1:32:57 I thought the eclipse was exciting. You gotta get a clip of the day for dredging that up. It literally popped into the algo! I was looking at different YouTube video and this YouTube short popped up, like wow... This is great! You got lucky. This is great I don't know if you saw this, it was BBC hard talk. Hard talk. Stephen Sackler. Oh where he...I have that same clip if you have it Yeah but I have the whole thing It's a little more to it and uh..and I just...I've some commentary about this so everyone saw By the way, Stephen is a dick
1:33:47 And the hard talk has been like this forever. They just think it's so cool to be with a British accent, to just grill somebody unnecessarily and not let... You know? Hard talk 16 years ago we started this show I used to watch it because they're a different guy but ever since the Stephen Sackler guy or whatever his name is came on it and the arrogance and condescension of his style, this shows unwatchable in the BBC should take it off the air. Well it was doubly disgusting because what everyone...the clip that went viral
1:34:27 And we're like, yeah! You stick it to the BBC man. You tell them, you tell them. But meanwhile this was an entire net zero promotion complete acceptance that CO2 is killing us And the president of Guyana did not push back on the bogus climate change charges. No, he's all in on it! This was a promotion of global warming and everybody fell for it like yeah man you tell them carbon sink
1:35:05 We have to be very careful about this climate change stuff. This is the stuff, we're looking at Trump and Biden and Algos... It's the climate change! This is how they are going to lock you down Welcome to Hard Talk. I'm Stephen Sacker and today, I am in Guyana South America a country of some 800 thousand people which right now can claim to have the fastest growing economy in the world The reason oil vast reserves of this stuff located offshore My guest today is Guyana's president Irfan Ali
1:35:44 This country's newfound oil riches have stoked tensions with neighboring Venezuela. They've also raised questions about this country's vulnerability to climate change, so is oil really a blessing or a curse? All right so now we get into the thing that most people saw let's take a big picture look at what's going on here over the next decade two decades it is expected that there will be $150 billion worth of oil and gas extracted off your coast. It's an extraordinary figure, but
1:36:23 Think of it in practical terms. That means, according to many experts more than 2 billion tons of carbon emissions will come from your seabed from those reserves and be released into the atmosphere I don't know if you as a head of state went to the COP in Dubai Let me stop right there Do you know that Guyana has a forest forever That is the size of England and Scotland combined. A forest that stores 19.5 gigatons of carbon, a forest that we have kept alive... Does that give you the right to release all this carbon?
1:37:09 On climate change, I am going to lecture you on climate change because we have kept this forest alive that stores 19.5 gigatons of carbon that you enjoy, that the world enjoys, that you don't pay us for, that you don't value, that you don't see a value in, and that the people of Guyana has kept alive Guess what? We have the lowest deforestation rate in the world. And guess what, even with our greatest exploration of the oil and gas resource we have now, we will still be net zero. Guyana will still be net zero." So he's right there with Net Zero which means carbon credits because that's how you get to net zero He says carbon but it really means
1:37:49 carbon dioxide because that's just become the thing now. Oh it's carbon, no it's carbon dioxide and it goes downhill from there. The Center for International Environmental Law has described the oil and gas production in Guyana as turning your country from as you rightly put it a carbon sink into a potential quote carbon bomb Now you may say you have every right. I mean, come on! This thing is a climate change promotion Climate Carbon Bomb Give me a break. Potential quote carbon bomb now You may say you have every right to exploit that oil and gas That's ridiculous we even with our exploring
1:38:32 and production of all our resources, we are going to still be carbon neutral. We're still going to be carbon neutral. Let me quote you Greenpeace who say quite simply, To avoid the worst impacts of climate change... And you know that your own country is one of the most vulnerable to climate change because most of your population lives below sea level! And we have paid guess what? Now this is interesting So this guy, not only is he all actually really on a net zero but now he's reminded that his country most of his country lives below sea level. But he's all in on sea levels rise Of course because you know that's what Obama knows with this house on the coast. And we have paid guess what? Guess what We have paid for the mitigation. We have paid for it up adaptation. We are the ones who have to find revenue No no
1:39:25 No, no. I haven't finished telling you what Greenpeace say. We need to keep the majority of the world's remaining fossil fuels in the ground. Yeah, Greenpeace can say that. You're not doing that! Greenpeace and you can say that but we need to get resources In the developing world, we need to get resources to build sea defenses. We need to get sea defenses to build a drainage and irrigation system. You just said that we're six feet below sea level! Who is going to pay for the infrastructure? Who is going to pay for the drainage and irrigation? Who's going to pay for development and advancement of our country? Are you going to pay? It's not coming from anywhere. It's not coming from Greenpeace or anyone else.
1:40:06 So he's admitting, we've got to pump the water out man. When the sea level rises and people start to drown you're not going to pay for that hard talk man! No! We're gonna pay for it with our carbon! Isn't there a cynicism here in Georgetown best expressed by your vice president who said recently because there is this climate change imperative to decarbonize our policy is to get as much oil out of the ground as quickly as possible? Now he said harsh for those who think that you should be environmentally sound, but that is the reality of it. Those were very honest words from your vice president. And that is what we are – honest! We're practical. So you're rushing to get this oil out before any deal is done to quote Dubai Copp to transition away from oil and gas? You can say we are rushing but we are very practical. We have this natural resource
1:40:56 and we are going to aggressively pursue this natural resource because we have to develop our country. We are committed to development of this region, we have to create the opportunity for our people because no one is bringing that for us you know what it's bringing back for us? No one is paying our agenda! So while everyone thinks this is a big win it's not The guy's all in his vice president's all-in just they have a different solution let's do quick I like the analysis. I'm gonna give you a clip of the day Oh, that is very kind of you Because your right everyone just played the funny part I had the clips isolated because not because of the analysis because it was humorous Yes Cuz it was yeah totally and but you're absolutely correct The whole thing as it could have might as well been scripted yep Yeah Why else is that guy there? Hard talk man