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00:00 She looks like she stinks. What goes up must come down! And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley. We're all watching the cabinet meeting. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning! You're not supposed to be watching television during the show. Is it the cabinet meeting or is it another episode of The Apprentice?

00:44 Oh boy. Did you see any of this? Yeah, I saw some of it. What about it? What about it? Well, a couple of things. One is the apprentice. Yeah. And it's like all it is is a bunch of cabinet members telling Trump what a great job he's doing and how everybody's great on the cabinet. And we all love each other. And it's unfortunate, or fortunately or unfortunately, I think it's setting a precedent where now Every president who comes after Trump is gonna have to do these live events. I got it We got to do an Instagram live, baby Of course. Well, that's the most transparent government in history It's tedious and you know everybody's it was just I don't know I found the thing to be so staged and and phony that it was like It was an eye-roller. Well Throughout the past few days

01:47 I just kept getting this feeling and seeing what people are emailing me and hearing people around me. And of course it's all coming from the M5M. Everything's... we got charts, we got numbers, we got red, we got green, we got up, we got down, we got panic, we got... It reminds me of COVID. People are being psyoped, they are upset, they're being spun up, they don't know what's going on, they don't understand it, all the experts are contradicting each other. In fact, it's showing up in reports, including this one little ditty which keeps coming back time and again.

02:27 Consumer confidence dropped sharply this week following steep drops on Wall Street amid President Trump's historic tariffs. Today, Trump announced that 90-day pause on some of the tariffs, but tariffs on Chinese products now stand at 125%. Bottom line, everyday items are expected to cost more within weeks or months. Take iPhones, for example. Tech analysts predict they would triple in price if Apple moved its manufacturing operations to the U.S., which is one intended purpose of the tariff. Nidia Han joining us now live in studio with a look at how the threat of higher prices is prompting shoppers to stock up now, Nidia. Yeah, people are really concerned. We asked our friends on Facebook about tariffs and received about 500 comments. Many people say that the news has now resorted to asking their friends on Facebook and received about 500

03:21 500 comments. Many people say they aren't changing their behavior, but some tell us they are so concerned about possible price increases, they are now resorting to panic buying. We're scared to death. We're retired. We're watching our savings going down the tube. We don't know what to expect next. It's confusing. confusing and leading some to stock up or even panic buy. I just bought a ton of coffee yesterday that has chicory in it, which helps the acid in the coffee not affect my stomach. So yeah, I just ordered six more cans yesterday. Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wine. Can you stop the clip for a second?

04:00 I just had to throw in a little color. Color commentary. Color commentary. Factoid. Chickery is put in coffee. I knew you would focus on the chicory. Yeah, of course. Of course you, JCD, of course you do. Tell us about the chicory. Chickery is put in coffee into lousy, non-robust, like the robusto, the crappy beans to make the coffee palatable. It's got nothing to do with stomach acids or anything like that. It might have an effect like that, but chicory is a way to take cheap, crappy tasting coffee and make it palatable. That's the reason you use it. And sometimes, yeah, okay, I like the taste of chicory, so I'll use it.

04:45 I mean, I don't personally understand. You could put salt in it, you'd get the same effect. There's a bunch of things you can do, but... But this lady, this lady had one lame eye, you know, she was perfect. One eye was kind of droopy. One eye going off in the wrong direction. One eye droopy. Yeah, well that's always good for a laugh. But there's a common theme in these reports. I ordered six more cans yesterday. Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wines, chocolate chips and cocoa powder, as well as car parts and new tires. I feel like I'm back in COVID again. Nobody knows what's going on, what's going to happen. That's exactly it. Now we have not gone to panic buying toilet paper, but it seems for some reason I didn't have, I didn't have coming. Oh, well, the way the media is playing this, but they cannot.

05:30 Help themselves with this one example over and over and over again. Could Americans soon be paying several thousand dollars for a new iPhone? Apple's landmark smartphone is set to be impacted by Donald Trump's tariffs. I mean, everyone has this example. Your iPhone's gonna cost $3,500. Guess what? We'll buy an Android. We don't... it's like... I think the news media are worried about their iPhone. Oh, if I don't have the newest iPhone, then I won't be cool and I can't have a green bubble. I've got to have a blue bubble. I gotta have an iPhone. Oh Trump, you're ruining my iPhone purchase! As most are assembled in China... Hold on a second. You're exactly right. In fact, a lot of the Android phones which are built in Korea

04:45 I mean, I don't personally understand. You could put salt in it, you'd get the same effect. There's a bunch of things you can do, but... But this lady, this lady had one lame eye, you know, she was perfect. One eye was kind of droopy. One eye going off in the wrong direction. One eye droopy. Yeah, well that's always good for a laugh. But there's a common theme in these reports. I ordered six more cans yesterday. Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wines, chocolate chips and cocoa powder, as well as car parts and new tires. I feel like I'm back in COVID again. Nobody knows what's going on, what's going to happen. That's exactly it. Now we have not gone to panic buying toilet paper, but it seems for some reason I didn't have, I didn't have coming. Oh, well, the way the media is playing this, but they cannot.

05:30 Help themselves with this one example over and over and over again. Could Americans soon be paying several thousand dollars for a new iPhone? Apple's landmark smartphone is set to be impacted by Donald Trump's tariffs. I mean, everyone has this example. Your iPhone's gonna cost $3,500. Guess what? We'll buy an Android. We don't... it's like... I think the news media are worried about their iPhone. Oh, if I don't have the newest iPhone, then I won't be cool and I can't have a green bubble. I've got to have a blue bubble. I gotta have an iPhone. Oh Trump, you're ruining my iPhone purchase! As most are assembled in China... Hold on a second. You're exactly right. In fact, a lot of the Android phones which are built in Korea

06:16 Thank you. And I have one that cost $75 which works just fine as a smartphone. You got gypped, you paid too much. And so everyone's all bent out of shape because of the, ah, okay, good catch. Keep listening, keep listening. Are now subject to a one. Entire reports about the iPhone. 104% import duty. Some analysts say Apple's costs could rise as much as 43%. If that's passed on to the consumer, the top of the line iPhone 16 Pro Max would go from a $1,600 retail price to nearly $2,300. I would not pay $2,300 for an iPhone, for the US iPhone, for any reason.

06:53 China has actually from the start mentioned negotiations or talking with the Americas from the start but right now they are demanding a bit of respect first so at this stage no breakthrough on the horizon tensions are extremely high neither side backing king down in numbers. Beijing has escalated as much as the U.S., responding in kind to their tariffs, you know, 34% and now 50% so far. The United States, though, insists that the playing field was vastly skewered in the first place because of that trade deficit they have. Without a breakthrough, though, we are heading towards a much nastier trade war than anything we've seen before. It's really difficult to see the end of the tunnel. Donald Trump's

06:16 Thank you. And I have one that cost $75 which works just fine as a smartphone. You got gypped, you paid too much. And so everyone's all bent out of shape because of the, ah, okay, good catch. Keep listening, keep listening. Are now subject to a one. Entire reports about the iPhone. 104% import duty. Some analysts say Apple's costs could rise as much as 43%. If that's passed on to the consumer, the top of the line iPhone 16 Pro Max would go from a $1,600 retail price to nearly $2,300. I would not pay $2,300 for an iPhone, for the US iPhone, for any reason.

06:53 China has actually from the start mentioned negotiations or talking with the Americas from the start but right now they are demanding a bit of respect first so at this stage no breakthrough on the horizon tensions are extremely high neither side backing king down in numbers. Beijing has escalated as much as the U.S., responding in kind to their tariffs, you know, 34% and now 50% so far. The United States, though, insists that the playing field was vastly skewered in the first place because of that trade deficit they have. Without a breakthrough, though, we are heading towards a much nastier trade war than anything we've seen before. It's really difficult to see the end of the tunnel. Donald Trump's

07:42 way of speaking is certainly not considered to be very diplomatic in the eyes of the Chinese. Beijing has now announced travel advisories to its citizens visiting the US as well as telling overseas students there to conduct safety risk assessments. All this talk, everything, all this talk, what's the result? Deciding whether or not they should continue studying in the US China is arguably the only country that can really hold its ground when it comes to dealing with the humiliating rhetoric coming from Washington rather than the smaller economies who are having to sign up to strike deals with Donald Trump. Beijing is standing firm for now, so diplomatic tensions have escalated. But of course, it's neither

08:29 in the US nor in China's interest to let this situation get out of hand any further. US tariffs on Chinese goods will ultimately hurt US consumers. Just think of the price of the iPhone that will inevitably rise as for China. I mean, what is this? Is that the only thing that's going to be affected? Is that truly the problem? And every hoi polloi rich money person Although not necessarily hoy, poloy, or rich. But Andrew Horowitz, they all say the same thing. Well I like the tariffs, I don't like how he's doing it. I don't like how he's doing it. He could have done a little more subtle. I don't like how he's doing it. He's not a nice man. He's not showing respect. I'm sick of it.

09:14 And then here's the new one. This is the new one. Oh, oh boy! You heard Horowitz's feelings. I heard him. He wouldn't even... he is so mad when you did the typical plug for no agenda. He didn't throw in the Sunday and Thursday. That's true. Good point. Yeah, I listened to the show. He's steaming mad. He's mad. Trump is... Well, look, let's stop for a second. I got to defend him. I love Andrew, but still... Here's the deal. He has to take nothing but grief. Grief. 24 hour a day grief. What happened to my portfolio? You fucked me. It's your fault. You should have told me to sell. Where's my money? I mean, this is basically the worst job in the world if you have a situation like this. So he's angry. Now listen to this. So Tina put her retirement money with Horowitz years ago.

10:13 And so she said, oh, I got a note from Andrew. It was like a letter to all his clients. And it was, I just deleted. I don't want to see it. I don't care. I understand it's not easy for him. It's not easy. But it seems like the only people who are mad are people who can afford iPhones and people who have portfolios. And this is the latest. This is a good point. Well, that's what's going on. This is Wall Street versus Main Street. And the president has chosen for Main Street. But Wall Street is trying to make Main Street super afraid. The COVID's gonna get you. It's gonna kill granny. You won't have any toilet paper. This is what's happening again. And I'm sick of it.

11:00 Here's Ari Melburn from MSNBC. This is another thing they're doing now. There isn't a red or blue America when a president's policies wipe out what you see here, part of the $6 trillion losses in days. And losses, you know, no one understands losses. It's not like, oh, I just dropped $6 trillion and someone rode over it with a truck and it's gone. No, it's value of paper. Stop it. Everyone loses. Everyone loses! My iPhone! New evidence right now showing the backlash to Trump's flailing trade war. That backlash is broad. From the bankers and CEOs I mentioned, quoted some here at the top of the show, to political leaders in both parties. Now then there are still many people who of course avoid

11:48 traditional or credentialed press. Yeah, people who are smart, who don't want to listen to your blather. This is what CNBC looks like if you turn it on on the screen here, but people may not see that kind of news coverage of the tanking markets. There are people who consume alternative, younger media. That's a cultural matter. No, it's not a cultural matter. It's because M5M, you Ari Melbourne, suck. People have gone to alternative media not just a culture matter. No, we don't want to watch MSNBC That's for the elites with $3,500 future iPhones or what you've heard about some of these MAGA friendly podcast streaming shows And a different set of voices rules, let's be clear many of them speak to their audience in an unfiltered Authentic way in real time. That's

12:35 That's part of what draws their audience. Now they have MAGA credentials. It should tell you something. What's a MAGA credential? Let me get my wallet out. I want my pass. Where's my MAGA credential? I want some, it's next to your boomer Zionist shill diploma. Believe me, it's there. I'm showing you they have this past talk about supporting Trump's promise for the country. But many of them are now sharing with their huge audiences which can number in the millions or tens of millions in the case of Rogan, who I showed earlier. Well, many of the ones you're about to see, they're sharing concern.

13:11 panic panic confusion and even disgust over the cause of Trump slailing trade war. So let's hear some examples everyone used the same ones and it's interesting that they all try to shoehorn Rogan in there but Rogan has actually not said anything about this at all so far but here's a is an actual news report from Europe. During the presidential campaign, they were considered crucial in helping Donald Trump win votes among young men. They're turning on him! While conservative podcasters are joining some of the president's billionaire backers in voicing doubts over his tariff policies. Well yeah, these guys are rich, these conservative MAGA credentialed podcasters. No wonder! Ben Shapiro, who has 7 million subscribers on YouTube and Ben Shapiro, hold on, stop the presses.

13:57 Ben Shapiro has traditionally been a never-Trumper. He's hated the guy since day one. He kind of, he had to kind of come over to the Trump side because of the popularity, but there's no, but Ben Shapiro's never been a Trumper. He's hated Trump from the get-go. You are not in service of Franz Van Katra. You are not the one getting the clips. All you need is one clip to prove the point. And this is the possibility that is retailed by President Trump and many other members of the administration. And that is the idea that tariffs are good. Trade wars are good and easy to win. Tariffs themselves are good and make us rich. The idea that this is inherently good and makes the American economy strong is wrongheaded. It's wrongheaded! Dave Portnoy is another media figure who's unhappy with how the measures have played out. The owner of Barstool Sports, which counts 1.8 million YouTube subscribers,

15:07 endorsed Trump in 2016 and interviewed him at the White House in 2020. On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20 million from his investment portfolio. Do you do the math on this? This guy's got 200 million dollars. Exactly. On Monday he lamented losing an estimated 20 million dollars from his investment portfolio. I don't know, like 10-15% of my net worth, poof. But I'm still here. That's the game. I'm still standing. I've got 180 million left. I'm here people. Don't worry about it. I'm not gonna go down without a fight.

15:49 Like, do I like it? No. Am I crying? Am I like, oh, whoa, it's me. I wish I voted for Kamala. No. Do I wish this didn't go down like this? Yes. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan, who boasts 16.4 million subscribers on YouTube, said in March that Trump's trade feud with Canada was stupid. While he was campaigning last year, Trump appeared on Rogan's podcast for a nearly three-hour interview and Rogan endorsed the Republican on the eve of the election. But in January, the UFC commentator said he was not affiliated with a political party and more recently he criticized the Trump administration's deportations of alleged gang members when one turned out to be a gay Venezuelan makeup artist. I thought it was a hairdresser.

16:33 So they don't even have anything. Now he's a makeup artist. So they don't even have a current clip from Rogan, but they're just pulling everything out, everything they can. And they're putting fear into people and tell them to go panic buy with the one eyed droopy eyed lady like, oh, I have to get more chicory coffee. These are minor things. And now we need to get some analysis. I know that you're this much smarter person in this. So I have question number one with a very short clip, because this was, I think, you know, we discussed back in March. Hey, maybe he's trying to drive the bond market down.

17:13 so that he'll be able to refi the country at a cheaper rate, which is 9 trillion that has to be refi'd this year, including 2 trillion, I believe, this month. And then this happens. U.S. government bonds are traditionally seen as a safe haven in times of turmoil. But this sell-off is shaking that view. Investors are dumping longer-dated treasuries, and even the benchmark 10-year bond is getting hit. Market participants say that hedge funds are at the heart of the purge. They need to cover losses on some of their highly leveraged bets. But there could be other more fundamental triggers at play. Concerns that tariffs will drive inflation and prevent the Fed from cutting interest rates. And that foreign investors will dump US Treasuries in retaliation for tariffs. So the bond market all of a sudden skyrocketed. That was not supposed to happen when the market tanks. What happened?

16:33 So they don't even have anything. Now he's a makeup artist. So they don't even have a current clip from Rogan, but they're just pulling everything out, everything they can. And they're putting fear into people and tell them to go panic buy with the one eyed droopy eyed lady like, oh, I have to get more chicory coffee. These are minor things. And now we need to get some analysis. I know that you're this much smarter person in this. So I have question number one with a very short clip, because this was, I think, you know, we discussed back in March. Hey, maybe he's trying to drive the bond market down.

17:13 so that he'll be able to refi the country at a cheaper rate, which is 9 trillion that has to be refi'd this year, including 2 trillion, I believe, this month. And then this happens. U.S. government bonds are traditionally seen as a safe haven in times of turmoil. But this sell-off is shaking that view. Investors are dumping longer-dated treasuries, and even the benchmark 10-year bond is getting hit. Market participants say that hedge funds are at the heart of the purge. They need to cover losses on some of their highly leveraged bets. But there could be other more fundamental triggers at play. Concerns that tariffs will drive inflation and prevent the Fed from cutting interest rates. And that foreign investors will dump US Treasuries in retaliation for tariffs. So the bond market all of a sudden skyrocketed. That was not supposed to happen when the market tanks. What happened?

18:06 What do you mean by skyrocketing? The interest rates going up or down or the bond prices going up? No, the bond prices went down but the interest rates went up. Yeah. That was not part of the theory. What theory? The theory that Trump was doing all this to refinance at lower rates. Oh yeah, no, that's because that probably wasn't the case. You may be closer to the reality with the trillion dollar coin. Well, that, so I think about the surprise that I had when I heard this. Let me see. Because this is, I had not heard this term. Let's see, where is it?

