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00:00 Are they hiring people on voice anymore at NPR or are they just hiring anybody? I don't know. Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, May 5th, 2019. This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1135. This is no agenda. Celebrating several Cincos and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where everybody's celebrating Cinco de Mayo. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Wow, is that your Mexican thing? So, very authentic.

00:43 As opposed to what? I don't know. I don't have my guitar. Well, happy Sancto Domingo, Jean-Claude. Or my sombrero. Yes. Yes. Also a bunch of other events today. If you look on the list, it's unbelievable how many things are going on on the day like this. Well, you know, in 1905, this is the 1904 or 05, 1904, the first no, I'm sorry, the first perfect game was pitched by Cy Young. I put that in the newsletter, but since nobody got the newsletter, I thought I'd mention it on the show. Now is this really true? Is this what happened? That people didn't receive... I received it, but of course I don't use Gmail.

01:22 And it was a good newsletter. I think it's a Gmail phenomenon. I think it's MailChimp. I'll tell you why I say that, because of all the different, well there are a lot of people that use Gmail in the background, but it was, I asked and I got note after note after note. No, I looked here, I looked at spam, I looked at trash, I didn't see it. And I wrote all their names down. And there's like dozens. And I'm sure that most people, you know, some people probably didn't even get the second note. But it takes a little effort to, I'm just I'm sure that the names that email addresses I received back saying they never could find it is only a portion because most people aren't even gonna bother. Well I have a theory about it. I might my theory now we were celebrating different Sankos today and my theory is that Theodorables picture broke the internet.

02:10 Yeah. If actually, it could be, but somebody actually came up with a very interesting, a little out there and a little creepy explanation, which I noted might be a possibility. In the caption on his picture in particular, I mentioned bank passwords. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and it was family passwords and bank accounts or something like that. Yes, something like that. And you think that they're going that deep into the content to filter out and that would be dangerous? Or, well I guess it would be seen as spam. Yeah, passwords, bank, hmm. Or at least suspicious. Well... The thing that got me is, man, this kid looks just like you! That's, I couldn't get past that!

03:02 He looks just like my son actually. Ah, dude. He's a little... He does look like me too. He's a mini JCD if I ever saw one. People's mouths fall open when they see that picture of him. Way to exploit him by the way. Gramps, good job. Yeah, well done dude. Much good as nobody gets the email. Well, all right. So it's San Conamayo for Mexico. It is Theodore Bull's... Is it second birthday? Third? Second. Second birthday. You have him on the list, by the way. I never put him on the list. That's interesting. No one put him on the list. The whole Dvorak clan left out Theodore. Abuse the kid for the newsletter, but don't give him any props or anything in the show. So who should I say this is coming from? Is it from Grandpa John? Yeah, you can say that, I guess. What does he call you? He's not a talker.

04:08 Okay, he's not a talker. Yeah, well I'd say as long as he's... the entire time he's not a talker, a talker is probably good. That's what I'm thinking. Once they start, it's all over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is also Liberation Day in the Netherlands, which is celebrated quite largely. It used to be EU day today. I think they've moved that to the 9th. Yes, yeah, they moved it to the 9th. I don't know if anyone actually celebrates it. What do they do on EU day? I don't know.

04:46 It's okay because beer that will be able we'll be able to celebrate it on the next show I believe the 9th is Thursday so it works out perfectly we can still participate in EU day nice and today is also My and the keepers fourth anniversary of our first date. Do you have an anniversary of your first kiss too? It is interesting how Women do keep track of dates mine does and Because actually today was the 15th, but we decided on the 5th. Wait, are you claiming ownership? You said mine. Mine what? Mine what? Are you claiming ownership of this woman? Oh, hell yeah! I put a ring on that. That's when you get to own it. Although, the question is who's really owned here in the relationship. Yeah, we celebrated last night. We went out to dinner for...

05:46 We went to one of our favorite places when we lived downtown, which you can only go to once in a while. It's Truelux. Yeah, I think we talked about it before. Yeah, yeah. It was nice. So yeah, so lots to celebrate today. Congratulations everybody. And I wanted to jump in. with Venezuela for a very specific reason because I received after the last show, I received three separate emails. One was addressed to both of us and John you replied to it. Do you remember when Hillary Clinton's State Department was recruiting and training techno experts?

06:31 Oh yeah, we made a big deal about that on the show. Yeah, she had techno experts in there. That's when the internet in a box was available. That was part of it. And they were training kids all over the world and getting them special techno expert universities. That was eventually handed over to Soros. I have a feeling that we've looked at this attempted coup and pretty much what we said on the last show was, okay, we see what's going on but this is 50s ideas. I said 80s, you correctly took it back to the 50s. They're doing it in a way that is wag the dog style. It's not working. We're not falling for it. Television doesn't work the same. And so now they bring out

07:20 I think the techno experts and for some bizarre reason they've latched on to us which could mean that we're of some importance I don't know we're on I probably think we're just on a list in the State Department but all of these emails were the same except they were from different people and I found this to be interesting So read the... I only got the... well, let's say that I got the one which I responded to and now that you mentioned it, it didn't really make any sense because it was not... Based on anything we said well exactly that's all I but I didn't know if I got the other two you said no No, the other two were just to me So I don't know if you got any individually, but they were only sent to me so the one the one that you replied to was From mine once you read it and read my reply. Oh Okay Well, you don't have your reply handy. No, I'm not ready for this segment. So, okay You should always be ready

08:20 Excuse me, Adam and John, you must correct your stance on Venezuela. You have many donors belonging to the Venezuela diaspora and Trump slash MAGA supporters. You must support President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, Elliott Abrams and John Bolton in seeking freedom and democracy for the Venezuelan people just like you currently enjoy. This is where I'm already like, you're putting all those people into the same list? It's like, and we're supposed to support those those douchebags? Nicolas Maduro is an evil authoritarian dictator who has turned our once wealthy and flourishing country into a basket case. And here comes the common thread. Please watch the video from Dr. Steve Pachanek on YouTube. It is highly educational and informative.

09:03 And there's a link. I'm sure if you change your stance, donations will rapidly increase and will highlight the revolutionary success of the value for value model. Last but not least, as an American, you should genuinely support the dismantling of Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Hezbollah, narco-terror project in Venezuela. And to which you responded... I didn't actually put the response in my show notes, in my show prep, but I have it here somewhere. I thought I did, at least. Well, what would you have said if you couldn't remember what it was? I said that, you know, we're not here. I said, yeah, we don't like the Maduro guy. We never liked Chavez. But we're here to deconstruct news and make news more understandable for the public. And we're not here to promote revolution anyplace. It's not what we do. We're news and analysts, period.

10:02 Exactly. And I left it at that because that's what we do. We don't, we're not here to pound the drum for some operation. But interestingly, interestingly, we, I think we even said, yeah, you know, we see what's going on. We can't have ballistic missiles from the Russians just like the Cuba crisis, too close to us. But Trump should just be honest and say, here's what we're doing. Here's what we're doing about it. So here's the next techno expert. The similarities are interesting. You sir, dearest Adam Curry, you can almost hear the form letter. You sir are misleading your viewers. So this person... Wait, hold on. This is a new one. Yeah, this is a second one. Viewers? Yeah, oh yeah. So they don't even know what the show is. But listen, because it's the same as what you receive. So this person does not know that there's nothing to view, so they've never heard the show.

09:03 And there's a link. I'm sure if you change your stance, donations will rapidly increase and will highlight the revolutionary success of the value for value model. Last but not least, as an American, you should genuinely support the dismantling of Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Hezbollah, narco-terror project in Venezuela. And to which you responded... I didn't actually put the response in my show notes, in my show prep, but I have it here somewhere. I thought I did, at least. Well, what would you have said if you couldn't remember what it was? I said that, you know, we're not here. I said, yeah, we don't like the Maduro guy. We never liked Chavez. But we're here to deconstruct news and make news more understandable for the public. And we're not here to promote revolution anyplace. It's not what we do. We're news and analysts, period.

10:02 Exactly. And I left it at that because that's what we do. We don't, we're not here to pound the drum for some operation. But interestingly, interestingly, we, I think we even said, yeah, you know, we see what's going on. We can't have ballistic missiles from the Russians just like the Cuba crisis, too close to us. But Trump should just be honest and say, here's what we're doing. Here's what we're doing about it. So here's the next techno expert. The similarities are interesting. You sir, dearest Adam Curry, you can almost hear the form letter. You sir are misleading your viewers. So this person... Wait, hold on. This is a new one. Yeah, this is a second one. Viewers? Yeah, oh yeah. So they don't even know what the show is. But listen, because it's the same as what you receive. So this person does not know that there's nothing to view, so they've never heard the show.

10:56 You sir are misleading your viewers and painting a CIA-led conspiracy theory on Venezuela. This behavior is utterly shameful and short-sighted. The Venezuelan people are struggling under a horrific brutal regime where women are raped and children are tortured as political intimidation and retribution. As you have cited numerous times, here it is. Dr. Steve Pchenik is an individual of impeccable standing and credibility in the field of foreign affairs. I hereby refer you to his YouTube video on the matter. Titled Opus 147 Venezuela Coup Slow Start. You will find facts that you should repeat to your viewers on the show this coming Sunday. Hello viewers, pay attention.

11:34 President Trump and his national security team are working diligently and effortlessly to bring peace, tranquility and prosperity to the Venezuelan people. Unfortunately, the illegal Maduro regime and its enablers Russia, Iran, Cuba and Hezbollah stand in the way. We Venezuelan people wholeheartedly welcome and encourage Trump to take the next step. Military intervention, whether in the form of ground troops or precision strikes against the Maduro regime. The suffering cannot continue. Please do not be another enabler of the Maduro communist regime. We witnessed enough of that with Code Pink and Ilan Omar. Your criticism of John Bolton and Elliott Abrams is untoward. Untoward? Wow, who says that anymore?

12:16 Untoward. They have ushered in prospering democracies in Latin America that have replaced totalitarian dictatorships. Best wishes, Rodolfo. So you see the commonalities and then the third one. Dear Mr. Curry, with utmost interest I listened to your show episode 1134 titled Opinion People in which you discuss the crisis in Venezuela. Your views are not acceptable to the Venezuelan people! We are suffering under the vicious dictator Nicolas Maduro who has used our country to provide safe haven to Russians, Cubans, Iranians and Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah. They will use Venezuelan territory to instigate and launch attacks against the United States and its people. This is a threat to you and your family's safety. In highest level of an illegitimate Venezuelan government right-hand man to Maduro is Lebanese Hezbollah operative

13:10 Tarek al-Assam al-Aissami. The New York Times exposed his illegal activities in a bombshell report a few days ago. Link. He has used Venezuelan national resources to prop up Syrian mass murdering dictator who gassed his own people Bashar al-Assad. Till now he sends to Syria Venice oil to prop up Russian puppet Assad. He is formerly ally of... it goes on and on and on. I hope you reconsider and change your tune for your show on Sunday. You must support liberation of Venezuela from crutches of these entities. Bolton and Abrams have the best interest of the Venezuelan people. I suggest you listen to Dr. Steve Pajenek, who supports liberation of Venezuelan people through coup or military action. We understand if Trump must use military and precision strikes against Venezuelan government to liberate us. You have previously stated Dr. Steve is knowledgeable on these matters. Listen to him and repeat on your show!

14:04 Repeat on your show. Mr. Alejandro Vasquez, who is an engineer and techno consult, apparently. So this is coordinated, obviously. The biggest commonality of interest is Pchenik and the Pchenik link. So maybe, I guess Pchenik's running an op. Could be. And these are his people or maybe former. I don't know who it is. Maybe it's Pchenik. He put the one, and if he's really good, he would put one of the emails would say your viewers and make it seem like this.

14:55 Could be. Well, I was kind of happy when I got this. We matter! We matter! We matter in some small insignificant way. Someone cares about what we say. Well, what it says to me is that I wasted my time with my email back to this guy because it went, it not only fell on deaf ears but didn't even go to anybody. This was not there is nothing to respond to on this you can't even get to a back and forth because these are just a barrage. Yeah well three is not a barrage but it could be if it was more of a.

15:34 I'm sure some people get barrages. I think we could get a barrage at some point, but it would be too obvious. The problem with us is that since all we really do is deconstruct stuff, we don't take sides necessarily. I mean, we take some side here and there, but since we're mostly into deconstruction, they can't send us a barrage because it would be too obvious. It was obvious with only three. What are they going to do now? Because we actually read the emails, we actually analyze the emails and we find three sketchy emails that come in pretty much formulaic and we identify them immediately and then report on them. You can't be sending us stuff like this. It appears to me that this is a continuation of their 1950s strategies

16:25 The way they're doing this, I mean, it's not just douchey, it's short-sighted and just dumb. I mean, how are we not going to figure this out? So they take a bunch, someone's taking a bunch of techno experts. Now I personally, I'm thinking our own State Department would do this. I'm sure that's where they have lists of important podcasts. I'm sure Rogan is getting emails and you know, whoever else. If you mention Venezuela in the wrong way, then you get an email from the State Department. But even what they're doing in mainstream, so this is from the BBC, they're still using

17:03 Well in this case I'll say the memes from the 80s to get everybody all riled up. This is a spokeshole for Guaido, Vanessa Neumann, and she's talking to the BBC. Well let's talk to Juan Guaido's representative here in the UK. She's Dr. Vanessa Neumann. Welcome to the program. Yesterday was a disaster for you, wasn't it? No, absolutely not. In fact, we are keenly aware that this is the beginning of a longer-term operation. We know that this is a protest. You do not overthrow a 20-year dictatorship really in one day, especially with a military that is basically the world's biggest drug cartel. And part of the reason why they are not flipping is because they make $8.8 billion a year off the illicit trade, which includes narcotics,

17:49 weapons, gasoline, and the food that they provide to the little bit of food that they provide to the starving people. This is unstoppable. What we do have is that everybody from the middle ranks on down, their families in the military, their families are also starving. Their children are also dying of a lack of medicine. There is still oppression in the barracks. Do not forget that they operate in a state of terror. So we have over a hundred military commanders who have previously attempted uprisings before even the appearance of Guaido in order to come in line with the Constitution. They are being tortured. So we are aware that this is a protest. We are fighting for not just for our freedom, but for our very lives, our compatriots. So we know that this is going. Now, the military, they did not

18:38 fire on us. We have sensed weakness and we know we can take it all the way. She's just not giving up. It's, you know, they're starving us and it's horrible and then you always got to bring this one in. Were you expecting those senior figures to come over to your side yesterday though? And if so, you must be disappointed that they suddenly backed down. Well, I I think that, you know, this is a negotiation. I mean, I think it's a disappointment that our military will not defend the Constitution. We are still engaging them. President Juan Guaido is the constitutional leader. What we have is Maduro is leading a drug cartel, which is the number one provider of narcotics to the United Kingdom, by the way, that won't step aside and let the Constitution happen.

