Episode 1103 · Tuesday, 15 January 2019

Act IX

Corporate news filters and new presidential bids collide as the media establishment attempts to reassert control over the digital landscape through rating systems and selective editing.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1103

About this episode

NewsGuard launches a browser extension using human analysts to rate the credibility of digital outlets, sparking concerns over algorithmic bias and corporate censorship. The project, backed by the Publicis Group and an advisory board featuring Michael Hayden and Tom Ridge, assigns red warnings to independent sites like Breitbart while granting green status to mainstream networks. Critics argue the system functions as a brand-safety tool for advertisers rather than a neutral arbiter of truth.

Representative Tulsi Gabbard and former San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro officially enter the 2020 presidential race, signaling a shift in Democratic party dynamics. Gabbard faces establishment scrutiny over her anti-war stance and past meetings with Bashar al-Assad, while Castro positions himself against potential rival Beto O'Rourke. Meanwhile, the FBI investigation into whether Donald Trump acted as a Russian asset faces criticism following reports of deceptive editing by CBS News during a Mike Pompeo interview.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the Ninth Act of the Yellow Vest protests in France and the accelerating movement of the magnetic north pole toward Siberia. The duo examines the University of California, Davis language guide on words that hurt and the failure of the social reputation app Klout. The broadcast concludes with a look at the Havana Syndrome cricket theory and the BBC proposal for insect-based pet food.


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CHAPTER 01 / 50 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak on Podcast Longevity

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast from Austin and Silicon Valley, reflecting on the 2020 election cycle. They discuss the physical and mental toll of producing the show and contemplate whether it is time to let younger creators take over. Dvorak argues that their unique value stems from decades of life experience that younger broadcasters lack.

adam curry· john c dvorak· austin· silicon valley· podcasting· retirement

00:00 I never thought about it much, but...I think you might be right. Preparing for our 2020 Nixit and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas in the Cluedio. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley... I am here with some Jake Minstroten chest anise flavored menthol cough suppressant. I'm John C DeVore It's Crackpot & Boskill!

00:41 Did I throw you off track with my 2020 nexit? Were you thinking about it?" I heard that, yeah. It totally had me... Oh my God no! Yeah oh yeah. John and I were talking after the last show which we rarely do except during choosing art Well yeah of course Business We talk business And I realized this morning again it's like everyone is announcing we're two years ahead of an election I think you and I really only can do 24 months of this and then we'll just either have to stop I am just... We've been thinking about this. It's, it just might be time to let some younger folk in to do this. Therein lies the rub! What? Well.. The problem- Oh there goes the Zephyr. Ah thank goodness One two three four five six seven eight EIGHT?! Only eight what!? Holy mackerel that is smallest zephyr i have ever seen. OH MY GOD!!!

01:44 Yes, therein lies the rub you said yeah therein lies the rub do tell what the problem is Dimensionality of our show really relies on the fact that both of us are very we're old. Yeah We have experience and store and I have experienced in fact I have a kinds of experiences including working During the summer when I was in high school And I think even maybe the eighth grade, because there were jobs available for kids. It was like not uncommon and where you get a lot of varied experience and then you can relate some other things you've learned over a long period of time it's pretty hard for somebody just waltz in with book learning and really be able to accomplish what we do. Okay.

CHAPTER 02 / 50 Discussion

Media Use of Lashed Out Phrase Regarding Admiral Bill McRaven

The discussion focuses on the media's use of the phrase "lashed out" to describe Donald Trump's criticisms of retired Admiral Bill McRaven. McRaven, a former Navy SEAL and commander of the operations against Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, is characterized as a Hillary Clinton supporter. The hosts analyze how news outlets like Mother Jones use specific terminology to signal political alignment.

bill mcraven· donald trump· mother jones· navy seal· media bias

02:37 But still, that's nothing to do with us. We're just gonna be so tired of this crap! It's unbelievable... it's a hard job protecting people's amygdala Well, it is and the media of course doesn't help at all. My favorite thing was I saw it for two or three places and I'm noticing this and I've said that I've talked about on the show before but now I realize it's one of those code words that the left uses when they do their writing to signal where you know I'm on your side And the word is a phrase lashed out

03:15 Yes. So Amy does it all the time, I noticed in mother Jones there's a big headline Donald Trump lashed out at Navy 34 year Navy seal is talking about McRaven who was actually had four star Admiral which seems a little more impressive than being a seal right? But apparently everybody else felt to being a seal was more important and it was easier for the city lashed out so I got found where he lashed out and this This is McRaven lashes out or Trump lashes. It says start just the clip it says McGraven. Bill McRaven

03:51 Retired Admiral, Navy SEAL 37 years. Former head of US Special Operations. Hillary Clinton fan. Special operations... Excuse me! Hillary Clinton fan Who led the operations, commanded the operations that took down Saddam Hussein and that killed Osama Bin Laden says your sentiment is the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime He's a Hillary Clinton backer and Obama backer And frankly, wouldn't it have been nice if we got Osama Bin Laden a lot sooner than that? I'm not sure why he said that. That's your lashing out! I don't know if it would have made any difference if we got him any sooner than we got him Well the thing that was interesting in that clip and you couldn't quite hear is that as Trump is complaining about McRaven

04:40 Chris Wallace is rolling his eyes no no he's a gas at everything he says but he's a 37-year Navy SEAL as if that some sort of I guess when you, if you're a Navy SEAL for...I don't think he worked as a SEAL. No probably not. Doing demolition for 37 years but it was a SEAL for 37 years He says that is though some sort of makes him an untouchable You can't say anything about these guys Why is that? That's the elite of our armed forces who need to be at war continuously They are the true heroes

CHAPTER 03 / 50 Discussion

Chris Wallace Interview with Donald Trump on Fake News

Donald Trump and Chris Wallace engage in a heated debate regarding the definition of "fake news" during a Fox News interview. Trump clarifies that he views the "fake news media" as the enemy of the people, rather than the entire journalistic profession. Wallace challenges this rhetoric, suggesting it mirrors language used by authoritarian leaders in Russia, China, and Venezuela to suppress the press.

chris wallace· donald trump· fox news· fake news· enemy of the people

05:22 There was also, he was also, this is part of a series of interviews Chris Wallace did with Trump. And I'm gonna play a short part of another one as a 152 clip. It's not the whole thing but I wanna set it up. This is Chris Wallace and Trump discussing fake news where Wallace talks about fake news and does the correct Trump quote but very slowly still finds that If you say fake news is the enemy of the people, you are saying and Wallace is totally convinced to this. You are saying the media Oh really? So it's not the fake news It's no fake news according to Chris I mean if you listen to him in a way he defends that or attacks Trump essentially

06:11 He is flabbergasted. Trump keeps trying to say, no I'm saying fake news! I'm not talking about the media like the media. Fake news, fake news. Wait a minute now and who is he talking with? Chris Wallace of Fox. And then by the way, right, I will say this if you heard any of this stuff it's so obvious that Chris Wallace is a major Democrat. I think just just to reiterate for anyone who's relatively new because we haven't actually broach this topic in a couple of months. Trump and the way we always understood it was Trump said fake news is the enemy of the people not the journalists Not free press not the news media. No fake news media I think he did once say yes CNN fake news, I think he equated them to Fake News. I think he's said CNN fake news more than once now But he actually in in context of fake news being the enemy of people so yeah Maybe let's get to the bigger issue

07:09 2017 last year you tweeted this and I want to quote it accurately the fake news media is not my enemy It is the enemy of the American people 100% Not the media. I'm glad you're finally quoting it correctly because they like to leave the fake news, okay? But that's what you say fake news so but there are supporting me in particular They're very smart people their hard-working brilliant, great people. They know when the news is fake and they get angry when they see all of the fakeness that frankly... There have been people who've been critical of other presidents there no president has liked his press coverage John Kennedy in your Oval Office canceled a subscription to The New York Herald Tribune

07:57 Nobody called it the enemy of the American people. Chris, I'm calling the fake news is the enemy... It's fake! It's phony! But a lot of times there is just news you don't like No, no, I do not mind getting bad news if I am wrong If I do something wrong Like for instance the cemetery I was not allowed to go because of the Secret Service Because they expected me to take a helicopter They had zero visibility. They said, sir we are totally unequipped for you to go in addition to that the cemetery was far too far away from Air Force One which is sort of like a control center where you had to be near now one paper that I saw wrote it that way they said I stayed out of it because of the rain and yet the following day

08:39 I made a speech at the American cemetery. It was pouring, it wasn't even really raining the first day but the fog was tremendous okay? But sir leaders in authoritarian countries like Russia China Venezuela now repressed the media using your words Fake fake fake fake You are fake news This is fake news So either Wallace isn't listening Which is likely, but he's also been infected.

09:18 He's totally infected. He's not listening at all and then he goes on to say that Russia, China and Venezuela are using his words to justify media suppression with or without his words they have media suppression What is this point? But as far as he's concerned fake news is the media And Trump says the media is the enemy of the people That is the way it turns out if you listen to the whole thing It's like a jaw-dropper And Trump even... There's no way on Trump side on this argument. Trump even thought that he was, oh I'm so glad you bring that up! You're on my side! No!

CHAPTER 04 / 50 Discussion

NewsGuard Browser Extension and Media Rating Criteria

The NewsGuard browser extension is introduced as a tool that uses human analysts to rate the credibility and transparency of news websites. The hosts test the plugin on various sites, noting that InfoWars receives a red warning while CNN and Fox News receive green ratings. They examine the "nutrition label" feature which details site ownership, financing, and adherence to journalistic standards.

newsguard· browser extension· infowars· cnn· media credibility

09:57 You know it's true. This is fake news. These are so good! You know it's fake news We haven't played those in a long time Yeah Well there is some help on the horizon unless you have more of the Chris Wallace interview No, that's all I have of that little bit because they're the lashing out The lashing out Fake News Keep an eye out for that phrase people Fake News Is Going To Be Combated Are Your Savior Is Here It's called NewsGuard. Well, you know you have to think of it as the credit catch 22 oops wrong clip With my incredibly cool intro yeah I will try it again We'll cut it out no one will ever know I did it wrong NewsGuard and now there's a great plug-in to help you navigate through the world of fake news It's called NewsGuard it won't ping up

10:49 up fake news alerts like the anti-virus software when you click on a story link. For now, NewsGuard provides descriptions for news sources not individual articles or stories. So there's a whole rating system with as many as nine criteria stuff like the responsibility of journalists or telling apart news from opinion to name a couple we We use humans, not algorithms to identify unreliable news because we believe our work should be done with transparency and accountability. So this is a very interesting little project that is popping up and getting some ink this weekend NewsGuard

11:26 And I installed the plug-in so you don't have to This is great, so the way it works Oh is You install the plugin has a little shield of course. I got 18 of these shields now everyone's gonna shield and it's a shield well right now Would you have more than one? oh No, I have a shield for my ad blocker and yeah So there's all kinds of shields you have to have protection protection So it fits right in with this is protecting me from viruses and malware. Yes, probably based on the same kind of gestalt. Yes, the gestalt is correct!

12:02 But they have a rating system and they really do it not based on articles but based on the website, maybe even the domain name. So they have nine... oh yeah so when you hit a page and it'll show you varying degrees of safety in this little icon. Safety? Yeah! So if its green your safe If it's red, you're not safe. You go to InfoWars it's read with an exclamation mark. They got their own category! They do! Grand Premier Grand Cru! Yes let me go to infowars.com and click it goes red with an exclamation mark proceed with caution this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability

12:50 And then it has little information. Oh, it says a site founded and run by radio host Alec Jones that has reported among other false stories the 9-11 was orchestrated by the Bush administration and The 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School was a hoax and you can click on something that says see the full nutrition label What? Yes, right underneath that. So I'm on the... So they're going with a different... so they're using all the memes! Yep let me take a look at what happens when you click on that. Yeah like to see the nutrition label. Oh my goodness there's a whole report about ownership and financing. Is there any fantastic sorbet in there? That's what i like to know No

13:29 So it has a full web page about ownership, the content credibility transparency history so that's the nutrition label. Somebody's done some work now let's go back for a second and take a look at... one second I click on this again and underneath it is what has the categories that it has to adhere to. Credibility-it does not repeatedly publish false content Interesting. Yeah, it's a plus it hasn't but it has an X so that means this does I guess Oh So as they have x isn't checkmarks on the X side credibility does not repeatedly publish false content? I guess they do so that means in X another X for gathers and represents information responsibly whatever that means X regularly corrects or clarifies errors X handles the difference between news and opinion responsibly and

14:26 I'd love to see cnn.com we'll go in a second x avoids next avoids deceptive headlines X now we do have a couple of checks website discloses ownership and financing clearly labels advertising reveals who's in charge including any possible conflicts of interest and the site provides names of content creators along with either contact or biographical information so that they're hitting all these categories and then this criteria And it's just what I said, it's credibility transparency and they have all these little boxes. Let's take a joke let's just look at CNN because they don't think they understand the difference between opinion and news No CNN gets a green check Oh good to go there. Of course they do Give me a how- oh lets try Dvorak dot org or what would be is it blog dot Dvorak dot org? No Dvorak dot org slash blog is what it is officially Okay Dvorak dot org

CHAPTER 05 / 50 Discussion

NewsGuard Advisory Board and Publicis Group Investment

An investigation into NewsGuard's leadership reveals an advisory board featuring Tom Ridge, Michael Hayden, and Richard Stengel. The hosts identify the Publicis Group, a major advertising conglomerate, as a key investor. They conclude the project's primary goal is "brand safety," helping advertisers avoid placing content on independent or controversial websites like Breitbart.

tom ridge· michael hayden· publicis group· stephen brill· brand safety

15:16 Slash blog you have an empty your shield is empty. You're neither here nor there Yeah, oh wait submit this site for review Oh will do it yeah here we go and I have to submit my email address which is John at Dvorak org submits The site was submitted for review by our staff now We'll stay tuned for that but here's what's a little more interesting for you And I and for our no agenda producers Let's take a look at who these people are. Who is running this news guard? See if we know anybody here... Well, they got a lot of staff John Alsop do we know him? No one I really recognize here but i did recognize a couple of members of the advisory board Tom Ridge. Tom Ridge the Homeland Security guy under Bush yep Richard Stengle

16:12 former editor of Time magazine, and undersecretary of state in the Obama administration. He's Obamabots! Well not Ridge but... General Michael Hayden, former director CIA John Baier, he is a lawyer Elise Jordan political analyst NBC former speechwriter for Condoleezza Rice John Battelle was he Wired Magazine? John Battelle's on there. Yes, I'm the advisory board along with Jessica lesson less see yeah She's the girl that runs some me information news Yeah the information and then we have oh aren't their investors? I will say this these people except for Ridge are all very left-leaning The investors, I don't know. I don't know all these names Stephen Brill

17:10 Why does that ring a bell? Stephen Brill's an old hack from New York who did Brill Magazine and... Oh, that's right. Yes. He is very famous kind of a hack guy that never really made out much. Gordon Krovitz means nothing to me. Nicholas Penman IV and Nicholas Penman V, nothing. Ah! Here is my favorite the Publices Group pretty much the relations operation one of the big boys and if you look now at what they have and I think this is ultimately what this thing is about it's not about protecting you no, It's about protecting the income of the publicist group. Yes And we see this by looking at the menu of NewsGuard newsguard tech comm we have ratings how it works news literacy press About Us

17:57 Brand safety. Oh, let's click on brand safety Yes! Finally it says here a way to protect brand safety by keeping ads off unreliable news websites So this is a very interesting way to approach their brand safety issue, which we know has been the problem since advertising on the internet. Since day one! Yeah... So now instead of them having to figure out where they should you know if you have these these networks it's ad networks and yeah they buy it on a real-time almost like a stock market basis and just floods everything in no matter how many times angry gorillas or what's that outfit named? Sleeping giants.

