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00:00 Fox News is absolutely disgusting. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, November 11th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 251. This is no agenda. Dodging the contrails from space and sea. And coming to you from the... Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center and Gitmo Nation West that's right in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I'm Adam Curry and at least I know where I am northern Silicon Valley and the garbage trucks are going by as I speak I'm John C DeVore I'm sorry about that I was like where am I oh wait a minute it's Thursday I must be at the watchtower all is well in

00:45 In the morning to you, John. In the morning to you and all the ships at sea. And all of our boots on the ground and to all veterans of these United States of Gitmo Nation. I'd like to pass off a hearty in the morning to y'all and of course to our human resources who are all charged up and ready to go just the way their government likes them in the chat room. Yeah. I got a legal brief, John. Well, before you go into anything complicated or actually serious, can we make a quick diversion? People always want to talk about food and wine and stuff like that. Sure. I hate it. I have just a quick little thing to discuss I want you to talk about. Have you ever had a persimmon? A persimmon? Yeah.

01:27 I have no idea what that is. I wanted to say something witty, yet I think I should stay away from it. What's a persimmon? A persimmon is an interesting fruit that I've somehow become addicted to eating. I never used to like these things. There's two kinds of persimmons. People should go check out the persimmon. For some reason all the farmers markets now have a ton of them. I don't know who planted all these trees or when they came around or why we even eat them. But persimmons are a funny apple-like product. That looks like it to me. There's two kinds of persimmons one's a bigger one that looks kind of like a like a like a dark orange pimento You know like which is a bell pepper without any crevices And those you have to let ripen and get soft and you can eat it with a spoon my wife has been eating those Since I married her she's always loved them. I never had much it didn't think much of them and then there's the hard little persimmon which looks like a tomato and

02:25 and you can eat it like an apple, it's got the same crunchiness. In fact I have a piece here, let me just bite into it. Oh, it's kind of, it is kind of crunchy. Yeah, kind of crunchy. I'm gonna have to get me some of these persimmons. Well they have a funny flavor, they're kind of bland but tasty. I can't explain it, but anyway. These little ones, they're pretty big, they look like a medium-sized tomato, only they're orange. So is it a sweet taste? It's mildly sweet, it's just unique, let's put it that way. And is it good for you? Probably.

03:06 It must have aspartame in it. If you're liking it, it's gotta have aspartame. It can't be good. Now a couple things I want to mention. I'm only promoting the persimmon for no apparent reason except for the fact that I'm stunned by the number of persimmons that are on the market right now and I'm sure if you go to the farmers market down in LA, you'll see a million of them. But anyway, I want to give some people some eating tips on these things. The hard little ones. There's a tip from the chat room that says never ever eat a green one. No, I don't. I've never seen a green one. Okay, well you shouldn't eat them. The bigger ones you let ripen so they get soft. The regular tomato orange size, tomato sized orange ones, you want to, you don't want to let them, once they get soft they rot. So they're going to be kind of crunchy. You cut off the top, they have, and by the way, they have wax all over them just like an apple, and you can polish these babies up on your shirt.

04:02 They're gorgeous. Cool. I mean it's beautiful fruit when you polish it. Okay, okay, okay, I get it. You cut the top off and then you slice it into like wedges or bite-sized peaches. You can eat it like an apple but for some reason if you eat it like an apple, just bite into it, it's annoying. It's something about it is, I don't know. I will get me some persimmons and I will give you my review on Sunday's show. How does that sound? Sounds good now. I want to mention one more thing before I change the topic, but the persimmon the ripe the kind that gets off the bigger persimmons Which is a got a Japanese name? I think is a Asian fruit Those make a pie that is this phenomenal. It's one of the best pies you'll ever have now I just want to mention one more little flow it

04:49 It just came off the market real quick. Maybe I'll talk about it on Sunday. Because you can't get them anymore, I should probably wait a year. They're called juju bees. And there's a trick to those things too. Well let's save that for Sunday's show, John. It's riveting. Anyway, go out and get your persimmon and check it out. Yeah, you can eat persimmon, which is family of the Richard Simmons. Legal brief that we received, John. You, of course, the persimmons are very important, but we received an actual legal brief from Gitmo Nation maple syrup, as it says here. Plaintiff Patrick B., hereby we, Gitmo Nation citizens of the New World Order, are pursuing a claim against John C. Dvorak, known as the Buzzkill, to establish respectful manners where and when it shall belong. John, this is a legal brief against you.

05:39 Hence, from now on, the defendant shall never ever kazoo while happy and distracted slaves are charging up their lives by singing to the sound of the Gitmo Nation National Anthem. The defendant may clip his nails, silk his teeth, or bathe his feet at low bubble speed, but in no way distract a tribute to the New World Order. I guess people took issue with your kazooing during our Gitmo Nation National Anthem on Sunday show. Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem. Come on, slaves! In the morning, Gitmo Nation, we are all charged up to be.

06:25 Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea. From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond. We are happy and distracted slaves in our jibber-jabber nation song. You're going to get more for sure for that. Hey, I didn't use the kazoo. No, that's true. You did not. It's very specific in that complaint. All right. Do we have any producers for today's program? We only have one and that came in by mail. So we're short producers this week, ladies and gentlemen, but we got the one and I'm going to mention her name.

07:19 A woman came to the rescue. Thank goodness. Who by the way wants to be a dame she's gonna start sending in more money. She sent in $262. Oh nice. And it's Carrie Schoen from Schwaben Deutschland. How do you spell that? S-C-H-O-N. Schoen. Oh I could do the umlaut actually. Schoen. Hold on. Schoen. Cool. A-R-R-I-E. I'll read her note. She's the executive producer. The executive producer for the show. The only one. There's nothing else today. Yes. Crap. We got a lot of other donations. Is that because we had so many technical difficulties that we sucked? I mean, is that why people say, oh, this show... I mean, it should be the opposite. People like, oh, those poor guys. They need more money. I run marathons and listen to the No Agenda on most of my training runs. Good use for the show, by the way.

08:12 I'm sending $10 for every mile of the last marathon I ran on in Munich, Munchen on 10-10-10. Consider it my first knighthood payment. From now on I plan to donate the same amount after each marathon. Wow, that's awesome. Until I can be a dame. Thanks you so much and keep up the good work, Carrie. Schoen. P.S. A shout out to my husband, Stefan. I call the poor guy German boy a lot now. Technically I think it's Germany boy. Oh that's what she put too, sorry Germany boy. She calls him Germany boy. Come here Germany boy. Now where did that come from?

08:51 Where'd that come from? That came from the cop. It came from you making fun of some poor Germany boy. Yeah, no, but no, wait a minute. It didn't come from me. It came from the cop in Arizona who pulled over the... Oh right, the Germany boy cop. And they called him Germany boy. Hey... You know what the speed limit is here Germany boy remember that that's what it was I think it should be a meme Germany Germany boy I'm sure the Germans all saw that video and got the biggest kick out. Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, Germany boy We knew the Americans were douchebags. This is bruising Via must go to us Germany boys lovely. Well, okay, at least we have one executive producer. We're always proud and

09:30 thankful for that then we will have some more people to thank in our donation segment but this of course shows that we're in trouble shows in trouble yeah well at least at the producer level section is gonna be extra long actually oh really okay wow so why what happened we got a lot of donations under $100 okay well all right it's tough times everyone's working along with us so Carrie shown Germany chick Hey Germany girl, we really thank you very much and I guess you'll be daming you very soon. Only three more... She runs? Yeah, three more marathons to go. Let's hope not. I'm sorry?

10:12 I said she blows out a knee. That's not a nice one. Hold on a second. No, I'm saying it's not gonna happen. Let me just offset that for a second. That's bad. You've got karma. All right. Kerry, that is an official credit. It also is valid in Gitmo Nation Deutschland. And if anyone questions that we will vouch for you just to get in touch with us and you can put that on your resume in your email signature and of course on IMDB and in fact You should you should put that on your on your running number. You know, you know, she has a number when she's running should say Executive producer episode two five one no agenda show. Yeah, why not? Yeah, absolutely Everybody else out there is something important for you to do. You have to go out you got to propagate our formula It is extremely simple formula is this we go out and

11:00 We hit people in the mouth. So we had like two major stories this week that everybody wants us to talk about obviously. Especially the one. I'd rather push off and you have to guess which one that is. I think the missile would be the one you want to talk about later.

11:37 Yeah, yeah, why do you want to talk because you think I'm gonna have some kooky theory yeah, uh-huh Hey, by the way, we had you know the funny thing is in my on my blog somebody sent in a Actually when we get to it. I'll go well. Why wouldn't we do it now? I mean you think I'm gonna story maybe I actually have maybe I actually have some really good information Yeah, like there was some test planned by some other organization or something and nobody knew about or but it was posted. Well, I think probably what we need to do because it's been all over the news obviously here in and Gitmo Nation West and I'm a little bit bummed because we were actually home when this took place. I was cooking and that's what I would have seen this easily because I see exactly out that direction and I would have seen this this missile fire off and sorry

12:33 I'm going to say before you go into it, I do have a clip of all the coverage kind of put into one. Oh really? Okay good because I have like three different clips. This was lifted from the Jon Stewart show. He interspersed it with this commentary. I just ran it all together. All right let me, oh that's short. Good. So this is for people who do not know. I'll just set up really quickly. If you hadn't heard about it in other parts of Gitmo Nation, There was a news report captured on video by a CBS local CBS News helicopter of what certainly looked like a rocket blasting off into space right off the coast of California right off the coast of Los Angeles actually. So here's some choice bits of coverage.

13:26 A missile was launched off the California coast last night. A mysterious missile launch. Is it a missile? What is it? Somebody knows. Whoever launched it has to know. We have called every military base in the western region. We have called NORAD. We have called NORTHCOM. We called the Coast Guard, the Navy, the Air Force, the Pentagon, local members of Congress. No one knew anything. We're just getting no answers from the government, from all these different departments of the government. It looks like it could be a launch from a submarine. A missile from a Navy ship. Could it be a secret test? Or a Russian sub? A commercial launch of a satellite. Optical illusion. A meteorite. A show of American force.

14:04 even a US intercontinental ballistic missile. Some kind of black ops or secret highly undercover operation. What else could do that? Yeah, that pretty much does sum it up doesn't it that's our news coverage here in the US of a so a couple things So first of all if this had happened in any other country if this had happened anywhere else in the world Everyone would have been going ape shit like you know oh my god It's the start of World War three and all the Pentagon had to do really is just say oh Yeah, satellite launch. That's all they had to say they didn't have to do anything else but the the denial and

14:45 and I think I do have to play this one clip. This is the clip that is probably propagated the most of people saying, well hold on a second, the local news station drummed up a former Secretary of Defense. The guy's probably close to 80 years old and they went out and interviewed him and they keep reusing clips of him. Actually, what I will do, I'll play the follow-up news clip So they get this guy on camera he says oh yeah that's a missile he said that actually it's not a tomahawk that that looks it looks like a inter ballistic intercontinental ballistic missile and the guy you know he was a former deputy secretary of defense you know it's kind of credible like yeah that pretty much looked like it was a missile to me and then they bring out this consultant

15:39 What's the guy's name? Bruce Sykes, I think the guy's name is. Let me see if I can find it. Well, it's all in the in the links, it's shown on noagendershow.com. And this guy says, oh no, no, no, no, it's a contrail. It's an optical illusion. It's actually a plane that is flying towards the camera and that's why it looks like it's going up into the air. Meanwhile, there's a plane flying right by. in the background with no contrail whatsoever and it's like black smoke, right? This is the first black smoke contrail up. It was ludicrous and by the way that's the meme that finally closed the story. That was a contrail? It's a contrail, yeah. So here's how it's more or less been kind of played off. An ordinary Southern California sunset punctured by something not only out of the ordinary but still a mystery. A large plume shoots into the sky. It looks like a missile launch but no US military or civilian aviation authorities are able to explain it.

16:34 These incredible pictures were captured Monday evening by a local news helicopter. The plume appears to have originated about 35 miles off the Los Angeles coastline. Now this is what's really interesting. I want you to pay attention to this because right from the get-go, because this helicopter basically shot this footage, Everyone says in all the reports, in the early reports, it was 35 miles off the coast just to the north of Catalina Island. Right? So just bear that in mind because I do have a reason for that. And the helicopter, the chopper pilot could clearly see the plume coming from the ocean.

17:11 You know, and he said, well it looks like it's right off to the north of Catalina Island. That's why this information is out there. Heading northwest over the Pacific. Experts speculated on a wide range of possibilities. It could be a test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile. So that's the former deputy secretary of defense. A guy who would kind of know what that looks like. It's clearly an airplane contrail. That's the consultant from the Pentagon. This is the guy from the Pentagon? He's a consultant. They drummed up some guy. I do have Pentagon guys, but I don't want to bore you. I want to get to the meat of it. It's an optical illusion that it looks like it's going up, whereas in reality, it's going towards the camera. You stupid slaves. What do you think? What do you think? Stupid? It's a contrail. Who's this guy kidding and how does he know he hasn't even seen it in person?

