Episode 1795 · Sunday, 31 August 2025

Dead Feathered

A new administrative era begins with a frontal assault on the CDC while intelligence agencies tighten their grip on legacy media and medical technology.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 16m listen | 53 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1795

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Trump administration have signaled a massive restructuring of the CDC following the resignation of Dr. Demetre Daskalakis. Kennedy criticized the agency for prioritizing political ideology over scientific rigor, specifically targeting the promotion of water fluoridation and abortion as public health achievements. The transition team is reportedly investigating the 'autism horror show' and environmental factors like microplastics while facing intense pushback from legacy media figures like Dr. Peter Hotez and Dr. Richard Besser.

Dr. Robert Malone claims the CIA drove the rapid adoption of mRNA technology as a defense against germ warfare, bypassing traditional safety protocols. This intelligence influence extends to the media, with speculation that the Skydance acquisition of CBS, led by David Ellison, serves to realign the network with agency interests. Meanwhile, the U.S. has terminated the $800 de minimis exemption for international parcels, causing a surge in costs for consumers. In legal news, federal prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, citing his writings as a future danger to corporate entities.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the 'self-pity promotion machine' of social media, where outrage marketing and viral TikTok tropes drive engagement. The duo explores the strange world of the Poop Map app and the culinary benefits of fermented black garlic. Between reports of the Zephyr train passing the studio and a satirical 'trans-indigenous' bit by Josh Selter, the show maintains its signature skepticism of the pharmaceutical-industrial complex.


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CHAPTER 01 / 53 Discussion

X Advertising Glitches, Listener Feedback on Language

The hosts open the show discussing strange advertisements on X (formerly Twitter) promoting butter on ice cream. A listener provides feedback via a donation message, criticizing the use of sanitized language like "bullcrap" and urging the hosts to use natural profanity. The segment establishes the show's value-for-value model and addresses the demographic of the audience.

x· twitter· crumulent corpse· profanity· value-for-value· advertising· ice cream

00:00 Physical activity is now a medical condition. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday August 31st 2025 this is your award winning Kimmel Nation Media assassination episode 1795 This Is No Agenda Working on the holidays And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where i keep wondering why X or Twitter keeps sending me ads to use butter on ice cream? I'm John C. Dvorak. Wait a minute, so you're getting ads to use butter? Ads?! What is the ad for if it's an ad? I don't click on it. I refuse to click on it! It's stupid! It keeps...it has this little...It's an obvious ad that keeps cropping up. Ooh here's why you should put butter on ice cream

00:55 I'm sure other people have seen this. I don't see any ads on X. Are you paying not to get ads? No, no, I got the blue checkmark just because of my status. So here's what I get on X alright so you know whenever I fire off the bat signal like send out the tweet and boostitude and I slash the x and I whine on the Blue Cry And then I go to X because Darren always has a cute way of retweeting, reposting whatever we call it. So I'll repost his repost and right there is from Crumulent Corpse

01:36 One-liner you make this show my favorite hate listen you insufferable douche John's great though Insufferable douche that's a great line. I've gotten some amazing messages, this is another one From Jeff. Adam, I've been listening to your show every week for at least 10 years and been donating $15 a month for at least ten years with auto pay! You obviously have my full attention if you're this is a true value-for-value person. Yes, so? I finally need to give you this feedback please stop using terms like bullcrap just... I'm the one who does that that's me Just swear and talk like normal people talk

02:24 It is unlikely that young kids are listening to your show. That's not true, we know for a fact that young kids listen to the show, lot of disease! It completely dulls the tone when you sanitize language in that way and it sounds forced and awkward I'm telling ya this guy is friggin nuts Every other podcast out there uses colorful language which is part of the fun of podcasts. John sneaks in an F bomb once in a while and honestly it's refreshing I don't even know why I show up to the show you're just the guy everybody loves you you're the guy that gets to a certain age you get in there yeah be 61 on

CHAPTER 02 / 53 Discussion

Bully Winery, Burger King Heiress Birthday Party

A recent birthday celebration for the heiress of the Burger King franchise took place at the Bully Winery tasting room in Texas. The event marked her 70th birthday, prompting a discussion about the aesthetics of aging and the use of peptides to maintain health. The hosts reflect on the history of the Burger King brand and its commercialization by the heiress's father.

bully winery· burger king· whopper· miami dolphins· texas wine· aging· peptides

03:11 Wednesday, if you need to know. Yes, Wednesday thank you! Thank You! Wednesday yes on Wednesday. Yes Wednesday you will be 61 so we went to a birthday party yesterday which was actually it was quite cool there's this new Wine there's a new winery and they have a tasting room called bully B U L I They're now the guys in New Yorker, but he I think he lives in In Tuscany at least half of time maybe full-time has a vineyard there But their Texas wines you know the typical temper NEO etc And it was a birthday party for the for the burger heiress. Oh

03:56 We've talked, have we talked about the burger heiress? Yeah well I think we talked about it after the show. Oh well the burg- Which is the problem that we discuss about talking about stuff Yes yes she's the heiress to um Burger King Burger King yes She was, she literally grew up in I'll jump right in when you need me She literally grew up in the home of The Whopper And her dad, I don't think he started it but he commercialized it. So this same guy who owned the Miami Dolphins and so anyway she's very sweet. She and her Cajun husband...and she just turned 70! By the way, her birthday is also on September 3rd. We have a kinship. And I was like looking around this party and two things I noticed one they had napkins that said happy 70th birthday

04:47 When I turned 70, there will be no napkins that have the number on it. That's just not okay at a certain point. Was this a paper napkin that was printed? Yes, printed paper napkin. Okay they can probably buy those somewhere. Dude, her friends. Like Suzy looks great but there were some just really old, old crap I mean just...I'm like holy crap is that gonna be us in 10 years? I think somehow we're just gonna look better! I hope! Peptides Keep away from low T! I'm going for a tea panel actually

CHAPTER 03 / 53 Discussion

Testosterone Replacement Therapy, Sales Performance Benefits

A discussion regarding testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) explores its perceived benefits for physical daring and professional sales performance. One host recounts a personal history of using prescribed testosterone and its effects on libido and confidence during business negotiations. The conversation references Joe Rogan's public use of similar treatments.

testosterone· trt· joe rogan· libido· sales technique· medical prescription· race car drivers

05:34 had all conversation about it last night at dinner. I was like, okay! Okay, i'll go... You probably should have... I mean that Rogan uses the stuff and he's not old enough really and it's all you know It has its uh... Its benefits? Yeah well it's good for sex? It's actually more good for sales Who knows what sales is? Whoa whoa hold on a second What do you mean better for sales I had a doctor, or her doctor friend who put me on some tea for awhile because he was a nut about it and said you gotta try this. So he got a prescription to use it for awhile then I haven't been able to get it for some time because of the current doctors that have her. Oh they don't want to give it? You shouldn't use anything! But no matter what...

06:24 But I noticed that if you use it occasionally, because there's studies done about race car drivers and how their testosterone increases. And as it increases during a race they also get more daring and the main thing which is somewhat dangerous cause you can go nuts but the thing that I noticed explicitly is that you get, the libido increases to such an extent that's basically all it is. And once you start to achieve that, you can figure out how do I get to that feeling? You can do without the testosterone but it increases your ability to do sales. Can tell ya, does! What sales are you doing on the side that I'm unaware of? This goes way back when I was experimenting with this. This is the time I took you to Fringal and sold you on making me vice president of Medio

07:22 You were jacked on tea? Oh, now I am. Well it worked! It worked. Totally worked. Smooth as silk. Smooth as silk... I took pity on you old man. What are you talking about? I was just being nice, like ah let's get the guy. Whatever techniques or techniques. He doesn't care. It's all just technique! Well since we're talking about big pharma... Oh man the pharmaceutical industrial complex is out in full force every single where they can go they need to let you know that this anti-vaxxer this Kennedy is no good

CHAPTER 04 / 53 Discussion

RFK Jr. Criticizes CDC, Abortion and Fluoridation

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. issued a statement criticizing the CDC for its institutional culture and specific website content. He highlighted the agency's listing of abortion and water fluoridation as top medical accomplishments, calling for a change in leadership and a return to science-based recommendations. The segment examines the potential for restructuring the agency under a new administration.

rfk jr· cdc· abortion· fluoridation· vaccines· covid-19· medical innovation

08:05 He's a nut job, he's an anti-vaxxer. He's crazy! He is going to kill your children and here is the offending statement from RFK Jr. I would say this that first of all I will confirm that we let go of citizens in our race yesterday. I'm not gonna talk about personnel issues but you know the CDC is agency that is very troubled for a very long time and anybody who lives through the COVID pandemic has all of these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based, all the misinformation. Understand is that the CDC has on its website today among the top 10 medical innovations greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion this one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps small families go to the website look at it

08:58 fluoridation giving kids a toxin and vaccines. There's a lot of trouble at CDC and it can require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture, bring back pride and self-esteem that makes that agency this stellar agency that has always been on I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now, that they're going to be able to accomplish that and ensure the competent functionality of that agency. How about changing the website for starters? That might be an idea! You're the boss! Why does the website say all this crap?! Number one medical innovation abortion...that is ghoulish. Medical innovation

CHAPTER 05 / 53 Discussion

11 Labs Voice Isolation, Pharmaceutical Influencer Marketing

The use of 11 Labs AI technology for voice isolation and enhancement is discussed in the context of improving audio quality for political clips. This transitions into a critique of the pharmaceutical industry's shift toward using social media influencers to bypass traditional television advertising restrictions. The hosts question the legality of paid drug promotions without clear disclaimers on digital platforms.

11 labs· ai· pharmaceutical industry· influencers· advertising laws· eczema drugs· voice isolation

09:50 Gee, by the way I've found if you ever have you ever played looked at 11 labs 11 labs Yeah, that's why use for my guys when I use money when I do Voices so running Bobby the op through the voice isolator Which is typically meant to remove backgrounds song music or whatever really enhances his speech. Oh This was much worse and I ran it through that, I was like wow this is working. I can understand him much better. Interesting So anyway yeah change the website would be our Curry Dvorak Consulting Group recommendation but no no that... No we have to go and just see what the pharmaceutical industry is doing

10:34 Because they know that their days are probably limited on television advertising They are flooding the market with influencers of everything. Yeah, you have this thesis I saw you promote it in an email and it wasn't promoting It was just someone now your working or which would wood shopping you shop as you would do it's not working It was wood shopping Yes, of course. Of course everybody's an influencer are you kidding me? Everything is... How is an influencer gonna kind of

11:12 going to promote Rizal or some of these crazy drugs that they push. Oh, you watch? You just watch I mean it's like what's the headache exit eczema and look at my arm and it's great now of course they're gonna have to pass so you know they have a law that you can't do these commercials saying you were being paid so if they if these are being paid these influence are being paid to promote eczema drugs. Yeah. Are they gonna have to do the disclaimer? Well, they should! Well are they going to have to? Let me give you an example of a of an influencer or very famous influencer clearly paid not like he took a check directly it came through another Avenue and went into a separate bank account but he can use it for certain things this is the number one medical influencer out there on the internet today thanks very much for joining

CHAPTER 06 / 53 Discussion

Bernie Sanders, Vaccine Safety and Medicaid Claims

Senator Bernie Sanders criticized the Trump administration and RFK Jr. for firing the head of the CDC, Dr. Susan Montero. Sanders defended the safety and efficacy of vaccines while claiming that proposed Medicaid cuts would throw 15 million people off healthcare. The hosts dispute these claims, labeling the "safe and effective" mantra as a meme used to suppress dissent regarding mRNA technology.

bernie sanders· medicaid· cdc· susan montero· rfk jr· mrna· vaccines

12:12 Dangerously, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy are wreaking havoc on our already broken and dysfunctional healthcare system. I love the slogan it's a great slogan make America healthy again fantastic unfortunately the Trump administration is doing just the opposite You don't make America healthy by throwing 15 million people off the healthcare they have, which is what Trump's big beautiful bill does. You don't make America healthy by as a result of these Medicaid cuts shutting down or creating a decline in services for hundreds of nursing homes community health centers and hospitals throughout the country. He still on script

13:00 But it gets even worse than that. Secretary Kennedy has just fired the head of the CDC, Dr Susan Montero who has been on the job for just a few weeks. Her crime? Well, she refused to be a rubber stamp for Kennedy's anti-vaccine conspiracy theories. That is her crime that's why she was fired. How does that work? Yeah well the rubber stamp is the key but wait for it the influencer part is coming he get... He was given the line and he's gonna pay it off In other words She believes what virtually the entire medical and scientific community believe

13:40 And that is, that vaccines are an enormously important public health tool which protect the health and welfare of our children and all Americans. It is a bit absurd to have to say this in the year 2025 but let me say it Vaccines are safe and effective. Hit it again, hit it again Bernie. Say it again. Hit it again. Vaccines are safe and effective. Okay. Say that third time come on Bernie. Vaccines are safe and effective so first of all if she loves saving children so much I don't think the number one medical innovation should be abortion on her website. That's not saving any...that's saving children for

14:27 for a jar of formaldehyde. For a rainy day! So, but this is...this whole thing is very confusing because it's really about the MRNA vaccine and specifically the COVID vaccine and how long? And by the way for people who didn't know that was Bernie Sanders. Some people didn't know it funny enough Yeah, it's pretty hard not to catch that voice. But he... this repeating safe and effective over and over again is the big lie! It's a huge lie! Those vaccines were never safe and they were definitely not effective And you also threw in there that

15:13 Rubber stamp. That's that's part of the meme and what else do you throw in there? rubber stamp Anyway, I mean it is a meme but now they're gonna use it so that she wouldn't rubber-stamp his vaccine policy So the vacs oh yeah The other lie was 15 million people gonna lose their health care not true Oh Yeah this yeah You know and and and the extrapolation Of that lie is all these rural hospitals will have to close well The first would have to be true for the second to be true And the first one is not true. Yes, some people may have to if you're on disability but you can actually do work or if your stay at home mom you make this there's some stipulations and it the problem is the states have to make up for the difference everyone's up in arms but specifically mRNA which I think we can say was not 100% safe and was not 100 percent effective and Bobby Kennedy has continuously said

CHAPTER 07 / 53 Discussion

Dr. Peter Hotez, Inactivated Virus vs mRNA Technology

Dr. Peter Hotez is criticized for his shifting stance on vaccine technologies, specifically his recent comments regarding whole inactivated virus vaccines. Hotez argued that older vaccine technologies are prone to side effects like Guillain-Barre syndrome, citing the 1976 swine flu incident. The hosts suggest that the medical establishment is now disparaging traditional vaccines to protect the market dominance of mRNA technology.

peter hotez· mrna· swine flu· guillain-barre syndrome· yellow fever· vaccines· subunit vaccines

16:13 that some vaccines are good, not the ones with thimerosal which is mercury. He's against this early administration of it certainly hepatitis B to a newborn seems insane. But now this is almost like whoa how did this happen? Because he's focused specifically on mRNA Now people the people who are supposed to be promoting all vaccines are confused in particular Dr. Hotez

16:51 Listen to what he now says about the safe and effective vaccines. And instead, he's pushing this idea of whole inactivated virus vaccines which is a much older technology and... No! Hold on! It's the technology we're still using? That is what's called a vaccine. Yes Yes, an actual vaccine. But it's old technology is 1.0 man haven't you been following the narrative? Their technology and the reason he went to mRNA or you go to subunit vaccines like what we did with our recombinant protein COVID vaccines Hold on a second I had to look that up because we know that he's in the vaccine business Hotez Yeah Sub unit vaccines

17:39 I had to look it up. Subunit vaccines are vaccines that use only specific parts, sub-units of a pathogen such as proteins or poly... Spike protein! Yeah basically here have some spike protein but wait gets better to stimulate an immune response rather than the whole pathogen they are apparently safer than live or inactivated vaccine since they can't cause disease but They often require adjuvants to boost immunity. Examples include hepatitis B and HPV vaccines, so Hotez is in on all this and of course well you know it's much better but mRNA! MRNA is the technology we know it's safe and effective it saved millions of people's lives pay no attention

18:26 to the VAERS database and now he's going completely nuts. And with a new virus and a new pathogen, an emerging pandemic threat you don't know if the virus is going to grow well in the lab or not. There's no way to predict so that's problem number one sometimes even if you want to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine you may not have enough virus to inactivate So that's problem and we're sometimes facing that now with yellow fever vaccine. So that's problem number one, problem number two is it produces a lot of side effects if you remember in 1976 there was a big push to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine against swine flu

19:16 and it caused high rates of Guillain-Barre syndrome. And that's because the whole inactivated virus technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology, so why he would pick that is just absolutely makes no sense I think what he was... He just came out against all vaccines. He's an anti-vaxxer! Oh no, all kinds of side effects particularly for yellow fever the swine flu vaccine in 76 didn't just give people Guillain Barre it killed people yeah we're dying people were dying Yeah we had a couple I knew it I didn't know him personally but there's

19:54 Family members of certain people that worked at the air pollution district died from that shot. Yeah, so but so now every vaccine is no longer safe and effective except mRNA this is spectacular! This is a clip of the day by the way to push coming out of the Maha movement, Make America Healthy Again. Boasts about natural immunity and this kind of stuff and so he thinks maybe it'll more closely resemble natural immunity It doesn't! It causes severe side effects So pretty much everything Every statement coming out of HHS about mRNA vaccines is incorrect And it puts the American people under great threat Oh yeah from vaccines!

