Episode 170 · Sunday, 31 January 2010

Flat Chested Women

A regulatory war on anatomy in Australia meets a high-speed rail power grab in America as banking giants JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs enter a death match.

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The Australian government faces a massive backlash as the Classification Board moves to ban depictions of women with A-cup breasts under the guise of child protection. This regulatory expansion by the Australian Sex Party's rivals coincides with new prohibitions on natural bodily functions in media, sparking calls for a nationwide revolt against the insulting physical standards. Meanwhile, the Obama administration deploys Vice President Joe Biden to Tampa to announce $8 billion in Recovery Act funding for a national high-speed rail initiative.

Economic tensions escalate as the Volcker Plan triggers an inter-bank war between JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs. Paul Volcker is positioned to dismantle the flash-trading advantages of the Goldmans, while market manipulation warnings suggest the entire system remains a rigged Ponzi scheme. In the energy sector, geophysicists at the University of Texas reveal that Haiti may sit on oil reserves larger than Venezuela, casting the current military presence in a predatory light. Domestically, Cerberus Capital Management Chairman Dan Quayle is under fire for a bloodsucking business model that extracts plasma from low-income donors for massive corporate profits.

Suspicion surrounds the death of IT guru Mike Connell as Maxim Magazine prepares an investigation into his suspicious plane crash and missing Blackberry. In Hollywood, the FBI SWAT raid on the estate of Baron Von Helding ends in a questionable suicide involving a mysterious Russian roommate. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also critique Miley Cyrus for a lackluster Today Show performance and question why Burger King is using adult baby fetishes to market the Whopper.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 170 Introduction, Steven Pelsmacher Executive Producer

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 170 of the No Agenda show on January 31, 2010, broadcasting from the Crackpot Command Center in San Francisco. They acknowledge executive producer Steven Pelsmacher, who is contributing toward a second knighthood for a colleague known as "the separator." The hosts discuss the upcoming donation segment and the milestone of reaching episode 200.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· steven pelsmacher· gitmo nation· executive producer· knighthood

00:01 Hey, I got an idea. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's January 31st, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 170. This is no agenda. Slowly running out of time on the extended stay in the minimum security containment cell and coming to you live from the Crackpot Command Center here in Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco, California. In the morning. I'm Adam Curry. Episode 170. Where has all the time gone? gone i'm john c devoe minimum minimum minimum so uh... in the morning john in the morning so uh... we're getting to a coming up by episode two hundred does it you know i used to do that until i get like eight hundred or something i get really tired of celebrating episodes nobody can celebrate to get people to donate for this special episode i have a better idea for donations for uh...

00:59 Which we'll talk about in the donation segment. Coming up later. Lock in the time. It's coming up. I know you can't wait for it. The donation segment. We do have three executive producers. Three, nice. Okay, well, I was just about to say. We want three. Our executive executive producer, the top dog, is our old buddy, Steven Pelsmacher. He is actually now contributing today to a second knighthood layaway program for his friend and colleague and who is known as the separator. Should I put him? I guess he's a wrestler. A Mexican wrestler. A Mexican wrestler with a mask. Should I put that in the show notes on behalf of the separator or? Yeah, you might as well. Okay, hold on a second.

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

Steven Pelsmacher, Associate Executive Producer David Bailey

The hosts continue praising Steven Pelsmacher for his significant financial support, comparing his potential role to a SAG Awards president's speech. They also introduce associate executive producer David Bailey, a transplant from Menlo Park, California, now residing in Flower Mound, Texas. Bailey's website and his contribution are highlighted as the hosts transition between donor acknowledgments.

steven pelsmacher· david bailey· vanderdam· netherlands· associate executive producer

02:00 in parentheses right? on behalf of the separator? he says he doesn't think he wants to he doesn't want two to the head so use the pseudonym huh okay Well, well, well, Stephen, thank you very much. I mean, Stephen has his way, way past. Stephen is carrying the show. If this were a charity, he is carrying the show. He's carrying the show. If this were a charity, this is kind of like with the SAG Awards when there's always one moment in the show where the president of the SAG Awards, you know, gets up and gets to say something for like five minutes. I mean, that's kind of where Stephen's headed, right? He gets. Yeah, no, he's going to have to stand up and say something for five minutes.

02:41 And see how easy it is. Thank you very much. Where's he from again? He's from... Vandermark. Dam. Vanderdam. He's from... Vanderdam? He's from Vanderdam, Netherlands. Vanderdam. Okay. It's a lovely town. You should visit it once. Vanderdam. Thank you. Highly appreciated. I'll tell you what that's worth to you in a moment after we do our associate executive producer. And then we got to associate executive producer David Bailey who wants to be mentioned at www.DavidBailey.com.

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Flower Mound Texas Geography, Associate Executive Producer Ilan Sheamus

A brief discussion occurs regarding the geography of Flower Mound, Texas, described as a large mound in an otherwise flat landscape near Dallas. The hosts then introduce associate executive producer Ilan Sheamus, who donated funds collected through his own website. The segment focuses on the origins of the name Flower Mound and the transition of funds from Sheamus to the show.

flower mound· texas· ilan sheamus· dallas· menlo park

03:22 And curiously enough, he is, he gave us $2.75 by the way, which we're very thankful for, he is in Flower Mound, Texas, transplant from Menlo Park, California. Curiously, I'm not sure if he's in the hospital, I've been to both Menlo Park, California and I have been to Flower Mound, Texas. What is in Flower Mound and where does that name stand? A big mound. With flowers? You know, Texas is a little on the flat side unless you're in Austin. And Flower Mound is somewhere around Dallas. And it's a big mound. I think there's a bunch of dead Indians in there or something, I don't know.

04:04 A bunch of dead Indians or something. Nice. I don't know. I don't remember. Maybe it's dead flowers. I'm not sure. But it's a big lump of land and it's like a mound. It's big. Yeah. It's their idea of a mountain. And then finally... with david bailey b a i l e y uh and then uh 256 was donated by uh now his name is elan shamus uh this is part of the money received as donations for his website which is um shamus s h e m e s dot com so he passed it on to us he's in

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

Purmerend Netherlands Billboard, Executive Producer Resume Credits

The hosts discuss the pronunciation of Ilan Sheamus's name and his location in Purmerend, Netherlands, noting the town's famous indoor riding stable and large billboards. They suggest that listeners who donate to become executive producers should list the title on their resumes to gain employment. The segment emphasizes the importance of producer contributions to the show's survival.

purmerend· netherlands· billboards· resume credits· executive producer

04:46 Permarend Netherlands. Oh, Permarend. Can you tell me how do you spell Elon? I-I-L-A-N. I-I-L-A-N. Sorry. I-L-A-N? Yeah. Elon Seamus? It's not a very Dutch name, but Permarend of course is where they have a fine writing stable. Well, maybe he's a horseman. Let me read the way he says it. He says phonetically pronounced as E-lan. Then he has Seamus, S-H-A-M dash A-S, Seamus. Seamus. Seamus. Dash A-S? A-S. I'm sorry. A-S. That's what he says. Wow. But then he has in parentheses one S only.

05:35 So how does that work? Oh, yeah. No, one S at the end so it's not sham ass. Oh, shame ass. Yeah, that's the mistake I just made. Shame ass. You know, you can always tell when you're on the A... I think it's the A9 highway. I think it's the A1 in Holland. When you're right near Permarent because there's this huge billboard on a building which is actually the indoor riding stable. And it's one of those, you know, it's probably like 50 yards long or something and they usually have the Marlboro man on it big billboard, huh? You know a lot of big billboards in Holland. Yeah, it's a big it's a big billboard place So I was driving around there. Let me just finish up. I say yeah, thank you very much to our executive producers Steven Steven Pels markers of course at the top of the list with David Bailey and Elon Sheamus

06:38 You know that you can put this on your resume. It has been known to get people work without even handing in your CV. So, but it's a real credit and of course you could always attach an mp3 file when you send off your resume with proof that you were one of the executive producers or associate executive producers of this program, No Agenda, episode 170. And of course it's a real credit because without your executive producer-ness, this show would not be a reality at all and we're already on shaky ground. Yeah, yeah, we've Yeah, yeah We are John John was over at the at the minimum security containment cell yesterday. We were bitching about that We did something good yesterday for our for listeners slash producers Yeah, we had somebody donated a couple of t-shirts from did somebody in Norway and they haven't

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

Norway Oil Wealth, Scandinavian Cultural Rivalries

The hosts discuss Norway's refusal to join the European Union and its resulting oil wealth, comparing the nation to the Saudi Arabia of the Nordic countries. They touch upon regional stereotypes, including the perceived beauty of Norwegian women and the mutual dislike between Swedes, Norwegians, and Danes. The conversation stems from a lost email regarding a t-shirt donation from a Norwegian listener.

norway· oil· scandinavia· sweden· denmark· european union

07:36 Written a better written back or mention it again. I can't find their email. I think it's a Twitter now You're blaming them. They haven't written back, but yet yet you lost their email Well, they're Norwegian they can afford to be blamed those guys are living the life of Riley over there They didn't join the EU and they've got nothing but money coming in left and right because they got all that oil. They're like the Saudi Arabia of the Nordic countries. Dicesters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. So I don't have a lot of... I admire the fact that they stumbled onto a gold mine.

08:18 You know, they always say that all the Scandinavian Nordic countries say that the prettiest girls are in Norway. Really? Yeah, the Swedes tell you this, by the way. Oh yeah, our girls are great looking but Norway, oh! Really? Yeah, a lot of other people have confirmed this. And curiously, I've been to every country in Scandinavia. I've been to Finland, I've been to Iceland, I've been everywhere but Norway. Well, there's probably a good reason for that. It's nothing to do with Norway, I guess. And I always hear that the Swedes and the Norwegians don't like the Danes.

08:56 I think nobody likes the Danes. Nobody likes the Danes. Nobody said the Danes. I like the Danes. I'm not over there. Don't say it like that. So anyway, so we have these... How many Danes have helped us out here on this show? They don't listen to us. No, that's true. No, is that true? Wait a minute. So anyway, so back to the two t-shirts. Yeah, we got a couple of t-shirts, really good looking t-shirts using one of our, one of the better artworks that we received from Paul T. And the one with the, showing us as a couple of communists. So we had Adam's

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

No Agenda T-Shirt Photo Shoot, Wasabi Finger Incident

A professional photo shoot was conducted at the command center to promote No Agenda t-shirts, featuring Adam's roommate as a model. The hosts discuss the quality of Cafe Press merchandise and the technical setup involving professional lighting and a Nikon camera. A humorous conflict is recounted regarding wasabi stains left on a keyboard after the crew ate sushi paid for by donor David Bailey.

cafe press· t-shirts· photo shoot· wasabi· sushi· nikon

09:39 Fiancee, fiancee, roommate. Roommate. Who doesn't really like the show. In fact she's been known to hate the show from time to time. But she was happy enough to model the shirt so we'll have some pictures of that for you guys. And I'm telling you these are good shots man. I'm talking like no pants, pants on the ground. Pants on the ground. True or false? They're good picks. Oh yeah, we have the stunners. Yeah, these are really awesome. And so what are we going to do? Are we going to use this for our t-shirt promotion? I don't know. We'll probably just use it for promoting the show. But if we can get that t-shirt, I may have, it could be, I think that's the same one. We could probably have that one done by Cafe Press because it's a stick on, not a silk screen. It's nice though. Yeah, but I don't want crap quality in. I don't know about Cafe Press. Well, Cafe Press has improved over the years.

10:33 I mean, okay, we'll find somebody else. Maybe we'll get another t-shirt guy out there. We had one before after looking up. But he does only silkscreen. So we had quite a crew over. It was a full-blown photo shoot. With the hair and the styling and makeup and you know John had said, oh you know I'll just use the Nikon I'll make the picture so I got like a real professional photographer. Well he happened to be there, you didn't get him. Oh yeah, yeah I called in some of the... I called in a favor. I called in a pro. Yeah exactly. And so, you know, it was like a lot of work doing this one t-shirt picture. Well, you had all the lighting that you need. Yeah, so yeah, that was cool. So John and I went out and got sushi for the whole crew. And yeah, which is appreciated. Although that sushi was paid for by, let's see, David Bailey. Yes, exactly. Just about. Without the tip. But this morning after

11:34 My roommate made my no agenda in the morning pancake. She's like, uh, who put wasabi fingers all over my keyboard? That wasn't me. What do you mean? You were the only one at that keyboard yesterday. What do you mean wasabi fingers? I don't have wasabi on my hands. Well, because you were eating sushi. Huh? Well, I was poking the keyboard with some rice balls. I know that. Tell her to take and sponge it off. Yeah, no, it's okay. She didn't want me to mention it, but I said I had to give you a crap about it.

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

Cooking Incompetence Indicators, Lasagna and Stuffing Anecdotes

Adam proposes creating an iPhone app for "No Agenda Pancake" recipes, leading to a discussion on how to identify people who cannot cook. The hosts claim that anyone bragging about their lasagna or spaghetti is likely a poor cook using boxed recipes. An anecdote is shared about bringing Stove Top stuffing in Tupperware to a family Thanksgiving and passing it off as a homemade recipe.

cooking· lasagna· spaghetti· stove top stuffing· thanksgiving· iphone app

12:13 No, so I was saying before the show there's a couple you could you were bragging about the fact that you're gonna make a video about how to make coffee or something like that no coffee pancakes and first you open the jar and then you pull out a spoon you know so this is Hold on a second I was what I said on the pre stream which you might want to check out because we usually you know play some music and stuff half an hour before the show starts when we do it live I said, everyone wants Mickey's recipe for the No Agenda Pancake, so I'm thinking why don't I do an iPhone app with some video in there on how to make it? And sell the iPhone app. Yeah, I think that's great. And that brought to mind my kind of litany about how to spot people who can't cook.

12:59 And I'm gonna give everybody this tip. This is the way you can spot people who can't cook. They tell you that they can cook, eh? And they tell you that they're particularly good at cooking either lasagna or spaghetti. Oh, how about omelets? No, no, no. This is the classic. The omelets, you know, that people can do or not do. But when they tell you this, you don't know whether they can cook or not if they tell you they can do a good omelet. But if somebody tells you that they cook the world's greatest lasagna or spaghetti, I can assure you they cannot cook. However, lasagna, to do a real good lasagna is not trivial. So I wonder why people would take that as the blatant lie.

