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00:00 Webinars. Under attack and at war with Russia's dudes named Boris. And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin, Tejas capital of their own star state in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where they're working on the wires outside my house I'm John C DeVore Yeah so if you disappear all of a sudden we know what's going on

00:39 Yeah, the wires. It looks like they're stringing something new. Hey Jean-Claude how you doing? Okay what's up? Not too much we got this little show we're doing So we have the Miss America pageant We can start with that Oh yeah well you could tease that maybe we shouldn't start with it? Or we could start with Hillary she was on Colbert I guess Yes yes You know...I'm so happy because i got one clip that you don't have And that's all I got from that interview. So let's do that and i'll play my clip at the end How does that sound? Why don't you play your clip at the beginning it makes more sense when it's at the end Not really, at least not to me But let's go with hillary so hillary is on colbert and they're just as like two You know two pigs rolling in mud. They just love each other By the way, I thought it was a boring interview

01:31 It was just boring to me. Did you get anything from it? I'm not going to disagree with that, i do have an ISO of Hillary's fake laugh and play that right away Yeah, that's the one! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...yeah it's so fake it's ridiculous But that's it is very similar to the ones that they compiled to put on the Hillary pin Yes, which you've lost or you have it So

02:14 Let's start with Hillary. I got a Hilary and Colbert, let's get to the basic clip this is the one where The reason for the book, the reason for Colbert show, the reason for bashing Trump and everything in between This is Hill on Colbert Get out the vote Keep everything in the sunlight Pay a lot of attention so when 2018 comes along we can get some Democrats in Question the legitimacy of the election of the president back today My question is, I mean I have these fantasies but my question is seriously. My question is well what then? There is no constitutional mechanism to questioning the election our elections are messy that's right this is just what happened so as I say in the book nobody's talking about contesting the election

03:08 including me. But I do think, no because there is no mechanism. This is someone who...I love the...oh come on! You can't contest it? This is a great audience and so representative of the alternative universe but I do think now because there is no mechanism though this is someone who believes in the Constitution unlike the guy who got the job I think legitimacy is rooted in what comes out of these investigations because If there is evidence of coordination, communication whatever it might be. Then I think millions of Americans are going to say well those raise questions about legitimacy now what do you do with those questions besides ask them? What you do is mobilize politically to express your will and your rejection of that kind of Russian involvement and coordination at the

04:10 the ballot box. I mean, that is where we settle our political differences and that's where it should be. Go out and vote for Democrats. Yeah, that's the message yes I agree not too much to it other than that but apparently the audiences don't seem to understand the simplicity of it And they bitch and moan so we have a so she went off on the North Korea thing she went off on Putin ah and Let's see if I thought I had two Putins on here you got there's two Putins

04:47 I've Putin too long. Too long. Yeah, we'll see is there another one on here? No, I don't think I have another. Let's go with Putin too long what Putin strategy is he really doesn't like democracy He thinks it's an inconvenient messy process and he doesn't like us And he wants when I heard this It was to me This is exactly what people like my uncle Don believe they They truly believe that this is what this guy thinks. And they usually say he was, you know a KGB guy who hated seeing his empire go down and he vowed that he would destroy the evil capitalist Americans It's the same story.

05:30 He doesn't like us and he wants to destabilize our country so doubt about our democracy. I mean these latest revelations where you had Russians pretending to be... She says she lets him destabilize our country, so doubt? To sow, as in sowing seeds. To sow doubt! Yeah to sowing seeds... I can't say that word. Sow, isn't it sow? It's like in between so and so. No no, it's sow. To sow doubt yes

06:08 Which is easily done if you put it on facebag ads. Add Russians pretending to be Americans, so you have fake Americans with fake news and fake stories I need that t-shirt! Fake American That's a great T-Shirt No agenda show Fake American And fake demonstrations...that wasn't just because he was bored and has nothing to do He wants to... Wait a minute What fake demonstrations is she talking about? Okay, here's the This is a we didn't talk about this on the show. But and it never really it came out of a kid kind of comes and goes but during the

06:46 supposed Facebook $100,000 ad campaign. Oh yes they did Facebook events They did a bunch of events that never happened because they were never meant to happen it's just meant to I think by the way this is not a bad idea they said we're having a huge meeting everybody's turning out for this stop Hillary you know yeah convention, you know. And they had a time and date. Stop Hillary meetup is what you mean? Yeah or whatever they called it and it was fake because no one was intended just to make it seem as though stuff was happening But boy man we nailed it that the Facebook ads are becoming a real problem for them this really keeps coming back to... You know the one example that they have of hacking the election

07:36 And that is the Facebook ads. You had a number of them in the newsletter I wouldn't even look at those, they're too busy That would not catch my eye on the page They're not good! At all! It didn't convince me of anything Maybe I could see somebody... Oh yeah? Did you vote for Hillary? Boom! I wasn't affected by Facebook ads because I don't use Facebook But I think it was to just reassure It didn't change anybody's mind. There is no doubt about that in my mind, and they were probably targeting people that were borderline Trump voters or Trump voters to begin with. Whoever it was but you know the thing in the lexicon now I'm not even clipping anymore You hear people say on television when Russia hacked the election and its just accepted That term has now accepted They hacked the election whatever it means

08:32 It's dumb. I think you're right. You can see fake Americans with fake news and fake stories and fake demonstrations that wasn't just because he is bored and has nothing to do, He wants to undermine how we see each other How we respect each other, how we support our institutions in our society so... And the obvious question from Colbert would be well how did they do that? I think that they believe they had a good outing in 2016 and i think they will be back in 2018 and 2020 unless we stop them. Now you mentioned that Putin doesn't like democracy, he doesn't like America

09:20 Part of the speculation is that he specifically doesn't like you. Do you think this was personal on a certain level? I think it was mostly about the role I played as Secretary of State, which he did morph into a grudge against me because...I would say things like You know, the Russian people deserve free and fair elections. They deserve to have a democracy. Questioning legitimacy of his election in 2011? The parliamentary election. Didn't we mess with that particular election? Isn't that the one we had all the NGOs kicked out for? Yeah! We had the NGOs in there, we had protests on the streets, reorganized and all the rest of it... He mentions the elections but he never mentions what her involvement was. Uh, he likes his gig. That's right

10:06 And so our intelligence community and others have said that he did have a personal grudge against me. You know, I don't take it personally. I think it's part of his worldview which is all tied up with his anger, his disappointment in the collapse of the Soviet Union and his feeling that we're his number one rival. He wants to really undermine the European-American alliance and so I see it as you know...I was doing my job. I was honored to do my job to stand up and speak out on behalf of American values and our democracy and partly because i'm a woman

10:50 Yeah, and then she went into that whole thing about the polar bears and he's man spreading I've heard all these stories before it was nothing new. That's what the I never heard it I have to where's them? I do have the man spring thing which is interesting because it's a deconstruction point Where is it? I don't know Oh, I see it. Yes! I got it here. Listen to this carefully and then I'm going to show you one of these little tricks the same kind of trick that CBS pulls the same kinda trick ABC pulls This is a beauty Because...I am woman which does seem to get him a bit agitated And he actually has said that

11:34 Did he ever say anything to you personally that demonstrated his... Well, he demonstrated as I write in the book. You know there's an expression we certainly know it in New York called manspreading And every time I met with him, it would be okay? The whole deal. And so you go to meetings with them one in particular we were in his dacha outside of Moscow and the press comes in and he just berates America about one of the many things that annoys him about us. And then the press leaves and I've got four or five things we're trying to deal with him and Russia on, and I always came to my meetings with him trying to find something that I could actually engage him about so we went through you know the economy and human rights and all these other things that are critically important and he was like

12:32 As President Obama once said, like the bored guy in the back of the room who couldn't care less. Then I said you know... I am really pleased to hear that you care about wildlife conservation and that you are trying to save species in Russia like Siberian tigers and polar bears. Then he came along, then we had an interesting conversation so... I wrestle polar bears! He said come with me, he takes me down the stairs down this corridor into the door All of his security guys are jumping up because we weren't expected. Into this inner sanctum with this huge desk and the biggest map of Russia I think exists, and he started telling me that he's going here to tag polar bears. And then he says to me would your husband like to come? And then I said well you know i'll ask him but if he is busy ill go!

13:33 I've heard that story before from her. Well, here's what I want to talk about with that particular anecdote. She starts off with manspreading and she's going to give us some examples. Then she says they went to the DACA and we looked at the map and there was this thing with polar bears and they invited my husband. She has a bunch of examples of her with him where is the manspreading? Well, she says that he was manspreading when she was sitting there with him. She says yes at the beginning then she said let me give you an example

14:11 And then she's gonna tell this long story, which has nothing to do with anything. No but I think that it was visual in that case where she said he was- I watched it! You know what the problem is? Here's her basic problem If you want to engage a guy like that What does she talk about like uuuuuhhhhhh What was her oh I'll talk to him abou wildlife NO! NOOO! You wanna engage the guy! You gotta have boobs I mean THAT'S what you wanna talk about Well, she says in one of her things that he'd or he's in fact I think it was a neck that he doesn't want to talk about women. He hates women No, she's a woman and that was a problem because she's a woman in power That's what yes where she throws this little ditty in here This is the listen to this listen to carefully listen to this isn't very short. Yeah, I got it I heard this too as clearly as I can I feel like I'm a bit of a you know Paul

15:08 I'm trying to sound the alarm about this. Yeah, I thought that was cute and I was wondering if there was something behind it other than she was being. This is hers like you know somebody wrote this for don't say Paul. I don't want to be another Paul Revere Saint Paula Revere yeah hey I hate to mention this too. There is nobody named Paula Revere that sounded the alarm so you wanna be like her? You know what OK? Do you have one more clip or can I play my clip? Well, I've got two clips actually but I could play... There's her on North Korea. Alright It's kind of interesting and then they had the Clinton won but Russia won But i don't think that is important Let's play her thoughts on North Korea Did you happen to see the president speech at the UN today? I saw parts of it yes What did you make of it? I thought it was very dark Before she even goes into it When I heard her say this

16:06 I thought, wow you're just pulling out the script from the last time he did a speech where and that was a whole meme was this dark it's so dark. I remember it well so she clearly didn't watch the speech Because it wasn't. Does that make any sense to you? No, no. Did you happen to see the president's speech at the UN today? I saw parts of it yes What did what did you make of it? Parts of it clips yeah yeah that's a good point I saw parts of it how hard is it It was dark even though I saw parts of it and good catch John. Parts of it Yes What did you what did you make of it? I thought it was very dark dangerous How about if she actually did not watch like She just gets physically ill from watching him

16:48 But I really think that's going on. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that is true, otherwise she actually got physically ill from watching it would not surprise me and she is lying, she clearly lying when you say oh yeah parts of it, I do that all the time to you yes or no parts of it whatever Not the kind of message that leader of greatest nation in world should be delivering? Not if your are No Borders No Nations group, NO! You are both... You are both required to stand up for the values of what we believe in, democracy and opportunity as a way to demonstrate clearly the United States remains the beacon that we want it to be. While of course when you face dangerous situations like what is happening in North Korea, to make it clear your first approach should always be diplomatic

17:45 What I'd hoped the president would have said was something along the lines of, you know we view this as dangerous to our allies to the region and even to our country. We call on all nations to work with us to try to end the threat posed by- Didn't he do that with not one but two United Nations unanimous resolutions? Wasn't that exactly what he did? I'm not sure, but maybe. man, the old Elton John song. But to say it clearly we will not tolerate any attacks on our friends or ourselves but you should lead with diplomacy you should lead with the commitment of trying to avoid conflict however

18:51 Yeah, so what really struck me about this whole thing. Let's have something to say about this. Well yeah I think you we should mention that what did she do when she was Secretary of State diplomacy wise? When it came to North Korea that's what Colbert follow-up should have been Yeah, if it wasn't a blowjob and instead of an interview. She talks big game about this and that but what did she do when she actually was in office to do something with North Korea? They kicked my uncle Don out is what they did we don't want to talk to that guy stupid idiot What does he know about North Korea He was in and out 20 minutes the thing that bothered me the most And it started before she even came on I could not believe this audience

19:34 I mean, you're already hearing them like just going crazy over stuff. But i felt like we've turned a corner in the alternate universe that may be irreversible when you hear this Oh and this is huge! This is huge This is from his monologue We also just learned that the government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort both before and after the election. This means... Woah! Wire tapping! Wooo! What is happening? People are cheering on wiretapping of citizens. Yeah, more or less illegal wiretapping Forget even legal or illegal they are cheering it on even Colbert's embarrassed about this listen You applaud until they wiretap you yeah I don't understand what he talking about don't the only in wires have evil people huh

20:39 Stupid, stupid slaves. Very sad to hear that. Yeah well I missed that part so you got me on that one. That is pathetic. The opening monologue we're cheering on wiretapping which is just...that's just showing people don't understand they don't know what the Constitution is and don't understand anything anymore. That's because there are specifically Not taught anything in school regarding the Constitution or what this country's about. Yeah, I agree with you there sadly of course Colbert also hosted the Emmy Awards The lowest rated ever well lowest rate but same audience as last time pretty much the same I have to say I watched the whole thing But I didn't mind the whole show it really didn't bother me that much

21:32 I laughed, you know some of the jokes were funny. I was too just blown away by Jane Fonda's new facelift to even consider thinking about what Lily Tomlin was saying Holy crap! She looks 25! Yeah and she doesn't look like Jane Fonda at 25. And she's 86 That's unbelievable. She 86? 86 and what does it is the bangs I know a little bit about plastic surgery see my first wife and she has to have those bangs otherwise it would look like she's really surprised so they have to cover that up a little bit but unbelievable work that was yeah like that was Hollywood to me probably

