Toilet Wars

00:00 Wiggy, wiggy, wiggy. 800 episodes of service as your guardian to reality and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i'm watching this zephyr go by. I am John C Devorah. Yes 916 no celebration without a Zephyr just went by on its way to Chicago

00:42 Hey, John. Hey! Congratulations man. Congratulations to you There ya go! Big 800 everybody! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! Alrighty then... Yeah 800 episodes We did it! We did it we're here We're here we made it We did And without because I think remember we started the show in some early clips there was supposed to be a another 9-11 event According to the Feinstein committee that still has a major expert was that they're all saying We're gonna be attacked in six months, and that was like six years ago well to be fair. We did have Sam Bernardino It wasn't quite an 9-eleven like event But it's just a first I've seen like a corporate grudge kind of thing hey John Thanks man

01:36 Well, thank you. No, thank you and I want to thank all the ships at sea boots Oh Let's think a couple people here's to think of few people even though we do the show pretty much by on our own yeah now obviously Eric to shill of course and then there's Everybody who's helped us do the spreadsheet? Well let's see we have buzzkill jr Eric DeShield, Buzzkill Jr. We have Void Zero. Void Zero's a big help. And we got Dave Jones from the Freedom Controller He's the go-to guy Who... I forget her name or I forget her no agenda name who helps proofread the newsletter Pepper's Mama Pepper's mama That's how I was gonna say it! We want to thank Pepper's mama but yeah it's Shayna Okay Want to thank the candidate Mimi

02:28 She always does our end of year crap. Yes, and of course she... So you have a bunch of people helping us? Tina the Keeper, I want to thank Tina the Keeper Right And as the first podcaster to reach 800 episodes twice, I want to say to all the young podcasters out there There are going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for the accomplishments Or for your fame I'm sorry, that's Taylor Swift's acceptance speech. Wrong one. Yeah you get the wrong one It's in the other pocket No but mostly of course thank you to the producers all of the producers who have... There is no show without a producer stuck with us throughout the ages i would say and there are so many people we could thank here The artists my goodness there are so many of them. They're fantastic And it was really because of the art That I realized just how..I am going to say the word Don't! I have too

03:26 No! Yes, I have to. How amazing it is...I said it...how amazing how amazing it is that we can continue to do this program based upon the support of all of the producers and it really came to light When I was working with the Apple folks on getting our 800 episode artwork all set up for the podcast app and the iTunes promotion. Right, this is a story you teased! Well I teased YOU with it... Yeah as well So we had it pretty much all setup Nick The Rat had sent us

04:08 piece of art with all the appropriate sizes and everything this is for the banner, and I don't think it actually had a number of people that said we want to thank everyone who Everyone who worked on it. Yeah now this banner drops on Monday Drops drops the banner drops on Monday pick it back up And so but they wanted the artwork in Monday this past Monday And so, you know we had already...we actually had a meeting after the show meeting which was big for us. So we got the artwork and I made up a nice little professional web page because i didn't want to send you know the big image through email because it was probably 60 megs or something PSD file but even came up with why even wrote our little tagline there which is what we'd come up with what was it uh

05:00 Post-modern modern Newton news deconstruction post modern news deconstruction if that doesn't get your attention nothing will Post-modern news to consider. What is that? so now I'm gonna bring this back to why we're so lucky to not have to function within the mainstream and As much as I appreciate the work that Nick did and the Apple guys wanting to help out with us um, I sent this artwork And I got the following email back. And for the way you could describe the artwork, it was let me let me describe it really one word okay innocuous Innocuous It was kind of an old-fashioned map and a two had two hands holding up the microphones and so here's the email I got back from the guys at Apple Hey Adam thanks for sending this over My first impression is that the map looked a little pixelated in low quality

05:55 Then I noticed the Illuminati symbol and also realized that the fists were like black power symbols modified to be holding a microphone. We tried to avoid all kinds of symbols which might be viewed as controversial, these include religions, cults special movies etc...I'd like to get a little bit more conservative for this so he wanted something else and I said, what are you talking about illuminatis symbol? Did you see this?! Well, I saw what was the pyramid that's on the back of the dollar bill. What happened is Nick had put a whole layer in there, but whole Photoshop layer of the all seeing eye

06:36 Yeah, the all-seeing eye. Which was pretty specific in Apple's guidelines...you know don't put swastikas symbols... I didn't notice it said the all seeing eye. No it didn't say that specifically but you know Nick did kind of slip us a fast one. It's on the back of the dollar bill! Is it also bad to put George Washington's head? Well so this is my point And I thought to myself, self oh my god. I'm so happy that I don't have to deal with corporations anymore We are so lucky you know You and I we just...we're it! We decide we'll do this or we'll do that This is dumb this is good whatever

07:17 And so it just went around and around and around. I'm not even sure they're going to use our tagline now, but interestingly enough the piece that i did send was the same logo as what you used in the newsletter. The kind of the wings with no agenda microphone on the middle? So that worked out pretty well because Uh, texting you sending you emails. No response then on Wednesday is Wednesday. This is 48 hours later and I send you emails. I texted nothing called if you really need to get a whole cricket's cricket. No really? That Google voice thing that was hi this is John on Google voice. I'm not here now. I mean like my real phone number. I have 10 phone numbers for you. I don't know which one is real

08:04 You also text me on three different numbers. After eight years, we still don't know each other's real phone numbers! This is sad... And then you're like sending me a check the newsletter and I'm like, oh what's wrong? What's going on?! It's just- Thanks John How do i get ahold of ya? I know what happened with your email. I figured it out. I know why you don't see some of my emails Okay Because I replied to A thread that you had already received one message for, and you use SquirrelMail. So when you use SquirrelMail there's a bug in SquirrelMail that it keeps the date of the original post in a thread as the date in your time...in your email inbox so even if I reply and you have it in threaded mode That reply will come through underneath the original which could be from days ago which you'll never see

09:05 I see him eventually. I search for you specifically No, you don't! The way it should work is if there's a new message in the thread the whole thread should pop to the top of your email It doesn't do that on SquirrelMail Whatever the case Yeah just letting ya know You fixed it Well kinda But we'll see We'll see if-if we get on Monday I hope...I hope So And of course we have lots of little ditties people have sent in, a couple things you might use today and there was some kind of... I don't know why he just didn't send in that other one. The second one. Which second? The one that was over the yellow background. He didn't care for it but it was about as bland as you could get. But I didn't have any assets! It doesn't matter. You were supposed to be in charge, they couldn't get ahold of ya'.

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11:30 Threat stream. Threat streams! Threat streams! Threat streams... That would be a threat stream A threat stream? I-I-I... A THREAT STREAM! A threat stream. A good threat stream. Somebody coming at ya peein' Pound it, pound it Jacking and hacking. Jacking and hacking. I'm jacking and hacking. Jacking and hacking There's a joke there that I won't go into Nah thats alright No no no no Right? RIGHT?! NO THATS NOT RIGHT There you go, 800 episodes all summed up perfectly by Paul. Secret Agent Paul! Well that was about as good as the show ever gets. Thank you very much everybody we had a good time anyway so yeah We're very thankful to our producers who make all kinds of stuff Our artists people who help us with information People who of course support us financially And today... Boots on the ground Yeah and then but we have boots on the ground everywhere

12:26 Today, like a show like every other show we got to go deconstruct the news media amongst other things. Well there was a number of events in the last few days that were worth recounting my favorite was the Hillary barking episode this was yeah I don't know if it was my favorite, but i liked it a lot. She does a good job by the way! She's she's a great barker here's the whole bit wouldn't it be great? If somebody running for office said something we could have an immediate reaction as to whether it was true or not well we've trained this dog and the dog...if it's not true he's gonna bark! I'm trying to figure out how we can do that with the republicans you know

13:21 We need to get that dog and follow him around, and every time they say these things like oh you know the great recession was caused by too much regulation. You know? Even stupid... Hold on a second! I had the long version. You hadn't heard the whole bit yet had ya? No i didn't think so no no i had the whole bit but i have the long version even longer than that was actually edited Okay, play play play Hillary bark long hold on a second Oh yeah, long. Okay gotcha. From the loud to the strange Hillary Clinton focused on Republicans too during a story about a political ad featuring a dog she began barking yes barking we need to get that dog and follow them around and every time they say these things like oh you know The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.

14:27 You forgot the best part So we both did some editing good work John we put some effort into it now back to coast but wait, but wait We have more

15:05 Well, we've trained this dog. And the dog... If it's not true he's gonna bark it up! Little hill snoop dogg there for everybody Well, we expect to get a number of songs. A number of songs based on this barking bit! There was something else very strange that happened with Hillary Clinton amidst everything that went on in the past couple days... CNN... Yeah the coughing episode Here's CNN explaining what happened and I presume this... What's her name again?

15:48 kind of long-faced girl. I presume she was there. Clinton, the speech...was it well received? It was and this was a very supportive crowd right that she was before at this black cultural center in Harlem in fact actually one point she choked up so badly that she struggled to speak for a few minutes and they actually cheered to fill the time because it got a little awkward yeah really that's what happened So according to this CNN prostitute, she says she got choked up and then she had to like have a moment there. The crowd was just clapping and saying you go Hill that of course is not exactly what happened. But now I here's what would I didn't get the strain because I was doing when I did the clips but I know of the one there was two episodes. There was actually two episodes that I saw that were different

16:42 There was the one four minute episode where for four whole minutes she was coughing on stage in front. She couldn't catch her breath and she was coughing, and then another one which I think was the black one that maybe is being referred to in this segment that you have She was coughing and then she turned around, and then there was some activity going on. And she kind of...it was covered up but it she was still hacking away having this problem. But I have cut this down to a little over two minutes we can go until were tired of it but This woman is very ill at the moment There's nothing worse than being on the road and having..she got some bronchial infection at this point It really doesn't sound very good

17:26 And this is dangerous when you're, uh... In general anybody's dangerous. You're walking around, you're tired- You're in huge crowds of people and getting infected every second. Getting even more as your vulnerable and your resistance is down. Inmates! Excuse me. Nice hum by the way audio guys. Too much to say This is the one that went four minutes. Yeah, I think it was all the same session though John It was all the same But I saw it would seem like two episodes it was all the same thing if total was about five minutes and 40 seconds And I cut out applause isn't all that Listen to that she's not getting loose you know it's stuck in

18:24 Hillary, Hillary. Well it sounds to me as though she can't catch her breath. Yeah oh she's totally out of breath is that she's almost... She could have passed out up there doing this. That would have been cool yeah yeah I agree but listen what does happen and this is where I picked up one of the clips is when she tries to talk it sounds like she's really emotional about to cry so if this woman from CNN either is lying on purpose or really wasn't there. Or she was an idiot. Well there you go Well Thank you woman a lozenge. She's had cheap she actually popped the lozenge this is because she doesn't sweat man She can't get anything out Have you ever heard of lizard cough? That's what this sounds like That's been part of my mission oh, man Representing

19:21 Poor people through Little Eagle Services Corporation. This is so sad! I had to stop this because i was looking for it Yeah, yeah we can go back...this is great It's about making people's lives better and it taught me that even if you're young- I think this is the kind of stuff news media should be broadcasting If anything it shows she's a trooper And you don't have a powerful job You work at it. God, man this woman is a death's door it sounds. Stick with it. She's gonna drop. Yeah! So you can make a- Bill's going damn girl you sound sick! difference. Oh gosh help her! What is she?

