Episode 1612 · Wednesday, 6 December 2023

Global Donut

A defiant Elon Musk dares advertisers to bankrupt X as the intelligence community takes the lead on Middle East hostage negotiations.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1612

About this episode

Elon Musk, Andrew Ross Sorkin, and Bob Iger dominated the news cycle following a volatile interview at the New York Times DealBook Summit. Musk delivered a profane ultimatum to advertisers attempting to leverage financial pressure against the X platform, specifically naming Disney's Iger while suggesting that a potential bankruptcy would be the fault of the boycotting brands. The confrontation highlights a deepening rift between the billionaire and the legacy media establishment over free speech and corporate influence.

CIA Director Bill Burns is now operating as a primary negotiator in the Israel-Hamas hostage crisis, a move that signals a shift in traditional intelligence roles. Meanwhile, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer warned of a five-alarm fire regarding anti-Semitism on American campuses as the House Committee on Education prepares to grill the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and UPenn. In the tech sector, CISA Director Jen Easterly issued warnings about software insecurity following a Cyber Avengers hack on a Pennsylvania water system, while Weight Watchers CEO Seema Sistani pivoted the company toward obesity care management using GLP-1 drugs like Mounjaro and Ozempic.

Henry Kissinger’s passing sparked a wave of dark humor regarding adrenochrome shortages and the end of a globalist era. Between discussions of the Donut Economy and Amazon using diesel generators to charge electric Rivian vans, the show celebrated cement truck driver Jeff Hannes for saving a choking woman. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak presided over a massive PhD graduation ceremony for the No Agenda faithful.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Kissinger Death, Adrenochrome Claims, and UC Berkeley Donor Anecdote

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show by noting the death of Henry Kissinger, jokingly linking it to an adrenochrome shortage. They discuss the "Great Reset" in the context of recent deaths of global figures like Queen Elizabeth II and Charlie Munger. Dvorak shares an anecdote about a former UC Berkeley donor, Bill Bartt, who stopped contributing to the university due to its political spending and the repurposing of a building originally donated for a humor magazine.

henry kissinger· adrenochrome· queen elizabeth ii· charlie munger· uc berkeley· bill bartt· alumni donations

00:00 I love pop-up bagels. Celebrating our PhDs and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6, In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're saying RIP Henry Kissinger That means it's the end of the adrenochrome shortage I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill Are you telling me that Kissinger was hoarding the adrenochrome?

00:42 But this guy must have been using most of it. Most of the world's supply! Whoa, well that I did not expect from you but i'm all in on it It's uh...you know when you think about it The Great Reset-I keep saying you know the Queen is gone Kissinger has gone Charlie Munger's gone The Pope is sick We're almost at the great reset Yeah, well I think those guys are all responsible for it so maybe the Great Reset won't happen. Well a great reset maybe not the one they're expecting... Maybe not that one. I have to ask you question right off the bat we were at a dinner and i met a guy No! You shouldn't give me your money Who was a huge donor and alum of UC Berkeley Okay

01:42 and he's about your age, and he was you know big in the sports and donated tons of money. And he no longer donates I'm not giving any more to those nut jobs." They say by any chance do you know John C. Dvorak? Oh! Of course iIdo Bill Bartt. Bill Bartt B-A-R-T-T He's a wine guy, he's into sailing I may have met a guy named Bill Bart. Well he was like, oh of course! He never shows up, he never calls, he never writes. Well surprise surprise... Next time i see him say hey man John's all pissed off you're never right you never show up Never calls, never write You never come to the alumni meetings

02:29 It was just, it was one of those... I actually you know they used to solicit me constantly and then my original thing was if you're a Cal graduate you've learned how to tell people not no. Which is something they teach ya! And so i used to say well you know the problem is Earl Anthony produced this building and gave it to the university and had to be for all For the end of time, it had to be used for a humor magazine. It was used to house the California Pelican and then out of the blue I don't know in the 80s or something just took the building and turned it into something else Oh yeah! And they stole the building from this guy who donated it Of course if the guys long dead so they don't care They do this all the time All those universities do it

03:14 I mean, they take people's names off of things as you know. Oh yeah! And so that kind of almost worked but it didn't quite work until they called one year and then I haven't heard since...I have not heard one call since Do you think? They called me and said, you know alumni we need money Yeah do you think they've heard our show maybe like just take him off the list and you said what? Well, I was looking at the money that Cal is donating politically and they gave $1 million to the Barack Obama campaign. If you can give that kind of money away you don't need my money and they never called since. Surprise surprise who would have thunk?

03:58 Yeah, Bill Billy I think he called. He said yeah you know last time it was there you know they need new uniforms with the volleyball team i gave him cash and said i'm not going to put it into the coffers you'll never get it here's cash! That's probably true that was probably true yeah I say right have you heard our show we always accept cash Cash is good. But checks are easier to account for, you know, a bunch of money flying around. So just like we got kind of like an early warning from Richard Haass about Ukraine and Russia about that winding down

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

CIA Director Bill Burns and Israel-Hamas Hostage Negotiations

The discussion shifts to CIA Director Bill Burns' direct involvement in hostage negotiations between Israel and Hamas. Analyzing a CBS News report by Olivia Gazis, the hosts critique the "spook" persona of intelligence reporters and the description of Burns as a "negotiating utility knife." They also examine Benjamin Netanyahu's appearance on Mark Levin's show, where he framed the conflict as a battle between civilization and barbarism involving the "axis of terror."

bill burns· cia· hamas· israel· olivia gazis· mossad· benjamin netanyahu· hostage negotiations

04:42 I think I may have, not quite to that level but I have a signal that...I don't know if it's been discussed that much but CBS has this new reporter, you know intelligence reporter who is complete spook. You know she's got that spook face she's blonde long blonde hair she has a very hard time looking straight ahead at the person she's talking to so she keeps looking down with you. Yeah yeah that's yeah and spookers do that too okay let me mark that one

05:20 I can't remember, John. But you're probably right and she's just a total spook and I've never seen her before maybe you have? She's on CBS and she brings us the news that our director of CIA is now getting directly involved in the hostage negotiations which to me means one of two things or possibly both The Biden administration has pulled the ripcord like this has got to stop because the genocide Joe thing is out of control. Totally out of control and possibly that CIA is responsible for all malaise around the world and then the CIA controls all of this crap but you know hold on, the CIA not wanting Biden to come back

06:09 might be behind genocide Joe. There you go well let's listen to oh can you imagine that your so right at least one section of the CIA? Well lets listen to this because there is a couple interesting little tidbits in this and I typically wouldn't start off with the Israel-Hamas conflict, but this just it came in this morning like I got to talk to John about it. CBS News intelligence and national security reporter Olivia Gazis joins us now. Sure well there's lots of moving parts here Nancy but broadening the pool of hostages eligible for release is one of the key components that the U.S. and Burns

06:44 is pushing for here. Specifically, that means extending in future agreements the eligibility to men and soldiers which make up some if not most of the American hostages that continue to be held by Hamas." Okay right off the bat, men and soldiers? Which is most of the hostages held by Hamas? Soldiers are soldiers! Men are these agents or these advisors what do you think this is I think they're changing the narrative Sounds like all the women are out now, I guess according to the spook lady. It's a tough sell Hamas has not shown any indication that it's open to this kind of arrangement in previous talks But one of the bargaining chips on the table were told is Israel may boost the ratio Of Palestinian prisoners at its releasing in order to secure more

07:35 hostages. So thus far the ratio had been 3 to 1 or 150 for the 50 hostages that have come out to date and we could see that ratio boosted in Hamas's favor in order to cajole the release of these more tightly held hostages including men and soldiers. This is, this it's all weird You know, we up the ratio from three to one. And doesn't this sound like some kind of important guy exchange that is going on here? And who are all these Palestinian detainees that Israel has?" Well that's the ones, the same women and children that they grabbed from the West Bank and elsewhere who threw a rock at a soldier. And they threw him in jail. Including men and soldiers? That's really interesting because right now the ceasefire is supposed to lift on Thursday morning why send the CIA director to run for office on this negotiation? It's a great question.

08:30 Now I know she's a spook for sure. Thursday morning, why send the CIA director to run point on this negotiation? It's a great question. Bill Burns has been deployed by this administration as sort of behind the scenes. Deployed! He's been deployed as sort of behind-the-scenes. Negotiating utility knife and some of the... A utility knife?! He's like a Swiss Army knife. He is negotiating utility knife. Yes, that what you want. Sort of behind the scenes on negotiating utility knife and some of the thorniest geopolitical snares. Is he going to use the corkscrew or more the tweezers? I mean which you know, or is it a Leatherman that also has a vice You put on the nuts.

09:30 It was, okay. Wow this guy has quite the record! So he's really been working behind the scenes and now you know he has been a veteran diplomat He's got a wealth of contacts, he's got a lot of gravitas in the region Gravitas? He's now got the added benefit as an intelligence chief Of working behind the scenes in relative obscurity which some of these really tough deals require In order to break through He's also meeting with counterparts from Israel and Egypt, who similarly have a lot of influence in clout in their respective countries and regions. And so that's why there is hope that this group of stakeholders—in again relative obscurity—can make some real headway here. And he has got deep ties in Israel as well? That's right yes. And dealing with the Mossad director that he knows very well is an added bonus here. What's his name?

10:17 Who the Mossad director? Yeah, I don't know. What'd they say? Well, this is a Mossad director yeah and MD Mossad director he has gravitas in the region Gravitas mission go clean it up so I think some signals gone out and BB's not a part of this And in fact Bb is sunk so low He went on Mark Levin show on Fox Go ahead go ahead say it the great one and said the following We're destroying their infrastructure their command post the rockets there underground tunnels And we're gonna win because we have to win This is a battle of the forces of civilization against the forces of barbarism, and if barbarism wins in our part of the world Europe will be next and America will be next because the axis of

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Organ Theft Allegations and Women's Rights Silence

Turkish Radio Television (TRT) reports on allegations of organ theft by the Israeli army at Al-Shifa hospital, a claim the hosts find medically dubious. They contrast this with a clip from The View discussing Sheryl Sandberg’s criticism of women's groups and the UN for their silence regarding sexual violence on October 7th. Additionally, they mock the Oakland City Council for attempting to pass an anti-Hamas resolution amidst chaotic public testimony.

trt· organ theft· al-shifa hospital· sheryl sandberg· united nations· oakland city council· hamas resolution

11:09 of terror, of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and their other minions will imperil the Middle East. Wait a minute! The Houthis and the other minions? Are the minions now part of the axis of terror?! ...and then spread their barbarism to the entire world Israel is fighting our war but it's also fighting America's war It's fighting your war And our victory will be your victory. Yeah, let's draw the line there BB Let's draw the line there You're not fighting our war now for him to go on live in to say that I think he's lost all gravitas in the region Was it live in radio or no? Fox Fox Fox Fox over the weekend show love in his two shows on the weekends I don't think a lot of people watch that

11:58 No, nobody was weekend Fox. No nobody's watching the Fox at all so something is changing here and Yeah And and this is pretty desperate of him to say this and they saved the Hooties in their minions come on The Hooties are gonna now attack us and I find it sketchy sketchy and then Of course we need to up the propaganda everywhere. TRT, Turkish radio television love those guys! They've got a new one... The Israeli army is being accused of organ theft in Palestine's Gaza A report by the Yeremet Human Rights Monitor expressed concern over allegations that the Israeli army confiscated dozens of dead bodies from Al-Shifa and Indonesian hospital in northern Gaza as well as from the safe corridor Israel had implemented and subsequently targeted

12:52 The report suggests that the Israeli army took Palestinian bodies from a mass grave in one of Al-Shifa's courtyards, a claim backed by the director general of the health ministry in Gaza, Mounir Elbouch. Euromid monitors says suspicions of organ theft were based on evidence cited by medical professionals in al Shifa this included claims of missing cochleas and corneas as well as other vital organs like you can't I know happened a little bit about uh ear and eyes. You can't take someone from who's been under the ground or something good story more than a few hours old you've got to immediately grab that stuff you'd be brand new but no livers kidneys and hearts but then livers and kidneys and hearts and toenails also said that the claims cannot be proven or disproven solely by medical examination let's report it anyway patients underwent surgery before their death

13:45 Allegations that the Israeli army stole corpses during a siege of the medical complex have been reported by several other outlets. However, this is not the first time Israel has been accused of organ theft." Yeah it's beautiful so to counter that now the view because we've got to counter the narrative this... We've got to confuse everybody and we'll get to him in a moment obviously we've sent Elon out to distract from everything, heal on the Jew hater. But The View steps it up a little bit gives a little gravitas in the region to the Israelis I am still devastated where two months since this war has been underway by the silence from women's group in this country about that rape being used as an act of war and this attack. The fact that sexual violence was used against Israeli women in the major women's groups in this country have not come out and denounced it This weekend Sheryl Sandberg put out a gripping video calling for it

14:37 That violates every rule of warfare. It is the height of immorality and the fact that United Nations entity for gender equality and women empowerment has been silent, UN Committee on elimination discrimination against women has been silent in the international Me Too movement. Oh it's no good! Just No Good!! It's no good. Everybody is all trying to move it away from Genocide Joe. Yeah, I could have gotten a Sheryl Sandberg clip she goes on and on... Ah! I didn't see it. I would have enjoyed that. Oh yeah, there are two things which I don't have which should've got one I did have but I don't know why they didn't post it

15:14 Is the Oakland City Council going nuts? Oh, because they were gonna pay I don't know why the city councils do this but they're gonna pass an anti Hamas resolution. We hate Hamas like like they're in Oakland Every idiot in the Bay Area comes to the city council meeting wearing the scarf Palestinian scarf and screaming at the city council saying you can't do this. The kiffieh, kiffieh, kiffieh! This whole thing is a scam and it IDF shot those Israelis the IDF and they blamed their whole things giant conspiracy we're being suckered into one person after another and all wearing masks of course Kiffiyeh in masks that's perfect

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Elon Musk, X Advertising Boycott, and New York Times DealBook Summit

Elon Musk's controversial interview with Andrew Ross Sorkin is analyzed, specifically his profane message to advertisers attempting to "blackmail" him with money. Musk suggests that if X fails, the public will blame the advertisers like Disney's Bob Iger. The hosts debate whether Musk is intentionally signaling to the military-industrial complex or if he is prepared to let the company go bankrupt to restructure it.

elon musk· x· andrew ross sorkin· bob iger· disney· advertising boycott· dealbook summit

16:04 Yeah, perfect. So it's kind of nuts is very funny though so then and I'm really I really have to Jacques you know? I really think that this was so well timed by him To go to Israel Trounce around you know i'm so sorry I made a mistake And I mean he's just been fantastic clips of Elon we just have to play some of this because first of all It solidifies my prediction he will ruin Twitter, that's for sure. It won't be the same but first an ABC report that kind of summarizes it all. This morning Elon Musk is apologizing for endorsing an anti-semitic conspiracy theory on a social media platform X

16:51 It might be literally the worst and dumbest post that I've ever done. Speaking to The New York Times, a world's richest man had a message for the companies who pulled ads from his platform telling them don't advertise and using an expletive multiple times to emphasize this point You don't want them to advertise? No What do you mean? If somebody is going to try blackmail me with advertising Blackmailing with money Musk has faced mounting criticism after he agreed with a user on X who falsely claimed Jewish people are stoking hatred against white people. Musk saying the user was saying the actual truth amid the fallout, Musk visited Israel. That is by the way is it complete mischaracterization of what happened but I guess musk is all in on it now very extensively three shows ago mischaracterization of what what the tweet was about or what he said but that

17:44 is irrelevant because Musk is just... Because the truth is in the eye of the beholder. Yeah, exactly. The actual truth amid the fallout. Musk visited Israel touring a village where dozens of people were killed on October 7th. The trip to Israel was independent it wasn't some like apology tour The controversy could reportedly... No, Joe told me to go. We're gonna stop the genocide Joe stuff wasn't an apology tour! Cost X up to 75 million dollars in lost ad revenue by the end of... Did she say seventy five million? Should be seventy five billion shouldn't it be? Seventy-five million that's nothing. It is a jump change. $75 million in lost ad revenue by the end of the year

18:30 Actually, what this advertising boycott is gonna do it's going to kill the company. They're gonna say Elon that you killed the company because you said these things and they were inappropriate things and they didn't feel comfortable on the platform right? That's what they are gonna say Let see how Earth responds to that It comes as Musk launches the long awaited Tesla Cybertruck today Oh my f***ing god Four years after a prototype was unveiled, its distinct look drawing mixed reactions. Its so-called armored glass proving to be anything but. Many experts say the polarizing vehicle... I know they went straight into this that they're taking him down! That's a chicken shit situation. No it is beautiful! This is hilarious he doesn't care as hilarious

19:21 Many experts say the polarizing vehicle could be another dent in the company's bottom line. Electric vehicle sales have stalled in the US and Consumer Reports found EVs have 79% more reliability problems than gas cars. So we'll get to that because that's funny by itself. Not only is I think the entire war being blamed on Elon, but also the decline of EVs is being blamed on him. Everything is his fault! Everything is Elon's fault now so I had to pull three clips from this interview that he did at The New York Times Dealbook Summit you know gleefully covered by CNBC

20:07 Because everyone, especially the CNBC people Andrew Ross Sorkin is now analyzing Elon. And I'm just going to stick by my prediction, like he doesn't care about advertisers. He wants everybody to stay engaged, stay on the platform until he turns it into a bank that's right. I agree with that. That's what he's doing. So here's how that rolled out with Andrew Ross Sorkin on stage with a little less bleeping than ABC did. What was that trip like? And obviously... By the way, did you see the flak jacket he had on walking around

20:44 It was like a baby flak jacket. It only covered his chest, to his midriff I mean his whole stomach and groin was exposed. He's like you might as well not have one Yeah you think he would have something more like even a catcher thing? Yeah yeah that's what you want but no no he had just this little breastplate very odd What was that trip like and obviously there is public perception And your clarifying this now But there's a public perception that was part of an apology tour, if you will. This had been said online, there was all of the criticism, there were advertisers leaving... We talked to Bob Iger today- I hope they stop! You hope? Don't advertise. You don't want them to advertise? No What do you mean? If somebody is going to try and blackmail me with advertising, blackmailing with money, go f*** yourself

21:40 But go f*** yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is Hey Bob, if you're in the audience Well let me ask you then That's how i feel Don't advertise Actually what this advertising boycott is gonna do It's gonna kill the company And you think that the whole world will know That those advertisers killed company and we will document it in great detail Hold on before we continue with this clip. So he's saying the whole world will know that they killed the company I mean, the first thing came to my mind is perfect declare bankruptcy He buys out of bankruptcy turns it into a bank

22:30 Is that within the realm of possibility? No, I don't think it's going to go that far. This is just an idle threat because nothing is going... Everyone knows that the military industrial complex and the intelligence agencies specifically use the platform They need Twitter. They need Twitter and this not gonna get killed but It's kind of a roundabout threat to Disney and others If you kill the company, somebody's gonna kill you. Yeah I think that's a good analysis yeah in an offhanded way yeah no so then he goes on

23:07 But those advertisers I imagine are going to say, they're gonna say we didn't kill the company. Oh yeah? They're gonna say... Tell it to Earth! They're gonna say that you... I love the grandioseness of it. Tell it to Earth man! I'm gonna use that. Talk to earth! Hey man, I think kids should use that. You took the cookies from the cookie jar. Oh yeah?! Tell it to earth! That you killed the company because you said these things and that they were inappropriate things, and that they didn't feel comfortable on the platform. That's what they're gonna say. And let's see how Earth responds to that. Okay then this goes back to... I love Andrew Ross Sorkin who is taking this all seriously? The guy has zero sense of humor. Zero! Classic New York Times guy Oh yeah, yeah, blech, bleh

23:56 something that, okay. Then this goes back to- We'll both make our cases and we'll see what the outcome is What are the economics of that for you? I mean you have enormous resources so you can actually keep this company going for a very long time Would you keep it going for a long time if there was no advertising I mean if the company fails because of an advertised boycott, it will fail because of an advertised boycott and that will be what bankrupts the company. And that's what everybody on earth will know. What do you think then? This goes back to the idea trust though... Then i'll be gone! It'll be gone because of an advertised boycott But but you recognize that Wow I think you're right

24:35 He is really signaling like, oh really? Really you guys want to kill this valuable asset valuable to my true customers the military industrial complex and the US government. Really? Watch you guys get a little call from The White House I think that's what he said! I think they're right about that But but you recognize that some of those people are gonna say That they didn't feel comfortable on the platform And i just wonder and ask you and think about that Tell it to the judge But the judge is going to be... The judge is the public. The judge is the public, ah it's beautiful! This is hilarious so then I'm going to let me see then I have to play these other two clips before we can get to the best part which is Andrew Ross Sorkin doing an analysis later of Elon So now it gets into AI which of course you know you might as well

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Andrew Ross Sorkin's Psychoanalysis of Elon Musk

The hosts mock Andrew Ross Sorkin's post-interview analysis on the NBC Today show, where he attempts to psychoanalyze Musk's "demons" and "demonic side." They criticize Sorkin's claim that Musk was "grappling" with trust issues and dismiss the recurring media narrative regarding Musk's control over Starlink and its impact on global affairs.

andrew ross sorkin· elon musk· nbc today show· psychoanalysis· starlink· ukraine

33:28 To talk about his extraordinary because Elon you must use the f-word mmM. Oh, no oh yes You we had to bleep it out is so bad for children and but you know Andrew Ross Sorkin I mean keep this is your now news journalists as the news let's bring in the man of the hour And who led that conversation? He's a man of the hour Journalist talking to journalist, always the best. The man of the hour! Musk at the New York Times Dealbook Summit. Hello Andrew. So I mean what did you make about... You've covered Elon Musk a long time here he is in the middle this fire advertisers fleeing his company X formerly known as Twitter Thanks for reminding us and then he has some um he does not mince words shall we say?

