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00:00 They're giving away crack pipes. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, February 10th, 2022. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1424. This is no agenda. Straight out of quarantine and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we've got a heat spell probably hit 80. I'm John C. Dvorak. That's nuts man, we just think about it. You're gonna hit 80 and we're at 31. Yeah well, it's kind of global warming. Yes indeed. Here. I typically wouldn't mention this, never really have done in the 15 years we've been doing the show but it's relevant today. I caught the coof. Yeah.

00:57 You better mask up, John. I'm breathing on you right now. You caught the couv. I did. It's very odd. Yeah. This was unexpected. We were talking about over dinner last night. I was eating dinner with Jay and she is talking and Mimi was on the phone and we're discussing the fact that when Jay caught it this last time, she spent most of her time like, you know, in close proximity to me and it was still kind of odd that I never got it. I may have had it as a, what do you call it? A flu. Just as a flu. No, I didn't. It would be noticeable. Asymptomatic. Let me just tell you my experience real quick. Yes, we're listening. Monday night, so Tuesday morning, like at 3 I wake up, I'm sweating, I have a

01:51 My back hurts, I'm like, eh, whatever. Ow! Yeah, then I got up Tuesday morning and now I'm like, I don't feel good, and I'm running a fever. I'm like, really? Now I have this, no problem with taste or smell, throat not itchy, but totally flu feelings. Oh, this is so obvious. I had hair pain. Have you ever had hair pain? Where the like if you touch I've never even heard of hairpin where you touch your scalp now in your case I can see it happening yeah you touch your scalp and every follicle hurts oh maybe that's just me so what do you do in that case right away BAM pop that blister pack Zverdo kit to the rescue

02:36 So I spent Tuesday kind of lethargic. Yesterday, I even slept during the day. I watched the entire third series of Lost in Space. Totally can recommend. Hey man, anyone who grew up watching Lost in Space will appreciate this. What you should watch I grew up watching the original lost in space, but I But I still I don't know if I ever really liked it cuz that guy who played the evil character. Yeah, dr. Smith There was yeah, there was something about it was one of those things where he's constantly screaming at the TV Can't you see that this guy's a bad guy? He was also extremely gayish you

03:22 So that's played by Parker Posey. She's really good. So a female Dr. Smith. Anyway. She's played evil characters in movies before. She's good. So I keep, you know, I got a fever. Just a low-grade fever like a hundred, hundred point five, a hundred and one, kind of varying back and forth. I really only took Advil once, like I think Tuesday morning since then, not really. I was like, I'll let my body fight it. And I woke up and of course I had more night sweats. And last night I woke up at four, an hour before I get up anyway, drenched and shivering. So really today no fever. I got aches, but not horrible. Stomach's a little wishy-washy and the hair pain is gone. I think the Xeverto kit probably

04:13 averted all disaster. Well, you may have been on your way to averting disaster with or without the kit. You don't know. But it was fun to do. I'm like, all right, emergency. Pop it open. Point of discussion. The ivermectin pills in the blister pack have a very pleasant taste. Oh, well, no one's reported on this. I know! They're pink, you know. What, do you chew your pills before you eat them? No, no! I put it in my mouth and immediately it started to taste. Huh. Yeah. Well, let's put it this way. At least you won't have worms. Exactly.

04:58 I'm sorry that you had to have that episode. Yeah, well, me too, but on the other hand, you know, natural immunity would be nice. That's cool to have. Did you take a test? Today I get a couple tests in and I'll know for sure. Yeah, you may have just had a random coof. Yeah, but I don't put much faith in the tests at all. It's nice to have the test on record because then you can make one of the answers. Yes, that's my point. That's why I have six tests coming. I'm just going to keep trying until I get one so that I have the record. Yeah, of course. That's exactly what I want. And Tina, you know, she's like, all right, I'm not going to kiss you, but

05:44 She's not... and I said, you want me to quarantine? She said, no. No. So, um... So she coasted through it. She hasn't had it. And I think we went out to dinner and sat at the bar of Hill & Vine Monday night. Well, one of the two of you are leading a dissolute life the way I see it. Dissolute? Yeah, that's what I always say. How come you haven't gotten it? Because I don't lead a dissolute life. That would be me. She's at work amongst the public four times a week. Yeah. And she's been in the public since, you know, after the original lockdown. Yeah, but it's the dissolute life that's the problem. That's me. The drugs, the drinking, the carousing, the floating around. That's me. Yeah, that's what I said. Okay, that makes total sense.

06:32 Anyway, so if anything else happens I'll report. I am weary though, fatigued and weary. Long COVID. Oh please, don't get me started with any of that. Everyone I hear is like, oh man, it took me two weeks before I felt better. I'm like, ugh. Well some people months. Because you know we got a Nashville meetup coming up on the 14th. So I'm... Oh yeah, that's right. I'm gonna go. You'll be fine by then. You're already fine seems to me. You sound good. John. But I won't bring that part of it up. John. The guy was on his deathbed. It still sounds good. But in general, that's why I said typically I don't say I feel like crap. We just do the show. So I know and I don't think I've ever missed a broadcast in 40 years. So anywho, there's a lot to talk about today because it's over. They've capitulated. The retreat has been blown, I guess.

07:35 Well, of course, the Canadians, as we've talked about in this show occasion, at least my take on history is that the big difference between the Americans and the Canadians is that When we get into a jam we start shooting. Yes, without asking. And revolting. And when the Canadians get into a jam they start complaining. Yes. And they do it so well that it eventually wears down the enemy. I have a one minute report which sums up I think where we are quite nicely. The state of emergency north of our border is in Ottawa. It's from ABC. with protests over COVID restrictions, the bridge from Detroit into Canada is still closed in one direction as some provinces set to scale back COVID rules. Trevor Holt is there in Ottawa. Good morning, Trevor.

08:20 Good morning George. So it's about 10 degrees Fahrenheit right now in Ottawa and if anything these protesters have simply further settled in. They've brought in a whole lot more signs of support here. We've seen people repeatedly picking up their food from food stands. They brought in porta potties too and in fact we've seen some people drying their hand-washed clothes on a makeshift clothesline between these vehicles. Not to mention all of those spin-off demonstrations that are happening elsewhere. The Ambassador Bridge still shut down from Detroit heading into Canada. That is a major lifeline for trade. We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars a day and these demonstrators say they are ready to be out here until all of Canada's COVID-19 mandates and restrictions are lifted. In fact, some provinces are walking back some of their policies. Alberta is now lifting their vaccine passport mandate. Saskatchewan is going to be doing the same thing on Monday and they're also looking at lifting their indoor mask mandate too. But Canadian officials insist they're not

09:09 making these changes because of the demonstrations. They say they're able to do it because the vaccines are working and cases are going in the right direction and these policies have served their purpose. There it is! We did it everybody! You can thank us later! The vaccines are working! You're free to go! Or not yet, they will be. So bogative. Hey, did I lose you already? Dude, what up with that, huh? Hello? Yeah. You were gone, you were silent. I had to reboot the, um,

09:48 thing a clear feed did you hear the clip yeah okay respond couple of things one they kind of soft pedaled it yeah our news coverage of this this is a big deal without that and of course and the American news coverage soft pedals it because we don't want to give anyone any ideas well it's it's twofold I think the right now Everyone is starting to lift mandates, you know, we have a, we'll stay with the truckers for a moment, but I think that this is going to be used now in Canada as well. But, you know, they really have to remove everything and all things and they continue both Canadian and US media just continues

10:35 to spread the memes, the one that you actually educated everybody on with the so-called freedom convoy. Yeah, that wasn't an isolated incident. Yeah, I think you can, but you shouldn't use any of it.

11:16 Because they're caught if you call it the freedom convoy and you're in it. Why are you calling so called? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense Self-described is yeah, you're right. Unfortunately, you can get away with that But you actually said that using this is a very bullcrap Journalistic tactic or technique or trick trace a propaganda trick. There you go. Not even John well journalism It's propaganda. That's all that's going on right now. This is latest stuff. I'm looking at CNN is like Now they're scrambling because Malone's on his way. Well, listen to this about, you know, because we are the analog between January 6 and what's happening in Ottawa is so obvious that the news media cannot leave it alone, probably on purpose, but holy crap, listen to this supercut. Sedition, insurrection, a threat to democracy.

12:10 Right off the bat. Are you kidding me? They're using all the same terms. Sedition, insurrection, a threat to democracy. This city is under siege. They are now calling it an occupation. Alarming situation there in Ottawa. The police chief is calling it a nationwide insurrection driven by madness. This is kind of our insurrection by air horn moment. I think it's part of the globalization of Trumpism. Canadians know where I stand. There hasn't been as much violence as some had perhaps projected. but that does not necessarily mean that it has been peaceful. Reports of severe vandalism and criminal behavior. Streets are clogged. The honking is incessant and deafening. This pandemic has

12:49 for all Canadians. Residents that I have spoken to who say they feel terrorized, intimidated. Residents say they feel like hostages. Residents in that area say that they are being held hostage, that this freedom has essentially, this freedom convoy as they call it, has essentially imposed a lockdown on them. Some protesters harassed a soup kitchen. These anti-vaxxers actually took food from the mouths of the homeless. Hungry, yeah. Because they were, they're so put upon. There have not been any violent outbursts however horns have been honking for 12 to 21 hours a night. small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa or who are holding unacceptable views that they're expressing. Many of them are holding Confederate flags. We've seen swastikas, we've seen the Confederate flag, we've seen flags with Justin Trudeau our Prime Minister in a noose. Lots of Donald Trump

13:47 flags as well people chanting let's go Brandon. It's actually one of the rare times in history you're going to see swastikas and yellow stars at the same protest. A few people shouting and waving swastikas does not define who Canadians are. Ottawa is being besieged by a group of anti-do-anything-about-covid truckers called the Freedom Convoy. A so-called Freedom Convoy. A so-called Freedom Convoy of truckers. It's a Called yes, it is. We've heard it called a nationwide insurrection a threat to democracy an insurrection sedition This is a moment for responsible leaders to think carefully about where they stand and who they stand with no kidding So there it is the sedition occupation insurrection Yeah, it's another form of purge. This media is out of control

14:43 And at Lawrence O'Donnell you could hear him in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a creep. Listen, you know, we've been looking at the 1919 flu pandemic and, you know, we have a timeline. Things are still a little bit early what's happening now, so in order to hit the April, I think it'll go slow. But there was, there's an analog to this Ottawa protest as well. The 1919 Winnipeg general strike. You know, I'm glad you keep coming up with little discoveries that keep backing up this thesis. Isn't it beautiful? That's a beauty. I had really did not know this. But check it out. So this was the Winnipeg General Strike, the largest and most influential strike in Canadian history. Let's see. Angry at this... and then you had, of course, you had strike breakers.

15:42 Angry at the strike breakers. That's interesting the strike break. This is interesting because to the way I see it. Mm-hmm today's strike breakers is the media Well, then they better be careful because angry at the strike breakers hired to operate the transit system in place of the striking employees, several people in the crowd began rocking this is a trolley car from side to side, unable to tip it over entirely. They set it on fire! And then soon military personnel from Fort Osborne barracks arrived along with machine gun units who marched into the melee.

16:20 At the end, two people... Now that's, that's a match. That's unusual for the Canadians. That day became known as Bloody Saturday. Two people died, 30 to 35 to 40... Let's do it on the weekend, eh? Yeah, right. Also, there was, it was a convoy that came towards Winnipeg, Ottawa, and most of the people didn't even make it. They just broke down on the way. Yeah, those are the days. Yeah, but hey, there are photos of this. You know what they had? They all had cool hats. Everybody wore a hat back in the day, man. Yes, they did. Why was that? There was a period where everyone wore a straw hat. In America or everywhere? Everywhere. Really? So that was just a worldwide fashion trend, huh?

17:14 Yeah, I was in the... I think it came after the first hat. They're wearing hats all along and then there's this very short trend. I don't know how long it lasted. Somebody might know, but you could find pictures of Times Square when it's like some big event and everyone's crowded in there and it's like endless straw hats. It's weird. This police chief in Ottawa is interesting. His name is Peter Sloly. S-L-O-L-Y. And someone tipped me off, one of our producers actually, tipped me off to this guy. Check this guy out. He's got quite the resume. Apparently he left in 2016 and came back and people weren't even that much of a fan of him. But if I just look at his Wikipedia page, he had FBI training, let's see, educated, let's see, Bachelor of Arts Sociology, where is it here?

18:20 criminal justice certificate from University of Virginia, incident command system certification from Justice Institute of British Columbia, and graduate of the FBI National Academy. A real hard-ass and he has connections. He hired a crisis management firm right away. Let me see if I could find the name of this thing. Navigator. Ever heard of them? Navigators? Navigator? An elite and expensive crisis management firm.

18:56 And I think that this guy is quite dangerous to the Canadian people as he tells everybody what's going to happen no matter what happens with this protest. When everybody's gone it's not going to be over. Again, shades of January 6th. We have increased ability to identify and target protesters and supporters of protesters who are funding and enabling unlawful and harmful activity by the protesters themselves. Investigative evidence gathering teams are collecting financial, digital, vehicle registration, driver identification, insurance status, and other related evidence that will be used in prosecutions. Believe me, geo-fencing, everyone's phone has been tracked. Well this is good, this is good because this

19:53 will be, this guy's gonna have to butt heads with it if they finally give in completely, which they sounds like they're in the process of doing. He's gonna butt heads with these guys because they can't do this. You can't say, okay, okay, you guys win, we're gonna end all this and then start going after people. in a vindictive way like that. This guy's bad news it sounds like. Also we got reports back to 1919 that there's all kinds of machine guns and assault rifles going into buildings. Back to 1919? Yeah, where they had machine guns and they had bloody Saturdays. Oh, back in the day. Yeah, back in the day. So that's being reported as now they're everywhere. And you're right.

20:40 The White House certainly desperately trying to downplay what's going on here, which includes blocking the bridge to Detroit. And what's the other one? We have another border that's been blocked. There's one down in Montana, I think, that's been blocked completely. But that bridge is that 25% of all import exports goes over that Windsor Bridge. Thanks, Jeff. Some truckers in Canada last night shut down the Ambassador Bridge, which carries about a quarter of US Canada. Wow. Were you there? Did you hear all this ahead of time? I just know this. What's the administration's response to this action and what steps are being taken to ensure the free flow of goods and also any preventative steps being taken to address a possible blockade on the Michigan side of

21:29 that bridge? Well, let me first start by saying I know there's been some suggestion, not by reporters necessarily at all, but that this congestion is related to the vaccine requirements. Congestion! It's just congestion. Not by reporters necessarily at all, but that this congestion is related to the vaccine requirements. It's not. I mean, I'm saying I'm going to get to the protests, but the protests going on across Canada, which have spread to a bridge are leading to sporadic congestion and blockages. I would just to go back to my... Congestion and blockages. What, do they have a sniffle?

22:06 My point I was trying to make is that across what we've seen with these requirements is across a range of industries, vaccination requirements have been implemented with no disruptions, have helped increase vaccinations. These requirements help protect more people from COVID and there's been zero indication across these industries that they would lead to disruptions, including on this policy. We of course support, as you know, the right to freedom of speech and protest, but we If it's BLM. Well, due to some of these congestion due to process, it's just clear that these disruptions have broadened in scope beyond the vaccine requirement implementation. We beyond that, we are, of course, in touch with our Canadian counterparts, but I don't have any updates in terms of specific steps. I love that. They should have asked her where her two does hang. She's in that. But I have an offbeat clip. You probably have it.

