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00:00 I'm a podcaster, damn it! Not a TikToker. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak And Sunday July 11th 2021 this is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media assassination episode 1363 This is no agenda Hi my Legos and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country FEMA region number 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley Hey we're fogged in again how about that? I'm John C. Dvorak Oh man, show day. Exciting day! So much going on we're all watching Richard Branson... oh he didn't die damn it Richard Branson just got back from space yeah he was doing like a FaceTime from the plane yeah it looked very much like a really dumb Disney ride

00:57 What did you accomplish Richard? Billionaires wasted a lot of money that could have gone to feeding the poor. Actually, I have a happen to have two clips about this today. Check this out Down to the wire as Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic showcases the final preps for its spaceship on Sunday flying 25000 feet before release Then rocketing to the Kármán line that marks the edge of space. NASA and the Air Force say that line is 50 miles high Virgin test pilots have already climbed 256 miles But now, the Bezos team is tweeting That only their rocket will climb 62 miles high The internationally recognized Kármán Line And their passenger astronauts won't have an asterisk by their names By the way they have bigger windows to gaze at the Earth

01:56 Blue Origin uses a rocket, Virgin Galactic uses a space plane with 17 windows. They are literally complaining about or comparing the features of this ride Oh he got more windows on this one! Oh you only get an asterisk if you fly with Branson means that you're not a real astronaut You're a plane-tronaut Or something like that You know, the rich have...the super-rich. We're talking about people that can just throw away a quarter of a million dollars on the joyride. They've got enough trouble with Warren going after them for billionaire's tax and all the rest. They're gonna end up with their heads on a stick if they keep this crap up

02:42 There's homeless in San Francisco that are just crawling all over the place and pooping in the streets. These are the same a-holes they're gonna go up on these rockets I'm telling you this is this is bad publicity for anyone who takes one of these rides This is stupid Do you think there's any climate change issue with these rockets do they? Consider it just thinking about it for a moment It has to personally that I'd like all billionaires to go in space and stay there. Yes! This was a funny report though, this is short one from CNBC and it...and I didn't at first I was like whoa then it took me just a really bad prompt to read but see if you can catch what I caught

03:21 Blue Origin uses a rocket, Virgin Galactic uses a space plane with 17 windows. If he was here he would argue that his experience is better than ours and I can give you lots of reasons why we think our experiences are better than his but they're both valid Bezos launches on the 20th bringing along one-time female NASA astronaut candidate Wally Funk. I want to say honey that was the best thing ever happened to me! Did you hear that? The one-time female? Yeah, that's what I heard. What was it a transtronaut? No she is only one time female. She is the female one time. Listen again... That was the time you well you know what happened It was Mexico! It was The Donkey Show! What can I say? Bringing along one-time female NASA astronaut candidate Wally Funk. See its one-time female NASA candidate astronaut but he said the MV punched female like what?!

04:16 Bringing along one-time female... Female?! Anyway, but it's yeah I think your thesis is right. They're idiots this is not a good look No, not with homeless in the streets. They got a situation this is just let me just take a quarter of a million of my dollars that I could just give to a food bank and I'm going to go up in space for five minutes and come back down and check off something off my box or I'm gonna brag about it at the country club This is not gonna work out for these guys It's just not going to work out. It has nothing but bad news written all over it and the idea that this is gonna become an industry which both Branson and Bezos seem to think, it's nuts! There's got to be a lot of cash in the system people just don't know what to do with their money anymore do they? Well there is a lot of cash in the system yeah and then the government's not helping by pumping in an extra trillion or two

05:18 Yeah, well... Doesn't seem to be doing any good. Still potholes in 80s! I hit one the other day and almost broke the car. Meanwhile they're pooping in the streets of San Francisco where's all this money going? Shoot man do we have the pooping in the streets didn't we have a poopin' in the street jingle or something? Poopin' in the streets, poopin' in the streets Everybody is poopin', they are poopin' in the streets And then there's nothing better when you're pooping on the streets in San Francisco Okay, that's going in the end of show bin I think we have to add that to today's mix don't you okay?

06:13 Yes, so while that's happening the technocratic government or administration I should say the Technocratic Biden Administration is just not being bashful and I appreciate that. And I appreciate them just saying what they feel and letting you know right in your face this is how it's going to go down and this clip I think It surfaced around Friday. Xavier Becerra, he's the Health and Human Services Secretary Now you'd think a health and human services secretary might have a medical background or some kind of study? It's not a requisite I guess but isn't that kinda normal? Or is this just administrator? I don't know what's normal Okay

07:07 Well, he was a lawyer and he worked. He was elected to the California State Assembly and then I think he was Attorney General for California. Yeah. Vice Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus You know, this is a career politician and he's from California so that equals douchebag. And he's now in charge of all the health and human services within the government and he went on and talked about knocking on doors door to door

07:43 that President Biden announced to make sure everybody knows where they can get their vaccine. This is polarizing for American citizens who don't like lists, don't want to be on a list, don't want to put on lists The census is polarizing enough And here's what he said, he was just coming out and saying that this is how it's going down. Growing concerns over the fast spreading Delta variant the Biden administration's new efforts to knock on doors to encourage more Americans to get vaccinated is not without criticism from some on the right Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw tweeting How about don't knock on my door? You are not my parents you're the government make the vaccine available and let people be free to choose why is that concept so hard for the left

08:26 Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs tweeting, it's none of the government's business knowing who has or hasn't been vaccinated. Joining me now is Health and Human Services Secretary Javier Becerra who is helping in this effort to get Americans vaccinated. Sir thank you so much for being with us I wonder if you can answer that criticism? It's none of the government's business knowing who has or hasn't been vaccinated what do you say Brianna, perhaps we should point out that the federal government has had to spend trillions of dollars to try and keep Americans alive during this pandemic. So it is absolutely the government's business, it is taxpayers' business if you have to continue spending money to try and keep people from contracting COVID-19

09:09 helping reopen the economy. And so it is our business to try to make sure Americans can prosper, Americans can freely associate and knocking on a door has never been against the law you don't have to answer but we hope you do because if you haven't been vaccinated we can help dispel some of those rumors that you've heard and hopefully get you vaccinated I like that hey yeah we spent that money on you slaves shut up! We have every right to know That's a pretty funny roundabout way of going about it. Well, that was creative answer! He went a little bit further the first he launched something new which is a variation...a variant of stay safe and I don't know if this is you know these guys they'll hear slogan they read a slogan there in the meeting so maybe he's internalized that

09:58 And there's a twist to it. say yes I am vaccinated and proving it or at least having them attest to it. Well there are any number of ways to try to continue make progress and the president has demonstrated that he is open to moving in any direction we can help Americans get safe, be safe feel safe Get Safe Be Safe Feel Safe what do you think? Could it be new one they're working on?

10:44 Be safe, feel safe. Get safe, be... maybe! Well it could go like this It has a ring to it, has a nice cute cute ring to it. It could be an answer thing that people do on the street so you know I'll say hey get safe, be safe, feel safe and then you reply with stay safe Yeah, it works trying Ohio Hitler. It's safe be safe feel safe and so we'll continue to write Americans access we're gonna go where you are So that you can get vaccinated and will do everything We can and what we've done is allowed the states through our governors or mayors and county supervisors To determine how best to approach people in their neighborhoods all right, so here comes the kicker for me and

11:27 And this is, I think this is Breonna Taylor from CNN. And she keeps talking about shouldn't you model that? and I'm not quite sure what she means by that in this context but his answer is what the clip was really about So why not model, why not model that? I hear you saying leave it to local leaders. Leave it to governors. Why not at least model how you let people into an event? Well Breonna, you heard, uh, you read off some of the comments of some representatives in Congress and the-the that particular type of thinking is not It's out there and we want to give people a sense that they have the freedom to choose. But, we hope they choose to live and we're going to make it possible for them to have a good life. And by the way protect their family and loved ones at the same time. We hope people make the right choices. We want them to have the right information

12:20 We are America. We try to give people as much freedom and choice as possible, but clearly when over 600 thousand Americans have died The best choice is to get vaccinated. We we try to give you as much freedom as possible We're America! As much as I think he is God I mean, they're granting the American public with he is granting us rights. Yes yes with his little fairy godmother wand. We deem this be okay weeweeweewee yeah. Hope people make the right choices We want them to have the right information. We are America we try to give people as much freedom and choice. Weeweewee! Alright listen listen listen... We are America we try to give people as much freedom and choice as possible

13:13 The Constitution is literally made to restrict the government in restricting our rights. It's not the other way around, but that's the thinking! That's the thinking... We're in charge of these people? We shall grant them their rights when they can go if you need some rights well get the vaccine So the door-to-door thing is very exciting. In Woonsocket, Rhode Island the governor went out and helped knocking on doors. ...from state and local leaders to promote vaccine accessibility to communities across Rhode Island with low vaccination rates

13:52 The target on Wednesday, two housing complexes in one socket. Families living multi-generational tight quarters where if someone is COVID positive it's more likely than not they're going to pass it on to their other family members at the two pop up clinics on Wednesday residents could choose between Pfizer or a Johnson and Johnson vaccine even get a free covid test or box groceries for those who need leaders say they'll continue to do these outreach vaccine programs across the state all summer. The goal is to make certain that people get vaccinated, but also to let people know that we're all important. Today, the Rhode Island Health Department says nearly 57% of people in the Ocean State have been fully vaccinated. We have all the information on our website of where to get your vaccine just head to abc6.com

14:40 So it's being pushed real hard, done at the local level. Governor is getting in the game maybe that'll motivate some people? I don't know. You haven't heard anything like that out here. Anything like this governor is going to implement anything well we've got the high vaccination rates We've got the lockdown...we started the whole trend. Do you think California is going to be exempt from door-to-door knocking? There won't be knock around here Okay! It actually seems kind of serious to me I think this is just a test. This seems like a test for community policing The cops aren't going to be coming around knocking on doors, they're just gonna say well you know we're gonna defund the police and put a bunch of social workers out there doing this and that Let's see if they can just do THIS

15:33 Well, the thing that's bothersome... You're not getting punched in the face by the way. The thing that's bothersome is you know they have their scripts floating around and here's how you do it and its make sure you mark the person down if they're vaccinated or not vaccinated That's not just giving people information That's a census of-a medical census I mean what are these? When they come by the door I'll let you know But what do you say? Okay so when they come by the door What are you- Tell them to get lost! Well wouldn't you just say stay safe comrade That's what they say, right here yes. Comrade! Have you got the vaccination? Or uh I thought of one if someone said are you vaccinated oh man we just moved here from Ohio they already counted me so i would hate to be counted again. I'm already on the record there...I don't know. You're on their record there too. They're not coming around your neighborhood either okay

16:30 This is bullcrap. This is not happening! Okay, all right I mean yes in some places like Woonsocket where they make a big stink and the governor goes out for five minutes for a photo op and hi how you doing? I'm your governor did you get vaccinated or we have a Pfizer shot here for you if you don't blah blah blah And that's... yeah no Well, the M5M is also ratcheting up their propaganda and of course we need to target the black and brown communities. They're the ones that need... they are most hesitant. Before you continue if somebody does come around I've got the H4 ready i'm going to interview them. Okay deal! Deal deal deal. You can do the same. Ask them how long have had a job what they're getting paid? Here's the thing we need know

17:20 How long they had the job? What did they think? Hold on, hold on. Let's write this down everybody can do this it's not just you and me we've got thousands of producers who will be happy to do this whether they have an h4 or an H2 or an H1 or just your iPhone who gives a crap just use an iPhone that's fine well your smartphone doesn't matter yeah even pros use the iPhone. H4 what are you talking about boomer I don't think in terms of phones but I'm off the grid man. So yeah, okay let's go with the questions right now. Alright one have you had the vaccination? First question first of all make note of how many people there are if it is 1 2 or 3 yep i doubt before yes one a there you go i didn't think of that one have you had the vaccine yes uh why aren't you wearing a mask

18:10 Okay, why aren't you wearing a mask? And if they're wearing a... No no hold on stop stop stop this is wrong. You can't start off with these sorts of questions because it sounds like just combative. You have to start off with easy questions that don't Well how about this could you please show me your papers Oh yes, that's a great one Yes, could you show me your documents But you have to be...no! Show me your papers Just say it like that. Again, I don't think it's good to be combative at the beginning. Okay okay Ask them to see the documents and then ask them how long they've been working there you're just wondering and your just wonder because you have a podcast all the producers have podcast ours uh... I have a podcast so we want to know couple of things How old are you? Uh..how long have you been working for this agency what agency is this you're working for and how much are they paying ya This is really- And get the payment thing

19:02 Tell them it's important because they're probably being underpaid and you want to make it known. Yes, yes, yes, underpayed oh good one! Good one I like it. You're definitely being underpaid have then you can go into the other questions how many people no way before we do that ask around how many people have had the vaccine? Do you think maybe half or more at what kind of response have you been getting from the door people if people answer their door did they tell you get lost or what gets some little insight And then from there you can ask him some more. Have you had the vaccine? Where's your mask, where's your blue gloves? Blue gloves I love that

19:46 Hmm. Well, I just want to put in the show notes—I just wanted to reiterate since mandatory vaccinations are now cropping up again and there's this meme which to my knowledge even constitutional lawyer Dershowitz holds on to that the jurisprudence of mandatory vaccinations was settled in the Jacobson versus Commonwealth of Massachusetts lawsuit which went all the way to the Supreme Court where this guy said look I was sick from this vaccine six months ago his son had already had it and he had bad reactions and they didn't want to take it. And Massachusetts took him to court, and the Supreme Court upheld that he had no right

20:34 to deny the vaccination. And that's where the analysis of that particular case ends, but that's not the final story because Jacobson never had to get another injection He only had to pay a fine of $5, which was a lot then. It was like a week's worth of wages but that's all he had to do and at that time case law allowed the unvaccinated people to walk around freely and interact with whomever they chose so if you want to... This was during when? Oh this was 18... I'm sorry, this is after the Spanish flu i think

21:17 But Doug, it couldn't have been because the Spanish flu had no vaccine. No no I'm sorry hold on what was this vaccination? It was maybe smallpox? It had to be maybe smallpox yeah i think it was smallpox well that would go into the 1800's okay Yeah end of 1800's but if you're going to mandate vaccines then you have to also...I think that was that was the point of it uh you also have to then start picking people up You got to get them off the street. If you're going to mandate vaccines, then you can't have anyone unvaccinated walking around which is where the stars come back into play...the yellow stars so we'll see and we'll see but it's very sad that people believe that uh that's the law or that's the jurisprudence anyway anyway vaccine propaganda Robin from she's The Today Show right? NBC? Robin I believe so yeah So she's continuing with her Pfizer sponsored podcast

22:15 I'm host Robin Roberts and in COVID-19 immunity in our community, a new podcast series. Is she ABC? I think she might be ABC. From iHeartRadio and the US Department of Health & Human Services we're going to hear from Americans on the front lines many of whom were uncertain about the vaccines and the facts that convinced them to roll up their sleeves get vaccinated We sat down with Heather Simpson a mother who used to be part of the anti-vaccine community. If you are going to talk to a vaccine hesitant person or an anti-vaxxer, just keep in mind that they are terrified. They truly believe what they believe when I got a ton of hate as an anti-vaxxer that just strengthened my platform and i believed oh i got hated that means i'm doing something right

23:03 Listen to COVID-19 immunity in our community on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We can do this! I love that! The anti-vax community is a community of people we're all in the community it's great time and our little community Over on MSNBC, they just take it to the next logical conclusion that anti-vaxxers are in fact inherent racist. I have to ask you, there's still so many conspiracy theorists out there and I'm increasingly disconcerted by some of the people who are sharing these Big Boy from OutKast just shared a video from an older black woman saying don't get the vaccine The second gentleman Doug Imhoff was at a barbershop in Chicago And someone said to him ain't nothing gonna make me take that

23:53 that that implicate or influence human behavior. I'm going to make this very plain, I don't have any tolerance for the anti-vaxxer movement and i don't have any tolerance for politicians who befriend who cozy up too will become allies of that movement actually see as another example of the proliferation of white supremacy

24:34 Oh, she's the MSNBC doctor. She's... I'm sorry, the MSNBC black segment doctor. Movement! I actually see that as another example of the proliferation of white supremacy because in particular they are targeting communities of color and they are targeting the historical injustices, the atrocities that communities of color have experienced as a way to play on their vulnerabilities Just love it. It's the black community doing that more than the white Yes, exactly Kidding she's full of shit that woman the biggest ante I mean how do you think black Americans feel about this crap when they hear that? I mean That's just what are you talking about? No, they can't be happy. I only have two cold eclipse

25:27 I have one, schools in the Pfizer. This is a PBS report that's kind of interesting because they slip in promotional material for Pfizer it seems to me The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention today encouraged schools to reopen fully now that students as young as 12 are getting vaccinated and that deaths are declining It also said that fully vaccinated teachers and students do not need to wear masks while in school Meanwhile, the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration said fully immunized Americans do not currently need a booster shot. That comes after Pfizer announced plans to seek approval for one in the next month.

