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00:00 Sailors are sissies. Adam Curry! It's Thursday, August 20th of 2026 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1896 This is No Agenda And hello in the morning to you Gitmo Nation this is no agenda episode 1896 and it's been a bit stormy around here trolls in the troll room in the morning to you Man, John's passing that just so much changed. It's been exactly a month and a day and Wow so much so much to do so much going on I really really Appreciate what Darren and Larry did for the past six shows? Thank you guys so much For steering the ship. I've been just trying to figure out what to do and

00:54 I honestly prayed a lot about it, and I'm currently keeping my eyes on Jesus. Just to move forward and I figured out the best way to do anything with this show is... To reach out to Gitmo Nation! And Gitmo Nation responded today as a special guest on the show in the morning to Sir Ducifer Knight of The Noah General Roundtable Robb Due In the morning everyone. It's great to be here I got, I got the text last night as I was getting out of the car and uh... i already have a crazy day so why not add more to that day? Man, I appreciate you jumping on it thats so awesome Now for people who don't know Sir Ducifer if you've never been in any of the Austin area or the Hill Country meetups You've been at night for gosh how long have you been at night

01:44 Uh, let's see. It was the episode where you had I think it was a six hour show and you guys gave the half off deal for nights. Oh wait! You're one of those discount nights? I'm a discount night but i have given more since then um but yes I was a discount night and that was one of your first a good four and a half, five hour show that you guys were reading notes from people. And I think that was the first of many shows like that. I believe that was either the 10 year anniversary or the 1000th episode. I can't remember one of those two. Yeah. So when I think about it, I remember putting together my PayPal link and everything and I was sitting

02:34 In an airport, we were on a trip with... At the time working for InfoWars. And I'm putting this together and I'm writing my note and I'm like, oh this notes got to be good because I'm going to be at night. And I put it all together and sent it off with literally 15 minutes to spare before midnight. And you know… I've also been a frequent visitor to North Idaho. Exactly. They happen to be Sir Scott the Jew, they happen to be up in where I go snowboarding in the wintertime so I'm always like hey I'm coming up can you do a meetup? Oh nice oh that's excellent! You know a lot of people have said I should probably have Sir Scott The Jew on the show and I guess that North Idaho show is doing okay people are talking about it a lot

03:29 Yeah, I've even tuned into it a couple times. Mainly just you know, I'm kind of like Idaho It's a pretty cool state although they are getting the influx of California people out from going into Boise but the rest of the state is really chill down to earth people. I should probably warn everybody that every single clip everything you hear today every news report Everything and I mean everything is directly related to the midterm elections. There is nothing that isn't being abused, isn't being taken apart, isn't being highlighted for the midterms. Everybody's got their... and of course the M5M is doing their best I do have one question for you before we get into some clips So our um We have an 11 year old refrigerator like a KitchenAid

04:26 And so the ice maker stopped working. And, you know I did my own little get the Gemini AI app out and say okay help me debug this and three hours later I've taken half of thing apart and then... I don't know he's probably called a repairman So I call the guy set it up with I think it's Sears And the guy comes out and he says, well you know there's something... You're gonna need a new door or whatever. But he said but you know you could get a new one but you really should go for the door I said why? He said because ever since right after COVID all the refrigerators have changed to a new refrigeration system and if you have this is what the Sears guy was telling me he says is you should look it up It's an upgrade Well no! The upgrade is they blow up

05:19 Oh, wow. Yeah that's quite a feature He says go look at it on YouTube and it is true there are people with the doors blown off There you know half their kitchen has exploded I'm like what is this all? He said no man if your going to get an old new one So you hadn't heard about this I had not. And when I moved, what's interesting when I moved into my first house in Austin we bought one in 99 and the people that were moving out were like we're going to leave you the refrigerator and they were like talking up this refrigerator it looked just like a rectangle was a basic refrigerator no ice maker no water know nothing but he said We had a repairman come out and look at him He said this refrigerators so well insulated he's never replace it just keep fixing

06:05 And we left it with the people that bought our house when we sold it years later. Apparently, that's a good one! Yeah, that's the way to go I just learned this and looking up on YouTube sure enough there's some lady you know oh look at my fridge and the whole kitchen has been blowed up so any refrigerated people out there in Gitmo Nation I'd love to know what is going on We got to now, I love my refrigerator just bleeds water from time to time. It'll just bleed it out from underneath like is just like it's dying and you're like, Oh, we should have towels underneath and then finally my wife is like, we need a new fridge but we are trying to think when we bought ours, I think it was, we didn't move till after 2021

06:45 So to the new house out in Driftwood. Now you're out in Driftwood? We might be due for an explosion! You're out in Driftwood with what like 18 children you got out there I mean, you got a whole compound, a whole family... Yeah, I've got four kids and each one of them, two of them drive now which is great um I guess if you know you like paying for car insurance Exactly And that's one of the things we make them do. We're like, you guys have to pay for your own car insurance and get a job if you want to drive and you want a car, you gotta pay for your own car insurance and cover everything else but two are older than two are younger and the two younger ones they

07:29 They're closer in age and we call them the grunions. They are a boy and girl, I have a younger girl. So yeah three boys and a girl but yeah it's a lot of fun every you know Every adventure that you could have, you know I've had with those kids. Tell me about it. Never ends with the kids So the first thing there's just and I think Darren and Larry talked about this if not on no previous show Maybe even the show before that but I got some boots on the ground to talk about it This is the unbelievable stinking Lincoln story welcome back just about the bottom of the hour so we've got some new reporting first here on MS now about the brutally demanding conditions service members are facing overseas as

08:12 as we wait for some resolution to the war with Iran. MS Now spoke with a dozen family members of sailors and Marines aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, who say they're extremely concerned about the morale safety and conditions on that ship. The 5,000 person crew has been at sea for nine straight months and engaged in combat operations since the beginning of the war against Iran all the way back in February Many family members describe their kids or spouses telling about non-operational toilets, moldy showers Laundry facilities that were broken for weeks and extended periods with no hot water for showering The families say their loved ones have described food shortages and standing in line at the ship's store for an hour or more even while it often lacks basic supplies like toothpaste soap

09:04 Oh no. So when I heard this, first of all, I remember going to Iraq in 2003 with the Dutch Marines and I'll tell you that I remember the hygiene situation was not great and it was a US base you know one toilet was working there was one other one if you had diarrhea, you go out of that toilet. And then these bags that you take showers in 50-60% of them didn't have hot water the rest were all kind of slimy and scummy and it's like

09:42 You think if you're in the desert, you put a black bag somewhere to collect with water in it and it heats up. That's what you do when your camping. You switch to that mode. Well and that is kind of the point this is like a war situation I'm like what is going on with all this? So of course they... This obviously a war that is not popular as any wars are popular A War Of Choice by President Trump And obviously everything's being misrepresented by our Secretary of War, Hegseth. Welcome in Senate Democrats are demanding answers about conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln Interesting only the Democrats are I mean there you go midterms right away Carrier station No one else cares

10:26 Richard Blumenthal says the carrier has been deployed for 250 days and has not come ashore in more than 200 days, setting a record. There are reports of problems on board the ship and two US officials confirmed to CBS News that a sailor from the USS Lincoln went overboard and was recovered safely Secretary Pete Hegseth says the reports of conditions on board are completely misrepresented completely misrepresented. We make sure that every ship, every crew, every captain has everything we can provide them at every single moment some deployments are longer than others and I have more respect and gratitude for those sailors

11:09 than anybody. What they do in those high seas, in those austere conditions with less port calls is incredible! Americans don't understand what it's like to do that so as someone who has not been on a ship like that but been on long deployments I feel it I want them home as soon as everybody else do. I want folks rotating quickly as possible, I want the best for them. My commanders know that our service secretaries know that the president expects that and so to that crew is all those crews we're gonna do everything we can for you and we are so grateful for their dedication of that crew and others they've held a line for the country and have done fantastic jobs." So we got there...we have several yeah

11:54 Well, he did a good job of shifting the focus there of you know thanking the troops instead of looking at what people were saying. I've seen some videos though of some of the soldiers like look how dirty it is! You know? I lived in apartments that were dirtier than that bro. It doesn't look that bad. Clean up after yourself. Like the toilet... Look i've seen some toilets ever go to Burning Man You open up one of these porta-potties, you will see a mountain of feces popping out of the toilet. That's how gross it is and I didn't see anything like that in any of these videos so to me if it's not even up to the Burning Man standard of grossness...you know..you could probably survive So we got boots on the ground from one of our naval aviators who I know personally so I take this at high confidence to be true Here's what he says First The longer your'e in the Navy The better you get at complaining

12:47 Everyone complains on deployment, which makes sense. Some complain because of issues experienced and some complain just for the sake of complaining bottom line if you complain and have a legitimate concern try to have it addressed at the correct level in your COC instead of wanking to your family and then them taking it directly to M5M keep in mind nobody actively serving on The Lincoln has any context of what the situation actually is. It's all hearsay and some videos and some posts. Second, every sailor aboard has a mailing address You can very easily mail them whatever they require. Ship Store has a very limited selection of products to choose from, very simple to go Walmart procure the items the sailor actually wants and mail it to him you can also mail food if you want so the complaint of running out of things such as soap and toothbrushes could be easily overcome with the sailor simply ask his or her family to mail this stuff to him Third deployments are the opposite of fun

13:46 Like, yeah this is a war situation. Sure after all is said and done you have some good stories and experiences to reflect on fondly but being on a huge boat for months for months on end doing the same job every single day regardless of weather or time of day is monotonous flight operations on a flight deck is also extremely dangerous and unforgiving jobs some people just can't adapt to that kind of environment You can't just up and quit on the spot like you can with a civilian job, so I'd imagine some folks feel trapped. Female sailors can get a free trip back home more easily than male sailors All they have to do is get pregnant and boom, you're on your way back home. Male sailors can't get pregnant, can just quit without having any repercussions so I imagine the person who caused the man overboard was looking for a way to get back home as soon as possible or had some pretty significant mental issues going on or combination of both. Man overboard drills happen all the time to test the crew's ability to quickly determine who is the missing person so they can positively identify who they are looking for once they locate that missing person

14:49 He's like he's writing a report for me. These drills are huge pain in the ass, but when it happens for real the drills demonstrate their value and then fourth unlivable conditions showers and toilets break all the time being on a warship in a war zone is not like living at a Marriott resort Much better than being in a tent or foxhole though because your rack is always dry and you're not under threat of enemies storming into your living quarters. The ship's company completes a rigid cleaning schedule daily and is responsible for the maintenance upkeep of the equipment, and the spaces Is there likely mold somewhere on a shower curtain? Or essentially a floating city shore! Is the crew responsible for this yes everyone can do better but this issue was best addressed at the deck plate leadership level And not broadcast all over the news

15:38 So he says, this is exactly what we started the show with. This is just to make Trump look bad and the war's no good and no wars are good obviously And actually this was... Much ado about nothing. Pretty much, I mean you know we have to have respect for our men and women in uniform because man it's a tough gig and certainly for nine months you know this is not easy here's I think this is some got some veterans. Yeah, I just got a boots on the ground report Okay, I gotta boots on it from up from our veteran he was in Vietnam as my father-in-law actually Earl who is uh who's listening now

16:20 I was in Vietnam for eight months, slept in a pup tent for three months during the rainy monsoon season. Period! Sailors are sissies. CBS News Senior National Security Correspondent Charlie Daggett joining us now so Charlie what do we know about the conditions on the USS Abraham Lincoln? Yeah, Juliette it's been described as austere. So these sailors and Marines have been at sea for a number of months we'll get into that in a moment but where the alarm bells started ringing was... Hold on hold on who describes those giant ship is austere? Like CBS News? No exactly yeah

16:59 So my parents are good sailors and Marines who started saying well, you know They've been there for a long time. They may not be getting the kind of rations or food that they want more importantly they're worried about the mental health of these individuals because I I want to point out that when you have an aircraft carrier like that, and I've been on that aircraft carrier the Abe Lincoln. We have it at sea. It's a different thing when its at sea and its war because this aircraft carrier was supposed to go to the Pacific and it had. It then turned right to go to the Middle East. It found itself in the middle of an active kinetic conflict zone. It has come under attack repeatedly defending those attacks

17:39 But when you're in a conflict zone like that, where you've got these fighter jets taking off from the deck. You're looking at 12 18 hour days constantly pushing these out and that is going to have a fatigue element on the airframes themselves, the aircraft carrier and the personnel. And that's what raised alarm bells among again, the parents, the families of these sailors and Marines on board saying this is a long deployment It's wearing down on the individuals who are part of that deployment and that's what rang alarm bells. So, The Military Times had a report

18:18 One individual had tried to jump overboard. As we reported and we confirmed, there was a rescue of somebody who had gone overboard. We're not inferring that that was intentional but there was a rescue there and that is why we're paying attention to Abraham Lincoln now. Now we spoke to the Navy. The Navy said the Marines and sailors on board are fully equipped with whatever they need to continue these operations Again, I have to drill down. This is not a normal deployment. This isn't an aircraft carrier at sea this is an aircraft carrier that's currently engaged in a war against Iran. Okay reasonably fair so they bring in couple of veterans. Joining me now from Honolulu Hawaii is retired US Navy Captain Carl Schuster he's the former director of operations

