Episode 940 · Thursday, 22 June 2017

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A Republican victory in Georgia triggers a Democratic identity crisis while legal experts and cultural critics warn of a total collapse in American civil discourse.

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About this episode

Democratic strategist Jim Devine faces intense backlash following a controversial tweet using the hashtag Hunt Republicans after the shooting of GOP congressmen at a Virginia baseball field. During a heated exchange with Tucker Carlson, Devine attempted to justify the rhetoric by citing past Second Amendment comments from Sarah Palin and Rand Paul. The incident highlights a shifting Democratic strategy as party leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Jon Ossoff navigate the fallout of the Georgia special election loss.

Legal expert Alan Dershowitz warns that the criminalization of political differences in the investigation of Donald Trump poses a direct threat to civil liberties. Dershowitz asserts that the President held constitutional authority to fire James Comey, comparing current legal tactics to those of Lavrentiy Beria. Meanwhile, the Senate Intelligence Committee heard testimony from DHS and FBI officials regarding Russian probing of election systems in 21 states, though Jay Johnson noted that national security warnings were largely eclipsed by the release of the Access Hollywood tape. In international waters, the Navy investigates a suspicious collision between the USS Fitzgerald and the ACX Crystal that resulted in the deaths of seven sailors.

Professor Camille Paglia offers a scathing critique of modern journalism, arguing that secular humanism is failing due to a lack of spiritual depth. In a lighter moment, the hosts deconstruct the 16 Personalities test, where one identifies as a free-spirited Campaigner while the other dismisses the profile as high-level horoscope nonsense. The episode concludes with a look at the European Commission's new regulations on Belgian fries and the Supreme Court's ruling on offensive trademarks for the band The Slants.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

California Earthquake Experience and Fracking Concerns

John C. Dvorak describes a 3.3 magnitude earthquake that occurred near his home in Kensington, California, noting the specific deep bass frequencies associated with seismic events. The discussion transitions to the increase in earthquakes across the United States, specifically in Oklahoma and Texas, which is attributed to fracking activities. Criticism is leveled at state governments for a perceived lack of respect for citizens affected by these man-made tremors.

california· kensington· earthquake· fracking· oklahoma· texas· momentum scale

00:00 I moisturize I look like a teenager. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 22 2017. This is your award winning get my nation media assassination episode 94. This is no agenda. shifting focus from big data to And broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the drones, Star State, in the Cluedio, in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got sirens and earthquakes, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Whoa, what's going on, Brosim? Well, there's sirens right now, but there was an earthquake yesterday. It was a good one. Oh, it was just a couple of miles from the house. So it obviously would shake the place. What magnitude on the momentum scale since we know it's not right. But it was a three. They said it was a three point three, but it's in Kensington and I was kind of right on top of it. So it was like enough. I think it lasted about a second.

00:56 But as soon as you'd hear it coming, and I grabbed the chair saying I just hope this doesn't last long and It didn't last long. What's one of those was it one of those rolling ones? Those are the freaky ones I find the rolling ones well the rolling ones are usually usually caused by something happening at some distance away and then there's the typical one we get around here, which is a little ones are the Truck I call them truck crash uh-huh you'd swear that a truck Just hit your house right just boom and This was like I kind of in between it was rolling a little bit But it was just like it just stopped. It just didn't get going it didn't get going. Yeah, I don't miss that I always worry about is when I have one of those because it I

01:48 it'll typically be a preliminary, like you get this little thing that happens like this little one second job and then all of a sudden, then you start hearing a lot, kind of a weird noise, a deep bass. I've never had one with noise. Well, they all have noise. But you get the deep bass note. Just a deep bass note, I think that drives people out of the state. During the 89 event, there was so much deep bass that people just left because it's unnerving. It affects your innards. And just from that one... A five cycle note, a three cycle note, something like that, it's not very comfortable. Let's find out exactly what that is so I can replicate it and put it on the show.

02:38 You won't be able to get it through the system. Oh, that's right. It's too low. I think Skype's bottom is not at 100. If that. So, uh, Skype. Anyway, so that has a negative effect on the body and it freaks people out and they leave because it's so uncomfortable. But anyway, so you get this one blast and that's a prelude to the, you'll hear something and then all of a sudden things start to shake and it starts slow and then, then you know you're screwed. That's just for all you people out there who haven't experienced any earthquakes whatsoever. Although most of the country is experiencing them now from all the fracking. From all the fracking, yeah. Even in Texas, we've had them.

03:21 Yeah, you've had any in Austin? Not that I can recall since being here. But we're a little protected zone here, John. Nothing happens to the blue center of the red state. It's all beautiful here. It's harmony. It seems to me that places like Oklahoma where they have all these little fracking quakes, they say they have no respect for their own citizens. No. Since when is that new? Yes, it's a fact. Yes. You know, John, I've been trying to be on my beats and watching everything diligently. Boy, oh boy. Once you know about the amygdala situation, I'm obsessed with it now. I have received so many pieces of feedback, email, people who've been in treatment who say, yeah, for

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

Amygdala Enlargement, PTSD, and Lady Gaga Claims

A discussion regarding brain physiology focuses on the enlargement of the amygdala and the diminishment of the frontal cortex in patients with trauma and eating disorders. Reference is made to clinical treatments at Stanford and other facilities that use meditation to rebuild synapses between brain centers. The hosts analyze Lady Gaga's public statements regarding PTSD, with an aside mentioning a producer's theory regarding her personal needs.

amygdala· ptsd· lady gaga· mri· frontal cortex· synapses· stanford

04:20 One of my friends has an eating disorder and she went into a clinic for a while and what they do there is they do MRI, MFRI, MFRIs, MRIs, FMRIs, FMRI. What's the F? It's some other kind. It's not the one where you get in the whole tube but the FMRI is like lightweight. It's actually what the brain professor does over at Stanford. You know, the one that doesn't talk to me anymore? Yeah, the guy because he's a he's because his amygdala has gotten too big. Exactly. Anybody who should be I mean, he has the equipment right there. You can go check it. But when so here's here's what I know. There's a whole bit different, a whole bunch of different reasons this can happen. But we were kind of laughing, not laughing, but we were trying to understand the Lady Gaga situation where she said she had PTSD or actually PICS or whatever. Let's just say PTSD.

05:13 PTSD comes in many different forms, clinically speaking. And you can have all kinds of trauma and an eating disorder can certainly bring about trauma to the body and thus to the brain. And what they saw in this clinic is that the amygdala was enlarged and the frontal cortex was diminished. And what they focused on a lot in treatment was helping to rebuild the synapses between those two brain centers, because of course they do communicate with each other. But through meditation and other things to quote rebuild the synapses between them So this stuff is I mean you you really hit a gem, but I think on the level of pipelines quite honestly looking at this thing because it's just now you just see it everywhere and I Yeah, I was gonna say I do want to do one aside. Mm-hmm we had a producer wrote me said that if you read the

06:16 Lady Gaga stuff carefully. It sounds like she's she is the she says I'm not having my needs met She said if you look at this sexually it seems as though they're not giving her enough male prostitutes or something in the back well Again that we don't know what kind of trauma she may or may not have had and this isn't my place to guess It seemed, but yeah, well, so if anything right after the show I received a ton of people saying, oh, this is just like Katy Perry. I think we might have even discussed it briefly. Oh, you know, I know we're going to go with this because Katy Perry's had her Britney Spears moment supposedly. I believe this is a publicity stunt completely. I don't believe a word of any of this. No, I have a package from Access Hollywood, which as you know, is just as good as, you know,

07:09 Nightline yeah, there's never any access Hollywood bullcrap and not but he ever pays to be on that show well Let me tell you she's doing a real good job. If this is fake. I really want to be my authentic self like a hundred percent and So it hurts. You know when I don't feel like I can Did you ever have some bouts of where Katie just couldn't didn't want to go on? Yeah, I wrote a song about it. That's how I process, is I write songs. And you get rid of those feelings. Well, yeah, some of them. Katie is just an explosion. She keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. To her multi-hued hair colors as the reigning queen of pop. Some of them don't come out fully and that's why I still do the work. Which song was that? What lyric comes to your mind? By the Grace of God.

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Katy Perry Publicity Stunt and Political Trauma

Katy Perry's recent public emotional struggles and interviews on Access Hollywood are characterized as potential publicity stunts to promote her new album and tour. The analysis suggests that her distress may be a genuine reaction to the 2016 election of Donald Trump, given her vocal support for Hillary Clinton. Comparisons are made to Britney Spears' historical breakdown, questioning the authenticity of Perry's "authentic self" rebranding.

katy perry· access hollywood· hillary clinton· donald trump· depression· publicity stunt

06:16 Lady Gaga stuff carefully. It sounds like she's she is the she says I'm not having my needs met She said if you look at this sexually it seems as though they're not giving her enough male prostitutes or something in the back well Again that we don't know what kind of trauma she may or may not have had and this isn't my place to guess It seemed, but yeah, well, so if anything right after the show I received a ton of people saying, oh, this is just like Katy Perry. I think we might have even discussed it briefly. Oh, you know, I know we're going to go with this because Katy Perry's had her Britney Spears moment supposedly. I believe this is a publicity stunt completely. I don't believe a word of any of this. No, I have a package from Access Hollywood, which as you know, is just as good as, you know,

07:09 Nightline yeah, there's never any access Hollywood bullcrap and not but he ever pays to be on that show well Let me tell you she's doing a real good job. If this is fake. I really want to be my authentic self like a hundred percent and So it hurts. You know when I don't feel like I can Did you ever have some bouts of where Katie just couldn't didn't want to go on? Yeah, I wrote a song about it. That's how I process, is I write songs. And you get rid of those feelings. Well, yeah, some of them. Katie is just an explosion. She keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. To her multi-hued hair colors as the reigning queen of pop. Some of them don't come out fully and that's why I still do the work. Which song was that? What lyric comes to your mind? By the Grace of God.

08:03 I was going through some depressing dark times. Surprising, with that trademark Harry fun. They're heartfelt. It's hard, like I say, get on tour. Okay. And it's hard because... I'm ashamed. It's been one wild ride for Perry and one vastly different from her upbringing. You did admit to having once had suicidal thoughts. Very low thoughts. Very low thoughts. Yeah, it's hard because I feel ashamed that I would even like have those thoughts, you know, and feel that low or that depressed. Her first album was Gospel under her real name, Katie Hudson. I so badly want to be Katherine Hudson that I don't even want

08:44 to look like Katy Perry anymore sometimes. That upbringing makes her first hit song all the more surprising. It was that song about kissing a girl that launched her career. And like, that is a little bit of why I cut my hair, is because I really want to be my authentic self. Now, I understand why you say that you may not believe any of this, but I think I can trace back the PTSD moment that hit her and that really affected her. And that's a very obvious one. It didn't affect you and I. We probably don't give a crap other than for the show. But the moment Trump won.

09:27 I think that was a huge traumatic event for people like Katie Perry. She was a huge, major Hillary, Hillary lot. Yes, yes, yes. All in, I'm sure. And I know that. And she was probably affected negatively by it too. But this whole thing, it's possible, but this whole thing, when she says, when they're asking her all these questions, well I wrote a song about it, I mean that's a promotion. She's doing the interview because she's promoting her album and tour, obviously. Britney Spears, you know, didn't go through these interviews during this period when I think she had a real breakdown. Yeah, but that was not an amygdala issue. That was something else. Well, whatever the case, this whole thing seems... I'm not going to argue about the fact that she was disappointed that Hillary didn't win because she was a huge supporter. I think she came out with a lot of

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Jim Devine, Hunt Republicans Tweet, and Tucker Carlson Interview

Democratic strategist Jim Devine is criticized for a tweet using the hashtag "Hunt Republicans" following the shooting of Republican congressmen at a baseball field. During an interview with Tucker Carlson, Devine attempts to justify his rhetoric by citing past comments from Sarah Palin and Rand Paul regarding the Second Amendment. The segment highlights new Democratic talking points regarding the Republican healthcare bill and the popular vote versus the general election.

jim devine· tucker carlson· rand paul· second amendment· healthcare bill· republican baseball shooting

10:16 videos and things about it. But this is kind of... Okay, well then let's move on. I'm just not buying it at all. We'll move away from Katy Perry. Let me give you a couple other examples. Jim Devine, do you know this guy? Jim Devine? He's a Democratic strategist. No. Well, so I'm sure he's a fine Democratic strategist. Oh, they're all great. And so a couple hours after the shooting of the Republican baseball team, He tweeted, hashtag hunt Republicans. Oh yes, this guy and I saw him on Tucker. It was on Tucker, right? So I cut it down. They got nowhere. This is an example of a dead end interview with Tucker. Yeah, but I pulled out the bits that just show how insane this guy in particular is.

11:06 Which to me, just looking at his head, I'm thinking, yeah, that amygdala's oversized, bro. And I don't think there's anything- So by saying hunt Republican- Hunt Republicans. There's nothing wrong with that. Sarah Palin put the crosshairs on Congress. I'm just saying hunt Republicans instead of Democrats. First of all, Sarah Palin didn't do that. A group affiliated with her did. And it's a difference between a metaphor and actually suggesting a firm legal hunt Republicans after Republicans have just been shot. She put up a boast About her Republican bullseyes. What point are you making? That that's okay? What I'm making the point is that after year after year after year of hearing the same kind of violent rhetoric from the right, the left has every reason to come forward and stand up. What I've learned in life is that when you're confronted with bullies, you have to fight fire with fire. What is your point?

12:01 I'm saying that Democrats have to be more aggressive in the face of political issues, in the face of the opposition. We have members of people, one of the persons who was on that field who spoke about how terrifying it was, was Senator Rand Paul. You're about to see a fine example of what happens when your amygdala is enlarged. You get very confused. Senator Rand Paul retweeted something from Andrew Napolitano that said, the reason we have a second amendment is not so people can hunt deer, it's so that they can shoot at a tyrannical government. You know, when I heard this guy say that, which is something that I totally agree. I totally agree. That's, you know, for a moment there, I was like, well, you know, quite fairly, I've heard Republicans say this all my life. A lot of gun guys say this. Yeah. Well, I agree. Republicans are not Republicans. A lot of them are whatever. Right. But I've never really heard a Democrat on television use this.

12:58 Ever that I can ever can you know? Sorry not a proclaimed Democrat. I mean maybe a Democrat has said it but they're right not I just thought that was interesting at a tyrannical government. So what's your point? My point is Tucker is very simply no, absolutely not but my point is that when you put up obstacles to people voting when you secretly plot in to in the Senate to repeal health care that's keeping 50,000 Americans alive. He forgot to say otherwise. He forgot to say kicking 25 million off. Erecting barriers. He said keeping 50,000 alive. What does that even refer to? He's completely lost. No, this is the new talking point. This is a new talking point. The Republicans are doing the health care bill in secret, you see, secret, secret. And now instead of you're going to kick people off health care, which by itself is wrong because it's health care insurance, not health care.

13:52 This is this we got to remind people of that. This is becoming back in a way. It's really shitty. So it's not it's not bad enough. It just it's not working. Maybe people don't believe it, but it's not working. So instead, it's keeping 50,000 people alive. New talking point. Those Americans alive and you're otherwise erecting barriers to hold on a second. What is the basis for that comment? I don't know. I don't know. It's a new talking point. I didn't trace it, honestly. But I want to look into this. All right, you look at it. And you're otherwise erecting barriers to the democratic process where we have elections where the people that get the most votes don't win. I mean, even that, that is beyond the stupid... The talking point was Hillary won the general election. We all know how the elections work in the United States. No, Hillary won the popular vote. The popular vote. She didn't win the general election. I'm sorry, the popular vote. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

14:50 So everyone knows how it works, but the way it's... just listen to the morph of this line now. I think barriers to the democratic process where we have elections where the people that get the most votes don't win. I mean, what does he want? That you should be shot? What happens is... no! But that is tyrannical government. That's the point. It's the natural tyrannical government. You mean our system is tyrannical, I guess. It's the natural culmination of the- Stop with the talking points. Just get to what you're saying. I want to know what you're saying. Are you saying it's understandable and someone might shoot you if you do that? It's the natural culmination of the argument that was made by Judge Napolitano and Senator Paul Rand. If Senator Paul Rand would like to- I love that.

15:32 Yeah, it's so confusing. It's Paul Rand, I tell ya! coming together and fighting back. Oh. Fighting back how? Politically. Peacefully. Oh. Then what is this about hunting and cheer? You know what? You're an unbalanced person and I have to say... I like this. It's distressing that more Democrats haven't disavowed you. Well, I hope they will. I'm a perfectly balanced person. You don't seem it. That guy was really unhinged, John.

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Camille Paglia on Media Collapse and Secular Humanism

Professor Camille Paglia critiques the current state of American journalism, claiming the Democratic party and coastal elites have destroyed the profession. She warns of a potential societal collapse into savagery if the power grid were sabotaged, citing a lack of historical perspective in younger generations. Paglia, an atheist, also argues that secular humanism is failing because it lacks spirituality, while the hosts frame climate change as a modern "religion" or "culling."

camille paglia· media studies· journalism· secular humanism· climate change· power grid

16:19 He was unhinged. We got some analysis, although not directly related to the amygdala, but about what's going on from a professor in media studies, our friend, Camille Paglia. Oh, she'll have something to say. It's outrageous. It shows that the Democrats are nothing now but words and fantasy and hallucination and Hollywood. There's no journalism left. What's happened to The New York Times? What's happened to the major networks? It's an outrage. I'm a professor of media studies in addition to professor of humanities. And I think it's absolutely grotesque The way my party has destroyed journalism right now, it's going to take decades to recover from this atrocity. Now, she's a democrat, that's what I like about this. Where the news media have turned themselves over into the most childish, fraternity kind of buffoonish,

17:12 behavior journalism has really collapsed partly because of the arrival of the web which i adore i love writing for the web but as the different uh... cities here than to the regional newspapers have found their identity and in some cases appeared uh... what we're getting now is a concentration of news reporting coming from the coast Maybe she needs to try decaf. She needs to get off the coffee. I want you to play the rest of it, but she has not been enlightened to the point of the amygdala.

