Gut Punch

00:00 Whoa! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, April 20th, 2017. This is your award-winning Get More Nation Media assassination episode 9 or 2, 2. This is no agenda. Celebrating! 2020, dudes. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. From Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVora. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I produce some stuff for us yesterday. Oh, did you know I recorded some stuff some 420 stuff? Okay, you call it the hookah yeah 420 edition the best podcast in the universe everybody and we're straight Yeah, sure

01:02 No, this is a very special day for me. This is my day. It's your day. Do you know what... Like just move to San Rafael. I heard yesterday that Texas is going to legislate for medical marijuana to start. It's about time. No kidding. No kidding. I'm kind of psyched about that. Of course, April 20th, 420, although 420 is more like a time of day. Do we know the, does everyone know? No, it was on 420 at 420. Oh, it was 420. Oh yeah, well you're right. I'm pretty sure, yes. It was the, what was it? A couple of California kids? San Rafael High School. San Rafael, San Rafael. San Rafael, yeah. So what was the story? They got stoned. And all granted. The rest is lost in history. 1971. Well, you know what else today is? We don't have them on the list, but you do know what today is. No. Hitler's birthday.

02:03 Oh, that's funny. Stoners around the world have known that for years, brah. Oh man, Hitler's birthday. Hey man. Hitler. Oh, hold on. Okay, much better. There you go. All right. So that's our tribute to the 420. That is our tribute to the 420. That's all we got. Which will never end, by the way. I think this was just somehow, I don't know how this caught on, but it did. It only caught on maybe 10 years ago. I think somebody just dreamed up that. No way! Are you kidding me? I don't believe it was from 1972 on. 1971 is when they did it. I was saying, but then I don't believe it went from 1972, 73 every year after that. I learned about it when I went to college for three months and that must have been 85? Well, that's probably when it began then. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong.

03:02 No, more like 80. 1980, 81. Oh, maybe. In Salem, West Virginia of all places. I never heard of it. Somebody knew something. Well, you're not a stoner, bro. I never heard of it. I know, but I mean, I can see San Rafael from my house. What does that have to do with it? It's so close to the point of origin that you'd think that you'd have something. It means absolutely nothing. And I live in the Berkeley area, the word would have gotten around. Yeah, okay. Speaking of the Berkeley area, that is crazy up there. Yeah, I guess Ann Coulter was invited to speak at Berkeley and she's been denied. Yeah, they kicked her out. What is going on?

03:55 You guys are nuts up there. I don't know why Koldred would want to speak at Berks, although she did. She's getting paid for it, isn't she? Doesn't she get paid for that? I would presume. Probably, but she's on a book tour too. But I have to say this, Coulter's annoying and she's always out there, she's very pushy. But she, there's a speech of hers that she did at the University of California, Santa Barbara, I don't know, five, six, seven, eight, maybe 10 years ago. She's a great speaker. She's very entertaining. She's got a good grasp of the subject. She's very professional. If she was giving a speech and I had time, I'd probably go see it. That's how good she is. And I bet her. Well, apparently she is going to speak. So you should just go. And you should bring your gear, you know, get ready for some fun. You should be reporting live from, because there'll be protests and all kinds of bull crap going on. It'd be great. Yeah, I don't think so.

04:53 Well, there's so much to draw from today. Oh, we got tons of stuff. That I'm not even sure where we want to start. I mean, the only thing that the mainstream news was talking about in the past 24 hours was your accurate prediction of Bill O'Reilly's ouster from Fox News. BBC was even airing airing segments about it on the BBC radio. French 24. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you have a clip? Well, I'm going to move my Bill O'Reilly clips to the B block. Okay, we'll do that later then. Yeah. But... I got a lot of them. I think they're pretty entertaining. CBS, we could tease a little bit. No, no, no. You know what? Here's where I'll start with this. So this is a kind of a local story. All of a sudden, big, big news, Alex Jones is in the news everywhere.

05:46 I have actually the backgrounder for that which you're gonna bring up and it's actually done as a hit piece by CBS Evening News. Alright, it has a backgrounder in it? It's the whole background, it's the story in a nutshell that you can use to leverage. A lawyer for an influential right-wing conspiracy theorist made a startling claim in court recently during a child custody case. He said that the radio rants of Alex Jones are just an act. Anna Werner is following this. Among Alex Jones's outrageous claims that the terrorist attacks on 9-11 were an inside job. The whole thing is a black hole of lies. In 2014 he called the Newtown massacre where Adam Lanza killed 20 children fake. The official story of Sandy Hook has more holes in it

06:42 than Swiss cheese. Yet his radio and InfoWars internet videos have drawn millions of fans, including a certain New Yorker. I'm on my way here. Donald Trump gave me a call. Your reputation's amazing. I will not let you down. You will be very, very impressed, I hope. Not only that, President Trump has echoed some of Jones' claims, says New York Times media writer, Jay- You know, I really don't have to do my piece anymore now that all this is here because the people ask me, man, why is this in the news? Why are they doing this? Why are they doing this to Jones? And that's your reason right there. This is all about Trump. This is all about Trump.

07:19 I want you to point it, I want you to pay attention to this, I want everyone listening to the show to note that in this piece and the next couple of pieces I do from CBS, they're doing a piece about Alex Jones and then they give it to Trump. They give him the needle. And by the way, the thing that she prefaces with, this bothers me, CBS does this more than the other networks. They say, and he said that the 9-11 was a hoax. Inside job, inside job, no, no, inside job. Inside job. And then they play a clip that's got, he doesn't say that. No, nothing. He says it's a black hole of lies. He never used the word inside job. Well, not in that clip, but of course. Yes, but if you're going to say, well, Adam Curry said that you're a douchebag and then I play a clip of you talking about some rocks.

08:13 Star that you met how is that got anything to do with it, and she did it twice All my stories about rock stars that I met so very Impressed I hope not only that President Trump has echoed some of Jones's claims. He says New York Times media writer Jim when President Trump said that the mainstream press is covering up terrorist attacks to you know cover for Islamists and That was directly out of Alex Jones when President-elect Trump Raised the possibility that some three million people voted illegally that had been on Infowars But now his own lawyer suggests Jones shouldn't be taken at his word His comments came during Jones custody battle over his kids According to one report attorney Randall Wilhite said Jones is playing a character

09:07 And let me guess lady, I think you probably talk just like this at home because you're not a performance artist. No, you are just a human being. Is that my point there? Everybody is a performance artist in media. There are very few people who are exactly the same as they are in real life. Except, of course, us. Us. You know, I am an actor. We're all actors. But I believe in what I stand for. But Lutenberg says questions about Jones could raise some for Mr. Trump, too. We've never seen a catch of that.

09:47 or mimic some of the Reporting from said conspiracy theorists. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just gonna do that all the time So you're clearly a performance artist because when you say things like well, he is just set of said performance artists get doing it. Oh We reached out to Jones for comment, but he and his lawyer told us they're prevented from speaking by a gag order in that custody case. Scott. Anna Werner. Thanks. Oh, thanks. Wait, don't say anything. I got a few to tie into this. So not my setup, obviously. Alan Dershowitz was on with the overnight legend Don Lemon.

10:25 and along with Toobin and Toobin actually played the hand here that this is all about Trump. Now the problem here is Donald Trump who's the president of the United States as you may remember What a dick. As you remember, he's the president of the United States and you remember... Sounds like a performance artist to me. Now the problem here is Donald Trump, who's the president of the United States as you may remember, has said Alex Jones is a very important voice. Your reputation is amazing, he said to me on his show. And I will not let you down. That's where this gets interesting. You're right. We don't like... I'm sorry, it was Cuomo. If we can avoid it on the show... Okay, hold on a second.

11:05 Yeah, it was Cuomo. Let's stop right there with this, with the gratuitous Trump quote, I will not let you down, which was used on CBS too. That was said during the era, very early on in the campaign, when Alex Jones, along with just maybe a very few of these radio guys, that would include Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage, came out and supported Trump against all the others during the primaries. And Trump went on every show he could. He went on Savage all sorts. He must have been on them maybe two, three dozen times. He'd come on, he'd yack, yack, yack. And he hasn't been on Sense, which is pissed off Savage, of course. But he says, that's what you can expect. But this was all part of this whole thank you for supporting me, and I won't let you down. It's got nothing to do with anything in this story, zero.

11:58 It is bullcrap that they're doing it. And it was actually, here's Dershowitz, who took Jones's side in this from a legal perspective. But he's a phony? There are people who hang on his word, the attacks that I get, professor, whenever you even encroach on questioning Alex Jones. If he's a phony, what would that mean? Well, first of all, he's going to argue. I'm not a phony. He's going to say I'm just an exaggerator. I play one on television, but he says, I believe this to the depths of my feelings. I believe all this stuff. Well, then he's in a bind. Because if he does what he is supposedly, and I didn't check it myself because I don't listen, Alex Jones.

12:38 He supposedly said something. Stop, stop. I know. I know. I know. I don't listen. What kind of a douchebag starts analyzing some guy? Well, you know, I've never seen a show. Well, I will tell you exactly what kind of douchebag. This was very prevalent in Europe in early 80s when I was on television people would meet me or see me see me on the street or supermarket or some social event and be like yeah oh hi yeah yeah I don't watch television I don't know who you are I don't watch music television I don't know who you are just just douchebags there they exist douchebags and Alex Jones but the he supposedly went on the show said something a little different tried to salvage if he does do that

13:21 Now he's got a problem, right? Because he's got to lose somewhere to win somewhere else. That's exactly right. And look, to his credit, he seems to be putting his kids in front of his career. You've got to give a guy credit for that. Yeah, you've got to give the guy credit for that. Well, let's just stop again. First of all... They're gonna bring the ideas. This is a custody battle that does not this actualist anyone's talking about I've never heard his wife's name mentioned in this the reporting of Alex Jones in the custody's battle is not about Alex Jones. That's why it was about Trump, but Let's just go back to what the premise is, which is that Alex Jones plays a character. They have, Alex Jones obviously wants custody in some form or another of one or more of his children. And they're gonna drag out all these crazy stuff. You have a clip at the ready about babies being born in cattle. My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows.

14:18 Now that... Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'd like to present to you Exhibit A. Odd for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! Do you think this man should be anywhere near children? Yes, that's exactly the problem. So they have to put forward this thesis that he's playing a character and he is playing a kind of a character but he's not insincere. But the law cannot forbid parents how they educate or raise their children. No, it can't. But the juror, whoever's deciding whether he should have custody, and if you roll out enough... We've got some great clips of him going berserk. And that is not gonna sit well. I really don't see the need to discuss his custody battle, because it's not about that. No, I agree. But that's the... Here's the reason I'm discussing it. The rationale for the promotion that he's a phony

15:15 is because of the custody battle. And there's a reason for that need to do that. And then they extract that and say, well, he's a big phony and Trump likes him. I don't see how you can leave the custody battle out of it. The reason why this defense was introduced by his attorney, it worked very well for Hulk Hogan, who said, hey, you know, I'm not Hulk Hogan. What's his real name? Paul something or other. He says, so all this stuff that is with that persona hurts me personally. And you have to separate these two things. That's my work. You know, if I were a clown or if I were a high wire tightrope walker or, you know, it's his vocation. So I think it's a very typical defense in family court. I don't think it's, it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. If you're in show business. Show business.

16:06 And that Hulk Hogan was and so is Jones. Exactly. All right, so it's all about hating Trump. I got it. But I have better Trump hate because hate Trump's love as you know. I'm back on the beat. Okay. At the view. Oh, this is about the Easter. Let me sit down and relax. Yeah. Now remember there was this big controversy about Easter and it was started by the people who traditionally make the commemorative wooden Easter eggs. and they had not gotten an order this year. And so that's the genesis of the story. For the White House lawn rolls? Yeah, that's the genesis of the story. And then what, and I don't think this is true at all, this meme, and then Melania was the one who said, oh Donald, oh Donald, Donald, we have to do Easter egg roll. Come on Donald, Byron will like it.

17:04 I'm working on it. I'm working on my Melania. You're yes, yes. Here's the view. I understand that you want to be the maverick or whatever, but there are some traditions that require you pay attention. The Easter egg hunt is more is representative of all children in the United States. You take kids to schools, you take... That's part of what you're supposed to do. That's part of your job. And if Melania's supposed to be doing it, someone needs to get her with the program of what she's in charge of. Yeah, because... You know, because she may not know that this was part of it. But I am glad that she knew enough to poke his ass and tell him what just happened. So, Tany, I don't know any adults that hear... But, Natalya... People are out.

17:58 Here's the truth of it, it takes an immigrant to remember to do that. There you go. Now wait a minute. When Joy Behar says that, she's saying, okay, it takes an immigrant to remind him that he has to do that. So he's referring to Melania. But what is she really saying? It takes an immigrant. I mean, you need a stupid, stupid moronic immigrant to... That's the way I hear it, what she's saying. It took an immigrant. Oh, you need an immigrant. What you're saying is that the inherent racism in Joy Behar's remark was just a way of slamming Trump as being dumber than a dumb immigrant. Yes. But also microaggression against immigrants. She doesn't know she's doing that. Worse, and I have a couple of examples. This is hitting me more and more. I hear people say things about people who are generally

18:57 Unlike by Dimension A, and the terms they use to describe are exactly the terms they're accusing people of. Well, let's stop for a second and remember about a year ago, one of the members of the crew of The View, one of the main people's, they were talking about immigration, and said, who's going to clean our toilets? And everybody went ballistic once they realized what she'd said. I wish I knew what clip that was. I don't remember. It's a great clip. It's actually on the Inner Tubes, but well, it's not important to play it. It's just funny. People remember it.

19:39 But yeah, there's a lot of this. There's a lot of that going on. A lot of it. What's that? I could tell when you're looking for stuff because you're not really fully, you're just... I'm just talking to myself. I'm just... Toilets. Toilet. That's exactly it. Database. Toilet. Bayhar. View. Whoopie. No, can't find any of it. So we have... are social justice warriors gearing up for the big event up in Seattle. It's time once again. It's the traditional May Day and they're expecting some brouhaha up there. May Day is now less than two weeks away in Seattle. Police say they are making sure they're ready. It's not a protest, but it sure looks like one. This is training that we use throughout the year. As you know that there are multiple protests in the city of Seattle.

20:34 Today, SPD utilized a warehouse in West Seattle to train officers for the 2017 May Day protests. One group of officers acting as aggressive demonstrators while officers in riot gear practice crowd control techniques. We always take our cues from the crowd. So as long as everything is peaceful, we're there to facilitate the march. SPD says this year they've heard of additional groups gathering in locations like 23rd and Union and 2nd and Union and Victor Steinbrook Park. then moving on to larger gatherings. Okay, so we're expecting some trouble. There's going to be trouble. It's all the all the black block and the hoodies and the social justice warriors. And of course, we all saw the woman who got punched in the face in Berkeley. Louise Roselma is her name. Yeah. And I have a little interview here with her.

21:30 I don't remember who did this interview. I got the raw footage off of the YouTubes. And the first thing that's very noticeable, she has a very, very smooth skin, very beautiful face. Not a nick not a bruise not a nothing on her I mean especially because she got whopped man He would have expected at least some kind of bruising, but he didn't see any of that I thought yeah, I I think he missed but I think he could have broken her nose if he Placed a punch this all to the left when we get into some tech news later on I want to talk about some of my experiences with some of the Millennials on mastodon the the new social social network that we're

22:12 we're federated and a part of because I've noticed a trend. I'm all ears. They lie. They lie like crazy when it comes to their own victimization. So in order to say I was victimized, they lie. I mean, outright lie. Well, that's interesting. That's going to bring a couple of interesting points during the O'Reilly discussion later in the show. Okay. Just teasing it. All right. Well, you know what? Then we probably should do it this way. Okay. We'll start here. Now, we all saw that. Of course, we've only seen a piece of video because one of my pet peeves is no way we don't have the whole situation. But from what we saw, her story does not check out at all.

22:58 And especially when you take into account that on her collective, the collective's facebag page, she posted a picture saying, yeah, I'm going to go into the protest, going to get me at least 100 Nazi scalps. This is what she said, or posted. So we all recall that. Take that into account. And you saw her trying to throat punch the guy who beamed her in the head. But just listen to this. The Oak Ridge Collective is a... The Oak Ridge Collective. Umbrella collective for a bunch of smaller collectives that are local to different counties that are around here. We're an anarchist Antifa

23:35 Collective so me and my friends were fleeing and as we were running away She likes this word fleeing by the way she likes We were fleas everything is flea with her except. She this is the only time she uses it grammatically correct running away I was running away most of my friends, but oh yeah, she wasn't running away. We saw what I was trying to find my like just follow my lawyer and who suddenly just disappeared and I couldn't see where he was and the next thing I knew I'm like trying to just like block myself away from different people who were like pushing me and just like attacking other people and I was just trying to get out of where I was because I was in a really like cornered spot.