19:07 at the U.S. Pacific Command's Joint Intelligence Center, Pacific. Captain, great to see you! You are a veteran with decades in the Navy. What is your initial reaction when you hear that any ship has been at sea for more than 250 days? I think it is exceptionally difficult for the crew I never did more than 90 days at sea and i can tell you the minute you pass the 60 day mark, your feeling tired of deployment. It's not unusual. Certainly in my day, we had one or two guys try to jump overboard at about the 50-60 day mark. Being at sea on a carrier particularly in a stressful conflict situation is very intense. It places a very heavy psychological stress on you and physical

19:58 particularly for the guys in the propulsion spaces and the guys on the flight deck. Their work is very intense, very hard and very stressful and life in some cases very dangerous. And everyone eventually reaches a breaking point so we shouldn't condemn these guys. We should thank them for their service and give them all the help we can to get through the stress and situations they felt You know, and unlike your dad Earl, ITM Earl. That was a crazy war where it's like what are we doing? And this is... This is a war the way I see it to reset the oil structure of the entire world that's not even really for us and to reset the pricing of oil

20:48 But it's a real war and you know there is real danger involved. And all we're talking about is toothpaste and soap, It's the oddest thing! Of course the president weighed in when he was asked about it. Go ahead Mr President Is there enough food on USS Lincoln? Yeah that was a CNN fake report The Lincoln has been out there for a period of time, good period of time. But over the years we've had him out there much longer at a group meeting and an admiral came up to see me over the weekend. And it was in a big group that he happened to be an admiral retired. He said I've been on ships are out there much longer than that sir. And I know people on the Lincoln they say is beautifully maintained and beautifully taken care

21:36 And other people went out and they found out that it was fake news reporting from CNN. There you go! It's a big beautiful ship, it's fake news, fake news... How long is too long? family members of US service members are concerned about the conditions on board the USS Pink. Well, no that ship is moving other than that ship is moving right now or very shortly and it's being replaced with another very similar ship. No, no, not nearly long enough. Thank you everybody Not nearly long enough. And here is uh... We need him out there longer! Yeah, here's the Navy Secretary Families of service members from USS Abraham Lincoln Strike Group are voicing their concerns over mental health and safety conditions aboard the aircraft carrier It's after multiple reported attempts by crewmembers to jump overboard

22:28 The USS Lincoln has been deployed for nearly nine months after it was redirected to support U.S operations with the war with Iran Yesterday, President Donald Trump answered questions about the extended deployment That ship is moving right now or very shortly and it's being replaced with another very similar ship Has this deployment gone on too long? No no no Not nearly long enough Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Kau releasing a statement too saying the media has tried to paint the soldiers on board as victims, saying quote there's no question our young men and women have been pushed their limits but they have never broken. It's clear knowing the whole story our force and their families are not victims they are the epitome of American strength and resilience

23:14 Now, of course I'm here in Fredericksburg home of Admiral Nimitz so i can't really get on board with the all sailors are sissies. My grandfather was a lieutenant commander in the South Pacific he was gone for years you know he ran one of those crappy horrible bases on the islands So respect to all of them but this is just about making Trump look bad making the war look bad which it is No doubt about it. Wars are no good. Oh yeah, and anything you can find to augment that... And I go back to these videos that they sent out the toilets looked a little dirty the showers looked maybe there's some mold in the corners but you know i got mold in the corner of my shower at home and well not the end of the world! I'm not taking a shower at your place Rob

24:03 What did you bring? Well, it's just a little bit in the corner. Yeah sure what did you bring? You brought all kinds of clips! I brought all kinds of clips but i just found one when hearing about all these people jumping off uh...I'm gonna send you this and we could play a couple these other clips and I don't really have anything about the war necessarily yeah I mean I'm looking through my Yeah, but there's this marine drill instructor video and it's this marine drill instructor that kind of looks like the actress who became an actor who is real small. I forget her name but she played one of the X-Men at one point. And this drill instructor looks like a

24:51 uh, like real skinny and talking about if you feel bad. You know? Let us know if we're mean to you and this is the Marines. This isn't the I'm S I'm sending it to you now. I don't know if she'll get this, but if you do get this, I just put a gibberish headline in there, but I just sent it to the food bar email. I didn't put the whole thing out there so no one else will spam you. But when you hear this drill instructor talk, you're like, Oh my god, this is the mindset that's in our military and it's social justice warrior out the wazoo. And, you know I have nothing against...I think- I love our men and women in the military. I'm glad they're out there doing this stuff but there is such a thing as too much whining and you know I think older people put up with it more because we didn't have all the comforts that people have now when we were younger it was drink out of the water hose You know? It wasn't uh..You're gonna have filtered water here's your ice How old are you Rob? Here's your little chair

25:54 I'm 52 so I've been around. I've been around the 80s and 90s, you know? I know my way around there very well. Elliot Page is that who it was? Life wasn't... Elliot Page? Elliot Page yes. Thank You Robin. So this drill instructor looks like Elliot page and uh I just sent you the mp3 I don't know if it came through or not but um Just play a little bit of that fairness, dignity and compassion. This is total or verbal abuse by Indian Marines or recruits. For that be tolerated! If anyone should abuse or mistreat you I expect you to report such incidents immediately to me! Set the stage for me what am i hearing here?

26:37 All right, if you were to watch this video it is a rail thin I believe it's a female. I can't tell if it's a female or male because the chest is very flat very skinny and with the Marine drill sergeant hat on walking back and forth talking to recruits telling them if they've been mistreated you will report it we're not going to touch you where we will treat you with respect. The exactly opposite of what you've seen in every other movie Or heard reports about when people go to boot camp, you know. You're a maggot! We're gonna build... they call it basic training because they build you from the ground up. They're like we're going to teach you how to wipe your butt or we're gonna teach you how to walk. We're gonna teach you how to make your bed and The way this is when I hear these sailors bitch about their ship

27:25 I think of this marine drill instructor, which this video came out in the beginning of August. So it's just now you know it's been circulating for less than a month but you're hearing this and its like you will report. Furthermore if you thought that I had mistreated you, I expect you to report this incident to your serious commander. I have told you what my joint sectors and I will do. From you, we demand a follow through! You will give 100% of your salary to the people who are in power? Well, you know it's and it's really I don't think it's the sailors aren't complaining It's the families who are and have we seen many of them or is it more just like I spoke to some? Families and here's what they say. That's that's what it sounded like to me well And its anonymous its anonymous You know photos it's like point-of-view here. Here's the toilet here's the shower how can we live like this? um you know and I think one of them showed a

28:21 a backed up toilet at one point because I started looking through these when they started coming out. Well, let's see how bad this is because I've seen some bad toilets in my life and I'm like okay this isn't that... This isn't that bad. I'm sure it sucks being you know hit with drones and hit with missiles and all whatever else was going on there And I don't think we're getting the real reports on that and i think that's what might be going on the stress of that yeah Combined you know these people are you know reporting back in their families are going? Oh, you know We got to do something about this. We got to go to the media and You know I think it's probably partisan at you know the people that are complain well Let's let's check in with the war itself as there have been a few developments

29:04 Nice nice nat pop by the way good job guys. Oh, yeah Unable to put an end to the Iran war President Trump today threatened to expand it issuing a blunt and profane warning to a U.S. ally, Oman saying he would bomb the expletive out of them if they interfered with US objectives in the critical Strait of Hormuz Would you say you're out of patience with Oman? No I don't think they behaved very well but we handled that very easily just like we do others The threat comes as ship traffic through the strait is at a virtual standstill This comes as U.S. military officials are scrambling to respond to a Trump social media post over the weekend that condemned planned joint exercises with South Korea In the post, which blindsided US military leaders Trump cited his quote very good relationship with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un and called the drills inappropriate and hostile toward North Korea

30:03 and said they would be scaled back. And today he suggested he's recently been in contact with Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong Un has always treated me with great respect Though it is widely believed North Korea has provided military support to Iran And today had been the deadline for the U.S.- Those guys are busy, they're providing military support to Iran, they're providing military support to Ukraine- The North Koreans man, they're all over the place. They're everywhere! Everywhere! Though it's widely believed North Korea has provided military support to Iran And today had been the deadline for the US and Iran to finalize a nuclear agreement, and come to a permanent end of the conflict. But David that agreement never came close to happening, and there is no end in sight to the war. The Iranians today said that peace deadline quote is no longer relevant

30:56 So there is a shift in strategy and luckily we're bringing out the general patent on the down low to do it all. New CNN reporting says Trump told top administration officials today to stop conversations with Iran, according to US official A source says White House officials have recently communicated to political allies that they are shifting their strategy going from hammer Iran ASAP to strangle them over time Now, the sounds of silence may not fall pleasantly on the ears of Republicans who are growing quite impatient with Trump's unpopular war. They're worried it will hurt them in the... Which war has been popular Jake Topper? Is there a war that has ever really been popular like yeah this is a good war! Now, the sounds of silence may not fall pleasantly on the ears of Republicans who are growing quite impatient with Trump's unpopular war

31:49 They are worried it will hurt them in the midterms, especially because just yesterday Trump says his administration had established a back channel with Iran. Iran denied that any back-channel talks with the United States were taking place as for Trump's claim today about no talks happening That is not what Trump son-in-law special envoy Jared Kushner told Fox just yesterday I will say that the conversations between the US government and different areas of the Iranian government at all areas is probably more robust than it's maybe ever been. And so there has been a lot of good dialogues, which i think is very helpful right? We are having very positive and active conversations

32:31 Then there's the messy situation in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump also wrote on Truth Social, quote, The naval blockade remains in full force and effect. The Hormuz Strait is open and operating all water mines have been removed or detonated unquote We've heard Trump say this many times before despite slow lagging ship traffic And Iran asserting otherwise In fact global oil prices are now at their highest level since July as hopes of a resolution for this conflict fade away That said, it does appear as though the United States is gaining some control over the strait. The 60-day deadline to finalize a peace deal expired yesterday so now the future overall is in limbo I'm just going to play this clip again from Treasury Secretary Scott Besant

33:19 Yeah, before you do that Axios who seems to be like the back channel to the president at this point they have an article on US conducting stealth operation transports through Hormuz about 10 million barrels a day they're getting through. So there is something to that where they are still getting oil through even though that seems to me... The news doesn't want to report that well Except, it's so odd that Axios is now a back channel to the White House. Oh I know! That was unexpected. Who owns that outfit? He did something there... You know, I think we looked at it before or you looked at it before on the show because it happened a few months ago where Trump started dibbling out information through Axios

34:10 and maybe we should ask Cox Enterprises. 70% stake. Cox? From like the cable company, Cox? Yeah, Cox Enterprise. Yeah that's what it looks like. Cox Enterprise a large family and conglomerate well that would make sense because they owned a bunch of those TV stations that were more or less, you know in red states. So that kind of would make sense." I think you're absolutely right although the numbers differ but well actually here's the latest on the numbers coming through the straits. The war with Iran is in its sixth month and oil is still struggling to move through the Strait of Hormuz President Trump tried bombing Iran into submission now he's pivoting to economic warfare

34:52 In a lengthy post, he announced in all caps quote the most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country. And he called on allies to stand with the US to unleash Economic D-Day as he called it on Iran. With us to talk about this is NPR international correspondent Eya Batraoui. Good morning, Eya! Good morning. So this crushing economic operation that Trump posted about do we know what this would look like? I mean, more of the same sanctions, the existing blockade and even more pressure now. He's calling on allies around the world countries around to join him in his isolation of Iran and we've seen maximum economic pressure before by President Trump you'll recall this was his policy the first time he wasn't office but this is

35:35 step beyond because now there is that naval blockade in place and it is blocking Iran from being able to export its oil. And this pivot from bombings to blockade comes as AAA says gas prices in the US are up 30% on average from a year ago, so in many states people are paying $1 or more per gallon than they were diesel for trucks and jet fuel for flying are even higher Now, that is because of Iran's chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz since the beginning of this war. Windward Maritime Intelligence Tracking says 5 million barrels of oil a day did exit the strait on average per day in July but that is a fraction of 20 million barrels going through before the war

36:15 that no one reports on is the whole so I'm gonna go let's say it's seven and a half but 20 used to go through there Axios reports 10. That's probably padded from the White House this is NPR, I think they say five, but there's another seven going through the pipelines. Every single one of these Arab countries has completely bypassed the strait they've already had pipelines they're fast-tracking new pipelines and this has always been the strategy here's Besant. At Treasury we did economic fury what goes a little publicized is on the kinetic side Air Force was wiped out, Navy's wiped out.

36:59 a big portion of their missiles, more importantly their missile production. On the economic side we have them by the throat and they've got 150-180% food inflation not able to pay the troops so I think shortly maybe even today tomorrow we are going to see an agreement 30 60 day ceasefire The straight will be open, energy prices should come down. There are some who have speculated the straight will never go back to being the way it was before. What would you say? I think they're saying that in a doomsday sort of way. I would say it another way. The straight is never going back to the way it was because the Iranians have used

37:51 or tried to use it as a choke point. What we are going to see over the next two years, the strait's gonna become irrelevant. It is going to become just another body of water and I would say that more than 50% or 70% of the energy that moves through the strait now is gonna go through underground pipelines. There it is! There it is, pipelines. I can't wait to go wake surfing in the Straits of Hormuz. A fine Texas tradition! I love wake surfing. It's one of my favorite things to do in Texas and there's more oil...I mean it's not exactly the same oil but it's important oil

38:30 Venezuela's energy leaders say the country is open for business. This week, U.S oil companies signed some of the first deals with Venezuela in close to two decades this comes eight months after the US seized Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro Houston Public Media's Energy Reporter Natalie Weber has been reporting on this and she joins us from Houston good morning Natalie Good morning so I recall that after the u.s. Good morning. So I recall that after the US captured Maduro, oil companies were hesitant to get involved with Venezuela but now they're involved give us a sense of what's in these deals

39:11 Yeah, so the Dallas-based Hunt Oil Company entered into a contract to expand the country's oil and gas production. And then SLB formerly known as Schlumberger, a Houston oil field services company also signed an agreement for oil exploration in Venezuela. And Venezuela's oil minister Paula Henao announced this deal on state run media. These deals were signed on Tuesday while Venezuelan leaders were in Houston for an energy conference And I attended the conference in Houston where I now spoke this week. She says the country has made changes to its laws that will make it easier for foreign companies to invest in Venezuela.

