Episode 1137 · Sunday, 12 May 2019

Contempt Kabuki

Political theater reaches a fever pitch as congressional contempt charges collide with allegations of FBI stings and the rise of digital currency defiance.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 50m listen | 44 chapters
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About this episode

Representative Louie Gohmert accused high-ranking FBI and DOJ officials of orchestrating a coup against President Trump through the abuse of FISA warrants. The House Judiciary Committee testimony highlights a growing rift over the legitimacy of federal investigations, while lawyer Victoria Toensing detailed an alleged $10,000 cash sting operation targeting George Papadopoulos in a Mediterranean hotel room.

Democratic candidate Andrew Yang appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight to pitch a Value-Added Tax aimed at capturing revenue from Amazon and Netflix to fund a Freedom Dividend. Meanwhile, Senator Elizabeth Warren proposed breaking up tech giants as Bitcoin prices surged past $7,000, prompting Congressman Brad Sherman to call for a ban on cryptocurrency to protect US dollar hegemony. In international trade, manufacturing shifts from China to Vietnam as companies attempt to circumvent tariffs, while activists from Code Pink occupied the Venezuelan embassy in Washington D.C. to block supporters of Juan Guaidó.

Former Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards faced criticism for the apparent media erasure of presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard during a Democracy Now appearance. The program also explored the chemistry of hexane extraction in cooking oils and the environmental risks of a 25,000-barrel reformate spill in the Houston shipping channel. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the theatrical nature of political subpoenas as the ultimate form of contempt kabuki.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Audio Technical Issues, Hearing Aids and Headphone Feedback

The hosts open the program by addressing technical difficulties regarding audio monitoring and hearing aid interference. One host explains the challenge of wearing headphones over hearing aids, which causes feedback or a slight Bluetooth delay. To mitigate these issues for the audience, the volume has been adjusted, though it limits the host's ability to hear the live broadcast clearly.

hearing aids· bluetooth· headphones· audio feedback· mixing system

00:00 Pay a buck to get a dime back. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora And Sunday May 12th 2019 this is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1137 This is no agenda Dimmed by double digit dog biscuits and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin Texas capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I heard 12 2019 that maybe it's just me I'm John C. DeVora Now what's this about 12 2019? What? It sounds like you said. What did I say May 12 2020 19 You should sound like 12 2019. I didn't say Sunday. Look out here's the problem. I can't even hear myself today But huh

00:52 Yeah, I've got so many complaints about the feedback from my headphones to the microphone which is because i can't wear my hearing aids with the headphones. That doesn't work at all! Just putting the audio directly into the hearing aids delivers an ever-so slight delay which is too annoying because it has to go through bluetooth and all kinds of other crap. Oh that's interesting Yeah, it's doable but it's slight and I still like the weight of- Yeah you like immediate. And I like the weight of cans on my head y'know?

01:29 But, um... I do. So either had to choose between keeping it at 11 because the output of the mixing system goes into a separate headphone amp just to jack it up loud enough for my deafness but then I'd have to tape the headphones to my head with masking tape so nothing could leak. So I just decided to turn it down. So I don't know what I said honestly Okay, yeah, but hopefully there'll be less feedback and that will annoy people less I Never heard it what? We're just gonna keep this going you never heard what the feedback. Oh, it's constant It's gotten much worse since I've really been using the hearing aids a lot And then when I take them out and they put the headphones on like well What what can't hear so but just a number of people have noticed that so thank you Thank you. Thank you

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Mother's Day Greetings, Newsletter Promotion and Listener Support

The hosts offer Mother's Day greetings to the audience and discuss a lower-than-expected response to the recent newsletter promotion. They speculate that listeners may be spending their discretionary funds on gifts for their mothers rather than supporting the show. A comparison is made between the longevity of a podcast shout-out and the temporary nature of flowers.

mother's day· newsletter· flowers· donations· producers

02:29 So we'll see how we do. Yeah, it's true! We'll find out soon enough... Well let's see, we start off with a you know I've already... It's Mothers Day. Happy Mothers Day to you and everybody's family out there! Yeah, yeah happy Mothers day all the moms that's right we got a poor response for the newsletter in the mother's day promotion well someone said one of our producers sent in a note and said it's obvious why this happens because unlike you who have no moms and think that everyone else hates their mom for some reason People are sending their money to their moms as gifts instead of to the show. I saw that note and I believe that could be it! I think it's possible people are doing that, although I don't know what could be better than a shout out on best podcast in the universe for mom? Okay flowers are nice too but you know this will be around in some form long after we're all gone. Flowers die. As far as I'm reliably informed

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Eurovision Song Contest, Palestinian Boycott and US Media Coverage

The upcoming Eurovision Song Contest in Israel is discussed, including calls for a boycott by Palestinian activists and various artists. The hosts clarify that Eurovision is a media brand rather than a strictly European Union event, noting Israel's previous victory. They critique the lack of US coverage, the history of BBC commentator Terry Wogan, and the campy nature of the broadcast on the Logo channel.

eurovision· israel· palestine· boycott· logo tv· terry wogan

03:29 So, uh... Yes. Happy Mother's Day! We do have some people who want to thank their mom so we'll be doing that in our donation segments but you know one of the highlights of my television year that I always look forward to watching is the European Song Contest The Eurovision Song Contest i should say It seems like every year you talk about this thing. Because I'm always excited about it, like the songs and how all these countries compete has nothing to do with Europe it's Eurovision so you know Israel won last year So this year... Woah woah woah woah! Woah woah woah woah! Woah woah woah! Israel is not in Europe? It's the Euro-VISION We do this every year too You say so yeah It's Eurovision has nothing to do with EU or Europe

04:17 Oh, okay. It's like one hour cleaners guy goes in... Exactly! He doesn't say it back in an hour he says, I was going to take two days. Yeah that is just the name of the place. One-hour cleaner is just a name. Just a name. Exactly Eurovision. Israel won last year you'll remember was kind of funky they tend to have some funky acts and they swept everything. And so now the contest, which I think is... The final is next week this weekend we have semi-finals all very exciting but the Palestinians are now calling for a boycott of course

04:54 You fight over your hummus all the time and now we got to fight over songs in the Eurovision Song Contest. This will not stand? The Palestinians calling for a boycott, that's going to close it! I don't know if it'll close it but there is a lot of sympathy with the Palestinian plight which I discovered there is no country named Palestine No And once you start looking into it, there was a good documentary I saw. I was interested in the two-state solution You know the two state solution that was the original idea Set forth by I think it was still League of Nations That was that was the resolution this will be a to stay at place and never played out kind of

05:43 So here we go. Then we have the artists calling for a boycott. Do you ever wonder why some, I mean like PBS for example, who believe they're in Europe but they never play this whole event in the US at all? Nobody cares? You know there is one channel that carries it and the thing about the Eurovision Song Contest certainly in the Netherlands, but above all in the United Kingdom. Who I don't think they've won since Brotherhood of Man did Kisses for Me which is when I was eight or nine. They'd have unfortunately passed away but Sir Terry Wogan who was a famous BBC Radio 2 presenter

06:27 Yeah, he would do the voiceover and he would just sit there probably a little bit inebriated if not sloshed drunk and Just make fun of everybody because the Brits always knew they'd never ever get in the final. They never win And so now in the US it be worth watching well It was and now when the u.s we have what is the name of the channel that? Univision. No, it's not univision It's something you have to I think a limo no no it said it's another real long I'm sure on the Pluto TV line up Now it'll be on its Something with a T but they get two gay guys to sit there and comment and everything which is perfect You know can't be campy gay guys like what Cooper and Anderson Cooper in?

07:15 What's his face Andy Cohen and Andy Cohen always tried to do on New Year's Eve? On CNN only these guys pull it off the court TV. I Think it's logo that's what its logo Logo broadcasts it Man Iceland has a wall and like heavy metal kind of grunge crazy ass with all frightening video clip It's not your syrupy... All you need to do is just put Katy Perry on the judges podium and then you'll have it made. ABC will carry it. Yeah, but see now this is the beauty of the Eurovision Song Contest is there's a each country has its own professional judges and they vote and they're not allowed to vote on their own country but then you have that the text vote

08:06 And you see all the politics coming into play. Adjacent countries who will vote for each other, if they don't like that country then everyone hates Russia so they don't vote for them except for the countries that do love Russia So it's just a wonderful evening Apparently Logo stopped doing it. So much for your theory. Damnit It is ridiculous I think when you mentioned Terry Wogan Rant ragging on it. I think that watch that you and I could do this actually We could do we get right as much as anybody but we could do a good job I think it would be fun to have you just being like what is this? What country who wears this country I can see Well, see if anyone is caring in the next year's will be a big event This is our exit strategy

09:05 Hey, I'm all for it. Let me see if we... hey how about this? Let me see if we can get a feed that everyone will be watching and then- A legal feed! And then yeah and then we'll just pop on our stream and uh and we'll just provide commentary you can sit on the couch while you do it No wait we got to do it on video It has to be video Can't we just provide it oh now I see what you're saying Yeah it has to be synced with the video but we don't have to be on camera No, no. I was thinking more like the space science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front. You know silhouettes of our heads

09:48 And maybe a third head. I think that's complicating an already well thought out format just do the voiceover you don't need to do anything else it was what how did Wogan do it? He'd just voice over he was just in the background, never on camera. Yeah we'll have the video feed and then uh you and I will just rag on it. Complicate it later wait a minute wait a minute yes I think this is uh...I think this is it this weekend that's the wedding weekend! And?! Well so- Oh yeah cancel the wedding!! Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together. Yeah, maybe not. Maybe not. Alright well I've determined there is no news in America Oh I got plenty of tips Really? Let me guess Bar bar music drum ba daaah Does it go something like that yeah the news you caught

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Representative Louie Gohmert, FISA Court Abuse and Coup Allegations

Representative Louie Gohmert addresses the House Judiciary Committee, alleging that high-ranking officials at the FBI and DOJ abused their power to manufacture a case against President Trump. Gohmert characterizes the investigation as an attempted coup involving fraudulent FISA warrants. The hosts debate the technical definition of a "coup," noting the lack of military involvement or violence in this instance.

louie gohmert· fisa court· fbi· doj· peter strzok· coup

10:44 I didn't understand a word you said when you did that. I'll try it again, bye-bye Mueller Trumbo! No no I only have one actually from that whole thing okay even though I promised clips I got nothing I got the one there this is kind of interesting probably clip this okay We're gonna flip it, we'll play that then. It's a goldmark on the coup uh on the Nadler committee Oh he calls it a coup? Yeah Nice And now this committee majority is on the wrong side of a very important historic time. We've never had The intelligence community The FBI People at the top of the DOJ Abusing their powers

11:30 to create a case against a president where there was none. Where assets were actually used to try and set up members of the Trump campaign when there was no case, to try and create a case we oughta be all over that We ought to be demanding answers from the FISA judge or judges who were either A content to have fraud committed against their courts, or were complicit. Maybe it was Peter Strzok's buddy that he bragged about in his text that was going to be the FISA judge that signed warrants where there was no probable cause of anything

12:22 This was an attempted coup and history is bringing that into focus more and more clearly. Yeah, this is a very dumb idea to call this a coup. No! Because it's not... the definition of a coup involves the military even in attempted coup The textbook definition involves military I don't think it does Oh okay do we need to... Yes! Okay Let's take a look. I can of course be wrong because after all, i'm just a VJ No, your course could be wrong cause you're deaf What? It literally is like that a bit Okay let's see Book Of Knowledge what do we have here? Coup Sudden violent and illegal seizure of power from government So it needs to be sudden violent There was no military mentioned True But there has to be violence

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

General John Kelly, White House Staffing and Trump Family Influence

Former White House Chief of Staff General John Kelly speaks with Bloomberg about his tenure and the challenges of managing the President's family members in government roles. Kelly describes the family as an influence that "has to be dealt with" while praising Melania Trump. The hosts criticize Kelly for speaking publicly about his former employer and question the effectiveness of his staffing strategy.

john kelly· bloomberg· reince priebus· white house· melania trump

13:22 So there was no... Soft coup. Look up soft coup, the non-violent version. Well I think the coup is still ongoing if you want to take it in my literal sense with the military Bloomberg did an interview with General Kelly I have no idea why he feels he should be talking at all, but okay. And especially the guy that used to be chief of staff? Yeah! Bloomberg you know... What's he doing talking?! What kind of guys are they what kind of people do we have running in the middle this is what happens when you don't have like a major war and all it kind of lousy players move to the top So this happened in World War II where you had all these boneheads running everything like the head of the Navy and second nav sec, and the rest of them were all let... ship after ship was being knocked out on the East Coast by German U-boats. And I don't know what it is just an accident

14:11 It was just ridiculous to watch these incompetence run things until they finally got thrown out so you'd win the damn thing. I thought Cantley was revered within the armed services, that could be a mistake. Well let me sure am sure is what he says and he wasn't indeed chief of staff. If he's revered he shouldn't be out yakking away about his experience as boss while still in office. Worse! Seems irresponsible. Worse i think he's propagating a coup by talking about what needs to happen with the president's family. The team we became as a White House staff built on what Reince Priebus, my predecessor and great guy, built on what he was trying to do and for that 18 months we staffed the President very effectively Was it complicated to have the president's family in government at the time?

14:59 They're an influence that has to be dealt with. I don't know how that sounded to you, so i'm listening to this clip... And he actually says he's going to qualify that which I thought oh wait a minute are you gonna backpedal on this but no! It has to be dealt with And today, if you were... I don't mean by no means Mrs. Trump First lady's a wonderful person Yeah, you need a first lady. I thought that was just that was pretty revealing gotta be dealt with I mean if Trump could trust these guys like Rance Priebus who was the leaker You need but great guy according to Kelly okay? Guys they're all really should not be out as I said there's no news about although I did I did pick up an interesting clip from a podcast

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

George Papadopoulos, $10,000 Cash Sting and Victoria Toensing

Lawyer Victoria Toensing appears on Sebastian Gorka's podcast to describe an alleged FBI sting operation targeting George Papadopoulos in Greece and Israel. According to the account, an operative attempted to leave $10,000 in cash in Papadopoulos's hotel room to trigger a failure-to-declare violation upon his return to the US. Papadopoulos reportedly avoided the trap by leaving the money with a lawyer in Greece.

george papadopoulos· victoria toensing· joe degenova· fbi· greece· israel

16:12 This is, oh yeah this is a... remember Sebastian Gorka? Remember that guy? Yeah, he's still around. He does a podcast! I thought he was gone because some...I guess he got...I remember he left the administration and... That conflict of interest. Was it conflict? Is that why he left? I think there was some conflict. It was his turn and they were raking him over the coals for being...and yeah, of course obviously he is a white supremacist, Nazi quadroon obviously we all know this anyone who hangs out with Trump has gotta be a Nazi And so he has a podcast and he had, I think it's Victoria Toonsing. Quite sure what she does and my favorite DeGenova Joe Degenova who you know has all this great stuff. Seems to have taken on kind of a turn for the best on this show He has! Which is why I want to say this is funny because at least six months ago I had a bunch of DeGenova stuff A lot of it is... Yeah, I didn't like it and I didn't like it at the time I'm sure

17:13 Or not? No, I actually cut most of it. I didn't use a lot of it because he's too long-winded but he's really great when it comes to coming up with crazy ideas that are never going to come to fruition about what's gonna happen Well this is an interesting one because again it's about Papadopoulos and how they were trying to set Papadopoulos up And as you and I both know, having traveled internationally there's a limitation on how much cash you can take into the country or bring into the country which is $10,000. Unless you declare it that's okay but it's a huge pain to declare it and why do you need more than 10 grand in cash to travel anyway?

