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00:00 Hey kids, stop petting dead animals. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday December 22nd 2024 This is your award winning Gimel Nation Media Assassination episode 1723! This is no agenda Barreling down the mountain and broadcasting live from the heart of Da Vinci's hometown here in Florence Italy In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's wet I'm John C. Dvorak Really? That's all you got? It's just wet. Eh, it's just wet everybody I thought you were going to be in Amsterdam No! I was in Amsterdam the first day and then now we're in Florence because we're here for Christmas And from- I understood that you were going right to Italy and do whatever it was your doing and then go to Amsterdam and do the show there Well you have exactly backwards now don't you

00:53 Obviously. We went to Amsterdam first to do some stuff there and then we went to Italy for my brother-in-law's 60th birthday and were staying, going to be here for Christmas that's what's going on I can't how did you get that so wrong? No idea it's unbelievable! So we almost didn't make it tonight for the show which was rather exciting Well this is gonna be interesting story Maybe not. Well, let's hope it is! But I do have a travel report so we came to... Let me start at the beginning So Monday night before we left We had the Boostergram Ball live in Austin at Antone's which was you know a hootenanny. We had six bands It was all streaming live on the modern podcast apps. It was an amazing time

01:44 I just needed to say this because there was a guy named Parker who, if he hasn't will be contacting you. He's doing a documentary on value for value and of course i said i'll participate but only if you also interview John has he reached out yet? No never heard of him well there you go He will. Or he might be an email somewhere and you just haven't seen it as possible. I'll make sure we can because, you know, you can do a value for value documentary without your side You know this is very important And this guy...he's from New York. He's shaking

02:22 You know, I walk into Antone's and he's doing stuff with the setup. He's shaking visibly shakes it What's going on? He said... I'm so sorry i'm trying to organize airbnbs I'm trying to get my family out of New York because an army ranger buddy of mine told me that there's a loose nuke And that's what all these drones are looking for. I said sit down son Oh brother But this is the degree to which that psyop went He was... Still going on, are you kidding? Yeah it is. It is to a degree Which of course what I predicted, I think he would go on for another week You think even...? I thought the shutdown phony shut down kind of got rid of that and I guess not

03:04 Anyway, so you know it's like you milk it. You got to go they are definitely milking yeah there no what else can we do with this thing? Having meetings as we speak anyway, so we finally is we stay overnight This is the level that you know that the psyops go to He was trying he was trying to get an Airbnb for his family in West Virginia or something I'm like dude Hmm Anyway, so we go back Tuesday and then Wednesday morning we leave. We get on the plane and were flying to New York first which I never like to do because New York is always a problem if you're connecting in New York

03:46 Yes, you're better off connecting in Atlanta. Which we couldn't get with the timing so on the way back we're connecting in Atlanta So, you know We've got like an hour and a half layover And yeah of course low and behold before it's starting to board now, we're sorry Now we're going to be delayed at least another hour which to me means okay That'll be another two hours and the rest and the reason this is Delta The reason was they were out of pilots Which typically does not happen in the middle of the month. And they had given our pilot to another flight and were flying in a new pilot for us from Detroit, and he had not gotten on the plane in Detroit yet

04:28 So, you know... How's that an hour? No it's four. We had a four-hour delay. It took forever to get out by the way TSA and image recognition facial recognition is everywhere including boarding on Delta international flight now you recall If you get on an international flight, you stand in the line. You show the check-in agent your boarding pass and your passport. Please have your passport open to the picture page. You recall this right? Of course! Yeah well that's no more just keep everything in your pocket just look at this little screen boom welcome aboard so no boarding pass No Passports It is all in the system

05:16 Yeah, exactly. Sounds spoofable! Anyway so we get into Amsterdam I was gonna do a TV interview so if were late but anyway it all worked out fine and the next day we get up on time and we fly to Florence Short flight hour and a half we land in Florence, it's very small airport. There's you know You know you they shove a stair to the plane so you're walking on the tarmac Yeah one of those deals yeah walk into baggage long beach And I'm just gonna go to the bathroom for second I walk in the bathroom as I'm walking out I hear dogs

05:57 So there's, you know one of our producers with his wife Alex and Annie like hi how are you doing? I thought you guys were...I was hoping you might be on our flight. He's yelling they're eating the dogs in the airport bathroom which was pretty good. That's a good one It was good but it didn't Most people go ITM is a little less jarring No he started off with their eating the dogs So we're in downtown Florence. It's fantastic, you know? So we have a nice evening so for us to have a nice dinner and the next day we're going to go off into the mountains and everybody you talk to here... The minute they hear you from America, they'll be talking with you like, you know, the guy in the restaurant he says can I ask you what do you think of Trump

06:55 And we go, yeah. Yeah we think he's great I love Trump! Trump has big balls He is very good We love Trump Everybody here loves Trump But they're reluctant to very well, that's interesting because of the blowback they get from the Democrats Obviously everybody you talk to is especially their restaurants and retails on Italy where Jordan Maloney is for you know she is obviously a Trump well I he's gonna be big by the way. I saw a picture did not to change the subject, but I saw a picture of her I guess when she was in the United States and she was with Biden, and she had his head on this... She has got some sort of granddad thing with Biden. And she feels bad about it. We've noticed this over the last couple years that Maloney is really

07:45 got something going on with Biden. She feels bad about herself, I don't know what it is." And so you know actually i said to a couple of these people...I said so but you've got Maloney yes Maloney has big balls too! But she like a Biden and she's like Trump, she likes Elon, Elon, Elon who? Oh Elon Because you know she had to have Elon. She's all hot and heavy for Elon according to everybody here because she had I didn't know that yeah, she had him Give him give her an award and hadn't you specifically requested the yes this did crop up Yeah And then of course they all talk about tariffs which will be my actually would be my first flip first clip

08:29 Because they're very worried about the tariffs. They've all been psyoped here, and it's like oh no we think Trump is good but you know he's not good for our economy because we can't export our goods to be big tariffs and that Trump is going to punish us I got my Italian English down really good Well I don't know if you got a good or not so there's this huge article in the Financial Times yesterday morning And I got a copy of it here for you. Trump wants 5% NATO defense spending target, so now remember it was 2% GDP for all NATO members Now Trump somehow through the Financial Times because he hasn't said it anywhere himself

09:17 No, Donald Trump's team has told European officials that the incoming US president will demand NATO member states increase defense spending to 5% of GDP. I'm like this is a front page of The Financial Times so i'm reading through this and then a little bit further down it says one person said they understood that Trump he would settle for 3.5 percent But he was explicitly planning to link higher defense spending and the offer of more valuable trading terms with the US. So what he's doing here is just, it's very interesting because of course 5%, 3 1⁄2% 2 1⁄2%. It's all going to be spent on us and our companies. You know defense spending means you're buying from Boeing and Raytheon and our guys as far as I know

10:05 Well, there are European suppliers of certain things. It's not the kind of... No it's not that kind of money and so then... Not to leverage we have And so he is tying that to tariffs and you know the message is well everyone pays 5% but yeah I'll take 3 1⁄2 which is still almost double the 2%. Then maybe they will go easy on your tariff. So he already dealing As if just by God's grace, our boy Rütze comes out and talks about this big European Union meeting going on. So everyone is out there talking

10:44 Our friend Mark Rutte comes out but you know I won't talk about what is in the Financial Times this morning. But i will talk about it because I think I'm working for Trump. I saw that P's and FT today and this 3% being mentioned, and I decided today not to mention a new figure we will need more time to consult amongst allies yes we don't want to talk about the 5%. What exactly the new level should be? But it is considerably more than 2%. But let me be very frank. If you would only spend more and not spend better, you have to go at least 4% What? And you can lower the 4% by doing two things One is innovation making sure that you get the most innovative technology Innovative As part of your defense industrial base and therefore in your

11:32 defense organizations and secondly by buying together. I love this guy! He's like, hey you know three and a half percent okay but maybe four percent if you make it smart in innovative so joint procurement um... And as i said in my speech we have to get rid of that idiotic system where every ally is having these detailed requirements, which makes it almost impossible to buy together, to have joint procurement etc. So it's crucial that we spend not only more but also better because otherwise the financial impact will be huge

12:08 And then not even with 4% you can defend yourselves because then you would not have the latest technologies implemented in your defense organizations, in your armies and your navy. In the whole of your military." This guy is such a tool that he didn't even read the article! Trump's already at three-and-a-half and he's trying to negotiate down to four! What a tool! This is amazing! That guy. Yeah, what a numb... Everybody here is laughing about him Anyway so we went up to the mountain last night It was like it was fun fun fun party I think 18 people

12:50 You know, my sister. Both sisters were there of course and their kids and we're all hanging out in this you know you have to go up with this with a bus it's about an hour and a half from Florence and the snow and it's completely idyllic and We come down with and you go over the cable car The last bit of the way the whole thing is perfect And then we're supposed to leave at 3 30 which would get me here in time to still do some prep work before before the show starts and we get down to the bus and the guy's like, well my left windshield wiper motor broke. I can't drive because now it's sleet or it's raining."

13:30 And I'm like, oh crap. You know? I got to find a cab the closest cab is an hour away is take an hour from you get here and then I'm like well I'm never going to make this and then the Italians dedication to this show ladies and gentlemen make sure you pay attention to what he's talking about yeah it was like Oh this cab ride will cost you 400 euros like I don't know we gotta get to the shows so we gotta get home And I was like, oh what are we gonna do? No. I'm sorry. Well and the cab's not answering and you know Willow of course is fluent in Italian she's trying to figure it out and I say will anybody drive? And Tina is like hold on hold on a second I don't want any nut job Italian driving us home hold on a second! And then meanwhile my nephews they had done the most Italian thing ever

14:21 They bribed the driver and said, you just drive down halfway down the mountain before we get on the highway. Before she bribed a driver? Yes! Before we get on the highway You have another bus to pick us up And they arranged it so that we still got here later than expected But anyway It was an Italian A total Italian caper Loved it I can lose my license Ah here Here's some Euros Oh okay Alright I'm good Yeah yeah I'm good I'll get you guys home So that was good. It was good, it was you know and so we're here and then we're gonna spend Christmas here and then go back to Amsterdam uh and then spend one more day to do the show on Thursday and then we'll fly back home. Oh see that's where I got confused! You probably told me that... I want to thank Strokey Bill, Bill Walsh for the last episode of Best Of Episode

15:16 I could not have wished for a better response. I don't know what you saw, but everybody was just oh my god this was such a great episode but it freaked me out i hated going back to that you know It was a reminder are we going into that again with this bird flu nonsense? I think Bill did a great job he really did He was irked who didn't use his art But I thought Nick the Rat's art was great And the title of course, you know we didn't say COVID Retrospective 2. We have artists. Strokey Bill. And you know we didn't use his title COVID Retrospective 2 instead it was This Really Happened which you suggested which was a great title

16:01 And I think it really set the mood and people enjoyed it. You know, they enjoyed it in as far as you can enjoy this kind of a look back on a lot of people said boy how quickly we've forgotten that their lies because this took us up to the vaccine. This didn't even include the vaccine nonsense. No, this is just the pre-lies. Yeah, the pre or post-lies. Yeah, setup lies So anyway, you know there was I don't have this clip but there was uh I guess Harvey Mandel has a podcast. Howie how we Harvey is not Harvey okay? Howie Mandel yeah, how he's got it in who is a germaphobe and Big time with with RFK jr

16:53 Yeah, did you see the clips from that? I saw the clip but they didn't... The one where he was Howie Mandel and his whole crew couldn't believe that all these people had said the shot is safe effective and you won't get COVID. You can't give COVID to anybody. And like no, that didn't happen. That's the clip. I was stunned by this! It was quite amazing And I think Kennedy was stunned too. He's going, wait a minute! I got clips here if you want to hear them and they wouldn't play them but it's like they were in denial... is that do you think denial or ignorance? I mean i can't put my finger on it but it was like wait a minute if you're gonna be doing these public podcasts like this you have to have some basic knowledge it seems to me. Maybe I can find the clip real quick well the thing that at

17:44 At the very end, because he's saying Fauci was saying this and then says Rachel Maddow. And then Howie Mandel goes, oh, well, Rachel Maddow doesn't count like all of a sudden Rachel Maddow is no good. You know you know he's all up her butt here I'll have the clip they say what they're saying out at 22000 people there was one covid death among the vaccinated and it was two covid deaths on unvaccinated double twenty 2000 people so And that allowed them to claim it's 100% effective. Effective for what? You can't use the word effective... No, no you remember they kept saying it's a hundred percent effective. No! They just said it would negate the severity I can tell ya if you go on the internet you could see Tony Fauci But the word effective didn't say you won't get- I never heard you wont get COVID Oh yeah well this is a different subject but yeah in fact I saw tape yesterday of them all Biden, Fauci, Gates

18:38 you know, Burl all of them saying if you take the vaccine Rachel Maddow. If you take the vaccine you can't get COVID-19, you can't pass COVID-19. I didn't see that okay well you know what? Can i play it for you yeah alright wait wait wait here It doesn't matter what Rachel Maddow said oh really they say what they're saying out at 22 000 people sorry there you go it doesn't matter what Rachel Maddow said Oh my gosh Well, this is the state of the podcasting world. Thanks to you so now it's my fault that Harvard Mandel was his name Harvard better Harvard Mandel at Harvard Mandel that he well You know what happened was when it didn't work out that way they switched the messaging I guess The last messaging is what weak minded brothers and sisters remember final messaging which still gives floors me as my absolute favorite