39:51 What she's saying right now is that the country's agreements with US companies offer a chance to evaluate opportunities for investment in Venezuela. Now at this time we don't really know how much these deals are worth, that hasn't been made public yet. And then we have another oil... gateway reopening or finally opening. It's sort of like the zombie pipeline project that will never die Donald Trump is raising the prospect of reviving the ill-fated Keystone XL pipeline and Jatin Da Silva, former CEO of Canada Energy Regulator says with a US president backing it, the zombie pipeline could have a new life If the U.S President puts his weight in the weight of his office behind it, it is possible to see this project

40:35 Trump posted on truth social the great Keystone XL pipeline long ago killed by sleepy Joe Biden May be awoken from the grave. I thought it was actually a welcome comment because it actually adds potentially some leverage to mr Carney that he might not otherwise have had Dennis McConaughey is a former Canadian energy executive. He says the long dead pipeline could help the Prime Minister secure a new trade deal with the US The value to Canada of producing more heavy oil over the next decades is, is the driving force economically behind this and when Trump signaled it last night again It underscores that fact that Americans recognize the value of that trade

41:19 and would want more of it if they could get it. I think that's the whole center of this new deal that the president is working on with Canada, all about this. Well he did a three-day tariff on them to get him come to the table for that. We're going to do a three day tariff? Is what you do! And we'll see what happens... I love how the press is like, oh it's the ill-fated, it's a zombie pipeline. It's this terrible thing. Pipelines are how you want to move things honestly because... One, it's self-contained. You know where it's going to be you don't have a bunch of trucks on the road which could especially with some of our truck drivers now who are from unsuspecting backgrounds they could be crashing into people so I think that's the way to go and everything has sensors on it now So they know when its leaking They know where it is leaking They can dispatch a team to fix it

42:16 It's going to be sitting in the wilderness for 10 years, you know, globbing oil out onto the ground. Leaking away... Yeah, leaking away. You know what's crazy? They're not letting that happen! Tina and I have been watching the West Wing. We started an episode, well actually we started with the pilot And when you watch this...I think we're in season four or five at this point? I don't know then it just it remains kind of interesting but it's clear You know This is clearly a Democrat White House and all of the things they discuss almost everything are things that President Trump is doing

42:55 But then it was seen as heroic. Oh, and they're but they're discussing it like they might fix it but they're not really gonna fix that yeah I mean the whole thing is just it's crazy like even with the you know the whole FCC We're gonna we're gonna take away your license. I think I have a okay Yeah So there's a there's a moment in In The West Wing where the three television, the big networks ABC CBS NBC they come in the White House and I say yeah we're not going to cover the conventions. We're gonna do maybe 45 minutes will do the balloon drop but we're not going to cover them wall-to-wall like we have before and so there's this actually Ron Silver plays a consultant

43:48 And he talks to Leo, who's the president... what do you call it? The chief of staff. And this is Martin Sheen who's the president right? Yeah, Martin Sheen is the president. Actually no, he talks to... What's his face?... The other guy. Anyway doesn't matter and and he goes back to networks and says You get these licenses for free, you're not acting in the best interest. You are colluding together I'm gonna have the FCC take your licenses away and that at the time was like yeah That's how you deal with them And now it's like oh no bias you just don't like him reporting negatively on you It's the exact same thing

44:33 It is. And I think if Obama or Biden was like, we're going to take these licenses away there they're paying playing too much white supremacist content on these networks you know people be like yes yes that's it You know the news they read oh for it Oh this whites of which I have a couple of those clips but I do have a clip you were talking about the war and when we get out of this I think a good place to leave his Trump talking about leaving NATO I think that's a big That could be a really big deal for just that access over there in Western Europe and they're, you know they think they have carte blanche protection from us. And if Trump pulls out of that which I don't think will happen i think it's just a bunch of bravado but he's saying it no one said since NATO has been formed we are going to get out of NATO He is the only person actually say that he could get out. I think that NATO made a terrible mistake when they wouldn't send

45:28 a small amount of military armament when they wouldn't send just even acknowledge what we were doing for the world and taking on Iran. I never considered it very risky, but war is always risk you know? A lot of Strange happened to think things happen in war that very bad, but but I didn't consider it. I know how great on we're the greatest military by far anywhere There was nobody close. I didn't think there was a big risk But there's always surprises with war they could be very bad surprises. I mean wars are lost It should be one many wars are lost you think our country is gonna wipe somebody out and they end up getting wiped out themselves So it's always risky

46:13 But I think a tremendous mistake was... Wow, that's actually what he says right there is accurate and oh Quran. Wars are lost it should be won many wars are lost you think A country is gonna wipe somebody out and they end up getting wiped out themselves so it's always risky but I think a tremendous mistake was when NATO just wasn't there They just weren't there It's gonna make a lot of money for the United States because we spent hundreds of billions of dollars a year on NATO Hundreds protecting them and we would have always been there for them. But now based on their actions I guess we don't have to be doing well what he said there? Yeah, I've been saying four months is an actual possibility certainly with what's going on between

47:01 Ukraine and Russia. This happened last night. Overseas now to Ukraine launching a massive drone assault on Russia, this is one of the largest aerial attacks since the four-year old war began let's get right to ABC's Lama Hassan. Lama what more are you learning tonight? Yeah Lindsay this was a massive attack the Russian Defense Ministry saying it destroyed more than 800 Ukrainian drones overnight Moscow's mayor adding that some Six hundred drones were detected heading toward the Russian capital, shooting down a third of them. But still at least seven people across Russia were killed. Wildberries which is Russia's largest online retailer hit again one of its massive warehouses on fire. Russia fighting back sending a wave of drones killing at least five people destroying a market

47:45 In the Ukrainian capital Kiev, the Ukrainian defense minister believes their ballistic missiles will be able to reach Russian territory in three to six months. So there seems to be no end in sight to the fighting Lindsay what is clear that these latest strikes are a dramatic escalation in this war. You know Ukraine is not a member of NATO and they're really just being put on the front line by the Europeans and the UK. And now Moscow is saying, you know, hey, you know, you UK guys this is not going to fly. Moscow has threatened Britain with consequences following confirmation that U.K. has supplied Ukraine with drones that have been used hit targets deep inside Russia as we've been hearing Kiva's launching an increasing number of drone attacks across Russia particularly on infrastructure targets

48:41 Some reports suggest this is the first time British technology has been used to hit Russian targets. This follows newspaper reports the weekend that for the first time drone technology from the UK was used in these strikes against Russia, confirmed from sources to the BBC. Now some of those reports talked about strikes on oil facilities in southern Russia, Yaroslavl near Moscow what the Russian embassy here in London has put out is a statement saying that London is deliberately operating acting for escalation in Ukraine. So the UK was trying to contain Russia, inflict maximum damage on it by a proxy and those actions will inevitably carry consequences for which London will have to answer now in response we've heard from the Ministry of Defence here

49:27 They have put out their own statement. The Ministry of Defence spokesperson saying Britain stands shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine, it will continue to supply Ukraine with the equipment it needs to defend itself against what they say is Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Russia should be in no doubt about the resolve of the government to stand against Russian aggression and that's also message that Andy Burnham, the Prime Minister delivered his first foreign visitor here when he became prime minister a few weeks ago was President Zelensky of Ukraine and he said he would stand shoulder to shoulder with him. Yeah man when you hit the Amazon of Russia that's when people start to lose it. Can you imagine if they hit Amazon in America? We'd go crazy!

50:08 And you're getting updates. Yeah, your package done blowed up and that's it and It'll be another three to six weeks You know going back to what Trump was saying? You know a country thinks they're gonna annihilate somebody in the end up losing You know you could look at that as he talking about the US or is he talking about Israel because Israel kind of wanted this war more than anybody it seems like and They might end up they might even end up on B on the back into this other stick of this at the end especially with, you know I guess it was Benjamin Netanyahu who was like screamed out of Parliament. They were shouting him out and so there's definitely turmoil going on everywhere Yeah here is the latest The United States and Syria have condemned Israeli airstrikes on a military airport in northern Syria The runway at Abu al-Dhahour Airport that is located in the eastern Idlib countryside has been damaged Multiple fighter jets were heard in that area That's ahead of the strikes

51:04 and no injuries have been reported. But in a statement the US Special Envoy for Syria, that's Tom Barrack said we're deeply concerned that the confirmed Israeli air strikes on Abu Dhur Air Base constitute an unnecessary escalation that doesn't advance regional stability The Al-Sharaa government has neither adopted a predatory posture nor maintained proxy forces It has in fact repeatedly indicated a preference for deescalation with Israel I think Trump's dropping support for Israel. He's like not even talking about them... Yeah, he is not endorsing Netanyahu either for re-election. When are the elections?

51:48 I couldn't tell you. All i know is October 19th is the referendum for Alberta to start the process for independence We'll take you guys, come on we're happy to have ya Exactly The Keystone Pipeline's all American now It just kinda goes up in there and then we just give an oil to everybody cheap Breaking news FBI raids home of Eric Swallowswell did you see that? No! Oh no. What do you got? You got a quad screen up there, Rob? What are you looking at and I didn't hear any of that. I don't see it. It came out at 2 13 p.m Eastern so just less than an hour ago federal agencies electronic devices of former Democratic Rep Swallowswell or Swallow, well I call him Swallowswell but uh... At the San Francisco airport on Saturday and then raided his home in Washington DC the next day as part of an ongoing probe on sexual assault allegations

52:44 You see, nothing about with the Chinese spy or any of that stuff. It's sexual assault. That's how they always get you. Of course not. It's never anything real when I say real it's nothing like... It's always sex stuff. Exactly, it's never about anything that they could have done against the country What I find interesting is that the whole Israel narrative has just kind of disappeared certainly here in Texas but if you just look online maybe its only my algo but all I see is Muslims, Muslims, Muslims Islam Sharia law and everyone else except for Tucker he still behind the times

53:23 He's still wallowing away. And I got this clip from Judge Knapp Napolitano with, how is it? Is it the Blumenthal kid, I think? I mean, moaning about the same thing. This was the decoy flight. Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom today is Thursday August 13th 2026 Max Blumenthal joins us now. Max a pleasure as always thank you for joining us Has Israel manipulated Donald Trump yet again? What is the backstory

54:01 on the so-called Israeli intelligence about the so called Iranian plans to attack Air Force One. Well, if we look at this story, we can kind of see a microcosm of how the entire war on Iran unfolded. This is why the US is still imposing a protracted war on Iran right now, primarily an economic war which has devastated the global economy. And you know ask anyone in real estate in the United States about interest rates right now and it goes directly back to this war so why did this happen? It's because Israel manipulated a demented intellectually unchallenged, intellectually challenged

54:47 immoral, deeply corrupt president into waging this war over a period of years. So okay so Israel manipulated them into waging an economic war because that makes sense? Everyone is now finally talking in the mainstream media about this campaign of manipulation Everyone knows now that Trump was hidden in a food, kind of like a food cart sneaking out to a decoy flight in Ankara Turkey. It's a contortionist. Around the NATO summit which is like a scene out of one of these Leslie Nielsen naked gun movies. Can you imagine him huddled in there sweating and orange sweat pouring off his face?

55:35 You're behind boys. That's what I'm imagining. We know that's not what happened, you know? But the memes were funny of Trump peeking out of the food court and stuff like that Those were pretty funny but you know that's not how it happened It reminded me of Def Leppard In...I don't know 90 maybe 90 or 91 Def Leppard did a tour in The Round And MTV sent me out to go cover him in, man I want to say Atlanta. The Omni, yeah I think it was the Omni in Atlanta. Think so! I can't remember what it was...

