Force Majeur

00:00 This is all about gas? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora And Sunday December 11th 2016 this is your award winning Gimmonation Media Assassination Episode 885! This...is no agenda Always on guard for modern aluminum tubes and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where Plato say women who mourn election results not over the hill! I am John C. Dvorak. Secondary is always better. Alrighty then I'm a little worried, a little angst, a little anxious And why might this be? Well in the past whenever i've done an appearance somewhere and you don't say anything to me for two days that's usually because you're angry or you hate me I hate you

01:05 You didn't say anything. No, what was I supposed to say? There was nothing to it! I got to watch you on the Seed Man show and here's what I witnessed...you were sitting there in the middle trying to carry this show amongst Max Kaiser, who must have been... I think it must have been booked by Stacy. It seems to me. Yeah. Kaiser was disinterested he looked like for people out there are going to recognize this reference He looked like Bill Belichick on a bad day! I don't know who Bill Belichick is? Yeah well that's what we had here and so Kaiser is over there sulking in the corner Can I just say something about that

01:45 I told you he had some personal issues going on which he didn't want to talk about on the show so i'm not gonna mention it. I told YOU what was going on and that's part of it, but like... That ended badly is what im saying You could have, oh I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible. So yeah well then he shouldn't been on the show but that's fine He did get in a couple of things you tried to plug the show and Alex actually gave the URL Every coming back from every commercial break which there were quite a few Oh i only saw like one segment I guess I didn't see the whole thing I was on for an hour-and-a-half

02:23 What oh my god, John you missed so much good stuff. I even I even dropped okay Well, I didn't see that's all I saw was what you linked to which was just a short snippet I even dropped in the theater Kaczynski are you kidding me? Oh, I can't believe you don't see it. Oh man No, I saw the kids inskey. Okay, luckily luckily. I got two kaczynski reference It was just over everybody's head yeah of course And, uh... Let me tell you. You know here's the thing that was most interesting this entire... The... First of all- Stop! Stop first. Premise premise background what we're doing on the show Okay I get a signal text you know encrypted from Stacy Hey um because they had interviewed Jones today before They said hey yeah you know We were talking about you and he really wants to come on the show with us tomorrow

03:15 Like, okay. And then she said well I'll get you time and details etc.. So then it was Friday morning like, you know...I'm not like some whore just gonna jump up and down but then they say oh pick us up. But it turned out that you were? Yeah of course! And yeah I think she appreciated that I did that. Yes, of course. Okay so again Stacy says all right they're coming here at noon they're picking us up in the van I'm like hold on a second are we getting hoods thrown over our heads and And we've getting thrown in the van there the van like I'm not doing that because I will follow in my car Which was okay as it turned out? Yeah, and you know this is this is a complex is unbelievable

04:04 So you went over to the, to those two, the clandestine compound. The compound I did indeed. Yeah. And it's big and there's a, you know, there's 50 people there. Yeah. It's a lot of overhead. Well, the warehouse with all the, with all this stuff with which I think actually doesn't have seeds anymore sadly because I did ask for some Uh, but I got to get some seats. Yeah, they gave me two boxes of all of their stuff. Oh cool! I've got the male vitality, I've got the DNA repair... Oh yeah, I've tried it all and feel great. Wooo! I'll bet you do. Tina's like wait a minute how much did that take? I'm not coming over with that male vitality stuff. Stay away from that.

04:51 But the thing that was most interesting to me is, because it really came together very quickly. And so you know really the only announcement was about half hour before Max and I went on they tweeted out a picture of Max and I said oh they're gonna be on. And I guess kind of underestimated because everyone there was like really excited about MTV guy! You know it was kinda like uh... I had to reset my brain You know, because I'm there with Max and Stacy in a whole different vibe. And it was like, oh, this MTV guy... Oh, I watch you! MTV guy? Yeah. Then put in the middle like, oh, I didn't realize that this is how this was going to go down but okay. I'm good. Good to try but very little preparatory work possible. But to me, the most interesting thing

05:41 Was the response from audiences and of course this crossover between our show and and Infowars And people like oh, I can't believe this you hypocrite. You always make fun of him man What's wrong with you? And then people saying Alex don't have him on he makes fun of you as a douchebag! And here's my conclusion. John Krasnyk, MPH- We have an audience that is quite something and they do too! But the thing that's interesting is that our audience should appreciate that we're trying to make the audience bigger and we need to do these promotions as much as possible. We don't do half as much as we should. I would say I'm partly responsible for that. Greg Foss, Journalist Well it goes even further John.

06:31 But our audience should be appreciative and say, oh that's funny he got on. Instead of saying hey he got on the Seed Man show and then no don't say anything to anybody this is pretty funny they start jumping all over it you know in a negative fashion. I was prepared Because I've never met Alex. And like, I don't know, you know we'll see but to me it's like this is not... This is real life okay? This is not social media where you disagree with someone or someone makes fun of you and then you block them! You know that doesn't work that way in real life. Oh yeah you made fun of me I'm gonna block you now quite honestly I sometimes get tired of people I block them but- I block people constantly In real life

07:14 You know, he- Jones comes up and says hey how you doing? I'm like hey! You know it's just like... And the minute we started the show let me just get The Elephant in the Room out of the way. I'm sure you saw that bit where i said well we love you your a big part of this show with your clips! It was fantastic! They're grown babies and cows!! Did you see that part? Yeah, yeah. I saw that. So that's how you just eliminate all the issues. There is no animosity we make fun of him yet do we call him the seed man? Yeah! We call Hillary Clinton Lucifer, Plippityclop

07:52 I'm sure they call me jitterhead somewhere. Who gives a crap? This is how grown people... That's the one thing that I didn't notice, I was watching you fight Tourette's. It's so hard to fight Tourette's. I know it's like a constant battle. I have to think on my feet and fight Tourette's. It's very hard. Hate television. I probably am one of the few people who appreciate watching that. No no believe me this is now everyone's watching for it Yeah. Like, Hey man, be tricky. It's careful man. You're too rich to show him like what am I going to do? Even gets worse stuff. Right. That's actually a, that's the funny part about it and gets worse. If your kids pointed out, it's like you calling somebody out when they're blushing and then really turn them beet red just pointed out today while you're blushing what's going on in the blue. And it gets worse

08:42 I'm sure he'll have me back. They should, you're local. I know! You should be like the Tony Randall of the show. Another reference. Johnny Carson used to... he would always have... No no and David Letterman had Regis Philbin when a guest canceled. Yeah somebody cancels some guy comes in he spills in yeah that's it and he can carry it he can carry is not like his slouch That's me The back up. That would be you. I think though I could probably do her show with Max. I could probably do something with him

09:24 Yeah, I don't think Stacy's gonna go for that. She's doing pretty sure that she's not no no It was good I appreciate the invite and I appreciate the ability to plug this show And he did he did give our URL every single time coming back from the break? And I think we know that I think responses in general are pretty good well He knows the game yeah, and Only 43 I never had a clue what his age was one way or the other. What do you think he's old? Does he appear older to you? Yeah, more my age He was like ah man! I watched you when i was 12! Thanks... Hi That was the little boy that saw you on television Well what I told him is yeah we could see you back and please go wash your hands And then we were buddies it was good

10:12 The only thing I didn't get to do was, but I guess I kind of forgot it. But it wasn't the right vibe the right thing for it. I wanted at some point say hey Bill and just want to see if he would respond Oh, this is Bill Hicks. This is Bill Hicks yeah. Yeah. Everybody invited me to go shooting on the ranch and hang out. Oh definitely go shooting! Kidding me? Those guys... Does he have a collection does you have a gun collection? He does. He didn't show me by the way I did want to mention. You shouldn't have it at the studio. Well y'all know this is the thing everyone's open carry you know there's although I didn't see

10:51 I think was hyped a little more than what i saw in the studio because we were like oh you know we were there yesterday these guys got ar-15s across their back and they got carrying guns everywhere so I was strapped, I had my 380 in my inside jacket pocket. I don't know what these guy are going to do...I was ready for anything I was sitting there with a loaded 380 on the show. You will be this is, this is part of the situation. I finally decided this and you're going to become a liberal too. A gun carrying liberal which is I think what? It's that black mold

11:28 It must be. I think in Austin, the reason for the politics and everything else is because you're very slowly being poisoned Well that's Alex Jones' assertion What? Really Yeah! He has all these allergies too This is horrible this is biological warfare I believe it Or let's say...I believe the possibility I'm reminded of the Star Trek show where there's this is Paul and everybody gets in they then they want to be all love And you know this they all become these liver including spot on that planet. Where are there as the love plan? Yeah, yeah, remember that and the next thing You know they don't want to leave and they're stuck in their they've all become

12:10 is goody goodies and kind of humiliating, actually. And I think this is maybe what's going on with you and it could have something to do with the Facebook post. How you get how you get from me carrying a loaded weapon for protection too? I'm going to be a liberal voting for the Democrats. I don't understand I can make this, I can make this logical. Yeah, yeah, I think you need to work on it a little. I think gun care...I said- I prefaced the whole thing with gun toting liberal Oh, gun toting. Now well, the liberals around here do not repeat DO NOT tote guns Well then maybe when you eschew the gun at some point You'll say oh ya know? I think he's dumb having these guns around me all of the time and I'm gonna get rid of them Then I'll know Alright sure John

13:03 You're the one. So let's get it, yeah? Yeah, well I did want to say one thing that the best point I felt made on that and on that appearance was Max Kaiser hammering me is very hard to tell him when he serious or not but hammering on the fact that there has been no conclusive, no true investigation of Russian propaganda. He says why aren't people calling me? I work there. I can tell you exactly what's going on, call me please." No one has ever called me no one is interested because they're not which of course is true but that was a good point. Yeah well they are not interested they just want to see like this article which I cited in the newsletter. Your newsletter was very good and I think it may be a bit of the...

13:54 the foundation for today's show. And I'd like you to reiterate what you said, because you actually don't typically come out with such a strong opinion in the newsletter. Not normally but this one here was getting to me because of the nature of it. It started with this New York Times article...I mean, I had a sneaking suspicion that I was going to do something like this, but the New York Times article and look at it here. And the headline is Trump mocking claim claim claim by whether that's a key word always lawyer. Oh yeah. Mocking claim that Russia hacked election at odds with the GOP

14:38 And then it goes on about this David Sanger who's... And what the New York Times did is they used the information The Washington Post had compiled as their kind of, you know as the basis for that story correct? Well, mostly. The Washington Post is the one that's pushing this and of course they're the most anti-Trump of the group but I think this is like a last ditch effort by the Republicans to discredit Trump. This is what I like so much about what you wrote because I don't think people understand that that is actually happening. It was all Democrats, Democrats no! No these are the never Trump people I guess? Well and then if you want to look at...in fact let's start with this clip

15:26 Who are the two Republicans most likely to be involved in this? Lindsey Graham and John McCain. There you go! Come on, that's the answer to everything Now, here's Charlie Rose talking to McCain who is all in on this thing. But he has got some other things to talk about it. He is going do hearings and he laughs in the middle of this discussion like he is scheming some evil thing and just wait for the laugh as Charlie Rose mentioned that why don't you go talk to Trump?

16:03 I'm previewing it. And McCain says, now I don't have to talk to Trump we're going to have hearings. Monaco what is our policy if we detect an attack is coming to the United States? What is our response If there isn't a tack and look at the whole scenario of how The United States of America responds to this threat There is none But why wouldn't you, as chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee request a meeting with the president-elect to talk about this? I promise you that best way to have that dialogue is declare there will be

16:43 hearings and policy making and legislation coming out of the Center Armed Services Committee. I promise you that will prompt a dialogue, and it's going to take some time Charlie this is not something we're gonna be able do overnight Do you believe you have to turn the President-elects understanding around on this because I mean basically what he said to Time Magazine, he said, I don't believe the Russians interfered with the election. It could be Russia and it could be China and it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey. I believe that it couldn't have been Russia and it could have been anyone of many other people sources or even individuals That's what the President-elect said to Time magazine

17:23 Well, in some respects he's right that all of these are players that he mentioned. The problem is that he may not quite understand the best at it and most hostile and ones who have probably had the most significant impact over A number of years are the Russians. They're the best at their job general Rogers will has basically said the same thing all these experts have said our director of national intelligence has said it that that its the Russian's who are by far, the most active in this kind of behavior but its not confined to Russia. Yeah dick! Total dick

18:09 Hello here is another clip along these lines you want to play this is the background because it's Obama that wants to do big investigation. Oh I have the spokeshole with that announcement Do you have something else for the announcement of Obama's investigation? This is kind of just a rundown So play the spokeshole. Okay, and this is a backup spokeshole? We should mention that what we're talking about here is that Obama has decided that they want to do get all these intelligence agencies together and do a definitive report to show Trump to get it done before Trump goes into office. That means you got to get it done in next 60 days. They're going to put it together and show Trump that Russia's a bunch of creeps

18:51 And they're not to be trusted. That's really the goal of this. Yes, I would say that's the main... And that is the goal of McCain! of the pattern of malicious cyber activity related to our presidential election cycle. So he's requested this report be completed and submitted it before the end of his term In 2016, our intelligence community determined that there was malicious cyber activity intended to interfere with our elections in a high confidence assessment that was released this past October Now very important words here A high-confidence assessment What is this? Climate change?!