19:34 I was almost gonna pull a clip for today's show. We should have they all had shots and they all got COVID in them And they changed the messaging to well you beat won't be hospitalized You won't have any severe symptoms, which is proving it negative There's no way of proving that yeah, and they said that was the message day switch well Yeah, you might get it but Yeah, yeah. And then you had these people coming out saying oh I got...I just picked..I had COVID luckily I had the shot! Yeah. What? So that it wouldn't be so severe and you won't have to go to the hospital That's that's the only messaging they remember because I think their brains are so small That is you know in and out like you put messaging in and Oh here comes new messaging God what do I do with this message? Get rid of it. Well there is a definitely a last-in first-out

20:26 issue here where they don't remember anything that took place before the last message. It's crazy, it's so well I mean so it's unbelievable they're still trying to do this this bird flu thing ever since what's his face HOTEP, ever since he said oh it's all coming. Oh it's January 21st is when it all starts! All these viruses are coming here's NPR this is a short clip very good summary and I have many more if we want to listen to them but very good summary of this one patient so one patient

21:06 is not doing too well. This one patient is over 65, we only know he or she is over 65 has pre-existing conditions this was a big one during COVID all the people who had to go on the vent had pre-existing conditions and that's all we really know for privacy reasons but you know this thing could jump from human to human pretty soon But do you worry that a virus is getting stronger? John Connor, who's a professor at Boston University says viruses are essentially right now going to the gym and getting stronger. You know when they spread... This is NPR! Talks to a professor, the professor says well right now the viruses are going to the gym and getting stronger

21:52 Okay, NPR. Viruses are essentially right now going to the gym and getting stronger You know when they spread birds cows other animals they're mutating potentially so do you worry about that as well? You know, Robin I'm in public health so it's my job to worry. And yeah, I am worried but the stronger that I'm worried about is less about how bad an individual infection is as worried as I am about that It's more about the ability for this virus to stick better to humans And the stickier it becomes to humans, the higher the probability that we get transmission from person-to-person. Now if that happens, the severity of this illness will be something we consider but we've known for some time that this influenza could cause serious illness in people so

22:41 pretty well known and it's not surprising to me that somebody with these pre-existing conditions would have a serious case. But what I'm watching for is the stickiness, the increased probability that we're seeing human cases or if this were to jump between a human and another human. And so as we think about strength of the virus, I want us to think about transmissibility more than we think about severity." These guys are all getting jacked up again with the same messaging! And everyone's in on it. Here's ABC and, oh we have the first very severe case. Severe case! According to the CDC the very first severe case of bird flu has been confirmed here in the United States what's the latest? Starting on a serious note this year alone there have been more than 60 documented cases of human avian influenza We're talking about H5N1 otherwise known as bird flu If you'll take a look at this map the cases are relatively widespread

23:33 The majority of cases, I want you to focus on California. They have more than half of the documented cases of bird flu. This comes after the- They're throwing up maps! They're throwing up maps! You know they have six... Maps we got maps. We got maps. Governor Newsom has announced a state of emergency in order to organize resources and fight against this outbreak and this comes after the first as you said severe case of bird flu. I sat in conference with federal health officials and the CDC yesterday to get more information here's what you need to know about this case This patient has a severe illness. They're hospitalized, the specifics about their case are still being reported from the Department of Health in Louisiana they are over the age of 65 and reportedly they have become exposed to sick or dead birds within their home, their backyard. And right now they're suffering from quote unquote severe respiratory illness Of course as I said we're still getting more details about this case but this is certainly an inflection point in this outbreak

24:24 as we try to contain this virus. This is exactly the same script, although it's not as scary but it's exactly the same script. Respiratory disease? Oh well we don't know if its the first severe case... How concerned should be? Just how big of a threat is this? Important to know that majority of these cases are patients who have been exposed who are sick or dead animals and that seems to be where that transmission, that risk comes from. These animals can release this virus in mucus and saliva so petting or touching dead animals can increase that risk. Hey kids! Stop petting dead animals! This is not good idea of pett the dead animal. Animals can increase that risk and symptoms to look out for we've received memorandums in our emergency rooms identify patients who might be at risk symptoms sore throat cough

25:13 fever, muscle aches. The typical symptoms you would see with the flu and the best way to avoid is to make sure number one if you have animals specifically wild birds if your managing or a farmer you have to make sure that your taking care of being cautious and washing your hands. Backyard chickens they're gonna get rid of that. That will be the next thing. Well they'd like too but thats not a wild bird. No, it's waste of... Don't pet the chicken. ...the mass being mindful of that but again it's majority of those who are exposed to sick or dead animals so that is where you need to take that caution Alright let's go to CBS Dr. Celine Gounder who I believe was her husband who dropped dead at the Olympics

25:54 from the shot? Well, allegedly there's no evidence. So let's talk about this! Is it the same strain as what is going on with dairy cattle? It is not the same strain. It is a strain that we have seen in wild birds and also the strain involved with the teenager who was hospitalized in critical condition from H5N1 in British Columbia Canada. Oh, hold on a second. There's something new going here... Isn't H5N1 and H5N1? There's a different strain of H5N1, wouldn't that be some other designation as opposed to H5N1. I would think so it makes no sense

26:35 It makes no sense what she said. No, is it based on their own way of their own nomenclature? Doesn't make sense but okay let's assume is h5n1 dot 2 now remember there's a lot of different agendas that are going on here A lot of people you know are involved in these types of psychological operations against people So we already have the backyard chickens. Ooh, can't have that! Oh there's still more... But so people at home hearing this are gonna say well he was handling birds Is there a concern now though that people could pass it to other people? Very good question So yes He his exposure was sick and dead bird for those of us at home Do not handle sick or dead animals call do not pet the dead animal animal control but in terms of human wait hold on a second

27:25 So you got a law, you got five chickens in your backyard. Yeah And one of the chickens drops dead which they do when they get old and different things happen They get egg bound which is a real problem What's egg bound? That's where the eggs get too big and they can't get them out Oh no! And they just clog up and drop dead Oh that happens to chickens It happens alot In fact we have Jay has a bunch of chickens and she She did a little chicken background here. That's literally too many eggs calm I mean that's Information so she got a couple of these she's got chickens and those are the eggs I use for my raw milkshake for the show hmm, and She found one of the chickens it just got a nice big egg, and it's got double yolks yeah

28:15 Which is a cool egg to have but Mimi gave me a lecture about these double yolk I mean you run it into him every once in awhile even the jumbo eggs when you see jumbo eggs Yeah, she says generally speaking those chickens don't live a long life because these things are too big and they will get Eggbound no and then they can't lay the egg it gets stuck in them And then the next thing you know that chicken's dead So by the way, these people are talking. If you have a dead chicken in your backyard you gotta call animal control to pick him up? Are you kidding me?! Gotta call CDC that I come in with hazmat suits! Give me a break.

29:05 Oh, it's just one little hop before you know it. Human to human transmission then we'll have a pandemic everybody is going to die but whatever you do don't drink the raw milk How big of a concern should all of us feel watching and listening to you? Right so for the general public the risk is still exceedingly low The people who are at risk are farm workers People who handle domesticated animals livestock And really, don't drink raw milk. It's really not a good idea given everything that is happening and again the more people get exposed to this virus the more likely you are to see a mutation that will allow for human-to-human transmission Man! You say that to an Italian by the way

29:44 The minute you eat some food in Italy, you realize right away what slop we get in America. Oh yeah Europeans just Italy and France both and even Germany if you go there but they're all throughout the areas are there the food is just there's no comparison and they like it more It's just better. It is prepared well and they know what they're doing, and it is delicious. Yeah. And you know so in the morning here we had a buffet breakfast. Oh! You like cheeses? We have good cheese. Very good cheese here. And the food labeling here they have a label which is 0 km means zero kilometers mean that that cheese came from less than one kilometer away

30:28 And the cheese is raw. Oh, it sure is! Sheep cheese goat cheese all kinds of cheeses It's all raw milk and it's not pasteurized and the cheeses are so much better because I mean every once in a while some of that raw milk cheese can sneak into the United States even though they make a big fuss when it does it's delicious. Yeah, it's so good All of it... The meats just everything It's good and you just think, oh man we get... come on RFK Jr. You know the FDA is now talking about oh yeah we have to change our food labels We have to explain what healthy means And so healthy will mean well it has some carrots

31:10 It's ridiculous. We are so far off base and I know it's funny, and they asked like um so Uncle Adam what is with the the guy who killed at the CEO? Why is he a hero when I say well you Let me explain what the typical cost is of health insurance. And when I say, you know, 1500 bucks you get an $8000 deductible they're like what? We pay a hundred and fifty dollars a month and then 300 euros and 350 euro deductible. So now you might wait in line for six months yeah I said that sucks but they can't believe it like oh well yeah now all of sudden they get it! Like okay

31:51 Anyway, let's go to Anne Thompson with Dr. Peter Chin Hong. Oh hold on a second so this guy he's a local yeah So he is on the local stations here in the Bay Area all the time. And he's kind of greasy and he's got a funny mustache, and he's just like... He's always like...He's like a guy who would say, hey wipe your face you're all sweaty! And he is just every time that you turn around get more shots The CDC says the strain that has infected dairy cows is different from the one that sent the Louisiana resident to the hospital. Nine states have reported human cases of bird flu this year, and tonight California has declared a state-of-emergency over the outbreak

32:43 to give local agencies more resources to prevent it from becoming a bigger problem. People should be alert, they should be vigilant but not scared It really reminds us all to get flu shots right now because we got infected with both bird flu and human flu They can exchange genes and really make a variant that is more easily able to enter the human body and make us more sick Yeah, oh easily. It's easily it's gonna happen how concerned should we be? Just what is the threat to the general public The good news is Lester the CDC says the threat is low there's no evidence of person-to-person transmission No evidence! It has all been from infected animals to humans so the advice is to avoid sick or dead animals and if you own a backyard flock your hunter or bird enthusiast

33:34 Wear personal protective gear, gloves and masks when dealing with the animals. The same is true for farm workers." Okay man thanks for that update. That was a great update thank you! So you think that's crazy? You think they're pushing some shots?! How about the UK? They've pulled a classic out. Norovirus, coronavirus influenza and RSV which is another seasonal virus NHS bosses are lumping those four things together in the thing they're calling the Quaddemic Quaddemic! Which they say is a massive massive risk to the NHS right now Listen to that music That's the BBC The Quaddemic The Quaddemic? QUADDEMIC! I mean... He tried Yeah

34:24 Quaddemic! Perfect, perfect. Very good Let's learn a little bit about the quaddemic shall we because there is something going on in the UK BBC Radio It will be a long time before we forget the rush to find a vaccine for COVID-19 You remember those months in 2020 when the development of the mRNA vaccine was sped up and eventually led to this breakthrough that could now be used to protect against another of our most disruptive winter bugs, norovirus. John before we go to NBC who are jumping on this train what is noro virus? Yeah everyone's got and had a case I think I've had noro three times

35:15 It's a very strange product. You get sick, it's like I think it used to be called the 24-hour flu or the 24-hour bug. Yeah until they got a cool name for it. Yeah when they got the name for but it gives you...it lasts a day And you end up throwing up and having intense diarrhea for about 24 hours. You lose 5 to 6 pounds, it's one of the best diet... It's better than house epic! It's much better than Zempig because it is faster and kind of cleans you out. Zempig doesn't do that. You don't need a shot, oh that's great! And you don't need to shot in the gut by the way but yeah norovirus comes and goes its usually comes in groups we had a norovirus recently there was I was watching

36:07 It's also free. Norovirus is also free, you don't have to pay a thousand bucks for your ozone pills. Yes it's free! When you get it if you've ever had noro you know its noro because it hits ya so hard and so fast and it's not just debilitating really except that you have to sit on the toilet alot. That's kind of debilitating but there Last night's news there was an outbreak of noro in out of Some restaurant big meetup in LA and they were came from the oysters. Yeah, I have the clips You have to clip on that too. I have the clips Let me see this is NBC dr.. Natalie Azar you mentioned the UK their clock They're calling what's happening over there a quad dimming flu

36:57 RSV and norovirus, right? What's happening over there. So they are seeing right now what the UK is seeing is a pretty significant rise in flu hospitalizations and deaths over what they saw a year ago at this time. What happens in Europe is very likely going to be mirrored here in North America You know, a lot of times we follow or we make predictions about the flu season based on what happened in the southern hemisphere. This past year, the southern hemisphere had a pretty predictably bad season so we're not anticipating a season that's worse for us here, Ellison than previous years but this is coming. This is the time that we start to see that uptake. Vaccination rates aren't that great for people under the age of 65 only 22% are getting vaccinated it's not good enough

37:46 Usually this year we're targeting at about 50% of adults getting vaccinated. As we mentioned for kids, 39% are getting vaccinated this year. That's significantly lower than last year and much too low but we have time to make it up. Flu season is early. We are not nearly out of the woods yet If you get vaccinated now, you'll be protected for the holidays. Oh yeah this is the message! You don't want to be in a quaddemic like those limeys... Get vaccinated!! When you look at the quaddemic in the United Kingdom and the impact of RVS RSV norovirus flu and COVID should Americans look at that and say okay? I think she said it wrong, didn't she? Yeah at first. Norovirus flu and COVID should Americans look at that and say okay it's time now even if we missed what we thought was the window to get vaccinated for the flu or COVID we should all still go 100 percent. Oh yeah! A hundred percent you missed a window take this shot anyway Flu and COVID It is definitely not too late RSE is one-and-done so when they're older and you got the RSE Remember J&J one-and-done uh huh? The vaccine last year

38:50 Great, you're protected. You don't need to get that repeated. Norovirus the most common culprit of foodborne illness in this country hand-washing hand washing and staying home if you're sick. You certainly don't want to get more than one of these bugs at the same time. You're gonna feel pretty crummy So here's the LA report This is also on NBC and they've Dr.. Vin Gupta coming in But they make it, they know that they're full of crap. They know what they're doing. They know that they are bending their knee to their big pharma overlords get the shot and so they put this package together and then the news model guy he can't stop laughing about it all into the segment. What did we eat?

