Episode 1444 · Thursday, 21 April 2022

Lawful but Awful

A new push for podcast censorship emerges as Florida strips Disney of its self-governing powers and federal courts dismantle the national transportation mask mandate.

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About this episode

The Brookings Institution is advocating for stricter podcast content moderation, labeling certain legal speech as "lawful but awful" in a move that could force platforms like Spotify and Apple to implement aggressive reporting mechanisms. This regulatory push coincides with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and state legislators moving to terminate Disney's Reedy Creek Improvement District. The repeal of this special self-governing status follows Disney's public opposition to the Parental Rights in Education bill, signaling a major shift in the relationship between the state and its largest corporate entities.

Global tensions escalate as Vladimir Putin oversees the test launch of a new intercontinental ballistic missile while the United States commits over $4 billion in military aid to Ukraine, including 155mm Howitzers. Despite this influx of weaponry, Defense Department officials admit to having zero fidelity in tracking these assets once they enter the fog of war. Domestically, a federal judge in Florida has overturned the CDC mask mandate for public transportation, ruling that the agency exceeded its regulatory authority. This decision has prompted immediate policy changes from major carriers including American Airlines, Uber, and Lyft.

Journalistic ethics are under fire as the Washington Post and Taylor Lorenz face scrutiny for aggressive reporting tactics and doxing. Meanwhile, the University of Central Florida football team replaced player numbers with QR codes, sparking theories about the normalization of digital tracking. The episode also features a culinary review of yak meat from Desert End Limited in Montrose, Colorado, and a breakdown of the Italian cartoon character Calimero as a metaphor for modern political grievances.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Yak Meat Tasting, Desert End Limited Ranch

John C. Dvorak describes his experience cooking and eating yak meat, comparing its texture and fat content to Wagyu beef. The discussion covers the biological differences of yaks, including their grazing habits and maturity rates, which contribute to the high cost of the product. Dvorak identifies his supplier as Desert End Limited, located in Montrose, Colorado.

yak meat· wagyu· desert end limited· montrose colorado· dell yaks

00:00 Boo, I want to wear a mask. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday April 21st 2022 this is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media assassination episode 1444 This is no agenda Spotting smoke! Standby Caliber and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am back from a yak fest Literally...I'm John C. Dvorak Man you leave me with yak, you come back to me with yak. Yakity-yak! Don't talk back How was it? how was your yak I was actually stunned What does it taste like? Does it taste like antelope? Does it taste... what is the taste like giraffe? I mean what does it taste like It uh..I'd say it's somewhere between first of all let's just

00:55 It's the most unbelievable hamburger I think i've ever made and there was no seasoning whatsoever. It says some salt, it's light It has a broad spectrum flavor. How about that? But it's extremely tender, it's extremely light, and has the same kind of fat that Wagyu has so it's a healthy meat except for instead of Wagyu is extremely lean. It's like 90% but for lean, lean meat, it's extremely tender. It's hard to explain but it stunned everybody. Good!

01:43 And did you, did everyone still put ketchup and mayonnaise and mustard and relish on it? Well there was a sauce that you could eat. This is the sauce on the hamburger bun which has sauce and tomatoes and stuff but it's beside the point. You could tell The Yak was an exceptional product now since everyone was all jacked up about it JC of course started immediately doing research and discovered some of the issues with The Yak It tastes like, takes like three times longer to get the yuck to maturity to eat it. So that's expensive. It can't eat...it can't eat at a feedlot refuses to do so. So it's only going to eat out in the wild. In the wild? Yeah, it's a grazer and it's not like you know cows are grazers too but they don't need their feed lot anything if want to feed them cookies. Oh yeah good!

02:36 They had I think it only has two or three stomachs, two stomachs maybe doesn't have four. But i'm telling you. You are telling us that sounds like its dynamite. It is a stunner! Sounds like it's a good product all right well we should sell those no agenda yak where's your know agendayak.com people come on let's get this going. So my Yak out as I mentioned this my Yak supplier currently If you can write this down, they're going to Dell Yaks. D-E-L Yaks which is Desert End Limited and he's in Montrose Colorado and I think you can find him at well just desertend.net Yes! And chicks dig this when you present them with yak Hey we really stepped in it

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Taylor Lorenz, Washington Post Online Harassment Controversy

The hosts analyze the public controversy surrounding Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz and her reports on online harassment. They review a clip of Lorenz discussing her mental health struggles and PTSD, contrasting her public emotional displays with her professional tactics of doxing others. The segment references commentary from Glenn Greenwald and Megan Kelly regarding Lorenz's history of "skin picking" and "hair pulling" disorders.

taylor lorenz· washington post· glenn greenwald· megan kelly· tricotillomania

03:36 on the last show. What did we do? Well, we had this whole conversation about online harassment of women little did I know what was where this was coming from...I don't know if you've seen the incredible controversy with Taylor Lorenz of The Washington Post Oh, Taylor Lorenz. I mean that's... she is the target of with good reason just so you know this is where it all came from this is why they're doing these big pieces about harassing women online and we were appropriately cavalier about this specific harassment online but what I noticed

04:20 I got a lot of feedback from women saying, well you know it really triggered me this conversation because it seemed like you were just brushing it aside and I've been harassed throughout my life. It kind of crossed over you know it's like well. Yes, harassment in real life in the workplace etc completely inappropriate Those are douchebags But when you're online I mean how do we even know if the target is a woman to be honest about it? but yeah You don't know what's coming from really could be a kid at 12 year old and your all bent out of shape it was so somehow this week I guess we missed it but it was brewing and then this Taylor Lorenz, we'll just get through this quickly don't have to spend too much time on it. She is she worked at the New York Times then left for The Washington Post what kind of superstar millennial is this if she's a millennial? I think she got arrested from The Times right but why because he so incredibly good no she makes she's the one who they account

05:22 She's really a target of Matt IAB and to an extreme Glenn Greenwald Tucker Carlson all these suspects they'll hate her because she lies, and she makes stuff up And she cries on camera. Oh wait here about his harassed Here's the crying on camera This is actually before She went out and did the same thing too To the libs if we don't have to get into that story everybody knows it But I just love hearing this clip this hypocrisy. I've had to remove every single social tie, i had severe PTSD from this, I contemplated suicide it got really bad you feel like any little piece of information that gets out on you will be used by the worst people on the internet to destroy your life and its so isolating and terrifying! It's horrifying! I'm so sorry! It's overwhelming

06:21 That was so good. There you go, you're mocking the poor crying woman! Oh I am and i'm mocking her because when I saw this like oh this girl's not well she needs some help because if you're in the business of journalism and you are pitching your stories online and your in many cases doxing outing people doing really kind of horrible things terrible things yeah then you know then you going to get this back at ya it is just going to happen And I think a lot of A lot of journalists are irked by it. But this conversation between Megan Kelly and Glenn Greenwald, just a short minute here... There's a little more going on with Taylor Lorenz! I'm like you're right that I feel zero empathy for her. Zero because she's created this life for herself She's the worst about doing this to others And then when called out on the consequences of her choice of profession she's made this her work

07:21 When called on the consequences that she unleashes on others, she wants us to feel sorry for her. Well I don't and it's a pattern! She released a tweet...I know you've retweeted this and i think we've got it talking about her many like psychological issues do we have it Debbie? Here's what she tweeted June of 2021 This is definitely TMI and well I will probably delete but I'm honestly so proud and I want to share it something people might not know is I have very bad Tricotillomania and Dermo... And this is the first time in my life that I haven't had an open wound on my head. The bottom line is these things are hair, it's a hair pulling disorder and skin picking disorder which they describe from the Mayo Clinic as mental illness. These are mental illnesses related to obsessive compulsive disorder." So if you have...and sure its serious! If your pulling your hair out and picking your skin You need help and probably shouldn't be in public eye where people can say nasty things to you

08:23 Well, the question is this you actually have I actually knew somebody had a disorder and they complained about it because it's annoying with them Yeah, cuz I pull your hair out. Yeah, I can see why that would be annoying yeah It was mostly the skin picking there was he get little itchy spot And then they pick and pick and pick at it until we get to use or did you pick too much? um There's a lot of other things going on with her whether she has that or not. It's it's she's a She's done a great job of promoting herself to a position of Of a high paid working journalist and the grief that she creates I don't know what how she keeps your jobs to be honest about it, but she's very talented at it and

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Journalistic Ethics, Deadline Pressure Tactics

A discussion on the aggressive tactics used by mainstream journalists at the Washington Post and New York Times when seeking comments from subjects. The hosts describe the "on deadline" pressure tactic used to force immediate responses or justify publishing incomplete stories. They debate whether this practice is a professional courtesy or a manipulative strategy to control narratives.

journalism ethics· washington post· new york times· deadlines· media savvy

09:10 I don't know what to make of her. No, it's not that important but what i really despise because I saw some of these emails she was sending people you know asking for comment and this has happened in fact this happened to me just the other week where a reporter will email you and say on deadline! I have a deadline! I need to know within the next hour I'm exaggerating. But there's some lawsuit taking place in the Netherlands and a journalist asked me, hey are you apart of this? Did you get screwed by these guys? And I said no comment! I am not interested in this topic. Then they came back with okay well so will you confirm or deny that you were screwed out for 100 thousand euros but I don't even know what they're talking about

10:01 But you know, and you can't even reply to that. You just have to leave it alone but this whole I need to know I'm on deadline on deadline within an hour otherwise we're going to go with what we have This is the chicken shit i really hate from big press Washington Post and New York Times does that too Is that a typical journalist thing? I'll go on the other side of the argument. Please do! I'm doing this piece, the editor wants it in by 2 and i'm calling around at noon but basically I am on deadline meaning I have a deadline that if I don't meet it says I gotta produce whatever I got or they don't even run it which is generally what happens and so you call them

10:50 saying you're on deadline is a courtesy to people in the know who are usually media savvy and they know that, okay I can get you something in time or I can't. And they usually say if your media savvy you say, I can't help you, I won't be able to get anything. Or what? You go what is your deadline exactly and then they come back with two o'clock and then you say I can't do anything, I can't help it sorry Right, but then they come back with okay. So we're going this is literally what she did no They shouldn't do that That's what she said if you ask him to dead did you ask him the deadline? No I'm telling you was happened with Taylor Lorenz aren't talking about me Oh, no Taylor or Renz says she's out of control. That's the one I'm talking about She says on deadline. You know cheese. No no oh yeah in Holland there was a just completely irrelevant

11:44 It's nothing to do just I was saying that. I know journalists do this and what they do is well if you don't have, so you know if you said okay I'm sorry can't help you You Don't Have Time her response would be great We're gonna go with what you have that you have a special relationship with that account yes Then they just assume this yeah That's Just A bad that's Thank you that's What I wanted To hear oh she's no good I was questioning Myself Was Christian Does That Sort of Thing This That's It's not right. I mean, I'm surprised even talking about her will draw her ire and we'll probably get some Oh No So hit piece to try to oh my and she's in ages if you listen to it She was on oh my good. I couldn't even clip it. It was so bad She was on with Jason Calacanis who now has Molly Wood working for him? Did you know that yeah Yeah, I did this week in startups is that was interesting

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Elon Musk Twitter Takeover, Florida Pension Fund Involvement

Elon Musk's attempt to acquire Twitter via a tender offer is examined alongside the political reactions from the Democratic Party. The segment highlights Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's potential involvement due to the state's pension fund holding Twitter shares. The hosts also criticize the tech podcast "This Week in Startups" for its perceived political bias regarding the acquisition.

elon musk· twitter· ron desantis· florida pension fund· tender offer

12:34 So, and they're like oh they love her. Oh she just threw another T-bomb! They're like all digging her and she gets on there and she's talking about you know these guys they have boomers on TikTok and she's really ageist It's just, I think this all is a... somehow it all comes together as part of Twitter and Elon Musk wanting to buy Twitter. Now apparently he is putting together a tender offer Somehow I think its related to that because- He's out of control! It seems like in the United States liberals and perhaps let's just say the Democrat party are really afraid that Twitter would not be under their

13:17 Their auspices, their thumb. It's like and it's kind of obvious I find it fascinating as much as you do There is a humor element to it too just watch them twist in the wind And Elon always got that smirk on his face like he knows what he's doing Yeah Well there was something some interesting connection so oh yes What is this? After Twitter rejects Musk offer DeSantis and Musk team up with a new strategy so implying that the governor of Florida is going to crab yeah, and you know how they make this connection because the state of Florida You know they have They have investments for the pension fund And the pension fund has it as a you know I own some some shares in Twitter So now it's like what Elon does something. Oh yeah, that's enough DeSantis is doing it too

14:19 They're together. Well a stretch it's fascinating that Callie Kandis and Molly Wood haven't got a clue but no no No, they oh man now I'm thinking I should have clipped it because all you hear is well You know GOP GOP GOP GOP why don't you say either once you call out whose really GOP is nothing? Republican National, you know the Republican Party. You know the national...the actual organization? No it's just more political bullcrap and the show is called This Week in Startups. Yeah but it sounds like other shows that are supposedly tech shows and just want to talk about politics. Exactly well we'll talk about some tech here's my favorite Netflix! I know who could have predicted that eh?!

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Netflix Subscriber Loss, Ad-Supported Tier Strategy

Netflix stock plummeted 25% following the announcement of its first subscriber loss in over a decade. The company attributed the decline to password sharing, competition, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, while the hosts argue the platform's "woke" programming is a primary factor. Netflix plans to pivot toward a free, ad-supported tier to recover revenue.

netflix· reed hastings· streaming services· password sharing· woke content

15:10 Well, you know there were signals. There were signs. Oh John we've been saying this for years! We've been calling Netflix a Ponzi scheme for years. It's a Ponzi scheme. Yes but I know it was... You can almost say the same thing about Tesla. Sure! The stock has skyrocketed. Of course. It maintained a very high number. It was very hard to short and people We talk about this on the DHM Plug Show all the time, but shorting Netflix was like taking real gamble because they just had everything going on to keep shorts from working out. But everyone kept wanting to do it and so now that it actually collapsed practically I mean once these stocks start to go down

16:00 Yeah, the bottom is zero people or movies not 200 when we play this overnight Netflix stock plunging as much as 25% after the streaming powerhouse announced it lost subscribers for the first time in more than a decade Just when you think it couldn't get any worse. It just does Netflix blaming more competition illegal password sharing and Russia's invasion of Ukraine She said no legal password sharing. Putin! That's nonsense, they encouraged password sharing amongst families Of course they do five members I think and but it's Putin Well i don't think they had a number but all these services Hulu Netflix Amazon they all encourage password sharing

16:46 Get get beyond the password sharing. It's Putin don't you understand? Word sharing and Russia's invasion of Ukraine the company ended the first quarter Sorry, I'd love to know how Russia's invasion of Ukraine Is that because the Ukrainians are stopped watching and you know like oh we're getting invaded cancel Netflix It seems to me that if anyone's gonna be illegal sharing passwords it's going to be Ukrainians. Didn't Netflix stock should have shot up? Word-sharing and Russia's invasion of Ukraine the company ended the first quarter with 200,000 fewer subscribers than the end of last year we're seeing a lot of the subscription

17:26 fervor that was going on during the pandemic. We're seeing it starting to slow down after increasing its monthly cost in January, the basic Netflix plan is now about $10 but according to a new study more than 60% of people think they shouldn't have to pay any more than 750 per month for streaming service so what I love about this story Is that who did this story? That was ABC. But the whole terrible so the whole industry is collapsing Network television, um the ratings are abominable uh everything the interruptive Anything that is interrupted by advertising has sucked That's why everyone was loving you know Netflix of course they have some hits and then Hulu and I think a lot what

18:12 Well, no I'm going back right now they have Bridgerton but before that you know House of Cards. They've had hits! They've had single hits which brought people in and then once the hit is over once they binge it which i think is probably well this is the last quarter Bridgeton just started but these are incredibly expensive uh they have to pay off all the everyone up front instead of you know being a back-end deal for a lot of actors and producers etc And you could just see with all the competition that someone had to go down and the amount of debt that Netflix has is just insane. But now their strategy moving forward is the real head shaker, they're going to do a free tier with advertising

19:03 It's called OTA. It's called get an antenna and stick it on the back of your TV set I mean that goes against the entire model Yeah, so...I love it! I want to see all this stuff collapse Maybe we should say something about Netflix's programming in general I mean there's a few things that we watch. Bridgerton would be the one, I guess? And if you just scroll down the home page it's all woke stuff! Yes turned woke well the guy who runs Netflix Hoffman... He used to support he doesn't run it anymore does he no but he still got influence mm-hmm of course I think is on the board yeah he's uh what is he

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Spotify Exclusive Deals, Obama Podcast Contract Ending

Barack and Michelle Obama's production company, Higher Ground, is reportedly ending its exclusive deal with Spotify to seek a non-exclusive distribution model. The hosts discuss the failure of the Obamas' podcasts to generate significant advertising revenue compared to Joe Rogan. They predict a broader collapse of mainstream streaming models in favor of over-the-air (OTA) digital signals.

spotify· barack obama· michelle obama· higher ground· joe rogan

19:53 He's chairman, isn't he? No I mean you were gonna say so the guy is the biggest supporter of woke stuff. He is the guy who put in Gascon down in Los Angeles. Oh that's right! That's right him and Soros put this guy in it and the place has become a crime-ridden hellhole And that's reason enough for people in LA to turn on him But there's more stuff with these streamers. And I'll just include Spotify as a streamer, as well. Again another company that really hasn't ever published a profit, as far as i know or anything meaningful They had all these exclusive deals Joe Rogan deal being the most visible but you know one of their other really big deals in fact before Joe Rogan came in and we talked about it was the Obamas

