Episode 1534 · Thursday, 2 March 2023

The Chit

Geopolitical tensions escalate as Beijing targets Elon Musk, the FBI backs the lab leak theory, and leaked WhatsApp messages rock the British government.

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The Chinese Communist Party issued a direct warning to Elon Musk via the Global Times after the Tesla CEO amplified reports regarding the COVID-19 lab leak theory. This geopolitical friction coincides with a new House Select Committee on China, led by Mike Gallagher, which is currently investigating the national security implications of the recent surveillance balloon incident and the data collection practices of TikTok. As the Biden administration orders federal agencies to purge the social media app within thirty days, lawmakers are advancing the DATA Act to grant the executive branch broader powers to ban foreign-owned software entirely.

In the United Kingdom, the Telegraph released The Lockdown Files, a massive leak of 100,000 WhatsApp messages from former Health Secretary Matt Hancock that suggest officials ignored clinical advice on care home testing. Meanwhile, the Department of Energy and FBI Director Christopher Wray have shifted the American intelligence consensus by backing the Wuhan lab leak assessment with varying levels of confidence. On the front lines in Ukraine, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen arrived in Kiev to pledge $1.2 billion in direct budget support while Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accused the Pentagon of maintaining biological research facilities near the Russian border. Domestic investigations into Havana Syndrome have also reached a stalemate, with five U.S. agencies now claiming it is very unlikely a foreign adversary is responsible for the mysterious cognitive impairments reported by diplomats.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of Vice President Kamala Harris directing citizens to the non-existent internet.gov for connectivity subsidies. The duo also analyzes the sudden cancellation of Dilbert creator Scott Adams and the technical challenges of maintaining the No Agenda Social community on Mastodon. Between reports of mysterious drone strikes near Moscow and the trend of Ukrainian soldiers freezing their sperm, the hosts find time to critique the high-speed podcast listening habit and the questionable authenticity of Shake Shack’s new white truffle menu.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Texas Hailstorm, Star Trek Fan Feedback

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session by addressing listener corrections regarding Star Trek, Star Wars, and the film Total Recall. Curry describes a severe microburst hailstorm in Fredericksburg, Texas, that produced quarter-sized hail and woke his household at 5:00 AM. The dog's unusual reaction to the storm and the potential for vehicle damage from Texas hail are noted.

texas· fredericksburg· hailstorm· star trek· total recall· fan feedback

00:00 You guys are working for us. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 2nd, 2023. This is your award-winning Kip on Asian Media assassination episode 1534. This is no agenda. Pickling your amygdala and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning. Everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I await the next episode of Picard. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! The most emailed comment on the last show was, without a doubt, You got it all wrong!

00:44 About Star Trek Star Wars and Total Recall the woman with three boobs. It's amazing How much attention our producers pay to that kind of stuff? I'm glad they do. No, they get nothing else to do clearly Why do anything else? It's that's what you you got to set curry straight on the three boob lady. That's important people Thank you for all your your information We had a massive hailstorm at five this morning with quarter-sized hail. Quarter-sized? Quarter-sized like this, like a... Like a US quarter. Like the size of a small bouncing ball? Yes, yes. And we have a metal roof, so that woke us up. Oh, that would have... Let me guess, you got awoke. We got very awoke. The dog was even freaked out. The dog slept next to my bed, which she never does.

01:34 my side never she never sleeps in it never even comes into our bedroom she's like boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo There were still clusters of much smaller now like marble size of hail. It was just one of those micro bursts right over Fredericksburg. Yeah, Texas hail. It could be damaging to cars. Very damaging. Very damaging.

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

China Pivot, Elon Musk Global Times Warning

The discussion shifts to a perceived geopolitical pivot toward China, citing news coverage of spy balloons, TikTok, and fentanyl. CNBC reports that the Chinese Communist Party's Global Times warned Elon Musk against "breaking the pot of China" after he retweeted COVID-19 lab leak theories. President Xi Jinping is reportedly leading a drive to attract foreign capital despite shaky international business sentiment following zero-COVID protocols.

china· elon musk· global times· xi jinping· cnbc· investment

02:14 I wanted to mention for those of you who found us during COVID and are happy that we helped you stay sane, stay with us. There's a lot of stuff that you're being psychologically manipulated over. And I think that we can keep you on the true and narrow. Is that it? The true and narrow? What is it now? What is it? The path of the... Straight and narrow. Yeah, straight and narrow. There you go. Because what I've seen every other podcast do this week We were right! We told you it was from the lab! We were right! We were right! And no one is seeing the bigger picture. Everyone's just... Well, besides, you mean the bigger picture that we said it was from the lab in 2020? No, the bigger picture being this... Well, I mean, yeah, we could play clip after clip after clip and show that we were right within two weeks, but that's not the point. The point is, this is a pivot to China

03:10 And if you just look at what we have, we've got spy balloons, COVID lab, TikTok, teaming up with Russia, fentanyl. It's all about China. This is the pivot. And no one is spared in this. CNBC laid it all out. Oh, well, the reminder today was directed towards Elon Musk. The Tesla founder had been retweeting posts promoting the theory that coronavirus originated from a Wuhan lab. Well, the issue is very sensitive here in China. And so the Communist Party paper, the Global Times, warned on its social media site that he could be breaking the pot

03:50 of China. This is a Chinese saying that's similar to biting the hand that feeds you. Breaking the pot. Breaking the pot is a Chinese proverb similar to Biting the hand that feeds you the pot of China. No, wait, I'm gonna go back a little bit breaking breaking the pot This is ready paper. The Global Times warned on its social media site that he could be breaking the pot of China This is a Chinese saying that's similar to a biting the hand that feeds you now this warning comes as Chinese officials both on a high level as well as on a

04:32 on a lower level of the government are really pulling out all the stops to try to attract U.S. investment into China. The directive has come all the way from the top, from President Xi Jinping, who's been saying that there should be greater effort to attract more and welcome more foreign capital as well as foreign investment. On a local level, officials have been eagerly trying to reach out to international companies, touting how they're relaunching several events around the region and dispatching delegations, prioritizing trade shows in the U.S. and Europe. Cities also, including Shanghai, have announced that they're going to be having a foreign talent

05:10 recruitment drives. They do though have a lot of work to do. The international business sentiment has been quite shaky in the past year because of the zero COVID protocols, the sour US, sorry, the slowing Chinese economy, as well as the political climate, American executives In particular, Joe, are really nervous ahead of that select committee hearing. This is a new committee that's focused on China and nobody here wants to be called in. No, nobody wants to be seen as a traitor.

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory, Mike Pompeo Intelligence

The narrative surrounding the origins of COVID-19 is revisited following new reports from the Department of Energy. Historical clips of Mike Pompeo and Donald Trump from 2020 are played to show that the lab leak theory was discussed early in the pandemic. The hosts suggest the theory is being resurrected now to facilitate a broader political confrontation with China.

covid-19· wuhan lab· mike pompeo· donald trump· intelligence· lab leak

05:46 collaborating with China. Russia's over man. Russia's out. Russia's yesterday's news. We'll see but my concern with this latest thing about the Wuhan lab is that Mike Pompeo said it came from the Wuhan lab during the Trump administration. I happen to have the clip. Secretary Pompeo said that he has strong evidence that it did come from the virology lab. We've been reporting this every Sunday, by the way, from early on. You also said that you saw evidence. Can you tell us anything about the intelligence? No, but we have a lot of information and it's not good. But you know, the worst of all, whether it came from the lab or came from the bats, it all came from China and they should have stopped it. They could have stopped it at that source. I call it the source.

06:36 Right there. They made a decision to allow it to escape its borders. I don't know if they made the decision, but it got out of control. I think more likely it got out of control. Senator Kahn said that they didn't want the... This is an interesting clip and so why I chose this one because Trump is almost kind of pushing back against Pompeo, ex-CIA at this point, and saying, well, you know, whatever it came from, China let it happen. Trump isn't even pushing it on China as like an intentional bio leak or anything, which was really much more his position.

07:13 although manipulated by the media. Chinese economy to contract 20% and the rest of the world to contract 2%. So we were beating them very badly before this. We were beating them between the tariffs and other things we were doing. And we were going up and they were having a very bad year. They were having the worst year they've had in 56 years. This is before. He had Hong Kong protesters on the street. And they weren't well and even beyond that. And we were really doing well. And that is a theory, but here's what I know for sure. They didn't allow this whole thing. They didn't allow people to go into China, but they did allow them to go out to the world, including the United States. That's why Europe is a mess. That's why look at look at these countries. Russia is having a hard time.

07:59 So quite a different story back then. But why is your concern? Well, the funny thing, again, let's go back to this. That was like the news cycle back in the day, over two years ago. And this was, and then it was, I don't know, I thought it was concluded that it was from the lab. And then the next thing you know, this comes out just recently. And so it's all news. And then you have, like you said, your podcast is going on, we told you so. What are you talking about? This is old. Yeah, it's just being... in my mind, it's just being resurrected at this moment. But why? Why resurrect? Oh, you're saying so that they can target China. China, China, China. Yeah, it's all about China. Now we've got to blame China. Blame China for that little water under the bridge, it seems to me. No, no, it's just, it's adding, adding to the... everything... Okay.

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

House Select Committee on China, TikTok Security Risks

A new House committee chaired by Mike Gallagher is focusing on threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party, including the surveillance balloon incident. Lawmakers, including Senator Marco Rubio, argue that TikTok poses a national security risk due to data collection and potential influence operations. The committee is seeking a bipartisan ban on the app, citing its ties to the CCP and its impact on American democracy.

tiktok· mike gallagher· marco rubio· ccp· icbm· house select committee

08:52 Are you going to tell me that you don't see the pivot to China? Everything is moving for China. Oh, China's doing this, China's doing that. We have a new house panel. Oh, it's all about China. China's no good. There's something going on with China. This is the pivot. 60% of the news is about China. China China China percent of the news is not about China. That's what I'm seeing Most definitely half the news is about Murdoch. No What are you watching you know, you put that in the newsletter if you go to googlenews.com You did their top headline is about this trial in South Carolina that nobody cares about but they're playing up every which way well Surely you understand why?

09:42 Yeah, it's a distraction, but that's common. No, it's a true crime drama. It has been... Nancy Grace has been pushing this and the Netflix special is coming out. I thought the next... I thought the Netflix special was out. Well, they're promoting it heavily now, whether it was out or not. It's all for ratings. This has nothing to do with... And people love this. That's why the news mostly concentrates on getting people to watch TV. Yeah, and I'm not saying this pit I I mean there's talk they're targeting China for sure But I don't see a quote-unquote pivot. No I do and it's in it and here it is. It's about this this panel This house panel and the main thing the pivot if this is what is occupying people's minds is tick-tock. Oh

10:32 That is, that is a continuous hammering of China bad. Congress enjoys a rare bipartisan moment today when lawmakers come together to address China. Coming together? Oh no! NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh reports. Wisconsin Republican Mike Gallagher chairs a new House committee created to put a spotlight on the threats posed by China. He says a recent news story made that job a little easier. A Chinese spy balloon drifting over the country and circling our nuclear ICBM facilities has a way of... This is a lie? This thing wasn't circling anything. Remember, it was just floating around. Since when was it circling around ICBM facilities? That's just a lie.

11:16 It's like it passed over them before. Now it was circling. Oh yeah, it stopped in a circle. Over the country, circling our nuclear ICBM facilities has a way of bringing the threat close to home. Illinois Congressman Rajna Krishnamoorthi, the top Democrat on the panel, says his constituents already feel the impact of China's influence. Everyone seems to have their own stories, whether they are a small business person or whether they're concerned about the crackdown on dissent. or human rights. Both lawmakers want to lay out the economic and national security threats posed by China for the American people. One area they agree on is banning the social media platform TikTok from operating in the U.S. They're concerned the app is taking users' data and its parent company has ties to the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party.

12:07 Gallagher worries about what that means for Americans. It can be used to influence the news, what people see and talk about, and therefore to interfere in our society, in our politics, and our very democracy. The looming threat from China on America's economy spurred Congress to act last year. passing a bill investing more than $50 billion for U.S. manufacturers to boost semiconductor production. Lawmakers say the use of a surveillance balloon by China only reinforces the need for a comprehensive security plan. The rest of the century will be defined by what happens between the United States and China. That's Florida Senator Marco Rubio, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee. This is not just a military challenge. China has fused its commercial, military, technological applications

12:54 in ways no other nation ever has. So it's a multifaceted challenge. Part of that challenge is also increased China aggression over Taiwan, an island democracy that governs itself, but that China claims as its territory. We don't want open hostilities to break out in that part of the world, which could lead to very severe consequences for the region. So we can bicker over whether it's a pivot or not, but Hold on. Sure. So first of all, I have my phone ringing, but first of all, you're constantly condemning me for the NTD announcers? This was NPR. This was NPR. Oh my god. That was NPR. What, did they hire them from NTD? Most likely. In fact, NTD is on the line for you right now. Pick it up. They want to know why you're not playing any more clips. They're totally pissed off about that. I only play NTD clips every third show.

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Department of Energy Report, FBI Lab Leak Assessment

Catherine Herridge reports on a classified Department of Energy assessment that points to a possible lab leak in Wuhan with "low confidence." FBI Director Christopher Wray has also supported the lab leak theory, while other intelligence agencies remain undecided or favor natural transmission. The hosts discuss the discrepancy between the FBI and CIA assessments and question the validity of the "million American deaths" statistic.

department of energy· fbi· catherine herridge· wuhan· christopher wray· cia

13:48 Do you not have voicemail on that thing? Come on, what's going on? If it rings one more time, yeah, I'm starting another clip. I'm starting another great clip. CBS News has new information on that classified Department of Energy report that details the origin of the COVID-19 virus. The new intelligence points to a possible lab leak in Wuhan China. CBS's Catherine Herridge has more. They always bring in the cameras when in some bring in the spook girl the spook girl knows it all. Mind you this is not this this report came from the FBI not from the CIA who do overseas not from our National Institute of Health. No it came from the intelligence community So they're now the experts all of a sudden in this type of stuff. I mean it was always to have over 20 years Thank you. Well wait, okay. No no keep playing. I'm sorry. I'll listen to this right. I have some comment about this

14:42 When inside the Wuhan labs as the pandemic unfolded three years ago. Now two sources close to the US government probe into the origins of COVID-19 tell CBS News there is new intelligence that points to an accidental lab leak. The sources say the Energy Department has low confidence in the new reporting, though it's not clear whether that reflects weak data or limited intelligence. We really do want to know what happened here. The White House would not endorse the new finding. The intelligence community and the rest of the government is still looking at this. There's not been a definitive conclusion. Intelligence agencies have not been able to agree on how the pandemic that killed more than a million Americans started. Several still- Another lie. There's no evidence that the pandemic itself, that the COVID itself

15:31 Killed a million Americans, but we'll just take that as fact now. But to agree on how the pandemic that killed more than a million Americans started Several still point to the possibility of natural transmission through animals The first major outbreak occurred at a Wuhan wildlife and seafood market get it For some reason CBS, the CIA broadcasting system is pushing back a little bit. Getting answers from the Chinese government or PRC has been impossible according to State Department spokesperson Ned Price. For more than two years now the PRC has been blocking from the beginning.

16:07 international investigators and members of the global health community from accessing information that they need to understand the origins of COVID-19. With more than 7 million deaths worldwide, the lack of transparency has frustrated health experts. Why does knowing still matter? Knowing the origins of COVID really matters because it will impact how we prepare for the future. If this was the result of a lab leak, it may result in tighter safety procedures in the lab or more regulations on what kind of research is allowed. Whereas if this is a natural occurrence, it does point to the need for better surveillance among animal populations, for example, to see what might be brewing as the next virus there. So notice, this is the CIA side of the house.

16:55 being very hesitant to agree and it makes me think that Christopher Wray is just taking advantage. He's probably in the Silicon Valley cabal. Hey man, we need to be tracking everybody a lot better. So either TikTok gives us their data, which is probably no different from Facebook or Instagram, but okay. Or, you know, we got to kick them out. He said low confidence. Their report is low confidence. Everyone's jumping around like he said, yeah, we got the smoking gun. This is very weird. I just find this whole thing to be so deja vu. It's just annoying. Yeah, I understand that. And meanwhile, of course, no one wants to talk about the CIA specifically wouldn't want to talk about Fort Detrick. No, we can't have that. You know, in my mind, this

17:51 You know, maybe this was just a flu and it's all a hoax. You know, remember flu went away during COVID, it was just gone. So maybe it was just a Wuhan flu, which is literally what Trump called it, the Wuhan flu. And okay, bad flu. But maybe it wasn't bioengineering at all. Yeah, I'm not buying that one. I think it was. It was a weaponized and it did kill people. It didn't kill a million Americans, but it was a killer and then they added on to the killer vaccine. The response was a killer. The response was to kill people. So you don't think there was a COVID? I didn't say that. I said it's possible. Well, where did flu go?

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

John Kirby on Gain-of-Function Research, Trump Xenophobia Claims

White House spokesperson John Kirby addresses whether the rewards of gain-of-function research outweigh the risks, stating that President Biden believes legitimate scientific research is necessary to prevent future pandemics. The discussion also covers media claims that Donald Trump's rhetoric regarding the "Wuhan flu" fueled xenophobia and prevented an honest early conversation about the virus's origins.

john kirby· gain-of-function· donald trump· xenophobia· pandemic· research

18:33 Of course, no I'm not saying that. I agree with you that the numbers were exaggerated. Coronavirus is a flu. I'm just saying. I'm not so sure. Coronavirus is a cold, it's not a flu. Okay, alright, fine, whatever. Well you know that. Meanwhile, you had Kirby on here. Now Kirby is gonna... I thought Kirby would have something on the ball. But I have a clip of Kirby Being asked the question about gain of function, is it okay to do this sort of research? And if you listen to this carefully, it's under COVID, if you listen to this carefully, I don't think he knows what gain of function is. And now I don't think that he knows what he's talking about about anything. Without weighing in one way or the other on origin of the virus, you've made clear that there's no consensus.