18:41 I don't know. Sleeping Giants, that's the name? Yeah they always shame everyone oh you're advertising on Tucker Carlson or you're advertising on Breitbart do you know that this ad network is running your ad on this horrible Nazi website so now they won't have to worry about that because everyone can protect themselves and that will protect the safety of the brands because remember... You right, once we did a real-time analysis On the spot. And that's what it is! Boom! That's exactly what it is. It's to protect- It's a scam! It's not for you, it's for your God, the advertiser. Everyone in America knows who the real boss is. There ya go...

CHAPTER 06 / 50 Discussion

NewsGuard Ratings for Breitbart, Drudge, and Wikipedia

The hosts continue testing NewsGuard on various digital platforms, noting that Breitbart is flagged with a red exclamation mark while the Drudge Report remains unrated. Wikipedia receives a blue informational icon due to its user-generated nature. They suggest the rating system is biased against independent media and serves the interests of large advertising agencies.

breitbart· drudge report· wikipedia· snopes· newsguard

19:25 Nice any other website you want me to check with the news guard before I uninstall this? CNN you already gave it they get the green life or do the best yeah Fox News Oh Green! Fox goes full green This is not against mainstream left or right. This is against independence Yeah, let's find some independents What's a good independent? How about... Breitbart Oh perfect! Good one, yes, Breitbart OH! Red with an exclamation mark! Breitbart's bad No very bad Oh Drudge then Put Drudge if they have anything on him Drudge? Okay... Drudge

20:15 Empty. He just says empty, empty no news guard rating yet hmm What else is there? There's uh... Oh there's the regular ones I can't think of any offhand but there's probably a couple that would show up oddly. They portray stars and stripes. This is interesting yeah I went to Wikipedia Wikipedia gets a blue icon shield with an little eye for information Let's see what it says. This website is a platform that publishes content from its users that it does not vet Information from this source may not be reliable Huh, what do they say on Twitter? I think there's a lot of fake news there isn't there

20:58 Twitter loaded. Twitter has nothing No, really? Yeah Well they should have some because that's where the advertisers are yes their money is the most important part now about Facebook dead I don't want I don't have I can't log in but I can go to the page now It's the same it's just empty empty hmm how about snoops Snopes that doesn't take advertising why would they bother snopes is good to go green checkmark all good Anyway, doesn't matter. It's about the advertisers and that's why one of the biggest or I don't know if they're the biggest but one of the investors is Publisys One of the biggest advertising conglomerates out there Huge public relations advertising operation that's monstrous

21:48 And they're looking for any way they can to streamline their brand safe, you know knowledge. Bull crap! So they don't have to look at anything there. You know these guys that never years ago when the advertising buyers took over the place of all a bunch of just graduated women from Ivy League colleges that don't look at any of the magazines at all. They just go go buy a bunch of reports and then they pick magazines to put the ads. And you're dumb advertiser, you go along with their program and next thing you know, you're all over them. You end up accidentally getting into unbrand safe situations that become embarrassing. This is a way of getting around that we run everything through this operation as part of a sales pitch is fantastic

CHAPTER 07 / 50 Discussion

Social Media Bots and First Amendment Rights

A discussion emerges regarding whether social media bots possess First Amendment rights to free speech. Referencing a thread on Slashdot, the hosts debate the implications of the Supreme Court's ruling that money is speech. They argue that while bots may have speech rights, they lack the purchasing power that advertisers actually value.

social media bots· free speech· first amendment· supreme court· slashdot

22:37 Of course advertising on the internet is just at the end of its rope. It's a scam! Yeah, well it truly is I mean you take all the fake audience into account and the arbitrage between fake clicks and so-called views and bots and all this stuff yeah obviously Why don't they do instead of doing things for looking for brand safe websites via this phony mechanism how about something that really clamps down on bots? Well, you know there was a an interesting thread on slash dot that I was reading yesterday the day before and the question was Do bots social media bots have freedom of speech? And I think If it well seriously if you think about Congress shall make no laws regarding the freedom of speech

23:29 It doesn't stipulate that's just people. I mean if money is speech, which the Supreme Court ruled...I think Twitter or social media bots have free speech too! Ultimately- Okay let's say they have free speech. So what? They still shouldn't be pumping up the numbers on some site because they may have free speech which we've determined that they do just right now. Real time baby! Does it mean they have any buying power? They got no buying power They have no purchasing power. They're useless! Now just along these lines, when we were talking about net neutrality which California has now I think is just all in and you know we have a number of gripes about it and we think it's very bad and it's a bad idea because you do not want to give any type of regulatory powers over the internet to government body And one of the main things if you can recall

CHAPTER 08 / 50 Discussion

India Social Media Law and Net Neutrality Concerns

New legislation in India mandates that social media platforms like Facebook remove "unlawful content" that threatens national sovereignty. The hosts point to this as a real-world example of how regulatory powers over the internet can be abused by governments to suppress specific political views, such as maps of Kashmir. They link this development to their ongoing criticisms of net neutrality.

india· kashmir· facebook· net neutrality· censorship

24:27 your internet provider would be able to block. Do you remember the terminology? No Unlawful network traffic or unlawful content Yeah And I bring this up because there's a story that came out today An alarming piece of legislation is about to enter into force in India next month, mandating that social media platforms such as Facebook remove unlawful content such as posts that affect the sovereignty and integrity of India. Meaning that this law could easily be abused by New Delhi to demand the internationally recognized Pakistani map to be banned because it contradicts India's maximalist claims to Kashmir

25:14 So I the point. I bring up here is that here is a country saying That map is not legal it is unlawful and therefore you may not Surface that on your platforms literally the definition of unlawful content by an authoritarian regime Yeah, there you go, and there's your net neutrality. There's your net neutrality in a box With a bow around it. Yeah, one of many examples I'm sure but let's just stick on free speech for a second Here it is

CHAPTER 09 / 50 Discussion

Alex Jones Sandy Hook Defamation Lawsuit Discovery

The families of Sandy Hook victims won a legal victory allowing them pretrial access to InfoWars' internal documents and records. The hosts discuss whether Alex Jones' claims about the shooting are protected under freedom of the press or if they constitute actionable defamation. They compare his showmanship to mainstream media figures like Jim Acosta.

alex jones· infowars· sandy hook· defamation· legal victory

25:52 This is a quick news report. Legal victory for the families of victims of the Sandy Hook shooting massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. The families of six victims won pretrial access to information about controversial host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his program InfoWars. The family sued Jones for defamation for his repeated claims that the deadly shooting was a hoax. 20 elementary students and six educators were murdered during that rampage. So this is Bill, the headline is a little different than this kind of sober report. The headline is Alex Jones loses legal battle! You know you think the guys already lost the whole court case but they're actually allowed to subpoena company records and I think internal documents... Alex Jones' operation? Yes

26:40 Yeah, so is he protected under free speech? Is he protected under the freedom of the press? Yeah, I don't know what that got to do with this case when you're getting sued. Well he's being sued for protected from investigation not protected from discovery He's being sued for defamation yeah if you've been sued for defamation and they discover everything goes through you start climbing through people's records But i'm asking a different question If your news gathering, I'm just trying to look at it 360 a whole perspective. If your news gathering brings you to the conclusion that this was either fake false flag hoax and you keep repeating that is that invalid reporting? It could be fake news but it's still news. You know I think

27:37 I think if you do the work and those are the conclusions you draw without any underlying prejudices like CNN or New York Times for that matter, according to Jill Abramson. But only on the iPad. I think that's fine, but what they're trying to do is circumvent... Well here's just what you said and asked which is a logical question and what they're doing makes me think that they are trying to prove that it's not what happened. Jones didn't do any work on this and there was a memo in there saying hey we can milk this and sell more vitamins You don't think there's a memo like that at NBC?

28:25 Well, the NBC is not being sued. No of course not but so yes gotcha and with that then still not be considered journalism I think you would well in So far as slander and libels concerned uh i think that'd be a smoking gun hmm but definitely discreditation of alternative news sources Yeah. Because he bills himself as a news source. Yeah, and you do get some news from his operation sometimes it's pretty interesting yeah so I'm not saying he's not a new source i think is the news source generally just wraps in a lot of vitriol and showmanship. No different than lots of M5M outfits right Jim Acosta Showmanship Oh, Acosta is one of the worst. I loved his thing at The Wall though His stand-up was great

CHAPTER 10 / 50 Discussion

CNN Rejection of KUSI San Diego Border Report

CNN reportedly declined to air a segment from KUSI San Diego after the local station's reporter, Dan Platte, found that the border wall is effective. KUSI, an independent station, claimed CNN spiked the story because it contradicted their narrative that a wall is unnecessary. The hosts criticize the shallow nature of modern network journalism and its reliance on social media trolling.

cnn· kusi· san diego· border wall· dan platte

29:21 Yeah, he was doing the way I saw that too. It's... I'm here and there is no problem at this- at the wall! I didn't quite understand You think that the editor just was like, ah it's Acosta we'll just put him- put his thing on He is always good not to worry about it and they didn't watch it? Well, there's they have a did now. There's a place that someone should go in and look for the hidden agenda for example CNN Reached out to KUSI and I have a clip here This is good story it's now as kusi an affiliate of any network are they completely independent? They may be independent. I'm not sure I'll look it up. I'll look at you play or you can look it up

29:58 Uh, but anyways they called C K U S I cause K U S is down on the border and they wanted to get a re they didn't want to send anyone there. And so they decided to sit and get some local reporters to do this story on the border wall. Yeah. The story didn't come out the way CNN wanted it because they find that the border wall would be effective. And so CNN just, they just spiked it as a sign of the I'm just gonna say that pissed these guys off enough that they do this report. As a sign of the times in this debate on the shutdown, CNN asked if KUSI would provide a reporter to offer our local view of the debate especially learn if The Wall works in San Diego. KUSI offered our own Dan Platt who's reported many times that The Wall is not an issue here In fact most officials believe it is effective

30:47 The issue we face is the migrants and the debate over their treatments. Now knowing this, CNN declined to have us on their programs which often present the wall as not required in other places like the stretch of the Texas border that President Trump visited earlier today They didn't like what they heard from us Just some background for you I think CNN is doubling down aren't they? Nah! We deny reports all the time Let's see what these McKinnon broadcasting and McKinnon owns KIII in Corpus Christi, which is an ABC affiliate kbmt in Beaumont Which is also an ABC affiliate NBC subchannel affiliate And KUSI is independent. Yeah, they look like you're yeah These are probably the probably right wing well

31:37 Considered right way. Maybe I did who knows? Well, listen McKinnon Broadcasting Company does business as Texas television Okay, so they probably right wing yeah, right we and haters well then why would they call him you Because that's what they do. They trolled you know something happens you troll Twitter You see you say hey, can I DMU to get your story? Hey can I use your video? Can't give me permission Hey, can we talk hey? That's today's journalism shallow extremely shallow Let's see here was the this it so you played that clip by might as well play this clip from

CHAPTER 11 / 50 Discussion

Pramila Jayapal and Chris Hayes on Trump Immigration Policy

Representative Pramila Jayapal appears on MSNBC with Chris Hayes to discuss the border wall, describing Donald Trump's insistence on the project as "existential." She claims Trump's goal is to end legal immigration and maintain a "pure" America. The hosts recount past negotiations involving DACA and the "Dreamers," arguing that Democrats were the ones who ultimately balked at a deal.

pramila jayapal· chris hayes· msnbc· immigration· daca

32:22 It's a Democrat who is she she is representative Jaya Paul Jay Paul, please spell it PAYPAL Jayapal j-a-y-a-p-a-l But you look at the word. You just want to say PayPal every time you see it well here She is with Chris Hayes And I looked for the original clip because apparently he said something that led her into this. I could not find it So here's a quick one, which is doing the rounds It is fundamentally existential if he continues to insist on a wall and you know You just said it so beautifully Chris. This has never been about a wall. Yes, its existentially existential it is fundamentally hold on a second let's get this makes you understand the definition yes means survival of life

33:12 survival of life and all life will end Well, no. She's... well maybe but she's going to wrap it up in the end she saying border wall to Trump is existential because It is fundamentally existential if he continues to insist on a wall and you know You just said it so beautifully Chris this has never been about a wall He actually could have gotten funding a couple of years ago or year ago for a wall It was part of a deal that was proposed not all of us agreed with that deal But it was proposed to him and he turned it down because His ultimate goal is, as you said to make America pure in the sense of not having immigrants. Not having folks of color here and shutting down every form of legal immigration. Yeah OK so that's really out there

34:06 Yeah, well she's a nutcase in Washington State. I don't know what district she is representing... What did she say? She said something interesting there in the middle that I wanted to see. It was fundamentally wrong but it was proposed to him and he turned around. Yeah! I remember what was proposed and I think they actually said that they would uh.. The last time this came around when there was a brief shutdown as well, it was about DACA, the Dreamers, the Deferred Action Kids And on the table, I believe that the Trump administration said okay not only the million dreamers it was you know 800 thousand something like that. The million dreamers will let them stay and they'll give them a pathway to citizenship

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Hieleras Detention Centers

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticizes U.S. immigration agencies on The Rachel Maddow Show, specifically mentioning "hieleras" or freezing boxes used to hold migrant families. The hosts clarify that these are nicknames for standard short-term holding cells. They also play a clip of Barack Obama from 2014 describing a similar humanitarian crisis at the border to highlight political hypocrisy.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· rachel maddow· hieleras· immigration· barack obama

34:50 And then they balked at it, said no because you won't allow a chain migration. And I think they said okay we'll allow the dreamers and any parents who are here with them so it upped to two-two and a half million but that wasn't enough Democrats wanted all family to be able to join the chain migration. Everybody, every Tom Dick and Harry and him, yeah they want every relative everybody to come. They didn't... The Democrats didn't want it No they didn't want it exactly they really didn't want it now As I was looking for this longer clip, I found something that refers back to something AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in her rebuttal of the president's speech about the wall on The Rachel Maddow Show. And we wondered about this on the last episode. The president should not be asking for more money to an agency that has systematically violated human rights. The president should be really defending why we are funding such an agency at all

35:49 Because right now what we are seeing is death. Right now, what we are seeing is the violation of human rights These children and these families are being held in what it's called yeleras which are basically freezing boxes that No person should be maintained in for any amount of time let alone the amount of time that they're being kept on So the freezing boxes and we were like oh hold on a second What exactly she talking about turns out? In June The same PayPal lady talked about this. these women had crossed the Rio Grande come out of the river wet to turn themselves in and were immediately put into these freezing facilities. No blankets, no mats another facility they call the... So really it's a nickname for the slammer and I've received a couple of emails about this as well it's like saying hey we put him on ice we threw him in the cell yeah I'm sure it's not beautifully heated or whatever it's not the most comfortable place to be

36:58 But it's not like the way AOC made a sound is we're putting them into ice boxes Specific little thing with a handle on it, and it's like an insulated ice box And you throw them in there and lock them in yeah. It's yeah That's what she makes it sound like yes. Yeah, she's the worst pretty bad pretty bad This was out there. This was the comparison of Trump and Obama on the border situation, this is something that's real... I forget who made it but it's out there We now have an actual humanitarian crisis on the border that only underscores the need to drop the politics And fix our immigration system once and for all This is a humanitarian crisis A crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul In recent weeks we've seen a surge of unaccompanied children arrive at the border

37:52 brought here and to other countries by smugglers and traffickers. The journey is unbelievably dangerous for these kids. Child smugglers exploit the loopholes, and they gain illegal entry into the United States putting countless children in danger on the perilous trek to the United States They come up through Mexico. Protecting public safety and deporting dangerous criminals has been, and will remain the top priority We will begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country But we are going to refocus our efforts where we can To make sure that we do what it takes to keep our border secure And we want to secure our border There you go Yeah Well Draw your own conclusions You can do that till the cows come home Yeah but no one does

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White House RSS Feeds and Trump Weekly Address

The hosts complain about the removal of RSS feeds from the redesigned White House website, making it difficult to track official updates. They discover that Donald Trump appears to have stopped recording the traditional weekly presidential address in early 2017. They speculate that he prefers Twitter because the media used his recorded addresses against him.