13:43 because they can't cook and so they go and they buy that box of golden grain lasagna noodles and it's got a recipe on the back which is pretty good and they follow it and it actually is edible. That's actually what I used to do with Thanksgiving with my family up at Mead Road, Uncle Don's place. You know, everyone, you know, it's like that big family Thanksgiving and they, you know, people coming in from all over the country and all over the world and bringing in their famous this and their famous that. And there's a cousin Vinny's this and, and, and cousin Allison's that. And I'm like, I feel like such a douche. So I'd always bring in my famous stuffing, which was basically stove top in Tupperware box. And they all loved it. Oh, how did you make this? You must give me the recipe.

14:32 Sure. Anyway, let's get this show underway, John. I'm sorry. And now, back to real news. Why don't we just do all real news someday? Well, it's not hard to fill up the show with all real news. I think the one that is real news yet at the same time is just very disturbing is the new censorship rules in Australia. God this is this is really I mean this is some of the what is wrong with that country This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life And this is just a continuation of the crap the Australians have have to put up with with this government of theirs And I don't know and they were tough down there as you know as I don't think they're paying attention They're all out there in the out in the outback back in the utes which is a

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

Australia Internet Censorship, Small Breast Smut Reclassification

The Australian government is proposing a massive internet filter and new reclassifications for prohibited content. The Australian Classification Board reportedly plans to ban depictions of women with A-cup breasts or smaller, citing concerns that they could be mistaken for children. The Australian Sex Party is noted as the primary political group fighting against these anti-sex regulations.

australia· censorship· internet filter· australian classification board· australian sex party

13:43 because they can't cook and so they go and they buy that box of golden grain lasagna noodles and it's got a recipe on the back which is pretty good and they follow it and it actually is edible. That's actually what I used to do with Thanksgiving with my family up at Mead Road, Uncle Don's place. You know, everyone, you know, it's like that big family Thanksgiving and they, you know, people coming in from all over the country and all over the world and bringing in their famous this and their famous that. And there's a cousin Vinny's this and, and, and cousin Allison's that. And I'm like, I feel like such a douche. So I'd always bring in my famous stuffing, which was basically stove top in Tupperware box. And they all loved it. Oh, how did you make this? You must give me the recipe.

14:32 Sure. Anyway, let's get this show underway, John. I'm sorry. And now, back to real news. Why don't we just do all real news someday? Well, it's not hard to fill up the show with all real news. I think the one that is real news yet at the same time is just very disturbing is the new censorship rules in Australia. God this is this is really I mean this is some of the what is wrong with that country This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life And this is just a continuation of the crap the Australians have have to put up with with this government of theirs And I don't know and they were tough down there as you know as I don't think they're paying attention They're all out there in the out in the outback back in the utes which is a

15:22 means revving up the engines on their utilities, utility cars, which is like a flatbed Toyota. Back in the Ute! Yeah, so the, it's not law yet as far as I know, but it's proposed as the Australian government is set to install the largest internet filter, it's like a big net nanny that sits between the pipe that comes down to Australia and the country. And there's now a new reclassification made by the Australian Classification Board as to what is X-rated and I guess therefore illegal. And so what's going to be banned as seen as massive smut is women with an A-cup or smaller breast size, so basically very small breasts or flat-chested,

16:20 as that could be misconstrued with child pornography. Do I have that right? Yep. Is that something? Well, it comes along with another one which we didn't talk about yesterday when you were over at the command center. I found another one of these crazy... actually it's the Australian sex party who of course are fighting this. They have a very interesting platform. They have a very simple formula. Go after anything that's anti-sex, which I like. Now let's get the job done. So what is also... there's two additional things that are being reclassified. One is golden showers.

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

Female Ejaculation Ban, Australian Bodily Function Regulations

Further details on Australian censorship reveal that golden showers and female ejaculation are being reclassified as illegal smut. The hosts criticize the government for outlawing natural bodily functions and excoriating women for their natural physical traits. They call for the "flat-chested women of Australia" to unite and revolt against the insulting new standards.

australia· golden showers· female ejaculation· smut· bodily functions

17:04 which is the practice of urination during sex. So that is now going to be seen as complete smut, outlawed, and I guess therefore illegal. But along with that, also included is female ejaculation. And... That's illegal? That is... Hey, don't do that! Hey, lady, stop that! What are you doing? You're gonna go to jail. And so as I was reading through this, the first thing I'm thinking is, you know, how ludicrous, how crazy has the world become? And by the way, that's happening in Australia today, it can happen in your town tomorrow. How crazy is it that the simplest of bodily functions are being deemed completely, you know, outlawed, smut, illegal? And then I thought to myself, you know,

17:58 It's amazing that in this day and age, with a female body function such as female ejaculation, most people don't even know about that. It's a rather rare phenomenon. Not on the websites I've looked at. Hey, get off the internet and do your real work. No, seriously. How can you ban that? And I don't know if it's that rare, John. I really don't. Well... I really don't. And it's rare because women don't know they can act... I think every woman can do this. Maybe. Whatever the case is, these Australians have got to screw loose. But I think even more offensive is the fact that some woman, I mean there's a lot of women out there always saying, well should I get implants, you know, I'm kind of flat, but they're attractive and they're fine the way they are and they're not built for big breasts.

18:49 And now they're being excoriated for just being their natural selves. I mean, it's not bad enough for small-topped women to have to go through life worried about the fact no one's staring at them. Now you're illegal! illegal. I mean this is insulting. I think these flat-chested women of Australia unite. I mean come on. They've got a revolt against this. This is just an outrage. We've got to help them with some kind of slogan. Yes, let's come up with a slogan. I'm flat not taking your crap. Something like that, you know. Yeah, nice trying to rhyme. Well, we don't like it and we have a formula against it. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. You know what we could also do, John, is, you know, we could just start the men of Australia could start walking around without, you know, without t-shirts on, without shirts on, with little rings drawn around our nipples.

CHAPTER 10 / 51 Discussion

Trojan Ecstasy Condom Commercials, Sexual Lubricant Marketing

The hosts critique the aggressive marketing of sexual products on cable networks like FX, specifically focusing on a commercial for Trojan Ecstasy condoms. They question the chemical composition of lubricants that claim to heighten pleasure specifically for men or women. A joke is made regarding "Monsanto boobs" and the potential for corporate involvement in human biology.

trojan· ecstasy condoms· ky jelly· monsanto· advertising· fx network

19:51 They could use some of the bad guys. They probably have bigger breasts than the girls. Yeah, it's crazy though. It's just crazy What else the world become up and what's happened? I'm watching television last night. We're watching we were watching FX HD watching two movies and every other commercial is for for lube Yeah, or worse play my commercial that I have there. Well, hold on. What do you have? You got a commercial? Yeah. Oh, no, I see it. I see it. What is this you sold us? Condoms. It feels like nothing's there. That's the whole idea. This is new Trojan Ecstasy. A totally new fit, plus his side, her side lubrication to feel so much pleasure. It changes everything that I feel about condoms. Is that bad? No. I guess it's... Awesome. Awesome. Did you take debit? Trojan, America's trusted number one condom brand introduces new Ecstasy. You can't wait to get it on. I'll start the car. Go. Go. Go to trojancondoms.com to save up to $5 and to learn more about Trojan Ecstasy condoms.

20:50 And you know and it's not even it's like in just get a room inside outside Yeah, so if you wear it the wrong way around then you're gonna get female pleasure is that? If you screw it up you put it on wrong if the whole thing is stupid in this commercial They had these this couple running in to the pharmacy wondering what it was that they just did because they're too stupid to read the box and And then the person behind the counter, not embarrassed in the least, is explaining it to them. And then they're panting and looking at each other. And then she, as she's buying these condoms, she's telling her boyfriend, husband, whatever the hell he is, go, go, go, start the car. I'm gonna be coming out on the run. I'll be jumping through the window as you drive by. Oh man. Give me a break. So it's that. And what is the loop? KY, KY, it's like,

21:39 And the whole thing, just like this, is called ecstasy because apparently we don't know how to have fun and... boning each other anymore. We've got to have special coated stuff. Who knows what's in there, by the way? What chemical is there, John? What chemical that you can separate for the male organ and the female organ that can heighten your pleasure and is designed specifically for the man or for the woman? What chemical could this be? Caffeine. Really? No. I think you're going to buy it. No, but seriously, what? I mean, they said, look, it's they can't lie in these ads.

22:19 They say that you know it's like oh, you're the man. Oh, you're the Leo. You're awesome. Oh, that was great, baby We would have had no fun if it weren't for that oily Crap you put on my dick goo goo. It wouldn't have been any good without that What is wrong with people now we've forgotten how to have fun having sex well you they have in Australia yeah uh... the chat room just uh... pointed out correctly that this is obviously a plot by the women of australia monsanto boobs genetically modified monsanto doesn't make boobs not yet not yet my friend they make everything else we put in our body so why not they might as well well it does seem like maybe a boob uh... a boob lobby was in charge of that one the boob lobby

CHAPTER 11 / 51 Discussion

Miss America Swimsuit Competition, Backstage Commentary

A clip from the Miss America pageant features a backstage announcer encouraging a contestant from Oregon to "rip off her dress" for the swimsuit competition. The hosts describe the event as sounding like a cattle show. They criticize the production quality and the weird atmosphere of the televised pageant.

miss america· swimsuit competition· tbs· pageant· oregon

23:15 All right anyway. I have spoken to Mickey about it, and she's completely down with it We got to go to Australia man, and John you're coming right you're gonna come what come with I need to go to Australia anyway So I got another one here. It was while you were watching that crap on FX crap You can you can play what I was watching which is a the clip swimsuit Damn! I can't believe I missed it! Foiled to get- Mickey must have known. That's why she put on some- like, we watched Superbad. Instead of the swim- the swimsuit competition. Is that- is that what it is? Is that what I missed? Yeah, well, this is a part of it. Oh, let's listen. ...really happy about it. Alright, now come on, she's gotta get Chips! She's gotta get Chips! Don't run away! Alright, hold on, watch your step! Watch your step- watch that cord! Alright, alright, Cece.

24:08 You got to rip off this dress rip off the dress and get into that bathing suit and by the way everybody she looks amazing in a swimsuit What is this John? This is the backstage Activities during the Miss America competition It could have sounded more like a cattle show. It was ridiculous. Some girl from, I guess, Oregon, the girls voted her in as the extra person to get to go to the swimsuit competition. And this guy rushed her off the stage with all this, you know, this kind of cute patter about ripping off her dress and the rest of it. I was kind of a kind of weird. I couldn't watch. This is the worst Miss America I've ever seen. Wait a minute. So first of all, what channel was this on?

CHAPTER 12 / 51 Discussion

Rush Limbaugh Miss America Judge, Pageant Rating Decline

Rush Limbaugh served as a judge for the Miss America pageant, which the hosts suggest was a move to boost declining ratings. They note that viewership dropped from 26.5 million in 1991 to 3.5 million in 2009. The hosts observe that the contestants appeared to be "cookie-cutter" stereotypes, looking nearly identical in their physical appearance and styling.

rush limbaugh· miss america· ratings· cable television· stereotypes

24:59 I think it was on TBS or something like that. So it's like basic cable essentially. Yeah, basic cable. And who were the judges for this fine? Rush Limbaugh was one of them. What? Yeah. That's all he talked about all week, by the way, on his show. He was basically bragging about being the candy man for the Miss America pageant. Then he had a back-end deal. Hold on a second. Ratings... It's Miss America, you said? Yeah. I bet the ratings were off the hook. Well, that's why you knew about it, of course. No, I actually caught it by accident.

25:39 And I caught it just as this scene was unfolding with this idiot rushing the girl off and telling her to rip off her dress. I couldn't resist recording it. But anyway, so I started watching the thing at the swimsuit competition. They already eliminated most of the women. I think there were like 14 or 15 left and they were coming out in the swimsuits. I have never, I've not, I mean, I don't watch these things routinely, but I've watched enough of them over the years to say that I have never seen anything like this in my life. Each and I and anybody who saw this can agree will agree with me except for the two blondes there were two blondes and all the rest were brunettes with the exact same hairdo more or less and Every single one of these girls and I swear anyone who's in the chatroom saw this will have to agree with me Each of these girls look like each other's twin. They had the same body. They had the same face They had the same legs. They had the same waist. They had the same top and

26:34 I mean it was like one would come out one after the other was like was isn't that didn't I just see this girl boom boom boom I mean I've never seen a cookie cutter event like this whoever was in charge of it reminds me of those guys who do casting on TV shows and they just happen to like one type of woman for example and every actress on the show looks exactly the same you can't tell who's who's who right well I don't I don't have the overnight scene yet but In 1991 the show was bringing in 26.5 million viewers, in 2009 last year's show only 3.5 million viewers. So the franchise has obviously eroded. Well they shifted to cable, I think that hurt them. Of course that hurts, but that's what, I mean why else bring Rush Limbaugh unless you're gonna give the guy a back-end deal, pun intended.

27:25 and have him talk about it all week. Who else was a judge? What other scumbag was on this? I don't remember. Any guy who is a judge on this show deserves two to the head. It is the most demeaning thing to women ever. Well, in this case it was the most demeaning thing to one particular stereotype woman because I've never seen anything like it. I mean, it was like a bunch of identical twins. It was astonishing. By the way, John, if they ever ask us, we're totally doing it. Oh, yeah, absolutely. In a heartbeat. And they always, they make the guys, they make the judges on all these things look like douches anyway, because they, you know, they introduce them and they're shooting them from way above. So they're shooting down on them and they're down in an audience with, they're usually surrounded by a bunch of creepy people. It's just pretty funny. But anyway, I only, I couldn't watch much of it because it was like, what's the point?