22:21 Fantastic. And Colbert went kind of with the, I'm going to slam all those celebrities and that always works. It always works when you make fun, you know self-deprecating about Hollywood about yourself and I thought that was reasonable. The reason for the low ratings is not everyone, because no one wants to watch elites rattle their pearls? That's...I don't think that's the problem I think the problem is a good line though. Yeah, the problem is Look who's winning? It's Hulu its Netflix Its Amazon then they throw in it used to be the three networks everybody watched The Three Networks and this too much half of the shows have never seen so who gives a crap I don't care about care about these shows. I've never seen them

23:10 There's too many shows and it's just the same old people, honestly who are mainly in them. And it just doesn't appeal to... Do you think millennials are watching this show? Of course not! They don't care so it's just an outdated concept but I hope they keep doing a lot because I like it. I think its funny. Well, I think have some notes that took- I watched the whole thing too. I couldn't get really any clips from it. One clip there one guy, the black guy comes up says, I think part of reasons why won is because of Trump getting it, but people. Alec Baldwin had I think the line of the night where he said Mr President here's your Emmy Award? I thought that was funny. That was good too. That was very similar to the line nothing wrong with all that. I thought the Colbert is you know got his slams out early yeah so let me see what else we got here late little sketches were lame You know what I liked the most though Here's what bugs

24:10 And this started, I don't know. I think we bitch about this every year and it just gets me In the olden days they'd have a couple of hunks down at the bottom of the stairs to help these women up the stairs. Yes, you're right and now I saw some of the other actors helping people up on stage Yeah so one of the actors I remember specifically going down to help some rather big woman with her long dress and she has to hold it up So she can't really balance herself because she's holding up the dress And that's kind of awkward trying to get up the stairs What is wrong with having a couple of people down there helping people up the stairs? There's no handrail

24:46 Yes, you are now hearing a producer speak ladies and gentlemen. So we're doing the review and I have another gripe John you as a co-executive producer of this show But I believe we need to speak to the wardrobe department What has happened with fashion? where we Show a large amount of chest on women but make sure their breasts look extremely flat almost masculine Did you notice this? No. But if you bet if I would conclude and I might have here's another thing that bugged me what was the idea of having this fake red carpet with fake photographers at the end see, I like that and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why I think I'll tell you why I like it

25:30 Yes, it's fake. But you win typically you win the award well You're all confused your sweaty because just your speech and when you go off you stand up on a riser Where it's really hot backstage where the crappy ass drop behind you with all the vinyls logos It just looks like crap The lighting is crap and those are the photos that always get published now you have those were real photographers taking real pictures It wasn't all just fake. And now you get a nice picture! Sorry, I like that. What is the deal with the black dude DJ doing the voiceovers? That was their idea- In street talk! Half of the time he didn't know what he was talking about They wanted to bring in the millennials in. Hey let's get that cool guy He'll bring the millennials in. I think it's one of those jerk suits... I got a great idea everybody You know what I like most about the Emmys

26:23 is I haven't been really in television for a long time, but I recognize names. You know sometimes you even see a stagehand and my favorite is the dead segment of like hey! I know that guy he's dead yeah I know that guy well my favorite thing about the dead segment you see someone you go and everybody does this That's the sound I thought it was dead years ago Oh man. While we're on celebrities... Let me finish my checklist. I'm sorry you have more, I did not realize. Yes! What is with the queer black girl and this Ansara Indian guy who both won awards? And she takes over the mic and doesn't let him say anything?!

27:08 Both speak tall. Yeah, well hold on That it was weird but that is a nice Azaria who won for his show Which I've watched things if I didn't watch all of the episodes could go tired of it But it was its good show she co-wrote and she's a big part of that show as well And I think because her story in Hollywood, you have to understand where she comes from and now to win an award as a black woman. As a writer this was it was it was a total Hollywood thing And I think he had said before go ahead You just do the award? I don't think he was standing there waiting to speak Well, he looks like an idiot Yeah He did that's up to him That's on him It's on him At the end of at the end of the analysis

28:00 I agree 100% with you. These guys have screwed up once they turned it over to non-traditional broadcasting outlets. If something's on, only on Crackle or something like that and again it gets really good so it gets an award... Who cares? You don't see these shows! The audience for some of these shows is lower than Fox News It's ridiculous. Oh yeah, the quality is good and you're supposed to be giving it out for quality but... I think what it says to me, and because like my favorite shows for this season are the ones that are ending. Like People of Earth for example. Great show it's ending at least in the last episodes next week. What I think you're seeing when you see these awards and I think this hurts... This reminds me of all things I've seen in publishing. You see this happen all time. You are just reminding the public that the networks suck

29:00 Here's the good shows, the good shows are on HBO. The good shows are on Hulu. The good shows are on Amazon. Where are the networks? They're the ones with the big budgets they're the ones with a big audience they're the ones who have everything going for them. But that's not true! See that's not true I think that Netflix-Amazon money is crazy right now It's crazy, and they pay you up front. You know the residuals I don't think that they have did some kind of deal for residuals but these people aren't getting paid on like stupid artists musicians on a per stream basis no no They got to get a huge budget everybody knows someone does it brings in all their buddies everybody gets paid Hallelujah everybody let's do it again Let's go across the street talk to the other guys This is and it's going to come crumbling down

29:50 Eventually, you know look at Netflix. I think they're doing another offering to get some more money They have licensing fees yeah, they got some stuff on that something Yeah So it's anyway but the celebrities I still think it's an indictment of the networks and the poor job They're doing they do have it's not as though. They don't have plenty of money I mean It's not as though there's starving to death But they are doing a very poor job of maintaining their position And I think, and then again you know so that's so everything is now. I mean they might as well just say start the show off saying let's all cut the cable and don't even watch this show! And they don't! Yeah alright on to celebrities in politics always a fun combo um i have a clip explaining who's behind it and what's going on? I presume you've seen the Morgan Freeman we're at war with Russia clip

30:44 Why don't we play it? Not everyone has seen this. This is becoming a problem where, you know, virality is going so fast I pick the hits but I don't have the show soon enough and before you know it everyone's seen it But I think people still would enjoy this two minutes of Morgan Freeman stylistically shot by Rob Reiner We are at war Imagine this movie script A former KGB spy Angry at the collapse of his motherland, sound familiar Hillary? plots a course for revenge. Taking advantage of the chaos he works his way up through the ranks of a post-Soviet Russia and becomes president

31:32 He establishes an authoritarian regime. Then he sets his sights on his sworn enemy, the United States and like the true KGB spy he is or was maybe secretly uses cyber warfare to attack democracies around the world using social media to spread propaganda and false information. He convinces people in democratic societies to distrust their media their political processes, even their neighbors. And he wins. Vladimir Putin is that spy and this is no movie script. We need our president to speak directly to us and tell us the truth. We need him to sit behind a desk in the Oval Office

32:23 And say, my fellow Americans during this past election we came under attack by the Russian government. I've called on Congress and our intelligence community to use every resource available to conduct a thorough investigation to determine exactly how this happened The free world is counting on us for leadership For 241 years Our democracy has been a shining example to the world of what we can all aspire to. And, we owe it to the brave people who have fought and died to protect this great nation and save democracy. We owe it to our future generations to continue the fight."

33:11 You know this join the committee to investigate Russia. Join the fight yeah, he started his phony baloney committee you know to Reiner when when you When you do something like this is Morgan Freeman? You've got major fuck-you money is what you got because this guy does not care But yes indeed This is the Committee to Investigate Russia I'm thinking we may have talked about this a couple weeks ago I have to look into it, but... It's just been floating around the Twitterverse. Well the Committee to Investigate Russia which is investigaterussia.org key players on the advisory board James Clapper Rob Reiner Max Boot I don't know who that is Charles Sykes Is he a radio guy? Charles Sykes? Charles Sykes is an old radio guy who has run out of town

33:59 He was a conservative radio talk show host, I believe in Wisconsin. And he was never Trumper and he just hounded and hounded Trump when the Wisconsin went for Trump. They gave him such crappy... he claims to be retired but I think that he was forced to quit. local conservative radio guys that had some reputation outside of his market, but generally speaking he wasn't a networked guy. Yeah. So Rob Reiner appeared with one of his cohorts not on this list David something or other on Bloomberg and they talked about this and I thought it was very enlightening to hear exactly what's going on and Bloomberg asked the question I was indeed interested in since you cannot find this information on investigaterussia.org

34:42 But what we're trying to do here is, yes we are going to cover all of the various investigations House and Senate and also keep updates on the Mueller investigation. What were trying to do at the Committee to Investigate Russia is give people an overview it's gonna be a kind of compendium not just looking at the day-to-day news and the investigations, but also a history of what the Russians have been doing in former Soviet Union. And Russians have been doing and trying to disrupt our democracy over the years through the Cold War and up till the present. Also, the effects of cyber warfare and the far reaching impacts of cyber warfare so it'll be a comprehensive website that hopefully will give people a complete picture of what has happened to us.

33:59 He was a conservative radio talk show host, I believe in Wisconsin. And he was never Trumper and he just hounded and hounded Trump when the Wisconsin went for Trump. They gave him such crappy... he claims to be retired but I think that he was forced to quit. local conservative radio guys that had some reputation outside of his market, but generally speaking he wasn't a networked guy. Yeah. So Rob Reiner appeared with one of his cohorts not on this list David something or other on Bloomberg and they talked about this and I thought it was very enlightening to hear exactly what's going on and Bloomberg asked the question I was indeed interested in since you cannot find this information on investigaterussia.org

34:42 But what we're trying to do here is, yes we are going to cover all of the various investigations House and Senate and also keep updates on the Mueller investigation. What were trying to do at the Committee to Investigate Russia is give people an overview it's gonna be a kind of compendium not just looking at the day-to-day news and the investigations, but also a history of what the Russians have been doing in former Soviet Union. And Russians have been doing and trying to disrupt our democracy over the years through the Cold War and up till the present. Also, the effects of cyber warfare and the far reaching impacts of cyber warfare so it'll be a comprehensive website that hopefully will give people a complete picture of what has happened to us.

35:33 Tell us David how you guys came together on this and who's funding this exactly? Well we have a number of funders, you know. We start out with a very small amount of money and hopefully as time goes by were going to need alot more to keep going so If you have a few dollars, I'll take whatever you have. Individual donors? Do you have any institutional funding or any funding for many families? No no it's just individuals that are funded and what occurred to me is that we've always seen America come together whenever we've been attacked, whether it's been Pearl Harbor or 9-11. Here we are attacked by a foreign power and we don't come together. We are so divided as a country that I started to reach essentially across the aisle to my Republican friends and people who I respect

36:24 And I found out that they are just as mortified as I am, that we as a country have not come together over being attacked by like I say a foreign enemy power. So David and James Clapper and Max Boot and a number of other people have said yes this is something we need to do. I now have to go back and play the Clinton Russia clip. Okay, I want to play that because it'll make sense It's probably right in line with this To the unusual behavior of the former director of the FBI and the Russians And you have been sounding the alarm about this because

37:06 I believe so strongly that they think they succeeded in messing with our democracy and i just can't abide that. Do you think they succeeded? Yes, I do. To what degree influencing the vote or influencing opinion? Influencing voters and therefore influencing opinion is becoming clearer and clearer Okay. Russia, Russia, Russia! Yeah my goodness they gotta choose is it gonna be Comey's fault? Is it going to be Russia hacking the election? Well they're flexible all they have to do again I keep beating this drum but all that you really keep this thing bubbling until 2018 and then their job is done and of course you keep it bubbling again for another two years and then you try to get Trump voted out

38:03 Yeah, this is nuts and this is doing nothing for what these it's ironic that Rob Reiner a pretty much of a lefty all his life. Hollywood lefty, back in the day when they you know it was largely funded by the Russians especially during the Soviet era and all these front organizations were all over the place. It was like tons of them I mean tons of them and there were everywhere... John its brain damage! Its brain damage! I cannot see it any other way And not like you know like he got a hit with a hammer but yeah The amygdala Yes yes

38:41 There's he you know, this is what we've discussed when the amygdala is enlarged then any even words can become Equal to your brain as a threat to your life. You know it's animalistic It's prehistoric its baked into our it's a part of our DNA reptilian it is raised is the reptilian Reaction and this is what you get is very very disturbing Did you see Maxine waters during her eulogy for Dick Gregory? Uh oh. Now Dick Gregory, do you think he would have liked Trump? Hated Trump? Did he ever talk about Trump I can't remember Yeah he did He's the one who came up with two Trumps theory Oh you're right! That's Dick Gregory You're right But he didn't think much of Trump but he didn't think much of any of them No that's right

39:28 So she's on stage, she's doing her eulogy. And by the way I think Dick Gregory would not like Maxine Waters. I think he would have had a real problem with this! She totally hijacked everyone's amygdala. I wish i could sit with dick because i've got work to do What? I'm cleaning out... She said I wish I could sit- Not on with dick Oh okay. I wish I could sit with dick because I've got work to do. I'm cleaning out the White House We're going to sanitize the White House. We're not gonna take what is happening in this country, haven't you taken enough? And then comes along this person This person who does not respect you This dishonorable human being Who cheats everybody! This dishonorable human being Who will lie at the drop of a hat

40:41 This dishonorable human being who have the alt-right and the KKK and everybody else inside his cabinet. This dishonorable human being who can criticize everybody but Putin in Russia Did he collude with Russia? I bet you Dick Gregory would tell me, yeah he did that. Not only are we going to clean out the White House, We're gonna take back the house that slaves built! And i know even my colleagues get very upset some get afraid when I say impeachment When I get through with Donald Trump

41:33 He's gonna wish he had been impeached. I feel it very deep, I am so offended by him and i love my people so much that I'm not going to put up with it. Im gonna say impeach 45 everyday! Impeach 45 every day! Maxine, the stamp away from the crackpot. Those days are over they called you out on Fox tonight Yeah baby I think that woman is a true benefit to society She is! She's a benefit to our show Hold on let's rock it out with Maxine for a second Thank You Maxine Waters for the content! Maxine