20:52 Holy mackerel, this guy is... doesn't he know what he's taught? Does he have a clue what he just said? No. It's no way you could have a clue! that this is just baffling. He slammed the entire vaccine industry since the late 1700s, yes they're all no good except mRNA which we know for a fact is no good safe and effective baby safe and effective you know Bill Maher had some natural some doctor from I don't know Stanford or somebody on who's a health nut and he had been more all of a sudden I don't have to clip it ever thought to clip it but Marg

CHAPTER 08 / 53 Discussion

Robert Malone, CIA Involvement in mRNA Development

Dr. Robert Malone claims that the U.S. intelligence community, specifically the CIA, drove the rapid adoption of mRNA technology as a defense against germ warfare. The discussion suggests that the administrative state bypassed normal safety procedures because they viewed mRNA as the only viable "quick response" tool. The hosts also speculate on why media figures like Bill Maher have become vocal supporters of the technology.

robert malone· cia· moderna· biontech· germ warfare· bill maher· adenovirus

21:31 goes on about mRNA and how important it is. I don't know who got to him or said, got him to bring this up but this reminds me of the... This is a deep state meme. We had a clip that I had developed from Malone the guy who always likes to credit himself with partially inventing that technology who said in the clip That it was the CIA that determined that we needed a quick response in case of it. I have it, you want to hear? Yeah let's play that clip All these circumventing of normal procedures and rules

22:09 That's happening because largely our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure. And why are they doing it? I think if we just back up for a minute and say, okay let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Okay? What I think they are believing is that they have to push this They have to get acceptance for this technology because there are no alternatives and the threat is so severe in their opinion, in their spooky world. The threat is so severe that something has to exist and this is something they've latched onto I'm saying this not to defend them. I am saying this to try help you understand what you've been subjected too There ya go! Found a clip in two seconds

23:03 And that was, he's talking about the mRNA vaccine as a technology to prevent germ warfare. to develop a product quickly, because that's what it does. It's like an overnight sensation instead of having to grow all these bacteria or viruses in the lab to get the vaccine. Overnight sensation? This mRNA is the Taylor Swift of the medical industry! It's an overnight sensation and so they think that this is the solution for germ warfare which is a pipe dream It doesn't work. No, they've latched onto it. The competition was the adenovirus technology which is used for Zika and a couple of other things and that was also a quick fix you could do it quickly but not as quick as this and mRNA somehow they've convinced themselves that this is the way to go and that's why the CIA was invested in Moderna

24:02 Pfizer. I guess Pfizer or a BioNTech, BioNTech. So that's why I think Bill Maher comes out and he goes on about how important this is. Like I said who got to him but the other guy couldn't argue about it And it's just a, we're stuck with this. We're going to be stuck and they're going to bring up more MRNA to try to prove it works again that there are gonna be a second go around is not necessarily gonna be with the pandemic. It won't be COVID but something else yeah. They'll say we got a flu solution you know or we have a thing for something thats gonna be for something or other and its not quite as drastic as COVID-19 The sad thing is

CHAPTER 09 / 53 Discussion

COVID-19 Booster Restrictions, Physical Inactivity Condition

New recommendations for COVID-19 boosters limit eligibility to high-risk individuals, though the criteria include common factors like obesity and "physical inactivity." A news clip from Seattle features a senior citizen expressing fear of exposure from the unvaccinated, demonstrating the persistence of pandemic-era social divisions. The hosts mock the classification of sitting for long periods as a medical condition qualifying one for a booster.

covid-19· boosters· cdc· asthma· obesity· physical inactivity· pharmacy

24:49 The memes that were spread during COVID still hold true today. People, and I'm just going to tell you because it's in the clip, I just got to tell you that people who are vaccinated, people who are all in on the mRNAs, this case is about COVID and remember the meme is, You won't have access to it! Well yeah, you will have access your insurance may not cover it your pharmacy may require a doctor's note It's a recommendation, it's off the recommended list for most people. But people who have been brainwashed still believe that if you get the vaccine but someone else doesn't, you're in danger. This is the crazy part about it and that's what we were told for over almost three years! You may get the vaccine—you're a good doobie—but if that person over there, that seething infected human resource doesn't get it, you're gonna die

25:50 And of course, you know grandma will never sit at the table anymore etc. This is from Seattle as new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out this by itself is a lie There's not restrictions on who can get it its restrictions on who would wreck? It's right not recommended for most and by... It's not a restriction. Yes, it is not a restriction. There is better word I can't think of right off the top of my head but there is better word for this. Recommendation? Yeah recommendation would work. Here we go. As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out healthcare providers are working to determine how this will be handled as people look to get their booster shots

26:38 I don't agree with it at all. Seniors like Linda Caffelli are still able to get the shot, but she still has concerns being a senior. I can get the shot for those people who can't get it then I'm affected because some exposed this is what I am saying this is unbelievable That is unbelievable. You should get another clip of the day. I'm taking another clip of the day! Here we go, everybody! Whoa! Because this is out-of-the gate. The absurdity of this whole thing... Well but it's unfortunately this lie which clearly is still firmly embedded in people's minds who do not even understand how vaccines are supposed to work

27:27 This has divided families, friends, neighbors. This very lie! Well you know I got it but my neighbor didn't and you can't come in my house But aren't you protected by the vaccine? Well we all know the answer is no so we continue Being a senior...I can get the shot but for those people who can't get it then I'm affected because I'm exposed. So and it's you know, yeah and we have grandchildren you know? We just want to make sure that everybody is safe. I'm gonna get it going to kill my grandchildren! To get the updated COVID-19 vaccine children

28:06 and younger adults must have at least one high-risk health condition. But doctors say... Good news, hold on! Good news everybody pay attention Most people still might qualify Asthma physical inactivity type 2 diabetes obesity Wait wait wait stop This is great Asthma, asthma physical activity. Let me see that's a condition? Let's listen hold on let's listen. Say most people still might qualify. Asthma physical inactivity Physical yeah he says physical is that what I'm- Physical activity is now a medical condition. Asthma physical inactivity type 2 diabetes. I think he's saying inactivity

28:50 Which also is not a medical condition. But alright, yeah see what you mean. Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes, obesity... The list is actually quite long and so a significant portion most estimates suggest a majority of Americans meet one of those criteria. Wow! We are the sickest people... Hey, did you sit down today? Have you sat on your ass for an hour? Oh that's physical inactivity and you're qualified No no because I pay attention to my Apple Watch circles when the circle is not full i gotta stand up when my watch tells me to stand up by standing up all right well I'm good I'm healthy And so there is still the availability of a booster booster booster booster as well as this decision can be made with

29:37 He went so nuts on that. Booster! I just had to repeat it." And so there is still the availability of, uh... booster, booster, booster, booster, booster As well as this decision can be made with one's health care provider. But it could be trickier to get a COVID vaccine at the pharmacy. I think some of the more challenging aspects of it are going to be around just sort of like walking up to the pharmacist, someone you don't have a treating relationship with and then being like knowing that they're gonna get reimbursed For giving you the vaccine that could be a little bit more in flux as well I'm very concerned now because as a podcaster, I'm on my ass seven hours a week. Oh yeah your physical How about podcast listeners? It's just horrible oh My goodness so obviously we had to bring the

CHAPTER 10 / 53 Discussion

Dr. Demetre Daskalakis Resignation, CDC Ideology Claims

Dr. Demetre Daskalakis resigned from the CDC, claiming that RFK Jr.'s policies are designed to hurt public health rather than improve it. In an interview with ABC News, Daskalakis argued that narrowing vaccine recommendations for children ignores data on hospitalizations. The hosts analyze the language used in the interview, suggesting the "designed to hurt" phrasing is a deliberate ideological attack on the new administration.

demetre daskalakis· cdc· rfk jr· hhs· childhood vaccines· abc news· martha raddatz

30:34 We had to bring out the pharmaceutical industry into the shows. This is all the Sunday show, so this is fresh off the press ABC This Week Martha with Dr. Demente Or is it Dimitri? I don't know. I'm joined now by Dr. Dmitry Daskalakis, who stepped down this week from his position leading the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Thank you for joining us this morning doctor By the way if these guys are all about the fight why do they step down? Why don't they stay in it Don't step down. I'm quitting out of resistance if you really mean it. I agree with you wouldn't you stay in fight? You're right and i'd have more respect for him like okay this guy really believes what he's thinking let's hear about it no, I'm stepping down I'm stepping away from this I won't work for these heathens

31:26 I've been at the CDC for five years, about seven months under Secretary Kennedy. Our podcast is going 18 years he's quitting after 5. Yeah really? Loser! The CDC is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the public's health. Oh hold on The leading question, but there's actually Kennedy is designed to hurt. Yes he's actually the devil. He's like ha ha I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr., here to kill your children. Is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the publics health That's actionable as far as i am concerned That an actionable statement

32:20 You can't say that. Can't you just say he's designing this to hurt people? Okay, I don't know how much liability there is when it comes to a public figure like that with a... That comment is borderline. It might be possible if you had a good lawyer What are you talking about specifically? Yes Dr Demento come on in I'm going to say, well first thank you for having me on Martha and i'll say that we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. So right now I think probably the most prominent demonstration of that is what Secretary Kennedy did with changing the childhood schedule for COVID-19 in that we were directed that only children with underlying conditions would be the ones that should qualify for vaccination That's not what the data shows six months old two year old they're

33:09 underlying condition is youth. 53% of those children hospitalized last season had no underlying conditions, the data say that in that age range you should be vaccinating your child I understand that not everybody does it but But they have limited access by narrowing that recommendation. Insurance may not cover it. May not, meh... May not. And what was the total? Oh 200 I think is 200 it comes up later but it does bring an actual number in instead of 50% okay. Yeah yeah 200 total

33:46 There is something that is going kind of unreported amidst this whole fracas. And you say designed to hurt, the policies are designed... No! You said designed to hurt! Wow! Oh, that's a good switcheroo. Good catch too! You know what happened? The control room went blame it on him. Blame it on him We can't we don't want the lawsuit. They've already been sued and we already lost. Blame it on Demento And you say designed to hurt the policies are designed to hurt the publics health I said twice. Are you saying they deliberately purposely knowingly hurting public health Wow

34:26 I mean, from my vantage point as a doctor who's taken the Hippocratic oath. I only see harm coming on my maybe wrong but he's so smart yeah based on what i'm seeing based on what i've heard with the new members of the advisory committee for immunization practices or ACIP they're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination. What is the ideology? Did he say ideology? Yeah, yeah. They're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination Is that an ideology I think you could see it as such if you were him He could be wrong They do want to see the undoing of mRNA vaccination They have a very specific target on COVID but I do feel... They really are sticking to this mRNA thing This goes back again to the Malone and the intelligence community Yes!

CHAPTER 11 / 53 Discussion

Hepatitis B Birth Dose, CDC Scientific Diplomacy

The discussion shifts to the potential removal of the Hepatitis B vaccine birth dose from the standard schedule. Dr. Daskalakis argued that this dose is critical for children of mothers who did not receive prenatal care to prevent future liver scarring and cancer. The hosts question the necessity of administering this vaccine to newborns and critique the doctor's emotional delivery during his resignation interview.

hepatitis b· cirrhosis· liver cancer· cdc· hhs· prenatal care· medical ethics

35:26 They really, they're true believers at this regard. At this point. True believers. It's the AI of the medical industry man! And that is where the ideology comes in and this is an ideological position. Yes yes! So they project the way you always like to say it in a Dutch term. is that they're seeing it, they've seen the other side as being the same way. I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine Yes! To zero So that kids don't get it when they're born. So if you have a mother who is well connected to care, You know her hepatitis b status That may not matter very much But if you have a mother who's not gone to pri-

36:18 to prenatal care, who comes in to deliver. We have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine. Why does it matter? Kids who have hepatitis B they get liver scarring is called cirrhosis later in life or it's a really common cause of liver cancer. So these kids are boozing it up when they're born as how they gets liver cirrhosis I find this hard to believe. What is hepatitis B and how do you get it contracted? It's a blood disease, I mean you get from blood Needles needles would be one way look at that you have your machine there all right hold on ask the girl about how you get hepatitis b I'm going to Ask the girl remember her name is error so error tell me How do you get hepatitis B

37:14 Hepatitis B spreads through blood, semen or other bodily fluids. John you might want to be more careful with your habits sharing needles or unprotected common ways also from mother to child during birth or contaminated medical equipment stay safe unlike clueless John she's gone crazy what you put that in there clueless John I didn't do that she just gone nuts This is this is that there you go AI it's the best thing since sliced bread. I don't know what its doing There you go. Last clip. You made the decision to leave saying there is not a path for doing good for public health at the CDC, so what effect will this have on the CDC? All these resignations, your resignation... Talk slower! Are you worried about what you're leaving behind and that others may follow you? Oh no stay in fight

38:10 Of course I'm worried. It hit the line when both I didn't think that we were going to be able to present science in a way free of ideology, that the firewall between science and ideology has completely broken down. And not having scientific leader at CDC meant that we wouldn't be able to have the necessary diplomacy and connection with HHS to be able to really execute on good public health.

38:49 Both of those things mean that I can't do my job and that my scientists can't do their job. When that happens, that's the beginning of harm and that's the end of what i can do as a physician who said at first I would do no harm. I couldn't be any more gay! I don't know where you come up with that? Oh just to hear him is just he's gay... The guys are super gay Oh man. Well, I have a...I mean they didn't stop on ABC. This is all ABC by the way. ABC for some reason just went to the mat and you're right they just settled the lawsuit with with the president they should be careful what they're doing here so- You know i was thinking about this earlier because I was looking at CBS this morning I was trying to figure out how when before the show

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CBS Ownership, Skydance and CIA Influence

The hosts speculate that the acquisition of CBS by Skydance, led by Larry Ellison's son, represents a move by the intelligence community to correct the network's ideological drift. They suggest that Oracle's historical ties to the CIA indicate a restructuring of CBS to better align with agency messaging. This observation follows a perceived decline in the quality and audience reach of CBS news programming.

cbs· skydance· larry ellison· oracle· cia· media ownership· news cycle

39:43 You're two hours ahead of me, but when I get up before the show... ...I always check some news feed right away to make sure that World War III didn't start. So your clips are relevant? That's why you can adjust my thinking! But I was watching CBS and realized they've kind of gone off the deep end CBS, I think you know we always call it the CIA broadcasting system. Mm-hmm. I think they went off the rails and I think it's the CIA that pulled a plug on them because if you think about it Skydance is run by Larry Ellison son an Oracle The corporation has always been tightly associated with with the agency hmm so there so the agency is resting control back

40:32 Oh. From CBS because the guys have gone so lib that they're not messaging correctly, they're losing their audiences, they have bad people working there and they're going to clean house once Skydance guys take over Yeah that seems logical Here's another doctor This is... who is this doctor? This doctor is Dr Richard Bessert Besser, sorry Besser. So kids are gonna die no matter what you think Robert F Kennedy jr is a kid he's a murderer He's a kitty killer I'm joined now by former acting CDC director dr Richard Besser Now president and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation

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Dr. Richard Besser, Robert Wood Johnson Foundation

Former acting CDC director Dr. Richard Besser expressed fear regarding the loss of leadership at the agency during public health emergencies. Besser, now CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, cited 200 annual pediatric COVID deaths as a reason to maintain broad vaccination efforts. The hosts criticize the foundation's focus on "health equity" and question the validity of Besser's statistics.

richard besser· robert wood johnson foundation· cdc· health equity· pediatric deaths

41:21 Would you like to remind us about the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation? Oh, I can't remember all the details but it's bad. Yes, yeah it is. Dr Besser always good to see you President Trump has fired a lot of people since he took office again many others in the CDC have quit now what real difference will this make? Oh dead kids on the street! You know Martha I think the difference is going to be profound The CDC is an absolutely critical piece of the protection for Americans from any public health threat. Now with the director being removed, senior leadership leaving I have great fears for what will happen to this country the next time we face a public health emergency whether it's a massive earthquake, a new infectious agent or unfortunately the next pandemic and we've been talking about the COVID recommendations

42:16 What are the practical considerations? How serious is it, I think people say it's not 2020 so do I really need to get the booster or the vaccine. Yeah, you know it is in 2020 but I'm a pediatrician. I practice pediatrics for more than 30 years and we are still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID. Anyway here's with the number. But you know I'm a pediatrician. I practiced pediatrics for more than thirty years And we are still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID. And the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated, so what? So there are vaccinated children dying from COVID? What happens to safe and effective? What's the vast majority of the 200? Yeah, what is that percentage? Oh no! Now we don't get a percentage from them

43:10 But apparently kids are dying after being protected by the COVID vaccine. Something is wrong here. Still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID and the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated so my recommendation is that you stop listening to the politicians, talk to your doctor about what's right for for you There are individuals who are at greater risk, but there are also people who live with those who are at greater risk. Live with elderly people, live with people with cancer for those individuals getting a COVID vaccine is really important unfortunately with the recommendations coming out of the department many people may have to pay for this out-of-pocket and a lot of people can't afford to do that

43:53 Oh, there you go. The CDC is not a department I might point out the CDC is kind of a weird beast altogether sitting there in Atlanta we've got a whole other extra nonprofit fund RFK jr should explain to the American people how that operation actually operates No one's gonna do that under Richard I'm looking at a citation here under Richard Besson leadership the foundation prioritized health equity. So we all die, that's the idea? That's equitable! Everybody dies everybody dies alright two more clips from this Jamoke because of what you're seeing at the CDC who should people take advice from now the CDC still? What kind of question is that? Let me think how would I answer that no you can't listen to the CDC listen to

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CDC Agency Status, School Vaccine Mandates

A debate ensues regarding whether the CDC is technically a federal agency or a department, noting its unique location in Atlanta rather than Washington D.C. Dr. Besser argued that ending vaccine mandates for schools is a "major step backwards" that endangers children for whom vaccines do not work. The hosts counter that the establishment's insistence on mandates contradicts the claim that vaccines provide individual protection.

cdc· hhs· atlanta· vaccine mandates· parental choice· h1n1· public health

44:53 Well, for personal health information I think you need to talk to your doctor your nurse your pharmacist. You know, I worry though about the nation as a whole. You know, I served as the acting director of the CDC at the start of the Obama administration and the reason I was given that job was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years they wanted to make sure... What agency? First he says department, then he says agency. The CDC is not an agency... Is he talking about the CDC? Yeah I think so That's not an agency Could it be could it be defined as an agency? I don't think so Well let's take a look ask your friend All right Is the CDC considered an agency of the government

45:47 No, John. Darling the District of Columbia isn't considered an agency of the government it's a federal district with its own local government. She thinks it's DC! I'm not even gonna ask her. Ask again but that says Centers for Disease Control be more specific you want to ask oh? I'm not asking nothing because she's condemning me You've got some code you put in there so every time she answers a question has got something to do with me nice try Is the Centers for Disease Control considered an agency? Yes. The CDC is a federal agency, John unlike you who's just a federal pain part of the U.S Department of Health and Human Services my brilliant love anything else handsome