19:28 Does the president believe, though, that the reward outweighs the risk when it comes to gain-of-function research? Does the reward outweigh the risk when it comes to gain-of-function research? I got a history degree. You're going to have to say that again? Does the president believe that this type of gain-of-function research is prudent? He believes that it's important to help prevent future pandemics. which means he understands that there has to be legitimate scientific research into the sources or potential sources of pandemics so that we understand it, so that we can prevent them and we can prevent them from happening, obviously. But he also believes, and this is why he wants the

20:22 whole of government effort here to understand it that that research has to be done and must be done in a safe and secure manner as And as transparent as possible to the rest of the world so that so people know what's going on. I think that's a fancy way of saying yes, I Think he knows exactly what he's talking about. He's just couching it the way everyone else is like oh, yeah Well, it was from a lab. So, you know now we know we have to be careful when the next one comes and I think it's all gaslighting. Yeah, sure, it was engineered, okay, sure. We shouldn't even be arguing about it because that's what everyone is doing. Meanwhile, what's next? Oh, I think they'll say China is a currency manipulator. You watch, it's all, it's all, everything Trump was saying, they're now playing. That's deja vu too. Of course it is, of course it is. And by the way, the reason we didn't catch this the first time around, that this came from China,

21:17 you know, whether it was made or not, came from China was because Trump is a xenophobe. Trump unleashed this xenophobia. He stopped allowing Chinese people to come to the country. He then started calling it the... Don't even say it. Don't even say it. He called it something and he kept on saying China, China and doing this thing where I was even concerned as someone who had lost family members for Manny to even bring it up. And that is really sad. The last guy before Biden said anything about this, he made it about Asian people. And I'm sure Jon Stewart didn't realize that that's what was happening because I'm sure he didn't know what was going on all over the country with Asian folks getting smacked and hit and people saying stuff to them.

22:08 about bringing the disease here. I mean, this was what was happening. And if you know who had not started it with that, had he not made it about that, had he said, listen, this might have come out of a lab, it probably would have been listened to a lot differently. Well I'm glad she's got her act together. That's so beautiful. Yeah, if only he had said it differently we would have listened differently. Okay, okay whoopee. And of course it was the response that was the problem. It was the lockdowns that was the problem. It was all of this, the masks, that was the problem. We know that it simply was not the killer virus that it was promoted to be.

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

UK Lockdown Files, Matt Hancock WhatsApp Leak

The Telegraph has published "The Lockdown Files," consisting of 100,000 leaked WhatsApp messages from former UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock. The messages, leaked by journalist Isabel Oakeshott, suggest Hancock ignored clinical advice regarding testing in care homes. Additionally, the files reveal that UK authorities briefly considered the euthanization of all pet cats to prevent virus spread.

matt hancock· the telegraph· isabel oakeshott· lockdown files· whatsapp· uk

22:56 You agree with me there, right? Yeah, the numbers were pretty much the same. It was always analyzed as the flu. It had the same numbers as the flu in terms of its deadliness. So something interesting is going down in the UK. The lockdown files have been published. I don't know if you followed this. The Telegraph, a respectable newspaper, I would say, compared to what we mainly read, Daily News and The Sun. The Telegraph published... Still pretty... The Telegraph? It's a mouthpiece for the Democrats. They were very anti-Trump during their era. You mean the liberals? I mean, this is UK, right? Yeah. The Telegraph.

23:44 When I say Democrats, I'm referring to Americans. Oh, oh, okay. Well, no, this is a purely UK-based thing. No, I understand that. I understand completely. But when it came to talking about American politics, they were very pro-Democrat. Oh, okay. And they do talk about American politics quite a bit. So the lockdown files consist of 100,000 WhatsApp messages which have revealed some things about the lockdown. Catherine, these are fairly explosive allegations. Yes they certainly are. Broke late last night with the Telegraph front page saying fundamentally that Matt Hancock who was of course Health Secretary ignored the advice of Chris Witty the Chief Medical Officer to test

24:30 everybody going in to a care home. Now that of course is pretty damning and it has come from a hundred thousand WhatsApp messages that journalist Isabel Oakeshott handed over to The Telegraph. Now Isabel co-wrote Matt Hancock's pandemic diaries along with him and so was previously very friendly with him and now has that has obviously soured. Now Matt Hancock's team are absolutely incandescent with rage. They're saying that this is flat-out wrong, that the story has been distorted because there's a WhatsApp message referring to a meeting. They say in that meeting Matt Hancock was told, although he wanted to test everybody going into a care home, that they simply

25:20 didn't have the capacity and that is why he was therefore only able to test people going into care homes that were coming in from hospital. So they are very angry, they're threatening legal action. Isabel Oakeshott apparently would have signed a non-disclosure agreement and was writing in Matt Hancock's support when the pandemic diaries came out of basically that history would reflect that he'd done his best but that looks rather different today. Yeah, here's the takeaway. One, don't trust journalists. They'll screw you if they can. Two, erase your messages people. WhatsApp is, I'm sure that's not government level messaging approved protocol, I would think. That doesn't seem like a smart thing to have hanging around. In the lockdown files we also learn

26:17 The UK health authorities considered ordering the euthanization of all pet cats in the country. Wow, can't believe they missed that opportunity. It's great. So Europe is taking the TikTok thing very seriously. They're even presenting it as like legislation is done, TikTok's leaving America. Now the House of Foreign Affairs Committee has voted to give President Joe Biden new powers for an outright ban of TikTok and other social media apps.

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

DATA Act, TikTok Ban Legislation

The House Foreign Affairs Committee, led by Michael McCaul, voted to advance the DATA Act, which would grant the president powers to ban TikTok. The hosts argue that the security concerns are a pretext for protecting Silicon Valley companies from Chinese competition. They assert that TikTok's data collection is no more invasive than that of Facebook or Google.

data act· michael mccaul· tiktok· silicon valley· house foreign affairs committee

26:53 Lawmakers voted 26 to 16 to approve the measure. Republican Committee Chair Michael McCaul sponsored it. Democrats on the committee opposed the bill. TikTok is used by more than 100 million Americans. The measure would need to be passed by the full House and US Senate before it can go to Biden. TikTok has come under increased scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic as Western countries take a critical look at the Chinese company's reach and the security risks it may pose. Yeah, so this thing is... So why don't you explain to the audience what's the security risk?

27:32 Oh, the security risk. You're some guy jumping off the roof onto a rubber ball and then hitting the ground and hurting his back. Well, okay. Classic TikTok video. Yes. This is the Deterring America's Technological Adversaries Act, also known as the DATA Act, because, you know, data is like oil. Today's oil is like the data. So what they're saying is absolute bunk, Because there is no more or less data that TikTok as an app can glean than Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. I don't think they can get as much as Facebook. Facebook is probably getting more, you may be right. But because when you sign up,

28:19 It says, hey, you know, if you use TikTok anywhere else, not necessarily in the app, even though they can do it in the app, everyone can track your keystrokes in any app. In fact, you can see their software developer kits available where you can literally pick a user and replay their action like an instant replay. You can see the movement on the screen. So it's partially Bullcrap? Just, no, it's 100% bullcrap that, oh, we have to get rid of TikTok because, my assertion is TikTok is really eating Silicon Valley's lunch.

28:55 That's by the way to fall back on it that is no matter what anyone says about tick-tock or what even your current assertions That's the reason yes for it for the for this, but it's being spun into we can't have the Chinese The PRC we can't we can't have them getting a data on our people. Yeah, we want to track our people We can't have someone else doing that It's so cynical. So the national security problem is or the here's how they're playing it's national security issue and that's why we have to do this. Here in Washington tonight the crackdown on TikTok continues. The White House today gave government agencies 30 days to remove the video sharing app from all federal devices and computer systems. If it's an emergency why 30 days? Why not 30 hours? Well I have another question that's above that it's more meta.

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Federal Device TikTok Ban, DHS iMessage Deactivation

The White House has given government agencies 30 days to remove TikTok from all federal systems. Simultaneously, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has ordered the deactivation of iMessage on government-furnished Apple devices, forcing a shift to SMS and MMS. The hosts question why TikTok was ever allowed on federal devices and why the iMessage ban was more immediate than the TikTok removal.

dhs· imessage· tiktok· federal devices· apple· sms

29:53 What is TikTok or any product like that doing on any federal device? What's it doing there? I'm working for the government. I've got a government to hand me a phone and so what am I gonna do, dick around on TikTok and they're gonna allow that? What's it doing there in the first place? I'd track down everyone who had TikTok on the phones and fire them. It's interesting you bring that up. I just someone just sent me this this morning that the see where is this here the Department of Homeland Security has ordered everyone if I guess they give them iPhones That so they have a deal with Apple and they give the handout government iPhones to them their I message will be disabled and

30:54 I think within the next week, and they will only be able to communicate via SMS text message. So the government is disabling, I think, probably the security factor of the encryption. Maybe Apple doesn't want to crack encryption of people sending messages within Department of Homeland Security, I'm not sure. Here, deactivation of the iMessage service. DHS is mandated as of Wednesday, March 1st, yesterday. The Apple iMessage service option on DHS furnished Apple devices must be disabled. All text messages will be handled through cellular carrier short message service or multimedia message services. So, you know, they're cracking down on something, but why the, you see the immediacy of the iMessage, but

31:51 Not the TikTok, 30 days. I think there was also a 90-day limit here. The Office of Management and Budget says the move is aimed at protecting U.S. data. Officials suspect that China is using the app to spy on Americans. There you go. The ban does not impact the more than 100 million Americans and teens who use TikTok on non-government devices. Yeah, but it's just, that's how it's going to happen. You have to ask yourself, why doesn't Apple be a good citizen here and take it off? But we all know why. People would throw away their iPhones. I need my TikTok. Nobody needs TikTok, especially on a government product. People are addicted to TikTok. No, I mean, I look at TikTok. I don't use my phone to. I will go on, you know, someone will have a link to something and I'll play it on the web. I'm not tracking anything there. The main issue here is

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Gretchen Whitmer TikTok Comment, Apple BlueMail AI Block

Governor Gretchen Whitmer's comment about not being worried about TikTok because she only has "one phone" is mocked for its lack of clarity. In tech news, Apple blocked an update for the BlueMail app because it integrated ChatGPT-powered AI features without sufficient content filtering. The hosts view these moves as inconsistent corporate gatekeeping.

gretchen whitmer· apple· bluemail· artificial intelligence· chatgpt· app store

32:50 The people who voted against this, which is of course all the Democrats, but also some Republicans on the committee, clearly. I think, I don't know, let's find out who did. It's like, you know, this gives the president extraordinary powers. What? Being able to just throw any app out of the App Store because of, you know, national security issues. That's the way it's written up, is it gives the president the authority to do this. Which I find weird, you know, why wouldn't you just have Congress make a law and say no TikTok or nothing from China? Why bother? So Gretchen Whitmer had the best line about this whole thing. She said that she's not worried about TikTok because she's only got one phone. What? That's what she said. How is that good news?

33:44 Well, that's what she said. I don't know what it means. She just said, TikTok's not worrisome because she only has one phone. That's so odd. I don't know what she means by that. It's what you want. It's what you want for your governor. Well, it's interesting to see that Apple won't block TikTok, which is clearly, you know, un-American. Un-American to have that on your platform. By the way, you don't hear anyone saying that. You know, why isn't Marco Rubio or McCall from Texas, why aren't they saying, you know, Apple and Google, they're un-American by allowing this in their App Store? Wouldn't that solve it? But no. Apple did, however, block an email program

34:29 which I think is called email blue or something. And the reason why is because this app will write emails using AI, chat GPT. So Apple says, you know, we have a lot of concern about this, so we have to block that from the App Store. Blue mail is what it's called. Your app includes AI generated content but does not appear to include content filtering is the reason. So this is all bull crap, all of it. They're all full of crap. And for as far as I can see, let's not call it a pivot, but as far as I can see, this is all about focusing everybody on China. Let's just get this Ukraine war over with, let's focus on China.

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Bakhmut Assault, European Peace Protests

Ukrainian forces face a relentless assault in Bakhmut, with military officials signaling a potential tactical withdrawal. Meanwhile, large-scale peace protests occurred in London and Berlin, where demonstrators called for an end to Western military aid and a push for negotiations. In contrast, a march in Brussels showed continued support for arming Ukraine to defend democracy.

bakhmut· ukraine· london· berlin· nato· peace protest

35:19 Here's my Ukraine clip. That's all I got. It's 22 seconds. That's all I got about Ukraine. With Ukrainian forces coming under relentless assault in the city of Bakhmut, military officials now say they may be prepared to pull some troops back. Remarks appearing to suggest Russia could capture the eastern city that is viewed as a symbol of Ukrainian resistance to Russian occupation. Kremlin forces have staged a bloody month-long offensive to take the city which has pretty much become a ghost town. Yeah, I have a couple more clips. We start with what you will never see on the M5M here in the United States and you'll barely see it on the M5M in the EU where this is going down. This is from, I think, France 24. Marching for peace in Ukraine, hundreds took to the streets of London on Saturday urging a ceasefire and negotiations with Russia to end the conflict.

36:11 Among them, supporters of the campaign for nuclear disarmament, warning that any escalation in fighting would increase the chances of a nuclear war. Many wanted to see an end to Western military support for Ukraine. It would help if we stopped saying we'll just give you lots more weapons until you win the war. It's not going to happen like that. Ukrainians are really tough, Russians are really tough and NATO is really rich. So that's all the ingredients you need for a kind of endless war. Well this demonstration is one of many happening over this weekend across Europe. Now for these demonstrators, arming Ukraine is simply making things worse and prolonging the conflict. But others take a very different approach.

36:57 In the Belgian capital, many of those marching in solidarity with Ukraine were actually refugees from that country. We need the weapons for our defense. We need the sanctions against Russia. We need economical support because we defend not only our land, we defend all democracy world. While in Berlin a bigger protest, at least 10,000 turned up to say no to the idea of Germany arming Ukraine. We're demonstrating for peace and against intervention of our government

37:34 in that war that is not ours. The people that voted for those politicians, they did not know that they will push us into war and send weapons into countries that are in war. This is even against our constitution. So different messages, a no end in sight to the misery inflicted on the people of Ukraine. Yeah. Alright, so we have everyone except Brussels. Brussels is all, whatever it takes, Brussels. I wonder why Brussels? Hmm. Well, Biden keeps saying whatever it takes and then Trudeau recently says whatever it takes. And Janet Yellen?

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Janet Yellen Kiev Visit, Russian Asset Seizure

U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen made a surprise visit to Kiev to announce $1.2 billion in direct budget support, part of a larger $10 billion aid package. Yellen discussed further sanctions and the potential confiscation of frozen Russian assets to fund Ukrainian reconstruction. The hosts debate the legality of seizing sovereign Russian funds under international law.

janet yellen· kiev· volodymyr zelensky· russian assets· sanctions· budget support

38:18 Surprise visit to good old Volodymyr. She just popped by Ukraine to say hi. As we mark one year since the beginning of this full-scale invasion, the message I bring you from President Biden is simple. America will stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes. U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen swept into Kiev on Monday in a surprise visit to reaffirm U.S. support for Ukraine as it fights Russia's invasion, highlighting U.S. economic aid that is bolstering Ukraine's war effort.

38:53 And today I'm proud to announce the transfer of an additional amount of over $1.2 billion. That's the first tranche of about $10 billion in direct budget support that the United States will provide in the coming months. Yellen met with President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmihal. Shmihal said the two discussed further US sanctions on Russia as well as confiscating frozen Russian assets. You know what's missing? Well, I'm still hanging at the frozen Russian assets. They're gonna take the Russian money to rebuild. They're not gonna get away with that. Yes they are, of course they are. No they're not. They're not gonna get away with that. They're not gonna take it. Why not? Why not?

39:45 Because it's illegal. It's against international law to do what they're gonna try to do. Okay, what inter- name the international law and who maintains this international law? You- I'm just telling you that's not gonna happen. You- if you think it's gonna happen, okay, we'll put the dollar on it. Done. Here's what's missing. When's the bet end? As long as it takes. Ah! I'll never get my dollar. So, um... There's something missing from all these reports. If you remember the, well you don't want to remember the Vietnam War and some of these other wars, they would usually have a daily death toll. There has been very little talk of the death toll. It's as if they're wiping out the male reproductive

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Ukrainian Soldier Casualties, Sperm Freezing Trend

France 24 reports on a trend of Ukrainian soldiers freezing their sperm before heading to the front lines due to high casualty rates. The hosts note the lack of official death tolls for Ukrainian forces compared to the frequent reporting on Russian losses. They suggest the war is having a devastating impact on the male reproductive demographic in Ukraine.

kiev· sperm freezing· casualties· ukrainian army· france 24

40:31 That is very interesting because I came across this report from France 24. couple in Kiev, Svetlana and Nikola, have repeatedly discussed having a child because he is in the Ukrainian army. She's 25, he's 30. They met just four months before Russia's full-scale invasion a year ago. The war accelerated things and made us think about the sincerity of our feelings and the values we share.

41:12 They are now engaged to be married and want a child. They aim to freeze and store Mikhalych's sperm before he goes to the front. I suggested it. I wasn't thinking of the worst that could happen. I told him that if injuries damaged his ability to have children, at least we would have this solution. Yeah, so they're just freezing their sperm, sending them off to be killed. There was a couple of reports that have come out here and there that say that the average lifespan for a Ukrainian soldier on the front lines is one hour. Yeah. No, no, they're being slaughtered. They're being absolutely slaughtered. Of course there's not going to be any count of that.

41:58 And that's what's missing. If you remember, anyone remembers war stories from any of the other little battles, they always talk about the casualties. They didn't talk about the casualties in Iraq of the civilians, which was a quarter of a million people. At least. But they're just really, you know, they say, well there's a hundred thousand Russians killed, they sometimes mention that. They're killing them all off. That's the only thing you'll hear is how many Russians died. You're right, that's the only thing you hear in that regard. Meanwhile back home and by the way, you can set any date you want on that on that dollar because At least I have them saying they're going to do it and saying that they're going to set up a new Special court for that and they're going to change international law for that So if you can find something to the contrary instead of just it's never gonna happen I'd respect that but I'll take the dollar after December 1st of this year. Oh boy

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Sean Penn Ukraine Advocacy, F-16 Fighter Jets

Actor Sean Penn appeared on CNN to advocate for sending F-16 fighter jets and long-range precision weapons to Ukraine. Penn described the impact of President Biden's trip to Kiev and relayed conversations with Ukrainian intelligence officers. The hosts criticize Penn as a "warmonger" who has been indoctrinated by the military-industrial complex.

sean penn· cnn· f-16· volodymyr zelensky· raytheon· boeing

43:01 Here is December 1st of this year good. Here's our current warmonger the ever so peace-loving Sean Penn on CNN with broth I'd like to say is you know having just just returned from Ukraine about 10 days ago or so is that the the impact of President Biden's trip was extraordinary. I mean, that's that that's extremely encouraging. I think that one of the things that's concerned me and I you know, I think that there's no question but that they need more ammunition, more long-range precision weapons, and yes, fighter jets. And the issue really is that

43:47 You know, right now they're dying. Every day they're dying. So what we're waiting for seems to still be attached to this. This is interesting. He is saying they're dying, they're dying, they're dying. This is actually the only person who's kind of being a little bit honest about that. But now he's saying, you know, we need to kill and kill other people. You know, that we can't have. You can't go outside if you're not vaccinated, says Sean Penn, because you're killing people. But meanwhile, I want F-16s to kill people. I would argue overcautious concern. War monger. Nuclear weapons because... And nuclear weapons is just not true. It's just a joke according to him. For one thing, if we're going to...