17:55 But they tried to use this on Papadopoulos. Remember, this is kind of the dumbish guy who has the hot Italian lawyer wife who stuck with him through all of this spy-slut business. So I don't know about their relationship, but they seem pretty good together and I guess she helped him out of a potentially nasty situation! You have an incredible story Victoria about how this man... Oh I wish I was Sebastian Gorka. I could just talk like this. John you have an incredible... He's made for it as a pretentious podcaster. Yes he is the voice that has been made for podcasting

18:34 Yes, um do tell me Sebastian. Can you ask the question? You have an incredible story Victoria about how this man I do like that bottom end he's got a Victoria He's got it. He's got something going on. He's got some processing and you have an incredible story Victoria about how this man who was targeted by our intelligence communities they try to sting, right? What happened to George Papadopoulos. After he was put on the Trump campaign as a foreign policy advisor unpaid I mean very informal you only met the president one time at a meeting with a bunch of people He was vacationing with his then fiance in Greece and this guy comes and tries starts knocking at his door basically to say hey i really want to deal with you now very important and so well you just come to Israel

19:24 Is this is this isn't Camille Paglia? No, no. It's a Victoria Toonsing Oh, she's got the same cadence I'm going with milieu just to point it out Okay This is the milieu of the lesbian libertarian Well let's take a look at her But the thing that Paglia does constantly besides having that exact same clipped speech She says stuff like blah la la you know in the middle Yeah Oh well hold on, no wonder Victoria Ann Toonsing is a lawyer and partner with her husband Joe DeGeneva. It's the husband and wife team here! I didn't know that. Let me see where she comes from. But she still could be a lesbian. Yeah could be if that was your... That's a lesbian libertarian

20:18 milieu. You might be in the milieu, but you don't have to be a lesbian. Right right right okay well let's continue. He comes and starts knocking at his door basically to say hey I really want to deal with you now very important... And so will just come Israel and talk to me about making a deal? Why can't he talk now? Well now go to Israel! The guy takes him to his hotel room and there on the bed is $10,000 in cash in a suitcase So I'll make it short. Papadopoulos' wife is very smart and says don't do it, leave it here they left in Greece with his lawyer he flew back to Dulles and the second he landed

20:58 The FBI surrounded him and started searching everything that he had. And in fact, they already had his baggage from the plane. He couldn't believe it was a complete set up because she didn't have there was no 10th. There was no $10,000 but they knew that he hadn't declared it when he entered the United States so we got him now put the thumb screws on squeal and one FBI agent said to him this is what happens when you work for Donald Trump nice Nice. I believe that's true. That was a smart move, by the way it'd be like 10 grand cheap ass. Where is the hookers? 100 grand and where are the hookers man don't you know how this works it's inflation to write some dumb report

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Eric Holder Contempt of Congress, Media Double Standards

The hosts revisit the 2012 contempt of Congress vote against former Attorney General Eric Holder regarding the Fast and Furious gun-running scandal. They play a montage of mainstream media clips from that era to highlight perceived hypocrisy in how the media currently covers subpoenas against the Trump administration. The discussion frames the political conflict as "contempt kabuki" and partisan theater.

eric holder· fast and furious· contempt of congress· barack obama· fox news

21:50 So that's the only kind of interesting news in the any collusion files that I've found. What i did find rather fun is, I have a little flashback... Do you remember Eric Holder? Do we remember who he was? You nuts? Of course we do. He's the Fast and Furious guy who was called up for contempt of Congress." Yes, he was held in contempt! That's correct Eric Holder was the Attorney General held in contempt I think it took a while before they actually voted on holding him in contempt of Congress. It didn't make much difference because the local DA at the time who has to if there is going to be any

22:27 any real legal action. He was a staunch Obama supporter and he wasn't going to go anywhere with it. Yeah, there was a couple other things besides the gun running which is known as fast and furious that was arresting journalists spying on journalists we have such short memories then the M5M even shorter doesn't seem to recall that but I do have a couple of sound bites little compilage if you will of the mainstream back when we were talking about contempt of Congress, of an Attorney General. Except this was... The Obama Attorney General. Given what we know about the Republican Party and the way the House of Representatives conducts itself when run by Republicans and with a Democrat in the White House, it shouldn't really count as news when a house committee finds the Democratic attorney general in contempt of Congress Every single Republican voted to hold the attorney general in contempt over this crazy conspiracy theory Tell the Republicans just stop this witch hunt now

23:25 He's right. Why go ahead with a contempt vote? Look, there are certain internal documents that are not Congress' business. It just looks like more of our broken politics and vicious fights now out in the open A party in the Congress that does just about nothing to create jobs or help people without jobs decided the best way to do their job is to shower the Obama administration with subpoenas See if you're a person who watches Fox News all day it is possible that you have been marinating in this conspiracy theory for long enough now, that this seems feasible. Is this sort of stop and frisk at the highest level? Go after the Attorney General get him to empty his pockets it looks like stop and frisk doesn't it let me finish with my personal views of the stop-and-frisk thing I don't mean to use this term too much but it's almost like a stop and frisk For a lot of people this is Republican versus Democrat and they say this is just theater It amounts to nothing! It is a distraction...it is politics

24:17 I like contempt kabuki. I like, yeah. I like a contempt Kabuki too there was something else in there that I liked it was uh... Well of course my point obviously is people this is the same shit just different team its wrestling Yeah WWE without the cool suits and the guy with the guys

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

PBS NewsHour, David Brooks and Mark Shields on Checks and Balances

A clip from PBS NewsHour features analysts David Brooks and Mark Shields discussing the breakdown of the American system of checks and balances. They address the proliferation of subpoenas for the President's family and the Attorney General. The hosts mock the predictable agreement between the two analysts and the somber tone of the reporting.

pbs newshour· david brooks· mark shields· subpoenas· checks and balances

25:00 You got Go-Mert instead of a guy talking like this. Yeah, Go-Mert. Beto could be one of the Mexican terror twins. No way that's... I'm confusing them. Sure, I don't know much about wrestling. It's exactly the same. Exactly the same stuff, now it's just the other parties yelling the same... Fox News is now saying what these guys were saying although Fox News man somethings very odd with them They are going off message! They're going to lose their audience doing this by the way. The whole reason for being is to present a concise, it's like watching Shields and Brooks. Yeah yeah I mean Shields and Brooks they're supposed to be you know supposed to give us two sides of an argument no no they're both in total agreement and that who wants to watch them i mean? I do have a good fact-I got a good example this is summary of the latest

25:54 Shields, Brooks and Shields summary on PBS. On top of subpoenas for the president's son, subpoenas for the attorney general. What do we make of all this? Well I mean I think it's House Banking Committee across-the-board and now led by... I just think Judy that in Iran, Venezuela. The system wasn't intended for this." You know it's the complete breakdown of the checks and balances system I smell Dvorak's razor blade in this clip. That's the way he goes! No? He talks like that?! No... I don't believe it

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Andrew Yang, Value-Added Tax Proposal and Tucker Carlson

Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang appears on Tucker Carlson Tonight to advocate for a Value-Added Tax (VAT) to capture revenue from tech giants like Amazon and Netflix. Yang argues that a VAT is harder to game than corporate income tax and could fund a "Freedom Dividend." The hosts criticize the proposal as a regressive tax on consumers, drawing on their personal experiences living under VAT systems in Europe.

andrew yang· tucker carlson· vat· amazon· taxes· universal basic income

26:42 I have a different example of Fox News just, go-I don't know. This is specifically Tucker Carlson and i think he may... I don't know, he's compromised but not in the way you would think He had Andrew Yang on Now Andrew Yang is..we're focusing on him because we get complaints that no one focuses on We love no money. I mean, I'm surprised he gets as much airtime as he does where a guy with no money well we love his PowerPoint idea the state of the union on PowerPoint and that's that's just slogan for this year power point power point He is the man who on Joe Rogan was talking about the universal basic income being the way to go And now he has a new gambit which he rolled out on Tucker Carlson. I was

27:32 Well, it wasn't surprising to hear this from a Democratic primary candidate. It was surprising to hear Tucker Carlson all in on these this idea I have standing in this particular area having lived in multiple countries with this particular situation And I thought it was interesting that Fox again is moving away from their core message. I don't know if a lot of people in America understand what this is really about or what it really means, but the way its presented is...I'm curious at best. Yeah and Amazon's the most egregious example where they're now soaking up 20 billion dollars in business and causing 30% of American malls and stores to close and taxpayers are seeing zero in return So if you look at what other advanced economies have done they've figured this out

28:17 They've said, look we need to have a mechanism in place so that Amazon's gonna pay its fair share along with Netflix and Delta and these other companies that are paying zero in taxes. So what they've done is they- Can you guess? Government regulate, you know no Amazon. No no it's better well in a way Yeah Actually yes in a way have adopted the value-added tax where then? Stay with it tiny slice of every Amazon sale every Google search and on and on And it's very very hard for companies like Amazon to game their way out of but actually gonna roll that back for second because he literally says here

28:54 Yeah, let's see. ...dealt in these other companies that are paying zero in taxes so what they've done is they've adopted a value-added tax where then the American people would get a tiny slice of every Amazon sale... No! This is... What a scam idea! This is a lot! This is a scam! Well I'm gonna play the whole clip but the value added tax he's saying oh The American people will get a piece of that yeah after you pay all of it So here's this brilliant idea. Let me see, I'm going to pay this value added tax and i'll get 10% of it back in services that sounds like a great deal! Yeah no but to get a dime back Google search and on and on and it's very very hard for companies like Amazon to gain their way out of a value-added tax system so why don't we have that? Oh it's a great question because people...

29:48 Just listen to it for a second. We could stop at every 10 seconds companies like Amazon to gain their way out of a value-added tax system So why don't we have that? It's a great question. I mean people have been advocating for it for quite some time and my campaign is Advocating and championing it right now because we need to wise up to the fact that companies like Amazon are very smart And moving their earnings through places like Ireland where the American taxpayer will see none of it whereas a value-added tax will make it impossible For them to sell to us without paying into our society, their fair share

30:24 as if they're going to be paying that fair share. This is so great the way he's explaining it and Tucker buys it! So why are you the only candidate who's thinking through what to do about this? Yeah, well we already answered that question It gets kind of weird I think it's weird again all you have to do is look around the world and say other countries other advanced economies have figured this out where the only advanced economy that does not have a value-added tax in place. And we need to make sure that the American people are actually seeing some of the gains from the incredible innovation and value that companies like Amazon, and Salesforce, and Netflix all whom paid zero in taxes last year are getting away with really. They're doing their job which is pay as little in taxes as possible. We have to do our job which is to make it so the American people see our fair share So does that I mean just argue on the other side for a second would that increase

31:18 Presumably it would increase the cost to American consumers of goods, right? Yes. Well in some instances... In some cases the companies will find cost efficiencies or eat part of it And that's one reason why my campaign wants to take that money we're getting from the value added tax and turn it to the American people in a form of dividend because that is the most direct way that we can actually have the American people benefit. The fear is even if we do end up increasing the tax rate on some of these companies, the American people won't benefit from that. Certainly the most interesting person running for president and I thought sounds like a great idea to me. I appreciate it's great idea There you go, great idea. Let's enlighten mr. Carlson about The value-added tax which I lived under in the Netherlands and Belgium And as the United Kingdom at the tag the value added tax in the Netherlands when I was there I think it still is either 20 or 21 percent

32:15 And you pay for that. You have to pay that much off the top of everything you buy. Yes, and it's an added tax so its not built in... Yeah get the word added in there thats what the thing is, Tucker sort of said well its another words more taxes. Yes! And you consumer, you pay for it and heres the problem with a value-added tax If you add that, if you start down that road it'll be okay everybody great idea 5% value-added tax and somehow just like the carbon tax in Candinavia it'll come back to you magically. Alright so we're paying that and you know what happens in two years? Hey everybody! We got a little shortfall here we need to up that value added tax just a bit don't worry it's really the company is paying for it Don't you worry about it It's all good

33:04 Bad ideas 10% times 15. I'm amazed funny. I'm amazed how he can back this There's clearly a right-wing all right now to me that Tucker doesn't travel that much He probably doesn't I don't know. Now, when i think about it, I don't know that he's ever talked about any other country. He may go down to Cancun and that's about it. Listen we grew up watching this guy and he was wearing a bow tie so you know right? You don't travel anywhere if you wear one of those unless you're a professor or visiting scholar somewhere. I'm the publisher. Yes! I put him at the same level as my uh... Christopher Buckley

33:46 My ex-cousin in law, whatever he was. Mmhmm He's that kind of guy Yeah he'd wear a... Oh that internet Adam! Who is going to want to read the newspaper on the computer screen? Yes no one I.. Okay i have an AOL address but thats all im doing Im just keeping it at that Christopher Buckley Douche So that is the media landscape. It's changing rapidly where we have a guy like Yang promoting this and it's, hey this sounds like a great idea! That sounds... again it's like soccer Now I do want to point out, I've had down in my notes, I want to make a prediction Do you still have a Red Book? We haven't looked at the Red Book for a long time

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Women's Soccer Popularity, US National Team and VAT Refunds

The hosts predict that women's soccer will become a major television draw in the United States, noting the success of the US women's national team. They share an anecdote about how Europeans perceive soccer as a women's sport in America. The segment transitions into a discussion about the logistics of claiming VAT refunds at European airports when traveling as a tourist.

soccer· women's football· world cup· vat refund· croatia

34:31 I gave up on it because I realized that I can't read my own writing. People keep track of these so you can predict what you want. Okay, I believe that football let's just call it instead of soccer football is going to be extremely big on US television but only will be women's football There's something about this that, especially our team the United States team who are all cute. There is something about this that is going places That's my prediction I think we'll see... When I was in Croatia A few years back We were talking about this and Croatians said well you know we understand that football Is very popular in the United States but only amongst women

35:25 And women, there's only women teams. Men don't play it." Isn't that... When they said that I could have corrected them and said no you're absolutely right men do not play soccer as we call it yeah that's only played by women and that's just the way it is in our country it sits for women only now We have a really good team though don't we? Yeah all world champs! Yeah, we have great women soccer players. Well I want to promote them! I think we should...I'm looking at the list of by the way just to back up a little bit look in the list of value-added tax and remembering it starts always starts off like at five or ten percent right now in Hungary its 27% Jeez I thought they harmonized that? The EU everyone had to have 20? No no they're all different really Norway is 25%.

36:11 25% I remember back when i had money in an airplane it's like yeah, i want new avionics they said okay well It's gonna be i was like 8000 euros or something like wow that's a lot of money but okay whoa whoa whoa but there's 21 percent value-added tax like what? he just threw on 2000 2 000 euros just for no it may drive you nuts. I'm looking at these other numbers 25% for the Fargo Islands. This is crazy. I'd like to have our NOAA gender logo on the team uniform. That would be cool. We can make it happen, I mean there's... When you're traveling people should know this when you're traveling if you get your receipts where everything you buy that's over a few bucks and take it to the airport. You evaluate a tax back. Stand in line and get your money back

37:09 Yes, which is not always convenient. No it's not always convened and the people who are sitting there also They're mean especially with the people in France I think I bought a pair of glasses in France because I broke my glasses got new pair And I want to went to retrieve the VAT and they just look at this mean and rude, but you you wouldn't France Yeah, yeah, I know Who would have thunk? It's crazy Okay, so now Yang is off my list of anyone even worthwhile. Anytime anyone brings up the value-added tax and especially when they throw the bull crap at you like he did which is just all advanced economies use the value added tax. Yeah! The smart ones have it.

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Joe Biden Campaign, Plagiarism Scandals and Same-Sex Marriage

A media montage reviews Joe Biden's long political history, including his failed 1988 presidential bid and his 2008 primary performance. The hosts recall how Biden's "bumbling" interview style forced the Obama administration's hand on same-sex marriage policy in 2012. They debate whether Biden's public persona is genuine or a calculated political tactic.

joe biden· 1988 election· plagiarism· same-sex marriage· barack obama

37:57 Yeah, because the... Mind you that VAT also gets tacked on to medical costs, medical procedures. Oh yeah! It's added. It's value-added. Where is the value? I like this value added tax. It really should be just called an added tax. Yes, The Dummy Tax So here's a thing I picked up from one of the networks, just kind of a rundown. They really do want Biden to run they think he can win and so here is the classic rundown, a Biden rundown at what is going on with Biden. And who is this from? Which outlet? You know, I forgot to write it down but there goes the zipper! It's one of the... Oh an extra card today!

38:48 one of the networks. From the minute Joe Biden sets foot onto the campaign trail, he is the person to beat The question is whether one of these 19 other candidates emerges as his chief adversary or whether his biggest obstacle will be Joe Biden himself. The Taoiseach knows a lot about it His mom lived in Long Island for 10 years or so God rest her soul and although she's, wait your mom still alive. God bless her soul! He is now the front runner because he is a household name They put one foot in front of the other they keep going

39:29 That's the unbreakable spirit of the people of America. And also he brings a much broader set of policy experiences to the table than really any other candidate I believe we have so botched this policy, So botched the opportunities To move on The Sandinista government The SNL scandal We need not tell anyone is the biggest white collar ripoff in this nation's history. Judge, if I look only at what you've said and written as used to happen in the past, I would have to vote no." For all the respect that he is given as the elder statesman... If you look back at Joe Biden's previous races his 1988 bid flamed out in the middle of a plagiarism scandal In 2008, he won exactly 4% of the vote in the Iowa caucuses

40:27 There is a lack of message discipline. I remember in the 2008 campaign after the Obama team put him on the ticket at a fundraiser late in the campaign he went so far as to apocalypticly almost predict there would be a major international crisis. This was one of those moments tailor-made for Saturday Night Live parody. Mark my words, if you take away nothing else from what I say here today or indeed in this entire campaign remember this If Barack Obama is elected we will have a crisis!

41:15 Yeah, I'll give Joe Biden credit for one thing. He dragged Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into a same-sex marriage. Do you remember that? No Yes it was...Obama was going to come out and announce the policy on maybe a Monday or Tuesday and then on some interview But it was a problem because he was basically the guy that on an interview, I think it was with Robin from Good Morning America. And he said oh no I think same sex marriage should be okay and he just went all in on it which we didn't...and this was shocking at the time! No one had heard of what? This is from The White House?!