18:54 Well, we talked about on the show maybe a couple months ago, and all of a sudden, Nicole Wallace, of all people, which is hard to watch, had... She looks like she's about to break into tears all the time. She's got that droopy look, and she's just... I can't watch her. She looks like she's not showered, you know? She's kind of a... Oh, definitely. She looks like she stinks. Now, now, John. No, I mean that's what she looks like. Yeah, she does. She looks stanky. So she had Charlotte Howard of The Economist on and I was surprised to hear Charlotte

19:35 all of a sudden, from The Economist, all of a sudden mimicking a podcaster like us. What are the theories that folks from the business community have about why Trump is doing this? Doug said that there's no explanation, there's no rationale, Trump hasn't articulated a goal, and without a goal there's no way of knowing when it's going to achieve to know when it will end. Why do business people think he's doing this? Well, I think it depends on the business person, right? But there's one theory that has been bouncing around now for some time, which has to do with this idea of a Mar-a-Lago accord, right? So a purposeful devaluing of the dollar. And so if you squint at it, it's kind of like looking at a pile of dirt and trying to see a Picasso. So the strategy there would be that you impose steep tariffs

20:19 The dollar is devalued in trade negotiations that makes American exports more competitive. And you also squeeze China because China holds a lot of debt. As the dollar becomes cheaper, you're exerting pressure on China. I don't think that would work at all. Very few economists think it would work. And what are the side effects or the grave knock-on effects? You have huge inflation for American consumers. You have a declining dollar. You have declining American influence within the broader global economy. So it's just a giant misplaced bet. But if you try to understand an underlying rationale, that might be one guess. I don't think it's a

21:02 a good strategy, but it's one way of looking at it. So I think she actually convinced me this is the way to go. We need to devalue the daughter or whatever she said. Devalue the daughter. You know, it's like we've been talking about Mar-a-Lago Accords, i.e. a new Bretton Woods. If you are the reserve currency of the world, I mean, unless you can roll out those stable coins, which would have to come next, You know, you're true. Well, you call the true dollar coin. The basic thesis behind this stablecoin is better than anything she said. Right, but it could be a Mar-a-Lago coin. But you don't want to devalue the dollar to an extreme. No, but down a little bit would be okay, wouldn't it? Yeah, well, it goes up and down. It's been as low, like right now I think it's a buck nine or buck ten. No, it's one... Euro. Oh, euros. Yeah, I'm just talking about the...

21:54 Well, versus the euro is really what the benchmark is for devaluing the dollar. Oh, really? Not against anything else? It's the euro? The euro would be the benchmark. Well, that's 112 today. Okay, well then it's been as high as 120 in the past. Yeah, because, oh, so the DXY is at 100. That's the lowest I've seen it in months. So the devaluation is happening. I mean, just a little bit. And Scott Besant, we have to remember this, you did notice this on the DHM Plug Show where Horowitz tried to trick me as if I didn't know this. I heard you just waiting for him to say it, waiting, waiting, because all the... it was like Glenn Beck. He's like, well, you know who you work for, don't you? Yeah, yeah, of course, Soros. I think we talked about on this show. Yes, yes. It's proof. He's an acolyte. It's proof. It's the right word. It's proof that Horowitz no longer listens to us. He can't stand it.

22:51 He can't stand us anymore. You're probably right. Yes, he's been an acolyte of Soros, but not politically, not like a political ally, which is we always have to... Loyalists. A guy who knows how to manipulate currency. And that's the guy you want. Here's a 30 second clip of said Scott Besant. The successful negotiating strategy that President Trump implemented a week ago today, it has brought more than 75 countries,

23:27 to negotiate. It took great courage, great courage for him to stay the course until this moment. These are complicated negotiations. These are imbalances that have taken decades to create. But I think having seen the maximum level that Donald Trump is willing to go to, President Trump has created this negotiating leverage. I mean, I have friends who have small businesses and they email me, we don't, this guy's no good. We don't need a game show host as a president. We need leadership. Where is the Epstein file? I swear to God. I have to be on that side of the argument. I'm in agreement, but it's like, is that the, so you have a small business, you're worried about what's happening. But the first thing you talk about is the Epstein and JFK files. Okay.

24:20 So people are being spun up and I think it is our job, no, it is our duty, just like during COVID, to calm people down. It's just the media, M5M is going nuts. And that includes a lot of wealthy podcasters, you know, because... Are they going that nuts? I don't know. Well... I'm talking about the podcasters. Yeah. I mean, the fact that Portnoy, I mean, for one thing, if you're a podcast, Portnoy to say he lost 20 million bucks and it's 10% of his portfolio. It's just like why would you see this is like do look how much money I got I mean it's just not it's it's it's gauche. It's very gauche is the correct word gauche and by the way Rogan's not in that camp they just drag him in although I said nothing of the sort. Oh well Rogan didn't like the gay hairdresser okay.

25:16 No, no makeup artist. I'm sorry make now. I'm confused Why don't we just say the gay that he deported the gay it doesn't matter what the gay I mean, so let's go to some I've got some clips. Yes Let's get some analysis do this is from guess where? Ladies and gentlemen, live from London, we bring you more clips on the No Agenda Show that you never want to hear. That's right, the BBC World Service gives you the correct analyses of what is happening in your world. Expertly clipped for your convenience by John C. DeMora on the No Agenda Show.

26:01 Okay, we're ready. You know, I think it's besides that being a bit long I would say this thing that little kicker in there that people don't don't appreciate I do is the beep beep beep because that's I'm Scott I can shorten it. I just like filling it up on the fly. It makes me feel like a disco jockey. Oh Yeah, a disco jockey. Yes. So let's start with just the basic news stories. This is the Tariff War BBC. Oh, okay. Tariff War BBC. Here we go! If you ever needed proof that President Trump can suddenly change his mind on the big issues,

26:39 take today's decision on his landmark economic policy tariffs, having effectively declared a trade war on most of the rest of the world and wiped several trillion off share values on the international markets, Donald Trump took to social media two and a half hours ago to announce a 90-day pause on all tariffs over and above his 10% baseline. So all the individually applied extra tariffs are on hold except those on China. That other global economic superpower is the big exception now. President Trump has raised the rate on goods from China to 125% effective immediately. A short time ago the president spoke to the media and he was asked to explain the thinking behind his 90-day pause.

27:24 Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid, unlike these champions. Because we have a big job to do. No other president would have done what I did. No other president. I know the presidents, they wouldn't have done it. And it had to be done. What was happening to us on trade, not only with, you know, if you look at it, not only with China, but China was by far the biggest abuser in history and others also. But somebody had to do it. They had to stop because it was not sustainable. Last year, China made

28:02 $1 trillion off trade with the United States. That's not right. And now I've reversed it. It's for a short period of time, but we made $2 billion. We're making now $2 billion a day. And somebody had to do it. They got a little bit yippy. Yip. Yeah, let's go. I might as well explain that term. Is that the golf term? No, it's well, yeah, it's a golf term, but it's also a gymnastics uses it a lot. Yeah, the yips you got the yips you get the yips which means you do all of a sudden start thinking about the fact that you're flying in the air and you're out of control and you can kill yourself.

28:43 Yeah, on that bar. So you decide, you get nervous and you start thinking about what you're doing instead of just doing it. Yeah, that's what Michelle likes to do. I think he was talking in front of the LA Dodgers when he was giving this press conference. Ah, okay, that makes sense. You're using some technicalities. Sports analogy, yes. Some sports stuff. Some sports stuff, yes. What's interesting about this 90-day pause is that that was the rumor I think the day or the day before that. that jacked the market up 1500 points at the opening. It says, oh, he's gonna give 90-day pause and jacked way up, and then they had to come out with this comment, no, no, no, we're not, no, in fact, we're gonna do this and that. Caroline Leavitt had to say something, and it sunk the market. So this was in play. So this rumor that came out a couple days early was already, this was all schemed. In fact, the clip that I don't have. I have a question.

29:43 Was Horowitz in on the gambit? Did he buy when it skyrocketed? Did he go short when it tanked? No, he's too busy complaining. I'm gonna get a call. Yeah, maybe. I'm gonna get a call. Maybe, well, I think you're justified in the commentary that he didn't plug the show. Exactly. To plug the show or your ass is grass, Horowitz. So the point is that, and I don't have the clip and you didn't, I probably don't have it, I wish we had it, which is that Scott Besant's commentary that this whole thing was a grand scheme. It was planned, yes, I don't have it. It was planned, and I think it was because of the fact that a couple of days earlier it jacked the market up and then it disappeared because somebody leaked it.

30:34 But the whole thing was a scheme to trap and Besson said to use the word trap. The Chinese trapped them. It was a bear trap. No, bear trap is specific to the market. Yeah, that's what I said. It was just to trap them into a situation where they look like the bad guys and I think it worked and I think it's going to work out that way but as we get through these BBC clips where there's analysis coming up from again, this is interesting, again from an economist person. Oh, interesting. From the magazine and I was soon as they announced this all this gonna be some good anti-trump stuff But no it wasn't it turns out but let's listen this part two of the basic overview. Mr Trump gave more details on how this latest decision would affect different countries I did a 90-day pause for the people that didn't retaliate because I told him if you retaliate we're gonna double it and

31:32 And that's what I did with China, because they did retaliate. So we'll see how it all works out. I think it's going to work out amazing. I think that our country is going to be at the end of a year or shorter, but I think we're going to have something that nobody would have dreamt possible. He was asked whether chaos on the bond markets had influenced his thinking. The bond market is very tricky. I was watching it, but if you look at it now, it's beautiful. The bond market right now is beautiful. Beautiful. But yeah, I saw last night where people were getting a little queasy. Well, the big move wasn't what I did today. The big move was what I did on Liberation Day. We had Liberation Day in America. We were liberated from all of the horrible deals that were made.

32:16 So, countries around the world are suddenly having to rethink their responses to what had been and probably what still is being threatened. There is more time to negotiate, but was this a climb-down or a deliberate strategy? And how is it being perceived in Washington? I talked to Jake Kwon, who's the BBC's North America correspondent in the US Capitol. Well, the White House would certainly love to present this as a masterful stroke. that it is not a capitulation. You know, there has been growing calls by the industry leaders and financial investors and even some of the Republican congressmen and women who has been voicing their concern at this tariff and the trade war that's happening.

32:59 But the White House's message is that, you know, all the world—the 75 countries around the world are crawling to the White House, crawling to Mr. Trump, trying to get a better deal, something that will be advantageous to the U.S., and that he is a master negotiator, and these tariffs has been the plan all along to get a deal for the U.S. And, of course, all this is a response to the allies coming to the U.S. with a goodwill. Before you continue with the analysis, may I just play a short classic clip since the president keeps saying that he's the only one, he's the only one who had the guts, which is arguably true, but there will be for me. I'm just gonna say before you play that I want to say something about this last clip. Sure. When Trump said, this is what bothers me about the mainstream media.

33:48 They're not paying attention. When Trump says, well we just did the 90-day thing to see who was going to retaliate, we're going to jack it up on them, they're going to screw over anyone who tries to retaliate, and then the Chinese of course retaliated. What's never mentioned is that the Europeans retaliated too. Yeah, but where's, why isn't he doing it to them too? You know, if that's what he says, if what he says is true. They're always trying to catch him in a lie or something and there was a wide open one right here, right down the middle of the plate, to use a sports analogy, and nobody says anything about it. Well, what it actually was, so the Europeans retaliated to the initial

34:30 Because they, I have a clip on it if you want to pause before the analysis. I can wait until after your BBC stuff, whatever you want to do. No, no, go, play your clips. This is a very awkward situation for the European Union. President Trump said the reason he was pausing the extra tariffs, the tariffs beyond 10% for all of the six naughty countries except China was because no one retaliated except China. The problem is the EU did retaliate just yesterday national governments took a vote approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of US imports and those are supposed to take effect on Tuesday. This is France 24.

35:10 Did you see American media did not pick this up? No, of course not. But it's funny when you hear what actually happened. Approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of US imports and those are supposed to take effect on Tuesday. However, those retaliatory tariffs are not for the 20% Liberation Day tariffs that Trump unveiled last week. It's a delayed reaction to the 25% tariff on steel and aluminum that Trump had put in place in February. Essentially, it's just kind of a coincidence that the vote took place yesterday. You see what happened there? Yeah, that's a good bit. Yeah. Okay. Well, if you just want to- Is there a way out? Good one.

35:58 Well, yeah They have lots of problems, but let's go back to your BBC and I'll play other stuff later I want to hear the BB. I want to hear your analysis clips because you know, this is this is a no Yeah, so they bring this guy in from the this is actually pretty good because I think All these three clips here, they're all... The joke is, of course, they do bring the Apple thing back. Yeah, of course. Your iPhone's gonna go... Hey, how about this? How about Apple just takes half the profits? Oh boy! Yeah, because their margins are ridiculous as it is. Yes, because they have slave labor in China. Yeah. Yeah, pay your fair share, elites.

36:39 Actually there's four clips here, they're short but here we go. One of them is long. Here we go. There might be a reprieve on tariffs for other sovereign nations but for China things have got worse with the US import charge raised immediately to 125%. I asked David Rennie in Washington how Beijing would react to being singled out in such a dramatic fashion. He's geopolitics editor at The Economist magazine and he was in the Chinese capital last week talking to scholars and government officials. I think there is a political logic to this that Donald Trump came to office believing that globalisation has been a terrible deal for America going back decades and by far the biggest offender is China and that's been a consistent position of his. So I don't think this should surprise us and I think it certainly doesn't surprise the Chinese. But why should

37:30 China plan any specific policy in response when it's now clear that President Trump could change his mind in the next hour? So Chinese officials and Chinese scholars say that that is the hardest thing for their system to deal with. China likes to plan, it likes five-year plans, and it finds it very hard to deal with this mercurial, transactional American president. That said, they had plenty of warning that he might well be back in the White House and that he was campaigning on threats of imposing big tariffs on China. So they've been preparing really carefully for a long time. I believe that to be true. Yes, yeah, this is going on but but you're right the media wants it makes and and it's working because people I know and respect to say he's just a game show host He just do what he doesn't know what he's doing. He's just making stuff up and pulling it off and doing it's so much more sophisticated Oh, yeah, but by far this is beyond. It's it's beyond Immediate comprehension. Well, you guys know slouch you have to be brilliant You gotta have a big brain

38:40 They've been doing short-term America specific defensive kind of preparations and some longer term sort of attempts to reshape and rebalance their entire economy away from this incredibly high dependence on exports. So if you look at the short-term America defenses, they've been sort of getting ready. When I was in Beijing, we were told that nine different government ministries and agencies had been looking, if we need to hit back at an American tariff, what can we target that is going to hurt Trump voters and get Trump's attention and we can buy that stuff from somewhere else. So they chose soybeans as a classic example. It's grown in farm states in the Midwest of America full of Trump voters and in fact

39:22 China used to buy a lot of American soybeans, but they can get them from Brazil, they can get from Argentina. As it happens, the tariffs came in at such a high level that actually China's response has been pretty much across the board retaliatory tariffs on American goods and some pretty tough shots across the bowels of some American companies that are now being investigated by Chinese regulators. Once you start going down that path, you realize that China can actually impose really serious pain on some of the most important companies in America. Take Apple, which is incredibly dependent on China as a place to make things like iPhones, but also as an important market. They haven't gone after Apple yet, but everyone knows that that's the kind of thing China could do if this gets really rough. I got to tell you, I really don't care about Apple. It's like they've been riding high for so long. They're hoity-toity.

40:19 They think they're poop don't stink. I really, I mean, sorry for the people who are there for their options, but come on. They're printing money in Cupertino, printing it. Take one for the team, Apple. Well, Dell is another company that's highly invested in China. I think a lot of their laptops and other products are made there. I think HP's, this stuff comes out of China, of course. Well, buy a Gateway! Who owns those? They're not even in business that I know of. Remember the cow computer? Gateway. And then who else is there? Tesla's got a big factory there. They can get rid of them. Of course, UIDs. Well, I mean, they have Walmart and all, you know, they've got big, big outfits there in Wuhan.

41:13 The Chinese have got us over a barrel if they wanted to really do some damage but as this guy continues there's some geopolitical issues that China must be aware of, at least he thinks so. So there's a lot left in their arsenal in terms of how they could hit the US economically. What about Rare Earths? They have a near global monopoly on some of those. Yeah, so China has a near monopoly on the processing of rare earths and some of those are incredibly important in not just green tech but also satellites, high-end electronics, you know, all kinds of modern technologies need those rare earths. So that's a real threat. So those are all the defensive measures that China is willing to make if it has to against America. And the other thing we've seen from the Chinese is a really strong propaganda push

42:03 internally that China need not be terrified of this, that the sky won't fall. That was the language you saw from the most important Communist Party mouthpiece, the People's Daily newspaper. And their argument is, look, you know, after years of decoupling going back to the first Trump administration, America is an important market. for Chinese exports, but it's not nearly as important as it was. It's now below 15% of Chinese exports. So we have no real way of knowing how far President Trump will take this big fight with China. Should we take Beijing at its word when it says it will fight to the end? I think actually the strange thing is that although the tariffs are unbelievably high and the rhetoric is extremely fierce,

42:45 I don't think we should exclude the possibility that the two countries end up trying to cut some sort of deal. Remember, we saw them cutting a deal. It didn't really work out in the end in the first Trump administration. But I think that beneath the bluster and beneath the domestic politics, both countries do have an interest in climbing down from this. Of course. Of course, and all the Chinese have is, you're not respectful, you're not speaking respectful to us. We're not going to talk to you, you bully. That's all they're saying. Trump has made it clear that they're going to talk. Of course, of course. Which will be important to a lot of... iPhone owners. It's all about the iPhone, man. It's all anyone talks about. I don't get it.

43:38 Because well because that's the only this is the only thing they can I mean it's the fact is we go start looking at the products around you yes No, you're right the iPhone. That's the issue believe me no, but but the iPhone is the one thing this is the way I read it People who have an iPhone and let's face a lot of Americans have an iPhone. It's a status symbol. It's something you need to have It's a overpriced status symbol. Yes, and the minute you say you you're gonna you won't be able to afford it People care about that. I think people would rather buy an iPhone than toilet paper. I'm telling you

44:15 That's because yeah, you take a look around you. Yeah, sure. Okay, so I can't have a new big flat-screen TV So I can't have some cheap clothes that are toxic I don't hear anyone talking about the stuff that oh, what am I gonna do without that? Your computer. Who needs it? Who needs it? I don't need a computer The keyboard is made in China. The point is, I have a computer. The mouse is in China. It's good. Yeah, when you need to replace the keyboard, you're gonna pay 300 bucks for it. Oh, really? 300 bucks? I don't think so. It's not gonna be 300 bucks. Your point is made, but it's like, okay, so we'll just buy less crap from China. I just don't see it. We've gotten hooked on Chinese plastic opioids. We've gotten hooked on China. Yes.

45:13 The iPhone is just one small element, but here's the interesting clip. This is the I think the kind of a kicker here which will result in some deal being done. And China also has the additional problem that if America really stays closed off to Chinese exports, those exports are going to have to go somewhere else. And China is already very concerned, I was told in Beijing, by the idea that they could end up really alienating and aggravating places like Europe, even partners in Latin America, the global south, because if a tidal wave of Chinese exports ends up swamping those markets and damaging employment and jobs in lots of countries around the world because it can't be sold in America. That's a massive diplomatic and geopolitical headache for the Chinese leadership.