39:34 Sinks are gone already! What are you doing? It's coming out of me like lava! For real though, health officials say at least 80 people got sick with norovirus. After eating raw oysters, Santa Monica Seafood, one of the vendors for the event tells NBC News they found no evidence of mishandling but officials are still investigating. Now the FDA is warning that a bigger outbreak linked to oysters and clams originally from British Columbia were shipped to the country is ongoing and they have since been recalled. NBC News medical contributor Dr. Vin Gupta joins us now. Doctor Vin Gupta thanks for being with us

40:13 Was a bad choice to show that clip because it's not funny to have a virus so let me just Reset here. This is a nightmare I've had norovirus before like how quickly can something like this spread? Got you good evening, and I prescribe the glass of water for you we should You know something about norovirus is exactly that. It spreads quickly, unfortunately cruise ships we often hear about the cruise ship nightmare where norovirus is in one of say in the buffet or in the raw salad and it spreads quickly and part of reason is that it sticks onto our hands sticks on to food

40:55 And it's hard to kill. And so that's why we're seeing this in oysters, it's not surprising and can happen from time to time. The fact that it's spreading especially from these distributors is frankly unsurprising but unfortunately just doesn't mean a lot of people get really sick. So this norovirus... Is it seasonal thing? No isn't it just happens when it happens I mean where does it come from It just happens when it happens Well, it's happening in Canada. So I would like somebody to find for me, define some of it. Somebody has archives of old shows. I would like to see one piece of evidence from a decade ago just 10 years not a lot not 20 not 50 about ten years ago where anyone ever mentioned RSV

42:03 Yeah, I don't think we have it. I don't think you can find it from five years ago! Well no... Here's one from 2016? Here's 2016. Let's see what this is. Hold on. The party was only supposed to be for family and friends, but tens of thousands descended on a small town in Mexico Monday for a teenage girl's traditional 15th birthday celebration after the invitation video was accidentally posted publicly by... Oh I'm sorry that's RSVPs no here is one from... I don't have anything before 2021. Not that I have in my clip archive, so I think you'll find anything is this is a bullshit deal was continued on there because they're going to have some value or they had the vaccination. So it's all about vaccinations not about anything really. That's right and that's yeah. The common

43:00 common cold, the flu and RSV. With the colder weather and more indoor gatherings, respiratory viruses are on a gentle upswing across Canada. A gentle upswing? That's the Canadian version of uptick! And immunologists like Craig Jenney are worried. So what we're seeing across Canada is uptake in a number of these infections... According to latest numbers from the Public Health Agency of Canada released today COVID rates are holding steady while RSV or respiratory syncytial virus and influenza are on the rise pushing some Calgary hospitals over capacity. There has been at least in Alberta much reduced testing for infection so I think when we're looking at actual confirmed cases those numbers may be a little misleading very young children and the elderly are the most likely to get seriously sick from these viruses among

43:52 infants, RSV can lead to complications and hospitalizations while influenza can quadruple the risk of heart attack and triple the risk of stroke among those 65 and up. And flu cases are expected to increase really is a lot less urgency. Toronto pharmacist Serena Hanlon says, a month ago she was administering flu or COVID shots every 15 minutes that's changed now we're busier in October than we were compared to last year in October and then in December we noticed that it sort of just drops off on the cliff people who want their vaccines have already had them with so many Canadians coming together for the holidays Hanlon Bogosh and Jenny all say it's important

44:34 to try and limit the spread of viruses by avoiding gatherings if you're feeling unwell, and getting vaccinated. Yeah get vaccinated! This of course is all over the news And I could only find a 30 second clip Of really interesting big pharma news New this morning The largest pharmacy chain in the United States Is accused of filling unlawful prescriptions for opioids The Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against CVS For violating both the Controlled Substances Act and the False Claims Act. The filing alleges that over the past decade, the pharmacy knowingly filed or filled prescriptions that were not valid or legitimate It's also accused of filling dangerous quantities of opioids or prescriptions written by those known to be engaged in so-called pill mills CVS has denied those claims Shh! Don't talk about that

45:27 Well go back to the diseases. There's one that I don't think you caught in your in your listing when I miss ones I miss a disease Yeah, they're thinking this may have gotten by this is pretty new This is a plague a plague of walking pneumonia Just in time for the holidays, a rise in cases of a contagious lung infection across the country is causing alarm especially for parents of young children. Allie Rogan talks with an infectious disease specialist about what's behind the spike Older months usually mean more time indoors and higher rates of respiratory illnesses like the flu and COVID. But now, the CDC is tracking an uptick in cases- Uptick? Of so called walking pneumonia. The respiratory illness usually sickens school age children and teens but this year toddlers are being hit the hardest

46:15 Dr. Donald Dunford is the infectious disease specialist at Cleveland Clinic, Dr. Dunford thank you so much for being here what is walking pneumonia and how does it differ from other types of pneumonia? How do I get it when we talk about walking pneumonia versus a more classic case of pneumonia essentially that it's typically causing a more mild course of illness If you think about a typical case of pneumonia, you're going to see abrupt onset of symptoms. Whereas with walking pneumonia which is typically caused by bacteria called mycoplasma, you're going to see kind of gradual onset over few days leading to the illness so it's gonna be a few days where you start to feel poorly, you start to get a cough and you start to get fever and really over about three to five days you'll get a fever headache muscle aches and then start to get pretty bad cough within

47:02 Well, this is interesting. One of our pastor's kids at the church had walking pneumonia and really was like he wasn't feeling good for a couple days and he just wasn't getting better they went to the doctor. The doctor said oh you have walking pneumonia got some antibiotics and he was back on his feet it wasn't a huge deal Yeah, it's a walk in the morning. You got- you can walk! That's what this is called walking in the morning. You're wandering around and boogie woogie blues is the other half of that which you don't get that often Boogie Woogie Blues? Have you ever heard the song walking pneumonia and the boogie woogie blues? No, no. It's just for look at me. Yeah, it's probably That is foreign to you yeah because yeah the walking pneumonia So let's go I got these two more clips on it Let's go what do we know at this point about why toddlers and other young children are being affected by

47:51 so much this year as compared to previous years. When you think about mycoplasma, typically we see that about every three to five years there's a cyclical increase in cases So normally, no matter what happens every three to five years you see a rise. We really didn't see that rise that we expected during the COVID pandemic so I think right now because we have probably higher number of susceptible people and you tend to see that there's a lot of higher cases of severe illness which is why we're seeing it a lot in the toddler population. Wait wait, who's in the room with him? Is some crying baby? Yeah! Toddler pops not pops from toddlers.

48:31 Eh, eh, eh. We shouldn't walk in the muck? So these are... so I guess if you're a toddler then you're walking around. Technically it's possible. Higher cases of severe illness which is why we're seeing it a lot and the toddler population along with the classical school age population. Toddler population! This is clearly a new demographic The toddler population. I love this. It's great. Soon will be the toddler community In the toddler population along with the classical school-age population, which is usually the Population is most severely affected. How contagious is this? It is pretty contagious Wow listen to that insert Here in the script you gotta ask about contagiousness relation Which is usually the population really affected how can

49:22 How contagious is this? It is pretty contagious. So, you know the best way we look at this as far as the contagiousness is when you look at how it affects families and if it enters a family, you actually expect that about 80 percent of other kids in the family are going to get sick. About 40 percent of adults are gonna get sick And probably, you know all of us classically will get this probably three times in our lifetime. One time during our childhood one time when we're adults whether 20s 30s 40s and then probably one time when we're elderly So of course I have not heard John's clips as we never do that and so i'm hoping that in the final clip We at least someone will ask the question how concerned shall we be? And can we get a shot for it

50:11 It turns out that the shot, no. I'm stunned by this myself because they have antibiotics but i'm kind of disappointed in the previous clips you were playing because they were hinting around about mRNA shots for noro but they never came to any conclusion about it But I think their going to try and pull that stunt There's one for ya Given that we're talking about a post-COVID spike here, are we seeing similar increases in other respiratory illnesses as well or is it mainly confined to this one? Yes definitely. The other thing we've seen this year that has had a rather high spike in cases has been whooping cough

50:53 which is caused by a bacteria called Bordetella pertussis. And it's actually something we, most of us or all of us get vaccinated for when we get vaccinated for tetanus and diphtheria. Typically that similarly will have an increase in the number of cases about every four to five years but we've really seen a really high increase in the number of cases probably about three or four times what we would otherwise expect. Probably because of that, having the lack of that increased number cases and I guess the challenge to the population during the COVID years. And what should parents be looking for to spot whether this is walking pneumonia or something more similar to the common cold?

51:34 Well, I think what you're going to see in your kids. You know typically the common cold you're really not gonna have a fever with it A kid's gonna have a runny nose or gonna have a cough but they are going to seem otherwise well Your kid with mycoplasma They're more likely be complaining of feeling achy and they're gonna seem a little more rundown and typically It's gonna be associated with a fever And when that fever sort of persists a little bit longer than you would otherwise expect for the virus That's when you might start to worry about mycoplasma I think really whenever you see a child that's starting to act a little bit punky, starting to act a little run down and has a fever it's time to call your pediatrician. Check and see if they should get tested and if they would need antibiotics at that point. I didn't like how he kept saying microplasma this sounds like a setup for something

52:24 Microplasma. I don't even know what that is because it's been used as a generic term for unknown bacteria, yeah for years. Microplasma are bacteria that can infect different parts of your body your lungs skin or urinary tract depends on which type of micro plasma bacteria is causing your infection? Yeah this is from WebMD Yeah, since it's a generic term for we don't know what the hell it is. Yeah that's what sounds like by the way not to belabor the pharmaceutical industry but you know I made a couple of Ozempic jokes here and they were like huh? Like what and so it's not the marketing has not really kicked in but in The Netherlands do you know how their marketing Ozempic they are going to tell ya

53:23 So, the Dutch princesses... The daughters of the king and queen who I met at the... Remember? I met them at the castle. Yes! They're a little chubby You know just they're just chubby They are healthy chubby girls They are on Ozempic And everyone knows about it They're talking about oh yeah no way they're taking Ozempic That's the way to do it Yeah that's actually the way to do it It is good way to do it I think that... Yeah that convince everybody That's the way to go Alright, I know you have a presentation on the Christmas driver but before we get to that...

54:03 It was wonderful to follow this phony baloney shutdown nonsense, which of course we know is always phony baloney. It's been this way since the beginning of the show One time Trump actually did shut down the government But it's always all just in time and I loved this new trick Which was really interesting Okay so we strip everything out of the bill And then Trump puts in a negotiating tactic, oh but we want to remove the debt ceiling. So of course whether it was purposeful or whether they were being authentic and genuine of course there's Republicans like Chip Roy and Massey saying Oh no! We can't do that. We can't allow you to print anything you want. Okay well just take it out

54:51 So all of a sudden, Trump is running the show but all of a sudden he isn't running the show? Come on. It was so obvious what they were doing! Let's just get some... we'll put in a couple things for that you know, 100 million for the victims of the hurricanes. We'll put in some things here and there." And then for the farmers...and then we'll take out Trump's, oh but Trump is he's commanding everybody to do this! Well it's okay. He just wanted all the nonsense out just continue until March so we can figure it out again but the media had a very specific goal they want so badly

55:33 President elect Trump to get mad at Elon. Yeah, this has been good yes and you're over there and even but just a short period of time you were gone yeah It's gotten worse. Here is everybody sitting there going I would just give my background, and I don't have any clips Oh, but they're good They have gone on and on and on about all this is a bro man says they're gonna break up it's gonna be really bad when it happens and They got everything but the dead pool you haven't done that come up with them any betting When is they going to break up the two of them? It's gonna be nasty. Well, first I'll play the German Deutsche Welle news report where they start to hint at no this is all Elon it's all about Elon. Elon running the show not President Trump. In the United States lawmakers have approved a new spending bill to avoid a government shutdown The Senate dropped normal procedure to fast track a vote minutes after the midnight deadline had passed

56:36 Both Republican and Democrat lawmakers supported the new plan. It includes billions of dollars for disaster aid, farmers and funding for the US government until mid-March of next year but it did not include a condition that President Elect Donald Trump had demanded which is a change to the debt limit to allow the government to take on new debt The White House says President Joe Biden will sign the plan into law. So just how difficult was it for Democrats and Republicans to finally find a compromise and pass the budget? This was an unnecessary Herculean task

57:17 to get people Proposed this continuing resolution bill that had significant other pieces including reducing prescription drug prices restricting investments in China due to the Essentially detente or Cold War that is happening at least economically with China at this point But it was Elon Musk who jumped in the shadow president himself and said

57:57 made false statements about what was in the bill and very likely had issues with the restrictions on the China investment as his companies are heavily invested in China. Oh so that's what it was about. Yeah this is the twist they've been putting this on locally to PBS and LA. It's Musk is cozying up to China And he can't have any of that anti-China stuff in there, so that's the reason Musk was getting involved. It was because of China! Here is the mini cut... There are new concerns about Elon Musk growing influence over Donald Trump and perhaps I should say President Elon Musk will be exerting more influence over the House Republican Conference What is different here is Elon Musk having an influence on kind of day to day

58:45 operations and policy from the White House to Congress. He's a billionaire bully. Elon Musk has a lot of influence with Trump right now It's not Donald Trump asking for this, it is very clearly President Elon Musk asking for this. President Elon Musk? Oh yeah! They want him...to get mad at Musk so bad So bad they want it so bad Here's well the real backstory here is that musk has threatened because he's got so they know he's got more money than Soros Yeah to primary and he's threatened a first of all I threatened to primary all the Republicans had voted for the bill the original bills at 1500 page bill And then he posted recently that he's thinking about primarying Democrats with more moderate Democrats who were asshole Democrats, and so he

59:35 So this is what the real threat is, Musk and all his money. Oh yeah! That he can finance... He can literally do what he says and not even put a dent in his net worth Here's ABC who really laid it on thick because And this was before they had the deal of course This was their main talking point for awhile But they're taking out cancer research for kids These heartless Heartless, heartless bastards. Listen to the report they did. Government shutdown though is not the only consequence of a failed funding bill when Musk and Trump killed the budget deal cancer research for kids became collateral damage damaged families like the Goodmans understand all too well when Nancy Goodman lost her eight-year old son Jacob to an aggressive form of brain cancer she decided to spend the rest of her life fighting for the research treatments that

1:00:31 could have saved him. She thought she had secured that funding and then the tweets started." Okay, so that was just normal? MSNBC Alex Wagner oh man! For anyone who might not know this is Gabriella Miller. I was diagnosed when i was nine and you know once you get cancer... Please pay attention to the music to be a grown up. And you don't really have a childhood! And, you know less and less kids are going to have their childhood if awareness...if people don't raise awareness and raise funds.