19:36 Everyone agrees. Yeah, well the high confidence John that's not proof that's not you know definitive it we have high confidence yeah I got a well known finishes his thing in the high-confidence assessment That was released this past October The intelligence community made very clear that this was activity directed by the highest levels of the Russian government now That is a lie That was never said. What was said was this kind of activity could only come from the highest echelons of the Kremlin They didn't say it was definitively so very clear that this was activity directed at

20:14 by the highest levels of the Russian government. They did not say it very clearly, so as we've made clear... They like to say it was very simple, yeah, of course We are committed to ensuring the integrity of our elections and this report will dig into this pattern of malicious cyber activity timed to our elections take stock of our defensive capabilities and capture lessons learned to make sure that we brief members of Congress and stakeholders is appropriate What the president asked for is a review malicious cyber activity timed to our presidential election cycle. And so it will be broader than just looking at this past election." Now, there's two things I want to say before you go into your spiel. One, I just want to read very briefly the important paragraph from The Washington Post article that started this off because it's very important is very different from the headline

21:03 Here it is. The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill last week, in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources. Agency briefers told the senators that it was now quote quite clear that electing Trump was Russia's goal according to the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters so anonymity is always an issue here we go The CIA presentation to Senators about Russia's intentions fell short of a formal U.S assessment produced by all 17 intelligence agencies, fell short

21:40 A senior US official said there were minor disagreements among intelligence officials about the agency's assessment, in part because some questions remain unanswered. And the thing that jumped into my mind right away is where did we hear this before these minor disagreements? It was about the aluminum tubes It was about, yes it was about the aluminum tubes. It was the same language minor disagreements and then that turned out to be a whole false premise and people died over it um so the headline is very very different from the actual story but that doesn't matter anymore beautiful launch thank you Washington Post

22:23 Well, as the New York Times goes into this, they decided to just do some kind of minor very slick I'd say slick character assassination. Let's see in the first second third fourth fifth paragraph is it just a straight up quote Quote, to have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact based. This is a key part of the quote fact base this is you know fact business good climate change thing again. Yeah I don't know. Fact based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions Wow! Unquote

23:08 Wow, this is a word that Scott Adams likes to talk about as useful as propaganda tool. Yeah said and this was that quote was said Michael Hayden. Oh yes of course yeah who was the director of the NSA later the CA under President George W Bush not mentioning that he's probably a war criminal and he still under investigation Yes. But he does his job because his job now is to be a spokeshole for the, you know... For security firms for selling gear Anyway it goes on but the thing that I just want to reiterate is that which I put in the newsletter which was the gripe of mine was what is wrong with the Republican Party? Because you have the McCain's and the Lindsay's are there only just two of many Republicans who've come out and said we've got to investigate this election

24:01 Who are they kidding? They're the ones who won the election and now they're saying, I guess why we didn't win. Maybe Hillary should have been the president. Let's see let's investigate this and maybe there's some way we can get her into office. And maybe we shouldn't have the majorities in the House in the Senate. We shouldn't have that because it was rigged by the Russians. And you know of course my comment was First of all, this even bring that up instead of siding with Trump on this to make people question the elections just brings out the protesters and keeps them not my president meme alive which I outlined. Which by the way i think those protests are gone didn't they just die away? Where are they well they'll dare believe me as soon as he gets it off senators do you still have j what's the date of the 20 j20 j20 the j20 situation is going to be a huge protest that day

24:49 And so they'll bring this up, well who? Why are you protesting? Well Trump's not the real president. Even the Republicans don't think he's the president! This is a problem that I have. Are the Republicans so stupid that they're all behind this idea of blaming the Russians for everything? That would seem so... Well here's the way I see it and I did see a little glimmer of hope See, if we solve our so-called problem with Russia... We solve a lot of crap in the Middle East. I mean, that just kind of falls away. So it's not just that we don't have warmongering and fearmongering against Russia but then we don't have all this beautiful stuff that we can sell and give to the Saudis... Yeah no he can't rubbleize so easily We can't rubbleize and we can make sales. So i would say many of the, not just Republicans but many people in Congress yeah they depend on their re-election funds for the military industrial complex

25:49 Yeah, yeah. I would say that who don't give a crap about McCain and Lindsey in caps there they're leading the charge hell yeah along with shift from the Democrats. I got to clip on it. Well yeah there's a number of Democratic Democrats are easily on board but it makes sense. Well, let me play this little clip here which I think was an honest clip. This is Charlie Rose again and he had...this guy Isikoff who used to be a very famous journalist now with not Yahoo News but I haven't looked up into what happened to him that has gotten downgraded to such an extreme but he talks about this in the same oh God we got investigate the Russians but there's some actual facts about these intelligence agencies and what they think

26:36 Yeah, no that's the FBI. I love just starting off with hey yeah no boom there we go! The FBI took the lead on this throughout but they this is clearly going to encompass the entire intelligence community and should point out that probably the strongest public statement has come from Admiral Mike Rogers at the National Security Agency, who although he didn't say Russia made it all but clear that he was referring to a nation state that tried to influence our election. And he said even something even further intending to affect that election and that is probably the biggest open question here what were

27:23 if indeed it was the Russians, what were they up to? What was their motive? Was it simply to destabilize and create confusion in the American politic as they have done in many other countries or was this a concerted effort to influence the results of the election. No, this guy is all in. He's buying it! But he was truthful when he says that Rogers never actually said the Russians... Yes and I want to follow that up And but i want to say this before you do that which is if they had real proof they would say they have proof Well thank you

28:04 Uh, Bob Bear I'm sure you saw the clip but there's actually... Oh did Bob Bear? I don't get this one at all. Well, well, well, kicker to it which of course was not the piece that went viral here is the thing that everybody saw I hope if i should say Bob bear isn't he always billed as ex CIA operative and works for CNN. The Russians. Just a little more background He was, his story has been told on this show. He came out I want to mention this because this clip I think applies to this he came out of the University of California where he knows better than what he's saying

28:43 continue. Why does he know better? He knows, if you go to Cal you know enough about the Constitution and all the rest of it that you can't do... You're not even close! This is bullcrap what he's suggesting. Well, he actually even addresses that. The Russians it looks like to me did interfere in our elections we'll never be able to decide whether they change the outcome but I tell you having worked in the CIA if we had been caught interfering in European elections or Asian elections or anywhere on the world. Or like, I don't know tapping Angela Merkel's cell phone those countries... Yeah! Or fixing the elections and any country name a country your named blank space South America just give me a color I can show you a country for new elections and any democracy would

29:30 and i just i don't see it any other way amin the electoral college before that nineteen th has got to know whether the russians had an effect whether they went away he leaks whether they hacked email and whether they affected American opinion. And they had a good reason not to go after Hillary Clinton, Putin hates her for the Ukraine. So Bob if I'm hearing you correctly, your saying we should have another election? How would that work is that plausible? When a foreign country interferes in your election and the outcome is endowed with legitimacy of government I don't know how it worked constitutionally. I'm not a lawyer, constitutional lawyer. But i am deeply disturbed by the fact that the Russians interfered and I would like to see the evidence because if the evidence is there... There isn't any!

30:15 I mean, as an American citizen. Okay that's the clip that everybody saw and of course i too was like is Bob Bair on drugs? This is insane what he's saying but then he did drop this in and I liked it! What we need to do is see the forensics on this yes you need to see it fast and I want to see the detail there isn't the CIA at this point can say we have to protect sources and methods the outcome is too important Sometimes you have to sacrifice sources, and I think we now is the time okay? So that's a good point now is the time you got it show show your cards Show your card see I ain't got nothing to show of course. They've had nothing to show duh That's why he could say that mm-hmm Do you have other clips regarding this because I do have the shift thing I wanted to play for which was just amazing

31:08 Okay, play the shift thing. Okay so shift was on Tucker Carlson who my god this guy is starting to get really good He took off that bow tie. You brought this up before you did, I said it was the bow tie choking him. Choking him! Blood supply to his head. I think so too. So he has a shift on and you can stop it whenever you want but this is way cut down from what it was but he just went after him continuously. This is...You'll recall the letter that I was sent This is the one that a number of senators sent to President Obama saying, we have information. You have to open up an investigation this he is one of the guys who signed that letter. He has ground zero along with a couple of other senators for this instigating this effort. Schiff is a congressman. Oh I'm sorry. Well here's

31:59 It's a different letter then. Hold on, I think he mentioned it in the intro. For the effort to delegitimize the presidential election some in Congress are demanding that President Obama brief them on Russian interference with the election they say... No this is-I guess this is a different uh..a different letter sorry Quote The Russians quote hacked our democracy and they're mad about it HACKED! Joining us now is one of the members who signed that letter House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff from Burbank California Congressman thanks for joining us Good to be with you. So one of the complaints in this letter, which is pretty interesting is that Russia and I'm quoting now hacks our political institutions by among other things giving us access to John Podesta's emails in WikiLeaks Now I am against hacking people's personal emails for sure it's a problem

32:39 But no one contested those emails were real and the information in them was true. And voters got to see that, and it helped them assess how they wanted to vote. Why is that bad? Are you really arguing against more information for voters? And are you really arguing in favor of a foreign adversarial party hacking into the American... Of course not! I'm explicitly not. I'm just saying once this information comes into public view then why's that bad? Then if we're in agreement that uh..we shouldn't tolerate foreign countries interfering in our election, hacking and dumping of information then we shouldn't condone it in any way. Now are you saying that we're going to look the other way and ignore Russian interference because they brought to light facts that were helpful or hurtful for one candidate or the other or a public interest? The voters had a chance to evaluate that they made their decision but if we're gonna protect ourselves from further Russian meddling in future we have to call them out on it We'll have to inform the American people about it. We're calling you out! Hey!

33:33 And Donald Trump may have been the beneficiary, and I think he certainly was of the Russian meddling this time. But when President-elect Trump has to cross Putin as invariably he will because Putin is not our friend The president might take Putin as a friend but he's not then he may be subject to the same interference. Nobody is for hacking let me just make one clear point you don't know that Vladimir Putin was behind those hacks well we do know this and i think that's a fact. This guy deflects everything. So let's not pretend he did it. Well, let's not ignore what the secretary of homeland security and the director national intelligence said publicly which is than these hacks were such seriousness

34:09 They could not have taken place without the approval at the highest levels of the Kremlin. That's speculation and we've seen a lot... Well, it is speculation! It is not speculation. You can only say speculation. Is that statement fact? Uh, it is a statement of the intelligence community's best assessment. Okay. And you can swirl with that thing because there's a political reason to do it but this what the intelligence professionals are saying and they got to take it seriously. I remember vividly the massive stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, which the intelligence community assured us were there and they weren't so my skepticism. I think it's a patriotic position Let me just say this we know Tucker Tucker let me just say this you don't have to take my word for it You don't have to take

34:47 What a douchebag. The party of Reagan, you know? arguing that voters should not have had the right to see that information. This is the question, this is the thing I think he's spot on about this. We didn't have a right to see this? If you could take it back would say voters are not allowed to see that information Well I would say we oughta stop Russia from doing this now whether the press should publish the information Wow! Do you think they should?

35:24 Now it's going to get worse because now Schiff is so. This guy answers absolutely nothing and he does a very good job with I would say, and all these. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. These performative. Now Carlson is gonna do something which I dislike severely. He's going to say look into the camera and say blah. Oh yeah that is chicken shit. But Schiff response is beyond... And they just, this could have ended in fisticuffs Fisticuffs I say that would be better. Hey, well question I think that there are some cases where the public interest is so great They should publish and more important can't say you know the Putin government more importantly for the president-elect today To to say that dodgy doesn't know whether the Russians your look here You're on the Intel committee Let me just ask you one final question right into the camera and say I know for a fact

36:14 The government of Vladimir Putin was behind the hacks of John Podesta's email. Absolutely, the government of Vladimir Putin was behind the hacks of our institution and the dumping of information... Of John Podesta's email! Not only in the United States... See he's so quick as guys like yeah of our democratic institutions, and then causes no no come on It was it was the Podesta email. No but also in Europe okay? You're not you know what your doctor Tucker I think that Ronald Reagan rolling around You're carrying water for the Kremlin I love this now Now the insults. You're carrying water for the Kremlin!

37:10 It could be. But wait, Schiff is gonna make a horrible statement watch this, watch this. You're carrying water for the Kremlin which- I'm not carrying water for the Kremlin! Look you're a sitting member of congress on the insult committee and it does sound like the insult committee Yeah, you're on the Congressional Insult Committee. You're a sitting member of congress on the insult committee and you can't say they hacked... You're gonna have to move your show to RT Russian television because this is so beneath your office because it's so dumb and you're being duplicitous I'm asking you did they hack Podesta's emails? And you can't say it! You just said it was Kerry!