44:32 live in a world where a bully with nuclear weapons runs the show. You know, there was a... This is interesting. Was it not Volodymyr Zelensky who was the first one to say we need nuclear weapons in Ukraine? Wasn't he being the bully by saying that? a former intelligence officer I'd spoken to in Ukraine at one point he said you know he doesn't live in that world and Ukraine won't and so I just think we have to make a clear decision to start saving lives, saving infrastructure and by killing other people what that means is supplying the Ukrainians. They have no interest in having Americans or others in the fight. They're ready to take the fight themselves and their ability to transition on these platforms be it the S16s or when it comes to the Patriot.

45:27 I just love Sean Penn so indoctrinated by the military-industrial complex who no doubt are flying him in and out every single time. Where now he's talking about these platforms, you know, because he's so schooled on the F-16 platform, the Patriot platform, you know, just as called what it is, the Raytheon and Boeing platform. Sean Penn, you are a horrible warmonger. is not, I don't think there's been an honest conversation about how quickly they can transition. I think there's a lot in the air about how long it takes, how maintenance, fueling, all of that. But there are many ways in which that can be sped up. Yeah, speed it up everybody. You need to speed it up. So what is a guy like that? He's an actor.

46:15 he goes over there and of course he did a little movie or something before but he's over there now and he's and he's talking to an intelligence officer. How many people? Former intelligence officer. I don't think he said former. He did. He said former. Okay. But it doesn't matter. It just doesn't seem like the kind of thing you when you're traveling around under any circumstances you're gonna be talking to too many of those guys. Why are they talking? Hi Sean, good to meet you. I'm a former intelligence officer. Yeah that sounds right.

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Jens Stoltenberg and Sanna Marin, NATO Membership

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin held a joint press conference affirming that Ukraine's future lies within the alliance. Marin repeatedly emphasized the need for "heavy weapons" and continued support "as long as it takes." The hosts mock Marin's repetitive talking points and her alignment with the broader NATO narrative.

jens stoltenberg· sanna marin· nato· finland· heavy weapons· ukraine

46:54 Then we had our NATO chief, it's really, these people are insane, Jens Stoltenberg, standing next to the prime puppet minister of Finland, you know, the millennial girl. The girl, yeah, she's the dancer. Yes, and all she... The party girl. The party girl, exactly. But she did not bump into the furniture. She read her lines after the tee up from the set up here, from the alley-oop set up from Jens. NATO allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member of our alliance but at the same time that is a long-term perspective. What is the issue now is to ensure that Ukraine prevails as a sovereign independent nation and therefore we need to support Ukraine.

47:43 I see that the future of Ukraine is to be part of European Union and also member of NATO. We have taken many steps forward when it comes to military aid to Ukraine, and I'm very glad that we are now cooperating together much more closely to to give Ukraine more heavy weapons. I think the discussion now... Heavy weapons? She has the Sean Penn talking points. Heavy weapons, that's what he said too. To give Ukraine more heavy weapons. I think the discussion now, even though it's Have taken some time. It's been very important concerning for example the Leopards so Countries are cooperating together more closely and more widely and this is a very good thing We have to support Ukraine as long as it takes They also need more heavy weapons She's literally gone into a loop is repeating herself Italy and this is a very good thing we have to support

48:42 support Ukraine as long as it takes. And they also need more heavy weapons. And the faster and the sooner we can give them more heavy weapons, the sooner the war will end. And this is something that we also need, that cooperation between the democratic countries. Finland has taken many decisions on armed support to Ukraine, and we are willing to continue this as long as it takes. Wow, she keeps saying the same thing over and over. Yeah, she's caught in the loop. As long as it takes. She said it at least three times. Yeah, but she had the same pen, speeded up, heavy weapons. This is all so... By the way, Penn didn't say the former intelligence officer was CIA. I mean, whoever it was indoctrinated him good.

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Sergey Lavrov Bio-Lab Claims, Victoria Nuland

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claims the Pentagon is concerned about losing control over biological war labs in Kiev and Odessa. Lavrov asserts that the U.S. has been developing pathogens near the Russian border. The hosts reference previous testimony from Victoria Nuland as partial confirmation that biological research facilities exist in Ukraine.

sergey lavrov· pentagon· bio-labs· kiev· odessa· victoria nuland

49:30 That's how it works. Hey man, I'm just giving you some inside info, you know, because I'm former, former CIA. So, you know, clearly, oh, you know, the agency boys, I'm not supposed to tell you this, but the agency boys tell you, you know, like, we really need to speed this up, we need to get the heavy weapons in as long as it takes. And that's how it works. I think Sean Penn is dumb. It's very possible he's just dumb. Sean Penn has a lot of earmarks of a person who's dumb. You know, it's like, how else can you come to these conclusions? Now Russia in the meantime, they're just piling it on now. This is a foreign minister Lavrov with a translator about the

50:13 biological warfare that this is really about it has arrived and we have had data and have data that Pentagon the Pentagon is preoccupied about the chemical and biological installations in Ukraine because Pentagon built two biological war labs and they have been developing pathogens there in Kiev and in Odessa and now they are concerned that they may lose control over these labs. And you know what it may be like in future and Americans decline flatly and resolutely to start the inspection mechanism as part of the

50:55 Convention for the prohibition of chemical weapons and they build new chemical and biological facilities all across Russian borders and You know many other developments happened the CIA has been on the ground in droves and they have been training the Ukrainian army not to wage a war with Poland apparently. Really? So CIA is swarming talking to Sean Penn letting him know as former intelligence officers and they're kind of worried about the bio labs which I think we kind of got confirmation on from Victoria Newland that they were real that we have bio labs. Yes we do. So yeah that's another thing that's deja vu again. Just a little bit.

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

Drone Strikes in Russia, Pentagon Weapon Losses

Mysterious drone strikes have been reported deep inside Russian territory, including one within 60 miles of Moscow. Vladimir Putin has ordered the FSB to tighten border security in response. Additionally, the Pentagon has acknowledged that some weapons sent to Ukraine are being lost or captured by Russian forces, leading to concerns about arms proliferation.

moscow· fsb· bakhmut· drones· pentagon· afghanistan

51:41 And ABC had kind of this screwball report. Tonight a series of mysterious drone strikes inside Russia according to the Kremlin. Videos circulating online show an explosion at an oil depot. Smoke billowing into the sky. Another drone believed to be targeting a gas facility striking deep inside Russia. It came within just 60 miles of Moscow. The Kremlin blaming Ukraine, but so far no claim of responsibility. How can Ukraine send a drone 60 miles from Moscow? Are you kidding me? That's us Vladimir Putin today ordering his federal security service the FSB to take over border security And he even made a rare admission saying there have been losses in our ranks Many of those losses are in eastern Ukraine in back moot Desperate for a win after more than a year of war Moscow is sending in fighter jets

52:35 battering endless buildings with artillery and losing countless lives, all to take now ruined Bakhmut. Those determined to stay, trying to survive with the relentless sound of gunfire and explosions. Buildings burning, but no one is coming to help here. The Ukraine spirit of survival unbroken. Today Ukraine announcing additional units are on their way to Bakhmut. The soldier saying though the city is on fire, Ukraine will live. A couple of interesting articles. The Pentagon is now saying that yeah, you know we are losing a lot of weapons that are going into Ukraine that we're sending. But that's because Russia is taking them.

53:28 Yeah, I saw this report too that networks have been promoting this idea. Yeah, right. That Russia's overrunning these guys and then taking the weapons. And they're taking them to Africa, I guess. Yeah, the thing that gets me I still don't understand whether Russians haven't gone to Afghanistan and picked up the weapons the 80 billion dollars were the stuff we left there. I thought that the I thought Isis was already moving in to help them personally. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff there that could be useful. Yeah, possibly.

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Lack of Russophobia, ISS Space Cooperation

The hosts observe that despite the conflict, a 1950s-style "Red Scare" has failed to ignite among the American public. They point to the continued cooperation between NASA and Roscosmos, including a recent SpaceX launch carrying a Russian cosmonaut to the International Space Station. The crew members reportedly avoid discussing politics to maintain their working relationship in space.

russophobia· red scare· iss· spacex· putin· nasa

54:08 Zelensky predicted that Putin will be killed by his inner circle, that he'll just wind up you know getting pushed out of a window. Yeah sure. You know what kind of dawned on me is these freaks who are doing this, the Newlands, the Jake Sullivan's, the Ned Prince, the Obama's, okay Biden for whatever's left of his brain matter, CIA, you know the whole government apparatus that wants to do this, that wants to get rid of everybody and wants to you You know, they did freeze Russia's money, you know, so you can call that theft if you want to, but, you know, threw them off the SWIFT system, the 10th round of sanctions, all this stuff going on. But there's no Russia phobia. They haven't been able to ignite what was the Red Scare. Because no one is afraid of Russians. We have Putin phobia, yeah. Oh yeah, Putin, bad guy.

55:03 You know what I mean? It doesn't resemble in any way the Red Scare, like the commies are coming or anything like this. None of it. Yeah, the communists under your bed in the 50s. They can't ignite that. It's not possible. People are too intertwined, mainly thanks to TikTok. We watch Russian videos. I don't think anyone hates Russians. Anyone who's watched the Russian car crash videos. Loves the Russians. I mean, while we still have that going on and also while we, you know, we literally shot, we're carrying Russians to the International Space Station. Yeah, we did a launch recently. This morning in fact.

55:42 before you go let me see this clip I've asked all the crew members both Russians and Americans how do you deal with that on the station that's a lot of tension do you discuss Putin and do you discuss Ukraine or do you just leave it off the table and all of them said we don't go there we've got very important issues our lives depend on each other we simply don't talk politics and Russia and America continue this relationship in space because they're partners in the International Space Station and they need each other. And so this crew, which will dock to the station tomorrow, is arriving just as they've also had some drama on the station. They've had two Russian spacecraft over the last few months develop

56:23 leaks, coolant leaks. One of them, a cargo ship, they had to free up and let go and it burned up in the atmosphere on re-entry. The other one, a Soyuz spacecraft, was supposed to be the lifeboat in case they had to evacuate the station. So they had been without a lifeboat for one American and two Russians. Russia just launched another replacement lifeboat, a Soyuz, last week. But that's been the concern. What has been causing these micro-leaks? They think it's a micro-meteor strike that have taken out the coolant systems on a Soyuz and a Progress cargo ship. Again, they dock tomorrow, six months on the space station doing some 200 experiments. So a lot of universities are watching very closely to see their experiments are going to be completed. Guys, back to you. All right. Tom Costello there from the Kennedy Space Center on that SpaceX launch. Tom, thank you. Oh, thank you, Tom. Riveting. Just riveting. We're carrying a Russian. So we just don't have that Russia phobia and so people aren't invested in this.

57:24 And I don't even think we have love for Ukraine. It's like, look at Zelensky, isn't he hot? Zelensky seems like an asshole. Well, of course, he's an actor. No wonder Sean Penn gets along with him so well. Absolutely. I got two more clips here. One is... Yeah, the characters, you know, there's no investment in the characters. No, there's no character development. You're right. Yeah. I mean, it's just like it's like watching one of these a movie or something unfold and you don't care about anybody at all. No. And so you can't, you know, if you don't get invested, you stop watching. That's right. Oh yeah, I think I think it's disastrous now for the ratings. It's definitely not working for ratings anymore. People don't care. They're moving on. We're much, we're too worried about TikTok being taken away.

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Stu Peters Body Double Theory, Maxim Donetsk

France 24's "Truth or Fake" segment deconstructs a theory promoted by influencer Stu Peters regarding a body double for Volodymyr Zelensky. The "double" was identified as Maxim Donetsk, Zelensky's official bodyguard, who shares a similar build but has distinct facial features. The hosts discuss the prevalence of such theories on Telegram and the history of CIA disguise technology.

stu peters· volodymyr zelensky· body double· maxim donetsk· france 24· telegram

58:20 Gotta have that in my vein 24-7. France 24 did a very interesting, they call it truth or fake I think. Yeah they do that. We highlighted this a couple years ago. I started doing it weekly and then it was not that interesting. Oh so they did one which I like for a number of reasons. One, they are trying to take down Stu Peters who I think you and I both find a questionable character. Absolutely. And they're taking down him based on two conspiracy theories. And one of them I wouldn't have even brought up, but since Stu Peters appears, I mean, and when you hear how unhinged he is about this, it's, you know, Zelinsky has a guy, his bodyguard, and the bodyguard looks a bit like him.

59:13 And so, you know, this is a typical telegram item. People on telegram, oh man, look at this, that's his body double, is it the real one? It's the body double. Now we know the body doubles exist. We've caught a few of them, Hillary Clinton for sure. But really the technology for masks and to have someone else look like, like be the person you think they are, that, I mean, that was, The stuff that you saw, what was the Tom Cruise movie? Is that Mission Impossible? Yeah, Mission Impossible. The old TV shows would show this and if you listen to the CIA experts like that woman that was the costumer.

59:54 It sounds like it's beyond our comprehension how good this is. And it is. I mean the technology, I have heard firsthand from family members that in the late 60s this technology was already good enough to fool people. And that's probably what the CIA disguised lady shows. Well this is what we were doing 50 years ago. So it's going to be much better. So that whole premise is just a Stu Peters distraction. I know a lot of people love him like, oh he's talent like it is. He should do a show with James O'Keefe. They should team up together and all be on Tim Pool. Yes Fraser, this week Stu Peters, the American far-right influencer and TV host has published no less than three misleading pieces of information. Three?

1:00:42 surrounding the war in Ukraine. One of them published just two days ago shows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and US President Joe Biden climbing the stairs together in Kiev's Mariinsky Palace. Now, in the video attached to these tweets, we can see a man resembling Volodymyr Zelensky appear, follow the two and then suddenly stop. Now, according to Stu Peters, this represents a glitch in the matrix. So and what she's doing is she's showing his tweets and she's circling on the big screen glitch in the matrix Which by the way pisses me off to just using the word glitch disqualifies you but you know, it's like oh wow, man What is this must be a deep fake? What's going on glitch in the matrix? And he went on to perpetuate the theory that this man is a look-alike or a double of Vladimir Zelensky now This is a theory that we've seen for a long time from Russian propagandists. He's a Russian propagandist

1:01:39 Ending the war in Ukraine we've covered this a lot here on truth or fake before and it's very visible on pro-russian accounts on telegram and on Twitter Notice the yeah, very pro-russian accounts telegram and Twitter. That's where you go. That's where you go. Hang out if you're pro-russian is Maxim Donetsk he is Vladimir Zelensky's official bodyguard. This is a photo of from the same visit published by French media L'Express and as we can see he does have a similar height and build to the Ukrainian president but he does have very discernible, distinguishable and different facial features. Now we can see him again in these photos published last August with Boris Johnson but again similar height and build but they are very very much different people.

1:02:28 I just love that they go to such lengths to even discuss this. Peter's also shared this tweet with his followers earlier this week and this one racked up over 17 million views. Now this is interesting, you probably saw the montage where you see all these buildings that were partially or really heavily damaged and they're now all rebuilt and beautiful and pristine. Which in my mind, now when I saw it when I first saw this I'm like well It's easy to just reverse the pictures, you know This is now instead of it was then but it turns out they have literally been rebuilding these buildings during the war

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Ukraine Building Reconstruction, Kiev Gazette

A controversy involving photos of rebuilt buildings in Ukraine has led some to claim the war is staged. France 24 reports that reconstruction has been ongoing in Kiev since Russian troops withdrew last March, documented by local media like "The Village." The hosts find the rapid reconstruction peculiar and suggest it may involve significant payouts to contractors.

kiev· reconstruction· the village· war hoax· contractors

1:01:39 Ending the war in Ukraine we've covered this a lot here on truth or fake before and it's very visible on pro-russian accounts on telegram and on Twitter Notice the yeah, very pro-russian accounts telegram and Twitter. That's where you go. That's where you go. Hang out if you're pro-russian is Maxim Donetsk he is Vladimir Zelensky's official bodyguard. This is a photo of from the same visit published by French media L'Express and as we can see he does have a similar height and build to the Ukrainian president but he does have very discernible, distinguishable and different facial features. Now we can see him again in these photos published last August with Boris Johnson but again similar height and build but they are very very much different people.

1:02:28 I just love that they go to such lengths to even discuss this. Peter's also shared this tweet with his followers earlier this week and this one racked up over 17 million views. Now this is interesting, you probably saw the montage where you see all these buildings that were partially or really heavily damaged and they're now all rebuilt and beautiful and pristine. Which in my mind, now when I saw it when I first saw this I'm like well It's easy to just reverse the pictures, you know This is now instead of it was then but it turns out they have literally been rebuilding these buildings during the war

1:03:10 which I also kind of find like odd considering everything's under attack. He posted these two photos of the same building in Ukraine. One was taken last year in February 2022 and one from this year in 2023. Now he claims that this war is fake or staged and that these buildings couldn't possibly have been touched by any missiles or bombs because it would be impossible to restore the building to this condition in this time. Again, this is a popular pro-Russian theory that we have seen in Russia. Again, even on truth or fake, the war being a hoax. Now, this building's reconstruction has been pretty heavily documented in both Western and Ukrainian media. After Russian troops withdrew from Kiev last March, that is exactly what allowed this building to be rebuilt.