42:35 Yeah, so that is that is also it's I just can't say anything. It's just brain damage who talks like that? I've never heard anything like this not that the president is something ever heard before either kind of even see the evens out everyone's crazy Yes, great Everybody's insane It's fabulous oh my goodness truly is Truly nuts see what else did we have so you know I've been looking around for this for any evidence that there was indeed some wiretapping going on of Manafort. Was it CNN that launched this quote-unquote report? Did they break that news?" I don't know who broke the news, but it's gotten the right wing talk show guys completely bent out of shape and I think with good reason but nobody else is kind of picking up on it which is

43:28 Trump had said that his towers were tapped. You remember that? Yes, yes, yes. Trump always had some sort of inside information about different things and he'd throw it out without any... He didn't care in a tweet And it always turns out to be kind of true in some way, shape or form. Apparently Manafort was tapped from the get-go when he first said hello to Trump and they did it through a criminal complaint which we knew about this because somebody brought it up on one of the shows and we had clips of the guy saying it but it was speculation that this regular courts would not give him a go, but the FISA court said it was okay to tap him. To tap Manafort and anybody talking to them. Right? But how do we know this? I just want to know how do we know this? That's all. The judicial watch is the one who broke it. Okay are they quoting sources? No no they do everything from Freedom of Information Acts requests. They find documents

44:32 Well, I couldn't find as far as I know it was CNN who broke this which was very good It could have been a CNN or brought it up But I didn't follow that closely because I've always assumed that this was what this was going on well be stupid to think it isn't Right now the two us and especially when everyone applauds it. I mean that's given everybody the wrong message No, that's not good. That's the message that's what people believe it's sadder than giving the wrong message This is your typical American and tourist in New York douche like huh? These are the dumb people and there's lots of them hate to say it well wait until you get to the Miss America material geez Okay, one of the worst offenders are just teasing yes

45:20 Miss Texas. Yes, she's rubbing it in So this past week we had a hearing on the hill in the United States of Gitmo Nation about SESTA which is to stop sex trafficking an act to stop sex trafficking Yeah this has been...it was very unusual the way people responded to it Well and I did a deep dive into it And it revolves around section 203 of the Communications Decency Act, which was set in place I believe for all the right reasons. And we can have a little debate about this if it should be there or not and if it should change. In essence there's really only one paragraph that matters that says If you host a service on the internet then you cannot be held liable for what other people or other services post on your service and

46:17 on the one hand enabled tons of stuff that we... it really enabled Google, Facebook all of the YouTube. Of course that's a Google property but enabled all these user generated sites so that you could use very hard to police even with you know without algo is gonna be a break AI please machine learning yeah maybe one day You can still find any kind of porn you want on YouTube, including horrible stuff. You wanna go to Tumblr for horrible stuff? I'm sorry what am i thinking... Yeah Yahoo! So all these companies were built because that was made possible And they figured out early on how to screw the artists, the writers, the composers. They got that with statutory streaming fees which has put writers and composers in the poorhouse effectively. Radio still doesn't pay anything to artists. There's a whole bunch of things that...and there is difference between artist and the writers and the composer of the song

47:14 But they didn't want to be hampered by this. And so what is happening, and this goes to the Backpage story... ...and for sure after Craigslist shut down its personals, Backpage got all of the business for hookers! As it is in the business there's a lot of illegal stuff going on and children are being trafficked who may look like young hookers I'm sure it's not that easy Apparently Backpage was complicit in some of this and knew this was going on, and did nothing to stop it. Oh by the way you also get protection as a service provider without having to explain or without breaking any constitutional rights You can take stuff down filter it do whatever you want It's free for all really

47:59 So what the SESTA Act wants is the addition of really only one line, and that is you can still do whatever you want except when it comes to child trafficking. Sex trafficking not just child sex trafficking And EFF and another group, which are both funded heavily by Google are fighting this. Which makes for an interesting PR story because it makes... In fact I saw Tucker even say why would they protect trans sex trafficking? And I think it's a worthy debate not being had, obviously. But i have two clips which are perfect It is Senator Nelson who chaired the committee explaining the issue succinctly in under 2 minutes and I think he has one of... yes what the plaintiff.. what the issue here is very well explained Let's just get right to the nub of the question The opponents

48:57 of the bill argue that it's not necessary to modify Section 230, which would allow state and local law enforcement and victims to pursue those who assist and facilitate online sex traffic. The opponents argue that the existing statute already provides justice with adequate authority in order go after those wrongdoers rebut that argument so we can pass this bill. That's the way business should be done all the time in Congress, in my opinion. Senator I would ask each and every one of you to come to Sacramento with me where we are right now in prosecution of Backpage We filed 36 counts against Backpage 11 of them for pimping The sex trafficking part

49:47 and 25 more based on money laundering and conspiracy. You heard Senator Portman mentioned the ruling of the Sacramento judge recently in that case about a month ago where he said, and I will quote it as well speaking about Section 230 and its broad coverage shield against prosecution of those involved in sex trafficking. The judge said the broad reach of section 230 of the Communications Decency Act Even applies to those alleged to support the exploitation of others by human trafficking Based on that the judge dropped every single count relating to sex trafficking and we are now left with

50:35 to prosecute based on the conspiracy charges and money laundering, which we will vigorously do. But Backpage has been spoken about over and over again does more than just engage in conspiracy and money laundering from our perspective if we don't have the tools are those who go to the internet. Now, the way this sounded to me is like this guy was trying to present a case where he didn't have any actual evidence they knew what was going on so therefore he can only go after money laundering and conspiracy but I'm not sure he had a strong case to begin with here's one more opinion on this Of course the opponents of the bill are gonna say that this is gonna end the internet They're gonna say it's going to end their... It's going to end the internet economy

51:23 Give us the argument against that. Ms. Soros? Thank you, Senator We have over three decades of working closely with the technology companies within the purpose of our mission They have provided tools and partnered with us in a very collaborative manner to participate in ridding the internet of child sexual exploitation material. There are good actors on the Internet and there are actors that will always make extra efforts and collaborate with others to make sure that, you know, there is not criminal activity or other harmful contact

52:03 on the internet. They do that for business purposes, they do that for altruistic purposes as well there is simply nothing in this bill that will curtail that activity. The narrow scope of this bill is drawn to ferret out and shine a spotlight on those bad actors, those who are not screening or not engaging with others. All right let me come back to you General. So the argument's going to come well It's not going to allow websites to allow users to post restaurant reviews, family pictures or comments because of the fears of liability. Rebut that." I don't know what menus you're reading but this is not what we're going after and... The one joke of the whole two hours Senator, I think everyone should realize here at least from the perspective of Attorney General or a district attorney

53:02 We have to prove criminal intent. We can't win a prosecution unless we can show that the individuals were prosecuting like Backpage had the intent, the knowledge to do what they're doing. The legislation that you have before you is very narrowly- Yeah It's almost over. 15 seconds if you just want to end it. Yeah, but that just because...just specifically what he said when do we get and how come this isn't discussed much? And we had him come up with the Comey-Clinton investigation. This intent notion, you have two things that...two trains of thought. Yes I'm glad you caught that because i also wrote that down as a note like the intense hmm it's always intense there's no the laws are written for a purpose and when you talk about you don't it doesn't matter if you don't know the law you broke the law but I didn't intend to does not matter too bad I didn't intend to run the red light I just didn't see

53:59 I didn't intend to run the red light. I just didn't see it, I missed it." Well and you ran it so here's your ticket! Okay okay so I think in this case what he's trying- what this lawyer is trying to say... Bunch of lawyers in that room him, that he needs to prove intent that they specifically allowed this type of sex trafficking content to be on their site and didn't do anything about it. That is... I'm fine with that except the mixed message that the general public gets about intent is really getting on my nerves. I am in total agreement about that

54:35 Total agreement. It's like if you didn't know he broke the law, he didn't really break it Oh He didn't have any didn't intend to and that die has been cast To coin a phrase from The Shays Yeah it has been cast with Hillary and Comey. That's we can show that the individuals were prosecuting like Backpage had the intent the knowledge to do what they're doing The legislation that you have before you is very narrowly tailored. It goes only after sex trafficking, the broad exemption from any type of lawsuit

55:11 for those who provide online services remains. Okay, so here's my opinion on this and I've read into it and watched this whole thing The reason why Google et al do not want this to happen is once you get that in Once it's sex trafficking then its drug sales then its this and then its that And then it's never ending they know it and I believe that to be true There's one more thing If that were to happen, so for that reason alone I believe personally this act should not pass. I feel really bad it's happening but you gotta step up your game You gotta go after sex traffickers but we cannot allow the government to start regulating the internet in that manner

55:52 But I do hope it passes because it will screw all the centralized services. I really hope it passes because it will bring them down and we just need to go back to a decentralized internet, the way was developed We have all kinds of hash space where we can store stuff You can't take it down if there's no commercial motive It's going to be fantastic So I hope it passes to bring these A-holes down Ah! Even Gold Bear engages in wishful thinking. You don't think it's going to pass? I don't know whether it is going to pass or not, but if it passes or not, it's not gonna bring anybody down It will start a domino effect

56:38 of regulation. There's no such thing as a domino effect it will start regulations of these services there's a law in place already how come that hasn't started the dominant what law? There's no one that you said yourself all this is is one new line and an existing law right but then that you can add the second new line, and then the third new line, and the fourth bitcoin yeah but that wouldn't have happened if they initial Lines weren't there in the first place. No no no I'm sorry, you're misunderstanding what section 203 says it says you are completely Clear of any type of claim of any matter whatsoever? No matter what people post on your site now You may have to take it down but you cannot be held liable that's the law

57:26 And I think it's a good law for the internet. Which i think is reasonable, but now they want to add... Okay you're thinking they're just gonna add this and then that well we added this and then nobody said that That's what they're thinking! So I'm sure that's what would happen but yes But it would have either that's going to happen anyway some other way okay? Okay but let's kickstart that shit yo! I don't think so You're talking me-I was all for this Until you've talked me out of it. Talked you out of what? Out of passing it? Out of your position Well, how did I talk you out of it because now I know more and now realize what a scam It is if you want to bust up people that are pedophiles which I think is what they're trying to do here Right right just go after them. I mean, it's not impossible breaking up these pedophile rings all the time That's my position as well

58:15 That is my position. I'm just telling you my dream should yes, my final decision No, that's my dream My position is it should never pass? My dream is it passes and everyone gets taken down with it That's like yeah, that's your wishful thinking that's what you said even Colbert has wishful thinking I got you the first time Yeah, okay. So that's what going on with that analysis but it is a scam to bring in legislation and honestly... It's like net neutrality is a scam to bring the government into regulation Yes! But nobody picks up on that one including the EFF Ah yeah thank you well EFF understand I don't think they actually do understand That's worse Ben I'm not sure when there's a vote on this thing

59:03 Well, I'd be surprised if it didn't pass. Me too because they had mothers... As long as you drop pedophilia onto anything just make it a tagline and boom! It's got to pass otherwise you're a pervert They had mothers in there whose kids were killed and throat slit and just horrible horrible stories How could you vote anything but yeah pass it? It was really well done. It works very well done Hey by the way the Spanish police have raided the Catalan government to halt the... or hopefully halt the referendum. They're busting up the entire government and throwing judges and everybody in a slammer. They're going nuts! It's a revolution, you can't do that it's illegal Of course it is they took over three cruise ships just to house the cops they are gonna bring in Oh geez Yeah Three

59:59 So then what do they have? They got 800 person ship, a thousand passenger ship. Two thousand passenger ship... They are not messing around! I'll tell ya! Holy moly, I wonder if we'll get to see any of that My guess is unlikely. They will have to run one story, I mean they've done this...they did it with the Rohingyas where there's group that's being rushed out of Myanmar and one good story boom they got it covered and they go on to the next stuff, the anti-Trump stuff. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C, where the C stands for Catalano is a revolution. Devorah

1:00:44 Yeah, I'll end the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry Also in the morning all boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning everybody in the chat room noagendastream.com check us out live when we do this show Live2Tape with a live studio audience every Thursday and Sunday morning at noagendastream.com And thank you too Conan Salada a favorite of the album art. He brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 6, 5 Yanking Mikes was the title of that one and this was the rather voluptuous woman with the Bill of Rights bikini which just you know we looked at the artwork we said hello we know what works

1:01:28 This is advertising. It was a great... It's a nice piece And what was even cooler, I think you saw it John When you look at the iPhone podcast app under new and noteworthy Yeah You had a picture of this beautiful boob woman Two boobs Two boobs yeah And next to her was another boob Oh my god Rachel Maddow It was hilarious Yeah. It was absolutely fantastic! Nailed it! Thank you very much, Conan and everyone who supports us with your artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com. It's highly appreciated and I believe that we get a lot of traction with stuff like that. I hate to say it but the way it is...

1:02:19 got to be commercial. All right, well we have a few people thanks for executive producerships and associate executive producerships in fact we have two executive producers and one associate they had very slow day oh but luckily the save of the day was uh our buddy sir anonymous of dog patch back again it was seven hundred dollars and $10.65 in foreign notes." Did he actually put that in the envelope? Yeah! Cool, what kind of foreign notes? It was a Pakistani rupee... something from Qatar... And there was a third one I can't remember where it was. Dude did you see-I couldn't clip it- You see Qatar is running commercials now? Stop the blockade on Qatar Oh I haven't seen that. On CNN

1:03:05 I don't think we're even close to getting to the bottom of that story. We've got to keep a good look at it. Sir Anonymous writes in a typewritten note with no signature and also NJNK for your benefit. Yes, NJNK! Russian hackers biting bad pollsters in the media and Comey all did their best to make me lose the donation Fortunately, being a man I was able to blend into the background of the overlooked and make it through these obstacles. Facial recognition, I believe is all about database collection. Want an e-gate pass in many countries? Facial recognition is required and they track you by phone and face! I do wonder about technical issues such as lighting requirements for successful recognition. Three separate security systems that have had difficulty capturing me and dogpatchians are not that odd looking."