26:10 Oh yeah, and it happened everywhere. Here's CNN. don't want it. They're not getting it, so for Pfizer to come out and say oh we think our two shots that there's waning immunity that just gives those people the opportunity to see- to say aha I told you this shot wasn't so good! I told you this didn't really work! That's exactly the opposite of what we want to be doing right now Now it's one thing for um The News Hour to do that It's another for CNN? For CNN to do this?!

26:52 Well here's the thing, remember Pfizer screwed up once before? This goes back to March, April of last year. And we talked about it to some extreme where they had I think they had started bad mouthing the mRNA vaccine from Moderna to a point that it made their vaccine look bad? Oh yeah! It was some screw-up and it was a marketing error and this is the same thing this is the second time that Pfizer has made a marketing blunder well The way I read it, the marketing blunder is very simple. They only paid the mainstream media for two shots and now they just want to slip in a third with FDA approval? Uh uh uh uh! You gotta up that budget son! Well if that's...that element is in play. I'm not gonna argue that. Wolf Blitzer

27:48 grilled and drilled St. Anthony Fauci about it. The former Surgeon General of the United States, Dr Jerome Adams man you worked with you know him well he told CNN today that the lack of coordination between the federal government and vaccine companies He says it's troubling I guess the bottom line question is why aren't all of you on the same page? Yeah! You know we are on the same page It was one of those facts of life is that they came out with the announcement without giving us a heads up. And quite frankly- How's that being on the same page? It's not, it's exactly not! It was just one of those facts of life, brolf. The same page...it was one of those facts of life is that they came out with the announcement without giving us a heads up. Fact of life?! What do you think he means in just- How is it a fact of life!?

28:40 It's a fact of life that Pfizer sent out an announcement. What? That means shut the fuck up, Brolf! How is this in any way... A FACT OF LIFE What an idiot. It was one of those... This is pathetic! ...is that they came out with the announcement without giving us a heads up and quite frankly, the CEO who's a really good guy got on the phone with me last night and apologized... And he said holy crap Brove I fucked it up! ...apologized that they came out with that recommendation so there is no... So it's all good because the CEO who's a good guy called Anthony said dude I'm so sorry him and then Brove went

29:24 I mean, uh, if LG went in... is a right man happens. Fact of life! No, he said okay I'll cover for you exactly that they can't go take a bullet out with that recommendation so there was no not that apologize about the recommendation apologized for not letting us know that he's gonna do it ahead of time he's really oh you know a good person and he meant it sincerely Wow I mean seriously? That's the level you're going to go to? Are you kidding me?! It gets better Because this is about the boosters and remember... Yeah, it was based on a couple of things. One of them and the main thing was the data that we heard about last week from what appeared to be a diminution in efficacy of preventing initial infection. The important bottom line... I love how he's like okay i'm going to use some words that the typical CNN viewer won't understand

30:31 In other words, it started... the data showed that it sucked. In efficacy of preventing initial infection the important bottom line in all of this Wolf is that the efficacy against severe disease particularly hospitalization that might lead to death in some individuals was still really very good within the 90%. That's the important aspect of this Okay, nice little trick. So no longer is it... It keeps you safe, you won't get the virus maybe-maybe not even that just like hey if you get the virus because this thing doesn't seem to work so well at least she won't die we kind of think

31:14 And 90% is less than what you'd get from just getting the virus without the vaccine, by the way. There you go 99.97 chances I mean chances 0.03 percent of dying now NBC I think they did anticipate this was coming and they did get the...you know they had sales go out and say okay third thing so let's take care of it no package deal You blew your chance. You could have done for two shots and a booster, but you were cheapskates. You just took the option for two and now you want three? Okay good sign here. Tonight Pfizer says a booster shot—a third dose of its current vaccine

31:53 could offer Americans 5 to 10 times more protection against COVID. Given six months after the second dose, Pfizer believes those inoculated would be highly protected against the Delta variant which is now exploding across the U.S.. The company expects to deliver new data to the FDA within weeks and is also working to develop a Delta specific version of its vaccine It's exploding, it's exploding over the US. A specific version... These guys are shameless but you're right NBC got bought off or they didn't get bought off They finally got the buy they were looking for Now its looking like CNN has shitty sales people because ABC also got the buy Drugmaker Pfizer we're hearing that they are also now saying that they've got a third dose That booster shot we have been talking about However the CDC and FDA are saying hey not so fast

32:50 The theme of the day in terms of COVID coming out of our government agencies and big pharma, confusion. And this is the first example so late yesterday Pfizer released some encouraging data they've been testing as we know a third dose a booster dose they have found that it provides strong and sustained immune protection when given six to twelve months after the second dose Basically, their philosophy. Their data saying two doses is good three doses even better. What is this their philosophy bullcrap? And then she follows up with their data I mean their data... Basically their philosophy their data saying 2 doses is good 3 doses even better but as you said Amy and TJ... 4 even better than that! You know what hey

33:35 six doses. What was it? It wasn't. Oh my god, you stepped on the necessary it may be and if it is we don't know when at this time It's premature to say everyone will need a booster three is better but four is gonna be great Made the joke it's funny now

34:18 I think the top dogs over there at Pfizer quit. They've made their bonuses and they've walked, so we're starting to see these scrubs because I think the one they could go with... And a couple of shows ago I had one example and it's fallen by the wayside is the Top Off sales pitch. Oh! The Top Off? Top Up. Oh, is it top up or top off? Well in the UK they say top-up and in Europe I think in general here we would say top off but yeah. They've been talking about should I top off at least a guy from Cheddar News or Newsy are one of these two. One of these great channels yes. Great channels he says should I top off my J&J vaccine with a Pfizer shot and of course as we know if you go back

35:11 The clip show I'm gonna end up doing for all the early days is going to indicate, no don't mix these vaccines. The mix and match is my favorite. Well the mix-and-matches one thing but yeah I still think that top off idea was something they could have gone with but as you recall back in March and April As I've said many a time on this show, especially today. They made... they went on and on about how you can't mix and match! Yes it was not done. And now they want you to- I thought they could have gone because it was being accepted by these douchebags at these lesser news channels uh and they were even bringing it up as though it was on a script gee I wonder

35:59 They used to be a big deal. Don't don't mix and match, don't mace in batch! Oh yeah And now they're even saying it's a good idea if you had the Moderna Pfizer to get a J&J and vice versa I haven't heard that one oh in the UK or there in Europe It was like if you can get one... If you can get all three is great Get all three? Yeah That means none of them work Well gotta get all three well They're doing something You know, I was beating myself up. The one thing that I forgot to bring up to Joe Rogan when I was on the show recently is Osterholt, the guy that I met the first time I went on his show in March of 2020 because he really kicked off a lot of fear mongering and I mentioned it to Joe after we were done and he said you know holy crap Adam like that really rattled a lot of people

36:56 It just sent so many people into a tailspin and it wasn't appropriate for me to ask, well how the hell did he get on the show? How did he get booked why who does that why did it Why was this guy coming into just fear monger and of course never called to account And even though he doesn't appear on television that much anymore. He must be freelancing or some kind of side hustle He's got this podcast The Osterholm Update No, I have to go listen to that. Well sit down and get ready here's a few clips What we're seeing really is an urban suburban community split And what i mean by that is racism if you look at the rate of new daily cases they've fallen below three per hundred thousand residents in large cities like Atlanta Boston Chicago Detroit Houston Minneapolis New York Philadelphia San Francisco and Washington DC

37:51 You'd say if you're in those locations, the pandemic's over. However but in less populated areas but nonetheless very diverse throughout the country areas that tend to be more politically conservative and skeptical of vaccines the virus is now surging largely from the Delta variant The states with the worst outbreaks, what I just mentioned Arkansas and Missouri each with more than 16 new daily cases per 100,000 followed by Florida at 10, Nevada 10 Wyoming 9 and Utah 8 per hundred thousand cases. And he just kept going. I just want to add what i think is really a remarkable number that should hopefully give all of us reason to believe that the vaccines are our answer if you look at what we're seeing in terms of number of deaths in this country, If you look for the month of May, the latest data we have from CDC

38:45 And well before the Delta variant took off, only about 150 of the more than 18000 COVID deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people or less than 1%. That translates to about five deaths per day attributed to fully vaccinated Americans experienced from breakthrough infections particularly in the older population. But that compares to 300 deaths per day in the unvaccinated populations. Hold on a second! My... listening to these guys go on and on and on, if nothing else the vaccine keeps you from getting killed. How is he getting five deaths a day from people who are fully vaccinated? I was under the impression listening to Fauci that there's no chance of getting killed by this disease if you are vaccinated it would that's what the vaccine does it can still get the disease but you're not going to end up in hospital well it's interesting you bring that up because there is

39:46 Something very strange is going on. In different countries, polar opposite things are taking place in the Netherlands they've now just the government and the Prime Minister did a big speech like oh-oh Well, cases are rising amongst young people. Recall that two weeks ago it was go-go-go! Go to your bars... The UK did the same thing. It's ready to do the same thing. Go to your bars, hang out and have a good time. Peace is here we're good to go And everybody started rocking and rolling. Everyone was really happy, you know sure there were many bars that you had to show either a QR code negative test which of course was gamed immediately there's no real check No one cares! They're just partying and then the Delta variant... The hammer comes down When we're talking about the crime, the criminal ridden country of The Netherlands

40:46 You can do a lot to the Dutch, but you do not touch their dance festivals and you do not touch their drugs. That's when you make a mistake! And so all these huge festivals like Lowlands and the big one... The Big White Party in the arena which is 50 000 people These are events that the Dutch look forward to for the entire year and they're being told it's impossible. New restrictions, everything closes at midnight you have to have one-and-a-half meter distance between people which means any facility that is open before that pretty much can only do a third of their occupancy so that has now ruined completely bankrupted clubs events and now people are getting angry but in over in the UK

41:37 It's like, no no no. No it's okay we're just gonna go completely all in and here this is actually the transport minister Grant Schaps This is indirect sound so you got to focus for a second, but odd things are being said. Good morning Grant Shapps! Morning! Would you please explain the evidence that you've looked at to make this decision? Yeah we know that double vaccinated or fully vaccinated people are much more likely to get and also carry the coronavirus. So there comes a point where, you know, there's a balance to be made by allowing people to see perhaps friends and family or even go on holidays uh two countries which are in the amber category which is the vast majority of countries in the world and that's that's where we've got to based on the advice of chief medical officer and others so they're saying yeah we know people who are vaccinated get corona virus more often

42:38 I mean, what is going on? This is like up-is-down left-is-right. It's good and I don't think that was a gaffe. I think he absolutely means this." I couldn't hear word he said. Oh well it's too bad... He said that we know the vaccinated people get... I thought he said double vaccinated. Double vaccinated people yeah What does double vaccinated mean? Does that mean you get the two Pfizer shots, or does it mean you got Pfizer and Moderna and then you got J&J and AstraZeneca. That'd be quadruple vaccinated It's so nuts right now that it could be any of what you just said all of the above! It is completely insane Well the insanity continues with new usages I have one last clip

43:25 And I want you to tell me if you can spot the, well I'm gonna give it away by telling ya this. The saved or created... You didn't have to give that away! I would've caught that from anywhere But it's not, they've got a new one. It's a new one. It's not safe but listen to this is COVID New Use. The CDC guidance for schools to fully reopen this fall and allow fully vaccinated students to go without masks is yet another sign of how the US is shifting its approach to the COVID pandemic But even as the push for regular routines grow, the Delta variant presents its own risks, especially to those who aren't vaccinated. Some states in the South and Midwest have low vaccination rates. Stephanie Sy looks at one dealing with a spike in cases, Missouri

44:15 Judy, Missouri is one of those states where the Delta strain is leading to a rise in cases. It's among the top five states when it comes to new cases and hospitalizations. Missouri has reported nearly 7600 newly confirmed or probable cases in the past week. Shut up then lady! Don't bury the lead like that that's horrible listen to this this is The Guardian and The Guardian has this headline Why most people who now die with COVID in England are ones who had a vaccination. Now wouldn't you like to know what... Yes! I'm telling you there's something weird going on again, why most people who now die with COVID in England have had a vaccination and they summarize the article right at the top don't think of this as a bad sign it's exactly what's expected from an effective but imperfect jab

45:18 It's what's expected? That's exactly... I'll read it again. Don't think of this as a bad sign, it's exactly what is expected from an effective but imperfect jab! This is weird. Now tell me I'm crazy- Oh by the way, the clip that I played just... Somebody may have missed it But they're using probable As a... You get the probable. It means they had the flu. Is the way I see it Or maybe just a false positive It could be a million things. Could be any of those! But I don't know, maybe the amount of grift going on with this advertising money that's coming from Pfizer and the other drug makers is as it starts to peter out they're starting...the media has decided to put screws to them? Maybe but then here's the next thing that's weird