41:59 And then Obama and Hillary, they immediately had to kind of jump on and say oh yes yes we've changed our views on this. That was Joe Biden who dragged them into that by basically jumping into the announcement which he wasn't even supposed to do in the first place Yeah, he does a lot of that. I consider that bumbling. Well he plays it off as bumbling. I think he's a lot smarter than we might give him credit for in that regard. Well it's a possibility but Gates the guy who was used to be in the CIA and whatever and he was into various staffs of the Obama administration wrote this book if you recall pretty much about the Obama administration said everything Biden did was just...everything he did was wrong

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Media Strategy and Campaign Momentum

Beto O'Rourke plans to increase his national media presence with appearances on MSNBC and ABC to regain campaign momentum. The hosts critique O'Rourke's speaking style, comparing it to an imitation of Barack Obama, and suggest he has struggled to find a clear message. They note his recent small-scale events in Iowa as he attempts to find his "rhythm."

beto o'rourke· rachel maddow· the view· msnbc· iowa

42:47 Well, the only reason why he's being pegged up on top right now is because he's got the money. You know when you raise $700,000 in one night then the news media is like hey Joe! Hey how ya doing? Let's do another interview so you can buy some ads It's their money they see that as their money Who's got the money Biden's great it's our money let's go get that money and then they going you know Monday no wait Monday Yes, Monday night watch what happens with... man are you okay? I'm having a lozenge. Okay. Humberto is going to reintroduce himself and reading from the Associated Press O'Rourke plans to step up his national media appearances after skipping most of that kind of exposure in recent months he is scheduled to appear on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow show on Monday night an ABC's The View the next day

43:42 O'Rourke acknowledges he struggled to find his presidential campaign footing. Sounds like you struggled to find a good booker I think in part, I was just trying to keep up when i first started out He said after addressing about 40 people at a recent house party in Newton Iowa I really feel like I found my rhythm and my pace! I just feel comfortable! I feel like this is what I'm supposed to be doing It's my calling This where I belong I'm Beto So we'll see Well it lost so much momentum man And when you hear him He's dumb. Just dumb! Well he also has the...he tries to sound like Obama with that pacing and his waving his arms, it sounds like he is doing an Obama But you know all you hear him say is we've got to do comprehensive this reform that

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Elizabeth Warren, Tech Giant Breakups and Student Debt

Senator Elizabeth Warren's proposal to break up major technology companies like Facebook, Google, and Amazon is examined. The hosts argue that Warren is targeting the wrong issues and that her focus on student loan forgiveness is a more effective political tool for younger voters. They express skepticism about the government's understanding of internet protocols and the feasibility of "breaking up" digital networks.

elizabeth warren· facebook· google· amazon· student loans· antitrust

44:30 impeach the president. At least Yang is saying, oh we're gonna do a value-added tax, oh go to universal basic income he's not saying always no he's at least he's saying something Elizabeth Warren still the favorite amongst graduating class who just got one back here done with four years in Arkansas liking what Elizabeth Warren has to say feels somewhat cheated scammed by the system and everyone's talking about Liz hey you know what We don't care about anything, just take this debt off of my books. She's got a real shot with that. She's got a real shot! The problem is she has stuff like this, dude... She has too much... She's creating problems for herself with... Play my Warren clip. His op-ed comes just weeks after Massachusetts Senator and 2020 hopeful Elizabeth Warren unveiled a plan to break up tech giants including Facebook Google and Amazon Oh yeah, she has no focus. This is...she's an idiot

45:30 She has no focus. She had something going with these kids who are all of voting age, they probably won't vote and these were the Beto voters who didn't really come out in Texas for sure. Too much work! Yeah but if you got $30 or 40 thousand dollars in student loan debt I think i can go to the poll and vote for you, Liz. Yeah maybe but I got Facebook No no I disagree these kids are also moving away from Facebook they're moving away from social media now they have you know they actually have to do- They're getting dogs My dog won't let me go The idea of breaking up the tech giants besides being scatterbrained is like wait a minute These are the guys who've got all the money

46:21 And you're gonna, so you're going to turn on... You're gonna bust up Amazon. Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. Hello? Hello? Knock knock! Well I'm against all of this. I'm against all these breakup ideas because I see the internet as a network that anyone can access and anyone can use Whatever, you know freely available protocols there are to distribute your information. I don't think necessarily Facebook and Twitter and Instagram are the internet That's what people believe but it's not true. It's not it's nice just not true So let these guys wallow in their own shit that's fine. I don't need to use them

47:05 But anyone who participates in this, uh... In this breakup conversation is giving him too much credence and doesn't know what the internet is. It's like you're looking at the America online version of the Internet That's what- You're talking Elizabeth Warren and all these other people? Yeah They don't even know how to turn on a computer Well I think that's pretty sure they could do that Oh, right, I dunno Hey Bill can you turn on my computer? I don't know how to do it I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. It's that round button? There are a lot of different things that are problematic for people in government, they... For instance have you been tracking Bitcoin

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Bitcoin Price Surge, Congressman Brad Sherman and US Dollar Hegemony

As Bitcoin's price surpasses $7,000, Congressman Brad Sherman calls for a bill to outlaw cryptocurrency purchases by Americans. Sherman argues that Bitcoin's primary purpose is to disempower the United States by making international sanctions and the New York Fed's clearing system irrelevant. The hosts agree with Sherman's assessment of Bitcoin's disruptive potential but view it as a positive form of competition for the dollar.

bitcoin· brad sherman· cryptocurrency· swift· sanctions· federal reserve

47:48 No, I don't follow Bitcoin that closely. Well going back to November last year the prices dropped from around $6300 down to a low of just above 3000. Right and now if you look today I can look right now, but last I checked it was over 7000. And if you've ever looked at a stock chart it looks like the longest bear trap I've ever seen in my life and that's actually down a bit now so 68. But it was up to almost 7400 which is higher than it was when the drop happened and this is causing concern for a lot of people

48:35 Certainly in government. This is Congressman Sherman and he has only one way to go for this I look for colleagues to join with me in introducing a bill to outlaw cryptocurrency purchases by Americans so that we nip this in the bud, in part because... I love to nip it in the bud. Hello? 10 years of... Hey! There's something to this Bitcoin shit We should nip that in the buddy Let me write up a bill for y'all In part because an awful lot of our international power comes from the fact that the dollar is the standard unit

49:21 of international finance and transactions clearing through the New York Fed is critical for major oil and other... I'm just gonna interrupt him then, I'll play that bit again. What he's saying is true although it may sound very unbelievable to most when you transact money I think even if you go from let's say the Netherlands to Germany I believe it still eventually goes through the swift clearing system. Or they may be using the full European system, but the swift American banking system has fought very long and hard to make sure all money transactions go through our system, through the Fed's system—all of them! Certainly when we're talking about dollar purchases... But you know this guy is really just laying it out as to why this is a problem because of what interests we have

50:16 And I think it greatly explains... Sounds like a problem to me. To me, it sounds like this is exactly why Bitcoin needs to exist of international finance and transactions. Clearing through the New York Fed is critical for major oil and other transactions, and it is the announced purpose of the supporters of cryptocurrency to take that power away from us, to put us in a position where the most significant sanctions we have on Iran, for example would become irrelevant. So whether it's to disempower our foreign policy

50:52 our tax collection enforcement or our traditional law enforcement, the purposes of cryptocurrency. The advantage it has over sovereign currency is solely to aid in the disempowerment of the United States and the rule of law." Oh yeah there you go. Yeah I think he's right! Bitcoin is anti-American. Yeah true. I'm all for it I have to say. I think it's great. We deserve a little competition on our dollar." Yeah, we're going to get it from the Chinese. Yeah yeah we certainly are well that how are the Chinese now do you guys and you can track that over DH Unplugged they got their increased tax tariff or as import tariffs? It's impossible really tracking because they lie The Chinese? Well what are they lying about? They lie about their numbers... You don't know what else is going on with them

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China Trade War, Vietnam Manufacturing and Shipping Scams

The hosts discuss the impact of US tariffs on Chinese goods and the subsequent shift of manufacturing to Vietnam. They share personal observations of furniture and art orders now arriving with "Made in Vietnam" labels. A listener tip suggests that while manufacturing is moving to Vietnam, some companies are using Malaysia as a "P.O. Box" to circumvent trade restrictions and shipping costs.

china· vietnam· tariffs· manufacturing· fedex· west elm

51:51 Someone sent me this, you know for all you can say about him Trump has been extremely consistent throughout the years prior to his presidency with the same talking points going back to Oprah show in the late 80s early 90s. And here he is addressing a crowd in 2011. Was he running somewhere around that time? He was just making noise about Obama, wasn't he? 2011? About the certificate... Well, he was running in the year 2000 Right but not 2011. He was just making noise. He's always always running. He is always promoting his show and running it So here he is addressing a crowd specifically about taxing China and how to tax China and how to present it I see what China is doing. And I'll give you a little China story also

52:39 China, I said the other day very very hard to buy anything outside of China. Oh certain other countries also but China's you know the one and I said so we say well wow what can you do? So easy! I drop a 25% tax on China And, you know I said to somebody that is really the messenger. The messenger is important! I could have one man say we're gonna tax you 25% and I can say another listen you motherfuckers we're going to tax you 25%. Hmm...I guess he chose for the second way of doing it. They're responding poorly I understand. The Chinese? Yeah

53:33 They don't like it. Yeah, they don't like to be intimidated But you know what I'm when I'm reading everywhere is okay fine You know that you order this stuff and it gets shipped from Vietnam They're just they're just kind of using Vietnam as a PO box now well haven't heard this yes I've read it everywhere have you gotten anything for Vietnam? I have also received This is what tipped me off to it used to buy art from both China and Vietnam mm-hmm and different shops that did all kinds of custom. It was just fabulous artists in those areas, especially Vietnam they got a lot of... it's very artsy if you go to visit the country, you'll go holy mackerel! And I noticed the one thing I noticed most was that FedEx

54:24 and whoever else it was had some deal. So, it was pretty much everything coming out of China was free shipping or it was a dollar and I would always be fuddled by this because the same products out of Vietnam would cost like $30 in shipping minimum and it seemed to me that how is China doing this deal with FedEx? or whoever it was, UPS all of them. They were all giving China this huge deal or the Chinese were eating the price I don't know what was going on but i thought there's some moment of corruption. Well we ordered when we moved in a chair from West Elm and we've ordered from them before and as with pretty much all furniture uh... it comes from china

55:14 But this time because we've ordered from them in the past this time it showed up huge box Large print made in Vietnam don't think it's China. It is made of Vietnam now It doesn't say made in China on the chair itself, but I'm pretty con and then I started looking into it and I'm seeing They're either doing subsidiary deals with factories, but basically using Vietnam as a P o box No, I don't think so. I think it was made in Vietnam Okay Could be I'm just saying we used to get from the same company. It will be shipped from China The Chinese have been notorious for like moving their manu it's funny the Taiwanese moved their manufacturing to China that China gets Chinese got swamped in this but known fact that they've been outsourcing Chinese China has been outsourced to Vietnam and India okay well, that makes sense then

56:03 And so I would say this, the product will be better. Yes! It probably will. Yeah they know what they're doing over there yeah. The Vietnamese products are outstanding quality. Yes it's a very interesting country that like 98 their literacy rate in Vietnam is higher than we have it's like 98.5% of the country's literate huh? It's very interesting place okay onward Yeah, I don't know if that's doing anything but it's not gonna probably...I don't know what we're gonna do about China. What we've been doing is cut them off at the pass, thwart them everywhere we can and mess up countries where they want to have a foothold for their belt-and-road strategy and screw Venezuela in the process

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Venezuela Embassy Protests, Code Pink and Activist Arrests

Activists from Code Pink and other organizations occupy the Venezuelan embassy in Washington D.C. to prevent a takeover by supporters of Juan Guaidó. Democracy Now reports on the arrest of Vietnam veteran Jerry Condon during the standoff. The hosts discuss the ideological motivations of the protesters and the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding the police response.

venezuela· code pink· juan guaido· nicolas maduro· embassy· washington dc

56:58 Which brings me to Venezuela, I'm sorry. I have a China as well as well it go with Venezuela yes, I do I have Three things from Venezuela this is from NPR I have one. Let's play yours first, what do you got? Well mine is about the local protests. You know Code Pink and all the rest of them, Democracy Now! and everybody else they're all pro Maduro for some reason...I don't know what. And code pink has even protested Obama a lot They protest everything. Everybody, yeah But they love Maduro so they're protesting... I think you can hire them for anything so just high as bitter isn't it?

57:44 Guaido people in and move the real Venezuelans out, if you want to call them real Venezuelans as if Guaido isn't. But let's play protests and weirdness at the Venezuelan embassy democracy now." In Washington D.C., authorities cut off water and electricity to Venezuela's embassy as activists with Code Pink and other organizations continue around-the-clock occupation in order to prevent a takeover of the building by Venezuela's U.S.-backed opposition. The activists entered the embassy in late April at the invitation of Venezuela's government. Opposition groups led by Juan Guaido and backed by the Trump administration have pledged to take over the building. So far, police and Secret Service agents have arrested nine activists, including Jerry Condon, a 72-year-old Vietnam War veteran, and the president of Veterans for Peace who was violently tackled and pressed to the pavement Wednesday by five officers after he tried to bring food to protesters occupying the embassy.

58:40 Phan Doan was left bleeding from the head and needed medical treatment. He's been charged with throwing a missile, resisting arrest and assaulting police officers as he attempted to get food inside the building." Hmm... Did that report on mainstream? No! Well of course not I just this just in from one of our lawyers within The Value for Value Network I have been advised, and i can confirm that this is the real deal. I've been advised by clients who buy from China as follows... The manufacturers are moving to Vietnam from China but the P.O box scam is being perpetrated in Malaysia so that's how they're rolling. Okay. Malaysia! So look for some problems in Malaysia what can we stir up in Malaysia?

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Undersecretary Tom Shannon, NPR Interview on Venezuela Strategy

Undersecretary of State Tom Shannon appears on NPR to discuss the failure of various "tools" used by the US to flip the Venezuelan military against Nicolás Maduro. Shannon details strategies involving humanitarian aid confrontations and oil sanctions. He also explains the US effort to pressure China and Russia to withdraw their support for the Maduro regime to maintain regional stability.

tom shannon· npr· venezuela· military coup· russia· china

59:25 Because that's what it seems to be we just want to thwart the Chinese. This is undersecretary of state Tom Shannon on NPR and this first clip is about the failed coup I'm sorry flipping in Venezuela how do the tools available to the United States who will compared to the vulnerabilities? Up to this point, the tools have not been sufficient. Really beginning on January 23rd when Juan Guaido declared the presidency vacant and declared himself the president under the Constitution, the hope at that time was that would be sufficient to flip the military. It did not work.

1:00:03 Then, the opposition working with the United States and other countries decided that focusing on humanitarian assistance and creating a confrontation at the border between Colombia and Venezuela over the delivery of humanitarian assistance would create a rebellion within the armed forces. That did not work. Then the administration decided that sanctioning the state-run oil company, PDVSA and effectively sending a clear signal to the armed forces that revenues would be cut off and their access to the Venezuelan gravy train would end, would convince the military to flip. That did not work. There's also been an effort to focus on individual members or former members of the military, some of them have been sanctioned and just the other day Vice President Pence said that U.S would aim to lift sanctions on an individual former intelligence chief I believe who switched sides is that working at all? Well we'll have to wait and see uh... The purpose obviously is to send a signal that those members of the armed forces choose to work with the opposition if they are under sanctions will have those sanctions lifted

1:01:07 And those who might be facing sanctions would not face them if they chose to work with the opposition. We're going to have to wait and see how that's received. What just amazes me is to listen to this guy cavalierly speak with an NPR host who easily could have been lamenting the Russians meddling in our elections, but listen to this! What tools do you have? Well this tool didn't work and that tool didn't work. What are you doing well I'm trying to jack Venezuela obviously Oh, how about Russia and China the Russians have provided significant sales of weapons to the Venezuelan government Along with purchasing large quantities of oil and gas and inserting themselves into Venezuela's oil and gas industry And then the Chinese of course also

1:01:53 have deep interests in the oil and gas sector. Is there any way to pry those foreign actors away from the Venezuelan government, Maduro's government? NPR your national public radio is participating in this. National Public Radical! Yeah we're strategizing how we can fuck the Chinese. We're gonna have to wait and see I personally believe that calling these governments out especially the Chinese and the Russians was not The Chinese, in particular have been looking to play a very low-key role in this political dispute and are more interested in their long term energy interests.

1:02:30 And therefore, it's important for the United States to make very clear to the Chinese that the long-term future of their relationships in South America are going to depend on China's willingness to help Venezuela find political accommodation that gets it through this period of crisis. Do you mean to say would have been more intelligent to quietly approach the Chinese and reassure them that their energy interests will be maintained no matter who is running Venezuela? Yes but also to make clear that countries who have China as a number one trading partner, like Brazil, like Argentina, like Chile, like Peru want to maintain that relationship. But in order to do so the Chinese need to understand that by financing the Maduro government they are actually creating problems inside of South America especially with outflow of refugees from Venezuela that are seriously affecting stability of countries like Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Chile and Brazil.

