Episode 869 · Sunday, 16 October 2016

Swamp of Crazy

Washington enters a fever dream of cyber warfare threats and leaked emails as the intelligence community targets the Kremlin while the Clinton campaign faces fresh corruption allegations.

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The CIA is preparing a clandestine cyber retaliation against Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin leadership following reports of Russian interference in the 2016 election. NBC News claims Langley super-hackers intend to manipulate the personal bank accounts of Russian oligarchs, while Vice President Joe Biden confirmed the White House is sending a message to Moscow. This escalation follows allegations of malware probes in Arizona voter databases and a public dismissal of the claims by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

WikiLeaks documents reveal that Donna Brazile leaked CNN town hall questions to the Hillary Clinton campaign, prompting anchor Jake Tapper to label the breach of ethics as horrifying. Meanwhile, former Haitian Senate President Bernard Sansaricq alleges the Clinton Foundation mishandled over 14 billion dollars in earthquake relief funds. In the domestic race, Donald Trump has challenged Clinton to a drug test before their final debate, as media outlets like CBS and ABC pivot to sexual misconduct allegations involving the Access Hollywood tape and Billy Bush.

President Barack Obama called for a new curating function to police the wild west of internet information during the Frontiers Conference. Google has already responded by launching a fact-check tag powered by the Poynter Institute and Pierre Omidyar. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down these developments from Austin and Silicon Valley, questioning the sudden appearance of climate change propaganda in scripted dramas like The Blacklist and the rise of bias response teams on university campuses.


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CHAPTER 01 / 32 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 869 Introduction, Austin and Silicon Valley

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 869 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley on October 16, 2016. Curry describes a persistent cough he developed after visiting New York City, which he attributes to reports of Zika larvicide spraying on the East Coast. Dvorak mocks Donald Trump's sniffing during debates while the pair prepares to monitor the "Ministry of Truth."

adam curry· john c dvorak· austin· silicon valley· fema region 6· zika· larvicide

00:00 We're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. We're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're going to do that. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday October 16 2016 This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 869 This is no agenda Monitoring the Ministry of Truth, guarding your reality and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Tejas. FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Confucius say men who eat at smorgasbord like time machine able to go back four seconds. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Mornin'! Eh... They've been better

00:40 I like that one. Ah, yes you would Confucius Confucius say whenever you start that just hear the whole audience going All right in the morning to ya how are you doing? I'm sure their ears perk up Yeah probably it was a little long this need be a tad shorter so you fit in the music I think that's the only problem now I can do that okay That was a long when that was a two-liner Well, well, well Mr. Dvorak Hey! Before I say anything... ...I went to a sports event yesterday A sporting event Did you? Yeah? Yeah Uh, can I guess what it was? Heh yeah Girls lacrosse Close Field hockey No no Pro disc golfing Oh god Ha ha ha

01:33 I will let me just tell you the background. There's this, that thing is the Waterloo club every year they do a competition at the Hancock golf club in Austin and they raise $10,000 every year for the Ronald McDonald house so of course Tina had to be there too You're there when they're gonna hand out that huge check. So I went along big giant check a big giant check of course They needed an hour or what did that put that check in and move it? Well the truck Tina has her own She brings she brings in energy, and you know pulls it out here we go But it was really interesting because it's I never I guess had heard of it but I'd never really seen it And you think this is dumb

02:20 But it's actually pretty interesting to watch, I have to say. Yeah, well I used to be a good frisbee player. Well it's not Frisbee please say disc disc disc disc. That is because frisbee is a copyrighted term. Oh you're probably right yeah Wham-O! Wham-o owned the uh... The Frisbee I guess. They own that name Frisbee there are other people that make those discs but they just can't call them Frisbees. Anyways and the guys that do this very interesting It's like I think there's a lot of... I'm sure. Well, you know there's lawyers accountants and but vets and they're all wearing like tie-dye and you know camo kilts Hey man can i bring my whip in? No no no there was no one like that it was pretty it was not uninteresting to say the least. I liked it! I enjoyed it had a good time ah you got the cough good I'm happy to hear that

03:18 Yeah, you got me going. So what happened is this cough that I have now that's the residual you can still hear I'm a little congested it is almost like a death rattle and every hour at least every hour I have to just cough and trying to bring up whatever the heck is in my lungs And I've received messages from multiple producers on the East Coast who say that this exact cough which lasts about a month has been rampant on the East Coas since they've been spraying for Zika larvicide. Oh! Yeah, and the last time they sprayed that weekend we were in New York City and that's when I picked this up. Huh... could be

04:00 Yeah, and it's called the thing doctor saying oh you have the thing I like this is what is this trips disease please? I don't want to hear about this but it's it's peculiar Very big. Oh yeah, I heard your sniff. Yeah well That's an actual sniff John that's not the Tourette's But are you now trying to end up there you're trying to catch me on the Tourettes Is that what you do in here no okay? No? I just heard your sniff Like Donald Trump Please Alright, well we got the big debate coming up on Wednesday. Yeah we do I want to know if Donald Trump actually you know clears his head so he's not sniveling the whole time It's not pleasant No

CHAPTER 02 / 32 Discussion

Donald Trump, Drug Test Challenges and Sexual Misconduct Allegations

Donald Trump challenged Hillary Clinton to a drug test prior to their final debate, claiming she appeared "pumped up" at the start of previous encounters. Media outlets including CBS and ABC News reported on a wave of sexual misconduct allegations against Trump, including specific claims of "genital thrusting" at a nightclub. Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign remains focused on the ongoing John Podesta email leaks from WikiLeaks, which the hosts suggest are gaining more public interest than the Trump scandals.

donald trump· hillary clinton· drug test· sexual misconduct· wikileaks· john podesta· abc news

04:47 Where are you going with this? I could go all kinds of different directions. We can talk, we can do a little get the Trump stuff out of the way. There is a very good...I got a very good, I call it, I think it's called humorous clip of that. It's the rundown and I think its on CBS This is the Trump Clinton funny update. This is right up to date, this was from yesterday. Okay and what channel? What network? I believe this is CBS. It's 24 days away and Donald Trump fighting off a wave of sexual misconduct allegations. Trump issued a new challenge on Saturday suggesting that he and Hillary Clinton submit to drug tests before their final debate. Errol Barnett has the campaigns covered

05:26 She's getting pumped up for Wednesday night. Donald Trump was delivering a speech on opioid abuse in New Hampshire Saturday when he veered into a new line of attack on Hillary Clinton, suggesting they take drug tests before the next debate At the beginning of her last debate she was all pumped up at the beginning and at the end it was like oh take me down she could barely reach your car So I think we should take a drug test. Trump continues to blame the media for trying to influence the election The election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing completely false allegations and outright lies

06:08 In an effort to elect her president. In the past week, at least six women have stepped forward claiming to have been sexually assaulted by Trump. Two more just yesterday. This is the vivid part for me. One described an alleged incident at a nightclub in New York. He did touch my vagina through my underwear. Absolutely. The other, a former contestant on the Apprentice alleged an encounter in Los Angeles. I pushed his chest to put space between us and then said come on man get real he repeated my words back to me Get Real as we began thrusting his genitals Trump denies any misdeeds. He stepped on the end there. Then apparently he's doing that thrusting thing you know the Duff beer guy does

07:00 No, that's what she said. So can you imagine you're in a bar? Okay The guy is doing that pelvis thrusts on me here to get no as he began thrusting his genitals Trump denies any wrongdoing in just about all cases it's nonsense its false Meanwhile Hillary Clinton can top stops up Did you notice that he said in about this is a too funny nobody says anything about this stuff in just About all cases. Yeah, just about it's just about all cases. Let me listen to again This is good John like this and just about all cases its nonsense as false Oh boy No one no one picked that up huh? Nobody picks it out

07:51 Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton continues to be dogged by document dumps from WikiLeaks. The group published more emails Friday claiming they'd been hacked from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta One round of email shows campaign staffers urged Bill Clinton to cancel a speech he planned to give to Morgan Stanley executives Staffers were concerned the Clintons might appear too cozy with Wall Street Yeah That was hardly the best thing in there. They pick a lame one! Oh, if we've cracked these emails and somebody suggested that Clinton not give a speech. That's not the good one or any of even close." No in fact there are so many emails coming out now and of course we're trying to read as much as we can so you don't have too but I'm not even putting them under one heading anymore it's just that they go at each goes into a category that's existing and this is just...there is a lot of good stuff coming out here

08:49 And I have to say, if you look at what the plan was and we heard Donald Trump himself say in most of these cases it's not true. Damn! Okay... That's pleading not the fifth but the four-and-a-half. I don't know what that is. It's very dumb and probably true But I think they've overdone it. They went too fast with up to 100 women, is that where we're at now? It just boom-boom and people are getting tired of it. The audience... I wonder if there was a Craigslist ad for this. Well, I know that ABC is calling up every single contestant

09:29 ABC News, that was ever on a Trump pageant. They're calling every single woman systematically individually and I'm sure they're going to find more but even if you look at the Google trends...I put in the show notes search trends...Trump sexism groping touching all that stuff is pretty consistent on the Google searches what is up consistently as WikiLeaks I think the public is getting very tired of it. It's kind of...it's short-sighted if they want to run this guy out of town with this, either they have to continue this every single day with an even crazier allegation which may happen. That could happen? Yeah! I think they may just... I like that pelvis thrusting or as she put it genital thrusting Genital thrusting yeah thats what Lenny Kravitz calls it too. Im going to genital thrust on stage tonight

CHAPTER 03 / 32 Discussion

Chris Hayes, Globalist Tropes and Anti-Semitism Accusations

MSNBC host Chris Hayes argued that Donald Trump's rhetoric regarding "global cabals" and international banks utilizes long-standing anti-Semitic tropes. A guest on the program challenged Hayes, questioning if criticizing media and banking is inherently a "dog whistle" for Jew-hatred. The discussion references "Brother Nathaniel," a Jewish-born convert to Orthodox Christianity on YouTube, as a potential source for these rhetorical frameworks.

chris hayes· msnbc· anti-semitism· globalism· brother nathaniel· international banks· dog whistle

10:27 But there was another one that came up which I liked a lot. This is totally coming from MSNBC or the NBC family, which you had some good comments about in the newsletter. It's...I won't play the opening where he said it but his Chris Hayes on MSNBC goes to his guest and the guest takes issue with something that Chris Hayes said at the opening of his show, the opening of this segment about Donald Trump. You know Chris listen I will address your question but first have to address You said in your polemic, in your introduction that there's an anti-Semitism and I have to address this because I couldn't disagree more strenuously with you. Are you saying that Donald Trump can't criticize the media and can't criticize international banks without being accused of some sort of dog whistle of anti-semitism? What I said was it drew on longstanding antisemitic tropes. The global cabal

11:20 of There is more than a passing similarity between that conceptual area and what he talked about today, yes. Now this- Big intellectual hotshot. But wait, but wait, this is bigger than Trump you gotta... Here's what's going on if you say someone's a globalist You're a Jew hater! Exactly And we've talked about this for nine years now of course it's banking system It's the media

12:06 But when you say that, you're saying Jews. And that's the media who is actually pushing back on that there's no room for conversation It's only oh I can reach from the protocol of the elders of Zion Okay, like these? I think I think this is but they're gonna they're gonna keep pushing that they're gonna keep well They gotta find every angle they can to get this to work uh-huh There was this guy he's a good people. I don't know if there's a Jew hater on the on them YouTube. Really? Just one? There's a Jew here on YouTube who is a Jew, he's kind of a self-loathing Jew who has become a converted priest in the Orthodox Christian Eastern Orthodox

12:58 and he is... Oh, wait. This the guy with the hat? I know who you mean. Brother Nathaniel? Brother Nathaniel! Yes, I've watched brother Nathaniel a lot sure. Brother Nathaniel is as entertaining as... Manning! As Manning! As Manning this was yes He's just entertaining his manning and this is his thesis He has this kind of...what Chris Hayes said is kinda based on reverse engineering Brother Nathaniel. That's the way I see it, so in other words-so I'm guessing and making the accusation that Chris Hayes, the defender of all things Israel Actually watches Brother Nathaniel. I'm sure he does! Of course, what else is he gonna do in his spare time? Review his script? Yeah... No, no, I don't think so. I thought it was pretty funny

13:47 It's very, it's sick actually. This is just a continuing effort to stop all discourse give ourselves give our country away to the global interests and the bankers and just give up that's what these guys are all saying hey Hillary is going to be president she's gonna be all in on this yeah Yeah and there's a lot to back up what you just said Maybe we should look at the problem with the WikiLeaks is that a lot of the WikiLeaks is pretty much saying there's collusion with the media.

CHAPTER 04 / 32 Discussion

NBC Blacklist, Climate Change Propaganda and Lear Foundation

NBC's scripted drama "The Blacklist" is accused of inserting climate change propaganda into its dialogue at the behest of the Lear Foundation. A specific scene is analyzed where a character mentions Bramble Cay being submerged by rising sea levels, a detail that has no relevance to the show's primary plot. The hosts argue this is a deliberate attempt by the network to normalize globalist narratives through entertainment.

nbc· the blacklist· climate change· bramble cay· eco-terrorist· lear foundation· propaganda

14:27 And it makes it very hard for the media to actually do anything with it. Exactly, exactly! So they don't even talk about it? So let's talk for a moment about... because I caught this and this was pretty fun and I have a couple other... well actually why don't you tell us what you wrote in the newsletter for those who didn't read it because you have a big thing as well I think about NBC Yeah, I did an NBC...NBC is a globalist operation that's just a pure arm of the...what it was? I had to point to make at the beginning. I had to look at the newsletters. Well you said there was this huge campaign that NBC some anti-Trump thing that was coming and you were going to reveal that on today's program

15:10 And what I said, I was going to reveal is that I had a clip. Yeah exactly. That shows how NBC is all in and it's been written by the Lear Foundation. Yes that's the clip I'm alluding to yes Well I have this clip uh...that I promised to play This is from The Blacklist So we have a segment of the blacklist this right at the beginning of the premise that has nothing to do with moving The plot forward I'm just showing how NBC is complicit in this whole situation NBC's really III know see, you know We complained about CBS but NBC is really the bad actor here. Right? All right And this is an example of the, obviously the Lear folks or somebody coming in and giving you some lines to read that have nothing to do with the story. It doesn't have anything to do with a big arc, the long arc where he's trying to get this baby back which has turned into a soap opera? This got nothing to do with the story at the moment, it's got nothing to do with anything but let's just have a listen to how you slip stuff in as though it was just matter-of-fact fact

16:16 Debbae said you had a lead on Agnes. Some years ago, I had a rather awkward encounter with a bull shark while diving off the Great Barrier Reef I actually think it was trying to be affectionate, even a little forward. And that result was excruciating but i did spend the glorious month submitting to the healing hands of an utterly divine lighthouse keeper on Bramble Cay, a low-lying island that's rapidly being submerged by rising sea levels due to climate change Climate change. Our next blacklister is devoted to protecting the Earth from the greatest threat to its existence as we know it, us! He's a stealth eco-terrorist known only as Gaia, Earth Mother in Greek mythology Okay so... The connection between this earth mother and Agnes is what? What is not relevant Only where

17:14 We must find this man unless you have a better lead on the perk as he reached out to you Should've been cut off at the end there Yeah, it's got nothing to do with anything. No just throw it in just throw it into so the public hears and go yeah Yeah, rising tides yes right oh yeah everything has nothing to do which has nothing to do with erosion of sand That's being used for building but okay It's just rising tide, rising sea level. I can see by the way the mudflats are still present The ones that were there in 1880... outside my window! They're still there. I have a couple other clips A little more geared towards Donald Trump But i believe there is actually some series Maybe it's uh... I forget what it is but they have the crazy guy The crazy actor who will be a version of Trump In an episode

CHAPTER 05 / 32 Discussion

Media Satire, Will & Grace and The Simpsons Election Coverage

Recent episodes of "Will & Grace" and "The Simpsons" are criticized for using satire to influence voters toward Hillary Clinton. "Will & Grace" characters used derogatory language to describe gay Trump supporters, while "The Simpsons" featured a skit where Vladimir Putin hacks a voting booth in a swing state to ensure a Trump victory. The hosts view these segments as overt political propaganda rather than mere comedy.

will & grace· the simpsons· vladimir putin· donald trump· hillary clinton· swing states· propaganda

18:08 Who's the crazy? Nick Nolte. Nick Nolte is going to play Trump, yeah it's an episode I forget what it is this is the one of this again in NBC yes of course it is and this show is Law & Order SVU I think or Special Victims Unit yeah here we have a very propagandistic show so Will & Grace is back on television everyone was very excited particularly that ladies love The Will & Grace Nothing like women in their BFF gay boys and of course you know they with their typical humor They are also of course telling you what to do You're voting for Hillary right? Of course he is don't pigeonhole me not all gays think alike