46:16 Now, over the weekend a screenshot appeared from The Times. So the UK The Times which is a serious newspaper and it said COVID passports will be mandatory in pubs clubs and restaurants and it was a screen shot and I'm looking at BBC...I'm trying to find any evidence this is real nothing nothing nothing nothing! I can't even find it on their website so I'm like this is fake but then the Evening Standard comes out Not the same level of publication, but they're reporting on it by saying COVID certificates will be needed to enter pubs bars restaurants and clubs under plans to stave off a fourth wave of the virus in the autumn. It has been reported so they're reporting on that report They are probably reporting on the fake screenshot Yes! That's what I think is happening

47:06 Well that does happen, these guys get suckered. I mean this is the classic example where a newspaper falls for an internet hoax and then they write oh sorry we fell for the internet hoax! And they put a little clarification on page 40 But let's now talk about Australia in particular Sydney So, I don't know they have a couple hundred cases. I think one or two people died this they are locking them down tighter than dogs in the cage It is tighter than Trump locks up kids and cages say whatever you want This is it's crazy Now this is a report

47:52 where the voiceover says something interesting. Today is the first full day of the New World Order, outdoor gatherings are limited to two people exercise is allowed but no further than a 10 kilometer radius from your home browsing in shops it's not permitted only one person per household may leave to do essential shopping and from tomorrow Funerals are limited to 10 people. And the length of this lockdown is up to each and every one of us. See part for ten years first So you notice a little New World Order he throws in there at the beginning? I could barely hear that clip. That was very... Is somebody recording with a Radio Shack mic off of a TV set? Well, what happens—I mean these are not producer clips—what happens is people catch something on their phone You can't always find everything on YouTube or BitChute You know so it's just— No but it doesn't help me if I can't understand a word of it

48:50 Well, I'll just play that one relevant bit again. You'll hear it Today is the first day of the New World Order Yeah, then we have a new I think we had a new world order clip last show too yeah So I asked I asked a buddy who's in Australia he's left-leaning? I would say and I'm sure he's had been vaccinated and and loves it all, but he said is this really happening? Are you being locked down like this? And he says yes that's happening in Sydney. The government is trying to stop the virus from spreading same happened in Melbourne last year yeah I know we followed that but then here's how it runs Scott Morrison fucked up the vaccination program here so they're blaming... He must be a conservative The Prime Minister! Oh the Prime Minister yes

49:40 Which is the same thing they did in Melbourne. Oh, well they blame it! They will not accept that it's impossible to stop any kind of spread of this It was always someone's fault Then there were people at the Covid hotel who were having sex with the people who are supposed to be quarantining That was their fault Yes, a lot of weird finger pointing but it's usually aimed at...it's usually targeting a certain element. It's like the targeting of the South and Missouri now by you know, oh they're bunch of Republicans are not getting the vaccine it's their fault that's why we're still having trouble because of these bastards That's why And the biggest example is Bolsonaro being blamed for everything in Brazil They're trying to get rid of that guy

50:25 So we need to go and see what the marketing is Let's go to tick-tock. This is interesting this tick tocker has shingles morning tick-tock Just a quick update still got a lot of blisters He's showing it which is quite disgusting But I had an interesting phone call. I called AHS, which is Alberta Health and Safety. I'm from Alberta so i called AHS on their 811 number to file a report my doctor told me to file a report that it could be an adverse effect to the COVID vaccine I filed, or I called the 811 and I filed a report. And the lady on there, the nurse or whoever's on the end of it tells me yeah we've heard a few of these cases it shouldn't be life-threatening or whatever use cortisone cream take your prescription which is what I have been doing. I have cortisol in Korean home I use every day twice a day and I have a prescription that my doctor gave me

51:22 But it was interesting to hear her say that I'm not the only one. So then I asked her why we're not being told about it and she said, to create less vaccine hesitancy So obviously that got taken down. At least I haven't seen it return. Of course it got taken down, heaven forbid! But so in other words did he ever say which vaccine was it? No but I think its Astra... well what is in uh isn't AstraZeneca in Canada? I think its AstraZeneca But Team Halo, the real team halo on TikTok they now have a new message. Now these are TikTokers who have been promoting vaccination now and they're singing it so before you say I can't hear it... I'm not gonna say it again! Yeah you will this one is actually kind of hard to hear. It's worse Well it's not the sound quality just the singing but that the crux of it is well listen

52:21 Don't go cycling, please don't go swimming lifting after your vaccine. But try walking or some stretching cause if you don't want a cardiac arrest you better be listening So don't go swimming, don't go running, don't go lifting weights no extraneous exercise for up to a week after your shots otherwise you might get a heart attack which is now official documentation that people are handed when they, not everywhere but being handed after receiving the vaccines. And that brings me... I'm silenced by that one! Well and this brings me to a trusted producer she sent us many good things in the past been around the show for a long time in the morning so I have two friends who work as stewardesses that would be flight attendants

53:19 for Southwest and I spent a rather long night last night drinking with them. They both dropped a weird piece of information that i wanted to pass on, do you remember about a month ago when Southwest suddenly cancelled a ton of flights? We got analysis that it was their computer system and it was antiquated there's lotsa stuff wrong with it She says, I thought it was a hacking thing. It turns out they had no pilots all their pilots had been vaccinated and quite a few of them started showing blood clots believed to be a combination of the vaccine and altitude thrombosis. Oh, altitude problems yes so i said i will pay for another night of drinking if you can

54:01 see if they have any friends at American Airlines. You remember Americans said, oh July we got to cancel hundreds of flights you know we were a little too enthusiastic. This is the best thing this is good and British Airways really good British Airways there were four pilots who or three at least we talked about it who died very close to each other and there was a lot of talk which went away about the same situation. A lot of British airway pilots, they all got vaccinated around the same time and people were having probably just unexpected taking longer to recover but yeah the thrombosis at altitude that's a real thing you can get that without having a vaccine you don't need any of that even you can run into trouble

54:47 So, yeah. Well that's frightening! The last thing... That would account for some of these unexplained you know all of a sudden these flights have been cancelled there are people there I just was on the news recently somebody bitching about their flight being cancelled they couldn't go anywhere Yeah So the word is out. Somebody's gonna write, it's not going to be me but somebody's gonna write a tremendously fabulous book about this Oh, not just one? It's a whole fiasco. Well I think we can do the audio version what you're working on is... We've been doing the audio version! People say they could use our material No aren't you putting that together? Aren't you putting together a whole retrospective of this or did i misunderstand no i'm doing a clip show of the beginnings

55:41 Not a retrospective would be the whole story. The beginnings are more interesting because you go to the beginnings, you start to see these things that are being violated as crazy! It's like crazy stuff and I mean it's just different it's so different than what we've forgotten We've been eased out of the beginnings into this new bullcrap but a retrospective of the whole thing might be might be hard. The UK fact-check network, truth information network whatever the fact checkers have done a fact check on something we discussed which is the Nuremberg Code regarding medical experimentation

56:26 And they have a fact check! Fact check false. Nuremberg Code from World War II has nothing to do with coronavirus despite bogus claims Yes, I saw this too. This is very funny. I shall read the pertinent piece based on expert opinion Full fact concluded that the Nuremberg code would only be relevant at the research trial stage of a vaccine's development not its rollout to the general public But even then, experts told us they felt it would not be an appropriate link to draw. It's right that medical ethics should be highly scrutinized especially in cases like the COVID-19 vaccine rollout where the process has been accelerated however it's important not to mix up the atrocities of the past with current debates about medicine and policy In other words don't heil Hitler me

57:21 Don't mix up the atrocities of the past with the atrocities of the current. There you go, that's the truth right there. I love how they say it is really only for the trial period well isn't emergency use authorization still the trial period? Emergency use...that's the kicker to make it mandatory or force people to get in an experimental, technically. An experimental product like this is a violation of the code! I mean come on why are they trying to cover this up? Because they don't want to be hung?! Is that...is that a thought? They're still on a job

58:06 Then I have, this was...I don't know if you received this note or not. Since you brought up exosomes a lot of people respond...have you got any good responses to exosomes? No Really? No Well, one of our producers had an interesting experience. His buddy had a...had the full vac- fully vaccinated although he didn't feel well and they were supposed to go out and you know drag around in his 500 horsepower Mustang and Oh yeah I got this note Right It's very, yeah there is a pertinent part in the middle of it that you're going to read. So this is the weird twist he says my friend had been feeling under the weather because he had his second jab of Pfizer vax just the day before and said that he'd been feeling sick for about two weeks which was when he got the first jab He said he had the typical massive headache feeling like he had no energy and slightly plugged up nasally Which was none of these side effects Bill Gates talked about

59:03 We went for a ride, saw some other hot rods on the freeway. Raced little laughed little etc etc etc He said it was in the car for about 45 minutes total after and he sat in the garage having a beer For about another hour or so just BSing and then headed home and crawled into bed now here's where it gets interesting That night I had some strange dreams that I would liken akin to when I quit smoking. I once, I quit with a patch and once fell asleep with the patch on or twice fell asleep with the patch on which led to psychotic like very vivid vivid dreams but these were a tad different these dreams were much more sexual in nature and apparently aroused me my sleep and apparently arouse me in my sleep to the point of nocturnal emission

59:43 This might not seem weird, but I have not had one of these for close to 30 years. I'm approaching 50 and i do not have any issues like ED but am certainly not as active in the bed as they used to be. I thought maybe it was medication that I'm on, but only happened one time and has not happened since. While I continue to take all the medication I was taking when this happened thinking through with the only conclusion that I can come to is that this was a result of sitting close to someone who had gotten the vaccine for extended period of time Yeah, exosomes. Well that's some sex-ozomes is what that is! Well... I love it! What the hell happened to that guy? But uh yeah I was thinking about this because you were grilling me with Chubby. I'm thinking now when I go to the

1:00:31 Into the public especially around here where it was got to vax. I'm wearing my mask Well, the mask of course worried about flying because then worried about sitting next to somebody's had the vaccine and they could their exuding Exosomes and I you know get a bunch of these spike proteins all over me in my system And I gotta like deal with it with bad dreams It just I don't know I don't think the mask is going to protect you from the exosomes. I hope it does! Now did you see our other producers who sent us the magnetic brass key video? You know, you sent me a note on this and you know what...I looked at your email and saw this one and said I'm not even opening it

1:01:21 Dude, you missed something good. I'll go back and look at it but... And it's even addressed! Okay John this has bugged me enough ie brass keys aren't magnetic that I forced my wife to get vaxxed This is now here's a producer this is someone who cares about the show Just take someone you love and stick them with the jabs for a test, for science, for the show. For the show? In this video that I just shot today my wife is freshly vaxxed 48 hours ago and of course the brass key sticks to her arm so i grabbed a magnet and a paper clip to show that it also sticks The part you can't see is you can actually feel a pull and a push from the area where she was vaxxed

1:02:02 This is what all the videos, there's a lot of videos that show this and it's always the guy doing the testing. The guy holding the key or whatever it is. He says wow you can feel it pulling! You can feel that pulling as far... It's almost like I'm considering this mass hysteria personally Like, people should look up the June bug situation where people imagine these bugs. Wow! That's an interesting one. It's certainly not with everybody and the fact that this happens with brass it just can't be magnet

1:02:40 Can't be magnetism. It has to be some kind of alien technology that is anti-gravitational, it's anti gravitational technology. Well you know I can't argue against that for sure When you see if you're like this is anti gravitational stuff in here They always say I can feel it pulling I can feel it pulling Yeah! I mean almost want to get a... You know what? I should force someone I know Well, no don't get a shock. Yeah Tina get a shot right? This guy did I Don't think that doesn't sound like a friendly idea at all All right then I can wind it up to think unless you have anything else No, I only had my guy when he had two Kovac lips I could wind it up with my hate clip which is relevant today. I keep forgetting to get a good hate clip

1:03:35 Well, I mean it's tough because you got to listen to stuff that you hate. Yes! That how it works and this is the liberal intellectual elites of the Pivot podcast that's my new acronym by the way Liberal Intellectual Elites This where you say gee that's genius. Yeah, I wouldn't like to get the word progressive in there. Yeah but it's L-I-E which is lie. I kind of like it that... Oh okay! I got it yeah use that. Liberal intellectual elites Caris Whisher and Professor Galloway who individually um Galloway does say some very smart things just he's not dumb and he has the right idea about a lot of things but

1:04:26 Man, Kara Swisher is just off the rails. And so now their producer was hired away to go work for I think Spotify to be in charge of all podcasts and or no it's going to be running the The Obama know the Harry and Meghan Podcast so with with Oprah, and she's going to be producing that and so that's a big move up Yeah, what kind of material are we gonna get from them? Who the hell cares what they have to say? Well look at who they hired to produce it. I can tell you exactly what you're gonna get from that, hello! But then of course what they do now that they've lost their producer...I'm sure they knew this, they got a new producer They immediately start doing new things which is dumb dumb dumb dumb and its not what you do but it was great great for the hate clip section

1:05:20 They decided to do a, you know what was a win and what was loss or it was great and what was bad about certain topics. And COVID they both weighed in on what was really the win and what was really the loser of the whole COVID experience which for them it's over They have no problem, they're both very wealthy multi-millionaires. In fact in this episode Kara Swisher said I still have 10 or 100 Bitcoin somewhere and don't care So anyone who talks like that is rich, is rich. I don't care! So here we go We've talked about it a ton and a half over the last year and in the last six months What do you think the major wins and fails have been there? I think the biggest win has been the vaccines Vaccines are the most wonderful product ever invented humanity they represent global cooperation and science and truth The most disappointing thing is that hopefully...I think America's comorbidities are arrogance

1:06:21 our politicization of things that we should pull together on and having what was supposed to be the most innovative, wealthiest tech enabled. The majority of pharmaceutical companies are here at the most robust you know we spend more money on health care than anyone in the world she'd like to think the most robust responsive government in the world they can defend the shores And, you know 5% of the population and 20% of the infection. So how we responded to this? Yeah, any can't just blame the government but how we responded as a people mask there's just not getting around it. We bought us terribly now having said that American firms with a global cooperation of German firms and Turkish immigrants who immigrated to Germany I know you notice folks dad these these vaccines

1:07:12 Developed in record time are just an incredible. I don't want to call them a gift and incredible achievement of humanity It's it shows the best in humanity, but by the way that's I guess it was Trump who pushed it through but he conveniently forgets that It's just it's so beautiful. So good to see we suck We suck because we had the gift of the vaccine and so wonderful, and we just really did a bad job Republicans in record time are just incredible I don't want to call them a gift an incredible achievement of humanity What do your thoughts? You know what i'm gonna be pro internet again The internet worked like the internet helped us now listen to this This is the most privileged woman i've ever heard of