18:05 It's an optical illusion shut up shut up you stupid slave. What are you talking about clearly Vandenberg Air Force Base which often launches missile tests and satellites says it wasn't theirs the Federal Aviation Administration says it quote ran radar replays of a large area of West Los Angeles Approximately 5 p.m.. Pacific time on Monday by the way, and I have a couple links to this as well. There's a So they have, they had initially they showed video and you see two things in this video. You see a helicopter, another helicopter which I can't tell what it looks like a big one. I can't see what exactly what it is. The video is just not good enough. This is the KCBS news video and this helicopter is hovering an out of ground hover

18:47 and this missile, I mean I'm sure it's miles difference, but it looks like the contrail went past the helicopter and in the background you literally see an airplane flying by at a lower altitude with no contrail whatsoever. But then in pictures later, if you look at any of the pictures, you don't see the helicopter or the aircraft in the background. as is the interesting that that seems to have disappeared the radar replays did not reveal any fast-moving unidentified targets in that area we called the coast guard the navy the air force the pentagon local members of congress no one knew anything why the government is so badly organized that they're not able to get somebody out there to explain it and make the story goes a walk away i think that's a real story i mean it's absolutely insane

19:35 that for all of the money we're spending for all of these technically competent people uh... that they can't get somebody out there to explain what's incredibly obvious norad released a statement saying it is incredibly obvious that is a contrail incredibly obvious aware of the unexplained contrail reported off the coast of southern california yesterday evening at this time we are unable to provide specific details but we are working to determine the exact nature of this event we can confirm there is no indication of any threat to our nation and we will provide more information as it becomes available alright so i thought that was a pretty good wrap-up because they did bring in that uh... former secretary of defense i'd just want to play play the nightly news for a moment because now they get a a different guy on and he ends up by really really really pulls a boner on this one

20:23 uh... but actually ties it into something else which i do want to talk about so this is brian williams on nightly news the light in the skies last night the trail all the way up to the sky and the reports from eyewitnesses who said they saw a missile fired off the coast of california it's been a day-long mystery from the pacific all the way east of the pentagon and the question is are people telling the truth about what it was then there's the carnival cruise ship with thousands of people on board crippled and adrift with a massive u.s. aircraft carrier steaming toward it to render assistance we begin with those first two reports tonight and first to the pentagon in this rumor of a missile jim mccluchesky on duty there to start us off tonight so here's the pentagon john ministry of truth finally finally steps up to the plate they gotta talk to us and tell us what's going on jim good evening

21:13 Good evening, Brian. Good evening, Brian. I'm glad we had that little chat up front. Let me tell you what's happening, Brian. And just who do you believe is indeed the question tonight? More than a day later, U.S. military officials admit they don't know exactly what it was that lit up the skies near Los Angeles last night, but they say they're convinced it was not a missile. Uh-uh. It's a shocking image. Yeah. Let's stop that for a minute because obviously this, I don't know what the point of this is. Go check your Adam Curry Skype thing because this was posted on my blog by someone. which was taken off of another site, I don't know where. I don't even have to look, I know what it is, I'll get to that. Okay, we can talk about that, but first of all let me say a couple of things. One, you rarely see a contrail by itself and you mentioned there's another plane flying nearby without the contrail. And missile shots, anyone that lives on the West Coast, these guys in the Pentagon probably have never seen a missile firing.

22:10 But anyone who lives on the west coast, we have an operation called Vandenberg Air Force Base, which is very similar to Cape Canaveral, Cape Kennedy. And they shoot missiles off every once in a while. In fact, that everybody gets to see. It's not like a once in a lifetime thing. I've seen about five of them. I mean, you'll see them from the Bay Area, you'll see them from Los Angeles, you'll see them from all over. This one obviously was not from there, this was done from, well, it's the Cesar's Ocean. Thirty-five miles off the coast. It was a Navy operation apparently. But anyway, the point is that the contrail you get from a, it's not really a contrail that you get from a missile, it's a smoke trail.

22:47 and they look different, they act different in the wind, it's a completely different animal. They're very distinctive looking and when you see one you say, oh, looks like somebody launched a missile. There was one maybe about, I think, three or four months ago I saw and it was just a mess. I mean, it makes a mess and it reflects a lot of light and it looks just, when I saw that picture, I looked at it and said, that's a missile launch, it's what they look like. It was of course a missile launch. And yes, the information you sent me I have not been able to verify but I have more information on that. Let's just finish up this nightly news report and then we can bring it all home. This video from a KCBS traffic copter shot at sunset yesterday shows what looks like a missile soaring into the sky dangerously close to the coastline just off Los Angeles.

23:32 At one point, the unidentified... Dean, of course, there's all kinds of memes and stuff. What bullcrap! Listen, listen. ...flying objects streaks through the clouds, spewing black smoke and what appears to be flames shooting out the back. Which, by the way, was quite clearly smoke and flames. John, you saw it, right? It's smoke and flames. Yeah, but it wasn't black smoke. No, but it was it was like rocket smoke. Yeah, it was rocket smoke and it was a full yeah, that's what it was. That's what a missile looks like when it goes off. We've seen them a million times out here. It was a very common. All right. The video sent the US military into a frenzy. For hours, frantic heated phone calls flew between the Pentagon and NORAD trying to figure out just what was this mystery object.

24:14 Pentagon officials say the video is the only indication of a possible missile shot. The Navy and Air Force strongly deny they had fired a missile, and using satellite imagery, North Com and NORAD found no evidence of a missile launch. The video appears to show the missile flying right through the middle of the heavy air traffic area around around Los Angeles. But FAA officials tell NBC News they reviewed air traffic control tapes and those radar replays did not reveal a fast-moving object in that area. And at the same time, there were no reports of any unusual sightings from pilots. So then, what is it? Military missile expert John Pike believes it's an airplane, likely a jumbo jet. And the appearance of it streaking upward is an optical illusion.

24:59 here it's coming out of the sunset it looks like it's being lost. I think this guy is looking for a job I think what happened is there is this the same guy that said I can't believe the Pentagon has no data you know we're wasting all this money and no one can come out and talk to us I think this guy is like holy crap this is this is my ticket home it's like I got to get out there I gotta got on tape TV and say something that the Pentagon will love so I'll get some more gigs I mean this guy it could truly. Can I mention one more thing? Yeah. The, uh, these guys come up with this bogus thing that it was a Jumbo Jet 747. But they didn't have any other evidence of anything else. So they have these things, so apparently the area is so well covered with radar and NORAD and all the rest of it. Okay, which flight was it? Of course, of course it's bullshit. It's almost done here and then I'll get to my point. ...shallow water, but it's not... Pike and military officials also point out the object is moving too slowly and changes course like an airplane, not a missile.

25:55 The Pentagon tonight says that they insist or believe that it was an airplane and insist that whatever happened did not pose a threat to the U.S. But a senior military official tells us if we're not exactly sure what it was, how can we be so sure about no threat to the U.S.? And you know, this is just the kind of ambiguity, Brian, that will feed conspiracy theories forever. Yeah! That's it. Woo! Conspiracy theories. Okay, two things. Now what you just Skyped me, I do not believe is true. Because the first thing I did as an aviator is I said, okay, where's the no-tam? If they were shooting something into the sky, then they have to have what's called a no-tam, a notice to airmen. Because it's kind of dangerous to be flying around one of the busiest airports in the country if you got shit shooting up into the sky. So you posted, or someone I guess posted in the comments on your blog a notice to airmen

26:52 from the the eighth which says the following restrictions are required due to naval air warfare center weapons division activation of w537 I looked for a no tam didn't see one so for this one to show up all of a sudden is questionable I'm not quite sure what this means so I'll have to look into that what I do have is And thank goodness we have producers nationwide and one of our people on the inside of NASA. Which by the way, both Dvorak.org and Curry.com are blocked on NASA's network. I'd like to inform you. I think we're way too questionable. So he sends me a link to the national... You're blocked? Yes, I'm blocked and you're blocked inside NASA. Really? Yeah, oh yeah, of course.

27:44 Just like for airmen there are notices to the ships at sea and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency posts warning messages and this is absolutely phenomenal and it's in the show notes at noagendashow.com it's the nav area warnings Here it is, Eastern North Pacific California and this is from NGA.mil missiles intermittent missile firing operations from zero zero zero one Zulu to two three five nine Zulu daily Monday through Sunday in the Naval Air Warfare Center sea range the majority of missile firings take place fourteen hundred Zulu to twenty three fifty nine Zulu and zero zero zero one Zulu to zero two zero zero Zulu daily Monday through Friday in the area bound by and then the area

28:44 34 North 119 West and it actually is they give like seven different areas all the way down to from 32 to 35 North from 118 to 123 West now if you go to Google Google Earth You hover your mouse right over Catalina Island where this thing emanated from you will see that that is approximately 33 north 119 west so this is exactly the area where they Were they warned they put out a warning and here item number two Vessels may be required to alter course within the above area due to firing operations and are requested to contact a

29:26 uh... plead control on five oh five oh eight one point five megahertz before entering the above boundaries maintain continuous guard while within the range so they actually did put out a warning message that they'll be shooting off missiles in this time period in that exact area so you know enough with the bullshit already i think one of two things could have happened first of all if there's a and i have the links here in the show notes there were known War games going on or war games. I should say practice sessions by the way, and this is not I'm not Discriminating or saying anything about this in this context, but interesting to point out that this is the first naval war game operation, what do you call it John like exercise exercise is what the word is and

30:20 That includes women on submarines. I just want to point that out So maybe there was some distraction going on and maybe just one got away from them Which is actually what my insider at NASA is saying is that dude that was totally a rocket and I think one just got away from them However, there's another story and this is the crackpot theory, but there's another story in the news which has been bothering me Which is this cruise ship off the coast of Mexico to this Carnival cruise ship which all of a sudden loses all power and right? The thing is dead in the water, it's got four and a half thousand people on board and immediately they're sending aircraft carriers out to this thing. They've got the army involved, the navy involved, the air force involved and because of some fire this thing has no power, the toilets won't flush yet now that it's being tugged, by the way conveniently to San Diego

31:15 Right, I mean favorite place. Yeah, which is one big military nest I mean, why didn't they so first it was all we're gonna talk We're gonna talk it back to the port in Mexico, which is where everyone departed from it was it they left from Mexico That's where everyone's car is it's where their flights are back from it's where everyone expect, you know Everyone came boarded the ship there Why are they tugging it back to San Diego because they have to debrief everybody and tell them the real story to say Exactly. Everyone needs to know what to say because here's what, it's a theory John, it's a crackpot theory but it's out there. The theory is that there was an EMP strike from a Chinese submarine which of course this was 200 miles off coast and the EMP disabled this ship which I think there's some validity to the thought because and by the way EMP is electromagnetic pulse. Well before you go on,

32:10 I want to mention an anomaly that you played a second ago which kind of caught me a little bit but now that you mentioned this... No, continuously these two stories are being mentioned together. Yeah, they're both being... Brian Williams on NBC which is a front for somebody because NBC... we know that they're connected to the government somehow because of all the promotion they do on MSNBC. They connected the two stories and I'm gonna... it could be me. But that either is code or something else because those two stories are not connected. No, but they're being connected everywhere and here's the interesting thing. Go look at every single story about this cruise ship

32:52 And the only thing they say is, oh there was a fire. How can a small fire, and by the way now that this thing is in within cell phone range, I don't have a clip of it, but literally people are calling up and saying, well they announced on the ship there's no fire, nothing to worry about. Yet the news we're receiving is, oh there was a fire. Is a fire disabled all electricity on board of this ship? I don't think so. I don't know anything about... And the engine. I mean... I don't know anything about big ships. I know nothing about them. But that seems a little crazy to me that a fire in the engine room, and I don't see any pictures of smoke billowing out of this thing. I don't see, there's no one like dead from a huge fire that disabled this. I mean this cruise ship has like five movie theaters. It's got casinos. I mean you can't be relying on... And they made a point of saying that the casinos would be out of operation.

33:43 and the stoves weren't working, nothing was working on the ship, nothing. So in 2007, I'm just gonna go back here in time, there was a US naval exercise in the Pacific, I don't know if you remember this John, all of a sudden a Chinese sub popped out, do you remember this? No, I don't. I might if you keep going. They had like a dozen warships. I got a picture of it here. I put that in the show notes as well for you. It went back to the 2007 news article. All of a sudden a Chinese ship just popped up and went like, hey how you doing? Just showing you guys that we're here. You didn't notice us get in did you? So here's what could have possibly happened. Possibly. Now first of all our president is out of the country. If you want to mess with America now is the time to do it.

