Episode 1213 · Thursday, 6 February 2020

Kung Flu

A Harvard scientist is arrested for Chinese ties while global markets reel from the coronavirus outbreak and the DNC faces scrutiny over suppressed Iowa polling.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1213

About this episode

The Department of Justice has indicted Harvard Professor Charles Lieber for concealing $50,000 monthly payments from the Wuhan University of Technology under China’s Thousand Talents Plan. This high-profile arrest coincides with a U.S. public health emergency as the coronavirus outbreak triggers the first federal quarantine in 50 years at a California air base. While Secretary Alex Azar seeks ground truth from Beijing, reports of rapid hospital construction in Hubei suggest the facilities may function more as containment prisons than medical centers.

Global supply chains face immediate disruption as Starbucks, Toyota, and Google shutter Chinese operations while Air Canada suspends international flights. Dr. Anthony Fauci warns that detectable virus levels fluctuate in patients, complicating release criteria for the 195 Americans currently in isolation. Meanwhile, domestic political tensions rise as CNN cancels the final Iowa poll following a suspected Bernie Sanders surge, leading to accusations that the Democratic National Committee is manipulating the primary schedule to favor Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg.

Cultural oddities emerge as Mike Bloomberg attempts to humanize his campaign by shaking a dog’s muzzle, and Cindy McCain breaks her silence on Jeffrey Epstein with a series of controversial claims. The Senate impeachment trial reaches a stalemate over witness testimony, prompting Senator Chuck Schumer to decry the proceedings as perfidy. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct these events alongside the latest numerology of Palindrome Day and the rise of the Titania McGrath woke media hoax.


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CHAPTER 01 / 53 Discussion

Super Bowl Sunday and Coronavirus Racial Profiling

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Austin and Silicon Valley on February 2, 2020. They discuss the significance of the date as a palindrome and the overlap of Super Bowl Sunday and Groundhog Day. Initial reports from the Netherlands and France suggest Asian individuals are facing racial profiling and wearing "I am not a virus" signs due to the emerging coronavirus outbreak.

austin· silicon valley· super bowl sunday· groundhog day· racial profiling

00:00 No, no. No thanks. Watching Sander Surge and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's the thirty-third day of the year It's also 2 to 2020 There is a lot of things going on today I am John C. DeVore Is Crackpot and Buzzkill In The Morning

00:38 Well-timed, well prepared as always. Very impressed! It's Super Bowl Sunday! It's Groundhog Day! It's all these things it's everything! Woohoo! That's right... Oh my goodness how you doing? I'm doing better than the Chinese. Yeah Chinese everywhere there's a Christina was telling me that in the Netherlands, you know everyone if you see Chinese walking around or anyone with a surgical mask for that matter walk around them. There's a lot of...the French Asians are saying that they're being racially profiled carrying signs Je suis non pas un virus

CHAPTER 02 / 53 Discussion

Wuhan Flu Jingle Selection and Naming Controversy

The hosts review four listener-submitted jingles for the ongoing health crisis, debating whether to use the term "Wuhan Flu" or "Coronavirus." Dvorak objects to the term "flu" as a misnomer for a coronavirus, while Curry presents "Kung Flu Fighting" parodies. They ultimately select a jingle styled after Bob Seger for future segments.

wuhan flu· kung flu· coronavirus· jingles· bob seger

01:29 I'm not a virus. People can be so cruel. This came up at the dinner table conversation, apparently JC dug deep into the whole thing and found some interesting little factoids here that may be something people can at least discuss before we start. We have a small conundrum. We need a quick sidebar for production meeting I have not one, not two, no three but four Wuhan flu jingles to choose from for the segment and i think we might as well listen to all of them just so we understand. Okay first I want to voice my objection I want to, hello? Yeah! You said you want to voice your objection. Well, I was in agreement with the idea of calling it the Wuhan flu but since it's not an influenza virus per se It's a misnomer and I don't like to promote such things And so I've gone back into calling it the coronavirus Well good, you can do that Everybody wants Kung Flu fighting And only Wuhan dying

02:34 And it was a little bit frightening So that's the Kung Flu fighting from Sir Chris Sadly no one picked up on your objection of coronavirus. Wuhan flu I thought I am supposed to do Didn't know but I gave it to you Now we all got the Wuhan flu Alright so we've got that one The Wuhan flu seemed to be a popular phrase And the last candidate... It's time now for another Wuhan flu update.

03:26 All right, so I have some feelings about these. The fourth one was clearly racist. Yeah. So I think that could be dropped the second one. I like the best. The second one George Thorogood cloned No no not George Thorogood it's Bob Seger Bob Seger, George Thurgood. Bob Seger pretty similar but that one I like the best the first one is i think had the most potential but it didn't have enough snapping sounds and other kind of sound yeah you need to so this is the one that's that's the one you like right? Yeah I think so all right good good good old time Wuhan flu

CHAPTER 03 / 53 Discussion

Han Chinese Genetic Susceptibility to Coronavirus Claims

A discussion of preliminary research suggests Han Chinese and Japanese populations may be more susceptible to the coronavirus due to specific lung cell structures. The hosts speculate on the lack of ethnocentric data in epidemiological studies, suggesting a potential cover-up regarding bioengineered viruses. They link the high level of concern in China to these specific genetic vulnerabilities.

han chinese· ace2· lung damage· ethnicity· bioengineered viruses

04:09 Yes. Now, is this the research paper that's been floating around? Is that what Buzzkill Jr looked into with the inserted for HIV-like... No. Whatever they're called proteins? No. Oh okay He started looking at ethnocentric data regarding disease vectors And he's such an exciting man to hang around. It's interesting to me, too. I'm just so he found that there was a number of papers written. He's actually listed on one of them because he was so insistent on some of this stuff that he's been uncovering which is it looks as if and this is just preliminary. This guy kept telling him to write it up. I'll write it up if he doesn't want to do it

04:56 And I'd like to see some more evidence of this, but i'm just going to tell you the preliminary look at this. There's a lot of evidence that coronavirus in particular is more susceptible by Chinese than by Caucasians. Because of the same phenomenon that makes it so Chinese can smoke a lot, there's a couple of cells in the lungs that are good for fixing lung damage those same cells are the ones coronavirus attaches itself to. And it tends to be not just Chinese though, which makes it interesting... Also Japanese I think? Well some Japanese but the main target is Han Chinese Wow that's pretty specific! You could not get any specific or...? Yes apparently it is. Uyghurs and he traces a couple of interesting point tidbits with SARS in 2002-2003 when SARS was out

05:58 Of all places, of all I would call shithole countries in the world right next to China namely Indonesia there were no deaths there. And all the cases of deaths in North America were centered around Toronto and a specific part of Chinatown Yeah, there's a in this in the show notes. I have an actual list that shows the susceptibility by Ethnicity I guess what do you call it ethnicity race no ethnicity? I think and the us You know us is down at like me of 50% or something compared to A lot of Asian countries what I'm still

06:41 Waiting to find out is will this spread from the Chinese all over Africa. Will it spread to Africans? according to JC's research the African Africans not American afro-american actual African real Africans apparently have a lot of them have this same structure uh-huh lungs that will create a problem in Africa which brings us right back to the What he noticed, and this is what I'm trying to talk about. What he knows is that if you start looking into epidemiology, you find very little correlation with ethnocentric groups. They just don't make...they decided not to make the connections so you can't tell for example with let's say the last influenza or even swine flu You can't tell if certain blacks got it more than certain whites or Irish got it more than Spanish or anything because they've kept all

07:37 data out of the epidemiological studies. And that's what he found fascinating, and I propose that the reason they did this is because one, they don't want to give anybody any ideas... Yeah. ...and two, I think they've already targeted races with certain kinds of potentially bioengineered viruses or other complexes, AIDS, Ebola a couple of examples. And so they don't want to show any sort of...they don't want to make these connections so they just won't study it but

08:15 He's convinced it's Han Chinese. That's why the Chinese are so freaked out at the moment, right? And we have all kinds of measures being taken now We had additional country Bands and to me it reads like the one bell one road one belt strategy Layout, it's like okay your band and your band and your band in your bed which immediately Of course is I don't think it really worked they tried to spin it as Muslim ban! No, no. More Muslim ban. Well those people... yeah sure they may have Chinese in there by the hundreds of thousands who could be carrying the flu and spreading it to people who would come to America but let's just say it's about Muslims because Trump hates Muslims It's such a disservice such a disservice to the public

09:02 The economic impact I think is going to be as i was talking about from day one this, this is what it's about in my mind and the CBC so far as the only one that had any kind of decent report on the economic impact of the coronavirus Wuhan Kong flu. You need not look far to see the economic consequences of this virus, airline after airline suspending flights to China This afternoon one of Air Canada's last direct flight from Beijing landed in Vancouver In China, entire swaths of the country have been shut down. Starbucks has closed more than half its outlets Toyota announced it will close its plants and Google says it will temporarily close all of its Chinese offices Remember though back in 2003 China was basically the world's factory

CHAPTER 04 / 53 Discussion

Global Economic Impact of Chinese Factory Shutdowns

The economic consequences of the coronavirus outbreak manifest as major corporations like Starbucks, Toyota, and Google close Chinese operations. Air Canada and other airlines suspend flights, disrupting global supply chains and the lobster industry in Vancouver. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross suggests the outbreak could benefit the U.S. by bringing manufacturing back from China.

air canada· starbucks· toyota· google· wilbur ross

08:15 He's convinced it's Han Chinese. That's why the Chinese are so freaked out at the moment, right? And we have all kinds of measures being taken now We had additional country Bands and to me it reads like the one bell one road one belt strategy Layout, it's like okay your band and your band and your band in your bed which immediately Of course is I don't think it really worked they tried to spin it as Muslim ban! No, no. More Muslim ban. Well those people... yeah sure they may have Chinese in there by the hundreds of thousands who could be carrying the flu and spreading it to people who would come to America but let's just say it's about Muslims because Trump hates Muslims It's such a disservice such a disservice to the public

09:02 The economic impact I think is going to be as i was talking about from day one this, this is what it's about in my mind and the CBC so far as the only one that had any kind of decent report on the economic impact of the coronavirus Wuhan Kong flu. You need not look far to see the economic consequences of this virus, airline after airline suspending flights to China This afternoon one of Air Canada's last direct flight from Beijing landed in Vancouver In China, entire swaths of the country have been shut down. Starbucks has closed more than half its outlets Toyota announced it will close its plants and Google says it will temporarily close all of its Chinese offices Remember though back in 2003 China was basically the world's factory

09:50 Today China's much more intertwined in the buying and selling of the global economy. The fact that the Chinese authorities have clamped down and they've put many cities in lockdown already, that means those consumers aren't out there purchasing and that will really dampen Chinese growth And that dampening will be felt in places you may not expect Cameron Seafood sells about half its lobsters to China And Chinese New Year is one of the busiest times of year. They were set to ship about 20,000 pounds this week Those orders all cancelled so actually the sales to China completely disappeared from Monday

10:32 There are other markets for those lobsters, but there's no way to make up the loss of the Chinese market. And no way of knowing how or when the world second biggest economy will reopen for business." If it really is and of course this sounds completely bioengineered when or gee how unfortunate for these Chinese that it only or really only seems to be targeting them But it's kind of a perfect setup. Who was the old coot secretary of commerce? Wilbur, what is his name? Wilber Ross. He said this is good! He made a statement that this is really good because now we can bring back some of that manufacturing This guy always lets the cat out of the bag

CHAPTER 05 / 53 Discussion

U.S. Public Health Emergency and Asymptomatic Transmission

The U.S. declares a public health emergency following the eighth confirmed case in Boston. The Lancet estimates over 75,000 infections, suggesting Beijing is under-reporting figures. Reports of asymptomatic transmission in Germany lead to the first federal quarantine in 50 years for Americans returning to a California air base.

cdc· massachusetts· boston· the lancet· quarantine

11:19 This guy's too funny. I do have the CBS rundown that just ran yesterday of their update of the corona situation, you might want to play it? A new case of the deadly coronavirus has been confirmed in the U.S., the latest case in Massachusetts, it's the eighth in the US and first on the East Coast Health officials have declared a public health emergency Nearly 14 thousand people worldwide have been infected and more than 300 died And nearly 60 million people are under travel restrictions Remy Inocencio leading us off from Beijing The CDC says the new case of coronavirus is a Boston resident in his 20s who recently traveled to the center of the outbreak. You know, just to interrupt I'm very disappointed and in light of this information that they never really say what ethnicity or background these American victims have

12:17 Because it could be American Chinese, could be American Japanese, American Korean whatever it is. African-American we should know they should start... It's a blackout! Yes! Wuhan China he has been placed in isolation also today tech giant Apple announced it would close all its stores and offices in China until February 9th joining a growing list of companies restricting operations here This all comes as the World Health Organization declared a global health emergency and the US State Department raised its travel advisory for China to the highest level, meaning do not travel to China. A new study out by the British medical journal The Lancet estimates that more than 75 thousand people have been infected by the virus as of last week if that turns out to be true it would confirm what many already fear

13:06 that Beijing is massively under-reporting these numbers. The CDC reported that even if patients' initial tests for coronavirus are negative, they could still develop the illness because the test only works when patients have symptoms A study also showed the virus can be transmitted by patients with no symptoms a woman who traveled from Shanghai to Germany infected seven other people while she remained asymptomatic Those findings contributed to the decision to place 195 Americans housed at a California air base in the first federal quarantine in 50 years. They will spend 14 days there. The best way to control a virus like this is to keep people

CHAPTER 06 / 53 Discussion

Dr. Anthony Fauci on Virus Isolation and Quarantine

Dr. Anthony Fauci discusses the challenges of testing for the coronavirus, noting that detectable virus levels can fluctuate in hospitalized patients. He clarifies that current CDC tests are not being used as release criteria for the 195 Americans in quarantine. The hosts interpret his statements as an indication that the 14-day quarantine period may be extended.

anthony fauci· cdc· virus isolation· incubation period· quarantine

13:47 away from everyone else while you run out the clock on that incubation period. I'm really glad you got this clip because it leads perfectly into Dr. Fauci and dr. Fauci is a celebrity here on The No Agenda Show, You may remember him one of the most famous lines ever do you remember? Thank you Mr Bluff. Yes! Dr. Fauci thanks so much as always for joining us Good to be here bro. So that is foul He's a fan favorite here at the no agenda show and he's talking about these one I think it's him Yes, talking about the 195 Americans that were flown out of Wuhan and now they're in quarantine They're not getting out in 14 days listen carefully clearly they're all isolated and

14:36 And will be for the 14 days. We have done virus isolation, but I want to be clear of the current test that we developed at CDC We're not sure of the natural history of how the virus is isolated. Can you isolate it one day, then three days later you can't? And we are seeing in the cases that are in the hospital, where you've seen people had detectable virus and they didn't have detectable virus and then three days later they had detectable virus. cultures right now in these individuals more to help us learn about this virus. How much asymptomatic carriage, in fact is there? So I want people to understand that distinction we're not using it as a release criteria because we don't know the natural history of how this virus has secreted and this is what we're continuing to learn. Not using that as release criteria enjoy your February

15:35 They're not getting out. This is the problem, you can get it and then it goes away and then it comes back Well that's... no I don't think so That's what he just said! He just said that No what he really said was that test sucks There's that. So this is from the task force and they did have some soothing words for Merkins I want to stress, the risk of infection for Americans remains low and with these and our previous actions we are working to keep the risk low all agencies are working aggressively to monitor this continually evolving situation

CHAPTER 07 / 53 Discussion

White House Task Force and Chinese Hospital Construction

The White House task force emphasizes transparency and the low risk to the American public while acknowledging likely person-to-person transmission. Meanwhile, reports from Wuhan describe the rapid construction of facilities that resemble prisons or shipping container cells rather than traditional hospitals. The hosts express skepticism regarding China's reported efforts and the true nature of these buildings.

donald trump· 23andme· wuhan· hospital construction· transparency

16:17 and to keep the public informed in a constantly transparent way. The United States appreciates China's efforts, and coordination with public health officials across the globe, and continues to encourage the highest levels of transparency It is likely that we will continue to see more cases in the United States in the coming days and weeks including some limited person-to-person transmission The American public can be assured the full weight of the US government is working to safeguard the health and safety of the American people. Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! You know, my 23andMe comment is not far off from our future you watch if this is true and it comes down to DNA and what parts have people your made out of

17:11 No, we shall see. We shall see what happens. But it's still I mean ultimately it's not even apparently as bad as the seasonal flu but if it comes and goes and you carry it after months that's problematic or a problem I guess Well something is a problem So then the Department of Justice, they did... They also we get some notes too. You know they're building a bunch these hospitals apparently aren't really hospitals that they're building right outside it. Yeah, there's just prisons. Containers with the lock on the outside it's a container you can pick it right up with the crane and drop it. I think they could start killing people!

CHAPTER 08 / 53 Discussion

Department of Justice Indicts Harvard Professor Charles Lieber

The Department of Justice announces the arrest of Harvard Professor Charles Lieber for lying about his involvement in China's Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber allegedly received $50,000 per month from the Wuhan University of Technology to establish a research lab. Additional indictments involve a PLA lieutenant at Boston University and a cancer researcher attempting to smuggle biological vials to China.

charles lieber· harvard university· thousand talents plan· wuhan university of technology· espionage

17:53 So just to add some insult to injury, and this hasn't been used politically yet that I'm aware of but the Department of Justice came out and gave a little rundown on what they've been doing most recently with people doing in covert research on behalf of Chinese bio labs. We're here today to announce three separate cases highlighting the ongoing threat posed by Chinese economic espionage and research theft in the United States First, the arrest today of a Harvard University professor for lying about his participation in a Chinese foreign recruitment program Second this morning we've unsealed a separate indictment

18:33 of a Chinese national working as a scientific researcher at Boston University who failed to mention on her visa application that she is also a lieutenant with the People's Liberation Army. Finally, this office has indicted another Chinese national for trying to smuggle vials of biological material out of the United States into China and lying about it to federal investigators. That defendant, whose entry into the United States had been sponsored by Harvard University was a cancer researcher at a lab at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center So this morning the FBI arrested Dr Charles Lieber the chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, for making false statements regarding his involvement in China's Thousand Talents Plan and his affiliation with Wuhan University of Technology. The complaint alleges that Dr Lieber signed a contract with the Chinese university in Wuhan

19:25 and was paid up to $50,000 per month plus up to a hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars in living expenses. And awarded more than 1.5 million dollars to set up a research lab at the Chinese school and work there on researching nanotechnology. Lieber also joined China's Thousand Talents Plan according to the complaint. A Chinese government-run program designed to entice scientists and researchers in the United States to share their research expertise with China. Coincidence? I think not! It is just one of those odd coincidences... It's a beauty Now, the Health and Human Services Secretary, Anzar

CHAPTER 09 / 53 Discussion

Secretary Alex Azar on Self-Quarantine and Ground Truth

HHS Secretary Alex Azar outlines screening and self-isolation protocols for U.S. citizens returning from China, specifically mentioning mandatory 14-day quarantines for those from Hubei. Azar states the U.S. is seeking "ground truth" by sending experts to China via the World Health Organization. The hosts characterize the designated quarantine centers as potential "FEMA camps."

alex azar· hhs· fema camps· hubei· world health organization

20:13 I think he's in trouble somehow with this. He is waffling and floating around the way he says stuff, and I have two clips one from their press conference and then I think the other one may be from a direct television interview but this is explaining Self-quarantine.