1:01:31 A little over a decade ago, doctors discovered an inoperable tumor the size of a walnut in Gabriela's brain. Less than a year later she passed away but in the time that she had Gabriela lobbied the federal government to fund pediatric cancer research so that other kids like her and the future could have a fighting chance And the year after Gabriela's death, that funding got passed and President Obama signed it into law. But this year or this week renewing that funding was one of the things Republicans thought was too porky and too much of a special interest so it got cut. These horrible people Trump caused cancer. It got cut from the continuing resolution! It didn't get cut from anything else. Trump causes cancer That is your kid in kids

1:02:26 It's, it's this is so evil and this is a dead kid. I'll just bring her up throw some get the music you got the music yeah I got the music it's gonna be great piece that is your right despicable It's despicable and that's MSNBC. Then a funny thing happened on The View as it pertains to President-elect Trump and Elon Musk, and J.D. Lenz. And President Musk. And President Musk. Child so much is going on in the world it's quite wonderful! As DC barrels towards yet another government shutdown A bipartisan bill to keep the lights on was scrapped

1:03:06 And it has a lot to, a lot of folks asking who is in charge? Because I've been saying it for awhile. Yes you have. I think Elon Musk believes he's president. I do! Well you can call him vice president. I called him vice president and I called him president because I don't know what JD is doing I hardly ever, I don't remember the last time we even talked about J.D! You're right He's planning the presidency when they get rid of Trump So you think it's Musk Vance? Possible Hey, you know who? Stay away from the stairways. You know people put their leg out to trip you going down the stairs! Watch out! Now would you view that as a problem problematic statement that Whoopi made there about harming the president? Is she threatening the President or... Yeah do you think that's a statement that is a problem

1:04:07 Not for her. Well, the ABC lawyers thought so! They came back from the break... Okay I need to clean something up because my cat lays in wait for me on my stairs all the time. And that's what I was, I was thinking of that. I wasn't trying to indicate that they were actually standing there with their legs out hoping he would trip. It was light- Nobody wants anything done to the president. No it was lighthearted and its the holidays come on! My goodness You did not mean that anybody should hurt the president. No, I didn't. Of course not. OK. The thing about this show there is no way not to step in poo. There's no way to do it. There's no way not to do it so.

1:04:59 After that step, yeah. They're making all kinds of changes they dropped a bunch of episodes and some kids show that had trans kids There there completely they looked at their numbers Yeah Oh yeah that you probably right there saying You know and they have to be quick on the draw because a ABC or Disney is huge corporation got all kinds of little Got me if you look at their corporate structure. They just like hundreds of companies. Yeah Anyway, yeah they have to make these corrections that this shows these people who've got to go. They have to somehow I've always said I gave whoopie six months. I think about a month ago, so she's got five months left Okay well Who knows who knows but she's gone and then they had to get rid of Sonny Haastens and then the enjoy I guess makes the most money

1:05:52 It's a little what they're gonna do with her. Does Joy make the most money? I think she does, you know... Really? She has been there the longest too. Bring back Barbara Walters! Is she still alive? Is she still alive Barbara Walters? Do i look her up? I don't know if she is Alright, so this Christmas attack has been big news here and I presume you have a presentation just looking at some of your clips. Yes, I have a lot of clips and I think it's been misrepresented in a lot of different ways For sure considering what people are saying about it here yes What are they saying about there? Well they're saying that the messaging... So the messaging They're trying to make it sound like this guy was basically right wing nut job

1:06:37 And if you look at the protests in Germany, if you look at what people are saying no-no-no. They all just like deport they're like get rid of everybody! They are sick of all of it and do you know that most of these Christmas markets around Europe they have barriers now because of this very issue? In this tiny little town or this tiny little market didn't have them? No they had... no but this is actually explained in the reports Oh okay alright go They did have them But they weren't activated. Oh no, the they had them but they had a of an ambulance lane

1:07:17 That you could get through if you knew what you were doing. So, but they had them there too But these markets if people should look them up Christmas market Germany and look at the photos These things are elaborate and they're huge And there was in one of these German markets before this happened There were like a there was a whole Muslim protest against them the Christmas market in Germany Yeah, it's like because I don't like it yeah Well, that's very suspicious too. There is no reason for that but let's start with I got just a PBS This is the Christmas market PBS. This is the general 57 second this is all they had For the thing and then I'm gonna switch to the BBC where they actually try to analyze it got it wrong. I think

1:08:01 But let's go with Christmas market PBS. Germans are mourning the victims of an apparent attack at a Christmas market, church bells told in Magdeburg Germany at the exact time a man intentionally drove his car into a crowd of people last night killing five and injuring more than 200 A nine-year old child is among the dead The suspect surrendered to police at the scene. Officials say he's from Saudi Arabia and has lived in Germany for nearly 20 years A review of his social media accounts show he shared anti-Islamic statements and expressed support for Germany's far right, anti immigrant political party It is now important that we clarify the situation and that this is done with the utmost precision and accuracy. Nothing must remain uninvestigated, and of course we must understand the perpetrator his actions as motives so that we can respond with the necessary criminal and other consequences and we will. Investigators say the attack may have been motivated by anger over Germany's treatment of Saudi refugees

1:09:03 Okay, so that summarized it is probably the way they all summarize it and its in its horseshit But the BBC even went even further and did a huge elaborate thing And they this was over the weekend. It was presented by our show friend of the show Helena Humphrey she friend to the show Well, she follows us. Oh! But she obviously is not a friend of the show She wrote this scathing complaint about us or me actually Does she still follow you? Yeah I'm following both LinkedIn and Twitter by her Huh... Is she taking our material

1:09:42 No, she takes none of our material. Believe me. She in fact the one thing I had a one in it died kind of a semi interaction with her she was on LinkedIn and I ran into her profile I said did you follow in me and? She had She, her. On her LinkedIn profile and I know she had she, her on her Twitter thing too so I sent her a direct message linking to my essay that's on sub stack about he, her and how you can't get work if you do that shit because people see as some sort of nut ball. She never responded or said anything to me but I noticed after a month or so she took it off. So that's funny. Oh okay! You have influence good job

1:10:25 Yeah, good job. You're helping out the mainstreamers! Good job So she does this elaborate report and BBCN I think completely misses the point but they do the best job of missing the point by going deep into it This is Ex-Market At least five people were killed when a man drove through a crowd at high speed. And along with those five deaths, city officials say that 200 people have been injured many of them seriously or we can now name the suspect in the attack as Talib al-Abdul Mursun he is a 50 year old doctor from Saudi Arabia officials say that he appears to have been motivated by resentment to the treatment of refugees in Germany

1:11:10 rather than religion. The BBC has been told that the Saudi authorities passed on warnings about him. Well, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has visited the scene he's called what happened in Magdeburg quote a terrible act there are questions about security after it emerged this suspect drove through an entrance reserved for ambulances and official vehicles our correspondent Anna Foster is in Magdeburg As night fell, hundreds of people attended a vigil at the city's cathedral. A packed and somber affair. Some of the first responders were among the mourners. Chancellor Olaf Scholz sat next to Germany's president. 24 hours ago this market was packed with people but the laughter and celebration was cut devastatingly short

1:11:53 When a car sped through the crowds, killing five people and injuring 200 more. The car sped past us and the police ran after it other emergency services arrived evacuated people and diverted traffic People were still panicking and screaming That was bad That was actually better, that little segment was better than the PBS report. Let's go to two. We now know it used the rescue entrance to get into the square a gap deliberately left for ambulances to have access police say the deadly rampage lasted three minutes armed police quickly arrested a man a doctor

1:12:37 originally from Saudi Arabia but living here for nearly 20 years. His motive is still under question. As things stand at the moment, it looks as if the background to the crime could have been disgruntlement with the way Saudi Arabian refugees are treated in Germany. But what exactly is behind it is still under investigation Emotions are running high here. Alongside the sadness, there's an undercurrent of anger against politicians who some feel didn't make this place safe enough. Earlier today Chancellor Olaf Scholz came to lay a white rose and promise an investigation

1:13:16 It is a dreadful tragedy that so many people were killed and injured. We send our sympathy to those who are injured, and I express the solidarity of the entire country." Well in just the last few hours around 100 far-right protesters gathered in at the streets of Magdeburg. The march called for the remigration of immigrants living in Germany A Christmas market attack will likely add to the debate over security and immigration before national elections in February, with opinion polls showing the far-right Alternative for Germany party is likely to perform strongly. And while a motive for the attack is still unclear our security correspondent Frank Gardner has been looking into this suspect Talib al Abdulmohsen and alleged warnings from the Saudi government about him Yeah yeah I heard they had been warning about this guy

1:14:07 Well, there's also another story where a friend of this guy, an Arab from... Another Saudi woman who turned him into the cops and they paid no attention to her commentary. She said that he's gonna do this. And so here is what you write at this point is where you start saying yourself wait a minute yeah This guy supposedly did this is bull crap now this guy supposedly is right-winger who gave up on Islam and he's irked at the German government for not treating other Saudis who come over, who become atheists basically, and not treating them right. And so he's gonna plow into a

1:14:57 Christmas market full of Christians, it got nothing to do with anything. Something doesn't add up but let's continue with this narrative with the next clip They say that they passed four so-called notes verbal. These are official diplomatic notifications that they sent from Saudi Arabia to Germany, I don't have the dates for them unfortunately but they sent three of them to German intelligence agencies and one of them to the German foreign ministry warning about Talib Abdel Morsan's extreme views that he held now there were two sides this there is

1:15:36 a view taken by at least one respected counterterrorism expert that I know of, who's saying that this is something of a bit of a disinformation campaign he's even saying. That the Saudis tried to blacken his name – well it's pretty black right now obviously but trying to basically say that here was somebody who was dangerous back then Why? Because he was allegedly trying to help a number of people who had left Saudi Arabia and were either dissidents, political dissidents or people who were trying to turn their back on the Islamic faith. Saudi Arabia being very much a monolithic one

1:16:16 faith country, Islam. And this man Talib Abdul Mohsen had left his religion of his birthplace so in Islam you're not supposed to leave your religion and he has turned into somebody that the German interior minister federal interior minister Mr. Fraser has referred to as Islamophobic, and certainly some of the texts that... Some of the tweets that he posted in... That are being reported in German media are exactly that, Islamophobic So there were two sides this but it does seem that the Saudi authorities Were concerned about this man's extreme views. So they trying to make him sound like he is an AFD supporter? Is that what going on here?