18:13 No, I don't think it's got anything to do with that. I'm just saying she does not have, she is not in on the idea that the intelligence agencies have taken over these newspapers and networks. Yes, yes. And so she's actually blaming crappy journalism when in fact it's the bought and sold aspect of the intelligence agencies, which is well documented. Somebody please send a link from noagendaplayer.com to this segment to her. Tweet it to her. She needs to hear it. We respect her a lot. She needs to understand that... And it's odd really for someone who is professor in media studies not to understand what's going on? Not to know the history of propaganda? Not to know Mockingbird or any of this stuff?

19:00 attitudes and to be humane and compassionate and so on, but they're not taught the basic framework of world history. This is why you get all this crap about how America is the worst place on earth, but it's like the freest country in the history of the world. And young people today have had absolutely no exposure to the famines and the war and the disasters of history. They need to be exposed to the past. All it will take is someone to figure out how to sabotage the power grid in the United States. And everything will collapse. We're going to return to savagery and barbarians in the street and famine. Okay, again. It's all these people who just like... Why would she even bring this up in the middle of this whole media studies rant? Why would she do that?

19:45 To prove that I think no matter what I think people will be helpless. I think this is why I respect her so much as an essayist. Because if it wasn't for the fact that she spends a lot of time on each work as opposed to most essayists, you know, you take a few hours. She spends a lot of time massaging her material to make it sound like she's sane because I've seen her before she does she says I guess she's like oh, she's like over stimulated wild person 30 seconds Everything works. They have no sense of how it works business. Okay, and the material frame of culture Okay, a capitalism. Okay, which which we met

20:26 I've been saying for 25 years that people need religion. Now, I'm an atheist, but I predicted 25 years ago that secular humanism was on the skids, and that's what's happened, because secular humanism has no spirituality. You know, she didn't really expand much on that, but I thought that was interesting. Because what is the religion for people besides climate change? That's part. Climate change is one of the big ones. That's a huge religion. She doesn't acknowledge that yet. Although we actually have a different word for it that we discussed a couple weeks ago. Climate change is the culling. Yeah, it's the culling. It's to see who falls for it.

21:12 It's your theory. I like it. I know it is. Who falls for it? But the thing is you don't know who they're gonna call. The good guys or the bad guys? Yeah, we don't know. Who's the good guys and who's the bad guys? I mean, it's possible that you could take the argument that the good guys are the ones all in on climate change because they really care. Oh, God, don't tell me that. You should check your amygdala. That's right everybody be on the lookout for big amygdalas and send clips because they are everywhere. Now, the piece that I found most surprising but most enlightening, I have to say Tucker had a good week. You know he had a appendectomy.

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

Alan Dershowitz on Trump Investigation and Civil Liberties

Famed liberal lawyer Alan Dershowitz appears on Fox News to argue against the criminalization of political differences in the investigation of Donald Trump. Dershowitz asserts that Trump had the constitutional authority to fire James Comey and that expanding obstruction of justice statutes poses a threat to all citizens' civil liberties. He compares the current legal climate to the tactics of Lavrentiy Beria and warns against resurrecting the Logan Act.

alan dershowitz· donald trump· james comey· obstruction of justice· logan act· civil liberties

22:04 Yeah, I'm gonna count for that look on his face. Yeah, but he was only gone for two days. It was pretty It's an it's a you know in and out thing. Yeah, my daughter had an appendectomy she was out. She was done. She was they you know, it's just a little bitty hole It's very small. They do it the way they do it now. You're in and out what she said outpatients called You don't, there's no anything. You just walk in and boom you're done and you're out of there and you're back to work. So did you see Dershowitz? I've seen, Dershowitz has been doing the rounds. I'm not sure why but I've seen him a couple times. He's very concerned. He's very very concerned in particular about the witch hunt.

22:46 No, he is very concerned. He thinks it's an abomination of the legal system. Yes. Now this guy is a Hillary supporter lifelong Democrat and I love lifelong Radical Democrat radical liberal. Oh, he's not Democrats a liberal but there's a difference I guess I would say in his case definitely well his message is this is going too far Then he's a he's a law professor. So he would know something about special prosecutors, etc, etc. And it's a little long, but I really like, and I cut Tucker out. It's just one long Dershowitz rant. It was pretty amazing. And I just sat there almost dumbfounded, like, wow, a left-wing guy said that on Fox. I don't agree with President Trump on a great many of his agenda issues. I know you don't. And, you know, I'm a liberal Democrat who voted enthusiastically for Hillary. He said liberal Democrat, John.

23:40 Yeah, well that's what he calls himself. Hillary Clinton. But I think I'm a person of principle and I realize that what the Democrats are trying to do to President Trump is exactly what some Republican extremists tried to do to Hillary Clinton. Lock her up, throw away the key. And the very people today who are pushing for Donald Trump to be investigated, indicted, impeached would be on the other side of the issue if the shoe were on the other foot. And if they were trying to expand the obstruction of justice statute or espionage statutes and apply it to a Democrat rather than a Republican. And I think we need a single standard of justice in this country. And I think both sides are trying to criminalize too much. If you disagree with people, throw them out of office. Don't elect them. But the idea of charging your enemies with political crimes is too prevalent on both sides of the political aisle.

24:26 But can you be more specific? What are the charges that his opponents accuse him of that a president should not be prosecuted for in your legal field? Well, they're saying that he committed obstruction of justice by simply acting on his constitutional authority. He had the right to fire Comey. Comey acknowledged that. He had the right to tell Comey to stop investigating Flynn. Comey acknowledged that. What is the obstruction of justice? If he had the constitutional power to do that, people compare it to Richard Nixon. But Richard Nixon told his staff to lie, probably destroyed tapes, and paid hush money or tried to pay hush money to witnesses. There's no allegations of any independent criminal conduct.

25:12 against President Trump. It's much more like what President Bush did when he pardoned Caspar Weinberger at a time when Weinberger was about to go on trial and might have pointed the finger of accusation at him. And nobody at that time really suggested that President Bush should be indicted for obstruction of justice or impeached. So this is selective injustice against a particular president who was unpopular with Democrats. And it's just not right. So what do you think of that? I mean, given your position and given the fact that you are a law professor, presumably know the subject pretty well. How do you respond when you see the endless hours of

25:50 poorly informed legal analysis on this is the stuff that we're always bitching about television suggesting sort of the opposite of what you just said well i'd comfort myself by knowing that almost all of these people if not all of them would be on exactly the opposite side of the facts were exactly the same but the shoe or on the other foot so it's partisan politics. Look, every liberal and civil libertarian ought to be against expanding obstruction of justice. It's such a vague statute. And the people who want to go after Trump say, oh, if he had a corrupt motive, what does that mean? Do you really want the presidency to turn on a subjective definition of a corrupt motive rather than on obvious

26:27 objective evidence of bribery, lying, destroying evidence. So I think it's a protection because my argument is yesterday it was Hillary Clinton, today it's Donald Trump, tomorrow it could be you. When Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the KGB met with Stalin, he said to Stalin, show me the man and I'll find you the crime. And that's what my friends, my liberal Democrat friends are doing. They're falling all over themselves trying to find a statute that they can expand. You should send this to your buddies, your journalist buddies. Let them listen to this for a second. Oh, they'd listen and they'd poo-poo it. I know exactly how they'd react. Oh, he's a Jew. Never mind. He's a Donald Trump. They're Jews. That's what I mean. They're going to bury the statute and try to put it back in its crypt. For example, there was a period of time when they wanted to get him under the Logan Act. The Logan Act hasn't been enforced since 1803.

27:19 And there's a concept in law called destitute. They wanted to resurrect it, apply it to Donald Trump, and then give it an honorable burial. But that's not the way the law works. The law works based on precedent. And what you do to Donald Trump today becomes a precedent and can be used against Democrats, independents, or anybody in the future. That's why all Americans who care about civil liberties, who care about constitutional rights, ought to be very concerned about the investigation that's being conducted in targeting Donald Trump. And not that his words will make any difference, but I did appreciate him saying them. Well, that, yes, it will make a difference. And he's been saying this on a number of shows, pretty much the same thing. And which says it's time to think, the Democrats, because of what happened in Georgia, which we're going to get to, I think

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Georgia Special Election and Nancy Pelosi Leadership

The Republican victory in the Georgia 6th district special election is analyzed as a failure for the Democratic strategy of using Donald Trump as a "whipping boy." Despite record spending of over $30 million on candidate Jon Ossoff, the seat remained Republican under Karen Handel. NBC News reports on internal Democratic friction, with some members calling for Nancy Pelosi to step down as House Minority Leader.

georgia 6th district· jon ossoff· nancy pelosi· karen handel· special election· nbc news

28:13 I think the theory that we had developed on the show, which is that the Democrats just want to cause a stir. They don't really want to get rid of Trump because they want to use him as a punching bag. Whipping boy. A whipping boy until 2018. But it's not looking good so far because they've had four special elections. The Democrats have lost all four of them, even though they have people coming on PBS apologizing. Well, you know, it was always red and it was always going to be tough and we didn't really expect to win. No, no, wait, wait. So what I heard was this is going to be a referendum against Donald Trump.

28:53 And they all lost, they lost all four of these, and they lost this one in Georgia. And the Georgia one is really the bad one because this cost them $32 million, which is an outrageous amount of money to spend on a congressional district. Although it didn't really hurt the locals that much because most of the $32 million came from Silicon Valley. Oh, really? Yes. I'm assuming John Doar and all the rest of these guys, all these Democrats that run the big Texas board. What's the Democrats name again? Which? Who lost? Ossify. Something like that. Ossor. It's O-S-something. I can't remember his last name. So Ossify it will do. And he was a carpetbagger, which is a term you don't want to use down there if you're our one. He's not from the area.

29:45 So they figure, so the Democrats, this is what they're thinking is, the Democrats think, well, we'll bring some guy in who's kind of good looking, at least to us, and we're gonna put him and run him against this woman who's just a dutch, she's a frump. And we'll throw millions in, whatever they throw out, we'll add to it. So they got up to 32 million out of the 50 that was spent on this campaign. and maybe more, they may have spent more than that. And we'll just ram, you know, the more you, and of course in the newsletter I pointed this out, this is violating the network, can't be happy about this, because the theory is, is that if you're going to spend money on a campaign which goes to the media, the media gets all the money. And we did get a letter from one of our producers and George says it was, you couldn't even watch television. He said it was unwatchable, because all it was was political ads all the time. Every advertiser was a political ad.

30:38 And the networks want you to believe that if you spend, the more you spend on a political campaign, the more likely you are to win. So you spend a lot, you'll win. And now it's not working anymore because of Trump. Trump has screwed it up. So the networks are freaked out and they don't know what to do. So I'm getting the sense that the networks are pulling back on this idea of just Pounding Trump all the time to try to get everybody all you know, keep keep this going to 2018 and then we'll win everything back I Think they're pulling back on this and in fact if you listen to the reports coming out of the Georgia Events except for CBS, which I think slants their news pathetically, but let's play

31:17 Play a clip here. This is the Georgia election. This is NBC News With a take that was aimed at Pelosi. Let's talk now about the blame game underway among Democrats tonight left soul-searching after a disappointing defeat in Georgia a house special election They had high hopes of winning only to see their hopes dashed again the latest in a string of defeats Some pointing the finger now at House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi we get more from NBC's Kristen Welker Republicans breathing a collective sigh of relief after GOP candidate Karen Handel beat Democrat Jon Ossoff winning a reliably red district in Georgia, fending off a challenge to President Trump. And a special thanks to the President of the United States of America.

32:02 Mr. Trump wasted no time taking a victory lap, tweeting, Democrats would do much better as a party if they got together with Republicans on health care, tax cuts, security. The question now is Georgia a sign Democrats are in disarray after spending a record amount on that race and losing four out of four recent special elections to Republicans. Today, some Democrats acknowledging their anti-Trump resistance has fallen flat. I think candidates matter and we need to do better in recruitment. Some Democrats also taking aim at leadership after the GOP consistently linked the Democratic challenger in Georgia to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi in ads, undercutting Ossoff's message of change. As long as Nancy Pelosi

32:48 is the leader of the Democratic Party, it's going to be very difficult to win Pelosi's spokesperson not responding to those calls for her to go and instead said Republican voters don't get to select the leaders of the Democratic Party. Still, Republicans may have their own reasons to worry. The races they've won so far are GOP strongholds and Democrats are outperforming their 2016 numbers. They have to have a message that contrasts with what Republicans want to do, not just say we're anti-Trump. All underscoring Democrats still haven't found their Trump card. Kristen Welker, NBC News.

33:24 Now, that was a Democrat bitching about Pelosi in that clip. And Pelosi, who didn't respond to any of this, her spokesperson says, Republicans aren't going to tell the Democrats who's going to be their leader. The Republicans want Pelosi. So that's like a dumb thing to say, because the Republicans want Pelosi and everybody's, they want her in there because they're using her as a punching bag on the other side. And it's working very well. Because of all the crazy stuff she says. I mean Pelosi's almost as bad as Maxine Waters. Well anyway, you go to CBS. I have this with the other clip is Georgia 6 CBS.

34:03 CBS, which still is controlled, we believe, or at least my thesis, and I think you agree, it's the real government spokes...you know, this is the CIA, the shadow government really talks to CBS, even though they got rid of Pelly. Well, no, they don't talk to CBS, they are CBS. The reporters are the agents. Yes. So, in fact, Morrell was one of the reporters, Mike Morrell, ex-CIA deputy. So this is the way they handle it. They refused to mention the name, I believe, unless I forgot what this clip says. I believe they don't even, they kind of mentioned Democrat leadership, but I don't even think they used the name Pelosi. So that's, and I wonder now why Pelosi is the speaker in the first place. She must be well connected with these intelligence. Her husband's very wealthy.

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

CBS News Coverage Bias and Democratic Strategy

The hosts critique CBS News for its perceived bias in covering the Georgia election results, noting the network's omission of Nancy Pelosi's name and its focus on "snarky" tweets from Kellyanne Conway. Democratic Representatives Tim Ryan and Seth Moulton are quoted calling for a new party message focused on jobs rather than just anti-Trump resistance. Discrepancies in reported campaign spending between official filings and PAC contributions are also noted.

cbs news· kellyanne conway· tim ryan· seth moulton· media bias· campaign finance

33:24 Now, that was a Democrat bitching about Pelosi in that clip. And Pelosi, who didn't respond to any of this, her spokesperson says, Republicans aren't going to tell the Democrats who's going to be their leader. The Republicans want Pelosi. So that's like a dumb thing to say, because the Republicans want Pelosi and everybody's, they want her in there because they're using her as a punching bag on the other side. And it's working very well. Because of all the crazy stuff she says. I mean Pelosi's almost as bad as Maxine Waters. Well anyway, you go to CBS. I have this with the other clip is Georgia 6 CBS.

34:03 CBS, which still is controlled, we believe, or at least my thesis, and I think you agree, it's the real government spokes...you know, this is the CIA, the shadow government really talks to CBS, even though they got rid of Pelly. Well, no, they don't talk to CBS, they are CBS. The reporters are the agents. Yes. So, in fact, Morrell was one of the reporters, Mike Morrell, ex-CIA deputy. So this is the way they handle it. They refused to mention the name, I believe, unless I forgot what this clip says. I believe they don't even, they kind of mentioned Democrat leadership, but I don't even think they used the name Pelosi. So that's, and I wonder now why Pelosi is the speaker in the first place. She must be well connected with these intelligence. Her husband's very wealthy.

34:56 They have all kinds of connections, well documented. Yeah, she's supposed to be the richest person in Congress. Just before we play the clip, I'm looking at the opensecrets.org and Ossoff raised $23 million, spent $21.9 million. The Handel, it says here, only raised $4.5 million. Yeah, I don't know where these exaggerated numbers come from, but that, but that, those two comparisons, four to one, five to one. That's pretty, yeah, that's insane. That's ridiculous and that can't be useful. That can't be right. I think the reason that the numbers got higher is because of the PACs. Because open source is not in the PACs. Yeah, they don't have the PACs. You got it. Yep, you're right. You're right. Well, all I know is, instead of saying, when they, I heard just listening in the car to CNN and MSNBC, you know, do my rounds.

35:50 was, whoa, unbelievable how much money the Republicans spent to get this. Instead of saying we spent... What? Yeah, instead of saying... Where did you get that? I didn't clip it because it was, I was in the car. I mean, where, what'd you hear it on? CNN. Someone came on and seriously said... Kidding me? And seriously said it's unbelievable how much money they spent for this win. CNN has just turned into the worst. Yes, yes. It's pretty much unwatchable, Jean. Alright, let's play the CBS version. The special election in Georgia to fill the House seat vacated by Tom Price when he joined the Trump cabinet. The seat will stay Republican and in the end it wasn't all that close. Here's Chief Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes. This is not the outcome any of us were hoping for.

36:41 For Democrats, it was $32 million down the drain. Newcomer John Ossoff lost to Republican Karen Handel by four points. A special thanks to the President of the United States of America. The President's special advisor, Kellyanne Conway, issued her thanks to everyone who breathlessly and snarkily proclaimed the race as a referendum on POTUS. That, she's reading from the Kellyanne Conway snark tweet. Yeah, I understand. Now, she, that's what they use as their tweet example, as opposed to if you listen to the, we're not going to do it, but if you re-listen to the NBC version, they actually had a very nice tweet from, a relatively nice tweet

37:26 from Trump, which said, as you recall, it would be better if the Democrats would do a lot better if they would work with us on tax cuts and this and that. So it was a very mild thing. But they didn't use that tweet on CBS. No, they got to use the crappy one. They used the crappy one. From their competitor, no less. Kellyanne Conway? Oh, I'm sorry. Keep going. Yeah. OK. Well, anyway, the point is, is that CBS and there's a real good example of this at the end of this clip. But let's continue. who breathlessly and snarkily proclaimed the race as a referendum on POTUS. You were right. Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan says it shows his party's brand is toxic.

38:11 strong look in the mirror and realize that the problem is us. It's the party. We need a genuinely new message, wrote Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, a serious jobs plan that reaches all Americans. The party had hoped to capitalize on President Trump's historically low approval ratings, but Democrats have now lost all four special elections to fill seats vacated by Trump appointees. The House Democratic campaign operation tried to console the troops in a memo, insisting the party has enough momentum to flip control of the House in 2018. And party leaders warned against reading too much into last night's results, since Georgia's 6th district hasn't gone blue in 39 years. We actually came closer than ever. You're still lost, though. Of course, but you know, in a normal year, we wouldn't even have any shots.