18:50 one of those weird fags that was on the Trump train? Interesting how it's okay to say fag now. I don't know how that happened Yeah, if you're a weird fag on the Trump train... yeah oh yeah! If you're a weird fag in the Trump Train its okay to say fag Fags that was on the Trump train?! I didn't say I was voting for him either, Kara Who are you voting for? I don't know, Grace. Honey if you don't vote for Trumpy there will be wars and monsoons and locusts and hordes of brown people pouring over our borders from every direction! It's one thing if your sitting in the audience at Hamilton but do you really want to see those people? Pretty unbelievable... If you vote for Trump you hate brown people

19:38 And apparently also the African-Americans in Hamilton. I don't know how she made that connection. Then we have The Simpsons. So, who are you voting for? The candidate who forgave her husband no matter what he did! Not the guy who really likes his daughter... Hey, I like this Trump fellow. Good businessman never sleeps doesn't pay his taxes legally Those are impressive but i can't trust this country to someone who's gone bankrupt six times that's two more than me But the orange man he will build a wall to keep out beauty queens who eat too much Plus he has a plan to make Russia great again

20:22 Russia? Hey, wait a minute! You... you... I sent me a pacoid this the moose ye... Vladimir Putin president of Russia?! Yep. On the list Go ahead and vote Hey, what about me? Not on the list! You have to let me vote. This is a swing state My votes worth more than 1 million Californians Don't worry my hackers will get you in Doesn't matter Trump is winning 102% Business is business There ya go Alright Wow America Media A little early to give you clip of the day but I never didn't catch that one

CHAPTER 06 / 32 Discussion

Donna Brazile, CNN Debate Question Leak and Jake Tapper

WikiLeaks emails revealed that Donna Brazile obtained a town hall question regarding the death penalty and shared it with the Clinton campaign. CNN anchor Jake Tapper distanced himself and the network from the leak, suggesting the question originated from Roland Martin or someone associated with TV One. Tapper described the breach of the "cone of silence" as "horrifying" and "unethical."

donna brazile· jake tapper· cnn· roland martin· wikileaks· town hall· death penalty

21:01 Does that mean I get it? Yeah, you get it. That's a good one. All right so we could go into the Russian hacking stuff but I'd like to just stick on the media for a moment because of so many stories involving the media one of course that is the most egregious is that Donna Brazil according to the WikiLeaks emails came across a question that will be asked in the town hall, one of the debates. One which Jake Tapper in fact was co-hosting and you know the media can never... I mean Jake Tapper, they just don't do this on their own channel so he was interviewed by WMAL, I guess that's a Washington DC station radio station

21:49 asking about what happened. And for one thing, Jake wants you to know really clearly that he had nothing to do with it! Nothing! CNN is not their fault either really... Let's listen. from an email that Roland Martin had sent around, who was one of the moderators of that very debate. It's a town hall not a debate but yeah it is very troubling Look, I have tremendous regard for Donna Brazile and she's a good person and nice person. And I like her a lot but the action whatever took place here and i know that I had nothing to do with it and I know that CNN

22:40 we were so closely guarding are document of the what you could even they weren't ever emailed around and this was a file i think that would be follow-up question the role in martin was going to ask theoretically cnn had found a a free president somebody who had been on death row but because of the innocence project have been taken off the better i believe it in the tricky jackson if i'm gonna run apologize uh... and we know we wanted to put her in a tough situation here you support the death penalty for somebody who was almost killed um... on that because of the death penalty what's what your reaction to him uh... and we thought that there was great and then to find out that somebody was unethically

23:22 Helping the Clinton campaign tipping them off is just very very upsetting I have to follow up on that and that is that somebody works. I would assume for CNN Is there any kind of investigation ongoing? How is it possible could've happened? Well, you're talking about you're saying that person was Donna Brazile well, but somehow Donna Brazile got a hold of the question how did she get it I believe that, look. I don't know for 100%. All...I know that I had nothing to do with it. My understanding is there has been a...that the email to Donna came from either Roland Martin or someone around Roland Martin who was not with CNN he's with a different channel He's with TV One or something like that Like he doesn't know? Something like...I dunno some other jabronis who were around He had partnered with

24:13 for that town hall and this was not one of CNN's questions. This was Roland Martin, a Roland Martin follow-up so my understanding is... I see. That he or his somebody on his team got that question to donna brazil it was not part of the cnn with a question one and what's what i think that most but i'm not going on a planet look at the horrifying realistically terrifying absolutely and i'm sure will have an impact on partnering with uh... with this organization in the future and i'm sure that um... they'll have an effect on dot overville is no longer looking into she's had a dvd right now so i'm sure we'll have some impact on

24:58 As a reward. Events whether a debate or a town hall. We have a cone of silence Get smart, that's the one they got the cone of silence It's it's it's 60s technology but documents get shredded we do not email them around believe me was really annoying I was doing the Town Hall with Obama two weeks ago and I was on the road for A lot of days before that and they would not email me questions because they do not, because of fears of hacking, because fears are leaking. There is people at CNN take it very very seriously and to have somebody who does not take it seriously to have us partner with that person and then they do something completely unethical and share it with Donna Brazile who then shares it with the Clinton campaign... It's horrifying and very very upsetting. I mean I can't condemn it any more than

CHAPTER 07 / 32 Discussion

Media Bias, Mike Pence and Haiti Reconstruction Contracts

Vice Presidential candidate Mike Pence faced aggressive questioning on CBS and NBC regarding Donald Trump's sexual misconduct allegations. Pence attempted to pivot to "hard evidence" of the Clinton Foundation giving preferential treatment to "Friends of Bill" for reconstruction contracts in Haiti. Media moderators, including Savannah Guthrie, are accused of using identical talking points to shut down discussion of Clinton-related scandals.

mike pence· savannah guthrie· charlie rose· clinton foundation· haiti· preferential treatment· tim kaine

25:58 In no uncertain terms, it's awful. Went on both CBS this morning and NBC Today show and tried to bring this up And it's interesting to hear the identical rebuttal from both morning teams these kind of this is CBS This morning with Charlie Rose unsubstantiated claims being given so much focus in the media at the time We have hard evidence flowing out of The Clinton Foundation, The Clinton years. we had evidence this week in fact

26:41 that while she was Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton and her aides actually gave preferential treatment to the Friends of the Clintons for reconstruction contracts in Haiti. We would like to ask all those questions about it. That receives very little attention and these unsubstantiated claims are dominating the news. But we have Donald Trump running mate here this morning The Friends of the Clintons were given preferential treatment for contracts for the reconstruction Haiti after an earthquake that's that's kind of heaven I want to let my colleagues have a chance here time I wanted much college to have a chance clearly these are important issues and we'd like To raise them with her and her running mate, but we have you hear this morning. Okay? So this is different like we have you and I had the same clip I Have the pence clip on today show you probably better version for this angle yeah, and the

27:24 It's exactly the play it and you'll see it's exactly the same day. It was do well if she was here We'd ask her that question very snotty, and it's and it's identical so they got talking points Oh yeah, oh yeah warning Here's what you're gonna hear from this guy is loser pants And here's what you say to him keep them on target Keep my track about Trump and then his and his groping yes He's what you do with all due respect astonishing to see the enormous coverage of of these, you know, unfounded allegations. Unestablished allegations compared to an avalanche of emails coming out of Hillary Clinton's years as Secretary of State and now we see hard evidence not unsubstantiated allegations but hard evidence that took place We have covered that story with respect if she were here or Tim Kaine were here we'd be asking her your answer both for your campaign their answerable

28:19 for their campaign. Yeah, so shut up and answer my question or waterboard you! If you've listened to Tim Kaine, all he does is turn it back on Trump. He has nothing to say about anything except oh Trump's a douchebag! But I don't see anyone calling him out like Savannah did there Savannah is very she's very stern Yeah, very stern I tell ya Oh yeah Actually I think I have a...I think I have a Kane clip Let me see yes I don't want to jump ahead just one minute because that gets into the email server, but first since Pence mentioned Haiti and where all the money went with the Clinton Foundation. That guy who we played a clip from a few weeks ago, the former Senate President of Haiti Bernard Sancirek, I think?

CHAPTER 08 / 32 Discussion

Bernard Sansaricq, Clinton Foundation Haiti Corruption and Billy Bush

Former Haitian Senate President Bernard Sansaricq alleged on Fox Business that the Clinton Foundation mishandled $14.3 billion in earthquake relief funds, with less than 2% reaching the Haitian people. The discussion also touches on the firing of Billy Bush from NBC following the "Access Hollywood" tape leak. The hosts speculate that the Bushes and Clintons may have a private feud, or that Billy Bush is being used as a temporary scapegoat.

bernard sansaricq· haiti· bill clinton· clinton foundation· billy bush· nbc· pay for play

29:14 He was on Fox Business News. We have a lot of interesting guests, and he kind of rolled it out again... In 2010 we had an earthquake that killed 315 thousand people That's really a deadly earthquake And millions were left without shelter President Obama named Bill Clinton as the one who should be in charge of the reconstruction of Haiti And in that process, the Clinton Foundation through U.S. taxpayers' money and people giving money worldwide to the Clinton Foundation for relief effort to Haiti

29:53 contributed about fourteen point three billion dollars we're talking about billion dollars and the haitian people has not seen that even two percent of that money to nothing was done in haiti they were given those contract they were given millions of dollars from that money and nothing was actually donnie in haiti uh... he just like anything that we can have done is pay for play and they control Haiti, and they have been controlling Haiti since 1994 when they invaded Haiti. I mean what the Clinton have done in Haiti is unbelievable! And the American people should know about it.

30:37 Well, the American people don't know. No and they probably will never really know about it. Now let's go to Cain. I didn't even know how Bush got involved in this scam and ended up probably scarfing some cash. The Clintons work for Bush that's my thesis I have a different, it's funny you say that. The reason why I have a slightly different thesis is because there is a feud between those two groups and I think that's why for example in couple of shows They have made a huge thing about going after Billy Bush, the TV guy. Right who is related to the Bushes you didn't see yeah he's a nephew yes and there was once package I saw in one of the news shows where they had dredged up all kinds of just snide comments and off-the-cuff remarks that Billy Bush had made here in their on different programs to disparage the guy

31:36 And I'm watching this going, what's the point? The guy has lost his job. Yeah he is gonna sue and probably do okay by that but he is gonna get his influences done and I keep thinking this is a...and it's the Hillary folks doing this. Well- I think Bushes and the Clintons have a feud going on maybe George didn't get his cut like he was promised. Well yeah that would still mean that the Clintons are working for the Bushes if he is waiting for his cut in my book What I see, you know Billy Bush was already bragging about this tape in August and NBC had this thing for a year. And they decided the timing of course is everything it's either Billy Bush has taken one for the team or he's expendable He's really not important in the story from my book

32:26 No, but I just find that's...I feel the same way exactly. That's why I find it peculiar that they're bringing all this dredging stuff up about him just to make him look bad is just a...that brought to mind... Maybe maybe maybe maybe its to cover the obvious trail Say, oh well we'll just make it look Billy Bush. I'm going to make a prediction right now he will return to NBC that's my prediction Well you say that about everybody that ever worked at NBC No i don't You do! It never says that Brian Williams He will return to NBC

CHAPTER 09 / 32 Discussion

Barack Obama, Email Pseudonyms and Josh Earnest Briefing

WikiLeaks documents suggest President Barack Obama used a pseudonym to communicate with Hillary Clinton on her private email server. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest admitted Obama was aware of Clinton's email address but claimed the President did not know it was a private server until it was reported in the media. Tim Kaine defended the President, suggesting Obama likely didn't think about the technical setup of the emails he received.

barack obama· hillary clinton· pseudonym· josh earnest· private email server· wikileaks· executive privilege

33:04 All right, here's Kane. Because now of course we have a controversy brewing as we realized from the emails that there was a conversation about emails between Hillary Clinton and President Obama who used a pseudonym while emailing and they knew these emails were there they had a directive to hand over all emails and the discussion that we see in the WikiLeaks emails is, hmmm... well but we probably don't have to give these e-mails because the president can just claim executive privilege and so I will worry about that later. And that would imply that the president knew that Secretary Clinton had this email address and not only did he know it, I mean he was using some form of alias himself

33:52 Let's see what Cain has to say, vice presidential candidate for the Democrats. At the same time Senator he was using a pseudonym and an email address to communicate with Secretary Clinton And there is communication and there are emails from staff that suggest they wanted to hold that back and we're talking about what to do Did the president lie there? Well I don't know because if I actually do not know if he's communicating by email with Hillary, does he know that it is a private server? I mean i don't exactly know. If I send somebody an e-mail exactly what their setup is...I don't really think about that much and I can imagine the president with all that on his mind would either.

34:33 I mean, first of all, I'd like to know what Obama's pseudonym is. And is it a dot gov email address? We know that this got bleached bitted away. I'd love to know if the iPhone he uses just a regular e-mail account that he can use there something going on out there we may have known something about this. There must be something in the WikiLeaks now about I think all of you knew what his name was or something stupid. Don't know However, CBS repeatedly asked the president if he knew President Clinton or Secretary Clinton had a private email server. President Obama speaking out on 60 Minutes about Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy. Did you know about Hillary Clinton use of private email server? No While she was secretary of state? No Saying while it has been in his words ginned up for political gain

35:27 His former Secretary of State should have held herself to a higher standard. It is important for her to answer these questions, to the satisfaction of the American public and they can make their own judgment I can tell you that this is not a situation in which America's national security was endangered Okay so he saying hey we were just emailing about yoga class But of course that flies in the face She already explained it she made a mistake she proved she's human So of course this came up in the White House press briefing saying, wait a minute. If the president was emailing under a pseudonym and I'd love to know what the email address was at the pseudonym, the email address that's important. Was it .gov? And if you look at Hillary Clinton there's all kinds of... There's Hillary HRC office, there's Hillary Clinton email, there's a million different email addresses isn't it? There's tons of them. Yeah and I'm sure the president was full aware but okay so he lied fine it happens

36:23 Of course, the press did ask Josh Earnest about this. Yes, the president was aware of her email address he traded emails with her that shouldn't be a surprise at the President United States is going to trade emails with the Secretary of State But the President was not aware of the fact that this was a personal email server and that this was the email address she was using exclusively for all her business. The President was not aware until it had been more widely reported, but again, the President's commitment to the guidance we've offered employees of government to use official e-mail for official business

37:01 is one that is important and one that he himself follows. There you go! So of course he knew there was a different email address, he didn't know it was a private server... Okay yeah fine. Lies. Well you know if you're using these guys aren't very sharp when it comes to computer technology I mean that's why they think they can buffalo everyone in the world with this Russia crap. Or, I have this report that discusses how again you know this oh my god we're all gonna die try to play this cyber war Biden clip.

CHAPTER 10 / 32 Discussion

Russian Hacking, Arizona Voter Database and Cyber War Rhetoric

CBS News reported on alleged Russian hacking attempts against the Arizona voter database, initiated by a malware attachment opened in Gila County. Arizona Secretary of State Michelle Reagan called for federal military assistance, likening the cyber probing to a foreign invasion. The hosts argue that "scanning and probing" is normal internet activity and that the media is using these incidents to manufacture a narrative of a rigged election.

russian hackers· arizona· voter database· jeff pegues· fbi· michelle reagan· cyber attack

37:43 I would, you know. I'd love to play that clip as the last one in a series because i know what it is well let me just go on with my thoughts then because I can kind of lead up to it's funnier that way but go ahead there's a number of reports and they always do the same thing and I think they have another clip for it which goes on and on about the number of incidents that take place at Texas this is the one okay this is the clip Let's see if I have it. This is, excuse the word Arizona this is the Russian attack on Arizona. Okay. Russian hackers allegedly trying to break into the voting system here's justice and Homeland Security correspondent Jeff Pegues

38:23 The hacking attempt on Arizona's voter database started in rural Gila County when an elections worker opened an email attachment. Very scary stuff! Michelle Reagan, Arizona's Secretary of State says it was malware meant to attack these servers holding the voter information of 4 million people. We had a cyber security team in place... Reagan was alerted by the FBI experts believe the Russian government is to blame What was your initial reaction? Shock and dismay obviously because you never had a worry about foreign invaders coming in and trying to mess with our confidence in our election system. Arizona, Illinois Florida and nearly two dozen other states have seen similar scanning probing or breaches of their election systems the Russians have a different doctrine than we do for over a decade Jim Lewis has advised the US government on cyber attacks they're using information as a way

39:26 to achieve their political goals. They don't need the Red Army anymore, they have the internet. President Vladimir Putin and other... They don't need the army! They have the internet! This is how wars will be fought! If you back it up and listen that guy again because what he says is that oh they're using information we don't do that I guess. Listening this guy we don't do any of this because well I don't know maybe we're old-fashioned not sure President Vladimir Putin and other senior Russian officials have denied involvement, calling U.S. accusations nonsense. The biggest thing we were worried about was did they take any information? Reagan says she is confident the voter database wasn't compromised but she says the attacks continue.