20:50 U.S. citizens returning to the United States from having been in China within the previous 14 days, they would be funneled as Secretary Cuccinelli spoke of they would be screened appropriately to see if they present any type of symptoms of the disease and then they would be asked to self-isolate at home over the fourteen days but for individuals from Hubei because that is the epicenter of this with such high immediate transmission we filled these additional measures of quarantine for up to 14 days are appropriate. And could I just follow that, have you selected specific quarantine centers? We have selected them we will announce those as DHS implements with the airlines that funneling exit. Can you say it with me now FEMA camps. FEMA camps in your future ladies and gentlemen

21:38 And listen to Anzar. Anzar has a tell and truth-wanna comes out moment, wants to come out moment in 39 seconds We'll get the tell at the beginning and then the truth wants to come out. And the headline is Is The World Ready For The Coronavirus? How do you answer that question? So Ed we've actually been very transparent about what we do not know yet about this virus Wow We've actually been very transparent about what we do not know yet about this virus, which is we don't know full information about its contagiousness. About its severity profile which is why I'm delighted that at the invitation of the Chinese government, we will accept the invitation to participate as part of the World Health Organization's team of experts that will deploy to China

22:30 to assist Chinese experts on the ground, to actually get ground truth. To study this virus and get all the information to both help prevent the spread further in China of it... Get ground truth to study this virus and get all the information to both help prevent the spread further in China but also global threat of this virus You got the clip of the day for finding that one. I think i deserve it in this case! A double whammy! That's a double, you got the tell- cough and you got to slip. Gotta help the spread man oh i mean uh

CHAPTER 10 / 53 Discussion

Gender Disparity in Infections and Japanese Economic Slowdown

Reports indicate that men, particularly those who smoke, are significantly more susceptible to the coronavirus than women. In Japan, the Ginza district is reportedly deserted as consumers avoid public spaces, threatening the local economy. The hosts also note that Twitter suspended the ZeroHedge account for posting articles about the virus's origins.

ginza· japan· smoking· gender ratio· zerohedge

23:15 Oh my goodness. Well at the dinner table conversation we were talking about some other aspects of this, which includes the fact that men should be more susceptible for various reasons. 70% more men infected than women so far? Yeah and that has to do with the structure of the lungs and the smoking and the rest You know, the conversation came up with Chinese have too many men anyway. Yeah it's a good thing! So you know... It might be to even things out a little bit Who knows? It's a pretty grisly conversation, I'll tell you. Yeah but now we know that historically speaking having been around the block for a bit being a little bit older all of these scares Ebola Zika swine flu H1N1 SARS it...I mean yeah people die 30 thousand a year die from seasonal flu people die so in the United States i don't feel we have to be that worried

24:16 Europe is also not shutting everything down now and my goodness, they can't of course because everyone's... this is the real issue. It's not just China as one of the first clips said it was just our factory anymore we're intertwined so if China goes down its gonna hurt just economically speaking. Dame Astrid sent us a note discussing what's going on in Japan Yes, you got that I did she mentions that the Ginza is just empty The places that the streets are deserted. Oh yeah They don't want to eat they'll want to go out there won't do anything. I know Yeah this real slow down your economy. You know bankrupt This is not good. I mean over it just that part you mentioned at the beginning It's just not the economic

25:11 Economically, it's an issue. It is not good. I got a note from our... It is being ignored somewhat and I should also mention this as you started off by mentioning that the paper about the HIV being inserted into Corona somehow which may or may not be true yeah I think its bullcrap but it did get by posting this which has nothing wrong with posting the fact that this paper exists Yeah, zero heads got kicked off of Twitter gone. Yeah I saw that too very just not suspicious Our Intel analysts this is the one who caught the

CHAPTER 11 / 53 Discussion

Intelligence Analysis of Coronavirus Recurrence and ACE2 Genes

An intelligence analyst provides data from Johns Hopkins University in Nanjing suggesting the virus may become recessive and recur, leading to fatal cytokine storms. The report mentions a Seattle patient who recovered using experimental antiretrovirals but saw the virus return after stopping the drug. The analysis highlights the ACE2 gene sequence as a primary factor in viral load and transmission.

johns hopkins· nanjing· cytokine storm· antiretroviral· ace2

25:52 The fact that a lot of the Canadians flying back from Iran were actually work came from the University in Candanavia where they're experts in nuclear technology. So he sent me a follow-up note Here's some facts regarding the virus. Actually, he said he got this... He is an intelligence analyst so he gets his information from sources. So he says a well-placed source with direct ties to mainland China I know it sounds like bit like weird blog post but it was private to me and you know we have some standing in the show since its previous observation

26:32 So he attends, his source attends John Hopkins University in Nanjing China. or attended and as an alum he still has a log on to their libraries where he drew some research from. So the short version of what our analysts found out, the most susceptible to the NCOV, the novel coronavirus, the highest ACE2 gene structures people who contract never recover from it. The virus becomes recessive after incubation and initial flare many of those who had an initial infection with fever and cough but without

27:09 Cytokine storm, what is that John? What's the word? Cytokinestorm. I don't know there's a word i'd have to look at. Is this okay? Well it's uh... I'll spell it! C-Y-T-O-K-I-N-E cytokine cytokine so without cytokinestorm if you looked that up for me had showed a compromised immune system and recurrence of the virus in several cases the third or fourth recurrence There's that word again, cytokine storm developed. Those people died because the virus is immunocompromising any recurrences... Yes?

27:48 A cytokine storm is an overproduction of immune cells and then activating compounds, cytokines which in a flu infection is often associated with the surge of activated immune cells into the lungs. So you kill yourself by trying to… your body tries to protect itself? Yeah this like some people get… You can almost self-induce an asthma attack attack, but then there's certain things that get released. Testamines and then the next thing you know you're half dead." Because the virus is immunocompromising any recurrences further weakens the immune system. The Chinese are using the term airborne AIDS in describing the approach to it

28:26 The patient in Seattle was given an experimental antiretroviral after his first post-infection flare fully recovered on the drug. He was declared cured when he stopped the drug, the virus flare recurred." This is from The New York Times January 22nd article. He's back in the hospital. "...The basic prevention is to quarantine and avoid people in the ACE2 gene sequence Those people will have the highest viral load and be super spreaders. Yes, this is much less deadly currently than the flu virus however it has the potential to grow undetected at a much higher rate It has also had an impact on the global economy that has already surpassed anything flu viruses ever done according to our intelligence analysts So the ACE2 gene sequence is that something you can get from 23andMe? Can we figure that out? Can we target people now who have done this

29:17 I think this again is the Han Chinese. Probably, no he has the list it's the same list that Buzzkill Jr probably saw with most susceptible where Americans comes down you know halfway down the list 50% so... That kind of sounds a bit like something that might have been bioengineered who knows? Well, these things I mean naturally occurring substances do evolve. You can do that too yeah on their own and then they you just have to be the unlucky winner. And you're a winner!

CHAPTER 12 / 53 Discussion

Corporate Earnings and Supply Chain Blame

The hosts predict that public companies will use the coronavirus as a "kitchen sink" excuse to hide poor financial performance on their balance sheets. They discuss reports of tech workers avoiding Chinese colleagues and the general public's reliance on headlines. They argue that the No Agenda Show provides necessary distillation of complex news that mainstream outlets ignore.

balance sheets· supply chain· market manipulation· programmers· news literacy

30:08 There you go. Well, the point that if it is not... If you can't get rid of it once you got it and your just forever your crying. It's more like herpes! Yeah sounds a lot like herpes. You can't get rid of it. Oh man. Well, that's all bad news. It's not great I think the real bad news is yet to come. The economy will coast for a while. Oh it has got to be hurting! It has to! The numbers have to make it... No, its gotta be huge. Thank you And this what I said and everyone gonna start using this Hey if we had public company We'd be having this meeting right now

30:53 Hey, we still have that shit on the balance sheet. Why don't we get the bad news out? Blame it on Chinese flu or whatever. Say, ah sales something problem supply chain. Well that's a common effect yeah if its bad weather you blame it on whatever is going on of course but it's gonna definitely have an effect. And whether or not the market accepts the blame, because the market will go well okay we'll let you slide on this one but if it continues and if this is like what that Johns Hopkins report in The Young Dead Intelligence guy which I believe him because- Yeah me too. Johns Hopkins is a spook operation at this point. Do ya think? Yes! They would have good information

31:34 And so if he's looking at their stuff and they get this, this doesn't go out to the newspapers. This kind of thing that they don't want to freak out the public. No no, this is just for podcasts. That's just what the Intel guys consider online. The way that dinner conversation opened up when we started talking about it was it went like this Oh Adam read a note from one of our producers talking about there's a big big programming operation and all the programmers are staying away from the Chinese You remember that note? Yes. They're all huddling anywhere, but they don't want to be hanging out with the Chinese coders and JC starts off by saying for good reason! Great... That helps. But that's-that is very strange and that to me it's kind of new

32:18 that and the public is so poorly informed only reading headlines typically just you know and people have tuned out to news because what is news anymore I think that's why one of the reasons why people like listening to no agenda is because we at least distilled, we may not be right all the time Still through the bullcrap. No, but we present everything that's out there that could be presented and we have people out there who also do analysis they give it to us and then we reanalyze its fantastic That's the thing is that we have our own analysts And yeah exactly They have access to stuff We have people who have access to stuff that definitely The public doesn't have access too and reporters don't get you know they can barely use a computer so

CHAPTER 13 / 53 Discussion

CNN Cancels Iowa Poll Amid Bernie Sanders Surge

CNN and the Des Moines Register cancel the release of their final pre-caucus poll citing a "compromised" interview process. Critics suggest the move was intended to suppress news of a Bernie Sanders surge and protect Joe Biden's struggling campaign. The hosts discuss the lack of transparency regarding the specific complaint that led to the poll's withdrawal.

cnn· iowa caucus· bernie sanders· joe biden· des moines register

33:04 We're not going to get anything from the New York Times. They're only interested in getting Trump out of office and keeping Bernie from getting elected." Hey, and you know what? CNN is on it again! If you thought that after... Now we'll get to the impeachment in a moment because of course there's going to be an acquittal vote on Wednesday that's expected unless something crazy happens but At this very moment, and we have tomorrow very important for the Democratic Party is they are going to have the Iowa caucus. That's all in leading up to who will be the nominee so it's an internal thing it's not a government thing It's a demo you know it's the club of Democrats they can that's how they run it

33:41 First, I want us all to pay very close attention. I believe Joe Biden's campaign is over it is completely done and wiped out he will never recover because he's no longer needed we needed him to be an opponent of Donald Trump for the impeachment impeachment over thanks Joe you really did your job for us You can now go away you can't really function anyway Mark my words, Joe Biden's campaign is over. Which leaves us with the Sanders surge This is an incredible problem We need to stop Bernie Sanders and CNN did a fabulous job by

34:24 Reporting, well here's the clip and then you'll understand. David CNN had planned to bring everyone the final Iowa poll from CNN in the Des Moines Register tonight that is no longer happening please explain to our viewers why? Yeah Ana it was brought to CNNs attention earlier this evening that somebody who was a question for their survey raised an issue with the way that their interview was conducted That means the results of the poll could have been compromised We weren't able to determine exactly what happened during this person's interview and we don't know if it was an isolated incident. So out of an abundance of caution, CNN in the Des Moines Register and Seltzer & Company who conducts the poll decided not to release tonight's poll.

35:13 the standards that we apply to our polling very seriously and to keep the highest possible standards. We wanted to present this information to the public and explain why we didn't proceed with releasing this poll this evening, Ana. So a lot of this stuff is almost like superstition, you know how things work and what you need. And even this caucusing which maybe John you can try to explain it's not incredibly clear certainly not to anyone outside I don't know Iowa but this poll is an annual or a poll that has always run and published on the eve of the Iowa caucus and it is supposed to be a very important indicator as to who was going

35:58 who's going to get the most people caucusing slash delegates for the ultimate choice of the Democratic contestant in The Big Reality Show. And I mean, for CNN to have someone call we you know it's not like this person was on the air I've had no proof there's a lot of official sources according to official sources there are no names anywhere but But someone called up and said, hey who are you voting for? Bernie, Elizabeth, Joe. And apparently didn't say Buttigieg and so that immediately was taken by CNN into canceling the obvious news that Bernie Sanders is surging ahead of everybody. So they are meddling in the primaries for sure

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Democratic Candidates Campaigning in Iowa

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders rush to Iowa following the conclusion of daily impeachment trial sessions. A Democratic super PAC launches ads questioning Sanders' health following his heart attack, while Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib faces backlash for booing Hillary Clinton at a Sanders rally. Joe Biden continues a multi-county bus tour despite perceived low energy.

elizabeth warren· rashida tlaib· hillary clinton· monmouth university· super pac

36:49 And unless you have something else, I'll play the ABC Iowa update because it kind of encompasses everything. Well, I do have the Iowa wrap scheme because I have some thoughts on this. Okay whatever you want Play yours and then I'll see if the, I can't remember what mine's about. I produced it last night play mine. And he just said play yours now is played line a hold on what's uh Iowa rap here we go with just two days to go before i was first in the nation voting for the 2020 election The democratic presidential hopefuls are trying to make every second count Senator Elizabeth Warren made it to a late night campaign event Friday after leaving President Trump's impeachment trial

37:28 They'll spend the weekend crisscrossing the state ahead of Monday night's caucuses. The latest Monmouth University poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden holding a slight edge over Senator Bernie Sanders among likely caucus goers." Ah, this is interesting. Wait a minute who was uh whose report was that? Who did that one? It's CBS Let's listen to ABC Central Intelligence Agency broadcast system they know. ABC has a different edge. In Iowa tonight a final frenzy the caucus is now just two days out Senator Elizabeth Warren. And listen closely to who they make sound like a doofus. Fresh off impeachment duty, making a mad dash from the Capitol to rally her supporters dressed in a campaign hoodie. I heard there were some people wanted to take some selfies! Yeah that's the sound bite you want from someone you want to marginalize. And making her closing argument with voters today. We will we must

38:21 come together as a party and beat Donald Trump. That is our job! Yes! Tonight a surging senator Bernie Sanders shaking off concerns about his electability, but I believe that we are the strongest campaign to defeat Trump a Democratic super PAC trying to stop his momentum before the first votes are cast pushing out an aggressive ad campaign questioning The senators health. I do have some concerns about Bernie Sanders health considering the fact that he did have a heart attack and I believe that our campaign is Is the campaign of energy? Is the campaign all the excitement's the divide within the Democratic Party on full display in a critical election year Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib booing the mention of Hillary Clinton's name as she campaigned for Sanders. I'll go You all know, I can't be quiet now we're gonna boot That's alright the haters the haters will shut up

39:22 Monday when we win. Today apologizing, writing I allowed my disappoint- Making Bernie look bad very bad because he has bad surrogates. Appointment with Secretary Clinton's latest comments about Senator Sanders and his supporters get the best of me former Vice President Joe Biden on a 20 city 17 county bus tour throughout Iowa Mr. Vice President have you benefited from having this thing largely to yourself during this critical stretch? All I know is that you've been feeling good for a long time here and it still feels... Joe has his head down. He has no energy, he's depressed because- Oh he's pooped! Because he knows that its over. Impeachment done. No, I'm going to disagree with this. Hold on. I mean I wrote it down. Hold on let me just finish the clip and then we'll work through it. Okay. All I know is that you've been feeling good for a long time here and it still feels good

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Impeachment Timing and the Biden Campaign Strategy

The hosts theorize that the timing of the Senate impeachment trial was orchestrated to keep rival senators in Washington D.C., allowing Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg to campaign unimpeded in Iowa. They argue the DNC is actively working to thwart Bernie Sanders' momentum. They also note the DNC's rule change regarding donor thresholds to accommodate Mike Bloomberg.

joe biden· pete buttigieg· impeachment trial· iowa caucuses· dnc

40:08 The DNC changing its rules, dropping the donor threshold. The pathway is now open for the billionaire mayor who is self-funding his own campaign to possibly qualify for the Nevada debate happening later this month So you disagree with my Joe theory? Yeah because the guys I follow which are the Democrat operatives and many of them are on Twitter John Cooper's my favorite And they have a, you can tell that this Biden thing is they're doing everything they can. They're not going to let Bernie win and so if Bernie doesn't want it's gonna have to be Biden and here's what my basic new thinking the entire impeachment process is designed

40:51 to get Biden to win. The reason they stalled one whole month before presenting it the Senate is so they could time it, so the senators would have to be in Washington DC that are all running against Biden. Right. Biden has no restrictions! So Biden can go pound the pavement in Iowa day after day after day as this impeachment drags coincidentally moved right to the point where the caucuses are and stretched. So that's why they talk, both these reports that we played is these senators are rushing to Iowa they have to fly over and they're coming in near midnight or meet up with people then they got a fly back to Washington for them for the vote on Monday this is all a scheme by Democrats I agree with that I totally agree