34:33 conveniently. So the Chinese have stated publicly, publicly I got that link in the in the show notes as well in fact I'll give you the exact quote and remember we have the the G20 summit coming up here the Chinese said hey you better not be devaluing your currency because this could inflate asset bubbles and it's basically screwing us, the Chinese, the people of the Republic here, because we lent you all that money and now you're basically diluting it. And then of course we just had this $600 billion monetization of our debt which essentially, correct me if I'm wrong, dilutes the Chinese investment. Is that correct? Oh yeah. Big time. So it's possible

35:23 And it's and because of the code that I'm that I'm feeling out there just like you John it's possible the Chinese said oh Really, you think that's funny watch this they they they blow up an EMP 11 hours before this mystery missile contrail goes into the sky and They fire off the MP, it disables a cruise ship with American citizens, completely disables it. It fries all of the electronics on board, the thing can't move anymore, it's dead in the water. Then as some kind of like oh, yeah, well we got that stuff too although It was delayed by 11 hours But still close enough we fire off some rocket just to show that we got it and we can do it And you know the thing probably never exploded anywhere You don't know that it may have gone into outer space and taken out one of their satellites with an EMP But at least it was going in the right direction Going west is the right direction to go towards China. Yeah, I

36:21 And I think that there is some actual posturing going on and we're not being told the true story. Well, we're obviously being bull-crapped by the government and by the Pentagon because there's just too much evidence to the contrary. And if anybody, as you saw, there was a jet flying right next to the other jet with no contrail. And if anybody thinks that was... And to try to sell the public on the fact that this rocket launch, apparent rocket launch, like I said, most people on the West Coast have seen them. They know what they look like. That's why we saw it, called it a rocket launch. is a contrail for some mysterious 747 that they can't even identify. It's unconscionable that our government has to do this. I mean we're getting bullcrap everywhere we turn and now we can't even get our own podcast into NASA, which really irks me. So here's a question for you John, if people had their cell phones

37:16 Because you know now they're saying people are People cell phones are working if your cell phone was off and your cell phone was in your cabin and an EMP Fired off when it fry your cell phone or not even if it was off It should okay, so that may blow the theory there, but who knows what these cell phone calls are I mean I'm really I got to do some research here because now all of a sudden you show me this no tam I couldn't find a no tam earlier and But the NOTAM apparently backs up the navigational warning, the ship warning. I just don't know what these areas are. I had to have to look at a sectional chart to know what W537 is. But one way or the other we're being bullshit. Something is definitely... And I just... The fact that no one is saying what happened on that ship.

38:10 How, where's the in-depth story about, well, you know, go to Carnival Cruise Lines, they got more ships. So what exactly happened? Where's the in-depth reporting on what happened and how this fire could disable an entire ship? I have to look into the susceptibility of cell phones to EMPs. Well, if they're off. I don't know if it makes any difference. You'd think that it would fry no matter what, right? You know, the circuitry, I don't know. It depends on how things are built nowadays. I mean, they've made things in such a way that you'd think that even off...

38:47 because it's an induction process. Well if your battery is in then of course the thing is still kind of charged and is on and... Well even if the battery is not in let's just assume that the circuit itself should pick up the EMP as an induction. And by the way I've only heard one cell phone call from people who are using their cell phones you know this could be a case of just like people on airplanes were using their cell phones to call on 9-11 I mean I don't know There is something messed up going on. We'll follow up on Sunday. Okay, so producers out there really appreciate all the information you're sending and keep it coming, particularly the insiders. And so when I get this email from the guy at NASA

39:33 who says by the way there's a lot more interesting stuff going on particularly with the moon. My favorite topic. We'll save that for the second half of the show. No, no, I don't have anything else. I'm just warped by the fact anyway. So let's move on to the next story. Yes, let's do that. Which is, what story do you think is the next story? Well, the only other story that matters of course is the TSA enhanced pat-downs. Play the, now here's something I want to bring up on this topic. Fox News is absolutely disgusting. Oh, yeah, regarding us. Is this the is this the the O'Reilly clip? O'Reilly has these two female lawyers that come on one of them's the next prosecutor and they're so and O'Reilly himself These people on Fox are so cavalier in a very arrogant way concerning individual rights

40:30 First of all, they bitch and moan about, oh, you know, that's bomber and all these other things. Let me mention something to all these boneheads that work for Fox. These guys all came from out of the country that tried to blow up these planes and they were unsuccessful. The liquid bombers out of England, the shoe bomber was out of France, the underwear bombers out of Amsterdam. These are not people flying from San Francisco to Seattle. We don't need these kinds of checks here. It's bogus. And the fact that O'Reilly, who's worth millions of dollars, probably flies in private jets all the time with these two, who I would have to say,

41:07 shit heads. Wait a minute, wait a minute. They are hot. They're not bad looking. There's no doubt. All the women on Fox are cute. That's what's so cool about it. By the way, the CNBC women are better looking. No, no. Well, but these Fox chicks are all blonde and CNBC are all brunettes. Rwanda Guilfoyle is a brunette. She's an ex-prosecutor supposedly and she's an asshole. And listen to this clip. options. You can't fly. Well, yeah, and really stop complaining. People should understand that this is a threat to our national security. We all know why it's instituted. But you put the airline and the federal government has a right to say if you're not going to do either or

41:48 you're not going. Absolutely because they have provided a less intrusive means for you to go through and you do the pat down. The pat down is pretty intrusive though. The pilot punched out some guy because the guy was grabbing him someplace I guess. Right. So I don't know. I think I'd go for the machine rather than the pat down. I don't want to be pat down by Lenny. I'm sorry. I agree. And at a certain point, let him see. You'd rather have the x-ray just to show you have a... Vinny or Lenny pat me down. Why not? Let him see. By the way, I love how, because of course I saw this clip and I actually pulled it myself, how she just keeps talking even though O'Reilly's talking, the other babe is talking, and the brunette just keeps going, she just doesn't stop.

42:31 Well, come on. I just don't want them patting me down. All right, well then go through the machine. I will. I don't have any problem with the machine. There's no Fourth Amendment right here. Fourth Amendment is a right against unreasonable search and seizure. The Supreme Court has ruled on this. They're going to take that down or the X-ray. It's either you go through the body scan, you get patted. Or you hitchhike. Right. And it's a small sacrifice to make. Let him see you rather than having a plane. That's easy for you to say, Gilford. I have nothing to hide. I have nothing. If I ever see this woman, I will go up to her. I say, Heard you have nothing to hide. I'm gonna feel your breasts come here, baby. Let me touch you yeah, take them off Take them off now you got nothing to hide nothing to hide take them off So this is clearly when I saw this I just had to get this out of my system when I saw this I was like oh my god Fox is so on board with

43:20 the scanning machines, the whole thing is being blown up. We're actually contributing to this to get people to say, and I have clip after clip, to get people to say, yeah I don't want to get felt up, I'll go through the machine. That's what this is about. Yeah, no, I'm not going to disagree with that. And here's the other one that's interesting, is the blonde, whose name I can never remember. She says it's no Fourth Amendment issue. What? She says there's no Fourth Amendment issue. She says, well besides that, yeah, well she says that but then she backs it up with the Supreme Court has already decided. With what case regarding these machines and pat-downs? There's no Supreme Court case. That's a blatant lie. I'd like to find out what her sources of that and what case there was. I have no idea.

44:08 But regardless, they just put these machines in. They just started this new process of the pat down. What Supreme Court case? She's a, I just can't believe these two women and the whole Fox network. It's disgusting. Yep. Oh yeah, it is. And I have a couple clips that I have to share because this is now... Fox was really, really blatant. And for O'Reilly to say, I don't want some douchebag feeling me up. I'll go through the machine. Lenny. I don't know why I said Lenny. There must be some derogatory comment in there as well.

44:44 I don't want to be felt up. I'll go through the machine and every single news story every single one is about You know you might as well just go through the machine and every person is saying Yeah, you know I'll go through the machine now I had I caught one guy on Fox who who's a weekend guy this judge in the Palo Tano No relation right who was on that morning showing I damn it lost the clip. I don't know where it is I of him on you that crazy fox in the morning fox friends whatever it is with dana perino who's a real interesting woman who's also on board with this crap and and and they always have males on that show that are that are dimwits and this guy was like a giggly little girl

45:28 can't be that i gotta go to the machine i can meanwhile napolitano is saying hey this is a this is a complete violation of the fourth amendment he says this is bullcrap we should be resisting this and these two other idiots are just getting going on especially the i mean what it's just uh... okay so i'm from the chat room i'm getting uh... apparently this is where her her information comes from implied consent and the fourth amendment. Apparently implied consent, I'm reading from Wikipedia now, is a form of consent not expressly granted by a person but rather inferred from a person's actions and the facts and circumstances of a particular situation. And this apparently is what went through the Supreme Court. So we'll have to look into implied consent, which sounds like bullshit to me.

46:24 But, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me that the Fourth Amendment has just been struck out of the record by something like this. Now, personal story, Mickey and I flew to San Francisco to do this benefit thing over the weekend. No naked body scanners at Burbank Airport. However, on the way back, Oakland, yes, they are all there. They've got five of them, five naked body scanners. One line was open and it was fascinating. So, you know, and by the way, we made sure that we went through the magnometer line. It was fascinating to see the following two things. First of all, the amount of people and it's just sad to see them.

47:07 who went into that line, you know, not prompted, just like, you know, just went voluntarily and they're going in that line and then, you know, they're getting radiated. Now we went, you're getting a shot of radiation right on the skin concentrated actually if you read the USCF report. Yeah, and I have a report on that too. Okay. And, but then we went through the magnometer line through the metal detector And it was so sad, John, because we went through and of course, and Mickey said, hey, you know, if I get searched and someone touches my vagina, I'm going to hit him. I'm like, oh Jesus. Because she will. No, no, no, she will. She will. I know she will. She probably would. Oh no, she would. And I'm like, oh. It probably decked the guy. I'm like, oh my God. I said, baby, you know, like, I'm bad enough. But, you know, like, you got to really, really chillax here, you know. And I think I even said chillax. I don't know why, but I said that. Yeah, that's bad. That's really bad. I was flustered. And like, so luckily there was no feeling up. But then this guy went in a wheelchair

48:08 Went through the metal detectors you have to go through in your wheelchair and this guy he had like You know I had like artificial legs and all kinds of stuff and as we're putting on the event Yeah, and as we're putting our stuff back together and putting our shoes on and everything. We're almost in tears watching a TSA sexual deviant feeling this guy up and I'm not kidding. We actually stood and watched for an extra five minutes. The guy's in the fucking wheelchair and he's like, you know, it's like in his crotch and under his armpits and everything like, Oh my God, it was just, it was sad. Absolutely sad to see this happen. Like what do you expect? This guy is, what is he going to do?

48:51 Anyway, so I've got a couple of ministry of first the ministry of truth by the way I'm gonna give you the argument that I got once when I brought this up in the early days after 9-11 yeah You want to hear it now? Mm-hmm. Yeah Well, in the early days after 9-11, they were patting everybody down as they came through the lines. But they had this system in place and if you flew southwest, you'd get a little extra message on your boarding pass and that pushed you into a separate line where you were randomly, because they didn't want to do any kind of profiling, they just randomly picked people. And so they had old ladies and cheerleaders and all these guys. Well, meanwhile, you know, these obvious terrorists, if there is such a thing, we're just, you know, floating through and, uh, and me and they, they was a situation and I ran into one of those rules. I brought her, but that's the way that we do it because of this, that,

49:45 There's some guy in a wheel some old man in a wheelchair with his old wife who was pushing him And they pushed him and as soon as they saw him they made him go into the extra line and they did the same thing to this guy and I said and I said to him I asked him why do you this guy's in a wheelchair? What's he gonna do? Just he's even more suspicious because he's got nothing to live for. Oh my god Really? Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, that's outrageous. It's outrageous Okay, so again We're actually propagating the meme here because everyone's focused and it's unfortunate because this is exactly what's gonna happen but I need to play a couple of clips from the Ministry of Truth.

50:24 What we're propagating here is you don't want to get felt up by these sexual deviants, so you might as well go through the naked body scanner. It's totally detracting from the nakedness and the radiation. Here's just a couple clips. Screening at the airport is getting even more up close and personal. You can still choose between the full body scanner and a pat down, but starting today, TSA officials will be patting you down with the palms of their hands instead of the backs. Now this includes for the first time and you can watch this video in the show notes, noagendershow.com it includes a TSA official showing how the pat down works on a female body on a mannequin but he's actually she's actually feeling the breast of this mannequin it's crazy. McKay Allen live at the airport tonight with what passengers are saying.

51:10 And we should note it is just a coincidence that the day they begin these new more stringent pat-downs is also the day we're hearing about these new terror scares involving cargo planes. So I just want to, this of course is a report that dates back to the... to the printer toner cartridges and right there the Ministry of Truth pre-produced package says, oh it's just a coincidence. It's just a coincidence that this is happening. Just a coincidence that it's happening on the same day. I think not! The other thing that we should know, we talked to a lot of passengers out here today and very few had actually heard about these new more friendly pat-down procedures. I'm not pleased that they're changing to a more invasive kind of a pat-down. The airport pat-down. It used to be a minor inconvenience. The way you used to pat down the passenger in the airport... This is the guy from the TSA. ...was with the back of the hands.