1:03:23 There you go. That's what we're doing, that's your... You don't need to know anything else we are all over it Who is that guy? That is the Undersecretary of State Tom Shannon As Shannon speaketh too much methinketh He's just way out there, oh yeah no problem, eh, getting some other tools I thought that was a.. Yeah I agree with you What is this, what is the point of this This is not like disinformation or some sort of misleading, or anything. You go on NPR and just explain the strategies to a teeth? That must be the way the State Department is being run these days! Now the techno experts that we've discussed who have targeted us when we talk about Venezuela—we're not doing it right, I'm talking about them right—

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Turning Point USA, AOC Video and Conservative Propaganda

A viral video produced by Turning Point USA features young Venezuelans lecturing Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on the failures of socialism. The hosts analyze the video's talking points, noting they mirror common conservative tropes regarding Starbucks and MacBooks. They identify the production as "propagandistic crap" and question the authenticity of the messaging.

turning point usa· alexandria ocasio-cortez· candace owens· charlie kirk· socialism

1:04:15 I'm starting to see some patterns here as there's some young Venezuelan kids, and I say kids in the 20-24-, 25 year old range who put together a video specifically meant for Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. who, as we know is all in on Maduro's regime and the socialist country of Venezuela. At least that's the way it's portrayed in the M5M And then this video appears I'm going to play a little bit of it first you get the idea Let me tell you something Alexandria Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez I want to tell you something El socialismo no funciona

1:05:04 My name is Jose, I'm 21 years old. I am Samuel Machado, I'm 22 years old. I fled real socialism Me and my family fled real socialism Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez You're a liar! You are a liar you don't know what you talking about? You're clueless! You have never gone through socialism so you preach it like you do America will never be a socialist country. American will never be a socialist country A lot of people think socialism it's all about equality and free stuff what socialism is really about its starvation, people dying from lack of medicine Alexander Ocasio-Cortez I want to... Now just notice that the lack of medicine all the talking points are here Who produces this? The Birch Society? No

1:05:51 This is why I was interested in sharing this. It goes on for about three minutes, just 30 more seconds to hear some of the other points you've heard in this type of campaign. It's really about it's starvation people dying from lack of medicine Alexander Ocasio-Cortez I want to tell you something If you really believe in socialism, why are you here in the US? Why don't you move to Venezuela or Cuba Russia Afghanistan China. Why didn't you just go there? You know... You talk about socialism as it is something so perfect But you know It's not Oh no actually! You'd really truly believe that he works like that but He doesn't Just go and look at the actual facts and not just a books Isn't it good

1:06:34 to have your life going every day to Starbucks tweeting how much you hate capitalism from your MacBook? That's great, right?" Okay. So when I hear these things like isn't it great drinking your Starbucks and tweeting how much you hate capitalism on your MacBook... I'm like okay these are talking points i've heard them before and they sound a lot with that medicine thing in Maduro sounds a lot like the emails we received this is produced and distributed By Turning Point USA, home of Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk. These are the propagandists! And now I'm starting to think maybe it was their outfit that sent us emails Who would know about podcasts? Who would stay on top of that? I was giving the US State Department too much credit, I think So these may be the actors How does this fit in with what I thought Turning Point USA was

1:07:30 I don't know. I never heard of them well, you know Candace Owens oh yeah Yeah, no she's with the blags it that I like and the so on I'd like them this I like what she does I like what she does for Prager University But what is this? These guys are to turning point USA This is this is propagandistic crap and I can't take them very seriously after hearing this What do we know about this? It's just like those horrible Democrat, the celebrity ones where the celebrities... Just as bad. Yeah yeah I think we have to change the color of blue to green. Yes stuff like that. Black and white you know. Stuff like that. There is some black and white too probably Well i'm going to look into a little deeper into turning point and see if uh..I know Charlie Kirkus and I thought he's

1:08:25 I don't know. I thought they were kind of a good outfit, but this just uh... Propaganda crap. Yes yes! Very sour and with that i would like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the C in Chai Com John C In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning I'll ship his sea boots on the ground and feed him the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there! And you can get in there, you can do all kinds of stuff. You could troll... ...you could troll some more and then just troll or you could also be helpful sometimes that does happen. No! What? Are you okay? Why would anybody want to be helpful?! Oh no that would be a bad idea. And in the morning too.... Let me see

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Show Artwork Analysis, Spy Slut and Alfred E. Neuman

The hosts review the artwork for episode 1136, titled "Spy Slut," created by Darren O'Neill. They discuss the internal rules for selecting show titles and art, ensuring they do not overlap in subject matter. The segment includes a critique of various submitted pieces, including a depiction of Pete Buttigieg as Alfred E. Neuman, and the importance of the "opening giblet" in show promotion.

darren o'neill· spy slut· alfred e. neuman· pete buttigieg· album art

1:09:21 I believe it was, yes. Darren O'Neill who brought us the artwork for episode 1136, 1136 episodes that episode was titled Spy Slut which is a CIA term we learned on the show and Darren O'Neal oh yes he brought us uh the A fine example of what you don't like at a Whole Foods checkout line. Someone with face tattoos, blown out ear lobes and I think in this case both Darren and we kind of went for the cheapest laugh is that what we would classify this as?

1:10:07 Well, now that you mention it. It is kind of going for the cheap lap. Now that you started this analysis... Nose ring mustache yeah You saw in this piece of art. This art okay there was a bunch of stuff that was actually it was all borderline I mean they're the kinda funniest sickest one was The Black Royal which was the cave bear. Extremely racist, the racists? Yes. Racist piece. I liked the mental health one the most, but it was like more of an evergreen and really have much to do with anything. Uh, the cat with the, um, with the phone is funny but not pertinent to the show. The thing wasn't we actually looked over these. The only thing that was pertinent to the show

1:11:01 Was the mustachioed character. Yeah, so that's what that's really the reason we picked it and Someone else made an email comment to us that The artwork is really just part of a package of three elements of promotion And I want to bring that up because it does work in concert We have the album art we have the show title and we have the opening blurb at the beginning of the show and Each one of those three elements is important in promoting each new a new episode personally I think it's like titles. Yes, and we have made a rule just not arbitrary your rule It's your rule you can't crossover Yeah You can't have the the artwork be the same or have the same topic as the title and opening

1:11:55 giblet can't be related to the other two either. I don't know why we came up with it, why I put this in place but i like it makes us... Well once it became established because at some point think we did have a couple of contrary well let's call it dis-ah that what the artworks is doing uh once it became established we just kind of said okay well this is what we're gonna do. We could do it! It's not like it's impossible People really want to hear that conversation. I should record it when we're discussing artwork and titles well It's recorded you've just recorded it no, I mean the actual process oh Maybe one of the things we notice with the art works as we're discussing it is people try to guess Oh yeah, the topic that we will be interested in as arts yes Yeah And so if they are so if we never mention it

1:12:48 And we get to the artwork and say, oh this guy just did...we didn't talk about it. What's a disappointment is sometimes it's like a superior piece of art and you say wow what a great piece of art! It's too bad that we didn't talk about this. That does indeed happen. We miss the topic yeah But predicting what we're going to talk about and Pete Buttigieg being called Alfred E. Newman by President Trump... It's not on my list! ...is not something we were ever gonna talk about, at least not on this show. No I don't think so. I will say that the art that was done here that makes him look like Alfred E. Newman is outstanding. Well done yes. He looks just like him. Yeah well probably go for a mom thing. That's pretty obvious. Mom is always good. Mom is always safe bet.

1:13:35 All right, so let's get to our donations. Yes this is our value for value system that you listen you determine if you got any value out of the show if so kick it back put into the network as far as you think in a value and at Mother's Day show we have one executive producer and one associate executive producer and that stuff all we got luckily the executive producer came in with $1,000 flat this is Jason Owen sir low and brow of The High Ground in Brookfield, Wisconsin. And he came in with $1,000 and said ITM gentlemen thank you for your continued diligence in the value for value model. I've been listening to this show for many of your earth years since season one I have received, I've been receiving value my home planet suffers from a Zika like genetic deformity where most citizens are born with teeny tiny little heads and small mouths. This makes it very easy for my people to then keep their collective heads up their asses year round

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Dame Shay-Shay and Knighting Ceremony

Jason Owen, a producer from Wisconsin, contributes $1,000 to the show and requests an "instant daming" for his wife, who is a cancer survivor and loyal listener. She is dubbed Dame Shay-Shay of the No Agenda Round Table. Additionally, Sarah Butterick from Ohio is recognized as an Associate Executive Producer on her first wedding anniversary.

donation· brookfield· beaver creek· squirrel mail· cancer· knighting

1:12:48 And we get to the artwork and say, oh this guy just did...we didn't talk about it. What's a disappointment is sometimes it's like a superior piece of art and you say wow what a great piece of art! It's too bad that we didn't talk about this. That does indeed happen. We miss the topic yeah But predicting what we're going to talk about and Pete Buttigieg being called Alfred E. Newman by President Trump... It's not on my list! ...is not something we were ever gonna talk about, at least not on this show. No I don't think so. I will say that the art that was done here that makes him look like Alfred E. Newman is outstanding. Well done yes. He looks just like him. Yeah well probably go for a mom thing. That's pretty obvious. Mom is always good. Mom is always safe bet.

1:13:35 All right, so let's get to our donations. Yes this is our value for value system that you listen you determine if you got any value out of the show if so kick it back put into the network as far as you think in a value and at Mother's Day show we have one executive producer and one associate executive producer and that stuff all we got luckily the executive producer came in with $1,000 flat this is Jason Owen sir low and brow of The High Ground in Brookfield, Wisconsin. And he came in with $1,000 and said ITM gentlemen thank you for your continued diligence in the value for value model. I've been listening to this show for many of your earth years since season one I have received, I've been receiving value my home planet suffers from a Zika like genetic deformity where most citizens are born with teeny tiny little heads and small mouths. This makes it very easy for my people to then keep their collective heads up their asses year round

1:14:38 Sounds like places I've been to. Florida, having traveled the universe, I can say that the Mueller report is correct in deeming this the best podcast in the universe. I find myself today at Disneyland on Mother's Day without my wife and three daughters. I am a douchebag. In that past, my wife made an instant night donation in my name on Father's Day. My wife is unbelievably amazing. He must be at a convention or something like that. That would because I've been to these places and they usually have some pretty wild events. Yes! My wife is an unbelievably amazing woman and since her donation

1:15:23 Oh, has survived cancer multiple... I'm sorry. Missed a line there. Survived cancer, multiple health issues and surgeries family tragedies and continues to put up with me she also still uses squirrel mail yes! Whoa now that's a woman right there baby! Yeah, squirrel mail and punt cards Despite attempts to upgrade, please accept my instant night. Don't I should tell him my punch card stories from the university of California days? Please accept my instant night donations and her name may she be known as Dame Shay Shay with coffee and Kringle's at the round table And may I please have an F cancer you've got karma and LG Y hugs and kisses sir low and brow of the grant of the high ground

1:16:09 He says, I mightily enjoy your pronunciation of places in Wisconsin almost as much as Adam enjoys your Dutch. I hope to provide you with pronunciation giblets soon." Okay so here's the only thing this was not on my instruction list that i got from The Shill this morning so I have to fill it in manually...I know she wants to be called Dame Shay-Shay but do we have a name for her? Like a, like her actual name or first name? Do I have anything? Uh...I would say Mrs. Owens. Ha ha! There you go. Mrs. Owens. There we go. Mrs. Owens becomes Dame Shay-Shay and she needs coffee and Kringle at the round table Yeah We got that covered for ya so we'll give you an LGY Of course we'll see uh Mrs. Owens at the round table later on

1:17:09 Let me see you what does she want there f cancer LG why yeah, I think we got that You've got karma And our associate executive executive producer Sarah butter Rick in Beaver Creek Ohio to 1427 And she says, first and foremost I'd like a thorough de-douching. Okay. You've been de-douched! We got all the cracks with that one. Secondly, I have to give a shout out to my smoking hot husband Sir Ladyfingers Baron of the Miami Valley May 12th is our first wedding anniversary at one point he said he wasn't sure he would marry someone who wasn't working on her dame hood

1:18:00 Better late than never I guess it's good start Thank you both for the brilliant twice weekly media deconstruction. You keep us wacky Millennials sane Love and light Sarah Butterrick, happy anniversary Yes love and light to you she wants we're all gonna die that's true in a goat scream. I'll combine that with the karma You've got karma And that was it. Those are our people, the associate executive producer and executive producer for show 1137 Yes well both of you have a very valuable credit which you can use anywhere credits are recognized and we suggest you do just that now especially for Sir Lowenbrau he gave his donation to his missus who will be a dame I mean that's something you might want to consider putting out there

1:18:53 That you're a dame of the no agenda roundtable. It's no small feat, F-E-A-T. And most of the dames have small feats which is true. Yes it's an odd... Thank you, well thank you Sir Lowenbrau and Sarah Butterick both of you for being our executive associate executive producers of the Noah Jenner Show. We'd like to do it just like Hollywood give those credits up front and early but we will be thanking everybody $50 and above later on and please remember that we're here as a service all you have to do is keep us going go to Dvorak.org slash N-A And YouTube can continue the deconstruction! Like who else knows what's going on in Venezuela? Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

European Parliament Elections, Proportional Representation and Convoluted Systems

The hosts play an explainer clip regarding the upcoming European Parliament elections and the complex proportional representation systems used across the EU. They mock the "Eurocentric" accents used in official EU media and the perceived lack of transparency in how the President of the European Commission is selected. The system is described as a "convoluted scam" that alienates voters.

european parliament· brexit· nigel farage· brussels· strasbourg· voting

1:19:59 The European parties are in and they can vote on European representation since Brexit is not yet done. The European Union, just explaining this is kind of complicated but I think it's interesting to do without the visuals because the European Union had a little cartoon to explain exactly how it works Do you know how these European Parliament elections work? I'd be remiss if i said, I absolutely knew but I don't. Well I find it to be rather confusing... Somehow Farage gets in is all! At the end of the day Farage's in This year's European elections It's a big deal I love this kind of Eurocentric British accent

1:20:50 It's very different from what you hear in the UK. That is very different than a real British accent! Yeah, it is...it's just very Eurocentric. They got a whole room full of these people in Brussels who do nothing but these voiceovers. But it's not simple. To help you get your head around them we've put together this handy explainer Confusingly, different parts of the EU use different voting systems but all are some form of proportional representation. Some vote for parties who have selected a fixed list of candidates to appear on the ballot paper Other countries have more open lists where voters choose a party or indicate who is their favourite candidate Here electors choose as many candidates as they like and number them by preference

1:21:36 Turnout at EU elections has dropped from 62% to 42% over the last four decades. Because you made it so easy, that's why! That is despite a handful of countries including Belgium Greece and Bulgaria where voting is compulsory MEP are elected to represent geographical areas regions in some countries like Italy while others such as Germany they have the whole country as their constituency The number each country gets is proportional to its population. Now this is kind of interesting, when you hear the difference... It's pretty much the way our House of Representatives works except they don't have a concept of Senate with some equal power so here it's just whoever has the biggest rules Germany, the most populous will get 96 MEP for 82.8 million people while tiny Malta with 475 thousand people has just 6

1:22:31 They will serve a five-year term, 2019 to 2024 and spend their time between European parliaments in Strasbourg and Brussels. They pass EU laws and approve its budget along with the European Council MEPs while representing countries or regions sit in transnational groups in the parliament according to political ideology for example there are groupings to represent the centre right socialists greens and others for euro skeptics MEPs also help choose the President of the European Commission. The largest political grouping after May's election has the strongest mandate to have its choice head up the commission. The European Council, comprising chiefs of EU countries first votes on a nominee chosen after taking into account the election result if they approve the candidate it goes to the European Parliament where he or she must get the support of a majority of MEPs

1:23:28 This is so convoluted. I don't think anyone in Europe... It's dumb! Your eyes glaze over, man. Yeah mine did but still don't understand it. Especially with that background music, is that meant to make me feel calm while trying to comprehend? So everyone has a different system, everyone does it differently. Then you throw a whole bunch of people out there and then they all those people then go and determine who they which could be totally rando they could bring in to be the president of the European Parliament. And then you get that good luck every country in every union gets the government she deserves and you're getting all... But one is not really the government no

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Samos Refugee Camp, Greek Migrant Crisis and EU Funding

Euronews reports on the dire conditions at the Samos refugee camp in Greece, where thousands of migrants live in tents without basic sanitation or toilets. The hosts discuss the failure of the EU-Turkey migrant deal and the backlog of asylum hearings stretching into 2023. They highlight the disconnect between EU funding sent to the Greek government and the lack of resources reaching the ground.