whitehouse.gov· rss feeds· donald trump· google reader· weekly address

38:44 And the president doesn't do it yet now he's tweeting, now he's tweeting. He missed such an opportunity. Well I think we nailed it last show that he should be doing what Ross Perot did explain things and show the hypocrisy of the other side by playing clips does even do a presidential address anymore? Does he does he do a weekly thing? That weekly thing yeah I haven't looked at that in so long. This is an interesting question because apparently someone who's beat it was to watch those things Yeah, yes has well you know what happened? What happened is they changed Whitehouse gov and they removed all RSS feeds and everything links stuff total dick move Not just links this RS just feeds the ability to subscribe and see what's going on yeah There's a bit of

39:37 concerted effort to screw with RSS feeds. I think it's the big media. Well, it started with Google killing Google Reader Yeah, well Google's an agent of the big media. They're an agent of change John and they did that no I think that's when they were coming out with was the Google not Google groups was it called? Google plus yeah google plus i think that's what we go to us then they Cook slammed the door on that already They can't make anything work so it's not It's not highlighted anywhere on the website The presidential

40:17 Do a Google search. There you go! That's what I did and it just shows you lots of CNN things. Well, maybe stop doing them? Remember there was at a certain point everyone was like oh he's gonna start his own news network remember that? Oh that was during the election Mmm. He was gonna lose and start his own network no it was do it was after one of his first kind of You know weekly addresses? No, I think you're Maybe wrong oh here's a weekly radio address well here. It is my god could have be buried any further

40:58 What does he have? Yeah, yeah. He's got one no now look at this last one. He did february 3rd 2017 Oh So he stopped it we looked at his numbers. Hold on let me let me just make sure is this really right is this right That makes no sense Now screw this you ruined whitehouse.gov trump Can't even look at his numbers like a good TV guy would and says nobody's watching this They're just using the information against me. I'll tweet yeah, but he could tweet of YouTube of himself Yeah, it could that would be cool. Yeah You know there's a bunch of things He's not doing that's because of those the douchebags that he's got working for him yes, you're not helping him at all oh

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Background and Amazon HQ2

A listener from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's district provides local insight, noting that she grew up in Yorktown Heights, Westchester, rather than the Bronx. The discussion touches on her victory over Joe Crowley and the impact of the upcoming Amazon HQ2 on rents in Queens. The hosts debate whether the Clinton Foundation has any influence over her political rise.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· astoria· yorktown heights· amazon hq2· westchester

41:42 They're all deep state creeps. I got a note from a Bronx millennial about AOC, we get couple of them actually. Actually yeah i saw that we had two notes at least. Let me see how to read this one...I'm a millennial and avid listener who happens to live in AOC's district in Astoria Queens it's like he's like and I happen to be gay is like I happened to live there okay? I was not lucky enough to have her knock on my door nor did any of my friends in the area I do know of a couple Dimension B members who did meet her at rallies around the area, but I can't speak of anyone meeting her beyond that. It is mentioned much in the M5M that she's from The Bronx but she is indeed from Yorktown Heights and Westchester which is just north of The Bronx Your analysis on this show may not be too far off as Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation funded mansion in New York is in Chappaqua This is about 20 minutes south where AOC is from, Westchester County

42:33 My only issue with that was my theory is Joe Crowley who she defeated for the seat. He was an establishment Democrat who also ran as a third-party candidate against her I don't think he really ran did he? Did he actually write in for that? I thought he gave up. I think you gave up, he may have just been playing his part but what do i know anyway Amazon HQ2 will soon be jacking up my rent but I still recently signed up for a monthly donation while it maybe small now I hope to add to it in near future's I make Bezos money Keep doing what you're doing and please know that there are sane Millennials out there who love what you're doing even if your two old white dudes Thanks Sean. Yeah, I don't know was very similar it had It said that there's no chance that Hillary has she's too much of an anathema for Hillary to be part of the scheme yeah now its news we just gonna get out of the way now

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Julian Castro 2020 Presidential Campaign Announcement

Former San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro officially announces his candidacy for the 2020 presidential election. The hosts discuss the "performative" nature of his announcement and the potential rivalry with Beto O'Rourke. They also mention a trend among some progressive voters who are reluctant to support white male candidates like O'Rourke.

julian castro· san antonio· joaquin castro· beto o'rourke· 2020 election

43:27 News this weekend that maybe Joe Biden's running. He might have told somebody, but no one really knows For all Joe is just not getting anything No he's not they're gonna push him aside as fast as they can Yeah I don't think he has any chance of even getting in the race But we did have... Well he may be into first round debates We did have one of our Texas boys pipe up, San Antone. This is Julian Castro. We're gonna make sure that the promise of America is available to everyone in this 21st century You see I learned from my mother so many years ago and this community That when we want change, we don't wait for change...we work for it When my grandmother got here almost a hundred years ago

44:25 I'm sure that she never could have imagined that just two generations later, one of her grandsons would be serving as a member of the United States Congress and the other would be standing with you here today to say these words. I am a candidate for president of the United States of America! Isn't it the same guy? No no does he have his got his brother Juan And this is Julian Julio, but isn't Julian the one running he's running. Yeah Isn't he a member of Congress? No his brother is he was the mayor of San Antonio okay and These guys both these brothers were tipped if we were talking about professor Pennebaker just the other day The the professor who came up with the whole performatives measurement and

45:18 and tracking of certainly politicians using performatives. When we had one of our dinners, when people still could stand me before I got kicked out of the Obot group he was the one that was saying it's gonna be the Castro brothers maybe Marco Rubio but the Castro brother don't talk about the Castro brothers Castro brothers and they'll be fighting against Beto So it'll be interesting to see what happens. Well, there's a lot of people that hear these stories especially back in the Brooklyn area where there is this publishing operations that have people working their white girls

45:57 who will not vote for Beto. Really? Because he's white. Oh, there are so many white girls I know who love him and he is also doing the Instagram thing now. But that doesn't mean they're going to vote for him this woman is the same way she says...I love Beto! He's the greatest but I can't vote for president because he's white. Huh do you have a clip of that? I wish. I'd love to hear a clip with that I'm sure there's a clip out there available. If you just go Man on the Street, you can get one. But the Castro brothers? Doesn't seem like much of a threat to me." I think that it has changed so dramatically and one of the people I was a big fan of and I'm quite sure maybe five years ago I said this is your future president of the United States although i think that chance has been diminished because the whole Tulsi Gabbard

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Tulsi Gabbard Presidential Run and Van Jones Interview

Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii announces her 2020 presidential run during an interview with Van Jones on CNN. The hosts discuss her military background, her controversial purchase of Ethereum and Litecoin at the market peak, and her membership in the Council of Foreign Relations. They analyze Van Jones' supportive interview style and Gabbard's "Aloha" messaging.

tulsi gabbard· van jones· cnn· hawaii· cryptocurrency

46:46 Oh Tulsi, yeah we should talk about her. I have a number of clips? I've never thought she would you know when you look into Tulsi Gabbard she's got two or three strikes against her She hasn't got a chance snowballs chance in hell of going anywhere and then the progressives don't like her oh they hate her! I mean i see article after article here uh Tulsi Gabbard doesn't deserve your vote in 2020 Tulsi Gabbard's for porn policy sucks U.S. presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard bought crypto at height of bull market. Well that's a slam! That's like a hit piece! Let me pull that article up, I couldn't resist putting that in the show notes. Gabbard 37 is a fresh energetic face on the American political scene however her chances of winning the Democrat Party nomination are slim given the huge field of candidates

47:42 Wait, as CCN reported which is probably crypto coin news Tulsi Gabbard bought between $1,000 and $15,000 of Ether and Litecoin in December 2017. At the time the Bitcoin price soared to a record high of 19 and half thousand. Oh God! He bought at that top-of-the market. You put that on a disclosure too. Anyway, she announced this on the Van Jones CNN show Yes van jones which is another you know? That's why they're well his response was very interesting And I just pulled a couple of clips that I want to share we'll start with Well the obvious question is why she was Congress she was representative for Hawaii

48:32 And she left her re-election campaign to go, to be deployed to Iraq. Van asked her why? You were sitting in office you could have gone off and done something else but decided to quit and put yourself in a war zone Why did you do that? You're right I mean being a state representative in Hawaii Being with my family, being with my friends It was something that I would have been very happy to continue to do, but I knew that there was no way that I could stay home and be safe and comfortable while my brothers and sisters went off to war on the other side of the planet. That's why left my re-election campaign, volunteered to deploy got trained in a job they needed someone to fill, and went to serve with them, to serve our country

49:20 Um... sketchy. I believe that to be true, I think- I believed that she wasn't gonna get reelected Maybe? Uh, I think she's very sincere but the problem is She has all of the elements to contend in the Beto League She could even know she has no social media skills that I can tell you know, she's like he's a surfer. She's an army vet She's cute You know if they if she would play that up, you know Like BAM she's on the surfboard Mahalo bitches run your country, you know She could do so much and they would buy it get on Instagram. Well, she's not gonna go that route There's no doubt about that for what this is a couple of her downsides once she's a Hindu

50:04 And that is not going to help getting elected as president until people can maybe see things a little differently, even though we have other Hindus and I think most of them tend to be Republicans that are in office. You think it's too early for a non-Christian president? Yes. Well what about Obama then?! The second... well he faked it! Okay. Uh yes, everyone knows I think he's Muslim By the way, can I just correct you? Can I just correct you? You never say she's a Hindu. You say she just happens to be Hindu

50:45 Yeah, I think it might be Hindi. The point is the real one that's gotten my attention is that she's on the Council of Foreign Relations Oh there's more than that How does that work for her? Let's listen to her announcement with Van but in particular please listen to Van Jones Now this was softball all the way It was set up he setting her up for everything Setting her up with questions Is a very friendly show I could go on that show and I would not make a fool of myself But Van really has an agenda. I got the ratings! She just announced that she's gonna upend her life to run as a candidate for President of the United States and Van Jones is thinking, I GOT RATINGS!!! Yeah. He's a douche. Listen to this... He doesn't have ratings and should've done it on any other show especially you know Jimmy Fallon or something. I wanna hear him again. She needs an agent. I got the ratings!!

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Democratic Strategy for 2020 and Gavin Newsom

The hosts speculate that many 2020 candidates are actually positioning themselves for 2024 or a high-profile speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention. They identify California Governor Gavin Newsom as a major future contender, though they note he may face challenges within a party increasingly focused on identity politics.

gavin newsom· barack obama· hillary clinton· 2024 election· democratic convention

52:15 I got the writings, got the writings. Here's what she's up to, I believe. Everyone knows that you're not going to... The 2020 thing is either they're gonna go to Hillary or it's gonna be very difficult to beat Trump unless they put so much bad thoughts into American public's mind that they can actually get somebody in and then it is possible I mean, there are these one-termers that come and go tend to be the George Bush. It has to it has something do with the economy if the economy has a nice collapse just before the election it's getting a little late for the economic collapse but it could still...there is still time. We're so hopeful! But the idea of why not? So that but the idea is you want to get your name out there to the point where you can give a major speech Obama like at

53:07 at the Democratic Convention. And it has to be well written by a bunch of pros is what Obama did four years before he got It was a 2004 Democratic convention. He gave this wonderful speech and when I saw him do that, I said this guy... Everybody knew it! Everybody saw it. Everybody knew it. Everyone who has a brain. That was the first year they had bloggers at the convention and he sat down with every single one of them. He's the smartest one. Yeah well she's hoping to get a spot to give the super speech and maybe get that kind of attention because everyone's gonna look for it. That's what you're looking for, we're all looking at 2024 2020 nobody cares Hillary may run again as I think she still has the upper hand but in 2024 are going to have a couple of major people that want to run. She is one of them You know it would be AOC who should be doing the... AOC is too stupid

54:05 Gavin Newsom is the guy to keep an eye on. Oh, Gavin Newsom! But the problem is Gavin Newsom is so white that he's got a problem and he doesn't even know it I mean Gavin Newsom has been setting himself up since he was kind of just a guy in San Francisco going you know running for city council running for mayor get the mayor's job And he's a good looking, you know, kind of guy that has a certain attraction to certain kinds of women. He always says the right things and got slightly gravelly voice and he would do nothing but that is fine by most people standards just want somebody in there who rubber stamps the Democrat side

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Tulsi Gabbard Anti-War Stance and Party Criticism

Tulsi Gabbard's campaign rhetoric is examined, including her use of Martin Luther King Jr. quotes and her "Aloha" philosophy. The hosts discuss why the Democratic establishment is hostile toward her, citing her meeting with Donald Trump regarding Syria and her perceived sympathy for Bashar al-Assad. They also recall her past support for military intervention during the Ebola crisis.

tulsi gabbard· bashar al-assad· syria· martin luther king jr· anti-war

54:48 But he's white and the Democrats have created a situation for themselves. Well, he has taken one social justice warrior step in the right direction by claiming he does not have a first lady. He as a first partner? Yes. Well, he does stuff like that. He's also the one night we had to clip the other day of him giving away this store. He's making these are mistakes. Let me play just the final clip I have on Tulsi Gabbard and this is about running against President Trump. So how would you take on a Donald Trump? I mean, you seem kind of aloha and he seems kind of aloha huh? He's not trying to aloh with your ha! What?! He's not trying to aloh with your ha that's ISO worthy now that i think abou it

55:37 So how would you take on a Donald Trump? I mean, you seem kind of aloha and he seems kind of aloha. He's not trying to aloha with your ha. Aloha which essentially means love. Love for each other. Love for our country should not be mistaken for just some feeling. Love is action when you love someone you will do anything to fight for them When you love something, you will go to the end of the earth to fight for it. Love gives us strength, love gives us courage... Love gives us what we need to overcome those forces of darkness. What did she say?