1:04:03 I also agree that algos discriminate and more than Burka and Nicob issues will arise in this data capture. But hell, people are freely gave their flawed information to banks to get credit who in turn monetized it through securitization and then freely gave their shopping choices to Google, and Amazon who monetized it then freely gave their opinions of Facebook, who monetize it. Then freely gave conversations in their home and phone to Apple, Amazon, and Google, who monetize it. So why not freely give your 3D facial image to Apple and others to monetize based on a makeup needs? Glasses need or whatever people dream up

1:04:44 Yeah, net yeah. He's from the future our seronymous is I guess Net net net people give away their personal information and others make money Based algo or not a biased algo are not face or recognition will be monetized And he's right guy think he's absolutely right and it probably would be all you're not using the right makeup use max Intelligence agency control in my opinion is about controlling the message delivered to the decision maker. I just realized, you know where this is going to take place first? Dating sites! Oh yeah... They'll have some algo that will algorithmically match you with your facial data

1:05:33 Well, you know there is they had this well Chris a lot of this is bullcrap We can detect we can already detect if someone's gay through facial recognition So why not detect if there's a match I bet you we can or we can market it here. I Bet you we can mark it that way Right? I bet you we can't but we will In other words we can't but we'll say we can yes exactly It's some machine learning It's just fabulous. Algos is a machine, a lot of guys with doctors who are saying oh yeah we worked on this. Remind me to tell you about the algo and backscatter. Algo and backscatter? Okay let me finish his note. All right. He's now he said that finally giving us some of his opinions intelligence agency control in my experience is about controlling the message delivered to the decision maker not necessarily making the decision maker

1:06:30 incapacitated and unable to make a decision. Controlling the fog of war is the mission, message control by M5M is part of their premise on your podcast and so you monetize it just not at the same valuation yet." There's a point to be made there which was that we're doing everything everybody else is. We're just from Silicon Valley in the future, okay? Well thank you, Sironymous for bringing this to our attention. John E., and for the foreign currency worth 10 bucks. John E. Fidler $333.01 out of Lake Forest Park Washington. Ah another note this one's handwritten so it's gonna be a little tougher

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1:08:08 That $3.33 per show seemed a much more appropriate value for value, so here is my contribution for the last 100 shows." Gladney came in with 333.01. Nice! Plus a penny for Adam's Penny Jar. Thank you I've got it thank you very much. Give it to someone else that gets passed around as one who tries to straddle both universes I live in an area that is firmly universe B which is most areas Which is most metropolitan areas. Most of the... yes just on the coast in Metropolitan, which clouds my thinking. I often disagree with you as a medical profession. I shudder when you talk about vaccines. I am in agreement about how they can't predict the weather in three days so there's no way computer models will be able to predict what will happen in the next 330 or 300 years that said humans are degrading the planet around us and the depletion of the animal and fish populations are real

1:09:09 On other topics, you are spot on SSRIs and pipelines for sure. And I've always enjoyed Gulen and Euro news updates. More than anything your show has taught me to think outside the box and always challenge the source of information including you! I have a Gulen update not a Gulen update. I have a Turkey update. The Obama administration... Obama? The Trump administration cancelled a weapons sale to them That's weird. Not a big one, it was not just not a big deal but it was I think was guns for the for his you know like uh it was guns It wasn't any missiles or anything but cancel calling it off we're not gonna sell that to you For us certainly for Trump they say we're not going to sell you some weapons? What's wrong! That's un-American Next time we talk about the Gulan and the rest of it

1:10:08 Turkish mechanic I ran into. Okay, uh... He gave me a long lecture about how- Actually, I think I might have some turkey news later so yeah. Oh maybe Find the unclipped primary sources to see things in context Look for the difference views about subjects and always Always follow the money Keep up the great work John Fidler Seattle Washington And he's got his two requests Yes and i have them lined up There is need for rescue mission When world is threatened The world needs help It calls on America And that's the story. You've got karma. Boom!

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1:12:01 My millennials stay woke and two to the head because both of those chuckleheads make me want to shoot myself in the head twice with my left hand in a covered hot tub inside a small plane while it's plummeting to earth. That's pretty much the way to go! I would like to ask for a douchebag call out for anyone who has listened to more than five episodes and is not donated. You know who you are, and get with the program losers In no agenda we trust the JB, neither the DMV. Yeah the DMV and Barona of the Poconos fantastic here we go! But resist we much We must and we will much about that be committed My millennials stay woke You've got karma

1:12:56 Perfect. That's it and that yeah, I say we got our one or two in one. That's man those poses the show yes, I have a PR mention This is now is another third of the fourth no agenda novel has been released Yeah, this is Scott McKenzie This guy really cranks them out, I have to say. He's written and i enjoy-I have not read this one yet but I've read the previous two for sure and uh... I have to say that they're just short they're easy to read there is a lot of no agenda memes in it. This one isn't as short as the others. Oh really? Okay. It's pretty big

1:13:34 Here's a note from hoping you'll be kind enough to give PR mention on the show for the release of Red Cell, the latest No Agenda novel which I've just released in paperback and Kindle form. The book is based on a clip you played in episode 532 way back in 2013 it took two years to come up with the right plot and then 2 more years to write this sucker It's full of no agenda memes and subjects you've discussed including terrorist attacks on malls roller coasters, the superbowl, and killer selfie sticks John with a bit of luck here should have arrived in the P.O box did you get it? Yeah, yeah you did nice package I haven't received it yet. I didn't get the I got the Kindle version no agenda novels calm support Scott and his work is and just read as fun It's a good read you'll enjoy it. It's a page writer so this is a page turner page Turner Page Turner John I believe today is not isn't that is it not Poland's birthday today Poland yeah

1:14:33 I don't know, maybe. I do know one thing for the next show we have to ask people to give us all their money because the world's coming to an end. Wait wait wait! Before you do that because that was my next thing on the list...I'm sorry The Christianization of Poland took place in 966 AD That's what i had to remember episode 966 Oh, that would have been a good one. That would have been a good one yeah and hey and Poland A bit obscure. I am not letting up on our president coming through on his promise for the visa waiver program is bullshit it's annoying It is annoying Yes the rapture! I've been following this as well. Not just the rapture we're all gonna die

1:15:20 Yeah, the rapture is supposed to take some people to heaven and you say hey where did Bill go? And but no that's not gonna be as good. It's just this planet X is gonna finally slam into earth and wipe us out on Saturday I might add and I'm surprised that not people are more worked up about this I mean we remember the 2012 episode when people were all gonna die and That didn't come to fruition No didn't you'd think it would happen I think people will be a little bit, it's not in the news. They're not playing this on... Maybe they will by Friday. I'll look forward to it ABC CBS NBC Is it Friday? It's the 23rd is...? No no The day that happens is Saturday Oh okay We're all gonna die! But I think its Friday that they should cover it Oh yeah Yeah because it would be their last newscast That would make sense Yes that would make sense Well I want to thank our executive producers and one associate executive producer

1:16:20 And certainly a synonymous of dogpatch for bringing up the levels for today's show. We do have another one coming up on Sunday, we do this without any advertisements, corporate interest... No buddies who are rich who are helping us out. No it's you! You're the producers and you produce in many ways and one that a lot of people like doing is supporting us financially which is exactly why we give you credits at the beginning of the show as executive and associate executive producers because that's how Hollywood does it and that seems to work okay for them And please remember us for Sunday at... Dvorak.org slash NN Okay, no award show but you can still always be out there propagating our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up, Slade! We're all gonna die

1:17:18 Already people in the chat room saying, we don't talk about Niburu now. Geez, that story's been around forever! Every year it happens but this is the one. So we probably won't be doing it. Every morning when I get up and drink my coffee on the balcony... In Texas morning sky I can see Venus with a naked eye It's really cool. Very bright Really? Can you see the rings? That would be Saturn This is Venus Oh, I thought it was Uranus I walked right into it, too. I have Walking right into a guy To make it up to you and I will give you a clip Designed for you because I know you're gonna love this clip is an Amazon yes about the snafu oh

1:18:09 Well, it's not a snafu. Oh yes snafu here we go Amazon is apologizing for a glitch the left a lot of customers confused You may have received the email yesterday Notifying you that somebody bought an item off a baby registry that you don't have The email read, a gift is on the way addressed to an Amazon customer. A lot of people thought the email was kind of a scam or something but Amazon says it was actually just technical glitch. The company sent follow-up emails apologizing for the glitch. Thanks, that's great reporting everybody. Hey we three uses I think it was four no only three Oh my getting glitch at the beginning and then two glitches at the end I'm gonna play my version of the algo glitch The bomb because I have a longer a little longer report than yours

1:18:58 Glitch the bomb yes, the Amazon bomb making materials another algo. Oh that oh yeah this that was a different story You know I I don't even know if I grabbed a clip of that But as you did I see it the product of terror a simple bucket believed to contain simple household ingredients combined to make a potentially simple yet lethal bomb and Products like these not only available in the shops but online through Amazon. And as this program has discovered, Amazon will not only sell them to you but recommend the combination of elements required So here we have a chemical widely used in food preparation but also one of the main ingredients of gunpowder

1:19:40 and just below in the frequently bought together section, two other vital components. With these and another ingredient which you can find if you scroll down on the same page put them together and you have all the makings of a crude bomb If you wanted to make thermite part of a firebomb which burns at 2,500 degrees Amazon technology will cleverly guide you further suggesting powders not only that but further down it will also flag ball bearings often used for shrapnel to cause maximum damage. Now, I have a couple of questions about this. And this obviously leads into a short algo conversation algorithms but... We need to give the listeners of a little background on the story. Why did you play that clip? Because it refers to the bombings in London and then somebody came up with this bright idea that Amazon- You could buy all these things at Amazon no one's ever done that we know off

1:20:45 Well, this is my first question. The way I understand this functionality of Amazon... It's Amazon it's not Amazon as Amazon to work is These are products frequently bought with the product you were buying now therefore be very easy for them to Cross-reference and find out who bought those products together except that was a thing that was not in the report No one's asking this question But for me, it's more just the...it is bringing the conversation and the concept of these algorithms that are working with us against us or whatever to light. I like that a lot. Where..I don't know....well, I think this was Channel 4 who did this? I think they broke it

1:21:32 They just came up with it. All the networks picked up the story, they all ran a long package about it in this show. They had a guy on the street... Yes! And he's got- There was a guy typing in and oh look dude look look ball bearings was the big one We must- Even though even with thermite, thermite doesn't blow up It's a thing that fizzles Fizzles. It burns, it brings down buildings Very cool The what was the food stuff they're talking about? What solvents is not sulfur salt salt Peter. Sol Peter maybe nobody uses that Maybe you can buy it on Amazon Yeah, I know but you could let's but they said it was part of the food that you might have in your kitchen Yeah, how old's a boy now sugar teen let's give him some salt Peter so he can't get it up. Yes Oh

1:22:18 Okay, the point is you know yeah. The point is that personally television the television networks do not like You know they're being eaten their lunches being eaten by the likes of Google Facebook etc so anything they can do there's a negative story against them is a bonus particularly if They can knock down their advertising or get more More legislation in they hate him this is this is a real war that's going on and But the algorithms themselves is what I want to talk about briefly. Because, I've really started to learn a lot about how this works and the story that I found most appropriate is the guy who invented the backbone of today's current artificial intelligence Jeffrey Hinton...I may be wrong by the way! I'm just telling you what I found from my research. I'm sure million people email me that I am stupid don't

1:23:13 And it was actually backpropagation. That's that was the term I was trying to remember so back propagation is the entire system of which computers with the computers use, it's a model to throw switches until you get the most right answer. And if you do it, you can kind of...if you see it drawn on a board, you can kind of understand it." But this guy now comes out and says we have to start over. This is not going- You will not be able to create true machine learning and his concept as we need some kinda- No one's discovered yet that we know but we need a master algorithm that is the basic building block that replaces backpropagation. SkyNet!

1:23:58 So, from what I'm understanding from the guy who kind of developed the whole idea is that none of these will actually be any good or can they get to the promise of what is being sold to us. And we're just going to see more of these dumb, dumb decisions. Dumb algos making dumb decisions for your dumb life and maybe someone will try and get some legislation done or whatever but you know you are being controlled by this. By what you see, by what you hear, by what you read everything! What your credit score is if you're a good human being it's all biased algos. Yes

1:24:40 I hope that anybody that's been listening to the show for a while doesn't already know this, that this is nonsense. Yeah right? Right right right right! Okay okay okay... I just like seeing people wake up to it like what what this is weird how does that but how can Amazon be doing that you know how can this happen?! What?? I don't understand how did I get that email!? This is just the beginning oh Professor Ted He was so right. Well, let's see what we got here... Uh you want to do the Mr and Miss America thing and get it out of the way? Right after I read one note because i know you're not going to read it from producer Jay Codiccini

1:25:23 I don't know if you saw this note. John? Yes, I did! But i've heard you tell your Saudi Arabian chicken restaurant story multiple times on the show. I think the name of the chain is Al Tajaj Is that the one yeah, I think that's what the name is I was visiting my wife's family in Amman Jordan over the summer and was surprised when I found out there Was a chain in amman I told my wife about hearing you on this show talk about how good the chicken was and told her we needed To try it She gave me a weird look and told me Al-Tazaj is like the Middle Eastern version of Kentucky Fried Chicken, and refused to take me. It would be like telling a foreigner that KFC has the best chicken in the US! She proceeded to make fun of me in front of her family and friends for the rest of the trip about how this stupid conspiracy theory podcast I listen to gives bad recommendations on fast food chicken restaurants. Ha ha ha!