24:25 The next thing I remember was like turning around and from the corner of my eye I saw like this fist coming at me and I didn't have any time to like Like understand and process what was going on I just like put my arms up to like kind of push him away as much as I could and He just totally like threw himself into me. Oh Wait punched me like right on the bridge of my nose Which it kind of cut it a little bit, but it's already kind of healed It kind of cut it a little bit, but it's already kind of healed no no lie No, there's not a single abrasion on this beautiful young smooth skin But I got thrown down. I'm pretty sure he just ran he fleed he fleed John I Think it would be he fled

25:21 He fleed. Oh come on, that's wrong isn't it? Yes of course it's wrong but I like it if you think about it in terms of the small pest of fleas. I'm pretty sure he just ran, he fleed. I got right back up, I was punched twice more by two other people. People kept trying to throw me down to hit my head on the rocks that were in the planter. And I was really just trying not to get my skull cracked open. But they kept throwing me down and the last thing that happened was someone came up

25:59 It was crazy because I made eye contact with him as he was running up to me and he grabbed me by like my shoulders like this and he started to mean my forehead a bunch of times. But I kind of just tried to struggle away and I like tried to get him off me and they all just kind of ran. They fleed. It was like quick hit and runs and it was over. Was it all men? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was all men. Was it all men? Yeah. Yeah. I realized, I knew that they were like trying to crack my skull open on the curb and on the rocks in the planter. So I was like understanding that much. But it really seemed like they were trying to hurt me as much as they could. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah. She wasn't going to hurt anybody because she's only going to get 100 Nazi scalps. Exactly.

27:00 And there's no video of all of this stuff that she's talking about. None of it, none of it. So this brings me to this line. This is interesting. So within the... I consider it to be a Petri dish, Mastodon. So we don't have to talk too much about it. The Petri dish part is this federation and these servers who are silencing and blocking and don't want to be able to interact. And it's really dimensional, but it's gone down such an incredible rabbit hole. And, you know, and I think I told you on the last show that this one, you know, the, a lot of the no agenda folks got into a tiff with this one other person. And, you know, she was like just, you know, Oh, you're harassing me. And I didn't see any harass. I didn't see any name calling or anything. And she was, you know, contacting admins block, no agenda, social.com these nights are no good. And then she said,

27:55 And of course, even though you can't communicate with her between servers, you can still look at her public timeline, anyone's public timeline, just like Twitter, I guess. If you're blocked, you can still see it by logging out. And she verbatim, she said, the admin of Knowage in the Social came over and said that he was going to bring everybody over here to harass me. Which I... and nothing. And it's a complete fabrication, complete and utter lie. Who's the admin? Isn't that you? I'm the admin, yeah, I'm the admin. Well then you would know. And we have screenshots, the whole thread is still online. It's absolutely not true. So it's just a lie. It's a lie. And then what's worse is she later unblocked me. I'm sure she was just waiting to pick up more stuff. It's really, really insane. And all of them are like this.

28:48 And this takes me to the rift, the split in this virtual universe, which is really fascinating to watch. We have now two factions. Are you ready for this? Because this is some new speak of the highest order. We have the... I'm ready. We have the... I'm sitting down, I'm ready. So there are these block lists that are going around. So these kinds of people are saying, these are the servers that you want to block and they're sending it to admins. And of course we're on it, obviously, because there's two types of servers within the Mastodon universe, the safe speech server and the free speech server.

29:35 And I'll give you the definitions as per the admins here. Safe speech is the priority to make sure everyone feels included, welcome and safe and that they can share things about themselves without facing criticism or ridicule. Free speech With few limitations, every topic is on the table. Ideas, not people, can and should be interrogated, picked apart, and thoroughly understood, even if the process makes some people feel uncomfortable. This is typically used for white supremacy, words of white nationalism, and Nazis. So they are literally taking free speech as a term and turning it into something evil, and blocking free speech.

30:23 and saying they're blocking free speech. Wow. Now let me read to you the terms of service from some of the biggest servers within Mastodon. You really need to, and it's a little long, but you have to hear it. The following, we're blocked by these guys of course, the following types of content will be removed or blocked from the public timeline. Excessive advertising, uncurated news bots posting from third-party news sources, untagged pornography and sexually explicit content, untagged gore and extremely graphic violence. Racism or advocation of racism. Sexism or advocation of sexism. Discrimination against gender and sexual minorities or advocation thereof. Xenophobic and or violent nationalism. Sexual depiction of children. Okay, I'll take that. Content illegal in Germany or France such as Holocaust denial or Nazi symbolism. If you conduct promoting the ideology of national socialism.

31:23 Any conduct intended to stalk or harass other users, or to impede other users from utilizing the service, or to degrade the performance, blah blah blah, by continuing to engage... Here it is. This includes but is not limited to the following behaviors. These are the three foreboding behaviors. Continuing to engage in conversation with a user that has specifically requested for said engagement with that user to cease and desist may be considered harassment regardless of platform-specific privacy tools employed. so you can't engage in conversation. Aggregating, posting and or disseminating a person's demographic, okay that's doxing of course, that's harassment. Inciting users to engage another user in continued interaction or discussion after a user has requested for said engagement with that user to cease and desist. Informally called brigading or dogpiling. This is harassment. But they can block anyone they want. Okay. But still this is

32:24 reasons for termination or block. Yeah, from that server. Yes, well, it's... it does kind of break the whole concept. But I don't... you know, I wrote a column on this. I don't know if it's running today or... I saw, yeah, a lot of people saw it. Nice column, by the way. And may I just say, I witnessed the journalistic work of John C. Dvorak. I was very impressed. Here's how it goes. I'm, you know, actually I just upgraded the server. I'm looking at stuff. Boom, John pops on. Ten minutes. He's like, okay, boom, boom, post a couple pictures. How you doing? Click, retweet, why is this a toot? How come I don't see the favorite? Okay, adios, mofos. And then your column appears. Ten minutes! Ten minutes, brilliant! You're so good. You are so good. It's called being a quick study. You're a pro, man. Total pro.

33:12 Anyway, so back to this lying thing. Well, let me go back to my column. I'm sorry I want to mention I think that what you're describing is I in the column I described it as a benefit what that server has done is created a safe space and they're all obviously taking themselves seriously to have these huge terms of service of using their their older they're oh so precious server It's about it's about being hurt John because these are the words they use and It's hurtful. You can get hurt by those people. The no agenda social people are hurtful. They hurt me. Yeah, sticks and stones. And that's goodbye to that. Yeah, that's a dead, there's a dead meme. Now I like it. I agree with you. I think, first of all, I don't want to be blocked because I want to follow these people. I know I'm studying them. Here is, here's a profile.

34:11 of some woman who was somehow involved, I'm sorry, I'm assuming her gender, some person who was involved in this ongoing lie fest. And she has a, what is it, not a Kickstarter, but a crowdfunding. She lives in the UK. And I look at this and this is the kind of people I'm dealing with here. Hi, we're Kalen and Lauren. We're a couple of trans folk with mental health issues and we're trying to find somewhere to live. This is- this is for the crowdfunding. I mean, really? That's a nice pitch. It's all about victimizing. I'm a victim. I'm trans, so I'm a victim. I have mental health issues, so I'm a victim. I'm not laughing about mental health issues, but please. We're struggling to get by. We're on disability benefits. We want to move. We want to move to a nicer home. We don't like the council flat that we're in. Please help us. And these money, people actually send money to them.

35:10 Well, they send money to the woman who got punched in the face. Oh, yeah, I sent a lot of money to her. Well, not that much. She wanted 80 grand. Yeah, she wanted 80. Now, I want to just contradict something you said. Okay. Which is that you're blaming this on the lying millennials. Blaming what? The lying. No, I said- You said the millennials are a bunch of tolerable liars. They lie and lie and lie. What am I blaming that on? I'm not blaming any. It's a fact. Well, no, you said it was millennials. Oh, yes. I find it's the millennials who lie. Yes. Yeah, I think that's bullshit.

35:46 And I'll tell you why. Because before millennials even existed on CompuServe, they used to, or actually it was the source which predated CompuServe as one of these information utilities, very similar to Facebook. The source, wait, the source became AOL? No. Yes. I don't think so. You tell the story, I'll look it up. Anyway, the source was one of these things, it was like CompuServe and AOL. And it had this thing called PARTI, P-A-R-T-I, or participate. And within it, you could develop these and build these communities. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone, any online system actually do this. And I got to witness a community being built up on lies before millennials ever

36:34 and watch it destroy itself on based on lies. There's one woman who was a phony that was in there and it was beloved. She was arrested for drug dealing in San Francisco. The word got out, got somehow back to the community that this woman that was playing this. role in the community as one of the leaders was actually a phony and she was a criminal and it was the damnedest thing you've ever seen but it was just the amount of lying that was going on in there. I think it's part of the online thing that you yourself have pointed out with the selfies being a pack of lies. Yeah, okay, good point. So it's just, well, let's put it this way. Parents

37:16 Who are on those communities and built that community out of a pack of lies. They taught their children well This is their case. I think it's I don't blame any of the people I blame the online for experience itself It's the thing you have to prove that you're having a good time because everybody else is doing that Oh, look at the great lives. Everyone else is leading but me That encourages the bull crap. So it's more, it's human nature is what it is. It's human nature which is then completely enhanced. Well, human nature has never run into these online systems before. No, no, it's facilitated. I think everybody lies. Yeah, well it is facilitated but I think it's I blame online more than I blame millennials per se. That's what I'm trying to say. Okay, I hear you. And it's by the way your thesis. Yes, but I'm noticing this

38:07 I'm just looking at this here. It was bought by CompuServe, but they later sold pieces of it to Control Video Corporation, what became AOL. So we're kind of both right. In this case, tell me when you were seeing that community being built, the lies, what were they for? Because the lies here is, and I think this is why it's unique to millennials, the lies that are being told are in relation to victimizing. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. Look what he did to me. Look what he said to me. Ooh, I'm a victim. I can't remember that far back. Well, this goes right. This is,

38:47 I think that's a societal thing. The victimization thing has been... I think that is just a moment in time I don't think it has to do with a specific group and I think you find it from older people. In fact, I'm gonna show that later when we do the Bill O'Reilly takedown. Alright. But the victimization of these women at Fox, they're all in their 50s! Well here's something that's happening right now which I think we'll hear about in the news. I don't know if it's Well, it may be seen as victimization. Are you familiar with the Starbucks unicorn frappuccino? First of all, I'd ask the question, why would I be familiar with such a thing? You might have seen some marketing about it? No, I'm totally, you've got me completely, I have no idea what you're talking about. But you got to look on the Googles, this is the most disgusting looking drink. It's like purple and has all kinds of

39:37 All kinds of what's the name of it? I'm gonna look it up. It is the Starbucks. Yeah unicorn Starbucks unicorn Wrap you sure it's not just an April Fool's joke. No look at it look at it. Okay, the unicorn frappuccino now there it is three bucks right now Now I want you to... It's for kids! Oh yeah? There's no coffee in it. Yeah, it's gotta be caffeine free. Okay, now I want you to look at the bisexual pride flag. Seriously. And while you're doing that, I will read the Urban Dictionary definition of unicorn.

40:18 It's that girl that you can't catch. Everything about her is so perfect, divine if you will. Getting with her is unfathomable. She is truly a blessing from God. Bumping into her on the sidewalk is a good day. Holding a conversation with her, you were probably dreaming. Anything beyond that, good luck. Good luck, it takes time." And then it goes on to say that this is a bisexual... Yes, the bisexual pride flag, if it was made into a liquid, would be this drink. Yes. So the belief is now The way I have been told the story is bisexual millennials feel victimized by Starbucks that they're making fun of them. And this is the extent that it goes to. Now I want to say, the similarities in color is quite remarkable. Yeah.

41:11 It's exactly the same. It looks like the same three colors, at least in this photo I have of the drink. It's got the pink and the blue and the purple. So I would do the following on your little Horowitz-Dvorak unplug show. It's not little. It's a good show. Short Starbucks. This is going to blow up in their face. I can do that. I'll do it on the game in the next show. We'll put this up. Short Starbucks. And while we're on that, can I ask you, I listened to the show. I think this is very, very interesting. This is permeating the underground, what you just said. You watch it. I'm just saying it. I think it's very interesting that it's that something like this would be permitting the undergirds how paranoid everybody is. Yeah, yes. That drink is an assault on bisexuals all in unicorn. They use your unicorn. We know what that means. Wow. Okay, and

42:04 So I listen to your show every Wednesday night when I go to bed after well like 1 30 in the morning when I go to bed I can't sleep because I've been doing clips and everything and as you said this before you use the show to doze off Yeah, but that's I don't mean in a bad way lots of people doze off to this show. Yeah, I think so But I know you're not driving people so Google missed their numbers The Alphabet, whatever, they missed their numbers, correct? Every quarter, every public company... I thought you wanted to say Google missed their numbers. Well, the company. No, the way you said it. Yeah, okay. Did you understand what I was talking about in reference to the show where that's exactly how it was said? Oh, Google missed their numbers? We actually said that? Yes. In that sentence? Yes. Porowitz did. Okay, so Alphabet did not accurately predict

42:59 their earnings numbers and I want to ask you with all their brilliance and arrogance about their brilliance with all the technology in the world how can they not project their earnings accurately? Well... Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I said enough. Something smells fishy. This system is designed for rigging. I loved your I love your take on North Korea. It's like there's got to be somebody over in North Korea who is manipulating markets by saying, okay, hold on, I'm going to buy low here on defense stocks. Okay. Hey, yo, haircut boy. All right, go make some noise. Fire off a rocket. Boom. Defense stocks go up and then you can short other stuff.

43:54 Gold goes up, typically. I've said this for years, by the way. I don't understand. I actually can't believe it's not going on everywhere. In fact, there used to be a thing, I'll tell this story, I think I may have told it on the show once before, when Jack Tramiel was running Commodore. And it turns out, I checked into this and it was like, what? Because it turns out to be what I'm going to describe, it turns out to be legal, it's called dry testing. So what Tramiel did, and this was in probably the late 80s or mid-80s, something like that, he came out and he made a big announcement. Commodore was going to bring out a PC, two of them as a matter of fact, and they had them. They had mockups of them, and they showed them. And they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that, and they're gonna be some outrageous price. The price is ridiculous. So the price was out of control. Everybody would have been put under if this machine comes out.

44:51 The stock went from like three bucks or something like that to like $30. And then Tramiel comes out, it's what it is. Then Tramiel comes out and says, you know, we looked it over, we really can't produce these machines at these costs, at these prices, we're canceling. And they canceled it. And then the price goes back down to three. Now if they had anybody offshore Knowing about this, but they were gonna do they could have made millions and millions of dollars in just a few weeks absolutely and And then I looked into what what is they doing these announces thing then they say no and the stock goes skyrocketing again crashes It's called dry testing and it's legal. Yeah, the reason it's legal is because a lot of people are

45:42 Well, they think they've got a product, they're not sure they can sell it, so they kind of announce it and see if anybody orders it. And then if they don't order it, or if they don't get enough orders, they just send back the money to the people who ordered it, and then they pull it, and that's a dry test. And you have to be able to do that. Otherwise, capitalism doesn't make sense. But it's a great way to manipulate things. Anyway, I got my eye on this, but I really love being in this, in this, these two universes, virtual universe. It's a, it is a study in human behavior of epic proportions. It is beautiful to watch. It really is.

46:25 Well, you're having fun. Yeah, well kind of it's tiring. It's a lot of extra a lot of extra work quite honestly half the time It's disgusting especially this some of the stuff you come up with winning me what I come up with yeah the stuff from the view Let's take a little moment here. I I know we identified it early on but it has been building for a while Maxine Waters is She her star is rising people. She is she is just completely whoo Maxine 2016. That's right. Maxine 2016. Here's Maxine 2016. Got a couple of clips. We'll start with Joy Reed who was so happy she even takes time to read Maxine's tweets. And this week the congresswoman took to Twitter to remind us all to stay focused on Donald Trump's relationship with Russia. On Friday she tweeted, Trump wore

47:18 Is there a reason why you said 2016? Oh, I guess I got the year wrong. 2020. I'm surprised it took you that long. Maxine 2020. Maxine 2020. The fact of the matter is this liberal will be all about socializing. Maxine. Hello? Water. Scumbag. Maxine. Maxine. Maxine water.