1:07:56 I've ever heard speak about the internet worked when we were all locked down. It worked it worked It was great except if you are an essential worker Cara, but human a humanity What are your thoughts? You know what? I'm gonna be pro-internet again The Internet works like the Internet helped us in terms of work and delivery I mean, I think you know everything that we needed to get through the pandemic was provided unfortunately by these internet companies which did their job, like in terms of that. They've of course also gained their power and even more power over lots of industries and will continue to do so and repercussions going forward in commercial real estate everywhere everywhere you go restaurants retailers You know communications meetings business travel everything And so this is so privileged she doesn't even know what she's doing like Oh restaurants we just get curbside restaurants

1:08:46 closed. That was a losing, money-losing proposition! Big box stores prospered you could order off of Amazon you do a podcast you privileged putz That's why you could stay at home. Oh all my services, if the internet worked for you that is not the majority of the world or the country." I think the internet worked it didn't break down now there's obviously these ransomware attacks and all kinds of cyber security issues that are ongoing and just recently this week has been in the news a lot but you know it didn't break down and it got us through this thing whether people had to stay home and I think without

1:09:23 would have been really a much different situation. How do you, how would you do that without of course people who've been through pandemics before without the internet but it certainly helped I mean and people love them look up to them It's baffling! I just want to know how many I mean how many people are like this? You can't yeah there's more than we'd like too Yeah the more i think about Elise is here, which is great. She's here for Tina's birthday So I get a little rundown of what's happening in Brooklyn By the way there's the gay cold is running rampant in Brooklyn just so you know The gay cold? Yes all the gays- that's what it's called I didn't make it up All the gays have a cold and they've given to each other All of Brooklyn...all of Gay Brooklyn has THE COLD A specific kind of cold that goes from gay to gay That's what I was led to believe! Yes Huh

1:10:30 I wonder what that's all about. But when, when I hear you know so here are the things I learned like well you know everything in New York just went underground nothing really stopped no complete violation of the ethics of the lockdown and that was already kind of clear but did she get this shot? Oh yeah! Of course Which one? Uh...I don't know but she has the Vicks Celsior pass Did you try the key on her Oh my god, Adele do that? What am I thinking?! That's what i'm saying. I'm an idiot! Yeah, I'll try that um however More interesting is just the more I listen to it...I see this she really she really is thriving there She loves it. She's very very happy with her friend group

1:11:19 And it's interesting, like in the 80s and 87 when I was in New York. In Manhattan Hell's Kitchen was truly a hell there were rats as big as little dogs walking around. Big rat roaming around. Walking around by the way their rats are actually asking for spare change those... Yeah, it's unbelievable. And they could shimmy up 70 stories in a skyscraper It was insane! It was just a total mess. It was grungy dirty drugged out people homeless everything you can imagine and there's always kind of a New York attitude of yeah You know but now it feels like and maybe this is happening in more cities. Yeah, if you bitch about it

1:12:03 And it's like, oh yeah. But you know it still is a great place and we're here and we have passes to get into places if not stuff is underground. It just feels to me like moving towards the future where... We may have a divided America but I think it's going to be...it's not gonna be North or South or anything like that. Not even by vaccination status. It will truly people who thrive in a city and who really somehow like this atmosphere because they're very, they really have a lot of camaraderie and everything outside of the city is just kind of...

1:12:45 And to the point, was it an Asimov book where they built these super cities in the future and then people went to go look outside you know look past the gates of the city. They see these green pastures and were just freaked out didn't know what to do with it never wanted to go that way? I don't remember that one but that's a science fiction theme Yeah but it seems kind of possible You know and the rest of us will be out on Hill Country doing our thing It won't be forbidden to go into the city or vice versa just feels like we're kind of moving towards that. People really are thriving, and that's the technocratic society where everything is done by AI and by passes and you're good to go when you have status maybe even social credit score will be something these people might thrive on I mean... Now your going in the direction where i think it should be gone which is its possible what you just said and they think it's great

1:13:42 The thing is, the thing that's noteworthy is that they think it's great and they're not skeptical. Yeah. And so then the social credit whatever the Chinese call it sounds reasonable sounds like a good idea because really you don't want to be with a bunch of riffraff I mean, I don't want to get on a train with somebody who's got a lousy social credit score. Yes! He might be sitting next to me for God sakes Exactly exactly by the way the one other thing she told me which was great because she said have you been following the New York mayoral race? Like yeah this ranked choice voting is a mess and no one it was only one person who uh who's in their group uh who i think works in city government understands how it works

1:14:34 But she said it's oddly similar to the, and this she does know, to the Oscars. The Academy Awards, this ranked choice voting. And that's why so many people were disappointed at the results this past year when you know it was like two people who were really neck-and-neck for the nomination for I forget what it was production or whatever because of about this ranked choice voting in the Academy Awards the third person actually got the award And I would love to have a true mathematical breakdown. I have several emails that have been sent, that I've put in the show notes but...I don't know! It just seems to me it smells bad and there's lots of people who saw me talk about Joe Rogan who are just saying you're a retard moron idiot shut up Republican! What did you say?

1:15:32 I said, when I talked about it with Joe Rogan. This is really weird this ranked choice voting and he's also like how does this work? We looked at some web pages we you know Jamie brought up information It just it's not understandable other than reverse runoffs but everything I see from it kind of shows that you get mediocrity like really not the person anybody wanted And the argument seems to be, well otherwise you wind up with someone who has less than 50% of the vote. Well that's what it is right? Is it majority rule or more than half? It depends on the way its set-up I mean they can't be set up in a lot different ways and a lot different states if you don't get half in some states where some municipalities you have to have a runoff between the two top people and that is what rank choice voting is supposed to prevent

1:16:30 in places like New York where you have too many people running and you always end up with two one guy gets 35% another guy gets 32 and those are the two top vote getters so you got to put a put them off against each other yeah it's a rank choice is supposed to prevent that from happening but why do we have to prevent this cost a lot of money to do these elections and they do runoffs it costs millions of dollars oh you think that's the reason Yeah, it saves money. But don't people who do these things for a living... Don't they just thrive on doing it? Oh we gotta do no more! I mean how can the- since when is spending money the problem in government please? It's good sales pitch. We're saving money sometimes you don't have the money there are budgetary limitations and they can't just spend money that they don't have. It's not like the federal government could do well if they said that would at least be an argument that I can talk about

1:17:27 Well, they have kind of said it. We've heard it from a number of people that's just...it's a runoff. It's a methodology to prevent runoffs. Right now but you said the financial aspect if they just say and because runoffs are expensive The only reason we want to prevent runoff is because it saves a ton of money and it's also inconvenient there's a million reasons you don't want to run off Yeah, because you could lose it I guess. I don't know just seems well that we even lose anything yes That's true to one other thing in California We have in such a way that and I don't know why they never mentioned California employs these systems We had at the end did we had a run? It was ranked choice or something And it was like there still had to be a runoff and it was a runoff between two Republicans are two Democrats I'm sorry There's never Republicans involved if the Democrats have managed to steal

1:18:20 I don't know how they've done it, but they've done a pretty good job of it. Yeah, they're good at that. Republicans used to be good at stealing. Exactly Before we take a break, very important to note. I'm a little peeved about this because it was so easy to call and the move and I lost track of it. I watched a couple games but if we had to choose two countries based upon the no agenda geopolitics of how sports competition work on a large scale, the Euro 2020 which is the big football competition soccer

1:19:00 I don't think we could have chosen any better than Italy versus England. No, those are the two COVID countries and I think without a doubt they play today the final is today I think we might still be doing this show to me it seems Italy is a shoe-in for this. I mean they got hurt in England well they got hurt worse than the UK but the problem is that you can England they left the euro so you know screw ya Well, they left the EU not the Euro. They never went to the Euro. The EU but when I say euro 2020 you know it's a year it's really a European type thing and so they left the EU... Okay okay there is a distinction that needs to be made with Euros Yes you're correct. Well that's an interesting theory. I personally want England to win because I think has been awhile And they have really good-they have an outstanding team

1:20:00 There's no question about that. Soccer analysis from John C Dvorak! What is going on? Hello, who are you?! And I hate soccer... uh i do know that much though now this is an interesting-I don't know..i'm thinking that England's gonna win this thing. It's been 66 years since- You're making a base of the fact they quit the EU and Asia should be screwed let the Italians win That's one way of thinking The other one is okay You've quit the EU but we were still your friends and we'd like to do keep doing business. All is well, you can win

1:20:40 Italy is in such shambles. I mean, does Italy have any history of revolt or they just stepped in line with Mussolini and all went fascist? Well they... Just because they're all these really a country filled with many states you know they're all different there are separated and Mussolini brought them altogether into the one great together nation I think it's been going, it was an ongoing process but no there was no revolution like in France or Russia or here right place like that. Right so the Brits are the ones you got to be careful of because they could come down with pitchforks and stuff so maybe if England wins that country 66 years since they last won that country will go insane! If they lose what do you think will happen?

1:21:39 I don't know. We're going to find out. Will they start knifing each other? Well, they like the knife each other So are you saying England and I'm saying Italy is that our final? Yeah, I'm saying England Alright...I'm saying Italy But we're both saying it for geopolitical reasons or do you just think they have a better team No! I'm not saying that well.. I said I am unfamiliar with the Italian team They obviously are really good team where they wouldn't got as far as they did so there probably both matched at least somewhat evenly so i can say that England's better But so I'm doing it only for political geopolitical reasons. Good, good. Okay and you know they are remember they got zero votes for the Eurovision Song Contest? They should just be this boom out done! This may be a make-good. Ah no no no no this is a stomp extra on their face and take that okay if you think that then i admire your uh your analysis then

1:22:36 Alright. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put The Sea in the mega cities of the future ladies and gentlemen Mr John C Devorah! Well... In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry! Also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feedin' the air subs in the water... ...and all the dames and knights out there! And in the morning to the trolls in the troll room! Hands up trolls come on let's go let's go let's count it oh they scurry away like little trolls Oh alright 2164 today What was it again? 2,164. 2164. That's reasonable that's not bad for a Sunday well in the morning to you trolls sorry or during the peak we were at one 2200 plus during the the peak of COVID peak COVID yeah COVID COVID peak okay well I'm sure old days the good old days have the COVID peak

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1:24:21 You guys are wrong. But he's wrong about what? Anything, it just balances it out. It doesn't balance it out, it just makes it annoying to block them. That's the beauty you can block them and you'll never see him again but I like it. I like to hear the opposite side You know, shit poster. There's a lot of shit posters in there but we federate you know I kind of like it that's good and so you can follow John C Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com join the crew uh you'll flow through in the timeline and if you don't you can find a place to sign up to a mastodon server almost anywhere you could also set one up yourself and we'd gladly federate with you And would like to thank The Artist who brought us the artwork

1:25:10 for episode 1362. We titled that one Shot to Win and oh my, I got some pushback on this... I love No Agenda but why are you so sexist Adam? This was the Breastvax and we had quite a conversation about this and as it turns out well the conversation went like this.. This is great! We know this artist This must be something he's either owned or licensed. You had a good analysis because he cropped it, you saw exactly how...

1:25:47 how you would do this with a piece of art that was pre-existing. And it turns out that it is free to use clipart, but of course he enhanced it significantly and that's correct to record who did that. But there were... Well for a free to use clipart is free to use and people can use it now I looked for it. Some of our artists felt gypped and we both said look if this thing has ripped off Comics or blogger will find it but no! It was Nick the Rat who found it We noticed this at the beginning that when we did this analysis of these pieces there were all there was At least five pieces that were usable. Yeah, but we I brought up cheesecake in the show So I went it was something came in that was a little sexual. I thought that might be it was funny It was funny because we did this whole thing about the breast milk and the killing

1:26:40 Killing the baby as I guess it's not that you know. No, no is giving the baby antibodies as an exit strategy We're right there bad about that's right. That's right, but we wanted some breast action in there and so this one was This one was ludicrously because it was stupid It was a big giant breasts let me come on where comics your blogger did the big Breast squirting mill he had milk. Come on. It was kind of gross do that oh So, uh... So we thought about it and then we did look at a lot of other pieces. There was good pieces in there, lots of them but we chose this one after the discussion about the art itself which I looked at correct to record doesn't do cartooning and this is not something he'd draw and I figured he used it from somewhere where I couldn't find it you know? And it was changed enough and had the syringe and some other things that I figured were even if it was ripped off which he doesn't do

1:27:40 it was legal. So I said, well we'll just argue but we'll talk about on the show and make it clear now the fact that some would think of sexist you know you might want to reconsider listening to this show if you really felt this is art that was bad in bad taste or sexual sexist or whatever Mike Riley valiant effort but he even knew he hadn't quite nailed it with his windows Windows of Death So we had the Windows logo in the background and a whole bunch of skulls. It was original, it was completely original piece that's what he does yeah and he does that's where you only usually there is one piece and maybe modifies at one time generally speaking when he comes I'd say 75% of the time Riley puts a piece in he wins because it's funny and originally he's really talented but this time no

1:28:41 Yeah, I used it for today's pre-show art just because i liked it. There wasn't much else coming in now we both really like the uh... The windmill visit the Netherlands come for the crime yes very funny piece a lot also chuckled yeah Kenny Ben did the The self-serve antibodies for the kind of wasn't a windmill done by Darren. Yes, that was Darren O'Neill And we it was he was very close very very close Yeah could have been picked very easily except for the breasts As you already say that we were looking for some boob actions We were not actually looking for boob action but when we saw it we're like hmm boob action

1:29:27 What else was there? Was there anything else that was noteworthy? There's a couple other pieces of cheesecake. You know, Darren again made an attempt by putting in some pinup, you know some Vargas pinup or something like that and he keeps doing this but he seems to lack the I don't know leering kind quality to the pieces. He doesn't seem to have the right mentality I think if he just relaxes and does what he likes, not trying to do stuff that he thinks we'll like Yeah! I think you'll win time and time again. He's very talented Well he can win at any show that he contributes stuff Sometimes it is better stuff which is tough man

1:30:16 jail on a cracker. Yeah, so if you're using a podcasting 2.0 compatible app not only can you see the transcript running by as we speak you can search in that transcript oh my! You can create clips that you can then tweet or email to anybody. All of these great features including all this artwork we're talking about right now and you can even help Dreb Scott out by adding your own chapter suggestions using HyperCatcher go to newpodcastapps.com try out a new podcast app today what's it gonna hurt? You could always ditch it, give it a shot! You might be surprised about how cool that really is

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1:31:45 I don't know. Not every week? At that level, you know artists are just artists and they have... They don't think like any normal person Okay well I forbid them from doing that to anyone else but us They have an abnormal way of looking at things And it's what makes them artists You just put up with it I mean, you can appreciate it and you can think well. I'm an artist. I took a photograph You know the photographs? I do that My I consider my photographs to be very artistic in many ways And I can do grab stretch them but it's not the same as these guys It's this is a different kind of thing where you can actually manipulate Photographs are catching moments in real time and making them into something else But that's different

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1:53:44 Alright, if you'd like to support us and specifically request that thing never be played again then go to the following website. It's easy. Thank you all very much for your time your talent and your treasure in supporting the best podcast in the universe episode 1363! Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Meanwhile, I'm noticing I got a couple of Biden clips nothing great. Have him bumbling or anything?