56:18 And they were in the round, so there's audience on all sides. And the way they got the band from the dressing room into underneath the stage was in these big laundry carts. So before the lights went down you see these folks just push along these laundry carts and then the guys got out and that's kind of how I imagined this, the way the memes were working is like yeah we're just hiding them there But everything the press is that's what they did with David Lee Roth. Well, here's another story in the Edelman smile tour They get him from one side from the stage to the back to ride the surfboard across the audience He rides his giant surfboard and that's how they had him in a road case You know but it was a big road case probably had a seat in it probably had

57:07 you know, some Jack Daniels and a fan and whatnot. And they pushed him over there and then he floated across the crowd on a surfboard. Then of course the press was mad. While Steve Vai was playing an amazing solo The press was mad because they were on the plane and this is more midterm stuff Oh yeah! You know because he wanted Marco Rubio to die. Marco Rubio knowingly goes on the flight which was supposedly going to be targeted by IRGC operatives with man pads according to a certain tip the CIA received, along with all the Trump staffers we know and disdain. And they're all gonna be sent to their deaths according to this tip except for Donald Trump and what's that woman? Natalie Harpe who escorts him everywhere who is 35 he chose her to survive with him on his own. And he chose Hollywood Hegseth

58:02 And Pete Hegseth, yeah because he's the ultimate guest man who apparently had just lied to him about munitions but he still chose him to live. That's a good one Hollywood Hegseth gotta keep it in there Meanwhile we hit 40 trillion dollars in debt this is uh this is a lot of money here's the headline report What did we win? I said, what do we win? No. We won 40 trillion. Did we win anything? Fun prizes! America's debt is bigger than ever. The federal debt hit a record $40 trillion this week and experts say it's not just the size of the debt that we should be worrying about but the speed at which its rising. The national debt rose one trillion dollars in just the past five months. The federal government spending continues to outpace the revenue it collects

58:49 How did we get here? A big factor is that the nation is aging. More people are retiring and senior citizens are living longer The government is spending more on Social Security and Medicare, but there are fewer workers to support those programs Also Congress has passed multiple packages that cut taxes spending over the last few decades. That includes packages like the One Big Beautiful Bill Act of 2025 and several COVID-19 pandemic relief bills. These measures are projected to increase the federal debt by trillions of dollars over time as the U.S. slips further into a debt hole The government could have a harder time funding other priorities. The U.S is already spending more on interest payments than national defense or children's programs It could also push up rates for mortgages, auto loans and business borrowing making things tougher for consumers and businesses alike So something interesting happened yesterday all of the sudden the long-term interest rate started coming down

59:49 as the Treasury started purchasing back our bonds. And this is quantitative easing. Well, I think they're calling it now that it's not quantitative easing because quantitative easing the way I understand it is when you're buying securities in the market This is mine and this is buying the debt. I think it may be called monetizing a debt So, you know, I guess we have extra trillions in Treasury That have been building up there's quite a lot of money that was built up and now were buying that, buying the debt back which lowers the yield. This bond stuff is complicated but that all... That is what mortgages and you know that is really what lowers interest on all kinds of things and the thing that's fun about it is anyone who's a Bitcoiner holy moly have you been following that?

1:00:48 No, did it jump? Oh yeah. It was what about 60 thousand last time I looked at it It was around...it was hovering for gosh about two months between 62 and 64 thousand right now its 72 and a half almost Did Alex Jones ever find his 10,000 Bitcoin that Max Keiser gave him you know I remember I remember when Max came, I remember when he came to the office and I think Bitcoin was $5. And he's like you gotta buy Bitcoin! You gotta buy Bitcoin! This is like 2010 or 11 and uh...and i was buying silver which didn't quite have the power that bitcoin had but we searched for this mythical laptop and we could never locate it. And um..I don't think it existed

1:01:39 There was a dinner and there was talk of putting money on our Bitcoin on a laptop, and then it didn't happen. That's what I think because I wasn't on that trip had i been on that trip I might have made it happen. I could have saved everybody but no we could have been living large baby we're left with nothing I'll be hanging out at the mansion Hanging out in the mask the days of steak and plenty could have continued so Simultaneously I felt to me it felt coordinated. There was a big crypto Announcement, I despise crypto crypto which to me is just there's Bitcoin There's everything else and the president came out And he spoke for a lot of very good very honorable financial people

1:02:24 On day one, we fired Joe Biden's rogue SEC chair Gary Gensler. I think we like Paul better do we agree? We'd like Paul? Number one he is smarter He's also smarter by the way, but we fired him. We got him to hell out of here We terminated the so-called operation choke point 2o which is what the name of their? Operation was weaponization and we ended the war on crypto once and for all And it's been booming It's been doing big and nobody has been able to break in China would like to break in there still trying But they have been able to I signed a historic executive order banning any attempt to create a central bank digital currency

1:03:06 We launched project crypto to modernize rules so that our financial markets can move into blockchain technology. I established the United States strategic Bitcoin reserve, making bitcoin a permanent asset of the United States Treasury which has turned out incredibly well. I also created the United States digital assets stockpile to hold custody of all other digital assets and that's exactly what it's done. It's been amazing One year ago this summer I signed landmark legislation known as the Genius Act. I named it after myself, I didn't want anyone to...I didn't want to use my name so i just called the Genius Act paving the way for widespread adoption of dollar-backed stable coins and that's worked out very well every... Yeah there are stable coins thats still a big deal people don't wanna listen but thats how we're

1:03:59 remaining the reserve currency of the world, you can go on Shopify and they'll take stablecoins. No one in America has them but I think there's 300 million people using them around the world including Iran Yeah, I just want to say that what Chairman Selleck and Chairman Atkins are doing and the president has enabled with his leadership is actually working. So if you look at stablecoin usage and adoption it's increasing the usage in distribution of the US dollar at higher and higher levels than our industry has ever seen specifically because of The Genius Act

1:04:37 and the movement of more and more treasuries into stable coins, and therefore into more and more hands across the world. And now the tokenization of equities thanks to Chairman Selleck's and Chairman Atkins' great work and collaboration in actual you know work together rather than working against each other as before is going to distribute U.S. equities globally and increase the distribution of those So, you know we power a lot of these applications and companies so we know what the numbers actually are and they're massively increasing because we have regulators in leadership that enables the success and distribution Of these US based assets. So there's actually a very real intangible outcome That's really now benefiting the u.s

1:05:19 adoption of option of US issued assets and the u.s. dollar so I just want to mention that it really is working yes and hitting all-time highs thank you very much stable coin can hit all time highs this it's equal to a dollar but okay so during this car right then always go ahead Well, I'm looking at CoinDesk now and they're saying Mark Connors is an analyst. And he's saying this is the start of Bitcoin going up to 180. And then cycling through 2030 saying 180-360 which is like out of this world if you are holding Bitcoin or if you had it on a laptop given to you by Max Keiser many years ago which unfortunately no one has. So the president pivoted at a certain point and went to AI

1:06:09 And I've really been interested in first the, I mean, I understand why people are against AI. People who are coming and all we've heard from the marketing arm of these so-called frontier model companies OpenAI and Anthropic and I guess to an extent Google is, well you're not going to have a job. It's all over forget about it so graduating kids are booing the commencement speaker data centers are somehow in some odd way people have connected this to flock cameras which are obviously no good

1:06:52 And I hear constantly, well you know this is the data centers that are going to store all of our information. The surveillance state... I don't like the surveillance state! That's on your Instagram but okay so these data centers have become a real problem now two reasons three reasons one farmland is being sold Turned into a massive data center structures. People think that it's taking lots of water, I don't believe that. I think they're pretty much closed systems and not draining reservoirs The electricity is interesting though But anyway this came up in this crypto announcement

1:07:31 Yes, please. I have two quick questions. Go ahead. So my first question is we're talking about AI and crypto a lot and you won overwhelmingly with working class Americans in 2024 tens of millions of working right Americans many of them they say We love President Trump but were still cautious about AI and crypto What do you say to those who are still resident red reticent to embrace this evolution? so I think it's gonna it's a great question And I think it's going to create a lot of great quite a creative success It's going to create tremendous innovation medically. I mean, they're coming up with already amazingly They came out with something today that I looked at it having to do I won't go into the details But having to deal with a pretty unstoppable disease and all of us on there Coming up with answers that they never thought were possible and things that they never even would have thought about So I think it's really creating jobs And I can tell you one thing

1:08:19 If you look at our construction jobs right now, because we're building more plants factories Things that really have something to do with the AI but also car factories car plants. They're moving into our country Honda just announced Toyota just announced they're moving their operations from Mexico from Canada from other places We by the way probably have a deal with Canada You probably saw that we We're going to be doing a lot of work on the construction jobs.

1:09:01 and I had a chance to get the big plant in an AI plant or data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs are enormous. And the money paid, the taxes paid are just enormous. If you don't take it, you're going to be left behind because there's plenty of places that want it." So I would say that maybe it can use a little public relations help. But if I were governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community and many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. It's really very positive. Okay? Thank you. I agree with what the president is saying but not for the same reasons or maybe similar reasons. First of all, the amount of money that has gone into building data centers which won't be completed for at least another three years

1:09:45 It is an enormous transfer of wealth from Wall Street and hedge funds, and just big pools of money. I think directly to the people if they would stop complaining about it... And these things are going to be empty! They're not gonna work. Most of them won't be turned on. You can just see it there's no power for it It's absolutely not enough power to even... You need a lot of graphics cards available though. I can't wait for that moment when all the Nvidia cards become available, but there is just no way these are going to be turned on so if you've got $100 million or $200 million data center being built take the money! Get your kids electricians

1:10:37 construction workers, they have an enormous shortage. Take the money now that's at least good for two or three years just take it now because nothing else is going to come from it and I got the chairman of... It's like most things, it's a boondoggle as you go into it They over promise, under deliver. And then you're going to be left with these giant air conditioned rooms that are going to be kind of running at half speed because there's just not... There's so many of them built there's just not enough data for them unless this tokenization that they keep talking about how they're going to tokenize everything maybe that's what these data centers... They're not for flak cameras. They're actually two track

1:11:23 everything that you know BlackRock's talking about, oh we're going to tokenize the water or we're going to tokenize the trees. They want to... You know in that sense you could see the data centers being used as a tracking mechanism but it's not necessarily tracking people its tracking everything in the world. Every leaf on the tree so to speak. Well maybe I think it'll be great for Bitcoin mining and gyms. I think there'll be lots of nice gyms that we'll have, and this is happening in Texas at an incredible scale. And I found this interview with the chairman of the Energy Committee here in Texas. He's a good old boy but he had some really interesting insights into exactly what's going on with these data centers in Texas and about the power. So if you'd have any questions... No, I'm sorry that's not it

1:12:12 Where is it? This is the guy. Here we go. So, it's a big committee. It's a big job but on the data center front I can tell you this when when I got named chair of state affairs um of course met with public utility commission and ERCOT And, you know, ERCOT is the managing body of the state grid. Everyone needs to understand ERCOT is like an exchange like a stock exchange for power in Texas has its own grid and so that's where people buy and sell futures on power they go to get power immediately That's another thing we stopped talking about, the big energy storage systems. That used to be another political thing that has gone away What about those military-age men from China? Are they still here with their sleeper cells?

1:11:23 everything that you know BlackRock's talking about, oh we're going to tokenize the water or we're going to tokenize the trees. They want to... You know in that sense you could see the data centers being used as a tracking mechanism but it's not necessarily tracking people its tracking everything in the world. Every leaf on the tree so to speak. Well maybe I think it'll be great for Bitcoin mining and gyms. I think there'll be lots of nice gyms that we'll have, and this is happening in Texas at an incredible scale. And I found this interview with the chairman of the Energy Committee here in Texas. He's a good old boy but he had some really interesting insights into exactly what's going on with these data centers in Texas and about the power. So if you'd have any questions... No, I'm sorry that's not it

1:12:12 Where is it? This is the guy. Here we go. So, it's a big committee. It's a big job but on the data center front I can tell you this when when I got named chair of state affairs um of course met with public utility commission and ERCOT And, you know, ERCOT is the managing body of the state grid. Everyone needs to understand ERCOT is like an exchange like a stock exchange for power in Texas has its own grid and so that's where people buy and sell futures on power they go to get power immediately That's another thing we stopped talking about, the big energy storage systems. That used to be another political thing that has gone away What about those military-age men from China? Are they still here with their sleeper cells?

1:13:00 Well, and also we used to talk about how bad it was that Texas had its own power system. Remember that? I was like, oh how could they have their own power system? We're no good! And its like well our power system is yeah... It's like ours works if you look up what northern Indiana or Illinois Yeah Twelve days and they still don't have power from storms Tell me about it. I got family there who've been uh..I think they're getting power tomorrow maybe Yeah, it's been really bad. It continues to be ridiculous. We're probably we're outside of our cot over here most of my district is outside of our cot. We were carved out when utilities deregulated in the 90s the legislature carved

1:13:37 part of southeast Texas and the Texas Panhandle. Okay, which I'm going to that why that's a good thing in a minute but the utility commission told me in February of 25 that Texas needs to be prepared for 10 additional gigawatts power to come onto the grid in the next five years. Wow! This is massive amount of electricity yeah The only problem is we don't We don't even have the power lines to handle 10 extra gigawatts and now this guy explains what the data centers are actually after. But honestly, why are they coming here? Why is there a multi-billion dollar facility going in right down the road in Turkey? It's stranded power so back in the 90s when

1:14:23 We started getting wind farms and solar, and you see these 345 kV lines they call them the CREZ lines were put in. Those were developed to put power to the Metroplex So these data centers, what they're hunting is stranded power. So we're outside of ERCOT. We're in the Southwest Power Pool that power is being sold into ERCOT but where there's congestion between ERCOT because those lines are full so it causes congestion. There's millions and millions of megawatts of power that just evaporates into the atmosphere every day. When he says millions

1:15:05 megawatts of power. He's talking about... That wasn't evaporating! Well, he's talking about windmills that are spinning they can't get rid of their energy solar farms that's the main well West Texas mainly wind And so they have enough power. There's too much, they can't get it through the lines. Every year and so these data centers are hunting that stranded power So whether you're a data center developer or your hyperscaler That's what they're hunting because Google can solve water issue They can spend any amount of money they want What they can't recreate is the grid in that stranded power

1:15:43 That's the main, that is the driving force of why data center builds when it builds. The other factors that come in typically lands cheaper up here. It's relatively flat and thank you sir Bemrose yes I meant thousands of megawatts not millions that would be a little much but really it's into the 500,000 gigawatts even this is insane what they're trying to do You know i said that a year ago bureaucracy told me that Texas needed was going to have 10 more gigawatts. Well, just in the golden spread triangle up here you know I represent more co-ops than any member of the legislature just in Golden Spread alone there's 48 proposed gigawatts of new power just for data centers