39:08 Some Democrats noted today that the party only sank big cash into this risky race because the party's base was so fired up about it. But other Democrats argued that that just shows that the party needs to embrace a more progressive agenda, Anthony, because that's where all the energy is right now. Nancy Cordes of the Capitol. Thanks, Nancy. Thanks, Nancy. Thanks, Nancy. Thanks, Nancy. Yeah, never mentioned Pelosi. Took a different tact completely through the snarky tweet in there just to make sure that everyone knows that the Republicans only tweet snark. Snark. And so that was slanted. It wasn't over the top slanted, but it was definitely not as objective as he gets. It's very hard for these people to admit that their party, I'm just going to say it,

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Trump Rally in Iowa and CBS "Dogged Devotion" Report

CBS reporter Dean Reynolds visits a Trump rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, to interview "Front Row Joes" and other steadfast supporters. The hosts deconstruct the televised report, criticizing the use of editing techniques—such as showing a young girl shouting "build a wall"—to frame supporters as irrational. One interviewee directly confronts the reporter on camera, accusing CBS of producing slanted stories.

cedar rapids· iowa· trump rally· cbs news· dean reynolds· media slanting

39:58 Their party is missing the mark. After all, they are news people, but they are also people with amygdalas. Yeah, well, they're having issues. Now, here's an example. This is from one of the two. I think this is from CBS, but this was one of the reporters was sent to Iowa to Just ask around gauge the temperature gauge the temperature gauge the temperature so they sent this guy out there is a report you've seen a million times on one of the older guys and he's just asking people that are you know the guy standing in line people waiting for the trump thing. And to me i can't imagine what this guy because a new yorker.

40:36 obviously, and he goes out to Iowa and he talks to people and they're like, you know, they don't even, half of them, I'm sure they never listen to PBS, but play this clip, this is Georgia aftermath. The president jumped on Twitter to celebrate the Republican victory, then jumped on Air Force One to take what turned into a victory lap in Iowa. Dean Reynolds is in Cedar Rapids. They call themselves Front Row Joes. Trump supporters so steadfast they camp out for hours, even days, ahead of a presidential appearance. Cindy Hoffman lives about an hour from Cedar Rapids. And you've been here for how long? I got here yesterday about 4 o'clock in the afternoon. Will this be the first Trump rally you've been to? This is going to be my 12th. Twelve? Democrats may shake their heads.

41:31 But the views we heard today help to explain a kind of jog at devotion. That's a great edit, by the way. I know, they just dropped it in. That's fabulous. It was very funny. It was a cut. There's a little girl in a little pink dress and she throws her arm straight into the air and says, build a wall. Nice. Democrats may wait I want to hear that little girl again that was a little girl yay right there. Financial appearance Cindy Hoffman lives about an hour from Cedar Rapids and you've been here for how long? Will this be the first Trump rally you've been to? This is gonna be my 12th. Democrats may shake their heads

42:17 But the views we heard today helped to explain a kind of dogged devotion, but Listen to what he says before they put that build the wall in there. This is very interesting to well Democrats may shake their heads So, I guess they're shaking their heads because the children are so ill. They're wearing their pink dresses yelling, build the wall, something like that. You know, we could take this apart, I'm sure, but it's like, yes, CBS does this. This is what I've talked about for, I don't know, the last six months about CBS's twisted way of reporting things.

42:56 And it's like, they make that comment, he makes that comment about they're baffled and they're shaking their heads. Then they throw this little girl throwing her arms up in the air. And it's like, I'm not absolutely sure what they're trying to accomplish with that juxtaposition. But it was very noticeable to me too. Well, it's like they took one of the guys from America's Got Talent or The Voice and had them edit the piece. Because that's what you do. You go boom, boom, boom, boom. All they missed was a couple of cool effects. You know, some transition effects. 12. Democrats may shake their heads. But the views we heard today helped to explain a kind of dogged devotion Including what Austin Bayless thinks of all the investigations targeting the Trump administration We have no smoking gun. We have no evidence Does he act like a man or sound like a man who has nothing to hide? He sounds like a man that can't get his his thoughts through the media a view shared by Randall Tom Listen, do you think I'm making it up?

43:59 Well, it depends on which side. CBS. Oh, CBS. But you know what? You have a lot of slanted stories on this. What did he say? He says, you know what? You have a lot of slanted stories. Oh? Well, it depends on which side. CBS. Oh, CBS. But you know what? You have a lot of slanted stories on this. They applaud Mr. Trump's fight against his perceived adversaries. Mmm, yes. It goes on and on. I mean, it's pretty much the same report, but the guy says, do you think I'm just making it up? And it's never an issue of making it up, especially the big networks. It's the way they slant things. CNN, I think, does make stuff up. And I think there's been... Well, this actually, if we could just take a slight detour for a moment.

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

White House Off-Camera Briefings and Media Frustration

The White House's decision to hold press briefings without audio or video recording sparks a confrontation with the press corps, particularly CNN. Reporters argue that off-camera "gaggles" are a disservice to the American people, while the hosts suggest the administration is trying to prevent the media from misusing video clips. The term "gaggle" is explored through its dictionary definition as a "disorderly group of people" or a flock of geese.

sean spicer· cnn· white house press corps· gaggles· air force one· jim acosta

44:49 What is happening, the way I see it, is the White House administration has decided that, you know what, we're getting slaughtered with video. Because, you know, for exactly this, you take it out of context, you just put in a random quote, build a wall from a kid in a tutu. So they decided, you know what? We're just not going to do press conferences with audio and video recording for a little bit. You can all come in and it's like all of us... Take notes, do what happens behind the... Oh no, oh no, oh no, no, no. This is not... The American people are now so stupid, they cannot read the news anymore. It has to be television. Otherwise you're obstructing the news, you see.

45:35 Witness CNN. Does the president have recordings of his conversations here at the White House? The White House is refusing to answer those questions on camera. They're answering the questions. This is the thing that's interesting about this. They're answering the questions, but they're not doing it on camera.

46:12 which for some reason has become now suspicious. In any kind of fashion where we can record the audio. My guess is because they want their evasive answers not saved for posterity. That is the only conclusion one could draw. That when they give us answers that it somehow reads better in print Maybe because it's what the answer is you don't like the answers and you want to skew them with video. That's what I think this is about. I think your analysis is correct and you think that he would present that if this guy's doing an honest report.

46:51 If he's doing an honest report, he would have used, at least considered the possibility of what you just said. Which is that they're, White House has determined that people are misusing, they're misusing the videos. And so they don't want that to continue. So they've gone to this, you want an answer? We'll give you an answer. You can write it down and report it that way. But if you listen to this report, it is being completely... And both of these journalists, quote unquote journalists, are in agreement that this is an outrage. They don't want to appear on camera. They don't want to tell the American people. Why don't they say there's an outrage you can't have a camera in the Supreme Court?

47:33 Or many court cases where you can't have it. Most courts. That's my outrage. I always want cameras everywhere. I'm not saying that I'm happy with this, but I do understand why they're doing it. That when they give us answers, that it somehow reads better in print. then print reads pretty good. And I guess people can say, well, there goes the media again. They're acting like crybabies because they can't cover things the way that they want. But, you know, maybe I'm old fashioned, Brooke, but I know if you're old fashioned, you'd stand there with your little notebook and you'd read what was said, what the questions were and what the answers were. That would be old fashioned. Before 1945, there were no cameras at these press conferences because they didn't have TV. But how long are these press conferences actually been televised? I don't even know.

48:31 Something we'd have to look into the way that they want, but you know, maybe I'm old-fashioned Brooke But I think that the White House for the United States of America should have these questions answered on camera I'm right there with you saying and of course it is their job to provide television news So I understand they're great. But when they don't do this, they're they're just doing a disservice to the people of this country and I He's gonna say it differently. He's so self-aware. He's very aware of, oh, we're sounding like crybabies. I don't want people to think we sound like a crybaby.

49:18 where I'm on my soapbox whining. I don't want people to think I'm on my soapbox whining. This is classic. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, who's pretty high- highly paid for a government official. And you're not, douchebag? This country comes in and- and just says you can't record the video or audio from these briefings. That wouldn't be tolerated at city council meetings. This is very interesting. He... I guess... But he because you're pretty well paid you have to be a prostitute because that's what they are He's come this guy is really doing a number on himself So so far we've heard I don't want to sound like a crybaby most by the way most City Council meetings are not taped They're not no

50:01 I don't want to sound like a boy soapbox and then by the way because you know Spicer is one of them though He's pretty highly paid as a prostitute So we should be able to see him and poke him and spit on him and do things to him like a cheap whore I think that's what he's saying. or at a governor's press conference. And here we have the representative of the President of the United States saying, no, you can't cover it that way. I just don't know what we're doing. Now he's going to double down. It's not even like we're covering a White House anymore with Kellyanne Conway and Omarosa in the briefing room off to the side of Sean refusing to be on camera. It's like we're just covering bad reality television is what it feels like now. So the White House press secretary is getting to a point, Brooke, where he's just

50:59 Kind of useless. You know, if he can't come out... He's really mad at him now. He's useless, I tell you, because he's not on television. He can talk, but that's no good. We need footage! ...and answer the questions and they're just not going to do this on camera or audio. Why are we even having these briefings or these gaggles in the first place? So you can write it down and ask questions and get answers. That's the White House behind me. The White House. And it's just, it's bizarre. I don't know what world we're living in right now, Brooke. We're standing at the White House and they bring us into the briefing room here at the White House and they won't answer these questions on camera or let us record the audio. I don't know why everybody is going along with this. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the newspaper guys are having a time of it, aren't they? They like it, yeah. Everybody is going along. Washington Post can still slam Trump left and right without having a video of it. New York Times seems to be doing just fine.

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

Rachel Maddow on Georgia Election Weather Effects

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow questions whether bad weather in Georgia's 6th district contributed to Jon Ossoff's loss by depressing Democratic turnout. The hosts mock this analysis, suggesting it implies Democratic voters are less resilient than Republicans. The discussion touches on the importance of early voting to the Democratic base and the concept of "carpetbagging" in the context of Ossoff's candidacy.

rachel maddow· georgia· voter turnout· early voting· msnbc

54:23 A disorder, listen to this, here's the definition, one flock of geese, two a disorderly or noisy group of people. Yeah, the press, it's always a gaggle. And they accept this word, it's an insult! I want to gaggle! Yeah, someone's laughing about that. Yeah, and they took the word and they took it to heart? Are you kidding me? How dumb are they? I refuse to be part of a so-called gaggle. Gaggle. I don't want to be part of a gaggle. Back to that election for a moment. Yeah. Rachel Maddow had a different take on why this happened. I'll bet she did. Steve, let me ask you one last question on this. If there was a turnout effect from the bad weather today in the district, does that have any part of it?

55:20 It was bad weather. Yeah, and in bad weather everyone knows that the gloomy Republicans will show up and the Democrats who demand sunshine and joyful glee, they can't get out of the house. Well if they get wet they melt you see, this is the problem. Steve, let me ask you one last question on this. If there was a turnout effect from the bad weather today in the district, does that have any partisan implications that you could foresee in terms of what was expected for same day election day voting here rather than the early vote? This is important that she's saying here. The Democrats know that they can motivate their Democratic base as long as there's early voting where they can kind of go in between, you know, yoga and other things.

56:07 But if they actually have to go somewhere to the polls, they don't seem to show up. Certainly if it's not- if it's raining. I think it's interesting. I wonder if they tried that trick again with the, uh...

56:51 You know, with special polling places only for Democrats and then dropping ballots for Republicans and walking the... No, I think people are onto this. That's not going to fly. Well, because it was a low turnout, that's one of the signs of that particular scam is low turnout on the Democratic side. So maybe they just didn't have enough? I don't know. I'm thinking they tried to pull it again. That dirty trick is something that's beyond my comprehension. I think they tried to pull that trick again. Sounds like it to me. Well, maybe. But I'm not sure how it works, but whatever happened, it happened. The guy lost, Ossoff. Yeah. Carpetbagger. Carpetbagger? Yeah, carpetbagger. Carpetbagger is a very negative term from the Civil War. Tell me, that is a true phrase from the Shays, and now we need to know what it means. Yeah, we gotta get back on that little bit about the phrase from the Shays. Well, let's try it again then.

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Etymology of Carpetbagger and Civil War History

The term "carpetbagger" is defined in its historical context as Northerners who moved to the South during the Reconstruction era following the Civil War. The hosts discuss the physical carpet bags used by these individuals, potentially linked to the tradition of transporting Oriental rugs from Turkey. The term is applied to modern politicians who run for office in districts where they do not reside.

carpetbagger· reconstruction· civil war· turkey· oriental rugs

57:51 There you go, a phrase from the chaise. Carpetbagger. You can look it up, but carpetbagger is they were people that came down from the north after the Civil War to run things in the south, various reform, reformist Republicans and Reconstructionists and all these guys would come down and they were always notorious for coming down with a bag, one of those carpet bags that if you ever went to Turkey or you've been to the Middle East or you've been someplace where they sell bag, they sell rugs and you can't really go to Turkey without buying a rug because you, I think they shoot you.

58:28 So they put it in, somehow, I don't even know how they do it, but they wrap this thing, they put the rug in some sort of a, they fold and fold and fold, and it goes in a bag perfectly. And you carry the bag on the airplane. And I guess this is a tradition that goes way back because I guess these guys would come down with these bags with carpets, they called them carpet baggers, as a slur. Ah, okay, so you're a bad Arab. Well, you know it wasn't meaning you're a bad Arab. It means you were just a Yankee Coming down to snow the original the original concept of the phrase no the original concept came from the Civil War I'm just saying that the origin of the why you'd have a bag for the carpet. I think stems from the history of selling Oriental rugs in in a bag they put it in a bag yeah, but well, that's an unsatisfying

59:24 No, I'm just saying the rugs are in the bag and these guys were coming down with these bags. I don't understand why it's a slur. It was just a slur. It's not a slur because of the bag or because of the Arabs or because of the Turks. It's a slur because you're a northerner coming down and you had to be called something besides that. Well, hold on a second. A Yankee usurper, they could have called him that. Okay. So maybe this is the genesis, the carpet bag is the genesis of the douche bag. Come on, think about it. Well, a carpetbagger is always a guy who's out of his area coming down to move in and take over, which is why this guy was called a carpetbagger because he didn't live in the district. I don't even know why they'd run a guy like that, to be honest about it. Why would you take some character that's not even from the area and as a Democrat drop $32 million on this guy? He's not even from the district and think you're going to win.

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Jon Ossoff's Background and Intelligence Ties

An investigation into Jon Ossoff's biography reveals his education at Georgetown's School of Foreign Service and the London School of Economics. The hosts highlight his five-year tenure as a national security staffer for Representative Hank Johnson and his possession of a top-secret clearance. They characterize Ossoff as an intelligence community "plant" or "spook" sent to contest the Georgia special election.

jon ossoff· georgetown university· madeleine albright· london school of economics· top secret clearance· hank johnson

1:00:24 Hey, does he have a spook background? Oh, that's a good question. What's his name again? The OSF? OSF. O-S-S-O-F. O-S-S-O-F-F. Something like that. That's a possibility. Let's take a look and see if he even has a wiki page. That's a very interesting thought I didn't have. What's his first name? Not John. John J-O-N. No, that's not him. His real name is... That's all no that's the fuck. That's the filmmaker. That's Thomas Jonathan's different guy John awesome who is John Ossoff? And here we go His name is not John. It's like Doug or something. No, it's John J. O n ow Yes, that's his name. Well. He has a twin John. I know the other guys get but his other names Thomas He did fight expectations when he cat it was just he never went for office before okay, and

1:01:24 Oh, hold on. Georgetown University, the School of Foreign Service. Oh, geez. And he attended classes taught by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren. Okay, spook. Spook! And it's a degree from the London School of Economics. Spook! Oh, he had top secret clearance for five months. Oh, there you go. For what? He worked as national security staffer and aide to Representative Hank Johnson for five years where he drafted and managed legislative initiatives that passed the House and Senate. He had top secret clearance for five months. Oh, he was Hank Johnson's handler. Yeah. He's a spook. Or the guy, he's just a spy. Yeah.

1:02:09 So they run this spy, are you kidding me? It's like the guy from Utah that they tried to run, the spooks tried to run. Oh, they run for president, that guy. Yeah. Do they, you know... We're gonna derail Trump's campaign with this guy. Yeah, this is how the meeting goes. Oh man, we didn't get one of our guys in as president. What are we gonna do? Well, we got some other guys. We'll run them. They can do it. We know how to do this. So, well, we did it in Thailand. They're thinking to themselves, let's put this guy who's not even from the area, who has a sketchy background, has never run for office before, we're going to send him down to the 6th District of Georgia and rouse this woman who actually is from the area. She's a local. And then we'll get another one of our guys into Congress.

1:02:58 You could probably identify the ones that are, you know, work there. You'll get a separate paycheck. This is ridiculous. I didn't even catch that. I feel bad. I only thought about it just now. And when you were saying where'd the guy come from? Like, well, usually that's a plant and he had top secret clearance. So this guy was totally, totally in the intelligence. He was the national security staffer. Okay, so they run this guy. That's an insult. When is the American public gonna wise up when they see something like this? That guy shouldn't have got 48% of the vote. He should have had no votes. But the Democrats, they're all in. Talk about a bunch of suckers. Unbelievable. It's not unbelievable, but yeah. It's unbelievable. I just let me say unbelievable. Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. DuBois, with a C stands for Culling!