46:02 We don't coordinate these things, but the clip I have lined up is exactly that. Yesterday we had a phone call between EU President Ursula von der Leyen and the Chinese premier specifically about how to avoid dumping of products from China. So that would be products that China was intending to, Chinese companies were intending to export to the United States. Many will now be diverted and a lot will come here to the European Union. And if they all get dumped onto the market, that could be a major problem. So the Commission is setting up emergency measures right now to watch for that dumping. And if they see it happening with certain products, they'll put in policies to stop the flow of those products. But they want to work with China on preventing that from happening.

46:42 So tell me, tell me about this dumping. What happens? First of all, so China has product, they can't send it to the US, so they send it cheap to the EU. What exactly happens in this scenario? Yeah, there you go. You just nailed it. That's exactly what happens. And then what happens, what happens in the EU? Then they swamp the EU, businesses go out, because the EU is protectionist in a different way than we are. And they, you know, they got labor unions that are different than ours and they have different kind of complaining and they could get a revolution. I mean they can have all hell break loose here. Explain it, explain what happens. So you dump the products, take me all the way through what happens in Europe when that takes place. But you say you dump a bunch of, for example, Chinese porcelain. The whole, Europeans make, you know, Limoges and all these guys make different kinds of porcelain products and the Chinese all of a sudden dump dishes, dishware.

47:36 into France, like, because they got to get rid of it somewhere. And it just puts these little guys out of business and it causes a disruption in the ecosystem of the government. And it's a relation to the businesses. I mean, it just causes, it's just not good, it's bad. So that's a backdoor little gotcha that is taking place because of this. Yeah. You're aware of it. Obviously the economics, the guy from The Economist is aware of it. the Chinese, because he says he got this information from Beijing because they're the professors and whoever the ministers are that are just talking to him. They're all, everyone's aware of this problem and you have the clip to even back that up because Van der Lines is aware of it. This is not

48:21 This is not acceptable. So they're going to... So they have to put tariffs. The only respite they have... You would have to drop... They would just stop. You also stop importation. Stop importation. No, you can't send that here. This is good. This is good. I like this. It's getting complicated. And so this means that they're going to have to do a deal because we are the big giant market that can suck all this, as you put it, Chinese junk up. Like there's no tomorrow because we're just consumers. I'm glad you used the suck word because that is exactly the clip, a classic clip I have. From Ross Perot. That's right, Ross Perot. He was the guy who said he was going to do what President Trump is doing right now

49:07 And they threatened to kill him and that's why he dropped out. I think that's universally known. They threatened to kill his family. I thought they were threatening to kill his family or something. His family, his dog, everything. Yeah, they sent pictures. Yeah, he dropped out of the race because it was believed to be the CIA, but it could have been anybody. Well, he's standing there in this three-way debate, which was incredible at the time that an independent had so many votes that he could disrupt either party's election. He's there with Bill Clinton and George Bush Senior and this is what he said. If you just want to get out of brass tacks, first thing you ought to do is get all these folks who've got these one-way trade agreements that we've negotiated over the years and say, fellas, we'll take the same deal we gave you. And they'll gridlock right at that point because, for example, we've got international competitors who simply could not unload their cars off the ships if they had to comply. You see, if it was a two-way street, just couldn't do it.

50:04 We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. To those of you in the audience who are business people, pretty simple. If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers, and you can move your factory south of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25... Let's assume you've been in business for a long time, you've got a mature workforce. Pay a dollar an hour for your labor, have no health care, that's the most expensive single element, making a car, have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south. So, if the people send me to Washington, the first thing I'll do is study that 2,000-page agreement and make sure it's a two-way street. That was NAFTA, of course, that he was referring to, and he was right. He was right. It was very destructive to our manufacturing base. But now... Yeah, it took Maytag out of the country.

51:01 But now we have a president who is willing to do this and I'm sure that there's been a lot of threats to his family and his life for doing this because that's what they do. It's what they do. And he was at this GOP fundraiser, I think it was last night, and he had a couple of good zingers, but he said this is the difference, this is what he is. I'm proud to be the president for the workers, not the outsourcers. The president who stands up for Main Street, not Wall Street. Who protects the middle class, not the political class. And who defends America, not trade cheaters all over the globe. They're trade cheaters. They cheated on us. They cheated with tariffs on us. Cheated!

51:42 They stole our money, they stole our jobs. Yeah, there you go. He had another... So the real problem here, because that's part of the plan, is the tax, the tax bill. And this has become an issue. Because he has to pass this, A, to stop the, you know, this incredible, these tax cuts which have a sunset, which will raise everybody's taxes, it's going to screw everybody. Not just the wealthy. Hello, mainstream media and Democrats, everybody, including little bitty podcasters John and Adam.

52:18 But he also has in there, it's a perfect balance. No tax on social security, no tax on tips. You get to deduct the interest on your car if it's an American-made car. And the state and local taxes, including your mortgage deduction, will go up. You'll be able to deduct more. That's a critical piece of it because, of course, you will have some inflation. Some, I think, real economists say, half a point, maybe a point. It's not going to be so terrible. And you have these what he calls grandstanders. He's looking specifically at Rand Paul and also disappointingly, Chip Roy of Texas. But to get there, first he's got to make some jokes. I'm telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass. They are dying to make a deal. Please, please sir, make a deal. I'll do anything. I'll do anything, sir.

53:11 And then I'll see some rebel Republican, you know, some guy that wants to grandstand. Say, I think that Congress should take over negotiations. Let me tell you, you don't negotiate like I negotiate. Congress takes over negotiating. Sell America fast because you're going to go busted. You're going to go busted? Yeah, that's Rand Paul who's waffling about, well, it's a tax and only Congress can do tax. I actually looked at the legality of it. He's not incorrect. But once the president declares an emergency, economic emergency, then the president can do what he wants to do for a maximum of four years. I looked it all up.

53:58 So, he can do this. And so what Rand Paul is trying to do is say, well, we need to pass a bill against the emergency. Well, good luck with that. I don't think Congress can override the president when he invokes an emergency, which is exactly why this language is always used. Economic emergency, national security emergency. That's why we still have the Patriot Act, because of a national security emergency. And then there was still more fun to be had at the expense of Adam Schiff.

54:42 And the biggest said we call them watermelon head. Hold on that is John Kerry. That's the wrong name. The wrong guy. I found it to be just as offensive. Very offensive. That's our gag and it's the wrong guy. It's our gag. Wrong guy. Wrong guy. The biggest said we call them watermelon head. Pumpkin head would be funnier. Why would? Pumpkin head? Yeah, he's got a pump. Yeah, yeah. You know, Kerry has the watermelon head. You're right. Schiff has a pumpkin head. And the biggest head, we call them watermelon head. I say, how could that big fat face stand on a neck that looked like this finger? How can it? It was the weirdest thing. It's a mystery. Nobody can understand it.

55:23 But he's one of the most dishonest human beings I've ever seen. And you know how we can allow people like that to run in office is a shame, but we did. But this really is the problem and I'm disappointed in Chip Roy. I mean, is he so simple? He's our representative here. Are you so simple, Chip Roy? You know, is he part of the, what is the caucus, the The super conservative, oh yeah, I'm there with the Koch. Chip Roy, get with the program. With his iron grip on the Republican Party, it's long seemed that Donald Trump could do no wrong in the eyes of the party's elected representatives. But now he may be going too far for some, like Senator Rand Paul. Last week he backed a Democratic Senate resolution against the emergency powers Trump used to impose tariffs on Canada.

56:15 He was joined by three other Republican dissenters. Former Senate leader Mitch McConnell and Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins who represent states on the border with Canada. That's a nice bunch to be in there, Rand Paul. Several other Republican senators say they intend to back a bipartisan bill that would put restrictions on Trump's ability to impose tariffs with a sweep of the pen. Traitors! Exactly the kind of Republicans some people we know are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's stop this. Get that pen out of his hand, it's no good.

57:04 Bloomberg actually had... Well, you know, just to stop it for a second, Susan Collins has had a stroke. probably has never been all there for a while. I don't know what her problem is. Murkowski, I can always understand her because she was, they tried to prime, the Republican Party tried to primary her and get rid of her and so she's very resentful. She's mad, she's mad. Okay. So she's just a resentful person and she's like gonna vote no on everything. And Mitch McConnell is turning, is turning to the fart that he's always, you're kind of a senile, frozen in time guy who's,

57:40 Trump hates Trump, he just hates Trump, so he's gonna vote against everybody. But Trump even gave Rand Paul, he gave him a gift because you know the European Union's, oh we're gonna we're going to put high tariffs on Kentucky bourbon. which of course is Rand Paul's state. And so Trump said, oh okay, 200% tax on your wine and your champagne. And they dropped the tariff on the bourbon. There's something else going on with Rand Paul, obviously. Corruption, it's got to be corruption. What's that in your mouth level stuff? Maybe. I mean he is a little fruity. Excuse the word, but he is. Yeah, there's something going on. I don't get it.

58:27 Like and why is he going after the he knows that's that's that's makes no sense He knows he's not gonna get that no no one's gonna vote for doesn't make any sense Bloomberg guy I think had a good point here. underlying conditions, the breakdown in major monetary, political and geopolitical orders, and that failing to do so may blindside them to the biggest disruptions that are still to come. Dalio explained how Trump's tariff policies are driven by too much existing debt and the rate at which new borrowing is added. He said the U.S. is hooked on using debt

59:20 to finance excessive spending, while creditor countries like China sell goods to debtor nations like the U.S., and that will lead to a correction of these imbalances and a change in the monetary order. Dalio also notes that gaps in education, opportunity, and values are contributing to a breakdown of the democratic system and the rise of autocratic leaders, while the U.S. is shifting from a multilateral to a unilateral approach in the geopolitical arena. Sounds like he's all in on the Mar-a-Lago Accords. Yeah, I got a trillion dollar coin. Or my favorite, revalue the gold we have. That's my favorite.

59:58 There is some, that's another one. That's your favorite now? I thought the million dollar, the stablecoin was your favorite. You changed your favorite? No, the stablecoin is what's going to happen. My favorite is we're going to revalue the gold, which by the way, where's my live stream of Fort Knox, Elon? Where's that? Did they get lost with the Epstein and JFK files? Well, that's a good point. Where's that? I forgot about it too. Where's the gold? Yeah, where is there any gold there? So that's why it's my favorite because we can revalue the gold all we want but if we don't have it, then we're back to stablecoin.

1:00:40 This guy, this guy was on CNN. I kind of liked him. We need people out there who are positive about this stuff. So the question is, how do you define redefining as part of it? And one of the ways that you're looking at it. How do you define redefine? Well, this is CNN. You want journalistic questions? Go somewhere else. How do you define redefining as part of it? And one of the ways that you're looking at it is in terms of action he's taking. 100 years. In fact, it's the most in any single year, more only in April, since Harry S. Truman in the early 1950s. The bottom line is whether you like Trump or you don't like him, you can't say that he's come in and not try to deliver on what he at least believes was his promises on the campaign trail, and he's doing so in historic fashion. He's the soaring eagle. Yeah.

1:01:48 But the guy who tops it all, who is, I mean this is truly just a guy as far as I'm concerned who's on a game show known as Shark Tank, is Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary, who one day he's like, oh yeah, I'm investing a trillion dollars in data centers. I don't see that noise anymore. Yeah, we've already got the land, we've already got the power. No, he's got none of that. This guy likes to be on TV. 104% tariffs on China are not enough. I'm advocating 400%. I do business in China. They don't play by the rules. They've been in the WTO for decades. They have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades. They cheat, they steal, they steal IP. I can't litigate in their courts. They take product, technology, they steal it, they manufacture it and sell it back here.

1:02:40 Never has an administration 400% tears. I want like she on an airplane To Washington to level the playing field. It's just not about tariffs anymore Nobody has taken on China yet. Not the Europeans no administration for decades as someone who actually does business there I've had enough. I speak for millions of Americans who have IP that have been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the Chinese people. They brought great literacy, art, restaurants, and tech to the world. The government cheats and steals. And finally, an administration you may not like Trump, you may not like his style or his rhetoric. Finally, an administration that puts up

1:03:27 and says enough. 400% tariffs tomorrow morning. He'll tell you why. She can only stay the Supreme Leader if people are employed. If we wipe out any business there, because we are still 39% of all consumables on earth and 25% of the world's GDP, America is the number one economy on earth with all the cards. We will not have that forever. It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall now. That's a great picture. Squeeze that you got that clip. I saw it and I didn't clip it squeeze the Chinese heads into the wall now. Yeah, it's a bit Yeah, he's interesting because he does talk a big game now that yeah, yeah situations changed somewhat Yeah, this is a fun guy. He's fun But I got I got I got another one here. This is I mean if if you just want to know what regular folk watch I

1:04:26 on the conservative side, although I, again, I see a lot of conservatives freaking out about this, about this stupid president, what's he doing, because they're watching, watching financial news, they're watching your guy over there, Charles Barkley, what's his name? Charles Payne? Yeah, Charles Payne. Charles Payne. Charles Barkley. Might as well have a show. On Fox Business. And they'll go, oh, this is wrong. What are we doing? It's disrupting everything. My iPhone! But you really want to get your economic analysis from Judge Jeanine.

1:05:14 everybody in the world to come to the table or they're trying, they're calling, they're flying in, they're trying to make a deal. And he sent a message to those countries that were willing to make a deal with the United States. Let's do something mutually beneficial for both of us. Right now, his timing was right to the edge. And it was a business decision to get everyone to the table so everyone can win. If there's a standoff, nobody wins. But now, this is the biggest win for America because we've got a level playing field. We are no longer a doormat for other countries.

1:05:51 We've got a president who has the capacity, the ability and the stamina to fight to make sure that we are at least a manufacturing country again. You say the United States doesn't want to be a manufacturing country. We lost 90,000 manufacturing businesses. We want to be. Why do we have all these vacancies? Let me finish. I didn't interrupt you. All right, what we want is we want everyone who needs us to number one be able to rely on us and we need to be able to work with them. In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them and then bomb them again.

1:06:28 So my take on this whole thing was that from the get-go, I kind of agree with Besant who said this whole thing was a setup. But the one thing I think he left out, I think the entire thing, when he did his Independence Day thing, the whole scheme was to create a across-the-board 10% tariff on everything from everyone. Which makes sense. And yes, in fact, even with the trillion dollars, the excess that the Chinese have been shipping us, that's a hundred billion dollars in tariffs, even though it's only 10%. It's not that much. Everyone will gladly pay an extra 10% for Chinese products or anybody's products. It's only 10%. It's not that big of a deal. And so that would be a lot of money considering if you take a look at the totals.

1:07:16 He didn't like, instead of just coming out on Independence Day as he calls it and saying we're gonna do a 10% across the board deal, he comes out with this crazy chart where he's taxing the Penguin Island and everything. 50, 70, 80 percent and he makes a big fuss about it, crashes the market. But if the giveaway was the underlying no matter who it was had a minimum of 10% Everybody had it was there at least yeah, it was 10% plus. That's right Even yeah, it was 10% plus but the lowest was always 10% there was nobody that got less than 10% even if they had a

1:07:52 They had no tariff. So the 10% was given away when he did that chart. And so then he does this new deal, goes off to the 90-day, backs off, but he keeps the 10%. The whole thing was about 10%. But he didn't want to start that way because that would be his negotiating posture from the get-go and he'd have to back off on it. So he negotiates by putting these... It was ridiculous. Then everybody got all bent out of shape, but the real goal was this 10%, which I think is what he's achieved. Which will be enough. It'll be enough for us. Yes, it'll be enough for starters. Some manufacturers will come back. Honda makes cars here already, and so does Toyota, Nissan. That's the hard part, is building up the manufacturing base, which is his ultimate goal.

1:08:44 And I've heard, I don't think I have any clips of it, but I've heard certainly pundits on the CNN and MSNBC and CNBC saying, well, this is the mistake he's making because Americans are stupid. They can't read above fifth grade level and they're lazy and they don't want to work. And I think that that is a very elitist view of the American people. Completely. I think that we are... All three of our daughters at some point are busing tables or tending bar. And they like it. They like the money, they like the tips, they like the hours, they like they don't have to take any work home with them. They don't have to get, you know, work on their iPhone all the time.

1:07:52 They had no tariff. So the 10% was given away when he did that chart. And so then he does this new deal, goes off to the 90-day, backs off, but he keeps the 10%. The whole thing was about 10%. But he didn't want to start that way because that would be his negotiating posture from the get-go and he'd have to back off on it. So he negotiates by putting these... It was ridiculous. Then everybody got all bent out of shape, but the real goal was this 10%, which I think is what he's achieved. Which will be enough. It'll be enough for us. Yes, it'll be enough for starters. Some manufacturers will come back. Honda makes cars here already, and so does Toyota, Nissan. That's the hard part, is building up the manufacturing base, which is his ultimate goal.

1:08:44 And I've heard, I don't think I have any clips of it, but I've heard certainly pundits on the CNN and MSNBC and CNBC saying, well, this is the mistake he's making because Americans are stupid. They can't read above fifth grade level and they're lazy and they don't want to work. And I think that that is a very elitist view of the American people. Completely. I think that we are... All three of our daughters at some point are busing tables or tending bar. And they like it. They like the money, they like the tips, they like the hours, they like they don't have to take any work home with them. They don't have to get, you know, work on their iPhone all the time.

1:09:32 So I think that's... It's the iPhone again. Well, if I were a younger man today, let's say I was 30 back in my heyday, I would be making an American phone to rival the iPhone. It would be made of a cigar box, but I would be making an American phone. This is a golden opportunity. That's what people need to see. Now you can start... We have style problems. You know, we don't make the coolest looking cars. They basically all look like military stuff. Or just gay. I mean, that's kind of the two models we have. But... That's true. Gay. But this is the time. This is a golden opportunity. And instead everyone's fretting about the iPhone. Come on.