1:26:17 You might need a new wife. That's pretty rude. Wow, uh yeah, she's obviously rude. You're gonna make fun of you in front of her family first of all Fast food chicken, and I would say Kentucky Fried Chicken. And I knew you were gonna defend it too! Yeah of course In its initial iteration with the high pressure cooker chicken cookers these things are like pressure cookers that Cook deep fat they deep-fat fry under pressure It was an invention by the by the check to Kentucky fried chicken chain They make an outstanding chicken. I mean I've seen other people that can make chicken that's pretty good. But Kentucky Fried Chicken is not a bad product in its initial form if it's done right

1:27:02 There's no reason to believe that this place it packs a man the chicken place, and I think that is the right one there's actually two chains that are floating around there and Yeah, you could probably mock it. I doubt he can make chicken as good I Just like that is also brined It's a brine chicken yeah, it's not which is you know? It's salty. I mean it's like going to us like ridiculing Morton's Morton's is a chain. It's a huge chain of steakhouses, but they do a pretty decent job buying expensive meat and cooking it right and I don't eat there but I know that the guy who leads... You know what he should do? First off all the only problem i have is that she is now disparaging this show in front her family

1:28:00 Yeah, so I think he should make No Agenda Chicken for her. Oh the No Agenda Chicken's good but it's not the same as the other stuff? But then say this is...I got this from that stupid Conspiracy Theory podcast. We don't have too many conspiracy theories on this podcast or she doesn't listen to the show. Anyways The King of Jordan eats at Morton's in San Francisco specifically. Alright, I'm sorry for the distraction Yeah, well that's okay. Miss America! I'm ready for this, I've been waiting for it- It was a good letter let's take and do a couple of pages This is your swan song, I want everyone to understand who is new to the program Yeah never gonna do this again This uh...this is how we started our original television deconstruction Uh when we really got deep into how it works behind the scenes what's going on and how

1:28:47 They can be idiotic at times, sexist. So everything you hear is just us being television producers and analyzing as Hollywood does behind closed doors they would this is you know when you read the emails how the top guys in Hollywood are joking about Jews and blacks right the Sony emails good so many emails yes then they have to apologize oh well yeah that's how they talk sexist so that's what we're gonna do here it's not us this does not represent Adam & John as men Right. That said, let's get to the boobs! Well yeah, the boobs are my... Mimi said them every time she got up, fake, fake, fake boobs! We need to put that fake news, fake boobs. Now the two women I thought at least in their they had this introductory you know where they have all the girls say hi and then and then

1:29:42 Call all of them except 15 and then they make them more bathing suits. I like the use of the word call Yeah, and then they make him wear bathing suits And they think 15 in Miss America in particular they never pick that genuine beauties Why I mean there are some women that you look at and go, oh my God. The sky's the limit for this woman." And the two genuine beauties I think they were completely overlooked and cold right off the bat. Actually both of them somewhat were a surprise especially Miss California. Miss California was a beautiful blonde that'll be working in broadcasting or something we'll see her eventually

1:30:19 Uh, no. And it's rare to do that because you're in your California watches this show and we are always looking for a Miss America who can go on to have a broadcast career. That's what it's all about especially the parades and if hello No, no and the other one she gets it. You know it's the commentary as the Macy's Thanksgiving Thanksgiving Day Parade goes by And so the other one that they left out was Miss Ohio who was another beauty that was now yeah Maybe they had no talent They knew they weren't gonna get very far because I could be cuz all the talent this year was all It was all dancers oh and One woman who is a ventriloquist

1:31:04 And Mimi, who was... Yes. The two puppets. At first it was really good. I bet she was really good! You know what? I'm looking at Miss Ohio. She's cute. Yeah you don't know that- trying to find these girls on the 2018 is that 2018 are you sure No, 2016 you're right. Yeah don't even try okay I've already tried when i did the clip for the newsletter yeah so 20 said guys standing there same people looks the same that girls look the same but should be 2017? Yeah it just should be 2018 and I picked the wrong picture alright so Mimi's watching this and she's produced comedy and she's got to say mentality about ventriloquists

1:31:47 Which is? They're all, it's a joke. It's like a running gag amongst comics. Oh, ventriloquist... She says this woman is the best ventriloquist she has ever seen! And she probably doesn't like ventriloquists at all No And I have to say this is the best ventriloquist that I've ever seen in so far as not moving her mouth, not showing signs that she's even talking. She was really good and she could yodel as a ventriloquist. You know... She had no material! Whenever it wasn't a funny act. Whenever I look at Match.com I always you know look for profiles that can-that are ventriloquists and can yodel because those are the hotties

1:32:29 Well, this was Miss Louisiana. So she didn't win of course because uh, too cute a woman who won was miss North Dakota and more North Dakota I don't know how she wants you to. She has what I would call it and people would, you know this again is talking as a producer, she's a Mormon face on Mormon faces kind of flat and kinda kinda square and dead ringer for almost a dead ringer for um, What's her name? The... I don't know. Brother and sister act, they were so popular. Ah! The Osmonds. Yeah she is Marie Osmond that just nailed it. And my daughter said she looked a lot like Miley Cyrus

1:33:09 Okay, the winner it's a family affair there at the Dvorak. You're all nice I get good information Yes Now the one that the other one that was kind of odd That was very familiar looking and then you said what what? Was miss Alabama who is eliminated she got into the final 15 But she got bumped Miss Alabama She was an Ivanka Trump clone to look just like her And they like to talk like this, kind of like... I don't want to talk too loud. And that was who? Miss who? Alabama! Okay All right, so let's go to a couple of the law anomalies which are these question and answer thing with people talk at the very beginning when they announce everybody they get To say a little spiel. Yeah And so we have the my favorite one is where is it? This is this miss a New Mexico she comes out from New Mexico and she goes into an immediate rant The next move on in the competition Is Miss New Mexico? Taylor

1:34:09 I want to tell the next generation of girls to be loud and take up space. And don't be afraid to have an opinion, Don't suck in your stomach because you feel like you're bigger and don't slouch because you feel like you're tall Have an opinion and speak out Because you have every right to be here It's like a rich person saying You know Looks aren't everything Yeah, Sheryl Sandberg. Just yeah lean in Lean in little guy you know Chew up space Don't suck in your stomach which she does not have to do I'm sure They all did In fact I'll tell you they would I thought there were generally speaking the women and the bathing suit companies were generally a little chunky very few of them I think maybe two of them had a small waist Chunky? Unusually were unusually chunky

1:35:00 So we had the bathing suit competition. The funny thing is North Dakota probably was the second worst looking in a bathing suit. What was wrong specifically with her in the bathing suit? No waist, no figure... Big thighs. Walked funny. The whole thing. Had a wooden leg, limp? I don't want to be offensive but you were doing our bit so we're doing the bit that's right this is our excuse So they have this uh yes go all out then alright just go You started with the chunky did she have camel toe let's get it on the table

1:35:44 No, no. They all wore funny... kind of the bikinis had really big butt cover so they all looked like they whether they did or not they all looked like they had huge asses. All of them! Yeah, the big butt cover bikini. That makes no sense. Hey stop the meeting you're right that makes no sense someone take a note for next year Makes no sense So they answer called bus tarps is what they're called so the big The big deal about this show is we're gonna have to not one but two rounds of questions. Oh

1:36:25 Nice. The one question, the first round of questions is going to be lighthearted like what do you do? What's your favorite candy? You know what would you like when you have a day off? So with what it used to be that I want to say black children were collecting tinfoil. Charged questions they have now so oh that's good i'm glad they brought that back that's important Well, so you but you still had the dummies that were going to answer stupidly. And Miss Texas was the worst of this. The only of the dumb questions, the easy questions, the only one that really stood out was miss Texas is Miss America Dumb Q time. OK.

1:37:06 All right, Tara ask our final question. Okay Miss Texas. Miss America competes in swimsuit gowns talent intelligence what would be the categories for Mr. America? Sexist stop right there Come on that's sexist America I Think we should also have a swimsuit portion for the mr. America competition And only the best bods win so that's just my personal opinion Chris you want to compete good

1:37:45 Yes, absolutely. Keeping the tux on native advertising speedos speedos well was that it was the co-hostess that said speedos and they've asked why? Interesting so there would have been a you could have been in well Let me just say this is agreed let me say this about That that's a fine answer as far as I'm concerned in old school days like yeah Let's see some balls! No problem with that. I'm okay with that answer, it was a dumb question So we go into the final thing with the last five women And of course they put seven up to them and only ask five questions Then the other two are like what do we get to do? They kick him off I think its very cruel by the way Why did they do that

1:38:31 Because they're cruel. They don't just say here's the five you two can get lost and make him wait up there Oh They do it the worst time they do it is during that they do the same thing a commercial break We'll be right back with ten people They have twelve of them out there and ten of them are gonna do their performances in the dinner In the talent competition, and they leave to over and they all get dressed up They're all dressed up to dance or sing or play the guitar. That's mean, that's mean. And then they leave two of them there to languish sorry you two stink out it's just cruel I think it is a very cruel competition Who were the judges? Or the panel or whatever Just a bunch of people who've never heard of Okay I mean Tara Lipinski was the only one I heard of and well just vaguely she was the famous ice skater Alright onward So now we have the last five

1:39:22 that are gonna be asked questions and you'd think they would ask something deeper. The only way to do this fairly, by the way is to ask everyone the same question put them in sound booths. Yeah with their headphones on mess up their hair? Yeah yeah They should do that but they don't so instead they asked these just all questions all anti-Trump Trump hate questions and let's start with the first one that comes out this gives you a clue how it's going to go This is Miss AMO from Missouri Okay.

1:40:12 Right now I'd have to say innocent because not enough information has been revealed. We are still investigating this and- He's out, done! Alright hold on a second. Let's go to commercial and see if we can't do that. He's clearly not registered. Let's go to commercial. What is the latest about? Right now it would have to say innocent because not enough information has been revealed. We're still investigating this and I think we should investigate it to its fullest extent And if we do find the evidence that they have had collusion with Russia, then they should — the justice system should do their due diligence and they should be punished accordingly. Thank you very much Jennifer. Congratulations! What a fantastic answer

1:40:52 Right on. I mean, it's not a winning answer is the answer of losers. Earlier in the competition right after swimsuit, they had these little boxes in the corner with somebody's idea and they had little ditties about the person and said that were this... Info. Maybe was during the gowns. Info giblets. Yeah those little things pop up. So this one, Miss South Carolina. Very pretty girl I think she could have easily been in the top five or the top ten at least As soon as this pops up she's out What it said was can identify all kinds of aliens They should've had a little music there so tell us about your knowledge of aliens That's too good! As soon as they saw that they said whoop She is done! She is gone Outta there

1:41:49 Okay, anybody can identify alien. Well there's the orange ones and then there's the reptilians And you know the grays you know that mixed feeling and this is a big guy I got mixed feelings on them The tall blondes you know they're little different blonde They're all gorgeous onward We have other stuff to do as well. She was done then we went on dude so just to go back because we just did miss Texas and the other thing yeah here's Miss Texas again and Again, I don't know how this girl can even be from Texas with his answers miss, Texas Last month a demonstration of neo-nazis, white supremacists and the KKK in Charlottesville Virginia turned violent and a counter protester was killed. The president said there was shared blame with quote very fine people on both sides Were there? Tell me yes or no and explain I think that

1:42:42 the white supremacist issue, it was very obvious that it was a terrorist attack. And I think that President Donald Trump should have made a statement earlier addressing this act and making sure all Americans feel safe in this country. That is the number one issue right now." Dude she had to talking too! That's what happened there you know after that first answer like hey listen you bimbo You go out there and you say something good for us okay? This is what you're gonna say And you'll find in all these except one, the one that I liked. The one answer I liked because she got bumped to.

1:43:21 All of these they're just to talk and this is what people I think there's one other reason want to do this This analysis is what you're hearing. Is them? parroting the news mainstream media m5m Every day yeah, and so they're parroting it with this I mean where else do come up with Trump should have said something sooner that isn't MFM 5m meme yes It's what you're hearing is Essentially beautiful slaves. Mind-controlled, programmed and all ready for service. Yeah absolutely

1:43:57 And it's just, it's actually kind of sad. It's kind of except for the one except for Miss New Jersey I'll give her kudos or actually thinking for herself because she actually brought up one of my memes miss new jersey a recent poll found slightly over half of Americans favored leaving Confederate statues in place while others want them removed keep them or get rid of them what's your vote and why? I don't think that the answer is to get rid of these statues I think the answer is to relocate Museum because we are truly defy our country's history and I don't think it's something that we need to forget. We need to always remember it and honor our history of America because it truly makes us who we are

1:44:38 She's from New Jersey, of course she smart. He says moving to museums but your pronunciation of museums is museum The voice was a non-starter for winning she we cannot have her representing the franchise no No way so all right But she was pretty and she could have won, and she had the right answer to that question. She's either a no agenda listener or somebody else is promoting this idea? I doubt if she's a no agenda listener from what it looks like. Well... Okay! Why don't you say half of our listeners are deplorable? That'll help. They are! That's the idea.