46:33 She's gotten all jitty on you. Well, she got that part right! She's gotten all jitty on you... I like insulting error better Anyway okay so then i guess it's..I thought it was well we'll have to look into that We have looked into it But the CDC is not your typical agency. It's also located in Atlanta, which should tell you something it's not in DC was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years They wanted to make sure someone was in that seat in the event There was a public health emergency and there was there was the h1n1 swine flu pandemic We now have as an acting director Someone with absolutely no public health experience and that puts us all at incredible risk

47:14 And Dr. Besser, I want to ask you one thing about mandates It's one of the things that Secretary Kennedy said this week and touted progress that he's made He said he ended the mandate Why do you think mandates are important? Well when I think about mandates, I think about children going to school I think about young parents who are sending their children to school and want to know that their children are safe And the way children are safe from vaccine preventable diseases is by getting vaccinated themselves, but no vaccine is 100%. And so you count on the other children in that classroom being vaccinated. I think with this secretary we're on a path to it being largely parental choice and that's gonna put at risk those people for whom the vaccine didn't work and children who may have medical conditions where they can't get vaccinated. That is a major step backwards for public health

CHAPTER 15 / 53 Discussion

RFK Jr. Autism Research, Ozempic Side Effects

RFK Jr. and President Trump discussed researching the causes of the "autism horror show," leading to media backlash regarding unsubstantiated links to vaccines. The hosts note that critics label RFK Jr.'s skepticism as "ideology" while ignoring potential environmental factors like microplastics. Additionally, a news item from Australia is mentioned where a woman on Ozempic allegedly stabbed family members, cited as a potential extreme side effect.

rfk jr· autism· ozempic· australia· big pharma· ideology· vaccines

48:09 This is so interesting. It's like, first of all if you're vaccinated you still can get killed by an unvaccinated then it's a parental choice which is clearly very bad and then it's like well some kids can't get vaccinated and other kids who aren't vaccinated will kill the other kids meanwhile we got actual kids killing kids with guns everywhere who are hyped up on other pharmaceutical nonsense. I know there's been concern from public health officials like you about Kennedy given his history of unsubstantiated claims about the link between vaccines... Unsubstantiated claims, I tell you! ...and autism he talked about researching the causes of autism this week with President Trump let's listen Here we go everybody The autism is such a tremendous

49:00 a horror show. How are you doing on that? We're finding interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly almost certainly causing autism. Again there's no scientific support for a link between autism and vaccines but are you concerned about what he might announce? He didn't actually even say that she just presumed that's what he gonna say he could say it's microplastics for all we know but she's just presuming that's what's going to happen I'm very concerned. You know, when he was being confirmed to be secretary one of the things he said is don't listen to him for scientific advice He's not a scientist but since he has become secretary he very frequently is making scientific proclamations that have absolutely no basis

49:51 So I'm worried as to what he'll say. There's incredible research going on to try and understand the many causes of autism, and how to provide the best services for people who are on the autism spectrum. I don't see this is a secretary who is gonna follow science... Science! He has been following ideology from day one. Ideology there it is again ideology What is his ideology? You want to know what is this ideology. Yes, well she's going to ask it keep playing the show. No that was the last clip let me ask Error. Error what is the ideology behind Robert F Kennedy Jr.'s policies? Intuitionism and skepticism Zionist shill Adam blending environmentalism with distrust in big institutions like vaccines and Big Pharma

50:45 Think natural foods, anti-establishment vibes and conspiracy leaning health policies. She called me a Zionist shill! What's up with that? Well everybody knows that... She just lashing out Zionist shill at him sounds like... She's gone crazy!! This thing is.. That's grok. That thing is no good anyway so There you go. I don't know if you had anything else in this department, but... I have nothing in this department and let you go! Yeah by the way Ozympic side effects may have caused a granny to stab her family members in Australia so that's just a slight side effect everybody. Oh stabbing? Stabbing stabbed her daughter and her grandson yeah it was it was the Ozympic

CHAPTER 16 / 53 Discussion

Luigi Mangione, United Healthcare CEO Murder

Federal prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the execution-style murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Prosecutors argue Mangione is a "future danger" because his writings might inspire others to use violence against corporate entities. The hosts discuss a separate shooting at the NFL headquarters involving Shane Tamura, linking these events to grievances against large corporations like Blackstone.

luigi mangione· brian thompson· united healthcare· blackstone· death penalty· nfl· midtown shooting

51:34 Sure, yeah. Did that this has not been documented? This is bulgar. This is an excuse for stabbing Yes probably Probably she's a murderer the woman no it because they didn't die they were okay. She's not a murderer all right I'm gonna give you some kudos some kudos. Thank you. Okay. Let's move on to the next My kudos oh so you wanna know what the kudos are for regarding The shooting in New York, which the media played off as against NFL for the guy's brain injuries. What did you say it was? Blackstone they had the guys from Las Vegas there is their black stone is the number one their number one target area for buying up houses and doing real estate deals is Las Vegas and he killed the head of Blackstones Real Estate Division

52:35 which probably has something to do with this Las Vegas thing and I think he lost his house or somebody, something happened. They didn't want to cover it they wanted to cover it up because they don't want New York City to be filled a bunch of people shooting the CEOs in the big buildings is not going to be any good for the city Well, even though they don't deconstruct it the way you did. The end result is kind of the same federal prosecutors say Luigi Mangione may have influenced last month's mass shooting at an office building in midtown in a new court filing. Prosecutors say by carrying out the execution style murder of United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson, Mangione quote hope to normalize the use of violence

53:14 And joining us now to break it down is ABC's Aaron Kuterski. Aaron, let's start what exactly are federal prosecutors arguing in this new filing? Well they're explaining a little bit more about why they want to pursue the death penalty for Luigi Mangione on federal charges to which he's pleaded not guilty and Brittany they say one of the reasons is because he's a future danger. And you say to yourself, how is Luigi Mangione in custody charged with murdering Brian Thompson going to be a danger to anyone? And prosecutors say it's his ability to inspire and they take the words delay denied depose written on the bullets They take some of the writings that police say were seized from him after his arrest where they believe Mangione not only wanted to kill Brian Thompson but also make up a larger point

54:00 And that is to use, to encourage others to use violence instead of dialogue. To make some sort of political point or objective. Was there anything in the NFL headquarter shooting in Midtown that related to Mangione? Not specifically but federal prosecutors pointed it to this most recent court filing just look at Shane Tamura And what he did, he also left writings behind indicating that he had a grievance against an entity. In this case not health care but the NFL allegedly for causing traumatic brain injury and instead of trying to work it out somehow what did he do? Prosecutors noted he used violence marching into 345 Park Avenue with an assault style rifle

54:49 This is real. And shooting the head of Blackstone, I mean come on! Where's the NFL in this? And where's that note? This bullcrap they made all that part up Yeah this is by the way the assault style rifle love that Assault style yeah but isn't this the definition what most of these people go through, like going postal. You know someone was mad about his job at the post office this is what it's called. Yeah absolutely! Although did how many times? Did it only really happen once or twice I think? How many times do you think- Well the postal thing happened about half dozen times maybe a dozen that went on for a long time yeah well there you go because one guy did everyone else did so now they want to kill Mangione because he might inspire people which is kind of odd

CHAPTER 17 / 53 Discussion

The Zephyr Train, Local Infrastructure Changes

The hosts react to the sound of the Zephyr train passing by the studio, noting its unusual Sunday schedule. They lament the construction of a new apartment building near the tracks that blocks the view of the train, despite muffling the noise for other residents. The segment highlights a personal interest in local rail activity and the changing landscape of the Texas Hill Country.

zephyr· train· gillespie county· texas· urban development· noise pollution· foamer

55:39 But just put him in maximum security prison, he's not going to inspire anybody from there. No you have to thwart people by saying you will die! I don't know about that working it makes them a martyr i think it's dangerous Well so back to your premise the whole report is made up and bullcrap because really what it's about is this kind of Luigi vigilantism I think the Zephyr just went by. No! You're late. Something went by, yep. Are you looking for the clip? Yes, I am. It depends on how many no's you say when you're looking for the clip. That was good. Is this it? Nah, we don't have it. Listen to that horn. But...I thought we had a Zephyr thing

56:38 Was it foamer? That's what it was, foamer. Oh goodness gracious! So uh... Let's try again. OH MY GOD!!! WOOO!!! LISTEN TO THAT HORN!! Ed did you see how many cars the Zephyr had and why is it going by on Sunday?! It's not supposed to go by at this time No they-they go 7 days a week Yeah but its late, really late What happened I don't know. Unfortunately, they couldn't count the cars because there's a big... They put up a big apartment building near the tracks that muffles the sound but it doesn't give you a view. What? They have blocked your view of the tracks?! Yeah! Most people by the way would be super happy about this. Oh finally! I don't hear that blasted train every single night. Not me! John is disappointed. I can't hear the train!!

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Food Dyes, General Mills Trix Controversy

A retrospective on General Mills' attempt to remove artificial dyes from Trix cereal reveals that consumers rejected the "boring" natural colors, forcing the company to revert to synthetic dyes. The discussion covers how brands like Kraft and Mars use different ingredients in Europe versus the U.S. due to regulation and consumer perception. The hosts recall historical marketing tactics, such as putting towels or toys inside product packaging.

general mills· trix· food dyes· kraft mac & cheese· m&ms· marketing· consumer demand

57:25 So since we're talking about Kennedy a little bit and then this health situation, I have a couple of clips on food dyes. And I thought this was an interesting...this is some NPR and this was a good counter argument for the food dyes. Why isn't everybody else in the world they have? They've taken these artificial flashy dyes out of the cereals but But they have a, our people have a real good excuse. It's the dumb public now that they're blaming the dumb public for this whole thing. This is I thought was a fascinating series of clips. The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks. This morning, a big announcement from a cereal giant. Silly rabbit chasing for kids!

58:08 10 years ago, General Mills made a splash saying it would remove artificial dyes from cereal and it released tricks colored naturally with fruits and vegetables. And many shoppers hated the idea of using artificial dyes for their products. hated it. They complained on social media and the news that the new tricks looked sad and boring, and General Mills capitulated. They actually put the food dyes, the synthetic dyes back into the trick cereal formula Thomas Galligan is with The Center for Science in the Public Interest It advocates against synthetic dyes over health concerns particularly in children And this is really a problem because General Mills framed this as a consumer demand issue This is what consumers want

58:48 And it set the tone. So when Kellogg later dyed Fruit Loops with spices and juices, it was for Canada but not the U.S.. M&M's maker Mars phased out artificial colors in Europe but not the US. The all-American Kraft Mac & Cheese removed chemical dyes stealthily. It's still neon yellow but naturally boasting in the ads... Moms didn't notice! Kids didn't notice! Neither did dogs Kellogg and Mars would say Americans really love bright colors. And data suggests it's true. People think food tastes better if it is brightly colored, period end of story! Marion Nessel is a public health nutritionist who has tracked research on food dyes. Brighter colors are perceived as tasting better whether the taste changes or not Oh yeah well that's true Just walk through any American supermarket It's like walking through a carnival

59:45 It used to be we are happy with a toy inside it was a spinning top Made of plastic. I remember the spinning top and the Cracker Jacks Well not even the Cracker Jacks, but you had it in cornflakes, Rice Krispies... They used to put toys in all kinds of foods In fact if we went back far enough And this is going way back They used to put towels in a box of detergent Yes! yes, I remember that sure

1:00:25 So you buy a box of detergent, you get a free towel. And I also remember the... I forget what product it was but my mom always bought and I would say Mom buy that! It was like some cleaning product and it came with a sponge but the sponge was like the size of a postage stamp. The minute he added water to it, it expanded all the way till- Oh they have one of those compressed sponges? Yeah yeah yeah. I'm like Mom buy one of those. It was a great marketing tool But yes, yeah of course. Do they still put... I think they probably stopped putting the toys in because it would go into cereal and kids would try to eat the toy. Because kids are dumb! Generally yeah but yes i think this is well known and just look at all of the fake meat and all that stuff that they're putting together It has all kinds of coloring and taste added And then I'm talking about the nutritional value of this junk

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History of Food Coloring, Sam's Club Ingredient Pledge

The history of food dyeing is traced back to railroads and competition between Florida and California orange farmers. Walmart's Sam's Club has pledged to remove artificial dyes and high fructose corn syrup from its private labels, though developers struggle to replicate vivid colors using natural sources like beets and algae. The hosts discuss the psychological impact of food color on perceived taste and the difficulty of masking savory flavors in natural dyes.

sam's club· walmart· turmeric· spirulina· annatto· food history· blue raspberry

1:01:20 I remember my dad used to say, you're eating cardboard. He would always say that you're eating cardboard. My parents said cardboard too. Oh boomer! It tastes a lot like cardboard. Okay here's the second version of the second clip But is it our nature or is it marketing? Think about your force of habit, especially for childhood snacks. Of course children tend to love brighter colors so they get advertised to and when they grow up it's hard to let go that memory Food dyeing goes back centuries. Think dairy farmers adding spices to make cheese look more yellow. Food historian I. Hasano says railroads made an impact when Florida farmers had to compete with California farmers, they started dying their oranges to be more orange

1:02:11 Along came processed foods. When butter had to compete with margarine, it became a richer yellow. Over time Hisano says colorful advertising and the modern supermarket trained us what to expect. Like say strawberry candies or strawberry drinks they don't look like real strawberry color but people we kind of learn to understand And learn to recognize even science fiction-y flavors and colors like blue raspberry Now we're at a new turning point. The Trump administration's health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is pushing companies to get rid of synthetic dyes and major brands are agreeing even M&M'S is once again willing to try a naturally colored version

1:02:56 The irony is that without artificial color, many snacks and cereals look well obviously processed. And natural dyes can be finicky. Color has been a challenge for us Nick Scheidler leads product development at Walmart's Sam's Club which in 2022 pledged that by the end of this year it would remove dozens of ingredients from its private brand members mark That includes high fructose corn syrup some preservatives and artificial dyes The latter proved the trickiest. Well, at least the conversation's out there I guess that's kind of good people are talking about it shouldn't give you kids this crap at all in the morning what did you feed your kids when they were young? Fruit loops no I doubt it oatmeal yeah exactly eggs how about bacon and eggs is always a winner stack of pancakes pancakes is good french toast

1:03:58 French toast, yep. With bacon? No usually not but with maple syrup the real deal The real deal yeah the real deal gets them all jacked up ready for school I'm ready dad drive me to school Maple syrup is actually pretty sweet it's sweeter than you'd think I know it is Here is the part three. Yeah, so some of the things we saw were the colors actually were muted and they got continuously lighter over time. Some replacements are tried-and-true turmeric makes things yellow beets red a seed called annatto orange and blue can come from spirulina which is algae

1:04:34 But then you add these savory dyes to sweets, and you've gotta find a way to mask their flavors. In some cases too it wasn't holding the color as long. Scheidler says the final frontiers for his team? One is sports drinks in colors to rival Gatorade. The other is icing for cupcakes and cookies bright like crayons. And I kept wondering why bother? Why can't cupcakes just be less vivid? Shidler says Sam's Club kept asking its shoppers about this. The visual appearance is still something very important that they've told us nature or nurture shoppers said they did not want a gray murky soda or a dusty looking sweet treat I lean I say look and PR news thank you was lieutenant Uhura signing off sorry but now I was just making fun of her name so the

1:05:28 So I don't see why anyone's buying cupcakes from this Sam's Club bakery, but okay. And by the way one of the worst bakeries is Whole Foods Man, I haven't been to a Whole Foods in years we don't have one out here so I haven't been there you got lucky yeah We don't really eat any baked goods we don't get any sweets I can't have them in the house Tina's an addict What? She's an addict if I bring something like M&Ms That bag will be gone in 30 minutes. Well, 30 minutes? That's a while! What like one of those huge bags? Not like a little bag... Like one of those big bags There is nothing sweet in our house No She says it herself Oh I thought she was sweet Oh that's so nice of you to say Ready for a pivot? Yeah let's pivot I'm going to pivot to the tariffs because well

CHAPTER 21 / 53 Discussion

De Minimis Exemption, International Shipping Scams

The U.S. has ended the $800 duty-free "de minimis" exemption for international parcels, leading to increased paperwork and higher costs for consumers. A listener reports paying nearly double the price for a Chinese joystick part due to new tariffs and fees. The hosts also warn of Instagram scams where sellers claim to be going out of business to lure buyers into purchasing low-quality goods from China.

de minimis· temu· china· tariffs· customs· instagram scams· shipping

1:12:14 Oh, I can't get my vape. I can't get the flavor I want." And this was kind of interesting coming back to the de minimis As we know, as we discussed on I think the last episode you used to be able to ship up to $800 worth of stuff tax-free which is how all this Timu and all these things. You know the clothes... Which by the way are like 30 bucks so i'm not quite sure unless you ship it in one box And by the way Is this just self declared? How much is this worth? It could be a diamond in there! Ah 20 bucks

1:12:50 Well, it turns out that with this de minimis it's not just about the amount but now people actually have to file paperwork. They're leaving disappointed. My loved ones were expecting some presents I wanted to send them things like a little shawl, something made in Mexico Now i can't...I already bought it but I can't get it to them The postal services of dozens of countries have done the same French Danish Spanish Russian Indian British Taiwanese Belgian German and Italian to name a few But why now?

1:13:36 On Friday, the United States ended duty-free imports for all parcels worth less than $800— an exemption known as de minimis. President Donald Trump's administration promises the move will be permanent and postal services hope the resulting logistics headaches are temporary. One certainty is there'll be more paperwork for sellers and higher prices for buy-its The US government already eliminated the exemption from goods from China at the start of May, and says it has collected almost half a billion dollars from the new tax since then The idea behind the expanded policy is to tackle low-cost direct to consumer imports and boost American manufacturing and retail. Yep, it'll boost our plastic crap we should start making it I don't understand why this is such a big deal in the olden days you used to get stuff from overseas and had a little tag on it with the value and then you paid the tariff at the post office Yes

1:14:36 But I guess that, well we know that went away. A couple of Republicans attacked it up to 800. So now nobody can do anything? Well how are we going to do it? It's so confusing! Yes...I don't know, its beyond me! I can't write this little ticket up and stick on the envelope?! Here, I don't understand this. This is from Sir Gene who was listening live in real time. Recently had to get a part for a joystick from China which by the way is already your problem Sir Gene Did you break your joystick? That's what he used it for. Yes, the part was $84 which would fit in the De Minimis. The shipping...