samos· greece· refugees· unicef· asylum· turkey

1:24:16 It's a scam. So as I'm looking around since there is no news in America, at least i didn't feel anything really that newsworthy... ...I wound up watching Euronews and Euronews had a number of stories about Samos the island of Samos which is a Greek Island but it's an odd one because so far off the coast of Greece it actually very close to Turkey you could hop You know hop a little boat to get from the coast of Turkey to this Greek island and what has happened is Samos has been used as a parking place for

1:24:56 for migrants who want to come into Europe and are just being held there because the European Union is like, you know we've got enough people. Remember they kind of closed some borders here and there? Don't look at Greece! You know Greece really doesn't count because you have this... They got no money We don't care about them so Greece is pretty much the dumping site of the EU And they had... Well, I'm gonna play the first piece here about Yeah, about what's happening and the numbers of what's taking place. And then there was a 20-minute piece which I pulled one little specific piece out of here Here's the basic story of Samos talking to a person who set up a community center for these thousands of refugees living in a tent city with no sanitation No garbage disposal! No sanitation and no toilets zero

1:25:57 Zero toilets. We've seen recently people getting interview dates for 2022, even someone for 2023 for their appeal. So they're sitting in... and these are UN, UNICEF actually it says on the side, UNICEF tents with no toilets? No! People just pooping on the perimeter

1:26:35 and the next farmlands, and all kinds of stuff like this. And these people are saying I've been here for eight months! I can't live here for another year-and-a-half before i get my asylum hearing!! So I'm going to go crazy and of course there's all kinds of crime now taking place. This is having people waiting for such a long period of time without any clear information about knowing what's gonna happen with them, without having a proper process where they can integration process in place or having possibility to work and provide for themselves it really affects

1:27:16 It affects people, especially their mental health and this causes a lot of distress. It doesn't look that things are going to change any time soon because the system in place is broken right now. Well, if we look at the EU-Turkey deal it has never properly worked This is the EU-Turkey deal where if someone came into the EU could not rightfully claim asylum The EU paid several billion euros to Turkey to take them back? We remember I remember we covered this. Oh, yeah just send them back no problem Well that's not working out because they're not being sent back They're not being accepted even though you could almost toss them over over off the island they could swim back to Turkey Well if we look at the new turkey deal it has never properly worked People are supposed for their cases or supposed to be treated very quickly and like the whole sport is supposed to be like a

1:28:15 a triage point where people that are supposed to get asylum, they are allowed to stay and those that rejected their asylum they would quickly return to Turkey or to their home country. Right now what's happening is people are just waiting for months or years for their asylum procedures to be completed without knowing what's going on. Even if they get rejected, they are still staying here for a very long time And so, you know there was a piece about some people who have their little house there and they're literally on the other side of the fence and they're feeding some of these people as they can. You see this slop that they are getting is passes for food... I mean it's inhumane animalistic circumstances makes you really think that our putting kids in cages is a good deal when you see this

1:29:12 And is the EU helping out? Right now, the policy of the European Union is to send a big chunk of money to the Greek government. But that money does not reach people on the ground! It's not acceptable that someone has to live in a tent for 8 months or year and half with no sanitation, no protection, no proper food. Looking at the most vulnerable like babies or children or pregnant women they have to live in a tent for a long period of time and there is a lot of money sent but the money does not reach the ground so a lot of initiatives like this one that's here our group we work only on private donations

1:29:54 Yeah, so that sounds like it's going extremely well. So next time we have anyone in the European Union criticize us of our immigration policies I'd like you to focus on the island of Samos Now, they have done something and what they've done is they've determined it would be better to move this camp a couple miles up the road so it's further away from the main drag, the main city. Unfortunately that puts it exactly half a mile from a little village... A little picturesque village on the island of Samos in Greece and what Euronews did in this 20-minute piece

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Euronews Radio Play, Greek Village Protests and Media Censorship

The hosts critique a Euronews segment that uses dramatic voice-overs to translate the complaints of Greek villagers in Mitilini who oppose a new refugee center. The villagers express fears of crime and disease, which the hosts liken to a "radio play." Additionally, a story from the Netherlands is shared where a local newspaper's staff resigned after being forbidden from reporting on a new asylum center.

euronews· mitilini· samos· asylum seekers· censorship· netherlands

1:30:30 You know how they'll have someone talk and they'll just voice over, like a translation? Overdubbing I guess is what they'd call it. Yeah Well now it's like a complete radio play And with emotion So they have couple of people at this impromptu town meeting and there are a couple old guys, couple old ladies all yelling but you don't know what their saying But they've chopped it all together with the Euronews translated voices, but they're acting. And I realized this is like a radio play! The Greek government has promised to close down the Vathi refugee center soon and to open a new and bigger one a few kilometers away from the capital. Georgios is the president of the village of Mitilini next to which the new camp is set to be built Here are the former slaughterhouses where the migrant center is set to be installed

1:31:26 And here you can see where my community is. The distance is one kilometer, so you can understand that the problem of Vathy will come to our village." The topic has inflamed the community. A group of villagers are expecting us. We do not let them go to the destination they want to go too and we are keeping them here by force. And so they are giving us their misery, I mean their misery becomes ours. There just can't be people wandering around without us knowing who they are. They might be criminals thieves or rapists! We don't want them here that's the issue. They can take them wherever they want but here we don't want them thats it

1:32:05 We cannot live with those people. They have 800 diseases if you go to the hospital it is full of black people No, they steal Live with them we will take the law into our own hands quite possibly this all sounds racist We are not. Please don't associate us with this term, but we've had it up to here! Europe has closed its borders and it is Greece that has paid the price for it Those Europeans who take and give orders Can they understand that the only thing they're going to achieve Is the rise of the far right? Little by little They are pushing us to the extremes This is what Europe has succeeded in This is what you should tell them

1:32:47 I don't know. I thought it was kind of cool as a radio play. Yeah, that's funny. Well yeah they can bitch and moan about what we do but that's gotta be a mess over there this whole thing is a joke you know i'm reminded us listening to all this as you were just playing these clips and i'm thinking the europeans really don't have a culture to manage the EU In the formation of the United States, even when we had 13 colonies let alone when we started expanding. If you read the literature from that era, the Europeans scoffed at what were up to especially when we went independent and decided to become one big group as opposed to the small colonies that were all owned by different parts of Europe in many ways or slightly independent but not too far was that it did... At the point

1:33:41 of 1776 era, it was believed that the country was too big to manage. This is going to be the downfall of United States is that these 13 colonies You can't manage it, it's too much. It'll never work! Yes exactly And so there was all of the agreement that French would say that, the Brits would say that to everybody...it was too big I mean look at the size of some our countries and theirs is already too big Meanwhile they go from that kind of thinking over hundreds of years And they don't change it into one language. They don't do anything in Europe to make it easier, they still have all their separate little languages and they decide to make one big monstrosity and try to manage you with a bunch of bureaucrats running out of Belgium? Does this make any sense anybody historically no! No...and by the way

1:34:31 In the Netherlands, there's a smallish town that has a local newspaper and the local newspaper was not allowed by the authorities to inform the community that there would be a new asylum seeker center that will be set up right near their town. This is how bad it is. What? How did that go over not very well in fact the entire News desk quit the paper the paper quit itself pretty much Why what's a paper got to do with because they were not allowed to publish this news and they were forbidden from publishing this news So no one there knew about it until all of a sudden this They start building this Center like well, what is this or are you gonna have asylum seekers over here?

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Houston Barge Collision, Toxic Reformate and Benzene Leak

A collision between two barges and an oil tanker in the Houston shipping channel results in the spill of 25,000 barrels of "reformate." The hosts investigate the chemical composition of reformate, noting it contains carcinogenic benzene and other aromatics used to boost gasoline octane. They criticize the media for using vague terms like "gasoline product" to downplay the environmental and health risks.

houston· barge collision· reformate· benzene· toxic chemicals· cbs news

1:35:24 Which of course in liberal Europe everybody loves people coming seeking asylum, but you know where we don't want it. Yeah NIMBY. Exactly yeah well I do have some news from over here really? Stuff happened okay...I have a couple of clips that bother me because there's missing information all right This one here is the barge report from CBS where we had a little spill. Late this afternoon, two barges and an oil tanker collided in a shipping channel in Houston One of the barges capsized after a hole opened up inside it was carrying about 25 thousand barrels of toxic chemical used to make gasoline Some of that has spilled into the water

1:36:10 Hmm. That's not when you hear that what do you think? What goes through your mind so far as information, what information did was kind of not told who was left out seems well whose barge Was this Well that's one of them yeah that would be nice to know it'd be interesting to know yes uh don't you think you have aren't even curious about what toxic chemical has gotten into the water that's Houston Who gives a shit Well, there's... well besides that let's say it was someplace else. Okay let's say anything but Houston yeah I'd be interested do we know if we figured it out? Do we know at all what's happening with this? If you go look at the news reports this was even more interesting instead of a toxic chemical release I'll read you some headlines from various stories barge leaks gasoline product in Houston ship oh I know what it is barge and tanker collide leaking gas product

1:37:02 Mm-hmm product barges causing massive gas product. Holy crap we're gonna die what is this stuff? Well, what it turns out to be if you do a little research. Oh I know what it is! You don't even get into in these news stories either they just call it reformate. I know what it is! It's the stuff that turns the frogs gay No... That's Atrazine. Ah right, Atrazine yes. Atrazine and its not used in petroleum products. All these news articles talk about it as Reformate. Reformate is this kind of witch's brew of crap

1:37:39 that comes off of various catalytic reform. So it's a waste product? No, it's not a waste product! It is all high-end stuff. Oh, it's the good stuff. But it's all mixed up so you have toluene and naphthene... Benzene, which is carcinogenic. Xylene? A lot of xylene. So you have all these aromatics and some benzene and some other chemicals all it's a witch's brew and it makes the... It's used to boost the octane of normal gasoline. That's some supercharged fish in Houston then! Well I think that was left out of the report in my opinion is the fact that benzene which is highly carcinogenic was leaked into the water nobody's talking about

1:38:23 Damn, and not just a little bit. So this is tons so this is a cover-up then because other I mean And just even I know reporters for reporting no it's it sounds more like the public's gonna get all bent out of shape if you say that So yeah don't look at the public been out of shape about the fact You got a bunch of benzene in the water which is not a good product No but Yeah, but the way they cover it up toxic and as you know toluene is not... these things aren't there. They're all over the place. But this stuff will get into the water supply eventually won't it? I don't know most of it evaporates. It's all high end. I mean it's all very volatile so it'll go away. Oh, so not that big a problem. No if you boil the channel

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Hexane Extraction in Cooking Oils, Chemistry and Health

A discussion on chemical volatility leads to an explanation of how industrial cooking oils are produced using hexane extraction. The host argues that while "natural food fanatics" worry about residual hexane, the chemical flashes off at high temperatures, making the oil safe for deep frying. They contrast these mass-produced oils with expeller-pressed and virgin olive oils.

hexane· cooking oil· mazola· extraction· chemistry· food safety

1:39:13 The stuff will come right off. Don't worry, just boil your arm and it'll rub right off. That's already say I always tell people you know if you're going to use these hexane, most oils that you get unless they specifically say expeller or crushed It depends on how the oil is made, but first virgin olive oil first press is pressed and then a lot of oils are expellers and expellers spin it around. It comes out of the seeds or whatever. But most oil production like the Mazola,

1:39:49 giant gallons of oil that you get, it tends to be a hexane extractor which is the easiest way to pull oil out of nuts and fruits and whatever you're pulling the seeds. Whatever you're pulling the oil out of is you extract with hexane make a mash put hexane in there flash it off and end up with some oil The problem is I believe I believe that there's no way you can flash all the hexane off and so you end up with some residual hexane in the oils. And now a lot of natural food fanatics, oh my God! You can't use these oils for anything. You can use these oils...I also believe based on just basic chemistry that if you take the corn oil that has been hexane extracted and using your salad dressing, you're probably going to ingest some

1:40:38 So you don't use that, you use olive oil. Of course we don't use it. But if you're going to be using it for making french fries why don't you heat that oil up at 320 plus degrees? If there's any residual in there its gone so it is safe. Do I go long oil or short based upon your knowledge? I love how you know all of this. Based on basic chemistry you lost me with chem. Yeah, well you know things flash off and that's what now does that work with chicks? No it turns out Unless they're chemistry nerds right doesn't really work anywhere with any of them. I just want to make sure no It's not a chick magnet thing remember doing it for people out there who like to cook and they always you know they read about this And that about X you know these overpriced expeller oils

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Sorghum Syrup, Dutch Breakfast Traditions and Maple Syrup

The hosts discuss the culinary uses of sorghum syrup, comparing its taste to the molasses and chocolate sprinkles commonly eaten for breakfast in the Netherlands. They reminisce about Dutch traditions involving buttered bread with Gouda cheese. The segment also touches on the value of real maple syrup compared to commercial high-fructose corn syrup alternatives.

sorghum· molasses· gouda· maple syrup· netherlands· breakfast

1:41:38 I mean, when I french fry try to cook in safflower or sunflower oil which is a really good oil for deep fat frying. I've gotten kind of hooked on the sorghum syrup? I know it's... well growing up in Holland In the Netherlands for breakfast, there's really... Certainly younger kids will have a slice of bread or maybe two slices buttered up with margarine actually and then they either put chocolate flakes on there or chocolate sprinkles. They can also do the colored sprinkles but also molasses just spreading molasses on top of the butter

1:42:22 Right. And I grew up eating that, or they can go the other way and have a piece of bread again with the margarine slash butter then slices of young aged Gouda cheese that would be another fan favorite in the morning but also for lunch But I saw it, you know and I just took a piece of bread and put some butter on it. And I tried...I put the sorghum syrup in Oh my God! It took me back is delicious. It's delicious You know? It sounds like it should taste like poop Sorghum that doesn't sound appealing but when you try it, its good man That is sorghum pancake for breakfast today We should try my sorghum syrup on your sorghum pancake

1:43:07 Uh, you know I like the one great delicacy that the United States has pretty much locked down in Canada is maple syrup. Not Aunt Jemima. Aunt Jemima is a sugar water fructose corn syrup and all kinds of crap and who knows what's in there but real 100% maple syrup uh...is a It's a delicacy and it is rather cheap considering how rare and valuable it is. Around the world, it's very expensive. Yeah so all right back to off of the food thing okay well just a few updates Jussie Smollett will not return to Empire for next season he's done oh he's on again off again no I guess now it's off because they you know

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Postal Banking Proposals, Bernie Sanders and Credit Unions

Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez propose the creation of government-owned banks operated through the US Post Office. The hosts compare this to the "Postbank" systems used in Europe but suggest that promoting existing credit unions would be a more effective non-profit banking model for Americans. They express concerns about the customer service and reliability of the current US postal system.

bernie sanders· alexandria ocasio-cortez· usps· postal banking· credit unions

1:43:57 Fox made their decision, said no it's not worth it. So he is off. Good liar! Bernie Sanders and AOC are calling for the creation of government owned banks run by the US Post Office And I want to say, would you like your savings in stamps? Well, I've used this system when I was growing up. It was quite popular in the Netherlands and it was called Post Hero and you literally did your banking at the post office or you could do it through the mail which was free and you filled out your little card for payments and yeah...and that is still there! You can still now they do it online but what interests me is why don't they promote

1:44:50 Credit unions. I mean it doesn't necessarily have to be a government run thing for it to be more of a non-profit model and the bank that's not trying to screw you over or at least is being honest about it, not getting back end deals for the worst they screw you and that's a credit union we have them all over the United States in there and they are community banking to its maximum You don't have to be in a union But having a banking system within the post office, I mean, I don't know if we could do it with our postal system but it's not a bad idea necessarily. I've seen it work. Yeah you've seen it work but there are lot of post offices because they're little fiefdoms in the United States and that'd be some issue with customer service. Oh well just like me...I don't have a mailbox so just imagine like you move sorry or you don't have any money

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Cecile Richards, Tulsi Gabbard and Media Erasure of Women

Former Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards appears on Democracy Now and claims there are only four women running for president. The hosts identify this as a significant gaffe or intentional erasure of Tulsi Gabbard, the fifth female candidate. They discuss Gabbard's anti-war platform and speculate on why the Democratic establishment and media figures like Amy Goodman seem to exclude her from the conversation.

cecile richards· tulsi gabbard· amy goodman· planned parenthood· 2020 election

1:45:45 Sorry, we don't know where your money account is. It's gone. So I caught another clip that is considered something of a gaffe or maybe not – I'm not sure – but it would seem to me that if you were a newsreader and you were an expert Remember the woman who was the head of Planned Parenthood, kind of... Yeah Cecile Rogers. No no no not Rogers. Cecile Richards. I've always liked her. She's Ann Richards' daughter if you remember? Yes yes i do yeah from the Texas governor. Well she starting to look like George Soros.