37:46 You said it's getting water for Putin. That is pretty hilarious! When you are an apologist for the Kremlin, that is what you do? One last time Congressman look in the camera and say they hacked John Pettis' emails we know for a fact that Putin's government did that. You can't and you know you can't and your hiding behind weasel words. I just said that... Say they hacked John Pettis' emails going to be specific as to who's the... Oh, because you don't know it. That's why! Alright done one You don't know it and your alleging without any evidence that its wrong. Doctor, your ignoring the evidence because you don't care The fact that is helped the Republican candidate is all you need to know apparently. That's totally false

38:23 I just think if you're going to make a serious allegation about an actual country with an actual government, you oughta know what you're talking about. And you don't! And I think that you... No. ...oughta accept it. I gotta go. I'm taking cash from Putin now and on RTO. Republicans on the Intelligence Committee have seen for a fact- If you could say it, you would and you can't. You are willing to be in denial about this because it suits a Republican president. Alright wrap it up Tucker! Whatever. You can blather all you want man but I gave you chance to state it clearly and you wouldn't which tells me everything we know. Not very much apparently. I appreciate that congressman and now i need to take a call from Vladimir Putin so i'm going to put you on hold for one second do this tease uh, I thought that was pretty good he's off the deep end totally oh yeah i mean both of them yeah speaking of RT i don't know if you caught that but Max told me that before the appearance as well Do you remember the girl who quit on air? The one who said PUTIN

39:17 Yeah, Putin. Putin at RT. He said that the same people who got her to quit on air had asked him to quit on air and they had money They were offering him money and they were from Voice of America Wow! Only on a no agenda show Uh huh And he said it wasn't enough How much money? He said it wasn't enough He didn't go in He's like, eh, eight holes You gotta show up with some real cash Isn't that great? So the voice of America is the one who got that girl to quit on the air by bribing her. Well, that's according to Max, yeah!

40:02 I, it's the only thing that makes sense to me. She wasn't getting paid a lot. They're not paying big Dover RT they don't know what you do with this going with the scale is now and so they're probably paying her like some yeah, God, I know nothing. So she gets a stay off for 50 grand and she takes it and she goes up into some local TV somewhere makes more money than she was making on our team exactly well luckily Max is not like that Now, you know, so this Russian hacking and by the way I could tell it really pissed you off because you were actually tweeting Congress people.

40:40 I was every once in a while, say something. You were tweeting Lindsey Graham like hey, hey, because Lindsey Graham said something like wow Russian is hacking democracies all over the world and John replies well that's our job they should get out of the way yeah it was good so yeah i said that so part of this is in a way i also did a tweet about oh you mean like into Ukraine? Yeah I saw that word... In Ukraine! I didn't even know..I didn't I said it right actually And part of this is supporting or dovetails, or maybe is intended to support the idea that we can change the electoral college's vote on December 19th. No it's 20th... no it's the 19th! You said J20 earlier so it was J19? No sir, it is J20 hashtag J20 I thought it was hashtag J19 Oh no hashtag J20

41:32 And I know because it was a bad hashtag. It's a bad hashtag because a lot of the J-20 China's new fighter shows up, OK? Well 1920 21 is Jay something something but on December 19th the Electoral College Who have been for people who don't understand we don't live in a democracy. This is a republic We have rep and we have represent rules. Yeah, we got rules baby and Yeah, we're crazy but we're also not one country. We are 50 states who United States There was a reason to have balance but Michael Moore is leading the charge Excuse me By the way it's I think it's almost if there's two things going on what? I think it's a felony to try do to coerce

42:20 to coerce a voter. Yes, it is! And that means any voter that means you when you go to the polls You can't have somebody come up there and say I'm gonna punch you if you vote unless you vote for Hillary I don't know if its a felony. I think it's a well It's definitely against the law and I think it is a felony and again these guys are having their lives threatened We've played clips before yeah the electoral college folks Well, what's happening and there are a number of people leading this charge but Michael Moore is definitely up ahead of the pack. We live in two dimensions right now to complete different realities in the world but certainly in the United States it's undeniable people... It's like the dress remember? It's blue and silver its gold and black whatever your reality is your truth and no one's gonna change it

43:06 So we're going to be listening to crazy for a long time. But Michael Moore, wow! Pretty much unconstitutional, unpatriotic and douchebag. He was on Seth Meyers. Here's the Democrats biggest problem and this includes people who voted for Hillary they don't act like they won They won. She's 2.7 million votes ahead of Trump tonight. But I want you to really listen to what he is saying. Almost 3 million, almost as many votes as Obama got in 2012. Right. So the Democrats... This is the second time this has happened in 16 years it happened with Gore where they win the popular vote but lose the White House

43:47 This would be like the giants beating the Patriots 21 to 19. And then the sportscaster is going, well it was too bad that Giants lost that game. It was like no, it would be more like they had more yards rushing and they passed the ball more but they lost another better analogy. That's a really good analogy. Hey, for a non-student guy. I'm stunned by this analogy! You stunned me! For the sportscaster going... You don't know who Bill Belichick is but i know my football! The sportscaster's going well it was too bad the Giants lost that game yeah he was like no we have to get rid of this electoral college the majority of our fellow americans do not want him in the white house but because of an arcane law from the 1700s that hold on an arcane law from the 1700s let me think what that could be um

44:35 Is it? Wait, wait. It's in the Constitution! Yeah the entire constitution is arcane. Instead of saying it comes from the Constitution and if you want a constitutional amendment to change it fine no it's an arcane law I do not want him in the White House but because of an arcane law... I can't believe he said that From the 1700s that was set up to placate the slave states so they would join the Union So they gave them a little more power Ah thank you for saying that I believe if you want to change this because they needed a little more power, the slave states. Then you also need to change the amount of senators that people have or maybe... This is exactly the other side of the coin! You have the same powers as other states

45:23 It was an equalizer. Was it based on slaves? Sure, sure. So they gave them a little more power because they had a lesser population. Yes thank you! Is he not explaining exactly why the electoral college exists with this statement? Pretty much okay yeah so it's to balance things a little bit yes yeah because we're in the United States not America. Because what he doesn't say is uh to balance things a little bit. Otherwise, California wins everything! He's not gonna say that he's not going to say it. California is the responsible for the 2.7 million in popular vote over I mean there was like 70-30 or something was the vote here because nobody cared and and the state is completely washed over by the Democrats In the area that I'm in its 80% Democrats always so everybody's got a safe seat So if you want to just turn the country over to California because they're gonna

46:17 the tail that will wag the dog. Well, it wouldn't matter if all of a sudden all of California moved to Texas which by the way seems to be happening and we would have the same issue Texas also couldn't determine the election if we had 100 million people here and as John is you assert were going to be liberals gun-toting liberals now Yes. So that's why this electoral college is in place, but wait it gets better. So they gave them a little more power because they had a lesser population so and the irony of a man who said so many things that were racist during the campaign that he would benefit from a law from the 1700s

46:53 to placate the slave states is just, the irony of it is unbearable. And but the other thing that founding fathers thought about this and... Now here comes because he's going to speak the truth! But here is where we're going to see and this is very important Two dimensions same information Then I interpret it one way Michael Moore interprets it another way not that. I don't understand his interpretation here It comes and but the other thing the founding fathers thought about this And this was Hamilton's what of his genius ideas with it Was that there maybe there should be a stopgap just in case you know, a madman or somebody who thought he was gonna be king Gets elected There's that one final

47:36 door. He's got to go through exactly and I believe which is say, which is to say it were yeah you've got two ways of looking at this. It worked because it kept a criminal person with Hillary more popular votes who got the most popular votes as someone might For whatever reason because she's a woman. I don't know yeah, it worked But if you want to from the other perspective it didn't work because you got this guy these other guy beat Hillary he always used pro-Hillary. Well, and so now they're saying... And I know this is like the great the great this is the dimensional divide that you were talking about This is it! This is exactly it Two people seeing the same thing in two different ways Exactly Exactly That's what going on He has another little prediction of what's going to happen He's not President of United States yet Oh, I'm sorry He's not President of United States yet Yeah He's not president right? Right

48:40 He's not president until noon on January 20th of 2017. That is that is what are we this is a Wednesday night? Yeah, so that's more than six weeks away Would you not agree we regardless what side of the political fence your on. This has been the craziest election year It certainly had nothing anyone has predicted has happened yeah every it the opposite has happened Yes So is it possible just know that in these next six weeks something else might happen yeah something crazy something were not expected So that could either be the electoral college deciding somehow, which they won't do. That's not happening well you know they're trying to get what is he doing? Is he predicting an assassination that is the only other thing it could be I mean if he said before December 19th advocating an assassination that's how what does he saying here that is one dimension could read that way yes for sure

49:33 It sounds like it to me and I'm looking at all these stories about the Russians and all the rest of it. You know, this last ditch effort...I don't believe that the Republicans have given up on the idea that Trump shouldn't be president maybe Pence will be okay All I see is this all the if so, it goes like this assassination takes but oh well that's too bad. But you know he wasn't going to be good anyway and everyone. He isn't president yet. And he didn't assassinate the President. It was different yes Now this is pathetic. Yeah it is, it is and the Republicans are on board with this a large number yeah I think most of them

50:19 You really think most of them? I listened to, are they high what do they want then. They don't want Trump as president they never did you know why because now the Louisiana and so there's now uh the two final Republican Senate senators or two final sentences have been filled by Republicans. So now I guess their britches are all up high and they're like, oh we don't need it now we got the House and the Senate for sure now we don't need Trump is that what you're thinking? Possibly well then know those get pants they still have a Republican and Pence's probably be a little more amenable to what they want to do Well then they should wait because Trump's bill as far as i'm concerned trump is a host cannon

51:03 So, unless they're really really high it would be very messy to have anything happen before the 20th. If you want Pence in then you gotta wait until the inauguration! Makes no sense makes no sense to me. No... What? I'm not sure what the situation is if the president-elect is dead before the inauguration if the vice president just gets that job automatically which is what I suspect We've looked at it we looked at it But we looked at and what conclusion did we draw I don't remember. I don't like thinking about these things, really i dislike it enormously It's bad karma for everybody Well these guys are pushing it and you just heard from that guy is the same thing they're pushing it These Republicans are all in with this I saw Paul Ryan he was on CNN Did you see? No he was on Hannity He was all-in on investigating the Russians

52:04 All in! Yeah, and you know what? Here's what I like about... And again this is just a matter of how you want to see it. What dimension your feet are in for Trump to possibly or who the hell knows to possibly nominate Rex Tillerson of Exxon is incredibly frightening to people like McCain and Graham and everyone else because that would mean, oh gee he... there are not many people in America of high level executives who know Putin. This guy does!

52:39 And he's the guy that can bring together some peace. Of course, if you live in a different dimension like oh my god Russia is gonna we're gonna be owned by Russia! Oh! On speed dial! Yes I got face back baby i see what's going on So there's a lot of issues and it does kind of revolve around the $650 billion dollars that goes into the military industrial complex. And we've had this shot across the bow, hey Boeing your shit is too expensive! That's a shot across the bow. Well let's start with Pentagon Report

53:17 One. It's about time I gather there wasn't a great deal of cooperation across the board, but they did come back with a report and what did it find? Well what they found was pretty striking this is kind of hard i think for most folks to understand but the pentagon actually up till then had no idea how many contractors actually worked for it so they were trying to figure out how many people work in its business operations and they found that more than one million people worked in these core business operations, like you said health care management human resources. Didn't we play this clip on Thursday? Yeah yeah you did a repeat clip last show too I just want to remind people what's going on. Property management things that any organization needs but even for the Pentagon 1 million is a lot of people these are essentially desk jobs and that compares to only 1.3 million active duty troops

54:11 So the back end of the Pentagon was almost as big as, you know, the tip of this spear so to speak. 2001. Oops, that was the best one and we didn't play is this one? This is the part three of this clip. This is where Trump is bitching about the about the Boeing jet. Well speaking of the president elect and speaking of Pentagon asking you to OK but that's OK because I have some Pentagon related clips

54:53 Well, Pentagon slash CIA. The Uncle Tom of the Democratic Party! Uncle Tom! Tulsi Gabbard? Oh yes no I saw this I didn't clip it but... Tulsi is on a tear oh my first off This woman has got to be stopped This woman's got to become president She's fantastic She obviously never got quick- I get the sense that she was like Got into Congress, never got courted by anybody. No one ever thought to tell her to hey here's what you don't do? There is that but it reminds me of I get the sense that congress is kind of like prison You get thrown in prison

55:37 And you get one gang or another who wants you to be, you know with them. Your bitch! To protect you from the other gangs and I just get the sense that nobody invited Tulsi to any of the parties. I think they only asked she's some Hawaii. You know she's cute, she's a surfer, Hawaii But of course she's a vet and she's dynamite. I could watch her a lot Do you agree with Donald Trumps vision of America first when it comes to foreign policy? Uh, i'm glad to hear him talking about ending our countries

56:13 interventionist regime change war policies. As you know, this is something that I've been talking about for years—that we need to stop the destruction that's been caused by our country continuously getting involved in these counterproductive regime change wars that not only end up strengthening our enemy in groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda but they actually end up causing more suffering for the people in these countries where we are intervening as in Syria now. I know you feel that way about Syria and Libya and Iraq do you feel that way about Afghanistan? Afghanistan is a little bit of a different situation but yes essentially Now, I have the next clip is also on Jake Tapper

56:53 is about a bill that she introduced and I have the clip of her speaking for a minute in front of Congress but it's pretty much exactly what she says here. And this, wow! Coming from a Democrat it's just surprising but so true and Tulsi Gabbard 2020. Tell me about legislation you have a bill that you introduced today that would address loopholes You say have allowed American taxpayer dollars to fund terror groups such as Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria. Are you really suggesting that the US government is funding these terrorist groups? I'm not only suggesting it, this is the reality we're living in. Not directly though. Most Americans if you are a... Listen to Tapper, well not directly as if thats okay. Well not directly

57:36 We're living in it. Most Americans, you know if you or I were to go and provide money weapons or support or whatever to a group like Al Qaeda ISIS we would immediately be thrown in jail However, the US government has been providing money weapons and tele assistance and other types of support through the CIA directly to these groups that are working with and are affiliated with al-Qaeda and ISIS. So you're saying there's a CIA is giving money to groups in Syria and those groups are working with Al Nusra and ISIS?