56:22 You're listening to part of her speech for the convention. Oh, yes and here comes... She's woodshedding some stuff here. Oh yeah and she's gonna finish it up but you're so just now that you say this absolutely she's gonna finish it with a Martin Luther King quote which Van Jones does not know. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Martin Luther King and you know this where he says darkness cannot drive out darkness only light can do that Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that. Van, jump in there thought the quote was over. Doesn't know Martin Luther King. Sorry excuse for a black man Van Jones Good catch but you're right that she's doing her speech right there well she's working on so this is bits of it

57:12 If she's testing, this is the market. This is testing you on these shows you test a little bit see what Todd the reaction is start putting it together Then you get some professionals in there to help if she does that I think she won't I don't think she has the chops to do that, but she gets some pros in there. Superstars like Obama had that kid who was a genius. The writer? Yeah, that writer kid and... Wait is that the same kid who's on the Pod Save America? Is that him? Maybe it could be him, that guy Then you knock them dead at the convention, but then first there's two problems. One is you've got to get a prime time slot which is not that easy especially since you're already seen as a schmuck by the party and

58:01 It's gonna be tough. I don't think she has much of a prayer of getting anywhere She really doesn't as much, I guess what was more interesting or just as interesting to me is how appropriate and really good she was four five years ago She could go somewhere You know? She's anti-war The Democratic Party hates her because she went to see Trump pretty quickly after he took office To talk about getting out of Syria And of course she's seen as an Assad lover. She's really the grilling her or just roasting her Yeah, man the other hand she also did Support sending half a half a billion dollars and troops to Africa at the fight ebola So she's kind of on my shit list I do have an update on that

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Democratic Republic of Congo Election Dispute

The presidential election in the Democratic Republic of Congo is mired in controversy as runner-up Martin Fayulu demands a recount. Fayulu, who has ties to ExxonMobil, accuses the declared winner, Felix Tshisekedi, of making a power-sharing deal with the outgoing dictator. The hosts question whether this is a proxy conflict between U.S. and European interests.

democratic republic of congo· martin fayulu· exxonmobil· ebola· felix tshisekedi

58:48 Now you'll recall that troops went to the Congo for Ebola. Ebola I guess is no longer an issue, we don't hear about it anymore In fact before the election people were wrecking the ebola camps which seems like a really smart thing to do You know if you're really pissed off by your government go kick down the tents where people with Ebola are lying down Unless maybe they didn't have Ebola? I dunno And we had the Shuin guy, who works for ExxonMobil. I'm now thinking that he might... this may be a US-EU war and i'll tell you why. Fayala or Fayula whatever his name is the guy who came in runner up

59:29 who was Exxon Mobil, he was you know tipped to be the guy. We hadn't even heard of the guy who won the election it was just the son of some radical back in the day who was in Brussels the most recent part of his life doing quote odd jobs as an African and Brussels does And so now this no-name guy who does have historical ties to the regime that is leaving now he all of a sudden wins the election. This does not sit well with Africa today. Thomas, you were outside that court today a short while ago when Fayoulou went in to demand the recount and you managed to catch a few words with him what did he have to say? Martin, Fayoulou told me when he arrived that this election is the people's victory and it cannot be taken away from the people just because of negotiations

1:00:27 between uh... the government and he needs to take it because this is what martin faulconer uh... here you can't that phoenix ticketing was given in the president's indicating negotiated a power sharing deal with the current government uh... the whole of morning on saturday night by news lawyers were at the constitutional court in order to bring all the necessary documents to file the appeal. Among these documents there are the recounts from every polling station according to Martin Fayou and his team of witnesses that were deployed in this field on the day." So, this clip has one other piece of information... so what the accusation here is that this guy came in

1:01:21 He made a deal with the pretty much dictator who's been reigning there for what is now 13 years, I think. Who was clearly our guy! You can't tell me that the Chinese are doing this now? This has got to be our guy and our guy in and everything seems to be reasonably calm but what's really interesting... it's a little hard to hear he goes on to say that in the Senate or their Parliament The guy who won has, you know like...won like 20% of the seats. Like the guy who came in second his party has majority seats so it's all screwed up not that we didn't expect anything different well yeah but now I just want i'm just trying to figure out who is running who

1:02:13 Well, we'll find out shortly. They're going to let this simmer for a while We'll see if there's any more troops going over there I want to make a correction of the timeline of the Tulsi Gabbard story When they're talking about her not running for re-election, they're talking about when she was in the House of Representatives of Hawaii in 2004. Ah! It was not a US Congress it was state congress So she quit there and then went to the battlefield and then came back around for congress, US congress And she's been there ever since 2013 and still there Thanks for clearing that up My head was in the Congo

CHAPTER 20 / 50 Discussion

Ebola Case Suspected in Sweden

A patient in Sweden was admitted to a hospital with a suspected case of Ebola, sparking concerns about the virus spreading from the Democratic Republic of Congo. The hosts remain skeptical of the reporting, suggesting that Ebola stories are often used to justify international intervention or troop movements.

sweden· ebola· democratic republic of congo· infectious disease· public health

1:02:53 Yeah, apparently. Well with that you got the Ebola? There's no Ebola! Ebola is just nothing it's like this off the map it's not important. What happened to the story wasn't some guy from Sweden somehow contracted Ebola and... yeah I have the story here I mean that may be a way I mean if its EU right Right if it's EU US, maybe that's their way. Oh you know this Ebola Maybe got to send somebody in although Europe is not supposed to have any kind of army a patient in Sweden has been admitted To hospital with the suspected case of Ebola test results will probably be received sometime this evening This is yesterday

1:03:31 The patient's being treated at the infectious disease clinic. No other details, hmmm... Rumor at this point and but it does say final line an Ebola outbreak ravaging eastern states of Democratic Republic of Congo has claimed several hundred lives so there's one story trying to bring Ebola back into purview And as we'll see We'll see But with that I do want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put the C in DRC John C In the morning you mr. Adam Curry in the morning all substance is driven sandwich feet on the ground subs in the water Beating the air and all the dames and knights out there Okay B12 this morning in the morning to the troll room at no agenda stream calm where the trolls are always lined up And ready to help out in any way they can and we'd like to say a Big give it big in the morning to a new guy jibs jibs Oh too

CHAPTER 21 / 50 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Executive Producer Credits

The hosts credit Jibs02 for the episode artwork, which features Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer as characters from the movie "They Live." Sir Mark Milliman is recognized as the Executive Producer for show 1103 with a donation of $400.40. Other producers from Oregon and Colorado are also thanked for their support.

no agenda art· mark milliman· longmont· rodney piper· they live

1:04:30 Jibs02 brought us the artwork for episode 11-0-2, brand new artist to the art generator and this was a beaut. Even though Darren O'Neill had figured out that we would be very interested in seeing Chuck and Nancy as two robot faces from the movie They Live with legendary wrestler Roddy Piper it was jibso2 Who took it one step further and showed you that no agenda is really the glasses you need to see through what the elites are telling you to do. Yes, that was a fine dimensional work. This guy's a pro! And they had this humor of... which was not something new by the way A lot of people on the net were using this because two of them standing there creepy

1:05:23 All right, so let's thank a few people. Well hold on I gotta just say no agenda art generator comm that's where you can upload your art lots of artists do it we really appreciate it and You see just when you think you're riding high like Darren O'Neill who was waiting for another? He thought okay. I'll change it to crackpot and buzzkill. I'm good to go and in swoop Doink We love the competitive nature of it, but it's also a tremendous amount of value to the show and we thank all artists. And check out all their work noagendaartgenerator.com. Actually that we do have this sound that I made exactly that was the sound sorry Sir Mark Milliman is the lead guy here the executive producer for show 1103 $400 and 40 cents from Longmont Colorado All he says is small boobs make me a baron

1:06:15 For oh, oh four. Ah let me see is he on the list as a baron yeah I think he is okay We'll give him a karma for that you've got karma Sir Russ of hell gate and grants past Oregon also known as Hellgate KG7, ZPF 73s. Yes, 73's kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie Keep up the great work he says Sir Russ please add to the wine mailing list Do you have a wine mailing list? I do have a wine mailing list Really

CHAPTER 22 / 50 Discussion

Listener Donations and Job Search Karma

A donor named Ben from Gilbert, Arizona, requests "douchebag" status and karma for a job search. He discusses the complications of drug testing while holding a medical marijuana card. The hosts grant him karma and play a custom jingle for his contribution.

gilbert arizona· marijuana card· drug testing· karma· job search

1:06:54 The best way to do that is to send an email to jonatvorik.org with the subject line, wine! And then I will put you on the mailing list. Eleven years and i'm not on your wine mailing list? You never sent me a note saying wine. Okay, I'll do it right now. Robert Johnson, or actually Johnston 3333 in Gilbert Arizona I'm just a dude named Ben that has been listening since episode 221. This is only my second donation, give me a douchebag... He wants a douche bag! He wants a douche bag or de-douching? A douche bag! He says douche bag! Douche bag! I should have donated more over the past eight years but I am forgetful prick My hope is that this donation can make up for my past transgressions. I just want to say thanks for all the analysis you've provided me over the years. I've hit many people in the mouth but only a few took it

1:07:51 I'd like some karma, give some karma to my brother Mac and my best friend Herb. If it wasn't for Herb, I wouldn't be listening to you guys. By the way John he has been a monthly subscriber for eight plus years and he hasn't sent the former clip in oh he sent the former clip in and you didn't even give a producer credit He wouldn't send a note in about it but fuck it! I'm drunk and I'm mentioning it Well, thank you Herb. Well I will say this in the defense of our what appears to be laziness unless somebody sends something and most of the time we are produced we call it we say a producer sent us and we don't necessarily say who it is because a lot of people want to be anonymous and unless they say it's okay to be mentioned or we check-in with them we don't mention their names but herb thanks even though that might funny thing I don't know what could be starting by cuz I think

1:08:46 Well, maybe he's wanted to drop me out on a cliff. What do you mean? Even without my donations I hope i get some karma for the job search. I have a job offer but of course having to piss in a cup and holding a medical marijuana card makes it...makes life complicated. Yes! In my last donation 20-I've never had to piss in a cup for any job In my last donation in 2012, I got karma for some difficult times in my life and it worked. Fully hope that the karma works again! Thank you for your courage Yeah, I'll just tell you that there are plenty of jobs where you gotta pee in the cup And here's his jingle request Hey Citizen WTC7 and Hot Pockets Hey Citizen WTC7 won't go away Hot Pocket Jobs Jobs Jobs and Jobs Let's vote for job

CHAPTER 23 / 50 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers and Capital Pickers

Ryan Moore from Tallahassee is credited as an Associate Executive Producer. He includes a humorous shout-out to his antique store, CapitalPickers.com, and contributes toward "denture cream for Nancy Pelosi." The hosts discuss the "woke" culture in Florida and grant him job search karma.

tallahassee· nancy pelosi· capital pickers· associate executive producer· ryan moore

1:09:37 You've got karma Jonathan Denison $300 and 11 cents He's in parts unknown apparently no need to read this note. I believe I'm still a knight. Oh stop there Knighthood does not expire sir, Jonathan yeah, I know what he's talking Yeah, it is no exploration you want some jobs come we like to call out my brother Matthew James Hodges as a douchebag Okay, hit him in the mouth years ago and has yet to donate anything. All right jobs karma jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for job Karma Associate executive producers begins with Ryan more calm in Tallahassee Florida

1:10:28 $201.99, first time donor long-time boner de-douche and job's coming up in the news. You've been de-douched! Finally got a career started and I have enough to share with the two of finest workest wokest podcasters that there are. I'll get it 200 for you and a buck 99 for new denture cream for Nancy Pelosi If allowed, a shout out to my small batch fair trade gluten free antique store capitalpickers.com as with it T-A-L capital pickers dot com all one word and a shout out to the other woke folks at Tallahassee Florida.

CHAPTER 24 / 50 Discussion

Sir Colin Recovery and Putin on the Ritz

Sir Colin from Cincinnati shares his recovery story following a 12-hour surgery to remove a brain tumor. He requests karma for his boss to be "poached" so he no longer has to work for her. The hosts play a full version of the "Putin on the Ritz" parody song featuring references to John Podesta.

cincinnati· brain tumor· recovery· putin on the ritz· john podesta

1:11:13 And then it says don't read the rest. He has small batch fair trade gluten free antiques Yes, yes this must be just a bit of no agenda joke and capital pickers calm well Thank you very much Ryan and we'll give you that jobs karma jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Karma Sir Colin in Cincinnati Ohio 200 even So Colin, the friendly fat man from Cincinnati here. Wanted to follow up on my short PayPal note first off I have three birthday wishes one for Eamon pronounced Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen with a hard A

1:12:00 Amen, okay. Amen on one 10 my dad Arthur Kunath who is a regular listener sometimes producer and inspiration for donate for donation notes on one 15 and my aunt Kathy on 1 16 second I want to say no agenda karma works. My doctors found that brain tumor about the size of a golf ball back in September and I had to have a pretty big surgery to take it out in November Huh, yes I remember him writing about it. I think you remember him writing about that yeah. So he's alive clearly what does he say? I was long something like 12 hours the launch wow twelve hour operation but I recovered really well and expect a few bumps in the road after getting home and losing hearing in one ear. I'm just about back to my normal self but I can't

1:12:53 Help but attribute my speedy recovery to the amazing family and no agenda. I greedily hoarded shows while in a recovery, knowing it would be critical to my re-assimilation into the work world. I have finally run out and am donating to say thank you for the help in getting me back on the swing of work without losing my mind! On that note is it possible to get a job as karma for my boss? I don't think she's looking...I just hate working for her. I hope she gets poached out of the company since I do not want to leave the team I work with." Otherwise, can I get a dealer's choice Sharpton and a Putin on the Ritz? Well let's think about this. He is asking for posi...ah..you know....hmmm Ah it's a request he says sir Right right I understand It is something worth experimenting with I guess its okay because she would be happy that she got a new job

1:13:53 Well, otherwise she would. So it makes somebody happy you're doing someone a favor. You're doing two people a favor because he hates working for her and she probably doesn't like him either. So here's the question should I then give her Nancy Jobs or Trump jobs? Or Trump-Nancy jobs? No, the Trump jobs is too jinx oriented. Give her regular Nancy Jobs. Regular Nancy Jobs okay. F. Juppe flew and you don't know where there's fake news Why don't ya get your Gitmo fix Putin on the Ritz Dressed up like a million dollar trooper Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper Super poofer Come let's mix, where John Podesta walks with kids Oh I mean pizzas in his mitts Putin on the Ritz

1:14:49 Jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for John It's been a while since I heard the full secret agent Paul Putin on the Ritz yes grace fantastic So I want to thank these folks. These are our associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1103 And these credits are not just completely valid as credits you can use anywhere They're just like Hollywood people who finance the work get an executive producer or so see executive produce a credit But we actually honor the producers

CHAPTER 25 / 50 Discussion

Bernie Sanders Campaign Sexual Harassment Allegations

Senator Bernie Sanders issues an apology for instances of sexual harassment and mistreatment that occurred during his 2016 presidential campaign. His former campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, announced he would not return to that role for a 2020 run but will remain a senior advisor. The hosts discuss the timing of these revelations as Sanders considers another bid.

bernie sanders· jeff weaver· sexual harassment· 2016 campaign· me too

1:15:24 Go ahead, take a look at any award show. Tell me how they award producers We've seen what is wrong with the model and we've incorporated into our value for value model And we appreciate so much that people are helping us and will be thanking more people $50 in above in our second segment remember another show coming up on Sunday Remember us at vorac org slash N A You definitely got the inside scoop on some of the Dem 2020 candidates now go propagate Our formula is this...We go out, we hit people in the mouth No agenda show, like a kick to the crotch! Any word on Ruth Bader Ginsburg yet? Uh no. No not yet... but

1:16:18 A lot of people feel her retirement is imminent. Yeah, I think...I like it for a health karma. I just feel so shitty about it. You've got karma! I know that there's people out there who just hope she's gonna die and I just can't...it gets really horrible must be must be horrible when you know people are thinking these things. I think she probably thinks there's probably more people liking her than not So we had a couple funny things happen. One is this, there's the Sanders clip I got the Sanders campaign sexual harassment you hear about this? No! I'm completely oblivious is this a me too moment or what do we do here? Yes kind of but Sanders... And now it's time for your sexual harassment update. We're gonna do it right we got jingles okay any more lead-in necessary set up

1:17:07 No, it's just a straight-up story. violence and harassment on the 2016 campaign in the run-up to the 2020 election. Several of Sanders' top aides have been implicated, this is Senator Sanders speaking Thursday. That as part of our campaign there were some women who are harassed or mistreated and I thank them from the bottom of my heart for speaking out

1:17:50 What they experienced was absolutely unacceptable and certainly not what a progressive campaign or any campaign should be about. In other news on Sanders' possible run for president, his 2016 campaign manager Jeff Weaver has said he will not return to the same position if Sanders decides to run for president again but weavers expected to stay on as the senior advisor I guess that was the guy harassing the women. He's gonna still be a senior advisor, I don't know. Yeah but i think i did actually hear about this is where Bernie is saying that well you know uh was trying to run for president and didn't have time to figure out what was going on something like that? Well i think what you heard him say there is what he got forced into saying

CHAPTER 26 / 50 Discussion

FBI Investigation into Trump as Russian Asset

The New York Times reports that the FBI opened an investigation into whether Donald Trump was a Russian asset following the firing of James Comey. The hosts discuss the gravity of this claim and pivot to a lighter anecdote about TSA workers at the Denver Airport singing folk songs during the government shutdown.

fbi· james comey· russian asset· new york times· denver airport

1:18:44 Now, the thing I want to play a couple of clips. I do have the rundown on what's really going on in the country which is the shutdown plus the CBS takes this shut down and they associate it with Trump as his Russian agent which is a big scandal or at least Trump's mind. Now let me understand, the New York Times broke the story was it The Times or The Post? Yes yes no, Times. And they said that after Trump as president fired FBI Director Comey senior officials of the FBI whoever that is