19:25 We continue to do that and we think that eventually they will. We know that they will because they are actually still having those conversations and there's still a plane to take Maduro out. This woman lives in Britain. It's almost like the Syrian observation group or whatever, which is one guy in an apartment. Yeah, pretending to be tweeting from the front lines. So it's incredibly embarrassing. This is getting more hinky by the second. Yeah, do they have any way out? I guess... Are you talking about the guys trying to overturn the government and take over the place and take the drug business for themselves? Well, you say oil, I say drugs. I'm sorry, I don't expect to get any more notes. I don't know. Like I said, we called it what it is. It was a botch.

20:19 And it remains a botch and now they're just making it worse. They have to regroup. So how do I approach Pachanik about this? I gotta call him. I said, dude, did you like send a whole bunch of techno experts to me? Or hey, stop emailing me, Steve. How about that? Hey, stop emailing me. Well, I would believe the following. He doesn't, he's no, he probably has some hint at this. I don't think he's behind it. Because he's got other things to do. He's not interested. I'm sure right I don't think he's ever listened, and he doesn't listen to the show And you should tell him what's going on and that they're using him as leverage to that's the way to him That's the approach right there probably doing this with everybody and it and it's Apparently obvious to you because you saw these messages mm-hmm, then he should do something about it all right I will report back on Thursday if Thursday ever comes and

21:22 It's gonna be a long week you think? I don't know. It's like, you know, you start messing with the techno experts. Techno experts or techno weenies. Did we have a like a clip or something about the techno experts? I'm sure we have something. State techno experts. What's this? Hold on. Oh, that's Clippity Clop. Our next question comes from our Farsi feed at USA Dar Farsi. It's a two part. Let me get to the Newland techno experts on the support dating back. I think it's almost two years now. There was support when Ambassador Ford was still there and he would go out to meet with the local coordinating committees. That's too long. What is this, Hillary, on meddling with, by the way, with stop, stop. There is something, you know, I talk about mill use and identifiable mill use by voices. Yeah, that was Matt Lee.

22:15 No, not him. The woman who did the opening wordage in that clip, has the exact same voice and probably from the same area of if you have the clip of the NPR woman, the voice of the person asking the NPR woman about funding. Okay, that's the hardest clip to find. I always mess it up. So I'll take your word for it. Well, it's this exact same voice. It's the milieu, of course. How about this one? We're doing a lot of work to try to come up with technologies that can circumvent the jamming and the interruptions and the tracking that the regime are engaged in right now.

23:06 you know, is more effective than others to use technology to circumvent internet. It is freedom of speech and being entitled to it. But we have also seen the regime in... Now it's about Iran. Anyway, I can't find it. I should have looked for that earlier. Yes, techno experts. I'll talk to them. We'll see what happens. See if anything pops up. And otherwise, I got nothing. It's like he's being used as he's being used as a tool. But to say that Elliot Abrams and Bolton are good guys, I don't care what pressure you're under. I agree with this. This is just not, no, no, they're just not. No, not in particular. Why Abrams, Abrams is a ghoul. Yeah. He's terrible. Two terrible guys. Yeah.

23:55 But I hope everyone in Venezuela gets what they want. I do. I just want people to no longer be sleeping under I-35. Yeah, it doesn't do you any good, the I-35 problem. Or you. You step out of your car in the morning, you got a needle right next to you. Yeah, or you're stepping in poop. Human poop. Well, a couple of interesting things going on, and I did get a reply. I hated to do it. But I did follow the Miss USA pageant. Oh, I missed it. When was this? I think it was Friday night or maybe... It could have been Saturday or Friday night. Okay, all right, great. So you watched.

24:40 You saw something. You got the highlights, sounds like to me. I couldn't watch because these shows are too long and they're boring and they're dumb. Yeah, but they're always political and the questions are funny and that's why we follow it. That's pretty much all I do. And the thing was, there was an overlaying... I don't know how to explain it, but there was an overlay. to the event and the overlay consists of something going on in the Bay Area and I believe it's going on all across the country and it's called natural hair. Nat, this is a movement? Yes, big time. Let's listen to Nat SB 188, one of our California state senators introducing bill, Senate Bill 188 to address this problem. Senate Bill 188 by Senator Mitchell, an act relating to discrimination. Senator Mitchell.

25:34 Thank you very much, Madam President. Colleagues, today I'm presenting SB 188, the Crown Act, the goal, the act to create a respectful and open workplace for natural hair. The purpose of introducing this bill and bringing it before you today is really twofold. First, to help dispel myths and educate those of you who need it about the unique qualities of black hair, its texture, and the black hair experience. Secondly, it's to challenge common-held myths about what constitutes professionalism in the workplace. Until very recently,

26:11 A Google image search for, quote, unprofessional hairstyles yielded only pictures of black women with their natural hair or wearing braids or twists. Although disheartening, this fact was not very surprising. Eurocentric standards of beauty have established the very underpinnings of what was acceptable and attractive in the media, in academic settings, and in the workplace. And so even though African Americans were no longer explicitly excluded from the workplace, black features and mannerisms remained unacceptable and quote, unprofessional. Until recent decades, black men and women didn't often challenge these standards. They donned their wigs or straightened their hair with harsh chemical relaxers to meet those Eurocentric standards. Some people believe that this is an issue of the past.

27:09 that we're beyond such outright discrimination based on appearance. Yeah, I think I saw this or an article not about I didn't know it was a that they did I don't if it passed but I didn't know there was a law they were looking into. This passed 37 zipped. And so meanwhile all across the country there are stories like this this is the Nat hair girl in Lake County. to change her locks. They had a problem with her natural hair. Fox 35's Daniel Lama is live on this one. She's in Lake County with her story. Daniel, what's the problem here? Well guys, we started looking into this story when a mom called us upset. Her straight A student was being singled out because of her hair.

27:53 We started making phone calls to the school. Mom had a meeting and tonight there's a new dress code policy here at Mon Verde Academy. People say they love my hair because it's so diverse and curly and Afro-centric. 16 year old Nicole Orr says she's known for her hair but she never thought she would be singled out in school. school because of it. I received a call saying that my daughter needed to get her hair done and she wears her hair natural and I was kind of taken aback by it. Her parents say a school administrator contacted them and said this violated their dress code. She literally felt that, wow what's wrong with my hair? The Caucasian girls are able to wear their natural hair straight, why can't I wear my natural hair the way that it grows? They were referred

28:41 referred to the handbook where one line in particular stood out. It said dread like hair. And so that could be ambiguous and it could give you latitude to target a certain person or a certain group. Oh brother, is this all in California? I believe this would be going on everywhere and I think it's part of a bigger movement and it was confirmed as important because Miss USA coincidentally has natural hair. Okay. She's got that boobs, just it's such a, this hair, her hair, it's, it's done. It's not as though it's just sticking out everywhere. So it's quite attractive on her and she's a beautiful woman. She was one of the prettiest girls and, and made it clear to us over and over referring to the fact that she's a lawyer.

29:35 This is a Chelsea Christ from North Carolina? Yes. Yeah? It looks like Diana Ross had this hair for a while in the late 70s, 80s. Yeah, and so it's a natural, it's not a fro. No. It's just the hair is just hanging all over the place and attractively in this woman's case, but it's been cut and trimmed and made to look the best it could. But it's part of a bigger scheme because all these things are incremental. You don't just make a big fuss about something that's obviously something you don't need to make a fuss about, but they do it anyway. And so there's bitching and moaning about this natural hair and they have the students, and I'm sure there's

30:13 Other people can find stories around the country that have this situation occurring. But this is a movement, I noticed this some years ago, and they started too big and they pulled back and disappeared and they're deciding to go with it. Where were these social justice warriors when I got fired once for my hair from MTV? They hired me back, but they fired me because I wouldn't cut it. You wouldn't cut it or you wouldn't cut the hair? I would not cut... Come on. Yeah. So anyway, we wouldn't cut the hair. The social justice worries weren't out there. Now, the thing that I picked up on this a long time ago, what this is really about is to start to increment because the initial attempt in California was about, it was during our show era, but it was early on and it was an attempt to end all discrimination against appearance.

31:12 And this was for people who would go into a job interview with spikes in their face and face tats and hidden camera stuff. Ear gauged ears, so they had a big hole in their head. I mean, the whole, they were horrible looking people. And so they were going for anti-discrimination laws and nobody was buying it because employers weren't going to hire these people, especially if they were front facing. In other words, they were going to be at a counter or something like that. And I go into a donut shop and I see some guy with gauged ears and a bone in his nose. Does it make you not want the donut? Does it not make you want the donut? I don't want the donut. I will not buy the donut.

31:57 Wait, you're incredibly bigoted Mr. Dvorak. You won't buy the donut because someone's got a blown out earlobe? If a guy's creeping me out I'm not buying the donut. So they backed off on this idea, because they went too far right away. And I believe that this natural hair thing is an increment, and they're gonna start to move forward again with it in mind that long term, you have to hire somebody who's got holes in their ears and bones in their nose and a lot of other things.

32:32 But we're already like maybe some of the one guy in Oakland's got a couple of horns that he had implanted into his brain into his skull I've seen this guy and he's and he's painted his face red. So he looks like the devil you have to hire him That's what this is about Well, yeah, of course if he's talented you gotta hire him I mean if it's a front I can see the issue if it's a customer facing job But I guess they're going after exactly that, huh? That's what they're going for. And it's just gonna take a while. But let me just say, it's not the same as your hair comes out of your head as it comes out of your head. The horns don't naturally come out of the head. So that's, it's not exactly a natural thing. I'm just telling you, this is what this is. It's untoward, I tell you. This reminds me of us marketing tricks. I mean, in a lot of

31:57 Wait, you're incredibly bigoted Mr. Dvorak. You won't buy the donut because someone's got a blown out earlobe? If a guy's creeping me out I'm not buying the donut. So they backed off on this idea, because they went too far right away. And I believe that this natural hair thing is an increment, and they're gonna start to move forward again with it in mind that long term, you have to hire somebody who's got holes in their ears and bones in their nose and a lot of other things.

32:32 But we're already like maybe some of the one guy in Oakland's got a couple of horns that he had implanted into his brain into his skull I've seen this guy and he's and he's painted his face red. So he looks like the devil you have to hire him That's what this is about Well, yeah, of course if he's talented you gotta hire him I mean if it's a front I can see the issue if it's a customer facing job But I guess they're going after exactly that, huh? That's what they're going for. And it's just gonna take a while. But let me just say, it's not the same as your hair comes out of your head as it comes out of your head. The horns don't naturally come out of the head. So that's, it's not exactly a natural thing. I'm just telling you, this is what this is. It's untoward, I tell you. This reminds me of us marketing tricks. I mean, in a lot of

33:26 marketing strategies that you start with the hardest thing to do, and that's what they did when they tried to make it so you can't discriminate against people because of their appearance. And so that failed, because if that went through, then what's the point of doing anything else? Who cares, it's all done. But that wasn't gonna happen because it just doesn't make any sense. And so now they're backing off and they're gonna increment things and see how far they get. And so they... And who is they? They it's they it's the days. Okay, it's days. It's the politically correct elites I guess leets but it's a certain group of them. I don't know what their point is, but let's go back to Miss USA and here we have We have a natural hair winner

34:13 Uh, this woman from North Carolina who just goes on every chance she gets, she says she's a lawyer or law firm. She said was one of her quotes. Okay. Now I looked at the women as they came out and picked my one, two, three, four, five, six or seven of the ones I thought they were the prettiest. And they all got into the top 15 except for Alaska who may have been, she's kind of, it has exaggerated features. I may have been, uh, She's just too much like a she looked like an exaggerated Elizabeth Berkeley if anybody remembers that actress and Miss Kentucky who should have been

34:53 called up and she was dumped. And then when they brought the top 15 out, I thought the best, the one that should have been the winner or the best one was the blondie from Florida who I thought was very pretty. But she got kicked at the end where they had no whites. It was... That was an all black finals? No, one Latina who made a big point of it. And then... Was she also a lawyer? One Latina, one woman who was black and Chippewa or something. She's a very strange looking combination of people. And then Miss North Carolina, who was a beautiful woman and could have won any competition, but they were obviously not going to let her compete with everybody. But because she had the natural hair, there was two women, two black women that had natural hair. And this one was the one that there was going to be picked.

35:49 Needless to say, I felt the thing was semi-rigged. Gee, imagine that. So we had the one Mexican and two blacks at the end as the three finalists. They had five finalists and then they eliminated two of them. I don't know why they do it this way, but they did. Now, I have a procedural parliamentary inquiry, procedural question. Was this the year where they had no bathing suits? No, they had bathing suits. Miss USA, not Miss America. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, my mistake. All right, good. Well, let's get into it. I have some commentary on the best figure. Oh yeah, I thought Miss Florida handled herself the best in the bathing suit too.

36:36 Miss Ohio got in, who for a while, and it was a top 15, and she looked like Savannah Guthrie. And then in one view, she looked a little like Mickey. I should remind everybody that we do this from a television production standpoint and not an old douchebag white guy who's sitting in his croc standpoint. Yeah, we do it from a very objective perspective. Particularly because it's political. Well, that's the thing that this was the worst case scenario, because in this case, over the years we've noticed they've been slipping in more and more and more political questions, hoping that people spew some sort of left-wing message. That's my belief. And this year was all, I have all five questions, they're short, I cut them way down so you only have the, you don't have the intro, and Mr. U, Arkansas, come on, hello! And I killed all that, and

37:36 We have the five questions and answers that I got, so these are short. And then I have the Miss North Carolina's answer to the last question where they asked the same exact question. This is pretty, this by the way amused me to no end. So they got the question at the end with the three girls and they're gonna ask the same question. So they put a headphones on them and as soon as they said they were gonna do that I said, holy crap, how are they going to do this with Miss North Carolina? With her natural hair. Her hair.

38:11 It was, there was, you couldn't, I don't know if you'd be able to foot between the headphone and her head because of this hair. So it was basically a racist thing for them to even suggest. Well I think there wasn't in fact, but the solution was simple. Bring her out first. You never put the headphone on. That's the way to go. Perfect, perfect. Very innovative. All right, so let's listen to some questions here, starting with Miss USA Arkansas. Okay. All right, your question is, America is one of the most racially diverse countries in the world, yet it is also one of the most racially divided. Why do you think this is?

38:57 Well, I think diversity is one of the most unique things about our country and it's one of the most special and we should cultivate that. We shouldn't be divided. We shouldn't look at our fellow contestants, our fellow man and say, you aren't like me, so I don't like you. You don't look like me, so I am racist against you. We should come together and and involve everyone in our lives. I think these 51 contestants that have stood up here tonight represent our country so well because they are so diverse. And I think that that is exactly what we need in our world. We need to celebrate our diversity. I'm racist against you. You don't look like me, so I'm racist against you.