1:10:21 You can make a cool phone with open Android stock build. You can do it. You can do it. I know we can. We still... Do we make plastic here? We got plastics? The best plastic bakers are all in Taiwan. Well, that's good too. We can do... We're okay with Taiwan. We can do a deal with Taiwan. It's time that people get knocked off their high horse. And yes, Apple is top of the bill because they're arrogant. that's overpriced and they've psyoped everybody into thinking that you have to have this phone. It's only about the iPhone, this whole thing. It's only about the iPhone. That's all anybody can talk about. It's all anybody seems to care about. iPhone. Well, which brings us, if we're done with these tariff clips, it brings us to another round of smartphone discussion on NPR, which I've concluded

1:11:20 Because we had those clips on the last show from NPR. There's something going on at NPR. Is this Scott? No, no, it's not Scott. You gotta warn me. I don't think I have Scott on today's show. That's too bad because he's a staple. But somebody requested the Scott jingle for the... I saw that coming up. It'll be in the donation. Someone wants it for a jingle for the donation segment? It's a winner, I'm telling you! Scott's a winner. It's a winner for the show. So what is this? What is the deal with the phones? What do they have? I don't know. Where's these clips? Cell phone BS number one? That would be a yes.

1:12:12 You have to remember we just did a series of clips from NPR where they're spreading about the five and a half hours a day that people are spending on their phone, especially the host of whatever the show was, complaining to himself about it, being addicted to this phone. They can't get off this topic and so this is a whole new presentation and I'm thinking they really have some problems at NPR. They must be just on the phone all the time. And it found that we're interrupted by our smartphones every 13 minutes of our time awake. So what would it be like to just give it up?

1:12:51 August Lamb is an artist, an influencer, and an activist. And she published a couple of op-eds in the New York Times and The Guardian about hitting a breaking point with her smartphone. And so she made a bold move. She downgraded to a dumb phone. My smartphone, it represented my social life. and it also represented my work. And so it felt a bit like I was carrying around the office with me all day, and then the pressure to keep that up and to keep the attention on me in order to make money was ultimately too much for me to handle, and I just reached a breaking point. So going back to when you first made this switch, what were some of the things that surprised you the most?

1:13:35 It was really psychological. That's what surprised me is that there was the barrier of being bored and not knowing how to entertain myself. It wasn't about hobbies, it was about being in my own mind. And at that point, my thoughts were not very stimulating because I wasn't used to having them. Absolutely. She's right. She's right. Now this is what irks me about this presentation is I now two years into keeping the I've gone beyond this I don't think it's a smartphone that's the issue or a dumb phone like a flip phone you still have the phone. It's the apps and the notifications the apps give you. If you have the phone in a drawer which mine currently is

1:14:16 and it's in the drawer. I probably take it out, like if I have to do something recently, I had to go and use an Uber, so what am I gonna do? There's no way of getting an Uber without this damn phone. And so I took the phone out of the drawer, used it to get the Uber, used it to get back, and then I put the phone back in the drawer where it belongs. But I have to refer back to when I first did this. I talked about this on Horowitz a little bit. Because, and for one thing, I've been phone-less, I would call it that, phone-less. I don't take the phone as a navigator. I don't take the phone and put it in the car. I don't drive around with the phone. I've been phone-less for two years. I could have written these editorials. She's writing an edit, this unknown woman is writing an editorial for the New York Times and The Guardian about this and all she's done is just downgrade to a flip phone. Okay, that's a little, that's not going all the way the way I see it. But this happened to me and it,

1:15:13 Because what happened, I had a phone, I was using it like any normal person or abnormal person. Oh wait, we're hearing the Genesis of the drawer. Yeah. Okay. The Genesis of the drawer. Another Dvorak anecdote. I went to team... The Genesis of the drawer! I was using the cheap $30 a month T-Mobile plan. Which is no even before I went to the drawer I was always on a cheap plan as cheap as I could get and if I needed extra data or something I could buy it on the fly and so I found this cheap plan that T-Mobile had for 30 bucks and by the way

1:15:53 The current phone I now use, which is in the drawer, is a track phone and the max price is $15 a month. There you go. Nice. But I had the $30 plan for T-Mobile and it died on me and I couldn't renew it for some reason on the phone so I went to the T-Mobile store. So I go to the T-Mobile store and they got this idiot, he sets me up. He said, well, yeah, $30, here we give you this plan. He set me up and it turned out that when I got home, it was a data only plan. Which I didn't even know existed. So you couldn't make a call or text? I couldn't make a call. So this is a data only. So I called T-Mobile and they said, oh, well, yeah, well, you can come in for 45 bucks or something.

1:16:36 And I got so pissed off, I said screw these guys, I'm gonna find some other system. And I decided I was gonna move back to track phone or something super cheap. And metro cellular. But I put the drawer in the phone. And that and I never took it out. I never did any of this other stuff except to get it eventually get a track phone account for the Uber. Yes. And 15 bucks. And so it was T-Mobile that actually triggered this. And once I got it, the phone in the drawer and I was dry, you know, I'd go to the store and I didn't have the phone after a while.

1:17:12 It takes about a week or two, takes about two weeks before you realize that you don't need the phone on you all the time and in situations where you do need a phone. Somebody's got one and you can have them do the work for you. I mean, this was the dinner table conversations used to be, everyone had their phone and somebody wanted to look something up, I'd just tell, hey, look up this on your, you got your phone, I always said. You got your phone right there, look it up. And so people would always, you know, scatter to their phones and look stuff up and do that. I realized I didn't need this stupid phone with me. Okay, but there is one small point you're overlooking.

1:17:51 You yes, you go to you go out you go places, but you're not like most people who are out all day long and Need the phone. What do you need it for? For to be interrupted every 13 minutes apparently the thing so here an Apple is a big part of the problem this texting used to be great the Blackberry for me was the ultimate phone. It was a texting machine and You could text with two thumbs, it had a tactile... This is when you first got addicted. I want to say... No, no, no, no, stop. Okay, go ahead. I want to... Go ahead, Kara. I want more story.

1:17:12 It takes about a week or two, takes about two weeks before you realize that you don't need the phone on you all the time and in situations where you do need a phone. Somebody's got one and you can have them do the work for you. I mean, this was the dinner table conversations used to be, everyone had their phone and somebody wanted to look something up, I'd just tell, hey, look up this on your, you got your phone, I always said. You got your phone right there, look it up. And so people would always, you know, scatter to their phones and look stuff up and do that. I realized I didn't need this stupid phone with me. Okay, but there is one small point you're overlooking.

1:17:51 You yes, you go to you go out you go places, but you're not like most people who are out all day long and Need the phone. What do you need it for? For to be interrupted every 13 minutes apparently the thing so here an Apple is a big part of the problem this texting used to be great the Blackberry for me was the ultimate phone. It was a texting machine and You could text with two thumbs, it had a tactile... This is when you first got addicted. I want to say... No, no, no, no, stop. Okay, go ahead. I want to... Go ahead, Kara. I want more story.

1:18:30 I remember the Blackberry era, and there were all these guys with their Blackberry, and they're always texting on it. They're constantly on it. So I'm on a plane with a friend of mine who's a Blackberry nut. He's got this thing constantly. He's looking. It's not the same as today's phone where people are walking down the street. I saw a guy yesterday walking his dog, looking at the phone. The guy's gonna kill himself. Walking, wandering around with the dogs pulling wherever he wants. Because the guy's not even seeing where he's walking. So the BlackBerry guy, so the guy we flew and it was the BlackBerry had to be off on the flight and this guy got It was a three or four hour flight and as the flight continued you could see him getting more and more and more nervous and getting jittery. And so when we finally landed he jumped on that BlackBerry so fast it was like to see what the hell was going on because it was so important. He wasn't a doctor on call. I mean I don't get it. And so from then on I've always been very skeptical of these devices.

1:19:31 This is true what you're saying that's why they call it the crackberry and that probably did start a lot of the addiction But today I find the only thing you really need is the ability to text somebody I like being able to take a picture And I like being able to listen to podcasts. And I think it's handy to have some kind of GPS-like functionality because I am challenged. Above a thousand feet, I'm good. I just don't have this gene. I don't know what it is. Tina scoffs at me for it. I just can't. I'm not good at it.

1:20:07 You can't find your way around. I can't find my way around. But for now, I'm not talking about today's texting. I'm talking about just sending a message, not these long threads with people in groups and sending links. Well, hold on a second. I have to stop you. Did you find your way around when you're a little kid? No, but I got hopelessly lost. They had to come get me at the... I had to... like... Okay, so it's always been... I was... Could Adam's parents please come to the checkout? He's lost. That was me. Oh, okay. Well, because I think a lot of people are losing their sense of being able to find their way around. It doesn't get any better. Of course not. There's no practice. You don't, you know, of course, that's obvious, but I'm a 21st century man, so I need to have some kind of direction. But I'm fine with whatever's in my car. You know, I'm okay. It works fine enough.

1:20:59 So I am very, I have one on order, the Light Phone 3. I've tried the Light Phone 2. It had the right idea, but you couldn't really text. I just want to be able to send a text. And if someone sends me a link and a text, I'm not going to get it. It'll say there's a link to this, you can get that later on your computer. I think you are able to send a picture to somebody. But the limitation is important. It's important. That's why there's only 20 cigarettes in a pack. You know? It's like, you got to be out of them at a certain point. But it is a health crisis. And I'm happy that the people who are mainly responsible for all of this nonsense

1:21:43 Apple that they're gonna get dinged. Then, you know, just yes, I'm all for just a simple phone with text and phone and some, you know, I like to take a picture and if it has a hotspot that's even better. So if I really needed to hook up a computer, I can hook up a computer. Let's listen to the second of this clip because we're only through the first one in the series. It can only get better. pretty quiet or alternatively they're frightening because you haven't thought them for so long, you haven't dealt with any of your emotions. So it was an uncomfortable experience for me just being in my own mind and then as time went on my thoughts became a lot more interesting and stimulating and now I'll happily walk around for hours without headphones and just think. Was there a period in there though before that where you were really tempted to go back?

1:22:54 Oh, absolutely. I had a lot of stumbling blocks along the way. I was infuriated. It felt like I was in solitary confinement in my own mind. And I'm really glad that I pushed through that. I did also try an iPod for a while. I got an old iPod, but I don't need that anymore. So how has giving up your smartphone impacted your relationships? My relationships are stronger because when I'm actually spending time with these people in person, I'm fully present and I'm fully listening and I'm not waiting for the interaction to end so I can check my email again. You know, when you think about the current news environment, some people may feel anxious reading the news and knowing what's going on, but many people may feel anxious not knowing what's happening or a responsibility to stay informed. What would you say to someone who is maybe feeling cut off from what's happening around them without a smartphone? I think there's a health and a simplicity to reading things

1:23:55 that are collected and presented once in a while, not constantly, and not hearing about news the moment it happens before the questions are answered and before things are clarified. It's a health crisis. Where's Bobby the Op? It's a health crisis, these phones. Yeah, that's going to be low on the list. But it's, yeah, well, fluoride first. He's doing that. And then that's about time talk about overdue. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Last clip. It's a feeling of civic duty to check the news. And that can be a great excuse when you deep down just want entertainment and you don't want to be in reality. You want to you want to be you want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it. So I would just suggest get it. By the way, you could replace phone here for

1:24:52 cigarettes, crack, meth, alcohol, all of those apply. This is pure addiction and it's tailored for addiction. We know this. This is no secret. So, you know, what is NPR's problem? You want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it. So I would just suggest getting the newspaper or if you have to do it digitally, you know, getting one digital update, but not this endless scroll, not these sort of belligerent notifications about the news because it just makes it so you're never in one place. You're never in the place of reading the news and you're never in the place of

1:25:34 your actual circumstances, you're always in between. That's August Lamb. She's an artist, writer, and activist who recently published pieces in The Guardian and New York Times about giving up her smartphone. August, thank you so much for talking to me today. Yeah, thanks for having me. So I think what's going on here is you're just mad that they're getting this woman, this artist and activist, when they really should have been interviewing you. Well, you know what? Have you written this up? I'm a tech guy that doesn't use a smartphone. How does that work? It's much more interesting than some artist activist. I have told you what you're doing wrong. Now is the time. This is an exit strategy for you and for you only, and I would support it.

1:26:16 You need to become the tech grouch again. Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you and then of course you got to schlep around that outfit all over the place and you got to keep the voice going, iPhone, my phone, I got a Bakelite phone, it's fine. People will love you. They will glom on to the tech grouch. I'm working on it. I'm getting the green screen this week. There will be chicks in college with t-shirts. I love the tech grouch. Yes, yes, this is the direction you need to go. This is your third breath of life. Let's face it. Podcast thing is played, man. You got to go back to being the tech grouch. That was sexy. That was hot. People loved it.

1:25:34 your actual circumstances, you're always in between. That's August Lamb. She's an artist, writer, and activist who recently published pieces in The Guardian and New York Times about giving up her smartphone. August, thank you so much for talking to me today. Yeah, thanks for having me. So I think what's going on here is you're just mad that they're getting this woman, this artist and activist, when they really should have been interviewing you. Well, you know what? Have you written this up? I'm a tech guy that doesn't use a smartphone. How does that work? It's much more interesting than some artist activist. I have told you what you're doing wrong. Now is the time. This is an exit strategy for you and for you only, and I would support it.

1:26:16 You need to become the tech grouch again. Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you and then of course you got to schlep around that outfit all over the place and you got to keep the voice going, iPhone, my phone, I got a Bakelite phone, it's fine. People will love you. They will glom on to the tech grouch. I'm working on it. I'm getting the green screen this week. There will be chicks in college with t-shirts. I love the tech grouch. Yes, yes, this is the direction you need to go. This is your third breath of life. Let's face it. Podcast thing is played, man. You got to go back to being the tech grouch. That was sexy. That was hot. People loved it.

1:27:01 Well, the time is now. The time is right. The time is right. So, while we're on technology, by the way, I saw another CNBC, quantum, quantum, it's all quantum. Somebody was in the EU going on and on about one thing or another, and as soon as they dropped the word quantum, yeah, once we get to AI and then quantum. It's all quantum. You know that they don't know what they're doing. They're idiots. It's an idiot thing to say. It's all quantum. And so Amazon, arguably a very successful technology company with their Amazon Web Services, AWS, and every startup uses them. So they finally come out with their new Nova Sonic, Amazon's Nova Sonic. This is AI, it's AI for voice, it's AI

1:27:51 Well, they only really have one demo and one application and I'm going to play it in real time. I could have cut out the pauses, but that doesn't give you the full experience of the only thing AI so far is going to be good for, and I think it sucks, is call centers and help desks. Here is the big Amazon NovaSonic demo. Woo! Hi, is this any telco customer support? Hello, yes. This is Anytelco's customer support. Can you please provide your phone number so I can look up your account information? Um, sure, yeah. It's 510-123-4567. Listen to the pause in between. Thank you for providing your phone number. I've retrieved your account information. How can I assist you today? Why is my bill this high? It's ridiculous. How are you charging me this much?

1:28:47 I understand your concern about the high bill. Let's look into it. Your current bill is... At this point, don't you just want to rip your head off when you're talking? Like, what kind of human being can interact with this this way? This makes no... This is actually one of the better examples. AT&T uses a system. And they have the toot-a-loo-toot in between when it's thinking. Toot-a-loo-toot-a-loo-toot. No, no, it's just... I'm gonna have to record... You know, I've been told to do this, I'm going to have to get off the stick and do it, which is rig some of these phones of mine up. The landline. The landline! I had to rig these phones up so I can record these calls because some of these automated systems are so lame. It's like you can't afford some dollar an hour person in India, I mean, who can barely speak English, that would be better than this. Yeah, the true AI. Anonymous Indian, that's what we need.

1:29:50 Always name Steve. Steve. Actually, I got an interesting... What was this? Where was it? There was a TikTok ad. TikTok. I have a couple of TikTok. Yeah, good. I'm gonna set you up. First, I'm gonna play the clip, then I have something to read. Tick tock literally helped Danos grow from a one man show to 45 team members in Louisville, KY. There's no way I'd be able to support this building or any of my employees without Tick Tock. It's not just about me anymore. Tick Tock brings in so much foot traffic. To be able to have 28 employees and everybody's paid well, it's just a blessing.

1:30:39 It's a blessing. It's a blessing. So, um... There's more than a few of those ads out there. I've seen a bunch of them. We have a number of producers who are inside the TikTok ecosystem and they received an email from TikTok. Subject line, this plays on something we talked about on the last show. Important De Minimis announcement for TikTok shop. What? De Minimis? De Minimis, yes. You know it will explain de minimis. I don't know the explanation, it's just a dumb phrase that's used for some reason or other. Well de minimis is the under $800 packages that now... Oh that's right, it was talked about that Trump dropped these de minimis things. Yes. Hello TikTok shop sellers! We want to ensure you're informed of the changes to the de minimis exemption for goods originating from certain countries.

1:31:33 What is the de minimis exception? Exemption. And then it has a link. Currently exempt shipments valued at or under $800 USD from tariffs. What changed? The US government announced plans to remove de minimis treatment for products from China. including Hong Kong effective May 2nd, 2025. What does this mean? Well, when the de minimis exemption is removed from a country's goods, duties will be applicable to all impacted shipments regardless of value and additional supporting documentation may be required to import previously exempt goods into the U.S. What happens now? Sellers should continue to ensure they are familiar with all requirements for importing goods into the U.S. We are actively monitoring these developments. We'll keep you informed.

1:32:16 So, there they got problems. This whole operation was based on that. And I saw this morning the Andrew New York Times character was interviewing the CEO of Amazon. I wish I'd clipped it. He said, so how about your bid for TikTok? And he says, we never said we bid for TikTok. He said, well, it was reported. He said that was reported. So he's pretending like they didn't bid on it now. I thought it was interesting. Oh, they're bailing out. Might be. Might be. Yeah, there's the minimus thing, maybe the, uh, well, besides being a $50 minimum, which really screws stuff because before you could just buy something for eight bucks and it'd show up in the mail in three or four days. Yeah. Uh, yeah. This is huge. Amazon is their big deal is we're going to sell you drugs.