20:38 You know, they're out there in variety saying yes we're going to end our exclusive deal with Spotify. I think something else happened here! I think Spotify went no no you remember that they couldn't fill the advertising? They didn't have enough people and so they had to take it from an exclusive on Spotify and open it up so every podcast app could then listen to it for their... was it Tide or whatever was their launch sponsor It's pathetic! No one cares That's the point, no one cares. Obamas? Yes yeah we're looking what they're looking for higher ground is their production company I know. The Refugee Hills should be the name They are looking for a new deal with non-exclusive deals so they want a lot of money and so they can still publish it everywhere I guess And it's the Michelle Obama podcast you know he also had The Born in the USA which was

21:35 a podcast with President Obama and Bruce Springsteen, basically a very sad Mo Fax with Adam Curry ripoff. So I'm just celebrating the death of mainstream that's what i'm doing here. I love it! I love it! No it ain't dead yet. Oh pfft... It's dead. I watch stuff, I watch certain shows, I'll watch things My thinking on advice for people is to get an OTA antenna Yeah, this is a digital... so every television today in the United States at least can receive over-the-air digital signals. Very interesting stations are available and some of it wouldn't matter if you were... You can get 4k over the air! Yeah but if 4K of poop is still poop

22:26 4k of the nightly news for example would be very watchable Wow all right cool. Well you have to watch the news they got new shows You gotta see what's going on yeah, and it's not a big bad thing And then I think Hulu is my favorite of all these streamers It's got HBO+, it's got everything on it. You pay the premium for it, in other words you get no commercials for any show and zero commercials for like TV regular network TV is fabulous and OTA and Boomi good yeah An update, another thing we kind of stumbled onto and I had no idea this was taking place. And this is the auto sear switches. We played a clip of some of these... Yeah, we got called out on this! Well called out? Well I got called out because i was going on and on about that. Now believe me now believe me we both thought called out as not knowing what's going on

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Glock Auto Sear Switches, Chinese Manufacturing Influx

The rise of "auto sear" switches, which convert semi-automatic Glock pistols into fully automatic weapons, is discussed as a major law enforcement concern. These $20 devices are reportedly being mass-produced in China and shipped into the United States. The hosts debate the role of Chinese manufacturing in the proliferation of these illegal conversion kits.

glock· auto sear· switches· china· bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms

23:23 And I think that's okay because this is relatively new, the past... Well we can't know everything and we definitely can't know about this. This is pretty wild! So the report was some mass shooting used a Glock automatic pistol Which means it could shoot off this full mag of 33 rounds within a couple of seconds. And I'd never heard of it, you hadn't heard of it we thought it was typical mainstream misreporting but no the auto sear is indeed like a $20 device

24:02 that with just tapping it right onto the back of your Glock turns it into a machine gun. I've looked into this, there's wire hanger auto sears which you can basically jam a coat hanger into your AR-15 and have it go full auto. I'm not going to explain the mechanics but its very simple but here is the thing that blew me away An auto-seer, the most common automatic conversion device transforms a semi-automatic gun into a weapon capable of emptying an entire magazine with a single pull of the trigger. Also known as switches or chips, auto seers have been around since the 70s!

24:45 Baby, we got bell bottoms and auto sears coming back. This is groovy Oh you know this yeah that would be a great comparison if anyone ever knew of those things back in the day Well I'm just reading the mainstream news someone knew about it. I didn't I didn't But this this isn't they used to have you know? I sent one of the guys who Sent me a bunch of you know all the details or some videos until they work and all the rest And I'm thinking this is like a big new deal. The Mac-10 was always designed to be turned into a machine gun, A little Mac 10 or Mac 11 nowadays would get... Mac 10's a piece of crap. Yeah but John you're missing the point This is a $20 upgrade that any gangbanger or anybody can use and here's the problem These are being shipped into our country en masse from China Of course

25:38 This this is this is the real problem. The Chinese are giving us everything we need to kill ourselves fentanyl I don't think autos it love it Yeah, but I don't know if this design was a Chinese designer just some It's not a Chinese design But it's coming in from China yeah, but if it wasn't okay less than this before we get into the anti-chinese I Don't know what to call it bigotry If it wasn't coming in from China, you don't think somebody would be making it here or Germany or Mexico? I think... I do not think that is so specific to China. I just think that someone found a source in China and could make it damn cheap Well then we need to find whoever that source is and stop them because that's the problem if I say okay here's my design China send it to me

26:37 That's going to be traceable to me. If China is just sending these things in through any other means, you know they send seeds everybody why not throw it an auto seer? I don't know but the fact is... It goes in when you throw them! No with the fentanyl there's one in the box. Free with every key of fentanyl The point is that what's not being discussed is how these are getting in where they're coming from who designed them who ordered them who shipped them We're not we can't get I think that boat sailed. We can't get fertilizer from China, but we got auto sears once you get Come on those things come on was the Chinese get a hold of design like that everybody's cloning it You never figure out I'm just gonna go with it screw the Chinese They're descending this to us to kill us for us to kill ourselves And it's perfect. It's perfect This is the right moment to roll this out

27:30 everything's stressful, you've got all kinds of crime and now we are now all of a sudden people are spewing 30 rounds in two seconds. That's unbelievable if you do videos are online. I watch this missing shoot it can't be good for the gun No, sir with that premise not good for the gun But also you're not really going to hit anything targeted You're gonna spray stuff all around the room or wherever you happen to be sharing It is very very very bad party gun very bad very bad Party gun now This is the this is a gangbanger gun So maybe we do the latest kovat update that concerns mainly the United States It may have implications for the rest of the world and that would be our mandates on a federally Regulated transportation I have to mass ruling Matt Mass mask ruling. Yes, I have well let me play uh I Have a couple here. I see what you have let me just play a

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Federal Mask Mandate Overturned, CDC Regulatory Authority

A federal judge in Florida ruled that the CDC exceeded its regulatory authority by imposing a mask mandate on public transportation. The Department of Justice has filed an appeal at the CDC's request to preserve the agency's future public health powers. The discussion touches on previous Supreme Court rulings that limited the CDC's ability to ban evictions.

cdc· federal judge· florida· mask mandate· department of justice

28:40 quick intro. that judge's ruling today, saying they are reviewing the judge's order but that for now the TSA will not enforce the mask mandate on public transportation. And adding to all of that confusion as you mentioned there is a new mask mandate here in Philadelphia that took effect today. That means about 20 000 fans here to see The 76ers play tonight will have to mask up once again

29:23 You can now fly or ride the buses and trains mask free. The move comes just hours after a federal judge in Florida ruled it was unlawful today, A U S district judge said the court accepts the CDC's argument that masks will limit COVID-19 transmission but that alone was not sufficient to exceed authority infectious disease specialist doctor Celine Gounder says it's still too soon. We don't know how the be a 2 variant is going to play out across the country as of right now my advice as a physician anybody traveling on a plane would be to continue wearing a mask when you're traveling on public transportation, including on an airplane. Let's set the context for people who don't live in America just kind of miss this somehow. The CDC

30:13 asserted it had the regulatory authority and power to impose these mandates. And that was ultimately challenged by a federal judge in, well not challenge but overturned by a federal judge in Florida of course, a Trump appointee which makes it just that much more fun and also you got to wonder why now? Why not a year ago Judge? This is because Trump... Because they came before her. The judges can't just ad lib and do whatever they want whenever they want. How does that work? You have to have something has to come before you that you make a determination Do we know who brought this before the judge It's kind of vague but somebody did it was in Florida, and that's when the whole thing came down I had three NPR stuff which kind of outlines in a little bit This is this is mask ruling one

31:07 The federal government is now appealing a court decision that struck down the federal mask mandate on public transportation. The Justice Department filed the appeal at the request of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Face coverings became optional this week on many planes, trains and buses after a federal judge declared that the CDC had exceeded its authority in requiring masks for travelers The CDC has faced many such challenges to its authority during the pandemic, to what it can and can't do in the name of public health. Now it's fighting back." So we kind of jumped over one little piece here is that the mandate was overturned which is immediate law and you probably saw people on airplanes getting announcements

31:50 with various responses, but I would say mainly positive. On the 18th when this took place the CDC had already said we're going to do two more weeks until May 3rd to just make sure that everything's okay with the BA2 variant Then there was this period of like 36 hours, like oh are they going to appeal? What are they going to do and then it was no we're not gonna appeal that. We are going to appeal so now they are appealing and I look forward to what else you have from NPR Well here's part two at the same clip. NPR health reporter Ping Huang is here hi ping ping So this wait a minute would you say hey I or his name

32:34 What did she say there? NPR health reporter Ping Huang is here. Hi, Ping! Hey Ari! So this mask rule that is now being challenged by the Justice Department will it stand? Well that's still up in the air as you mentioned the Justice Department and CDC are now appealing to get a travel mask mandate reinstated and the CDC says the order for wearing masks on planes trains and buses is still needed for public health And also that appealing the decision protects their public health authority Who said this?! Wait a minute She's ad-libbing. No, no they all say this. They all say this! They all say this! Oh it's safe and effective okay I'm sorry it's just one of those little terms they throw in go on The order for wearing masks on planes trains and buses is still needed for public health And also that appealing the decision protects their public health authority The nationwide mask mandate on trains buses and planes was struck down Monday by a Trump appointed judge who thought that the CDC did not have the authority to make people wear masks even if it might be good for public health

33:32 The Justice Department and CDC disagree, so this evening the DOJ filed a notice of appeal in federal court in Tampa to get the ball rolling. Question is it? So this is specifically the Department of Justice's job to go against the federal judge Is that is that is that the typical procedure Well, they can go against any judge they want. Right but is it typically the Department of Justice who does that? And what does that mean? It goes to the next... Well anybody can do it. The Department of Justice would be the one who was affected because their representing the United States government. The Department of Justice is the lawyers for the government, and so this was against the CDC, so boom they would take it. Got it. So if it was a question of authority whether the CDC's allowed to do this... Is it clear what kinds of powers the CDC has?

34:23 Well, traditionally the CDC makes the most use of its soft powers. You know using science and reason to persuade states and individuals to do things for the sake of public health but it also has hard powers which go back to the 1944 Public Health Service Act in the past The agency is used these two quarantine individuals And in this pandemic CDC has been using them to issue broad orders on a range of things like making travelers test mask to banning evictions and turning migrants away at the borders Dr. Marty Setran, the CDC's head of global migration and quarantine told me last year that this is new territory for the CDC This has been the largest and most expansive or inclusive use of regulatory authority given the unprecedented nature of this pandemic threat

35:09 No one from CDC would talk on the record now as these orders get challenged in court and the mask ruling was just the latest defeat. I thought we had dealt with the CDC didn't we did we all like when we're laughing at the CDC because they reversed, they reversed all of their positions like overnight clearly political move and it was all CDC, we need to get rid of them. They need to have a new organization. We need to reboot them, have something new." I wonder if that's part of what this is? You never know. It's so politicized at this point

35:47 That's as if the CDC, you know they turn left there. They say you know this these Republicans have a point No, they don't you should go It's hard to say what with the basis of this these crazinesses are about but it is totally political was that? Part yeah, I was too that was two Oh, okay, right three he's got the kicker in it like what were some of the others well The biggest blow came last August when the Supreme Court ruled at the CDC exceeded its authority with its ban on evictions and Lindsay Wiley, a health law professor at UCLA said that the move was a bit of a stretch for CDC. A lot of the general public and a lot of federal judges feel like, you know this isn't exactly what CDC's role should be. This is something state and local governments are doing and it should really be left to them." Ultimately the Supreme Court said CDC didn't have the authority to do it and they struck it down now that was one ruling on evictions but law experts say it had a ripple effect lower courts could use it to limit those CDCs powers too and the judge in Florida did cite it this week as she canceled the travel mask mandate

36:49 What would that ripple effect do if the CDC's powers get restricted more broadly? What kind of impacts could that have on public health? Well, they worry that limiting public health powers is short-sighted. Here's Wendy Parmitt a Health Law professor at Northeastern University. You can't assume that everything in the future is going to look either epidemiologically or politically like what we have seen She says the next pandemic could be very deadly to kids Or one where Republicans might want more restrictive measures than Democrats as they did during the Ebola outbreak She says that the CDC needs flexible powers to deal with health threats effectively. Now, ultimately Congress may need to step in and spell out the agency's powers but with the current political climate it is not a clear path.

37:38 said no evictions. What is their, what can it... they're not the military police you know in a war zone? They can't just make these sorts of edicts and now they're all bent out of shape because they got overturned by the Supreme Court The whole thing is bogus. they would appeal, not just because they think it's entirely reasonable of course to have this additional time to look at it but because they think that the current for current and future public health crises we want to preserve that authority for the CDC. It's about power I just want to have it for the next thing they wanna put you know now it'll be a bag on your head

38:33 I need something else. Yeah, they just wanted to... it's power! It has two holes in it. Power from the faceless nameless CDC That's exactly right they want to put a bag on your head and march you around yeah You nailed it. The flight is? By the way have a longer clip about them about the appeal Let's do that. Let's wish you could play it You can cut it off because this is definitely was not clipped properly by me I can tell by the little yeah, they never buy the length of them let's listen Yeah, this is under feds appealing mask yeah

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Flight Attendant Union, Airline Mask Policy Reactions

The president of the Association of Flight Attendants is featured in a clip discussing the industry's reaction to the lifting of the federal mask mandate. While some crews expressed relief, the union representative highlighted the ongoing split among passengers and staff. The hosts criticize the union's stance and the "politicization" of safety measures on aircraft.

sara nelson· flight attendants· cnbc· mask mandate· airline safety

39:09 Yeah, just obviously the front end of this clip did not belong to Ukrainians is not part of this clip. Let me see that again. To Ukraine say it's hard to know exactly how prepared they really are. Ukrainians have been okay I'm not gonna edit your clip out. That was a little hard. Sorry! I do have the representative of the flight attendance union And her thoughts, and you have to understand she's being interviewed and she has a big Starbucks union badge on. I don't know why maybe she is just promoting another union for the heck of it But she gets a little irritated and I find her quite irritating in fact as well. Passengers were cheering, and Phil said that a lot of crews were cheering? Where you... I think this is CNBC actually. ...was it like everything else in this country where half the crew was cheering and the other half was booing? Were most flight attendants happy or sad that the mask mandate was lifted for airplanes?

40:09 Well, look Joe. We've been enforcing this mask mandate not just since it was a federal mandate but for over two years now and we put that in place—let's not forget the airlines put that in place without any support from the federal government because we needed people to understand that they could be safe flying on a plane. What do you mean? This sounds a little revisionist, it says we put the mandates in place the airline industry put the mandates in place without support from the federal government who's the federal government who came up with the distances and they had this I remember all the animations how many people away you had to be for

40:49 The air filtration, some crazy... They had all these models of how the airflow worked and it was totally forced without support from the government. So she's pro masks? She'd be like doing... Most of the flight attendants I've heard are all happy as a clam because they don't have to call people out. To get people to understand that they could be safe flying on a plane now we've had certain mitigation factors since then of course the vaccine more access to proper PPE, more access to testing. But on a plane you have to have the spirit that we're all in this together everybody has to practically undress in order to show that they're not a security threat or give extensive data to the government so they can assess that before she left. I know! I'm glad you caught it because I want to stop and say she's talking about everyone has to show your not- We are all in this together

41:43 This, this by the way? This is real fascist talk from this lady. We're all in this together you have to give extensive information to the government about yourself. Yeah she got that laugh in there! Why are you laughing lady?! My name is Bob Snow. And you have to wear your seat belt. It's not just about you, it's about protecting everyone around you because you can be thrown around and fall down on them the same idea The only reason that this has been an issue is because it was so politicized So I want to be really clear You asked me the question Where do we stand? We did not take a position on extending the mask mandate And the reason for that is because you're right! It split...I have members and actually passengers A lot of passengers I'm hearing from this morning

42:41 who are begging us even go on strike to stop this. People are really upset about it and I have other people who have been waiting and really excited for this to go away, iIhave to say going into the summer months for flight attendants It's hard for maybe somebody flying a couple hours on a flight to wear a mask imagine people who've been on the front lines wearing the mask for 14 15 16 hours and having to enforce it with other people who are grumbling all the time. So there's absolutely a sigh of relief from flight crews, but there is also people who are really concerned.