39:43 I'm going to say, Hey, don't be racist on that man on that mofo. Don't look at me. So I'm a racist against you. So she was the one white girl in the five and she was the disquestion even though voter out, she's done. He'd done. She was done. And it was like, that was the end of her. And she was going on and on about diversity. But this was, you would notice this message was also in the report about The natural hair which we played earlier where hair is diversity according to the girl wearing this crazy hair Of course it is hair is diversity now. Okay. Well, whatever so let's go to Miss USA Nevada's question

40:25 So your question is, in October, my friend Kelsey Quayle was fatally shot while innocently driving to work. In your opinion, what is the largest contributing factor to the high rate of gun violence in our nation? Oh God, can I take this one? Can I answer this one? You won't quite get it right because the girl pulled a switcheroo on the question. I'm expecting her to say the problem is guns because guns kill people. Duh. I think that what contributes to the high rate of gun violence is the availability to all of the weapons. I think there has to be another look into the gun reform and we have to consider mental health in this situation as well because

41:12 This is not just about guns. This is about what is going on in the in the minds of these people. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Yes. So she starts off with the right answer by gun reform, even though or the gun, gun something, the gun reform. And soon she says mental health for some reason. I think this applause sign went on too late. And it sounded as though they're applauding her mention of mental health. I think they are applauding her. I think they're applauding mental health. Well, maybe their point of the case was, you know, she was on one track and she changed tracks. She's like, oh my god, I'm on the right track. So dropping the gun availability issue, she went on and on about mental health and I thought that was hilarious. But I also think that's the right answer for this crowd. That is what the diverse social justice warriors want to hear because you get it, therefore the person who uses the gun to kill people is also a victim, you see.

42:12 Right another look into the gun reform and we have to consider mental health in this situation as well because Or maybe just someone walked by like Jack Nicholson or something This is not just about Guys this is about what is going on in the in the minds of these of these of these people It's definitely a mental health issue it's not just at any point was there steam coming out of her ears when she was trying to answer the question was like little plumes of smoke I wouldn't say dingbat

43:01 No, that'd be very rude. She was acute and she was trying to get the answer out. I think she just was confused. Did anyone have a question about Trump? Come on. I don't think there was a direct question about Trump. Let's go to USA Miss New Mexico. The 2020 election is right around the corner. What is one issue you would like all candidates to address and why? Well, being from a border state and being born and raised in a border city, immigration is something that is very important to me. This is not a black and white issue, and that is why we need to have discussions and continue to listen to each other. I think that there's so many people out there wanting the American dream, and my parents immigrated here from Monterrey, Mexico.

43:53 And I am their representation of their American dream. Thank you, New Mexico. Where was this held? This event? I think it was in Vegas or Reno. Okay. All right. It may have been Reno. That's a safe, safe answer. Safe, safe, safe. Yeah, it was okay. She was pretty. And then we have now yet there's got to North Carolina here. You don't want to play the final question. I'm gonna play Miss USA North Carolina. That's this is the winner and this is her answer to these these this dumb series of questions which were asked by by the losers by the way before before we move on now do they have judges in the On the panel are the judges. Yeah, there are judges who was that who were the judges? Oh

44:39 I don't know. So your question is... The only one that matters is you, John. I'm just asking out of formality. What difference does it make? They're just a bunch of schlubs and they're given a script. I mean, they're not judging anything. So your question is, for the past two years, the hashtag MeToo and hashtag TimesUp have dominated our national conversation. However, some believe it has only deepened the divide between men and women. Have these movements gone too far? I don't think these movements have gone too far. What Me Too and Time's Up are about are making sure that we foster safe and inclusive workplaces in our country. As an attorney, that's exactly what I want to hear and that's exactly what I want for this country. I think they're good movements. Thank you, North Carolina.

45:27 Yeah, yeah, that's sad kind of, but maybe it's good for women. When the talent portion of the competition is you're a lawyer, because that's really what it is. I mean, it used to be, oh, I can twirl a baton. Oh, I can dance. I can play a piano. I'm a ventriloquist. But now you just show up, you're a lawyer. I think you kind of got a couple steps ahead right there. Oh, she was milking it too. Oh, fantastic. Good honor. Her law firm she mentioned earlier. What kind of law does she practice? Did we learn that? We never found out. I'm sure a wiki page will determine that. But that answer, you know, it's just a... She's an attorney. She's going to be quicker on her feet than most of them. And so the last question comes up and I didn't record all of them. It was not

46:20 It was not that interesting, but I did record the winners of North Carolina's answer to the last question, which everybody got asked, not everybody, but the three finalists got asked. And this is, and that was Oklahoma, New Mexico, and North Carolina, all Southern states or states South. And this is the question and this is her answer. And it was, you know, meh. Here's your question. Millennials are often labeled as entitled, but they've also been called one of the most socially conscious generations in decades. What is one word you would use to describe your generation and why? I would say that my generation is innovative. I'm standing here in Nevada, in the state that has the first majority female legislature in this entire country.

47:12 Mine is the first generation to have that forward-looking mindset that has inclusivity, diversity, and strength and empowered women. I'm looking forward to continued progress with my generation. Thank you, North Carolina. Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, I can see why she was good except for the fact that the majority women legislature in Nevada is not Millennials but okay she'll take credit for it like Millennials do. I was thinking I'll take credit for it if you know like you said I'm the judge here. Last night I realized that we are now into our second generation of producers on this show.

47:53 We're 11 years, but didn't we just, didn't we educate an entire generation and now we're taking on their younger, their younger siblings or who else, who else is coming now? Well, we're hoping. So that was that. So now, so now is she going to leave her law practice and go on the tour and speak to children and particularly young girls around the world? Is that, is that what she's going to do? Is that the... Well, let's see. Be honest about she's a beautiful woman with a lot of potential for media. She's gonna be on TV. She's gonna be on TV so quick. Actually, there was at least I would say at least 10 women throughout the competition that are just got

48:41 anchor woman written all over me, you know, news reader. I mean, just so obvious. News model, we tend to call that. News model. So, spokesmodel. And so they have, so she, so let's go over this and analyze your question by asking. So you have this woman that's set and she's actually more, less media, more movies. That's what, you know, she has that look of a movie actress. Uh, and she has a choice of going on the road and, and showing, you know, herself to just various groups and practicing, uh, being in front of large audiences or she could stay at her law firm and drudge away on a day to day basis going over paperwork and contracts. Yeah. I think I'd, I'd love to be on CNN all day.

49:34 Well, maybe she could replace Joy Reid. I don't think so. She's got bigger things. She's not going to be at that level. She's networked. You could tell she's... She could end up on Fox because she's a lawyer. PBS needs her in the News Hour. Where did Gwen? We lost Gwen Ifill. We need someone good. Yeah, but they replaced her with this Yamiche woman. Yeah, that's not good. El Ciandor. Or Conquistador. And she, they're not gonna, I don't know if they have to deal with her. She's very amateurish and she should be out. And this woman doesn't look like a news type. She really looks like she should be an actress in the Hollywood, period. Well, speaking of natural hair, I watched the Knock Down the House documentary on Netflix.

50:27 which is an award-winning Sundance documentary, I might point out, which features the four social justice Democrats and how they were picked and how they were trained. And it's their own footage. And they're very proud of how they did it. I recommend everybody watch it. Amy Vilella, Cori Bush, Paula Jean Swearingen, they didn't win. And also they've really cut down their pieces significantly in this documentary. But AOC, wow! It proves you really can take someone who's standing behind a bar and you can put them in the US Congress. And it was well done.

51:10 And it was emotional. I always get emotional by achievement, so I like that. The thing that really struck me though... And this comes back to the natural hair. It starts off and she's in her... I think it's a hotel room, I don't think it's her apartment, a hotel room and she's doing her makeup in the morning and she's talking about how it's so easy for men because they just throw on a suit and tie and they're done with thanks. No, that's not true, but okay, so you believe it. And women have to put on their makeup. And so she was completely without makeup and

51:46 John I got to tell you with the with the long hair and her Latin, you know features I Had I did a double take she looked just like Christina's ex-boyfriend Juan from Los Angeles. It was uncanny completely different Just like one I'm like that's one who has the same law and Juan is you know, he's like 30 in LA He's going nowhere loves wrestling. Yeah No wonder Christina dumped him But he's a great guy, he's a sweet guy and very talented artist but does nothing with it. But anyway, he's just... I was like, this is Juan. She looks like a man? Is that what you're telling me? Yeah, to me. Yeah, without her makeup. It's very, very different.

52:28 Anyway, now you really understand that when she's got her notes and when she's following the program and her training, it's her script, then she's, you know, it's fine. And the minute she goes off, she loses the plot. But she's, yeah, you can see how this works. It's great. And they had some money. I don't know who the Justice Democrats, they had money. to get this going. I'm sure they have a lot more, but it's... They have a lot more now. They didn't have that much then. No, they had a little. They were the headquarters in Kentucky, but there were 20 people on the payroll getting stuff done. I'm sure a lot of it's borderline chief and volunteer. Very, very... Yeah, of course. Very impressive though. I was impressed. It's an impressive operation. There's no doubt about it.

53:14 Deplorable but depressed but it's I don't know if it's a floor and it was deplorable and doesn't bother me. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about the purge for a moment. I am very happy to report that NPR is whenever it's about anything from Silicon Valley. Even if it's a political conversation about who's being de-platformed this week. They love to bring in their Millennials This one's kind of special though Paris Martineau covers social media and internet culture for wired magazine and joins us from our studios in New York So exactly who who are we talking about who was banned? Yeah, so on Thursday afternoon Facebook banned six

53:56 High-profile extremists and one conspiracy theorist site. Hold up. Hold up. High-profile extremists? This is good! Laura Loomer is a high profile extremist? Is she? Apparently. I mean, she's one of the six that got... She's an extremist in what realm? Is it a political realm? Is it a military realm? Is it a social... High profile extremists. Facebook band six.

54:32 high-profile extremists and one conspiracy theorist site that includes inflammatory figureheads in the far right like Laura Loomer, Infowars' Alex Jones, and Paul Joseph Watson, as well as white supremacist Paul Nellen and radical Muslim preacher Louis Farrakhan. So President Trump and other conservatives have accused various social media companies for censoring right-wing opinions. That woman, she's talking too fast. Well, they're both kind of did. The one from Wired is almost doing an ASMR recording.

55:14 And then the other one just blasted past her. Trump and other conservatives have accused various social media companies for censoring right-wing opinions. Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos, Louis Farrakhan, they've been around for a long time. So why is Facebook doing this now? So a Facebook spokesperson told me that the company has always banned individuals and organizations that promote or engage in violence and hate regardless of ideology. But the people and organization banned Thursday were just as extreme and peddled just as much misinformation and hate. a year ago as they did Thursday. What's been the fallout from this? The fallout has largely been the people protesting their ban. There was a bit of a snafu in the fact that Facebook kind of seeded a number of media outlets on Thursday afternoon with this story in advance. I'm going to stop this for a second. Here's what's interesting about this.

56:07 There was no official press release, no written word from Facebook about this at all. And it went around really fast because this so-called snafu where they seeded some press, I think Atlantic and a couple others, maybe Wapowapo, Wapowapo. And they said, well, here's what's going down, here's what's gonna happen. But they hadn't knocked those people off yet. So they were just letting everybody know ahead of time that they were going to be kicked off and so and that was under embargo because of course you know the willing media is very willing to sit on that. I will wait under embargo until you kick them off. I'm still reporting. Exactly the way they act. I know, I know. Now I live with a communications expert.

56:58 And she says, this is bogative. That would be the keeper. This is bogative. That's no snafu. They're trying to be relevant because, I'm quoting now, because all Facebook is now is old people and non-profits, which I thought was pretty good analysis. And they're just trying to show that they are Clean as a whistle for whatever may be lurking behind this. I'm sure there was not some horrible outrage that ensued over Laura Loomer or whatever she might have posted or Paul Joseph Watson. Paul Joseph Watson. I've heard his material. It's just a complainer. I can't even watch him. It should be thrown off because it's not entertaining. How about that? I'm with you on that Facebook. Let's listen to the rest of this. And there was a bit of a snafu in the fact that

57:49 Facebook kind of seeded a number of media outlets on Thursday afternoon with this story in advance, then struggled to actually take down the accounts at the time the media outlets published the story, allowing these extremist figureheads to publish on their soon-to-be-banned Instagram accounts. Follow me on the other platform. So is this, I mean, is this setting a precedent? Are we going to see Facebook continue to ban accounts? And who makes those decisions? Those are all great questions. I think that... No they're not. Facebook is, like Facebook often does, going to do whatever it wants and it'll be interesting to see how it continues to apply this going forward, whether it'll stick with it. Okay. All right. Thank you. Ms. Volk and Fry, thank you for your time. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your fry.

58:40 I have some thoughts about this. Do you have any thoughts about why this is taking place? Why they've done this seemingly for no real issue? Oh, I mean if I don't have any serious thoughts, I have some unserious thoughts like maybe this is a prelude for the 2020 elections. They want to keep anybody who might interfere with the litany with the West Coast liberal bias. You don't need this kind of aggravation, people questioning authority. I don't know. Well, Zuckerberg has been calling for regulation for a while. He said now it's time for the government to regulate the Internet. So I'm thinking, all right, he's setting, he's planting a flag, but maybe, you know, MasterCard has been, I think they're holding a shareholder vote.

59:36 to determine whether MasterCard should have a program in place that can cut off payments for far right on the political scale. Facebook is also trying to do a, they want to do a currency, a crypto currency. And they're looking, I think they were looking to do like a billion dollar coin offering or something like that. Yeah, one billion. And they've been talking to a lot of banks and maybe they're talking to MasterCard. I don't know. To me, this feels like a corporate move in a regard like there's something they want to do that they want to make sure they don't have. It's like brand safe to the extreme, let's put it that way. Why don't they do it in general, though? I mean, there's some very abhorrent

1:00:26 people on Facebook and Twitter for that matter who are on the left. I would say how does Karl Reiner continue to spew his venom on Twitter? It makes no sense to me. Well, then the only other one brand say for the left and me what you is just to encourage Democrats to advertise there. I'm not sure where I would get it. Well, I was talking more about if you're involved, everybody wants to be all Silicon Valley companies that ultimately have one final goal. Apple is getting there. They want to be your bank.