1:17:02 Yeah, this is the idea. It seems to me it is to make it seem as though he isn't AF Is with a FPA FDA of the alternative for Deutschland? Oh yeah Okay FD The right-wingers of Germany who are trying to as we know our Nazis there they're Nazis They're no good. They also very popular it is for all practical purposes but not Yeah, they are actually So they're trying to make that out and I got two more of these little clips, and now get to the one That's important if you don't mind listening these other ones but this is we

1:17:39 We can go to this one, this one's actually been renamed kind of differently. This was Eximus Market 4. Well joining me live now is Rebecca Schoenenbach a counter-extremism consultant. Rebecca thank you very much for being with us I just want to begin by asking you what do you make the profile at the suspect? Is there anything that stands out to you? Thanks for having me What stands out most is that he seems to have suffered from a prosecution Complex so a lot of his tweets on... What? He means persecution. Prosecution complex? Persecution. Yes, he means persecution but her English is so mediocre that she keeps saying prosecution. Okay. Complex so a lot of his tweets on X, a lot of his direct messages show that he felt prosecuted by the German state and even by the police

1:17:02 Yeah, this is the idea. It seems to me it is to make it seem as though he isn't AF Is with a FPA FDA of the alternative for Deutschland? Oh yeah Okay FD The right-wingers of Germany who are trying to as we know our Nazis there they're Nazis They're no good. They also very popular it is for all practical purposes but not Yeah, they are actually So they're trying to make that out and I got two more of these little clips, and now get to the one That's important if you don't mind listening these other ones but this is we

1:17:39 We can go to this one, this one's actually been renamed kind of differently. This was Eximus Market 4. Well joining me live now is Rebecca Schoenenbach a counter-extremism consultant. Rebecca thank you very much for being with us I just want to begin by asking you what do you make the profile at the suspect? Is there anything that stands out to you? Thanks for having me What stands out most is that he seems to have suffered from a prosecution Complex so a lot of his tweets on... What? He means persecution. Prosecution complex? Persecution. Yes, he means persecution but her English is so mediocre that she keeps saying prosecution. Okay. Complex so a lot of his tweets on X, a lot of his direct messages show that he felt prosecuted by the German state and even by the police

1:18:33 and he accused other secular Muslims or ex-Muslims of also prosecuting him. And it is true that he defamed some of them, and they had to sue him in court, and they won. So it seems to be a mixture accusing others, then feeling that they go after him. Feeling suppressed by the German state. That is the most significant thing that stands out apart from his hatred of Islam and his fandom of Elon Musk and the far-right AFD in Germany

1:19:12 Yeah, okay. So when they say ex-Muslims in this context is he talking about Muslims who are no longer Muslims or Muslims who tweet on X? A little confusing Well it doesn't really make any difference and we start listening to this bullcrap and just follower of Elon Musk They throw that in I could have put some sound effects in here to emphasize what she's going on about but this is the light This is the last of these clips and BBC goes through a really elaborate process here to try to sell us on this idea that this guy is some sort of right-wing nut because they bring out first they bring in that other guy then they bring out this guy and then he makes it you try to come to some conclusion. He hates Islam! And all the rest of it, and so play this and then kickers coming So tell us more about that with regards to Elon Musk for example I just wonder more generally when you're looking at kind of cases

1:20:08 extremism, and of course we don't know the motive here. But to what extent are we seeing for example conspiracy theories or misinformation in the amplification of that feeding into those kind of beliefs? Well he was an advocate for re-migration so you was a staunch critic not only of Islam but of any sort of migration to Germany but particularly the migration of Muslims, of Muslim countries And he favored people who were known as critics of Islam, not only of Islamism but also such as Tommy Robinson in Great Britain. He retreated some of Elon Musk's takes

1:20:52 He didn't particularly retreat all the right-wing extremism theories. So it does not seem that his whole worldview was right wing extremism, he also tweeted a lot about sexual abuse. He tweeted a lot about women's rights some facts that are really to be criticized for anybody advocating for women's rights, but he mixed it with theories with conspiracy. But most outstanding were his own perception of the German state of the treatment of refugees off the German police and even accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him. I love the heavy handedness on Musk is pretty good. I like that. Yeah this is like a worldwide effort these things are all

1:21:43 Seem to be worldwide. They're afraid of him because they see what he was his power is King Musk He's the president there So then I run into this and we've had you know, even a dude named Muhammad. I think that's just completely wrong This woman who is fairly famous on the social she's an Iranian German name morale And she does these kinds of takes on things and this is the this clip as the Xmas attacker Takiyah, which is a technique used by Shia Muslims to lie and she outlines what this guy's really all about as far as she is concerned. And this is the only thing that rings true I want to address the misinformation spreading about Talib al-Abdul Mohsen, the terrorist behind the Christmas market attack in Magdeburg Germany

1:22:38 Contrary to some claims, he was neither an atheist nor an ex-Muslim. Taleb Fawzi portrayed himself as an atheist ex-Muslim and victim of the Saudi regime while simultaneously accusing the German government of prosecuting female Saudi asylum seekers and promoting agenda to Islamize Europe His identity as a radical Shia Muslim is evident, even from his name which explains his hostility towards Saudi Arabia and his wicked jihadi agenda.

1:23:14 Leaked tweets and chat screenshots now circulating on IGS reveal his connection to radical Islamist networks, including a counseling to ISIS. And ex-Muslim organizations and activists on IGS have also reported receiving direct threats from Talib. Ask yourself why would an atheist threaten ex Muslims? It doesn't make sense This is a classic example of Takiyah. Islamic practice that allows Muslims to lie and deceive, to advance Islamic goals or agendas. Talib's false narrative designed to sow division chaos and terror reveals the psychopathy and manipulative nature of a jihadist. His actions seek to destabilize and confuse society, to paralyze any meaningful response to radical threats

1:24:12 By portraying himself as a victim of Sunni Saudi Arabia, who he from his radical Shia perspective considers fake Muslims. He furthers both his jihadist goals and his sectarian battle. Individuals like Talib have no loyalty to earthly life Their pseudo-masochistic lives are entirely devoted to preparing for Judgment Day, where the infidel will finally suffer eternal torture and hellfire while they will be rewarded in paradise for their earthly sacrifices complete with the infamous promise of 72 virgins.

1:24:53 Without a doubt, Talib is not an atheist. For terrorists like him life is a temporary means to serve his violent apocalyptic vision of divine will Well I say that makes sense. It not only makes sense and people should look up taqiyya which is spelled T-A-Q-I-Y-Y-A, which is a practice that was discussed quite a bit after 9 11 and it has more to do with Shia Muslims than it does the Sunnis And it is a practice of lying for purpose. And this guy, she goes on in her particular... after this is released, somebody put together a thread of her discoveries on both different chat rooms and elsewhere of all his commentaries. They're all radical! They're all extremist Shiite stuff

1:25:51 And this narrative of him being a right winger, he's a left winger. Completely? His being a right-winger is just bogus! This whole story is a complete cover up of what's really going on here that they don't want to talk about Wow and that was still in her BBC interview that bit about Takiyah or was there something else? No no this was separate. This was completely separate. Okay okay. Standalone This woman's standing, that wasn't on BBC. No the BBC is going with the right-winger Musk Trumps bad I mean Helena Humphreys is a Trump hater so she'd be fitting right in with this no problem and The whole BBC narrative was just to make it as part of the cover up Wow now It's also possible that just completely stupid and they just immediately think Oh X Twitter Trump but

1:26:46 Musk. Don't forget Musk! he really belongs into this conspiratorial narrative category of extremists, which had been growing quite significantly since the corona epidemic and social media companies are really not doing anything against those people. They are not quite effective in preventing Islamist terrorism content which they know best but conspiratorial narratives such as this especially individualized conspiratorial narratives because he also felt personally persecuted by the German police, is something that these companies simply don't look at and the German security forces neither have the legal mandate nor the resources to monitor the entire internet all the time. Oh so because... The narrative here is because Musk fired the trust and safety team

1:27:44 No one could figure it out. If no one was paying attention, they should have taken his tweets down! Let's just blame X. Yeah but I mean even if you had monitored the internet and seen his conspiracy theories... ...you wouldn't think they would lead to a violent act like this would ya? Well, not necessarily. But he did say he is going to do an attack. He did say that he's going to take revenge so there were clear formulations but the problem is and this is always a difficult thing of assessment for the security forces to go over Unfortunately, because the big social media companies in this case X where all of this material is have not gotten better but they reduced their content monitoring capabilities and investment. You have so much hatred and so many fantasies of violence on the internet that it's really hard to distinguish what it's just a person that is disturbed

1:28:39 disturbed ideas out on the internet and which one of those is a person that then gets into a car and plows through Christmas market. I take your point that there were some worrying signs online, basically he was anti-system? Is that the sort of broadcaster... Blah blah blah so i really like your analysis of this And they're just running in the other direction They're like hey you know Musk He doesn't check stuff If he hadn't fired everybody then this wouldn't have happened Yeah, it's his fault. Somehow it's President Musk's fault. That's really bad. It's really bad that mainstream media is not doing its job but they're not supposed to do their job they're supposed to sell drugs yeah yes

1:29:27 Yes, so you know they get you in the right mood. You go take some you know get nervous and all worked up I mean some of that I have some tick-tock clips we can play in the second half of this show But we were people all work well Hold on hold on I'm gonna set you up for your tick tock clips before we take a break And we have a long donation segment because we have two shows and people supported both shows that was very nice I have a couple of TikTok clips here. Where are my TikTok clips? Because, you know we're coming down to the wire... Wait wait what no i don't have TikTok clips from Tiktok! Oh.. I have clips about Tiktok which will set you up for TikTok You see? See what I'm doing here yeah okay hold on

1:30:13 I'm waiting for you to finally cave. Good luck, good luck! Where's my TikTok clips? Hold on it's got to be... Oh i'm sorry here I am trying to set you up big let me see TikTok okay this is under uh what is this under Oh my... You know, the problem is it's so small on this screen that I just can't see it anymore. Your eyes are going! Well there's that Big Tech No, I had it under This is maddening. I can't actually see it But I know I stuck them in here What does? Oh here we go Here we go Okay, I'm sorry

1:31:04 ABC Good Morning America. so the government probably has a stronger argument going into this. the argument from bite dance or tick tock is this is a first amendment issue, right? they're stopping us from engaging in free speech. the government saying this isn't about speech, it's regulating a foreign government who is gathering data on americans and remember that as a practical matter foreign

1:31:48 individuals aren't allowed to own broadcast licenses, for example in this country already. And so their position is this really isn't significantly different than that it just depends on how you look at the case remember there's also the TikTok users also filed a separate lawsuit also part of this it's being heard let's just reiterate the no agenda stance on this because it's not like Tik Tok is gathering any more data than Google or Meta or X for that matter don't forget probably less Probably less, and this is in our mind looking at the bill who co-sponsored the bill who got the most money from in fact Google more than anybody were senators and congressmen.

1:32:31 who got a lot of donations for their campaigns from Google. And this has always been about competition, these guys are eating Silicon Valley's lunch they've got a whole different algo which is really what people want to get rid of because this algo works like you know people loving the TikTok so this is nothing about that and I should mention based on that clip you just played broadcasters are licensed by the government yes The social media networks are not licensed and they're not subject to the same rules and regulations. And so, to make that analogy which lawyer did is bull crap. Well I'm thinking... So there is a Supreme Court has because I got an analysis from Rob the constitutional lawyer. The Supreme Court has said okay look you can come in on the 10th of January everyone has to write their 13 thousand word essay so something's going to go down

1:33:27 We're not quite sure what, and if the Supreme Court will look at all of this and have an opinion before the January 19 deadline. I'm thinking Trump is using this as a chit because he doesn't like how Silicon Valley has op... certainly Google and things that how they portray him there's a lot of personal issues he has He just doesn't like them per se so he may be using this as it as a chit or chip against them I got two more short clips. The court is moving fast, though. OK so the court will hear the case what nine days before the deadline to sell they've chosen not to pause the law So what do you read it to that? And what about the TikTok users What if the ban does go into effect It seems pretty clear The courts moving quickly They've expedited this I'd expect something from them in the relatively near future TikTok users accounts are not going to get zapped right They're not gonna just

1:34:22 go away. Tick tock still going to be there? The question is going to be who can see it, who can use it? How can they use it? Those are the sorts of questions that's different. What Yeah Who can see what does that even mean I don't know I don't know I can use it and you can't I don't know I mean that's what it sounds like let's listen to the last clip and we know by the way wait wait That's a very whatever because of what we just said right there. That shows that the analysis they're doing stinks and we know that Donald Trump met with a TikTok CEO this week at Mar-a-Lago, he said he had the warm spot now for TikTok is there anything he can do with this out of his hands? So January 19th this goes into effect he takes office January 20th but

1:35:12 he still could have a big impact. Number one, he could tell his attorney general don't enforce this at all so that could be some level of reassurance He could also seek to try and get Congress to repeal it You can also try and delay it So you have some options here if he decides to be on TikTok's side But didn't want him banned at one point? He did correct in its first administration by executive order tried to ban it seems he changed his position What do you think what are you thinking at this point what's going happen I think is the free speech issue period And it's just that, it's like and its also anti-competitive. Well what they're saying... Which is what your point is which is the anti competitive nature of it because it kicks ass and so this is what the real issue is because oh god these guys are eating our lunch

1:35:59 And God knows what else can happen. I mean, we're already gonna have trouble in our search engines because of the damned AI stuff. These guys are freaked and so they're looking for government help us stay in business because we're incompetent boneheads. Talk, talk, TikTok! All right everybody time for John's TikTok clips of the day. What's a guy with that? I got four of them. Oh, oh boy start with it I'm gonna start with this one which is one that said she is already past due because of this guy There's some jerk that's uh, and this is under not undertalk but talker This is the dude Lip and this is a guy who comes on in he's he's a Trump hater. Okay, and he just really this is a two-minute tick tock clip

1:36:51 It's worth it. This is the only long clip I have today. Oh man, alright set it up! This guy is gonna tell us that Trumps not going to get in office because you know this is... if it wasn't for Jamie Raskin was gonna stop him but but there's gonna be something that's gonna happen on the 20th and that's gonna prevent every, oh wait a minute. Oh I guess I recorded this like day before the 20th and now what is today? Today, I don't know 22nd. Yes, 22nd. And it hadn't happened but okay there's a backup plan. Here's what we're going to do. This guy is such a glib he's kind of like a working class looking guys when he's so glib and convinced