1:19:20 We're so freaked out by that. They started to immediately look into the see if he was an asset a Russian spy well I think it's the term is asset which is not quite as a would be a spy per se but he'd be an Asset yeah, yes He's been turned okay By the way should make before we play this for these clips those three of them and its way they pull any plan because they kind of associate push the For some, I don't know how they do this but CBS pulls a stunt here. They pull us and if I have one clip that's really bad but so My daughter and her fiance were in the Denver Airport during this shutdown Of course that I can't kick get these kids to think like there was yeah Like producers? Yeah like producers because apparently the TSA staff

1:20:13 In total, at the airport we're singing folk songs. Rive been working on the railroad and they only have songs about not getting paid! What? And they've got their iPhones and everything and they did not record it?! Hello... Oh my goodness I gave them... You read in a riot act. Ah, I can't believe it Because it's material I said think of the YouTube hits especially since there was this J J and her fancy both. Hey, you guys are living rent-free right now people Pay two months rent Oh You know never thought of it oh Just ah this is so sad It is sad yeah Okay, let's go

CHAPTER 27 / 50 Discussion

CBS News Editing of Mike Pompeo Interview

The hosts criticize CBS News for editing an interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to make it appear as though he was calling Donald Trump's comments "ludicrous." In reality, Pompeo was referring to the New York Times report about Trump being a Russian asset. They argue this type of deceptive editing is a sign of the decline of mainstream journalism.

cbs news· mike pompeo· face the nation· editing· government shutdown

1:21:04 This is shutdown. Furloughed government workers lined up for groceries today at a pop-up food bank in Alexandria, Virginia. President Trump and congressional Democrats remain locked in a dispute over border wall funding The president unleashed a tweet storm today on the shutdown and an explosive report that the FBI investigated him as a possible Russian agent. Errol Barnett is at the White House

1:21:52 Hmm. I didn't know that they got 500 bucks bonus to go to help help cross the chasm You know this CBS as far as I know is the only one that reported that That's very interesting and was it what was it? Five hundred cash in hand or was it do you have to pay taxes on probably a government check? I gotta tell ya, it's gonna come down to the wire It's gonna get pretty nasty now I expect so. But this is the way they started handling the story though, in part two In a series of tweets this morning President Trump defended himself against The New York Times report which claimed the FBI investigated whether the president was a Russian asset or potential threat against American security after he fired FBI director James Comey in May 2017 CBS News has not independently confirmed that report

1:22:45 Hold on, wait we're still talking about the shutdown? They put the two stories together. Wow slick! I was going to fire Comey my decision But The New York Times says it was President Trump's own public statements connecting the Comey firing to Russia which raised concern among agents When i decided to just do it i said to myself This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story. The president insisted today his quote firing of James Comey was a great day for America Absolutely ludicrous in an interview airing tomorrow on face the nation Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said

1:23:28 They want to back up a little bit and usually have the Trump quote, and then it followed by him A Pompeo quote saying absolutely ludicrous. I got you the way they put this together I think is shameful they made it sound as though Pompeo was criticizing Trump's commentary of course they did its CBS But wait wait let me finish in fact Pompeo is discussing the idea that Trump was a Russian asset. It's not a commentary on Trump's quote, but they put it together so improperly that they give you the impression if he just listening to it, Trump says well, he would call me an idiot and then I guess that's bull crap! I mean it's unbelievable how they did this. I have been in editing bays many times

CHAPTER 28 / 50 Discussion

Robert Mueller Grand Jury Extension and Sarah Sanders

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's grand jury receives a six-month extension to continue its investigation. White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders dismisses the latest FBI allegations as "absurd." Meanwhile, James Comey tweets a quote from Franklin D. Roosevelt: "Judge me by the enemies I have made."

robert mueller· grand jury· sarah sanders· james comey· fdr quote

1:24:22 When something was edited together that may even just have come together kind of as an accident, like oh man that's really funny. Let's just keep that in there put those leave those two together it's great I'm sure you've witnessed this even if not political just for any reason. Of course! Yeah but is this is the top... yes this happens all time but In my opinion, when this is happening at one of the big three networks... Yeah. It's shameful! They got money- That's another reason why we can only go through 2020 There will be no more journalism it's gonna end there's gonna be nothing left to look at Journalism will be whoever does it

1:25:05 The Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. The president insisted today his quote firing of James Comey was a great day for America Absolutely ludicrous Whoa! Whoa, whoa. In an interview airing tomorrow on Face the Nation Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said he rejects The New York Times allegation The idea that's contained in the New York Times story that President Trump was a threat to American national security is silly on its face and not worthy ever response Is that unprecedented where any intelligence agency has done this To a president just in office?

1:25:48 I don't know if it ever happening before may have been done but has been kept a secret. But FBI is well known for spying on everybody and blackmailing with sex secrets and all this stuff. Yeah, yeah so that's true. We were at that agency man. Alright so... Anyway, that was that I wanted that clip in there for sure because of this little... That was great. The way they edited it to make just for the subconscious effect on the poor dummies who watch CBS News. I'm surprised you didn't pull an ISO from it so you can use it anywhere Yes, in fact they may bring it back. Keep your eye out I will get an ISO for future use if you don't want to pull it You can finish this the last clips got a little kicker on from the White House press secretary Sarah Sanders called The Times claim absurd and said Comey is a disgraced partisan hack the former FBI director sent this tweet today quoting President Franklin Delano Roosevelt quote judge me by the enemies I have made

1:26:50 Now all of this leads to special counsel Robert Mueller whose team has not made any public comment call me tweeted that Judge me by the enemies I have made yeah Now all of this leads the Special Counsel Robert Mueller whose team has not made any public. I guess I missed it was it back here Franklin Delano Roosevelt quote judge me by the enemies, I've made Interesting. Now all of this leads to special counsel Robert Mueller whose team has not made any public comment on the extent of its investigation but Mueller's team has secured the indictment of three associates of President Trump and the grand jury used to secure those indictments just received a six-month extension to keep working. I'm telling you, this guy is never going to finish his investigation!

CHAPTER 30 / 50 Discussion

Steve King Under Attack for Racial Comments

Iowa Congressman Steve King faces intense criticism from both parties after a New York Times interview in which he questioned how terms like "white nationalist" and "white supremacist" became offensive. King defends himself on the House floor, claiming he is an "American Nationalist." The hosts note that he already faces primary challengers for his seat.

steve king· iowa· republican party· white supremacy· racism

1:32:50 of butt wipes that are a glove so you can just turn them inside out and throw them out and not contribute to fatbergs. Yeah? Already invented! Oh, yeah. You can get them on Amazon great minds great mind. Yeah I don't know how great this guy's doing five cents It's a butt glove it's kind of an interesting idea get your bud gloves right here But I can't believe someone came up with my idea Butt gloves so anyway that's that yeah

1:33:31 So yeah, it's just gonna be never endings and keep on going. Yeah that's what I would do if i was him is just like a full... It's a job! It pays well you get a lot of power and you got people working for ya taking your you know the people getting your dry cleaning bringing the car around all that sort of thing. Fantastic! Hey bring the car around thank you very much So this guy Steve King, who we noticed...we talked about on the show before. He's one of the congressmen that is under attack. Yeah, he's a Republican? Republicans, you know it? Yeah of course! He's a Republican under-attacker being a racist pig and and he's pretty adamant about fighting the charges and everybody. You know they give him nothing but grief about it

CHAPTER 31 / 50 Discussion

NewsGuard Ratings on Steve King Search Results

While searching for news on Steve King, the hosts observe how NewsGuard icons appear next to Google search results. They find that the "Palmer Report" is flagged with a red warning, while "Crooked Media" remains unrated. They argue the system is designed to steer users toward mainstream sources and away from independent commentary.

newsguard· steve king· google search· palmer report· crooked media

1:34:14 Because he supposedly defends white supremacy when he doesn't. Now, why is there some issue that he's involved in this under attack? This is a new version of it I want to play...I got two clips of the same thing but getting a little different dimension from let's start with democracy now that Steve King DN backed A key Republican lawmaker and close ally of President Trump defended white supremacy while assailing the diversity of the incoming lawmakers in an interview published Thursday. Iowa Congressmember Steve King told The New York Times, quote, White nationalists, white supremacists, Western civilization—how did that language become offensive? Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?" unquote

1:34:58 Congress member King went on to criticize the freshman class of Democratic lawmakers with its record number of women and people of color, saying, quote, You could look over there and think the Democratic Party is no country for white men. King said All right. This is a really bad this is again who's driving this fool who was driving? He never ever defended white supremacy And they don't have a quote of him defending white supremacy. He was just saying that these terms, you can't even mention them anymore or people get all over your case. You can't even say the words white nationalist. He says he's not a white nationalist but if you use the word then all of a sudden you are and that's what he is bitching about and if you listen to this CBS report which

1:35:48 which is Steve King again, I think they at least make it a little more palatable and a little more realistic but they're after this guy for some reason. Speaker, I regret the heartburn that has poured forth upon this Congress in this country and especially in my state That's as close as Iowa Congressman Steve King came to apologizing today for comments being called abhorrent racist and reckless by members of his own party In a New York Times interview published Thursday The Republican lawmaker asked White nationalist, white supremacist, western civilization. How did that language become offensive? Facing a growing backlash today King took to the House floor to explain himself Under any fair political definition I am simply an American Nationalist This conviction does not make me a white nationalist or a white supremacist Tonight South Carolina Senator Tim Scott the only black Republican in the Senate

1:36:41 calling out King. When I have to hit the pause button to have a conversation about race and racism and polarizing comments by other folks in my party, it makes it far more difficult for us to sell the conservative brand. And writing in The Washington Post some in our party wonder why Republicans are constantly accused of racism It is because of our silence when things like this are said. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi condemning King's comments too. Is he fit to survive? He has said terrible things, terrible things have been said by other people in this administration I've been in bigger fights than this one. King already has two primary challengers One of whom told the Des Moines Register yesterday...

1:37:20 Garrett Hague NBC News the Capitol. Oh, so this is just a pre-challenge We're just challenging everybody just getting pre challenge underway Yeah, geez you know these people they better do some work to while they're at it They're not gonna Do any worse and work for us as I was searching? And I searched the Google's which always do during show days yeah Steve King under attack every link now on my google results page has a A news guard icon next to it because you put that app on your yeah to show me if I should even click on the link So in other words the list of Google links. Mm-hmm have a ever went there to the right There's a little well, there's actually haven't with a vast actually to the left It's not a lot of laughs Yeah, right took the riot real or that's not that's so that's that's unsightly Yeah, so if moves the link over one spot because the the guard is there and

1:38:22 How about that? I have to get this thing. Oh yeah, you need this! You need this thing! Anything red is what i'd click on. Well that's what I was looking for it took me three pages let me see... That's something good Three pages no four pages This will have a counter-this is counterintuitive It's gonna get if I was running that little plug in I would definitely be looking for the red one so I could click on them and see what the hell's going on there I'm sure they're also reporting back. I'm sure, I'm sure Publicis is building up nice little record of who I am but you're right! Well just get a VPN and then they can screw themselves It's actually it's kind of nice because exactly as you say when you do a Google search You really want to get the red one so here's my first red one page 10 The Palma report That has a read be careful notice on it

1:39:20 Oh, what does Palmer have to say? Yesterday we brought you the story of how Republican Congressman Sting of Iowa's long history racism and gun fanaticism posted a racial attack against... it actually seems like it is kind of anti-King. It's attacking him! Yes Well he got that one right No, he should get a red checkmark A green one He's one of the good guys Yeah I mean but every single other one is all green Yeah, that's just a yellow and an orange. There are four colors crooked media has a new icon It is gray and it has a dash Oh this website is still in the process of being rated by NewsGuard Huh interesting well since we're talking about forbidden words because that's really what it is It's time to educate ourselves Just keep ourselves up-to-date up speed ocur on with the with the with the kids

CHAPTER 32 / 50 Discussion

UC Davis LGBTQIA Resource Center Words That Hurt

The University of California, Davis LGBTQIA Resource Center published a list of "words that hurt," including terms like "ghetto," "illegal alien," and "no homo." The hosts review the list, mocking the center's explanations for why these words are considered oppressive. They discuss the evolving standards of language on college campuses.

uc davis· lgbtqia· political correctness· language· censorship

1:40:17 The University of California Davis has an LGBTQIA Resource Center, which is not correct in my opinion. I believe it is LGBTQIAAPK But they say lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender queer intersex and asexual. And there are...they have a listing here of words that hurt and why? Well that hurts far as I'm concerned that moniker they're using their acronym is in itself hurtful. Yeah, and would you like to hear it's only about 15. Oh what do you think yes words that hurt? And why sometimes we say words without realizing the impact they may have on others Say what you mean and mean what you say take time to educate yourself about language and histories of oppression says yourself no that would be my Emphasis added by me will start off with bitch

1:41:18 Bitch is a word commonly used in hip-hop music. Targets and dehumanizes women even if used towards men, including queer and gay men Wow! I know a lot of gay man who call each other bitch but okay it reinforces sexism so this is a word that hurts and should be removed Abolished Ghetto Yeah, describe something or someone as cheap worn-out poor dangerous etc reference to guys ghetto you're someone's ghettos Yes, this is a hurtful word. Yeah illegal alien hurtful Reduce that it's just a statement of fact well Maybe her supposed to use instead Let me see reduces undocumented immigrants to something less than human fixate on isn't

1:42:07 Fixates on legal status instead of people as individuals a search that some like a perpetrator A search that some people belong here more than others do ignores political. Yes the citizens This is your California Davis system's you see thing Asserts that some people belong here more than others do ignores political social and economic factors that impact people of color Wow are all illegal aliens people of color. I don't think so in fact no, I know they're not alright Here's one that I've done. I should I got yep? No homo

1:42:50 What are you haven't done no homo now in a long time, but in years? You know it's like guys. I love you man. I love your bro No homo yes, and this is a kick corn balls thing that bros like to say stresses the speakers heterosexuality masculinity and or other traits to avoid being perceived as LGBTQIA goes ghosts of great lengths to avoid association with anything queer I've you know, i've always thought of it as just some dumb thing that people say because it's kind of funny It was for a while until yeah the 80s. Yeah Oh boy. Uh-oh You actually got away with it What did you call AOC? What do you call her an idiot and idiot now you call their stupid any other words used any other words

1:43:41 Stupid and idiot, I haven't used moron but i could well Here are words that hurt retarded lame crazy and dumb. I didn't use any of those. I know you skated right through it yeah so It's okay to call someone an idiot yes or even a moron but You can't call him dumb no stupid you can call them stupid stupid just stupid Another phrase, that's so gay. Yeah it's another late 80s phrase that has gone out of vogue. Whore ho or slut? Whore ho or slut? What about whore? The pronunciation was surprising. Whore! I think whore may be okay. Yeah a whore she is a whore. A whore. Bisexuality doesn't really exist people are only gay or straight

CHAPTER 33 / 50 Discussion

Bisexuality Myths and Gendered Language Guidelines

The hosts continue reviewing the UC Davis language guide, focusing on myths about bisexuality and the prohibition of phrases like "you guys" or "fat ass." The guide claims that calling oneself a "fat ass" devalues fat bodies and reinforces harmful assumptions. The hosts argue these guidelines are an example of extreme political correctness in academia.

bisexuality· uc davis· gender identity· fatness· language

1:44:39 Well, it's not something that statement of fact in that document. It's what that's a it's a hurtful phrase What's who says that? well Apparently enough people to put it on the list this denies the fluidity of sexuality fluidity I got lots of fluids. I got lots of fluidity today and dismisses people's experiences and definitions of self People deserve the right to define their own. I doubt kept blah blah fine yeah, yeah well on the other side John on the other side of that we have I think everyone is really bisexual

1:45:16 Yeah, this is yeah. That's the classic thing a bisexual will say This is often meant to acknowledge the fluidity of sexuality but... What? They said that's a good thing?! This is a way of checking people to see if they're you know just come on! Is that what it is? You were looking for somebody to say yeah I think you right Well next on the list I never thought about it much but I think you might be right You're too femme to be bisexual who says that I don't know it must be a thing let's be some other come on Bisexual people just want straight privilege. I've never heard this well wait what yeah? This is a hurtful thing and people say it apparently but check it out here's the next one this has got me my favorite bisexual People are just greedy and want to have sex with everyone see