52:01 Take the back of the hands and you rub it down this way. Now we've switched it to the front of the hand. Yeah, because we need to feel it. And we go down the body and to the breast portion. The breast portion, John. To the breast portion of the body. The breast portion? The breast portion of, yeah. What is it? What is it like a chicken or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The breast portion. That's right. It's the breast portion near the crotchal area. As a female passenger, you're going to see if there is anything in a bra. Your choice is now this. Yeah, the exploding boobs, the ones we've been warned about. Either go through a body scanner that essentially takes a silhouette of you under your clothes. Here's how it works. I'm gonna just roll that back. Yeah, I see it coming. Yeah, I just want to roll it back. So here's the choice. Hey, slave. Here's your choice, slave. That essentially takes a silhouette of you under your clothes.

52:44 or go through a metal detector and get an up close and personal pat down, palms, fingers and all. Up close and personal, palms, fingers and all. You don't want that do you? You don't want to be felt up. That's really scary. This is the whole thing they're doing. You don't want to be felt up do you? You don't want to have people touching you. No, go through the body scanner. It's safe. The more times the metal detector beeps, the more intimate the pat down intimate becomes. It's kind of uncomfortable. I am not comfortable with it. I'm not necessarily thrilled about a pat down. It's a little personal. Those of us that wear underwire bras. TSA says pat-downs are one important tool to help them detect hidden and dangerous items such as explosives. And even though the passengers we talked to at Spokane International don't like the idea, they say they understand. I would not be very comfortable, but I would be less comfortable if I got on the plane and then had to get off because of security reasons.

53:43 And the other change in TSA procedure is something called secure flight. So there's more bullshit there. So this is what is happening now and we have information from insiders, we have information from people whose neighbors are TSA agents. I mean I've got tons and tons of listings. The whole idea is to get you to subject to the body scanner. Now the one that I found most interesting is that the flight attendants, and let's face it, some flight attendants are still kind of hot. I mean it's diminished over the years. But the flight attendants, they really don't want this. And they're being asked in uniform to be felt up and they're taking action. And when pilots and all the pilot associations and unions are saying, hey we're not going to do this, we're not going through this. So the pilots are smart. They're talking about the scanners.

54:40 But it's being covered up by this whole pat-down thing. Now the flight attendants, just think about it, you're a flight attendant and some of them are pretty hot. You're going to be felt up by these douchebags at TSA. Over those full body scanners over the airport, US Airways pilot union is telling members not to go through them because of radiation exposure being a health risk. The union president said, so that's the story but now we're going to cover it up with the reason why you should go through. As pilots should avoid checkpoints using the back scatter machines or opt for a full body pat down instead. But those pat downs are causing problems too. ABC 15's Christopher Sign explains the hassle passed on to you when flight crews choose to skip the scanners. It's a weight a valley man says ruined his travel plans.

55:36 Les Johnson missed his connecting flight after he says a flight attendant didn't want to deal with the new pat-down process. We're getting calls daily about people's experiences. Deborah Volpe says the local chapter of the flight attendants union is being flooded with complaints. They actually make contact with the genital area. She makes it clear security is the priority. Our officers was used as murder weapons. The union is telling flight attendants who opt out of the body scanner to ask for a private screening with a witness. We don't want them in uniform. going through this enhanced screening where their private areas are being touched in public. Thing is, those private screenings could delay your flight. If it happens to delay things, it happens to delay things. She says the intention is not to cause delays and now some flight attendants are planning to sue. They have contacted the ACLU. We don't know. Somebody may have had an experience with a sexual assault and it's going to dredge up some really bad memories.

56:38 So what does the union want? Something called a crew pass allowing them to bypass security because they already undergo background checks and fly so often. Now the union says it is not against security, just the latest security moves that have been implemented. Reporting live at Sky Harbor, Christopher Sign, ABC. So we've kind of beat this to death but I... Yeah but let me mention something else that people keep mentioning on the blog and elsewhere. the pilot is flying the plane. I know if the guy's gonna do anything he's going to kill you anyway it's easy he doesn't need a bomb. He can drop it into the drink I mean there's a million things so why check him at all he's like it's hopeless. He doesn't need a bomb or that's no kind of it's security it's the security theater and it's done to humiliate people. So you know we could sit here and listen to all six and a half minutes of the NPR our national treasure report which we won't do because they actually bring up the radiation

57:34 question of the naked body scanners but again in that report and please I encourage everyone to listen to it the whole idea of these enhanced pat-downs is to get you to subject to the scanners because these scanners will be everywhere in your life everywhere they're going it's not just the airport when you when you go on your groovy high-speed train you're gonna put up with anything using these things to get to the grocery store so here's what I recommend First of all, you have to opt out and optout.com there's a national opt-out day which is being organized from November 24th. It's going to screw everything up but I have to say I agree with it.

58:16 opt out of it. I don't think that many people will take advantage of it. Well it's gaining some traction I'm seeing it all over the news now so I think that but again the whole it's being used against us though it's being said oh well you know this this enhanced pat-down is being used to make us subject to going through the naked body scanner But here's what I recommend. And it hit me actually when I was thinking about what to do traveling back from Oakland to Burbank. Should I have to go through an enhanced pat-down? So first of all, you opt out. You do not want to go through this scanner. We have enough documentation, even the NPR report. And of course we have the letter from the University of California, San Francisco, who were saying, hey, wait a minute, this shit is dangerous. It is not good. If you opt out,

59:04 and the TSA agent gives you an enhanced pat-down. The great thing about it is, and actually the idea came to me again when I heard this that the flight attendants want witnesses. If someone touches your groin in an enhanced pat-down and there's no other witness around, that is your immediately say, I want your supervisor, you held your hand there longer than necessary. That's all you have to say because no one can prove it differently. You say look this guy put his hand on my crotch for three seconds I felt it he was feeling he was kept it was there too long and then we can have the conversation and it is a legal conversation we have to have and that'll do away with it eventually how long is enough?

59:52 for someone to be able to feel you up. What it at what point is touching your groin sexual harassment or molestation? And I think every single person has to do this. It's a pain in the ass, but you got to immediately ask for the supervisor, register a complaint, and then we have to sue them. You have we have to do this. This this if we if we let this pass, we're screwed forever. Yeah, I agree. I thought you were going to go through the machine with a dosimeter. Well, I'd like to... so a couple of producers actually suggested this that they were going to put a dosimeter on and then go through and measure it. Can we get dosimeters? Yeah, they're available. You can get them online. Are these expensive devices? No, there's not a device really. It's a piece of film. Right. So it's just a cheap like button thing, right?

1:00:43 Pretty much. And it'll measure radiation? You have to have it, I think you have to go through somebody's system. In other words, you could wear the thing and then have it checked and see what the final, you know, what the resultant exposure was. It may be next to nothing, it may be too much, who knows. Nobody knows, that's the problem. So it actually kind of bums me out that it's gotten to the point where We're all screaming bloody murder about the enhanced pat-downs, but it's actually playing right into their cards. Yeah, no, they got it figured out. They also, the only reason they cranked up the enhanced pat-downs so they can get people to go through the machine so you have a naked picture of everybody. I'm telling you, the first, the thing that's going to, although I can see how this is going to play out, there's going to be some celebrity

1:01:30 that is going to end up going through the machine. We already predicted this. Yeah, and it's going to end up on the internet. They're going to make a big stink about it and then they're just going to fire some one person and say it'll never happen again and then everyone will just go back to work. Right. I mean that's the problem that we're experiencing in this country. This passivity toward government intrusion. I mean this is, and what's really bad about it is that the conservatives, and I'm going to point at Fox News, are part of this problem. They're not helping. No, well yeah they are. They're helping their overlords. Yeah, that's who they're helping. I mean, you know, any conservative, I mean, I would put George Bush, who was big in the news this week, into this group. I mean, he didn't help anybody. He added, we have no habeas corpus and I don't see that Obama's done anything about that. They can wiretap anybody they want. I don't see Obama doing anything about that. Of course not. It's just ridiculous.

1:02:28 all you know and all these conservatives are all you know we gotta be fiscally conservative and we want less government in our lives and we have twenty times more government in their lives before George Bush ever showed up on the scene. Oh it's because of security concerns. Oh you know these guys are trying to kill us. These terrorists want you dead. How many people have they killed in the last ten years? I mean they killed a bunch of people with the 9-11 attacks and since then there's been 85 million flights a year almost ten years. almost a billion air flights with not another incident like this in the United States. This is all about keep cranking up the security to protect us from what the statistical possibility that we get killed is so minor.

1:03:10 It's not even lightning, getting hit by lightning during the summer is more possible. So I just want to read this note from one of our producers who is going anonymous. His neighbor is a TSA agent. She, by the way, is not happy with all of this and she will be getting us a copy of the latest handbook. I just, I gotta read a couple pieces from this email he sent us. He says the TSA has not published the latest handbook online that covers the enhanced pat-downs. He says often TSA pushes down unwritten changes in policy and procedure long before it's ever seen in print. So here's the standard for security. That means the standard which is, has to be met largely by the local airport authority. Officers yell opt out because they're supposed to do it at any time there's a so-called red flag event.

1:03:56 and our producer asked if there's a list of red flags we could get. All TSA officers are expected to demonstrate command presence. Okay? Now this is, of course, you know, this is all military mumbo-jumbo, so you have to have like a command presence. You have to be dominating. Dosimeters were worn as an experiment, according to his neighbor. The results of the experiment were never published by the TSA agents because, of course, they're all going to die of cancer. All of them. And then they do have some behavioral detection officers who stand around whispering into their collars to talk about people who perhaps look suspicious, which by the way is probably the best profiling. Profiling is probably the best thing to do.

1:04:41 But this is again an entire push to get you to subject to the body scanner because they're going to be everywhere. Everywhere you go, you're going to be walking through radiation. Everywhere you go. Now, give her a story because that letter talks about some of the downsides to the TSA people. outraged by the violation of civil rights expecting the enhanced pat-down will push the public over the edge she feels violated because she's had passengers actually enjoying being touched and talk dirty to her during the process she wants a new job she's going to blah blah blah she also says she's confused that everything is published online even al-qaeda has all their stuff yeah she's been indoctrinated

1:05:29 The TSA, okay so anyway yeah people apparently talk dirty to her. Well of course they do. Of course they do. So someone else pointed out that the entire TSA and all of these naked body scanners were a part of the American Recovery Act and reinvestment was it the American Recovery Reinvestment Act. In other words, the bailout is a jobs program people. This whole thing is a jobs program. If you wonder where those jobs came from that we created or saved, it's the TSA. There's like 300,000 people in the TSA now. This was your money meant to save your economy and now you're being felt up for it to get you to subject to go through the naked body scanner. So to even opt out day is actually not a good idea because it's not just about opting out.

1:06:21 It's... it... I just minimize your flight, your travel. I can't fly anymore. I just can't fly anymore. But if you think that this is the end of it, if you think that this is going to end with air travel, you're crazy. It's going to be everywhere. So anyway, looks like Eric the Shill has found a dosimeter on Amazon. And we have another link here, stanforddustcemetry.com So we can get these badges and I think we need to start our own movement here which is separate from the opt-out movement and we need to show that there is a ton of radiation coming off of these machines. That's what's really important. That's what's being, we're being played people. We're being played.

1:07:08 Yeah, you know, not only that, but the TSA people, I mean, besides that machine, which doesn't look like the kind of leaded glass and it doesn't seem like it has a really good seal. It just doesn't. It looks like it's leaking. That machine has got to be leaking x-rays even when you're not in the machine. So meaning when you're standing in line being patted down, you're probably being radiated. And then the suitcase scanner, That thing looks like a piece of crap, I'm telling you. It doesn't look like any kind of a high-tech unit. And that thing's got x-rays flying all over the place and then they push a button to get enhanced more x-rays so they can really plow through stuff. Now some guy's sitting back there without a lead underwear on. I mean, I don't know, you know, and they won't let him wear dosimeters? Are you kidding me? Yeah.

1:07:56 This is the real Gitmo Nation people. This is the real deal. This is not a drill. They want you to go through naked scanners everywhere. And when I see those two women from Fox, there's a good chance I'll bump into them somewhere. I'm gonna say, take your clothes off. You got nothing to hide. I wanna see you. I wanna feel you. Should we get off this thing? We will be unfortunately we'll be beating unfortunate. Unfortunately. Yeah, we will be Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

1:08:41 And I want to start off by mentioning that if anybody doesn't get mentioned or if we left somebody out or we had the wrong amount or we forgot to do something, we do have a customer service email address. Oh, we do. Shill. Shill. Shill at noagendadonation.com. Isn't it noagendanation.com? No. Oh, noagendanation.com. I'm sorry. What am I thinking? Okay, so we have customer service? Yeah, shillennoagendanation.com and also you should check out No Agenda Nation. We're trying to beef it up so it's got everybody who's ever donated where they live. Not their address or a name or anything but eventually if you have a small business and you want it plugged, it'll be on the map. Oh, very cool. Very cool. Yeah. Armin Breuer from Vienna, Austria.