1:45:22 I'm going to give you a floor is the deplorable. So, uh, we have a lot of good looking listeners there's no doubt about it. I've been to meetups but usually they're not kind of dingy bonds usually. I don't know maybe they are. Where is that? Big ass blonde. Remember her big as you want to know what happened in the big S blonde. Yeah she was an, she was like intelligence or something Yeah, she probably was told to shut up. Stop giving money to these guys. I think that's why something is fishy about Sironymous Right one day he'll just be gone No, I don't think he's got it so nobody knows who the hell He is well good. I want I don't know who big-ass blonde is either all right Let's go on with okay let's go on with D We're gonna do DC and then we'll wrap it with North Dakota now when I mentioned this has been just highly edited because they make him walk out there as a long as such of applause and she has to pick a ball

1:46:17 ball out of the bowl. It's got a judge's name on it, which I think is stupid and so this these are all tight. So let's go Miss District of Columbia given the evidence that concussions from playing football can cause brain damage would you support legislation that outlaws full contact football in elementary and high school? Yes or no and why I do believe that i would as someone who wants to go into the medical profession. I know how important it is to keep our kids safe so that they can have a quality education and when they're getting to high school and they're playing these sports, they are able to do so at the best of their ability and there not limited because they chose to play football at young age

1:46:58 She was a black woman. She didn't sound like it's shitty dumb question I don't like the question very dumb question question so she's out she's out Oh, she's out yeah So we have to now come to North Dakota who again as of kind of a flat face? She's um She did it, I have to say her talent which i don't know what the talent counts for but her talent she looked good in a gown she didn't look good in a bikini. Her talent was jazz dancing and I will say... Jazz dancing? Almost everybody's talent was jazz dancing. So she uh did a dance who-she did one of the things I have to give her credit she did one of those moves where you jump on a chair then you put your foot on the back of the chair and your chair falls. Ah, and then tip it over yes that's uh what's his name

1:47:46 I think Fred Astaire did that. Yeah, Fred Astaire but it's a Bob Fosse original. And then you kind of flip around or do something... Very good! She was a professional quality dancer. But not the only one there were two or three really good dancers And none as good as the ventriloquist per se. I need to get a clip of this, this is good. Yeah yeah you can find it and she's just got a big smile on her face fantastic ventriloquists. They mentioned the fact that female ventriloquists have a shot at this because they don't have an Adam's apple that you see wiggling Good point! Anyway so there was... So here we go

1:48:26 I don't know why she won. She's a goofy, she's kind of goofy, very perky, she's kinda like a cheerleader and maybe they figured that she'd be good on the road but i have no idea but didn't think this answer was that great especially compared to the museum girl yeah but here we go here is our winner Miss North Dakota 195 countries signed the Paris Agreement in which each country sets non-binding goals to reduce manmade climate change. The U.S is withdrawing from the agreement citing negligible environmental effects and negative economic impact good decision bad decision? Which is it and why I do believe it's a bad decision once we reject that thank you once we reject that, we take ourselves out of the negotiation table and that's something that we really need to keep in mind there

1:49:13 There is evidence that climate change is existing. So whether you believe it or not, we need to be at that table and I think this was a bad decision on behalf of the United States." Thank you. Okay. Glad she's such a good economist. Yeah she's a fast talker. She was nervous and uh...I don't know. I don't know. She'll be another one of them in the inflow. So who won this thing? Where did- She did! No! Yeah, I just told you that. Miss North Dakota wins the whole thing. Well now i want to take a look at her. Miss America... Look it, look miss north dakota, think her last name is Munn something like that It's got a funny last name Okay So she's a script reader She has a- oh gosh no You've got the right girl? Right on the homepage of missamerica dot org

1:50:05 Oh, okay. That would be her they're crowning her and no she looks uh Yeah i don't like the definition of her arms they look a little short actually yeah she does She's actually pretty smooth most of the group not all of them kara munt is her name right? Yeah kara munt yeah Okay well I should they have her here all gussied up let me see hometown bismarck north dakota platform issue make-a-wish passion with fashion Talent self choreographed jazz dance Uh, she's a- oh she has a major in business entrepreneurship and organizations. What is that? Eugh. Scholastic ambition to attend law school and obtain a JD. Secret wish or dream to become the first elected female governor of North Dakota Okay! Oh... She'll represent I'll be good but she's not the cutest

1:50:55 No, not by any means. But she's all around Miss America? Yeah... kind of I don't think they're- I don't think so. I think they've had better examples in the past. I think they're losing their touch. Yeah yeah i'd agree with that And the show's too long and they're very bigoted in who they pick. They don't really want to bring anyone that is actually beautiful, so if you are actually beautiful and you know who you are... Most women who are actually beautiful know who they are but they also kind of, oh I'm not that pretty yeah okay whatever. They tend to be shunned at these competitions

1:51:35 Because I don't know, she's too pretty. I have a dime-a dozen, dime-a dozen! Well they need... yeah anyway John thank you very much i agree it's probably time we pack this one up in the archives and never do it again because it's always always the same But I think we still should always discuss briefly who our new representative is. We have to deal with these questions, these rigged questions this was all anti-Trump questions the Russians what do you think? Well if your the judge and jury they should be in jail. The climate change every single question except for that football helmet question was noted. They determined up front we gotta give one of those and give it someone we know it's not gonna win. Yeah then there was a black woman

1:52:20 Okay, good job John and maybe just a little intermezzo here. That's right. The phantom pooper is on the run! This is a great story. I'm glad you got that clip because I had that clip to get it's a great cliff, absolute fantastic clip but it brings us right to the real clip that's important and I think it has something to do with it Is that California has turned into a third world country? Ah yes this is the poopery you need a report

1:53:03 So here's the hepatitis outbreak update. California is battling an outbreak of Hepatitis A which attacks the liver and is highly contagious San Diego has had more than 400 cases and 16 deaths. Mireya Villarreal is there Lines are long and constant at pop-up clinics around San Diego where hundreds of people waited to get free hepatitis A vaccines. City workers have been out in full force bleaching down sidewalks and benches this outbreak could last a for at least another six months. There's a desperate race against time to stop the hepatitis A virus from spreading, especially among the area's homeless and drug users Dr Nick Efantides is San Diego's chief medical officer It's not as easy as just saying hey get vaccinated The nature of some of these members of this population are such that they are inaccessible

1:54:01 frankly some of them have their reluctances in dealing with government. Hepatitis A spreads when someone comes in direct contact with an infected person's human waste 22,000 vaccines have been administered and the city is now setting up washing stations Kevin Faulkner is San Diego's mayor we're gonna have more additional shelters to help get people off the street get them the help that they need Steve Steven Zelezy, president of San Diego's Food and Beverage Association which represents 1200 businesses believes the city should have been doing more long before this outbreak. Where were they two or three or four years ago? It is great that they are coming up with some solutions now but they're really closing the barn door after the horses already left

1:54:44 Just yesterday, Los Angeles declared its own hepatitis outbreak. New cases here in LA and Northern California and in Arizona have all been traced back to the San Diego outbreak Anthony? Wow man I'm glad you guys at least aren't contributing to horrible climate change Right Focus on the wrong things there in California Well That's why there is a poop map in San Francisco. Yeah, they should be in that you know the city fathers or whatever mothers I don't know what they call them The people that run San Francisco should be ashamed of themselves for having a poop map online like that yeah it's shameful and anyone wants to come into San Francisco as a tourist? Don't do it! You're gonna get hepatitis

1:55:30 Now, is that just because feces is on doorknobs and stuff like that? Is that how it's... It's all over the place. People like you know they whether even actually stepping in it. Stepping in doesn't mean that you necessarily touch it No but you will touch it somehow it gets you know once this stuff spreads all over the place there sprayin' it They're washing down the streets and sometimes just a thin film of it You get at the bottom your shoes You pick up your shoes, you touch the bottom of your shoes. You got it on fingers now next thing you know you get hepatitis and now is there a vaccine against this? Yes. Ah luckily! This will be mandatory vaccinations for all they haven't called that in San Diego yet they will

1:56:10 They're giving them away, which is so there's no profit to this. Doesn't matter the idea is somebody has to pay for it and get people to do it but it's not about the vaccines It's about the fact that we're living in third world country where you can have an outbreak of hepatitis A open that anyone can get because just walking down the street Yeah why do you stay there? Well I'm across the bay You don't go out You know, I don't really leave the house. Don't really leave the house? You're kind of like me! I'll leave the house... I watch C-SPAN. Three times a week once a day to go to this grocery store for what i'm going to cook that actual evening and that's it. I'm just home we should Skype. It's just a thought um you know I have this uh

1:57:00 You know that Pelosi clip where she got shouted down by the dreamers? Oh, I love that clip. Let me play that just a little piece of it where she's yelling stop and stuff. Because you've had your say. By the way, this is really cool because it's uh... It's stereo separated I don't know if you hear that on the Skype connection if you get it through stereo But you can hear her very clearly in one channel and its kind of cool And it's beautiful to our ears To hear your protection yourself, Jake No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No, let go! No,

1:57:46 Yes or no to what? To what, what were they asking yes or no to. Well that's the question I hope to answer but what was good about that is because of the stereo separation and i was hoping first thing Tina said when she heard that was oh what a great ISO and yep producer Matt from Gitmo Nation East came up with this Full version at the end of the show we got a lot of dynamite We got a lot of good ones today, so Chris Wilson also doing great stuff anyway So what I found odd is that every channel every news channel was showing this but what actually happened? So I found the full

1:58:41 a recording of the full thing, which is like half an hour. It was actually interesting because I believe a lot of news outfits did not want to air the true message that The Dreamers were handing over to Nancy Pelosi and I think there was also a shill in their midst, who kind of took over and started his own... There's a bunch of school-looking kids and they were all dressed smartly. But all the sudden some kid comes in he is taller than the rest He's tall, he's wearing a suit and tie but his coat is off which was kinda odd. He looked like a suit literally! He looked out of place And he interrupts and just jumps in while they're chanting his chants

1:59:26 He- Nancy Pelosi is also just talking to him back and forth. It was incredibly odd, and I'm not quite sure what's behind that but Let's hear what happened. I have a couple of clips here this is when she was just started. Oh sorry Didn't mean to play that one Here we go. This is her opening. All these people standing with him, they are our VIPs They're our purpose Our very... So she has a whole bunch of kids and she's calling them VIPs Very important persons Important people My dad! My dad! We are in this together

2:00:06 Can you understand any of what they're saying? Because I could give you a little. I just heard we are immigrant youth, were not afraid. Yes and i thought there was a not my president chant there for a second oh I didn't hear that but it started with Mike. It started with mic check mic check which I like because that goes back to occupy wall street yes yeah and the mic check comes back the whole time uh but let's try and...I know what they say well see if you can hear We demand that directly impacted youth, we demand to be heard. We demand a clean bill that protects immigrant youth without

2:01:06 So now we're slowly moving away from you want us to protect, we want you to protect us but also our families. I like the we demand part Oh it gets better when you hear what they are going to say Now this is, this is political speech. I do not believe they wrote this themselves We demand a clean bill Yeah that makes no sense to you as a protester you would never say something like that Never say that so this is written for them we demand a clean bill This is scripted Thank you Now wait for the guy

2:01:48 No, he's coming up. The Democrats have created an out of control deportation regime no wonder CNN didn't air this Democrats are not the resistance of Trump.

2:02:47 So they don't want, they feel that the Democrats have deported 3 million people under Obama in the past 8 years. But listen now as this woman who started off gets interrupted by the professional guy who can understand a lot better of course. And it was great he just busts right in from behind the podium But if you've already traded in our parents, first you said

2:03:36 You supported a clean green act. There's your answer to why they're calling her a liar and again, clean clean this is if he's reading off paper too. And last week you announced that you had agreed with President Trump and I quote you to work out a package So now they're angry that they're being used as a bargaining chip for border security that Trump wants as part of the bill so it's not clean.

2:04:19 is that the Democrats are liars, they've created a deportation machine and that they have not passed a clean bill. And that was what was promised and now they want their... actually the sign said not until all 11 million so they want all immigrants because they are obviously all related to them. That's kind of what they're saying and then there should be no money for any other kind of border protection. We remember all too well

2:05:08 How about rangers? The Democrats, the Democrats laid siege to our community. Raiding and deporting, raiding and deporting nearly 3 million people, nearly three million people of our family members and loved ones. Our family members and loved one! This guy's a pro John this guy is a pro he knows what he's doing Well, I think the interesting aspect of this if you start to think about it is this mic check thing where you parody...not parody. You mimic whatever somebody else is saying as if its true and your now propaganda. Your brainwashing yourself! Yes!!