1:04:01 And as it was discussed quite heavily in this article from Ukraine's The Village, the building was documented stage by stage of its reconstruction, Fraser. Okay, so I will mention that I find a couple things strange. The Russians withdraw from Kiev? Did they ever enter Kiev? Not that I know of. Not that I know of either. They had their tanks nearby that they were running down to Don Basque and then she's on boss She says this has been heavily documented in Western media as well as others and then the example she gives is the Keeve Gazette I mean, that's we know that trick is an intelligence trick. Well, according to the to the Keeve Times So she doesn't quote the New York Times or any other Washington Post or anything like that

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Douglas MacGregor, Global Financial Community War Motives

Colonel Douglas MacGregor argues that the war in Ukraine is driven by the global financial community and allies in London seeking to dismember the Russian state. MacGregor claims that Western interests, including Goldman Sachs, attempted to exploit Russia's vast mineral and energy resources in the 1990s before being expelled by Vladimir Putin. The hosts express skepticism toward MacGregor's "trope-heavy" rhetoric.

douglas macgregor· goldman sachs· nato· wall street· putin· resources

1:04:50 So I, but in general, it's like, really? I didn't know that they actually were rebuilding. Well, no wonder we need the money from Russia. We've got to pay off the contractors for work already performed. Yeah, that is peculiar. Final clip is from Douglas MacGregor. You don't like him? We've talked about Douglas MacGregor before. I tried to get a hold of him, but our podcast and No Agenda Show is too beneath him to even discuss anything. Wow, this comes from some lowly podcast. I can't believe it. Yeah, I know. That's what it got me. Well, maybe because we were just that we weren't even no So do we now not trust him because he sure I don't distrust him. I just think he's a douchebag. Oh, okay Well, the question is posed Who's behind this war? so the the first question that I wanted to get down to is Who is it that really wants this war and

1:05:49 between NATO and Vladimir Putin? Well, I think it's clear that the American people are largely divorced from the reality of this conflict as they have been for the last 30 years. Divorced from all the conflicts. War has always been something that happened far away on somebody else's soil. The difference this time is that Washington has decided, along with help and assistance, particularly from its allies in London, and the global financial community run out of New York City to wage war on the Russian state with the goal of not simply regime change but ultimately destroying the state, potentially dismembering it. When you look at the people who are advocates for this terrible destructive policy, they are largely the same people that got us into the Balkans in the 1990s, into Bosnia and Kosovo,

1:06:45 And then subsequently, we're largely supportive of the interventions in 2001 and 2003, perpetual warfare in the Middle East, demonizing and transforming into an enemy Libya, Syria, and obviously Iran. This is an old story. It's the same old trope that you've been hearing. It's 1936 again. We have another potential Hitlerian state and if we don't act, we are appeasers and the world as we know it will end. So, that's about it. But I think there's a lot of money behind this because Russia is full of trillions of dollars of resources, mineral resources, oil, gas, precious metals.

1:07:32 agricultural, we just go down the list. There was an attempt in the 90s and in the early part of this century by people from the West, many of whom are connected to organizations like Goldman Sachs and the global financial community, to go in and effectively rape Russia and steal everything they possibly could from it. They were ultimately defeated and thrown out by Vladimir Putin, who established a new regime to bring some more stability and dignity back to the Russian state. It's a trope for sure when you throw out Goldman Sachs.

1:08:08 Why don't you just say Zionists? Well, along with all those NGOs, which Putin figured that out. I mean, you have to give Putin some credit for recognizing that the NGOs were fronts. Right, but were they connected to Goldman Sachs? I didn't know that. I don't know that they were or not, but they were fronts and everything had to go. I don't know how much Goldman Sachs was involved in any of this. He said trope. I'm actually accusing him of saying this is the Zionist globalists. When you bring in Goldman Sachs and you say it's true... When you bring in Goldman Sachs, you're hinting at it. Yeah. But that's true. It doesn't sound right to me. I mean, military industrial complex... Well, it doesn't give us a real concise answer to the real question, which was, what's the point? Yeah. I mean, military industrial complex, yeah. Yeah, I believe that. They're high on their own supply. They can't get enough of it. They love it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do more. But just to call out Wall Street? Hmm. Maybe.

1:09:08 I'm skeptical. Yeah, I'm skeptical too. But you know until the guy talks to us. He's just on the skeptical list He's never talking unless he answers our questions You've got to talk to us man. You're no good. No good All right, I think that is the That's probably the main the main crux of what we've got there. It just seems like yeah, we're getting everybody all riled up and They're gonna take away your TikTok. It's gonna be bad. The TikTok thing is ludicrous. It would be. I'm all for it, by the way. Get rid of TikTok. I like TikTok. Of course you do. It's ruining people. I see grown men doom-scrolling for an hour. Well, I've never been that attached to it, but I mean, I will look at stuff.

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Supreme Court Student Loan Hearing, Amy Coney Barrett

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments regarding President Biden's plan to forgive student loan debt for 40 million Americans. Conservative justices, including John Roberts, expressed skepticism about the executive branch's authority to bypass Congress on such a massive expenditure. The hosts discuss Justice Amy Coney Barrett's performance and the potential for the plan to encourage further tuition hikes.

supreme court· student loans· joe biden· amy coney barrett· john roberts· debt forgiveness

1:10:11 And then I do admire the fact that they do try to figure out what you're into. You know, what you're being attracted to. The problem is I have these software systems that clear all my caches, throw out the cookies, does do all these things every night. So I don't know how much, you know, they... They have to relearn my viewing habits every time I go on TikTok. And I only do it maybe a couple times a week. Right, but do you use an account or you just... No, I've never signed up. Because from what I've seen, once you view one video, if you want to view another one, then it forces you into a sign-up mode. No, I've never had that problem.

1:10:49 I go on there not signed up. I don't have an account. I go view a video. They throw another one at me. Then another and I can be there for days if I wanted to be. That's never happened. Oh, well that's probably because your cookies are... You're new every single time. You're a new person. Maybe. Maybe that, yeah. Let's see, what other distraction do we have? This is a big one here in the United States. Back here in Washington, President Biden's plan to forgive student loan debt for more than 40 million Americans is facing its toughest test yet, the Supreme Court. The justices heard arguments today on two different challenges brought by six Republican-led states and two student loan borrowers. CSGN Crawford is outside the Supreme Court.

1:11:35 Students came to make their voices heard. There's a lot of anxiety and fear. 25 year old Jenea Moore would see about a third of her students. Oh, totally printed signs. I mean, they had the union boss, Randy Gardner, right there. 25 year old Jenea Moore would see about a third of her $70,000 student loan debt erased under President Biden's forgiveness plan. I feel like my life is on the line if it doesn't get canceled. She is one of 43 million people eligible for some student loan debt relief. Those making less than $125,000 a year could get $10,000 in debt forgiven. Those with Pell Grants could get $20,000 erased. But that comes at a cost, nearly half a trillion dollars. Critics say on an issue this big, Congress has to sign off.

1:12:23 Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is one of the state Republican leaders urging the court to kill the program. As someone who paid for my school and blood, sweat and tears in service to my nation, that's an issue that's near and dear to my heart. I'm confident the court will reach the right decision. A confidence that was bolstered during three hours of arguments as conservative justices seem skeptical that President Biden could single handedly forgive student debt for 95% of borrowers. I think most casual observers would say... Whoa! I didn't know it was 95% of borrowers. It seemed like it was a lot less last time they were talking about this. 95%!

1:13:03 That's a lot. 55% of borrowers. I think most casual observers would say if you're going to give up that much amount of money, if you're going to affect the obligations of that many Americans on a subject that's of great controversy, they would think that's something for Congress to act on. But liberal justices said the law gave the administration power to act during national emergencies like COVID. There's a 50 million students who are will benefit from this, who today will struggle. But the Republican leaders who are fighting to stop the Biden plan say all that debt cancellation will cost their state's money. A decision in this case is expected by the end of June. How will it cost the state's money? I have no idea. A couple of things.

1:13:55 The guy, a number of observers in the market have said that this is like, you know, rewarding bad behavior because it was stupid to take out some of these loans and people were taking them out left and right and encouraged to do so. They didn't have to pay for these loans during COVID, so that excuse is over. And supposedly we have the lowest unemployment ever, so people can get jobs and making $125,000 a year should give you enough leeway in most situations to start paying off the loan at whatever rate that you can pay it off at. The other thing is Amy, that Amy Coney Barrett, Coney, whatever her name is. Yeah, Amy Coney Barrett. She's turning out to be a bad actor. Really? Yeah. She wants to, there's a number of cases that have gone through and she's always showing up as kind of on the wrong side of the argument. And I'm thinking she's going to turn out to be a bad justice. Interesting. Interesting.

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Randi Weingarten Student Debt Outrage

Teachers union head Randi Weingarten expressed outrage over the legal challenges to student debt relief, comparing the situation to pandemic-era aid for small and big businesses. Weingarten argues that it is unfair to block relief for students while corporations received government help. The hosts suggest the teachers union has a vested interest in the plan as it supports the university system.

randi weingarten· teachers union· student loans· ppp· democrat party

1:14:52 Or maybe she's just really fair and you're biased. No, no, she's not. She's not being fair. Okay. I'm not biased. You know that. That's right. Straight and narrow. So talking about court cases... Wait, wait. I want to play Randy Winegarden's outrage clip. Who's Randy Winegarden? Oh, only the boss of the teachers union. Only one of the biggest donators to the Democratic Party. Democrat Party. She's outraged about what? About this, about the student loans. Listen to her logic.

1:15:29 And this is what really pisses me off. During the pandemic, we understood that small businesses were hurting and we helped them. And we didn't go to the Supreme Court to challenge it. Big businesses were hurting and we helped them and it didn't go to the Supreme Court to challenge it. All of a sudden, what is about our students? They challenge it, the corporations challenge it, the student loan lenders challenge it. That is not right, that is not fair, and that is what we are fighting as well when we say, asshole student debt. She's pretty worked up over this.

1:16:11 The other aspect of this that people don't want to face, and it would be the benefit for the teachers unions, but even though they don't really have much impact in the university system, this will just encourage tuition hikes. Yes, exactly. That's what it always does. So maybe it's all just a gimme for Randy. I mean, that would make some sense, yeah. But it's gonna be, they say conservative estimates half a trillion dollars, it'll probably be more. Oh, but no, it's gonna be over a trillion. That's what I think. Maybe they just need to get killed though. Because John Roberts of all the people in the court are really irked about this idea that Biden can do this. And why does the court even get to or have to decide on this?

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Project Veritas Boardroom Coup, Viva Frei and Robert Barnes

The hosts discuss the recent leadership changes at Project Veritas and the departure of James O'Keefe. They critique a podcast by Viva Frei and Robert Barnes, noting that while the duo mentioned "No Agenda," they seemed unfamiliar with the show's specific reporting on the Veritas boardroom situation. The hosts dismiss the "boardroom coup" narrative as a distraction.

project veritas· james o'keefe· viva frei· robert barnes· rumble

1:16:57 It got bumped up from some lower courts because there were some suits and it just ended up in the Supreme Court on their desk and now they have to decide it. I think they, I don't even know if they finalized deciding on even talking about it because Colme Barrett doesn't want to take the case. Yeah, I can understand. Hot potato. Well, what difference does it make to them? I was watching the podcast Viva Fry, the Canadian guy. Yeah, I didn't like it at all. I know exactly which one you watched. The one about Scott... what no, was it... it was about Scott Adam? No, it was about James O'Keefe, right? Project Veritas?

1:17:37 Well, I don't have any clips on whatever that what you're talking about. Oh, okay So you didn't really watch the whole thing. Someone gave you a clip of the end. No. No, I got clips here I watched the whole thing. I may have skipped past that some of the stuff that was boring. Okay. Well, that's very possible No, it was a whole podcast and they had a whole piece about about Project Veritas in there, where they literally... Oh no, I remember that, I remember that, you're right. Where they're literally saying that, you know, this was a boardroom coup and that this is to cover up the drug gangs. Yeah, they were, they bought in, right, they bought into the bullshit. Yeah, big time.

1:18:13 Yeah, so I just skipped it, it didn't bother me. And I like this guy Robert Barnes, but this is what I went to the clip for, for this. This is the Viva $33 No Agenda plug. I don't even know what, it's a $33 Rumble Rant, 117513. If you haven't already been referred the last two or three shows of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe, have had small reports about Veritas from a high level at Veritas to the show. I don't know what ITM means. Viva Frye! Every single time someone brings up Noah Jenna to him, he forgets about it. He doesn't remember. Remember the truckers thing? Someone had an NA t-shirt on? Anyway, and by the way, it was Barnes is the one who was unhinged about the whole affair.

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Insurance Company Data Sharing, Medical Privacy Collusion

Attorney Robert Barnes claims that insurance companies are secretly sharing private medical information to fix prices and deny coverage. One of the hosts recounts a personal anecdote from a traffic school in Oakland where an instructor was arrested after detailing the dirty tricks and shared databases used by auto insurance companies. The story highlights systemic collusion within the insurance industry.

insurance· medical data· privacy· oakland· traffic school· collusion

1:19:04 Not Viva Frye, it was Barnes. He's the one that's all like, oh, this is, this is the, they're going to be lawsuits and the board is going to be taken down and like, okay. Oh, yeah. I could see him going there. I just pretty much skipped over that whole thing because I knew they didn't know what they were talking about. No. But he has some good stuff at the end that I thought was good when they do the little rundowns. Okay. I have a few of them here. All right. And one of them includes a story that I have and I think people should, I'd like to know if anyone else knows anything about this. This is Robert Barnes on insurance. We have insurance companies. are requiring when you re-up your insurance, probably most people don't know, insurance companies are secretly sharing your medical information with all the other insurance companies to collude, and in my view, price fix in violation of your privacy rights. What happened here was they misinterpreted the person's request.

1:19:59 as having certain health problems he did not have, lied to other insurers, including that data in there, so he couldn't get life insurance from anybody, and only found out later and had to sue, but in the process outed how private insurance companies are collusively, illicitly sharing your private medical information to make sure that you can't get qualified insurance. Well, that would make sense. It makes sense to me, and especially after the experience I had personally. Do tell. So I got into a car wreck years ago under Interrental. I was in Phoenix. This is before I even knew you, clearly. Maybe. And I don't really discuss this sort of thing. Rental cars to me are cars you can have fun with. So I got into a wreck and I got a ticket in Phoenix

1:20:54 And I couldn't, you know, they say, you can get this wiped off of your insurance record by taking a school in driver's ed or whatever they want to call it, traffic school. You have to take this course. And so I shopped around, I said, I'll do that because I don't need this aggravation. So I signed up for the cheapest course that goes in Chinatown, Oakland. So I go to this class, it's a live class, and this guy, this Chinese guy, he never really tells you anything about driving or better driving or anything. He just tells you all the dirty tricks that the insurance companies pull to jack up your prices. And he talks about you don't want to do this, you don't want to do that. He's very educational. And then he gets to the one thing that really got my attention, which was,

1:21:49 The insurance companies, the automobile insurance companies have a single database that they all reference and if you start buying from one insurance company and start hopping from one to the other to the other to get better prices. They kick you out. They'll kick you out and jack your price up. You'll never get insurance. And I said, what? And he went on about this in some detail. I'm thinking about how this works in the media because they're always advertising for customers. And I suppose you can get a lot of new customers. But the insurance company ads for like State Farm and Amazon.

1:22:25 and mutual, all these different companies. Progressive. Progressive. They're all joke commercials. They're not even serious. And it's as though they're just buying airtime the way the pharmaceutical companies do so they don't get busted for anything. And so I'm thinking about this, and so then they would go to a lunch break. And I come back, and this is really a shocker, I spent half the day on this course. I come back, the guy's not coming back, and I'm given a chit to know the guy has been arrested. That day.

1:23:04 He was arrested right there during lunch. And somebody who stayed in the room, he told me, oh yeah, they came in, a bunch of guys in plain clothes came in, cuffed him and walked him out. I'm saying, what? And so they gave me a chit to go to get a refund so I didn't pay for the course and I can go someplace else. And I always thought that was peculiar. And I've always wanted to go back and find that guy because I know where he was, you know, where he worked out of it. I never could track him down because that, but that's what this reminded me of. collusion between these insurance companies and working and again the media doesn't investigate anything and it's just a really this is the scams around us are outrageous and Excellent use of the the word shit. I don't think anyone knows what that is anymore

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

White Castle Fingerprint Lawsuit, Illinois Supreme Court

The Illinois Supreme Court ruled that White Castle violated privacy laws by requiring employees to provide fingerprints for paychecks without consent and sharing that data with third parties. The court established that each instance of fingerprinting constitutes a separate violation, potentially leading to a massive settlement. The hosts question the necessity of fingerprinting fast-food employees.

white castle· fingerprints· illinois supreme court· privacy· biometrics

1:23:56 Yeah, shit. I love a good shit. I did want to say about just going back previously to the Viva Fry 33 mention, I appreciate that a producer went through that trouble to do that. What was kind of disappointing though is I get a lot of messages, hey Barnes Law, Viva Frye, they mentioned no agenda, they mentioned no agenda. And like, oh that's cool, I wonder how, you know, was it in response to the whole Project Veritas? And then you get to it, it's like, oh we don't know what that means. It's a paid for mention, it's like an ad. It was a little bit, even though the intention of course is great, I appreciate it, it was disappointing, it was a letdown. They don't even know who we are.

1:24:42 They don't. This is true. I was like, oh, okay. I thought like, you know, they said, you know, hey, no agenda had the executive director on. Here's what he said. No, no. Instead it's like, uh, I don't know what ITM means. Okay. Yeah. Not that I don't appreciate the ad. Not that I don't appreciate the ad that someone put in there, but it was just, you know, when people would say that you were mentioned, you were mentioned so often, it's like one of these, like I wasn't really mentioned. No. Just, you know, someone else mentioned it? I say no. Yeah, no, exactly. All right, what else from this fabulous podcast you don't even know us are you going to talk about? What do we have? There's a couple of things, but I can push them. One of them I'll skip, but I want to... This is kind of interesting. The White Castle clip.

1:25:32 I found amusing. And they can't they can only share it with your consent. Well, White Castle was taking employees fingerprints without their consent, requiring it in order to get their paychecks and then sharing it with third parties without their consent. This is White Castle, the burger place. Yeah. Oh, my God. Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. I'll never want. I'm boycott. I'm going to burn my DVD.

1:26:11 It's not as good as Crystal. Crystal's from Chattanooga. Great little Crystal burgers. Samuel Jackson made his first thing. Good midnight run. I'm not saying they're healthy. They're not. It's Miller organic farm dot com healthy, but you know, they're burgers. But they establish Illinois Supreme Court established that each time they do it is its own violation. So White Castle is going to be writing a big pretty soon. Okay. Why do you fingerprint your employees? I don't know. Why did we have to listen to Barnes and Fry talk about it was what I want to know. Well, it was a minute and one second out of your life that you'll never get back. I know. I know, especially since they don't even know who we are. Why do we spend any more time on them? They don't love us. So here's a clip I got out of the blue. What is curry? Okay, let's see what this is. What is curry?

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Havana Syndrome Investigation, Directed Energy Weapons

A multi-year investigation by five U.S. agencies concluded that it is "very unlikely" a foreign adversary is responsible for Havana Syndrome. Catherine Herridge reports that the symptoms, which include dizziness and cognitive impairment, may be due to pre-existing conditions or environmental factors. The hosts suggest the symptoms could be the result of domestic testing or internal agency conflicts.

havana syndrome· catherine herridge· cia· fbi· directed energy weapons· neurological symptoms

1:27:15 Is this like a chat GPT question? Or what is this? What is curry? What is it? Okay. All right. And I got the answer. Curry entity. Curry entity. Curry is an entity. Where's it? And then hold on a second. Curry is an entity. It says curry is tementity. What is it? Is an entity. Who is curry is? Who is speaking? The guy, an expert on curry. Okay. All right. And then, Curry, what Tina says? Curry is a dish. Oh man. Am I supposed to be hearing douche instead of dish? Is that the idea? You've sunk into a new low, really. I can't believe...