1:09:31 $100 likes to show you need some karma though. Okay, you've got karma Happy to send you some karma my friend not a problem And then we have this one is that knives though now people you can always complain about my pronunciations of Dutch names But this guy's first name, I challenge anybody out there except Adam, to pronounce a name that is spelled W-J-B. I have a feeling we're missing a vowel. Adlin, I'd like to buy one if possible. So there's no name W-J-B? I have a feeling something messed up in this spreadsheet. It might have been an I-J, which would be vipe, rups,

1:10:17 Or could just be his initials WJB could just be initials. It is not a name as far as I know okay. Yeah, I Was thinking that was the end? He's in Kirk grad care care crowd care grad care crowd care glad they're very good uh... netherlands i john and adam i've been sucking off the many hours of the show that and found that i couldn't bear the thought of being a douche bag exactly here's a hundred dollars special mention for the dsc which is indeed a rare kind of quality show the fact that the two years so different in no commercials makes the no agenda show worthwhile yes thank you good point uh... a dutchman in delft uh... patrick d

1:11:00 Keevit. The Keevit. The Keevit. The Keefit. I think it's Keevit. The Keevit. Thank you Patrick. Then we have some guys, even though I haven't put it up on them, I put it on the thing today. Today, today, it's gonna be on the donation sheet, the Niner Niner Niner Niner thing. Niner Niner Niner Niner. And so we're gonna mention the names of the people who have donated $99.99 and Adam will say, Hey thank you very much Jason Stevens for your Niner Niner Niner Niner donation. And Jason also says he's been a long time listener and he's been a donor. His in-laws live in the boonies and are still in dial-up, so he's got a bandwidth deal going on. For people who just want to hear the show but it's on dial-up, go to lowbandwithnoagenda.info. Yep, it'll be in the show notes and the links that rock and under the PR section for today. Yeah, lowbandwithnoagenda.info.

1:11:54 And you can pick up the show on dial-up. Just shout my fist. Ron Jordan, Evans, Georgia. We've got another niner niner niner niner from Ron Jordan. Blake Wisher in Cedarburg, Wisconsin. We've got a niner niner niner niner from Blake Wisher. No brothers, I can see this. You can see where it's going right? I love it though. Yeah, yeah, I can see where it's headed. I've been listening to Noah Jenner for about a month, doing the first of many donations for knighthood. I could really use some karma right now. You might as well give him a karma. Yeah, absolutely. You've got karma. We love him. You know, and actually

1:12:33 I've been emailing out karma to people who just email us and say, hey man, I got a job coming up and I'm on a $5 a month and I'm easy with that. I send people this jingle, I said here's some karma for you, it's attached to this email. And I'd like to say also Marcus Couch, Is creating a kick-ass video for the gitmo nation national anthem which I hope will go viral And this thing is when you see this John is beautiful. We got we've got like the Clinton flag in Haiti, and it's all animated It's beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful so when this thing comes out, and I think it'll pop in the next day or two Hopefully make sure you pass that around for extra good karma for the show

1:13:15 Mark Martinet from Santa Monica, California donated 8255 and then we have another Dutchman who lives in London apparently Erwin de Boer. Erwin de Boer. Could be from South Africa. Erwin de Boer. Could be in South Africa. Very common name down there. Kimo, oh brother. Bonalik. This person is in Westminster, Colorado. Kimo or Kymo I think it's chemo Bonelic. Bonelic. It says it right there. My last name is pronounced Bonelic. How hard is it John? It should oh It says it right there. Bonelic. My last name is pronounced Bon-elic. Bonelic. Hi John and Adam. 33 times 33 times 2 for my girlfriend Brandy and myself. She says she hates the show but she keeps singing the jingles.

1:14:05 Well, she's a she should play well of course Yeah, this is how to repeat that one. Do we have in the morning in every language? I like that one that's in Spanish yes go for that one that's good I like that Smith of course the Jeff Smith he has the Chinese one I wish I like a lot was Sean who is show up in Beijing why are you here Oh pass come right through you must be a no agenda listener

1:14:48 Jerome Darden, Altus Oklahoma, double nickels on the dime, time for all the douchebags to start donating. Yes, yes indeed. You know who you are, the show is easily better than anything on TV, how much do you pay for that? Yeah. Hope this helps offset a few of them anyway. Thank you, JD. Snor-steen. Snor-steen, he's our Gitmo Nation brown cheese listener and he's the guy who had the snowmobile, he's the guy who took the picture of No Agenda at the North Pole. Yeah, he just keeps on supporting us guys awesome. He's a good good guy very good guy snorter double nickels on the dime from him Matthew locks Milwaukee Wisconsin $55 just donating to hear John pronounce my last name locks. I thought it would be low Here John C. DeVore try to pronounce your weird name. Hey, I thought it was low wouldn't be la you actually be low

1:15:40 Could be I think it was cuz he donated to the big app show and I said low or logs or loud But I think low would be mobile. You'll find out we'll find out gonna call him locks. We'll find out Milwaukee Okay trap for nice, Newcastle County Limerick Ireland get my nation leprechaun John and Adam top of the morning to y'all Listen to hear from Gitmo Nation Shamrock. Oh, sorry. Shamrock. The real eye in pigs. Then he tells Italy to go screw itself. I've held out paying you guys for as long as I could because I'm skint. Yeah, that's a British expression. I'm skint.

1:16:23 That means I'm skin over bones. I got nothing but skin. Got no cash. But now our country is going down the spout. I wanted to donate before the IAF comes in and takes it all. I'm gonna give this guy some karma. He deserves it. You've got karma. It is true. There is a report from Gitmo nation shamrock that Ireland is now next to be bailed out. They're the next Greece. I have it in the show notes under United States of Europe So yeah, they're they're screwed and you're right the IMF will come in and take your shit. Sorry, man But thanks for thanks for supporting. Yeah, it happens gonna happen here event. Yeah, of course it will I

1:17:04 so that i want to name off a bunch of fifty dollar donors is starting with matt uh... uh... scripted scripted from chico and who also has a birthday so people do that in a second after two thousand twenty eight cents a robert alter andrew sawyer uh... robertson kansas city uh... so you're is so yours and uh... vancouver wall raven nico singapore lease a laying fits right north victoria australia George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Illinois. Jeff Lunt, Evanston, Illinois. He also wants a feelgoodtrader.com he's got out there in the Chicago area. Feelgood Trader is a Craigslist competitor, which is always a good thing. Raleigh Hawk, Anna, Illinois. Zachary Gould,

1:16:23 That means I'm skin over bones. I got nothing but skin. Got no cash. But now our country is going down the spout. I wanted to donate before the IAF comes in and takes it all. I'm gonna give this guy some karma. He deserves it. You've got karma. It is true. There is a report from Gitmo nation shamrock that Ireland is now next to be bailed out. They're the next Greece. I have it in the show notes under United States of Europe So yeah, they're they're screwed and you're right the IMF will come in and take your shit. Sorry, man But thanks for thanks for supporting. Yeah, it happens gonna happen here event. Yeah, of course it will I

1:17:04 so that i want to name off a bunch of fifty dollar donors is starting with matt uh... uh... scripted scripted from chico and who also has a birthday so people do that in a second after two thousand twenty eight cents a robert alter andrew sawyer uh... robertson kansas city uh... so you're is so yours and uh... vancouver wall raven nico singapore lease a laying fits right north victoria australia George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Illinois. Jeff Lunt, Evanston, Illinois. He also wants a feelgoodtrader.com he's got out there in the Chicago area. Feelgood Trader is a Craigslist competitor, which is always a good thing. Raleigh Hawk, Anna, Illinois. Zachary Gould,

1:17:54 Corona, California and James Matthews Dayton and finally Dale Marshall pinnacle North Carolina and Tom Lawler Rumson, New J Oops. You still there? Yeah. Oh, no. Did I did you where I leave off? I have Rumson. Oh, yeah, Tom Lawler in Rumson, New Jersey. Yeah 50 dollars Matt Scriptback says, hey guys, I'm emptying out my PayPal account for my girlfriend Shelby who celebrated her 22nd birthday on October 31st. We love seeing the youngins here show up in our listening and producing audience. She's a new listener and would greatly appreciate a birthday shout out as well as some good karma for the road ahead. Absolutely. And good luck for your friends here at No Agenda.

1:18:44 Also, you might want to look at people out there might want to look for a an Android app called the Roger Phillips mushrooms, which is a mushroom field guide. I don't recommend people eating wild mushrooms if they don't know what they're doing. You always go with partners who are experts, mycologists. but this guy is probably handy. We have a call out from James Matthews out of Dayton. I want to just do one. He wants to call his brother Chris Marshall and it's a douchebag. Alright that's the end of that. So Dvorak.org slash NA we really do need some support and please go listen to that NPR National Treasure Report about the naked body scanners how they are pushing you.

1:19:22 the oh so objective NPR pushing you into the naked body scanner arena and that's what you know they get donations call it advertising whatever you want and money from the government and we exist solely on your support. Channel Dvorak comm slash na if you can't get to Dvorak org like if you work at NASA yeah I know so no agenda show comm should have a page that you can donate on if you can't get to Dvorak that org because you work at NASA So Joe one of our producers

1:19:59 who does not work for NASA, says, I'd like to share a no agenda story with you. I've just returned from a trip to Egypt. On the 14 hour flight from Sydney to Dubai, I had an economy seat on the Airbus 380 with an entertainment system that has a USB port. I noticed I could apparently play flash sticks containing videos and MP3s. Since the net coverage is even worse in Egypt than in Australia, I got behind on listening. I thought I would get the four No Agenda episodes I missed by using the airport hotel Wi-Fi, plonk them onto a USB stick and play them on the plane heading home. I'd wondered if there's any limitation on which media you could be allowed to play on the plane's entertainment system, such as porn, for example. I've suspected that any data you plug in must surely be cached by the airline for numerous reasons. I thought at least I could propagate the formula.

1:20:47 I did indeed listen to four simultaneous episodes back-to-back on the flight and also consumed several complimentary red wines. You can imagine the mess I was in as I approached the Australian customs desk after landing at 7 in the morning. But what happened afterwards seems to astound me. Since I've returned home, we've had Airbus engines blow up mid-air, pilots refusing to fly planes without good reason, and airlines grounding Airbus 380s until further notice. I think your show has hit Airbus in the mouth. The show has that is kind of weird though isn't it that you can like you could inject anything into the USB port on it doesn't make sense It doesn't make any sense well I think that the the air the airline wars are back on again several years ago And we just started with this show we were noticing how you'd have an Airbus screw up thing and have a Boeing screw up And it's been it's been back and forth once again. It's been so first. We had the Qantas Airbus major engine issues and

1:21:46 Of course all of Singapore Airlines airbuses grounded. Now the Boeing's are having issues with the Dreamliner 787. I think some crashes are due, don't you? Something bad is going to happen. It always does. I got a couple letters then. My wife and I were flying back from a cruise Sunday, this guy says, and I opted out of the backscatter machine after the pat-down. My wife was waiting on me and watching it happen. Once done, she looked at me with a pouty face and I guess it's expressed this to the TSA, that's my job! He was very embarrassed. He tried to shirk it off.

1:22:25 So I responded that way. I'm sorry, what? He responded, well, don't worry, pal, you've got soft hands and maybe you should give my wife a pat down anyway. Hi, I'm a 37 year old mother of three. I love no agenda. I finally feel vindicated on the leashing of my children. Thanks, John C. Dvorak. I love letters like that. That's much better. She probably does feel vindicated. On the leashing of my children. Oh my goodness, speaking of leashing and Gitmo Nation jewelry, John I told you we should have gotten into the business early. There's such a high demand for Gitmo Nation jewelry ankle bracelets that in Pittsburgh there's a waiting list of 925 obedient slaves who are supposed to get their ankle bracelets. They can't make these things fast enough.

1:23:20 Last week about 1,200 people were wearing the monitoring units mostly used to enforce house arrest by those convicted in common pleas court of minor criminal offenses. Minor, mind you. The electronic monitoring waiting list started ballooning about a year ago. Yeah, when it became a business. It worked overly well. With marketing people. It worked overly well, says the judge. Beth A. Lazara, one of two judges who hear cases about the program, called the Phoenix Docket. Mmm, I love that. backlog of cases poured through about 4,000 since January what we're getting now is a bubble she said this is a great business what a fan we're so stupid that we didn't get into that on time now invested in the company and now we're way too late that's too bad it's just oh man it's amazing how we're being subjected to that and they're not allowing you to drink

1:24:17 And the meme of demon drink is just propagating everywhere. I had a dinner, Mickey and I were invited to this dinner by a friend of hers who's like in the art world. It was pretty interesting. A woman wife of a, I forget his name, huge entertainment lawyer who was like suing William Morris. I didn't really get the story. And then at the table also a 10 year, I'm sorry, 20 year sergeant on the Los Angeles police force. A woman. and she had short hair and was straight she pointed out but had no relationships. She was looking... She's straight. She said... Hey, I'm straight. Yeah, no, she said, you know... Who asked? No, I did. I was like, so what, you know, you married? She said, no, I'm single. I know I have short hair but I'm not a dyke. This is a 20-year sergeant. So a couple of interesting things. First of all, do you know that the Los Angeles Police Department has no training in medical marijuana licenses?