2:05:47 It's exactly, remember to do this. I remember- This is worse than Nazi Germany when Hitler gave his speeches that not everybody repeated what he said but this is somebody giving a speech the guy or the girl before him and you as a member of the audience because of this mic check phenomenon You are saying exact same words and they're going right into your brain in certain way if you walk away from it especially since it takes forever to get through You end up, you can now just parrot this to somebody else. This is really the kind of borderline discussion. It's a great takedown by the way. It almost... Where was your resistance then? We are our resistance! To Trump! Now this is interesting because you're right. You chant this we are the resistance for Trump

2:06:46 They become the resistance. Yeah, it goes over men's job so I'm just saying who is behind this? I'm just trying to figure out finish up the clip and that's why think who could put this in this is scripted and well done am I not? We extend our arms In struggle To our parents And our loved ones With you, we are prepared to struggle side by side in this fight. You have sacrificed that which is ours. How can we forget? We are not allowed in this fight! Okay, you've had some questions

2:07:44 Now this is what was so odd, is that now she's trying to get that guy to be quiet but she was really having a little back and forth with him while they were watching other people do stuff. It was very odd And this is an interesting group! I don't think that this is just Dreamers who said- or DACA Benefit beneficiaries. I don't know, I really don't like the fact that everyone's calling them dreamers because the act didn't pass yet I'm just you know this this seems like a group that is trying to bring down Everything here is a subversive operation yes Yes, the point of sorrows at some point well I hate to say it but that's all I can think of. He's the only guy who has anything

2:08:36 He's only good doing anything or there's operations, as many operations. I'm just surprised the government puts up with him." Well, I find it very disturbing and even more so that no news service that I could find actually aired any of this so you could hear what they were saying or what their beef was. Now they did ask...the thing at the end where they said answer yes or no to what? If she'll pass a clean bill Yeah, and I know maybe there was the dude quite question was that and also you know We want it to be all 11 million. Yes or no all 11 million yes Or no? I don't have that clip is it not easy to hear all of this obviously but now it's very difficult It's very impactful, and you can see that this is not a healthy situation No, and you're right. It's a subversive Operation and it needs to be looked at Look at the Russians

2:09:42 Get Rob Reiner on the case. Exactly. Investigate Russia! Alright, one little clip about the American Red Cross before we go to donations. Lisa Deviney's desperate straits tougher this week after seeking financial help from the American Red Cross and getting nowhere. Money the group promised Harvey victims through its immediate assistance program $400 per family We're not expecting to see our insurance funds for several months and meanwhile we still have to live. Devinney is one of many denied immediate help after Red Cross online systems crashed from heavy volume calls left unanswered weeks after the storm, the mayor now responding if you promise people something you gotta make it happen because otherwise don't promise at all It's not the first time The red cross has faced controversy A Senate committee report in 2016 finding a quarter

2:10:37 donations for the Haiti earthquake went to administrative costs, a number the Red Cross disputed. Now criticism of its Harvey response. Can you understand why people might be frustrated if they had been promised that money and not been able to receive it? We do apologize for not communicating as quickly and as transparently as we needed to. Tonight the Red Cross telling us their system couldn't handle the demand that they've given out $45 million so far and the immediate assistance program will be working by Thursday. The Red Cross is supposed to be there to help you, and we want that help. Storm victims hoping this time the funds will start flowing out as quickly as they flooded in I hate those guys They're really douchebags

2:11:23 And in general, I have to say this whole Harvey Irma and possibly is it Jose? Jose's already flaked out. What hit Puerto Rico? Oh that's the new one that is Maria I think Yeah but well where's...I don't know if he did it yet but Trump needs to go there. That's America I'm just saying as a PR move it would be smart. Maria, yeah. Red Cross man these got their A-holes and there seems to be movement against them but also what I've seen particularly here in Texas every nonprofit not every a lot of nonprofits are using this to fundraise it's just immediate fundraising opportunity

2:12:07 We don't talk about that enough, about how this works in American life. You know, oh ACLU we got some injustice quick let's go fundraise! Everyone is on the street again all the kids who put on the different T-shirt every day Just every tragedy is used for fundraising. It's very strange We had a yeah, I had a note from the guy who was down in Mexico during their quake Yeah he had a big note and you know what was odd? Is the day before...I have this app on my iPhone it's called Disaster Prediction

2:12:46 And it's from a pretty well-known guy who tracks solar flares and what else does he have? All kinds of magnetic storms, solar storms. And the day before there was some kind of something on a scale six on a scale or something and it said possible earthquakes and boom the next day I just thought that was interesting. Yeah I know about this guy don't have his app The app is great What is it It's called the disaster prediction app. It sounded like something that had my name written on it Disaster prediction app yeah, it's bad he says really bad well this guy does have any other alternative places to donate including a topos Rex rescue brigade and he said which is uh We should put these in the show notes Yeah I will but he says the Mexican Red Cross is fine

2:13:35 Um, yeah. Like the Dutch Red Cross I know had big scandal and maybe the UK Red Cross... It's a very heavy organization they got a lot going on. And again, they're checking out like you want to donate for Harvey victims? So where is it going? The thing is ABC got in bed with Disney and Disney got in bed with the Red Cross and they were plugging the hell out of them during the Houston event Right at the end of every network news, it was unbelievably dense Red Cross promotions. Crazy! I don't know what the hell is going on there but it seems kind of sketchy. Hey we have a big list to people to thank for saying as big as I'd like

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2:23:00 I get a lot in on the round table when it's just one night. Yes, you get to talk forever go to knowagenthenation.com slash rings and Give Eric the show all your deets and we'll get that out too as soon as possible Thank you again, and thank all of you who have contributed to the show. It's really appreciated Oh, service animal update? Ah yes. My beat? Yeah. It's my beat, it's my beat, it's my beat... Let's see we have uh-it just going nuts and you know now that certainly in America couples young couples have substituted having children for pets they really want them treated as their children and be able to take them anywhere they go

2:23:54 If you have a legitimate service animal, which actually can be a pony. It can be a pony or a... or dog. Goat? Nope! No goats. Pony or dog and it has to be... You could get a pony on an airplane Well hold on a sec I've read up on this now, I understand. It's a real problem for people who really have a service dog which performs a service... A comfort animal or an emotional animal that does not fall under the guidelines so you can be rejected and there was a woman she tried to bring her pet snake into Disney World and made it little fuss there did not understand she needed it for emotional support

2:24:37 And we see now that municipalities and other groups of people live are saying, hey hold on a second this is getting out of hand. Here's the answer to your question about a support pony. Come on Mr. Mister! This is in Minneapolis she's talking to her service pony. Come on Mr. Mister! Some might find it strange to share 800 square feet with a 300 pound Shetland pony. Unusual or not, Pam Davidson wouldn't want it any other way. We're all different people in this world we're all different people and Tony is different and I'm different

2:25:23 Diagnosed with depression and anxiety. Is that the horse poop? No, it's just a horse clopping around. Oh, it sounds like horse poop! No, no horse poop. It is different and I'm different. Diagnosed with depression and anxiety Pam calls Tony... He helps me like you would not believe! ...the Wonder Pony for what he has done to turn her life around This animal has kept me from dying this animal has helped me become active This animal has got me out of my bedroom where I was locked myself away for a year and half after my sister died. Pam says her pony is housebroken since he came from another family who raised him indoors

2:26:03 She's had Tony since May as an emotional support animal. I have letters from my doctors... Despite mental health professionals weighing in, it took just a few days to hear from the cities of Clarissa and Eagle Bend where she lives and spends her time Hey! Clarissa's city administrator didn't want to be on camera but told WCCO the emotional support title differs from a full-fledged service animal. You are so good They're not entitled to the same protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act Also citing safety as a concern A truck driver was forced to break when he found Tony wandering near the highway this summer Come on

2:26:45 Pam has offered to build a fence and not take her pet into businesses where he's not wanted anymore. They won't listen to me. She doesn't want to move but vows to do whatever it takes to protect the pony that Pam says has done the same for her. I'd rather be homeless, I'm not gonna let him go. We're all going to die! Civilization is ending Well, a couple of things come to mind. One the city of Eagle Bend has this restriction that's not a city it's like some town somewhere I mean they can bend a little bit they get the name Bend in the name so i don't think there's...I think that she should be able to have this horse if he gets out once in awhile yeah probably gonna get killed. Well they don't want her walking around in town with it

2:27:37 Why? They have a law on the books that says you can't have horses in town. Yeah, well I think they're too rigid. I don't see a big deal...somebody walking around there used to be a guy in Berkeley who used to walk around naked. The naked guy they used to call him. That's okay! No, there is a law against it but they decided to let it go and slide. They can let this slide. There are things known as variances. You give a little bit especially when maybe you just do not want the woman in your town. I think that's what it is. What's what it's coming down to is people not understanding the law about what? What isn't is not permissible with a and what is and is not a service animal And when does she get out of with this horse, I mean if she had a dog dog. I mean a bit I think they're little brighter than a horse. I know other people all horses are very smart. I think they're idiots So my horses, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan

2:28:31 Yeah, you feed them and you turn around they bite you. They kick ya! Yeah, yeah this is douche-douches total douches Do you see the story? And by the way AdamMcCurry.com I don't want to hear from any horse people No please There was outrage it went viral really quickly that a woman had seen fake raw cotton plant at Hobby Lobby you know, as a decorating thing and called him out. Called him out? For what? For not having sensitivity To what?! Oh my gosh! Why don't you see the immediate connection? Let me guess... Raw cotton would be connected to the slaves who used to pick cotton back in the day Bingo!

2:29:23 And this is a story from last week which I didn't play the clip for. This is Lipscomb, Lipscombe University College whatever I don't know where it is. I forget now because it was a week ago, I did the clip He had a similar faux pas when he invited some students over to his house for dinner Tonight some students and community members are upset with Lipscomb University for what seems like a lack of sensitivity at a special president's dinner The event was called specifically for African-American students But the menu and the table decorations were shocking to some. The centerpieces featured stalks of cotton, and the menu included cornbread and collard greens. Tonight News 4 can confirm that cotton floral arrangement was used only on that night. Well tonight President Lowry says in part

2:30:11 quote, the content of the centerpieces was offensive and I could have handled the situation with more sensitivity. i sincerely apologize for the discomfort anger or disappointment we caused and solicit your forgiveness." Now the student who confronted the university president says that apology isn't good enough that the president had a chance to make it right but didn't now there was another special dinner tonight before this one for hispanic students dinner that evening consisted of a fajita bar. Okay, write it down short the Hanes clothing company because cotton t-shirts will be racist oh they could be it's coming I only use Egyptian cotton myself Oh mother still slaves

2:30:56 depicted. This is the, your borderline here gave a borderline clip of the day because this is the most ridiculous thing and I was unaware of the cotton being a race overtone yeah you nailed it oh yeah no I figured out as soon as you said there was something going on with cotton but The other thing is they mentioned a meal which is collard greens, which every black restaurant serves in the Bay Area. And cornbread, any southern restaurant would serve for sure so cornbread and collard greens isn't offensive necessarily unless you're going to call them out for... Pandering to the blacks? No it'd be appropriation You shouldn't be cooking collar green if your white

2:31:43 Is that so? I'm gonna make them tonight. Tell me how to prepare it, can you do that? Colored greens or mustard green sounds better. Yeah, it's chopped the mustard greens up and then Put them in some boiling water to clean them put them in some boiling water and take him to the should they get bright green? Because they could go right green. Yeah as soon as you get too bright green then wash him down with some Cold water so that bright colors right stays yeah And then you then you would saute em for just a minute or so not too long because then the Green will go away in butter and garlic Oh

2:32:30 Butter and garlic okay, thank you. I go nice little vinegar in there if you want red wine or balsamic No, no, not why some just white a white vinegar anything that's just light little bit Just like our tables tables from got it top fantastic Thank You And they have a nice bite to mustard greens have a nice flavor mmm. They have a I think they're much better than collard greens yeah Alright, what else you got there chief? We've got a bunch of stuff. I want to get to was important I get a little short clip on North Korea that there was a good little Something that could have if you can queue up yeah Hillary barking like a dog Okay

2:33:14 I think i have that somewhere. Yes, I got that okay North Korea clip. North Korea versus barking dog to North Korea reacting this evening the president Trump's fiery address at the UN The President saying the US may have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea Calling its leader Kim Jong-un a rocket man on his suicide mission tonight North Korea's foreign minister calling those remarks quote the sound of a dog barking and that North Korea is not scared to the strange Hillary Clinton focused on Republicans. Damn it No, I'm sorry no here We'll just pretend that never happened on a suicide mission tonight North Korea's foreign minister calling those remarks quote the sound of a dog barking and that North Korea is Not scared We will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea

2:34:06 Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. Yes, another full clip at the end of today's show. I know right? Now here's a clip that I want to get out of the way because it's being underreported and nobody... in fact this report that i'm going to play is the only time I've heard about this But they're really keeping their lid on this thing. You know, we have the Catalan situation which they're not keeping a lid on and it's gonna be... I think it'll be part of the news and that is not being covered as well as it should We're gonna have to do it but this Kurds thing has not been reported at all What clip am I looking for John? It starts with Kurds with K Oh! I'm sorry here's..I got it here Sorry

2:34:55 The parliament of Iraq's autonomous Kurdish region has voted to hold a referendum on independence due to take place on September the 25th. The plan is opposed by Iraq central government and also neighboring Iran and Turkey they fear independence would fuel separatist movements from within their own Kurdish populations Hmm yeah vote coming out the 25th Yeah well this, this is why I think the guns were not given Oh, that could be. Possibly possibly it is possible because we're pro-kurdish all the way now what is uh What are the Kurds? Let me just look at the map for a second Kurdistan Yeah, Kurdistan Kurdistan Map let's see what shows up okay. Let me just take a look here for a second so they border on

2:35:53 What the hell, people? What do they border on John? Iran and Turkey. And they're in Iraq. Yes, Iraq-Tbilisi right okay hmm I don't know man...I don't know what the game is here Well they gotta get their own country one of these days Yeah but this has been an ongoing struggle yeah for a hundred years We should revisit that story one of these days and go through it again well they got a lot of oil so this isn't not gonna be make anybody happy no All right. Okay, let's play the guy got some short clips I got the flying coach seats is another story that needs to be discussed because it's annoying to you know now yet to pay like we're he's gonna buy a ticket on some of these carriers they have the cramped cramped seats and pay a little extra for an extra inch then you can pay a little extra for an extra two inches in coach oh man they're like ridiculous playing for paying by inch

2:36:52 Yeah, they're paying by the inch. And so here's what's going on there is a bunch of lawsuits about the thought to be flying coach seats For many flying coach has become downright uncomfortable with more passengers squeezed into smaller seats Turns out that may also be putting lives at risk in an emergency Here's transportation correspondent Chris Van Cleve When this American Airlines 767 had an engine fire during takeoff in Chicago in 2016, it took more than two minutes to get everyone off. But according to FAA requirements airline manufacturers have to show they can evacuate a completely full airliner in 90 seconds or less even with half the exits blocked

2:37:36 This Delta flight veered off a snowy runway at New York's LaGuardia Airport in 2015. The impact damaged the on-board communication system and the evacuation took more than 17 minutes And now there is new concern as airlines shrink seats to fit more people on board, passenger safety advocates worry evacuations will take even longer The space between rows has shrunk from as much as 35 inches to 31. In some cases, it's down to just 28 inches even as passengers themselves are getting bigger Do you believe the shrinking of seats is making the flying public less safe? Yes Oh definitely Yeah I do too Well that's all unavoidable That's all part of the big crisis I think they're trying to a soft landing on us

