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00:00 I am free, I am unshackled. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, February 22nd, 2026. This is your award-winning Kibble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1845. This is no agenda. We've got shots fired. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texan Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we discovered the aliens are already here, I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to say anything but we do a second half of show, all of a sudden the alien files are being released. I don't want to take credit, but I think... Coincidence? I think not. President Trump says he'll be directing the Pentagon and other government agencies to identify and release files related to extraterrestrials and UFOs.

00:57 Trump made the announcement on social media last night, hours after he accused former President Barack Obama of disclosing classified information during a podcast interview. Obama later clarified that he had not seen evidence of alien contact, but that the odds are good that life is out there because the universe is vast. Alright, I'm going to predict something. We're going to see absolutely nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. As usual, absolutely nothing. It's good to be back. Of course, did you hear the... Wow, you sound really bassy today. What have you done? I sound bassy now? Yeah, you sound like... I have no controls over the bass, or the horizontal, or the vertical. Well, I don't know. You have your regular mic? Yeah, nothing's changed. Maybe it's just...

01:49 Maybe like a fine wine you're... I'm kidding, Basie. Basie, you're with age. So did you hear the Hillary... to get the show off to the right start, did you hear the Hillary interview at the BBC? No, Hillary on the BBC? What is she doing on the BBC? Well, she's... well, you tell me. You keep saying that you didn't know Jeffrey Epstein, but your husband flew with him 26 times to party butt-naked in the island with some girls. And most people say that you killed Jeffrey Epstein to silence him, just like the other hundreds of mysterious deaths surrounding you and your husband. So are you sure you didn't know Jeffrey Epstein?

02:33 Okay, look just because I killed the guy doesn't mean I knew the guy okay, okay? And can you please stop asking me questions about Jeffrey Epstein a lot of reporters can go missing you know Accidents do happen people shoot themselves in the back three times if you know what I mean anyway. Let's talk about something else Wow, throwing out the AI clip of the day right away, huh? I actually do, I have some, I have a report from Channel 4 in the UK, which is not AI. but does, I think was kind of relevant to hear. A Channel 4 news investigation today reveals that all those pictures, emails, videos and messages released by the Department of Justice, said to be over 3 million pages, may amount to just a fraction of the Epstein material obtained by investigators.

03:29 Why do we think that? Because these raids on Epstein's properties, his Florida mansion in 2005 and his fancy New York townhouse and sprawling luxury island in 2019 saw dozens of devices, computers, hard drives and servers bagged and tagged and brought to FBI offices for examination. Now emails examined by Channel 4 News show investigators discussing those very devices. From the earliest stages, investigators were talking about Epstein's data, totalling many, many times what has so far been released.

04:08 in June 2020 one wrote we expect the data to be somewhere around 20 to 40 terabytes noting that the total capacity of the devices was up to 50 terabytes then as recently as last year long after the investigation into Epstein and his associates had ended the figures quoted Remained massive. We're looking at a total of approximately 14.6 terabytes of archived data, said another email. Where is this archived data? Where's this 14.6 terabytes of data? So I went through the first 3,000 photos. Wow. See, I leave the show for a week and I cannot trust you.

04:56 Right away you're going to the photos. Okay, so what did you find? So I've come to a conclusion that was a little different and I think all this is I think Trump is probably right This is a mountain out of a moat hill. Mm-hmm when you what look at all the photos and you see the layouts of the Of his private would I consider I'll tell you what my thesis is. He was running a private hotel Yeah, that was a brothel. That was a whorehouse. Mm-hmm for high-end customers that that are billionaires probably almost exclusively, but I'm sure there's a few hundred millionaires in there who can't in the real world get laid. Somebody like Reid Hoffman who's worth I think 2.5 billion. Now how did he get his money, Reid Hoffman? LinkedIn. Oh he sold LinkedIn to Microsoft. Microsoft. Right. He got his money from Microsoft. Yeah, it's all in the family bill.

05:54 And a billion dollars, if you have a billion dollars, that brings in 50 million dollars a year at 5%, which is a lot of money. But you can't trust women because they're gonna take it for your money. You can't trust a hooker. All women, all women. You never trust a hooker. Nope, nope, nope. Well, you could trust a hooker, but not if you're worth a billion dollars. It's just a problem. And so Epstein has set up shop and if you look at the floor plans, you can see he has all kinds of rooms, different suites. There's about 30 rooms in his... Well, I was listening to Wexner, some of his testimony, and he was saying, yeah, the place was a was a craphole. It was no good. It was like a... They were fixing it up. It was still being fixed up as they were taking... And the worst was they had the pictures that when they go to St. John's Island,

06:46 That place was incomplete. There were still unfinished rooms, they were still working on it, there was cabanas, but it's designed for these high-end guys. But let me ask you a question. Do you think that as a brothel that it was used to, pardon the pun, curry favor or do you think that there still was some blackmail at play? No, but what's the point? That's what I was thinking about. What's the point of blackmailing somebody? Let's say the fee is a million bucks. You join this little, you know, as in you make an investment and want to or you give Jeffrey some some consulting money That's the fee to be to go to this place and you go to the place and they and they have they said they had a catalog with Different girls you pick one or two out near your companions. Yeah, and they you know, wait a minute Where did you hear about this catalog?

07:41 The catalog came out about a couple weeks ago. It was like pick and choose? Like point and click? Yeah, like a pick and choose. It was glossed over. But it was like a pick and choose thing. So you go to the place and he also had comedians staying there because you comp rooms to guys. They're not going to get any action but you know you give them a room and they hang out. You want a fun guy to talk with at the bar? Yeah, if you're gonna go to the bar and some of these places have kitchenettes and meanwhile if you look at the whole all the pictures you see they had a big laundry room just like a hotel does they had a big central kitchen just like a hotel does for room service. The sludder log I like that I'm writing that down sludder log it's not a catalog it's a sludder log. Yes. Okay. It was just it was it looked just like a private hotel

08:29 And you don't blackmail people for that because you're already getting a million bucks, let's say a year, for them to be a member of this place. And what are you gonna blackmail them for? What are you gonna blackmail Reid Hoffman for? Curry favors the guy? What is he? He just floats around podcasts. He doesn't do anything. I mean, there's no reason, and he's over at the place all the time because, you know, if you're kind of a fat billionaire with not much of a personality, this is perfect. And so that's all it was. And the CIA, if they were keeping tabs on anybody, it was just so they keep notes. And all this surveillance, which we have no evidence, you know, they're not showing us anything. The surveillance was for surveilling the girls. They didn't want the girls doing deals on the side. They didn't want the girls stealing from the guys. Oh, I like that theory. All right. Well, that's what you would do at a high-end place like this. That's what you do.

09:24 Girls catering to billionaires and you can't take a chance. And then on the side you can say, hey you know I got some inside info from my boy over there, Mandelson, and you know you could make a killing right now on the foreign exchange because they're about to bail out the euro. So you could pick up some tips along the way. You probably did pick up some tips along the way but that wasn't the main business. I figured he could do $50 million a year just maintaining that place. And that's all it was. And the fact that they're making it such a fuss, now that I think about it, what Trump has to say about it, because he knew what was going on, because he's in New York real estate.

10:05 Everybody knew what was going on. So you're telling me that there were no children that were being eaten and no pizza with grape soda? That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. And you should also note that 17 years old is the age of consent in New York City or in New York State. Oh, really? Well, that's an outrage. Oh, outrage. And so they said, OK, so they had some 17 year olds in there. Now, the rest of it was all speculation about the younger I mean, I'm sure some people tried to horn in, but no, this was a professionally, this was a kind of a genius marketing just going for a high class clientele. There's 200 billionaires in California alone. Yeah, it's a pain in the butt though to have to travel to the East Coast and go to that island. Well, I'm just saying California alone, the funny, a lot of them are back East, they have places in New York.

10:59 I mean, and they can travel in their private jets, you know, if they're gonna have a good time. You know, what's really interesting is that because of this Epstein stuff... Everything, everything that people, certainly people who are online and posting and reading and wrapped up in it, everything is through the lens of Epstein. Like Supreme Court decision over tariffs, oh, someone's got some compromise on Epstein stuff. It's like everything, everything is amazing. That's the lens that people just see the stuff through right now, except for,

11:36 New Mexico representative Andrea Romero, who is putting together a truth commission about Zorro Ranch. New Mexico's State House of Representatives is now creating a bipartisan committee to investigate the property that Jeffrey Epstein once owned in the state known as Zorro Ranch. They're investigating it for allegations of criminal activity. The committee plans to partner with the New Mexico Department of Justice for this deep dive. allegations of abuse and sexual assault possibly committed at Zora Ranch. And joining us now to discuss is Democratic State Representative Andrea Romero, one of the bill's sponsors. Representative, thanks for joining us. So no one opposed this measure, so the committee, the Truth Commission, will be created. How does it feel to have this over the finish line?

12:23 Well, it feels like we're just beginning really, truly. We have been thinking about this for a while, trying to find the mechanisms in place to make sure that we can be apolitical and ready to do business. The reality for this commission is something that our community desperately needs and needs to know about. This is information that we're all trying to put together nationwide and worldwide about what went on and how it went on. And for us in New Mexico, it is so critical that we get this story straight. And this is really interesting because there's not a lot known about Zorro Ranch other than... Yeah, he's probably still setting it up. This was your... This is... This, by the way... Hold on. Wait. I'm just gonna say, this is the West Coast version so these guys, like you just said, have to fly all the way to New York. No, they're gonna fly to New Mexico. Let me read this. The age of consent in New Mexico is 16. Oh, man. You've got... Do you have a cheat sheet?

13:22 What's the age of consent? I'm telling you this whole thing was just a massive... No, I'm not arguing against that. No, I like where you could argue a little bit. No, I don't feel like arguing at all. No, I think I'm kind of on board with it. You know, the thing is that people are like, you know, traffic children, America is the worst. You know, while this has been going on, probably 1,200 to 1,300 actual sick pedophiles have been arrested. No one talks about it. There's all kinds of operations going on. Actual children under the age of 16 have been freed from sex predator rings that involve local sheriffs and lawyers and dentists. I don't know why I said dentist, but there was a dentist. That gets zero coverage. It's the most bizarre thing.

14:11 And this is not bizarre because it doesn't involve Trump. There you go. This whole Zorro Ranch, this truth commission appears to be based upon an email sent to a local DJ about eight years ago. There's an email in the Epstein files released by the Department of Justice that mentions Zorro Ranch. It's an unverified claim. The two women are buried there, two women who died by strangulation. The sender of this email has been redacted by the DOJ. It was sent to a local radio host who told CNN he believes it came from someone who worked on the ranch. He passed the email on to the FBI when it was sent in 2019. Does your committee intend to push the Justice Department for more answers regarding that email?

15:00 Yes, we do. And we will go to the fullest extent of the law to get those answers. The reality that we understand is that that email was sent and our then Attorney General requested that the federal government investigate these claims. That there was a request to do that back in 2019, but unfortunately those requests went unanswered by the federal government. You know, we feel very challenged that we have to be forced to do this ourselves in New Mexico when those requests went unanswered then. Here we are seven years later trying to pick up the pieces. Now you catch the bit there 2018 during Trump so Trump had that hidden. That's the implication there.

15:46 Yep. Now of course Epstein was into all kinds of bio stuff and he was, you know, this is why he was hanging out with Weinstein and all these people. He was always trolling for the next big thing. What can we invest in, get a great IPO out of it? And then there's the DNA replication scheme. There was an unusual report in the New York Times in 2019 that mentions Zora Ranch. Jeffrey Epstein at one point quote hoped to see seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch." That's what Elon Musk does for real. The New York Times report says there's no evidence this plan ever came to any sort of fruition, but is this some sort of scientific scheme of Epstein's that you plan to investigate as well?

16:34 Absolutely. These allegations are horrifying. What's so horrifying about it? Horrifying. What went on, we have heard from victims that they may have woken up in very strange places. Where are these victims? He's dead, so why can't they speak out? I find this all... This is a really difficult process to understand. And that's so critically why we need to know what the truth was. Who were the folks in the room? Who knew what happened? And why were these never investigated? Especially if victims came from

17:10 forward. There it is, why wasn't it investigated all during Trump? This is what's so critical about the public understanding how this happened and certainly if folks came forward on a crime, why was this never investigated? So yes, we are looking to these various records and again every single day learn something horrifying about what went on. or allegedly went on. Yeah, except she has nothing horrifying to tell. Wait, oh wait, wait, there's more! Are there other claims about Zora Ranch in the Epstein files that you intend to look into further? Yes, absolutely. I mean, the claims are absolutely sprawling and certainly very concerning. We have allegations of everything from sex abuse and trafficking to harming children of very young ages.

17:55 It's horrifying what we're learning, it seems, every single day. But we're committed to telling the truth and making sure that there is a record and if needed it would be pursued in the court of law. Well, it wasn't investigated for a lot of reasons, but one of them is that the alleged perpetrators are very, very powerful, wealthy people. Are you ready for that? You know, this is unfortunately, well fortunately why we are a bipartisan commission. You know, we're not here to play politics about anything. We're really here to go on a fact-finding mission. Who was involved? And we understand even in our state that it was the highest echelons of people who are being named in these files. And so for us, it's about making sure that no stone is unturned. Whoever it is that we find that may have been a perpetrator in these crimes,

18:44 will be named, they will be named and we will recognize what went on here. And so yes, the stretch is very wide and potentially very deep, but we will make sure that the public knows what happened. Yeah, well so far. We've got some fun names like Pritzker from from the Hyatt and of course He's a he must be related billionaire. Yeah billionaire Pritzker. We got the the douchebag Wasserman from LA We've got Prince Andrew Prince Andrew is the guy is probably getting screwed in all of this Yeah, there's a lot of people that think that

19:24 But Chris, he brought it on himself. Well, yeah, he's also a dope. He's a den-a-douche. He's always been a dope and a douche, yes. He always has been that, and we all know that. If you see a picture of him when he's really young, you can see why. He was actually a pretty good looking guy when he was young. When he married Fergie, if you see some of those early wedding pictures, he's one of those guys who relied on his looks. Well, Fergie also looked really good back in the day. Yeah, and she did the same thing. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But yes, this is... And a couple of players in this, based on my thesis, you wanna look into, Virginia Gouffre.