41:39 And it was maybe more orchestrated to thwart Bernie than to help Joe is my idea. Well, Bernie's definitely the target. Yeah they have to stop Bernie so I would not disagree with the theory that Bernie is number one on the list of why are we doing this? Yes but I still believe that as Joe because the one who got to take advantage of this situation of this impeachment which they stretched needlessly and they took their 24 hours, they did everything they could to keep these senators in Washington DC where they had to attend. They couldn't say hey I'm out of here I'm gonna go Iowa, I got an election to run or a campaign to run. They kept them in Washington and the only one who there's only two people that benefited from that and that is Buttigieg and Biden because they're not senators so they can be in Iowa pounding

42:32 pavement. Although it won't make any difference, it's also benefit to Bloomberg... Well Bloomberg is not in the caucuses. Okay I want to play that... It doesn't benefit Bloomberg he just spending money left and right Already spent a thing 200 million. There's I tweeted some of these look at the players here who are at work This is the you heard a little bit in the ABC report This is the anti Bernie ad that ran in Iowa The most important thing is we have to be Trump and we've seen the damage that Trump and the Republican Congress have done I doubt if Bernie Sanders can beat Trump. I like Bernie, and think he has great ideas but Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa? They're just not gonna vote for a socialist! I do have some concerns about Bernie Sanders' health considering the fact that he did have a heart attack. I think it's very important that Democrats nominate somebody that can beat Trump. I don't feel as though Bernie Sanders would do well against Donald Trump. I just don't think Bernie can beat Trump. DMFI PAC is responsible for the content of this advertising

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Democratic Majority for Israel PAC Ads Against Sanders

The Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) PAC, led by former Clinton officials, runs aggressive ads in Iowa claiming Bernie Sanders cannot beat Donald Trump. The ads focus on Sanders' self-identification as a socialist and his recent health issues. The hosts discuss the internal rift within the Democratic Party between the establishment and the progressive wing.

dmfi pac· anne lewis· jennifer granholm· socialism· israel

43:30 So that's the DMFI PAC. That is the Democratic Majority for Israel Political Action Committee, board of directors Anne Lewis – this is straight from Wikipedia – she's at the top of the list – White House communications director during the Clinton administration. Cisneros, HUD secretary during Bill Clinton's administration. Yeah they're a bunch of Clinton operatives Oh yeah and Jennifer Granholm who is also a current CNN political contributor It's obvious who is behind this just to

44:09 Get rid of Bernie and it and I am very Disturbed by how far they will go. And do they not realize that there are a lot of people who really like Bernie Sanders? There's a lot couple of things should be noted. We've noted it before I think Bernie could beat Trump In fact, I think he's the only one who could be trump because as it's a clear distinction I think it makes the voters have to really take aside Yeah I don't think he would be Trump. But, I think he could be Trump. I don't think anybody else can." Well not with this pushback from his own quote-unquote party... Well he's not in the party! That's the joke of it. He is an independent. Yeah but he is running on the Democrat ticket. They're that fond of this concept You know what? It was kind of interesting that in there in the impeachment vote Of course his vote comes through as an independent yet he's running for the Democratic ticket which is and I'm not quite sure how that works

45:06 Why did they even let- can't they just say, nah you're out? Why'd they even let him in?! Socialists in the party, there's a left contingent. The AOCs and all the lefties that are taking over the party? That's the future of the party! If you look at the two parties in the future... We'll have two parties- The Communist Party and the Nazi Party as of course the right wing conservatives will see the Left as Communists, socialist communists And the Left will see the Right Wing Conservatives as Nazis So that's what it's gonna be. It's going to be Nazi commies! That's our future and Michael Moore spoke at the Bernie rally

45:51 He was a little fired up. They are removing the rule to be on the debate stage where it says you have to have so many people donating to you, otherwise instead of 27 people on this stage there'd be 227 people on this stage So they had to show that they would give a certain number of Americans that would give them $1 That's all the rules said but it showed their support And that's how they determined who would be on the debate stage. Today, they removed that rule because Mike Bloomberg! The billionaire! The Republican mayor of New York City They removed it so he could be in the next debate He doesn't have to show he has any support amongst the American people He can just buy his way onto the debate stage and I gotta tell you what is disgusting I watched a debate in Iowa here two weeks ago

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Mike Bloomberg's Dog Ad and Muzzle Shaking Incident

Mike Bloomberg releases a campaign advertisement featuring dogs to portray himself as a relatable leader. The hosts discuss a viral video of Bloomberg shaking a dog's muzzle by putting his hand in its mouth during a campaign stop. They mock the ad's production and Bloomberg's perceived lack of support among human voters.

mike bloomberg· dog ad· nra· muzzle· viral video

46:45 the all-white debate and the fact that the Democratic, the DNC will not allow Cory Booker on that stage. Will not allow Julian Castro on that stage but they're gonna allow Mike Bloomberg on the stage because he's got a billion fucking dollars! Yep, that's right. That is... So Bloomberg has a new ad. What is this with more? Does he hate Jews?! Oh no we did that knowing you can't say that

47:27 I should mention the visuals for this ad you don't see people You just see dogs dogs dogs dogs on leashes dogs look at each other. It's a dog ad Mike Bloomberg is the man to lead us he will create more jobs Mike's not afraid of the NRA not one bit trust me Mike will get it done yeah He does not tweet I like Mike. I like Mike, I lick Mike! I'm Mike Bloomberg's dog. I approve this message. I'm Mike Bloomberg and I approve this message. Dogs or people too? There it is... the dogs will be voting. Apparently the only thing that'll vote for Bloomberg... Now just saying, I'm getting pummeled by ads for Bloomberg, Bernie and Steyer

48:23 And even though Star really hasn't spent much. That was real by the way, that's not satire. That's what I'm asking because I have not seen this ad in California What is the point of this ad? What do you think? I think it was put together quickly as a joke because of the weird way he shook that Kali's head If you saw that video. I don't know anything about this He was doing a meet and greet somewhere, and someone had a dog the dog comes up to him he grabs the dog by the nose The dog opens his mouth so it just basically grabs the top part of the dogs nose and head and just kind of shakes it like he's shaking someone's hand. It's very disturbing! Wait, you grabbed the dog's muzzle and shook the muzzle? But just... The dogs mouth is open so just the top part of the muzzle Oh, he put his hand in the dogs mouth Yes! Yes! What, the dog didn't clamp down? Sadly no otherwise you would have heard about it He had to know that dog nobody in their right mind does that Well unless he's a reptile

49:22 Well, there's that. Dogs are bluebirds! Supporters of blue birds! Maybe the dogs will just vote for him? I don't know maybe people have a... Hey, I have an ISO for the potential end of this show Okay Is it the Bloomer? Yeah okay I'm Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message End of show Uh okay It's a contender It's odd Ok well I got another one later Let me see what else we have going on in the 2020. Oh yeah, you know 538 Media? The great pollsters who predicted... Who got one thing right 20 years ago and they've never gotten anything right since those guys pretty much Silverman or whatever his name is yes that guy silver silver Brad silver something

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Stacey Abrams' Presidential Ambitions and Hillary Clinton Rumors

Stacey Abrams tells Nate Silver of 538 that she plans to be president within the next 20 years. The hosts discuss the possibility of Hillary Clinton joining Joe Biden's ticket as a Vice Presidential candidate. They debate whether this "Occam's Razor" theory is a viable strategy for the Democratic establishment to regain power.

stacey abrams· nate silver· 538· hillary clinton· vice president

50:15 No, it's not Brad. It's the guy that everyone trusted when he said Hillary will win 98% sure that's the guy yeah Nate Nate Nate silver there you go so they interviewed Stacey Abrams a quick quote Stacy Abrams and Malone of 538 media says do you think the country will elect a black woman president in the next 20 years? Abram says yes Question, do you think they'll elect you? Abrams says yes. That's my plan I'm very pragmatic Uh-huh at least she admits she wants to be the president Wow so she gets her talking points from the CFR and that's what she says mm-hmm I don't know maybe she had living there. I think said this is not the way to do things Pretty bold yeah

51:04 So that's kind of... You're all on board with it because you think you, you're all your. I think she is... You bought into it? You bought into the Stacey Abrams uh... You know what, I really don't know what to think anymore. We clearly differ on the Biden stuff so I want to see what happens first. I think we'll know very quickly I'm actually almost getting to warm up to the idea which has been promoted, and this has also been promoted in Zero Hedge and elsewhere that Hillary is going to be the vice president with Biden. Well you laughed at my Occam's razor! I did! This is literally what I suggested it even unanimated no agenda that must have pushed over the edge

51:49 Well, it got me that whether logic was different than yours and I started reading it. And then something what fell on my head the apple that fell on my head was that oh wait a minute there has to be some reason some rationale some reason my original concept at Hillary's gonna jump in at the end isn't coming to fruition this could be it Okay, I'm not quite sure how different so no it's still my idea only now you just get out. But i'm just saying that i've now coming around to thinking okay it makes...I can see where it could happen It's a terrible ticket! Two people with walkers running for president is pretty bad

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Impeachment Witness Vote and the "Epitaph for America"

Following the Senate's vote against calling new witnesses in the impeachment trial, liberal commentators express despair over the state of American democracy. A "LibDev" post titled "Epitaph for America" compares the U.S. government to a Russian-style autocracy. The hosts discuss the deepening partisan divide and the perception of a "dimensional rift" in political reality.

senate vote· witnesses· vladimir putin· autocracy· blackmail

52:41 Oh my goodness. Hey, it's a great... My hip! The whole idea is great. Did you um I have a LibDev posting did you have any convos with your LibJo friends after the no to witnesses and documents vote? Which essentially was a dour moment for many No, I didn't. I'm trying to keep...I'm trying to minimize my approaching it's like getting on the edge where there is a rift in the dimensional rift is what the way I am seeing these things and you know I try not to approach because I'm still irked about Putin calling the shots beliefs Oh well its only gotten worse

53:30 Well, it could be but I felt that's not healthy to get too close to it. So you start to have It's like these you know this time Space continuum, you know pieces of your anatomy started dissolve by it means just dangerous Here is a posting from my lib dev friend and its titled epitaph for America This was posted on Friday. It looks like the impeachment trial will be over tonight I've been trying to come to grips with how the Repubs confronted with such clear evidence of the corruption of the president could go along with it, I figured it had to be blackmail or a threat of force we now have a Russian style government and this is a rite-of-passage like the confirmation or bar mitzvah of the new autocracy

54:13 In Russia, the Parliament has no power. That seems to be the message bouncing around the Twittersphere Congress isn't going to do anything about this What comes next? It's new territory for Americans really for everyone because the last time a great power went down This path was before the internet and it just goes on and on and on and on I should read more well instead of that let me Okay, I have a couple of things. First of all, I learned something completely new after this vote and i'm very pleased with Chuck Schumer because not often that I learn something new from Chuck Schumer

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Chuck Schumer's "Perfidy" and the Meaning of Acquittal

Senator Chuck Schumer uses the word "perfidy" to describe the Senate's refusal to call witnesses. Mainstream media outlets coordinate a message that a Trump acquittal without witnesses is not a true "exoneration" and will always carry an asterisk. The hosts play a montage of news anchors questioning the legitimacy of the upcoming Senate vote.

chuck schumer· perfidy· acquittal· exoneration· mainstream media

54:56 And I've met this guy. I interviewed him once, way back in the day and he's a creep but i learned a new word. He came out after the vote of no witnesses no documents. Oh yes! I heard this word too. Allow a witness a document No witnesses no documents In an impeachment trial is a perfidy I was like, what is a perfidy? Yeah. Perfidy that's an old this kind of an arcane word. I kinda know what it means. Well, I looked it up. Of course not disloyalty faithlessness falseness these are all synonyms of course but it's an act or instance of disloyalty is the deceitful so why not just say that What's this perfidy That was so odd to me

55:49 Oh yeah, could be code. You're right. Code! Well so there's a couple of paths now that the M5M is taking it I have a Supercuts montage we always love doing those So the initial response from the M5M is if you didn't have a witness If you didn't have documents even though you have witness testimony and documents from the House impeachment then its not an acquittal It may be an acquittal, but it's certainly not an exoneration. Well he will not be acquitted you cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial the president's acquittal will be meaningless this can't be a real acquittal You cannot have a true acquittal if you've not had a fair trial There cannot be a true acquittal If there has not been a fair trial

56:35 He can say, well I was acquitted but he really can't say he was exonerated. He may get an acquittal but he's not going to get an exoneration It's not an exoneration we can't let it be seen as that. There will always be an asterisk. It should be fair to the president We will not benefit from an acquittal or dismissal if the trial is not viewed as fair. It's not a real trial and it's not a real exoneration If in fact we do have a not guilty finding, its going to be questioned In the absence of a fair trial How can the American people conclude that justice was done? After the senators deliberate and vote on trial or sham, you're right. The next step is convict or acquit Mr President without a fair trial the value of your acquittal will be zero Zero Very very little Okay so that's shaping the message there from the M5M

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Malcolm Nance on Election Hacking and Cyber Threats

Former intelligence officer Malcolm Nance warns on MSNBC that a Trump acquittal will signal to foreign powers like North Korea and Saudi Arabia that they can interfere in U.S. elections. Nance suggests that hackers may target voting machines directly in 2020. The hosts dismiss these claims as CIA-driven propaganda intended to delegitimize future election results.

malcolm nance· msnbc· north korea· saudi arabia· voting machines

57:29 Interestingly, over on exclusively MSNBC on the AM Joy, Joy Reid show she brought on former spook Malcolm Nance and he just went straight to it which I find this...this i find to be very not that a lot of people are watching am joy but this guy is propagating something which is if it's the way you want to go it's fine but when you bring this kind of thing into question You make it difficult for the whole country, everything. It's just a shitty thing to do Well I think that we are standing into a measure of danger that is going to be extremely critical for the American Republic

58:12 It's not only that Donald Trump is being given permission on the basis of what he has done in the past to go and cheat in this election. This vote next Wednesday when he is acquitted will give the entire world permission to attack the United States and perhaps be rewarded for it. So just imagine next November, second Tuesday of next November may not be Russia providing political propaganda beyond what they did in 2016. Imagine North Korea, loosing their entire global hacking network on the Democratic Party and supporting Donald Trump's re-election. It could be bad! You know what if we wake up to more of an election and were told Trump won Vermont? How would we even deal with that?

58:59 an actual interference in the vote. Right, I mean again a direct attack on the United States where our nation state has decided that they are going to actually hack the results and make it so obvious in such a way that one party, the Republicans say well that's just too bad that's the result of the election Donald Trump wins and the other party is left standing there blinking at a president who now believes he can do anything thing he wants in the national interest. So of course, all of our opponents in the global threat arena that's North Korea as you said Saudi Arabia has a very vested interest and keeping Donald Trump in his president United States

59:43 and they use Israeli, American and other subcontractors to carry out nefarious hacking and intelligence activities. This nation is going to be under attack cyber-wise unlike anything that we've seen before not just disinformation I think we may possibly finally see people put their hands on the thumbs of the scales of American voting machines or tally machines at the state level wherever they can. And it will be sloppy, it will be so obvious that again there's nothing were going to do about it because one side will accept the result." Wow! That's gone pretty far. This is a former intelligence guy

1:00:28 That means he's still under orders. He's probably that's probably right from the CIA There you go, and the idea that North Korea is gonna unleash its hordes of hackers What what do they got? This is bullcrap Yeah But people don't know that y'all I mean even even the probing of ports which in the m5m quickly was called thousands of attacks per minute People, if you ask people on the street lie witness news. If you say was the 2016 election hacked? They'll say oh yeah the results were hacked of course because that's what they've heard not that they actually care that much anymore but...

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Ted Cruz Podcast and Conviction Slip-of-the-Tongue

Senator Ted Cruz promotes his new podcast, "Verdict with Ted Cruz," during an interview about the impeachment trial. During the segment, Cruz accidentally states that he believes the president will be "convicted" by the end of the weekend before correcting the narrative. The hosts mock the error and Cruz's self-promotion.

ted cruz· verdict podcast· slip of the tongue· senate trial· conviction

1:01:07 Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz was on a podcast Truth Always Wants to Come Out although I don't think his truth is correct but it was odd. Isn't this his podcast? No he was being interviewed on another podcast He is the podcast meister now for sure podcast. That's correct and he will promote his podcast but he says something else here. A lot of questions that raised a lot of questions of corruption in the president I think not only was justified but had a responsibility to say look into this and investigate that corruption, i think that exchange is really important. Briefly if President Trumps watching tonight your message to him?

