Episode 950 · Friday, 28 July 2017

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A sudden military policy shift via Twitter ignites a firestorm as the political establishment and intelligence community weigh the possibility of an executive branch rebellion.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 950

About this episode

President Donald Trump sparked a national firestorm by announcing a ban on transgender individuals serving in the U.S. military via Twitter, citing concerns over medical costs and unit disruption. The move drew immediate condemnation from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, while Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham criticized the President for bypassing formal legislative procedures. The policy shift has ignited a debate over the actual number of active-duty transgender personnel, with data from Bloomberg and the Williams Institute showing discrepancies ranging from hundreds to tens of thousands.

In a week of high-stakes political maneuvering, former CIA Director John Brennan suggested at the Aspen Security Forum that executive branch officials should defy orders if Special Counsel Robert Mueller is fired, a statement framed here as a potential call for a domestic coup. Meanwhile, the arrest of House IT staffer Imran Awan at Dulles International Airport on bank fraud charges has raised questions about his access to Democratic National Committee emails under Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson joins to detail the findings of her book Smear, alleging that CBS News and organizations funded by George Soros, such as Media Matters, have engaged in coordinated efforts to pre-determine news outcomes and silence figures like Glenn Beck.

The 950th episode celebration features a deep dive into the legacy of Ross Perot, including a first-hand account of a 1994 visit to the EDS headquarters in Plano and Perot’s early predictions for smart home technology. The concept of Dimension R is introduced to explain the psychological state of disillusioned listeners who seek constant conflict on platforms like Reddit. From the European Union’s threats against Poland’s judicial reforms to Hawaii’s renewed duck-and-cover missile drills, the report captures a global landscape defined by institutional overreach and the Big Eyeball Affliction of the tech elite.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

Beta-Glucan Supplement, Macrophage Activity Discussion

One of the hosts presents a bottle of Beta 1,3/1,6 D-Glucan purchased at a health food store sale. The discussion covers the supplement's purported role in immune support and the stimulation of macrophage activity. They compare the marketing of such health products to those sold by outlets like InfoWars.

beta-glucan· macrophages· immune support· supplements· health food store

00:00 Mueller. Mueller! Mueller? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday July 27th 2017 This is your award winning Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 and 5-0 This is no agenda Discovering new dimensions to test your amygdala. And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in the capital of the drone star state, downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio In The Morning I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm holding a bottle of beta 1 3 slash one 6 D glue can under milligrams Alright man, what's in the bottle? Tell us all about the bottle. It is Beta 1 3 slash 16 D glue can. What is that for it was on sale I don't know what it's like hey it's on sale I might as well get it you're one of those people. It wasn't a health food store big pile of stuff on sale and I saw this when

01:02 What the hell is this? And it doesn't really tell you what it is, of course. Because it'd probably be illegal to tell you what it is and so I bought it was like five bucks. What is it supposed to do? What does its proclaimed effect? Well, it has a little... what's it say on here? It says hold on a second. Just had a pair of glasses to read this. Probably the same stuff that InfoWars sells just in different package Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. All that stuff comes from the same factory. Well, I'll tell you what it's for at least the best that I can. It starts but which says immune support so it's got something to do with that supports and modulates immune

01:45 some protection mm-hmm stimulates Macrophage activity excellent Yes, those macrophages. I really have that's a I have a commercial later for tech news That they'll blow your mind with what was that term we got to write that down or is it? macro phage activity macro phase Yeah, phase phases are these crazy Things that like they're like fleas For bacteria they get big kill bacteria mmm, so basically it's bleach is what you're saying. Yes bleach Well maybe yeah bleach never know but anyway It comes from some crazy stuff and it's got some mushroom stuff in it too I don't know what its supposed to be you take one Mushroom stuff nice. Yeah very nice

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump Transgender Military Ban, Media Reaction

President Donald Trump announced via Twitter that transgender individuals would no longer be permitted to serve in the U.S. military, citing medical costs and disruption. The hosts analyze the media's framing of the announcement and the lack of vocal protest from other segments of the LGBTQ community. They contrast Trump's campaign promise to protect citizens from "hateful foreign ideologies" with the current policy shift.

donald trump· transgender· military policy· pentagon· nancy pelosi

02:39 Alright, I think we should start today with transgender news. Well, you know, I could have put together the long openings all the networks did... everybody started their news with this. Yeah, actually grabbed ABC's piece as a backgrounder which was long But yeah, I want to hear that but after you're done. I want you to play the backgrounder I've collected from local media Okay We'll play this one because there's a couple of interesting things in here and everyone... This gives people what the story is They never listen to the news so they want to hear what this news is I'm just about to launch into it So in the middle of

03:22 you know, all kinds of stuff going on including a budget that was trying to be passed or that is going to be passed. All of the sudden the president tweets and love it and there'll be no transgendered Americans in the military because of the cost and what was the exact quote? It came down to enormous costs I think that's kind of the way he angled it And it was very odd to see a couple of things happen. One, people lost their shit as usual. Interestingly you don't hear much from the L's or the G's or the B's Or even the Q's

04:12 And I love this because i can finally point out the fact that the LGBT community is bullshit. There's no lesbians and gays standing up for the transgendered, No one saying THAT'S AN OUTRAGE! Uh-uh. Straight people are, lots of straight people. Well if you listen to the news they are... Straight people but not lesbians and gays. No but if you listened to the news the way they couch it everybody's against this and I want to point out a couple little minor tidbits one this only went into allowing transgenders into the military Only began in June 2016. Well, so it has a July I think was July and it wasn't even implemented if they didn't even start it No That's this part two of this day with it was actually the by room It was June but the don't reason I say that because I was watching just watching a clip of dog face They old head of the Defense Department Yeah And it said underneath him, you know

05:09 2016, maybe it wasn't fully in play. But it wasn't implemented because Matt has kind of stalled on it and the number of transgenders that are in the military already between 15 and 50 thousand they don't seem to know I think just kinda snuck in one way or another. Yeah well...I just thought it was very interesting on the face bags Everywhere I looked, and I went looking. I did not see lesbians, gays, bisexuals or queers standing up and saying this is an outrage for our community. Uh-uh! So let's just stop that once and for all. And when it is the gays turn, trust me the lesbians and transgenders are not going to stand up for them. Can we just for once and for all stop with this bull crap LGBTQ community? Because its not a community! And people who are LGBTQ should be outraged they're lumped together like that all of the time! Ugh

06:02 And let's have some equality. If transgendered people can't be in the military, neither can straight people." As a candidate Donald Trump promised to protect gay lesbian and transgender rights The first nominee ever to make such a promise That is actually not what he said! That is not what he promised Did you know that? That everyone's just spouting off about what... They have played his clip a couple of times in some of the networks and it was slightly different. It's very different, in fact You could view it And I can already see people going... You could view as if he is doing exactly what he promised As a candidate Donald Trump promised to protect gay lesbian and transgender rights The first nominee ever to make such a promise at a Republican convention

06:48 As your president, I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology. That has nothing to do with LGBTQ rights? No, it's just talking about keeping the Muslims away. No he's saying keeping them safe and how do you keep people safe- Keeping them safe from no but he specifically... He doesn't specifically say anything but I think he specifically was talking about the Muslims that were throwing people off the roofs. That's exactly what he is saying, again... So listen to him! Hateful foreign ideology! Believe me! Believe me? So you keep them safe by not putting them in the army

07:40 Well, that's a very... I'm just saying you could view it that way. It was a nice twist. When i heard the clip like he didn't promise to protect their rights? He promised to keep them safe from the Muslims! Actually ISIS in particular and here's a funny thing by the way Obama would do that and everyone be like no damnit he got us again dammit okay well your right Now, Mimi was talking to me about this and the first thing I said is that since when? Since this is just a liberal outrage. In fact my clip includes Nancy Pelosi going completely out of control since when did the liberals in the left sense winner they pro military and pro war that they give a crap about this week ago

08:31 That what also was, and I got more to this report obviously. Also interesting was the number of transgendered people in our military currently all over the map right? But today, a sudden reversal. The president surprising even his own top advisors with a major change in military policy announced via Twitter. Please be advised he declared the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the US military our military cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruptions that transgender in the military would entail.

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Military Budget Negotiations, Transgender Service Member Statistics

Speculation arises regarding a potential deal involving the border wall budget and the transgender ban. The hosts examine conflicting data from Bloomberg and the Williams Institute regarding the actual number of transgender personnel currently serving, noting that estimates range wildly from 250 to over 15,000. They compare the statistical extrapolations used in these studies to those found in climate change reporting.

pentagon· bloomberg· williams institute· military budget· border wall

09:12 So that was his tweet as far as I know, that's accurate. The cost for sure disruptions, I guess but overall the military which is a fighting machine kills people it's not a social experiment so what i'm okay you know it's like whatever you want to do but you're right it's like this oh now everyone has to be in the middle we should have uh you know 12 year olds should be able to get anybody can get in the military I mean where where do we draw the lines Where do we draw them? Well, the Pentagon directed all questions to the White House making it clear the change came from the president himself. And see what I heard is this is the way it's being so I don't know if you've seen this anywhere. I didn't get any clips or any reports about it that were usable for the show Is he wanted- The President wanted his border wall budget Or uh... The money for it within the budget that was in the house I believe

10:10 And someone did a back-end deal said okay, here's what we're gonna do you want that well Then you have to stop the the transgendered in the military And that's why it was kind of snuck in. And now the Pentagon is, I'm sure they were very aware of this like oh just ask the president we're too chicken shit to say it ourselves but think that's what happened We will continue to work closely with The White House To address the new guidance provided by The Commander-in-Chief But The White House couldn't provide answers to the most basic questions Oh! They are so stupid What happens to transgender service members now? Are they immediately thrown out of the military? That's something that the Department of Defense and the White House will have to work together as implementation takes place and is done so lawfully.

11:01 Yeah. What network was this? This is ABC. Okay, yeah and you're... They also do this crap they couldn't answer the most basic question and then they asked a question and they answered it! Gave an answer said the answer is you have to talk somebody else No actually the answer was they're working on it It's a basic question. There was a question and it was answered, how did they not... How is this not able to answer? They may first day set the set this up as if they're gonna ask you a question that person goes oh I don't know! Well here's the bothersome thing and its coming up next is how many transgendered military personnel there are currently Bloomberg reported on some study

11:46 It's a study. Actually, it's crazy... let me get this for you the way they describe that I mean somewhere someone I presume has A list isn't there a list somewhere of how many men women and other are in the military? Someone's got to have a list No No. Well, here it is. Here's how Bloomberg and I think you'll hear something similar but the numbers are all over the place. I've heard 256. I've heard 15,000 15,500 for 12,000 for 1500. I've heard 2500 no thousand here it is a 20 this is Bloomberg A 2014 study estimated that 15,500 trans people were currently serving in the US military and here's how they came up to their numbers which interesting

12:31 The Williams Institute, think tank of UCLA School of Law that researches gender identity came to that figure using a 2011 survey of 6,546 transgender Americans. Around 20% of that survey's respondents said they had served in the armed forces That would be around 1,300. There are currently 1.3 million active duty personnel in the U.S military and an additional 800 thousand in reserves using various extrapolations based on population estimates and rates of service for men and women. The Williams researchers concluded that 8800 people were in active duty another 6700 were in the National Guard and US Army Reserve

13:12 At trans people, the Williams Report suggests might even join the military at a higher rate than other groups. This is exactly almost identical to the methodology you use for climate change... To determine how many people listen to a podcast! Exactly. Pony up advertisers, lots of people! Patient takes place and is done so lawfully A study commissioned last year by the Pentagon estimates there are roughly 2500 transgender service members on active duty Now how does it... So we have all these different numbers I have 1515 thousand five hundred two hundred fifty six this was what? How many did you say He said 2500. It's pretty obvious that nobody knows, nobody knows that's yeah okay

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Lindsey Graham, John McCain Criticize Trump's Twitter Policy Announcement

Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain expressed disapproval of President Trump's decision to announce major military policy changes via Twitter. The hosts critique news organizations for framing these procedural complaints as opposition to the policy itself. They highlight the disconnect between the senators' desire for formal hearings and the media's portrayal of their stance.

lindsey graham· john mccain· cbs news· twitter· military policy

14:00 One of them, Air Force Staff Sergeant Logan. Just showing the military might you know we always got to slip in a couple of kabooms. Ireland profiled in a New York Times documentary while he was serving in Afghanistan There's not a lot of people that know that I'm transgender it is very much on need-to-know basis Today responding to the president staff sergeant Ireland said I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military I would challenge them in court, you are not going to deny me my right to serve my country when i am fully qualified and able and willing to give my life. The new policy and how it was announced was quickly criticized by fellow Republicans in Congress. I want a strong vibrant military but I want to be fair the best way to do this is have hearing not tweet. It's a lie! This is a lie what the guy just said listen listen what he says

14:53 Republicans in Congress. Hold on a second, roll back a little more here we go Lindsey Graham you know The new policy and how it was announced was quickly criticized by fellow Republicans in Congress Now tell me what the criticism is here I want a strong, vibrant military but i want to be fair and the best way to do this is have a hearing not a tweet. So he didn't criticize the policy as was just said... He didn't criticize anything! Well he criticized the delivery mechanism. He didn't criticize the actual policy This is really disturbing. Yes it's disturbing. Does CBS does this? All three of the networks pull this crap constantly You're right It's very disturbing This isn't this is a big news organization

15:34 blatantly lying to you. And the president's most prominent transgender supporter, Caitlyn Jenner retweeted Trumps own words from the campaign. Thank you to the LGBT community I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs. Jenner is now asking what happened to your promise to fight for them? man. Again, it goes back to the clip you had at the very beginning which is the promise to keep them safe. Yes, yes save your promise to fight for them all right so let's get to John Carlisle stop a second now it seems to me

16:12 that a news organization like this, which is just twisting and twisting the facts. You think they'd get a lot more attention because everybody else is doing exactly the same thing especially CBS? And you think they would get a lot more intention by actually analyzing what they have in front of them and doing what you just did with say Trump never said that Trump said this, you play the Trump clip if they didn't do that but they never analyzed it What is wrong with these guys Well, I have some thoughts. I don't know if they're a part of it but I have discovered the third dimension well and we'll talk about that in a moment because i think there's a third dimension people are slipping in and out of maybe it has something to do with this but this to me seems more like total dimension A just you know just they hear Lindsey Graham say something

17:06 About the tweet and then that somehow that translates into he criticized the policy I believe they actually heard so whoever wrote the script Really heard Graham criticizing the policy. And this is the Cognitive are they deaf? No, it's if they hear what they want to hear This is really happening It's disturbing that it's gone to this level of news though happened your promise to fight for them All right, so let's get to John Carl live at the White House tonight. And John first you had the Pentagon today saying if you have questions ask the White House Tonight you've now learned that the house and senate armed services committees did not know anything about this either

17:47 David, the move caught the leaders of those committees completely by surprise. The chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee Senator John McCain called the president's tweet unclear and then he said this there is no reason to force service members who are able to fight train and deploy to leave the military regardless of their gender identity So again, I find it interesting that nowhere do I hear. I don't see gays and lesbians Organizing making a big deal for their brothers and sisters of the of the team part portion of their community That to me is is the thing that is most telling about all this in the rest fine It is what it is Let's listen to the local report alright this is

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, Leon Panetta React to Transgender Ban

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi condemned the transgender military ban as an "act of cowardice." Local news reports from San Francisco and Santa Cruz featured reactions from former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and local activists. The discussion touches on the costs associated with gender reassignment surgeries for active-duty personnel.

nancy pelosi· leon panetta· san francisco· lgbtq· gender reassignment

18:39 Trans ban? Trans Ban Local I think it says. Yeah, I got it Good evening everyone! I'm Erin Clark Dan Green is off tonight We are beginning tonight with a major blow to the transgender community Nice good one slip that one in like it very good script writer Tonight we are beginning tonight with a major blow to the transgender community President Trump tweeting today transgender individuals can no longer serve in the military. He says the military should focus on victories and should not be burdened with the medical costs and disruption of transgender service members." These four prominent Republican senators, including John McCain are criticizing the move reaction from Democrats and the LGBT community. President Trump has chosen this day

19:33 This is Nancy Pelosi, the notorious lesbian? She apparently is the representative. Of the lesbian community, yes LGBT yeah well maybe she is who knows you could be telling the truth President Trump has chosen this day to commit an act of cowardice it was a cowardly act The way he did and especially what he did On this day to unleash a vile, hateful agenda that will blindside thousands of patriotic Americans already serving with honor and bravery.