43:26 Yeah, so uh... Well I think there's something else. It started off with the booing! I've seen clip after clip of people in these airplanes and they're all cheering. Not all cheering. Boo! Boo! I want to wear a mask! Doesn't make sense Yeah, well... If you want to wear a mask wear a mask. You don't have to boo! We have to bear couple things in mind one the mask is political. You got a mask? You're cool? Your dim? You're not wearing a mask? You are likely Republican possibly QAnon that's that's the way it's perceived. It could be. Now also in Congress they were working on a bill

44:08 for the rowdy passengers. You know, this was the Buddha judge thing instead of focusing on getting actual pilots and flight attendants to work and training new ones because we're going to be quite short in the tens of thousands of pilots certainly No no! We've gotta make rules to punish these rowdy passengers That's off the table now because they can't do it There is no more rowdy passengers It's going to end because the mass mandates will end you watch All of a sudden people are going to calm down, not entirely because we're still missing way too many TSA agents. So the lines are still insane. The lines are long and people are being stressed they're stressed at the airport Very stressed And then they put them in an air...in a small enclosed tube Now here's some great news

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Nolichek Meats, USDA Masking Lawsuit Victory

The Nolichek family of Nolichek Meats in Thorpe, Wisconsin, successfully challenged a USDA notice that threatened to withhold federal inspections if employees did not wear masks. The USDA rescinded the notice before the case reached a final court ruling, which the hosts characterize as a victory for small producers against federal overreach.

nolichek meats· usda· wisconsin· fsis· mask mandate

44:54 email from the Nolichek family. Now you recall, the Nolichek family? The whole family are producers and knights and dames? One of the main providers of meat to the No Agenda audience! That's right They had, they lost their USDA seal of approval because they would not force their employees to all wear masks which is not a mandate but the inspectors from the FDA would come along and say well if it and they do this you know pop inspections whoop here we are. And if anyone doesn't have a mask were walking away were not doing your inspection so screw you! God bless the Nolichick family they sued the government

45:34 And here's an update. Greetings in the morning from everyone at Nolocheck Meats in Thorpe, Wisconsin! An update regarding our case against the USDA challenging legality of FSIS Notice 34-21. This is the masking thing... Well it's nothing short of a miracle on March 15th The science changed according to the CDC and the USDA rescinded the notice In all reality, the Department of Justice knew they didn't have a case to withhold the federal mark of inspection vis-a-vis notice and didn't want to lose in court. And just like that the science changed overnight! Yes we technically won our case against the USDA however only because the notice was rescinded and therefore the case was dismissed without prejudice. The lack of accountability on the part of the Federal Government regarding what was illegally imposed by the USDA is the frustrating part

46:21 So, man I'd... gosh! I would love for them to go and just keep suing. Just keep suing for lost revenue anything although i think they probably did better because of the no agenda. In the direction of laws revenue and your sales increase because... Anyway, they do want to that so we've moved from one manufactured crisis to another just keeps getting stranger and stranger but here we are doing the work it's encouraging though to see people coming together stepping in ways that empower others to find their voice what a time to be alive thank you to the great producers have no agenda for sharing your time talents and treasure to the best podcast in universe and for bringing 100%

47:00 listeners and of course if listeners should feel inclined it I love these guys know the check to set up a discount code for all orders placed on line use ITM 33 for 20% checkout that discount on all orders we're very happy for the Nolichek family is horrible when when the small producers of America get so pestered and what a farce man for them just to drop it a-holes So while all this conversation is going on, I have one last mask clip if you want. Oh yeah sure let's do it! There's a local story from masks on Uber and Lyft and it just... It's not a great clip,

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Uber and Lyft, Rideshare Masking Requirements

Uber and Lyft have officially dropped their masking requirements for both drivers and passengers in the United States. A report from KQED features a Bay Area driver's perspective on the change, highlighting the shift in safety concerns post-vaccination. The hosts mock the lingering debate over mask effectiveness.

uber· lyft· rideshare· bay area· kqed

47:43 It's one of those head shaking clips like why do people care this much about any of this? Uber and Lyft have now dropped their masking requirements for rideshare drivers and riders. As Aditi Bandlamudi reports from member station KQED, drivers are now weighing how that decision will affect their safety The ride share companies are also allowing customers to sit in the front passenger seat which was previously blocked off Mohammed Shafiq Qureshi, who has been an Uber driver in the Bay Area since it launched in 2009 says before vaccines were available he wanted riders to wear masks. Now that he's vaccinated and boosted, Qureshi is getting more comfortable driving without a mask. It depends on the passenger because for example if you look sick then little bit scary

48:30 Otherwise, you know I mean. I have no issue advocates for rideshare drivers however say the move will put drivers at risk some drivers also may not feel comfortable asking customers to wear masks for fear of a bad review Did we forget the last two and a half years of mass debate? And we masturbate and we know that they really just aren't that effective did We just collectively forget this. I don't know how it works I've always thought the same kind of thing and we've been doing this show for 15 years, and I don't know how it works. I concluded that it's like the very fine people It's like these things have locked in Like a bad tick And just hang on for dear life And there is nothing you can do about it You're just stuck And yeah And it will be in history books But it doesn't matter

CHAPTER 12 / 43 Discussion

Captain Bob Snow, Pilot Cardiac Arrest Incident

Captain Bob Snow, an American Airlines pilot, recorded a video from an ICU in Dallas after suffering a cardiac arrest six minutes after landing a flight. Snow attributes the medical emergency to the COVID-19 vaccine he was mandated to receive to keep his job. The hosts discuss the implications for pilot safety and FAA medical criteria.

bob snow· american airlines· cardiac arrest· vaccine mandate· faa

49:24 Yeah, well it's propagandist because it's a constant message that gets... Never ends. And this is actually kind of a distraction because what the conversation you're not like... It's like the gassing in Syria! Yeah exactly. Oh they're lying there oh they drew a line and then they got gased and didn't do anything I mean you just can't do anything about it and its the most frustrating part about doing these reports Well Captain Bob Snow was doing something about it There was a report about a week ago Maybe almost two weeks ago that an Airbus had landed in, I want to say Dallas American Airlines and six minutes after landing which i don't know if that was during taxi or at the gate. The pilot passed out went into full cardiac arrest

50:10 was brought back to life with three shocks to the heart and this immediately of course was blamed on the mandated vaccinations. There were no real... I didn't see any reporting of this in mainstream, any whatsoever because why would they considering who sponsors them? But Captain Bob Snow has recorded his own little video Audio is not great, but you'll be able to hear it. He's in the ICU he's all wired up He's got everything coming out of him My name is Bob snow and I kept been a captain for a number of years my total service with the company Is over 31 years on November 7th? I was mandated To receive a vaccine quite literally I was told if I did not receive the vaccination I would be fired this was from our director flight so

51:03 Under duress, I received the vaccine. Now just a few days ago after landing in Dallas six minutes after we landed i passed out uh I coded I required three shocks and need to be intubated. I'm now in the ICU in Dallas this is what the vaccine has done for me. I will probably never fly again based upon The criteria that the FAA establishes for pilots. I was hoping to teach my daughter to fly, she wants to be a pilot? That will probably never happen all courtesy of the vaccine this is unacceptable and i am one of the victims you can see that this is the actual result of the vaccine for some of us mandatory no questions asked get the shot or you're fired This is not the American way

52:00 Now typically we'd say with this kind of truth bomb you might want to be careful of flying small aircraft and stay away from hot tubs. In this case I would like to recommend maybe get out of the ICU! Yeah, yeah... You see too many good TV shows where somebody comes in just puts a pillow over your head and walks out casually And now we're seeing hepatitis popping up everywhere, massive increase. In Europe, Australia and New Zealand chronic COVID is very AIDS-like as in acquired immune deficiency disease

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

Moderna Bivalent Booster, Chronic COVID Immune Issues

Moderna is developing a new "bivalent" booster shot designed to target both the original COVID-19 strain and the Beta variant. The hosts discuss reports of rising hepatitis cases and "AIDS-like" immune system degradation in highly vaccinated populations like Australia and New Zealand. They express skepticism regarding the long-term safety of mRNA technology.

moderna· bivalent booster· omicron· hepatitis· immune deficiency

52:40 Not necessarily HIV that gives you AIDS, but AIDS. And people are... their immune systems appear to be shot and blown out with it Australia New Zealand keep report the politicians the health professionals actually say it's you know so I've got 40% rise in cardiac arrest we don't know what it is crazy It's unbelievable! It's crazy talk But it doesn't matter because we're just going to improve the product people. Michael, good morning to you. While this new booster shot is not yet available to the public it's an important step as Moderna works to create a stronger booster in the future that can stand up to multiple variants. Moderna announcing this new and improved booster works better than the original

53:40 called bivalent booster, meaning it targets two different variants. In this case the shot was specifically designed against the original and beta variants but lab studies showed promising results across multiple variants of concern including omicron with a 2-fold increase in antibodies compared to the original shot and those antibodies stayed high for six months. Now Moderna is also working on an Omicron specific booster, study results are expected sometime this summer but experts are hopeful that a booster of this kind could be ready to roll out to the general public by fall. Robin? Encouraging all right Witt thank you. Encouraging! A bivalent booster

54:22 Yeah, they're not stopping. This is not going to stop they want the power to do it again Maybe it'll be bird flu I don't know something They just wanted to have about this this technology to the extent that they're covering up everything and there using humans You know the basic human population as a test bed And they're not stopping because there's they must see something in this that is really promising I mean you laugh, but they're just not doing it because they're ogres. There must be something positive...I mean it can't be that just pure evil! It's got to be something a plus side to it. I'm pretty sure that most of the people who do this reporting and their producers and everyone who is on the beat, they believe it. They just believe it all. They are into it. They are digging it

55:18 And then there's a... Yeah, no but I'm talking about behind the scenes. The real people that know what the hell is going on know that this is a fiasco. Mmmmm....I'm questioning how many people really know this or really believe it? Or just say oh that's Russian disinformation! Well I think most people are in denial and not gonna argue that But when these documents come out showing this horrendous results and things that it should have been, that lesser products have been taken off the market permanently for achieving. It's just somethings wrong unless there is some true sense of this is some sort of thing that will save us from reptilian genes or something I have no idea

CHAPTER 14 / 43 Discussion

SmartLess Podcast, Sean Hayes COVID Testing Anecdote

The hosts critique an episode of the "SmartLess" podcast where actor Sean Hayes describes a frustrating experience trying to get a mandatory COVID-19 test for a Broadway performance. They argue the actors are missing the "communist nature" of the bureaucracy and QR code procedures they are forced to follow in New York City.

smartless· sean hayes· jason bateman· will arnett· covid testing

56:06 Well, the idea is certainly to get it into everybody's body. That's for sure mRNA forever that's that's that is the push and That's been a push from the pharmaceutical industry for a long time We've played enough clips from them over the years saying Bob be great if we could get gene therapy in everybody's body wouldn't have be great? We could we could fix him we could so we can make them better improve them Yeah you make people a platform This has been bus yeah there's a The Smartass podcast, which I'd never... There are people out there that will understand why that came up. Oh, I know what the bus is! The Smartass podcasts I've never heard before but i think we're going to start listening to it Is a trio of very famous people who do this podcast Jason Bateman Will Arnett and Sean Hayes And Jason Bateman Of course Ozarks and Teen Wolf 3 Will Arnett Many many things Saturday Night Live

57:05 And Sean Hayes, Will and Grace. It's kind of a fun podcast but it was really interesting to hear how they missed entirely what is going on with testing and this is Sean Hayes he's explaining how he needed to get a test because he's on Broadway or he's in the theater and he has have a test every single day to go into the theater I perform at The Stag And he got the runaround and it just doesn't click for them what's really going on here. Have a listen. You know what is so crazy? So when I go to the theater, I have to have a COVID test every week right? Sure. Still...and so I missed this one day

57:44 So they said, oh you have to just go to one of these like free clinic places. Okay so I Google it and it says that you can come in for a walk-in appointment. And I'm not kidding you guys there's nobody there! And the woman standing right when you walk out goes do you have an appointment? No, and she goes you have to make appointment I go but it said walk-in She goes yeah But you stuff to make one so you can go back outside and scan the little digital thing on your phone I know you're joking me right now. There's no other you want me to walk outside Yeah So I walk out, and go watch this. And I looked at her through the glass through the door... Never broke eye contact! This sounds like a real bait man. I was so angry. I took the picture of thing and I'm filling it out just giving her evil looks while i'm filling this out. I log in all my information. I walk in she goes can help you?

58:41 She wasn't even kidding as she goes do you have an appointment was it eating McClurg? I go wait. This is like a joke so that she goes yeah, I have an appointment She goes right over here to align that doesn't exist and then this guy at the front desk He's like give him an appointment. I go yes. I do he said great And then he tells me to go waiting this other line There's no line It's just a thing to go get tested They're really missing the communist nature of what is taking place here. You need to get a test for your work, and you have to scan the QR code, you have to go through the procedure... This is like secret... this is the

59:26 the merchant class in complete compliance and obedience with the government, taking your information, passing it on making sure we know everything about you fill out more information stand in line. It's funny now because he has to do a test for his theater? It's not gonna be so funny when it's for food And other things. Well, a couple of things this is reminiscent some comedy bits I've seen where you know the person says it goes to order at the window and the guy says there's the pickup window you gotta go to that ordering window and so the guy goes over the ordering window same guy

1:00:06 says, okay I'll take your orders and then you know. In other words it's a facade it's bull crap and that's what was going on with this but I think they missed it and just get a stretch but it's an interesting theory. I think they missed the communist nature of it of the bull crap, the phony baloney bureaucracy, the phony go out do this when you could just do right here in front of me because they're in New York and New York has been turned into a communist city-state. Well we are going to New York tomorrow so I can't wait to bring a full report after when we arrive tomorrow in the communist state of New York

CHAPTER 15 / 43 Discussion

UCF Football QR Codes, Pandemic Political Strategy

The University of Central Florida (UCF) football team replaced player numbers with QR codes on their jerseys during a spring game. This leads to a discussion on the normalization of digital tracking and a theory that political strategists may attempt to trigger a "pandemic redo" to influence the upcoming midterm elections via mail-in ballots.

ucf football· qr codes· midterms· mail-in ballots· pandemic

1:00:47 But there's more, man. With these QR codes... This is a quickie. Possible sign of the future in sports? Check out the jerseys worn by the University of Central Florida football team during their spring game. Unique QR codes replace numbers on their backs. Fans can scan the code to learn more about the players. Technology I tell ya! Yeah, I tell you how long before we have- We have to wear a QR- this is better A yellow QR code is better than a yellow star So you can just, you know... Just let me scan you. It's normal we scan football players! We should all have QR codes on our clothing. Yes, on our clothing. You have a badge? They make square badges. Square button pins. Perfect. Pin one on and it's your QR code and you have to have the right one or you can get fined. Yes it's gonna be great. It's perfect.

1:01:41 Let me see. Oh, no I don't think I have anything else on COVID and it's just kind of where we're at still you know? I know that the mask mandate will not be overturned as that's not for now that's for future use and they're still working on some vaccines. It was kind of a taking a back seat but still pushing, pushing, pushing we got cases cases cases do you think that we'll have an outbreak by the summer or are just gonna wait until fall as usual? I'm not looking forward to our seeing an outbreak coming I think things over I predict this... No i'm not talking about real I'm talking about politically driven oh

1:02:24 Well, let's see the midterms are coming and then primaries are coming in June. They're gonna I don't think there's going to do anything because i think this they have mixed input from the specialists that you know the what do you call them these political strategists that come on the TV but they have these political strategists and they're all going to talk to each other and say should we do an outbreak? I mean we could do it but was that gonna hurt our chances And they're not going to do anything. They can't take a chance of it, they're already in trouble. I mean the one thing i could say if i was a strategist like that is just the following look this is a risky one because we're in trouble...I'm a democrat strategists just for this purposes of this argument We are kind of in trouble everyone kinda knows were in trouble gonna lose a lot of seats were gonna lose probably their house for sure and the senate

1:03:23 probably also. So Biden's gonna be, well that's pretty good because Joe does a lousy job anyway so it'd be great and that way we can blame the Republicans for nothing happening but do we want to lose that much power in these hearings and all the rest that we've been doing? Because everyone will be run by the Republicans now. There is one thing we could do We could have a pandemic redo and then shut down make people stay inside again and force mail-in ballots because we know how that works so we can control the outcome. That's the only shot we have? No, they have one other shot

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

Cyber Pandemic Warnings, CrowdStrike and Russian Threats

A "60 Minutes" segment featuring CrowdStrike co-founder Dmitry Alperovitch warns of potential Russian cyber attacks on U.S. infrastructure, including the energy and banking sectors. The hosts question Alperovitch's background and the narrative that Russian hackers are uniquely dangerous, citing past mistakes in attacks on Saudi Arabian refineries.

crowdstrike· dmitry alperovitch· 60 minutes· putin· cyber attack

1:04:06 the one other shot and it's on deck. I mean if you follow the logic of the World Economic Forum but also just we need to do something to curtail the inflation, what we've explained it with Putin's price hike, we tried to stop, we, central banks and whoever else involved douchebags in the world locked down the economy suppressed everything that was really trying to keep inflation out of sight The next thing on the agenda is the cyber pandemic And 60 Minutes is right there. Tonight, there's growing concern about Russian threats here at home. U.S. authorities warn that the Kremlin could launch cyber attacks on American soil. Experts say this could impact everything from public transit to banks to the energy sector for 60 minutes CBS' Bill Whitaker spoke with Dmitry Aperovitch, the Moscow-born cofounder of the cybersecurity company CrowdStrike and a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council I just need to stop here for a second so

1:05:06 It's clearly Putin who is driving the forthcoming, bringing down our electric grid and anything else. Banking sector you name it? So let's talk to the guy who was born in Russia is Ukraine and works for CrowdStrike one of the most controversial This wasn't CrowdStrike, it was some other hokey operation. No! CrowdStrike! Is that what she said? I thought she said something else. No listen... Whitaker spoke with Dmitry Operovich the Moscow-born cofounder of this cyber security company CrowdStrike and a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council. I thought you said CrossStrike. No it's CrowdStrike, the same people who... Yeah CrowdStrike we know them, we've been following them since day one yeah so let's get a Russian born guy I'm just gonna be a douche about

1:05:56 You know, a Russian-born guy who operates from Ukraine or did operate... this is where CrowdStrike was founded in Ukraine. There's still plenty of belief that the DNC server that Seth Rich got killed over — I'm just gonna say it — is still in possession of CrowdStrike. Anyway let's hear what he has to say about this horrible threat that is looming. So all of these things they can do What is the one that troubles you the most? An attack on the oil and gas industry, where they go after the safety systems again. And it can cause cascading effects and fires and potential explosions and people die. It would require a response from us... I'm gonna disagree with this thesis of yours as soon as if you want to finish this slip or not This is not strategy that Democrats can employ