1:01:02 And Apple I think is pretty far along. Google has their initiatives. Facebook has been looking at this for a long time. They all want to control. And whether they're really your bank or whether just controlling your purchase mechanism. They're taking a piece of the action. Right, but they want to be a much, much, much bigger player. Where else are they going to go? They already have your information. The only data they don't actually have 100% access to is the data in your bank account. They want to control that too. That's in their DNA. That's what these companies do they need to grow? I don't get you're not making it you're not connecting the dots. Yeah I'm connecting the dots between... That will make more sense after I play the Mexican waters. Hold on, I'm connecting the dots by saying Mastercard which is an important player and anyone who's going to do anything with any type of money will have to deal with Mastercard online. They're talking about

1:01:53 having a committee that can de-platform users from even using their transaction system. Facebook wants to do transactions, maybe they're prepping for some kind of big deal. That's what I'm talking about. I understand that part of your argument. I just don't understand why does it have to be a bunch of right-wingers? or borderline right wingers are just goofballs like Laura Loomer who loomerizes people and makes fools out of them and interrupts public meetings to make some valid points, I think in many cases. I don't get it. Why just them? Well, they also kicked off Farrakhan, so you know that was exactly... Farrakhan was an obvious choice to assuage the right. Oh, we got rid of Farrakhan too. Who else? Who else did you get rid of besides Farrakhan? Nobody. We'll see. And when you compare it to like Paul, like to Watson,

1:02:47 And Loomer, I would put both in the categories. It's like they're not promoting hate or weirdness or anything, it seems to me. Watchtun just complains and Loomer just tries to make fools out of people. That's my theory. I don't even think of Alex Jones as much more than a really entertaining guy. So what's your theory? I don't have one. Okay. All right. My theory is they're just trying to stop right-wing debate. Or they're just trying to prove to... It's virtue signaling to the douchebags in Silicon Valley who, for some unknown reason, over the last 20 or 30 years have gone... Become left-wing. They've only become left-wingers and I don't get it. That must be very disturbing to live there and see that happen. It was extremely disturbing, but more of a quizzical thing.

1:03:39 Wait a minute. How did this happen? I mean, I know some of the reasons for it. I mean, John Doar is one of the number one Democrat supporters and a big promoter of this to the point where he calls people out and he gets into arguments with them. Is he still a big deal in Silicon Valley even after all these failures? It's the money. Including my company? Well, he's not the big deal he once was. And so far as venture capital is concerned, they don't turn to him. But when it comes to politics, which is where he resides now, I mean, he's the one who brought Al Gore into the company. He's the one who was promoted to Green New York. Bono. Bono. Bono and Green, Green, Green. Let's invest in Green. That's where the money is. I mean, that was a huge... Green tech. Green tech.

1:04:32 It goes back to if anybody wants to chide, I don't even know if anybody still at Kleiner Perkins knows about the snowblower fiasco of years earlier. The snowblower, I don't even know the snowblower fiasco. Yeah, apparently they funded some, but they thought it was gonna be the future of something. All I remember, it's vague now, but it's invested millions and millions into some snowblower company that somehow attached a snowblower to a bicycle. and clear the sidewalks or something. I don't remember. I mean, I know that they, I think they participated in the first, the Segway. I remember that. Oh, the Segway. They were all in on the Segway. They were all over on the Segway. But what was the snowman? In fact, for a while, everybody in the offices had a Segway.

1:05:22 I never saw anybody driving around, but they all had a Segway and they all have these big glassed in offices and each one had a Segway plugged into the wall as if they were going to use it. You're so right. And then when they got the $500 million, that was Ray Lane, he got the $500 million from the government to support Fisker, which went up in literal smoke. Everybody was driving Fiskers. And plugging them in they may got a plug in my $300,000 car. Yeah. Yes. I had you be I guess the moral of the story is You would be surprised how the people who fund a lot of companies and men really run what goes where? how inadequate and stupid they are yeah, well they made a

1:06:19 The money is made on the leverage with a very few companies that just skyrocket in value and it makes everybody filthy rich just by the shake of the dice. It's just... They didn't even get in on Google. They had to buy in because they missed the boat. They missed the boat. So they could take credit for it. Everybody, I noticed this too. It's like, I know when Google started and then all of a sudden as it starts to go public, all these guys buy in at the highest prices so they could say they were part of the founding. Yeah, it was I'd heard that whole story from I think maybe from John Doerr who told me like where they had to do the deal with this some deal was happening and they weren't in on it and then they called it was you got it we got to be in on this deal and then they did this at 3 in the morning so they still had a piece of it because it would be too embarrassing it's where were you guys when Google happened yeah kind of thing exactly

1:07:12 Well with that Jean-Claude, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Mailchimp, Jean-Cy-de-vore! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, sons in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to everyone in the troll room. Noagendastream.com is where you can troll to your heart's content. You can do it with your other fellow trolls, come in as a lone troll, whatever you need! And we love it because I get my one-liners, I get corrected, get information, and sometimes it's just fun to be trolled. Thank you. NoagendaStream.com, merci beaucoup. Also in the morning to Woody. I do not believe Woody has ever scored a pick for album art. No, he's done a couple over the... He's done four.

1:08:01 No, that's more than a couple. That's several. Done several over the course of his career and nailed it with the bar bunch in the Brady Bunch montage. For episode 1134, that episode was titled Opinion People. And it was just good. I mean, it's a classic. We've had them similar to this before, but you can't go wrong with bringing in all of the nut jobs and bar and call it the bar brunch. It was fun. Good. We appreciate it, Woody. Thank you very much. Noah ArtGenerator.com. which thanks Paul for keeping that thing fresh up and running. It's part of our value for value model and people doing stuff, you're all producers. And truly a fascinating, we're such a, we're a global group. I was looking at some of the meetup pictures and looking at the list of meetups. What we've achieved here, not you and I, but with everybody, it's pretty phenomenal when you think about the talent

1:09:03 the knowledge that people have. I mean, it goes from six-year-olds, well, nine-year-olds to retired marine colonels. We've got doctors. We've got a ton of big pharma people who are giving us their boots on the ground reporting. It's just so much. I don't think anyone can really get to where we've got. There's no shortcut, let me put it that way. And I know, I speak on behalf of John, we appreciate it. especially those who support us financially, in particular when it's difficult even to get a reminder out because you do have to do that in this value for value model. You have to remind people you have a show, remind people that we need to be supported, and those who can do. And so people did come in, some people did receive the message, and we're going to thank them right now. As our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1135, 1135,

1:09:58 Well, considering it's Cinco de Mayo, we only got four, or four, what am I saying? We got three, one executive producer and two associates, so it's not gonna be a long segment except for the fact that these people are long-winded. Dave Duncan starts us off from Orem, Utah, $333.33. And he says, heads up, he wants a Sharpton montage and some karma. Here's a bevy of threes for you. Thanks you both for the best podcast in the universe according to the Mueller report. And many years of sanity you have imparted. I don't care to ingest much news anymore, but when I do, I view it through the no agenda lens, which dramatically reduces the anxiety it would otherwise cause. A big shout out to Mike,

1:10:44 uh, Scalera that's Sir Mike Knight of the gigaverse to you for repeatedly hitting me in the mouth many years ago, even when I quit listening after trying a few episodes, two shows back, you mentioned the Mormon CIA, never Trump or a connection as a Utah Mormon who graduated from BYU. I took particular interest in your Mormon CIA, never Trump or deconstruction. Mormons have a strong sense of patriotism and are short on, on devices which can compromise many agents. No drinking, no drugs, no extramarital sex. That's interesting. Of those, the CIA only refers to one. No drugs. That's correct. It's true. Which leads to heavy recruiting at BYU by the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA.

1:11:35 As a bona fide prudes, it's easy for Mormons to dislike Trump. I thought I was a never-Trumper for a while. I got better. Well, I still dislike Trump personally, not to mention his past womanizing. I'd take him over fellow Mormons backstabbing, flip-flopping hypocrite Mitt Romney or spy Hillary supporter Evan McMullin any day. Mike Lee, however, seems to be gaining some respect for Trump. Note the past few seconds of Mike Lee's CPAC speech last year.

1:12:13 Quote I say bring it on. Let's roll. Let's keep making America great again It was well, you know, I have somebody else wrote me another I had a couple Mormons write me and And time one of them was very concerned because he was convinced that Mike Lee Was a huge Trump supporter and I had to brief him on Mike Lee's anti-trump nature and then he's and then he cited his Twitter feed and I said, if you read his Twitter feed, which I did, it's really just very, he's a very pro Republican. And so at some point he has to support the president and that's as far as it goes.

1:12:52 Anyway, I note the last few goes on anyway. Thanks for the sanity at love and L Sharpton montage of some karma Dave Duncan or I'm Utah Oh 73 is K F7 UWL yes, or as he puts a kilo Foxtrot 7 uniform whiskey Lima Dan and in the morning to you 73 is kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie. Thank you very much for your support He's getting lunch at Chipotle the tortise In the race. Kim Kardashian, Sigourney Weaver, Russia, R-E-S-P-I-C-T. They're all jitty. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. There's no real conflict. Resist. We much. Resist. We much.

1:13:46 We must and we will much about that be committed. You've got karma. I figured it was time to play the long version of that. And talking about long versions, there's a note that's oversized. I think you can skip through some parts of this. Maybe. Yes. This is from anonymous, $233.69. ITM John Adam in the squeaky chair. What's that, Cher? It's not. Oh, what's it say? Oh, he says hi back. The Cher says hi. Oh, God. Now you're like Pee Wee Herman. Wait, wait.

1:14:27 Okay, I'm not going to... that's not worth repeating. Sir, I'm a listener since about... oh sure, I'm a listener since about 950. It's my first donating so I need a de-douching. Okay. You've been de-douched. Now he goes on about how the black boxes work in cars and he apparently is an expert in black box technology and well known. That's one of the reasons he wants to be anonymous. He says what we're referring to as a black box is an airbag computer which also acts as an event data recorder as it works today that upon deployment of the airbag

1:15:07 the send key index algorithm that typically allows this computer of taking software updates being erased and overwritten to and participating in the CAN bus controllers, central controller area network. This is a reason that if your airbag goes off, you're told you also need to replace the airbag computer, anyway. The cut to the chase, he says, this is all about the change in the 2020-2021 smog machines though. The new smog machines requires that all auto computers remain untouched, unlike today where aftermarket products exist to tune and enhance the operation of a vehicle for timing and fuel delivery and other exposed and

1:15:50 defined parameters. Soon you will not be able to pass aftermarket products, you will not be able to pass smog if any of these computers have been modified in any way and the Send Key Index algorithm is protecting them. Seed key index algorithm protecting them today are being switched to rolling rainbow encryption is likely that I gotta write that down Rolling rain, but the hell is that is we'll find out as likely soon You will be issued a ticket based on your decision to to speed four months ago on a Sunday morning However, that does not exist today with today's vehicles. Well, you will that's what the point is, which we've been predicting It's obvious. That's what you want to do. Yeah, of course

1:16:38 But what's not answered in this note is the question of, so I have a 25-year-old Lexus. And if I swap out the computer, which I can get lots of horsepower out of this car, and Does it apply to old computers that have been switched out or just the new ones after the 2020 model? John, John, John. It's not a good note from that perspective. When you drive in that Lexus, all people do is look and salute you. They don't care. They're like, look at that old guy. Do you remember when you were growing up, you saw, oh, look at that guy in a Model T or Model A. Wow, that's so cool. That's who you are now.

1:17:30 Yeah, it just doesn't look the car just looks different. Yeah, it looks kind of grubby, but the car is still collectible by the community at large. People still offer to buy it constantly. Shout out to my smoking hot wife, Big C as we celebrate 11 years on Friday, May 3rd. Oh, nice. Please. Some house buying karma. Best of you all. Woomis. Yes. And thank you very much. For your support of the program and keep us informed as that what we own is no longer really ours You've got karma Jim Watson Whistler Wow Whistler BC one of the most picturesque places in the world $233 and 33 cents is ours. Sorry. I've been I've been to Whistler very pretty I skied it I

1:18:21 Askeed Whistler. Askeed Whistler, man. He's our second associate executive producer and last one on the list. Happy birthday to me donation rather than grouse about my birthday being hijacked by the Mexican liquor cartel as I have in the past. I will change my title from Sir James of the mountains to, I don't know if he's, if this is, if he's serious about this, just Sir Sanko to Mayo having passed baronet level some time ago. Hmm. Well, I think it's on the official list. Let me see, we had a title change. We can do that. No, no, no. I guess he's just throwing it in for fun. It's not on the official list. Okay, if you give us a confirmation on this change... Then we'll do that, yes. We'll do it later. We're not going to do it when it sounds like a joke. All right. Jingles, Sir Chris's 2-channel luge goat karma, please. Oh, geez. Luge.

1:19:20 Uh, two channel. I don't know what that means, but we'll give it a shot. You've got... karma. Alright, thank you very much. That was great. I'd forgotten that one. You forget what people make. So many good jingles. Good stuff. That was it though, sadly. Yeah, that was it for show 1135. I want to thank these folks for producing the show and we'll have more producers in general listed later. Yeah, we do $50 and above in our second segment. These are very valuable credits. They're just like Hollywood. You recognize it, executive producer, associate executive producer.

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1:20:42 Different pharma news. Very interesting case. that is taking place in particular because it is a criminal case against a CEO and an entire pharmaceutical corporation. A couple of clips I'd like to share. This is the background of it. It's on NPR. The prosecutors laid out what they say was a nationwide scheme to... Are they hiring people on voice anymore at NPR or are they just hiring anybody? I don't know. The prosecutors laid out what they say was a nationwide scheme to boost sales of this opioid painkiller. And you can think about it in three different steps. The first thing they did was they targeted doctors who were known to overprescribe opioids. The head of sales, somebody who pleaded guilty... Wait, wait, wait, over what?

1:21:35 over prescribed opioids does she say the word prescriber let's listen again the first thing they did was they targeted doctors who were known to over prescribe opioids over prescribed I could it sounds like over beside okay well it's over prescribed that The head of sales, somebody who pleaded guilty and testified for the prosecution, said the company ran toward pill mills, not away from them. To insist therapeutics, he said, pill mills meant dollar signs. The next thing they did was, as you said, they bribed doctors to write prescriptions. That often meant that

1:22:14 People were being prescribed really high opioids, and these people, these patients didn't necessarily need it. They set up a sham speakers program where doctors were paid not to give lectures but to write prescriptions. And then the last thing they did was they set up a whole call center where incest employees deceived insurance companies saying whatever was necessary to get their expensive medication covered. That includes fabricating cancer diagnoses. So this is a spray, a spray fentanyl. Yeah. And this to the no agenda producers who have been around like, okay, we know exactly how this works. They bribe the doctors, they give them speaking fees for things they don't have to speak at, they give them hookers. They've taken it to a whole new level in this case. Throughout the trial, the prosecutors basically depicted a company that was corrupt through and through.