1:01:45 The Senate's gonna follow the law. We've given both sides a fair trial, the House didn't have a fair proceeding it had a one-sided partisan proceeding we let both sides present their case we're going to apply the law I think by the end of the weekend the president is going to be convicted also mentioned two weeks ago I launched a podcast and verdict with Ted Cruz Notice that guy asking the question doesn't even correct him Listen again We let both sides present their case. We're going to apply the law, and I think by the end of the weekend, the president is going to be convicted." I'll also mention two weeks ago, I launched a podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz... And you can hear more this fine information like that what i just said on my podcast! Nice work, Ted. Oops! Stupid Ted. Okay so we had that then we had

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Hakeem Jeffries on Steele Dossier and Tie-Breaker Rules

House Manager Hakeem Jeffries argues that the Steele Dossier was not foreign interference because it was "purchased" opposition research. Chief Justice John Roberts declines to exercise tie-breaking authority in the Senate, citing the 150-year-old precedent from the Andrew Johnson trial. The hosts analyze the 50-50 failure rule for Senate motions.

hakeem jeffries· steele dossier· john roberts· tie-breaker· impeachment

1:02:42 Well then we had just bitter complaining, oh Hakeem Jeffries he was one of the house managers And this was actually, he was... I found that this to be interesting. This is one of the, I think this was Friday you know the last Q&A session or the discussion session and he is answering a question that came of course from one of the senators who slowly walked to the desk, the desk to Justice Roberts taking up all the valuable airtime The question is, Is the Steele dossier could that be considered foreign interference in election? Which, you know considering it was shepherded by a citizen of the UK and included comments and information from Russians arguably yes but Hakeem Jeffries argued it on the floor the opposite way. Distinguished Senators I thank you for the question The analogy is not applicable to the present situation because first to the extent that

1:03:43 opposition research was obtained it was opposition research that was purchased oh what you didn't see that wow i missed that one I loved that one said no,no. It's not election interference if you buy the opposition research but if you're just like scraping it yourself then clearly that is interfering in election. I did get one as one thing that I wanted to play and Q&A era. Yeah, and this was just relates to the last show and this is John Roberts explaining the tiebreaker situation. Yes I got that too yeah that's great i was so happy that he answered that because we didn't really know it was a question which is a new piece of information in there I didn't realize The democratic leader will state the inquiry

1:04:30 Is the Chief Justice aware that in the impeachment trial of President Johnson, Chief Justice Chase as presiding officer cast tie-breaking votes on both March 31 and April 2nd 1868? I am, Mr. Leader the one concerned a motion to adjourn the other concerned a motion to close deliberations uh... i do not regard those isolated episodes 150 years ago as sufficient to support a general authority to break ties if the members of this body elected by the people and accountable to them divide equally on emotion the normal rule is that the motion fails

1:05:11 I think it would be inappropriate for me, an unelected official from a different branch of government to assert the power to change that result so that the motion would succeed. So 50-50 is a fail? Is a loser yeah and now i was watching this vote and I loved how it worked right down to the very last votes you know will it be 50-50 will be 41-4 what's it going to be could they get two more I loved how they killed the mic and waited, and it just...the tally stood stuck there. It was beautiful! That was a good dramatic moment although they forgot the confetti because every show ends with a confetti fountain but Learned some new things Where is it here? Sorry about that now wait a minute. Pick pick oh yeah here it is

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Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, and Sarah Palin's Influence

Senator Lisa Murkowski votes against calling witnesses, citing the politicization of the impeachment process. The hosts suggest that Sarah Palin's threat to primary Murkowski in Alaska may have influenced her decision. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney joins Democrats in voting for witnesses, a move the hosts characterize as an attempt to be a "hero."

lisa murkowski· mitt romney· sarah palin· alaska· witness vote

1:06:12 What they were counting on was or the Democrats were counting on Murkowski from Alaska They thought that she would be one of those votes that could just now in this case It would have still been 50-50. So it would have been a loser and Mitt Romney being the hero that he is, he voted for the witnesses and documents. I think looking back at Murkowski...I think she got in a odd way although it wouldn't have made difference because it would have been 50-50 and thus a loser although I'm sure we could have argued and had hearings about that for another month

1:06:49 I think it was Sarah Palin that actually helped swing this vote in the way that it did. Because she threatened Murkowski, that if she voted to impeach Trump or do anything of the like to remove him, then she would run for her seat in Alaska which I think Murkowski was actually kind of worried about It could happen, and I think that would probably have some—Murkowski herself claimed that the reason she did it is because she saw that there's just a bunch of politic. politicization of the whole process and it was just used to embarrass the president. There's no purpose in it, and so she refused to take part in that. So she took side with Republicans although she could have had other reasons I found one thing that was kind of the argument for the no witnesses that came up on the

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Defense Arguments Against New Witnesses and "Bad Faith" Claims

Trump's legal team argues that the House failed to do its job by rushing the impeachment and then demanding the Senate call the witnesses they neglected to subpoena. Senator Mazie Hirono criticizes the Republican defense as being in "bad faith." The hosts mock Hirono's dismissal of constitutional legal arguments.

due process· adam schiff· mazie hirono· bad faith· constitutional defense

1:07:41 Republican side, one of the president's lawyers gave this little spiel which was not not one bit of it. And I thought this was a pretty good argument because he argues here that the reason that we're not going to go anywhere with this is because there's nothing to it to begin with and that is not even discussed by the mainstream media so I wanted to play it. So this is the argument for no witnesses. So this idea that they haven't had witnesses...that's the smoke screen You've heard from a lot of witnesses. The problem with the case, the problem with their position is even with all of those witnesses it doesn't prove up an impeachable offense. The articles fail I think it's very dangerous if the house runs up which they did articles of impeachment quickly so quickly

1:08:35 that they are clamoring for evidence despite the fact that they put all of this evidence forward. They got their wish of an impeachment by Christmas, that was the goal but now they want you to do the work they failed to do But as I said time and time again we heard You didn't hear from witnesses, you didn't hear from many witnesses Mr Schiff modified that a little bit today A little bit? You heard from a lot of witnesses but if we go down the road of witnesses This is not a one-week process. Remember I talked about the waving the wand and Ukraine, corruption in Ukraine was gone? You're not going to have a witness wand here where we just say okay you got a week to do this and get it done there's no way that would be proper under due process but you know due process is supposed to be for the person accused

1:09:21 and they're turning it on its head. They brought the articles before you, they're the ones that rushed the case up and then held it before you could actually start proceedings but they are the ones who passed the articles before Christmas You know we talked a lot about the court system in fact that they were seeking witnesses when I got close to actually having a court proceeding they decided that they didn't want have that witness go through that proceeding, they actually withdrew the subpoena to move the case out how many Constitutional challenges will we have in this body because they placed a burden on you that they wouldn't take themselves and putting their case forward. If we look at our constitutional framework and our constitutional structure, um... That's not the way it supposed to work. Yeah This was very irritating to a lot of uh.. A lot of the senators

1:10:14 And there's a term for it, which the senator from Hawaii Maisie Hirono coined when she was interviewed. This is president who already we know he has very few constraints on his behavior and there will be even fewer, he will be running around saying that he has been exonerated. No, he has been let off the hook by the Republicans who are not going to vote for his conviction but he is not gonna be set free by the American people I hope who get that this was not a fair trial with no witnesses, no documents. Total stonewalling by the president and I don't care what kind of nice little legal constitutional defenses like they came up with all in my view in bad faith. Nice little...I don't care about your nice little constitutional legal tricks! Damn good, I don't care about that constitutional thing

CHAPTER 26 / 53 Discussion

Black History Month and Gwen Ifill Stamp

The hosts acknowledge Black History Month and the release of a new USPS Forever Stamp honoring the late journalist Gwen Ifill. They reflect on Ifill's tenure at PBS NewsHour, noting that she maintained a level of objectivity that they feel is missing from current news broadcasts.

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1:11:12 Hey Hawaii! Aloha, Hawaii. Vote her out get that woman outta here. Vote her out. Aloha, Hawaii. Before we do anything else I want to say happy Black History Month which really should be ADOS history month And you can always remember when it's Black History Month because it is the shortest month and one of the coldest. That's the way we roll in America, however something really nice happened that we're happy with The United States Postal Service has come out with a black heritage forever stamp Of Gwen Ifill Really? Yeah which I think is really nice for all the crap we gave her. Too many broadcasters get stamps

1:12:03 Yes, yeah. I don't think... well you know it's a good question i don't know um Yeah It's great! It's the typical Gwen Ifill publicity shot headshot and it's uh and it's a forever stamp And we miss Gwen in hindsight when this is something to be learned for ourselves. When was there she made it apparently it was her because once she left It ended. She made sure that the PBS NewsHour was objective and it wasn't like crazy like it is now where they won't listen to anybody's other side of the story, you have two people on there supposed to be debating but they're both in total agreement on everything? Yeah. It's really really bad So we miss Gwen and I'm very happy that she's honored in this small way But cute! I'd take a stamp when I'm dead In fact I'll take that over a plaque Give me a stamp That's perfect forever stamp

CHAPTER 27 / 53 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Episode 1212 "Five Bidens"

The hosts discuss the artwork for episode 1212, titled "Five Bidens," created by Darren O'Neill. They explain their process for selecting titles and art, noting that they rejected a Nigel Farage concept for being "slapdash." They emphasize the importance of high-quality, "popping" art in the value-for-value model.

darren o'neill· nigel farage· podcast art· joe biden· value for value

1:12:58 Alright, get in this stamp. Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room let's do a quick count we got 1381 it's on the upper end so a lot of trolls hey trolls noagendastream.com is where you can join your fellow trolls not just on show days which is Thursday and second Thursdays but 24-7. There's always someone in there, I pop in all the time just say hey see what's going on people are watching you know watching what's going on the news that listening to whatever podcast may be rolling we do have a lot of live ones it's a great place to hang out and soon to be new and improved noagenderstream.com is pretty bare bones right now but the chat room or as we call it the troll room is really the place to be In the morning as well too Darren O'Neill

1:13:59 Once again, Darren hit the-hit it on the head with the artwork for episode 1212. We titled that one Five Bidens and broke a rule! We don't typically... only one person caught it that mentioned at least We somebody caught it. Well, yeah on Twitter we try to keep the we have three open three elements of post-production for the show we have the title for the show we have the The artwork and we have the opening clip then we actually look for the opening clip first Then we go for the artwork then we go for the title and five

1:14:35 Five Bidens was it was just a good title. It's very no agenda title we tried a couple others, but we already kind of settled on the This sound the mixing panel or the the mixing module for Joe Biden clearly run by his sound guy Reverb all the way up distortion all the way up. I didn't personally in hindsight, I think that dishonesty Dial was it was funny but I don't think Joe is really dishonest he's just out of it and So I could have been gave off a political message that I didn't think was necessary at five. It would probably be more accurate Yeah, if it's been half and notch but still Darren O'Neill nailed it and we'd really appreciate There were some other ones that we looked at. Um, I can't remember exactly what the

1:15:27 What some of the objections were what was the other there was one other one we liked which I think it was well Let's go back and look Actually, I'm seeing things. Oh the Nigel Farage with the head in Inside The European Union stars oh yeah, I like that one and then we both or I think Adam noticed before I did but It was not centered, it was kind of thrown slapdash. It was the right idea but execution just didn't quite make it so... Yeah especially when you had to compare if you can compare to the O'Neill piece which was extremely high end and very precise

1:16:10 But we appreciate the work that all of our artists do. Thank you so much again, like to do these analysis I should mention To give the artist some feedback inside into how we do it and to begin with so you can get so you can cheat the system It truly is a fact that less is often more And it's got to pop. We all know it's gotta pop, because we want to stand out amongst that huge row of podcasts and whenever the art changes its noticeable It's just another way people are reminded that there is still a best podcast in the universe and That's the one you wanna tap on click on etc. Noagendaartgenerator.com part of our value for value model

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Producer Donations and Palindrome Day Numerology

The hosts process donations from executive producers, highlighting the unique numerology of February 2, 2020 (0202-2020). They perform knightings for Sir Shible and Sir Thomas from Austria. The segment includes requests for "human resource karma" and "shape-shifting Jew" jingles.

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1:16:54 where everybody contributes in one form or the other. Sometimes it's an intelligence analyst wishing to remain anonymous but giving us deep inside analysis of things that he is already looking at, or she is already looking at... It can be you heard four Coronavirus jingles in a row. That's the value for value model right there We also need to pay bills and we thank goodness We have a lot of producers who can contribute monetarily. We'd like to credit the ones $200 and above as our Associate executive producers at 300 and above is our executive producers for each episode. We also mentioned them earlier on just like a Hollywood production

1:17:33 Although, you get the title but you just don't get all the cool perks. There's no limo, no four seasons dinner and no hookers. Anonymous starts us off with a nice 12-12 donation which may have been from the last show. Probably holy, holy macaroni anonymous then JNK which is about as easy as it comes. Well Thank you very much anonymous that was it so no jingles No karma just Wow no game know nothing and this is a special day may want to reiterate that we have this super palindrome going on which It's just, it's the 33rd day of the year. There's 333 days to go because it's a leap year. It's a palindrome 0202-2020 in any country and any ISO format or...it won't happen for another what 900 years? Yeah! 900 years

1:18:26 Well, this was that... it doesn't address that. This is the last week's number 1212. No I know but i'm already moving on to what we have what we'll see later on in our donation segment you know in the segment here next is Randall Schloble. Shible you think? Yeah, S-C-H-A-I-B-L. Oh yeah, Shible, looks like an L. Somerville Massachusetts, Massachusetts 333.69. Jingle request go Karma China's asshole and I love bugs ITM John and Adam thank you for your courage and for making the greatest podcast in the universe with this donation i become a knight! Wooo! I'd like to be called Sir Shible

1:19:12 My friend Mary, who has been a long time listener needs to be called out for being a douchebag. Oh, Ketu can do that? Also got a birthday coming up in February 4th I'm turning 26 Assume he's on the list check it out Adam you Converted me to the OTG life Okay! Thank you every day for the sanity that alone has brought me Well your so welcome Outstanding. I'd like to know how OTG are you? Let us know, it's always interesting and here is what you requested. China is asshole!

1:20:08 Next is Thomas Hitchhaller, 321. He's from Austria. John and Adam I'm sending... Sorry? I think he's from Austria Yeah AT, Austria is from Austria What did I say? No no yeah, no I just jumped in and just inserted myself. I'm sorry I'm sending you a countdown donation in appreciation of the services you provide. Austria is great country, people should visit it. You provided me over the years my amygdala being the main beneficiary but this donation also comes with some critique. My last karma request did not produce the intended results after considering the possibilities for this failure I was left with the realization that my donation amount was too low for the requested service so

1:20:53 up the ante to try again. Please send some extra potent new human resource karma to me and my smoking hot wife, eat pizza." The fun life has to end at some point right? Time to get settled in serious but before that and as usual can we get this shape-shifting Jews keep up the good work with all the best from Austria Sir Thomas the unbelieving knight Okay, so what I think you and I don't I don't think has anything to do with the donation amount per se but I think you need a swazzle enough karma Which is an old one which? Really only pertain to a certain donation amount. So I will play that for you with the karma It'll be the Swazilov Karma that should work

1:21:44 Roll up, roll up for the magical shapeshifting Jew! Step right this way. Roll up, roll up for the shape-shifting Jew! 69, 69 You've got karma. Now, if that doesn't work then I don't know what will. Well who knows? Joseph Pinto in Atlanta Georgia comes into as the first associate executive producer 23333 I'm broke. Requesting jobs, Karma. Joseph also call out Philip hit me in the mouth after listening to twit for being a douchebag. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. All right man hope that works out Joseph so now i have an issue with the next donation okay

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Size Queen Love and PechaKucha 20x20 Global Events

A producer promotes a podcast titled "Size Queen Love," while Sir Mark, the Duke of Japan, discusses the PechaKucha 20x20 movement. PechaKucha, a storytelling format involving 20 images shown for 20 seconds each, is celebrating a global day on February 20, 2020. The hosts note the parallels between PechaKucha's value-for-value model and No Agenda.

size queen love· pechakucha· tokyo· mark dytham· value for value

1:22:45 Now, this person who I won't mention at the moment asked to just read for me to read an anonymous note. but he never said anything about being anonymous, but I'm making him anonymous. So I'm just gonna read you the note and then you can tell me how I'm supposed to handle this it's too late now, but gentlemen, I am sending this anonymous note to accompany my 202 50 donation by check. My request is a plug for a podcast that I produced for a dear friend of mine in fact, I think its show that your respective wives would enjoy its size queen love

1:23:22 Size Queen well-endowed men and the women who love them I'm sure the keepers already subscribed find it online at size queen love.com And thanks for continuing to deliver high quality shows for your producers All right, so I guess we just put sighs Queen Love as the producer credit in this case or anonymous Well, probably not. Well either one I don't care. I like size Queen love as a producer credit that's kind of cool Onward with Sir Mark Duke of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea 20220 this is going to be our group of two or 220s which are the commemorative amount through John and Adam

1:24:12 The perfect day to donate twenty dollars to two hundred dollars two dollars and twenty cents thank you for always making sense of our world and being the only news source we trust. It's not often that we want to plug something for the producers of no agenda but here it comes yes where are the architects really what twenty twenty is a big year for us as our Pecha Kucha. Pecha Kucha 20 by 20 show and tell format which Dame Astrid and I devised is based on showing twenty images yes they do this is one of their things they do this it this is a worldwide thing, this is not just in Japan yeah no there big on this this is that their thing big is their big thing this is their NOA agenda is Pecha Kucha

1:25:01 Okay, you have you show 20 images was auto forward for 20 seconds each. We started in Tokyo in 2003 and pet chukucha nights have spread around the world to over 1200 cities with over 100 events each month Just like no agenda, we run it on a value for value model and that's why it spread far and wide. The number of parallels with no agenda are unbelievable especially now that the no agenda meetups are growing globally people simply love getting together on the 20th of February 2020-2020 will be holding our our international Petra Kucha, it's actually the 20th of this month. Petra Kucha Day in 100 cities and we are hope to have 1000 presentations and will be made around the world then check out what we're up to at here you go ipk2020.com

1:25:54 IPK2020.com anyone can find an event near them or make a presentation online with our new create platform just upload 20 images voice and share Petcha Kucha you and no agenda oh come on put your soul into it man Petcha Kucha You and no agenda are family. So here's to the next 20 Thank you for your courage, sir Mark Duke of Japan all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea at No Jingles No Karma Yeah this petruch I have successfully been able to miss twice in Austin once because there was flooding believe it or not The whole event was flooded out But this is a phenomenon the Petra cooch is a big deal then It's just fun to say a petricucha

CHAPTER 30 / 53 Discussion

Super Bowl Predictions and "Choke Artist" Coaches

The hosts discuss the upcoming Super Bowl LIV between the Chiefs and the 49ers. They analyze the political optics of the game, including the Chiefs' "Trump-Kanye" sweatshirt controversy and the 49ers' female coach. They debate which coach, Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan, is more likely to "choke" based on their post-season histories.

kansas city chiefs· san francisco 49ers· andy reid· kyle shanahan· super bowl liv

1:26:40 Come over here. I'll pet your coochie with that do you put your coochie? It's gotta be better than the TED talks let's put it that way well, and thank you You're making a great point and Ted talks is all this crazy stuff That what you can and can't do I don't think there's any rules for Petra Coucha just 20 by 20 enroll with it Oh, that's great They're doing good work Wow so we heard from sir mark and Dame Astor in one show. That's nice Yeah John Grumling snicks of two hundred two dollars and twenty cents This is my annual donation and the palindrome made it a little more fun. No karma or anything since that usually doesn't work out for me anyway. That's something to be said for knowing what it does or doesn't do thank you very much John. Thank You anonymous 2020