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Joe Bissetti Donation

The hosts thank the show's artists and executive producers, specifically Joe Bissetti of Copley, Ohio. Bissetti's donation includes requests for "de-douching," baby karma for his expecting wife, and specific audio clips. The segment reinforces the show's "value-for-value" model and the role of the "No Agenda" community in supporting the production.

nick the rat· no agenda art· joe bissetti· de-douching· karma

1:03:57 In the morning to Mr. Adam Curry, you! In the morning all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, in the morning to our artists. I think it was Nick the Rat who brought us the artwork. Yes, it was. Yeah, it was for Niner 3 Niner. And let's see, what did Nick do again? Oh yes, he brought us the Lady Gaga with her brain. With her her brain on top of her head in a box. It was a high concept high concept Nick high concept We like it a lot very nice Thank you very much, and thanks to all of the artists who submit their work at no agenda art generator comm We highly appreciate that and that's why we give you credit right up front at the beginning of the show And you can get t-shirts and stuff with all these great artists depictions on them at no agenda shop comm and

1:04:50 Which is great because a third of the money goes to the show, a third goes to the artist, and a third goes to those guys. I have no idea how they're actually eating. T-shirt business is hard, but it's really appreciated. Never makes money, but somehow these guys crank out different designs constantly. I think they must have their own gear at apprentice shops. That's possible. Maybe they're doing it off hours. Well, we do have a few people to thank, three executive producers as a matter of fact, plus some others. Joe Bissell, B-I-S-I, what is it? What do you think that is? B-I-S-I something. How would you pronounce that? Bissesse? Bissesse, that's it. It's an I, not an L. Joe Bissesse in Copley, Ohio, 33434.

1:05:35 I've recently been hitting the mouth around about a show 888 and I've been wallowing in my own douchebaggery. It's a little sticky and a de-douching would help clean me up a bit. Okay, let's do that right. You've been de-douched. Took me a while to start listening consistently, but now I get through each episode within a day or two and find myself looking forward to Thursdays and Sundays for the next one. I really enjoy how you two and the producers call out the real fake news, point out the inconsistencies, the inconsistencies littering the M5M in our government. I love the deconstruction and how you guys explain exactly how these people are lying to their constituents and viewers. It's really quite amazing and how sad some people just believe whatever they hear. Also, I love it when you explain older show references. This is something we have to discuss.

1:06:31 This is a good point he makes. He says, I love it when you explain, because we do have a lot of people that maybe started listening to show 888. He says, as a new listener, sometimes there's quite a few references that go over my head, though with the show seemingly never ending content. It writes itself. I quickly forget about it. I would like to thank my, that's one of the things, there's a lot of it will be awesome, but most of this you're gonna pick up on it. I'd like to thank my buddy Chris who administered my hit in the mouse, mouse, please know that I am out there propagating the formula. I'm trying to hit my wife in the mouth as you read this letter. I would appreciate my clip starting with a live clip of John saying,

1:07:14 It's a scam! Followed by the longer of the two butt-slam clips, the Rosie O'Niette-Inglorious Bastards 9 mashup, following with two to the head. My wife and I are also expecting our first child. Do some new baby karma would be much appreciated. Last day I'm not sure whether you got the clip of Yoko Ono laugh butchering the great gig in the sky and I don't want to hear it. But I've never heard something that makes me laugh while at the same time makes me die a little inside. That is all. All the best and keep up the good work. Joe B, the future surreal Ohio grown.

1:07:52 when he's gonna be knighted eventually, he says. Yes, and he also has a birthday coming up July 8th, so. Yes. All right, well, do your thing, man. It's a scam! Whoa, you got butt slam! You've got karma. All right. Okay, onward to Chris. Hey, that was a great live read. Good one.

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

Listener Donations, Karma Requests, and Father's Day

A series of listener donations are read, featuring requests for health karma, job karma, and "de-douching." The hosts note a trend of donors being affected by political turmoil and personal hardships, such as heart attacks and cancer diagnoses. A Canadian donor, Noriko Aoyama, contributes to reach a specific "333" numerology, and the hosts attempt to find a specific "Boom Shakalaka" audio clip for the read.

chris eisbach· tony santos· noriko aoyama· cancer karma· job karma

1:08:33 I can do it. I can do it, man. I don't understand why I can't get a gig. Good read, man. Good read. Chris Eisbach in Cheshire, Connecticut, 333.33. Show after Father's Day, I do not hate my father, but he seeks to hate me. Oh, wow. What? Oh, well, anyway, sending this donation to keep things going during the summer doldrums. Also to get karma for my wife, who is not political, but has been poisoned by the mainstream. Oh man, you need to have her amygdala checked, my friend. It's not gonna get any better. You've got karma. Tony Santos in Sicklerville, New Jersey. Is there a Sicklerville? I guess. Thanks for the bi-weekly dose of sanity. Long time boner. First time donor. Please de-douche me. Okay. You've been de-douched.

1:09:28 I'd like some F-cancer karma for my mother who was just diagnosed with breast cancer. Thanks for all you do. Alright, man. Thank you, Tony. You've got karma. Somewhere in the USA, $250. Hey, I just saw you send me an email about how some people didn't get a Sharpton picture which we should discuss. Okay. So I decided to donate. Hmm, good. Can I get a de-douching and a heart disease karma for my dad who has a major heart attack on Saturday? On my birthday, a day before Father's Day.

1:10:07 Wow. You know, I gotta tell you, we have had so many of these donations of late, it's starting to become a little concerning. Yes, I agree 100%. And it's never the people who are clearly saved by the show. No, it's people who are clearly being affected by the political turmoil. Maybe. I think so. It's being done to just keep everybody on edge so they think that we have a president that's run by the Russians and he needs to be voted out and all these things. It's nerve-wracking I think to a lot of people who don't understand what the hell is going on.

1:10:51 So he had a heart attack on his birthday, a day before Father's Day. His heart stopped for a full 90 minutes. Chest compressions broke most of his ribs and collarbone. Holy crap. He says, I don't know if you have a heart disease, Karma, but you should. Keep it up and love the show. Here it is, man. All right, Daddy-O, for you. You've got karma. Noriko Aoyama. Edmonton, Alberta, 24444. Another one of these. This is interesting. I think this was, we concluded something's up with Father. It starts off, screw Father's Day.

1:11:41 For Thursday the 22nd, I'm adding $22.22 to the original 22222 US donation for a total of 333 Canadian. Nice! Equals 333 USD value. Can I please get an original Boom Shaka Laka kid for Kono? Chinese in the morning for dad? Oh, you do? Okay. Alright. I'm understanding it. Tomowoo.com. T-O-M-I-O-W-O-O-U-S. IWU.com. Our little family is working on its way to join you all at the round table. Can I get a de-douching and job karma for zanitation.com? Wait a minute, there was a lot of other stuff there. So what did he want? Boom shakalaka kid. I don't know if I have the kid. Chinese in the morning, and then de-douching and job karma. Yeah. Boom shakalaka. No, that's not the one. I don't remember what the kid is. Boom shakalaka. Boom shakalaka. Hey, thanks.

1:12:39 But what did I title it? Very handy, John. That's uh, that really helps. You're welcome. Well, just look it up. Yeah, just look it up. Yeah, okay. Well, I don't know. We'll just have to do something. This may not be the right one, so I apologize in advance. Here we go. Boom shakalaka. No, it's not the right one! John, you- That's the kid. That's the kid. Why don't you do the kid for a second? Do the kid for me. Boom shakalaka! D-douching. You've been D-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. I think I found it. It's Nick's kid. That's what it is. Nick's kid. Boo, shakalaka. Boo, shakalaka. That's what it is. You were close. I get there. I'm working on some of these things. Chris Engler, $204.60.

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Sir Chris Engler Birthday and Father's Day Anecdote

Sir Chris Engler celebrates his 44th birthday with a donation based on specific numerology. Following the donation read, a host shares a personal anecdote about not hearing from his daughter on Father's Day while she was working in Italy, leading to a "microaggression" follow-up and eventual reconciliation.

chris engler· reverend manning· mac and cheese· father's day· italy

1:13:37 And he sent an email in which I have by clicking this button. Oh, this she she sent an email in she I just sent you a donation of $204 and 60 cents Canadian dollar ets Where you take advantage of your offer to accept them at par with us search result what? Decisions said this part with us then says search results here. Oh Simoleons for production credits. I would appreciate a Reverend Manning. Okay, so she, what she, okay, I get it. I know what she's done. She likes a Reverend Manning long legged mac daddy good luck finding that one. Yeah, I got that one. Or a suitable Manning substitute if that's not available. Follow whether you slaves can get used to mac and cheese. My 44, oh, okay, get your pencil out. Sorry about this. Oh, hold on. I'm still on the mac and cheese, man. Yeah, well.

1:14:34 Time hurry Okay, I'm ready she's 44th birthday on June 22nd So she wants to be in the call-outs as she's sending this is a birthday present to herself The numerology behind this donation is 44 dot 44 for my age plus a pair of boobs 8008 times 2 please don't let the vocal minority of detractors both online and offline discourage you I need this show to keep sane. All caps. And meanwhile, Chris Angler, aka Sir Chris, wipe the caplets of the rolling bones. So all the she's in here, I rebuke. That's my mistake. I thought it was connected to the next cell. I'm sorry. Okay. So, Chris, I always knew it was a guy, but I thought maybe I could have been wrong.

1:15:30 So he whatever he got him. I got him. I got okay. We're covered yep, and then we need those mac and cheese and was there was there another thing besides the mac and cheese You've got karma You know, I didn't get any call or anything on social media from my kid for Father's Day. Nothing.

1:16:09 Well, I think she's right in there with the category all the dad haters. Well and But I you know, she wasn't she didn't posted anything I knew she was in Italy doing some some TV work and I'm gonna we'll see I wasn't too upset There she went so she came back and went to a festival probably like went on a whole weekend bender And so I say hey, you okay. I didn't hear from you Sunday Little microaggression didn't hear from you Sunday and it was like, oh daddy. I can't believe it. I can't believe I'm so sorry You're the only human I love. What inhuman does she love? So, my daughter...

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Amy Burlingame on Identity Politics and University Influence

A letter from Amy Burlingame describes the strain identity politics has placed on her family, specifically her relationship with her biracial niece attending the University of Rochester. The niece reportedly labeled her aunt and uncle as "racist" and members of the "default race" due to their political views. The hosts discuss the "Dimension B" mindset and the trauma experienced by supporters of Hillary Clinton after the 2016 election.

amy burlingame· university of rochester· identity politics· default race· hillary clinton· biracial

1:16:49 cleaned the kitchen, the dining room, and sorted out the pile of coins that I had collected. Throughout the decades? Taking out the wheat pennies and the real pennies and separating them from the phony pennies that we now manufacture today and taking the old coins and keeping them separate and giving me a big pile of coins to take to the bank because they have a machine that sorts them. Yeah. I got 200 bucks. Wow! Well, that's cool. What a nice gift. Yeah, yeah. Well, now, Christine, I could learn something. Well, it's probably too late. She hates me. Amy Burlingame meanwhile, $200 comes in with this donate. This is actually an interesting letter. Very interesting note. It's a long note, but I'm going to read it because it's I find it to be fascinating. This donation is for my husband, Jim Burlingame, $100 for his birthday, which was June 6th. $50 for our wedding anniversary on June 13th and $50 for Father's Day. Happy wedding anniversary. I don't think we have a list for that.

1:17:49 He has faithfully listened to your show for years and after several attempts successfully hit me in the mouth a year ago. I can't believe how beneficial your show has been to me. My mother and my niece are firmly planted in dimension B, and your show seriously helps me deal with them. My mother, who is a hardcore Hillary bot, I'll never understand this because even if she doesn't believe the truth about Hillary, she actually told me to my face recently that I listen to alternative facts about Hillary. When Hillary was our senator, she did absolutely nothing for New York. So why would I want her in charge of our country? The most trying has been my relationship with my niece. A very brief background. She's biracial.

1:18:43 Her mother was my sister, I'm white and her father is Nigerian. Race was never an issue between us until she started attending the University of Rochester. The next thing I know everything is about race. She has chosen to identify herself as a black woman, which is fine because I really don't care. I see her as my niece, plain and simple. However, this is very upsetting to her, claiming I would not understand because I belong to the default race. Oh my God! Default race? I've never heard this expression. That's obviously taught at the University of Rochester. Geez Louise, people. Default race. Oh. Soon to be invalid.

1:19:27 I agree that I do not understand what it's like to be in her shoes and never will. What's upsetting to me is that she actually feels that my husband and I are racist because we don't currently support the ideas about identity politics and globalism. Check her amygdala. That's probably huge. After the election, she went full-blown social justice warrior and why I would love nothing more than to hit her in the mouth. I'll continue to support and love her through the craziness because in the end, I firmly believe family trumps all. And she says I couldn't resist. Please play Maxine Stay Woke followed by Two to the Head and Carl's Blah Blah Blah. Thank you and keep up the great Carl. It's not Carl, it's uh, that's uh, Tucker. Tucker. Tucker Carlson. I'm gonna attack on a karma for her because she's, that's a very tough situation. Yes. It's a very tough situation and but I'm sorry, this is, this is,

1:20:24 And here it is, we have the ground zero, the point, you know, is when the glass ceiling didn't shatter, the balloons didn't fall. That was traumatic. And up goes the amygdala count. My millennials, stay woke! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You've got karma. Okay, onward. We have Michael Hager in St. Louis, 200 bucks, and all he says is B-P-I-T-U. There you go. Yeah, short and sweet, love it. Nelson Salehand is our last associate executive producer, also $200, and I have to, I will do a quick search on whether or not he sent a note in. S-E-I-L-H-A-N, this must be it, yeah.

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Nelson Badger and Value-for-Value Model Discussion

Nelson Badger requests housing karma for the difficult California rental market and suggests the term "Amigdelight" for those with enlarged amygdalas. The hosts transition into a discussion about the show's funding, urging listeners who find value in the program to contribute even small amounts, comparing the cost of a donation to a Starbucks latte.

nelson badger· california rental market· alex jones· value for value· starbucks

1:21:17 It comes from n badger I Just looked at the title and it realized I missed you decide on the big dolla You can just strike that part of my email below over here if you like I want to humbly suggest a mig delight plural and mig delight so refer to these folks folks expressing symptoms of a mig Dulles swelling No, no, no, it's got to be hashtag big mig. Ooh, I like that. Mm-hmm But in this case mig is with a Y Okay, anyway, kind of fitting if you ask me. Anyway, I would like to request some housing, Karma. The rental market is insane in the People's Republic of California, indeed.

1:22:00 Yes, and a dealer's choice Alex Jones soundbite. Thank you both for your continued work on no agenda I've been listening maybe five months now and it's been a welcome outlet that's helped me It helped reassure me that I'm firmly grounded in universe a best Nelson Badger Okay, it was a J. Was the other one he wanted he wants a I can't find it It was because he wants to some housing karma any Alex Jones. Okay. There's a wrong order. I get it. We came we saw he died Karma a never-ending resource that man is and never ending he's great. Yeah, never-ending resource love it Yeah, that kid's a group of the well wishers the executive producers executive which was shown 930 and it's really at 940

1:22:52 940. You've been very confused with the show numbers of late. Just noticing it, just noticing it. But I'm a little concerned about this because for the past, what, two months we've had, you know, very nice to see execs and associate executive producers come in, but the rest of the list is so thin. Yeah. This is supposed to be our base, but you know. And really, if you're enjoying the show and you send an email saying, you know, I can't donate anything, I just don't believe you can't send a dollar, five dollars, You're making a choice somewhere and your choice is not for the show, which is okay. But then just, you know what I mean, John? Yeah, we do get it. We're getting excessive number of notes, long notes that say I can't afford anything. And I'm sure people can't afford to donate, but you know, you're making choices somewhere and it's okay. But you can, you just make a different choice. That's okay. Everyone has five bucks.

1:23:46 Everybody has five or something. Yeah, a latte. A lot of there's five bucks there. Candy bar. Well, latte. Yeah. You're having a latte from Starbucks. Anyone spending money at Starbucks can afford to donate. Yeah. Well, I want to profusely thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for supporting the work on episode 9 or 4-0. We will be thanking everybody else who came in at $50 or above. You'll see it's a short list along with our birthdays and no nights and no title changes. The summer is here, everybody. That's usually signified by this.

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

16 Personalities Test and The Campaigner Profile

The "16 Personalities" test is discussed, with one host identifying as an ENFP, also known as "The Campaigner." The profile describes a free spirit who sees life as a complex puzzle of emotion and mysticism. The other host dismisses the test as "horoscope" level nonsense and mocks the career suggestions, which include being an oceanographer who flies helicopters.

16 personalities· enfp· timothy leary· personality test· oceanographer

1:24:22 And remember we do have a show coming up on Sunday. We need as much support as we can get obviously. So you got a couple days to talk to your colleagues, talk to your crazy friends, propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Have you heard of the 16 personalities test? Where you wind up with an identifier for your personality?

1:25:05 No, I have not. Is this another one of those things from Self Magazine or something like that? No, it's been a... I think this has been around for a while. But let me see, what is it called? One of Tina's daughters came up with this. Let's see what the millennials are doing. There's more than 16 personalities, that's for sure. In fact, anyone who's interested in personality analysis, they should really look into and check out the wheel and some of the other things that were developed by Timothy Leary before he became strung out on LSD. He was considered one of the great geniuses of personality deconstruction. What's interesting about this, and I haven't quite figured out if it's a trick or not or how it works, but they come up with 16 personality types.

1:25:52 And when you read the personality type, it is really, really, really spot on. That's why I was wondering if, so I am, I would be. I'll tell you this. I know that sales training, a lot of, if you go hang out with sales guys and go do today, they deal in this a lot. They like to, one of the concepts is if you have to understand what your personality is and then you have to see what your target clients personalities are and you have to, Some people you can't sell to, you never sell to because it's a mismatch. And there's a lot of that kind of analysis done in high-end sales. Well, can I just read a few things from this? Just tell me if you think it's correct or not. Sure. So my personality type is ENFP, which stands for something. But the personality type is also known as the campaigner.

1:26:47 And the ENFP personality is a true free spirit. They are often the life of the party, but unlike explorers, they are less interested in the sheer excitement and pleasure of the moment than they are in enjoying social and emotional connections they make with others. Charming, independent, energetic, compassionate, the 7% of the population that they comprise can certainly be felt in any crowd. And More than just sociable people pleasers, ENFPs, like all their diplomat cousins, are shaped by their intuitive quality, allowing them to read between the lines with curiosity and energy. They tend to see life as a big, complex puzzle where everything is connected. But unlike analysts, who tend to see that puzzle as a series of systemic machinations, machinations, machinations, ENFPs see it through a prism of emotion, compassion, and mysticism, and are always looking for a deeper meaning. I think that's right!