20:02 I would advise reading her wiki page. She is a troubled person. The wiki page explains it quite well. I was very skeptical when she came out and by the way, the first interview she did, let's say she's a working girl or became one under Epstein. She charged $160,000 for that interview and got it. She... Wait, for the book or for... No, the first interview in 2011 when she broke this thing wide open. This thing was going on for years, this club. And she broke it open in 2011 by complaining. And she didn't get a piece of the... I see she wanted more money. I don't know what the real basis was. We never know.

20:49 But, uh... Well, the whole... What I found to be odd is that she was hit by a bus and then she wasn't and then she committed suicide. You know, her whole death is... Everything is sketchy. Questionable. I mean, I love that Jake Tapper, how he puts it. He had... Another representative on listen to this one of Epstein's most prominent victims Virginia Jufre who's no longer with us. She left. It was mean no longer with us. I mean she's not in the studio She's not available for interviews Why didn't you just say she committed suicide? It's just a small thing just a small irritation who knows that we don't know What do you have on Prince Andrew?

21:38 Oh, this is the report that was, I think this is from BBC or NPR. No, I mean what kind of dirt do you have on him? Don't you have evidence? I'm just kidding. On Prince Andrew? Just kidding. Just kidding. Oh, I see what you're doing. Just kidding. I'm sorry. I'm sorry slow. I'm gonna get this big bassy voice now. Yes Are you in a different network than you usually are no? because it's also Robocopping a little bit from time to time. Oh, I can change networks Well, why don't you do it while I play the first clip you want me to change networks? Yeah, but I'll you change networks while I play the clip that you want me to play Hold on a second. I gotta make sure I can do this okay

22:21 Because I haven't changed networks for so long that I don't want to like... We're doing it live, people! Doing it live! But see, this is my whole point was... I think I can do it. I gotta figure it out. Okay, yeah, I got a bunch of stuff here that's worth playing. Since you don't want to hear any more of the thesis. I thought this is part of the thesis. I got your thesis. I hear your thesis. No, I think the only thing I had to... in addition to the thesis because you were there I got the Prince Andrew Clip about you do whatever you want I'm gonna say the last thing in the thesis is Elon Musk okay who wanted to join the club he knew about it and they wouldn't it's it's exclusive club you had to they you took one look at Elon Musk is already getting a bunch of sex from women he's paying five million dollars to supposedly so Epstein was a deal

23:17 He would have been but he's also he you take a look at Elon. Elon's got a big mouth You don't need some guy who's gonna be yakking about it. Just I got a casual podcast the next week Yeah, I'm over at this. This is actually a whorehouse, you know, who knows what would happen. He couldn't let him in he rebuked him I like it. All right. Okay, that's it. That's basically let's go to Prince Andrew. This is Scott Simon on NPR. Suffer and suck a tash. I'm Scott. Thank you. Simon Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, brother of King Charles, spent his 66th birthday in a police station this week. He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office after revelations in the Jeffrey Epstein files that he'd shared confidential trade information with the convicted sex offender.

24:11 The former prince was released after 11 hours. He is denied any wrongdoing. Jenny Bond has covered the royal family for decades and spent 14 years as the BBC's royal correspondent and joins us now from London. Jenny, thanks so much for being with us. My pleasure, my pleasure. Just how damaging is this scandal? Well, it's a huge story over here. The papers have been dominated by it for days, even weeks. And this weekend it is page after page after page of analysis of what this means for the monarchy. Just how damaging is it? Clearly it is tarnishing the reputation of the monarchy but

24:53 The palace are very keen to separate monarchy from family. It's a difficult separation. But I think the view, the predominant view is that Charles has acted pretty decisively, maybe a bit too late, but pretty decisively in this. And the big news today, the main line, is whether or not Andrew is now going to be removed from the line of succession because incredibly he is still eighth in line of succession. Yeah this is something that always comes up whenever there's some kind of scandal in the UK. Oh it's a threat to the monarchy, threat to the monarchy. It's never a threat to the monarchy. What are they gonna do? What are they gonna do to the monarchy? What are they gonna do?

25:35 Threaten it. Kick him out, kick him out of Buckingham Palace. No, a threat. It's a threat. Just a threat. Shake your fist. Yeah, exactly. This seems to be like the pastime for the Brits. Oh, threat to the monarchy. What will we do? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty much... Let's go to two. Of course King Charles said in his statement, the law must take its course and has not intervened. But what about the argument that they've been aware of serious allegations against Andrew for years and have effectively protected him? Yes, this is the other big debate that's going on and I think now we are at a stage where we are

26:12 demanding more transparency, more accountability. I think people do want to know exactly that. What did the Royal Family know about Andrews going on? Well with Epstein as regards the sex abuse allegations but also now the why he was arrested was because of alleged misconduct in public office when he was trade envoy. So we've got two strands going on here, at least two. And we've now got more than 11, I think it is, police forces in this country circling Andrew, investigating different strands and there is this overriding feeling that the Palace have got to give up this whole idea of never complain, never explain,

26:56 Abandon the old myth which goes back to the 1800s. You must not let daylight into the magic of monarchy. It's all nonsense now. No, this is what it's always been. I watch The Crown. All they care about is what's in the paper. Hey, you got more ink than I did. Oh no, that's all they care about. And I consider that to be true. They don't care. They are wretched soulless people. It's a horrible gig and they have you know colluded bloodlines, cousins and all kinds of stuff.

27:37 But somehow they still own a lot. They own a lot of land. They have massive holdings. I think the British royal family is estimated 50 billion, which I think is an underestimation. That's probably low. That's what I think too. And they're not allowed to sell the land, but this is why they have leasehold in the UK. Oh, you can build your house here, but you have to pay us rent for 99 years. then it renews. It's just like, I think everything... The fact doesn't... the Queen is dead but didn't she own an island that's not even part of the UK? I don't know. That's... I forgot. People out there know what I'm talking about. Wouldn't surprise me. Let's go to the last of this. There is some feeling, as I probably don't have to tell you, in the United States that

28:29 Well, there's some admiration for the British legal system. Admiration? Yeah, I understand that, but Converse... Yes, because of the Whigs! I've been reading reports this morning saying that... Hold on a second, stop. You have to listen to this one. This is unbelievable. This is the... we're talking... we've done two segments, okay? Can we do something to kind of slam Trump? Is there any way we can work Trump into this? Bring him in, bring him in. Yeah, I understand that but conversely I've been reading reports this morning saying that if the Americans haven't decided to release the Epstein files then we wouldn't be where we are now and so I suppose for that we should be grateful. But yes, I think that legitimately you could ask now whether the American authorities should go further with the people, not least President Trump who has been at least mentioned many times in the Epstein files. He says he's been exonerated, I know and perhaps he has been

29:21 but I think the King has acted very decisively here. I mean, we were gobsmacked. Veterans correspondents like myself who've lived through decades of scandals and crises from the deaths and divorces, the Fergie being found topless, having her toe suctioned in the south of France, the castle catching fire, rows about whether the Queen should pay taxes, all of that has been dreadful. Of course, the death of Diana as well. But I think we have been impressed by the way the King has taken this straight on and saying very clearly in a sentence that stood out on its own, let me state clearly the law must take its course.

30:04 Does he have to say that to preserve the monarchy? Well, I think he does, yes. So a little rundown. People who have had to resign or have gotten into trouble for emails with Epstein. Brad Karp, chairman of Paul and Weiss. He resigned. He's a lawyer, corporate law firm. And that was the first law firm to strike a deal offering pro bono work after Trump targeted attorneys representing his political foes. That's not exactly what it was, but OK. It's a good narrative that they've created. Then we have Kathy Rumler, top counsel, Goldman Sachs.

30:49 White House counsel to former President Obama. Obama? Yes, Obama. Which they left out if you read the newsletter I had the hypocrite of the week. Oh yeah, forget all that. CNN conveniently left that little tidbit out. And she was, heaven forbid. And she in the emails was downplaying his sex crimes. Go figure. Casey Wasserman, I talked about him, the Hollywood agent and I guess now they're calling for him to resign from the Los Angeles 28th Olympic Committee. Yeah, that's a good one. Everyone should resign from the Olympic Committee. I don't think any of them are any good. Peter, Peter, Peter, they're always... Yeah, you're right. Those people are always really sketchy in every country. Even if it's just the local IOC. Peter Attia, who was he? He was... wasn't he with CBS? I don't remember. Yeah, I think he's a contributor to CBS. Steve Tisch.

31:47 Chairman, co-owner of the Giants. Howard Lutnick. Everyone wants him to resign. Of course, he's Trump's guy. Mandelson, obviously. Morgan McSweeney. That's the advisor to Starmer. I said, hey, you can appoint that guy. It's not a problem. Norway's former prime minister, Thorbjørn Jagland. Jack Lang, French politician. And then my favorite, Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulaym, and he enjoyed the torture video. Yeah, he's the one who enjoyed the torture video. How can we... what torture video was this? You think they'd release that? That sounds salacious. Yes, that sounds good. So, but what has happened here? And we were watching... last night we watched a... And by the way, I can explain that with my whorehouse theory too. Okay.

32:43 There are some women out there, it doesn't take a genius to track them down, who are complete unbelievable masochists and who would probably agree for a fat fee to be tortured and like it. Oh man. Sorry. W-H-T, the whorehouse theory. We're gonna leave it in. What this has done though, globally, because I read the Dutch papers, people send me German articles which I can kind of get through, and there is complete distrust, lack in all government. And Tina and I were watching yesterday, we just came across it on Netflix, Breakdown 1975.

33:27 Which is good. Yeah, it's very good. I can watch I guess I've been watching Australian murder mysteries. It's how bad it's gotten so breakdown 1975 is it's really it's a fractal is what it is you you'll love it because they they look at the year 1975 from a popular culture point of view so movies and television primarily yeah, and When you look at that time, it was so similar. We had scandals, you know, we had Watergate, New York was a shithole, rats were everywhere. This is where movies come out like Taxi Driver, you know, Death Wish, Charles Bronson. Blackboard Jungle. All of this stuff. And it's very analogous to now.

34:22 With the exception that it's probably not quite as bad today as it was then. And what came out of this... Yet. Yet, yeah. Well, and so maybe we're a little bit late because by 1976 things started to change and before you knew it we had yuppies and we had, you know, Jane Fonda was doing workout videos. But it's worth watching. It's narrated by Jodie Foster who was in Taxi Driver as I think a 13 year old. Yeah, yeah, and oh and they pinpointed it. This was interesting. They pinpointed so they had jaws jaws was a big change where They shifted from the bad guy winning to the good guy winning and blowing up the shark. And then as they claim in this documentary kind of... Yes, there was a period of time in the movies especially where the anti-hero was the key. Epitomized by Steve McQueen in a number of films. And what was the other one with the bank heist?

35:21 Yeah, that was the Steve McQueen. No, no, no, no, no, that wasn't it dog day afternoon. Was that it? No, I'm trying to think what dog day afternoon was is really a sickening film. That was the bank heist wasn't it? No, I don't know. That was the one dog day afternoon. Wasn't that where they surrounded? It was like not as bad as the one where they surround the precinct, but it was something like that was a bunch of creeps. Well, all of that. Whatever. Everything was corrupt, everything was rotten, people had no trust. People actually were really starving, starving, starving in our big cities. Protests, everyone hated the cops, everyone hated the politicians. And then all of a sudden, we got Rocky.

35:59 And then everything changed. Like, oh, all right, we got this guy and he makes it up all the way to the top and he's running, he's doing his stuff. And then things started to change. So I'm just waiting for the pivotal movie to come along. Yeah, but the difference is, there's a major difference here. One is that we had an economic downturn that started in 1969 and went throughout through the 70s, very similar to, and parallel, almost completely parallel to the 30s where you had the bottom of the thing bottomed out in 33 as it did in 73 and then you had a kind of a renaissance and two years later in 35 and the movies in 30s and 70s are similar in their creativity. But it was all based on the fact that the economic downturn has been controlling things. At the point we're at right now, we don't have that. So the parallels are not that consistent. I think that could happen.

36:56 But it won't happen for a couple years. Oh, well that should keep us in business for a while then. I think so. So this led me to, someone sent me a video and the video is just kind of a narration. I'll play it just for explanation's sake. Unless you want to talk more about Epstein or something. Are we kind of done with that? No, I'm done. I got my thesis out there. Now I can hang things off it for the next few shows. It's the whorehouse thesis. We'll take it. Universe 25 experiment. Ever heard of this? No. So, also known as the mouse paradise experiment. Oh, this is where they had all the mice and they all ended up just preening and having sex and the whole colony died out. Yes, I'm familiar with it. Yes. I'm dubious, by the way, about whether this really was a... I have never seen any... I haven't seen the documentation for this. I have. I have. I have. John B. Calhoun.

35:59 And then everything changed. Like, oh, all right, we got this guy and he makes it up all the way to the top and he's running, he's doing his stuff. And then things started to change. So I'm just waiting for the pivotal movie to come along. Yeah, but the difference is, there's a major difference here. One is that we had an economic downturn that started in 1969 and went throughout through the 70s, very similar to, and parallel, almost completely parallel to the 30s where you had the bottom of the thing bottomed out in 33 as it did in 73 and then you had a kind of a renaissance and two years later in 35 and the movies in 30s and 70s are similar in their creativity. But it was all based on the fact that the economic downturn has been controlling things. At the point we're at right now, we don't have that. So the parallels are not that consistent. I think that could happen.