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Bill Moyers AFL-CIO Interview, Jobs Jobs Jobs Montage

PBS host Bill Moyers interviewed the head of the AFL-CIO regarding the Massachusetts Senate race and the economic focus on employment. The segment features a montage from The Colbert Report mocking the repetitive use of the phrase "jobs, jobs, jobs" by politicians. The hosts claim they were the first to highlight this rhetorical trend following a Nancy Pelosi speech.

bill moyers· afl-cio· stephen colbert· nancy pelosi· massachusetts election

28:22 Well, for you, coming from you, that's quite a bit. It is, no seriously, I mean, if it was, I don't know what to tell you, it just was a piece of crap. Alright, let's get into something else here. I'm kind of done with that. Oh, I got one then. Alright. Play the AFL-CIO. Wait, wait, stop, stop. Let me set it up. This is Moyers interviewing the head of the AFL-CIO about current events. Okay, now first of all we have to say, because you know there are new listeners to this program all the time. Bill Moyers, you know this is the mistake that these talk radio guys make. You know you feel like you're not a part of the program because you don't know who the hell these guys are talking about. Bill Moyers is a PBS

29:06 News communist he's a communist. There you go. Thank you for helping me out Bill Moyers is a communist and who is he talking to he's talking to the head of the AFL-CIO about the Massachusetts election is the AFL-CIO. Yeah, well, come on everyone knows No, no, not everyone labor and whatever the CIO used to mean it's a labor union Yeah, so it's the it's the uber labor union. Okay, the communist and the labor is a part of it. Okay, you ready now? Yeah, hit it. In the Massachusetts Senate race? It was a wake-up call and we were predicting that. We said, look, they're angry, they're frustrated, and if you're not on the side of creating jobs, jobs, jobs... Oh, wait, oh no, no, wait, I've got a better one than that. From the Col- You beat me? Yes, from the Colbert report. About one thing.

29:55 I think it's all about jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Main thing here, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs. Apparently, Stephen Colbert or his writers listened to this program because they finally put together the montage of jobs, jobs, jobs. We've been doing this for how long, John? Ever since we got this one? Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. It's crazy. Yeah, I don't think anybody can predate us on this one. No way. Absolutely not. Because Pelosi, when she did that, on the next day, boom, we got it. Immediately we had it, yep. And the next one, of course, without a doubt, will be this. Ah, crap, I hate it when that blows up. Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. Shysters show up.

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Joe Biden High-Speed Rail Announcement, Tampa Recovery Act

Vice President Joe Biden appeared in Tampa, Florida, to announce $8 billion in Recovery Act funding for high-speed rail development. The plan involves 13 travel corridors across 31 states. The hosts speculate that the funding will accelerate construction projects near the "minimum security containment cell" in San Francisco, which is slated to be a rail stop.

joe biden· high-speed rail· recovery act· tampa· florida· stimulus

30:49 Nice yeah, I like it. Well on the job tip if you want to do a little bit longer clip It's very obvious to me it all fell into place when I was watching the vice president speak in Tampa, Florida And actually he's the opening act now for Obama, but really like like like a comedian who warms up the audience and and it's kind of a long clip but it's maybe... Joe Biden? Joe Biden, yes. It may be worth listening to it because essentially what is taking place is there is a... it's not even a switch because we know that this has been planned for a long long time and now all of the airport security and everything makes so much sense. It looks like we are going... there's a throwback to the days of I guess it's FDR and the

31:39 interstate highway program is this presidency will be the presidency of the high-speed rail and there's all kinds of tie-ins and connections that are just like when you hear you go oh of course and I just want to play a little bit of O'Biden in in Tampa as the warming up act for President Obama. By the way I think they were all pretty much pro-O'Biden in the room and they must have vetted them. to build this economy on that will serve not just our immediate needs, but future generations. Ideas like wind power, solar energy, a smart grid, broadband. And high speed rail. And that's what we're here today.

32:35 I wonder how much GE's got to do with this high-speed rail. Hold on a second, something's messed up. Ah, my system is crap. I can't... It won't stop. So right there... Oh, now I know why Biden was on the train all the time. He was setting up to do the high-speed rail thing. So he's the authority on trains. Yeah, because he's been in one. Ever been on a real train? Today I am very familiar with rail. And today you have no idea how pleased I am to talk about the announcement that we made yesterday awarding in total

33:28 nationwide, nearly eight billion dollars from the Recovery Act. So how much do you want to bet that the work that had just stopped in front of the minimum security containment cell, because they're waiting for money to continue building this bus stop, which they have said will be a bus stop. This is the world's biggest bus stop. They have said that it will contain a stop for the high-speed rail from Los Angeles. Yep. So you watch the work crank up in a second because the $8 billion has been approved. By the way, I didn't hear any announcement of that. This has not been on the news. I had to pull this off a C-SPAN.

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National Rail Program Goals, Tampa to Orlando Corridor

The Obama administration's rail initiative aims to reduce highway congestion and carbon emissions while increasing productivity. The Tampa to Orlando route is highlighted as an initial project, with Biden describing the $8 billion as "seed money" for a larger $55 billion national program. The hosts remain skeptical of the project's long-term viability and its impact on the automobile industry.

high-speed rail· carbon emissions· tampa· orlando· seed money· transportation

34:11 So, let's just listen. Funding to move us in the direction of developing a high-speed rail service in 13 travel corridors covering 31 states all across this country. Hello? 31 states, 13 travel corridors? That's a massive undertaking. I mean, like, massive! You know where this leads to. Ladies and gentlemen, These investments these investments have several goals first to improve existing rail lines to make train service faster more liable to more liable car He said more liable. I think he said reliable Let's listen to it again to improve existing rail lines to make train service faster more liable Drinking

35:09 Two, to pull cars off the road, reducing congestion, cutting pollution and increasing productivity. What he doesn't mention of course is... to make air travel less convenient, which of course they're doing a fine job by making it so no one wants to fly anymore. It sucks. Now here we go with General Electric again. General Electric is bidding... It's coming! No, no, no, wait, wait for it. You're googling ahead of me. And three, to begin to develop new corridors for high-speed trains that will go from 169 to 230 miles an hour.

35:49 Which is pretty slow for high-speed rail. Ladies and gentlemen, Wyke and Carter, right here from Tampa to Orlando. Why? So the Disney characters can get a ride to work, I guess. The hookers from Tampa. on a train here in Orlando in less than an hour, without battling traffic and congestion, arrive at your destination. Ladies and gentlemen, this single investment

36:27 We're not going to solve all our transportation issues overnight. Instead, with more than $55 billion of proposals from 50 states all across the country, we're providing $8 billion in seed money. And today's awards provide only the initial funding for the rail system. Like Tampa to Orlando route, more funding is going to come in the future as progress is made. We have committed to another $5 billion in funding over the next five years. It's a down payment on a truly national program that's going to reshape the way we travel. It will change the way which we go from place to place, change the ways we work and live.

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Global Rail Comparisons, General Electric Locomotive Bids

General Electric is bidding to supply locomotives for Amtrak and has announced a joint venture in China for high-speed rail technology. The hosts compare the U.S. rail plan to systems in France and Japan, noting that countries like Brazil and Russia lack extensive high-speed networks. They argue that the U.S. geography is better suited for air travel than rail.

general electric· amtrak· china· brazil· france· japan

37:10 and it will connect communities to each other in a way that in the past was impossible. Just like the interstate highway structure did back in the mid-50s. It will have far-reaching consequences. Let me ask you a question. How can we, the leading nation in the world, be in a position for China, Spain, France, and name all the other countries? I love that. Name all those other places. You know, them like places of those foreigners. who have rail systems that are far superior to ours. Ladies and gentlemen, it's about time we move. But this time, but this time, we're not only going to be providing better... But you gotta wait for it. We're gonna be taking cars off of congested highways. It's like, if you got a car, it's like, isn't the auto... How much money did we put into General Motors?

37:59 Why the hell did we give him, what was it, 60 billion dollars if we're just gonna rip the car- We're running it, we own them. Yeah, we're gonna rip those off the road now. That was good. That's just admitting defeat right there. Admitting defeat! Oh, and by the way, if you're in the automobile industry, screw you! Reducing carbon emissions and saving billions of dollars in human productivity loss just sitting in traffic jams as studies point out. I contradict that. I'm sitting in traffic jams from here to like San Francisco. I'm not going to take a high speed rail. There isn't one. Bard is slower than we're sitting in traffic. This is this is incredibly dumb. You know, this country is not really designed for for rail travel. I mean, as soon as the airline showed up and everyone just jumped on that, I was like, yeah, finally we can get somewhere.

38:49 Yeah, GE is bidding to supply new passenger locomotives for Amtrak and in November announced a joint venture in China that would make high-speed rail locomotives that may add 200 US jobs. Now, a couple of things we should note. One, let's take Brazil, big, you know, the run of the new up-and-coming country supposedly. They have no trains. Zero. They got like one train old chug chugs along on the coast somewhere that moves logs. There's no trains in Brazil. Okay, so let's start there. They don't, they never adopted them. They never wanted them to use these huge, unbelievably large buses. China's got no trains. You want to go around China? I've been to China enough times cause I said, well, I think it'd be cool to take a train from Beijing to Xiamen and then you look, there's no trains. You have to fly, you know, one of the many,

39:38 multitude of little carriers that they have split off from China Air. And that's the way they get around in China. The only place that has these high speed trains, I mean, they don't have them in Canada. They don't have them anywhere in South America. They haven't got them in Russia. Russia doesn't have a lot of trains. Where do they have them? They have them in East and Western Europe period. Yeah. And it's, uh, it's mainly the French trains and Japan. Yeah, that's it. But go name all those other countries. They have some crappy trains in India. You know, that people are hanging out. They should actually turn up the heat on those. They should speed those up a little bit. That's cool. Watch people go flying off. But that's it. I mean, this is old technology. I mean, I think there's a couple of places, some corridors, and they already have high speed trains on them, even though they're not the good ones.

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Airport Security Deterrence, General Electric Media Influence

The hosts suggest that increasingly invasive airport security measures, such as naked scanners, are designed to make air travel unattractive and push travelers toward the new rail system. They point out that NBC, owned by General Electric, promotes these security fears while GE stands to profit from rail contracts. A link is provided to a report on the "Washington gravy train" of rail lobbying.

tsa· naked scanners· general electric· nbc· air travel· lobbying

40:31 running from Philadelphia to Boston to Washington DC to New York. I mean that's the only place in the country where it's practical. Even a high-speed train from Chicago to New York, which you think some people might use once in a while, is going to still take too long compared to the flight. And if the high-speed train from San Francisco to LA is... Why? Who's gonna go on it? Who wants to go to LA? Who's gonna be commuting to LA? Well, but this is where the whole fix is in, John. I mean, air travel is being made as uncomfortable as possible. You have to go through the naked scanner. You can't bring anything to drink. You gotta shut up and sit down. Don't touch your luggage. Be quiet, you stupid slave. You know, you're viewed as a terrorist before you can even, you know,

41:15 You're just viewed as a terrorist no matter what. Take off your shoes, put your shit on the belt, shut up slave, don't drink, don't eat, don't bring anything, no breast milk, which you know I need a lot of. And they're scaring you to death. It's like, oh, the guy put a box on his head and said a prayer. Oh, he could be dying. Turn the plane around. It's just nuts. So they're making that as unattractive as possible. By the way, who's hyping that up? The news media. which would include NBC which is owned by who they're owned by again? General Electric who's gonna be selling these high-speed trains who just apparently got a sweetheart billion dollar deal if you read the transportation lobby website which I

42:06 which I have linked in the show notes at noagendashow.com. You really must read this, the most recent entry, Washington's newest gravy train high-speed rail. Stimulus funds create lobbying frenzy. So there you go. The Taggart Express is coming your way. This is a fiasco. That by the way is a fine reference which you didn't get. I got it. By Ayn Rand. Do we have to have that Ayn Rand plug in at the end? I kind of like that at the end. Listen to O'Biden crank it up for the man who will bring you these jobs because that of course is this is a part of the jobs bill. This is where the money's going to build high-speed rail.

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TGV Safety Records, Gouda Station Train Collision

The safety record of the French TGV and Thales rail systems is discussed, noting that 1.2 billion passengers have traveled without a casualty. However, the hosts mention specific accidents, including a 2008 collision at Gouda Station in the Netherlands and a 1998 fatal truck strike. They anticipate that safety statistics will be a major selling point for the U.S. high-speed rail push.

tgv· thales· france· gouda station· netherlands· train safety

42:52 in the future and we're making our communities more livable all in the process. And ladies and gentlemen, it's now my pleasure to introduce the man who's leading us into this new era of innovation, the President of the United States of America. And the guy comes in like the Beatles. There's like three minutes of applause, everyone's going nuts. The man who's bringing it to you, ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones! He's awesome. Biden's a great opening act. So that makes so much sense. It really does. Everyone's in. The whole scam is set up. This is going to be a huge money loser. Yeah, it's going to take forever.

43:38 I mean, all the rails have been torn out, but some of the right-of-ways still exist. But they go through cities. High-speed rail needs its own dedicated track that doesn't have any crossings. Usually the ones in France are buried. It's one of the worst rides. I mean, it's a nice fast ride, but you get on the thing and the thing goes into a ditch. And then cranks the speed up to 300 miles an hour, whatever it hits, and then it's just, you're just flying along. But you look out the window, there's nothing but dirt, because you're in this ditch, so a cow doesn't wander onto the track. And then you finally get where you're going. It's one of the boring rides you can take, especially in Europe.

44:22 So meanwhile I was doing some research on this because we have one of our contributors, producers in Curran, New England. Curran. As in Cologne. And so I read about the Thales which is the high-speed train that runs us. That's the French outfit. The French outfit is partly owned by the TGV folks and I read that 1.2 billion passengers have did by the way this is going to come up in the conversation I guarantee it and the kid is going to be the safety because there's this 1.2 billion passengers 1.2 billion have traveled on the TGV and there has been no casualty to date.

45:04 Now, this is interesting though because they had a couple of wrecks. Let me read you this one I think you'll be interested in. Really? Yeah, there's been a couple. This one here is the one that's most fascinating. Because on 11th October 2008, a Thales PBA set bound for Amsterdam collided with a local ICM train set at the Gouda Station. Oh, I remember this actually. The Gouda Station, I think that somebody got really cheesed off about this. And it was probably a right-of-way violation. Okay. You know, you could actually do the Tonight Show with material like that. You'd be great. By the way, it's chowdah. It's chowdah? Chowdah.