1:28:06 Let me help you get into some good clips because I saw that you have them. So let's start with my one of my favorite topics which is of course because we know they're real directed energy weapons. We've got new findings to report on the mysterious ailment called Havana syndrome affecting US officials stationed abroad. Now it's a result of a multi-year investigation conducted by five separate agencies. Senior investigative correspondent, that's Catherine Herridge, has been following the story. There she is again. Catherine, what'd they find? CIA girl. Good morning, Gail. The agency's found that it's very unlikely the mysterious neurological symptoms known as Havana Syndrome are the result of actions by a foreign adversary. In a comprehensive review, investigators examined more than 1,500 reported cases. Symptoms range from dizziness, headaches and memory loss to cognitive impairments so severe that some victims say they can no longer work.

1:28:57 The new intelligence report concluded it's very unlikely a foreign adversary played a role. And there is no credible evidence that a foreign adversary has a weapon. The intelligence agencies also assess that symptoms were probably the result of factors that did not involve a foreign adversary, such as pre-existing conditions, conventional illnesses, and environmental factors. The Defense Department is running its own investigation and told VictimScale that work continues. Do you notice any theme in that little clip? Go ahead. Foreign. This is exactly what I thought. It's like, well it's not from foreigners, it's not the Russians, not the Chinese, but we might have done it to you. That was my takeaway. That's my takeaway. What are your clips? Let's listen to them. Number two. What? Havana Syndrome 2?

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Intelligence Agency Conflict, FBI International Show

NPR reports that many diplomats and intelligence officers are disappointed by the findings on Havana Syndrome, remaining convinced they were attacked by energy weapons. The hosts speculate on a "knockout brawl" between the FBI and CIA, noting the FBI's recent focus on the COVID lab leak. They also discuss the TV show "FBI International" as a tool to normalize the FBI's overseas operations.

npr· mark zaid· havana act· fbi international· dick wolf· cia

1:29:49 How are they responding? Well, they're very disappointed as you may expect. Wait, wait, you played that, the Harrods clip, you got that from CBS. Yeah, that was my own clip. These are the NPR clips. So let's go with Havana Syndrome 1. The US intelligence community has concluded that a foreign country was not responsible for these so-called Havana Syndrome cases involving US officials working overseas. Now this finding comes as a disappointment to U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials who believe they suffered attacks and are still dealing with serious ailments. And PIR National Security Correspondent Greg Myrie has been following this closely. He's here now. Hey, Greg. Hi, Mary Louise. So, Havana Syndrome, named that because cases were first reported in Cuba back in 2016. Does the intelligence community now believe they know what happened?

1:30:41 Well, not exactly. I think it would be more precise to say the intelligence community is pretty sure of what didn't happen in Cuba and several other countries. This report is the work of seven different U.S. intelligence agencies, and they're pretty sure that no foreign adversary like Cuba, Russia, China is responsible. Five of these seven agencies said it was highly unlikely that a foreign country was to blame. One said it was unlikely and one didn't take a position. Now the report goes on to say that there's no credible evidence that a foreign adversary even has a weapon that could have inflicted this kind of harm.

1:31:20 This goes against what many people suspected including a lot of intelligence officers and diplomats I have interviewed who suffered from Something and suffer ailments now, how are they responding? Here's here's what I don't understand. They bought these people off. They were supposed to shut up The we had the little discussed helping American victims afflicted by neurological attacks the Havana Act So creative! Helping American victims afflicted by neurological attacks was signed in October 2021. That gave employees over $180,000 each. They were bought off, they need to shut up.

1:32:12 I don't understand why this is not solved yet. Maybe not everyone took the deal or... No, I don't think... I thought... Her quoting this guy was from when these reports first came out. I think they have shut up. Hmm, interesting. But what they're doing now is they're still trying to explain it or something and they come up with this bullcrap. And this next clip which makes it even, they dig a deeper hole. How are they responding? Well, they're very disappointed as you may expect. They remain convinced they suffered an attack. They've speculated it was possibly some kind of energy weapon, maybe a microwave device. But they acknowledge they don't have proof.

1:32:51 Many recall the exact moment when they suffered a sharp piercing pain in their head which caused them to be dizzy or nauseous or suffer migraine headaches. They say they've never had these problems before and now they've had them for years. I've been in contact with two of them who didn't want to speak on the record, but I spoke with attorney Mark Zaid. He's representing more than two dozen clients and says he has had access to some of the classified information. I can at least say the U.S. government has a lot more information than what it is publicly revealing today.

1:33:32 And that is where a lot of the unanswered questions arise from. So I'll note that two intelligence officials briefed a small number of journalists on this report, but they didn't share the contents of the actual report itself because that's still classified. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Thought here. I mean, we may be witnessing an FBI-CIA knockout, brawl here. You know, we have FBI, the one saying, well, you know, it's pretty obvious COVID came from a lab. We hear CIA immediately countering that. Maybe because the CIA is the one who used directed energy weapons on our own State Department personnel, maybe the FBI is the one that's getting this back into the news.

1:34:20 It could be the age-old war. Well, this age-old war is interesting to me because of this one TV show that came out a couple years ago. Which one? And Dick Wolf came over to, I guess it was CBS, and he started these, or that, or NBC. He started this new series, instead of Law & Order, this and that, it's FBI. So he started one with FBI, it's just FBI. Right, right. Then it became FBI International. which was the second show and then the third show which was FBI, most wanted. FBI International, isn't that an oxymoron? FBI International is about the FBI, a team of FBI people that are stationed overseas and they do investigations overseas like the CIA, not even like the CIA, they're just spooks. When did FBI International, and I think this was to soften up the public to come up with the show FBI International.

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Havana Syndrome Environmental Theories, Agency Infighting

Intelligence officials suggested that some Havana Syndrome cases might be linked to faulty air conditioning or heating systems causing pressure changes. The report noted that high-level aides to Kamala Harris were among those affected. The hosts argue that the varying levels of confidence among the 17 intelligence agencies point to significant behind-the-scenes infighting and a lack of transparency.

havana syndrome· npr· ned price· kamala harris· air conditioning· intelligence

1:35:20 Hmm. FBI International is a mysterious show. Why does it exist? And when did the FBI become an international operation? And then you start seeing the FBI was brought in, I think the FBI was brought in for the Syrian gas canister attack or whatever it was, if you remember. The FBI is now, you know, they're doing the job of the CIA. So FBI International was indeed on CBS. Okay, CBS still on interesting because it hasn't been taken off. That's the CIA broadcast network I find this very distressing now well It's all pretty okay, so well listen the BBC has a pretty good rundown before we go Let's get that third clip out of the way, okay And so in a way it remains as much of a mystery as it ever was I mean if it wasn't a foreign government if no electronic weapon was used then what caused these injuries and

1:36:14 Well, the intelligence officials said the individual cases vary, but collectively they were probably pre-existing medical conditions, conventional illnesses, or environmental factors. The intelligence officials said they didn't find what they were looking for, that a foreign adversary was behind this. But they did learn a lot of things they weren't looking for. For example, a faulty air conditioning system or a heating system can cause changes to room pressure and this could cause headaches. And so as they were investigating they came across things like weapons dealers and drugs dealers near the scene. But again, nothing that linked anybody to the ailments that these US officials suffered. Still so many questions and not a lot of answers. NPR's Greg Myrie, thank you. Thank you NPR for delivering nothing. Okay, the BBC has a pretty good rundown. I guess they saw the documents about this.

1:37:13 And there's some telling information in this report from them. The victims have included intelligence officers, we haven't heard that have we? Military and State Department staff and high-level aides to government figures such as Vice President Kamala Harris. Of the seven participating agencies of which no report mentions which ones they are, Five and there's 17 I think five agreed that quote available intelligence consistently points against the involvement of US adversaries in causing reported incidents and that it is quote very unlikely

1:37:55 So, again, it wasn't any foreign, no, it wasn't anyone foreign. Levels of confidence between participating agencies, however, varied. The report noted that two agencies have moderate to high confidence in the assessment, while three have moderate confidence. Quote, one agency judges it is only unlikely a foreign adversary played a role and has only low confidence in this judgment. I'm telling you, they're zapping each other. Well, let's see. Let's look at it from that perspective. You're somebody in the agency. You're somebody you're an assistant to somebody else and you're getting out of line. Yeah, zap that bitch. And you see what happened. Then you go to somebody else. You see what happened to so-and-so? Right. They're just sleeping in their room at the hotel. Just there by themselves. Wow. An assessment like this is an assessment based on the best information available to us at any time. This is Ned Price.

1:38:57 But any new information will be factored into future assessments about the disease. Now it's a disease all of a sudden. But when you have, when you pass a bill called the Helping American Victims Afflicted by Neurological Attacks, the Havana Act, you know, when you name it that, you've pretty much concluded that it was a neurological attack. So I really think this is the, you know, we have 17 16 or 17 intelligence agencies in the intelligence community and they're duking it out. The CIA is downplaying China problems in certain regards.

1:39:38 FBI is is is hyping him up. We have the Savannah syndrome. Oh, no, you know, she and me We're not being told which agencies think it wasn't such a big deal. We're being told by others clearly well, it was probably from our own people doing that and then when you hear that it was intelligence agents and high-ranking officials of including the vice president There may be something bigger going on behind the scenes here And it's big enough for people off the record to be telling NPR, oh, you've got to do the story on this. And they get nothing out of it. So why is it even a story? It must be because they're trying to duke this out. I'd leave it at that for now. I mean, that really seems like that's what's happening. Well, there's no other explanation.

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Podcast Listening Speeds, Mental Health Impact

The hosts advocate for listening to podcasts at 1.0 speed, arguing that high-speed listening causes anxiety and makes people impatient in real-life interactions. They share listener feedback from individuals who felt more calm after switching back to normal speed. The discussion touches on how poorly produced podcasts drive users to increase playback speed to save time.

podcasting· 1.0 speed· anxiety· mental health· communication

1:40:33 That makes sense. We know these agencies are always kind of going after each other a little bit. Yeah. Not just for the money, but for the influence. Of course. Maybe the CIA is pissed off. Hey, why does FBI get an international TV series from Dick Wolf? Screw that! We want a show! Actually, now that you brought us on CBS, that makes you wonder. Yeah! And CBS did it? Yeah, why would CBS put that on the air? Maybe that's what really irked him. It's irksome enough. Hey, you guys are working for us. What are you doing here? Dick Wolf makes money. Oh yeah, he knows how to do it. Hey, quick some feedback on pod fasting. This is my plea to our listeners to not listen to podcasts at anything above the 1.0 speed.

1:41:34 And it's not about us by the way. It's about your family and the people around you who you love Love them love them by retreating to a good note a good note came in a couple of good notes What did you get from? From Andrus, I don't know I don't have it in front of me Andrus says hi gents after listening to the latest episode hearing about variable speed causing people to be short with wife and kids as well as anxiety I have changed back to 1.0 times on all. Just after one day, I can feel the difference. It's interesting. You bullied me into it and I'm grateful. We did. And then I got an explanation from Dean because I said, you know, why do you... because most people say, hey, you know what, you're right. I'm back to regular 1.0 speed on no agenda, but I still listen at high speed to other podcasts. And I said, why?

1:42:27 Why would you, is it just because I asked or what is the reason that you have these other podcasts at high speed? And the answer is very consistent. When it's done poorly, no, when it's done properly, you know, a good podcast, I listen at normal speed. But some people on these podcasts speak so slowly, I'm falling asleep in between every other word. They constantly repeat themselves, they ramble on about crap completely unrelated to the topic, or they're selling some stuff, and, you know, it's like they just don't get to the point. And my question is always the same. Why are you listening to it?

1:43:07 Why? And it's not, you know, news or deconstruction. It's, you know, it's a... This guy's gabbing. It's just people gabbing, yeah. Yeah, dipshits gabbing. It doesn't sound healthy. You know? People love podcasts. They really do, but I mean, there are people who wake up and boom, the earbuds are in, it's on high speed, so they can get all kinds of information. And meanwhile, they're scrolling on TikTok, you've got Telegram stuff to take a look at. Oh, let's follow, we gotta follow all... Telegram is so bad. There's conspiracy theories in there that I won't even touch. Like, are you crazy? I mean...

1:43:57 Anyway, I can't affect that, but I can try and save your sanity, particularly with the people around you, many who you love. You might not love your kids, but I realize there's enough evidence that you get fed up and antsy and you can't wait for someone in real life to get to the point because you're used to everything being sped up so much. It should be illegal, really. Should be illegal. Should be illegal. So I'm listening to CNBC. Oh, okay. It's kind of my beat, but yeah, what you got? It is your beat. And they're out of the blue. They give this news story. It's a 19 second clip.

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Shake Shack White Truffle Menu, CNBC Native Ad

CNBC featured a segment on Shake Shack's new limited-edition "fine dining inspired" white truffle menu. The hosts criticize the segment as a "native ad" rather than actual financial news. They express skepticism about the quality and authenticity of the truffle sauce used in a fast-food setting, noting the high cost of real white truffles.

shake shack· cnbc· white truffle· fast food· advertising

1:44:45 Native ad, it's a native ad on CNBC for Shake Shack. And Shake Shack is set to introduce a new menu item later this week. The fast food chain plans to unveil a limited edition fine dining inspired white truffle menu featuring a burger and fries with a white truffle sauce. The CEO said he hopes to have the menu in place for two to three months depending on demand. What kind of news? This isn't news. Well, it's financial news. Somebody changes their menu is not news. For the financial channel, it's like, all right, we're so desperate to get people to eat more of our crap. What can we do? I don't know, put some white crap on it. Call it truffle. Let's be honest. What would a white truffle, actual shavings of a truffle cost on a burger?

1:45:38 Well, if there were actual shavings of an actual white truffle, it'd be at least a dollar a shave. Exactly. So whatever they're pouring onto your burger, whatever white sauce, I would be wary of it. Artificial. Of course it's going to be artificial. Probably like most of the ingredients that are in the burger. No. Well, on the topic of artificial. Yes. Is it time to talk about Scott Adams? I'm sorry. I don't have any Scott Adams clips. Oh, I do but I do have information man, but I wanted to play this clip Just Kamala. Tell me what she says here and what and then check it out. Oh, where's Cam? Okay. Okay. Here we go So I want to just now do a public service announcement and I need all the leaders here to help me. Okay? Okay to check if you qualify for the ACP look at your neighbor and

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Kamala Harris ACP PSA, Internet.gov Error

Vice President Kamala Harris issued a public service announcement for the Affordable Connectivity Program (ACP), which provides $65 billion for high-speed internet access. However, Harris repeatedly directed listeners to "internet.gov," a non-existent site, instead of the correct "getinternet.gov." The hosts highlight the error and discuss the program's benefits for major ISPs like Comcast and AT&T.

kamala harris· acp· affordable connectivity program· internet.gov· broadband

1:46:37 To check if you qualify, go to getinternet.gov. To check if you qualify, go to internet.gov. Okay, so she... I don't know what the ACP is. But I can type in checkinternet.gov, which she then said something, okay, check internet. She said just internet.gov. Yeah, which, well check. There's no such site. She doesn't know what she's talking about. She's a lunatic. Checkinternet.gov is not a site. Internet.gov is not a site. What is the ACP? I think it's one of those systems where you get money back for something to do with COVID, perhaps.

1:47:23 Well, instead of just sounding like every other podcast, I've consulted the book of knowledge. ACP is Access to High-Speed Internet. This is the Affordable Connectivity Program. Oh, good. Which provides... Then obviously you'd go to internet.gov. That's right. Which provides $65 billion, billion dollars to provide internet for all. You've got to wonder if Elon Musk is getting a piece of that. It's government money. And so she said it both. She said it wrong in two cases. Let's rewind it. If you're qualified, go to getinternet.gov. That's the one. It is getinternet.gov. Yes, that is a real site.

1:48:09 To check if you qualify, go to internet.gov. That is not a real site. Get internet.gov. Claim your Affordable Connectivity Program benefit. Learn how President Biden and Vice President Harris are reducing the cost of high-speed internet and find out if you qualify to sign up. Okay, how can you qualify? Household income, Internet Service Provider's Low Income Plan or Government Assistance Program. Oh, nice. So I wonder who this goes to. T-Mobile? You know? Elon. T-Mobile, AT&T. It's gonna be someone like that. Comcast for sure. Comcast, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm. All right. So Scott Adams, he's really trying to prove a point and from what I understand, well first of all we know that he's always manipulating people, he's always doing, you know, I'm sorry, what's his term?

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Scott Adams Cancellation, Dilbert ESG Cartoons

Cartoonist Scott Adams faced widespread cancellation after making inflammatory comments about race on his YouTube show. The hosts review a critique by Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, who labeled Adams a "racist" and an "asshole." Adams reportedly claims he is playing a "long game" to expose media bias, though the hosts doubt he can maintain his influence on platforms like Rumble and Locals.

scott adams· dilbert· esg· kara swisher· scott galloway· racism

1:49:10 not influencing, it's influencing no no no no no no it's another persuasion persuasion persuasion because you know he's a he's a hypnotist a trained hypnotist he's so he believes I think he believes he could persuade people to see that the media is racist and that they're just racist against everybody and And now they're very racist against white people. Fine people. Very fine people. And to do this he set up a gambit and the gambit was, okay I'm gonna make sure that I say something really inflammatory but without the context of what I was saying it'll be just like the very fine people hoax.

1:49:51 And so what is interesting is that even though he, and he went on HOTEP and he says look I'm really a lefty, I believe in Black Lives Matter until I found out it was a grift, it was a scam, and you know they really didn't want any help from me. He's done all kinds of things throughout his, and privately apparently. So he feels that he is a lefty, which may also be some bull crap thing he's made up. And he was prognosticating, I'm going to get canceled because he wanted to get canceled to prove the point and I guess somehow, you know, retire Dilbert or move that into some incredibly profitable venture with locals. Fine. So I don't think this is unpacking the way he wanted it to.

1:50:40 And the reason why I think that is because I went to my favorite hate listen, you know, the woman who you trained yourself, but go ahead, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, to hear what their take was on Scott Adams. These are, of course, highly skilled journalists. Kara Swisher feels she is very smart, that she knows everything about everybody and that she is an actual journalist. And she should mention, trained by John C. Dvorak. in some of her podcasting mannerisms, and this must be very disappointing to Scott to hear how they hate him. I mean, hate him. Listen to this. Look, I'm of two minds on this, and the definition of intelligence, according to F. Scott Fitzgerald, is to have two kind of contrary thoughts in your mind at the same time. Just so we know, Scott Galloway is brilliant, just so you know.