1:33:05 Pharmacy. Pharmacy is what it's all about. Yeah, that's the last place I want to get it. No, the every... Hey, if... The CEO said, if you're not feeling well, it's great to get your medicine, your meds, within a few hours. You don't want to have to go to Walmart or CVS. You want to get it delivered to your home, you sick person. So I've run into, I only have two clips from TikTok, but they are, they're short. One is only 10 seconds. I have one too, but I'll wait until yours are done. Minor thematic, these are women with grievances. Ooh, okay. Toward everybody it seems to me. It's just women with, they exist against men. It's like, it's either lesbians and some sort of guys

1:33:54 or I'm not absolutely sure what's causing this, but the first one is the dinner one. Let's play that. Let me just go ahead and get this out there right now. If a man ever looks at me and says, hey babe, what's for dinner? And like means it, like assumes I'm in charge of dinner, what's for dinner? Divorce. That's what's for dinner. That's just engagement farming. She's not gonna divorce anybody. She's not gonna get married. Not if she doesn't cook. And here's another one. This is a single mom with a bunch of kids who is now putting demands on who she's gonna date. These are the requirements that you need to have in order to date me, a single mom of three kids.

1:34:38 number one is that you need to be making at least 130k a year and you need to have at least two side hustles if you cannot make 130k or more then you are out of my fucking league how do you expect to give me money for my kids if you only make 50k a year second is i don't date men that are younger than me because for obvious reasons so if you are 26 and over then you qualify 26 to 35 is the age limit okay I feel like 35 is pushing it because they look old as fuck already well I'm 26 I'm a baby so yeah You have to have at least three cars under your name. Your second car has to have eight seats because I have three kids. So I want them to be comfortable whenever we go with you on a trip or something, you want me to come with you, I'm gonna bring my kids and you need to have enough space for my kids. So that's why I require you to have an SUV and a vehicle of your own if you're gonna be dating me. Another requirement is that you have to have

1:35:33 a property under your name and you have to be looking into getting your second property. You have to get a home that has six rooms because I got kids. Each of my kids have to be in their own room. So you have to be considerate. Purchase a house that has six rooms because that's only common sense like and if you cannot meet those requirements then you're not the fucking one. Last requirement is that it has to be pink. If it's not pink, pink and brown go together. Pink and brown like what? Dua Linh, you know? Well, this is very sad. This is what happens with women like this and it happens with men too. But with women like this, they are on the TikTok and they're constantly getting barraged with DMs. Hey baby, hey baby, let's hook up. Because that is the entire culture of the phone and social media. And she's, you know, now she thinks that that's real and that these people don't just want to hook up with her.

1:36:29 and reenact some OnlyFans fantasy. So she thinks that she's now popular and that she can make these demands and that that's actually going to work out for her. This is very sad. It's a very sad state of affairs. And I heard yesterday that 80 million, no, it was like 68 million men in America have an OnlyFans account, which I don't think includes you because your phone's in the drawer. Yeah. But this doesn't include but this is a plague. This is a wait. I got another stat Supposedly I heard this just the other day 10% of all women between the ages of 18 and 25 are only fans women. There's millions of them Yeah, I believe it. I believe it. So 10% of the women out there are on only fans stripping and

1:37:24 And then you have all these guys that are with these accounts. Yeah. This is not healthy. Why are we wasting our time podcasting? You could be telling the tech grouch to take his pants off. This is your agency. Tech grouch. Yeah. All right. I have a TikTok clip which is This is baffling, baffling, but this is under my heading of delusional Dems. Well, there are rumblings all over the media now that on April 20th, Trump will declare martial law, which effectively means the military takes over for the police. Free speech becomes illegal. Protests become illegal. You have to have the permission of the military to do anything. And worse than that, the commander in chief, Trump, can do basically anything he wants.

1:38:10 Literally, okay? We may be looking at the end of American democracy and we have 13 days left. Okay, here's my point. Please prepare your family for the worst. The other rumor is that they're going to seize all the guns So if you have a gun you want to keep it you might want to bury it in your backyard Stock up on food. Please stop spending money. You don't have to spend you may need it Okay, if he shuts everything down, you're gonna need some cash. You're gonna need something. Okay, please prepare your family for the worst and hope for the best This is the first I heard of it, but I guess the rumors out there. But what was crazy is here in the hill country, in Little Fredericksburg, all of a sudden we got the phones blowing up, everybody's going crazy. Oh, have you heard about this? The Muslims are coming! In 402 acres of beautiful scenery, welcome to the future of living.

1:39:02 Welcome to Epic City. In promotional videos, Epic City is a collection of single and multifamily homes and commercial developments surrounding a mosque and school. Epic City is more than just a neighborhood. It's a way of life. But last month, online, Governor Abbott raised the rumor of Sharia law playing a part. State Rep Jeff Leach wrote a letter asking the Attorney General to investigate and EPIC responded to the governor online saying, our vision is to build a diverse, safe and inclusive community and will follow all local, state and federal laws.

1:38:10 Literally, okay? We may be looking at the end of American democracy and we have 13 days left. Okay, here's my point. Please prepare your family for the worst. The other rumor is that they're going to seize all the guns So if you have a gun you want to keep it you might want to bury it in your backyard Stock up on food. Please stop spending money. You don't have to spend you may need it Okay, if he shuts everything down, you're gonna need some cash. You're gonna need something. Okay, please prepare your family for the worst and hope for the best This is the first I heard of it, but I guess the rumors out there. But what was crazy is here in the hill country, in Little Fredericksburg, all of a sudden we got the phones blowing up, everybody's going crazy. Oh, have you heard about this? The Muslims are coming! In 402 acres of beautiful scenery, welcome to the future of living.

1:39:02 Welcome to Epic City. In promotional videos, Epic City is a collection of single and multifamily homes and commercial developments surrounding a mosque and school. Epic City is more than just a neighborhood. It's a way of life. But last month, online, Governor Abbott raised the rumor of Sharia law playing a part. State Rep Jeff Leach wrote a letter asking the Attorney General to investigate and EPIC responded to the governor online saying, our vision is to build a diverse, safe and inclusive community and will follow all local, state and federal laws.

1:39:38 And the resident scholar at Epic acknowledged the noise. You're probably aware that on social media there's a lot of negative campaigns against our particular masjid, Epic, because of our project, Epic City, right? And a lot of the far right are riling up hatred. Now this week Abbott and Paxton announced a dozen state agencies are investigating the proposed development, alleging serious legal issues. The Texas Funeral Commission sent a cease and desist letter alleging illegal funeral services at the East Plano Islamic Center. And the governor on X writing, this is the tip of the iceberg. The proposed community will never see the light of day.

1:40:21 Representatives for Epic City could not be reached for comment on Thursday, but last month invited the governor to see the site and maybe some barbecue to learn more about the project. So I'm baffled by this. Barbecue is a lot of pork. I'm baffled by this because this Epic community which is 74 homes built near a big mosque, I will add that, has been there for 12 years. This is nothing new. But the mosque there the mosque is there is okay. I have a video they have a video. Oh It's epic. We're gonna build this great Sharia law, which they don't say in their video But that's what's being said, but I think what's happening here is you have where is this? Plano Plano questions Plano Plano Plano, Texas. Oh, that's north of Dallas. That's not a nowhere near you No, of course not

1:41:14 But it was all said, but that's where Ross Perot used to be in Plano. Yeah, they're all upset, but it's like I think Ken Paxton, he is now launching his senatorial race and I think is Abbott up for re-election? I don't know. This reeks of nonsense. Oh, I see. You think it's just political crap. Yeah, yeah. It is. That makes sense. It is. But it's like all of a sudden this storm, like we have nothing. Look at your own town. We got a lot of stuff going on here. Don't worry about Plano. Let Plano worry about Plano. Well, it's gonna be Sharia law. So? Sharia law. That doesn't supersede US law if they want to do certain things based on their religion and do whatever they want. As long as they don't stone anybody. Yeah, and don't break the law, that's fine. But everyone's all upset about it. It's the phones, man. It's the phones. They're no good.

1:42:13 Yeah, I'm a very anti phone. I ran into an oddball clip. This is from Tucker He's had some interesting people on recently. Yeah, he's getting some screen. He's got a new book or something. He's getting all kinds Yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my call. I think I should be on Tucker. I don't know. Yes I'm the inventor of podcasting. Yeah, you are but I don't know what to do I just don't see you and Tucker actually. You know, I can see you and Beck getting along famously. In fact, Beck thinks you're his brother. Until I didn't want to work on Fridays for him. Then all of a sudden I didn't get called. He'll get you back on if you actually wanted to go on. And then I can see you and Rogan because Rogan's kind of a, you know, you and him, I can see that working out. But Tucker and I, we got Jesus in common, man. I don't see why there's a connection right there.

1:43:09 I don't think it's the same Jesus. Is it a different Jesus? Could be. Okay. So Tucker brought on the guy who is one of the executives at Budweiser and the whole thing is a very good interview because the guy has nothing but stories to tell. Oh, this is about the woke stuff and how they... About the woke stuff and all the rest of it. But, and they're talking about Dylan Milvaney and how they screwed that up. And the guy who runs the Budweiser division They talk about him a little bit and the fact that nobody got fired over the Dylann Mulvaney thing and the huge billions of dollars in losses and they haven't been able to recover, they still haven't. But then Tucker discusses the guy who is the division CEO of Anheuser-Busch, this ex-CIA guy, and he makes some generalities about CEOs that I thought was

1:44:03 I never heard this before from him or anybody else, but now that he mentions it, I thought this was a pretty good analysis. And it starts off with the other guy talking a little bit about how the situation fell apart. And then Tucker goes into his little diatribe. And so all of a sudden, the company actually, its sales declined even more. And funny enough- Is he still there? He's still there, which is crazy. Everyone is still there. There's been zero accountability for this, despite the fact- I don't understand. I don't know the guy, I've met him and talked to him, former CIA guy. Former CIA guy. He told me, right. Extremely physically fit.

1:44:39 As most- Big CrossFit guy. Most CEOs I've met, and particularly the more disconnected from manufacturing they are, the more finance oriented they are, the better physical condition they're in. Just cut jawlines, all played lacrosse at Middlebury. They're always on- The guy looks like G.I. Joe. 100%. I'm not against physical fitness. I could use a little more myself. But that doesn't seem like a relevant criterion if you're choosing a CEO and yet every... Larry Fink is kind of pudgy, so I'm on his side for that. It feels like whoever's doing the hiring here is doing it based on appearance and these are white people mostly so it's not DEI exactly but it is a form of DEI. Like why? Like that guy seemed like every other CEO I've met in the last 10 years. Vapid, afraid, completely terrified. You could smell the fear on the guy. Obsessed with his physical appearance.

1:45:31 And totally lacking creativity. Are those fair descriptions? That was just my reaction from spending an evening with him. That's amazing. I mean, you spent one evening with him. I spent, I don't know, I've known Brendan for 10 years, 15 years. I'm not saying he's like a terrible person. I'm sure, you know, I don't know that, but he is definitely, and I hate to single him out, though, he's a former CIA guy, which should be disqualifying right there, but, oh, I'm sorry, but like, he seemed emblematic of an entire class of people who, in my pretty extensive experience around them, are deeply unimpressive. The reason this kind of got my attention is because I know some people that are high-end individuals that have made the same observation about especially the fear thing. He says a lot of companies are run by guys who are just, everything is based on fear. Yeah.

1:46:26 And everything, you know, it's not, they don't, they're not positive people, they're reactive. And the CEO's class of America seems to be people, which what Carlson says, he's run into a bunch of them, I'm sure he has, that are just this fear-based, lousy, uncreative group of people that are running the country. Yes. Well, I just thought it was an interesting observation. I would say that's correct. No argument for me. What happened? Well, I don't know what happened. You know, all these... What happened is cheap stuff from China is what happens. That's why we get all these big mega companies with a lot of middle management. I don't know.

1:47:20 I want to go back to simpler times, John. I found it depressing that there's this observation of Tucker's. Yeah, I think he's not wrong. But everyone should just be podcasting and cleaning each other's house and be great. We'll have a good time. So this was a very disturbing report, not just for the nurses involved, but for the total lack of awareness of what's happened in our world, particularly in the last five years. She's a long-time nurse at Newton Wellesley Hospital who didn't want to reveal her identity. But she's speaking out after being diagnosed with a brain tumor and says she's not alone among her nursing colleagues. It's getting to the point where the number just increases and you start saying,

1:48:05 Am I crazy thinking this? This can't just be a coincidence. She claims as many as 10 nurses who all work on the fifth floor maternal care ward have been diagnosed with different brain tumors over the last few years, some cancerous, some not. Three, she says, have had surgery and believes the hospital has not been supportive enough. We want reassurance because this has been a not reassuring past few months for a lot of staff members. And we just want to feel safe. the same way we want to make our patients feel safe. The hospital confirms it has been investigating since December and has interviewed 10 nurses, 6 of whom it says have differing brain tumors. But the hospital also says no risk factors have been found linking these cases to that fifth floor. In a statement, the hospital says it conducted a CDC-guided investigation and shared the results.

1:48:57 The investigation found no environmental risks which could be linked to the development of a brain tumor. The State Department of Public Health says it is also looking into the cases while nurses are calling for an independent investigation. I think the concern is we don't know what it is. and nurses are scared, they're worried, and they want to make sure they're not working in an unsafe place. I think the nurses should be the first people because we're the ones that brought it to their attention to be told. And we feel like we've been the last to be informed on anything. If there is a connection here, their search for answers is far from over.

1:49:35 So sad about this. Yeah, this is a great story. It's been floating around and they can't they haven't got a clue No idea what could have happened And they're like well could it be environmental on the fifth floor could it just be that is it something in the walls? But no one points out the obvious Safe and effective is what I want to point out. It's just you know I was thinking that might be frustrating Why would it just be this one ward? I mean if it would that be hospital wide oh I think it's because they just happen to have this one one ward, and they're just focusing everybody on it Don't look over here look at the fifth floor. I I don't trust any of this reporting So you think the reporting is flawed of course?

1:50:21 Then we go to CBS who had a fascinating report which is surprising for a number of reasons. This is about COVID. Five years ago today at the beginning of the pandemic, Johns Hopkins reported that more than 400,000 people in the US had come down with COVID and nearly 15,000 had died. Two months later, our Dr. John LePoucq was among the first to report that COVID is spread through the air. In tonight's Eye on America, Dr. LePoucq introduces you to a new weapon against airborne diseases, COVID, bird flu, and many more. Oh, we've got something now! It's bad enough bird flu has rocked the dairy industry and infected 70 people in the United States. But there's a bigger concern. A pandemic in humans. As we have human infections with these avian viruses, a random mutation might emerge that is more fit in a human. So there you go. University of Pennsylvania researcher Scott Hensley has been studying bird flu for 15 years. And if that mutation would arise,

1:51:21 then we fear the virus might be able to transmit human to human. Through the air? Through the air, yeah. That's the fear. As far as we know, that has not happened yet. But if it does, a new technology is waiting in the wings. It's called Far-UVC. Far-UVC. Does that sound familiar? Well, not to me, but at least not yet. It will. It will. Play another clip. See these far UVC lamps? They emit a type of light that can kill microscopic germs floating in the air. Columbia University physicist David Brenner explained these lights work by damaging the genes of disease-causing microbes. Brenner's initial main target has been seasonal flu, but that could change. UV light really doesn't care about the details of whether it's a bad

1:52:11 bacteria or virus, it can kill all of them essentially. In contrast, the shorter wavelength far UVC is safer because it can't penetrate the tear layer of the eye or the top layers of skin. The CDC says far UVC is promising, but more research is needed. One reason David Brenner, an advisor to a manufacturer of UVC lamps, set up a UVC laboratory. This is an experimental room that simulates real life.

1:52:49 That's a far UVC lamp. They can control all sorts of conditions here, humidity, airflow. They can also measure the amount of virus in the air before and after they turn on the far UVC lamp. I'd say the development has been slow and steady. Journalists and doctors all of them have somehow forgotten how in 2020 President Trump was mocked endlessly for this. A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light,

1:53:31 And I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're gonna test that too. Sounds interesting. Do you remember how they laughed and laughed and laughed? Oh, crazy Trump with his UV lamp. Oh, that was so silly. That's so crazy. Somehow they forgot to report that. Yeah, I see. Yeah, I'm just, I just, you know, but I have a long memory of these things. And so now they're doing the same. They're getting... Well, bleach will be up next. Bleach, if you drink bleach, it's all gonna be good. Hey, with that I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the UVC lamp. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister for cell phone in a drawer, John C. DeWalt.

1:54:27 Yeah, well in the morning you and Mr. Adam Curry in the morning our ship's seat boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. And all the day was a night's out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, stop moving around let me count you for a second. It's kind of the new normal. 1907, 1907 trolls listening along to the No Agenda Show, listening live, which is better than most studio audiences, let me tell you that. Because of course we've been doing this for more than 17 years and we've seen it all, people. More than once. Yes. Did we even have, when we started the show, there was barely smartphones.

1:55:08 I think we just had the iPhone 1, if I'm not mistaken. No, when was the year that we started? 2007. Well that would be iPhone year. I remember because I remember that Chris Jacob bought one for me in San Francisco and I took it back to the UK and I was like, oh what is that? And I had the iPhone. On that iPhone you couldn't copy or paste. That was the funniest thing. And then I had had it only three days and I dropped it in the toilet. Oh I remember the toilet story. Yeah, you bent over to flush the toilet and it came out of your pocket or something and fell in and you dug it out. Yes, and then I put it into kitty litter. I tried all kinds of things and it never came back to life. It was a sad day in techno world. Yeah, so curious. I've never owned an iPhone. No, and I'll never own one. I've sworn off all Apple products because you can't trust them.

1:56:11 Can't trust them. They can't, and not for any use that is to me, useful to me, like USB. Like you can't trust them with USB, those guys. It doesn't matter. That's my problem. Oh, and by the way, please, please, every single time we talk about Linux and I say I can't use it for my professional audio setup, there's a... No, yeah, you can. You know, did you try wine? Did you try this? Did you try that? Hey, man, Jack, you can use Jack and you can route it all. and then it worked. No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Stop it, please. And I'll say no, I've tried it. I'm looking like, no man, you could set it up. You could hire some guys to do it. Okay. How about I just use a crappy Windows box? It just works. I use Linux Mint for all my other stuff.