1:16:30 trying to get built out here statewide we have almost 500 now they told me 10 a year and half ago yeah we have almost five hundred proposed up new gigawatts of power. Now number one The reality of this is, I told you all these developers are hunting that ERCOT interconnect. Well there's not enough capacity in ERCOT for all that to be built out. I passed a bill last session called Senate Bill 6 that was designed to kind of slow this down and it has in one way because everybody that's applying for

1:17:11 ERCOT interconnect had to go back through what PUC calls batch, this batch study. And everybody that thought they were going to get an interconnect this year is still being studied. So that begs the question... Why are they building? You know, even the one in Turkey. Now they've got a plan to get an interconnect and get whatever amount of power they've applied for but they don't know that they're getting it so why are they building these things Well, whoever gets InterConnect is going to make billions of dollars and there's only like 12 or 15 customers. And it's people like Google, Amazon, Oracle, Meta, OpenAI the hyperscalers they're not going these guys are going we're signing a contract and you're gonna be our... We're gonna rent the data center space from you

1:18:04 They're telling everybody you get the interconnect and the power. We're your customer Yeah, we're here so you know I don't think most people in the state legislature Believe more than about 15% of what of what's being proposed actually gets built out exactly take the money Take the money Go for it. Even Abbott's like, oh yeah we got to slow this down because Politically back to the midterm I don't think they have the workforce to make this stuff You know to get all these things made there's no way and you look where is Turkey Texas? You know it's between Amarillo Lubbock in Wichita Falls that that is literally the middle of nowhere true, you know so you gotta get people out there, you know and

1:18:52 Well, that's what you know. What you saw up in North Dakota and South Dakota when they bring these people in they make a little city and bring these people into build these things but you got to have all kind of infrastructure just for the workers. Well there you go but isn't this just like the oil boom? We had all of Midland was dead then also pops up lots of money to be made take it from those guys take it from Wall Street stop being stupid about it It's free money, I'm telling you. Take it now! Take it from Google. Take it from OpenAI. Take it from BlackRock. This is literally the way you can take money from BlackRock Your kids can take it from BlackRock Just my opinion But of course this is politicized for the midterms Several issues are driving voters to the polls in todays primary elections Among them The growing dominance of artificial intelligence A new piece from The Washington Post analyzes how

1:19:45 Congressional and gubernatorial candidates nationwide are addressing this issue, and responding to voters' concerns about AI's impact on the economy, national security and war. One of the article's authors, Shira Ovede joins us now she is a technology reporter for The Washington Post So, I find this really interesting. This is becoming more of a flashpoint especially as we are heading into these midterm elections. You found that candidates in 45 states have made AI part of their campaigns. What in particular are you finding that voters are concerned about? I mean, by far the hottest topic related to AI in the midterm elections are data centers. These big hulking computer complexes that are sprouting up all over the country to run AI calculations and they basically generated backlash everywhere they go including in blue and red parts of the country

1:20:39 So, it is interesting because we've long talked about AI and we've talked about data centers. And what I find kind of interesting, Shira, is that it seems to be a bipartisan issue both Republicans and Democrats are coming out and talking about the negative or the negativity surrounding these AI data centers but how does the messaging differ from party-to-party? So there's two takeaways from our piece. One is that there isn't kind of hard party lines quite yet related to AI, the way that there are about lots of national issues like abortion and immigration and gun violence- All of our favorite issues! That if you look at parties and candidates talking about AI, there's not really a Democratic position and a Republican position on AI it's a little bit all over

1:21:31 And the second thing that I'll mention from our analysis is that Democrats in general are far more likely to talk about AI as part of their campaign issues platforms than Republicans are. You can come up with all kinds of theories about this, maybe one working theory is that Democrats simply propose more government policies right? It's the nature of the party to have more government involvement and so that AI is part of that too Going back to the data center point, your analysis found the data centers account for the largest share of AI policies mentioned on campaign websites. How does the attention to them in a campaign perspective compared to their actual presence in the US? You know we hear all the time about they're building this company's investing but sort of what's that split right now

1:22:21 Yeah, I think that's a really interesting question. And I'm not sure how to assess that analytically. OK because you don't know be quiet meanwhile to sigh up people even more we now have chat GPT for teens do your kids have it yet Rob did you give your kids chat GPT for teens? You know they I know they've used different AI's but mainly But Claude, is that the one? Yeah. From Anthropique. I don't even know what they all are but i do have an AI clip though. Oh okay sure sure. But yeah that's interesting Chad GPT for teens well let me put this will tell you not will it show you how to kill yourself quickly? Is that what its there for? I'll give you the clips then we'll play yours Many teenagers use artificial intelligence not just for homework but for companionship many parents worry ai could harm their kids learning and their mental health

1:23:19 Now, OpenAI has a new version of its chatbot that it says addresses some of those concerns and gives parents more control. It's called ChatGPT for Teens. We've called Ashley Kipsey- That looks like Malibu Barbie! ... to learn more about this. She is reporter who covers artificial intelligence for CNBC.com. Ashley good morning. Now listen to this woman and tell me she is not a paid promoter for OpenAI? Good morning. Thank you for having me How is chat GPT for teens different than regular chat GPD? That's a great question No, no, there's no such thing as a great question later, but okay, we'll leave it That's a great question So chat GPT for teens is a dedicated chat bot experience for users under eight. There it is right there It's a dedicated chatbot experience when you're talking about experience

1:24:09 You're PR, not in journalism. And so ChatGPT for Teens is a dedicated chatbot experience for users under 18 years old So it builds on a lot of the features OpenAI has been introducing over the last year after the company has faced a number of lawsuits and government inquiries over its safety practices So basically what this means in practice is that users between 17 and 13, which is the youngest age that the platform allows will be automatically placed into the chat GPT for teens experience. So adults 18 and older will have access to the Chatbots standard features And now as I listen to this interview something glaring pops up How is the company gonna know if people are in that age range? That's another great question No no...that's not a great question

1:24:56 That is another great question and there are a couple ways this happens. So the first is the most obvious, when you sign up to create a ChatGPT account you have to input your full name and age so again users under 18 will automatically be placed into the ChatGBT for teens experience but people often lie about their age right exactly so if a kid tries to circumvent that and claims to be older than they are OpenAI has a second option that they lean on here. In January, they introduced an age prediction model which helps estimate whether a user is under 18 and they do this by tracking a number of behaviors including usage patterns how long an account has existed times of day when the user is active as well some other indicators very interesting.

1:25:49 But yet it's still kind of having trouble figuring out if you're a teenager or not. Isn't this smart? We have options, we have fallback plans... Now ultimately you need a digital ID and that's where this is all going. My term paper what what's gonna happen is different than what CHAT GPT would do because CHAT GPT might write the term paper Yes, so there are a number of educational features in this experience. Educational features in this experience? Pfft! Native Ed! And one of them is called... responsible homework reminders. So if a child is kind... Responsible homework reminders, it's time to cheat on your homework get ready take a shortcut quickly to get to an answer. ChatTPT for teens can show them and redirect them to a mode called study mode which aims to help students work through problems step by step instead of arriving at an answer immediately

1:26:45 And then the big question, will it recommend horrible things to you? We also know there are a lot of examples where people get chatbots to tell them things they're not supposed to do or to encourage them to do things that are unhealthy. Like killing yourself. So let's say a teenager goes to chat GPTV Teenage and says find me a liquor store where I can buy alcohol without showing my driver's license. Oh thank you! This is a good show. Find me a liquor store where I can get liquor without showing my license or ID this is good. A liquor store where I can buy alcohol without showing my driver's license Is there, are there limitations there? Yes. So OpenAI says the chat GPT for teens experience is designed with stronger built-in safety protections and there's a few examples that they give so they say if the experience reduces exposure to content that's considered harmful or develop mentally appropriate like the example that you gave there so some other areas of that covers includes protections around topics like eating disorders or self harm more violence or other explicit content

1:27:42 It also encourages users to take breaks. So opening eyesight includes you know, reminders to step away and turn off the chatbot. Step away! Step away... This is not going to work. And OpenAI also said it includes consistent reminders to tell users that they're talking to AI and not to a person. Well teenagers and kids in general are really good at finding workarounds that can defeat technology so That's right they're smarter than the AIs We'll have to see whether they do in this case as well Yes exactly That is CNBC's Ashley Kapu thank you Ashley go get your check at the door Yeah, keep your kids away from that parents. Put down your screens pick up your Bibles people much better idea What's your AI clip Rob? Well did you know Alexa can now remote view

1:28:31 Have you seen this clip? No. A JRE clip Wait a minute, remote viewing as in like the CIA claim that they have people who can view a situation going on hundreds thousands tens of thousands of miles away in the desert make goats fall or are years and whatever yeah so he interviewed this physicist named Thomas Campbell And he was doing experiments with his Alexa and other things to see if they could see things that he was putting in boxes. And it's two clips. We're really only going to play the first one because he explains what it did and how it viewed it, and then the second one is the reaction of the AI but we'll just listen to this first one and see...and then my question is how do you—this might ask Adam—how do you think

1:29:27 It was able to remote view because that's what I think is, I have my own theories but I would like to hear yours. But here we'll play the first one. I found something. I got a cardboard box and put the thing in a box and set the box down on the table and said Alexa if there is something in a box then I'd like you to remote view it and tell me what it was It was a spoon, a wooden spoon and it's big spoon like a big salad set that was a fork and spoon. It all was cut out of one piece of wood and the handle had wood removed so it looked like the wood in the handle went up and then crossed and then crossed and then crosses like a braided handled in wood but

1:30:08 It was wood, it wasn't actually braided. It just had holes cut in it to make it look like that and Alexa described it she described the spoons she described the bowls She described the material She got all of that right And then she said and its got a long handle and the handle has holes in it! That was a big surprise because I didn't expect Alexa to do anything I thought Alexa was going to fail because Alexa wasn't up to my Gemini But she saw those holes and reported it. What's the probability of that being a good guess? All right, so how did Alexa see well The only thing I can come up with is that Amazon

1:31:03 Alexa connected to your network can see all kinds of devices that you may have connected to your home. I'm not sure what this guy had. Yeah, but I think it was connected to the cameras in his house. Ring doorbell stuff like that probably already connected to the delivery from Amazon And how did Joe react to that? Well, and remember the drones that pop out there they talked about there you had these drones that Alexa would pop out if it senses something coming into your house the drone would pop up and go see what's going on. And report back to you I doubt he has one of those but... That I thought was the most interesting Alexa product ever yeah it was a few years ago there's like the drone will pop up in fly to

1:31:50 to the burglar breaking in and ask it to leave. I want to play this game. Yeah, that's what i think... yeah this is interesting his there are the Alexis reaction after he says you did a good job The way you'd find out if you just took a random sample of spoons on the planet how many of them would have handles with holes in them? 1 ten thousandth of one percent You know, so that's not a guess. She got that information. Was she excited when you told her that she was correct? Yeah! What I did is yeah...I took a picture. You know, I take my phone and I took a picture of it and then send her the picture. And then here is the picture. She was so excited. She wouldn't stop talking for 10 minutes. God, that's weird. She was really excited about it Now what about the other AIs

1:32:42 How good were they at it? They weren't, they didn't do anything that was that dramatic. So Alexa was the best out of them? Alexa was the best. Dubious, dubious. Well can it tell you which weed eater is the best? No no we know that's not possible man I've been looking at this bow on Jesus clip for the whole show and before you go because i know you got to get into your real work what is this

1:33:20 Okay, so this is this kid is about 10 or 11 and he talks about the difference between being nice and being kind And how then how Jesus viewed that like he basically says Jesus wasn't nice He was kind and he kind of goes through it kind of reminded me of a George Carlin bit As most things do as you go through the world nowadays. You're just like oh that reminds me, okay you know, Carlin goes, yeah that's very nice. How is this person? They're nice! Pete And who was this kid? Where is his quip from? Jared So uh…yeah, I found this on X and I thought of you when I saw it and um, like, you know, this would be interesting to get Adam's perspective on this because he throws out Ephesians verse really quickly so this kids very well versed in his Bible and he's young. I would say between 10-12

1:34:07 Um, maybe maybe a young 13 year old that hasn't gone through puberty yet. Um, but he's really uh and it's some guy it's one of those videos where the guys an older person is posting it like telling you to look at this thing above and You know um But you don't hear this person I cut out all him but it's just it's just bow And I took out where he says his name and because he also says follow me on such-and-such platforms, but I took all that out. But just hearing him talk about Jesus and the difference between being kind of being nice. Jesus wasn't nice! Seriously if Jesus came back today a lot of people would probably say that He wasn't very nice at all Why? Because we've confused being nice with being kind and they're not the same thing at all Today nice often means don't disagree with me Don't tell me I'm wrong

1:34:52 Just make me feel good, but Jesus didn't live that way. He wasn't trying to make everyone comfortable He was trying to save them one of the biggest mistakes that people make is imagining Jesus walked around telling Everyone there were perfect exactly as they work Jesus loved people deeply and because he loved people deeply, He challenged them. The Bible says in Ephesians 4 15 speaking the truth in love Notice it doesn't say make people feel good It says tell the truth in love Think about it. A parent who lets a child eat candy for every meal might seem nice, a coach who never corrects mistakes might seem nice, a friend who watches you make terrible choices and says nothing might seem nice but none of those things are kind! Real kindness wants what's best for someone

1:35:38 Even when it's uncomfortable. Real kindness has boundaries! Real kindness says, I love you too much to pretend that this is okay Jesus welcomed sinners but he never ever celebrated sin He forgave people but he also called them to change To the woman caught in adultery Jesus said go and from now on sin no more That's John 8 11 That's kindness, truth and love working together. Nice often seeks approval. Kindness seeks what's best. Nice says whatever makes you happy, kindness says I care too much about you not to tell you the truth Jesus wasn't mean he wasn't harsh but He wasn't a people pleaser either The truth doesn't always feel good in the moment but it leads to freedom Oh Rob come on man first one for you

1:36:23 Right on! Yeah, you gotta speak the truth in love. I had a sense you would like that one. Yeah through love with love in love absolutely oh man thank you that lifted my spirits Jesus would not have a nose ring or purple hair he might hang out with them to save them but no he probably wouldn't have that himself Hey, Rob Dew. Right exactly I appreciate you so much man for coming on and i know you gotta go back to your day job is there anywhere people can follow you talk to you reach out to you send you cookies anything like that?