58:12 There have been numerous reports from the New York Times to The Wall Street Journal and other news outlets who have declared that- Is he just playing dumb for a reason? What's the point. Is he playing stupid, is that the idea? Yes You go on there are you all I can't believe it! I can't believe this is happening! I'm shocked I tell ya Wall Street Journal and other news outlets who have declared that these rebel groups have formed these battlefield alliances with Al-Qaeda, that essentially these Al Qaeda groups are in charge of every single rebel group on the ground fighting in Syria to overthrow the Syrian government. The U.S. Government says they vet the groups they give money too very closely and you're wrong there are not

58:54 alliances between groups of the american taxpayers fund and these other groups obviously they all are fighting asad I beg to differ. Evidence has shown time and time again that that is not the case, that we are both directly and indirectly supporting these groups who are allied with or partnered with al-Qaeda and ISIS in working to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad And we've also been providing support through countries like Saudi Arabia Turkey and Qatar to do that Bingo! Boom shakalaka Tip for the Congresswoman No hot tubs, no small aviation. Definitely no small aviation. No puddle jumpers between the big island anything else? No, I really like her and third piece is again one of these

59:42 What dimension are you in? Interpretation clips, which Jake asked her about. Quickly before you go I know that some of your colleagues Democrats have expressed concern about too many retired generals being in the Trump cabinet You have the National Security Advisor General Flynn and then also he's talked to General Mattis And General Kelly at the Pentagon and Homeland Security Do you share their concerns or do you disagree? I don't share their concerns. In fact, as a veteran and someone who is still serving in the Hawaii Army National Guard, I find it pretty offensive for people to outright discriminate against veterans. Here you have generals who have literally spent their whole lives serving our country putting service before self

1:00:25 putting their lives on the line to defend democracy. And yet people are criticizing them and discriminating against them, saying just because you served as a general previously you were disqualified from serving in high position of leadership in our government. These people arguably have put far more on the line and are far more deeply personally committed to upholding and protecting our democracy than their critics. There you go, and I love the slipping in the hey, should we be discriminating against vets? And of course this is also just how people interpret it. I mean, I will be the first to say that, you know, the uniforms and all the medals has kind of a warmongering spirit but guess what some of the largest executives in the United States are

1:01:10 work in the military industrial complex. They, that's what they do and their managers and they know how to do a lot of things but it is very very scary to people in certain dimensions here's Carol CNN with our pal whose back Lucy Napolitano Democrats they're worried that Mr Trump has picked so many generals you know he's picked a general to serve as Secretary of Defense National Security Department of Homeland Security and maybe even secretary of state does that concern you? Not necessarily, and I think the putative nominee for Department of Homeland Security

1:01:59 General Kelly, I think you need somebody that can do multiple things at the same time because the Department of Homeland Security has such broad-ranging powers and authorities. What you want is a leader who can organize prioritize and multitask Some though say a militarized view of America got us into the Iraq war. It created problems in Pablo Gray, but she's saying a militarize America? No! The lying press and complicit with the military industrial complex is what got us into the war that's what got us it not just a bunch of generals I think it was Colin Powell who was was he Secretary of Defense at the time now

1:02:42 What was he at the time? Yeah, I think he was Secretary of State. State. The rule of America got us into you know the Iraq war it created problems in Abu Ghraib it created a mess that is now Guantanamo Bay so do they have a point? You know they may in the abstract...I think the key question is how do these generals operate when for example General Kelly will be in a civilian context this is not the Pentagon Oh okay means you can't boss people around or what You have to put up with the lesbians, from the sounds of the stuff that we just discussed previously. That was in Homeland Security not in the Pentagon necessarily. Well that's where this Kelly is going he's going to Homeland Security Oh that's right yeah you're right oh man maybe that's why she so smug. Wait until you meet my friends! Until my friends beat the crap out of ya! Yeah it's gonna be rough for you baby

1:03:38 I think it's a good idea to put a general in charge of Homeland Security. It's already a militaristic concept and an operation, you might as well get it so it's organized a little better in a military way. It doesn't have to be attacking the public or anything like a national police force but they need some sort of...I think a general running that thing is not a bad idea. No? Oh! I think that sounds pretty good to me. depends on Kelly himself. I actually have a clip about Kelly, I think it's got background in it. Oh okay. All the same. Kelly and Homeland Security on Democracy Now! This will be very slanted Donald Trump also announced he's picked retired four-star Marine General John Kelly to be the Secretary of Homeland Security

1:04:25 Kelly was formerly the head of United States Southern Command, where he oversaw the military jail at Guantanamo Bay. Margaret Huang, executive director of Amnesty International USA said of Kelly, quote, we're particularly concerned that while chief of U.S. Southern Command, Kelly oversaw Guantanamo during periods of extensive hunger strikes and force feeding that was unsafe and inhumane," unquote. Kelly has repeatedly testified to Congress, saying the U.S.-Mexico border represents a threat to national security, leading many to worry he'll escalate the militarization of the border and U.S. immigration policy overall. While the head of United States Southern Command, Kelly also promoted the Alliance for Prosperity— Oh! —a program that provides hundreds of millions of dollars in police and military funding to Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.

1:05:11 The program has been criticized by human rights activists and some Democratic lawmakers, who are calling for the suspension of this funding to Honduras until the country addresses its gross human rights violations. Kelly retired from the military in 2015. He's the third general Trump has picked for top positions so far. The other two are retired Lieutenant General Mike Flynn for national security adviser and retired Marine Corps general James Mattis for defense secretary. You know what's funny to me is they got these three generals and the left, which is democracy now in their perspective. They hate Flynn and they hate Kelly but they like the guy whose nickname is Mad Dog! Yeah I know that's great. Hey John with that I'd uh if you don't mind like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you John C stands for continuity is for pussies Dvorak

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1:14:56 You see mostly old women. Old women, older old women with aches and pains they love this stuff And I will say it over and over again It's a weed you can grow it yourself people Indeed What A Thought Onward. Henry Sepulveda, $250 goes into the associate executive producer category keep up the great work he writes from somewhere in the United States keep a great work on all the great media deconstruction huge thanks for preventing my smoking hot girlfriend and fellow producer Andrea from becoming a hillbot like the rest of her Southern California friends we saved another relationship yes excellent good yeah well I'm gonna give them some karma

1:15:43 You've got karma good man, that would be a bummer. Oh yeah, that would be bad Tim anonymous from parts unknown two hundred thirteen dollars and twelve cents no No, no, nothing except is the little he puts a deed does the right thing? He sends in a check it puts a post-it note over there on the check over his name and says, anonymous. Or in this case he says use Timnononymous. Dave Bozeman's our last associate executive producer for Wilmington North Carolina sent in a check and sent in a note with that check which reads I'm sorry it has been a few months since I donated but I wanted to let you know that I have not jumped ship

1:16:26 I can't begin to, man overboard. I can't begin to tell you how much you two mean to my sanity." I watch and listen to no MSN anymore and only a bit-to-the-right talk radio and To the Seed Man when Pizzagate reared its head and I started believing some of what I was seeing on the blogs. I trusted Adam when he said it was all BS. Ta da! I also wanted to thank you for turning me into a couple of... Turning me onto a couple excellent TV series, Mr. Robot and The Girlfriend Experience O-M-G-E. The girlfriend? As you know... Never mind! I don't think i like that one but alright Well he watches it as you know if you haven't I'll tell you the two shows now you should watch one is People Of Earth outstanding

1:17:22 But it's kind of dry humor. It's a comedy, it's about aliens with actual aliens in the show and...it's very funny show. I've watched but only the second half Well this is very funny if you get chance to see may not be for everybody, generally recommend you but another show really like Berlin Station But you gotta watch it from the beginning, which means you gotta find a way to get through early shows. Berlin Station has this kind of gritty feel of a real sleazy kind of Tinker Soldier whatever that thing was- Tinkertailer soldier spy? It's got that style and is kinda creepy and is about the Berlin CIA station and all the mess that its in And it just really very entertaining

1:18:12 It reminds me of Rubicon in some way too. As you know, if you have an IQ above that of Stephen Avery's cousin there is almost nothing to watch on the boob tube and I greatly appreciate the tips." She's got two more. Please continue to let us know if you become aware of quality TV Also, the good place is funny but it's on hiatus. I can't quite recommend anything of such quality to you except maybe Hit and Catch Fire especially for you John and the first season of Fargo. I couldn't watch Fargo Thanks again for everything and please play anything Sharpton as I have despised that man since the Tawana Brawley fiasco That's all he wants?

1:18:55 Yep, well I give him a karma too. And then I will say...I didn't say Pizza Gate is BS. I said there's no victims that's the thing that's missing from this and that has been countered of course i'm foolish because there are no victims because that is what they put on the pizza is pieces of the children you see? I am not kidding John! I am NOT kidding YOU This is- this is a... What? I put that gag in the show, that they're eating children. Yeah but this is the serious response that I'm getting Oh God! There's no victims because they're eating the children Exactly There's no real conflict Thank you very much my friend You've got karma Outstanding Alright thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers

1:19:47 Of course, what this means is that you have credits that are official and can be used even if your president. Wouldn't it be great? That was some fake news wasn't it? How about that for fake news where everybody knows that you can be on a credit roll as executive producer and that doesn't mean you're working. That means you're credited with part of the foundation of the show which in Trump's case is financial, he put a lot of work into it. He hosted it. Nothing means he's going to be working. Well you're talking about his... he's gonna remain as executive... I have a clip! Okay well let me yeah we'll do that but coming right out of that just wanted to say thank you very much to our executive producers and our associate executive producers uh wow Nussbaum thank you so much um not just Nussbaum

1:20:32 And we look forward to your ceremonies for those of you who have become knights and of course, we want to thank everybody else who came in above $50. And it keeps the show going! And of course another program for you on Thursday remember us at... I'm so happy You could make that noise or you could propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth What? Order! Backtrack false Shut up

1:21:09 Shut up, Steve. All right let's play that one right away John which one is it? Okay this is the clip Trump rundown a conflict of interest Surprising news from Trump world tonight. The president-elect announcing loyalist Rudy Giuliani will not be joining his cabinet It was a mutual decision by President-Elect Trump and Mayor Giuliani to do so Giuliani telling Fox News tonight, that was the only one I had any real interest in Giuliani lobbied hard for the job just a few weeks ago but now joins new Gingrich and Chris Christie as would-be shoe ins now on the outside of the new White House. The names now at the top of Trump's list for Secretary of State Mitt Romney, former antagonist turned supporter and Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon Mobil. And today sources also

1:21:57 tell NBC News Mr. Trump plans to tap Gary Cohn, Goldman Sachs number two as the director of the National Economic Council he'll join other Wall Street insiders on Trump's team also new scrutiny of the president-elect decision to stay on as the executive producer of The Apprentice new host Arnold Schwarzenegger I don't think that he's going to be co-hosting with me. Even though maybe we have him as one of the guest advisors or something like this." NBC Entertainment declined to comment, noting MGM owns and produces the show is retaining his executive producer credit as he always has. It's been the same way since season one." Still, experts warn Trump's business entanglements could pose a problem. The business world has seen this time and time again where executives think they have only the appearance of a conflict but in fact it turns very dangerous and very real very quickly