1:54:39 I have the one stumble that's this Biden stumble it's gonna be kind of funny. We're going to continue to work for the release of detained Americans including Mark Ferricks, if i want to pronounce his name correctly, I misspoke, to physically relocate... This is one of the few scenarios where I would actually say this is not a cognitive issue, he is a stutterer. This is stuttering that he got caught up there. That's not really an old man thing. He says he's just stuttered all his life Did you feel it was a cognition thing?

1:55:25 No, but he did sound like he lost it. He had a moment there in the midst of it where it sounded like Trump when his false teeth kind of got loose That was funny too so I that's what I was thinking okay now now there is a clip by half because this is interesting this enough to Being fully realized what's going on here? But this is a clip from PBS on Biden versus the monopolies it's worth playing. President Biden also signed an executive order today aimed at curbing the anti-competitive practices of big businesses, it includes 72 actions and recommendations to boost wages and increase consumer protections before assigning ceremony at the White House. The president said the order targets abusive actions by monopolies

1:56:16 Capitalism without competition isn't capitalism. It's exploitation. Without healthy competition, big players can change and charge whatever they want and treat you however they want. And for too many Americans, that means accepting a bad deal for things that can't go without." Business and trade groups opposed the order arguing it would hamper the post-pandemic economic recovery. Well that is very interesting because there's something in that executive order I take issue with You know as legislation analyst I tend to read these things

1:56:56 So I don't know what kind of bullcrap report that is, but there was a huge lobbying effort in this from Silicon Valley tech companies to allow direct-to-consumer hearing aids without... so the classification as a medical device in order to have professional medical hearing aids or medical grade hearing aids fitted, you really need an audiologist. And if you recall when I got my hearing aids, I did a lot of reporting how they were seeing that it was coming down Broadway they were going to get cut out of the deal because Silicon Valley has convinced Washington that they have algos where you just stick them in your ear and it gives you some beeps and boops and you can self-configure

1:57:48 So that you your process took almost a month. Yes, and so first I would like to explain the difference because they're it's all they're saying its price and I have tried ear go. I've tried many many of these companies and their product is shit It is subpar. It has nothing to do with an actual hearing aid device The ones I have quad core dual processor Last eight days it's doing, you know... You have 32 channels of compressor limiters. If you're not an audio professional like I am, you cannot just do this yourself Silicon Valley cannot just do because it's still asking you does this sound right? They don't have the knowledge that an audiologist has

1:58:42 And I needed an audiologist to help me set it up and to help me understand what i was experiencing expecting. Then of course, within a week then I was doing it with my own software but that's really not the path you should follow so this is a pure lobbyist thing and I'm a little worried about what they're putting in these direct-to-consumer hearing aids They are so jacked up on getting this that I don't trust it And they're gonna... There's something weird about this. Why do they want it so badly? I don't know! There must be some serious profit involved here. I think there is, the way it works is you know so I have the Widex Moments, I've had the Evokes before this and these things are seriously expensive You're talking at least three grand for two hearing aids could be a little bit more The way it works is

1:59:35 The first visit is in essence free if you buy the hearing aids. I think almost half goes to the audiologist who then can charge you for subsequent visits just to tune them. But that's how the business has basically worked, so there is a lot of profit in this but your profiting off giving someone an inferior product with an inferior install process it's really a meta... It's like... It's almost like huge... Wait! Hold on You're talking about Silicon Valley giving people an inferior product? What am I saying?! What are you thinking? Yeah. Also, um... Bose was a big part behind this

2:00:21 There's a lot of money, self-fitting hearing aids. I would recommend you not do it if you want to save money in the United States go to Costco their top-of-the line hearing aids are very decent and they have good audiologists professionals and you will pay less money i think they're more like 1900 but it's not time to skimp on this crap It's not about just amplifying And Silicon Valley don't email me We're a self-feeding process. We reduce background noise, we've got hyperdirectional beamforming microphones... What's the time code? Anyway so that was interesting that you brought that up I hadn't expected that yeah I always thought it was peculiar it just seemed out of the blue and then they also had really good clear clips of Biden. I have this Biden clip. Oh wait! I'm sorry yeah you got another Biden

2:01:21 Well, this I don't know what this is because i typed and obviously was touch typing from hell. It's the clip is dip...I think it supposed to be dipshit. Can I just read this? Yeah good luck. Dipskits kweisahwib idbiden. That's your touch typing is impressive Yes, yes. All right? Yes, ma'am. Will the United States be responsible for... Oh okay I know what this is. Okay This is the kind of dip shit he's at his press conference talking about pulling out of Afghanistan which I have another clip I'm going to follow up with and he uh is talking about pulling out of Afghanistan and so they're asking these reporters are making a big fuss

2:02:14 I don't know why he even did a press conference there. It was completely out of control and it was really noisy, and he'd take a question or two... It must have confused him if it was really noisy! Oh, it didn't confuse him? Noise usually confuses them I think they had people in there telling people, I don't know what was going on because they never showed the audience but it sounded out of control and then somebody all of a sudden they all shut up and one person talked. But the questions were lame and they're aggressive and it's like aggressive for aggressive only and they were condemning him for pulling out of Afghanistan that seemed pretty staged that he didn't like any of this and the follow-up clip will make this even more clear

2:02:55 So listen to this, I call this the classic dipshit question asked of Biden. Yes ma'am. Will the United States be responsible for the loss of Afghan civilian lives that could have military exit? No no it's up to the people of Afghanistan decide on what government they want not us to impose the government on them No country's ever been able to do that. Keep in mind as a student of history, I'm sure you are Never has Afghanistan been a united country not in all of its history Not in all of its history

2:03:36 So first of all, what's really happening is it's just a complete privatization of the military force over there. There'll be between 15 and 20 thousand contractors still doing the business of protecting the poppies and flying them to Mexico or wherever they need to go so it's just horseshit that take this oh well we're bringing in the troops home! This is what they've wanted from day one is to have it commercialized ongoing forever. That's what happened in Syria, that's what happens in Libya... It's all contractors! It is despicable! Well whatever the case, it seems as though the CIA

2:04:16 Doesn't like us pulling out and they've got their guys out there telling it, you know Giving their side of the story even though they're not supposed to be working for this CIA Seems to me But there is kind of a litany of why we shouldn't be pulling out and I don't know what the basis for that is or why? Is what if but you said and I promoted that concept too That this bunch of contractors are gonna be there doing the work Maybe they're not as good as the army or who knows But there is this, they still don't like the idea for some reason. And so you can kind of spot who's promoting... There's no reason I'm on Biden side insofar as the army is concerned. There's no reason for soldiers to be over there and have these mercenaries and whoever else you want to do protect the poppy fields. You don't need those guys

2:05:10 But there's still some of this, whatever this thinking is. And it crops up and when you crops up, you have to say who's this guy actually working for? And in this case let's listen to Mr Brooks on the PBS show on pulling out what does he have to say about it and why do you think he saying this And that is his decision to pull US troops out of Afghanistan now. He made the argument again, David this is the right thing to do Afghan... The Afghan leaders oughta be able to run their own country Is it the right decision? I think he's making a mistake you know and its become obvious in record time

2:05:51 it's a mistake. When he announced the policy initially, he said that he had faith in the Afghan government to hold Afghanistan together from the Taliban. That has fallen apart we reported earlier on the show 85% of the territory is already falling into the Taliban and the Taliban seems completely confident they will take over and you know we all I think it was 2014 or so when this Pakistani young lady Malala won the Nobel Prize who was shot by the head for going to school there are a lot of Afghans out And we were all moved by her and we all sympathized and thought that was a very important cause, that young women in this part of the world should be able to get an education. We're walking away from that. We're walking away from the idea that Afghanistan will stay one country. We could be walking away from the idea that we can keep Al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan again so they could set up a terror spot if you could just get incredible turmoil on that part of the world, refugees flooding into Pakistan, destabilizing Pakistan.

2:06:43 So to me, what we were doing over the last year which was like 2500 troops relatively low casualties was a price worth paying for humanitarian and strategic reasons. And I think it's a mistake that we're pulling out. Wow! Yeah that's what i thought. Are you kidding? By the way The Taliban took over the place once before and there wasn't these refugees flocking to Pakistan. That's bull crap. Hey, I have an extension on this from Biden Unless you want to talk about this very clip for a moment. It's not really much to talk about except it just seems to be planted before we play the extension I would like to play an introduction to this clip which started actually with Judy, I just wanted this for informational purposes. It's in the side This is Judy trying to get to this clip

2:07:37 Judy Gath. Well, it's fascinating to watch it come back and we'll see where it goes I also do want to bring up with both of you what President Trump spent a good bit of time talking about this week. Did I say President? Okay, President Biden thank you! Oh my! Epic fail oh my so sorry about that Judy I think Judy is following Joe. Now, now I don't know and I presume that everything President Biden says is scripted sometimes he goes off the reservation a bit but when I...now you and I have been around for awhile we've been through the tail end of the Bush administration throughout Obama it's really been quite a ride we remember a lot of things

2:08:35 You know, there's a lot of stuff like someone emailed me the other day. Did you know that when you're labeled as a domestic extremist that you can be picked up in America? Yeah we know the NDAA, that was the enemy combatant early on in Obama administration Maybe even the Bush administration. I think it began with Bush. It might have started with Bush, but there was an end to... Yeah, Bush started and Obama had no problem keeping it in place. It was the NDAA of 2012 so it had to be Obama and it was in there And so yeah, we know that but we know a lot of things and we certainly remember it was an added door Was it always in there? He just signed off on it. No, no It was in there in that 2012 he was Talking about the you could be black bagged and all this stuff Yeah, I think it was an addition. It wasn't additional heavy if you have that Liberty flag You can beat me. Let's be a terrorist. Yes

2:09:33 Yes, now it wasn't that people say it's the Patriot Act. No, it was an extension It was a patriot also had if you carried the US Constitution means you're a bad person Hello So now I know pretty much the timeline. I know who was what what is where we also remember some things that people say and so this is what President Biden said about well listen to this This was just this week bring Osama bin Laden for the gates of hell As I said at the time. The second reason was to eliminate al Qaeda's capacity to deal with more attacks in the United States from that territory

2:10:13 We accomplished both of those objectives. So what he is saying, that he said we're going to bring Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell? That's what he is saying and he said that they achieved the objective so Al Qaeda would not strike anymore in the US homeland The problem with this is, is that he said this three years after Bin Laden was killed. So-called killed or thrown in the ocean no pictures please and it was about ISIS! So who is writing this material for him? Here's the original Gates of Hell clip We came back after 9 11

2:11:02 We dusted ourselves off and we made sure that Osama bin Laden would never ever again threaten the American people. We came back Boston strong, blaming no one but resolve to be certain that this didn't happen again today America may be grieving still grieving from Jim Foley in native of New Hampshire as I said who grew up in Rochester but the American people are so much stronger so much more resolved than any enemy can fully understand. As a nation, we're united and when people harm Americans we don't retreat We don't forget! We take care of those who are grieving And when that's finished they should know... ...We will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice Because HELL is where they will reside

2:12:06 Hell is where they will reside. So that's 2014 bin Laden was so-called killed in 2011 It's about Isis not al Qaeda what is going on? We even made a jingle about it Take that mr student of history Biden well Oh, that's why you chuckled at that comment. Yes! Now you'd think Biden would remember who was being chased to the gates of hell... oh please but it's obvious that it was written by someone who just kind had a vague memory of the comment and they're millennial putting it up on the prompter yeah um yeah That's a great combination. Good catch

2:13:10 Catch of the day. Joe and I were talking about, Joe Rogan and I. And he's like oh you can see it as the cops? And i said i don't know man! I just didn't see it that way. I didn't see it as an insurrection. You know what was their unlawful activity yeah was there shit that should have happened yeah Was it about to topple the country and upend our democracy No, I don't think so. And a lot of things have happened in the capital. Bomb explosions shootings...I mean there's tons of stuff in history with much worse result except for the psychological terror that was brought into play here

2:14:00 And Chris Hayes of MSNBC takes this to a whole new level with some reporter as they're now, you know now they're going after people trying to find them and finding reasons that we should arrest them. I'm sure look if you were trespassing and you were destroying property of course you deserve to be arrested but you also need to be charged with something and you need to be tried so how long has it been now? Half a year six months people are still sitting in cells And they're looking for 500 people total? Well, they got that poor guy who had the horns on his head in solitary. Yeah So the most recent guy they picked up was really for quite legitimate reasons Fans of Lego like myself honestly might be familiar with the brand's architecture line Which I love it's a series of buildable models of famous buildings around the world Okay first of all what kind of nerd is this dude? I LOVE LEGO!