40:11 In September alone, officials here say that there were 192 thousand intrusion attempts. About 11 thousand of them posed a serious threat. Reagan and 32 other secretaries of state have asked the Department of Homeland Security for help I liken it to when you're being invaded by Russia You don't call in your National Guard At some point you have to say You know, I need the army. Changing actual vote totals is difficult because voting machines are not connected to the internet. How did they jump to somebody nosing around in the database to changing vote totals? That is called mind control that is here's what's going on oh maybe this is happening

41:01 Because voting machines are not connected to the internet, but throwing confusion into an already contentious election That is a lot easier And that's what officials believe the Russians are trying to do now there was something in this report well Just before you go on off this topic. I'm staying on the topic Yes when I mentioned a couple of things that were reported just woman as an idiot let's start with that okay? They have People are going into these databases wherever they find them. Why? Why are they doing this? They're doing it to either create addresses and emails for spam lists, they're looking for social security numbers if they have them because for identity theft

41:42 There's nothing that Russians would go into the Arizona database for, that I can think of. And then she also equates compromise with taken. If you listen to her and she says oh well we don't take today Russians didn't take anything It's I'm reminded of a time in the past when people would say they said well, I downloaded this and I paid for it And they as well you we didn't buy it right? Okay. Well send it back to you As an extended send him back to you Thanks. It wasn't taken yes now your point is well made

42:20 Yeah, they're idiots and we know that all these so-called intrusions and scanning and probing it's normal on the internet has been that way since Internet done Now what's happening though is we now have official word, oh yes Russians did this. Not the army! That's what I find interesting This was an attack by the Russian cyber army and you would think like the woman said yeah we need to get the Army on this but it's not the Army who is going to retaliate It's the Central Intelligence Agency This is what bothers me with this entire report Is that its CIA not Army or NSA

CHAPTER 11 / 32 Discussion

CIA Cyber Retaliation, Vladimir Putin and NBC News Report

NBC News reported that the CIA is preparing a "clandestine and embarrassing" cyber retaliation against Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin leadership. The report claimed "super hackers" at Langley could manipulate the banking accounts and personal phones of Russian oligarchs. The hosts mock the report's technical inaccuracies, such as "low-flying satellites" and the idea of announcing a "covert" operation on national television.

cia· nbc news· vladimir putin· cyber retaliation· langley· drones· super hackers· clandestine

42:59 all kinds of intelligence organizations who can do this. But no, it's a... if you hear this report and this was NBC of course No, that was CBS live. No what I'm playing...I'm gonna play NBC and you have to admit the visuals so you'll hear a lot of the sound effects The visuals were dynamite! NBC News has learned the CIA is in the initial phase of a wide-ranging cyber retaliation designed to be both clandestine and embarrassing Sources with direct knowledge of the operation tell us the target? The Kremlin leadership particularly Vladimir Putin I love the parade music. Hey, we're going to show a Russian let's show some crazy military crap. If ordered by the White House the CIA could manipulate things as specific as the banking accounts and personal phones of the Kremlin leadership There is a great deal of offshore money that has moved out of Russia through the hands of oligarchs It would be extremely embarrassing if that were revealed

43:58 and doing so would be a way to have a proportional response to what we have seen. The covert operation, the sources tell NBC News is being run by a super secret group inside the CIA. John's Super Secret Group. Not just secret now. Super secret. Ooh, who have no oversight. Who have no oversight over their budget secrets. Yeah that's how we want it to go. We had seen The covert operation the sources tell NBC News is being run by a super secret group inside the CIA. Top secret documents indicate they have staff of hundreds... How did they get ahold of top secret documents? How do you think they got hold of top secret documents, yet alone reveal them? Yes and this could be- You could go to jail! This isn't against the law! And a budget in the hundreds of millions. But how do they know about the budget?! No one knows the CIA budget

44:51 The covert operation is designed to send Russia a signal to back off. How does it work? Okay, US cyber operatives have long been active inside Russia itself trying to unlock the cyber doors the Russians work hard to secure feeding information back to CIA headquarters at Langley Inside Langley CIA super hackers use that... Super hackers! Not just any old hackers. John, we have supah. S-U-P-A-H A couple of things to note since you're on this clip First of all besides the fact that everything she says is bullshit because she couldn't know it if she dreamed to know it

45:31 is that we can't hire super hackers. Because they're all smoking weed! We don't hire them for the same reason, we can't hire them and we have no super hackers working for the government. We have guys who maybe know a couple of super hackers who can go out and talk to him or hang out with him maybe learn something but we do not have any full time...that I know of unless they lie It's super secret This is bullcrap. ...information back to CIA headquarters at Langley Inside Langley, CIA super hackers use that information to direct drones and specialize low-flying satellites over Russia Nice! Hold on a second It's like everything she says When does a super hacker become the drone pilot? Or a submarine pilot

46:25 Or a submarine pilot. Yeah, it's like hey man. Hey man don't worry this I got it. I got the coordinates man It's all good now that's great. They're dreaming it up John is fantastic specialized low-flying satellites over Russia what? That means specialized low flying satellites like a ham satellite satellites over Russia big better specialize and I guess sir bouncing the signal around so the Russians don't know they're there. And even submarines positioned off the Russian coasts A former senior intelligence official tells NBC News he believes the US response to the Russian hack should be overt for everybody to see and that it should include a persuasion campaign designed to inform the Russian people about Putin. Persuasion campaign? Yeah, beautiful. Propaganda. Persuasion campaign designed to tell the people you guys no good if you publicly accuse someone... Hold on a second

47:25 But that's not interfering in Russian politics and elections? Yeah. Oh, okay. But... Okay for us though. But Merka, Merka! Hello?! Who invented cyber? We invented cyber. Persuasion campaign designed to inform the Russian people about Putin If you publicly accuse someone and don't follow it up with a response action that may weaken the credible threat of your response capability. Sean Canuck was until this spring, the senior US intelligence official responsible for analyzing Russian cyber capabilities You're seeing it play out between two long-time chess players in this field We've seen it in past decades and the nuclear era and now we're seeing it in the cyber era

48:08 Unless we stand up to this kind of cyber attack from Russia, we'll only see more and more of it in the future. But tonight while the CIA continues to lay the technical groundwork We're being told that there are deep divisions at the top of the Obama administration About whether to proceed and there are other options being considered This mission cannot go forward without an order from the president. That's just who knows but I'm always surprised That and I will give Donald Trump this why do we always tell everyone what we're gonna? Do hey Russia

48:44 We're going to hack your phone, Vlad. That makes little sense." Well that's like the old thing about if the mafia hit you don't tell a guy they're gonna... I'm gonna kill you! No You don't do that it's just not the procedure you follow. Just kill him and then you're done with the guy Yeah well he'd have to cut off his penis and stick it in his mouth for good measure. Well you could've done that if you wanted too I have Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia. Putin has also responded to this but it's always in Russian with subtitles. There are no good clips and I cannot tell these guys enough you gotta speak some English!

CHAPTER 12 / 32 Discussion

Sergey Lavrov, Joe Biden and Clandestine Attack Threats

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov dismissed U.S. hacking allegations as "flattering" but unproven, noting that the U.S. ignored Russian proposals for cybercrime consultations in 2015. Vice President Joe Biden confirmed on MSNBC that the U.S. is "sending a message" to Putin regarding cyber interference. WikiLeaks questioned why the CIA is leading the response instead of the NSA if the goal is a technical cyber operation.

sergey lavrov· joe biden· russia· cyber warfare· nsa· wikileaks· clandestine

49:28 That would make it really interesting for our show, please. It would be a lot better for the show if Putin could come on and say this is bullshit! Well... That'd be great! Lavrov's... That's all he has to learn is to say bullshit I have a great Putin clip for you in a moment But here's Lavrov first who has the stereotypical English speaking Russian speaking voice with accent Well its flattering of course To get this kind of attention For original power as President Obama called us some time ago.

50:18 for a regional power as President Obama called us some time ago. Now everybody in the United States is saying that it is Russia which is running the United Nations presidential debate." He says, United Nations I thought was kind of fun little flub there because I'm sure he sees us as nothing but The New World Order! "...it is Russia which is running the United Nations presidential debate It's flattering, as I said. But it has nothing to be explained by the facts. We have not seen a single fact, a single proof and we have not seen any answer to the proposal which one year ago, almost one year ago, November 2015, the Russian Prosecutor General's Office

51:07 conveyed to the Department of Justice, to start professional consultations on cybercrime. Let's get back to the facts you deny this... You know the international community denied it No we did not deny this they didn't prove it That is an interesting point he is making We haven't denied anything because we didn't do it or I didn't say that They have no proven it so therefore we don't have to prove or say anything we just have not denied He's being wishy-washy there. I did not prove it! Are you worried about this proportional response that the White House has suggested is going to happen? It's really... It's not worth, I believe, speculating If they decided to do something let them do it Hey, do it already Come on Do it Do it to me One more time Do it Do it Do it please Now So here's where I have the Biden clip Mine I think is shorter than yours Uh

52:01 Well mine leads up to the Biden clip. It brings in a bunch of obvious information that needs to be used to wrap Okay, I'm gonna play you so here's what we're gonna do We're gonna play my clip and then you I am guaranteeing this You have a longer bite in clip than I know mine is 38 seconds yours as 1 minute and 32 seconds Yes But my bite in part of it is very short. We're really seeing quite a war fight being put up by the highest ranks of US and Russian leadership. Let's quickly look at how it unfolded late Friday night NBC News cited unnamed CIA officials saying that their agency is working hard on a possible cyber attack against Russia now this is meant to be in retaliation for Russia's alleged meddling into the US presidential campaign

52:48 You remember claims of Russian hacker attacks with an alleged purpose of compromising Hillary Clinton's campaign. Moscow has been denying it all along, saying Washington has nothing to back it up now. Back to the report on the planned attack. It is quote to harass and embarrass Russia's leadership that we key leaks Also got involved online a little bit later. They tweeted something along the lines Why would the US intelligence announce a clandestine attack and why is CIA on it instead of for instance the NSA? But then just when MSNBC journalist must have been so hard for you to not say anything when I was ranting about that exact point No, oh

53:35 And why is the CIA on it instead of, for instance, the NSA? But then just when the MSNBC journalist asked the U.S. vice president about it, Joe Biden confirmed that the intelligence was on it and that they're absolutely serious about it. So there you have it's the US vice president essentially giving a direct threat to Vladimir Putin Why haven't we sent a message yet to Putin? We're sending the message. We have the capacity to do it and uh, he'll know it. Will the public know it?

54:11 Yeah, no it's about the same as my clip but just a little more. I hope not he says yeah i hope not. You start you see a preface the whole thing for hours in fact you did the same thing right now that I mean this is our government going on we're gonna do this we're gonna do that and then at the very end he says oh it's government again if there's a public gonna find out about and they said we hope not what is she talking about? It means that they're going to do absolutely nothing because they do nothing. That's what they're gonna do, right? They won't find out about it because this is bull crap! Perfect. Okay this leads into something else but first I promised you a great Putin clip and has nothing to do with the hacking.

CHAPTER 13 / 32 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Oil Prices and Russian Proverbs

During a CNBC interview, Vladimir Putin discussed global oil prices, suggesting the U.S. needs prices at $80 per barrel to remain profitable. Putin dismissed conspiracy theories about price manipulation, stating such plots often harm the conspirators more than the targets. He concluded the interview with a crude Russian proverb about a "grandma with a penis" to illustrate the futility of "what if" scenarios.

vladimir putin· oil prices· cnbc· conspiracy theories· russian proverb· grandma· grandpa

54:58 There's a translating voice and it's the guy Martin, whatever his name is from CNBC. The British guy and they're talking about oil prices and Putin is of course you know oil is a really important deal for Russia And he's talking about the price of oil and ways He feels that is going to adjust upwards And he makes an assertion that the United States needs $80 a barrel in order, which I think is high. But he wouldn't probably know better in order for the United States oil companies to be able to do anything profitably. Most people think it's around 70. All right so we're okay... So I like the number 70. It's a little bit in between

55:35 But then at the end he says something which I just thought was beautiful. So, I believe it will stabilize over time as far as conspiracy theories are concerned a conspiracy is always possible but this would be a conspiracy that would be harming and affecting the conspirators more than those who they've been plotting against like I said... The castrators? Did you say castraters?! I don't know! I didn't hear it let me listen harming and affecting the conspirators more than... Construators? I'm not sure what he means. Those who they've been plotting against, like i said in the United States the national budget relies on an assessment of about 80 or about 90 dollars per barrel for oil

56:28 So, trying to bring oil prices down globally would actually seriously affect oil production in the United States itself. And I don't think America's oil industry would be happy about that. So, I do expect prices to stabilize and maybe they will be adjusted for an upwards trend We can have one final question ladies and gentlemen right now all right. What if I was him translating Putin? Yeah, he's still translating Putin you don't hear Putin at all and here's the final question They should have a little Putin noise just a little bit. I agree. I agree That's what I would have done But yeah here we are podcasters not television producers anyone final question ladies and gentlemen right now

57:14 What if, I will tell you later. We have a proverb in Russia it is a bit crude about a grandma and grandpa as regards what if? If a grandma had penis she would be a grandpa that's how we say I love that. That's a funny phrase, yeah...I think i've heard it differently too and if the queen had balls she'd be king that's what I've heard Yeah, that sort of thing To explain a situation that can't be changed

CHAPTER 14 / 32 Discussion

Barack Obama, Frontiers Conference and Information Curating

At the Frontiers Conference, President Obama called for a "curating function" for the "wild wild west" of internet information. He lamented the loss of a "basic body of information" once provided by figures like Walter Cronkite and suggested a "truthiness test" is necessary to discard baseless theories. The hosts interpret these remarks as a call for government-sanctioned censorship of alternative media.

barack obama· frontiers conference· censorship· truthiness test· walter cronkite· climate change· information flow

57:56 I just but i like the russian version so much better a gram a grandma and a grandpa you know as regards what if you know, if if a grandma had a penis she would be a grandpa that's how We say and? That relates to your questions about what if yeah all right Way to go slow clap for vlad hey man will be great at the president answered that way hey listen I said, if Michelle had a penis she'd be president. Okay so this leads up to very disturbing thing which kind of broke in multiple ways it broke online but i was...I actually first started looking at when I heard the President speak at the Frontiers Conference which is..i'm not quite sure where this is but there are lot people on stage almost look like a Clinton Global Initiative thing with people and chairs and questions and of course its all about how crazy election is and all lies lies lies and the President

58:53 said something to just this is like a minute and a half. And we can follow it up with where it's coming from and who it is, but man oh man I never thought I'd hear the United States president talk about something like this We're going to have to rebuild within this wild wild west of information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to you know I use the analogy in politics It used to be there were three television stations and Walter Cronkite on there Not everybody agreed and there were always outliers who thought that it was all propaganda and we didn't really land on the moon. Elvis is still alive. It's always my favorite conspiracy theories, yeah just discredit anyone who questions anything by saying oh man I like didn't land on the moon curry and Elvis is still alive Dvorak

59:44 Elvis is still alive and so forth, but generally that was in the papers that you bought at the supermarket as you were checking out. And generally people trusted a basic body of information. It wasn't always as democratic as it should have been and Zoe's exactly right that for example on something like climate change we've actually been doing some interesting initiatives where we're essentially deputizing citizens with hand-held technologies to start recording information that then gets pooled, they're becoming scientists without getting the PhD. Okay! Sure... You mean those videos of people walking around with Geiger tellers on the beach telling us we're all gonna die from Fukushima radiation? Is that what he's talking about? Well you need a PhD No, you don't need a PhD Yeah Well I have this same clip, you're killing me here Can I finish it?