1:22:52 It's real! It is dangerous. How is it dangerous that he's going to be the do-nothing executive producer, you know who's just there because he's just there? Because he helped create the show... how is any of this dangerous?! So I heard this um what day was it I guess it was Friday. It was just everyone was talking about this and they were all like, well you know executive producer and how can he do that? Or can work? He's going to go yes some presidents have hobbies or they write books but But no one had really ever bothered to just ask if he was going to do anything. No, it's just a credit. It says its words on the screen and deserved as his show is part of this deal who cares? Yeah, who cares? And it's probably less conflict of interest than doing a book for Simon & Schuster like I know Obama's publisher is but he did two or three books

1:23:44 And they go out and if you look at his income statement over the last few years, most of his income is from the royalties from these books. How's that not a conflict of interest? I mean, you could do speeches for banks. That's not a conflict of interest anymore so yeah... Apparently not! It was pretty insane. Now Hillary Clinton re-emerged and she comes out of the woods. She still thinking well maybe these guys can pull something off and I can be like president Well what i thought was very interesting Now, this is the fake news bit that she was talking about. Is she right? The way I hear what she's saying... She is kind of referencing Pizzagate because at a certain point she says you know well this fake news is dangerous because then you have ordinary people just trying to get on with their lives service the community and what else could she be talking about than that guy went in and or the actor

1:24:42 The actor, the known actor. Yeah I know that...I am more and more convinced that If Pizzagate is anything, it's co-Intel Pro and maybe it wasn't set up that way but it is definitely being used to usher in... Yeah. I think you're right and went off the tracks. Exactly. And they had to bring the actor in to put it back get this thing settled down. Exactly because of course obviously we know to some degree this is true. We don't know if the people involved are actually doing And we don't know enough, but yeah. We know that there's pedophilia in government. There are 5,000 infected computers...not infected, but have kiddie porn across the government. Last week a report. But of course we're distracted from that. The UK is still rife with these pedophilia investigations so this is a great distraction

1:25:37 She's adding to it and of course, ushers in the era of fake news and stifling. And well congratulations. Let me just mention briefly one threat in particular that should concern all Americans Democrats Republicans and independents alike especially those who serve in our Congress The epidemic of malicious fake news and false propaganda that flooded social media over the past year It's now clear that so-called fake news can have real world consequences. This isn't about politics or partisanship, lives are at risk. Lives of ordinary people just trying to go about their days to do their jobs contribute to their communities it's a danger that must be addressed and addressed quickly

1:26:27 Bipartisan legislation is making its way through Congress to boost the government's response to foreign propaganda. Silicon Valley is starting to grapple with the challenge and threat of fake news. It's imperative that leaders in both the private sector and public sector step up, to protect our democracy and innocent lives. Pizza pizza! All right, now you did a little work there. I'm glad to see that you actually gave us some thought and put pizza-pizza at the end! Thank you thank you and i led you right down the path. Very good very good. I'm going to give you a clip of the day for doing that work. Oh thank you. So let's play my clip on this because I have a little commentary to me yeah? I know you're very amused yourself it's very funny uh this is the fake news PBS Macedonia clip

1:27:20 Ah, yes. I have one from NBC too. Technology companies like Facebook and Google say they are working to tackle the proliferation of fake news One way has been to decrease the incentives for advertising that appears on these sites Cheryl Sandberg is COO of Facebook on Thursday's Today Show We've taken important steps but there is a lot more to do we know that people don't want to see hoaxes on Facebook and we don't want to see hoaxes on Facebook According to a BuzzFeed news investigation, many fake news sites are built purely for profit. Sometimes even created by opportunistic teens in far off places like Macedonia regardless of the content because more clicks lead to more dollars. You know The Today Show had a whole piece this morning

1:28:04 or maybe it was just NBC News this morning, about one of those guys. They had the one guy that I guess they were also on NPR's Planet Money or something... a guy in Macedonia and they come up with this piece that makes it sound... well, I just gotta play this for you. It's about exactly the same story and I chopped it in half. Fake news has affected Velos So they're in this country or this in Macedonia and that town whatever is called. Fake news has affected Velos In a country with almost 1 quarter of its citizens unemployed And in a town with an average annual income below $5,000

1:28:44 The impulse to deceive was seemingly irresistible. So now, as the money flows so too does the liquor This club is cashing in on the success of fake news entrepreneurs, who get paid relatively majestic sums by Macedonian standards by selling advertising on their sites. What happened in our town was that a lot of money came and people quit their jobs so they can put a lot of effort into this as they saw this as the big idea, the big chance, the big change in their life One venue here even plans to host a club night on the day Google pays out its ad revenue In response to concerns that fake news may have influenced the election, Google and Facebook recently announced new measures to crack down on sites like Dimitri's. But his Google AdSense account is still up

1:29:33 Oh, gloves are off mainstream against Silicon Valley. Why? Let's discuss something here. I got a note from our economic hitman explaining something that is not being discussed whatsoever in any of these news stories one how why Macedonia yes why Macedonia? Are they are they... They sound like the Russian that's for sure why not Belarus? Why not Any little country where the people aren't getting paid. Why Macedonia? Well, it turns out... First of all the economic hitman is the one who wired Macedonia which he feels kind of mixed feelings about The Macedonian kids and then the adults everybody there hates Hillary Clinton

1:30:27 As far as they're concerned, it's because of Bill Clinton doing the Bosnia-Serbian bombing. The Macedonians hate Hillary Clinton and they did this to do anything they could to keep her from being elected. Why Macedonia? That's why none of these guys and these guys apparently were in Macedonia. They could have talked to the kids, why are you doing it? No! They don't do that this is shit reporting from NBC. It's fake news Fake news Well, just like the Smith-Mundt Act was reversed in the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. We have two bills that have passed the House and one of them has actually passed the Senate but they have to come together with a new uniform bill because there's some language differences

1:31:19 And these are all... have all been passed as part of the new 2017 National Defense Authorization Act. And I think we should discuss them briefly, and as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, we have the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal year 2017. I want to do that second because that has a lot of other things in it that are interesting But the bipartisan Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act is really the one that deserves some scrutiny. Of course, it's too late to do anything now. According to one of the sponsors of this bill himself Rob Portman he is a senator for Ohio here are the two most I'll read verbatim actually

1:32:10 The Bipartisan Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act is organized around two main priorities to help achieve the goal of combating the constantly evolving threat of foreign disinformation. They are as follows, take note John do you have your pen? Yeah! The first priority is developing a whole-of-government strategy for countering foreign propaganda and disinformation The bill will increase the authority, resources and mandate of the Global Engagement Center. Write that down! The Global Engagement Center... Wow! To include state actors like Russia and China in addition to violent extremists. The center which by the way is if you ever watch the Americans whenever the Russians are calling into a home base they call center just kind of little funny little thing there

1:33:01 The center will be led by the State Department, but with the active senior level participation of the Department of Defense USAID and the Broadcasting Board of Governors. The intelligence community and other relevant agencies. Standby John here it comes! The Center will develop integrate and synchronize whole of government initiatives to expose and counter foreign disinformation operations, and proactively advance fact-based narratives that support US allies and interests. Which I think is called propaganda so... And that is proactive

1:33:47 Yeah, that means they're gonna have a bank of people sitting in this was going on supposedly during the last election from the Hillary side. where you had banks of people and if you made a comment on social media, they'd jump on you. A group of them. And say oh no that's not true, you're just blah blah blah. No that's not true, you're just a Kremlin carrying water for the Kremlin. They would do that and this is obviously what you are talking about here is bigger. Interesting you bring that up in section 103 of the Intelligence Funding Act, I don't know

1:34:23 Section 103, authority for increases. The Director of National Intelligence may authorize employment of civilian personnel... civilian personnel in excess of the number authorized for fiscal year 2017 by the classified schedule of authorizations referred to in section 102 So, they are already saying we're going because of this horrible problem with Russia and their propaganda. We are now going to just give authority to increase to hire more people. More people? Yeah! Now back to the original bill here. The second most important point is legislation seeks to leverage expertise from outside government

1:35:07 to create more adaptive and responsive US strategy options. The legislation establishes a fund, a fund... We gotta get in on this! Listen maybe we can do it? To help train- This is just like Europe man! To help train local journalists and provide grants and contracts to non-governmental organizations, civil society organizations, George Soros think tanks private sector companies media organizations and other experts outside the U.S government with experience in identifying and analyzing the latest trends in foreign government disinformation techniques This is us! Hello Curry Dvorak Consulting Group what are these people...what are they thinking?

1:35:55 They should have called us. I don't get it." This fund will complement and support the Center's role by integrating capabilities and expertise available outside the U.S government into the strategy-making process, it will also empower a decentralized network of private sector experts and integrate their expertise into strategy making process. And my mouth is a, I don't know how the American public can put up with this. You reading that just straight up? Yeah it's disgusting. It is and they're trying to manipulate not trying they're manipulating the media. I think they've already taken over all the major broadcast guys because they were all run by giant corporations so you get these lousy reports like I just said about the Macedonian thing. They don't bother to tell you any of the details and just give you a shallow report and everybody's getting drunk at a bar that's great

1:36:48 And I've been watching NBC exclusively for the next few weeks, and it's just horrible. just a poor operation and it's just designed to keep the people stupid. Yes, if you're interested in some consulting services currydvorak.com is where you can find all the info about us Let's go back to this...to the funding of the intelligence agencies Just to give you a little idea what else they are thinking A directorate of national intelligence is also going to establish guidelines that will help and include exemptions of personnel levels for a student program

1:37:27 A trainee program, Reserve Corps and... Reserve Corps spook? Yep. Oh yeah this is great! Well they already do this I mean half the journalists that are in working in the big media or working for the CIA that was exposed in the old Woodward Bernstein not Woodward because he's... Operation Mockingbird. The church committee sure it does this very interesting oh man how much of these guys getting Geez, don't they keep the numbers pretty private? Yeah. They do way too much. They do but it's there is authorized to be appropriated for the intelligence community management account of the director of national intelligence

1:38:12 He gets half a billion dollars just to deviate, I guess. Let me go down...I marked all this up you can find it in the show notes at 80... Half a billion dollars a year? Yeah just for the director of national intelligence. So 500 million dollars a year just to dole out money left and right? Yeah for important things. Large corporations don't have that kind of cash flow Well, of course we need to spend in on the promotion of science technology engineering and math education in the intelligence community Which means there will be an outreach A five-year investment strategy for outreach and recruiting efforts in the fields of science, technology engineering and mathematics. STEM to include cyber security and computer literacy." So you know they go into the colleges and you're going universities which have always done but it's nice to see them just saying it here let me just scroll down here we have um oh yes The Directorate of National Counterintelligence and Security Center so we're gonna have a counter intelligence and security center which will be established

1:39:07 Which will be appointed by the president with the advice and consent of Senate, so that means there'll be hearings. There will... let me see... I'm gonna go down here this is it's like 800 pages this thing Ah yes assistance for governmental entities and private entities in recognizing online violent extremist content Not later than 100 days after the end of the vaccine, and consistent with blah-blah. The Director of National Intelligence shall publish on a publicly available internet website a list of all logos symbols insignia and other markings commonly associated with or adopted by An organization designated by the Secretary of State as a foreign terrorist organization Logos I guess yeah, you know that's gonna solve the problem Yeah

1:39:59 Logos, they won't leave it. They won't put on care I'm sure the country of the committee you know whatever now we have some meat and potatoes title 5 matters relating to foreign countries Active measures by Russia to exert covert influence the term active. Oh yes This is interesting a community counteractive measures by the Russian Federation To exert covert influence over peoples and governments they define active measures means activities intended to influence a person or government that are carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly including the following establishing or funding a front group? Hold on a second. If you back up and read that again

1:40:50 That's all they talk about. They just completely, they bitch and moan about RT just all the time! They had hearings at that woman discussing it within England? Yeah And here? But they're codifying it and they're laying it out exactly... but the premise is that nobody says anything It's bullcrap They complain bitterly constantly Yeah. Well, here's the things that they feel are not being discussed a establishing or funding of a front group B covert broadcasting C media manipulation D disinformation and forgeries. Hold on stop stop stop I knew you'd like it covert broadcasting is illegal yes what is covert broadcasting? A pirate station number station 5 7 17

1:41:42 14. B. Wait, I might have one of those. 9. Wait, I must have a numbers station clip. 6. Hold on. 33. You're actually pretty good at it! 9 18 17 12 8 6 22 13 India Tango Mike Standby 33 33 33 Robilizer There you go. Okay, so covert broadcasting media manipulation disinformation and forgeries funding agents of influence incitement and offensive counterintelligence assassinations and terrorist acts That's what Russia does that was pretty pretty cool man guys a badass okay now let's talk about the center real quick um