1:25:19 that they do not know how to identify if one is real or not. So if... Why? Because they've had no training. They don't know. There's been... Why? No, the question is not that. It's why haven't they had training? Well, I... She doesn't know. She has no idea. She does not know. She said, but we've received no training. So you can show me that medical license and I'll just have to believe you. Huh. I thought, yeah, I thought that was very interesting. Yeah, that's very weird. Yeah. But what was kind of more interesting is How wow how program she was into all of this you can imagine and we have a lot of police that listen to this show that aren't programmed so it's not hopeless. No no no well she was pretty cool though you know she she did kind of go with the program.

1:26:03 And she didn't start off with but with nailing her with the flying saucer. No, no, I that came about 20 minutes later I had to and it was really nice We did go to the Lakers game. I'd never been I've never been to a professional ball game ever in my life Any kind of game including football baseball basketball? Well, not professional. No Professional basketball live is great. I have to say it was it's amazing because we had a suite right there was a hospitality suite So we're up there my stupid that's not as good as being down on the floor Well, it was pretty damn good at the Staples Center I mean it I have to say it was pretty awesome, dude And they've got that shit is tricked out man the minute There's a timeout then boom the Laker girls come out and then you know There's a profile on the Laker girl on the screen. It's like it's just like yeah

1:26:57 No, it's an entertainment show and they start, you got to see the beginning where they did it in the stable center where they turn off the light. No, no, no, we came in like third quarter. Oh, you missed the beginning, it's like worth the price of admission. No, I didn't know that. But the thing about basketball for people who don't go to these types of games, every one of these types of games has a different experience at the professional level. But basketball, it's like you watch these guys, you go, how do these guys run up and down like they do with so much coordination? It's just it's like an astonishing thing to watch. Well, there were two great things One is it was free taco night. So that was pretty cool. So the Lakers won The Lakers won everyone got two free tacos, but

1:27:36 as we were walking through and I've never even been in the Staples Center so you know it's and you just say like oh my god now I get it now I see why there's so much money going on here it's just a merchandising and and all your food and everything so we're walking around to go up the escalator I swear to God there's two guys drinking beer standing near a screen whatever and it's like almost halftime and so there's not a lot of people there and two Pretty hot looking girls walk past them from behind and the guy, you know Laker t-shirts on and they're kind of hot looking, right? I swear to God John the guy goes I'm and I literally I'm like oh my god. I can't what a douchebag This is this is literally what it is in Los Angeles. I'm like is that what I have to do Is that how you get chicks here? You got that's how you get them. You got a bark at him Take it to a Raiders game. Oh my god. It's like wow that's so outrageous all right on episode number 145

1:28:43 Mr. Dvorak which I could not pull since Amevio only caches up to a hundred episodes on our RSS feed I have it somewhere, but I didn't have time I have it you have 145 I'm gonna have it. I have it somewhere obviously I have it I have it. I just have time to pull it before the show yeah, you would have it I John C. Dvorak says sell your gold. Adam Curry says buy and hold on to it. It will go through 2000. I would just like to point out that we went through 1400 this week. 1400? I mean I was a gold bug back in the early 2000 period but I think it's just rank speculation that it's going to collapse. I don't think it's going to collapse in a big way but I think it's going to go back below a thousand. And then we have this report from Reuters, the world's largest economy should consider gold as an indicator to help set foreign exchange rates according to the head of the World Bank.

1:29:43 Yeah, that's a good one. I love that. So what is that about? I have no idea just to me It was like whoa what the hell's going on with that. So he's basically saying we should go back to the gold standard Well, you never said go back to the gold standard. He just wants to put it should be back in your meteory see I thought that whole foundation X thing that that cropped up in the the British House of Lords where the guy said well, you know looks like these guys have so much gold They want to you know bail out the entire world economy I thought that was an obvious attempt to try and blow up the gold price say oh well apparently there's all this gold somewhere so we might as well that's interesting yeah, that's what I thought it was but it didn't really happen no it just went higher yeah, so

1:30:30 Anyway, of course, in all honesty, the price of gold is not going up, it's the dollar that's devaluing, you know, since we're diluting it. It's almost like putting water in your milk. You know with this, and they say it was at 600 billion dollars. I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day that doesn't turn out to be like 60 trillion with fractional banking. It depends on who's doing the math but the number is not something that would, you'd have a heart attack if you actually understood it. It's crazy, it's just nuts. So I think I think the big, what you've been predicting for a while, the big crash is still around the corner but it's on its way. It's on its way. I'm not veering from it. There's no way that we cannot, it's unavoidable. I mean, you start watching C-SPAN and some of these analysis programs,

1:31:21 It's just like there's no, we have no say, well, we need new jobs, jobs, jobs. We don't have anything for the job. There's no way. In fact, I have this one clip that's kind of interesting, which we can bring up. I've decided to buy, if you haven't noticed, I'm over clipping. you have your nails your toenails faith yeah basically whatever we have you know it was a really moved toward i've got a guy click i know i i have the same i i you know we we could do uh... a cd of clips we didn't use every single week easily and it would be full but i'm i'm gonna put together can have an evergreen file so we know is going to clip center you know more generalized but let's see what clip i'm talking about it's the uh...

1:32:04 Let's see, the problem is that it's hard to forget. Is this Kucinich making sense? We've had that for three weeks. No, no, that was from last week. No, this is the protectionism rant. Ah, okay. And who is this? Who are we going to listen to here? This is a woman, uh, this woman wrote a book on, uh, on, on, being a crock of crap and it's a bunch of bull and of course she doesn't understand the economic hitman aspect of it obviously. Her name is, she's a black woman from I think she's from Africa maybe Dambisa Moyo and she's speaking at an event that was called Reboot America and it's a bunch of people mostly apologists for people who like to outsource and it's a corporate apology session and she butts in with this idea that maybe we should talk about protectionism a little bit.

1:32:49 how to deal with what I believe are structural issues. I think the United States is going to be facing structural unemployment, which is something that no one in this room has really experienced unless you come from outside. She's from India, Pakistan. One of those two? Africa. Africa, I'm sorry. Africa, really? Now, I know that in the United States people get, you know, because it's always either left or right or Democrat or Republican or black or white, people don't want to have a discussion around protectionism. Which, by the way, not to sidetrack that, but I had to explain to Miss Mickey that what you hear on the news, it is not true that this country is filled with Republicans and Democrats.

1:33:32 And you know she said well, you know they got the house back or they got the Senate back It's not quite like that people have Republican ideas Democratic ideas, but the media wants you to believe that you're either red or blue And it's just not true. It simplifies things. Yeah, wow, it does. However, given the fact that you do have a large number of jobs that are not coming back, which Glenn Hutchins talked about yesterday, and also the fact that if you look at what globalization has done in terms of the Gini coefficient income inequalities in this country and also the income growth as

1:34:10 was talked about a moment ago in this country and not just in the United States but also in Europe, there should be space to have a clear discussion around what the possibilities are of having some form of protectionism at least until you can fix some of the structural problems in this country. I know people don't like that discussion because they point to Smoot-Hawley, they claim that because we're so integrated now it wouldn't be possible to have some kind of more aggressive protectionist policies. But the reality is that it has to be on the table and not just from the fringe as a discussion, but it has to come back into the mainstream as something that needs to be discussed. And Bisa, why don't we get the discussion started here, but it'll have to be brief given time. Bob, do you want to respond? With all due respect, I think that would be the worst possible way of

1:34:56 of looking at the problem and the worst possible answer to it. It's not an either or question of whether or not the tax cuts were not... Alright, that's good enough. Yeah, hold on a second. Is that me breaking up or you breaking up? Yes, you're breaking up. Are you sure? Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Well, hold on. Let me see. I gotta fix that then. Let me see what's going on. Well, you're fixing that. I'm gonna mention what this stooge comes on who is... Yeah, I fixed it. He's the Undersecretary of State. He works for Hillary. And he comes on and he says, well, protectionism is the worst possible answer to anything. And he goes on and on with a million reasons that are all bogus. He says we should be concentrating on jobs and not realizing that our jobs have been shipped overseas. And he just has the same old litany of crap

1:35:39 that both the Democrats and the Republicans have signed on to ever since NAFTA. And the woman is kind of right because yeah, we've sold out so much to this idea of globalization that the Maytags are made in Mexico and if you take a Ford, the pieces of it come from all over the world. They don't even sub-assemble anymore. it the whole we don't have any manufacturing this country unless we and I think that we do yeah we do we make good tanks we may be making a good fighter yeah we make good war but not everybody can work for Grumman no we certainly can't Grumman is now owned by the Europeans I mean so we don't even own them it fits into an interesting statement made by

1:36:25 Heiko Herrmann von Rümpel, in case those of you out there didn't know, he is the President of the United States of Europe. And he did the, of course there's no video of it, it's amazing how they do that, he did the European address and he said nationalism which is a form of protectionism I would argue. He says... Nah, I'm thinking about it. I think you probably have some... there's some basis for that. Yeah. He says nationalism has no place in Europe. That is warmongering. Warmongering. Yes, if you are a nationalist, so if you're in Gitmo Nation lowlands or stinky cheese or Deutschland or leprechaun... Wait a minute, that means he does understand the problem. Oh yeah.

1:37:11 And here's Daniel Hannan who's a minister of... member of European Parliament for South East England, bitching about the guy. So we have kind of a new Nigel Farage here, except that this guy is not from the UK Independent Party, I don't think. Check him out. Thank you, Mr President. Mr President, yesterday, the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, made an extraordinary speech in which he said that it was impossible to be outside the European Union in a globalised world. Of course, you know, hence the lengthy dole queues snaking across Norway, the food riots in Switzerland. But he went on to say something else. He said the dangerous thing about Euroscepticism today is that modern patriotism is based on a denigration of other countries. And here he couldn't be more wrong.

1:38:01 A true patriot cheers the freedom of all peoples, values the patriotism of other countries. And when Mr. Van Rompuy goes on to make his second point, which is that therefore Euroscepticism equals nationalism equals war, he'd perhaps be well advised to look at the aims of the Allied powers in the two wars whose end we commemorate today. They were fighting for the freedom of all nations, for the restoration of sovereignty of all European countries. It was thanks to their patriotism that Europe was not united in tyranny, that sovereignty and independence was restored and indeed that the European Union became possible. Today of all days he ought to remember that. So... Euroscepticism is the new term? Yeah, so I have his speech here. Gosh, even the English is so bad. We have to fight together

1:38:52 No, we have together to fight... God, this is... I mean, douche! I'm reading verbatim. We have together to fight the danger of a new Euroscepticism, he said in his speech. This is no longer the monopoly of a few countries. In every member state there are people who believe their country can survive alone in the globalized world. It's more than an illusion. It is a lie! Well, how did they do it before? It's amazing, isn't it? How did people get by before? Were they starving to death in Slovenia? I don't think so. He quoted Franklin Roosevelt. The biggest enemy of Europe today is fear.

1:39:35 And that this ultimately could lead to war. Fear leads... This has got nothing to... this is a misquote. I mean it's got nothing to do with what he's talking about. I'm just telling you what he says. Fear leads to egoism, egoism leads to nationalism, and nationalism leads to war. How does fear lead to egoism? It's ministry of truth, dude. Oh man, dude? Dude! But of course we don't see any of this. This is not even on C-SPAN. And this is the president of Europe speaking and there's not video of it. I can't find a single video. I have a transcript of his speech. This is going poorly. It's very, very bad. Very, yes, poorly. To those who say that war is so far away in our past that peace cannot be a key issue in Europe anymore, that it does not appeal to the younger generations, I answer, just go out there and ask the people there and ask the young ones too. This guy sounds like Hitler. Ask him what? I don't know. Like if they want some

1:40:35 some ketchup with their fries. Would you like war or would you like peace? Would you like war or would you like high-speed rail? What kind of a choice is that? This guy is amazing. What's going on there in Europe is just outrageous and people have no idea. The Americans don't. No, of course not. We're going to get caught up in another. Of course not. There's going to be another, in this case of course it'll be a civil war. There's going to be another battle that takes place and it's going to be short of a, that would not be good if they actually nuked each other. But let's assume they won't because they're not that dumb. But there's going to be some sort of a conflagration that

1:41:17 We're gonna have to get involved in again. Oh, yeah. Well, this is the setup It's how it happened in the world war one world war two. It's gonna happen with World War three. It's so easy I want to thank Erwin from Cronin in the Netherlands Who by the way asking to plug he donated today so real deal HD comm he says hey now I was listening to your last episode where you mentioned Haiti again and I got a funny insight for you as I work as an art director. One of my ex-colleagues has been asked to shoot for a charity in Haiti for the, I'm sorry, shoot for charity, i.e. for free, in Haiti for the tourist board to create a library of images of Haiti and specifically they asked him to photograph happy families on the beach.