48:05 What are you the most concerned about? Of all of the sort of menu of issues, emoluments clause issues that we've been hinted at with Donald Trump that could be in those returns, what to you is the biggest worry that is in there that we're not seeing? And this is all about her push for the president's impeachment. Well, I don't want the president of the United States to be compromised in any way. We don't know who he or owes and how much he owes. There's all of the rumors about, you know, having borrowed money from Russia during the 2008 crisis, because many of the major banks in this country would not lend him any money, because

48:47 of all of the debt that he had incurred and the bankruptcies that he had filed. And so, we cannot have a president who can be blackmailed, who can be compromised, and we need to know more about his debt and his business dealings. is almost obscene. I really hope you know what I mean. Maxine, Maxine, Maxine. And Maxine spoke to her people as she started to rally everybody up and got a little chant going. I don't respect this president. I don't trust this president. He's not working in the best interest of the American people.

49:34 His motives and his actions are contemplable. And I will fight every day until he is impeached. Impeach 45. And wait for it. Impeach 45. Don't forget who he is. He's shown us what kind of human being he is, and he is not going to change. Ladies and gentlemen,

50:16 My millennials, stay woke! My millennials, stay woke! Yeah, that's your ISO of the day. My millennials, stay woke! Oh God, please make her president. We should be so lucky. I know. Oh man. My millennials, stay woke! Does she have any idea what she's talking about? And she is I really doubt it nuts nuts all right. I want to talk about O'Reilly I think I have one little thing well I'm to lead you in to lead you in or You don't want to take a break here was this for I wanted to take the one that you see right to lead into the next break I'm sorry. What do you want to do? What do you want to do here?

51:08 Well, let's talk about, let's go to Europe and get a little Euro news. Yeah, the French election is coming up. We've got Balkan. Yeah, cool stuff. You got three things. First of all, you have to know that Frauke, yeah, from Deutschland, the cute little Frauke Petri, she's quitting. Aha, I did not know this. Here, Frauke Pettig, Bales won Deutsche Welle. One of the leading figures of Germany's right-wing populist movement has dropped a bombshell ahead of September's federal elections. Franke Petry says she will no longer lead the Alternative for Germany's campaign and she's ruled herself out as the party's lead candidate amid rumors of party infighting. The AFD has become a significant electoral force under her leadership.

51:57 I guess this AFD is really just a seething pool of backstabbers. Sharks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just finished off with part two. You can also, there's another little tidbit in there. She's pregnant with her fifth kid and I think she just can't take it anymore. Is this game over for Frauke Petry? In a video statement on Facebook, the face of the right-wing populist AfD says she's not interested in a top candidacy for the upcoming elections. I'm using the opportunity of this video message to clearly state that I'm neither available for a lone lead candidacy nor for a top team.

52:38 Petri's withdrawal avoids a further escalation in what had already become a Shakespearean party power struggle. It saw Frauke Petri set against pretty much everyone else within the AFD leadership. Detractors feared that she was trying to shut down more extreme voices within the party. Most prominently the regional AFD leader Bjorn Höcke who openly voiced right-wing extremist views. At an AFD gathering in her home state of Saxony a few weeks ago, Petri broke into tears over criticism of her leadership. With today's decision, Petri, who is currently expecting her fifth child, may well have jumped before she was pushed. Wow, what an analogy.

53:25 Child dumped pushed. Thanks. Nice visuals. It was all in there in France I don't know if you saw this bit of course, of course, it's a tight race is a tight race. Yeah, it's a tight race, but Riots everywhere the what's-his-face the the other guy against not the other guy But what's-his-face who's running against the yeah more so. Yeah that guy. Did you see what he did? He did a five simultaneous location, so-called hologram appearance. No, I missed that. Yeah, it was cool. And it wasn't real holography. It was the, you know, the pepper... It was that smoke and mirrors type that they've done with... Pepper's ghost, yeah, Pepper's ghost is what it's called. Yeah, that's right. That's what it is. I put it in the show notes if anyone wants to understand how to do that, because it's a great illusion. Yeah, wasn't it done with Tupac some time ago?

54:15 That was no that's real holography. I'm not buying that. I'm sorry. It's branded as real holography But what it is is it's really just a video screen in a mirror, and then you put lighting truss above it And it looks just like Like it's a hologram. It's a very cool effect the peppers ghost So this is they're pulling out all the stops making them look like a magic man. I like it. Yeah, it's very good very I do have a Marie Marine Le Pen Clip because she was attacked on stage by some lunatic a millennial and

54:50 Another Star Wars character Darth Vader reveals that he is in fact Marine Le Pen's father The images are signed off with the warning do not vote for the National Front Also spotted was Marine Le Pen being compared to Harry Potter's nemesis Lord Voldemort Well at least it's not Hitler. I mean they get fictional characters. Well as the presidential candidates entered the final leg of their campaigns, National Front leader Le Pen came under physical assault during her rally in Paris on Monday.

55:36 This is crazy man. A female attacker tried to grab her but was quickly blocked by Le Pen's bodyguards and then removed from the stage. It didn't take long then for the presidential candidate to continue her speech. We spoke to a French lawyer who says that these kinds of actions only demonstrate the small-mindedness of such attackers. It is well known that violent arguments, violent ideas are pushing persons who are sometimes too weak to control themselves to violent actions.

56:15 This guy goes on with this thesis, which I didn't want to record because you could barely understand him, which was I thought was kind of funny, which was anyone who's violent. It's kind of dumb. There you go. Perfect. Just kind of to summarize what he's trying to say. Then in the while, yeah, Brexit. We got the Brexit. I went to the UK, the Gitmo Nation GMT, the election. I got the clip of a bunch of things from the Prime Minister question time. First of all, this feels a little bit to me...

56:53 Like, although I know why she's doing it and I didn't have time to get the clip. Well explain what she's doing and then what you think White people... But what she's doing is she's saying that she was a liar because a year ago she said hundreds of times, I will not call for election. There will be no election. No snap election. No elections. Read my lips. No elections. Yeah. And now it's, well, I'm sorry, you've got to have an election. Well, she's actually called out by, I think her name is Patty. She's a labor member that comes up and she's very nasty. And she, she called out the prime minister. This is the clip called out by Patty. And by the way, wait, before she says it, while this woman is giving it to her, I have never seen Teresa May with such a nasty look on her face. She was just given this woman, the evil eye.

57:43 The Prime Minister yesterday said she was calling a general election because Parliament was blocking Brexit. But three quarters of MPs and two thirds of the Lords voted for Article 50. So that's not true, is it? And a month ago she told her official spokesman to rule out an early Do you think that guy's acting? full of himself too. By the way, I put that, I let a little of the yelling in there. That yelling actually went on for about five minutes. Nice. The house is rather, the house is rather over-excited. The question has been heard. The answer will be heard. The Prime Minister.

58:50 This House and this Parliament voted to trigger Article 50, but the Labour Party made it clear that they were thinking of voting against the final deal. The Scottish Nationalists... The Scottish... The Scottish Nationalists... The Scottish nationalists have said that they will vote against the legislation necessary to leave the European Union. The Liberal Democrats say they're going to grind government to a standstill and the House of Lords have threatened to stop us every inch of the way.

59:27 I think it is right now to ask the British people to put their trust in me and the Conservative party to deliver on their vote last year a Brexit plan that will make a success for this country and deliver a stronger, fairer, global Britain in the future. You know, this, so I'm looking on the face bags, and I still have a lot of friends in the UK, and pretty much 100% of them that are in dimension A. Like, oh, I really hope someone else wins who's gonna stop Brexit. There's a real feeling this is a do-over, a second referendum. That's dimension B. I'm sorry, B. We're in A. We're straddling, bruh. Yeah, we're straddling, bruh. But we're in dimension A generally.

1:00:14 Okay, I'm good here. You can put yourself in dimension C with that stuff. Oh, quick callback. Void Zero made an outstanding observation in the back channel here regarding millennials and people lying and just everything going on with social media. Back in the day, it was too costly. You were tying up your phone line. It was remember we were charged by the hour Yeah charged by the hour sometimes for your dial-up time So people weren't wasting their time bitching and moaning and showing their dumb food pictures the minute we got flat flat bandwidth You know eat or drink all you can that's that's when the food pictures came. That's when the food pictures That's when they started

1:01:03 Exactly. Anyway, back to question time. One of the things that they're critical over May 4th, she's decided, I think there's a mistake by the way. I think this is a blunder, but she's gonna do it anyway. And I think it is kind of gonna... I don't know if you can reverse Article 50 or Section 50, whatever it is. Maybe you can, maybe you can beg for mercy and go back into the EU. I was thinking about... Which is my theory, by the way. Can I just say... Well, it may be so different when you think about... All of the, like I was hearing a report, I was listening to BBC Radio 5 I think, I don't know what it was, and one of the big issues that if Brexit really takes place they're going to deal with is data.

1:01:47 You know, EU has a lot of really, really strict data retention rules and you know, this is going to be a nightmare. A nightmare. I'm sorry you can't have your service over here because you're not retaining it here. You're not part of the EU. They're going to pull all of that out. They're going to make Britain's life so difficult. Apparently, they're already starting to make their lives difficult. And I think the Brits are starting to notice this. They may have to have a, I don't know how this is gonna end, but it's not gonna be pretty. But let's listen to the classic complaints. And by the douche, and I hate to say, I know we have a couple Scottish listeners. I'm not referring to you specifically. But the Scottish National Party, or she likes to call it the Scottish Nationalist Party.

1:02:33 Ha is Are a bunch of douchebags. They don't like the British British don't like the English and they just they've just there's nothing but troublemakers in the Parliament and here is the and the main guy of course is Angus Robertson who has got the great Scottish name of Angus, but this is the clip This is Angus redebate and more and this is his complaining and this is the general tone of the complaining about this election Speaker, it's disappointing the Prime Minister didn't take the opportunity to condemn intemperate language in describing other democratic politicians. Well there's heckling from the other side and I think the Prime Minister should take the opportunity to underline something that we should all agree on. That describing people in the way that we've read in some daily newspapers by leading politicians is not acceptable.

1:03:24 Mr Speaker, most people know that the reason why we are actually having a general election is because of the woeful state of the Labour Party. If the Prime Minister is so confident that her hard Brexit, pro-austerity, anti-immigration case is right, then she should debate it with opposition leaders during the campaign. We look forward to the straight fight between the SNP and the Tories. Can the Prime Minister tell the people why she's running scared of a televised debate with Nicola Sturgeon? First of all, can I say to the right honourable gentleman, one of the crucial things we have in this country that underpins our democracy is a free press. And I believe that is important and I believe people in this chamber should stand

1:04:12 up for the freedom of the press. And as to the TV debates, I can assure the right honourable gentleman that I will be out there campaigning in every part of the United Kingdom, taking out there our proud record of a Conservative government that has delivered for every part of the United Kingdom. And I might suggest to the Scottish nationalists that actually now is the time for them to put a fire Wait for it. Now is the time for them to put aside their tunnel vision on independence and actually explain to the Scottish people why under the SNP they're not putting as much money into the health service as they've been given from the UK, they're not exercising the powers they've been given and Scottish education is getting worse. It's time they got back to the day job.

1:05:06 I love how she's managing the crowd like she's doing stand up. Wait for it, wait for it. He's bitching about some nasty remarks that were made in the press about some of the Scots. And I find it funny that he would do that because during the attempts to ban Trump from ever going to England. It was the Scots calling him a buffoon and a clown and they were just excoriating him and now they're hurt. So they're just troubled. I don't understand, you know, if it wasn't for the oil fields just off Scotland's coast. Yeah, and the fish. And the fish, they'd be done. Just say fish. Fish. Fish. A fish.

1:06:02 So that catches people up with what's really going on. This is never reported, of course, in the US at all. And then we have Turkey, Ottomania, going crazy. So they had the referendum and there was a lot of opposition saying, it was rigged, it wasn't right, it was all wrong. Shut up, slave. So he got it done, I guess. Erdogan and he's going to change some constitutional. Yeah, he's gonna kill the Constitution. Yeah, the Turkish Constitution. Yeah, a lot of people think this is fraud and all that. I think he won it because this thing people don't realize that Turkey is

1:06:47 Except for the two or three cosmopolitan areas, Istanbul, Ankara, and maybe there must be a third, I'm assuming. It's really a bunch of backward people. Yeah, that place near the... don't they have a coast somewhere? Yeah. There's a very backward people in general. They're very religious, conservative religious. Wow, that is exactly the term that Pim Fortuyn used to describe Islam before he got assassinated after he won the election. He says it backward, backward culture is what he said. Well, they're very conservative in the rest of the country and it's the most of the country.

1:07:28 And as far as they're concerned, this whole experiment with secularism and, you know, Ataturk and the rest is just, it was a bad idea. And they're just all in because that's one of the reasons that the army always had to overthrow these guys who came in with these, with Islamist thinking. Because they would, they could take advantage of the people that are out in the sticks who don't care. They're just assumed to be in Yemen. And so I think he won the thing legitimately. I think that there's just that many people in Turkey that don't really like, and they probably all hate. It's like almost years ago in France, I think there's still a little bit of this left, but not so much as it used to be, where everybody outside of Paris hated the Parisians and they hated the people there. Well, it's not unusual. So yeah, Turkey's a good, just gonna be fun to follow.

1:08:21 Now you got a clip you wanted to play. Yeah, I got it. I was listening to Dan Benjamin. From Austin? Dan Benjamin? Your buddy. From the 5x5 technology networks. Dan Benjamin has a podcast on podcasting and it's not as good. The first thing I would recommend anyone wants to think about doing the podcast, you might want to listen to the first five episodes. He's up to episode 20 something now and he's out of material and so he just kind of That's why he wants to interview me. Okay, I got it. I'll have to say yes he's kind of out of material and So it's not as the first five I'd say we're loaded with information is really good stuff And he's kind of up-to-date on some of the crazy technologies a lot of the stuff I've never heard of and it's it's it's if you're in doing podcasting you

1:09:14 you might want to listen to these early ones. Later on he just kind of, you know, just yacking away. In fact, I couldn't hear it. There was nothing in this particular episode that I thought was even about podcasting except this little lament that he had about advertising and podcasting. Again, when I started doing this in 2008-2009, it was all sponsors and because there were so few games in town, you just pretty much had to show up and do a podcast and someone would pay you to be on it because there were so few high quality podcasts out there. If you had great content and great audio quality, you would get sponsors, you would have an audience. It was pretty much guaranteed. If what you were doing was quality, you would get support from sponsors through ads. Now even some of the best podcasts out there are struggling to get at because

1:10:03 There are so many sponsors now, but they have really become focused on return on their investment ROI. And it is you, you are competing not just with other podcasts in the area of focus that you're talking about. You're competing with all other podcasts because generally speaking, sponsors just want listeners. Listeners are, I hate to say it. Your listeners are essentially a commodity and they want to, the sponsor, the advertiser wants to buy listeners and they want to, they want to buy listeners and they want to get them as cheaply as they can. Well well well ox I know Well with that

1:10:49 I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Sui where the C stands for clipping other people's podcast. Dvorak! In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. All the dames and knights out there. In the morning everybody in the war room. NoagendaStream.com. Good to have you all in there working very hard doing good stuff. Thank you. Appreciate it. And in the morning to Nick the Rat. Nick brought us the artwork for episode nine or two one bagels and bins was our Easter episode beautiful piece of art and we debated that this could be used another but it's just so beautiful with the eggs in the background and the kind of the yeah it was a moment of debate yeah it was a moment of debate yes exactly but it was beautiful absolutely beautiful yeah it's very pretty for some I mean just use the right it's just pretty I don't know what and we appreciate that and of course that's why we always credit our artists and

1:11:43 Please have a look no agenda art generator comm it's really a great a great site for fantastic humorous art And we always choose something from that for our album art in the show still not supported by Apple's podcast app but there one of the things that Benjamin pointed out which is the selling the listeners to the advertiser which is what most podcasts do and or they try to. They put together a group of listeners and they say, look at who we have listening to our show, would you like to advertise to them? So you're the product. And we've talked about this a couple, every year we talk about this. You're the product. And this is how special interest publishing works. It's how special interest anything works, is you're the product and there's an advertiser that you're being sold to. We don't do that.