20:20 Yeah, I love by the way. You're absolutely correct this should be broadcast there was a bunch of stuff that I saw on some of the comedy shows mm-hmm you know like George Bush saying Our daddy told us that you know There's a lot of bad things going on about the people yelling giving each other calling each others names is my our daddy told us that The only labels only belong on a soup can just a stupid thing to say and This stuff shows up everywhere but on the news. I know and this is what people really should see, i think she could have turned this around to her benefit if it was shown properly

20:58 No, she probably figured that Newsmead was going to cover for her. But if there was a real situation... I'm surprised they haven't got a contingency for this and she says come can you know somebody come out and cover for me? And let me just catch up yeah yeah you know just bring somebody else out so he'll... Hey Bill! Bill you come out here She's been working herself to the bone Yeah really I think she's sucking on the bong, man. Sounds like she's... It's probably bong smoke. Thank you! Do they realize they're cheering a woman on the brink of collapse? And there's nobody—no one going up to help her! Where is Uma?! You're a great human being. This reminds me — what would I say? I saw another thing like this it was uh

22:04 Damn, and I can't remember which one it was another one of these deals some guys at a press conference Yeah or he's on the podium. It's like oh this is the General who collapsed during the f-35 Talk no did you get a clip of that? The clip wasn't that good you have to see it too appreciate didn't work No there's just some guy heads up on the stage And he said and he's he's he's wiping his nose and he's dribbling in he's trying to talk and he's got And he's dribbling, and nobody... Why does somebody run up there with a box of tissue? Give him the tissue. Exactly! What does it take?! You see some guy out there struggling and he's sniffing, he snotts everything in you know He has to wipe his nose with his hand It is disgusting Go up there do something So why didn't someone do this with Hillary I don't know man Maybe because she gels at them? I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP Sucking in soot! I dunno 20 seconds left Yeah no blame all of it I love it Oh Dr King

23:05 The time is always ripe to do right. This is where the girl got her black people emotional comment from, from this last bit. To quote Dr King, the time is always ripe to do right no matter who you are and when I had the great privilege of representing New York I worked with members of our congressional delegation. So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits... Oops, wrong one. Well how did that happen? Didn't mean do that! No but this is such a... She's not emotional she's been coughing and barely talking Let's listen to the cover up clip again. The speech was it well received

23:48 It was. This was a very supportive crowd, right? That she was before this Black Cultural Center in Harlem In fact actually at one point she choked up so badly that she struggled to speak for a few minutes and they actually cheered to fill the time because it got a little awkward This is a misreport Yes! It's a lie It's a lie I worked with members of our congressional delegation I can just see Putin going, VOTE MEN That was it. We're done, we're done. Yeah so that was a lie! A fun one Well... shameful lie as far as I'm concerned Oh yes indeed Any more on Ms Clinton? Well let's see what we have here. I have a couple of things they lost clips

24:40 Well, I mean these are a lot of this is a celebration of show 800. Oh yeah okay? That's nice So here is a here is the classic clip that just came up This was somebody put it together and we played it maybe you're doing a retrospective Where's their music? What music oh? I didn't realize you were doing a retrospective sure let's go back to I don't know where we going John 1972. 1972 when we first started the show yes okay what do we use the Hillary medley, classic Hillary medley of bullshit clips The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president I don't feel no ways tired

25:40 I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles. To get to our base. The fact is that we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference does this point make? We came out of the White House not only dead broke but in debt. Uh...we had no money when we got there and we struggled

26:16 you know, piece together the resources for mortgages for houses for Chelsea's education. You know it was not easy. That's right everybody Clippity Club yes entertaining for decades before almost a decade now eight years of the show in there and they were on to nine We're back. Let's try this clip, try Clinton 2 Fishy Story Well, we're joined now by New York Times Washington bureau chief and its political editor Carolyn Ryan and Reuters reporter Jonathan Allen who broke the story. And we welcome both of you. Carolyn Ryan let me start with you the New York Times story today does describe a Canadian wealthy Canadian businessman he's the chairman this company that owns significant uranium mining interests in the United States

27:16 He also happens to be making huge, large donations to the Clinton Foundation. And then it turns to the move by the Russian Atomic Energy Agency to buy controlling interest in that company. Fill us in from there Well, the nub—essentially the ethical issue here is that this panel, U.S. government panel was overseeing and had to sign off on this deal. And the donations that you speak of were not disclosed by the Clintons as they agreed to do as part of the agreement that they set up with the Obama administration when Mrs. Clinton became Secretary of State, so it was multi-million dollar contributions that were not disclosed leading up to this key vote on whether this deal could go through And what is the Clinton campaign? What is The Clinton Foundation saying we do have one statement that I guess they put out

28:15 late this afternoon with regard to the Russian effort which was successful to buy a controlling interest in this company and said Hillary Clinton herself did not participate in the review or direct the State Department to take any position on the sale of Uranium One, this company. Is that pretty much all they've said? Well, they have been—some of their answers have been quite general and they haven't answered a lot of our direct questions. This panel is one of the few in the United States government and the federal government that is actually exempt from public records, so we're not able to get any notes or minutes of these proceedings, and we don't know a lot about the deliberations on the panel. So, they have not provided us with a lot of information about what went on within the State Department about that. It's time.

29:05 It is time for the plan to be enacted. They've got too much going on, how do you clean up the Clinton Global Foundation initiative mess? And how do you turn the tide towards Hillary there's only one solution we all know it Bill's gotta go. Yeah well that can happen at any minute I'm sorry yeah he'd be...I think they're actually keeping him alive artificially at this point and i'm not really being coy or glib The man does not look well No. So this is her only way out? You know, it seemed to work with Scalia just a pillow over the head you know he was found... What happened in another did this isn't really not in the same league but This is kind of story that's very similar This is the replay this clip talking about getting rid of people But this is the Russian anti-doping story

28:15 late this afternoon with regard to the Russian effort which was successful to buy a controlling interest in this company and said Hillary Clinton herself did not participate in the review or direct the State Department to take any position on the sale of Uranium One, this company. Is that pretty much all they've said? Well, they have been—some of their answers have been quite general and they haven't answered a lot of our direct questions. This panel is one of the few in the United States government and the federal government that is actually exempt from public records, so we're not able to get any notes or minutes of these proceedings, and we don't know a lot about the deliberations on the panel. So, they have not provided us with a lot of information about what went on within the State Department about that. It's time.

29:05 It is time for the plan to be enacted. They've got too much going on, how do you clean up the Clinton Global Foundation initiative mess? And how do you turn the tide towards Hillary there's only one solution we all know it Bill's gotta go. Yeah well that can happen at any minute I'm sorry yeah he'd be...I think they're actually keeping him alive artificially at this point and i'm not really being coy or glib The man does not look well No. So this is her only way out? You know, it seemed to work with Scalia just a pillow over the head you know he was found... What happened in another did this isn't really not in the same league but This is kind of story that's very similar This is the replay this clip talking about getting rid of people But this is the Russian anti-doping story

30:04 Oh yes. Sports news now, two months after stepping down from his position the former Russian anti-doping director Nikita Kamyarov has died A Russian news agency says that the 52 year old suffered a heart attack He's the second former Russian anti doping chief to die within 2 weeks Russia was suspended from international athletics in November 2015 after allegations of widespread cheating and corruption See, Putin he knows how to do it. He is 52 and he died of a heart attack after he quit the anti-doping agency two...a couple weeks earlier the other guy who'd quit had also died under mysterious circumstances. Yeah, Putin doesn't pussyfoot around you know? This is why Hillary's wavering on she's really capable of running the empire

30:57 You have to be able to kill people. She may lose Nevada and she should win South Carolina because they hate Jews, let's just be blunt about it. Whoa whoa whoa I don't know why is this? South Carolina? They're the ones who started the Civil War. Yeah but the Civil War wasn't against Jews! No but if you're taking an entire state and saying that they're they're Jew-ophobic Well, let's see how many donations ever come in from South Carolina. One. We're not Jewish? No but we report on the Jewish media I'm just saying South Carolina is not a bunch of people that are amenable to... Okay they don't hate okay I take it all back yeah you should backing off yes I they do not hate Jews they just don't understand Jews and they don't like them

31:50 This is uh, okay. I had no idea you take a look at all you have to do is take a look at the The overnight for the Larry David show next to nothing maybe okay Alright, but I'm not gonna argue But I just think it's kind of you know are you do one all of South Carolina hates? Of course there's a bunch. There's a lot of Republicans in South Carolina mm-hmm God knows the Republicans don't hate Jews Funny no South Carolina is going to heal by a lot alright

32:26 And Nevada, which she expected just because she was so far ahead and never wanted to go there to say hello. She may lose that and that's not going to be good. That's the first election coming up and that actually could make her lose votes in South Carolina Trump should win South Carolina easily. So there were a couple of events last night on television I recorded both of them went back scanned through got as much as I could came up with a couple of things we had on MSNBC, we had their town hall which consisted of three sit-down interviews and Q&A sessions, starting with Ben Carson. Then there was Rubio and then Cruz simultaneously but although only one hour from 7 to 8 on MSNBC we had Trump sitting down for his own town hall with morning Joe guy and Mika the Elite And I pulled a couple clips from both Actually i have one first this is

33:31 Trump, you know now he's talking of this talk of maybe a third party run which I do not believe. But when he gets into these situations where he is able to talk calmly it gets better And a lot of his half sentences, he's able to complete some sentences. And sometimes he says things... Still I want to point something out. George Bush came around and gave a speech. He looked horrible man! He is horrible and he can barely...and he is reading it. Yeah, and he did not look good. No well he didn't want to be out there. He doesn't like to do anything but... But he looked just a little older than the average person.

34:09 But so he's reading the speech, blah and you know he's just blasting Trump if he can in some very wimpy way. And his brother is just pathetic and Trump has of course put these memes in our brains that Jeb is a wimp. Weak low energy. So we're stuck with that because we can't get that out of our heads because you watch him and then use those definitions to define people this how stereotyping works So you see, when you see Jeb... And so Jeb has to come out with this picture of him American. He's got a picture of his gun. He's got a .45 or something with it. Doesn't he know that'll get ya kicked off twit? You can't be doing that shit, Jeb! And then everyone gets all up in arms about that and is just like, he's an idiot. Yes. George is reading this. Trump is just off the top of his head. He is not reading anything. No no. He is just a gift-of-gab guy.

35:06 Now somebody came up with a very interesting little slam I want to just throw in. I think it's bullshit, but it's a good one. It was on Twitter and there was a picture of Trump and a bunch of photos...a lot of old photos with the caption somebody had traced, they had the link, somebody had traced the Trump family back to Germany to a specific village where the village in their region was known as The Village Of Braggarts. Right that's I'm not buying this at all, but I just thought it was great And his last name was kind of like trumpeting or something. It was some crazy about this here he is on the

35:53 RNC, the Republican National Committee been how they have been unfair to him. He likes using the unfair word a lot particularly as it comes to stacking the deck against him in these debates with insiders who are anything but for him. You saw it the other night during the debate I did well in the debate A lot of people said I won that debate But when I walked in and was like my wife was clapping My kids were clapping But the whole room was made up of special interests and donors, which is a disgrace from the RNC. The RNC better get its act together because you know I signed a pledge but the pledges in being honored by them. I signed a pledge that pledges in being honored by the RNC because those tickets were all special interest people but the RNC does a terrible job, a terrible job and just remember what I said remember in this room

36:43 I signed a pledge, but it's a double-edged pledge. And as far as I'm concerned, they're in default of their pledge. Please clap. Interesting here's something Trump does continuously would have started to notice when he says something that he feels is of import or pretty much after every line He'll repeat what he feels is important and what he just said so if I'm talking about donations are important then I continue for a second Donations are important you see and okay donations It's the sales pitch. Very very good at it very good And then this one you just gotta love this little bit.

37:21 We went after Iraq. They did not knock down the World Trade Center, okay? It wasn't the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center. We went after Iraq. We decimated the country. Iran's taken over, okay. But it wasn't the Iraqis... You will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center because they have papers in there that are very secret you may find its authorities Okay but you will find out WTC 7 won't go away! Oh Yeah, pullin' an oldie but goody out. Yes! You may find it's the Saudis. Well he'll get to that He will eventually be drafted for that no doubt No doubt And I have to say when he comes out and just says something that is ohhh ohh ohh For instance uh excuse me 9-11 happened on your brothers watch This has been the big thing this is like the third rail you can't say that

38:17 People should be appreciative of what he's saying. There is a lot of interesting, good stuff that he has thrown out there and I believe this has now risen to the point Where people are very very very worried in political circles and President Obama proves that by coming out with this long Convoluted speech where he wigs out John the president wigs out at the end. Yeah, he's taught He wigs out he got you went Wiggy Wiggy Wiggy Wiggy This is a perfectly good term from Ida. Where does that come from wigs out? I think it comes from the week the beat mix the beat mix of

38:53 It kind of a term in the jazz club. Don't wig out man, don't we got man? Hey man seriously don't wig out But he did and he's any while He says oh it's not just Trump isn't its every is not just trumpet but it's not just trumpet It's it's kind of all about Trump I don't think it's restricted by the way to mr.. Trump Oh, I mean I find it interesting that everybody's focused on trump primarily Just because he says in more interesting ways what? the other candidates are saying as well. Thank you for making that point! So he may up the ante in anti-Muslim sentiment but if you look at what... He really hasn't done that in a week or two, he hasn't upped any ante on the anti-Muslim sentiment? That's lie! Republican candidates have said it and that is pretty troubling too. He may express strong anti immigration sentiment but

39:47 You've heard that from the other candidates as well. He's not anti-immigration! They're all denying climate change, I think that's troubling to the international community since the science is unequivocal It's in it's unequivocal and you can't stop us The science is in And y'know... The other countries around the world they kinda count on the United States Being on the side of science and reason. To lead the scam! To lead the scam, indeed you're right On the side of science and reason And common sense Because they know that if the... Have you noticed Trump is now also saying he's a common-sense conservative?