1:06:49 Oh, I didn't say it was the Democrats. I specifically said this is about the financial state of affairs and they need to curtail inflation. No no i'm talking about the democrats getting not getting destroyed in the... that's what I started off with the theory that if you're a strategist you don't want to get crushed into midterms If we shut down things then you're right back to paper ballots And who knows what else will close down if something really happens. I'm just saying that we have been promised the cyber pandemic, I take Klaus as a writer... No you're right we've been promised it and no one's delivered Yeah so let's listen to what's coming ...and it can cause cascading effects and fires and potential explosions and people die It would require a response from us that could escalate

1:07:39 It absolutely would. Not just a cyber war, but a real war? It's a real concern and the reality is that we have seen the Russians in cyberspace do some things that we thought were just nuts That were so provocative So escalatory That sometimes you look at that and say who is controlling these guys You know, when the United States launches operations there's an army of lawyers that is going to be approving every step of that operation and asking are you gonna cause any civilian casualties? Are you gonna do anything that's disproportionate. They don't have any of that in Russia And... That can lead us down a very dark path I'm calling bullcrap on this! Boy! That's a great clip We have an army of lawyers when we're doing cyber operations To make sure it's on the up-and-up

1:08:23 If it's really war, if it's really war then the rules are off the table. There is more to this Bill Whitaker joins us now from New York that sounds really alarming Alarming! You point out that the Russians have already targeted a refinery in the past right? Yeah right Yes they have Nora In 2017 Russian hackers launched a cyber attack against a huge oil refinery in Saudi Arabia That targeted those safety control systems In this case the hackers made a small coding mistake and they ended up shutting down the refinery instead of triggering a deadly explosion. That doesn't sound like expert Russians! But the experts have told us Russian hackers learn from their mistakes Wait a minute, so we just heard a moment ago that the Russians are the best ever They do crazy shit You have no idea how good they are And now it's like ohh...they made a mistake

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Pipe Dream Malware, SCADA System Vulnerabilities

The U.S. government issued a warning regarding "Pipe Dream," a sophisticated malware targeting industrial control systems (SCADA) in North America. Producers for the show provide technical analysis suggesting the code may have American origins. The discussion references the "Stuxnet" attack on Iran as evidence of long-standing government involvement in industrial sabotage.

pipe dream· malware· scada· plc· stuxnet

1:09:11 What are we talking about? We're talking about what we mentioned on the show for a week and a half ago. This is the new malware that's been discovered." Yeah, it's really interesting and do we know is there any indication that Russians are preparing for a similar cyber attack now?" Well, just last week the U.S. government issued a warning about a new piece of malware dubbed Pipe Dream One cyber security expert told us the initial targets are liquefied natural gas and electric power sites in North America The malware is suspected to be of Russian origin and is far more advanced and versatile than what was used in Saudi Arabia Okay before we continue

1:09:55 You have to reiterate what you played it with things in the last show one of our guys wrote in One of our dudes named Ben who's on this stuff? Dudes main name been named and protector of megawatts And he said that he looked at the code and some of this stuff that seems to be inserted here, and there is American Yes He said it certainly didn't look Russian. And he says it looks like our guys now I've received two producer messages that go a little bit against this theory. So what we know about this malware is that it's like a Swiss Army knife and it can, it has root kits

1:10:36 for all these different SCADA and SCATA machines. So they sit in between the command and control of what you want to have happen, your power plant, your boiler temperature control valves that are open... And the physical world so between the digital world of how we control things and then the actual valves that have to be mechanically changed and turned So, the first note we got from one of our producers his father used to be in the business and he says oh you know because we mentioned the brand names of these controllers that these machines that would supposedly were infected with malware and he says Oh! You know

1:11:22 Back in the day, the US government actually introduced malware themselves into the SCADA and PLCs with the intention of sabotaging Iran's uranium enrichment process. Yeah, we actually talked about that a long time ago. Long time ago And so he says it's it's there's malware in all of these systems and it was put in by the US specifically for The purpose of stopping Iran another note comes from one of our producers who says take a look at the documentary zero days from 2016

1:12:00 And it turns out that it's not just the US, but really a lot of governments have malware in these machines. So I don't know if we should be concerned or if its just business as usual or is this was just a ticking time bomb that anybody can trip? It doesn't seem to be so spectacular right now even...even if this isn't the pipe dream there stuff in there they can be tripped by apparently multiple governments Yeah. Well, we'll find out one of these days when the power goes out but you don't care? I do not! I'm good... I do not care at all. No, I'm good man. I'm totally good

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Social, Fediverse and Mastodon

The hosts discuss the utility of their Mastodon instance, No Agenda Social, as a decentralized alternative to mainstream social media. They credit the community for providing early information on topics like Glock switches. The segment explains the open-source nature of the Fediverse and the show's policy on purging inactive accounts.

mastodon· fediverse· no agenda social· social media· censorship

1:12:43 It's dynamite. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in SCADA and SCATAS systems! Ladies and gentlemen please say hello to Mr John C Dvorak Well in the morning of you mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea, boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the names and nights out there What happened to your ecosystem? I miss it did you clean up? When I'm not using the ecosystem... You should have picked this up by now thought That means I have not opened the spreadsheet. Oh, and I am busily clicking on things Okay, no I know it. I don't know what you do. I've never seen your studio I've never been in any I mean in your living room once I don't know anything if I saw you on the street I wouldn't even recognize you

1:13:30 Yeah, well you do that let me say in the morning to the troll room as far as I know we have one person from Europe from Heidelberg Germany. I was looking at who was hot too here's the Hoff Let's count them for a second here. Come on trolls hands up. Let me see you let me see we got what are you working with today? Come on 2178 it's a Thursday We'll take it very nice good to see you all trolls They hang out at troll room dot io where you can join is free to join You get right in there, you can listen to the stream live stream knowage in the stream calm and in the troll room troll along Troll each other troll the meat roll well you can't troll John because he doesn't watch

1:14:09 But but it's 24 7 the stream so there are a lot of live live shows people who do their podcast live and also Repeats or just a great 24 hour seven stream of good stuff And I recommend you go check it out especially if your troll hmm Yeah, I've thought about not. You know I but actually following the troll room and doing something Horowitz runs one too, and I don't do it and I decided that that if I was watching it and you were both watching, I think it would ruin the pacing of the show. Oh totally! And you know...I'll be honest that in the past couple of months

1:14:54 The trolls have not been super helpful usually so I was disappointed when it came to the the auto seer we had no idea what is about and I have a way of Perfect example. I know exactly you're gonna say they should have included us in right there on the spot All I got was well could be a Glock c18 could be, you know all but none that I saw because I have I have a third eye that looks at the troll room and in this case. I was staring right out It like we don't know what's going on here And all I saw made other under flying mistakes Yeah, the troll room should have corrected it we've had to do a mea culpa slagging off people yeah Come on get on the ball

1:15:35 Now we love our trolls and another well actually what worked very well, although not in the live situation was no agenda social.com That's where we learned about the auto seers and the Glock switches Man you guys are good And I didn't I didn't think we got a lot of negative corrections It was like oh this is pretty new These are flooding now flooding all the cities and people had different reports so it was really good I was surprised that we had never heard of it before It's something I would expect our producers to be on top of. Yeah, we knew what a bump stock was! Yeah yeah we did. Noahgendasocial.com is a Mastodon instance it's on the Fediverse it's completely open this protocol anybody can start a server you can register with many mastodons servers and then you can follow John C Dvorak at noagendasocial.com and Adam at noagendasocial.com and join the conversation

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Episode 1443 Artwork, Tante Neel Calimero Reference

The hosts review the producer-submitted artwork for episode 1443, specifically a piece by Tante Neel featuring Joe Biden with an eggshell on his head. Adam Curry explains the cultural reference to the Italian cartoon character Calimero. They also provide a critique of other submissions, debating the merits of "overproduced" versus "avant-garde" styles.

tante neel· calimero· joe biden· album art· value for value

1:16:29 And I think we're going to open up the instance again since, you know, we've purged old accounts once again. People who just go away and... We have our limit at 10 000. I think be able to take three more people coming up soon Then we want to thank the artist for episode 1443 titled Elon Sandwich and no doubt that when we saw the artwork page, this is the submissions done by our producers Noah ArtGenerator.com one look at the Tante Neal album art and you just had to crack up! And this was our President Joe Biden with with an eggshell on his head with Merry Christmas

1:17:15 And it was, I mean we both cracked up when we saw this. Well there was a lot of art that we liked or could use but actually both of us literally laughed at this piece! Now I laughed a little harder for a different reason because you don't know the context on the eggshell on the head and I do because Tante Neel is Dutch And growing up, I think it may still be on TV somewhere. There was an Italian cartoon and i'm talking 73 when I think I first saw this and the Italian cartoon was of a little black chicken little chick with an eggshell on his head just like the one Biden has and the chicks name was Calimiro and Calimiro would always get bullied

1:18:01 And the line was, Zij zijn groot en ik ben klein en dat is niet heerlijk. Which is they're big and I'm small and that's not fair! And this was the whole cartoon. So she put the Calamiro eggshell on Joe Biden a genius move Ah. International success! I like the dimensionality of our project. It was really good, we appreciate it Tantanil great job there were of course there were other things that we liked...I liked Moose's piece which had Joe Biden in a bunny costume out in front of the White House called Easter Joe I thought that piece was funny and just looks so silly. There was a couple things we're going to discuss which is Dame Kenny Benz whose art I used for The Newsletter

1:18:48 Her use of clip art is getting to the point which it's becoming a trope and we're shying away from it. John at Dvorak dot org You're the one who first suggested it. I don't know anything about that, what do you mean? This is all you! Okay never mind... What i liked was the- no we did discuss this um wait a minute which one was it there's the Easter Bunny which is a piece I liked a lot The Easter bunny creeping up on two scared eggs and the piece was called uh Happy Easter right I see it here now We know that she licenses the clip art but

1:19:38 When I saw it, it's like... It looks like well-assembled clipart. And then..I don't know. It's just a personal thing? Because you don't have the... Gosh! I'm just gonna dig the hole deeper here But because you don't have that element of creating quickly on the fly You know doing sometimes more...it's almost overproduced How about that? It's almost too produced to be our album art. Does that make any sense? Yes, there's a thing about... yes this is interesting because we while we appreciate this isn't interesting from a perspective of and and we're not art directors but we are

1:20:17 and artists never get to hear this kind of conversation that's probably going on constantly. It's, while we like the avant-garde surfer magazine art that we've been picking on and off is just wild looking it's like wow this is pretty... This is just extremely creative. That type of art always has kind of a sloppy quality to it that doesn't look overproduced. And overproduce What Adam means by it is pretty much what I think about it too, which is slick to an extreme. Yeah

1:20:54 to the point where it's like too slick. And we see this, when you see it with musical bands, you see this with videos, you see it on TV once in a while where something is just like kind of makes you itch. It's so too slick. The guys are way too professional and they're showing off. On the other side of that, we had Art by Jordan, The No Agenda With The Egg That was in fact just a tad underproduced Because I really liked that piece. Well, this is the argument we got into before I sold Adam more or less on the Mary Critt We've but we saw not we didn't and we sold each other on that on the bite and yeah because but you were jacked out

1:21:40 About this one piece which was egg. It's called a jacked up Jacked up art by Joe you were jacked up art by Jordan, and it's just no Agenda with the O is A big brown egg and my complaint was that didn't have an Easter eat We want these kinds of shows as special shows especially We want an Easter, something about Easter. It's gotta be some Easter angle and this egg was not if it was decorated or something anything it was just too much of just an egg. It was clean! It was a very professional clean looking thing this is something you'd pay a studio for as simple as it is

1:22:24 Yeah, you like that piece. I liked it too but I didn't...I was missing that element. I would say more jitty than jacked up to be honest. You were jitty! To me you were jacked up. We appreciate Tante Neal, but all of the work that everybody does. And again this critique is only to make it better and I think it's a valuable service we send back to the artists. Nobody... let's put it this way not one of the artists and we have plenty have bitched and moaned about our critique they may disagree with it and sometimes you'll get a note yeah but with an explanation saying oh you missed a point which does happen mm-hmm uh

1:23:05 but generally speaking they appreciate it. Yes, at least we hope so and you know the whole... We think so for sure! Well the whole premise of The Value For Value Model which is what what we run on here is time talent treasure and has to be a complete feedback loop and also your not called listeners your not called fans your not called audience some of your are called trolls rightfully so but in general you're all producers And when someone sends me a clip, I'll be like okay. You know if someone goes to the trouble even it they go through the trouble of putting a clip together If it's no good, I'm gonna say okay Here's what you didn't do right? You see can do better in the future and and I don't think anyone takes offense to that because your producing That's exactly what it is and some producers are just out-of-sight good So yeah It's all meant to make the product better The product this for all

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Brookings Institution, Podcast Content Moderation Report

The Brookings Institution released a paper recommending stricter content moderation for podcasts, categorizing certain legal speech as "lawful but awful." The report suggests that major apps like Spotify and Apple need to develop more robust reporting mechanisms. Adam Curry urges listeners to switch to independent Podcasting 2.0 apps to avoid future de-platforming.

brookings institution· content moderation· spotify· apple podcasts· podcasting 2.0

1:24:00 Now before we get into thanking our executive and associate executive producers, I did want to shill for Podcasting 2.0 as i usually do around this time and the reason I'm doing it today is if you are listening to this podcast on anything but a modern podcast app or any podcast, you might want to reconsider your choice and use a modern podcast app from newpodcastapps.com The de-platforming is coming It's already here. I think Spotify and Apple, these are the two main apps are going to probably adhere to the policy recommendations from The Brookings Institution who wrote quite a nice paper. These are policy recommendations for addressing content moderation in podcasts it's a wonderful piece you must read this! I'll just highlight one

1:24:54 Debates over content moderation in podcasts hinge primarily on whether and how widely to share so-called lawful but awful content. You see, now we have categories. Do you like it? I love it. Lawful but awful. Somebody dreamed that one up and they've been sitting on it! Major podcasting apps, the applications commonly used on smartphones tablets and computers to listen and download the podcast episodes already have policies and procedures in place to deal with blatantly illegal content Spotify or Apple's podcast won't knowingly distribute an Islamic state recruitment podcast, since doing so would open them to prosecution for supporting a designated terrorist group. How podcasting apps should handle hate speech, misinformation and related content that is legal but may have harmful societal effects is far less clear

1:25:52 And then they have a quantifier why this is so important. Today, nearly 1 quarter, 1 quarter John! 25% of the US population gets their news from podcasts. Now you see why everyone's all... Growing market. Yep as that figure continues to rise the content moderation policies of major podcasting apps will need to mature accordingly Podcasts are now a mass medium, yet the content moderation policies and reporting mechanisms of many podcasting apps remain remarkably underdeveloped. As do the regulatory frameworks that oversee them." And these two jamokes who turn out our artificial intelligence data scientists they are recommending all kinds of algorithmically driven stuff

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Executive Producer Jeremy Slate, Command Your Brand

Jeremy Slate is knighted as Sir Jeremy Slate after a $900 donation. He discusses his PR agency, "Command Your Brand," and his upcoming book "Unremarkable to Extraordinary." The segment includes a "de-douching" for a producer in Western Pennsylvania and a discussion on the "wokeness" infecting the tech sector in Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

jeremy slate· command your brand· knighthood· pennsylvania· value for value

1:26:41 Of course. Well, we don't have to worry about that No! We don't because... Sure you can probably still get us on Apple Podcasts not on Spotify but will always be available on the Podcasting 2.0 apps and you should probably consider doing that besides the fact they have all these great extra features newpodcastapps.com Now we want to thank our first executive producer of episode 1444, Jeremy Slate from Newton New Jersey comes in with $900. He's got a blue box and he's got a purple box that means stuff is happening with Jeremy Slate let's see Thanks here's his note thanks to Adam for being did I say you gave us nine hundred dollars in support? Yeah fantastic thanks to Adam for being my partner. Where's Newton New Jersey I'd ask you. I think it's Northwest New Jersey

1:27:30 Thanks to Adam for being on my podcast this week. Oh, that's right yes Jeremy Slater. What podcast was this? This is oh goodness I did it just the other day he had he'd have to say he had been hounding me a very smart man He approached me and he, you know for the reminders this is to create your own life podcast. He started reaching out to Tina so yeah but and Tina's like hey should do this with this guy? And I was like of course I will! You know me...I still have to do Drymerica Like forget stuff then there's no push and then I forget about it but these were smart and went

1:28:09 He went to Tina and got that done. So it was a lot of fun, actually quite a nice podcast he said thank you to Adam for being on the podcast made me realize that I need to pony up since i've been listening since about episode 100! I was introduced the show back in the day by my college professor Sean Lake and started my own show in 2015 and later PR agency that only books podcasts command your brand! Podcasting has become my life and owe it all to you guys I have a book coming out on June 21st called Unremarkable to Extraordinary where I discuss the principles I've learned from people like the former CIA director, Hall of Fame athletes, four-time Indy 500 champ and even talk about you guys.

1:28:53 The Value for Value Model and Podcasting 2.0 If you could just give a shout out at Get Extraordinary Book dot com, getextraordinarybookdotcom And he wants to call out Shawn Lake as a douchebag, oops! Since it's been a long time that he has heard him donate Thanks for all you do no jingles no karma cheers Jeremy Ryan Slate I think this brings him to knighthood let me double check Yes, he becomes Sir Jeremy Slate today. So thank you very much and top exec good work!

