Lefties are Right

00:00 Maybe we need no agenda emergency hammers. Reading the black bars of FOIA and broadcasting live from the Capitol, The Drone Star State here in downtown Austin Tejas. In the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're doing a show pre-Zephyr! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill IN THE MORNING! Yeah you're right that's the groovy part about a podcast We can start whenever we want early late Or whenever were ready which is what we do Yes Whenever were ready Whenever were ready

00:43 Man, a lot of grief. I got a lot of grief! I think you could open every show with that. We hit Belgium head-on with the rainsticks just got the lower half of The Netherlands but... We discussed this on Twitter and really have nothing to say You know my position on this. I can hold myself blameless for this mess Well, it gets worse because we have a very serious request from Norway now. So first of all it rained everywhere except in the Netherlands where we wanted to rain and thanks Muslim clerics! A lot of good you're praying did that didn't help much

01:27 Andromeda... I think it's because, you know a lot of this has to do with the speakers in the countries and the volume that they play the show at. And i'm just guessing that in Holland they played the show over earbuds? Yes! It is not loud enough. Well, Andromeda wrote-in from Norway and she and her husband say it's pretty critical In fact we are their last chance Since the beginning of May, there's been an unusual period of beautiful and warm weather in Norway. Unseen in decades maybe ever! Sunshine for days temperature breaking every possible record 30 tropical days so far IN NORWAY! All caps. Wow sounds good That's what I'm saying why would you- What are they complaining about? What is your problem? Is it rain...is this a place on fire no Yes yes numerous forest fires

02:27 But here's the real problem. Because the warm weather began so early this year in April, they have a full-blown agricultural crisis. Yes well that's nothing we can do about that. Grass from first yield was 30% of a normal year so they don't think there'll be any second yield Farmers are sending their cattle to slaughterhouses because they won't have enough feed for the winter, which will lead to a shortage of dairy products next year and possibly the year after that. But a boom in meat! Yeah... I guess they imported hay from the US?

03:09 Even though GMO products are banned which of course everything that we sell is GMO pretty much yeah, so I mean there's a poison the world they're specifically asking for rain stick action and I don't want to deny anyone that but I feel a little gun-shy after I was I admit. I Was it little careless on the stick? But maybe we should just do one shake for Norway? I think you did... You mean, you know, one flip period no more. One flip for Norway And we're gonna do it simultaneously this time Yes yes that you count me in i mean i've clearly got to get my uh My game back on Okay On the count of three two one count all right We flip once All right Three Two One Allllright Norwaayyyy

04:06 Andromeda, let us know how that went. That was not enough to do too much damage... No I think if anything that misses Norway will be okay but again apologies to Belgium Wow so sorry no well you know then again then again well after years of speculation years i tell ya and certainly speculation on this show we've always wondered who was behind the white helmets Those agent provocateurs, those actors who love saving people then saving them again for the Instagram for their buddies.

04:42 We've seen it so many times. They've seen a number of people two or three times wearing the same exact clothes Yeah, but also they put the victim back and then they do the whole scene again on Instagram! They're very silly For years The White Helmets have saved thousands of lives in Syria But now even they had to flee After requests from the United States and some European countries Israel evacuated them and their families to Jordan saying there'd been an immediate threat to their lives. Israel's military stressed its non-intervention policy in Syria, according to Jordan's foreign ministry they'll spend three months in the country and then be settled in Britain Germany and Canada The white helmets have mostly saved lives by rescuing people trapped in rubble after government and Russian airstrikes in rebel held territory

05:31 Jordan's foreign ministry said their lives were in danger after a government offensive regained rebel-held parts of southern Syria. In all, 800 men women and children were bussed out of the danger zone towards Jordan. In the last few days several hundred rebels and their families have also been evacuated from Quneitra province as part of a peace deal brokered by the Russian military. The Syrian army backed by Russian air strikes is gaining ground in the province which borders the Golan Heights Israel annexed the Golan from Syria in 1981 Well there you go, so Israel was funding him after all Find that weird why? Variant reports we kept getting well remember the whole the whole strategy behind the weight white helmets is you know keep telling lies about what's been going on and Therefore more intervention more pushback more bombs even Trump bombed a couple times To me it seems very clear Israel was behind it and they're bringing them extracting him now that we apparently have some deal that no one's reporting on

06:39 I mean, was there any big headline breaking news for you? That that was the secret meeting between Putin and Trump. Yes! Obviously so he hooked it up so he's got Russia working with Israel they're gonna take care of this serious situation how that affects Iran is a little unclear but that must have been part of the deal like yeah all right keep Iran out of there and we'll let you guys do whatever you need to do in and now it looks like two million Syrian refugees can go home Well, let's hope that's exactly what happens. Well of course we hope that's what happens I wouldn't want any other way! I'm just a little irked at the Israelis were behind the white helmets it seems very obvious to me Huh well again this is not proof positive by any means No of course coincidence why? All right fine coincidence Could be Yeah could be i'm not buying it It seems like they were the bad actors

07:44 With on that part, I mean everyone was a bad. Everyone is about actor but i don't but there's been no announcements no Overview no real explanation of what what the deal was? But yeah Of course that that's what they discussed let's repeat let's subpoena the translators nut jobs Seriously nut jobs well They're completely out of control The media has lost it this guy mark shields That's on the uh PBS NewsHour on Fridays with Brooks. The guy, besides now he's like apoplectic over Trump. Good word! Would you please explain apoplectic? You know a wreck. Okay he's a wreck yes and he... do I have these clips here just where my Shields clips yeah I got it here I got shields shields on Trump Putin Yeah I guess shields

08:45 What is this? I don't know. I have clips here, did you print off the wrong clip list? I'm gonna have to think that Okay Why don't i play it and you can hit ctrl p. Oh wait let me set it up okay Let me set it up He is not only shaking now when he's talking about Trump. Ooh, he's getting liver spots all over his face His hair is kind of like doesn't look right like a bad hair day. He's just a wreck Oh, he's getting sick from it This is where this is a bad situation this I've seen as I would relate a anecdote that my daughter told She said she's out

09:27 at some restaurant and there's a guy sitting nearby bitching about Trump, and then bitching about the fact that since Trump has been elected he's developed high blood pressure and has to take a bunch of medication. Oh God! unhealthy behavior people. I hate what we've been saying all along, but let's listen to this guy go nuts. All right meanwhile you get the flat cable and put it in the RS-232. We're left with Judy a week of uh i think a blow to the United States of America. Uh I don't know if there is any question about it? To our leadership ship the fraying of our relations with our longtime allies, a dismissal almost to disparagement by the American president of democratically elected leaders and the messy problems that democracy requires. An adulation, a flattery, a giant sucking sound in the company of the Russian dictator

10:24 the president's part. Dan Balz, perhaps as respected a writer as there is on politics in America wrote is the when the setting called for a show of strength and resolve Trump instead offered deference defensiveness equivocation and weakness and I think that's fair So does Shields not have an original thought of his own? He has to quote other authors. I guess, yes! I mean that's...I find it to be humiliating but if you're a pundit Yeah, you should have your own opinions You're a pundit for a reason. You are there to express your opinions Not to quote somebody else's opinion you think is superior The way i look at it well let's get that guy on the show! What do we want from you?! We can almost predict

11:12 Who's gonna have a heart attack first? Seriously. We're seeing we're seeing a lot of heart attacks in the making, from all a lot of these guys who are just spitting mad I'm spitting mess. You're right, it's just incredibly unhealthy and they've just fallen into this trap. I have some thoughts on this after this second clip of Shields. Donald Trump is when he stands there and contradicts the unanimous judgment of all the men and women who are professionals in United States intelligence services who have concluded unanimously that Russia

11:54 was behind the meddling cyber attacks and continues to be at this time, and stands there and says, pays the ultimate compliment. You can talk about his words we know his words in his lexicon, the lexicon of Donald Trump there are no greater compliments than to say strong and powerful. And what did he whom did he call? He called it to call anybody weak is the ultimate insult. And he paid the ultimate compliment Sounds like the ultimate compliment to me.

12:41 The guy, he did have some right analysis there about what Trump thinks is a compliment and what he thinks is an insult. Weak! We've discussed weak on the show sometime ago. This guy promotes the bullcrap that a hundred percent in fact He's taking it further about the intelligence agencies all agreeing. Mm-hmm now, it's unanimous Every single intelligent agent intelligence agent and on every agency yeah well he would know I guess

13:21 You know, I just had a great idea for strategy for the Democrats. It's not a new one, but the timing would be perfect right now. They're early with that I mean they've they're peaking so hard right now with with yeah This is gonna be a problem Yeah, I mean to take this all the way to November we need more events We don't have in Putin was that was I think that's the summit That was the meeting you know that was the big one they can keep this going for a while But already if you look at There was a Gallup poll which I guess I trust gallop that had, you know Russian collusion is like 17 or 18 on the list of things people find important in America. Yeah I didn't expect it to be high but i didn't know was that low because people are tuned out they're just tuned out and its not working anymore Well they hear over and over again where's the evidence? And all the rest of this... Right! No they're also just tuned out They're just tuning out their done with it But there is something that could be done It's an old strategy we've discussed before Remember the Democratic Party

14:22 completely leaderless and I would say true just speaking of heart attacks it will be a good time for build to go Yeah, actually because then we could have a solid six weeks of mourning and video lots of video about his values how great he was Yes How are you got rid of Yugoslavia all kinds of great things that we could Could miss I mean it. He was a fun president. I'll say it was he had good moments

15:00 But then, you know that would kind of ramp up into re-establishing the Democratic Party values and then Hillary could come back in very smoothly and really start to bring people back together whether for herself or for somebody else. For herself? It would be a well probably for herself I'm just saying it would be an interesting strategy not for Bill of course he might not think it's so interesting No and Bill is not really...I don't know He's not really upset about anything. I mean, he's not like this Shields guy who is upset. He's epiplectic as I like to say Yeah, he Bill's not he just thinks it's great because it's like It was just fine. He doesn't care so he's not he doesn't really he's not really a candidate for an immediate Heart attack but have you seen him?

15:50 Yeah, he looks like hell. He has a shadow of his former self. It wouldn't surprise anybody if he drops dead. Exactly and the hag team to be ready. Did you see David Rockefeller when he was 99? I mean the guy went for another decade or so. He looked like he was walking dead. Well that's because he drinks infant blood or something. That's what those guys do. I have one deranged clip from From NPR which has just been such a joy to listen to you know NPR news This is actually the week in the week in the news. It's an actual news program not just some about the news It's about the news yes, Jack Beatty back once again Well I didn't realize that Fifth Avenue ran through Helsinki now That was to me the revelation You know during the campaign the president of Canada Trump said my people will support me even if I go out on 5th Avenue and shoot somebody

16:41 Well, the New York Daily News on Tuesday had a cover showing Trump and Putin walking down Fifth Avenue. Putin is bare-chested by the way! And Trump is holding a pistol and he's shooting Uncle Sam That press conference was the Fifth Avenue moment. And it told Trump, I think the danger is that it told Trump that he can get away with almost anything because what was the response? According to one poll 79% of Republicans thought that debacle... Is it a debacle? Debacle? Yes, debacle! I don't think it's an alternative from now on it is

17:24 It's a debacle, baby. My debacle was a debris let me tell you. Because what was the response? According to one poll 79% of Republicans thought that debacle of press conference and the meeting was a success Meanwhile in Russia, the host of a state TV program said Trump quote smells like an agent of the Kremlin. There was some hand-wringing in Congress but nothing very decisive. In fact the House voted down a measure to increase election security spending And Trump is getting, if Trump has got the message he can get away with anything. We're on the road to Norm Ornstein's nightmare and he's of course the AEI political expert. His nightmare is that Trump fires Mueller, pardons himself and everybody else sends his followers into the streets

18:18 after the inevitable bloodshed declares martial law. Now you say, well that can't happen! Well who would have thought that the president could openly collude not only openly collude openly canoodle with a strong and powerful Kremlin leader and would receive 79% response from Republicans? There ya go! Canoodle baby Holy macros this guy on Unhinged yeah And by the way, it finally was the Huffington Post finally wrote something's been bothering me for a while About by the way that was one hell of a clip you dug up there. Thank you, but no No, it's okay. I don't think so either What was he gonna say