40:25 This is a nice little trick he's pulled. I like that! Take the Obama- Yeah, yeah, I have heard that. Common sense rules and regulations and turn it into...I'm the common sense conservative Because they know that if the United States does not act on big problems in smart ways nobody will But this is not just Mr Trump Look at the statements that are being made by the other candidates. You might die! There's not a single candidate in the Republican primary... He didn't really say that. ...that thinks we should do anything about climate change, that thinks it serious. Well, that's a problem. The rest of world looks at them and says how can they be? And they says how can they be?! So this is where the wig out starts John

41:10 They looked at it and said, how can that be? You might die. How can that be? And its not a matter of pandering and doing whatever will get you in the news on a given day. And sometimes it requires you making hard decisions even when people don't like it." Here we go! Because being the president is hard, and this where he goes into full wig-out mode but he needs to communicate that this A-hole... Who does he think he is? Who does he think he's...? He could just walk in and do his job This Is A Hard Job Mr Trump. "...and doing things that are unpopular and standing up for people who are vulnerable but don't have some powerful political constituency. And it requires being able to work with leaders around the world in a way that reflects the importance of the office

42:00 and gives people confidence that you know the facts, and you know their names. And you know where they are on a map. This is getting... Okay! You don't- you can't read a map, you morons! You know something about their history. I'm not just gonna play to the crowd back home because they have their own crowds back home. And you're trying to solve problems but as you get closer reality has a way of intruding Alright. And these are the folks who who i have faith in Cuz they ultimately are gonna say whoever's standing where I'm standing right now has the nuclear codes with him. Oh boy He's pulling out the finger on the button nuclear code meme and can order 21 year olds into a firefight he can kill your children and have to make sure that The banking system doesn't collapse. Oh, I'm protecting all of you

42:53 and is often responsible for not just the United States of America but 20 other countries that are having big problems or falling apart and are gonna be looking for us to do something. Because you're king of the world! And American people are pretty sensible, oh yeah I think they'll make a sensible choice in the end You might die Man That's that's bad. That is what you went on and on about as well You know you can't be a so you put together such, you know A celebrity or celebrity and you run a reality show ignoring that he have you know owned an airline He ran a real estate development company built hotels And done real development work, and he's been bankrupt four times owned casinos I mean this guy is not some guy sitting on his ass

43:39 compared to Obama's background of being a community organizer, a part-time senator. Which he didn't do much and then now he is the president I mean there is no comparison in terms of world experience so he is full of crap this guy. Yeah it was really not but he is very worried because it was only about Trump. He is worried? Let me throw couple things in here One could be worried because Trump It's such a loose cannon that he may actually initiate war criminal charges against some people that used to be president like Bush and Obama. That would be possible? That would scare me if I was president because that has never happened, but it could happen and in fact many of the people who wrote the Constitution up until about the 1900 were wondering you know they expected according to some historians it was expected that many presidents would be impeached

44:33 They didn't just say, in fact I think Madison was the one that somebody said well if Madison was alive today to be stunned then nobody was impeached at all this time. So there's this sort of thing. For his own hide is what you're saying? The other thing is that I'm going to just go out on a limb and, now I hate to do this but I'm gonna predict that the possibility exists that somebody in Trump's family could be killed as a warning to Trump to make sure he stays in line with the rest of these guys Well, we know that the last time there was a serious contender which was Ross Perot. He came out and said they threatened my family I'm done goodbye see you later right? That was the end of it Yeah well but Ross perot was running outside this system So who would so who to be can we would it be one of the sons or does he go straight for a grandkid one Of the kids oh, it doesn't go for even accident. It doesn't go free Ivanka yeah

45:37 We want to just something just a little white little or just you know some accident and maybe not even delay with just a sudden disappearance Kidnapping would be that kind of thing, and then we had put it past anybody oh They're Ted Stevens look at some of these guys as you look at our Supreme Court guy There's all this talk. That's crazy good the conspiracy stuff is outrageous It said he was why did he go to this place in the first place? It's an Obama France supposedly Obama was in the plane they were discussing something yeah apparently Obama was supposed to leave from Andrews the same time as Scalia and The word is it was followed by multiple f-16 s This is the

46:18 The military G5 that's... how nice is that? The military G-5 that Scalia used to fly to Texas. Yeah, now Scalia flies around and he doesn't normally have an F15 escort the word is that Obama was in that jet That's why these military escorts Exactly And they were discussing something and apparently Scalia said no. And then he wound up dead with a pillow over his head How sad! With no autopsy It's just so annoying So annoying. And this is exactly the reason, by the way and I said that with meaning that I did not announce what I was doing for Valentine's Day with Tina the Keeper when we went on a biplane ride open cockpit over Austin. Yeah you tweeted the picture after the after the fact. Where'd you take that picture where the camera from 1860? Yes yes it was a pinhole camera now that's like it's the guy so but for four months no ever since I've been here

47:17 Almost every day if it's nice weather I see this red biplane flying over and like that's pretty interesting And I just think some guys see my you see my note on Twitter. No, what'd you say? I had a line for you when you sent that thing out There was no machine guns in the front of that You don't even pay attention to anything I do I saw it just it wasn't funny so I didn't remember it was hilarious okay So we got two lol oh The town hall. So you saw the biplane is flying around and then I actually tracked it down? I searched Biplane Austin, and guess what?

47:56 read by plane Austin calm and You know this is a former f-16 pilot. Yeah, it's very hard to make money in aviation and So he leases or rents out the plane yeah He just does these little packages you know you we had the sunset Over Austin package, and then we had nice little champagne in a sippy cup as we're flying in the open air. It was fun, it was a lot of...it was nice. Champagne in a sippy cup has got to be an experience! Whoa! Especially because this guy's like, you know, hey yeah your pilot? Okay watch this and whenever you hear a pilot say watch this that's usually the end of your life doing wing overs and stuff that was cool anyway back to uh back to what we're talking about so we had two town halls I've got a couple of clips

48:48 that was interesting and I, you know this is like the oldest dumbest thing in the book that you can do. I don't know why Trump fell for it. I really don't know why Mika Brzezinski, the elite daughter did it because it's just rude when you have a guest is one of the first things she did but the minute Trump sat down and here it is. I wanted to describe a candidate to you. The candidate is considered a political outsider by all opponents he's tapping into the anger populist message. He believes everyone in the country should have health care, he advocates for hedge fund managers to pay higher taxes, he's drawing thousands of people at his rallies and bringing in a lot of new voters um...to the political process and he is not beholden to any super PAC who am I describing? Or any special interests or donors you're describing Donald Trump Actually I was describing Bernie Sanders

49:46 Oh, that's so funny. I'll tell you this one thing that we're very similar on he knows that our country is being ripped off big league big league on trade The problem is he can't do anything about it. He's not going to be able to do worse, I'm gonna have two things because he doesn't understand that. I mean, he doesn't understand what's happening but he does know that China and these other countries are ripping us off Mexico you see carrier moving down they're moving down to Mexico Nabisco is moving the whole thing is crazy what's going on with Mexico so he went on and on with this for a little bit something he did I feel explained being over he overexplained him but I think that's pretty good in these types of television circumstances

50:25 about China's devaluation of their currency and how it is hurting American business. And you do the show with Horowitz, the DH Unplugged. Do you want to just explain? Because I think he's right about this. He keeps hammering on China's not playing fair and we did just have a big currency devaluation from China which was like 6% or 7%. It went back up on its own The fact if you go to the horror with sort of the DHM plug website we have some charts There's been a couple of charts that Andrew has developed uh-huh and that's one of them so currency Push down is not necessarily what it looks to be. What do you want? Well, I mean is all there is this somewhat bogus let's put it that way hmm Okay, the Chinese would love to get did you know get their numbers back up but it's not gonna happen mmm

51:18 But their currency going down does present a problem for us no matter how it happens. Well, yes because it makes their stuff even cheaper than it already is but it presents a problem for them too. Well we don't care about the Chinese people. They have to do twice as much... well that's what they're good at! What would you do if they stopped making everything and next thing you know we have no capabilities of producing anything? The Chinese are having a civil war. Or will have no cheap handheld ham radios. Actually all the expensive stuff was made there too They've just taken over manufacturing the problem the real number to look at and Trump's right about this But is the manufacturing numbers that keep going down every quarter down and down and down we still make a lot of stuff. Yeah, I hear Apple has Shortened their working hours for all of their freelancers in the stores like you know people were doing Maybe four days a week part-time they've scaled that back well. I have not heard this yeah That's inside info

52:17 And I think that's very relevant. Well, my thinking was always the following which is that when one Apple store closes, the apples topped it reaches peak as a stock has one when those stores start to close and that's the time to look for other strategies Onward with Trump, he finally was asked the question about his military spending. I want to make this the strongest military! I'm going to rebuild our military... And of course the question is yeah what are you gonna do that with? Where's the money coming from? Finally asked and answered. I was being hit by everybody finger in the button. I'm the one-the only one that said don't go into Iraq so don't tell me about finger on the button

52:57 I want to build our military so strong, so powerful that nobody's going to mess with us. So what does that mean? Is that more money too? No it's more money but its cheap compared to what we're doing right now. Nobody respects us right now they don't respect us But are you talking about bigger defense budgets because right now were already spending over $500 billion. No I'm talking about better negotiated defense budgets Do you know that we're buying equipment the generals and the colonels and people in the field don't want because these companies have political contacts So much of it has to do with the fact that I'm self-funding my campaign, and I can do whatever I want. And this is the point that he should be hammering home more and more We're buying equipment we don't even want because certain companies have better political skills... ...and you see it all the time! They're getting a plane they don't want if they want the other one or could've gotten a cheaper one

53:41 but to get this one because we are going to have a better stronger military and we're gonna watch it so much We will save so much money Joe. There is so much corruption There is so much waste and abuse in the military and elsewhere, but we're gonna build our military strong It's the cheapest thing we can do Yeah I think it's probably gonna be Ivanka's new kid when that kid is born and they'll probably kill that one Yeah, it's gonna be that close. It'll be something... This is not- I mean this is really poking the bear! Oh yeah, corruption in the media. That's why the Defense Department has never been audited. That's why our defense budget is bigger than every defense budget in the world combined. Yes

54:24 And what do we get out of it? And everyone's saying, how does that make sense with the Rubios and the Bushes and the rest of them saying oh, that is been good. The military has been gutted! It's been gutted by Obama. How hasn't been gutted?! It is the biggest there is in the world and they can be audited its so big. And excuses for not being audited are all well you know old cobalt Skip logic, COBOL. Most of the world is COBOL. Now something Trump has been talking about a lot and which I finally had time to look up is he talks about fraud and abuse within the Social Security Administration and I looked up a report in Office of Audit Report Summary from the OIG

55:16 And Trump is, he typically runs around saying there's thousands of people who are 106 years old and they're still getting payments. That probably doesn't sound right and I looked into this report that he may be underestimating it Yes, and this has something to do with a topic that we discussed back in the 500 episodes called the master death file. Do you recall that conversation? No I do not! The MDF, the master death file... there was regulation passed that this would no longer be made readily available so the master death file every year they put on the names and social security numbers of the people who are dead

55:55 And this is then given out to one central organization, I have the name here somewhere. And they subsequently sell that information to banks and lenders etc. So, the master death file access was limited. So you and I can't just find out until...I think it's three or five years after. You know we'll be three to five years later with the public release and all these commercial companies that are able to get this information up front. And the reasoning for that as i went back and listened to that show and looked at the show notes—and we still have articles in The Show Notes about that. You can find it search.nashownotes.com

56:35 was, you know people were getting a hold of these master death records and then they were using the social security numbers. It's not like there couldn't be any fraud being used by the banks and in fact I submit maybe according to this report they identified approximately six-and-a-half million number holders that's Social Security Number Holders who are aged 112 or older and have no death information on the Pneumodent. That is the record that is created for people who've died, that's a lot! And the Social Security Administration did track down about 6 million of those but still approximately 1.4 million non-beneficiary payment records had not been recorded with the death information on the Pneumodents so this much bigger than thousands

57:30 Much, much bigger. And I'm thinking these A-holes they give that master death file...I'm sorry it's actually the DMF, the Death Master File to the banks Lord knows what they're doing with it! That's where your fraud may be taking place. Very interesting report marked up in the show notes. This sort of thing is all too rife with the government The 60 Minutes did a thing and I've seen other reports about the greatest scam going on right now is filing a fake IRS report asking for a refund. And then having because it's all messed up, the IRS... They're in the middle of transitioning to everything digital and they're scanning everything this will be a quagmire for decades