1:29:45 and have been enjoying the content rent-free for two years now. Since the next show day, April 21st falls on my 29th birthday I decided it was time to pay up and receive my de-douching We've got that for ya! Where's my de-doucher? De-DOUCHER! You've been de-douched Over the past 2 years i left Arizona made several cross country trips before resettling in western Pennsylvania To be near family It's been fascinating to see the differences from state to state when I travel. The number of people living in fear shocks me, but I have also found solace in just how many people have kept their amygdalas in check and are recognizing the cracks in the narratives we are being told. Northern Indiana deserves a special shout out for having their heads on straight!

1:30:41 Okay, it's no wonder there are so many producers and meetups there. I want to give this special in the morning to all the producers who have gone above and beyond to provide meaningful analysis in their notes. The analysis that I've heard from supply chain agriculture and defense trades has been second-to-none! Please play the following jingles...I wanna sell some seeds I don't know about that. He wants, it's an Alex Jones, I guess. I want to sell some seeds two to the head in Monsanto. Finally working as a product leader in the startup world. I'm asking for a big dose of the fancy new Yellen Jobs karma as they seek to escape the wokeness that has infected so much of the tech sector and find a hybrid position in the Cleveland or Pittsburgh area. Okay? All right

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Donor Credits, Jobs Karma and Seed Man

The hosts process various donations, including a $333.33 contribution from "Umami Mama" who recently read Atlas Shrugged. They distribute "Jobs Karma" in response to Federal Reserve policies and mention a 420-themed radio appearance by Adam Curry. A promotion for Ebulls CBD is included as part of the value-for-value exchange.

janet yellen· atlas shrugged· jobs karma· 420· ebulls cbd

1:31:35 Good luck. So I could not find, I want to sell some seeds it's something that i'm not familiar with but I chose something appropriate from the seed man. We're dead already! You've got Jobs... jobs... jobs... karma. I like that yellow in Karma Yeah its kinda jazzy Especially since the moves that Federal Reserve is certainly going to make Not the Treasury, but will be to raise unemployment. Is that the whole idea of if you raise the rates then unemployment goes up as well? You're asking me? Yeah I was...you don't know. I don't know what they're doing Anonymous with our favorite executive producer donation 333.33 Clifton Heights Pennsylvania haven't had time to listen lately so this one's for all the epic newsletters John

1:32:33 Huh? P.S I read Atlas Shrugged recently and loved it! My husband said you'd have an opinion about this. No jingles, no karma love you guys. Oh umami mama oh here's my opinion umami mama you need to be listening especially mamas you gotta be listening to the show but she likes your newsletters John they're just not working together to tune in so you need to tweak it a bit Anna if you were reading Atlas Shrugged like him I can imagine why you were offline for about three months It takes a while to get through it. Thank you very much, Umami Mama! David Petrou... Oh what is it?

1:33:14 Piotrowski? Piotrowski, I would say. Piotrowski. That's probably Piotrowski. And Marcus in Wisconsin and i'm sure I got that wrong too 333 dot 33 again our favorite donation which is the executive producer special ITM John Ananime realized that today will roughly mark 333 days since listening to the no agenda pod It will also be the day of my first donation to the program, so please de-douche me. Yeah well you got it! You've been de-douched The donation accounts for about a dollar a day since my introduction but it's still not enough to account for all the laughter hohoho and insight YouTube provide each episode

1:33:56 Thanks for all you do. I'm certain that absorbing vicarious jobs karma from the show helped secure me a dream job after recent move to Wisconsin with my smoking hot fiance Cindy. The Karma is not a joke folks, if possible could you provide a little desperately needed house buying karma for us and all the home seeking no agenda listeners out there? Thanks again gents love is lit. You've got karma Another 3333 from Kamas, Washington. From Brian Koshus? I think it's a Koshus... In the morning gents been a listener since the first Rogan appearance. Please de-douche me! You've been de-douched! I've hit several people in the mouth and will continue to spread the word keep doing what you do no jingles no karma happy Easter Brian from Kamas Washington thank you and happy belated Easter to you Brian

1:34:57 Matt 333.33 in Waycross, Georgia been on board for a little over a year now Heading towards knighthood with this first contribution I need a de-douching You've been de-douched and I need to screw your freedom Matt in way cross screw your freedom Okay Next up we have Addison Todd. I haven't had a cent odd Has it been in while since we've heard from Addis and Todd feels like it just a field, Missouri three three three Thank You Addison Keep breaking the spells of the m5m mind control machine and may God bless you for your work producers and douchebags happy 420 deuce I So I yesterday morning

1:35:46 I did the, went on the morning show of KRVL like The Rock of Texas in Kerrville which is a small... yeah. The Hill Country radio station It was old-school, John. This was a morning show the studio had you know all the posters and crap on the wall They had bells slide whistles it was amazing to be dead live You know you could hear we had the headphones you heard that the FM Sound of the station and we celebrated 420 because it was very fun to be on the radio for a little bit I Noticed not you mentioned at that now one person took up but took us up under 420 donation

1:36:28 Yeah, because they're all LARPers man. They don't actually love the holy herb... No, they're LARPing Do yourselves a favor and save 33% on ebulls CBD with your code NOAGENDA at ebulls.com And he says explore my catalog of podcasting 2.0 compatible podcasts at tripod broadcasting calm most importantly piss off the elite and donate to no agenda the best podcast in the universe a few jingles, please mac and cheese My kids love it sing it non-stop as screw your freedom and a new Anything else that's good we got it for you

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Zine Culture, Anonymous Shanghai Donation

A producer from Portsmouth, Virginia, compares the No Agenda model to 1980s zine culture, specifically "Maximum Rock and Roll." An anonymous donor from Shanghai, currently under lockdown, sends a bank transfer and requests a classic clip titled "The Grouser." The hosts reflect on their long history of produced show intros and movie trailers.

zine· maximum rock and roll· shanghai· bank transfer· the grouser

1:37:10 Mac and cheese screw your freedom no, thank you very much Addison Todd Alexander Nettle net all in Portsmouth Virginia 333 and he says Thank you from fog fomc OG FOM K. What does that stand for? Don't know og og OG original Something I don't know. Well, it's ogf omk calm so maybe if I look at the website, I'll figure it out We love your show we it's not more than one person and you have picked up where we left off in 1988 we started a zine and that's what you're doing

1:38:03 Maximum rock and roll is our granddaddy. Your work deserves many Satoshis! Stay amygdala small, my friends! F-R-E-N-S Okay This is interesting Alright Tellin' zine talk Yes I'm looking at it right now It is a zine It's the OGFOMK Arts Constructive Technology Aggregate Whoa Let me see what they got here. Buddha and Bitcoin, cry for help from Ukraine... All right interesting I'll put that in the show notes for you Thank you very much Dexter Bonaparte is in Toronto Ontario Candinavia 31944 What do you think? Is that a specific number or is that a translate from the dollary dues

1:38:58 Do you know, do you have any idea if... is this the Canadian amount? No that would be lower than that if it was Canadian. Or maybe I've no idea Maybe he sent in 400 and it turned down to three- maybe sends in a thousand and that's only 390 It could be. More likely 420 than anything Uh, no note but Jenga request This is odd Fauci Wheeze Fauci Wheeze Then a yum Is there, do we have uh Isn't it beautiful yum? I'm thinking I don't think we have just yum. Yeah, i don't know if you have just yum. Okay beautiful yum half second pause Then fauci wheeze again and then jcd yeah yeah yeah let's try it i don't know if this is any good please pause Beautiful Yum Please Oops and then didn't work

1:39:53 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No no that's the same jingle not ad-libbing anything That's the only yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah had no no no no no yeah goes right into it. Oh Thanks for the acute accusation well This wasn't an accusation was a compliment Lisa Lynch in Foxboro Massachusetts 300 This is for my 419 birthday of three people. My father who have been it's been 88 my husband was 62 and me Who finished my 60th turn around the Sun? Yes, hope you're on earth when it happened yes We all have the same birthday now that's interesting well her I guess her dad passed away He would have been 88 yeah, but this birth date day on the same day Yeah, let's see that's no jingles only baby making karma for my daughter

1:40:49 Lisa Lynch in Foxborough. All right, baby making karma coming up you've got karma Anonymous is in Shanghai Wow are you allowed to even communicate from Shanghai? Don't you lock down like a dog this was done as a this is I don't even I hadn't This was done as a bank transfer $235 that makes more sense and so I think you can still do that um I don't know what the deal is Well good, well we're happy. He says if you wish to increase the chance for additional donation from my side you may also play one clip The Grouser I don't know what this is referring to... I have it! It's from episode 491 It's The Grouser Was that the title of it?

1:41:48 Coming soon from no agenda films Oh brother a journey into the mind of a curmudgeon Complained endlessly the grouser bull crap prepared to be buzzkilled I don't even remember this. You know, we had a whole different opening on show 200 that was like produced specifically for show 200 and it was just completely off the wall? No idea! And this is the same thing... We've done so many shows now that most of them are blank.

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers, Birthday and Anniversary Credits

The hosts thank several Associate Executive Producers, including Sir Steve from Australia and Brian Skelton from Cedar Park. The segment features multiple "switcheroo" donations where credits are transferred to family members, such as Nico Torres in Miami Beach and Tammy Collins in Missouri. Plans for a live meetup in Charleston, South Carolina, are also mentioned.

australia· charleston· miami beach· switcheroo· value for value

1:42:26 It's no, but it's the weirdest things that I will remember like you play a clip from you know The Brzezinski child About that's our job from 2017. That's five years ago boom. I got that one Yeah this the grass because it actually content related this other stuff is kind of ancillary so it's easy to forget I'd like it though That's our movie trailer. I guess Yeah, I guess. Coming soon on Netflix! That's the level of content we can afford... The Grouser Thank you, Anonymous from Shanghai. Sir Steve Night of the Southern Skies... Southern Skies Note it says on Southern Skies I think 250 this is a oh these are associate executive producers I should have said Cranbourne East in Victoria Australia thanks to you both for so many amygdala shrinking episodes since my last donation this $250 brings me a step closer to barrenhood no jingles no karma but i would like to give a quick shout out two producers and Herber Springs Arkansas

1:43:25 Yes, is that Arkansas? Of which there seems to be many. I'm an Australian but was fortunate to have spent a couple of years living there in my younger days beautiful country great people Hopefully I can escape the world's largest prison island soon and make another visit! A meetup shall be in order all the best Steve... Steve Fisher in Melbourne Australia. I thought that you could leave now And then I know that people are leaving Australia and flying to the United States Yeah, maybe he has not accepted the vaccine into his life. That's possible. Yeah it is possible. A couple here, Lisa Tatro in Columbia Missouri 250 no jingles no karma thanks for all you do and then I have the anonymous donation from Lake Oswego Oregon of $250 which incorporates an actual piece of paper it says keep me anonymous okay we do that

1:44:22 No jingles, just Jobs and Health Karma for all. Many thanks to you both for an outstanding product! Please keep it up! Cheers and warm regards! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs... Let's vote for Jobs! Youth Thoughts Karma Ah there is Brian Skelton We know Brian. Brian has been a producer for a bit now and I met him through Mackenzie Kelly, the councilwoman in Austin. Brian is in Cedar Park 233.67 in the morning One of my best accomplishments in life he says was receiving a hit-in-the-mouth This show has done more for me than therapy ever has

1:45:10 The No Agenda community is large, but the fraternity is close. I'm so appreciative of the friends I have made within the borders of Gitmo Nation! I won't name names but you know who you are. Two of you co-host a husband and wife show and one has made me late to work twice because we couldn't get off the phone. John is on this list too even though he thinks that I don't like him. I don't know him. Aren't we all? I can't wait to hang out with all the knights and dames in Charleston. Yes, this is May 16th, Charleston South Carolina he will be there as well much love and karma to all from FEMA region number six the soon-to-be Brian with an eye formerly known as Brian from Cedar Park formerly known as douchebag And we're gonna give you a goat karma there for you. No, you didn't ask for it. You've got karma Cynthia Ulietta I'm guessing in Candia New Hampshire 21699

1:46:18 Hi John and Adam, thanks for all the laughs. And thanks for not having found your exit plan quite yet and shout out to my fellow Gitmo Nation homes, homies in New Hampshire I'll see you soon during the Grockfest New Hampshire Grockfest NH. During awesome NOAH agenda meetup at Club Conspiracy when you see this synthesizer The super secret code word is Gitmo, short for Grok in the Morning. Details at grokfestnh.com RSVP a site at Area 51, FEMA Camp 33 or Bohemian Grove before they're all gone!

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CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

World Wildlife Fund, Insect Consumption in Schools

A school worksheet from the Netherlands, reportedly sponsored by the World Wildlife Fund, encourages third-grade students to color insects and draw a "scrumptious" insect sandwich. The hosts view this as a propaganda effort by globalist organizations to normalize the consumption of bugs as a protein source.

world wildlife fund· netherlands· insects· education· bugs

1:50:29 So it's they're always in the donation list for the birthdays Colton is the caboose in team ABC He loves playing with his big brothers Barrett and Archer. His favorite jingle is The Goat Scream Thanks for all you do Viscount dirty dig bangs of DC will add that goat into some karma form happy birthday Now we have We have Lindsey Fox $200 from Thorpe, Wisconsin sending message in separate email. I don't have it. I'm taking a quick look No, I do not have a Lindsey Fox So I will move on to Joshua McClain will be the last associate executive producer 200 bucks from Brian Brian I tell you Brian Texas College Station baby A&M

1:51:18 Reveley is that in Bryan, Texas? Well it's it's Brian College Station. They actually put them together Oh Who knew we learned something every day yes yesterday Thank you both for the excellent work you do I am now freshly de-douche with a fresh dose of karma under my belt. I want to thank all the producers for the fine work that they do...I think he did, I think he thinks by giving a donation you got dedouched without the de-douching? Well that's not right we gotta do that properly! You've been DEDOUCHED! I wanna thank all of producers for the fine work they do make this show very best podcast in the universe and working towards my official credentials as an historian with a degree in US history with minor in religion

1:52:02 Though this, which is interesting. So this scholarly training... One of my history professors at Cal always said you want to understand American history? You can't understand it at all if you don't read the Bible from cover-to-cover. No that's probably true! That was a famous historian named Winthrop Jordan Through this scholarly training I hope to add valuable content in the future. I can say withstanding that the quality of education for our children is lacking Especially with regards to history and civics. I ask basic questions to members of my staff regularly, and they have no idea what i'm asking! Many are currently in college, it's just heartbreaking." Again thank you both for the No Agenda community. Jingles, I like Karma. 73s. Oh he is also a ham from G5PDU73. 73s Keto 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie

1:52:59 I did want to say about the education, someone sent me a worksheet from...I think it's third graders in the Netherlands and it says and it's a screenshot. And it's in the top left-hand corners put it in the show notes there's little logo of The World Wildlife Fund with their you know their panda and It's in school books so this is sponsored by The World Wildlife Fund Or that was put in there by them. I'm not quite sure what the relationship is other than this was a worksheet and you have two assignments on this worksheet one is to color all of the bugs that are shown on the page, it's outlines of bugs color their legs and wings red And then draw a sandwich with the insect You would like to eat and it literally says printed on this page Insectin lecker

1:53:54 which translates to insects scrumptious for third graders. Oh my god! That's sick, isn't it? It's bordering on just sick this is the reptilians that are running the place. They want us to they want us to eat bugs. Well they want so it's not so noticeable when there eating bugs. Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers. You gotta give Joshua his karma. Got it sorry good catch Karma. Well, the collapse is not here yet. So do it quick! And thank you again for supporting episode 1444 of The No Agenda Show We'll be thanking more producers remember these credits are real Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Yes

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Ukraine Military Aid, Azovstal Steel Plant Mystery

The U.S. has committed over $4 billion in military aid to Ukraine, including 155mm Howitzers and artillery rounds. The hosts question the "black hole" of weapons tracking and focus on the strategic importance of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol. They speculate on why Russian forces have not flattened the facility despite the presence of Ukrainian holdouts.

mariupol· azovstal· howitzers· military aid· weapons smuggling

1:55:25 Well, we've got some... I wanted to do some Ukrainian stuff. Yes! I have some Ukrainian stuff to do too. First I want to read this...I got the debrief today that's in the newsletter by Defense One. Yeah talk a little more into the mic John you're really turning away. I gotta move them actually because I can't read this at the same time This is a debrief from Defense One and they talk about, I guess they're pushing for another... we talked about the 800 million additional. It says it also pushes the total US military aid to Kiev

1:56:03 over the four billion dollar mark since Biden took office and more than 3.4 billion since the invasion began it looks as though the next batch of aid will require some congressional approval we're just throwing money at these guys with it this is so what I heard was there's another so we and these are packages remember packages uh... so we had eight hundred million-dollar package and now but there's another 800 million dollar package coming I don't know, it's taken it to 3.4 billion could be this is the set this is the one that includes a 72 155 millimeter howitzers which we're told are just marine surplus 144 000 artillery rounds of course you know they're not shooting in these rounds into Russia

1:56:50 These are rounds that are being shot into Ukraine to further wreck the place. Yeah, but is that really true John? I'm not sure... No no i mean they could be selling them that's what I would do. Well here's what I'm thinking because the thing that irritates me is package they keep talking about package What if the packages Don't actually get unpacked in Ukraine. You know this whole thing could be a weapon smuggling operation to overthrow some or take charge of some country in Africa Yeah, I would not surprise me This is this is weird come out in the wash yeah This is very weird this packages of weapons now There's one little thing on this report that really got my attention Because it's something screwy about it and it's not being explained by the mainstream