1:51:40 I love this setup. Just so you know, I'm of two minds of this and that's the definition of intelligence. So I'm really intelligent and here's my opinion. Look, I'm of two minds of this and the definition of intelligence, according to F. Scott Fitzgerald, is to have two kind of contrary thoughts in your mind at the same time. And I'm sort of Look I I ultimately come down on the place that the newspaper gets to make editorial decisions That's correct We live in an age where you're off-camera behavior can impact people's perception of your on-camera work So they don't even really realize that this is was on camera or something. I don't know They're talking about Dilbert being canceled from all these newspapers And so they're trying to kind of rationalize that but don't worry. It'll get pretty pretty dark pretty soon and he is

1:52:26 Well, it's finding reasons for why, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement was wrong. And when he comes out and makes a blanket statement like black people are a hate group. He said white people shouldn't be around them and we should avoid each other. It was. I mean, have you lost it, brother? I know he's done that a lot. He goes off the deep. He's done that to me. Exact same thing. Oh, let's personalize it. He's done that to me. I mean, already they do it to her. She has no example of that. She's you know if you don't bow to to Kara Swisher You're an asshole believe me. This is how she thinks of people and these are of course the liberal intellectual elites the lies very smart But man, it's not that good Scott. It's not not the other Scott. Not you Scott You know what it's good, but you're not fucking that good and by the way you're a racist. I'm sorry It's just there's just like I don't use that term lightly, but honestly I

1:53:22 I don't use that term lightly. You go out of your way. No, he actually you know what you are? You're an asshole. That's what you know. You he does. He goes out of his way to tweak people to get a to promote reaction to make people angry. This guy goes out of his way to be an asshole. And if they if newspapers want to dump them for saying stupid things, more of it, as far as I'm concerned, they can put whoever they want in their pages. But in this instance, he is a very wealthy man. He's going to be just fine. And he has been like poking the bear here for a long, long time. He wants to and he doesn't want to have solutions. He doesn't want to talk thoughtfully about it. He wants to make kind of incendiary comments to inflame the dialogue and make it less productive. He's a bomb thrower of no use to us. Supporting Kanye. He is, by the way, he's a huge Elon fan. I know. Well, I know. He's one of those people. Elon defended him.

1:54:16 He's one of those people that will throw himself in front of anybody who says anything about Elon. I know, it's kind of sick. Your brain's been tickled, Scott Adams. I'll tell you, you got a good brain, too bad. Too bad! The natural arc of his career, and he's a brilliant animator, he's made a shit ton of money, he's had a lot of influence. He said consistently things that are not productive and even borderline hateful I don't like to use that word a lot because and it's like if you just take all of these frames of the film I think you got to take the full 35 frames of a person's life. This is the part I love. Yeah, you got to take the full 35 frames of a film. Um,

1:54:57 memo, it's 24 frames. It's 35 millimeter film, but it's 24 frames, not 35 frames. You idiot. I don't like to use that word a lot because and it's like if you just take all of these frames of a film, I think you got to take the full 35 frames of a person's life. And if on the whole they've tried to advance the rights of people and they're generally consistent and thoughtful and they fuck up okay you cut them some slack and one of the things I don't like sometimes is people say that's it one strike you're out that's not the case here I mean that must be heartbreaking to Scott Adams to hear this if he's truly a lefty and there's hatred now. I can tell you a couple things one he doesn't vote he's kind of apolitical and

1:55:47 So yeah, he probably leans. He would lean a little bit left, maybe. I'm just telling you what he said. He said this. He said it loud and clear on HOTEP. I'm a lefty. That's what he said. His words. Yeah, well, it doesn't mean he means it. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. He said, I contacted him. He says not to worry about what's going on. He's playing a long game. Yeah, that's what I thought. You think he can pull it off? No. Me neither. Did you say, hey, you can't pull it off? No, I didn't say that. He's playing a long game. I don't know. I don't know if he can pull it off or not really. But it just seems like the situation is such that it's going to be tough. And I noticed that what was

1:56:34 It was kind of annoying to me was the newspapers that cut off the Dilbert cartoon. And so I'm reading this one article and they talk about the Chronicle, the guy over here in San Francisco, the editor of the Chronicle, which is a Hearst paper, which has been dropping him left and right. But the Hearst Corporation seems to be getting very woke. And they said, oh, we canceled his article. His strip, and by the way, he's a cartoonist, not an animator like Galloway said. Yeah. He mentioned that. He's not animator. He says, you know, we cut him off because he was going off to deep end with right wing conspiracy stuff and all. And I think the example was the which is his, which are funny, his ESG cartoons. Scott did an ESG cartoon where they hire a black guy

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Hearst Corporation Woke Policies, Scott Adams Agent

The San Francisco Chronicle and other Hearst-owned papers dropped the Dilbert comic strip, citing Adams' "right-wing conspiracy" content and controversial ESG-themed cartoons. Adams' agent also terminated their relationship following the backlash. The hosts discuss the corporate pressure on agents to drop controversial clients and the shift in editorial standards at major newspaper chains.

hearst corporation· san francisco chronicle· scott adams· cartoons· agents

1:55:47 So yeah, he probably leans. He would lean a little bit left, maybe. I'm just telling you what he said. He said this. He said it loud and clear on HOTEP. I'm a lefty. That's what he said. His words. Yeah, well, it doesn't mean he means it. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. He said, I contacted him. He says not to worry about what's going on. He's playing a long game. Yeah, that's what I thought. You think he can pull it off? No. Me neither. Did you say, hey, you can't pull it off? No, I didn't say that. He's playing a long game. I don't know. I don't know if he can pull it off or not really. But it just seems like the situation is such that it's going to be tough. And I noticed that what was

1:56:34 It was kind of annoying to me was the newspapers that cut off the Dilbert cartoon. And so I'm reading this one article and they talk about the Chronicle, the guy over here in San Francisco, the editor of the Chronicle, which is a Hearst paper, which has been dropping him left and right. But the Hearst Corporation seems to be getting very woke. And they said, oh, we canceled his article. His strip, and by the way, he's a cartoonist, not an animator like Galloway said. Yeah. He mentioned that. He's not animator. He says, you know, we cut him off because he was going off to deep end with right wing conspiracy stuff and all. And I think the example was the which is his, which are funny, his ESG cartoons. Scott did an ESG cartoon where they hire a black guy

1:57:29 and he saw that the black guy identifies as white. So that screws their ESG up and so they get in another meeting in another cartoon he tries to convince the black guy well if at least can you identify as gay To get our ESG score up. So that kind of thing would annoy some editors of some organizations and I think the Chronicle would be one of them. Well, I wonder how long it will last until YouTube blows him off. Once he's off YouTube, it's gonna be hard. This is what I think he's underestimating.

1:58:10 Yes, he's really actually doesn't believe I'm he do believe I do believe he do believe that he thinks he can survive at that level on rumble and locals. Well, he can survive doing nothing for the rest of his life. I mean, I think he probably has hundreds of millions of dollars. But I just thought it was like disgraceful that his agent quit him. What? An agent? These are people with no hearts or souls? And all of a sudden they... No, no. The agents don't want to lose the other clients. That's why they have to let him go.

1:58:47 Because clients will be like, you represent Scott Adams? You're fired. No, agents are all about themselves. So that doesn't... Well, anyway, I wish him well on the long game. I'll give Kara Swisher this. All he does is manipulate people. It's always a game to him. So good luck. from Z100. Well, we'll get to watch it and you know... No, we won't. That's the problem. We won't get to watch it. Unless you got... well, we got Rumble. You only get Rumble. Rumble. All right, COVID, just a few things to keep everybody in line with what's going on. There was some testimony in Congress this past week and the

1:59:29 The head of the CDC, Walensky, she testified about the reason that COVID vaccines were put on the children's schedule. Now according to the man who literally wrote the book, Robert Kennedy Jr., the reason for this is once you get it on the schedule, then, you know, your immunity is good forever, your immunity from being sued, you don't have to have anything under emergency laws, you're in the program, you'll always get money, it's a long-term thing, it's what you want. It's what you want.

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Rochelle Walensky CDC Testimony, Pediatric Vaccine Schedule

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky testified that the COVID-19 vaccine was added to the pediatric schedule primarily to ensure coverage under the "Vaccines for Children" program for uninsured youth. Critics, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., argue the move was intended to secure permanent liability protection for manufacturers. Walensky cited 2,000 pediatric deaths as justification for the recommendation.

rochelle walensky· cdc· pediatric vaccines· jama· liability· insurance

1:58:47 Because clients will be like, you represent Scott Adams? You're fired. No, agents are all about themselves. So that doesn't... Well, anyway, I wish him well on the long game. I'll give Kara Swisher this. All he does is manipulate people. It's always a game to him. So good luck. from Z100. Well, we'll get to watch it and you know... No, we won't. That's the problem. We won't get to watch it. Unless you got... well, we got Rumble. You only get Rumble. Rumble. All right, COVID, just a few things to keep everybody in line with what's going on. There was some testimony in Congress this past week and the

1:59:29 The head of the CDC, Walensky, she testified about the reason that COVID vaccines were put on the children's schedule. Now according to the man who literally wrote the book, Robert Kennedy Jr., the reason for this is once you get it on the schedule, then, you know, your immunity is good forever, your immunity from being sued, you don't have to have anything under emergency laws, you're in the program, you'll always get money, it's a long-term thing, it's what you want. It's what you want.

2:00:08 And Walensky gives a very different explanation. So, I mean, how do you view the cost benefit of scheduling brand new bivalent booster shots for this age group? You know, considering the children are at very low risk from COVID-19, 75% of children have already caught the virus and the vaccine is known to do pretty little to prevent transmission in this age group. I'm really grateful that you asked that question so I can correct the record here so that everybody understands. First of all, we've had 2,000 pediatric deaths from COVID-19. It's the number one respiratory and infectious killer that was just published last week in JAMA. So less deadly to an 80-year-old but still deadly for a pediatric infection.

2:00:46 The important thing I think that we need to recognize is the reason that ACIP recommended and CDC put forward getting the COVID-19 vaccine on the pediatric schedule, it was only because it was the only way it could be covered in our Vaccines for Children's program. It was the only way that our uninsured children would be able to have access to the vaccines. That was the reason to put it on the schedule. It can't be eligible for a Vaccines for Children's program to be available to the uninsured unless it is on that schedule. That was the reason to put it there. Thank you for allowing me to correct that. Wow. What a bunch of crap that is. Boy, she really rattled that off nicely. Thank you for letting me correct the record. Yeah.

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Cannabis Cardiovascular Risk Study, Erythritol Heart Concerns

New data presented at the American College of Cardiology suggests that daily cannabis use increases the risk of coronary artery disease by 34%. Separately, the Cleveland Clinic issued a warning about the sugar substitute erythritol, linking high blood levels of the sweetener to increased risks of heart attack and stroke. The hosts question if these studies are "hit jobs" by competing industries.

cannabis· cardiovascular disease· erythritol· sweetener· heart attack· cleveland clinic

2:01:30 And he goes, thank you. Okay. You know, the double double vax, double boosted Savannah Guthrie got COVID for the third time. During the show, she had to go home. Third time. Third COVID infection. Should you have any kind of questions about the COVID vaccine creating heart issues? You are really, really stupid if you think that has anything to do with the vaccine. Welcome back everyone. Dr. Jin joins us now with a very interesting topic that affects a lot of people. I found this interesting. One in five American adults actually uses cannabis. And new data shows that daily cannabis use is actually an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. Coronary artery disease, so clogging of the arteries. And this is an abstract, so very preliminary data that is presented at the annual meeting for the American College of Cardiology

2:02:22 It represents one of the largest and longest term studies to date. That's one of the reasons why it's important. But found that people who admitted to using daily cannabis It didn't distinguish by the way whether it was inhaled, smoked or ingested. So even if it's gummies, not just smoking, if it's gummies! But increased their risk of coronary artery disease by 34%. 34%! Even if they took into account other factors like age. and race. So there's still a lot of questions here, you know, in terms of time interval. They seem to see an increased risk with increase in use because they looked at like never users, once in a while, weekly, daily. Daily had the most risk. But I think what's really important here is that, you know, whether it's recreational or medicinal, this is here to stay. It's much more common. It's not an

2:03:17 all-or-none thing, it's completely safe versus completely dangerous. We just need more data and this study goes a long way for that. Oh we just need more data. Oh sure it's all we need. Just more data and we'll figure it out. Even if it's an edible. Now there may be some truth to the matter. That if you get really high off some edibles and you start eating Krispy Kreme donuts and yodels, yeah, okay. Now you're talking. But that's not in the study as far as I know. But here's a better one. CBS has the answer. In tonight's Health Watch, researchers from the Cleveland Clinic are sounding the alarm about a popular zero-calorie sugar substitute called erythritol.

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Microdosing Mushrooms Trend, Postpartum Mood Disorders

Dr. Jen Ashton reports on the growing trend of "moms" microdosing psilocybin mushrooms to manage anxiety and postpartum depression. The hosts suggest this trend is being framed to eventually lead people back to pharmaceutical antidepressants. They also note the rise of expensive, supervised psychedelic retreats in the Caribbean for affluent users seeking Ayahuasca or psilocybin experiences.

microdosing· psilocybin· mushrooms· dr. jen ashton· antidepressants· ayahuasca

2:03:57 In a study of more than 4,000 people, including many who had cardiovascular issues, researchers found those who had the highest levels of this artificial sweetener in their blood had a heightened risk of heart attack, stroke, and death. Researchers caution though that more study on this sweetener is still needed. So, erythritrol. By the way, I hear this, this is a big topic all of a sudden. Even Darren O'Neill was talking about it. Is this a hit job on some new sweetener from the sugar industry or NutraSweet or one of these guys? What is erythritrol? It sounds like something you'd know about. It's a type of sugar that's not digestible. And it's already been a major product for Splenda, I think, is erythritrol. Oh, is it Splenda? Okay. Oh, there you go. I don't know why they'd be doing a hit job on it, to be honest about it, because there's nothing new coming down the pike.

2:04:51 Then it's just to explain the obvious. You know, we got to have reasons. Reasons for the cardiovascular issues. Maybe. It's your gummies. Whatever it is. In general, There's a lot going on in the pharmaceutical industry and the same Dr. Jen Ashton who I just consider to be an extended mouthpiece and a promo person. This is from a couple weeks ago, I just dug it up. This is about microdosing and not anything produced by big pharma. Dr. Jen joins us now with the topic.

2:05:30 I'm actually a little surprised we're talking about even though it's such a huge trend right now. Yeah, because you know normally we don't talk about anything that's not Pfizer related. We're talking about micro dosing mushrooms. Moms across the country are using them to treat anxiety and depression. I want your medical opinion on this. And in some cases some postpartum mood disorders. It was an article that got my attention recently published in the Washington Post about this trend, this fad, but we're talking about the use of psychedelics recreationally but also therapeutically. We've talked here about it in, it's really exploding in the field of psychiatry in controlled research settings really as a way to treat or manage PTSD, extreme anxiety or major depression, but now your point is that a lot of new moms

2:06:21 are reaching for things like mushrooms or psilocybin in micro doses, but again what that micro dose is is a big question mark as a way to kind of manage mood disorders. I think it's a very interesting phenomenon. There's a lot of interesting science behind it, but it is sweeping the country in terms of its recreational use and it's very, very unregulated right now. Let's be clear, mushrooms are only legal in Oregon and Colorado. They are still illegal across the country. Yeah, they're still illegal and a lot of people in different age groups are really using these substances much more than they're using things like alcohol.

2:07:03 and cannabis. So we will definitely stay on top of it but you know obviously new moms and postpartum mood disorders is a very serious issue but we need good data to go through management and treatment options. And whether it's how safe it is and what the dose should be. Risk versus benefit that it always comes down to that. So, I found this really interesting because I agree there is a trend sweeping the nation. I haven't heard much from new moms. I think that may be just the red herring to get the conversation started to bring everybody back to where we want them, which is on antidepressants. That's where we want you new moms. Postpartum depression, you want the antidepressant drug.

2:07:46 And you want the one that picks you up from the anti-depression drug. And of course you want the stuff that will unclog your bowels from the anti-depression drug. And you want some other stuff to make sure that you still have sex drive. But it is mainly affluent women. With children teenage children children in school who are doing this and there's you can get very expensive tours to go to different, you know, like the Caribbean and you can do psilocybin or Ayahuasca, this is a big one under supervision $10,000 a trip, you know, they stay in a very high-end hotels and it's a small group. It's under supervision and

2:08:28 It's something is going on with this which they're not they're identifying it incorrectly about new moms But this is a real thing and I hear a lot about it. Well, this isn't again. I'm getting more deja vu out of this. Mm-hmm because in 2017 This was actually a topic in the spinoff from The Good Wife show. And it was on TV, and this is where I was getting, that's the sitcom that was shown on one of the spinoff channels like CBS Plus or NBC Plus, one of those bullshit operations. And they were talking about it there, because the lead actress was microdosing, but it was at the time, in 2017, it was LSD.

2:09:15 that they were microdosing on. So this is not a new story really, they're just reintroducing it for some reason. Well, no one's doing LSD, DM specifically ayahuasca and psilocybin. I remember in 2017 they were talking about microdosing LSD. Oh, I'm sure then, but I don't know man, I think people are searching, they're searching for something. They're not getting what they want. They're just because they don't listen to the right podcast. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the chit. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Social, Mastodon Resource Management

The hosts discuss the current state of the No Agenda Social community on Mastodon, noting that some users have become "unhinged." They emphasize the importance of using the block and mute functions rather than engaging in conflict. Technical challenges regarding disk space and bandwidth are mentioned, with a call for users to be mindful of the resources required to run the instance.

no agenda social· mastodon· aaron· dms· blocking· bandwidth

2:10:00 In the morning to you Mr. Adam McCurl, ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, in the morning to all the trolls in the troll room who have been hanging out, handing me one-liners, doing what trolls do. You can be a troll. It's very easy your qualifications are just live under a bridge be ugly and then call yourself a troll You're good to go. You can go to troll room dot IO or if you prefer leave the legacy podcast apps behind Get one of the swanky new ones that compatible with all your podcasts. You can export your podcast list import it into a new one You can find that at podcast apps.com

2:10:38 The No Agenda Show currently recommends Podcast Addict and Podverse because when we go live you'll be reminded with the bat signal, this is where you get all your podcasts. And now you can go straight into our live troll room with the troll room with the stream, everything right there in front of your nose. And some of the trolls are doing that right now. Let's see how many we have. Hello trolls, let me see. We have today currently 1812. 1812 seems kind of on par for a Thursday, am I right? I'd like to see 19. All right, well, I don't know what happened to you trolls. You should bring in some more trolls who'd like to see 19. That's the word, the official word.

2:11:20 Of course many of these trolls you can also find or reach or follow on noagendasocial.com which I also will say is getting a little rowdy. You know people are a little unhinged. Have you seen any of this behavior on noagendasocial.com? Not to any new extreme. I've blocked so many people. You should have blocked. Yeah, and I think that because people are leaving like, well, someone said something offensive. Why don't you just block them? That's good. And by the way, stop DMing me. I do not respond to DMs on noagendasocial.com.