1:23:05 For example, Insys sales reps received higher bonuses when they convinced doctors to write prescriptions in higher doses. The idea was get patients hooked and kind of keep them coming back for more. They even made a music video that was shown during the trial about this. Here's a clip. I watched the whole video. I put a link in the show notes. It's a bunch of white guy douchebags doing a hip hop video about drugging up people's dynamite. That is that is incredible. Clearly the lengths that they were willing to go to to do this.

1:23:46 Yeah, and things got even crazier. They hired a former exotic dancer to be part of their sales team. She was actually one of the defendants who was found guilty yesterday in the trial. Wow. Wow! What? There's... There's sex used in sales? Woah! ...who was found guilty yesterday in the trial. Wow. And she gave a lap dance to a doctor to try and convince him to prescribe their opioid medication. A lap dance. You gotta hear, so first she does that whole wow thing and then, uh, I don't know, what is it?

1:24:24 In that work at the very end she does another one team She was actually one of the defendants who was found guilty yesterday in the trial and she She gave a lap dance to a doctor to try and convince him to prescribe their opioid medication. Oh my oh my They're so shocked about this. This has been going on for a long time and interestingly Well, I'll get to that in a second. Here's the last clip because this is a criminal trial. That's what's great and new about this. This is a criminal case, not a civil case. Often you see pharmaceutical companies getting in trouble in civil cases. That means big fines. But this criminal case means possible prison time. These executives are facing up to two decades behind bars.

1:25:12 The other thing to note here is that they were charged with racketeering conspiracy. That means this crime, these crimes were systemic. They were conspiring. This was not just a few bad actors. Right. Racketeering was originally designed to go after organized crime. The prosecutors are essentially saying these pharmaceutical executives were like drug lords. This kind of represents an aggressive strategy by the federal government to go after pharmaceutical companies for their role in fueling the opioid epidemic. And experts say that this is likely the beginning of a trend and that this case could be a blueprint for future prosecutions. Yeah, baby. I had a clip. I had this clip from.

1:25:57 We have to do a search. It just got overlooked, but it was done on, I had Amy's version of this when it first started off. I think if you do the search drug or drug lords, democracy now, DN at the end, you might find it. I just can't find it in my old lists. Yes, white-collar drug lord. Does that sound about right? Yeah, that's the same story. This is when it first began and it might be worth playing as an adjunct to what you just played. In New York City, federal prosecutors announced criminal charges. That girl who we just heard is going to grow up to be Amy. You hear how that voice went? That's a possibility. I wonder what you asked about do they check on her. I think that they probably got her. She's a professional voice person, you know.

1:26:43 Sex chat line probably. Let me just listen a little bit to her. Go after pharmaceutical companies in New York City. Federal prosecutors announced criminal charges Tuesday against top executives of Rochester Drug Cooperative, a major producer of opioids, charging them with a conspiracy to profit by illegally distributing controlled substances. This is Jeffrey Berman, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. RDC's former CEO, Lauren Stoudt, is in custody and will be presented to a judge in the Southern District of New York this afternoon. Dowd is charged with conspiring to distribute oxycodone and fentanyl. Now this, isn't this a different guy? They're not talking about this case, are they?

1:27:30 I don't know. I mean, I'm wondering. It's not because this sounds different. This is not the CEO of the CEO of going after a different, different group of people than me. But this is the same thing. Criminal, quote, unquote, fentanyl. Conspiring to defraud the DEA, Dow, led RDC during the entire period of the charge conspiracy. and as alleged, personally directed and profited from much of its criminal activity. The company's chief compliance officer also faces criminal charges. Both executives face possible life in prison. Yeah, it's about time we throw some people in jail, but it's kind of baffling to me because

1:28:08 You've got these stories like, oh my god what's going on? Look at the corruption just to give them more medication that they didn't need. But meanwhile no one seems to connect the dots to, oh I don't know, the MMR vaccination? If you dodge the needle from measles that's illegal for if you catch the measles you will die. Everyone all of our producers chipped in got us some good stuff to work with let's get an update on the measles outbreak from Fox and Friends Health alert for you now. Hundreds of passengers quarantined on a cruise ship due to a measles outbreak. Health officials docking the ship, believed to be used by the Church of Scientology in St. Lucia. The infected crew member is in isolation, we're told. The ship is set to depart today. Back on land in the meantime, a woman with measles attended a packed California movie theater to see

1:29:01 Avengers Endgame. Officials now warning other moviegoers may have been exposed. There are now over 700 reported cases nationwide. Merck and Company says that they have increased production of the vaccine. They are the only supplier of the measles vaccine in the U.S. Oh yeah! This is so good. So I have a number of quick little ditties here. We're going back to NPR to understand about the MMR. Again... We just went through this, we have trials going on, criminal trials of pharmaceutical companies and executives pushing shit on people that they didn't need, it was too much of it, over-prescribing, yet complete silence on this, and I actually have some stats here because we got a lot of people in the healthcare industry,

1:29:57 telling us what's going on. Just to give you an idea, the measles outbreak, which interestingly in 2014, ophthalmologists in California were able to become licensed to hand out, to vaccinate people. So you can go to your local ophthalmologist and so the ophthalmologist published a couple things in conjunction with the CDC and right now we have the 704 cases we're tripping out but in 2014 it was 667. It's not like you know

1:30:32 Wow, what happened? How did that happen in these in in in five short years? You know and gee it's all the way up to 700 it's it's not even it's not even a hundred more than what it was but okay We're all supposed to be afraid and NPR is participating beautifully and I have to say every time I hear another story about another piece of this measles outbreak I wonder about all of the people in this country who may have been vaccinated so long ago that they don't even know what the status of their own vaccination is. I have to say, I texted my mom and said, by the way, we were vaccinated for measles, weren't we? And she said, yes, yes, you were. But at what point do kids get vaccinated for this? And how long does the vaccination last?

1:31:17 Well, children start to be vaccinated either at 12 or 15 months of age and then they get a second dose usually at age 4, 5 or 6, somewhere in there. Fortunately, the protection from the vaccine is lifelong for 97% of us. So that's really an excellent vaccine. So there's no booster shot needed as an adult? There's no booster shot needed for an adult. Now, that said, if you're an adult who was vaccinated before 1989 and you're going to an area of the world where there's ongoing measles transmission, you might

1:31:59 want to review your status to make sure you got vaccinated and if there's any insecurity, just get another dose of MMR to be sure. This is my favorite thing. Just get take two. Get three shots. It's not gonna kill you. What do you have to worry about? If you have come in contact with someone who has measles but you yourself are vaccinated, can you pass measles on to a third person? No, you will not because your protection will prevent that from happening. So you're not only protecting yourself, you're protecting people around you because you will not be a transmitter. What do you think needs to happen right now, Dr. Schaffner, to get this measles outbreak under control and make sure that next week and the week after that and the week after that we're not hearing story after story about a new outbreak somewhere else in the world?

1:32:59 You've just heard me sigh because every child that is unvaccinated, if they were vaccinated today, This problem would end completely in two weeks. The issue really is unvaccinated children. We need to extend the protection of the vaccine to all of those children and we can once again eliminate measles from the United States. Oh, somebody please think of the children. That's right. They're coming for your kids. This is what they want. Let me, let me read a note from one of our producers, Mike, long time listener. I wanted to say thanks for having a positive effect on my family regarding vaccines and for bringing you back up for the importance of your reporting. We're not anti-vaxxers, but have learned to question. Thanks.

1:33:52 Our state, Virginia, required papers, quote-unquote, showing double vaccination for MMR before admittance to school. Our kids were vaccinated once. We asked for a lab test instead of double vaccination and were threatened with the $300 fee for each child. But insisted anyway, kids were shown to be fully immune by the lab tests and issued the proper quote unquote papers and the insurance paid for the tests. Thank you for your courage, Mike. It's interesting. I got one from Jim.

1:34:33 I recently took a job that requires me to have a series of vaccines or prove that I had these vaccines. It is in the healthcare industry, but in my position I would likely never face a customer. Still, I must have MMR, Tdap, and varicella. Any records of my vaccines as a child are long gone and I either had to take the vaccines or prove my immunity, which is called a titer test. Is that t-i-t-e-r? Titer? Tighter, I guess. This test can prove immunity or may show that you do not have immunity and you had to take the vaccines. My insurance did not pay for the test, but it did pay for the vaccines. I elected to get the vaccines. Nice knowing you, Jim. And... That's just distilled water. When...

1:35:18 Rev. Morgan, when Obamacare first came through, a real time of healthcare upheaval, the local hospital was insisting pastors get flu shots and some type of physical to visit the hospital. They did a blood test and looked at my antibodies. They insisted I get a new MMR since mine was from 1973. Years later, I'm upset about taking it. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but now I think some of this is overboard and a money grab, you think? They do already want the requirement you predicted on the last show. The vaccine requirement has kind of fallen away though. Well, let's listen to the propaganda of this and again it's, you know, it's the measles. Keep it within perspective people. But

1:36:05 How about Stephen Colbert? He's got a whole new take on this. But let's get away for a moment from our political crisis to focus instead on the cheery news of our public health crisis. You see, the CDC reports that more than 700 people have been infected by measles this year, marking a 25 year high for the infectious disease. Ignoring the 2014 almost 700 but okay. Because people aren't vaccinating against it. What is wrong with you? As the son of an immunologist, this might be the scariest news I have ever heard. Really man? The scariest? I mean scarier than Trump? This might be the scariest news I have ever heard.

1:35:18 Rev. Morgan, when Obamacare first came through, a real time of healthcare upheaval, the local hospital was insisting pastors get flu shots and some type of physical to visit the hospital. They did a blood test and looked at my antibodies. They insisted I get a new MMR since mine was from 1973. Years later, I'm upset about taking it. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but now I think some of this is overboard and a money grab, you think? They do already want the requirement you predicted on the last show. The vaccine requirement has kind of fallen away though. Well, let's listen to the propaganda of this and again it's, you know, it's the measles. Keep it within perspective people. But

1:36:05 How about Stephen Colbert? He's got a whole new take on this. But let's get away for a moment from our political crisis to focus instead on the cheery news of our public health crisis. You see, the CDC reports that more than 700 people have been infected by measles this year, marking a 25 year high for the infectious disease. Ignoring the 2014 almost 700 but okay. Because people aren't vaccinating against it. What is wrong with you? As the son of an immunologist, this might be the scariest news I have ever heard. Really man? The scariest? I mean scarier than Trump? This might be the scariest news I have ever heard.

1:36:55 I... I... People have decided they're not sure if they want to be immune from disease. Your ancestors are saying, I would trade places with you, but I died of measles. Now the roots of the anti-vax nonsense might be a little more complex and nefarious than you'd think because... Now where do you think he's going with this? If you haven't, if you've seen it, don't, don't. But if you, if you... I didn't see it. Where do you think he's going? Well, do the re-intro. Give me the intro again to the... Give me the premise again and then I'll make a guess. I would trade places with you, but I died of measles.

1:37:33 Now the roots of the anti-vax nonsense might be a little more complex and nefarious than you'd think because it turns out... Okay. As it turns out what? Oh, uh, the roots, well, it has to be... maybe there's some jab or needling Jenny McCarthy or... It's better than that! Better than that. Oh, yeah, it's a go-to. It's a class. It's got to be a Trump thing then Yeah, in a way here we go complex and nefarious than you'd think because it turns out Russian trolls promoted anti-vaccination propaganda that may have caused measles outbreak Are you telling me that Russian trolls helped promote a devastating disease that could weaken our nation and now measles

1:38:21 Even more alarming, these trolls were tweeting about both sides of the vaccine debate and getting into an argument with themselves. Because Russia doesn't care if we're vaccinated or not. According to this report, it is after a far bigger prize, the exacerbation of America's distrust of one another and in turn, the erosion of their confidence in society. Russia, you don't have to erode our confidence in society. Twitter does that all on its own. Just let it ride. We came up with the Tide Pod Challenge all by ourselves.

1:39:03 But he's serious about that, about this Russian thing is a real story. Yeah, the Russians have managed to... so 700 people got... were the Russians involved in 2014 too when there were 700? They must have been involved. Those damn Russians. Those damn Russians, man. They've been in it for five years. How vulnerable is the general public right now? Cases have been surging and that is a 25-year high. Are you sure it's the measles? can't do any kind of vaccination story without the latest update on the Democratic Republic of Congo. We've upped the ante now on the Ebola outbreak.

1:39:42 I am just waiting for us to send some troops. Ebola always brings the military. More than 1,500 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo have contracted Ebola since the outbreak was declared nine months ago and the rate of infection is accelerating. Dr Tedros and Dr Mweti, our regional director, have recently returned from the Democratic Republic of Congo where they found the situation on the ground to be to be worse than it has been previously. It's not just a virus that health care workers are battling. Efforts to control Ebola are hampered by violent attacks. Insecurity has become a major impediment to ensuring that we can access, engage with and serve the communities we wish to serve in Ebola control. Since January we've experienced

1:39:03 But he's serious about that, about this Russian thing is a real story. Yeah, the Russians have managed to... so 700 people got... were the Russians involved in 2014 too when there were 700? They must have been involved. Those damn Russians. Those damn Russians, man. They've been in it for five years. How vulnerable is the general public right now? Cases have been surging and that is a 25-year high. Are you sure it's the measles? can't do any kind of vaccination story without the latest update on the Democratic Republic of Congo. We've upped the ante now on the Ebola outbreak.

1:39:42 I am just waiting for us to send some troops. Ebola always brings the military. More than 1,500 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo have contracted Ebola since the outbreak was declared nine months ago and the rate of infection is accelerating. Dr Tedros and Dr Mweti, our regional director, have recently returned from the Democratic Republic of Congo where they found the situation on the ground to be to be worse than it has been previously. It's not just a virus that health care workers are battling. Efforts to control Ebola are hampered by violent attacks. Insecurity has become a major impediment to ensuring that we can access, engage with and serve the communities we wish to serve in Ebola control. Since January we've experienced

1:40:40 119 separate attacks, 42 which have been directly on health facilities with 85 health personnel either injured or killed in those settings. So we are dealing with a difficult volatile situation. A funeral was held on Thursday for epidemiologist Richard Mazzucco who was shot dead by militia who reportedly shouted, Ebola doesn't exist. That's why they keep setting the treatment centers on fire. They think that all they're doing is injecting the population with shit that is just going to do something bad to them. They're not buying it. They don't buy it. I noticed. And they're dying of Ebola. Well, there's also a connection between both Ebola and measles.