58:19 Because you know it's probably all cobalt and skip logic. Oh my God be how are we gonna do all that? How are we going to the end of the they keep getting hacks the IRS is a complete mess right now You should anybody just probably try and file them for a refund you'll get it They gave me a refund I didn't ask for this The way this scam works at the high levels by the pros and apparently according to one guy was on the show He says yeah, there's seminars about this like criminal seminars. They get a bunch of people in the room and they tell them how to do it, that's exactly what you get to any old social security number. You put the thing in there... It's a webinar! No, there is a key to success on this and I noticed this when I was at Target last time The key to success is that because they try make as much electronic, make it as much electronic as possible you have the money

59:13 not sent as a check, the refunds. Not sent as a check but it's sent as a direct deposit into a credit card account and these are the cards you buy The untraceable cards that you buy at Target they have a fixed amount of money on them It's like people use this like a debit card or its like a cashcard but its has the number for credit card So you buy this card and then give them that number Right And then the IRS just puts that in there now Its gone for good You can't find out where that went That's a great way to fund podcasting. Just thinking... And with that, before we move on to more I think it is time too thank you very much for your courage and passion love and light and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for Consigliere divorak

59:59 Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curney, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to everybody who supported our program for the past 800 episodes, in the morning to everyone showing up once again in the chat room noagendastream.com very happy to have y'all on board thank you very much to our artists. Season 137 brought us the album art for episode 799er this was The Adderall Vape And Tina and I came up with a new business strategy actually based upon that. Yeah? Yeah, and I've even got the domain name we just need some content which people can start creating Here it is you ready? I'm all ears VapeYourKale.com Think about it Kale e-juice Yeah yeah think you're kale You can be administering healthy vitamin k

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1:01:50 Uh, in Brooklyn. $800 haven't donated in a few years he says and uh, you know we get organized here Keep on keepin', keep on keeping' on You guys hit me up with a Lebowski, Lebowski new shit has come to light and then Achemtrails And thank you very much for your fabulous donation I've got information man! New shit has come to light! Trails You've got karma. Here we go Thank you kicking it off Yeah, you know you caught me off guard here with this spreadsheet thing out of the blue Oh I'm sorry It's pretty much time I'm just trying yeah i know but i didn't have the Spreadsheet open and the problem i'm having now is that when i try to shrink The cell so i can actually make them big enough to read yes This crazy undocking thing takes place in a

1:02:49 And it makes it so, you know I have to deal with this. Yeah! It's only been a hundred episodes... But now it's like I've got the thing set up and it won't-I can't get the cells to change size. I can't reformat the cells and when I go to the thing I want to get half of the-I don't understand You're gonna have to read this until I get this fixed. Sir Bashir and Harrow, Middlesex UK $800. This is their second 800 dollars super executive producer. Dear John and Adam congratulations on making 800 shows of the best podcast in the universe it has already been said The service you provide is invaluable To the many producers who appreciate the value give them that contributes to their well-being and sanity

1:03:33 Can I please get a shot of coding karma as i'm studying to get into javascript web development and a jingle selection of both you choosing? Thank you for your courage. Keep up the great work, and here's to 800 more from Sir Bashir with an $800 donation Uh we have the karma forum. I don't know if there's anything uh any particular jingle You want to follow that up with um oh, I don't really Here comes his karma then We'll do that in a minute Hey man fist bump! You've got Karma We have Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Sir, sir Trevor Mudge. Yes, in Ann Arbor and he said just says N-A now you may have sent a note I Have keep up the great work free speech is close to extinction so I'm counting on NA oh yeah, I have the My spread shirt my spread shirt my spread shirt is working Vape some kale baby! I'm gonna have to

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1:05:26 This donation brings me to 3041, which I think means Barony. However, I've never been very responsible can you just change me from Sir Joseph Frost to Sir Jojo the Network Chimp? Consider it done Then i'll be satisfied he says All right and we'll give him a karma because came in as an executive producer and we appreciate it You've got karma Steven Voorhees Schnecksville, Pennsylvania I guess. $333 and 33 cents. And as he says, oh, just struggling here sorry.

1:06:09 Hold on, hold on. In the morning John and Adam first off big congratulation on 800 episodes after being called out as a douchebag by my co-worker Derby Dyke A few months ago I figured it was time high time that i put up or shut up and make my contribution to the best podcast universe I've been a non contributing boner for several years now since my buddy Josh Starr hit me in the mouth So, I hope this donation clears me of my douchebaggery. A recent promotion and raise I received in my dude-name Ben job clearly shows that job karma works so I'm taking this opportunity to pay it back. I find your podcast to be informative and highly entertaining and look forward to many more years of laughs and insights! I'd like to wish a happy belated Valentine's Day to my girlfriend Caroline

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1:07:39 And if you can put an oh my god, that's amazing at the end he would like that too. Okay I think i can do that deduce You've been de-douche it's almost too delicious to believe my friend Oh my gosh Can you see that juice? Get out of my vagina! You've got karma Well take some credit for that That was good Michael, you're on a roll. Michael Hanson Everett, Massachusetts, that's 2328 and he goes on and says... In celebration of show 800 here is as many quarters dimes nickels and pennies or here is as many as something general purpose karma for all contributors please and I'll whoop him with the Constitution boom shakalaka for good measure not sure what I do without you guys thanks for your courage

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1:09:52 70 West that's good. You guys are shining a shining light the dark jungle of native advertising corporate and head-shrinking John John I totally agreed that ISO calm down scream is the new Wilhelm get it get with it Hollywood Where do we get that thing anyway? Don't quite remember you got it from somewhere was uh, I don't know It was from something. I don't know if it's one of the ones that works. We have two versions, one with and one without the scream so he wants to scream with it which is good we'll do that one. John, hometowns pronounce O-CALA not OH-KOLAH. Oh-Calah What'd I say? Oh-Calah? Oh-Calah! Should be oh-callah, I said oh-callah. Okay whatever. Gotcha Alright what've got now? Uh... What does he want? He wants a resist wee much

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1:11:48 What it says is back office notes do not read. The word may not get this email, something auto blocked for just to add and get both news I don't know if there's a valentine related Valentine's Day uh don't know oh there's another thing okay we will put this off or and this is Jack Smith will just have to talk to jack about what needs to happen here. It's been confusing and it's blacked out Ryan McCullough in Port Townsend Washington which is uh Let's just go back I have a note here it says line 11 Jack Smith his note was included in the last show as he missed The cutoff for the Valentine's Day show, but that wasn't good

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1:16:50 It didn't hit the house, I don't think. There was lightning and thunder. The lightning flash was probably... Just a millisecond before it went off? If you're really close to lightening you don't really get to hear the thunder You hear a crack And it's a very horrible feeling crack. But it's because the low note that Lightning Thunder is, takes awhile to form. Those are bass notes. Bass notes take forever to form. This must have been right at the formation of the note because it scared the crap out of me! I actually jumped. Well, I'm glad you passed that on to us

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1:24:15 People who have harm and dark in their heart, who are using their phones in any way. They're not using a message to communicate. They're using a second layer of encryption using that same public technology that can encrypt their messages and who they're talking to In an app on the phone so the minute they get in there. They're gonna find encrypted channels This is they talked about this on The No Agenda show where basically I like that be here with the Host does Jeff Ward when he says they talk about this on no agenda, which I like there's his throat you know He goes hmm. No it wasn't I cleared his throat. It was more like a hmm Was something bit more here we go

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1:26:06 And there is no reason you can't be out there helping us by propagating our... Just do it! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens. Shut up! Squirrel! So while we're on that topic of encryption let us move over to the big well actually both of the tone halls last night but first I'll bring out Trump because the same question was asked

1:26:46 As the first question, one of the first questions actually on his little town hall as was it the first question for the other three Republican hopefuls for the nomination. Yes, hopefuls and we'll start with Donald Trump this is about the RIT, the court has issued Apple computers to assist in unlocking the iPhone 5C that belonged to one of the San Bernardino terrorists. Here is Trump's reaction to the question Nobody around our table understood this morning why Apple would not help the government in cracking into the phone

1:27:36 the iPhone of one of the two terrorists in San Bernardino. First of all, do you think Apple is in the wrong? And secondly if you are President Donald Trump what do you as far as changing laws to make tech companies comply with the needs of the government? Now this important question particularly for the No Agenda audience and we will discuss this topic a little bit after you've heard the candidates speak about it This is something that people know about in our little crowd here, in our little cabal, our little clan. So you can hear now what these presidential hopefuls really have to say about it and what their understanding of the technology and of policy. Well, you know the interesting thing is... Oops! Sorry. I think its disgraceful that Apple isn't helping on that. I think security first and I've always felt security first

1:28:27 Apple should absolutely, we should force them to do it. We should do whatever we have to do and I guess he wants to be a good liberal and he doesn't want to give the information but on that as an example those two people killed 14 people there were other people that Saw the bombs laying all over floors. It wasn't like a normal apartment you had bombs laying all over the floor You had all sorts of ammunition you at all sorts of everything in that apartment people knew that I'd like to know who else knew it because they're almost as guilty and maybe just As guilty, I think you have to be able to correct that and I think Apple is absolutely in there wrong Okay So we have Trump's vision is very clear apples in the wrong They have to comply with the court

1:29:07 But I'm pretty sure he has no understanding of what's really happening because he thinks that Apple somehow magically can unlock the information, which is not true as we'll find out in a moment. Now over to the CNN town hall with Ben Carson Ben no longer qualifies as far as I'm concerned, as a president. Well you know the interesting thing is that Apple and probably a lot of other people don't necessarily trust the government these days and there's probably very good reason for people not to trust the government

1:29:43 But we're going to have to get over that because right now, we're faced with tremendous threats and individuals radical jihadists who want to destroy us. And we're gonna have to weigh these things one against the other I believe that what we need is a public-private partnership Really? Oh, that'll solve it. Apple needs to sit down with trustworthy members of the government. And that may have to wait until the next election, I don't know. But we'll see they need to sit down with people they can trust and hammer out a relationship. Okay he has no idea what's going on does not understand at all if the idea of a public-private partnership Have you read any bills recently? Have you heard about the Cyber Information Sharing Act are you a moron yeah sorry you are

1:30:51 Now on to Rubio. Is Rubio a lawyer? That's a funny question, it just hit me almost. I thought he was a rutabaga farmer...I guess not. I don't know! He might be and i'll look him up while you play the clip. The answer is yes he's an attorney Oh, okay. So he is trying to put- lay down some attorney smack here It's a very complicated issue and I'll tell you why it's about encryption today By the way chat room says no no He's not a lawyer he's a homosexual come on chat room let's stay on message here shall we? It's a very complicated issue and I'll tell you why it's about encryption

1:31:33 Today, there's encryption now. I think it's standard on the new Apple and what it does is it protects your privacy if you lose your iPad or you lose your phone no one can hack into it and get your information so that's why its there here's the thing though If we passed a law that required Apple in these companies to create a backdoor number one criminals could figure that out and use it against you And number two There's already encrypted software that exists not only now but in the future created another countries We would not be able that

1:32:16 could lead us to preventing future crimes or future attacks, future terrorist attacks. And so I think we're going to have to figure out a way forward by working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry." He's really got to stop with the Silicone Valley man! That's really... not just once but twice it's Silicon, not silicone. "...gonna have to figure out a way forward by working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry on this..." Oh God he is such an idiot that That by itself is just disqualifying. So I think so, you cannot be president. Working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry on this. Steve Jobs! There has to be a way to deal with this issue that... There was a time when people said Steve Jobs, I remember that. Yeah. Deal with this issue that continues to protect privacy... And another computer which ran DOS. It's running DOS?