2:38:27 You know as everything starts to go down slowly what just economy everything they need to oh you mean yeah? Well, they need to make keep them make the numbers. They get to put three extra people in the plane Yeah, I mean that whole thing is a joke yes, but yeah, they don't care I picked up an interesting little thing from NPR. There's a lot we can discuss about it, but i thought it was an interesting trend We've talked a lot on this show about alternative paths to the middle class as America's economy changes for a lot of people webcam work is my idea that means bypassing a traditional four-year college degree and its technology plays a bigger and bigger role in the economy some people are enrolling encoding boot camps

2:39:12 For-profit boot camps have sprung up all across the country. They're trying to capitalize on the demand for skilled programmers, but some students see them as a chance to train up for a stable career without that four year college degree Man they're being taken to the cleaners aren't they? Well my son went through one of these and he's very successful Yes And you also took a partnership with the operation started working there for awhile holy crap I stand corrected And what they do, their very expanded prices went way up. The price was always expensive it's a complete to me it's a ripoff

2:39:49 But it's pretty intense. It's like 16 hour work days, they try to get you into the groove to work at Silicon Valley which means your working every day of the week for 16 hours. But also can I ask you a question? I think that when...I'll just call him dudes name Ben and you gotta have a certain gene to be able to do this musicians have it as well I find thats a big crossover between- Its maybe in the same gene Yeah Did he already have that He had a, he might have because he was very into a bunch of kind of crazy programs but he wasn't a coder. He is now but you know the code that they do all these camps do the same thing they teach people JavaScript

2:40:34 And that's kind of the overlooked aspect of this. They don't teach him anything else, at least in these intense camps. He was part of the hack reactor which is one of the top ones on the West Coast but you know these guys they charge 10 grand I think it's up to 15 grand for like two weeks or three weeks or a month...I don't remember how long the course study is It's not like a university. That is quite a lot of money and they give you student loan or whatever? I don't think so. Oh, wow! I don't think your part of that scam but about half the course work is how to get a job. Well... I really like this idea for different reason it gave me an idea

2:41:21 Our ticket out wait stop. Yes, the Dvorak curry curry Dvorak whatever you want to call it advertising podcast boot camp baby Yeah, you got to use the boot camp podcast boot camp yeah Imagine 15 grand a pop and we teach you how to do it how to write the newsletter We show you how to take checks. You're not embarrassed about it? Yes, uncomfortable with it. We really show you everything and then we could have the special... I think we need 10 students. I think they don't have a big class of ten to 20 students

2:42:03 Yes. And then when you leave... Producing podcasts while doing the, taking the course with them? Yes and we give your freedom controller, we give you my settings for your sound and a T-shirt. A T-shirt for sure! Maybe a mug. Hey man start to take it out baby There's a bunch of people if you have to look at from this perspective too there are people that have the money Go to these things. Oh, yeah well look at what they spend on stupid conferences irritate Again the thing is about most of these schools as you get placed Because you have to well we can't place and by the way that's a thing about this be schools all of them Getting into this school is a pain in the ass Okay So he did the reason you get places because you're already predisposed

2:42:59 In other words, you have to pass this very difficult test that shows you have aptitude to actually even do this. Oh we should do the same thing! We should also have a test How's your voice? Yeah Okay here read this into the microphone Now twirl around What color is The White House? We got a very in-depth test here Who's buried in Grant's tomb? The C&D podcast boot camp everybody I'm telling ya I've been looking to make a change in my life, John. You'd be a good teacher! And you know what we could do? Webinars! Webinars! There's nothing goes above a webinar... All right here's the story of the week because people always say well we have a drug problem in this country but nobody gives it- It's almost as though they just

2:43:56 cocaine has been taken off the table. What do you mean? Well, not if you listen to this story This is a story about just off our coast here Uh-huh Three tons! Wow Holy moly The major drug bust of California The Coast Guard chasing down that gray object in the Pacific The submarine like vessel trying to avoid detection Authorities arresting several suspects More than three tons of cocaine found on board worth millions Damn That's because all the politicians are doing it We don't want to stop that I mean, I was watching some...I'm not gonna say who it was but one of the actresses on one of the talk shows late night shows last night. Yeah you're a good identifier when she coked out. Here's her nose in certain way goes after no she but then she's off she's not doing for while Mimi is watching with me and I alerted her

2:44:45 And she says, I don't think so. And then she does a very strange move because I think a lot of these people are very aware of the nose. So they try not to do it? So she doesn't think this is actress. She goes through her mouth like trying to prevent herself from laughing Oh, oh, she closes her mouth. And in the process of taking her hand off of her mouth she takes a thumb and forefinger and gives it to her wife. It comes off of it I said wow there it is! Finally agreed that...and it's an actress who

2:45:23 I think a lot of these actresses are that way. Why won't you say who it is? Because, I think it's borderline libelous. Okay alright. But uh... I'm with ya'. These actresses, a lot of them are shy. Is she British? They're good actresses. What? Was she British? Well, speaking of drugs there was another bust. Four people are charged tonight in one of the biggest drug busts in New York City history you see the pictures it follows raids and Queens and in The Bronx last month at DEA and NYPD found 213 pounds of drugs including fentanyl heroin and cocaine

2:46:04 at an apartment in Kew Gardens. Another 55 pounds of fentanyl and heroin were found in a car in the Bronx just two weeks ago." There's your opioid crisis right there, it's the fentanyl you already said that but this is why they're actually see they're calling it a crisis not because people are overdosing they're overdosing on the other guys dope that's the crisis we got to get them off the fentanyl and back onto ours. And also mailing it from China Right! We need to stop that It's undercutting our business and let's be fair, our business doesn't kill people as easily so we have a better drug. That is why it's called the crisis, the opioid crisis not because you're dying but you've taken the wrong drug. Yeah stick with heroin from the CIA. Well yeah yes

2:46:57 I think isn't coke from the CIA as well or is that now just mainstream? I don't think, you know crack cocaine was invented by the CIA to corrupt Southern California blacks. Yeah good job but i don't know that and i think they've been involved with its distribution and sales but i think they turned it let them sinaloa when these guys just run it because there's too much work done. They do not run distribution of heroin maintain the poppy fields. Well, we should start seeing some anti-fentanyl propaganda pretty soon. I hope so! Because it's a problem is that we need people on our stuff not the Chinese stuff it's cutting into sales yeah and I have one clip there just kind of been in my craw I've been irked about it this Tim Scott as a black senator I think he's the only one that Republicans have in Congress South Carolina maybe and

2:47:53 He's the one who is very critical, he's not very but he's critical of Trump and jumped on him for that white supremacy thing where he said both sides are equal. What his name again? Tim Scott Oh is this the douchebag? They're all douchebags but he's a douchebag yes Who was almost the president of the DNC No, he's a Republican. Oh I'm sorry right? He is also a douchebag Yeah but he is a douche bag. Uh no you're thinking... I know who.. I think of the other guy That Muslim guy Yes I am confused So uh but here what bothers me this just little statement he's bitching and moaning about being harassed as black man and of course this is on the after bunch of this happened right after Seattle football player got

2:48:40 or went to the ground and they handcuffed him. He's bitching and moaning about something because he was running away from a crime scene, and it turned out that he did nothing except run away from a crime scene because he was normal black guy who didn't want to be involved. And so there is this big stink about it in the book. The black Seattle player said that at least three times in your life as a black man you're going to really get close to getting killed by a cop. I mean he said three times. Scott says seven times a year, but here's the interesting thing. Let's play Scott and then I have something to say about this Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina The only African American Republican in the Senate met today with President Trump They talked about the president's response To the racial violence in Charlottesville Virginia last month then the senator talked to chief congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes

2:49:32 I went in there not expecting the change to President's mind. South Carolina's Tim Scott says he was surprised by the reception he got today after all, he came down hard on the president just last month The president is more authority it's compromise After Mr Trump appeared to defend Nazi and Ku Klux Klan marchers in Charlottesville You had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people. My thought was, ouch! And then you think about the singing of torches and the Klan. Did you get the sense that he felt bad about what he had said? He's obviously reflected on what he has said

2:50:17 on his intentions and the perception of those comments. He was certainly very clear that the perception that he received on his comments was not exactly what he intended with those comments." Scott has always been open about the pain of discrimination. In the course of one year, I've been stopped seven times by law enforcement officers. He said he tried to impart that feeling to Mr Trump today. He asked the questions about some other incidences that found African-American men in compromising positions of no fault of their own Did you feel like you changed the president's mindset? The president was very receptive to listening That is a key to understanding Okay

2:51:05 Well, a couple things. You know I'm sure he's sincere in some ways but he is always... He is a politician which he is professionally now as the US Senator. I don't believe he has ever been stopped Have you ever seen that license plate of a U.S. senator? Yes It says US Senator with either a number one or number two and I checked in South Carolina because you can look at all these different plates. That's the plate in South Carolina, it is very clear that says United States Senator 1 or 2 and that plate is... cops do not screw with that there's no way

2:51:44 And in previous jobs where he was in other forms of office, if you're an assemblyman in California State Assembly. You have a big red A on your license plate and if your senator has a big S that means you're a state senator. If it's if you're a congressman says US Congress cops don't pull these people over. What cop pulls over a U.S. Senator to harass him? I think it's bullcrap. Yeah, I agree but at the same time...

2:52:23 in the past, I don't know several months. You and I really don't know what it's like to be a black man in America. No of course not! And these guys do get pulled over and they do bitch about it but I'm not listening this guy complain... No, I'm in agreement This is privilege what he has got Yeah I am talking about any kind of privilege other than having a license plate that says US Senator yeah thats super privileged by the way you can park at a red zone Really? The red zone. My God, I should become a senator! You should. All right... I just thought it- It just irked me to hear that. I understand. I can tell. Well let's leave on a lighter note. A snippet from the eight minutes that's doing the rounds of Lawrence O'Donnell freaking out on his set

2:53:15 You may not have seen this, it's pretty new. No I did not! And uh... and i want to deconstruct this from a television production standpoint just so you understand because im actually going to defend him cause people ya know.. I don't like his show, I dont watch it, I dont like the guy he is a douchebag sometimes he says things that are okay But I didn't want to defend him on this. So he tapes his show, it's not live and what you're seeing if you see the whole thing is He's taping with the SOTs which is sound on tape which means they go full screen-to-video And he's actually doing wraparounds to his toss to Rachel and from an interview that either recorded earlier or probably later and they'll edit that in

2:53:58 And in between, there's all kinds of stuff going on with his earpiece and—well listen. See how that one goes? Thank you Rachel! Well today President Trump visited Texas but he forgot to bring any empathy with him but he did bring a hat A hat that is for sale 58 seconds What's going on why am I losing this Why don't I have sound? Alright, it's back. Someone is pressing buttons and turning my sound off." So this is his IFB, his earpiece. Who was asking for a Labor Day rundown in my ear?! Someone on that control room was out of control! There's insanity in the control room tonight

2:54:40 Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there! Who's got a hammer? Where is it?! I don't know, it sounded different... Where's the hammer!? It sounded different... Is it on the other floor? Go up on the other floor! Somebody go up there and stop the hammering!! STOP THE HAMMERING!!! I'll go down to the goddamn floor myself and stop it! Keep the goddamned commercial break going! Call fucking Phil Griffin, I don't care who the fuck you have to call. Stop the hammering! The woman talking in my ear was talking about the Labor Day special repeatedly every time we went to a SOT. Fucking out of control shit... I don't know why I bother to say how to cut the slots when you don't do it? So now i have to chase those stupid

2:55:32 Goddamn entrails that you allowed him to stick out there. So, that's just a little bit it goes its eight minutes It just goes on and on. Wow this is great! This is better than O'Reilly Well I want to defend him a little bit Because when you do a show, MTV was very similar. Every day we're doing shows and it's really you become a team the cameraman your tight-knit team including those in the control room and the host really Although the director is supposed to keep it together, in these types of recording situations the host really makes it all work and makes up really for the mistakes that are... The technical glitches. Oh God shoot myself! You said it! I'm gonna kill myself For technical F-ups, I was gonna say f-ups then for some reason I changed my mind stupidly sorry this really bad I apologize. You don't have to apologize It's just the word of the day

2:56:31 And you get mad, you know and every everybody gets mad sometimes You know this it's not like he is the dictator of all dictators is what happens like? You know, but you're on a team and you yell at each other. Sometimes It's very normal in this type of television production So I just want to say he's not a total dick for doing this Especially if there's even a studio you're trying to record you got hammering going on I did exactly the same thing and people would MTV would say oh yeah sure Everyone freaked out from time to time. You're also performing! It's difficult if you got someone talking in your ear, you've got the wrong channel on your IFB. I have never had that happen! Now...I've never freaked out. I had this situation I talked about on the show before which i could have blown up over although it was during a live show where we'd go to break and it was coincidental with Leo who is doing his show at another studio going to break and as soon as he went to break I started hearing his director

2:57:28 in my ear as I'm trying to talk to somebody. And then so, what's going on? They said nothing. Yeah! I mean not just I'm not hearing our booths but I am hearing somebody else And they said, well I don't know. And then it went away because they did something go back to the show or something and it went away so that looks like its cleared up okay another break boom there is again these guys yacking at me and this by wen on for most of the show and would always cover come a little bit into the shows are was like hearing somebody while trying to read from a prompter

2:58:09 I don't know. I didn't blow up over it, I just thought it was weird. Well but you...I don't think you were actually well with that every day? You were working with a team doing that same team no that wasn't happening except at one time anyway so I just give him a little bit yeah the guy's a dick I think he's a dick and everyone should go listen to The 8 Minutes and then go listen O'Reilly is another one but the O'Riley clip was from like 30 years ago now this is last week yes big difference all right everybody Alright everybody, thank you very much for listening on the live stream and for subscribing to our podcast which we explain all about in day two of the Curry Dvorak Podcast Bootcamp. Get ready to sign up for it. It surprises people who actually volunteer Yeah I'll do it! I wanna be a podcaster That's right You get a button too It's the future! It is Welcome to the future

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