36:56 But it won't happen for a couple years. Oh, well that should keep us in business for a while then. I think so. So this led me to, someone sent me a video and the video is just kind of a narration. I'll play it just for explanation's sake. Unless you want to talk more about Epstein or something. Are we kind of done with that? No, I'm done. I got my thesis out there. Now I can hang things off it for the next few shows. It's the whorehouse thesis. We'll take it. Universe 25 experiment. Ever heard of this? No. So, also known as the mouse paradise experiment. Oh, this is where they had all the mice and they all ended up just preening and having sex and the whole colony died out. Yes, I'm familiar with it. Yes. I'm dubious, by the way, about whether this really was a... I have never seen any... I haven't seen the documentation for this. I have. I have. I have. John B. Calhoun.

37:56 unless it's falsified somehow. I think it could be. I mean, it's too convenient. Well, let's listen to it and let's just take it as real and discuss it because obviously it has a lot of Relevance to today. This is why everyone is single and men stop trying. This is the mouse paradise, a scientific experiment from the 1960s. They made the perfect world for mice with unlimited food, safety and no predators. In the beginning they placed four females and four males and let them multiply. The population exploded. Hundreds then thousands. Then something strange happened. They stopped mating and within four years they were extinct. But why?

38:38 According to scientists, the reason was social interaction overload. Just like humans on social media today. They were in 24-7 interaction with thousands of others. Too much stimulation, too much competition for social status, and this led them to lose the ability to form bonds, to mate and raise their young. Many males became so-called the beautiful ones. They lost interest in females, they just groomed themselves all day and withdrew completely because they could not compete in this chaos anymore. And the females followed by losing interest in males. So no mating and they all just died without having babies. Since 2010 in smartphones, humans are living the same social interaction overload.

39:21 24-7 status competition, income and lifestyle comparison with thousands of others, physical looks to impossible standards. And many young people just choose to withdraw. For the first time in history, young people are having less sex than their parents. 30% of men under 30 had no sex for a year. The loneliness epidemic hits us harder than any virus could. Yeah, that's worse than I thought it would sound to be honest about it so I do have a link from Scientific American so I would yeah, I'd like to see that it does bring me to the phone clips I have here. Well, can I explain it first? You just want to hijack? No, no, I'm just telling you in advance so you don't start jumping to another topic. Oh, it's a trick. You should know that you revealed my You blew it

40:11 John B., this is from PubMed, John B. Calhoun, Population Density and Social Pathology. So it is real. Now of course I haven't looked completely deep into that paper if it's exactly the same, but I'm just going to take it at face value. So the idea is They had enough... I mean, I like the idea. Let's put it that way. But it's a little too convenient for my taste. So they had enough food and space for 3,000 mice. They throw a couple in there. They start mating. They get up to about 2,000, but it's relatively limited space, not like New York City.

40:49 And then suddenly they stop having sex, they're not reproducing. There's a whole class of male mice who become the beautiful ones. They're grooming, they look great, but they won't have sex with anybody. And the conclusion from Calhoun is that it's a social interaction overload. And the comparison that's being made is that we as humans, and this is where I actually question, okay, mice may have similar organs, you can test vaccines on them, but I don't know if we can compare our brains.

41:27 that humans are in a moment of social interactive overload and thus we become more interested in not actually reproducing but looking great on Instagram and preeming and I think about that like yeah, that is exactly what is happening because there's just too much interaction with not just on social media but in general. You're texting, you've got alerts, you've got this going on, you've got that going on. I think there's something to it. Well yeah, the problem is it's too convenient. Too convenient for what? It matches up too well. Oh, social interaction, coincidentally.

42:09 We have the same thing going on with the media or social media because the end you bet but you've been harping on this and you're susceptible you're this is almost like bias confirmation with you because you've always had this thesis for the last 20 years about over socialization under something or other. Yes, so I am in fact in fact Calhoun stole this from me. That's what it almost sounds like. I saw this too and I didn't clip it, I'm glad you did. So it's going around? I'm not the only one who saw it, it's going around? Oh yeah, no it's going around. It was on Twitter. Or XXX.

42:53 Talking about that brings me to the cell phone conversation which is going on, which is the cell phone is the real problem here at some level. Before we go on, I think we need to call it something else. It's not a phone. Who uses these to call someone? Very few people nowadays. We need to call it just on it scrolling and they're holding it as a it's and they're also holding it all the time when the Again, I'd give you credit for this one because I didn't catch it right away But you could because I keep my iPhone in a drawer But you noticed that and I've noticed it now now I see it's and it's actually gotten worse Walk around. Yeah the street holding the phone and

43:35 Like it's like some pet or something. They have to have the phone in their hand. Yeah, well... While walking down the street. I have to... It's like a controlling slab or a... A controlling slab. Security slab. I mean this... You're on, you're getting there. Yeah, I like the slab thing. I'd like freedom controller. I've used that for different things throughout the, you know, 30 years. So maybe that's not... No, no, it's no good. A controller slab. That's really truly what it is. I had an interesting... Something interesting happened, I was in Nashville all last week, Friday morning, I get up and I had that funky flip phone from the, I had, you'll find out why, from Samsung, the Galaxy Z Flip. Oh yeah, that one. I broke the previous one.

44:28 I'm like, okay, and that was my own fault because these things are just so fragile. And so we got a new one and I wake up and I go to unplug the phone and it's hot. Like, wow, it was hot. And I see the battery going like 95, 90, 89. It's going down pretty quick. So I plug it in, you know, it kind of hovers between 85 and 87, it's going up and down. I don't know what's going on with this. So we had meetings, had to get to the airport. And so here's your modern life. This is the way I had planned it is, oh, I'll just get an Uber from the hotel to the airport. Nashville is like 15 minutes. And so I have 35% by, it's one o'clock. I haven't used the phone at all to get the Uber.

45:11 Get in the Uber, I see it going down, going down. Now, luckily I was still able to retrieve my reservation number so I get my paper ticket because I don't do any tickets on the phone. I go through TSA and this thing dies. And I'm thinking like, I can't tell Tina that I'm on my way, I can't tell the person who's gonna pick me up at the airport. And I'm like, well, I can plug it in on the plane, that'll be good and I'll probably get some juice out of it. Of course, I have the only Southwest 737 that has no power, no USB, nothing. And like, this thing has way too much importance in my life. And I'm not talking about X or anything like that, just for some simple things in travel.

45:55 Yep, it's a controller controlling slab then controller slab maybe my son better controller slab Yeah, and or control because it control yeah, but you're got the right word Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be getting there. I'm getting it has nothing to do with the phone calling it a phone is weak and pathetic And here was the next thought I had. Because of the constant holding it in your hand, I got to have it with me. Oh, in case I need to take a picture. Now with the AI chat bots and I should mention this thing is fried You know some something got short-circuited It's completely fried It'll never come back to life and I went back to my graphene OS and I'm fine with that on my pixel 6a I'm done with it, but I But in the course of trying to troubleshoot this thing I

46:50 You know, I'm going through, I'm on Gemini, I'm like, okay. I'm at a certain point, I have a USB cable hooked up. I am SSH-ing into the phone, because there's basic Unix, a Unix kernel underneath. I'm doing H top, I'm looking at what is eating the processors. I'm looking at all the apps, and all of a sudden it's like, hi, I'm Bixby. How can I help you today? Bixby, who are you? Samsung has just installed Bixby the robot on the phone and you look at all this stuff. Meta, I've never had a meta app on this phone. It has something in there. It's trolling, it's doing all kinds of stuff. This is a horrible thing. They pack it filled with all kinds of junk and spyware and so-called helpful things. You just want to swipe a window away. Oh, here's Google AI.

47:45 Oh, would you like to change this picture? Hi, I'm Gemini. Would you like me to help you compose the next email? No! No! Stop going like that! And here's the thinking I had. This robot stuff is a distraction. Let's presume for a second AI is really intelligent. We know it's not. But to me the AI has a huge advantage. It already has humanoid movement. It tells people what to do. We are the robots. The way people are going talking to these chatbots and the brain is in the phone and you are the robot. It's gonna tell you what, it already tells us how to drive. It already tells us everything else, how to dress, oh it's cold.

48:34 We're being assimilated and I think... Not me. No, not you, I know. I'm just catching myself. Oh no, this has got to stop. It's got to stop, it's not stopping. It's exactly the reverse. And you and all these worries of yours because you couldn't call the Uber because the phone was dead. If you were one of the kids today... I'd be dead. No, you'd be fine. You'll figure it out when you play these cell phone clips why you'd be fine. All right, let me see. Where are these cell phone clips? Are they labeled cell phone clips? Yeah, they're labeled cell. All right, cell phones in school number one. Is this NPR?

49:17 Yes, it is. We're halfway through the school year. For millions of students, that means they should be heading to class without their cell phones. More than 30 states have now enacted some kind of ban, and that includes Kentucky. NPR's Sequoia Carrillo checked in with educators and students in Louisville, which has one of the strictest policies in the state. They told her the ban is not quite working out the way it was supposed to. Good morning. How are you all doing? Holly Smith is in her second year as executive principal at the Academy at Shawnee. She says she can already see a big difference from a semester without cell phones. We didn't even know the majority of the kids were learning because they weren't responding. They were just doing things on their phones. But now there's discourse. They're like, OK, I actually feel like I'm connecting now.

50:01 Now, Jefferson County's policy is strict. Each student has a yonder pouch, a locked bag for them to carry their phones throughout the day. They have to put them in the bags when they walk in the school in the morning and can unlock them as they exit the school at the end of the day. It's a well-laid plan, one that many schools around the country have adopted, and researchers have touted as the best approach to the issue of cell phones in schools. But the But the real question is, is it working? I asked Smith what the students think. I mean, I think they absolutely hate it. Their phone is their lives. It's their world. Jaden O'Neill, a senior here, couldn't agree more. I think all the students hate it. I think they're going to rebel more. She's one of three students who agreed to talk to us in the school's library right before their lunch period. I just want to make a note of the term yonder pouch. I think this would be an excellent premium.

50:54 I don't even know what it is, but I like how it sounds. A yonder pouch. Well, you should talk to the No Agenda shop. Maybe they can make a yonder pouch. Is that just a little bag you put your phone in? I think it's a bag, yeah. It probably may have some mesh in there, I would hope. So I'm going to just presume that of course the kids are happy, it's great, I feel better in class. Whereas, you know, they're in a controlled environment. They can't last for three seconds outside of the school without their controller slab. I think you may be wrong. Take me back to August, like right when you come back to school, what is it like having to lock up your phone? In August, it was like you'd walk in the doors and they'd tell you to find the pouch that had your name on it.

51:38 and then they watched you lock it up and it was like most kids either brought a spare phone or they said they didn't have a phone or they broke the pouches and cut them open. People brought a spare phone. They just had an extra phone. They had multiple extra phones. We also talked to senior Quanay Lanier. They have multiple extra phones for their friends. I asked junior Joseph Jolly whether students are abiding by the ban. I would say that the The risks from being caught are definitely more enforced. So people often, they're really worried about that. But I would otherwise say they mostly just put them in their pockets and they call it a day. There is rules. Like if you have your phone, I will take it. But it's not enough for people to care. I know one day they're not going to say anything. So I'm just going to keep doing it regardless. As we talked, students were moving through the halls between classes.

52:28 Most kids were chatting, but a few still had headphones on. And one had a phone out taking a selfie video. Jolly said we wouldn't necessarily see the same thing inside the classroom. People know they're going to get in trouble if they keep it out. They've started to actually focus on work. And I think we've become more productive because of that. I think they just find alternative things to do. Or they just talk more to their friends. Okay, so kind of at the end there. So you have the, that's what you, do you see the kids are smart. They have multiple phones. They're dragging, they're like Wall Street brokers. They have three phones. Drug dealers. If you'd have brought your other phone, you would have been fine. Oh, I forgot to mention, I forgot to mention. So when you, uh, one of the instructions, the brilliant Gemini AI gave me,

53:26 was to clear out the Google Play framework data. Clear cache, clear data. Then immediately my phone went, I can't log in anything, there's nothing we can do. But you can log into Google, I guess for, I don't even know what it was, but nothing was working. Say, okay, I'll log into Google and I have my username, I have my password, and it says, you don't have any pass keys. No, I've never set that up. Well, it's okay. Just grab your other phone and tap on the icon that matches the one I'm showing you now. I have one phone. Loser.

54:11 You have to have your secondary device with you. What is that all about? That's insane. Even the kids know better. It's, yes, it's very bad. In fact, there was a, yeah, well, let's do that. How about the lawsuit, the meta lawsuit? The people are saying they got addicted to Instagram. You've heard about this. I think it's in Arizona, I believe is where it's playing. Actually, I have not heard of it, but it doesn't surprise me. Well, luckily enough, our girl Kara Swisher, who you personally gave media training to, joined up with Anderson Cooper to talk about this. But go ahead, Kara.

55:02 It's breaking news Mark Zuckerberg, the powerful CEO of Meta. It's breaking news. Testified in a landmark trial in Los Angeles today where social media companies are accused of intentionally addicting children to their platforms. Now Meta owns Instagram which is a defendant in the suit. This is the first time that Zuckerberg has testified in front of a jury on claims that social media harms children's mental health. He's testifying as a witness, not a defendant in this case, which was brought by a woman who claims the companies designed their products to addict her when she was a child, damaging her mental health. Hundreds of more cases like this have been filed. Kara Swisher joins me now, host of the podcast On with Kara Swisher and Pivot. How big

55:43 A moment does this feel like to you? How big a moment? Obviously it's a landmark case. We've seen Zuckerberg testifying there. Courtroom is a different arena. Yeah, I think it's just yet another appearance and doing the same thing where they've done nothing over the many years and then they have these testimonies of parents that feel like their kids have gotten hurt or there's safety issues or addiction issues and they sort of sail by them. I mean this is obviously a court case but it's sort of more of the same. I've been hearing this from Zuckerberg since I met him essentially is that everybody wants to use these apps because they're so fantastic and not that there might be problems using them.