34:11 It was fascinating. I was speechless when he made those remarks, the ones that have gone viral. No you weren't! I do encourage people to see the whole thing because in many ways...I think you got to see the full Elon Musk? I think you saw that Elon Musk is many people. You can see Einstein and sort of Steve Jobs version of Elon Musk. You can see almost a demonic version of Elon Musk and the idea is-the question is People hold all of these ideas in their head and can they be in the same person? What was so interesting to me was he kept saying I don't care if I am Loved or I'm hated but what I kept trying to get back to you was he didn't say that He didn't say that at all. I watched the whole thing You didn't save that he said, okay if you advertise But okay what I kept trying to get back to you is do you care about being trusted?

34:56 Because ultimately the advertisers need to trust you, the folks who are going to get in your vehicles need to trust you. The government that's paying for SpaceX putting these rockets in needs to trust you and we were trying to grapple with that and he was trying to grapple with it He was trying to grapple with that? I didn't hear that in any of the clips you played or what i heard when i listened to parts of it. But, also he would say he was making this up. You would say he was grappling with that not he was trying to grapple with it That's that's just what he said was trying to grapple with. Yeah, listen. Putting these rockets need to trust you and we were trying to grapple about with that and he was trying to grapple with that Trying to grapple with that? What does the word grapple even mean? Grapple

35:48 Let's look it up. It is the question on our minds here, why was he trying to grapple or was he grappling? Well if he was trying to grapple he was trying to grip or seize as in a wrestling match or he was using a tool consisting of several hooks for grasping and holding often thrown with a rope I don't think it was either one of those. So let's continue with the next genius analysis from Andrew Ross Sorkin We talked about demonic, the demonic side. He talked about his... Demonic? What happened to the digital god?! Well you talked about demonic, the demonic side he talked about his own demons like what did you glean about that part of him Oh get ready! He talked about his demons Look i think a lot of what

36:36 What drives him in very good ways and bad ways is a childhood, I mean there was a moment where he was almost crying during this interview. Where you could really see the demons that power a lot of this and it's sad. There is a depression under it. I don't want to... Analyze him, yes. Oh my god what's he a psychoanalyst now? Yes he is! I don't want to say too much about and I can't diagnose it myself but there is something that that is driving him and in many ways its productive and other ways less productive. Well done Andrew. That was riveting that analysis. He was almost crying on my bench. I'm Andrew Roth-Thorkin! We're talking about the world richest man

37:21 $225 billion and his contributions to modern society are undeniable in so many ways. To your point, you've covered him for a long time. How do you think it plays out? I mean how does this where does this go from here for Elon Musk? Does he tank X? Does it get sold as like how do you know? He likes to say he doesn't care and He cares. He cares a lot, you can see it! You can physically see how much he cares so... He says he doesn't care but I-he does care i can see it! I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin! I think look..I think you're gonna say... I think LOOK! Wait? I THINK LOOK?! I Think Look this is good! Is that show title? I Think Look? I Think Look!

38:03 I think it might be. He cares a lot, you can see it! You can physically see how much he cares so... I think look.. I think you're gonna see great and amazing things happen along the way. Hold on a second this is the future teller he's from Andrew Roth- I'm from the future! I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin! Great things are coming I tell you just pay attention to me Andrew Ross Sorkin! I think you're going to see great and amazing things happen along the way and I also imagine you're going to see other things like, and maybe X will ultimately fail. I don't know but i think he's gonna try his heart to get this thing to work. In a way it is the least of it. You know what I mean? X either succeeds or doesn't succeed. You are talking about somebody who has enormous influence in global affairs including things such as the war in Ukraine because its his satellite system that can turn on or turn off. Oh please not that rubric! This is my favorite!

38:59 keep doing that even though he sold that into, you know what is it? The military version which stays on wherever the US military wants it on. Please are able to fight or not but we talked about that the power that he has and leverage interesting because he has all that leverage in these physical systems that he owns but he doesn't have that leverage in

39:37 There are these feelings that people have and they're complicated. And I think being able to see that, we often don't have that opportunity so it was interesting. So I'm the best! This you want to see feelings? Watch me! I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin What a douchebag! But it was very entertaining just for...I mean That's the best kind of entertainment is when the people on stage don't realize how entertaining they are And this whole Starlink thing, that seems to probably have been the main reason for Elon to go into Israel. For another sale! No...

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Chuck Schumer and Congressional Investigations into Campus Anti-Semitism

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer warns of a "five-alarm fire" regarding rising anti-Semitism in the U.S. and at top universities. The House Committee on Education and the Workforce is set to hold hearings with the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and UPenn. The hosts argue that the Democratic party is now facing blowback from activist groups they previously encouraged.

chuck schumer· anti-semitism· harvard· mit· university of pennsylvania· department of education

41:47 the hostage thing, whatever the hell's going on. It might be worth playing but first let's play Chuck Schumer. Oh Chucky! What does Chuck have to do with it? He's concerned about all the Jew hate that's going on in the United States because of the Palestinian protesters which are organized by some radicals of various sorts left and right. It's a problem, which is again... Previously I would say Chuck Schumer would be responsible for the encouragement of these folks But now that they've turned out to be Jew haters, man. This is no good! A5 alarm fire that must be extinguished Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer warning the nation of a dangerous rise in anti-Semitism. This says lawmakers are now investigating possible anti-semitism at America's top universities I love how they keep going after the universities it's your Black Lives Matter crew bro

42:46 It's who you activated during Trump, that's who it is. NTD's Arian Postar has the story I feel compelled to speak because i'm the highest ranking Jewish elected official in America King of the Jews! Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday addressing the rise in anti-Semitism in the US. I couldn't resist, I'm sorry. Is that not what he said? It's literally what... Not literally but that is what he says In two weeks after the attacks by Hamas, The Anti-Defamation League reports an almost 400% increase in anti-semitic incidents over the same period last year

43:22 Schumer says he sees a stark contrast in the ways Jewish and non-Jewish people react to that increase. To us, the Jewish people, the rise of anti-Semitism is a crisis, a five alarm fire that must be extinguished. Five alarmer! He says that's because many American Jews have family members who suffered persecution first hand and they're now worried that history is repeating itself the majority leader also said anti-israel protesters often argue that Israel displaced 700,000 Palestinians but he said those same people never talk about their 600,000 Jews were displaced from Arab countries Schumer concluded with three appeals to the American people

44:08 learn the history of the Jewish people, reject anti-Semitic double standards and understand why Jews defend Israel. At the same time lawmakers in the house are investigating Harvard, MIT and the University of Pennsylvania that's over allegations of anti-semitism on their campuses because of that the presidents of those three schools will testify before a House committee at a congressional hearing next week. Oh goody goody! Yeah, we get Jew hate in Congress. This is gonna be fun! I can't wait! It's gonna be great! So Harvard and MIT now too? Oh man this is... oh wow. We'll play the second half of this clip and then I got one more which is the University of California they're going after

44:51 At the same time, the Department of Education is opening an investigation into Harvard. That's to find out whether Harvard failed to respond to alleged harassment of students based on their national origin. However, the office made clear that it has so far found no evidence of wrongdoing." Yeah and remember... The Department of Education is also a human rights division of the government. Yeah they're human rights. This gonna be quite hilarious I don't know what these schools are going to do because they were They're the ones who created the situation at the behest of the Democrat Party. Yes! Let's be honest about it and the whole thing is now backfired on them It's like, it is...

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

UC Berkeley Lawsuit Regarding Zionist Speaker Bans

The Louis D. Brandeis Center is suing UC Berkeley, alleging the university failed to address anti-Semitism after student organizations banned Zionist speakers. The hosts discuss the legal distinction between protected speech and exclusionary conduct on campus, noting the irony compared to previous instances where conservative speakers like Milo Yiannopoulos were deplatformed.

uc berkeley· zionism· louis d. brandeis center· ken marcus· first amendment· exclusionary policies

45:32 It's biblical. It's so good! It is hilarious, but let's play UC Berkeley sued this is the end of their there was a lead into this but let's go right into the clip. UC Berkeley and the UC system are accused of letting anti-semitism go unchecked. Jewish advocacy organizations allege that student groups prohibit speakers who support a Jewish state NTD's David Lam speaks with the attorney who is suing the university. Ken Marcus, chairman of the Louis D Brandeis Center and former assistant secretary for education for civil rights thank you for joining us your non-profit organization is suing UC Berkeley and the UC system claiming that it has long standing unchecked anti semitism on campus

46:17 So how did this start? We take no pleasure in bringing the lawsuit. We would prefer that they simply comply with their legal requirements This lawsuit is about the failure of the University of California to address anti-semitism on its campus Certainly over the last year and a half hold on a second I need to ask you question this being in the United States of America where we have a First Amendment Is anti-Semitism, is that illegal in America? Anti-Semitic speech. I don't...as far as speech is concerned it may not be illegal based on the First Amendment but these schools are signed onto certain provisions

47:05 standards that they have to follow and one of them is did not be you know Not bigoted. Not be against Joe I mean... Not be bigoted, but the thing that DeKalb they keep isolating in these statements is there's a Zionist or one or two Zionists organizations on this campus who want to have meetings and give speeches They won't let him And so that is like, I think it's the crux of this. Ah okay! That's exclusionary and that goes... Exclusionary right? Yeah okay alright, that I got you okay but as just a small aside when it was

47:44 Milo, when it was Ben Shapiro or whoever wanted to go speak at a university campus and they were forbidden to do that. We didn't hear these guys. I think that's part of this... By the way, I think this guy when he says a long-standing history? I think that will be included. Oh interesting! Because the Milo and Shapiro thing, and I think there was a couple other people. Coulter, I think she tried to speak there too And they were they shot her out of off the campus and burned down part of the ASUC building in In in the process I think it's mostly outsiders But is beside the point they have this issue and they have to solve it and so they're getting sued

48:24 Certainly over the last year and a half, starting with the decision by nine student organizations to exclude Zionists from speaking on any topic whatsoever before their organization. I understand that you receive many complaints from students so what are the students saying? We're hearing from students around the country, Jewish students are afraid now because they are feeling such an immense amount of hate since the Hamas atrocities of October 7. Now think about that in the wake of these atrocities in which a Jewish Israelis were tortured burned alive and some cases raped

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Pacific War Museum and Historical Speech Restrictions

A visit to the Pacific War Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas, prompts a discussion on Admiral Nimitz and the "loose lips sink ships" propaganda of World War II. The hosts reflect on how easily citizens surrender free speech rights during wartime and criticize the historical firebombing of Tokyo as a "senseless" act against civilians.

pacific war museum· admiral nimitz· fredericksburg· world war ii· free speech· propaganda

49:05 murdered their courts. Come on, you're some more in the wake of that groundswell of support for the perpetrators. The Berkeley situation is one sense typical or representative of what we're hearing all around the country but it is also one of those worst. One of the worse were number one finger number one baby. This kind of reminds me this whole First Amendment bit I went with a friend of mine, went to visit the Pacific War Museum. He's been here for eight years and has never been there so that is an outrage you got to go it is great museum because Admiral Nimitz was from Fredericksburg Texas and they have a great...I mean its very detailed. Nimitz was from Fredericksburg? Yeah yeah he is the famous son of Fredericksburg.

49:54 Wow. So they have the Nimitz Museum, the Pacific War Museum and you know my grandfather Renwick Eugene Curry was lieutenant commander and base commander at Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands so it was...and they have a whole...Marshall Islands there's not much we don't...you know when you think about World War II all you think is Hitler Jews Hiroshima boom that's it! There was a lot more going on A lot more And something that really....And they did a good job of this at the exhibit There was a term that I think it was President Roosevelt, is that right? I think it was Roosevelt. And it was loose lips sink ships and... Yeah, loose lips sink ships there's lot of posters you can get that have that saying on them Well there were restrictions on speech at that time

50:44 There were absolute restrictions placed by the government on speech and it's just, it kind of hit me like how easy we are you know especially when you see Rosie the Riveter! You know and all this incredible nationalistic patriotic propaganda. How people...how easily people give up their right to free speech And this is, it's bound to happen over and over and over again. An also I have to say what a senseless bunch of crap that whole thing was. Young men killing each other in the water and in the air! Oh my god... The whole thing just- did you? I mean this bombing of Tokyo?!

51:28 No one ever talks about the crap out of hundreds, hundreds of thousands. Civilians died now and they just kept bombing for months anyway. Yeah. And then the thought was a course we as a few incendiary bombs are good because Tokyo is built on the housing in Tokyo was still in paper and rice paper, rice paper and light wood. Yeah, that museum will give you a little different sense of what went on there. Anyway my point being that we as Americans are so susceptible to agreeing to restrictions by the government on our speech which is just illegal and wrong and that's not what we're built on You have the right to talk like a Nazi in America it's fine! That's...you got that right if that's what you want

52:19 The ACLU used to defend that. That's all over now. Those days are over! And it's really the best way because then you can just stand there and laugh at them, it's great but no... I have a... what is it? I don't think i have anything else other than, It's just all bad for Joe. And so we're distracting We've got a lot of you know we're changing the narrative to oh no these are all these students But its not just students Its this Antifa There's all kinds of rainbow people in there and they're all just against whatever they're supposed to be against

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

UN Report on Displacement in Democratic Republic of Congo

The United Nations reports that 450,000 people have been displaced in the Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo over the last six weeks due to violence between armed groups and government forces. The hosts note the lack of media attention and public interest in African humanitarian crises compared to other global conflicts.

democratic republic of congo· unhcr· displacement· human rights violations· africa

52:55 Not a single word about the 100,000 who die of opioids. Nothing about the Uyghurs nothing about anything that's happening in Africa How bout... In fact I do have one Africa clip we can play why is anyone saying anything about this? This isn't even being played! Because it's not the new new thing The UN says 450 thousand people have been displaced in Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo in the last six weeks It's blaming recent violence between armed groups and government forces in North Kebun province The UN refugee agency says it's monitoring the situation after 3,000 human rights violations were reported last month. That's nearly double the figure from September. No one cares! No one cares? They're not the same level people... Even our producers and listeners don't like talking about Africa. If they tune out- Ah another Africa clip I'd made that clip as short as i could Good work Everyone still here okay

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

CISA Director Jen Easterly on AI and Software Insecurity

Jen Easterly, Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), discusses the inherent insecurity of the internet and software. She argues that AI must be developed with "guardrails" to prevent ransomware and infrastructure attacks. The hosts criticize her background as a "globalist spook" and mock her assertion that software was never intended to be safe.

jen easterly· cisa· cybersecurity· ransomware· software safety· globalist· biden administration

53:53 Oh, we can't talk about Africa. That would be no good." Now I came across a 26-minute video of the homeless in Austin It's heartbreaking! It's just heartbreaking Downtown right near the hotels Everyone is partying living it up and there are thousands of homeless people And just like San Francisco... oh just step over them don't worry We're with Google. We moved ours No you guys did a good job Yeah, we moved them to LA where they belong. I want to go back to AI for just a second because there was something else that popped up on CTN, Canadian television and you know so whatever Elon is doing thank you Elon the AI danger has been set in motion the regulations because of you! We appreciate that but Jen Easterly

54:53 is our representative from CISA, the Cyber Infrastructure Security Administration. We're also or I should say are very involved with protecting our elections because why do it on paper? And so she shows up. Heaven forbid someone actually put a checkmark on paper and then you could we can't have that actually audit it, but we can't even audit the Pentagon let alone audit our own elections. Please stop. So, so she shows up and her whole job here is to talk about I guess she's doing the rounds and no one cares about her because Elon's out there. And this is...I'm starting to not like her a lot

55:41 But she's also full of crap. Miss Easterly, good to meet you I'll start with you. I thought maybe it would be helpful for the audience before we get into the solutions proposed if each of you could reflect on this threat as you see posed by AI? Yeah. Miss Easterly, I think we have to understand that AI is a form of information technology and the short history of information technology is frankly insecurity and so you think back to the internet It was never created to be secure I love it. Think back! Think back, John. To the creation of the Internet it was never created to be secure! So ultimately it's all been about speed to market and features and driving down costs for competition then really where its led us is an internet that's full of malware software thats full vulnerabilities What? Social media The internet has resulted in software thats full of vulnerabilities this is great Full of vulnerabilities

56:39 social media that's full of misinformation and disinformation. And now this next generation of AI, we have to make sure that it does not have the vulnerabilities that frankly have led to ransomware attacks across all critical infrastructure in businesses large and small. Wait a minute! So crappy A.I has led to ransomware attacks? That's what she just said. Did she I didn't hear her say that. Here I'll tell you the problem Whoever she is. She's she patterns rap rap rapid fires or Remarks, and I kind of zone out. I didn't miss that we must have been hypnotized stay with it vulnerabilities that frankly have led to yeah Yeah roll back a little further

57:24 We have to make sure that it does not have the vulnerabilities that frankly, have led to ransomware attacks across all critical infrastructure and businesses large and small. The Internet itself is... No, what she said was vulnerabilities like the kind of the internet that led to this. Yes It will happen with AI because we're not checking it for vulnerability. That's right And trillions of dollars lost to global cybercrime So the stakes are very high when you think about the power and the speed and the unpredictability of these tools

58:01 And so it really is significant that governments came together, 18 governments 23 agencies along with 20 companies of industry that provided substantive feedback to lay out these guidelines and guardrails. Guard rails! Now if we don't take care of this what will the future be like Jen? Last question to you I think so much of this sounds very technical even to myself i'm wondering if you can empower me on... Hold on Yes, I'm holding on. I heard absolutely nothing that seemed quote unquote very technical. Last question to you, so much of this sounds very technical even to myself, I'm wondering if you can impart on Canadians watching tonight what a scenario your trying to stop looks like? What is it in tangible layman's terms that your trying to prevent from happening? You have to think of AI as just a form of software

59:02 And we know that software was never created to be safe and secure. Is that true, John C. Dvorak? Long-term columnist and reporter on technology Not that I know of. It's why- They try to sell it as very secure, heaven forbid they're selling this junk that is. Software and we know that software was never created to be safe and secure We all know! Always created to be safe and secure No, no, we all know it was never created to be safe and secure Who is this woman? She couldn't probably code in a go-to loop

59:43 I have a clue, she's friends with Kara Swisher. ...of software and we know that software was never created to be safe and secure it's why we have ransomware attacks it's why we have data theft... No! Windows is why we have ransomware attacks windows specifically Microsoft It's why we have disruptions on things like pipelines it's why our energy grids are vulnerable so you can... What? Yes thats why we have yes This because of windows again, you got to back up all the way. Not to clip it. Okay. Jen is this person? Jen Easterly. Jen East. Well I'm going to look her up for someone you hate. You said you've learned to hate. I'm learning not to love her that much. Jen Easterly from the wiki is an American intelligence and former military official

1:00:38 who was serving as the director of cyber security and infrastructure security agency in the Biden administration. Raised in Potomac, Maryland went to the United States military academy Pembroke College Oxford Rhodes scholar says enough globalist and yeah she's a globalist spook I'm just but she probably just She probably never cut it as a spook, it seems to me. She doesn't get the chops But she's in charge of guardrails and in charge of the elections! Guardrail? Okay well let her be in charge that means nothing will happen. Data theft It's why we have disruptions on things like pipelines That's why our energy grids are vulnerable So you can think about AI As the most powerful technology Of

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Cyber Avengers Hack of Pennsylvania Water System