1:57:38 related reading it says, this is a quote. Russia says it controls Mariupol but Ukrainian troops hold out in a steel plant via the Wall Street Journal reporting and Putin claims Mariupol claims that Mariupol win but won't storm the Ukrainian holdout. And that's what the Associated Press says and this is update Russia is planning to parade through Mariupol for a victory day on May 9th after making grinding progress against the remaining Ukrainian defenders in Mariupol's Azov Stall steelworks now

1:58:18 So these guys, the last of the brigades of the Ukrainian Nazi regime or whatever it is. These soldiers they know enough that this steel works is so important to the Russians that they can go in there and hold up because normally you think all these guys are all here let's just flatten a place Wouldn't you do that? Sure. But they refuse to do that, so there's something up with this steel plant I would like some mainstreamer somebody that does reporting somebody that might be over there tell me what the hell is going on here with this steel plant and why the Russians can't get these guys out of there and why then don't they just flatten it well The guy that would have been able to answer that for you has gone missing

CHAPTER 27 / 43 Discussion

Gonzalo Lira Missing, Weapons Tracking Fog of War

Chilean-American journalist Gonzalo Lira has reportedly gone missing in Kharkov after criticizing the Zelensky regime. Meanwhile, Defense Department officials admit to having "zero" fidelity in tracking weapons once they enter the "fog of war" in Ukraine. The hosts discuss the possibility of these weapons entering the black market.

gonzalo lira· kharkov· zelensky· defense department· weapons tracking

1:59:05 Have you ever seen Gonzalo Lira and his updates? Azimov, whatever the name of this group is. They took him, they cased him and killed him. We're not sure but I have a report on it. Now a Chilean-American journalist who's been covering the conflict from inside Ukraine has reportedly gone missing in the city of Kharkov fellow reporters now fear for his life saying Gonzalo Lira has been out of contact since last Friday Meanwhile, one of Ukraine's nationalist leaders has posted a series of tweets in his private account mockingly claiming the journalist might have been abducted and killed by quote some guy with the call sign Chile. Gonzalo Lira is 54 years old and has been living in Ukraine for the past few years he was in Kiev when the conflict erupted in February and then traveled to Kharkov to cover the fighting there He has repeatedly criticized the Ukrainian government and armed forces for their actions

2:00:04 At the end of March he tweeted that he called the truth about Zelensky's regime, adding he might disappear as did other critics of Kiev some of whom were later found dead. Yeah? So we don't know exactly... There is no reporting it's because they didn't like the guy! They didn't like him?! A real reporter does his job this is a risk you take yeah I don't know if he was a real reporter or he was doing real reporting But he was not, not paid by anything anybody as far as I didn't know what he did actually or does. Nope He's okay sucks. He's not okay Yes, do you have some Ukraine stuff? Are you leading into something here? You got something now? I just wanted to start with this because there's these mysteries that are starting to crop up you pointed out one of them Where is the where's this stuff going? Yeah They've asked two or three people and they say why we can't say it's national security Well, no actually its worse than that

2:01:01 I have a quote here. We have, this is... who was this? Someone from the Defense Department. We have fidelity tracking the weapons packages we have fidelity for a short time but when it enters the fog of war we have almost zero! The weapons often fall into a quote big black hole. Uh-huh Yeah. I don't see... Somebody pointed out you can barcode them, put RFID tags on them that might help! I just don't see any evidence of them being used in any warfare all we see is well here's what Russia did here's what Russia did Russia destroyed this rush yeah and we need more we need more yeah need more to then I never see him firing i never see any I just never see it Well heres the Ukraine renew supplies report

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Russian ICBM Test, Ukrainian Heavy Weaponry Training

Vladimir Putin oversaw the test launch of a new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) as a warning to Western nations. Simultaneously, the U.S. is training Ukrainian forces in neighboring countries to operate heavy artillery. The hosts contrast the conventional weaponry being sent to Ukraine with Russia's nuclear posturing.

icbm· vladimir putin· howitzers· npr· eastern ukraine

2:01:54 A senior defense official says 18 howitzers the US promised Ukraine are now arriving in Eastern Europe. His NPR's Greg Myrie reports the massive artillery guns are seen as critical for looming battles in eastern Ukraine We should probably put QR codes on those Howitzer so we could track them Imagine a howitzer with the QR code. Hey man, we tracked this down the supply chain US flights carrying some of the Howitzers arrived Tuesday in an unspecified country near Ukraine The u.s. Official said adding that more were on the way The U.S is already training Ukrainians in a nearby country on how to use 155 millimeter artillery guns

2:02:33 Ukraine says it desperately needs such heavy weaponry and Russia is moving more of its own artillery into eastern Ukraine, where ongoing fighting is expected to escalate. The US official said quote, artillery is going to be critical in this fight also the U.S has provided spare aircraft parts that have allowed Ukraine to repair and return to service more than 20 of its own warplanes in the past three weeks So, we're sending over howitzers. And, you know that's been making a big deal out of the packages. The weapons packages but then you get this from Russia. Meanwhile Vladimir Putin is showing off the latest addition to his nuclear arsenal test launching a new intercontinental ballistic missile he said it's quote food for thought for those who threaten Russia Why don't we send over some ICBMs to the Ukrainians? Let them wipe that shit off let see how that goes We dont want to do that

CHAPTER 29 / 43 Discussion

Global Citizen, Stand Up For Ukraine Pledges

The "Stand Up For Ukraine" campaign, organized by Global Citizen and the European Union, has reportedly raised 9.1 billion euros in pledges. EU President Ursula von der Leyen announced the funds are intended for refugees and internally displaced persons. The hosts question the transparency of these globalist fundraising efforts and their link to a predicted food crisis.

global citizen· ursula von der leyen· european union· refugees· food crisis

2:03:34 During the Oscars, was it the Oscars? No. The Grammy Awards I'm sorry The president of Ukraine did a little speech on video and he promoted throughout the entire show is the stand up for Ukraine Stand Up For Ukraine remember this? Oh yeah it was an embarrassment Well its gotten more interesting actually Stand Up for Ukraine is a campaign from Global Citizen. globalcitizen.org, these are the people who do the big Kumbaya concert in Central Park that's broadcast live and mainly Disney related or ABC even sometimes CBS so see MSN maybe it's just all mainstream if you look at the partners of Global Citizen I'll just go to the page read you a couple of the names we have

2:04:27 core partners, Procter & Gamble, Cisco Verizon Delta Live Nation Accenture Citibank Google Salesforce Coca-Cola Weight Watchers Worldwide Technology Hilton Hotels worldwide Coca-Cola it goes on and on. So this is a globalist operation global citizen yeah it's usual suspects the same kind of sponsors you see in the Olympics Lauren Powell Jobs is a big supporter she gives them a lot of money And on April 8, which was recent hundreds of thousands of global citizens came together to stand up for Ukraine resulting in billions of dollars pledged for refugees. Now we must act to help prevent the global food crisis that is coming because of this conflict. Let me just repeat that now we must act to help prevent the global food crisis that is coming because of this conflict

2:05:23 And this is in the context of stand-up for Ukraine. So I'm not sure if they wanted to raise money for Ukraine or for everybody else who's going to be hungry They do have an impact report and the top line is the global social media rally brought, this is their campaign. Brought together hundreds of thousands of global citizens including artists athletes actors and creators to stand up for Ukraine Their voices and actions helped make sure that billions of dollars were committed during a pledge summit To help refugees from Ukraine around the world Well this summit was run by the European Union

2:06:00 In fact by the president of the EU Starfleet command herself Ursula von der Leyen. Here she is as if she's hosting a game show. Final tally I think you are no boss. No, you are the boss! You're the president and i'm definitely not the president Am I supposed to okay let me have a look at The figures I see So whoa Whoa we have finally The world has finally pledged 9.1 billion euros through this campaign and in addition, hold on, in addition... But wait there's more! ...the commission working with EBRD adds another billion for the IDPs in Ukraine This is fantastic so 10.1 euros and if you say that in dollars it's even more

2:06:59 slight slam at the US So they raised the total of what says here 9.1 billion euros The global campaign has raised nine point one billion euros for people fleeing the Russian invasion inside Ukraine and abroad What I can't find is how they will give this money out Okay, I just can't find you'll never find it have no and what is the point? Other than a kumbaya let's all feel good about what we're doing for Ukraine Where's the money going? I thought I thought it was for food for the coming food crisis So this is a global scale, something's going on here. There are reasons. Global scale... Reasons? ...to get money any way you can. These people are scroungers at the highest level that we could only dream about. Scroungers. That's a good point they're scroungers. They're scroungers, massive scroungers! Well there's another

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Malcolm Nance, International Legion in Ukraine

Former MSNBC contributor Malcolm Nance appeared on the network in full combat gear, claiming to have joined the International Legion in Ukraine. The hosts analyze Nance's background in naval cryptology and his "Terror Asymmetrics Project," suggesting his involvement is a form of "spook LARPing." They also note his mention of friends at the Defense Language Institute.

malcolm nance· msnbc· international legion· joy reid· spooks

2:07:53 Another soon-to-be nonprofit is not yet registered as a 501c3, the Terror Asymmetrics Project. I don't know if you've heard of this? It's quite the operation! The Terror Asymmetrics Project is in fact run by Malcolm Nance former MSNBC contributor Malcolm Nance always has a big mouth he's always complaining about... isn't he the former CIA FBI LMNOP guy Yeah, he's something like that. Yeah so... He apparently went to Ukraine to join the fight!

2:08:34 And he appeared on MSNBC, the news reports say he left his lucrative job as a stringer for MSNBC. He's not even invited in the studio anymore! As a stringer for MSNBC and Joy Reid had him on... many of you have seen this It's funny because it's Malcolm Nance, the guy you usually see sitting at home in his office talking crap about anything Republican. now in full combat gear with an AK-47. Oddly, it seems to not have a charging handle on it that's we're not quite sure what was going on with his weapon. It's also strung around his neck with this strap...not really military issue but he looks the business! He's got is a he's got his flak jacket on has big words Nance so he's there and he's in the woods

2:09:27 in the dark and he's talking to Joy Reid. He is doing something about this, John! We just watched that video of you and Ali Arouzi was attempting to interview you for us, uh...to get more information on what you're doing. We saw those cruise missiles fly overhead so explain to us why are there and what you are doing? Well as you know I spent quite a bit of time here in the pre-war period

2:10:02 And when the invasion happened, I had friends who were in Donetsk who were in the Ukrainian army. Who are writing to us and telling us we're not going to survive tonight. We've been hit 500 times. You know these graduates at Defense Language Institute these are my friends and you know as more I saw of the war going on the more I thought I'm done talking. Alright, it's time to take action here so about a month ago i joined the international legion here in Ukraine and I am here to help this country Fight you know what essentially is a war of its extermination this is an Existential war and Russia has bought it to these people, and they are mass murdering civilians And there's one before he continues I just wanted to mention because it's kind of odd that he says no. I was here pre-war What were you doing in Ukraine? We on vacation No, I had friends there where his friends let me tell ya his friends were at the Defense League Institute and

2:11:01 That's just glossed over. That is a United States Department of Defense educational and research institution, okay? Spooks. Spooks in Ukraine! Let me read his bio before we continue. Malcolm Nance born in 61 he's 60 so he's 61 actually go or be 61 in September So he's old for you know foot soldier But he's an American author and media pundit on topics related to terrorism, intelligence insurgency in foreign affairs. He is a former United States Navy senior chief petty officer. Does that mean he manages the pencils? So he's a navy guy?

2:11:40 He's a Navy guy, no he could be a pencil pusher or paper pusher specializing in naval cryptology which is that his specialty? Okay. Nance is an intelligence and foreign service analyst who are foreign policy analysts who frequently discusses the history personalities and organization of jihadi radicalization Al Qaeda and the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant South West Asian and this guy you know we always like to spot the spook mm-hmm This guy seems like a phony like a phony spook

2:12:16 Yeah, a phony spook. A LARPer! He's a LARP spook. He could be a LARPer. He wrote a bunch of books that maybe he wrote and maybe didn't as we've talked about before in 2014 this one he found and became the executive director of the Terror Asymmetric Project on Strategy Tactics and Radical Ideology which is basically a one-page website with a PayPal donate link yeah And so then he's now, and it shows in his background military career United States Navy. And then he supposedly joined... He is a member of the terrorist defense forces in Ukraine. Yes! This is this is a screwball story Well I think that the guy is sad

2:13:03 I don't even, sadly he may actually believe he's making some kind of difference but... He got kicked out. I think it was kind of pushed out of MSNBC they didn't they were not having him on and so now we decide he's got the terror isometrics project which is I guess to fundraise for himself And he's got a little office over there in Ukraine. I mean, I saw the whole piece He's got a little office he's got gear and he's got is just looking impressive doing stuff on the laptop He's doing something about the situation John Weapons packages are not enough. You can send 3.5 billion dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine without Malcolm Nance, nothing will go right. Fight what essentially is a war of extermination this is an existential war and Russia has bought it to these people and they are mass murdering civilians And there are people here like me who were here to do something about

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

Malcolm Nance MSNBC Interview, Cruise Missile Incident

During a live interview with Joy Reid, Malcolm Nance reacted to what he claimed were Russian cruise missiles flying overhead. The hosts scrutinize the footage, noting the lack of visible missiles in the sky and Nance's dramatic commands. They compare the segment to a video game and question the authenticity of the reporting.

malcolm nance· joy reid· cruise missiles· caliber· lviv

2:14:01 And we have some video here. This is a video that was shot by Ali's team of yourself with some supplies and the things that you are working on while you're there We know they're about 20,000 people from 52 countries That are currently in Ukraine and have been there from the start of the war What our international troops like yourself what are you all tasked to do? Well, we are here for one purpose and one purpose only. And that is to protect the innocent people of Ukraine from this Russian aggression! And you know it's not a conventional war joy even though if you have two armed forces going head-to-head here what you have is another group I won't even refer to the Russians as an army just using mass heavy weapons that are used in combat against civilians Now this is where...I think he misspoke

2:14:52 He says you have two sides, Ukraine and Russia. Then you have another group who are just murdering civilians is he referring to the Azov battalion? I think he misspeaks here let's check it. What are you all tasked to do well Well, we are here for one purpose and one purpose only. And that is to protect the innocent people of Ukraine from this Russian aggression. And you know it's not a conventional war joy even though if you have two armed forces going head-to-head here what you have is another group I won't even refer to the Russians as an army just using mass heavy weapons that are used in combat against civilians

2:15:34 They are destroying infrastructure and then you find that they go to the cities and they massacre men women and children Yeah, it just went on from there. But the best part was, and she talked about it just before that they showed him being interviewed which looks like it would be a Ukrainian city. It's actually the city is bustling you know everyone in the background he's being interviewed and then suddenly they realize that there's something going on are we at air raid? And as stated oh I saw the ICBM Joy read him says We saw the ICBM well I watched video

2:16:15 They show the sky, but you'd never see the ICBM. There's no little circle look here It is I did it frame by frame You can't see it not denying that it was there But this piece of him all of a sudden to out on the street and then it's like oh wait a minute Are we in an air raid? And then he's jumping up and any and he becomes Malcolm Malcolm Nance You know like War of Worldcraft. Yeah, what is it? What does the other one? Call of Duty And he's barking out commands and it's like, he's calling out stuff that makes us know that he really is on top of what's happening in warfare. Ukraine's unique territory... Is that going down? No But I've never seen a fast mover Where'd it go? Yeah, I heard one boom Are we at an air raid? Yes We are, we had the air raids Wait! There'll be three! Stand by We're getting hit, there's a 500 pound bomb

2:17:13 Let's get the boarding on. I agree, bro. It's coming from the east-southeast so those are Caliber anti ship missiles they're striking to the west striking to the west that's two What was that plane? We should get at least one more That wasn't a plane it was a cruise missile That was a cruise missile Yeah Wait for one more they're fired in 30 second intervals They fire them in thirty second intervals Smoke! There we go Stand by Three cruise missiles Caliber! Standby You gotta see this! Smoke Cruise Missile Caliber Stand By It's just pointing at an empty sky with the city just going on before him. You know, everything is fine It's really really odd that this is taken seriously Actually I want to enhance his little thing a little bit make him sound a little more official Malcolm Nance on the scene ladies and gentlemen he's not the only person who wants to go to Ukraine to fight

CHAPTER 32 / 43 Discussion

Maxine Waters, Volunteer Trips to Ukraine

Representative Maxine Waters expressed support for U.S. officials volunteering to visit Ukraine, though she warned that Putin might try to kill President Biden if he visited. The hosts discuss the "Putin Price Hike" narrative used by the administration to explain inflation. They also briefly mention ongoing riots involving Muslim migrants in Sweden.

maxine waters· joe biden· putin price hike· sweden· riots

2:18:11 I mean this is now rampant within our establishment. Have Mo explain to you what a shuck and jive artist is, and use it in terms of this guy. Now I also think you might be seeing some people joining up because they're there this is the last opportunity to do a throwback to the Spanish Civil War or the Spanish Revolution that one that where they fought were the good guys fought the Nazis in Spain Yeah. And maybe some sort of hero complex, I'm not sure... Without doubt the international Ukrainian forces or whatever they call it is real there's Americans going over there's a lot of people who are just jacked up about fighting. They love going over and they're jacked-up about fighting like cool man I'm gonna go fight him goes kill somebody and i will point out you remember when Joe Biden was talking to the 82nd Airborne