1:27:37 Oh brother, if that doesn't sound like a horoscope to me, I don't know what does. So, but listen to careers. It's a bunch of generalities. Yeah, listen. This is right, by the way, as you continue already everything I'm hearing, I'm believing is complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. I wanted to ask. Well, listen to careers, right? It says here, right under careers, first line, can't I fly helicopters and be an oceanographer who writes songs and cooks? That's totally me. Really? I didn't know you wanted to be an oceanographer. I fly helicopters. Oh, okay. I guess that counts. Alright, never mind. I'm sorry I even brought it up. You're going to be a dick about it. I'm a total dick about this sort of thing. It's bullshit. Well, is there a personality test that is not bullshit?

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

MMPI Test and Workplace Personality Screening

The Minnesota Multipersonality Inventory (MMPI) is presented as a more rigorous, albeit "nasty," alternative to popular personality quizzes. The hosts discuss the legality of using such tests for employment screening, noting that it can identify "psychos" and individuals with "bizarre mentation." An anecdote about Ziff Davis using the test on employees is shared, highlighting its focus on clinical indicators like anxiety and cynicism.

mmpi· minnesota multipersonality inventory· ziff davis· personality testing· employment law

1:28:27 I took one, yeah, I'll give you one to take. The MMPI, the Minnesota Multipersonality Inventory. Take that, that's a real personality test, it takes hours. Oh shit, well Dave, who wants to do that? I'm not that interested. It's illegal in most states. What? Wait, I know that Ziff Davis used to give it to them. Whoa, whoa, whoa, back that up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the MMPI test is illegal? If you're an employer in most states, you cannot give a person that you're gonna hire or somebody you're thinking of hiring the MMPI. Why not? I think it's because you can sort out the psychos in a minute. And so that's illegal. Hmm, interesting.

1:29:17 I know in New York it is because Ziff Davis used to give it to all the employees and the only one guy who never passed it was one of their best editors. Is a pass fail too? No, it's not a pass fail. You get these different scores and if you have you set your standards for what you want. I never took it because I was a contractor, but I used to give the test. I used to be a test administrator at the University of California and I used to give all these different tests and I often give the MMPI for some reason or other. People would hire us to administer that test and a bunch of people would come in and take it. And it took, I think it was a two, it may have been up to, I don't know how long it took to take, but it was a long test.

1:29:58 And it wasn't something little thing in a magazine where you come up with a bunch of bull crap that sounds like a horoscope. All right. All right. Already. I was just bringing it up to ask you like, you know, for asking for a friend, not for me. Friend wants to know, but the, anyway, the MMPI is extremely good and it does all the checks. And there's a bunch of things that you have to do when you're, when you're testing people's personalities. And a lot of them is like reasking the same question in different formats over and over again to maybe up to five times to get people to

1:30:34 Because, you know, they lie when they take the test. They're always trying to make themselves look good and this test takes that into account. And they'll tell if somebody's nuts, I guess. Now I can see it. What is measured? Anxiety, obsessiveness, depression, health concerns, alienation, bizarre mental... Tation, anger, cynicism, conduct problems, low self-esteem, low aspirations, social discomfort, family problems, school problems, and negative treatment indicators. Wow! That's not a happy thing on the list. It's a nasty test. It's only to see if you suck. Yes. Well, that's not a good test. It does a pretty good job, apparently. Yeah.

1:31:15 As if you say illegally give it to this it's a prospective employees, and then they pull these losers out now You know we just we didn't have a space for you. Sorry and never of course I don't know what no let me see you would pass anxiety obsessiveness fail Depression not sure health concerns now. You're okay alienation. Yes, bizarre. What is Oh bizarre mentation? Yeah, I Bad weird thoughts. I guess or and or hallucinations anger You don't have considerable anger problems cynicism. Yes conduct problems. They have delinquent peers now That would be me low self-esteem. No low aspirations now social discomfort. Yes. I don't have low aspirations. I'm a podcaster What were you watching Oh veep

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

CNN Watergate Special and Robert Redford

CNN is criticized for airing a four-hour special on Watergate featuring Robert Redford, which the hosts view as an attempt to draw parallels to the current Trump administration. Redford's appearance and narration are mocked, with the hosts focusing on his physical appearance and the "prophetic" framing of the documentary.

cnn· watergate· robert redford· all the president's men· media propaganda

1:32:05 Veep which is a damn good show and you know one of the guys he's on the CBS morning show and he gets fired and then as a slam They the co-host woman says oh well great. You're gonna be doing a digital channels and a podcast Like everyone in the room heads whip around looking at me like I'm now I'm now a joke Punchline you know punchline a punchline exactly Alrighty. Well, there are many other things to discuss today. Let's just talk about the... since I have a couple of clips for it. What Trump is calling the witch hunt! The witch hunt. And so we had Dershowitz, then we... oh, CNN, unrelenting in their trying to compare everything to Watergate. Unrelenting.

1:33:05 So they did a four-hour special about Watergate. Oh, that must have packed him in. Oh yeah, I haven't checked the ratings. Does CNN have a clue? No, but they have Robert Redford. Leaks, secret tapes, special prosecutors and presidential paranoia. He's in the movie after all, so he's an expert. That's exactly what he's gonna say. Leaks, secret tapes, special prosecutors and presidential paranoia. When I hear those words today, they have a familiar echo to me. 40 years ago, I made the movie All the President's Men about how Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein chased the Watergate story from break-in to cover-up to the first president to resign his office. The story of the scandal stayed with me. And a few years ago, I produced a documentary about Woodward and Bernstein's detective story to uncover the truth. And it struck me as prophetic and worth repeating today. We thought Watergate changed America and our political process.

1:34:05 But did it? So dramatic, Rob Bob. And they do and again, I don't know if he if he produces this himself, but they do the slow zoom from about medium zooming in on his face. And again, Mr. Redford, my mom loved you. She would be appalled. Lip balm, my friend. Again, like he just ate a crusty-ass sugary donut, man, but just crusty bits hanging off of his lips and all cracked and... I think, I swear I saw one of those scales on his lip move when he was talking. It was so disgusting! Pushing me out. Yeah, but why does he do it? Does he have no eyes? Is he lacking eyes? It's really, it's traumatizing to see that.

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Tom Brokaw on the "Web of Hate" and Resistance

Former NBC anchor Tom Brokaw delivers a commentary on the "deep dark hate" in America, specifically targeting Alex Jones and the "underside" of the internet. Brokaw calls for citizens to "step up" and resist these common threats. The hosts interpret this as a call for political resistance and mock Brokaw's delivery and perceived incompetence in slowing cultural trends.

tom brokaw· nbc news· alex jones· hate groups· resistance· internet propaganda

1:35:00 Bob. Um, let me see. Let's go to... Oh yes, they brought in all the big guns. Really, we gotta save this thing because we got Dershowitz out there on the Fox News talking crap. We got all kinds of people starting to question what we're doing. Hey! Bring in Brokaw. This is not an easy assignment for a journalist. A father, a grandfather, a citizen. to try to understand the deep dark hate that's coursing through our country. The deep dark hate that's coursing through our country. And the instruments that spread it with a keystroke. Oh, they spread with a keystroke. A keystroke. A. One keystroke.

1:35:45 But I was also quickly aware of the underside, the seizure of the net by hate groups of all kinds. Oh, hate groups. Hate groups. He only means racists and right-wing people, of course. Spreading their cancer of wholesale racism and violence. Spreading their cancer of wholesale racism. But I guess he means the alt-right, don't you think? I mean, he can't be... Well, I don't think he's going to Stormfront.com. I did two documentaries at the turn of the century called The Web of Hate, hoping to slow that trend. He was hoping to slow the trend back then but it didn't work so he's incompetent bonehead. Yeah, he should give the money back. Century called the web of hate hoping to slow that trend. Oh because he's such a world leader. But the reach and the poisonous claims of Alex Jones and others like him. That guy gets so much cool promotion! You know Alex Jones, now just to stop for a second. Alex Jones is getting too much publicity. It's outrageous.

1:36:52 Well, he's done a good job of keeping his profile so high and that crazy nutty stuff that we like to play that he says. And other people put it together too. I think it actually benefits him. Well, yeah, it benefits him. Because I mean, his whole goal is to sell all those products that he's got in the back warehouse. I think he's just doing a wonderful job, but he must be making millions. I heard about 60 a year. What? Yes. Yeah. Think about it. Boner pills, t-shirts. Crisis, seed gardens, iodine, DNA repair. Why do I know this? Women just encircled the Christians and went, Satan, Satan, Satan, all give us power! Satan! And back to Tom Brokaw. Called the web of hate, hoping to slow that trend. But the reach and the poisonous claims of Alex Jones and others like him, and even establishment public figures would not be slowed.

1:37:54 We cannot disrupt the irrational spread of hate and division by instantly, blindly blaming the other side or by looking away. We cannot allow the agents of hate to go on challenge and become the imprint of our time. We'll always have our differences of course, but in our finest moments were a republic that thrives What I recognize as common threats. You know what I just realized he has the poop guy sound But it's different. He's more like Come the imprint of our time

1:38:34 We'll always have our differences, of course, but in our finest moments, we're a republic that thrives when it recognizes common threats and takes them on. That time is now again. This is a time of common threats requiring uncommon courage. It is a time to step up. Step up! With Tom Crokeshaw. Step up! Just step up! Step up and do what? Resist! Poop? Resist! Well, this is not a good idea if you need to poop. No, no. Thank you for this biological info. So this is NBC, Tom Brokjaw, NBC, bringing out the big guns and let's just head over to the sister station, MSNBC. Joy Reid has listened very closely to Tom Brokjaw and said, you know, we really, you know, we got to step up.

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Joy Reid and Ted Nugent Controversy

MSNBC's Joy Reid questions why Republicans are portraying themselves as victims of hate while citing past inflammatory comments by Ted Nugent regarding Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The hosts debate the accuracy of Reid's quotes, specifically whether Nugent told Obama to "suck on his machine gun" during a concert, concluding the rhetoric is being exaggerated for political effect.

joy reid· msnbc· ted nugent· barack obama· hillary clinton· political rhetoric

1:39:29 We really need to stop the hate. This is not as easy as- Oops, I can't believe I played that again. Here we go. You know, it does feel like you're trying, you have people on the right, you have Republicans trying to sort of make themselves the victim. They seem to crave this idea of being the victims of hate. Why now are Republicans attempting to sort of make themselves the victims? When we saw death threats against members of Congress for passing universal health care in 2010, I mean, there is a record here, right? Yeah, it's interesting. I think death threats and someone shooting you is maybe there's a slight nuance in that. So the question, Joey, is why now are Republicans trying to be kind and sensitive? That's not going to last very long. Why is Ted Nugent, why is Ted Nugent, who said Obama should suck on his machine gun, who said Hillary Clinton... I don't think... Did he say suck on my machine gun? I think he could have. Where's the clip?

1:40:28 I don't know where the clip is, but if I heard the clip, I would not be stunned in the least if Ted Nugent actually said that. It's Ted Nugent who said Obama should suck on his machine gun, who said Hillary Clinton should be hanged, who said that if Barack Obama was reelected, he'd be dead or in jail. Suddenly he comes out and says, I want us to change the tone. Really? You know, I guess people can ask for forgiveness later. He didn't ask for forgiveness. He's asking the left to change their tone. He didn't ask for forgiveness. He said the left needs to change its tone. Hold on a second.

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Adam Schiff on Collusion and Obstruction Evidence

Representative Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, discusses the evidence for Russian collusion and obstruction of justice. Schiff uses an analogy comparing the firing of James Comey to an employer firing an employee for rejecting sexual advances to explain "malicious cause." The hosts mock Schiff's lack of concrete proof and his "constipated turtle" demeanor.

adam schiff· collusion· obstruction of justice· james comey· sexual advances analogy

1:41:05 What the hell's Ted Nugent got to do with the price of bread? Nothing. Who cares what he said? No, he's not a politician, but that's... He's not a politician, he's not a mover and shaker. It's spewing hatred for hatred's sake. And he, and you're right at this point, if she's going to start quoting a million things that he may or may not have said, let's hear it. Yeah. Finally, with the time to get down to brass tacks, let's get some evidence here. You know, the guy who's been leading the charge on this Russia investigation is, he's been somewhat cagey in the past. Adam Schiff, he is ready to... The constipated turtle. Yes, the constipated turtle. And let's hear about his evidence. You said recently you thought there was evidence of collusion. What kind of evidence have you seen? This is the guy, right? This is the guy who's leading the charge.

1:41:58 he is the guy he's the guy so you would have some but can you tell us well I think there is evidence I can't go into the particulars of our closed station oh why not you like the White House now you need one of those videotapes you saying things but I also think there's evidence of obstruction but in both cases I was well it gets better in both cases what but investigation, but I also think there's evidence of obstruction. But in both cases I would say whether there is some evidence doesn't mean that there's proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The same people that say that there's no evidence of collusion say there's no evidence of obstruction and the president indeed cannot commit obstruction. I don't buy that. If you look at James Comey's... Okay, this is interesting. You got to hear his analogy.

1:42:44 So he's saying the president cannot actually obstruct justice by firing someone because he's allowed to fire someone. That's that's the dealio That's how it works. So he's going to make a comparison dealio. Yeah, cool. That's a phrase for the shade. That's it. Well, he'll eat a dealio D-e-a-l-e-o I believe was I oh I got a direction I don't buy that if you look at James Comey's testimony and we were trying this in the court of law No judge would exclude that. That would all be relevant evidence as to potential obstruction. And the fact that the president can fire someone for good cause or can fire someone with no cause doesn't mean that he can fire someone for malicious cause. The fact that an employer can terminate an employee at will doesn't mean that he can fire an employee because the employee rejected their sexual advances.

1:43:38 Okay. Oh, that's what we're dealing with. Okay, now I understand. Makes nothing but sense, Schiff. You're lost, Broseph. Hey, I have a... I think I have the clip of Ted Nugent saying Obama can suck on his machine gun. Apparently during a concert. Let's see. Okay, so he's holding up an AR. Or, uh, yeah, similar assault rifle. And he says suck on this. That's not quite the same as suck on this. He says suck on this sometime you putz. Let's go do it again. I don't suck on this one time you putz! That's it? I was in Chicago last week. I was in Chicago. I said, hey Obama, you might want to suck on one of these you punk!

1:44:33 Then he said, the first one was somebody else. Yeah, Arnold. Arnold. Arnold, you can suck on this, you putz. And then he called Obama a punk. Yeah, but he didn't say suck on my machine gun. He held up... No, he did not say suck on my machine gun. Okay, I just wanted to clear that up. Because, you know, people in the chat room are already saying, yeah, he said that. No, he didn't. He implied it and it wasn't a machine gun. It doesn't matter. It does matter, actually. Screw it. It matters. So they had these hearings, they had a bunch of hearings all at the same time. Yeah, I saw a couple of them. And I want to contrast two or three of these. I got three clips.

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing on Russian Hacking

DHS and FBI officials testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee regarding Russian attempts to target election systems in 21 states. While officials confirm that no vote tallies were altered, the scope of the "probing" is described as staggering. The hosts criticize CBS News for framing the hearing as a "Trump hit piece" by linking it to the Access Hollywood tape.

russian hacking· 21 states· voter registration· dhs· senate intelligence committee· cbs news

1:45:15 And I want to start with this new hearing CBS. This CBS, here they are again kind of twisting a story to their benefit. And I could make a whole separate podcast of CBS twisting stories or leaving stuff out or not slanting it or slanting it a certain way. But here is the overview story about the hearings. These are security hearings that are going on about how they've discovered that the Russians really were tapped in. They were screwing with apparently 21 states. Yes. And I'm still confused about that because I remember reading the DHS memos, but people who were dudes named Ben who were manning things, they saw the log files. All the probing was from DC.

1:46:10 You recall? Yeah, I do remember that. So, yeah, this is Russia. By the way, everyone's probing those databases. They get hit all the time. Yeah, all the time. Right? Let's hear new here. This is the CBS angle. Let's listen to it. Russian hacking of the 2016 campaign went a lot deeper than previously known. That's what current and former counterintelligence officials told Congress today. Here's Jeff Pagase. As of right now, we have evidence of 21 states, election-related systems in 21 states that were targeted. Homeland Security officials said the Russians appeared to target voter registration data of the 21 states only.

1:46:52 Illinois and Arizona have said that they were attacked. DHS official Jeanette Monfro would not name the other 19 even when pressed by the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat Mark Warner. How many states did the Russians actually exfiltrate data such as voter registration lists? I prefer not to go into those details in this forum sir. The officials all said there was no evidence any votes were actually changed, but the scope of Russia's efforts was staggering. Assistant FBI Director Bill Priestap. The internet is just, it has allowed Russia to do so much more today than they've ever been able to do in the past. Before the House Intelligence Committee, former DHS Secretary Jay Johnson defended his agency's response. State election officials are

1:47:41 very sensitive about what they perceive to be federal intrusion into their process. I heard that first hand over and over. The Obama administration formally blamed Russia for the attacks on October 7th, but Johnson says that warning was drowned out. It did not get the public attention that it should have frankly because The same day the press was focused on the release of the Access Hollywood video. And that video of course showed then candidate Trump making disparaging remarks about women. Just yesterday White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer admitted that he and the president still had not discussed whether the Russians actually interfered in the election. Anthony. Thanks Jeff.

1:48:27 Number of things here. Yes, the Johnson thing is they did not play the good part of it, which I have I have to You probably have something else, but no I we have the check it out Mine is one minute and 15 seconds yours is one minute and 10 seconds. I'm sure it's exactly the same nice Where'd you get yours where'd it come from from the hearing which is from C. Span now, okay? Here's your let me play mine cuz yours is from C. Span. It's pure. I'm gonna buy as part of a report ah okay Now, a couple of things. One, they downplayed the Johnson testimony, which was a lot different than what they said. Yes, it was a condemnation of the media. It was a total condemnation, but the way I'll play the media version and you play the real version. Oh, this is beautiful how this works. Now, spike in the ball. Sorry.