1:00:38 Yeah, finish it but I just what are you gonna stop because there's some stuff to talk about we're not going to get. I know but i have all that stuff right in front of me You think I just... Since when do you think I just play clips? Just for no reason. It's good to go. No, I'm just saying when we stop a clip we should talk about it a little bit because we're gonna like lose some of the context but go ahead. It's coming now. Recording information that then gets pulled they're becoming scientists without getting the PhD and we can do that in other fields as well but there has to be I think some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic

1:01:16 Truthiness tests? Truthiness test. John, we need some place that can perform a truth-truthiness test okay would you look truthiness up while I finish the question? I'm not looking it up its bull crap. Truth-truthiness tests and those that we have to discard because they just don't have any basis in anything that's actually happening in the world And that's hard to do? No. Hard to do But I think it's going to be necessary, it's going to be possible The answer is obviously not censorship No! Why did he bring up then? Everything he said was about censorship Of course it is! Everything he just said It's gonna be possible Well its only censorship of course if the government is involved The answer is obviously not censorship but it's creating

CHAPTER 15 / 32 Discussion

Google Fact-Check, Poynter Institute and Pierre Omidyar

Google announced it will begin labeling search results with a "fact-check" tag, powered by the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) at the Poynter Institute. The IFCN is funded by organizations including the National Endowment for Democracy and Pierre Omidyar’s network. The hosts compare this to "Snopes on steroids" and argue it is a globalist tool to delegitimize dissent before the 2016 election.

google· fact-check· poynter institute· pierre omidyar· snopes· international fact-checking network· george soros

1:02:12 places where people can say this is reliable. John, finally we're going to get our verified label from the president as well. This is all part of the licensing process that will eventually take place will be podcast licensed? Yes. Well I mean this was about Google what's going on with the icon transfer and a bunch of other things Oh I disagree I don't think so because they're gonna set up a body and it's going to be outside the government. The censorship is not about, it doesn't have to be... It's only with the government! I can censor you. Yes. You can. That's true but there's something more nefarious going on maybe you missed this okay Google has announced they will be

1:03:03 placing next to their search results a fact-check label. Nice! Yes, and there's examples it'll see under an article So how many sites are there in the world? Let's get to the questions after I give you some details They have an example of how this will work with a article forcing pregnant women to show passports is dangerous, say midwives. And then here is a that's from Huffington Post UK and then under here pregnant women and passports for the NHS it says fact check and then after that says full fact

1:03:39 So it's like a verified label on Twitter and Google will say, yes this is a good article. This is full facts now how does Google do this? And they posted Richard Gingras head of news at Google. I know Richard Oh you do! Oh yeah Well good Here he posts over the last several years fact checking has come into its own led by organizations like The International Fact Checking Network Yes And the International Fact-Checking Network now has a collaboration with Google, and they will be providing... ...a list of articles on topics that are fact checked and appropriate. And just what the president wanted not about you know Elvis is still alive or we didn't land on the moon! Again this is The International Fact Checking Network So let's find out about them shall we? The International Fact Checking Network according to the Poynter Institute

1:04:38 These guys are on the up right? The Pointer Institute, they're pretty good. Pointer? The Pointer Institute... well it depends on what you mean and what they're supposed to be accomplishing is pretty much of a clearinghouse for journalists to air their grievances. Okay, well they're running it! The Poynter Institute announced Monday that Alexios Manzaralis will be the director and editor of a new international fact-checking network, IFCN. The IFCN's work will appear on Poynter site and he will also publish a weekly newsletter this is what is going to be used for the Google Fact Check Now here's what interesting

1:05:22 Now hold on, I have an intermediate question here. Why don't they just turn the whole thing over to Snopes? Isn't that what this is supposed to be? Oh it has to be better than that. This is just Snopes on steroids! That's the idea but we can't have Snopes running it no um The IFCN is funded by grants from...I'll give you two guesses for two grantors Soros Close No The Clinton Global Initiative. Close, close, close. Well how can it get any closer? How about first of all the National Endowment for Democracy which is a Democrat run outfit and they provide huge amounts of money

1:06:07 to, but it's a part of the government. It's a government organization and my favorite Pierre Omidyar! That's right here he is Pierre Omidyar drive my car these people will be funding and are funding actually the international fact-checking network seems fair and balanced to me huh I had more than just aha i'm like F this this is crazy that's that's the way it's going to end up yeah I mean, this has got no legs. This is my Red Book prediction. The internet is too mean for this sort of thing it's not gonna fly every time they screw up just a little bit they're gonna get inundated with complaints like that matters It will! They won't be able to do...it'll come up in the conversation and it'll be part of congressional hearings This is going nowhere Okay? I'm not so sure

1:07:09 No, this is going nowhere. This is too soon! If you had the globalist agenda further down the road like maybe 10 years... I think you could ease this kind of thing into the public domain, but... Well, I can see where it ties into ICANN which is hey you know you do not pass the IFCN's fact check. We're going to remove your entry from the ICANN database good luck with your IP address Right well then you have to use IP addresses but yeah you can take the DNS pull you from the DNS Yeah, cuz you're continually full of crap at that did this is way in the future. This is gonna happen I think everything you said is absolutely true It's just and and I think it was a mistake to play this card too early Oh yeah now everyone's gonna be all jacked there now look they alert so we'll go out And it's gonna be and Google's not going to suffer from it well

1:08:06 Well, that'll be the day. But Google will... There'll be some and everything Google does is kind of like this they always get critiqued for their very cavalier attitude toward privacy. And so this is just another example of Google being cavalier saying well we can do this let's do it you know somebody gets together Gingrich you know as a kind of an idealist and he puts his thing together says and then besides that I'm he's a Hillary person And it's like, oh well Trump is full of crap. People are saying things that aren't true! But meanwhile Hillary can say whatever she wants and I think the two of them are both pathological liars but Hillary under fire... We landed in under fire they're shooting at us. Well here I will tell you that I believe the fact the International Fact Check Network and their fact check

1:08:58 True fact system ratings, tags whatever will appear on Google searches before the election. I think that's just a given it's going to happen and it doesn't matter if there is outrage on the internet who cares? News networks instead of saying... Nobody should pay attention to this. Yeah okay People pay attention to Snopes. People pay attention to Snopes! No, people go out of their way to look stuff up on Snopes and things will go out of control on the internet before anyone says hey wait a minute... Snopes says it's bullcrap and Snopes is full of shit too on occasion Of course, of course, of course. And they maintain that because of a semantic issue that Al Gore never said he invented the internet That's my favorite

1:09:46 If you look at what Snopes has to say, they find that by parsing Gore's sentence it didn't say exactly that. So its false when in fact thats what he meant. Bottom line is the president is calling for something he fully well knows is in the making and hes trying to convince people this a good idea and I can hear people all over the place saying yeah man we need to rid the internet of crazy Elvis is alive shit! I can see it I don't see it. I don't see anybody saying what you just said all right, but you are much more optimistic than i am. I mean I would say again in 10 years yeah the reason why I'm so pessimistic...I'm so pessimistic in general is I-i'm heartbroken! I'm freaking heartbroken! You can hear to my voice? I'm heartbroken that in the Podesta WikiLeaks emails

CHAPTER 16 / 32 Discussion

Matthew Lee, Friendly Journalists and Saudi PR Contracts

WikiLeaks emails identified Associated Press reporter Matthew Lee as a "friendly journalist" to the Clinton campaign, a revelation the hosts find "heartbreaking." Additionally, documents revealed the Podesta Group signed a $100,000 monthly PR contract with the Saudi Royal Court. The contract reportedly allows the Podesta Group to operate with minimal oversight from "The Center" in Saudi Arabia.

matthew lee· john podesta· wikileaks· saudi arabia· pr contract· bill clinton· the center

1:10:37 Our man. Oh yeah, I know. Matthew Lee was called out as a friendly journalist by the Death Star! For all practical purposes he was called out as a stooge. And he has not really responded to this. He's very quiet. Well I would be too. Maybe it'll go away? Well there is this one missing email because there were 16 emails they were talking about and Matt Lee as one of the friendlies only published 15 So what happened to the 16th email? What was in it? But I'm not, I don't know. I guess it's just we can't have friends just ruined. He must feel horrible that I mean these types of things and can you imagine

1:11:27 All these journalists and all this stuff is coming. I was much more happy when on some other forum or someplace, I saw Dame Francine even though she's always lurking talking about what a bastard I was when she was working with me at Intel because I wouldn't go along with that program You? Yeah. It was great. Dame Francine? You wouldn't help like one of the top dogs at Intel's public relations Oh, and she was trying to she was trying to get you to chill for intel and you wouldn't I don't know what she Was trying to get me do because I don't remember that any of it But but just say that was a son-of-a-bitch to work with. Well, I concur Dame Francine nine years a son-of-a-bitch to work with there you go

1:12:12 My favorite Podesta email didn't get a lot of play. It's the attachments are great, it's the Podesta group and it was dated September 17th 2015 just a year ago and cool $100000 contract with the Saudis Yeah, he's just doing work for the Saudis. Sure yeah And and if you look at this contract John we would have loved to have had a PR contract like this Hey, they get the money here's what you're gonna do They don't have to ask for permission for anything only if they have expenses in excess of $10,000 for something Do they have to contact The Center which I love The Center? The Saudi center the Saudi Royal Court is what that means

1:13:00 I mean what a what a fantastic contract It is a fantastic contract. I think, you know Hillary's or probably Bill discovered that the Saudis are gold mine for just soaking... Yeah You know just to, you guys could get in a lot of trouble Just soaking these guys and i think this is going to keep continuing it's gonna continue when Obama takes over that business after he's out its gonna soak these guys and then it's hush money Oh! Of course 100 grand a month, not bad. To wrap it up for me I have...I want to pay attention to the other candidates we talked about Vermin Supreme on Thursday today we have Jill Stein and Gary Johnson with statements that they have made that made the news

CHAPTER 17 / 32 Discussion

Jill Stein, Gary Johnson and Constitutional Pet Peeves

Jill Stein appeared on C-SPAN warning that Hillary Clinton's Syria policy could lead to nuclear war with Russia. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson released a campaign video using a chess metaphor for foreign policy, which the hosts criticize for its "atonal music." Adam Curry expresses frustration with Johnson's claim that the President's "number one job" is safety rather than upholding the Constitution.

jill stein· gary johnson· c-span· nuclear war· chess· constitution· third party

1:13:50 And here's Jill Stein on C-SPAN. This is the kind of exposure Jill Stein gets, she gets to do the call in show on C-SPAN. It's now Hillary Clinton who wants to start an air war with Russia over Syria by calling for a no fly zone we have 2 000 nuclear missiles on hair trigger alert and Mikhail Gorbachev The former premier of the Soviet Union is saying we are closer to a nuclear war than we have ever been. Under Hillary Clinton, we could slide into nuclear war very quickly from her declared policy in Syria so I won't sleep well at night if Donald Trump is elected but I sure won't sleep well at night if Hillary Clinton is elected." Okay that is her message Gary Johnson who has a very interesting video

1:14:38 Too much music, too long. Not right to go viral. Sorry just I don't know who's advising him and then for some reason feels it's important to bring in the whole idea of chess playing and I'm a chess player you need a chess player You need something with chess! Like...I guess that's like if you want to beat the Russians you need someone who can play chess. I'm a chess player Making a move without looking ahead to your opponent's moves, or even what your next move might be usually doesn't turn out well in the end. Our foreign policy, or lack of it over the past 15 years has been a series of erratic chess moves and the match isn't going well. We need a chess player in The White House we need policies guided by principle not politics. First let's be absolutely clear The President's first and most solemn responsibility is to keep us and our freedom safe especially from foreign attack

1:15:39 The most important job, the number one job of the president is to uphold and defend the constitution. I'm sick of these people! It's your pet peeve- So sick of it! I don't think it's really a good idea to be playing atonal music which really scrambles the brain... I told you it was stupid Let me just finish this, where he says that I don't think he wants to win any responsibility is to keep us and our freedom safe. Especially from foreign attack if the government does nothing else it must do that no No, no, no, no if the government does nothing else you must uphold and defend the Constitution. I'm sorry That's disqualifying remarks disqualifying somebody better set him straight

1:16:32 There's so many things he could say right, so many things you could say right. No! I don't think it is going to be set straight Well no of course not It's disappointing though Well i was disappointed It's on the weed, man. Well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for checking the facts Devorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning our ships and seaboots on the ground feeding the air subs of the water all the dames and knights out there In the morning everybody in the chat room noagendastream.com good to see y'all in there

CHAPTER 18 / 32 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Primary Colors and Laughing Pins

Sir Scott Hamilton is thanked as the Executive Producer for the episode. He recommended the film "Primary Colors" and an SNL skit as accurate portrayals of the Clintons. The hosts demonstrate "laughing pins" for both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump sent by producers. Sir Edward Sheets is elevated to "Baron of the Cuban Leaf" for his expertise in New York construction law and Trump's business reputation.

scott hamilton· primary colors· snl· hillary clinton· laughing pin· donald trump· cuban cigars

1:17:11 Record numbers once again, always nice on a Sunday. I want to thank all of our artists of course who always contribute fantastic artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com Martin JJ brought us the art work for episode 868 Sham Bollocks and that was it was the microphone with this shackle on it for being unshackled I guess It's just beautiful piece we liked it alot In fact that was your pick right off the bat You said thats the one Always start with the best art and then we look for the best gag Yeah, and then we looked at me trying to make a decision sometimes the best guy who beats the best art But you see if it's really good are we pick it well one is I think Martin JJ for that And I think we have a few people to thank for Who are today's? Executive producers and associate executive producers. Yeah We have a lot of his socius only one executive producer which is sir Scott Hamilton in Fair Play Maryland Mm-hmm, and he sent in a note

1:18:10 Please accept my overdue donation to the best podcast in universe. It's remarkable, but not unprecedented presidential campaign season I would like to point out Noah Jenner producers two entertainment pieces which speak more truth about the Clintons than anything else in the mainstream media and The first is the 1998 film primary colors starring John Travolta Emma Thompson and Kathy Bates in a thinly veiled expose about Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign And it is a good movie Yeah The second is the April 12, 2015 SNL cold open Hillary Clinton election video. Searchable as such on the YouTubes and I guess it would be Hillary Clinton election video. Is that something we need to play? I don't know

1:18:52 In which Hillary played admirably by Kate McKinnon prepares to announce her candidly via social media. I guess it's funny, like all good satire these pieces run alarmingly close to unspoken reality thank you for your semi-weekly reality checks and great constant humor It was my fellow producer wife Karen who sent John his laughing Hillary pin Ah! And I got one too May we? I have the Trump pen too I have that too and i had left them in the package Yeah, you want to do that. That makes sense I got this video. Do you have the pen? Yes, sir. Okay because here's what he wants for...I don't have mine handy. Oh, okay. Hey, I'll tell you what. Do we play the video for this guy? The cold open? Okay tomorrow is a big day Mrs Clinton

1:19:55 You're finally going to announce that you're running for president. Oh my gosh, I don't know if i have it in me...I'm scared! I'm kidding let's do this How much did he want us to play of this? I don't know but- I don't know that he wanted a play and he just was mentioning it Alright good alright now what are we doing with the pen Here is what he wants for his sound clips He wants her head has gone followed by the laughing pen Okay, so that you want me to do the laughing pen Actually before you do it. Let's both do the laughing pin at the same time and see what it sounds like okay? Three two one I didn't hear yours at all well That's weird or must have we must have some huh oh well Well, I'm gonna do what he wants yeah here We go and her head is gone You've got karma Okay

1:21:01 I like the Trump pin too, that's pretty cool. Yeah, the Trump pin is great. I will be... The greatest president that God created! Nice It always seems to start with that one no matter if you let it sit for a while goes right back to that yeah it's not randomized You're right, you have to keep pushing and then get all eight of them Sir Edward Sheets in Brewerton New York 23456 Lads this donation brings me to Baron. Please note that I am sir sheets baron of the Cuban leaf now legal All right a Trump note, I am the senior partner in a firm that practices construction law We have offices in New York and upstate I've been at this for 33 years

1:21:45 We have had three Trump projects in New York and litigation just in the past five years. Two settled early after the usual puffing, one dragged out but was not due to Donald Trump but to a subcontractor. Trump is the same as every New York developer. Tough it's the culture and everyone knows that loss and write-off margins are in everyone's bid so this he screws the little guy stuff is BS They are all the same. It's the gig, they all play also as baron I want to refresh my earlier request for Cuban cigars and single mot scotch at the table you got it? I'm supplying and if i may some relationship karma please rock on Sir Sheets Baron of The Cuban Leaf This is what I love so much about our community The No Agenda Show Is we have experts in every single field And here you have an expert In his field and hey this is what is normal

1:22:46 Thank you for reporting that, that's appreciated. Here is your relationship karma my friend You've got karma And I'll put the Cuban cigars and the single malt scotch at the top on the table Dwight Chick in Burlington, Ontario Canada 23456. Another 23456 ITM gents first off John I love your Confucius says keep it up! Second could i get some border crossing karma? I think I'm going to need it when I try to pass through the airport to fly to the states last time it didn't go so well third can I get the jingles uh amen fist bump love ya mean it followed by don't raff

1:23:22 And maybe at the end of the show there's always a favorite Drone Again song. Lastly, thank you guys as always and keep up the great work Wonderful Media Deconstructions. Love you mean it? Leave- No, wait. Sorry He wants... Amen fist bump Amen fist bump love ya mean it don't raff Ah Okay Let's see if I can do it Uhh amen fist bump Love ya mean it! Amen fist bump Don't raff Why are you a raffing Shut up Karma Shut Up K I think I got it I put that drone again in the end okay

CHAPTER 19 / 32 Discussion

Producer Donations, Australian Dollar and Job Karma

The hosts process various donations, including a "de-douching" for a millennial listener in Oregon and a discussion on the exchange rate of the Australian dollar for executive producers. They grant "Job Karma" to several listeners and their family members. A correction is made regarding the pronunciation of Olathe, Kansas, following a listener's mouth-punching anecdote.

olathe· kansas· australian dollar· executive producer· job karma· de-douching· value-for-value

1:24:14 John Burns, $202.02, 20-202 In Salem, don't inhale him Oregon In the morning, gentlemen. This is my first donation I'm one of your millennial listeners have been a douche bag for about a year It's about time i returned to value of gotten from the show I need to make a shout out to Tom and Olaf Kansas as the man who punched me in the mouth During my short stay in Kansas Thanks tom love this show on that note he's a douchebag for never donating Sorry, here it is. Here it is! Got it? One two three. Yeah yeah yeah. By the page John Olaz has pronounced Olaytha. Olathe. Not Olaf idiot. Olathe. Olathe. Olathe. Olathe.