20:12 White House says President arrived at the decision after talking with his generals and military staff. Pentagon told The Associated Press in June that roughly 250 service members have applied to change their gender in the military's personnel system It is believed there are anywhere between 1,500 and 15,000 active-duty transgender service members and here locally, former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta weighing in as did the LGBT community in Santa Cruz. Now here's a thing that I caught my eye besides Pelosi was this 250 active duty members want to change their gender on the fly which means I think the government has to pay for that yes which I believe is part of the reason that this happened That's exactly what what the policy tweet was all about

21:05 It's too expensive and it's disruptive. Yeah, because that is kind of disruptive and it is expensive. It's like I don't know how much but it's a lot. Tens of thousands of dollars yeah And um...I get the sense- I'm not sure completely what Trump- how Trump works but I get the sense one of the things with him is like this A bunch of stuff comes up and he doesn't want to deal with it then he says okay we'll just stop doing that No more transgenders in the military. It's just easier, that ends all these questions. Yes it is possible well there are a lot of medical reasons which that just makes the debate even worse of course when you say its a medical reason There are lots of medical reasons why you cannot even be in the military You know if you have stomach gastritis If you have irritable bowel syndrome Obviously hepatitis would be a bad one

22:07 or persistent anal fistula. I mean, it seems like that sounds bad by the way. Something you don't want? No dental issues. There's a lot of reasons why you're not admitted into the military. But they're making such a big stink and Pelosi again another Democrat going on and on about military service when i was a kid when i was a democrat... When you were a tranny I was not a tranny, but I was a Democrat which is similar. Oh man! Sorry. You set me up with that. We have a lot of Democratic listeners and so... But it was anti-military yeah anti war anti military was just it wasn't the question about it one way or the other we're just no this is bad we don't want to small military wanna cut back you know need all these bombs who wanna kill everybody

23:05 But no, that changed. Again I would just like to see... Just give me the T part of the LGBT community where they're outspoken and protesting No one seems to really be bothered! Well actually in that report- I didn't give you the whole report but there was a couple of gays at the end bitching Gays or lesbians? Or transgendered? There were lesbians and I think there was a transsexual I have not seen any of that. The only... Well, local reporting around here there's plenty of that. It's not as if it does not exist. Everybody in San Francisco is part of the LGBTQ community. Oh it's not fair! And I hear transgender people saying where is everybody? So you can't be silent on this issue and they get their met with silence

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

Jared Kushner Voice Criticism, LGBTQ Community Social Media Backlash

Following Jared Kushner's public statement regarding the Russia investigation, social media users and LGBTQ publications like The Advocate commented on his high-pitched voice. The hosts review various tweets that mock Kushner's masculinity and appearance. The segment also briefly mentions Ivanka Trump's public image and past appearance.

jared kushner· ivanka trump· the advocate· social media· masculinity

23:51 Just while we're on this topic, or kind of on this topic. What the LGBT community did speak out about very vocally on the tweeters and on the face bags is Jared Kushner when he came out and said well hey you know I'm sorry I spoke to the committee didn't collude with Russia And if you hear Jared Kushner, well here's the tweets. Gay is a tree full of chickadees! Oh yes. Oh yeah. See I missed this because of course I'm not on the bag. Everywhere people... So now the facebag, the liberal facebag with all its self-righteousness and it's holy now attitude is calling Kushner out as gay? Yep

24:45 And the advocate actually wrote, it was an op-ed in The Advocate about how wrong this is. And you see here the author says... is that they brought back painful childhood memories of being bullied and harassed relentlessly for having a lighter, higher voice that didn't neatly comport with our culture's rigid arbitrary and erroneous definitions of masculinity. I learned the meaning of the words sissy and faggot when they were thrown at me on the elementary school playground by classmates making fun of my voice." And he says himself this is crazy! Why are you doing this?

25:27 Why are you doing exactly what you're accusing? Well, that's the Dutch proverb. You kind of notice Kushner's voice is in a higher octave he's kind of a soprano. No no look the dude is completely creepy! He's not THAT bad... He's completely creepy to look at when he's talking. He looks like a plasticine figure. Come on I think he's creepy. I don't think I've seen him talk that much. No this is the point so when he finally came out and started talking then then the LGBT community is ohhh he's so gayyyy! Huh. What do you think? Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying. Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound super fucking gay and these are from gays And this, you're reading it from the Facebook Yeah No, I'm reading from this article that has some tweets in there yes

26:21 Some insulted Kushner's anatomy. Dude is a eunuch, somebody fucked up that circumcision! That's actually a good twofer I like that a lot because you get Jew stuff and you get to slam him for being a wimp Good Kushner is an important reminder that you can't buy puberty After hearing Jared's voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes. See this is what they're angling out. There we go! Yeah there it is. This is a roundabout way of getting at her because she seems untouchable but we'd love to just get first of all one get rid of her And quit falling all over yourselves because of Ivanka being so pretty. And then, of course there's that old picture which showed up...which I put in the newsletter a couple rounds ago when I put all those photos in. A picture of her before her facelifts, I assume and then a picture of her today and she had a big kind of a honker. She didn't have really a lot of delicate features let's put it that way. Two more

27:22 Why Jared Kushner always seem like he low-key looking at your dick from one urinal over. And as expected, he sounds if his month in months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery now this is just the kind of stuff that goes on Very, you know everybody's a comedian on these social networks. Which brings me to dimension R I've noticed this and this has a little bit to do with some recent tweet stuff and some emails it actually started with the guy who you blocked who was a... we talked about in the last show like oh I can't believe you don't know how an air conditioner works

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Dimension R, Disillusioned Listener Psychology

The hosts define "Dimension R," a psychological state where individuals—often on platforms like Reddit—become so conditioned for conflict that they attack those who actually agree with them. They discuss the prevalence of "snark" and the tendency of disillusioned listeners to demand activism from the show. The concept is framed as an affliction of the disenfranchised who seek constant opposition.

reddit· dimension r· snark· trolling· psychology

27:59 Did you follow that whole thing or did you block him on email? I didn't, here's what happened. I said i was gonna block him but I didn't because his tweets seemed to be okay. Generally speaking he doesn't seem like a lunatic and so I didn't block him and then he came back with some insult! You know, if you guys don't apologize. I forgot what it was but i thought It was just a threat in an instant then I blocked him so I have not heard from this guy since. Okay so you didn't see the email thread? You blocked him from... because then he sent that long email and then I jumped in and said Yeah Long story short. Here's what I here's what I've recognized So he wound up saying hey, man. I'm really sorry. I had this snarkiness to my character It's a flaw and working on it yeah Well yeah That was the that was the only thing we pointed out from the from the beginning Was you why the snark and this is where I'm coming up with this odd dimension which people move in and out of? I'm calling it dimension are for number like for our

28:57 Oh, R because it's very prevalent on the Reddit but also retarded and snark. Okay. Mkay? Okay, so here's the number one thing that happens when someone is in dimension R. And there was a guy who emailed me and he was right off the bat F you screw you moron you idiot! He said we were too stupid to know that the hatreon site was a joke And that we took it seriously, and I went back and I listened to that segment. I'm like if we really were making a joke out of it Remember it well was patreon was you know? Yeah, and Then he's like your migrant coverage of Europe is completely stupid You should stop reading 4chan only I read for Jan. I don't think so

29:50 And, you know... if you really want to know what's going on and he sends me a PDF with the Calgary... Calergy plan that we talked about extensively for almost two episodes. You know the plan into... To bring in... to make everyone kind of like a brown Egyptian light color all over Europe? Remember when we discussed this plan in detail? Yeah that was awhile ago No it was 255! Yeah It was only four shows ago You said 255. I meant 955, I'm sorry 954... It can't be 955 we're at 950 today! Ah 45 okay in the middle of a story you bogging me down with details Smalls 245 Okay so only... You said 245 again Nine, I mean insane! But you are! 945 I don't know what's going on 945

30:44 And extensively we discussed this. So I sent him that, and said but you know dude i don't know why you're yelling at me but we talked about this exactly what you're spewing off in my face so you don't even listen. A lot of these guys don't listen. But this is the thing even when here's what dimension r is... Dimension R person will look at you will listen to what you have to say, and even if you are in complete agreement with their viewpoint... If you're returning to them their actual views they will think that you're against them. And it goes on for a cycle or like two three cycles and they just don't realize ...if you would listen because they're so conditioned

31:31 that anyone saying anything has got to be wrong. And this is where the snark then comes from, these are the snark people who have to make some kind of unfunny joke it's a very very strange place where these people live and I've seen it now three times in the past two days where I am saying exactly what this person believes in whether I believe in it or not and they hear something the exact opposite. They hear a controversy in what you're saying And it's an affliction. It's very, very odd and you can break through it You go through the cycles with him then oh okay well yeah my dog died I had a flat tire No I've seen this where the guy comes at you with something and then you say I didn't say that Go back and listen again! And I don't come here to be personally insulted I always throw that out there Yeah And they come back...you're right The same way Oh my dog died I'm sorry

32:33 mean that I don't know what I was thinking. It's very strange and, and I believe it is a state that people when when, when... And I think it happens to B or A people they just need to fight! They just need to have some kind of uh.. What is the word? I'm looking for some opposition they want they're just looking for an opponent for anything which is why they just hang out on Reddit yes well of course number one reason And, again it's across the spectrum. The political spectrum and the belief spectrum I think they're disenfranchised. I think they're truly disenfranchised no matter what it is you not doing enough, you doing too little, you wrong... It's all wrong!

33:18 And I think that... It's all wrong. Yes! And in that group, there is also an element of that is the people who come at you with why don't you recommend something? Why don't you tell us what to do? Yeah. Why don't you become more of an activist and why don't you tell us what to do seems to be a key which is we don't want to tell you what to do. It's not what we do. We're not here to tell people what to do, we're just here to break down stuff and say hey this is screwed up so you can do whatever you want But what happens is that's when they could, that's I don't know if that is complete dimension R when you tell us what to do. But the incessant need for opposing feedback somehow and that's where the snark comes from because you know it's...you could call it trolling but it's a little different than that these are the disenfranchised these are things are the disillusioned. I think disillusioned for sure yeah disillusioned everybody's disenfranchised if you're going to be objective about it

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Sharyl Attkisson, Smear Book, CBS Editorial Interference

Investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson discusses her book "Smear" and her experiences with editorial interference at CBS News. She alleges that the network would pre-determine the conclusions of stories and the specific quotes needed from interviewees. The hosts use her testimony to explain why modern news packages often feature clips that do not actually support the reporter's assertions.

sharyl attkisson· cbs news· smear· eric wemple· media bias

34:23 Explain I mean what power do you have? zero you disenfranchised I Have one vote one vote of power is what I have John one vote just water. Yeah, yeah But it's okay so we'll just say disillusioned and in fact the What I have a couple of clips that I've got coming up with Cheryl Atkinson who on the early part of the month was interviewed for her new book Smear. She was interviewed on Book TV. Alright, let's do it now! And the reason I, well if we're going to do it now. I do want to mention that when we discussed the last clip that you had where you thought they were hearing the wrong things You said oh i think they're hearing the wrong thing and no this is a blatant lie This is not as though their hearing the wrong things and I wanna play this clip To kind of back myself up and this is smear book intro I don't necessarily work in business at all ever again because I didn't really see a place based on

35:25 my friends and contacts that I could go and do the kind of reporting expected to be able to do that they would want, right? And then i would be unfettered. So this opportunity came up out of the blue they created a program with the promise of editorial freedom. It's Sunday morning 930, right? Right depending on where you are. Yes. And so far no editorial interference. I run my stories through a normal editorial process of lawyers in ethics review like I did at CBS which was voluntary by the way it CBS didn't require but I did Here we have a similar process, but there has been no editorial interference trying to shape my stories. Nothing like at CBS at the end they told you what they wanted your interviewees to say and what the facts oughta show before you even gathered them." Oh nice!

36:09 She went off and did her own thing, she also claims to have been hacked by our government. She has a lot of claims. She has a lot of complaints. She was with CBS. Now she said that they tell you what they want They tell you what clips they want you to get of somebody saying a certain thing and then they will want You to conclude a certain thing that they want now going back to that ABC report where we caught two examples Of the guy saying well, he criticized the president and then you play in it. Then within his own package. You're right He doesn't criticize the president exactly this to me is an example of what she just said? She had to had to have that That was that was the message and he had to find a clip and that's the best he had

36:54 Or whoever put the producer, I'm sure he didn't put the package together. Whoever put the package together? Yeah. I buy that. And so that's why I keep catching this if you haven't noticed because I'm trying to catch as much as I can on CBS and ABC and NBC where they guys make an assertion and then they provide the example of the assertion and the example is... it doesn't back it up at all! It works though. I blame MTV for that, we learned how to distract people from reality a long time ago. Well you do that with lots of tricks. Somebody wrote a book on it so she wrote a book on the smear thing and this guy named Wimple he's uh he's this Wimple character i didn't know about this is Eric Wimple

37:44 Media critic for the WAPO. And he apparently was in the book called out as a smear artist or one of the WAPO smear artists and so, he was combative the whole interview and he ruined the interview I condemn C-SPAN for putting this interview on with this guy because he wrecked it The interview sucked because he was just criticizing her That's exactly why they put it on Look you suck we're gonna put that all on the air Now, well maybe. Whatever the case... when I say that. She had a bunch of very interesting, apparently the book Smear is about mostly or not mostly but she has examples of different smears and then she goes after Media Matters and the guy who runs it who's a famous very famous smear artist and her definition is smeared sometimes different than this guy kept arguing with what smear meant but let's listen to a couple, I got two clips

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump Access Hollywood Tape, Media Amplification

The hosts and Sharyl Attkisson discuss the 2005 Access Hollywood tape featuring Donald Trump and Billy Bush. Attkisson argues that while the tape was real, its hyper-speed circulation and characterization constituted a smear campaign. The hosts debate the "horrific" nature of the recording, comparing it to private locker-room bragging common among certain men.

donald trump· billy bush· access hollywood· media matters· privacy

38:46 This is the first one here, is this guy on... this Trump clip where they were Billy Bud or whatever it was. Billy Bush? Bush, Billy Bush and I can't remember his name They come off the bus and they're illegal...I consider this a violation of privacy And it is..I found that very offensive that they even had this thing in that they were holding and there's NBC I guess has it This is the grabber by the pussy thing Grabbed by the pussy and so this guy Wimple And I want to talk about this grab them by the pussy and this private conversation between two dorks after we play this particular clip.

39:33 The horrific clip. And you say that is, if I'm not mistaken, you say that's the mother of all smears. How is that a smear? Was it that or was there two that I highlighted including The New York Times article about all the women he had mistreated? The women came out afterwards and said they were misquoted and mischaracterized in the article

40:11 So maybe also this was grouped under that heading. Because again, that was an amplified incident the same sort of behavior... What was amplified about the tape? I mean it's just the tape was played. I just mean amplified it was really broadly circulated and sent around in hyper speed fashion by all the people who oppose the candidates interests. And so another true smear Yeah, I mean it was rooted in truth obviously. Even the president didn't seem to take issue with the words that he spoke The way it was characterized and spread and used People didn't just report that this happened It took on a life of its own as you saw on the news with people demanding all kinds of things

41:00 Happen and that it was the worst thing that had ever you know happened on the planet, and then he must not be awful though I mean wasn't it just objectively horrific. It was it was very negative. I don't think anybody is arguing the opposite I think anybody ever argued the opposite now this guy Horrific would you call a horrific? Yes? I have a PTSD from it Yeah, this is what I mean. It's like it was a tape of very like a surreptitious recording of two guys and one of them just obviously braggart. You've run into guys like this? Yeah! And I typically don't like these guys. I hate these guys. They're annoying

41:46 Yeah, they're annoying. Oh yeah got her in the corner and I'm reminded of this of the air pollution When I was at the air pollution dis we have a get we had a guy who? I won't name him but he was one of these guys He was exactly like this is always talking about his victory It's a good-looking guy could have bad if you conquests But all he did was brag about his conquest and all the rest of it and one time We were at, actually I wasn't at this. I was told this by one of his friends who said you can't believe half the stuff this guy says and then he told a story about where Gus is the guys name, first name. Gus was in this restaurant

42:29 He's starting to make a pass at one of the waitresses and she calls him out on it says hey I'm five minutes away from my break. My trailer is parked right in the parking lot Let's go And he just folded yeah Yeah, that shut him up in that restaurant. He would never do say anything and in there again But this is the kind of guy who does it and took and to be so naive That you call it awful and horrific as if this doesn't happen well There's some It's pathetic yeah Well I do notice that

43:08 We will watch comedy specials. I'm just saying general we as a population, we'll watch television shows where everything is discussed, everything is funny, everything is snarky, everything is really off color you know the jokes left and right but for some reason we want to hold our politicians and our elected representatives to a quote higher standard than we have apparently certainly in the United States And the public standard is different than the private standard with these guys. But it's, but it's right? Yes. And so now they take a private conversation in other words if you started taking the- Thank you. Surreptitiously taking private conversations with any of these people or Hillary for that matter Yeah You'd get this sort of thing Exactly So how was this guy This Wimple guy It's so high and mighty that he makes all these assertions Well He got a boom deal

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

Glenn Beck, George Soros, Media Matters Smear Campaign

Sharyl Attkisson details how Media Matters, allegedly funded by a million-dollar donation from George Soros, successfully campaigned to remove Glenn Beck from Fox News. The hosts note that since being "taken out," Beck has largely stopped his signature diagrams connecting Soros to global events. They discuss the power of heavy hitters to silence media figures.

glenn beck· george soros· media matters· fox news· the blaze

44:05 It's unbelievable. He was very annoyed by this interview. I can tell! Let's go back to the last clip and this is their discussion of how Glenn Beck was taken out, and some of the details are probably new to people. Huge success story using 100% true evidence to do so. Stop stop let me... Stop, let me- By using 100% true evidence? Is that what he said? That's what he said. Now this guy here is the assertion he keeps making throughout the interview He will not accept her definition of smear. He uses a dictionary definition of smear which is to use falsehoods

44:44 to ruin somebody's reputation, more or less is the dictionary definition. And she's not talking in those terms and so what he says that anything that's true can't be used as a smear and he keeps arguing with her about this. So you could put together a lot of true facts and make it into a campaign that she considers to be a smear campaign. You could say he has horrible orange hair! Yeah there ya go That's a smear campaign But it's true. Anyway, he is very combative about this and he is also adenoidal which really bothers me. He talks to the kind of... Is he gay by any chance? I think he hates women

45:29 Well he does definitely hates her. He might be, I don't know. I didn't even think about that but i do know he's adenoidal which is that... Stop right there! Sorry to go astray we got an email from Annie Breglia And she says, I'm a douchebag listener who has not yet contributed to your efforts. The day may come. I am finding your work increasingly valuable. I'm a 61 year old previously dimension B woman who started listening in order to have some common ground with my 30-year old son who gasp voted for Trump!