56:21 So, Kara Swisher and Professor Scott Galloway, how's that boycott going, Scott Galloway? They're always talking about age gating. We've got to age gate. We can age gate for alcohol, for cigarettes. We should be age gating for these apps. Turns out even Kara knows that age gating doesn't work because kids are smart. And the plaintiff in this case began using Instagram at nine. There was some heated testimony about Instagram's age verification rules, keeping kids under the age of 13 off it. Is there any reason to think that that is a sufficient safeguard? No, not at all. They took years and years, I think just until 2019, to really have a version of age gating, and it's a very light one in place. You know, I was surprised to see, what is it, 4 million 10 to 12 year olds on the platform when nobody under 13 is supposed to be on it. I love this. Everyone's so upset about evidence we have not yet been able to produce about Epstein.

57:18 Yet there's four million kids being abused on a daily basis by social media. Obviously they're not doing a great job of keeping people off and you know a lot of the emails talk about the idea of employees who wanted more guardrails and them not being put in place because of the leadership. You know they have all kinds of arguments why not and by the way they're not the only one like YouTube is right now on trial here and others. There's many others and this is a question of whether these are addictive experiences and products or are they just so great that we can't stop using them? It seems like the same thing to me. But you know, they're trying to call it problematic usage versus addiction and that's what they'll try to do. They'll try to blame

58:07 the victim for her own problems and that what hadn't didn't happen because of them but certainly all of us know social media is a problem whether it's on partisanship or making us hate each other making us feel bad or making girls have less self-esteem or boys be more isolated I think anyone who's a parent knows this. And anyone who's a person knows this, using these apps can be really problematic. Problematic. So the problem here is the parents who are setting this example themselves and here is in fact... Yeah, they got the phone at the dining room table, they're on it all the time and they're walking around with it in their hands 24-7. I know we sound like boomers but we're just identifying the problem. When I was a kid we didn't have such a thing.

58:53 And then they have it by their bedroom, in the bedroom, sitting there and they use it as an alarm clock. Oh my god. I think you do too, no offense. Now listen to Anderson Pooper as he discusses his social media issues. Well even for adults, I mean, you know, I'm on Instagram and I find myself, you know, occasionally getting sucked in and just scrolling and feeling terrible about my life because everyone seems to be having a much... Anderson Pooper! Wow! An actual... That is... Okay, I'm giving... By the way, before we finish, that's clip of the day that... Because you... You emphasized it early... It became a callback. Excellent work. Excellent work! Thank you, I said it... Thank you. I worked on that. I like... I better not screw this up. Because John will already... He'll give it... The punchline away. This is... This is pathetic.

59:41 This is really, really pathetic. Let's just listen to that one more time. That is so pathetic. Anderson Cooper. He is an air. I'm so jealous of the girl in the bikini. Look how good she looks. Did you see the video that's floating around of the woman who has a filter? She's like, she's She's filter. She got a filter and the filter was failing and it went back and forth and back and forth real fast showing your real face. No, I haven't seen this. Oh my god, just some ugly duckling. Well, even for adults, I mean, you know, I mean, I'm on Instagram and I find myself, you know, occasionally getting sucked in and, you know, just scrolling and feeling terrible about my life because everyone seems to be having a much more exciting life. How is this possible? He is a Vanderbilt. He's a Vanderbilt. He is

1:00:25 He must have money outside of CNN and how can his life be worse? Clearly it's not. No, clearly it's not. He's an A-gay. He's been buffaloed. He's an A-gay. He's on television. He's an A-gay. Yeah, an A-gay. He's not a B-gay. He's an A-gay. No, he's an A-plus gay for sure. He looks good for his age. Everything's rocking and rolling. He has stature. Well, I guess he's leaving CBS, but you know, doing 60 Minutes. Do you know he was also 60 minutes, he was a 60 minute special correspondent. He's living there? Yeah. I read that somewhere. What a life! What a life! And yet, and yet, he is now trying to understand and having an adult conversation with a semi-adult Kara Swisher, we don't know what she is.

1:01:14 to say, it happens to me too. Well, hello. It's the gamification aspect of getting the dopamine hits of likes and followers and things like that. And apparently Anderson Cooper is worried about getting likes and followers? What? What is, what in the world's going on here? Well, it's designed, as I said earlier today, like a casino of attention. It's not the same thing as watching a movie. It's not this, they do make those arguments. It's not, they call it entertainment now, but it's not entertainment. It's something else and I'm not sure what to call it. But it does feel like a casino. You can't look away from the lights. You can't stop pressing the button. You can't stop going to the next red button. And I, you know, it can make you feel bad, especially if your feeds are

1:02:03 are bad, it can make you feel isolated and all kinds of things. And I think everybody knows this and that's going to be the problem here for Facebook is the jury probably has addiction problems of their own even if Facebook doesn't want to call it addiction, Facebook executives. But everybody understands the relationship with the phone has gotten toxic especially for young people. She makes a good point. The jury's gonna be hooked too. We're doomed. Society's doomed. You know what you need? I've said it before, since 2007 when that phone came out. Satan's tool. All we need... And I'm not the religious one here. It is the attack vector, the controller slab is the attack vector of life. If anybody doesn't see the symbolism of having an apple on the back with a bite taken out of it, then you're missing the point. The serpent has struck. Yes. All we need to do... I got a great idea. Have the phone talk back to you and have a conversation.

1:03:07 What else could go wrong? It couldn't be any worse than it is. It couldn't be any worse than it is. By the way, I nailed myself. I got the... Now I'm going to have to be careful now because every time he's done that, you ever see when you're trying to do addition and somebody just throws numbers out into the air? and those numbers go into your calculation, I have to now be very careful not saying it. Oh no, neither of us have said it yet. I'm just angry at myself. Don't worry about it. I won't mention it anymore. I'm not worrying about it. A lot of our producers bitch and moan that we worry about it. So I have, I got in through the mail, actually you sent it FedEx. I have here, this thing is huge.

1:03:54 A GeoForce RTX with a DarkPower13 block attached to it? That is- What is this? This is an Nvidia GPU. Oh, the GPU, yeah. Yeah! Wow, that thing is huge! At least like three grand or something. No, six. No, not this one. I don't know if it's this one. But a producer sent it to me. I mean, he's... Who knows what business he's in. Like, yeah, I got one laying in the closet. Oh, you got a tracker on it. Probably gonna... I hope so. So everything you do to it's gonna go to China. He's already loaded it up with all the AI models, a little Raspberry Pi attached to it. The whole thing is phenomenal.

1:04:33 Very very excited about this. So there goes the show. What do you mean? There goes the show? I'm gonna be creating the best getting around with that's the head device the best I ever feel some or the best ISOs ever Well that that could be the other big news in AI world which we have obviously been predicting is is, you know, the sea dance, the sea dance where they recreated a fight scene between Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and the movie industry is outraged, I tell you. Have you seen this epic new Brad Pitt Tom Cruise movie? You haven't?

1:05:17 Well, actually no one has because it's not real. But take a look at this AI generated clip. It's created using a platform called Cdance 2.0. It's an AI tool from a Chinese owned company, ByteDance. It went viral last week, sparking a fiery debate between Hollywood and the multi-billion dollar tech industry. That is not Tom Cruise and that is not Brad Pitt. But it sure looks like both of them. Let's talk about this with Sean Astin. He's the president of the entertainment union SAG-AFTRA. You might remember him, of course, from so many movies. The Goonies, Rudy, Lord of the Rings. Your union released a statement Friday condemning the clip and ByteDance saying, quote, SAG-AFTRA stands with the studios in condemning the blatant infringement enabled by ByteDance's

1:06:02 new AI video model, Seedance 2.0. The infringement includes the unauthorized use of our members' voices and likenesses. This is unacceptable. Can you stop it for a second? Yeah, sure. Did ByteDance pay for this because they keep mentioning the product and the 2.0 and they keep dropping everything, all the details in. It seems a little suspect. Possible. That's possible. It's also, you know, the, oh China's gonna kill us all meme is in there. Oh the Chinese, the Chinese, the Chinese. Infringement includes the unauthorized use of our members voices and likenesses. This is unacceptable and it undercuts the ability of human talent to earn a livelihood. Open AI had a similar issue and they very quickly reinforced the idea that they had an opt-in policy even though they were sort of in an opt-out modality, meaning

1:06:54 Performers can see themselves, Bryan Cranston can see himself and say, you know, hey, you're not supposed to have that and they go, sorry, take it down. Or they can say, hey, Bryan Cranston, we want to use your image and likeness to get your permission. And he'd have the opportunity to make that decision and get compensated for it and so forth. So we have an important piece of federal legislation called the No Fakes Act, which is in the Judiciary Committee now in the Senate. And it would enshrine that right, that right to our own voice and likeness. The No Fakes Act. Here's Hollywood desperately clinging on to relevance when, if you really look at that, that fight scene was a great fight scene. It's better than them filming an original fight scene. It's fantastic. I have not seen it. I've never seen it. Oh, it's really good. You're a journalist.

1:07:40 Your job is to make sure that the First Amendment is protected. What? What? What? What? What? Hold on a second. Let me write down this on the list of things that journalists do. So let's just hear that again. Let's make sure that we're all understanding the First Amendment here. You're a journalist. Your job is to make sure that the First Amendment is protected and is respected and observed. And in the entertainment industry, both the companies and the talent have the same sense of you know, reverence for the First Amendment. But you shouldn't be able to... Somehow the First Amendment is being infringed on... No, you can talk about copyright law maybe, but this... Copyright law for sure. This idiot, we know you're from the Goonies, he's now saying that not only is

1:08:37 Copying, digitally copying and manipulating material someone owns is a First Amendment rights issue which has nothing to do, there's no rights. But journalists are supposed to be protecting this? This is who the head is, is this the head of SAG-AFTRA? Yeah, I think he's an embarrassment to David is let me check out make sure exactly what he is. He say something I didn't say or do something I didn't do or depict me in a way that I wouldn't but you know in a setting I wouldn't put myself that's just basic fundamental fairness it goes not just to the professional. How's that different than acting? He is indeed the president of SAG-AFTRA. How is that what he just said back it up?

1:09:20 How's that different than acting? Let's listen again. Or do something I didn't do or depict me in a way that I wouldn't but you know in a setting I wouldn't put myself that's just basic fundamental fairness. Yeah, it's acting. Good point. It's not just to the professional entertainment industry it goes to kids who are abused in this way it goes towards anyone in our country and around the world who is you know When they post stuff on social media, when they find themselves, their images captured in whatever ways that they are subject to this same sort of abuse. So it's time to put real guard rails in place that protect us. Not to mention all these companies.

1:10:04 that don't really design these cityscapes or whatever, they just plagiarize them from the work of other people. Sean Astin, thank you, please come back, we want to be talking about this and making sure artists are represented in this debate, we really appreciate it, and we're all huge fans. My director just showed his kids Goonies over the weekend, just FYI. The union? Goonies never say die! No, he was in the Goonies movies, he's a kid actor. True. But these are the same people who are taking notes from the Netflix executives to reiterate the plot every 10 minutes in a Netflix movie because the audience has no attention span.

1:10:46 Because it's longer than three minutes. This movie lasts more than three minutes? I mean, please. We've seen this happen in an unpacked before a very eyes. It started with captions. Gotta have the captions on. If I don't have the captions, I can't follow the movie. Yeah, that's right. We talked about this before the caption thing. Can you do me a favor? I can try. And send the spreadsheet from Jay in her page to to my Google account just forwarded it Okay, well if you play a clip then I can do that. Well. I can play a bunch of clips No, just one by playing the clips kind of put it aside here. Just one is fine It's if somebody has sent this in I went and reclipped it so it's a little better about Keith Olbermann He's still around

1:11:35 Keith Olbermann talking about how he's become a media deconstructor. What? What? What? Olbermann on media won. Every once in a while I begin to suspect that this podcast will eventually turn into a media criticism podcast. Every once in a while I suspect you believe that this podcast has already turned into such of a podcast About the media more than about politics or Trump or anything else because if we stop and think about it beyond the natural Problems that we have had with what we all thought were laws and that turned out just to be traditions and things that men of goodwill would observe to keep the form of government here largely democratic

1:12:21 Apart from that overarching problem that has led us here to the precipice of eternal damnation, The second biggest collapse, the second weakest guardrail, the guardrail that second most turned out to be made out of oatmeal and paper mache is the media. There has been another array of disasters in the media in the past week from CBS News, or what was formerly CBS News, from CNN again, from a man I used to work for named Andy Lack. NBC, formerly of NBC though they fired him twice and from Jake effing Tapper. You want it sent to your Gmail? Yeah. You know there's something very wrong with your email. Just as a quick aside, when the guy trying to help you with a newsletter email, his name is Mark Void Zero, when his email is sent back as fake when he's trying to send you information about how to fix the email, we have a basic problem.

1:13:24 Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm aware of the issues. And I use the issues as plural. Yes. Alright, so that's the intro. We've got Olbermann and he is setting himself up as some kind of uber-dude over everything else. Yeah, and so I do have the deconstruction that he actually does on a clip which is the last clip which is Olbermann 3, I think. You don't want to play 2? You want to play... But if you want to play 2, it's more entertaining to play 2 and 2A. There's 2 and 2A. This is classic, this is an example of what kind of objectivity we can expect in his deconstruction. So Trump is now trying to win line-level service members, the line guys, the youngsters, the ones Trump thinks are the suckers and losers.

1:14:13 Trying to win them with some vague idea in his mind that if the commissioned officers and the generals and the joint chiefs are told to shoot up a voting precinct in Chicago and they refuse, well the raw troops from Fort Bragg will do it anyway. Out of loyalty to Trump. and might even shoot the officers if Trump asks them to. Like this is the Soviet revolution as it played out on their western front against the Germans in 19-effing-17. It is absolutely... What is the effing thing? Is this a new thing? Jake effing Tapper, 19-effing-17, Keith effing Olbermann? He cusses constantly but he uses effing. Oh, okay.