1:41:36 with the thing that nobody's reporting on to any extreme, which they should be, which is African swine fever virus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pig Ebola. Pig Ebola. And this is the... Yeah, go ahead. This is wiping out pigs everywhere now that it got... I have a clip. This is a lecture from Christopher Orah In 2015, this is not a new disease by the way, if anybody thinks it might be made for D-trick or anything. Is this the same thing as swine flu or is this different? No, no, there's no comparison. There's not swine flu, it's not swine fever. It's African swine fever. It's a very specific disease and it is 100% fatal. It spreads like wildfire. It will spread from a ham sandwich to a

1:42:34 Wait, wait, from a ham sandwich, a dead sliced up pig cooked. And salted. No. Yes. Wow. And what happens is that it doesn't affect humans and people. My wife is all bent out of shape about this. Oh, well, the duck gets into China and the duck's going to sneeze and they get, you know, we're going to, I'm just going to know this has been around. This has been a serious problem in parts of the world since the 1900s. But it's never gotten into Europe, which it now has. It's never gotten into Russia, which it now has. And it never got into China, which is, it spread throughout China almost instantly. Well, hello, the Chinese are all over Africa. They're bringing it back. That's the problem.

1:43:23 The problem is that this, they didn't take, it's not here yet, but I bet you it'll get here. Even though apparently our people are doing a very good job of keeping contaminated ham sandwiches out of the country. Now, we learn a lot and catch up with this before it hits the real news cycle by listening to this 2015 lecture, which really explains a lot about this horrible disease. And I have some thoughts on, why it got to China and passed around so quickly, but let's listen to this. I wanted to emphasize why we do need to worry about African swine fever virus in the Caribbean region. It is spreading around the world as we speak at the moment in new areas.

1:44:10 It's already wreaked havoc in the Caribbean regions and our colleagues from certain Caribbean countries in the north may remember this virus when it decimated their pig industries in the Caribbean. It's a really tough and resistant virus so when you get it, it's extremely difficult to get rid of. And in the Caribbean we have many people coming from Africa over to the Caribbean and we've seen the virus being transported in pig products, in dare I say sandwiches, in pork it sticks around and survives for very very long periods of times even in processed or salted or cured meats. So it's a real risk to us. African swine fever virus is very similar in a lot of ways to classical swine fever virus and you can't tell the difference but there are subtle differences

1:45:04 As with a classical swine fever virus, it's a hemorrhagic fever. However, most of African swine fever viruses out there cause a 100% mortality. We call it the Ebola virus of pigs because it disintegrates the inside of pigs like Ebola does to the people that get it and they bleed out. It has natural reservoir hosts, especially in Africa. Wartogs bush pigs are the natural reservoirs hosts and here you can see a wartog here in Africa. But there's also soft ticks or Nithodora's ticks and we do have species of soft ticks that

1:45:42 are capable of transmitting African swine flu virus in the Caribbean region. Where is it at the moment? I'll have another quick slide on this but it's endemic in many African countries, it's been endemic in Sardinia, a little island in Europe for 35 years. The European Union has thrown everything at it and it can't get rid of it in Sardinia. But really this is the thing at the moment, it's now in a large area, and I'll explain to you, in Russia and it's in the European Union and it's spreading. As I said, it's invaded the Caribbean. Our colleagues in Cuba, Haiti and Dominican Republic will know about it. And critically, there is no vaccine, so there is nothing you can do about it as regards vaccination. That's what makes it so dangerous. Such a nasty disease, potentially threatening the pig industries around the world. I think it's the biggest veterinary threat at the moment. I would say that, but I think it's the biggest veterinary threat to livestock industries around the world.

1:46:44 You don't know how many pigs there are in China, but if it goes to China, it is going to be a dis global disaster All right. I have a couple questions before we get your thoughts one So this cannot this does nothing to humans you it's only for pigs It cannot morph it. There's no example of that. It's just just kills pigs. I Well, it's been around since the 1700s when it was first traced and it has yet to go to humans and it seems unlikely that it will now. Although the Chinese practices you never know. Well, and so the next question is, you said it can even be transmitted through a ham sandwich. Which he just said too. Yeah. Do pigs eat ham sandwiches? Do they eat themselves? Do they eat ham?

1:47:30 Yeah. Okay. And can you get it as a ham radio operator? That was the most important question. It took a while to get there. All right. Well, this could also be economic. I mean, what if this could be warfare? Pigs are important. I was thinking about this because there was when I started researching this, for example, the whole pig phenomenon, eating pigs, at least in the West, not so much in China, stems from another disease. which is called, this is kind of interesting, which was a cattle disease called the Rinderpest. And Rinderpest wiped out a lot of the livestock.

1:48:14 beef, like, and it would just, for itself, here, the rinderpest wiped out a lot of the livestock around the, like, the years 1000, 1200, and like that. And the kicker here is the measles virus emerged from rinderpest as a disease between 1000 and 1100 AD, a period that may have been preceded by limited outbreaks involving a virus not let, yet fully acclimated to humans. So this rinderpest like wiped out the herds of cattle and so they started using pigs and they brought pigs in another, here's cows dead rinderpest in South Africa. In the late 1800s, the cows were getting wiped out by this and they finally got a vaccination for it. It got eradicated around 2001 or something, it's fairly recent. And then the pig thing started showing up

1:49:14 So even this deadly rinderpest, when it morphed to a human ailment, it was measles. It wasn't like something killing people. And I thought that was a weird connection, because now African swine fever is, in fact, I'm reading this, if you read the, China culls, you hear China cull, here's I got one article, China culls 200,000 pigs. And then you read on another group, 200, they have culled millions of pigs and they do it by burning them alive. And it's just a horrible situation. And so I was thinking this is a, it turns out that rinderpest was actually

1:49:56 run as a chemical biological warfare idea in World War I and World War II. And so it was going to be, it could have been used as an agent, but they tend not to use these types of things as a mechanism of war because it backfires and kills all your things too. Well, I have a last paragraph from an article from Bloomberg about this. The epidemic could have political repercussions as well. Xi Jinping may want to finalize trade negotiations with the United States president to both ease the importation

1:50:31 of much-needed pork, poultry and beef supplies and to enable Chinese lawmakers to focus solely on quelling outbreaks. This is a big deal and... This could cause a revolution in China. Chinese cuisine is 50% dependent on pork. They make... and one stat I saw was that if every pork producer in the world sent all their pork to China, it wouldn't fill the need. The Chinese grow that many pigs. Wow. And so it's just a spit in the bucket to send them pork. And there is a tariff on it, and they have to reduce the tariff to get the pork, and it could cause civil unrest. And so the first thing you think of, well, maybe this is like some sort of a scheme, a form of warfare, which is not, I don't believe would be done because if it ever got out, you pulled the stunt. It's dangerous. Because what would we do without bacon? America would freak out.

1:51:30 Well, there's that. This disease is gonna get here and it is gonna affect bacon. But I'm thinking, who would benefit the most from killing off all, or having all the pigs die and ending the whole pig business? PETA. They don't care about the death of these pigs. They don't want people eating meat. So if you're floating around and this stuff is available on a ham sandwich, Yeah, I see you're a tourist in China and you say, oh, I like to see the pig farms. And you just throw a ham sandwich or you throw something over the fence. Boom, that whole herd is wiped out within, you know. Well, that would be rather terrifying. You die in four days, by the way. The pigs die in four days once they get this disease. This stuff's got to morph over to humans. That would be so cool.

1:52:26 It wouldn't be cool, it would wipe out everybody. Or they would become a measles and it wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's just not the kind of thing that morphs over. It's been around too long, but it's now out of control. And it's gonna wipe out, we have to rethink our... Our pig strategy. Pig strategy is gonna be different. It's just like, I don't know, this is the end of the pig. And it's the year of the pig coincidentally in China. It is the end of the pig. The end of the pig. Yes, end of the pig. That's a good time. That isn't, that's not bad. Not bad. Wow, thanks for the illumination on that.

1:53:08 It's gonna become big news right now. You know, then this is like I gave the lecture or played the lecture from 2015. And it's not, not this has been bubbling underneath. There it is. And the news media is so preoccupied with Trump, Barr, Trump, Mueller. They're not telling us anything like this. This is a horrible situation. It could cause civil unrest in China to an extreme. It could cause the collapse of the Chinese government. It could cause the stock market to collapse. This has ramifications that are out of control and yet the reports are sketchy. That's all we care about. We don't care about anything else but Mueller. Yeah, Mueller. Oh, I do have interesting news.

1:53:52 Do you recall on the day that the carbon tax was implemented in Canada for our friends, and we're sorry for their challenge, the Canades, that it was sold on the same day as Canada is warming up twice as fast as the rest of the world? Yeah, I don't know how that works. Global warming should be like, you know, it's not like a ray beam that's aimed at Canada. Well, one of our producers sent me a note and said, hey, have you ever done a search on Bing? Have you ever Binged twice as fast as the rest of the world and removed Canada from the results? So remember, the claim was Canada is warming up twice as fast as the rest of the world.

1:54:47 Doing this search and these are all recent search results. I shall read to you some of the results The Arctic is warming up twice as fast of the rest of the world Why Singapore is heating up twice as fast of the rest of the rest of the world China's heating up twice as fast as the rest of the world Mountains are warming twice as fast of the rest of the world Are you getting the you getting it now people are you understanding how it works? It's unbelievable Yeah, that's a good one by the way. I'll give you a 10 on that. Well, the producer did. I do have a... I was watching a global warming lecture. I don't have the guy's name doing it, but he had some Jim Hansen, you know, the guy who's really behind the whole global warming fear. He, Jim Hansen, he's got a Jim Hansen anecdote here. Jim Hansen, not the guy from the Muppets, Jim Hansen. No, that's Jim Henson. Oh, okay. Thank you. Got it.

1:55:46 So let's hear what he has to say. This is Jim Hanson. Now, Jim Hanson, by the way, if you go back in 1988, he was asked by a reporter, how do you see things in 40 years? And he says, well, you see the highway down here, the Western Highway outside of his office, it's not going to be there anymore. Based on a doubling of CO2 from pre-industrial times. Well, right now we've gone 25 years into the 40 years we've had one inch of sea level rise. There are 10 feet to go for him to make his prediction and it's got to happen within the next 15 years. You take a look at the, let's see, this is Jim Hansen's slide where he decided, realizing that sea level was not rising, he said it's really going to be exponential.

1:56:38 So by the mid-century really isn't gonna rise at all. You won't even be alive here neither will I And yet we're gonna get four four meters of rise and this is meters not feet in the last 20 years of the century Don't hold your breath on this one either How's the mud flats the mud flats? They're intact there hasn't been a there's not even an inch of sea level rise as far as I can tell But yeah, Hansel and Hattie, what they do is they change, instead of having a linear graph, they put it into some sort of geometric thing. So it's, yeah, it's not gonna rise right now. Then all of a sudden it's gonna go crazy, is the old hockey stick thing. I've been reading Theodore Kaczynski's Anti-Tech Revolution book, which I think was published in, I wanna say 2015, I think.

1:57:34 And he goes quite a bit into the global warming thing, although he's not a, you know, he says, biosphere, sure, warm, cool, etc. He says that this will all lead to geoengineering. And this is a guy who's been in jail for what, 30 years? He said it's all going to lead to geoengineering, which in turn will then cause the heat to be trapped and all the oceans will actually evaporate. And yeah. And then that's not good and the sick thing of geoengineering is when you geoengineer you're blocking out sunlight well Then your solar panels also start to decrease in efficacy or effectiveness, so it's Not done with the book yet somewhere in the book I expect them to tell me how I stopped this evil tech revolution And I can't wait to find out what I have to do and who I have to recruit for it

1:58:29 And I'm about to say yes. Well, before we do, I do have some funny stuff. Well, I was going to mention something that would take us into it. Just understanding how we operate our business, where we ask you, how much is this show worth to you? Is it valuable? That's our value for value model. It's very simple. You produce it, you listen to it, you give us stuff. Did you like it? Was it worth five bucks, 50 bucks? Equivalent of going out on the weekend? How much time did you spend? And the reason why is we need to be completely independent from everything. You can't discuss these topics. Why is Piggy Bola not discussed? Is it just because of Barr, Mueller-Barr, Mueller-Trump? Is that the only reason? Or are there other issues at hand? You don't know. You can't even ask them.

1:59:20 And we have another one biting the dust, well it never really was an independent media outlet, it was run by or really set up and pre-financed by former MTV guru Tom Freston, who's a great guy, comes from the Afghanistan import-export business, not kidding. So he set up Vice Media and you know we've always seen that as kind of an advertising agency. A lot of people put a lot of stock into what Vice Media does and they think they're very cool and irreverent and great but they ran out of money and they did a new debt financing deal which was led by, come on,

2:00:09 Take one guess. Soros? Yes, in one go, exactly. That's right. $250 million from a consortium led by Soros. Wow. Yeah, they've laid off 250 employees, about 10% of their staff, just a few months ago. Well, the funny thing is that you bring this up because I do have a vice clip. Oh, okay. Now, this was something that stemmed out of Twitter. That's not funny, that's just how our beautiful magic works sometimes. So Carly in Louisiana sends me this clip because I was doing a back and forth with David Icke. And there was this special on David Icke that Vice had done. And it was just to slam him.

2:00:56 And I watched and I said a note to her, I said, you notice the whip saw? And she said no. Okay, I said I'm gonna play it on the show. So this is the report that this whole thing was kind of an anti-Ike documentary done by Vice. And it was done in a very snide way and it goes into his history. And there's a whip saw right at the very beginning which is just like, Why you do what is the point of doing this but okay? Let's go after arthritis had ended a promising career in football He'd become a broadcaster, but that all ended in one remarkable appearance on the Terry Wogan show I'll let it play again. I just had to stop that that's their entire clip of him on Terry on Terry Wogan show That's it

2:01:50 No, they play a longsword, but I don't know why they did it that way. That's great. After Arthritis had ended a promising career in football, he'd become a broadcaster. But that all ended in one remarkable appearance on the Terry Wogan Show. David Pike. In a turquoise tracksuit, he'd announced that he was the son of God and the world would be ending that year. It didn't and Ike seemed destined to disappear beneath a typhoon of public laughter It's quite funny really, you know 2,000 years ago had a guy called Jesus sat here and said these same things you would still be laughing It's really really funny that we've not really moved on that much. They're laughing at you. They're not laughing with you. Fine.