1:46:16 This is the University of California Davis publishing this. Yeah, well that's the farmers up there Okay now we get into some other things Who do you see yourself ending up with? This is in the same stupid book? Yeah, it's not a book. I want somebody from Davis to send me a copy of this book! It's not a book. It's an online bullcrap resource center. This is another way of implying one has to quote end up gay or straight and ignores bisexuality as an identity. There's an issue... Somebody who was bisexual wrote this. Yeah the big problem that Okay, so then we have people like this writing. So we have it's an agenda Then we have tranny I would never say that all interesting though are our official transsexuals of the show call themselves tranny's but they don't mind us saying it no you just Don't like doing it This is my favorite what is your real name? I mean the one you were given at birth This is of course naming any douchebag would say there's a big deal You're not allowed to say he she

1:47:18 As in hyphenated if you don't know because you should find out before you use it of course. Yes, like it says impractical There's a lot of horrible things that won't even say this is my favorite thought that's a big one these days But th ot thought does that mean thought it's an acronym That whore over there Thought? Yeah. This has only come up recently. Do you have the point when you're saying that word? Well, you say look at her the thought that whore over there I've never heard this is a big thing right now it's a where online Austin no and online let me tell you what's going on There are entire groups of people who are reporting sex workers webcam girls other things like that

1:48:06 And it's called a thought some is like the girls alone. They report them to the IRS Why they don't make enough money that the IRS should care? It's called the thoughts on it, but yeah I'm just telling you you also can't use the word ugly anymore even if somebody's ugly how about butt ugly is that better and doesn't say and This one this is AOC needs to cut this out you guys She says that a lot you guys all right you guys This is a no-no because it erases the identities of people who are in the room Generalizing a group of people to be masculine. Uh-huh wrong I said all the time two women Yeah, what's wrong and finally? I'm such a fat ass right now so you can't say that about yourself

1:48:58 Why? What if you're a big fat ass, the guy from Cincinnati. He says he's a fat guy from Cincinnati. Sir Cullen, the friendly fat man from Cincinnati! You can't say that... give him his money back. Ah well we aint gonna go that far It demeans and devalues fatness and fat bodies reinforces harmful assumptions that fat people are gluttonous and are fat because they have no restraints around food. He says he's the fat guy from Cincinnati, the friendly-fat guy! Does it reinforce the fact that fat men are friendly or jolly? It implies there is such an acceptable amount of food to eat and anything more is disgusting... Or that enjoy— That doesn't imply any such thing. Well this what being taught in collage This is what going on colleges I'm sure that's not the worst case scenario No

CHAPTER 34 / 50 Discussion

Experian Boost and UltraFICO Credit Scoring

Experian and FICO are launching new programs, Experian Boost and UltraFICO, which allow the companies to access consumers' bank accounts and utility payments to potentially raise their credit scores. The hosts describe this as a "dystopian future" similar to the Chinese social credit system, warning that it increases financial surveillance of private citizens.

experian boost· ultrafico· credit score· fico· financial surveillance

1:49:51 Well, you're up to date. Thank you. Yeah this is very one of those rare no agenda reports we often do that really keep people on the... On the positive tip! The cutting edge of culture. All right well while you're on the cutting edge of culture let me tell you Where as we're all aghast about the Chinese social score and everyone's flipping out about it. No, even Hillary Clinton referred to a dystopian future Meanwhile is just building here in the most beautiful way We have a control system like that. It's called your FICO score Oh, yeah And it won't be long until you can wear little badge that has your score on and I hear this Converse egg this combo all the time people talking about what's your FICO score? Yeah, it happens to be that The Keeper has some outrageous score of like 886

1:50:45 Which you know she's very reluctant to actually marry me because she knows what's gonna happen. Yeah, cuz she's gonna get tanked Tanked all the way down to 500 or something come a little closer than my Think of it as the credit There may be help on the horizon for me people like me who have I have not looked recently But I'm sure it's really bad. I've never cared My FICO score, it looks like they're going to help out you can get a boost You can get a boost as much maybe 100 point boost

1:51:26 So naturally we're all interested because for those who don't know it, this credit worthiness report, this FICO, this number lets people know if you can rent an apartment even if you have the money. If that's just kind of well... You have a low FICO score or you may have the money but I don't know. There is rumor that some people look at it in hiring and jobs has become this important number. Yes there are rumors, there's documentation for this So it's very important, slave. Well if you know you have to think of it as the credit catch 22 in order to borrow money You need a good credit score but to get a high number you have to show us solid credit history with that in mind Experian one of the three major credit reporting companies is piloting a program called Experian Boost The premise is simple If you're willing to share more of your personal information you may see an immediate increase to your credit score

1:52:17 Consumers who opt into the program allow Experian to access their bank account and track utility or phone payments. That data is added to their credit file, and then they get a updated score. Experian says scores rose for two out of three consumers participating in its pilot phase, and 10% of those with a so-called thin file had enough credit history to be given a score for the first time. Now there's another program expected to be rolled out this summer called UltraFICO, it is a partnership between Experian, the fintech firm Finicity and Fico, the credit scoring company. Consumers again must opt in to allow access to their savings and checking accounts. Their balances will then be monitored to see how they manage cash flow pay their bills

1:52:59 to calculate a new and possibly higher ultra FICO score now that's good news for many consumers and writers too who will be able to draw from a larger pool now of potential borrowers it's great news just let them access your bank account so they can see how you're doing it'll give you little graphs and little charts like oh do a little better pay on time you can do it come on your little engine it could Wow. This is your dystopian future, this is where it all comes together. You're right. It's disgusting! And CNBC is jitty about it. Oh no they're all yeah... They think it's great I can't wait Do they have one critical thinker at CNBC ever that can maybe say hey you know maybe this isn't such a great idea? Yes they do. Jim Cramer

CHAPTER 35 / 50 Discussion

Social Reputation Scores and Klout Downfall

The discussion turns to the concept of social reputation scores, referencing the TV show "Black Mirror." They discuss the failure of Klout, a service that attempted to rank social media influence before being shut down by Lithium Technologies. The hosts brainstorm ideas for a "spooky" new reputation app that would track how often a person appears in others' photos.

klout· social credit· reputation score· black mirror· lithium technologies

1:53:56 Listen, there is another product idea in here somewhere. I mean you've seen the Black Mirror episode where you can look at someone's augmented reality we can see someone score above their head You know? I think that there's a way for us to create some kind of app or something Yes, I agree That takes your UltraFICO score your Experian Boost UltraFICO score And it moves you from your thin file and then you can add stuff to it. You know, just taking how many likes you have on Twitter and just average it out and give someone a score higher or lower. And we just need to claim... Okay FICO is just commercial company who started this business. Now they're like the government standard of worthiness as a citizen

1:54:44 Yeah, we can go on top of that. We just need to brand it right? We can have a better score that incorporates the FICO score It was something that I think like if you loud if you show side business by the way If you should so side boob you get extra points on your Instagram. Yeah, well see this is where we go off the rails. Oh I'm sorry i'll stop. Clout was trying to do something like this... You're right you're right! Right clout it was a reputational score yeah a reputational score but they couldn't really get that for some reason one of the reasons was people like myself wouldn't join And I'm not just saying I had anything to do with that, but lots of people wouldn't join. Cause it's like who cares what they think? What my clout score is. How hard up are you for self esteem that you have to work get a high clout score if it could be institutionalized which is what you're suggesting as opposed to being just some gimmick like I checked in at the McDonalds kind of thing which is junk

1:55:46 Well, it was it was clout with a K which apparently was purchased by lithium technologies and they shut it down So I don't haven't looked into lithium. Yeah doing There was possibility that GDP PR may have played into clouds downfall This was pretty recent when did this happen this year? Oh they just folded interesting. Yeah just folded hmm well Well, they appeared to have only done like oh here's what you mentions on Twitter Facebook and Google But I think it should be you know how many for how many pictures are in? How many pictures of friends are you also in the picture. You know that ship That would be I would say I would agree with that plus so you get a plus for that It's got to be a little more I think the way they make it work because nobody really cares about What I'm just about to say it should be a little more spooky

1:56:35 Spooky. Yeah, like spy-ish. It's like CIA stuff. Right! What you just said is how many times are you in the picture somebody else took? Yeah that's what I said. That's why I said that spooky. That's great You need to be more spooky. You need to have more ideas that are spooky, spookish stuff so that way you can build the company up and you get some of these algorithms, you come with some algos that do this searching it goes through the flicker pictures all arrest and then one of these operations buys ya. Yes we needed names yeah we need a name for it though

1:57:15 If we have the right acronym or the right name, I think we could build it. Creep score? The what? Creep score. Creep score! No? Keep working on it John! Come up with something... If we did it with a K and we could come up with a great acronym... Creepscore yeah that might be okay But it's too confusing. We want it to be something aspirational that people really go for. You're right, creep score is negative. It has to be aspirational I'll think of something good Okay we'll work on it. We do have a few people thank for show 1103

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Knighting Ceremony and Producer Acknowledgments

The hosts conduct a knighting ceremony for high-tier donors, including Sir Joel Battle-Born of Nevada and John Knowles of Tennessee. They acknowledge donors from Arlington, Virginia, noting the area's rebranding as "National Landing" for Amazon. Various other producers from Michigan, California, and Canada are thanked for their contributions.

knighting· joel battle-born· john knowles· national landing· amazon

1:58:01 None of them creeps by the way. How about value score? Something like that I think there's already a value score out there, okay Robert Blank Shane I believe 100 bucks he wants to know how he reaches us. By email and never seem to get a reply Really? Let me see if i've got a note from Robert Blank Shane I don't think so...I don't think I've never heard of a note from him maybe it could be my fault He wants to, he'd like to speak of my college St. John's College a great length it's okay well oh he says most definitely Oh okay yeah all right we want to hear from you last time I heard from him he was going to Rwanda and Tanzania. Oh he said economic hit man we need to hear because i lost my guy

1:58:51 He stopped, I think he still listens but he's so turned into a large amygdala Trump hater. There is such an extreme that I don't think you can write the show anymore and doesn't give us tips on anything going on. Oh not Blankstein but your guy? Yeah my guy no this guy. This is different guy. This guy might replace him. Okay blank... We'll be looking for your email. Blankshaneondeck.com It's adammccurry.com it's not that hard Yes Blankshane On Deck waiting for ya We want to know more. Sir Joel Battle-Born Black Baron of Northern Nevada and Reno, 8008. John Knowles Baron of Murfreesboro which is where all the techies are surrounding that area in Tennessee, 8008. Sir Michael Moss, 8008 He says I had to donate some joker put an old timey calculator boob into some company's app.

1:59:50 Sir Timothy Breshears, Cookville Tennessee and others. I think that's a Murphy Burles there we got to do meet up there. Yep 6660. Sir Ray Jacobson $57 not Jake 5678 and we have a birthday call for Ray yeah Christopher Dexter parts unknown 5678 Jonathan Evans 5555 Patrick Smokeowitz, in Arlington Virginia. Good area for people. Soon to be rebranded as National Landing by Amazon. Is that a joke I'm not getting?

2:00:32 It has to do with the Amazon opening up shop there. Got it, got it. Viscount Jeff Gerlach in Lincoln California and then following people are... he has a title change I hope is on there? I believe so was that what his note was about yes he becomes viscount of... He's changing of yes I have it here we're good to go Edward, the following people are $50 donors name and location if appropriate or if I have it. Edward Daniel don't have it Richard Gardner don't have it Jonathan Ferris in Liberal Kansas. I wonder how they vote there? Robert Brett Yeo in Cantonsville Maryland a Robert Bruckner Phil Waterson Kimberly Redmond in Toronto Ontario Mario

2:01:26 But Geronimo, I think. So thanks for getting me through the graveyard shifts in Brownsville Texas. Robert Kerrback, Kerbeck, Kerback, Kerback in Essexville Michigan. Pate Snakes. Sir Pate, sir pate, sir pate, sir pate, sir pate, he's more than a sir, I think he's up there an earl or something. Robert Weber in San Jose, California Mark Johnson and Aurora Colorado Elliot Gardner in New York Pennsylvania's got a whole bunch of birthdays calling out to here and there. Let me just see sir Andrew gardeners daughter Mickey happy first birthday on January 12th sir Andrew Donated for his first human resource who was unnamed at the time her name is Kuhn Beckett Gardiner koon koa co no that can't be right cone cone

2:02:21 Yeah, it'd be Cone. Oh it's his name? Okay yes all right Cone. Cone Beckett Gardner born December 27th welcome human resource! Welcome citizen Jason Clegg in San Diego Dame Patricia Worthington who owns half of Florida from apparently and always donates and I really appreciate a lot and Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington. I think he's a Sir. And that is pretty much our group of well-wishers and producers for show 1103. Want to thank each and every one them and those who donate lesser amounts for supporting this particular episode. Yes! Thank you so much

CHAPTER 37 / 50 Discussion

Rite Aid Delisting Warning and Meetup Logistics

Rite Aid faces a potential delisting from the New York Stock Exchange as its share price falls below one dollar. The hosts contrast this financial trouble with the company's sponsorship of flu shots at the Golden Globes. They also discuss the logistics of an upcoming meetup in Des Moines, Iowa, and the benefits of Friday versus Saturday events.

rite aid· golden globes· stock market· meetups· des moines

2:03:05 Because of our model the way we work this show that it is completely supported by the people who enjoy the program But you're really producing it. That's why you're all known as producers We don't have to deal with such things as, you know Giving our audience members a flu shot like happened on The Golden Globe Awards You know just like that's what Rite Aid had to do... By the way Irony of Rite Aid sponsoring flu shots for celebrities on the Golden Globes. The New York Stock Exchange is warning Rite Aid they will be delisted if their shares fall below $1 and they're close so maybe then... Time for the reverse split! Yeah right, maybe they need a little strategy on how to want advertise. They'll do a reverse split that's your bet that's your easy way out

2:03:52 Meetup news, so we still have the 22nd of February on deck in Des Moines Iowa. I got to talk to Mimi because i don't hear any noise coming out of what's going on. I thought that was in organization mode you know anything about it other than from me? I don't know anything. I'll ask Mimi, she will tell me. I sent her two producers who want to organize Okay well she's been busy Okay that's fine that's why i'm checking Texas meetup we have a date and a venue Oh bull March 2nd Saturday March 2nd Yeah? I wish it could've been march 3rd three three but that's a Sunday And here is how... Well yeah Fridays are better but Saturdays okay

2:04:36 Well, we could do Friday. I mean it's just... Why is it better? It's not better. The reason Friday is better because you have a bunch of people—it depends on where you put this if there's going to be some like a long trip that everyone's gonna have to take then doesn't make any difference but if it's in the town where people work and they commute to their job, they would like to be there already in town on Friday. And they quit work around five, although nowadays is four but they quit working then come right to the event otherwise if it's Saturday go home And then now there is some distance from the event because they're not in town anymore. They're in the suburbs or someplace else, and they have to make another trip into town which is a lot of extra work and you'll lose people."

2:05:21 Well, it's going to be Saturday. I'm just listening to you and you have no idea what Austin traffic is like Yeah You leave your job at 5 and you're gonna be in a meetup not until 730 So no it's not gonna happen on a Friday It will be Saturday And I will tell you about the venue based upon notes I received two days ago Adam, I was turned on your podcast by the Grimericans and absolutely love it. Growing up in Austin, a true Austinite, I loved listening to Art Bell, The George Gordon School of Law, Alex Jones when he was still on public access and pirate micro-band FM radio right here in town. You two guys really nail a sane fact based version of the truths that are out there in front of all our faces!