1:49:18 Now, the thing to note here is that CBS, when they did their report, they had to get in the little thing at the end about the media, they were talking about the NBC tape, you know, with Billy Bud or whatever his name is. Access Hollywood. Access Hollywood. Billy Bub. Billy Bush. And then, well that's the guy's name, Billy Bush. And then the guy has to say at the very end, he says, and that was about Trump disparaging women. They had to put that in. So this was actually a Trump hit piece. Yeah. Which really was like, what? Are you guys kidding me? Can't you do something else? Even though his whole,

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Jay Johnson Testimony on DNC Hacking and Media Timing

Former DHS Secretary Jay Johnson expresses frustration that the FBI did not inform him of the DNC hacking for several months. Johnson also notes that the Obama administration's October 7th statement on Russian interference was "drowned out" by the release of the Access Hollywood video. The hosts argue that the media intentionally prioritized the Trump scandal over the national security warning.

jay johnson· dnc· fbi· access hollywood· barack obama· russian interference

1:49:59 The monologue was about the media messing it up. Exactly. Now, here's another report from a different network on the new hearings with J. Ed Johnson pissed off. A current FBI official told the Senate Intelligence Committee how the Russian government directed cyberattacks to wage an information campaign that favored then-candidate Trump. Homeland Security official Janet Manfro also offered new details on how Russians attempted to interfere with state election systems. As of right now, we have evidence of 21 states—or election-related systems in 21 states that were targeted.

1:50:39 But in no case were actual vote tallies altered in any way shape or form. That is correct. In a separate and almost simultaneous hearing before House Intelligence, former Secretary of Homeland Security Jay Johnson described learning about Russian hacking into Democratic National Committee systems months after the FBI became aware. It had been some months before I was learning of this, that the FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other about this. And I was not very happy to be learning about it several months later, very clearly. I was not pleased that we were not in there helping them patch this vulnerability.

1:51:23 Now where was that in the CBS report? And not there at all. At all? It's not there at all? Not only that but they made it sound like he was all part of the whole thing, he was really happy as a happy camper. No! He was irked. He was irked about a number of things. Yeah, you have the big irkship clip. Uh, Jim Clapper and I made the statement on October 7th. Now this is when they came out and said, you know, was it 17? Uh, whatever it was, whatever the statement was that Russians hacked Russians hack. He's very angry, but he's angry at the media who funny enough, didn't pick up on this. Uh, Jim Clapper and I made the statement on October 7th. Uh, and I'm glad we did, frankly.

1:52:03 I think the larger issue is it did not get the public attention that it should have, frankly, because the same day the press was focused on the release of the Access Hollywood video. Yeah, that's the piece that CBS put in. That's where they stopped it. But it continues. That's what made our news below the fold news that day. Mr. Secretary, you mentioned though that the statement you issued didn't get much attention because of the timing of Access Hollywood. When it didn't get that much attention, why didn't the administration go further? Why didn't the president, for example, speak about this? It was left to yourself and Director Clapper to issue a written statement. President meaning Obama. Without any further elaboration. There were no steps taken, for example, to impose sanctions on Russia. Why weren't those additional steps taken when

1:52:50 The first notice really was essentially overlooked by the public. Departments thought it was bullshit. Well and but more than that not only bullshit But it was also better to let the other Trump thing go because that took a week to get over over. That's right That was the one that slamming Trump. Yeah that and that was the one that was gonna bring him down It was perfectly timed they were ready to go was essentially overlooked by the public well I You shouldn't view the October 7th statement in isolation, sir. First, I've been engaging state election officials since August and I had issued a public statement on August 15th. I issued a public statement on September 16th. I issued another public statement on October 1st. There's the October 7th statement. Then I issued another statement on October 10th. Seems like a lot. Yeah. And he obviously

1:53:52 There's a little myth that the media was too wrapped up in the Access Hollywood tape to... And now we know that what's really important is the Russians! This is very poor. It's all falling apart. It's all falling apart. Well, what's falling apart is this scheme, which we talk about, and I promote more than anyone, which is they're trying to keep this pot boiling, this anti-Trump, hate Trump pot boiling until, I'm sorry, until 2018. And they can't even get it, keep it boiling until Christmas. I mean, they're already resorting to kids in pink tutus saying build the wall. I mean, come on.

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

USS Fitzgerald Collision and Navy Equipment Malfunction

The collision between the USS Fitzgerald and the container ship ACX Crystal off the coast of Japan resulted in the deaths of seven sailors. Vice Admiral Joseph O'Coin and the hosts discuss how a sophisticated warship could be "T-boned" by a slower vessel. While human error is the official focus, the hosts cite reports from former Navy personnel suggesting a widespread equipment or radar malfunction that the military may be covering up.

uss fitzgerald· acx crystal· navy· collision· joseph o'coin· bryce benson

1:54:31 This is very disturbing. I don't know what they're gonna do. This is really just a mess for them. And let's, since I got a lot of emails, let's talk about the crash, the ship crash. Yes, I do have a backgrounder. It actually is pretty good. CBS is good with this sort of thing. Well, because... It's the Pentagon and CIA hates the Pentagon, so they will slam the Pentagon. It's so easy once you understand how to look at things. Yes, how a top-of-the-line US Navy warship could be t-boned by a slower less maneuverable container I think you were the first person to use the t-bone phrase regarding glad somebody else is using it Nobody was talking about it at all at all at all until we start until you brought on the t-bone

1:55:20 How a top-of-the-line U.S. Navy warship could be T-boned by a slower, less maneuverable container ship remains inexplicable. But the result is indisputable. Seven American sailors dead and the USS Fitzgerald limping into port. Vice Admiral Joseph O'Coin, commander of the 7th Fleet, said the crew had to fight to keep the ship afloat. The damage is mostly underneath the waterline and it's a large gash near the keel of the ship. The Japanese Coast Guard said the ACX crystal plowed into the Fitzgerald at 1.30 in the morning local time. There's a lot of discrepancies about this. There's some say, well first it was

1:56:04 Because they have the maritime you have like the Transponder so they can track it just like you can't with airplanes. So no they they they swerved came around and then hammered him And you can look at that. He has an explanation for that? Okay. Yeah, I believe that CBS is getting the real story and they had some stuff I never heard before and I didn't know that the captain was nearly dead. And that the boat actually hit his cabin and wrecked the cabin and put him in the hospital. The Japanese Coast Guard said the ACX Crystal plowed into the Fitzgerald at 1.30 in the morning local time.

1:56:43 as the Philippine flag vessel was headed from Nagoya to offload cargo in Tokyo Bay. A website that tracks commercial vessels shows the Crystal making a sharp change of course at exactly that time, as if it had run into something and was coming about to see what it was. The container ship had a crew of only 20 and may well have been operating on autopilot. The Fitzgerald and its crew of 300 was outbound. Its bridge watch would have included an officer of the deck, radar operators and lookouts. They should have been able to see the crystal coming from at least 10 miles away. That would leave plenty of time to alter course and to alert the captain. But Commander Bryce Benson was still in his cabin when the crystal struck. His cabin was destroyed. He's lucky to be alive.

1:57:35 An investigation will determine who made what mistakes, but in the US Navy the captain is held responsible for everything that happens aboard his ship. Anthony? David Martin. Thanks, David. All right. So that's letting us know that the captain's toast. Yeah. Sorry, man. Sorry, not feeling too well after that, but yeah, you got to go. Anything else? No, that's all I got. I just thought the intro would be good because I figured you'd have something. Well, pretty much universally. Then we have a lot of producers who have been in the Navy. Yes, we do. A lot of notes, a lot of letters. Yeah, subs and etc. And I would say the overarching conclusion is that this is not new. It was an equipment malfunction as being blamed on the seamen.

1:58:31 And I find that to be a very logical explanation because you will never hear anyone admit to that because it's a billion-dollar boat. Yeah, but yeah, this is pretty much universally. Yeah, it must have been a malfunction. Stuff does malfunction. Well, so... I think it had to be they have so many redundant systems on these boats that have to have been a couple of things that malfunction or somebody just so unless they turn something off. I mean, a lot of people believe they turn off, which is not uncommon with the US Navy to turn off the auto signal or that lets people know that there's a boat there because they don't like to be tracked.

1:59:12 I've read the name of that system. But assuming that system, it was turned off for whatever reason, because they don't want to be tracked, the radar on the boat should have... No, no, no, it's the radar. That's what I'm hearing. No, there's a beacon. Yes, well, maybe the old I know like I understand like aircraft. I understand all ships have a beacon Yes, but the US Navy likes to turn the beacon off because they don't like to be tracked and turn it off But it would turn it off in that area. Yeah, but maybe the China the the what is it called the crystal frigate? Maybe that one had their transponder. No, it didn't because we were tracking it I don't know but all I know is the guys who have emailed pretty much say it sounds like an equipment malfunction And they're just gonna cover it up and just say was human error Goodbye covered up, but that's guys not gonna be a captain. You know on any ship again ever no

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

EU Regulation on Acrylamide and Belgian Fries

The European Commission is introducing regulations requiring potatoes to be blanched before frying to reduce levels of acrylamide, a potential carcinogen. Belgian "frite" shop owners are reportedly up in arms, as the process interferes with traditional double-frying techniques. The hosts criticize the EU for "overcaution" and interfering with long-standing culinary traditions, comparing it to previous regulations on the cheese industry.

european union· belgium· french fries· acrylamide· blanching· food safety

2:00:04 And I wish it was much cooler, conspiratorial. There's not much to it. I do know this, apparently they did a, the sailors that were left on board had to do a bucket brigade with I guess three or four hands of buckets. Because that thing was about to sink. It was sinking, yeah, it was sinking. The Europeans... They saved the boat, that's a big deal, to save the boat. A billion dollar boat, no kidding. If that thing sunk, boy. Now you know I lived in Belgium for a while. Yes, near Antwerp. He lived in Bruges. No, I live near Antwerp. Nowhere near Bruges. Ah, the diamond capital of the world. Yes, indeed. Well, the European Union, the Commission, has come up with a little issue with the Belgians. Now, you need to know that even though the Dutch

2:00:53 say that the Belgians are french fry eaters, it's really the Dutch who eat the most french fries, but arguably frites was invented as a standalone dish in Belgium, in the Flemish speaking part, the northern part of Belgium. Right. And they are up in arms, the Belgians. Over free? Over free, yes. Well, because... People out there who don't know, we're talking about French fries. Yes, okay, so the French fries are... it's like you go to the snack bars, which are called frittekort.

2:01:30 It's just a little shack and they have a deep fryer in there and they're just making french fries. And you get a little pointy bag and in the pointy bag you got the french fries and typically a big glob of mayonnaise. Mayo. Mayo. And I should mention I think there's a clone of that type of shop. It's either in Brooklyn or Manhattan. It's very popular. Oh really? That's a good idea. I mean you could do you could do frites anywhere. I think people would love it. Even the mayonnaise, man I remember when I was seven and I first landed in Holland I saw people eating french fries with mayonnaise. I'm like, I gotta get out of this country. This is bad. This is bad. It takes some getting used to but once you do you realize it's actually a delicious combination. And they have this kind of mayonnaise with a little relish type stuff through it which gives it a little tangy, almost like a tartar sauce kind of deal.

2:02:18 But anyway, the flavor is of course from the craftsmanship of how the Belgians make this by double frying. They double fry the french fries once for softness. Which is not a Unknown technique, Julia Childs and other people that did a lot of TV cooking promote the double frying mechanism. I've done it a few times. It doesn't really to me, I think if you do it right, you don't need to do that. But okay, fine. I, it's interesting, but that's where it comes from probably. Well, what the European commission is now saying is that potatoes need to be blanched first to prevent the formation of acrylamide.

2:03:04 an allegedly hazardous compound that can form in the frying process when certain foods are heated to a temperature above 120 degrees Celsius centigrade. What? Yes. Yes. So... Acrylamide? Acrylamide, yeah. Oh God. What is that? I don't know, we're gonna have to look at it. Here we go! Now, I've been eating Freed all my life. I've never become everybody listening to the show has yeah, thank you real low-mined And you know how the Gestapo are gonna do that in the EU they're gonna have people checking hey hey let me check your french fry

2:03:51 Why are you blanching them first? And of course it will ruin the whole process, which is, you know, you fry it once, you get the soft inside, then at a really high temperature, you get the crunchy outside. It's how it's done. It's been done this way for centuries. Acrylamide. That is what. I'm looking. Here it is. The discovery of acrylamide is further down in the document. This is a chemical used in industry. in some cooked starchy foods. In 2002 prompted concerns about the carcinogenicity of these foods. As of 2016, it's still not clear whether acrylamide consumption affects people's risk of developing cancer. Acrylamide is classified as an extremely hazardous substance in the United States as defined in section 302 blah blah blah of the U.S. emergency planning and subject to strict reporting requirements.

2:04:42 Okay, so they're freaked out about this stuff as a carcinogen. But it comes from industry? It's used in industry. It's used in the plastics business. So how does it get into the fryer? It's used to manufacture various polymers. It was in water treatment. It's used in binding, thickening, or flocculating agents in grout, cement, sewage, wastewater treatment, pesticide formulations, cosmetics, sugar manufacturing, and soil erosion prevention or process. It's useful. It's good stuff. Toxicity. It's highly toxic. Okay, so somewhere along the lines, apparently, here it is, as of 2014, it's still not clear whether dietary acrylamide consumption affects people's risk of developing cancer. Experimental results that are based on feeding acrylamide to animals might not be applicable to humans. Food industry workers exposed to twice the average level of acrylamide do not exhibit higher cancer rates.

2:05:41 Well, then why are they doing this? Skin irritant and may be a tumor initiator on the skin. Don't rub those French fries on your skin. It's fine. Some phytochemicals. It was potential. Okay. It sounds like bull crap. It sounds like overcaution. This is the, this to me is a classic EU situation. Yes, it is. Acrylamide has been found in black olives, prunes, dried pears, and coffee. Oh, coffee's next. So they're gonna ban those too? Well, they're not banning the free- the free- Acrylamide has been found in roasted barley tea. So do you have to blanch... ...brown prior to being steeped in hot water. The roasting process revealed two to six hundred micrograms of acrylamide. It's Potato Gate, Potato Gate, Potato Gate. Less than one thousand micrograms per kilogram found in potato crisps. Okay, you get potato crisps and other fries. In other words, potato chips are loaded with this stuff. So what is it? So they're all up in arms, they have to blanch... Okay, acrylamide levels appear to rise. I can't get it on edge right now.

2:06:45 Nobody knows the mechanism. Can you hear me at all? Many believe it's a my yard reaction in the fried or baked goods You've just lost the ability to hear me you there. Yeah, I'm here. Oh, did you hear me? Oh, I know what happened you hit the mute button for the past five minutes. I've been like hello. Hello. Hello There it is, okay, we're off at least I was providing good information Okay, hold on The Maillard reaction, the French pronunciation, is a chemical reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars that gives brown food its distinctive flavor. They can't, this is bull crap. I'm done. So what is blanching? How is that done? Blanching is you drop the french fries into boiling water for any amount of time you want. I would say if I was going to blanch potatoes, I'd probably boil some water and then drop the french fries in there for about 15 seconds, 30 seconds maybe.

2:07:48 I don't know what that would do negatively, it probably wouldn't hurt. But it adds to the process. It seems to me that if you're a french fry shop, you don't need this aggravation. Well, they're up in arms about it, they're mad. And I understand. What's next, they're going to attack the muscles industry? Yeah, it's coming probably well in Belgium. That'd be funny. Yeah, they should be up in arms This is the problem the joke is of course is that these rules come from Belgium It's kind of sad oh Man all right You know what here's the thing that bothers me about all this I've seen this with the cheese industry and all the rest and you in the EU They all you can't use wood. You can't put your pieces of goat cheese on wood. Do you have to use plastic?

2:08:38 to age or whatever, you know, whatever the process is. These are mechanisms and techniques that are tried and true. They're actually proven over time to be safe. You start fooling around, you're introducing variables that may not be as safe as the mechanism that has been proven over time to be safe. It's always bothersome to me when you who knows maybe the blanching of the potatoes before your French fry them does some that the other harmful meanwhile sous vide is okay, and that's just taking place everywhere. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of the the odd the odd way about it a a Yes, and you know me and sous vide. I'm not a big fan. No no everything I've ever had prepared with sous vide technique is delicious last

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Philadelphia Pride Flag and Racial Inclusivity

Philadelphia's Office of LGBT Affairs added black and brown stripes to the traditional rainbow pride flag to increase visibility for people of color. The move has sparked debate within the community, with some arguing the flag is not about race and others claiming it breaks tradition. The hosts discuss the history of the flag's design and the trend of adding more specific identifiers to universal symbols.

philadelphia· pride flag· lgbt· amber hikes· rainbow· identity politics

2:09:30 Let's see, are we still in gay pride? Pride, I'm sorry not gay. Are we still in pride month? I believe we are. This is all of June pride month. They're taking over the month. Yeah. They're gonna take over a quarter and then it's gonna be the whole year. Yeah, well there's an issue. There's an issue. The, in Philadelphia, which as you know is the pride capital of the United States of America, Uh, there was an issue as the pride flag, the rainbow flag, was hoisted on a pole outside City Hall. People clapped and cheered. And then it hit them. Wait a minute. What is this? They've added a black and a brown stripe to the rainbow flag! Yes!

2:10:09 Turns out Amber Hikes, head of Philadelphia's Office of LGBT Affairs, approved the committee's decision to add the stripes as a way to give more visibility to LGBT plus people of color. Well that's not what the flag is about. It's not a race flag. It is now. You know what's funny? I was watching the gay, uh, the show, it's gay, gay news or something. I used to, it just happened, just happened bumping into gay news. And so I used to try to get clips from this show. It's on the, yeah, the out people on that show and you can't get any clips. It's ridiculous. All I do is grouse.

2:10:51 But they one day, and I watched the whole thing, they had the guy who's dead now, the guy who invented the gay day, the gay flag, the guy who designed it. And he said a little known fact for anyone out there who's gay. There were two additional stripes on that flag originally. Oh, there was another version of pink and another version of purple. At the top and the bottom and they took those off because they say decided there's just too damn many Stripes it was ridiculous so he took the so he took two extra stripes off because there were too damn many stripes And these guys put two stripes that aren't even approved Not by the guy. He's dead. He's dead. That's dumb

2:11:38 Yeah, but a lot of people don't like it. They complain that it breaks with tradition. There's no brown in a rainbow. It singles out people of color for special treatment. There's no brown in a rainbow. I'm a little concerned when I read this kind of stuff. First of all, the fact that they did that at all. Yeah, but, you know, can you, why not add some white on there? I'm, I don't know, I'm just a white guy. But why not add a little bit of white, you know? There's white gay lesbian transgendered... What about Chinese? I mean they have the brown, they let... Yeah, they should have one really thin stripe. Yellow, really thin yellow stripe. Yeah, there you go.