19:05 You're talking about the Huffington Post. They finally knocked him under. Yeah, they finally wrote someone there over there finally wrote an article and said you know New York Times when you're making jokes...and this guy kind of did that a little bit as well When you're making jokes about Putin and Trump being gay lovers it's homophobia And it is, because what it says is... Well you better give us some background because there was I don't think we've talked about this. No we haven't so they had a cartoon in the New York Times on their website and it was an animated cartoon and it was Putin and Trump and they're kissing and they're making out and they're naked and they're cuddling and canoodling Yeah its gay yeah gay as gay lovers

19:51 You know, I don't understand how you could... How in one hand you can be an SJW BLML GGBTTQIAPK ally and at the end... And then mock the whole gay relationship. Yeah! It's because gay guys are not in the group. I've said this before there is no community. And it's the gay guys who are getting the brunt of it now. Some of them are standing up saying hey excuse me this is not okay It's about time. Yeah, yeah. Very annoying. Yeah, I found that cartoon to be hilariously uh besides homophobic tasteless and insulting and you know people are there was somebody i don't know if i have that clip or not but something's going on and on about oh my god trump said something about somebody he's never been never how can he be so insulting there's other ways of doing things there's other ways of presenting things everybody listen to what they say about this guy no

20:53 Or that cartoon, I mean it's outrageously insulting. But that's part of what is going on. Well i don't know if it was outrageously insulting to gay men it was? No I think it was insulting to Putin and Trump. They're not kissing they're not you know he sees the gay... There they were! These are statesmen that are trying to, you know maybe get us to world peace and maybe drop the potential for us blowing each other's smithereens. Maybe minimize that a little bit? You know work in that direction Is that bad I mean all of sudden they're kissing and smooching because we're trying to like maybe drop the World War III thing down to maybe not so much gonna happen. I don't get it

21:44 Well, I'm not the only one who doesn't get it. Okay? I don't get it well. I knew That was my sec yeah, I'm looking for the clip what are we playing? Never figure it out so they had a juma J Ma or Jama Baraka this guy's of left left lefty You sent me this and I listened to it And I wanted explain a little bit about this guy because I was not familiar with him Okay, who Jama Baraka major major major lefty He was the one who ran as a socialist as vice president under Jill Stein. Ah all right okay? Yes now we remember who he is but he's real lefty. He's a Socialist borderline communist hates capitalism he's the old school and him and his coat in his comrades

22:34 are all very baffled by what's going on in the political scene because the stuff that Trump is doing, going after the FBI and CIA and having these wars with them seems to be like this is... What they left you to do. ...what we wanted to do forever! Yeah, you've been saying this for years that that's what the Left used to be They used to be against anti-war, anti government Certainly wary of the government. Anti-intelligence agencies, anti FBI, anti war all these things and anti capitalist which I think is the weak spot And they want to stop the Vietnam War Yes let's stop it we gotta stop that war

23:17 So let's listen to some thoughts. Now these are not short because with the left, I will explain this... With the left they can't really- The true left or the fake left of now? The true left. Not the fake left, not the Bernie Sanders it turns out the true left, they and I realize that this permeates all of the politics at the smallest littlest levels in the state of California. The true left is long winded. They can't just be concise. They can't just say something they have to go on and on and on. And this reminded me when

23:59 when JC was a Bayer's kid and we were thinking of taking him to childcare in this little area in Albany, but to take your child there you had to take part. You had to do something. I can just see your eyes roll up in your head! You have to do something and then you and you had to go to the weekly meeting. What was your participation? Did you do the hokey-pokey with the kids? No it turns out that you could buy your way out with money In great California tradition. So, but they had to go to these meetings and I think that was the deal breaker for me these meetings What kind of outfit was this with meeting? It's like Montessori AA? It is a typical Bay Area local daycare These meeting were long winded women going on and on to the point where you wanted to shoot yourself

25:00 And that's what we're going to have to deal with when you listen to lefties. But these guys are the real deal, and this is the kind of thinking that's going on in the Left, the true Left... Wait one more question I'll be quiet. Did you play The Recorder with the kids? Here, let's start with clip one. Please welcome Ajamu Baraka to Flashpoint South Pacifica Radio. How are you sir? I'm doing well. I thought for a moment you were going to say that was shook into the right also. Oh no... Well just to make that clear to our listeners Let me read something from the Black Alliance for Peace, the last newsletter I just received

25:41 The ongoing and deepening crisis of US society has caused anger, fear and confusion. The precipitous decline of the standard for living for millions of people in the United States helped produce conditions for the election of Trump This in turn created the Democrats irrational anti-Russia position The problem, of course is that whether it is taking aggressive military militaristic positions with either Russia or North Korea pushing an already unstable and reckless Trump administration to be more forceful as a dangerous position that could easily pull the United States into another military conflict. But that is precisely what the Democrats in their liberal allies have been demanding with potentially disastrous consequences for millions. That's a heck of a statement I agree with

26:29 So that was the kind of introduction to this guy and it starts off with some Democrat hate. And their argument they start to make is that the Democrats have no left leaning people anymore, they're all liberals and they never say neoliberals but they call them all liberals and they're kinda leaning to the right and they've adopted what were once Republican positions so far as hating Russia and wanting war Let's go on to clip two where we get a little more interesting. If you struggle now in certain kind of way, you will be accused of being an authoritarian or abusive or whatever everything has shifted. Everything is shifted but don't we still have history? I mean that was one of the things that the left in this country prided itself on which was it was on the right side of history

27:21 and would constantly cite chapter and verse history. So for example, you and I both know share knowledge that the history of the FBI in this country, The Federal Bureau of Investigation is one of a secret police force is one has largely been one of oppression particularly when it comes to the relationship with the FBI to the black community in this country Or when it comes to the relationship of the FBI assassinating political figures like... Hold on. What is the historical bad relationship between the FBI and the black community in this country? Well, it goes back to the assassination of Martin Luther King! We're sure that the FBI did that

28:05 They're pretty convinced of it in there and they also got some of the records from the old J Edgar Hoover thing where they put a tail on these anyone who was a righty one or anything to do with King with civil rights had a tail put on him The FBI was following them around and bugging their phones. And I mean you could read this books written about it but but this thing here what he's about to say is that when they kind of got me Because he said it on some other show, this guy the guy who's the host about this assassination of this Puerto Rican guy. I don't know anything about this but back it up. When it comes to the relationship with the FBI to the black community in this country or when it comes to the relationship with the FBI assassinating political figures like Filiberto Ojeda-Rios in Puerto Rico right? We know that

28:50 Sounds like from his pronunciation. He's got an axe to grind with it that's for sure, but just because he has I think this guy's a Latino me That's what I'm saying you know and he's got but there's who is this guy that was assassinated in poor John they're on local Berkeley radio who cares No one's listening In Puerto Rico right we know that But just because Trump criticizes the FBI and Mueller, and says that... They're putting one on him, doesn't automatically eliminate what we know about the FBI. But suddenly we've got these fools saying you know, we should not be criticizing the FBI. Look Kevin I'm not going to call this person's name there was someone i saw on Facebook just yesterday a well-known if that famous leftist in this country

29:49 who was circulating a story from the Daily, what's that? Daily Calls. One of those liberal rags- The Daily Caller, is that him? Yeah. In which they were... The central character in that story was John Brennan who was in fact criticizing Trump and basically saying that what he did was essentially a traitorous. And so I'm thinking, why would this individual be highlighting and legitimizing a criminal like John Brennan? This is the kind of confusion that we have at this point. Now how does he know John Brennan's a criminal

30:37 It's just by definition. Okay, so now we're talking this is the real left and it is one of the things that we don't do on this show which is look at the other side but not the other bogus side not to Bernie Sanders side the actual other side actual other side of the fence and hear what they have to say, because they're completely beside themselves witnessing this because it makes no sense to them. And this is kind of brought to a head in clip three. The fact that there was this off the shelf illegal intelligence operation that seemed to take form in July of 2016 under the auspices and control of Democratic Party operatives, to infiltrate

31:27 and to begin to gather information on the Trump campaign in order to either come up with a quote-unquote October surprise or to, in fact as Peter Strzok said, have an insurance policy just in case of the unlikely possibility of Donald Trump winning. So this This criminality that Trump refers to all the time took place at the highest levels of the FBI and CIA. They roped in the DSA under the leadership of the Director of National Intelligence. And they never dreamed, I think that this depth of conspiracy would come out because again they were convinced

32:21 that Hillary Clinton was going to win. And if she would have won, then this kind of illegal activity that they engaged in and infiltrating this opposition campaign wouldn't have come out. But there's enough My point is there's enough evidence there for us to at least be raising serious questions. But because Trump is raising those questions and people who support Trump, then they are automatically automatically dismissed. And that to me is very, very dangerous cause we're talking about criminal activity at the highest level of government one but secondly What does it imply if a real radical, for example was able to win that highest office through some kind of miracle? Oh Lord. If these folks are willing to engage in what they're engaging in right now to undermine a member of their own class what would they have done if Jill Steinmeier had won? Well the same thing they didn't do when Obama won who was definitely radical well yeah hard to say

33:28 But they definitely wanted Hillary in. They were irked about it. Yeah, but the way you got to look at this all the people who are shaking and angry and deranged I can't think that anything else than those people are somehow even tangentially they are complicit in whatever was going on that made everyone just all easy about her winning If that makes any sense. Well, I see representatives, I see senators...I see a lot of people very worried about anything else being uncovered from all these investigations and it was little hard to look through all the redactions but you know the FISA warrant for Carter Page which is now out and again it's heavily redacted You can't get much from it but you certainly can't get the key things you'd be looking for

34:24 Like, you know... the origin of the dossier. Now it may be redacted out somewhere but why would you redect that out? You'd expect them to leave that in. Not if it was sketchy! Well yeah okay agreed if it was sketchy you'd leave it out and now there's nothing in there. No, there is nothing Well, anyway I got a kick out of listening to these lefties going on and on because they're right. It's like this is high-level corruption and nobody seems to care. The lefties are right! I'm so confused now. The lefties are right! I'm confused So is this still the leader of the real lefties? Are there any other ones left? No he's not the leader of anything He has just one of the spoke...He's one of many in the group but it's as if they

35:17 They're beside themselves, they don't know what to do. And he said earlier in the second clip, you can't say anything because then they call your names. That's horrible! They might call me names... Oh boy... Okay That was I just thought that was a very interesting. Well, I liked hearing I did even the second time was fun listening to it So you listen you actually listened the whole thing? Yeah, you sent it to me I listened to it and I replied to your email Oh, I didn't get that really I didn't see it Come on go find this Go to your squirm ale John Find it no, you can find my emails

36:16 That's right! The mail program that never disappoints, it's... Whoa! Gives the product a whole new boost. Oh yeah I think people are gonna flock to it now Dustin Jones thank you for that Dustin got the message Let's see I did get a couple other things Hold on a second I actually went to squirrel mail and thank you for that because I needed to You need to hit update I need to open it to get the spreadsheet off. Oh, okay very good. Let's see... Our DHS cyber chief reporting now the election system works is resilient to tampering so... It wasn't tampered with before! That's right that's correct but just letting you know what they're saying

37:19 Actually the most interesting thing to me that came in, I think it's actually a tweet that someone said I should take a look at this. You know we were very not just we but security experts Steve Gibson were just flummoxed as to this level of detail that the intelligence... Didn't you play this Gibson clip the last show? Yes i did yeah I'm not going to play it again and just referring to the last show how Even security expert Steve Gibson was confused. Did they have some kind of general, all-encompassing knowledge of every packet on the internet? I'm paraphrasing but that's kinda what it is. Yes it makes zero sense what they said. Well... But they are all in agreement unanimously!