22:57 But on some odd podcast, Justin Trudeau's stepbrother. Oh, I don't have this. I was... I got COVID, man. This is about... Okay, it's about COVID, but it's not about COVID. No, I'm saying I have COVID. I didn't see everything I normally do. Oh, you had COVID. No, no, no. This clip is about Trudeau, but then you might have missed it. Yes. So this guy who's... No one's ever heard of him. at least until now. His name is Kyle Kemper. And that's his what? His name is Kyle Kemper. No, no, how is he related to just his brother? His mom, Fido's mother, the one who had sex with Fidel. Castro. And Mick Jagger, apparently, originally. I think Mick Jagger said so.

23:54 But there was a... she got... Pierre Trudeau divorced her, she got married to some other guy, then she had some kids with that other guy and this is one of them. So they're... related that way and say mom. And I guess they'd ever, I don't know. But I just thought this was a little off the wall, it's a sub clip of a longer clip where he's yacking away on a Zoom call or something, it's where the background just kept changing from downtown, some skating rink to some flag and it's just like horrible to watch. But this is kind of interesting, but it's nothing that we've already not discussed. Justin is the leader of the Liberal Party and

24:34 Everything that's coming out of his right now, out of his mouth right now is written. All of his tweets are being produced by a team. All of his statements, he is the face and like, you know, the lead spokesperson for the Canadian government, but the policy and the initiatives that are driving it and that are driving his Like, you know, this narrative that he continues to push, which in my opinion is decidedly anti-Canadian and anti-freedom, is like coming down from, you know, the higher ups, from, you know, groups like the World Economic Forum, like the Council on Foreign Relations, like Bilderberg, et cetera.

25:23 Not surprising, it's like, duh, of course. You had some clips recently that just said he's a stooge, he doesn't have any brains. Yeah, he's a relationship manager. Yes, exactly, yeah. That's what he does. It's a job. Yeah, that's okay. But that's interesting that he put it out there, it was on the podcast though, it wasn't anywhere. Yeah, but it's getting a lot of play. It's like Barack Obama's brother. Remember that? I'm grinding away thinking Barack Obama's all that. Yeah, his brother's fantastic. He's like, you know, Barack's like, his name is Barry. It's all kinds of stuff.

26:03 Well, yeah, that brother must have been a thorn in his side. Maybe still is. But nobody, the media doesn't, yeah, they don't, you know, so what? Ignore it. No, they were told to ignore it. We've got marching orders. Let's just go ahead with what we're doing. Well, I think we're all pretty convinced now that the media is not working for any of our interests, which is why we have this little podcast. The real turning point came from the main messenger. for the United States, unless you have more on Canada. I don't think so. I don't have anything else. She was there at the Boston bombing. She's been with us throughout the pandemic and she's here. She's been thrown out to change the narrative. Dr. Lena Wen. Do you agree with the move?

26:52 I do. There was a and is a time and place for pandemic restrictions, but when they were put in, it was always with the understanding that they would be removed as soon as we can. And in this case, circumstances have changed. Case counts are declining. Also, the science has changed. We know that vaccines protect very well against Omicron, which is the dominant variant. everyone five and older have widespread access to vaccines. And we also know about one way masking the idea that even if other people around you are not wearing masks, if you wear a high quality mask, that also protects you the wearer too. We didn't know this previously. And so in this case, I'm not saying I don't think anyone really is saying that no one should ever wear masks.

27:35 but rather that the responsibility should shift from a government mandate imposed from the state or the local district of the school. Rather, it should shift to an individual responsibility by the family who can still decide that their child can wear a mask if needed. I'm glad you got this clip because I knew about the clip. It got by me, but yeah, this is part of the scheme. But this woman, she's so breathless. How can you, you know, Well, and you know what was in there was the science has changed. Oh yeah, science changes, you know. She just, she just changed her underwear. And the science, and the science has changed regarding masks. We now know, we now know that one way masking works. Yes, you can virtue signal without annoying everyone else by making them wear the mask. That's great.

28:28 But holy crap that's a turnaround. I think the general consensus is this was some polling for the midterm elections like okay we got to turn this around pretty quick and this whole thing is failing. We're not rolling anything out in time, the vaccines are duds, the QR, we never came up with a QR platform for the passport, that's falling apart, the UK pulled out, you know this is over. This particular op is over I mean, they'll still linger on for years. Here's more of Lena Wendt. You know, take New Jersey. The case in New Jersey, for instance, their new case average is just over 4,000. Is that an acceptable number to do this or are they projecting out to March 7th at this point?

29:13 I don't think we should be looking at case counts at all at this point. After two years of it being full and center on the right-hand side of every single screen that case counts, case counts, case counts, science has changed. I don't think we should be looking at case counts at all at this point, especially when we're dealing with a milder variant and when so many people were exposed to Omicron and therefore have at least some level of protection either through vaccination or immunity. The key number that we should be looking at is hospitalizations. If our ICUs and hospitals in that particular region are not overwhelmed, if they're not overcapacitated, we can set a number, for example, 75% or 80%

29:56 full, then we should be able to relax all restrictions. And I actually believe that we should be starting to, with the first restriction removed, should actually be the restriction on children. Because while for adults, you could say, well, what's the harm of adults masking when they go into a grocery store? There actually is a harm that we should be discussing of children continuing to mask. That doesn't mean that masking doesn't have its place for children when there are very high rates of hospitalizations. If we get a new variant in the future that children are particularly susceptible to, we may want to bring masks back. But we should also be intellectually honest and say that masking has happened.

30:33 We have to be intellectually honest all of a sudden. I can't... There are some basketball players that can actually run down the court backwards as fast as they can forwards. This is the best backpedaling. This part of the clip, I didn't have this one. It's just astonishing the backpedaling. And it's unquestioned by John Berman, whatever his name is from CNN. Unquestioned. Okay, I got the memo you're here to announce it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, let me think I'm I'm I'm doing this interview and I'm hearing this for the first time And I'm not aghast and asking wait a minute. No, didn't you why so quick? What yeah, I you there's too many things you can ask but you can tell that this is a script because he's gonna be

31:25 Yeah, he's not flustered. No. That children are particularly susceptible to, we may want to bring masks back, but we should also be intellectually honest and say that masking has had a cost, especially for the youngest learners, people with English as a second language, children with learning disabilities, there has been a cost to them. So the risk benefit calculation has really changed. The risk benefit calculation? I thought the science changed. Well, it's changed too. Everything's changed. You're not keeping up. Reports are that the mental health damage could last a generation. Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah, and really mission accomplished if you think about it. If you wanted to kill enough people and make enough people sick longer term, we already have lower birth rates than we need. I think China had 50% of what they had two years ago. They're freaking out.

32:19 Yeah, well they got used to the one child thing and it was... Yeah, then guess what? But also, United States, Europe, everyone's fertility rate is dive-bombing. Yes, actually the sperm count's going way down. Which is exactly what Bill Gates wanted and he would do it through vaccines. I mean that could be from years of vaccinations. I don't know, I don't want to come across an anti-vaxxer. I've had vaccinations. But this thing is... You're on a list already. Oh, well, we'll get to the list. We'll get to the list. You know, we might as well, since we heard from him hyping this whole thing for two years, we might as well listen to Pfizer board member and former FDA commissioner.

33:12 Scott, doctor. I'm guessing he must have an agent at this point. Dr. Scott Gottlieb. And we're hearing from governors, there was a bipartisan group of them that met with President Biden just in the past few days saying they want guidelines to talk about moving from pandemic to an endemic stage here. And yet we're at 2,400 deaths a day. That doesn't feel like we're close to the end. No, it doesn't feel like that. We're not close to the end right now, depending on how you measure that. I think that this is going to be a long struggle. This is a virus that's going to be persistent. We're going to have to continue to take measures to protect vulnerable people. I think what governors are agitating for is some clear guideposts that define what the on and off ramp is for this. Guideposts? Guideposts? When do we start to roll back this mitigation? That way they can move them.

33:59 Guideposts that are movable, exactly. I think what governors are agitating for is some clear guideposts that define what the on and off ramp is for this. When do we start to roll back this mitigation? And we don't have a agreed upon set of nomenclature and metrics for measuring that. If you look at CDC right now, many state authorities and public health authorities talk about 10 cases per 100,000 people per day being a metric that rates you being in sort of a low level of spread. If you look at CDC's guidance, they talk about 10 cases per 100,000 people per week. So that's 1.44 cases a day. That's a level of spread, a sufficiently low level of spread that we've never been at at any point in this pandemic.

34:37 defines a low level of spread. Well remember his job is to sell vaccines so he just needs to talk a lot of gobbledygook until he gets to the pitch. He's just throwing numbers left and right and he's also backpedaling as fast as he can. Yeah. To kind of cover somebody's bases and he's making stuff up and he's talking about goal posts and guide posts whatever that is. Guide posts, governor's guide posts no less. Guide posts is a good name for a show. Low level of spread That would justify removing masks, for example, in schools. And so I think what governors are sensing is that we need to agree upon a set of metrics when we're going to start to roll back these mitigation steps. Give people a light at the end of the tunnel. What is that point when this stuff gets turned off? No, no. It's not that governors are looking for guideposts. They want to give everybody guideposts. They need to get everybody back in line and on the same timeline.

35:29 This guy's got so many cliches. That was a record-setting clip. Wait, we have more. Can mask mandates be lifted in most schools? Look, I think you're going to see governors start to do that. I think we're two weeks out. We've seen prevalence come down. Connecticut, their mask mandate expires on February 15th. I would expect that that's not going to be renewed and schools in the state of Connecticut will very quickly lift mask requirements for students. I think you're going to see the same thing in New York, New Jersey, other states where Omicron has come down, where vaccination rates are especially high. I think you're going to see states do that. And we're at a point where we can safely contemplate that. That doesn't mean that this isn't going to continue to spread, but when prevalence is low, you have a lot of people who've been infected who have some level of immunity for a period of time, and you have high vaccination rates, we can start to lean forward and take a little bit more risk.

36:19 At least make sure that students in schools have some semblance of normalcy for this spring term. A lot of kids haven't really known a normal school day for two years now, so we need to try to lean forward aggressively to try to restore that and reclaim it when we can. What do you think? This is a new one, lean forward. Will we see that pop up somewhere in some messaging? You said lean forward twice for some unknown. What does it mean? What does it mean? It's stupid. What does it mean? The only way I can see it being used, lean forward, is so that your head crosses the finish line before the others. But I don't really know if lean forward is a thing. Lean in is the Sheryl Sandberg thing. Yeah. Lean forward. I don't know. Is that, oh is that maybe progressive? Lean forward. I have no idea. All I know is this guy is off the rails when it comes to cliches and

37:15 bromides and the like and such. He's got to keep it moving as much as he can and no worries, no worries. Remember all that money that you could get if you had a vaccine consultancy? You get up to a million dollars in Texas. Ooh, don't you remember that? No, I don't. Yeah, well that program is still going. The Biden administration is allocating tens of millions of dollars to groups across the U.S. who are working to build confidence in COVID-19 vaccines. Here's NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffin. Secretary of Health and Human Services Javier Becerra says it's important for people to hear from trusted messengers about vaccines. Whether that trusted messenger is your school teacher or your pastor or your barber. He says this funding allows those trusted people to guide you on the very important decision to get vaccinated. For example, since they received their first... Stop. I just realized what I heard here.

38:18 Okay, again, this is money going to groups, undefined groups. Thanks for reporting on that, groups. And listen what they say about the groups. I'm gonna go back a little bit further. Whether that trusted messenger is your school teacher or your pastor or your barber. Pastor and barber, this is targeting black Americans. That's where the money's going to get black Americans, ADOS, particular to take the vaccine. When you say barbers and pastors. Cultural thing with barbers and barbers and pastors. Now this is code. Pastors another one. This is code. This funding allows those trusted people to guide you on the very important decision to get vaccinated. For example, since they received their first funds last June, Dr. Samova Soha of the Rise Coalition says groups have learned how to reach migrant farm workers through carefully timed radio spots.

39:14 She says the new round of funding will allow the coalition to build on what they've learned and get more people vaccinated. Holy crap, we are idiots! What an easy exit strategy. We could have easily written up a grant and said, look, we're going to convince crackpots to get vaccinated. It might not work, but I think we've learned a lot so far doing this program, so you should up the money. We're ready for another. We've had learning, so let's try it again and do some more. That was easy money, John. There's probably pl- p- p- p- You remember that guy Lesko? Now why does that ring a bell, Lesko? Yeah, it does. He's the guy who used to wear a suit, a tailored suit that had dollar signs all over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on infomercials. What was it, infomercial guy? Yeah, and he sold a book called, you know, it's like free money from the government or something like that. Holy crap! Now we're going back to the 80s with this. Whatever happened to that guy and whatever happened to that book? I think he died. I think he died.

40:15 Robert, I think it was Robert Lesko. Matt Lesko? Matt Lesko. Was it Matt Lesko? I think it was. Could be. Mark? Whatever the case, this was what it was all about. It's like, you know, some sharp operators and you heard things like the Rise Coalition, all these, you know, you could tell one of those groups. Yeah. Sharp operators that have a nose for government money. And it's just stealing from the taxpayers. Yeah, we could probably do that if we had a mind to. I used to love his show. I think you have to have a mentality for it. He's still alive. I used to love his show. He's still alive. He's 78. Show. He had a show. That was a show, man. Get free money from the government. He used a fish eye lens and he'd bring his head right into it. Boy, we need to bring that guy back. I'm sure there's some great YouTube.

41:11 Oh my goodness, he made so many different books and I, oh man, I'm glad you brought him up. That's funny. Court reversed its decision, let me see where is it, on Pfizer and the federal judge restructures the timeline for FDA to release FOIA of the Pfizer trial vaccine documents. and they've now backloaded the schedule so that only 20,000 pages will be released through April. How many pages were there? Like half a million or... Some, I know it was over 300,000. Or even, no, I think it was in the millions. It was probably the millions. Yeah, it was probably the millions. Yeah. And coincidentally, Pfizer has now added some language to their

42:16 to their financial earnings report for their, I guess this is for how they did in Q, it must have been Q4. People have gone through their filing and see Pfizer added new language, risks, so this is about their vaccine. I think the stock has gone down I think because of this. Risks associated with further information regarding the quality of preclinical clinical or safety data including by audit or inspection I'd say they yeah, they yeah, they tried to cover that pretty well. They're trying to cover their ass I got a couple of clips. I wanted to this is for the last show. I didn't get to use

43:06 This is the beginning of the end I think for some of these guys but they've gone after the guy who runs the Missouri Health Department and they're starting to go after these health guys. Who is they? The public. Oh good. We, you should say not they, we, we, we, we. I think this is the beginning of this kind of thing because I've noticed an NPR in other places they're trying to soft pedal the the good work that the health professionals have done and it's too bad that it didn't work out and it's too bad because they're good people and blah blah blah. And so here we go with this MO Health

43:47 Missouri's acting health director is out of a job. Another public health official facing backlash over COVID-19 prevention measures. Strong opposition came from conservatives. Sarah Kellogg of St. Louis Public Radio reports. It was in July that Republican Governor Mike Parson announced that Don Carroff would serve as the director of the Department of Health and Senior Services. Karof came out of retirement after serving as the assistant director of the Illinois Department of Public Health. He started the Missouri job in September. Karof said a clear solution for reducing Missouri's COVID rate was to increase the state's vaccination rate. But he was also against vaccine and mask mandates. It's a position Karof repeated during his hearings this past week to make his appointment permanent.