The "Cyber Avengers," a hacking group linked to Iran, targeted a water treatment substation in Aliquippa, Pennsylvania, because it used Israeli-made software. The hosts question why critical infrastructure like a local water pump is connected to the public internet, blaming administrative convenience for the vulnerability.

cyber avengers· aliquippa· pennsylvania· iran· water treatment· industrial control systems

1:01:30 frankly that we've ever seen being used by nefarious actors to Use them for offensive cyber purposes to destroy our critical infrastructure our water systems our energy systems Our financial systems you can think about using them to create biological weapons chemical weapons So we really only sure that governments and industry are working together To mitigate the risk of these capabilities being used from nefarious. Yes, so she specifically mentions water systems So I presume that this report will tell us that it is AI that is doing this. We begin with security concerns here at home stemming from the war in the Middle East. A computer hacking group with ties to Iran has reportedly targeted a water supply system in Pennsylvania and the group claims, This is just the beginning. Just the beginning! They're using AI! This morning a cybergroup backed by Iran is taking credit for breaching a water treatment plant in Pennsylvania

1:02:33 Their ability to infiltrate into industrial control systems and possibly disrupt or worse cause damage to our infrastructure is very, very concerning. According to the Beaver County newspaper- Turn off the internet! The Municipal Water Authority in Aliquippa says hackers partially took control of a substation Saturday shutting down a pump that supplies drinking water in Beaver County A message appeared on a pump reading you have been hacked Every equipment made in Israel is Cyber Avengers legal target. Water pressure in some areas was reportedly affected before workers enabled a backup system the cyber avengers hacking group is also accused of targeting 10 water treatment plants in Israel since the war against Hamas began

1:03:19 The Cyber Avengers are a hacking collective that is associated with Iran. They also are supportive of Palestine and ever since the conflict began, we have seen them proactively targeting anything associated with Israel. Experts say the Cyber Avengers group is becoming increasingly sophisticated federal authorities reportedly believe the group successfully successfully hacked four water treatment plants on the East Coast in recent days. All of them use software developed by an Israeli owned company. This group has expressed that this is just the beginning and we should be vigilant that future attacks might occur where they see opportunities. So Pennsylvania State Police say they are using a team of computer experts to investigate the hack. Yeah, I hope it's that Sisa lady

1:04:05 She'll figure it out. First of all, why is a water pump in Pennsylvania connected to the internet anyway? So because the sysadmin wants to do it from home Exactly we want some monitor the pumps from home Take these things off the net and you won't have any problems at all I just love Why does a local water supply company hooked their pumps to the internet. It makes no sense, it's stupid! Back to AI, I just want to remind everybody why AI is not real. It's not true it's not working its bogus because I will not believe in AI until it fixes my email spam Why isn't someone creating a large language model to do that? Email spam nothing what about these stupid phone calls I get from Steven

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

AI Failure in Email Spam and Sports Illustrated Scandal

The hosts argue that AI is "bogus" because it has failed to solve basic problems like email spam and telemarketing calls. They also reference the recent scandal involving Sports Illustrated using AI-generated authors and content, characterizing it as a failure of the technology to produce quality material.

email spam· google· sports illustrated· advertorials· large language models

1:05:03 The Benghazi's guy named Steven Who's asking me if I wanted to get better cable service or if I want to get a new deal? If we're going to take a discount on my something-or-other and it's all bullcrap Like that could why isn't that track down this is causing the American public billions of dollars in just wasted time Picking up these stupid calls from Stephen. Well, I think we need to kill Steven That may be easier let's get rid of that guy I'm just saying Google is the premier source of email for most people in the Western world. Maybe there's, definitely, I think Apple also has a lot of people. There are still some AOL people out there. Why don't they make it so that your email only shows you what you want? Really shows you the things that are important to you and you know, they're just willy-nilly filter stuff into promotions

1:06:00 Great including our newsletter half the time where they let real spam come through until that time when Google always reliably delivers you the no agenda newsletter to a To it to the top of your list and says important important important and doesn't file it away AI is bogus Well, I'm not gonna argue that point. Yeah, where's a I? Showing shown to be useful except for cranking out mediocre art Yeah, or writing the advertorials for Sports Illustrated. That was pretty funny. The Sports Illustrated story is the best! So bad and you know but it wasn't even they're just buying this from a company that is delivering advertorial content you know? It's totally... Oh by the way oh my goodness first sighting of the season first sighting of the season what do we expect every single Christmas time come on

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Kmart Australia Secret Santa and Mattel Barbie Native Ad

A news story about a "Secret Santa" paying off layaway accounts at a Kmart in Melbourne is deconstructed as a native advertisement for Mattel. The hosts point out that the news segment specifically highlighted the prices of a Barbie house and dreamboat, suggesting the entire event was a coordinated marketing stunt for the Barbie brand.

kmart· australia· secret santa· mattel· barbie· native advertising· layaway

1:07:03 Well, we get the shopper who buys the gifts for everybody in the store. Christmas spirit is alive and well in Melbourne as Secret Santa came into Kmart's Richmond store on Saturday and paid off all of the lay-bys! Among the items was a $200 Barbie house and an $89 Barbie dreamboat. Kmart hasn't revealed how much The Good Samaritan spent or how many customers benefited from the gesture Just out of our heart good when we see that Australians are still prepared to help others in need even though they don't know who they are They're not family or friends, but just random acts of kindness. It's great. Pricey where were you? Can you prove that you weren't there? Work this out.

1:07:50 let alone, it's already after the fact so what difference does it make to anyone who wants to get a free doll or toy from Walmart? It is nonsense. Yeah every year This is a triple whammy First of all Well, I'll get back to the third of the whammies. But here we have the typical... We know that this is done over and over again, Secret Santa and they're always promoting Walmart or Walgreens or Target it's always a big box store it's a known promotion And this time it's Australia that, you know they are 12 hours ahead of us so the first ones to come out with it. But they did not inform the old coot on the news team! Everybody is in on it everybody except for the old guy and I don't know what this old guy does at this news desk but he's...you know and they involve him by saying where were YOU OLD GUY? Did you do this? You old adorable coot?!

1:08:55 does not follow the script because they forgot to give it to him. No, no. Why are you saying we think that? You think that! Well no I'm just puzzled as to why this would happen But if they did that wouldn't they could just say we've forgiven the labi? It's a material it could be anyone Who puts stuff on labi in a miracle?

1:09:32 So then they accuse him of being, you know rich and he has a private jet but listen to what? He says well didn't Kmart just do this themselves and one of the guys if you listen carefully actually says Why would we do that? Worked this out. Why why would someone do that? First why would someone do Don't you understand it's an ad old dude Why? Why would someone do that? What do you mean, why would they do it? Because it's a lovely thing to do. Why would you do that? Cause its the Christmas dance To help people out Yeah Maybe... I don't know It just puzzles me You wouldn't do it You think K-Mart did it themselves No no, we can get to the ankle easily You used to think that? As long as you can hear One of the guys on the panel says Why do you say WE would do that? We can get to the ankle easily

1:10:31 Now that's the second part of the triple whammy. The real joke is, and of course you don't have the images... They show a guy at I guess the layaway desk bringing out two articles and placing them right in front of the camera. Listen again to who is really paying for this ad Christmas spirit is alive and well in Melbourne. A secret Santa came into Kmart's Richmond store on Saturday and paid off all the lay-bys! Among the items, a $200 Barbie house and an $89 Barbie dreamboat It's a Barbie ad! Yeah, Mattel Yes, Mattel! And they place it...it says its $200, $80 for this and they have it right there They even put the price Yes! Its a Mattel Ad people

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Today Show PopStart and Blue Moon Bagel Collaboration

The hosts critique the "PopStart" segment on the Today Show as a platform for native advertising. They highlight a "food collaboration" between Blue Moon beer and Pop-Up Bagels, featuring Al Roker and Savannah Guthrie, as an example of blatant product placement disguised as news.

today show· carson daly· pop-up bagel· blue moon· native advertising· j-lo

1:11:19 Get with it. They did a whole movie that's an ad and people flocked to it I got a handling to Mattel they were almost dead. Oh yeah, they've got some new marketing person at Mattel that knows what they're doing They were almost dead 10 years ago remember that? They were like the short of the century! They were...they were dead and boom there it is The short of the century. They were oh man just so beautiful So beautiful Well you this sort thing I did I caught a native ad. Ooh good This native ad, what do you think we can have it called here? Would it be Native Ad? It probably would be but I don't see it. No no...I see Nikki Haley. How about the Pop Start bagel? Here is Pop Start! Let me set this up. Pop start my favorite segment. Pop start is on the Today Show. It's a little segment that Carson Daly comes out and he does. It's called pop start and its all native ads

1:12:12 And so and it's really pathetic because it's really I mean, It's pathetic. Because they plug one thing after another coming out and left this up to the end of the coming out of a new single by what's name of that singer thats married to famous black singer? I need a little more to work with She's married to the richest black singer in the world. I think it's J-Lo. J-Lo? She's Latina, Latinx! Well whatever she is... but she got a new single that was the greatest thing ever and they're oohing and ahing over it so they go into this

1:12:54 product. I think you're talking about Beyonce? Beyonce! There you go. And so it doesn't matter because they're going into the real native... Tell that to Beyonce! Yes, I'm sorry. I'll be quiet They're going into this ad for a bagel that's got beer in the dough and there's mail order bagel. And so they're going on and on about this bagel, it is applied for the Bagel Company which is a pop-up bagel. You get to listen to Al Roker two times say I love pop-up bagels. I love pop... he does it twice to make sure that... What are, what are pop up bagels? It's a bagel pop up store that crops up in New York i guess And this is what its called the bagel pop up

1:13:43 Yeah, I guess. I'm familiar with it but the way they go oooing and aaaah-ing this is the worst kind of native ad you'll ever hear. Let's practice John we can get one of these ready? Look at that. That is crazy! J-Lo's set to release a single called Can't Get Enough in January You were right, it's J-Lo I take it all back The album release and film debut on Prime Video February 16th Steamy stuff in the holidays with Jennifer Lopez Finally! You know we love a good food collaboration of Popstar We've covered Ted Lasso John how much do you love a good food collaboration with your favorite pop star?

1:14:29 No, nothing like it. There's nothing like it! Stuff from the holidays by General Lopez. Finally you know we love a good food collaboration of pop star we've covered Ted Lasso ice cream just did the McDonalds Crocs recently well now Blue Moon bagels that's right blue moon and New York's beloved Pop-Up Bagel I love pop up bagels are teaming up and infusing real beer into this beautiful breakfast bread. Oh my god! Did you dream this? The orange cream cheese mimics... Yes I did, this is happening right now. Salt bagel So try a bagel and dip it in one of these breads. What do you dip it in? The orange? Yeah. Not really sure but just wanted to give you guys a taste. Is the beer in the bagels or is the beer in the spread? Savannah has both. In the bagel. I bring bagels and beer It's in the bagel. I love this. Man, Savannah

1:15:19 Oh my word. This is what TVs come to. Well, I can... not as funny but i can show you it's even worse than that by the way people will say man Linda Lupatkin doing a native ad well I don't think so mmm I love Linda Lupatin oh yeah she has great job search needs

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Weight Watchers Pivot to Obesity Care Management

Weight Watchers CEO Seema Sistani apologizes for the company's past focus on willpower, now framing obesity as a "chronic medical condition" requiring pharmaceutical intervention. The hosts analyze this as a shift toward "obesity care management" following Weight Watchers' acquisition of a telehealth service to prescribe drugs like Mounjaro.

weight watchers· seema sistani· zepbound· mounjaro· obesity· big pharma· telehealth

1:16:13 Police, police people. No this now you alluded to some of this and it's not the first clip I'm going to play but the native ad is in full effect for Deathbound Monjaro, which is the new weight loss version of Monjaro. Monjaro is the diabetes weight loss drug which it's for diabetics but it helps you lose weight and Deathbound which I think is called ZepBound but Deathbound as we call it is native advertising everywhere But this is a huge shift in lots of different businesses

1:16:53 And we're going to get to the ultimate outcome of what needs to happen and what I think everyone is really pining over. But one of the companies that clearly needs to correct themselves is Weight Watchers Because for years, Weight Watchers told people it was your... It was you have no self-control. Yeah! You're eating too damn much food. You have no portion control. Well now we know thanks to Big Pharma and incessant lying that people who are overweight it's not...it's not you. It's a medical condition. It's a disease

1:17:34 This is a disease. It's not the horrible crap food you're eating, it's not the portions you're eating Man when I was growing up in The Netherlands The Dutch people would always go You Americans! You have big gulp What is that shit man? No wonder your fat Yeah we are drinking big gallons of sugary water But thats not the problem Its a disease So Weight Watchers hired CNN And they did a beautiful advertorial. I tightened it up to, you know like $1.45 How long was it? Oh, it was three minutes It was an expensive ad. Wow that's expensive CNN business! Ugh, CNN business. That's cheap. CNN Business...I don't think anyone watches this but yeah so they have probably could have gone 10 minutes So they have a relatively new CEO

1:18:24 And she is sorry. But in 2023, another huge shift led by CEO Seema Sistani Weight Watchers jumped into the booming prescription weight loss drug business acknowledging that for some diet and exercise aren't enough I want to be the first to say i'm sorry and we know better now We will do better now For many who are living with obesity, it's a chronic condition and therefore it is not a choice. We needed to be the first to be proud and loud about Notice the piano About the fact that we got it wrong in the past. We've been treating these medications like its vanity And it's not, It's life saving In some ways it sort of make or break for business too though right? Because this is sort of direction this industry Is going with or without weight loss

1:19:12 This is disgusting. Oh, yeah especially with the piano music on a news item supposedly Yeah, piano music on a news items kind of a giveaway as a native ad but this is disgusting so basically they were higher their entire modus operandi Which is to get people to eat less food or eat dead orb and then switch over it completely eating their crummy food? As a part of of a lifestyle change. Did they've just given up on it? No, no! I know what they... we talked about the change they made but this is them selling the change It'll come at the end In past, we've been treating these medications like it's a vanity and its not, it's life saving in some ways it sort of make or break for business too though right because this is sort of direction that industry is going with without Weight Watchers

1:20:01 I would say that's true. And i think that people who are deniers about the fact that obesity is a chronic condition, um, are fat deniers job don't you dare deny that this is a chronic medical condition? You are a denier if you say that going to be left behind Weight Watchers bought sequence and $99 a month telehealth subscription service that connects patients to doctors who can prescribe weight loss and diabetes drugs It's incredibly important to communicate the risks and that is why the training in obesity care management is really important. Also, the lifestyle interventions that need to be done alongside medications. Why should somebody come to Weight Watchers for these kinds of prescription weight loss drugs instead of just going to their doctor? Well they can absolutely go to their doctor but I think what we can provide is a higher support solution

1:20:55 Many doctors don't have training in nutrition, obesity care management and nor do they have the support system to basically help throughout the journey. How do you avoid having to rebrand the company every couple of years as people talk about weight loss differently? I think a bit less as rebranding and more that we should be changing. We should be evolving you can't be around for 60 years and still be the same thing our whole world has shifted yeah they are now in obesity care management and why go to a doctor when you can get a higher support solution I mean seriously. Why go to the doctor who if he's any good or she is any good they'll say what are you nuts? Stop eating! Stop eating you fat pig You're a denier, you're a denier So now we have the best way to position yourself as a company

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Mounjaro vs. Ozempic and the Medicare Coverage Push

A report comparing Mounjaro and Ozempic identifies Mounjaro as the "clear winner" for weight loss. The hosts argue that the pharmaceutical industry is lobbying for Medicare to cover these expensive drugs by reclassifying obesity as a disease, which would force private insurers to follow suit and create a massive taxpayer-funded revenue stream.

mounjaro· ozempic· eli lilly· medicare· fda· weight loss drugs· insurance coverage

1:21:51 Well, the best way used to be give yourself an award. You know you create an award show give yourself the award isn't that what the Archer Daniel Midlands Award whatever... No what's that award? That you can buy something called but most of the awards you have to pay for it enter yeah and then to buy it they'll kind of tease you with the award but you got to get more money I forget. What's the thing that they always have to air? Oh, J.D Power! Thank you, troll room. Oh, J.D Power. Classic. Give me a break. The company has made billions on awards We're stupid but we'll get to that later Well, I've been trying to do awards but you refuse, you refuse Because I'm too honest You just refuse, you hate it So... Monjaro

1:22:40 does the study of their own drug. That's usually how you get it approved anyway, so we might as well put it into some... run it through chat GPT turn it into a press release and there is a reason for this they are all angling for one single thing. We'll listen to the native ad that is running on NBC. Now to a new report on two popular weight loss drugs, Monjaro and Ozempic. For the first time researchers looked at real-world data on the two medications... Real world data! W R D Comparing how much weight people lost in them and get this one came out way ahead. NBC News business correspondent Christine Roman says... Oh no! One came way

1:23:22 Yeah, the one who paid us more. Now with more on this intriguing headline... Before you play the end of this, on this same show that you pulled this clip was there any mention of the 450 thousand Africans that were now homeless and roaming as refugees? There's even one mention of it? Well if they were fat they would be But that's the problem, they're not eating. They don't have this disease! Now with more on this intriguing headline, Chrissy good morning It is good morning to both of you You know this is a hot topic for sure Hot Topic? Hot Topic?! Hot Topic for sure! Hot Topic! This whole class of drugs very exciting according to the NIH More than 2 out every 5 adults in this country suffer from obesity Wow wow And we know from clinical trials at Ozempic and Majaro They work really well to help people lose weight but now A new analysis finds one of those drugs Is the clear winner in getting results

1:24:15 Can we play this clip on the last show? No, no. This is new information man! This is brand new! This is great! And Manjaro can help decrease how much food you eat. They're two of the most popular weapons in the battle against obesity. Weapons! Weapons! This a war! A war against fat! Now a new report suggests one of these blockbuster drugs far more effective in helping people slim down. The analysis looked at real world data from about 18,000 overweight adults using Munjaro or Ozempic over a year it found those taking Munjaro were three times more likely to lose 15% of their body weight than those on Ozempic

1:24:57 and more than two-and-a-half times more likely to lose 10% of their body weight. Well, I know which one I'm choosing! While not a peer reviewed study this echoes previous research... Well not a peer reviewed study? Which was you know when it came to ivermectin Yo, this is just a conspiracy theory. This has been debunked many times over and more than two and half times more likely to lose 10% of their body weight through the mouth people. While not a peer reviewed study this echoes previous research that found Mujaro more effective than Ozempic in helping some people with weight loss

1:25:32 Both drugs are taken through weekly injections and are FDA approved only for type 2 diabetes, not weight loss. I've lost 17 pounds in 8 weeks! But demand is soaring as more patients use them off-label to shed unwanted pounds. Doctors say they work by mimicking hormones in the gut tied to appetite The major difference between the two medications is that Monjoro is working on two hormones and Ozempic is working on one hormone. So you're essentially getting more bang for the buck when you take Monjoro. After struggling with obesity her whole life, Tara Rothenhofer joined a clinical trial from Monjoro. Three years in she says she's lost more than 200 pounds

1:26:16 Instead of that feeling of looking towards your next meal while you're still eating the current meal, you're having more of that feeling of satisfaction, of enjoyment. You know, you have a few bites of something and you feel full. Eli Lilly maker of Mujaro says it'll soon release a version that's FDA approved for weight loss called Zebbound. In a statement, the maker of Ozempic Nova Nordis told us their drug is only meant to treat type 2 diabetes It's approved drug for weight loss called Wagovy is similar but at a higher dose than Ozempic. Experts caution the safety of these drugs is still unknown in healthy people who just want to lose a few pounds. They can have side effects like gastrointestinal distress, nausea and vomiting and they only curb hunger while being used

1:27:02 For most patients, when you stop the medication you will regain roughly two thirds of that weight. This is not a medication that will reset you for life. Okay and now we get down to what this is really all about one thing and one thing only and I guarantee you the Biden administration will push this and push and push through executive order whatever they need they're going to get this put this in one place the most important remember This is a disease. This is a debilitating disease, this is ruining people's lives... ...this is a horrible thing and we finally have a solution so we need that where?