1:15:19 Now, the shipper has to collect the tariffs of $46 when it came into the US. I was notified that I owed $56 in order for them to deliver it so the total price on an 84 dollar part came to 180. I don't understand! It's under a hundred dollars or someone is ripping you off? Or is this just pure... the pure tariff? No, I mean de minimis is no tariffs am I misunderstanding? My understanding is yes, no. I mean you're... Yes? No! Yes?! No! Yes and yes and no and no and yes and maybe... No, no! Uhh.. I thought it was $100 they changed it to from 800 to 100 Yeah So anything that which was why Shimu and Timu and Seamus and Damus all the rest of these operations These guys are sending me two or three emails a day

1:16:12 And I keep looking at going. I could just block these there's no problem in my mailing I just put a thing and but I keep for some reason I let it happen hoping is some real good deal shows up I guess, I don't know why I'm allowing this But they're constantly they want you to buy cheap lots of little packages idea yeah, that's the whole point my understanding is you can buy $1,080 packages and it all comes through free. That's what I thought too so I think Gene you're getting ripped off by somebody So somethings amiss Yeah It doesn't make any sense Tina fell for a good one the other day She was on Instagram

1:16:52 And she's you know these two people and their whole account was like they have to shut down their store They can't make it anymore, and they just you know. They're just selling nice clothes You know skirts and stuff There was a husband or wife, and you know they were really sad and Tina is like oh You know I'll buy some stuff from them so she puts in an order on like 150 bucks And then she gets a confirmation from China and then, you know... And then she sees the actual product shots. It's all crap! It's like $3 skirts from China and these people were just scamming her Like oh we're so... We have to go out of business it was not true it was a lie Lies on the internet! And now that..and she's like cancel my order Stop! The press is... I know she said cancel my order No we can't it's already done its coming from China

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Trump Health Rumors, Alex Jones Predictions

Rumors regarding President Trump's declining health circulated over the weekend, fueled by a clip of Alex Jones predicting a "health collapse" within 12 months. The hosts critique the "Midas Touch" and "iHip News" YouTube channels for their aggressive "hater" rhetoric and "putty-faced" presenters. They dismiss the rumors as baseless, noting Trump's recent public appearances in a golf cart with his granddaughter.

donald trump· alex jones· midas touch· health· dementia· youtube· rumors

1:17:43 You'll have to send it back to China. Give me a break. Well, that'll be the last time that happens to her Oh yeah No Yeah because I'm gonna make better for him for a long time and make fun of her about it That's what scammers do they so they scammed their business So so so I met the dinner table and then its brought up by JC and Jesse both that Trumps dying I heard this no in fact there was a rumor this weekend that he was already dead and Yeah, there's that one too. That's on top of it. Until he came out in the golf cart with his granddaughter and started riding around so he is dying from what?

1:18:23 Well, I have the clip. Oh This is the Trump now this this is a clip. This is a combo clip This is from those those two putty-faced women that do this I hip News or whatever it's called they say horrible look putty face Yeah One of them looks like her faces mate she looks like Odo in deep space nine She's got no She has no features on her face. Literally. And so they call her Putty Face and she's a Trump hater, and there is no such thing as President Trump it's the Felon President Trump!

1:19:00 So they report on it and they bring in, I think the progenitor of the whole thing which i believe to be Alex Jones. Oh! I have to watch this now... The first comment on their YouTube He wasn't shot he didn't win he's going to hell. I'll have to watch this you're right there putty face A little bit of eye makeup wouldn't hurt. Just for video, I mean, I don't care how you look but... Alright so this is all from Alex Jones? Surprise! This is from the iHip they referenced the Alex Jones and bring in Alex- They do a clip, they do a clip. McTaco Tits The Convicted Felon President What did she say? Taco Tits?! McTaco Tits What is that!?

1:19:46 I don't know, that's what she calls him. McTaco tits the convicted felon president. Oh, that's our president! Okay points for that one. McTaco tits the convicted felon President of The United States health is in a rapid rapid decline there is a massive cover-up going on at The White House regarding this but the right wing is starting to figure it out and Alex Jones conspiracy theorist absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it. Kylie pop up this head. That's what that's what one of our producers wants me to talk like that, is exactly they want to hear. Yeah, that's right! Piece of shit okay sure. The conspiracy theorist absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it. Kylie pop-up this headline we have a crisis Alex Jones warns that Trump is headed for health

1:20:42 collapse, a health collapse. Kylie now play the clip. You can see him declining faster and faster it's not super bad yet but unlike Biden that was completely shot and had all these brain surgeries the rest of it Trump has got great genetics he's tough and if he takes care of himself he can make it through these years and then after but if he doesn't he's gonna have I predict Trump is going to have some type of collapse for the next 12 months at the current trajectory. I'm not saying he's gonna... All right, deep in the heart of MAGA and he's giving Kanks who i'm going to refer to him as instead of Kangles McTaco Tits for expediency and efficiency He's giving Kanks twelve months, twelve months to live Alex Jones Well here's the thing he says a couple things that are just really odd It's not that bad yet

1:21:38 Alex, it's terrible. His ankles are as big as my head. He's got bruises on his palm from what I think they're giving him IVs and then he says he has great genes let's not forget his father died of dementia and Alzheimer's this man's genes tell us exactly where he said it in my opinion and I'm not a doctor. That is pretty good Those women and that, what's that other podcast we talk about every once in a while? Midas Effect. Midas Touch. I thought it was Midas Effect.

1:22:18 I thought it was Midas, whatever it is. It's Midas something this guy's named Midas and that guy who's just as bad as these two putty-faced women... Putty faced? Just cannot they're such unbelievable haters It's just I don't think it does the public any good at all to listen to people like this. Well, on that note... Hold on, running down Putty Face for some reason and just kind of like it you're right is the Midas Touch podcast here right? Alex Jones also breaking breaking news! I didn't clip him You know oh yeah here we go The whole network everybody was all over his guys were all over

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Minneapolis Shooter Identity, CIA Contractor Debunking

A producer provides a "boots on the ground" report debunking claims that the father of the Minneapolis trans shooter was a CIA analyst. The source, who worked with the father for 20 years, describes him as a talented coder and normal family man prior to a 2013 divorce. This segment aims to clarify misinformation circulating on X regarding the family's ties to the intelligence community.

minneapolis· robin westman· cia· geospatial industry· trans shooter· coding· divorce

1:23:02 Oh, his dad was a spook. Deep state! Deep state! This is all set up... And we're talking about the Minneapolis shooter? the trans shooter. Yeah, deep state, how many times? How many times? Geospatial industry! Yep that's it. I don't get the geospatial thing with... CIA they work for the CIA! So we of course have to be- We are the best podcasting universe not because of Adam and John but because of our producers And here's what came in. Adam, I worked with Robert Robin Westman's dad Jim Westman for 20 years you were wondering where the parents work

1:23:45 Up until 2014. They got divorced in 2013, their son would have been 11 at the time I don't know for sure but i think the mother had custody of the kids after the divorce I think I saw the kid at work...at a work event or something when he was 7 or 8 But don't remember anything unusual just a normal little boy at that time Jim That's uh this shooter's dad is a dude named Ben And a very good coder. I see people on X claiming he was a CIA analyst or CIA contractor, I can assure you this is complete nonsense! I have some friends that are still in contact with him but i haven't talked to any of them about the situation since it's so hot right now and of course he wants me to keep him anonymous He's a knight, uh...I know who he is and uh...i believe his story to be true

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Media Coverage of Trans Shooters, Mental Health Patterns

The hosts analyze the mainstream media's reluctance to discuss the transgender identity of recent mass shooters, contrasting it with the quick labeling of white supremacist motives in other cases. They argue that there is a pattern related to mental illness and pharmaceutical side effects that is being ignored in favor of protecting the "trans community." The segment critiques the Minneapolis mayor's plea to stop "villainizing" the community following the shooting.

trans community· minneapolis· mass shooting· motive· pharmaceutical drugs· media bias· gun control

1:24:36 So, sorry to debunk that. However... however-however-however The M5M cannot get past the trans part because look There's patterns, there's patterns. But we don't know the motive! We have no idea- There's patterns but we don't know the motive! You have mass shooting investigations so often there is a pattern I think police are trying to get after that tonight you see obviously some real clues here as to what a motive could be but they're not saying formally what it is yet. We don't have a motive at this time It's unclear what the motive was Again, there's just nothing specific

1:25:13 in the evidence that's been recovered. There is no information, nothing specific to identify a specific motive but they'll be continuing to talk to people to see if there was a flag if something may have popped up that they can look into. a revenge shooting because there were prior affiliations to the school. Is this notoriety? The shooter identified, we are told as female legally changed their name from Robert to Robin There's no connection yet from that to the motive I don't believe that how the shooter identifies currently in this investigation right now is of significant importance The mayor also calling on people to quote stop villainizing the trans community

1:25:53 after learning that the suspect, who was born male identified as female. I spoke about this so profoundly and powerfully... I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community Anybody that is going to use this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community... Trans Community! ...jumped conclusions about the shooter right? What his ideological views might have been what his own personal situation was Did these people not watch the videos? Did they not read anything that this kid was doing? Oh, we don't know what the motive but for sure the motive isn't just because you're trans doesn't mean you're a killer. There's a pattern there and the pattern would have to be relatable to mental illness, to pharmaceutical drugs which we heard our very own

1:26:48 vaccine denier, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., say many of them come with black box warnings that say you might have suicidal ideations or homicidal ideations seems like a possible thing we could look at but no don't you dare talk about our trans community. Community! It's not a community where do they live? Well Minneapolis that's true it's a trans community No, no. Because in this case when it comes to this trans person we no longer view this person as a she as he wanted to be identified. No, no. We're just going to view

1:27:30 her as a him for convenience sake. I don't know why this has been a trend lately when it comes to shooters, but immediately you'll see a bunch of accounts online argue that it's a trans problem that the shooter was trans A lot of shootings happening all across the country from different demographics But a lot of the mass shootings are carried out by young white men They say demonic and then they transgender maniac shoots up Catholic school, you know they could very easily say time and time again straight white maniac shoots up a Catholic school. There's a lot of misinformation circulating right now this individual as far as we know did identify as transgender however as we look at the spectrum of mass casualty events in our nation's history there have been a range of motivations and range of

1:28:22 profiles that have been associated with mass casualty events. You look at the shooting in Charleston at a historically black church in 2015, that was perpetrated by white supremacist. Let's just be very real here we have too many guns in America. Yeah all right so when it behooves the mainstream media then the trans woman is a white man? It's unbelievable Unbelievable. Shocking! Yeah, I know very shocking shocking and then there's gambling going on here's the Minnesota acting Attorney General The shooter left behind hundreds of pages of writings Writings that describe the shooters plan Writings that describe the shooters mental state and more than anything writings that describe the shooters hate pure indiscriminate hate

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Shooter's Manifesto, Hate Groups and Political Targets

The Minnesota Attorney General revealed that the Minneapolis shooter left behind hundreds of pages of writings expressing "indiscriminate hate" toward Black, Mexican, Christian, and Jewish people. The shooter reportedly idolized notorious mass murderers and specifically targeted Donald Trump in the writings. The hosts criticize media figures like Rosie O'Donnell for mischaracterizing the shooter's political leanings as "MAGA."

manifesto· minneapolis· anders breivik· trump· rosie o'donnell· hate speech· christianity

1:29:23 The shooter expressed hate towards almost every group a manageable. The shooter expressed hate towards black people, the shooter expressed hate towards Mexican people, the shooter express hate towards Christian people, the shooter expressed hate towards Jewish people In short, the shooter appeared to hate all of us. The shooters heart was full of hate there appears to be only one group that the shooter didn't hate. Oh, I can't wait to hear what it was just one group only one group? One group of people who the shooter admired. The group were the school shooters and mass murderers that are notorious in this country. The shooter idolized some of the most notorious school shooters

1:30:18 mass murders in our country's history. I won't name them just like, I won't name the shooter they don't deserve to have their names remembered." That's what i mean it's like the whole rundown forgot to mention Anders Breivik who was not American and who killed a bunch of kids for political reasons. I think there is more obvious I would say thing left out of his lists that was more important than anything, which was he hated this. He hated that he hated Trump it said very specifically killed Trump and because leaving stuff like that out resulted in Rosie O'Donnell coming on her stupid thing saying the guy was MAGA

1:31:05 Do you have a clip? I'm not sure. No, but I wasn't clipping for this guy because I thought it was old news we already covered but I should have clipped it But that's what Rosie said dead dogs another mega guy killing people Which is you know, yeah cuz you leave that one thing out Yeah And you could maybe think that Rosie O'Donnell she back on the show somewhere and she has a show Yeah, her own. She has a she has her own posts on X Oh that's your show is it? That's your show She got the camera upper nose and just gotta She looks like that's not very good hell-baked over. It's not a very good show if you've got the camera upper noses Not a show man She sees an influencer

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AI Liability, ChatGPT Suicide Lawsuit

Attorneys General from Virginia and North Carolina are demanding that big tech companies strengthen protections for minors using AI chatbots. This follows a lawsuit from a California family claiming ChatGPT assisted their teenage son in planning his suicide. The hosts discuss the legal challenges of holding AI companies liable and speculate on potential federal legislation to protect the industry from such lawsuits.

openai· chatgpt· suicide· lawsuit· virginia· north carolina· ai regulation

1:31:56 Well, on the legal front we do have something changing. Rob constitutional lawyer and I called him out on last show haven't heard from him I'm worried because there is work to be done, my friend. Attorneys General of Virginia and North Carolina are part of a bipartisan coalition demanding big tech companies strengthen protections for minors exposed AI chat bots they sent a letter warning companies will be held accountable for any harm for their AI products that they cause including sexual conversations discussions of violence and deceptive interactions that lead to scams

1:32:34 This comes as a California family is suing OpenAI, claiming ChatGPT helped their teenage son plan suicide. This is what we need! This is the direction I can agree with. Hold them liable? There's no way they can't be held liable for this unless it's in the EULA which I'm sure it is Well even if it's... The EULA cannot uh there are still issues that the EULA cannot protect no matter what it says Unless you're a pharmaceutical company with vaccines. Well, that wasn't part of the... That's not part of EULA. That was a federal...that was a congressional act Yeah? There is a law that was passed Who says that won't be passed for AI Could be I would totally expect it If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised if I recall in the big beautiful bill

1:33:28 There's a provision in there that says states may not have any laws regarding artificial intelligence for the next 10 years, which I find rather odd. Not having any laws is one thing suing over something like this is something else that's different Well, everyone is up and arms about this AI stuff because of its smartness because how incredibly quickly it's going to take away all our jobs No! It's the beautiful people who are up and arms Retailer J.Crew faces some criticism now for what some are speculating are AI generated images promoting their brand These photos look just like the J.Crew ads of the past but they may not be real The website Blackbird Spy Plane pointed out some glitches in the clothing and photo distortions In a statement released to The Cut, J.Crew said it is exploring new forms of creative expression and experimenting with different art mediums

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J.Crew AI Models, Swedish PM Policy Research

Retailer J.Crew is facing criticism for using AI-generated images in its marketing, which critics argue displaces human models and photographers. Meanwhile, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristensen admitted to using AI tools like ChatGPT and LeChat to seek "second opinions" on policy decisions. The hosts discuss the broader implications of AI integration in both creative industries and government administration.

j.crew· ai models· sweden· ulf kristensen· chatgpt· lechat· labor market

1:34:25 Critics are concerned the AI models are just cutting out workers who would otherwise get paid. Oh no! What will beautiful people do? They're cutting out the workers, the workers, the models, The Beautiful Men at J Crew... what will they do? AI is going to put them on the streets They'll have to be turning tricks now. Yeah, they can go become plumbers. Electricians come on! They'd have the right look and the girls can always find work let's face it. Whoa. Hello? According to... by the way who was this Prime Minister? This was a Swedish prime minister Ulf Kristensen

1:35:16 admitted in an interview with the Swedish business paper Dagens Industri that he frequently uses AI tools such as chatGBT and LeChat. Where is LeChat? I want LeChat to seek second opinions on policy decisions! Before proposing or enacting a new policy, Christensen asks LeChat questions like what have others done should we think the complete opposite Adding that the PM also uses AI platforms to conduct research and bounce ideas around. Well, that sounds good! I don't know if there's anything like these lawyers who use it and they come up with phony cases... Of course! ...that don't exist?