2:19:07 Saying, you know by this time tomorrow. You'll see the people in the streets of Ukraine and everyone laughed at him because they were going to Poland I Have very reliable information The 82nd Airborne is in Ukraine or at least members of them are in Ukraine and they are advising I'm sure they are. I'm sure there's somebody there, there's got to be. Mattie, I don't know what the point of this keeping this thing going is... Putin's price hike! It's a good excuse for putting Putin on the price hike. Yeah. I was just gonna say that same thing. We gotta keep it up. This makes it we'll take this right to the midterm elections and blame everything on Putin because they got Trump out of office using this trick? So let's see how stupid the American public is do you think maybe they'll buy into the Putin price hike

2:19:59 Jan Saki says it, Biden says it. They use this term Putin price hike Let's go to Maxine Waters, another potential shuck-and-jive artist. Should President Biden heed the request of President Zelensky of Ukraine and go to Ukraine? Well let me just tell you that this president has been awfully responsible for making sure that we get weapons and equipment. And just recently I think another 800 billion in equipment going to Ukraine were all working as hard as we possibly can. I believe with all of the intelligence that we have, if Putin knew that Biden was coming he would try to have him killed so we have to be very careful about that We want our president to be safe as we do the work that we can do to help out in every way that we can This is about Biden coming over Ukraine

2:21:00 So if not President Biden, which American official do you think should go to Ukraine to see with their own eyes what's happening there? I do believe that elected officials should volunteer if they want to go and make that trip. But, I don't think we should absolutely try and assign or force any of the elected officials to go but there are many of us who would perhaps volunteer to go and those are the ones who should go Wait, there are those of us who would volunteer to go. Would you go? Are you volunteering? Of course! Oh, what?! Absolutely! Go! Yeah! I want to see Malcolm Nance and Maxine Waters in camo. Maxine Waters isn't going... No she'll go! She's full as shit this woman! She'll go over there. She'll go over there. I believe that. You're gonna put five bucks on it? Yeah, I'll take your five

2:22:00 Okay, yeah be careful by the time we find out next week that may only be worth four That's the Putin inflation so this is yes. I mean I think we've kind of seen it now We have no idea what the truth is Everybody's lying but all that we're getting is Putin price hike and of course They're now up to five million refugees they say I don't know. We just don't know there is no reporting that we can really trust other than the migrant situation in Europe is not going to improve with 5 million streaming and it's not just gonna stay in Poland of course, you see Sweden? Sweden's imploding again! There are riots and they're doing the whole blowing up burning cars on the streets...Sweden

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Ukrainian Offensive, Military Optimism in Odessa

President Zelensky claims the Ukrainian army has proven itself superior to the Russian military, leading to reports that Ukraine may soon launch a counter-offensive. An NPR report from Odessa suggests that U.S. military aid packages are fueling this optimism. The hosts remain skeptical of the official military narratives coming from the region.

odessa· zelensky· offensive· npr· military strategy

2:22:57 Well, who's the people that are doing it? Who is behind you? These are the previous migrants. The Muslim migrants. Oh those... they're back in Syria. What they're getting ignored or something and so they're trying to get attention again I'm not sure but it's messy In Sweden which is just so weird It is Land of Abba land of Roxette I got this last Ukraine clip which is Zelensky First, he's bragging even though he needs more stuff and then now it sounds like they're going to go on the offensive. Zelensky says the way our armed forces are holding up shows the Ukrainian army deserved to be ranked higher than the Russian army and we hear this kind of optimism everywhere in Ukraine a spokesman for the military governor here in Odessa who asked to be identified only by his first name Eugene

2:23:51 Told NPR that Ukraine might actually go on the offensive in the coming days Hmm with our package help that much with our package With a big package or package take one defensive. Take our packaging so Ukraine we really just don't know other than Putin's price hike and we'll see what's next to cover up the The horrible state of inflation and financial systems that just don't seem to be functioning very well now I have No more Ukraine stuff. I can go different directions, but I wanted to take a break and do two NPR clips that are just to me... Are they fun? Fun to listen too? Well, I don't know one of them is okay One of them is I never thought I'd ever see it Now I think that I probably have seen it and I missed it

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NPR Native Ad, Taco Bell Mexican Pizza

The hosts identify a two-minute segment on NPR about the return of Taco Bell's Mexican Pizza as a "native ad." The piece features comedian Rima Parikh discussing the item's popularity among South Asian Americans. The hosts argue the segment's precise timing and promotional content violate NPR's traditional journalistic standards.

npr· taco bell· mexican pizza· rima parikh· native advertising

2:24:48 which is a native ad on NPR. And the giveaway that it's a native ad, besides its content for Taco Bell... It's very creative, very creatively done. But it's curious and I have it timed out. I have the clip is exactly two minutes not 145, not 142. That that's always the giveaway is the timing now so a native ad let's just explain a native ad would be its couched as content

2:25:27 As a story, there's probably no disclaimer at the beginning or end that this is paid for advertisement. Which of course we can't really prove but it's also not in the charter of NPR to take this type of advertising they're supposed to have underwriting or advertising, whatever you want to call it. Oh my goodness! Does she work for NPR? Does she work for Taco Bell?!

2:26:04 That's comedian. She actually she brought in, she is a the outside. She is source that they use. They introduce her. Is she food specialist? In a back and as well. Well, she really horrible Fans of Taco Bell Mexican pizza received good news this week The food chain is bringing back the beloved menu item You have two like fried tortillas are like kind glued together with beans or meat whatever you want to do That's comedian and writer Rima Parikh, who wrote an essay professing her love for the Mexican pizza. The top there is like the cheese or the tomatoes that used to have green onions they don't have those anymore Of course there is no such thing in true Mexican cuisine but Taco Bell creation has developed a strong following especially among South Asian Americans The disappointment ran deep when it was pulled from the menu about a year-and-a-half ago Taco Bell said it wanted to make way for new menu items

2:26:53 But Parikh was lost without her go-to that she'd even customized. I would swap out the meat with beans and then a little bit later on, I started adding potatoes and nacho cheese sauce That ability to customize the Mexican pizza is part of what made it popular among South Asian Americans People's parents moved here in the 80s and the 90s. They didn't have a lot of options for fast food, especially if they ate vegetarian which you could do for a variety of reasons like you don't eat beef or like you're trying to eat halal. So talk about that. Hold on a second! You know, if you're a vegetarian you can eat for a number of reasons. Like you may not want to eat meat because your like a vegetarian or you wanna eat halal. Lady! Thank you for explaining what vegetarian means. Parents moved here in the 80s and 90s they didn't have like a lot of options for fast food especially if they ate vegetarian which you could do for variety of reasons like you don't need beef or your trying to eat halal

2:27:51 So Taco Bell, where you could swap the beef for beans became the place to go. Chris Jagadar who got hooked on the Mexican pizza as a kid says that spicy flavors also appealed to Indian Americans. I think in a lot of ways it's kind of like as close they can get to like Indian fast food while still being obviously part of American culture When Taco Bell removed the Mexican Pizza from the menu, Jagadar started a Change.org petition to bring it back He says it's spread like wildfire. I'm talking about like old Indian uncles and aunties, that are sharing in their groups. He got more than 170 thousand signatures and last week to Jagadar surprise Taco Bell got in touch to thank him for stoking the movement And to tell him that the Mexican pizza hits menus again on May 19th Both he and Parikh have the day marked on their calendars Ooh! And outro music to make it perfect

2:28:44 Two minutes exactly? Yeah. What you heard, it says probably should say two minutes on your little run down there It does! That's exactly it Which is always a sign that its native ad because they can't... Because these advertising guys only think in these terms minute to minute by minutes This was the most pathetic thing I've ever heard on NPR. It was a blatant promotion for some, who knows what this product is? I never even heard of it! The Mexican pizza which is two tortillas...two hard tortillas. Which is really necessary for- Two tostadas pushed together

2:29:22 Okay, now the other NPR so that's my complaint there. Well hold on a second I just want to understand whose is it possible that this Rima Parikh the comedian That she has the sponsorship deal? I'm just trying to figure out where money is and where its going No way No. She may be related somehow, maybe it was the Taco Bell people that had her on the hook and she may be getting paid by them and you know they're advertising agencies, yeah we're working with this comic she's got a lot of good things to say about it can you bring her in? And she comes in blathering like a maniac like you pointed out right away that doesn't even fit into the NPR schema

2:30:04 Let alone, you know make any sense But I think that the advertising agency package this and is do we even know if she's funny? I never heard of her. Is she Mexican? Hmm. I don't know You're asking crazy questions. Oh, well, did you bring this now? She's not Mexican. She's uh... She was even talking about it. She's Indian or maybe Pakistani This was a promotion to the Indian audience. I think so too yeah Wow. Good move, I thought kudos to Taco Bell Oh wait a minute! Currently she's a headline contributor at The Onion Is this whole thing an onion joke? No it is not... I would be okay with that! NPR using it well makes it funnier Is that in fact against the rules for NPR to do this

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NPR Non Sequitur, World's Oldest Chihuahua

A short NPR report on a 21-year-old Florida Chihuahua named Toby Keith is criticized for its lack of substance. The hosts point out that the story opens with a proverb about teaching old dogs "new tricks" but fails to mention any tricks the dog performed. They cite this as an example of declining material quality at the network.

npr· chihuahua· toby keith· guinness world records· florida

2:30:58 With the native ad or the onion? The native ad. I don't think so, not anymore. They don't care. Yeah they don't care. Now here's another one that just bugged me it was a short 32 second bit which is more in line with what they do That was non sequitur. They bring up a topic at the beginning and never address Well, I thought you know the thing is. I really like this something you bring something in then you never talk about it again. This is the dog clip. This is the NPR non sequitur dogs

2:31:35 There's a saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks but long-lived Florida Chihuahua may be the exception to that rule. According to the Guinness World Records, the tiny chihuahua named Toby Keith has made it into the record books as the world's oldest living dog The seven-pound pooch making it the ripe old age of 21 which in dog years is very old. K9 Toby Keith's owner Gisela Shore says he was the last pup of a litter left in a cardboard box, in 2001 when she found him. Shore attributes Toby Keith to Chihuahua's long life to genetics, a good diet and lots of love Alright, so this is a story about a dog that made it 20 years old? I had a dog that was 24. So dogs get older than this dog and i'm sure there's older dogs in 21 out there but...so it's bullcrap! But the premise of the article was you can't teach an old dog new tricks. You can't teach an old dog new tricks well the exception is this dog

2:32:34 And then they tell us about the dog, but what's the new trick? Not dying apparently. I mean this is the worst piece that NPR has ever done! They messed up the joke and it should have been... It's like roll over play dead you know that is one of them that they should have worked out in there somehow. They're struggling for material Well, when they say that you can't teach an old dog new tricks and we've got a dog that they taught it...an old dog. What's the new trick? They never bring a trick into it! The new trick- I'm telling ya this is the worst clip I've ever collected The new trick is to interrupt podcasts by telling one of the hosts the dogs gotta go party! I'm gonna show my smould by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, they'd be fab! On NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

Donor Thank Yous, Meetup Announcements

The hosts read a long list of $100 and $50 donors, including Sir Kevin McLaughlin and Sir Patrick Coble. Coble is tasked with overseeing upcoming No Agenda meetups in Seattle, Charlotte, and Denver. The segment includes birthday shout-outs for various producers and their family members across the United States and Europe.

charlotte· seattle· denver· meetups· value for value

2:33:25 It's got nothing to do with my dog. Yeah, so we have a few people to thank for show one four four four four four four lot of fours fours a row of fours four and starting with Morgan met medlock in Forrest Washington he's got a birthday call it coming Angela Pickering in Sour Lake Texas sour lake Texas One, two three four five. Is that? What is it Sour Lake what a place! I don't know i have no idea where it is I've never been as far as I know. Now sour David Britton in Charleston South Carolina 115 Mary Ann Mc... Mc... McNamee in Boulder Creek California 105 Donald Gates 100 Gabriel Guzman in Fort Wayne Indiana hundred

2:34:23 Dame Salty in Manchester, New Hampshire. 100. Amy Beldman APO that's in the military or who knows? A hundred. Jeremiah Shepard a hundred. Hold on, Jeremiah is new donor needs to deducing. You've been de-douche'd We need a lot of $100, flat hundred dollar donations. We should make something special out of those. Because after that what happens? We get Sir Kevin McLaughlin the Duke of Luna and the lover of America and the lover of boobs giving a boob donation of 8008 in Concord North Carolina he's the only one. Sir Jude in New Hill North Carolina another North Carolinian 7733 Fabrice

2:35:10 To Chew Me in Anaheim, California. A Easter donation also a birthday? 75. Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits Federal Way Washington. Sir Pete in Amsterdam...in Amsterdam! You know where that is? I'm just looking at Fabrice's note. Easter donation also my birthday you're on the list. I've been a bit man overboard for awhile but need to listen again this is the second person who has recognized that they need to come back and listen again this is encouraging Sir Michael's, Michael Anthony, oh sir Michael Anthony in Jamaica New York 6789 Kevin McAtee and Centennial Colorado

2:35:56 What was Michael and Anthony's got some... who is it? He put together a video kind of like a deep fake that is obvious, mocking Fauci. I'll put the link in there yeah it's pretty funny. The Gummy Nerdz in Green Bay Wisconsin 5678 Kevin McAtee I said that in Centennial Colorado 60 Carl Zdowski in Niles Illinois just outside of Chicago 5544 Dean Roker 5510 Sir Luke Rainer the Earl of London and South in the Southeast in London 5510 he's got a

2:36:35 I don't know what he's got in there. Sir Patrick Coble, ah! He's the Duke of the South. American Duke of the South? Happy birthday to Dame Sarah you are the best wifey i love you. I have a couple of quick NA meetups coming up soon next week on the 28th in Seattle at The Patty Coyne Irish Pub out in Bellevue on May 10th In Charlotte, May 17th in Denver. Patrick Kobel's job now is to go around and make sure the meetups are being held properly with that they're adhering to all regulations of the meetup The heads need to be the right size on the proper length stick Sir Patrick Kobel to the rescue! Somebody has gotta do it Nathan Garz is next on list 5510 in Whitestown Indiana David Peat in Decatur Texas 55 Anonymous in Louisville Kentucky 5420

2:37:26 Sir Michael Anthony in Rosedale, New York. I got a bunch of these guys in here either by the way They like to where they incorporated the 420 with 54 20 that's cute says nobody picked up on the promotion wait a minute Hold on hold on stop stop sir Michael Anthony is in here twice Yeah, I know the guys are interesting and he's happy for 20 okay Thank You sir Michael Anthony yeah Christopher Reese in Wichita, Kansas $50.49 and he has a birthday shout out for his gorgeous wife Margie And you're on the list.

2:38:25 Kevin O'Brien, these are all $50 donors name and location. Kevin O'Brien Chicago Robert Case in Mill Springs North Carolina Scott Lavender our buddy in Montgomery Texas Sir Scott Daniel Laboye Sir Daniel in Bath Michigan's Joel Skiba Skiba I think is Shreveport Louisiana which is actually where it got cut off Julian Robinson Aptos California Lucas Deaton in Dayton Andrew Gusick, Sir Andrew in Greensboro North Carolina Dame Knight in Edmonds Washington wraps it up and that's our group of well-wishers and producers for show 444. 1444. Thank you to these producers also to the producer who came in under the $50 mark which we always do for anonymity

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

Curry Family Reunion, Sunday Show Delay

Adam Curry announces a trip to New York for a family reunion and the interment of his father, who passed away in 2019. Due to the travel and family events, the Sunday episode of No Agenda will be delayed by several hours. Darren O'Neill is expected to provide a four-hour "rock and roll pre-show" to fill the gap on the live stream.

new york· curry family· airbnb· live stream· darren o'neill

2:39:13 Also, people can be on many of these sustaining donations that we have which are smaller amounts but they're recurring and that always helps as a good base when things get a little bit slower. Thank you also thank you to the executive producers and associate executive producers who have titles that you can use... shut up I'm finishing up! Who have titles that you could use anywhere, titles are recognized John did you have something to say? Yes, Joe Shee-ski-ba or shee-bah in Shreveport needed a de-douching and I missed it. Ah! No problem. You've been de-douched Now i have a request of you and the producers Tomorrow we fly early to New York We hope to fly to New York that'll be interesting We hope to make it to New York This is very important because Saturday

2:40:04 My father is being interned in Arnmark, New York. He's been living in my sister's closet and in a box for about three years he passed away in 2019 this has turned into a sort of not just sort of a mini curry family reunion My sisters are coming in, Tiffany from Holland, Willow from Italy with their spouses and children. Christina is flying in so we're all going to be in a huge Airbnb, all like 15 of us or something And so there's all kinds of things. Now, I have not been part of the organizing committee of this weekend event. I am usually on the paying committee. Who is going to help pay for this? So that's where I'm at but because of this there is a lunch... This will be actually the big get-together on Sunday

2:41:10 which starts at 11 and I think ends at 1 or something. So we used to do this from time-to-time, I do not want to forego a show because we just had two best of's so i'm doing the show, taking the studio, taking the gear... I'm gonna get up with the crackin' dawn to produce but I would request that we start Sunday Show a couple hours later if that's okay? Well it's okay with me That's the most important thing I needed to hear As a courtesy, I was offering the producers of say in this but Yeah, I mean I have to be at this lie. Have to be We start the show instead of my time 9 11. Yeah, that's the I would go until 6 7 8 9 o'clock at night Probably than it'll probably going to Monday and the way

2:42:09 So yeah, I can do it. I think that's fine. I don't have anything planned for Sunday that I can think of that would be good Good. I appreciate that everybody appreciates upon this and And so yes Darren will do a dog might not like it by the way Oh the dog left plenty if dogs me like hey man, it's time for you to interrupt you why aren't you working? What's going on Darren O'Neill has already committed to doing a four-hour rock and roll pre show He hasn't really committed to it. If there's a time I can contribute my one hour of content for his show? Oh, there you go! You should get in touch with Darren and it'll be great And so there will be some kind of live extravaganza as we delay the start of episode 1445 and again Thank you producers this is how we work together This is how production works I got a big karma jobs karma actually for anybody who needs it Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! Yes!