1:27:42 On Medicare. So bottom line, Christine no matter what these drugs are expensive how much does insurance cover? So right now these are quite expensive some of these drugs are hundreds of dollars a week Now if you are prescribed for diabetes then you might have insurance will cover this and insurance does cover a lot of people on these drugs but for weight loss specifically some of these drugs are not covered by insurance and one of the wrinkles here is that Medicare way back like 20 years ago in the fen-fen craze Congress made it that Medicare would not cover weight loss because there were so many, you know dramatic scams So they need to go back and figure out what Medicare starts to cover it for weight loss Then you'll probably see insurers start to follow. We're not there yet we are in the early days of this but this is a health story It's also an economy story because

1:28:28 When you can get health care costs in this country under control, it could be really life-changing and also financially important for the country. Absolutely when less people are obese than other patients in that way. Exactly! Charging a thousand dollars a pop for bullshit is not going to help anybody No but what they want is that the drug companies, but Eli Lilly is leading the charge They want their drugs on Medicare They want this to be covered by Medicare so they can pull ahead of the rest of the pack and under a lie. I mean, I'm not a doctor but come on now! Yeah you're puking your stomach issues food noise is gone. So we gotta get that Medicare but it changes the lives... It'll come

1:29:20 Combat climate change. I'm telling you we're gonna see this. Climate change is part of it, but I got a bunch of clips called spending dilemma that might actually touch on this Let me play one last one because this is such a wonder drug It's doing more than...I mean We know that people don't want to drink alcohol they don't want to snort cocaine and then This is the conversation really excited that were about to have yeah, we've heard all about the benefits of um, Ozempic. We're talking about Wegovy, what has become weight loss drugs but now... Oh now wait a minute we have some- we're better than Monjaro! There's new information about how it could help women who are going through menopause

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Pharmaceutical Marketing for Menopause and Perimenopause

The hosts critique a news segment featuring Dr. Alicia Robbins, who suggests that women in their 40s should use weight loss drugs to manage perimenopause symptoms. They characterize this as "ghoulish" marketing intended to expand the consumer base for GLP-1 drugs to younger, healthy populations.

menopause· perimenopause· weight loss drugs· pharmaceutical advertising· native ads

1:28:28 When you can get health care costs in this country under control, it could be really life-changing and also financially important for the country. Absolutely when less people are obese than other patients in that way. Exactly! Charging a thousand dollars a pop for bullshit is not going to help anybody No but what they want is that the drug companies, but Eli Lilly is leading the charge They want their drugs on Medicare They want this to be covered by Medicare so they can pull ahead of the rest of the pack and under a lie. I mean, I'm not a doctor but come on now! Yeah you're puking your stomach issues food noise is gone. So we gotta get that Medicare but it changes the lives... It'll come

1:29:20 Combat climate change. I'm telling you we're gonna see this. Climate change is part of it, but I got a bunch of clips called spending dilemma that might actually touch on this Let me play one last one because this is such a wonder drug It's doing more than...I mean We know that people don't want to drink alcohol they don't want to snort cocaine and then This is the conversation really excited that were about to have yeah, we've heard all about the benefits of um, Ozempic. We're talking about Wegovy, what has become weight loss drugs but now... Oh now wait a minute we have some- we're better than Monjaro! There's new information about how it could help women who are going through menopause

1:29:59 So how does it work and what does it mean for any woman who may be approaching that age? Tell me. Yeah, well we are joined now by Dr. Robbins to talk more about this and this is a conversation I know Shirlane you were really as we had our meetings in the newsroom so many points to get to. Let me just say this dr. Alicia Robins she's a board-certified OBGYN she is a lifestyle physician she also has a medical practice called The Elm which specializes in peri menopause and menopause for women. I've never even heard of a practice that specializes in this. Oh, this is so exciting guys! But Dr. Evans first of all thank you for joining us and can you please tell us right off the bat first of all who should be paying attention to this right now? This is not just older women right talk about that first it's not just for older women No! Menopause we gotta been thinking about

1:30:46 it when you're young. Yes, yes. Well hi everyone thank you so much for having me this is so fun it's so fun I'm getting paid and I'm so glad that we're bringing attention to this so yes Jillian like you said menopause getting more we're talking about it more thankfully finally applies to women in their 40s really the simplest way of when we say perimenopause perimenopause is the time in your 40s or even late 30s when your hormones start to change and you start transitioning towards menopause. But it can last a decade so really I'm talking about women in their 40's and 50's should listen to this. You really need to get on this stuff in your forties because, you know, but you turn forty and stuff starts to slip and you get a little pudgy... This will help with your menopause! These people are ghouls! This is evil

1:31:44 And we need to, as you say outlaw advertising of pharmaceutical products to consumers. Yeah that would include native ads. Disgusting! What a spending dilemma. I defer the rest of my time to the gentleman from Berkeley Spending dilemma. Let me see, oh this looks interesting Is America heading toward a debt disaster? What is Congress doing about the nation's increasing indebtedness The House discusses the problem One lawmaker saying the damage will be catastrophic and irreparable

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Congressional Budget Committee and National Debt Disaster

The House Budget Committee discusses the "catastrophic" trajectory of the U.S. national debt. Lawmakers express concern that interest payments may soon exceed the military budget, yet remain hesitant to cut entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare. The hosts mock the proposal of a "fiscal commission" as a way for Congress to avoid direct responsibility.

national debt· house budget committee· steve womack· entitlements· social security· fiscal commission

1:32:21 In today's Virginia, Gibson has more. This is our generation's world war! It's a problem of historic proportions The most important and incredible threat to the republic as we know it Continued inaction will prove disastrous America's national debt It continues to surge non-stop as Congress continues borrowing to spend. The end result could be economic calamity for future generations. The House Budget Committee discussed the urgency of the issue Wednesday. The only people that can fix this is United States Congress and I think that the United States Congress is going to be willing to do this

1:33:00 Lawmaker Steve Womack says Congress has done nothing to address this issue. He says the big problem is that no politician wants to cut the biggest sources of spending, entitlement programs in particular Social Security Healthcare Income security and Medicare cutting these things will be unpopular with voters This is great And by the way, this is great. Social Security is a separate fund or supposed to be Because if you look at your, you get a your check stub. It shows you the deductions. You got your taxes. Yeah they stole that. Which is supposed to pick up for the and then it has social security separate. They stole them! And it's supposed to be kept separate so the fact that they're stealing the Social Security in other words just another part of the tax mm-hmm is inconscionable and nobody has done anything to stop that Wait? You getting mad about this?!

1:33:56 No, I'm mad. Well...I've been mad about it. Yeah? Uh, it's like-it's a scam?! And they're taking this money, right now we're finally at the point it took a long time but we got to the point where were taking in less money than we are borrowing on a yearly basis. I think 115% is what we are borrowing. Not according to Janet Yellen by the way she says that's fake news Everybody says it except her This is the best part She's in charge of it They're stealing money left and right and then thats why its interesting about they want to add $1000 Medicare, you know a month to these people to pay for it. For their shots $1,000 shot which is bogus and the other point is that if they put in an enforcement agency in Medicare they could cut them probably the budget in half for that because there's so much scamming going on well this is the biggest scam is this I mean but one of its probably pales by comparison

1:34:57 But let's continue. on that subcommittee and I both see that every single day. And it's certainly happening on the non-defense side." One possible ray of hope, a fiscal commission. We need an outside group of experts to help us understand what the absolute truth is. The Commission would analyze the economic situation and then provide recommendations to Congress

1:35:38 and add them on another waste of money put us on this this would be fun we could do we could have fun with this Commission So they don't want to audit the Pentagon, which is obviously a source of waste. There's all kinds of ways going on this guy's bitching about the fact that our interest is overtaking them military budget, which is bloated. I will finish it off. I love it! The fiscal commission may not be the magic potion as the chairman had said and it may fail...it may But we cannot stop trying. Lawmaker Bill Huizenga believes this commission would be the most practical and immediate way Congress can break the status quo. It's unclear how Congress would react to recommendations from such a commission By clutching their pearls, the Curry-Dvorak Commission I can see it already John That would work We'll be taking private jets around the country

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UN Global Tax Framework and COP28 Climate Finance

A UN resolution led by African states aims to move global tax rule-making from the OECD to the United Nations. Simultaneously, at COP28, discussions focus on "climate finance," with estimates suggesting $1 trillion to $2.4 trillion is needed annually for developing nations. The hosts interpret this as a move toward a global carbon tax managed by the UN.

united nations· tax justice network· cop28· climate finance· carbon tax· oecd

1:36:33 Check everything out. Yeah, check everything out you know? Well it's obvious where they're gonna get it from is from a carbon tax that is the global idea. That's what they're hoping for you right now. It's more than just what they're hoping for I mean there really starting to push this But the pot, where the carbon tax money goes is going to be in the UN. It's not gonna go to the Rogovi shots? They have a... well you're right it's gonna go to the UN and they're already setting it up they have there's even an organization for this what does this organization called

1:37:18 The Tax Justice Network. Put justice in anything and you're good to go. Countries at the UN adopted a resolution to begin the process of establishing a framework convention on tax and completely change how global tax rules are decided. The resolution was led primarily by African member states, and could eventually move decision-making on global tax rules from the OECD, a club of developed countries, to the UN."

1:38:03 You're spot on, it will be moved to the United Nations and because Africa's involved with it that means there is a carbon tax. And I have the details here...I have the actual numbers from France 24 as climate finance or as we in business say climate finance is on the agenda for COP 28 which is kicking off. Climate finance it's going to be one of the items really at the top of the agenda of a COP28 taking place, of course in the United Arab Emirates as we said participants trying to find an agreement on a target to fix and Charles Pellegrin is here too tell us more Charles That's right this is huge topic conversation that covers many different sectors areas whether its clean energy investments or spending on climate resilient infrastructure

1:38:49 And at COP21 in Paris in 2015, richer countries agreed that they should help poorer countries that are more vulnerable to the climate chaos caused by the carbon emissions of developed economies. Well the commitment that was agreed on Why these developed countries in successive climate talks was of $100 billion per year, in climate assistance by 2020. A goal that was missed for several years and that might finally actually have been reached this year but the needs are so much bigger than that number actual estimates of how much is needed

1:39:29 emerging markets and developing countries in order to keep global warming under the set target of two degrees. Well, they're much higher by 2030 $1 trillion will be needed annually in external... What? What happened to 1.5 degrees shut up Much higher, by 2030 $1 trillion will be needed annually in external assistance. And total spending for these countries would actually be much higher than that around 2.4 trillion dollars

1:40:07 Shut up and listen because you don't know what you're talking about. You stupid pleb! They need a trillion dollars a year, but really 2.7 trillion dollars a year they're going to steal it from everybody and we're going to be living in cardboard boxes It's unbelievable that needs that we need a revolt revolution And of course this is exactly what Donald Trump, former President Trump is saying. Is that I gotta get in here because everyone's crazy they've all gone nuts. They apparently are if they're gonna pull up... If anyone was buying into this So now that Trump once again is on the scene talking sense as witnessed by many people who are starting to say yeah well you know

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Amazon Rivian Vans Powered by Diesel Generators

A "Boots on the Ground" report from an Amazon engineer claims that due to power grid limitations, Amazon is using diesel-powered generators to charge its fleet of Rivian electric delivery vans. The hosts highlight the irony of using fossil fuels to power "green" transportation.

amazon· rivian· electric vehicles· diesel generators· charging stations

1:40:56 Before I continue, I have to read this Boots on the Ground. Remember the Amazon engineer who told us that the Rivian deal that Amazon did with all their delivery for it with these Rivian pickup trucks? That they can't have them... you know, the charging station stuff is blowing up these things are catching on fire. So listen to this latest update from our Amazon engineer Boots On The Ground because of power generation issues at the power companies Amazon is now using diesel-powered generators to power the vehicle chargers. Oh, I love it! That's so good. So Trump is... this is the one speech that he did that everyone's up in arms over at least as being used to clutch pearls

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NPR Analysis of Trump's "Vermin" Speech and Alleged Anti-Semitism

The hosts deconstruct an NPR segment featuring Jeff Sharlet and Brook Gladstone, who analyze Donald Trump’s "vermin" speech as a sign of a "slow civil war." NPR contributors claim Trump’s rhetoric about "money changers" and "globalists" is coded anti-Semitism, even suggesting that criticizing Special Counsel Jack Smith is a form of racial or religious signaling.

donald trump· npr· brook gladstone· jeff sharlet· vermin speech· anti-semitism· jack smith

1:41:43 This is where he said, these vermin have got to go! Which when you listen... He has the vermin speech. Now known as the vermin speech. Heaven forbid you use the word vermin Well it's much worse because over there at NPR on The Media they did a midweek show they had do a special edition in between shows with Brook Gladstone To discuss the word vermin Oh no not just the word vermin the entire speech Jeff Charlotte, who is the author of Undertow, Scenes from a Slow Civil War has been around the country. He's been around the country he has talked to everybody and he comes back and he lets us know that because of Trump and trumpism we are in the midst of a slow civil war

1:42:33 And this is all based upon an analysis of Trump's vermin speech, also known as the post-indictment speech. And I had people who would start clipping this for me and I'd already clipped it. This is how unhinged deranged this is from our national treasure known as NPR. His post indictments speech last Saturday... We have a record crowd here today so that... ...represented a turning point in his rhetoric He was talking about the final battle, which he's been doing. This is the final battle. This is the most important election we've ever had. But then there was another element to speaking of obliteration. He saying not only is there a risk of World War Three? There will absolutely be World War three unless I am returned to power. I will prevent World War three. I will prevent it and now people believe that they're what he said

1:43:27 This is what I love about this entire analysis. They put words in his mouth over and over again He didn't say there will be World War three unless I'm returned to power He didn't say that absolutely be World War three unless I am returned to power. I will prevent World War three, I will prevent it and now people believe it Well he said the same thing in the speech that just preceded January 6th. He said you So she basically contradicts The basic thesis of the guy because the guy said things have changed. She's got new rhetoric

1:44:08 I know. And so she comes out and says, well by the way he said the same thing back here you and and i've listened to a lot of his speeches don't listen much of them anymore they haven't changed because after it does a bunch he does a buck uh buck 15 buck 30 of shtick, hilariously the same interchangeable material and boom. No no this is something has changed now we have to be very afraid of this warmongering Jew hater that just preceded January 6th he said you have to fight as hard as you can or you won't have a country Oh no, that's not the same thing. When he means World War III he is talking about nuclear obliteration. This won't be a conventional war with army tanks going back and forth shooting each other this will be nuclear war this will be obliteration perhaps obliteration of the entire world I will prevent it nobody else can say that. I alone can stop it which is of course a classic of fascist rhetoric

1:45:09 He never said I alone But this is how these people hear it. This is what's so fascinating about this is you're right because this is exactly what they're hearing and then you talk to the liberals in the Anywhere, you are and you're gonna they all here It's it's the dimension thing again there. They're living in a different dimension. They're hearing different things Yes, it's very much just gonna fire off a nuke for no reason keep yeah So now they've heard that the Democrats are going to fire off a nuke for no reason. Yeah, I think that is how it's being heard... That we are very close to nuclear war with Russia and he alone can stop it but even more abstract than that right so when he says at the end of the day either the communists win destroy America or we destroy the Communists because that's what they are They may go by different names

1:46:06 fascists, Marxist. He opens and closes the speech with some kind of classic anti-Semitism talking about globalism and Marxists. What? I love this! He's a Jew hater! Classic anti-semite talking about communists and Marxists So if you bitch about Marxism, you're a Jew-hater. Correct! He's expanding... Because Marx was... Marx by the way was an admitted atheist okay? That's the whole point exactly exactly but no no no this is the new anti-Semites it's the face of Jew hate They are they may go by a different name

1:46:47 fascists, Marxist. He opens and closes the speech with some kind of classic anti-Semitism talking about globalists and Marxists. He didn't say globalists! Ending the potent conspiracism of anti-semitism so that it applies to all his enemies but lest anyone be confused he doubles down in the middle by talking about Jack Smith The special counsel who indicted him. Jack Smith what do you think his name used to be? I don't know does anybody have a...Jack Smith sounds so innocent what is his original name, what's his real name? It's Jack Smith. But it couldn't be that sounds so innocent by which he means it sounds all-American white Oh I see So when you say that then... He can't be one of us Whiteys No no no Let's get back to the Jew stuff And then at the end and this was new Great We will drive out the globalists

1:47:44 We will cast out the communists. We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country and wants to destroy our country." This is a reference to driving out the money changers, Jesus driving out the money changers... What? This is my favorite! This is a reference to Jesus driving out the money changers you know, The Jews These people are sick, John. This is a sickness. This is a real sickness. It wants to destroy our country? This is a reference to driving out the money changers—Jesus driving out the money changers and to make sure you don't miss it he refers...the speechwriter I should say refers to both the Gospel of John and the Gospel of Matthew The money changers historically in anti-Semitism are understood

1:48:32 as the Jews, but in this moment it's understood as the enemy. And the enemy is Jack Smith, it's whoever is on the other side... That's interesting rather than cast the Jew as enemy that's the tradition here that's already assumed and so you cast the enemy whoever that may be as Jews Help me! Help me understand how they come to this conclusion I have no clue. They're weird! No, they're ill this is mental illness total mental yeah the Jew becomes metaphor and he's got plausible deniability because of course there are enough right-wing Jews maybe he's not saying any of it no Miller who was Jewish wrote that speech for him and has not been shy of using that language before

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Ashli Babbitt as a "Tarot Card of Fascism"

NPR’s Jeff Sharlet describes the late Ashli Babbitt as a "productive martyr" and a "new tarot card in the deck of fascism." The hosts criticize the segment's racial framing, which compares Babbitt's death to the 1915 film *The Birth of a Nation*, calling the NPR analysis "mentally ill" and "left-leaning racism."

ashli babbitt· npr· martyrdom· january 6· fascism· racism· mythology

1:49:23 So we can say this isn't about Jews. In a way, for Trump it's really not his enemy is Jewish. So was Miller ever is against him and his power And then since he's become proxy when I go out and I speak to everyday people they see him as a martyr Oh He's a martyr now Let's talk about martyrs for a second because now we need to take it so not just Trump but all the crazy People who are for Trump? Yes They're really Dare I say it, racists. They hate black people. Black people are dangerous to Trump So you say that Trump has always strived to create martyrs Back in 2017 when he was president He said that the wounded GOP Congressman Steve Scalise took a bullet for all of us When he was shot in the hip by someone who professed to be a Trump hater He wasn't a Trump hater

1:50:20 I don't think that guy was a Trump hater, he was a Republican hater. Yeah, he hated all Republicans. Trump wasn't even there! But Scalise didn't die so he wasn't martyred... No! ...at a congressional baseball practice but you say that Ashley Babbitt who was killed as she stormed the US Capitol on January 6th was quote processed made productive almost immediately after her death transformed right away into yet another flag like a new tarot card in the deck of fascism What flag? I never saw an Ashley Babbitt flag. And she wasn't killed, she was murdered!

1:51:00 Oh, you racist. Processed made productive almost immediately after her death transformed right away and talked about it another we didn't even know this is a lie This is this reporting as some of the worst I've heard on NPR for no part of the course apart from the course We didn't even know who shot her for weeks and weeks It took a long time before we knew who shot her. And then we heard it was an agent, and you know it was a long time before we knew the horrible truth John he was black Processed made productive almost immediately after her death transformed right away into yet another flag like a new tarot card in the deck of fascism Holy mackerel! A new Tarot card in the deck of fascism

1:51:53 And we listen to what she now she says boy these guys think they're they really think there's shit poets sort of poetry babies poetry tarot card in the deck of fascism where joined Gadsden the coiled snake on yeah, isn't it Gadson not gas? What did you say? I think it is Gaston. She said it's gasps. I thought was Gatson. She's Gatson Yeah, but she says Gaston What a dope. In the deck of fascism, where it joined Gasden, the coiled snake on yellow and the blue lives matter flag When I saw Ashley Babbitt white woman who had a mob climbed up to a broken window in a Capitol Hill police officer shot her and killed her we saw only the hands of the officer is black man and i understood immediately as a student of American mythology and history

1:52:48 This is the lynching story. Innocent white womanhood killed by a black man, this is the template of Hollywood you go back to The Birth of A Nation one most influential movies all time 1915 based on a novel called The Clansmen. It's a positive story about the Ku Klux Klan and how white woman flees from a dangerous black man and jumps over cliff and dies, thus the clan must ride to avenge her. Ashley Babbitt was such a productive martyr because she is wearing an American flag outfit kind of. She is only woman in this crowd but she really fierce and tough She's also a veteran. I started traveling around the country watching the myth and formation, who Ashley Babbitt was doesn't matter to them." This is so racist...so hmmm....oh! I'm gonna use the modern word. It's just racist. I'll use the modern word. This is the kind of left-leaning racism that just permeates the Democrat Party right now it's just completely out of control in this interpretation

1:53:51 one of his many speeches, which are all pretty much the same. If you've seen one you see most of them is it's onerous and then they come up with all this crazy, you know the tarot card in the deck of fascism and all these other things It's ridiculous. How could you embarrass? And how can you have a tarot card in the deck of racism at the same time you're referring to Jesus kicking out money change a fascist yeah So now, of course you have to understand that Ashley Babbitt she's a perfect martyr for this as Hollywood mainly left-leaning outfit there. As they created this beautiful oh no black man kills white woman horrible oh yes this is what we hate in America go Trump!