2:14:59 Oh, please. Fans of Lego like myself honestly might be familiar with the brand's architecture line which I love it's a series of buildable models of famous buildings around the world is he not is he 12? Well we don't know because he has that vasectomy look so we don't know if he's by the way that was confirmed somewhere did you see an article No, I didn't. But it wouldn't surprise me. Oh my god! Someone tweeted this that... someone like hey how you feel dancing in the end zone and it was an article that said if you want to look younger it's proven that a vasectomy helps hello science yeah it was there was that was the big thing in the 20s yeah so they just have the book

2:15:40 I'll bet you do. All right, back to Chris with his exciting Legos! If you can put it together, it's more than 1,000 pieces. You can own a detailed model of the building and quote discover its architectural secrets remove the dome to access the rotunda interior depicting the National Statuary Hall with columns eight statues and Tiled floor here comes well Lego may no longer be manufacturing the model but one of the Capitol riders managed to get his hands on it Oh

2:16:22 When 27-year old Robert Morris of Pennsylvania was arrested last month, officers recovered a fully constructed US Capitol Lego set. According to court documents obtained by the website The Smoking Gun they also found a notebook in his car that contained a list titled and I quote step by step to create a hometown militia including reminders like bring assault rifle and four magazines I love this story. The guy is a Lego nerd instead of, you know... Chris saying, wow that's cool fellow Lego nerd too bad he is in trouble. No no no it's crazy He got his hands on a lego model and you can take the top off and view the rotunda as he was planning his militia, his hometown militias attacks So let's bring in the reporter and find out did he take his AR-15 and four magazines to the capital on January 6th

2:17:24 Morse showed up at the Capitol on January 6th, dressed in camouflage wearing a tactical vest containing a pair of scissors and a knife. Oh no! And a compass? He is accused of stealing riot shields from officers leading and organizing rioters in assaults against police and entering the Capitol building through a broken window His next court appearance is scheduled for Tuesday when a judge will decide if he should remain in jail So, now I'm sure... How do you steal a riot shield from a cop? And he was distributing them. He was taking and- I don't know. It took more than one of them, yes! It doesn't sound like he took them off the cop and then gave it to someone else. It sounds like maybe they were stashed somewhere. I don't know. I do not know. Now iIm sure he broke laws but let's move these people on and stop the insinuation which just gets worse in this third and final clip

2:18:16 Scott, this detail... all I can imagine is whoever's searching the home coming upon this being like... Why is he laughing? First it's really serious. Like insurrection of divide and then he's like... This detail, all I can imagine is whoever's searching the home coming upon this being like well this seems relevant to what happened. Yeah Chris a lot of these cases have shapes or patterns or symmetry. Shapes? This case has a shape all its own. Shapes and patterns and symmetries! This is how we catch those damn insurrectionists. To what happened

2:18:57 Yeah, Chris. A lot of these cases have shapes or patterns or symmetry This case has a shape all its own Robert Morris is from State College Pennsylvania And yes they say he came to the Capitol with a tactical vest and those scissors They also said he had a tourniquet The feds say he joined multiple fronts Of what was a multi-front war January 6th First scraping with police outside grabbing a baton coordinating the theft and movement of police shields. Then they say he joined the fracas with the rioters in that West Tunnel against police, then they say you broke into was unlawfully inside a destroyed private hideaway office in the Capitol

2:19:36 We knew some of that from the original charging documents, but it's what the feds said when they tried to get him held in jail pretrial that included some of these new revelations. They say when they arrested him, they found guns. They found that tourniquet. They say they found a handwritten notebook with writings that included step-by-step how to create a hometown militia And yes, they say they found that fully completed Lego set of the US Capitol. They mentioned it just once Chris they didn't provide context as to what they think that meant but prosecutors rarely put things in documents without some reason So let's just view this through two lenses their lens is

2:20:18 Somebody was there, did bad stuff. But wow man we kind of got lucky because this guy I mean he had a booklet that tells you how to assemble a homegrown militia in your hometown He also had scissors He had a knife and he had any hand he had a tourniquet a tourniquet Yeah the tourniquet they're really emphasizing the tourniquets What did the tourniquet consist of? It's usually a piece of cloth You know like a scarf you wrap around something So, none of that is illegal and he has a model Lego of the Capitol building. You could also view it in another way these SAPs were set up by a Jean provocateurs who maybe handed him cop shields and dragged them into some tunnel. The cop shield thing is very fishy Very odd And now this is clearly someone who just

2:21:17 It sounds a little sad really, you know with that kind of stuff at home and it just I don't know this does not sound right to me. This doesn't sound like a domestic violent extremist. No but lock him up and keep him in jail! That's the idea...that is the idea. I find that troubling. Well yes how about a couple global warming clips? You can wake me up in the middle of the night for that John. Well here's the setup now these are all from PBS NewsHour And it goes from the setup, which is all these hot you know these heat waves that are around here I guess there's one around here somewhere. Not here! It's the heat waves and then we go into the setups over here a lot of dog whistles The way i see it global warming set up 1. Ed William we know- Sorry somehow that was 2 my mistake hold on oh that's oh huh?

2:22:17 Oh, there it is. I see extreme heat and drought are baking the western United States Canada again this following hundreds of heat related deaths in the Pacific Northwest last week Record-breaking temperatures are expected to return to California this coming weekend including in the San Joaquin Valley Which is where William Brangham is currently reporting and he joins me now from the city of Visalia where William you were telling us? It's something like a hundred and nine degrees another heat wave coming tell us what it's like an hour officials there prepared uh... judy the technical term is it is unbelievably hot out here uh... the national weather service issued a warning that starting today through the weekend there was an extreme heat alert and they're basically advising people that if you don't have to be outside don't. If you do stay in the shade

2:23:10 be inside if you can, drink plenty of water. I mean the concern as with all of these heat waves is the illness and death and as you mentioned i think people don't have a real appreciation for how much heat waves cause death all over the world it's the leading weather related killer when it comes to climate events The Pacific Northwest... Wait a minute, I need to hear that again. What did he just say? Heat waves cause death all over the world It's the leading weather-related killer when it comes to climate events What do you think are the other climate related or weather related deaths? Tornadoes Hurricanes Avalanches No not avalanche Floods Floods Avalanches Volcanoes No that is not a climate never mind

2:23:59 No, it's weather. He said weather that's the thing you know I should never mind no volcano yeah he said whether Bigfoot Troll room banter cause death all over the world is freezing eating weather-related killer to climate or events The Pacific Northwest heat wave which we just had that you mentioned killed hundreds of people. Two years ago in Europe, many people may not remember tens of thousands of people died in a heat wave there same thing back in 2003 and so this is the ongoing concern that we see more these events that more and more people will lose their lives and it's not like the suffering is spread equally. The elderly, people with certain medical conditions are most likely to die. The homeless

2:24:45 and people who can't choose to work inside, people who don't have adequate housing and people who can afford to pay the high cost of running their electricity in the air conditioning day after day. Wow! Wow. Oh my goodness! That's the setup? Do you hear that even he thought it was odd that he was saying, and in 2003 there were like we know there were 70 thousand people in Europe that died in 2003 so it seems like its even gotten better because last year only 10 thousand so it has gotten better I guess. He felt it was odd too you could tell.

2:25:27 He brings it home because if you listen to all this and you go where are they gonna... You know what's going to happen. Somehow they're gonna blame this on climate change, global warming. Can't they blame it on Republicans? White people! They kind of inadvertently do, but not directly like they have done with the vaccination. But let's see how this goes. And William we know that there is a considerable amount of research being done about the role that climate change is playing in all this what is known at this point about the connection between the heat and climate change?

2:26:04 Judy, this whole field of research is known as attribution science. How much can you attribute a given event to something like climate change? And scientists are getting better and better at zeroing in on which events are really driven or impacted heavily by climate change There was a study just out last week from a European agency that said the Pacific Northwest heatwave we all just experienced, was almost certainly driven in large part by climate change. It could not have happened and been as bad without climate change

2:26:40 June, we know was the hottest June that North America has ever seen in record. Over the last 20 years you know the earth has seen 19 of the warmest year on record and so this is what the climate models have always predicted that climate change keeps going up as we pump more oil and gas and coal into the atmosphere temperatures will go up in these extreme events will go up These heat waves, the research is showing that they're more frequent now. They are starting earlier and they are lasting longer so it is a genuine concern. Okay attribution science? Yeah I'm glad you caught that yeah attribution sciences that did they give a degree in that? Attribution science which is kind of a fancy way of saying finger pointing

2:27:34 is not a science, it's bullcrap. This is bull crap! I'm reading all the science explanations of this... It starts off right off the top. Climate and weather are related What? I thought weather's not climate. Okay, but not the same here we go Climate describes patterns of whether in an area over long stretches of time Weather refers to specific events such as hot days or thunderstorms heat waves droughts wildfires hurricanes tornadoes and floods and Bigfoot Wildfire is not weather. I love it Thank you for catching that one

2:28:18 And this is Science Magazine. When extreme weather occurs, people often want to know if climate change is to blame? However as Stephanie Herring notes there's no way to answer that question. She's a climate scientist at the National Centers for Environmental Information in Boulder, Colorado. Any weather event could happen by chance she explains it could simply be part of the natural variation It's better she says to ask about the influence of climate change Get ready A region's climate sets the stage for an extreme event Scientists can then probe did climate change make some extreme event worse?

2:28:54 Investigating links between climate and extreme weather is known as attribution science. Such studies can be tricky but not impossible, and in recent years scientists have developed ways to do it with ever more confidence! Scientists use computer models to analyze climate data with math Wow, it's with math. So it's a term made up. Great okay

2:29:38 I figured you'd catch it. This wrapped his baby up. I appreciate it and William, given all of this what can local officials... What can residents do to stay safe? Well some of the things that we talked about before go to cooling centers like the one that I'm standing in front of here in Vesalia The larger issue is of course we need to cut our emissions to stop the temperature of the planet going up. But on a more localized level, states and cities and counties there's good research that showing you can design cities better, you can build buildings smarter using better materials more reflective surfaces You could plant more trees that offer a lot of shade those things are all crucial

2:30:21 One of the most important things that researchers I've talked to have said is that strengthening our electrical grid infrastructure... Ah, there it is. Yes! Because right now in Vesalia, there's maybe a hundred thousand people standing around me living around me who are protected by the electricity that is fueling their air conditioners. If we had a massive blackout in the middle of one of these massive heat waves and all of a sudden that is hundreds of thousands of people they would no longer have the protection about air conditioning and you could see real tragic event occurred That's one of the big fears but as these heatwaves become more common

2:31:00 Big stresses on the electrical grid can cause real serious problems It is such a such a big story. Such as serious concern No one no wonder young kids are just Neolithic if this is the app that is being pumped out all day long and we're all gonna die Anyway, who cares those Jim it they have no faith in politicians on either side of any aisle or any wing Nope They've completely given up on that. I don't blame them, these a-holes are responsible for that. Yep Oh my goodness! I agree it's ruining it for everybody It also... I will say do have just one more example of PBS kind of

2:31:53 being headed toward being like the national, just bull crap. And just play this is not to do with the climate change. This is about the hackers and this is a hacker Russian BS and PBS. Listen to listen to the bias of the story head and the assumptions, the unproven assumptions that are just thrown in baseless assumptions. President Biden today pressed Russia's president Vladimir Putin to take action to disrupt ransomware attacks emanating from Russia The leader spoke for an hour by phone in the wake of a string of cyber attacks linked to Russian hackers that paralyzed US businesses. Mr Biden warned that the U.S will quote defend its people and its critical infrastructure Well I'm glad you brought this up And before you go into your analysis, was she talking about Biden when she said the leader?

2:32:47 Oh crap, I missed that. Let me hear that again. President Biden today pressed Russia's president Vladimir Putin to take action to disrupt ransomware attacks emanating from Russia the leader spoke for an hour by... No i think she says the leaders yes so they're leaders they're both leaders. The leaders! You were thinking a leader, a leader glorious leader. 60 Minutes, which is on the CIA broadcasting systems did a very in-depth piece on these hacks. And because it is the CIA broadcasting systems I think its important to go through some clips of this cause every single one can be analyzed from this very perspective that this propaganda, um...it's unproven

2:33:40 And there's all kinds of actors and dumb shit was said. When Presidents Biden and Putin met in Geneva last month, it was the first time that the threat of cyber war eclipsed that of nuclear war between two old superpowers. And SolarWinds was one big reason why Last year, in perhaps the most audacious cyber attack in history, Russian military hackers sabotaged a tiny piece of computer code. This is all right... All of a sudden now it's done! It's Russian computer hackers What happened to the R-Evil network that might have links to it or that at least is

2:34:21 is allowed to operate. Now it's just fact! Do you have any- Baseless fact, baseless. Baseless! Military hackers sabotaged a tiny piece of computer code It's important that we listen to this because they're going for some kind of conflict They want it! They wanted these A-holes buried in a popular piece of software called SolarWinds As we first reported in February the hidden virus spread to- What's that? Sounds Russian. What? SolarWinds, yeah sounds like Russian Well SolarWind is the company they hacked That's the Austin company. I think it is a piece of software called SolarWinds It's the Austin Company As we first reported in February, the hidden virus spread to 18000 government and private computer networks by way of one of those software updates that we all take for granted There it is So first off did you know that went to 18000 government servers? Did you hear that anywhere

2:35:20 No. 18,000 and it happened through an automatic update! After it was installed Russian agents went rummaging through the digital files of the US Departments of Justice State Treasury Energy and Commerce among others And for nine months they had unfettered access to top-level communications... Wouldn't the Chinese be more interested in doing this than the Russians? Why are you talking over the clip?! I'm just asking questions, i can't stop myself. Wouldn't the Chinese be more interested in doing this than the Russians? What are the Russians gonna get out of this?! There is no question it was the Russians! Why... Are you being a difficult person!? Have you had the coronavirus shot?

2:36:02 We're here to talk to you about the Russians. Seriously, there's no proof has been presented this is just now The Russians and let's bring in Microsoft. Brad Smith is president of Microsoft he learned about the hack after the presidential election this past November by that time The stealthy intruders had spread throughout the tech giant's computer network and stolen some of its proprietary source code used to build its software products. More alarming? How the hackers got in, piggybacking on a piece of third-party software used to connect manage and monitor computer networks. I am flabbergasted... Hold on a second!

2:36:50 Microsoft was hacked and they were stealing code? Yes! What is the Russians doing with this, it's China. Russia! I'd like to know why that China wasn't even introduced into this storyline Who else what is who's the country the biggest country one of the biggest countries in the world only topped by India is 100 million people less. So this monster's 1.45 billion people, they don't want to pay for Microsoft Windows! They would love to have their own operating system so let's steal some Microsoft Code! What are the Russians getting? What are the Russians doing with stealing Microsoft Code for what?! They're doing the bidding of Trump

2:37:41 It's unbelievable this reporting. Gets better! The people putting this stuff together think that everyone out here is an idiot? That's why we're doing this tech news segment We continue with Brad Smith from Microsoft What this attacker did was identify network management software from a company called SolarWinds They installed malware into an update for a SolarWinds product When that update went out to 18,000 organizations around the world so did this malware. The Orion platform is the underlying foundation... SolarWinds Orion is one of the most ubiquitous software products you've probably never heard of but to thousands of IT departments worldwide it's indispensable It's made up of millions of lines of computer code

2:38:31 4,032 of them were clandestinely rewritten and distributed to customers in a routine update opening up a secret backdoor to the 18,000 infected networks. 18,000 infected government networks Russia that's an offense you know if you just pin it on Russia without baseless any evidence then people get riled up about it. And Brad Smith, I guess has brought in... you know Microsoft's shoddy DNA is responsible for all problems. I don't want to say that any other platform would necessarily be better if they were the dominant platform but you know Microsoft is pretty jumbly piece of crap and there are these automatic updates that people just trust like morons

2:39:24 Let's continue with Brad. At the sophistication of this attacker, there's an asymmetric advantage for somebody playing offense. Is it still going on? Almost certainly these attacks are continuing I just realized that maybe another angle to this This may be the final kickback at Microsoft after the Jedi contract was cancelled because of course it has to go to Amazon and Bezos Maybe this is also partially

2:40:13 Yeah, Microsoft's... your code is no good. You can't keep the Russians out." Why would Brad Smith even agree to this interview which is clearly not great for Microsoft? Couple of the other things, I think all these theories are good. Do we have any conclusive evidence? No not yet A couple of things one who comes up with this 1,000 engineers to create what a couple of pieces of shit code Are you kidding me I'm not buying that in the least, a thousand engineers. We analyzed it and took 1,000 engineers! Well maybe if we took 10 engineers they'd do a better job. Anything you want to do on Microsoft Windows takes thousands of engineers The other thing is once you mention asymmetric attacks this is nothing...the Russians have never done asymmetric anything The asymmetric stuff comes from the Middle East