1:15:03 actually standing up on their hind legs like something out of the government overthrow movie seven days in May. It is absolutely possible that the names of the people Mark Kelly and Elissa Slotkin were actually talking to in the video they and the four house members made will become very familiar to us. in October and November and December. Names like General George, and Admiral Franchetti, and Commandant Smith. And yes, in the wildest of political science fiction scenarios, they might all have to get together and lock General Kane, lock General Kane in a room somewhere while they make sure the personnel under their command do not seize ballot boxes or begin to turn us into a military dictatorship

1:15:49 And do not start shooting civilians. And Trump does not pop out of a bunker wearing his special new uniform with the big hat personally designed and gifted to him by Kim Jong-un. Are there more people who watch Keith Olbermann besides you and Darren and Larry? I mean, are you... I don't watch him at all. If it wasn't somebody sending me this clip about him deconstructing, I wouldn't have even gotten these. I'll just play this next one, which is the end of what he just said, the Trump 2A, and then an example of his deconstruction. You won't hear from him again on this show for a year.

1:16:27 It cannot be said too many times there is no future for Trump and the scumbags around him. Rubio, Vance, Stephen Miller, Gnome, Hegseth, Patel, Gabbard, Kushner, Trump's two idiot sons. There is no future for any of them if the Democrats win the House and the Senate. I'd argue there is virtually no future for any of them if the Democrats just win the House. For Trump, the midterms are not the future of his agenda. and his... policies. For his minions, this is not the future of their plans or their money. For Trump, the midterms are life and death. His. He either gains control of this country permanently through the rest of his life or virtually permanently or he will die in prison. This guy just had... All I'm hearing is diarrhea of the mouth.

1:15:49 And do not start shooting civilians. And Trump does not pop out of a bunker wearing his special new uniform with the big hat personally designed and gifted to him by Kim Jong-un. Are there more people who watch Keith Olbermann besides you and Darren and Larry? I mean, are you... I don't watch him at all. If it wasn't somebody sending me this clip about him deconstructing, I wouldn't have even gotten these. I'll just play this next one, which is the end of what he just said, the Trump 2A, and then an example of his deconstruction. You won't hear from him again on this show for a year.

1:16:27 It cannot be said too many times there is no future for Trump and the scumbags around him. Rubio, Vance, Stephen Miller, Gnome, Hegseth, Patel, Gabbard, Kushner, Trump's two idiot sons. There is no future for any of them if the Democrats win the House and the Senate. I'd argue there is virtually no future for any of them if the Democrats just win the House. For Trump, the midterms are not the future of his agenda. and his... policies. For his minions, this is not the future of their plans or their money. For Trump, the midterms are life and death. His. He either gains control of this country permanently through the rest of his life or virtually permanently or he will die in prison. This guy just had... All I'm hearing is diarrhea of the mouth.

1:17:25 It's just blah blah blah blah Trump blah blah. Okay, so now we get to the the true deconstruction. Okay, so now this next clip which is the last one. This is him deconstructing some CBS stuff. He hates CBS now because this is Barry Weiss. Of course. So he's gonna deconstruct a story and then show how how it's screwed up it is. And the structure of what he does is you have to remember that he is the the mentor of Rachel Maddow. Mentor or mentee? He's the mentor. He mentored Rachel Maddow? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, she came into the network at MSNBC after he had established herself. Another person banned from the show.

1:18:13 She came in and he taught her the ropes and she became a version of him and then she passed it on to Hayes that other guy and it's got water down along the way and she she was a little better at doing this because she had all these expressions and she didn't look like a lunatic and She had his sad faces and she'd cry but but the structure of what you're about to hear is exactly Rachel Maddow's she got it from him and And listen carefully because there's a trick in here. He pulls a stunt and I don't know whether he does it on purpose, which I have to assume because he can't be this dumb.

1:18:51 Or he does it because he's that dumb. We'll see. Here we go. On February 9th, Tony DeCouple already once again put a hole in whatever reputation he had as a newsman at some point in his past when he announced on their newscast, the CBS quote evening quote news ICE arrested nearly 400,000 people in President Trump's first year in office. Of those, nearly 60% had criminal histories, meaning charges or convictions, including many for serious crimes such as drug trafficking and child pornography, and several thousand cases involving rape or murder. Those are some pretty heavy statistics.

1:19:31 That's a very important story and it is to some degree surprising that you're probably hearing this for the first time. 400,000 people arrested. Of those, 60% had criminal histories, drug trafficking, child pornography, several thousand rapes or murders. The books were cooked. Trump is not right. Trump is not dragging off only the violent criminals the worst of the worst the number had been Rewritten the facts had been changed into what Tony DeCopol read to present a fake picture to falsify reality reality CBS had its own online report on its website which has not yet been corrupted by Barry Weiss and Tony DeCoppo and the others the CBS story using the same data from the same sources reads less than 14% of those arrested by ice in Trump's first year back in office had violent criminal records document shows

1:20:27 So between the actual number, which is less than 14%, and this dire picture of nearly 60% had criminal histories, Somebody changed the facts from the facts to lies that to Coppola promptly spewed on the CBS Evening News. Oh, yeah. No, it's obvious what he did there. He changed it from criminal record to violent criminal record. Yeah, you spotted it. So easy to spot. Rachel does this all the time, too. And it's just like it was disingenuous because in his original when he talks about the 60 percent, he does mention the thousands of

1:21:03 super violent crimes which would be include murder and whatever and that that accounts for the 14% he never puts that together correctly he's the liar yes he is so that's the kind of news deconstruction if he's ever gonna do it that you're gonna get it's just Rachel Maddow well I believe that the people who listen to our show do not ever ever even stop on a video of Keith Olbermann But it was sent to you so I understand. We got to use the material. You're in agreement with me. I think some people... well, I haven't... you're probably right because I don't stop at his videos. This guy sent the thing... one of our producers sent the thing and said, hey look at he's trying to do deconstruction like you guys. So I had his clip and then I said, well let's see what this is all about. It was my fault. We never should have done the Trump stuff. That was my fault.

1:22:03 You wanted to pass it by and I was interested. It's okay. He did, however, bring up the, what do you call them? The two idiot sons? Yes, the two idiot sons. I'm answering a question that someone sent to me. There's a lot of confusion about the digital euro, CBDC, central bank digital currency, and stablecoin. And even though we've explained it ad nauseum and I'm not about to do it again, please go to bingit.io and look it up. A central bank digital currency is issued, that is the digital euro if it ever happens, and I have reasons for saying that. If the digital currency ever happens, a central bank digital currency

1:22:50 is regulated by the central bank, the Bank of Banks. In that case, it would be the Federal Reserve in the United States. There is, in fact, there is specific legislation that forbids the Central Bank of America, the Federal Reserve, from creating a digital coin. The stablecoin is interesting in that it is money that is backed by American debt. by Treasury bills. And the whole legislation that's going through Congress now is determined, we've already determined who can do it. So you can be a bank, you can qualify as a bank. I'm sure Elon Musk qualifies as a bank. The only argument now is, well, can we give people benefits like interest rate, interest on a stable coin or tote bags or whatever?

1:23:48 So, the Trump brothers have a, do a conference for the World Liberty, I think that's what it's called, excuse me, World Liberty Financial Corporation. And they say, I think it's Eric who says some stuff which confirms what we've been talking about, about the stablecoin gambit. But first they kind of downplay Bitcoin a little bit and push it off to the side because stablecoin is what it's all about. Still think it's going to a million bucks? It's having trouble holding a hundred thousand. It's been a rough start. This was supposed to be the golden dawn of crypto. Well, you know, Bitcoin is low right now, but what we're talking here with World Liberty is stablecoins, right?

1:24:30 Treasury backed, it's dollar based. How have Stakecoins held up in the Bitcoin sell off? They're one to one to US Treasuries, so they've stayed the same. It's just a simpler way to transact. If you send a wire on Friday, you don't have to wait for Tuesday to close. It happens in two seconds for two cents. You can close transactions. The banks obviously didn't love that idea because they're getting the benefit of the float of having these things and these billions and billions of dollars sitting in their banks over the weekend collecting interest. This creates efficiencies that did not exist in that market before not only does it create efficiencies is bringing trillions dollars into the United States right everybody wants to be on the US dollar they did a Euro based stable coin and only Half of 1% of all Europeans want to be unstable on that stable point you know what they want to be on They want it to be on the US dollar and guess what everybody in Asia wants to be on the US dollar guess what everybody in South America wants to be on it really is on

1:25:19 the US dollar. Stablecoin is going to bring literally trillions of dollars into the US economy. It arguably could save the dollar because guess what? There's a lot of countries around the world Ranking corruption, bad governments, bad currencies, massive inflation. These people don't stand a chance. They get a paycheck. They don't stand a chance. They may as well go and throw in a fire and just burn it. Whereas now all of a sudden using a simple telephone, using your iPhone, all of a sudden you can buy US backed, one to one is on said, based on US treasuries, you can buy stable coin and you can actually be part of the greatest financial system in the world. So this will change.

1:25:56 the entire optics of the US dollar, it is a way to at least extend world dominance as a reserve currency for a while. And as Eric said, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Yes. Guess what? All those countries do indeed People would rather have the US dollar. Yes, absolutely. If you think that this is any different because it's digital from your Venmo, your PayPal, your credit card, your debit card or any other way you transact except in paper money, you're wrong. There's no difference. Just as trackable, just as stoppable, just as interruptible. I hope people now understand.

1:26:37 They don't. Because they're all worried about, oh CBDC, CB... The CBDC is bad because the central bank can then... they can devalue your money. Well, they could take it. Well, so... Hello? Well, that can happen with anything. It happened in Cyprus. I'm just saying that that's... Well, it can't happen with the thousand bucks that I have stashed in the mattress. No, but that's... You're mixing apples with oranges and throwing in some bananas. The point is, digital money is digital money and you're controlled unless you literally are using Bitcoin and people are accepting your Bitcoin as payment. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying it for that. The point is, the difference between a stablecoin and a central bank digital currency is the central bank has way more power to devalue your money, to chop off money, to do things that are outside of the banking system.

1:27:38 And that's what you don't want and the digital euro will be fantastic. I can't wait. Unfortunately, as it turns out, let me look for it. Turns out, Fifi Lagarde may not see the actual introduction of the digital euro. On to business now. Jean-Pierre Pellegrain is with us. He's starting with a shock report. This is coming out from the Financial Times. It's regarding movements at the European Central Bank. The British newspaper is saying that the president of the ECB, Christine Lagarde, is expected to leave her position before the end of her eight-year term in October 2027, citing a source familiar with her thinking. Lagarde is reportedly looking to leave before the French presidential election, which will take place in April next year. This would allow French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz to find a new top central banker for the bloc, and thus avoiding the possibility

1:28:33 of a far-right national rally president from having a say in the decision, whether that person is Marine Le Pen or Jordane Bardella. Both of them are Euroskeptics, of course. The European Central Bank has since responded to that report saying Christine Lagarde is focused on her job and has not taken any decision regarding the end of her term. This is a bad omen. Why would Lagarde want to leave before the end of her term? She's a healthy woman. She's got everything together. She loves power. I think she knows it's all gonna come tumbling down. This has nothing to do with getting out before. Oh, you think that and she's worried about getting blamed. Of course, of course, that she'll be the number one to get blamed. Nah, it's like, wow.

1:29:29 I think it's bigger news than people may realize that she's getting out. I don't want to be here when it all collapses, but some other doofus take care of it. Well, the potential is there. Talk about the tariff decision from the Supreme Court for a moment. I have two clips that I want to play. You've got two clips. I'm sure you do. Mine first. Wait, where is your... I don't get it. Where do yours come from? From this morning, from CBS, Face the Nation. Yes, okay. Face the Nation, Ambassador Jameson Greer, who is the United States Trade Representative. The Supreme Court ruling, that vote was 6-3. The President, as you know, you were there, came out publicly and he railed against some of those justices by name. He said this on Friday, take a listen. They're very unpatriotic and disloyal to our constitutions.

1:30:26 It's my opinion that the court has been swayed by foreign interests and a political movement that is far smaller than people would ever think. That's a pretty huge allegation. What foreign interest has corrupted the court, according to the president? Well, I won't characterize his words too much. He speaks for himself. What I will say- Do you know what he's talking about? So many of the interests that were at issue in this case were really about foreign importers or foreign companies that have interests here in the US who are suing the president and suing the administration. It's foreign companies that are benefiting from the terrorist being struck down.

1:31:08 This is why when we impose tariffs, foreign countries don't like it and foreign companies don't like it because they're the ones that don't want to have the tariffs in place. They're the ones that are suing. They're the ones that are trying to get together coalitions and groups to oppose what the president is doing. The president's fighting for American workers. He's trying to impose a trade policy that has a through line through the first Trump administration, Biden and Trump with tariffs, but it's foreign countries and companies that are suing that want these things to go away. So, the trade representative or ambassador here is not really saying what this is. I believe what President Trump is talking about is globalists and specifically North Sea Nexus in the embodiment of the Cato Institute who wrote quite a detailed amicus brief to the Supreme Court about this decision.

1:32:01 And I spent some time with Rob, the constitutional lawyer. It's 170 pages. A lot of this was pretty much written by the Cato Institute. It's all their language. It's the globalists. They don't want this. They don't want America to succeed on its own. They want the same Manufacture somewhere else, just have the stupid Americans be the customers. And here Jameson kind of lets in a little bit on who the president was really talking about. But the president wasn't talking about them. The president was talking about the Supreme Court justices, who he said are unpatriotic and disloyal and swayed by foreign interests. Do you have any evidence to back up that allegation about the Supreme Court justices who, as you know, face security threats on a daily basis?