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

NPR's "Houseless Man" Narrative and Trump Rallies

NPR discusses Ashli Babbitt's political evolution, citing her frustration with a "houseless man" defecating on her lawn as a turning point toward Trumpism. The hosts mock the use of the term "houseless" and critique NPR's claim that Trump is "riding an undertow" of public anger regarding "transgender craziness" rather than leading it.

ashli babbitt· npr· brook gladstone· transgender· trump rallies· houselessness

1:54:40 Given all the myth-making about Ashley, you looked into her life and what did you find? Oh boy. She documented her life very extensively 8000 tweets she made a lot of videos That's documenting your life alright isn't it? Twitter that's a documenting my life I found someone who would surprise a lot of people Ashley Babbitt from deep blue Southern California kind of beach person votes for Obama twice thinks is the best president ever So how did she get from there to here? What was the turning point? The dead. What do you think the turning point was? How did she get from there to dead, I mean here? Brooke Gladstone... Oh let's find out! She talks about a houseless man in Southern California A houseless man?! Oh boy we can't even say homeless anymore

1:55:25 He's a houseless man. A houseless man? Yeah, a houseless man! Let's not offend anybody while we're doing this... So all renters in the United States are houseless men That's correct She talks about a houseless man in Southern California defecating on her front lawn and the compassion she's tried to have in her life she just says to hell with it And Trump is right there with this stu- He was right there On the sidewalk This anti poop message He's right there on the sidewalk saying, Ashley- Ashley Babbitt I want you to be with me! Be a martyr! is right there with this story. You know what? That anger you feel, it's not anger. It's love for your country. You don't have to swim against the current give into the undertow let it take you out here's white supremacy ready to carry you and now she's got a leader. Poop on the front yard and white supremacy all kind of the same thing if you have poop in the front yard just let white supremacy carry away into utopia

1:56:24 This is the point. Let it take you out, here's white supremacy is ready to carry you and now she's got a leader and she's got a mythology And its so easy to go with it My God! Well if your going to simplify like that I guess it IS easy to go with it She has a leader I have the last clip And she has a mythology, well he never really talks about the my- what's the mythology? Okay, I'm sorry. I shouldn't be interrupting anymore because you just can never get this thing done. Keep playing! This is 39 seconds and we're over. The speech Trump gave on Saturday after the indictment there's a key moment there where he's talking about cutting taxes and he gets cheers and then he starts talking about what he calls trans- Hold on stop, I have to stop you again

1:57:06 I just want to point out this usage of after the indictment. After the indictment, just to keep reminding us if you don't remember this Trump is an indicted guy! Yes, indicted which means he's probably guilty It must be until proven innocent The speech... What are you talking about? Stop that now Do we need to play our buddy John Brennan? Yes Guilty... where is it I should have, i need to put this one back. You should have it at the ready Yeah, I need to put it... Brennan guilty Here we go This is what they really are talking about People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity

1:57:50 That's it. That's the mantra right there, people are innocent until they're alleged to be involved in some kind of criminal activity. Guilty! The speech Trump gave on Saturday after the indictment... There is a key moment there where he is talking about cutting taxes and he gets cheers and then starts talking about what he calls transgender craziness And he gets huge cheers He steps back I've seen this moment with so many Trump artists He steps back and says look at that You see him talking about cutting taxes? People go like that? And he mimes moderate applause I talk about transgender, everyone goes crazy. Who would have thought five years ago you didn't know what the— Hold on a second! He didn't say transgender craziness

1:58:28 He said I talk about transgender, everybody goes crazy. These people are literally hearing things. What he calls transgender craziness and he gets huge to us. He steps back and i've seen this in so many Trump ads. He steps back, he says look at that! You see him talking about cutting taxes? People go like that... And he mimes moderate applause. If I talk about transgender everyone goes crazy Who would have thought five years ago you didn't know what the hell it was? This is how Trump uses rallies. He is not a leader, he's riding this undertow! He's the one saying, Is this where we're going?" He says, Five years ago nobody talked about who'd have thought Not him But he'll follow now

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Endorses Donald Trump

Mark Fisher, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island, appears on Fox News to explain his support for Donald Trump. Fisher cites the "duplicity" and "hypocrisy" of the Democratic Party and its policies as the reason many Black voters are shifting their support toward Trump.

black lives matter· donald trump· mark fisher· rhode island· democratic party· hypocrisy

1:59:07 your national treasure ladies and gentlemen. Okay, you'll get a clip of the day for that work. Oh well thank you it did take me a little bit of time to do that. Meanwhile it must irk these people to no end that Fox News does stuff like this with the Rhode Island co-founder of Black Lives Matter. You know this is my favorite story of the day because I It identifies with what I've seen in the barbershop. All the brothers, for some reason right now are turning tides right now and i just wonder what is the big reason? I think personally it's the duplicity of the Democrats

1:59:44 The hypocrisy, we're not stupid. The brothers are not stupid. We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not. And it's obvious that the Democratic Party is not for us. Their policies actually strike at the heart of the black family and a nuclear family Yeah, so you were part of Black Lives Matter. You founded it there and now you're saying...You're not saying the entire Republican Party. You're saying Donald Trump? So what is it about Donald Trump? Is it the economics? You noted the black family. What is it going to take for him to shear up this support amongst black voters?

2:00:24 Well, I just think that it's going to take information. A lot of people are misinformed they don't really understand because they don't educate themselves on Donald Trump as a person and his history but if they do that and its gonna take you know leaders educated leaders getting the word out there um...I think that it'll happen on its own and it will be organic because personally I love them man how could not like a real man how could you not relate to someone like that? Oh oh we can have that He's a racist, don't you know that? Yeah. That guy is going around... he seems irked I want to bring in some Nikki Haley stuff here because Nikki Haley is Nimrod Haley What's the real name again?

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Nikki Haley's Campaign and "Billionaire Donor" Support

The hosts discuss the "ascension" of Nikki Haley, fueled by endorsements from the Koch brothers and JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon. They characterize Haley as a "warmonger" and a "McCain Democrat" being pushed by the military-industrial complex as a hedge against Donald Trump’s legal troubles.

nikki haley· koch brothers· jamie dimon· gop primary· warmonger· foreign policy

2:01:10 What's her real name again? She is the new op. I know, but what's her real name? You had it last time. Oh yeah... Nimrod! I came up with Nimrod. Yeah, Nimrod is good. I like Nimrod we'll just use Nimrod Haley So she is being promoted by a bunch of rich guys. Yeah Koch brothers. The Silicon Valley Republicans are backing her too. I think some oil guys are backing her as well Yeah, they're all backing. I don't know why well i do know why it's because they don't want Trump yeah but she's no good uh nimarata nimarata nimarata nimrod exactly yeah nimarata for sure yes

2:01:55 So she's the new op? I think she has been that way ever since they started putting money in her favor. And the thing you notice, if you watch even Fox... Oh! She won the debate! Somehow she won the debate! Nobody is winning these debates but somehow she is coming out ahead and they keep pushing that and look at their numbers are going up This is a pathetic attempt to thwart Trump for real It's very pathetic. It's very pathetic and here are some examples, part one With a narrower field of candidates in the GOP primary we are seeing the remaining candidates picking up major endorsements A political advocacy group backed by the Koch brothers recently threw their support behind Nikki Haley

2:02:41 And today, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon also said that Haley is the candidate who has the best chance of unseating GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. What do we make of this? Joining us to discuss is Mike Leon host of Can We Please Talk podcast. Oh my God. Podcaster! Oh my god well this will change the tide. We've got a podcaster. So she brings on a podcaster who doesn't know anything. Why did they bring him on then? I have no idea. PR? Maybe he has a PR person, we can never get one because the PR people don't like us much. They hate us because you know... They hate us and that's what it is but so they bring this guy on and he's got nothing to say and it's actually kind of funny what he says because he's a stooge and by the way The Koch brothers are notorious even though they were mentioned a lot in 2015-2016 as terrible people

2:03:36 But once they turned on Trump, they never liked Donald Trump. So they sent him no support whatsoever and then the talk of the Koch brothers just disappeared Because everyone's fine with them. Okay, here we go. Mike Leon thank you so much for joining us great to be back on the show now big donors including the billionaire Koch brothers are backing Nikki Haley for president that's the latest push to beat Trump how do you read this especially given the polls? Yeah you know it's so funny that now you're starting to see folks starting to weigh in and we saw Iowa Governor Reynolds background DeSantis now we're seeing

2:04:13 the donations that are coming in from the Koch brothers for Nikki Haley. I read it as similar to last time I was on, I was mentioning about how the debate performances went and I think right now people are starting to see Nikki Haley's ascension after these debates. I mentioned to you Tiffany and I'm going to take a victory lap about Tim Scott would probably be dropping and sure enough he drops and I think what's happening right now is you're starting to see even before we get there... Wow! He has got a crystal ball there on that podcast I predict him. Scott will drop out of the race and take a victory lap about dropping and sure enough, he drops in. And I think what's happening right now is you're starting to see even before we get to January on the Iowa primary, you're starting to see a consolidation. And I think the money is starting to move towards Nikki Haley because we saw Paul in South Carolina trending upwards in her direction

2:05:02 We've seen her shoot up in morning council polls, which registered Republicans as about 4,000 or so in those polls. And she's moving up continually now the problem is that they're all chasing the person that's 40 50 points ahead of them but there are legal troubles ahead for the former president we know that there's going to be trial dates around key campaign dates super Tuesday for example The former president could be in court And I think right now what you're seeing is the donors are starting to realize we have to put our money behind somebody that we think can not only beat Trump in the GOP primary, but could also be President Biden in general. Nikki Haley's campaign has done that in terms of speaking to moderates and independents and Latinos and bringing in that coalition of voters. And I think right now the ear of those donors she has caught on because of the messaging, because of the way she's performed in these debates.

2:05:55 Well, so she by the way she's gaining ground in South Carolina where she was the governor. Yeah I'd hope you get some support sounds to me like some of these special interests and donors are they're hedging their bets here because they don't think Trump can beat the rap and they want to have a backup horse Yeah, that's what it sounds like. She's not going to beat any Democrat in my opinion. I don't think... she might not even beat Kamala Harris That would be a great combination to see. It would be dynamite for the show. Two women... two chicks for the show. Mimi was bitching the other day about how you know i think things are... I said what are you talking about this is all great for this show! Really Mimi? Get a clue lady! But I saw a picture of Mimi and she looks great I love the color her hair now

2:06:53 She's got kind of that... She changes it. Yeah, I like it! I like it a lot I do. On with the final clip of Nikki Haley expanding on that point, what is Nikki Haley doing right? That the donors are backing her Well, I think the biggest thing has been dehumanizing word She has used this a bunch of different times when speaking about issues that Republicans have been getting hammered on in The midterm specifically around abortion women's reproductive rights she mentioned in the first debate with Martha McCallum from Fox News She mentioned it recently in the other debate Another big thing that I was telling somebody this, a Republican strategist this is right now the US is involved in two wars and there's a third potential looming with respect to whatever China does with Taiwan. We have Russia Ukraine we have what's happening with Israel Hamas even though there's a pause right now on the fighting.

2:07:41 And I think foreign policy wise, Nikki Haley is way above some of these other candidates. Specifically Vivek Ramaswamy we've seen the back and forth he's had about Vladimir Putin and the way they would talk to President Xi of China so i think that's what's happening right now. Foreign policy affects the US economy it affects things at home here even though voters tend to rank as lower issues The billionaire donors know that President Trump ran on no new wars and being able to navigate the foreign policy waters. And I think Nikki Haley is carrying that torch, she was a former ambassador to the UN and right now she has put out the best plan in terms of messaging around what she would do for our allies involved in these wars and putting out the fires that could potentially come if China were to invade Taiwan. That's why I think the money is shifting towards her

2:08:33 She's a big war monger. Pro-Ukraine War! Yes, military industrial complex... What is he talking about? The guy that is full of it he's part of the scheme. Oh, of course. This Nikki Haley thing is getting on my nerves I can tell. I can tell. No, its um Yes, she is a war. She's a warmonger. She's a hawk and she's McCain Democrat And you know when you think about the Koch brothers they don't they make stuff for war I'm sure they make stuff for war their oil company Yeah The Oil Guys are behind we're having dinner with the oil baron in Texas oil Baron

2:09:10 You did? No, we're having dinner next Wednesday. And so I'm going to talk to him about it because I know that buddies of his and he may also be a Nikki supporter...I'm gonna ask! Because we know that really those guys want a Democrat to win because that's how they... Well just look at the price of Exxon stock if you want some confirmation. Exactly. Biden gets in, the stock soars. Yes beautiful its beautiful Even though they're patriotic and they, you know, pro-America but Nikki Haley may just be what the doctor ordered.

2:09:50 With that upside down smile. I think that's what bothers me the most about her. I don't like her look in general, she got... Yeah just because she has an upside down smile that is like borderlining on a grimace and she's glib! She's horribly glib. If we could just be very superficial for a moment and incredibly sexist That's what our show does. Because that's what they do in real life especially in executive suites She got saddlebags. She shouldn't be wearing jeans, or she should wear a jacket." Well that part I didn't get to that. I didn't go that far. But you know... I'm a fashion guy! Done with her face. I'm a fashion guy. Normally I'm a face guy. You're a fash- yes. Normally I'm a face guy but yeah the up like you know she does not have a pleasant smile no it just has scowl kind of Yeah it's like borderline scowl

2:10:46 Yeah, but it's gonna resort to nothing. It's just not going to work! Do these people really believe that? I think it's a backup hedge and if Trump beats the rap which I think he will...I mean I don't think any of these cases will actually happen before the election do you think They're gonna try well, they would like to find something to do to lock him up. Yeah literally yeah Yeah Well he can still run as for president when he's locked up candy. Yeah He can and probably win yeah And then he can pardon himself and good to go I don't know about that this big issue nobody knows for sure It would be good for the show who wouldn't here's the gears the question for the showing for the listeners in for them troll room and for The producers

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Speculation on Donald Trump's Vice Presidential Pick

Adam and John speculate on potential running mates for Donald Trump in 2024. They dismiss Nikki Haley as a possibility and suggest Sarah Huckabee Sanders might be a strong choice, while reflecting on the "hedged bet" that was Mike Pence in 2016.

donald trump· vice president· sarah huckabee sanders· vivek ramaswamy· mike pence

2:11:38 Who's Trumps vice president? We've been pretty good at predicting these things. Well, but here's what I would do if i was him Nikki Haley! No she hates trump she won't do it uh I can't see that this another be another bad selection It's going to ask for an assassination no Nikki Haley is out Okay I have another option then comic strip blogger Alex Jones, anybody! You think he has an idea? Do you seriously think he has a thought about that right now. He must I guess Well somebody must But i have not heard any speculation on any of these people like to speculate about this and that I've heard nothing in regards to Trump's vice president Sarah Huckabee

2:12:32 Sarah Huckabee would be good, except it would be like, oh look he's taking a press secretary and making her vice president. Well she is also I guess the governor of Arkansas so maybe that is something but Sarah Huckabee would be great. Then the only...Vivec? Actually calling now, calling Sarah Huckabee I think is a good call. Hmm. But she's of course not chimed in. I haven't heard anything from the Huckabee camp, because he has his own show that the old man does. That could be a goofball vice president. What was Pence? He was a disc jockey!

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Merriam-Webster Word of the Year and "Authentic"

Merriam-Webster names "authentic" as the word of the year for 2023, citing high search volume. The hosts express skepticism about the dictionary's data and suggest that "indict" would have been a more culturally relevant choice given the year's news events.

merriam-webster· word of the year· authentic· deepfake· indict· dictionary

2:13:11 They threw him in there. Pants was just a... they were hedging their bets with pants hoping for the best and got pants We have quite a lot to talk about in our donation segment People decided, hey I want a PhD before this ends And I want to talk a lot about it In case you hadn't. Yes, this is the worst group that were last minute Charlies. Last Minute Charlies? This is a new they're all last minute Charlie's and because they decided at the very last minute they could have done this weeks ago where does it come in at the last minute as a huge list massive yeah and day all or less so last-minute charlie's are the most talkative when they could but we're gonna edit on the fly

2:14:02 Whereas if they'd done this a week ago or two weeks ago, we probably read the whole note. Where does this come last? Where's this come from last-minute Charlie? It's gotta go back to the 30s with some cartoon probably in the comic maybe Charlie Chaplin Charlie Chaplin last minute Charlie Charlie's last definitely not Charlie Chaplin But before we do that We have a couple of important business things when you take care of one is The word of the year. Merriam-Webster is keeping it real this year, the dictionary company says authentic is the word of the year It's based on large numbers of searches for the term and its meaning runners up influenced greatly by news events included deepfake coronation and indict I wish indicted one died indict would have been much better

2:14:55 It's the word of the year! Indict. No, instead it's authentic What do you think people have been searching for when they're looking and why do you need a definition? Of the word authentic that are you moron because that's what they said is based upon Searches yeah for definitely lies Oh You think Miriam Webster lies and then the last thing Which is cropping up and I think we're gonna be hearing more of this And it came through a kind of a Roundabout way. I'd heard the term before because I knew that Amsterdam has implemented this Amsterdam run by his socialist mayor But it's extremely socialist mayor It's called the donut economy have you heard of this term? The doughnut economy Oh So the doughnut economy, I think if we had policemen out there they may have heard of it

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Kate Raworth and the "Donut Economy" Framework

The hosts examine the "Donut Economy," a visual framework for sustainable development created by Kate Raworth and adopted by the city of Amsterdam. They mock the concept's terminology—such as the "fleshy part" and the "hole"—as a convoluted socialist model designed to replace GDP growth with ecological limits.

donut economy· kate raworth· amsterdam· sustainable development· gdp· planetary boundaries

2:15:51 Wow. Actually, I have a Wikipedia has a definition of visual framework for sustainable development shaped like a donut or life belt And Amsterdam has implemented this. It's called the Amsterdam City Donut, The Donut Economy and it stems from a lady Kate Raworth who invented this word and she is doing the circuit now because of course she wrote a book about it. Everyone is talking about the donut economy I think it will catch legs! I think its got legs! I don't think so. Ah really?

2:16:33 Well, my first initial impression was about the police having a donut. That's a deal killer! Would you like to hear her explain the doughnut economy? Oh yeah sure Tell me about your doughnuts tell me the inspiration behind the doughnuts and Tell me the inspiration behind you, the donut. She's fallen apart already. What the donut means? So the doughnut I offer you is the only one that actually turns out to be good for us it's incredibly healthy because it's a vision for thriving life but yes think of a doughnut the kind with a hole in the middle and and think of humanity's use of Earth resources radiating out from the center of that picture. This means that the hole in the middle of the donut is a place where people are left falling short on the essentials of life, That's where people who don't have the resources for health and education for housing and security for income and voice are falling short We want to leave nobody in the donuts hole

2:17:29 Now you could say that was a very 20th century goal. Increase our economies, grow GDP and everyone will have the resources they need to meet their needs so we have to add to this a very 21st century understanding that as we use Earth's resources we come up against an ecological limit beyond which we must not go because that is where we overturn transform the life support systems. We depend on this living planet, we depend upon a stable climate and fertile soils and healthy oceans thriving ecosystems and when economies seek to grow forever they undermine that delicate web of life Do you understand it yet?

2:18:15 No, she's full of shit whatever she is saying. This is not going anywhere nice try lady I think...I'm telling you this is going places no well one more clip and take a bite out it So the donut says leave no one in the hole but don't overshoot earth limits and this is the goal we strive for so the hole is that vortex in the middle where people plunge into poverty and deprivation yes edges are the diseases of civilization or excesses harming the planet, using more than you need. This guy gets it! And forcing more people in the middle... So the fleshy part is a good part, the healthy part If you had to describe the current state of The Global Donut and the current fleshy part is that a very thin one

2:19:11 So the current state of the global donut is a double whammy crisis. Billions of people are falling short, billions of people live in that hole in middle we know that billions of people don't have enough food to eat every day or have clean water many kids do not go to school millions and billions of people have no access to the most fundamental primary health care And at the same time, collectively humanity has overshot at least six of the nine planetary boundaries we recognize on climate breakdown. There it is! On land conversion, on biodiversity loss and excessive fertilizer use So this is our inheritance in the beginning of the 21st century and it's resulting from a deeply degenerative and divisive economic model that the 20th century led us into I'm telling you

2:19:59 Everyone's gonna be talking about the donut economy because it's so convoluted and so retarded. People will use it! I love the global donuts No one is going to use it You want to put- You heard it here last Do you want to put five bucks on it? If I could take that out of 500, you're gonna owe me shortly Okay What do you mean what do you mean shortly? What are you- what So, no I'm not betting on any of this. Betting on the show is a bad idea It means it tells the producers that we got money to throw away! Oh $500 dollars, that's right throwing it away okay

2:20:38 I'm telling you the global donut. And it's a thing that will never end, it's not like something that has got no end point. Well... I'll put five bucks up by the end of now and just not even worth is too much work to create them boundaries around the bet Yeah, we don't need to bet on it. But I have a good feeling about this one. Oh you'll never hear it again! Amsterdam is the shining sparkle... The glaze on the global donut. Yeah that glaze is not sugar. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you the man who put the C in the last minute charlies say hello to my friend on the other end and only Mr John C Devora!