1:42:42 Oh, they're gonna have a cyber center for- oh they're gonna do a museum. There's money for a museum I forgot to mention that. Oh cool! Yes the Secretary of Defense may establish at a publicly accessible location at Fort Meade The Cyber Center For Education and Innovation home of The National Cryptologic Museum dynamite. It may be used for the identification, curation storage and public viewing of materials related to the activities of the National Security Agency any predecessor... The center may contain meeting conference and classroom facilities that will be used to support such education training public outreach in other purposes. Ah it's their school! This is where the journalists will go to learn. Oh they have it's like a museum. Museum yes! They always have an auditorium there build-in auditorium but that's mainly so they can do things in there while recording everything exactly

1:43:28 And then here's just one I just caught, you know one of my favorite little bitty bits they put in there. Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this act, The Director of National Intelligence shall submit to Congressional intelligence committees a workforce plan to recruit develop and retain personnel in the intelligence community with the skills and experience in space and counter-space operations analysis collection policy and acquisition counter space The hell is that? Well, I guess if you have space wars... Counter-space is like in my kitchen. And then we never have enough counter space. That's why I love you man exactly exactly and then they're gonna do some scholarships fellowships internships yeah the hiring is on

1:44:24 And what's this? Yes. I was like, the money is going to be flowing. Let me see and then we have some reporting duties which i don't think are that interesting now that said that's that's the main crux of it the main crux so that of course supports the portland murphy counter-propaganda bill Yeah, well the goal of all this is to make sure that never never again in the history of this country do we elected Donald Trump. That would be pretty much but this is the goal because this was just didn't work out well but it is also truly about you know keeping Russia our enemy so that you know we don't solve things mentally and spend money by the way I don't know if you caught this Mika Brzezinski

1:45:12 revealed something very interesting about the Clinton campaign on The Morning Joe show the other day. Not understanding that perhaps there was an arrogance they needed to get up their eye worse and understand that this isn't over. I'll just say it, NBC got a call from the campaign like I had done something that was journalistically inappropriate or something and needed to be pulled off the air. Think about that! That's shooting the wrong messenger. By the way, Mika there were also people surrounding the campaign that tried to tell the campaign it was in trouble those people were shot out and here we are And here we are How about that huh? They tried to get her fired Yeah At least Trump was more open about condemning the media he did in public Right He didn't call them, hey get this woman off the air

1:46:12 Maybe he did, but there's been no stories like that. They wouldn't take his call. Well, we're talking about getting the Russians. We have to keep them as enemies. Let's play this little clip because it is kind of a rundown on... This is the clip that's called Ukraine-Russia EU USA It's about the gas market and its kinda interesting. Back in October 2015 Ukraine stopped buying Russian gas citing high prices switching to European gas instead well that led to a situation where Europe was actually selling Russian gas to Ukraine with more nuts RTS Miguel Francis Santiago Gas Wars Europe Russia Ukraine and the United States sounds like quite a mess, isn't it? Well that kind of is see Europe is better off buying Russian gas directly from Russia instead of Ukraine Why well because it will be an uninterrupted transfer unlike a few years ago when you crane siphoned off gas destined for European customers now

1:47:10 Now, Ukraine would also be better off buying gas directly from Russia. But in 2015 the gas supply for Ukraine was cut off when it failed to pay. Needless to say, Ukraine has backed itself into a very dark political corner with Russia However they want to renegotiate and resume supplies And guess what? Russia is ready and willing as well So how does Ukraine get its gas today It gets it directly from the EU. The same Russian gas, by the way through a reverse process that works by allowing Ukraine to buy the gas at a higher price through basically a reseller which in this case is the EU! Not a very smart way to buy Russian gas from Russia isn't it? Now another trend that's growing now on the gas market... The US with its liquefied gas For the first time in 60 years, the U.S shipped out more natural gas than it brought in

1:48:02 So why should you care? It means America wants a bite of the global energy market, and a big one. It's seeking to become an energy superpower... ...and challenge Russia in the European market, supplying about 1 3rd of the continent's gas demand." Oh! Wait a minute?! This is all about GAS!? There's a lot of gas going on. And there's a little follow-up clip here. Where is that from? What news organization is this from? RT. Follow up? Well, it's probably fake news. The second half here is a little... Yeah, catch! It's very costly to ship US gas to consumers in Europe while Russia has a robust pipeline network and its gas is cheaper

1:48:47 So the US chances of penetrating the European market boils down to the willingness of European countries To accept higher prices and that has to be a political decision. There's a different story It's gonna get shoved down the Europeans throats, of course Well here's the way it works you're saying we were gonna make rush out to be the big enemy which been doing and then they're gonna get sanctions against them. And also you can't do that, you can't use their gas we're sanctioning them! They are terrible people! Buy our gas which costs more but don't worry it cost more but at least your not dealing with these horrible Russians

1:49:23 I think, by the way that the Russian thing is so out of control they're trying to shove the bad aspect about Russia. Bad, bad, bad play this clip. This is the let's see where is this one? This is I just thought this was hilarious when I saw it NBC and said it's the NBC. No huge snowstorm like that. OK Thank you. Dylan Dreyer is here watching it for us, this is the dreaded Siberian Express. What's it looking like? Whoa! When did it become the Siberian Express, this horrible storm?!

1:50:03 Wasn't it used to they had different names for this northern thing that came down, but now it's the Siberian Siberia Express Dylan Dreyer is here watching it for us. This isn't a dreaded Siberian Express What's looking like as we head into the weekend? That's a reference of people being shipped off the Siberia to die in work camps Yeah wait just so you do a lot of good things go through your brain the Siberian Express It's all bad oh man Hey, well you're gonna see some some Millennials heads exploding pretty soon Yeah. The White House, you know there's a couple of bills moving through the houses again and the White House is saying yeah no we're pretty much on board that women should now register for selective service. Yeah I know. And it's very funny unless you got daughters... Well let's see how far it goes. But well I think its actually going to get in there

1:51:03 Think they'll put it in and well, they have to if they're gonna go the way they're going I mean this is because of that that dipshit who's a head of the defense Department guy Droopy dog what's his name Carter? Ash ash Carter ash ash Carter. Yeah, yeah, I got a marine could This has been going on on PBS and elsewhere brainwashing the public about women in combat And how it's good, it's bad. It's debatable." They're trying to make... That's why this is in play because the law is being written so it makes sense that they have a piece about this. And so they had a piece about it that kind of starts off negative. I don't have the whole clip here. I don't want it but it's about the Marines in particular because the Marines are the ones who resisted this and this is the clip called Women and Marines

1:51:56 We first caught up with Rebecca Wolfe earlier this summer back home in rural Maryland. At the time, she was living with her parents Her mom and dad didn't like it that she was joining the Marine Corps but they were not surprised From an early age, Rebecca wanted to break the traditional girl mold When she was young, she said she's always going to drive motorcycles drink beer smoke cigarettes and get tattoos. I can remember her telling me that oh my goodness How do you feel about the idea that your daughter might end up in a combat unit? Maybe on the front line somewhere? I don't think any parent wants their kid boy or girl to go to combat

1:52:33 I surely don't. I feel that they shouldn't be on the front lines." I don't know that she fully understands what she's getting into though too sometimes, so I mean we explained and she said well I'll be able to shoot helicopters but they do shoot back yeah i don't know if she comprehends that Turns out the Marine Corps didn't want women in certain combat jobs either. In 2013, the Secretary of Defense ordered that all combat positions be open to women but after a period of deliberations, the Marines asked for an exemption they argued that putting women into the infantry and do other combat jobs would make the Marine Corps a less effective fighting force. This contract we have with each other... General Robert Neller is the commandant of the Marine Corps, the highest uniformed officer he says

1:53:20 The Corps' resistance came from a test the Marines ran back in 2014. It took all male units and units that mixed men and women, and then compared their performances in a series of combat drills. And then we ran them through a very physically demanding test I mean it was hard And there was data in there that showed, in the aggregate, that in certain things mostly in load-bearing and the most physically demanding tasks, that teams that had females integrated did not perform at the same level as all male teams. The results showed that male-only teams moved faster, especially with heavy loads. They fired at the enemy more often hit their targets more often and evacuated casualties faster. Integrated units with men and women also suffered more injuries

1:54:08 Yeah, then they disproved it by saying well these guys have all men team was still a bunch of pros and the other ones were half amateurs. And this report goes on almost every day they're pushing this idea but the thing that bothers me the most was the early comment where they asked the dad do they want her daughter or his daughter in combat in a combat unit on the front lines? And the first thing I thought about, are we at war? When's the last time we declared war where there were front lines. Are their front lines anywhere that somebody be there shooting? We're not even supposed to be in these countries. Oh yeah, well not supposed to be but we're there. We just dropped another 1500 into Syria. 1500! Congress wants to express itself a little more strongly what... These are illegal wars

1:54:59 We're not supposed to be in these wars and front lines. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Anyway, I just found it. Just slightly annoying. Well making this assumption that there's good You know we need women and then do we just so bad that we need women well We have a phone yeah because for more fair Well you passed the Equal Rights Amendment And then I say okay fine now you can get your women in there all right That's never been passed by the way Yeah, I know no No, but me I don't you don't talk about that on Facebook cuz you're getting to arguments I don't have a Facebook account you know

1:55:41 But here is something interesting that came from a professor of economics. When are these days you're going to see that I was wise? Listen, if i could get off Facebook, I would! I'm doing it for the show Yes, that's good. That somebody... Professor of Economics University of Tampa America risks losing the war on terror in Afghanistan unless it legalizes the opium trade. I think this is just the beginning of something we're going to start hearing about. Wow, we need a clip for that! Yeah well it'll be coming according to a recently released report by the Afghan Ministry of Counter-Narcotics and The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime We always read these guys

1:56:20 Opium production in Afghanistan has risen by 43% in the last year. The country's drug trade employs some 2.1 million people, 12 percent of the Afghan population and generates approximately $68 billion dollars in revenue a year. The US government has spent some $12 billion in eradication efforts – more than four times the size of the entire pre-invasion economy Yet Afghanistan now supplies around 90% of the world's opium. So what is wrong with, with what I'm seeing here? What's wrong with these numbers? Something is very strange! Yeah the 12 billion is obviously being spent on something else like it goes into your pockets possibly or someone else's pockets Or marketing Marketing Advertising

1:57:09 What eradication? You got soldiers standing in these fields, why aren't they at least burning the place down now? All military knows that we're there protecting the poppies. We know that! We all know it I have a yeah, let's do one more before we take a break. You got one more? I gotta cut these two it is two-parter Okay But I just thought it was interesting because people say oh you know you guys are I got an anti Trump couple of things this guy Cohen Guys coha and he's a writer And he wrote the book on Goldman Sachs, and here's some very funny interesting observations. I don't know whether it's good or bad about Trump and this is going on Trump part 1 suggest

1:57:54 They can further Donald Trump's populist ambition, that is serving the people who elected him. I'm laughing because Steve Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross are about as far from populism as you can possibly imagine they are the .001% of the 1%. And one of the biggest ironies, of the fact that he surrounded himself with all these Goldman Sachs people is that Goldman Sachs... He was on the Goldman Sachs do not fly list. This is the kind of client we do not want at Goldman Sachs How do you know that?

1:58:32 Because I wrote a book about Goldman Sachs, and I know that from talking to people at Goldman Sachs that he is the poster child for the kind of client they don't want to do business with. Mainly because he had borrowed all this money from Wall Street to build his casinos and then didn't pay it back! One big bank that did lend to Trump in recent years was Deutsche Bank, in 2005 to build the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. Steve Mnuchin's hedge fund also lent money to the project In 2008 at the height of the financial crisis a big payment came due We're talking $330 million payment that was due he just decided didn't want to pay it He sued

1:59:16 Deutsche Bank, as well as all the other lenders including Steve Mnuchin's Dune Capital claiming that he didn't have to pay the money back because an act of God had occurred this financial crisis caused by the very people who lent him the money for this project and therefore he didn't have to pay it back. So the one firm on Wall Street that would do business with him... He turns around and sues Hold on. I think when we do these kinds of clips, we have to use the jingle. He's Trump! He's Trump! The President!

1:59:58 Now, a couple of things about that clip. It was obviously in the contract it's called force majeure I think is...I don't know exactly how to pronounce it. Yes, it's force majeure which means usually force of God, force of nature beyond anyone's control. Right we have that in our speaker's contract when I give speeches Of course, of course. Yeah you try to put a very few contracts have it in there if it's a dummy contract If you were having your own contracted you'll put that in support and literally needs for my storm or something You can't get into the speed, you know the thing they want their money back now They're not gonna get an overwhelming force which can also be an act of God

2:00:35 Yes, and so that's I thought Trump did pull a good one there. Now he's been putting other projects since then it's not as though nobody ever gives him any money So I think this is kind of a it's a kind of bullshit And by the way, I say I used a couple of swear words today and I want to talk about that because we need Someone to edit this show cuz the station in Chicago wants to run with bright once they broadcast us again Anyway, you'll get to that later. So all he's doing is what you do and we've had a letter from one other contractor in Manhattan who says this is the way you do business and that it's just the way it is. And Trump... so I don't think that's a bad thing. Part two of the clip, it's probably more of a bad thing than screwing the banks out of their money.