1:37:35 Trump got into some nefarious means and everybody hates him, and we're gonna fix it. Guys don't forget it's We The People okay? We have executive order coming out 13848 right It's going to be implemented, it has been out Donald Trump helped create it And its going to come back to bite them in the ass because what is does is says how do we have to proceed when we realize that there has been outside interference In our elections There definitely has been They're going to reveal that on the 20th of December because 45 days from November 6 brings us to December 20, which is six days from today. So next, that's coming Friday so have a great weekend do your laundry

1:38:19 Hang your stuff out if you can, change the sheets to your bed. Go grocery shopping and get everything set up go to church tomorrow or don't pray at home hold hands love the ones you're with be good to yourselves and let's get our country back right next week The Friday I have a feeling this executive order 13848 will be implemented And if not month from then December 20th to January 20th the day of the inauguration We the people are going to have To show up in Washington and have this guy step down The 3% rule states that if you have three percent of a world's part of a group of people's population three percent of a particular Population if they gather en masse, they can change everything. So we have 330 million Americans 10% of that is

1:39:11 33 million and what's a third of that? 11 million. 11 million of us have to show up on Washington DC on January 20th and have this guy step down he'll see eleven million people talk about a crowd, he'll have a coronary and will have to step down we gotta do it and we can't depend on the people out west God bless, but for those of us here in New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts Long Island Connecticut everybody we got to converge on Washington black white trans LGBTQ2 drag queens peacefully cohesively We're going to meet and have this guy step down on January 20th. That's our failsafe

1:39:50 I would pay good money to see 11 million trans and drag queens show up in Washington. I could sell tickets to that one. I would too, actually. Executive order 13-848 imposing certain sanctions in the event of a foreign interference in the United States election. All right so I guess that didn't happen. Bummer! So this delusional character is you just have to wonder at because he's dead... He's very sincere But what you know, this is the this is what goes on in that side. It's the same thing as here's a here's the talk Talk 2025 gal How does it feel to those people who voted for Donald Trump? To know that he is now accepting the fact that he is in fact the endorser of Project 2025 I'm not sure what other evidence you needed. I mean we all told you He told you also his name is listed in the document hundreds of times

1:39:11 33 million and what's a third of that? 11 million. 11 million of us have to show up on Washington DC on January 20th and have this guy step down he'll see eleven million people talk about a crowd, he'll have a coronary and will have to step down we gotta do it and we can't depend on the people out west God bless, but for those of us here in New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts Long Island Connecticut everybody we got to converge on Washington black white trans LGBTQ2 drag queens peacefully cohesively We're going to meet and have this guy step down on January 20th. That's our failsafe

1:39:50 I would pay good money to see 11 million trans and drag queens show up in Washington. I could sell tickets to that one. I would too, actually. Executive order 13-848 imposing certain sanctions in the event of a foreign interference in the United States election. All right so I guess that didn't happen. Bummer! So this delusional character is you just have to wonder at because he's dead... He's very sincere But what you know, this is the this is what goes on in that side. It's the same thing as here's a here's the talk Talk 2025 gal How does it feel to those people who voted for Donald Trump? To know that he is now accepting the fact that he is in fact the endorser of Project 2025 I'm not sure what other evidence you needed. I mean we all told you He told you also his name is listed in the document hundreds of times

1:40:50 And, not only that there were video footage of him endorsing the Heritage Foundation and their little Project 2025 manuscript which is now your new Bible. Get used to it! I mean he literally said to you If you vote for me this time, you'll never have to do that again. Here we are! Just a reminder Hitler was the product of democracy Democracy's really only work friends if the people in charge are not lunatics and they follow the rules And Donald Trump is in fact a fucking lunatic and thank you so much I'm so excited for the next four years of my life

1:41:31 You know, these people are the last of the Mohicans. They're dying off I mean you know they just they're trying desperately trying to get some clicks and some likes Last of them all right don't think this is gonna that's a good interesting analogy well here's Rosie O'Donnell Well there's that what can we say about Elon Musk? How did this happen? How is this allowed to happen? How is the richest man in the world allowed to buy the presidency, how and where are the scholars and where are the lawyers. And where are the poets and political commentators who are going to not normalize this insanity it is absolutely insane

1:42:21 Those Tesla cars are so ugly. She throws that in gratuitously at the end! She should move to the Coswalt's with Ellen, go live there I hear the weather is great So to get off the Trump musk thing, now we have to generalize TikTokers that have dumb things to say and we'll start with the Gen Z idiot. How does it feel to those people who voted for Donald Trump? To know that he is now accepting the fact that he is in fact the endorser of Project 2025 I'm not sure what other evidence you needed

1:43:02 I mean we all told you, he told you. Also his name is listed in the document hundreds of times and... Skip this one this is actually basically the same clip Yeah yeah Okay that's not the one I wanted Here's your kicker This is the last one This is a kicker everybody get ready John takes off clips of the week This is woman guy gal He they she it I don't know Got blue lips Blue lipstick Fat And tri-gender. Tri gender? Okay, here we go! I am tri gender which means like a triangle i have three genders male female and non binary and the difference between trigender and gender fluid is that i feel all three of these genders at the same time

1:43:48 all the time. It doesn't ever shift or change, or where I feel one gender more strongly than the other like gender fluid tends to be Also i should recognize and accept that a lot of people don't see non-binary as a third gender they see it as something completely separate from the binary of male and female but for me it's like a third gender Or I guess you could call it a third identity Oh John, oh John. Please I'd ask everybody to not encourage John telling him these clips are great on email because it only gets more of this... I'm sorry you dropped out. No, I'm asking people not to encourage me. Can you hear me? You noticed that people are encouraging me! They need to stop this they need to stop this because this is hurting the show at this point

1:44:44 It's hurting the show. It's killing this show! Tina was actually... Well here is a clip that is similar but not the same. Wait, there are more? Well this isn't really a TikTok clip but it's a good clip that's along the same dumb lines This is Daniel Baldwin on the Diddy tapes. Look at Diddy, for instance. Let's take a look at him. Let's take a look at... He has videos! He has videos of the parties. Now, what I've heard which I don't know how much of it is in mainstream media...I don't really follow the story that much but what I've heard from friends that are attorneys and friends of mine that have represented me before agents and so on is there's a bidding war going on right now they're driving that price up because if you want your client and your famous actor to not be involved or famous singer to not come out

1:45:41 Here's the price and that they're just selling to the individuals that are in those this is what I heard They're selling those videos. So if you are Tommy X and Tommy X is a big big movie star, and he was at some of the ditty parties He was one of those bedrooms with three other men And he's happily married to woman and but Tommy doesn't want that video to come out. He does not want it to come out same thing for Jeffrey Epstein now that the interesting thing about The Epstein in the theory about Epstein is we know he filmed people for sure on that island? He has a lot of movies a lot of films or people that are very very powerful political figures and entertainers businesspeople so

1:46:21 Do you really believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? And of course not. Okay, so there's other theories that he's in Lebanon and he never died at all having the weight of owning those films right now over people. So will Donald Trump release those films? Oh I believe Donald Trump probably has a lot of friends that are in those videos too. I don't know if it behooves him to release them either but what happens Iconic African Americans are iconic Japanese Americans or iconic? Anglo-americans who I mean former presidents, you know what happens if they're in those videos. What does that do to

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2:20:02 as the one, the CNN journalist who freed the torturer. Forever! It's a black mark on her resume. Well it's like Geraldo in the El Capone vault. The empty safe. Basically the same thing. Yes. CNN by the way... this is the second hotel we've been in No longer at the airport hotel in Amsterdam and not in this hotel in Italy either. CNN, CNN International nothing! They're not on the system I found that very peculiar Bad management

2:20:41 You have the bad hotel management or about a CNN management? No, it's CNN. They should be you know, they shouldn't allow this they should have they had dot they dominating Spaces all of their and all them they did yeah airports and there were all over that were Europe you do can't couldn't turn on TV without getting CNN international So here's just a little fun thing We haven't been following it very closely but Justin Trudeau is under some real pressure He's got people from his cabinet resigning. It's kind of unclear why? I mean, do you have any clues to what is going on? I've got nothing! No Well, I do have two people speaking to Sir Trudeau saying how much they hate him

2:21:33 And apparently that's just out there. You've sold us out to globalism, you are not working for Canada! You are working for your globalist partners I wonder how much they're paying you to betray Canada? What do we do with traitors in Canada Mr Trudeau?! We used to hang them Hang them for treason and you're doing that very same thing to us now King Trudeau what gives you the right to continue? What gives you the right to stay in office You failed Canada. You've ruined our country. You're done walk away. You don't have an ounce of your father's integrity At least he walked in this know

2:22:12 You've ruined this country! Everyone around you is running from you. They're abandoning you, Chrystia Freeland, Sean Frazier they've all left you it's time for you to go it's time for Canada to have an election you're not the king. You are not the King there's a lot of talk about him resigning yes I wish we knew what was going on. I don't know what changed, it's just...I wish a Canadian would give us a briefing on why this swapped out so quickly and they could have been...this should have been going on during the trucker strike! I don't get it? They're just mad now. Now they're mad. Now they're mad. I dunno. Odd. Very odd. This is Syrian news because Syria is a problem. Yeah, uh... What was that reading that after Blinken everyone went to Damascus

2:23:04 Apparently the US had a 10 million dollar bounty on this guy's head and like, oh no it's okay we're dropping that now. You're good Yeah they dropped the bounty because he is not in charge They must have done some sort of backdoor deal. Something happened, yes but let's play these digits from the BBC again Helena. Now Syria's new rulers have begun appointing key ministers two weeks after the fall of Bashar al-Assad The European Union, the UK France and United States have all sent delegations to the Syrian capital Damascus with US scrapping a 10 million dollar award for the arrest of Syria's de facto leader, Ahmed al-Sharaa. Well as the regime change continues to take shape I've been speaking with the director of the Syria Conflict Research Program at the London School of Economics Dr Reem Tokmani. Reem thank you so much for being with us once again here on BBC News very good to see you before we delve deeper into that question of the transition now in Syria i'd just like to begin by talking about how people in the country

2:24:04 are currently faring. Can you give us an idea when it comes to their humanitarian needs, infrastructure and so on? How are people doing? The daily lives of ordinary Syrians right now vary significantly depending on the region. So in areas many of the areas that were previously under regime control like Homs, Hamara Damascus there's a sense of relief that the Syrian regime is gone. However, in the coastal areas and part of the countryside fear persists about the future what might hold and potential retribution in the northeast which is under SDF control there is also tension fears about potential clashes with Turkey backed forces

2:24:48 But despite of the regional differences, the one common thread that unites most Syrians is really the daily struggle to survive. If you look just before the fall of the Assad regime already we had about 17 million people required humanitarian aid 90% of the Syrians were in poverty and around 13 millions were food insecure I don't believe a word of this. You know, and the more you and I talk about it the more people get mad at me? Like you have no idea what he did! You have NO IDEA how bad he was! Well... The international community- It's an exercise. And we have to harken back to the earlier days when there used being visited by all the Hollywood celebrities and everything was getting mowed up over the place

2:25:44 So I went to Flickr, which is still there and they still have all the... And looked up Damascus Syria. I looked at different photos of people tourists looking of the areas and I don't see 90% you look around they disguise are going all over the place flicker is really a good resource for looking at pictures that Normal people go, you know snapshots and there's just these pictures. I don't see any evidence of 90 percent They're big markets. So I don't see any evidence of ninety percent food insecurity I don't see any of that stuff to what this guy just said

2:26:25 I don't understand. Maybe it's on Holmes and we just weren't getting that information? You got pictures of Holmes? Homes, uh it was pretty much all over the country pictures hmm And you don't see anything that implies what this guy just said I just well It seems like a pack of lice and the fact that this guy that was had a 10 million dollar bounty Which is not trivial no on his I mean they only had $50,000 for them or their health care shooter Yeah Ten million dollars on his head and now all of us are nice fine and dandy. This is this is an op

2:27:04 There's clip two. And these numbers have deteriorated after the fall because of many infrastructure collapsed, there is still a struggle for daily services people are getting hardly an hour of electricity especially in areas that were under illusion control. There is a price hike as well so So the sudden change in the regime also meant a change in the economy. The regime had subsidy over basic commodities like bread, fuel and now this has been lifted so suddenly the price of bread went up tenfolds overnight. The cost of commuting went

2:27:47 We have seen a number of international delegations visiting Syria this week, including representatives from here in the United States. Have we learned anything new about the discussions, about any kind of perhaps provisional agreements or at least how those governments will interact with each other after those visits? We don't know much about the meeting with head of HTS but We know that on the table there were issues like lifting the prescription of HTS as a terrorist organization, also lifting the sanctions and providing international assistance for reconstructions. I didn't learn much from that

2:28:42 Yeah, there's international assistance for construction. That's kind of like okay oil gas at the gas pipeline Qatar pipelines something like that Maybe the whole thing is sketchy well then I'm surprised anyone gets mad at us for this analysis Oh, yeah It's been sketchy forever you have to know that he had hundreds of thousands of prisoners and he was incinerating them in underground ovens Yeah, this is what I'm being told but we never heard this before ever. Uh...I don't know why! Okay, this was kind of interesting for reasons that I don't think everyone really realized Igor Kirillov the guy who uh who was killed? The Russian?