1:24:58 I know everyone loves to hear you mispronounce it. I Mispronounced things, I've been propagating the formula here in Salem Oregon ever since discovering the true value of your show I can't go back to other podcasts and their advertising keep up the great work on the best podcast in universe could I get a de-douching for myself a job karma from my wife and Donald Trump bing bing bong bong plus that donate to no agenda chant at the end of The show yes will do that when is Adam doing his porn story? update. Ah, I'm still doing research don't worry it's coming. You've been de-douche'd! Bing bing bong bong bing bing Where is my jobs? Dammit here we go Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Karma Trent Wabbus $201 and he writes

1:25:58 I can't be bothered explaining my surname pronunciation, but John usually gets it right the first time. Then he tries to correct himself and then it's wrong! Just say like an American where the A is an O okay? Firstly thank you for giving yourselves the best podcast universe jingle Second I'm broke as hell And I am halfway to knighthood now So please deduce Please douchebag all non donating freeloaders Cause if I can muster up a few bucks every once in awhile so can everyone those I really wanted an executive producership But the Australian dollar sucks at the moment, and I couldn't afford $450 which equals 333 33 Wow you know one of the things we do. I should mention is that if you give us like say it check coming from Canada of three hundred thirty-three dollars of

1:26:53 Canadian dollars and then we have to send it to collections, we get about 275. We give you on the show, we'll give you that credit because the Australian dollar was actually higher than the US dollar only recently and so if you gave us $333 in Australian dollars I think you could get yourself an executive producer Anyway, think about it. When I was even broker than I am now, I figured I contribute by submitting art and being that I can't really listen live due to the time difference or make stuff I think's funny so you can do art if you can't listen. So I was pretty stoked when my Bernie tied up, Bernie tied-up art got chosen? Oh, the Bernie tied-up. That was good one! I still can't believe you said my Hogan's Heroes Art was too dated

1:27:43 I remember that in, I'm 32 but that's cool you guys know what's best for this. I think it was dated. Yeah a little. Nobody knows what the Hogan's Heroes is probably in Australia they're still playing it as a new show Adam, you must have gold with no offense. It's just that he must have a gold mine waiting for you to charge people are fortunate be a podcast guest ringer on other shows your son night attack and twit were the single greatest episodes of those shows You know they I should be charging for that. I agree From now on about I'll get you ratings and you're gonna pay me that would work yeah right good luck Yeah

1:28:23 Okay, meanwhile I can't scroll to the next page. Can I please have a... Oh yeah, I used to have the jingle ISIS in America as my ringtone but unfortunately people at work didn't find it as awesome as I did so that only lasted a week. Yeah no kidding! Plus in the summer I tan really quickly so best not risk to risk getting droned hmmm. Can I please have Dr Kiki show up at Science Chemtrails? I think he means chem trails and Broth the greatest clip ever Seeing as I listen to every show at least three times, I still owe you guys a lot of value for value dollars. As you keep me sane and the F cancer karma totally works good. Keep up the ridiculously awesome work super props to Adam for the sound quality. I listened to a lot of podcasts and you guys easily sounded best thank you Trent. Trent Webbis. And he says PSR the podcast license is still available yes son i will put you down for one thank you for your support of The Best Podcast in The Universe Shut Up Already!

1:29:17 Science! You've been de-douche'd. It's beer, bruv. You've got karma. Here we go... Steve Fisher in Missoula Montana $200 here is my 200 dollars toward the Let's Take Their Licenses Fund Huh What's a let's take their licenses fund? I don't know Oh, but i dunno Sirfish says, do you suffer from cognitive dissonance? If so take no agenda in the morning. It will soften the blockage and restore proper critical thinking. Okay-dokey! Depressing news of all media complexity... yeah depressing news of a oh no this is different one this has run into the other one so I think that's it give him some karma. You got it? You've got karma

1:30:12 Thomas Plach in Nederland. Nederland, Nederland. Is it... Texas is called... In Texas they pronounce it Nederland? Here I do! Yes, Nederland, Texas. But I have his email. I have his email. Okay. I donated $150 last month for the first time and it felt great So, I decided to donate $200 this month. This was possible in part to the Chase Ultimate Rewards Card! Ahhhh...I cashed out my rewards and decided to send that and then some to you guys! From a millennial that thinks many of us need to toughen the hell up thanks for the BP ITU could I get a Korean News Lady and an ITM? Haven't played that one in a while. The Korean News Lady yes....and what else do you want to uh... In the morning

1:31:07 In the morning, here we go. Whatever that was. You've got karma. Something like that. And now to have a make good from Dame Patricia Biscayne Bay My grandson... This is something we didn't do my grandson college senior has started the interviewing process for job post-graduation I'm requesting job karma for him okay The interviews will probably be over in the first part of November Send karma his way. Thanks for the deconstructions, always enlightening. You got it Jobs Karma! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma And that is our little group of executive and associate executive producers for show 869 69 That's right

1:32:00 And we appreciate the help of our associates and executive producers. Real credits, as you know and as was reported... What was that reported John? That uh... It was reported or it was oh no that was at the radio summit people were tweeting Yeah what happened? Yeah Curry says be an executive producer on The No Agenda Show get a job! You get jobs with that That was in essence of the tweet. Yeah I think if you played your cards right Of course Well, we appreciate that. And of course on Thursday we'll have another program for you and it will be the review obviously in deconstruction of the final TetaTet presidential debate until then please remember us for your support at Dvorak dot org slash N A More things coming up in our second segment but first remember you got to be out there propagating our formula Our formula is this We go out...We hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 20 / 32 Discussion

Selfie Study, Happiness Science and The 100 Club

A University of California Irvine study claims that taking smiling selfies can increase personal happiness and confidence. However, the hosts argue the report ignores the "dangerous" dopamine hit from likes and retweets. They play a clip about "The 100 Club," where teenagers feel extreme anxiety and social embarrassment if their Instagram posts do not reach at least 100 likes.

selfies· university of california irvine· dopamine· instagram· the 100 club· social media· anxiety

1:33:02 I want to do a little break here with one shot thing because you've been talking about this. I think you probably have the best insight and I thought we'd play something that will depress you. This can be only about aviation drugs. I don't see any other topics." Yeah, yeah that's the way you would see things but no oh this is the up-to-date selfies report! Up to date selfies report? Well tonight our West Coast broadcast is coming down to a photo finish A recent study says taking selfies could offer more than just instant gratification Here's Maria Villarreal in Los Angeles

1:33:56 Make a pose. Jackie Kyler is a self-proclaimed selfie fanatic there's an art form to selfie taking, correct? Yeah you gotta up because you can't have the double chin. You don't want the double chin okay all right which I don't want okay The Indiana native was in Los Angeles for less than two days and had already taken 60 selfies So what is it about the selfie that makes you so happy? You just want to document everything that you're doing and send it out to everybody, so they can see. Kyler is not alone. Selfie mania is everywhere whether you're an A-list celebrity or just feel like one a new selfie study from the University of California Irvine says taking more smiling selfies increases your chances of happiness

1:34:41 41 students spent four weeks taking selfies and then reporting their moods. Over time they noticed an obvious change, they were happier and more confident in that mood lasted the entire day even when they when they fake smiled. So you can convince yourself that you're happy, You can engage in the act of being happy USC associate professor Mark Marino incorporates selfies in one of his writing classes this kind of self-reflection helps people to identify both features both who they want to see themselves as and who they're communicating themselves to be psychologist and UCLA associate professor Yelda Oles warrants too many selfies could be two months

1:35:21 of a good thing. When we grew up, we took pictures about other people and places that we reflected out instead of reflecting in. So whether you take selfies with the stick or the old-fashioned way... The key is self control. Mireya Villarreal CBS News Los Angeles. Yeah, this is your...this is actually your beat. Yes I agree well there's one thing I hadn't considered when I heard this report it was like oh that does actually make some sense known fact that if you aren't feeling great and you just smile just smile just the pure act of smiling It will trigger all kinds of things in your brain and you can make yourself feel happier! I didn't realize that part um that just the active

1:36:16 of taking the selfie, smiling or feeling however... portraying however you want other people to think you are feeling can actually make you feel that way. That's not actually a bad part of the selfie What was not in this report which made it very pathetic is the likes and the retweets and the hearts and all that stuff That is what is the dangerous part I can't believe they didn't cover that. Cause it's not just, Oh, I took a selfie look at this and I'm trying to document how happy I was. I want to capture that moment. No, no it is the uh, it is the drug which is oh bing! I got another like, Oh, I got another like, Oh wow so many likes someone, Oh there's retweets high on fire. That is what really kicks off the dopamine. That's funny because I think there was a 60 minutes where they had some girl who was a teenager who was

1:37:09 Yeah, I think we played that. I remember this. If you're a loser if you can't get 100 likes... I have the clip here! A new social media obsession among teens called The 100 Club It's turning Facebook and Instagram into a competition causing some anxiety for many ABC's Abbey Bedreaux has the story for us moment 14 year old Kayla can F a selfie. I just think t put filters on it, writes put it out of good mornin and posted on instagram. K for 100 likes begins its

1:37:53 The 100 Club and teens are becoming obsessed. If you're more popular at school then you'll get more likes on that picture The concept is simple. Hitting 100 or more likes on a Facebook or Instagram post shows your friends how popular you are Anything less than 100 likes is considered a poor showing, even embarrassing Like this pic of the back of Kayla's head she posted that only got 70 likes I'll delete the picture Why? Why would you delete it? I guess the picture wasn't good enough. Her friends are feeling the pressure too Everyone in school gets around a hundred or more so then just kind of

1:38:37 Gets us wanting to be in the hundreds. Oh, no It's just not good to you only person who doesn't have it and all of this anxiety worries Kayla's mom if it comes up while we're together I say Kayla it doesn't even matter a picture of you doesn't need to validate you that's not you That's a picture of you experts suggest limiting your teens time online But for Kayla, that won't be so easy. Who was relieved to report her selfie with our GMA crew got well over 100 likes. There you go um that girl sounds I didn't realize it the first time we played they said but she sounds like She's on something. Yeah, she does sound drug Popular a kid But this is this is uh? I am changing my mind a little bit about the selfie phenomenon in only that aspect of

1:39:33 that the act of being happy and... Well, just do the smiling thing. You said yourself you just smile you feel better! You have to make it a selfie? Well there's this idea because it's the comments is what you get I'm on face bag I see it like oh what a great picture Oh and by the way if you post something that's you have to use words like hashtag blessed feeling blessed I'm feeling blessed. Use that more! I'm feeling blessed, yeah. That's a big one. Blessed. Yeah you get a phone call from me, hey John? Blessed. What's wrong with Adam? He's not blessed. Is he okay is he dying? Why? You put blessed on everything. Oh okay. Never done that before Now i didn't want to have to do this to you now but since you brought up what is happening to our youth it may be time for another one of those segments from college from university This is UCT...is that the University of Connecticut

CHAPTER 21 / 32 Discussion

University of Cape Town, Decolonizing Science and Safe Spaces

A video from the University of Cape Town shows students arguing that science is a product of "Western modernity" and should be "scratched off" in favor of African perspectives, such as the ability to strike people with lightning. When a student challenged the claim, the moderator demanded an apology for "disrespecting the sacredness of the space." Additionally, the University of Florida has established a 24/7 "Bias Education and Response Team" for offensive Halloween costumes.

university of cape town· decolonizing science· safe space· lightning· western modernity· university of florida· bias response team

1:40:25 UCT? Yeah. No, University of Connecticut...UCT I have no idea what UCT is It's the UTC Science Faculty UTC you said UTC now! No, UCT Okay. UCT? Well, someone in the chat room should get us that quickly. Yeah. Um so UCT had University of Cape Town now and she's okay all right Snowflake University that's what it's called uh could be so they have a faculty meeting with students and there's like a semi-circle and then there's a couple of students sitting up you know would would be kind of a dais and one young lady is running the

1:41:08 running this meeting and the other one has something to say about science. And I'll set you up a bit and tell you what she's launching into, she has an island type of accent so it takes a second to get into it... She feels that today science represents science as approved by colonialism because we have not in science we have not taken into account University of Cape Town It is University of Cape Town Sounds pretty American to me, but maybe I'm wrong. Right here. CT students say science is racist! There you go. No it's not... she didn't say racist but let's just listen to what she says and more importantly lets listen to what happens when people start to shout her down about it being dumb

1:42:01 And Cape Town yet. And how the moderator brings it all back science as a whole is a product of Western modernity and the whole thing should be scratched off, especially in Africa. So if you want to run practical solutions to decolonize science we'd have to restart science from I don't know an African perspective from our perspective with how we've experienced that for instance I had a place for all the science people is there's Okay, so what happens here is she's saying there are things that happen outside of the colonialized- the colonial world

1:42:54 that are not explained by science, such as the capability to send a lightning bolt and strike someone. Science does not explain that! And therefore we need to scrap all of science start over again from a new place which is inclusive And then someone shouts there, that's just not true. So oh hold on a second we have to stop the meeting and this is really where you hear this woman stand up and shame this person and talk about how he broke the rules of the room I need to address you directly

1:43:30 When we started this, we agreed on certain house rules. And by you doing that, you are disrespecting the sacredness of the space. You disrespected the sacredness of the space? And so I'd like to ask you first please apologize to the panel. See he says sorry but that's not enough. understand the rules that we went by in this space. Because it's going to be very problematic, when you started this is not an antagonizing space and so what you're trying to do is collapse the space and make it antagonizing. You're trying to collapse the safe space? Which we will not allow! This a progressive space for people to state their opinions And they have noted how those opinions are going to be laid out

1:44:21 So I would like you to first apologize and then go on and agree to abide by the rules of this space. Otherwise, if you're not willing to do that, please ask me to remove yourself from the space but those are the rules of the day in the public space." Okay, very sorry to interrupt. And you agreed to abide by these rules? Yes. Thank you. Please carry on. This is crazy John! This is just nuts. They can't even have a conversation anymore at universities because you... What I find weird is that this isn't Cape Town, South Africa? It's everywhere! Apparently it is everywhere. We know it's at Harvard we know it's at Oxford.

1:45:10 Because Oxford has shut down a bunch of things. Yeah, Candanavia this is all over Candanavia all this crazy stuff. Oh yeah Canada's loaded with it we have it all over the United States how does it get Passed on so far and wide that's what's more fascinating to me than this one incident. Well, they learn it from their parents Where does this come from? South Africa is pretty isolated compared to you know for political correctness It's a whole different situation That this exact same phenomenon would take place there even though You know we don't know all the circumstances of this thing maybe everyone there is I don't know Maybe there was some sort of

1:45:48 contract in this particular classroom. But I mean, it was just nonsense is woman talking about the lightning. Yeah if she had this power she should have lightening that guy who said this is bull crap. Yeah I know oh it's nuts and every day there's a new one of these videos and you just go what? It's just scratching your head. Oh there's more yeah at least one well remember this thing pouring out I want to go back to the selfie woman. Something she said that still bugs me, she took 69 selfies in a day as she's just traveling around and says, I want to document everything and send it out to everyone. Why? To feel good about herself

1:46:37 To let... I'm giving you the answer. To let everyone know she's having a great time, probably better than yours and what she wants to hear is how blessed she is that social say blessed and then we'll say you are so blessed oh my goodness Oh he was such a Griff's fan! I mean I'd see this every single day! I find it to be very peculiar yeah It's what it is. I'm sorry, it's just what it is! I think all you're doing is documenting yourself for intelligence agencies Well that's for sure University of Florida will provide 24-7 counseling to students offended by Halloween costumes They have the... The Bias Education and Response Team will be prepared to handle complaints 24-7 about offensive costumes So if you need some help If you need some uh Need to talk to someone in a safe space That cannot be collapsed

1:47:34 I was so upset when i saw this cowboy outfit. Now, I do have a story about that this is not a news phenomenon we have... Do you want to hear their purpose statement first? No but you can read it anyway Oh! You don't want to hear it well yeah go on Yeah the of this what they call the BERT The Bias Education Response Team purpose statement. The BERT provides services to witnesses, bystanders targeted individuals offenders or a member of the community. It's not the purpose of the bias education response team to investigate adjudicate or to take the place of other University Florida processes or services rather the aim is to complement and work with campus entities to connect impacted parties and communities with appropriate support and resources." Yeah it's more coddling

CHAPTER 22 / 32 Discussion

Jack Abramoff, Honest Services Fraud and Clinton Foundation

Former lobbyist Jack Abramoff compared his past criminal actions to the operations of the Clinton Foundation, alleging that Hillary Clinton sold "special access" to donors. Abramoff argues that while it may not meet the statutory definition of bribery, it constitutes "honest services fraud." He expresses outrage that State Department employees have gone to prison for less than what Clinton and her aides, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, have done.

jack abramoff· honest services fraud· clinton foundation· cheryl mills· huma abedin· fbi· bribery

1:48:44 There's too many people working at these operations. Yeah, it's costing a lot of money to It cost money to write that thing mm-hmm all right what else you got well I I Had it's a rather long clip but it was about the Clinton Foundation and it was an interview that I found independent something in the Jamie Weinstein show of Jack Abramoff And Jack Abramoff is...that's an old story, but he was a lobbyist and he was jailed. I believe. Do you know the backstory on Abramoff? Yeah, he was lobbyi- He was a lobbyist big shot huge and it was jailed took a few people with him What did he do what would there be? I think this had to do with some Indiana casinos or something It was he was on the take.