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Stream, Troll Room, and Technical Issues

The hosts acknowledge the "trolls" in the live studio audience and discuss technical aspects of the show's production, including the use of Clean Feed and the No Agenda Art Generator. They mention hardware issues currently affecting the art generator site managed by Sir Paul Couture.

troll room· clean feed· no agenda social· paul couture· podcast apps· technical support

2:21:27 In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet and air subs and the royal roll of dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room! Hello Trolls! Oh no no 1745 we're failing We're failing. Trolls are deserting us. Yeah, they're deserting us left and right. I think they get sick of it It was the donut! I apologize The donut you drove them off. I drove them off with a donut So sorry By the way we've driven a lot of people off in the past couple weeks

2:22:04 Why is that? Oh, we wouldn't choose a side in Israel versus Hamas. Yeah it gets people worked up yeah and I just want to say... We have a lot of people sending us those things best shows ever well i would say that we don't want to be liked we just want to be respected you know so yeah that's the ticket That'll get us through Christmas! But I mean that with you know you will not goad us into it stupid social media fights. We're just deconstructing media showing you what's happening. It's all we do, yeah and we come up with some gems from time to time Yeah the donut being one of them A topper Thank you well come on! We had a bagel, we had a donut if you know That's true we got that breakfast foods are the theme for today show Breakfast foods are the theme

2:22:58 I want to thank the trolls for being here. We appreciate you, um... You always have interesting- you help us a lot! For sure, you help me a lot so i appreciate it Um..I always have my eye out of the corner and I've developed this skill where sometimes they're just like oh there's something going on look over there and there's the troll room with the answer or something going on yeah you know we're good a good segue The trolls are important It's a live studio audience People should try this more often If you're doing a podcast, if you dare. But she don't have to do editing post-production now we don't do any of that We'd also don't have cameras and sitting there with headphones We are just two guys who have some expertise And we love sharing it with you and the trolls are part of that and we appreciate it and and it's good to troll here So get out of your system because it just goes away It goes away true You don't get in trouble, you know, you don't get and you can sleep easily

2:23:57 You know, it's like when you troll trolling the troll room. That's why it's called the troll room dot IO trolling dot IO or use a modern podcast app which you can get at podcast apps dot com which has this a lot of cool features including the live feature didn't get into trollroom boy going to no agenda stream calm It's the same thing as troll room dot io it goes to the same place But yeah if you want to call Noah gender Why did he say? Why do you bring that up because I went to it today to see why you weren't online I was online It was clean. I went to no agenda stream Oh, no, okay whatever there was still dare we had some issues connecting on a clean feed now That's okay We love clean feet just after it is good just after someone else email me How do you do that? They can't be just clean feed so well a lot of us clean feed and of course my how Do you what how do you create such a great sound between you and John?

2:24:51 I said 45 years of experience and clean feed. Clean feed is an element of it. Yeah, clean feed and 45 years of experience exactly yeah we know what to do what we're doing the 45 years it might help a little bit anyway Yeah, you can always participate in that. We appreciate you being here trolls You can of course troll along if you want and post your memes at no agenda social comm which luckily we have that going on today so sir Paul Couture can have the Since the generous he's art generator because we won't need to talk about it actually has he got it going yet? Let me check

2:25:31 Nope, nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. No, no seems like it's still a problem that that's that's not a good sign typically When it takes hours to bring something back from a hardware product That's yeah these systems are getting worse and worse over time I hope he doesn't have to make a trip to the data center That would be bad It's probably AI you know that attacked us Call Jen, tell her that we're having problems with the art generator. I'm sure we'll get some email submissions that will have to plow through... No no Paul Couture is managing on knowagenesocial.com and they'll tag us so it will be able to choose it right from there what we won't be able to do

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Interview with Mike Adams of Brighteon

Adam Curry discusses his recent interview with Mike Adams (the "Health Ranger") of Brighteon. They talk about the "Value for Value" model and the spread of the concept within the independent media landscape, noting that Adams' audience was highly receptive to the idea.

mike adams· brighteon· health ranger· value for value· podcasting· rumble

2:26:17 unfortunately, is thank our artists by critiquing them. Oh that's a shame! The only thing we can do... so we're Value for Value which is what we've been throughout the duration of this program oh I oh by the way I did my interview with Mike Adams from Brighteon Yeah, Mike Adams who's the Nature guy. No I don't think he is the same guy. No, I looked it up. Oh, he is? The guy who founded Brydian is the same guy He's the health ranger Is that it? Yeah. Well, he's a nice guy! Really nice... He seems like a really nice guy And he was very knowledgeable and his partner there on the podcast Todd, he is no agenda producer and he loves the show and had a lot to say about it but the cool...and he hasn't released yet but at certain point I want to give him kudos right so by the way Mike you know we talk about you know Brighteon often on this show he says do I usually goes like this

2:27:16 John will say, where did you get that clip from? Bridey on Rumble that's not true. I rarely know bright even as we rarely didn't be smirched bridey on only one is not true It's a lie That's not the only one is it really nutty clipped do we both say that must be from bridy off he thought it was funny So anyway, we appreciate him So yes, it's value for value. We talked about that a lot which he thought was outstanding people really love this idea you know it's spreading has become a term unto itself so instead of tipping or no

2:27:55 No, no value for value if you get any 4v4 V Value for value dot info. If you got anything before it was at number four in the middle if you get anything out of this podcast Which we don't have behind a paywall there's no tears no subscription no patreon level secret shows Secret bonus know what is a premium content? No, they're premium content is The premium content to me is the most insulting thing you can do as a podcaster. Yes, but next to going on Fox... I think it's basically insulting people should note that yes it is if you're listening to something and then they say If you want premium content subscribe to our Patreon yeah go to Locals Hello Scott Adams! It is insulting I agree

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Episode 1611 Artwork

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" philosophy, rejecting "premium content" paywalls in favor of voluntary producer contributions. They critique the artwork for Episode 1611 by Francisco Scaramanga, which featured RFK Jr. and a drone, debating the use of AI in its composition.

value for value· francisco scaramanga· rfk jr· ai art· podcast pro· paul couture

2:28:48 So we don't insult you. In fact, we don't even insult you by calling you fans or audience or listeners You are producers And douchebags. Well, there are douche bags and producers return value back to the show and you do it in three ways time talent or treasure There's so many ways that people contribute to this program boots on the ground making art is one of them Of course giving us leads information making clips making making whoopee and also promoting the show, hitting people in the mouth. There's many ways you can do that and we love our artists I wish we could critique all of them because these days close to 20 pieces of art

2:29:32 that we want to talk about why we didn't choose it. So, we'll just talk about the one that we did choose for episode 1611 We called that Podcast Pro Why do we title it podcast pro? I don't even remember why was that because there was so we were mocking The term because somebody in indicated in one of our clips at the you but we were playing It was long story, but it was a mockery Yes, clearly a mockery. Now the artwork was from Francisco Scaramanga who is now two in a row if he nails this next one it's the hat trick It's gonna be hard Well there were many pieces to choose from and we chose kind of I would say a compilation piece There were probably about five good pieces in that group This was a compilation piece

2:30:25 Which had, it had RFK Jr. Seal and Hawk... Which is the clincher by the way that's one of the reasons we picked this piece That was a clincher It was a cute little Ukrainian girl with a drone Then we thought that this has to be AI Oh totally. I would like to just scare him on and say it's not AI, but i think he did compose it because there was a couple pieces of AI put together then he obviously put the title in his and the Korean Dvorak thing on himself with an overlay but I think the basic

2:31:04 Peace with the girl and the drone is AI now that the seal and the hawk on the on the seals head was Hilarious stupid Just a little bit yet cute. Yeah, it had something good I got pushback from people hey man Falconing and his Hawking is not there's not a rich boy sport And he said well have you seen the video of our RFK jr? With this Hawks It looked pretty douchey to me. You know, walking out in the field having your hawk destroy another animal in midair I don't know it didn't feel kind of weird to me and well maybe it may be Not a rich you make thing Maybe most rich boys would never take it up and might be more confused with falconing I guess Falcon same thing Well falconing some of those birds go for a million bucks in Saudi Arabia in the desert

2:32:04 I mean, some of the birds go for a million bucks and it's a rich voice. I'm telling you some of those birds like, for example is bring up our executive producer in residence or Hollywood producer in residence David Brunetti he's actually made friends with the hawk like a friend really Yeah, a little hawk baby hawk sat next to me. He's documented most of us on his Instagram Oh a little baby hot Hawk started hanging out with him And as the hog grew up he'd come by and say hi everyone so I think he could Turn that hawk into a falcon for falconing and it would be maybe become worth a million I predict. No, I predict the seal is in his future in his pool Coming up next he's becoming an elitist well Thank you very much Francisco Scott Amanga and hopefully we'll Know who knows? You might as Johnson's gonna be tough but do you could have a hat trick there's only few who have done it

2:33:02 Then we hope we'll have, and of course thanks to Paul Couture for running the noagendaartgenerator.com for how many years? 12... 13 At least 10 well him and Randy Asher did a previous site which he lost there was Drupal that was headless Drupal That didn't run very well. I don't think the Drupal came later I think it when when couture took it over just soul as his solo, I think he's the one who implemented the Drupal code Okay Well, that didn't last. It became a new site, the old site which has a lot of old art in it is going to be lost all that I don't know well, I have a backup of you know up until about was it maybe six weeks ago? Believe me there's plenty of art Yeah there's art but it's sad when that happens particularly on a show day and Don't sweat it Sir Paul Couture we love you it'll work out don't worry about it so then what is left is a long list of lengthy notes

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda PhD Graduation and Executive Producer Donations

A massive list of "Last-Minute Charlies" who donated to receive the "No Agenda PhD" is read. Notable donors include Duke Frank of Frankness, Robert Dawson in Taiwan, and Sir Derek Protector of Star Lake. The hosts process various knighthoods, title upgrades, and "karma" requests for the graduating class of media deconstructionists.

phd· executive producer· knighthood· donations· last-minute charlies· karma

2:34:01 but much appreciated because it's great for the show of executive and associate executive producers. And, of course we have this was the Wednesday was the last day, the last day for the triple bagger of a no agenda PhD an official PhD certificate, the whole deal which begets you a instant night or incident and or title upgrade and an executive producership And wow, you know people just really came in at the last minute. Last-minute Charlies came in. Last Minute Charlies. Frank Ajzinsatz? I wonder if that's how you pronounce it... Ajzinsatz He is in Armadale Victoria Australia and I haven't seen one of these numbers in a while 1 2 5 6 8 7

2:34:53 There's got to be something up with that. Maybe that's what it takes to get to a thousand since his dollary dues, he says last day of PhD opportunity something I would not miss so a donation of one two five six eight seven which also takes me to the official US dollar total to become Duke Frank there you go to be known henceforth as the Duke frankness no jingles just some revenue generating karma Keep up the amazing work spreading the message and evidence about how inept and compromised most of the mainstream media is today Thank you. You nailed it there that's exactly what we do regards Frank Oh Agen start a go pronunciation guide Armadale, Victoria Australia Duke of frankness Yes, you shall be the duke in momentarily and here's that karma us for my friend. You've got karma Robert Dawson

2:35:46 who happens to be in Taiwan, came in with one two three four five six. And this took a while to get through he had to... He was working on Zelle and then he did something, he finally got some money through using Capital One going straight into the bank. Oh no! It was it was a week of work back and forth and back and forth So Jay was on that the whole time? No I was actually. He got it in and by the way, there will be some laggards that you know There's a guy who said send him pile. It does some stuff just gonna come in the mail is gonna be postmarked It's gonna be late so we have a few more of these pH We of course would have enough PhDs for all we don't care no

2:36:32 Except for the long notes, but luckily Dawson didn't have a long note He says looking forward to taking the seat next all the Knights and dames and new age PhDs at that illustrious roundtable I'll take a big portion of that mutton in mead. I'll bring high mountain oolong and the whole group At the end of our twice weekly banquets, he probably has these in Taiwan which has terrific food. He's having banquets twice a week. Cheers John and Adam thank you for all the bottom of my heart and my wife's bottom too! Ha! Here's to the next 16 years, karma all around. All right, karma all around! Thank you very much Robert Dawson You've got... Karma Karma and oolong Derek Heibrink Plymouth Minnesota 123456 ITM thank you for your media deconstruction no agenda has kept me company for over 10 years on long car rides and long distance runs please knight me sir Derek protector of Star Lake I'm looking forward to checking the graduate degree box in the next census

2:37:31 Yeah, I guess. Is there a box for that? I guess there is a box for that. Must be! Way to go. I like it. Jingles F Cancer Karma for all listeners. You've got karma. I checked the box because i thought that's what you meant. That was right man. Pluma 111111 RoaDix What's a roa... yeah so big roa dicks Lots of ground to cover today, forgive the lengthy note. I'm a proud monthly supporter as everyone should be! All caps and grateful is the common word to accurately describe what is gained through your tireless devotion to the process that production quality in the unparalleled lessons on deconstruction Wow

2:38:21 As a lifelong student, I'm thrilled to receive the No Agenda PhD executive producer etc. Hook up my soul sister Kelly Rigo with 11111 is $111.11 of producer credit for upcoming 40th birthday and keep track of that on January 4th." I hope she's on the list. This is a nightmare for Jay to put this thing together today. Other people would have quit And please decree me as Pluma Dame of the Feathered Whales. Oh, it's a her! Nice, Pluma. It's a her! Pluma is a Her! By trade I've worked in radio film TV festivals and events for more than a decade. I've held the creative producer role in event toward projects that raise consciousness and help us all become better humans which appears to be a lifelong mission

2:39:06 I'm between projects now and a very inspiring gig in Saudi Arabia is at a standstill. So, i am putting my faith on some sweet pagan jobs of karma Much yeah, I would some class you mentioned pagan jobs karma We have we have a number of people that refuse karma because they yeah cuz the pagan yes is pagan Yes, although it's not really in this case for them. It's no agenda Yeah divine assignment from the huihui shores of Hawaii she's in Hawaii Mahalo Nui Loa for your courage put Kelly Rigo on the birthday list and give her a biscuit They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Got that? Gem and bolt mezcal at the round table, full of fruit Alright here's your monk karma You've got karma I forgot about that one We have Kevin McLaughlin! Concord North Carolina our boob man And he comes What about Kirk? Oh sorry we got Kirk Pettis It scrolled past him

2:40:10 The spreadsheet. I'm sorry, Kirk Pettis Hopkins Minnesota 1100 Thank you John and Adam J O N Truly the best podcast in universe The last eleven years has ingrained inspiration and reverberation The PhD has triggered my vanity and forced the procrastination Hey! Made another rhyme King me... king me Knight me as Sir Rain the Kingmaker PhD Karma for all You've got karma So Kevin McLaughlin decides to come in and I would have never seen him as a last-minute Charlie since he's very consistent. He is Conquer North Carolina 108 oh, you've got boob in there one Oh eight or eight Which is a PhD with a boob donation include incorporated twist? It was cancer karma for all those who need it Could you please squeeze the melon mix by sound guy Steven at the end of the show and we did that

2:41:07 Uh, Archduke of Lunars. 1612. You bet boy. Oak Grove, Missouri. 1044. Sirs you both always make my day when listening My wife is so sick of me sitting with my ear pods on giggling to myself I've had the show on in the car many times Make her listen Oof! I've had the show on in the car many times during our constant travels She just doesn't get it Oh well Her loss...I figure

2:41:44 I've been a listener since episode 104. I did go back and listen to the previous 103 episodes as well, hahaha! I don't remember what the name of the show was that mentioned your podcast but it was Jack Love or something like that who at the time was a regular Alex Jones guest from Austin Texas he was copying your value for value system That's not copying, that is open source we want people to move forward with this It is the only way forward The ONLY WAY I was so intrigued by this way of doing business that i had to listen in. I'd say, in a roundabout way my donations are an Alex Jones donation! He's always right by the way even though I no longer listened to him unless Adam is a guest. I would humbly ask to become Sir Curl The Wagons protector of the Missouri Ozarks from Moberly South to Branson This is definitely the most beautiful part of the country of ours. I've set in place a plan that allows no agenda listeners... oh yes

2:42:38 The opportunity to visit the Ozarks, please release this email to NoAgendaNation. It's noagendareservations at gmail dot com and any reservations of his properties will be discounted 60 to 70 percent if you email him. We've seen his properties, they're nice properties in the Ozarks If you're looking for a trip there then definitely hit him up And he wants the Jingles Fisting Nuts and The Whole Load I got that for ya Just go for it John Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on airplanes I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because its just so annoying to watch

2:43:20 Guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile of them into the palm of his hand, and then he makes a fist around the nuts. Around the nuts... I'm gonna give you the whole load today! There ya go it's a little too long it's not quite a jingle so there you go man thank you Matt Liebeck in Rimrock, Arizona. There's another one we had to go back for the get he wanted it do a direct deposit managed to go through PayPal anyway 1033 dot three three and that 3-3 dot 33 is the PayPal fee which thank you Thank you very much. I'll keep it short and sweet Couldn't pass up the PhD from the guys who taught me so much

2:44:03 And I need a deduction You've been D douched. I'll take the show credit in the PhD but like to pass the knighthood to my dad John That's well, hopefully that got on there. Yeah, I think it did god bless you both and no jingles No karma Thanks for your courage and is pronounced Lee Bick Lee Bick not Liebich Lee Bick Matt Leibach Justin Frank Polgar is in Santa Cruz, California. 1033 and a penny! In the morning professors Currie and Dvorak thank you for your dedication to this craft chocolate blessings to all Gitmo nationals put those blessings in your mouth at yescocoa.com

2:44:44 Yes, coco.com! That's Coco with a C-A-O. The C-A-C-A-O yeah ITM gets you 11% off I earned my bachelor's degree in introspective humanistic behavior from UC Santa Cruz yes i created the major I've spent the last 15 years making chocolate and rehearsing reality not for the greater good but for the greatest great God wins After thousands of hours of amygdala squashing on the 333rd day of 2023, a PhD in media deconstruction is the next obvious yes. Can't wait to hear Adam's motivational commencement speech! For my—it's going to be a long one—for my knighthood I shall be known as Sir Yes Sir for the feast please have durian uni and my hot wife on a platter

2:45:27 I'll bring the chocolate. For jingles, it's a good time for The Shapeshifting Jews, JCDs Antz and Pasta Glock! You're asking for a lot my friend... hold on a second It's uh... Antz Oh man It's all gonna be short pieces of it because this would by itself six minutes if we played all of it Nice fade, Curry.

2:46:14 I got ants. Man, I can't find it... I got ants. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun! You racist piece of shit! I've got to my pasta glock locked and loaded! Pew pew There we go. These are not jingles, these are mixes. Yeah these are not jingles people I will mention this since he did mention it about getting a... He made his own major at the University of California system throughout the state you can make up your own major Really? And you just go to your council counselor will put together with the courses you need and so you could get a degree in media deconstruction from Cal Berkeley if you

2:47:07 Wanted to but yeah, you know just you get one from the no agenda show for less money and Cal Berkeley It'll cost you a hundred fifty thousand dollars Sir, Midnight of the Rivers in Pensacola Florida 1022.52 PhD with a small duck-duck gray duck donation Minnesnota producers will understand Please give me a title change to Sir Jason Rivers and some F cancer karma Thank you for your courage And thank you for your courage You've got karma. Sir Don with a thousand thirteen and a swazzling off at the end 69 cents I went to college for eight years from 1998 to 2006 earned five bachelor's degrees, a doctorate wasn't available for my field of interest they've been completely worthless in my professional life sounds about right listening to the best podcast in the universe for the last 16 years

2:48:02 has provided far more education and the lifelong value than college ever could, even the alcohol and drugs part. I threw my diplomas away many years ago, but i will proudly hang the no agenda PhD on my office wall. I'd also like to say happy birthday to my smoking hot mill fiance Dame Audra of Legoland who celebrates 45 trips around the sun December 1st love you most baby Unfortunately seems to be called out as a douchebag for not donating for nearly two years well that's not real...douche bag is someone has never donated so you're kind of harsh on your Lovely lady there. She says, baronet sounds too feminine for the savage beast of a man I am so until I reach Baron status I humbly request the title change from Sir Don to Dr. Don So she can brag about marrying a doctor Can you please play the French Bulldog F-35 goat screams capped with R2D2 relationship karma? Oh my goodness Okay It's not exactly the way you call it

2:49:06 I can do some of that, yes. I think I can. Uh, please de-douche? You've been de-douched. Please call out my douchebag nephew Ty Walker. He says I think you need to have something worse than a douche bag because you use it for people like my douchebag nephew Blake Walker!