2:02:31 But Ike wouldn't disappear. You know, I've seen that interview. That's a total mischaracterization of the interview. That he said the world would end in a year and he compared himself to God. Okay, well that's the whipsaw. First of all, he claims that he said he's the son of God. He doesn't say that. He doesn't. He says that if Jesus was sitting here instead of me, instead of me, not that I'm the son of God, he would have gotten the same response, which probably would be true. But especially if you watch the way the family guy portrays Jesus. And then he never says anything about the world's going to end this year. And the clip clearly, and they play this clip and I'm not getting it. Why is,

2:03:15 What is the point of this sort of mischaracterization? It was outrageous to me. If you're vying for $250 million from George Soros, you know, you'll do the same. This is just another version of deplatforming some crazy right-wing Nazi quadroon terrorist nationalist supremacist old guy. It's the same. It's all the same. Everyone's following the money. These systems, like every system, just like us, we're just here surviving. We don't, I mean, we have our network, a network of producers, the people who participate in our program, and we're just out for survival. Vice is out for survival, Twitter, Facebook, they're all out for survival. I don't give a sh... I don't think Twitter, Facebook, they don't give a crap.

2:04:02 About anything but surviving because that's what the organisms do. That's what these self-propagating That's what all propagating systems do just survival I mean we may even be seeking way too much meaning behind it, but in this case the survival Yeah, virtue signal make everyone with a different come on man Soros is a fucking alien is reptile at minimum So you got to discredit the guy who's calling him out? Reptile. Yeah, he sure looks like one. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda, I'm moaning. And we do have a few people to thank for 1135, starting with Matthew Cole Perricone.

2:04:55 I guess. Perricone, actually he says, please give me jobs karma to go from contractor to full-time and also marriage karma for my July 4th wedding. We'll put that at the end of the segment, fo' sho'. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, Viscount of Eastern Washington came in with one of his notes and he's, I don't know if he's squandering the letterhead from the United Federation of Planets, but all he says is, please find and close the monthly rent payment for my place of sanity. Cheers. All right, thank you. Gracias. Needed to be on letterhead. Joe Salishower. What do you think? Joe Salishower? Salishower. Salashuar. Salishower. Yeah, something like that. Salishower. Yes. He's a knight in training, $121. Sir Vito, the Mountain Wap, 111.73. Wait, this is an early wedding donation for Adam and Tina?

2:05:56 In Boca El Lupo. Is that something I should know, I should understand? If you put it into a Spanish translator maybe. Okay. Onward. Whitney Showalter, $111. Sent a long note, worked in government medical research. Why don't you take a look at that when I go on and see what she's got to say about something. Probably measles. No one should have kids is all I see on there. Peter Nucolage, or Nucolage. $111.11, ITM Bros, Anonymous 100, David K 100, Bruce Wilkie 100, John Robineau 100. And also there's a note from Wilkie I'll read later. Sir Charles of Wyoming in Mesa, Arizona.

2:06:51 Sorry, I find it funny. MJ7V73 says, 73-73. Hey, we lost Sir Green of Ham's. What do you mean we lost him? Did he go overboard? I have not seen a note. He used to have a check that was sent automatically for months and months and years and years and then about four or five months ago it stopped. Well, maybe he had to save his money. David C. Pugh in Massillon, Ohio is not the case with him, 69-69. Chris Baylor, 6789 from Grafton, Wisconsin. Adam Wood in London, UK, 5678. He does need a de-douching, I believe. I've been a douche for quite long enough, approximately a year.

2:07:37 Compensation program begins today. You've been de-douched. No one should have to wade through as much M5M cobblers as both you do without some value coming your way. Thank you. That's exactly right. Space Force. Dame Jean is no douche, it's 5611. Anna Mercuriev in St. Louis, Missouri, 5555. Pete Federici, 5555. Brandon Turner Velez, 5555. And Aaron Groen, 5519. And this is the 5519 was the 55, Sanco de Mayo donation for today. So I'm gonna read the 5519 donations, which helped us quite a bit.

2:08:23 name and location, Jacob Honan, Beth Bradshaw, Sir Latte, Lord of the Bremelos in Bremerton, Washington, John Fusco, Sir John Fusco, I believe. Fuco, Fuco. Fuco, Fuoco. Fuoco, yeah. Fuoco, now there is a Fusco in there too, this is not him, sorry. Just sun in my eyes. Michael Ballard in Dallas Town, Pennsylvania. Michael Winget, dude named Ben in Southwest Kansas. Hold on, Michael Ballard from Dallas town, never got a de-douching for his first donation. Let's do it. You've been de-douched. All right, we got you covered. Michael O'Meally, Dennis Adams, Ian Odom in Weed, my favorite town names.

2:09:21 Weed, California. Morgan Neck, Evan Gable, Sir Daddy Cass of the Love House, Joseph Finley, Mary Beam in Hagerstown, Robert Newby, but it's New-Buy, N-E-W-B-Y, Alexander Smith, Robert Siegel, Victor Gregg, Anthony Rodriguez in Tucson, some guy in Phoenix, And he's in Phoenix. Bill Johnson, Kalen Nistor, Sir Upper Decker, Cassidy Eastwood in Oklahoma City, Scott Waldherr, or Hair, Jason Doolin, Richard Hufford, Gregory Mella, Sir Richard Chow,

2:10:14 Sir Woody of the Falls, Gee Boise. Gee Boise. Gee Boise. From Israel. Yes. Alexander Sulzberger. That's Baron Gee, by the way. Baron, yeah. Of the Disputed Promised Land. Disputed Promised Land. Haven't heard him for a while. He's an old-timer, man. He's been around. Well, he's back. and James Moores are last on the list. And from there we thank all of them for the celebration donation of 5519, which celebrates both Theodore's birthday, a lot of other birthdays apparently, and also San Gordon Mayo. And if you go to the wiki page, which I link to in the newsletter, take a look at the stuff that goes on on the 5th of May.

2:11:03 Anyway, Brian Moss comes in with 55 10 double-diggles on the dime day David a white chick in Fort Myers, Florida Came in and he does have he bet he should be he says does he listen on the nights? No, I think he may be is there a title change in order for him. Let me check No, no, he's a knight No, he's there was no night nightings at all. Yeah. Well if Eric's doing a Search on night. This is a misspell. Ah Yes, I see. Okay. So Dan Wojcik, let me we can add him right now. There's no problem Hey guys get the roundtable ready. We yeah, we have a nighting. Okay, and he wants to be sir Dan of the JW's okay nights

2:11:59 Every night smell with a K people is just you know and he wants hold on a second sir Dan of the JW Yeah, does he have anything for the round table? W's the J up JJ W's and does he have anything for the round table? He wants at the table and it's pronounced White check white check got it. Yeah, okay. Well. Thank you very much and when welcome Dan We would bring in the table and as we speak it'll work out no problem John Lopez, Scott Fuller, both these are both 55, that one that goes on the dime. I don't know why this became so popular today. Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia and Sir Tom Dary in DeForest, Wisconsin, all with 5510. And at 55 bucks, Sir Dan, the man, protector of the Cape Coral and the islands of the Sanibel and Captiva in Cape Coral, Florida. He's got a birthday coming up for his daughter.

2:12:55 Yeah, he gets requests to some, he needs some more karma I think. Eric Bird, 5419, we'll put that at the end. Eric Bird, 5419, Anthony Fields, 5419, there's some symbolism there. Michael Gates, 5280, Eric Hochul in Mulrose, Deutschland, 52, and then we're back to our, I see, we're back to our Unicode issues with his name. Eric Butler in Leveland, Texas, Tom van van Laurie Larry and Hasselt Belgium fun ladder fun ladder and hot wife Isabel mmm says it right there I see that and gender yeah, I need your help with baby girl karma Gender selection is not allowed in most European countries. We can we go to Cyprus and pay a

2:13:50 Something like 10,000 euros I guess but I decided to donate to no agenda instead. Well you got it quite a deal. Yeah, 51 bucks instead of 10,000 euros. Hold on let's give him baby girl karma. Make it a girl! You've got karma. Alright, let us know how that went. John O'Kelly, 50. Now these are $50 donors, name and location. John O'Kelly, Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Paul Von Cordelar in Imouden. Imouden. Imouden. Villarreal, Villarreal in Mercedes, Texas. Todd Moore in Arlington. Scott E. Knight in Lost Wages, Nevada.

2:14:36 Arthur Cloakide, Cloakid, Cloakide. Cloakid, Cloakid, Cloakid. Cloakid, okay. Victorville, California. Jason, Sir Jason, I think it's Sir Now by now, Sir Jason, it should be. Sir Jason Deluzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania. Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I want to thank all these people for producing the show and helping us get show 1135 out the door. Yes, and... You matter. You do. Eric Bird, who came in at 54.19, also said, big thanks and karma go to ServGQ for organizing the Baltimore meetup. May the 4th be with you. I guess that was yesterday.

2:15:17 And there was one other thing I caught here. Yes, Dame Gina says, happy eighth anniversary to Sir Gator of the North Texas Swamps. The family that listens to NOAAGENDER together does indeed stay together. Thank you for your courage, Dame Gina, and thank you all for supporting your best podcast in the universe. If you didn't this time, you can always consider Thursday because we'll be back here. Go to... Dvorak.org Slash and tons of karmas to hand out jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs You've got karma

2:15:58 Yeah, it's a brand new month. It is the month of May and the fifth is the day Cinco de Mayo. Happy birthday to Jim Watts, he celebrates today. Peter Nucolai says happy birthday to his son Logan who is turning 11. Sir Dan the Man, his awesome daughter turns 24 tomorrow. Sir Greg Birch, how you doing up there? Mr. DDS also celebrating his birthday tomorrow. And Grandpa John says happy birthday to Theodoreable. He turns two years old today and they never had a fight. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:16:39 Now we got two title changes, Sir Victor of Albamia becomes Baronet of the Talladega Ridge and Sir F, Sir Fahrenheit becomes the cognitive dissident Baronet of the Baritone Saxophone. And thank you for your renewed status in our peerage letter. And that is of course because they up their donations up to another $1,000 cannot be thankful enough. Let's see. Oh, then we have our nighting. Well, before, they're still getting the table done. I do want to mention the meetups we have now in the show notes. Handy links to noagendameetups.com for each of these. The 18th of May, Cincinnati, Ohio. May 25th, Eastern North Carolina. The 25th as well, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. June 6th, the second Seattle Washington meetup, or maybe it's the

2:17:34 3rd by now and June 8th Oklahoma City make sure you tweet out pictures of everybody and John do you have the the high-res versions of our heads for sticks or does someone have that because I'm getting requests I don't have it who has the high-res stick heads we have them at one call stick heads well what do you call them then bless you Yeah, no idea. We need a resource for this. Bless you. Are you okay? What's going on? I don't know, the stick thing got me sneezing. Can you grab your blade then for a sec? Yeah, here it is. I got it right. Hey, Don Wycheck! Step on up! I'm glad we caught that, sir. Due to the misspelling, but there you go.

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2:19:17 Okay, well I've got a little ditty here that's good. Alright. This is a compilation somebody made from one single speech of Joe Biden and just little snippets from his speech and it's a drunk no drunk thing. Oh. You can play the jingle if you wanted to play this but it's pretty obvious to me the answer. Let me see we have the jingle for this. Rich Fitzgerald, the county executive, the Valgetti County Executive being here and all my time in public life since I've gotten involved. The country wasn't built by Wall Street bankers, CEOs and hedge fund managers. If the enterprise hits hard times, everybody took a hit.

2:20:03 Union workers, the UAW took incredible cuts in their future and their pensions and the like to get GM working. They also got that last year and tried to cut wages or freeze wages for their people. Right today, the same is happening in big hospital systems. I think we have to rethink. how we define what constitutes a successful economy. Folks in America don't think their children are going to have the same standard of living they had. How can a person dignity be maintained? Why they do that? It means investing much more in medical research to conquer devastating diseases like cancer and addiction and Alzheimer's. So God bless you all and may God protect our troops. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

2:20:52 I don't if you think that's drunk or just old slurry man. I mean it does have drunk He's not that slurry normally. Yeah, you know he goes to these things. He's out of town. Yeah He's one of those guys. They take let's go out to lunch. You want a little little wine Joe really? I think he's hammered, huh? Maybe he's not if he's not hammered, then he's really shot. I was rather tickled about that China comment He made that we played on the last show Yeah, he sounded drunk there too. Well the reason why I was tickled by it is he said, you know, come on guys, you don't have to worry about China. Yeah, forgetting that he and his sons or that his son set up a huge hedge fund with a billion dollars of Chinese money a week after he and his son returned from a trip to China.

2:21:43 Yeah, so yeah, it needs to be noted. Well, thank you. That's the only thing it needs to be noted. Wouldn't that be something that needs to be noted? Yeah, they don't note it. Now I did. I thought I had an ISO from this, which I listened to later because I thought it would be nice at the end of the show because of the one that that kind of reflected the show. But then I listened to this. It was terrible. You can play it. Why why they do that? But then I decided to just take an ISO from a clip I can't play on the show and I want people to just go look this up and you would search for it on YouTube under dead raccoon in McDonald's. Why can't we play that? It is nothing but cussing. Oh, okay. So we could, but I took an, it's all just cussing, but it's hilarious because of this dead raccoon. Now,

2:22:40 You should look it up too. But I did pull one thing out of it which might be a nice ISO which is only in San Francisco. Okay. Only in San Francisco! Oh, that's good. That's a beautiful ISO. Done. End of show. Perfect. Nice of, uh... Yes. He's talking about the dead raccoon only in San Francisco. I can't wait for this. Can you give me a summary of what happened? You're holding out on me. Some white guy, and it also changes the usage of the N-word to refer to white bums. Some white homeless guy brought a dead raccoon that was stiff and had a rigamortis and puts it on the table in a McDonald's and so this guy starts filming it and It's like the guy the white guy is like I don't know what his problem is, but this guy just starts raving about this idiot bringing this this Rabid raccoon into the into the McDonald's place and then yelling at the McDonald's employees. It's just a very

2:23:42 It's a classic YouTube video. Okay. Dead Raccoon and McDonald's. I'm riveted now, I can't wait. I almost want to end the show early just so I can get to it. Now I have one other medley of stuff, but this is from the Free Beacon, and this is Maxine Waters that they stitched together all her rants about impeachment and the Mueller and all the rest of it, and I thought it was worth playing. Here you have a president who I can tell you and guarantee you is in collusion with the Russians. I say that he was in collusion with Putin. I believe that there really has been collusion. I say that he was in collusion with the Kremlin. I am so depending on our special counsel, Robert Mueller, to connect the dots, to connect those dots, connect the dots, dots.

2:24:30 dots dots dots dots dots dots dots the dots are connected the dots are getting closer if there was collusion we'll get to collusion i have my hopes on moeller as most people do i think it's going to be proven that if moeller does his job believe there was collusion and collusion will lead to impeachment this is going to lead right to impeachment and he ought to be impeached I believe it is possible to impeach him. That we need to impeach him. How long is it going to take? I don't know, but I give it to about December. We've got to get the facts. We've got to do the investigation. That is what leads to impeachment. I think it will lead to the impeachment of this president. We've got him. Hi millennials! Stay woke! She does good stuff, doesn't she?