1:49:33 in some way. I don't remember this a lot, it's old yeah but he's back i guess he's no longer in jail i guess he wasn't when you go to the country club for a year or something probably like i have no idea yeah so we sold political favors and um so he was interviewed about the clinton foundation he's making parallels to what he was thrown in jail for and what other people he met in jail were in jail for uh to the crimes of the clintons And I think it's worth listening to. Hillary Clinton is somebody who's come through the process of corruption in Washington, is the most corrupt person in the history of United States to get this close to the presidency including by leaps and bounds Warren Harding. Was Warren Harding corrupt? I don't know anything about this

1:50:32 Yeah, Warren Harding was considered the most corrupt president and he ended up... I think they killed him at a hotel in San Francisco. While he was President? Yeah, he died in office. Oh! Huh. Well how comes no one's... He was also considered to be the most gorgeous even if you look at pictures of him you don't see it by today's standards but he was considered to be the best-looking American president including Kennedy ever. Things you never hear anywhere else. in charge of the justice system and he said, because you'd be in jail. That's probably true." Are you referring to the Clinton Foundation? Yes I'm referring specifically to the Clinton Foundation. And what seems to be a very clear pattern of her allowing donors special access and maybe results but by the way special access was all that it took in my scandal

1:51:44 to get people into a prison and she was clearly selling special access. Her staff, Cheryl Mills, Ahuma Abedin were very involved in facilitating donors getting special access forget about whether they got results because that's not really the metric The metric is are you using your public service to do something for somebody in exchange for a quid pro quo? And there seems to be very little doubt there is. We won't really know this until there's any change of administrations, perhaps through Trump administration who'd be willing to actually look into it. It was shameful what seems to have gone on with the FBI and Justice Department and this

1:52:21 But I'm telling you, I was sitting in prison with a man who worked in the State Department who allowed some of his emails, some of the confidential emails to get on his private email account and off he went to prison for a year. So the bottom line is that Hillary Clinton not even being prosecuted uh...to me is an outrage And she is by far, not only when she's running for president and she was Secretary of State but I saw it when she was a senator. The Clintons have a different standard of corruption and they get away with it. Now I'm not saying too bad that I didn't get away with it or too bad others don't get away with it people shouldn't get away with it. And I paid the price for that but she is not paying the price for that and she has done it blithely and made hundreds of millions of dollars in the process doing this or at least to her foundation

1:53:07 So I just want to put a finer point on this. Their side would always say, or a lot of people who defend the Clintons that look yes she did some meetings with some people maybe help facilitate through the Clinton Foundation donors or whatnot but they didn't get anything this is part of her business. Doing the meetings is getting something. People who understand government and understand clients and understand access in this town understand that when you Don't give money and you get a meeting. You're getting the ask, okay? You may not get the result or you may get the result by the way in some cases apparently they did but just getting the meeting, getting the access, getting use of government public service employees, public employees okay by virtue of your contributions that is special access. That may not be statutory bribery but that is certainly absolutely honest services fraud without

1:53:58 That is something I'd never heard before. He says, I think he pronounces it incorrectly. He says honor services fraud but it's the honesty services clause and you can have fraud in that. Have either of you heard this? No Okay, I got the Wikipedia entry for ya here The honesty services clause... hold on why did that not work Here we go. So, Wikipedia defines as honest services fraud is a crime defined in a 28 word sentence in U.S code which falls under the federal mail and wire fraud statute added by the United States Congress in 1988 which states for the purpose of this chapter the term scheme or artifice

1:54:51 to defraud includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services." In other words, if you look at someone and say hey it's FOB or CJWVIP uh WJC VIP and you put them on a meeting list but someone doesn't have that, and therefore you send them off to some website to go get information. That is a violation of the honest services fraud in government! I don't understand why Department of Justice did not use this law? Huh... You don't understand?!

1:55:33 Yeah, I understand. No, I don't actually! I mean unless Comey is thinking we'll wait until Donald Trump is president then we're gonna throw her in jail. Comeys right who's the woman that's his boss? Yeah, nah... We know who this bosses yeah yeah you're right but that's sad No, it's horrible. I would wish...I don't think the United States is getting close enough as a banana republic but i think somebody should come in office and start investigating these past wrongdoings and start throwing people in jail! That would be nice. I mean, I've never seen so much criminality. Yeah, I know

CHAPTER 23 / 32 Discussion

Henry Giroux, Authoritarianism and The Failure of the Left

Professor Henry Giroux appeared on "Democracy Now" to discuss his book "America at War with Itself," arguing that the U.S. is sliding into authoritarianism. Giroux claims celebrity culture and "thoughtlessness" have eliminated civic literacy, allowing money to corrupt politics entirely. He also criticizes the progressive left for failing to take education and "changing consciousness" seriously.

henry giroux· democracy now· authoritarianism· celebrity culture· civic literacy· hannah arendt· silicon valley

1:56:15 Here's a guy called Henri Giraud, he actually did a new book out. Kind of a character as a professor. Oh is this the French guy with the gray hair? No no this is an American but he looks like a woman and he's He's great, great speaker and he is kind of an older character looking guy. Did a book called America at War with his self and I thought that he just had a few good rants on the Democracy Now show and we should play a couple to get back on...I think it is right in line with what you just played about bitching. Okay.

1:56:54 This is a chapter to Donald Trump's America. Yeah. And you specifically talk about how the media coverage of Trump has sort of divorced him from any past history in the country, in terms of development of right-wing demagogues and authoritarian figures? That's an important question. I mean, you live in a country marked by a culture of the immediate. You live in a country that's marked by celebrity culture. You know, that basically infantilizes people, paralyzes them, eliminates all notions of civic literacy. Turns the school into bastions of ignorance that completely kill the radical imagination in any fundamental way and I think what often happens with Trump is you see something utterly symptomatic of a decline of a formative culture that makes democracy possible One-you have to have informed citizens to have a democracy

1:57:42 You don't have informed citizens. You have people who can think—remember what Hannah Arendt said when she was talking about fascism and totalitarianism? She said, thoughtlessness is the essence of totalitarianism. So all of a sudden emotion becomes more important than reason. Ignorance becomes more important than justice. Injustice is looked over as simply something that happens on television. The spectacle of violence takes over everything." I mean, so it seems to me that we make a terrible mistake in talking about Trump as some kind of essence of evil. Trump is symptomatic of something much deeper in the culture—whether we're talking about the militarization of everyday life, whether we're talking about the criminalization of social problems or whether we're talking about the way in which money has absolutely corrupted politics.

1:58:24 This is a country that is sliding into authoritarianism. Or sliding into globalism, I think that's probably more accurate. Well, authoritarianism... you need something to get us over into the globalism which is authoritarian by its nature. You got one world- I mean you gotta be that way if you're gonna run a whole- the whole world! And you know what's sad? Is I see my Dutch friends, I mean quote unquote Facebook friends And they're all posting about how worthless America is. We're a bunch of A-holes, 320 million people this is all you can come up with? What are you guys screw you like a lot of anti Americanism from a country that is part of the EU and is allowing themselves to be completely deculturized

1:59:07 But they all believe that America can help save us. That's the only thing that can save us is the right person as the American president, which is... How's it going to say? What do we got to do with Europe or saving them? Nothing! They're being frightened into Trump will start World War III If anyone's going to start World War III as you had by the earlier clip, Jill Stein. It says Hillary and they're all in for her. You think the propaganda is bad here? What I see Dutch press do is mainly just copying and translating from American or Western... yeah American based sources

1:59:52 you know, just copying articles. It's just no but it's sad because people think oh and if the world goes to shit America did all your fault which may be true but still that's not true under any circumstances I mean if anything is you know we're part of that same group of complainers Blame it ourselves, I guess. I'm not sure you want to play a second clip of this guy absolutely anything Yeah, go I mean it is not you cannot call this a democracy anymore We make a terrible mistake when we equate capitalism with democracy You talk about the ethical bankruptcy of the u.s.. Ruling elites paving the way for Donald Trump You know you live in a country which we have separated all economic activity from social cost

2:00:34 for ethical considerations. The ethical imagination in itself has become a liability, and I think that when people like you and others make that clear—that you can't have a democracy without that kind of ethical intervention or without assessing the degree to which people in some way can believe in the public good, can believe in justice—you have the heavy hand of the law pouncing on you. I was thinking of Silicon Valley douchebags as we went on about that. Now, of course, we have a republic not really a democracy is always confused a little bit Yeah, they don't like to say that. This guy is a left winger let's face it progressive He does have one last little comment as they put his name on here for some stupid reason Clip three about education which I think is valid you've talked about Donald Trump also Coming about the phenomenon as The failure of the progressive left yeah How well III think that you know one of the things about the Left is

2:01:35 Three things about the left disturb me, Amy. One is they never really have taken education seriously. They think education is about schooling and what they don't realize that forms of domination are not just simply structural they're also about changing consciousness they're also about getting people to invest in a language in which they can recognize that the problems we are talking about have something to do with their lives It means making something meaningful to make it critical, to make a transformative. Secondly it seems to me that the left is too involved in isolated issues you know we've got to bring these issues together create a mass social movement that in some way really challenges the kind of power that we're now confronting. Of course he never says the third one and she doesn't allow him she ends the show so I don't know what the third one was oh man

CHAPTER 24 / 32 Discussion

Michelle Obama, The Closer and Powerful Speech Rhetoric

Media outlets, particularly CNN, repeatedly used the word "powerful" to describe Michelle Obama's speech in New Hampshire denouncing Donald Trump. The First Lady, referred to by the media as "The Closer," spoke emotionally about the "sick, sinking feeling" women experience due to sexual harassment. The hosts suggest the speech was a highly scripted "Obama-ism" designed to transfer workplace harassment concerns onto Trump's campaign.

michelle obama· the closer· new hampshire· sexual harassment· cnn· powerful speech· talking points

2:02:23 She wasn't listening. She was just looking for him to slam Trump, he never did it. Who did slam Trump and I think it was...I watched this and the responses were expected to a degree. Michelle Obama did a speech where she, without actually referencing Donald Trump by name. She talked about something that's going on and it kind of goes back to something we heard... It may have been last year which is yes all women All women have been sexually harassed you recall that hashtag and how there was a big national conversation about it I think we would be remiss not to play this portion of Michelle Obama speech in New Hampshire where she

2:03:11 Scoriates Donald Trump, but I felt a little excoriated myself, actually. I felt it was a little harsh on men in totalitarianism. Did you see her speech at all? Yeah yeah we saw this. She's gotten full of herself ever since she gave that speech at the Democratic National Convention and everyone went oh what a wonderful speech! She is a great speaker she'd be the best president since then. No i think what you want is the word powerful is what everyone was saying Powerful, so powerful. First lady Michelle Obama delivering a powerful speech denouncing Donald Trump Very powerful statement from the first lady of the United States This is one of the most powerful speeches I've ever heard Yeah i think it's one of the most powerful political speeches I've ever heard By the way this is only CNN That was another very powerful

2:04:03 point of this speech. It was an unbelievably powerful speech just now as well and I don't think i have ever heard such a powerful speech from uh... first lady before it's very powerful emotional mark that was pure authenticity you can't fake that she is such a powerful surrogate for Hillary Clinton it was very special coming from Michelle Obama but you cannot watch that and not be moved by her really sent shockwaves Through this campaign. This was it was an arresting speech in New Hampshire, and she's the in the surrogate Hall of Fame now I'm coming really amazing Michelle Obama has been referred to before as the closer She's probably the one that will make the difference glory because they call her the closer first lady Michelle Obama gave weight To why some call her the closer? That's right They call her the closer apparently that come up. I missed it. I never knew she was the closer

2:04:51 I didn't know she was the closer either but apparently the talking points memo said it. She's the closer, baby with a very powerful speech. Michelle Obama as The Closer. Check! Got it. Powerful John, powerful. Let's hear some power It is cruel. It's frightening and the truth is it hurts It hurts. It's like that sick, sinking feeling. Yeah she also flubs a prompter line near the end of this clip Some people are saying oh she went off script no No she was on script She was reading script You get when you're walking down the street minding your own business and some guy yells out Stop! Stop! Stop! You gotta back it up

2:05:39 She this script the guy who wrote the teleprompter. This is not her writing This is a speech now just imagine as you're listening to it, this is Obama talking Okay, imagine this is Obama talking. This is Obama speechwriter and the truth is it hurts It hurts. It's like that sick, sinking feeling you get when you're walking down the street minding your own business. That minding your own business? You mean that part of it? That is very Obamaism And some guy yells out vulgar words about your body or when you see that guy at work who stands just a little too close stares a little to long and makes you feel uncomfortable in your own skin

2:06:25 It's that feeling of terror and violation that too many women have felt when someone has grabbed them or forced himself on them, and they've said no but he didn't listen. Something that we know happens on college campuses and countless other places every single day. It reminds us stories we heard from our mothers and grandmothers about how back in their day The boss could say and do whatever he pleased to the women in the office, and even though they worked so hard, jumped over every hurdle to prove themselves it was never enough. We thought all of that was ancient history didn't we? And so many have worked for so many years to end this kind of violence and abuse and disrespect but here we are

2:07:16 In 2016, and we're hearing these exact same things every day on the campaign trail. We are drowning in it! And all of us are doing what women have always done. We're trying to keep our heads above water just trying to get through it Trying to pretend like this doesn't really bother us Maybe because we think that admitting how much it hurts makes us as women look weak Maybe we're afraid to be that vulnerable. Maybe we've grown accustomed to swallowing these emotions and staying quiet because we've seen that people often won't take our word over his or maybe we don't want to believe there are still people out there who think so little of us as women Too many are treating this just another day's headline

2:08:17 As if our outrage is overblown or unwarranted. Blah! As if this is normal, just politics as usual. But New Hampshire... It was almost over Now the problem I have John is that what she's saying here yeah these are things that actually happen to women Why is she so- She very nervous in her voice. Possibly, possibly, I don't know why but these are things that happen you know they absolutely happen um she's taking it a bit far though for one thing i don't think anyone has accused Donald Trump of sexually harassing women in the workplace which was a lot of what she was talking about and walking past the construction site or whatever is...I think was very very effective what she did well she's trying to doing transfer and

CHAPTER 25 / 32 Discussion

Rolling Stone Rape Story, False Reporting and Trump on Drugs

ABC News reported on a lawsuit filed by a University of Virginia dean against Rolling Stone over the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article. The reporter, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, admitted to being misled by the subject, "Jackie." The hosts link this to the broader conversation on sexual assault allegations. A flashback clip of Donald Trump talking to Anderson Cooper about his brother's struggle with addiction is played to explain his lifelong avoidance of drugs and alcohol.

rolling stone· uva· sabrina rubin erdely· sexual assault· donald trump· anderson cooper· addiction

2:09:13 you know, the complaints and then turning them into workplace complaints when they don't really exist. I am reminded of as she goes on with this spiel the situation that happened which was promoted quite a bit on one of the networks because the nightly news...I've noticed when i did my deconstruction of ABC all the stations do this it's CBS which is running a news article, which is really a news article about one of your programs. And this is the story that's being brought back to the fore and it brings women's issues up in all kinds of different ways but play this Rolling Stone assault story which I think applies to what she just was talking about.