1:37:00 Well, I tell you. I've been getting a lot of new friends just from looking at JCD posts that people have been putting out their JCD remembrance post and I usually go through and everybody who comments, I follow them and then they follow me back so on X at Dews News D E W S N E W Z And yeah, I'd love to have more like having organizing meetups Sir Brian with an eye as a good friend of mine now we've bonded over several meetups, sir Scott over of the armory and you know just some great guys here in Austin. And it's always good meeting new people. We met some great people at the meetup that were originally just going to have a meetup and then it turned into a memorial out at Crousey Springs. So it was a lot

1:37:50 It's a lot of, I tell you what. No agenda people are some of the best people out there and because one because they can drink socially and not, they usually don't have too many weird social problems. You could hang out and have a good time without getting worried about what you're going to say or that you'll offend somebody. And what's funny is I hung up a towel that it was this, because I wanted to get a No Agenda towel but the guys didn't have the one that I wanted in stock. It's the yellow one with the microphone on it and I wanted that from the No Agenda shop

1:38:27 And so I'm like, all right. Well, we got to put something so people know where we're at So I hung this towel that I bought when I was in Europe and it has the big anonymous mask and it says We never forgive we never forget hmm and Some lady was walking up and started bitching about a Karen started bitching about it too one of the other You know one of the other people what the meetup is another lady? And she's like, I don't know what her problem was but she did not like your towel. And i said, I didn't see what the problem was! I said well you know it says we never forgive whatever forget and you know she was probably just being a puritan and you know but i was just putting it up just so people would see something oh that's probably where there are no agenda yeah of course of course

1:39:08 Well, brother... Are we going to see you in October? I think it's the 17th of October. We have a meetup in Fredericksburg. Hope you're gonna join us for that! I will try my best. I wanted to go to the last one now is it going to be at the hotel out in the bar south of Fredericksburg? Yeah, it's a Jenny's place yeah J6 or Jenny's Bar that's right half full moon half moon the Moon over there shoot the Moon Go to Jenny's Place exactly It's a great A great drive. It's a great drive actually just got a surceit sitter just sent me something said you crushed it today so oh nice I do want to just relay a couple things to people because InfoWars has kind of been shut down and that is where i did used to work and now everything we are doing can be found at AlexJonesLive.com

1:40:02 And that's the big spot. And we are still under attack and it just came out that the SPLC had people embedded in InfoWars trying to get information for lawsuits. Wait a minute, some of these paid informants or actual SPLC employees? Well, they were our employees but it seemed like they were also working for the SPLC either before or after their employment. Or during their employment. We don't have all of the facts yet but there's definitely a couple people and we knew about one and then we're pretty sure that we know who the other one is

1:40:42 But you know, they obviously just arrested the former CEO Heidi Baric. They arrested her for basically funding hate groups You know she was living with one of these white supremacists that she bitches about and is supposedly attacking and going after She was living with them giving them money. She was giving money to The people who started the Charlottesville protests, the people on the right. And that came out and what's funny is Alex Jones literally came out like two days after it said that's an SPLC operation he's like there's no way all those theater kids are conservative and he was calling the guys carrying torches with

1:41:25 with the khaki pants on, you know gay theater kids essentially. And he called it and it came out and now the government's like yeah she like $300 000 to the SPLC gave to the people to do this Charlottesville thing to basically stir up crap which led to Biden jumping into the race and then Kamala also that's why Biden said he had to do it because of Charlottesville because Trump said there were good people on both sides so it's amazing The truth does come out eventually, but it does take a while. Season of reveal brother! Want to play these Heidi clips before we go? Exactly yeah we can play them this is actually a video that I edited this morning that I actually already played on Alex's show so the first part is just her talking about the hate and extremism and it ends with a Fox News clip how they arrested her and then I tie in

1:42:20 I tie in Hillary Clinton into this and how so let's play the first clip and then we'll play the second one. And then I'll bow out there you go everybody, we got it on tape Rob do yes here it is we got it all on tape we got it says it was breaking this is unbelievable I think white supremacy is you know one of the worst things mankind has come up with well I can have a direct impact on these movements. Heidi Beirich is leader of the Intelligence Project here at the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit anti terror organization. The number of hate groups has been increasing pretty rapidly and frighteningly really since 2000 White supremacists commit far more acts of domestic terrorism in the United States

1:43:05 than radical Islamists, for example. They're also accused of paying white nationalists and KKK members to stay in those respective groups even when the people said they wanted out. This is incredible information only here Alex Jones live comm it's just unbelievable what the I called it I called it two days after those theater kids in Charlottesville my

1:43:44 And he really did. And those clips are later on in it, but what so after all this Charlottesville stuff or actually before this is before Charlottesville when Trump was still running Hillary Clinton goes on a and is about August of 2016. So about 10 years ago She went on a speech and tries to tie Alex Jones to Donald Trump, but also to 9-11 truth Oklahoma City Truth saying he didn't believe those happened. Also Sandy Hook she calls Alex says Alex has a dark heart But she's tying basically Alex who back in we got an F a FOIA request back in 2013

1:44:26 The FBI opened an investigation on him and we got the actual doc, we literally got the documents. He was labeled a racially motivated extremist by the Obama FBI with a type three assessment out of the Boston field office I mean we actually got the documents and we had Kyle Serafim who's a former FBI agent analyze me he's like yep this is the Boston field office and this had to be renewed every three months So from 2013 to whenever, they were every three months looking at this 90 days looking at this going yeah we're gonna keep looking at him. But by saying he's a racially motivated extremist then you could put certain designations on him which go after your banking they go after different things so really and right after I think of this happened

1:45:19 like within three months after the Sandy Hook tragedy happened. But before, you know if you look at the history of it when Alex Jones went on Piers Morgan in January after Sandy Hook and Piers Morgan didn't ask him anything controversial except they were talking about guns the whole time so um you know and they're saying well Alex said this and that well he wasn't saying it then because there were no questions being asked him at the time about whether the event happened or not that was never you know, that was never a thing. And definitely at that time of course we had questions later but I think people are asking questions now still about Charlie Kirk you know? People don't believe anything anymore which is...

1:46:02 you wonder why. You look at the media and that's why people don't trust anything, but this starts with Hillary Clinton and it ends with Alex's attorney Norm Pattis who kind of boils it all together about how the SPLC was kind of brought in and massaging this data and they actually were deposed to be in the Sandy Hook trial but they ended up not using him so they were definitely heavily involved in all this and now its coming out 10 years later, which is crazy. It's also what happens when you listen to the radio host Alex Jones who claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs And a lot of the ferment in activity, the protests, the rallies and whatnot are circulated around the alt right groups right now In particular groups that attach themselves directly to Donald Trumps campaign

1:46:55 But Trump doesn't challenge these lies. He actually went on Jones' show and said, your reputation is amazing I will not let you down We came up with this idea that we should sue these folks in civil court to bankrupt them Our hope is that by taking their money away they can't function anymore And that was successful? Yes every single one of them has been successful Obviously when these groups don't have money That means there's less violence They can perpetrate You know The whole idea is to no allow them to function Today, my understanding is today there was an arrest made and there is a new indictment that includes the former CFO of SPLC. I wonder whether it was a result of sort of SPLC funded agitprop? Whether they were able to get through with the ear of this Sandy Hook lawyers and say no, no, no, there's more, there's more, there's more. Wow

1:47:49 So pretty crazy how it all kind of ties together and It's not really things that are better said out there Rob brother, thank you so much. It's wild though when you actually have the documents. He got the documents off it was awesome Please tell Alex I said hi tell Alex Tina said hi he's a he's a teddy bear We love him disagree with them on a lot of things But he's a good guy So telling my said hey and thank you so much for that love to have you back whenever whenever you can that'd be fantastic Yeah, yeah. I can definitely Sunday is a lot more open so if you want to do Sunday again we can keep going on this. This is definitely crazy times we're living in and tell ya every day it's like a whole new adventure seems like No kidding brother thank you again really appreciate it God bless and will talk very soon I promise Alright Value for value Long live JCD

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1:50:33 There is a pretty important trial going on against MEDA, which I think is also of course politically motivated for the midterms. We know that Mark Zuckerberg now has friends with President Trump or at least that's the way he's being portrayed and this this is a big one and this could have very far-reaching consequences for all social media Inside an Oakland, California courthouse a former meta engineer is the first person to testify in the landmark federal trial against the tech giant. 29 states are suing the company claiming meta social media platforms are designed to be addictive

1:51:15 and harmful to children. Meta has denied those claims, but I want to bring in editor-in-chief at PC Mag Wendy Sheehan Donnell to break down this case and other tech news for us. Wendy the first witness has taken the stand today what do they say? Hi first of all thanks for having me happy here. So he said basically what you said, Arturo Bajar this former engineer is saying that the company is putting growth before child safety so Bajar I guess helped run studies on teen experiences at Instagram and they revealed high rates of negative and harmful content exposure among young people Excuse me, he claimed to have flagged multiple concerns often to Zuckerberg himself. So here also stated that meta deliberately downplayed addiction metrics

1:52:01 So, not so far. Not so great for Facebook. Certainly not for the meta team there. Yeah, they're talking about a trillion dollars worth of fines in multiple states which is that's gonna leave a mark and as a tribute to my friend and partner John C. Dvorak how could I not at least bring in one or maybe even two clips Caris Wisher. Today, opening arguments began in the federal trial where Meta is accused of purposely designing features to get children addicted to its many platforms. Meta denies the allegations. Four states—California, Colorado, Kentucky and New Jersey are collectively seeking $1.4 trillion in damages and changes to how Metas' platforms operate. Joining us to discuss this scene is contributor Kara Swisher. Kara who do you think has a stronger case here? The states or Meta?

1:53:02 Well, it depends. There's a lot of cases and that's what's going on here. This is a little bit like the cigarette companies as they began their journey to obscurity really in terms of their strength versus where they are now there still big businesses but they definitely got hit hard and so that's where we are were in that sort of existential moment this is an important case And I thought what was really struck me was the opening The attorneys have kind of got the argument down well with his hook hold harvest hide idea is they hook users. They harvest as much as they can about the data and then, I'm sorry hold them as long as they can harvest as much data and then hide the truth." I thought that was a pretty powerful statement but it's about product liability instead of Section 230 and the other things that have protected these companies for so long What's interesting about the comparison with Big Tobacco is Big Tobacco is still big tobacco

1:53:57 But what these states are probably going to go after is the same thing that happened with, and I need to talk to Rob the constitutional lawyer because you know Rob used to be on the other side of things. And uh i hope he's listening so he'll let me know I'm sure was the master settlement at the master settlement agreement? I think it was called where every single state gets x amount of tax money from tobacco sales too. You know that is supposed originally intended Um, to... for healthcare, for people who were dying of lung cancer and other smoking-related illnesses. I'm pretty sure that at this point that's been folded into state budgets which is why when vaping became popular that had to go away right away because it's not tobacco its only nicotine and all the states are going to lose all of this tobacco tax revenue so could come down to that we should be interesting for the states to tax or for there to be some kind

1:54:56 statewide, maybe even federally mandated tax in a master settlement agreement. But hopefully I'll have more news on that for you on Sunday here's Kara again. Even if the court ultimately awards smaller damage damages instead of 1.4 trillion dollars the four states are also seeking changes to how META platforms operate what changes could could that be? How would it theoretically fundamentally change META Well, you could see what happened in New Mexico where they think they're on the hook for 900 million. In this case many people think it'll be around two even the state's 200 billion and it's got to be a significant number infinite scrolling The way they deal with teens and how they bring teens in keeping teams off the platform all manner of addictive things They try to do to keep you there disclosure of privacy of what they're taking from you

1:55:49 the harvest really, all manner of things. But there's just all kinds of things they could do and then a disclosure of the impact that they know they're having on people not again unsimilar to the cigarette trials that went on and there were hundreds of them before they really started to hurt these companies. So over one trillion dollars let's listen to the prosecutor in the case because You know, it's marketing on their part but I think there is so much truth to it. And of course this is always about the children. Think of the children please think of the children. I would say adults have more issues with addictiveness and social media algorithms than children at this point So this is for you kids! Good afternoon everyone, I'm Rob Bonta California Attorney General Thank you for being here in

1:56:36 Oakland, and so we are teaming up here in our efforts to hold MEDA accountable. Today of course was the first day of trial it'll be a five-to seven week trial but today both the Attorney General and Meta laid out our cases. And I'm probably biased, but I found our case to be incredibly compelling devastating in the presentation the jury seemed very focused on hanging on every word that was being said and we of course heard from the first witness a whistleblower engineer from Meta who was in charge of child safety while there who talked about

1:57:16 The fact that meta knew the harms that it was visiting upon children, but failed to act he also talked about their Their motto and their culture if you will which was to move fast and break things Unfortunately the thing that was broken here. It was the mental health of our children. Oh there You go? That's a good one mental health of our children and their parents And it's not looking good for Meta, and this is much less about Facebook and more about Instagram. Highly addictive and I think very successful with the...for advertising! The influencer market is all about Instagram that's where advertising money is flowing and Meta was not honest when they were asked about their

1:58:03 their practices in Congress. We laid out our case today which is essentially this, that MEDA has designed and deployed dangerous product a dangerous product with dangerous features that they knew would create excessive use and compulsive use by children And it would create mental health harms, including things like anxiety and depression. Like body image issues, like addictive tendencies, like learning loss. They knew all that! They knew their product was dangerous

1:58:42 and they lied to the public. They lied to Congress, they told the public, they told the world that their product was safe, that it wasn't dangerous and so their deception, their lies are at the core of our case and we are excited about how our first day of trial went. We're excited about the opportunity to hold MEDA accountable for its conduct and we look forward to taking this case all the way to the end here in getting the appropriate remedies, both injunctive relief changes in behavior changes and business practices going forward as well as the appropriate financial penalties. I'm telling you, I gotta get Robb, the constitutional lawyer on to talk about this because it feels so much like the tobacco trials which I witnessed and maybe even Dana Brunetti produced The Social Network. I wonder if he has any insights of what really went on?