38:05 The, uh... So one of our producers, a dude named Ben tweeted something to me and I looked into the Cisco router lawful intercept function which i love as a name by itself. It's very Orwellian Oh, it's dynamite. So lawful intercept... and I'm looking at the docs here. It says publicly available on the Cisco website. Lawful intercept is a process that enables a law enforcement agency to perform electronic surveillance on an individual target as authorized by judicial or administrative order so you would need, I presume, a warrant or form of a warrant

38:45 To facilitate the lawful intercept process, certain legislation regulations require service providers and internet service providers to implement their networks to explicitly support authorized electronic surveillance. I didn't know that was a requirement... doesn't surprise me but it wasn't a requirement Let's see how this works so now the way they this is legal it supports the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, the CALEA which describes how service providers in the United States must support lawful intercept. But it only works with the Telephone Industry Association and the packet cable electronic surveillance specifications, so I guess that encompasses all ISPs but it seems to be more kind of a legal way of doing this because it involves wires? That's where the CALEA thing comes from

39:45 But if you look at what they can do, it's really quite interesting. So let me see... They can identify a device authentication authorization accounting well they get the I can think actually says they can get targets username system IP addresses Really they can make snapshots of every packet where it's going but they also have this tap function Where if you're going to listen to someone's VoIP call or any other call that's going over the network It will just suck off every single packet and then be reassembled later into whatever it needs to be To decode it whether it was an email, or whether it was just a file being sent. Or whether there was

40:34 voice over IP stream. They really do, it's kind of like the building on 2nd Street in San Francisco where they just plug in a tap and just suck off everything that's going to that particular IP address. Yeah and worry about it later. Yep yep So that could be a way that they got some of this information. I presume, that would mean that they had to have the lawful intercept function enabled on a router near the GRU in Russia? I guess... Maybe Maybe not, but I think this is all bullcrap. Oh very possible But I wouldn't mind actually knowing I wouldn't mind understanding it and I'm as always disappointed in the technology press I'm looking at you CNET or any New York Times anybody just give me a little more information on this what exactly? It happened how do they know this ask the question at least nobody even bothers to ask no question Well, you can look at that document in the show will say this

41:38 The fact that Trump and Putin had a secret meeting for four minutes or whatever it was... Two hours. Oh, two hours? It was two hours! Four minutes, two hours, whatever. Yeah So they had this secret meeting and nothing snuck out of there because Putin is a little more, I mean maybe the KGB or not. His trade craft is his spycraft. They swept the room so they have to say oh my god we wanted some stuff that...I almost get the impression Trump wanted something to leak And nothing leaked, so they said okay we're gonna invite Putin to Washington. Because when he comes over here we're gonna have another secret meeting it'll get leaked because my office is filled with bugs! One of our producers posited that was a pretty interesting idea that there could have been a USB stick handoff in the meeting

42:32 Yeah, I thought that was a good idea. It's possible. Yeah it could be all kinds of stuff. No probably what they did is look how do we save China because that'll suck if those guys go down? We need to protect Xi said hey what can we do with these this situation in Syria Looks like they fixed it. I don't think Trump's a big fan of this war in Syria, like the neocons are No And let's remember that that is really the reason for this Russia hate is there is a large group certainly in the United States who really advocate for war and they really want it because It's good for business and I'd say you can call them neocons You can call them Republicans They're douchebags

43:10 But they own douchebags. Yeah, well their douche bags but they really want war because it does It does work, but we don't need it We don't the economy is on paper looks great For whatever, for whatever that means. Well a lot of it has to do with we decimated our manufacturing base by giving everything to China and letting them take our technology and everything in between It's gonna look great because it looks like after the war were rebuilding the economy like Germany after World War II After the war yeah exactly So things would be looking good technically And just a note on meddling in other people's affairs, just meddling whether it's elections or otherwise. Meddling? I was doing some research and you remember it was Frank Wisner who started the Mockingbird operation, which later

43:59 was uncovered in the Church Commission hearings and turns out that a whole bunch of journalists were on the CIA payroll. But I mean really across the board, Washington Post, The Alsop Brothers... Isn't Stuart Alsop still writing for The New York Times? Or is he dead by now? Venture capitalist Stuart Alsop who was the editor of InfoWorld At the time New York Herald Tribune No, you're thinking that's a different El Sop. You think Stuart El Sop is the guy we know? That says Stuart El Sop here in this... Yeah he's his son. Oh okay. His family got everybody's name pretty much the same. Ah okay so it was his dad then

44:43 Like his dad or his uncle. I have no idea. Let me see Stuart Alsa Ben Bradley James Reston's the Times Charles Douglas Jackson Time magazine Walter Pincus There's a name, I remember The Post William C bags herb gold Charles Bartlett Chattanooga Times Anyway So I was researching this and it turns out that there was another op that was all for really us based press But then we also had a lot of people that overseas I mean the Paris Review was the CIA front. Well, let me look okay This is what this is where I'm going? I just want everyone to know what we have been doing and how we operate here America We do it pretty well actually and it started with something which was completely CIA funded you remain you may remember this I'm too young for it the Congress

45:38 What was it? The Congress for Cultural Freedom, the CCF. Does this ring a bell at all? No. Well it later was exposed by some French magazine, Rampart Magazine actually I think at the time were based in Paris but this thing was an operation where they just had hundreds of millions of dollars and they were giving it to agents and contractors worldwide but mainly in Europe you know, the post-second World War Cold War Europe to accept the quote American way and they financed the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra to go over and play but they did big parties for artists. They had these CA connected spooks who have galleries. They had co-opted

46:30 There's you know, there's a there's always been speculated They co-opted Andy Warhol or at least liked his soup cans and Brillo pads so much because it It projected Americana and there was just hundreds of millions of dollars being spent on psychologically indoctrinating the artistic Intelligentsia of Western Europe. And it was a huge program I've never heard anyone really to talk about it Yes, there was been some discussion about this co-opting the art community by the CIA to promote American values Especially overseas where they really didn't exist much and this is 60 70s when this was taking place Yeah, I don't know too much about it. I've heard a couple of things even recently They've been trying to do stuff like that

47:21 Well, we still have Voice of America proudly beaming out on long wave. No I mean I'm talking about in the arts. Oh yeah! Well music? A lot of music has potential for influence just getting it played. I'm still waiting for my CIA check. Yeah where is it? I taught Holland how to say Madonna come on guys give me a check Yeah, well you're... But it's really fascinating. You already did that just water under the bridge you don't- It's like you don't pay the guy after the fact. Afterwards no but I did put a couple of links in the show notes nashownotes.com and learn about the Congress for Cultural Freedom was truly a fantastic operation and we go straight for the entertainment and through that i learned

48:13 Both 1984 and Animal Farm, the endings were edited by the CIA. Different from the book. That's where that whole Hollywood office started So if you read Animal Farm and you look at the US production of Animal Farm, At the end in the animated movie it's just the pigs who are left over. In the book of course it is the pigs and the farmers and there's this open to interpretation as to what happens It's a little different than the CIA edited version And that's now all admitted That they sat there and said no we can't have that

48:54 I don't really like the idea of the CIA making those sorts of artistic determinations. They're not really a bunch of artists by their nature. They're not, they're not! They don't have artist sensibilities so... But what are you gonna do? But since you brought a word up, I might as well play this little clip and get it out of the way. Because I know you've been wanting this one. This is Carling says carling on nice fine and great. I know what it is that bothers me about that whole thing. It's the word nice. It's just weak word doesn't have a lot of character. You know? Nice. Isn't he nice

49:37 Oh, he is so nice! And she's nice too. Isn't that... how nice they are? I don't care for that you know It's like fine. Here's another word How are ya? Fine Bullshit Nobody's fine Yeah, Tina is smiling I know.

50:33 We have lots of conversations about the word fine. I call it the F-word Before, I'd heard this Carlin skit. He said, Fine? That's the dreaded f-word It wasn't all that great Oops! Now i said the great word Great Yeah you're that guy I am that guy Before we hit our first break, we have this another fantastic story. I'm not quite sure who's playing it or how or what the deal is other than it just plays so well to the imagination moreover her GQ spread...I didn't even know that this woman had done a spread in GQ! This is the new Russian spy

51:13 What is her name? Martina, Marina. Is this the redhead or is this another one? This is a different one! I mean it's from Central Casting, it couldn't be any better she's another red head Russian... I saw her and I said wow she's following that kind of Russian kinda style but she's kinda pretty when she's young then starts looking like a babushka pretty early. The ankles balloon. And I'm thinking jeez Maria, but it's not the same woman. Okay her name is Maria But if you just do a Bing search on Maria GQ Russian spy And I'm not sure yet how she got in GQ But yeah everything you want in your Russian spy Hot chick fantasy Is there and here's little background because we have spies amongst us baby It's just like the movies

52:09 I'm a representative of Russian Federation. In this video and in a photo shoot for GQ, 29-year old Maria Bettina looks like a Russian spy out of central casting! She came to the US on a student visa in 2016 But the Justice Department alleges she took steps to develop relationships with American politicians in order to... What bothers me about the reporting besides it being typically shit and just so incomplete, if she came in on a student visa in 2016, she should be deported. It sounds like she changed her status or something happened, the reason why she is still here at all

52:47 Otherwise, maybe she's just being held in detention because she was here illegally. You can't come in on a student visa and be working at any capacity and I doubt that you got a student visa for three or four years Those typically go year by year So yeah, I'm looking at pictures of her the other girl is much better look oh, yeah, but she got Deported Yeah. So this is all we got, be happy with it.

53:28 During President Trump's inauguration in 2017, Boutina sent out this photo of herself near the US Capitol. She tried unsuccessfully to arrange a meeting between President Trump and Vladimir Putin. Maria is I believe the tip of the iceberg Seattle's Navid Jamali knows all about spying In the same way that one would say someone enters the mob. I was eventually a made man." He provided information to the GRU, the Russian intelligence organization recently indicted by special counsel Bob Mueller. The Russians believe that was legitimate asset that i was trustee trustworthy of being given directives to collect intelligence for them and I was now within their network. Jamali was actually at double agent working for the FBI counterintelligence division

54:16 Were you being paid by the Russians for this information? What I said to the Russians is, I just want money. So the short answer Dave is that yeah they were paying me and what I did with that money was take it give it to the FBI who would then give me this same exact amount in cash back And I think this little nugget here's the entire reason for the report as the signal now is hey Russia It doesn't matter who you try to buy because we'll just match your offer What? Hold on a second. Let's go back to what he said- They're laundering money, the FBI! That's what it sounds like... Yeah But he took.. He says he took the money to the FBI and they gave him cashback. Yeah What was the form of money that Russians were paying in pigs?! Bitcoin I don't know It does- I think its irrelevant. Pretty big Its irrelevant. I'm sure wasn't a check from the GRU. What's happening is there

55:15 It's the same process as money laundering, but I think it is also a message. Like eh? You know... Yeah no, I get the message part of it, I just don't get his explanation What he's telling me doesn't make any sense at all, but okay. ...intelligence for them and I was now within their network Jamali was actually a double agent working for the FBI counter-intelligence division Were you being paid by the Russians for this information? What I said to the Russians is that I just want money So the short answer Dave is that yeah, they were paying me. And what I did with that money was take it give it to the FBI who would then give me this same exact amount in cash back Yeah so it sounds like it was an online transaction and then he got cash

55:59 What a gig. So I'm happy to say that not only were we able to beat the Russians, but they were actually funding our efforts against them Seattle is not immune to Russian espionage FBI investigators tell me they kept a close watch on the now evicted Russian diplomats working at The Consulate in Madison Park and as we first reported two years ago The Russians have been attempting to infiltrate some of our biggest employers including Boeing Amazon and Microsoft Whatever they can do to gain an advantage, it happens every single day. Corporate espionage? It's happening yes. As Maria Bettino works her way through our justice system there are more alleged spies behind her including some keeping a close watch on the Pacific Northwest I know there are even though the consulate here has been closed

56:49 I have no doubt that there was a network that supported that intelligence collection efforts, that relied on non-uniformed, non diplomatic cover personnel. And i very much believe that network would stay in place here. Yeah! Good old Seattle Filled with ruskies hot ones hot ones hot russians. She's really not hot, but she knows how to carry herself and And she was sleeping with people Like for information you know some woman wants to go out and start sleeping with people just randomly spy It's gotta be a spy I think she get a little probably meet a few people Yeah

57:33 You know, what's her name? She's sleeping with everybody. She's sleeping with everybody?! What's her phone number?" Then let me see... Oh yes! Browder now has to defend his reputation after Vladimir Putin. He has a reputation? I guess he's got something to defend and when you need to go defend your reputation as a right winger where do you go? To the money, honey. You go to Maria Bartiromo or in this case Marada-Maria would you blow me? Tell us about that because just to briefly go through your story at one point you were the lead with one of the leading investors in Russia. You owned a lot of Russian companies Russian stocks and your Hermitage Capital Fund. You were living between Moscow and London. You were traveling back and forth all the time when you became aware of corruption going on