2:10:00 case that made national headlines involving a young woman and brutal sexual assault. But then the Rolling Stone article about it had to be retracted, was any of the young women's story true? Tonight the Dean who says she was accused of ignoring the cries of women on campus and she is now suing for millions. Here is ABC's Amy Robach At the center of the lawsuit, an article titled a rape on campus about a woman we're calling Jackie alleging that she was sexually assaulted at a prominent fraternity causing a firestorm of national attention. Former Dean Nicola Ramos claims she was portrayed in the article as not doing enough to help Jackie and others How would you describe how Rolling Stone portrayed you? They made it look like I used the trust of young women to cover up rapes And that was

2:10:50 So far from anything I would ever do. She read us some of the hate mail she received God will have his day with you You're a despicable human being but the story was later discredited Rolling Stone retracted the article in a sworn deposition The reporter who wrote the story Sabrina Rubin-Erdely explains how she felt when she realized this story had problems and had full faith in Jackie And her story and Discovering that she had misled me, it was just devastating. And in a statement given to ABC News Rolling Stone says in part the depiction of Dina Ramo in the article was balanced and described the challenges of her role

2:11:38 And Amy Robach is with us now. Amy, I know you talked with a number of the friends who knew this young woman their reaction to this whole thing but in the meantime this article was retracted are there advocates who believe this is gonna hurt other young women who want to come forward after sexual assault? They really do David we know that false reporting if sexual assault is extremely rare in fact it's an underreported crime but there are many who believe this story was and still is a major setback back to sexual assault survivors everywhere. Okay, are they balancing stuff out by doing this? I don't know what they're balancing, but the story says to me we have a woman reporter suckered by a bullshit artist also a woman excoriating a dean also a woman. We got nothing to do with it guys. Yeah right. It's just this situation you've screwed up the system the way it was supposed to work and you were supposed to be encouraging girls to come forward who get assaulted but this sort of thing just discourages it and got nothing to do with anything but

2:12:36 the young reporters that don't know what the hell they're doing, and bullshit artists which are out there. And I would associate this woman who is the bullshit artist that set this whole story up to maybe be equated with other women who come forward that are full of shit. While that clip was playing, I was reminded of something that Donald Trump said to Anderson Cooper and I found it, I think this is the clip from April And we had questions about what was going on with this, and maybe now we know. No alcohol no drugs no cigarettes and you know I think it had an impact and have so many friends where their children have this problem and it's a tough world out there start to start off but when you have that as an additional problem the drugs or the alcohol It's awfully tough

2:13:24 really do it. So I just tell the parents if you can keep your children away from the drugs and the alcohol, and it's going to make their life so much easier And you know you don't have that longing. I don't have any longer because I never drank so I don't have a longing for drinking or for drugs or any of that stuff. And I've other problems we won't talk about them okay but... What could those other problems be? Penis thrusting. That's right! We were curious about that, what is your other problem Donald Trump? It's Groper. Must be

CHAPTER 26 / 32 Discussion

Michelle Obama 2008 Flashback, Barack Obama and Swamp of Crazy

A 2008 clip of Michelle Obama surfaces where she criticized Hillary Clinton, stating "if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House." Meanwhile, President Barack Obama mocked Republicans and Texas residents for "Jade Helm" conspiracy theories during a campaign speech. Adam Curry adopts the "Swamp of Crazy" as a potential show title following the President's disparagement of Texas.

michelle obama· barack obama· jade helm· texas· pentagon· talk radio· deplorables

2:14:01 I have a quick flashback of Michelle Obama in her speech about Hillary Clinton from 2008 when she was explaining to people why she should not be elected as the candidate for the Democrats. Campaigning in Chicago, Michelle Obama today told women why her husband should be the next president of the United States One of the things important aspects of this race is role modeling what good families should look like is that if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House. Can do it. Shall Obama return to her South Side? Wow! Nice... nice Why doesn't the Trump campaign roll out this stuff? Nah they're morons They are, you know I said The Republican Party in general They had did the same thing They dropped a ball with Romney You know Romney wouldn't do anything He wouldn't go after Obama They wouldn't say anything

2:14:59 And then the McCain campaign was even worse. They were just total losers, they couldn't pick up and then they grabbed the screechy girl from Alaska without vetting her correctly. Screechy girl? Yes. I think that's a bad description. The president... Well, I was going to say that the president because Michelle was out and Barack is out And, you know it's one thing for Hillary Clinton to call half of the Trump supporters deplorables and what was the other? Irredeemable. Irredeemable deplorables Yeah The president went all out! All out We know that most Republicans don't think the way Donald Trump does Even in a banquet like this full of hardcore Democrats

2:15:53 We have Republican friends. We got Republican neighbors at the Little League game, soccer game. Parent-teachers conference we meet them. We don't meet them anywhere else they're not in your office Some great people! We don't even think that most Republican politicians actually really believe that Donald Trump's qualified to be president You know I know because they...I talk to him They're all like, man this is really bad. We're just trying to get through this So the problem is not that all Republicans think the way this guy does The problem is that they've been riding this tiger for a long time They have been feeding their base All kinds of crazy for years Primarily for political expedience Oh okay

2:17:05 If Trump was running around saying I wasn't born here, they were okay with that as long as it helped them with votes. Yeah sounds right if some of these folks on talk radio started talking about how I was the anti-Christ you know it's just politics You think I'm joking? He he's loving this isn't he is loving this Well, it gives him his opportunity to go back to his kind of stand-up style of public speaking. And let's back up four years, let's back up eight years, let's back up to what happened after the last election

2:17:52 All that everyone talked about is, well gee you know Obama what he likes to do is give Trump stump speeches. That's all he likes to do if you remember and they say what's he gonna do now? He can't give these kinds of speeches! Well he's back on the trail that's what he does best it was what he did eight years ago It's what he does best now If somebody completely denies climate change Ah there we go Oh wait, let's piss on Texas.

2:18:44 Pentagon does these periodically in Texas and suddenly Jade Helm all the folks in Texas were like they're gonna take over right now I'm serious And then the senator down there said yeah, we better look into that I don't know What does that mean? Really you think that like really oh The entire Pentagon said, oh really? You want to declare martial law and take over Texas. Let's do it under the guise of routine training missions and everybody is going to be... But they took it seriously! This is in... Jacksons are crazy!!! ...the swamp

2:19:39 crazy oh there you go John uh-huh I am Adam Curry FEMA region 6 here in the swamp of crazy swan like that I like this crazy I think it's a show title Swamp of Crazy personally swamp of crazy over and over and over again. And look, I... You know there's sort of a spectrum right? It's a whole kind of ecosystem. Oh okay explain. Look if i watched Fox News that wouldn't vote for me

2:20:24 All right, I just wanted to get the swamp of crazy in there. Yeah Thanks. Thanks Obama. I live here We're not walking around on any swamps in Texas is there maybe like Galveston? Austin is a swamp all into its own really but yes, I Just uh It's a lot. There is a lot to take in, you're men, you're A-hole, you live in Texas and you are an A-hole Who does he want me vote for? I have no idea He doesn't really talk much positive things about Hillary, just slams everybody else That's what everybody is doing

CHAPTER 27 / 32 Discussion

Brexit Marmite Row, Tesco and Unilever Price Dispute

A public dispute between Tesco and Unilever over the price of Marmite is characterized by the hosts as a "PR move" to frighten British citizens about the consequences of Brexit. Unilever sought to raise prices by 10% due to the falling value of the pound, leading Tesco to briefly pull products from its online store. The hosts believe this is part of a media campaign to force a "do-over" vote on EU membership.

brexit· marmite· tesco· unilever· pound sterling· pr move· grocery prices

2:21:08 Maybe just one more, I want to go to the UK before we take a break here. Brexit has caused yet another casualty people are very angry although it seems now have just been resolved this morning We had a big row which is British for a fight between Tesco Which you could say is one of our...the big grocery store where you can get everything from groceries to car insurance and Unilever regarding the pricing of one of them, and this was all set up to make the news. The British have a product that half the British love and the other half hate it's called Marmite I think we've discussed Marmite before on the show It is the Vegemite of the UK Yeah what is it yeast basically? Dead Yeast

2:22:00 And Unilever said, we are taking it off the market. We're not going to sell... Actually Tesco said that because Unilever wants to raise the price because of Brexit. Britain's Marmite lovers can heave a big yeasty sigh of relief. Yeasty sigh of relief! Tesco and Unilever announcing Thursday that they've settled their price row. Britain's biggest retailer pulled Unilever products from online sales on Tuesday night in a graphic sign of how the Brexit vote could hurt UK shoppers. Unilever had wanted to charge Tesco more for its products because of the plunging pound, a battle taking place across the industry but this time between two titans big enough to stand their ground Now I think this is a big setup

2:22:44 First of all, it was only online sales. So it was more of a news story than you couldn't get your Marmite from Tesco itself. They're ramping up John! This is the ramp-up this is the first example of it It's big corporations there and this is clearly a PR move This is what will happen we go down this road everything's gonna be 10% more expensive You won't even have your Marmite And you could not get The Brits more riled up than that I don't know any Brits that eat Marmite. Well, we know that there are Brits who eat Marmite. It has to be somebody buys that stuff. We know that it's a thing so i think this is complete media hype which is only based in making the case for a do-over or vote again... We've been saying this forever since today since the day it passed Which is exactly why I brought it to the table

2:23:40 It's starting and we'll have a lot more of this. What else could they say? I thought it started already, but there is going to be a lot of experiments and then the next thing you know they're gonna do the do-over Yeah And yeah...I think if the do over goes right although they should just rig it so it doesn't It's much easier way to do it Yeah why fool around You don't want to get out of the EU because the EU is just horrible I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fab! On No Agenda in the morning... We have a few people to thank starting with Steve B., aka The Sir Old IT Guy $123.45 from Reno and we'll throw some karma in for the US Constitution at the end Joachim Fornalas

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Final Donor Credits, Birthday Wishes and Value-for-Value

The hosts read the final list of donors for episode 869, including several $99.99 "bag of nines" contributions for the show's upcoming ninth anniversary. Birthday wishes are sent to Sir Jason Knight of the River Rouge, who is running the Detroit marathon. The segment concludes with a reminder of the "value-for-value" model and a series of "karma" jingles for donors.

detroit marathon· birthday· value-for-value· anonymous donors· f-cancer· karma· no agenda

2:24:46 Fernalas in Zurich. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 You guys can tell me how to pronounce that some other time it's not listed here. Kevin Drzic in the someplace US He does have a call out for someone Thank you for your courage, please let let Jason Fiore Call him a he's a douchebag. He just bought You just bought an $80,000 RV and he's never donated a dime for a while Black Knight Scott Baron of North Georgia hundred dollars Mary Guillette in Redford Massachusetts She did send a check-in with a note nice card

2:25:37 Again, you get nice cards sometimes happy birthday to my husband. Oh you got a pen got a pin Yep, happy birthday to my husband sir Jason night of the River Rouge Mm-hmm celebrating his 35th birthday on Sunday October 6 16th us today yeah By running the Detroit marathon he said the only things He wants for his birthday are is to run a sub three-hour Marathon and to hear his name on then the only things you once in life You don't need much else And and his name on the no agenda show. Hope he means it because I didn't get him anything else Birthday Jason love Mary excellent, okay? Yeah, that'll be on the list got it

2:26:25 That's from Mary G-Y E T T E. Robert Draikson, Drakeson in Oshkosh Wisconsin these are all $99.99 donations to celebrate our ninth anniversary coming up in a couple of weeks and we'll keep this special going for awhile these are 99.99 also known as 9999 Also known as a bag of nines. Yep, sir Howard good Good next good chance. Good connect good connect in Seattle who I've had a beer with William Ellie and Aliyah Hawaii Martin Anderson in Copenhagen the letter J Apparently on Sesame Street now Alexandria Virginia

2:27:09 David McGee in Memphis, Tennessee and that's it. Those are well wishers come out one two three four five six people Thank you Bill Bean in Ada Oklahoma found boob 8008 yeah sort of James Zucall in Los Angeles California Eugene Jana's in ski I think Jenna's Jen's inskey Jensen ski Jen's in skiing Don Lonega, Georgia. Yeah and what Gene wants a F cancer we'll throw that in the end. Get shit ask f-cancer Bradley Carrier in Lexington Minnesota is a boob Brian Rosa found boob on the newsletter he's in parts unknown

2:27:54 Darryl Coquillette, boob. We've got more boobs than well-wishers! Matt really 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 versus what was it six? Well it just shows you women rule. Darryl Coquillette Matthew James in Vancouver Matt Kavanis in Malta Bend Missouri and that would conclude that group Eric Sleer in Chicago, Illinois $75 Paul Webb 6969 and twicken him greater London Peter Tang knee in Randolph Massachusetts juice nuts 6666 Arnie Yeah, I have any idea what his name is because I would say Yeah

2:28:43 Laufner. I'll just say Laufner. Well, well see it comes in a unicode or something... Yeah but if you look at München it's the same unicode so maybe its Lünser. Arne Lünser I think he is the Gitmo protector of Central Europe he says yes. Sorry It's an U with an umlaut I believe Steve Sims in Stovermont 5432, 5432. Timmo Teigen in Denmark, 5432. Sylvain Trudeau in Boucherville Quebec 51 and the following people are $50 donors name and place Simon Horne in Manly Queensland Robert Gusek in High Point North Carolina Kent O'Rourke parts unknown

2:29:31 Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Brian Noni in Smyrna Georgia James Romano we don't know where he's from William Brannick Calgary Alberta Chris Perry and Silver Springs Maryland Andrew Dawson in Wanturna South I guess Victoria Australia Frederick Ng in Andabu he is in Norway Andabu in Norway somewhere Something he's got a note there. Nicholas Robinson in Redwood City, California. John Camp in Antlers Oklahoma Amitav Hajra and Daleville Virginia and finally Brian Matthews in Belbrigan Dublin Ireland area and John Haller in Missoula Montana that would conclude our group of producers

2:30:23 regular everyday folks for show 869. Yes, and we appreciate everyone who came in under $50 usually for reasons of anonymity thank you you are supporting us in our value-for-value model this is the only way it works and more happy that you've stepped up Dvorak org slash na another show coming up on Thursday. Devorag.org slash N-A... As requested... Fucking get out! Fucking get us out of here! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Alright everybody thank you very much and

2:31:05 It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. We've got a couple on the list today. David Memphis turns 37 today. Mary says happy birthday to Sir Jason Knight of the River Rouge turning 35 today Bill Bean celebrates on the 18th and Andrew Dorsen is turning 35 today as well we say happy birthdays from everybody here at The Best Time No nights, no dames but we do have see we have one title change Couldn't be much better with Bob Dylan winning Nobel Prize that we have him on the show singing. That's right because the titles they are changing everybody

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Yemen Radar Strikes, Syria White Helmets and Nobel Peace Prize

The U.S. military targeted radar sites in Houthi-controlled Yemen following attacks on U.S. vessels in the Straits of Hormuz. In Syria, the "White Helmets" rescue group is scrutinized for its ties to "The Syria Campaign," a PR organization that uses the same "please chip in" language as the Clinton campaign. The hosts argue the White Helmets are a propaganda tool designed to lobby for a "No Fly Zone" in Aleppo.

yemen· straits of hormuz· aleppo· white helmets· nobel peace prize· syria campaign· propaganda

2:31:53 And we congratulate Sir Edward Sheets, who becomes Baron of the Cuban Leaf. And we have here at the table for him a Cuban cigars and single malt scotch as requested. Thank you all very much for supporting us, supporting The Best Podcast in the universe! Yeah... alrighty there we go. Let's take a little look at the Middle East where I'm not covering it enough Yes, I agree. The Syrian deal is again no deal It's a scam. I found a little war crime, little sub clip you know that ship that keeps getting bombed? You know they keep trying to shoot it down the ones sitting over there off the coast of Yemen yeah Yeah play the US and Yemen clip. They'd been targeted by Yemeni rebels this week The assault came just days after the U.S military vessel took aim at three radars in the Houthi controlled coastal area

2:32:52 Yeah, we shot out the radars. So we're shooting radars? Aren't we part of this whole thing then that is considered a war crime in general? Well it's a war! There's a war going on... What are we doing there shooting at- I'll tell you, I'll tell you You know, we're in the Straits there The Straits of Hormuz We need to keep that open There's a lot of shipping traffic That goes through there And we're protecting our interests Of course the Russians are on their way With two warships It's gonna be very interesting there Yes, I would say this is hormonal. I think it's Hormel hormones hormone hormone. It's just for moves Yeah, not sure now but yeah That's what we're doing there well It just seems to me that they're bombing these hospitals and children in schools and all the said that Carrie was bitching about yeah that Russians are doing and weird Part and parcel it seems to me if we're taking out their radar yeah What right do we have to do that? Well if we got fired upon

2:33:48 No, no. We've been shooting it down there's no reason for that boat to be there otherwise It is illegal or... I'm sorry are you surprised? Yeah i am stunned That what I thought Now I picked up two clips from an RT presentation that goes through the UK mostly It's called The Underground And they brought in the ex-Syrian ambassador from the UK to discuss what's going on in Syria. I got two clips and besides learning that he notices that everything is complete bullcrap, and the reporting is bad but I finally found a guy who apparently...I'm guessing, I could be wrong

2:34:33 Well, you'll figure it out. But I think he helped Assad with his English. Peter Ford, welcome back to the show. So what is your understanding right now of what exactly is happening in Syria's largest city of Aleppo? It looks as though after a lull of few days that the heavy bombing has begun again. It looks as though the Syrian government forces are preparing for another big push and the Russian and Syrian air forces are therefore preparing the ground for that, but I think it's very important to see all

2:35:28 all these air raids in context. Let us not forget that there are a lot of missiles and mortars being rained down on Western Aleppo virtually every day, we never see this reported in the western media But it is a fact. There have actually been some mistakes, haven't there? Where they report horrific casualties and then it turns out... Indeed! It turned out that there was a famous Syrian girl, a swimmer reportedly killed under or amid Syrian government bombing. Turns out that it was rebel shelling This is typical of the misreporting distortion and exaggeration which is going on

2:36:12 Yeah, you know you brought up the helmets on the last show yeah I looked him up. I wanted to know more about this and So the white helmets are only in the areas where we have a lot of bull crap going on so like in Aleppo And they have a website, thewhitehelmets.org So I'm going to take a look and see...look at thewhitehelmets.org and say okay what's going on here? Who are you funded by? Who are you? What is the Syria campaign?