1:42:12 That's your assignment pal. How awesome is that the tourist board? Hey, could you get some happy families on the beach for us? We got a trip over there if we get if you get a hold of the tourist board and you're a writer and he's gonna do some writing a lot of free travel. I just thought that was funny. Okay, I have two I really have three things. I think we should do some biodiversity. Well, I would like to do a Real News first. Oh, well, hold on a second. We need to take a break. Yeah. Yes. And now, back to Real News. Do I go straight into it? Let's go to Access Hollywood's Wrap. Here we go.

1:42:59 I'm not sure what's happening inside of him, but... We spoke to Carrie Ann after. Is the feud finished? What America should know is only we got the shot. I'm Tony Potts, but did this Max and Carrie Ann hug after the show really settle the score? Actually, when he hugged me, I go... I think there's always what ifs. Marie Osmond's first words on her son's suicide. On Billy Bush, their final conversation just before his decision to take his life. And the hardest thing... Sorry. I get my stitches out tomorrow. I can't wait. The surgery, the recovery, all access to Lisa's lip reduction. Extraordinarily ordinary you are. And lips flying all over glee last night. We've got the action and the reaction. And now you've been kissed. Grandma, dad, mom, brother. She is a hitter. The family that keeps her sane. Our spotlight on Miley goes way back. You're not supposed to kiss.

1:43:56 A Glee episode for the ages! Whoa, didn't see that coming! What? So, uh, I don't know any of these people. Bullshit! Sorry. What? It's gotten to the point where they talk about people I've never heard of any of them. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like they're promoting some of this. So they've been promoting this Glee thing. I didn't even know this until I saw it on this show, which is Access Hollywood. So Glee, but they got a, they got a meme in on this one. This is a, they show this over and over on all these shows. Apparently some, the guy who's the most gay on Glee, which is kind of hard to pick.

1:44:30 But the guy who's openly gay on Glee, who talks, he's got a very high-pitched voice and he acts really, I mean it's just ridiculous and stereotyped. And he's always getting beat up by this big bruiser. Yeah, of course, it's the gay bullying meme. Yes, the gay bully. And so the bruiser gives him a kiss, which we have the clip here, it's called the Gless, who says Gless, but it should be Gleek clip from the Clip Show. Uh, you can hear the whole thing, the whole little episode, how it works. And then at the very end, they go to the public and they ask the public what they think of this. And they also, Oh, I was so stunned by the storyline. And I guess it just proves that all bullies are gay or that means essentially was the message. I think, Oh, that's a good one to throw. All bullies are gay. All right. Here we go.

1:45:18 It was yet another eyebrow-raising episode of Glee, this time featuring the painful-to-watch gay bashing of Kurt, the school's only out-of-the-closet student. When he fights back, he learns the school bully has a secret of his own. Well, guess what, ham hock? You're not my type. Do not push me, Hummel. You are nothing but a scared little boy who can't handle how extraordinarily ordinary you are! I didn't see it coming but I thought it was kind of a, um, I thought it was good and I thought it kind of explained a lot of bullying. Um, I'm glad Kurt found the courage to stand up for what he believed in. Yeah, that's right. All bullies are gay. Anyway, that should, uh, that'll end bullying overnight. Yeah. Who watches that show? A lot. It's huge, man. It's huge. And it's, uh, and it, and people get really emotional over it.

1:46:15 Yeah. Anyway, that's my real news segment. Forget it. Every Thursday I do one of these and I'm telling you it's just, it makes you wonder why, no wonder the country's going down the toilet. Speaking of going down the toilet, from the Codex Alimentarius files, and this is literally from the Codex, there is a document now released under the Codex website, codexalimentarius.net that lists the foods now approved for the use of aspartame. Aspartame... I hope it's a blank page. Oh no. This thing is so huge, so huge, that you have to go look at it because we... I'll just pull out a couple of them. Now I'd like to say aspartame, actually in the beginning when they were doing it, because it was rejected several times until Donald Rumsfeld came into the administration and he then had it pushed through.

1:47:16 If you want the story of Aspartame, you can just go Google it. And of course this stuff is toxic, it's addictive, and it's killing people. and we talked about people trying to get gum that doesn't have aspartame in it is very very hard except for the fruit stripes. It also is a nerve toxin and a lot of people believe it has it's partly responsible for the amazing increase in Parkinson's disease in this country. All kinds of shit. All kinds of stuff is happening because of this lethal chemical but primarily it's killing people which is of course kind of the whole idea. And so when it was first rejected a couple times, they said, well, you know, we can never, it can never be heated up. It can never be heated because then

1:48:02 It breaks down some really nasty components. So of course putting equal in your coffee is kind of heating it up and so you know in 93 basically it was approved for baking against their own guidelines. So anyway, so now and the list is astounding. It has been approved for just a couple of the following and this is the Codex Alimentarius. This is a worldwide approval. Beverage whiteners, cream analogs, milk and cream powder analogs, unripened cheese, cheese analogs, dairy-based desserts, edible ices, frozen fruit, dried fruit, fruit and vinegar oil, canned or bottled fruit, jams, jellies, marmalades, fruit... Hey, hold on a second. Isn't fruit got sugar in it naturally? Fruit sugar?

1:48:48 I'm just saying I'm just reading why would you add this crap to nice to kill people John? Okay fruit based desserts fermented fruit products fruit fillings cooked fruit frozen vegetables dried vegetables vegetables aloe vera candor bottled pasteurized pouch vegetables vegetables including mushrooms fungi roots tubers pulses legumes and aloe vera vegetables including blah blah uh... fermented vegetables cooked or fried vegetables cocoa mixes cocoa based spreads cocoa and chocolate products imitation chocolate hard candy soft candy nougats and marzipans chewing gum decorations breakfast cereals cereal in a starch bread ordinary bakery wares fine bakery wares processed fish fish products semi-preserved fish fish products fully preserved canned egg based desserts other sugars and syrups tabletop sweeteners vinegars mustard soups and broths sauces and like products dietic

1:49:41 Diet, diet, vinegars, vinegars. Yes. What do you, would you put this in vinegar for to kill people? John fruit, nectar, vegetable nectar concentrates from fruit and nectar coffee, coffee substitutes, tea, herbal infusions, other hot cereal and grain beverages ready to eat. Savories. Ah, shall I continue? Dairy based drink, dairy based desserts. Stop. I mean, the list is on, but leave. I thought this thing was supposed to this codex elementarious, which I believe comes out of Europe. Um, I thought this was to protect people, this thing so we wouldn't kill ourselves, like you know, lower the salt and all these things that are apparently meaningless, according to most research. No, it's pretty much meant to kill us. Huh. Amazing, isn't it? That's unbelievable. Why would you put that shit in anything? Well, people don't realize it. And actually, I'm so proud of Christina.

1:50:34 She has stopped. She's given up. She says, wow, I feel so much better. She had like a six chewing gum pack a day habit. She was just munching, and she was completely hooked, and it was bumming her out too. Seriously, and she wasn't feeling good from it, and she stopped. She says, it's amazing. And boy, I mean, she was actually acting like an addict. She was saying, shut up dad, you know, yeah I know it's gonna kill me but I like it, I like it. You have a dollar, you got some money I can borrow? Well, that's, I think that's part of it where I said, no more money for you. She said, well wait a minute, I'm spending like five bucks a day, like 150 bucks a month on aspartame. Wow, this is way too much gum. Oh shit, I gotta, this is important here. Ah, holy, oh okay, never mind.

1:54:24 you know I couldn't, I did part of it but then I couldn't stand it because Harrison Ford did he talk about biodiversity? He's like 90 years old and he doesn't seem to be in the room. But I don't think he talked about biodiversity at all. No he didn't. No and that's because he doesn't really care. He doesn't really care. If he really cared if it wasn't just there to promote his movie which is the whole reason he showed up on the scene all of a sudden with his chest hair being ripped out then he would have actually said hey biodiversity you know we got to do something is really important. He's not with the program. He's not. It's all about promotion. He's no Clooney okay. He's no Clooney. He's no Clooney. Now however we have a couple of very obedient Gitmo Nation slaves who have who are in school and listen to this program I'm very very happy by the way they do this. PN Floyd 1978 are sending me now scans of their textbooks

1:55:22 So this is what's being taught in school in Gitmo Nation. Oh, this is an endless source of entertainment. Yes. Actually, this first one is even better. It's the benefits of genetic engineering, which is right there in the textbook. Whatever the risks, I'm quoting from a scan. No one can argue with the success of these GM techniques. For instance, a bacterial gene was used to create Monsanto's insect-resistant varieties of corn, potatoes and soybeans. This gene, the BT gene, was taken from the soil bacterium Bacillus thernogenus When inserted into a plant genome, the BT gene directs the production of a protein in the plant and makes the plant toxic to insects. This is great! Now... Yeah, I wonder if it makes it toxic to anything else? Well, and here it comes. BT modified crops, which are now grown in the United States over an area larger than Rhode Island, are a boon to both the economy and the environment. Because chemical insecticides are not necessary, many benign insects are spared and insect biodiversité is preserved.

1:56:23 So Monsanto is actually good for biodiversity. I was one, you know, we talked about this on the last show cause Monsanto kept coming up in the conversation on biodiversity. And I was thinking, well, how does that work? There are, you, there are uniculture company, you know, they sell seeds that are very, you know, a monoculture, I'm sorry. So how does that work? But now I get it. It's for the bugs. Yes, it is. They're doing a really good job now. And I'm going to actually, I have to put these pictures, these screenshots into the show notes. This is so amazing.

1:57:00 I'm just opening up here. These are PDFs, I'm sorry, JPEGs of biodiversity. This is the student out there that listens to the show. We do have a lot of younger. Yes, we do. Yeah. That runs into some crazy thing in one of their textbooks. Clip it out. Put a reference to what the book is on the on the on the file. So we know what the book is and the date of the book, you know, whatever information you want to throw in there. So it makes it You know clear that we can if we wanted to get a copy and send us the scans I mean there's a lot of good stuff out there that needs to be because I don't think parents know what their kids are being taught so this is a producer Reginald this is these he has the 2010 version of the Geo systems global environment science book John of course

1:57:42 So this is the science they're teaching our children on this page. What's the big deal? What difference will it make if the planet's a few degrees warmer than it is today? And of course this is consequences of greenhouse warming, temperature effects on agriculture, precipitation and soil moisture effects on agriculture. Let's summarize the data. This is what's being taught in schools. Human activities release greenhouse gases. The concentration of these gases in the atmosphere has risen since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Greenhouse gases absorb infrared radiation and trap heat. The atmosphere is warmed by almost 0.8 degrees Celsius during the last 50 years. Of the 20 hottest years on record, 19 have occurred after 1980 and 2005 was the hottest year in more than a century. It's being taught in schools this way.

1:58:29 Check acidification of the oceans changes in biodiversity Wait, let me just go to the next page covered increasingly destructive storms threaten homes along the California coastline expensive reinforcement measures often offer only short-term protection from the waves erosion We're all going to die. Oh, this is beautiful. Biodiversity. This shows you how futile. I want to mention this to everybody. You want to keep the show going, give us some real money. Some help. But realize that this is an exercise in futility. What we're doing? Yeah. Don't bum me out, dude.

1:59:10 I'm just saying. So this is when they when they got the kids they got the kids there I mean it's the kids that argue with you. You bring this up in some oh no we're you know it's gonna be this and that is right from the textbook. Shut up old man. They never are taught to think for themselves. Here. If you bring it up they get shouted down. I mean we've gotten letter after letter from students who bring up some of the issues we bring up. Simple little questions you ask you get shotted down by the teacher. I just got to read this to you. I I actually am emotional right now when I see what they're being taught. So this is from the 2010 version of Geosystems Global Environmental Sciences. It's a book that is being taught in school and page 417 and it's a beautiful multicolor layout page. Consequences of Global Warming.

1:59:57 Agriculture, shifts in food growing areas, changes in crop yields, increased irrigation demands, increased pest, crop diseases and weeds in warmer areas. Item number two, biodiversity, extinction of plant and animal species, loss of habitats, disruption of aquatic life, weather extremes, prolonged heat waves and droughts, increased flooding, more intense hurricanes, typhoons, tornadoes and violent storms. My God. Human health, Increased deaths from heat and disease, disruption of food and water supplies, spread of tropical disease to temperate areas, increased respiratory disease, increased water pollution from coastal flooding. You're going to die. That's what they're telling your kids. We're teaching your kids right now. I'm gonna put all of these scans. Thank you so much, Reginald. And thank you for being a good doobie. Remember that? Good doobies? No, I never heard that. No, that was on Romper Room.