1:36:04 But it doesn't matter because this thing is just gonna keep on going. There's no AI winter coming, nope! Bloomberg surveillance podcast says good times ahead! So from 43 billion to 7, almost 800 billion dollars in 6 years. What do you think? Possible? Well the problem is that it's

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AI Investment Returns, Agentic AI Squared

Financial analysts on Bloomberg discuss the massive increase in AI investment, projecting a shift from $43 billion to nearly $800 billion in six years. Despite concerns about the lack of immediate returns, tech CEOs argue that under-investing is a greater risk than over-investing. The concept of "AI squared"—AI programming itself—is introduced as the next phase of the technology cycle.

ai· bloomberg· alphabet· meta· microsoft· capex· enterprise ai

1:36:45 It'll cost five trillion to make it, but that may be the revenue. Is this market underpriced? Look, that's the way we look at it. I mean you know we are in the very early stages of this AI cycle. A lot of things that sort of matter to driving growth are about to clear in growth's favor, the bottlenecks that we've seen and capacity constraints, the model development advances that we're seeing particularly around agentic AI and then of course you know their biggest of those being what we think could be called AI squared, the idea that AI on its own can start programming AI

1:37:29 That's what I'm looking for a I squared notice also yes What that's not gonna happen? Oh, that's what's coming is gonna be like those those boxing robots Rock'em sock'em robots. No the ones that Chinese have bit they're having matches videos Yeah I mean you can kick that robot's ass in a second. Like boom! They suck The idea that AI on its own can start programming AI... I noticed also yesterday that an analyst from eMarketer said we have to see returns on these investments and soon, And the threat is these big hyperscalers may pull back on the margin in terms of CapEx if they don't start to see return soon On the applications-on the AI applications

1:38:18 that they're powering. What do you think about that? Look, I don't think there's any chance of that right right right i mean we go back a year ago and you had the CEOs at Alphabet Meta Microsoft all get on their earnings calls and say some version of the risk of over investing is far less than the risk of under investing in this space And then we fast forward a year later and they've all said, you know what? Even though we believe that we actually underinvested in capacity constraints are still there. And so you don't see that kind of demand outstripping supply if the returns aren't there. IDC has had one that said their CFO or CEOs are getting three point seven X for every dollar they put into A.I.. And the returns admittedly, their early returns but the early return show that this stuff

1:39:08 is working at the enterprise level. It's working at the enterprise level, John! it's all good. The enterprises into it... The enterprise is being... Wait a minute... How are you getting 3.7 times per dollar? Give me... So they're getting three dollars and seventy cents for every dollar they invest? Where's the evidence of this? There's no evidence of it none This thing is a scam. It's great, this pattern matching is great! I love code...I coded Python and I figured it out you gotta have three different... I want LeChat but I use Grok, I use ChatGPT, I wanna use LeChat

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AI Model Costs, Local GPU Limitations

A host describes the experience of running AI models locally, noting that it is extremely slow compared to cloud-based services like ChatGPT. They argue that the current $20-a-month subscription model is unsustainable given the high compute costs, suggesting users are essentially being subsidized by the companies. The discussion dismisses the imminent arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) as marketing hype.

chatgpt· grok· python· stack overflow· gpu· agi· asi

1:39:50 And you post... You know, for a guy who thinks this is a scam and it's dead end and piece of crap. You are all in! Let me explain I am all in because, I know what this costs. And while it's still cheap... So you're all in because you're taking advantage? You think they are shipping a $5 bill for every hour you spend? In other words there is... For all practical purposes they are sending you money the more you use it! Correct! I love that part Now you really have to know what you're doing to get anything functional out of it, but even in the past couple days the network disconnects on Chad TPT and Grok are very frequent.

1:40:36 And it just sits there and says, oh the network is disconnected. But my internet didn't disconnect so I don't know what your disconnect is but they throw up this disconnect. Look, I run web UI. I can run these models at home takes forever! Takes forever!! You get the answers out of it, but it's... And it's just matching. I mean, I'm asking things that people have programmed a million times over and it sucked it all up into the internet in Python code like oh here is the code this how you do it This someone some other doofus did this It does that very well Now it saves me the trip to stack overflow

1:41:16 But not when I'm trying to run a model at home. No, so might as well run this really quick model while it's still costing me 20 bucks a month There's no way this condition can sustain itself No, there's no way and it's certainly not thinking Well did nobody ever said it was oh we're so close to super intelligence It'll be CHATCPT6, that will be the model when it's so- we're so close to AGI. ASI is next. Oh! It's happening. It's not

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Indonesia Protests, Mexico Missing Persons March

Protesters in Indonesia stormed the homes of politicians following a controversial salary increase for parliament members during a cost-of-living crisis. In Mexico, thousands marched to mark the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances, calling on President Sheinbaum to address the 130,000 missing persons linked to drug cartels. These international reports highlight widespread civil unrest and government accountability issues.

indonesia· jakarta· prabowo subianto· mexico city· enforced disappearances· drug cartels· protests

1:41:53 But the chatbots, chatbots. Oh yeah that's the business right there make those cheap and you're in You'll be sued but make those cheap it'll be worth it Hopefully he will be sued that will change everything So I got some international news which we never play enough of on this show Okay Or I got TikTok clips International news please I'll take international news for 500 Alex Oh, Indonesia mess. Oh yeah! Let me see... Yes I have heard about this friend of mine is on his way to Indonesia actually. Protesters in Indonesia have stormed the homes of several politicians including the country's finance minister and looted luxury items there've been widespread demonstrations across the country after lawmakers increased their salaries despite a cost-of-living crisis Asadestra Adjengrastri reports from Jakarta

1:42:42 This week is a fragile one for Indonesia. What began as the protest against the additional $3,000 housing allowance for parliament members has now escalated into demonstrations against police brutality The unrest prompted President Prabowo Subianto to cancel a scheduled trip to China To personally monitor the situation With protests now entering nearly a week many people described the atmosphere in Jakarta and other cities as tense fearing further clashes between police and the public. Hmm, yeah. So they're raiding the parliament members' houses and stealing their stuff? Yeah! That's how you do it! Teach him a lesson... Gets people's attention Okay now we got a Mexico mess Oh man another mess Thousands of people have held protests across Mexico to mark the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances

1:43:41 Relatives and friends of missing people, as well as human rights activists have marched through the streets of Mexico City, Guadalajara, Córdoba and other cities calling for justice and government action. More than 130 thousand people are reported as missing in Mexico Esperanza Chavez has been searching for her brother Miguel for more than a decade. It's remembering our family member, whom we must remember every day but today is the most important one for those of us who have missing loved ones What I would ask from the government and especially President Shanebaum is that they find them! I have been searching for my brother since 2014

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Millennial Trauma, Generational Pity Parties

A "millennial mom" producer's report on generational trauma leads to a debate about whether millennials are uniquely "screwed" by history. The hosts compare millennial struggles like the 2008 housing crisis and COVID-19 to the Vietnam War, 20% interest rates, and the Great Depression faced by previous generations. They conclude that every generation faces significant trauma and criticize the "pity party" mentality.

millennials· 9/11· financial crisis· vietnam war· interest rates· gen alpha· trauma

1:44:25 Most of the disappearances are links to the country's notorious drug cartels which often target the young and vulnerable. Yeah, you know we also have coming up is September 11th will have another I'm sure everyone's already putting their packages together To traumatize the American people all over again Which is actually they know that I got a note from a millennial mom boots on the ground And it was quite interesting because she said, I want to give you my boots on the ground report as a millennial mom. And and she is...I've heard this before like we got screwed basically. You know? We all saw 9-11. We got traumatized by it

1:45:20 Then, you know we had the financial crisis. The housing crisis we got psyoped into going into debt and getting worthless degrees We're told would make $150,000 and then COVID And I'm like yeah well doesn't every generation have its horrible...I mean I remember the Vietnam War my friend's brothers, older brothers coming home in boxes. I remember 14% interest rate. I remember gas lines... Not to 20%. Yes! 20%, can you imagine? For a house, 20%. Yeah. Every generation goes through its incredible trauma You also saw the rise of the internet online porn come on now, you can't complain about everything

1:46:21 A lot of good things happened in your time, but it seems like there's a pity party going on for themselves. Pity party? Pity party yeah And I mean how about think of now you're a little bit older than I am so you do cross into true boomer territory. I'm a true boomer, yeah So...I'm not like on the cusp. So what kind of I mean your parents went through World War II Not a little thing and the depression The real depression not the Great Recession but the real depression

1:46:57 Yeah, they were in the depression and World War II. So what else? I mean let's just line them up because...I'm sorry that's life! And somehow it feels to me like the Millennials are saying we got screwed not like anybody else but that's not true. Your sympathy for this woman is has no bounds Well on the other hand you know Matt from Martel Hardware yeah now he's a millennial He says Our kid's an alpha, a gen-alpha. Yeah he's got an alpha We've got it all covered by the alphas but the alphas are just little kids yeah but listen to this we enrolled our generation Alpha son into an SAT prep course this summer The first thing you said to me when I picked him up after that first session was Dad! I need a wristwatch

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UK Accounting Students, Basic Calendar Knowledge

A teacher at an international school in Cambridge reports that 16-to-18-year-old accounting students increasingly struggle with basic knowledge, such as the number of weeks or days in a year. This lack of foundational understanding complicates accounting operations like depreciation and accruals. The hosts express concern for the future of the profession if students cannot perform simple calendar-based calculations.

cambridge· uk· accounting· education· calendar· weeks in a year· bookkeeping

1:47:51 How about that? A real one. Matt says, I ran upstairs pulled my old Victorinox Swiss Army watch out of a drawer and my son is now wearing this reading clock happily. It's good! But think we did...I think we helped out somehow. I hope so yeah The months of the year, turns out that's not just the US. That's also in the UK according to Baron of Milford in Staffordshire England Commodore of the NOAA agenda Navy no agenda doctor of education and climate change science graduate of the class of 2024 so you know that guy is legit. And I see he was

1:48:40 He was teaching A-level accounting, 16 to 18 year old students at a very good international school in Cambridge between 2019 and 2024. Knowing the months of the year in accounting is crucial! for calculation, deprecation. I would think accruals and prepayments and is a skill that is tested often in exams from A-level to professional exams in bookkeeping financial accounting management accounting financial management papers students at the school struggled with calculating the number of months to use in an accounting operation and frequently got the answers wrong

1:49:18 At first I thought it was a language issue and my lack of direction as a relatively new teacher. But as the years went by, it got worse and worse and laterally students could not even tell you how many weeks there were in a year or how many days in a year! I had to constantly drill them to get this right in an almost comical fashion as i would with very young primary school students. Fellow teachers of the subject told me that it was the same across the UK and state schools which does not give me hope for the future or the profession that I've been a part of for 40 years don't even know how many weeks there are in a year wow

1:49:56 It's just a number, 52 people. 52! It's easy to remember you're a kid it's the number 52. It's not hard I guess it's like a dozen How many cards in a deck of cards? 52. That's right, that's right! Well actually there is usually a couple of jokers in there too but... Remember the game? The 52 card pickup? That was always good one. Yeah of course everybody remembers that game. It wasn't a game. No it was not a game. Okay last international clip you know they talk about everyone oh this free Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine where in the world is the big real problem that's the massive

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Sudan Civil War, Parallel Government Formation

The leader of Sudan's Paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF), Mohammed Hamdan Daggalo, has been sworn in as the head of a new parallel government. This move signals a formal partition of the country, which is currently experiencing the world's largest humanitarian crisis and famine. The hosts discuss the use of Russian, Chinese, and UAE-manufactured weapons in the conflict.

sudan· darfur· rsf· mohammed hamdan daggalo· genocide· famine· uae

1:50:37 famine, murder, killings. Oh let me guess somewhere in Africa? Yeah, Sudan! The head of a paramilitary group in a civil war with Sudan's army has been sworn in as the head of a new parallel government they said in a statement. The parallel administration has been condemned by the US and others NPR's Emmanuel Akinduwa reports the move pushes the country closer towards a formal partition after two years of a war Mohammed Hamdan Daggalo, the leader of the Paramilitary Rapid Support Forces was sworn-in as the head of a parallel government the new parallel administration said in a statement. The RSF leader, who has rarely been seen in Sudan since the war started was sworn-in in the Sudanese city of Nyala, the statement said and he leads a group that includes armed groups and allied civilian figures The announcement comes amid intense fighting in Sudan which is suffering the world's largest humanitarian crisis and largest famine in decades. The Sudanese army have largely taken control of northern central and eastern Sudan

1:51:35 while the RSF remains mostly in control of the western region of Darfur, where it's widely accused of committing another genocide against African ethnic groups. Emmanuel Akinwotu, NPR News, Lagos So what weapons do you think are being used in this Sudan war? I don't know... I'm just gonna guess! I'm just gonna guess its US weapons Well I think there probably a lot of Russian weapons too AK-47s are better than our stuff Well, they're certainly built to last. Let me see if I can find out... Yeah it's a more practical product. Let me see what are they using? Okay AKs They are using a lot of Russian stuff some Chinese stuff UAE The UAE makes stuff? I guess why not is a good business Interesting

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No Agenda Baby, Show Outro Banter

The hosts announce that a listener has named their baby "Mimi" after the show's terminology, though they joke about the lack of recognition for the hosts' own names. They reflect on the show's 18-year history and the upcoming Labor Day holiday. The segment transitions into the show's administrative and donation-focused portion.

mimi· baby names· labor day· value-for-value· podcasting

1:52:40 By the way, I want to mention something. I can't find the note that was looking for it so i can give credit to the person but we finally had a baby named after the show No! And you lost the note? I'll get the note and read in the next show What is the kid's name? Mimi That's it? Mimi? Mimi. They used the name Mimi, they use Mimi's name instead of whatever you want to call her I worked my butt off for 18 years and they named the kid Mimi?! Yeah! You did Well now... Okay.. I was waiting for like the second and third name Like Mimi John Adam Mimi something something Mimi Mimi Mimi Oh well

1:53:25 Yeah, isn't that ironic? The next kid will be named Jay. With that I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the C in the colored fruit loop say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only Mr John Cena! Not bad for a Labor Day weekend, 1973. Still a little on the low side but not as low as I thought it would be that's pretty good

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Las Vegas Real Estate, Vici Capital Leasebacks

The real estate in Las Vegas has largely been acquired by Vici Properties, a real estate investment trust that leases casinos back to operators like MGM and Caesars. The hosts warn that these leaseback deals often lead to financial meltdowns when rates are raised, as seen with historic retailers in San Francisco. They also discuss the high profitability of "The Sphere" and its residency with Dead & Company.

las vegas· vici properties· mgm· caesars· leaseback· the sphere· john mayer

1:54:08 And people are traveling. Yes, although they many less travelers than expected I heard from AAA. So yeah, yes gasoline prices are down so why travel and if people are having staycations? Staycations Yeah the old staycation yeah and they've got low tea so you know that there turn out to be these tourist places like in there's nothing but complaining going on haven't been to Vegas for since COVID apparently no one has Well, they've got the prices jacked to the max. The old buck 99 steak breakfast is long gone and everything's like 50 bucks. The buffet all you can eat? Yeah. So everything's jacked up. They've jacked up all their prices so I looked into it a little bit because I was listening to all of the complaining going on and the whole town has been taken over by investment company called Vici, V-I-C-I, you can look it

1:55:03 And everything's been, except for Wynn and maybe one other operation. The entire city every one of the casinos including MGM and Caesars and everybody else has been bought up by this one company and everything is on a lease back. Veche Capital Cleveland based family office dedicated to generating sustainable wealth and preserving it for the future of themselves are experienced... It doesn't say that so they as private equity to private equity and they've bought up everything. It's all leaseback, which I don't know about you but every time I've seen leaseback as examples of that like in San Francisco, a couple famous stores, Gumps was one of them very famous jewelry and trinket shop in San Francisco for high-end goods. They did one of these leaseback deals they said well yeah we can buy your company

1:56:00 and then you can lease it back, it'll save you all this money and you have this cash flow. And it's all a positive thing and you have money in the bank and you have working capital and we own the company now but you get to lease it back so you're still in business. Then what happens is that the leaseback company says We're gonna raise your rates. Oh, we're gonna do this or we're gonna next thing you know You are completely out of business I mean this is Vegas is just headed for a complete meltdown disaster All the more reason not to go to Vegas except for the if there's something at the sphere the sphere Gotta go see the dead at the sphere man. Do you know they have a permanent? Residency it seems that the spear the dead oh

1:56:48 With John Mayer. Oh yeah, oh the ladies love John Mayer at The Sphere. Well they're gonna have to take forever to pay that thing off. The Sphere? That thing's... And it costs like a couple billion to build. That thing is making money hand over foot! I mean people are especially for the Dead Show they're paying up to $1,000 bucks Yeah, exactly. I don't know if anyone realized it but Jerry Garcia is dead. I know but John Mayer is there and all the ladies love John Mayer Anyway the trolls are not in Vegas they're not in the sphere They're in The Troll Room And now used to say trollroom.io But I got excoriated for it so I'll say NoAgendaStream.com everybody You can just go to NoAgendaStream.com Or you can listen on a modern podcast app

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No Agenda Art, AI Prompt Jockeys

A discussion on show artwork highlights the shift from human artists to "prompt jockeys" using AI tools. The hosts debate the quality of recent submissions, including a controversial "Keep Calm and Blame the Jews" piece that was vetoed for the main cover. They critique the "orangey" aesthetic of AI-generated images and the difficulty of prompting specific details like removing unwanted figures from a scene.

ai art· midjourney· prompt jockey· yoramore· scaramanga· veto· palestine

1:59:05 And we used to have artists who really worked very hard on creating artwork for the show. Now, we have prompt jockeys who are basically doing what anybody can do. All these still have a good idea... That's not true! What you mean it is not true? You have to know what your doing. That's what I said, you have to know what your doing I said, anybody can do it. You have to know what you're doing anyway that was very discouraged by the art for 1794 we titled heroin hotties people found that very interesting although some people did look at the art and go ah i can't wait to hear what you guys are talking about this was the clueless kids looking at the calendar

1:59:47 Mixed up calendar. Digital 2112 man, now the problem I have is... No it was Jeffrey Rea. I thought it was 2112 man? Was it Jeffrey Rea did I get that wrong? Oh well I'll have to change the credits sorry you're right it's Jeffrey Rea I'm sorry Jeffrey I'll change that but everything as a cartoon now everything's a cartoon and all has too much orange in it This is not a very orangey piece. It's got a lot of blue in it. It's a cartoon, just another cartoon You hate cartoons you don't like the... I'd rather take the photo realistic stuff except like here we get Scaramanga who does great babes but this who cares? There are just some babes that's not a No Agenda art its just babes okay everything is either a cartoon or drawing with orange

2:00:38 It's just, it's... model collapse is imminent. Everything Jeffrey Rea does now has orange in it everything Darren O'Neill does has orange in it This piece doesn't have that much orange in it you're complaining about something that doesn't exist and there was a piece that you liked Look, the No Agenda says its orange The kid's shirt is orange, it's just orange Yes, there are two things I like We'll start by saying Joe Baba, cracker barrel no agenda art right idea horrible execution you needed to do a lot more and you could have won.

2:01:18 But the one we both liked a lot and you chickened out on. I'm like, we should use this! We should use this!! I didn't chicken out...I was wisely determined- I'd wisely vetoed it And we do have a veto on this show, on everything It was the Palestinian guy He's wearing the shirt Keep Calm and Blame The Jews I thought it was fantastic And it was done by our shape shifting Shekelmeister Yarr Moore Yeah, Yoramore is Jewish I believe. No he's donated. Yeah he donated shekels Yes and i thought that was hilarious And you're like, no we can't do that man. No I... You didn't really push back on me too much. I said we really should do this one and you're like- No! No, I liked the kids. Yeah, you said you were gonna make this argument knowing full well that your- You vetoed it. Oh okay so now when we say- Of course I vetoed it because we're not using it.