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European Rail Convenience, California High-Speed Rail Challenges

While rail travel is optimized for European metro centers like Hamburg and Hanover, the hosts argue it is impractical for the California corridor between San Francisco and Los Angeles. They cite the Grapevine mountain range as a major engineering hurdle. The discussion contrasts the 15-minute frequency of German trains with the projected limitations of the American system.

germany· ice train· california· san francisco· los angeles· infrastructure

45:51 Say it with me now. Come on, howdah. It'll sound good when you order your cheese. I'd like some howdah, please. I'd like some howdah. They're very good. So you were talking about pronunciations the other day. Well, let's go back to the training. We'll go back to pronunciations later. But anyway, I thought they, uh, but anyway, so there's a wreck there and then there was a wreck in 1998 when a truck was hit by a Thales and the driver was killed, but that was it. I think it's Talas, I think is how it's pronounced actually. Yeah, it could be Talas. Talas. I have not been on TALIS. I know lots of people who have. Actually, I took the one, that's why I was bringing up Cologne because I took the TALIS from Cologne to Paris and it's a nice ride. Yeah, no but you're right. It's going to be so much better. Security is going to be better for you. But I mean, is it really better, John? Is it really better than air travel? I don't think so. I mean, it depends. I mean, for example,

46:46 If you're an American in Europe that wants to get across the country and you want to see stuff, yeah, that's a lot more interesting. And if you're a European, for example, in Hamburg going to Hanover, which is a The flight and the hassle to get in and out of the airport, even without the hassle, would be about the same amount of time as the ICE train, which is a one hour straight shot. And so you could actually commute from Hamburg to Hanover, which is not close. And so in Europe we have all these kind of metro centers all over the place, like in Germany. The train is much more convenient. There's one every 15 minutes. It's vroom vroom vroom. And the infrastructure's set up for it. The people are set up for it. The environment is set up for it. It is set up for it. It is optimized for trains. We are not.

47:44 No, I don't understand how they're going to get the rail, the high-speed rail no less from Los Angeles to San Francisco. I just don't see it. You got to go over the grapevine. It's a huge mountain. They've always known this is the big problem. There's a huge mountain range between San Francisco and Los Angeles down in LA and it snows up there. But you know what, John? All we need is some Reardon metal and it'll all work. Yeah, that's that could be that could that could be a part of the whole thing man. They got Atlas shrugged. They're plugging that again. Yeah, she's Anyway, so this trip to end the LA how many trains are they gonna run a day? One of the great things about the European trains is that you can catch a train constantly and it's like every every every 30 minutes there's and some of the stations are loaded up with trains I mean you go from here to there and jump from one to another I mean, it's an amazing

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London Congestion Tax, UK Train Affordability Crisis

In the United Kingdom, high congestion taxes discourage driving into London, but the alternative rail system has become unaffordable for many workers. The hosts discuss the removal of toilets on short-haul trains for security reasons and the high cost of monthly passes, which can exceed $650. They conclude that the system is designed to control the wallets of the population.

london· congestion tax· guilford· peak pricing· public transportation

48:35 situation. We're going to have the one crappy train to LA by the way which isn't going to go... From San Francisco to LA down the peninsula that train you're gonna catch in San Francisco is gonna loop over to Desto or Stockton to the guts of the state the flatlands and so it's gonna take you forever to get to the real main line and then it's gonna shoot down to LA somehow and Probably drop you off in the middle of nowhere. This is idiotic Well, Richard Branson should be really happy with his new airline. Extremely expensive. That's the other thing I wanted to say. In Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom, so the public transportation system, a lot of people rely on it very heavily. They discourage all of the cars coming into London with the congestion tax. Amazing. Which is, I don't know what it is now, but it's probably close to 20 bucks if you were to, thank you darling, if you would translate it into dollars. I think it's yeah, probably 18 or 19 dollars.

49:34 But then you want to take the train, it's unaffordable. It's unaffordable. And they've taken all the toilets out for safety, security reasons. What? Yeah. On the short haul stuff, they took all the toilets out. Why? It was like a huge brouhaha, we talked about it. Pregnant women were freaking out. And of course nothing happens. You're like, okay, freak out whatever you want. Just don't take the train then. They took the toilets out because you know people were abusing the privilege. What? Peeing? I don't know. I don't remember anymore. I just know they took them out. It's crazy. But the thing is it's unaffordable. My daughter used to take the train to Guilford from London and of course she has to go during the... you have a peak hour price and an off-peak price. Yeah, Long Island Railway does the same thing. And you know it was like 20 pounds a day.

50:32 So that's what, a hundred pounds for your work week? That's 400 pounds a month? People can't afford that. It's like 650 bucks. Yeah, for, and this is a pass. Just to get to and from work. Yes, and this is a pass. And of course, oh, then you travel on non-peak hours, which means, you know, you'll be late. Right, you'll be late and you have to stay, yeah, no, you have to, peak hours is there for a reason. And the service never runs on time. Now this is not good. The more I think about it, the more I'm liking that whole population control idea. I think those guys are onto something. Yeah, well these guys are on to controlling our wallets. I mean, they're just going to break us. Who would you say, John? I'm liking GE less and less as time goes by. Really?

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Dan Quayle, Cerberus Capital Management Plasma Investments

Former Vice President Dan Quayle is the Chairman of Global Investments for Cerberus Capital Management. The firm reportedly bought a plasma donation company called Talacris for $82 million and sold it for nearly $2 billion. The hosts describe the business model as "bloodsucking," involving the extraction of plasma from low-income individuals for profit.

dan quayle· cerberus capital management· talacris· plasma donation· bloodsuckers

51:21 Who would you say in American history is probably deemed the dumbest vice president? Or you can even put a president in there if you want because it's gonna be close But I'm looking for a vice presidential name. You mean somebody recently you're not talking about Millard Fillmore No, let me think Dan quayle. Yes, that would be exactly the one I'm thinking of he John is the Chairman of Global Investments for Sibiris Capital Management, which is one of the most successful financial firms to date. And they are doing amazing work. And I'm just reading about this company and I'm like, oh my God, how can this dork actually be in one of the most successful financial companies there is? I mean, we're talking like

52:21 you know, bigger than, even bigger than what Tyco was back in the day, in the 90s. You know, this is like, it's like huge. And they recently did a very interesting investment. They bought, and this is why, this is why it caught my eye. They bought this company called, I think it's Talacris for $82 million. And they just saw, and this is like six years ago, and they just sold it for almost $2 billion. Would you say that's a pretty good investment? I would think. So what does this company do? And it's unfortunate you can't see the video for the commercial because it's even funnier, but just imagine a lot of African American citizens

53:09 Sitting in chairs with tubes hooked up to their arms. So this is a plasma donation firm that literally sucks plasma out of poor people and they have a shot of an ATM with money pooping out of it.

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California Marijuana Legalization Initiative, Prison Labor Concerns

An initiative to legalize marijuana for recreational use is set for the November ballot in California after organizers collected 700,000 signatures. The hosts discuss the potential impact on the prison industrial complex, which relies on drug-related arrests for labor. They advocate for legalization while questioning how the state will replace the revenue and control mechanisms associated with prohibition.

marijuana· legalization· california· ballot initiative· prison labor

53:54 So like, hey, you know, this is a great idea. What do they call the Republicans bloodsuckers? I can get me some, I can just give up some of my plasma. It's only 95% water and you give up your plasma and of course plasma is then used for rich people who can buy it, who need it. It's unbelievable. These literally are bloodsuckers. Literally. That's a good one. Dan Quayle. Dan effing Quayle, the guy who couldn't spell potato. Yeah, well I wonder if he can spell plasma maybe I was just blown away and There's a couple of links in in the show notes that you definitely want to want to check out regarding this This fine company. I think there was someone else on the board of directors I'm always going to these websites and and the first thing I do as I go to invest This is what you really have to get into the habit of

54:50 Go to the website go to the investor resources skip past all the marketing material and look at the board of directors look at the Board of Advisors, and you'll see how it all fits together It's just a bunch of rich people bopping stuff back and forth amongst themselves plasma sucking plasma here $200 yeah Well, you know Good work if you can find it. I guess you can't make plasma, huh? There is an artificial plasma. Oh there is. Nothing like the real thing though. No, no, of course not. So I got one, there's one other thing that's going on which is kind of interesting and I don't know, this is not being

55:36 Promoted and a big national way because I think there's a big large fear But it appears as though in this next ballot the November election here in California. We will have an initiative on the ballot to legalize pot right and it's going to be interesting to see how the public reacts to that because there's good you know there I don't know you know I think I don't know where the money's gonna fall in terms of advertising, but as far as I'm concerned, they should legalize pot, but I think the whole country is freaked out about the idea because, oh, what are we gonna do for our prison labor? You know, we gotta arrest people. Yeah, if we can't arrest people for pot, well, we're gonna arrest them for what? Yeah, you know, they got to come up with something different, but maybe for having flat chests.

56:23 There you go. But anyway, why don't you play the, I got a good clip here on it. It's a little long because it talks about the legalization process, but also talks about something very funny happening in Oakland. A measure to legalize pot for recreational use will likely appear on the November ballot. Backers say that they've turned in 700,000 signatures for their initiative today, and that is nearly twice what they need to get it on the ballot. The measure would allow adults in California to have a small amount amount of pot and to grow a limited amount on their property. Local governments could then decide individually whether to legalize and tax it. If marijuana users need supplies they can go to Oakland. That's where a mega warehouse dubbed the Walmart of weed...

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iGrow Warehouse, Walmart of Weed in Oakland

A 15,000-square-foot warehouse called iGrow has opened in Oakland, marketed as the "Walmart of Weed." The store sells hydroponic supplies and offers courses on cultivation but does not sell marijuana directly. The hosts speculate that large corporations like Monsanto may eventually enter the market to provide seeds and nutrients to home growers.

igrow· oakland· hydroponics· marijuana cultivation· walmart of weed

55:36 Promoted and a big national way because I think there's a big large fear But it appears as though in this next ballot the November election here in California. We will have an initiative on the ballot to legalize pot right and it's going to be interesting to see how the public reacts to that because there's good you know there I don't know you know I think I don't know where the money's gonna fall in terms of advertising, but as far as I'm concerned, they should legalize pot, but I think the whole country is freaked out about the idea because, oh, what are we gonna do for our prison labor? You know, we gotta arrest people. Yeah, if we can't arrest people for pot, well, we're gonna arrest them for what? Yeah, you know, they got to come up with something different, but maybe for having flat chests.

56:23 There you go. But anyway, why don't you play the, I got a good clip here on it. It's a little long because it talks about the legalization process, but also talks about something very funny happening in Oakland. A measure to legalize pot for recreational use will likely appear on the November ballot. Backers say that they've turned in 700,000 signatures for their initiative today, and that is nearly twice what they need to get it on the ballot. The measure would allow adults in California to have a small amount amount of pot and to grow a limited amount on their property. Local governments could then decide individually whether to legalize and tax it. If marijuana users need supplies they can go to Oakland. That's where a mega warehouse dubbed the Walmart of weed...

57:11 Walmart of weed yeah I like it open for business tonight Robert Lyles on the high hopes for the growing venture Robert Dana mega is right behind me is 15,000 square feet of everything you need to grow marijuana and that's because the I grow warehouse store cannot sell marijuana but you wouldn't be able to tell that from the line our cameras captured just a short time ago and as you're about to see because of some big store tactics being used inside that just may lead to some mom-and-pop drug dealers. Wait a minute is this a place where you can go and grow your weed is that the whole idea? No no you buy the supplies. Oh

57:54 You know they've had these places like there's one in Berkeley. They're all over the place of course their cops watch them and They're hydroponic places they can pick up hydroponic supplies, and and it's all looks or not because they don't talk about growing weed But you go in there, and you know and everybody in there's like Steve the tech hippie Yeah, I heard that so anyway So they, but these places have all been small. This apparently place is huge. It's like a Costco. Do they sell seeds as well? No, I don't think so. Maybe. I don't know. I didn't go out and shop. You know what's next though? I mean, I can already hear the commercial. Buy your pot seeds from Monsanto. That's a possibility. Yeah, I mean, this could be a whole setup. All right.

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Marijuana Business Models, Oakland Dispensary Ordinances

Owner Dar Mann describes iGrow as a "Home Depot for marijuana," offering DIY courses on nutrients and lighting. Oakland City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan is reportedly drafting ordinances to expand the number of legal dispensaries in the city, which is currently capped at four. The hosts joke that the future of the American economy involves everyone growing and selling weed to each other.

dar mann· rebecca kaplan· oakland· dispensaries· thb· hydroponics

58:43 From the moment the ribbon was cut, people streamed through the 8-foot tall gates of iGrow, wide-eyed and ready to buy. On credit, no less. I saw on the news where they do have finance lines, so I said, wow, I better come down here and see what the new business model's about. The new business model. Here's how it works. You put the seed in the earth, you put some water on it, you grow the shit, you sell it, and then you start it from step one again. Oh, this is great. iGrow is trying to do for marijuana growers what Home Depot did for homeowners. So instead of trying to be in the closet about it, we want to talk to you about it.

59:27 Owner Dar Mann says he's offering do-it-yourself courses on the right hydroponic pans, lights and bottled nutrients for the optimal THB. There it is, the bottled nutrients. Ah, you watch it. You watch Monsanto's gonna get in on this game. Gonna put the drug dealers out of business. And apparently turn NASCAR dads into their own growers. Shoppers with medicinal marijuana cards admit growing Growing in the basement could lead to selling their crops to dispensaries. Dispensary owners tried to downplay that fact. You should only grow a little bit in your own house. But obviously not everyone's going to heed that. I mean, a lot of money can be made selling it to dispensaries or selling it in other ways. This is great, John. The future of America is basically we all we all grow weed. We all sell it to each other. We get completely hammered and then get on the train.

1:00:15 Exactly, because we don't want to get to the airport. Too much work. Too much work to go to the airport. Dude, I'm taking the train, man. And you know the train has to go really fast because when you're stoned everything seems so super slow so it'll seem like normal. Yeah, exactly. It's a normal speed. This is working good. And a warehouse like this seems to make that very possible. Well, it's already possible. There's lots of hydroponic stores but This is more taxes and jobs for Oakland. But this place is like no other. There's a dock in the box. Yes, an MD is on staff ready to recommend a cannabis card. That's actually the first step to cultivate. The reality is that our economy needs to be made up of a wide variety of different types of businesses. City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan did not co-sign backyard sales, but curiously did not reveal this. Council Member

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Medical Marijuana Cards, California as the New Amsterdam

The hosts describe California as the "Amsterdam of the United States" due to the ease of obtaining medical marijuana cards through "doc in the box" clinics. They note that President Obama has promised to stop federal raids on dispensaries, encouraging "potheads" to move to California to help revive the real estate market.

medical marijuana· doc in the box· amsterdam· barack obama· federal law

1:01:09 Rebecca Kaplan has been working on drafting ordinance to allow more dispensaries in Oakland. Now why is that important? Well, Oakland places limits on the number of dispensaries that operate within the city limits that it is maxed out at four and right now all four are open and operating in the city. So if the councilwoman's ordinance goes through, meaning they would expand the limits here, that means this place stands to benefit. They already have plans of opening a dispensary right here in the parking lot. Dana? I can see they're going to have a lot. We got to figure this out because I'm a little confused. So it seems counterintuitive to as you point out the prison system, which are all kind of all still jacked up about, you know, was it like 70 or 80% of all people in prison is weed related. So that's high. The rest of the country is higher than it is in California. Because mainly because

1:02:10 California has in a de facto sense, I'm going to tell everybody out there listening to this show that California for some years now has become the Amsterdam of the United States. If you are a weed or dope smoker, I would recommend to move to California. You can get a card like they mentioned on the show A card, I mean there's doctors here in California that now they take one look at you and say... No, they've got the doc in the box. The doctor's on premises. Yeah, the doc in the box. The doctor will look at you and say, oh man, you need some medical marijuana. You need some weed, dude. So he signs this card and that's it. Then the courts have said, okay, whatever. It's like a prescription.