1:12:32 Now, that's why our demographic is so wild. We have everything from kids to oldsters to everyone in between. Can I just play a short clip as an excellent example of how you truly are a product even after you bought a product? Yes, please when you're listening to your favorite music or podcast you may be getting spied on That's what one Bose headphones customer is alleging in a new lawsuit Kyle Zach says he followed Bose's suggestion to quote get the most out of your headphones By downloading the Bose connect app. He says he gave his number name and email address According to the complaint Bose made detailed profiles of listening history and habits Zach says the company violated the wiretap law How about that?

1:13:17 Yeah, commoditizing your damn customers. It's despicable. It is despicable. Well, Bose was actually one of those companies that was Nazis, aren't they? No, no, but I'll tell you not to even say that because they're very litigious. Oh, I was just a joke. J.K. Nanu Nanu humor. They had. Ever since they were...I think some of their products are good too, but they had a mediocre review that was put on them by Consumer Reports. And they sued Consumer Reports, I'm sure. Yes, they did. And then they were blackballed by everybody else. And you have to always...writers are black...we black...I could tell you a couple of companies that

1:14:02 And it's always kind of subtle. It's not like you don't sit around an editorial meeting and say, we're blackballing this guy, or blackballing a company or blackballing anybody. You just know. That's a very strange thing. And it's always like, I remember this is one company, I can't remember the name of it, they make computers and they would sue everybody. And if you didn't review it, so nobody stopped, we just stopped reviewing them or even talking about them. And then there's an offshoot of these guys that came around with some other product. And Bill McCrone and I, he said, McCrone and I said, aren't those the guys that come, they used to be, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all it was. Boom, they were blackballed. No one has ever said to do that. It's just known to, you just do it. And so. Yeah, that's like noagendasocial.com. You just block them, blackball them. You just do it. You don't need to know what's going on. What do they call us?

1:15:03 Like, um... Troublemakers. No, something bros, I don't know. Bros? And along with this, the funniest thing, that one millennial social justice, lying millennial social justice warrior posted, he does a podcast! Let's go after his advertisers! No, yes That's great. Go for it. Everyone's like yeah, come on go after advertising it on they're strapped. They're ready for you One Wow all right, let's thank a few people for show 922 starting with and remind me to tell my My podcast story right after the donation segment. I got a good one

1:15:46 Okay, hold on. Oh yeah, you're right. I wrote it down. Because you know and I know both. I will not remember to do that. The war room needs to remind me. In fact, even writing it down, I'd refer to it. You even forgot what you want to write down, didn't you? So we got a few people to thank. Sir Ononymous from Dogpatch. 1281.38. This is a big donation. We want to thank him profusely. Now this guy. I have no idea who this is. What's the number? Well, I don't he doesn't really say but I'll tell you this much he Most of the anonymous donors, you know who they are because they you know, they have their name it know this guy This guy sends in a check with no name on it. Just a numbered check and his signature is unreadable

1:16:40 The envelope comes in, it's mailed in, the envelope comes in with no return address and some sort of a stamp that doesn't even have the city on it. In other words, a pre-canceled stamp. So this guy definitely wants to remain anonymous, but looking at his donation, I think this is great. This is the week he writes a note. This is the, maybe I can... If this is, I think, you know, every sheet of paper that goes through any printer, this is a little tip for you out there. Here's a printer tip, everybody. Every printer puts a code on the paper. Yeah, for if you're copying money and stuff. Yes, for counterfeit. So you can always find, if you can find the code, which is in light yellow, you can't really see it.

1:17:27 You could track it back to the person. So my recommendation to people like this is to put some blank sheets through in different directions, both sides, and it'll print over itself. It's called...it's hashtag just the tip with John C. Dvorak. This week, he writes, is the confluence of the US federal taxes Easter and Passover. Your personal effort in offering your time and skills during these important days is noted and appreciated. Beyond your outstanding work, insight, and interaction with a global network of listeners, producers, your work ethic should be celebrated and admired at such times, and, of course, rewarded. Agreed. Thank you. Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Brother Angelic Knight,

1:18:14 One ounce of gold in paper form this that's it. That's wow Oh, that is amazing. What a great donation Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm gonna give him some karma. You've got karma I didn't know what it meant either. I pre-read the notes, I read them cold. Yeah, cold reader you. Cold reader, Adam Bold, $1,000, another big donor. I've been listening for a few years and have never even come close to donating. Never even come close because I'm a colossal douchebag. I make no apologies and ask for no de-douching. I would like to be known as an instantite.

1:18:57 I would like to be known as Sir Peppy if it is already taken. Good to go. I would like to call out Eric Wardell as a douchebag. Thank you guys for doing your part to get God Emperor Trump elected. We didn't do our part. Could you please play some Shedile at the end of the show? Shedile, what does that mean? I don't know. He has a YouTube link which makes it kind of complicated since we're already in full production. Yeah, praise Keck. Well, we may move that to the next show. Yeah, I'm going to have to work on that. Wait for the end of the next show and you'll get that. We'll give you some karma and

1:19:36 That's the best we can do, I think. You've got karma. The oddest thing is- the oddest thing has started happening. That whenever I pull up a YouTube video, it always- the title in the, um, in the title bar, in the tab bar, now has the number 203 in parentheses. And I think 203 is a redirect or something, but it's now showing up. It's very odd. Huh. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I know. Rob, the Night of the Desert Sprawl, 384-57-38457. ITM, John and Adam, again, thank you for your twice weekly dose of sanity. All those listening, please donate to demonstrate appreciation for John and Adam's efforts. Or just sit there and suck it. I now proudly reach Baronet with this donation. Is he on the list for that? I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he is. I'll double check. Prost, Prost, Prost and Karma, love and light.

1:20:35 Prost prost Karma and that was Adam Bull no he's not on the list Adam Paul that was robbed the night of the desert sprawl yeah That's what I said robbed the night of the desert sprawl. I'll put him on okay, Rob You know what skull comes from? Skull you mean the like the toast skull no The Vikings used to drink out of skulls. No. Yeah, no. Check it out. And they spoke English? No, skull. Look up skull. You'll see it. It means skull. They said skull. The English is not skull. There's no word. It's skull. No, it's skull. Okay, all right. But you could say at our house we drink in this fashion and when we do a toast we say skull. You guys are hilarious.

1:21:31 You're like the Brady Bunch. Yeah. Sir Baz, Vaughn Bateau of Bateau Bay in New South Wales, 33333. Hi! Baz That toe here. I'll send an email this gives me to Baron you may want to check the PayPal button on your site It was throwing an error when I try to use the link in the various newsletter and it worked. Please tell me which Which site you're talking about we have about 700. I think he's talking about the Dvorak org slash na. Okay. Well you check that out. Yeah, there was one some guy wrote me a note. He says

1:22:08 There's a this link doesn't work and he says but the other link which is exactly the same link does work. So there's something amiss. Yeah, that's what I said. Let's see if there's any email from him. I want to look him up. From Sir Baz? Yeah, I don't know what is... We can check this another time. I'll write it down. Okay. Oops. Anyway, he's got a birthday. He's on the list, I think. No, he does not. He's not on the list. He's not. He doesn't have a birthday. One of my things. I don't know. Ewan Robertson, 27488. He'll be associate executive producer for show 922. Good morning, gentlemen. I thought I would like to try again as I failed to explain the donation on Thursday's show. Ah. 2788 is B-P-I-T-U. Ah ha ha ha.

1:23:01 If you were to text it, I apologize for the mix-up. As an aside, your job karma worked. My brother, Baronet Haggis, was recently hired. Please let me know how to organize a meet-up in Tampa. That would be fantastic. He wants jobs and regular karma for everyone. Cheers. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! karma. Yeah, just meetup.org and get people you know, get people going if you got something happening there. Ping John, he'll maybe send out a news. Yeah, and develop your own new your own mailing list for the end of the day at the end of the day. The end of the day. Roll SK in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Sir Roll, I guess $250.

1:23:52 Roll SK here from the parts of the prairies, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. The Paris of the prairies, not the parts of the prairies. Well, you can see how I can make that mistake. The Paris of the prairies, yes. The Paris of Canada, I understand. I've got a visit. I want to get a big meetup in Saskatoon. Okay. Please send me some job karma as I was fired at the end of last week's Thursday show. Damn. That's what I get for working for douchebags. Keep up the great work. I'm gonna give your former employer a... DOOSHBANG! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! YEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH! You suck. Karma.

1:24:44 Sending some karma to Pesca Yoga during finals week. Go Hard Rockers. Still looking for album art from Stoop Designs. The end of show mixes from DJ Tourette. Oh, and the end of show mixes from DJ Tourette. Then I want to take this opportunity to remind people that after every- This is like code. This whole message. Yeah, of course it's code. I want to remind people that after we say goodbye, there's a couple minutes of very funny mixes that people put a lot of work into. I found this out that Tina the Keeper had never even heard him. She said, no, when I, she said, when you say adios mofos and you're out, then I'm done. I said, do you know that there's like four minutes? She said, no.

1:25:30 No, but adios mofos is at the very end. I say adios mofos and then the mixes begin and that's when she was turning it off. So but that's really funny stuff. Is it all techno? Kind of, but it's still funny. Yeah, it's mostly, yeah. It's still funny. A lot of this stuff is professional, it's club material. We've listened to a number of things that could be played anywhere and the people would go, wow, that's cool. Yeah, I have actual professional DJs from time to time saying, hey, who did that mix? I want to talk to that guy. Yeah, of course. Cool. These are mixologists. Mixologists, yes, yes.

1:26:10 Robert Doland in Shelby Township, Michigan, I guess. 20170. He says, ITM, I could get a whip him with the Constitution and karma. Net Ned in the war room. Oh, there's net Ned in the war room. Okay. Hold on. I wasn't quite ready for this one. Oh, here it is. I got it. All right. Now get out there and whoop him behind the Constitution. I heard that one a while. Thanks. Thanks. I like that Dennis Cruz is on the list here for $201 out of Portland, Oregon He does did send a note in I was 420 day. He is he's the biggest advocate we have on the show He is I think so

1:27:28 I could be wrong. I think he's the guy who sends us information about THC and cannabinoids. Oh, okay. Well, he might be. Yeah, it could be. He does send a note in, but it was actually for 920. He doesn't really say anything about this. Episode 920, yes, I missed this one. I've been trying to listen for a few days now. Just back and forth. Just a normal note. Okay, well maybe I'm wrong. I try to know everybody who listens. Yeah, well, we do our best. But give him a karma. Of course I'm going to give him a karma. Weed karma. You've got karma. Well, he is in Portland where it's legal and I should remind him in Portland that that town is bankrupt. Just so you know. Just so you know.

1:28:13 Finally, last but not least is Raymond Lee. $200.02. Thank you, Min, for doing your show. Today is my birthday. Oh, I don't think so. Yeah, it's on the list. It's on the list. Raymond's on the list. I was going to send $420.25, $105, but I thought, hell, here's $200. You're doing the Lord's work. Keep it up. P.S. I share a birthday with Adams or with Adolf Hitler. Huh? 420 is what he's saying. Yeah. Yeah, which we discussed. Yes, we discussed it in the show. And he ends with our slogan of the week. Fowler Hitler. No, Fish. Oh, I'm sorry. That's the next guy. No, I'm sorry. I'm off. I have eye problems today. I can't get the right focal distance. There's a bunch of people who... Yeah, Hitler.

1:29:06 Well, I didn't notice it. I didn't know anything about this Hitler guy until you brought it up early in the show. Yeah, he's crazy that guy. Hey, thank you very much executive producers and associate executive producers. This is fantastic. Our instant night. Great. We have a good ceremony. We got some, we have a lot of different title changes coming up. Big birthday list. Very excited about that. It's going to be a great second donation segment. Of course, this first one is where we thank the big supporters, the big financial supporters. And these credits are real. You can do all kinds of stuff with it. Impress men and women alike. Hey, you know I'm the executive producer of the No Agenda Show, episode 922. Check it out, brah. It works, it really does. Or put it on your LinkedIn. You're saying brah too often. It's 420. Oh, I get it. It's thematic. Okay, I'll stop. Please remember us for our show coming up on Sunday. You said it more like a stoner, I think it'd be better.

1:30:01 Bruh. Really? You want me to do that now? No, no, no. Remember us for Thursday show. Dvorak.org slash N-A. And on this 420, it may take you a long time, but you can still propagate it. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, citizens. Shut up! I wanted to tell a little story about... I'm sorry? Nothing.

1:30:38 Nothing, I'm just saying slave so I Wired magazine contacted me they want to do an interview about what about podcasting good And I said sure but you know I have a device coming out And I'd like you to mention that as we're talking about it. Okay fully well knowing that that may not happen because oh you may Do I see it that may not happen and you may not even get the no agenda plug in please if they even do that So, on, was it Tuesday, the woman calls, and it's a very young woman, I'm thinking 20.

1:31:15 And she may not even be writing the interview for all I know. She may just be doing the legwork. And I'm like, okay, this will be interesting. And she said, but I really want to know the differences between 15 years ago when it started and now and, and which of course was very easy for me to weave in stuff like a value for value model, my podcaster pro project, all that stuff. But I knew I was in trouble when I said, you know, the questions you're asking, a lot of that's in your March 2005 edition where it was a cover story. I'm on this cover story. She said, really? Yes. She said, oh, but I had no idea. Like, OK, so she's going to interview me. Didn't even look in her own archives if there was anything that was written previously.

1:31:59 But as we're going along, she came up with a question that the answer ties into a lot of where we are today with podcasting and my thesis about advertising. And it came to me when I was giving her the history, because it basically was why Why did it take so long for podcasting to become popular? Why did it take so long? You know, it was 10 years at least, but really more like 12, 13 years before all of a sudden it popped. And we know that the ground zero of the second pop on podcasting was serial, which, you know, I could explain as serialized. I would agree. It's not even a podcast. No, but it's serialized episodic content. And so it was a lot there. But I was able to tell her what happened and it blew my mind.

1:32:47 I know so we had pod show and now we're talking 2005 six And if you recall, there was a competitor that jumped on the scene and the competitor was interesting and in some ways, you know, worrisome because they had a beautiful flash interface and for uploading your podcast, but also for listening to podcasts and managing your podcast and subscribing to them. And the company was called Odeo. And it was really like, holy crap, these guys are doing something pretty good. Now, I think they were self-funding. It was Ev Williams and, uh, and, yeah, and, and, you know, he had some money, he sold a blogger to Google. So they were self-funding and once they launched, it was definitely a competitor, uh, but they couldn't make money and they were running out of money. And we had, you know, we had raised a lot of money foolishly. We had raised a lot of money to do podcasts, lots of money. And so they kind of shuddered.

1:33:47 But here's the important things to remember what they did instead of subscribe if you recall back in the day When you said hey just subscribe to my podcast people like no I did but what does that cost because they were still in the magazine newspaper model? Oh interesting remember this so they came up with follow and Many people don't know this or don't remember Odo shuttered and came back as Twitter did you know that I did not know this, that Twitter came from, I thought Twitter was, I thought Twitter was strictly devolved from Blogger. No, no, they took the publish subscribe mechanism and the follow and they turned that into Twitter and what happened then, so we were the darlings, we were popping, podcasting is great, look, and YouTube wasn't there yet. Look at all this great stuff, it's fantastic, you know, this is great radio being reinvented, all of a sudden, Twitter, like whoa.

1:34:48 All the media attention went to Twitter. It was all about Twitter. And then YouTube came out, and then Facebag, and then all these different social networks. And that was a true explosion really born out of podcasting. And here's the interesting thing. You still, they still can't make money. Didn't matter whether it was Odeo with podcasting, doesn't matter whether it's Twitter with the, it's all the same publish, subscribe, follow a list mechanism and you cannot monetize it. You can't make money with it. Okay. Now explain why. You can't, it's, it's fact. It's like the sun rising in the East man. You can't make money by monetizing the network. It just doesn't work.

1:35:35 You can only do it if it's a closed, walled-off system. That's why Facebag works. That's how it works. Twitter is desperately trying, but the whole infrastructure is too open. No one has ever gone bankrupt from creating a walled garden, I'll tell you this. And the minute you do it free and open, which I call the network, you can't monetize it. It just fails. It does not work. How about Try it with Twitter. We're gonna go talk about that. I think it's your insights very interesting anyway, but Twitter itself Well, they just put a big giant ad on the page. Yeah, that's the mechanisms of making money with display advertising is so

1:36:23 Look, it's supply and demand. There's no way to create scarcity. Banner advertising, or was it display and click advertising is an all time low at CPM. It's just you can't make money, not in this centralized world. You can try to come up with why, but it's just a fact. It just does not work. It only works, look at AOL. AOL went from a closed system And it was like, we want to be on the internet. Then it was really the internet. Then they became just another Yahoo or anything else. And then it becomes very difficult.