1:57:00 It's not a question of the Linux, but it's the drivers. It's always the drivers anyway. This is a Delight to do this show to do it live we stream it live troll room IO is where you can join in if you want to troll along and listen live or you can use a modern podcast app many of them Receive the bat signal alerts you oh, there's yet another alert you need on your phone, but you need it for this You need to know when we're going live. And there's no video, you just listen. Just so you can do other things. You can be smiling, laughing out loud. People think you're just having a good time at work and we all know you're not. And you listen to the NOA Agenda Show. And with that modern podcast app, you get all kinds of extra features like the artwork. We have chapters with artwork that Dreb Scott puts together for us. And we are blessed by an entire community of artists

1:57:49 who is a part of our value for value model are happy to contribute some time and talent of the three Ts, which includes treasure, to help support the show, to make it look good so we always have some fresh art. It's good in the podcast app, looks great when we promote the show, it's great for the newsletter, and there's just more fun to be had looking at those chapters, even in the car. They change per topic and it gives you an extra jolt of humor. And we're going to thank the artist for episode 1753, we called that one Local Jamoche. Was that easy, choosing a piece? No, this was a bad series. Again, of course, I blame the show. Yeah, it's always our fault. It is our fault because if we don't have something that triggers

1:58:38 artists to come up with ideas if there's no triggering mechanism, then they can't come up with ideas. And then whose fault is that? It's our fault. It's our fault. Yes. But Nesworks did a yeoman's job and he came up with a can of dirt, organic dirt, eat dirt. It's all you can afford. And we appreciate that Nesworks. And that is not AI, I guarantee you. There's less and less AI, interestingly, it seems to me. Or the AI's gotten really good. Maybe. I don't think so. Let's see what else. There was another dirt that we looked at. There was Tantaniel's dirt, imported dirt for poor people. For me it was close between those two. I like the tariffs on penguins piece but you hated it to such an extreme it didn't even get into the play. I wouldn't say I hated anything. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

1:59:32 This was Triple J's piece. It just looked washed out and when you embiggened it, the Noah Jendel letters were just kind of floating. They weren't even on the penguin, you know, piece of ice that they were on. It looked washed out. Yeah, it was a little washed out. It was washed out. Let me see. Oh, yeah. D of NC. We didn't think the Ku Klux Klan with the burning Tesla cross was going to work So just we thought that might be taking it. That was not a good No, and we weren't it's the same as the gummy Jesus But if you did that just to make us laugh, okay I personally liked I don't know why I like scare mangas save the bees that just I thought it was a cute piece and you hated it with a vengeance you just

2:00:19 I didn't hate it with a vengeance, I just thought it was boring. Yeah, boring. And the hey hey ho ho MAGA hat, I thought that was kind of cute. Yeah, again, it was not, it was just too plain. Everybody loved the idea of the book that helps you get rid of your phone addiction. It's a holo book and you put your phone in it. And a number of artists came up with some concepts, but I also got people sending me links to manufacturers who make these kinds of things that I forwarded to you. Yeah, I know I got it. Napko, whatever the company has. Have you ordered anything yet? I haven't ordered anything. I'm looking at their... I'm gonna get a hold of them to see if they can even do the... Yeah, I ordered stuff. Order what? They don't make holo books, but it's a possibility that they can. It's another great idea. I mean, I come up with ideas. We get the Podfather Awards. You're the idea man. I'm the idea man and you're the execution man. Yeah. Which means... Which means I execute most of these ideas.

2:01:22 People we're just gonna be we're gonna wind up dying I like the morning coffee one with the dog at the microphone. It was alright. It was alright. It was alright It's just something funny about a dog podcasting We love the value for value model for so many different reasons, mainly because we don't have to have meetings with advertisers. That was the original impetus for not doing that. But also you get to value the podcast at the amount that you think it's worth and that's a very fair system. And to close the loop, we always thank people and at $50 or above, we tell you who it is.

2:02:01 how much money they supported us with, and we have a special moment here in the show where we give an extra benefit to people who came in with more money than usual, $200 or above. You get the title of Associate Executive Producer and we read your note, and that title is a Hollywood credit. You can use it anywhere Hollywood credits are accepted and recognized, including imdb.com. $300 or above, you become an Executive Producer and once again we read your note. And we're gonna kick it off with Anthony LaF... Yes? I was gonna do something before. Oh, what were you gonna do? Hello? A couple of... whoops. What are you doing? I had to reach for this paper. I wanted to thank a couple more people from the No Agenda meetup. Oh, from the meetup. Did you forget that on the last show? No, I thanked most of them, but I didn't thank Violet, the little cutie. The trap baby? Well, she's now older. I think five maybe. Unfortunately, I don't know her.

2:02:59 I don't know about you, but little kids, they like their age to be exact. Yes, yes. Five and a half, four and a half, you know that kind of thing. Yes, four and nine months. She gave me a sweatshirt, a hoodie with a Pizzeria Violetta's logo on it and a nice and a big logo on the back. Oh Not very nice piece. She comes over with a little bag and gives it. Oh your mom. You're a sucker You're a sucker for kids, aren't you? You just love the toddlers. The kids are great. And so the other one I the other person I want to thank was Sir Lawrence of dystopia. I forgot to thank him He did donate money, but he also gave me a gift Mm-hmm. And so and then

2:03:50 And the gift was, it was the wildest bottle of Johnny Walker blue that I've ever seen. It was the blue. The bottle itself has been completely redone. That's top-notch stuff, isn't it? It's the best product. It's the best stuff, yeah. Wow. And it came in a package that was like a purse of some sort. It was like a puffy jacket made out of that material. And it could be turned inside out and had It's so ridiculous. I don't know what this comes from. The bottle itself has been changed. It's got a different label. It's got stuff printed all over the bottle. It's such a collectible. I'm not sure what to do with it. I'm not sure what it... Drink it. Drink it on the show.

2:04:35 I don't drink when I'm doing this show. But it's such a collectible. I'd like to know the backstory on this particular package. That is a nice gift. And how are you going to send me my half of that? I'm going to pour off half of it into a flask. I'm sorry, it was a birthday gift. I forgot. No, that's valid. It's a birthday gift. Oh, no, I'll send you half anyway. No. It'll be in a flask. And I'll put the flask in the mail and you'll get it probably within the next couple years. Okay. Excellent. I'm looking forward to that. Or later. But I'm just stunned by this product, the packaging itself, the presentation. I'd like to know more. That's the point I'm making. All right. Onward. By the way, we know we had a kind of spooky visitor at your birthday party. I also got one of those challenge coins.

2:05:34 I didn't get a challenge coin, I got a patch. Oh, I got a challenge coin. You only got a patch? You went to the meetup and you got a patch and I got the challenge? No, the patch came through the mail. I didn't get a challenge coin at the meetup. Oh, oh. That spooky person sent me, of the same thing, a challenge coin. Oh. Of the camp, the special camp. Yeah, the camp. Yeah. The camp, quote unquote. Anthony Laferla is in Minneapolis, Minnesota. $500, thank you very much Anthony. He says, Commodore Centerlight rejoice in what time we have weaving words into the air. My utmost appreciation for you both. So he will be a Commodore today. Oh, excellent. Kevin Drasich in Brentwood, California, Ritzy area.

2:06:29 Uh, thanks fellas. I like the U-T-O-H ISO. Not O. What ISO? What ISO is that? I'm not sure. You guys should use it more often. Uh-oh? I don't know what he means. I want to help him, but I don't know what he means. It could mean Utah, Ohio? I don't think. No. I don't know what... We don't have an uh-oh. Reposting, moving and jobs karma. You need some... I'm sorry, requesting and moving and jobs karma. Leaving the failed state of California and headed to Vancouver, Washington, which is $333.33.

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2:07:54 So we do have an I'd one night that came in with it with a no late No, it was that that did not come to my spreadsheet. Yeah, Andrew. Yeah, he's moved to Sunday. Yeah, he's Andrew It will be well PPT sir PPT you're already a night. So let me know if there's something you needed but happy to oblige We break for nights you do Another note comes in from Pharaoh in Athens. Yes, it's Charles, Charles our buddy Charles with the lard cream. Ah yes, that's 33333. And he wrote a note in with his letterhead. In the morning John.

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2:10:54 I know her. Wife of Sir Tony of Chicago as a belated birthday gift. Kate hit me in the mouth a few months ago when I found your deconstruction of M5M et al informing and hilarious. I'd love some job karma for Kate and a de-douching for me. You've been de-douched. Sincerely, The Darth Penguin of Locktucky behind enemy lines in the Democratic Republic of Killinoys. Keep up the amazing work, gentlemen. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You saw karma. So the story behind Totally Not Serial Killer Kate is she would be under a different name, would be sending me messages on Telegram.

2:11:42 And then all of a sudden she somehow was sending Tina a message and I said, she says, do you know this person? I don't know, but it could be a serial killer. So be careful what you answer. And it turns out she's totally not a serial killer. So that's good. Well, that's good to know. That's good. We're happy about that. Glenn Bukowski in Orlando, Florida is not one either. He's $300 in. Some months ago, he writes, Chris, Sir Valera? Sir Valera sounds right. Yeah. Call me out on an executive producer note for not donating in a while. Please de-douche me. Also give me some baby making karma. Chris and his smoking hot girlfriend. Oh, two of them.

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2:19:32 You know, the oil baron was already saying this is not happening. And now Reuters is writing reports about it. US oil producers face new challenges as top oil field flags. They're not getting the oil out that they used to. Remember peak oil was a joke? It seems like they're kind of getting there. Like they're now only getting 65 or 70% of the oil out of these shale drills. The Permian Basin is not pumping what it used to. 6.5 million barrels per day, nearly half the all-time high of 13.5, and they are not drilling new wells. They're just not. Well, if everybody brings their—OPEC brings their prices down to nothing, down below 60, who cares? Well, we do—keep talking in the mic because you're drifting.

2:20:26 I haven't changed anything. I'm fine. Check my volumes, check my levels. Your levels are low. Potted me up. Your levels are low, man. But of course we have solutions to our energy and that comes in the form of beautiful clean coal. I call it beautiful clean coal. I tell my people never use the word coal unless you put beautiful clean before it. Right, Doc? So we call it beautiful clean coal. Beautiful clean coal. So today, thank you. Today we're taking historic action to help American workers, miners, families and consumers. We're ending Joe Biden's war on beautiful clean coal once and for all. And it wasn't just Biden, it was Obama and others. But we're doing the exact opposite.

2:21:16 Actually, there were a couple of executive orders he signed. Just keeps on going. There's a short rundown of them as he was signing them. We have four items prepared for your signature this afternoon, sir. The first of these executive orders is maybe one of the most significant executive orders of your administration thus far. This directs all departments and agencies of the federal government to end all discriminatory policies against the coal industry. This ends the leasing moratorium that prevents new coal projects on federal land, and it's going to accelerate all permitting and funding for new coal projects to allow the coal industry to flourish under your leadership, sir. Sir, there are currently dozens of coal plants in America that are in imminent danger of being forced to close based on unscientific and unrealistic policies enacted by the Biden administration. What we're going to do is essentially impose a moratorium on those policies taking effect

2:22:16 to protect coal plants that are currently operating to ensure that they're able to continue producing power and continue providing jobs to Americans in the coal industry. Sir, you've made grid reliability and security a key focus of this administration. This executive order is going to promote grid security and reliability by ensuring in part that our grid policies are focused on secure and effective energy production and energy transmission as opposed to woke policies that discriminate against secure sources of power like coal and other fossil fuels. So the coal is going to help. I mean, that's good, isn't it? That should bring down energy prices in general.

2:23:00 Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Coal works and it's clean and it's beautiful. It's good. It's beautiful. Oh, it looks like a helicopter went down in New York City in the river. In the river. Well, this didn't happen downtown. Well, they're dead. That's not good. He had signed one other executive order for the new ambassador of Israel and made quite a funny remark So the Senate confirmed governor Huckabee to be your next ambassador to Israel earlier today That's his his commission as ambassador, and then we also have a transit a transmittal letter to the president of Israel Requesting that he accept governor Huckabee's or excuse me ambassador Huckabee's credentials. He's gonna be fantastic. I

2:23:44 He's gonna bring home the bacon. You know, bacon isn't too big in Israel. I had to clear that up. He caught himself. He did. Before the news media makes fun of me, I might as well do it myself. Yeah, that was good. That was good. Funny. I like a funny president. Did you hear about the, remember that nut job who tried to assassinate the president at Mar-a-Lago? Yeah, that guy. So, you know, we don't hear anything about any of these, you know, I don't know what is, what is Pam Bondi doing? Oh, we got 500 million, billion dollars worth of drugs and she's running around with cash. But I'd still like to know more about these assassination attempts and where does that really come from? And this is the,

2:24:36 It's that crazy guy who also showed up in Ukraine, helping out the Ukrainians. And this is a new report. Ryan Wesley Ruth, the man arrested for trying to assassinate President Trump at his Mar-a-Lago golf course in September, tried to buy a rocket launcher from a Ukrainian contact with Trump's plane The court documents reveal Ruth sent a photo of Trump's plane to a Ukrainian associate and wrote in a message, Trump's plane, he gets on and off daily. In messages sent just one month before his arrest at Mar-a-Lago, Ruth said,

2:25:17 Send me an RPG, rocket propelled grenade or stinger and I will see what we can do. Trump is not good for Ukraine. Ruth allegedly asked the associate about the price of the weapon and if it could be shipped and said, I need equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, according to prosecutors. He also said of the rocket, those items lost and destroyed daily and one missing would not be noticed. The DOJ says Ruth also discussed the assassination attempt at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania, to which Ruth allegedly said, I wish, through an encrypted messaging app.

2:26:00 In the DOJ's filing, prosecutors say attempting to purchase a destructive device to blow up President Trump's airplane lies squarely within the realm of an attempt on his life. And Ruth's statement about the purpose of the purchase, that he needs equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, drives home his intent. I wonder if that was part of that. Remember there was a couple of news reports Like, oh, ISIS or they have Stingers, they're gonna shoot the plane out of the sky. Do you remember that during the campaigning process? That doesn't come to mind, but I'm sure it was. Could have been. Yeah. This guy was a complete lunatic. Yeah, I guess. But I think the other stories, even the other guy, that guy that looks like Elizabeth Warren, the guy who tried to shoot

2:26:54 Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania is the more interesting story. We don't know anything about that group. But the family... Eight cell phones or all these cell phones he had. I think Ruth had a bunch of cell phones too. I don't understand why we can't... What's going on here that they can't tell us more. No, we need to know basis. No, instead we get important stories, John. Very important stories. important stories like this one. Michelle Obama is putting to bed rumors that she and the former president are divorcing. Now is the time for me to start asking myself these hard questions of who do I truly want to be every day? Speaking on actress Sophia Bush's podcast, Mrs. Obama, now 61, spoke about her newfound independence.

2:27:47 The speculation about her marriage grew in January when former President Obama showed up solo to President Trump's inauguration and to Jimmy Carter's funeral. We start actually finally like going, what am I, what am I doing? You know, who am I doing this for? Um, yeah. And if it doesn't fit into the sort of stereotype of what people think we should do, then it gets labeled as something negative and horrible. She was in Hawaii on vacation during Carter's funeral and she says she chose not to attend the Trump inauguration. She says not being tied to political life and with her daughters now grown, she has more time for herself. They couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself, that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing.

2:28:36 You know, that this couldn't be a grown woman just making a set of decisions for herself. You know, I've been married three times. I've gone through two divorces and I can tell you she's getting divorced. This is obvious. This is exactly what you say. Well, you know, the funny thing in the giveaway, the latest of this of these events is Obama showed up at some restaurant and by himself and Secret Service guys that's had dinner with. That was a while in other words. He went out to dinner by himself and never you know, yes what you do you go sit there alone I mean I have eaten dinner by myself when I've been on the road and I usually just go to the bar and Have skids I want to eat something or there's some restaurant like I was in Atlanta. I remember one time there's this

2:29:30 famous place and I, you know, usually I can get a PR woman or somebody to go out, but wait a minute. You have a, you have a Rolodex like, Hey, PR lady, take me out to dinner. Yeah. I used to do that all the time. And I was extremely popular. Yeah, I'll bet. Because I always go to these high end restaurants and they would stick the client with the bill. And so I PR ladies, who's the client? Oh, like, like a tech company. It'd be some big company. And so I knew all these people and I said, hey, what about dinner tonight? I mean, Atlanta or whatever. At Fringal. Yeah, definitely. And it wasn't Fringal, it was more like, you know, Florida Lee. And so it was always high end. And so I was very popular. I'll bet. As a guy that, because I just know how it went. It went like the women would say to the client, oh, geez, this is awfully expensive dinner.

2:28:36 You know, that this couldn't be a grown woman just making a set of decisions for herself. You know, I've been married three times. I've gone through two divorces and I can tell you she's getting divorced. This is obvious. This is exactly what you say. Well, you know, the funny thing in the giveaway, the latest of this of these events is Obama showed up at some restaurant and by himself and Secret Service guys that's had dinner with. That was a while in other words. He went out to dinner by himself and never you know, yes what you do you go sit there alone I mean I have eaten dinner by myself when I've been on the road and I usually just go to the bar and Have skids I want to eat something or there's some restaurant like I was in Atlanta. I remember one time there's this

2:29:30 famous place and I, you know, usually I can get a PR woman or somebody to go out, but wait a minute. You have a, you have a Rolodex like, Hey, PR lady, take me out to dinner. Yeah. I used to do that all the time. And I was extremely popular. Yeah, I'll bet. Because I always go to these high end restaurants and they would stick the client with the bill. And so I PR ladies, who's the client? Oh, like, like a tech company. It'd be some big company. And so I knew all these people and I said, hey, what about dinner tonight? I mean, Atlanta or whatever. At Fringal. Yeah, definitely. And it wasn't Fringal, it was more like, you know, Florida Lee. And so it was always high end. And so I was very popular. I'll bet. As a guy that, because I just know how it went. It went like the women would say to the client, oh, geez, this is awfully expensive dinner.

