Topic: Apple Lisa

The ethics of Anthony Scaramucci's "off the record" comments to New Yorker reporter Ryan Lizza are debated, with the conclusion that Scaramucci likely intended for the insults to be published to force Reince Priebus out. This is compared to a 1981 incident at InfoWorld where a "cocksure" consultant incorrectly claimed a leaked drawing of the Apple Lisa was fake. The segment explores how sources often use certainty to mask a lack of actual knowledge.

Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson has transitioned to a role at Apple heading their environmental programs. The hosts discuss her departure from government service and the nature of her new corporate position. This move is contrasted with typical career paths for former officials involving organizations like the World Bank.