1:02:49 and you got this card now you can buy as much weed as you need from these dispensaries which are all over the place especially in San Francisco and Oakland and of course the feds are kind of a little upset about this but Obama promises to stop busting them so they have to let it keep going so this trend is not backing up. This is going to move forward and it's going to be complete legalization unless I'm surprised by the vote. And so that means people everywhere across the United States, I know there's a lot of potheads out there, move to California, please. We need to jack up our real estate prices. We need people to move to California. Yeah, Oakster Dam is how Oakland now will be known. Well, you know what? This just proves, because you know, this show, this very show was on the leading tip of stonedness. I was hammered for the first year and a half of doing this show.

CHAPTER 27 / 51 Discussion

No Agenda Donation Segment, Pennsylvania Donor Coincidence

The hosts read the week's donations, including a $55.55 contribution from an anonymous donor recommending the book *Stones into Schools* by Greg Mortenson. They note a coincidence where two separate donors from Pennsylvania both gave exactly $62.00. Other contributors from Oregon, Australia, and Germany are acknowledged as the hosts lament the overall scarcity of funds for 2010.

anonymous· greg mortenson· mark honeyman· pennsylvania· donations

1:05:22 Well, we're always keeping our eye out for future trends here on NOAgenda and the trend is buy weed and buy houses. Speaking of which, I'd like to be able to pay for mine. And we could use certainly use your help. I don't know how you're doing John on your mortgage payments, but There's not a lot coming coming from our audience No Except for our executive producers, and I want to mention some of our contributors and producers this week I'll reiterate seat Stephen Pell's marker David Bailey and Elon Seamus or executive producers, but the other Donations are pretty

1:06:05 scarce this week. We got 5555 from somebody named Anonymous who wants us to read the book stones into schools by greg mortensen and stone into schools stones into schools it's about the uh... pakistan afghanistan situation he's a concern that we're be caving into the taliban who are horrible people no we're not caving into the more settling with them were were were paying them off the u n is having all these secret meetings is like the the war is over The war is over! Yeah, well, read the book. I'm gonna. I know you will. Also, Mark Honeyman in Victoria, Australia, who actually happens to be one of my editors on the blog, says, I need to be mentioning the blog more. Dvorak.org slash blog. He says, mention Dvorak.org slash blog more. So I have to do that. He gave us 50. Brian, it's either junk or yunk, J-U-N-C-K. I don't think it's junk. Junk.

1:07:07 Hey man, how's your junk? Hey, Coatesville, Pennsylvania gave a 60. Matthew Bickert, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, interestingly enough, gave a 62. What a coincidence. Proof of the random numbers there. We got two people from Pennsylvania. Never before we get anyone from Pennsylvania. Both give a 62. Oh, 62 dollars. Interesting. 60 even. Oh, 60. Oliver Kiesler, K-I-E-S-S-L-E-R in Köln, Pennsylvania, The Cologne Germany Deutschland he gave us $50.01 which is a one-way ticket on the high-speed rail. I don't know how far you get for 50 bucks on that thing. Jonathan D Norris LeGrand Oregon sent us a hundred and eight and that's it. That's all we got.

CHAPTER 28 / 51 Discussion

Subscription Model Sustainability, Five Dollar Monthly Plan

The hosts discuss the necessity of the $5 monthly subscription plan to sustain the show. They estimate they currently have about 900 subscribers but need 5,000 to create a reliable baseline for operations. They encourage listeners to sign up for the recurring plan to ensure the show's long-term survival in a difficult economy.

subscriptions· sustainability· five dollar plan· revenue· listeners

1:07:52 Yeah, it's it normally is like a four minute segment. That's it. Yeah. I wish it's a short segment. I think normally I wouldn't yeah Obviously I do want to thank everyone who's contributed and especially our executive producing production team But you can tell that consistently in 2010, and maybe it's just the economy, maybe it's the fact that more and more people are losing their jobs, I don't know, but we're about to lose ours. Yeah, 2010 has not been profitable. Luckily we're getting enough $5 people who subscribe, which I would recommend to everyone. Well, so the five, yes, no matter what you're donating, please sign up for the $5 a month plan.

1:08:32 About 20 years that will actually be a sustainable amount for us to continue because what is it now John if I count all the $5 donations per month, what are we at like 900 bucks? I'm going to have to run at the database and figure out how many people so far off. I can't be far off. We need the way I see it 5,000 people, 5,000 subscribers, which is not a lot by the way, around a subscription thing. I mean a magazine could get, picks up millions. We need 5,000 subscribers at $5 to sustain doing this show.

CHAPTER 29 / 51 Discussion

Missed Meeting with Optics Researcher, Bill Gates Interview Waste

Adam expresses regret over missing an email from a researcher in Perth who offered a donation and insights into terahertz imaging and Royal Raymond Rife. The hosts complain about the lack of an intern to manage their correspondence. They also describe wasting an hour watching a "terrible" Maria Bartiromo interview with Bill Gates that yielded no usable content for the show.

perth· photonics west· royal raymond rife· bill gates· maria bartiromo

1:09:09 for as long as you want to listen to it. I mean we could go on forever because that would be a baseline that would sustain us. All right let me let me mention two things. First of all I'm very upset and again this is because we're you know all we do is this show I mean it's just the two of us we have other jobs so there's just not enough hours in the day to do everything and I missed an email from Bryden No Agenda listener from Perth, Western Australia who's also an optics researcher from UWA. He was in town for the Photonics West conference at the Moscone Center, a stone's throw away, and he said, I figured I'd take the opportunity to say hello and if you had time to buy you a beer and give you a cash No Agenda donation.

1:09:52 He says his lab has done a small amount of work on the terahertz imaging systems, which of course I'm highly interested in going back to our conversation about Rife. Royal Raymond Reif and I missed him. He was in town Friday and I didn't get the email until I'm prepping it last night and I just I overlooked the email if we had like an intern at least I wouldn't have missed that opportunity. Oh yeah I got to turn I don't have a secretary that I hate that there's a ton of stuff that comes through that I miss and I find out about it later or I do a search on my inbox and I said oh it's a month ago. I know it really upsets me.

1:10:29 But it has to, you know, it's like lots of people offer to do work like that, but you can't do that with someone who's remote. You gotta have, you know, someone in the office in at least a couple times a week who's really going through the mail and doing all the follow-up on stuff. There's a lot of work, you know, and by the way, I wouldn't mind someone else pulling some of these clips from C-SPAN. You know, we sat, yesterday we sat through an MSNBC interview following up on a lead that Bill Gates CMBC actually, that Bill Gates had apparently talked about population control in relation to vaccines. So we watched through what? Like an hour? An hour of Maria Bartiromo with Bill and the Gates? The worst interview ever. And it was like nothing. We could pull nothing from that interview. An hour. An hour. We'll never get back. Ever. It's gone. Wasted. So yeah, that was... So Ryan, I'm going to say it's breed love.

CHAPTER 30 / 51 Discussion

The Power of Three, Third Show Pledge Drive Proposal

A listener named Breedlove proposed a "Drive for Three" to fund a third weekly episode of No Agenda. The plan involves seeking 3,333 donations of $33.33 each by March 3rd. While Adam is intrigued by the symbolic "power of three," John Dvorak expresses skepticism and finds the plan overly complicated.

power of three· pledge drive· march 3· donations· hookers and blow

1:11:26 Could be braid love, but breed love. Had a very interesting idea. He really wants to see us get to a third show a week. And he had an idea which I think is, I'd like to entertain it with you, John, before we announce we're going for it. So everyone else just pretend you're not hearing this. So he's saying, look, if there will be a way to get you enough funds to do a third show for the rest of the year, then maybe we can set up something with an ongoing program that would work. And he did some very simple math and it's based all on the magical number three. And this is why I like it. So of course we're talking about the third show, the drive for three.

1:12:06 I'm going to cite from his email. In recent weeks, the power of three has been talked about. I have a suggestion to build off of that. Start a pledge drive to get the third show going. Ask for donations of $33.33 or any multiple of that with a goal of reaching 3,333 donations of $33.33 each on a deadline of March the 3rd, which of course is the third day of the third month. And that would be enough to get a third show a week going, hopefully enough for you to afford enough hookers and blow for that third show a week. And I thought to myself, it's interesting if we could actually, and it's not, you know, considering the size of the audience, if for a month, so essentially up until the third of the third, we just pitched the idea of $33.33, a one-time donation,

1:13:00 If we cannot get 3,333 listeners to do that, then we might as well pack it up. And if we do, then we continue the drive, John, except we set a goal of every three months. Every three months, we have to get 3,333 donations of $33.33 each. And that would be enough for us to continue this show three days a week. It's a yeah, it sounds complicated Hey, thanks Symbolic aspect to it don't like it, but you know well no the reason is because we went through all this rigmarole over the $30 you know and it's

1:13:46 But it's the power, it's the magical power of three. It would prove the theory. It would disprove it, I think, but, uh, well, I mean, we'll chat about it and maybe we'll bring it up on Thursday. You hate it. You hate it. I can hear it all. You hate it. Okay. You hate it. I got it. It's not that I hate it. No, you got it. I got it. I got it. Well, what's your plan, big boy? Going well. Hey, hit that website again, everybody. Donate. Noagendashow.com, Dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA. Yeah, John, your system's working real good. So if people would go to it, I think it would. And you also go to channeldvorak.com slash NA. I hit that. I hit that. I hit that. Okay, you don't like it. I got it. No, I'm just saying. I got it. I got it. I think it's ambitious.

CHAPTER 32 / 51 Discussion

Global Sugar Crisis, Monsanto Substitute Speculation

A crisis in the global sugar market is attributed to poor monsoon seasons in India and excessive rain in Brazil. The hosts speculate that this is an artificially created shortage designed to pave the way for a new Monsanto sugar substitute. They warn that natural sugar is becoming unaffordable, forcing consumers toward high fructose corn syrup.

sugar· monsoon· india· brazil· monsanto· commodities

1:17:54 Something our producer Alex who is a financial wizard working in United States of Gitmo East UK has been tracking for me. We've been back and forth on email. I haven't really been wanting to talk about it just yet, but there is a crisis in the sugar markets. Have you been following this with our friend Horowitz? No. So a lot of the crop yields have essentially floundered. particularly disappointing monsoon season in India, too much rain in Brazil.

1:18:31 And there's been a whole bunch of, and we'll see if I can put some of it in the show notes. He's really analyzed this because I think he is a commodities trader. And there's been a lot of really interesting acquisitions and all kinds of moves. And what he said to me two weeks ago is you watch Monsanto's coming out. It's going to be some kind of amazing new sugar substitute product. But sugar, natural sugar is going away because it's unaffordable. It's a huge crisis. Well, this is no good. No, no, it's it's already, you know, there's there's there's the information starts to come out every once in a while. Then it gets squashed again by various PR firms, which is that that high fructose corn syrup. And there's plenty of documentation for this is not digested properly. And it makes you fat and it gives you diabetes. And it does all these other things. And oh, God, here comes the letters. Here comes a letter. No, no, that's not true. The research shows otherwise. All it is is fructose and glucose.

CHAPTER 33 / 51 Discussion

High Fructose Corn Syrup, Liquid Smoke Label Analysis

John Dvorak urges listeners to read food labels carefully and reject products containing high fructose corn syrup. He analyzes the ingredients of various "liquid smoke" brands, noting that some are primarily soy sauce and corn syrup rather than actual smoke. He recommends the Colgin brand for its purity compared to competitors like Stubbs or Wright's.

high fructose corn syrup· liquid smoke· colgin· soy sauce· labeling

1:19:30 and you know, or sucrose and the whole thing is completely out of control. I was at the store the other day and I want to tell people out there, and this is one of the reasons, just to be reminded to do this is why you should be donating to the show. Look at the labels of the food you buy. Look at every single label and look at it very carefully. If you see that it's got high fructose corn syrup in the thing. Put it back. Put it back. Put it back, but ask yourself what is it doing in there? I was looking at some liquid smoke. And by the way, the best liquid smoke out there, if you're going to buy liquid smoke. I produce that every morning.

1:20:07 Liquid smoke. What the hell is that? The best liquid smoke is colgens. What do you use liquid smoke for? You use it as a flavoring ingredient or to fake barbecue. Why don't you just smoke something? Sometimes you don't, it's raining out or you want to just fake it and put it in the oven and make it taste like it was smoked, you use liquid smoke or if you want to add some A few shakes of liquid smoke to some baked beans, it's unbelievably tasty. Or liquid smoke to tomato paste if you're gonna make pizza, it tastes fantastic anyway. Why not make real smoke? I don't get it. Well, you're not gonna smoke a tomato. Give me a break. Yeah, I've smoked a lot of, I've smoked cockroaches. I've smoked a lot of things, John.

1:20:45 So anyway, the best brand is Colgene. So I'm looking at the, they don't have it in the West Coast, they import it from Texas I think. But anyway, so I'm using Wright's which has a more, it has an ashtray flavor that's not appealing. But I'm looking at the label of the stuff right next to it, Stubbs. And there's no, I'm looking, where's the smoke in this stuff? Ingredients can, and by the way, ingredients on most labels in the United States are done in the order of the amount. So the first thing listed is the most that's in there. There's more of that than the second thing listed, which is less than the first and on the way to the end. So the first thing listed on Stubbs liquid smoke is soy sauce. What is that liquid smoke? And then there was some sort of corn syrup. I mean, where's the smoke? The rights at least is just smoke. I mean, that's what you want to be buying. And the soy sauce, of course, is based on Monsanto soybeans.