1:32:48 so when the foreign interests sue they appear before the courts they're literally arguing arguing before the courts that they should have a different outcome. So they are, it's quite obvious that foreign interests are involved. They're helping bring lawsuits. They're arguing before the court. And these justices, six of them, agree with what a lot of these foreign interests want, which is take down the tariffs, take down the barriers, and let us import as much cheap crap as we want to the United States at the expense of American workers. But do you need to clarify or feel compelled in any way to clarify in regard to the allegations against the justices themselves? I'm not speaking for the president. What I'm telling you is that when the president talks about foreign influences, at a minimum what we see is that foreign companies are involved in the coalitions, the

1:33:40 PR effort, they're involved in the cases, and they don't want these tariffs. It's not a secret. I mean, for months, these foreign countries and companies and people in the United States who benefit from their commercial relations with them, they want these tariffs to be gone. That should be the signal for us that we're doing the right thing, that we're over the target. When the foreign countries and companies are literally arguing in court through their advocates to take it down, we know they have influence. Well, 1,500 businesses, including Costco, have filed lawsuits to get repaid for these tariffs. Yeah, they can wait for a long time for that to happen. Yeah, that's for sure. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. So I think that's what the president meant. I mean, the Cato Institute was, I think that's named after the Cato letters, if I'm not mistaken, between 18th century British essays.

1:34:32 between John Trenchard and Thomas Gordon. Oh, I know, it is a kind of an outlier of conservative think tanks. Conservative or liberal globalists? They're conservative on the surface. On the surface, yeah that makes sense. On the surface they're extremely conservative but it wouldn't surprise me and I think that was a good catch that you talked this over with R, with the show's constitutional guy. Yeah, I mean I can tell you more about what we discussed but let's see what your clips are first.

1:35:07 Well, my clips are a little different because they don't harp on... They don't harp the way Nora... That's not Nora. It's... Who is that? That's Margaret. Margaret, that's right, Margaret. And the problem is I have two clips that should be the same, might be the same clip, but one is 41 seconds, one is 59. These are the openers. It's the second clip, tariffs two, that's interesting to me because it shows you what NPR is coming from. One is 44, one is 59. Really? I got 41 on my list. Oh, wait, hold on. I have...

1:35:49 Tariffs Supreme Court 44, Supreme Court NPR 59. I wonder why it grew three seconds. Tariffs to GOTG NPR. Yeah that should be boots on the ground. It's goats on the ground, everybody. We got goats on the ground. Well, let's start with the long one. Let's just try the long one, the 59-second one. President Trump says he's increasing his new temporary global tariffs from 10 percent he announced yesterday to 15 percent. This in response to yesterday's Supreme Court ruling that found he overstepped his authority on double-ditch taxes on virtually all imports into the U.S.

1:36:32 And here's Alina Seljuk has more. President Trump made the latest announcement in a post on social media, once again deriding the Supreme Court ruling, saying it was, quote, ridiculous, poorly written, and extraordinarily anti-American. The high court had ruled with a notable majority of 6 to 3, including two justices appointed by Trump. And they had struck down Trump's use of an emergency statute for his tariffs, saying the president could not rely on it to impose taxes, without specific authorization from Congress. Trump quickly used another presidential authority to set a new universal tariff, which is limited to 150 days unless extended by lawmakers, and he has vowed to find a way to set more. Alina Selyuk, NPR News, Washington. Yeah, that 150-day limit on Section 122

1:37:20 is interesting because yes, the president can't just reset the clock, but there is no language that says that he can't do another one. And yeah, that's what I was thinking. 14% now. It's all about if there's a trade or an imbalance of payments, which clearly we have. Oh yeah, big time. Then he can just keep invoking that, just changing it a little bit. He can also completely block all trade with any country or for any product just outright. So this whole thing was, I'd say, I think the words Rob the constitutional lawyer used are performative.

1:38:01 And that's what's disappointing. The Supreme Court's just, you know, whatever they were doing, it's like, eh, you can't use eh. They didn't want to deal with it, I think. They should have not dealt with it then. The fact that they just stole the report from the Cato Institute is pretty pathetic. It's very pathetic. So this report, they go on and on and on. Then they bring in this woman who's in the, who, I have to say, here's a woman that works for NPR. that is living the life of Riley. I don't know what the NPR budget must be in the hundreds of millions, obviously. And this woman, she's in the Paris Bureau and she's gonna do boots on the ground, but you never imagine, you know, in other words, ask the Europeans what they think of all this. And you can't imagine where she decides to go. Wait a minute, physically or in her? Physically. Hold on a second. So she's doing

1:38:54 Well, I would say she had to go to China. No, no, she's in the Paris... If you're in the Paris Bureau and you want to travel around... Yes, well actually yes, you should go to China. Or you go to the Champaign region. Well, you're close. The EU and the US did more than one and a half trillion dollars in trading goods and services in 2024. They're each other's largest trading partners. There's a lot at stake. Last summer before the tariffs were put into effect, the 15%, I went into Burgundy and I spoke with wine growers and they were so nervous about what would happen and one of the vineyards I visited was Michael Shopsville. What's what is in Burgundy besides dynamite wine? What's in Burgundy? Dynamite wine! She went to Burgundy to talk about tariffs and do a lot of wine tasting because some of that wine you can taste if you go there.

1:39:46 But you can't afford to affect the 15%. I went into Burgundy and I spoke with wine growers and they were so nervous about what would happen. And one of the vineyards I visited was Michael Schapp's vineyard. He has, he's a French winemaker and a Virginia winemaker who exports and imports in both directions. So he really sees how it's affecting the whole thing. And I spoke with him today. Here he is. I think crazy up and down on both sides of the Atlantic. On top of that, the fact that the dollar has tumbled about 12 percent in the past year. So you have that on top of the tariffs and it's a big hit. Yes. So he hailed the Supreme Court's decision, but it didn't last long. And he said most French winemakers, including himself,

1:40:26 are finding and have found new markets across Europe and Asia. He says it's just too hard to do business with the US. Does the EU have any recourse to fight back? Yeah, they do. I mean, the US and the EU negotiated a trade deal last summer, but it's actually not been ratified by the European Parliament. and they could hold that back and there are now calls for them to do so and they've already identified ninety three billion dollars worth of u.s. goods that they could slap tariffs on and there's something else they could use it's a mechanism that's been being referred to as the trade bazooka which could enact huge restrictions on u.s. companies having access to the e-market which is a market of four hundred and fifty million consumers

1:41:05 It's massive and lucrative, so that could be a real threat. That's NPR's Paris correspondent, Eleanor Beardsley. Thank you so much for your reporting. You're welcome. I'll tell you that my buddy here who does CNC machining for military parts, they are so happy because now they are using American steel. He says it's more expensive. I think we talked about this before. But he doesn't have to throw 40% away of Chinese steel because it's junk. It's junk. And he says, orders are up. He says, we can barely keep up with the business. Yeah, it's junk.

1:41:47 The LED light bulbs from China are junk. Everything from China is pretty much junk. And I understand we have a lot of people, probably who listen to the show, who set up businesses reselling junk from China. In marketing, online. I understand it sucks that you have to eat these tariffs. But, you know, and they say, well, you can't get that in America. Well, there's your opportunity. Right there. Make a better... I love the guys in North Carolina who are making sneakers and supposedly no agenda boots. Now, this is the whole plan. If you care about your kids, you'll eat a little bit of pain or a lot of pain. You will. Do it. I'm going to give the president until 2027. And if it hasn't improved by then, well, then a great idea didn't work.

1:42:43 I like the idea. I really do. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I mean, I like the idea too. I'm not going to argue against it. Are you skeptical that he can pull it off? No, I'm skeptical that the economy's not going to have issues after the midterms. And it will result in the inability to pull it off because it just won't be... the conditions won't be right. Everybody will be broke. Well, not that never happens but If that ever happened people who listen to our show will be broke. It didn't happen in the 30s, it didn't happen in the 70s, and this never happened. People who listen to our show will be broke and they will claim brokenness. That is always happening. It does, it does happen. If you're ready to go to a break I do have one interesting clip.

1:43:35 Oh, finally, finally we're getting an interesting clip. Finally an interesting clip. I know, I know, I know. So this is the most disgusting thing that's been floating around for a while. This is the underwear hack. It was kind of noisy. I ran it through the system. This is some woman giving us a life hack, a life hack when you travel a lot. Okay, here we go. I'm about to show you guys one of the coolest tricks ever. So you're traveling and you didn't pack enough underwear and you're just like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna wear tomorrow? Every room has like a coffee pot thing in it. Even the other coffee makers where like brews through. All you have to do, put your underwear where you would put the coffee grounds, you close it, you press brew,

1:44:27 And it puts scorching hot water through it. You guys, then the hairdryer in the bathroom, you blow dry those bad boys and you got yourself a cleaner pair of underwear to wear. I did not realize how many people already knew this hack. I learned it years ago from a friend that was a flight attendant. And it's brilliant. So this is a hack? This is good? This is no good. So you take your underwear and you stick it in the coffee maker, your dirty underwear, and then you run a brew through it and then you just dump the water out and then you go dry off the underwear. So in other words, the likelihood if people, unless this is a hoax, which I believe it could be. Well, no, no, no, no. Because I just spent four days in the Bio Dome in Nashville. It's the Gaylord Hotel where you never get out. It's kind of like a casino.

1:45:17 And they have these exact brew machines and it exists of a little pouch that's in a plastic slide that you slide into the coffee maker. Yeah, that works if you have panties. But men's underwear? Well I don't think it's for men but even... I don't care who puts them in if it's panties or boxer shorts I don't care. I don't want to be drinking my coffee, making bruised coffee afterwards. You know the hack is you get clean underwear and a tasty drink. And with that I want to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the CBD C in the morning to you Mr. John C. DeMorais!

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2:00:03 Adam and John, my wife and I are long-time listeners. She's a no-agenda Commodore and I'm a douchebag until now. You've been de-douched. I'm an active-duty Coast Guard pilot flying the HC-144B. By the way, this was a screw-up on my part because I went and bitched about the Coast Guard being not part of the military. part of DHS and I got corrected this is a correction yes they were never part of the military oh this is one of those big fatties with the with the two turbo props on the wing the HC 144 be mm-hmm ocean sentry yeah that's a that's a big bad boy

2:00:50 Yeah. Nice. We are indeed under DHS, meaning I'm current... by the way, they were never under the military. They used to be under the Treasury Department. They got bounced around a lot. Wow. So it's no surprise that they ended up under DHS. meaning I'm currently flying SAR missions without a paycheck. Search and rescue. But just because I'm not getting paid to work doesn't mean you shouldn't get paid for the best podcast in the universe. Can I interject for one second? So while I was traveling, both going out and coming back in, I thought, let me be, let me say something nice to every single TSA agent I see. And I said the same thing to all of them. Even the lady who was yelling about your water bottle. I said,

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2:05:07 Well, that's too enticing. But I have a TV show tip for you. Oh, okay. If you do watch the shows and enjoy them, suggest, you recommend them on the tip of the day. Okay, the collection is Walter Presents on British Channel 4. Excellent European shows. Deutschland 83, 86 and 89 is about young Eastern Germany spy, German spy in Berlin during the Cold War. The Ring is a Dutch thriller about a woman that gets involved in a murder. And Seaside Hotel, an idyllic Danish drama. Are these with subtitles? I can't do that. I need like, I need English.

2:05:46 Well, you know what is pretty good is some of this stuff that comes out of Australia the Australian mysteries that are kind of fashioned after British You know masterpiece theater stuff. Mm-hmm. It's nice decent. Their storylines are good. They have the acting is excellent. Hmm, yeah, which Which is a real problem with most stuff nowadays the acting stinks is still still pretty pathetic that that there's nothing nothing We got so many streaming things like how this looks like it's not gonna be any good. Thank you So I started watching season 3 of the diplomat. Oh no I'd like the first episode was excellent it falls apart. I

2:06:28 Okay, well we'll see. I haven't gotten to it falling apart yet. I'm stretching it. Yeah. In other words, I'm not sitting there watching a whole episode. I watch like a third. Oh, you stretch the episodes. You cut in the episodes. Interesting. No, it stretches it out to something more reasonable than, you know, here's our season six episodes. You're out of here. We'll see you in five years when we come back with another six episodes. We like to put so much effort into it. Where's Paradise? Bring that back. Hey, I'm telling you, break down 1975. I'll check it out. I think you'll enjoy it from a historical perspective Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers of the best podcast in the universe today's episode 1845 brought to you in part by these excellent producers We'll thank the rest of our producers $50 and above in our second segment go to knowage in the donations calm return the value in the value for value this show comes to you completely uninterrupted by any commercial or

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2:08:29 We hit people in the mouth. Let's talk about Iran for a second. Yeah, I have one short clip that could be a good introduction. Shorty on Iran. Does it say shorty on Iran? Yeah, it does say that. President Trump says he hasn't decided on whether the U.S. will launch military strikes on Iran, but while he weighs his options, the military buildup in the Mideast over the past few months means the U.S. has an expansive naval and air presence in the area.

2:09:17 And here's Greg Myhre, he says Trump has a range of options now that U.S. forces reached a critical mass in the region, but Trump so far hasn't outlined his plans on a possible attack. This has been a very different approach than we've seen from other presidents in the run-up to wars. Trump, for example, hasn't made a major speech to the American people about the prospect for a new Middle East war, though his State of the Union address is on Tuesday. His administration hasn't sought support from Congress or made the case at the United Nations. And aside from Israel, the president hasn't sought to bring in U.S. allies or build an international coalition.

2:09:55 Well, having been on the road I had the advantage of having picked up a few clips before today's program even before the weekend. Clip collector Steve Sent me this one on Thursday. This is the outstanding work from the Barry Weiss newsroom at CBS. We turn now to the Middle East and the breaking news tonight. A potential military strike on Iran could happen as soon as Saturday, according to top national security officials. President Trump has already positioned US warships and fighter jets in the region as nuclear talks continue with Iran. Senior White House correspondent Ed O'Keefe has the latest. Ed, good evening. What are you hearing?