2:29:33 Oh yeah, this is interesting. Exactly! This is good. Yeah let's have a couple of clips here that take a little backgrounder here... Turning now to some breaking news out of Russia where the bloodshed from the Ukraine war has now reached the front door of the Kremlin Take a look at this video which appears to show the assassination of Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov The head of Russia's chemical radiological and biological weapons unit happening just miles from the Kremlin. Ukraine's security service claimed responsibility for the killing The explosive device was planted in a scooter next to the entrance of a Moscow apartment building, and the blast killing both Kirilov and his assistant NBC's Keir Simmons has the details

2:30:21 Even the timing is dramatic. Just yesterday, Ukraine charged Lieutenant General Karelov with war crimes. Today they say they have killed him in Moscow. Russian media reporting a bomb was taped to the handle of a scooter Yeah, it was quite dramatic and of course we had video of it. I think this report also has a NatPop. This morning in Moscow, a dramatic explosion killing a key Russian general and his assistant the blast so powerful It blew the bricks from the walls And the remains of a scooter. It was loaded with explosives Ukraine says An operation both audacious and precise, the bomb detonating as he moved between a building and a car. And Ukraine's most ambitious assassination deep inside Russia since the war began. Lieutenant General Igor Kurylov was chief of the Russian Army's chemical weapons division. He was sanctioned by the U.K. in October for the alleged use of chemical weapons in Ukraine

2:31:21 According to a Ukrainian security source briefed on the matter, Kirillov was an absolutely legitimate target since he gave orders to use prohibited chemical weapons against the Ukrainian military. Such an inglorious end awaits all who kill Ukrainians. The source asking for anonymity because they aren't authorized to discuss it publicly. Russian state television leading with news of the killing saying that bomb was remotely operated It comes as the war started after Russia invaded Ukraine enters its third year. Both sides still taking massive losses already, Russian investigators are calling the bombing an act of terrorism but they will be under pressure to explain another high profile assassination in the Russian capital So this is all kind of standard reporting I don't for a minute buy that somehow Ukraine is able to kill this guy in Moscow But This next clip

2:32:19 leads me into some interesting things this guy has been saying that might explain this assassination. Karelov was just charged on Monday by Ukraine for using banned chemical weapons during Russia's invasion, we know he was a big player in Russia's propaganda apparatus constantly spreading lies about Ukraine and America. He once claimed the US in fact was planning to use drones designed to spread infected mosquitoes and as the head of the biological weapons unit he was accused of using a riot control gas against Ukrainian troops that caused extreme irritation and pain in eyes and lungs just bigger picture here. What does this mean for the Russian war effort and Kremlin's overall goals do you think?

2:33:06 Well, I think they're going to focus their attention on the battlefield. They are making progress like I suggested by the way General Karilov was also accused of using not just riot control agents CS and CN but also nitro chloroform which was used in the first world war and is banned uh... by the chemical weapons treaty two-inch uh... russia has a signatory Okay, so oh tear gas. Oh my goodness how horrible teargas they use CS gas I might add during the riots at Berkeley in this in the late 60s on the students we used that our citizens here What's the big deal? But it was some things he said on Russia you heard about the mosquitoes from drones That was interesting and I have here some audio which I will translate in real time

2:33:56 of Krylov on Russian television. So the reporter says, the growth in illnesses caused by atypical infections has been noted in a number of countries right now so can we say that this is the result of some help from American biologists? And he answers, We cant say this indiscriminately, we are public officials after all as for biological weapons if we assess the damage caused by COVID over the course of two years and around the world. The reporter says, the main pandemic lasted 2 years he says it cannot even be compared with the damage from World War II It is dozens of times greater However those who make the profits such as big pharma He says do you mean all the pharmaceutical companies? And he says yes! The profits of the pharma companies which are mainly in the US are colossal That's the way it is So that's the first clip

2:34:49 And then the second clip, the reporter says so the question is he says the question is being asked we provide documents. Oh! The reaction of the USA that we are talking about as typical there has not been a single refutation of the documents we presented We sent more than 2,000 pages of these documents to United Nations I presume he's talking about the documents that were found About bio labs in Ukraine Yes, I think there were 11 of them. Yes the reporter says what sort of reply did you receive? Kirillov says we usually get two replies a standard one from the USA is all that has done is in the interest of the national security of the USA and you have to trust us

2:35:29 The reporter says, trust them blindly? He says yes. Trust them blindly! They have a policy of global biological control they understood that this works and that by creating artificial crises which are biological in nature they can rule the world there's nothing they do for free even when they provide supplies to certain states free-of-charge they're not as free of charge as they say so this guy was a problem He was yeah, and so yeah all those oh. Yeah Ukraine did this sure Sure Ukraine killed him I don't believe it for a second This is no neither very unhandy to have this happening this guy out there running around shooting his mouth off Yeah, this is some high-end prose that killed this guy. Oh. Yeah, that was well done Well done

2:36:21 And he was shooting his mouth off about the biological labs all around Ukraine, which was in the conversation when the war first broke out. Disappeared from the discussion especially in the mainstream media nobody wants to talk about it or say anything about it and this guy keep bringing it up and other things issues that I didn't hear about the mosquitoes but that sounds like something we dream of some crackpot idea. Sounds like it! I have a little bit of climate change stuff if you want to switch. I actually have two clips too! Well, why don't you give us some climate change clips? A minor reminder so that it would be probably best to start with these this is about the key deer which are little bitty deer it's like a white-tailed deer that's about one third the size of a normal deer mm-hmm and what I had by the way plague at dear in my yard hell no

2:37:17 They got the biggest ears these particular brands. Oh, they're easy to shoot at The old trick is you put a salt lick down somewhere and then you just trap them kill him shoot him easy okay And it's all because of climate change and there are a couple of statements in here that are just worth it. There is a type of white-tailed deer that unique to the Florida Keys It has been on the endangered species list for nearly 60 years, and only about 800 of them remain. And its habitat is under growing threat from rising sea levels William Brangham has the latest in our series Saving Species

2:37:58 These tiny deer roam freely across front yards and graze on the side of the road on some of the many islands of the lower Florida Keys. They are very gentle, very very gentle. And the longer you live here the more you want to protect them The key deer is the smallest subspecies of the North American white-tailed deer they're about the size of a golden retriever They only come to about 24 to 30 inches at shoulder height so they are substantially smaller and their only found her in the Florida Keys The first written record of the key deer came from a 16th century Spanish shipwreck survivor

2:38:35 They currently live on only about two dozen of the Keys' 1,700 islands. Swimming or wading between them and living in the mangroves pine rocklands and freshwater wetlands Climate change is the thing that's going to get them. But it's those very habitats that are under threat from rising sea levels. Chris Berg is with The Nature Conservancy This is a success story until now, these animals have been doing very well they've been coming back population has not only stable but growing uh... but it's only a matter of time as the sea continues to rise that their habitat availability is is there thing that undoes the the key deer. Oh boy, climate climate climate so in this second clip they're going to talk about rising sea levels but the national ocean wait wait

2:39:25 So I just thought I'd interrupt it as we speak and ask you what is the, what do you think the sea level rise are going to say? What do you think it's gonna be? It's gonna be 17 centimeters like 12 centimeters of foot. What do you think? It won't take much to kill these poor deer Well, let's play the clip and you'll find out. But the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration estimates that in 75 years time sea levels around parts of the Keys could rise anywhere from one-and-a-half to seven feet. Seven feet? Sure! Come on...seven feet?! Oh man well

2:40:10 The reality of climate change is here and boy do we notice that in Italy. Up in the mountain, they had completely redone during COVID, redid the entire little mini resort there They had not had snow there for five years! Five years no snow due to climate change And this year, there's snow due to climate change. Between January and November, the average U.S temperature was 57 degrees Fahrenheit roughly three degrees above average and the warmest ever for that period. During that same time precipitation levels totaled more than 29 inches which is roughly one-and-a-half inches more than average CBS News National environmental correspondent David Schechter joins us now. David 2023 was the hottest on record how did 2024 fare?

2:41:14 I feel like you're always bringing me in for the good news here. 2024 is set to be even hotter than 2023, this year will mark for the first time ever that our average temperature on the planet will be warmer than 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial numbers. 1.5 is this key number they came out of the Paris climate accord in 2015 and that was where we were supposed stay below 1.5 degrees Celsius the issue here is that it's a combination of average of years so we haven't violated that climate accord yet but were certainly not heading in the right direction at all That was new to me It's not one point five per year, its an average How many years? Average of what

2:41:57 No, it's just that you know the change they're doing is called moving the goalpost. Change the way their calculations are done this is what we do with our economic data Oh speaking of such We saw devastating heat waves hurricanes made worse by climate change How many major events impacted the US and how is a warming planet contributing? Well, we talk about billion-dollar weather disasters. That's sort of the number that is a threshold for a huge disaster Wait a minute... Billion dollar disasters? So that's just some made up number which by the way a billion dollars was a million dollars 50 years ago

2:42:37 So this, who is a moving target? They're just making up and making it up as you go along. A major disaster is $1 billion. The U.S experienced 24 of those weather disasters through climate disasters from January to November 2024 of this year and that's only second to the number 28 that was last year These $24 billion emergencies resulted in estimated 418 deaths 61 billion dollars in damage and to your point these storms are not caused these emergencies not caused by climate change but climate change is juicing the conditions and rolling it you know sort of loading the dice to make it potentially worse. It's such a scam! Juicing and loading the dice? Yeah all right I just wanted we got it,

2:43:26 Get out of here. We have some people to thank, but I do have a real news story here Let me see this was an amazing real new story that I just...I loved it so much let me see And now, back to Real News. Tonight a 29-year old pleading not guilty to attempted murder and a few other charges after being accused of stabbing at DJ at a vegan strip club on Saturday Come on! Come on! A vegan strip club? Is Raven working there? A vegan strip club... Raven! Here she comes Oh she's lost a lot of weight

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2:44:48 Yeah, well we start with the Indymedia from Greenwood Indiana. It's one of those notes you're gonna have to read it's $195 which is five dollars beneath the Associate executive but this involves a knighting and damning Yes sir PBR street gang gifted his winning meeting raffle ticket to Nadir who added Dollars to it then switcherooed it to achieve this mom's damehood whose note follows In the morning, Adam and John I appreciate all you do and am excited to finally be Dame of the Best Podcast in the Universe. My name will be Dame Steph of The Dark Side for The Roundtable! I'd like Twizzlers, potato chips, and chips and guacamole? I'd like to thank my son Nadir for being so generous for helping me get here We are both devoted No Agenda fans Have a happy 2025 And may your year be full of laughter happiness and many many cats

2:45:41 And then it says, Jingle you fools you stupid fools. I don't we don't have a you fools You stupid fools jingle that I can recall and never heard of one well We can do a service goat though that we can do with the car man. He's got Karma So this is a note, this from Martin McIntyre. I'll have to read this too. In Mont Laurel New Jersey and he says 138 42 rest in peace Big Mac and Merry Christmas to all note I paid the fee but the donation amount is 130 142 my dad's birthday he passed away on the 7th of December And so I decided to read it. Lydia Terry in Rochester, New Hampshire 125 Nathan Cochran and Franklin, Tennessee. That's one of your Mercy Me boys right there! There you go 1 2 3 4 5

2:46:35 We get mercy me is it's interesting that we have these bands that listen to us William Cotter and st. Paul, Minnesota 120 Dan Kesterton in Colorado Springs one one one three threes got a birthday call effort I guess himself. He's a de-douching. Okay, hold on... You've been de-douched! David Wicker in Jacksonville Florida 111. It's Wicker you always do that wrong. David Wicker sir by his grace How did you know this?

2:47:11 111.22 you keep doing that one wrong well, it's because Wiker is a I think it was the senator and as you always pronounced wicker and spelled exactly the same and when I see It this what I think of I'll keep I'll keep correcting jumping on me yes William Elliot in Aiea Hawaii Hawaii 105 35 Keeps the newsletters coming he writes Mary Ann Schmid in, I don't know, Valet... what is this? Hold on. She's in New York. Uh-huh. No she said no she's in Iceland! She doesn't know where she is. Oh. Experience around the... oh yeah she had a bunch of

2:48:04 Problems with drones. Oh, I op is advanced Yes Rob because they shut down an airport or something she got stuck Yes Robin Tolbert in Topeka Kansas a hundred Ian Field 100 Henry Davis and st Petersburg 100 dude named Ben in Czechoslovakia or CZ Czech Republic? I think it's Czech Republic And he needs a de-douching for his friend Libor. You've been de-douched! Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas 68888 Allison O. Round Rock Texas and this is 88 but it's another one is the switcheroo for

2:48:45 Tonight my dad Rick. Oh, you might as well read this note because it's a nighting in the morning John Adam like a good human resource I've hit my dad Rick Oh several times in the mouth over the years and finally left the mark now He listens often and we will discuss topics from the show when we talk I was working My way to knighthood and this donation was to get me there But I cannot in good faith accept This is a switcheroo to Mike to give my dad his knighthood for Christmas Merry Christmas, Dad. I know I speak for all three kids when I say how blessed and grateful we are to have you as a dad not only did you teach us all to always work hard and give it all we had but it means...

