Topic: Amanda Gorman

The hosts critique NPR's perceived "diversity hiring" based on the accents of new announcers. They also discuss a controversy in Europe where white translators were dropped from translating poet Amanda Gorman's work in favor of "diverse" writers. Finally, a study from Hungary is cited claiming that people obsessed with celebrities tend to score lower on cognitive tests.

An upcoming interview between Robin Roberts and poet Amanda Gorman is mentioned. The discussion shifts to the advertising industry seeking alternatives to Nielsen ratings after the service lost its seal of approval. The move is framed as a desire for the more aggressive "view" counting metrics used by Silicon Valley tech giants.