1:37:00 and they were no longer walling their users in. Oh, you can't go outside these bounds. And of course, Twitter's main problem is brand safe advertising. They don't control every... YouTube has the same problem. YouTube was doing it on purpose and now they're going to have a problem with their numbers because they have to scale back and can't show Pepsi ads on Nazi videos. It just doesn't work. But I like that it was born out of podcasting. Did you die?

1:37:40 John God not this hello John I can hear I can hear you doing something yeah, yeah, here's what well hold on you gone again come back Testing testing yeah, you're there. Yeah, I should be here. What happened. Okay? What happened? This is a new little glitch Yes, I heard everything by the way, and I was gonna I had a good gag in there And it didn't go through to it, so I am using a sure x2u

1:38:16 as my interface between the microphone and the USB port on the little computer. Now on it there's a small button that is the plus 45 volt... Yeah, it's your phantom power. The phantom power button. The thing is hanging from the mic stand and When I move the mic stand the thing kind of swings and it swung and hit the mic stand and hit the button Oh, I turned off the Phantom power. Okay, I got it. Yeah, can't you scotch tape that thing? I know it's good gaffer. I need a gaffer. I said that last show I Think scotch tape or bad just a couple of band-aids. Can you just use that? Surely got some band-aids laying around just stick that box against your but a mess. Are you in the shades too?

1:39:09 Yes, I don't have a chaise, I have a nice comfy chair. Oh man. Alright, so let's uh... I think you made your point, which you make every once in a while, and I think it's a good point to make because people have to realize why we're doing the show the way we're doing it, even though some people complain, oh, you should just get advertisers. And of course, advertisers, we'd be fired from the show, we wouldn't keep advertising. And the threat that you just cited a minute ago with this lunatic from Mastodon. Yeah. Yeah, go after your advertisers. Because that's kind of what happened to O'Reilly. Do you know what I did when she posted that?

1:39:47 Yeah. I went because she has a Patreon page and she I think she makes $60 a month for writing poems and short stories. You know, she has like nine supporters. So I signed up for the $25 a month. And my reward for signing up for $25 would be a personal poem that she wrote. So I'm like, oh cool. I'm gonna sign up and I'm gonna have her have her do a love poem. And I got a note from Patreon. I should actually read the note to you. Wasn't prepared for that, hold on. This is so funny. So $25, which almost doubled her monthly income. This is from Patreon. Hi Adam, we're writing to let you know that one or more of your pledges on Patreon has been removed by Patreon's trust and safety team for engaging in bullying or harassment. What? So she refused the $25? Yes.

1:40:48 Because you harassed her? Well, she complained and said he's bullying me, harassing me. By giving her money that she's asking for? Yeah. Let me get this straight. She's asking for money. Yes. And one of her deals is that she'll write a poem if you give X amount of money, which is in fact $25. So you obliged. Yes. As a regular nice guy. I thought it would be kind of cool. And she refused to take it because you're an a-hole or she's identified you as such. Wow. He's always going to be broke. And I just saw in the war room, I just saw in the war room, there's a, here's what you do. You sign up for something. If you want to mess with me, sign up for their Patreon just before it hits, you pull so you're not charged. How mean is that? That's mean. That's a flaw by the way. That's a flaw. No, that whole thing's got flaws. Yeah, it's a flaw.

1:41:46 So what I was going to ask her was, why don't you write a poem or a story about these two camps, and just write something nice about it. But maybe, I don't know. She can't. She's firmly entrenched in dimension B, and she's obviously in A-hole. And a liar, apparently. A liar, I tell you. A liar. A big liar. Oh my goodness. Well, here's let's move to a while. We're talking the topic of liars. Mm-hmm. Let's move to this is another CBS Which is the station of liars? Mm-hmm, and they're gonna they're going after Ivanka Trump. Oh and Of course, this is you know, every show has got something that's a going against, you know, it's hammering. Oh

1:42:34 slamming Trump somehow and this is Ivanka Trump's and there's some interesting facts in here that I think that should be commented on. The Trump family has vowed to keep its vast financial interests separate from the government but today we learned of a possible conflict of interest involving the president's daughter and top advisor Ivanka. Well, what about Bobby Kennedy? There's a lot of examples of this being bullcrap, what they're saying. On the day that she had dinner with President Xi Jinping, China served her business, potentially lucrative trademark approvals, on a silver platter. Justice Correspondent Jeff Begay is looking into this.

1:43:12 When President Trump hosted Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago, the foreign leader was serenaded by the president's granddaughter. That performance was posted on Instagram by Mr. Trump's daughter and advisor Ivanka and it went viral. in China where she and her fashion brand are immensely popular. The same day as Xi's visit, according to the Associated Press, the Ivanka Trump clothing line won provisional approval for three trademarks from the Chinese government. That clears the way for Ivanka's jewelry, bags and spa services to be sold to a market that includes more than 1.3 billion people. I think that's wonderful for Ivanka that her businesses are doing well.

1:44:00 and everything would be just fine if she weren't also working in the White House. Richard Painter was chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush. He says as a formal advisor to her father, Ivanka risks violating the law. She has to comply with the criminal conflict of interest statute which will prohibit her from participating in government matters that have a direct of predictable impact on our businesses and this includes trade with China. But photos show Ivanka attending events with President Xi. In a statement, her lawyer says Ivanka has had no involvement with trademark applications submitted by the business.

1:44:41 In an interview with CBS This Morning's Gail King earlier this month, the first daughter said that she intended to stay within the law and had shifted some of her holdings to a family-run trust. I put in place an ethics trustee. It took me a long time. I went through every permutation of what was the most responsible way to do this. Richard Painter and others have sued President Trump over his business conflicts. Scott, according to one fashion analyst, Ivanka Trump's company saw a 771% increase in sales between February of 2016 and February of 2017. Industry experts call that number incredible and insane. Lock her up.

1:45:24 Now, a couple of things. One, I wish they would get her out of there because I don't like her husband Kushner, who seems to be tied up at least by some people's investigations closely with Soros. And he's also a well-known Democrat globalist and I think she is too. I don't think they need these people in the White House, first of all. Secondly, the interesting number at the end, the 771% increase in sales harkens back to why did Macy's kick out her line of stuff? Because Macy's said, oh, it's not selling. So that was purely political. And by the way, Macy's is a failing company. Wow, you sound like the president now.

1:46:13 No, it is a failing company. We talk about it on the Norwich show. I know, but he always says, you know, the failing, the failing, the failing Yahoo, the failing, it's failing CNN. And the reason I believe is failing just as an aside is that they went to central buying because everybody, there's no, there's no buyers at the local stores. Oh really? Oh really? And that's why anyone with any smart money and I... That is a mistake. When I used to travel more, I would always buy my suits at the Florida Macy's. The Dacron ones? Yeah, the Dacron ones. So you can get all the top brand suit makers. They're always on sale in Florida.

1:46:59 Because nobody buys these heavy suits in Florida, but the central buyers, they distribute everything around the country. Another great tip. Another shopping tip from John. Well, I heard a rumor about Ivanka, and someone was really surprised I hadn't heard the rumor. The rumor is there's a little bit of a love affair between her and Justin Trudeau. I doubt it. I'm just telling you what the rumor is. Just telling you what the rumor is. Your vocal fry is getting on my nerves. Ivanka's? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't take it. Yeah. Well, that's what it is. I do have a wine tip since you brought, you gave me credit for giving a shopping tip. Not just that, we have a printer tip, a printer tip, a shopping tip, and now a wine tip. And on my list, I have a cognac tip.

1:47:52 Yes, wine tip, okay, yes. And we now call it Ivanka Fry, not vocal fry. These are Costco people. They've always wanted, everyone wants to give these tips. I'll give you three tips of really interesting wines and a cognac from Costco. And I think the cognac's in the Easter egg because it's a little too cheap. If you see these following wines at Costco, I brought a bottle here, whoops, that'd be funny. You have your wine in the studio? I have the wine in the studio. It's not open. Does it break glass in case of emergency? There's a collier wine. It's 100% Malbec and it says Chateau de Haute Serre. H-A-U-T-E Serre, S-E-R-R-E. And this collier wines are 100% Malbec generally speaking. It's a little area south of Bordeaux that is a very charming place to visit. And this

1:48:54 Car wines tend to be kind of bland and uninteresting except a few good ones. This one here, I think it's 18 bucks, is an absolute stunner. Absolute stunner. Second wine. There's a wine you can find at Costco, most of them, and there's tons of it. It's a $8.90 wine. It's a liter. It's a liter bottle, so it's a little bigger than a 750. It's, you know... Yeah, it's 25% more. Yeah, you get more for your money. It's called Cote Mass, M-A-S. Cote Mass. And this is a...I believe it's a Languedoc, Southern France wine. Generally speaking, these things are not that interesting. This one, for the price especially, is outstanding. It's delicious.

1:49:43 In fact, it's a very good like a bistro wine, but it's just dynamite and it goes with everything. It's just a killer. Now last but not least. I gotta do more of these for people out there. Again, I don't know if all the Costco's have this, but one of my favorite XO cognacs over the years, especially when they, I think I first had this cognac maybe 30 years ago, and it's always a stunner. It's a single vineyard, Grand Cru, Grand Champagne, which is the area that makes the best cognacs, not any of these phony bologna areas that are lesser.

1:50:20 or they're trying to promote them. And it's a Frappin, like F-R-A-P-I-N, it's their specific single vineyard called Chateau Fontpino, F-O-N-T-P-I-N-O-T, XO. This wine, which normally sells for about $160 a bottle, this particular XO, Chateau Fontpino, is at Costco for $99. And they have it next to the Remy XO and the Hennessey XO. This thing, and those are like $140, $150, $160. This thing for $99 slams those other two. There's no comparison. No comparison. This is the one to get. And I think it's an Easter egg because it's actually underpriced. I've never seen it this cheap. By the way, it was not 25% more. It is actually 33% more. Ah, yes.

1:51:16 It should be marketed as such. Those are you with a screw top. Yeah, screw top too. So those are your three tips. There's something for everyone in that. Totally. Code mask. That's what I'm going for. It's my kind of. You should. It's it's stuff is absolute killer. You're going to have any go. This is killer. So. Elizabeth Warren is out on the road. She has a book and this is what you do when you're gonna gear up to run for election. Of course, she's running in two years for her Senate seat again. But we know that it's her time now. I'm not calling her Pocahontas anymore. We did that, we started that, what, five years ago? Six. And since the president started, I don't want people to be confused.

1:52:04 There were Trump lovers. Yeah, and they would think we stole it from him Yeah, so she appeared on a whole bunch of shows with similar stories But I do want to play a couple clips from them the first one is that microaggression I was talking about earlier or may I put it this way if anyone else has said what she's saying They would be called out Why is it the case that people at the very top should get a bunch of tax breaks, should be able to hide their business dealings, when everybody else pays, everybody else gets out there and makes our roads and bridges work, makes our schools work? Let's see what Donald Trump is up to. This book is all about taking the fight to Donald Trump. Yes, but in recent days, he's actually done a 180 on a

1:52:48 A host of issues. I mean, I could name them. On Putin, on China's currency policy, the Ex-Im Bank, it goes on and on and on. Do you look at that, NATO, do you look at that as a sign of improvement? Are you willing to give him credit for that? Actually, let me frame this slightly differently, kind of the way I talk about this in the book. The real question here is who does government work for? Does government once worked for hard-working families? Government once worked for the middle class? What's happened since about the 1980s forward is that a handful of billionaires and bankers and folks

1:53:25 If I had said that, I would have been immediately accused of code for Jews. Billionaires and bankers. You're saying Jews, Warren. ...is the handful of billionaires and bankers and folks, CEOs of giant corporations seized our government... Jews, that's what she said. If anyone else had said that, If anyone else had said that. I think you're right. I think you caught it. As an aside, Brian of London, who's in Israel, and he's a media guy, he goes on Israeli TV all the time, but he talks no agenda smack, is really good. And he promised that he would do a little slipping and a little no agenda stuff for us. He got into those social justice warriors who were calling him a Nazi. And he said, do you know that I'm a Jew living in Israel? It's a little weird for me to be a Nazi. Good on you, Brian.

1:54:22 Figures all right second Elizabeth Warren clip. This is oh yeah, this is something that has always annoyed me now I kind of understand for the mark which before you go to the next clip I'm going to ask you whether or not the follow-up question to the woman that was interviewing Warren, which I think was on CNN, what was it from? No, it was the Today Show. It was Guthrie. She came, oh, Guthrie. So as soon as Warren said that, Guthrie immediately said, well, those are the same people that you're calling out for taking over the country that were big supporters of Hillary. And how do you feel about that? Yeah, especially the Jew part. And Guthrie, she did say that, she did ask, right?

1:55:01 Uh, let me think. Yeah, no. Of course not. But then there's this tradition in America. The tradition is you always have to be so, well, I'm not going to tell you if I'm going to run. Let's just keep it a secret. We'll see if I'm going to run. Why is that? Well, there's a couple of reasons for it. What the main reason is because it has to do with the FEC the Federal Elections Committee and when you declare you have to do bookkeeping changes completely Oh, that's that's a good reason. I did not know that yes, but I wish someone would have informed me senator a lot of people saying what this book is about is launching the Presidential campaign of Elizabeth Warren now. It's tradition to be coy about that and she says it's tradition and

1:55:49 Yeah, recently. It would have been better since the FEC came around, which I think is the 70s. I would have appreciated knowing that. Thank you. It's tradition to be coy about that in Washington, but where's your mind about that right now? Are you 50-50, 80-20? 80-20, 75-25, I don't know, 90-10, 98 percent. I don't know. Where do you stand? Are you likely to run? This is, no. This is not what I'm doing. This is my 11th book. My life's work is about what's happening to working families across this country. Okay, but did you say no, not likely to run?

1:56:26 I am running in 2018 for senator from Massachusetts. I am deeply blessed that the people of the Commonwealth sent me to Washington to fight for them and that's what I'll keep on doing. You've been doing a crappy job. People are already printing up those bumper stickers for 2020 that say she was warned, she was given an explanation, nevertheless she persisted. OK. You're not going to get it. Let the transcript reflect silence. Silence. Silence. Well, I'll tell you, this is red meat for the machine because everyone loves it. Oh, yeah. We got another person we could turn against Trump. We hate him. We hate him. Yes. Go Paul Gahantes. Here's Andrea Mitchell's show. Susan, you were in Boston over the weekend at Elizabeth Warren's house interviewing her, one of her first big interviews.

1:57:15 keying up where she stands going into 2020. I asked if she was gonna promise Massachusetts voters that she would serve all six years of her second Senate term and she said, well that's certainly the plan. That is not exactly a denial of interest in the 2020 presidential race. And she's 67 years old. She is plenty young enough compared to Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton to run four years from now. What? Compared to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, she's plenty young enough. She's 67 in 3 years she'll be the same age as Trump and Clinton are. I don't understand. She's saying like... She's plenty young enough. Compared to. She says compared to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

1:57:57 I don't understand. How do you? Yeah, she's just poorly worded. I'm falling over the wrong... And she's 67 years old. She is plenty young enough compared to Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton to run four years from now. Yeah, she is and she's got, of course, a huge base of support among liberals in the Democratic Party who feel like if only she or Bernie Sanders had been nominated last time around, They believe they would have had a better chance of defeating the kind of campaign that Donald Trump ran. Well then why did you screw everybody over and make sure that Hillary was the candidate, huh? She is a prodigious fundraiser. She outraged most other Senate candidates. She's already raised more than $9 million for this Senate re-election. But she told me the more serious reason she chose not to run last time was because she just didn't feel like she had enough experience in government and politics and politics

1:58:46 to be president of the United States and you know if she's a second-term senator maybe she'll she'd feel like she had enough of that kind of experience. Although it certainly didn't hold back Barack Obama when he was a first-term senator. Or Donald Trump. Or Donald Trump. Whoops, oh yeah, that's right Obama had no experience. And then finally she of course had to do a little stop off at The View. He's done a lot of stuff in 90 days. What has he done right so far? I take that question very seriously because look, obviously I fought hard to try to get Hillary elected. I did not want to see Donald Trump as president. He promised he was going to be out there for working people. And you know, it's not

1:59:31 It's not the what he says, it's not the tweets. I just keep watching what he's actually doing. And so in 90 days he signed off on a law that makes it easier for employers to steal their employees' wages. Oh, hold on. I must have missed this. Where's the new law that we can steal our employees' wages? I think that's great. Yes. But there's more, there's even more crazy. I mean these laws, I can't believe we're in a law, a crazy society. Wages. He's signed off on a law that makes it easier for companies that kill or maim their employees. Now there's a law I can stand behind. There's a, hey, hey, well you're going to work for us or you're going to get killed. Or maimed.