46:05 Your podcast has been extremely educational as well as facilitating good conversations with greater understanding of my son's point-of-view and he has donated. I have come to very much appreciate your work, i don't always agree with your analysis but you have largely parted the clouds and allowed the sun to illuminate matters." Now she goes on and on but then she says uh...I admit to finding you especially Adam Of course. Offensive on many occasions with your commentary on women's outfits, hairstyles, milfiness, camel toe etc... We don't talk camel toe is not something that I don't think we've ever mentioned. That's I'm sure the word has come up But I it doesn't matter It doesn't matter also the inserted pig snorts while listening to a recording of a woman Mimicry of their high-pitched responses and so on John you are guilty of joining in with upper Aureus laughter sometimes although it seems You sometimes abstain from comments that perhaps recognize the inappropriateness of Adams comment Are you aware that you don't do any of that in relation to men?

47:07 I'm sorry. Bull crap! We made fun of... Scaramucci just- That's why you stopped me in the middle of my making fun of the guys voice? Yes, exactly we do this all the time but careful of Dimension R You're only hearing half of it. Yeah, you're selectively hearing and we did it just the other... on the previous show I think made in front of Scaramucci and how he talks And we made fun of the reporter who sounds like he has to take a dump We do this all the time! The reporter who takes exactly- All the time!

47:48 But again, I do want to repeat that in general when we make comments about people's appearance it is from a television perspective and we speak as television producing professionals. We are deconstructing the media. Yeah! And that gives us license to be douchebags, of course. And it's funny and I like doing it but we do it to men too! Absolutely how many times have you made fun of Putin? Or what is the guy...the dead guy now...the elitist...Brezhinski Come on Done. All right, let's go back to the shmier. I like that as a good little rant. You're welcome. Huge success story. Okay so this guy has got a hair up his ass and he is going on and on making her life miserable but this is very enlightening segment on Beck. Huge success story. Using 100% true evidence to do so. Right.

48:49 Let's plow through some of the specifics with Glenn Beck. You state that, is there a similar sort of thing where he was not being very well-heeded or there was not a lot of attention paid to him and then he gets slammed by... He did get slammed by Media Matters. He did get pushed out of Fox? I think more attention at the time was being paid to him probably than the remark we discussed with Imus. Right. I think Beck was getting a huge following And that was part of why he was so disturbing to the people that he opposes or that oppose him. And they went after him precisely because he had a large platform at Fox, his show is becoming very successful and then day after day the drumbeat that he was following was his own smear campaign you could say against Media Matters types and George Soros and they were monitoring him So it's sort this dueling campaign between two them but

49:45 made, as you'll see in the book a very public announcement of million dollars from George Soros kind of specifically to get Glenn Beck is a danger to humanity and society. And I think they were they claim credit for pulling him off the air and i think they were. Yes they do. So you're not making any value judgment whether that's a good thing or bad thing? No I'm not. I think it's just a good instructional tool of how an effective smear operation or smear campaign was conducted. But smears is not a positive thing, right? Smearing is the use of false accusations to degrade someone's reputation A synonym for smear is slander libel sully all those words so if you're saying you're not casting You could have cut it earlier I could've cut that out Now the thing that I didn't know

50:36 Was that Soros gave Media Matters a million bucks with the sole purpose of getting Beck off the air? Well, that part I don't know and I don't see any empirical evidence but I certainly am inclined to believe it. It's a lot of money! She's got it documented... The C-SPAN lady no less, that's interesting. Hmm. So, well it worked. And here's what the question comes to mind if you have... You watch The Blaze once in a while I'm sure maybe you don't but i do and Soros' name has never come up

51:12 Oh no, why wouldn't it? All of a sudden I mean Beck used to do these huge diagrams and he'd go for the arrows. And you would always connect it to Soros! Always! And Soros would be at the end of the arrows You're so right In fact for awhile we got accused of being stupid Glenn Beck people Remember that Vaguely if it's not Glenn Beck, it's Alex Jones. It's somebody So that he would always do that But he does not even mention Soros ever since Soros took him out interesting you're right why? Well death would be one motivator You know I don't know man

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

Ross Perot, Political Charts, 1992 Presidential Election

The hosts reminisce about Ross Perot's 1992 presidential campaign and his effective use of flip charts and "fireside chats" to explain economic issues. They discuss his significant momentum as an independent candidate before his abrupt temporary withdrawal from the race. Perot's idiosyncratic style is compared to modern political communication.

ross perot· bill clinton· george h.w. bush· charts· independent politics

51:53 But at a certain point, you got to be careful. We have our detractors we have tons of people who don't like what we're doing or disagree or whatever their issue is and it's harmless. It's Reddit, it's Twitter... not even on the face bag but its email yeah people are eeeh! Yeah but it's harmless. You know that guy? I'm intimately familiar with that guy anyway. What happens if you have a real heavy hitter go after Yeah, well then you have to take things into consideration. You're done! Yeah for sure I have to remind people all the time about Ross Perot Whenever whenever I say... And it wasn't as though he's a lightweight? No well talk about a crazy-ass dude with funny voice. I got a chart right here for ya He was Glenn Beck kind of politics with his charts, flip charts By the way i think if any new politician is specifically somebody like

52:58 Trump actually went in front of the public when they gave their speeches with those little charts that showed things. The way Ross Perot did, I thought they were very valuable and strong. Or the way the fireside chats went which now is...I think Obama pretty much turned that into the presidential podcast Yeah, and Trump is not paying attention to that. He's very poor I thought that they were really gonna have leaders going and stuff flying around you have cool virtual set maybe But there are so many things they could do the guys a TV guy and that's what he comes up with it's pathetic It's really sad And it's nothing like it was on the fireside chat that was Roosevelt I believe right? Roosevelt yep He started him in the radio yeah, then he'd say hey everybody here's what I want you to do for tomorrow's chat I wanted to go get a map

53:46 And people will be lined up outside of the Five and Dime or wherever you'd buy a map or a globe to buy a map, so the president's going to tell us. We look at the map and we understand it." I think people really understood it much better when you look at the map, you understand things. You know, Perot...I'm telling ya, when Perot was there and he had his little chart because it was close-up shot, it was desk shot. It was big enough you could see the chart and he would have a, he had a pointer and he would point. And to show these things, he showed the jobs leaving, you know, in those sucking sound from Mexico all these little idiosyncratic things he came up with but he showed this stuff and it was riveting. Yeah just let everybody know that some younger listeners this wasn't infamous three-way battle that we had it was Bush HW

54:40 Who was the other, who is it? Was it Clinton? Must have been Clinton then. Yeah. Yeah. Clinton and Ross Perot and I always bring this up when people say we are a two-party system in America said no this is why I like to vote independent to keep that notion out and keep it alive that we can still have independence and Perot had I believe close to 30%. It was enormous. It has had huge number he was gaining momentum and then what you were going explain what happened Yeah, he quit and he said because my family's in danger. Yeah the CIA is believed... Well he didn't say the CIA but he said... It's believed?

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

Ross Perot EDS Headquarters Tour, Smart Home Vision

A host recounts a 1994 visit to the EDS headquarters in Plano, Texas, where Ross Perot attempted to acquire his company. The visit included a theatrical presentation of a "bridge of the Enterprise" style data center and a movie about a "smart" neighborhood of the future. The host notes that Perot was early in predicting the rise of smart appliances and electric vehicles.

ross perot· eds· plano· smart home· electric cars

55:19 It could have been anybody. Could have been some mafia guys, but it's believed to be the CIA came up to him and they showed some... I heard that they showed some compromising photos. Dirt on his daughter was maybe a... Yeah dirt on his daughter and this is coming out if you don't get out of this race right now we... You know what? I'd say to my daughter- They got the Clintons in! I'd say to my daughter, baby, you're just gonna have to bite the bullet. I'm going for it. Screw whatever you did screw here with what you did. I'm gonna be president. Ross Perot wasn't that way. No, have I told you the story about when Ross Perot tried to buy my company back in the day? No was it EDS and now we're talking yeah We're talking 2000. I'm sorry 1994 thing 95 And I had on ramp before became think new ideas and he wanted to buy it and he flew us out me and bloom rum bloom flew us out to Plano

56:19 put us up in a hotel and the morning so just be outside the hotel at I'm sure I've told this story. Be outside the hotel, you know 830 am and okay we're outside were waiting all of sudden helicopter lands like you get in helicopter takes us to the building land on the roof Then you go down and hey, it's a complete show. They showed this the data floor that had this like kind of a... almost like the bridge of The Enterprise with three different levels of people sitting in different heights and then the curtains open and you can see all the servers and people running around way down below like mission control kind of total theater

57:06 And then, okay now we're going to show you a movie. You go in this movie theater and it's about the future...the street of the future and what your neighborhood will look like and it's going to be phenomenal! The company that is going to bring it to you is EDS. Then the movie ends, the screen goes up You feel this blast of cold air and there's a whole street with a smart gas station, and a smart home. A smart fridge an electric car he was right about that! And then you walk from your seat in the movie theater into the street it was very impressive I'd say... The bastard underbid so screw him no, said yeah camp on my company Funny Yeah I met him once I was kind of taken aback by how short he is

57:56 Yeah, a very short guy. Like 5'2". I'd say 5'4", maybe somewhere in that range is short for us six-footers it's short he's a borderline He may actually be a petite male so which you know petite males are out there and he's like petite women the same Stephanopoulos Yeah, he's Petit or Robert Reich. The guy that used to be with the Clinton administration. That guy is about 4'11", I think. How hot! Anyway, beside the point... But again we're making fun of men. Vertically challenged men no less

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Big Eyeball Affliction

The discussion shifts to a host's meeting with Steve Jobs and Ross Perot at a NeXT computer rollout. This leads to the introduction of the "Big Eyeball Affliction," a theory regarding public figures like Jeff Bezos and Ross Perot who appear to have one eye more open than the other. The host promises to explore this phenomenon further in an upcoming newsletter.

steve jobs· jeff bezos· ross perot· next computer· big eyeball

58:35 So he was at the, when Steve Jobs rolled out next. I was at that event and Perot and I went upstairs into the, I think it was at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium or someplace like that. And I went upstairs to roam around the balcony just- Trolling for women no doubt! Hey girls! See the back page of Macworld yet? So there was Perot standing there watching the whole thing and I knew that he'd invested in Next. And so, I went up and introduced myself and started chatting with him nobody around us no bodyguards is nothing easy to stand in there

59:16 And I asked him why he invested, you know? Because I thought even back then Steve Jobs was something of a dick. And he told me why...you know what his decision-making process was and it's very interesting conversation and really enjoyed it but he did have still that screechy voice and he had something I'm going to discuss in the upcoming newsletter He had the one big eyeball Oh! What is this? I am not sure about this The people, there's a group of people they have either one the left or the right eyeball appears to be open a little wider than the other. Is there a name for this affliction? It's called The Big Eyeball Affliction I don't know it has no name for its not an affliction you see Jeff Bezos has it worst of anyone. Oh let me take out a picture of him keep going You look at enough pictures of Bezos and you'll see one where his left eyeball is really wide

1:00:07 And is right eyeballs kind of semi-closed. I'm actually using the search term Jeff Bezos big eyeball, the first top hit. What's the deal with Jeff Bezos' eye? Nice! You're right. Yeah, yeah it looks like it's like a could be a glass eye almost like it's an artificial. No I've come up with a theory about this which I'll discuss in an upcoming newsletter is very interesting and I always thought Perot had couldn't find any good pictures of peros big left eye but when I met him he was apparent to me

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Imran Awan Arrest, Debbie Wasserman Schultz IT Scandal

Imran Awan, a former House IT staffer for Debbie Wasserman Schultz, was arrested at Dulles International Airport while attempting to flee to Pakistan. Awan faces bank fraud charges related to a $300,000 loan from the House Credit Union. The hosts highlight his extensive access to congressional emails and the mainstream media's relative silence on the story.

imran awan· debbie wasserman schultz· fbi· bank fraud· dnc

1:00:50 Once you start looking for this phenomenon, you find left eyes big eyes and sometimes you'll find big right eyes. But generally speaking in the business of right-eyed left big left. Yeah Well, I'm going to go to something completely different for a moment. Finally some real mainstream M5M news about the Anwar brothers who we've been tracking ever since George Webb started... You're talking about an undercover story? Yeah! Ever since George Webb came to our attention. a while ago and been following that. These are the, we just call them the brothers and they're Pakistanis who had these interesting IT contracts and they worked primarily for Debbie Wasserman Schultz

1:01:34 and there's all kinds of shenanigans going on with alleged hacking into other congressional members' computers, a lot of different things going on. Then we hear that hard drives were retrieved from the house that Imran was leasing out And these are the hard drives that the congressional police confiscated, apparently with help from the FBI. Now there's a little confusion because we're hearing that they were smashed—the hard drives were smashed with a hammer and And we're not sure if that happened before they were confiscated or perhaps by intelligence officials. We just really don't know, but I do have an RT report which is pretty decent. On Monday a former house IT staffer Imran Awan was arrested at Dallas airport trying to leave

1:02:26 Washington DC for Pakistan charged with bank fraud according to the FBI document a one along with his wife defrauded the house credit union of almost $300,000 to I quote obtain money by means of false pretenses and of quote it is believed that he has already wired all The money to Pakistan which eventually became the reason for his arrest And also that he claimed the money for funeral arrangements. But who is Imran Awan? Not your average IT specialist working for the house! He started his career at Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office back in 2005 and since then has managed to get at least 4 of his family members to work on The Hill.

1:03:04 And just recently, Imran Awan was part of a criminal investigation after five current and former House staffers were accused of stealing equipment from members' offices without their knowledge and thus committing serious potentially illegal violations. Again, Imran Awan was not just another IT guy on the Hill. In 12 years he had worked for 25 House Democrats including Ohio Representative Marsha Fudge and New York Democrat Gregory Meeks. Those two were among the list of lawmakers who cut ties with run after his name surfaced in the equipment theft allegations. The only one who did not and kept him on the payroll was Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former chair of the DNC. She kept him employed despite a want being stripped off access to house IT networks for months

1:03:51 Speaking of which, before the theft scandal, Awan enjoyed huge access to emails and files of dozens of Congress members including passwords to the iPad of Wasserman Schultz which she had been using for business while serving as chair of the DNC. Awan was also mentioned in one of the DNC cables leaked by The Wikileaks. Which you can imagine has already generated a flurry of theories about Awan potentially being the leaker of those emails. The Ahwan's story at this point certainly has more questions than answers, the man himself pleaded not guilty on Tuesday we also reached out to Debbie Wasserman Schultz office for comment but there's been no response as of yet. Gee... No kidding!

1:04:33 So they got this guy on, uh... just a charge for money laundering or stealing. That's... you know, they got him! That's the main point. So someone was looking for this guy. There is definitely someone on this case within either law enforcement or FBI and I hope they're doing the right thing Because this thing really stinks. And the M5M, they're just not touching it. They are not touching the story at all. I know! I'm baffled by this. They go all over them...they follow themselves over some tweet that Trump does and then they still spend a whole news cycle talking about it and they just ignore this story Or my favorite that Trump confused the Boy Scouts of America for the Hitler Youth That was my favorite story Love that story We're back to that now?