2:12:06 Well, you know I said this myself. I just don't notice them because they don't have a little flag. There's no flag I don't know a DM came in very hard to see that it's it's a little yeah Then I click on it by accident or on accident as the Millennials would say so I click on it on accident boom There's a bunch of DMS it all backed up. Yeah, do not DM us if you got something to say say it in public. Oh You can DM me if you want. I'm not that picky. But you might not hear from me for months. It's at John C. Dvorak. You can DM him as much as you want. But you might not hear from me for months. Yeah, I'm not gonna respond at all. If you got something to say, say it out in the open. It's like, now I don't like what's happening here. I'm just gonna get out of my DM. I got no time for that. Block. Mute. Mute's a good one too. Mute. Block.

2:13:01 Do that. Don't go to the main timeline if you're afraid of stuff, you get triggered by stuff. But there's also a lot of people just posting memes all day long. Oh my goodness. It costs a lot of disk space. People don't care. Until we have to charge them. God bless Aaron, our man. God bless him for managing that whole thing. You guys are very unthankful, ungrateful. what it takes to run that. It's crazy. Anyway, how are they unthankful? Well, they just use up resources not taking into any consideration what it takes when you make certain actions, particularly in the way Mastodon works, it just takes up tons of space and people want to have this, you know, now after two weeks your shit's deleted, we have to.

2:13:56 I mean there's terabytes and terabytes and terabytes and the bandwidth is off the hook. It's a very inefficient system. And we only have 10,000 people. Maybe we should chop it in half, do 5,000. How about that? make you in charge of picking the 5,000. I ain't got nothing to do with it. Follow us, Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com. Seriously, it is a great place to hang out, but sometimes people get a little pissed off at each other. You can just tell. The people who are listening at higher speeds to the podcast are unruly. There's something going on with them.

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

Episode 1533 Art Review, Podcast App Visibility

The hosts review the listener-submitted artwork for episode 1533, titled "Rage Bait." The winning piece by "Correct-A-Record" featured a girl holding a sign against 15-minute cities and 1.5-speed podcasts. They provide feedback to artists about making designs more readable on small smartphone screens, noting that intricate details are often lost in podcast apps.

no agenda art· 15-minute cities· correct-a-record· podcast apps· graphic design

2:14:36 Let's thank the artists for episode 1533 titled Rage Bait. I think it was perfect. Oh, and yes, I remember this. I remember exactly why we chose this one. It's a great piece of art which was done by Correct a Record. A beautiful deepfake sign, a young multi-culti girl holding up the sign. No 15-minute cities or 1.5-speed podcasts. I thought that was very appropriate. There was something else we looked at that we liked though. There was a number of pieces that were decent. The one you wanted initially was the shift into Xi. No, that's the one you wanted. Capitalist agenda. You liked that one. I did like it. Yeah, I kind of liked it too, but it was so small. Yeah, the

2:15:25 RG thing was too small and... Well, the thing is, if you don't see the title of the art, which only shows up on noagendaartgenerator.com, then you don't know that it's like shift into G. All I saw was the 33 shift pattern. I thought that was cool. I thought it was a nice piece otherwise. What I liked were two. I liked slow agenda with the sloth. Which you hated, Tom Teneal. I didn't hate it. You said, I hate that one. You literally said, I hate that one. And No Agenda, No Merch was cute with the broken cup. I liked that one. You didn't feel much for that. Going back to the No. 1-5 by Correct-A-Record that got to win, I think there was a flaw in the piece, noticing it after the fact. Oh, do tell.

2:16:22 There's no 15-minute cities or 1.5 speed podcast. It should be 1.5x Yeah, that's okay. Good point. Good point. Well, we can we can dethrone him take it off and delete it. It's like a lot of work See what else was there a couple of Ohio things What was this? Oh yeah, Ohio is the new Paris. But you know, it's like without... People don't even know what the state Ohio looks like. I agree. I don't think the gag would go over very well.

2:17:01 Greta, I don't know whether the Greta thing was there. No, it just, it was, no. I did this piece one, it was simple, did the trick. It's, you know, someone holding up a sign and then putting some, some... It's easy to do. ...copy on the sign. It's not the most creative thing in the world, but it worked. It did, it did. We certainly appreciate it. I mean, Paul Couture's art, actual art next to it and above it, It was probably better technically, but no. Which was the graffiti spray can? I mean the problem with that, Sir Paul, is too small. It's just too small. It would look great hung up as a poster, but you know, you look at the... even if I look at it,

2:17:50 when blowed up big, when ambiguined, it's hard to read. It's a beautiful piece. You know, something deconstruction yellow. I mean, there's, you know, established 2007, which relates to the pie. It's a beautiful piece, but it's too small. We always run into this. It's so interesting that artists don't follow that or don't, I don't know, it's not landing. Could you say it maybe? Maybe you have a better way of explaining it to them. It has to be more readable. Okay. Readable on a small... just go look at podcast... I mean, I blow it up and I can't read what's on the can. Go look at a podcast app and then, you know, and see how small that image is. Yeah, especially on a phone. Very, very small. Yeah, on a phone it's gonna be very small. It's not gonna be your 5... what is it? 526?

2:18:49 It's going to be, you know, 250 or 520, it's going to be 256. That's the biggest you're going to see it. And that's what you're going to have to go off of. And that's how we look at it. NoahGenArtGenerator.com. You can follow along live if you're listening to the show or even after the fact, you can go there and just refresh and see what's going on. Or again, in one of those modern podcast apps, we have chapters with images that Dreb Scott does for us all the time. I love it a lot. It's all part of our value for value model, which we have... I'm sorry? Yeah, what look at it. I was looking at one of the tabs on my Browser and I was just irked. Well, let's do share. No Okay All right. Well, it was it show related at least no Okay, I'm saying no. Okay figures. It's all part of our value for value model, which we pioneered have been using for all

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony

A series of high-value donations are acknowledged, including a $1,000 contribution from Sir Otaku of Flower Mound, Texas. Several producers are knighted or named Dames, including Sir Enion, Sir JK in Green Bay, and Sir Lee. The hosts discuss the "value for value" model and the importance of producer support in keeping the show independent and ad-free.

sir otaku· knight· dame· donations· value for value· flower mound

2:19:47 Another tab issue no this time. I lost a note ah there it is This microphone just picks up too many of my grumblings Okay, and now it's the microphone all right. No it is you shouldn't be looking at open tabs when you're doing the show oh Flower Mound from Texas gives us $1,000 right off the bat as our first executive producer for episode 1534 and says hey John and Adam this is a little something something to help keep the show going I'd say it's more than a little something something. Who was this person from Flower Mound, Texas? Sir Otaku. Yeah. I'm sorry my spreadsheet slid over. There we go. Sir Otaku.

2:20:31 It has kept me sane for at least the last 10 years. By the way, I lost track of how much I've donated, so I'll always just have to be the Duke of Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley. I'm sure we can run a report. We should do that. Hello, back office. Well, the problem is now, well, we could, but to a point maybe. The problem is that PayPal stops keeping the tabs after three years. But don't we have, we don't keep that in some system? No, we don't do that. I mean actually Eric does have a database that might be able to pull it out of there. I would hope so. I would hope so. It's possible. I would hope so.

2:21:17 I would look up Sir Otaku. Yeah, that'd be nice. Otherwise, you know, you can still be the Duke of Northeast Texas. The Archduke is nice. He could be Archduke. That's what I'm talking about. He says that we need to get the No Agenda QSO party back on the air. QSO. And I, and this is a Ham Radio reference, I think VARAC is where I'm going next. The new hot digital mode everyone's talking about. VAR, V-A-R-A-C. I'm gonna get my rig up and running because that is almost like a social network on hand radio. That's really it looks really cool AC Stanford Adam Curry no it does not not at all no bar AC. I know asynchronous something asynchronous chat I think anyway says

2:22:03 I'm just not good at promoting all the hams that we have in our community. It's okay, we can work on that. We'll post. Let's get a thread going on Noah Jindal Social. He further would like a JCD mac and cheese and a little girl, yeah. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Hey everybody. There we go. Thank you very much sir otaku James Niemeyer and I am I er Niemeyer Niemeyer Niemeyer I think you know Niemeyer Niemeyer I was still think nine my what but I could be wrong get in Tulsa six six six dot six nine

2:22:53 It's a good donation. ITM John and Adam, I've been listening since episode 200. Wow. Encloses my current donation 666.69 plus my prior donation puts me into lofty realms of knighthood. That's a long time listening. Please done me sir, oh, Enion? Knight of the brine bovines? Sir Enion. Sir Enion. Sir Enion. Sir Enion. Sir Enion. Sir Enion. All right. NJ Sober Karma, Eggs Benedict and OJ please. That would be the round table and a sober karma is just plain I guess. You've got karma. You got it. Jason Kaiser, Green Bay, Wisconsin, 65175. And he says, greeting gents with my birthday being a palindrome 3223, nice, and also being a show day, well I took it as a sign to finish off my knighthood.

2:23:52 Nice one. I'd like to thank my brother Tim for hitting me in the mouth back in 2019 on a road trip from Florida to Wisconsin after our father got sick. Sadly, we lost our dad four days later, but that trip is still one of my fondest memories with him. Thanks, even though you're a douchebag. I still love you big brother. I would especially like to thank my smoking hot keeper, Lish. Without your support this nighting would feel empty. You lift me higher than I could ever have imagined. I love you even more, Lish. For my night name I'd like Sir JK and Green Bay Night of the Entertainment kerfuffle. At the round table some Jack Daniels single barrel and Texas barbecue. Oh, that's easy. We got that right here. Thank you for all you do to keep me sane in an insane world. Yes, we regulate your amygdala. And remember fellow producers, if you always do what you're told, you will always be told what to do.

2:24:42 Jingles! I'd like a Rub-a-Lyzer and R2-D2, Karma. Thank you sincerely. Jason, soon to be Sir JK in Green Bay, Knight of the Entertainment, the entertaining kerfuffle. India, hang out, Mike. Standby. 33, 33, 33. Rub-a-Lyzer out. You've got Karma. Dame Cece of Greensboro, Georgia. 3-6-5-11. Switcheroo? Switcheroo. This donation brings my husband and excellent strongman, Lee Rhodes, to knighthood. I'd like to give him the name Sir Lee, Knight of the Georgia Bigwood.

2:25:28 So 1534 is on his birthday, March 2nd, yay. Please credit 6507 of this donation to our friend Island Dog. It is his birthday as well. I don't know if he's on the list, but we should obviously put him on the list, Island Dog. Hold on a second. Island Dog. to Amelia Island to celebrate these two lads. Many thanks for all your hard work, no jingles, no karma, love and lit. Dame Cece. So it's Island, dog, and how old is he? No name, no age. It's just a birthday. Is today?

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Birthday Donations, Moving to Europe

Producers celebrate birthdays and life milestones with donations. Lindsay from Ontario, Oregon, donated $333 for a 33rd birthday, while Dame Jennifer of Northern Mexico contributed in honor of her son's birthday. One producer mentioned selling everything to move to Europe, prompting the hosts to ask for more details on the destination and the reasoning behind the move.

ontario· oregon· birthday· moving· europe· karma

2:26:09 Yeah, the March 2nd. Okay today. It was not on the list good catch and surly night of the big Georgia wood Yep, we got the we got the and the switcheroo there beautiful I'll do the next two so this is a this is one of my favorite donations donation notes Walkman Duke of Ohio Walkman Duke of Ohio Louisville, Ohio 333 dot 33 and the message reads hey I Hey, that's all I got. Hey, did you get anything else on that? Yeah, it looks like him. Okay, I love it. Then we have Lindsay, is this Lindsay Wilson? From Ontario, Oregon, 333 with a very long note, which there's no way we're going to read that.

2:27:03 PS sorry this note was so long. I'll read that part March 1st is my birthday. Please add me to the birthday list I turned 33 so figured it was time to donate 333 please deduce You've been deduced been listening to you two guys constantly since December 2021 when I got there the COVID, oh no! And I had some time on my hands. I would like to send a shout out to my friend Dustin who hit me in the mouth but he needs to be called out as a douchebag seeing as how he has listened to you guys longer but hasn't donated yet. And then he goes on to say, he gives us the reason why he listened, I will read that because it's a very long note. To be honest, it took me a few tries to get into this podcast, but once it clicked, well I've been listening ever since and haven't looked back. I knew this was an amazing podcast where I'd find myself chuckling out loud when hearing you guys deconstruct the media. I knew I was absolutely hooked to this show, though when I heard John C. Dvorak

2:28:00 Say the word butthole when talking about Colin Powell after he died. Wow, that's so lame talking about the dead that way. I don't think it was right after he died by the way. But that's a... just remember John, that's how you get them hooked. Call out people as buttholes. Well he continues to say I've never laughed so hard. My goodness, so it had to be some other situation. I don't remember calling Colin Powell a butthole I Don't either, but it sounds like something that could have come up. It's possible He wanted a he wanted a number of jingles the one he's sure say he and not a she oh this is what do you think? I don't know wait. What was the name again? Lindsay

2:28:54 Oh, could be. Most Lindsay's are women. Oh man, no. In fact, all the Lindsay's, I think, let me think, Lindsay Graham, yeah, woman. Who else? Lindsay... There you go. Lindsay won the full China as asshole. China is asshole! There you go. Maybe it was Donald Trump, don't just try... Do we have the... I thought there was the full one. Oh, here's the full, full one. We'll give you this one. Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! And give you a little bit of karma. Thank you very much. You've got karma. I tend to say a-hole. I know, butthole doesn't sound like you. Butthole doesn't sound like you. I agree. Dame Jennifer in San Marcos, California. Sorry to bug you. I, Dame Jennifer of Northern Mexico, just noted 333 in honor of son James' 626th birthday on March 3rd. My son introduced me over 10 years ago to your gospel. Please send James karma.

2:29:53 uh, sell us a selling everything and moving to Europe in the next few months. Thank or maybe she's selling everything. Somebody's selling everything and moving to Europe. Thank you, grassy ass. Well, whoever that is, I'd love to know why the decision to move to Europe and where in Europe. That's what is grassy ass got to do with anything? I don't know, but maybe it goes with butthole. You've got karma. Robert Barnes 333 from Murraysville, Pennsylvania just moved to Valpo, Indiana Looking forward to finding some local no agenda meetups need some moving in karma. Well if you're in, Indiana Indiana is a huge no agenda state and the indie the Indianapolis crew there. They're off the hook That's a big group. So go to no agenda meetups calm and learn where you've got karma

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Earthship in the Ozarks, Delta-8 Disclaimer

Sir Addison discusses his plan to move into an "Earthship" on 40 acres in the Ozarks. The hosts also acknowledge a "make good" donation from Kiki of the Dakotas, who offered Carolina Reaper salsa to the roundtable. A disclaimer is jokingly added regarding Delta-8 products and potential heart risks following the earlier discussion on cannabis studies.

earthship· ozarks· delta-8· kiki of the dakotas· reaper salsa· cbd

2:30:47 I'm gonna read a $500 note that came in and this is a make good that we have listed and this is a Daming for this is a an old make good for I guess you just put it off when we had our special And I checked the dates. It's fine From our 1500 show? Yeah, Kiki of the Dakotas. Dear John and Adam, yours is truly the best podcast in the universe. Your discussions are the perfect blend of thought-provoking commentary and belly laugh producing humor.

2:31:25 How incredibly and uniquely gifted you both are. Thank you for all the good you do in so many people's lives. You have to, this note has been scanned, you have to read, look at her handwriting, it's quite interesting. Would you, it's like architects. Would you please award me the title of Dame Kiki De Dakotas, no jingles, no karma, just some super hot character. Carolina Reaper salsa for the round table. If you need some, I can bring jars. I canned last summer. Oh yeah, blow your head off for the round table sharing. Thank you and love you both. Kiki. Since I don't have the money in front of me, hot Carolina Reaper what salsa? Yeah, yeah, this is Reaper peppers. I'm surprised you can can them. Don't melt the can? Yeah. Okay.

2:32:22 Well, while we're doing that then, I think there was one other make good request which I didn't understand from Sir Bradley, or Sir Robert of the Freehold, I think was that? Yeah. He said, and I remember we knighted him. We talked about his freedom seeds the 5 by 5 6 by 45 millimeter bullets the most common rifle caliber in the US I'm not sure why he why he wanted to make good, but maybe it was just to say shout out to local na 817 So there you go sir Robert of the freehold and then I have a sir Bradley. I'm not quite sure what that is insta black knight Do you have that?

2:33:08 I don't have it. Okay, I'm not sure what that is so we'll have to come circle back and let us know what that one was. Yeah, it's a black thing, you can put it off forever. You make it so easy. Sir Addison's next in Chesterfield, Missouri, 333. Thank you all for all the deconstruction media on a regular basis for your audience. You too must be supported. Your work is invaluable. Adam, I'd like to publicly thank you for professing the name of Jesus Christ in your last JRE appearance. May God continue to bless you and the keeper in your faith. As always, producers and douchebags alike can save 33% on the coupon code NOAGENDA at eebles.com and mydelta8.com, whatever those are. Well, we know what eebles are. That's the roll-on CBD.

2:34:01 Remember oh, oh yes. Yes, that's good stuff and then my delta 8.com. That's that I haven't seen that one That's basically one molecule over from THC, but as yet sold legally because it's not something like that. Oh No jingles just a bit of house karma as my wife and I are hoping to move into an earth ship situated 40 acres in the beautiful Ozarks An Earthship in the Ozarks in the coming months. Good area. God willing. Signing off for now, Sir Addison, CEO of Shitposts. He's at the General on noagendasocial.com. This is very interesting. The Earthship. I'd like to know more about your Earthship or send pictures. That sounds cool. You've got karma. And of course, a disclaimer that mydelta8.com might cause heart attacks.

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Flight Simulator Experience, Navy T-45 Jet

One of the hosts describes a recent experience flying a Navy T-45 jet simulator at the Naval Air Base in Corpus Christi. The high-tech simulator featured a 270-degree screen and realistic cockpit feedback. Despite being a licensed pilot, the host struggled to land on a virtual aircraft carrier, highlighting the difficulty of naval aviation.

navy· flight simulator· t-45· corpus christi· nasa ames· aircraft carrier

2:34:56 Gareth Fathery, Gareth Fathery from River Oaks, Texas. Our first associate executive producer 224.66 in honor of my late father. Keep up the good work. Thank you very much, sir. Gene, I'll pick the next one. Gene Naftulieff, Sir Gene as we know, the Duke of Texas. He's in Austin, Rove Ducks, 222. He says, I listen at 1.5 speed so sending you two-thirds of a donation. Oh, very funny, Sergine. And he sent me a note, he says, can you mention that people can catch me on the GriftCast YouTube channel as well as with Ben on Just Two Good Old Boys, which is a podcast. Both of those, I think, at least one of them airs on NoahJenderstream.com can be heard in the

2:35:42 In the troll room. Good to have you on the list, sir. Gene, thank you. If he listens at 1.5, he should donate at 1.5. Now you're talking. Dame Finger Mole in Fairview Heights, Illinois. John and Adam, I'm not broke but trying to limit spending. We are expecting a human resource in April but will continue to thank you for the sanity. My knight and I donated during the 1500 episodes. So sorry for the delay. Bye. No problem. Glad you made it. Appreciate it. Danielle Parks, Lakeville, Minnesota nuts. $200.38 birthday donation from my sister Amanda. Thanks for hitting me in the mouth. And she wanted a regular mac and cheese jingle. We got it. Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. Oops, slipped it in.