2:00:16 to keep it hidden. He signed off to make it easier for investment advisors to cheat pensioners and retirees. Vote for Pocahontas. I don't want any of this taking place. Stealing, killing me. No, no, no. These laws are maiming. Maiming? Don't maim me. Trumpcare was like the whole thing in one microcosm. when he said, hey, I'm all in for a plan to knock 24 million people off their health care coverage, raise the cost for a lot of middle class families so that we can produce a tax cut for a handful of millionaires and billionaires. Ah, she missed the bankers. Damn, you should have thrown in some Jews. Families, so that we can produce a tax cut for a handful of millionaires and billionaires.

2:01:11 I wish he were out there working for middle class families. I really do. For working families, for the working poor. But what he's doing is delivering one gut punch after another. One gut punch after another. He has laws to kill and maim their employees. Well, I'm happy. Let's start with Uber. One gut punch. Unbelievable. We got to take a break, John. Well before we do I wanted to do the O'Reilly material ah yes, let's do the O'Reilly I think I can't plan anything you mean I'm telling you we needed to take a break Yeah, okay. You don't have to tell me what you're gonna. Do we already discussed that previously yeah? I know it's like we did do people have to realize that this show is so ad-libbed We never do talented performance artists. Yes

2:02:03 Yeah, anytime we try to really organize it, it usually fails. But we... I gave you the perfect setup. We have to take a break. And that's when you just say, well, I got it. Yeah, I did that. Why did you do that? That's the other thing we do. We reveal too much. Yes. So let's go to the... O'Reilly got fired, which is what we predicted on this show. We mentioned at the beginning of the show. He got fired and he... We also predicted that Tucker would take his place. And Tucker would take over and he did. And, which I think is a mistake because Tucker, as I'll prove probably after this segment, I don't think Tucker's got what it takes. And I have a reason for saying that. Because he interviewed Tammy Bruce and I thought it was a disaster.

2:02:43 Now, let's go to the background here. This is O'Reilly on CBS. This is the CBS rundown. This is the opening salvo. Today, while Bill O'Reilly was enjoying an audience with the Pope, Fox fired the man with the biggest audience in cable television. An embarrassing end to a 20-year run. The Fox News Channel has lost in less than a year the keys to its success. O'Reilly and founding CEO Roger Ailes, both removed after multiple women at Fox complained of serial sexual harassment that was tolerated for years. Late today O'Reilly called the claims against him completely unfounded, though the New York Times has reported that he and Fox paid about 13 million dollars in settlements. Here's Anna Werner.

2:03:31 Caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. The only comment from 21st Century Fox, after a thorough and careful review of the allegations, the company and Bill O'Reilly have agreed that Bill O'Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel. O'Reilly has been out on what he said was a planned vacation since April 11th. The most recent sighting was this picture of him today meeting the Pope in Rome. His ouster follows sexual harassment allegations against the host dating back to 2004. Earlier this month, the New York Times reported five women received quiet payouts from O'Reilly or the company, totaling some $13 million. The president recently spoke out to defend O'Reilly, telling the Times he didn't think Bill did anything wrong and praising him as a good person.

2:04:25 That, of course, goes on again, as I pointed out earlier in the show, that little segment, which goes on further, right there, it brings Trump into it. Somehow Trump's part of the story. Of course, yes, of course. It's beautiful. Which is really chicken shit, and that's what CBS does constantly. But let's go to the official goodbye from Fox itself. And this is Dana, this is Perino, who's taking over the O'Reilly Show temporarily while he's on vacation, which is the best way to fire people, by the way. You know, they go on vacation, fire them. This happened to me when I was at Tech TV. I got fired while I was on vacation, coincidentally, in Italy.

2:05:07 Yeah, we're fired. Oh, they fired you while you were on vacation. What a douchebag move Yes, oh Hell, it's despicable. Why did they fire you? There was never any reason given xenophobia Ageism so here's the O'Reilly send off and not the ISO because the ISO I got you. I'm smart. Oh Finally tonight, it is the end of an era here at the Fox News Channel. As we mentioned earlier, Bill O'Reilly is leaving this chair and this network after more than 20 years. Bill has been the undisputed king of cable news and for good reason. He is an incredibly talented broadcaster who raised the bar for interviewers everywhere. He has also held his staff to exacting standards in his quest to put the best possible program on the air and they are great.

2:05:56 And you, his audience, responded in record numbers, making The Factor the number one cable news show for more than 16 years. You have also been loyal and we can't tell you how much that means to everyone on The Factor. In a memo to the staff today, Rupert James and Lachlan Murdoch, who run Fox News, described Bill this way, By rating standards, Bill O'Reilly is one of the most accomplished TV personalities in the history of cable news. In fact, his success, by any measure, is indisputable. We wish him the very best. I'm Dana Perino. Thanks for watching us. I'll be here again tomorrow. Have a good night. Sounds like a eulogy. Now, there was a little interesting little compliment in there that was not a compliment.

2:06:40 You know by the Murdochs. Yeah, and that's the ISO listen to it carefully by rating standards Bill O'Reilly is one of the most accomplished TV personalities in the history of cable news Yeah, so he has great ratings even though he's a douchebag By rating standards, he's really good. I heard that this was possibly a lot of this had to do with the proposed Murdoch purchase of Sky TV that this was going to become an issue because the regulators need to approve it? Well, the issue, okay, my thesis is just one simple thing, but I want to get at least play a couple of these clips of some of the women who complained. Now, the one I have here is this is Kirsten Powers and Kirsten Powers

2:07:33 is a Democrat that was always on, she was on the O'Reilly show every now and again. She came back after a while. And she had a huge complaint, an unbelievable complaint that she blew out. And this is the clip of her complaining about it with your buddy... Tucker? No, on CNN. Don LeMun. No, it's back... Male or female? Anderson. So Anderson, and Anderson's there always so, oh, he did that, oh, he did that, oh, he did that. And so let's listen to this woman's, this is an example of the kind of sexual harassment that was, I'm sure, you know, we knew the guy was a douchebag in a lot of different ways. But this kind of complaining, I have a thesis about it. Obviously, you used to work at Fox as a political analyst. You were on O'Reilly's program all the time. I wonder what your reaction is to today's announcement.

2:08:30 Well, I mean, I think that it's a thing because Bill O'Reilly was Fox News. He had so much power there and it was sort of unthinkable that he would ever leave there except on his own terms. And I did his show regularly for a long time and you know, I was thinking about an incident that had happened early on in my career there where I was on air actually with Margaret Hoover, who is at CNN now, on a regular segment. We were on every Monday and he got Margaret's name wrong and Margaret said, hey, get my name right. I'm sorry there's a lot of blondes in this operation. I can't keep you all straight. Megyn Kelly is coming up, starts throwing all these blonde names. And then at the end of the segment says, thank you for your blondness to both of us. So I went to his executive producer and I said he needs to apologize and he needs to never do that again. I'm not doing the show anymore. And I was told basically, well, you know Bill, there's nothing we can do about it. He's a throwback. He's kind of an Archie Bunker.

2:09:23 And I said, well, if you mean he's in Neanderthal, then we're on the same page. He can never do that again. I'm a political analyst here. Went to Bill, came back, said no, he's not going to apologize. So then I went to my boss. I was called into my boss's office. I was told. What can we do? It's Bill. There's nothing we can do. You know, we're sorry this happened to you, but there's nothing we can do. I complained to Roger Ailes. I was told the same exact thing. There's nothing we can do. It's Bill. He's a jerk. Nobody likes him. And then Roger said, you know, Bill, he likes to put up dirty pictures and ask pretty girls to talk about them. And so the whole thing was sort of Bill, oh and then he said, you know, and you know, what am I gonna do? I don't like him, but he makes so much money there's nothing I can do. That was the culture. Wait a minute, who was it who said that? Roger Ailes. And so this was the culture which was Bill was, you know, just too big and so that there was nothing you could do about it. So I did quit his show and I didn't do it for two or three years. This was an election year. This is the biggest show at Fox. And then about three years later I went back and I said, look I'm willing to give this another try.

2:10:23 And he said, sure, and I came on the show. And I never had another problem. We actually ended up having quite a good relationship. But it just spoke volumes that I had to completely handle it on my own, that there was nobody that was willing to even say anything to him. Just to basically say you can't treat one of our political analysts this way. Welcome to show business. Now here's what the thing was. Thank you for your blond-ness. That was the reason that she's all bent out of shape. Yeah, because that apparently means you're dumb. I guess. Yeah. It's not gender specific. I've been called a dumb blonde my whole life. Yes. So it's not specifically about women, but... No, it's not. But it's bigoted to be anti-blonde, I guess. And does she bleach her hair? I think so. Just asking. For a friend. I think she does.

2:11:18 And if that's the case, then you bring it on yourself. Man, compared to what goes on at every single time... And I want to say that MSNBC... I was moving the Airstream yesterday. I was listening in the car. MSNBC, CNN, they're all over this story. People in glass houses, be very careful. Be very, very careful. Another shoe will drop somewhere and it won't be at Fox. It's show business. This is what it is. Television. We mimic television producers all the time. It's no different. Yes, we do. It's part of our gags. Let's see what she says in part two. And then about three years later I went back and I said, look, I'm willing to give this another try. And he said, sure. And I came on the show. And I never had another problem. We actually ended up having

2:12:05 It's quite a good relationship. But it just spoke volumes that I had to completely handle it on my own, that there was nobody that was willing to even say anything to him. Just to basically say you can't treat one of our political analysts this way. It is. I mean, it's like crap. It's so horrible. Blondness, your blondness. Horrible, horrible. This way. It is. I mean, it's. Having obviously not worked at Fox and I've only worked at basically, you know channel on ABC News and CNN and CIA I cannot imagine working in an environment where that was tolerated were any of this allegations were tolerated not only by O'Reilly but by Roger where someone called you. Thank you for your blondness can't can't believe that oh my goodness. That's unbelievable. I mean the guy was running the place. I

2:12:52 Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's right. And I will say, you know, for myself, I sort of look back on it and think, you know, why? I mean, I did quit a show, but I still did keep on working there. And I have to say that to a certain extent, I'm, you know, my generation of women kind of grew up always kind of dealing with sexual harassment. It's not the first place. That's not sexual harassment, but sort of sexual discrimination, I guess. I mean, I was never hit on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. She was never hit on? What woman admits that? Discrimination I guess. I mean I was never hit on. You're right, it's very funny. Not that funny but it's true. I was never hit on. But I think I have dealt with this kind of stuff so much that to a certain extent you just learn to tolerate it. And this is true. I gotta say, I gotta stick up for the women here. This is absolutely true. Women get

2:13:45 Get and now you could if you want to call harassment then it's harassment to you But this does happen all you know where the with a worst harassment takes place where people just stalk women LinkedIn yeah, LinkedIn is a is a sexual predator. You think it's a pickup place. Yeah Expect that this is going to be part of your job and because it wasn't something this was an isolated incident for me You know you just learned to live with it, and that's not okay And so that's why I think it's really important to give a lot of thought credit to Gretchen Carlson for coming out and really being the person who started this conversation. I mean, the only reason I'm really telling this story, I think, is because Gretchen came out and took on Fox News. You know, a lot of women just don't talk about these things because if you make too much trouble, your career is over. Or at least that's the way it used to be. And clearly from what Roger Ailes was saying to you, I mean, you knew about it and just kind of

2:14:40 didn't care, threw up his hands. Yeah, it was really... It's not that big a deal. What are we gonna do? He's the most powerful person here. What are we gonna do? He said blondness. The channel and... And then she makes a federal case out of it. You can stop that clip. Well, she makes a federal case out of him calling saying thank you for your blondness. Well, it's part of a larger issue that is definitely at the forefront of all these conversations. It delves into everything we've talked about on this show. Without a doubt, women have always been approached in a way by men that today certainly is seen as hostile and rude and anti-women and just horrible, horrible, horrible. I am blaming this on... But notice no one wants to hit on her anymore because she's that way. This is a group of women and when she mentioned Gretchen, I thought about this.

2:15:34 How old do you think that this Kirsten is? They're all the same age, all these women that are making it. 45. 50. They're all 50. Gretchen's 50. This woman's 50. They're all 50 at Fox. And they all look good, but they're 50. Wow. And I checked it out. This woman, Gretchen in particular, she's the leader. Gretchen was born in 66. I know these women because when I was at PC Computing, they were the saleswomen, these exact same women. And they almost got Paul Summerson fired for putting a girl in a bikini by the pool with a computer next to her on the cover of the magazine. It had to be pulled.

2:16:16 And the same thing happened to Computer Shopper where the cover got, I think the cover got on but it was a different group of women. It wasn't these women. I know what's going on then. These women are born in 66. Let me give you a couple little background on it. If you look at the Chinese Zodiac, all these women are from the year of the fire horse. And if you read any of it, they're all a bunch of troublemakers. The next year is, which is 67, which is where this Kirsten's from. She's a year younger. That's the fire sheep. Oh no. They're the ones who just follow. They just follow whatever these other women tell them to do. The troublemakers that were born in 66. And I don't know what it was, what they were told or how they were told it, but I've had trouble with these women all my life. I just avoid them. Wow.

2:17:07 Huh, that's the first time I've ever heard that. There you go. And the real kicker though, the one that really brought it is because of media matters going after. We'll play this last clip. This is the O'Reilly backup clip. What changed the minds of the Murdoch family? They are the owners of Fox News. Well, we wrote our story two and a half weeks ago where we said that Mr. O'Reilly had settled harassment cases with five women, including two in the past year since Roger Ailes had left the network. And at the time of our story, the Murdoch family was really standing by Mr. O'Reilly. They looked like they wanted to keep him on. But what happened was that he began to lose advertisers. First, he lost Mercedes-Benz, the first one to go, and then dozens and dozens of companies went up to about 50. And what you had was an eight o'clock hour at the prime time

2:18:01 on the network that it had just a few ads running on it. Okay, got it. Your conclusion, Professor Dvorak? They would have kept him on forever, but the advertisers, starting with Mercedes Benz, said we're not going to spend any money during this hour as long as he's with the network, and I'm sure that they reflected it with all their ad buys, and that was the end of him. So this is a very coy way, this is yet another way, to ruin someone by just claiming something and we heard it was, you know, calling dumb blondness. But once you do that, everyone is never said the word dummy, just said the one this everything is so politically correct that advertisers immediately lift their heels. Well, once they're pressured,

2:18:49 Man, but people that didn't like O'Reilly's message. I'm happy that we have our own system Was a little too long by the way that segment yeah, sorry it was 18 minutes a little long whoa Jim Bennett we do have a few people to thank Yeah, it was a long road to Tipperary. I could have tightened it. Jim Bennett and Toronto, Ontario 175 and his comment is fish. It's just the answer to everything. Fish. Yeah.

2:19:34 Charles Brochetti in Korea, Incheon, 12420. Give us a boots on the ground report. Yeah, 17420. He probably has some pretty good, I'm sure that would be cool to listen to the kind of gossip going around. Our buddy there in Tennessee, Sir Patrick Coble, 14280. Always here for us, love that guy. He's going to come out to the train museum, which we were supposed to talk about. Yeah, let's forget that again. Josh Mandel, 12345, donation note sent. I don't have it in front of me, sorry Josh.

2:20:13 But I'll read it again, and if it's important to the show, we'll read it on the show, next show. Justin Barber, 12345, I'd like that donation. Jonathan, what is it, Sirska? I'm getting my reading glasses out to read that small print. Yeah, Sirsky in Winnipeg, 10111. I'm just seeing that Sir Patrick Coble becomes baron. Did I see that right? Birthday birthday donation my wife Sarah get her we'll get her Dame hood finally she only gets it. I think Yes, we have that her birthday is 420

2:20:55 Okay, but we've known each other more than half our lives and she puts up with me has been my rock with my new business ventures over the past couple of months. I'm good. I love her with all my heart. Hope she has a great birthday today. I ordered my new sterling night ring. Oh, yes. And the day the email came out and I had to pick my protector during the order process so I went with the Baron of Tennessee. So he is the Baron. Okay, I'll put that in. Somehow that got missed. Oh, that's odd. Jonathan Desersky in Winnipeg, 10111. Joe Salishower, Salishower, Salishower, something like that. Very odd name. $100 from Shaker Heights, Ohio, S-A-L-A.