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Supreme Court Ruling on Offensive Trademarks

The Supreme Court ruled that a ban on "offensive" trademarks is unconstitutional, a victory for the band The Slants and the Washington Redskins. The court also struck down a North Carolina law banning sex offenders from social media on free speech grounds. The hosts praise the court for upholding First Amendment principles regardless of the content's perceived offensiveness.

supreme court· the slants· washington redskins· free speech· trademarks· sex offenders

2:12:25 Yeah, that won't offend anybody. No, well, talking about not being offensive, I have a clip. Okay. Which I thought this was kind of offensive. Apparently the Supreme Court has struck down anything that says your trademark can't be offensive. Play the Supreme Court in free speech. The Supreme Court ruled today in two free speech cases. The justices said a ban on offensive trademarks is unconstitutional. That's a victory for the Asian-American rock band The Slants battling to trademark their name. It also gives a boost to the Washington Redskins in their fight to keep the trademark to their name. In the other case, the court struck down a North Carolina law that bans sex offenders from social media websites.

2:13:09 Coming up next on the CBS Evening News, the only thing rising in Phoenix is the temperature. Wait a minute. That was very odd. that they took to what? What was the whole different thing? The whole different. So they had, you know, offend redskins, the slants and then all of a sudden that was funny. In the other case, the court struck down on North Carolina law that bans sex offenders from social media websites. What does that have to do with the with the other with the rest of the story? I don't understand. Those were the major. It was a Supreme Court. Oh, OK, I see.

2:13:49 Yeah, people are surprised. And it all had to do with free speech. Yeah, well, so the Supreme Court did a good thing here. Well, they did. Yeah, they, they sent down a bunch of bull crap. I mean, if these guys want to call themselves the slants. Yeah, if they want to call themselves that, do whatever you want to do. Yeah, who cares? Oh man. Well, I'm glad we have a Supreme Court that has their head on straight. Was it a unanimous decision? I don't know. They didn't say. Well, that's rather interesting. We'd have to look it up. Yeah, well, we won't look it up right now, but gosh golly. Gosh golly and holy smokes. Indeedy, I say! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Oh, No Agenda!

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

Al Sharpton Photos and Value-for-Value Donations

John C. Dvorak discusses technical issues with his newsletter, specifically regarding "ludicrous" photos of a slimmed-down Al Sharpton that failed to load for some users. A series of donations are read, including a "Flat Earth" donation of $77.77. The hosts reiterate the show's reliance on producer support rather than traditional advertising.

al sharpton· newsletter· flat earth· value for value· donations

2:14:43 That's right, everybody. The crackers are here. The crackers are here. Kind of a short list of people who helped us out on show 940. I know what it is. So let's start with the top of the list, which is Sir Kevin Dills, the Baron of Mecklenburg, Charlotte, North Carolina, $128.64. I don't know what you do without the NOA Agenda Show, he says. Thank you for keeping me sane and being my guardians of reality. Thank you. Thank you for the compliment. David Villieu in Concord, California over here, 12345. This is to fund toward John's fund for broken newsletter links and photos. That's Sir Desert Dirtbag Dave, by the way. Adam Conklin in Springfield. I did have a problem. I mean, somebody sends me a newsletter back and they show that the first picture, it had these two ludicrous pictures of Al Sharpton.

2:15:41 And the top one where he's doing a selfie and he's got a picture of himself in the mirror, he looks like a 12 year old. It's a funny picture. But it didn't come through on a lot of people's news. What do you mean it didn't come through? It got an error message. The guy did a screenshot. This image isn't available or something like that. Oh, let me see if I got it with the image. I think I had it with the image. Let me see. Yes, unusual error message. Very good subject. No, that's not the one. That's the second one. Here we go. Ludicrous pick. Let me see. Do I have a Sharpton? Yeah, I got Sharpton. Both of them. You got both of them. That's odd. Yeah, that's what I thought. And so I got a bunch of, you know, I told people who didn't get the picture. I got about 10 people that said they didn't get the picture. And there's a number of other ones. I didn't even get their newsletter. The Al Sharpton that I know could eat this guy. Yeah. That's not that Al Sharpton doesn't exist anymore. Now this Al Sharpton doesn't look too healthy, man.

2:16:42 It looks it's just so weird. So having lived in New York when Sharpton was big man Sharpton is odd to see this Yeah, okay I'm sure it's more healthy than what he was probably but geez Adam Conklin in Springfield, Massachusetts, that's $120 He needs a de-douching muscle do that for him. He says the reason You've been de-douche It says, recent shows have been fantastic. You can take a look at which requests and maybe drop some in at the end. Ken Anderson, $117.88. Dame Karen of Cimarron Hills, $101.01. Happy longest day of the year. Thank you. Sir John, the Baron of Murfreesboro, 100. He's asking for house buying karma. He is a Baron, so we've got to do that.

2:17:39 Yes, of course. You've got karma. Uh, the floppy dorsal. Yeah. Please call out Patrick Polony as a douchebag. I just hit him in the mouth, but he's on notice. Okay. Can you put my friend and producer Mike Peterson on the birthday list? Matt Peterson? Okay. I got it. June 21st. Got it.

2:18:28 Jeffrey Steckroth, boob. Colton Comer in Johnstown, Colorado, boob. To the best podcast in the multiverse, I'd like to mention Earthships as possible remedy to the plywood box epidemic. I'm not sure what he's talking about. Earthships, plywood box epidemic. Hmm. Just vague, vague. Send an email. I'm interested, Colton. Aaron Durant, uh, boobs. Sir Ben of the Apex. Um, yes, Sir Ben of the Apex. Oh, no, hello from Sir Ben of the Apex's first successful mouth hit. There you go. After raking in the big bucks at my grad party and enjoying episode 939 and its discussion about slaves my age, I knew it was time to dedouche myself. Thanks to both of you for changing my worldview. Yes, another soul is saved! You've been dedouched. Or created.

2:19:24 Saved or created. Sir Steve Marchi, Black Knight, also 8008. He's got a note here. Is there anything I think? Okay. Michael Wagner, 7777. Chris Durkin, 7770. Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 6969. Bill Johnson, 63. Donald Napier, 5510, double nickels on the dime. Scott Waldherr in Middleton, Wisconsin, 5510. Sir Patrick Coble, Train Museum. Okay, Train Museum is coming up. Sir Luke the Baron of London, which is great. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the analysis of the Frisbury Park attack as I live across the street. He actually sent us an analysis. Yes, he sent the analysis. We didn't do.

2:20:23 Andrew Benz of St. Louis, Missouri came in as a check. Didn't get any checks today. And then the following people are $50 donors, name and location if we have them there. The list is short today, people. Brendan Menk in Tempe, Arizona. Kevin Porter in Beaver Creek, Ohio. Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina. Jason Clegg in San Diego, California. Crystal Carey in Orlando, Florida. Brian Matthews in Bellbrigan, Ireland. Ireland! Adrian Ramos in Pasadena, California. Daniel LaBoi in Bath, Michigan. And Patrick Maycomb, Sir Patrick, to you, in New York City. And last but not least, Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. Quick thank all these folks for helping us out. Quick call back to Michael Wagner's 7777 donation. He says, this is the flat earth donation. As the top of the sevens is flat like the earth, please tell the slaves. Thank you for your courage.

2:21:21 Hmm. I can see that. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's right under the boobs. And that's what it is from now on. From now on, it's the Flat Earth donation. Very good. So anyone who even wants to think flat earth, they can donate. This show runs on a pure value for value model. Means that we don't take advertising. We don't take any kind of money from anybody but the producers, the people who create and enjoy this program simultaneously. A lot of people do that with artwork, with other creative things, with clips, news, feedback, information. research and those who can support the program financially. But everybody can afford some money somewhere if you're really enjoying it. If you're getting value out of it, then we'd appreciate some value back. If not, okay then. Understood. Not a problem either. And another show for which you can donate coming up on Sunday. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K

2:22:13 I think we have some jobs donation requests. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And we start with the belated ones. Matt Peterson celebrated yesterday Amy Burlingame's happy birthday to her husband Jim, who was celebrated on June 6th. Sir Nick, king of the floppy dorsal, happy birthday to Matt Peterson, June 21st. We already thanked him. Bill Johnson, happy birthday to his daughter. Eric turned 13 on June 17th. Tim Campbell celebrated the 17th and we have Joe Bissetti, 34 on July 8th. Kent Anderson, happy birthday to Nick Johannes who'll be celebrating on June 22nd. And Matt Peterson again on June 21st. Crystal Carey, happy birthday to her husband John celebrating on the 24th. And Sir Chris Engler, 44 for today on June 22nd. Happy birthday from all you buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah.

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump's "Solar Wall" Proposal in Iowa

During a speech in Iowa, President Donald Trump proposed building the southern border wall as a "solar wall" to generate energy and pay for itself. Trump claimed the idea was his own and would benefit Mexico by reducing their required contribution. The hosts mock the proposal as one of the "stupidest things" they have heard, questioning the technical and political feasibility of the plan.

donald trump· solar wall· iowa· mexico· renewable energy· border wall

2:21:21 Hmm. I can see that. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's right under the boobs. And that's what it is from now on. From now on, it's the Flat Earth donation. Very good. So anyone who even wants to think flat earth, they can donate. This show runs on a pure value for value model. Means that we don't take advertising. We don't take any kind of money from anybody but the producers, the people who create and enjoy this program simultaneously. A lot of people do that with artwork, with other creative things, with clips, news, feedback, information. research and those who can support the program financially. But everybody can afford some money somewhere if you're really enjoying it. If you're getting value out of it, then we'd appreciate some value back. If not, okay then. Understood. Not a problem either. And another show for which you can donate coming up on Sunday. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K

2:22:13 I think we have some jobs donation requests. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And we start with the belated ones. Matt Peterson celebrated yesterday Amy Burlingame's happy birthday to her husband Jim, who was celebrated on June 6th. Sir Nick, king of the floppy dorsal, happy birthday to Matt Peterson, June 21st. We already thanked him. Bill Johnson, happy birthday to his daughter. Eric turned 13 on June 17th. Tim Campbell celebrated the 17th and we have Joe Bissetti, 34 on July 8th. Kent Anderson, happy birthday to Nick Johannes who'll be celebrating on June 22nd. And Matt Peterson again on June 21st. Crystal Carey, happy birthday to her husband John celebrating on the 24th. And Sir Chris Engler, 44 for today on June 22nd. Happy birthday from all you buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah.

2:23:15 And we have again, no nights, no title changes, nothing. We could use some instant nights. Yeah, we could. We could use anything. Yeah, instant nights. To keep the program going. Ah! The president made me laugh. Thanks Obama. Yeah, the president made me laugh. Made me laugh with probably the funniest environmental minute and a half that he's... Now, you thought that China created the global warming hoax was funny? No. No, no. Wait until you hear what the president has come up with now. We use electric, we use wind, we use solar, we use coal, we use natural gas, we will use... Natural gas, big favorite, a crowd pleaser. Yeah, they got a bunch of shills in the audience for natural gas. Woo! Whenever you hear natural gas, John, we just gotta go, woo! Yeah!

2:24:13 Blue Flame! presents itself. And I'm happy, but I'm still here. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, the right opportunity is certainly here, Prez, but yeah, okay. We're going to be strong for the future. Okay. We're going to be strong for the future. Yes. I don't want to just hope the wind blows to light up your homes and your factory. So, no, no, no, it's great. But this guy tops it. As the birds fall to the ground. The birds fall into the ground because of the windmills. But wait!

2:24:58 There's more. And we're thinking of something that's unique. We're talking about... Oh, oh, oh, oh, but he's thinking of something that's unique. What could you think of, John, if you wanted to help American energy and American energy policy and actually create a lot of energy with something that you're already doing? A combo, a two-for-deal. I mean, what... How about ocean power? No, no, no, no, no, no. How about... I got it. wiring up people's spin classes so they can power their lighting for the building. That would probably be better than the president's idea. And we're thinking of something that's unique. We're talking about the southern border. Lots of sun, lots of heat. We're thinking about building the wall as a solar wall so it creates energy. Listen to the slave idiots. Whoa, solar panels on the wall!

2:25:49 Now, this is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard him say. Lots of heat. We're thinking about building the wall as a solar wall so it creates energy. Energy. And pays for itself. Oh! And this way, Mexico will have to pay much less money. And that's good. Right? Is that good? That's great. You're the first group I've told that to. Solar wall. Makes sense. Let's see. We're working it out. Wait, wait, wait. It gets better. He's giving it. Solar wall. It makes sense. Makes sense. Let's see. We're working it out. We'll see. Solar wall panels. Beautiful. I mean, actually, think of it. The higher it goes, the more valuable it is. It's like... Oh, my God. Pretty good imagination, right? Yeah. My idea. Oh, yeah.

2:26:46 My idea. The solar wall, now I've heard everything. Then therefore, because it pays for itself somehow magically all of a sudden Mr. President, no, it doesn't pay for itself. Because it pays for itself the Mexicans will have to, that's a good, it's good for the Mexicans. If I was a Mexican I'd start taking those panels home. We don't want to go over the wall anymore. We just want the panels. That's worth something. That's possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard him say. He's in Ohio speech, I believe. Sorry, Ohio. They love him there. But this is a pretty good, my idea. I said Ohio, I meant Iowa. It's my idea, he says. My idea.

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

US Military Advisors in the Philippines and Duterte

RT reports that US military advisors are assisting Philippine forces in Mindanao against ISIS-linked groups, despite President Rodrigo Duterte claiming he never personally requested the aid. The Philippine Army reportedly went over the president's head to ask for surveillance equipment. Analysts suggest Duterte is in a vulnerable position and must accept the pro-American stance of his generals to avoid a coup.

rodrigo duterte· philippines· mindanao· isis· us military· miguel francis santiago

2:27:36 I thought, yeah, but he's so serious about it. Like, wow, I can understand people's heads exploding over that shit. Oh yeah. Please. If we, if we build a solar wall, I will be very disappointed. We won't. So let's take a look at some news that the U S didn't cover at all. Okay. I always like doing that. And of course the place you get that sort of news, sometimes with a slant usually, but sometimes not. It's on RT and this is the story that I didn't know anything about this. This is the Philippines and the USA and Duarte story. U.S. military advisors are there to assist their Philippine colleagues, but it turns out President Rodrigo Duterte never invited them. Artist Miguel Francis Santiago looks at how the country's chain of command operates.

2:28:26 So how aware is President Duterte of what's going on in his own country? Now you may recall that when Duterte became president last year, he took quite a hostile stance towards the U.S. Not an easy task considering you once wore a U.S. colony. I announce my separation from the United States. In military, not in the social, the military, but Today, Duterte is battling ISIL ally groups who invaded the southern island of Mindanao and captured one of its largest cities. And the U.S. military is there too, providing assistance. The U.S. Embassy in Manila claims that the Philippines government requested the aid. Apparently, it wasn't the president who asked for help.

2:29:21 But the Philippines Army with the army brigadier general Padilla saying to AP that we don't have good surveillance equipment So we asked the US military for help now the Philippine Army stressed It was only the equipment and no boots on the ground. However, I Pentagon said it's also sending an additional 300 to 500 US troops to support regular training Activities and no further details now the department President no. Well it turned out he didn't until the help arrived. I have not done that. I have not made an appeal. I said I did not even know that the American government has been providing technical. And President Duterte did not say whether his military went over his head. He only said that because of the longtime close ties between the US and its ex-colony, his army has always been very pro-American. And now

2:30:14 almost a week after that pretty surprising admission, we are learning from the president's spokesperson that he, quote, has accepted the situation at this stage. Apparently, President Duterte seems to be very vulnerable at this stage. He does not want to face a coup. He does not want to face unrest from his own military. He accepted the fact that his generals are all pro-American, pro-US, and that it seems that he has to live with that kind of situation if he wants to stay on in power. Sparky the Dimension Dog was in the guest house. Yes, I heard sparks. Now, okay, I like to look at the map when it comes to these things, and I see that we're building, we're expanding our bases. This is clearly just to sit off China's butt there.

2:31:05 Totally. I mean, is there anything going on that they needed? What, what is the rebels? What was the problem? Oh, no. Some ISIS associated group took over some town in Midland. Oh, please. That's bull crap. They've been having insurgents in that area for, I don't know, the last 50 years. Right, right. So I don't know that's how it goes. No, that's how it goes. Hey, we gotta get some shit around China. What should we do? I don't know. Send some guys in there, cause a ruckus in the Philippines. We'll call the guy, he'll call us, he'll invite us in. Datar didn't have nothing to do with it and here we are. Bingo, boom, badaling. Yeah. I could run this country. You could. Hmm. Yeah. You got to look at the maps, people.

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Flint Airport Stabbing and Terrorism Investigation

A Canadian man, Amor Fatui, is charged with stabbing a police officer at Bishop Airport in Flint, Michigan, while shouting "Allahu Akbar." The FBI is investigating the incident as an act of terrorism. The hosts discuss the media's handling of the attacker's "dialect" and the official pronunciation of the phrase used during the attack.

flint· michigan· bishop airport· amor fatui· jeff neville· terrorism

2:31:46 But that was not reported at all in the US media. No. Huh. Well, I know there's a... Yeah. No, I knew about the advisers, but... I do have one clip of the airport stabbing. That's a big deal. Yeah. Some Canadian Muslim comes across the border and stabs some guy and yells, Allahu Akbar. And... We need to, you know, over the past few days when the story broke, We need one of our Arab speakers to send in an official pronunciation. I have heard it, Alu Akbar, Aluwa Akbar, Aluwa Wa Akbar, and I've heard so many different versions of it. I'd like for us to get it right.