1:33:03 And we still have the argument over GIF and Jif. Hello fascism hi, I think this all pile hot well We'll get to that in a moment But I want to discuss it but let's we have one more and that is Ted Cruz who has you didn't get Jeb Bush They didn't have jeb bush on the stage The he said like he said please tap. I think is what he said oh

1:33:45 Here is Cruz, of course eight times before the Supreme Court. Very accomplished lawyer nine times and here we go well and listen I think Apple has a serious argument that they should not be forced to put a backdoor in every cell phone everyone has that creates a real security exposure for hackers for cyber criminals to break into our cell phones so i think apple has the right side on the global don't make us do this every iPhone on the market But I think law enforcement has the better argument. This concerns the phone of one of the San Bernardino hackers And for law enforcement to get a judicial search order, that's consistent with the Fourth Amendment. That's how the Bill of Rights operates To say Apple open this phone not Anderson's phone Not everyone here open this phone But Apple says they can't do that and it is new operating software that basically would be available on everybody's phone Well but they wouldn't have to put in everyone's phone I believe that Apple anyone nobody has a right to defy a legal search warrant

1:34:43 And the way our process works, look banks all the time keep financial records and if you or I are a terrorist. If we're a drug dealer and a search warrant is served on your bank they can get your financial records that's how the law enforcement system works It's really interesting he uses himself in Anderson as criminals but it's another thing i just wouldn't really do The system works and the Bill of Rights prevents the government from seizing our information without any evidence. But when you have a criminal, when you have a terrorist... We know the San Bernardino terrorists were radical Islamic terrorists if the Obama administration

1:35:21 We're not in this politically correct state of denial, ignoring that it is radical Islamic terrorism. We should have done more to prevent that attack but after the fact we oughta be using every tool we can to ascertain who else they might be in contact with if there's a broader cell so of course we should unlock their phones and find out who they're talking to what text they are sending and thats a basic matter keeping this country safe Okay, so I think Cruz comes pretty close. Although he doesn't understand everything He may not have really understood what the writ was and before you and I deconstructed this like to read the three points in the In the order from the court what Apple needs to do This is something that has not been viewed by people who understand it And the news media everyone talking about apple unlocking something that is not what is happening here

1:36:12 They'll tell you exactly what the court has ordered and then we can take it from there. For good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that... Number one, Apple shall assist in enabling the search of a cellular telephone. And then they have the iPhone C model 1532 that has the serial number it has the IMEI number they know it's on the Verizon network and they're calling out the subject device here we go Apple's reasonable technical assistance shall accomplish the following three important functions One It will bypass or disable the auto erase function whether or not it has been enabled Two

1:36:49 It will enable the FBI to submit passcodes to the subject device for testing electronically via the physical device port, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or other protocols available on the subject device. And three it will ensure that when the FBI submits passcodes to these subject devices software running on the device will not purposely introduce any additional delay between passcode attempts beyond what is incurred by Apple's hardware Apple's reasonable technical assistance may include but is not limited to providing the FBI with a signed iPhone software file, recovery bundle or other software image file that can be loaded onto the subject device. The software image file referred to as SIF

1:37:34 will load and run from random access memory, and will not modify the OS on the actual phone. The user data partition or system partition on the device's flash memory. The CIF will be coded by Apple with a unique identifier of the phone so that the CIF would only load and execute on the subject device The SIF will be loaded via device firmware upgrade, that's the DFU mode recovery mode or other applicable mode available to the FBI. Once active on the subject device, the SIF will accomplish the three functions specified in paragraph two. This will be loaded on the subject device at either a government facility or alternatively an Apple facility if the latter Apple shall provide the government with remote access to the subject device through computer-aligned government to conduct passcode recovery analysis

1:38:19 So here is what I think is happening. And I'm very curious to hear your opinion It appears to me that Tom Collins over there at Apple messed up. He was sure he had it all locked up and all, you know they could never nail Apple down because it's all encrypted we can't do anything and someone was very smart and said You know what? We don't want...you can't unlock the phone but you can get through that encryption you don't have the key fine You're going to give us something, a piece of...a new operating system which we then the FBI will load onto that phone and it will disable the 10 tries you're now 10 tries your locked out. Now this is the 5C did not have a Touch ID fingerprint scanner it only has lock code

1:39:10 Then, due to the specifications of the court what the FBI then will do is since that lockout function is removed and they can try as many combinations of the passcode as possible. They're going to use brute force and will eventually crack it certainly if its older 5c may still have someone may stil be using 4 digit pin code instead of the new 6 And it is my opinion, the opinion of my court that Apple has to do this. Tim Cook is out there crying saying oh they're using an old law the law of writ well yeah what is law in the country? You're allowed to issue warrants now a legal opinion that might be sought is you know can you force someone to create a tool to help you execute a search warrant Is that necessary

1:40:05 I think yes. Um, but I don't like it. But I do not see where there is a legal...where Apple has any legal standing to not do this. I'm kind of on the side that why should you be forced to design a tool? Well that's the question! That is the question. And the further question is whoever wrote that knows something Yeah, it's not like a trivial you have to unlock the phone and it all but no It also shows us that Apple definitely has a way to do stuff on your phone without you knowing it So they definitely have some you know, they have some hooks. They can do some stuff yeah there somethings up now and I appreciate why he can't mm-hmm

1:40:55 Why can't the NSA do this? Why can't they write the tool?" No, no. That's the problem because they're saying that they need to have a new version of the operating system and it disables the lockout function. The NSA still has to crack the phone. This is not Apple opening their phone... Okay let's back up on just what you said. Why doesn't the government require a copy of the operating system and let the NSA rewrite it? The reason why is all of Apple's OS, and it's in this writ. All of Apple's iOS has a key pair and you cannot just load a new OS onto the phone unless it has Apple's key allowing it to run on the phone. In this case, the government is saying

1:41:46 Let them create a one-time key for this device only, which apparently Apple can do. And that way you will never be able to use this on a broad scale But only Apple can create because they hold the key to their software being able to run Only they can create this one version of the OS and I know people in chat room are calling me an a-hole right now but i'm just looking at law I'm just looking at law. And Tom Collins messed up, he messed up! Tim Cook messed up and that's why he is all in arms because he thought he had locked down and someone said wait a minute this is the way we can do it. Hold on a second you're telling me... okay I see what your going to say He made a mistake and jumped to conclusions before having a few meetings? I think so

1:42:40 It could be, because that note came out real fast. I think he messed up both in thinking they could never be forced to do anything and Apple has great lawyers so how they could ever miss this one? I don't think you ran it past them. Possible. Because Apple lawyers are great and they would not allow him to write that note Now, a lot of conferences. So the question is can you be forced by the government to create...if so if the government says okay we have a warrant and we need to get this device but you manufactured it you have to help us in executing the search warrant that's the question? I think I guess this boils down to that question

1:43:24 Yeah. And I don't know that you have to! That's the question Here, here is the phone You've got the damn phone Crack it yourself They're not being asked to crack it. That's why it is such an interesting legal position, they are being asked to help... Well now they are just being asked to do work for free maybe if they hired them... Oh no! No, they actually said that Apple shall advise the government of the reasonable cost of providing this service so thats all in there. So they add the cost or will pay em? Oh yeah oh yeah. To the extent that Apple believes the compliance with this order should be unreasonably burdensome, it should make an application to this court for relief within five business days. Which of course they're going to appeal this obviously but I think it's a... It's an interesting loophole. They should appeal it let the judicial system figure it out work it out and if Apple has to do what they have to do. They're going to... I wouldn't have said that an hour ago

1:44:27 Right, because you didn't have all the information like most people when they're talking about this. And I'm happy that at least we got the information but when you listen to Cruz who i think does know constitutional law... You know for Tim Cook to come out and say They were using a law from 1784. Yeah, that's one of the basis of the Fourth Amendment is that you can be forced to open up if a warrant is issued. The question is how does that apply to creating tools... Here's what Cook says and what he claims

1:45:05 And why they have, and people should read my column on error 53 while they're at it. Yeah that's... John that is not coincidental this has something to do with this whole thing But the iPhone 6 is constructed with a different kind of self-destructing mechanism This will self destruct in 30 seconds It's a little different I think and its probably more onerous and might be even impossible to break but the guy using iPhone 5 C, when it was a yellow one. Yeah and that's... It's the iPhone of terrorists! The C. No one bought that thing except terrorists how about that? And that's the one where if you get ahold of somebody's iPhone 5 and it's locked put about 10 past just jump punch in a bunch of stuff as fast as you can before he takes it back yeah then it'll erase itself. It'll erase itself yeah now to me all this is a big red herring

1:46:03 the way I see it, and i've read multiple opinions but I don't believe it at all. I think that this is just distracting everyone away from the fact that if the police stop you and they say unlock your iPhone and you say no then all they have to do is get your finger on the button And... On the new iPhone. Yeah, I disable that! I don't have the.. I mean i got a six pin code for you to get into my iphone but im not using the touch ID to get into it and people say oh no you can do because capacitance believe me biological hacking can be done You can replicate a thumbprint or fingerprint It can be done is much easier than trying to crack encryption with brute force Well I have

1:46:52 Nexus phone and I don't have of course it doesn't have a fingerprint thing, and I don't use a passcode Why what am I? I don't care. There's nothing on the phone a couple photos of Mac and cheese Every time we go to the store. I seem to oh yes John are you of the nothing to hide No, it's not a matter of nothing to hide. I'm not stupid enough to put stuff that i want to hide on my phone! Mm-hmm...I'm sure there's plenty of stuff. Stuff that we text back and forth? There's lots of stuff you don't want out there that's on your phone. I erase all that stuff. I erase all my texts. Do you erase your digs? The only thing is if any values in my contact list which is not just my contact lists but apparently a bunch of phones that I borrowed had different contact lists and I've accumulated this huge contact list It's probably valuable

1:47:39 You erase your text every couple of days when you pick up your phone because mine were sitting there waiting for you I don't know about that. Yeah, no dick pics to Mimi come on We know you do it and now everybody does it John come on? I do not take dick pics So no, I don't have any bunch of crap on my phone like that. I don't have a million text messages... You know it's all the trend! Other hosts are putting genitals on their phones. Well good for them! You should give it a try! Yeah well bottom line I believe Apple will be forced to do this

1:48:25 I think they will have to comply and we'll see how high up Tim is going to play. Well, they have to handle it but if he had not sent that note out in the first place and said... He says it's possible... And send a note out explaining that it's possible to crack this one phone without creating any problem whatsoever, unless you...each phone would have to individually be cracked by Apple. So any criminal intent would have to be through the Apple company? Let's take that away. They are not cracking the phone. This is not what they're being asked to do. You have to stop that in the conversation. They're being asked to create a tool to help law enforcement

1:49:00 unlock the phone based on an individual device, which is the whole point. The master... There's nothing wrong with that then? I don't think so! If it's actually the individual device that's at risk then there's not a problem because it doesn't mean everybody and their sister and every cyber criminal can get into everyone's iPhones. Which is the big fear Right, and so this is not creating that. What we've been seeing what you're telling us I think this is a good report Thank you because I just watched the thing guy from the electronic frontier foundation going on and on Jack it sounds as though as though everybody is full of crap They're just blathering on which would include me because I went on Tom like yesterday to throw my two cents in but It was really to plug the show 800 We know who you were really doing

1:49:51 But you do want to take back what you said now, of course. What'd I say? I don't know! If you said the same thing your opinion has changed now... No, it's just that I've already said my opinion is for him and Apple to knuckle under and show obedience to the government. From the chatroom, Curry's got dick pics on his phone except they're not his. Thanks, chat room. But indeed, when it comes to encryption no one seems to have their heads on straight about this. Even Tina the Keeper has a secure vault app on her phone

1:50:28 for stuff she wants to keep safe. You know, the joke of this of course is there's nothing on the phone. I mean they already have it meditated and we know who the guy called... Yeah So what more do they want? This is a matter of principle and I think as much as I respect Tim Cook, I think he messed it up! I think he jumped the gun He wasn't thinking to come out and pull the 1784 but you can do that for everything that's constitutionally arranged And that was weak That was very weak of him Now, I still don't mind but I think that is...I think constitutionally the court has it right. But- Well, I think you nailed that one down. If there was a clip you'd get Clip of the Day. Thank you. You can read all the marked up stuff in The Show Notes obviously. Let me see do we have anything else for now? Yeah, what is it?