1:27:26 Adam and John, as it happens I'm turning 33 on this 33rd day of 2020 which is of course 2-2. I would like to make sure that I am on the right side of karmic palindromic dimensional wormhole today so here's some value for value. I could use some job startup karma and heres hoping the auspicious birthday slash palindrome has a multiplier effect on said karma for jingles maybe just some angelic initiatives of choice yep I just for good measure yes and keep up the good work 73 so yeah 73 skido 5 alpha Charlie Charlie and here you go you were the president oops that's not what i wanted i wanted the nice little iso that's what we wanted that's true jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:28:19 You've got karma. Dame Laura, the Snowy Cascades 2020 no jingles no karmic and then she writes go Chiefs! Yeah Go Chiefs today is the big day I'm very excited about the Super Bowl I love you know... Well, because I'm in such conflict. We have so...I know that first I was thinking the Chiefs will win and then because of the racist nature of their name and that'll bring it to the forefront and then I thought well no wait a minute its gotta be the 49ers

1:29:04 They have the first, you know they have a female coach not the head coach but female coach and she's queer or gay or lesbian whatever it is which doesn't matter. And then all of a sudden the Chiefs quarterback was wearing a Trump Kanye sweatshirt so I'm like wow do it... Is it the San Francisco Nancy Pelosi versus the Kansas City Trumpy Chiefs? And I'm like, I'm not sure which way it's going to go. And then I see the real news is out that the Super Bowl will feature women owners on each side for the first time in history so it's got to be the 49ers even though I really despise your team and California and everything about it. Well let's go to another source we don't have his donation today even though I think he sent one in but didn't come in on time it was over the limit

1:29:57 But for obvious reasons, this is Fugazotto. Yeah or Earl? He says he goes on about these octopuses emotional support octopus and he has one of the I thought it was from one of the teams but then I looked closer and I see he says go chefs! Go chefs! So i guess its the food service people he's rooting for So go chefs. I mean, I will be rooting for the Chiefs but I really think that the fix is in for the 49ers and you're gonna have the chiefs are there both teams are fun to watch and The curious thing is that she's offense is fun to watch and the foreigners defense is fun to wash so you're gonna It'll be fun to watch it'll be a fun game to watch both team Here's another movie since we're talking about

1:30:48 The coaches on both teams have a history of choking, which makes it really interesting. The big guy on the Chiefs of Andy reads a coach and he's a big fat guy And he was in the Super Bowl before and they lost and it was a choke job. I mean then the 49ers head coach used to was there guy? It was one of they wasn't the head coach, but he was the offensive coordinator I believed in the Atlantic game when they played the Patriots, and it was the biggest choke job in the history of the Super Bowl. So we have two guys that are potential massive choke artists playing against each other something's got to give who will choke the hardest? We'll find out later today onward with Sir Woody of The Falls in Sioux Falls South Dakota $202 20 cents

CHAPTER 31 / 53 Discussion

Birthday Knightings and Navy Retirement

Sir Woody of the Falls celebrates his 73rd birthday on Groundhog Day with a donation. Sir Silver Dude, who recently retired from the Navy after 20 years, requests "stop the hammering" and "goat karma." The hosts acknowledge the "magic 20" numerology in his retirement and donation.

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1:31:43 Merry Groundhog Day, something else we forgot about. At 435 p.m., I will complete my 73rd revolution around the old sun. Congratulations! On this eventful day, I would like to express my gratitude for all you do. The world just wouldn't be right without the No Agenda show." Thank you very much from this old geezer on his birthday Sir Woody of the Falls. Hey well... Sir Woody, you're not old! You're still perfectly fine to be president so you could be the leader of the free world. Maybe too young to be president? Exactly don't put yourself down too much and thank you very much for supporting us that is incredibly appreciated

1:32:20 And he's got a birthday. Yes, uh ono oh no ono uno priest or in soosed $202 and two cents that's netherlands Uh celebrating 020222020 the day that my youngest human resource celebrates her 22nd birthday As she is now looking at Next steps in her education, a special goat karma for her would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the info sane mint that's one we don't use enough Info sane meant the best podcast in universe gives me unlike In my youth the two Sundays a week or something to look forward to A few karmas would be much appreciated I'm sure this will also help to contain the Chinese plague from spreading and before I forget Epstein didn't kill himself You've got

1:33:14 Later in the show, we're going to have some testimony from the Weinstein case that will curl your hair. Yeah I love it yes with yes it will curl your hair and other things Sir Silver Dude of The Silver Dolphins 20202 in Severn Maryland It's an order of stop the hammering and goat karma for all who need it. I am no numerologist, but 0202-2020 looks pretty cool to me." After realizing that I missed donating in January, I filed a

1:33:56 felt obliged to correct the error. Also, I retired from the Navy last February after 20 years of some work lots of waiting and lots of doses of mandatory fun! I'll look for more examples of The Magic Twenty to freak me out keep it wacky! Congratulations Sir Silver dude that's nice well deserved Stop up the hammering You've got karma Sorry he needed a goat karma redo You've got Karma.

CHAPTER 32 / 53 Discussion

Canadian Media Deconstruction and The Rebel

A listener from Calgary asks for Canadian media deconstruction sources, and the hosts recommend Ezra Levant's "The Rebel." They discuss the $600 million government subsidy for "good media" in Canada. The segment includes a "Klobuchar" jingle and a discussion on the phrase "that sounds pretty good."

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1:34:37 Greetings from Calgary, Canada. I hit got hit in the mouth a year or two ago from her friend at first that was fearful that it was a podcast that was just a right-wing conspiracy outlet to defend Trump. I stuck with it and realized when you deconstruct media and all they talk about is orange man bad It can't seem that way exactly Seeing how the media operates has been an eye-opener and scary since they are still deemed trustworthy. Not by us! If any of the dames and knights out there know of an outlet doing the same deconstruction thing here in Canada, that would be great to hear. Yeah I would say The Rebel

1:35:22 The rebel comes pretty yeah, oh the rebel. Yeah, the rebel comes very close Yeah, there's good material on the rebels for sure for sure We're getting pretty divided up here and when the PM Gifts what he deems good media six hundred million dollars it creates dot-dot-dot Questions I actually have a clip about that for later Good anyways After hearing the horse race, I knew it was time to do the de-do get dedouched. You've been Deduced and get some karma working for the newcomer that just started with some friends that could request some goat karma followed by a clobuchar think that sounds pretty good and finally a

1:36:12 I have to say the Amy, that sounds pretty good. That's become our new... We've dropped that's true from our vocabulary here at home and now everything is hey ready for dinner? It was like that sounds pretty good! Thank you very much thank you very much. A bit more idiotic. I think that sounds pretty good. You've got karma Shoot! Goat Karma. I screwed it up again, everyone's asking for goat karma today. Do it again then. You've got... karma. Better than doing it over. I wonder what these double doses are gonna do? William Bagdon and Conshohokin.

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Coronavirus Genetic Code and Small Business Karma

A donor points out that the coronavirus genetic code reportedly contains 33 "A" nucleotides at the end, which the hosts link to their ongoing numerology discussions. Another donor expresses concern that the "Kung Flu" will lead to martial law and a collapsed economy. The hosts grant small business karma to a producer in Colorado.

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1:37:03 Conchoco, I can't pronounce this city. It's $200 from him and he is in Pennsylvania. It's concha Hogan. Concha Hogan? Conja Hawken yeah something like that. Yeah I've been man overboard for a while but I can't ignore that the coronavirus contains the magic number of eight nuclear tights by informatics stack exchange What? Yeah, well this is what we discussed. It has the DNA... Oh yes! The genetic code has 33 A's at the end Yes yes yes We did Well of course I mean you-we have not ignored that. We discussed it immediately. We talked about it on the last show And its obvious. That means something is up Something is UP

1:37:53 And what the no jingles, no karma looks like from William. That's fine. Jason Gray is last on the list in North Glen Colorado at 200 bucks love to show I may not make it to knighthood as Kung flu will undoubtedly lead to martial law forced vaccinations and the collapse of the economy will all be OTG Shout out to the open eyes that hit me in the mouth, Claude and Tigger, LJ and Striker. Any small business karma would be appreciated as I venture into a new field. You've got karma!

1:38:34 And that is our list of associate executive producers and executive producers, although I'm probably going to include Eric from Stockholm up in the list because it looks like there could be an amount of money that didn't translate. Something got lost in the Euro translation? Yeah, so we'll probably push him up but he doesn't have a note. Unless...does he have a note or not? He has no note. Well, I will go look on email in the next segment but There's no reason for that one 99 is not anonymous and now just make sense. Maybe he just I don't know who knows what anyway Thank you very much to our associate and our straight-up executive producers a good showing for today Thanks for participating in the magic number of the palindrome it makes everybody feel good It's a great number, and you help your podcast continue to be produced And that is highly appreciated

CHAPTER 34 / 53 Discussion

Canadian Internet Regulation and Wuhan Drones

Reports from Wuhan show drones with loudspeakers yelling at citizens to wear masks. In Canada, a government advisory panel recommends that the CRTC regulate internet media to counter "harmful content" and misinformation. Ezra Levant of The Rebel criticizes the report for using the word "regulate" 54 times and threatening free speech.

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1:39:29 Appreciate it and we'll be thanking more people in our second segment coming up later on remember We are here twice a week on Thursdays or Sundays what alternatively but we're here. We're always here And we're here because we love doing the best podcast in universe with you and you can support us for our next show Which will be on Thursday all you do is go to the vorac org slash n a pretty sure your speed on all things Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Apparently, they're flying these drones. Have you seen these videos? No. They're flying these drones around Wuhan and the drone has loudspeakers on them and the drones fly up over your head and start yelling at you if you don't wear a mask! Oh! And apparently it was some little kid who didn't know what the hell was going on he runs down the street scared to death Wow

1:40:53 No, I have not seen these videos. I did want to just jump in on what our producer said who was it who was talking about the 600 million dollar yes that was a Trevor from Calgary so i just i just clipped this this morning from The Rebel actually who is complaining about this about a new policy paper that has come out about elections in Canada and actually the title of it Canadian government wants to regulate internet media according to a cabinet advisory panel who released this, well, advisory paper as to what the Canadian government should do to protect its citizens from horrible disinformation. And Canada does have a constitutional clause about freedom of speech and

1:41:46 freedom of expression and free in fact I think it expressly states freedom to use all media to communicate your message which would include podcasts and YouTube etc. So, I chopped it down a bit this is Ezra Levant from the rebel discussing this very interesting case in Canada The word regulate appears 54 times in their report 54! Of course it did like this We recommend that the CRTC regulate certain internet media content undertakings. Oh, really? Of course you do! Let me give you an example of one their proposals

1:42:21 In an increasingly connected society, an appropriate balance should be struck between maintaining a free and open space for the exchange of ideas and information respecting and protecting individual collective rights and freedoms. And not further marginalizing Canadians from diverse social locations at the core of the challenges posed by harmful content is the question of the rights and responsibilities of digital intermediaries for the accuracy or appropriateness of information that is distributed on, or shared via their platforms in any related social harms that may be caused? Hang on. I mean...I know the Charter of Rights it has a section called Fundamental Freedoms

1:43:09 And it says everyone has the following fundamental freedoms. It's granted to me as an individual, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of thought etc So how are they going to do this? How are they going to regulate the internet when they want the government to decide A strong, financially stable and independent news sector that delivers diverse accurate trusted and reliable sources of news to Canadians through a variety of media is essential for the health of democracy and to engage citizenry. It is also necessary to counter the spread of misinformation facilitated by communications technologies this section focuses on ensuring that Canadians have access to a wide range of accurate reliable and trusted sources of Canadian news

1:43:50 They're certain of their truth. My point is, who's telling the truth and who is lying and everything in between? Well that's ours as individuals to figure out it's part of life but this Trudeau hand-picked panel wants to make determinations for you by using the government That's right! So that's what your looking at Canada It's just like the UK man You don't actually have free speech And we are getting very close to being shut down here as well Oh yeah I mean not really shut down We don't quite have the government, well we actually do have the government saying we can't have dishonest ads for political ads that can and will happen as if not every politician lies one way or another. Let's talk about lying in this sort of thing just by getting into a couple clips I've been wanting to play. Well it would be nice if I had the right sheet of paper somehow moved again go on with your next thing

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Dairy Council Corruption in Television Media

Dr. Mark Hyman shares a story about the Dairy Council's influence on The Martha Stewart Show, where a trainer was forced to promote milk as a sports drink. Adam Curry recounts a similar experience from his time as a TV host in the Netherlands, where he was given a new Volvo 480 ES in exchange for drinking milk during interviews, including one with Mick Jagger.

dairy council· martha stewart· dr. mark hyman· mick jagger· volvo

1:44:52 Okay, well here it is. Nope. It's not any that Falling apart there you are and while I was going to play something that I know is actually kind of related to the To the donation segment our value for value model so I'll do that here now anyway You're looking for this is a quick clip dr.. Mark Hyman Is he on the show The Doctors maybe? He's definitely a TV show doctor and he relates a story about how incredibly corrupt television is specifically when it I mean, it's incredibly corrupt in general

1:45:28 But this one example was interesting to me because of something that I witnessed and participated in 35 years ago. And this is about the inherent dishonesty of television media, in this case a health-related show when it comes to sponsors advertisers or native ads not being disclosed. I can tell you a story from the past because the shows not on the air anymore. It was The Martha Stewart Show I was on the show and working with a producer, we were talking about getting healthy and working out and detoxing. Martha had her trainer there. The producer says well we're going to have do a bit as part of the segment on dairy and how dairy is such a great sports recovery drink. No way! Yes. So I was like you know I'm just sorry to tell you but all this evidence that's not true

1:46:18 Download all the scientific papers documenting the science behind the fact that dairy isn't a sports drink. And he's like, I know but we kind of have to because this spot is sponsored by The Dairy Council and then if you're ever on television you know that experts don't get notes they don't get cue cards they don't get teleprompters they have to know their stuff Well, this woman who was the trainer had all these cue cards that was being held up about dairy with all the bullet points of why dairy is such a great food and sports drink. It's insidious so we think we're getting news or thinking any authentic from experts too. From doctors or specialists or experts and we are influenced by these experts. Huge! I mean it... The evidence is so clear that you know industry is heavily funding science. Well, I don't know if we call it science but

1:47:07 I heard this and it surprises nobody, but i wanted to relate a story that happened to me 35 years ago with the Dutch Dairy Council when I was doing the television show in The Netherlands. Maybe I was just 20. I started when I was 19. And a decision was made, and I wasn't really clued into it in the beginning. It's oh yeah you're going to do this for every interview you do we're gonna put a glass of milk here and the guest typically had a coke or beer whatever or glass of wine and it would just be on the table, and then a certain point uh the producer said yeah could you could you take a drink of that during the interview? I'm like wait a minute so they literally wanted me to take a drink of milk while i'm interviewing Mick Jagger. So Mick Jagger's answering your question and then I take a drink of milk which is- They cut to me full frame! And so I said hey...and this was still on public

1:48:08 public broadcast television so it was clearly not entirely legal or it was sounds illegal and well and I said what is going on here? And they said would you like a new car, and I said yes. That was the end of the conversation! And I drank milk during interviews for two years non-stop they were...I have no idea how much they were getting from the Dairy Council. But did you get a car? Yeah I didn't It was brand new, but it was a Volvo 480 ES. I don't think they make it anymore as one of the first Volvo sports cars which yes indeed is an oxymoron or its contradiction in terms at best

1:48:51 So you said that little car was pretty cool. That's been going on for decades and decades and decades, and that's why we love doing this show here because it's yeah We don't have any damn honest like I'll get the we don't get the hookers or their free cars are nothing no We got some use some CBD solve Nice nice gifts from our producers. No spices bumper stickers cool stuff hats we get some hats Alright, did you find what you were looking for?