2:10:33 Tony, sources tell CBS News the president hasn't yet made a final decision on whether to strike. Conversations about potential military action are described as fluid and ongoing as the White House weighs the political and military risks of escalation. The president has said he would consider strikes if Iran doesn't agree to curb its nuclear weapons program. The Pentagon is moving some personnel temporarily out of the Middle East region over the next three days. They're headed primarily to Europe or back here to the U.S. ahead of any potential action or counterattacks by Iran. So, you know, if you look on social media, you've got the obligatory, oh, the troops are getting steak and lobster dinner. That means it's coming on. It's going to happen. It's all over. It's going to happen. I reached out to Sir Brian of London. Wait, wait. So if they get steak and lobster, they go to war? Oh, you've never heard this? No, I've never heard this. Oh, this meme keeps popping up.

2:11:26 I'm sure we've talked about it. I'm sure. Well, maybe. Lobster. Let me see. Uh, yeah, here's a... this was a... this is from... I don't know when it's from. This is a while back. So there's videos going viral of the US military being served steak and lobster all over social media. If you're familiar with the military, you know about the steak and lobster. Are we about to be in the middle of a conflict? I would like any military personnel... I've never asked this question. to immediately text me, signal me, email me if this is true. I believe it's bullcrap. But you know, whenever there's an imminent attack or something's happening... Well first of all you're dealing with shellfish. You can make people sick. You don't want to even take a chance on this. I think that is an excellent point. One of my rules about flying, don't eat the shrimp. No, and certainly no sushi.

2:12:26 No. Oh God, what airplane serves sushi? That's for sure. Do not eat sushi on an airplane or a gas station. Or at the airport like SFO. SFO has a sushi joint. There are lots of sushi joints at airports. Actually there's a sushi joint at Heathrow that is a killer. There's a oyster and caviar bar at JFK. That's what you want. I mean, I'll make you sick too, but at least you got caviar.

2:13:01 Just they had information on the negotiations. Let me put it that way. The US and Iranian officials met yesterday to continue negotiations over that country's nuclear program. What have we learned about how that negotiation went? An Iranian official and a regional official both confirmed to me tonight that Iran has made this offer, a pause in domestic enrichment of uranium to produce nuclear fuel through the end of the first Trump administration. Entering into some kind of regional consortium for enrichment in the future and three experts exporting or diluting the highly enriched uranium that's one step away from weapons grade that the US bombed last summer. In exchange, Iran would ask for sanctions relief and open up to US investment. Officials tell me the US has made a counteroffer and continues to insist that Iran permanently give up any ability to enrich uranium domestically. And today we heard from White House spokesperson Caroline Leavitt hinting at that ongoing impasse.

2:12:26 No. Oh God, what airplane serves sushi? That's for sure. Do not eat sushi on an airplane or a gas station. Or at the airport like SFO. SFO has a sushi joint. There are lots of sushi joints at airports. Actually there's a sushi joint at Heathrow that is a killer. There's a oyster and caviar bar at JFK. That's what you want. I mean, I'll make you sick too, but at least you got caviar.

2:13:01 Just they had information on the negotiations. Let me put it that way. The US and Iranian officials met yesterday to continue negotiations over that country's nuclear program. What have we learned about how that negotiation went? An Iranian official and a regional official both confirmed to me tonight that Iran has made this offer, a pause in domestic enrichment of uranium to produce nuclear fuel through the end of the first Trump administration. Entering into some kind of regional consortium for enrichment in the future and three experts exporting or diluting the highly enriched uranium that's one step away from weapons grade that the US bombed last summer. In exchange, Iran would ask for sanctions relief and open up to US investment. Officials tell me the US has made a counteroffer and continues to insist that Iran permanently give up any ability to enrich uranium domestically. And today we heard from White House spokesperson Caroline Leavitt hinting at that ongoing impasse.

2:13:57 There was a little bit of progress made. What? I'm sorry? I was just gonna say that we kind of, we encourage investment but when Trump gets out we're changing everything back. How's that? Did they expect to get investment with that strategy? Well, I don't think this is about nuclear at all. That's a cover. Yeah, well let's listen to the lady. There was a little bit of progress made, but we're still very far apart on some issues. I believe the Iranians are expected to come back to us with some more detail in the next couple of weeks. And so the president will continue to watch how this plays out. So the way I see it, we're positioned there in the Straits of Hormuz. Iran has already done a live fire exercise. So the whole point is no Chinese go ships with your oil.

2:14:46 We're going to catch them, we're right here, we're the only place you can get them out. No more oil going to China. Instead, as I understand the deal, let our companies come in and do business with you. And I think that they are interested in that. I really do. Well, there's more money in it for them because the Chinese buy it. Best price! Best price! They're always going for the low ball, these poor guys. Venezuelans were getting screwed in the Chinese deal. So whenever I see all these numbers of 60% enrichment, 40% enrichment, that's your negotiating tactic. That's what it is. The deal is still lopsided, here's PBS.

2:15:46 What do those former officials and analysts tell you about the chance of a deal? Exactly what Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said in the last couple days. It is very difficult because the US demands are larger than what Iran is willing to concede. Iran will simply not give up that right for domestic enrichment, says former State Department official and current distinguished diplomatic fellow at the Middle East Institute, Alan Ayer. What they see is any capitulation in the face of pressure will invite further aggression. What they're doing now is they're getting ready to take a hit. You know, satellite imagery is showing this, open press reporting is showing this, I'm sure intelligence is reporting this.

2:16:28 While they're continuing negotiations with the US, they fully expect these negotiations not to result in a deal and they are preparing themselves for a massive US military attack. Here's what I think. This is, I think that The US State Department and Trump and the Iranians have already agreed it's much better for you to sell the oil to us, let us come in there, let our American companies in. And this whole thing is a face-saving exercise towards the Chinese. So they can say, hey, I'm sorry, Xi. They were going to blow us up.

2:17:12 So we had to do this. There could also be a fake blow up, you know, they could drop some bombs in the desert. Well, yes. And because that's the way we were sticking with the two of us. Yes. Both subscribe to the idea, which is a Middle Eastern idea. amongst Middle Eastern observers from actual living and breathing Iranians. We've been in cahoots with the Iranians forever entire era of our show. So when Margaret Brennan has the Iranian foreign minister on And again, it's about all of a sudden we're back to enrich. There was, look, we blowed this stuff up. I'm going to use their term, your term. We blowed the stuff up. And now it's like, well, you can't enrich anymore. 60%, 50%, 30%. This is a cover. There was no, where are the reports of Iran can have a nuke in one week, one month. That stopped, that went away.

2:18:11 So it hasn't come back. So this is a cover yet. Okay. When I heard the Iranian foreign minister this morning, and I have a couple clips, he's playing his side of the cover. We have seen very public statements from the president that he said no enrichment and that's a red line. But But when you say it's your right, okay, but you could get enriched uranium and buy it from someplace else. You know this, you've done this. Is demanding the right to enrich on Iranian soil really worth the risk right now? You're facing a potential destruction of your country and the regime based on the kind of military buildup we're looking at.

2:18:56 Well, I think as a sovereign country we have every right to decide for ourselves, by ourselves. We have developed this technology by ourselves, by our scientists. And it's very dear to us because we have paid a huge expense for that. We have been under sanctions for at least 20 years and we have lost our scientists and we have had a war because of that. So that is now a matter of dignity and pride for Iranians and we are not going to give it up. There is no legal reason to do that while everything is peaceful, while everything is safeguarded by the agency. Why we had an agreement in the past when we remained fully committed to that and it was the US who just withdrew with no justification. So we are a committed member of NPT. We want to use our right. We want to have our right and to exercise that.

2:19:52 So I'll make a controversial statement here. As usual, the United States puts Israel into play to ratchet it up again, you know, make it look all that it's all kind of real so we all get on edge because, you know, Israel, they dominate you. No, they don't. But you understand this could be make it or break it for you here. I mean, look, your air defenses were largely demolished by Israel this past summer. They dominate your military. They killed the leader of your most powerful proxy in Hezbollah. The United States bombed your underground nuclear facility. The economy is in shambles right now. So why do you think the regime could even survive unless you give this up?

2:20:40 Well, that is not the case when you talked about the air defense and the war we had with Israel. Yes, we had problems with our air defense, but Israelis had also problems with their air defense. And our missiles were able to hit targets inside Israel. So they started the war, but after 12 days, They asked for a ceasefire, unconditional ceasefire. Why? Because they couldn't defend themselves against our missiles. So we have a very good capability of missiles. And now we are even in a better situation than previous war. So as a matter of fact, we are in a powerful position to defend ourselves. We know how to defend ourselves. We did it in the 12-day war. And we are fully prepared to repeat that if necessary. Respectfully, Israel has air superiority over Iran.

2:21:29 Let's talk about what you are saying in terms of war. Our missiles have also superiority over the space of Israel. They can hit their targets. They hit their targets in a very exact way and they can do it again. And from what I understand, that during the 12-day war, 90% of the Iranian missiles were intercepted, which is a fun way of saying 10% made it through. And one of those 10% hit the interceptor missiles that we have given Israel money for to buy from us. And they actually probably don't have the interceptors if Iran went full bore, which I don't expect.

2:22:14 But let's ratchet up the anxiety a little bit more. Okay, well there are 40,000 American personnel in the Middle East right now. In Iran's letter to the UN Security Council, you seem to threaten them because you said America will bear full responsibility. You said you don't want war. But if that's what happens, all bases, facilities and assets of the hostile force in the region will be legitimate targets. Are you saying Iran will hit US bases in the Gulf or will you also bomb the Gulf countries that are your neighbors? Well, I'm not going to say what we are going to do exactly. Obviously, we defend ourselves. If the US attacks us, then we have every right to defend ourselves.

2:22:58 If the U.S. attacks us, that is an act of aggression. What we do in response is an act of self-defense. And it is justifiable and legitimate. So our missiles cannot hit the American soil. So obviously, We have to do something else. We have to hit, you know, the Americans base in the region. That is a fact. I am a diplomat. I'm not supposed to talk about our military plans. But what can I say is that why we should go for war when there is every possibility for a peaceful solution. So here's how I see the deal structured. Let's make a lot of noise. You're right. Maybe we lob a couple of bombs in the desert.

2:23:43 They come to the table, oh, okay, all right, you can, because Trump wants to do business there. He wants the total oil dominance with a fair deal, quote unquote. So our American companies go in, we start pumping some of that stuff because we know we're out of it here in America. Just no one wants to admit it except for the oil baron. And then you know what, because China will have to go away, you know what China's going to get? A soft, no military takeover of Taiwan. We have nothing in the region, everything's been moved out. It won't be like we're taking over, they'll just move in like, hey we're here, it's okay, everyone's fine. Taiwan is governmentally in a mess right now. I think it's a three-part deal. I think Xi may be in on it too. How about that? Well, that's pretty radical. I don't know if the Taiwan thing is going to go over.

2:24:38 But then again, maybe that's why AOC couldn't answer the question at the Munich Security Conference because she was briefed on the exact plot that you're talking about. And so she was tongue-tied. That's why she was stumbling. I have a 27 second clip. By the way, that's a stretch. That thesis I just said is a stretch. But... That part, you took it way too far. I'm out of control. You're over your skis. I like where we ended. There is one thing though. So I contact Sir Brian of London.

2:25:17 Because we're about to go with a church group go visit Israel next week. Ooh and And sir Brian of London says I said, what's the vibe? He's in Tel Aviv. He said the vibe is It's not when we will Be hit by missiles not if but when I'm like, okay, he says but you know We're all out here partying on the beach. We're not worried about it. It's life in Israel and That's how I'm thinking You know, we're about to go, we're the youngest people probably in this group. There's people in their 70s, upper 70s.

2:25:56 And I call Pastor Jimmy, I say, bro, listen, you know, we don't want like we're in a hotel and an air raid siren goes off at night. That'd be great. No, for me. Yeah. You know, that'd be fine. I went to Iraq in 2003. I'm not that worried about it. And if something happens, I know where I'm going. But that, but like people get worried about this stuff. They get all keyed up. They won't be able to enjoy it. So we've, Delayed until October, which I think is a good decision. Although... What? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I was looking forward to broadcasting live! From the war zone! Yeah, seriously. Me too. Me too. Well, you know, you gotta understand, older people... We have a couple guys on the security team that have their head on the swivel the whole time. You know, like, who's that guy? What's he got? I don't need this Ajita in my life.

2:26:52 I just want to go see where Jesus walked. I don't want to be worried about my fellow travelers. So yeah, you're stuck with me. You should take a trip by yourself. And you get Brian of London there. And the place is great after you have somebody show you around. No, I'm still looking forward to going. And Mossad said that the money bags will be good. They said they'll give it to me later. So Jew money is still good. Yeah. Where's that Jew money? I haven't seen it on the spreadsheet. But I think that's in play. I think that I really that feels like what's going on because this whole nuclear thing came out of nowhere. Nowhere. After we blew everything up and then well, they're still enriching. And as Margaret said, you can buy it. So this has to be a face saving maneuver. And we'll know it was really that if

2:27:43 if Xi kind of walks into Taiwan and says, hey, we're here to straighten stuff out. Well, I think that they're going to have to... He's not going to walk into Taiwan while Trump's in office. It's going to have to be staged for after 2028. Not on my watch. I'm absolutely sure that's part of the deal. Okay. Possibly. Because you know Trump doesn't like that because he's made this big fuss about it. He wouldn't have started the war in Ukraine if I wasn't president. And he wouldn't have done this if I was president. And then talking about, I do have a just a side clip here about Epstein.