2:01:23 Cohan worked on Wall Street for 17 years and has been writing about it ever since in bestsellers like The Last Tycoons, House of Cards and that book on Goldman Sachs Money & Power. He's interviewed Donald Trump for magazine articles. What was he like to interview? Very charming, very funny. He once told me I had a great head of hair like him by the way One thing that I talked to him about was how everybody on Wall Street had told me that he cheats at golf So you mean you asked them do you Of course! I said of course I asked them did you cheat at golf and he said

2:02:01 No, William I don't cheated golf. I'm a scratch golfer and of course I have all these country clubs that I own why would i cheated golf? And you didn't believe him No, I didn't believe him because subsequent to that a friend of mine was playing with him in a foursome that day and saw Him cheated golf shank the ball off to the right. Oh you know and then he sort of Parade up the middle of the fairway with his caddy 20 feet behind him and then saying oh mr.. Trump Mr.. Trump your ball. I found it It's right here in the middle of fairway when you were surrounded by yes men ah I think that is probably the best insult. I've heard, you know when someone accuses you of a lot of cheating at golf? That is like the most...that's the lowest of the low isn't it? That's like really bad. Yeah, that is bad and you know if anything is I believe yeah possibly well I think we have a new segment John

2:02:55 He's Trump! He's Trump, the President! I'm liking that. Dang... oh, Ghosts, uh... Cecil Rogers or Rodriguez man great job Yeah keep that one right at the ready. I really really liked that Uh hey let's keep it on track for today shall we? Let's go boom I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On NO AGENDA All right, now we have an interesting situation here with Sir Richard Moffat who donated $101.05. He's in Milwaukee as one of our normal regulars but he also later in the donation list he said 5510 so he sent a note in with these two separate checks one for 101 dollars and five cents one for fifty-five double niggles on the dime and so that adds up to what? 150... 15660

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2:15:05 Oh, play the climate glade. Climate glade? I have a quick climate glade clip. Chris Cuomo... Now ask you just so i'm clear what is the agreed to percentage of scientists who agree with the consensus that 97% that's what I believe as well Yeah, we have documentation to say it's 97. Of course we also have a long exposition on why it's 97 and how that's a bogus number to begin with. Right but that's not what people believe in the other dimension... No of course not! ...the counter podcast dimension so if I had is it 97 percent 99 or 90 you choose 97?

2:15:55 97 is the right number but now they're starting to say 99. Do you accept the science or you don't? No, that's not what he's saying He sees nuance where you see black and white that it's either settled or not settled. 99% of the scientific community says global warming is impacted by mass. CNN says 90%. Now do you hear that? Say it again This is Chris Cuomo And I guess he's probably talking about the EPA pick. And he says 99, but then the woman from CNN says no, CNN says 90 when? Well, I never heard that. Yeah listen to that happen. Listen you accept this science or you don't know. That's not what he's saying. He's saying that new he sees nuance where UC black and white that it's either 99 percent of the scientific community says

2:16:42 global warming is impacted by masks. CNN says the number's 90%, but here's the deal! It's 90%? Okay, wow. 99- it's not even 90- it used to be 97 percent of climate scientists who wrote about the topic discussing in specific say that they came with 97 percent of those people that already wrote about saying its... I guess what I'm pointing out is that even when they make up a fake number They can't even stick to it. And 90% that's never been in play, but now what's weird to me is 99% of these is scientific community which I consider myself a part of. Absolutely Professor Dvorak are you kidding me? Anyone who disputes that I shall chop their head off

2:17:36 It's unbelievable. My daughter asked me, she listens to the show now. She's a dog walker so she gets something to listen to when walking dogs which apparently pays more than half of the minimum wage jobs around here and so she listens to this show and I'm driving her over someplace So what is this thing with you and Adam and climate, in the climate? And I had the reader...I just told her the whole background. I said we're skeptical for any guy. I told her why. And I don't think a lot of people realize why we're skeptical. First of all let's start with cap-and-trade. If there's such a big important thing, why are we doing cap-and-trade that means nothing changes it's like a balancing act so that's bull crap.

2:18:19 Climategate, the phony emails that came out and the fact that people don't want to discuss it. And every report is confident high confidence low confidence pretty confident. Right and what happened to the old hockey stick? She doesn't even remember the hockey stick! You remember the hockey stick and all that? I also said to her, it just went on and on. And then the whole thing you have to realize is based on computer models which are notoriously lousy! They're notorious, you can't use a computer model for this. Remember the kids in England would never see snow again except inside of Snow Globe? Right yeah that was a good one

2:19:01 And then there's the mudflats over here. I mentioned that this has been going on, and I have a map from 1880 that somebody sent me to say mud flats are there... Where is this rising tides that are wiping out the Marianas or whatever islands are going away? When Jay comes over with a friend does she do you notice if they're tiptoeing past so as not to alert you that they're there? Don't say it's my crazy dad! Mudflats. I got in trouble with the Borac women, by the way. I want to tell you about it and I want to say...I know this story and I want to say because it was brought up at dinner so I wanna say that also is that closing off of debate 99% of all scientists bullcrap! These are lies. It's a lie. It's not 99 percent of all scientists

2:19:53 So why are these lies and the deceit and the closing off of the debate, saying it's concluded we're done? This to me strikes at me as fishy. Well this clip continues... And in 30 seconds this Cuomo douche will tell you that if you deny climate change with man-made climate change you are a racist I've been waiting for this. I'm waiting to figure out how to do that. Here it is. Global warming is impacted by masks. CNN says the number's 90%, but here's the deal, Republicans a lot of Republicans and certainly something like 30% of voters and they voted for Trump agree with him And they think that in terms of the predictions and the forecasts This is where he comes in That its far from settled

2:20:41 The predictions in the forecast. People thought the world was flat? Yes! People thought blacks and whites shouldn't marry, people thought blacks shouldn't be equal that doesn't mean that you accept it as fact as a leader. People thought that the Antarctic ice would be gone by now it increased in 2014 There ya go he went real quick from denying climate to I'm surprised they didn't put the holocaust in there Yeah well this is again fishy to me It's like shoveling, it's like peeing into the wind. I mean you just this is nothing but an uphill battle for anyone who publicly is a skeptic that's us. It's a very hard thing and people still every once in awhile we still get some new... I don't get you guys about you don't get the climate thing. It's settled! It's settled! It's settled as a computer model

2:21:38 Well, so here's something I don't get. And uh...I'm glad it came up at the dinner table! I am happy to understand what happened here. On the facebag, Buzzkill Jr.'s wife, Jessie, she posted that, you know this kid is kicking inside of me and... She'll be at the meetup. Kid is kicking inside of me and here's what I posted I meant it very well of course. I said, I was always envious that my daughter and her mom had such an intimate relationship for months ahead of meeting her And I meant that really well. I kind of meant like wow its so special you have a human growing inside of you First comment from someone named Teresa Um yeah... suppose thats one way of looking at it Second comment from Mimi

2:22:29 Yeah, aliens punching internal organs just doesn't have the same romantic ring when it's your organs. And then I posted... Jeez last time I throw out a compassionate comment about this topic and then the next comment is yeah probably better like holy crap! Now how did- How did I go so-? I meant this as a nice thing Yeah, yeah. I when I heard this story which is pretty much exactly the way it was discussed you didn't change it. Uh, I said uh...I said black mold. Ah! It's burning up. Buttslam!! Am I stupid? Did I do something dumb? Is- I guess I was. A little bit Why?! It's just a little bit mushy. It was the black mold don't worry about it. It's fine You're just gonna eventually become a gun toting liberal Well

2:23:31 Enjoy your roadshow then with all the speeches you'll be doing to pay the rent. Well, it hasn't happened yet but I see it going there. Wow Brutus wow yeah hey okay I'm sorry to have to play two separate clips from him because it's a little much Wait, you're not talking about your play at John Kerry clip? No. No no no oh okay now I have to say another Tucker clip actually Oh that's okay and you know I'm beginning that I don't watch it yours Now it's your beat I mean I see him once in a while like on a You know a clip thing he goes over the Twitter but I think It's great I think you're right The guy has actually become worth listening to He's combative

2:24:15 The context of this is Bill, was it HR 6 I think? 21st Century Cures Act. That's the backdrop and not that I understand all the nuances because this is all the stuff that was put into the Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare and regarding testing of medical devices there's a whole bunch of stuff in there generics Um, the pricing of generics. So there's a lot going on and this actually already, uh, uh, this has already passed the house I guess so I don't know where it is, but he had on the poster child of big pharma assholes. Uh, Martin Shkreli, the crazy guy who are favorite hold on stop step back. The mofo makes sense

2:25:10 And he's and I really yes, I remember. I said something about this guy I don't was going on but somewhere there's something underneath it that I think is good and this is about Orphan orphan pharmaceuticals orphan drugs And then actually, I was a Obama bot and after the divorce doesn't talk to me anymore. But I know a guy who was doing an orphan drug company and you raised like $20 million dollars and there's maybe only 700 people in the world who have this particular ailment but it's life saving for them. In his case he made that or be

2:25:48 And I guess the formula is known, but no drug company wants to touch it because just not worth it for him. So of course you make the drug and then has to be reasonably expensive, but people stay alive. It's a business So this guy, now I understand Scrully's business model who'll get into it is the orphan drug trade. Check it out You were at the bottom of a media dog pile hate fest It was like that short story The Lottery you were being stoned by the crowd so I'm sympathetic to that However! I have to say in cases like yours and your specifically where you have someone who takes a product he did not create added no apparent value to it and then jacks the price up it does seem kind of like a parasite move

2:26:27 Yeah, I mean you know it's interesting. These big drug companies they don't look at these drugs any more fondly than you look at the shoes in your closet that you haven't worn five years and ready to throw away They're old medicines that nobody cares about anymore and they get passed around from company to company looking for a home for tender love and care The reason they get passed around is because they're not Viagra or Lipitor They are not big sellers. These drugs sell almost nothing And it costs millions of dollars to make a medicine Even to make one drug I bought, the company stopped making it because worth it to them. Right? The 300 patients that needed this drug to survive, they didn't have anybody that actually wanted to make the pill for them just stamp out a pill and so we bought that drug we raised at 20-fold there was no media celebrity there was nobody knew who I was that day the day before or the day after it was only after...I've done this about six times and each time the patients thank me for doing it because they say

2:27:17 I'd rather have someone make a few dollars and make my pills reliably, maybe continue research in the field. Give grants out do the things that you need to do be a drug company because when i have this rare disease only few hundred people had my illness right it's I don't have the numbers of erectile dysfunction or cholesterol. I get that but if you raise at five thousand percent it seems a bit like a hostage situation It is still barely profitable and if you look at the amount people that have this illness and you add it all up, there are orphan drugs that are half a million a year. Every year forever! So you gotta pay drug company five million dollars to survive That's a hostage situation our pills $25,000 in if you take it for the amount of time You're supposed to take it that's pretty

2:27:55 Comparable or even a lot less than most of the drugs of its kind so I looked at it and said you know, I don't I don't listen to the media. I don't listen to politicians I was an irrationality in logic And i'm gonna price this drug where it belongs not where somebody tells me too Not where it's gonna look bad or right make me look good? And i'm going to serve these patients So where was this guy all that time here the guy is actually making some sense uh I could have been Set up and that is that was Corelli. That's Corelli I have two more short clips following up on this And this is leads into the price gouging of the pharmaceuticals He's actually turning into quite a poster child for it, you know The real evil and very its mind bending this so you like Trump? I think sir seem to on Twitter anyway But Trump is making a counter case really kind of against Jersey he did with Boeing the other day He said you know what we want him to make money but we don't wanna make too much money

2:28:49 Yeah, and I don't want to make too much money either. You know the Turing is a company that's across the street from here literally catty corner Its profit margins are very thin Pfizer raises the drug price of Viagra 13% last year 14 percent you're supposed to raise prices not to brag but I wouldn't know yeah You're supposed to raise prices in line with inflation to combat, you know inflationary forces That's why your salary maybe your salary goes up 10 percent a year But most people salaries goes up one or two percent a year because it's supposed to keep pace with inflation It doesn't make sense to me that Pfizer, who's gonna make what 10-20 billion dollars this year needs to raise the price of Viagra ten percent. I've got a hundred people catty corner from here barely making ends meet we were trying to make new drugs for rare diseases We need the money Boeing doesn't need the money Pfizer doesn't mean you need money? I started turning two years ago And we're doing groundbreaking research in five or six different diseases and I think it's okay for us to make a small profit Really

2:29:41 Really interested me how, uh... what he was saying here. And here it is finally the generics this is going to be big depending on how legislation goes. I think what Trump wants to do is pretty smart, you know he understands that pharma companies have been getting away with quite a nice gig raising drug prices and i think what he wants to do is encourage FDA to approve generics more quickly yes and the FDA has done a very bad job of that and uh... i think that if he can figure that out and i think he will he seems to be on top things there'll be a lot more competition in the drug marketplace wouldn't that undercut your business? Sure but part Part of being a business person is taking advantage of the playing field like a football game. And if they're throwing a blitz, I'm going to pass and vice versa." The situation in the play field was set up the way it was when I started my company and I do drug research if they were incentivize that would help me so depends on the situation. There you go Martin Shkreli, The Nut Job!