1:51:28 One more thing here. What do I have? I've Rubio, yeah, Rubio had a weird... He was talking about it and someone asked him a question about education and he goes in this long thing but oh yes the woman who asked the question she said you know i'm studying to be some medical profession and says $100 000 a year will be half a million dollars in the hole before I get out which is kind of shocking just to hear that then Rubio part of his plan make university and higher education more affordable, part of his plan is this. So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits... Oh yeah he started off by saying there should be more schools that are accredited remember when we were looking into getting accreditation for the no agenda University? Another great plan

1:52:18 Another one of our schemes was a great scheme, and then it turns out he schemes to get out You can't get kids because the whole exit strategies We need to get out of podcasting. Let's start a school." No accreditation for you people, but anyway he has the whole scam. He's got it right. He's on our tip here by saying let more organizations give kids an education and I think podcasting is a vocation so we could give them an education for the vocation of the podcasting But this is how he wants to finance it. So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits without having to pay for in a traditional institution The second, Is an alternative student loans called the Student Investment Plan And this will allow you go to private investment group who would invest in you The way an investment group invest on startup business In essence they believe so much and your success That they would pay for your college

1:53:13 If you become financially successful, they're going to make their investment back with a profit. If you do not, they're gonna lose their money and be in a bad investment but all the risk is on them." This does not sound like a good idea. Bowie was very different. He wasn't that different, he sold the futures to his record for profits... But he already had hits John! He had hits. Well... He sold hits? I know exactly how this works. He could have done it with no hits and you could present him... Yeah but he wouldn't have gotten 50 million dollars for no hits it was his back catalog that he licensed. Back catalog. It wasn't licensed, it was profits

1:53:57 So in other words, if he sold us on they would go into the corporation that would get distributed his profits. Right and was a $50 million bond and it was groundbreaking at the time this is different this is like you're a startup let me tell you something I've been through the venture capital startup route You don't want to be on the end of oh I was successful then Oh well that's great Well you now have 1% of your company which would be you In this case And the VC take the rest and then what does It mean how do They exit? Do you Go public? Oh Adam Curry Is going public today This is dumb. This is a bad idea, Rubio! Well it's just crazy I don't know how bad this is no one's gonna do it but its indentured servitude and it's purely illegal That's his plan Some plan Sanders has got a better plan than that

1:54:48 My vanity call. Here's something interesting for you. Oh, that just brings up a topic! What is your vanity call again? Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie Couldn't you just have made it C-U-R-R-Y? That wouldn't... You still have to have 1x3 or 2x4 So no That wouldn't work And why would I? Do you want as few letters and more characters as possible So an A is dot dash, you know? And this is a great call sign. But here's... What is it again? Kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie and it rolls nice but its easy to say people can hear on the side band so anyway

1:55:38 Because I changed my call, but had to change all my D star stuff and everything You remember what it was just for the get you registered on d-star imagine having to re register a new call sign so Papa echo one papa Lima Mike in Holland who's involved with all this stuff He helped me get the reregistration and then they were telling me about this big new Repeater network in The Netherlands. You can hook into it via echolinks. Oh my god both check that out It's kind of like the Texas saltgrass network where you have one frequency and no matter where you are, You key into that. Technically it is very interesting the way they have multiple transmitters that are according time-based corrections. It is interesting. Hobbiescope.nl if you want to learn more about it But anyway I listened in on this reflector And then its like 1 or 2 in the afternoon all of a sudden beep beep beep in Dutch Here is the Dutch amateur radio news

1:56:32 Adam Curry has a new call sign. He has a vanity call and then they play like the whole bit from the show We're talking about my vanity call sign They played the bit from the show Yeah, yeah over them over the ham band Is that illegal? No no it's not illegal. No can't play this show on the know just a clip just a clip I Question that question to legality you can do ham radio news Because, you know it's going to save everyone from the apocalypse. Anyway I just... So this guy in that voice of yours? Yes yes very cool that he has a new fanatic call sign. Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie 7 trees at him! Five. So now of course and then i caused the pileup because i jumped in and said hey if i was in your news all pile up everybody was trying to talk to me

1:57:31 Pile of pile up. I know we're gonna tell you it's a beautiful thing anyway onward downward thank you all that we appreciate all of our hams then yeah everyone should get a ham radio license there's no better time than now to get one if you want those cheap Chinese handhelds for 25 bucks off and yeah you're in business nothing your own business put in the glove box your car you're in business You know, talking about student loans here's a student loan story that has been going around. About the poor guy that is busted you know the marshals grabbed him but it seems as though they had a reason. If you're one of the estimated 40 million Americans with student loan debt listen up! A Houston man says he was arrested by team US Marshalls without notice for nearly 30 year old student loan NBC's Janet Chamley looks into this story.

1:58:28 Like millions of Americans, Paul Aker has debt from college loans. Last week U.S. Marshals showed up at his Houston area home to help collect it I went to my garage opened the garage door and walked out with my hands up Aker claims he was handcuffed and shackled for non-payment of a $1500 loan from 1987 29 years ago Surreal! I think it's so unrealistic that you can treat a citizen as if he's a drug dealer. Court documents show notices were sent to Aker starting 10 years ago and he acknowledges, he does owe the money and he is not alone Student debt is skyrocketing there are more than 1.2 trillion of it out there And more than 70% of bachelor degree grads will leave school with student loan Aker says he was briefly put in cell before being brought before judge or collection lawyer ordered to pay over time

1:59:24 $2,700 for the loan which includes interest and another $1,300 for the US Marshals Service. Tonight the U.S. Marshals Service says Aker refused multiple requests to appear in court dating back to 2012 The people in debt out there shouldn't be afraid. U.S. Marshals are going to come and kick their door down This was an extreme case, it was escalated by Mr. Akers himself While not offering a specific number US Marshal's confirmed their services are used for others who've defaulted on very old student loans Oh yeah That's some future for our kids Oh this is a twizzle! The marshals are going after the kids

2:00:02 It's a bullshit story. Because? Because the guy was sent... The courts kept sending him notices and we just told them to pound salt, so that marshals had to go do something and then they end up charging the guy for the marshal service which I by the way think is a good idea Yeah well They should do that for lots of especially EMT in ambulances You know but- Well they do In Albany they do Not in uh well You call an ambulance, you're paying for it. In Boulder where our producer Chad, Bad Chad has a... He works there as a fireman EMT and he says I think I'm just going to paraphrase. I think was 75% of all of the ambulance calls that they have to attend to is usually someone who says this 350 pounds. Can't get up. Could you get my cigarettes from the other side of the room? Thank you so much for coming

2:01:00 That's what that's what and they can't charge those people. They should be able to yeah, there's people have no money You're not you know the servants now, but that's how it works Well, they should change a little local laws might get elected to your city council people they might set of complaining to us They might okay There's a number of things And we should be talking about today. Oh, with the Constitution? Oh no. The whole thing they're trying to oust these guys it's a complete cluster you know what... Well hold on is this 3x3 or is this not a three by three? No! This is from Dorian...no! Three-by-three has got nothing on this oh so zero three by three okay yeah all right here we go Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk has survived a vote of no confidence in his government

2:02:04 The parliamentary vote came after his cabinet lost the support of the ruling coalition. President Petro Poroshenko called on him to resign, but the president ruled out a snap election in response to the politically unstable situation in the country. Crowds gathered outside the parliament building in Kiev in protest of the weak economy and high taxes. All right let's go to our correspondent now Jan Polakat he is standing by in Kiev Good evening to you, Jan. So what exactly is happening in Kiev right now? The president wants the prime minister to resign but he doesn't want to call a snap vote What is going on?

2:02:43 Well, this is a question many Ukrainians ask themselves at the moment. And we heard clear sounds here in the parliament, clear sounds of amazement just when it became clear that the vote of no confidence had failed and this was much more surprised because Petro Poroshenko as he mentioned himself lately placed himself on top of the anti-government movement calling for a new technocratic government earlier today one that could push through reforms and fight corruption without being linked with political groups and lobbyists So the parliament expressed its dislike in a majority to the government policy, but minutes later in another poll it didn't express

2:03:19 mistrust in the government in general. Deputies from Poroshenko's party did, as they were told but too few from other groups from other parties also from the oppositionist bloc which is linked to Russia in many minds so many commentators say look it's the only guy that told their puppets in Parliament criticize the government and but don't let the government fall in general we do not want those technocratic governments Poroshenko had in mind to disrupt our business. That's one interpretation. Help us and the world understand a little bit better. We understand that the parliament says the government's performance is unsatisfactory, what has the government done that is so bad or so wrong?

2:04:02 Well, the Yeltsin-Yuk government is widely actually criticized for failing in fighting corruption and to really reform the country. Ministers known as being reform orientated have left government recently and criticize it sharply for doing nothing against corruption, for being indeed corrupt itself of the Western partners of Ukraine and donors distance themselves quite... I kind of lost it now at this point what is he now saying? Everybody okay that was just summarized The government is falling apart because of the corruption problem that has never gone away, even though they kicked out the last guy and then there was that woman who's the Latvian woman who ran the country for a while. And she's also still back in politics and she's quitting the government or at least she's quitting the... Tumaschenko.

2:04:53 and it's just a complete mess in news not be reported on the scene to go right back into another revolution the new constitution is a new social contract between citizens and the authorities which have that which they have elected The contract on the distribution of rights and responsibilities within the governing bodies between the president, government and parliament. The contract on relations between center and regions. The contract on establishment a new fair and honest trial. The contract on clear geopolitical goal of Ukraine which consists in becoming member of European Union and NATO That's what this is about! That's what it is about... clearly. Somebody on Twitter

2:05:37 Wanted us to at least do this you should check this out. There's a bunch of posters crop cropping Oh, this is the smoking kills more people than Obama in Russia I know with the picture of Obama smoking yeah isn't that great? Yeah there on board the reason I wanted to bring this up okay We have people in Russia. I want one of these poster ah there You go now want one of these posters right on right on oh Right on, right on. You know there's something else that is not being covered and this came up because one of the Millennials has a report due The report was about the referendum in Bolivia Did you know about the referendum in Bolivia? No, not to... Social media where the campaign for the hearts and minds of Bolivian voters have been fought

2:06:24 President Evo Morales' private life is the main target. Every detail of his past relationship with a young businesswoman is being dissected. Morales admitted fathering a son with the woman in 2007, their baby later died but even that's been disputed on social media The government says this dirty war has to stop For me this is unspeakable. To use a dead baby and destroy a woman's life? That is what the opposition is doing! This is way beyond the limits of any sort of political campaign." But analysts say this type of campaigning is unusual in Bolivia. It is really nasty because this the first time we are watching very clearly the impact of Twitter, Facebook and other social networks trying to distort information. Voters will decide on February 21st whether to change the constitution and abolish two-term presidential limits

2:07:20 The no side say they're fighting a fair campaign. Of the latest opinion polls, plus the yes side on course for victory by 44.4% as opposed to 41.1% for the No. Okay so I looked into this This is a very interesting occurrence This is a referendum to be held on 21st of February and Viva Morales will be president until 2020 And he's had, this is just starting his second term and then he wants to be eligible for a third term. And he is from the people if you see where he comes from, he is from the people and what he seeing now is that in this with this referendum, the techno experts are out in droves and he is on record everywhere accusing

2:08:08 the United States, specifically the National Endowment for Democracy who gave the Bolivian news agency $500,000. If you look at the list of NGOs that the National Endowment for Democracy has handed out... it's 50,000 here 75,000 to bloggers John just all kinds there must be a hundred different little groups who are now given money by us to support the no campaign And what is this really about goes back to the original Bolivia gas war.

2:08:44 And if you look at Bolivia, it's not a small country and they're kind of right in the middle of all the action there in South America. They were very smart... Ed Milewski Yeah but this is just a straight up economic hit man play. Joe Mancini Exactly! But and the main reason is that Bolivia put together long-term gas...they have lot of gas...long term gas contracts so they're not hit as hard as other countries in South America or other countries in general And it looks like someone wants to end these contracts by ending his reign. And of course, they have now four years left to do it and get their new puppet in or kill the guy or whatever needs to be done. We're not above that. So this is the chance to stop at least the next term, the change of the Constitution but its really dirty business. The problem

2:09:33 is I can't find who's techno experts they are. If you go to the State Department, they have no... You search nothing on Bolivia! You go to even the National Endowment for Democracy, besides their list of money they have no policy statements. I looked at the Kagan's Noodleman hasn't been there since 2010 so i don't know who is doing it Oh! I might point out There are a lot of Chinese companies They're building all the infrastructure Part of the techno expert campaign Is to make Morales look like he's in bed with the Chinese, which of course he is. There's all kinds of Chinese infrastructure projects so... In general I know we hate that and were clearly behind it but i'm not quite sure which group is pushing it So haven't found that yet And no its not USAID USAID has very little to do with this This is all NED Huh! And it's about gas obviously Chinese Gas

2:10:37 And you know what they're gonna get? They're gonna get Zika. That's what's going to happen, I can put that in the Red Book. Zika is next for Bolivia so we have 1.8 billion dollars that we've now asked to make available to save the world of the horrible zika virus which apparently is not actually shrinking babies heads as we predicted accurately So what do you need that money for? I don't know, maybe Bolivia needs a little detachment of boots on the ground to help them with the Zika virus and straighten out what they're doing wrong with the gas. Well there's sure been a lot of pushback on the obvious cause of the shrunken heads which is this larvicide that we discussed before and named almost immediately

2:11:20 But now we're getting like I said, so American and US and Brazilian officials say no scientific basis for theory that chemicals rather than the Zika virus is to blame for birth defects. So here's the logic There's no scientific evidence that chemicals, and chemicals by the way are what do most damage in terms of the human genome and all sorts of genetic defects and poisonings. And people born with no arms... always chemicals! But instead it is a a virus that has been around and discovered first in 1949, which never had this effect before. And now suddenly does out of the blue and we know of no other viruses that have these sort of very negative effects unless it makes the person themselves quite ill right? This doesn't do that it doesn't make anyone feel like they're flu. So something's up with this Zika thing is annoying

2:12:20 And but people do like to hate on the Bonsanto, which is yeah. That's a that's a popular one But that just you know yeah, but I'm saying look out Bolivia is getting Zika next well I did I think they already have it Most of South America if you look on those maps that have the colored countries has already got Zika Yeah, but it'll be ratcheted up You know it's a little more fun that way and I think it's gonna be sick. It's gonna be something else We'll have to let this shake out and figure out what's going on because it doesn't sound like we... Which is typical. There's no reason you should have a grip on everything. No! Okay, what do we got? I have a uh... What is this? A Jews in Copenhagen report that's kind of interesting