2:30:23 You know, but it's the tech grouch. Hello. It's like, yeah, I know, but I didn't want to do it. But he was so insisting. And so what am I supposed to say? I can't you know, I tried to get to a cheaper place, but he wouldn't do it. I just imagine that. I mean, anybody, you know, if you can get a meal on somebody else's dime, that's hype. And yeah, you do it. Did I tell you that I found a Chinese restaurant in Fredericksburg? Man, there's about 10 jokes that are just coming and going. I can't... Well, I mean, I always... So much for my timing. I'm driving by, I'm like, there's a Panda Express in Fredericksburg. Oh, Panda Express, not a Chinese restaurant. But wait, that's what I thought. It's not Panda Express, it's a Chinese restaurant called Panda. And Tina was out of town, I'm like, I'm gonna go get some sweet and sour chicken. I just feel like, and I could even handle Panda Express. I walk in,

2:31:20 It's a real Chinese restaurant with real Chinese in Fredericksburg. And I'm sure they had heard this before because I said, I thought this was a Panda Express. This is locally owned business, sir. Oh, okay. Chill out. Chill out. It's not Panda. Yeah, it's got to drive them nuts. This is not Panda Express. This is 14-year locally owned business. Oh, wow. And it was great. They gave him the Sapporo with a chilled glass. I mean the whole thing, I was blown away. In Fredericksburg. Thank you very much for coming y'all! You know, they're doing their little Texas thing. It was great. It was really cool.

2:32:03 Did you just was just eating alone? Where was Tina? Yes, yes. No, she was in Florida visiting her friend. Yeah, no, I ate alone. So you were just a sad sack eating by yourself at a dinner? At 530. Wow, even worse. In a Chinese restaurant. Yeah, you get that fortune cookie like, I don't want to look at it. This is no good. I'm here with myself. You'll be eating alone for more. That's right, just a sad sack podcaster. Oh, what do you do for work? Podcast. Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry for you. Podcaster. So here's a clip, but this is the Poland Scammer. Oh, all right. I once came across an author who used to write a book and then using a pen name offer reviews of his own book to the book editors at the newspapers. Well, one of the presidential candidates in Poland, Karol Nowrowski, has done something rather similar. He wrote a book under a pen name.

2:33:03 then appeared on TV as the author, so he was wearing a disguise, and then went on to praise his real self as the genius inspiration behind the book, self-promotion on steroids. Well, the Polish journalist Bartosz Wilinski has been telling me more. Well, this is ridiculous. He's a right-ish historian. He used to be a historian. Now he has been appointed as a candidate of a populist national party called Law and Justice. The abbreviation is PIS. And they struggle to get into the second round of presidential election. He's being chased by the real far-right politician, Svoboda Mimenson. But the problem with this person is that apparently he hasn't been vetted good enough. Some

2:33:48 You know, shabby fragments of his past has been revealed by the media. His contacts to the neo-Nazis seen in northern Poland, some of people he was, well, he knew personally were active members of the neo-Nazi groupings in Poland. His contacts to the people dealing with organized crimes were also revealed. And this book is, you know, the cherry at the top. So I'm reminded and just deteriorate into discussions about how Trump used to pull stunts like this when he was younger. Oh yeah, he would call up. Claiming to be a public relations person or somebody else and

2:34:30 I forgot what the backstory of somebody must have. We've had clips of it. Yeah, I'm actually looking for it right now. I remember that quite distinctly. Here's another screwball story since we're on these stories. Let's go to Professor Arrested in Thailand. Oh, that's never good. An American academic living in Thailand is under arrest on a charge of insulting the monarchy. Thailand has a strict less majestic law. A single offense can land the guilty party with a prison sentence of up to 15 years. Paul Chambers is a lecturer at Naresorn University in northern Thailand. His lawyers say he was denied bail and taken into custody on Tuesday.

2:35:10 They added in a statement that the charge stems from a webinar invitation published on the website of a Singapore think tank in October. A blurb in the invitation refers to the appointment of high-ranking generals in the military and the role of the monarchy. Chamber's lawyers say he had no involvement in the blurb on the website. The US State Department released a statement saying it is closely monitoring the situation. Les Majestés prosecutions in Thailand have spiked in recent years with the rise of protests demanding that the monarchy be reformed. Yeah, you got to be careful with that kind of stuff. Yeah, this is a very scary story. But it's well known in Thailand. You do not insult the royal family. It's done. I mean, it was that way when I was there in 1990. Just don't do it.

2:35:56 The story is actually scurrier because everybody who talks about it has a different why What was the insult and this one's claims it was based on some blurb in a website? For a seminar in Singapore and then the other one CBS I believe it was said that it was cuz he because it was a he went to the seminar and did the Q&A and during the Q&A asked to answer some question that any insulted the monarchy by accident And so it's hard to say what happened here, but yeah, you don't say anything. No, but why is there a monarchy in Thailand? Well, it's ceremonial, John. It's like all monarchies. It's just ceremonial. Yeah, if it's so ceremonial, then why do people get so bent out of shape about anything? Well, I'm glad we live in America because in America you can say whatever you want and that's exactly what Senator Kennedy did regarding Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. This is a great bit. It's too bad that Hannity rolls the bumper music underneath him, but it was still pretty funny.

2:37:00 What do you think of the new leadership, Jasmine AOC and Bernie? I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party. She's entitled to her opinion. I'm entitled to mine. As I've said about her before, I think she's the reason There are directions on a shampoo bottle. Our plan for dealing with her is called Operation Let Her Speak. Now contrast that with the UK who are proposing a new law. This is from GBN, the Great Britain News Network, and listen to this. Welcome back, GBN Tonight, with me Martin Dornbly. Now the Labour-ran Rushmore Borough Council has sparked outrage by proposing a sweeping injunction that could see Christian street preachers imprisoned for up to two years.

2:37:54 if the injunction is breach now over claims of causing offense or distress. Now under the proposed terms Christians will be banned from praying for individuals, handing out religious leaflets or Bibles by hand and laying hands on people in prayer even with their permission. Who's running the UK? Satan! What is going on there? What else could it be if you listen to that report closely? You can't touch anybody if you're, you know, the healer. You can't lay hands. You're supposed to lay hands on somebody. You're supposed to heal them. Or you can't pray for anybody. If you pray for somebody, this is like a violation. What? You can't hand them a Bible. Can't hand somebody a Bible? Because that could hurt someone's feelings, I guess. Yeah. You know, Germany, I was really thinking about this. Germany, I mean, they are so clamped down, so locked up, the German people.

2:38:55 And when you hear this, I only have German clips so it doesn't really work for the show, but they're talking about when this war comes. They're so hyped up about war and it's all... Gee, the Germans? Well, yeah, that's my point. That's a shocker. That's my point. World War I, who started it? Who started it? Well, Germany was responsible for the thing getting out of control, that's for sure. World War II. Well, that was obviously Germans. And who was it always against? The French? What about the Hundred Years War? It goes way back in time. But why? I mean, speaking of... They like to fight. But I don't think... But there's not that many good German boxers. I mean, what kind of fighting are they doing? It's not the people. The governments there are nuts. It's like something in the water over there and the German government goes crazy

2:39:50 And, you know, now they're borrowing all this money to build their own war machine. It's just a matter of time. Yes, you know what? Yes, it's just a matter of time. And I don't get it. I don't understand how can that happen time and time again. And it's going to be against France again. Yeah, obviously. I don't know why, but it's always against France. Leave the French alone. The French have had their issues too. Well sure, but still it's just like I don't understand. Let's see, Mark Rutte was in Japan. Are you interested? Oh here we go. Yeah all right. Okay Mark, sell us some more weapons. First of all let's acknowledge that the United States having to take care not only of the Euro-Atlantic

2:40:43 area but also of the Indo-Pacific and of course the Middle East has to focus attention to more than one what is so-called theater at the same time so it is totally... It's real theater all right. Logical that they try and this is happening now since 2010 basically and President Trump clearly stated that he wants to continue with the policy maybe even... Stop, stop the clip. I have to say this is the only time this has happened. but it's gotten to the point where you and him sound so close together. You don't even recognize it? I can't tell who's talking. So you could be slipping stuff in. I was. These clips. Yeah, I think you did. I don't know. I can't tell. You've got this guy nailed. You have the same vocal intonations. It's very funny. President Trump, he has already said that

2:41:35 that we must go to the 5%? Clearly stated that he wants to continue with that policy and maybe even speed it up. Speed it up? To pivot more towards Asia. That's totally logical. Oh, pivot towards Asia. There we go. And also that they want the European and Canadian NATO allies to take more of a burden, share the burden. Share the burden. In a more equal, in a fairer way. Yes, by paying more. It's only logical that where the US is spending 3.4, 3.5% of GDP on defence, that they want for Europe to equalize with what the US is spending. Five. And by the way, not because the US is asking this, but NATO as a whole, if it would stick with the original 2% goal, we cannot

2:42:18 defend ourselves going forward in three to five years against the Russians. It is that simple. What is this three to five years against the Russians? Are the Russians coming? And luckily we are. And so the spending is ramping up and then to the question it means that we have, it is an end-to-end policy. We have to spend more on the European-Canadian side of NATO. Yes, but why are you in Japan, Mr. Rutte? You are a member of NATO, so why are you in Japan? The US will, over time, pivot more towards Asia. This is happening already and that will continue. That's only logical. It's logical!

2:42:55 What is this logic? It's only logical because you know we have to get in the Pacific to screw around with the Chinese. And at the same time the president made very clear in my meeting with him now a month ago that it is important for NATO to be also involved here. What in the Pacific is NATO? Is that the Pacific? through the IP4 so that is Australia, New Zealand and of course... They're on IPV4 there? What's the IP4? I have no idea. Indo-Pacific 4 agreement? I have no idea. IP4? What is that? By the way the only thing you're doing that you're not nailing is his stutter. Yeah it's hard.

2:43:38 He always says duh duh duh duh a lot. The only thing that is missed is it's logical. Yeah I like that. It's logical. You can work on that. Here it is. NATO is strengthening a dialogue and cooperation with its partners in the Indo-Pacific region, Australia, Japan and Republic of Korea and New Zealand. This is a very complex security environment you see. Our biggest economy in IP4 and the only G7 economy not in NATO and that is Japan. Japan! And that's exactly why I'm here to discuss. Yes, to get you in, get your money. Yeah, get to spend the money. And that's exactly why I'm here to discuss defense industrial production, innovation, space,

2:44:19 Japan already is participating in many NATO activities. Space, space, space. This is not about extending Article 5 to the inner Pacific. No, not about that, just getting you many. No, this is the collective defense clause, that will not happen. But to have a more integrated way of working together, to really have this, to acknowledge that these two areas, the inner Pacific and the Euro-Atlantic cannot be seen as separate. This is exactly why I'm here. Okay, he's shaking you down. He goes to this long crazy talk and this is exactly why I'm here. He's shaking him down, man. It's a shakedown. This is what it sounds like. It's amazing, this guy. I mean, it would be... It's so funny because he's such a twerp, a nerd, a loser, a dork. Everybody knows it. Now he's like big man on campus. Oh, Mark Zuchter's coming.

2:45:13 For any Dutchman in the past 12 years who's been in Holland at all, it's just like, we can't believe this guy is the top NATO dog. It's hilarious. It's crazy. Well, it's good for the show since we have a clone of him sitting there on the other mic. Yes. The only thing is we need to ramp it up to 5%. That's it. We have to equalize, not because the US wants this, but because it is only fair that we share the burden. Share the burden. I'm getting there. Meanwhile, back home at the ranch, that nut job professor from Princeton University, Eddie Glaude, you know the guy?

2:46:01 No. When you hear him, you will. He hasn't gotten the memo. It's like, don't you know that we've already moved way beyond this? There's different things to talk about. We've got tariffs, we've got trade, we got all kinds of things. But no, he's still Trump is racist. Have to grapple with it because it's the snake, it's the beast coiled up in the heart, the bosom of the country as Frederick Douglass said. And the fact that they are doubling down on this shows you what kind of human beings they actually are. Say more. Say more. We chose a felon who is more interested in loyalty, who's more interested in retribution, who's more interested in grift.

2:46:46 than in democracy. And we chose a felon because we didn't want to elect a black woman. So to read that- Yeah, this guy's a lunatic. To read that is to say we would rather destroy the republic than for that to have happened. And until we grapple with it, there's no amount of protesting I could do. There's no amount of resistance that could come into play to actually force 78 million people to grapple with what motivated them to put themselves in this position. This guy, does he have tenure? He must have tenure.

2:47:26 I can't believe as a professor he just seems like a dumb, a huge dummy, racist. Yes, he's super racist. It's unbelievable. And then Nicole Wallace, say more. Say more please, it's great. Say more. I don't know what to do with these people. All right, John, give us one more. Give them some good... Let's do some stuff on Trump's health. This was from NPR. They talk about his health because now we're going to slowly move toward that in that direction because, you know, we know that he's nuts. Oh, I see. Yeah, we got to do that. That makes sense. At 78 years old, Trump is the oldest president to start his second term. He follows former President Biden, who visibly slowed down while in office. NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith reports. When he first ran for office in 2015, then-candidate Trump's doctor put out a statement that described his lab results as astonishingly excellent and concluded he would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.

2:48:27 The doctor later said Trump had dictated it to him. Then came Dr. Ronny Jackson. Some people have just great genes. I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old. I don't know. Trump is known for his love of McDonald's and isn't a fan of exercise. Jackson was Trump's first White House physician. In January 2018, he held court in the briefing room, answering questions at length about the president's health, including his cognitive health. I was not going to do a cognitive exam. I had no intention of doing one. The reason that we did the cognitive assessment is plain and simple because the president asked me to do it. Jackson said Trump scored a 30 out of 30. Years later, in a Fox News interview, Trump described the test. Like you'll go person, woman, man.

2:49:18 camera TV. It's a very basic assessment that includes remembering a short series of unrelated words. Person, woman, man. They say, that's amazing. How did you do that? I do it because I have a good memory, because I'm cognitively there. Since the end of his first term, Trump has released very little health information, just a 2023 doctor's letter without any data saying he'd lost weight and quote, his cognitive exams were exceptional.

2:49:54 You know, you're right. This is the rotation, the Trump rotation. You know what's coming next after the health thing. It's gonna be another woman, like he raped me, scandal, he groped me. You can just wait because they really want to hurt Melania. That's what they like the most. Because you know that gets to him. I think you can just mark it. It's coming. It's coming. They always do it. This is just a setup for something they're going to work on it for the future. This is why this operation, NPR and PBS bullshit, they don't deserve any government money whatsoever. I'm reminded by the way, I didn't get to talk about this, there's a second part to this, but I'm reminded of the taking the money away from the Voice of America. So I went over to the website and looked around.

2:50:44 And it's all anti-Republican, anti-Trump propaganda. I mean, there was one piece on the Voice of America website that was just nothing more than condemning Trump's whole approach to terrorists. I thought the offices were emptied out. There's still people posting. No, the offices are empty, but the website's still there, still up. And yeah, I couldn't get any recordings. That's why I didn't bring it into the show, because I couldn't get any new recordings, because they stopped going out on the air with anything, but they still had it on the website. You could tell what they were doing. And yeah, it's anti-Republican propaganda operation. It shouldn't... getting American money, taxpayer money, I should say.

2:51:28 There's more to this? Oh my, how much more can they do? Last year, President Biden's doctors chose not to give him a cognitive exam, something Press Secretary Kareem Jean-Pierre was forced to defend repeatedly. The president himself, he said it today, he said it multiple times, and the doctor has said this, everything that he does day in and day out as it relates to delivering for the American people is a cognitive test. Even after Biden dropped out of the race, Trump leaned in on cognitive testing as a campaign issue. We should have cognitive tests for anybody that runs for president.

2:52:04 And vice president. Trump has been known to jumble words and during the campaign wobbled like he might fall when getting into a garbage truck. And he is acutely aware that some have raised questions about his fitness. Take this from a rally in October. I'll be a little thing and I'll say something a little bit like the I'll say, they'll say he's cognitively impaired. No, I'll let you know when I will be. I will be someday. We all will be someday, but I'll be the first to let you know. S.J. Olshansky is a professor of public health at the University of Illinois at Chicago, who has studied the health of presidents. He says there are many armchair neurologists, but a president's doctor is the only one who truly has all the necessary context. But keep in mind, medical records are private.

2:52:55 Presidents do not have to reveal their medical records. And in fact, there is a long history of presidents concealing their health challenges. Jeff Kuhlman was a physician in the Clinton, Bush and Obama White Houses. He points to what happened when President Woodrow Wilson had a stroke. His second wife and his physician, a young Navy doctor, they covered up for him for several months. and they were not truthful with the American people. Coleman says there's no requirement for a presidential physical, but the public and media expect them now. To me, the purpose of the physical for the president is to give him honest feedback about here's how your heart's doing, here's how your brain function's doing. Whether that honest feedback is also shared with the public is another question entirely.

2:53:49 Yeah, the rotations in play. Where is our rotation? We should do the Trump rotation online somewhere. No, we have it We have the here we go Trump rotation here. I have my list and you might want to see if there's anything I left out This is the Trump rotation. There's two categories is the regular and then there's the criminal but here we go. Ready? Yeah. Oh Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist, bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties, insane, tweets too much, small hands, small penis, big red butt, criminal.

2:54:26 It's all penis. Mean, racist, immature, thin-skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and clown. John! There we go. No wonder we're making America white again. There you go. That's a Trump rotation. The one clip I've been looking at all show and I've been waiting for you to play it and that could be our last one is the vacuum phone NPR that just looks so enticing to me. Yeah, this was a good clip. This was a...

2:55:10 would have been a good follow up for my phone material, but this was a new idea. This also reversed back to Tucker Carlson's vapidity, vapidness of the CEO class and this was a new idea. It's just an eye roller of a clip about what Samsung thinks might sell here. Samsung has a new vacuum with an unexpected feature. It can alert you to incoming calls and texts. The company's new washer and dryer can also make phone calls. The appliances are part of a new AI product line, and Samsung isn't alone. LG, GE and others are also pushing AI in their home devices.