44:31 I've said it before, you know a lot of people in my position they try to vilify those that aren't vaccinated. I'm not going to do that. It's their choice. If they have the correct information and they decide not to get vaccinated, I respect that. Because Karoff began his job when the Missouri Senate was not in session, he was able to serve as director. but had to receive approval within 30 days after the Senate reconvened in January. But just hours before he sat down to answer senators questions, more than 100 residents gathered in the Missouri Capitol Rotunda to protest his nomination. They claimed he was not conservative enough. Many wore stickers with Karof's name with a no symbol in front. Others brought signs reading stop Karof mandates and stop communism, Missourians want medical freedom. So he but he sounds like he wasn't pro mandates. I think they soft peddled the story. That must have because they had mandates. Yeah, someone had a mandate. I don't know. Part two of this is

45:30 finishes it. John Karef is another example of a public health figure who has faced vitriol from both lawmakers and the public during the pandemic. Lawrence Gostin teaches global health law at Georgetown University. He says what happened in Missouri has been playing out all across the country. I've seen public health professionals picketed, threatened, their families threatened, and literally hounded out of office. And while we've got tens of thousands of people who should be in public health and aren't, more are leaving every day. Since the pandemic began, legislators in a number of states have limited the powers of health officials. Gostin says those actions have consequences that will last after the pandemic. The COVID pandemic should have made it public health empowered, more flexible, more nimble, more resources. And instead, it's been the opposite.

46:28 I hate to sound like a dick, but I'm all for them going after these people. Every single one of them needs to be on trial eventually, either for incompetence or downright evil. Most will be deemed incompetent, but that's okay. I mean, this whole class that controlled everybody, yeah. Yeah, I agree. They didn't do a good thing. They got full of themselves. They thought they were God. Well, it's not over they still may think that. Quick update on the you brought the clip of the Department of Defense with their DMed there the military version of the vaccine adverse event reporting system and which you know showed this incredible increase in all kinds of issues and as we know everyone got vaccinated pretty much in the military and now

47:29 And that came from a whistleblower. The Department of Defense didn't say, oh, look what we found. That came from a whistleblower. Yes. Now it appears that the Department of Defense is adding all kinds of numbers and data to the DMED for like previous years. Yes, they're phoning out the back numbers. Yeah, they're trying to make it look like it isn't such an incredible spike. Yeah, they're freaked out. That's crazy. Do you have a letter from the guy? No, I don't. No, I don't. Oh, we had a letter from a guy who just sent in, uh... I thought you were gonna read it. No, I mean, I have several articles about it. No, no, no, I don't even know if I saw... I have COVID, man. I didn't read everything. That's right, I keep forgetting because you just don't seem like the COVID type. By the way, thank you to the Clip Custodian who saved my ass with a nice helpful of clips today. Exactly what I was looking for as usual.

48:27 Are you looking for the letter? Yeah, I can get it. It's from Eric. It came into notes, no agenda. And Eric forwarded it to us both. Of course he didn't do it under his normal name. Well, fabulous. That's why it probably didn't show up in mine either, because I have him going to a special. I don't know why he does that. It makes no sense. Anyway, I'll look for it and we'll read it later. Yes, let's see. We have some numbers here, I think. Oh yeah, there you go. They've actually, they've made 2016, 2017,

49:10 Yeah, because everything goes against the five-year average. It's all about the five-year average. So they had to phony up, you know. But if you look at the chart, you see 2016 is higher than 2021, which is the big spike. 2017 is higher. 2018 is about the same. 2019 is like 30% higher than 2021. Okay, let's see. I got the note. John, thanks for covering D-Med on NOA Agenda. Can you please also cover how the clown world sellouts are trying to explain this away? If you cover this, I missed it. We're covering it now. Claiming a very selective computer glitch affected the data for the five years prior to 2021. It was a glitch?

50:01 And then he has a link to a stevekirsch at substack.com and people can go to stevekirsch.substack.com it's probably just the column at the top. And that's Steve K-I-R-S-C-H. I need a clip of someone saying that. Glitch. Glitch. He goes, number two, I'd like to point and I'm not sure this is, we'll just say he is a major in the army. I would like to point out that the attached Marine Corps response to representative Issa, he also has a list of this because Issa was bitched about this and he was making him, how does this work?

50:43 shows that there is no intention to grant religious exemptions. The only religious exemptions granted, stated here, are for three Marines who are on their way out anyway. The DoD will of course adhere to the narrative of how safe and effective the injections are while ignoring the reality of fully injected service members continuing to get COVID. Meanwhile, many of us who refuse to blindly follow this illogic have remained COVID free for the last two years. Please keep me anonymous. I use this email to show that I'm real. Many of us are standing firm against clown world, but there's not much we can do. Of course. And he's military? He's military. God bless you, man. If you don't have anything else, I have a small presentation to make on vaccines.

51:37 I'm all ears. So you want to answer your phone first? I mean, it's just a podcast. No, I was just, see, now if you didn't say anything I would have snuck over there. I want you completely focused on the clips. I don't want, I don't want the, just answer it. Let's see who it is. It's got to be some douche. Let's check it out. Hold on a second. I'll turn off the noise gate so we can follow along with the antics of John C. Dvorak and the scam caller. If my web browser didn't freeze on me for some reason. This is great. Here we go. Oh, hello? Hello? You hung up? Yeah. Ah, lame-o. Lame-ass. Yeah, pretty soon they'll just be like, hey man, if you call this guy this number, you get on the new Agenda show. Well, I usually take the phone off the hook, but...

52:33 I'm not that popular, so... Alright, I'm all ears now. Your attention is drawn to your presentation. Yes. We've had the... How many clips is this? Depends. We've had the bat theory, which was launched immediately. We had the lab theory. We had versions of bioweapon and stuff like that. I like the bioweapon. Well, then you'll probably like these clips. Ron Unz. You know him? No. He is, I think he's like a Silicon Valley guy or he was early days. He has some kind of software firm accounting software but he also ran in 94 in the California gubernatorial election and for US Senator in 2016. When you see the guys, he's creepy looking, you know, kind of Jamie Raskin-esque.

53:34 In a way? That's pretty, yeah. Now that explains it, right? But except he's, I guess, a registered Republican and the ADL hates him, the Southern Poverty Law Center hates him, but he comes across as a really sane guy and he had this presentation on a podcast, of course, which introduces the third theory outside of the bat versus the lab and it's bioweapon but not the way you think it might be. And the third possibility is that it was a deliberate bio-warfare attack. In other words, the virus was biologically engineered to be moderately lethal but extremely, extremely contagious.

54:21 And so in effect it was designed to be an anti-economy biowar by weapon, not an anti-personnel bioweapon in that with the fatality rate of about 0.5 to 1%, obviously it wouldn't wipe out a population, but it would kill a sufficiently large fraction of the population and it was so extremely contagious that countries that were infected with it would have to take drastic measures that would disrupt their economy to control it and that's exactly what happened in China. In other words, when you're looking at the details of the original incident in China, the virus appeared in Wuhan, China, according to all the best estimates, towards the end of October or towards the beginning of November. That was patient zero.

55:06 Now that would have allowed exactly the right amount of time for the virus to become an unstoppable epidemic around the time of the Lunar New Year travels in China. In other words, Lunar New Year is a tremendously important holiday in China. It's the equivalent of Christmas, New Year, and a number of other things put together. With 450 million Chinese traveling, Wuhan is a key transit hub. So to the extent that the virus became widespread in Wuhan invisibly, before the government noticed what was happening and during the Lunar New Year travels, it would have infected the entire country and had a devastating impact on China's economy. Hence the severe lockdown.

55:50 So I was interested when this guy was kind of bringing back that timeline because you know it's been so long we've talked about it so much like oh yeah it was Chinese Lunar New Year and then that's probably why they locked everybody down so tight we couldn't have everyone traveling around but then he brings out the timeline of the Trump administration, the tension with China at the time and his timeline is pretty impressive. Now the virus appeared Exactly at the peak of America's global confrontation with China and the suspicion that you know the two events connected is really fairly obvious one. Furthermore, when you look at some of the details of what had been happening in China the previous two years.

56:36 In 2018, there was a mysterious viral epidemic that had devastated China's poultry industry. In 2019, there was a mysterious viral epidemic that appeared in China and destroyed 40% of China's pig herds, its primary meat source. So we're talking about a virus. These were not mysterious. We knew what they were, we knew what caused them. And we talked about it a lot on this show, which is that African swine flu for pigs. He's right about the devastation part, but the mysterious part, I don't like him using that word. It's hyperbole, I agree. It is unnecessary because... and we tracked the pig swine flu specifically.

57:21 Yes, we did a pretty good job, probably better than anybody on tracking that particular disease. But I do like that he had the timeline of the 2018, the 2019. Yeah, I'm into his timeline. I just don't like the way he did that. I agree. I agree and we'll tell him that. Dipshit, stop doing that. 40% of China's pig herds, its primary meat source. So we're talking about a virus appearing in 2018. attacking its food supply, a virus appearing in 2019 attacking another source of food supply, and then a virus appearing at the end of 2019 that could have devastated China's economy in exactly that sort of way. Okay, so that the timeline gets your interest up. He also has an actor who we can talk about. Holy crap, Robert Cadluck.

58:10 Now, as it happens, when we look at some of the other events that really would make anybody very suspicious. In 2017, before these viral epidemics began, a man named Robert Cadillac was brought into the Trump administration. For decades, he'd been one of America's leading biowarfare experts, an advocate of biowarfare as being a very useful and plausibly deniable means of damaging or severely disrupting an international adversary. So he was brought in in 2017. And then in 2018 and 2019, these food supply viruses appeared to inflict a tremendous amount of damage in China.

58:51 Furthermore, when we look at the events of 2019, and we're talking about really ridiculous things. I mean from January to September 2019, Robert Cadillac's department ran something called the Crimson Contagion Exercise, which was a federal state planning process as to how America officials would guard America from suffering any damage, suffering infection from a respiratory virus that might suddenly appear in China. So we're talking about Robert Cadlock, America's chief biowarfare expert, running this exercise from January to August 2019. And two months later, exactly that sort of virus appeared in China.

59:40 I mean, the coincidences are really absolutely ridiculous. And we're talking about when something is called the Crimson Contagion exercise, it sounds like a bizarre conspiracy theory that was invented on a corner of the internet. The way I found out about it is there was a front page story in the New York Times describing it in all the details. So what we're talking about are basically a tremendous amount of circumstantial evidence pointing towards America elements of the American national security establishment inflicting a viral epidemic on China for very obvious reasons. In other words, China right now has one of the fastest growing world economies and in fact by most measures it already surpassed America's economy in size several years ago. Now remember his assertion is that this was an anti-economy bioweapon attack

1:00:34 And so the claim that he's making here is this Cadillac figure which is quite... He went into Barda, remember there was all that crap about Barda and that one guy got thrown out? Yeah. So this guy comes in and the assertion is, hey, you know, this guy set it all up and they tested with a crimson contagion Which is right there in the New York Times, the whole thing and then what did they learn? They have insufficient federal funding sources for severe pandemic, confusion on how to apply the Defense Production Act, current medical supply chain and production capacity would not meet demand. I mean all this stuff was all known. Interesting they still didn't do anything about it. And then...

1:01:13 He makes another assertion which by his timeline is pretty logical. Soon after the outbreak of the original Wuhan virus, the virus suddenly jumped 5,000, 3,000 miles to the city of Qom in Iran, the holy city of Qom, which was the center of their religious and political elites. Now, you know, if you're talking about a virus spreading from Wuhan, China, the most logical places you'd expect it to go next would be the other East Asian nations bordering China. And that's exactly where a few outbreaks did occur. But the virus then suddenly jumped all the way to Iran.

1:01:51 And in fact, the headline in the New York Times described Iran as being the second epicenter, the second global epicenter of the virus. Not only that, but it specifically targeted Iran's political elites. 10% of the Iranian parliament ended up being infected. Some of the top Iranian officials ended up being infected and a number of them died. So we're talking about a virus epidemic that occurred in Iran. just a few weeks after America had assassinated Iran's top military leader. What do you think so far? I actually have stuff, I can add some dimension to this when you're done. It's pretty good. Okay. So the obvious question is... You'll bring a crackpot out at me when you hear this. Alright, so the obvious question is...

1:02:39 Was this Trump's operation all along to screw China, to hurt them economically by shutting down all of the country they tried with, you know, Wuhan spreading out to everyone at the Lunar New Year and therefore getting back at them and then pulling a, oh China attacked us. Well, he has an answer for that. But one thing I should say is that once the virus spread to the United States, then the reaction of the Trump administration was so incompetent and This is so lazy and incompetent and ignored the whole problem. I think it's extremely unlikely that Trump himself was aware of what had happened. In other words, he basically claimed the virus didn't exist. It wasn't a problem. It would vanish by itself. He was so lackadaisical that we ended up having a massive outbreak in our country.

1:03:32 And from that point of view, I think it almost entirely rules out the possibility that he himself had authorized the attack. Now, with most administrations, most countries around the world, the notion of the top leader of a country having not been involved in a major bio-warfare attack against the country's leading international rivals would seem utterly absurd. But America is not a normal country these days. And the Trump administration was a very strange administration. If you've read some of the accounts that have come out, Trump's top aides and advisors would often run circles around him. They would, in some cases, they would hide his own executive orders, hoping that he would forget that he planned to issue them. So under those circumstances, it's easy to imagine some of the top national security officials in the Trump administration.

1:04:25 deciding to deal a body blow to China, America's leading geopolitical rival, and perhaps also Iran, attacking the Iran in leadership, and doing so without Trump's authorization. This to me of a bunch of nut job intelligence people pulling this off Yeah, and having Fauci in on it and possibly Fauci saying, hey guys, this is gonna happen. Finally we get to do the mRNA crap. Come on party! This is what we've been waiting for. And of course it failed horribly. That part is where it kind of falls apart. Where? It turns into a Trump hit.

1:05:10 No, no, no, no, no. It's not a Trump hit. No, no, no. You don't think it was a Trump hit when he says Trump was an incompetent bonehead? Oh, he's just... You can, it depends on how you view it. Trump, an incompetent bonehead, no. What happened was the media discredited everything he said. He was not getting proper advice. He was not getting advice on therapeutics. That was all being denied and swept away. And honestly, if you have a bioweapon that is an anti-economy bioweapon, the last thing you want to do is say, oh by the way, get some zinc and horse paste and you're good to go. Don't worry about it. So they had to, if this theory is what it is, then they had to keep everyone, certainly Trump, in the dark. And if he came up with these things himself because he did his research, then you have to discredit that.

1:06:07 And that made him look like a bumbling fool. But I don't think this guy is out to hit Trump. He's out to tell you that it was the national security intelligence apparatus. My own speculation or foreign speculation would be that all of the elements of the attack probably came from America's own national security establishment. In other words, the virus had probably been developed at Fort Detrick or some other biowarfare facility. The virus was probably taken to China by elements of American special forces or CIA operatives or something like that. And all of those individuals believed that they were acting with the full authorization of the top American government.

1:06:51 While on the other hand, the people actually involved were one notch down from Trump, probably a small group of officials who decided that they needed to strike a deep blow against China. And they basically authorized the attack on their own with all of the lower level officials, assuming that it had Trump's authorization, which it didn't. And then, you know, once the attack then caused massive blowback in the United States. I mean, by most estimates, probably about a million Americans have already died. It's the worst disaster to hit the United States since the Great Depression. It's the worst worldwide event, the most important worldwide event since the Second World War. So you can easily imagine those officials who were involved in it at the time, assuming that they did not intend for it to have blowback inside the United States.