2:36:51 So they say that after four years after the peaceful uprising in Syria, politicians and the media have largely forgotten what the UN calls The Greatest Humanitarian Crisis. They're good guys, they need money and... ...they are part of The Syria Campaign! There's a link on their website to The Syria Campaign. They say if you're interested in media inquiries or to donate go to The Syria Campaign. Go to thesyriacampaign.org It's exactly the same type of website, the same layout. So it's you know how that works? The same guys made the same websites and I'm still trying to find out... Everyone has style. Right so who is behind this who is on the team? The Syria campaign back office is staffed by an eight person team with Syrian international campaigners in the communication experts with backgrounds and organizations including...so they're not there saying these names but they have backgrounds

2:37:42 with Oxfam, Greenpeace the UN and the BBC to get in touch with a team send an email here so they don't put any team members on their website but the donate page gave me a clue as to who may be behind this let me just go to that donate page here hold on you're gonna like this donate page where is it okay donate page come on fuckers okay how can I get involved? And Oh, Jesus. Play on your harmonica John I just lost the page it was my payoff! I always do this! I always do this right at the moment so I pray and...I always do this How are you funded says the Syria campaign? By generous donations of individuals around the world who want to campaign to protect Syrian civilians if that sounds like you and here it comes John in big blue letters

2:38:52 Please chip in what you can afford to support our work. Yes! Please chip in, well we know who's behind that This is clearly propaganda The please chip-in line is what Hillary Clinton uses on every single email That's a great catch I freaked out when I saw it and like are you kidding me? Please chip in So white helmets no good It's a scandal. It is probably a scandal they put together of huge propaganda campaign hoping to get the Nobel Peace Prize, which they ended up giving to the President El Presidente of Colombia for trying to do a deal with the FARC even though they shouldn't have probably given it because their deal wasn't done but

2:39:48 They weren't suckered into giving these guys the Nobel Peace Prize. It just showed up, and you know they're out there doing a lot of good B-roll of them doing stuff. Yeah that's good campaign! But no it's some sort of a scam... yeah they're all about what they are about. They're all about No Fly Zone. They keep saying No Fly Zone, 9th floor, No Fly Zone. This is what they want. Yeah they're doing the bidding of our State Department. Exactly I want to hear more. You got the clip too? Yeah, let's play a little more of this Syrian ambassador talks...I can't even do that voice! The people of ISIS must be laughing up their sleeve Oh he does, he has that lisp you're right He has the Assad-lisp

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Peter Ford, Syrian Rebels and Geert Wilders Hate Speech Trial

Former UK Ambassador to Syria Peter Ford criticized the British government for selling a "false prospectus" regarding 70,000 moderate rebels and the effectiveness of Brimstone missiles. In the Netherlands, politician Geert Wilders is set to stand trial for hate speech after asking supporters if they wanted "fewer Moroccans." The hosts contrast the Dutch criticism of American politics with the lack of free speech in Holland.

peter ford· brimstone missile· moderate rebels· geert wilders· netherlands· hate speech· moroccans

2:40:33 Exactly. The people of ISIS must be laughing up their sleeve at this puny effort by the British we were led to believe that the Brimstone missile system which only the British have and would be a game-changer would be deployed. In fact, apparently it hasn't been deployed at all or if it has on a negligible scale so the Commons were sold this bombing campaign in Syria on a false prospectus they were also told to expect an army of 70 thousand moderate rebels would rise up when we started bombing in order to tackle ISIS on the ground

2:41:22 We're still waiting. Yeah, yeah there's a lot in the WikiLeaks emails about the arming of the rebels but who really funded ISIS all this stuff that no one will talk about on on the news but regarding the Lisp I picked up an article linguists predict we knew this was coming by 2066 I don't know how they choose that number linguist are predicting that the TH sound will vanish completely from the English language. The? No, the th sound. Yeah, the! Yeah, many other... yes. Those? Well there's a lot of them. Mother will become mother

2:42:12 Be mother mother thick will become sick. No, I think there's a lot of this missing stuff in the middle It's like you say mother it's like Putin no This is other mother mother the bridge or the Brits already say things they're already their mother Mother would be with these Yeah mother yeah This is where it's going. Blacks archery, they had tooth. Tooth yeah tooth yeah tooth with F. Tooth paste? Tooth pasted. And this is according to linguists this is because of multiculturalism well yeah course why how do you attribute this the multiculturalism because he's not saying a th and how does that affect but where does the move mover come from I'm gonna tell you what they said according to experts at the University of York

2:43:08 which we now pronounce as fork, the University of Fork. Within the next few decades immigration will have fundamentally altered the language and specifically the th sound will be replaced by an f a d or v Well, there's the F is tooth. The V is the mother and what's the other one? Thick will become dick I guess no that'll become thick Dick It's very thick Yeah sounds right yeah, I look I don't see where the D is gonna replace TH. I don't see an example actually

2:43:46 Dose dose yeah, damn. Yeah, it's always dim guys doze and and the way you do things Google Earth Best podcast in the universe unidirection I can't even do it now Guessing duh duh duh universe this is where we're going Did you catch the Ebola wikiLeaks email? I like that one a lot miss that one yeah And one of the Podesta emails Teddy Goff And it says, just my two cents here. I would hate for us to be among the people brandishing Ebola as a major threat when we know that the flu and other diseases are actually much riskier. Oh gee, that wasn't the messaging we got. No but that's what we said. What we did yeah there's some good stuff in that and i love how they how Wikileaks publishes all the fun stuff up front like the UFO stuff there's a lot of UFO stuff in Podesta's email which is like okay

2:44:45 This is from... You don't think Podesta's in touch with the aliens? Well, it appears that way. Jumping off of John's tweet this is from Leslie Keen I guess A New York Times reporter whom I know is writing an op-ed calling for release of files on a new government project on UFOs. He has invited me to coauthor, I will include only things already public like the CAP briefing in 2011, the Ford in my book and the foreign agencies." Leslie says to Podesta, I don't know if it will be published but he's trying. I want to make sure John you have no objections to me co-authoring it. I think that will make it better. I'm sure it'll be on the mark can you run this by everyone to make sure? So I guess there is some disclosure or they're hinting at it. Wow! Yeah. Well maybe this just a backup so when they discover the unsweating Hillary

2:45:46 Might be something. Well, it's project Bluebeam that's what this is all about blue beam Yeah We've talked about project Bluebeam no I don't remember it yeah the name God will speak to us Nothing you talked about it if well hello Of course Geert Wilders Dutch politician Will indeed be tried for hate speech? She I saw that as great It's crazy What did he do well So first of all, this has been going on for a long time. Hold on one second let me just go here... And now the High Court judge said yes there seems to be enough evidence here to go forward with the trial and what he did at a 2014 rally of his Freedom Party party for freedom PVV after supporters chanted they wanted fewer Moroccan nationals He replied yeah we'll organize that

2:46:53 So that, yeah. That's what he said and now... That's hate speech? That's hate speech! Wow and they're bitching about us over there Well it's free speech but I guess not in Holland It's hate speech and you know according to EU regulations tolerance the tolerance regulations it's not tolerant therefore hate speech You can be prosecuted And he could go to jail Yeah sounds like it I think that yeah He should I know and I just love how the Dutch are complaining about us So there was a big BRIC meeting. Ah, the BRICS. And there's this little thing that came out of it and I thought it was an interesting little sale of some gear to the Indians by the Russians. It wasn't reported anywhere but I thought it was a loss

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BRICS Summit, Russian Defense Deals and Postcode Lotteries

At the BRICS summit in Goa, India and Russia signed a $5 billion defense deal for S-400 anti-missile systems. The hosts contrast this with the U.S. Navy's troubled USS Zumwalt stealth destroyer, which is reportedly not seaworthy in high waves. Additionally, WikiLeaks emails reveal the Clinton Foundation receives millions in funding from Dutch and Swedish "postcode lotteries," which the hosts describe as an elite-sanctioned corruption scheme.

brics· goa· s-400· uss zumwalt· clinton foundation· postcode lottery· sweden· netherlands

2:47:48 you know we... Sales! Lots of sales. Yeah, we lost the sale here this is S-400 which is his anti missile system that they run. It's a new one it's nice too. Yes upgrade to the s300 The group of the world's emerging economies known as BRICS is right now gathering for its eighth annual summit Brazil Russia India China and South Africa descending on the Indian beach resort of Goa Heads of state along with key economic figures will mull the current state of play in both the political and financial worlds. On the sidelines there'll also be bilateral talks between Russia and India, on that subject RT's Emily Suh reports from Goa

2:48:29 Although there are no Western powers present in the BRICS bloc, news of the summit have been all over the mainstream media mainly because of the historic $5 billion Indian-Russian defense deal that is rumored to be signed in Goa over the weekend. This deal will secure the delivery Yeah, how come we're not in? I mean we know why the sails are on because they have all that shooting back and forth again. But why are we not in the deal? I think we got somehow screwed Maybe our stuff is no good Well

2:49:15 We got Iron Dome Sure yeah, I earned ohm that'll they just commissioned a zoom Walt over the weekend. Oh what? The Zumwalt, you gotta look this baby up. The USS Zumwalt is finally... This is the new category they're only gonna make three of them They're gonna make out... At some point they were gonna make 50 then it turns out that... Oh yeah this is the stealth destroyer Yeah and this thing apparently is not at least according to the reports is not seaworthy That's a bummer for something that is supposed to be on the sea. It has, it's not seaworthy and apparently they've got some modern hull and there are some things because of the stealthiness. It's a good looking thing I think even though everyone is criticizing for looking Stalin-esque but if there was a big wave coming up from behind it will flip

2:50:10 And so they, uh, so they dropped three. It was supposed to be like a billion or two to make one of these that cost three and way over two years late and the whole thing comes through but their Navy is very proud of this boat. Fantastic. I think it's a good look at me. I'd like to get on board as soon as like inside there's no windows. No, it's got radar. Let me see. I mean, there's a lot of WikiLeaks stuff you know it's all stuff that we know that we've talked about for a long time uh it's just none of this will really get talked about which is kind of sad...I do like the one about the Clinton Foundation and their excessive spending

2:50:54 Yeah, that's how you do it. That's what you want is excessive spending. Someone should go back to WJC. That's William Jefferson Clinton. All these emails always have abbreviations for everything They never say President Clinton is a WJC. It's easier and confirm that he approved the island initiative as is including the 1 million dollar Clinton Foundation budget which budget includes $100,000 for salary for IRA on top of his Clinton health AIDS, HIV-AIDS initiative salary and a staff of nine despite the fact that one of the people who works for IRIS says that most of his staff is unnecessary. And he agreed to split the Swedish postcode lottery funds which means we will have to use Clinton Foundation funds to fund our AFL-CIO pension fund retrofit work

2:51:45 I mean, they're just bargaining about huge salaries unnecessary staff taking the lottery money. They also take a lot of Dutch lottery money, the postcode lottery and... Why? Well that's because it's all corrupt. It's all corrupt. How did they get in on that deal? It's elites you know the guys who run the dutch postcode lottery drive Rolls Royces They are incredibly wealthy. They produce a lot of television, they fund a lot of television productions wrapped around it and its government sanctioned lottery you see? The funds go to all kinds of things including the Clinton Foundation millions a year, millions! I thought it was supposed to help people in your own country when we have a lottery or your own state... I think its peculiar to be honest about

2:52:37 I think it's very peculiar that the Clintons get any money out of the Dutch lottery. Yeah, well not just the Dutch also... The Swedish postcode lottery and we've talked about this lottery before it's fantastic where you buy a ticket but you win based upon your zip code So they're continuously advertising, hey you know it's coming up this weekend we're going to draw the zip code. You don't want to be the only person on your block in that zip code who loses do you? Oh that is a great idea! The pressure is enormous and they always... So its group win? It's a group win? No it's not a group win but so if you buy one you can buy half a ticket full ticket or multiple tickets and that determines the multiple of money you'll get if your postcode is chosen-your zip code

2:53:27 Yeah, but then everyone who buys a ticket in that zip code gets money. Yes! But you always see there's like person who bought 10 lot...you know ten tickets and they got like two million euros and then someone who bought half of one is like oh he only got 50 000 but it's still fifty thousand and there's always one schlub family. Ah will you play next year because you know you see that should have played it's a brilliant brilliant thing It's great. Yeah, yeah you're ashamed that people didn't play. Well it's like what we do with the douchebag call-out. Absolutely! When it was done on a national basis by the government holy mackerel. Yeah I know that's a big different than what we do hey the one thing I was wrong about and

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CNN Email Authentication, Julian Assange and Outro

CNN commentators questioned the authenticity of the Podesta emails, suggesting they might be "doctored" by Julian Assange or Russian intelligence. The hosts mock the network for claiming it is the candidate's responsibility to make the emails a campaign issue. The episode concludes with the "Drone Again" song and a final "adios mofos" sign-off.

cnn· julian assange· wikileaks· john podesta· doctored emails· ecuadorian embassy· drone again

2:54:11 gladly admit defeat here, or being wrong. Apparently there were speeches! We thought that I said specifically no speeches no transcripts maybe there were no speeches Well, it turns out there were speeches and we have snippets coming through. That'll just be my last clip for today from the WikiLeaks. What the Clinton campaign is doing here is really echoing some of the concerns that I'm hearing from some of my sources in the security research community which is that the Russian government is using... You say your source is non-partisan sources? Yeah, I would say that's a fair thing to say. Pfft! Yeah my sources are non-partisan mmhmm. You have a foreign government that is using Wikileaks as as a tool some would say a weapon to influence public opinion now what influence the US election means? What influence public opinion means? That doesn't necessarily mean help Donald Trump win it might just mean so uncertainty so discord

2:55:11 When you look at what the Russians have been doing, or allegedly have been doing and then you hear the US for the first time sort of naming and shaming the Russians in a very public way much more than any U.S officials ever done from the Chinese do you get this sense from your sources that they haven't buttoned up pretty tight? They've incontrovertible proof that the Russians are behind this? Certainly in case with the DNC hack that is the case. They have not made a public attribution with regards to the theft of Mr. Podesta's emails very careful before they say this is how, this is who it is. How closely aligned are Julian Assange and the Russian intelligence services? That's a really really good question No its not! We don't know the interesting thing about WikiLeaks is to talk about WikiLeaks as to talk about Julian Assange It's a very very small organization he will claim hundreds of volunteers working for him but in fact it looks like if one man shop

2:56:06 Oh, really? That's not true. I heard someone on the news say super hacker Julian Assange like he's actually doing it now. Oh yeah the story is changing. Please. Yeah oh yeah with just a one man shop He's doing it all by himself. And he is not very clear about where he gets his documents, how he vets them and where they're coming from. Well into that point... Yeah he is extremely clear about it but no okay. We have not heard the Clinton campaign confirm or deny the John Podesta email so we don't know if its Julian Assange in the bottom of the Ecuadorian embassy in London sort of adding in a little color here and there or if it's a true recitation of private emails What is this from? Where did you get this?

2:56:51 This is CNN. Man, they stink! You're getting at the heart of this issue which is are these emails authentic or have they been doctored in some way and with no insight into how he vets his documents... No one has said they've been doctored. Podesta would have said it if it was. Everyone's insinuating that. Yeah except to people who are owners of the email. ...to how he vets his documents there's really no way to know that Suffice it to say there's a lot... I guess there is a good way to know it. The person who you're sending their email should say, this is bullshit and I didn't write it That's how you know that hasn't happened. Nope! Suffice it to say there are a lot in these emails that aren't being made a big deal

2:57:36 I think they're being reported on, and i think you are seeing individual stories on content of the emails but it's really incumbent upon the candidate himself to raise it to the level of a campaign issue. Oh so here is how it works? Brother are you kidding me! So in other words whoever is campaigning is responsible for getting news out? Yes that's correct. This is the worst network ever in history. Hey, it only gives you more reason to support the best podcast in the universe because we are here to help you keep your sanity. I know basic liars is just a one she's go up there and make stuff up and lie lie boldface lies That's why we exist John that's like speculation is what it this is the type of speculation

2:58:27 As though they're actually thoughtful. That's, to me the most annoying part. Yeah what do they teach them in J school? Not much. Depends on what the meaning of Jay is... Exactly Alright everybody it's gonna be a crazy week because that's how it rolls who knows what could happen before The big debate I'm sure Forces will be at work. I mean holy moly! The Russians Who knows anything could happen. I'm excited are you Yes. Coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper, in the swamp of crazy Austin Texas it's FEMA region 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm gonna go outside and take some selfies! I'm John C. Dvorak You'll feel good about it my friend that's for sure We will return on Thursday with another episode of The Best Podcast Universe Until then...In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And see ya Thursday

2:59:29 Adios, mofos! Donate to a no agenda They give us shows week after week Donate to a No Agenda It's the show that is really unique Donate to a No Agenda Listen to John and Adam speak Donate to a No Agenda Science is turning into a clique Flying over Afghanistan, or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman child and man that was on my list

3:00:19 I don't care if i missed. I'm remote controlled, I do what I am told by someone at a computer Obama gave me a push more than Bush and I cost millions I was supposed to target terrorists but not so much civilians I don't know what to say whoops some got in my... drone again naturally a drone again naturally.

3:01:28 She is the victim here. She's the victim here. She was the person to whom dirty was done. That's just not how you behave and I would like to apologize to those tramps. That's just not how you behave and I would like to apologize to those tramps. What? The person who dirty was done, she is the victim here. She or ISIS we will follow them to the gates of hell. Isis adios mofo amen fist bump love you mean it