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump Boy Scout Jamboree Speech, Media Criticism

President Trump's speech at the Boy Scout Jamboree drew sharp criticism from media outlets, with some comparing the event to a Hitler Youth rally. The hosts defend the scouts and critique the "tolerant left" for seeing fascism in every Trump appearance. They also play a clip of Roland Martin on MSNBC calling the President a "crackhead" for large crowds.

donald trump· boy scouts of america· hitler youth· roland martin· msnbc

1:05:28 I mean, it says more about the person who sees...I mean, really? I've seen a lot of Hitler Youth videos growing up in the Netherlands. You know you kind of indoctrinated, hey kids if this starts to happen to you beware is probably not a good ending and that didn't come up! It didn't come up in my head at all. I'm just like, I was outraged because he said hell or something like that whatever it was and they barely showed the audience. The Boy Scouts are not all 12 years old But, okay. Uh... but then all to say oh! He could- Hitler Youth! Yes political rally! It's very insulting to the Boy Scouts To the Boy Scouts yes it's horrible I found the whole thing to be just really sick Yeah yeah it is Again its the same thing as the tolerant left you know just seeing Hitler everywhere and people When Tina comes home every day You know that inevitable that she's in a Bish environment

1:06:29 And she'll come home and she'd be like, oh my God. What happened now? I have to almost kind of work on it like deprogram her a little bit. She's like why can't he just shut up? Okay let's just sit down for second and see what is going on because usually I've missed all of it cause I'm doing other things you know I try to stay away from all dimensions during my normal hours in business And it's just like, well what is this? I can't even find what is so egregious. You really have to read... Oh he said hell and then I see the Hitler Youth things coming through my oh my god! This is just insane completely insane. Yeah then later we talked to some other youth group which I actually saw the live feed of because they had a live feed come down the satellite into the ABC

1:07:22 group locally, which is online. And it was a dissimilar group. It was a bunch of kids that...it's like a boys and girls club only just some group of kids that are run by the VFW I never even heard of these this club And, you know he was just being his...you know it's the Trump. There are two Trumps. There is the Trump that is the affable big audience let me just ad-lib a speech and say what I feel like Trump that guy yeah and then there's the other guy who reads from a prompter to read what he's told and then he embellishes. I guess there are three. There's a tweeting Trump too. There's a tweeting Trump, there's a teleprompter Trump

1:08:04 Then there's the totally off script Trump. Yeah, yeah exactly. And it's that off-script Trump is the funniest one. Yes! I get a lot of enjoyment from him. He goes in front of all these kids and he keeps saying isn't this a great place to be right now? The kids yell yay and he says I can't hear you and they yell louder You know, and this kind of thing. Aren't you all happy to be here? It's great." And at some point I felt that he was giving... Now I'm reading into it from the wrong dimension probably but I'm really probably from the Dimension B. I'm reading into it when he's getting the kids to say how great it is to come visit the White House. I'm kind of getting the impression that he's needling this, the Golden Gate Warrior or Golden State Warriors for not showing up? Yeah because they didn't want to come see the president because they went to see the black president and this guy's not black so we're not going! And you know that the black president, the way you put that nice missed his invitation to the Boy Scouts of America because he had a previous engagement

1:09:07 Do you know what his previous engagement was? Golf. Close, an appearance on The View. Oh... So he couldn't go, he couldn't be a part of it. Anyway all this spills over into the mainstream media and actually I caught this on MSNBC, there's a guy named Roland Martin And the MSNBC hostess actually called him on it. Here's the deal, large rallies for Donald Trump that is his crack He is addicted to it. He is a crackhead when it comes to large crowds." I'm like, yeah! Now you're talking he's a crack head and notice how he slips into little black kind of like...he's a crack head Yeah, he treats a little blacker. Yes Very nice very nice. I like and then she oh You can't say crackhead. ...rallies for Donald Trump that's his crack. He is addicted

1:10:07 it to it. He is a crackhead when it comes to large crowds. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about being respectful. This is the president of the United States. If you want to say he's an adrenaline addict, if you want to say this virus is not fine... That's his fix! That's his fix. He gets in front of a large crowd, he loses it! Not letting up. I love that. I thought that was really good. Crackhead when it comes to... yeah duh. You could describe it many ways and I agree. I like crack head alot though and that was good. I appreciate it. And then Brennan

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

John Brennan, Robert Mueller, Aspen Security Forum

Former CIA Director John Brennan spoke at the Aspen Security Forum, expressing absolute confidence in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Brennan suggested that if Trump were to fire Mueller, executive branch officials should refuse to carry out the order. The hosts interpret Brennan's comments as a borderline call for a mutiny or coup against the President.

john brennan· robert mueller· wolf blitzer· aspen security forum· cia

1:10:48 former CIA director, he was at the... is it I guess the Aspirin Conference? Is that on again? The Aspirin Conference. Yes! The notorious Aspirin Conference in Asprin Colorado which of course is hosted by insider Brolf Blitzer Yeah and the whole operation's run by Isaacson The hedge fund guys at a hedge fund? No. Isaacson is the next journalist I think we kind of associated him with one of the agencies, but don't know which one for sure. CIA probably. He's the one who writes these big fat books out of the blue

1:11:27 and meanwhile runs all these operations. It seems unlikely anyone has that much energy or time, but okay." Well he said something very interesting! You know be addressed sooner rather than later in terms of what is there if there's nothing there let's move on but this is where the work of Robert Mueller is critical to our future as a country because I you know in some respects we're a government and a nation in crisis right now You have confidence in this special counsel? Absolutely. You both worked with him for a long time when he was head of the FBI. Absolutely, I was... The douchebag is there. Oh yeah! Bob! He's the best! Bob will take care of it! Bob! Fired choice They don't come any better Nobody does it better than Bob Mueller. He's a straight shooter and would not be intimidated by anything If he's fired or tempted to be fired by Mr Trump

1:12:15 I really hope that our members of Congress, our elected representatives are going to stand up and say enough is enough. and stop making apologies and excuses for things that are happening that really flout, I think our system of laws in government here. When you say enough is enough... Brennan still talks he has that fast talking style of leave it to Beaver He's gonna double down now on this so we say yeah Congress should stand up and brolf appropriately says what do you mean by that? ...excuses for things that are happening that really flout i think our system of laws in government here when you see enough is enough If he's fired, and he is the President of the United States so you could tell Rosenstein to fire him if he wants. But if he's fired what would you want Congress to do? First I think it's an obligation for some executive branch officials to refuse to carry out some of these orders that again are inconsistent with what this country is all about Is he calling for mutiny? It sounds like He said people should just ignore the orders

1:13:16 I think that's... What he said? Yeah, just listening in on here. First of all, it is the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry out some of these orders that again are inconsistent with what this country is all about but I would just hope that this is not going to be a partisan issue Is he calling for a coup maybe? He's calling for something! I think that's kind of borderline what he's doing there Yeah, I think so too He's not a patriot. Now, there is a bunch of right-wing rumors floating around that Mueller...Mueller? Mueller! Mueller! Mueller is going to go after Hillary but they don't want to talk about it

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Jeff Sessions Recusal, Donald Trump Twitter Attacks

President Trump continued his public criticism of Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the Russia investigation. The hosts speculate that the public spat might be a "smokescreen" or a ruse to distract from other investigations, such as those involving the Clinton Foundation. They consider the possibility that Sessions is "taking one for the team" in a coordinated effort.

jeff sessions· donald trump· russia investigation· leaks· attorney general

1:14:03 And to make that... I think this is just wishful thinking. By the way, I'm in total agreement with you. I think it's a wishful thinking but they the way the thinking goes is that Mueller's laying low but he's going to go after Hillary and the Clinton Foundation and the whole thing with Jeff Sessions is just a ruse to keep because for people who don't know Trump is tweeting nasty things about his Attorney General. Okay explain how that fits in? Well it makes it look like the White House is trying to get rid of Sessions because they're scared to death that the Mueller investigation is going to turn something up, hookup the Russians with Trump and to get into the finances of the kids

1:14:49 find out that his wife was, you know a porn star. Who knows? Sessions' wife? All these things are possible! Okay all right yeah do you have a clip? You got something to listen to I got no clips oh it's too bad i saw you have a sessions clip which was well the session yeah well this will bring us up to speed on sessions this is the session yeah this is this is i have a little point to make after you play this clip President Trump in the Rose Garden today, once again attacking his own Attorney General for recusing himself from the Russia investigation. I am disappointed in the attorney general he should not have recused himself Sessions made the decision because he served on the Trump campaign and has gotten bipartisan praise for the move still today the president called on sessions to focus his attention elsewhere I want the attorney general to be much tougher

1:15:43 on the leaks from intelligence agencies which are leaking like rarely have they ever leaked before at a very important level. But Mr Trump stopped short of firing him We will see what happens, time will tell Time will tell. Yeah, that's when you got to start looking on LinkedIn when you hear your boss say that. Now I find out why? When I worked for the air pollution district we had a deputy something or other who is ran the whole random enforcement division And kind of an interesting tough guy named John Donovan. I got a kick out of the fact that he would always have these bimbos around him when he left, some woman would come over and they'd go out to dinner with him

1:16:34 Somebody was saying that guy really he was a short kind of a funny-looking guy That had no real except for they wore nice suits. He had no like aunt Anthony Scaramucci Yeah, exactly exactly He's always dressed to the tens and yet and they always have these babes that would come over that were They would go out with him. They're always different and somebody commented that man, that guy really has a charm must have a charm or something going on because he's got all these women and I had to point out because I was floating around in area that had a lot of hookers And he was just hanging out with a lot of escorts Oh and Donovan was a

1:17:15 One of these manager types that really got on your nerves because his memos would always end with something like a word to the wise. Or then there's other ways, kind of threatening? Yeah. A word to the wise you just put it on stuff commonly and this is like time will tell I find guys who do that to be some of the worst managers in Imaginable. They're very annoying, they keep you on edge and maybe that's the idea keeps you on edge makes you nervous Makes your fearful for your job has all kinds of it just I don't like it I don't like them and when and when Trump says time will tell and then he says it twice Yeah, I had this like this is a guy wouldn't want to work for I just wouldn't want to work for a guy Like that now you guys what I said? You hear that from your boss Okay There you go

1:18:10 It's like constant threats. Yeah, I mean it is not you know I also don't see Trump has taken one for the team but I Know but I also don't see mmm. So I just don't see the point You said it had something to do with that being a distraction just go back to that for a second well, I'm thinking in a in a sense of a giant conspiracy where Trump is trying to make sure that If there's an investigation of Hillary and Bill, they're not shredding documents because they think it's going on. They're just da-da-da-da I'm fine And so you want to create a smoke screen? And the thing with Sessions looks like it might be a smokescreen that helps keep people's eye off of what... Well here is a thought

1:18:58 Do you think that sessions may be in on it? It's like Jeff listen dude because they're really good friends where they were Dude, here's what's gonna happen. Yes I need to just be calling you out and just gonna have to take this crap because dot-dot-dot Yeah Hmm. I think that's a possibility I think it's a possibility. You know, to say it once but to continuously carp on the guy? Yeah. He's going overboard. So there is something up with that. If he wasn't going overboard I wouldn't be so suspicious. Right. Well maybe Cessna... well Cessna has really taken one for the team then! Big time! Can you imagine that?!

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Episode 950 Celebration, Janet from Brentwood Donation

The hosts celebrate the 950th episode of the podcast by reading a major donation from Janet from Brentwood. Janet contributed $727.50 in honor of her birthday and her son's recommendation of the show. She receives a "de-douching" ceremony and requests several sound bites, including "resist we much."

janet from brentwood· episode 950· donation· birthday· de-douching

1:19:52 Yeah, I'm gonna have the president. He's gonna have to say that you're a douche Well time will tell but now that's patriotism right there ladies and gentlemen To have the president call you out as a douche mm-hmm nice well good on you Jeff if it's true yeah in the meantime I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Sui Renassie stands for community Dvorak And in the morning of you mr.. Adam Curry also In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. And good morning to games and knights out there! In the morning to the chatroom, noagendastream.com Good to see y'all there Everybody all lined up ready and good to go with the snark as usual... In the morning to ComicStripBlogger He brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 4-9 of The Brosplosion This was a very devious looking elephant

1:20:44 that made it into the album art which we appreciate and there's reasons for that if you heard episode 949. Yeah, then you would know why and it was perfect! There was a number of other good pieces but I think this one really hit home for us...we liked it uh and of course we thank all of our artists who submit art at noagendaartgenerator.com It's always beautiful to see and after that great elephant bit We really got very little in this way of response for the next show like it's show 950 and great on a 50 and we got nothing I mean, it was a real debt. I blame myself I guess the newsletter wasn't you know making it clear one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve people

1:21:27 in total, took part in the great celebration. You got that little thing, that little horn that we like to blow during these fabulous ceremonies? Yeah during a big celebration! Yeah, yes giant celebration Yes hold on a second We are so happy! Thank y'all though so much And it nails it down So we have like one two three four executive producers and one Lou an associate executive producer but there's at least one executive producer Janet from Brentwood And by the way, on the birthday list I have the letter from her. On a birthday list she should be identified as Janet from Brentwood not just Janet. You might want to make that change. She contributed $727 and 50 cents and I believe we have to give her a de-douching right off the bat. You've been dedouched! Done and done

1:22:25 And now I'm gonna give you're gonna get a list of things to To play. I'm gonna give them to you if before I read the note Oh, thank you Putin on the Ritz Stay woke my Millennials No no no no with any sort I guess Resist we much and the goat scream. Okay, that's very handy thank you I appreciate that By the way i think the goats scream is a must for these things I don't know why it cracks me up so much It was just a perfect goat Hi John and Adam im a first time contributor partly by dereliction parly by design

1:23:12 During the last election. I was befuddled and anxious about the obviously biased MSM media coverage my smart son Nick from Walnut Creek Which I don't know what the other sons are but this is a smart Nick from Walnut Creek hit me in the mouth and said mom Don't watch network news or cable news listen to the podcast no agenda whoo I began to listen to your shows more and more, and realized that your media deconstruction and quirkiness helped keep me sane. Sane she says amid the ongoing political craziness realizing a couple of months ago that you have a show on my birthday today

1:23:55 $727.50, so that's what she gave. I don't know what the 50s got to do with it? No maybe she's 50. Anyway she says we much resist mindless progressivism politicized science and biased MSM So I would like to hear and then she says, thanks for the great job. Keep it up Janet from Brentwood. Thank you very much Janet. And was there a significance to the number that she came in with? Well yeah 727 is her birthday that's today. Oh of course duh! And 50 is...she turned 50 maybe? Yes I'm guessing that's her age. All right.

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Brock Samson, Dame Francine Hardaway

Several high-value donors are recognized, including Caleb Hilly and Andrew Drake, who is knighted as Sir Brock FN Samson of the Burning Marsh. Dame Francine Hardaway also contributes to the show. The hosts grant "relationship karma" and "job karma" to the donors as part of the value-for-value model.

knighthood· caleb hilly· andrew drake· francine hardaway· karma

1:24:44 My millennials stay woke! No, no, no. Hey! But resist we much We must and we will much about that be committed You've got karma Always a winner Now we have three donations in a row that are set for variations of 333.33, which I find interesting. Caleb Hilly in Central South Carolina $333 and 33 cents your show has been a great way to stay sane and keep up with the news since they started listening regularly about a year ago this is truly the best podcast in the universe and I like to hear a bit of Yoko singing accompanied by Millennial again and goat screams!

1:25:39 Oh, I'm telling you. This is unbelievable these coincidences also could get some relationship karma to help find a universe straddling girlfriend thanks for all your hard work and go podcasting. My millennials stay woke! You've got karma Downward we got Andrew Drake and some parts unknown here. It's $333 in 33 cents This should bump me past the grand for my knighthood nice I would like to be known as sir Brock FN Samson of the burning marsh Okay, that would be great He says could I please get a job as karma and an f cancer from my father who has been getting? Carcinomas gouged and burned off his skin you keep up the great work

1:26:45 Right, we'll do it in that order. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Dame Francine Hardaway Oh hello Dame Francine. Her buddy $333 and she just simply says for job 950. I love you guys We'll give her karma whether she wants it or not yes, and I appreciate that Dame Francine Thank you so much She's busy man. She's everywhere see on the face bags like boom. She's in Arizona boom. She's a San Francisco boom She's New York boom boom boom boom. That's how she was retired. Yeah, she's retired but not tired You've got karma

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Podcast Remixes, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts discuss the quality of recent musical remixes submitted by listeners, expressing a preference for those that integrate show clips into the beat rather than just playing audio over a music bed. They provide official credits to the executive and associate executive producers for Episode 950, encouraging them to list the titles on their LinkedIn profiles.

techno· remixes· executive producers· linkedin· credits

1:27:34 And last but not least, Nick Foster in Trimble Missouri 200. And he says John's description of elephant sex made me giggle please out there somebody remix okay yeah well all right I did receive one but you know what's happening is we're getting more and more instead of stuff being really cut on the beat were just getting like pieces of a story over a beat... You actually complained about this after the show last time Yeah, what I don't like is...I like techno and all the rest of it but- Well of course. The thing that was fabulous using that word

1:28:12 Previous to some of the stuff we're getting now was where someone say no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Batman or there was something you know where your were your doing stuff that has got some sort of a Use of this sound of the of the sayings and sounds at the clips or whatever That kind of go with the music not just like just us blabbing about stuff and and some some non-descript music bed underneath it that's kind of cool and maybe you dreamed it up yourself on your keyboard, but it's not interesting.