2:49:54 So is that another douchebag? Who didn't have the common courtesy to hit me in the mouth. Minor switcheroo, please credit five dollars you do all the accounting for Ty Blake I don't want douchebags at my house through the holidays. I'm keeping the thousands from my knighthood and PhD Please Knight me sir Viper 515 He's like a Parrots Bay coconut rum 90 and a barks red cream soda and West Milton, Ohio fireman's waffles. You only get two at the round table we'll give you all of them. Jingles whooping with the Constitution Sharpton and hoping for no exit strategy M Scott Clark. Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind!

2:50:43 My god Yes, I see what you got somewhere to be no. I'm here okay Then we have Jack Ash, Snohomish Washington. $1,033. That's a great name! In the morning, gents. I've been meaning to donate for a while now but kept putting it off as I've been meaning to put a note together with a little insight slash boots on the ground on a few things y'all have mentioned over the last several months I've been listening more earnestly. I heard Adam on Rogan a few years back and listened sporadically until early this year Anyway this is not that note Thank you Just bugging you guys for a title and another sheepskin I'd like to known as Sir Jack Ash

2:51:39 Pronounced as one word akin to jackass. Yeah, I got it wandering Sasquatch of the Gardena Snohomish and Wataga Valleys Hereafter the monikers Jack Ash or that damn sasquatch will suffice aside from the standard fare. I'd like to will again cook coo Kiwi-lango burger from Bareback Grill, Pizza Port Beer Buddies, Jagger fries from Fred's Rivertown Alehouse and Apex IPA from Sound to submitting brewing squas at the round table. You only get two! Don't do these things... They're just doing it to... This is... you're a narcissist but we love you

2:52:20 OXO, 0x0 to more closely match Adam's 5x5 how I see it when he says 5x5 in my shorthand. No jingles no karma thanks again gents! Thank you Jack Ash. So long Jack Ash. Chris Fosgate, 1000 parts unknown. Congratulations on making it to 1611 well 1612 now No agenda is the only source of news I can stand these days So very glad that you both invest your time in superior media deconstruction Skills, thanks for all you do. Night me Sir Chris night in the Kansas City real estate no jingles no karma there ya go there's a note. That's a note how about this one though Joel Hanson from Modesto California 1000 sir shmole of the skinny white guys Keystone light and kibble for my noble steeds you guys rock thank you for your courage now that's what I call a good note Andy Cracciolo in Phoenix Arizona

2:53:20 Which is also where they put a lot of people in witness protection. Oh really? One thousand! ITM gentlemen, it's been over a year since my last donation this almost sounds like time... Almost sounds like TIME since my last donation Anywhooo Life has been tragic and all over the place, but I won't bore you with that information. I just wanted to wish you two a belated Thanksgiving have an amazing end of year You deserve a lot more than you've ever received for all the hard work in entertainment you provide Thank you so much for everything! I have no idea what my current title is last was Baron Crack ruler of Arizona and Cabo But I think it with this I hopefully get a PhD And then if I'm late then enjoy the spoils extra mutton and meat please

2:54:07 And the f-35 gold screen karma scream you've got No! Karma. Hmm Robin Robson or Robeson I guess Robeson 1000 John. I'm near spasm He's in Canada. I'll say he's from spasm is I had it so you always gets a laugh in Canada? We told the story before I was given my first speech and it was in Vancouver and the guy comes out of me says you want to get A laugh, I said yeah, this is just somehow working that town name of spasm

2:55:07 I got a huge laugh. Yes, of course. I shall henceforth be known as Sir Robin of the Wack. Chilliwack BC get it? Candinavia! Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. I couldn't pass up this chance to become a PhD Knight. Rogan donation. Anonymous comes in with a switcheroo. Adam and John, hope this finds you well! $1,000 I'm writing as i am making a one thousand dollar donation to the show an honor of my friend Tom Tom introduced me and several others to no agenda in 2019 we haven't been here since the beginning but we have been here through COVID Ukraine and all the distractions Tom's wife went to heaven a few weeks ago at the much too young age of 43 oh man

2:55:51 leaving behind Tom and their three wonderful kids. I'm sure he has, it sounds like he has a great set of friends and community around him So in memory of Tom's wife we are making the donation such that Tom forever claims his seat at the No Agenda Roundtable And knows the support of all the knights dames and douchebags that make up The No Agenda Family! Tom will be known as Sir Thomas Lord Of The Ham Radio Hobbits No karma, please. But we do wish for a dedouche- You've been de-douched And we also request full throated That's Bullcrap from John That's bull crap! That is one of the best ones you've done that may be a show opener Well they can use that for their ringtone Do people still do ringtones?

2:56:38 It's even called a ringtone. Yeah, I think some people do and most people... The one that is the most annoying is the people who have the phone ring That lousy old-fashioned ring. Yeah, it's just not annoying. Remco de Vrijer De Vrijer! De Vrijer! In penis Rotterdam Pernis! Pernis Oh, I thought it says penis. Yeah no sense there's an R in there. Pernis. Oh, 1000 I missed it! About two years ago I hired Dame Tuthola following a tweet about her being fired for not getting the shot. She immediately hit me in the mouth and I never missed this show since

2:57:21 I'm glad that i am no longer a douchebag Remco and would like to be known as Sir Remco, Knight of Tevisa and the Spanish refuge of Ribera Debra. I expect Dame Tutola to change my name accordingly on her phone contacts. She now has me listed as douchebag Remo! No jingles but health karma for everyone who needs it, keep up the good work. Sir Remco Knight of Tevisa and Spanish Refuge of Ribeira Debra. From penis the Netherlands, yes. Penis the Netherlands. You've got karma. And the ducks go crazy! Oh look at this we have www.wilddirtco.com

2:58:09 Hello, for my Instant Night please dub me Sir Viber of Still Waters and de-douche me. You've been dedouched! And because I have this opportunity... ...I'm offering all No Agenda producers $333 off any land purchase as well as a $330 switcheroo donation in your name if you go to www.wilddirtco.com and buy some land We specialize in super rural and desirable parcels of raw land, homestead or bug out all with payment plan options. How about that? I gotta look at that myself! Well that's some business... I love the bug out! I need some bug out land

2:58:48 Bug out, man. We had a very busy season are running low on inventory. Oh well stocks last! The 333 plus 333 deal at wilddirtco.com is open to you from now until eternity thank you for your service PS A PSA, really? We are currently in a golden age of memes and some of the best curated memes are found on No Agenda Social. However fellow memers we can do better no likes and no boosts means your post is subpar! And you failed to hit the mark let's up our game boys and girls stop posting trash I'm with ya on that that so that's exactly what i want to say

2:59:27 Well, that was well put. I want to look at wilddirtco.com While you do that i'm going to go to Vouse... Vouse? Vouse! Viscount of Hamilton 1,000. Greetings from the beautiful Westfield Indiana that's where he is from this is the Viscount of Hamilton and the two pennies supporting your excellent program signing up for the PhD for myself and also to Insta Dame my better half as one those split donations and obtain a PhD for her as well ah! He does have a second one here from the Viscount of Hamilton for Dame Missy also $1,000 so he has put $2,000 in it should be at the top

3:00:05 She is certainly worthy of a Devin listen since the beginning hitting me in the mouth as it'd be a surprise early Christmas gift for her For now let her be Dame Missy for the ceremony and she can let you know if she prefers another name God willing We will be at the indie meetup on Monday. Monday, Monday, Monday! Monday so no J No K And god bless you both yours truly the Viscount of Hamilton into two pennies So okay The Wild Dirt Co Over seven years in the business of flipping wild dirt. Fantastic. Anonymous with a thousand, can I please request Ben Shapiro? Oh my god! Do we have that? That's not a jingo... I don't know that we do. When I read this note and said oh no... No, that's not him. But that's Ben. No, that's not him. I don't think we have Ben Shapiro doing that.

3:01:03 No, that's not Ben Shapiro. Is this one Ben Shapiro? Oh my god... Nope we don't have Ben Shapiro sorry. We don't have it logged No, I don't think we've ever had that one. That's just the bottom line. We've never had that. Followed by a Space Force from Trump... Yes! Space Force! Got that. I would like to be known as Sir Big A please for my night name thank you for everything you do. I listen to NO Agenda every Tuesday and Thursday. Oh it's interesting because we do it on Sundays but it's fine if you listen to it on Tuesday Thank you. Where's he from? He might be in Australia doesn't say. Well, he probably just listens to the Sunday show on Tuesday Yeah I guess okay Mike D's up and he's in for $1,000 and he says just like college I have waited To the last minute to turn in my paperwork there we go At least he's honest about it yeah I surely wanted to make the deadline for the no agenda PhD in media deconstruction all

3:01:58 Already more proud of this PhD than I am of my bachelors in business from Kansas State. Go ahead and de-douche me. You've been de-douched! At the round table I have what Adam's having along with a glass of tepid water, oh he's a podcaster and a wine bottle of whatever John is drinking. Please knight me Sir Mike Dee of the 7 Billion Rising. I'm a real estate broker in Texas, oh he's in Texas going on 20 years in last few years like concentrated more on creative financing in buying and selling property, leaving the banks out of it. There you go. Give a ring at 7billionrising.org He's got a story to tell I thank you two for showing up for us with an amazing podcast twice a week your media deconstruction is tops! I hope you never exit this fight much love for your leadership and everyone part of the No Agenda Nation from my new homestead in Kyle Texas where's Kylie? Kyle Texas no jingles Kyle Kyle Texas yes Thank You Mike

3:03:00 Nicholas Schroeder, 1000. Salutations Professors Currie and Dvorak having previously obtained knighthood in the title of Sergeant of Arms Protector of the Round Table under a pseudonym used in creative writing exercises I must now submit my tuition paid in full for the education received over the years from this honorable institution I am beyond ecstatic to have officially obtained my doctorate and i'm looking forward to the benefits that such a prestigious title will afford me. I'm appreciative for all the work you have done in the advanced and somewhat controversial field of media deconstruction thank you for your courage, and know that I regard this amount paid in my poverty but a fraction of the value received over the years keeping us safe and sane from all of the games at the corporate media plays on the public for the benefit of the highest bidder well put

3:03:45 I'm forever in your debt for the knowledge and the prompting to better myself in so many ways, including getting things as small as obtaining my ham radio license at Adam's Direction because John wouldn't renew his. I renewed it! I think you have... I hope to continue paying it back and forward in any way possible while I won't share my Brazilian hottie, I will bring cachaca to the graduation party to share with my... Cachacha Yeah, cachacha What is cachacha? It's a white, it's like a white rum only it is more like the Brazilian version. And we got that! And its got this very distinctive flavor that is made with sugar cane but has really different taste. Its delicious! Excellent! Cachaca is here

3:04:33 And I will share that with my... Kshasa. Kshasa. I know, I mispronounce it constantly. Penis Rotterdam. Penis Rotterdam. Kshasa. Penis To the graduation party to share with my cohort of fellow producers for this episode 73's respectfully deconstructed Nicholas J Schroeder 73's to you kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie did not add your call sign! Okay We'll let you slide. EGundirect.com check it out best weapons dealers on planet earth they've got every gun I've ever... They got a lot of good guns on that site worth looking at i'm going over there just the guns with Jay talking about them you know this is a 22 what

3:05:28 Sir Pants in Brookfield, Wisconsin comes in with another thousand and a switcheroo PhD for sir ass crack. Nice! He's the brother of Sir Pants give him some gentleman farming karma. You've got Karma All right, then we have that was kind of cool. We have Quint Y Newell With a thousand in the morning gents PhD me please no jingles No karma plenty of love and light to know agenda nation love you twos from quints Thank you And I'll do Henry Coco Zoli $1,000 no note and resolvent technologies Inc $1000 no note double up karma for you guys thank you so much you've got

3:06:15 Karma. Danielle Lawson in Night Me Sir Love, $1,000. Night Me Sir Love and Baron of Bay Ridge in Kings County New York any insights about pawns in the game or Whitney Webb books? Give me a Moe karma jingle please yeah you got other things to do with your time You've got. MoCom? Aaron Bojorkes, Bojorkes Mission Viejo California thousand please knight me Knight Filippo of the Barburia Plains. Baburia yeah. Baburia Verdo- Verdolagas with

3:07:08 What is it John? Go ahead, just pronounce it for me already. No go... I don't know... Verdolagos. I mean, I don't know what it is. Verdologas with pork and green sauce in a glass of cold tapache? Tapache? If I can't pronounce it, its hard for me to serve it! Yeah, well... you're out of luck. This is the way they talk in Mission Viejo! That's- oh that's the problem? Okay. Thank you Dr. Aaron Arnaldo Boyarquez. Boyarquez. This is tough Yeah, I'm not sure either. Sir Yogi! That's easier... in West Richland Washington a thousand. By the way we should mention this is an excessive... It is this is not your... it's very abnormal but we love it

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Final PhD Donors and "Boots on the Ground" Notes

The final group of PhD donors is acknowledged, including Scott McNulty, a former CBC employee who lost his job due to vaccine mandates. Other donors include real estate brokers and long-time listeners who shared personal stories of "hitting people in the mouth" with the show's message.

phd· donations· cbc· fifth project· real estate· knighthood· karma

3:07:59 Because it'll pay the bills till February, March. We don't even start getting donations again till March. Oh no! It's gonna be... It goes dead. It will be dead. I was waiting to get home from California road trip if uh if To see if there was enough cash left over to get myself a PhD yeah On the last day while heading home, we went to our favorite coffee joint and what was handwritten on the cup lids but the number 33. There you go! I shit you not! The writing was on the lid! Oh no! The universe is telling me to get that PhD thanks for all your doing keeping being my smoking hot dame saint Peace and love to you both Sir Yogi Knight of the Carnival Midways can i get a goat karma for everybody? You've got... Karma

3:08:51 And we have another thousand from Sir Gooch of RVA. Gooch! No jingles, no karma just the PhD thank you no exit plan please You got it We're still here Joe Acton Main 1,000. I've been listening for a few years and i haven't missed the show since I started listening but I have to admit that was starting to feel guilty about being a douchebag kept thinking I should probably take advantage of the PSD program because they always wanted some higher education credentials and became a night at same time how can pass this up? But just couldn't pull the trigger then on the 33rd day of the year I looked at my phone it had 3333 unread emails

3:09:36 This was a sign. It's time to give back and do my part, and hopefully keep you guys from finding an exit strategy. Please de-doosh me! You've been de-dooshed. For jingles play some classic Sharpton F35 health karma for everybody And he'll be knighted Sir Jolly the Brave of the Maine Mountains R E S P I C T He finishes, he wants a bacon cheeseburger. Hey! Hey! Be quiet during the karma. He wants... be quiet during the karma You've got... Karma Put this on your list. He wants a bacon cheese burger and Chateau Latour I wouldn't mind having one of those myself Which year's Chateau Latour should we have? Oh okay let's make it 2005 Okay Chateau

3:10:35 La Tour. Isn't that made by the Rothschilds? No, no that's Mouton and Lafitte Michael Halb or Halby 1000 no note get you a double up karma thank you very much You've got... Karma Jonathan Lang as we race to the end. Thousand, humbly requesting a de-douching and all purpose jobs Carmen. You've been de-douched! I do declare myself Sir No Please and a scholar

3:11:13 For those in the Memphis area, keep an eye out for a meetup soon. Once you requested it... One of you requested it a month or two back. Thank you for your courage. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! We have Scott McNulty Due to my affiliation with various secret societies, which shall henceforth never be mentioned again I had to wait until the ninth hour of the eve of the solar day of 333 in order to make my donation for obvious reasons. When the moon is in the house of the sun's first light, the seed is born!

3:11:53 We dive at dawn. I was working at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC embedded in the news department. I've been there for over a decade when the first global native ad for the UN-led big pharma military industrial complex CoPro was launched! I lost my family and job to groupthink in that battle... Wow They were all spellbound by the black magic of propaganda. The silver lining is that I no longer work at the Ministry of Truth, since then my field of art direction and graphic design have been requiring the jabs for jobs around here until only two months ago in order to get by i've been painting houses and playing guitar in the Toronto Art Rock Band fifth project with a K

3:12:31 Wow! That guy. Yeah, we love you for this man I like this guy Fifth Project's latest EP The Wolf made it to number 23 across Canada on campus radio in 2023 If you love a warm embrace and a kiss to your third eye or female fronted psychedelic art rock You can pick up a copy of the wolf during tomorrow Band Camp Friday and all proceeds will go to us We're an independent band. You rely on value for value just like NOAH Agenda Search for 5th Project with a K on Bandcamp.com to have a listen That's 5th project with the k we're on all the socials too I've been listening to this isn't how I love this note when you listening to no agenda regularly since Adams JRE debut So, this is long overdue and this first time deduces You've been D do not only comes with a PhD but our proper nighting to woohoo

3:13:25 Once WTC 7 you'll go or yay. Oh really? Jobs karma, that's not on my notes. Oh oh shoot my God this Eve that wasn't even a micelle That's so that's it's a big note It's a big note here we but the guy I have to give anyone credit who went through who is an art director that was so Yes. Honest with himself that he figures you know, you can make money other ways but he'll go back into it He's obviously a talented person WTC 7 won't come away! Yay! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Yeah! Karma On the other extreme we have Alex Orish

3:14:16 with a thousand dollars note and so I get double up karma. You've got... Karma Eric, Eric Hulbritter South Ogden Utah 1000 in the morning as a successful professional procrastinator I'm finally funding my PhD tuition thank you for your courage oh I'm sorry jingle requests I'm going to come I want to get rid of that one it's i can't even find it half the time It's not, that's not what it is. It's Trump. It's Trump probably Trump something. I can't find it. Hold on hold on stupid! I do not like this one. Trump come and then goat scream okay. I'm gonna come! You've got karma Todd Machera in

3:15:13 Looks like, oh he's ITM from behind the lines in Chicago. He's a thousand dollars thank you both for your service please knight me as Todd Zell the unvaccinated no jingles no karma not an anonymous donation proud to support you both Thank You James Bartles 1000 no location, but he's been a listener since episode number one. Thank you for all you do Thank You James night name sir Jim of KC stagehands needs work. He says What is this stuff Aniracetam? That's what it sounds like. Aniracetam and bulletproof coffee for the roundtable Jobs, karma and goat for everybody! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! Misa, Karma We have Meg Kinney

3:16:07 First time donation, she came with a thousand. I come to the No Agenda family in around about way from the Glenn Beck program. Oh there you are! That does happen. Worked out. I was hit in the mouth by my best friend Karen. I was taking a break from Glenn Beck sometimes doom and gloom but my friend was listening and heard Adam sounding a lot like me Or was it me sounding a lot like Adam? Either way, she knew right away you were my people. I was listening to your archives from 2020 to 21 and you do sound like me! So it only makes sense that I should earn a doctorate in media deconstruction. I look forward to your episodes and thank you both and the Noah Jenner Nation for all you do." She must be Dame Kenny of the Megalodon... That's the giant shark

3:16:56 She'd like Guinness and medium rare tomahawk steak at the round table. And he's all hell breaking loose, cause you're gonna need a Bitcoin or we're all going to die in yay! Stay strong Yes... That's Manning yes okay I got those for ya They are saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin We are all gonna die! Yay!! That's a good combo. It is an interesting combo. Sir, let me make sure I've got your rare tomahawk Guinness and medium-rare tomahawk steak. While you're getting that, I'm going to go to Sir Henry. He's in Austin Texas right around the corner from you. The donation makes me a baron gives me a PhD. I am a happy man!