58:25 oligarchs stealing money from Russian. What? There's corruption going on, what am I doing here in Russia right after the Soviet Union collapsed?! I don't understand! Companies you want to... Go ahead It's so stupid i mean you don't even go to russia for the first time without being told without images, reams of information about the corruption in Russia. Where not to go for the fall of communism and it got worse after he's all of a sudden out of the blue is what? He was a legitimate businessman doing business doing legitimate business in Russia way this is a bull crap story well Maria Bada Roma where of corruption going on

59:09 oligarchs stealing money from Russian companies. You wanted it stopped, you started to become more of an active investor calling out this and then what happened Bill? Well, so after exposing corruption in these big companies like Gazprom Putin expelled me from the country declared me a threat to national security. The police then raided my offices in Moscow seized all of my documents I had a young lawyer named Sergei Magnitsky start to investigate and he figured out that they seized those documents to steal 230 million dollars of taxes that we paid to the Russian government He exposed it. He was then arrested by some of the people he exposed in pretrial detention tortured for 358 days and then killed at the age of 37 in a Russian prison on November 16th 2009 Wow, and since I put aside everything else I'm doing not a mission to get justice for Sergei Magnitsky which has good justice for Sergei you know this guy is

1:00:10 You know, he needs to just stop bleating because anybody who renounces their citizenship doesn't deserve any protection. Wouldn't you say? Yes and he renounced his American citizenship which is suspect except for one reason which some people will do taxes yeah although some people have done it for political reasons few very few but I know one But it happens. But this guy just seems smarmy. I have one more clip here. This is a very serious matter. Now the charges that he levels against you, which were all debunked we should say but he says you avoided taxes in Russia and in the US and that you gave hundreds of millions of dollars to Hillary Clinton your reaction? Your reaction!

1:01:06 Well, what kind of question is that your reaction? That's the let us a Larry King method. Well, I've never studied Larry King. Larry King has never said that he says stuff like your response. Yeah, it does. But you to maybe a caller. Okay, well, I don't like it. Clinton, your reaction I don't like it either. Well, he's been throwing out charges against me like candy These particular charges have been analyzed by the US Department of Justice By the British government by Interpol by the German government and have all been rejected outright It's just complete nonsense

1:01:47 In terms of the Hillary Clinton campaign contributions, I've given zero. Zero contributions to Hillary Clinton in any campaign. I do not make US campaign contributions and in fact this 400 million dollar number that he threw out they then walked back to four hundred thousand the next day and the real number is zero. You know it's an interesting- Okay well there you go Was it walked back to four hundred thousand? I don't remember that. That's what he said, would have noticed that's what he saying It was walked by where we're never showed up in any of the news reports you think it would have with everybody Against Trump and Putin you'd think it sounds like he's just buffaloing her yeah Maybe one of them somebody in the chat room can do some research for us okay? Troll room yes

1:02:35 troll room sorry last thing I got on the meeting Putin Trump is oil prices just a little over more like a background or slash overview nothing crazy about it but just the price isn't who needs what this is the chairman of pioneer national resources. We're almost at $4 gasoline in some states, when Brent is $80 you're almost at four dollar gasoline that'll have a major impact on the American consumer that's the reason I think the president is trying to intervene bring the price down a little bit let's look at the top line number of the US is that a record nearly 11 million barrels a day your projections are to get to 15 million which is extraordinary passing Russia and Saudi Arabia comfortably what's

1:03:20 It's over the next seven to eight years, maybe ten years. But we'll see a lot of it in the next five years will be at 13 fairly quickly. We're surpassed Russia here shortly in the next three or four months will be 15 sometime in 2026. How about the trade sanctions that we see? The US applying on China and Canada and the European Union do worry as a U.S. chief executive that the American president is being too aggressive Yes, it's affecting us at least two things. One exports we do export as a country to China about 300 thousand barrels of oil per day Now we hope that if they do put tariffs on oil China does We can find another home for that three hundred thousand barrels Secondly the pipe tariffs So we use a lot of pipe in our industry and so its raising the cost of the pipe 20-25 30% by putting tariffs on foreign steel

1:04:15 Do you think we're on the precipice of something more severe though that the tariffs could lead to a severe slowdown in 2019 or not? I don't think so. Trump is a businessman, he's a traitor and I think China and the US will work something out Did he call Trump a traitor?! Yes! He's a traitor Okay... So that could mean Oil prices may go down a little bit. What is it? I don't track it, Is it 70 now? A barrel? It's...I'd have to look..I can look in a second but I'll tell you this they're pumping if we're going to keep just this going this craziness continuing We are gonna pump ourself into a glut and the price of oil is gonna drop through the floor That that's the only end result of what they are doing here That's what sounds like In particular when I didn't think about that Right now the price of crude regular crude not Brent

1:05:11 68 what's Brent? That's a better. What's the price I know it's not on my list 65 okay, so well you wouldn't be 65 would be more yeah But you wouldn't 68 Yeah You wouldn't expect it to go much lower than according this guy says can't go 280 because that's too much And he has a lot of trust that we're gonna work it out with China but I didn't realize that the tariffs would actually impact our oil export I didn't know we exported 300 thousand barrels a day to China and That's a lot. It is quite a lot, so if the tariffs preclude that... ...that could be problematic? Well China understands they need oil for their energy I mean yeah they produce a lot of coal They have a huge supply of coal and they got these other things that they can use They need more energy. They need a lot of energy because there still in growth phase Well whatever the case would be a Dvorakism

1:06:09 Congress is saying, okay they will allow the president's deal with ZTE Corp to remain in place. No sanctions or adjusted sanctions for ZTE so crisis averted on one hand I think Trump had to show if you know according to my thesis which is that he needed to help Xi keep ZTE alive because it would possibly trigger a domino effect in the Chinese economy. I could be wrong Or, you believe what everyone else says that it's to get Ivanka's trademarks passed in China and to build Trump Tower in Beijing or whatever. Yeah, he can do that without his bull crap. He could do that anytime. It's not... You'd think! But it's not. And Ivanka can, she's not like she's starving to death.

1:07:02 I'm just saying that is what people cite as the reason. Yeah, the Democrats. Yes Adam Schiff in particular. Adam Schiff yeah there you go there's a guy... But that's good news because you'd think that okay if Trump-I'm just playing my thesis if Trump said all right I'll fix that and he fixed it and how we did that? I don't know that was some real backroom shit because there were bills everyone wanted to slap him down over that so someone went out with a message and said listen we really got to do this Now we need the... The quid pro quo. What are we gonna get back? I don't know, it'll be something interesting And with that! I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Cee! Where the C stands for cultural freedom at Dvorak In the morning to you too Mr Adam Curry Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water! And all the dames and knights out there And in the morning to Troll Room

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1:15:52 Well, we're most definitely being attacked for being attacked on Twitter or being a twat at whack We're being it's wax is what. We are that's whacked yeah by ducks but docks will be the two act it's They're gonna figure out something eventually But you know they try to go after our advertisers which we don't have we seem pretty bulletproof but It's uh...it certainly slows down the day If your Twitter feed because you know, that's one thing that Twitter is not good at I'd like to just mute a whole conversation. Can you do that? No, you just keep muting the individual because they put locking them as better stick or right but they'll put 17 people on and then You know, you're looking your feet ain't getting anything out of order And it's just all hate and horrible things like what and I blocked I did what you told me to do The other day I blocked the guy reported him for harassing

1:16:43 And Twitter sent me back a note and said, no we checked it but it's not really harassing. But then you do it again! You keep doing it... But its the same guy that you- and I wrote the same note It was like zero followers, he is following no one, just harassing, you block him and then he starts a new account. They sent me another note saying nah, I don't think so Well at least get notes back, I don't Well, I see him getting bumped. He's getting bumped he gets kicked off and then it comes on with a new account Just like you said he's got no followers And he says I mean the thing is he had no follows that means nobody unless somebody stupidly retweets them right? Nobody will ever see his message and you just block him again Yeah But a lot of people just go to Twitter go to add up at Adam Curry and just look and see what everything's on my timeline those guys do show Up people do that You know

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1:22:03 Okay, and this is the whoopee Goldberg event I'm glad somehow. I knew you would clip it and I thought to myself everybody's seen this That's like yeah, I didn't want to bring it up But I'm sure you have a reason to bring it up Because there's been a bunch of rumors that she is not going to show up on Monday, she is going to voluntarily quit the show and I'm thinking woof over this. Let me play the clip but you can't hear because they are talking over each other. I guess whoopie says cusses her out and tells her get off the show. Judge Janine promoting her book because I have seen this segment and at certain point

1:22:43 talks to one of the other women about Trump derangement syndrome and Beckins towards whoopee and will be said did you just point at me? Yeah, yes. Here's the end of that little back-and-forth so we have a little context seen anything like this I've never seen anybody whip up such hate I've never seen anybody be so dismissive And clearly you don't watch the show, so you don't know that I don't suffer from that. What I suffer from is the inability to figure out how to fix this That's my issue but one of things that you talk about a lot and i'm curious about it Is the deep state

1:23:26 How long has the deep state been there and who's running it? Well, I want to answer your question because you gave me an opening statement which was horrible. It is Donald Trump now talking about all of these people. You know what I think is horrible? Whoopi, you know what's horrible when people who shouldn't be here end up murdering the children of American citizens. What's horrible is we've won sanctuary cities beat the hell out of people. So you saw me do something I very rarely do. I very rarely lose my cool and i'm not proud of it, but I don't like it." Well she went on to say she didn't like being called hysterical which I don't believe Judge Jeanine said. No she never did and Dan Whoopie never apologized so now the rumor is that she's going to be gone Really? And I was thinking... Hold on hold on

1:24:27 The rest of the rumor is that after after that segment Whoopi and judge Janine were backstage, and she was yelling get the f out Get the F out of the building according to Judge Janine whoopee was so mad. She was spitting on her You know what we need win more women running the world because it'll be great fun Yeah, Adam at curry calm now back to this situation I just didn't see that what aired is. What was important not what went on backstage or anything else? I did not see why If she gets kicked off the show, there has to be some reason other than this incident because she's nuts anyway. Well Whoopi can't get kicked off of the show? Sure she could! No man, She is too important for the show. When it comes to this level of mercantile kind of cross promotion... Judge Janine's publisher is The Center Street Press

1:25:29 The Center Street Press is owned by Hachette, who is slowly becoming one of the biggest publishers in the world by buying up everybody including Wenner's operation and Disney's Hyperion. which they just picked up recently, and when these deals go down they're big deals. And there's a lot of you know wink-wink nudge-nudge we're gonna get that should do some promotion will promote you you promote us you rub our back we rub your back in this... Ah yes she was there for the book! Big mistake whoopee! ...and they don't go for this like this is interfering with commerce yeah

1:26:09 Yeah, Whoopi can have her stupid opinions about whatever she thinks is going on. But this is interfering with commerce. You know Judge Jeanine went back to her publisher who booked her there, chewed out somebody at Hachette who chewed out somebody at Disney? We'll see what happens. Yeah I think that's a very good point. So how long has this been the property of the same company? Hyperion, which was a development of Disney. They started the negotiations to buy the company in 2005 I think and so they've been but they've been in bed with each other because Disney needs a publishing company right and they don't I mean cuz they're doing they do a lot of business with publishing companies the Marvell Marvel and Marvel which is the name of a chip company anyway

1:27:09 They don't you know this is like part of the business you do these kinds of things You don't let your your hosts think that they're so important Which is what would be does thinks she's she's so important that she can get away with this? You really have to slap these people down once in a while. Yeah when you get to the commerce level Yes, cuz I'm sure judge Jeanine's book would be it's gonna be a seller Oh yeah, and just let's just say judge Janine. She's 67 It's pretty spry She's very surprised. She's quick-witted, she's very presentable. Yes! Do I need to turn on executive mode? That's when we talk about older women and we say they're very presentable. Yeah she looks like she's in her 40s Wow well you're getting lucky next time she sees ya