1:29:08 Forgotten that one. It's a good one and there you have it all right anyway That's our group of executive producers associate executive producers for show celebratory show 950 yes congratulations John Congratulations the job we did yes, I actually should be congratulated for doing nine hundred nine hundred and fifty shows but remember And remember they used to be better That's just that's just what I hear all the idea of you used to be better What is this? This is a good sound you have I like that. What does that that's the tone net, huh? Well you're making a new sound with it do it again almost the same key It's beautiful yeah very similar All right these are official credits executive producers and associate executive producers who just received them We always give these credits up front Just like Hollywood does you see that all the time And these are various it's exactly the same whether your

1:30:06 producing songs or artwork, or giving us information. Or definitely helping with the finances which is what most people do but they don't have those other talents it is highly appreciated thank you very much and use these credits wisely where again we come back to LinkedIn people like to put that on their resume and then you get views for sure I will be thanking more people $50 and above later on the program and we have another show coming up on Sunday please remember us at Dvorak.org slash N-A-W That means you'll be out hanging with the bras. Why don't you propagate the formula? Our formula is this we hit people in the mouth And must have been at least been four emails this week from parents who were turned on to the show by their kids Well, they're older kids not necessarily really young kids but late 20s 30s which is nice

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

David Bromwich, Media Obsession with Donald Trump

An article by David Bromwich in the London Review of Books argues that the mainstream media is addicted to Trump for ratings, which prevents fresh Democratic talent from emerging. The hosts agree that the media's constant focus on Trump—even when negative—mirrors the excessive attention that helped him get elected while ignoring figures like Bernie Sanders.

david bromwich· london review of books· media ratings· bernie sanders· russia

1:31:09 Yes, I'm happy. Yeah, it is nice to hear that we're getting a cultural mix you're getting a generational mix in and out and got a lot of notes from people about the Concept that there's two millennial groups yeah, yeah You have that note handy? We got someone confirmed it actually well. I don't know if I know I don't have it handy But I can dig it up. I do want to bring up a topic though that this is just kind of an in passing thing, it came from...I was reading the London Review of Books and there's this article by David Bromwich, it's kind of a Trump basher but it had a couple paragraphs in here that I wanna read because it brought to mind something I didn't consider

1:31:57 This is the end of the article, he's bitching and moaning about stuff. He says mainstream media are using their peck of Trump a day to keep ratings high while making it impossible for him to govern just the thing Fox did for 16 years to build Clinton and Obama The retaliation is symmetrical and warranted, but it does nothing to advance the cause of a political opposition. The Democrats still looking to retrieve the stolen election but uncertain what opening to pursue seem almost united in pushing for confrontation with Russia guided in this by the unvaried diet of the media and the mythology of the Cold War, an epoch whose non-mythological terrors few of them experienced as adults

1:32:39 Unlike me and you to some extent. I think the same extent by keeping Trump in the news as both enemy and a source of a scandal they prevent their own fresh talents from ever appearing on the front page Well advises they may be about Russia's intervention or not, and Trump's depravity are not They are looking, I'm putting in the or nots by the way. Not a ham. They are looking for a police detective solution to political problem and what this brought to mind when i was reading this was the following idea one of their reasons trump won the election and i think people still complain about is that the media was giving him so much attention you know he was just in the news all times seventy five percent of the article which by the way has now turned into positive media attention

1:33:29 He's still getting the same over attention by the media. So nothing has changed and so the Democrats, in fact people that hate Trump will say The Washington Post, The New York Times CNN and MSNBC I remember when MSNBC, for example actually stopped the program. I think it was Rachel's show and they put a Trump speech on Yeah? I guess to ridicule it later Yes! I'm not sure why they would do this Yes that is exactly what kind of crazy will happen now?! Yes exactly and they would never put a Bernie speech on Bernie gave as many speeches he was getting bigger crowds than Trump often They would never do that Well but they had a separate memo to no highlight Bernie

1:34:13 Right Bernie was a different and to be honest Bernie is boring on TV. His speeches were okay man Boring the point is that the media what they were doing to get Trump elected? They're still doing Well this ties in neatly too, and I really want to read this list with a house resolution that has been introduced by Mr.. Cohen And a whole slew including Mr. Al Green, Mr. Carson, Ms Lee Watson Coleman Boyle on and on and on all of the Democrats As with the resolution we are very familiar with it's kind of meaningless the resolution but it always has a resolved part at the end which means that were going to have take action on this

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

House Resolution 456, Democratic Grievances Against Trump

The hosts review House Resolution 456, a lengthy list of grievances introduced by Democratic representatives including Steve Cohen and Maxine Waters. The resolution cites issues ranging from the Emoluments Clause and Trump's tax returns to his "inappropriate" use of Twitter and his comments about foreign leaders like Egypt's El-Sisi. The hosts mock the document as a sign of congressional overreach and pettiness.

house resolution 456· steve cohen· emoluments clause· twitter· russia

1:33:29 He's still getting the same over attention by the media. So nothing has changed and so the Democrats, in fact people that hate Trump will say The Washington Post, The New York Times CNN and MSNBC I remember when MSNBC, for example actually stopped the program. I think it was Rachel's show and they put a Trump speech on Yeah? I guess to ridicule it later Yes! I'm not sure why they would do this Yes that is exactly what kind of crazy will happen now?! Yes exactly and they would never put a Bernie speech on Bernie gave as many speeches he was getting bigger crowds than Trump often They would never do that Well but they had a separate memo to no highlight Bernie

1:34:13 Right Bernie was a different and to be honest Bernie is boring on TV. His speeches were okay man Boring the point is that the media what they were doing to get Trump elected? They're still doing Well this ties in neatly too, and I really want to read this list with a house resolution that has been introduced by Mr.. Cohen And a whole slew including Mr. Al Green, Mr. Carson, Ms Lee Watson Coleman Boyle on and on and on all of the Democrats As with the resolution we are very familiar with it's kind of meaningless the resolution but it always has a resolved part at the end which means that were going to have take action on this

1:35:06 And it's House Resolution 456. I just want to read the whereases, because this is all the grievances they apparently have all in one document and that they're going to use To get him impeached or actually when you hear their resolve part It's kind of tame but it's really interesting to read what they're all pissed off about You ready for the list? Oh yeah. Whereas on January 20, 2017 Donald J Trump swore to quote faithfully execute the office of the President of The United States and to preserve protect and defend The Constitution Of The United States that's just the first whereas in other words he is unconstitutional whereas the constitution prohibits federal office holders from accepting emoluments of any kind from a foreign state without consent of Congress

1:35:52 Whereas President Trump has refused to divest place into a blind trust or otherwise give up his ownership interest in his worldwide business holdings since becoming president. Whereas President Trump has refused to release his tax returns and break from the practice of United States presidents for more than 40 years Whereas, on February 14th 2017 the Chinese government registered a trademark to Donald J. Trump for branded construction services following a 10-year legal battle that turned in Donald John Trump's favor after he declared his candidacy for President of the United States And we'll continue. Whereas on February 27, 2017 and March 6th 2017 the Chinese government granted preliminary approval of 38 new trademarks to Donald John Trump and one of his companies, and the director of a Hong Kong intellectual property consultancy said he had never seen so many applications approved so expeditiously, and the approvals closely followed President Trump's decision to honor the One China policy in contrast to his earlier statements

1:36:50 So now it's a little new here. It's like, let's stop there. Trump... Wait wait wait! Let me read the following line is important. Whereas President Trump did not first seek or obtain the consent of Congress before accepting any of these trademark benefits from Congress Trump in that commentary or that whereas they talk about Trump accepting the one China policy It was the same Democrats when Trump took the call from the Taiwanese president Yes out of order which he shouldn't have done. They condemned him for not following the one-time policy He knuckled under because of the Democrats bitching about him taking that phone call yeah, then

1:37:37 That's the root of his one China policy. So what are they bitching about in this thing? Well, they're going to try and get him on tech... They're trying to... It's all about looking for a technicality. Yeah, with all the emoluments clauses will continue then it's crazy because this is exactly what you say to yourself when your head is cut off accusing people of what they are guilty of themselves. Because you know that all these people are on the take, all of them! They all have deals and getting all kinds of goodies and trips and stuff... Anyway. Whereas President Trump owns approximately 77% of the Trump Old Post Office LLC which holds a lease from the General Services Administration to operate The Trump International Hotel in Washington DC

1:38:21 Whereas the Trump International Hotel in Washington DC has actively courted foreign diplomats for their business and according to public reports since the November 2016 election, diplomats have made plans to stay at the hotel to curry favor with Donald John Trump. Sorry I take offense when you're using my name. Whereas some diplomats have said spending money at Trump's hotel is an easy friendly gesture to the new president Whereas in late January 2017, a lobbying firm working for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia paid for a room at the Trump International Hotel in Washington DC after Inauguration Day as part of its effort to bring activists to Washington to urge Congress to repeal the law letting 9-11 victims' families sue the kingdom.

1:39:03 And they go on, it was reportedly taken in $270,000 in payments tied to Saudi Arabia for expenses including lodging catering and parking expenses. Correct me if I'm wrong didn't he explicitly say that all profits from the DC hotel the Trump International Hotel would be given to the treasury? I don't remember that. Yeah I do Okay, it's possible that he said that. Okay so they're trying to get... That would end that controversy. Then we have I'll skip the dates whereas the embassy of Kuwait held its national day celebration at Trump International Hotel in Washington DC

1:39:41 Whereas the ambassador and permanent representative of Georgia to the United States stayed at Trump International Hotel in Washington DC. Whereas President Trump did not first seek or obtain the consent of Congress before accepting any of the benefits from foreign states derived from their patronage of the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. You see what's going on here? And it just keeps on going. Back to China, Trump owns Trump Tower a mixed-use skyscraper in New York at least two of the Trump Tower tenants are entities owned by foreign states including the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China which is owned by China and Abu Dhabi Tourism and Cultural Authority which is owned by the United Arab Emirates and just goes on and on here. This is a good one, whereas the president is an executive producer of The Apprentice and the state-owned television station BBC1 in United Kingdom pays license fees to broadcast the show! And Trump has not sought or obtained the consent of Congress before accepting benefits from the United Kingdom or any other foreign government in the form of licensing fees for The Apprentice. This is how far this is going

1:40:44 So because our most favorite partner in all the world, United Kingdom. They might have control over the president because of the licensing fees sent to him by state TV. Then they go into a whole bunch All of the Comey stuff. It just goes- this list, John it's there must be 50 items on this. Whereas Trump has appointed his son in law Jared Kushner to serve as an envoy to foreign leaders despite having no diplomatic experience. Whereas the United States foreign policy has long been based on both our nation's interests as well as our values including democracy, freedom of the press and promotion of human rights. When speaking about Egyptian President Abel Fattah el-Sisi president Trump said we agree on so many things I just want to let everyone know in case there was any doubt that we are much behind President El Sisi he's done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation whereas El Sisi rose to power in a coup and his country anti government protests have been banned freedom of press and freedom of religion have been ripped

1:41:46 repressed, some independent human rights groups have been banned. It just goes on and on and on... Our president is a dickhole! He's no good!" Here, this is a congressional document. You know if they focus a little more... Wait! Congressional document June 29th President Trump tweeted I heard poorly rated at morning Joe speaks badly of me i don't watch anymore then how come low IQ crazy Mika along with psycho Joe came to Mar-a-Lago three nights in a row around New Year's Eve and insisted on joining me she was bleeding badly from a facelift I said no So they're putting his insults, just everything is in here. A tweet! An insulting tweet? Yeah yeah. Talk about... brother And then here winding it up and I'll get to the resolve

1:42:32 On February 16th, President Trump said his 2016 election victory was quote the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan. Whereas Donald J Trump received 304 electoral... Lies! Yes lies Barack Obama received more 332 Bill Clinton 379 George HW Bush 426 Whereas when President Trump was presented with facts about the size of his predecessors electoral victory margins at a press conference on February 16th, he responded I don't know. I was given that information. Actually i've seen that information around now therefore be it resolved right after that last bit so he's a douche He's nuts! He's a liar! Uh...He's taking money

1:43:14 It is therefore resolved that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that 1. Based on the conduct described in the preamble, The House of Representatives has no confidence that President Trump is faithfully executing the office of the president of the United States and 2. President Trump should release his tax returns Places private business assets in a blind trust or to divest from them. Donate to the United States Treasury as he promised any personal gift he is... Well, there you go! He has made from foreign patronage of hotels in which she has an ownership interest Refrain from taking any action that results in taxpayer money being spent on goods or services from businesses in which he has an ownership interest, such as Mar-a-Lago and Palm Beach Florida. The Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster New Jersey And the Trump National Golf Course in Sterling Virginia Seek congressional consent for all and any emoluments that he has received from foreign countries Refrain from using Twitter inappropriately Including refraining from posting comments that could adversely impact United States foreign policy

1:44:15 Shut up, slave! Can you believe that they put that- They had the balls to put that in a document? Refrain from using Twitter inappropriately. Support the First Amendment. Support freedom of the press. Refrain from calling reporting fake news. Refrain from posting video of himself wrestling with a press logo and stop limiting full electronic press access to White House press briefings This is insanity John That is borderline insanity. It is insanity, you're right it's nuts! And he must unequivocally acknowledge that Russia interfered in the 2016 United States presidential election and work to protect our electoral process from any future foreign interference

1:44:57 Refuse any offer to form any kind of cyber security unit with the Russian government to purportedly protect the United States from election hacking. Respecting the independence of our nation's judicial branch, respect members of Congress and refrain from using derogatory nicknames for them... Oh you called me a bad name! You made a joke about me! And conduct United States foreign policy in a manner that reflects the United States' traditional role as leader of the free world which is typically going out there and killing people So, please get back to killing people the way we used to do it. Why make deals in Afghanistan? I mean...I don't know if you saw this, the president's someone he read 4chan and said oh there is a trillion dollars worth of minerals in Afghanistan! He immediately calls up the president over there and says hey We could probably do something with these minerals These are good for iPhones and other things Maybe you could stop making drugs that are killing our kids

1:45:56 That's what he's doing, as opposed to here we are big swinging dick. We'll kill you because that's how we always do it. They want to get back to that? Yes of course a lot of money from the defense industry but more than less this document shows you that all these people on this house resolution really have too much time on their hands they are not doing the business of the people no no it's mostly the black caucus Well, Maxine Waters would be on here then wouldn't she? She is. Oh yeah, Ms. Maxine. Hey! Ms. Maxine. Yeah, Ms. Maxine. Isn't she married? It's probably Sheila Jackson Jones whatever her name is...Sheila Jackson Shirley Jones is on there. Shirley Jones is on there sure and that guy Al Green. Al Green the singer, Shirley Jones the actress, Maxine Waters the actress

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Net Neutrality, FCC Regulatory Ambitions

The discussion turns to the net neutrality debate, which the hosts frame as a move for government control over the internet. They argue that large tech companies like Google and Amazon support these regulations to prevent ISPs from charging them for high data usage. The hosts suggest the FCC is seeking the same level of control over the internet that it currently holds over broadcast media.

net neutrality· fcc· ajit pai· google· netflix

1:46:55 Well, while those guys are spinning their wheels I was listening to the net neutrality. Oh my goodness! And we have to go back and talk about this again because people they get hypnotized by all these groups that are funded by Google. IFTT you know for freedom for the future Yeah google is George Soros of net neutrality Boom boom there you go You finally made no agenda quotes So we have A couple of things, I've got three clips and there's a subtext. My favorite thing is...

1:47:34 The whole panel of congressmen are all in on this, we gotta do net neutrality. And the new FCC's and there was some guy named Pi who runs it now he's like kind of a fast talking I don't even know what his ethnicity is I can't tell and then it could be Indian, it could be Filipino, you just one of those just you can't tell by his name either And he's got, he doesn't really answer questions. He just kind of bumbles along but I want to play these clips with it and I want you to pay careful attention to the subtext of the questions being and what what's up ahead

1:48:14 up in the road. What's up with the road ahead? Do we need to set the stage at all about net neutrality before we jump into this so people can at least understand what you want, too? You want to do that? Yeah I think we should if you start us off. Okay net neutrality of course is a discussion that started some time ago about Netflix. With this great fear... By the way there's nothing that's happened that makes any of the net neutrality arguments Valid. There's nothing there the Comcast isn't slowing down your internet because of their so they can make more money if they're slowing it down... Okay you're doing a horrible job stop okay I'll tell you what's going on what's going on is groups funded by no longer Netflix, by the way they're out they got what they wanted they're good to go

1:49:05 But it's still Amazon, it's still Google. It's going to be Facebook...it's a really big players who do who shove more data than Netflix believe me they there's so much data and if you know how the internet was built with peering agreements peerage agreements or peering agreements Everyone manages their own network, and these companies want to ensure that there's some kind of legislation that they can't be dinged by these now rolled up networks. We have Time Warner Comcast really huge ISPs instead of a whole collection of smaller ones. They see the writing on the wall with these guys are going to say well you're pushing a lot of traffic our way so we have routers that have to be upgraded and so now you have to pay for it. That is what's going on

1:49:52 And they bring this in a very, very convincing way that gets people all riled up about well but then I won't be able to watch my favorite YouTube podcast because they might be slowing it down for something else. Some commercial stuff and that is everyone's been played which is why I wanted you to explain your position because you have the great beginning argument. with, as far as I'm concerned this is all about finding a way to let the government control the internet. And that is the ultimate conclusion which I completely agree with? This is the long-term goal. The FCC in particular

1:50:39 has seen a rise in cable TV, which they wanted to get control of and they have been unable to do that. They right now control broadcasting with their rules so you can't cuss on a tv show and you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't have this kind of program... They tell the journalists what they have to produce! Well that's CBS. And everybody But the point is that the FCC likes the idea of controlling the messaging that comes through over the airwaves and they'd love to do the same thing with cable TV although they've never been able to manage that. BUT, they have this opportunity to do it with the internet!

1:51:22 By getting the same and I think they could do argument is somehow. I think it kind of works where well unlike cable which is really just kind of a lockdown thing you gotta subscribe to it's not like free and open everybody so we can't get a handle on that it's like we can't really the FCC can't censor movies, for example. At the movie theater they'd love to but they can't there used to be an operation that did that. There was yeah within the ratings board well that's a version of it. Yeah there was a board that used to keep you from having tits for example on a movie I don't like that word

1:52:01 Before the board came into existence in the early 20s, I'm sorry early 30's and late 20s there was a lot of breasts being shown floating around the movies. And you go wow look! No more can't have that anymore. Stop with the breasts you are ruining your corrupting America But the FCC is one of these regulatory agencies that likes to regulate it's what they do So what you want to listen for when you listen to these people talking about net neutrality is, how much does the government really want to encroach or maybe even take over the internet? And it starts right away with this guy and this is

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Greg Walden, Congressional Legislation of the Internet

Representative Greg Walden, Chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, called for Congress to "legislate the rules of the internet" to end regulatory uncertainty. The hosts highlight this as a clear admission of the government's intent to exert authority over the web. They play clips of FCC commissioners testifying on their definitions of an "open internet."

greg walden· energy and commerce committee· internet rules· legislation· ajit pai

1:52:44 This is Greg Walden, he's a Republican from Oregon and this is an oversight subcommittee but he's actually the head guy of the Energy & Commerce Committee. He's the chair and he is a very powerful person And just listen to the question he asked...this is Net Neutrality Basics opening Including Comcast AT&T Verizon and Charter Communications inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and Commerce Committee. It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet, and stop the ping-pong game of regulations and litigation!