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Jeremy Slate and Brian Skelton

Jeremy Slate and Brian Skelton are officially knighted as Sir Jeremy Slate and Sir Brian Skelton. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, granting them access to the "No Agenda Round Table" and its associated perks. The new knights are instructed to visit the show's website to claim their signet rings and certificates of authenticity.

jeremy slate· brian skelton· knighthood· signet ring· value for value

2:43:06 Harmless. And a reminder that you can contribute to the show information and instructions can be found here at Dvorak dot org slash N A. It's your birthday, it's my day on Noah's channel. Nice list today we have Lisa Lynch who says says happy birthday to three people. Her father would have been 88 on April 19th, her husband turned 62 on the 19th and she herself turned 60 on the 19th! Does it get any crazier? Congratulations to you. Jessie Lyon happy birthday to her twin brother Chris and Brennan... maybe it's twin brothers

2:43:44 April 21st as their birthday today. Drew Watkins 29 today, Brian Torres happy birthday to his son Nico who turns 15 and has the producer credit today Chris Reese's gorgeous wife Margie April 22nd so that's tomorrow Morgan Medlock will be 48 on the 23rd Katie happy birthday to her son Ezekiel His birthday is in 28 Viscount Dirty Dick Bangs' son Colton Reed Bangs turning 3 love the goat scream Fabrice Chumi celebrates and Sir Patrick Coble says happy birthday to his wife Dame Sarah. Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Come gather round douchebag, producer and slave As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave And some of them knights Some of them dames

2:44:38 We have a title change currently from Sir Jacob, Guardian of the Limburg Coast. He no longer I believe is in the armed forces nor does he live on the Limburg coast so we requested a title change which would be happy to do for him. He is now circumcised guardian, circumcised guardian of The Fat Point Whoa Put that on your business card he has it He sent us videos of his if it's his house or its apartment, or maybe it's just his man cave That dude has a lot of no agenda paraphernalia all over the place and it's good. It's nice stuff. That's really nice stuff Congratulations that title change we have two nights to handle today So here's my half of the two blades we need well Here's one for me

2:45:31 No, that's your shiny one. Up on the podium please Jeremy Slate and Brian Skelton both of you have reached that pinnacle That's right, you're up here on the podium and you've now become knights of the Noah Jenna Round Table. I am very proud to bring you here and pronounce the KD as Sir Jeremy Slate... ...and Sir Brian with an i! Gentlemen for you we've got Hookers & Blow, Red Boys & Chardonnay, Eagle Rare Bourbon On The Rocks, Circle K McRibs, Cookies & Vodka, Warm Beer & Cold Women, Taquitos & Tequila Polish potato vodka, diet soda and video games Fish pie and fellatio We've got harlots and howled all beer and blunts Brazilian hotties in Ciacasha. We got rumenous women and rosé bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbils but of course

2:46:16 It's the Mutton, it's the Mead. It's here enjoy and before you head off to South Carolina for your meetup Ryan go to NoahGeneration.com slash ring so that we can get that ring out to use as fast as possible. It is a Signet Ring so you can use the wax that accompanies in your package And to seal your correspondence and of course there's always a certificate of authenticity. Anyone can be a knight or a dame, some of you have taken 10 years and you still get there and we appreciate all of the help value for value Time Talent Treasure The No Agenda Show

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

Regional Meetup Reports, Fresno and North Carolina

The hosts review reports from recent meetups, including the "Resist We Much" gathering in Fresno, California. They announce a schedule of upcoming events in Youngsville, North Carolina; Long Beach, California; and Albuquerque, New Mexico. Listeners are encouraged to visit the meetup website to find or start local chapters.

fresno· youngsville· charlotte· albuquerque· longview

2:46:59 Lots of meetups taking place not a lot of reports today, but that's okay. We have the resist we much Meetup, which was I believe in Fresno and here's their quick report. This is Sir Robertson of Two Sticks here at the Barrel House Brew Pub in Fresno for the Resist We Much No Agenda meet up Number one of the douchebags Chris in the morning Laura and my favorite is Jobs jobs jobs from President Trump It's Dorothy and let's say I like everything Resist we much

2:47:37 Thank you very much meetups on the calendar for today show day We've got Youngsville Meetup number two at six o'clock at Bud's Tavern, Youngsville North Carolina or Charlotte's Thursday third Thursday At seven o'clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina. This is what is this competing? Once youngsville and Charlotte interesting how far those two from each other you maybe these guys should consolidate if appropriate I think they're far away. Tomorrow is Flight of the No Agenda number 27, 533 at Steelcraft Long Beach that's in California Leo Bravo taking flight with you on Saturday the tiny amygdala of Anchorage unite at 430 Alaskan time bear paw bar and grill

2:48:22 The local 512 Circus on the road is in Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's our very own Baron Scott he'll be at Rio Bravo Brewing Company in Albuquerque, New Mexico and Baron Scott will be organizing it also on Saturday sane and free in Sioux Falls 2 o'clock Central Granite City And the Three Mile Island evac zone 333 p.m. crossed water in Lewisbury Pennsylvania and finally on show day the next one on Sunday the Northeast Texas Piney Woods meetup Edition 2, part two 433 at Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview Texas. A long list all the way through now we have meetups into June and July

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

ISO Selection, Adam Curry and Horowitz Feud

The hosts select "In Search Of" (ISO) audio clips for future use, focusing on dramatic or humorous soundbites from the episode. They also address a perceived "fake feud" between Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak's co-host on "DH Unplugged," Andrew Horowitz. Curry jokingly claims Horowitz hung up on him during a recent interaction.

iso· horowitz· dh unplugged· podcast feud· audio clips

2:49:01 There's got to be something on there that is close enough to you and if there isn't it's very simple go to noagenda meetups.com See if you can find anything, If not You can start one yourself And It's always just like a pothead! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where me Triggered or held aflame Be where everybody feels the same It's like a pot Like a party! I got a couple things to do before we leave, but let's get our ISOs out of the way. Did you bring any ISOs? I only have the one and it's probably not... It's okay but You probably have better. Okay, I see it here. Here we go. Deprives me your dignity

2:49:52 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think I have better ones let me see...I have Where's my ISOs? This one this is a scam No, I don't like that one. That's banning This one smoke standby three cruise missile caliber no This one is interesting if you have nothing better to do definitely listen to that show okay the The feud continues this one might be the one Yeah, what was that last one give it this one this this one screen if you have nothing better to do definitely listen to that show now here's my last one hold on I Can't understand a word. He said it's aha let's go baby oh No, that's too bad. I kind of liked that one But I would say this we did the last day at some point Horowitz says thank you forever so much for for you know he's accusing me

2:50:54 of creating this fake feud between the two of you. Fake feud? And I said... I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I And he hung up on me! He just left. I hate to see you... What happened? I said, I thought you were-I was your only friend and then you hung up on me No i didn't it was the clean feed hung up on you Oh okay

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

Disney Reedy Creek District, Florida Special Status Repeal

Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida legislature are moving to terminate the Reedy Creek Improvement District, a special self-governing status held by Disney since 1967. State Representative Spencer Roach explains that the move aims to end Disney's "anti-free market" advantages. The hosts argue that Disney's political meddling in the "Parental Rights in Education" bill triggered this regulatory retaliation.

ron desantis· disney· reedy creek· florida legislature· special districts

2:51:48 I said... I forgot what i said. It doesn't matter, it was fun. I'm trying to stop this from continuing because I don't like to see people upset like this Well its going to take a little bit more work You started this so you're gonna have to finish- I did not! Its totally- Yes you did No he's the one who brought it up Nah im not sure Remember its DH unplugged not HD unplugged So your clearly leading the pack Its ok John Well, the reason you use DH is just for formal reasons. HD makes it sound like high definition when talking about audio or something so that's a really big issue I would like to finish with just a few clips about the Disney situation in Florida I have an introductory clip of Santos DeSantos actually... DeSantis not DeSantos

2:52:49 Do you think I'll ever get it right? No, no probably not. I haven't spelled it right on here. DeSantis on district Yeah this is him talking Which he does a lot. I think as many of you know, the Florida legislature is meeting this week to consider the congressional reapportionment plan for Florida for the next 10 years and that is what they've been called upon to do but I am announcing today that we are expanding the call of what they are going to be considering this week and so yes, they will be considering the congressional map But they also will be considering termination of all special districts that were enacted in Florida prior to 1968. And that includes the Reedy Creek Improvement District

2:53:41 I want to thank Speaker Sprowls and Senator Simpson for not only working obviously for the reapportionment but for stepping up and making sure that we make the sunset or determination on those special districts happen which i think is very important. So, we touched on this uh...on the last episode and i have a nice clip here from Florida State Representative Spencer what's this guy's name? What is this guy's name? He's Spencer Roach and he explains this as you just heard the governor of Florida talking about since 1968 there were some special rules for Disney. And this is a good explanation well Disney has and has had for almost 60 years, a very special relationship with Florida they have what I refer to as Florida 68th County it's about 43 square miles it's called the Reedy Creek Improvement District

2:54:34 And they essentially are their – they are their own government. They're exempt from all county regulation and most state regulations. Legally, under the law, Disney could build a nuclear power plant there and we couldn't do a darn thing about it. And look my objection to this – I know it seems retaliatory but I would describe it more as opportunistic. Disney is weakened politically. We should go after this. But my principal objection to this as a conservative free marketeer, it's anti-free market. I mean you have all these other theme parks in Florida – you have Universal Studios, SeaWorld, Legoland, Busch Gardens and here in the district that I represent you have a theme park. It's the largest single site employer in my district. It's called The Shell Factory. They'd love to have their own government there but they don't have that. Why should Disney get this special privilege and no one else should have that? I think it's just an aberration of the free market.

2:55:19 And let me tell you what else Disney's doing. So they're expanding out of their traditional role of sort of theme park amusement, they're now building a $400 million movie studio there, they're building a fourth Disney hotel, they're building a 300 million dollar office space and they don't have to apply with any other regulatory burdens that any other realtor or business developer builder would have to comply too. They have an enormous advantage over the rest of the market it's unfair its anti-free market its anti economic liberty it's wrong Why now? Why not decades ago?! Well, here's the thing. This is dis- To me, if I was a Disney shareholder. I would immediately ask for the resignation of the CEO because he kicked this crap off didn't he? He was really yes, he kicked it off has been going on smoothies. Disney was essentially in Orlando area, a city state that could do whatever it wanted and they could do all kinds of cool things and we would be It was a good deal for the company's almost like it's almost like an Indian Native American reservation pretty much

2:56:20 And because they decided to start meddling in Florida politics with their woke ideas, all they did was draw attention to themselves and somebody on the Republican side said look What's, whoa wait a minute why don't we reconsider what this whole situation with Disney is and then they took a look because you can download the Reedy Creek development documents and it is really interesting. It's something I was going to send to you because I know you'd like to read it but... But you forgot? No I was last night so you don't need that aggravation

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Jen Psaki, Parental Rights Bill Emotional Reaction

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki is featured in a clip expressing emotional distress over Florida's "Parental Rights in Education" law. The hosts criticize her characterization of the bill as "cruel" and "harsh," arguing that she is misrepresenting the legislation for political purposes. They suggest Psaki is "cracking" under the pressure of her role.

jen psaki· florida· parental rights· don't say gay· white house

2:57:00 But the point is that they drew attention to themselves by meddling when they shouldn't have been meddling, they should just shut up. No no it's all stakeholders now you have stakeholder stakeholder we have to meddle because it's their job to meddle with something we don't like or meddling so we want kids and kindergartners to be taught about gender okay if I was a shareholder I would demand the head of the CEO Disney he has behind the whole thing Get rid of him. Yeah, this went pretty far so besides the So-called don't say gay bill actually I have a and this is an NBC News report listen to so that there are few people in the Florida State Legislature who went against this of course because they are all in on...I don't know

2:57:50 Disney having that kind of power, but when and I think these are Democrats when they lose control They always go back to the same stuff Tonight, Florida's new fight against the house that Mickey built. Florida Senate approving legislation to eliminate Disney self-governing authority and tax breaks 23 days 16 days Democrats unanimously opposed it Why are we putting our knee on the neck of the mouse? So they're taking a Black Lives Matter Knee on the neck and applying it to a cartoon character. Why are we putting our knee on the neck of Mickey Mouse? This is a sick individual who thinks this way, it's ridiculous It's nothing short of extortion. It's nothing short of extortion bullying

2:58:47 It's the latest chapter in a confrontation between Disney and Florida Republicans led by Governor Ron DeSantis who pushed for the legislation after Disney called for the repeal of Florida's parental rights and education law. What critics dubbed, The Don't Say Gay Law that bans classroom discussion on sexual orientation and gender identity for children in kindergarten through third grade This state is governed by the interests of the people of the State of Florida. It is not based on the demands of California corporate executives There it is he's pointing out that it should be the CEO who gets rousted what now you remember like two hours ago We were talking and I said

2:59:31 That woman that was bitching and moaning? These are the same Democrats that bitch and moan about special tax credits, which is really oil depletion allowances for the oil companies. But this huge tax break for Disney's okay! Anyway go on sorry I think i mentioned a couple hours ago that, I believe that many of these people in politics and the body politic. That they really do believe they really believe in what they're doing and it's righteous as the right whether it's COVID whether it's Ukraine or whether it's this and Jen Psaki spokes whole for the Biden administration. I think this was a podcast? And so

3:00:15 It's a parental rights bill with the parents, the voters who would presume as parents said you know what we just don't want this stuff discussed from kindergarten up to third grade. That's it and that was immediately dubbed the Don't Say Gay Bill and it blew up and we've got and were abusing children all over the place to promote this and I think Jen Psaki really believes in it. This clip of her being super upset And getting everything wrong, because I've read the parental rights bill. There's really nothing in there that is crazy out of the ordinary but she takes it this way. This is a political wedge issue and an attempt to win a culture war and they're doing that in a way that is harsh and cruel uh...to community kids especially. I'm like gonna get emotional about this issues cause its just horrible

3:01:14 But, you know it's like kids who are bullied and this is like all these leaders are taking steps to hurt them and hurt their lives and hurt their families. And you look at some of these laws in these states and it is going after parents who are in loving relationships who have kids. It's completely outrageous! Sorry I am... This is an issue that makes me completely crazy but it is an issue that is a political wedge issue. It is not a reflection of where the country is She's not acting man. She believes this that's unbelievable she's really upset and she Goes after parents in loving relationships is he referring to teachers who? I don't understand what she's doing, but it was sad yeah I'm not gonna. I don't do this lightly That's clip of the day at the very end ladies and gentlemen comes in with a winner clip

3:02:14 There you go something seriously wrong with her. I think I think she She has issues I Think she's on the edge. She wants to get out. She's cracking. She wants to be it. You can't even do the MSNBC gig I think that got screwed up. She knows she can't do that now should be so excoriated So all your own energy msnbc people turned on her in me of course this had to hurt her mm-hmm Yeah, she's hurt. She's hurt and she said it makes me crazy there you go Alright, end of show mixes Amdoucheous and Jack O'Fire. Two very depressing ones so enjoy that! ColdassinableKirby up next on noagendastream.com with a rare encounter this is episode 94 I don't think it's live maybe it is? I don't know but if you're at the troll room trollroom.io hang around listen for these cats

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

Outro, Joe Biden Audio Montage

The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners of the delayed Sunday show. The episode concludes with a produced audio montage featuring clips of Joe Biden making controversial remarks about women and children, interspersed with his warnings about the onset of World War III.

joe biden· world war iii· texas hill country· silicon valley· sign-off

3:03:14 Yeah, that's all I got really. I look forward to Sunday hopefully we'll be in New York doing the show two hours later tell everybody what we're up too and i will have travel reports and reports from the cemetery I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody! I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain No New York for me, I'm John C. Dvorak You're lucky We return on Sunday we'll see how well we do Please remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA Until then enjoy your week The rest of it Adios mofos and such... I promise you

3:04:09 The president has a big stick. I promise you. Mom, I want to know what you're drinking. God, will you look at your sister? The president has a big stick. I promise you He was talking to me while he was rubbing my nose with his My dad used to say, You got one job. I have a beautiful sister like you guys and I swear to god, he used to say, You have one job Keep the guy's breathing, sister I was up against the wall and I remember His hands underneath my blouse And underneath my skirt

3:05:04 And his fingers penetrating me as he was trying to kiss me and I was pulling away. Reid tells us that at the time she complained to the Senate personnel office that Biden had quote, made her feel uncomfortable. The president has a big stick. I promise you do I consider it inappropriate? To smell someone's hair can get so close that I smell their hair. Yes! The president has a big stick. I promise you. Coombs insisted his daughter was not disturbed by this televised nuzzle from former Vice President Joe Biden in 2015. The president has that big stick, I promise you. Hey Bridgette how old are you? 16. 16 huh? Hope he got big dogs around the house. He does.

3:06:16 The president has a big stick. I promise you. Why don't you kiss me? Thank you. We're already in World War III. We are already in World War 3. We are already in conflict and so far away from peace.

3:07:20 We're already in war country. We are already in conflict and we stand so far behind Ukraine. We are the brink of dramatic change where we're about to, and I'll say this boldly.

3:08:17 We're already in World War III.