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Titania McGrath Hoax and Woke Media Culture

Comedian Andrew Doyle discusses his "Titania McGrath" spoof account and a hoax article he submitted to The Independent under a pseudonym. The article, which called for hate speech laws in comedy, was published because it aligned with the outlet's "woke" agenda. The hosts discuss how "cancel culture" affects advertising on shows like Tucker Carlson's.

titania mcgrath· andrew doyle· the independent· cancel culture· tucker carlson

1:49:39 Farage and all these guys on there, but this is Andrew Doyle. Andrew Doyle is a comic But it's very serious comic in this interview and he's the guy who does that fake character, what's her name is I think Miriam something some Tachiana McGrath. I think it's a name and if you are on Twitter you run into this Tachiana McGrath Oh yeah the spoof account Yeah i gotcha It's a spoof account and she plays or he plays her and she is a a liberal, kind of a lib joe type and she says all these dumb stuff. It's very entertaining to watch yes it's very entertaining to read but here's this guy talking about Brexit and some other things in these two clips the second clip really applies on what you just played but let's play clip one The causes of anti-racism, anti sexism, anti homophobia, anti transphobia all that kinda stuff

1:50:38 These are good causes that virtually everyone gets on board with, right? So we're talking about a minority of social justice activists who have so much power. That's the problem with them is that if it were just a few people on Twitter mouthing off I wouldn't care about that It is a minority, but they seem to have infected all the sort of major institutions in the country. Right? So they're there in the quangos right there that we do and the government outsources all kinds of authority that are there in the law, that are there in education, certainly there in the media, 100% there in the arts you know, they totally dominate comedy and the arts and drama and TV so when you have a small group of people

1:51:20 who come generally from very bourgeois backgrounds, a face of privileged people talking about how oppressed they are but running everything. That's kind of funny so it's quite good idea to mock that because I think Personally, I like to punch up in comedy. You know there's all this stuff about punching up and punching down right? And I like to punch up. I like to attack those in power and this is where the debate lies you see so the people who don't like what I do will say that I punched down at minority groups even though minority groups are never the target right? So that's just kind of a basic misinterpretation but quite a common one

1:51:58 But I'm sort of attacking those who would patronize the minority groups, those who want to try and engineer society in the way that they want. Those who have a complete intolerance to any kind of dissent, any kind of alternative viewpoint even just basic discussion of principle you know? So what he's talking about there is how the social justice wars have taken over everything which is why our show gets attention because we're not part of that group but but they run the media, this is John Legend. Well it's not just John Legend and sleeping giants it's the cancel culture and its very frightening for big brands in particular because they don't quite know exactly if that tweet storm or wherever it's going to end I think typically on Twitter because thats part of mainstream media machine really it quoted them most in the journalists are all on there

1:52:53 So what and you can still go look at Fox News. You can look at Tucker Carlson He's still running my pillow comm ads And it's amazing that he's on the maybe took a pay cut or something because they are not making the money They need to make and that's purely because none of the pharmaceuticals none of the other big brands want to advertise on his show because all they get is the tweet storm of people saying, oh you're evil. You must be Nazis and big brands walk away from it it's an unfortuitous addition to my statement that you can't monetize the network for this very reason for cancel culture well doesn't happen to us so this guy who was a character decided to write in op-ed

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Education System and the "Stupefied" Public

The hosts argue that the modern education system and the transition from newspapers to television have "stupefied" the public. They discuss the lack of critical thinking skills that allowed The Independent to fall for a hoax. They characterize the internet as "television in network form" and lament the decline of competitive journalism.

education· boob tube· newspapers· internet· critical thinking

1:53:43 and sent it into the I think at the Telegraph or the Express. Oh, beautiful as under a pseudonym of course under a pseudo name and it was just in It was about how comics should be there should be special laws against hate speech and comedy clubs And apparently they took it hook, line and sinker and other people started writing about this in agreement. It's already in Prime Minister question time I'm sure! So here is this part... This is very funny if you listen to the details Now you wrote a fantastic article for The Independent that was completely out there and they published it under... You submitted it under Not Your Name Can you talk about that? Why do you think so many people thought

1:54:30 for Titani-McGrath being real. So you're talking about an article by Liam Evans which is for the Independent? Yes, so Liam Evans submitted an article... Liam Evans doesn't exist and it was obviously a hoax like so clearly a hoax what he was saying was that comedians need to be subject hate speech laws and he gave a couple of examples and said basically the police ought to get involved now this is such a kind maddeningly authoritarian stance that, you know if I were working at the Independent I would look at that and think well this is not real is it? This isn't made up. This is someone trying to hoax us but the fact they published it because

1:55:11 because they agreed with the sentiment, right? That's what it exposed. It also exposed the kind of... I suppose the lack of any kind of background check this was a complete unknown to someone with no online presence nothing. Critical thinking skills! So nothing there all is is they wanted to push a woke agenda right and its just that in that article which is still online if you take the fourth letter every sentence it spells out Titania McGrath wrote this you gullible hacks now im not suggesting they should have spotted that But the article in of itself was so obviously made up and of course The point of this, I mean some people accused or suggested that the point of this was to try and suggest that there's a sort of widespread view. This widespread intolerance towards comedy and this widespread puritanism when it comes to comedy There is that! I don't think its as widespread as people think but its there But actually the target of that satire was the media, was the woke media who absolutely would just go along with anything with no thought

1:56:14 just sort of blindly push an agenda and you know so it works but I mean have a look at the art, it's ludicrous. It's utterly stupid and saying that ever since then there has been a few articles that have come out that are even worse Yeah... Where does this come from? How did this happen? Well, this is what we're trying to figure out and I... We actually talked about this. Didn't we talk about this just briefly after the show? Yes, after the show that last show we talked about where does it come from? It's in the educational system and one of the things we kind of both identified in fact you've kind of just proven the point that all this stuff goes way back. You have that 30 year old anecdote about the milk but

1:56:56 I'm starting to think that it came about with the security state after World War II. It started with the takeover of the education by the woke, the education system and I think a lot of it has all do with television and none of this maybe would even take place if there weren't these screens... Well time to remind everybody that when I was a kid and I get to say that now with my double nickels when I was a kid we were limited to how much TV we could watch And it was don't sit too close, don't watch too much. It's gonna rot your brain this was a and I'm sure that was propagated by the book industry or whatever but... It was called-I don't think the book industry needed to do that. It was called The Boob Tube. Boob tube yeah and you know these days you know you see kids in the stroller on iPads

1:57:50 The newspapers did nothing about this they couldn't compete that do you talk about the death of the newspapers? They used to be competitive, but then they didn't do TV news started taking their Stealing their lunch and of course now they blamed the internet But the Internet's not the problem. The Internet is just television in network form and In a hard-to-monetize form which makes it that much more interesting And so you have this situation where the entire public has become stupefied, but to the extent that it is we're talking about.

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The Perestroika Deception and KGB Subversion

The hosts revisit the warnings of KGB defectors Yuri Bezmenov and Anatoly Golitsyn regarding the long-term subversion of the West through the education system. They discuss the book "The Perestroika Deception," which claims the collapse of the Soviet Union was a strategic disinformation campaign to achieve a totalitarian world government.

yuri bezmenov· anatoly golitsyn· kgb· perestroika· marxism

1:58:27 Is it really any worse with the idiots at The Independent printing this guy's, and by the way I made a mistake when I said Liam Evans was the interviewer. That is not the case that was the fake name for this article If The Independent is so stupid as to run this fake hoax Jonathan Swift kind of essay just without even doing any research or checking out or even thinking that its phony or fake...I'm not convinced that this wouldn't have happened 40 years ago. Well, this kind of explains why this was in my clip bin and I brought it to the show and thinking how does this relate to anything? And it kind of relates to this the education system so we

1:59:15 I'm sure you've seen the old Soviet spy guy. We've played clips from on YouTube where he says, ah this we attacked America we attacked the West through the educational system and brought in all these Marxist Leninists thinking and so...I don't know how this wound up my clip bin but it's two minutes so i'll play it. But before you play that when what you just said just as a reminder earlier in the show we pointed out the stupidity of Harvard Hiring these spies from China. Yes, I mean it's very easy for the educational system to be corrupted Do you remember the highest levels the? McElhaney report McElhaney I think was how do we pronounce it McElhaney reported was on TV and in like the mid to late 90s I want to say an earlier

2:00:06 Could have been or well some of the references in this go don't go back that far so this it's not from 2011 was the upload date, so I was trying to source a date for it But this is the title. This was the perestroika deception and It kind of explains in an odd way the Yeah, the guy I'm talking with KGB defector Yuri Besmanov. Thank you troll room that's that's the guy who warned America that The Soviet Union not Russia The Soviet Union had set us up for this, you know hollowing out the West from From within through the educational system so this is just an introduction and I encourage everyone to watch it It's a whole hour. This is just two minutes of the introduction

2:00:52 of the Perestroika Deception, which I believe is the fourth book that this particular author who's being interviewed put out. And let's just see if it pertains – I think it does. I think it connects to this. Welcome to The McElhaney Report. I'm Bill McElhaney. On this show we cover current issues of the day but always from a viewpoint or perspective rarely aired by the mass media. We hope you'll find it interesting Since 1989, the world has been told that the Soviet Union collapsed and that except for several countries communism is dead and the US won the Cold War. The truth? The reality is quite the reverse! Everything we have witnessed since 1989 has been a massive and successful multi-decade long deception strategy on the part of KGB, the Soviet secret police.

2:01:43 to deceive the West and achieve the goal of Leninist strategy, a totalitarian world government or international police state. We know this from the evidence provided by Anatoly Galitsyn, the most important defector from the KGB who came to America in 1961 In 1980, he wrote a book, New Lies for Old that was published in 1984 which described the disinformation strategy and made specific predictions as to what the KGB would do in subsequent years such as removing the Berlin Wall changing the name of the KGB itself and other structures in the Soviet hierarchy. And also the role to be played by Mikhail Gorbachev

2:02:27 An independent analysis of these predictions years later showed that over 94% of them came true by 1991 and since then. That's how we know Galitsin was telling the truth, and quite correct." Our guest today, who first appeared on this show in 1995 is uniquely qualified to expose this conspiratorial strategy. Based in London he publishes 10 newsletters and reviews on economic financial and political intelligence including Soviet analysts these invaluable periodicals incorporate the understanding of post 1989 events provided by Anatoly Galitsin He's published Galitsin second book

2:03:09 Perestroika deception. He's also published Joseph Douglas' Red Cocaine on the Soviet strategy of using drugs to sabotage the West, and he's published a very important book The European Union Collective on the regional world government now in place over both Europe and Britain. So it was Antoni Golitsin, which is a different guy but he was also KGB defector. And I had a couple of takeaways from this because if you've watched that whole interview it's clear that there were definitely Leninist Marxists messaging pumped into the Western school system particularly in the United States

CHAPTER 39 / 53 Discussion

Millennial Social Interaction and the "Line Cutter" Test

Adam Curry shares an anecdote about a millennial at Whole Foods who refused to go ahead of him in line despite having only one item. The hosts theorize that millennials suffer from extreme social anxiety or a rigid adherence to "order" instilled by their upbringing. They contrast this with the "boomer" tendency to confront line cutters.

millennials· social anxiety· whole foods· line cutting· marxism

2:03:46 But also when you listen, I mean...I was in the Soviet Union in 1989 just before David Hasselhoff personally brought the wall down. A lot of politicians who are still in Congress today looking at these 70 to 80 year olds they probably have this this in their head like You know, that this and I can't really blame them for it to a degree. It's like this is nothing different This is still they just changed the name of the KGB to the FSB your thought Yeah well, I mean I looked I always thought that guy was kind of an alarmist but as we witness more and more and more especially what's going on now with his latest group the

2:04:30 the Millennials and the Z's, Zoomers. They're very susceptible to this it seems like they got it from the beginning and get on the media they get on TV they get it from the news. Well if anything that just supports... If anything they've been taught to subject to authority Don't question authority. It's on the news, it must be true. And it goes thus, and I only noticed this recently. So i'm in line at one of the whole foods or one of these types of places and I've got a cart full of stuff and there's somebody behind me, a millennial almost always

2:05:21 And the millennial has like one item, the last most recent example which triggered the thinking because I'm starting to see a pattern. She had one pint of ice cream and I had a cart full of stuff. I said you want to go ahead? I gave her the motion to go ahead of me in line because there's no reason she should wait for me to ring all this stuff when she's got one crappy pint of ice cream. That's all she's got and it's melting in her hand. Mm-hmm No, thanks. No, thanks. I can wait Wait a minute. Wait a minute is were you wearing your your Crocs? Because she might have just been afraid of you Do you want me to do this continuous? Come on, just one joke I've never had crocs so

2:06:07 So I said so then I finally get to the part of the line where I'm just about to put my stuff on the thing and I offered her a second time Would you like to go ahead? And right now is the moment, you know You can just jump in front me. They'll ring it up your be out of here No, no, no, no Thanks. Nothing she felt that this has happened any more than once and So I brought it up but think this is seem pretty screwy because I am not the type of person to say no when somebody Thank thank oh, thank you very much Yeah i say thank you and i go in front so it the two theories came out of the table one was that.

2:06:43 Millennials don't like to have any interaction with anybody. And so this is nerve wracking, it's nerve wracking to deal with this kind of situation which is you're in line where you belong and you are not getting... Shut up slave! The other one which was more disturbing I didn't completely buy this one the other was oh well yeah they're deferring because I'm old And they're just being super polite. What the hell does that? Well, first of all you don't look super old so what they're trying to be polite I find that to be less likely Yeah and not buying that I wasn't buying it either but for sure when we were kids We definitely scoffed at old people Hey! Old man You know we'd just yell at them and we were assholes Of course But there was a time in my youth like hey get out of way old man He was very mean

2:07:41 Yeah, so well that does seem like not so much Soviet Union stuff but Leninist perhaps Marxist. Well it's very you know... It's order I'm this is my position i'm gonna stay here and then move up as I'm supposed to when I am supposed to since we're doing find it to be very peculiar We're doing I would like to hear from others out there. This is part of my collection of millennial ISMs Yeah, I would like to hear from others out there who have some similar experiences Because we noticed as we did have this about four or five years ago in the show it first started discussing Millennials and we notice this one phenomenon Is that they they don't know how to deal with a line cutter right? Oh

CHAPTER 40 / 53 Discussion

The 1978 "Pet Explosion" Documentary

The hosts play a clip from a 1978 documentary discussing the "pet explosion" caused by the rise of the birth control pill and dual-income households. The documentary suggests that pets have become substitutes for children and grandchildren in modern family structures. The hosts link this sociological shift to the broader themes of societal subversion.

pets· birth control· sociology· family structure· 1978

2:08:24 Oh no, not at all. So the guy cuts in line they don't say anything they look at each other and they scratch their heads they don't know what to do it takes a boomer or even a Gen X-er to tell the guy hey buddy the line is right there right so along similar lines since we're doing old stuff a documentary from 1978 This is how far back we document the pet explosion. Most people don't know it, but we're in the middle of a pet explosion throughout not only United States but throughout the world and this has brought about from the new pattern that has emerged in the last 10-15 years in the family life I would say that the pill is probably largely more responsible for the pet explosion than any other single factor

2:09:16 This is a quite a surprise to A lot of people that don't understand the business and haven't done any background work But it's very simple The old style was for the husband to earn a living and the mother stayed at home. Today we have a different pattern, today the husband wife both work and they want to prepare themselves with a home and some of things that they'd like to have before they start family. Well this is just fine from a planning standpoint but nature can't be put aside so when the young mother comes home she has to have something to fondle

2:09:54 Something to mother, something to love. She'll have a pet the rest of it in the normal pattern Would be that the grandparents would have children grandchildren To take care of to follow and then to help to rear And this would satisfy their need for love and giving of love and receiving But when this has been set aside for five, six, seven or eight years what do they do? They get a pet. Now we're talking about both sides of the family We're not talking about just one now we have a three-way explosion The three way pet explosion This is not new it's been building for a long time Yeah all part of this similar sociological phenomenon that began yeah

2:10:39 At some point. During the Soviet era! Not that that specifically had something to do with it, but we take television you take the infiltration of the schools You take medical breakthroughs like the pill was very... Of course it was a true revolution Okay, well what else can we talk about this depressing? Well I'll start and this will fold nicely into your Weinstein update. This is an Epstein update Cindy McCain who is the widow of John McCain

2:11:16 was on a panel and this is a clip from almost a week ago but now I get to play it. And here's what she had to say about Epstein. The perception of a lot between young people is that there is an untouchable ring of governmental and economic elites in this country that not only benefit, like she mentioned but actively participate in sex trafficking. Jeffrey Epstein was an example Robert Kraft was arrested not far from here on trafficking charges are these What? We all knew, everybody knew we all knew yet you kept quiet

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Cindy McCain on Jeffrey Epstein and Robert Kraft

Cindy McCain claims "everybody knew" about Jeffrey Epstein's activities and calls him a "chicken shit" for his death. She also incorrectly links New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft to sex trafficking charges. The hosts criticize McCain for her silence while her husband was a sitting senator and for the "meta-disgusting" nature of her comments.

cindy mccain· jeffrey epstein· robert kraft· sex trafficking· john mccain

2:10:39 At some point. During the Soviet era! Not that that specifically had something to do with it, but we take television you take the infiltration of the schools You take medical breakthroughs like the pill was very... Of course it was a true revolution Okay, well what else can we talk about this depressing? Well I'll start and this will fold nicely into your Weinstein update. This is an Epstein update Cindy McCain who is the widow of John McCain

2:11:16 was on a panel and this is a clip from almost a week ago but now I get to play it. And here's what she had to say about Epstein. The perception of a lot between young people is that there is an untouchable ring of governmental and economic elites in this country that not only benefit, like she mentioned but actively participate in sex trafficking. Jeffrey Epstein was an example Robert Kraft was arrested not far from here on trafficking charges are these What? We all knew, everybody knew we all knew yet you kept quiet

2:12:17 I find this abhorrent. Where'd you get this clip by the way? Well, it have to go back and look as i said i had a week ago uh... It's on panel! But this guy is full of shit for one thing he says that Robert Kraft who was the owner of the piglets was arrested on trafficking No, of course he's full of shit He was arrested for soliciting a prostitute Right but that's not trafficking I got it, but who cares? No. I do care because this is another one of those examples where they start to twist the language. Oh sure! What else is new? Suddenly you've solicited a prostitute and now you're involved in sex trafficking somehow

2:13:00 And we all knew about it. No, it's like everything you know we-it hides in plain sight Epstein was hiding in plain sight We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing but we had no one that was no legal aspect that would go after him they were afraid of him The wife of a United States senator Says here, well no one would do anything go after him for whatever reason they were afraid of them Oh Whatever reason they were What do you think Cindy and someone said BS? We're not afraid of you anymore on what you're doing. It's not like wrong it's illegal You know all those things

2:13:42 It's like a house of cards now. It's going to start tumbling, believe me and these guys if they don't leave the country number one they're gonna get caught and not only will they get caught but they're going to be made examples of and that's exactly what we should be doing with these guys especially in my opinion if you know I know there are questions but X is a chicken shit for doing what he did He should have faced the music that one he should have Wow really miss McCain really you're the wife of a sitting US senator and now Epstein's a chicken shit we all knew just that's disgusting

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Harvey Weinstein Trial Testimony Reenactments

Court TV uses actors to reenact graphic testimony from the Harvey Weinstein trial. Witness Jessica Mann describes Weinstein's "dirty" talk, his need for a "fix" like a drug addict, and his physical appearance. The testimony includes disturbing details about Weinstein's anger triggers and alleged physical deformities.

harvey weinstein· court tv· shanley painter· testimony· reenactment

2:14:30 That's disgusting. That's disgusting in a meta sense, that's disgusting what I'm about to play is truly sickeningly disgusted it's disgusting on a visceral level yes so this is the testimony this from Court TV and they what they do is they grab by the way court TV is available on Pluto Oh, good. Yeah just FYI. Court TV it's also online you can get it online but court TV and then you get to see this one of the most... You're gonna see a rising star if she wants to stay with it there's this woman that they have one of the correspondents she goes through the cases and then she reports back They have about three or four really good-looking ladies But this one is just the one you can just see She's going to fuck she got law degree she's this vibrated capo she got all these characters Miss Arkansas

2:15:18 From some year, I think 10 years ago she was Miss Arkansas and her name is... And she's got a fake like stage name already or strippers name one of the two. Shanley. Shanley Painter and you just look at her and go oh my god she's gonna be making lots of money on Fox if they have a clue She's a brunette though. Now, this is what they do on Court TV now is they got the following the Weinstein case very closely and they grabbed by I guess you buy the transcript immediately after the testimonies again from the court recorders and then they reenact the testimony with some actors that do a pretty good job of