1:28:02 A baby gets- Oops, didn't mean to do that. Sorry wrong one Anyway so uh So that's what I think might be going on if anything happens Even though it'll be handled You know Whoopi is gonna voluntarily quit If this is what the rumor is she's gonna voluntarily quit which means she didn't voluntarily quit Right that right, right. Right? So where's this rumor? She's on disclosure sign where she can't disparage the company. Where is this rumor showing up and wherever you heard about disparagement agreement it's called You know those are but where is the rumor showed up that she may not be returning on Monday just kind of here in there without their I don't have a exact spot word landed Thank you rich coning John's gonna harm the Sunday time

1:28:50 It wasn't just a jingle man. That's one of the first professional ones we got from Kevin Reeves Yeah, and you have a can actually sing it and you used to and you don't even get the Sunday Times anymore No well I started off with the regular New York Times subscription then I said I can't take it anymore So then I backed it off to The Sunday Times there was another jingle that preceded this when I think And then I gave then again it was piling up too much, and I just said what am I doing this for? Right. Well that was back in the day when, in 2008-2009 and I was reading the Financial Times to you and you were reading The Sunday Times to me because the internet was really still quite fledgling certainly with news and analysis

1:29:36 And now we still don't have any news analysis. I really gotta ask you at this point, what is this strange phenomenon of people pooping in public people who are not even homeless, who just are joggers. Yeah now it's become a thing! What is this? We had it... there's a couple of cases and it seems to be a worldwide phenomenon Now this may be a case... Yes! Thank you San Francisco for leading the way! We're cultural beachhead here I left my boo in San Francisco

1:30:25 But seriously, I mean and they're all getting caught on non CCTV. Yeah, but there's these are joggers Yes, a jogger one is the best woman it just seems like any of those people pooping in supermarkets Is it but is this a thing? It's not a thing that I know of. I wish someone would explain to me if it was, but i think it's part of the Trump syndrome Well well...it could be! We know about the...because you brought that to light There are women in particular who like to poop in their pants That's like a weird turn on for them and I don't even why this is coming up other than its in the news or what passes for news

1:31:10 It's just I don't know and it seems like this is like more women do this than men. You're just beyond me But yeah the woman in the supermarket with her kid, just drop one right on the floor keeps walking There was a woman who wasn't allowed to use the restroom Who got mad and pooped on the floor and started throwing it at the cashier Like a chimp What is going? Yeah what is going on I know, i'm just asking the same thing over and over again. This is like a rhetorical question you keep repeating Yes it is though that's not like... It IS a rhetorical question I keep repeating but could it be? Yeah because your yeah your Could it be? I don't know! I have no idea. I think its just the weirdest thing Somebody thats better than us at doing psychoanalysis

1:31:59 because that's not what we do. It should be able to, we have listeners that could maybe explain this. We have a lot of listeners in counseling and psychologists. We have all kinds of people that listen to the show. Perhaps one of them can brief us? And maybe it's a combination of things. Or in case of the pooper they'd be debriefed! There is thank you so we know there are amygdala issues With there are a lot of amygdala issues But it also turns out that, well although there's conflicting reports some reports say oh if you're conservative your amygdala is more active in your natural beast environment. Your reptilian you where you just want to strike out and strike back and everything is said to you becomes offensive and mean and an attack And of course there are reports that say this only with the liberal brains

1:32:58 What else have we had? What other brain issues, well we know that the smartphones are messing with you with your Pavlovian response mechanisms. Maybe the hippocampus is also being affected and this was a long report on NPR about...and that's how I got into it About Keyhole, the company that Google bought which I think is really the basis still of Google. The actual geo-location, the tracking knowing where everybody is at any moment in time who they're close to...I think that's really their magic secret sauce So they were talking about how that deal came down and where that company came from. But then there was John Hughes, now I think he's not a psychologist he is particle physicist in fact he is one of the Higgs boson guys but he had something very interesting to say about the use GPS on smartphones. So what are the upsides and downsides of GPS technology from your research? From your experience

1:33:59 Well, the upside clearly is you have right in your hands a map of your environment and it often helps. The problem as I see it is the part of our brain which is wired to do voyages or journeys. This kind of thing is something that doesn't get used, and there was a recent study in London of people that navigated through the London streets either using a GPS or using their native abilities and this part of the brain was completely dark for people who use the GPS and was fully lit up by people who were navigating The other aspect which is

1:34:36 fairly important and is interesting as the same part of the brain called the hippocampus is responsible for declarative memory that is to say some memories that we use If you call up the name of your favorite high school teacher, for example That's a declarative memory and it's also involved in how he planned for the future So the idea that we just turn off this important part of our brain is a little scary to me so so you're saying with the GPS we are essentially ignoring these the real world cues that we've always used to get around as humans. We ignore our own internal homing devices, if you will. Dr. Richard McKeon Yes, that seems to be correct and it's borne out by a lot of studies by neuroscientists at this point. The other thing if you think too what it's like using a GPS, you're getting a very narrow window on the world. You're just seeing what the next turn is and you aren't getting this large picture view

1:35:30 And the way our brains operate is to have kind of a large picture view of the environment as if we're on a magic carpet hovering over the environment. We tend to lose this with GPS. Now, I don't think this is very healthy? Well, I have thoughts on this too because I've noticed this and I try to avoid using the GPS as much as I can and what I've done is I reverted back I

1:36:15 Google keeps changing their vendors, I believe. But I can't find out because the press division of Google won't talk to anybody so you ask them that question and you won't get an answer but Google seems to be deteriorating And they all have these different systems but if you go back and say well let's see where is this place we want to go to? Then look at the map for where it is And then you look at the different streets and try to memorize what those streets are. And then, just use the map on your computer to see where you're going and jump in your car and just go! You don't use navigation at all...and I think it's better because when I was using navigation, I noticed that I wasn't having as much fun

1:35:30 And the way our brains operate is to have kind of a large picture view of the environment as if we're on a magic carpet hovering over the environment. We tend to lose this with GPS. Now, I don't think this is very healthy? Well, I have thoughts on this too because I've noticed this and I try to avoid using the GPS as much as I can and what I've done is I reverted back I

1:36:15 Google keeps changing their vendors, I believe. But I can't find out because the press division of Google won't talk to anybody so you ask them that question and you won't get an answer but Google seems to be deteriorating And they all have these different systems but if you go back and say well let's see where is this place we want to go to? Then look at the map for where it is And then you look at the different streets and try to memorize what those streets are. And then, just use the map on your computer to see where you're going and jump in your car and just go! You don't use navigation at all...and I think it's better because when I was using navigation, I noticed that I wasn't having as much fun

1:36:57 California, California is a lot of us not you or a lot of people don't get this and younger kids. I know understand the fun of driving but we used to drive and drive and drive we Drive to LA on the weekends We drive to Mexico we drive to Reno Don Quixote oh We'd be driving every which way that blue the name of Blue Angel or whatever then your place was We'd just do that. We would be driving around and driving around, then you cruise, it was cruising they used to have these cruising things where thousands of kids were going up and down the street so if you got into that kind of thing and we use the map to get around I noticed when i was driving using GPS solely

1:37:39 Which is handy in situations where you really don't care, you just want to get out of there. You want to get to the airport or some funky town somewhere and you want to get out of there. You don't care about having fun driving. But enormously I see people they're going to go to the Safeway and they got their GPS up So this research is very interesting. I think it was mentioned in the clip about the University of London researchers, you know the London taxi drivers they may have changed recently if i recall but they had to have the knowledge they had to be able to know every route in London

1:38:16 And the research showed that London cab drivers who spent three years learning their way around London by spatial methods, which is you see the guys if you've ever been in London. The guys on their little scooters with a map mounted right in front of them part of their hippocampus is larger than the control group of non-cab drivers but most importantly and I'm very happy to hear you say this because the other day we were talking about OTG phones and you said ah I need to have navigation and so I'm glad that you're not overusing it. fMRI scans were taken of older adults Who were GPS and non-GPS users. The subjects accustomed to navigating by spatial means, Were found to have higher activity and a greater volume of gray matter in the hippocampus than those used to relying on GPS These adults also did better on the standardized test in the diagnosis of mild cognitive impairment Which often precedes the onset of Alzheimer's Well

1:39:20 This is, who's this? Neuroscientist Véronique Bobo of McGill University in Montreal Canada. said the results of the study suggest using spatial memory regularly may improve the function of the hippocampus and would help ward off cognitive impairments as we age, but suggested it is wise to restrict GPS use to an aid in finding a way to new destination but turn if off on the way back or when going somewhere that's not new. Building cognitive maps takes time and effort, but with the hippocampus it may be case of use-it or lose-it And Bobo says she does have fears that reducing the use of spatial navigation strategies may lead to earlier onset of Alzheimer's or dementia. Yeah, I find it just would be a specious argument makes no sense because on what diseases are but I will say the hip if the hippocampus campus whatever it's called hippocampus

1:40:15 is affected adversely because of using GPS. I don't know, how much GPS do you have to use for it to become...I mean, you're driving all the time and using GPS all the time? I guess on garage sales or something like that where you- Hey! We got some garage sales gotta bring the smartphone You plug them all into the smartphone then you go driving through the hills from place to place to place Uh, is pro you know, you could probably do it other ways. But that seems like an effective use. Well, generally speaking, I see people with the thing on all the time they're constantly playing going to someplace, you know how to get there? I know how to get to San Francisco and I know my way around San Francisco.

1:40:58 need the GPS. Now once in a while I'll turn it on going to someplace and find alternative routes because it does find some, I found a couple of well there's rerouting... Well I think the traffic information is the most important you can just see it oh there's traffic here and there and that yeah that's kind of useful but I just want to say because you kind of are already gave the reason for diminishing GPS use, you just have more fun. Just like I've been carrying around this Kyocera flip phone and it does everything I need it to do. I've actually found that almost every service has a web browser version that works including Instagram, including even Uber. It can't find you or you can automatically find where you are which is kind of what you want

1:41:48 But most of these services still have perfectly working web interfaces and you just cut out all the tracking stuff so they know what you're doing. Screw that! And so since I've gotten rid of that, I'm having fun watching idiots on their phones all day. Same in traffic! You know you have time to focus, you're looking out the window because you do have to see where you're going and not looking at the screen...and i'm horrible with directions. I'm really lost if I don't have some extra indication but it's much more fun to watch them moronic other drivers and is probably safer

1:42:27 Well, I'll tell you a couple of disadvantages too. I used to develop my own shortcuts. I live in the Bay Area and know how to get around so there was this shortcut that i've been using for probably 10 years. I was always thinking about maybe putting it on YouTube as a way to get on the bay bridge. It's kind of an awkward way but it works like a champ! It bypasses everything. The next thing you know your'e on the bridge So I take it just recently, I take my shortcut. I've got Jay and somebody else in the car and I go the thing is backed up! And she says oh yeah Google has been using this shortcut of yours Right right And I said what? And so that Google has like ruined my shortcut. I'm not very pleased about this Yeah It's a shortcut for a reason Here's a thought

1:43:18 I'm not a guy... GPS has changed lives in so many incredible ways. As an airman, GPS is incredibly important but there's no reason to have the two-way thing going on. So just buy a TomTom what do they cost these days? What does the TomTom cost like 60 70 bucks yeah just get a portable unit and just use it that'll be fine it's the best. They're actually somewhat better. They probably are! TomTom and Magellan you had Magellan for awhile They rip. in some ways they're better, because they've been working on it and they keep improving it. With Google for example is never better because they keep going from one vendor to another and the vendors like sometimes a startup where do then get cheapest I'm almost like the best price kind of model so its always sketchy, it doesn't always work the same. One time when I was in Los Angeles trying to get to the Burbank airport out in Venice

1:44:19 Malibu area. And so I decide, well what should I be taking back? Should I go down to Sunset? Should I do this and should I do that? The thing keeps trying to route me to the 405 and I look at the 405...the 405 is stopped dead from probably somewhere in Nome, Alaska all the way down to Ensenada. There's nothing moving there! To put me on the 405 I would have missed my flight And so I started just going out sunset and I just keep going, turn around go back! Go back. It keeps trying to reverse me back to get to the 405 for some reason. I would think it's only gonna take a couple blocks on that thing because I still have to go east and it keeps telling me to go back, go back, go back for...I kept going waiting for it to stop doing that. It finally stopped and gave up and decided hey I guess you're going on some other route let me reroute you that way