1:46:32 Oh man! I saw her recently. I didn't catch the Soros vibes. Yes, she's getting that Sith look for you Star Wars folk. Yeah she starting to look Sith So, I mean that's a drawback. But she was on with Amy and there is a little gaffe in here...I want to see if you can spot it? I don't know that you will but you might! But I did immediately and had to go back and show her this bull crap How can you not know this? Okay, let's have a listen. And anyone who wants to be elected has to respond to the issues that women care about and so that'll be a lot of organizing work we're doing both online and offline in the coming months Four Democratic women have now announced their plans to run for president The significance of this for you and will you be endorsing I think

1:47:25 I think the importance of, obviously there's no way to overstate the importance of women running for president and i'm thrilled that they are. And I think they're raising issues that have long been needed to be raised. I think it's disturbing to see what I believe is a real double standard in how they are being treated versus many many many men that are running for president you know two-thirds of political reporting is still done by man and so I am hoping both through supermajority, through other folks that follow the media. We can actually be lifting up the important work that these women have done as you probably know These are women who in large part have never lost a political race and so when people talk about women being unelectable I think it's really important to look at their record because it stands up Really in contrast to a lot of the folk- a lot of the men who are actually in the race right now Hmm Who is she working for now?

1:48:23 Oh, it's some guy said so you'd look her up. You should some or something that's like a lot not a lobbying group at a sum, you know NGO kind of an operation and why did she leave? I don't know. I can remember that but the point of the clip was more about the gaff which i think was inexcusable considering we have Amy, who's a newsreader and knows that... should know about this because it's about they're talking about women politicians and Richard should have said something. So what was the gaffe? There are four women running for president is the gaffe there's five

1:49:07 I consider it a huge gaffe. If you're woman and you're all up for women running for the... Alright, name them now! Name them now! If you count Hillary it would be six but Hillary's not running there are five not four and I think they purposely forget one and I think the one that keep forgetting is Tulsi Gabbard. Yes, they don't even consider her a contender for some reason Yes, they eschew her. That is so weird! So they stick a thumb in her eye and they say four and the four that they're talking about is Klobuchar, Harris, Warren, and Gillibrand Right And the fifth one is Tulsi Gabbard That's so rude

1:49:49 But it's not, it's not unexpected. You know I bought first of all I like Tulsi Gabbard Tulsi Gabbard is the only anti-war winner we're talking about the war and that's what I'm saying That's the whole point really? I like Tulsi Gabbard a lot I've liked her since she we first became aware for five years ago Maybe six years ago and said now she could totally be president but her message is wrong She hates war as a veteran. She's been in war so that's wrong but she also has Yeah, she has zero stage presence. She's very... I mean she's stately and she speaks thoughtfully and slowly but who gives a crap?

1:50:28 No one cared no one wants that anymore. We need to see fire and passion people yes, yes Yes, we'd fire and passion and and pissed off Ness And now she doesn't have any of that but for her just be excluded by these top women is very late She's the one they excluded well sure cuz they never mentioned names Yeah, I agree with you so there's only four women running yeah, yeah bullcrap, and I'm looking at a Wikipedia page but What is no it doesn't say where she's currently working. It's some weird organization I'd like to know what happened there because I thought she was on I actually thought she was on her way into politics it seemed like She would be perfect to do some good in the Democratic Party Yeah, must have been some scandal with no one ever wanted to bring something's going on yeah Maybe we just missed that if you dodge the needle from measles That's illegal for if you catch the measles you will die

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Measles Outbreak Hysteria, Alabama False Positive and Boosters

The hosts examine the media coverage of a presumed measles case in St. Clair County, Alabama, which was later confirmed by the CDC to be a negative result. They critique the "hysteria" surrounding the 25-year high in measles cases and the constant push for vaccine boosters. The discussion questions why vaccinated individuals are concerned about outbreaks if the inoculations are effective.

measles· alabama· cdc· vaccine· booster· public health

1:51:29 die. Yes, yes tracking the measles because it's just so much fun to do we spread over to Europe hundred thousand people with the measles just tell them how important it is I mean measles is a horrible disease and it can kill it does spread very, very quickly. And so the only way to protect yourself is to make sure you've had the full course of vaccine and it's never too late just because your child is a little bit older now they can still go and get their vaccine from the GP. Yes! Everyone go get your shots! Get your booster! Who didn't get these shot? How do you get all these people getting infected? These shots are distilled water I think this was a scam You know I'm with ya everyone's like so worried Now we know that if you've been inoculated

1:52:13 You cannot get it again. If you've had it, you cannot get it again but now there's these wishy-washy need to booster 94 97 look if you protected by the vaccine then what are you worried about? Why is everybody freaking out? Alabama County Fair oh my! There was of a five month old baby she has reddened mazel Everybody freak out! Live at five, we first broke this for- live at five. We're on the floor the new information that the testing for that St Clair County baby presumed to have measles was negative. Negative? Oh my god. Woo! Woo! Sigh of relief woo! Information from Alabama's Department of Health. What did you find out, Alan? Well those are the results and remember we've been saying this all along while there was concern she might have had measles we're talking about that five-month year old infant over in St. Clair County but tests had to be done it had to be done by the CDC the tests were done they were eventually the Public Health Department releasing like this afternoon it might be a rash or some sort but is definitely not measles

1:53:10 Now we can tell you the public health department, they are investigating about 80 cases right now in Alabama as an investigation. The public health department has already dismissed 170 of those investigations and cases again those were not measles state of health officials That must be that fifth disease that what we were talking about if it's not measles things like well its not measles move on Hold on, I think that's kind of important to know if there is something that looks like measles. Because everyone all freaked out? That it's measles? I'm telling you as you heard St. Clair County, that little girl it was presumptive positive until the actual... Presumptive positive nice! ...test were done and examined and that was by the CDC so no measles in Alabama but remember we have those 80 investigations

1:53:54 And of course we can also tell you the health department, they look into communicable vaccinated cases to possible diseases all the time. So that's is this is not that unusual. I think that's what he's doing. He's auctioning off this idea that we all need to get a shot and catch up with Dr Karen Landers today. She's with the public health department Tell me overall Alabama is still in very good shape when it comes to measles. We're a highly vaccinated state, still you know there is that possibility somebody unvaccinated gets exposed elsewhere You meant to vaccineer? ...comes here could cause a problem if you have any questions again check with your doctor he'll let you know if possibly if you need to get a booster or not Ah get your booster I think we should get boosters Let's get boosters for our anniversary baby Let's get a booster together

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Dr. Kenneth Stoller, Vaccine Exemptions and California Law

San Francisco authorities investigate Dr. Kenneth Stoller for allegedly granting medical exemptions for vaccinations that do not meet state criteria. The hosts discuss California's Senate Bill 277, which eliminated religious and personal belief exemptions, leaving only medical necessity. They critique Senator Richard Pan's efforts to further restrict these exemptions, specifically for children with compromised immune systems or cancer.

kenneth stoller· san francisco· sb 277· vaccine exemptions· richard pan

1:54:40 And there's some Yahoo jamokin San Francisco who has been, you know if you want to get out of this. You can buy your way into school or you can buy your way out of vaccines We showed up at the offices of Dr Kenneth Stoler on Broadway whose medical records will be reviewed by the San Francisco City Attorney's Office This is part of an ongoing investigation into whether this particular doctor was granting medical exemptions to patients that didn't qualify for them. There's no hiding the fact that Stoller has issued medical exemptions for vaccination purposes we found people had written on Google review about his work I am so grateful to have him This is now journalism

1:55:24 Wow, we checked out the web and we got a Google review page. It's like Yelp only shittier! Yeah let's read that for everybody. We found people had written on Google Review about his work I am so grateful to have found him to help my son regarding vaccinations another posted we sought out dr. Stoller when in the middle of spring of last year my daughters were being asked for new vaccine exemptions said Senate Bill 277 which went into effect in 2016 says you can no longer cite religious or personal beliefs to get out of vaccinating children. I didn't know that! But the two state senators behind... Yeah, you can only get out if it if um.. If you have cancer or if you have an immune system issue Which quite honestly You know? You got a lot of other problems going on

1:56:16 Of course you want to introduce a virus but you probably also shouldn't be in school with an immune issue. family history. Dr Stoler's attorney Skyped with us from back east, so there are a group of doctors in California that have taken these two senators at their word and are issuing broader indications based on family history just like the senator said they could do. But now state Senator Richard Pan one of the authors of the bill says the law has been exploited by some doctors

1:57:00 As you know, we're having measles showing up. People are bringing it into our state and we can't have measles spreading rapidly through a school. He's now behind... How does that work if 99% is vaccinated? How can spread rapidly through the school It makes no sense unless they're shooting people up with distilled water in charge of 20 bucks. It's Occam's razor really and we can't have measles spreading rapidly through a skull He is now behind another bill 276 this time calling for the state health department to vet all medical exemptions

1:57:40 And both State Senator Pan and the City Attorney's Office say they are most concerned with kids who cannot get vaccinated because they either have cancer or a compromised immune system. They say... Wow, she said that almost with disdain! These kids keep getting cancer, you can't get your shot because of the cancer? What's wrong with you kid?! And the city attorney's office say they are most concerned with kids who cannot get vaccinated because they either have cancer or a compromised immune system. These stupid ass kids! They're the ones in real danger California is becoming Florida

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

San Francisco Teacher Sick Leave, GoFundMe and Union Laws

A veteran second-grade teacher in San Francisco battling breast cancer is forced to pay for her own substitute teacher after exhausting her ten days of sick leave. The hosts explain the California law that requires teachers to fund their replacements out of their own salaries during extended leave. They note that a GoFundMe campaign raised $14,000 to assist the teacher, highlighting flaws in the union-negotiated benefits.

san francisco· glen park elementary· sick leave· gofundme· breast cancer

1:58:19 with these crazy stories. I got a California story similar to this... Can i just want to say before you move on, just wanted to say something about this. This semi-vaxx talk that we have because we're not anti vaxers were just you know yeah you keep bringing this up yes it's important you gotta say it! I want to say for people who are new listening to us You appreciate what you were a part not you John but what everyone else is a part of with this program? You can't say this stuff and post it on YouTube. You can't say this stuff and put it on Facebook You can't say the stuff that oh, they listen to my great show on SoundCloud You can't know we can't sell CDs of this on Etsy Just because you're asking questions you get kicked off of that which is why we use the actual internet and all the pieces that it includes

1:59:06 Let me close out the segment. Measles, how vulnerable is the general public right now? Cases have been surging and that is a 25 year high Are you sure it's the measles? Alright The measles Well in San Francisco they have this story This is teacher has to pay for her replacement story A California teacher who was battling breast cancer isn't just facing mounting medical fees She is also being forced to pay for her own replacement Turns out it is the law Here's Jamie Ucas She's a veteran second grade teacher at San Francisco's Glen Park Elementary School. We're choosing not to identify her to protect her privacy when parents heard she was actually required to pay for her own substitute they were outraged and launched the GoFundMe page to help cover costs. I could not believe that this could be happening, that this would be a law and the more i found out the more angry I got

2:00:02 Teachers can use 10 paid sick days per school year. Once those are exhausted, they can use 100 days of extended sick leave and receive their regular salary minus the substitutes pay. It doesn't seem fair at all Connie Leyva chairs the California Senate's Education Committee. We would never want one of our teachers who is basically educating our future to be worried about where their family is going to be when they're out battling cancer Since the GoFundMe page was launched at the end of last month, nearly $14,000 has been raised well over the ten thousand dollar goal The teacher posted an appreciation. My heart is lifted and it gives me so much strength to know that so many people care about me in my family I hope next year our leaders in Sacramento will take a hard look at that, and make sure that they change the language of the law Jamie Ucas CBS News Now when are you guys leaving the union? Oh can't come quick enough! Can't come quick enough! Now...I have one clip I want to play which I think

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

CBS Evening News, Jeff Glor Departure and Norah O'Donnell

Jeff Glor signs off from his final broadcast as anchor of the CBS Evening News before the program moves to Washington D.C. The hosts critique the decision to replace Glor with Norah O'Donnell, whom they describe as a "flubber" and less objective. They reminisce about past anchors like Connie Chung and discuss the decline of traditional network news standards.

jeff glor· norah o'donnell· cbs news· evening news· connie chung

2:01:07 I don't know if we're going to get to it or not, but where are now because we talked about this in the last couple of shows. I think we've discussed the false flag. Yes, we were quite familiar with the flag of falseness And it's going to be... In Iran, we need an Iranian false flag. That's why we got the fleet out there. This is the latest from CBS and by the way I want you know Jeff Gloris is quitting or got no got fired Oh? From CBS Evening News he did have a very I have a little short his sign off was very sweet because it was mostly about the crew didn't talk too much about himself and then actually quit on Friday quit the show early talked about the crew and said wanna thank everyone of them then they do that

2:01:48 slow roll of the credits, which is what you usually do if the show's not long enough. But in this case it was like he walks off the thing and they do this unbelievably slow roll of just not only everybody that's on doing the show- I know they don't have eight cameramen working the show. Well, not on that particular night but... No but that's the point well anyway they did a slow roll but Jeff Gloris I do have his last sign off it's kind of sweet we don't need to play i want to hear it now no you set it up okay as we leave here tonight I just want to say thanks how long was he in this job A year? Two years. And he took over from Pelley, first it was Anthony Mason who took over from Pelley and then they kicked him to the field and then brought Gloria in as I thought well... I like the way Mason was presenting but I like Gloria because he's got a very nice extremely pleasant professional voice He is not a flubber

2:02:45 and he seems objective, unlike Pelly who is a Trump hater. And so what are they gonna do? They're gonna get rid of Glore and they're bringing in the Trump hater Nora O'Donnell from The Morning Show! She's going to be... she's a flubber she's not gonna be able to sit there and seriously read the news What are they thinking?! By the way according to The Mueller Report ever since you got canned from PC Magazine You've become a Trump supporter Yeah, I didn't see that in there so that's bullcrap. Well someone said so on Twitter so it must be true So, uh... let's hear anyway so Gloria. I want to hear his goodbye. Let's here Gloria's goodbye Oh yeah As we leave her tonight i just wanna say thanks This is a short broadcast but long game Through it all the people who put on evening news remain committed this program will be moving to Washington DC in the coming months I wish Nora O'Donnell best of luck though she won't need it because of all the people

2:03:44 I heard it. I wish her the best of luck! Wish Nora O'Donnell the best of luck, because she won't need it because all the people backing her up so I'd like to use the time I have left on this night to recognize them their hours are long and unpredictable their family and friends are unfailingly patient Oh no thanking the crew yeah It's an old one It's a team effort I think my crew... These guys screwed me over. So what? We don't know what happened. They're bringing in Norah O'Donnell to take my place, are you kidding me?! That's what he should have said Yeah, I bet she tests really well though

2:04:28 Wait until she starts doing it. Who is it they brought in that woman? I think he was also brought into CBS, the morning woman from The Today Show who's...I can't remember her name but she was terrible! You know just because you know it's nice to have a woman anchor but if you can do it I mean the epitome of female anchors on news reading is Amy Goodman What happened to Connie Chung Whatever happened to Connie Chung? I think she married Maury Povich. No, she did marry him but... She was actually pretty good. But she was your stereotypical Asian woman news model! I will say this they had and i don't want to sound like a racist

2:05:19 But the Asian news readers I've seen that wants to come in, because we have a lot of them in the Bay Area and they come and go. There was one woman here that you would just sit and waiting. I mean, I don't care who you are or how good you are, you can't go weeks after weeks after weeks of daily news reading with never making a flub saying uh, something. There was this woman, I can't remember her name but she would scream through the news and she would be flawless and i'm thinking well maybe some Asian news readers just have a skill set that you know you can't otherwise achieve so Connie Chung I think was in that league Nora O'Donnell will not pull this off

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Iran Tensions, USS Abraham Lincoln and War Machine Costs

The US deploys a carrier strike group and B-52 bombers to the Persian Gulf in response to intelligence reports of potential Iranian attacks. The hosts discuss the rhetoric from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the potential for a "false flag" event to trigger conflict. They question the massive financial cost of moving such a large military force into the region and the lack of media scrutiny regarding these expenditures.

iran· uss abraham lincoln· b-52· mike pompeo· persian gulf· david martin

2:06:10 She won't pull it off, you watch. That wasn't racist at all by the way I don't understand what you were worried about? Well i'm always worried because you keep calling me out on it. Oh your misogynist is all hell but okay let's uh so anyway so okay back to Iran the reason why we think that it's ripe for a false flag is A.) I mean come on it's what they do it's fun um B, we had Pence specifically tell a group of Iranians behind closed doors which was not Pence Pompeo CIA State Department former CIA will get it eventually, specifically told them which means you know it had to leak out. We're just holding back we're not doing anything no aggressive moves from us it's not gonna be us whatever you see might happen it won't be us! We are not doing anything so that means of course that there is something afoot and meanwhile they take the Abraham Lincoln and about 8 destroyers 10 thousand sailors and they send him right this is this is and nobody's saying this is how