2:30:37 Well, I don't know. The whole thing seems fishy because he was playing a different role or something for sure. I'm not sure about that one thing not mentioned here in the generics thing which is a nice sounds good on paper but it reminds me of the provigil maker who didn't also went generic provigil this pep pills that don't have the effects of amphetamines It goes generic, and then the company that made it bought the company that makes the generic. And they keep the price the same. That's in that bill I was talking about there is specific language regarding pharmaceuticals who own the generics so they will not be able to price it the way they want it

2:31:25 Well, that's a little bit of I think from a pure capitalistic perspective. A little bit over regulations are on. I agree. These guys are acting like a bunch of douchebags anyway you need something to happen. All right? You want to hear the views take on what was going to happen with our health care Oh God. Come on, come on. It's a shorty it's a shorty. He is going to get a little more attention when people start opening their envelopes and seeing those letters about their insurance dropping now. For some reason they believe that the minute Trump is president then everyone's health care stops and then she's talking about oh people are getting envelopes they're already getting envelope she's saying just you know Trump is the President-elect and they're already getting envelopes

2:32:17 that your insurance is being cancelled. has her kid and doctor said no it's at all we're not gonna be able to cover you anymore so sorry and she said well I've got a little money I can do this. And they were like, no you have to sort of get this kind of coverage. Coverage that she can't afford. So this is going to be really interesting Donald! I can't wait till people start sending you their letters or tweets about that!

2:32:58 Well, it's hitting the fan that people are starting to get it. People are starting to get those emails and letters saying oh by the way you know we're not going to be taking care of this anymore because we basically don't have to and then she said something I don't know about so I'm gonna ask you no that's clear she said she thought She had read that they were losing the head of household uh... deduction taxes and tax deductions i don't know so we have to look that up because she said she wasn't right brother no not scared her yes you know how many hours trying to learn her skin as i was at the school these women don't know what they're talking about almost on the benefit for

2:33:36 uh, Ripples of Hope it's called. And there was so many smart people there and one smart person said... One smart person? Why don't you name who these smart people are Joy Behar! So many SMART PEOPLE! ...Hope it's called and there were so many smart people there and one smart person said... Probably he was probably black that sort version of racism. Smart- He was very smart that they think what's gonna really happen is the Republicans are going to turn on him because he's against big business a lot and they don't like that. And other things he's doing, they're not gonna be happy with him and he has enemies in the Republican party and Pence will eventually start doing the presidency What do you think about that? I mean it was just a guess Watch your uterus That's all i'm saying There ya go Watch your uterus She is obsessed with her vagina Apparently Obsessed I tell ya Get out of my vagina! Watch your uterus I mean she's obsessed

2:34:27 Yes, she's brought this up more than a few times. I'll say all right well i got something here that i think because people listen to this show they need occasional tips. Yes, we give them tips every once in a while this is a tip I think that people because i went to this website and I have to say it's kind of interesting luckily my...I don't have this problem about the airbag recall mm-hmm and I luckily my 23 year old Lexus which their bag probably just go pfft opens but at least it's not a bad one. But listen to this, this is good tip This is the airbag recall tip Now you're sure this is just the tip? Nothing more because... You promised just the tip It's just the tip I'm seeing blood all over my shirt and I thought I was going to bleed to death Tonight the airbag maker Takata tells NBC News that has ramped up production and capacity of airbag replacement kits to meet demand

2:35:26 To find out if your airbag is under recall, your vehicle under recall. Find your vehicle identification number right there on the dashboard then go to safercar.gov. Safer car dot gov type that in the recall should show up and your priority number should also appear And safercar.gov is an entertaining site, it probably costs $100 million to develop but actually it's worth going to I would recommend everyone doing that. I have a clip that I've been stalling, I've been putting it off. And it's a clip about something that is not reported. Guy just... John Pilger guy wrote a book about this and it has not been reported but when he outlines what we're...what he's gonna talk about here

2:36:18 It becomes pretty apparent and we've kind of talked about this on the show. Who is John Pilger? He's a writer that you know, that has researches our policies toward China and elsewhere right And this is actually quite interesting. Artis Afshin Ratanzee discussed this with award-winning journalist and filmmaker John Pilger while they were talking about his new film The Coming War on China There are 400 US bases encircling China. They start in Australia, they go through the Pacific, they go up through Japan, Korea across Eurasia It's like a giant noose around China Missiles warships low draft warships which can approach China just outside Chinese waters The provocation

2:37:07 China that has gone on in the last five six years has been extreme. It is extraordinary, it's not only a blockade to blackout apart from you and I discussing it and here and there in the media. The blackout of of this situation around China has been almost total. The news, the perception that we're given where we're not allowed to know these important and very disturbing events you have the biggest build-up of US air and naval forces since the Second World War. That's an extraordinary story that has simply been suppressed, but another blackout has been on the biggest military exercise in living memory and that was Operation Talisman Sabre which the U.S., last year 2015, the U.S led and in which they rehearsed the blockade of the Straits of Malacca

2:38:04 through which come 80% of China's oil, its resources. It's much of its trade and so on So this constant provocation is really what that rather innocuous term pivot to Asia that Obama announced in 2011 really means Hey holy crap! Remember when that Malaysian air flight went down and all of a sudden we had our warships in the Straits of Malacca? Yeah, that was around the same time that he's talking about. Oh man we nailed it! Well now you're there but this also refers back to the front line story with the Marine woman who joins the Marines and they're talking about frontline combat I mean why are we gearing up? What are we gonna do with China here this is ridiculous?! I don't know but we better be friends with the Russians you don't want the Russian being friends with the Chinese if we're being

2:39:00 That's actually an old thesis. It is to keep those two from ganging up, because then you got problems. My goodness. They share a common border and seem to be in dispute constantly. I'm just going to put my hands over my ears. La la la la la! Very very disappointed. It's very disappointing all of this very very can't tell you how to live in things up with that clip yeah, thanks Alright I have a clip here two clips and then I'm done first this is Fareed Zakaria he used

2:39:39 pontificating on President Obama's big Homeland Security speech about how we're doing and all of a sudden people are able to put things into perspective the way it has never done before. The big difference is I think that in that speech yesterday, Obama emphasized this really important to put ISIS and terrorism in context. It is not an existential threat to the United States, the number of people it has been able to kill over the last decade has been trivial he often points out more Americans drown in their bathtubs every year than are killed by you know international terrorists And so don't overreact Don't shred the Constitution, don't sacrifice civil liberties because

2:40:22 This is a manageable threat. That piece, I think he and Trump... You know he's Mr Under Reaction and Trump is Mr Overreacted. I mean for eight years we've been terrorized by our own government about terrorists. Fuck it! For 15-16 years We've been taking our shoes off. Are you kidding me? And now just put into perspective more people die in their bathtub More people now die from heroin than from guns By the way, yeah by the best point of last number that best point of Thursday show Was the real gateway is oxy as a great point John great point. Anyway, it's a gateway drug kind of to wrap up the The anger and the other dimension that we've discussed here is the progressive caucus It's a compilation the progressive caucus and you will hear in order of appearance Let me see

2:41:22 of has appointed is the greatest collection of stooges and cronies and misfits we have ever seen in a presidential administration. Some of these folks' only qualifications for the job that they are being appointed for is that they have attempted to dismantle and undermine and destroy the very agencies that they are now hoping to run. We cannot, as we are not doing this morning...we cannot sit back! Have you ever seen this woman? Delauro from Connecticut? I don't know maybe. She looks like a middle-aged social justice warrior. I've probably seen her on some committee. Oh I mean if i had to have dinner with her I just want to punch

2:42:27 just that's not nice it's not nice at all that's why i don't go out anymore hoping to run we cannot as we are not doing this morning we cannot sit back we need to stand up for the millions of children for working families and for the seniors who are going to be personally harmed by these irresponsible appointments. It is not just a responsibility, but it is a moral responsibility that we stand up and fight. And that's what the progressive caucus is intending to do." So Donald Trump has been as it has been mentioned has already been breaking his campaign promises and rather than draining the swamp he is now filling it out with hungry crocodiles. Mr. Trump

2:43:14 cease and desist, and begin to solicit people that will in fact reflect the laws of this nation. There you go. Geez! I know. Four-star generals? Okay... That's what they see it as. Hey shut up slave. Very very disappointing. Shut up slave. Exactly all right you had the 10 minute warning you can wrap it up if you wish sir Well, let's see. I had the good clip there. I have a funny clip that's got a button Aleppo is interesting because it's finally caving in and then we don't know what to do about it. Have some clips I can play on Thursday. There's a crazy report on... Okay here's one this will be a good way to finish it up this is the stupidity of the Portland City Council

2:44:03 which now, well the report says it all but I will mention in advance that I've done some research on the various cities because I was researching some. There's no real reason why I was doing this but I was looking at all of these cities and how broke they are or not broke. And think this has to do with the bond collapse. Sometimes I'm looking into what kind of city is not gonna make it through? There are three cities maybe more but there's three I know of that are literally broke completely broke right now. You can't balance the books with or without the unfunded liabilities for pensions, with or without? This is what we talked about as possibly triggering the bond market collapse. Yeah, that bond market collapse which will take place in June or July of this year probably. Write it down people! And anyway so these cities without even counting this did they unfunded liabilities Flint Michigan

2:45:01 Detroit, and Portland Oregon. They're broke, but here's what they're going to do. This is a very smart move I guess to get out from under really drive all the corporations out and heres how they are going to do it. Portland City Council has voted to impose additional taxes on companies whose CEOs earn more than 100 times the median pay of their workers The Oregon measure which Portland officials say is first in the nation targets an penalizes companies that perpetuate income inequality Portland Mayor Charlie Hale said quote, income inequality is real. It's a national problem and the federal government isn't doing anything about it unquote. Yeah the federal government is not doing anything about it they're not supposed to do anything about it but that's okay yeah good luck Portland! That's not the world we live in John...it's got to be fair you'll be fair don't be unfair

2:46:03 I don't know man. I grew up with sticks and stones, break my bones but names never hurt me and life is unfair Adam! Okay mom. Mom Yeah, that's my mom. Get back to work stay in the kitchen If you don- I will spank you with a hairbrush bristle side down. I got that one down. That actually probably better yeah Anyway thank you all so much for participating in the program especially chat room very handy today very good And remember us for Thursday show at Dvorak org slash na. Yeah, so I got nothing

2:46:42 Crappy weather. It's just a slow, easy Sunday. Coming to you from the skyscraper here at the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin Texas, the capital of the drone star state FEMA Region 6 on The Governmental Maps In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say woman who idolized well-dressed banker have vested interest. I am John C. Dvorak We will return on Thursday right here no agenda Adios, mofos! It's time for these isolated know-it-alls in the Silicon Valley, Google and Facebook to like get this stuff together. They hallucinated words meaning something other than what they appeared to mean. Something other than what they appeared to mean. They appeared to mean... Isolated know it alls. Know it alls. Know it gets stuck together. They know its not true.

2:47:58 I think either way is really disturbing. They hallucinated or meaning something appeared to mean something other than me. I think either way is really disturbing. This time it means isolated know-it-alls in the Silicon Valley at Google and Facebook to like get this stuff together, but they know its not true and they're just trying to stir up a ruckus. I think either way is really disturbing Get out of here!

2:48:45 behind us. by the decreasing clouds of course there comes the chance of succumbers and survivors and some hate speech, the hate crimes that are none of this is normal we are tentative critical. We do normalize or sanic or Sarah Cloud's increasing with those increasing clouds of waste juice that are spiking Trump or states and gapping used to hit Lee. None of this is normal.

2:49:29 You see it with those increasing clouds of course, there are clouds increasing and with those you see it with those sinks in clouds and clouds none of the none. It would be new immigration And I love the hate speech to hate crimes that he do not need normal or stay by discussion With those increasing clouds Of course here comes the chance that you can and I want people to remain vigilant that is those increasing clouds Of course air comes the chances for showers and some rain trying to have a discussion that you did and I was the cause of core come sister one I think that it's very not normal. None of the hate speech, the hate crimes that are spiking. Watch your uterus! Adam Curry is here with Max Keiser and Max rarely comes to Awesome or Flattered Avenue

2:50:05 Go to noagendashow.com This is the epic battle that's taking place It's mainstream media, just like the record business For years denied, denied, denied Now you sell 2 thousand records in your top 10 billboard That's how bad it is Wow! Really? It's THAT bad Wow I can put out an album and sell a hundred thousand You could flatten the status! Alex Jones Christmas Records I would definitely buy this Amen. Fist bump!

2:50:58 Adios, mofo.