1:07:38 would now be very, very concerned that their role might be found. And so you'd never get them to talk about it. I mean, a million Americans have died from it. Yeah, or with it, whatever. But I don't know. I like it. I like this theory, the deep state, bunch of CIA bull crap people doing this. For whatever reason? I have some issues with it, but I have some other thoughts. The issues I have involved... well of course this is the reason and anyone who was smart enough to be at the position where they were involved with this sort of testing and creation of this dangerous biological weapon

1:06:51 While on the other hand, the people actually involved were one notch down from Trump, probably a small group of officials who decided that they needed to strike a deep blow against China. And they basically authorized the attack on their own with all of the lower level officials, assuming that it had Trump's authorization, which it didn't. And then, you know, once the attack then caused massive blowback in the United States. I mean, by most estimates, probably about a million Americans have already died. It's the worst disaster to hit the United States since the Great Depression. It's the worst worldwide event, the most important worldwide event since the Second World War. So you can easily imagine those officials who were involved in it at the time, assuming that they did not intend for it to have blowback inside the United States.

1:07:38 would now be very, very concerned that their role might be found. And so you'd never get them to talk about it. I mean, a million Americans have died from it. Yeah, or with it, whatever. But I don't know. I like it. I like this theory, the deep state, bunch of CIA bull crap people doing this. For whatever reason? I have some issues with it, but I have some other thoughts. The issues I have involved... well of course this is the reason and anyone who was smart enough to be at the position where they were involved with this sort of testing and creation of this dangerous biological weapon

1:08:16 They always know that the problem with it is that it gets into you, it goes back, you can't stop it. That's why they had Event 201 and Crimson Contagion. They were supposed to be ready and they completely failed. They had all the shit that would go wrong and they couldn't handle it. So let's look at it from some somebody that might be able to uncover the basis for this. Who is the most protected person that we see as a spokesman and he's been doing his job forever in a very high up position and is in control of the billions and billions of research dollars that are involved with developing things like this.

1:09:00 So Fauci is untouchable and he's got a kind of a Cheshire cat look on his face. Let's say that they were gonna go ahead with this and let's say that it was our people that poisoned the Chinese chickens and the Chinese pigs. Because like somebody said, I can remember a lot of the details on that pork spine problem, is that they think you can eat a ham sandwich and toss it to the pigs because they'll eat the ham sandwich. And they get this disease and once it starts spreading, it spreads really fast. It's one of the fastest spreading diseases. It's because of cannibalism?

1:09:38 Well, they just eat a ham sandwich. Yeah, they would eat. They just eat their own. That's horrible. A ham sandwich. That's crazy. And we're going to decide that, well, this didn't do the job. It does give our farmers an upper hand in selling pork to the Chinese. And so this is good for balance of trade. Although they've never seemed to be too concerned about that. And now if you want to get Trump out of the picture, let's just may be part of the scheme to get rid of him, too, because the intelligence community doesn't like Trump. Mm-hmm because he's threatens them in some way or other well, so he has to go and this got rid of him by the way It got rid of him But but also I in my mind tie this into perhaps a desire from the financial markets to do this That's my whole thing and I won't belabor it but boy that would be great if you could screw China screw the supply chains that stops the whole world economy and it went even better than they could have hoped for Yeah, you can buy low so

1:10:42 Fauci then is given the assignment. So Fauci dreams up to has to be the guy that dreamed up the scheme. Well, he has all the gain of function. We've got... No, listen to this thesis. Okay. All right. So they're working on this gain of function thing at Fort Detrick. We're gonna just keep that in play. But they can't do it anymore, so he says, we gotta spread, somehow we're not gonna be able to just make it here and then drop it off somehow by special forces. Why bother doing any of that complicated stuff? We know the record of all the biological labs in the world, and the leakiest one was always the Wuhan lab.

1:11:21 Let's just give them the assignment of give them the money. Assignment, yeah. Give them the assignment of working on this thing, get it up to a par. It'll just leak out on its own. It will get out of the lab within six months to a year because that lab is leaky. Right, well irrelevant whether they triggered it purposely or they knew it would happen eventually. I think such an operation you'd probably want to be a little more prepared and have some kind of detonator and not leave it up to chance. But they had people inside the lab. Anything could have happened. They'll just take this home. But there's anything but the point is that it still came out of that lab. Sure.

1:12:01 Sure, I mean it's an interesting fun theory if you want to call that kind of thing fun That it has a few holes in it, but it's not out of control and it's believable that they would circumvent You know Trump if but they would certainly why does it have to be Trump? I mean why specifically Trump at this point in history? Would they have done the same thing to Hillary? Would they pull the same stunt? Would she have been more involved? I don't know. Yes, yes. I believe they would have done the same thing, except Hillary would have been in on it. It would have been her plan. And it probably would have gone much better. Maybe it was her plan to begin with. And it might have gone much better. Maybe this was Hillary's plan. Possible. Yeah. Well... The timing got messed up for sure because this retreat is not what they wanted.

1:12:54 It's not what they wanted. Well that's why you can't do these things. It's also really rude. This is a deathbed thing. It's really rude to do this to people. So no, it's not so cool. A deathbed thing. How many times have we had some CIA guy or Russian guy on his deathbed admitted to everything. The moon landing's fake. We killed... Did JFK, CIA hit job? And no one ever cares. Deathbed stuff is no good. It's better than nothing. Yeah. Which is what you've got. Better than nothing.

1:13:37 Yes, good there. I like it. I'm I mean feeling what I feel now. I'm not even convinced you get that me or do your clips no no no no no this was I was actually I think it's Anna from the Netherlands sent me this link and it's it's just YouTube and I only got through half of it. Did you download it? Yes, you can do that now on YouTube. You can click the download. I didn't know that there was a download link. That seems to be new. That seems to be... I have a download link too, but it's actually a third-party product. No, I don't have a third-party product. This just popped up today. I'd never noticed it before. So yes, of course I've downloaded that. This guy is not that fringe. I mean, he's hated, but he's not that fringe. Anyway, again, I'm still not sure this isn't just a pandemic of dumb testing.

1:14:31 And the flu, who knows? I do know that the way I felt Tuesday and Wednesday, if I was completely freaked out, like, oh, oh, oh, COVID, COVID, got the COVID! Yeah, I could see where you could make yourself feel really, really, really bad. No doubt. It was definitely, it was pre-programmed to, I mean, I remember in the first few days of this thing back in the 21, 20 or 20, There was a, I was at the grocery outlet and this guy, everyone's masked up and they're all freaking, they're standing, that's when you walk down the street and people give you a wide berth. Remember that? Yeah, oh sure. So this guy starts yelling at his wife for touching a loaf of bread.

1:15:22 It may have been touched it may have been touched and he's just yelling and screaming going nuts because she's touched this thing and she didn't have gloves on and this is the era when people wear those blue neoprene gloves. Yeah, people were washing all of their food. It's unbelievable. It's sad. It's evil what has been done to the people of the world and It's the ruling class, not even the elites, but the ruling class is the middle management of your cities. They hate the middle class working people. They hate them. And I figured out that's also Rogan's problem.

1:16:06 Rogan represents the guys in the Dire Straits video, you know, moving the refrigerator on your color TV. No, he looks like one of them. Yeah, it's the same thing. As rich as that guy is, he looks like a working class stiff and muscle-bound. Because he is. That's his... his attitude is that. And they hate it. And they hate that there's 11 million people of these degenerates, these middle-class workers, tuning in and oh look they he talks to elites yeah he can't be on that level telling you that's definitely an issue hate hate them they hate us John they just hate us they hate middle-class working podcasters podcast oh yeah well we should probably just discuss this briefly then man did you see this DHS bulletin

1:17:00 Oh yeah, I should post it. I'll put a link to the next newsletter. I was going to post it on there. Summary of terrorism threat to the US homeland. Yeah. And just to mention the key factors contributing... Wait, explain what it is. I'm gonna read it to you! No, no, but explain what it is you're reading so people can get a clue. It's a bulletin from the Department of Homeland Security, which I just said. It's a National Terrorism Advisory System bulletin. and they have a summary of terrorism threat to the U.S. homeland. And this will last... Before you read, this reminds me, remember during this era where, again during the Trump, I think it's during the Trump era or even maybe before, now I don't have the time, where there was another one of these bulletins came out that said somebody carries the Constitution with them, they have a liberty or death bumper sticker, these are all terrorists.

1:17:59 I'd like to remind everybody that as far as I can recall Department of Homeland Security was created after 9-11. Was it not part of the Patriot Act? Yes. And the promise was don't worry this is only for Al Qaeda, ISIS, Islamic terrorists, everything from the outside. We're gonna be protecting you in America. We'll never never never use it on Americans. I'll read a little bit from this. It's long, but I'll just give you... what I'm not going to read is long, but the whole thing is lengthy. It's a couple pages. The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled... how about that for some hyperbole? The online environment is filled

1:18:50 To the brim! To the brim! To the brim! With false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories and other forms of mis, dis, and mal information, also known as MDM. I like that mis, dis, and mal. And I started noticing that Saki has been saying miss or she's been saying miss and dis. She's not used mal yet. But she better get on board because that's the new direction is miss, dis, mal. And they, this definition was put in on January 31st. Anyway, let me continue here.

1:19:35 So, the online environment filled to the brim with false and misleading narrative conspiracy theories, other forms of mis-dis and mal-information introduced and or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. A threat actor! These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction and so discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest which could potentially inspire acts of violence. And let's see. Silent you're violent. Silent you're violent, that's true. Here is a key factors contributing to the current heightened threat environment. They include the proliferation of false or misleading narratives which so discord or undermine public trust in government institutions, colon. For example, there's widespread, widespread! What happened to filled to the brim? Now it's widespread. It's filled and wide.

1:20:36 Online proliferation of false and misleading narratives regarding unsubstantiated widespread election fraud and COVID-19. Now there's a reason those two are in the same sentence. You're against vaccine mandates, mass mandates, you question COVID-19? You're no better than an insurrectionist. Do you read it that way? Absolutely. Grievances associated with these themes inspired violent extremist attacks during 2021. So, and this just goes on and on and on and questioning, questioning, even domestic, domestic violent extremists have also viewed attacks against US critical infrastructure as a means to create chaos and advance ideological goals and have recently aspired to disrupt US electric

1:21:32 and communications critical infrastructure, including, here it comes, by spreading false or misleading narratives about 5G cellular technology. That's why you were fired. That's why you were fired. You were fired. That's why you were fired. This is not okay. And so they have their own little unit. They have the domestic terrorism unit inside DHS. So what happens? They just come and knock on your door. Hey, podcaster! I mean, what can they do if, yeah, if they show up? I mean, what do you do? Seriously, I'm asking you a serious question now. Tell them to get the fuck out. Now, this is not going anywhere. And it'll be taken apart in Congress. But and if the thing that's the giveaway, there's a giveaway in here. If this is all true and all this is going on, why does this document have an expiration date of June 7th of this year?

1:22:34 What is the point of an expiration date? Does the terrorism, the domestic terrorism, all disappear on June 7th? No. Oh, which is coincidentally the day of the primaries for the midterm elections? Is it? Yes. Wow! So what does that mean? That means let's shake things up the best we can to get people to not vote Republican and when the primaries happen this won't be, this is over. This is over because now we're in the real race for, we'll bring out the big, we'll do something even better. We have to do something because these Republicans are going to take over Congress and we can't have that. This is the most political thing I've ever seen and I hope that the

1:23:20 The Congress, or the Republicans, stand up and do something about it. It's ridiculous. I love how you're like, I'm an optimist, when you're like, oh yeah, people should do something about it. Yeah, Republicans might do something about it. Yeah, I know. You watch Tucker Carlson too. No, I don't watch Tucker Carlson for any of that. I keep telling my own very own wife, I said, well man I hope the Republicans really sweep this. I said, for what? To have more shenanigans and bullshit douchebags screwing us over? Yeah, well it's a disgrace, one douchebag taking the place of another. Exactly, that's my point. I'm not arguing that, but the point is still, this is still political crap. Yeah, well they're not going to get rid of the Department of Homeland Security or any of the 17,000 intelligence

1:24:11 organizations, that's the only ones that know about him. They're not because they're a-holes and the intelligence community has six ways till Sunday to get back at you. These guys have a lock on it. They have a lock on them. They have a lock on them. people are afraid. Yeah, it's unfortunate but true. It's corrupt to the core and until those FBI certainly and see oh the FBI is out of control. It's dangerous these guys are a menace to society. Yeah. Not all of course but in general the unit the whole organization is not pro-America it's pro-douche. Pro-China. No and with that

1:24:58 I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the crimson contagion ladies and gentlemen Mr. John C. Dvorak. Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Cramer. What happened to your echo machine man? I didn't have it handy. Well in the morning to the trolls in the troll room trollroom.io is Where you can join the trolls on the live show. Should we give them a count today? We've been up on these numbers recently. Hey, trolls, hands up! Look at them scurry away. Oh, not bad. A little lower than our previous record. 24 even. 2400 even. It was 2408, I think, wasn't it? The record, the actual record that we had last... It was 28. 2809. That's right. Wow.

1:25:53 We lost a whole bunch of trolls. You know how I know this? Yeah, you have a post-it note. I have a sticker. It's a little round sticker. It's one of those round ones. Nice. And I put it up. It's right on the paint. You need to... on the paint? Yeah, they got a shelf here and I just stick it right on there and it's permanently attached. It's interesting. That's how we also run the donations for the show. Similar system. Hey, you can listen to the shows live, noagendastream.com or if you want you can also get it through trollroom.io. Troll along, listen to all the live shows on noagendastream.com which has been going along almost as long as the show itself and there's entire

1:26:36 communities of podcasts and shows that all circle and kind of congregate around noagendastream.com and the Troll Room and No Agenda Social which you can use to follow me, Adam, at noagendasocial.com or John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com. It truly is an oasis of rest and calm in the, oh my god, so I use Twitter as an inbox. I look at the, what is it, notifications and that's pretty much it. But if you go to your, and maybe this has always been this way, but you know, so of course I'm on my back, I'm feeling crappy, and I'm like, I'm gonna go through the home timeline of Twitter. This is not who you follow. If you follow someone, yeah, it might show up, but every other tweet that I get is based on your timeline. What?

1:27:29 They're just sticking random people in now. They put just random crap in the timeline. But it's now, it's every other tweet that I might be following someone they throw in. It's just like useless now and it's vile. Now? It was, yes. I think that's a, I don't know if this is new, but it's a gross mistake. And it's gross in general. I have a My use for it is for direct messages to certain people that I seem to only be in contact with via Twitter, A. And B is to plug the show. Yeah, I only retweet pretty much. Anyway, so if you're not on the Mastodons, you got to get cracking on that because that's where all the cool kids are. We're awaiting Trump's

1:28:25 Trump truth, yeah it's coming out. Every time you bring it up it cracks me up. It's coming out in March, it's coming out in March. It may, it turns out now, it may be a Pleroma instance which is compatible with the Mastodon, bless you, which is compatible with the Fediverse but seen by many as superior to the basic Mastodon setup. And my Pleroma. Exactly. So that's no... You hear that every time. Pretty much. So that's noagendasocial.com Now let's take a look at the artwork for... I see episode... My Pleroma. It sounds like a disease. Oh, he's got Pleroma. What? Is he gonna live? There's a lot of developers out there who love who think this is very funny what you're doing here. For sure. Now what the heck man? Why can't I not get to the... this is Annoyballs.