2:07:11 Yes, Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard's all over it haven't you heard? I haven't heard that but here is the report from CBS with Jeff. Iran's Revolutionary Guard today ruled out any talks with the US aimed at getting Tehran to give up its nuclear program this as tensions grew with a new show of force in the region Here is David Martin A carrier strike group has already passed through the Suez Canal and B-52 bombers already landed at an airbase in the Persian Gulf But the Pentagon is sending even more forces to back up its warnings to Iran. Patriot air defense missiles, an amphibious assault ship a nuclear-powered submarine along with fresh supplies of precision guided weapons are all on their way in response to intelligence reports Iran is preparing to attack American troops or diplomats Secretary of State Pompeo has warned any attacks will be answered with a swift and decisive US response

2:08:09 In an interview with Margaret Brennan for Face the Nation, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he's worried the stage is being set for a conflict neither side wants. If the Iranians make the mistake of launching attack in the Persian Gulf on American warship, the administration probably won't have any alternative but to retaliate. Geez! The carrier Lincoln was first passed by Yemen where Iranian-backed rebels have in the past fired missiles at American ships And once it arrives at the entrance to the Persian Gulf, it will be operating under the noses of Iran's hard-line Revolutionary Guard units. David Martin CBS News The Pentagon You know I really hope Trump has a handle on what is going on here because all these things can just collapse so poorly

2:09:01 And really, I mean they're ratcheting up the Syrian thing again. Oh Assad is bombing- I didn't even clip it it was so insulting! Assad is bombing hospitals again killing children and patients, hospitals... The war machine is huge!! Well, this particular situation is so obvious. We're shipping all these armaments... Yeah! 10 thousand on sailors alone? Yeah and what is it that here's the one thing that never discussed by any of these news operations because you could if you were working in DC you could ask somebody even go yeah the Pentagon briefings uh The question is what does it cost

2:09:44 to move the Abraham Lincoln and all of the new gear, and fly the B-52s, take all those ships and move them into the region right next to Iran. What does it cost? How much does it cost to move all this gear over there in the first place? It's got a cost...it's gotta cost a fortune. I'm pretty sure we can find the answer in the Mueller report Space Force! That's what it is. Everyone, the so-called media is so bad and it's hard enough even if you put something in a headline in The New York Times most people won't really know about it It's got to be headline news for days and days and days. It's gotta be hammered There's too much media too much noise people tune it out they got other things to do

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Mother's Day Donation Segment, Listener Shout-outs and Knighting

The hosts conduct a lengthy donation segment, reading notes from listeners who contributed in honor of Mother's Day. They acknowledge various "knights" and "dames" of the show, providing "de-douchings" and "karma" as requested. The segment includes personal stories from producers and a discussion on the "War and Peace" length of some donation notes.

donations· mother's day· knighting· producers· newsletter· karma

2:10:35 They don't care. So the machine is very good at the repetition because that's what works, it's how... Why do you see the same damn princess toast commercial for the stupid vitamin C gummy bear for your moronic kids? And I- and I have kids and keep seeing this ad! Well, I have one but not who needs to eat gummy bears It's because it works and you remember it But they're not all they're doing is muller muller muller bar trump bleh muller muller muller bar trump bleh muller muller muller bar trump eugh Nothing! Not informing the American people. And I'm sure it's not much better anywhere else No, well you know it's not Let's go here is an interesting one This is a story that... We should take our break unless its related we should do a break here Oh my god! I'm gonna show myself old by donating to NO AGENDA Imagine all the people who could do this Well yeah thats be fab

2:11:33 All right, we do have a few people to thank for show 1137 starting with author Arthur Gobbits go bits or goblets And he actually sent a note in in Dutch I just wanted to say I'll translate on the fly Adam This is my Mother's Day donations from my mom who's had a hard time recently with my dad who has a broken hip His brother or son has ADHD... No. He says it's really tough to have a son who has ADHD who just became a Viscount Oh, I guess he is talking about himself! He needs health and relationship karma for dad but especially for mom Marchit, a Mother's Day call out So I wanted to make sure we did that And since he is of course Sir Arthur Goebbets I will hand out a Karma as well

2:12:30 You've got karma. I know, i'm going off book but... It's Sir Arthur! Sir Hugger of Kitties! The, while I read the names and donations you will be looking for the Mother's Day call outs because it was an open style which means you can donate any amount. And then we'll call out your mom if you so mention it. In other words, you mentioned your mom well we'll call her out. That's the way this worked wasn't a big success but... But we do it every year in hopes that it will work and yet again no

2:13:05 It's Valentine's Day is worse, which makes me really wonder. Oh, that's the people are fighters not lovers here man David Rosenfeld $125 nothing about his mom. Nice. He's a good guy but it's nothing about his mom Jeffrey Jacques Jacques Jeffrey Jacques Yeah Happy Mother's Day to my mom Jackie and my wife Marty and two all know agenda followers mothers wives and sisters Dr. Jeff in Manhattan, 345 Hocus Locus 118 43 His message was please disregard this message Fantastic even Draper in Arlington Virginia $111 and 10 cents no note at all Brian and Portland Oregon Nope sir Tristan Banning in Toronto on which is 139 Canadian

2:14:02 He likes to say. Chad Finkbeiner, $100 and his first donation give him a de-douching? Okie dokie. You've been dedouched! Uh, Lynn Fogwell a hundred dollars. Rob Van Dyke $100 from the Netherlands. Sir Patrick Coble of course Earl of Tennessee 9999 happy mother's day to my best friend and my wife and mother of our two kids you are awesome! And we appreciate everything you do for our family I'm also blessed to have my mom in her mom in our lives. A lot of moms in that group Probably why he's traveling so much. Sir Crow, the Fiber Knight 8008 Happy first Mother's Day to my smoking hot wife Kim boob for breast milk what 808 asked wait a minute asked for human resource and job karma back in November got dividends on both should have also asked for birthing karma

2:14:59 Okay, turn 30 on May 11th. Yes sir Crowe the Five-Night you're on the list for today Alexander Stolzberger 8008 Sir DH Slammer 6969 And he's got some requests for some stuff we'll put at the end, hopefully. Matthew Mongan 69, Sir Dwight The Knight 6789, Baron Mark Tanner 6789. What's his specialty as a matter of fact? Jonathan Greenlee, 5858. Hold on hold on hold on Jonathan Greenlee happy Mother's Day to mother Milny of the Rock River Valley your loving son JG and the kids Miguel Lopez 5678 Happy Mother's Day to mom Mercedes and his smoking hot wife Tanya Adam Conklin 5555 David Good 5512 sending you some cash to give my lovely

2:16:01 Lovely maybe wife and no my lovely and loving mother Nelda a podcast shout out don't worry. She'll never hear it What's a podcast and such? Thanks Robert smiley 55 10 for his mom Betty even though she's dementia B, I still love her Okay, Nicholas Zuma's call up 510. No he says For Mother's Day call up my wife Katie as a douchebag for not being subscribed to the newsletter no We're not gonna do that we don't douche women for that right well you're getting it aren't you Nicholas?

2:16:40 It's enough, just make her read it. Forward it to her and make her life miserable." Ryan Brady 5510. Yeah happy Mother's Day mom if you still listen we're doing well with moms aren't we? This is part of the problem all love 5510. Yay Mom Sir Daddycastlovethelovehouse Cynthia Burke 55 yeah that's to her mom I love you mom Cindy she says okay Wow, yeah now we got somebody who decided to write war and peace which of course in my spreadsheet I can't see. Yeah We should come up with it just a suggestion because I've done this myself It's Christopher King the joke is you wrote war and peace what would be a hipper version of that? shouldn't be like the Kicked over the hornets nest trilogy or maybe Tolkien or Lord of the Rings We need to update what when we say that

2:17:38 Well, you we don't say it. It's my joke I say it all the time and your want me to change it No, I'm I say it too. Yeah, you know what changing work on that just working a material Atlas Shrugged Bible the Bible Atlas shrugged This is my first donation he says and Special shout out to both, both mothers and the MFers that made them that way. Okay? No names. 55 bucks you're not reading this entire note there's no way. No. Sir Mike from Ewing New Jersey happy Mother's Day happy birthday to my smoking hot wife Chris yes she is on the list

2:18:28 He's also, he gave 5467. Laura Wilson 53-53 if I can say it in Sammamish Washington. And she says happy 53rd to Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades May 12th is his birthday same day as our daughter graduates college! Very nice Robert Roberts 5150 in honor of his awesome mom Stephanie Gunter a cow hand in California and tougher than any man I know he says Curiously, and the random number theory continues. We have Austin Wilson. Oh obviously in relation to Laura Wilson in Sammamish Washington 5120 yes happy Mother's Day today. Laura of the snowy Cascades from Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades it's quite a day as our daughter graduates from these so these two they are so loving this family and they both like that surprising each other and then both mentioned their daughter beautiful beautiful family

2:19:29 Stuart Walton, 51. What is the date today? They're graduating from college in the middle of May?! At least just graduated! She just came home Friday. Oh they're just trying to cut the year down these guys... Love to Mom Jill and Stansted Montfitchett in the UK from her son Stuart and Simon. 85, still going strong never had a fight reads newspaper without their glasses. And that's Stewart Walton $51. Brielle Slate in Lake Hopacong in New Jersey. Happy birthday to Jeremy Ryan Slate of the Create Your Own Life podcast, love Brielle and Adelaide yes on the list got it. 5088 from Brielle Lee Olivares Oliveras 5058 for our mom Diane

2:20:23 Baronet Sir Economic Hitman came in from Houston, Texas. $50 and one cent to following people will be 50 dollars name and location if I can have the location and Adam will catch the mom's shout outs. Starting with Robert Kerback in Essexville Michigan Kevin Silverman is Severn Maryland Robert Dekanay in Fairfax Virginia Sam Godwin in Parts Unknown. For my mom, Sue who gave me courage and was never afraid to hit me in the mouth. Roy Denhaven in Pine Knocker. Very good

2:21:07 Holland get more lowlands black night black knight says lacknight black knight sir lineman of the net Raleigh hawk yes happy mother's day to my wife Robin from Black Knight Sir linemen of the nets Raleigh Hawk indeed pronounced Marcello said her name I guess. Oh no, that's the next one. That's Marcello. Again, Mussoumetchi, I guess. 50. That's a, that is a... No but it is his first donation. He says credit Unfilter for bringing me here. Are those guys still on? I thought they were off the air. No no they're there now okay he would David they haven't been out for almost a year now you probably listen to Unfilter picked up our show and then yeah wanted we wanted the original donate one of the originals thing

2:22:00 He's hoping to God that he'd come back, but no they didn't. Chrissy could have asked us for help and we could have shown him some ways of making money. Not anymore! Jonathan Ferris in Liberal Kansas, Kimberly Redman in Toronto Ontario and our last on our list is Robert Bruckner and it doesn't have any so that's it for our call-outs too Okay, well I thank these folks want to thank their moms yes and happy Mother's Day Happy Mother's Day to Tiffany my sister and my sister Willow both outstanding moms of course Tina the Keeper. Happy Mothers' day to Mimi. Tina the Keeper is the best mom in the universe Jesse will never listen to this show no it's not such a great mom because she doesn't listen so

2:22:47 Well, she'd be a better mom if she listened to the show. And also I guess Dee up in Eric Dechille's wife... She does listen sometimes. Yeah, she listens from time-to-time and she's busy. She got like 20 boys they got there? How many kids are running around that? They've got 13 kids. I knew it was something like that! That's nuts. And um... She will be uh... Maybe she may or may not hear the call out Well, thank you all very much. And all the other moms that we missed saying hello to. We love all our mom and our mom's in heaven John Yeah my deaf mom in heaven what? What was I talking about?

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No Agenda Meetups, Tel Aviv Event and Global Community

The hosts promote upcoming No Agenda meetups in cities including Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Copenhagen. They specifically mention a potential meetup being organized by "Sir Jono" in Tel Aviv, Israel. Listeners are encouraged to visit the meetup website to connect with other "free thinkers" in their local areas.

meetups· tel aviv· cincinnati· seattle· copenhagen· toronto

2:23:32 We do have a make good from Joe's Salas. So Solis our a Adam John her episode 1135 where I donated $121 donation was attributed to me the donation was supposed to be for my buddy and fellow producer clay bass Avicii I think, in order to get him to knighthood. I just wanted to send you both an email so we could get the credit for the donation and finally reach knighthood So... We need to have the details about his knighthood. So have Clay Send in a note either myself or John And then we'll get it off to the back office and Eric will take care of it But that will be next time! We still have a couple things on the list before we get back to the show Meetups The list keeps growing

2:24:18 I'll give it to you one more time. You can find these at noagendameetups.com People are organizing these so you can meet up with other like-minded folk It's nice, no matter where you are in the world and you know it's like a there is no condemnation At a No Agenda Meetup doesn't matter who you or what you are yeah everybody has their all free thinkers yes? It's really nice. It's very very enjoyable May 18th Cincinnati, Ohio the 25th. We've got to Eastern North Carolina Pittsburgh Pennsylvania oh I Forgot 20th this is not official yet But I think sir Jono is trying to set up a meetup in Tel Aviv Israel on the 20th but but Mimi thinks that he's posting his spam or something so I gotta talk to me make sure she knows that yeah we have people in Israel and

2:25:11 So that would be a nice meetup to go to, May 20th. We're working on that but again you can find this at noagenmetups.com when they're confirmed. Charleston South Carolina on the 30th of may into June Sarasota Florida on the 2nd Seattle Washington Jun 6 Toronto Canada on june 7 Oklahoma City on the 8th of June and Copenhagen June 15 so thats whats on the books. Yeah I mean this is fantastic and once You know, we've gotten a lot of busy period behind us. I look forward to hopefully coming to a couple of these and also thank you everybody who came in under $50 which We always keep as a cutoff mark for people who definitely want to be anonymous no mess-ups possible all of you and also those view on Rotating continuing subscription donations Thank you for keeping this program going it is after all your podcast and coincidentally the best one in the universe vorac org

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Birthday Celebrations, Dame Shay-Shay and Final Credits

The hosts read a list of listener birthdays and officially complete the "instadaming" ceremony for Dame Shay-Shay. They reiterate the value-for-value model and thank the producers for their financial support. The segment serves as a transition toward the final topics of the broadcast.

birthdays· dame shay-shay· knighting· credits· producers

2:26:05 Let's just do the obligatory karmas. Here we go, it is Mother's Day the 12th of May 2019. Here's our birthday list for Kevin Dill's Viscount of Charlotte turns 33 today Mr Mike, Sir Mike says happy birthday with smoking hot wife Chris she celebrated on the 13th so a little belated

2:26:45 Laura Wilson, happy birthday to Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades for his birthday today. Brielle and Adelaide, happy birthday to Jeremy Ryan Slate and Sir Crowe the Fiber Knight we congratulate him belatedly he turned 30 on May 11 Happy Birthday to all of you from all of us here at The Best Podcast in the Universe Let's get straight to it with our daming I'd like to get Mrs Owens up here Thank You very much Mrs Owens Step on up and congratulations, an Insta-daming! Haven't seen one of those in a long time but we're very pleased to have you here. This is the round table over there you see the knights and the dames We interspersed so you can sit wherever you want So you can choose your spot But of course this is thanks to your husband's instadaming In the amount of $1,000 And I'm hereby very proud to pronounce the K The Dame Shay Shay Dame Of the No Agenda Round Table For you by request we have

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Diesel Submarines, Stealth Capabilities and Nuclear Comparison

A producer provides a technical explanation of why diesel-electric submarines are often quieter and more dangerous than nuclear-powered vessels. The note explains that nuclear subs must constantly run coolant pumps, while diesel subs can operate silently on batteries at low speeds. However, diesel subs are vulnerable when they must surface or use a snorkel to recharge their batteries.

diesel submarines· nuclear submarines· sonar· stealth· cavitation

2:27:43 Coffee and Kringle. Yes, we got hookers and blow We got rent boys in Chardonnay might be into that of course we also have Mutton and me! Go over to noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the show will help you out get that out to you as soon as possible And please tweet out a picture. We love our dames our knights all royalty at the No Agenda roundtable Thank You Dvorak org slash na all help is welcome and necessary I have a note from producer Grant about the invention of the diesel subs. Oh, we were talking about them if it was an antiquated thing or why... We were laughing at that. What was the point they made? What's the point in saying it? Well this guy here just... A couple people actually said this to me. Diesel subs are exceedingly quiet compared to nuclear boats

2:28:38 Nuclear vessels need to maintain their coolant pumps even when lying silent. This means they always create some level of noise that can be detected by passively listening. Diesel subs run on batteries, meaning that they can be completely silent while moving at low speed and cannot be detected unless they move quickly which causes cavitation. This means the sub can move into a shooting position without the enemy detecting them while running like this their opponent must use active sonar to ping them

2:29:14 Active sonar gives away the picket ship's exact position and is likely to invoke a torpedo launch at the surface ship doing the pinging. This is why they are very dangerous! Okay, diesel subs weakness is that they need to charge their batteries using their loud diesel engines either while on the surface or just beneath it well using a snorkel They are very vulnerable while doing this Yeah, there's little background people don't know. The more you know on The No Agenda Show Alyssa Milano She's pretty powerful in Hollywood due to her I think her husband who was a big CAA agent? I think

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Alyssa Milano Sex Strike, Alabama Abortion Ban and Roe v. Wade

Actress Alyssa Milano calls for a "sex strike" to protest restrictive abortion laws, specifically the "heartbeat bill" passed in Georgia and a near-total ban in Alabama. The hosts discuss the legal strategy behind the Alabama law, which aims to challenge Roe v. Wade in the Supreme Court. They critique the political theater surrounding the issue and the potential impact on reproductive healthcare access.

alyssa milano· alabama· abortion· heartbeat bill· roe v. wade· sex strike

2:29:58 She is using an oldie but goody, the old Lysistrata trick calling for a sex strike to protest anti-abortion laws. In other words... Let me see I think she has a slogan or logo it's a big pink sign with a big X and where is it? Oh here it is hashtag sex strike Our reproductive rights are being erased until women have legal control over our own bodies. We just cannot risk pregnancy, join me by not having sex until we get bodily autonomy back." That's a bumper sticker!