2:02:19 You also like the agays one. That's what I'm saying, Corderite had the right idea with the agays but they're like two chicks in there! What are those chicks doing in there? With the handsome gay guys it was the right idea you had an idea and then yeah we figured that he couldn't prompt the chicks away. The chicks weren't promptable Hey, where is my... I need an A-team jingle for the A guys. A-gays? It seems like such an obvious one If you're looking for something done in Washington D.C., you need the A-gays! Come on! Come on Jingle Makers You guys used to be on the game, on the ball They've dropped it I don't know what happened Grip grip grip jeez Well okay

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AI Music Generation, Laurie Anderson Anecdote

The hosts discuss the limitations of AI music generators like Suno, which are predisposed to standard pop song structures and struggle with shorter formats. An anecdote is shared about meeting avant-garde artist Laurie Anderson at a party in the past. They reflect on her 1981 hit "O Superman" and its unique eight-minute duration, contrasting it with the repetitive nature of AI-generated content.

suno· ai music· laurie anderson· oh superman· steve beck· pop songs

2:03:11 Gee, I'm really happy that our art is all generated by computers. We have no more end of show mixes because everyone's just tired of it because it takes actual work except for the people who send in five minute songs. Look! I made an end-of-show mix! It's like look, I'm a developer now! Look at me! Developers developers developers Exactly So... Five minutes long That's true. I made it into showbiz! They can't seem to prompt a, hey short one minute max. Won't the prompt take that? I don't get it No, I don't think so. It's very hard to... It's like prompting out the women in the eight gays piece Yeah

2:03:55 I mean, these sumo and all suno, sumo? I think it is. They're used to making pop songs you can't do something that it has never done well I've never done a pop song that's one minute long I can't do that here's the structure I don't know how to do it! That's exactly it they have a predispose...they're predisposed towards a structure and everything has to fit within this structure yeah Until... Yeah, it's like Rector sets. But eventually we'll have a new Sex Pistols you know we'll have a new Laurie Anderson will have a print something new will come along and always does and then the AI will swallow that up and then we'll have thousands of those songs I had Laurie Anderson at the house once

2:04:43 Oh Superman, oh John. Hello I'm not what it's like hello I'm at home right now." I love that song it was eight minutes for those you never heard it ha ha ha so what was she doing at the house? We had a party and Steve Beck, one of the local... he was I think in Japan now. A local developer. Developer? Developer? He's an inventor! And it was his date who brought her over. No! Yeah how funny How was she? Well you look at her she come to here they come in and you look You have to stare and go

2:05:22 That's Laurie Anderson. Here we go, because she is very distinctive looking. Oh I didn't have the tempo right this is 8 minutes and 30 seconds long. I love this track! I remember the first time I heard that song on the radio I was like wow what is that? So different Anyway, I'm sure you were not a fan of her music. Yeah, she's nice person there you go not a fan of the music It was okay. I mean it just like you know another fan of a lot of things we also of course have producers who understand oh man do you see that guy sent that note that I When I hit send I already regretted hitting sand and

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Show Production Quality, Producer Feedback

The hosts address listener feedback regarding the show's production and the hosts' perceived political shifts. One host emphasizes the unrewarded effort put into the technical engineering and clip management of the show. They also mention a 10-hour Lex Fridman interview with Dave Smith and Scott Horton, which they decline to watch, maintaining their focus on their own media deconstruction.

production· cto· engineering· clips· zionist shill· scott horton· lex friedman

2:06:16 What'd you do? No, the guy's like... I've been listening 10 years for free! But i would consider donating. If you admitted that there are shapeshifters That Q is real Stop rebranding The Great Awakening as The Great Reveal Which we have on- it's called the Season of Reveal And I never say it. No It was only about me obviously I'm the problem. If you ask anybody about the show, I am the problem. Except for that fact that you're the one who produces this show! Oh no... People should realize a couple of things I complain about

2:07:00 I mean, I can complain about a lot of things but one of my main complaints is that no one has recognized officially the quality of the production of this show which is all on Adam's shoulders because he is the CTO of this operation. That sounds like a disease. I'm the CTO of this operation. He's the CTO of the operation and he is responsible for the overall sound quality and the fact that this show, the way it goes out and everything in between... And he has never received anything for this effort! It irks me! And I engineer it. People often say so does John have clips on his side? No

2:07:42 Well, well do I send the clips to Adam? Yeah And I don't listen IQ the clips but I don't know. I don't fly the clips Are you looking at each other does he give you a like a finger sign to cue the Clipus no, they said Do you have a light does he press it? The light comes on No No, no we have a mechanism that we use which is just a queuing system where I'll say something like I've got this clip about Mexico and then he'll go down the line and make sure you spell it Texaco.

2:08:24 I feel like, I don't see anything under M. Where is it? And then you hear the, every once in a while he says, I can't find the clip and yells at me frustrated but there's always, it is my fault in these instances because I do a lot of typos on the list. I've gotten used to them now. I know what to look for by now. It's okay. But the point is that this has never been rewarded. No, a little small trophy I don't think it doesn't bother me what? Just send your cash. I don't want to trophy Anyway no but you know so we have a lot of producers who do understand that we need

2:09:11 They need money to keep alive, to stay alive, to pay bills. And this is the only income we have and we appreciate that people have kept it going for so long and we'll see how much longer it goes. This is usually when people send me a note, well you know...you've changed! I don't know? Have YOU changed in 18 years?! You haven't. Everyone changes in 18 years, but to be honest about it we haven't since we started off fairly mature We haven't changed that much No, it's always John is the same you've changed I don't see it and he has always been a Zionist shill this has been going on for a long time And you shouldn't make fun of the producers That's not right! We pay your rent

2:10:03 Well, that's actually a mistake. You see this is the lack of understanding of the formula to say that because producers like attention. The artists like it more. They are just so attention-driven And so berating them is actually a... They like it. It fulfills some sort of idealism that they provide themselves and say, you know everybody in the world hates the greatness of our art and the fact that we're artists and here's a good example listen to these guys ragging on us! I'll show them Yeah but notice they're all gone Not a single artist left They just decided to become prompt jockeys There's not a single artist left They are all gone man

2:10:46 There's actually a drawing in one of these upcoming ones. It is a pretty funny one too. No, it said be more like Scott Horton at least Dave Smith is consistent I'm the human being I'm very inconsistent Yes he did 10 hours with Lex Friedman People send it to me. You should watch this. Oh, yeah, that'll be the day I Watch a lot the people you can watch that dead and then you're gonna be qualified for the kovat shot Yeah, I'm ready Jack me up baby

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Executive Producer Donations, New Knights and Baronets

The donation segment begins with a matching offer from Sir Scovey and the knighting of Sir Sharkey. Several high-value donors are recognized with titles like Secretary General and Baronet. During the reads, a flood advisory is issued for Gillespie County, prompting a brief safety warning for local listeners. The segment reinforces the show's peerage system and community engagement.

knighthood· baronet· secretary general· matching donations· gillespie county· flood advisory

2:11:31 We thank everybody $50 and above it's how value for value works we pioneered the concept the term and It now lives in many places, and we're happy to see it Expanding like that. It is really if you're doing a podcast just ask the people who are listening to it to support you Particularly if you're doing a hyper-local podcast, I guarantee you the people in your neighborhood. If you're delivering value they will support you. They will support you in many ways time talent or treasure And then we have a special, just because it's kind of how Hollywood works. Like if you support us with $200 or more for an episode we've got to thank you not just thank you but we're going to read your note hopefully its no too long like short notes just make it fair for everybody else

2:12:21 And we'll give you a title, Associate Executive Producer of the Noah Jenner Show for that episode. $300 or above and you become an executive producer. These credits are real credits Hollywood style credits not like AR Style 15 assault rifle style no real credits You can use them anywhere where credits are recognized including IMDB.com We will start off with our first executive producer Sir Scovey He's in Charlotte, North Carolina. Comes in with the devil's number 666 dot 66 and he says Jingle Bush just send your cash ITM John not a matching donation alert here we go

2:13:07 In the morning to Sir Kretchman of the Whitewater Valley in Richmond, Indiana and to Joe Spry in Savannah Georgia for their 333.33 donations for $17.94 Thank you both for your courage! You remember this? Our matching donations. Yes, he's going to match your 333-33 donations And he has a note here... Fellow producers... He is only gonna do so many of them you got four left. Yes fellow producers 4 more matching donations of 333.33 are available that's up to and including show 1800 Producers curious about this matching donation offer refer to the first donation segment for show 1793

2:13:48 Love and light, Sir Scovey the Duke of Piedmont. Thank you Duke of Piedmont! This is highly appreciated I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash Thank you very much That's that is that's I think our first true matching donation we've had like that actually came through immediately I think Kimberly Hillage? Hillage do you think? Lakewood Washington 550 ITM gentlemen, please accept this donation for Secretary General on behalf of my son Commodore Sharkey. This amount brings him to knighthood. Please Knight Him Sir Sharkey, Secretary General of the Salish Sea. Enjoy the rest of your day! Kim. Gotta love that. Okay thank you Kim. Sure and sweet

2:14:46 Scott Redeker, Great Falls Montana 515 38 probably 500 with some fees baked in thank you he says thanks for the excellent work I'd like to be Secretary General of the Cascade County R2D2 karma please. I don't believe i'm a douche but washing never hurts You've been de-douched Says Scott Redeker from Great Falls Montana You've got karma Sarcastic the Nomad in why, why y'all missing? Why I don't even know. In Pennsylvania while missing, while missing, while missing, why are you all missin'? You're missing out and $500 this donation takes me to the baronet status and secretary general. I accept get mo nation if the parish committee allows sure

2:15:43 Join me in the meetup on September 3rd in Alabama. Yes, sarcastic! The Nomad no jingles no karma Yeah check it out at NoAgendaMeetups.com Carrie Conkle? Carrie Conkle Ah she sent me a note Carrie did She said how can I...she says I'm 63 How can I listen to the show live and I told her NoAgendaStream.com because that's what I've been told to do Arcadia Wisconsin Yes, Carrie is from Arcadia Wisconsin. $500. Arcadia? What did I say? I said Arcada and then you said it right... Then I corrected my correction of your correction of my correction Why are even talking while i'm talking Because I just feel like it First time donation! Well that's a de-douche You've been de-douched Oh no, he just got a flood advisory for Gillespie County Is that where you are? I'm in Gillespie County yeah but we're up high

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Fake UK Grocery ID News, Meta Investment Gains

The hosts play a clip claiming the UK will require photo ID for grocery shopping, which is later questioned as potential "fake news." They issue a partial mea culpa for previously playing a misleading clip about UK cash restrictions. Additionally, a donor from Brighton, UK, credits the show's "boomer perspective" for his successful investment in Meta stock, which rallied 190%.

uk· grocery id· fake news· meta· stock market· suspicious activity report· mea culpa

2:16:42 So we should be okay. But anyone who's in Gillespie County, pay attention to these warnings! Thanks for bringing humor into my world twice a week Please send jobs karma for my daughter Thank you very much Well of course Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! She only gets humor in her world twice a week? That's it It's bleak out there man Matt in Brighton, UK 38282 and just since he's from the UK I do have a bonus clip that we played during these donation segments. A bonus clip? Alright! Bonus Clip What is the bonus? This is the uh... Bonus This is the which clip is this? UK

2:17:30 Onerous, this is the I have a series of these clips. This is the latest one this is onerous new UK laws. UK no ID no groceries from September 12th a shocking new supermarket rule comes into force Without a government issued photo ID, you will not be allowed to enter any supermarket in the UK even for basic essentials like bread or milk. Officials claim it's to stop shoplifting and fraud but critics say it will destroy daily life for millions this means teenagers pensioners without passports and anyone who simply forgotten their wallet could be turned away at the door

2:18:10 Supermarkets will have staff at entrances checking IDs and shoppers say this feels like airport-style security just to buy food. Campaigners warn it's the start of a two tier shopping system that could permanently change the way Britain shops and eats And here's the worst part. Fail the ID check once and you could be banned from that store for a month Many are now asking, is this really about safety or is it the beginning of a stricter control system quietly reshaping how ordinary people live move shop budget and survive in Britain today

2:18:47 Now I have a question about this clip. Are you sure this is true? Because your last onerous UK clip turned out to be fake news, bro! Yeah... About the cash like that people had to pay £1000 for the immigrants. Well I know there's some cash restrictions going on but I have the clip if you want to hear it. Everyone was emailing me of course because somehow it's all my fault Yeah, well... You played it But yeah- I think we need a mea culpa! You got caught Okay well if your clip is bad this could be bad too This guy could be full of shit He may just be a bad actor Okay and people are like I'm very disappointed that you didn't check out before you just played it No you can't check out everything These are just clips

2:19:43 Okay, I'm sorry. I played a bad clip. Yeah but it's entertaining It was bad although i will say that the truth of the cash restrictions is that the UK banks could report you under suspicious activity report if you withdraw too much cash That part... so I give it a half a Pinocchio So Matt in Brighton gives us 382.82 and writes, I tamed John and Adam started listening in late 2007 when back in listen from episode one oh man you tortured yourself you have kept me de-woked for nearly the last two decades this donation completes my knighthood I pay for this with some of my gains from

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Tokyo Meetup Report, Fat Tug Beer

A photographic report from a No Agenda meetup in Tokyo describes a gathering at the Idle Beer Bar. The event featured international guests and the sampling of imported stroopwafels. The hosts discuss the unique beer names mentioned in the report, such as "Fat Tug," and express interest in the vibrant Japanese meetup scene.

tokyo· meetup· stroopwafel· fat tug· hop idol· beer· gitmo lowlands

2:20:39 An investment in meta based on John Sage advice episode 1484. That's where I won the bet. I'm glad you didn't listen to me! This donation would not be happening if he had listened to me. Since then the stock has rallied 190%. Nice! For the roundtable I would like to bring, to have bong hits and a double IPA. There you go. Alright So he's getting knighted And he is from the UK so he has all that all those gains from Meta but he can't withdraw it Matthew Montgomery is in Arvada. Arvada, Arveda? Colorado? Arvada, Arve... it's Arvada I think 333 our big dumb mouth Gurka Gurka Gurkha They're just Durga Durga Mohammed Jihad Durga Durga Durga Durga I know what you meant and i got you covered Dame Astrid Hey! She's the Duchess The Grand Duchess

2:21:41 Also, the note came from a combination here. It looks like Sir Mark is involved. Happy birthday Adam! $261 Just following up on Dame Astrid's note and donations Here's our photographic meetup report from the Idle Beer Bar Clybloom? Cybloom? Cybloom Where we welcomed Sebastian of the Gitmo Lowlands We were joined by Abhi, Harold and Brandon plus more idiots than you could possibly count. Idols! Idols! Oh, I'm sorry... Idols! Idols! Don't say that about our meetup in Tokyo. That was a bit of my blurred vision

2:22:23 The beers were delicious and the girls especially enjoyed sampling the strupe waffle that Sebastian had imported, especially for the evening. Nice! I bet...I can just see those Japanese girls going, what's up? What's up? I suspect that John upon seeing the bar and photos may finally be tipped over the edge to visit Tokyo. So I have visited, but not you guys. It's still ridiculously hot here so we'll raise a glass of hop idol and fat tug in your honor. Fat tug? No that doesn't sound right as we celebrate your birthday thank you for your courage sir Mark. Fat Tug! That's a great name for beer

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The Lumber Yard Podcast, Rural Community Building

A couple from Seneca, Illinois, who revitalized a historic lumber yard, seeks advice on starting a local podcast. The "Podfather" provides three golden rules: keep it short, maintain a consistent schedule, and write a newsletter. He emphasizes focusing on the local community rather than trying to emulate large-scale shows like Joe Rogan's.

seneca· illinois· lumber yard· podcasting· rural community· newsletter· substack

2:23:09 Oh wow, I get the long one here. Eric Studeman, Seneca Illinois 250 Associate Executive Producer. Dear Mr. Curry! I hope this message finds you well my name is Aaron Studeman and my husband and i are big fans of yours over the past three years we've revitalized a historic lumberyard building in Seneca Illinois within this space now called The Lumber Yard nicely named We've created a unique coffee shop, retail store, nine professional offices an art gallery and community gathering spaces including our own farmers market. Wow! I want to visit that Our mission is to spark creativity and connection in rural town that has so much untapped potential

2:23:48 One of the opportunities we're exploring is starting a podcast here at The Lumberyard. As the podfather and someone who has shaped the medium from its earliest days, your insight would mean the world to us specifically! We'd love your perspective on... Bullet point one What makes a podcast born in a small rural community stand out? Answer Make it about your community Read notes from your community. Have your community send in stuff That's how you do it Don't try to be Joe Rogan, be about your community Bullet point two How best to structure and launch so it uplifts both the voices of our town and listeners beyond it? Focus on your town

2:24:30 and launch, and tell everybody about it. And have those people tell people. And if listeners beyond hear it then that's great but focus on your town. Three pitfalls we should avoid as first-time podcasters building something with local impact Okay for every podcast are the golden rules One how long should your podcast be until you find yourself boring stop at that moment Second golden rule No matter the frequency you release, make it on the same day around the same time. Whether it's weekly twice a week once a month The same day at the same time If you don't people who build their lives around your podcast will miss it Will go look for something else and they may never come back Golden rule number three

2:25:17 Write a newsletter no matter how short to tell people that your new episode is dropping the next day You can also use this to shill for donations Add a sad puppy from time-To-time. Those are my three golden rules We greatly value your time and wisdom. We are mailing a check today for $250 as a gesture of thanks for reading and considering our requests we listen to your February podcast with Joe Rogan, we believe we are vessels for change in our community and your thoughts are appreciated As we explore the best way to get started in bringing you a podcast opportunity to our rural community Thank you for all you've done to make podcasting what it is today Your vision continues to inspire those of us who believe in the power of voices and stories to connect communities everywhere