1:29:28 Annoy balls. I for some reason can't seem to get to the show notes for 1423. That's weird. Show notes? Yeah, I just go to the art page. Well, but do you remember what the name of the show was? Nah. Okay, so there's my point. This is why I guess everything's frozen here. What is my pleroma? No, no. Well, anyway, it was episode. You're not gonna get a kick out of the art that just came in. I can't get anywhere now. Damn it. Oh, you poor thing. Okay. No agenda show.com. Why don't you tell me what the episode wasn't who did the art? Okay.

1:30:08 Let me just type in no agenda show up so long. Baby stealers already have it baby stealers and Gosh, it's taking forever. What's going on today? They're already on to me John. They're trying to slow down my miss dis and malinformation We're having trouble finding that site Literally, no, I know I got non agenda show that would be Non-agenda show. Is there a non-agenda show dot com? That's great. Anyway, so it was titled Baby Steelers. Thank you Tante Neil, or Tante Neal as we would say in America, for the, we thought, perfectly hilarious image of Jeff Bezos in his new Dutch built super yacht. There was a lot of perfect things in that.

1:30:57 Especially… Including one that I missed? Well, it's a… The orange balloon. The orange balloon, which is… The orange balloon, hello! And it's a Dutch… it's a very typical Dutch design of a boat that you might see on the canals. Yes, it's a canal boat. Kind of a canal boat type of… Shortened. Yeah, so am I supposed to see something as… And I guess legs come out of the bottom of it too. Bezos can walk along the bottom of the canal. Were there other things that we were looking at? There was a lot of ghosts. It also said Blue Origin. Yeah, it had a lot of stuff on there. Let's see, what else? I like Freedom Convoy, but you couldn't see No Agenda on there. There was a lot of good art. There was, let's see...

1:31:45 Well now they say now that we're there. I think it was a bunch of I like the Canadian goose on top of the truck But you didn't like that I like Viva la Liberté honk excuse me the Canadian goose on top Oh, yeah, I thought the goose was too small. Yeah, you said the goose, but it was to me It was fine. Yeah, Ness works Viva la Liberté just below that I thought was quite good. I like the No agenda effective safe mRNA like the safety trigger from Gabe Gabe Grider yeah, you didn't like that I didn't get it that much I like to honk with the boat with the Mack truck logo which was kind of nice There's a there's a lot of usable art, but there was no Nothing had the jarring impact now. I'm Bezos in the little boat. I laughed at the Noah Gen Dizer battery spin for power, but I

1:32:44 Which one was that? It's the big battery. Oh, the battery. Because, you know, you were spinning your batteries trying to get them to work. Ah! In your keyboard or whatever. Yeah, because I... yeah, well, it's a funnier story. I also liked in this corner the Vaccinated by Dame Kenny band. It's a muscular guy. You know, it's just a nice piece. It would have been if... would have popped a bit. God Save the Body Double. I like that. Where's that? Keep calm it's it's a body. No no not to keep cool. Keep calm with this body double debt to below That is the kind of punk rock looking. Oh God save the body double. Oh, yeah, the sex pistols never mind the bollocks type thing That's the tad Tantaniel using her skills as a modern graphic designer

1:33:35 Well, we're very happy with the Bezos boat. I think it showed very well what we're all about. And I don't know, do you think she enhanced his eye or is that just his regular big eye? You can look at a million pictures of Bezos and often his right eye is almost dead closed and his left eye is bulging. So there was no enhancement needed. It's fun to laugh about people's physical issues. Yeah, especially when they're the richest person in the world and can be snuffed out in a second. Right. Thank you very much, Tonto Nail, and thank you to all the artists for doing fantastic work, always entertaining us. And everybody can enjoy it. You can go to noagendaartgenerator.com and you can see the entire collection. We have over, I think, close to 30,000 images

1:34:29 and multiple of the number of episodes we've done. And also, if you'd like to help protect, preserve, and extend podcasting to enhance it, leave the legacy apps, get a modern podcast app, newpodcastapps.com. You can see all of these images flying by as one of the many new features of Podcasting 2.0. And let us thank our executive and associate executive producers for today, 1424. Now we got a lot of some longish notes I see. And right off the bat, like holy crap what is going on here? Michael Minton is in Louisville, Kentucky. Do we have a term for this number of threes? A row of... How about this? Eeeeee!

1:35:21 Maybe. $3,333.33. Here's his note. Thank you, by the way. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. Kindest regards, Earl Mittens of a world distance. P.S. dames, knights and douchebags alike don't be- A world distant. Of a world distant. That's what I said, of a world distant. P.S. I'm sorry. P.S. dames, knights and douchebags alike don't be a stranger at the Nashville Skate Rager. See y'all soon. I'll be there. Rona and all. No kissing. No, definitely no. Unless you want it.

1:36:07 So he's got no jingles, no... No! No! Nothing. Good man, Michael. That's pretty crazy. Jason Abt, A-B-T is what it says. $696.96 from Viroqua. Viroqua? Viroqua? Viroqua. It's gotta be that. Wisconsin. ITM guys, love the media assassination and the sanity it gives us. I donate $696.96 plus 50. Which I set up as a monthly donation. These donations total 746.96. It makes me a knight. That doesn't make him a knight, but the bookkeeping I saw does make him a knight. He's been donating to 50 for a while actually. Please knight me sir. Iceman. Jingles get the jab. No. Shut up slave. Pew pew. Little girl yay. Get back.

1:37:03 No. Shut up, slave! Yay! Couple of programming notes. There is... Yes, for the producers. If you want to jingle, please do not be cutesy with get the jab. Because I looked for quite a while for a get the jab ISO until I realized you wanted get vaccinated. And again, And I just have to be harsh, the next person who sends me a screenshot without a link, I will personally come to your home and beat your ass. I am so tired of this. And people love the show notes, man we can research everything, it's easy to search. Not if you're sending me screenshots of articles you just read! So over that. Okay.

1:37:58 I'm really mad about that. Program note, Adam has COVID. Yes, exactly. Stephen King from Grand Rapids, Michigan, 38008. I like that. It's like a three boob. 380.08. Here we go in the morning first time donor long time douchebag. Please rev up the de-douching machine You've been de-douched I tried to keep this note succinct But if too long John can entertain himself by reading it in a disparaging voice now. I'll do that I'm good at that

1:38:41 This donation is for 380.08 is the alien three boobs donation. See I got it. For anyone into more exotic views. Dog boobs. I mean how many dogs have only three? Normally I would put something like this on a subscription model but design the coveted executive producer credit left me hanging. My workaround was to set aside a little bit each month and then send it all over in one big lump sum. Well, thank you. That's very cool. I presume the sustaining donations would be preferred to have a more stable income so perhaps some kind of other recognition would help. Not quite sure what you meant.

1:39:19 Regardless, No Agenda is clearly the best podcast in the universe and my main source of news. You will want to diversify. Alongside other value for value podcasts like Congressional Dish and MoFax, have not tried DH Unplugged yet but probably will at some point. No Agenda helps keep things real. Keep it real. and avoids falling into mental traps on both the right and left. As someone who is disposed to lean far in either direction and who has had struggles with more radical outlooks than the incel movement, No Agenda helps me see a real human connection is key to it all. In my eyes, male and female relations in the West are at an all-time low and the M5M seems to refuse to cover anything related to it. Such a media blackout would be fit for deconstruction, though the lack of clips does make things a bit harder for the show. Curious on how you and John feel about it, about men and women not getting into relationships at a typical age? No, I think he's...

1:40:20 What he said specifically, if you want to deconstruct it, he wants us to know how we feel about the fact that the media has not covered this. Oh, all part of the plan. Why did we do that? We don't want to alert anybody to the fact that we're not having babies or anything like that or even... Heaven forbid! ...we don't want any of that. So that's how we feel about it. Trying to kill us all. That's what it is. Hello, hello. This is what the whole show is about, how they're trying to kill us all. Lastly could I get a dose of relationship karma to get my single ass out there to mingle as well as the most obscure jingle you can dig up? Huh? Yes, I'll get the most obscure jingle I can dig up because whenever I ask for it or whenever it's asked for I can never find it. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone

1:41:07 You've got karma. That's obscure. Love is lit, he says, by the way. Love is lit. Thank you. You remember where that was clipped from? No. I think it was yours, though. Yeah. It was clipped from the spin-osh, spin-osh, spin-off of Family Guy, American Dad. Oh right, which lasted what, a season? It's still on. No! Really? Yes. Oh wow. On cable. Oh wow. Oh wow, did you say oh wow? I just said oh wow. Ah, and I didn't catch it. Idiot.

1:41:48 Cam Warren 333.33 I gotta get back on the oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow far out man groovy Don't big message, writes Cam Warren. Came in 333.33. No big message, thank you. Just keep seeing that number over and over since we're about to go on a quick vacation. I thought I better donate and ask for some karma. I would like to call out Susan as a douchebag. She's a friend that I hit in the mouth over a year ago and I know she loves the show. So no jingles just the karma keep up the good work. Thank you. Can you've got karma? Richard Harris is in Provo, Utah another perfect 333 dot 33 help he says I need okay help I need medical dispensary job karma and some relationship karma

1:42:44 They might be able to come together, wouldn't we? That'd be nice. Thanks for the twice weekly reality check. Maybe a de-douching since it's been over a year. You've been de-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Nikas, Karma. I think it's got time limits on the de-douched. William Wild in Baltimore, Maryland, 333.33. Another perfect donation. Hi, TM John. I'm watching old Computer Chronicles episode and saw the one where you take apart the IBM PS2. A classic. A classic. Did you ever get that thing put back together? Yes, I did. It was very modular. That machine was extremely interesting from an engineering perspective.

1:43:35 Keep up the good work, Adam and John. I need some goat karma today. Well, we can do that. Hey, get it, goat. You've got karma. I should mention, I'll give you this one. I'll take this one. Chap Williams came in with 333.33 from Edmond, Oklahoma. And this is a bank check that came in from those bank payment systems. We get lots of those. and there's no note you can even attach to it. So I always expect an email and this is the second or third time CHAP has sent in this donation. So thanks, but we have no communications at the moment. Oh, no comms? Comms are down? No, comms are down.

1:44:26 Hey, he's gum gummy nerds. Everybody knows gummy nerds. Calms her down! Calms her down! Which by the way sounds a lot like calms her down. I like calms her down. I like calms her down. That sounds... Okay. Here we go, Gummy Nerds. Who doesn't know Gummy Nerds? 3311 from Green Bay, Wisconsin. The morning, darling crackpot and dearest buzzkill. Thanks to your continued efforts, the No Agenda Show remains the best podcast in the universe. As many of our stalwart producers are aware, Mr. Adam Curry visited Dutch troops in Iraq during February of 2004. This was the same month I arrived in Kuwait.

1:45:09 Kuwait to begin a year-long deployment with the US Army's 1st Infantry Division as an infantryman assigned to the 1st Battalion 26th Infantry Regiment, the Blue Spaders. Phew! This past October, two men I serve with created their own podcast. They call their show, Before I Forget. To quote from this show's description, before I forget is, two US Army combat infantrymen telling their perspectives pre and post 9-11 and their experiences in Germany and events during the early days of Operation Iraqi Freedom and life after the war. These two gentlemen were gracious enough to invite me to be a guest on the show. I was honored to speak with them. A bit giddy, I must say, because I had not spoken with them in more than 16 years. The first part of our conversation was published, you mean the pod was dropped, this past Monday, February 7th.

1:45:54 Knowing the kindness generosity and humanity of our no agenda tribe. I would like to ask something of our show's producers Please give a listen to before I forget Oh and before I forget may we have some combat karma for all people who have been touched by war and one jingle please of Podfathers choosing love is lit and such Well, you're digging that out I would have like go ahead it's one to ask just Yeah, so Gummy Nerds, did you plug the No Agenda show while you were on the other podcast? Oh, because if you didn't, there will be repercussions. I'm sure he did because he's... he must have. It would be crazy to think he didn't. Thanks, Gummy Nerds! They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin. You've got karma.

1:46:45 So you have to read the next one because this one goes right off the edge of the spreadsheet into oblivion. Yeah, I actually looked at this and I am able to redact it on the fly. This is from Frankcito. in Los Angeles, California. This is his first donation. He says he's ready for a de-douching. You've been de-douched. And it is clear it's the first donation because this is probably the longest note anyone's ever sent. And we'll skirt from the beginning to the end because he has a whole report here. I started listening to NOAAgenda very recently after your previous, not most recent,

1:47:23 appearance on the Joe Rogan experience. Your analysis of the news provides much-needed sanity and clarity as the M5M is hell-bent on creating a simulated reality. I recently found myself a fulfilling new job and I'm happy to say that I'm no longer an English teacher. I believe all the jobs karma helps. Now, I finally have enough extra money to give some value back to you and Adam and John, I'm a millennial producer. I've been living in South Korea since the start of the pandemic. So here's a well overdue boots on the ground report. and I can skip around through this, the government seemingly did a good job keeping cases down at first with curfews and restrictions on gatherings as well as mass testing with contact tracing. But when the winter months arrived, it became obvious that the virus was well out of control of any policy. Nonetheless, restrictions were increasingly tightened over the months until the government could shift the narrative to vaccinations or to save face for their failed policies that damaged so many small businesses. Yeah, sounds pretty much like

1:48:22 everybody there. Now I'm going to... there has been, yes, there's been pushback. I want to make sure... oh god, this it doesn't even fit on the... I need like another Excel just to be able to get this out. There's been some pushback from the people, a group of doctors, lawyers and brilliant high schooler named Young Derim. They have sued the Ministry of Health due to them trying to force the jab on minors. Small businesses have been protesting and organizing as best they can. Tragically, some owners have tried to take large loans to stay financially solvent. Others have taken their own lives due to financial burdens of the restrictions to their business. Yeah, this is bad. You have to scan your QR code wherever you go. It will loudly announce if you've been vaccinated. How about that? Oh, please. That's cool. So you scan your code. You are vaccinated, a good human resource.

1:49:17 Or just plays a dull, melodic beep if you're not jabbed. The businesses need to foot the cost of having this QR infrastructure, of course. Furthermore, the government doesn't acknowledge foreign vaccinations, so this had caused some foreigners to get an unneeded additional jab. Needless to say... Oh, that's terrible. It's horrible. Life has been increasingly tiresome with the policies from the government here. My girlfriend and I are both unvaccinated, so we cook at home every day and have been expanding our culinary repertoire. Yes, right. We are making the best of things since we really cannot go out anymore. We're looking to get out of this dystopian hellscape and I want to move back to Hungary and she wants to come with me. Is she a Korean? Curious. She is applying to University in Budapest and we request some goat karma for her round of interviews coming soon and then hopefully her admission to uni as a start of a new journey in life. Wow, I mean Hungary is what a contrast. I say.

1:50:17 Hungary is a very open and free, normal place. Yeah, it's nice there actually. A former New York banker's kid went there from vacation a couple of weeks. What did he say? He loved it. It's supposed to be clean, it's like it's just really gussied up. See that boy is really, really pretty. He's like, what, 19 or 20. And immediately all these people are like, hey, you know, how long you can have dinner over at my place? All the girls, all the girls. Oh yeah, he's definitely one of those. That was reminds me of a 30 Rock episode where Jon Hamm played this good-looking boyfriend on the part of Tina Fey and everywhere they went they got in free. Of course.