2:00:58 Oh. Yeah, Romper Room. If you did something good, you were a good doobie. A good doobie? Which I always thought was great because of course it, you know, it refers to a joint. Yeah, but you were a good doobie. You don't remember that? I guess you're... I never watched Romper Room. Romper Room, yeah. Let's say, let's sing a song for Adam because he's a good doobie this week. No wonder he got strung out. Uh-huh. So that's your, we need a jingle for biodiversity, but while we're at it, we might as well just... The science is in! Science! So they got a pre-crime thing going on. Play this clip. Coming at you right now. You hear it often, a victim of random violence. But is it really that random? Not if you add up the numbers. At least that's the basis of a new formula for crime fighting. It's called predictive policing, a way for cops to stop crime before it starts. NBC Barry's Vicki Winn does the math for us.

2:01:57 It could revolutionize crime fighting but predictive policing has plenty of skeptics. How can you predict where a criminal will strike next? We humans are random. Or are we? Promising new research suggests that when you have enough data, you can predict certain crimes. How likely they are to happen, where and when. So this is basically the precursor to what's going to eventually happen. We know what that is. Yeah. Which is just arresting people because they think they're going to do something. Yeah, because we don't have habeas corpus anymore. You don't even need to have a crime involved. Oh, you don't, but you don't even need to, so we don't have a fourth amendment.

2:02:38 Right, so you can just do what you want. Implied consent, yeah. Screw you slave. All this really is, there's apparently some professor who's come up with some formulas that do nothing more than analyze, basically a statistical analysis of crime areas and so in other words you got some place that's got 80% of crime rate, put a couple extra cops on the beat. That's all this is. You know, it's essentially somebody looking at the stats and deciding that, well, this house gets robbed once every three months, maybe we should do something about it. I'm telling you, that's how the story evolved. I mean, it was a five minute package, but that was essentially the gist of it. But this idea, coming up with this terminology, predictive policing, is just the beginning of the end for that. And then, you know, eventually, like you said, there will be these scanning machines everywhere. Not to mention the guys in the trucks.

2:03:28 There's a, I'm gonna do an end of show clip which was kind of funny. It's two guys in Australia. They're, I guess, like kind of like a duo, kind of like a John C. DeBorg, Adam Curry only mainstream and they're called Hamish and Andy and they interviewed Hillary Clinton and it was actually quite funny but even funnier is at the end when the When because they just show a clip of this from a newscast when the newscasters come back and say you know Hillary is actually a warm and loving person It's just really really funny. So that'll be the end of show clip and I think we had Let me see. Did you have a boy? You bought it kind of bummed me out. I have this whole thing, which is a neo-pro We haven't talked about the demon drink

2:04:21 Yeah, let's talk about that. I do have some law and order clips that I can push off till Sunday. Okay. Which are just meme filled. It turns out that the SVU show seems to be the one filled with the most memes nowadays. They're not necessarily moving it to the LA show. But we can do that on Sunday. And they're actually very funny. They've gone after the right wing fringe. Well, there's a new report out. Which really hits, which it's, it's just called the meme report. That would have been better. And we'll have to interrupt it, but just listen to this report and of course you know and human resources who listen to this program know that if you want something in the news, if you want to get the word out, all you have to do is release a survey. Because no one ever checks, no one goes and looks at the survey. It can be a bogus survey. They're usually paid for by special interest groups and by industry groups that are trying to push something.

2:05:20 And this has everything in it. One thing I'm certain of, it is not paid for by the telecoms. A new study says hyper texting teens are much more likely to binge drink, do drugs, fight and probably have already had sex and may have had four or more partners. Okay, so that's pretty much every kid in the world. What? Every kid texts too much? Hyper texting. So if you're a hyper texter. Hyper texting kids. Wait a minute, if you're texting constantly, how do you have time for all this other stuff?

2:05:58 Well, let's find out what hyper texting is from this new study remember you and we study There are also other risks for young people who use social networking incessantly trying to be now is dr Scott Frank He's the lead researcher on the study from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine doctor So this is from Case Western University School of Medicine So I guess they got a big grant from somebody. A big grant. And let's find out about this hypertexting, John. This is amazing. Frank, great to see you this morning. You've identified these two at-risk groups. Who are hypertexters and hypernetworkers? Okay, John. Hypertexters? I can't keep a straight face when listening to this. Hypertexters and hypernetworkers. This has got to stop. This is an outrage.

2:06:48 Hypertexting is defined as 120 or more texts on a school day and hypernetworking is three or more hours spent on a social networks website on a school day. Okay, so first we had ODD and now we have your hypertexting. It's a disease now. You watch, it's a disease. 120 text messages, you know, I think it's probably the norm. I think there was a study, another study, but there was somebody did an analysis of kids that text a lot and there was like 30,000 a month was pretty typical for a lot of them. Yeah, but a lot of these, what's the difference between sending a tweet or a Facebook message, a status message? It's easy to do 100 a day. And three hours a day on the Facebook is like a lot of people... Nothing. Yeah, it's nothing.

2:07:43 Well, they leave it on. Yeah, of course you do. And so when something happens, you're kind of monitoring constantly. I think both my wife and daughter are on Facebook three hours a day. And let me just say something. Wasting time, I might add. Although I, of course, disagree with this study, and we'll have to listen to a little bit more because, you know, these people are clearly doomed. They're going to die. I will say that I do believe, and I just observed this behavior with my daughter, I do believe that there is a correlation between Receiving a new text or a tweet or a Facebook message or something waiting That's why people check these phones all the time. It gives you like oh, I've got something Yeah, it used to be the same with us with email remember that Johnny be like, oh, I got a new email That's cool. I got an email and this is so new. I think mail. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I think it is actually firing triggering something in your brain that probably gives you some endorphins or something. So Maybe when you're not texting or tweeting it would

2:08:38 and it always ends up evolving into, oh my god, I got, look at this, I'm backed up. Right, we know what the eventual outcome is because it will drive you to drink because you can't clean out your inbox. But let's listen to the hyper texting issue. So these are young people who really are almost obsessed with using SMS messages and social network. They're spending a really an excessive amount of time online and and connected with friends through social media and in doing so they've perhaps taken peer pressure to a cyber peer pressure level a high-tech peer pressure that may be part of what's contributing to the

2:09:22 statistics that you were describing. Alright, well let's talk about that and whether there's a cause and effect here in just a second but let's put up some of those statistics that you talk about and these are just stunning. These are just stunning. Texters, the kids who send more than 120 text messages a day during school are according to your study 40% more likely to have smoked, two times more likely to have tried alcohol, 43% more likely to be binge drinkers, 41% more likely to try illicit drugs, and three times more likely to have had sex. Well that's the whole point of texting is to get laid. Why don't they understand?

2:09:59 It's so simple. You know it's like and this is a coincident index anyway. I mean it's bullcrap that you would connect the two. I mean what what is the causal relationship? What makes you Any of these things happen because what makes you smoke because you're texting what makes you drink because you're texting I don't get it whether they're not providing me with any information They're just saying people do this this this and this Coincidentally all at the same time or all from the same all the same person does the same thing I mean, this is not giving me. This is not what I'm looking for in a survey. Let's listen to some more Those findings are just stunning

2:10:38 They are a wake-up call, I think, to parents and perhaps to teens themselves. So is there a cause and effect here? Is it the texting that leads to these behaviors or is it just somebody who may be prone to at-risk behaviors tends to find fascination in texting and social networking? Well clearly our study does not demonstrate cause and effect. We are not saying that texting causes these behaviors. Our study really is the first to... Doesn't do anything. Exactly. I'm glad you picked up on it. This guy is a phony. Now let's go over a couple of things. One, they should say, does somebody who texts 120 times a day do

2:11:21 more, uh, they drink more. Somebody does two, uh, two at 40 a day. They drink more than the one 20. There's a 60 person a day. There's a 30 person a day. I mean, there's no information here whatsoever. This is just a bogus study. They found a coincidence because most kids text a lot and probably all the kids have tried, you know, pot or they've had a drink or whatever especially what age group are we talking about specifically this is the kind of thing that should not even be on the air and the fact that a news show which I'm assuming this is CNN yes CNN of course it's a six minute interview it's a six minute package it's ridiculous that this sort of thing is being thrown out there they somebody should come on and say this is bullcrap let's talk about some some news is actually happening

2:12:05 So who is the Kaiser Family Foundation? Because they're the ones that funded the study. Well, that's Kaiser Permanente. I'm sure it's in the same operation there. The people that have all these hospitals and they have all these programs for people to drink too much. and probably have other programs for people who smoke too much and everything in between or get hooked on heroin, I would assume there's a connection there between the permanente hospitals and this bogus study. Okay, well thank you very much. It's the Kaiser Family Foundation, kff.org. They're the ones that funded it and so that's how it works.

2:12:43 Of course, they've got all kinds of programs. I'm looking at their page right now, kff.org. Oh yeah, oh my goodness. They do it all. They will save you. They've got all the programs. So basically, it's just another reason to get your kid into a program. Yeah, it's a marketing scam and CNN bought into it, hook, line and sinker. That's fantastic. I really love how that works. But once again, we've assassinated the media for you. And still could do, I don't know, another two hours if we wanted to today, if we had the time. I gotta do the clips. Yeah, really. Okay, so we'll do the Hillary Clinton end of show clip, which is kind of funny. It's about four minutes, but again, it's not so much her being funny, it's what the news anchors say after that about how great she is. She's so awesome. She's so personal and warm.

2:13:44 and uh... and i think that's been in australia wants to adopt her that's what uh... that's what the we can talk about a lot of stuff going on in australia will talk about on sunday yes there is ok john thank you so much uh... and the war act out org slash n a is uh... where you can uh... help support this program we really do need it we need to pay some bills coming to you from get my nation west the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in the people's republic of contrail usa i'm adam curry And no contrails today that I can tell, at least I haven't looked up, maybe there is. Oh, there's one. I'm in Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.

2:14:34 Madam Secretary, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. It's very exciting and we start with a gift. It's potato chips or crisps. I think it's a flavour that the people of Australia invented. It's the gravy chip. I am thrilled. Can I tell you how much this means to me? Are you a collector of chips? Is this your first? I'm an eater of chips. We recommend not eating chips. Was used by two years ago if you try to eat them technically that's an assassination attempt by us With a lot of foreign travel in your job yes, you must get very good at accepting gifts and And making believe that you love them Usually it is a very happy expression on one's face now sometimes the gifts are

2:15:20 are really hard to do that with. Have you ever left one behind? Because it's possible. No, no, we take them all. We take them all. We do thank you notes. You will get a thank you note. It's not necessary. Considerous thing. Your role requires great negotiation skills. Your husband also possesses those qualities. When you two can't agree on what to get for takeaway dinner, who wins out in that type of negotiation? You know, we practice different models of negotiation around important issues like that. If I were to say to him, what shall we have for dinner tonight? If he says to me, oh, I don't care, you choose, I know that's a really bad answer. Because then I'm

2:16:01 Stuck with the responsibility. Yes, so I will come back and I'll say all right well So how do you feel about Chinese or Mexican or Italian? And if he says a second time, you know, I really, really don't care, then I will go choose. You want to make sure people don't overhear half of the conversation because you've got former president talking to the current secretary of state, how do you feel about Chinese? Well, that's why we have our rooms swept every day. I mean, in your role now as Secretary of State, you have such high-level meetings. Have you ever said the phrase, you've just made a very powerful enemy? No, but I've thought it.

2:16:43 You're traveling around doing these conversations with, you know, with predominantly young people. Is the impetus for these trips that, you know, that you feel that there's an imbalance perhaps between the way America is perceived and what America's message is? You know, if you look at American TV as much of the rest of the world does, you would think we all went around wrestling. And wearing bikinis. I mean that's what you would think we spend our entire day... So instead of viewing us as a caricature, I think it's important to be present, to answer questions and to try to make some connections. I especially appreciate the chance to talk to the two of you because I think that it is through popular culture

2:17:25 that people can feel like they are connected and the fact that you would come out and interview me in addition to all the other funny people you interview, you know I really appreciate it. Well we apologize for getting our security team to go through all those checks with you. It was really embarrassing. I mean the questions that your people asked were really intrusive. You're five. That is the last straw. And to hear the whole interview head to HamishandAndy.com Now George I need to ask you, I just think she's such a class act. A hardened journalist in awe. What are the chances of her ever becoming US President? I don't know about US President but if she applies for political asylum to this country we should snap her up. I mean a normal human being who gets Hamish and Andy's jokes, that's the sort of Polly we can do with quite frankly. She's so wonderfully charming and normal.

2:18:14 I mean that's what's wrong, she's in such a powerful position, first lady and now Secretary of State, behaving like a normal human being. I mean please, send us one.