2:21:41 H-S-H-O-U-R. He does have a douchebag callout for Dougie Fresh. Douchebag! And Clay Bassavice. Douchebag! Something like that. He has a belated callout for Dougie Fresh whose birthday was April 7th. If possible, is he on the list? Can you throw him on there? Oh god. We have a back office that doesn't function! You know, I guess it's too much reading. Yeah, it's too much reading and I'm continuously doing other stuff by writing down stuff. This makes me mad. Yeah, apparently. Call him up and bitch. Okay, Sven Middelkoop in Delftgaal, Netherlands. Delftgaal. Now, this is incorrect spelling. Delftgaal. Okay.

2:22:33 Okay, well I just pronounced what was there. 84 bucks, that's what came through on PayPal. Thomas Four, 84 bucks from Houston. These are double 42 donations for the people out there who are promoting the use of marijuana. Dame Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, 84. Joe Blazek, $84, parts unknown. Raddo... Raddu. Raddu, per two. Is it per two? Raddu per two? Pertuck, I think, I don't know. Raddu, pertuck. Pertuck. Michelle Winton in Bartlett, Tennessee. Well, she's all boob. That's boob. She's a boob. Okay. She got in in his boobs. We only had one, two, three, four, four of the other ones. Five. Michelle went and caught the boob, which is at the top of the page on the last newsletter. Yeah. And she actually, uh, she said she caught it from the last time because the newsletter subject line made me laugh out loud, but more importantly, it was the one before this one, the 420 baby.

2:23:34 Yeah, it's a lot of 420 babies. That's what I find that fascinating. Hitler. Hitler. Gerald Preston, 8008. Les Smith, 8008. Andy Kluber in Terre Haute, Indiana, 8008. Trey Whitmore in Toronto. Troy Whitmore. Troy Whitmore in Toronto, Ontario. There's nobody's name, Trey. Yeah, there's totally someone named Trey. Totally. One of Madonna's backup singers. Now out of the blue, for reasons unknown, Evan Black is in here with $160.16. Is he the one who did the two donations first time donated to de-douching? I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe. Sir Rick in Arlington. Well, you didn't give him a de-douching. You've been de-douched. You don't have to ask me, just do it. Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington. Jeffrey Stackroth.

2:24:30 69-69 Arlington, Sir Rick was 69-96, 69-69. And then Sir Brian Navarro in Los Angeles, California. 65, we got some relationship karma for Jeffrey Stock, Jeffrey at the end of the segment. Kimberly Davis, 56-56. Sir Rob of the dude's name Ben, 55-10. Dean Roker, no relation, 55-10. Sherry Lawry in Victoria Australia 5432. She has an F cancer so I'll put that in at the end. Okay. Christopher Tropp 5420.

2:25:11 Thomas Gruska in West Seneca, New York, 5133. David...or David. Andrew...where did I get David from? Andrew Benz in St. Louis, Missouri, 5005. And the following people are $50 donors. Name and location if we can find the location. Jason Clegg does have one. He's in San Diego, California. Kevin Porter does not. Paul Rudkin does not. Joel Darun. I think I can almost remember where he's from. Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland. Randall Curry. In Texas. In relation? Yeah. North Richland Hills. I'll bet you he's also black. Longtime boner. First time donor. Been following the two of you for many years. From staying up late to watch Adam on Headbangers Ball. Or reading John's column. Thank you for all the hard work you do. He doesn't say. Thank you. Are you black, Randy? I want to know.

2:26:06 Yeah, you have this theory that everyone named Curry is black. For sure. Not everybody, obviously. Camp Curry in Yosemite, was that done by blacks? They, you know what happened is it got closed down. They sold it. It's no longer Camp Curry. They sold everything. I know, isn't that disgusting? Douchebags. It's tradition. Israel Kizaris, $50. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, $50. Bill Leclerc, capital L, small a, in Riverside, Michigan. Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Jonathan Kelly in Bangor,

2:26:43 Somewhere in the UK somewhere. He says time to stop being the douchebag I've let myself become I will donate more when I get work again and can afford a larger credit You've provided me with an outstanding product over the last well nearly a decade and I need to stop being such a douche Please yeah deduce me You've been deduced. Yes, I will provide you with some jobs karma for your final interview for a job in Sleaford England on the 12th of May He says, I've also reinstated an old $5 a month subscription addition to this donation. Like to call up my brother Andrew Kelly as a douchebag. Douchebag! Died him in the mouth many years ago and he's never contributed to the show. Your move, Andrew.

2:27:23 And there you have it. It's Northern Ireland, a banger. And finally, Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina. And last but not least, Sir, I think it's Sir Benjamin Wilson in Hummlestown, Pennsylvania, 50. And that is... Would you mind, just because only a few people did the 40, 42, 420 dimes, let's just give their names. No. No? Right, the first one says donating 42 for reasons of anonymity. Ah, okay, gotcha. I didn't realize. And that's only, you know, that's already at the top, so the rules are rules. Okay, no, you're right. I stand corrected. Won't do it. Well, a good showing. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.

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2:30:03 Which he's having in Alexandria, Virginia. In the hospital there is an outpatient procedure. Friday 10 a.m. So we're gonna give him some karma for that. Extra karma for our knights. Always want to do that. You've got karma. Yes, we have a number of title changes today. Some good ones. We got Sir Baz Von Batol becomes Sir Baz, Baron of Svalbard. Sir Josh Mandel becomes Baronet. Sir Joe Blazek, Baronet as well. Rob the Knight of the Desert Sprawl, Baronet. And Sir Patrick Colwell becomes a Baron, and he will be the Baron of Tennessee. Blade time, Blade time, Dvorak, Blade time. I got it. All right, thank you.

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2:31:24 Pablum and, well, we got some bong hits and bourbon for today's 420 episode. So, thank you all very much for your support. And remember when you get your rings, tweet it out. Tweet it out, tweet it out. We love seeing that. And again, thank you for supporting us in a way that won't let us be taken down that easily. The only way we'll be taken down is Whether you don't like us anymore or death, death could take us now. That could... No, lack of support will happen first. Before death? I think so. Okie dokie. I got a thing, I got a thing I discovered. All right. I want you to, I want people out there to test this, check this out. I was, my nose was running, I was in the kitchen. I grabbed a Kleenex, but instead of holding it with my right hand, which I usually do when I blow my nose,

2:32:16 like that, I held it with my left hand. And I couldn't blow my nose. I realized that I just couldn't do it. I was just like, there was something, I can't blow my nose. I can only do it with the left hand. Huh. That's interesting. I rarely do it with my left hand. If I try doing it with my right hand, it's just, I can't blow or something. I don't find it satisfying with my left hand at all. You're talking about blowing your nose, right? Yeah. Hello everybody. There we go. Took you long enough. Took me long enough? It's the first time I heard it. J.K. Rowling. This is what took me long enough. That. J.K. Rowling, the Harry Potter author, tweeting, tweeting in protection of Bonna. She's a huge Trump hater.

2:33:09 Well, here's what's interesting. So you recall this was the tweet that now there was one tweet that was fake that I read on the show and we debunked that in real time. That was the I just want war to stop F-35 is my best multi role fighter to make sure peace is cured. I pray for Mr. Donald Trump to buy more. So JK Rowling comes out, this tweet is fake and part of an ongoing attempt to smear and discredit seven-year-old Syrian refugee al-Banna Banna and al-Abed Banna and her family. Oh, this is funny. This is right up your alley. This is your beat. What she doesn't mention is that she is on the same imprint as Banna now or now actually has the same literary agent.

2:33:49 Yeah, Bona has a literary agent. She's on the website right there next to JK Rowling brother. You know her bio says I'm waiting fish Wake up oh boy. Hey North Korea. Hey. Hey North. Hey North Korea I got some North Korea clips if you're interested. Yeah, okay, let us start with Okay, this is MSNBC. They are very angry. On the one hand, Brian, when you have a dangerous standoff with a nuclear-armed adversary, of course you would like to think that within our government we have stability, methodical planning, every step is very calculated, and I'm not sure we can be certain that that's happening in this administration right now. But I also would suggest that as people watch the way this unfolds,

2:34:50 They think about the possibility that Trump is actually trying to use this to his advantage in a way that could be very dangerous, I should add. But that I definitely see that as part of the strategy here, to kind of psych the North Koreans out, to try to dislodge the status quo by suggesting we're just crazy enough to do the thing that George W. Bush or Barack Obama would never do. I just don't think it has a high po- probability of working but I do think that's part of what's happening here. And Nicole, can I just jump in here and say the hallmark of military capability is discipline, it's uniformity, it's why the military wears uniforms and people who come into the military on their very first day learn to salute. It's because they have respect for the chain of command and if at the top of the chain of command there is someone who's erratic, undisciplined, unpredictable

2:35:37 it causes the whole chain of command to disintegrate. And then you find that your military capability is actually lost. So I think this is a major strategic disadvantage for the United States of America. I would just jump in and say that I think he's passed the madman test with flying colors. I think the actual test that he's facing right now is whether he can sit atop that chain of command and command the respect not just of his own military and his own deputies who respect that sort of order, but of the world. And the world is is watching how he faces this first test. Yeah, all that she forgot this week. I've heard a number of these very similar clips. I almost had one on today's show. And as they go back and forth, it's almost as though they're doing it on purpose. They're trying to confuse Kim Jong-un with Trump.

2:36:26 No, not trying to confuse people to make them think that way. They're trying to conflate it. He's a madman at the top of the chain of command. He's a madman. He's nuts. Very, very good observation. Very good. I don't even know if they're doing that on purpose, but it's... I think they are doing it on purpose. I can't say that just somebody directing it, but it's just coming out on purpose. And it's not like you played the first clip I've ever heard this. I've been hearing a lot of this where they... The same descriptors. Maybe that's what it is. You use the same descriptors with Kim Jong-un with Trump. He's mad, he's nuts, he's off the rail, he's unhinged. Crazy, crazy. And they used unhinged with Kim Jong-un, that would have been the clip I had. Excellent point. Now, of course, this Trump is crazy, madman, he's mentally ill. We've been hearing that for a long time. We know that because of the Goldwater rule,

2:37:19 This is something that cannot be discussed by... Supposedly. Supposedly. Well, now I... Bless you. Excuse me. You know, during that past clip, I actually tried blowing my nose with my left hand because I have allergies and stuff. Yeah? Yeah, now on my shirt. That's the problem with left. You can't control the flow. No, that's the problem with... No. I can blow my nose with my left hand, but my right hand, I have trouble with it. Oh, okay. Well, I have trouble with my left hand. Anyway, just whatever you used to. Jay Rosen was at, now Jay Rosen is he professor at NYU I think? Yeah, he's an NYU journalism professor. Oh yeah, those who can't do teach, is that the idea? You said it. So the title of his session was the Trump regime and the American press. And guess who was there to ask a question? Our very own Dame Tanya.

2:38:13 Oh, and here's her question. Jay, you had brought up the issue that journalists are reluctant to either explore or report on any sort of like narcissistic psychological issue with Donald Trump. And I was curious as to whether you had thought, and I never heard of this term before I heard it on the No Agenda podcast. Damn Tanya, come on down. Of this term before I heard it on the No Agenda podcast. He flinched when she said that. I'm sure he did. He went, oh, fuck this Dvorak. But could it possibly be related to the Goldwater rule? I mean, obviously, journalists are not psychiatrists, but do you think that's a factor? So he goes into three minutes of explaining that, which I don't think we want to listen to. No.

2:39:13 But it's in the show notes, the full clip. Yes. At 922 dot no agenda notes dot com. OK, back to North Korea. This was at the United Nations. North Korea's deputy ambassador spoke a little hard. You got to tune into him. But he's actually his English. His English is not that bad. Wow. That was a microaggression. But you do have to tune into what he's saying. The United States introduced in South Korea The Korean peninsula, the world's biggest hotspot, the huge nuclear strategic asset, seriously threatening the peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to bring off war.

2:38:13 Oh, and here's her question. Jay, you had brought up the issue that journalists are reluctant to either explore or report on any sort of like narcissistic psychological issue with Donald Trump. And I was curious as to whether you had thought, and I never heard of this term before I heard it on the No Agenda podcast. Damn Tanya, come on down. Of this term before I heard it on the No Agenda podcast. He flinched when she said that. I'm sure he did. He went, oh, fuck this Dvorak. But could it possibly be related to the Goldwater rule? I mean, obviously, journalists are not psychiatrists, but do you think that's a factor? So he goes into three minutes of explaining that, which I don't think we want to listen to. No.

2:39:13 But it's in the show notes, the full clip. Yes. At 922 dot no agenda notes dot com. OK, back to North Korea. This was at the United Nations. North Korea's deputy ambassador spoke a little hard. You got to tune into him. But he's actually his English. His English is not that bad. Wow. That was a microaggression. But you do have to tune into what he's saying. The United States introduced in South Korea The Korean peninsula, the world's biggest hotspot, the huge nuclear strategic asset, seriously threatening the peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to bring off war.

2:39:56 It has been created a dangerous situation in which the thermonuclear war may break out at any moment. Oh, Johnny, you hear what he says? Thermonuclear war could break out at any moment. That's what he said, but is this the guy from South Korea or North Korea? North Korea. The North Korean UN ambassador, deputy ambassador. Huh, because it seems the way he's positioning his complaint from a South Korean perspective. South Korea hasn't got any nuclear bombs. No, that's why he's saying, I think he's threatening. He's saying, hey, you better stop because this could end up in a thermonuclear war. Okay, I just thought earlier phrasing was, just didn't confuse me, but keep playing. The United Nations. Oops. It has been created a dangerous situation in which the thermonuclear war may break out at any moment.

2:40:51 on the peninsula and pose a serious threat to the world peace and security to say nothing of those of the narcissist Asia. Very, very... I think it's pretty threatening what he's saying. Now, of course, we all want to know what the president's really thinking about. Vice President is in Asia doing a four stop tour and he said basically the US is running out of patience. Clearly a message to North Korea. You have a Navy fleet that has sent into the Sea of Japan right now. Have you ruled out a military strike? I don't want to telegraph what I'm doing or what I'm thinking. I'm not like other administrations where they say we're going to do this in four weeks and that doesn't work that way. We'll see what happens. I hope things work out well. I hope there's going to be peace. But you know, they've been talking with this gentleman for a long time. You read Clinton's book. He said, oh, we made such a great peace deal and it was a joke. You look at different things over the years with President Obama. Everybody has been outplayed. They've all been outplayed by this gentleman. And we'll see what happens. But I just don't telegraph my moves.

2:41:51 Two interesting things. One is he doesn't telegraph his moves. I like that. We've never heard of, I haven't in my lifetime, I've not heard a president do that. Say, you know, I'm not going to tell you. It's always been, yeah, we're going to drop some boots on the ground. We're going to do this. We can do that. Yeah. I got to tell you. And he kept saying this gentleman, that was interesting. Oh, that's an interesting catch. This gentleman. He does that because he wants some respect in some kind of negotiation is my feeling. You might be right. I never, I did not catch that. Finally, on the bands, I picked up a North Korean number station. How do you know it's from North Korea? They don't give you anything. This is well known in ham circles. This is the, it's called the parrot, this number station. Oh, and someone in the war room said, why does Adam always say niner instead of nine? That is because we are both ham radio operators. We are licensed amateur radio professionals.

2:42:47 How about that for a term? That's good. Amateur radio professionals. Save the world. Save the world. Oh yeah, we definitely got it. The hams will always save the world. And this is one of these things that people don't really know the background of who are new to the program. This was many years ago. John said, hey, this was private actually. He sent me an email and said, hey, there's these really cheap walkie talkies on Amazon, 35 bucks. Just pick up two. They're great for the Armageddon. Cause yeah, of course John's a prepper. And it was a it was a who was a your musician friend who told you that the who is it? What's his name? No, yeah, come on with the six string with the five string. This is a seven. Oh, yeah the Roger McGuinn McGuinn seven. Yes seven string Roger McGuinn

2:43:34 And of course, you created a beast. He's a borderline prepper. So we both got the technician's license, which is anyone can get this. Anybody should get it. And so should you. Just memorize the questions and the answers are published. It's just the answers are multiple choice and they're out of order. So you don't even have to learn anything. Of course, I went on to get my general. And I'm badass in that regard. Oh, yeah, you just told I believe we get an extra and I'll be impressed now here We have ham radio guys ham radio is the public service network of last resort When the apocalypse comes where the guys who are gonna save the world right right exactly

2:44:15 So let's have a listen to the numbers station. The numbers station is not just doing numbers. The numbers... and this is just a small snippet of course. The number station is really excited. For those of you who want to listen to the parrot, 3266.9 kilohertz. 3266.9 kilohertz. So she's all worked up like that crazy woman who does the announcing on the TV.