2:49:22 and to give it our all but... Oh, to give it our all but... But also means to give back to the community. Help others and be there for your family as you and mom continue to help us and offer advice We love you! So please de-doosh the man already Adam You've been de-dooshed And give the man a Jack & Coke for the round table and call him Knight of the Coonsaw River Unless he writes in for name change Merry Christmas Happy Holidays everybody in Gitmo Nation Sincerely Allison Sir Tony of Dimples and the Grandkids. Very nice! Kevin McLaughlin comes up at 8008, he's our Archduke of Luna and a lover American boobs 8008 that's for show 1722 and here is again 8008 for show 1723

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2:51:09 Gordon Walton in Austin, Texas 6850 sir. Gordon for sure Dame Rita Sparks Nevada 6733 Merry Christmas whoops there she is again in the next show no yeah, Dame Rita sparks, Nevada 66 33 nice and good dollar difference Scott Schreiber in Madrid Maryland 6035 Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, 6006. Kyle Tuhig, T-O-H-I-G. Liberty Lake Washington this is actually a switcheroo for Dame Jen with G protector of women's vaginas, 6006 also small boobs. Les Starkowski in Kingman Arizona 6006 Paul Webb and Twickenham

2:52:00 UK 5555 Merry Christmas. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey 5510 Dean Roker 5510 Tony Helfs in Fort Worth Port Worth and this is TU I don't know that came as a check so it's Texas that switcheroo to my son Brian helps 5510 Adam first in Alexandria New South Wales 5272 Jeroen Vanheringen. I can't do it. Foothill Ranch, California 5272 Your show is valuable!

2:52:49 Robert Newell, 52.50. Baron Henry Pancho, Rancho Palos Verdes, 52.42. No Agenda Merch New Hampshire, there you go! No Agenda Merch 51 all proceeds donated to the No Agenda Show use ITM for free shipping noagendamerch.com They have stickers Stickers. Yes, Forrest Martin 5005 Andrew Benz in Imperial Missouri 5005 now the rest of these people are $50 donors I'm just gonna run through them name and location starting with

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2:54:05 Parts unknown as all $50 donors want to thank all these people and everybody else on this list for making them show 1723 a reality that it is yes, and also of course once again to our executive and associate executive producers We appreciate you all and everybody who came in under fifty dollars with one of those sustaining donations. No agenda donations calm Here's the jingle for those who need the karma. You've got karma no agenda donations What are you waiting for? And we do have some birthdays. Jason Babcock turned 54 on the 17th, Sir Jub-Jub celebrated on the 20th Dan Kesterson he celebrated his birthday yesterday Amanda West says happy birthday to Adam He celebrates today Happy Birthday Nicole Weerman turning 54 tomorrow Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility Happy Birthday to...his keeper

2:55:00 on December 24th. Sir Brian turned 66 on Christmas Day and Melissa Benavides wishes Danny Benavides a very happy 43rd birthday he'll be celebrating on January 1st we say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the best podcast in the universe! We do have two title changes. Sir Don becomes Sir Don, Baron of Chandler and Sir Rick who was an Earl now becomes Sir Rick Duke of Washington minus Seattle and the rest of those crazies in King County congratulations and thank you to your exceptional additional support of The Noah Jenner Show when you move up that peerage ladder

2:55:48 Before we get to our dames and knights, a layaway Dame note here from Nicole Weirman who we just heard had a birthday call out there. She's celebrating tomorrow. Dear John Adam thank you for your hard work every week even on holidays as a former hospital nurse I know what that's like That's right! We are...We are just like nurses and we are nursing your amygdala I've been a sustaining producer since changing my contribution from public radio to your show at John's urging. There it is, it works! I could go on and on like telling you about my recent persimmon recipe adventures but I'll keep it brief instead today I'm claiming my damehood to celebrate my 54th birthday on Monday I would like to be known as Dame Nikki Ray of Prosperity Park and can I get an order of batter fried Wisconsin cheese curds

2:56:39 at the round table. Wow! That is, that's quite the order there I've not heard of that. Yeah. That's a new one for the round table. Get a lot out of them And go pack Go as they play on my birthday Monday night thank you very much well you bet and she's in Toolatan? She's in Oregon. She's in Oregon where she is Well why don't you get ready to hop up on the round table here As we get a blade for our dames and knights It has been a hot minute since we have had some knightings and damings John Yeah, I got it right here. There it is! On the podium please, Nicole Wehrman, Steph, Singhee Detlefsen and Rick O all of you have reached in no agenda night or Dame status a thousand dollars or more to the best podcast in the universe and very proud to pronounce Kate V as Dame Nikki Ray of Prosperity Park, Dame Steph of The Dark Slide Sir Singhee protect

2:57:34 of the Moonies and Knight of the Coonsaw River. For you we've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Coffee Ice Cream, Twizzlers Potato Chips, Chips and Guacamole Jack & Coke, Batter Fried Wisconsin Cheese Curds And of course we've got Vodka Vanilla Bong It's a Bourbon Sparkling Cider Escorts Ginger Ale and Gerbil Breast Milk and Pablamen as always The Mutton and The Me Congratulations everybody It's good to have you here on the podium. Go to noagenderrings.com, take a look at those handsome rings there, Cignet rings that means that you can hit someone in the mouth with it and it will leave a mark or just use the wax we will include with your shipment and you can use that for your portant correspondence put your seal of approval along as always with a certificate of authenticity Welcome to The Roundtable our brand new Knights & Dames

2:58:22 Noah Jenner Meetups! It's a, uh... I've got a short list. Very short list today but we do have two meetup reports to make up for the time here is the Indie December meet-up report Hello this is Dame Maria and this is Sir Mark certainly glad to have all of the Noah Jenner family here at our house and wishing Merry Christmas to all and happy new year. In the morning, John Adams for PBR Street Gang enjoying mutton and mead at Mark & Maria's this holiday season. Team Trinity saying Merry Christmas to the Norwich Indian Nation! Hey guys it's Diane in Annapolis another fabulous evening with Mark and Maria gosh I wish you guys were here Sir Benny here and it's like a party

2:59:08 Dame Swanny, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Nauta from Indianapolis after two years and much money later Mom you are now a dame Hey this is Emily the Shufflecrat Spook I'm on the spot and im missing Annette because she came yesterday on the wrong day Sir Berski here just enjoying the camaraderie with everyone here in Indy And Merry Christmas to all Gary here interesting Sir Rip of Maple leaves the country and Syria goes to hell what a coincidence Sir Edward of Tatton Hall, Baron of Flyover Country wishing Adam and John and the entire Global No Agenda family a very Merry Christmas. This is Nick from Indy I brought some bits of ball in, I brought some hockle slack And i'm ready to eat Maria's dogs Oh no! Let's go We wish you a merry Christmas we wish you a merry Christmas we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy

3:00:05 They never disappoint those in the music clip that little part at the end there for end of show guys I wish I could do it right now, but I can do it on the next show for end-of-show Hey West Palm Beach threw axes and drank tequila In the morning, John and Adam. This is Brian from the West Palm Beach axe throwing meetup where surprisingly everyone has their fingers and toes forbidden And in fact I was flashed by the Axe Master. In the morning i'm an unexpected and unrealized Axe Master thrower. Grumpy green guy in the morning This is 4H mama they don't allow me around sharp objects. What do you call when a group of knife-throwing no agenda producers have a successful meet up?

3:00:46 in accident. Hey, this is Ronnie in the morning! It's Leslie in the morning we drank and we threw things This is the Reiki princess so excited and grateful for another amazing Florida meetup We threw axes and knives And even some shovels because one of our knights flirted with our smoking hot 25 year old axe master or axe mistress who ended up flashing him and giving us all The special treatment. We also had some mead you never know what will happen at these meetups it's like a party Happy holidays everyone! Thank You Lord All right, West Palm Beach. Thank you very much good good editing good reports there always appreciate it There is a meetup Taking place today it is in Los Banos California So it is just getting underway soon will be at 3 30 p.m.. In

3:01:32 That is the Resist We Much meetup, me and Ed's pizza in Los Baños California. So make sure you catch that! We do have meetups throughout the rest of the year Bedford Texas on 28th Fort Wayne Indiana Eagan Minnesota on 30th and then after New Year we have Raleigh North Carolina Colorado Springs Ronit Park, California. Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It keeps on going to go to knowagentomeetups.com do yourself a huge favor find yourself one of these meet ups you need the buzz that you get from being with real people You know that little hit you get? That little just ah yes

3:02:08 I like being with human beings, not something on social media. Go to noagendameetups.com find a meetup near you if you can't find one near you then just start one yourself it's easy! Noagendameetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days be where you won't be triggered or held lame Now, you're not gonna tell me you don't have a single ISO are ya?

3:02:48 I'm gonna tell you that i don't have a single ISO. How can you not have an ISO knowing that I will not have time traveling to get isos? But then, I want you to use one of the ones from the last show which produced three good ones and they were all usable and he didn't use them Let me see... hold on a second.. I am hearing Tina's she's playing Reels on Instagram let me see I have yeah, no. No yeah that one is that one of the ones we use really good one yes What was this fighting that thing is on the fritz didn't? We use it we didn't use that one That wasn't like you know you know ya ya know you know you know Yeah, well use ya know you know you know yeah, that's all good because it is time now for John's tip of the day

3:03:39 Create advice for you and me, just a tip with JC Dean. And sometimes Adam. A scandal, he says. I was frequently on long-hold lines waiting to borrow a copy of audiobooks which had been checked out. Popular titles, especially classical literature may only have one or two copies available. Alternatively autobiographies and other books by leading political figures often have 200 or more copies on the quote unquote shelf

3:04:42 with very few ever checked out. Is it possible that our public libraries are subsidizing select people by funneling public funds Through the overpurchasing of excess digital copies of audiobooks nobody wants to read. My local library branch had over 100 digital copies of Stacey Abrams books, 500 copies of Michelle Obama's book for example only two or three ever checked out. Breach! This is a scam

3:05:19 Tell me about it a scandalous scam no less. So this is how that was quite interesting I think that's super interesting Yeah, cuz these guys get these huge advances and so there somebody's in on this This is like a wink-wink nudge. Okay, you can buy 500 copies of Michelle's book Mm-hmm. Well are not gonna sell or even check out that many just use the just just do it We'll make sure you get the government funding Wow. This is a guy. There's a scam. Yeah, this is an outrageous scam All right, tip of the day. This is a spice that people should all get a hold of I noticed these spices are batty as spiced ones before but this is even more generalized product that you can use on everything and now I've always been a big fan of spice blenders because they'll blend up stuff they tell ya these cooking shows will show how to do it yourself 90% of time their not tested enough and there never perfect

3:06:19 I was noticing this recently on a show where they were showing the America's Test Kitchen, and they were making up spices that you could beat easily with Tony C. Which is kind of a tip. Adobo from Goya! And get the big giant thing of it. Adobo seasoning, adobo seasonings are Mexican seasoning that Goya, a big Trump supporter by the way, Goya makes and the one you want is either the plain one with nothing added to it or the one con peppers got pepper in it

3:06:56 Those are the two. If you go to the Goya website, the Adobo page will show you all kinds of screwy ones I have never seen. I shop in giant Mexican, which is another thing I recommend shopping in giant Mexican Mercados these are massive supermarkets that they're in all around the country we have four or five in the Bay Area and they have all these spices, and they have the Goya adobo but they don't have all these screwball ones that they have on their website. Don't get any of those! Get the plain adobo and you put it on steaks, you can put it on chicken, you can put in your salad, you can put it anywhere this stuff is amazing and here's the kicker

3:07:36 Unlike a lot of these spice blends, there's absolutely not a trace of anything that relates to wheat. Thus Mimi and other people that have actual wheat allergies can use this spice and you can use as much as you want I think that is it not just a great tip It is a great tip for people with wheat issues Exactly Are you looking for good advice? Perhaps something practical or something you really need Try the new Agenda Tip of the Day. Professional quality tips from the best podcast in

3:08:30 And, uh... let me see. We've got end of show mixes coming up here from Jeff Crocker who's been doing a bang-up job and Sir Joho who I'm not sure if he sang this or if he got this one from some, uh... Some Suno AI outfit but it's pretty good! I must say I like the lyrics and its fun to listen too It's a toe tapper And coming up next on the No Agenda stream, TrollRoom.io and of course your modern podcast apps We've got Grumpy Ol' Benz with a Christmas miracle. Oh, who doesn't love it? Coming to you from Florence in Italy and of course I will be here... No, I'll be in Amsterdam for the next show before we head home In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where's drying out I'm John C. Dvorak Remember us at noagendadonations.com We'll see you on Thursday Until then Adios mofos Ahooy Hooy and such

3:09:35 Upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated in Los Angeles. This is over my house right now! And important, there are no recorded or confirmed drone sightings in any restricted airspace. I'm getting multiple calls from the drones and have about five to ten of them in my head. That's it! We certainly take seriously the threat that can be posed by unmanned aircraft systems

3:10:21 And still no one knows who launched it. The reported sightings there do however highlight a gap in authority and so we urge Congress to pass important legislation that will extend and expand existing counter-drone abilities, so that we are better prepared to identify and mitigate any potential threats to airports or other critical infrastructure In Silicon Valley where the tech bros play John's decking the halls in a digital way Mimi's got the lights, they're blinking and sync With algorithms buzzing no time to blink

3:11:20 Down in Texas it's a whole different scene Tina's roasting brisket where the air is clean Adam's got the tune spinning vinyl so loud Fredericksburg's rocking to drawing a crowd It's a no agenda Christmas crank it up tonight From Region 9 to Region 6 we're feeling alright The Podfather and The Buzzkiller bringing the cheer With a rockin' No Agenda to close out the year! John's got his wine, a vintage so fine Riffing on the news conspiracies aligned Adams in the groove with a jingle or two Calling out the grifters yeah you know who The jingles are blaring the trolls hit the floor Gitmo nations rocking like never before We toast to producers, the knights and the dames No agendas, no podcasts breaking all the chains

3:12:16 We're the Rockin' No Agenda to close out the year! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Yeah no, no yeah