2:13:06 Oh, how about the oil prices thing? Because we could talk about this because people need to know this. They don't listen to DH unplug necessarily so they can get little thinking about these oil prices I'm thinking where might be getting toward $1 gas because Mimi just filled her tank up at $1.69 What's your price We have 149. Holy crap! That is outrageous and I think we saw a 146 9 10th the other day Well here, let's play the oil prices explained on Deutsche Welle. Oil price for you today Brent The price of crude hit a 12 day high today but it wasn't all good news for oil companies It is no secret that there is a glut of the black stuff In fact, the oversupply is as high as 1.5 million barrels per day

2:13:59 Two of the biggest oil producing nations want to put a stop to that. Russia and Saudi Arabia have come up with a pact to freeze output, but not everyone is on board. A smile for cameras but pressure is mounting. Competition between oil producers is wreaking havoc on the energy market None of the countries was willing to back down and cap production But now at least four oil rich nations have announced they'll freeze output at current levels We don't want significant gyrations in prices. We don't want reduction in supply, we want to meet demand and we want a stable oil price The budgets of OPEC members are suffering under the oil glut including Saudi Arabia Russia and Venezuela are also feeling the pressure

2:14:56 As Venezuela, to stabilize the market is very important to get a fair price. To sustain the level of investment that is required to sustain production So far Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Venezuela and Russia are the only countries backing the plan If others refuse to follow suit this scheme will likely have little effect on oil prices But Azerbaijan and Iran have already rejected the deal And that sent oil prices lower on Tuesday All right, let's get more on today's oil price fluctuations. Our Markets Man Javier Aguidez has the view from Frankfurt

2:15:34 The European stock markets kick-started the trading session with solid gains, anticipating what should have been an agreement between the oil exporting countries to finally make the oil price rise again. However that did not come as expected it was a very disappointing proposal on one hand it would imply that every exporting nation will limit its production to levels we saw in January which is highly unrealistic hand it just simply does not solve the problem because there is overproduction as there was in January as well. So the only true possibility to finally make the oil price rise again would have been to cut production." Yeah, duh! Now of course Iran says they're gonna have nothing to do with any of this. It's now that those sanctions are going to crank up production so they're gonna crank it up now and a guy who was right is 1.5 million barrels a day

2:16:25 overproduced in January. And those are the words, let's stop there so they can...this is outrageous! There is so much oil out there and it's being poured into every storage facility there is that this is going to I'm telling you we have a good shot at getting down to sub $1 gallon gasoline price. I think you're right but There's no reason why it wouldn't happen. When was the last time it was below a buck? I don't know, it was way...I think in the 70s or pre-Senate in the 60s. Because when the 70s happened that's when people...I remember the 70s where there were gasoline lines. Stop right there! If you remember the 70s then you didn't do them right Well I remember this much of the 70s

2:17:13 There was gasoline lines, there was the day you could get gas. You had odd and even days for all kinds of... It was just crazy! And this is because OPEC decided to fix the price high. Now I remember this for sure. I remember when they first started talking about it. Oh! Because when I was a kid, you could get gas at 25 cents per gallon It was like, oh $2.00! It's gonna be two dollar gasoline and we're going to go into a deep depression. Now when you were kid getting gas did you have to pump the gas into that little bubble on top of the pump? Is that how it worked? No. Oh okay... But I do have to say this-I did have a family, we had this friend who had a small farm and they had one of those old pumps

2:18:01 And and you did he pumped it by hand fun to play with she pumped it by hand And the top thing was all glass. You could see through it and had the markings on how many gallons there were. Right, yeah so you knew exactly what you had Yeah, and you pump it up there pump pump because now you don't know It could be lying to you When I was a kid we had the mopeds in Holland So when I was actually driving one of those 15 but 16 The Solexes? Solex is one of them yes and the Puch P-U-C-H and the Kreidlers and all the Tomas all these little 49.9 CC cylinder content and these were all two-stroke

2:18:42 The gas stations had a pump where you would manually, in the machine and the pump, you'd pump in how much gas you wanted. Then you'd pump in the equivalent amount of oil needed for the right mixture. You're actually mixing and you could mess with it. It could be a little less oil or more oil same thing they had to mix your own... Right out of the pump? Yeah! You have to mix it with the oil but in The pump had the mix. So you had the two things in the pump and you would combine them before it went into your tank? Wow, it was cool shit. We never had anything like that here because we weren't very well on two-stroke engines Motorcycle they're not a great idea really I think my fate. I still would like to get inside that night. I was looking at these It's like a 53 second model 92 or a model 93 sob They used to have and you see used to still seem I haven't seen one on the road You know I had this ob in LA the 90 the 92 and I threw is it a 2?

2:19:39 Two-stroke three cylinder? Oh no, no. No you had the little V4 four cylinder. The original ones were a three cylinder two stroke I think it's a 750cc engine two strokes and they used to be all over the place and then They made the weirdest sound and they stunk and they smoked. Oh yeah if you have the mixture off this yeah Then you have to go in clean the contact points in the ignition, clean your electrode and your spark plug. I just think it'd be cool to own one and drive around all right well like and here he is hey girls John C Dvorak with his... Hey Girls!

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2:34:12 John mentioned a couple times he thought I'd reach knighthood while reading donations, but I couldn't quite believe that I had hit that mark yet. So I finally started doing some digging into and it turns out... ...I have indeed crossed the Knight threshold! In fact almost at baronet level! So he wants to be known as Sir Ben of Oakland Order of the Economic Roundtable so if this came in today I'm trusting him He did send his accounting on so yeah, that's been sent That's not really a dude named Ben A dude named Ben in Benville Does get any better than that? Not really Thank you all so much. It is touching, my heart is full with love that you have once again supported the program of work and we will keep going until we literally have no more left to give or until we found a real job

2:35:00 Well, that's not going to happen. Probably not! But we can also give up when people stop supporting the show and they say you guys stink, you suck what happened? Why are you guys not as good as used to be? And the way we see it that would be a really bad time because this stuff that were doing rights itself It's all out there. It does, it really does and I'm the more ideal with the mainstream you know corporates corporations etc like i had this past week the more I'm convinced that it's really the model that makes the work possible. It truly is! It's the model

2:35:38 Yeah, the model works. You know like you can't get fired immediately for saying something and then you can take a look at these other guys and I think our best one of some of our best materials today is looking at the actual writ that Adam did it also this the nonsense that CNN says oh Hillary was in tears she couldn't say you know when she was just coughing had a coughing fit which no one helped her out Even worse. And nobody did anything, no they let her swing in the wind! Oh we also had a... was it something else you sent me? Yes we had an F cancer I want to make sure i do that yeah we have yeah hold on We got an f cancer from one of our producers Yeah here we go

2:36:24 This is from Sean. Cheers to 800 more boom shakalaka I know i'm below the executive slash associate executive producer level for show 800 but may I humbly request an F cancer Karma, we lost our family golden retriever last week and a good family friend was recently diagnosed with stage 3 colorectal cancer. All the kids are getting it these days It might be much appreciated love you guys keep up the outstanding work Sean of course We'll do that and thank you everybody remember. We will continue got another show coming up on Sunday episode number 801 Devorak dot org slash N A You've got karma here we go

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2:38:31 I was looking at the tweets because there's something i was looking for and Dame Jennifer Buchanan in real time says she's a South Carolina, and She said think half Jewish or something. She says I'm wrong I don't think so you're going out on a limb, but well You know and I forgot that we did she was in South Carolina. I thought we had very few donors for the race We have a few yeah hey, I watched the Grammy Awards oh Yeah, did you hear what's-her-name go off key Adele or then blame it on the piano mics? Well you know yes if that's what happened. I saw it happen and

2:39:11 And the piano was thus somewhat out of tune. But she has stage fright, and her eyes like as if she'd seen you know the most frightening thing in the world and then she was just pushing and shouting it happens She can I have to say this was this is once again was directed by Ken Ehrlich who? I think is a shitty director He's been doing the Grammys for many many years. Oh you hold on a second that way before you go on with your thing I just want us make my one complaint, and if you say it's a shitty director that explains with this one thing there's one band came out That's the group, some of the whole group is in a dark setting and they're singing Girl Crush. Yes that is big Big Little River band thing. So this woman who was the lead singer, the brunette, they got her lit! They got all them lit from underneath so they all look like ghouls

2:40:04 But with this one woman in particular, it lit the bottom of her nose. Just the nose part so that... So she looked like a two-car garage and because only that part of it just the bottom part of the nose was... She also has a rather odd looking nose from that angle. Well from that angle in particular especially the way she looked like a pig It was not I actually in general was pretty pleased with a lot of the production, but i did not like most of the sets. Um...I thought that the idea of Girl Crush had the right idea You know, the big Kendrick Lamar Black Lives Matter performance. It really I mean they lost me after they really got going like wow! I know it's a statement i know it's big but I think kind of got lost on most people

2:40:59 Let me see, was there anything of... Well the only thing that I really picked up is just the clip. It was as if the universe was out there talking to me was Stevie Wonder! Now first we know that they were no planned performances for Maurice White and for Natalie Cole. Natalie Cole really she got the end in The Dead segment which is nice with her dad you know from a previous Grammys performance made it look like they were in heaven together so beautiful But Stevie Wonder came out with Panatonix. I love Panatonix and they did an Earth, Wind & Fire song all a cappella. And then Stevie...

2:41:37 Uh, goes to announce the next winner and here he is. You can't read it! You can't read braille! So his envelope had braille apparently uh... And you know what? It was pretty funny He's ripping it apart. Before saying the winner that we need to make every single thing accessible To every single person with a disability Now this of course comes on the heels of my section 508 research about the American Disabilities Act, which has regulations coming for federal departments and agencies that which has what one of our low vision or blind producers slash listeners calls the ADA 508 trolls. So I have hit upon something here that is happening and in the... What do you call that? You don't call it the blind community. That doesn't sound right

2:42:35 You say the vision impaired community? What is the politically correct term? I don't know, no idea. I like gooky eyed motherfuckers is what I like but...I digress here it is Adam while I believe this is from James well I believe accessibility is a human right I do not support the degradation of existing content to achieve that goal when other solutions exist. Which has been my point, fortunately many other disabled people think as i do on the flip side we have ADA that's Americans with Disabilities Act trolls they believe litigation against corporations is a profit generator these trolls make it harder for everyone in legitimate accessibility issues to get them fixed in constructive ways

2:43:14 At times, legal action may be required though it should be an if all else fails response. While ADA trolls are a real threat as linked below some blind people are stepping up to the plate to fight this abuse of section 508 These trolls are causing the public to conflate real accessibility issues like touchscreen displays and inaccessible ATMs with frivolous crap Disabled people already have enough problems in their lives without people like this And then you see this one guy who's in Beaverton Oregon has sued every single bank for their website. Every single bank has been sued and they settle out of court it's fantastic, it's a great money maker and people are going after as many corporations as they can even though it's not law you can just go and sue people whatever you want apparently so I have uh a lot of those lawsuits and then what was the

2:44:13 There was another producer who really vehemently disagrees with me and says, well let's see if I could find his email that would be kind of funnier. If i could actually read it... He was not happy with my stance on degrading the experience for sight-abled people Would that be the word? Sight abled maybe This hasn't really gotten into the mainstream to have a special word. It's coming, it's coming... Well of course there is a word for it! But anyway, there's some politically correct words And he's like, you know that it's petty. You need to shut up about that I'm like no but i am all for doing anything then i have throughout my career i've always made my the products i was responsible for accessible as much as possible in fact i got a very good suggestion to change our player in page player from flash which has been for god i don't know since we started uh to html5 so i'll change that that's a great idea

2:45:15 But I really have to push back and say no, no. You can have your own site that has everything you need that can take you through it but why would i have to give up my experience for someone else? And this will come to a head. I don't like it! I really want to help everybody, but i dont like where you tell me that I can't use a font or I can't use a certain color because low vision people might not...I mean Where does this end? Where do I get to be disabled for being 6'5 and sitting in coach Can I get that change? You could go on forever So I agree with Stevie But be careful these lawsuits are pushing shit in the wrong direction It's not the way to go

2:46:00 And the ADA trolling has to stop and it's a big theft. It's theft! Anyway... Okay, and we're now being shamed by Google. They are like hey this email came from curry.com but it was not secure anyone could have stolen this information while I was in transit thanks google you're shaming me now Now we haven't seen that oh yeah people are tweeting it The..I don't know if you have a certificate on your email server on Dvorak.org Do you have a cert? I don't know. Well, I don't do it. I just give it off to Mark Perkel let him deal with it right and the no agenda player comm is getting the big oh you Don't want to continue so all of our sites are now going to be looking scary So but I will get a certificate that I disagree with I'll get a certificate for my from an email server I don't know about I don't like the shaming But I don't like it especially if it's not important to you