1:45:17 The old Google Maps would never have done that. I remember when they first came out, they never told you to take a U-turn ever! Now they do it constantly like some other vendor. Google's products are just really flaky. That is the boringest story I could tell but... Yeah that was pretty boring But I got a better story for ya now Frank Abagnale He is the guy, the real life person behind the book and theater play and movie Catch Me If You Can. Which when did that come out? Is that the 90s? I'll look it up. Keep talking. Catch me if you can now this was about a kid who at 16 ran away and he traveled around the world posing mainly as an airline pilot any flew for free everywhere in your regular 2002 okay 2002

1:46:18 flew around the world, then later he posed as a lawyer I think a banker all kinds of... About airline pilot. Well that was the number one is what i said number one was airline pilot but he was also cashing you know tens of thousands of dollars worth of phony checks and so eventually caught up to him He went to jail in France and he went to jail I think in Spain And then it was extradited went to jail in states And instead of serving his full term, the FBI came over and said you know you're pretty good at that deception. We'd like to hire you and I think he worked for the FBI for 30 years after that which if...and he did a talk at Google ironically

1:46:57 And it was a very interesting chat about deception and how he did it. It was just, it was a fun talk but at the end...it's about three minutes and he is now out of the agency but he consults for the FBI and CIA mainly on technology. There were two things that he said one that, you know I looked into it and like i don't think this is going to happen sounds like bullcrap to me but you don't know. And the second one was really just the capabilities that they have that we've discussed before law enforcement in this case FBI And I just thought it was fun to hear it from someone who apparently would know. So this guy basically bullshitted his way around the world and then bullshitted his way into the FBI... No, the FBI just came in and said- Well sometimes these things work out that way. And then he became a dude named Ben Yeah! That's pretty much it. So I always used to write to my class

1:47:50 About oh and a professor as well. I'm sorry he gets to teach about it as well What will we investigate five? This is a great country or what this week We know how to play years from now, what will an agent be doing five years from now and unfortunately There's good news in there's bad news first of all the good news We will be doing away with passwords in the next 24 months passwords will leave the world There will be no more passwords There is a new technology called TRUSONA, that's T-R-U S-O-N-A stands for True Persona. It is the company in Scottsdale Arizona that created the technology for the CIA which we have used now for the last few years That technology and I was an advisor on that technology for the CIA so I'm an advisor on bringing it to the commercial world

1:48:40 But it was the ability for an agent to send data back from the field, such as Afghanistan on their iPhone and that Langley would know 100% that is the agent on the other end. To 100% identify the person on the other end of the device That's a level 4 security, so they basically said what if we brought this to level 2 security and we did away with passwords. So immediately when they announced that Microsoft gave them $10 million dollars and said I'm in develop it so Microsoft is going to use it on all their gaming all our access to their computers etc We now have the ability to identify

1:49:22 Who the person is on the other end of that device and when you go to their website at true sona They actually show you how it's done. So they do demo videos there There are three or four minutes long let's show you how it's done so I think that's a good part But I do believe that cyber it up until this okay, so I went to true Sona's website mainly to see if they were public company we could buy some stock and They're not, they're a private company. But this is utter bullcrap! They have a 45 second video and I did go there and I did take a look And their incredible idea is you go to a website it pops up a QR code on the screen You scan that with your iPhone and then it unlocks How has this proved positive?

1:50:12 I mean you could be holding someone's severed head in an iPhone 10. Yup, authenticated! You could be pressing a dead severed finger onto the... ...the uh touch ID. I don't understand how this is foolproof and how passwords are going away? It's completely ridiculous Yeah And i think he was just selling it to Google that's why maybe he was there. I don't know what that was about That was very strange So, you know unless there's something special they have on the iPhone or some specialized app which they did not show just sounds like bullcrap to me. And I like my passwords! I like having something locked in my head that people can't get to. And passwords aren't going away in 24 months this guy is full of shit Totally but listen to what he had to say and although it doesn't mention I believe this timeline of five years that will mention

1:51:05 has to do with the implementation of 5G cellular technology. So we have the ability as you know to basically shut someone's pacemaker off But we have to be within 35 feet of them. We test these device at Quantico all the time so long as I walk up within 35 feet of you, I take control of any bodily device You have on you? So if I want to assassinate you I want to speed it up take it down I can do that. I like this speeded-up or taken down. I hadn't considered that taking control of someones pacemaker

1:51:53 Now you're up there doing a speech at the lectern. Yeah, I wonder about some of these assertions But i believe that in five years you'll be able to do that from 5 000 miles away We have the ability now that we test, that we can chase a car down the interstate. We got to get up within 35 feet of the vehicle. We take over the vehicle. We shut the motor off. We lock the person in the car. We locked the power window so they can't open them and we can turn on their airbag again five years from now you'd be able to do that 5,000 miles away." Now this I think is plausible. I would want right here...I wanted pause and remember one of the No Agenda tips

1:52:37 Because if what he says is true, which is possible with some of the newer cars you can't do with my 25 year old Lexus. No! God no! We have to take you out the old-fashioned way with 50 Cal Yeah yeah something like that But you would have, everyone should have one of these. I noticed this Mimi's got one in the one of the vans we have and it was sitting there and I was just like what do you got this for? She says well you never know when you have- I can't wait to hear what this is! This death defying law enforcement defeating device. Well in this case its one of those little hammers with a little point that has a diamond head on it and you pop

1:53:21 The window. Any window and it shatters into a million pieces Yes, and you can also cut your seatbelt with the handle I believe so, yeah. It's a little emergency thing if you... it supposed to be if you land in the drink and you can't, all of sudden your car is shorted or you can't lower your window together So now this being no agenda tip let me ask you question If law enforcement is after you they lock your car turn off the engine lock the windows deploy the airbag do you think its good idea to bash the window an run away from your vehicle? Do you think this is a good idea? No but these guys are talking about assassinations

1:53:58 Well, that's true. I would say if it was from 3,000 miles away nobody is chasing me. There is somebody playing a prank or they're trying to kill me or harass me. Maybe we need...I want that little hammer! Maybe we need No Agenda emergency hammers? They are available go buy one at the hardware store. No Agenda branded! Branded! We've already decided not to start branding stuff. with a whistle on the other end. Well, you need to and a light so yes our electrical grid used as a terrorist tool the ability to shut down an entire system shut down an entire banking system those are all the things that unfortunately we'll be dealing with in the next

1:54:42 four or five years as cyber starts to make that turn. And it's not like Professor Ted predicted that or anything... The very black side of cyber, not just about stealing money information and data Today what we have is we develop things so we say to you here's a device put in your kitchen and then you can talk to it until I ask what the weather is What's on TV tonight? All of that but I could easily reverse that and listen everything you say in your house There are so many weaknesses in your home. Your security cameras or access points, your remote control on your TV, your Samsung television, your refrigerator that tells you how much milk is in it... My thing is I really don't need my refrigerator to talk to my toaster. He's imagining there's a house that uses these devices nobody does!

1:55:29 Just listen to what he says though, you stepped on him making your point. You can talk to it and tell it what the weather is, whats on TV tonight all of that I could easily reverse that and listen everything you say in your house there are so many weaknesses in your home Your security cameras or access points, your remote control On your tv, your samsung television, your refrigerator that tells how much milk is in My thing is I really don't need my refrigerator to talk to my toaster. They've gotten along for a long time without ever having a conversation, but what happens is we develop something We get real excited about where I get this to the marketplace and sure enough. We never look at the negative side

1:56:11 All I try to say to a technology company, yeah this is great. Now can you take a little time to just say how would someone use this technology in the negative self-serving way so that we build the block to that before we ever give it to the public to use it? We'd save a lot of problems." So it's kind of interesting. I think on one hand he's advocating for all, you know shepherding in passwordless seamless technology on the other hand he's clearly aware that 5g is going to give us all these capabilities I think that's where he gets the The refrigerator toaster thing which you know they do exist John these internet of things there are toasters That you have to click ok for the EULA the first time you turn it on in order to use it You know anyone who has one of these toasters? On Twitter yeah, but not personally no

1:57:01 No, no that the toaster is a bad example because what really happened is people started using their talking tubes to control their music system and lights as pretty end and Thermostat that's pretty much it. The smart home is done but all those are horrible horrible spy devices. No doubt I don't think that we've beaten this to death enough did this guy said really not giving us any new information I would say if you, I thought that he was going to talk about the dangers of 5G as a technology in general. The frequencies of 5g the fact that you have to have those things everywhere... I'm reading this firefighters that the firefighter union has blocked firehouses from having 5g sites on them because they did some tests and firefighters were feeling

1:57:52 Downs woozy and that it's gonna cost tonight is it's got this 5g from what I can tell so far And even though I haven't really looked into it to the extent. I should if I want to pontificate about it But I haven't heard anything good about the technology per se oh yeah You get more bandwidth, and it's great for the Internet of Things some summary no It's great for more tracking And it's probably fantastic for tracking. And you can always find the person's pacemaker Yeah, that's the idea well It also I got another money maker then you know there's this cloth Faraday cloth that you can use your bike suits and shirts yeah made out of this What are gonna do for your head

1:58:44 Well, the pacemaker's not going to... I mean you want to protect the pacemaker. Oh yeah okay yes all right For your head you're gonna have to wear aluminum foil So you wear the Faraday suit with tinfoil wrap Yeah great And then you have your little no agenda hammer on one hand if you slap it down it goes STOP the hammering and if you blow on the whistle I mean we got some great products lined up for the fall season mm-hmm just like Nutrisystem who have done exactly what you'd expect them to do

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2:11:17 Real news gossip. Okay, well kind of gossipy play this look at this I'm sure this is this was not played on the national news as a local story Kind of it's not really a local story but was played locally Trump jr.. Ah, yeah Yes, I knew this. Well tonight Fox Network talk show host who has been dating Donald Trump Jr Is leaving the network and plans to stump four Republican congressional candidates Kimberly Guilfoyle was once married to Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom back when he was mayor of San Francisco Lately, she's been co-hosting The Five on Fox News and dating Donald Trump Jr. after he separated from his wife According to CNN, Guilfoyle is likely to join a nonprofit called America First Policies which supports the president Yeah I've been... There goes the legs! No more legs on the TVs

2:12:15 Yeah, she was all legs. I mean she would just there for legs throwing off her legs Well, I like Kimberly. I'd lie it didn't and I think she's interesting She's definitely interesting to watch him a good balance with the gut felt on that show when I see it But you know I was looking at Donald Trump jr.. He's got four kids They're all under eight. I think under eight years old yeah It's gonna be an interest its tough relationship Well kind of nightmarish Yeah, I just and she's given. She was not as though they haven't got the money to hire ten nannies now You understand what? I'm saying it's not its that's it's not about the nannies It's just there's a lot he comes with a lot of baggage does she have kids she has empty kids so she I Have no idea. I don't think so well. I hope it works out for him uh I Don't think it's a very smart career move

2:13:14 Well, you know maybe she fell in love with the guy. Oh sure but you don't have to be a charming character You have no idea! Yeah I know it doesn't uh... I'm as baffled as you are but it's just like who knows? There may be more to this story we're not ever given any kind of real information so who knows? She could be MKUltra Could be I have a good little backstory on the plastic straw ban which kind of feeds into a clip you played on the last show. Back in 2015, a video went viral it was shot by marine biologists from Texas A&M University It showed researchers trying to remove a plastic straw stuck

2:14:02 up a sea turtle's nose. How could that have possibly got lodged so firmly in the nostril? That video helped raise awareness about all the plastics harming marine life and plastic straws became a prime target for elimination because, well many of us don't really need them. So companies have started pledging to take them away and some US cities have already banned them like Malibu and Miami Beach

2:14:46 But for some people with disabilities, straws are necessary. Sean Bickley is a disability rights advocate in Seattle. He says the invention of plastic straws in the mid-20th century dramatically improved the quality of life for some people like those with poor control of muscles used to swallow. In some cases, Bickley says... They aspirated liquid as it was developed ammonia and died There are reusable straws options out there but Bickley and others say they don't work for everyone. Paper straws also have problems.