1:53:23 And make no mistake, given the importance of this public policy debate and the work we need to do as a committee it is essential that we hear directly from the country's top internet and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly about rules of the Internet. It's time they came before us and directly shared their positions and answered our questions Wow. Yeah, I think there's some subtext there... It is a little more than subtext don't you think? Time to stop this! This series of tubes! That's the guy we need to bring back. He said to quote it's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet. Boom shakalaka Could it be any more clear to anybody out there listening what they're asking? Podcast license podcast license it's coming Oh yeah

1:54:15 Let's go to Net Neutrality Basics 2. This is interesting. And of course Chairman Pius commenced a proceeding to examine returning regulation the internet to the bipartisan framework that made it the economic engine that it is today as we wait for this process to take its course, The future of the greatest economic engine in modern times is clouded with uncertainty with a growing recognition that the time is now for legislative action We offered a way forward on net neutrality in 2015. I believe now as i did then that we should work together to write bipartisan legislation to protect the internet from bad actors who want to use their unfair advantage to block throttle or other ways engage in bad behavior. American people deserve no less, we stand ready to act." Yeah and you'll recall the last time we went through this rigmarole with the net neutrality bullcrap debate

1:55:07 We read the proposed legislation which talked about illegal network traffic. Yeah, of course! Which would be BitTorrent... well there could be tons of stuff anything not- Anything that could possibly be stealing a movie it's all about Hollywood at the end of the day. Exactly exactly The Dark Web It boils down to stealing movies and which is you know getting easier although I have to say if you look Most of the movies to steal are already been through the process and have long been on DVDs and the sales have dropped off Yeah, I haven't. I've yet to find a good source of First-run movie still in the theaters available online. I just don't think there's that there I just don't think it sounds go send it to John at Dvorak org not to me. I pay for my entertainment

1:55:57 I do too. I pay for my entertainment, and I just like to monitor this stuff. Although I did lie and use the VPN and told the BBC that I had already paid my license fee to watch the SSRI special on Panorama. Did they ask you for your mailing code? No! They say yeah you should register because pretty soon you're gonna have to register so of course you say no i'll do that later and then it says Do You Currently Have A License Yes or No So they won't even let you watch their crap online if you don't have a license in London or wherever you are, supposedly in England? Yes. Geez... Well, you're stealing content! I was Now then the one thing- do ask this direct question which I thought was interesting Which is this the Net Neutrality Direct Question and only one guy answers it honestly Request is noted Thank You

1:56:58 I now recognize the chairman of the full committee, Mr. Walden Thank you Chairman appreciate that and again to all our commissioners thank you for enlightening us with your comments here testimony Chairman Pye there's been talk about uncertainty continued uncertainty around future net neutrality are you opposed in that neutrality? Congressman I've consistently said I favor free and open internet as i think many members this committee most Americans do Commissioner Clyburn, are you opposed to net neutrality? I am not opposed to net neutrality. I'm in favor of using the strongest legal tools at our disposal to uphold it. Commissioner O'Reilly, are you opposed to net neutrality?

1:57:39 I agree with the chairman. I support an open Internet. The term net neutrality means so many different things these days than it once did, so I can't have him signing up for net neutrality as currently definition means that every packet has to be treated identically and that to me is not supporting by the current activities of the internet So I don't support that definition of net neutrality now. Very good because that comes to your argument about telemedicine Yeah Meaning put the backs down the back of the queue if he's operating on somebody from a distance? Well, you can if House of Cards just came out. Screw you! Screw with your heart operation we're watching House of Cards priority packets!

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Edge Providers, FCC Definition Shift

The hosts analyze the shifting definition of "edge providers" in FCC discourse. While the term originally referred to technical relay stations like Akamai, it has been expanded to include any entity providing content or devices over the internet, such as YouTube or Netflix. The hosts argue this redefinition is a tactical move to allow broader government regulation of all web content.

edge providers· akamai· cloudflare· google· fcc rules

1:58:25 So the last clip I have here is a very interesting one. It's a guy with, I don't know what he's got to chew on but...I was kind of confused by this and had to go look up Edge provider because edge provider before the official definition came out by the FCC, was always somebody like Akamai or these guys who... who operate on the edge of the Internet. Yes that was the marketing they used too, edge provider I think it was a generally recognized term at the time Yeah but now apparently doesn't mean that at all Now its a CDN

1:59:02 So let's play this clip and this guy has got a question. I honestly believe he doesn't know what he is talking about, I'm talking about the congressman and I don't know if I wrote his name down I think it's Mike Doyle in Pennsylvania. You know, if the thesis of an open internet order was to promote this virtuous cycle of investment and innovation online why aren't you talking about edge providers? The investments that they're making. And the jobs that they're creating I appreciate the question Congressman Obviously everyone as Chairman Blackburn pointed out favors a free and open internet

1:59:52 The great challenge, however is that there are millions of Americans and I visited them from Wardensville West Virginia to Mission South Dakota or on the wrong side of the divide. They are not getting the access they need to be able to participate in the digital economy and to the extent that these rules are impacting infrastructure investment my fear is that those folks are going to be left out of some of the benefits we get in terms of better education and health care and the like." That's a good conversation to have! Now, the guy... Well I don't think he answered the question. Well of course not! Why would you do anything stupid like that? To say the least. That would be crazy to me. So what is an edge provider to you? An edge provider would be well i think that it's

2:00:37 I agree with your original assessment. That's what we called...that's how we defined an edge provider previously, I would say these days edge providers are being viewed as the content providers of the world and so it would be the… Okay, I'll read you a quote from the definition. Yes YouTube for example is an edge provider now but question on my mind to Doyle from Pennsylvania is He's talking about the edge providers making a difference in some, what is he talking about with that question? I don't think he knows what an edge provider is. Now if he's talking about Edge providers like YouTube in particular or Netflix which have their own

2:01:22 giant pieces of equipment that they install at the ISP, which has most of their content on that gear so they don't have to go to YouTube and ask for a clip and then bring it into their service and serve it out to their customer. Instead, they have these appliances as they like to call them which sit there and chew up. And it's expensive to operate but it makes everybody happy now and I don't see what you know okay so that's kind of beneficial but the edge provider is quote any individual individual by the way here we go any individual or entity that provides any content

2:02:01 Any application or service over the internet and any individual or entity that provides a device I am so happy about this finally That provides a device used The implication of this is huge. I can finally say hi nice to meet you, I'm Adam Curry edge provider You are. I'm an edge provider, beautiful! But it also talks about these information appliances when it says device any entity that provides individual or entity that provides a device used for accessing any content that again is the device sits on the ISP's... So here's what happened Here's how it went down Originally we had the edge providers which would be Akamai I guess you could even say Cloudflare There was a bunch of them Kinda like the relay stations

2:02:56 And what happened was that became very expensive to have your own CDN or your edge provider because those guys were just raping everybody with their 99th percentile bullcrap billing. Yeah, we all know how that works in total math wizardry to just take money out of your pocket and when you're funded by VC who gives a crap? But at a certain point your data is so intense, there's so much data you have to move away. And I would say Amazon S3 was also a version of what we'd call an edge provider And then they all kind of go, well here's a genius idea. Why don't we put a box inside the three ISPs that are left in the United States and we'll only have to deal with them? We're not really even going over the internet at all. Maybe we're doing that remotely to update the boxes with the most recent film or TV series and then you know we make a deal directly with them

2:03:48 That is that's what the edge provider has now become. The big CDN has been placed in I mean how many data centers do you really need to have a thousand maybe? A hundred, I mean to cover all of the US for sure You don't have to-I don't think you have to do that much and that is now it then That's why they call any and who is this definitely isn't FCC definition I believe so. Well, this is they're poorly informed. The definition comes from the rules. Yeah but this isn't bad news. Let me read to continue reading those rules also expressly state that a broadband provider quote shall not unreasonably interfere with or unreasonable disadvantage edge providers ability to make lawful content applications services... I'm sorry no agenda yeah sorry

2:04:40 Your content is not lawful. We're sorry Application services or devices available to end users under these rules therefore broadband providers appear to owe duties To every website or application on the entire internet, and this is new Mm-hmm reading I'm reading from tell you what I'm reading for so You know this is from an open Internet order puts edge providers in the spotlight This was a article in Law 360 by a lawyer named Christopher Savage. Edge providers were not always in such a privileged position, the agency's 2005 internet policy statement did not mention edge providers at all

2:05:24 The document focused on the rights of consumers to access content of their choice. Moreover, in part because it was framed as a statement of policy rather than a set of rules, the policy statements key provisions were framed in the passive voice. The agency does not require or forbid broadband providers or anyone else to do anything in particular." Instead, the policy statement repeatedly declares that consumers are entitled to various things leaving the question of from whom they are entitled to receive the stated benefits. I know this is very tricky because this way by saying we want the edge providers to come and talk to us well let me just check my email i don't think i received an email as a premier edge provider

2:06:12 I'm pretty sure, according to their definition. No! Instead they invited Google, Facebook... You know get the sub guy or gal from YouTube and Comcast Spotify They're gonna bring in all the douches The big boys This is for the big boys. Yeah, this isn't for anybody that's like the guy says the consumer orientation is over It's about edge providers. That's right Doyle from Pennsylvania was promoting edge providers Yep So it's about YouTube so if you've got some little competitor A small like voodoo or one of these guys that competes For example with Netflix who doesn't even care anymore because they own the place

2:06:51 You're screwed. I just got to tell void zero, but listen to me for a second he's been very helpful posting in the back channel but now he's in the main chat this is not about because he's like that's not what it and that's not what an edge provider is It's you know? It's like cloudflare And there's different reasons yeah The whole point this is why it's important that I stop and say this they're changing the definition on purpose It is a lie. They are changing it in order to pretty much legislate everything, so they're just saying oh yes the edge providers are now people who provide content and the true edge providers are of course Facebook and Google etc

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Public Comments on Net Neutrality, 1990s Internet Freedom

Over 12.5 million people submitted comments to the FCC regarding net neutrality, mostly in support of regulation. The hosts contrast this with the internet's early days in the 1990s, when the prevailing sentiment was to keep the government entirely out of the digital sphere. They express concern that the public is now actively demanding government intervention.

net neutrality· public comments· internet history· deregulation· 12.5 million

2:07:33 So you're correct. It is a poor definition, it is wrong but they're doing it with the very specific reason and lot of people are falling lockstep right in line with this I'm looking at all you tech horny podcasters like we need net neutrality otherwise will be cut off yeah problems will be much bigger than what you think Yeah and when I go back And remind people what was said by the chairman guy when he says, The Congress must legislate the rules of the internet. Now this is going to be an evergreen let's just play it again. Including Comcast AT&T Verizon and Charter Communications inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy & Commerce Committee. And by the way energy in commerce committee? What an interesting committee to have to talk about content too

2:08:29 Yeah. It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet. Boom! I gotta ISO that, man. That's just too good. Yeah and that's Walden the head of that committee he's the guy from Oregon it's time for Congress to just go ahead and legislate the internet yeah now i want to remind people including Void Zero and everybody else that this was exactly what people were bitching about 20 years ago when the internet first started, and it's in the 90s. In the late-in the mid to late 90s Oh my god! We can't let the government get any involvement whatsoever They should be kept out

2:09:15 It's time they came before us and... ...top internet... Where was it? Back to the beginning. And the work we... No, no it's right at the beginning. Here is it. Commerce committee. Right there! It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet Okay hold on and copy repaste kaboom and then I say Congress legislate the internet and I say And before you play it they go. I think it goes the bit goes like this hold on Adam Hold on John, I'm not quite ready with my ISO Okay Where'd he go? Let me do that where did it go yeah? Where did it go well? I mean that where the hell did it go oh

2:10:15 Oh, here it is. Okay! Yeah John? What's up?! Hey Adam! Yeah!? What time is it?? It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet. Ah ha ha ha haaaahhh! This is childish humor but I love it very good. Alright, I'm keeping that one at the ready we just need to play that and any get a drop of a hat will need it Indeed perfect. So there you go either thought I think couldn't be any more clear what's going on, but okay Yeah gonna happen anyway at this point It's unstoppable and one of the things that kept coming up in this discussion was 12.5 million people wrote in and all What do you think they're all said we got to protect the internet? We had we need net neutrality

2:11:03 12.5 million, that's a lot of notes and all those people came in with it was yes yes this is what we should do and what it amounts to is its time for Congress to legislate the internet And you go back 10 years and this was the worst thing that you could possibly imagine happening It would be a disaster if that happened yet now everybody's demanding Do you know what time it is? John, do you know what time it is? What time? Less than 10 minutes to go! Okay. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On No Agenda morning And we do have a few people to thank Not a lot but enough Michael

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Donation Segment, Sir Phenom, Ben Blessing Fertility

The hosts read donations from Sir Phenom of Patriots Nation and Ben Blessing. Ben Blessing's donation of $77.77 was inspired by a previous donor with the same name and amount, leading him to seek a "fertility blessing" for his wife. One host jokingly predicts they will have a girl, while the other notes the strange numerological coincidences.

donations· sir phenom· ben blessing· fertility· numerology

2:11:58 Matteloni in Chicago. He's become a knight $140 in Chicago he sent a note email wise, but we will Knight him that simple so right beautiful But dog dig see if the note has anything we can well I have his name So you had a note somewhere? He wants to be sir phenom of Patriots nation Okay, okay That's what we needed and the note Sir Stuart Morrison, $123.45 Australian he's gonna be in LA like to hear from no agenda producers if you could and he's at Stewie6 on Instagram at stewiesix anyone in LA?

2:12:44 Then nobody will respond to these things, by the way. Bradford Scott Ramsey $111 and 33 cents And now we have our $95 celebration You can blow the horn as I read these names The 12 people who felt that 95 bucks would help us celebrate Paul Hobbs in Lynch's Creek New South Wales Australia Natalia Lobko? I don't know where she is from Douglas Chick at 95 bucks Sir Brad Doherty, our buddy in Ventura City New Jersey 95. Jason Aubrey in Foreman Arkansas this is so pathetic! Happy 950 John! Jason Aubrey Antonio Sanchez Godinez and Madrid Spain always a good show from the best podcast universe $95 bucks at least Madrid came in

2:13:47 Sir Geronimo's and wagon like big Jenin and wageningen vacuning inging inging And by the way, just yeah. I don't it isn't Holland sir Daniel Ehrlich and Bolzberg Pennsylvania Sir Pat Deary in Sarnia, Ontario. Sir Christoph de Cantankerous and last but not least... Oh two more! Colin Cunningham and Dame Karen of Cimarron Hills Colorado Springs That's a group Hey good group short? Short but sweet But the ones who did donate for 950 I feel loved

2:14:31 Yes, and we thank you all in great. We profusely a lot of people they save up for episodes like that and I appreciate it Yeah Andy Kluber came in with boob in Terre Haute Indiana And he just says sanity Rob Miller boob yeah, and he's got a birthday coming up for dog biscuits All right to Robert is sir rob at the dog biscuits not Robin Oh sure to rob at the dog best It's heading to see the Olympic game although by the way The Olympic Game Farm is hilarious. What is that? And there are numerous times. What is the Olympic Game Farm? The Olympic Game Park, it's like a trip into the woods or into Africa! So you take your car and drive around this dirt road and there are grizzly bears begging for food... ...and sitting on their butts waving. It's really strange I'll tell ya'. Just reading the rest of the note here A real dude named Ben was both the name and profession to match

2:15:33 That's Rob Miller, that's different. That's his second boob Oh I'm sorry, Boob 2 No this is the same boob No no that's the right same guy, you're right NO! Yeah I'm wrong It was Benjamin underneath I'm sorry my mistake Well i'll read Benjamins then Okay Okay Benjamin A real dude named Ben here was both a name and profession to match I am not normally a numerology guy but I was listening to episode 9 and 4-9er thinking I have to donate 7777 for a fertility blessing for my wife and I who are shooting...no pun intended..for our first child A few minutes later during the second donation segment a gentleman by the name of Ben Blessing donated $77.77 It was a sign I needed to finally rid myself of douchebag status and donate." I'm not sure if you guys have already made jingle for a fertility blessing, but I would appreciate something along those lines

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Anonymous Lesbian, Sir Tony, International Donors

The "Anonymous Lesbian" donor writes in from Scandinavia as she prepares to move to New York City. Other donors from Australia, the UK, and various US states are recognized for their contributions. The hosts thank the "under $50" donors for providing a consistent base for the show's operations.

anonymous lesbian· scandinavia· australia· uk· donations

2:16:20 Well, first of all I just want to deduce... You've been de-douche'd. People don't know that you actually are one of those guys that you have some kind of, y'know, you have these powers and usually if your in their presence you can say oh yes no you'll be pregnant soon and you can even tell them what they're gonna have so i think you should do that for Ben Yeah he's pregnant with a girl Okay good done. You watch Now um..Ben Blessing That's interesting coincidence it triggered him Interesting. I like it. All right, onward Doug Cook $73 parts unknown KX 5 DC 73s 73s kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie Sir Tony Jedi Knight of the coders you skipped to the anonymous lesbian Oh, I'm sorry. I did She's back. Yes. She is back. She's back. Sorry anonymous She's back she sent a sweet note Wouldn't it be funny if Ben got pregnant after your blessing?

