Topic: Bio Labs

Prior to his death, General Kirillov frequently appeared on Russian television claiming the US operated biological labs in Ukraine. He alleged that the US creates "artificial biological crises" to profit Big Pharma and exert global control. Kirillov claimed to have sent 2,000 pages of evidence to the United Nations regarding these activities.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claims the Pentagon is concerned about losing control over biological war labs in Kiev and Odessa. Lavrov asserts that the U.S. has been developing pathogens near the Russian border. The hosts reference previous testimony from Victoria Nuland as partial confirmation that biological research facilities exist in Ukraine.

The discussion analyzes the Senate testimony of Victoria Nuland, who admitted to the existence of "biological research facilities" in Ukraine under questioning by Marco Rubio. The hosts argue the exchange was rehearsed to manage the narrative as more information about U.S. involvement in these labs becomes public.

The U.S. State Department and Secretary of State Antony Blinken issue warnings that Vladimir Putin may be preparing to use chemical weapons in Ukraine. The hosts observe a rhetorical shift in media coverage where previous discussions regarding biological laboratories are being replaced by warnings of imminent chemical warfare.