3:17:45 Sir Henry, that's the note we like. Yeah we do like that Andrew Herman Edmonton Alberta Canada in the morning John thanks my donation of $1,046 and 31 that's canuck bucks Canuck Bucks please add me to the PhD an executive producership or end an instant knighting list A douchebag no more. Sir Andrew Herman, Edmonton Alberta I guess we'll give him a... You've been de-douched Yeah he'l get bumped up Amy Thurmond in Westfield Indiana 665

3:18:23 Greetings from Amy in Westfield, Indiana. Could not meet the podfather in December without first claiming my dame... Oh she's gonna be at the Meetup! My smoking hot husband Sir Craig of the Dark Moon hit me in the mouth years ago I'm a better human for it please bestow upon me the title Dame Amy of The Shining Sea I generally try to stay healthy by limiting carbs fat, sugar, sodium. So at the round table I'd like to pay homage to my Indian roots and fortify my food depraved soul by requesting a giant breaded pork tenderloin and chocolate miracle whip cake. They'll do it for all you do. God we've got some death bound here for ya

3:19:09 Sir Penton's serpent serpentine sir Lance interesting. Oh, it's a switcheroo serpentine Scarborough Queensland Australia six five four dot three two clips f cancer you've got karma we got that for this is which rude donation from sir Pantene night of the Reek of the recluse peninsular I guess this donation of 1038 Australian dollar reduce is for my father Soon to be incinerated Sir Lance, Knight of the Northern Rivers. Oh that's just lovely we make sure we Do that. Phoebe's going nuts. Please play him F Cancer and You've Got Karma jingles, I know you can defeat this dad! We both enjoy your entertaining informative podcast immensely. I'm hoping that i made it in time for a 1000 Aussie dollar-a-doo doctorate in PH media... PhD media... Phoebe! In PhD media deconstruction from my dad. Yeah of course and here's uh here's your f cancer It works.

3:20:08 You've got karma. I've appreciated the bi-weekly deconstruction since learning of your show and the Hireside Chats. Oh yes! Hireside Chat donation a couple years back, Adam in my first donation I asked what your favorite conspiracy was and you said you don't like them at all so I'll rephrase what conspiracy do find the most interesting? Fake Space Hollow Earth Operation High Jump there's got to be something oh John i'm glad you brought back the three by three and hope to hear it more often

3:20:57 Jingles, Climategate chemtrails Obama sucking in soot. Thanks and enjoy the holidays John Yes I would say Operation High Jump is my favorite To the gate to the gate to the climategates Chemtrails Sucking in soot Boom Joanne Fortune isn't we're or where North Hampshire 333 I've listened to you live for the last year and a half and you've changed my life. I've moved to the freedom state of New Hampshire in New Hampshire And I go to the meetups you two rock my world Thank you, and thank you for your courage, and thank you Joanne. I'm very nice note We have Jackie Green the famous guitarist in Orangevale California Jackie

3:21:48 Jackie, Jackie Green. 333 love you mean it perfect note Not as good as Tyler Holm from Westminster Colorado first associate executive producer 250 no notes so you gotta double up karma You've got And so that lets us end with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. 200. Now she requests jobs Karma and wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

3:22:23 It's delicious! That's Image Makers Inc. with the K dot com or just find Linda Loupatkin under this show's producer list Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You stop, karma That was quite funny Well, thank you all very much. This has been quite the pre-Christmas surprise and of course everyone here who came in with the correct amount is going to get a PhD. It's rather long list of nightings and PhDs but I'm happy to do it we love you for it We have meetups to talk about as well there so much still going on at The No Agenda Show

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthood and PhD Commencement Ceremony

Adam and John conduct the formal commencement ceremony for the new Knights, Dames, and PhD graduates. They list the symbolic food and drink items brought to the "Round Table" and direct the new producers to NoAgendaRings.com to claim their certificates and physical rings.

knighthood· phd· commencement· round table· rings· certificates

3:21:48 Jackie, Jackie Green. 333 love you mean it perfect note Not as good as Tyler Holm from Westminster Colorado first associate executive producer 250 no notes so you gotta double up karma You've got And so that lets us end with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. 200. Now she requests jobs Karma and wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

3:22:23 It's delicious! That's Image Makers Inc. with the K dot com or just find Linda Loupatkin under this show's producer list Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You stop, karma That was quite funny Well, thank you all very much. This has been quite the pre-Christmas surprise and of course everyone here who came in with the correct amount is going to get a PhD. It's rather long list of nightings and PhDs but I'm happy to do it we love you for it We have meetups to talk about as well there so much still going on at The No Agenda Show

3:23:01 but especially our executive and associate executive producers. Thank you for supporting us we enjoy support from anybody the whole point of value for value is you give us what the show delivers in value to you. That may just be $5 a month, and if that's all you can afford we love you just as much and appreciate you! You don't have to be an executive producer to help the show. In fact if everybody gave just five dollars it would be fantastic. That never happens so we appreciate these execs and associate execs for paying it forward for others and of course enjoying their instant nights and dames and their PhDs

3:23:41 I'll get ready for the for all the ceremonies John will take us through a very quick small list in the 50s Yeah, there's a small list left over of people who just donated it wishes what we're all were gonna get from now on Sir Michael Raguse in Tustin California $100 happy holidays He says Kevin McLaughlin does come in and conquer North Carolina with yet another 808 what a great life is better with boobs. He says true Edward Owens 8008 he's an Alameda The Island of Boobs. Diana, Dana, Dana Carroll in Laughlin Nevada. Ugh! Laughlin 7227 Craig Kohler in Evansville Indiana 6502 Sir Pitenam 61 parts unknown Jamie Buell in Vista California 6006 a boobs donation small and for fact here comes Kevin McLaughlin once again at 6006

3:24:39 Boobs are the reason bras were invented. He says surprise night surprise night in Yukon, Oklahoma 5444 Colleen Garrett and Carrie North Carolina which is where curiously near Kevin McLaughlin I believe Happy birthday to me my gift to you $54 Eric vocal in Mulrose Deutschland we haven't heard from him for a while and there he is And there he is with the right spelling on his name. Yes, it's a spreadsheet. It's beautiful 52 Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs Iowa 5001 and here we go wrapping it up with $50 donators starting with John Taylor In Florissant Colorado Sir Richard Gardner I believe New York City Aaron Weis Gerber in Bend Oregon Michael Elmore in Gastonia North Carolina

3:25:35 Zev Green in Teaneck, New Jersey. David Steele in Mobile Alabama or mobile Jason Kaler and Bluffton Indiana Ray Howard in Kremling Colorado Kyle Shaw shopper is shaper in new Albany Ohio as opposed to old Albany Ohio didn't know was the Julie Minden a min Deo in Costa Mesa Kyle Mann in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jill Woods in Ocean Grove New Jersey. Brian Locklear and Sugar Hill Georgia and last on our list the inimitable Ryan Sharp in Huntsville Alabama I want to thank all these people for making this is a great show as short shows 1612 and this will make up for a lot of slower shows coming

3:26:28 And thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers. Those titles are real, and you can use them anywhere titles are recognized of course that can be on your resume it could be on your LinkedIn profile it's a good place to put or if you don't have one you might not open up a profile in imdb.com It is completely valid You'll see many show business heavyweights there and a lot more added today If you'd like to become a producer any amount including under $50 which I never mentioned for anonymity reasons Please, think of the sustaining donations which can be just a few dollars a month or week or whatever you want. Go to... And let me give everybody one last go Karma. You've got... Karma! And thank you for supporting No Agenda Show episode 1612 Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Words

3:27:30 Order! Shut up, slave! It's your birthday, birthday! Oh so much, yeah! We got lots of lists on the list. Birthdays today Faith Ann Bazor which is Dave Bazor happy birthday he turned 50 on the 23rd Jim Bobway boss of Shotzi-Lan Happy birthday to his wife Viscountess Maryann Schneeberger she celebrated on the 25th Aaron Borger-Kes celebrating or celebrating in the 28th Tina Selby which is Tylen Selby, happy birthday turned 33 on the 28th. Colleen Garrett celebrated yesterday Sir Don wishes his smoking hot mill fiance Dame Audra of Legoland a happy birthday turning 45 tomorrow and Pluma says happy birthday to Kelly Rego turning 40 on January 4th Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!

3:28:28 Come gather round douchebag, producer and slave As we all thank your brother brothers and sisters who gave And some of them nights Some of them days For the titles are a-changing Well by request we bring in the Bob Dylan Titles Are A Change. We have title changes for Sir Frank Azenstat who becomes Duke of Frankness, Sir Midnight of the Rivers becomes Baronet Sir Jason Rivers. Sir Dave the Reformed becomes a baronet, he becomes Sir Dave the Reformed Baronet and Sir Henry becomes a Baron.

3:29:09 Alright, time now to congratulate our PhD graduates. Frank Asenstadt Robert Dawson Derek Heidenbrink Pluma Kirk Pettis Kevin McLaughlin BioLife member Drury Matt Liebig Justin Frank Polgar Sir Midnight at the River Sir Don M Scott Clark Jack Ash Sir Fosgate Joel Hanson Andy Kakarikolo, something like that. Sir Dave the reformed baronet Robin Robson Tom Remco de Freyre wild dirt co.com Viscount of Hamilton Dame Missy anonymous Mike D Nicholas Schroeder sir pants Quint wine Newell Henry Coccos only resolving technologies Inc Daniel Lawson Aaron Borges sir yogi sir Gucha of RVA Joe Michael Hal

3:29:55 Welcome new NOA Agenda MD PhD to the Society of the Learned Person. You've got in just under the wire, we congratulate USA from this point forward. Go forth and spread the no agenda word far and wide because we will not be silenced, we will not be deterred! The truth is out there now go...and find it I'm glad i can retire this

3:30:33 Yeah, I hopefully we missed anybody. I hope they got everybody I even have Jay texting me on the fly with some nights that had missed the list so let's do them now that I have everything completed Let's get it this is my blade. Here's mine Get the bigger one you take a hold it and just keep it oh Okay, well that feels kind of good. Up on the podium please! Pluma! Missy! Amy Thurman! Robert Dawson! Derek Heibrink! Kirk Pettis! BioLife member Drury! Justin Frank Polgar M Scott Clark Jack Ash Robin Robson Tom Remco de Freire Viber Anonymous Mike D Daniel Lawson Aaron Borroquez Joe Jonathan Lang Scott McNulty Todd Massera James Bartles

3:31:25 Margaret Kenney, Chris Fosgate, Joel Hansen Sir Schmoll Andrew Herman and Lance All of you are about to become knights-in-dains of the Noah-Junner Round Table I am very proud to pronounce K.V as... Sir Robert Dawson Sir Derek Protector Of The Star Lake Sir Rain The Kingmaker PhD Sir Curl The Wagon's Protector Of Missouri Ozarks From The Moberly South To Branson Sir Yes Sir Sir Viper 515 Wandering Sasquatch of the Gardena, Snohomish and Watauga Valleys. Sir Robin of the Wack Chili-Wack Candanavia! Sir Thomas Lord Of The Ham Radio Hobbits. Sir Remco Knight of Tivisa and Spanish Refuge of Ribeir Deber. Sir Vibrer of Still Waters. Sir Big A. Sir Mike D of 7 Billion Rising. Sir Love and Baron of Bayridge in Kings County New York City. Knight Filipillo of

3:32:18 Barbara Plains, Sir Jolly the Brave of the Maine Mountains. Sir No-Please, Sir Scott O'Matrix of the Scandinavian High Grounds, Sir Toddsell The Unvaccinated, Sir Jim Of The Casey Stagehands, Dame Kenny of the Megaladon Sir Chris Knight of the Kansas City real estate sir Schmoll sir Andrew Herman and sir Lance night of the northern rivers And for you we have lined up here at the roundtable. Let me stop that for a second We I need some hookers and blow! Red Poison Chardonnay. We also have High Mountain Oolong Gem & Bold Mezcal, Parrots Bay Coconut Rum 90 Proof, Barks Red Cream Soda, West Milton Ohio Fireman's Waffles, Durian

3:33:07 and his hot wife on a platter. Kewelango burger from the bareback grill, pizza port beer buddies, Jagger fries from Fred's Rivertown Alehouse and Apex IPA from The Sound to Summit Brewing Quas Keystone lightin' kibbles glass of tepid water in a wine bottle Verdolagas with pork and green sauce in a glass of cold Tepache Anricacetam and Bulletproof Coffee, Giant Breaded Pork Tenderloin in a Chocolate Miracle Whip Cake Bacon Cheeseburger and a Chateau Latour And a Guinness and a Medium Rare Tomahawk Steak And of course Mutton and Mead Please go to noagenderrings.com that is where you will find Well, first of all beautiful pictures of the night and dame rings You can see that if you fill out your ring size There's a handy ring sizing guide there send us your address We will send you the knowledge in the night or dame ring whichever one you want we don't discriminate

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Global No Agenda Meetups and "Connection is Protection"

The hosts announce upcoming No Agenda meetups in Denver, Tilburg, Louisiana, and a major event in Indianapolis featuring a live "Ask Adam" segment. They emphasize the slogan "Connection is Protection," highlighting the importance of building local communities of listeners.

meetups· denver· tilburg· indianapolis· connection is protection· community

3:34:00 and along with a certificate of authenticity, and some wax to seal your important correspondence with. If you have a PhD go to the same website noagendarings.com select the PhD and of course put in the name that you want on your certificate and we'll send it out to the address you provide as well thank you all so much for supporting Your No Agenda Show! You're not done with me yet? No, no. You're not done! We got some meetups today the Mile High Meetup 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado we have in Tilburg probably over by now but they may be listening all stoned the one week after another Parliament election in the Netherlands meet up it started 8 o'clock and the Beer Cafe Gdynski in Tilburg The Netherlands tomorrow the Thanksgiving Therapy Meet Up 630 at

3:34:51 I stroma brewery in st. Gabriel Louisiana on Friday as well the Fort Wayne Auburn Bluffton bus go no agenda Club 33 meet up one o'clock crazy pins Fort Wayne Indiana on Saturday the Connecticut ugly sweater party two o'clock at the truck Park in Higginham, Connecticut. Beach Girls organizing the 208 Treasure Valley Boise Meetup three o'clock on Saturday at the Powder House Brewery Garden City Idaho and on Sunday the next show day a meet up in Cheyenne one o'clock and that'll be at Chronicles Distillery in Cheyenne, Wyoming. And a reminder on Monday December 4th Indianapolis Indiana it will be a no agenda meetup there's about 75 or 80 people are expected we'll be doing a live Ask Adam on stage and the keeper will be with me that's it you're no agenda meetups this is what you need as a companion to the show everybody knows it

3:35:42 In fact, the Indiana meetup was started because Mark and Maria we talked to them. We had a zoom meeting to make sure they want to make sure we were comfortable with everything they started then Indianapolis Indy Meet up because they felt that they needed to have people and a community in case we went through something we went through in the past three years. And I really respect that, and they know what the slogan is. Connection Is Protection. NoahJenOfMeetups.com if you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days Wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Good News: Cement Truck Driver Jeff Hannes Saves Choking Woman

The "Good News" segment features cement truck driver Jeff Hannes, who saved a woman's life by performing the Heimlich maneuver after she signaled she was choking on fast food. For his heroism, Hannes and his family were awarded courtside seats by the Chicago Bulls.

jeff hannes· heimlich maneuver· chicago bulls· good news· hero· truck driver

3:36:23 Be where everybody feels the same It's like a pod Now I got a couple of ISOs, I wanna fly by you see if you'd like any of them. Ready? Sure! I think the proof is in the pudding. That's not bad...not bad Next one Wow whoa look at that And then maybe this one Podcast police Put the mic down put the mic down That was inaudible. I know it was the podcast police put the mics down yes, all right What's you guys think? I beat all those yeah probably let's start with and when is little offbeat goal Yes, that's out then let's go to the obvious thank you. Thank you this cute oh

3:37:20 Cute and then unbelievable. Literally unbelievable! That's the best one, it's the clearest It punches through everything and we are literally unbelievable. Literally unbelievable? I think that's the one! Tell me you got a good news clip, John. I always have a good news clip... I did notice something should be noted this is from the Norville Insight Edition when you have syndicated network shows they keep it short and sweet the local Good news goes on for five minutes. They talk to the neighbors We can't have that they can't keep it tight locally not tight keep it tight people So here we go heroes can be found everywhere This one was behind the wheel of a truck when a woman who was choking approached and Riccardo reports He's now being called an angel You're probably not used to seeing a truck driver like this chilling out two classical violin in his big rig I

3:38:22 But his moment of calm is suddenly disrupted. A woman pulls up in front of his truck, she in obvious distress. The truck driver saw she had one hand to her throat then raised both hands and was giving him the international symbol for choking. He jumps out of his truck and immediately realizes it's a life or death crisis. Then he grabs her from behind and administers the life-saving Heimlich maneuver with three thrust under the rib cage. And out came the fast food she was choking on! In an instant, the ordeal was over when truck driver escorted back to her car, he noticed two toddlers in the back seat. Here's the hero today cement truck driver Jeff Hannes. I was in a right place at the right time and did my opinion what most would have done

3:39:09 humble hero. And for that good deed the Chicago Bulls gave Jeff and his family courtside seats. What do you want? Goodies! When do we want them? Now please! They left out the part where the Chicago Bulls gave him the courtside seat because the Chicago Bulls are chokers I liked that. It was a great good news story, I like the part about the international sign for choking which i didn't notice. Yeah never heard that either. International sign and uh... that she was choking on some fast food! This was a dynamite end to this sixteen hundred and twelfth episode of The No Agenda Show Of course we have end-of-show mixes coming up by request We got sound guy Steve

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Outro, End-of-Show Mixes, and Final Reflections

The show concludes with a series of end-of-show mixes, including a "melon" themed mix by Sound Guy Steve and a political montage. The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to return for the next episode of media deconstruction.

sound guy steve· kevin mclaughlin· melons· trump· media deconstruction· outro

3:39:59 Oh, we have the AI mix from Coconut Peak which is kind of funny. End of show mix from the Clip Custodian Neil Jones and Sir Dr I the no agenda stream calm website or troll room.io up next we have unrelenting That's with that's with Darren and sir gene all right, that should be beautiful Thank you all so much for some celebrating your PhDs with us Thank you for supporting your know agenda show coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country in a femur region number six in The morning everybody

3:40:34 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. Dvorak. Meet us back here again on Sunday! We'll be right back and we'll do another three hours of media deconstruction for you. Remember us in the meantime at dvorak dot org slash na noagenda donation dot com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such! In the air, we're steps where truths collide We're floating but still stand side by side Earth brings their kind and revel in the sea The truth seeks eternity in every part you see So it's time to whisper in the dark

3:41:38 True tales hitting every mark Valued listeners embrace Their voices ranting through chaos state Support their show, and shoot through the light There's a human eye, counting through free thoughts The music, spirits of steel, no age and a chance it was really great I love melons! Did you know there are over 40 different types of melons out there? Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina says honeydew melons. He just wrote that in there for some reason. He likes melons. Golden delicious melons. The Galea melon. Horned melons. How many melons are there in the world? There are over 40 different types of melons. Summertime is a perfect time to show off your melons ladies

3:42:39 Honey globe melons honey globe and melons tasty camouflage melons choppers in aisle three camouflage melons Jade melon donation jade do is another little melon And I've had those, they're pretty good. I think the Tuscan melon's my favorite. Ah you just love melons! The Picasso Melon. Calabash Melons That's Calabash Melons The Kiss Melon It's got a big tongue that comes out of it. The Papaya Melon. The Balin Melon. The Yubari King Melon Autumn Sweets. Autumn Sweets is the melon of choice for connoisseurs He's gonna run out of melons by the way

3:43:20 I don't know how many melons varieties there are. But he hasn't even said watermelon yet! Exactly Cantola melon, another one i've never heard of but you know... How long will he be able to come up with melon names? Korean melons. I love his melon assortment. Gak melons The ananas melon! Never had one. The Sprite Melon. Charante melons, which is literally a melon Kevin McLaughlin's back this time promoting the Snap Melon for YouTube View Score. I LOVE MELONS Children today they think the internet is their iPhone Hey I got Google I got the Internet They've got apps

3:44:05 Apps? Come on! People have never... Well, they always thought the web was the internet too if you really want to go back to it. Yes! It was! It still is! But it never was The web- no but the web is an open communication hyperlinking system that runs on the internet That sits atop of the internet Yeah but its one step closer to Its not a platform The web is not a platform Twitter is a platform, Facebook is a platform. Google is a platform Your iPhone app store is a platform These are platforms that they will regulate to their own desire The web is still the last place Trump...Trump...Trump is telling us what he intends to do Trump means to throw people in jail who disagree with him

3:45:00 Listen to what he says because he's telling us what he will do. He says, let's remove all doubt this is what I'm about. This is what I'm about. This is what I'm about. He will execute whoever he's allowed Take him at his word. Boom! Predilection, predilection for revenge

3:45:45 Look at his past. Trump is telling us what he intends to do He has to be eliminated Literally unbelievable.