1:51:04 Thanks for all you do I look forward to reaching my knighthood and seeing you all at the roundtable lastly requesting a vocal fry jingle Okay, well luckily I have that set up. You know, obviously I read I read the New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad You've got karma. All right Thanks. Thanks Frank. I believe next on the list is Carl Leipold in Arnold, Maryland, $260. Associate Executive Producers. I prepare for my 65th revolution, entering the medical care age on February 9th. I look to further pursue my quest towards knighthood. With this donation, I am halfway there. No jingles, job karma for Mo.

1:51:55 And, oh, poor Mo. And many thanks for the best podcast in the universe, Carl Leipold. As someone who has gone through this, the Medicare thing, I have a recommendation for people up there coming up on this. And it's a good one. In some areas, in most areas of the country, there's a social security office where you can go in, you take a number, you wait an hour, and you go in, it's like going into the DMV, but the social security guys... What you've just described already sounds incredibly appealing. I know, that part sounds like, okay, I'm not arguing the point.

1:52:31 That's what you would think, but then when you go to these guys, these guys, to tell you the truth, are so helpful. Really? There's a bunch of different little toggles and stuff that they can fix and check off. So you get maxed out benefits to an extreme. You'd never be able to do this yourself. You have to go to the social security office? Yeah. and you run into these bureaucrats who are more than happy to help. So they paid for your... I know it sounds weird but it's a fact. So your eye surgery, all that stuff was completely covered? Everything? Oh I had to pay extra for my eye surgery. Oh it was elective. No my, no the eye surgery was paid for. Yes it was paid for. I had an upgrade. Ah that's right.

1:53:16 The bionics. I had the bionic eyeball put in. So that cost me cash money. Is that the Bezos version? No, I didn't get the Bezos version, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this show. I'd be rich. Thanks, Carl. Hey, there's Jackie Green. No note, but who doesn't know Jackie Green? I looked him up. I looked for a note. I didn't see anything. Jackie Green is famous. Jackie Green is famous. Yes, Jackie Green is famous. 222.33 from Orangeville, California. Thank you, Jackie. Jackie Green. Famous Jackie Green. No, no, he's so famous, like, man, just, I don't need the note. I don't need a note. I don't need a note, man. I'm Jackie Green. Jackie Green. Jackie Green.

1:53:58 Mike Robinson in Salem, Oregon comes in right after Jackie Greene with a row of ducks, 222.22. ITM, Sir Furry Furry gives a call out to all Gitmo Nation citizens in the Willamette Valley, including our Canby Real Estate gal and Millennial Mel. Woo hoo! Join our meetup at Sparky's Brewing in Salem, Saturday the 19th. Trivia and prizes in the offing. Wow. That's a cool way to promote your meetup. I think so. Excellent. Baron Anonymous Cop is in San Carlos, California and a row of ducks or geese, I think we should call it geese still. John and Adam in the morning, donation of 222.22 from the unofficial tactical patch supplier of the No Agenda Show. Ah yes.

1:54:51 I'd like to announce a discount code at the 41patchesCalifornia shop on Etsy in celebration of the upcoming 2-2-2-2-2-2-2 palindrome with $5 off a purchase of $15 or more with the code ITM222. Good through the end of the month. Should help get some of these off my hands and into the wild. These are very nice patches, by the way. Very nice patches. I have some stickers coming out very soon. John, big fan of the stickers. You've always been a fan of stickers. Now you just walked away. Okay. I have... Yeah, you did. I'm right here. You literally walked away. I had to go grab this note off the desk. I know.

1:55:30 I have some stickers coming out very soon which will be perfect for slapping on a laptop on your local street light, or your kid's sister. Along with the last patch for a while. Oh, this is the last one, 3.0, coming out in March. Just for a teaser, it's Tactical AF. Involves black and grey along with the words consulting group on it. Okay. Oh, there's a winner. He's getting the hang of it. I can't wait for that one. Yeah, consulting group. Yeah, the tactical consultant, whatever I look forward to it. Perfect for the spook go bag or tack vest. You imagine if a bunch of like CAA guys just have these? Oh man. Hey man, it's cool. I'd like to extend a heartfelt thank you to all the producers who have purchased items and are showing off the goods to help propagate the formula. And finally, I'd like to request some dog karma for the truckers and producers in Canada fighting the good fight. Stay safe!

1:56:20 Stay safe! Take care all. Baron Anonymous, cop of the Bay Area. Now, I don't know if this came from a Baron Anonymous cop or someone else, but someone, and I thank you, I fortunately lost track of specifics, but somebody sent me some what was called collectible stickers for the Biden. I hate Biden, F Biden, all that kind of stuff. But he also had these stickers Which I'm not gonna save because they're just too great. I got the Donald, the little bitty Donald Trump pointing his finger saying Biden did that and the Biden one, you've seen these pictures of these things, the Biden one where Biden's pointing his finger saying I did that. You put him on gas pumps. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I've seen these. At the price point, the price thing or at the total or whatever. You also have a Greta one, isn't there a Greta? I didn't get a Greta one.

1:57:19 But to me, and I know exactly where I get my gas, I'm gonna go put one of these stickers up. It's away from the, there's no way they can see me doing it, it's like a vandalism. But it's vandalism, but it's funny, vandalism is quite humorous. I did that, I did that, you know, the price is 75 bucks for half a tank of gas. In California, yeah. Yeah, well California, yeah, we're at 520 for premium. Dakota Coal, yeah and we also are gasoline producers in this state so we're paying the most. Are you kidding me? No. Oh let's vote him in again! Yeah. Dakota Coal in Pineville, or Prinville, Oregon 220-222.

1:58:05 Hello fellow degenerates. Thank you for what you both do. I look forward to when your podcast comes out. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. And I'm calling out... Riley Ryle, I don't know, R-Y-L-E, is that Riley Ryle? I don't know. For being a douche. Give me Jobs, Karma and a dealer's choice. Put this, this is an interesting day today with all these... I'd like to make another point of personal privilege and a production note. Dealer's choice is not cool. Just request your jingles. Because if I say dealer's choice... John, dealer's choice! Dealer's choice, John! Dealer's choice! What is it? What jingle?

1:58:53 Greg-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay-yay- Every time? From now on, no. If you do it every time, people will stop asking. Yeah, and how do we get people to stop sending screenshots without a link? Just keep yelling? Just keep, no, send them a no. No, just send them a no. Michael Day is in Fouquet, Verena, North Carolina. Row of geese for you, he says. Credit this donation to my wife, Kelly. Switcheroo. Okay. Kelly. Kelly. Got it.

1:59:55 The first South Wake County Resist We Much meetup was a success. We ended up with 13 folks coming out to a local brewery and picked up a couple of onlookers that we hit in the mouth. Excellent work. That's rare. It doesn't happen that often. No, it should happen more often. It should. And I think a lot of bar staff definitely start to hang out with our people like, these guys over here are cool. It's nice to network with sane folks these days. Yes, community and human contact is what it's all about. Good conversations about the usual stuff in a judgment-free zone. One person mentioned it was nice to know that she wasn't alone in her line of thinking these days. It's refreshing to know that other people out there actually understand your perspective and concern. Looking forward to the next one. Jingles resist me much and ooh, and you have a truck horn somewhere in your audio files. Give a

2:00:48 blast to our friends up north I have something for me but resist we much we must and we will much about that be committed okay best I could do flying by the seat of my pants here onward with Sir Matt of the growing tree and bend Soup Club in Bend, Oregon. Ah, I see. Nice. 21183. ITM John and Adam. I was hit in the mouth after Adam's third rogue appearance and haven't missed an episode since. My smoking hot wife was hit in the mouth soon thereafter and we hope to hit our good friend Evelina in the mouth with this very episode. Please de-douche.

2:01:45 You've been de-douched. My donation of 211.83 is in honor of my partner slash wife of almost 17 years, Deborah Cousins. 39th trip around the sun tomorrow on 2-11. Would you please add her to the birthday list? That's Deb, Deb-bor-ah, Deborah, not Deborah or Debbie. Deborah. Do we say Deborah or Deborah? Deborah. I think it's Deborah. I've heard Deborah. Deborah. Okay, make it Deborah. No, I want to do it right. See, now he's already, now he's made it worse. Well, yeah. Deb or a. Deborah. Okay. This dash is Deborah. Hello, Deborah. Deb or a. Hello, Deb or a. Hey, Deb or a. Okay, we got it.

2:02:37 Add cousins pronounced cousins. We got that. Got it. Nailed it. Jingles are please don't eat me Bojiden, you're so scary. Obama, you might die and go to Karma for all of our Central Oregonian comrades. Thank you, Mr. Matt of the growing tree and Ben's soup club. Don't eat me Bojiden, you're scary, so scary. You might die. You've got Karma. Up next, Maria Cole, 211-13... 33, I should say. New York, New York. Birthday donation from myself. First donated last year but forgot to ask for a deducing was left off of the birthday list. What? That's no good. Thank you for keeping this S-A-H-M.

2:03:28 of three same... SHAM. No, no, it's S-A... it's single something... S-A-H-M. Yeah, but it's an acronym, John. S-A-H-M, which is single American human mother. How the hell am I supposed to know what that is? I don't know. It's a mother of three... this is very bad. I don't know. Single adult human male. Ah! There we... did you look it up? No, I just dreamed it up. No, I think you read the classifieds. I do. A single adult human male of three same... They're so popular, those classifieds. Karma for all New York City parents fighting their human resource, their HRs. Yes, I gotcha. Sharpton jingle. Sharpton jingle. Oh, we should do a resist then. Hold on. I didn't see that one. Not a resist, a respect. That's what we want.

2:04:27 Oh my god, I have Corona, just so you know. I've COVID- He's got Corona! That's why I'm slow today. Got COVID. Got the Corona. Got the COOF. There we go. John Leszczynski from Wellington, Florida 21058. Greetings Adam and John, I make this donation on behalf of my father Michael Leszczynski. Uh, in honor of his birthday today, I hit him in the mouth back in 2016. He's been an avid listener since. I request a de-douching for him as well as goat karma. You've been de-douched. You've got karma.

2:05:18 And nearing the end here, we've got Rebecca Jilka, I think, from Salt Lake City, Utah. 2-10-19 in the morning. John and Adam, happy anniversary to my smoking hot boyfriend, Steven Streeter. February 10th marks three years together, and they never had a fight. Steven, I love you madly, but I've got to call you out as a douchebag. I gotta call you a douchebag for listening so long without donating. Please de-douche me. Oh yes, of course. You've been de-douched. Wait a minute, then credit half the donation to him and de-douche him.

2:05:58 I'll do it, but I think you should keep that douche all over him personally. You've been de-douched. Not how it should really go. Steven hit me in the mouth some time ago on one of our many road trips. Unfortunately, he didn't turn me on to the show before COVID, so I was temporarily swept up in the lies of MSM. Thanks a lot, babe. But it wasn't too long after the world went crazy that he introduced me, and after a few episodes I was hooked. If the show falls on a travel day, we promise each other to save it for the car. Aww. Thank you for supplying us with the entertainment and conversation topics during our long drives. By the way, my 14-year-old son also enjoys the show, of course. It's been very good for my kids to learn how to spot the lies in the media and at school. Wow, we never had that before, did we, John? Where the kids had to spot the lies at school.

2:06:49 It's probably there anyway. Is it just all lies? This is a must for kids these days for helping us with this. Thank you very much. I'm so grateful. Jingles Boom Shakalaka Little Girl China's A-hole get vaccinated and no. Any car mess to go with that? No. Boom Shakalaka. Boom Shakalaka. Boom Shakalaka. Get vaccinated. No. No. Now we go on to Joseph Sernal in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. I'm going to skip that because I can't find his email, but it's $200 from him and we'll look for it. This is Deaton in Dayton.

2:10:02 You know what, so Tina, because we were supposed to do a show yesterday, Tina posts like, oh, you know, Adams, the podcast are down, Adams got the Rona. And instead of people like, oh man, are you okay? No, instead I get a million goat gifs, goat gifs on the Twitter, screaming goats. No one asked you if you're okay anymore with this stuff. None of our people do. Of course not! They're not stupid. It's a weak point. I think they should be more concerned. I got COVID, man. So we got a late donation from Sir Dude... well he's not a dude yet but he will be. It says Mike and this came in this morning. Do you remember what we're talking about here, John? Just checking.

2:10:51 Yes, this donation came in at 8.45. The show really begins at 8. Pacific time. You're supposed to send these notes in before midnight, the night before. You don't send them in during, what amounts to during the show and expect them to be read. I just happened to catch it by accident and I asked Adam if he wanted to read this note because it is a nighting and it could have, would have normally been pushed off to the next show. It came in with a $50 donation and it was just, it was, I mean, And then I realize that we haven't bitched about this midnight deadline for probably six months. Yeah, people need to know. They need to know. So give everybody... Don't want to say these notes. Could you please give everybody the guideposts? The guidepost is when the clock strikes 12 in the Pacific time region, midnight. That's it. It's over. The show is already done. Put to bed. You're done. You're done. Yeah.

2:11:50 But it was, he becomes a knight today and so we thought that would be the right thing to do. In the morning gents, I'll please ask for a de-douching since I've never asked for one. You've been de-douched. Check it out, I've been listening since John was still welcome on Twit. What? Wow man, ice age. Thank you guys for the 14 years of sanity. Here's to many more. I wish to be known as Sir Dude Name Mike of Not That Paris and I humbly request double doubles and Belgian triple at the round table. You got it man. Love is lit. Sir Dude Name Mike, though he'll be Sir Dude Name Mike of Not That Paris. Anyone want a couple of jingles? Whole load. Fouchy wheeze and Lady MacDuff. I'm gonna give you the whole load today.

2:12:38 So I mean that is the land of unconfirmed. Yes, we came we saw he died You've got karma And that's it I think that's all we have thanked everybody we need to thank these people are Executive producers and associate executive producers of episode 1424. These are credits that are real. If you go anywhere where credits are recognized, these will be accepted. Just look at IMDB and look up Noah Jenna Executive Producer. You'll see how many Hollywood bigwigs actually have been awarded these titles. And it's something you could put onto your resume. It's not really an award. It's something you've earned.

2:13:27 Yeah, I said awarded. Yeah, okay earned. Yes. I'm sorry earned good point if you too would like to earn this Go to this website to learn more to vorac.org Slash and a thank you all for bringing your time talent and treasure to episode 1424 Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth So harsh. So I have a Biden clip going in and I have this some information about the America competes act. What's that? America competes act. It's an American, well from the sounds of it, it's obviously something that will take away our competition. Or sounds like something that will strengthen our competition by making us crap. Yeah.

2:14:30 But first I want to do these Biden clips because it still bothers me, as you know, that I am irked by Biden's just casual saying... Not a joke? Yes, exactly. So I got it. First, let me play this clip. So this is about Biden and his competition. I want to make some comments on this before I get into the no joke and then the American competition. This is the short clip. Twenty nine seconds. Biden made in America. We've heard this. This clip came out last week and I want to say something about it. There's a law that's existed for a long time. It has too many exceptions like this one had. And that is that

2:15:12 by America. As President of the United States, I award contracts and I'm now making the case and we're working. It's one of the reasons those jobs are up is unless the product I'm purchasing for the American people was made in America and all of its component parts were made in America, we ain't buying it. You see the problem here? Can I insert one little thing about that before you continue? Please. The tests that you ordered probably have not received yet from the government, the free test, right? Yes. You didn't get them yet, did you? No, no, still. Do you know what these tests are? I have no idea. Made in China.