2:32:29 Okay, but we just need that if there is a right it may be dialectical could be could be and I loved I again a report I heard in the car when the police it was either the police chief of the method was police chief said Well, you know there was some some Muslim dialect. Oh my god Really? So I had the police chief talking but I didn't get that clip. That's good. Muslim dialect. Oh God. No wonder people think we're douchebags. White person's dialect. He say his attack a black dialect so maybe this you know no come on John isn't it's an Arabic? I know it's Arabic Muslim. It's like he had a Christian dialect But he say his attacker is a Canadian man who stabbed the officer in the neck? Declaring God is great in Arabic and making references to overseas conflicts the wounded officer is recovering tonight as authorities on both sides of the border urge

2:33:25 to learn more about the accused attacker. NBC's Blake McCoy has late details now from Flint. Urgent calls for help this morning at Bishop Airport in Flint, Michigan after a man stabbed an airport police officer. Everyone was evacuated from the airport which was quickly shut down. We are investigating this incident today that happened at about 945 this morning. as an act of terrorism. Officials say 50-year-old Amor Fatui, a Canadian, entered the United States on June 16th. He made his way to Flint, Michigan this morning where he targeted airport security officer Lieutenant Jeff Neville. Wait, so he was he

2:34:09 TSA officer about just airport security was he police just said it was a security guy. He was carrying wasn't he a gauge He went into a restroom. He spent a little time in the restroom dropped both bags and came out pulled out a knife yelled Allah Akbar and stabbed Lieutenant Neville in the neck. Neville was rushed to the hospital in critical condition. Tonight he is improving. Lieutenant Neville never stopped fighting, never stopped fighting until I handcuffed this person. The incident took place in Terminal 2 outside the secure part of the terminal. I have the official pronunciation of Al-Akbar. Ready? Yeah.

2:34:57 The goat you know It's I hope we don't start to get a situation like it's going on in Europe right now Yeah, where I think people don't even know what's real and what's not real. I mean there are things that could be totally bogus. It can be, you know, you can have terrorists this or that for all kinds of reasons just to distract from a political story. There's all kinds of weirdness going on and I detect that we have a lot of elites on the run. They're worried and they're pulling all the stops out and it's like a, you know, a cat in the, you know, driven into the corner. You got to be very careful with this.

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

The Carmichael Show and Racial Stereotypes in Media

The hosts review clips from NBC's "The Carmichael Show," which features humor based on black stereotypes, such as the claim that black people do not read for fun or drive Subarus. While one host finds the self-deprecating humor entertaining and reminiscent of 1970s sitcoms, the other finds it awkward and potentially racist. The segment concludes with an anecdote about a college roommate teaching a host how to moisturize.

the carmichael show· nbc· racial stereotypes· norman lear· modern family· moisturizing

2:35:40 Not if you listen to the No Agenda show. Well, the No Agenda show, I think we can probably find biological proof that we do help restore the synapse connections between the amygdala and the frontal cortex. Keep the frontal cortex healthy. That's the key. Keep it healthy. Well, is it the frontal cortex you need to keep healthy or the amygdala? You have to keep that healthy. No, no, the amygdala is just a thing. It's an old vestige. It's like the reptilian brain. Right, but it gets really big. Yeah, you don't want it big. That's right. So you want to just keep it, you know, just ignore it. Hopefully it goes away. It's not going to. Now, I was talking to Mimi yesterday about she's a big fan of the show. This is us. Yeah, which which I guess is a big hit. I think the show is racist.

2:36:28 I told her so. I think it's racist. It's got all kinds of under... I can't put my finger on why it's racist, but it's extremely racist. And I just sense it's racist and it's just because I live in Berkeley. So I can sense these things. It's like gaydar. You know, you're in an area where there's a lot of gays, you can figure it out. Now there's a new show called Carmichael, which is just racist because all it is is about race. And Carmichael did a bit, which I had to record because it's about It's promoting black stereotypes in a very awkward way and in this particular episode... What network is this on? I think it's on ABC. I may look in the meantime to make sure. ABC has stuff like this and I think this is us as ABC for sure. Sounds like the Norman Lear Foundation to me. We know they do all kinds of ABC stuff like with the

2:37:22 Well, now that you said anything, I have to look right now. Just to make sure so we get on the right track. What was the Modern Family? That's ABC. Yeah. We know that the Lear Foundation is very proud of their Modern Family placement. Yeah, propaganda. Oh, I have. Okay, now I have the real pronunciation. Hold on a second. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Okay, say it one more time, you're gonna become a Muslim by rule. That's right, that's right!

2:38:04 Yeah, I'm not gonna say there's a rule about that. And then you then you can't quit because they'll shoot you or somebody will. All right. Some somebody from Saudi Arabia. OK, I've got here on the guy seven point four rating. I'm looking at IDMDB. Where does this run? They don't even tell you. This is useless. Let me try to move back. The Carmichael TV show, Carmichael TV show, where's their network? There it is officially. You're failing me Smalls. NBC, NBC. Oh, okay, I stand corrected then. Carmichael shows on NBC, okay. So here is a couple of clips from the show. Now, who is this, a black producer, a black director, a black cast? I believe it's all blacks that produce and edit and write, I'm sure, and direct. Okay. I could be wrong. If it's not all blacks, then they have no excuse for their content. It's a very black show.

2:38:59 And it's moderately entertaining, but it's filled with this sort of thing that just bugs me. It's not got nothing to do with the story. It's just a bunch of propaganda. And this is a propaganda about blacks don't read. Please answer this question for us, OK? How many black people do you know that read? You mean like when they don't have to? Yes. Like reading just for fun? Yes. You mean like reading just to read? Yes, Nakeisha, reading for the sake of reading. That's a tough one. That's nothing to be proud of. For all you bragging about reading, your knowledge of black people is on a fifth grade level.

2:39:36 Yeah, Gerard, why you acting like this is news? Listen, there are some things black people just don't do. No, no, no, Dad. We do not have a set of rules we need to abide by. Sure we do. We don't ski. We don't let dogs lick all up on our faces. And under no circumstances do we ever, ever drive a Subaru. You know, this is the kind of humor we had on TV in the 70s. And a little bit there was a Jefferson's come to mind Jefferson's yeah, absolutely it was funny. You don't like this I think it's pretty funny. I don't like it. Okay. I'm not saying it's not funny or But it's if you're white and you're laughing at this material you're laughing at the can get the culture

2:40:22 And I think that in this particular moment in time where we have all this Trump hate and this relationship between Democrats and Republicans is screwy and blacks and whites is screwy and we have Black Lives Matter. I don't think it works, personally. I see it. But I could be wrong. I mean, we have a second part of the clip that's got some more of this sort of easy humor. And dogs' mouths are cleaner than humans, but I think white people just saying that to justify their actions. See, there's all sorts of rules, Gerard. Like, you gotta say all black movies are good, even if they bad. Yeah, yeah, you gotta assume all cops are bad, even when they good. We don't like halibut. But we don't eat halibut. OK, no one eats halibut. It's a very dry fish. OK, sorry, I was just getting a little frustrated. So wait, do you guys really want to live in a world where black people only do things other black people approve? Oh, I love black approval.

2:41:22 See, Toronto, these rules, they have purpose. They bind us as a community. They unite us against the threat of a white culture that brought us here as slaves. That's the most eloquent explanation I've ever heard for not reading. Well, I like it. And you know, I'm... Then explain to me that last gag. That was just a flat, it was dumb. But at least the last line there about people don't read. But, you know, when I see Jews joking about what they will or won't eat, or how they are or aren't in temple, I like it. I think that's the way it should be. And I would prefer if everybody could make jokes like that. That is not possible. Maybe never again. But maybe, I think, I have a feeling these producers,

2:42:13 They may not even intend it, but to me it's like, yeah, bring that back. Can't we just laugh about each other? Yeah, white people do crazy crap. When I went to college for all three months, my roommate was Ty Hamilton from Newark. No, not Newark, Trenton. The black kid. He was about 40, 50% black, the college I went to. And he taught me how to wash my clothes with Tide. And he taught me how to moisturize. Thank you very much, Ty Hamilton. Thank you. I've moisturized. I look like a teenager. And that's culture and it's different and I like it and we can learn from it and it's fine if you make jokes about it. Personally, I like it. I encourage this. Put a time code down there. What'd I do wrong? No, it's something I wanted to think of and consider for the beginning of the show. Okay. I'll put a time code.

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Charles Krauthammer on Middle East Pipeline Geopolitics

Charles Krauthammer analyzes the strategic maneuvering in Syria as ISIS loses territory, with Iran seeking to establish a "land bridge" to the Mediterranean. The hosts overlay this with their "pipeline theory," explaining the conflict as a battle between a proposed Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline and a rival Qatar-Turkey pipeline. The control of cities like Mosul and Raqqa is framed as essential for these competing energy corridors to Europe.

charles krauthammer· syria· iran· iraq· mosul· pipelines· qatar

2:48:15 Crowdhammer had a little spiel that was so high level and so wonderful to listen to. And that's why, like everyone, if you're at home, if you can, I'd like you to bring up a map of, uh, we'll just get a map of Iraq. John, are you following along? Yeah, I'm going to do that. I mean, we've done this, we know the area, but it's fun when you look at the map. So you look at the map, just centered on Iraq, and so you've got down below that, you got the Saudi Arabia, you can see where Iran is to the right, and you see Syria. And then you need to know that there's that little Caspian Sea right above Iran, and above that is Russia. And you remember that little piece of land, was it called Crimea?

2:48:57 that Putin stole back. Very important in the grand scheme of things if you need to transport stuff through the Caspian Sea to Iran and we know that they're all buddies. So now listen to Krauthaar, but now you have to kind of overlay the pipeline theory on top of this which I'll just reiterate briefly that Two pipelines were planned, one from Iran through Iraq through Syria into the port which is owned by the Russians of Syria and from there either pipeline but probably shipped out up to Europe. Everyone wants to get more gas, mainly gas but also oil, but more gas to the biggest customer which is the European Union, Europe.

2:49:41 On the other hand, we had Qatar, you've heard of them. They wanted to come from the South. Again, you're looking at the map and they wanted to send their gas through a pipeline through Iraq, through Syria, into Turkey, and then from Turkey to the biggest customer, the EU. That's why very early on I identified Homs and Aleppo as problem areas. Yes, you did. That's exactly where- Before anything happened. Yes, because that's exactly where the pipelines are going to have to go. Now you hear a lot about Mosul. So what is up with Mosul? Well, take a look at the map and you'll see you have Turkey above Syria, above Iraq, and above a piece of Iran. And the obvious connection from Iran through to Syria will go through Mosul. You know, there's roads. It's a little dusty there.

2:50:32 So now listen to Krauthammer. Why can't they just go up to Tabriz and go straight through to Turkey taking a left turn? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Turkey would be real happy with that. Well, if there's a good pipeline that they want. No, no, no, that's not their partner. Iran has Russia and Syria as partners. These are just partnerships. And you got all the Kurds there too, so there's all kinds of issues. But something for the first time in a thousand years is happening. So what's going on right now in Syria is the maneuvering. The Iranians want to inherit the territory that's going to be lost by ISIS. And they showed that by launching rockets today over Iraq into Syria, ostensibly at ISIS.

2:51:15 as retaliation for the terror attacks, but really a demonstration to Saudi Arabia, the Sunni Arabs and everybody in the region of their reach. The Iranian objective is to have to inherit the territory of ISIS, which gives them control of the entire northern part of the Middle East, from Iran through Iraq through Syria to the Mediterranean. The Persians have not had that in 2,000 years, and it is within their grasp. So, the Russians, the Iranians, the Syrian regime are all on one side, and the maneuver is to make sure they get

2:51:53 the territory that ISIS loses. Our interest is to make sure that doesn't happen. That's why we attack the forces of Assad, who are hitting our allies on the ground, who are the Kurds, and there are these Syrian rebels, who together with the Kurds, are closing in on Raqqa. Our objective, you were asking earlier, what's our objective in the region? It is simple. We don't want to see Assad I have a puppet regime which will be run by Iran and Russia in control of all of Syria. We don't want them to inherit the ISIS territory. We would like to see that held by pro-Western, pro-Saudi Sunni forces.

2:52:38 And that would mean, one settlement would be, that you get a rump regime in Damascus running the west side of Syria essentially. Whereas the middle of Syria is controlled by the rebels. That is a far sort of less, a far more, a far more advantageous strategic ending to all this. This I think is pretty high level chess. I don't think it's going to happen that way though. Well, he doesn't go beyond that. I mean, he doesn't have a rationale for this. No, the rationale is the pipelines. That's what I said. He's missing that piece. But even if you look at Raqqa, it's on the same line as Mosul, a little bit lower, but on the way down to the port. Yeah, it's all in the... You can see that it would be a logical thing to do and then you'd have a nice shot into those... So how does this work? ... those ports, Russian ports. Right. So I just want to just ideate with you. Ideate? Do not look it up.

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

US Foreign Policy Naivety and Media Scams

The hosts reflect on the perceived naivety of US foreign policy, comparing current interventions to the failed expectations of the Iraq War. They argue that the American public is becoming increasingly skeptical of "Mainstream Media" (M5M) narratives regarding Russia and Trump. The show is presented as a "public service" to help listeners restore neural connections and resist media-induced fear.

george w. bush· saddam hussein· m5m· propaganda· amygdala· synapses

2:53:38 Insult the book of knowledge. So we are effectively, we through the actions of President Trump, are against the Russians and we're fighting a proxy war and I guess both sides want to put rebels in to kind of manage the space. But this can't end well. Those guys are just going to be, okay, we're all managed. We're here. We're good. We're just going to live here now. We have this, we've always had this naive belief. Well, this is the same thing that goes back to the overthrowing Saddam Hussein. They were going to welcome us with cheers and throwing roses at us. Yeah. It's really, it's really racist thinking.

2:54:21 I think it's nuts. I mean, we've always, we just do not have a, we're just like, I don't know. It reminds me when they elected George W. Bush as president. This is the first president, at least modern president, who had never left the country. He had never traveled anywhere. He went to Mexico maybe once because he lived in Texas, but he had never gone anywhere. He never went to Europe. He never went to...he didn't travel. This is well-known. And in fact, an anecdote was from a friend of mine who became publisher of USA Today, Kramer, Larry Kramer. He says that he was like roommates. He was in the same school at the same time as Bush and everyone knew him.

2:55:03 And apparently that's when his dad was the ambassador to China. And when George senior was ambassador to China, he invited George to come over to China. Let's live it up. He didn't want to go. He's refused. I know if I can puke in your lap. So that was the, uh, that was the end of that. I mean, and so we have, so we have this night, the whole country is loaded with these, uh, naive, kind of an attitude about how people act, how they react, and what they think. Or what they think. What they think. Yeah, they're stupid. We don't have a clue what they think. The thinking must be, they're stupid sand bunnies. No, I'm sure there's a lot of that. It must be that. But the M5M media, I mean, come on. It's not that hard to see. If you think, I mean, Trump's actions are clearly not pro-Russian.

2:56:00 Besides the fact, the narrative is we've got to keep this Russian thing in play so we can get rid of these Republicans in 2018. I'm sorry. I don't know, by the way, I didn't mention this when we started analyzing this to begin with, but I think, and I think this election in Georgia is an element of it, I think that the public at large is reacting negatively to all, everything that the M5M is trying to do. They're sick of it. They see it as a scam. They don't, nobody by the way, no Republican or Independent or anybody listens to PBS. So let's start with that premise. They do watch the network news and I don't think they take a, I don't think they look at it kindly. I think, especially CBS, I mean, it's just a bunch of Trump haters. Well, we are here to help rebuild synapses. We are here to keep your frontal cortex as healthy as possible and to reduce and minimize the size of your amygdala.

2:57:00 And we do that almost as a public service. I think it is a public service. So if you need a cure for Bigdala or hashtag Big Mig, the No Agenda Show is your solution. Yes, and when people say, I can't listen to that, that's because the medicine is bitter, okay? It's bitter medicine! Hi everybody, we will return for another program on Sunday. Keep your eyes and ears open. You never know what'll happen. It is a show day after all. Yeah, Thursday. Yes, Thursday it does happen. Look for us on Sunday.

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Outro and End-of-Show Remix

The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, referencing their respective FEMA regions. The episode concludes with a long-form audio remix featuring clips of a woman named Nadia discussing the Grenfell Tower fire in London, alongside various news snippets about ISIS, "fake nudes," and Indian accents.

austin· silicon valley· fema· grenfell tower· isis· remix

2:57:36 And coming to you from the Cluedio in the Common Law condo here in downtown Austin, Texas, which is also known as the capital of the Drone Star State. It's located in FEMA Region 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, which I believe is FEMA Region 9. Although I could be wrong and it doesn't really make a lot of difference. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return for you on Sundays, same place, same station, same stream, same podcast. Podcast. Podcast. Until then, adios, mofo. My name's Nadia and I was born and raised in this area. Where?

2:58:29 Where are the missing people? Where's the list of the 500 people that live in that building? 600 people that live in that building? Where's the list on the news? The list on the news shows about 10 people. Have you seen the building? Not 17. Have you seen the building? Sell tits and pay for the funerals. Because they're out. Name's Nadia. Name's Nadia. And I was wrong. Where are the missing people? Have you seen the building? Where? Where? Where are the missing people? Not 17. Have you seen the building? There's no. Where are the missing people? Where's the list? It's the Red. ISIS. We will follow them. ISIS.

2:59:46 The far left is very active in the area of Dayton, but it hasn't been particularly violent since we started talking. I'm telling you, it's four, okay? ...community... ...for a kind of increase... ...no one has died yet... ...just a matter of... ...the lobbyists... ...the far left is very active in our state... ...no one has died yet... ...the far left is very active in the community... You can ask me about my stakes, but I'm not gonna tell you what it's for. I'm not gonna tell you what it's for, okay?

3:00:29 I think we're kind of increasing. are the ones inciting the violence. They use their school's idea of the groups on the farm described very well, shot through the head, you know, sideways, ripped to shreds. Fake nudes. I'm someone with a very strong, um, uh, you know, um, uh, you know, um, um, East Asian, um, um, uh, you know, um, uh, you know, um, East Asian, um, uh, you know, East, like, Indian accent, basically. Basically. Basically. I'm someone with a very strong, um, uh, um, uh, you know,

3:01:23 East Asian, um, uh, you know, um, uh, you know, um, um, East Asian, um, uh, you know, East, like, Indian accent from someone with a very strong, um, uh, um, uh, you know, um, uh, you know, East Asian, uh, like, Indian accent, basically, strong, um, uh, uh, you know, um, um, uh, you know, um, uh, you know, like, Indian accent from someone with a very strong, um, uh, you know, like, Indian accent, basically, basically, basically.

3:02:15 Basically.