CHAPTER 34 / 51 Discussion

Big Organic, Pepsi Throwback Real Sugar

The hosts criticize "Big Organic" retailers like Whole Foods, citing author Michael Pollan's work on how these companies prioritize profit over health. They mention that Pepsi has released a "Throwback" version using real sugar, which they expect to sell well despite the rising cost of sugar. They reiterate the importance of avoiding genetically modified soy and corn products.

whole foods· michael pollan· big organic· pepsi throwback· canola oil

1:21:42 Yeah, I'm sure. So anyway, so the whole thing, I'm looking at all these different products in the condiments section and everything's got high fructose corn syrup in it with rare exceptions. But you look and it's like high fructose corn syrup. I've run into like tuna cans, good quality, you think tuna and you read and this has got tuna and then soy tortillas. It's got soy products or something in there. What is soy products doing in my tuna? It's another Monsanto product. What's it doing in my tuna? Why can't they just give me tuna? I don't want all this other crap. Because we're trying to genetically modify you. It's unbelievable. I mean, everybody out there should look at these labels. I think I went through this and this is a store, a high end store with a lot of organic stuff. Oh, not Whole Foods.

1:22:33 Whole Foods has got as much of this or more. I know. I'm not happy with my Whole Foods experience. I think these guys are full of crap. It's called, Michael Pollan, the writer who talks about this stuff, calls it big organic. You know, just like big business. They're not interested in your health. And so they're pushing canola, they're pushing soy, which is another thing I don't like. But anyway, but this high fructose corn syrup thing is completely out of control. Rarely, every once in a while I run into something that says sugar. I go, holy crap, real sugar? This has sugar in it? In fact, Pepsi has made it, and they brought out a Pepsi throwback or whatever, which uses sugar. I'm sure it's selling out.

1:23:18 Well, it's going to get real expensive now with the sugar crisis. Well, this crisis could be artificially created. I mean, the whole thing, it seems like anything that has to do with sugar that for the last 10 years has been there's a scam involved pushing this high fructose corn syrup garbage, which is made in a refinery, by the way. I'm going to forward you the email thread from Alexis. or Alex as I call him, and you'll see, yes, it is a scam. It's an artificially created crisis. They're buying up stuff, they're closing plants down after they buy them up, all kinds of weird stuff. So it is artificially created. I would recommend people look on those labels, look on every label. If you see high fructose corn syrup, reject the product. You know, I've run into like tomato sauce, or tomato paste. There's some of them, you look at the label and it says high fructose.

1:24:04 You look at one label and it says contents, tomatoes. That's what you want to buy. That would make sense if I'm going for tomato paste. But you look at the other one, it's got all kinds of crap in it. It's like why am I buying tomato paste that's got anything but tomato? All I want is the tomato pie. I don't want all this other junk. I can put junk in the food as I cook it. It's ridiculous. Wow. I think you can push the pet peeve of John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. Show about you know you two guys basically talking about the stock market and how stuff is going It's interesting though because well first of all you totally become the crackpot on that show which is you know you're ripping me off But that's okay. I like this kind of it makes me feel proud But there's you know the the the market's up here, sir well You're not listen you're no Jack Kennedy either, okay, I

CHAPTER 35 / 51 Discussion

Volcker Plan, JPMorgan Chase vs Goldman Sachs War

The hosts analyze the "Volcker Plan" for banking reform, suggesting it represents an all-out war between JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs. They claim Paul Volcker is a JPMorgan ally positioned to dismantle the advantages gained by Goldman Sachs during the 2008 bailout. The segment explores the potential return of Glass-Steagall regulations to curb investment bank power.

paul volcker· timmy geithner· goldman sachs· jpmorgan chase· glass-steagall

1:23:18 Well, it's going to get real expensive now with the sugar crisis. Well, this crisis could be artificially created. I mean, the whole thing, it seems like anything that has to do with sugar that for the last 10 years has been there's a scam involved pushing this high fructose corn syrup garbage, which is made in a refinery, by the way. I'm going to forward you the email thread from Alexis. or Alex as I call him, and you'll see, yes, it is a scam. It's an artificially created crisis. They're buying up stuff, they're closing plants down after they buy them up, all kinds of weird stuff. So it is artificially created. I would recommend people look on those labels, look on every label. If you see high fructose corn syrup, reject the product. You know, I've run into like tomato sauce, or tomato paste. There's some of them, you look at the label and it says high fructose.

1:24:04 You look at one label and it says contents, tomatoes. That's what you want to buy. That would make sense if I'm going for tomato paste. But you look at the other one, it's got all kinds of crap in it. It's like why am I buying tomato paste that's got anything but tomato? All I want is the tomato pie. I don't want all this other junk. I can put junk in the food as I cook it. It's ridiculous. Wow. I think you can push the pet peeve of John C. Dvorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. Show about you know you two guys basically talking about the stock market and how stuff is going It's interesting though because well first of all you totally become the crackpot on that show which is you know you're ripping me off But that's okay. I like this kind of it makes me feel proud But there's you know the the the market's up here, sir well You're not listen you're no Jack Kennedy either, okay, I

1:25:08 So I think I've found out what you guys should have hit upon. And it makes so much sense now that I understand it. So the market has been going down. I mean, it's really, it's tanking, right? Seven days in a row or something, consistently down market, down market. We're almost at 10,000 now, which is a significant drop from just a few weeks ago. It's adjusting. Well, let me tell you what's going on. And it took me a while to figure it out. So what we've seen now is we have Timmy Geithner, Who is essentially being, I still think, thrown under a bus. Like, screw this guy, we gotta get rid of him anyway, he's a weak pussy. Who of course is affiliated with the Federal Reserve through his work at the New York Federal Reserve and his hundreds of phone calls to Hank Paulson. Of course, Hank Paulson, all part of the Goldman Sachs cabal, which includes

1:26:03 What's his face? Bernanke. No, all these guys were all Goldman Sachs. So the president announced his new banking reform, which is known as the Volcker plan. Now Paul Volcker was, and even Ron Paul kind of likes Paul Volcker, if you read his book, End the Fed, and that's of course why I'm like, oh, all right, so this guy might be better than we thought he was. He's not just another one of these asshole bankers. He was the head of the Federal Reserve before Greenspan, so that was the days of Carter, I'm going to say. Back in the 20s it seems like. He's been around for a while. So he comes out with the Volcker Plan, which essentially could lead to Glass-Steagall being brought in. You'll recall that during this whole emergency bailout and the world was going to come falling down on our heads and there would be rioting in the streets.

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Flash Trading Corruption, Market Manipulation Warnings

The hosts allege that Goldman Sachs uses corrupt "flash trading" computer models to manipulate market directions. They argue that the current market decline is a result of the inter-bank war between the "Goldmans" and the "Chases." Listeners are advised to exit the stock market immediately, as the hosts believe the entire system is a fake, manipulated Ponzi scheme.

flash trading· high-frequency trading· lloyd blankfein· rockefellers· market crash

1:26:56 All of a sudden Goldman Sachs became a bank instead of just an investment firm so they could actually borrow money from the Federal Reserve. And these are really high concepts, but it's worth it trying to figure some of this stuff out because, hey, after all it's our money and we're getting screwed with it. Volcker is not a Goldman guy. He is in fact a JPMorgan Chase guy from way back in the day. He's always been affiliated with Chase Manhattan, which now of course is JPMorgan Chase. And I believe what is going on right now, and of course we are the victim in the middle if you have a 401k for sure, is that there is an all-out war going on between two fractions, JPMorgan Chase and the Goldman Group. Probably the ex-Lehman guys too. Yeah, well Lehman guys are right on board of course because you know they got brought down, they were the first ones to get screwed by Goldman, i.e. Hank Paulson. And if you look at it,

1:27:54 We literally have these two groups and I think if you look at the markets, because we know that 70% of the market activity up until just recently I guess is created by this high volume trading that Goldman Sachs is doing. Flash trading. Flash trading, yeah. Everyone's kind of like, well they're doing it, whatever. Yeah, obviously. and I don't want to sound like the crackpot here but I'll do it anyway. I think that they have found some computer programmers, they're plugged right in to the system so they get to buy and sell stuff on the fly on the computer. They've somehow deconstructed the way the models, the

1:28:38 the way the trading models work in such a way that they can flash trade and move stocks in any direction they want. So if the market goes up, it's like turning a knob. Let's round the market up. They can't do it to an extreme, but they can do it just enough. That's why it goes up, up, up, up, up, day after day after day after day, and then they say, I'll turn it down, and they go down, down, down, down with this flash trading model that they have. I think there's something corrupt about it. That's why I think people have been killed And people stole the code and all the rest of it. Yes, well so here's what's happening. The JP Morgan guys don't have these programmers. It takes a while to get all this stuff together and make it all work. They're tired of this crap. They're tired of Goldman. They're tired of Lloyd Blankfein going, oh, we're doing God's work. And so now they've got Volcker in there. And they're like, you know what? We're going to screw these guys. They're going to start outlawing all of this stuff. There's going to be regulations against it. And of course, the market is completely

1:29:35 Fake you know it's it's it's it's completely manipulated. There's no real Fundamental basis to it. That's why it's coming down right now. It's a war between the goldmans and The chases and of course the JP Morgan chase I've always been friends with the Rockefellers with the Rothschilds I'm sorry, so we've got them and don't make no mistake. There's competition between banks They may all go sit around the White House table, but there's real competition and They really hate each other. And if you're in the market, get out. Get out. Goldman had the naked shorts, front-running the market, Ponzi schemes, essentially, this flash trading. I'm telling you that there is an all-in-all-out war going on. And if you're in the market, you need to get out as soon as possible. That's my story. Hey, I have a follow-up.

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Mike Connell Murder Allegations, Maxim Magazine Investigation

Maxim Magazine is reportedly publishing an in-depth report on the death of Mike Connell, the IT guru for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Connell's widow, Heather, alleges he was murdered to prevent him from whistleblowing on the rigged 2004 election. The hosts discuss suspicious details of the plane crash investigation, including the missing Blackberry and the hasty removal of debris.

mike connell· karl rove· ntsb· 2004 election· maxim magazine

1:30:35 It's a bear trap personally, but go ahead. I know what? No, no, no, no, I I believe in these wars Why is Volker in there all of a sudden he's put in there because he's on the JP Morgan chase are not small Okay, these guys are not small. They do all the debit cards for food stamps. These guys are pretty big, too It's just that they're you know, they don't have the flash trading stuff you are not going to believe it when it comes to actual journalism in the Two to the head category. I don't think it's out yet, but the new Maxim magazine has in-depth reporting on Mike Connell. And this is a guy that we wondered what happened to the story. I think we were just talking about it the other day. This is the IT guru who ran the shadow email system for Bush, Karl Rove, and Cheney.

1:31:31 And you recall that his single airplane, Piper Saratoga, By the way, the same model that JFK Jr. was flying plunged from the sky unexpectedly on his way home. Yeah, it broke up in the sky, they know that much. There had to be a bomb on board. Well, what's interesting is the NTSB has still not released an official report. It's all online, they always have all of the reports. You can see what happened. It's very important for pilots to be able to read this and learn from mistakes. So they've still not actually released that information. But his widow is livid, is livid. Her name is Heather. And in this article, which is, I don't think it's out yet, Maxim Magazine, she says, quote, I have pieces of my husband's brain. Says I picked them up with my hands six days after the crash. Chunks of his skin and internal organs. How can that be a proper investigation? How is that acceptable?

1:32:31 She says his Blackberry, phone numbers, notes, files, contacts, all of it was gone even though his backpack was found still zipped up with the matching Bluetooth earpiece inside. So she says along with Mike's sister Shannon, convinced he was murdered. And I'm reading, I think it's the Brad blog is where I got this from. There's a couple of interesting little facts. about this investigation, hold on a second, where is, can't find it, but essentially

1:33:15 Here it is. The night of the crash scene, which would normally be roped off and investigated in daylight, was lit by towers, photographed and documented by officials from the NTSB and the FAA. Then Connell's plane was hastily removed to a secure hangar under the cover of darkness. By 6 a.m., the investigators had vanished, leaving behind a trail of debris and now, of course, one very angry widow. During his calls to the tower as he was on final approach, a Greentown Fire Department official is quoted as explaining he was told, quote, the tower was in lockdown at the time, no information was available. The guy was murdered. And this of course goes back to the 2004 rigged elections.

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Dead Man Switch, Information Security Strategy

Following the Mike Connell story, Adam Curry explains the concept of a "dead man switch" for information security. This involves a server that automatically distributes a zip file of incriminating documents to predetermined addresses if the owner fails to check in via email or Twitter. The hosts discuss the necessity of such measures for those holding sensitive political data.

dead man switch· server· encryption· whistleblowing· twitter

1:34:04 And it looks like Connell was going to blow the whistle and had lots of information to back it up. Of course, the question now is did he have some kind of shadow system or copy somewhere which would have a lot of this incriminating evidence? Yeah, you got to be careful. You got to be real careful. No kidding. If you got incriminating evidence, you better have some way of making sure that if something happens, it gets out. Generally speaking, you know, you've run into a situation where they're going to kill this poor guy and they end up holding the information that he had or maybe it was on the Blackberry or whatever. I don't know. Well, that's why I have a dead man switch. You don't have one?

1:34:47 I don't talk about anything like that. Oh, I have one. The problem with me is I don't have anything of value in terms of information. Oh no, I've got all the goods. Essentially, I'm just making suppositions. I'm on this show with you. I do the same research. I find the same data that anyone else can find if they actually spend the time on Google. But I haven't got the goods on anybody. If I was a guy like Mike Connell, what I would have done is have a dead man switch, which essentially is a server somewhere that's waiting for a ping every month. And if it doesn't get an email from me or if it doesn't, if I don't Twitter a certain word or something like that, it will then automatically fire off a huge zip file filled with all my documents to a number of predetermined email addresses. That's what I do. I'd spam it. I just send it to everyone.