2:41:06 That's where all the asymmetric warfare comes from, everything comes from the Middle East. And another bad actor who is not mentioned at all is Iran! And how about North Korea? North Korea was the one that ransomwared Sony Yeah. We'll skip that analysis You don't hear about those guys at all anymore Well, you'd think they mentioned North Korea because it's a phony baloney thing to do in the first place but Iran is not I mentioned this on the show before when i went and visited with Cloudflare everyone knows cloud flare They told me that the number one hacker in the world is Iran there are all these attacks come from where they get all their customers because of Iran attacks for some reason and then have to use Cloudflare to block them

2:41:48 And did their number one period and that's they're never mentioned in these reports Yeah, we want to bring the guy from cloudflare and he would know more about this than Brad's Brads Whatever his last name is Smith. Brad Smith is very famous He used to run the whole gaming division Xbox and then it was out I put that yeah that convinces me You know maybe get me riled up with ya maybe you should just blame it on the French It'd be funny. Yeah, that would make more sense! Alright let's go back to Brad Smith you know you said it was

2:42:26 Thousands of people. I mean, they must have had complete troll farms and hacker farms and everything ready... thousands of people! The US Justice Department acknowledged the Russians spent months inside their computers accessing email traffic but the department won't tell us exactly what was taken It's the same at Treasury Commerce The NIH Energy Even the agency that protects and transports our nuclear arsenal The hackers also hit the biggest names in high-tech. So what does that target list tell you? I think this target list tells us that this is clearly a foreign intelligence agency, it exposes the secrets potentially of the United States and other governments as well as private companies...I don't think anyone knows for certain how all of this information will be used but we do know this – it's in the wrong hands

2:43:27 So we don't really know what they have. Who's running this outfit? We don't really know what they got, we don't really know how long they were there or what they were looking at...we don't really know! Is that our gov-that's our government and it started six months ago so this squarely falls under the Biden administration I think they're afraid to pin it on China because China could eat their lunch in a heartbeat at this point They're so inadequate and just not functional these people And I think this is part of the proof, is that well they did it to Ukraine. We all remember that! For years the Russians have tested their cyber weapons on Ukraine

2:44:09 NotPetya, a 2017 attack by the GRU Russia's military spy agency used the same tactics as the SolarWinds attack sabotaging a widely-used piece of software to break into thousands of Ukraine's networks. But instead of spying it ordered devices to self destruct. It literally damaged more than 10% of that nation's computers in a single day The television stations couldn't produce their shows because they relied on computers. Automated teller machines stopped working, grocery stores couldn't take a credit card Now what we saw with this attack was something that was more targeted but it just shows how if you engage in this kind of tactic you can unleash an enormous amount of damage and havoc. The computer self-destructed? Another report I missed!

2:45:08 Yeah, we didn't get that. If computers in Ukraine had self-destructed from a virus this would be something that would be talked about We've got dudes named Ben and Bernadettes all over the place. They would have known this, I'm just not buying that." So now they bring in Chris Inglis. A couple more quickies here... Chris Inglis spent 28 years commanding the nation's best cyber wires at the National Security Agency, seven as its deputy director and now sits on the Cyberspace Solarium Commission created by Congress to come up with new ideas to defend our digital domain

2:45:45 Why didn't the government detect this? The government is not looking on private sector networks. It doesn't surveil private sector networks, that's a responsibility that's given over to the private sector. FireEye found it on theirs many others did not. The government did not find it on their networks That's a disappointment Disappointment is an understatement! The Department of Homeland Security spent billions on a program called INS The guy asked the question, why didn't the government detect this? And instead of saying they didn't because he says it later in his answer. Because I guess 16000 government computers were infected according to the report. 18000 computer... Government Computer Networks is the report! Okay, 18000 government computer networks which is a lot of computers got infected and they didn't get caught and so then he asked the guy point blank

2:46:39 Why didn't the government catch this? It was 18,000 networks. And the guy says well because we got nothing to do with the private sector! That's how he answered it that's correct Play it again so everyone gets a good feeling for this bullshit artist. Chris Inglis spent 28 years commanding the nation's best cyber wires at the National Security Agency, seven as its deputy director and now sits on the Cyberspace Solarium Commission created by Congress to come up with new ideas to defend our digital domain Why didn't the government detect this? The government is not looking on private sector networks. It doesn't surveil private sector networks, that's a responsibility that's given over to the private sector. FireEye found it on theirs many others did not. The government did not find it on their networks That's a disappointment Disappointment is an understatement. The Department of Homeland Security spent billions on a program called Einstein Stop stop again

2:47:41 So he kind of offhandedly, it seems like he's answering the question but the question was actually why? Yeah. Not... The guy never asked answers to the question why He says it was a disappointment What about with the why part of the question Why?! You know if I ask you something Why did you do that Adam and you say ah is a disappointment That's not the answer to the question Yeah, but you know that's why we're not on CBS making the big bucks No We don't follow up on this stuff The Department of Homeland Security spent billions on a program called Einstein remember that we laughed our asses over that Wait a minute. Do we still have a clip of that Einstein crap? That way I remember that being very funny Einstein it's got to be a long time ago

2:48:34 Yeah, I got a lot of Feinstein but no Einstein. All right we continue to detect cyber attacks on government agencies the Russians outsmarted it Okay So and this was I think this was during Obama the Einstein project wasn't it? It's that long ago I can't remember I had to do some research all right so Get ready cuz we're gonna wrap this up with more amazing comments from this guy this hack happened on American soil. It went through networks based in the United States Are our defense capabilities constrained? The U.S. intelligence community, the US Department of Defense can suggest what the intentions of other nations are based upon what they learn in their rightful work overseas but they can't turn around and focus their unblinking eye on the domestic infrastructure that winds up making it more difficult for us He doubles down by avoiding the obvious 18 000 government networks

2:49:37 snooping mail, doing all kinds of stuff we don't even really know and all he can say is well you know we don't really have the power to look at commercial networks. This sounds to me like a move towards we need to monitor everybody's network And I think there's one additional piece. This is where the CIA comes in, this is my favorite. It's hard to kind of get something like this completely out of the system and they certainly don't understand all the places that it's gone too all of the manifestations of where this virus where this software still lives and that's going to take some time and the only way you'll have absolute confidence that you've gotten rid of it is to get rid of the hardware to get rid of the systems Wow

2:50:18 So unless you get rid of all the computers and all the computer networks, you will not be sure that you have gotten this out of the systems. You will not be. Ooh baby! Hardware bonanza coming up and who knows what's going to be embedded in the new hardware? Everybody swap it out! Well ya know this is part of the thing Microsoft is up too with Windows 11 Do tell you have to have an hour could oh yeah, you have to have a certain chip in order to load it You have to have a little chip in there that then calls home and make sure that your legit. Yeah done this Jim It won't do anything into stop what we just heard about as far as I can tell but

2:51:00 It's another way of getting in there, you know. They want to get they want to spy on everyone Yeah and and they want to spy on every government computer This is the CIA I'm telling you this is a CIA story CIA They're obsessed with Russia They haven't been too successful in China their agents get killed so much The agent all got killed in China they've done nothing about it Let's go focus on Russia because we can't beat those guys with all those scary And this is A, to create strife with Russia. And oh man that's a bad idea! It's also a setup for a cyber pandemic it's a set up for all kinds of things including forcing corporations out of fear maybe going direct you know against

2:51:48 insurance is important in these games to get people to upgrade their hardware with the new chips and everything so the CIA will have even less trouble spying on anything and anybody they want along with the NSA. Final clip. And you could it be I could see this happening where these agencies have a some microservice architecture that you should go through which provides you protection. Sure, for your protection. And you go through and use this microservices architecture that the CIA or the NSA whoever... Or maybe some even new agency that just monitors corporate computer systems. It's probably run by the Chinese behind it all making it even easier for them!

2:52:29 This is ridiculous what's going on. Last clip of the series Since our story first aired, the hacks have kept coming and one of the people you just heard from former NSA deputy director Chris Inglis was chosen as the country's first national cyber director reporting directly to President Biden President Putin for his part still denies Russia's involvement in solar winds So this guy has been promoted The whole thing, beautiful package on CBS 60 Minutes. Thank you very much Neil Jones Clip Custodian he put that together Very impressive work Well stinks to high heaven This is... Sadly you're right I know! I think we can expect some fun stuff? Maybe No i'm actually kind of excited about it Let's see what their next move is Your Move

2:53:32 Well China's making some moves that are kind of interesting and have you heard the tribulations, trials and tribulations of Tesla in China? No I have not. This is the same thing that happened with Hollywood. You know, you go over there and they treat you like a king and next thing you know you're getting no money out of this deal. I mean first they shower you with money and hookers and blow... And then they take away your industry. Listen to these two clips. This is Tesla 1 in China. Tesla in China seems to be having one problem after another It was a company that really seemed like it could do no wrong for a long time

2:54:10 But over the last several months, we've seen a number of regulatory issues. We've seen a lot of bad press in the Chinese media, a lot of criticism on Chinese social networks all which in a country like China is in some way tolerated this would not be happening if the government were not okay on some level with Tesla coming in for this sort of criticism So clearly this sort of honeymoon that Tesla was having in China, just incredible success almost unheard of success for a foreign company of almost any kind has come to an end and they're into much more difficult period in what is the world's largest automotive market. Hmm... Where was this report from? It gets also coordinated by the central government. Wait where was this report from?

2:55:00 I think this is NTD. Okay, I believe it was NTD but it could have been... But here we listen to part two this where gets even more weird because you'll hear Originally in February of this year there was some news that regulators including some quite important Chinese market regulation agencies had summoned Tesla executives for meetings over what the government referred to as quality and safety issues Then we had a very strange incident at the Shanghai Auto Show in April where woman of a protester really Got into the show climbed on top of a Tesla car at the company's booth and began shouting back

2:55:43 at a brake failure. Her Model 3 had nearly killed four or five members of her family, and that again is something that went out uncensored on Chinese social media. It went viral. It was heavily covered in the state-controlled media so there was a sense that the government was tolerant of people bringing Tesla in for a fair bit of criticism and not something that's quite new. And then most recently We had news that there will be a recall in effect of all of Tesla's cars in the entire country, just about. All over 280 thousand vehicles to deal with an issue... How many? I missed it! How many vehicles? 280 thousand A recall in effect of all of Tesla's cars in the entire country just about over 280 thousand vehicles To deal with an issue with the autopilot software Yep

2:56:41 We want all your cars back in the factory. I am no fan of battery cars, but i came across one that...I'm kind of liking the Aptera A-P-T-E-R-A? No Have you heard of this? I've heard of it but I just not visualizing it and I'm not familiar with it. Okay aptera a p t e r a dot u s This is a battery car It's a two seater three wheel vehicle That the whole roof, the whole top of the car is a solar panel. Oh yeah I've seen this thing And because it's so light it can do 1000 miles on a single charge but as you're driving It's charging

2:57:26 I kind of like this. It's a dorkmobile, come on! If i drove that here in the hill country there'd be some good old boy with a truck on top of that shooting at me monster truck wheels crashing down but I kind of like it. You know? It has a whole vibe yeah...it's a dorkmobile you're right but I like it it's kinda cool We have one of our producers that works for NIO, the company in China that is a manufacturer's competitor to the Tesla. There are two battery car companies in China and I think they've stolen Tesla technology and they're just going to move it over to the Chinese companies and they did pulling all the Teslas off the road not to give any so nobody gets any ideas if this over for Tesla in China And this gonna be interesting how Elon Musk deals with this

2:58:19 Yeah, and by the way if I was Elon Musk And I had this relationship with China where this is happening do not go up in your rocket Well as long as he's CEO. There's no way He's going to do that you cannot do that a CEO there's no way that that can be permitted That's why how can now can Bezos do it? Remember? He just resigned he just resigned last week ah Branson is Branson his executive chairman or whatever these not yeah running the show Elon can't do it. There's no way, no way! So he just has to... But believe me I don't think he wants to do it Before we take a break looking at some supply chain news our producers have been very busy got some nice charts and graphs the spot rate for a 40-foot container from Shanghai to Los Angeles that's just for the container is now $9,631

2:59:19 which is 229% higher than a year ago according to the Drury World Container Index. Interesting In the meantime, another producer writes in I don't know the context of this environment but there's a shortage on Pepsi drinks that's all i know so I don't know more than that but be on the lookout for it And this has got to be the supply chain issue of the week. The coronavirus pandemic has sent supply chains into a tailspin first it was toilet paper then it was ketchup packets gnomes semiconductors now its rubber multiple factors are leading to a major rubber shortage around the world This could be getting a lot worse

3:00:07 We could be on the cusp of a rubber apocalypse. The global natural rubber market was valued at nearly $40 billion in 2020, but demand for rubber is really continuing to increase One analysis predicts the rubber market could be worth nearly 68.5 billion dollars by 2026 Rubber is a critical raw material. Just think, anytime you're going anywhere by car plane or even by foot You're using rubber But rubber is also used in your personal protective equipment like gloves and masks Like the elastics that stretch behind your ears plus it's used in literal rubber bands

3:00:48 And then there are hair ties, underwear, erasers, condoms and more. Rubber ducks though? Those are plastic! It's used in more than 40 000 commercial products You could call it the shortage Some people are referring to it as a supply chain disruption Rubber apocalypse! Rubber is a synthetic product that comes from oil refineries Oh they show trees in this report Who uses natural rubber anymore?! I don't know anything about rubber, that's why i'm happy that you have this response. This whole report was based on trees and rubber trees and showing the bark or whatever from the rubber trees in the warehouses Well, I'm sure it is used for some things but most of the rubbers they're bitching and moaning about comes from oil refining It's a synthetic product, synthetic rubber

3:01:49 It's reminisce- There was never enough rubber to go around when it was coming from the damn rubber trees. Okay, so maybe this is bull crap? Well I don't know if it's bull crap there's something up and I don't know why this report is here but I didn't hear about this...I'll look into it. Well here here's my thinking I remember my mom rest her soul I remember my mom talking about World War II and how they had to support our boys overseas by not wearing pantyhose so that they would have enough nylon for parachutes. And in fact, the women would draw a dark line up the back of their leg to give an illusion that they were wearing pantyhose

3:02:32 And it was really hose, pantyhose is really after the war. Hose? Okay. I'm sorry I wasn't around then and that's what I remember. Pantyhose is fairly modern Do you think there could be some similar thing here like do it for the boys do it for the troops we need rubber No no this bullshit story I'd like to know I don't know what basis for it is The way she revealed the story she throws in chips because of COVID chips! I'm not buying that I don't know. I would, I would say that's a news source. That would be dubious was it cheddar Newsy? What's the other one is the third one? Uh, cheddar Newsy is there a third one Yeah, there's a third one as a lame news thing is called. I don't know what it's called. I can't think of a third. It's all on Pluto you kind of have me after cheddar so I'm not sure and Newsy is just

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3:12:57 Potty indeed, and it was up in Alaska this past weekend. This is Lane Sir Lane at the Anchorage meetup here with two four six eight What do you call them fans I guess? And my lovely wife Lisa In the morning Cutter Stone Hi, Lori. Oh sorry going in a circle Hopefully former douchebag Jim Justice This is Shane O'Hare from Noah Jenna Social and we wanted to tell everybody from Anchorage Alaska In the morning! Alright Anchorage thank you

3:13:39 A lot of people were doing 10-year reunions of the OG Hot Pockets Tour meetup, which is just heartwarming. I believe there was one in... well it must have been all around Virginia, think where did we start off that? We started off... It was Virginia! Yeah well no it was definitely Virginia because we borrowed our dame's RV the one with you when all the poop came out of the toilet and rolled forward when I braked Anyway, Glenwood which I think is in that area they just had a spring meetup OG Hot Pockets Tour reunion of sorts. Hey guys it's the Rocky Mountain Oyster Shuckers Meet up in Glenwood Springs this is Sir Ready Killawater the chat room...in the morning!