2:15:30 isn't as flexible as real plastic. In fact, Seattle wrote this kind of waiver into its ban on plastic straws which went into effect this month. But Bickley says some of the city's restaurants don't seem to be aware of the exemption I called a bunch of restaurants who were dropped in and asked if they had plastic straws for allergies or accommodation He says they all told him no How is this different than my clip from last show? We had the turtle back up

2:16:11 Okay, and I and as I said it's just like your clip. I just feel that we need to put a halt to this idiocy What the hell are we thinking? This is real now It's just gone too far this one turtle had a straw up his nose and everyone lost their shit over it We need to ban turtles from putting straws in their nose where that would make more sense Is this stupid stupid movement of Well, it's gotten worse. We're using more plastic people who actually... Straws are handy! It's gotten worse the I don't really have a problem with going to paper but they because I used to use paper when i was a kid now but what's gotten worse is now especially around here they've decided they're gonna take a hard look at toothbrushes. Toothbrushes? Yeah, yeah their plastic. Oh we need

2:17:08 Remember I tried to create a new meme with the swizzle stick and you said that the train has left the station? Now we can do the turtle with... maybe shouldn't use a turtle. Turtle with a toothbrush up its butt! We gotta have some, no it's gotta be really nasty. I like maybe fish with uh..with a toothbrush out of his eye or sticking- I don't want to gross people out as bad enough at the turtle Okay okay how about sticking out of his gill Let's launch, let's see if we can do it. Let's see if we can get plastic toothbrushes banned Come on! We got great artists Do something Okay artists you're on your own Go for it Plastic toothbrush is evil Evil evil evil We need to call them out We need to call out these companies By the way what replaces a plastic toothbrush? That's the problem I know what replaces the straw The no agenda electric toothbrush It's made of plastic Yeah I'm so tired of this

2:18:10 It's just well, I guess it kind of plays into this then. I'm sure you heard this report. A minor league baseball team is playing on the stereotypes of millennials in an attempt to draw more young people to a game this weekend Offering what the Montgomery Biscuits identify as Millennials favorite things ranging from avocados to selfie stations, a section for napping and don't forget the participation ribbons. 80% of the people in our front office are millennials myself included and we're just having some fun with some of the cliches that people point out about Millennials. The very crowd it's seeking its upsetting

2:18:48 setting, igniting an eruption of backlash on social media. For every angry comment another appears to fire back in defense One person tweeting, Bravo biscuits! You know millennials won't dig in unless it's gluten free. The team itself is made up of millennials none of whom are even remotely offended by the theme night I don't think they meant anything sour by it or to you know sort of cast a negative light on the next generation at all. I think they're trying to make light of it if its insensitive then

2:19:33 Maybe they should just have thicker skin Earlier this year the Lexington legends faced similar criticism for their millennial night before reporting wait before I play the rest of the clip first of all, I love that the Millennial reports on the millennial story and she actually says gluten and What did tea do to everybody? The T is an important letter. Putin, gluten, Putin, gluten, Putin, gluten, layer... To me this was very telling, this clip. Not so much as just funny because I think it's a very funny idea like the humor of it that's American humor we're very good at it what I saw with this report is that you'll hear in a moment and not only did not affect people who went it actually brought more people to the event but that the outrage sorry

2:20:31 Say this was the idea. Oh, yeah well you'll hear exactly that because of course it was a PR stunt I mean is obviously at PR stunt But the What I noticed is that the outrage? Was all on Twitter now They were just showing all the tweets and people just uh angry yelling at each other but then in real life It really wasn't that big a deal And of course these bombs, these little nuggets are launched by PR companies into the machine and then it bubbles up very quickly. I think the job of most journos these days is just trolling on Twitter because all i really ever see is blue check marks saying hey can I use that picture? Hey can you contact me? Hey anybody! Do you know about this? Oh please DM me so we can talk about this. You know what I mean? It's like they seem to just be looking for stories on Twitter

2:21:24 Well, I find it as of a few years back when I started bitching about the fact and well I think we had some segments on it where they won't even get quotes. They just quote people's Twitter accounts Oh yeah well exactly they did take pictures And he said on Twitter and then Trump has made it worse by institutionalizing it Yes It's become...the reporting is just reading the tweets you're right Which is probably why we backed off from it. So the outrage, and you're seeing this happen in everything and the mainstream is... I mean you can see the flow, its very direct

2:21:59 Someone starts a shitstorm, it's online. You have to do it on Twitter that's the place Facebag doesn't work for this you got to do on Twitter It hits trending the journals go look at it and then they make that their news report because is basically free content! You've got everything you want if it's written for you just read out the tweets The outrage there maybe just do a stand-up drop your T's and you're good to go you gotta beautiful report which was funny Beautiful. But all this outrage lives online and I think people could really improve their health by just tuning out a little bit. Tuning out, dropping out, taking acid. Yeah tune out a little bit

2:22:45 I have a clip that's... Let me just play the last bit of this. You can hear it. Earlier this year, the Lexington Legends faced similar criticism for their Millennial Night before reporting increased attendance at the game. From a PR professional perspective they're kind of accomplishing what all of us want to accomplish and that is people talking about your organization not only here locally but i mean it's got a lot of reach outside of our own community outside of our state as well There you go. That's what you want, and you want people talking about ya! It proves that the mainstream is nothing but advertising for everything even the stories are advertising Well here's a good one coming up this is just a quick one clip We all are familiar with our Silicon Valley culture and fine operations like Kleiner Perkins Yes Hashtag Me Too

2:23:40 Red runway if you don't think there's gonna be some humor coming down the road play the Ellen Powell clip tonight the story of a Bay Area tech executive who some see as a pioneer of the me too movement is Coming to the small screen Netflix and Shonda Rhimes have bopped the rise to Ellen Powell's memoir. It tells the story of her failed gender discrimination suit against venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins back in 2012, the lawsuit put a spotlight on sexual misconduct in Silicon Valley. Oh God don't you think this is gonna be a laugh riot? I would have expected that to be one of the first Obama productions honestly

2:24:20 That would have been perfect. Now, did you hear that clip? I keep hearing her saying Spencer Capital instead of Venture Capital. Oh, I'd have to listen to it again. The Facebook CEO... Oops! That's my clip. Hold on Ellen Powell. Yeah, let me try it again tonight the story of a Bay Area tech executive who some see as a pioneer of the Me Too movement is coming to the small screen Netflix and Shonda Rhimes have bought the rights to Ellen Powell's memoir It tells the story of her failed gender discrimination suit against venture capital firm Kleiner Sounds like Fincher No, no she's not pronouncing it correctly She will be fired

2:25:06 Another local story, which is kind of funny. Is this hitman website? Have you heard this story? No called his website rent a hit man calm But this Bay Area man never thought his clever marketing idea would attract people trying to hire contract killers. Good evening, I'm Elizabeth Cook and I'm Tim Bassey the KPIX 5's Katie Nielsen with a wild story of how an IT guy became an unlikely crime fighter Katie? Ken Bob Innes says his website has broken up almost 100 murder for hire plots And even though he doesn't make any money off of it It's now his personal mission to help save lives

2:25:45 Why did he put it up in the first place? It's a dude named Ben and he was a hit man as a consultant. Oh gosh But the idiots that go to this site and now he's actually play part two, and you'll hear that he's actually changed. He rejiggered this site so it's actually about hiring a hitman. He says kill my mom and my dad, my sister and my brother. Bob Ennis is reading an email he got yesterday morning from a 14 year old boy in Alaska. An email submitted through his website rentahitman.com So this is the website?

2:26:23 But it's not what you think. We decided we wanted to start a company doing risk analysis, intrusion detection white hat hacking That's where the name Rent-A-Hitman came from back in 2005 and the website created right here at his desk in the kitchen of his Novato home I swear that happens Instead of getting emails for IT services people were literally asking for a hit man The emails threw me for a loop It was absolutely Not expected. Bob decided to run with it. Shortly after receiving those emails that I had decided to basically transform the web page Now, it's almost a parody site complete with an intake form Targets name targets email address where services are requested Bob gets requests for hitman services at least a couple of times each week I need her taken care of because she won't leave

2:27:16 And this report goes on forever, but it's like how dumb is the public? Oh Yeah. Yeah pretty dumb Pretty dumb and I want you to look out for the story in in your area And I'm surprised he didn't have anything on it Berkeley high graduate pleads guilty to trying to help terrorists But his defense is it was a sting and lo and behold this 23 year old punk kid basically It got wrapped up in what we used to call the six-week cycle. FBI, you know saw him trolling and what he was doing is he was creating fake social media accounts

2:28:01 for people he believed were Islamic State supporters and then you know how the FBI is they get in touch with the guy and they kind of jack him all up. He's like oh yeah let's do something cool, and then the prosecutors... Yeah he didn't want to do anything it's like I don't want it I don't want to do anything right and said no come on we're gonna give your credit card will go buy the chemicals to blow something up And so here's the statement from his lawyer. This is really a case about what the appropriate sentence should be Here is a young guy who was immature said some stupid things online The FBI sent out their best people to try to get a sting operation going So it'd be nice if someone could actually get that out in the open because it's it's really they're doing good I mean, this is not like this Yeah It's law enforcement But this is not how you go about dealing with this situation You tell me get ahold of this kid just shake him up and you say listen you moron What the hell are you doing?

2:28:59 Yeah, so I'm glad you rack up their numbers another terrorist caught. That's right keep the budget going boys everything is good Yes, or let no I don't have that story and I'm sorry I don't We do, I do have this one though about the Vaxxers. There's a vac- you want to hear a little propaganda? Like propaganda by our local news? Sure sure! Here is our Vaxxer story This morning we're exploring a report from medical professionals who are calling attention to what they say is a dangerous increase in the number of parents who are using medical waivers to avoid vaccinating their children Immunization rates have increased from 93% to 95%, since California adopted new child vaccination laws

2:29:41 a couple of years ago. Those laws say that all children must be immunized before attending school, however a new study finds the number of kindergartners in California with a vaccine exemption from a doctor has quadrupled since that law took effect. All right our question today is this do you think children should be required to be vaccinated to attend public school? Right now 89 percent of you say yes 11% say no. A lot of comments out there on social media, Sal what do you have? I have from C Quinn it says unvaccinated kids place other kids and adults at risk not just at school but in any public area others with chronic medical conditions are also unnecessarily placed at risk. Along those lines Elijah tweeted me this saying you live in the Bay Area where medical science and technology thrives why is this even a question for

2:30:28 Furthermore, those that don't think children should be vaccinated need to take an intro science course as to why vaccinations are important. And Chris also chimed in saying of course and it's not just our kids either it is all the kids its just common sense to me. Thank you for all your responses! You can reach us on Twitter about anything make sure to use that hashtag Yeah, you know I'm starting to think illegal immigration is the way to go because our kids are gonna die here. I mean they got their amygdalas messed up, the hippocampus is all screwed up from GPS usage, they're jacked with all kinds of vaccines... This is not good! Jacked up with vaccines. Well they are! Yeah I still don't, I've never understood if you know if your kid is vaccinated what are you worried about? You know the funny thing is about this... Is that can get it if you're vaccinated right?! The funny thing as the story's premise was that vaccination rates has increased from 93% to 95%. What is the point of this story

2:31:29 Yeah, probably Gardasil. Did they throw in an HPV anywhere? No they never did But it's you know, it's you don't have to necessarily I got one last clip, you know There's not a lot of showing on the m5m about the free Tommy movement which has gotten pretty big in the UK there's a lot of people protesting want this guy out of jail or at least In a safer jail than where he is right now. Tommy Robinson as we're talking about and The BBC is seen as the enemy of the people in the UK's. Before you play this story, this is a very... You want to give a little background on this because I don't think everybody knows about it?

2:32:12 And I also want to say this is a very strange story. This guy was essentially dragged off the streets, arrested without a trial and thrown in jail when they threw the key away. No he had a trial. He had a trial. Very quick one. Yeah it was a trial you're guilty. Well, he was but it's all on technicalities. This guy is a troublemaker because he's exposing the grooming and raping that has been going on in the north of England for decades really and it's seen as anti-Muslim The biggest perpetrators of the crimes are Pakistanis so yeah they're Muslim

2:32:53 But it's really just about what's happening and for some reason either through embarrassment or because of embarrassment or maybe they're complicit the elites and the lawmakers Just don't want anyone to hear about it BBC is effectively just stifled the stories Robinson, whose history I looked into which takes a lot of watching YouTube interviews started the ADL which is seen as Nazis Hitler KKK just name it whatever you want British KKK And his story is, hey man this stuff going on here nobody cares. And there's plenty of victims. Victims who've spoken. There are just tons of victims. It's a very screwball story and this to me the way they grabbed him and tried him... I'm sorry the EDF not the ADL. The EDF English Defense. Yeah that's right yeah. EDL! That's what it is. It looks a lot more like an extraction than it does anything else to me. Interesting huh?