2:16:01 I'm not... so if the government sends you something to stick up your nose and it comes from China, how stupid do you have to be? Well, I would think what brought to... what was brought to mind by that clip when he said it is that... was another clip we played probably, I don't know, two or three shows ago, moaning and groaning about the semiconductor shortage and we were told that as of now Only 10% of all the semiconductors in this country are made in this country.

2:16:40 How does everything have to be made in this country when we only make 10% of the semiconductors which are in everything? Semiconductors are in the cars, the refrigerators, everything. It's a smoke screen. You know, the radio is your alarm clock, the computers I'm using here, everything's got semiconductors in it. It's a smoke screen. Except for a stick of wood or a round ball and that probably took a semiconductor to make. So how does that work? It's a smokescreen. I'm telling you, it's a smokescreen to pretend to... Of course it's bullcrap. We have nothing to buy. We barely make anything, sadly. All right. I just want to get your answer. Before I get to the long version of this same... came from the same clip, but this is where... and I'm saying, what do I have to do to make these clips make sense? I'm going to have to sweeten them by hand.

2:17:32 So it makes some sense when you listen to the flow of things. And this is the example I've put together, and I'm gonna probably start doing this routinely. You tell me if you think I shouldn't do it. Oh, sorry. Ready? Yeah. Is unless the product I'm purchasing for the American people was made in America, and all of its component parts were made in America, we ain't buying it. We're just simply not buying it. And what's gonna happen here Not a joke. It's a fact. It's not a violation of any international laws either. What we're talking about here, with three exceptions I won't bore you with and they're highly unusual. With three exceptions, every single project that we're talking about is paid for with federal dollars and it's a federal project. It's going to be union jobs. Every single one of them.

2:18:30 All right, union jobs. Last time we tried it, there were so many exceptions. I think only 19, 20 jobs. There are going to be thousands, thousands of people put to work. Not a joke. I mean, this is serious. And guess what? The American public is going to be safer and it's going to be cheaper. Well, since it's your actual peeve about him saying not a joke. Yeah, that's OK, but. To get a better laugh, that's a cartoon laugh. Yeah, it's like a... I recognize. Maybe a woman.

2:19:07 You need a variety. Okay. How about Camelot? Put Camelot's laugh in there. Now that's a laugh. Oh, that's an interesting thought. Okay, I'll work on it. I will improve this. So do we have these exceptions? Do you have any info on that? No, not yet, but you know what they are. Yes, I know exactly what they are. Anything that is not made in this country is... Impractical or inconsistent with public interest, non-availability, or unreasonable cost. Yeah, there you go. Which is everything. It's everything. Of course, it's a total bullcrap once again. So let's go to the American Competes Act.

2:19:45 and understand what this might be about. This is part one. New in town, the House today approved legislation that lawmakers say will help ease the supply chain crisis and curb mass retail thefts. The measure is called the America Competes Act. If passed, it would require online marketplaces to verify the identities of sellers and collect information from them like a government ID and tax It would also require sellers to attest that their products are authentic and would hold them liable for certain violations. Wow! Do we get to request the same from our representatives? Make sure no one's sleeping with China? Or has China driving them or in their office? I'm asking you, what has this got to do with competition? Nothing. The American Competes Act says, we want your ID. Yeah, we want your ID. And by the way, Etsy.

2:20:38 You got an Etsy? You're gonna have to prove, show your ID. Yeah. Nice. eBay. This is control. It's a critical control mechanism. Oh no, it's for competition. It's a competitive act. Let's listen to part two of this. The legislation also takes steps to try and ease some of the supply chain problems and shortages caused by the pandemic. The bill puts $45 billion towards strengthening supply chains and $52 billion to boost manufacturing of semiconductors in the U.S. A shortage of computer chips, most of them made overseas, has led to higher prices for electronics, cars and medical devices. The House bill would also put tariffs on more Chinese goods, eliminating an exemption for products worth under $800. Okay, I still don't see it. So it's a giveaway. There's some money because you know, these semiconductor companies, I don't know if you checked out the price of the stock price of AMD, which went from $3 to hundreds of dollars. Sure.

2:21:36 Let's give them some money so they can build some fabs over here because they don't have any money. They can't build their own fab with their own dime. So let's give them 50 million, 50 billion, sorry, dollars to help build the semiconductor plant. Oh please, these guys are crooked. And that takes forever? Yes it does. It takes years to go over this. You don't just pop a fab out of the ground. You know, they're building one here in Texas not far from us. I want to say Samsung? Do they do semiconductors? Yeah, they do. They're one of the leading semiconductor makers. They make non-volatile memory. They're almost the flash drives, the hard disks. They are, in essence, almost taking over the tiny town of Taylor, which is, I'd say from my house, about an hour and a half.

2:22:31 probably about 45 minutes north of Austin and that's where their new fab will be. 17 billion dollar semiconductor plant. Well, if only they didn't wait for the government money. Maybe they had foreknowledge. Yeah, of course. Let's play the third part of this clip. COVID-19 pandemic has taught us many hard lessons, including that we are far too dependent on other countries like China for critical goods and our national security. Just 30 some years ago, we were producing upwards of 40% of the world's chips. And today it's hovering almost at 10%.

2:23:16 The Senate passed its own economic bill on China eight months ago and now the House and Senate will have to resolve differences between the two. Yeah, so these bills are competing. So yeah, so get your check ID. That's gonna, that's a supply chain issue if you don't check ID. Of course, you check your ID slave. It's a major supply chain thing and then give money away. There you go. They fixed the problem. Tina comes home the other day and she says, you know, this monetary modern monetary theory like what and she knows who first introduced this and she's done all this research and she says I have a question about this and I said, you know what I'll ask John this because John is a fan of modern monetary theory, correct? Huge fan. Now you've always said we need to be pouring money in that doesn't seem to you said just on the last show seems to be going fine. Everything's good.

2:24:12 I have taken that stance, yes. So she says if we can create all these trillions and trillions of dollars, and this is a very normal question, why are we still paying taxes? Why are our taxes so high? And her conclusion is it's control. Yeah, and I have to say yes, there's absolutely no reason we should be paying taxes. I mean you could give, you could fix the whole racism debate. Here's a trillion dollars, Ados. We got more. Hey, that'd take two.

2:24:53 I mean seriously, what is the point of taxation when you can and it is accepted fiscal policy, I think it's fiscal policy, is modern monetary theory. You can just keep making the money and put it in. How does that jive with taxes? It doesn't. She's right. It's purely for control. Yep. Well that's disappointing. Why? Why is it disappointing? We're getting screwed by our government. Let's face it, you need to be controlled. Let's face it. Oh yeah, I really need to be controlled. It's true. It's true. All right. The Olympics, I got some Olympic stuff here. Have you watched any Olympic stuff? Yes, I have. Because I've watched literally three

2:25:42 freestyle jumps yesterday and that was it. And it's just so hilarious to see that. You may have watched the best of the Olympics by coincidence. What's so hilarious is to see that you know the the freestyle guys and then you look off to the right and there's these the nuclear stacks and the complete barren ground behind it. They really didn't do much. This is the first this is the first Winter Olympics in in the history of the games where all the snow is artificial. Wow, that's pretty good snow. Well, I don't know if it is because I've seen people, you know, that are expert skiers not, you know, doing as well as they should have. Or Schifrin or whatever name is that our superstar skier has fallen down twice in this crappy snow. But the whole thing is, it's pretty sad. I mean, there's no ratings, no one cares, there's no one talking about it. Have we even won a medal?

2:26:39 Yes, we finally won our first gold. How are the Dutch doing with speed skating? I haven't seen any. The Dutch have won more medals than we have, but... Yeah, they do speed skating. The Russians are the ones kicking gold and the Russians are kicking everyone's ass. There's not even Russians anymore. They're the ROC. They're not allowed to say Russia? It's still the Olymp... Not for Putin. Oh, geez. No, the ROC, which I think is the Republic of China, but you know they're not gonna do that in these games. ROC stands for the Russian Olympic Committee. Yes, correct. They can't be Russians. And they're kicking ass. That's unbelievable. Why do they even show up? I'm like, you know what? You know, screw you. We can't even be called Russia in these games.

2:27:23 I did watch a little curling yesterday, I have to be honest. Childish. Childish. I do like the curling. I like curling too. So let's listen to the... this is NPR's The Indicator, which is one of their little specials that are... you've got squeaky voice millennials giving us the news. No offense to our millennial producers. Well, no offense to the ones that aren't squeaky voiced, but here's an NPR indicator on the Olympics. The games are happening, but this is a really unusual year and not just because of the pandemic. China, which is... Oh man, you're so right. This is, it's not the squeaky voice. It's the read. It's the intonation. It's the up and down to kind of, it makes it cutesy.

2:28:10 Cutie. Is that kind of the... The games are happening. But this is a really unusual year and not just because of the pandemic. Let me talk to you. This is a really unusual year. And not just because... China, which is hosting the Winter Games in Beijing, is facing a lot of criticism for its human rights record, its restrictions on the press, censorship of everyday citizens, and especially its treatment of Uyghurs. The U.S. State Department says the Chinese government is carrying out genocide. It's forcing people to live in detention camps, forcing Uyghur women to undergo abortions, and forcing them to undergo sterilization.

2:28:53 And because of that, a number of countries, including the US, Britain, and Canada have declared diplomatic boycotts. And it's against this tense backdrop of politics and human rights issues that businesses, you know, the Olympics corporate sponsors, they're trying to keep a low profile. Usually when you watch the Olympics on TV, there would be tons of ads, but this year has been relatively quiet. Sponsors are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they pump up their sponsorship, they risk alienating some American consumers. And in fact, last summer, a congressional hearing called on American businesses to withdraw their sponsorship of the Olympics.

2:29:30 On the flip side, if businesses speak out against the Chinese, they risk losing China's almost one and a half billion customers, which is like about four Americas. I'm Shelly Hirscheps. And I'm Adrian Ma. Today's indicator is $200 million. That's around how much it costs to become an Olympic sponsor. Today on the show, how do you navigate when you know no matter what you do, you're going to lose? Wow! 200 million dollars? Oh, what a jip! They didn't get any of that value this time around.

2:30:07 Who are the sponsors? Nike? I've seen Nike logos. That's about it. Coca-Cola still. Coca-Cola, yeah. And they said later, I guess there's some sort of one of these kind of extortion deals. You know about these where you said, no, well, if you drop out of these, I know it's costing you money. You're maybe not getting your money's worth, but then you won't be able to get any other ones in the future. And so they pull that stunt. Right. This is reminiscent of the Jay Leno brought this out on one of his car shows about how Ferrari is now at the point whoever's managing the company that you can't buy the Ferrari you want until you own a couple other junkier ones. Oh yeah, you have to be in the club, you have to be a valued customer. Yeah, so this is not working. I don't know if you want to listen to any more of these. Sure I do.

2:30:59 Yeah, okay, let's go a part two and if this one doesn't jack up a bit I'm gonna kill it. For athletes, the Olympics is one of the biggest events in the world. And you know what? It is the same thing for advertisers. You're talking about one of the most recognizable brands in the world. Scott Rosner is an industry consultant and he's advised brands from Adidas to the NFL. And he says to get ready for the Olympics, brands have signed deals, written contracts and spent hundreds of millions of dollars on rights and ad campaigns. Okay, we know what you get if you're an athlete and you win the Olympics. Undying glory, unamazing medal, maybe the best feeling in the world. But what do you get if you're an Olympic sponsor? At its baseline, what you're talking about are those five interlocking rings.

2:31:47 You're talking about the right to call yourself an official sponsor of whatever games you're talking about, right? You're an Olympic sponsor. Those in and of themselves, while some people will snicker at that, those are incredibly valuable pieces of intellectual property. Yeah. We're not talking about like a small local event, right? We're talking about one of the biggest sporting events in the world. Games only happen every four years, and practically the whole world tunes in at some point. So sponsoring the Olympics can cost hundreds of millions of dollars. But it can be worth it. Coca-Cola has been a sponsor since 1928, and it's back again this year. And you've also got companies like Panasonic, Toyota, and Visa. But this year, sponsors are faced with making this impossible choice. Who do you keep happy?

2:32:39 It's hard to be a global brand and avoid China. Scott says on one side of the equation, there's America. And within that, you've got three groups of people that you're trying not to upset. Do you risk angering some of your American customers who are maybe questioning your ethics? But you also don't want to anger customers who would be furious if you pulled sponsorships for an event that supports hardworking American athletes. I kind of like this topic because It goes along with the destruction of Hollywood and influencers and how broadcast television is falling apart. I would say advertising interrupted content, which is what the Olympics is, unless you have the peacocks or you're paying for it's a peacock some other way. I'm not even sure if they have all the multi channels like they used to. I believe the Olympics will never recover. I think people are sick of this shit.

2:33:36 They're sick of the dumbness. They're sick of the just everything about it. They're sick of it. They're sick. They're sick of professional sports in general. It's just become no one wants to watch live television anymore with ads. And let's say like the Super Bowl. I think that that would that to me truly is where the ads are the star. The ads for the Olympics are not stars and not like, oh my God, did you see that ad? No. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. I'm not in full agreement with it because I think people can be talked into anything, but these ads, just complaining about them, I think it's... I don't know why anybody goes to a live event to watch professional sports. You go to a live event and they stop the show.

2:34:32 At the event. They don't show you the ad. There's no reason. They stop so the ads can run and they stop everything. Stop play. Yeah. And so you're sitting there and you're wondering, wait a minute, this game was getting pretty good. Why is everyone... And it's not just for 30 seconds, for a 30 second ad. It's for a two minute block. And first you got to get out of the into the block so that stops play and then they and then they play the ads to two and a half minutes where the ads where you sit there doing nothing twiddling your thumbs. Then they bring the players back under the court because the ads are over and they got to start play again. It's like

2:35:12 It just ruins the game. I mean, I've been to football games where I won't go to a professional. People have asked me, hey, we got some seats over here at the game. You want to come? No. So the football team, the football play stops. I thought it was like timeouts and stuff. But if they're not back from commercial, then they hold, they keep the play suspended? No, what they do, they have a, it's called official timeouts and they have the, there's one referee supposedly on the field and he has a yellow flag or something, he holds it up. It's never shown on the television but once he does that, and it's usually between plays, normally you stop the game from commercials after a punt, after a kickoff,

2:35:53 But if there's no punts or kickoffs and the game's going on too long and usually you can also stop it when one team calls a timeout. Those are all, okay great, this is great. So there's a ref who you never see on TV who can call a timeout when they need it for the commercial break. Exactly. I always wonder what Matt Lauer was doing these days. All that route. It's like a long drive through Tipperary. Jesus. We have a few people to thank, starting with Colleen Garrett in Cary, North Carolina for $100.

2:36:43 Kevin Fagerberg, I'm not sure, in Lincoln, Nebraska, 100. Rob Van Dyke, Sir Rob, 100, he's in Holland. Michael Gaston, 100. Adrian Dannemeier in Boston, Massachusetts, 100. Pete Federici in Dallas, Texas 8008. Which brings us to Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna and lover of America and lover of boobs. Yes. In Concord, North Carolina, 8008. Also Kevin Primo.