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Baron Von Helding Suicide, FBI SWAT Raid

Ronald Eade, known as Baron Von Helding, reportedly committed suicide during an FBI SWAT raid on his Hollywood estate. The raid was allegedly triggered by accusations that Eade offered a minor money to pose for nude photos. The hosts find the use of tear gas and the destruction of the estate's gates suspicious, suggesting Eade may have been "railroaded" or silenced.

ronald eade· baron von helding· fbi· swat· hollywood· child pornography

1:35:36 I came across an interesting article and it caught my eye because I've been to this place known as the Von Helding Estate. Have you ever heard of this, John? No. The Von Helding Estate is, I think it was an AIDS Project Los Angeles benefit. It's this guy named Ronald Eade, E-A-D-E. and he called himself, I don't know if he called himself that or what the deal was, but Baron Von Helding. And essentially he was one of these Hollywood movers and shakers and he'd always use his Von Helding estate for charities. And that's one of these typical beautiful Hollywood type places. Well, he suicided himself the other day after FBI officials

1:36:31 Either they caught him or they, no I guess what they tried to do is they, he had tried to sell a picture of an underage teenage, a 15 year old boy. No wait a minute, he allegedly had offered a 15 year old boy money if he posed nude in pictures and then the FBI broke down his gate to the Von Helding estate. When you see the picture in the show notes at noagendashow.com it's like this thing was rammed by something big. Why don't they just wait for him to go walk outside? Well, it gets worse because then they tear gas the place. They tear gas the place. Why don't they just wait for him to go to the store? Does this make any sense to anybody? This is why I'm mentioning it. And then so that, you know, after it's tear gas, they go in and oh, he shot himself in the head. Twice, by the way. He shot himself twice in the head? No, he shot himself. It doesn't say twice. I'm just making that up.

1:37:25 But there's something really weird. They do have these twice in the head guys. Yeah, but it's weird. This is just weird. Something sounds fishy. And you know I'm telling you this shit going on in Hollywood that is, they tried to railroad Michael Jackson with this child pornography crap. They're always doing this to people. So I think this guy had some information or some goods on somebody. Something was going on, there was a reason for it, but the SWAT team was involved. The SWAT team? Yes. Wait, let me get this straight. The guy supposedly or allegedly offered some kid, some funny two-posed dude? I've got the story. On December 23rd, I'll read the news report.

1:38:09 The boy was at Eads home when he allegedly was shown photos of other teens. Ead also reportedly took four shots of the 15 year old with his shirt off. The FBI monitored two phone calls, coincidentally, between the teen and Ead on January 14th. where he was allegedly, where he allegedly asked the boy to pose nude for private photos. Eid described a photograph series that he sold to Gloria, some client of his I guess, which depicted a different minor teenage boy posing as a cowboy and a bucking bronco type of guy. So, um, Eid ran inside the house when agents showed up with an arrest warrant about 2pm on Thursday. The agents heard a gunshot, they say. But, but, but, they broke down the gate!

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Von Helding Standoff Details, Russian Roommate Connection

Details of the five-hour standoff at the Von Helding estate reveal that agents heard a gunshot before entering to find Eade dead. The hosts note that Eade had no prior convictions and was active in AIDS charities. They highlight the presence of a Russian roommate, Damian Dmitrikovsky, and speculate about potential "spy stuff" or deeper Hollywood scandals.

fbi· swat· damian dmitrikovsky· hollywood· standoff

1:37:25 But there's something really weird. They do have these twice in the head guys. Yeah, but it's weird. This is just weird. Something sounds fishy. And you know I'm telling you this shit going on in Hollywood that is, they tried to railroad Michael Jackson with this child pornography crap. They're always doing this to people. So I think this guy had some information or some goods on somebody. Something was going on, there was a reason for it, but the SWAT team was involved. The SWAT team? Yes. Wait, let me get this straight. The guy supposedly or allegedly offered some kid, some funny two-posed dude? I've got the story. On December 23rd, I'll read the news report.

1:38:09 The boy was at Eads home when he allegedly was shown photos of other teens. Ead also reportedly took four shots of the 15 year old with his shirt off. The FBI monitored two phone calls, coincidentally, between the teen and Ead on January 14th. where he was allegedly, where he allegedly asked the boy to pose nude for private photos. Eid described a photograph series that he sold to Gloria, some client of his I guess, which depicted a different minor teenage boy posing as a cowboy and a bucking bronco type of guy. So, um, Eid ran inside the house when agents showed up with an arrest warrant about 2pm on Thursday. The agents heard a gunshot, they say. But, but, but, they broke down the gate!

1:38:56 The FBI SWAT team and deputies entered the home at 745, they had like a 5 hour standoff? And found Eid with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. No prior convictions. The guy was involved in all kinds of AIDS charities, HIV prevention programs. It was like an upstand, it was a little kooky, but, you know, call himself Baron Von Helding. Which of course was kind of a joke, but it was this place was used for movie shoots, parties, weddings, fundraisers, and now the guy shoots himself over some picture. And the gates broken down. This is like a four section gate. This is not like you know like a little rickety white picket fence. Yeah, it sounds like they had to get to him real fast for some reason.

1:39:45 He must have had something on somebody. I mean, otherwise it doesn't make any sense. You wouldn't do that. You would just wait. Well, this is interesting. Or chop, why don't they find a helicopter and drop somebody off? Why do they have to wreck the place? This is why I don't like it. FBI's EADS roommate, Damian Dmitrikovsky. Hmm. Hmm. Russian. Ah, maybe there was some spy stuff involved. I'll investigate. I just thought that was, because I've been there. I'm like, wow, that's kind of weird. Yeah, the story's fishy. Yeah, to say the least. That's depressing. That's a good way to end the show. No, we don't have to end the show just yet. I wanted to give you a follow up on the Vancouver false flag reports that we're following. Oh yeah, Vancouver, if anybody hasn't been listening to the show and they should be listening every show we do, we suspect there's going to be a false flag.

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Vancouver Ammonium Nitrate, Missing Explosives Reports

Reports indicate that 2,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate went missing in Vancouver ahead of the 2010 Winter Olympics. While officials initially claimed it was a clerical error, the hosts note that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Mounties) were unable to confirm the accounting discrepancy. They suggest this could be a precursor to a "false flag" event.

vancouver· ammonium nitrate· explosives· mounties· clerical error

1:40:41 Well, we've kind of glommed on to this a couple of our producers have been releasing information consistently and so it starts off kind of with this ammonium nitrate gone missing. Now the amount of ammonium nitrate is a little sketchy. I think it's actually 2,000 pounds. That was missing and outcomes report that would be a ton of W time right not 6600 tons but a ton I think you still do some damage that you think I would hope so yeah so we start reporting on this stuff passing along essentially reading

1:41:19 And the Vancouver Sun says, oh don't worry about it. They talk about two tons of power explosive ammonium nitrate that were missing Wednesday afternoon have now been found. Well everything's over then. It was a clerical error said the sergeant. Oh no, we just miscounted something. So this was on the 6th. which is actually after we even, so someone sent me this and said, oh no, no, no, this is wrong, they found it. But then I go to Canada.com and on January 7th, the company determined the discrepancy was the result of a clerical error. Mounties have been investigating the company's assessment since then but still have been unable to confirm the accounting discrepancy. So this stuff is still gone. It's still missing. So the Mounties are still on the case.

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Vancouver Olympic Security, Verint Systems Connection

The hosts discuss the security infrastructure for the Vancouver Olympics, noting that Verint Systems—the company involved in the London 7-7 bombings—is providing the cameras. They also mention that the Canadian government has been shut down, potentially allowing U.S. troops to take control in the event of a terror attack under existing bilateral agreements.

vancouver· olympics· verint systems· 7-7 bombings· security drills

1:42:14 And if you look at all the companies, all the people who were involved with the security around Vancouver and the knowledge that the agreement now between Canada and the United States is if there is a terror attack, US troops will come marching across the border to take control. You know that that's... That doesn't sound right. Canadians have their own forces. Yeah, but they've shut down the government, remember? We've got that part, conveniently. Now I think you were doing some research on some of the officials involved here that they have a kind of a sketchy background. Yeah, I'm looking for the name of the guy. The guy who was in charge of the drill, and it was a consultancy by the way, the drill that was taking place in the United Kingdom in London the day of the terror attacks on 7-7. Let me see if I can find this.

1:43:14 I'm going to find his name and put it in the show notes. That guy is responsible for some of the security up there right now. You know, it's like it can't get any kookier. Then, so I'm on this thing right now and I'm looking at all of these and maybe this is a red herring, it would make so much sense because I mean there's so many clues, someone's got to be laughing at us. It's either that or they're just so blatantly arrogant they don't care anymore. It's like we're just going to do whatever we want to do. Yeah, probably the latter because nobody seems to pay much attention. Well, I'm trying to fire up a YouTube video here. Here we go.

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Movie 2012 Predictive Programming, Olympic Lack of Snow

A clip from the movie *2012* is analyzed for potential "predictive programming" regarding a disaster in British Columbia. The hosts also comment on the bizarre lack of snow in Vancouver during record-breaking cold elsewhere, suggesting either a "cosmic joke" or the intentional use of weather modification machines.

2012 movie· british columbia· olympics· weather modification· snow

1:43:51 So the movie 2012, let me just start it, the movie 2012, you know there's all kinds of horrible things going wrong in the world. And listen to their reference of British Columbia in this movie about a terror attack. So right now there's an earthquake. The devastation in Rio de Janeiro is beyond imagination. That's the earthquake in Rio de Janeiro. I haven't seen the movie, so I'm just taking this at face value. Now listen to the dialogue in a second as these two officials get into it.

1:44:37 So they're still showing So the world is coming down the Olympic Games, this is the 2012 Olympic Games there's riots on the streets Millions of millions of distraught masses are gathering in places everywhere converging in desperate prayer I don't think you could hear that very well. Could you hear it? I heard said there was something about British Columbia 2010 right? Yeah

1:45:31 That was a crappy clip. Yeah, I I didn't know it would sound so so bad But you know this is all these clues everywhere as to what's gonna happen. We've got the missing ammonia nitrate We've got the same company. I think it's veritim The same company who did the security cameras in the London buses and tubes which convened did not work and we don't have any videotape of any of these terrorists who did the 7-7 bombings. They're the ones supplying all the cameras for Vancouver. And the craziest thing is there's no snow! Yeah, I love this no snow thing. They've got a truck in the snow. Yeah, I know they make it big stink about oh, we're gonna do it's always there's never not snowed in January they say and we've got sub-zero temperatures throughout the entire world record-breaking lows and they've got no snow where they're gonna hold the Olympics what's up with that is that another joke? It's a cosmic joke of anything or somebody did put the wrong they turn the wrong knob on the weather machine

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Chase Bank Honesty Commercial, Psychological Projection

The hosts critique a Chase Bank commercial where a man secretly runs to an ATM because a restaurant is "cash only," rather than simply telling his date. They interpret this as a projection of the bank's own "dishonest mentality." They argue that the behavior depicted in the ad is socially abnormal and reflects a lack of corporate integrity.

chase bank· advertising· atm· psychology· projection

1:46:37 Whatever the case, it's pretty funny that there's no snow up there. Let me see. So there's a commercial floating around. You want to change the topic? Can we change the topic? Yeah, I had a couple of things. Sure, go ahead. We'll bring it up after I'm done with this observation. I was going to make a clip of this, but I realized it's not that great of it. It's mostly visual. But I always think it's interesting how people, you know, you always talk about these guys who make the biggest stink about pedophilia and flat-chested women. They're the ones that are the weirdos. They are the weirdos, guaranteed. And it's like people project flat. Well, I think Chase Bank is one of these people about honesty. And there's a commercial, and everyone has probably listened to their show, if they watch enough television, they've seen this commercial at least once. A guy and a girl are in an expensive restaurant

1:47:28 looking at a menu and there was going to be great experience and this girl is raving about the food on the menu. He looks down at the bottom of the menu and it says cash only. Alright. She's holding the menu up, he freaks out and runs out of the restaurant down the street to a chase ATM machine and grabs some cash and then rushes back in and then sits down as she lowers her menu and says what's wrong, you know, nothing. Now, in real life, If you were at a restaurant, and I've actually had this happen, and you find it's cash only and you see an ATM machine across the street, what you do is you say, oh, I see it's cash only. Can you hold on a second? I'm going to walk across the street and get some cash out of the ATM machine. Yeah, exactly. You don't run off and you don't skulk off like you're afraid to admit to anything. This to me is, whoever approved this, which is bank management,

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Burger King Adult Baby Commercials, Sexual Fetish Marketing

A new Burger King advertising campaign features grown men dressed as babies in diapers, which the hosts describe as a "sexual sick fetish." They question how such "creepy" imagery was approved by management to sell Whoppers. The discussion links this to a broader trend of unsettling Burger King commercials, including the previous "King" character.

burger king· advertising· adult baby· fetish· marketing

1:48:25 tells me that the bank is basically crooked or dishonest. Because this is a dishonest maneuver that they're actually showing as some sort of entertainment, but I see it as pure projection of the mentality of the bank itself. I find it abhorrent. Yeah, that's a good point and I see more of this weird behavior which I think is corporate culture. For instance, the new Burger King campaign. Now, can you imagine a meeting with an advertising agency where they sit down with a client, in this case Burger King, and say, okay, I've got this great idea. We've got these new Whoppers we've got to sell, right? So why don't we dress grown men up as babies and have them do all kinds of kooky baby stuff like milk spilling out of their bottle and throwing dirt on top of their head, dressed as a baby, grown men dressed as a baby in diapers.

1:49:19 That is a sexual sick fetish. And the commercial, have you seen the commercials? No, I have not seen this one. They're on all the time. It's like a whole series of them. And I don't even know what the payoff is, but I keep looking at this grown man dressed as a baby with a bottle of formula and he tips it upside down, the top comes off and all the formula, you know, splashes on his head. And another one is sitting in like in the playground. This is Burger King? Burger King! And then they cut to a fucking Whopper. And I'm like, what? I mean, how did anyone sell this? And you know, it's a sexual fetish. And there's something creepy about it. It's creepy. Yeah, the Burger King commercials have largely been creepy with that crazy looking character. Yeah, you should see this one. There's a bunch of them where he's a voyeur. No, I haven't seen that one. But this is the new sales. This was a couple years ago. That Burger King guy, that weird looking guy. Oh, yeah, the king? There used to be somebody in their kitchen, and then he'd be peering in.