3:14:24 This is a blue jay on no agenda social in the morning. Hey Adam, who chated with you Lee? Oh good Yeah, hey this is JD Miller former producer We're sitting out my yard where you and Mickey on the Hot Pockets to that's along here with me And my son and my father several years ago we had a great meetup, and it was really fantastic I want to see you guys are too. Thank for all of this And we're going to be doing some more of this here in the roaring Fork Valley. So thank you very much! In the morning! Thank you very much Then, we have the final report boots on the ground The Montreal Slave Levy Spirits Freedom Meetup Coming from your millennial host We are live here at the Freedoms and Spirits Slave Levy meet up in Montréal Québec Excuse-moi dans le matin, in the morning

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3:16:13 This coming Wednesday the Vancouver Island Bastille Day. Oh John, Bastille... The Bastille Day! 14th of July! Yeah we should put that as a gimmick. Google will probably pick up a couple hundred bucks You are such a whore Victoria BC Canada that'll be at six o'clock at the Six Mile Pub and then on Thursday show day the Denver area rainstick. The Rain Stick was very successful in Colorado I don't know if you heard so they're doing a meetup which is the Denver area rain stick victims meet up

3:16:49 630, be in the City Park Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It's never good is it? You're burning up you got no water we shake the stick we give your water now your victims it's a victimhood thing it has to stop And also on the 15th Thursday, Charlotte's Thursday 3rd. Thursday monthly meet-ex 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern and that is in Charlotte. Oh my god we just have so much throughout the entire month of July well into August please go and find one of these Meetups they're completely independently decentralized it's really a great

3:17:28 A great way just to meet people who you know at least you'll be safe with them. You don't have to have the same opinions, look the same come from the same backgrounds. You have one thing in common and your all citizens of Gitmo Nation Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where there will be a Meetup near you If you can't find one, why not start one yourself? It's easy! NoagendaMeetups.com I have only one ISO. I have three okay well you're probably gonna nail this let me play I got three but one of them is disqualified because it's you

3:18:24 I don't know even how I've ran into this. Hold on, let me see... No no no no no no no no if-if-if-if Was that me? Yeah Where'd you get that from? No no no no no no no if-if-if-if That's gotta be old! Yeah it's very old Making fun of Obama Then I got actually thank you and it says Ido instead of ISO Okay Thankyou thankyou thankyou Okay. Yeah, it's too messy and then nothing! There's nothing like it. Hmm here is the only one I have...I don't know if its a contender. Pokemon in the rear end? Pokemon in the rear end? Pokemon in the rear end? Send that one to Comet Strip Blogger. Uh...I think- I think the one that was nothing is okay It's really borderline. There's nothin' like it. Yeah okay. It's okay

3:19:28 I mean, yes that's what i said. I said it was okay yeah you both we both know it's really no good and it's not happening uh let me see...I think I have one little fun little thing here before we go oh actually do you want an update on the-? I'll save that for Thursday! I have to give you an update on my septic system because it really is miraculous. I've learned now that there's a difference in this is the aerobic system You know, it's worth discussing but we can do that on Thursday. And somebody called you out for mixing the term grey water with black water Yeah yeah that was dumb and I think as i said it I knew that was messed up um...yeah that was dumb So here- I've got a couple of things I could finish with I could do the TikTok hit piece that was on NTD which has been sitting around

3:20:20 And maybe we should just finish with that. Let me do one quickie, one in between... One of my biggest pet peeves is the incessant use of the term community by the media Black and brown communities which is so insulting LGBTQ communities insulting but But... A Boston pride organization is dissolving. The group has promoted equality for the LGBTQ community for more than 50 years, but volunteers say they've received complaints that they are not inclusive enough and in a statement they say they do not wish to stand in the way of change. Fifty years this group has been together

3:21:02 this community and now they're dissolving because people are complaining they're not inclusive enough. What happened to the community? I don't understand, there was a community! Don't you all agree in the community?" It's reminding me of that clip that you might be able to find which goes way back it's like four or five six years old from KP Action Local Station where they were- The softball team was kicked out of the gay league because they weren't gay enough Remember that clip? Would it be under softball or gay, I don't remember. It's a very funny clip. Oh gay... there is not much under gay here only 8000 pages. Which station would have been maybe? KPIX. KPIX was listed under that. No i dont think i can find it. Nah he's not going to find it. Yeah its too bad

3:22:05 But yeah, I got a couple of things we can do the tick tock tick talk hit piece. Yeah that I thought was I also have a Michael Avenatti supercut of the media fawning over him now that he's been Sentenced to two years in jail both okay? Which one you want yours first or the super? I'll give mine first and i'll finish it that way, can be attentive. TikTok insiders reportedly told CNBC the popular social media app is tightly controlled by its Chinese parent company And that includes access to its US users' data. Some cyber security experts say this could effectively end up feeding the Chinese regime, whose approach to intelligence includes the collection of vast amounts of data. A recruiter along with four other former employees... What?

3:22:56 I'm gonna say you mean like hacking 18,000 networks? You think it means something like that. Probably. Which to intelligence includes the collection of vast amounts of data A recruiter along with four other former employees told CNBC they're concerned that TikTok's Chinese parent company ByteDance has access to American user data and is closely involved in TikTok's product development and decision-making They told the outlet there are almost no boundaries between the two companies Cyber security expert James Lewis says he is not surprised by the report. He says there is no respect for the rule of law or human rights in China because TikTok is so popular, has immense amounts of data on its users and there's a concern that that data could be shared with the Chinese government for intelligence or surveillance purposes

3:23:49 TikTok is a popular social app based in Los Angeles. It was launched internationally in 2017 by ByteDance, now it has 100 million monthly users in the US most of them teens and young adults TikTok's former employees told CNBC when an American employee tried to get a list of global TikTok users, including Americans with some specific features. They had to reach out to a data team in China for access the China team could pull up all the information TikTok had about those users with their specific IDs The sources said this is common practice at Tiktok Huh? Well I have some thoughts

3:24:28 First of all tick tocks algorithm is the best in the business It is I agree it. I mean if you're if you're interested in my favorite, is the the clothes change? Hello I keep telling Tina I want to do one of those What it's a lot of edit. I don't know how to do it. I'm not a tick-tocker. I'm a podcaster damnit Not a tick-tocker So it's really, really good. And if you like cake you get to just cake stuff It really knows what you want and the advertising is... The algorithm is just so incredibly good

3:25:09 I also think that this may be part of a discreditation program that we'll see ongoing as it's really hurting Instagram. All the hip hoppers are leaving Instagram, well not leaving but they're really posting on TikTok That's where music is being broken these days? Not on the radio no no its on TikTok and they bought you know did the whole same thing They have like the whole catalog They know how to do it It's really good And in addition to that, I don't know if you know this but since Apple's new iOS release advertising is now shifting to Android because they just can't get the data anymore. This is really new. Explain! Apple now forces people to acknowledge and opt-in if they want to share information ie tracking data from apps they use on the iPhone

3:26:09 And most people don't like that, so it's no. And now the data is drying up particularly hurting Facebook Instagram they've got troubles now and The ad buyers since they can get a lot of extra data or all the data They're used to from the leaky ass Google managed Android They're just shifting their money over there And I don't know, I think there's big changes ahead. So TikTok may play a role in that? I'm not sure. They've got a lot of data so what is that either we're discrediting them to get rid of them or we want them? I'm not sure. We'll find out soon enough What i did realize and I didn't know this Apple actually has an advertising network

3:26:56 And they are now going to give, and the main was on their apps like their news app and their weather app. That's where they sell ads? I didn't know that. They give their buyers extra information that you can get with any of the other systems which some are calling a problem. I think that they're probably really smart You know, it's like you do a buy on Apple. You find out who it is or at least some identifiers and then you do a small little test buy so that you know what works and then just take all the rest of your money over to Android and deploy exactly what you learned I think thats the way to go Yeah its kicking the tires and buying online

3:27:47 Alright, Michael Avenatti. This is now... Oh my goodness! How many years ago does he on the scene? About four I'd say when the Russian collusion started well actually it was before Russian collusion it was the Stormy Daniel's. Yeah, the Stormy Daniels thing. I believe in the span of a few weeks he'd appeared on cable news channels 157 times. Yeah, they were talking on MSNBC about getting him to run for president So this is a supercut It's been going around but not everyone sees these things

3:28:24 of the mainstream media, in particular MSNBC other NBC related services and CNN just drooling over him earlier this week. He was, he's already been in custody for a while I think. He was sent to jail for extorting Nike very much like he ripped off other clients including Stormy Daniels and it is just a sleaze ball! Everybody knew it except the mainstream because he was going after Donald Trump! HE WAS HERO OF THE STUPID!!! Donald Trump's worst nightmare Michael Avenatti.

3:29:11 out there saving the country. Don Meacham says he may be the savior of the republic. You are something of a folk hero now I owe Michael Avenatti an apology, i've been saying enough already Michael! I've seen you everywhere what do you have left to say? I was wrong brother...you have A LOT TO SAY! I am just dying to hear what you think These people all like you I'm the only person right here Donald Trump fears more than Robert Miller you guys are the tip of the spear that's going to take down Donald Trump. Michael Avenatti is a beast Okay, that's true He's a beast I hand it to her and I hand it to Michael Avenatti But he has a bigger calling here That being a lawyer is minimal compared to what he's doing No one has talked tougher directly to Donald Trump on TV than Michael Avenatti And Donald Trump is afraid to mention his name It's fascinating Donald Trump is terrified

3:30:02 of Michael Avenatti. He has Trump around for his money more than anybody else, Michael Avenatti. Existential threat to the Trump presidency The Democrats could learn something from you You are messing with Trump a lot more that they are He has no doubt created sheer panic in Donald Trump's very fragile mind Michael Avenatti is laying down the law as guest co-host. And is he really thinking about running for president? One reason why I'm taking you seriously as a contender, is because of your presence on cable news You look at the field of Democrats right now and Avenatti's the one who stands out If they decide they value a fighter most Yes People would be foolish to underestimate Michael Avenati Yeah go ahead believe everything they say They're so right these people Right on! Pretty much says it all

3:30:53 And that wraps up our deconstruction for today's episode 1363. Happy birthday Jay, happy birthday to the love of my life Tina Marie The Keeper and coming up next we've got Mo Facts with Adam Curry part two of the We Are People 2-part series it's a long one but you can hear that on noagendastream.com go to trollroom.io End of show mixes we have the clip custodian himself with a very violent nice end-of-show mix there We've got I will play that Chris Wilson pooping in the streets And Tom Starkweather will take us home as we go door to door coming to you from the heart of Hill Country, Texas FEMA region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry man from Northern Silicon Valley where

3:31:42 The Fog Bank is still out there and, uh... Well I got a birthday party tonight. Good- I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday Please join us and remember us at dvorak dot org slash n-a Until then everybody Go Italy! Adios Amalfos For those of you who haven't been vaccinated, because you don't think it's... You want to go through it. It doesn't hurt. It is accessible. It's free. It's available and not only- Don't think about yourself Think about your family. Think about those around you Hey Bill what happened to Jim? He's dead? Oh the vaccine must have been working Dress his bed! Yeah! Toe bananas

3:32:31 Fresh as bath, yeah Toe bananas, toe bananas, toe bananas These are some of the smartest people on the planet. So let's just do it! You stamp it out, you manage the hell out of this operation. Incredibly wonky technical thing. Right turns left turns right turns left turns We will not stop working Viruses cannot mutate if they don't replicate Unbelievable Can't control mother nature? No one can? Hell's altar They did dump I'm gonna roll this down like GTA Then they may take our land

3:33:17 But they'll never take our freedom! We're gonna get you vaccinated and my dog is gonna like it Judgment is coming out that we may be able to even communicate the vaccine, the new variant to your pets Oh no Lock it down, lockdown stay at home order Dress his bed Toe bananas Press his back, yeah! Toe bananas, toe bananas.

3:34:04 Lightweights. What do you mean, lightweights? No no San Francisco's got them they got RVs they've got trailers they got cook people living in their cars they get people on the streets and live living in tents are shooting up it's unbelievable hundreds of thousands of homeless eating from garbage cans in America whooping on the streets in San Francisco and then there's nothing better when your pooping on the street All around the world, where you put your feet. Summer's here and the smell is right through here And in the streets Here in San Francisco In the streets Drop one in New Orleans The New York shitter In the streets All you need is homeless More homeless And junkies everywhere

3:35:04 There'll be crazies crying and feces flying And in the streets, it doesn't matter if you're there Just as long as you don't care on everybody Take a dump, blame it on President Trump Yeah we're pooping We're pooping in the streets On now we're pooping in the streets How did anyone know that the dick of poop

3:35:44 On a San Francisco street, how did anyone know that it was 20 pounds? It's like 20 pounds of human waste! Like how did anyone... Hey, you're walking down the street. What is that Bill? Oh it looks like a bag of poop. Hold on a second I've got a postal scale with me All your drive times are going to come in in the green this morning so no issues to worry about for your morning commute 30% of US adults still don't want to get the COVID vaccine, but they may not have much of a choice. 24 hours every Friday night, 24 hours this month. Unfortunately for Americans, the Biden administration views high gas prices as a feature not a bug. One targeted community by community door-to-door outreach

3:36:32 remaining Americans vaccinated by ensuring they have the information they need on how both safe and accessible the vaccine is. We get a text back with places you can get a shot... When you guys walk up to your door and somebody says they haven't gotten vaccinated, what do you tell them then? We say well this is your lucky day because we're going to sign you up for our vaccine! I'm not sure if such a program actually exists or President Biden was confused There are proposals to severely restrict freedom of movement for people who aren't vaccinated. But now all of a sudden he says, and by the way we're going to send grassroots low-level government workers to your house and while some people may see this as a public education push which is always a good thing the more education the better other people may see this as confrontational you can limit individual rights to protect public health and one way you can do it in that case is require vaccination or text

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