2:25:59 Yes, and I wrote a hyper local podcast primer as John would say on substack. I think it's Adam C 1999 sub stack And thank you Aaron for your support and for your note And when you have the podcast up-and-running send me a link and I'll promote it That's how easy it is in a nutshell what? I meant by that was nobody ever asks Adam ever or his advice that's right but Anyone can do it. We don't have to run the show you can call him at home Here's my number six five zero Rita Stetchett stekich steckage stackage 231 85 second stretch Not sure how to pronounce it But she did send a sheet in like a month ago that Jay carefully put aside and we don't encourage this No, you got lucky She got lucky but here she is and she wrote his handwritten note

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Birthday Donations, Switcheroo for Tom

A first-time donation from Rita in Indiana is dedicated to her son Tom for his 40th birthday. Tom, a financial analyst and volunteer fireman, is credited with introducing his mother to the show. The hosts perform a "de-douching" for the new donor and apply a "switcheroo" to credit the donation to Tom's name.

birthday· switcheroo· financial analyst· volunteer fireman· emt· indiana

2:26:59 And I have to...I can do it. Hi John and Adam, my name is Rita. Rhymes with message. From Ogden, Dunes Indiana on the shore of Lake Michigan The donation is dedicated to my son Tom who lives, who is, who something... Who turns 40 on August 31st. Ah! That's a surprise for Tom. Hey Tom how you doing? That's the amount it's 231 85. Tom introduced me to your show we enjoyed dissecting your

2:27:40 Discussions, since this is a first donation. A de-douching is in order! You've been de-douched Please, this is the Switcheroo put the donation under his name as Switcheroo Tom He's a busy guy, he's a financial analyst, a financial planner Something a volunteer fireman EMT and a search-and-rescue guy. So maybe we got ants jobs and jobs Jingle would be great. We got ants jobs jobs, okay? Please add his name to the birthday list should be on there I think. Since this is the whole thing In the future, I plan to donate using the donation button on your site Hope this... I hope this will save you more money Yes Actually checks is what saves us the most Checks is the best, yes Yeah Box 339 El Cerrito California No agenda show Adam's European knowledge and John's boomer perspective And tips are appreciated

2:28:44 Keep deconstructing the news for at least four more years. Thank you for your attention to this matter! Sincerely, Rita PSPD please read on August 31st and that's what you got yeah we did it all right Rita and we'll make sure the switcheroo is in for Tom here as your aunts has requested I got ants. I got ants. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've Got Karma Wow, it's really coming down here right now

CHAPTER 44 / 53 Discussion

Resume SME, Subject Matter Expert Pronunciation

Linda Lou, the "Duchess of Jobs," provides advice on including No Agenda producer credits on professional resumes and LinkedIn profiles. A humorous debate arises over the pronunciation of the acronym "SME" (Subject Matter Expert), with one host claiming it is commonly pronounced as "Smee." The segment promotes Linda's resume writing service, Image Makers Inc.

resume· sme· smee· linkedin· image makers· jobs karma· production

2:29:25 Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana. 21911 and he says God's peace and blessings to all! Saint Maria Goretti pray for us! All right thank you Hello, and somebody's hijacked Linda Lou Patkins account from Lakewood Colorado. Oh my what is this new copy we have? I don't know Jobs Karma while listening to the greatest podcast in universe that shows discerning taste and superior intellect it's really only appropriate to put your producer credit on resumes oh this is because you asked for this

2:30:01 targeting media, production entertainment and of course podcasting. As your SME on resumes it's important that you have compelling messaging that showcases skills and experience that are most relevant to your target audience also There's a limited real estate on a resume, but it is nice to have it on LinkedIn. For more subject matter expertise go to imagemakersinc.com that's ImageMakers Inc with a K and work with Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes best Linda by the way I've been reliably informed that SME is pronounced Smee for some reason

2:30:41 Even though it's subject matter expert and it's an acronym, I've been told its pronounced SMEE. So if you want to... People say Smee? I think somebody is putting you on. Maybe. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Alright thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers as always These are real. These are very real credits, this is just like Hollywood you can put it anywhere the credits are recognized It is good on your LinkedIn and it's good on your resume as a SME I'm a subject matter expert in deconstruction from the NOA Agenda show. I help produce it, executive producer or associate executive producer of course you can always put it on your IMDB profile wait you don't have an imdb.com account well you do now because it is official you can use it and we thank these executive and associate executive producers remember us at noagendadonation.com!

CHAPTER 45 / 53 Discussion

NPR Friendship Tips, Religious Support Habits

The hosts critique an NPR segment on maintaining long-distance friendships, which they find overly sentimental and "pathetic." One host describes his habit of sending supportive texts to friends facing medical procedures, attributing the change in behavior to his religious faith. The other host finds the idea of "spying" on friends' doctor appointments offensive, leading to a humorous clash of perspectives.

npr· friendship· dear nina· text messages· surgery· jesus· cataracts

2:31:45 What's this Friendship thing you had I always look whenever you have a sequence of clips. I wasn't gonna make sure we get to it because that means You put some work into it well, I clipped it And cut it you clipped and cut I clipped and cut yeah you have to cut This is an interesting thing about friendships. This was a presentation done on NPR, about keeping friends having friends and it was so skewed toward the female side of the universe they had nobody that knew what they were talking about it was a pathetic

2:32:33 Interesting but pathetic presentation that I couldn't help but clip. The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks. This morning a big announcement from... I'm sorry, that's food dyes for some reason. Nice try! By the way- They're so well timed Don't say anything. I'll cut it out, no one will ever notice the difference." Why do some friendships survive for decades while others fade away? NPR Life, Hape Coast, Mariel Seguera has tips on how to maintain long-lasting friendships even in the busy season of your life Here's a common scenario. You've got this long-standing friend who never seems to make an effort to see you, but you're getting frustrated. This can happen especially if you live far away from each other or have a lot of responsibilities

2:33:20 Nina Badsen, who hosts a podcast about friendship called Dear Nina Conversations About Friendship says friendships do take effort but not everyone shows it in the same way. I really believe that we just need to redefine what effort looks like because we all have very different skill sets and Even with an old friend that we know very well, it's still... We're all human and it's still hard not to expect other people to do friendship exactly the way we do or exactly the way it was always done between you and this friend. She says if you find yourself getting frustrated with a friend for this reason consider the ways they do put in effort how they always remember your birthday or send you a text on the day of an important doctor appointment or FaceTime you randomly to check-in

2:34:02 Also, she says consider talking to the friend about how you feel. You could say something like look I love the time we spend together Oh my goodness We need instructions on how to be friends now Well, this is because these people these liberals Lib Joe's that work at NPR have lost most of their friends Oh That said that they had a meeting like I'm so lonely. Let's do a segment about that But yeah, but don't want it to be about me being lonely let's talk about friendship But no who have you ever? Sent anyone a cute little note on the day of their doctors appointment Yes

2:34:44 Oh really? Not a cute little note. I might send a text message to someone who has some kind of issue and they have a doctor's appointment, and i will lift them up by saying hey man I'm thinking of you, I'm praying for you yes! I do that regularly Not even friends, by the way. Just people I know. Oh you just do it as some sort of routine? That's not a routine is what... Have you done this before you found Christ? No! It's the Jesus in me. Okay so this is religious. This is part of a new schema but you didn't normally do this because I don't know anybody who does this. I know a lot of people who do it Yeah they're all in that church Yes that's right

2:35:29 How horrible? I would find, well it's not that. I would find it offensive that people were spying on me knowing I was going to the doctor No no! It is only if they told me like hey man I got this procedure coming up Like Mike...Mike is 81 Mike is such a good guy. His eyes are all shot, you know? He's like he was going for an operation his eyes were shut for three days so I sent him a note before and i sent him a note after my other buddy Brent he went to get his hair transplanted or something So yeah... I hope you get good luck with your hair transplants No! I would think that was an insulting note But I insulted them once it was done because they had the shave off part of his hair

2:36:13 So, of course! And then he's like stop making me laugh it hurts my scalp hurts when I laugh. Yeah yes i do that Yes I do Okay sorry to burst your bubble about me and by the way I think have also checked in on you when yo had your cataract procedure No you didn't Well I hadn't found Jesus But I will next time. For the next important procedure you have, I'll send you a nice note." I don't...I would refuse to broadcast to everybody I know a procedure so as having something that had to be done. I wouldn't do that. I had a tooth removed recently. If I'd known, I would've said hey man, I'm praying for you! Well this is the kind of annoying thing that you've developed these bad habits. Onward to part two

CHAPTER 46 / 53 Discussion

Poop Map App, Modern Friendship Dynamics

A discussion on the "Poop Map" app illustrates a modern, albeit graphic, way friends stay connected by tracking each other's bowel movements. The hosts contrast this with NPR's advice on "humility" and "forgiveness" in friendships. They conclude that NPR's focus on maintaining friendships despite political differences is wishful thinking for a liberal audience that has "lost friends to Republicanism."

poop map· app· social media· forgiveness· humility· republicans· npr

2:37:05 I don't mind that. I make a lot of the plans, but... I would like to know that you really want these invitations every so often if you could initiate one and it gives the friend the opportunity to say, Oh, I'm so glad you said something. I love that you reach out first because I just can't get myself together to even see on my calendar when I would have a date opening. A conversation can happen then and you can't have a conversation if you don't bring it up. In general, Badzen finds that the friendships that last share two qualities. One is people don't keep score or they might keep score but they check themselves on that. The other quality is that the friends give each other the benefit of the doubt like they assume the best of their friends here's what that means

2:37:47 If a friend forgets to text you or they disappear for a spell, remember they probably have a lot of other stuff going on. A lapsing connection doesn't necessarily mean your friendship is over or that they don't care about you and if they do something that hurts you understand they probably didn't intend to and talk with them about it when you're ready." There is a quote I love by a former guest of mine Ruhi Kovel is her name and she's educator she's a relationship coach And she said, there are people who never disappoint us. And those people are called acquaintances. I think you're barking up the wrong tree here man. Like there are some people few but we text something every morning and the other day I didn't text back because I got busy

2:38:38 And then my friend texts me, he says hey brother I'm just checking in because you know i haven't heard from you. Just want to make sure you're okay. Like oh yeah no I forgot and sorry and thanks for checking in on me! You know? And I've told you about the poop app did I tell you about the poop app No, but I'm about to hear about it. Yeah, so when I poop app yes So when I when I was visiting Christina last April I think it was she said dad dad you got to join our league? I said what is this? So this is an app called poop map and every single time you poop You hit the button you drop a poop And then you make makeup some funny some funny thing like you know

2:39:21 Well, let me read. Christina just released some underwear rainbows. Demure Manure took a load off their mind, just made a grand entrance to the septic soiree and this is like eight of her friends and they let me join and if I forget to register my poop you know they check in with me hey are you okay? You haven't pooped in the last three days! Yeah this is the modern friendship man This is how it goes. You should get with it. Do you want to join our league No? Okay.

2:40:00 I think we found out a little bit too much. It's great! Hey, it's great wedding... Yeah it was great, I just pooped. Hey guess what? It's like when a bunch of three-year olds say daddy I pooped in my pants No because no because the trick is... Oh cause they're one liners yeah you got to do the one liners yeah exactly yes hey at least now my kid is alive that's good Badzin says any long-standing friendships are going to require forgiveness. and humility. It really requires humility to assume the best because what that means, assuming the best means I don't know the whole story so I'm going to assume there's some information I don't have. Okay one more tip from Badsen. One of the greatest gifts you can give to a long-standing friend is allowing them to change. Most of us want to be able to develop and change our minds about things

2:41:00 There's not a lot of hope in the world if we have to keep all the same opinions and interests that we had from the time we were 10 years old, 15 even 20s even 30s. It's really important to give your friends space, to try different ways of living. As you and your friends navigate romantic partnerships, career changes, illnesses, financial ups and downs, births and deaths just be there love them let them be who they are and who they're becoming This was a total waste of air time that's for sure like who needs this if either friends or not friends

2:41:37 There are a bunch of people that have lost a lot of friends to Republicanism. And now they're trying to say it's okay if they become a Republican, maybe you can still say hello... Oh bullcrap! They're not gonna do that. You know that that's not true No but this is wishful thinking This is the kind of thing you get on NPR now These people are pathetic Yes Alright, and that was the point of it. Yeah since it is a although we did find out more than we needed to know We went from Jesus to the poop map I don't know man this is what a show what a show ladies and gentlemen so You may not play the tick-tock three way girl That's a disgusting clip you may play any of the other two oh you saw that one yeah? I saw that one as dumb It's insultingly dumb

CHAPTER 47 / 53 Discussion

Josh Selter, Trans-Indigenous Satire

Comedian Josh Selter performs a satirical bit where he identifies as "Walking Tomahawk," a trans-indigenous Native American. The sketch mocks modern identity politics and "transphobia" by depicting a white man demanding access to a reservation bathroom based on his "assigned origin at birth." The hosts discuss the "shaking" and "self-pity" tropes common in TikTok videos that the satire targets.

josh selter· satire· native american· trans-indigenous· bathroom· bigot· identity

2:42:28 Well, I do have a screwball one. Yeah? By a comedian... the guy's he's not really a comedian but he's like this is the bonus clip that you should've gotten Oh! I'm sorry. I did not know tha- You didn't text me! You didn't send me- Oh, you're right That was my- you're right because I haven't sent a bonus clip in for so long I forgot I was supposed to text you You didn't send me a note like a good friend would do So hey, I got a bonus clip How's your poop coming? I gotta poop I got a bonus clip for ya. So, you can retrieve it while I explain this clip? Yes yes you explain it. This guy is a... I can't call him a comic but he's an absurdist and he uses the concept of reductio ad absurdum to make points that's a concept that you reduce things to the essence to the point that its absolutely absurd

2:43:25 And he does this, and his main thing is to go after transgenders. The whole idea of you're a woman if you say you're a woman. Identifiers. So this is one of his better pieces. He's identified as Taylor Swift for awhile but now this the one where he's identifying... The guy's name is Josh Selter. And he identified, and you have it. Yes I have it as I was ready to fire then you... He identifies in this case and he's got all the right memes in here including the shaking hands he identifies as an American Indian. I am literally shaking right now. I went to a casino for the first time in my life and while I was there I tried the buffet and their wild caught bison

2:44:19 As I was driving home, my stomach started going crazy. So I stopped at the reservation on the side of the road and ran into the management office. Some lady comes out from behind a desk and she's like can I help you sir? And I said yeah i need to use the bathroom. She's like are you part of the tribe here? And I explained to her that I was assigned the wrong origin at birth but identify as Native American and go by walking tomahawk And she was like, wait so you're a white guy? And I said excuse me bigot. Don't dead feather me! What is wrong with these transphobes that they go out of their way to mis-indiginate us? It's like what's so hard to understand that trans indigenous Native Americans

2:45:08 are indigenous Native Americans. Like, why do I even have to explain this in 2025 to people? So now I don't have anywhere to use a bathroom because I'm trans and it's like- Now I'm suffering in my car and I have no bathroom that I can use that matches my national origin because people want to be bigots and mean transphobes. just be nice, people!

2:45:53 Just be nice. What's the sound effect? Well, it's a fart sound but he's got one of those little devices It's a handheld when he's got it off to that you can't see it But I know is holding it to the right and it just doesn't sound good So he could have done a better job, but I like that. I like the trans indigenate or whatever That was yeah well what he has down and this is a pattern I've noticed Well, this is Lily. This woman, Lily who's on or Guy Garaud, I don't know if he the guy could be a complete put-on He's the one who was always bitching and moaning looks like a dude with long hair and lipstick And he's always bitchin' and moanin' on TikTok for being misgendered He's always shaking and it's to say any sounds just like him And it says it's a pattern yeah well that the pattern see if you want to get likes

CHAPTER 48 / 53 Discussion

Social Media Self-Pity, Chili's Marketing Strategy

The hosts observe that social media success is often driven by a "self-pity promotion machine," where users receive more engagement for being sad or outraged. They analyze a viral TikTok of a woman claiming she must leave the country because of a Chili's commercial. They suggest this is a sophisticated "outrage marketing" strategy designed to make people search for the advertisement.

tiktok· self-pity· marketing· chili's· clickbait· advertising· outrage

2:46:44 and you want to get lots of comments, you have to talk about how sad you are. This is... I mean sometimes it's about how mad you are these are a lot the clips you have but social media the success to social media is to view it as a self-pity promotion machine this is what gets your likes if you go on say hey I'm happy today everything's great and you get crickets This is an interesting observation you're making here. This is possible! The self-pity promotion machine, everybody just wants to... Oh it's okay, you go girl, you'll be okay praying for you thoughts and prayers everything's great the sun will come out tomorrow that and that's why people do it and this I think is a big reason why people who are often on social media are perpetually sad

2:47:36 Because all they're just dealing with sadness all day long. Because they get more attention being sad Exactly, so it's encouraging this approach to life Yes And then you get a chat bot and the chat bot will make you even sadder I'm not gonna argue against that so far because when your right most of my clips are something else in fact i have couple more but...I would like to play this one This would be the insuperior gal bitching about men being a bunch of stiffs.