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Texas No Agenda Meetup at Austin Beer Works

A major No Agenda meetup is announced for March 2nd at Austin Beer Works. Ross Reynolds, the brewery's ambassador and a listener of the show, is helping organize the event, which has a 250-person capacity. The hosts encourage listeners from surrounding states to attend the gathering, which takes place just before the South by Southwest festival.

austin beer works· texas meetup· ross reynolds· south by southwest· austin

2:04:36 Well, we could do Friday. I mean it's just... Why is it better? It's not better. The reason Friday is better because you have a bunch of people—it depends on where you put this if there's going to be some like a long trip that everyone's gonna have to take then doesn't make any difference but if it's in the town where people work and they commute to their job, they would like to be there already in town on Friday. And they quit work around five, although nowadays is four but they quit working then come right to the event otherwise if it's Saturday go home And then now there is some distance from the event because they're not in town anymore. They're in the suburbs or someplace else, and they have to make another trip into town which is a lot of extra work and you'll lose people."

2:05:21 Well, it's going to be Saturday. I'm just listening to you and you have no idea what Austin traffic is like Yeah You leave your job at 5 and you're gonna be in a meetup not until 730 So no it's not gonna happen on a Friday It will be Saturday And I will tell you about the venue based upon notes I received two days ago Adam, I was turned on your podcast by the Grimericans and absolutely love it. Growing up in Austin, a true Austinite, I loved listening to Art Bell, The George Gordon School of Law, Alex Jones when he was still on public access and pirate micro-band FM radio right here in town. You two guys really nail a sane fact based version of the truths that are out there in front of all our faces!

2:06:04 Austin meetup could be planned at Austin Beer Works where I work. He doesn't just work there, he is the brewery ambassador! So if you're inclined to do it there and not only planning one let's do it so I had a back-and-forth with him um...so they're very happy to host us they can...the Austin beer works has a 250 person capacity he says he'd just like a heads up more or less how many people are coming so they can staff appropriately and they will also bring in a food truck for us And if the weather holds up, the patio is very nice and shaded allows for more room to mill around. And this is Ross Reynolds, the brewery ambassador at Austin Beer Works and looks like we're going through this March 2nd. Okay! This is The Texas Meetup. Other states are more than welcome to join

2:06:55 I might get some somebody coming in from Louisiana maybe or oh, I think we got Arkansas. I think we have a home You know probably some people crossing the Rio Grande yeah, it could be some Mexicans to get some Mexican listeners Well, I'm very excited about it and it's the perfect timing because we're back from you know From Des Moines. It's also before South by Southwest that's all they say is a good time to do this and We will be sending out emails soon to Texas and states in the surrounding area so everyone is reminded of this and it'll also go on meetup calm and This is gonna be good. It's the big Texas meat we some jingles Yeah

2:07:38 This is the long awaited Long awaited always underrated Texas meetup March 2nd, Austin Texas I think we can have 100 people at this thing. Yeah. Well that's what everyone thinks Thanks for being so positive John right there. Thanks buddy fantastic And again, thank everybody who supported the program today. Also those coming in under $50 for their own reasons namely anonymity but also a lot of people on subscriptions please take a look at this you can also donate any amount you want whatever you think this show is worth as you finish listening to it You send us that amount and that's how the value for value system works and remember another show come on up on Sunday Remember us at Dvorak.org

CHAPTER 39 / 50 Discussion

Birthday Announcements and Title Changes

The hosts read a list of listener birthdays and announce title changes within the No Agenda community. Jeff Gerlach becomes a Viscount, and Mark Milliman is elevated to a Barony. They direct listeners to NoAgendaNotes.com for full show details and credits.

birthdays· jeff gerlach· mark milliman· no agenda notes· podcast

2:08:26 slash and a jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And today is the 13th of January 2019. We have a couple of belated birthdays, you heard him earlier Sir Collins' happy birthday to Eamon Celebrate on the 10th of January Elliot Gardner says happy birthday to Sue as sir Andrew Gardner's daughter Mickey She turned one yesterday and then we have sir Ray Jacobsen turning 57 today Sir Collins father Arthur will be celebrating on the 15th and his aunt Kathy

2:09:09 Kathy will be celebrating her birthday on January 16th. We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! The titles are a-changing, that's right everybody. We've got Viscount Jeff Gerlach. He becomes Sir Jeff Gerlach, Viscount of Utopia and Sir Mark Milliman moves up to Barony and we appreciate your support as well thank you so much we'll put all that in the show notes at nashownotes.com Holy crap it was so short this donation segment? Why? Well normally were 20 minutes later in the program than we are right now

CHAPTER 40 / 50 Discussion

Yellow Vest Protests Act Nine in France

France enters its ninth consecutive weekend of Yellow Vest (Gilets Jaunes) protests, with 80,000 police officers deployed nationwide. The hosts discuss how the movement, originally sparked by a fuel tax, has evolved into a broader challenge to President Emmanuel Macron's government. They note the media's tendency to downplay the role of the carbon tax in the unrest.

yellow vests· gilets jaunes· emmanuel macron· paris· carbon tax

2:10:08 Oh, yeah. This is a good time to be not... Yeah it's fine What else we got to talk about though? Oh I have lots of talk about Okay well let's talk about it Okay how bout Act 9 Act 9, Gillette Jean, the yellow vests. Oh the yellow yellows That's right it is now act nine so nine weekends in a row As many as 80 thousand police officers will be deployed across France this weekend as the authorities prepare for the ninth week of the Yellow Vest protests

2:10:45 By the way, I keep saying the next show is Sunday but it's Thursday. Today is Sunday and I'm so confused. 5,000 police are expected in Paris alone for the Gilets Jaunes movement which was first created to oppose a planned fuel tax rise but grew into a pro- Notice how Euronews just kind of skips over the carbon tax Oh, it's just the fuel tax. When there is real recognition that we're here in the streets, and Macron acknowledges this in the media then maybe we'll make some progress. France has struggled to contain the movement in part because it has no apparent leader nor is it affiliated with a political party or trade union making negotiations rather difficult. Past weeks have seen violence on the streets but some gilets jaunes have put the blame for that on far left and far right groups

2:11:52 Fantastic how now they say that the protesters themselves are saying the violence is coming from far left and far right Which in fact was what President Macron said he's the one that started that huh? Yeah, these guys man this whole French thing I mean He's French well. They think they think that they're gonna negotiate no This this will not end the front height the French is going to bring the government down it ends when your head is lopped off yeah That's where they're always, that's what the end... yeah. That's their target always. That's their endgame. Macron has to quit! Ooh I don't see that happening. Well i don't either but he has to or this is going to continue? Article 13 of the EU copyright reform law

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EU Copyright Reform and Article 13 Negotiations

Negotiations for the EU Copyright Reform law, specifically Article 13, are reaching a critical phase in January. The law would make internet platforms liable for copyright infringements and likely require the implementation of strict upload filters. The hosts suggest the legislation is driven by major corporations like Disney to protect their intellectual property and control the flow of information.

article 13· eu copyright· upload filters· google· disney

2:12:39 You know, a new year, new round, new chances. Looks like we're going for a January 21st finalization." You'll remember this John! This was being discussed primarily Article 13 as it would basically prohibit any copyrighted work from being used anywhere without direct attribution payment and all kinds of stuff and you know seems like another attack on fair use. A nightmare is an attack on fair use well Negotiators currently have reached an agreement on the core of Article 13. They still want to make internet platforms directly liable for copyright infringements." This is going to be a tough one for the Sochnets and the Googles Here's the timeline. This week, 18th, the national governments will vote on the Councils position ahead of the final negotiation. If I can just use this word...this is how fucked up the EU is

2:13:36 So we're talking about something that is completely unenforceable, will ruin commerce in the EU I guess. Hopefully will ruin social media so i don't want to say it's a bad thing but here's how that works national governments vote on the council's position ahead of the final negotiation this is the moment of truth for eu member state governments Will Italy keep its promise to vote against it? Will Germany say, yeah we're against it or will go for as long as small businesses are excluded. Poland up in the air so that's the 18th thats just before the final

2:14:20 Who's behind this that anybody wants it in the first place? What is wrong with the current copyright that we have to copyright they're very liberal copyright laws that we have where you Maintain a copyright for 150 years after your death. I don't know who wants this Disney probably yeah, probably January 21st Then we will see the trilogue negotiations between Parliament and Council Which is an attempt to finalize the text then March April timeframe Final vote in the council that Starfleet command on you know unelected people March 25th 28, but more likely mid-april They'll have the final vote in the European Parliament. So here's the current status article 13

2:15:16 applies to internet platforms that organize and promote large amounts of copyright protected works uploaded by their users in order to make a profit. So, that is... let's see what they're saying here Copy protections not mean copyright infringing. Ah, this is what they're arguing about So the art I think it's coming down to semantics and words Copyright protected not the same as copyright infringing all creative text photos Of course everything is automatically copyrighted more or less Yes so there's going to be this distinction of copy protected versus copy in copyright copyright protected versus copyright infringing Let's see

2:16:02 It's still about who will be liable for it and if the social media networks can demonstrate that they are doing everything they can to deploy the strictest possible upload filters. This is never going to work. No, that's not gonna work but what is the real target here? Are they worried about people you know reproducing a photo an AP photo on their Facebook feed now or are they worried about downloading and latest new movie I actually think it's more about

2:16:45 We're seeing politicians now in the US who have figured it out that the old system of politicians and news corporations working together to determine policy, to set the mood, you know, to set the tone, In Europe they still haven't really and not in the States either, but we haven't figured it out that that way of doing things is over They're still operating on the premise of well if we can control the news And make sure there's no fake news and people aren't using you know stuff to create fake news out of other news Then we can control the news help our news friends But only the good news gets out. To me it feels something like that You're thinking It's more Disney-like

2:17:30 Generally speaking, if anything gets this far it has to have Disney-like characteristics. Meaning some... you know otherwise it wouldn't get this far I mean just a bunch of lame brains from the news media they can't come up with a scheme like you just described? Well they already have this copyrighted works and YouTube and they have things in place so that's I don't think there relitigating that There's something else going on here. We have to look into this somebody out there knows we have lawyers what it was really really about yeah, somebody knows what driving is going on with this stupidity Well its protection of something because everything they do is either to protect some brand of cheese you know some soap

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Ojo Electric Sit-Down Scooters in Austin

Ojo Electric announces the launch of a sit-down scooter service in Austin, adding to the city's existing fleet of thousands of dockless bikes and scooters. The hosts describe the vehicles as "Vespa-esque" but limited to 20 miles per hour. They criticize the increasing clutter on city sidewalks caused by these mobility solutions.

ojo electric· austin· scooters· dockless mobility· vespa

2:18:15 Yeah, Disney soap. If you look at the agreements, what was it? The big TPP agreement whatever is public about it... That was to protect the pharmaceutical companies! Exactly to protect what kind of drugs we got It's not about you stupid slaves. To protect the prices of drugs as well as scamming. Exactly So there's something scamish about this, but we don't specifically know what it is. Once we find out it'll open up a huge door of information and then we'll see what the hells going on. We will be the only ones by the way. Austin announces yet another new dockless mobility solution! Oh god now what? Yeah let's see what the name of this outfit is

2:18:58 Ojo, O-J-O. Ojo Electric announced Austin will be the launch of its first sit down scooter service! Woohoo! That's gotta really look stupid Oh there... You know what I would say? If it wasn't for... How do you spell it? Ojoelectric If if I didn't learn right now to not be able to say this I would say these scooters look so gay But I'm not allowed to say that. Vespa-esque in design, the light electric vehicles hit speeds of 20 miles... The commuter scooter by Ojo Electric! Look at that thing! How many are they deploying? We already have 9000 scooters God knows how many bikes It looks like a Vespa with no motor

2:19:50 Yeah, yeah. It does look like a Vespa and it has little box on the back that you can put your dog down the street with this dangerous Little guy can't get probably if he gets to 25 miles an hour would be a miracle no 20 only 20 is Austin regulation 20 miles an hour But it has up the cool little that little box in the back You can put your dog in there This is yeah, I did. Yeah a little baskets got baskets What am I hearing is? I don't want to say well what am I hearing there John what's going on? I'm playing the video Oh Okay, no understand kill it. I'll kill it that usually you can hear it motion alarm said I turned off the sound wireless key fob ooh 25 mile range oh brother top speed 20 you're right now that is the top speed

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Lime Scooter Software Glitch in Switzerland

Lime pulls its scooters from the streets of Basel and Zurich, Switzerland, after a software glitch caused the vehicles to brake abruptly during use. The malfunction was linked to a reboot that engaged the anti-theft immobilization system, throwing riders off. The hosts mock the company's offer of a 15-minute credit to affected users.

lime scooters· switzerland· software glitch· anti-theft· basel

2:20:37 It's a piece of crap. Yeah, and just more shit on the sidewalk! Yeah well there are people taking it on their yacht That's what they're doing They took all the drives to their yacht and threw it in the back Meanwhile something... although people are getting hurt And I don't like to see that People get hurt with all these things Something beautiful is happening in Switzerland The Lime scooters All received A software update Which is an over-the air update And, I'll read the headline. Limeholtz Scooter Service in Switzerland after possible software glitch throws users off mid-ride! Yes here's what happens so you're riding along at 20 miles an hour and then all of a sudden it's anti theft kicks in which locks the whole thing up and you go ass... you know lying yeah boom this is the way to do it we got to get into their updates

2:21:37 Can you imagine? You hit it and it goes backwards. There's all kinds of cool stuff we could do now I don't want people getting hurt but there's another one that right after this ran off the YouTube another one called the Xiaomi me electric scooter review by some millennial who's got like, you know He's got the whole he's got the throat beard. He's got the whole Scruffy look to him is now he's going on mostly promoting himself But he's gonna eventually review a scooter. I don't think we need this In the cities of Basel and Zurich, scooters have been taken off the road for safety checks after multiple reports of people injuring themselves after their scooters braked abruptly while in use. The company sent out to notice to users presented in screenshots below... In German the folder... Okay. Now it currently is investigating whether the malfunction is due to a software fault where an update of the software causes a scooter inadvertently to reboot during a ride thus engaging the anti-theft immobilization system

2:22:40 But if you've been thrown off they will give you a 15-minute credit. What? They should give you a doctor's appointment and all the injuries fixed, you get killed for getting thrown off something like that! This is this shit show is just starting it's really funny though and then we get these I looked at that article about the Vespa scooter was it the Ojo Look at that and anyone who if you're listening go look at the show notes when they're up in a shownotes.com You can see this map of where all these things are deployed it's it's really a small area of downtown where they just flooding this place and And we walk on the street is just everywhere there's things Things laying around scooters bikes now these Vespas yeah, people don't give a shit about God

CHAPTER 44 / 50 Discussion

Nicolas Maduro Inauguration and Venezuela Sanctions

Nicolas Maduro is inaugurated for a second term as President of Venezuela, blaming U.S. "imperialism" for the country's economic crisis. While the Trump administration and many Latin American nations refuse to recognize the election results, leaders from Cuba, Nicaragua, and Bolivia attended the ceremony. The hosts discuss the severe food and medicine shortages facing the Venezuelan people.

nicolas maduro· venezuela· donald trump· caracas· hyperinflation

2:23:36 Alright, let's go listen to Maduro out of Venezuela get a little update on him We hear him speaking a little bit and he's blaming everything on Trump Venezuela is the center of a world war of US imperialism in its allied governments. They have tried to turn this formal, legal, constitutional and peaceful ceremony into a world war against our country. The U.S. and its allies have refused to recognize Maduro's presidency calling last year's election illegitimate other Latin American leaders including Evo Morales of Bolivia Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua Miguel Diaz-Canal of Cuba welcomed Maduro's reelection and joined Thursdays inauguration in Caracas

2:24:17 The Trump administration has continued to ratchet up sanctions against Venezuela, even as its economy faces hyperinflation with severe shortages of food and medicine. About 3 million Venezuelans have left the country in recent years, with many settling in Colombia and Brazil." Yeah, that's just going down the tubes. I like—she kind of sides with this Maduro character. Even though he is the Trump of Venezuela? No, Maduro? Isn't that what you said? No, no he's blaming Trump. Oh he's blaming I'm sorry He's blaming Trump. I was gonna say well. He's not the Trump of Venezuela worse Of course she's on board because it's we have immigration illegal immigrant legal entry to say that Illegal entry because we fucked up all the South American countries That's basically what that's the story right there which is also Trump's fault