2:16:00 Making you think that you're hearing the real testimonies even though this is not it's just audio or do they do they reenact? The whole the audience video. Just oh, that's good. That's cool And so here is the podcast. I flipped, I clipped a few things out of this is about two minutes. I kept a few things because it would have been too long because there's a lot of lot of interruptions and they got to the court to get the judge in their bitching and moaning and but there's stuff in here that is truly disgusting. Describe what was happening to you and what your interaction with him was objection foundation judge overruled He would talk very dirty to me about... Objection. Foundation. Overruled. Fantasies and things, and compare me to other actresses that he said were doing kinky... Objection! Kinky, dirty things with him. Judge can we approach? Overruled no. He always wanted to film me. Objection Did you ever give him permission to do that I never gave him permission Question-and-answer stands next question

2:16:59 What was the relationship? Describe the relationship for the jury. It would be basically him wanting to see me and just needing a fix like a drug addict. Objection! What's going on here? What would he say to you? Alright, first of all holy crap this is...this should be a podcast I don't know what Court TV is doing but this is podcastable material right here This is really good we return And just needing a fix like a drug addict. Objection! What's going on here What would he say to you? What would he do with you, what would you say to him. What would you do with him He would say Do you like my big fat Jewish sh** Objection objection judge may we approach Okay if you would step down there for a moment Judge I'm asking that those answers be stricken and the prosecutor be directed to move on request denied next question

2:17:56 Ms. Mann, can you describe to the jury the defendant's physicality? The first time I saw him fully naked. Objection! Unresponsive. Overruled. I thought... Objection! Overruled. I thought he was deformed and intersex? Objection! He has an extreme scarring that I didn't know if maybe he was a burn victim, but it wouldn't make sense. Objection! Overruled. He does not have testicles and it appears like he has a vagina? Objection! Overruled And does the defendant also have a penis? Objection, leading. He does have a penis. Overruled Did you engage in non-forcible sexual situations with the defendant I engaged in non forcible oral sex with the defendant did you desire him sexually objection she just testified she entered overruled No Why did you continue to have a relationship with him

2:18:53 There is a lot of layers to that question. Okay, next question While you were in this situation with the defendant what were you feeling towards him? I saw him the way I saw my father objection overruled Next question in what way my dad had a similar anger objection overruled move on Did the defendant at times display anger to you objection foundation yes ruled and what way would he In what circumstances would he display anger towards you if he heard the word no it was like a trigger objection ruled? He objection rule also. He also peed on me once objection foundation overruled he would um it was It was like being discarded after I served my purpose objection sustained that thing this is fantastic

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Weinstein's Physical Condition and "Lizard" Theories

The hosts discuss the medical descriptions of Harvey Weinstein's genitalia, comparing them to "hemipenises" found in reptiles. They also mention reports that he suffers from trimethylaminuria, a condition that causes a fecal odor, and has skin covered in blackheads. They jokingly conclude that Weinstein may be a "lizard."

hemipenis· reptile· blackheads· trimethylaminuria· lizard

2:19:52 I do have a follow-up on this though regarding the state of his sexual organs as I by the way Because it's so disgusting you only get a borderline, but you do get that Because it really brings the quality of all clip of the days down to just like gutter level oh yeah So well I knew that when I made because I thought this was a questionable clipped even play on the show and Well here's the part that may blow your mind. So I read through the transcript of the description of his sexual organs, which didn't really come out that well in this particular audio reenactment

2:20:41 But he has it looks like so she said looks like it was intersex and he had no testicles and stuff was inverted. Isn't that kind of what she said? Yeah, this may be a typical case of a hemipenis which is one of a pair of intromittent organs Hepi penises are usually held inverted within the body and are everted for reproduction via erectile tissue, much like that of a normal human penis. They come in a variety of shapes depending on species. In particular intermittent organs of male squamates such as snakes lizards and worm lizards

2:21:25 I think Weinstein's a lizard. Well, that's a possibility. Mimi said that he probably has crypto chism Which is a super people I think or an undescended balls. I'm going with lizard, I'm going with reptile. Lizard's probably better more for our purposes of our show. It feels better to say that. But he also there are two other things that didn't get in that clip because they didn't get the clip and unfortunately couldn't find a clip of the analysis but he also smells like poop Which is a... You really want to be an actor pretty bad. Trimethylaminuria, which is a particular thing that makes you smell like poop all the time It's an actual dysfunction of your body He looks like he smells like poop John just look at the man. He smells like poop and he also apparently his back which is really disgusting I don't even want to bring this up but it will Yeah go! Go! Go! Is just covered with huge blackheads

2:22:27 God, I mean really. Can we get any worse? I don't know how to tran- I gotta transition out. I gotta get about as this. Let's get out! I'm gonna show my soul by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah that'd be fab. Yeah on NO AGENDA And there's a reason why you don't hear this kind of stuff on the M5M. There is no way! Can you imagine the Dairy Council? I think they'd have a problem with this segment. I had a problem with it personally... Well done though

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New England Meetup and Final Producer Credits

The hosts credit various producers and meetups, including a large gathering in New England organized by Sir Ernesto Grande. They acknowledge donors from Texas, California, and Germany, and perform "de-douching" rituals for listeners. The segment concludes with a thank you to all producers for supporting the show's three-hour limit.

new england· plano· sebastopol· charlotte· knighthoods

2:23:03 But Court TV didn't have a problem. Let's thank a few people for show 1213, starting with Eric Arjo in Stockholm Sweden 199 we're going to move him up to associate executive producer. We should Jason Petri 144. He said he missed the toll by twelve equals one forty four donation last week I don't remember that Air Force John 121 20 New England meetup came in with 100. 116 bucks they also sent us a note which I have OK, new England meet up where are you? It's on here somewhere there it is that big note so not big problem.

2:23:47 This is a various cast donations that were and he put it into a mail order and sent it which is the way to go. Here's the first time donation for several of producers in attendance so if they would be so kind to give a general de-dooshing, those in need will greatly appreciate it. They know who they are. You've been de-dooshed! He says it was a great meetup, amazing event. FEMA region foam finger number one baby thank you for your courage and passion keep pushing. And this came from Sir Ernesto Grande KNA of the heavy handed riff and basher of strings Thank You! And thanks to all.

2:24:28 Uh, Jamie Scott $111.11 from Plano Texas Baron Latican a hundred bucks Eduardo Calderon in Plano Texas another day plan to have a meetup a hundred dollars Bob Staley, 8888. Sir Gotton Nathan, Sebastopol California 6969. Sir Loudpipes 5678 in Charlotte North Carolina David Nixon 5510 sir Tom Derry in DeForest Wisconsin comes in routinely Anonymous Chicana 5353

2:25:08 Thank you for the bi-weekly deconstruction. And she wants a de-douching? You've been de-douched! And Travel Karma coming up for ya at the end Michael Barco in Salem, Oregon $52.20 to Eric Hockel in Mulrose Deutschland $52 without the crazy characters Andrew Blackburn in Mount Zion Illinois 5033 Yancy Summer hour. Summer hour, summer hour, summer hour, summer hour to do 33 Brian Mosler or Mosey? Your Mosier owes your W5 BRM I know Brian Bryan's a NAM and no agenda ham. Hey 73s Scott of the tail Iowa corn Davenport Iowa in this case it's the tall Iowa coin you got an INL problem today

2:26:08 Well, they did on this. It looks at the ice from a day I'm about five feet away from the monitor so that might explain some of the issue well Yeah, yeah well i can't get much closer and have a mic in front of me uh Jeremy Cartwright Rockford Illinois 50 The following people are $50 donors Jeremy Cartwright Bradley Ledin Michael Janoski in Lindora, Pennsylvania. Eric Wills in Eldersburg, Maryland Ichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina and last but not least Sir Brett Farrell in OKC. I want to thank all these folks for making 1213 even a possibility. Thank you all and thank you to those under the $50 cutoff for reasons of keeping the show within the three-hour limit more or less

2:27:02 It's highly appreciated. This is your podcast, that's why it's the best one in the universe and you are making it roll forward Thank you all so much And please remember that we do have another show coming up on Thursday to support us for that show go to Dvorak.org Okay We have a couple of let me see emergency f-cancer karma requested by sir Istvan He said it, emergency F-cancer karma. And then Michael Bernstein... I'm not sure if we made good on this. Didn't we do this? I thought we did this one!

2:27:43 Anyway, this is the one we missed. Ah Okay that said it has to be read because he was a $200 donor Yes That's correct mutual win calm mutual wind comm in North Carolina It was fantastically the best podcasting universe talking about a topic close to my heart My father Alan Bernstein hit me in the mouth while we were exploring Zion National Park A few years ago and I would like the two hundred dollars applied to his knighthood quest and the balance of of .007, representing the one English spy not tainted by the Steele dossier from my own journey. I will be meeting mutual wind suppliers in Oslo Norway February 8th and Stockholm Sweden February 14th and have created meetups for both days!

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Scandinavian Meetups and Sir Shible's Knighthood

Michael Bernstein announces meetups in Oslo and Stockholm and requests "Goat Scream Karma" for his tiny home project. The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for Randall Shible, welcoming him to the No Agenda Roundtable. They list the "requisite items" for the roundtable, including "hookers and blow" and "mutton and mead."

oslo· stockholm· zion national park· tiny homes· knighthood

2:27:02 It's highly appreciated. This is your podcast, that's why it's the best one in the universe and you are making it roll forward Thank you all so much And please remember that we do have another show coming up on Thursday to support us for that show go to Dvorak.org Okay We have a couple of let me see emergency f-cancer karma requested by sir Istvan He said it, emergency F-cancer karma. And then Michael Bernstein... I'm not sure if we made good on this. Didn't we do this? I thought we did this one!

2:27:43 Anyway, this is the one we missed. Ah Okay that said it has to be read because he was a $200 donor Yes That's correct mutual win calm mutual wind comm in North Carolina It was fantastically the best podcasting universe talking about a topic close to my heart My father Alan Bernstein hit me in the mouth while we were exploring Zion National Park A few years ago and I would like the two hundred dollars applied to his knighthood quest and the balance of of .007, representing the one English spy not tainted by the Steele dossier from my own journey. I will be meeting mutual wind suppliers in Oslo Norway February 8th and Stockholm Sweden February 14th and have created meetups for both days!

2:28:26 I will be wearing my NOAGENDA Space Force t-shirt looking extremely American for both events. I would love to connect with any of our Scandinavian listeners before my trip for some sightseeing recommendations." His email is michael, M-I-C-K-A-E-L at mutualwin.com, M-U-T-U A-L win dot com He wants a Goat Scream Karma for his tiny home project and we encourage that! They're pretty tiny homes they're modern designs They're not just another kind of crap. They're building in Berkeley Yeah, it looks like you know looks like an outhouse with a window So let me do the karma for them including the FD emergency f cancer karma And we'll throw in a jobs Karma because everybody can use some of that jobs Jobs and jobs Let's vote for John You've got

2:29:22 It's your birthday, birthday On Novocaine 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2! It is the birthday list for February second 2020. Randall Scheibel turns 26 on the fourth that's uh what is that Tuesday? Anonymous 33 today The magic number couldn't get any better than that Sir Woody of The Falls turned 73 today And Ono Priester says happy birthday to his daughter who is celebrating her 22nd birthday on the second day of the second month. Happy Birthday everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!

2:30:06 In our peerage system where you move up a level every single time you reach the $1,000 or more in aggregate Sir Charles of the Tiki Bars is now a Baron and we congratulate him with this title and his upped peerage representation. You can find that at itm.com I am slash peerage for the map. I think it's reasonably up to date and congratulations, sir Charles Then we do have the birthday boy at least on Tuesday Randall Scheibel he will be knighted today So if you can have your blade at the ready sir here you go Thank You very much

2:30:44 Randall Scheibel, step on up here. You didn't have anything special for the round table but I have the regular requisite items i'm sure they'll be to your liking thank you for your support of the no agenda show in the amount of one thousand dollars or more therefore you joined the knights and dames with a Noah Jenna Roundtable it's a very exclusive cub and I I pronounce the K-the Sir Scheibel Knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable for you. We've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Single Malt Scotch, Early Times and BF4 Dr Pepper and a quick handy maybe Rabbit Meat and Goat Milk Fish Pie and Falacio Harlanson Haldol Redheads and Rise Beards & Blunts Vodka Vanilla Gaseous and Sake Rubinette's Women and Rose Egg Ginger Ale and Gerbil Sparkling Cider and Escorts Bong Hits and Bourbon

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Global Meetup Reports from Ontario to Montana

The hosts play audio reports from No Agenda meetups in Sarnia (Ontario), Missoula (Montana), and Charleston (South Carolina). The reports feature families, stock traders, and listeners who discovered the show via 4chan or Ron Paul videos. They highlight the diverse backgrounds of the "No Agenda Nation."

sarnia· missoula· charleston· 4chan· meetups

2:31:26 Mutton and mead, that's always here at the table so you can take that. You could take all of those things with you but make sure you stop off at noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the shill would love to take your information So we can get your ring Your sealing wax and your certificate out as soon as possible Thank you again for supporting your best podcast in the universe It's like a party everybody! That's right. We have couple of meetup reports as we had very busy MeetUp week if you don't know what this is about, this is where people go hang out no triggering everybody has the same No Agenda Nation thinking no agenda thinking in general and really your background does not matter your age doesn't matter people get along just fine. We start with the NO AGENDA

2:32:21 Serena, Ontario meetup in Candinavia. This is producer Adam Nauss at the Sarnia Meet up at the Refined Fool. Thank you for making podcasting great again! This is Trevor Klutt and I'm a douchebag. This is Sir Pat thank you for your courage Herman Nauss really enjoy your program And I am Oma Nas and I'm the oma of most people around this table Hi, it's Ann Nause. Thanks for doing what you do guys! This is soon-to-be Dame Juliet and I am so excited to be at the No Agenda meetup! This is Samuel Nause and I need to listen more... This is the not yet indicted David Nause. This is Eric Nause in the morning. Sounds like they had the whole family for them before the meet up The whole extended family? I love that! The family that Missouri... Is there anybody besides the Nauses there?

2:33:14 I have no idea. Who cares? They're big enough for a meetup, it's fantastic! Like that so much The No Agenda inaugural Meet-Up in Missoula Montana In the morning from Montana We are at the inaugural 406 Meet Up here at Conflux Brewing Club where... It's... in the mornin' Sounds like someone had some George Martin production skills there with left and right channel Then I think this is the last meetup report we have. This is the Charleston, North Carolina Meet up in the morning from the Charles and South Carolina meet-up We are at most cross town that's further in Charleston Jennifer of the possible exit strategy Did not like the night name back

2:34:15 suggested for him but he's gonna introduce himself now. In the morning which I would think is called in the money because i trade stocks and options but thanks to my beautiful wife Baronettus, Jennifer this is Sir Buck of 2112 Daniel here I don't make five dollars a month and that better be good enough This is Mike B now in Charleston, not Odessa. Enjoying life out in the complex and the woods. This is Katie I'd like to say hi to my brother Tim who hit me in the mouth over 10 years ago Hey this is Jason! I'd like to give credit to the person who hit me in the mouth but I don't know who it was It was somebody on a Ron Paul

2:34:58 video comment section. Thank you guys! Hey Adam and John, this is Greg thanks for uh thank you for your courage and boom shakalaka! Hey guys this is the real Greg, Greg B. Thank you and I'd like to thank the left turn that it took on 4chan that brought me No agenda. Cheers! Hey, this is Dame Beth. Thank you for your courage. This is Sir Daniel it's time for me to go home everyone's febrile in the morning have a good one yeah apparently sir daniel human resources were not having any of it they did not like it had to go and it was a course Charleston South Carolina and that was organized by Baronetess Dame Jennifer

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Upcoming International Meetups and Animated No Agenda

The hosts announce upcoming meetups in Ramallah, Jaffa, Toronto, and Seattle. They praise the work of Dame Jennifer for her "Animated No Agenda" videos. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find or start local gatherings, including an upcoming event in Delray Beach, Florida.

ramallah· jaffa· jeddah· seattle· delray beach

2:35:47 the possible exit strategy that is her baronet as name but she also the art director and and sole employee of the Animated no agenda studios. Yeah, it's very good Thank you very much Here's what's coming up just a brief overview on sounds like do good voiceovers I think she can do a lot of things She totally gets media. She'd been in this game. She knows what she's doing And I just appreciate the... really appreciate the animated NOA agenda. It's so good! Thursday we have a meetup in Fairfield, Connecticut. This will be organized by Dame Jamie also at the Ramallah stop this is at 630 in the Palestinian territories They'll beat Barley's in Ramallah Israel Jesse Coy Nelson as our man who was traveling around the Middle East right now And as I was pointed out to me Israelis are not allowed to attend this they are not allowed in Romano That's why he has to do one over in Jeddah He's doing it. He's doing the next one

2:36:49 Jetta which will be Jaffa Jaffa. I'm sorry a Jaffa that'll be on the 9th Shaddaa jet is in Saudi Arabia, right? Jaffa is it's the The shafa bar in Jaffa and that will be next Sunday This Friday though loose top of the South New Zealand piss up That'll beat the spring and fern Tahunaui, your mate Tom organizing. Toronto this Friday no agenda six-week cycle Bishop organizing for you also the Southern Shilinosian meetup I keep getting that wrong Sir Raleigh Hawkins Joseph Hawkins Organizing Seattle no agenda meet up at the Lookout Bar and Grill on Friday and then Saturday Oslo Norway

2:37:37 That is Bernstein, who we just heard. Sir Bernstein will be organizing that. It'd be good if we can get some people to hang out there and as just mentioned the Jaffa stop of the No Agenda Toon Man tour on Sunday 9th go to noagendameetups.com to find out more There's always a meetup happening somewhere someplace on the 21st. The Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach, Florida And if you don't find one start one yourself go to noagendameetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

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2008 Candidate Advisors and the Burisma Connection

A 2008 report from Democracy Now! lists the advisors for then-candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Mitt Romney. The hosts point out that Cofer Black, a former CIA official and Romney advisor, now serves on the board of Burisma. They note the persistence of the same political "backbone" over the last 12 years.