2:28:21 So I've been watching, and I have some clips, I'm not gonna play them today, I'll play them on the next show. They're pretty interesting, but this, so I'm watching, since I've had a day off, I'm screwing around watching a lot of Rumble live stuff. Damn. And Keith Olbermann, apparently. So I'm watching the Rumble stuff. Yeah. And there's this woman who I guess has been around for a long time, I've heard of her, but I haven't heard her. named Wendy Bell, a talker, right-wing talker that's been, she's now got a show in Philadelphia. And they play the show. And I don't have the one, I have one clip, I could've gotten another clip where she, because what she's doing, she plays the radio show, her radio show, live on Rumble, and then when they break for commercials, she's doing like a second show

2:29:15 Oh, the rumble audience. Oh yeah, that's not uncommon. I've seen that. No, it's not uncommon at all. And I don't know who, I think Rush Limbaugh pioneered or maybe... Joe Paggs does that. Paglia, Joe Paglia. A lot of people do it. It's a good idea, but she does the sides that are way off from the... The show's radical enough, but when she does the sides, they're interesting. And one of them that she did, which I'm not playing, I'm playing the second one, the Epstein one. She goes off on Newsmax, because she used to be a... talker there. And so she was at Newsmax and she goes off on them saying Newsmax wouldn't let me talk about the stolen election in 2020. If I even brought it up, I'd get fired. They wouldn't let me talk about COVID at all. I couldn't even discuss any of it. I just thought that was pretty telling about Newsmax, you know, it was supposed to be such a right-wing operation. But here she is doing an aside

2:30:10 at commercial break and she's talking with the engineer slash producer like they like to do. And they're talking about Bongino and Kash Patel going on Fox and here's how this thing goes. Right, and so when he and Dan Bongino came out in that Fox News interview, wasn't it Fox? And they looked at the camera and you're like, that's bullshit. And you're like, that's total, they both look like they had seen a ghost. particularly Bongino. Both of their eyes don't lie. You can tell cuz they were like, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and we're like- It looked like a hostage video. Right? I was like, that's kind of messed up. Anybody else not believe that? Lot of new eyes. If you're new, follow, give us a follow. Hey, and hit the rumble button. We appreciate that. Glad to be with you guys. Thank you. Hit the rumble button.

2:31:06 But right, so what if it like we've already chewed here on the very I think shared reality we all have. The dude's not dead. Jeffrey Epstein's not dead, please. It's like the worst suicide ever. It's the worst freaking suicide ever. You mean like a suicide, like shooting yourself in the back of the head? That's right. And stabbing yourself like 800 times? Right back here. You know, it's so, yeah. So I'm at the dinner table with all the kids and there's not one person at the table that doesn't think the same thing. Oh, uh,

2:31:41 So the Millennials all think he's alive and of course I think I kind of think so too because of the passports that he had they found a one passport from a phony passport, but he could have had 20 for all we know. Sure. Well Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself you know of course. But also... You know in that interview I thought about this. They... he said no no Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. The question was never asked are you... is he dead? Oh there's lots of discrepancies with tattoos on his arm and the way his face looked and the fact they had a picture of him all on the gurney. But what Tina

2:32:20 who really is withdrawn from news feeds, although she has had some dynamite cottage cheese recipes. She says she is convinced that Patel and Bongino were told, this is what you say or we're going to kill your family. She's convinced of it. Particularly Bongino. Like Wendy said, it looked like a hostage video. It did. Yeah, yeah, it did. Anyway, a lot of noise about Stephen Colbert not being allowed to air an interview with this Tolerico guy, Texas Democrat, and the way it's played so far

2:33:12 has been, you know, this is FCC and this is censorship from the top and blah blah blah. And this is Global News from Canada who had, I think, a little better report of what exactly went down. Guess who's running afoul of his network and the Trump administration again? It's me. Stephen Colbert. Hang in there, buddy! A day before, Colbert suggested he was barred by his CBS bosses from airing an interview with Texas Democratic Senate candidate James Tallarico after Brendan Carr, chair of the Federal Communications Commission, a Trump appointee, questioned the exemption, whereby talk shows are not required to offer equal time to political rivals.

2:33:54 Colbert's take. Donald Trump's administration wants to silence anyone who says anything bad about Trump on TV because all Trump does is watch TV. So Colbert ran the interview on YouTube, where Tallarico also took aim at the White House. Now they're trying to control what we watch, what we say, what we read. And this is the most dangerous kind of cancel culture? The kind that comes from the top. The next day, CBS issued a statement that Colbert read, saying that he was not prohibited from showing the interview, which could trigger the FCC equal time rule. The show was presented options to provide equal time for others. I am well aware that we can book other guests. The FCC chair recently explained the need to update the rules for broadcasters. Congress was clear that

2:34:41 The FCC has a role with respect to bonafide news. They were worried that TV programmers would broadly take advantage of trying to claim they were bonafide news when they weren't. But one FCC commissioner calls it corporate capitulation. Ana Gomez stated, the FCC has no lawful authority to pressure broadcasters for political purposes or create a climate that chills free expression. That's been the worry for fans who protested last summer after CBS and parent company Paramount cancelled Colbert as of this spring. As for the Telerico interview, millions have clicked on YouTube to see it. Stephen Colbert making headlines. Stephen Colbert. Stephen Colbert. Stephen Colbert. Stephen Colbert. Stephen Colbert. Somebody that popular should get their own talk show. Colbert's point? He's losing his talk show in three months. Yeah.

2:35:32 It sounds like the whole thing was schemed. You got more views on YouTube and they're still getting views. Of course, and that guy is nuts, that Tallarico guy. Yeah, he's running for Senate in the primary against Jasmine Crockett. Yes, against Crockett, yeah. Which he may win. He might, but that doesn't mean he's going to win the general. Oh no, not the seat, no, in the primary. Yeah, he might win. I wouldn't vote for her. I have a Osterholm about the mRNA shot. I don't know if you're interested in that. Or I have... Yeah, I don't know if I have anything. Yeah, I got...

2:36:21 Yeah, this. Another one of your predictions comes true yet again as this continues to happen. I'm on a roll! Yeah. In heartbreaking testimony, students who were shot in their classroom at Appalachee High School in September 2024 recounted the horrifying moments Colin Gray's son Colt allegedly opened fire. Prosecutors charged Gray with nearly 30 counts including second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter. During opening statements Monday, the prosecutors alleged Gray bought the AR-15 style rifle and ammunition that his son used to kill four people and injure nine others. You can guess what's happening. The parent, the father's gonna go to jail. Yeah, well, this should have started years ago. So I think we can conclude that the next very sad trans person that does something

2:37:17 Shouldn't the parents also go to jail? Absolutely. I don't know if it's... I got a boots on the ground which was just so sad. Let me read this. Unemployed ER nurse here again. Working in a college town in the largest ER in half the state, I see a lot of trans people. I believe the 41% number to be low. A brief look at it says it is self-reported and only adults. I think this is a suicide rate from the last show. I think it could count on two hands the ones that I've worked with who haven't had an attempt. But usually they try over and over. It is truly heartbreaking to see how these mentally ill people have been lied to.

2:37:59 I used to laugh at them until I met them. They are unwell and pitiful. It is to the point where if someone is trans and they're at the ER for a medical issue, the management will immediately put them in the psych area because much like an intoxicated person, it is very rare for them to go through a whole visit without it turning into a suicidal ideation visit. I've seen many who are post-op and have continual infections and their anatomy has changed and so imaging is rarely diagnostic. in that it's an infection or just a resection colon. There are very few places for them to turn to help. The system is fine making them trans but not prepared to offer health care for the newly altered bodies. I believe suicide is a much higher number and all of the teens that transition are going to get strung out on drugs and alcohol once they hit late 20s and early 30s. I would expect another large increase in suicides. What a travesty.

2:38:55 Yeah, and the liberals are still sticking to it, sticking to their guns. I know, I know. Well, I do have one last clip for the, before the break, the Gen Z. There's a new comment. There's a new, maybe a phrase or something in this clip that's something that we should be aware of. The phrase that pays? Maybe. I may have a goofy ass haircut, but I think my lucky star is every single day that I'm not a fat, bald, and conservative with those tacky sunglasses and my piece of shit pickup truck. I misunderstood what happened here. I misunderstood it too. What's the point of the clip then? I'm trying to figure out why I clipped that.

2:39:38 It's something she said at the beginning. Let me hear it again. Hold on. You know, I may have a goofy ass haircut, but I think my lucky star is every single day that I'm not a fat, bald and conservative with those tacky sunglasses in my piece of shit pickup truck. Possibly. Oh, yeah. OK. I'd like to thank my lucky. It was something it wasn't lucky that my lucky stars with my lucky it was she she dreamed there's a phrase they couldn't say You can't even hear what hard to get worst worst clip ever worst clip of the day. We need a jingle Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah We actually have that

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2:53:43 We got John's tip of the day coming up as well as some really really cool end of show mixes we have you know, his back is Secret agent Paul did it you know when you? Mentioned two shows ago that AOC and Miss South Carolina Sounded like each other had you seen someone do that or was that of your own accord? I thought about it, so he didn't see it anywhere No, because there were like five different Podcasts. Oh, yeah, what's obvious? That's why I you know as they sound alike I

2:54:42 But it came right on the heels of our show and I'm like, you guys... Who knows? Well, secret agent Paul did the best AOC Miss South Carolina mashup. Yeah, that is a good one. I heard it earlier. It's done properly. It was a mixed match. Absolutely. Do you have no ISOs? Nope, I didn't, I had all the ISOs last time you didn't have any and so I'm giving you the free reign. Okay, you choose from one of the following two. This is all I got. Wow, that was a wild experience. I like that one. And there's this one. Oh my God, your audio is incredible! Bo! No, that's just too much for you. No. That's just you. Alright, we'll do the first one then. Hey everybody, it's time now for John's Tip of the Day! Great advice for you and me, just a tip with JCD. This comes in from a producer, and I thought it was worth putting up because these things normally cost money.

2:55:46 To have something so complete. This is a file type converter with Although I will say there's one file type missing from the, this is every file type imaginable. Take a look at it. The website's a, it's a GitHub project, so it's gonna have a screwy website. The website is P2R3, and that's P number two, R number three, lowercase, .github.io slash convert.

2:56:25 Wow, that's more than screwy. Let me see. I know it's terrible. It's just all right. Okay convert from so this does the conversion for you Yeah, wow there's a lot here. There's a lot there. It's just hundreds of this file. I've never even heard of But a lot of I never heard of either But I will say that anyone who has access to whoever coded this to tell them to put in KDC It's missing. What's KDC? Oh KDC is an early JPEG format that Kodak used and KDC stands for Kodak Digital Camera. Do you still have a floppy somewhere with these KDC pics on it? I have plenty of KDC files, yeah, because I was on the stick early in this game. You were, I was digital before anybody knew what was happening. That's right. Interesting.

2:57:22 And of course when you drag your file to convert it, he has a copy and he can blackmail you later. Yeah, well that's possible. I love the fact that there's an advanced mode. And it's the same by the way. It just turns orange. It just changes colors. Beautiful. There it is everybody. Find all of John's tips at noagendafund.com or tipoftheday.net. Creative advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti. That's right everybody. Thank you very much Dana Brunetti.

2:58:01 for creating that. We're so lucky. Behind the Schemes is coming up next on the No Agenda stream if you are gonna stick around listening live. And end of show mixes, we have Dee's Laughs, we've got MVP and Secret Agent Paul, we got some tributes to the Trolls, tributes to the Epstein files, and tributes to AOC and Miss South Carolina. What else do you need? Nothing, I say. Nothing at all. So we'll be back on Thursday to deconstruct the media for you. Who knows, maybe we'll have had some kind of Iranian strike. Maybe not. Whatever happens, we'll be here to deconstruct it just for you.

2:58:46 And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is just so lovely this time of year. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're going to get more rain again on Tuesday. I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, it's 50 degrees here today. It's kind of chilly. So we'll see you on Thursday. Remember to support the show at noagendadonations.com We can use all the support that you want to return from the value you receive today. Till then, adios mofos, ahooy hooy, and such. I see the blue light from the troll room today

2:59:26 Where you're sharpened and ready to start up a foray You're dissecting the love, you're counting the flaws With your digital pitchforks and your keyboard claws You say it's unnatural You say it's a cheat While you're rotting away in your ergonomic seat Oh, you hate my ice lock Trolls in the dark trying to blow out a flame With a cynical spark You're a jury of losers in a room with no view Judging a world that's moved on without you My vocals are piercing, my presence will win But I'm realer than any skin you're living in Stay in your basement Stay in your gloom I'm the ghost in your speakers and my... Oh, Rue Stay in your basement Stay in your gloom I'm the ghost in your speakers and my...

3:00:21 Would and should the US actually commit US troops to defend Taiwan? You know, I think that I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so. This is such a, you know, I think that this is a I believe that our education, such as in South Africa and Taiwan. This is of course a very longstanding policy of the United States. And Iraq, everywhere such as. And I think what we are hoping for is that we want to make sure that we never

3:01:17 get to that point and I believe that they should Our education over here in the US should help the US or should help Taiwan and we want to make sure that We are moving in all of our economic Research it should help Iraq and the Asian countries and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for that question to even arise Thank you very much, South Carolina Robert Maxwell covered his tracks well MI6, Mossad, French Foreign Legion and the FFL He couldn't tell, he was an asset to many in France, Britain, Hungary and Israel Ludwig Heymann, Benjamin Hart, he fed the Czech at 16 fearing his safety thinking that he would be killed

3:02:10 caught promising software was back and sold by the intel with the backdoor to you know who Israel started off with the program and press to cover more tracks and recruit more Nazi scientists acquiring more businesses a lot of them failed adding to the stress mentor to Jeffrey Epstein as well whoops mentor to Jeffrey as well Businesses were built up stretching the empire thin investments were drying up including the public offerings Welcome back and have the tales get strange and grand. We've got the news you want

3:03:02 believe from all across the land. The algorithms glitch and bend a digital surprise. Another headline makes no sense right before your eyes. It's all part of the narrative, just tune in for the ride. With John and Adam on the case, there's nowhere left to hide. Welcome to the second half The tales are strange and the news you hear you won't believe from all across the land The algorithms twist and bend and ditch it while surprised Another headline makes no sense right before your very eyes Narratives will settle in for the ride

3:04:08 Wow, that was a wild experience.