2:55:51 But do consumers want AI in a vacuum cleaner? Online reviews have been skeptical, suggesting the features aren't worth the premium price. And only 15% of households own a smart large appliance. Some experts say companies are just throwing out ideas to see what works. That is so true. We went looking for a new... Tina's always hated this refrigerator that came with the house. And we went looking for one at Costco. It's almost impossible to buy a refrigerator that isn't a smart fridge, that doesn't have a screen, that isn't connected to some system and that gives you recipes and great tips. I mean, you're right, they're just throwing ideas at the wall. More stuff we don't need.

2:56:41 I want stuff that works. There you go. We do have a number of producers to thank, $50 and above. We love the producers who support us monetarily. It is time, talent, time, talent and treasure for our Value for Value model. Also, John's very valued tip of the day is coming up and to show mixes and we have some meetup reports including the meetup report from your birthday extravaganza. So take it away, John. Yeah, let's start with Beth. Beth Elliott, she's at the top of the list. And Coreyton.

2:57:24 Tennessee 13369 Stefan uh trockles trockles insists Zeus Deutschland Seuss just one three three four Seuss is not Deutschland Seuss is the Netherlands that says Deutschland here doesn't seem right miss trockles sounds Dutch our Dutch him sounds Deutsch Just saying. Well, Christopher whatever. There could be a... I mean look how many Albanys there are in the United States. Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina 10535. Scott Merrill in Calabasas, California 9176. Patrick

2:58:09 Stasiak in Saginaw, Michigan. 8810. It's actually Patrick Stasiak. Stasiak. Okay. And this is 8810. This is double nipples on the dime. Okay. Well, it's better than... Okay. Kevin McLaughlin's was just a straight 8008 boobs donation. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, lover of boobs. Eric mints in elegant a legion elegant or a legion one of the two 8008, Michigan Thank you for your courage and all your hard work for more years Yes, a black knight Laurie la you are I in Helsinki, Florida, Florida Helsinki Finland We haven't heard from him in a long time no 76 43

2:59:06 He is a black, black, black knight from Helsinki. That's right. Interesting. Welcome back. Welcome back. Black Knight. John Spear, Yardley, Pennsylvania, 7643. No longer a douchebag. Give him a de-douching. You've been de-douched. He shares the April 5th birthday. Good for him. Johnny Shogun in South Golden Beach, Australia. Another happy birthday called 7643. Cyrant, Cyrant, Cyrant in Arlington, Washington. 7643. There's another happy birthday fellow, Boomer.

2:59:49 We need a boomer donation to see how many boomers support the show. Maybe 6446 to represent born before 64 but not before 46. Yes. I'm liking that one. I'm sure Adam would argue the date range. No, I would not because I was born in 64 so I'm all in on this date range. 64 is the cutoff. It says born before 64. Yeah. I like 64, 46. I think that's great. I think the Boomer donation is on. Boomer donation is go. I'm putting it in the newsletter. It's go. Boomers are go. It's a go. Approved. Steven Hutu in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75. These are all the happy birthday donations that are still following, or still going. Mark, mmm.

3:00:40 Bijlveld, I don't know. What do you think? Mark Blytheveld. Blytheveld. It's Dutch. It's a Dutch name. It's Dutch. Dutch. And he's in Hadham, Connecticut. A former paperboy. Boomer. Okay, boomer. You gotta be a boomer if you're a paperboy. You're a boomer. Yeah, I'd say. In Maple Grove, Minnesota. He's got a happy birthday. I'm just gonna read the names and locations here. Steven Mann in Plymouth, Michigan. Micro Chip Nick in East Hampton. You gotta read this one. Happy birthday John you Zionist shill. Jaron Snelders. There's another Dutch one. Jeroen Snelders. Jeroen Snelders in Ennis, Texas.

3:01:41 Charles Schultz in... not the... but the... Not the Charles Schultz, yeah. Aniston, Alberta, U.S. Alberta's... It's not U.S. What is this? U.S. Yeah, that's like Seuss is in D.E. Sure. Never trust a spreadsheet. 73-73 from WJ4K. 73s. Sir Van... Sir Vant. You missed Sir Tommy Hawk. And Sir Tommy Hawk. Sir Tommy Harkin, Iowa City, Iowa, 73. Now we have random donations back to them. The Servant in Arlington, Washington. And look at his number, 6446. 6446, Boomer Donation. It's on! It hasn't even been established yet and yet we have two on today's show. Boomer Donation is go! Wow, that's another random number thing happening to us.

3:02:34 Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, California. And this is 6161, which is an Aunt Gigi donation. Here we go. 6161 Aunt Gigi donation is also go! I gotta start writing these down. Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 6006. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6006. That's interesting again. Jeff Gibbs in Pangili, Pangili, Minnesota. 55 Pangili, probably Pangili. Happy birthday to Rick Gibbs from your brother. Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado. We just had Trinidad. Another one, 5272. Steven Still in

3:03:29 Dequan, Illinois and this is a prayers for Raleigh Hawk of Southern Illinois, Sir Raleigh. Uh-oh, we have to give him an emergency F-cancer. Let me read this. His large brain tumor was removed but he's back in the hospital on a ventilator in ICU at Barnes due to complications. Please everyone pray for our brother Raleigh Lineman of the Net. Yes, of course we will and we'll hit you with an emergency F-cancer. You've got Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51. Bad Idea Supply. Go to their website. Bad Idea Supply for your bad ideas. They have all the best burning gear you can buy. 50. Now, these are $50 donors. Just name and location, starting with Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado, Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee, Jacob Rotramel in Decatur, Illinois. Could be Jacob.

3:04:31 William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. Rene Kniege in Ulstrest. Kniege. Kniege. Rene Kniege. Roderick Brown in Mermaid. Petaluma? What is P.E.? What state is P.E.? It's in the... it's in Canada. Oh, it's in Canada. What provinces P.E. is? I don't know what province P.E. is. Well, she's there. She's in Canada. Or he's in Canada. Roderick is in Mermaid. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Got that one.

3:05:14 Gerald Wazoo he's up in Westminster. Let me read around. He's got a long note. Well, look at it. This is not Gerald but Grand Wazoo. He says in the morning I said Gerald yes you did in the morning Wazoo grand well in the morning John I'm just want to thank you for mentioning the light phone there it is on episode 1753 my son is 12 and biking to and from school three and a half miles away, no big deal. But in today's world, I'd like a more reliable communication source with him other than the walkie-talkies which have gotten us this far. Three and a half miles is quite a distance. We're all on the same page. The light phone seems to be perfect.

3:05:51 Offering all he needs and eliminating everything I despise. You guys really are an invaluable resource. No exit strategy for you. Much love. Grand Wazoo. That's right. The Light Phone 3. That's the one you want. Stephen Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio. Dame. Code Red. Code Red in Huntsville, Arkansas. David Asari in West Hollywood, California and last on our list is good old Jason, Sir Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, Florida. I want to thank these people for making a show. 1754, the good show that it became. Indeed, and we appreciate everybody who came in under $50. We never read names there for reasons of anonymity. People still like that. And also we have those recurring donations. Go to noagendadonations.com. You can fill out... I like that these numbers, the numerology is coming back with the Boomer donation and that was the other one, the 6161, what was that?

3:06:50 Hold on a second. What was it? 61? Oh, on GG donation. We used to do a lot more of this. So bring back those numerology donations. We love them. We love trying to figure them out. And again, the sustaining donations, any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you. It is value for value. Go to noagendadonations.com. John Speer celebrated on April 5th. Darth Penguin, happy birthday he says to totally not serial killer Kate. Dame Astrid as we heard earlier, happy birthday to Sir Mark. Jeff Gibbs, happy birthday to his brother Rick Gibbs. And John Bye, as in B-Y-E, Bye Bye is 56 today. Happy birthday to all of you from the best podcast in the universe.

3:07:37 So we have no knights, no dames, no title changes, but we do have one Commodore. We are very proud to welcome our brand new Commodore. Do we say Commodore Center Light? Congratulations! Commodore arriving! Go to noagenderings.com, brand new Commodore, and let us know what name you want on your certificate. It is a beautiful piece, it's suitable for hanging, it is a beautiful title that you will like to have. And give us an address where to send it to, CommodoreShip, and we thank you for your courage. Now let's take a look at those meetups! NO AGENDAAA MEETUUUPS! Alright, two full on meet up reports. The first one is from the John C. Dvorak birthday bash extravaganza. Oh yeah, they went all crazy and started editing it. So here is the report for you. This is Sir Rick Altagent, Crazy Steve the Second. We're here at John's B-Day birthday extravaganza and we're about to sing him Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday to you.

3:08:42 Happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear John. Let's kill! Dear you and many more! What'd you wish for, John? That you wouldn't have sung this song. It is! Woo! Wow, that sounds like a rowdy bunch over there at the birthday bash. And almost as rowdy as the kids in New York City. What a hootenanny they have. Again, thank you all for attending the meetup. Hey, this is Sir Spoonmaker from the Manhattan meetup. Connection is protection. Train's good, plane's bad. Woohoo! In the morning, here from New York City, Sir Chancey. Hey, in the morning, it's Sir Michael Anthony, also known as the mayor, you know. By the way, y'all heard I'm off the hook. But y'all knew that already. Hey, it's MK UltraMark. I'm enjoying the meetup tonight.

3:09:53 With all the boys, we're having a good time. And shout out to all the slaves and the trolls out there. Love you Adam and John C. Hello, this is Dan Pagan. My pronouns are ITM. I'm in the heart of New York City with beautiful meetup folks and there may or may not be DMT here. Hey! Hear the Caribbean guy telling everybody to do the thing that enlightens them into a greater state of being. DMT! This is Jen and I'm at the meetup at the Perfect Pint in New York City having a great time with the No Agenda folks. My name's Connor from Wicklow, Ireland and I'm serving the No Gender Show and they've been great tippers tonight. In Morden. Happy birthday Sean!

3:10:41 Ah, love it. You got your server in there clearly operating illegally in the country, but that's okay. And it sounds like there were some drugs at that particular meetup. We do not necessarily condone that here at the No Agenda Show, but connection is protection. That's true. You get it whenever you go to a No Agenda meetup. And you can go to the Outer Swamp meetup right now actually at the Dogfish Head Ale House in Gaithersburg, Maryland. I think that's a new location, so hopefully we got notified in time. Tomorrow, Friday, Central Wisconsin Wausau meetup, 4 o'clock at Skanas in Schofield, Wisconsin. Hi-Fi Intel meetup at Fassler Hall, 6 o'clock at Fassler Hall in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, also on Friday. On Saturday, the Colorado Springs No Mutton Just Meetup at noon at Antelope Ridge Meadery in Colorado Springs.

3:11:30 We have the South Jersey Easter gathering at one o'clock at Miller's Ale House, also on Saturday, Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey. The Treasure Valley Boise Meetup, three o'clock, Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho. And again on Saturday. It's a busy day. Fort Wayne Club 33 NPR Easter Egg Extravaganza at 333 p.m. Halls Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have the 14th Northwest Houston NOAA Jena Meetup 7 o'clock at Wakefield Crow Bar in Houston, Texas. Sir Economic Hitman organizing that for you. And on the next show day a couple of meetups We have I must be high number 16 at Granite Brewery in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and the Indy No Agenda rainstick stirred not shaken meet up three o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery. That's always a hundred people there at Indianapolis, Indiana.

3:12:19 That's Mark and Maria of the Greenwood who are hosting that. And finally, the toomanyeggs.com Keene, New Hampshire meetup. It's their 11th gathering, 333 at Margarita's Mexican restaurant in Keene, New Hampshire. Just a sampling of the meetups that are taking place all around Gitmo Nation. They are taking place all around the world. You can go to noagentandmeetups.com. You can list your meetup there. You can find them. You can find them by calendar. You can find them by name. Just look at the list. long one and as always if you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy no agenda meetups.com It's always like a party. That's what's so great about it. It's always like a party. It's always like a party. There's gonna be another Fredericksburg meetup, I think, in May. I'm excited. Another one hanging out here at the 1776. Rekhalsa did. Steve wants to bring one to... Well, there's Matt Long and his beautiful wife Gail. They're gonna do it with Jenny over there at 1776 again. All the J6ers. Make it a... yeah. All the J6ers hang out there. I got nothing to do with it.

3:13:41 Okay, well here. We go. This is the moment that we all go here's where you get depressed. Yeah, I do I get very noisy More your AI nonsense or the I have I have I but I have two ISOs They're real ISOs not fake like John's here's the first I have a real one. Here's my first one Hmm Vanessa wasn't so echoing Well, how about this one then? Yo yo yo, what up? Come on come on yo yo yo, what up? That's not bad. It's not it's not great, but it's not bad who sent you that I don't know Yeah, of course someone sends it to me. Yo yo yo, what up? Very white yo yo yo, what up, but we'll see very well. We'll take it. All right. What you got? Okay, we got here's the real one. This is prophecy. Oh

3:14:37 The prophecy has been completed. Somebody sent that in. Yeah, yeah, I can tell. Poor woman, it was a TikTok woman. Yeah. Okay, we can do, uh, can I do better? You can't do better than that if you tried. I recognize that guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's Caleb. Yeah, that's right, it's Caleb from 11 lives, yes. And then your final one. So good. That show was so good. I don't know man. Yo yo yo what up? I think my use it you should use yo yo yo. It's better Thank you very much, and now it's time for the moment. You've all been waiting for John Cena Borax tip of the day And sometimes Created by Dana Burnett well you had your tip of the day for today. I did I

3:15:34 Oh brother, you teased it last show. I forgot what it was. Wow, okay. You don't have a tip? No, I do have a tip. Oh, thank goodness. I'm sorry, I completely spaced on that. That's my mistake. Okay, now this was suggested by one of the producers and I said, yeah, you know, the problem was Here's the tip, and everyone should have one or two of these, and I did have some thoughts about it. And this is the window breaking tool that you should have in your car that's got a diamond tip. It's usually called an emergency seat belt cutter and window hammer.

3:16:12 Everybody's got a blade on it. Because what happens you get into a wreck, especially in one of these electric cars, the power goes out, you can't get out of the seat belt, you cut the seat belt, then you take the little hammer and you tap, doesn't take much because it's got a diamond tip or it's carbide, whatever tip it has, you snap it against the window, shatters, you can get out of there. As opposed to not being able to roll it down if it's electric. So, the producer said, well, you know, what's the best of these? That's the question. This is why it's a tip of the day. We want the absolute best. Well, I don't, you can't determine the absolute best without busting your car window. So, or going to a junkyard and saying, can I test a bunch of these things on your car, see which one breaks the window best.

3:16:58 I would suggest simply put, going to Amazon and getting the $9.95, do you get two of them? And it's a two-pack and it's got 27,000 reviews that average four and a half stars. And I think that's probably gonna work. The little ones that got a motor in them, the ones that pop the thing out. A motor? A motor? That little thing, it just spring loaded, bang, it supposedly breaks the window. No, you want a hammer. Yeah, you want a hammer. So you can bash it. And then you can look at these. There's a bunch of different ones and it has to have a cutter. Now here's what I was, here's the real issue that's not discussed.

3:17:34 And it's probably really the more important part of the tip. So you're in the car, you got the thing, usually you keep it in the little side pocket of the driver's seat. You reach in there and you can grab it, you can cut the seat belt and bang the window. What happens if you're in a rollover? The thing comes out of the side pocket, bounces around the car, you're stuck with the seat belt on you, it's out of reach. Oh no! What do you do? What do you do? Oh, well you should have it on a... around your neck on a string. Whenever you look like an idiot. Whenever you drive. You have to... what you have to do is you have to secure it somehow. You either glue it or... it should be secured or put a string around it and tie it to something. Yeah. So...

3:18:22 So it doesn't get too far away if you have a horrible situation and even just a collision, it could jar it loose and move it into the back seat. You should have a holster like a leg holster, like a calf holster and always have it in there when you're driving just in case. But this is a situation that people should think about. A lanyard, how about a lanyard? I'm just saying, anything. But just think about what happens if... How about don't drive an electric vehicle? You got more chance of surviving. Well no, even a regular car, you drive into the lake... I mean there's a million, you don't want to use these things, you just have to, you should have them though, just in case, because you don't want to get stuck in the car. But you have to consider the fact that it'll get jostled and moved around in the vehicle if the car flips or rolls over, does anything, and so you'd have to

3:19:17 secure it somehow. So just think about that. But everyone should have one of these things. Stop the hammering! That's right everybody, everyone needs one. Tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com for John's Tip of the Day. Creative advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti. Wow, your tips are great. Kind of morbid, but they're great. Well that one is like I'm kind of more, but it's a safety tip. No I understand. It's a safety tip, but still it's like a morbid man. It's like death death death death There's no death if you have no it not if you have it on a lanyard Coming up we got end of show mixes from Leo Lapuque Neil Jones and Tom Stark weather a lot of money involved

3:20:07 Up next on the No Agenda stream, TrollRoom.io and your modern podcast app, we have our big dumb mouth. Oh, it's good. They're back. They were on some kind of hiatus. People are a little concerned. I'm glad they're back on the stream. Good to see you guys. Good for you, kids. And we will return on Sunday with more of your media deconstruction. I wonder what there will be to talk about. I'm sure there's something we can pull apart for you. In the meantime, don't worry. It's just like COVID. It's all gonna be okay. You're not gonna die. But your iPhone, yeah, you might have to trade that one in.

3:20:42 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday please remember us at noagendadonations.com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such. Your love gives me such a thrill. But your love won't pay my bills I want money. You're gonna get a check. The risk is to the money

3:21:55 The knock is a person to the money. The risk is to the money. The knock is a person. I don't think this entire line of questioning is meant to

3:22:39 to be real questions and so I will not reply. How can you spoil a system that is already broken? I don't know why Speaker Pelosi or anybody else would be saying, oh here, we're sorry, we don't want to upset you, we'll give you more money. I did great, I made a lot of money. Any collusion? You know, the Russia collusion, delusion, absolutely no collusion between Trump and the Russia. I reserve the right Yo, yo, yo, what up?