2:33:56 Well, he's been thrown in jail before and that was no picnic and it was not an extraction. Yeah well we don't know that he's... We don't even know he's in jail because they won't let anyone see him including his lawyers But Sir Brian of London I think has spoken to him on the phone He's pretty close to them And I'm pretty sure he is really in jail Okay so the main problem The reason why he's in jail Is because as a reporter for I think The Rebels in the Canadian outfit. He was reporting from in front of the courthouse, I'll just call it that where... It was like a foot behind the line you're not supposed to be reporting from You're not supposed to show so in certain cases you can't show accused at the bottom line is there's a whole bunch of guys who had even been convicted before and he gets thrown in jail for basically highlighting what the BBC won't do

2:34:53 That's the main problem. The BBC doesn't report on it properly and man people are pissed off about it, and I see this free hashtag Free Tommy everywhere not just the UK I see it in the Netherlands as he'd in Germany I see it in the US a lot of people are pissed about it And this is just a very short clip actually just to show you the damage that Is being done two institutions like the BBC as? reporter from Newsnight Who finds a Dutch guy And they both realize they speak Dutch, but they do this very short interview in English. BBC? No thank you. The BBC guy... What?!

2:35:52 What? You just told the BBC to F off, what?! I love that. Yeah see we have to remember there was an edict by the government that these stories were D-lined or denoticed which means nobody can report on them So why is that? No, no. The D-Notice has been withdrawn since then so they can report on it. Yeah they can report on it. Oh okay good yeah It's just...it doesn't matter you know the problem is there's a problem! There's a real problem in the UK and the authorities not dealing with it and this is Tinderbox time people are getting very agitated They got Agita over at all I'm telling ya Well maybe all hell will break loose

2:36:41 Oh, I'm pretty convinced hell's going to break loose somewhere if it's not in Sweden You know maybe it'll be in the UK could be anywhere could be anywhere But hell is and certainly in Europe in the EU's hell is going to break loose They're not The Daily Mail is skewering Jean-Claude Juncker the drunker by the way well been fantastic because the Brits they don't care that just you know like hey we're brexit ing we think We think. Yeah, an explosive new account of Brussels Insider says he heard the EU politician Jean-Claude Juncker is a little too fond of the bottle and Mr. Junker has left his ambitious and unelected chief civil servant this is The Problem Guy Martin Selmayr dubbed The Monster to run the Commission so there's disarray

2:37:34 Because this is his assistant basically his intern is now running the European Commission While Junker's is just a blathering drunk And why and why is everybody protecting him? This is what I don't understand. Why because they want to protect the experiment Hmm yeah, it's not him there protecting right oh Because first of all, nobody there is elected. This is what Farage kept bitching about and it's just a bunch of self appoint... These guys that appoint each other for different kinds of things and they're kind of running things like if anything's a dictatorship this is it! And we want to you know as the new German Empire and we trying to be peace in Europe once the Germans take over everything. Once the Germans take over? Yes they probably will I got one more clip

2:38:30 It's just kind of a shorty, it's continuing to follow the fallout around Facebag. Mark Zuckerberg did an interview with... another new interview with Recode which I've not seen or heard yet. I don't know if it is video may just be audio. And I think i can deconstruct what his issue is here in the outrage over Holocaust denialism on Facebook. The Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg is facing backlash tonight after making comments that some say support Holocaust deniers, so his comments came during a podcast on the tech site Recode

2:39:11 There's a set of people who deny the Holocaust. I find that deeply offensive, but at the end of the day... I don't believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things different people get wrong either- I don't think they're intentionally getting it wrong Well, the social media site founder says the material should stay on Facebook as long as the posts don't call for harm or violence. The interview immediately caused an uproar. We are troubled by a statement that doesn't identify Holocaust denial as blatant and troubling anti-Semitism

2:39:53 The CEO of the Illinois Holocaust Museum calls the comments wrong and irresponsible. Zuckerberg has since released a statement saying, quote, I personally find holocaust denial deeply offensive and i absolutely didn't intend to defend the intent of people who deny that. So Zuckerberg is not just touching he's pretty much licking the third rail right now this is very very precarious topic So here we have a Jew who is saying you know what I? Just have to allow people to be wrong on my platform and deny the Holocaust And you know there are ways. You know this guy is naive Well, I don't think so but go ahead all right. Thank he is but I think that He abused it. I think which is something I really yeah, I don't like I'd think that's not good

2:40:47 But it appears as if, I think again... Would you like me to pay attention to this now for you? Yeah. I think that's a good idea. Okay. You sound like a bad tech show when you do that. He's naive! Yes totally naive and he can't He couldn't figure a way around, you could get out of these kinds of questions. Well first of all... You can circumvent it! That's not the question that you should be asking me. There are a million ways we discuss some other show all the time. He is inexperienced but- All these tricks he uses them. Let me tell what I think is going on and then you tell how he should have answered. I think what he sees going on... God dangit! Damnit My analysis of this situation

2:41:38 is that Zuckerberg, and this harkens back to the previous clip I played about the outrage being online. It is my belief that Zuckerberg knows the incredible activity he's getting is from a minority group and that would be mainly left-leaning left thinking people And that is less than half of what he has on his platform And if he starts to kick people off with alternative thoughts about the Holocaust, he knows exactly where that's coming from. That is definitely from the extreme right but also from the extreme left. He is afraid for his business. He knows that what will happen next and we're getting on that cusp very quickly

2:42:27 Eventually someone's gonna say, you know what? Here is a Facebook which is only for people who think this way. Come on over here and even if it wasn't half even if its only 30% he doesn't need that aggro so that's why I think he's couching because he knows they will leave He sees the numbers, he has got insight to this There's no other reason...He's a Jew! Just say yeah screw it we can have that That's fake news That fake news has been around for 40 years, no 60 years. He could have said that 80 years Jesus it's a long time since I was a... He could have been he could've said a million different things to get out of that question. What do you think what do you think about my thesis though? Oh your thesis is the following

2:43:19 He looks at the numbers, he sees the potential for disaster even though by my count in insider trading he's already taken out I think three to four hundred million dollars. It's not about him personally but yeah this is his baby you think that he's worried about that and so he's fumbling around trying to save the platform from interlopers? Yeah. Good as theory is any I can't see any other reason. What you're trying to do is explain his stupidity, not being able to handle the question Yes! That's exactly what i'm trying to do Why is he so stupid? Because they can't be stupid He has gotta be smart But this is not...I agree with you it still isn't the way to handle it Very odd It was like Gates was the same way They are both that way They have issues

2:44:15 Alright, I have a couple. I just had the Bernie and AOC for some reason Bernie Sanders goes to Kansas with this woman With AOC? She hasn't been elected yet and she's already He's keeping her close Okay Well yeah, I think she is his protege at this point Bernie likes the dark young ones Well, let's play these two clips and we'll be done. Sanders and New York Democratic candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez they were both in Kansas Friday you stumping for congressional candidate Jim Thompson I want to play a bite for you from that. I am so proud of everyone who is here in this room today because you are carrying the candle of hope for this country

2:45:05 Wait, what did he say? You are too! Oh that's nice. Candidate Jim Thompson I want to play a bite for you from that. I am so proud of everyone who is here in this room today because you are carrying the candle of hope for this country. You are too! Aw sweet we love you AOC Back then, back then the people of Kansas were the tipping point for the future of this nation and today they are again. And we say to Trump instead of showing us your strength by tearing children from their families where was your strength in standing up to Putin and Russia?

2:45:58 Maya, how concerned are establishment Democrats about their position and the way they're positioned right now with the party? And then this rise of sort of these progressive Democrats that people weren't really watching in the lead up. Well there's so much that those quotes were so rich with reaction from on all parts and how they're playing on Capitol Hill in particular Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez she's not making a lot of friends in the Democratic Party on Capitol Hill democratic lawmakers who met with her and who are not very happy that, obviously she defeated one of their own essentially Joe Crowley. But in addition to which she's actively backing and endorsing more liberal candidates in Democratic primaries against sitting members of Congress and that sort of a no-no you know we were talking to several Democratic lawmakers they said well

2:46:53 When she gets to Capitol Hill, she'll realize that things are a little bit different if you don't have friends. I liked her and Bernie teaming up! I think that's very smart for both of them Well when they go on with this analysis which is one of the overnight shows They make it clear that Bernie had a bad time of it And probably some...I started thinking about this Probably some of the reasons that the DNC which was really never discussed Kind of submarine Bernie's campaign is because the Democrats always hated Bernie. They just hate the guy Yeah, he's not a he's not a team player He runs as an independent there's no reason to give him any support actually got no cotton his wardrobe sucks There's a lot of things never comes his hair

2:47:40 It seems as though maybe the thing blown out of proportion, that Bernie supporters were... you know the Democrats were glad to have a bunch of these kids get all worked up and maybe get into the campaign. But they didn't like Bernie personally at all but let's play part two and then we can finish. Senator Sanders I want to ask because i know you've been active recently on this issue and concern you have about Russian election meddling Vladimir Putin was invited to the White House this fall. The Secretary of State says the invitation has not yet been confirmed Do you think it should be withdrawn? Look, the truth is it's hard to comment on anything that Trump says because he could change his mind tomorrow But I will tell you that I was absolutely outraged by his behavior in Helsinki where we really sold the American people out

2:48:32 And it makes me think that either Trump doesn't understand what Russia has done not only to our elections, but to cyber attacks against all parts of our infrastructure. Either he doesn't understand it or perhaps he is being blackmailed by Russia because they may have compromising information about him. Or perhaps also, you have a president who really does have strong authoritarian tendencies and maybe he admires the kind of government that Putin is running in Russia That's on today's Face the Nation, that'll be playing as we speak. It's checking off the old Trump boxes and this is such a contrast to what we heard at the beginning of the show when I brought out the real lefties who are not singing this song at all This is Bernie just playing to the audience So he lost all his original thoughts sadly because you know He had some good thoughts, he had some thoughts that people turned up to That's the original in anything he said And now

2:49:37 Doing stumping with a oh see you Yeah, he's just latching a wagon on that is very pathetic and she can't be his vice presidential candidate or anything like that That's impossible. Just age-wise I'm not you don't know what's going on here to be 35. Don't you? Or more. I forgot what the age is. I think it's 35. It's not her age, she misses a bit. No that's for sure Look all i know is my tip for the M5M Is you better get on billy Get the hag team out and get Bill out of the way so he can do six months of retrospective Because The Republicans are looking at George H Walker Bush

2:50:18 Saying hey, we could have six weeks of retrospection. Oh they're both trying to hold out the one who's gonna die last That's that's it who will die last there you go mark my words Someone's got to go before November only this is only discussed on the no agenda show and no one else would have the guts To bring this up But we're happy to do it so you prepared for the onslaught And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas here in the capital of the drone star state FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the five by nine Cluedio in the common law condo. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley Dvorak dot org slash NA I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday with another edition of The No Agenda Show until then Adios mofos

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2:52:11 I put too many M's Again, nothing No, still nothing Do you live here? Yes. Well maybe you know what a zombie is? One person dies and is buried Seems a certain voodoo priest who will have the power to bring him back to life. Horrible! It's worse than horrible because the zombie has no will of his own, we see them sometimes... Following orders not knowing what they do and not caring. You mean like Democrats? Walking around blindly with dead eyes Like Democrats

2:53:07 It's horrible. It's worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of its own. Like Democrats? It's horrible! Zero collusion and it has had a negative impact upon the relationship, it's ridiculous what is going on. This is utter nonsense but isn't that natural to be sympathetic towards the person who is willing to restore the relationship with our country who wants to work with us I was saying to myself the other day, Russia really helped us. I'm not pro-Russia or pro anybody. I just want to have this country be safe. I don't want nuclear weapons... I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia. Racist! Sexist! Homophobic! Xenophobe! Islamaphobic! You name it. You name it.

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