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Havana Syndrome and the Cricket Theory

New reports suggest that the mysterious "sonic attacks" on U.S. diplomats in Havana may have actually been caused by the sound of crickets. The hosts revisit early reporting from Andrea Mitchell and MSNBC, which suggested Russian involvement or sophisticated surveillance devices. they express deep skepticism that crickets could cause the severe hearing loss and brain damage reported by embassy staff.

havana syndrome· cuba· crickets· andrea mitchell· cia

2:25:15 Yeah, 40 years 50 years of policy is Trump's fault. That makes sense Well what also makes sense is to flash back for a moment The news came to us that the brain damaged cause to employees of the United States Embassy in Cuba that really just was because of crickets. Crickets? And it's just crickets and... We need a note from someone Oh yeah we got notes from people who live in the region I've said, I've heard crickets all my life. I don't have brain damage That's what he says we can't prove it of course could have could have but these people were you know that were physically ill and but you know the word came out as crickets everyone everyone's like Wow so glad it was just crickets wasn't some directed energy weapon or anything oh man who

2:26:12 That's good. I think every all the m5m are on board everyone is good with it Everyone's cool to go right have you seen anything else then oh wow? Geez we're a bunch of dopes It was just crickets, and I'd like to just go back to the Andrea Mitchell show on MSNBC for her reporting when this first took place and just recognize what she was saying, and what her sources are. The bizarre incidents beginning last October left a group of US diplomats with severe hearing loss blamed on what one official says could have been a surveillance device deployed inside or outside the Americans Havana residences which are all owned by Cuba's government

2:26:54 Several US agencies, the CIA FBI and State Department's diplomatic security service are all investigating. We don't know exactly where this came from okay we can't blame any one individual or a country at this point yet an investigation is underway we take that very seriously Canada also says some of its diplomats in Havana also suffered symptoms In Havana, a Cuban newscaster says the government is investigating and quote Cuba has never nor would it ever allow that the Cuban territory be used for any action against accredited diplomatic agents or their families. So who's responsible? Perhaps a third country some suggest possibly even Russia where there has been a surge of harassment and outright attacks against US diplomats in recent years

2:27:41 or just a surveillance attempt gone terribly wrong says a former CIA veteran. I personally think it was an accident, a surveillance attempt. I do not think the Cubans would attack us physically like that especially given the timing The US has already expelled two Cuban diplomats from Washington because of the unexplained illnesses in Havana only a first step depending on the investigation Andrea Mitchell NBC News Washington Oh no! So it was not the CIA, it was not any other intelligence service. It was not the shill she brought in. It was none of those people! Was not the State Department who said this was crickets. It was a bunch of jamokes who took a recording from Associated Press that they say was the recording and they matched up the waveform look just like cricket's mystery solved everybody's on board bullshit disgusting

2:28:40 I don't get how everybody got on board after those early reports. We played both of the ones that we had in the archives And it doesn't make any sense unless the early reporting was completely bullcrap. Well, it doesn't sound like it sounds like all of their stuff that's really true Yeah It sounds very believable and it was seems like they did some work on it and even brought a CIA shill in there kind of hemmed-and-hawed which it was made with at the time I thought what I thought is it was CIA had something to do with this because of where that guy reacted but The rest of this is crazy. It's being dropped, nobody's gonna follow up on this. Some kind of memo went out and was like okay it's crickets shut up that's your news yeah that's your news have you heard about the Earth's magnetic field moving faster than expected? Well I would expect to hear something like that but... well if it starting to get a little bit of reporting

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Earth's Magnetic North Pole Moving Toward Siberia

Scientists report that the Earth's magnetic north pole is moving away from the Canadian Arctic toward Siberia at an accelerated rate of 50 miles per hour. This shift requires frequent updates to GPS systems and navigation software. The hosts discuss the possibility of a geomagnetic reversal and the potential impact on satellites and the environment.

magnetic north· siberia· gps· geology· national geographic

2:29:38 Okay, we know it's wandering a bit. Well it always does and as an aviator... It flips every so often Yeah well as an aviator you know you often have to have your because you have magnetic north and true north and you have to have your compass adjusted when magnetic North changes and this happens typically at a 15 mile per hour rate. They kind of, you know... We have... In case you didn't know the earth is filled with all kinds of liquid molten goo that is magnetic and now it's picked up its pace and the goo is moving at almost 50 miles an hour pushing that actual North Pole, magnetic North Pole closer to Siberia

2:30:25 Place you really hear about this right now is, you know people who work on GPS's and stuff like that because they gotta- You have to change some of the code To take these small deviations into account But you don't think that could change anything on like I dunno a global scale do ya? Like what? What are you suggesting? I dunno. The weather Change the rotation. Do we get another wobble or do we wobble more? I don't think we wobble more unless like Gabagoo in the middle is getting you know unbalanced that'd be kind of interesting Well, that's what it seemed well no one knows geologists don't understand Nobody knows anything right but yet climate change is were all in science isn't shut up It's all good to go We didn't even know what's happening inside the earth

2:31:18 I didn't know it was increasing in. Yes, maybe we're ready for a flip! It could happen in our lifetime. Didn't seem unlikely. I thought we had a flip? We had a flip a couple of years ago. No, we didn't have a flip a couple years ago. I thought we did. In your lifetime? Yes where the poles reversed. So the north was south and then south was north are you kidding me?! I'm not kidding you that i remember something like that yeah poll reversal the polls have okay the polls have reversed frequently over the history of the planet. The last reversal oh see was only 780,000 years ago see in my lifetime Yeah well your an old man now Okay so seven hundred eight thousand years or so it reverses what they're expecting They don't talk about this so much is that in the process of reversing the polls actually

2:32:09 There's not enough influence, North and South Pole that it kind of shuts down before it flips. So we get to see the Aurora Borealis everywhere. Oh not only that satellites will fall from the sky... Well I don't know if anything is going to fall from the sky. Earth will cease a geomagnetic apocalypse! Now you're reading from the global warming scenario? No I'm actually reading from National Geographic From what year? January 31st 2018 And it says that the satellites are going to fall from the sky? Well, it says that's what people think might happen. It literally says we're all going... Just because of things flipped doesn't mean gravity is going away any time soon We are all going to die eventually but chances are that we will not immediately perish when Earths next geomagnetic reversal occurs That their conclusion Okay good

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BBC Proposal for Insect-Based Pet Food

The BBC's environmental analyst suggests that pet food manufacturers should switch to using insects instead of traditional meat to reduce the carbon footprint of domestic animals. The hosts mock the idea as part of a broader push to normalize eating bugs. They question where the byproducts of the meat industry would go if pet food production changed.

bbc· insects· pet food· carbon footprint· climate change

2:33:06 It's here. Okay, if it happens soon won't that be bad unclear? Scientists estimate the past polar flips have been rather sluggish with North and South migrating to opposite positions over thousands of years This is both good and bad if you're concerned about how a geomite or blah blah blah blah blah No one knows anything nothing but If we can stay with climate change there is something a great idea I'd like us to push this idea. Okay, to save the world from nasty co2 and the BBC came up with it Roger Harbin The BBC environmental analyst so we know that meat consumption of meat contributes largely to What do they call it carbon pollution all right cow Farts from the cow just processing things just all of this stuff

2:34:05 So what have people been asking us to do? Hold your breath. No, eat bugs! Oh yeah bugs of course. They've been pushing have people eat bugs you see bugs everywhere, bugs on the menu now people have some kind of reluctance to eating bugs I think you and i have a reasonably big reluctance to eating bugs certainly to save the earth We're not reptilian But BBC has a great idea Pet food manufacturers should be forced to make pet food from bugs. Oh, that's an interesting idea This is a great idea huh and it kind of puts two of our favorite memes together dogs are people and Let him eat bugs well a lot of what dogs eat or byproducts of the meat industry Mm-hmm where those byproducts gonna go now no they'll be less will just have you know less I don't know

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Ocean Warming Acceleration and William Arkin

A study published in the journal Science finds that the world's oceans are warming 40% faster than previously estimated, leading to rising sea levels and coral reef destruction. The hosts transition to discussing William Arkin, a veteran journalist who recently left NBC News while criticizing the "information complex" and the national security state.

ocean warming· climate change· william arkin· fbi· national security

2:35:09 I like the idea. Feed your dog bugs. It's definitely a trendy idea Yeah, and then the dogs you know eventually they'll get all angry and start attacking their owners You know that's just your wishful thinking says it right here in National Geographic Confused after your play this is that...I have a... I do have a global warming story Global Warming Report is the latest on oceans warming Ah Climate news, a major new study published in the journal Science finds the world's oceans are absorbing heat at a far faster rate than previously predicted. A finding with troubling implications for the future of life on Earth. The study found greenhouse gas emissions are warming the oceans 40% faster than even the dire predictions made by the UN's top climate scientists five years ago

2:35:59 The authors write, quote, this warming has contributed to increases in rainfall intensity rising sea levels the destruction of coral reefs declining ocean oxygen levels and declines in ice sheets glaciers and ice caps in the polar regions. Whoa! Yes lots of stuff happening tons of stuff going on there yeah flip look at the window same thing nothing's changed I want to play a couple more clips of this William Arkin guy who has his new book out. Yes, this is the journalist...well writer but journalist who left. He's all just a bunch of spooks. Let's play his take on the FBI. Well there's a crazy collateral damage of Donald Trump

2:36:53 And that is that there are a lot of liberals in America who believe that the CIA and the FBI is going to somehow save the country from Donald Trump. Well, I'm sorry—I am not a particular fan of either the CIA or the FBI. And the FBI, in particular, has a deplorable record in American society from Martin Luther King and the peace movements of the 1960s all the way up through Wen Ho Lee, and others who have been persecuted by the FBI. And there's no real evidence that the FBI is either—is that competent of an institution to begin with in terms of even pursuing the prosecutions that it's pursuing. But yet we lionize them. We hold them up on a pedestal that somehow they're the truth-tellers, that they're the ones who are getting to the bottom of things

CHAPTER 49 / 50 Discussion

William Arkin on the FBI and Military-Information Complex

Journalist William Arkin criticizes the American "national security establishment," arguing that the FBI and CIA are being unfairly lionized by liberals hoping they will stop Donald Trump. He highlights the "information complex," noting that companies like Amazon have become major defense contractors by building cloud infrastructure for the intelligence community.

william arkin· fbi· cia· amazon· national security

2:35:59 The authors write, quote, this warming has contributed to increases in rainfall intensity rising sea levels the destruction of coral reefs declining ocean oxygen levels and declines in ice sheets glaciers and ice caps in the polar regions. Whoa! Yes lots of stuff happening tons of stuff going on there yeah flip look at the window same thing nothing's changed I want to play a couple more clips of this William Arkin guy who has his new book out. Yes, this is the journalist...well writer but journalist who left. He's all just a bunch of spooks. Let's play his take on the FBI. Well there's a crazy collateral damage of Donald Trump

2:36:53 And that is that there are a lot of liberals in America who believe that the CIA and the FBI is going to somehow save the country from Donald Trump. Well, I'm sorry—I am not a particular fan of either the CIA or the FBI. And the FBI, in particular, has a deplorable record in American society from Martin Luther King and the peace movements of the 1960s all the way up through Wen Ho Lee, and others who have been persecuted by the FBI. And there's no real evidence that the FBI is either—is that competent of an institution to begin with in terms of even pursuing the prosecutions that it's pursuing. But yet we lionize them. We hold them up on a pedestal that somehow they're the truth-tellers, that they're the ones who are getting to the bottom of things

2:37:40 When when there's just no evidence that that's the case He never wants to work again. Is that his general? Slam is that what he's looking for I don't need work. I made plenty on my books Wow, it definitely goes out. This is what we heard before from other Super progressive the real left Yeah remember those black guys that had a day of a podcast and they were going on baffled by the fact that all these Progressives are talking about how great the FBI is when has been known to be a kind of a horrendous operation Doing anyone any good? That's fantastic

2:38:18 But, you know, Amy's still irked about the fact that she's a stooge. Yes, she's working in stoogeland and she has to listen to this guy go tell her about herself does not like it. Not good. You got another one from him? Yeah, let's play... He's got his little thing on the information society option I thought this was kind of interesting Well there is no question that national security establishment has grown and it has become far more powerful than it ever was But here's the change. We've shifted from the industrial age to the information age, and consequently we've also shifted from the dominance of the military-industrial complex if you will to a much more insidious and much more difficult to diagnose information complex

2:39:07 So, the advent of contractors, the advent of a professional military—which means that the military itself touches fewer and fewer lives in America—all of those work together to make the national security state more and more embedded within our society but yet at the same time more difficult to get to, more difficult to understand. Most people would be surprised to learn, for instance, that Amazon is one of the largest defense contractors. That they're building the cloud and they're building the data centers which support the intelligence community and support the military. And there are other civilian companies that we associate with being civilians who are also terrific beneficiaries of the military's largesse.

2:39:52 So, to me, to diagnose properly where we stand today—the point of the Top Secret America investigation was to show the wild growth of all areas of national security and this new invention of homeland security, if you will. But at the same time, to point out that it wasn't something that was necessarily segregated from our society, it was more and more embedded within our society. And that made it more and more difficult to analyze properly and do something about." Oh I wanted to hear what Amy said to that! She just pushed him onto the next topic she didn't say anything. Oh my... yeah well there is it

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Show Wrap-Up and 2020 Candidate Montage

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, promising to return on Thursday. The episode concludes with a montage of 2020 presidential candidates, including Elizabeth Warren drinking a beer on Instagram and Amy Klobuchar's appeal to rural voters. The final segments include various humorous clips and soundbites from political figures.

adam curry· john c dvorak· 2020 election· amy klobuchar· elizabeth warren

2:40:34 It's just, there will be no news by the time it is time to elect a new president. Nothing! And we're riding this ship all the way to the bottom We're riding this baby all the way All the way to the bottom As long as we get support to ride this baby and we will Yes and we appreciate the support that you received today and uh... were twice week now on Thursday so even though I said Sunday meant Thursday and its today its Sundays Yeah, it's expected. I have an overexposure of fake news coursing through my veins is what causes it Thank you all for supporting the show thank you for producing and Remember that we will be back on Thursday remember us at Dvorak org slash na now I am coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state and dockless mobility in the 5 by 9 Cluedo in the common law condo in the morning everybody My name is Adam Curry

2:41:31 And from Northern Silicon Valley where we say, Go Chiefs! Go Rams. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda until then adios mofos and such Ow! See you in the morning Everyone is trying to figure out who the Democrats will run. I have plenty of time to consider whether or not we have really qualified people out there. Interesting results here, first of all almost a third 29% said

2:42:10 someone else. I don't know. Senator Ojeda tells 13 News he's stepping down in order to focus on his run for president in 2020 George W Bush they will said everybody said oh he's the one you could want to have a beer with yeah, he'll make a great president because we want to get drunk with him Is that worse for a woman though, that whole idea? Well I think women are held to a different standard. Hold on a second...I'm gonna get me ummm....a beer! She's now revealed the beer she was sipping was a Michelob Ultra, what she calls the club soda of beers and her favorite. I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week.

2:42:54 Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, she's the one that I think is interesting to watch because she does very well in rural areas which is not something most Democrats can say these days. In the morning So if Mike were to run doing it as an independent wouldn't work whether he actually runs a Democrat? I don't know...I know he'd be the best person to beat President Yo soy candidato para presidente de los Estados Unidos! There's no video of president Trump sucking a ding dong

2:43:39 I never sucked any ding-dongs. Sucked any ding-dongs... There's no video of President Trump sucking the ding dong. But, I'll tell you if they were to blackmail me and start World War 3 about one, I'd say hey I sucked a f***ing ball.

2:44:18 There was a lot of butt squeezing.