2:48:18 Men don't have rights. I think that men are just insuperior to women, I think no matter what a powerful man will simp to a woman therefore a woman in every circumstance in life is superior to a man Any man if you make more money than me If you're stronger than me and your taller than me You'll still simp for me every single time so I'm still superior Yeah, you should have stopped with the trans feather guy. This is ridiculous If you can't see air it's no good It's just all you can't see her anyway. No, it's good The key is to her being such a superior being and saying that using the word in Superior You're falling for clickbait man This is this is just this is not a real person I'm glad you'd that leads me to the last couple minute play brother. Oh no listen to this oh This is the new you talk about marketing pharmaceuticals and all the rest of it through these people and click bait

2:49:20 This is, I think an advertising campaign for Chili's. They have a new campaign manager and new advertising agency and new marketing director And this particular TikTok complaint Which kind of looks legit. I think a lot of people believe it, but what i think is exactly what you're talking about This has taken to a level that is beyond... this is something that you have to admire This is the woman who's going to leave the country I think I have to get out of America! I just saw a commercial and that was my breaking point

2:50:00 It's a Chili's commercial. It's not even a political ad, it's just a Chili's commercial and I'm losing my mind! I think i have to leave...I don't think I can be part of this world and this culture Oh My God! OH MY GOD!!! This is because of a Chili's Ad! Oh please! This is fake! I think you'll need the country! This is designed- I dunno why these are- some of these clips clip off on TikTok This is designed to make you think that she's actually upset by a Chili's ad and you're gonna be on the lookout for what ad could be offensive. I'm telling ya, this is a marketing strategy it's dynamite! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Yeah, on NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 49 / 53 Discussion

Birthday Donor Roll, Bitcoin Stats

A long list of birthday donations for Adam is read, including several "boob" ($80.08) and "ham" ($73.13) themed amounts. One donor provides Bitcoin stats and warns about the potential for stablecoins to be turned off. The hosts fantasize about a motorcycle sidecar tour of the various small towns mentioned by their producers across America.

birthday· bitcoin· stablecoins· ham radio· boob donation· donors· tour

2:50:55 Well I personally am very happy that we don't have to deal with any of that nonsense and have meetings about that. Oh my goodness, can you imagine? No! Instead we just ask you to support us with your hard-earned cash to keep us going on this show and at least complete 18 years We can go another four if only only if you want it And John will thank the rest of our supporters in value for value land $50 and above right now Starting with Anonymous in Staten Island 161 and it's a happy birthday Adam. Thank you very much Randy O'Rourke in Bradford Pennsylvania 10535 that's a happy birthday Oh so nice Kevin McLaughlin 8 0 0 8 That's our Happy Birthday Adam! Thank you

2:51:43 No? That's his boob donation. He comes in later with a birthday donation. Oh he does! Aw, what a nice guy. He is awesome. Commodore...dubs KM7BPI...BPI? Is that right? KM7BPI73 Springfield, Oregon 7361 This is a ham grip donation. Or Ham Gigi, I'm sorry. Oh wait hold on okay. Ham Gigi. Okay good lord. Today is his mom's birthday. She's on the birthday list!

2:52:29 Commodore Duke KM78. She's on the list, she is on the list. BPH. Okay it's BPH not I. Because my spreadsheet they cut off the H make it look like an eye Franklin Shkipton in junior in Pinsburg Pennsylvania 7313 that's a happy birthday Janet Allgood and Watkinsville, Georgia 70 with a note which I don't have. I don't have the note either from Janet. I don't know what happened to it. But thanks Janet!

2:53:05 And then we have Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana 6502 which is the CHIP donation. Now the rest of these are birthday donations and I'm gonna read them all there's a 6430s these are the ones with the extra money added thank you and Then i'm going to go right through the 61s that all these are birthday donations for Adam starting with Mark Mark Cram in Durham, North Carolina who does need a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Sean Leviton in Oxford Ohio dirty Jersey whore your buddy you all be good and he is in Texas Dirty Jersey Whores not in Jersey at all but he's in Gladewater Texas. He's Texan Joshua Schmidt in Norwood Young Minnesota

2:53:56 These are all happy birthdays. Mickey Keck in Las Wages, Nevada and he's got a birthday for Kek Dame also on your... same as you. Tom Jandron in Clancy Montana Angela Wang in Whittier. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is I told you! He came in with a second donation to 6430 for Adam's birthday John Ferretti, Erie Pennsylvania Sir Rob in Pickney Michigan and he also has the birthday for himself. A lot of birthdays today I can guarantee it. September 3rd Michael Mataloni in Appleton Wisconsin

2:54:40 Russ Curry in St. Cloud, Florida Sir Tigger Max in Coeur d'Alene Sander Von Tohurlhar Somnath von Thulenhaar Arnhem Is it Arnhem? Yeah right Bridge Too Far, Arnhem Commodore Crummy? Oh, Commodore Crummy. He's an alcoholic. David Keyes in Riverside California. Christina Henry in Deputy Indiana. Dame Christina Pearl and Sir Robert Charles. You know, Dame Christina of course our Southwest flight attendant. Ryan Tepperton in Burnsville Minnesota. Sir Branton Castle Rock

2:55:29 Colorado Dame Rita in Sparks. She came in, she'd be at the top of the list usually but she's coming with the 61 instead. We lost money on the deal. Ryle Davis and Gloversville New York and that concludes our list of happy well-wishers Now we go to Jamie Buell in Vista, Colorado with 6006 along with Les Tarkowski and Kingman with 6006. Sarah McMillan in Sydney Montana 5798 Lisa Mikalski in Sarasota Florida 5252 She makes a note here but the Bill Gates butter episode was one of the funniest I've heard in awhile

2:56:17 Bill Gates butter. Yep Bobby Bush, Bobby Boe Vaseline is what you said that was great that was funny Bobby Boe in Bluegrass Iowa yeah it's 50 oh now we're at the $50 donors so let's just go through them one after the other Leaf Thompson and Meridian Idaho Nathan Noel in Nederland Texas Nederland? Nederland yeah Okay Clarence Clark in Jacksonville Beach. Terrence Clark! What did I say? Clarence! Oh, hi Clarence! Joshua Johnson in Omaha Nebraska Tony Lang in Castle Pines Colorado Scott McCarty in Lodi

2:57:07 Jordan Tierney in Oro, South Dakota and parts unknown is Sir Mix. Actually he's... It's a Bitcoin donation. It's a bitcoin donation of the whole dollar $50 He says here are some stats for when your stable coins get turned off One of these days I plan on doing a tour of America and visiting every single one of these places. Who wouldn't want to go to Bluegrass, Iowa? Who wouldn't want to go to Sydney Montana? Who wouldn't want to go to Coeur d'Alene or Picni Michigan? Come on man we should do that! We should do a tour you and me baby. A motorcycle with a sidecar

CHAPTER 50 / 53 Discussion

Peerage Titles, Knighting Ceremony

The official knighting ceremony takes place for Sir Sharkey and Sir Matt, who have reached the $1,000 donation threshold. Several others are elevated to Secretary General status. The hosts describe the perks of the roundtable, including the "No Agenda ring" and official proclamations, while maintaining the show's tradition of humorous and elaborate title changes.

knighthood· secretary general· signet ring· certificate· roundtable· peerage

2:57:50 Yeah, that looks about right. We'd be a hoot! Thank you to these producers we really appreciate that there's no 49 99s today but no one under 50 is ever mentioned for reasons of anonymity Of course a lot of people on the sustaining donations A lot of 33 dot 33s is highly appreciated You can go to knowagendadonations.com and support Support us with any amount, anytime you want. Anytime you feel you got value from the show just send it back. knowagenthedonations.com Thank you very much and also thanks once again to our executive and associate executive producers knowagenthedonations.com It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. And we kick it off with Sir Scott the Jew who says happy birthday to Marty Moskovitz! He turns 73 on the 29th Rita Stekic, her son Tom he turned 40 today Happy Birthday Tom Sir Brent turns 52 on my birthday September 3rd Commodore Doves wishes his mom Leslie Walker a happy one Mickey Katkin

2:58:49 Happy birthday to Joyce Keck, Dame of the OTR. Sir Rob Picni is celebrating his birthday and Dame Janet and Sir Island Dogs! Happy birthday to Baroness Cece from Greensboro Georgia She is turning 70 years old And we say happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Title changes coming facelessly Yes, we have an entire peerage ladder here once you're a knight or a dame You can keep climbing the ladder every additional thousand dollars in aggregate of course that you send Automatically gets you up to the next level and sarcastic. The Nomad becomes a baronet today And we say happy birthday Happy birthday We say congratulations to him on his title change in the no agenda peerage ladder

2:59:41 of them today, please welcome them in. All hail to the Secretary Generals! Cause they are the ones who need hail To the Secretary Generals On The No Agenda Show That's right we have a number of Secretary Generals to congratulate Anybody can become a Secretary General but it is a real official title just like Mark Ruther The Secretary General of NATO, you can become whatever you want and we congratulate Sir Scovey. Sir Sharkey who will be the Secretary General of the Salish Sea Scott Redeker who will be the Secretary General of Cascade County Sir Castic the Nomad, secretary general name to be determined And Kerry Conkle all of you are now officially secretary generals of the NO Agenda Show

3:00:34 Welcome them all in once again! And we have two knights to welcome up onto the podium today. So there is my sword if you've got a blade, John. There ya go. Ooh that's a nice one Commodore Sharkey, come on over. And Matt both of you have supported the show in the amount of $1,000 or more that means I get to pronounce the K-D officially as Sir Sharkey Secretary General of the Salish Sea and Sir Matt Gentlemen for you we have hookers & blow rent boys and chardonnay bong hits and a double IPA by special request Also with that we've got beer and blunts We've got Rubinous women and rosea We have geises and sake vodka vanilla

3:01:29 Along with the IPA, we also have some bong hits with some bourbon. Sparkling cider and escorts! Ginger ale and gerbils! Breast milk and pablum! Cowgirls in coffin varnish! Organic macaroni and plasticizers... And of course, we always have the mutton and the mead Now for these Secretary Generals I believe you can go to NoahJennerings.com Soon there will be a order form To have your very official certificate No it's a different word Your proclamation of your Secretary-Generalship will be able to order there with the name that you want, the address you want it sent to. And of course for our brand new Knights, you can go there take a look at your No Agenda ring which will be coming to you It is a signet ring so that means you always receive some sticks of wax

3:02:15 seal your important correspondence and we always have a certificate of authenticity there for you as well. Welcome both of you to the roundtable of No Agenda Nights and Dames! Yeah, baby the no agenda meetups everyone knows all about them We are the only podcast that has this level of meetups this level of organization No agenda meetups calm where you can schedule them. You can find them This is where you find protection because that's what connection always gives you these people that you meeted The meet-ups will be your responders in an emergency your first responders and

CHAPTER 51 / 53 Discussion

Meetup Reports, Flight of the No Agendas

Audio reports from various No Agenda meetups are played, including "Flight of the No Agendas #66" in Southern California and a small gathering in Maastricht. The hosts emphasize that these meetups serve as a "protection" network of first responders for the community. They announce upcoming events, including a pig roast in New Jersey and a meetup in Johnson City, Texas.

meetups· leo bravo· southern california· washington· maastricht· pig roast· first responders

3:02:52 And as always, Leo Bravo is out in California. He has Flight of the No Agendas number 66 A lot of people showed up! Hey everybody it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 66 I'm passing a phone around In the barn and... Down here at the H MS bounty at flight of no agenda number 66 can't wait for 666. Hey John, body warm Bobby here our first meetup by two human resources Bella and Uriah wasn't sure if I was gonna be able to make it out here because Camilla told me not to come. I looked her square in the eye and said i'm going to come passing the mic down to my daughter first Isabella. Donate to No Agenda! And my son Uriah. Call Dave Dequeen man! If I could do a quick

3:03:36 Shout out to my co-worker. He's a long time douchebag, listening to your show for 13 years and has never donated red cent. His name is Sean Sebulski. Douchebag callout! Hey John Adams, Sir Lia Kim Full Pop here in the communist stronghold of Los Angeles and I've not stepped on any poop today. Sir Robertson of Two Sticks here having a great time with everyone. I drove down four and half to actually closer five hours for this meetup Happy to be here. Thank you everyone Love the dedication of the flight of the no agendas out there in Southern, California Here's a local 360 meetup in the morning from the vaults in Blaine Washington This is Dame Jay protector of pandas Hi My name is Annalise and I served the no agenda podcast today and they were you know absolutely horrible I'm just kidding They're amazing they were blast

3:04:29 and I hope they enjoy being here as much as I am here. So there you go! Hi, this is Alan aka Circumcision where I can see socialism from my deck Not a spook but they frequently come here and I can't say anything else Sir Ryan the Refiner here deconstructing news and constructing friendship in the morning This is Travis In The Morning not a knight but not a douchebag we'll keep working on it This is Jason and I'm glad to be here. It's been a year since we've had one of these so we gotta get these more frequent Thank you very much! In the morning! And our last Meetup Report, nice to have the server in there as well Remember to get your servers in this Meetup Reports This is the unofficial Maastricht meet up Very small Hi John and Ellen, this is the unofficial Maastricht Meetup Report I joined one other producer

3:05:19 Here is Roland. In the morning, this is Roland Connectionist Protection also listen to randumb.com online in the morning and still coming we got some meetups taking place actually we have one taking place right now The Annual South Jersey Pig Roast It's at Dane Wenz house in Medford Lakes, New Jersey. I can't wait to hear the meetup reports from that on my birthday September 3rd Huntsville area Meet up six o'clock at the Old Bear Brewing in Madison Alabama On Thursday our next show day The Northern Wake September Soiree Six o'clock and Hoppy Endings in Raleigh North Carolina And on Thursday the 4th as well The Houston Lazy Dog Monthly Meet Up 630 at Lazy Dog Restaurant & Bar in Houston Texas

3:06:02 Many more meetups to come including the 7th in Hofdorp, The Netherlands South Sloan, British Columbia Canada on the 8th. On the 13th Keyport New Jersey Oakland California 19th Tilburg in The Netherlands 20th Bedford Texas Fort Wayne Indiana on 30th all the way through until October 10th Johnson City Texas not far from Fredericksburg where we'll have a meet up on 11th I will be there along with Tina the Keeper...I hope That's it. NoahJenAtMeetups.com Go there to find out all about the meet-ups, where they will be taking place in your town If they're not anywhere near you start one yourself It's easy! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

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Black Garlic, Tip of the Day

The "Tip of the Day" focuses on black garlic, a fermented product originally from Korea that reportedly helps lower blood pressure. Despite its appearance, it is described as having a sweet, chocolate-like flavor and a texture similar to roasted garlic. The hosts discuss the 4,000-year-old origins of the recipe and the specialized process required to create it.

black garlic· korea· fermentation· blood pressure· chocolate· avocado toast· gourmet

3:06:44 You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame. And you wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a pod Well I can't believe this happened, I have no ISO and i don't think you have one either No but I have a song! You have a song? Yeah you won't find it just by looking at...it's the... Kilmar is our neighbor Killmonger's our neighbor, you can't have him Trump! No! Killmonger is our neighbor. You can't have him Trump! That's horrible

3:07:38 We can't even... You haven't heard that yet? No, I don't even know what it means. Kilmar Albrego Garcia is our neighbor Yeah this is not an end of show ISO Oh okay well go dig into the archives you only have a million of these things Let's try this one Thank you thank you thank you thank you Got that one. I got, uh... I have feelings! There it is Okay, i have feelings it is and now everybody It's time once again for John's illustrious tip of the day Oh this is a screwball one but I have to say It's dynamite Tip of the day

3:08:30 Black garlic. Black garlic? That sounds nasty! So black garlic, and you can buy it by the bulb. There's a different version that also they make a paste out of it. So black garlic I knew about it but was forced to try it and Mimi is big fan of this stuff because she claims that she has got one of those bracelets on her, measures everything she does blood pressure all oxygen. She says if you eat this black garlic your blood pressure drops like a rock but besides the medical aspect. Black garlic, which turns out to be... because I was irked by it when I tried it and said this is unbelievable! You get a clove you pull a garlic clove out and eat it tastes like chocolate its black

3:09:20 It has the texture of roasted garlic, but it doesn't taste anything like garlic. And I was so irked by trying it that this is supposed dilettante gourmet I should have known about this years ago. It turns out its only invented in 2004 in Korea but further research indicates it comes from a 4,000 year old idea or recipe that some guy rediscovered in 2004 about how to ferment garlic. And it's a fermented garlic in the bulb, within the bulb and you need special temperatures and pressures and everything in between to get it to work. It's not necessarily cheap, like couple of bulbs cost about six bucks seven bucks maybe

3:10:11 and you can eat it or you can mix it with stuff. It would be good spread on bread, with avocado toast, ya know? It's an astonishing, it tastes a little like chocolate. It's got a gorgeous texture. It is a fabulous thing that I would have never had unless I was forced to try it. Gorgeous texture! It's just fabulous! You just became super gay! I don't know what's up with that? Well...it's amazing So who and how was this 4,000 year old recipe codified and what was it written on

3:10:50 Stone? Was it hieroglyphics? It was somebody dug it out. A Korean researcher found this recipe, I suppose and they passed along to this guy. Some guy perfected how to make it in Korea because there's a process you can do at home but it's like don't! Wow, it's just too much work. You can do fermentations at home and you could do cabbage and different pickles but in fact this takes very specialized temperatures and pressures And there it is another awesome food tip of the day as part of the tip of the day find them all at tipoftheday.net Great advice for you and me Just a tip from your CD And sometimes Adam

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Show Outro, Optimist Mix

The show concludes with a series of classic end-of-show mixes, including the "Optimist" mix by Spencer Pearson. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the next broadcast on Thursday and the value-for-value donation model. Final banter touches on the weather in the Texas Hill Country and the upcoming "Random Thoughts" podcast episode.

gary· spencer pearson· optimism· media deconstruction· texas· silicon valley· mofos

3:11:38 Created by Dana Burnetti. It's just fabulous, I tell you! It's fabulous! So fabulous... My oh my oh my. That's it everybody for our broadcast day on this holiday weekend in America Labor Day weekend and guess what? As a public service we're working for you because we love you Join my league Up next on noagendastream.com Well it was promoted in the Meetup Report Random Thoughts Episode 3,3,4 so you can enjoy that and we do have some classic end of show mixes Since we didn't have any new ones. We've got Gary with the classic Korean news screamer. Oh, we've got phantom bill with the tick tocks

3:12:29 and Spencer Pearson, who's very optimistic about everything. And we will return on Thursday with another at least three hours of media deconstruction for you and I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country where it is thundering and very very wet in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. Yeah from Rhode Island Silicon Valley where it's kind of nice out. I'm John C. Dvorak See y'all on Thursday please remember us at noagenda donations dot com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such one

3:13:34 That's right, TikTok. TikTok. TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! That's right. TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! TikTok!

3:14:27 I am a real genuine optimist and i see nothing but this none of this is good. None of this is good, none of this is good. I'm an optimist! None of this is good. Not hanging out with you we do the show come on it's never gonna be anything interesting none of this is good You're a starry-eyed optimist. You actually think that things are gonna change? None of this is good! I'm not hanging out with you, we do the show. Come on it's never going to be anything interesting none of this is good. You're a starry eyed optimist. You actually think that things are gonna change? None of this is good

3:15:14 I am a real genuine optimist. We do this show, you actually think that things are gonna change? I'm expecting way too much, I know! But not hanging out with you because you are an optimist Shut up, shut up! Hey, ya know what? I'm gonna end the show The best podcast in the universe! I have... Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. I have feelings