2:25:15 Now that she's got her gravel. Yeah, she does, but she shouldn't be given any air time. She's insane. I want to do the economic stuff at the very end here. We've got a few minutes. Well, I do have my Brexit clip that I keep promising and I want to play it so we can be thinking about it for the next show. Okay, let's do that now. You want to do it now? Yeah. Okay, this... I found a new strategy. that I believe is being used or is going to be used, and they're gonna try to use it, and they tested it, they test marketed it. at TVNZ out of New Zealand on the Hayley Holt Breakfast Show. And I think if you read between the lines, you can see what they're going to try to do. And this would be the methodology you'd use to get a redo. OK, so again, this is about Brexit. This is where we've been waiting for the typical European Union scenario where they say, you voted wrong. Let's vote again.

2:26:11 And we've been waiting for that for years now and this may be the strategy to make it happen. British democracy has been shaken by revelations of cheating by the Vote Leave campaign during the Brexit referendum. They've been found guilty of breaking electoral law with two people now being referred to the police. So what does this all mean for the future of Brexit? To explain we have Professor Robert Patman from Otago University. Good morning. Good morning. In May Leave EU, which was one of the major campaigning groups for Brexit, was fined for overspending and now Vote Leave, which was fronted by Michael Gove, who's a cabinet minister, and Boris Johnson, until recently Foreign Secretary, that has just been fined this week more than 60,000.

2:26:57 and also matters have been referred to the police for further investigation. This is actually very serious because Vote Leave, which goes right to the Cabinet, including one of the Prime Minister's advisors is linked to that group, they have committed probably the biggest overspend, the biggest electoral irregularity since the 19th century. I mean we have to remember that this very contentious referendum in Britain which has pushed Britain towards Brexit was decided by a wafer-thin majority of 3.7% but one side overspent by 10%. So this has big implications

2:27:36 These are actually criminal offences. Yes. Do you think that we need a public inquiry here or will there be one? At the moment you see Mrs May owes her position to the outcome of the referendum. So she doesn't actually relish or want to open up a systematic police inquiry into what's happened. Okay, so what are the rules in this? Well, this horrible overspend of a massive 10%, which I guess is the biggest scandal in the history of the UK. Apparently. I think the idea is, of course, is to say, well, they violated the rules of engagement. We have to do the election again. Right. A do-over, a real do-over because of election

2:28:26 Irregularities. Irregularities, that's the word we're looking for. Very good. I like that. And they're test marketing this idea in New Zealand and of course this Haley woman is like all in and oh the two of them are, you know, there's a professor at one of the local universities and they're all, oh they're all a tizzy, oh geez, I don't know, this is terrible, that's, we're scandal, scandal. It's just this is I think we're gonna see this rolled out. That's why I wanted to get it into it Yeah, you're right and they got to do something pretty soon because we're we're coming up on D-Day. What is it? What is the why are you now? I think they moved it out. I thought they had a final final something they could well they if they Final final final final, but then they got the final final final final final final The problem is they've got the European Union parliamentary elections and you know The Brexit Party apparently is whatever polls are worth is polling very high and so yeah

2:29:25 I thought they would want to get out. The liberal Democrats are the ones that seem to be making hay from this whole thing and they're going to, I think, move into a position of power. I do have a clip of this, of the European Parliament where instead of listening to Nigel Farage go off on them. This is a very, isn't this a very old clip? Are you sure this isn't old? It could be so we won't play it. Well, let me try it. Let me check. Thank you very much for the publicity, Mr. President. But Mr. Farage has the whole morning talked about salaries and biggest waste of money. Well, you know, colleagues, what I think is the biggest waste of money in the European Union of today, that's the salary we are paying to Mr. Farage. That is the biggest waste of money. Oh no, Mr. Farage, let's be honest about it. You are

2:30:26 You are member of the fishery committee for example and you are never there! Never! In 2011 no attendance, in 2012 no attendance. It's fantastic what you are doing. You are coming here saying it's a scandal, the salaries that are being paid and you pay yourself a salary without doing any labour in your own committee. That's the reality of the European Union today. You want the fish? Drive you cow!

2:31:02 What's that? No, nothing. Go on. I hope that maybe this can be sent out to the BBC this evening once and on all the other private television in Britain. How you in fact cheating your own citizens here all the time already three years in a row and I think it has to finish because we know that Mr. Alain Amazur has rights This union, if it wants to become a real federal union, needs own resources. Needs, in fact, his own income. And that is the big battle to do now. And we shall do it together, and if it's necessary, without you, Mr. Farage. Good grandstanding. It's about time someone did that. Well, I'm glad they did. I thought it was good for us to run it because it balances the

2:31:52 what people perceive as us being pro-Farage. I don't give a shit what people perceive of us. I'm just saying it's nice to have the other side yelling at him. Yes, pandering. But the real kicker in that thing of course was not him yelling at him, it was him announcing that we need our own income taxes for us. Yes, that's the best part. Well, Frans Timmermans is apparently high on the list to be the winner of the of the election. This is a guy I know. I've interviewed him, I've met him a couple times, I've run into him at the airport, and he's a nice guy. Maybe you can invite the both of us to one of the big meetings they got there and maybe a dinner. Well, I'm gonna try. Yeah, you should. And I definitely would like to interview him. Do you remember, this is the guy who I interviewed on the radio station that eventually got burned to the ground?

2:32:41 Yes, right and and he and he was there and he was he had just been to Bilderberg with the Dutch Queen because he was the Secretary the Foreign Secretary not the Secretary of State but for so the undersecretary or something and then he said no I am what you're doing here man. That's pretty good You got to keep that going keep the alternative sound and so now it's running for has the Führer of the European Union So I'm gonna try to do with him. He's a reasonable guy for sure. We'll see. I I'm gonna finish that or he's gonna say who now he remembers he remembers Thanks, John. Thanks for being all positive about that. I'm trying to do something for the show. Yeah is my negative attitude is gonna kill the interview

2:33:25 Anyway, you'll get him, but he won't do it. Actually the public relations woman won't let it happen Yeah, but if you go through Twitter you get stuff done you start tweeting and then he gets interested okay, so It could mail chimp the president the president is trying to find a new member for the for the Fed board the Federal Reserve Board and Herman Cain pulled out because they said, oh, you're just a stupid pizza guy. Even though he'd been on the Fed board before and they threatened him with some.

2:34:00 True or not doesn't matter, some improprieties and Steven Moore had made a lot of stupid jokes and so he says he pulled back, but listening to this report I question if it was really his decision. He's said some pretty unsavory things about women in the past. He follows the pizza executive Herman Cain, who withdrew his name not too long ago. What tip the scales here against Moore? Yeah, you had a bunch of Senate Republicans outspoken of their fact that they were going to be not comfortable with kind of rubber stamping this guy's nomination, even though he was out there telling the world that it was going to fly through the Senate.

2:34:42 But maybe his most fatal flaw was coming out, I think, in a Bloomberg interview and disagreeing with this president's idea that the Federal Reserve should cut rates right now in this economic expansion. Maybe that was the death knell for him. And I think that that is the reason. I think Trump said, you have the wrong idea. I want the Federal Reserve to cut the interest rate. In fact, from what I understand, Trump is talking about up to a percent, which is pretty big. And lo and behold, what showed up on my radar this morning is John Williams. And John Williams, we were introduced to John Williams thanks to you, John C. Dvorak. John Williams is the guy behind ShadowStats. And we had some very interesting numbers come out. We had a blowout GDP.

2:35:27 We had even lower unemployment, even though the number one shadow stats number we've always looked at is the U6 and the real unemployment versus people who have just fallen off the escalator and are sleeping under I-35 because you just don't count as looking for a job. And Williams believes that they should be counted. He certainly, and I think so too. Yeah, they're unemployed. Yeah, they're unemployed and they should be work able. But he agrees with Trump on the interest rate cut and for good reason. Remember, all these fancy numbers were doing great. Everything's fantastic. But there's a great deal of variance in terms of the quality of the numbers. And you also have different people, different political perspectives.

2:36:17 is all over the place but maybe in the middle was 2.5% I thought it was going to come in well below consensus, below 1% eventually revised to a contraction came in well above what anyone was forecasting that I could see And so I was wrong on that. But as I looked at the components, a lot of the components there showed exactly what I was looking for. We have a recession in place. It's just a matter of it's playing out and some of these other funny numbers getting worked out. The reality is on the downside.

2:37:09 where you have mixed pressures right now. People are really concerned about the economy and that includes President Trump, particularly looking at re-election. But he's been pushing on the economy for a long time. He's I've been arguing the Fed should lower rates. I'm with them. The Fed created this circumstance. They're pushing for the economy on the upside because they want to continue raising rates. Banks make more money there and they're still trying to liquidate the problems that they created by the banking system bailout back in 2008. It's an extraordinary time. I can't remember anything quite like this.

2:37:51 Ultimately, I'm looking at our going into a new recession by the end of this year. I see the Fed being forced into renewed easing, perhaps quantitative easing. I have, I mean, I'm not an economist, but I have the feeling too. I don't, I'm not buying these numbers. Everything's so great. I'm just not seeing it. And on the GDP, and this is in the show notes, it's a pretty good interview, he explains the trade balance changes. And that affects GDP and the reason the trade balance changed is not because we start exporting a lot more, in fact quite the opposite because of the way he says it. The rate increases by the Federal Reserve that we saw in the past year and a half have actually stopped spending. So we're just buying minder list crap from China and other countries. And that's why the GDP number is up because of the trade balance, but not because we're doing so great.

2:38:51 Well, he just kind of explains the apparently Trump has been suggesting a quantitative easing QE by no what number we buy now. Yeah. In right in the face of the of the GDP being three point two, which also surprised Horowitz quite a bit because he had this rather elaborate theory as to why it was so good in the fourth quarter. And he expected a drop off and I think Williams must have expected something lower too. But they've been futzing with the numbers and it started with Obama.

2:39:31 I mean, if you look at Williams's charts for unemployment and inflation, especially unemployment, you look at where the three lines, because there's the U6, U4. Well, it's a number of four, but there's a shadow stats number and they're pretty much clumped together and they follow a certain pattern. They're all lined up in parallel. And then all of a sudden it diverges right when Obama gets in office and it just goes completely because they start to lie about the numbers. And I think they're still doing it. I think Trump was bitched about this in the past. He's always bitched about the numbers and now he's doing it too. Yeah, well he's, yes, he's taking credit. Maybe he's not. Maybe he wants to stop it. Well, what he, well, what I see him saying is, look at how great the numbers are. Guys, stop, stop. We're going to die here. We're going to die. He knows. I mean, I think he actually understands this very well, this macro stuff. And he understands the payments and he certainly understands interest rates.

2:40:36 So I'm in agreement. I think it I think we're on the on the cusp, but just feel I have no no Academic backup for this other than I can just see it I see the stores closing lots of stores closing in downtown Austin lots of pop-up stores Hey here We are for two for two weeks and all the the little boutiques all going out of business can't afford the rents Which is a direct result of the interest going up correct? It would have a lot to do with it, people jacking up the rents and it just, but around here it's hard to see except for the homeless situation and the poop on the street and all the rest of it. It looks as though there's like, as somebody's fooling themselves, we got the traffic problems of a boom.

2:41:24 We have huge traffic problems because of the boom. So the traffic's all jacked up. There's jobs to be had because of the boom. But parallel to the boom, there's this mess. And it's even here where there shouldn't be the mess at all, considering we shouldn't have the city of San Francisco crawling with homeless tents, encampments all over the place, poop on the street, everybody drugged up. It just shouldn't be there. It shouldn't be paralleling the boom, and it is, and it's a bad sign as far as I'm concerned. At least it's kind of... I agree. It's just not good. I agree. We have the same in Austin. They're doing nothing about it. They can't afford to. The potholes are a problem. If everything's booming, why don't you fix the damn potholes? Yes, on that very happy note of we're all going to die,

2:42:16 We're going to leave you. We know you'll want to come back on Thursday because we'll make you happy again, I promise. Coming up on the No Agenda Stream after this, Grumpy Old Ben's episode 7, Cord Cutting. That should be fun to listen to. Part of our No Agenda Stream network of shows. And coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas, which is in FEMA region number 6, I'd like to say in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where my advice is to eat pig while you can. I'm John C. Dvorak. Special thanks to Cyborg Dave, Tarp Starkweather and Sir Seatsitter for End of Show Mixes. We return Thursday. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios mofos, happy Cinco de Mayo and such.

2:43:10 Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. I'm just your entertainment. Get on the table, we must do it! This is a big boner. Get it on! Moist. Uh, this fish is raw. It's a great pleasure. Well, you know, if I hit the right button.

2:43:51 Everyone knows that a tie around the neck, especially if you tie it properly, it cuts down, it cuts your blood to the brain. You'd be surprised how effective it is to come to these things. I've been timing it. It's better than a vaccine. Beef or fish, you could have the ribs or the salmon. Fish or ribs, what you gonna pick, John? Fish or ribs? Too bad you're getting salmon. Ribs or fish? You gotta pick a dish. Sorry to break it to you, John, but the ribs are also farmed. Some people like fish. See, here's the problem I have with that fish. Fish or ribs? What you gonna pick, John? With your fish. Or any fish. Too bad! You're getting salmon!

2:44:54 It's salmon, and it's probably farmed. The problem with farmed salmon is the... it squeaks when you chew on it. It squeaks between the teeth. And when you cook it, this white ooze... Yes, yes. If the farmed salmon has the white ooze, not a fan. Not a fan of sweet. Unfortunately, there was a snafu and you're getting salmon, sorry.

2:45:43 Take it from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John. You might want to have some memories later on. And it's going to go away if you trust it to Instagram. Here's a crazy idea. Here's a crazy, crazy thought that I've advocated for many times. Print some out. What you just said, I think is a great idea. I've been saving photos all my life. And I know that at least one or two of my drives will never fire up again. Just take a couple. Make a selection. You know, two or three quote-unquote rolls on a thumb drive and take it to Costco and they'll print these things out inexpensively about the same you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself. Fairly inexpensively and you will have these backups and they actually, the gear that the big print guys have is a little better than what you generally have. Incredibly sad that they're storing this on Instagram.

2:46:34 And that can go away, you know, that can get deleted, you can get kicked off, anything can happen. And just imagine, it's going to be an entire generation of children who get old and die, and there's going to be nothing left. Maxine, a step away from the crackpot

2:47:14 Those days are over, they called you out on Fox tonight Maxine, you won't give up the fight And call for Trump's impeachment You don't care if it's wrong or if it's right Maxine, step away from the crackpot Maxine is always drunk. Stay away from the crack house. Go down the crack house. Stay away from the crack house. Stay away from the crack house. The best podcast in the universe! mofo.dvorak.org slash n-a Only in San Francisco!