2:17:24 Yes, I don't think he'd think so. She sent it on the back of a piece of sheet music. Dear John and Adam July 11th here is what will end up being a delayed birthday donation for myself listening to episode 945 and hearing that you know several fabulous women quote-unquote born on July 11th Motivated me to send in a check and let you know that 7-eleven is also my birthday. Whoa That must be why you both liked me so much

2:18:00 Life is crazy as I am moving from Candinavia to New York City Wow quite a move Yeah, but ice and still supporting the show with a subscription and all and One day. I am to be the anonymous lesbian dame of the stage of Carnegie Hall Yes broken a girl can dream thank for your courage anonymous lesbians. Thank you and good to hear you again ale Yeah, she's been laying low because she has a subscription we don't normally... She doesn't send us notes. Sir Tony Jedi Knight of the Coders 6666 and now we've already gotten to our $50 donors as we're going to read them off name and location James Butcher in

2:18:46 Dalwinyu, what is this? Dalwalinyu. I don't know how to pronounce that. It's Washington. No no it's not Washington it's Australia. Okay that makes sense. W-A-W-I-S-H-A-N-T-Y-U-L-A- Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon. Hawaiian country. Joe Schwartzberger Bauer in Florissant Missouri. Philip Mison, Sir Philip to you 50. Jose Ferreira in Newbury Berkshire UK. Louis Pastore

2:19:27 Al Pastor is his brother. Miami, Florida? Nils Bonneker in Hamburg parts unknown hamburger or Hamburg Deutschland what am I thinking Peter Sir Peter Totes and Sugarland Texas Jeffrey Zellin in Oakland Michigan And Sir Gadget Virtuoso in Texas. And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean our friend and pal over here in Oakland California who's been sending in checks since day one Well we appreciate all donations the 95s are very nice thank you for those of you that participated in our celebration with our pathetic horns And of course we want to thank everyone who came in under $50. That's typically for reasons of anonymity, poverty or a subscription which is really appreciated when you're on one of those because that does provide us with some form of a base

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Brock Samson, Sir Phenom

Andrew Drake and Mike Mataloni are officially knighted as Sir Brock FN Samson of the Burning Marsh and Sir Phenom of Patriots Nation, respectively. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, offering the new knights a humorous list of "rewards" ranging from "Hookers & Blow" to "Mutton & Mead."

knighting· hookers and blow· chardonnay· round table· ceremony

2:20:13 And please remember us for our next program will be broadcast live from the Edge provider and you can contribute at devorak.org slash NA Jobs, karma for everyone! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And let's start with the belated birthday first. Sir Tony says happy birthday to his twins June 27 was their birthday and Let me see June 27 is wife and I July 31st and 30th Wow he's got a lot of birthdays congratulations Anthony

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CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Alliance for Securing Democracy, Neocons and Democrats Unite

A new think tank called the Alliance for Securing Democracy has formed, bringing together prominent neoconservatives like Bill Kristol and Mike Chertoff with Obama-era Democrats. The group's mission is to counter Russian interference in democratic institutions. The hosts view this as a "regrouping" of the political establishment against the Trump administration's outsider approach.

alliance for securing democracy· bill kristol· mike chertoff· russia· neocons

2:22:44 There's sometimes there is good stuff. Look what I posted and it was in answer to my question about, you know, what's up with the Kagans? What are all these guys doing?" Yeah that's a good question! What happened to the Kagans? Well... They're not quitting. No. Gregg Greenwald Don Raff wrote a pretty good article on that 250 million dollar WordPress blog and they have created a new think tank called The Alliance for Securing Democracy And it's, this is very interesting because it's Democrats and neocons together. And if I were to now... Were the original douchebag neocons weren't they kind of all in the Republican, Democrat party to begin with in the 70s? They were communists there Marxist type you know radicals in the seventies yes and they

2:23:40 But they couldn't get anything accomplished. And so they've slowly decided to change the way they approach things and became the neoconservatives, because there were kind of conservative back then anyway, and joined a Republican Party and kinda took it over dominating the Bush administration for sure. Well now they're all back together Let me just by the way since Hillary hit since Hillary I believe was very part and parcel of the I mean this group You know, they've kind of crossed borders there. They're thereby and they yeah So they get people like Hilary's to me is a classic example Of someone who supports exactly the O'Connor's in the o'conn And so when Trump comes in he comes up and kind of

2:24:28 pushes back on the whole neocon group and it doesn't take Koch brothers, if Koch brothers push back on them so the Koch brothers are out of the picture. The United Citizens United didn't affect an election at all So they're out of the picture And then neocons were out of the picture so they're all out in the picture that trying to regroup Yeah well They're all getting back together, and it's all under the GMF which is the the German Marshall Fund of the United States and it falls under this Alliance for Securing Democracy moniker. Lauren Rosenberger is the main staff, she's director for the Alliance for Securing Democracy and she's a senior fellow at this think tank Jamie Fly I don't know who he was

2:25:12 National Security Affairs advisor or advisor to Marco Rubio. Now let's go look at the very important advisory council, Mike Chertoff we all know him of course US Secretary of Homeland Security 2005-2009 Thomas Hendrik Ilves who was the president of the Republic of Estonia Then we have some guy from international public affairs. That's interesting, the Estonian guy? Yeah he... well it is to bring in the European Union during his presidency Ilves I think was appointed to serve in several high positions in the field of information and communication technology in the European Union previously served as Minister for Foreign Affairs as the Ambassador of the Republic of Estonia to United States and Candinavia

2:26:02 Also a member of Estonian Parliament as well as a member of the European Parliament So then there's a reason for it when you hear where their mission statement is. Okay, then we have David J Kramer He's been the Florida International University system Bill Kristol biggest neocon There is Mike Morrell total Democrat acting director of Central Intelligence Agency Mike McFaul He's a long-term Obama administration, uh... was he first special assistant to the president? Senior director. I think you mispronounced, uh... Morrells full name It's Mike Morell right? Right! Right Exactly One inside joke for the listeners But then we go from those guys to Mike Rogers Total right wing, uhh... Stooge Let me see Julie Smith

2:26:57 Deputy National Security Advisor to the US Vice President from 2012-2013, so Democrat. Jake Sullivan another Obama guy. Nicole Wong she was Chief Technology Officer for the Obama administration So they're all together John! The neocons with a lot of top Democrats certainly Obama Democrat team members and here's the mission statement You're gonna love it. What do you think they are in this whole group, all these people? They're together we finally have...you know they found a new home they're all going to be together in this with the Democrats with the Hillary Democrats. Single malt scotches. In mission statement, in 2016 American democracy came under unprecedented attack

2:27:49 Oh God. The government of the Russian Federation attempted to weaken the pillars of our democracy and undermine faith and confidence in our society's most fundamental right, the ability to choose our own leaders this effort was... So they're basing this entire operation on a false premise? You bet! Wow. The effort was the only, was only the latest of Russia's repeated and ongoing efforts to undermine democratic institutions and influence free and democratic elections throughout Europe. Its success has led Vladimir Putin to conclude that disruption is effective and comes with little consequence

2:28:28 These assaults employ offensive weapons to attack and weaken democracy. Putin's Russia is seeking to harm the national security of the United States and our democratic allies, and weaken us as nations by striking at our core strength—the strength that enables us to protect and advance our interests in prosperity. These efforts are particularly insidious because they seek to use our greatest strength—our openness against us in order to undermine our democracy! It just goes on and on. So do you think maybe just going to a straight paper ballot would change everything? That's, I would recommend it! Seems like the thing to do Yeah i think that should be someone should introduce a bill But I'll betcha these idiots are also promoting internet voting It's not in their mission statement let me see what they

2:29:22 If they say it's all about, yeah... The Alliance will forge partnerships across the Atlantic with political leaders, policy makers like-minded institutions and technical experts to address the urgent needs to secure our democracies create a common understanding of the techniques used to undermine democracies and share lessons learned about effective defensive and deterrent strategies. Yeah so they can sell all their shit everybody Finally, we'll analyze emerging technological and societal trends to identify areas of vulnerability to the eventual challenge from other state and non-governmental actors who may attempt to replicate these tactics. Hmm... copycats! By analyzing what Russia is doing today the project will develop a shared playbook with recommendations—sounds expensive—for democratic leaders about how democracy can better safeguard tomorrow

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Southern France Wildfires, Leonardo DiCaprio Gala

Massive wildfires in southern France forced the evacuation of 10,000 people near Saint Tropez and Marseille. The hosts note that the story received little international attention until celebrity Joan Collins was affected. They anticipate a surge in media coverage as Leonardo DiCaprio hosts a high-profile environmental gala in the region.

france· wildfires· saint tropez· leonardo dicaprio· joan collins

2:30:10 How about that, huh? A borderline drinking club. I think you may have been right with my single malt scotch. I think you are right! There's more drinking clubs such as... Well that drinking club is gonna... That's just..I think a lot of these drinking clubs so these guys stay in contact with each other So when they come up with a really good scam they can get in on it Yeah I just don't think this is it Anyway, let me see what I have. Let's do a little bit of EU news there is stuff that is not being covered in the United States and Tina and I left just in time. Curious onlookers surveyed the scene of total devastation after wildfires broke out overnight in southern France French authorities ordered evacuation of 10 000 people as fires jumped around the Riviera for a third day Most of those evacuated were residents who were given shelter in local gymnasiums We were well received they offered food

2:31:03 but we had no appetite. We took a few belongings quickly, we closed the house and left. We were afraid for our house." The blaze was the latest of several wind-whipped fires that are threatening residential areas on a peninsula west of Saint Tropez destroying more than 5,000 hectares of land and injuring over 20 rescue workers The situation now appears to be under control at La Croix-Valmaire in the Va region and at Artygues, but not far from Marseille a new blaze is threatening the village of Carome. In Corsica fires have destroyed more than 2 000 hectares of scrubland and a new water dropping plane has arrived on the island So this got no traction uh but it will and I can guarantee you it's going to happen

2:31:45 But didn't get any traction because the only celebrity that who had to flee her home was Joan Collins. Just not relevant anymore, sadly for her. Her home was about to burn down but this weekend is the big Retardo DiCaprio celebrity Get-together to save the world and that's a retarded DiCaprio Leonardo I'm sorry Leonardo DiCaprio You know everyone will be there And there'll be tons of coverage of the fires. Yes, you're right! Yeah, and just wait for it. You can just wait for it Anyway wish everyone well with that and we're not gonna do rain sticks because yeah no French never donate here's Here is What is this? Oh yes

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

UK Diesel Car Ban, Power Grid Vulnerability

The British government announced a ban on the sale of new diesel and petrol cars by 2040 to improve air quality. The hosts criticize the move toward total electrification, pointing out the inherent vulnerability of the power grid. They argue that diesel engines are more resilient in emergencies because they can run on alternative fuels like vegetable oil.

united kingdom· diesel ban· electric cars· power grid· air quality

2:32:35 The latest from the UK. Sales of new diesel and petrol cars will be banned in Britain from 2040, the government has announced as it looks to improve the country's worsening air quality. The move follows a similar pledge from the French government earlier this month and we'll see over 250 million pounds divided amongst local authorities to help them tackle rising nitrogen dioxide levels. I think it is critically important that local and central governments work together. Local governments will know what's the right solution for each individual city affected But central government is there with the money and expertise to help. The scheme marks a shift away from traditional cars across Europe, with the mayors of Paris Madrid and Athens vowing to ban all diesel vehicles from their city centers by 2025. And it's not just the politicians who are trying to make the world a greener place. Various car manufacturers are heading down the same road with BMW unveiling its new electric Mini and Volvo having recently announced that its car catalog will be entirely electric or hybrid-electric by 2019

2:33:34 I gotta tell you, last night we lost power for several hours. I mean it was...I couldn't do any prep work and just some on our phones is all we had And this is not typical for a high-rise building and when you're on the 29th floor like yeah I don't really don't like this Yeah but I don't want to have be stuck in elevator or not or now have to walk down or worse walk up And you notice, I mean how because we were about to sit down and watch some TV. You know we always like scan from Tucker to Pooper to Rachel...scan around and it goes on that's-you're completely dead

2:34:13 And I'm thinking, yeah and how about charging your electric car? It seems like such a dumb idea to have everybody in electric vehicles. What is the number one thing that we're always worried about? The grid! The grid! Oh it's so vulnerable the grid oh if they get the grid... If there's an EMP, the grid. Yet everyone, oohh I want a battery car which I charge from the grid. That's a good point. I don't understand it. And then I wanted diesel and that's the first thing they're getting rid of is the diesels Because a diesel you can pretty much urinate in the tank and it'll run. You can put all kinds of stuff... Yeah, you could do that. You could put just salad oil into the diesel. Yeah, you can put anything into diesel and its gonna run. Yeah okay maybe but even- you don't even want a petrol gasoline fired car. You want a diesel! And thats the one that is- Oh nasty diesels get out of here! Thats the ones they're getting rid off first. If I wasn't a conspirionist since these years

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Self-Driving Cars, Audi Native Advertising

A CBS News report on self-driving cars is critiqued by the hosts as potential native advertising for Audi. The report discusses the need for unified federal laws and infrastructure changes, such as thicker lane markers, to accommodate autonomous vehicles. The hosts mock the idea that self-driving cars will "save lives" by allowing people to procreate in the back seat.

audi· self-driving cars· cbs news· native advertising· volkswagen group

2:35:13 I'd say there's something up with that and we shouldn't be so stupid. Well, add in the self-driving element which is also in play now I do have a self driving car clip that kind of follows on okay But I want you to guess this is on CBS. I'm convinced that this is native advertising Oh, but I'm sure it's not yes Okay, yeah see well CBS is always ABC with me but I got this on CBS and I'm thinking it looks like self, it looks like a native to me. You can kind of guess who it is." Here in the United States car companies are racing to get self-driving cars on the highways but what are the new rules of the road as Chris Van Cleave reports federal regulators are lagging behind

2:35:55 Starting next year, a largely autonomous Audi hits the highways. I can take over anytime and just grabbing the wheel This fall students at the University of Michigan will be hopping on this driverless bus across campus Carmakers are promising mass-market fully self driving vehicles by 2021 And tech companies like Uber and Google could deploy them much sooner. California is already readying its roads, replacing raised lane markers with six-inch thick solid lines because they're easier for self driving cars to see But what's not ready are the rules. Scott Keough from Audi. So I think we need definitions, we need the government and states to set laws that are all united and unified around this And there needs to be a little bit less PT Barnumism when everyone is throwing around these terms Right now only 23 states in the District of Columbia have laws on books about self-driving cars As this technology gets out on the road

2:36:48 We want to make sure it is safe, that it truly is ready for prime time. The concept behind this bill is to try and create some certainty, some clarity, so people know what those rules are going to be." That could happen in the coming days. Republican Senator John Thune and Democrat Gary Peters plan to present rare bipartisan legislation setting standards for safety, cybersecurity, and guidelines to determine accident liability if no one's driving Do you feel real deadline pressure then to get this done? It's only a matter of time and that horizon is coming very quickly at us. And I think we have to be prepared for that. Hopefully, we can all get around the fact that this is an incredibly exciting technology that's going to save literally tens of thousands of lives. Or create them!