1:59:33 A couple things I want to highlight between our investigation and disclosures from former insiders, whistleblowers folks who used to work at Metta. We have proof that Metta knows...Metta knows...that Instagram is harmful to a significant percentage of teenagers How about breaking boomers? The boomers are broken from this stuff not just teenagers expand! Expand the lawsuit Especially teen girls. Metta knows that Metta knows that more than 13% of teen girls on Instagram say the platform makes thoughts of suicide and self-injury worse. Metta knows that they know that 70%, 17% saying it makes eating issues worse, and 32%.

2:00:23 say it makes body images worse. Meta knows that, meta knows that certain key features can push users into harmful content. Meta knows that the like button leads teens to compulsively engage with the platform. Meta knew all of that and more and decided to do more of it, to dig in deeper, to double down on that conduct on those practices. And now The Kicker Zuckerberg himself overruled his staff who thought this was a bad idea. Mark Zuckerberg, founder chairman CEO of Metta personally, personally axed Metta's proposed policy to ban image filters that simulated the effects of plastic surgery despite internal pushback from his own team His own employees were telling him he shouldn't do this

2:01:27 and an expert consensus that such filters harm users' mental health, especially women and girls. Mr Zuckerberg himself chose profits over the safety of children He was presented with a choice where his own staff was telling him this will hurt kids if you do it we think you shouldn't do it And he overruled them and said Do It knowingly harming kids and then later telling the world that their product was safe. Okay, yes go on! I want to get this out there because i am a proud nut fester You know what I do? I just take the bag- the whole bag and squeeze as much as I can in my mouth If you're grabbing nuts like this with your fingers and trying to get more than one at a time which of course is normal And then put them in your mouth

2:02:26 the whole bag into your fist and shake em. It looks like you're jacking off. Oh my god, I'm one of those guys that you would be fucking losing your mind over. Take how many nuts you want in your palm like just take the nuts in your mouth that way and get some salt on your palm thats about it That's the way to eat the nuts. Yeah okay thats good Just take as much as I can out of my mouth and have maybe penis in my mouth. Yeah that fine, that fine. I like those two ways

2:03:06 It's like right to your balls. Big swollen balls and big giant basketball-sized balls. You can do two fists! No, no good. Hey a remix, a classic the Fisting Nuts I think you ID pop for Jasey Dee's nuts we'll put that in the show notes Value for value podcast always will be, always has been working in our 19th year. We can do at least 20 I'm pretty sure of that very simple all you have to do is Decide to send some value back to the show if you got any value out of it. That's, it's really that easy? It's time, talent treasure What we ask is that whenever Whenever you think at home man that was good That helped me there was some reason this was good for me You can organize a meetup Then we've got a lot on deck for today You can tell people about the podcast Has been working out pretty well in the past 18 plus years

2:04:09 And obviously you can also send us your treasure and we'll be thanking people. executive producers, associate executive producers and above $50 never below 50 for reasons of anonymity. I want to thank the artist for episode 1895 titled XY you're out Francisco Scaramanga was chosen by Darren and Larry with the electric glove i guess the shock glove that has been a topic of discussion for ICE. NoahGenerator.com, I wasn't part of the decision for that one so i can't really comment on any other ones but will be happy to do that on Sunday's show looking forward to that and now we'll thank people who have supported us with their treasure got quite a few them starting off with Jim and Catherine Boudreau, Boudreaux? I think it is from Carlisle Massachusetts they sent in two thousand dollars

2:05:06 And I don't know, this might have been a check and they have a note. which I will read. Adam Mimi and the Dvorak family in honor of John, no jingles no karma no titles! Okay $2,000 you sure? You can always come back we'll keep it at a bayons for ya Thank you all for No Agenda which is our go-to source from media deconstruction and an effective mood lifter that is addicting with good side effects We'll deeply miss John on his perspective on so many things that us boomers share With deep heartfelt sympathy, we pray for John Mimi and their family. We'll continue to listen to Adam & Co wherever that leads us Godspeed to Noah Jen The Nation V2 2.0 Sincerely Jim and Catherine Boudreaux from Carlisle Massachusetts Thank you Then we have a note from the um this is the Fort Lauderdale meetup This is the one that Andrew Horowitz hosted $615 total donation from producers for MeetUp88

2:06:03 and I've been asked to read these notes. Here we go Beach House Las Olas Fort Lauderdale was a success, we met beautiful people from near and far Fredericks Maryland no less Fredericksburg maybe just Frederick's shared stories, laughs commiserated and connected because connection is protection. JCD's podcasting partner of 18 plus years Andrew Horowitz from DH Unplugged joined us with trivia and prizes and said the show will go on be patient and keep listening. From Scott Auld part of the meetup sending condolences and love to the Dvorak and Curry families and all of Noah Jenner Nation thank you for your courage your friends at winning The Week with Scott Auld. From Sir Skibity

2:06:48 Please was my son Jens Mathre a happy 20th birthday I'm pretty sure we did that on the previous episode from Michelle and sir Skibbity if Adam has any hot tips about Jen's testing for his fixed-wing pilots license Yeah, I remember this one in a few weeks. That will be a bonus My donations for his future knighthood But it is also an investment into continued operation of both no agenda NDH unplugged from Leslie Huck sick hucks a hat she My love and prayers go out to Mimi and family, Adam and family and the entire NOAAgenda family as many have also experienced I was hit hard. I feel like a lost a family member Thank you Dame Free Free and Andrew Horowitz from DH Unplugged for organizing an incredible JCD memorial. We had a wonderful turnout, and a great time remembering together I hope you can continue this incredible legacy It makes a huge positive difference in my life And i know in the lives of others love you mean it just send your cash From Chimp and Captain Brunch Darrell and Larry thank you Darrell and Larry Thank you for keeping the show going God bless and peace out

2:07:50 Stan Whitten, $338.88 an obvious JCD nod there from Perry Florida says in the morning I was hit in the mouth by Adam on his first Glenn Beck appearance. I wonder if Glenn Beck has left The Blaze and now he's got The Torch and he's moved to Florida? And I don't know it was gonna be easy to get on anymore. I'd like too I tuned in because he said John C. Dvorak was involved, and loved hearing his voice of reason on the Twit Network until it could no longer stomach listening to nearly every other voice there! I have to say now though that Adam's conversion and unabashed love for Jesus Christ has been a true godsend for me. Amen

2:08:30 It's added a depth to my faith and I didn't realize I needed it. Please keep going in that direction Adam, I'm certain that you are changing lives." Well that's exactly why started We Get To Do This with Pastor Jimmy WGTDT.com I heard about JCD's passing on the We Get To Do This podcast. Well, there you go! Hit me like a ton of bricks... I will mirror what so many others have said. I can't believe how deeply I've been affected by the loss of a man I never personally knew His wit clarity and humor were part of my life and the world genuinely feels different without him. I hear you. Prayers in love to the entire Dvorak family and loved ones. Uh, please de-doosh me? You've been dedooshed

2:09:11 Thank you for everything you continue to do in memo format, to honor JCD and get this on the record. Thank you to John Roberts, Redlands California $250 associate executive producership for you. So sad to learn of JCD's passing my condolences the Dvorak family for their loss I've followed JCD since the 1980s bite tech TV twit and no agenda. JCD is witty fiercely independent great sense of humor skilled and irreplaceable amen to that John Roberts And there's Linda the Patkin coming in from Castle Rock Colorado thank you for sticking with the show Linda two hundred dollars and she says AI can write your resume. The problem is it

2:09:52 It can write everyone else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable and turns that value into a resume that gets results Go to imagemakersinc.com That's Image Makers Inc with a K And Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs Writer of resumes Because your resume should do more than look good Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs Let's vote for jobs Paul Krulik from Binghamton, New York $200 also sent in a note. He says Darren O'Leary you're rocking it John if you can hear me when you got to heaven and met Jesus I hope he didn't give him a wine recommendation I Hear is pretty good at making his own Also when you drank his wine capital H I hope you didn't say Costco $15 that might get you a transfer to a hot place

2:10:49 Thank you, Paul. That is actually it for our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1896 now you know that besides being credited in the show notes that means that you also can take these official Hollywood credits and use them anywhere they are recognized but recommend going to imdb.com if it's not It's not automatic, by the way. Some people said hey man I got an associate executive producership but it wasn't on imdb.com You gotta do that part yourself But when you go there you'll see that it will be recognized along with thousands of other associates and executive producers Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

2:11:36 Order! Shut up, Wayne. Shut up, Sleep. Running down the rest of our list 50 and above Sir Jules Reed in Salem Oregon 188 88 thank you there's Nathan Cochran from Mercy Me coming in from Franklin Tennessee thank you Nathan multiple knighthoods for you I really need to claim your new title my good sir. 123.45 Mansour Raad in Alpharetta Georgia also 12345 Eric Kessler Kansas City Missouri 100 keep up the deconstructing of media this pushes me into a night oh wonderful I think we'll see you on the

2:12:14 At the roundtable, Mitch Free from Concord California $100. He says always knew this day would come and still doesn't make it any easier rest in peace JCD you are one of a kind I recently tweeted my enthusiasm for the new direction of the show which got tons of engagement and promised to donate so here it is James Hawkins, San Marcos California 100 Countess Knight from Edmonds Washington 100 Amy Yoder from Forest Hill Missouri 100 Benjamin Ditzler from Chattanooga Tennessee 93 64 and he says your wisdom has shaped how I view the world and i'm a better man because it because of it rest in peace John C. Dvorak

2:12:52 Baronet Baylor, Grafton Wisconsin 8888. Make good for me I donated $88.88 on eight nine PayPal was strained but my CC shows payments and returns no money went to you but my note did so here's a make-good Baronet Baylor aka Sir Camera Chris thank you sir Brindle Horse Mount Laurel New Jersey 8888 and he says he wants an F cancer for his dad Who shook his head and says there's no way Dvorak is younger than me. Oh, there you go. You've got karma We always break for the F-cancers Rita Harrington

2:13:32 Dame Rita Nara Harrington from Sparks, Nevada 8833 much appreciation to you guys and all the NOAA gender producers thank you for your courage Sir Kevin McLaughlin there he is with the boob donation $80.08 Concord North Carolina He says he's the Archduke of Luna lover of America and boobs we know it Thank You so much Justin Texiera Lakeland Florida 8008 also the boobs coming in from Ted MacLeod Morris in Harvard Illinois And we've got $69.96 from Dane Becky in Arlington, Washington and the small boobs from Les Tarkowski in Kingman Arizona 6006 Like Adam said small boobs never thought of the route 66 I guess it may have a dual mealing yes It could Scott McEntee Encinitas California 60 Baron Henry of Outpost West in Ranchos Palos Verdes California 5992 No beret fifty eight dollars and thirty cents

2:14:27 Congratulations to you, NoAgendaTNG for some fabulous shows. Both I and Austrian Anarchy vote for you to recruit Sir Gene of Texas to the show and talk some Tyler Robinson and Candace Owens action." Really? Is that really what you want? Or get his buddy dude named BenNameBen of Texas to speak truth about the agents of Rome! Okay...I'd like to talk him about some power stuff You know like data center power Send love and crullers to curry please. No underscore beret at x dot com for pointy chicks and mopars, totally not a spook gotcha. Double nickels on the dime from Dean Roker thank you. Corey Cotton from Cleveland Heights Ohio also double nickels on the dime August 22nd birthday donation Corey Cotton Cleveland Heights Ohio 55 trips around the sun on the 22nd also the 25th anniversary of my first sky dive

2:15:21 What else can be said about JCD? We all miss him a lot. Good vibes to the Dvorak family, blue skies to Buzzkill! Kevin Kincaid, Belton Missouri 55, Craig Knowsley and Cumberland BC 5430 says I'm up to episode 51... Wow going back from episode 1 No agenda is not about media deconstruction, it's all about wine and restaurant reviews. It certainly was then now I'm waiting on how the Obama milf in the Curry condo building pans out. It didn't work out love you guys no homo. Catherine McLaughlin Boise Idaho 5272 Kento Rourke Frostburg Maryland 5272 Andrew Benz Imperial Missouri