2:30:41 Huh, this is horrible. Well there's a portal action right now is in the south Georgia of course passes yes The heartbeat bill the heart which is dubious as questionable Dubious it's completely I think it's Yes very lame so and so they ball at Hollywood lot of Hollywood movies are made in Georgia. They have over 1 million square feet of soundstage in Georgia. Yes, perfect! It's huge they have a lot of sound stages and they got a lot of action because they get and the workers are cheaper you know so yeah so they like to make movies there but now I think Spielberg is some other guys that are kind of signed up to do movies

2:31:22 said, well they're going to take their profits from these movies and give them to some rights organizations. They're not actually pulling out completely as some others claim but the super action is in Alabama where they're just gonna make abortions illegal and this is supposed to be the lead into the eventual Supposedly, I don't know what's really going on there. But I have a clip. Oh you have a good good good okay because I have some questions about this let's listen to the clip first Alabama State Senate delayed a vote Thursday on a law that would ban virtually all abortions after a rancorous floor debate that saw lawmakers repeatedly shout in protest The bill would make providing an abortion a class-a felony punishable by up to 99 years in prison

2:32:04 The Alabama Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton objected after Republican leaders sought to remove amendments from the abortion ban that would have allowed exemptions in cases of rape or incest. He made a motion to table. Singleton and other Democrats also protested when Republican leaders attempted to pass amendments on a voice vote, they demanded a roll call so that lawmakers' votes would be put on the record. This is Andrea Miller president of the National Institute of Reproductive Health

2:32:41 I mean the reality is what happened in the Alabama Senate just shows how high the stakes are right now when a state is planning to ban all abortions outright and not only eliminate access to abortion care for people in their state but in an effort to eliminate it for everyone across the country because they hope they'll be the ones who bring the case to the Supreme Court that will overturn or severely eviscerate Roe vs. Wade Yeah, I think they're a long way from doing that with these. Although it's law this heartbeat bill which i read through because I'm very interested in the topic and you know it completely flies in the face of the privacy of Roe versus Wade so I don't think that in actuality it will do much but yeah what eventually happens is the access...you have to go out-of-state and that's definitely a problem

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Unintended Pregnancy Statistics, Education and Cultural Factors

The hosts examine statistics regarding unintended pregnancies and the frequency of abortions in the United States. They question why pregnancy rates remain high despite the availability of effective contraception, citing NIH studies that link the issue to poverty and lack of education. The discussion touches on the impact of the welfare state and cultural dynamics within different demographic groups.

unintended pregnancy· birth control· nih· education· welfare state

2:33:34 I don't know about you, Joe. I'm pro killing people just to be televised that's the only beef i have about it. You put people on death row we kill them great you gotta televise this should be the same but im confused about the numbers We have birth control And it's very effective, 99.9% effective in multiple different kinds of ways and mainly 99% for women deal with the problem after all it is their body I don't understand these high numbers because I looked it up over the weekend about 5% of all women per year

2:34:18 I have an unwanted pregnancy. 40% of those are African-American who represent 6% of the population, so that's very high My question is why... and it's not really answered there's some NIH studies but why do people become pregnant when they don't want to? And i don't even know how to formulate the question It's an unintended pregnancy as in unintended, didn't want to get pregnant, didn't want to have the baby. So is access to contraception too controversial? Not available? Too expensive? Why is this option being chosen with a reasonably high frequency?" I don't know... The only answer I get from the NIH is education. The less educated you are

2:35:14 and the poorer you are, the more chance that you're going to have an unintended pregnancy. I still just don't...I mean so that means education just needs to be better or are there other reasons? It's high! I find this number high and we have so many different ways to stop unwanted pregnancy up front No one has this talk, you know it's all about the baby killing part and the choice or life for whatever but what is the root cause? You don't know either I guess. I don't have a clue yeah but isn't it except for this simple education where people don't care they're careless there's a lot of carelessness or there's just the heat of the moment and who knows I mean it's just...I don't know I'm out of the group that's involved with this

2:36:05 I mean the only thing that i can think about after and really it's in the show notes, to put some study into it of unintended pregnancies. It's surveyed a lot but the answer is all they say as well here are the groups who have it more often but is it possible that we're so shattered certainly the African-Americans who historically, really ever since the welfare state came into being. The real welfare are fatherless families I have this fear that there are a lot of black women who feel like okay when have a child with this guy my baby daddy you know you hear them all talk about baby daddy it's this whole cultural thing and it's not just black but this is where we're hearing

2:36:55 the baby daddy and maybe he'll stay with me, it's almost used like a bond between... A wishful bond and then it doesn't happen. The baby daddy leaves like oh now I want to get rid of the kid That feels like that may be some of it And it can be black or white but just numbers say African-American women 40% of all abortions Now we're just looking at unintended pregnancies I don't know. This is the stuff i'd like to understand maybe, I'm sure we have people in producers who can help us out It's not going to be discussed Well no but we can discuss it if our producers point us in the right direction We could read some producer notes but we have nothing real information Absolutely nothing But yeah other than everyone just going ape shit over this Is there nothing about it in the Mueller report? No I didn't see anything about it in the Mueller report

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Patrick Shanahan, Secretary of Defense Nomination and Boeing Ties

President Trump nominates Patrick Shanahan to serve as the permanent Secretary of Defense after he served as acting chief following James Mattis's departure. The hosts note that Shanahan was cleared of ethics violations related to his former employer, Boeing. They highlight the significance of the role given the escalating tensions in the Middle East.

patrick shanahan· secretary of defense· boeing· pentagon· james mattis

2:37:50 I got another news story that we didn't get any, we have no information. This hasn't been covered by anybody who's our new defense secretary? Do you know what his name is? Isn't it the junior guy who came in to the undersecretary guy? I think it might be. What's the clip? Nice to know, you know this is kind of an important job. What's the clip? Oh yeah new defense secretary President Trump nominated Patrick Shanahan to become the next Secretary of Defense. Shanahan has been acting Pentagon chief since Trump fired James Mattis at the start of the year last month and internal Pentagon ethics investigation cleared Shanahan following accusations he unfairly favored the weapons contractor Boeing where he spent over three decades as an executive

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Matt Taibbi, Hate Inc. and Media Demographic Silos

Journalist Matt Taibbi discusses his book "Hate Inc." on Russia Today with Chris Hedges. The book explores how the modern media landscape is built around "demographic silos" that profit from manufacturing conflict and hatred between groups. Taibbi argues that this system creates political impotence and reinforces prejudices through digital analysis of consumer habits.

matt taibbi· hate inc· chris hedges· russia today· journalism

2:38:37 Yes, I think we talked about him because he was the Boeing guy. We discussed this. I have two clips to media related clips The first one is it's only the intro to an interview with Matt Taibbi. Matt Taibbi...I like a lot as journalist He writes for Rolling Stone or wrote for Rolling Stone and then I think you moved to The Intercept And he's still there. Well, no then he left the Intercept. He left the Intercept? Yeah that's right anyway... Because I actually had a phone conversation with him and I asked him about the intercept thing and you just thought it was just disorganized well maybe it was at the time but seems to be a lot better now yeah you don't know um no you don't Anyway he has a book called... Have you seen Taibbi recently? He does some shaved head with

2:39:27 Unfortunately, it's not shaved. He is looking a little scraggly. It's scraggly yeah that's good word. So there was book out called Hate Inc and I have not read it yet but he went on to the only place you can get on that his news related is on Russia Today. Yeah with Chris Hedges. You can't get anything else And I just wanted to play only the intro that Chris Hedges did before the interview because it kind of neatly sums up what's in the book and i think its going to be an interesting read. Welcome back to part two of our discussion on decay that has beset American journalism with Matt Taibbi, author of Hate

2:40:04 incorporated how and why the media makes us hate one another. Last week we discussed the shattering of the old forms of media manipulation, and the rise of a new media landscape built around demographic silos that sell internecine conflict. The result, Taibbi points out is a bifurcated public that is addicted to hating each other this new media landscape still manufactures consent but by setting group against group, a consumer version of what George Orwell in 1984 called the two minutes of hate. Our opinions and prejudices are skillfully catered to and reinforced aided by detailed digital analysis of our proclivities and habits and sold back to us it is, Taibbi writes packaged anger just for you

2:40:53 The result is political impotence, a fractured and disempowered public crippled by hate and fear. And mesmerized by the fake dissent of the culture wars and conspiracy theories rather than genuine dissent." The moral swamp is fertile soil for demagogues such as Donald Trump, who is a creation of this media burlesque and feeds our emerging corporate totalitarianism. And that's why you should not only listen to but also support the NO Agenda show Because that's exactly what's out there. You don't even have to listen to the interview! That piece itself was very slanted... Of course it was, that's what makes it great. Chris Hedges is a known socialist. Congratulations he should be at Starbucks tweeting from his MacBook So we have the trade war going on another interesting little tidbit was on democracy now which I never heard anyplace else

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

French Arms Sales Protests, Yemen War and Yellow Vests

Human rights activists in France attempt to block a Saudi vessel from loading French-made weapons intended for use in the Yemen war. Simultaneously, the "Yellow Vest" protests mark their 26th consecutive weekend, though turnout has decreased. The hosts criticize Euro News for failing to mention that the original fuel tax protests were tied to climate change policies.

france· yemen· saudi arabia· yellow vests· emmanuel macron· fuel tax

2:41:53 Which is the French are having, you know besides having their yellow vest protest. Which are still ongoing in six months now 26 weeks this is the 26th weekend it's still going Now they got a Yemen protest going on in France In northern France human rights activists are attempting to block authorities from loading French weapons onto a Saudi vessel saying that shipment would be used to kill civilians in Yemen in violation of an international arms treaty I thought we were the A-holes in that deal About 100 protesters turned out Thursday at the port of Le Havre, ahead of the arrival of the Saudi ship as lawyers for two separate human rights groups sued to prevent the shipment. The protests came after a French news site reported French-made tanks and laser guided missile systems were being used by the Saudi led coalition against civilians in Yemen's war

2:42:42 This is Jean-Paul Lecoultre, a member of the French National Assembly who joined Thursday's protest. The war in Yemen is a difficult war. We are turned into supporters of Saudi Arabia and if we the French citizens do not act, if we don't try to stop arms sales, we will end up as accessories to this business. We don't want this. We don't want to be in this situation." I wonder—this is—the French! You know, I give them a lot of props So how was that intertwined? Well actually let me play my yellow vest clip because this is what I heard was going on but maybe the two are intertwined or half of the people went over to the Yemen protest. Heavy rain kept a number of yellow vest demonstrators down in Paris as the movement marked the 26th consecutive weekend of protests

2:43:32 Organizers were hoping to regain the momentum following a record low turnout last weekend. The government says fewer than 19,000 people turned out nationwide although organizers said this was because of major May Day demonstrations earlier in the week, a bid to widen this weekend's protests Big demonstrations were planned in the regional cities of Lyon, Nantes and Toulouse. More than 5,000 people were expected at the Lyon rally called to protest against plans to privatize public services. Saturday's rallies come two weeks before European Parliament elections when more protests are planned

2:44:09 The movement began last November as a protest over planned rises in fuel tax. It grew into a wider campaign of grievances against government policies." Yeah, mind you Euro news is not to be trusted. Notice they don't mention what the tax was about Oh just the fuel tax No it was the climate change fuel tax Yes And so that no longer is mentioned Nobody wants to talk about it I have a climate change thing but I'm going move that over to Thursday Because yeah, it's an interesting theory that I was listening to and I think it might fit a little bit. It'll help us understand more what's going on or what can be done or can't be done. Greta Thunberg now tweeting that we really have to start... We only really have five years? Oh, are we gonna be dead in five years because of climate change? No she says if we don't have substantial things underway in five years then forget your ten-year mark is not gonna happen. She got a PhD in this? What is the deal? She got braids man

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Generic Drug Price-Fixing Lawsuit, Doxycycline and Big Pharma

Attorneys general from 43 states file a lawsuit against 19 generic drug companies, alleging a widespread conspiracy to fix prices. Connecticut Attorney General William Tong cites evidence of price-fixing for hundreds of drugs, including common antibiotics like doxycycline. The hosts discuss how this market manipulation contributes to the high cost of prescription healthcare in the US.

generic drugs· price-fixing· lawsuit· doxycycline· william tong· connecticut

2:45:10 Drug prices rigged to have this clip. Okay, lawyers are crooked The attorneys general of 43 states filed a lawsuit today accusing 19 generic drug companies and more than a dozen executives of price-fixing Generic drugs should cost much less than the brand name drugs they copy but that is not always the case Here's Bill Whitaker of 60 minutes It's an industry wide conspiracy And I think it answers one of the biggest questions all of us are asking which is why are prescription drugs so expensive and I think we know why now because the prices a generic drugs are fixed and there's widespread conspiracy to rig the market. Connecticut Attorney General William Tong says his office found evidence of price fixing by dozens of generic drug industry sales directors, marketers CEOs dating back to 2006 How many drugs were talking about? Hundreds

2:46:07 hundreds of drugs. What kinds of drugs? Every kind of drug that touches our everyday lives I'll give you an example, Bill this is my bottle of doxycycline it is a common antibiotic that I take every day for skin condition and there's conspiracy around doxycycline so sitting here today as the Attorney General in the state of Connecticut on one other victims Doxycycline makes kids nuts doesn't it? No No, it's just tetracycline. Oh newer version antibiotics Okay, all right now kids nuts Give us something happy to leave the show I want

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Chelsea Manning Release, Grand Jury Subpoenas and Show Outro

Chelsea Manning is released from a federal prison in Virginia after 62 days for refusing to testify before a grand jury regarding WikiLeaks. However, her lawyers warn that her freedom may be temporary as she faces a new subpoena. The hosts conclude the episode with final credits, a reminder of the value-for-value model, and a preview of the next broadcast.

chelsea manning· wikileaks· grand jury· whistleblower· virginia

2:46:49 Chelsea Manning's out. I think the manning update nobody talks about her being out of jail Wait a minute, she I saw her on uh i think she was on CNN this morning Was she? Yeah it was an exclusive interview It wasn't that exclusive but okay In northern Virginia Famed U.S. Army whistleblower Chelsea Manning was released from a federal prison Thursday after spending 62 days behind bars for refusing to testify to a grand jury. Manning had been subpoenaed to answer questions about her leak of hundreds of thousands of secret State Department and Pentagon documents to WikiLeaks

2:47:26 including evidence of US war crimes. The grand jury ultimately disbanded Manning's freedom could be short-lived her lawyers said in a statement she will again refuse to testify in response to a separate subpoena Yeah, I'll get the CNN interview for Thursday if there is anything in there Maybe this will show up on a couple other shows Alright everybody We tried to break it down for you The deconstruction should be complete at least what we could bring you today And we return on Thursday, where it's just plain old episode 1138. I think we have a Mother's Day or any other specialties... Although it will be the last one before I get hitched! So we will need to talk about what were gonna do for that show day But THAT will happen on Thursday Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA End of show Credits go to Tom Starkwether and Jesse Coy Nelson Two great mixes

2:48:26 And I'm coming to you from the frontier in Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone Star State, FEMA Region No 6 on all your governmental maps in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley...I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here with no agenda Remember to support us at dvorak dot org slash NA Until then adios mofos and such so I'm a spy. Spy slut! Shake it, not stir it Have you ever heard this one? It was the spy slut that got him involved in being an economic hitman. Spy slut Well her name is Azra Turk which of course is her nom de guerre She was Madame Harry The Dancer The Spy One of the great names Of World War 1 espionage

2:49:34 Spy slut. Now we've heard of honeypots, but spy slut? This is a good one and that's in the business! I like this better. Spy slut. Come on, he needs shaken not stirred. Hey you got that spy slut from Turkey on Degente? I'm a spy... In the panic! Come on man! Powerpoint! Powerpoint! No. Nothing wrong with that Africa is not a asshole country they're not bad folks, folks China if you're listening because the stunt in the circus continues over here why they do that? That the committee will find no conclusion and no collusion because that will be consistent That is NOT conspiracy Because it's done right out in the open I think this is gonna have a happy ending

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