2:37:34 Our self-driving car created 10,000 new people because we didn't have to drive. We were in the back seat Yeah this is clearly a native ad for Audi the Volkswagen group Who only in March announced its new subsidiary called the autonomous intelligent driving That's just what it's called AID and it will work for the entire volkswagen group Which is audi porsche volkswagen? Bentley Bugatti Lamborghini And say out in Skoda. Yeah sure there, but they have their own They want to compete a rock they are it's kind of frightening though that the technology you know of Self-driving cars is so pathetic that you have to have bigger lines So they can see we know where not to drive I did not like that now of course not as crazy It's not nice at all well since you did that little tech news and

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

AncestryDNA, Mormon Church Database

The hosts discuss AncestryDNA commercials that encourage people to identify as "everything" rather than having a specific national identity. They note that Ancestry.com is owned by the Mormon Church, which they claim is building the world's largest database of human genetic and genealogical information.

ancestrydna· mormon church· dna testing· globalism· database

2:38:29 I'm not going to play the jingle, but...I figure we might as well play the tech news that's passing as Tech News and mock it. How does that sound? Okay. Yeah? Let's start with a-well this is kind of Tech News. Ancestry dot com-AncestryDNA dot com Have you seen these commercials? Yes, I have. I find them to be creepy and listen to what this woman does here. It's very Hispanic So when I got my ancestry DNA results it was a shocker. I'm everything I'm from all nations I would look at forms now and wonder what do I mark because I'm everything

2:39:09 Marked other discover the story only your DNA can tell order your kit now at ancestry dna.com This is fantastic It's exactly what I predicted that didn't you? 23andme Ancestrydna.com all a part of making you feel like you're part of one big world No nations, no borders were all the same people so i just mark myself as other And you know ancestry and Ancestry.com and AncestryDNA.com I believe are owned by the Mormon Church. I believe so who add that to the world's biggest database of people Yeah, they're doing a good job there Yes They are the Google they really truly our Google now this I just love this This commercial we know that Amazon They bid on

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Amazon Go, Whole Foods Automation

Amazon is introducing "Amazon Go" technology, which uses computer vision and "sensor fusion" to allow customers to shop without checkout lines. The hosts speculate that this technology will eventually be implemented at Whole Foods to eliminate human employees. They express skepticism about how the system will handle spills, theft, or power outages.

amazon go· whole foods· automation· machine learning· sensor fusion

2:40:02 Whole Foods and everyone's all speculating what are they gonna do? What's uh, what how well they're going to use these are there keep the business going or they do The very interesting deal by the way I saw that the whole foods came out with great great numbers for their quarter Which makes the acquisition even more expensive so just crazy So here is the Amazon Go, which is what you can expect. This is their own commercial you can expect them to do because this is opening up in Seattle and it seems like this is what they will have... What'll be going on at Whole Foods. Pretty much no people

2:40:40 So I can explain it and then I want you to hear the commercial. You see, you walk in, you have a QR code on your phone, you scan it just like you're going through some airport terminals or even like your boarding card, you scan it, you go in and then you just take anything you want put it in your bag. The minute you take it off the shelf, it knows that you took it, but then it adds it to your shopping cart, to your bill before you sign out of it. It'll know that you took it? You're gonna hear you're gonna hear some of the techno lot dude Machine learning, okay. This is this is the whole point of this clip and then you walk out So I'm sure it's done with Bluetooth and near-field technology etc But the way they make a sound is very different Four years ago we started to wonder what would shopping look like if you could walk into a store grab what you want? And just go

2:41:37 What if we could weave the most advanced machine learning, computer vision and AI? Whoa! Machine Learning Computer Vision and AI. John can we weave that? Yeah, I think so. And AI into the very fabric of a store so you never have to wait in line! No lines no checkouts and no registers... NO PEOPLE! Welcome to Amazon Go! Well holla! Use the Amazon go app to enter then put away your phone and start shopping! Shop? Shop?! It's really that simple! Yay! Take whatever you like

2:42:18 Anything you pick up is automatically added to your virtual cart. Get ready for it! If you change your mind about that cupcake, just put it back Our technology will update your virtual cart automatically Dynamite So how does it work? How does it work?! We used computer vision deep learning algorithms Write it down this is for a column Computer Vision Deep Learning Algorithms Sensor Fusion Wait I'm sorry gotta get the whole sequence Here we go How does it work? So, how does it work? We used computer vision deep learning algorithms and sensor fusion much like you'd find in self-driving cars. Centrifusion! I'm gonna go shop thank God Amazon's provided me with some centrifugion otherwise It will be very difficult At sensor fusion much like you'd find in self driving cars we call it just walk out technology Just Walk Out Technology or JWOT

2:43:23 These people are crazy. So what happens when, let's say 50 inner city youths decide they're just going to go in and take everything out of the place? And so they go barreling in as a group grab what they can and leave with like half the store Amazon security will swoop down on you with a drone But what happens if you go in there and you just knock over a whole display, and it busted up all over the place? Since there's nobody working there to clean it up. I'm sorry... I am here to help you clean up the Amazon robot. The next guy comes by and slips on it And he says sues the store. I mean this has got disaster written all over it This is totally in line with what everybody is saying about carbon emissions

2:44:21 or I should say carbon dioxide emissions, is we need less people. It's going to be great! Get rid of those people who used to work at the Whole Foods—the baggers—get rid of everybody, the people who know about the cheese. Don't want to talk to them. I'm sure there'll be some screen that can tell me what cheese is best for my muscles. Get rid of all that." You know, the funny thing is, is the Whole Foods which is...I don't really think much of the store they have a good selection of certain kinds of things And they have a checkout system that's pretty efficient. I don't really have to, I don't see myself waiting in long lines to get out of there because what they're selling this as is Oh no lines when we go oh my God! No lines...I'm just breezing in and breezing out..no lines now what the story should be wouldn't it be great if we had a business with no annoying employees?

2:45:16 Yeah, that would be great. I know! Let's buy a really big brand and get rid of all the annoying employees your number one deficit on your balance sheet. Eh... But I just liked all the technology they were deploying. I mean it doesn't see guys the stuff We never heard of and by the way when our fragile grid goes down hmm How about you? 50 inner-city youths use can go barrel in into the place hey we tried to pay shit I'll be in there like Amazon GoGo, Go love it

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

Washington State Distracted Driving Law, Laptop Rules

Washington State has implemented a strict new distracted driving law that forbids holding electronic devices even when stopped in traffic and cracks down on eating or applying makeup while driving. One host shares an anecdote about being forbidden from using a laptop on a parked TAM Airlines flight, highlighting the absurdity of certain safety regulations.

washington state· distracted driving· eating· cell phones· tam airlines

2:45:52 And then this go in there you could actually go in there when the grid goes on. You're going to flash your little, you can do your Q code too. The thing is not gonna see it or you're gonna think he did it and you're not gonna whatever you grab stuff you leave. And of course she won't use any money. They'll be virtual just invisible money. It's beautiful this world we're going towards well I have if we were talking about technology of sorts, I have a mobile phone story since we should be talking about phones all the whole show Okay, here's an interesting one Washington law this is a new law in the mobile phones and even eating And the spokesman review of Spokane says Washington state drivers may no longer hold electronic devices The tougher new law forbids using devices when stopped in traffic Exceptions will be made for emergency calls first-time offenders will be fined $136.00 the law also cracks down on distractions like eating or applying makeup Okay

2:46:50 Okay, so we have this law. You can't eat a burger in the car in Washington State anymore? We have this law in Austin which is that even if you're stopped in traffic you cannot touch your phone. $400! The eating thing is new though I like that Have you read the law have you ever loved? You looked at it now Yeah, but I'm a you know. I know it's dumb and it's because you know if you stopped or pulled over whatever you could should be able to go on your phone yeah, I'm Reminded of my one time story. I've told before I'm in Brazil taking Tam Airlines is this when the hooker robbed you no there's a different story

2:47:36 I'm in Tam Airlines and we're parked at the gate, they're loading passengers. And I open my laptop to do a little work while we were waiting for the plane to be loaded. The stewardess comes over and she says sir you cannot use that laptop on the plane. Oh! I said why? She says it's only allowed after 10,000 feet so the plan is parked But I can't use it because the rule is you can only use a laptop after 10,000 feet. Right? This is idiotic! Yeah yeah that's kind of what we're dealing with here. Well that law...that's now gone. We all had that problem back in the day. No this was recently

2:48:23 Oh, like I thought this was years ago. This is just... It wasn't that long ago it was during the period where yeah you could use everyone lets you can use your laptop when your parked and planes not going anywhere it's when it takes off you're supposed to close it down That's the rules Mr. Dubarack! You should follow the rules Alright, I have one last dumb story. It was a big story and the dumbness is all i wanted to point out. Maybe the end or the beginning of the end for core part of the windows operating system That got my attention! A core part of the Windows Operating System is going to be removed John did you hear not hear about this? Is just a column I just wrote about Microsoft Paint Yes

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

Microsoft Paint Retirement, Ageist Media Jokes

Microsoft announced that the classic Paint program will no longer be updated in Windows 10, though it will remain available as a download. The hosts critique a news segment where a younger reporter made ageist jokes about the program's longevity. They joke that they didn't even realize Paint was still a part of the operating system.

microsoft paint· windows 10· technology· media jokes· ageism

2:49:07 It's a core part of the Microsoft Windows operating system. Who would call it that? Douchebags! Maybe the end, or the beginning of the end for a core part of the Windows operating system. Microsoft says they will no longer update the Paint program starting with the fall update to Windows 10 The software giant was quick to say paint isn't going away It will still be available as a free download. Paint had been part of Windows since the first version in 1985. Now just, I want to hold this for second then i want you to respond... So now this guy is going to be incredibly ageist towards his co-host, who it seems like she's the exact same age as him. But in general just being a dick. Since the first version in 1985... Yeah! Do you remember Paint? Absolutely I love Paint Really? Like you'd log on your AOL account and be like oh I'm gonna use Windows Paint. Checking update your MySpace page Wow nice

2:50:08 She does a modem sound. That was pretty good, I liked it! Good modem sounds Yeah you wrote a column about this? Yeah he did But i got to use the old joke This is a setup joke you use once in awhile You use this on...this is classic set up joke where you go So I understand that Microsoft Paint Is being taken out of Windows I was stunned, I was shocked I didn't know that it was still available. That's kind of the way that joke works. Anyway, I have one... It does. Who wants to set up jokes? No no no but- It has to be structured As long as you have like a fun end because i got one thing we have to do about Poland. I have a fun end Okay let me do Poland and then well uh you'll end it up okay? Okay Right?!

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Poland Judicial Reform, EU Article 7.1 Threat

The European Union has threatened to trigger Article 7.1 of the Lisbon Treaty against Poland, which would strip the country of its voting rights, over proposed judicial reforms. A "boots on the ground" report from a listener suggests that many Poles support the reforms as a way to purge communist-era holdovers from the judiciary. The hosts frame the EU's reaction as elite interference in sovereign affairs.

poland· european union· frans timmermans· lisbon treaty· communism

2:51:02 The EU's given Poland one month to allay its concerns over judicial reform plans. The prospect of Polish politicians firing and replacing judges prompted the ultimatum, Warsaw risks punishment for not respecting common laws and values. Commission recommends that Polish authorities to solve all the problems identified within one month The Commission's recommendation asks... This is Frans Timmermans by the way, the vice president of the council and he's literally said viewers have this in within one month. Solve all the problems identified within one month The commission's recommendation asks the Polish authorities not to take any measure to dismiss or force the retirement Of Supreme Court judges if such a measure is taken the commissioners ready to immediately trigger the article 7 1

2:51:50 procedure. Well, it is blackmailing because he said we'll trigger Article 7.1 and I remember all this... Our show started around the time of all these shenanigans called the Lisbon Treaty and I remembered this was a point of contention And now it's being called an archaic clause that was stuffed away somewhere into the Lisbon Treaty It might have even been in the protocols I think it was probably in the big document

2:52:37 And there was discussion over it. Don't worry about it, just shut up! Revote! Do over!" And this is the article that allows the commission when they trigger Article 7.1 they can remove voting rights from from the country in question across the board in Parliament everywhere everywhere their representative vote is taken away and he just gave them one month So, I asked for boots on the ground reporting and I received it. Thank goodness! Did I receive it from someone who's Polish? No Tom Shinoni, I believe He says Adam I returned from a visit to Poland to visit with my fiancee's family I was listening to Sunday show on the flight back and you asked for report on situation Since I love this show I was asking her family all about the political situation in order to report back to you guys anyway Hopefully this helps out See THIS is what we love

2:53:39 This is good. So we were confused about what is actually going on, because there are a lot of articles that break down the law and what the provisions are as well as articles outlining the pros and cons of what's at hand One angle that news articles have not really covered is the West is the, in the West is the communist angle. Many supporters of this law including my future-in laws see it as a tool to purge communist collaborators and sympathizers of the former Polish Communist government out of power Currently, judges are appointed by a board consisting of jurists. Which is the same way it's done in the Netherlands and it's very crappy system because when a judge can't make it they just hire a lawyer. Just a random lawyer who of course is going to be completely bipartisan obviously unless maybe you know you hire his law firm for something else

2:54:33 Currently, jurors. The PIS and their supporters believe this board to be full of communist sympathizers as well as elitists. They do not like the fact that there is not a mechanism for politicians to oust judges." They pointed out to me that the president selects all federal judges with consent of the Senate in the US and that this is the type of system they want. They feel these laws are step towards that. So I that's rings true to me. I think that makes sense Oh, yes, that's interesting It does kind of ring true because it's not a bad system No, I think it works very well You know we get to pick or do you get to pick but then we the other guys We get to approve it's a very good system and that's what they want so I think this to me This rings true

2:55:24 So the EU is just being a bunch of dicks? Of course, they can't have this. You can't have unapproved politicians not approved by Starfleet command you can't have them just willy-nilly being in charge of anything This is elitism at the top of its game, is the way I see it. Top of its game! Well we'll have to follow because nobody's following in M5M now and by the way he ended up saying that he also asked about the visa waiver program they said yeah they really hope he makes due on his promise but even if that didn't happen they still like Trump Yeah that doesn't surprise me That's the Melania vibe I'm sure

2:56:03 Yeah, oh absolutely. But isn't it just crazy what these European... I mean you're seeing countries like Poland saying you know EU no we don't want to do it that way? No they don't want people doing their own thing! It's unbelievable and why don't they see it?! People should be resisting much By the way, we're not going to have the meetup this Saturday. There will be a website devorek.org slash MEETUP dot htm that I will post Is the HTM in caps?

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

Musical Whiskey Aging, Show Outro

The hosts debunk a PR-driven story about a distillery that uses music vibrations to age whiskey, comparing it to pseudo-scientific theories about water crystals. They announce that there will be no meetup this Saturday and sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, thanking their producers and the chat room.

whiskey· vibrations· water crystals· austin· silicon valley

2:56:39 No, actually no. It should be dot htm in all caps because that's how Microsoft used to print their HTML documents. Dot html all uppercase and they have problems. Anyway I'll give everyone an update shortly now there will be an update on Sunday I have one story that first, I saw it on Good Morning America and then I thought the clip's dumb. And then I started seeing it start cropping up and this is a local version of the same story so obviously some public relations company working for a whiskey brewer

2:57:20 has come up with this bull crap story that's a public interest story. I don't think it is native advertising, i think this is one of those oh that's a great story and the story is malarkey and this is the bull crap story about music and booze. Well music is powerful because its strong enough to change how something tastes A Northern California craft whiskey distiller has been experimenting with this for a few years. They put music, they pump the music into select barrels of whisky. They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led Zeppelin barrel and they believe that these sound vibrations expand and contract the wood and then it molds different tastes. The bluegrass and nutcracker ballet barrels are most popular

2:58:11 They test better, believe it or not than non-musical whiskey. I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good. Okay... Everybody bought into this one! We could do this We could do this. We could make water, just pure water so we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals and when you put a note love underneath the bottle then the crystals look all beautiful if you put a note you know No Note or Hate then the crystals they look all maligned and all deformed And we can have our beautiful wonderful Noah Jenda Water which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours I think it's a plan It's our exit strategy

2:58:58 Yeah, baby exit strategy as pathetic as it sounds. It's about the best we got not everybody We return on Sunday for another edition of the best podcast in universe Thank you very much to all the producers execs associates and our legion of producers alike Thank you to the boys in the back void zero sir Bim Rose The mods a chat room I love you all I really do I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps. It is the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i remain I am John C. Dvorak we return on Sunday right here noagendastream.com make sure you come check us out live if you can until then as always aaaaaaahhh adios mofos!

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Hawaii Missile Preparedness, Duck and Cover

The show concludes with a discussion of Hawaii's new preparedness plan for a potential North Korean missile strike, which includes "sheltering in place." The hosts play vintage "Duck and Cover" audio, characterizing the modern warnings as a form of state-sponsored terrorism designed to keep the public in a state of fear.

hawaii· north korea· missile defense· duck and cover· radioactivity

3:00:23 So the atomic bomb is very dangerous. Since it may be used against us, we must get ready for it just as we are ready for many other dangers that are around us all the time. That's why these children are practicing to duck and cover just as you do in your school. First you duck then you cover. First you duck then you cover. and very tightly to cover the back of your neck, your face. Duck and cover underneath a table or desk or anything else close by You may be in your schoolyard playing when the signal comes That means duck and cover fast wherever you are There's no time to look around First you duck then you cover First you duck then you cover

3:01:21 This is what to do if you should be in a corner. You duck and cover tight against the wall this way Remember to keep your face and the back of your neck covered tightly Be like Bert Duck, then cover, and do it fast! And cover! Duck roll and cover shelter in place I love Hawaii You duck and then you cover It's a play of adventures with just one single

3:02:02 Officials in Hawaii, they are rolling out a preparedness plan which includes sheltering in place in the event North Korea launches a missile. The new bogus story about they're gonna again by the way we played the clip just a few weeks ago back from about two or three years ago where the North Koreans were gonna bomb Hawaii. This was like three years ago they were gonna bomb Hawaii and we're doing it now We moved a bunch of ships nearby that had anti-missile technology. And the Pentagon is beating up our missile defense system to protect Hawaii from a North Korean missile attack, deploying giant radar and missile interceptors to the Hawaiian islands I know what you're thinking and your right This is terrorism right here this is terrorism Terrorism

3:02:50 Put up these bogus stories and then scare the Hawaii. We can't scare the people in Seattle because you could hit Seattle from North Korea as easy as you can Hawaii. Oh my God! The chance that your being hurt by an atomic bomb is slight, since there is a chance You must know how to protect yourself Stay down for about one minute By then the danger of radioactivity heat and blast have passed Another bomb may fall Just push This is about 2020. The only real takeaway, the only one that matters is that our president of the United States is enabling our enemy the President of Russia. Enemy? This is about 2020. Juliette Kael

3:03:58 in the house. In the house, water it down and water it down in the house. This is about 2020. Water it down in the house. This is about 2020. We're not that we're not leaders where we do news deconstruction Juliette KM in the house What is wrong with you?

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