2:37:20 I'm guessing, in New Port Richey, Florida 8008. And listen to what he says because it's contagious. I love your show. Love the boob guy. I love boobs! My wife and I have listened for the past year. Don't bother reading on air. Okay. He loves the boob. He loves the boob guy. That is Sir Kevin McLaughlin. You got the lover of America and boobs and you've got the lover of the guy who's the lover of America and boobs. Yeah, this is meta. Meta. Recursive. Something. I don't know. Exactly. Yeah, recursive. It's getting recursive. Adam Reed in Labrador, Queensland. 5566 or Tom Dari in DeForest, Wisconsin. 5510. Dame Nancy of the Confused. She thinks she's in San Bruno, California. She doesn't know. 5244. Teresa Stodheim in Plymouth, Minnesota. 5150. Mike

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2:39:13 David Schoeninger in Woodbridge, Virginia. See what he says there. He's got an incredible... Oh, he's about the normalization of teenagers having heart issues. This is the new thing. It's on buses. It's everywhere. You know, teenagers get heart attacks all the time. It's always been that way. Nothing new, but we just want to let you know now that, you know, don't worry if your kid has a heart attack. It's normal. Normal. Yeah. I remember when I was a kid, Everyone had a heart attack. Nobody had a heart attack. Okay. You had a heart attack. You died on the job at your union job, yeah? You died with a hammer in your hand. Good paying union job. Yeah, not from just going to school. Jesse Hall in Friendswood, Texas. Edward Mazurek, Sir Edward in Memphis, Tennessee. Ashley Ferreira, who's also got a birthday coming up.

2:40:09 I think he's come up in the conversation before in Wisconsin. Jason Deluzio, Sir Jason in Miami Beach, William Dolgay in Bristolville, Ohio is our last guy and you want to thank all these people for supporting show 1424 and making it all possible. Yeah, we have a couple of make goods people try to get your notes in properly because it just slows everything down This is past Patrick master Masterson Was think exact on the executive producer on the floor and the pre-con speaking dust on the previous episode. I I have COVID, John. I'm getting towards the end here.

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2:42:35 Of course you do. How many... Oh, John, oh. You can't use a bunch of emojis. It's not right. Like, you know, fist up, hand clap, wave, hug, you know, eggplant, all that stuff. It's too much. It's just too much. But thank you to these producers, also everyone who came in under $50 to remain anonymous, but also our multiple subscription options that you have. That is for sustaining donations and they're very much appreciated. Thank you to everybody and of course our execs and associate executive producers. Find out more over here. Devorak.org slash N-A. Just make sure everybody has the jobs they need, the karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

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2:45:37 No one should know meetup. Meetup. Written report from the Fraser Valley slaves meetup from Sir Dude Named Kelly and Dame Sarah of the Fraser Valley. The meetup in Abbotsford, British Columbia on January 29th was a huge success. We doubled our numbers from the last meetup with 14 slaves in attendance. The group included a Dame, three knights, and the Baron of British Columbia. Hello! You got the trifecta there. Many attendees have been long-time listeners of the show. Thank you to all who attended with a special shout out to Erica for the longest distance traveled. How long did she travel?

2:46:19 Everybody had a great time and we are all looking forward to the next one. Thank you for all your courage and to Adam and John for keeping it real. So do Dame Kelly and Dame Sarah of the Fraser Valley. We also have a report from the February 6th Tucson, Arizona meetup. What's shaking, Gitmo Nation? I'm here in Tucson from Philly, vibing with my tribe at the old father in my old neighborhood where I went to high school. Here's the crew. I'm Ryan, keep it real. Hashtag Vince's mom. This is David hanging. Hey Adam F Ricky Rackman and John F Laporte. This is Surly Mofos, stay dangerous. This is Amy from Aver Valley. In the morning! All right, nice. Always good to have everybody hanging out together for a meetup and you can do that on Friday tomorrow the 11th at the North Idaho Emergency Meetup 530 p.m. at the House of Scott in Post Falls, Idaho.

2:47:17 On Saturday the Crossroads of America ITM tribal gathering three o'clock at Bering Beringer's Tavern in Indianapolis, Indiana. On Monday the Valentine's Day skating meetup of love six o'clock at Rivergate Skate Center in Madison, Tennessee. The Duke of the South, Sir Patrick Coble, he's arranging and the curry in the keeper or Koof in the keeper will be in attendance. I will let you know if I am negative and you probably don't want to kiss me anyway. Not that the keeper likes that thing happening in general. I'm reliably informed.

2:47:53 We also have a ton of meetups for the rest of February and already into March. You can find all of this at the producer-organized noagendameetups.com website. It is a great place for you to connect with human resources wherever you are in the world. That's the best part of it. You need that human contact and community, especially in these days. It's a complete judgment-free type of deal. You'll love it. You'll have a good time. It's always like a party. If you'd like to find one, go to noagendameetups.com. If you don't find one there, start one. It's easy. Okay, I do have a couple of ISOs.

2:48:53 I have some from my best source. From your what? Best source. Oh, your best source. Okay. Lay it on me. Okay, well let's do it. I got one... Your best source is that Sophia show. Yeah. Like Slap Me Daddy, what's it called? No, no, that's the old show. Her show is just Sophia with an F. Oh, okay. And all she talks about is, well, sex. Yeah. Uh, try ISO state dumb. You're trying to make a statement and it just looks dumb. Too long. I like the millennial sound but it's way too long. Uh, let's go with ISO hi-yo. Hey everyone, thank you so much for wowing with us this week.

2:49:45 No, no, these are too long, John. We need snappy shit, man. Oh, okay. Well, let's go short. Oh, see, you set me up for this, didn't you? Give it- show him the boots, show him the sneakers, and now what, you're making me buy the pumps? Here we go. I so sad. Sad. Blatantly sad and embarrassing. Yeah. Also- Okay. Also a tad long. It's two seconds. Okay, let's drop it to one second then. Dumb. Hold on. And it just looks dumb.

2:50:22 Okay, let's see if you'd like any of mine. Stounding. Come on, man. Come on. That's not bad. We have this one. And it's so juicy. Come on, man. These are good. Wait, we have more. That last one reminds me of how does this guy, what's his name? The intern Ross, the intern. Oh, where is Ross the intern? What happened to Ross? He's working full-time on the show with, what's her name, one of the daytime talkers, the woman, what's her last name, she's got the... Barrymore. He's on the Drew Barrymore show being Ross the intern talking about Hollywood gossip. Drew Barrymore has a show? Yeah, she's had a show for a couple years.

2:51:16 Man, it actually is. It's not one of the best daytime talkers, but it's funny because she's so predictable. She's just like in tears when she has to talk. All right, so I think that's a contender. So juicy. More from that. Like the other one is actually better. The Astounding. Play that one again. Well, I got more, but I'll play Astounding for you. Astounding. That's pretty unique from Amy. But wait a minute. I have a couple more. Love it. Hmm and then and then the one that that oops I got it jack that sound up here hold on a second What happened to my levels people check this out the science has changed? Yeah So I like to juicy the best Let's double-check and it's so juicy come on man. That's nothing You win you actually have three you beat all mine. I'm sorry yeah I

2:52:16 Okay, I have one clip... one last clip for me. I have lots but I'm tired. I have a bunch of clips but I want to play two of them. Okay, because I'm really tired now. Yeah, you are. So I just want to get this out of the way because even Mimi was all over this. Oh my god! The Daily Mail. They're giving away crack pipes! Yes, this is quite the meme-able mission they're on with this one. Yeah, I think there's some truth to it, but there's an official denial and this is it. Oh. What's the clip I'm looking for? Crack pipes. That would make sense.

2:52:56 The White House wants to make it very clear a new grant program aimed at lowering drug overdose deaths does not include the distribution of crack pipes. And BRZ's Roscoe reports the $30 million program will provide items such as fentanyl test strips and clean syringes, along with support for medical services to drug users. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki says that some reports about the grant program have been inaccurate. She said that misinformation has overshadowed the true purpose of the grants. We're losing an American life every five minutes to overdose. We don't have time for political games. The president's focused on saving lives through harm reduction programs. That's exactly what we're talking about here. They work in red states and they work in blue states. We know they save lives. Some Republican lawmakers accused the White House of encouraging drug use. Florida Senator Marco Rubio said he plans to introduce legislation that will quote, prevent the federal government from supplying crack pipes or other similar items.

2:53:53 If I were to guess, I would say that the crackpite meme was very... Someone created that, someone in a PR firm, someone who knew what they were doing, someone said, let's turn this into this. Yeah, could be. Do we know the genesis though? Because it was, I think Tucker Carlson was blasting it. It was one of those viral things that hit like a ton of bricks. Yeah, but who did it? Who started with the crackpite? I don't know. We don't know. Yeah. That's... Well, let me guess who it was. It was the White House. And the crack pipes were in play. How about that for a theory? And they backed off, they backpedaled. How about that? Is that possible? It's very possible. I like that. But the whole thing is, I mean, even the White House, certainly, unless, unless, ooh, how about this? What if it's actually someone in the White House who started this crack pipes?

2:54:50 to furthermore give more ammunition to the Republicans to call out the president's son, crackpike Hunter Biden. There seems to be some connection because everyone who does the crackpike pipe story on TV... Yeah, of course, always, ha ha ha, there's Hunter. They bring Hunter into the picture. Yeah. And it could be White House personnel because I think a lot of them don't like Hunter. or the fact that he's hanging over everyone's head. It's like, we're not going to get, or the Democrats themselves, look, we're not going to do very well in these midterm elections if we don't do something about this Hunter thing. Let's fess up and get it out of the way. You got to do it sooner than later. You can't let it just sit there and fester. Maybe.

2:55:35 But for sure, you know, when you see that going around, I'm like, okay, why don't you show me where it actually says crack pipe? And of course it doesn't say that. No, Rubio's the one who said it. I have something about the White House that may or may not play into this. This is a report from Bloomberg. It's not great. But we have something that seems to be a change in. I feel like this is legislative whack-a-mole that we're playing today. But honestly, that's what it feels like in Washington, D.C. with the Democrats and the various issues that you're trying to cater to. And this brings us to where President Biden's going to be today at 2.30 p.m. when he actually meets with the head of utilities to try to talk about Build Back Better. I mean, come on, what's going on? Are they actually going to break this off and do something with it? Or is this just another one of the issues to put into whack-a-mole Congress?

2:56:23 So Lisa, I doubt he's even going to utter the words build back better. I think there's been a tactical shift at the White House to not actually use that term anymore, but just talk about the issues. Bullshit. No, I think it's true. I'm gonna track it was all kinds of reports that they're they're softening back on build back better they don't want to use that they wanted I don't know if they're gonna rebranded but I think it's true that they're there backing off a bill back better because the whole thing failed. It was supposed to go into total destruction of everything so they could build back better. And the potential chunks that were originally supposed to be part of that legislation that they can see get through because Senator Manchin has said how many times that legislation as one cohesive piece of legislation is dead. Yeah I think that's really so build back better that that's that's how it has to get killed because that's what the bill is. What are you drinking?

2:57:18 Pellegrino, Arancia and Fico d'India. Prost. The Build Back Better bill is dead and so they have to pull that apart and they've tainted their own bill. No, I agree with that. I'm not arguing that point. I'm just doubting that Biden has the wherewithal to stop saying it. Oh, well, that'll be embarrassing. Joe, it's called New Horizons. We've changed it from Build Back Better. Build Back Horizons. No joke. Anything else? You said you had two clips. This is kind of just an informational clip about the cassette business's booming. Did you know that? The cassette business? No.

2:58:05 Between streaming services and digital downloads there are so many ways to listen to music in quality. So why would anybody still buy cassette tapes? They're known for being scratchy and hissy and way less cool than vinyl. Hear that fast forward sound? Well, that's what happened to the cassette tape business. Right now we're selling every inch of tape we make before it comes off the line. That's Steve Stepp of the National Audio Company in Springfield, Missouri. We are the largest manufacturer of the raw cassette tape and of duplicated audio cassettes in the world.

2:58:44 The 2014 sci-fi movie Guardians of the Galaxy helped the cassette tape comeback. It featured Chris Pratt blasting alien bad guys while listening to an old mix tape. But the cassette market was already trending upward by then and sales have increased by double digits every year since 2017. Step says his company sold about 25 million cassettes last year. And the market is not one that you would suspect. It isn't old geezers like me. It's the under 35 age group buying audio cassettes now. Right beside me I have tapes, tapes, tapes, tapes. That's Lars Gottrich of NPR Music. He's one of those young old people who's a fan of cassette tapes. His home is stuffed full of them. So this is Lady F. Fear. She is Oakland-based rapper.

2:59:35 This is a Polish black metal artist whose name I can't pronounce. He thinks cassettes are appealing because you can hold them in your hand. A whole new generation has embraced these little spools of sound. I'm talking about Generation Z, this is the generation after me. And the way The way that I think Generation Z thinks about nostalgia is not something that has passed, but that is something that can be claimed for the first time. So it is still incredibly fresh to them. Ah, well, that's cute. And it's exactly the right response. I never thought of it. It's cute.

3:00:15 And it's interesting because, you know, I have the wall of fame with Tina hung up all my stuff. Yeah. Every single gold or platinum record I have, it includes a gold or platinum cassette tape in the actual award. So it's the album and then a little cassette tape. So now I'm hip again. That's right, everybody. Hey, kids. Hey, look, those cassette tapes? I got gold ones. That's right. Collect them all. All right, uh, see you Sunday. We'll be back. I will have another Rona report, but I think I'll be okay. Just weary and... You should be good. You should be good by tomorrow. Yeah, no, I think so too. Long live the blister pack, man. Goes the Virto kit. No matter what it is. That helped.

3:01:14 And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No. 6, good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's becoming quite nice out, 70, 80 degrees maybe if we're lucky and it's I don't know. I wish everyone else was getting this kind of weather. I'm John C. Dvorak, by the way. Coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com, Up is Down, episode 123, end of show mixes from Jeremy Cartwright and Tom Starkweather, who now has a podcast, Melodious Owls on Value for Value, podcasting 2.0. Check that out. And remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until Sunday, adios, cibofos and such.

3:02:03 We know the way through this pandemic is by getting everyone vaccinated. Small fringe minority following the science. Now we hear these horns going all night long. Yet protesters are demanding to be heard. Driving us crazy.

3:02:38 The sound is deafening all day long and at all hours of the night. I haven't slept in three days. We know the way through this pandemic. Then it stops when the government lifts the mandates. When you want to change something in history, there's always going to be some uncomfortableness involved in that. The harking will continue.

3:03:17 Someone makes a different choice about whether or not they are vaccinated. That's their right. and this government is going to respect that right. It's time for us also to heal the divisions in our communities over vaccination. Those divisions are in our families, they're yes, they're in our communities, but they are across our province and they're across this nation. Let's not judge our neighbour because they may be vaccinated or because they may not be vaccinated. It's time for each of us as individuals now to make a conscious effort to treat everyone in our daily lives that we encounter equally.

3:03:53 It's also time for the proof of vaccination mandate to end. So effective at midnight this Sunday, February the 13th, all provincial proof of vaccination requirements will end. Let's work together to heal some of the divisions. Let's understand that we can forgive our friends, our family members, maybe even ourselves if that is necessary. As we move forward and we truly want to get back to normal, we shouldn't be dwelling or focusing in on what other people's decisions are. We all need to make an extra effort to understand and respect everyone's right to make their own decisions.

3:04:29 There's been divisions in our communities. The convoys came up. We have convoys literally in every province, from my understanding, across the nation. We have borders that are being blocked at multiple areas. And these are for, in a large part, people that want these divisions ultimately to go away. The only thing that would prevent us from achieving all that we can be is for us to be arguing amongst ourselves. Let's come together as friends. Let's not lose a friend due to this virus. Let's come together as family. Let's not lose a family relationship. Regardless of what conversations have occurred over the last number of months, as we look ahead, let's come together as a community within a great province and achieve what we know we can achieve. The opportunity is there for us. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. And it's so juicy!