1:50:16 It's creepy. It's creepy. Something's wrong with them. All right, just a couple things on Haiti real quick because now of course the articles are coming out left and right. It's not like we didn't tell you. And you know what? Earthquake machine or not, it doesn't matter. They were ready to pounce on this poor place. I quote by Behind the smoke, rubble and an unending drama of human tragedy in the hapless Caribbean country, a drama is in full play for control of what geophysicists believe may be one of the world's richest zones for hydrocarbons, oil and gas outside the Middle East, possibly orders of magnitude greater than that of nearby Venezuela. Didn't we call this on the day of the quake pretty much? Yeah, they have been researching this for years, John. They were ready for this.

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Haiti Oil Reserves, University of Texas Geological Mapping

Geophysicists believe Haiti may sit on one of the world's richest zones for oil and gas, potentially larger than Venezuela's reserves. The hosts point out that the University of Texas began mapping these hydrocarbons in 2005, shortly after President Aristide was deposed. They argue the current military presence in Haiti is more about securing these resources than humanitarian aid.

haiti· oil· hydrocarbons· university of texas· chevron· exxonmobil

1:49:19 That is a sexual sick fetish. And the commercial, have you seen the commercials? No, I have not seen this one. They're on all the time. It's like a whole series of them. And I don't even know what the payoff is, but I keep looking at this grown man dressed as a baby with a bottle of formula and he tips it upside down, the top comes off and all the formula, you know, splashes on his head. And another one is sitting in like in the playground. This is Burger King? Burger King! And then they cut to a fucking Whopper. And I'm like, what? I mean, how did anyone sell this? And you know, it's a sexual fetish. And there's something creepy about it. It's creepy. Yeah, the Burger King commercials have largely been creepy with that crazy looking character. Yeah, you should see this one. There's a bunch of them where he's a voyeur. No, I haven't seen that one. But this is the new sales. This was a couple years ago. That Burger King guy, that weird looking guy. Oh, yeah, the king? There used to be somebody in their kitchen, and then he'd be peering in.

1:50:16 It's creepy. It's creepy. Something's wrong with them. All right, just a couple things on Haiti real quick because now of course the articles are coming out left and right. It's not like we didn't tell you. And you know what? Earthquake machine or not, it doesn't matter. They were ready to pounce on this poor place. I quote by Behind the smoke, rubble and an unending drama of human tragedy in the hapless Caribbean country, a drama is in full play for control of what geophysicists believe may be one of the world's richest zones for hydrocarbons, oil and gas outside the Middle East, possibly orders of magnitude greater than that of nearby Venezuela. Didn't we call this on the day of the quake pretty much? Yeah, they have been researching this for years, John. They were ready for this.

1:51:04 They were ready for it. They were just waiting and of course everything was there conveniently the second in charge of Southern Command was there in Haiti. They've been waiting for this. Now we have 20,000 Marines there. No one cares about the people. This is all about how do we grab the land? How do we put our stake in there? They already tried this in 2005 when they shipped Aristide out. Notably in 2005, a year after the Bush-Cheney administration de facto deposed the democratically elected president of Haiti, Jean-Baptiste Aristide, a team of geologists from the Institute for Geophysics at the University of Texas began an ambitious and thorough two-phase mapping of all geological data of the Caribbean basins.

1:51:56 The project, due to be completed in 2011, directed by Dr. Paul Mann, is called the Caribbean Basins, Tectonics and Hydrocarbons, all about determining as precisely as possible the relation between tectonic plates in the Caribbean and the potential for hydrocarbons, oil and gas. They turned this machine on and blew it all open. And who is in there now? The multi-million dollar research of course, which was funded by Chevron, ExxonMobil, the Anglo-Dutch Shell and BHP Billiton. They were ready for this. Now, what do we do about the people of poor Haiti? Well, here's a fantastic idea. Let's send some of those formaldehyde trailers their way from Katrina, from AP.

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Formaldehyde Trailers for Haiti, FEMA Katrina Surplus

U.S. lawmakers are pressing to send thousands of surplus FEMA trailers from Hurricane Katrina to Haiti, despite known formaldehyde contamination. Representative Benny Thompson suggested they could be used for "short-term" housing. The hosts condemn the plan as a "scam" to dispose of toxic waste under the guise of international aid through USAID.

haiti· fema· katrina trailers· formaldehyde· benny thompson· usaid

1:52:43 The trailer industry and lawmakers are pressing the government to send Haiti thousands of potentially formaldehyde-laced trailers left over from Hurricane Katrina. That's a beauty! Well wait! In a January 15th letter to FEMA... Representative Benny Thompson, Democrat from Mississippi, Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security said the trailers could be used as temporary shelter or emergency clinics. Quote, while I continue to believe that these units should not be used for human habitation, I do believe they could be used of some benefit on a short-term limited basis if the appropriate safeguards are provided. Go ahead, send him the formaldehyde trailers.

1:53:28 This is crazy! It's crazy! That's a good pick up. I never knew that was going on. Yeah, this is funny. I mean, the oil doesn't surprise me in the least, obviously, but this other scam, what do we do with these damn trailers? I don't know. Hey, I got an idea! They got like a hundred thousand of them. And of course people were... Yeah, there's a ton of them. They're all contaminated. Yeah, people were dying. And this of course is the US Agency for International Development, USAID. Yeah, USAID, that's the economic hitman, one of the arms of the economic hitman group. Yeah. So just send that shit over to them, that's fine. If you want to read the actual news reports and the show notes at noagendashow.com.

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Anwar al-Awlaki CIA Hit List, American Citizen Targeted

The CIA has reportedly placed Anwar al-Awlaki, a Muslim cleric born in New Mexico, on a target list for drone strikes. This marks the first time a U.S. citizen has been officially targeted for assassination by the agency. The hosts mock the idea that "lawyers vet the killing" to ensure it is legally acceptable to execute a citizen without trial.

anwar al-awlaki· cia· hit list· drones· yemen· american citizen

1:54:11 And I think I have a couple of crotch bomber things just to... We'll get into that the next time. Now we're getting a lot of reports that it's Mossad somehow that that Indian guy at the airport they were doing some sort of surveillance deal and the whole thing was a scam. Yeah, well there was a lot of videotaping going on continuously from the minute that guy was helping him get on the plane to inside the plane. Of course we've never seen said videotape anywhere. No, but we do have reports that it was actually taking place a couple of people said that we had one clip on the show immediately about some woman But we've never seen the videotape and something you're saying be interesting like a training tape for the some intelligence organization when the Wall Street Journal reports the Pentagon is assigning more special forces personnel to Yemen as part of a broad push to speed the training of the country's counter-terror forces

1:55:08 Essentially the CIA is just sending more. I mean, please! And then my favorite, and this is from the LA Times. So they've now, the CIA has now put Anwar al-Awlaki, who is the, I guess he's the cleric that the Fort Hood so-called shooter was corresponding with. Right. So he's an American citizen by the way. They've now put him on the hit list. So he can be killed by a drone. Yeah, it's no joke. He's an American citizen? I didn't know that we were killing our own people. Yep. No, there's a whole process.

1:55:53 No US citizen has ever been on the CIA's target list, which mainly names al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden, according to current or former US officials. But that is expected to change as CIA analysts compile a case against the Muslim cleric who was born in New Mexico but now resides in Yemen. And the way they do this, we find this because it was a great line. You know, they don't take this lightly. They actually have lawyers look at it before they decide to kill somebody. Yeah, they have to vet the killing. They put lawyers on it just to make sure that it's okay. It's nuts. It's totally nuts. You can just kill whoever you want. I don't know. It's crazy. The world's crazy. It's a good thing that we have this show, by the way. I wanted to remind everybody. So, contribute, please.

1:56:48 And I just want to mention there is a BlackBerry app for the show and that'll be listed in the links that rock section of the show notes at noagendashow.com. So now we have the trifecta, John. We have the iPhone, multiple apps for that. We have the Android, multiple apps. And now we have a BlackBerry app. By the way, I'd like to point out that the PocketNoAgenda was listed on What's Hot in the iTunes App Store. this past week, which means there should be a lot of sales. I must say that I have not seen anything come in in donations from the developer of said application, as far as I know. I think his name is Adam, Adam Burke.

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No Agenda Mobile Apps, Adam Burke Developer

The No Agenda show now has dedicated apps for iPhone, Android, and BlackBerry. Adam Curry notes that the "Pocket No Agenda" app was featured on the iTunes "What's Hot" list. However, he expresses concern that the developer, Adam Burke, has not yet shared a portion of the proceeds as previously discussed.

blackberry· iphone· android· itunes· adam burke· zune

1:55:53 No US citizen has ever been on the CIA's target list, which mainly names al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden, according to current or former US officials. But that is expected to change as CIA analysts compile a case against the Muslim cleric who was born in New Mexico but now resides in Yemen. And the way they do this, we find this because it was a great line. You know, they don't take this lightly. They actually have lawyers look at it before they decide to kill somebody. Yeah, they have to vet the killing. They put lawyers on it just to make sure that it's okay. It's nuts. It's totally nuts. You can just kill whoever you want. I don't know. It's crazy. The world's crazy. It's a good thing that we have this show, by the way. I wanted to remind everybody. So, contribute, please.

1:56:48 And I just want to mention there is a BlackBerry app for the show and that'll be listed in the links that rock section of the show notes at noagendashow.com. So now we have the trifecta, John. We have the iPhone, multiple apps for that. We have the Android, multiple apps. And now we have a BlackBerry app. By the way, I'd like to point out that the PocketNoAgenda was listed on What's Hot in the iTunes App Store. this past week, which means there should be a lot of sales. I must say that I have not seen anything come in in donations from the developer of said application, as far as I know. I think his name is Adam, Adam Burke.

1:57:34 I don't know, I'll have to look in the... Because you know what, I will say when people say, hey, you know, I'm going to give you a portion of the proceeds and we promote it, we do kind of expect you to follow through. So I'm not pointing fingers yet, but I am keeping my eye on it. Yeah, at some point we may have to do our own. So the Zune, what about the Zune? I don't think they have apps. I think they just take RSS feeds. Oh, okay. What about the Zune? Hey, John, way to go on the tech tip, my friend. You know all about this stuff, don't you? Zune. Yeah, you're just awesome. You're gonna have a Zune phone soon. Yeah, running Windows Mobile 29, I'm sure. Oh, shoot. I forgot to play the Miley Cyrus clip. What's a Miley Cyrus clip?

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Miley Cyrus Today Show Performance, Vocal Quality Critique

A clip of Miley Cyrus singing live on the *Today Show* outside the GE building is played to demonstrate poor vocal quality. The hosts describe the performance as "fake" and compare it unfavorably to the "Pants on the Ground" viral video. They suggest that modern pop stars lack actual talent and rely on studio production.

miley cyrus· today show· ge building· live singing· american idol

1:58:25 Well, it was her... What? Well, why don't we just run it on the next show? You can tease it. No, because everyone will have seen it by then. Well, then stop the music and play the clip. Or play the clip at the end of our sign-off. Okay, yeah, you're right. Let me get back to the... Okay, yeah. It was Miley Cyrus on the Today Show. You know, I really want to hear your reaction to it though. I want to play it now. No, I want to stop the music and play the clip. I just want you to hear it. It's one of these singing sensations. It's just so worth it. You have to hear how she sings live. And this went out on the air on the Today Show. I think she was doing... I don't know what track she was doing. Here it comes. So she's getting the announcement. This is outside the GE building in New York City where they did their live shot.

1:59:13 You really gotta hear this. If nothing, it'll lift our spirits after all that crap news. I'm on the top of the planet, LAX, with a dream like a heart again. Welcome to the land of fame, except, ho, am I gonna make it in? I jumped in the cab, here I am for the first time. Look to my right and I see the Hollywood sign. This is all so crazy, everybody seems so famous. What are- what is this?

2:00:10 And this kid in the audience going like what? It's a party in the USA. It's me looking out in my taxi cab, everybody's looking at me now. Like, oh, that chick, that's a rockin' chick. So I just... Well, her career's done, unless that's an imposter. No, no, no, it's really her, and she's on stage with all her dancers and everything. It's just, if you have kids who like Miley Cyrus, show this to them, so they understand that it's all fake.

2:00:49 It's fake, okay? These kids can't sing, they suck. Listen. This is like one of the worst jokers they put on that American Idol show just to make fun of them. I'm telling you. And in fact, the pants on the ground guy is more real than this. This is an outrage. An outrage. It's an outrage! Alright. Okay, jeez. Okay, so, um... I betcha she gets more donations than we do. Oh, pfft. This is the sick, twisted nature of it. Well, we've brought you quite a lot of information today, that's for sure. Too much. Yeah. And if we had another day in the week, we could actually spread it out and go in-depth into some of this stuff. We just gloss over, like, false flag attacks, people being shot, gates of houses being rammed down with tanks... Pfft. Pfft.

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Episode 170 Outro, Sign-off and Next Show Tease

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude episode 170, mentioning they didn't have time to cover "Climate Gate." They reiterate the need for listener donations and provide the show's URLs. The hosts sign off from the Crackpot Command Center and announce the next "early service" broadcast for the following Thursday.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· climate gate· donations

2:00:10 And this kid in the audience going like what? It's a party in the USA. It's me looking out in my taxi cab, everybody's looking at me now. Like, oh, that chick, that's a rockin' chick. So I just... Well, her career's done, unless that's an imposter. No, no, no, it's really her, and she's on stage with all her dancers and everything. It's just, if you have kids who like Miley Cyrus, show this to them, so they understand that it's all fake.

2:00:49 It's fake, okay? These kids can't sing, they suck. Listen. This is like one of the worst jokers they put on that American Idol show just to make fun of them. I'm telling you. And in fact, the pants on the ground guy is more real than this. This is an outrage. An outrage. It's an outrage! Alright. Okay, jeez. Okay, so, um... I betcha she gets more donations than we do. Oh, pfft. This is the sick, twisted nature of it. Well, we've brought you quite a lot of information today, that's for sure. Too much. Yeah. And if we had another day in the week, we could actually spread it out and go in-depth into some of this stuff. We just gloss over, like, false flag attacks, people being shot, gates of houses being rammed down with tanks... Pfft. Pfft.

2:01:55 We didn't even get to the climate gate. No, well that gives people something to look forward to. Right. Noagendashow.com, Dvorak.org slash NA for your donations as well as channel Dvorak.com slash NA. Please consider us. We need some help. Until next time, in Gitmo Nation West in the Crackpot Command Center, San Francisco, California, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is out again, I don't know, this weather's weird, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back Thursday for early service, 9 o'clock, right here on NO Agenda.