2:47:05 What that's why I said in this you know the this error 53 mm-hmm? But if you've got a knife, you know if you take the iPhone They are 53 stories people should go read it. I want to explain It's in PC magazine If you do some if you take your iPhone 6 to a third party and they do something And then they upgrade you you break the phone And because it's for security reasons. They don't want people futzing around with the phones and trying to steal the data, but I... The question that I still haven't heard the answer to is what if you have like I do? You have the phone, you don't use the fingerprint scanner because you don't want to like you and you don't have the password because you don't care! You want your phone to be not secure because that's just a way you feel more comfortable. Just have a phone like I have

2:47:52 So, if that happens and somebody fucks with the phone does it brick it? Why is it bricking to protect me. It's obvious I don't need protection or don't want protection." Well the Apple error 53 is understandable because you're cracking the case and then the sensor becomes disassociated that is a security risk what they should have done as A had a warning that says are you doing this could happen but I don't end you know and they should have a way for it to be fixed easily But that's a little different issue, I think. It feels not to me okay but what all of this PC politically correct and cultural Marxism stuff is bringing us though is exactly what the Unabomber discussed in his manifesto because if you read the technological...you know the industrial...I forget the name of the full title of it..The Unabomber Manifesto go ahead and read it oh don't worry you'll be on a list

2:48:48 He says that all of these problems that we're having with technology now come from the basic premise of political correctness. When we stop calling everything, right down to the pronouns it's in his brain. manifesto. It is a historical document worth reading and now we're seeing this bull crap coming to ahead with the whole legal system, with trolling and quite frankly we deserve it." It was a busy time at Evans Pool open for lap swim according to Seattle Parks & Recreation A man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room and took off his shirt Women alerted staff who told the man to leave but he said The law has changed And I have a right to be here

2:49:31 I can't imagine why they want to do that. Anyway, Marion Sato uses the locker room a few times a week and says this is a first it also was for Seattle Parks and Rec. They say the man made no verbal or physical attempt to identify as a woman but he still cited a new rule that allows bathroom choice based on gender identification either identify yourself you're not and you're just taking advantage of a loophole. Good morning and thank you all for coming out the issue of toilet wars drew protesters from both sides to Olympia on Monday. Toilet Wars! Opponents claim the rule opens up bathrooms to voyeurs This code was so poorly written that it contains so many loopholes that predators will abuse we know because we have lived it but supporters say

2:50:28 a voyeuristic or is going to hurt somebody, that's still illegal and they will still be arrested. No one was arrested in this case. Police weren't called even though the man returned a second time while young girls were changing for swim practice. Yeah there you go it's all part of the same thing. Hey I identify as woman I'm changing here And they get away with it. And they should, because it's ridiculous! It is ridiculous You can't say oh well you know everyone's preference and then say but you don't count because your not wearing female clothing or whatever The guys a protester clearly and he's right. While we're at it... I think one of our producers that we should find out who it is again maybe its Ramsey or somebody I'm not sure Prince printed out a copy of that

2:51:17 of the manifesto and I think you probably could buy it from them or get it for free and not be on a list. Well, if you...it's in the show notes we have a offline copy that does not say unibomber dot TXT. Okay yeah you can get it from the show notes search dot N A shownotes dot com but while we're at it there was little fracas over in Gitmo Nation East where Stephen Fry was handing out an award to costume designer Jenny Beeve. I don't have a clip, I should've gotten a clip Then he said oh you're dressed like a bag lady This brings up a whole other conversation I'm speaking to my LGBTQQIAAP brothers and sisters right now Particularly the G's You need to be careful that you are making fun of women Okay? Okay?! Right??

2:52:05 I know more gay guys who go, oh honey she whatever girlfriend you're making fun of women at this point it's misogynistic and they are. Gay men are often very misogynistic towards women even...I want to go just because we're doing this is not that i care But because we're looking at these ridiculous politically correct rules and regulations, and in some cases law. How about transgender? How about drag shows? Are you not making fun of women? Are you not making fun of Barbra Streisand? Of Liza Minnelli? You know, when is it okay? If you dress up then if you say oh I'm transgendered. I'm gay. I'm a drag queen then i can make fun of women Women you need to stop this Men you need to stop this Because now taking your political correctness To the degree that everyone's gonna get pissed off about something And just needs to stop But they won't It's going to keep on going Let's make sure we call the right people out for being misogynists It's not funny Republicans Of course Republicans We know their misogyny Only republicans They hate women

2:53:10 The war on women. We have such a double standard, it's annoying me! Yeah. And it really started with this oh you can't have a good website... Why don't we just make everything grey? All websites from now on let's make them grey. Yeah 16 shades that's all we need. Greyscale, we're done. We're back to 1972. The early days of websites. If it was up to me yeah we'd still be using the blink tag. Still be using the redball dot jif but no It's just it's ridiculous blink tag remember the blink tag blink tag rocked man

2:53:50 Yeah, blink-blink. I should have asked this question earlier since it's actual news and you did a little finance segment. Larry Summers says it's time to go after big money in his latest column for the Washington Post the former US Treasury Secretary called for taking higher denomination bills out of circulation that could deter tax evasion financial crime and terrorism financing. I said it, and I tweeted it already. You should bring back the American $500 bill!

2:54:36 Why not? Yeah, why not. I think it's great! But why is this? Does this have to do with the negative interest rates? Oh yeah, they took the $500 bill out of circulation that way the drug business would come to a standstill you see how well that worked That worked, perfect now it has to be the hundred dollar bill Yeah, they want that out of circulation. And we knew they were working on it. It's unbelievable! The way prices are you have to bring hunters around because some of this stuff is expensive because 45 bucks for a cappuccino? Well that's Starbucks only. That's where they're really expensive So I got my clip Alright This is the bill Clinton comes out with cause he figures he's doomed

2:55:18 So he's coming out with all kinds of... He's read the, he seen the tea leaves. He heard The No Agenda Show. He knows his days are numbered! So now he is coming off the wall with a crazy talk And so now he's going to lecture the public on this, Bill Clinton on mixed race. Former President Bill Clinton drew attention for his comments on race while campaigning for his wife Hillary in Tennessee on Friday after was introduced by Democratic Tennessee Congress member Steve Cohen as a quote heck of a stand-in for the first black president. Clinton told the crowd in Memphis quote we are all mixed race We learned that unless your ancestors every one

2:55:58 Are a hundred percent A hundred percent from South Saharan Africa. We are all mixed race people Okay, alright. Do you know what that point is? That coffin is over here mr.. Clinton Just fall backwards you'll be fine close your eyes poor bill I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him, I feel bad for him. Ooh! Of course we need to just finalize- Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh yes Mark the time on that. Okay, I've marked. R54 where are you? We have two clips about the Supreme Court

2:56:48 of course, it's very interesting as to what's going to happen. Everyone is coming out with historical this and historical that. CBS did Did highlight the Obama hypocrisy on the Supreme Court nomination, which is interesting for CBS to do. President Obama started a campaign of sorts calling for his eventual Supreme Court nominee to be given a hearing The Constitution is pretty clear about what's supposed to happen now But the Constitution only says that for a nominee to be confirmed, the president must get advice and consent from the Senate Republicans with the Supreme Court in the balance say they can't imagine a nominee and they had consent to during the press conference. The president took aim at what he called an obstructionist Senate, but a reporter pointed out that then Senator Obama voted for a filibuster of President Bush's 2006 nomination of Justice Samuel Alito when I examined the philosophy ideology and record of Samuel Alito

2:57:46 I am deeply troubled. You make sure that a well-qualified candidate is able to join the bench, even if you don't particularly agree with them. Alright so... That will remain in the news for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks to come. That will just not end But of course if you really want to... A few times he actually spoke up when he was a senator. If you want to know what the pulse of the nation, and when I'm saying nation, I mean Gitmo Nation proper! If you wanna know is really going on with people think about this, YOU HAVE TO GO TOO! Rachel Maddow? Nooo. My beat man, whats my beat?!

2:58:29 Oh, the view. It's like they're not being patriotic it seems to me. It's like this man has had so much service from this Congress it's outrageous! I love... is she Jewish or Italian? He's Jewish. I thought she was Italian? Oh, maybe she is! Yeah... Maybe she's an Italian Jew She has Soros- he said so much Soros Shes a big mouth So much Soros And she's talking about Obama of course Uh.. Of course, yeah She loves Obama Well it gets better Its like they're not being patriotic it seems to me its like this man has had so much soros from this congress that its outrageous and I have to say it I know it uh its not popular to say it What you gonna say?! Remember this is about the

2:59:09 Supreme Court, this is about Obama. This is about the Republicans... She's happy that uh... It's about the Republicans hating- Justice Scorsese is dead! It's about the Republicans hating Obama and she- Oh it's racist! The Republicans are a bunch of racist pigs! But his color has something to do with it? I don't care! Nooo! People don't like the Senate! Now at this point Whoopi is walking off the set she's so happy What's interesting is Joy really felt that she went out on a huge limb here. She's trying to get Whoopi to say, hey that was really good of you and how strong of you as a white person to say that you're really great but Whoopi is just so all embroiled in herself

3:00:12 I'm not saying that. My God! I'm saying that they're racists and it takes a white person to say it as everybody knows black people believe that. You know what? They are racist, but there always been the story I just told you about Thurgood Marshall you know or about President- Whoa did you hear that no listen very carefully listen very carefully Did you hear it? No. Listen again. I think she let a poopie. Oh, listen, listen, listen! Yeah, I'm telling ya. Zoom in and enhance hold on zoom in enhance yeah I'm telling ya directional mics is not possible that's she poopied whoopee man sure she crapped her pants

3:01:04 The show is just deteriorating. This is Show 800, my friend! Bring up the level of standards! Up, up, UP! This IS our standard what are you talking about? We're exceeding it at this point Oh man There are people that craft in chairs I think she let one rip Alright Maybe that's why she got up so she could use it out There's nothing like walking and pooping at the same time It's one of those great things Well, John I think we're pretty much near the end of episode 100 and unless you have one more clip You'd like to play us out with well. Let's see I got Andrea Mitchell and Hillary I think that's an old classic from the past if the FIFA here Oh yeah, I do have one little thing when I bring up This is a Tavis smiley introducing some guy just wrote a book

3:01:58 And just before he starts to talk to the guy, he throws his personal anecdote in. I just wanted to make a comment on the personal anecdote And what is the clip? It's got to have a smiley. I see, I got it. Ben Ratliff is an author and jazz and pop critic for The New York Times, and a good one at that. His latest book is a series of essays about different things to listen for in music. The book is called Every Song Ever 20 Ways To Listen In An Age Of Musical Plenty. Ben Ratliff, good to have you back on this program. Thank you so much! Actually the timing of this is propitious. I literally just got a new phone the other day

3:02:35 I should have had one months ago. Had a cracked face and phone was acting crazy, so i hadn't had a new phone in awhile. I get the phone and turn it on and get invited to join this music club And I was stunned! I had to look twice at the number By joining this music club for $9 a month, 999 a month, I get access to over 30 million songs I had to look at that number twice. 30 million songs, I got access to on my phone and of course at the same time i'm going through your book about this age of musical plenty so it makes perfect sense to have you on tonight 30 million songs on whatever you subscribe to, whatever. But I remember back in 98-99 when Napster was around and the commentary then even though the CD business went up in numbers they were making more money during Napster than after they closed it which is always a coincidence like to point out

3:03:31 I remember then the talk was well because of piracy and all this stuff going on The music business will be dead There will be no more music. We will be a new no more music Because the piracy would not allow people to make it living And they went on and on about this, and now you just watch the Grammys Which is a music industry at least that level seems to be pretty good doing okay and now we have the age of plenty with 30 million songs available. I suppose there's a few Mozarts in there to add to the number, but what happened to this death of music? It's coming. Oh okay. It's coming John don't worry. There is plenty of music it just people aren't really getting compensated so...it'll be awhile but then they will figure it out Did you see that guy who just left NPR because y'know the only people listening are

3:04:24 Master death file? Well, that's NPR. GO PODCASTING! And thank you all so much for supporting 800 episodes of our little show here It's your show you produce it we execute in more ways than one Thank you for your courage and passion love and light Thank You John And thank you, Adam Curry. Thank you John C. Dvorak for the inspiration. Exactly. Inspiration indeed! We'll be back on Sunday with episode 801 Remember Us at dvorak.org slash NA Coming to you from downtown Austin in the skyscraper We're FEMA Region 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley which is big

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