2:36:34 Gail Goldsmith in Philly, Pennsylvania. $200. You guys are the best. Thank you. And I'll read this one too. Anonymous comes in from Hollis, New Hampshire. $200. We got Liam Pellet, Pello. PLOT, Portland, Oregon. I know the name. Monthly second Saturday slave soiree donation from the slaves at Oregon Local 33 in Portland. Yes, a lot of these meetups are now gathering up donations and awarding them to someone who wins the raffle at the meetup and then that gets credited as an associate or executive producer.

2:37:17 And that's very nice, I like that. We gather monthly on the second Saturday at six o'clock at Dick's Primal Burger in Southeast Woodstock. Come one all, come one, come all for a respite from the woke revolution! And that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1533. We thank you all very much. These are credits which are forever credits. They last forever. You can use them wherever credits are recognized. Believe me, that goes up to the highest levels of show business. Look at imdb.com if you want to see that some of the heavy hitters even used and are proud of these titles. And of course, you can always put on your LinkedIn, on your resume, and if anyone questions it, if anyone ever questions it, we'd be very happy to vouch for you. Before you move to the next donations, we take it through to the 50. I want to thank Cody and Nicole Dowd.

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Associate Executive Producers, Final Donation List

The final list of associate executive producers and donors for episode 1534 is read. The hosts thank the community for their continued support over 15 years, noting that these credits are recognized on platforms like IMDb. They reiterate that the show remains free of "creepy commercial money" thanks to the direct contributions of the "No Agenda" producers.

donations· associate executive producers· value for value· credits· imdb

2:38:11 They were very kind. Cody is retiring soon. He's a flight instructor at Corpus Christi at the Naval Air Base. He invited me to go down there and fly in the sim, which I did on Monday. The Navy simulator John this was the most crazy thing I've ever done in one of them in like the big ball You know the the like three-story high ball that you get in and then it's just huge that goes up and down and back and forth No, actually, it doesn't it's It's like a 300 like a 270 degree screen. The screen is moving now. You got some feedback and stuff in the

2:38:53 In the cockpit, you know that makes it feel realistic, but it was all the screen that's moving. It's like 12 projectors It was really really cool, of course Me as a licensed pilot, I was not able to land on the aircraft carrier. Tried it four times and failed. So they wanted a de-douching. You've been de-douched. They gave us $100 in cash on the spot and douche bag for Keith and Chad who are both douche bags. Douche bag. Douche bag. Thanks guys, it was really nice. It was a big treat for me. So I got to fly in the Ames simulator, the NASA Ames simulator. They have a bunch of different programs. So I got to fly a 747 and a thing of some future plane that uses a joystick. Nice. Which I could take off and land, but they kept, they like to do stuff like this. So they put you in the 747 and they ice up the place, the whole runway, everything's ice.

2:39:56 Why not? Fly boy, you can do it! And so you give it the gas and the plane immediately skids and spins out of control into the terminal. So this was the T-45 jet that I was flying. Man, that's harder than it looks. It really is. The cool one was getting launched off the ship with a catapult. No, that'd be cool. It was very realistic. Oddly, oddly realistic. But it was fun to do. Good people. Onward with our donations above 50, which starts with Javier Vasquez in San Diego. One, two, three, four, five. One of our favorite donations. Peter Regischnig. Regis... Ah, brother. Regischnig. Regischnig.

2:40:50 Maybe in Thornton, Colorado 102.89. Baron Lattican, our buddy in Houston, Texas, $100. Jaron Vanherringen in Laguna Niguel in California, $100. Teresa Diaz in Bend, Oregon, $100. Daniel Rieckhoff in San Diego, California 100. Wes Stewart in Mesa, Arizona, 9006. Lopsided boob donation. Whoa, whoa. The nine is. Sir Kevin McLaughlin continues his trend with, from Locust, North Carolina, trying to set some record here. It's definitely going to Guinness Book of Records 8008.

2:41:33 Yeah, sir by his grace in Jacksonville, Florida 7564 and this stands for 7 hours 56 minutes and 40 seconds Which was his finishing time two years in a row in an assault on Mountain Mitchell, which he just signed up for again All right. We'll give you some travel karma at the end, sir Timothy Harwood Corvallis Oregon needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. And that's for 75 bucks. Gregory Hunter in Springfield Missouri 73.73. Christopher Eisenhardt New Brownfells Texas 73.73 which is a promotion from last show. Allen Fletcher Rio Vista Arizona 70.

2:42:14 Shady Lane in Shady Lane says Shady Lane in Clinton, Utah. Sixty nine sixty nine birthday on the list. Henry Cucuzoli in Livonia, Michigan, on the list for birthday. Sixty nine sixty nine. Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana. Fifty six. So to Sir Michael Janczak in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin, 6006. Jamie Buell in Vista, California, 6006. Linda Terry Dominelli, Clifton Park, New York, 5333.

2:42:52 Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, 5001, and the following people are $50 donors, good list today. And starting with Kiki of the Dakotas, who sent some money in to get us to read her Make Good note, which we did already, and she's in Mandan, North Dakota. Kim Winship in Rancho Santa Fe. Eric Garland in Ocala, Florida. Chris Goodman in Leander, Texas. Julie Mendez, Minadeo in Costa Mesa, Jill Woods in Ocean Grove in New Jersey, Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado, Amy Zipkin in Greensboro, Georgia, Claire Thornhill in Toronto, Ontario, Danielle First in Kaukauna, Wisconsin. And I'll get a note about how to pronounce that correctly, I'm sure.

2:43:48 Dotted Mind in Lincoln, UK. Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado. Justin Heiner in Vine Grove, Kentucky. Sonny Pang in Lee, UK. UK people. Herbert Hess in Spring, Texas. Naomi Yates in Bellevue, Colorado. She is a first owner, let's give her a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Kyle Mann in Cincinnati, Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati, Richard Gardner, Sir Richard Gardner, New York City, Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina, Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon, Brent Chicky in Lake Worth, Florida, Kelsey Lavigno in Milwaukee. Pro Flooring LLC in Veracqua, Wisconsin. Get your flooring, Pro Flooring.

2:44:48 Ryan Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama, Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. And last but not least, our buddy Aichi Kitagawa, who I believe is a baron by now in San Francisco, California. I want to thank all these people for contributing to this show and making it work. For those who wanted it, we have some goat karma ready to roll for you. You've got karma. Remember you can support us at our website. It's not that hard to remember. devolrac.org.slash.na. Value for value people. No creepy commercial commercials, no advertising, no creepy commercial money, anything like that. It's all you. It's always been you for more than 15 years. We're very proud of that. The No Agenda Show, the best podcasting universe.

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Producer Database Website

The hosts promote upcoming No Agenda meetups in Nashville, Denver, Anchorage, and the Netherlands. They also highlight a new producer-created website, NAPDB.com, which serves as an extensive database of show credits, titles, and artwork history. The segment emphasizes the strength of the producer community and the "connection is protection" mantra.

no agenda meetups· napdb.com· nashville· denver· anchorage· community

2:45:37 for you, by you, the people. Yes, the people. And of course, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for bringing us 1534. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. And we'd love to congratulate people who are celebrating. Trips Around the Sun, Lindsay Wilson turned 33 yesterday, Jack from Yankee Town celebrates today, as does Jason Kaiser, Dame Cece wishes her husband Lee Rhodes a happy birthday for today, and her friend Island Dog also a happy birthday today.

2:46:25 We did have it on the list. Dame Jennifer says her son, wishes her son James a happy birthday. He turns 26 tomorrow. Danielle Parks, her sister Amanda, celebrating tomorrow as well. Also congratulations to Che Delane, Henry Coccazzoli turning 69. And that's our list. Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. I did want to make mention of a new producer website which is really cool. It's the No Agenda Producer Database. And it is NAPDB.com. NAP, no agenda producer, DB for database.com. This is really spectacular. It shows everyone who was with their titles, when they got it, what show it was. It also includes the artists in there and has totals, how many album arts they've scored.

2:47:25 I haven't looked at the whole thing obviously because it's 15 years, but he seems to have almost everything in there. Is the CIA doing this? Who's doing this? Let me see if I can remember who did this for us. I have it up here. Now I forget his name. NAPDB.com. You're looking at it. It's really, it's quite extensive. At least it shows a real overview of value for value. I liked it a lot. I thought it was beautiful. We do have a couple of knights and a dame on deck, so I think we should roll out this. Here you go. No, I'll take that one any day. That's the pearl-handled one. I love that one.

2:48:07 Ah, Kiki, step it on up. James Niemeyer, Jason Kaiser, Lee Rhodes, all of you are about to become Knights and one Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable thanks to your support of the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more. Very proud to pronounce the K- the as Dame Kiki of the Dakotas, Sir Enion, Knight of the Brine Bovine, Sir JK in Green Bay, Knight of the Entertaining Kerfuffle, and Sir Lee, Knight of the... Georgia Big Wood. For you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. By request Eggs Benedict and OJ, Jack Daniels Single Barrel and Texas Barbecue and Hot Carolina Reaper Salsa. Along with that we've got some Ginger Ale and Gerbil Sparkling Cider and Escorts and of course

2:48:46 The requisite mud and mead which is always a crowd favorite. While you're munching on that go to noagendanation.com slash rings. Everybody can go there and take a look and you can see how handsome they are but you can't buy them. No, you only can get it by becoming a knight or a dame of the roundtable and for those you newly inducted today please Give us your address where you can send it off to along with your ring size and we appreciate your support of the NO AGENDA show. If you want to be part of a community, the NO AGENDA meetups are for you. These are completely producer organized. I was just mentioning the Indianapolis meetup. That's a huge group. Tina and I are definitely going to visit that.

2:49:32 April 17th we're going to Nashville area for the meetup that we missed because I had COVID last year and if you're looking for something today you can still get to the marching into the Golden Gulag get-together at Lincoln's Roadhouse 630 in Denver Colorado. The Schwan... Shawangunk Ridge meetup is coming up in about an hour or so, an hour and a half at Bacchus Restaurant Brewery & Billiards in New Paltz, New York. Saturday the tiny amygdalae of Anchorage for Rondi intermission, four o'clock there at Bear Paw Bar & Grill in Anchorage.

2:50:09 And also on Saturday, Operation Pizza Time at Papa's Pizza in Eugene, Oregon. Come Chill in the Veel Chill Taste-Off at Casa De Loco, Smithville, Texas. That is also on Saturday. That'll be at two o'clock. We have Making Our Own Milieu at the Cleveland Draft House, Garner, North Carolina at four o'clock. That's on Saturday and also Saturday, the No Agenda Lowlands Wageningen Economic Food Hup Wef Festival. Those guys are crazy. Four o'clock at the Stadsbrouwerij in Wageningen in Gelderland, the Netherlands. Just a lot of G's in that one is hosting it. And if you look at the list, just go over to the calendar, noagendameetups.com. We got them all the way through April and beyond. No Agenda Meetups.

2:50:56 Be a part of a community because connection is protection. NoagendaMeetups.com. You can always start one yourself. All right, I got some I do have better end of show ISOs, I think, this time. Do you have any? I have four. Oh! Well, let me play mine first then, and if you got... I only have three. So I think you may be kicking my ass on this one. This is an oldie but a goodie. I figured I'd bring it back. They could have been looking into China. Yeah, you know, just throw in a China one.

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

End of Show ISOs, AI Voice Deepfakes

The hosts select the "In Search Of" (ISO) clips for the end of the show, including a Keith Olbermann "crazy pills" clip. They experiment with an AI voice test, comparing a politician's voice to artificial generation. The discussion concludes with thoughts on the improving quality of deepfakes and the challenge of distinguishing human speech from AI in the future.

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2:50:09 And also on Saturday, Operation Pizza Time at Papa's Pizza in Eugene, Oregon. Come Chill in the Veel Chill Taste-Off at Casa De Loco, Smithville, Texas. That is also on Saturday. That'll be at two o'clock. We have Making Our Own Milieu at the Cleveland Draft House, Garner, North Carolina at four o'clock. That's on Saturday and also Saturday, the No Agenda Lowlands Wageningen Economic Food Hup Wef Festival. Those guys are crazy. Four o'clock at the Stadsbrouwerij in Wageningen in Gelderland, the Netherlands. Just a lot of G's in that one is hosting it. And if you look at the list, just go over to the calendar, noagendameetups.com. We got them all the way through April and beyond. No Agenda Meetups.

2:50:56 Be a part of a community because connection is protection. NoagendaMeetups.com. You can always start one yourself. All right, I got some I do have better end of show ISOs, I think, this time. Do you have any? I have four. Oh! Well, let me play mine first then, and if you got... I only have three. So I think you may be kicking my ass on this one. This is an oldie but a goodie. I figured I'd bring it back. They could have been looking into China. Yeah, you know, just throw in a China one.

2:51:48 This one you're all gonna die kind of like that one. It's right up in our no agenda alley and finally I feel like I'm taking crazy pills Good old Keith. Oh, that's a good one Oberman. I'll die. We don't you'd run negative things at the end like to die one I have some that are Competitive okay, and I have one that just put in here as a joke. This is and cuz it's like what oh This is the Ed Asner ISO. This is Ed Asner and you're listening to No Lies Radio. A little long.

2:52:25 It's too long. I didn't expect to be used. Hello, Poland. Hello, Poland! Our president is so brain dead. Hello, Poland. All right. Yeah. Okay, try this one. Go for a run. Most mornings, I like to go for a run. I don't know why I picked that one. Okay, try this one. Extra kick. Got an extra kick. I don't know. I think I like crazy pills. Yeah, I can't really argue against it. Okay. All right. Well then let's not argue against it. We'll use the crazy pills. I had a like a series of train crash clips. Seems like trains are the most dangerous mode of transportation these days if you've paid attention. I have an Ask Adam clip. Oh, at the end of the show. Okay. All right.

2:53:30 I have a clip, this is the Santas test. And the question I'm asking you is this DeSantis or artificial intelligence? A vicious dictator launched an unjustified, illegal and unprovoked attack on an innocent people and a sovereign country. He thought that it would be over in days. He thought the people would back down and allow for his domination. But what he underestimated was the defiance, the determination and the courage of the Ukrainian people, not just in Ukraine, It doesn't even sound like DeSantis to be honest. At the beginning it sounded like DeSantis, and then it just didn't even sound like him. What is it? It's some French politician. You tried to fake me! You tried to fake me as a failure! I'm too good. Not French, but French-Canadian. Oh, wow. He had it going for a moment there. That's what I heard. I heard him sounding good at the beginning and then he just crapped out, but

2:54:34 I'm beginning to think the best AI voices are just people that sound exactly like someone else and there's plenty of them. I got a guy the other day who heard us talk about something on the show and then he played it at high speed and he said, well, now I don't know what a deepfake is. I don't know if it's at high speed. And people are getting so confused by this, these deepfakes. I think you can tell. I think a human being who listens to other human beings in real time can detect a deepfake. I mean, you see this radio station now, AGPT Radio, so far,

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

Outro, East Palestine Ohio Song

The episode closes with a satirical song about the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, and the subsequent visits by Pete Buttigieg and Donald Trump. The lyrics touch on toxic chemicals, dioxin smoke, and the political fallout of the disaster. The hosts sign off with their traditional "adios mofos" and "hooey hooey" as the music plays out.

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2:59:47 You're gonna get used to a lot of stuff that's gonna wreck you. And let me tell you long, John, when you become a guy with a bank account, they got you. Yes, sir, sir, they got you. The first thing that happens to a guy like that, he starts wanting to go into restaurants and sit down at a table and eat salad and cupcakes and tea. The next thing the dope wants is a room. Yes sir, a room with steam heat and curtains and rugs. Before you know it, he's all softened up and he can't sleep unless he has a bed. They begin creeping up on you.

3:00:27 Trying to sell you something. They get long claws. And they get a stranglehold on you. First thing you know, you own things. Now your whole life is messed up with a lot more stuff. You get license fees and gas and oil, taxes and insurance and identification cards and bills and flat tires and dents and traffic tickets and courtrooms and lawyers and fines and a million and one other things. And what happens? You're not the free and happy guy you used to be. You gotta have money to pay for all those things. When you become a guy with a bank account, you

3:01:11 Yes, sir, they got you. You could make it look like the cafeteria at Star Wars if you want. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Star Trek. Star Wars. Star Wars? Is that Star Wars? Yeah. I thought it was Star Trek. It's Tia Next Generation. If you're thinking of that bar that's at Star Wars, that's the one that you want to refer to. That's Star Trek. Yeah. Is Star Trek Deep Space Nine? I just got in trouble for that one.

3:01:54 You know, Star Wars is the bar. Star Trek is the little place where they have their replicators. The one where they have like the three boozed ladies serving drinks. Oh my God. It'll be emails for the next three weeks. People were very, very happy that someone was just listening to them and answering their questions. Norfolk Southern Train carrying hazardous chemicals, blanketing the town with a toxic brew. and asthma symptoms in the morning. Palestine, your train's not coming through Rashes and nausea Rashes and discourage All the birds and fish born Dioxin smoke blends with the morning dew Blanketing the town with a toxic burn Oh, I've seen fire from that train We call things accidents

3:02:54 There is no accident. leaves again. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg finally visited East Palestine, Ohio Thursday. Gonna cough now him a reason if he ain't opening a plant. Five dollar check feeds me for just one day. Do they make decisions now because they don't have the money? Can they do it? My body achin', animals sick in my land. Blinding the town with a toxic road. Can't no Biden see us while he's eatin' free. Trump criticized President Biden for going to Ukraine this week. Oh, I've seen tracks with derailed trains. We call things accidents.

3:03:48 There is no accident. Will old smoke judge save her breathing in? And Oswald's symptoms in the morning? Cancel the house and we can't go horse with? Where rainbow colors paint the creek of it. Everybody is pretty disgusted with everybody. Do they make decisions now because they don't have the money and they need the money? Buttigieg's trip came a day after former President Trump visited East Palestine. The best podcast in the universe! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!