2:45:03 Yeah, it's similar. Yeah, maybe it could be the same woman for all I know. Speaking of the apocalypse, things not so great in Portland and I see this happen when we were with Grand Duke David Foley right near his office the exact same thing. It's these zombie trailers. It is a graveyard for abandoned RVs. A street in North Portland has turned into a dump site for these so-called zombie trailers. Neighbors say that they are crowding the road so much drivers can only get down the street by taking turns having to go one at a time. This makeshift RV graveyard is taking over North Columbia Court. You're looking at a

2:45:45 semi trailer to semi trailers actually that are back to back. They've been here for about six months now with people living in them and as you can see it's pretty messy and it's getting pretty cramped too. Thanks to all of these abandoned RVs mostly filled with trash. The tow yards from what I'm hearing are just completely full of these things. We don't take motorhomes to break down because they are way too expensive to break them down. We spotted a few tow warnings from the city stating that the trailers need to be removed from the public right of way. Some even dated from a few days ago. But Stark says as soon as a spot opens up, another RV mysteriously shows up. Now this is this is really a problem. These uh then these RVs, the RVs that they're showing is just you know the formaldehyde boxes is completely crap.

2:46:36 But they're very difficult to get rid of and the city won't even tow them anywhere. No one's saying, yeah, I'll take your crappy RV, put it in my junkyard. They're too big. There's no salvageable parts. So I think this will follow on the small house movement will be people living in discarded RVs. And this kind of reminds me, you know, Tina... It makes nothing but sense to me that it's around the Portland area. Because the Portland's broke. Oh, yeah, well Tina the keeper and I or to keep the streets cleaned Tina the keeper and I are moving in together and beginning of May and we can't we can't afford a three-bedroom house could be one is she's got two kids I got a kid you know they come and visit we don't have a proper guest bedroom and not have them sleeping underneath my wires which is pretty much what everyone had to do when they visit getting after Yeah

2:47:25 So I said, well, here's what we do. I'll put the Airstream at a RV. There's a beautiful RV park just 10 minutes away on I-35. And it's really, it's fantastic. It's very famous and very quiet because you're way at the end. So I got a monthly spot. And then, you know, we have a visitor then instead of, you know, sitting in the guest bedroom closet, which is where the studio will be, which is quite sizable, that closet. It's not nice when someone's in there. So I'll do it in the Airstream of Consciousness. So I took it over there last night, got there around 7.30. And my spot is right across from two amazing dudes. The first one is Mike. He comes up. Hey, hey, can I help you? All right, come on, I'll help you back up. Mike's a retired Chicago fireman, 20 years on the- Help you back up. Yeah. And then his buddy comes over and his buddy Rusty. Rusty's a Vietnam vet and he's strapped. He's walking around open carry. He's a great, I can't wait. I'm going to have stories from these guys. Hey, I'm Rusty. And I'm packing, I got heat.

2:48:25 Very, very, very cool. Well, they'll keep an eye on the place. That's the whole point. That's exactly it. Nice guys. Nice guys. I'm sure they'll have stories for me. Well, maybe they'll be listening to the show. Yeah, I don't think so. All right, what else you got? You don't know. Jean-Claude, we're- I got a couple of things. First of all, let's get back to CBS. And they apparently, of course, they'd be the ones to do this story. because none of the other networks are so closely intertwined with the CIA, but here they are. They're breaking the story about the traitor they're all after now.

2:49:03 Thank you. Now CBS News has learned tonight that a manhunt is underway for a traitor inside the Central Intelligence Agency. The CIA and the FBI are conducting a joint investigation into one of the worst security breaches in CIA history, which exposed thousands of top-secret documents. Jeff Pagais is breaking this story tonight. The security breach involves the theft of CIA documents and hacking tools used to penetrate smartphones, smart televisions, and computer systems. Sources familiar with the investigation say it is looking for an insider.

2:49:43 either a CIA employee or a contractor who had physical access to the material. The agency has not publicly said when the material was taken or how it was stolen. Much of the material was classified and stored in a highly secure section of the intelligence agency. Still, sources say hundreds of people were would have had access to the material and investigators are going through those names. The trove was published in March by the anti-secrecy organization WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile. intelligence service. Just last week in his first public comments as director of the CIA Mike Pompeo railed against WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange. It's time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. WikiLeaks says it obtained the CIA information from former

2:50:39 contractors who worked for US intelligence. To this day, the CIA has not commented on the authenticity of the WikiLeaks disclosures or on the status of the investigation. The CIA director Pompeo has pledged fundamental change in how the CIA strengthens and secures internal systems. Scott, officially both the agency and the FBI had no comment on the authenticity of the purported documents or or the status of the investigation. Jeff Pagay is breaking the story for us tonight. Jeff, thank you. Wow. I know who the spy is. Okay. The Guardian has confirmed it. It's Brennan. It's Brennan.

2:51:24 Well, yeah, Brennan, this, the Guardian has a really amazing article. I haven't seen this. Yeah, it's a, it says British spies were first to spot Trump's team, Trump team's links with Russia, which is what was denied by everyone. I can see this article. This is a very good article. Yes. Yeah. And what happened is that, uh, GCHQ noticed some stuff going on and it was all, and according to the article, all at the director level, So that was all discussed with Brennan. I have some quotes. Guardian says here, British spy head Robert Hannigan, quote, passed material in the summer of 2016 to the CIA chief John Brennan to ensure that these flaky tips leaked out, Brennan disseminated them on Capitol Hill. Then he did that first to the, he gave the Gang of Eight a briefing.

2:52:11 You have to kind of read the article a couple of times, but I think, you know, they even had like Hillary for president mugs all over his office. They didn't even hide it. And of course, Brennan is really a bad guy. And he's a Muslim. He is. Yeah. Which is not a problem, but you know, it is in this, in the context of this. And, you know, and so I think he might've also propagated Islamophobia with the, with the, and with the immigration ban, all this stuff. Brennan is not a good guy. No. I'm thinking he might have. Now I gotta tell you, our new DHS, Department of Homeland Security Chief, John Kelly, I already don't like the guy. Yeah, I'm not liking a lot of these people. Check this one out. Now about terrorism. The TCOs have a devastating effect on our homeland.

2:53:06 Yet the TCO is terrorists something organization. Another aspect of the threat of course is terrorism. For a brief moment after the 9-11 attacks we all came together as a country and stood shoulder to shoulder against this horrible, horrible threat to our way of life. But the years have passed, we've grown somewhat accustomed to it and now question all the security, all of the issues that we have put in place to secure the nation. Because it's a little bit of an inconvenience at an airport, a little bit of an inconvenience as you pass onto an airplane. The threat to our nation, our American way of life has not diminished. In fact, the threat has metastasized and decentralized. The metastasized meme.

2:53:57 I hate that. It's a cancer term. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like they use it all the time. He's just picking up on it. Come on, man. Come on, you're new. Do something new. And the risk is threatening us today in a way that is worse than we experienced 16 years ago in 9-11. Be afraid. As I speak these words, the FBI has open terrorism investigations in all of our 50 states. Oh, that's a meme. What? That's the meme, the old meme. Of course it is. You know what it is? To me, it says, beware citizens, we're everywhere. That's what it says to me. I think it was Mueller, I think, is the one who first threw that one out. Yeah, another meme. Open terrorism investigations in all of our 50 states.

2:54:41 And since 2013, there have been 37 ISIS-linked plots to attack our country. This is all bad news. Understatement of the year. ISIS-linked plots to attack our country. This is all bad news. Bad news. But it gets worse. Oh! Experts estimate that perhaps 10,000 citizens of Europe have joined the caliphate fight in Syria and in Iraq. Thousands more from nations in Asia, Africa, the Western Hemisphere have also joined that fight. They have learned how to make IEDs, employ drones to drop ordnance, and acquired experience on the battlefield. When did that happen? By all reports, they are beginning to increasingly bring home. When did that happen? When did what happen? When were drones dropping ordnance?

2:55:34 This guy is full of crap. He's totally full of crap. Well, I'd like to know where the drones are dropping ordinance. All I can see is a drone dropping a bomb. By all reports, they are beginning to increasingly bring home. And as the coalition we lead wins against what are best described as conventional terrorist formations in the caliphate, the expectations that many of these holy warriors will survive come back to their home countries where they will wreak murderous havoc in Europe, Asia, the Maghreb, the Caribbean, the United States. What is this guy talking about? Why is he talking at all? And who is he talking to? He's spreading fear about ISIS in America, John. That's what he's saying. Okay, well that's not new.

2:56:16 No, of course it's not new. That's just another nude. What's new is he's new. What did I prep? Yeah, I preface it by don't like him. He's a douchebag. Yeah, I think you made your point, but I do get to play the jingle. Bam. The guys. Yeah, I'm not liking most of the people that I'm seeing. I mean, I think, uh,

2:56:54 I liked a couple of them before they got the new jobs and then it turns out that they're douchebags. So what am I supposed to say? Nothing, I'm just pointing it out. So you want- I got a couple of clips that I can finish with or I can put some stuff off, I can move it. I can talk about the train museum or I can move that to the next show. Okay, talk about the train museum and we'll end it with that happy note. I went to the train museum, I got on a train, the Zephyr. Got on the Zephyr and took it to Sacramento. Now I'm gonna recommend people take this ride just to do it. The train museum is one block from the train station in Sacramento. You get out of the train station, you walk out the front, you look right, boom, there's the train museum. You walk over to it. Next to the train museum, and the train museum's kind of in this area, is Old Sacramento.

2:57:43 which is like a Western set and it's big. There's a lot of stuff going on in there and it's all being used. It's like a real town. It's not like just a Knott's Berry farm or anything. And it's dynamite, really interesting. Anyway, the train museum is unlike any train museum. Train museums to me, as I've been to a lot of them, I've been to bus museums in England, I've been to train museums. Train museums generally speaking are a big area, sometimes enclosed, sometimes not, with a bunch of trains. Just a train here and a train there. That's what I'd expect to see. I would find trains in the train museum. Yes, but this is not like that at all. These things are curated.

2:58:25 And it's absolutely unbelievable. It's three floors of trains, and every one of them is in a setting, and it's got, like, dummies around it that look like real people that are doing stuff on the train. The trains are immaculate. And they're in some...you know, they're going through a tunnel or they're doing something. It's... Did you take any pictures? You must have taken pictures. Yeah, I took a bunch of pictures. I'll put them in the next newsletter. Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah. Sign up. It's absolutely unbelievable. I mean, I've never, I was stunned by this train museum. It's just, it's like nothing you've ever seen. And they have a couple of my favorite trains in there. And including this monster train that used to pass by my house when I was a little kid living in Centerville. And it's just unbelievable. And then we found a place, I met up with Kiki Stockhammer, who people may remember from New Tech. Dr. Kiki?

2:59:20 Dr. No, not duck. That's Kiki something else. That's Kiki Stanford. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. There's a lot of kikis it seems and and she knew the area and so I we found a place that was Perfect for the meetup. So the way I see it the media would be take a train ride up to the train museum or get there somehow and then we all meet up at this at this bar and grill, which is seems like a nice place and it's It's just a dynamite, everybody will find it worth their while. And do we have a date for this? Not yet. Well I do have a date for the Manzag tour.

3:00:03 Make Australia New Zealand great again a man's go it should be Yeah, I might do it during that era this goes your way up. That's your you're off in summer or something with that though, right? Well, I don't want to send people to Sacramento in the middle of the summer. Well here's the problem we have went just timing wise because of a whole bunch of stuff including the move and We want to do last two weeks of July, first week of August, which I believe is pretty much winter in Australia and New Zealand. Yeah, yes. It would be too hot to do anything like that in Sacramento. But yeah, but not to do it earlier, like end of May. I'm also worried it's going to be too cold. Well, did you look at the temperature? Did you look at an almanac and see what the temperature is typically like? It doesn't snow there that much, I don't think, does it? Book of Knowledge. What is the temperature in Australia in July?

3:00:55 Sydney. Oh, well, then you're useless. Book of no- I would say that was useless! Book of nothing is- It's completely useless. Oh well. Alright everybody boy a lot going on in the world All we try to do is just break it down a little bit for you so you could feel better about yourself We protecting your mental hygiene. That's the idea that is the idea and our own Hell yeah, and I want to thank everybody who supported the show today not just financially But also with clips tons of clips coming in artwork everything great really appreciate that and I'm looking forward to Sunday show I

3:01:45 Who knows what will happen. Today being Thursday, anything can still happen. It always happens on show days. Yeah, usually Thursday. Coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper here in downtown Austin, Texas. We are the capital of the drone star state and of course located in FEMA region number six on all of the government maps. Saying remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until the next time in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here with another episode of the best podcast in the universe, the No Agenda Show. noagendashow.com. Until then, as we always say, in the morning, adios, mofos!

3:02:36 The following podcast contains the mingling of jingles. I'm shocked, shocked to find jingle mingling going on here. Jingle mingling! It may also cause anal leakage. I'm shocked, shocked to find anal leakage in here. Listener discretion is advised. Anal leakage! Last night's bomb. Oh, oh, oh. You know, nuclear gravity, like anti-gravity thing or something? Oh no, no, it was a gravity bomb. Last night's bomb was really huge. Rocket launcher. Oh, hold on a second, that's interesting. The bomb had been in Afghanistan since early January. North Korea certainly knows how to put on a show. North Korea certainly knows how to put on a show. You know, you know, you know,

3:03:25 Nuclear gravity It's like an anti-gravity thing or something. Rocket launcher. Last night's bomb was really huge. The bomb had been in Afghanistan since early January. I didn't learn anything by watching that bomb. North Korea certainly knows how to put on a show. Okay, Jeff, let me ask you something.

3:04:03 You work with three people of color. Jeffrey, you don't judge people by color in this country. That is racist. That is racist. Jeffrey, you're not answering my question. Jeffrey, you're not answering my question. Don't take me back to some before the war crap. Don, damn years ago. Don, damn crap. Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Jeffrey. I am a black woman, Jeffrey. I don't have to listen to you. If you can't have that empathy for someone who just literally told you that Don is crap, in the moment you're talking liberal to me i'm talking real this is real let me get the point out well they caught some some guy from iraq which is clip three and they're gonna stick him with it anyway stick him with it anyway the character was really huge

3:05:07 Hey man! Hey man, it was really huge man! No no, that's one working theory but shut up, I don't like it. Okay, so that's one working theory but authorities... ...rocky in the city of Wartol... ...the enormity of the... Okay, so it will collapse... Last night's bomb was really huge. It was shaking everyone when it dropped. When it dropped, it was big. He was being investigated on things.

3:06:14 There's a so-called Islamic State that he left last night which carried out kidnappings and killings so that 14,000 people dropped the killings so it would appear, drop, drop, drop, if you're a law as an Islamist, he was picked up because he dropped the identity of this attack. uh, police and soldiers have decided to prosecute him anyway. Alright, Simon Young, our political... Prosecute him anyway. That guy... Get that... That guy... Get that... It was shaky. ...anyway. Alright, Simon Young, our political... Prosecute him anyway. I'm gonna give you a borderline for that.

3:07:12 Don, Don, when I lived as a teenager in the South and my dad lost his job standing up for a black waitress. Don't take me back to some before the war crap. I want to hear what you're saying to the coworkers you work with. Now, Jeffrey, answer the question now. I don't want to hear it. Don't stop. Jeffrey, answer the question now. I don't want to hear it. Will you let me finish? Jeffrey, I'm talking to you. Will you let me finish? Don't stop. You're talking liberal to me. God, you're talking liberal to me. God, you're talking liberal to me. God, you're talking liberal to me. Thank you for what you're saying to the coworkers you work with. Now, Jeffrey, answer the question. Now, Jeffrey, answer the question. Now, Jeffrey, answer the question. Now, I don't want to hear it. Let me finish. Jeffrey, I'm talking to you. Let me finish. Good night. You should not be judged by the color of your skin, but by the content of your voice. Good night, we're done. Good night, we're done. The best podcast in the universe.

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