democracy now· amy goodman· cofer black· burisma· mitt romney

2:38:18 And they're getting pretty successful. Sounds like it Do you have anything for I would dying to do a quickie OTG segment, but I've been talking a lot So I'd be happy to hear you speak about something before we do that Well, I got some old clips. They were kind of interesting i thought this was a oh I have another ISO suggestion this one is nailed it. Nailed it! Nailed It! Let me compare to the Bloomberg... I'm Mike Bloomberg and I approve this message No, I think that's bad. I think Mike Bloomberg approving our message is better. I like it

2:39:12 Let's go to 2008, and I thought this was interesting. They don't do this as much anymore. This is Democracy Now! when Amy was a little more on the ball and this was a report on the 2008 presidential candidates. This is at time it was wide open for both parties. And so there were...and what they were doing here was analyzing the advisors and it's the same people In fact, it's kind of disgustingly so. The same people that were advising these candidates back in 2008 as they were getting today at 12 years later and the rundown is quite fascinating to me. Thousands of reporters have also descended on Iowa this week covering everything from Mike Huckabee's haircut to John Edwards rally with singer John Mellencamp but little attention has been paid to perhaps one of the most important aspects of the candidate

2:40:06 their advisors, the men and women who likely form the backbone of the candidate's future cabinet if elected president. Many of the names will be familiar. Advisors to Hillary Rodham Clinton include many former top officials in President Clinton's administration, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former National Security Advisor Samuel Berger, former UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke Senator Barack Obama's list includes President Carter, his national security advisors, a big new Brzezinski. Former counterterrorism czar Richard Clark former Middle East negotiator Dennis Ross Rudolph Giuliani's advisers include Norman Padhara it's one of the fathers of the neoconservative movement John McCain's list of official and formal policy advisors include former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger

2:40:54 General Colin Powell, William Crystal of the Weekly Standard and former CIA Director James Woolsey. One of Mitt Romney's top advisors is Kofra Black, the former CIA official who now serves as vice chair of Blackwater Worldwide. Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter Elizabeth is advising Fred Thompson As for Mike Huckabee it's not clear In December, Huckabee listed former UN ambassador John Bolton as someone with whom he either has quote spoken or will continue to speak. But Bolton then revealed the two had never spoken. Huckabee also named Richard Allen but the former national security advisor also admitted he'd never spoken to Huckabee. Now the name that came up in there was Kofor Black a CIA guy who's kind of in that Hayden Rodriguez cult torturers

2:41:46 and It's interesting because he is on the board of Burisma. Oh yes, the Romney advisor, of course! And somebody pointed out well here is something that's interesting you know Romney this and this is nonsense This guy I've seen interviews with him and if you don't see him He's a very low profile guy does come on shows so it's not like completely out-of-touch But he's not the kind of guy that You know right? I mean probably did Romney a favor to even be on his advisors There's no connection. The Romney connection to Burisma is not true, this guy. He's weak. Yeah very weak. Hey you know what I'm surprised by? That neither of us unless i'm missing it have any clip about Brexit! I mean I watched the final hour countdown they projected the the countdown on the White Cliffs of Dover which

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Brexit Day Anticlimax and the 1975 "Lie"

The UK officially leaves the EU, but the hosts describe the event as anticlimactic since most rules remain in place during an 11-month transition. They play a clip of Brendan O'Neill discussing how the British people were "lied to" in 1975 when the EEC was presented as a purely economic partnership rather than a political union.

brexit· big ben· sky news· sovereignty· eec

2:42:37 Look pretty crappy and then also on 10 Downing Street, and I was like couldn't bring the bells. They want to ring the bells Yeah Big Ben is under construction so they couldn't do that. Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't put some high High-powered speakers up there well they had the bell ringing And then they had big been superimposed on ten downing street So it kind of looked like big ben was was ringing and the end big bit one of the faces who was exposed But it was really, to me it was very anticlimactic because all people were talking about and I watched the final hour on I think Sky through Pluto TV.

2:43:16 It's all about, well what's going to happen tomorrow? And everyone was like nothing exactly the same. Nothing changes now the clock starts 11 months to figure out how to actually Brexit so what happened here is because everyone's getting so fed up with it said okay we'll just sign the paper that we're gonna do it and But here's this little addendum that says all that bitching ammonia we've been doing for three and a half years That's just going to continue for the next 10 months and by December 23rd they have of 2020. They have to have the agreement in place for immigration, for trade and everything. For everything pretty much so this is... Which means they really haven't left? No! They really haven't and they're still paying the fees. In fact it's worse. They still have to pay their dues they still have to run under European Union rule and law except now they don't have anyone representing them

2:44:11 Well, their representation was a fraud anyway. Still is pretty funny I think it just got worse for him. I don't think you see how it got better Well, I don't see that would change. I don't think it changed one way or the other yeah the changes they Celebrating me if there if he went to the soccer stadiums where people's got to see a big image of the flag being taken out of the EU's councils meet with the hallways and they all jumped up for joy. But, the media is not gonna show any of that stuff because as far as they're concerned this is a bad idea! Now I did get one clip which is this guy who kind of runs an online news site but it was very interesting. It was Brendan O'Neill he was also interviewed by The Sun interviewer And he gave a little history of Brexit

2:45:03 Reminds us what the real reason that they did this even happened in the first place and something that is kind of seems to be lost in the shuffle. Is that the Brits really lost their sovereignty in this deal, and it just regained it now? They're kinda flat footed. And I'm reminded of the time that you were living there when we first started doing this show. You were talking about how depressing everything was because everyone was a drunk and...I think a lot of this was all planned, because once you lose your sovereignty and have everybody else telling you what to do, it causes these sorts of problems with society. Do you know what I find absolutely fascinating?

2:45:41 You know what I find absolutely fascinating about that vote, and you hit on the point there is it was the first time we were ever consulted on this since 1975. And all the way back in 1975 voters probably didn't think that the EU would adapt to what is today Can you talk about the kind of lie, as some people would put it that they were sold in 1975 and how the EU continued to adapt continued to centralise power more and more away from those ordinary voters? And how the British people were never consulted. Not even once, not even one treaty had a referendum in Britain. That's right absolutely right you know the EEC was understood to be an economic relationship we were told that it would be beneficial to the UK if we had this economic relationship with this block of countries a fairly small block of countries back then in Europe

2:46:30 and it was understood by most people who then eventually voted in the referendum that came in 1975, it was understood that it was a fairly narrow relationship. It was going to be economically based... ...it wouldn't have a grave impact on Britain as a sovereign nation. That's the lie we were told! And people accepted that and you know for good reason. I don't think people were hoodwinked or brainwashed, they... People weighed things up and said okay if it's just going to be about economic partnership if is just gonna be about trading and so on and economic standards we can live with that let's give it a whirl Of course, what happens then through the 80s and right through to the early 90's and onwards from then it becomes a European Union. It becomes much more political body. It becomes a body that has very significant say over laws that we live by over the ability of us to control our borders over the free movement people, the free movement goods, the free movement services across continent or across European Union

2:47:31 So it becomes much more powerful, becomes much more political. It becomes much clearer that this is a body that significantly has a detrimental impact on our sovereign rights. It's going to be very interesting to see how this goes I mean once again Nexit has been rekindled, Frexit is on deck you know this is uh let's just talk of course just talk But now we have to see how it actually works and unfortunately, it's just going to be at least another year until we figure out what is really going to happen. And in the meantime I think its gonna be pretty bad for the UK. It seems like you're kind of a lame duck position. You can't do anything

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Google Classroom Outage and BC Fiber Optic Failure

A Google Classroom outage disrupts schools across the U.S., highlighting the risks of relying on cloud-based education tools. In British Columbia, a severed fiber optic line causes a "cash emergency" as ATMs and payment systems fail. The hosts use these events to advocate for an "Off The Grid" (OTG) lifestyle and emergency preparedness.

google classroom· chromebooks· fiber optic· british columbia· otg

2:48:19 And unfortunately, what everyone wanted was not to hear about Brexit anymore. Now they're going to hear about it continuously It's not gonna stop We'll see That's true OT, keep going OT I'm an OTG kinda guy. OTG kind of guy off the grid! OTG going OTG Not really without power! I'm an OTG kinda guy Step away from the tracking, step away from commercialism that is pretty much gonna ruin your life and a good example was a week ago this is so great one of our producers gave us a login to Google Classroom

2:49:06 And apparently a lot of schools have adopted this. For a long time Apple had, you know was putting Macs into schools and then the Chromebook came out and Google just, you know carpet bombed K1 through 12 and included. But of course, if you want the Chromebooks then you have to use Google Classroom to manage and track your students. Did you ever log into that John? No I didn't. Okay it's not so great because of course there are no students in our classroom but the system speaks for itself. And Google Docs including Google Classroom went down last week for several hours

2:49:47 And people didn't know what to do. I mean, the classes had to stop! They had to stop teaching because they couldn't do anything. They could not log in and look at assignments or even look at the curriculum, I guess... People were trying to do term papers... Here's a hint for you! Stop that! Just use notepad for all I care anything you rely on this You're gonna get burned and this is just once it's going to be it's gonna happen more and more and more Which brings us to a note from Mike producer Mike, which is similar Situation which is another thing that we warn against cash emergency in most of BC happening. Yeah No There's a huge flood going on there's a fiber Canada

2:50:37 fiber optic line has been severed due to a washout of the rail line near spasm of all places. We have people there, we have spasmers! Might be global warming or it could be winter weather in Canada. How about Russia? Russia, Putin. Fiber optic line parallels rail lines in most of Canada. Pandemonium ensues as people have no money and no access to cash happily and no agenda producers always prepared thanks boys! See I love hearing that I love that

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Amazon Ring Privacy Concerns and EFF Investigation

An Amazon engineer calls for the Ring doorbell system to be shut down due to unfixable privacy issues. An investigation by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) reveals the Ring app is packed with third-party trackers that send personally identifiable information to marketing companies. The hosts warn against putting "Alexa" devices in sensitive areas like children's bedrooms.

amazon ring· eff· trackers· privacy· maria bartiromo

2:51:14 That's right your ATM the ATMs don't work. That's right You got no cash becomes a little difficult in a certain point you're gonna be hungry Amazon engineer coins don't work This story came out desperate to talk to talk about this one Although it's only part of the story about The ring doorbell Amazon engineer calling for winged to be shut down immediately He says citing privacy concerns the engineer published a post on medium saying quote The privacy issues are not fixable with regulation and there is no balance that can be struck. Ring should be shut down immediately." Now, by the way I found this report interesting as why pulled this one from the original Money Honey Maria Bartiromo This is on Fox Business News This was not a post on Medium It was a comment in...on a whole different post it was very short just you know like 1 paragraph saying exactly what she recited but

2:52:07 But she kind of makes it out to sound like it's a, now it should be because it is a big deal. But it was interesting that she pulled this out I don't know if that was a stock manipulation thing or kinda you know hyping up a little bit for the market who loves to hear news about Amazon but factually it was not a post on Amazon on Medium It was an anonymous comment and not brought back This is of course the company that you could, somebody rings your doorbell and you can deal with it from your phone but it has opened a can of worms on privacy. Where is this video going? Are they giving the ring video to everybody who shows up at your door to local police and others? I mean there's a few private

2:52:51 privacy issues here and there's a lot of complicated issues here. I mean one of the issue, we've seen people taking hackers getting access to peoples accounts and part of that is the person themselves has to be responsible use a difficult password don't make it easy to guess but you're right we have to know what are they do they have deals with law enforcement? What are they going to do if If law enforcement requests that. And we've seen those issues already with phones, so there's some precedent for what they might do. But if somebody shows up at your door and that person is questionable from the local police standpoint then how does that implicate you? It just opens the door to all these questions about who shows up in your doorstep. Yeah yeah blah blah blah blah shutup!

2:53:36 What is more egregious about the Ring doorbell system as reported and of course this was This didn't get any traction because of impeachment and orange man bad everything The electronic frontier foundation who got a lot of money from Google to stay alive, but I do like what they do in general They did an investigation of the app that comes with the Ring Doorbell which you manage your entire system and guess what? It's packed with, I'm reading from their report. Packed with third-party trackers sending out a plethora of customers personally identifiable information for main analytics and marketing companies were discovered to be receiving information such as names private IP addresses mobile network carriers persistent identifier sensor data on the devices and by the way you're paying customer and they're still selling your ass to other third party marketers

2:54:37 And as the EFF correctly points out, the danger in sending even small bits of information is that analytics and tracking companies are able to combine these bits together to form a unique picture of the user's device and their life. Turn that stuff off! It's despicable that Amazon... you pay for this stuff it's just like Skype if I look at Skype right now I pay for Skype I get an ad at the bottom of Skype now And I pay for the service. And the problem is there's so many a lot of these applications, you know like we were listening to the Amazon show and tell the You know that Alexa show Intel where can identify the product. These are very these are fantastic Developments I wish I could use them I loved having the ability to use voice To have things turn on and off and it's handy in for many things but because of the business model You've rendered it useless for people who have a brain

2:55:39 It's too bad, because a lot of this stuff is really cool technology and I like it. But no you cannot use it because of this and this is...I mean if people actually knew what Amazon was doing they'd probably think twice. And putting these things in your kid's bedroom! Anyway live the OTG lifestyle everybody give your kids a Megaphone or something if you need some you don't need a doge o TG. It's a berry og otg exactly That's all I got for that and for the segment for now, okay main things just need to get those out Otherwise they pass by and no one talks about it And then we're oh yeah No actually I do have an unhoused clip very proud of what's going on in Austin You'll recall that

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Austin's "Camp Abbott" and the RAT Transition Town

Governor Greg Abbott repurposes a state-owned lot in Austin for the "unhoused" population, which residents have named "Camp RAT" (Responsible Adult Transition town). The camp features its own leadership committee, web designers, and security. The hosts praise the initiative for allowing the homeless to build their own self-governing community.

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2:56:26 The governor of Texas, Abbott got into a Twitter war. A tweet up with the mayor of Austin... What's his name again? Anyway, Adler. About the unhoused because I'm not gonna say they're all poor homeless people They're grifters many of them that you know aggressive window washer squeegee dudes It's not just people who don't have a house or a home in fact Abbott repurposed a lot not far from we are in Southeast Austin Now I'm gonna go again and try and find it. I couldn't find at the first time

2:57:05 which would be for the unhoused to go and that it's something magical has happened. They've started to build a little community! This once mostly empty lot in East Austin has become home to more than 100 people without another place to go We give everybody chance we don't judge you by your past history or anything like that Yeah, but it's once referred to as Camp Abbott because the governor opened the state-owned land to the homeless population People here are now calling it something else called camp rat responsible adult transition town for the homeless run by Like every town, Camp Ratt now has its own list of leaders. Well we have donation and volunteer recruiters We have maintenance and general labor recruiters We have the web designer, we have the media outreach

2:57:56 security and then we have a treasured donation organization. Corey Roberts, the secretary schedules town meetings each week the seven-person committee nominated by those at the camp has held two of those so far it's important because we actually have a voice we actually have a hand that we are actually putting forth to actually make our lives a little bit better changing the perception of the homeless community is important to those living at the camp Because we wanted to show people that we're not just criminals, drug addicts, slobs, bums off the street. That anybody else in this community is just without a house." Right now the committee is focused on finding food donations so they don't always have to rely on provided MRE's Providing hot showers instead of the makeshift stalls and water hose they are currently using

2:58:44 events to help out others in the greater Austin community and maybe most importantly giving newcomers a point of contact so they don't feel alone. Don't be afraid to come out here if you have nowhere live, we want the laws leave you alone for being under a bridge come on here it's safe there's not really any violence out here where all big family town I really like this development. I'm going to go over there, and bring food." This shows that it can work when you allow people to be a part of the community and build the community give them some basic blocks which is literally all they got

2:59:22 And there is some protection. I think they do have police making sure that things don't get out of hand, but they're creating their own community and it... you know? I think this is great! This how favelas got started in Brazil. Oh no, I'm not saying we won't have that but at least it's a community and they're trying to do something else other than, you know, tens of millions of dollars being spent on bullcrap that does nothing I was excited. Let's just give the tens of millions of dollars in direct payments to these guys and that would probably help possibly but That is not everybody in that group 5,000 bucks each see what that's not how it works Reparations he said reparations for being homeless

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Show Outro and "Wuhan Flu" Closing Mix

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, reminding listeners that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. The show concludes with a "Kung Fu" inspired musical mix featuring clips about the Wuhan outbreak and Chinese government transparency. The hosts announce their return for the next episode on Thursday.

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3:00:14 Alright, sorry affiliates if you were waiting we're way over but time flies when you having fun and talking about Harvey's privates Coming up next on no agenda stream calm random thoughts about the Bezos hack stay tuned for that. No agenda extreme comm and I have a lot of kung-fu mixes End of show. We need to thank Ned Jeffrey, Johnny Benson and Dustin Jones And we return on Thursday with another thrilling edition of the No Agenda Show The best podcast in universe Until then everybody remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA In the morning I am Adam Curry

3:00:59 And from northern Silicon Valley where there seems to be a windstorm kicking up, the San Francisco Bay is totally brown and it's blowing everything around. And the seagulls are flying over the house I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda Remember Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself Adios mofos! ...and such I got Wuhan flu From the fish market I was visiting And now i'm stuck here Well, I feel like I'm burning up, I'm coming up alone I'm having trouble with breathing Now I think things are failing on me This is yoga Yeah yeah

3:02:07 Oh yeah! Don't trust China! China is asshole! China? China is here. People are dying. I'm not scared at all. China would have solved the issue here! China?! Wuhan... Somebody from China? Wuhan outbreak caused by animal virus. Wuhan... This is a city now and not then. China, Wuhan. China all the time. Vampire Pat! Wuhan. Wuhan. Tastes like chickens What does that mean? Huh, China is here I don't even know what the hell that means. I saw Michelle I bought 10 boxes of L Didn't help me much and now i'm totally screwed Oh no, I got the wolf flu I blew I know I am supposed to do

3:03:20 I gave it to you Now we all got the woo-ha blue The best podcast in the universe! mofo.dvorak.org slash n a I'm Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message