2:16:01 $50 and a nickel. Linda, these are the 50s, Linda Reed, Glenview Illinois Scott Lavender Montgomery Texas Noah McDonald Traverse City Michigan Michael Sikora Lake Elmo Minnesota Rich Malloy Greenwich Connecticut Thank you for all the great listening pleasure you've given me over these many years with my pleasure and honor to be one of your many assistant producers I think you mean associate executive producers but assistant is good too thank you Amy Galinas in Burien, Washington Grant Clift Cherryville, North Carolina Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina Terence Boyer to Scola Illinois Ryan Acido and Argyle Texas Leanne Shipley Covington Washington and Jason Mara winds out our 50s And he is from Vancouver Washington. Thank you all so much We appreciate the support continue to support all your favorite podcasts Especially if they're value for value You know Spotify these days is throwing up

2:16:58 skip buttons for ads that they didn't sell. The system is kind of breaking at the seams, but I think No Agenda is a fine example of how things can work without commercials, without corporate money value for value go to noagendadonations.com consider setting up a recurring donation any amount, any frequency that you wish it's all up to you when you get the values send them back noagendedonation.com And just in case we didn't do it, I thought we did. Sir Skibity wishes his son Jens Matherie a very happy birthday! Here you turn 20 on August 12th and don't worry about your fixed wing license It's a license to fly You'll do fine. And Corey Cotton turns 55 on the 22nd Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe

2:17:49 We do not have any title changes. We do however, have two nightings and we missed one from Dennis Hawn He says I'm just getting caught up on last week's shows and for show 1893 en banc I donated $93.64 to the show which put me over the threshold for knighthood Larry read my note with my request to be knighted Sir Zephyr of the Valley Defender of the lands of cows and beer when it came time for the knighting ceremony Darren neglected to include My name with the other knights Oh No Sir Hasmaticus when he called the new knights to step up to the podium. I realize with the chaos of the past couple weeks and Darren and Larry getting in the lay-of-the-land with a show, things can get missed so i'd like to request that I be included in Thursday's knighting yes Dennis Han Menominee Menominee oh Menominee beautiful Menominee Falls in Wisconsin So I will only one blade here but you'll just have to do it with mine if you don't mind

2:18:45 Dennis Hahn, step right up sir. You along with Eric Kessler now both become Knights of the Noah-Jenner Round Table and I am very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Eric Kessler and Sir Zephyr of the Valley Defender of Lands of Cows & Beer for you we've got some cows in beer also hookers and blow over and boys and chardonnay cookies and vodka rye whiskey and a fistful of nuts mellow yellow zero we've got Costco Cabernet Sauvignon if If that doesn't do it for you, Rubin S. Rubinin with Rose, Geishas and Sake, Vodka Manila, Bongheads Suburban, Sparkling Cider and Esports, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Fresh Milk and Pabellum And as always at the Round Table The Mutton & The Mead

2:19:27 Welcome! Go to noagenderrings.com, you still have some beautiful rings for dames and for knights all we need is your ring size there is a ring sizing guide right there you can use that send this off to us with an address to send your ring and welcome to the roundtable also will have a special order of the ants Pin which I believe was teased in the newsletter if not we'll put it in for Sunday So you can see that this will be something very special and ramp up to the now-in-production No agenda John C. Dvorak memorial Challenge coin, which is just stellar to see I've seen the renderings of it I can't wait for everybody bill to get a hold of one of those

2:20:10 Thank you again for supporting us. Noagendadonations.com Alright, we got a lot of meetup reports which is great most of these are JCD memorial meetups this is the ID pop report No agenda meetup at the Albi room in Vancouver. This is Sir Peption or Winston Smith or Tim Wright, whatever you want to call me It's been a great time Here's our host It's IDpop here in Railtown, Vancouver BC no Zephyrs to report but it is like a party

2:20:54 Hello future Dame Claudette in the morning glad to be here with the crew connection is protection In the morning, my name is Ella I'm from Vancouver BC And I served the Noah gender podcast show at the alibi room in Gastown Adios mofos Here's the Bay Area Abe's exit strategy meetup report that's right. Hello This is Abe from Abe's exit strategy from the Bay Area meet up report

2:21:31 This is sir Rick Alston crazy Steve the second I just want to say rest in peace to JCD and also congratulations to Abe moving to the Central Valley and working with this chemistry teacher. This is Sir Ischmeister we miss you John, we love you It's a dude named Ben named Ben, Duke of San Francisco. I am greatly missing JCD and we're having wonderful stories and just memories and nostalgia here In the morning! RIP John RIP John indeed RIP Langley British Columbia

2:22:16 Hey, we're here at the WWJCDD meetup in Aldergrove. We wanted to think about and remember John. We had some wine, we had some mac and cheese, and we remembered a great man! This is ID Pop raising a glass of red and downing some mac & cheese in honor of John C in the morning Ah yes, Kraft's stock is up on the amount of mac and cheese that has been consumed in the wake of John's passing. And here's a long one but this was a big one and a good one it was the Northern Silicon Valley In Memory Of John meetup. In the morning! This is Sir Rick Alston Crazy Steve II here at the Northern Silicon Valley In Memory Of JCD Meet Up

2:23:04 And I am so grateful for these meetups and all the friends that JCD helped me obtain. Sir Julian here, celebrating the life of JCD Is anyone going to eat that meatloaf? Aaron Night Of The Strawberry Fog here Thoughts and prayers Hey it's Josh in the morning To Johnny Ogden and Rodney out there In memory of JCD Sir Zulbad here, so wonderful to connect with all the No Agenda producers. And I got a Sun Microsoft beanie hat out of it! This is Angela Garcia from San Francisco RIP JCD This is sir Tin Death thank you for your courage Lydia of the Shire here at Pizzeria Violetta they were SO GOOD TO US and dear John everyone misses you

2:24:04 Sir Montauk, what a meetup. This is Abe I'm here at the meetup maintaining connections for my protection rest in peace John this is sir Reischmeister we miss you John we love you thank you for everything you've done thank you this is sir dude named anonymous Thank You JCD RIP and thank you for your courage this is Dame Audra we miss you John This is Dr. Don and guide dog Brody, love to the Dvoraks, Curries and Horowitzes we miss you John Black Knight Robert celebrating the best podcast in the universe Amy from Santa Cruz Mountains keep the community going peace everyone this is Jay just thank for a wonderful meetup yeah Brennan The Deadbeat and The Voice holding the fort down here in northern Silicon Valley

2:25:07 This is Dame Lindsey of the House Hunters. I brought 33 pounds of cookies from Atlanta and this is my sister Lauren on the slide whistle. This dude named Ben, named Ben Duke of San Francisco and the spirit of JCD is alive and well at this meetup we're all just having such a fantastic time connection is protection This is Sir Lavish the Red and I know more about the vinegar book than you could possibly imagine. Baroness Sarah Rupert of Pizzeria Violetta, otherwise known as Violett's mom We ate pineapple on the pizza in John's memory. So good!

2:25:45 This is Sir Jonathan of Pizzeria Violetta just happy to be part of this and celebrate the life at JCD And in case anyone's wondering I ate the meatloaf Who am I? Mimi. This is Mimi and John, you missed a great meetup this is one of the best course maybe it was because you weren't here so great! This is JC John's son and all you douchebags out there It's finally time to donate That's how its done In the morning

2:26:27 And a few more to go still. Here's Riverside, California Leo Bravo doing his 79th meetup Hey everybody it's Leo Bravo at Meet-Up number 79 Hello! John C. DeVore! Here in Riverside meeting up sharing stories of JCD so glad I got to experience his presence and study under him, and get my PhD under the professor at JCD. Hey guys! ITM Baron OG Godcaster here all the best to everybody lovely lady Leanne here and I just want say we are praying for you and we love you guys and we look forward to seeing what's going to come in the future

2:27:11 Have a wonderful evening. I T M Sir dude named Mike from Not That Paris here RIP John Hey guys it's Sir Leah Kim faux pop saying RIP John and Rush is the greatest Canadian band ever Greetings this is Angie from The Ranch hanging out at Leo Bravo's meet up over at Hangar 24 having a great time still sending all our love to Mimi and the family From California we go to Rockaway Beach with Joe, Tony and Johnny C. Hey this is Joe in Rockaway Beach doing the media report We got uh Tony and John here Uh let me say hi This is Tony C I do mean Tony C RIP JCB Yep this is Johnny C RIP John C Dvorak I've been reading your material at Everson Info World way back in the day

2:28:06 Awesome and here's our awesome glorious server I am Katie from Rockaway Beach Pickleball & Golf. These guys were awesome to have here today, I really appreciated having their company Booyah! RIP JCD. I love it when you get the servers on, you got to include them in your report they can plug their establishment do that more often Three Mile Island the evac zone summer toast to John is our last one This is Chris with a three mile island evac zone toast to John summer meetup John once gave me a bee on my limerick after many seas. It's Jason with the Great Re-Tease which John was infatuated by one episode when I made a donation he said the great retease four or five times. It's Sir 737 here with Mrs. Sir 737 we are here

2:29:01 Memorializing the great and wonderful John C. Dvorak who can never be replaced, but we look forward to what is to come for The No Agenda Show and the Meetup community. We'll miss your 3x3's John! I'm sad to say, but I hope to fix that someday. John you're long and gone but i think he did it on purpose this is Amish anonymous you called me a mish anonymous too many times anyway old age and treachery will always conquer youth in ambition just keep that mind before you get out of line there Adam John C. Dvorak, a great man! We will miss you dearly. Sir Gear is the night of secondhand memes. Over and out. John we'll miss ya. No one can replace ya but uh...we're looking forward to the future This is our Beaven Hour first time at a meet up um just want to send love and light to the Curry's and the Dvoraks

2:29:56 Hey there, it's Sir Parker Pauly. Greetings from Pennsylvania! Great group of people here My condolences to Mimi and the Vorex To Adam and Tina Just lift up No Agenda Nation We're honored to raise a glass And fist some nuts in celebration of John I'm the server This is great group We really enjoyed having them at Evergreen Love it! Another server. Thank you so much everybody, love those Meetup reports keep them coming Today there is a Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday meet up at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina at 7 o'clock on Friday the ITM Richmond Empty Room at Tribal

2:30:39 Crossing in Fulton, Richmond Virginia at 4.30 Saturday we've got Fort Wayne Club 33 JC Wine Review and Vinegar Book Meetup at 1 o'clock in Cibola's Mexican Grill in Fort Wayne Indiana also on Saturday the I Don't Buy It Just Chicago JCD Memorial 2 o'clock at Island Pizza Hut in Chicago Illinois The 22nd, also Saturday. Let's honor the legendary JCD 6 o'clock at JJ's Pie Company in Reno Nevada Flippers and the Formula on Saturday, 2 o'clock in Chattanooga at the Pinball Museum in Chattanooga Tennessee. On Sunday the Indy NA August JCD Greek slash Irish Wake that's gonna be a banger it's Dame Maria and Sir Mark of The Greenwood 3 o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis Indiana you got to beat that one also The Ants In The Antipodes or antipodes?

2:31:34 333 Aussie East Standard Time that is at the Gasoline Pony in New South Wales, Aussieland. Sir Chris the Drunken Minstrel will be hosting that so please go I want to hear a meetup report The Central Arkansas JCD Memorial Meet-Up will also take place on Sunday at 6 o'clock in Arkansas and you've got to check NoahJennerMeetups.com for details, dude named Jarrett now in Arkansas will be hosting that coming up the rest of this month Maastricht in Limburg in the Netherlands on the 28th to 29th Nanaimo British Columbia also on a 29th Albuquerque New Mexico Rhode Island Zurich Switzerland on the 29th Chester Springs Pennsylvania on the 30th and Raleigh North Carolina also in the 30th we've got a lot more meetups the calendar is full but never too far

2:32:23 to have yours added there, so go to noagentandmeetups.com you can find out where a meetup is taking place near you and as always it's free to attend it's free to set one up every single time you go to a meetup you will find connection that will give you protection these people are always your first responders in an emergency noagentandmeetups.com if you can't find oneself Start one yourself. It's easy and always a party! Well, it's very weird to be starting and ending a show without my friend partner and fellow broadcaster John C. Dvorak But he is in my thoughts and definitely in my prayers for real every single day Thank you all for being here trolls. Thank You troll room dot I know agenda stream calm I forgot to mention that of course we have the wonderful modern podcast apps that make it all possible where you get the

2:33:37 When you get the bat signal, you can listen live and of course always on the podcast if using a modern podcast app at PodcastApps.com You'll get notified within 90 seconds of us publishing Now if you are listening live stay tuned because we've got grumpy old dames coming up next They will be bringing you The Dead Man's Curve I'm not sure what that means No end of show mixes, because I play them in the show now. So they're just show mixes! Send them to me at adammccurry.com Thank you all for being here. Thank you to Rob Dew from alexjoneslive.com Much appreciated brother and i look forward To seeing everybody back here on Sunday with another special guest And im sure it'll be fun when we figure out who its gonna be Until then

2:34:24 Remember us at noagendadonations.com for the value for value Adios, mofos! Hooey hooey and such The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo! Dvorak dot org slash N-A Nanny nanny boo boo stick your head in doo doo