Climate Disobedience

00:00 Jeehaw! Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday, January 14th, 26, Titanium Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 7, 9 or 0. This is no agenda. Celebrating the rise of the Black Star and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Tejas, Femin region, 6 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where there's no silliness whatsoever, I'm John C. DeVorah. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Yo, yo. Well, it was an interesting week. Yeah, certainly. Did something happen? Did I miss something? There was this president gave this huge speech. Oh God. And on Twitter, Donald Trump heckled him. Yeah. I thought that was funny. There's a lot to talk about when it comes to

00:59 the propaganda arm of the United States government and the first thing... I have a key clip, I have a key clip that must be played. Alrighty, where's your key clip? This is the one, this just says Obama... That's a good one. Obama... This damn printer is not printing in black anymore so it's almost impossible to read this printout. Obama... Well, that's a good question. Where is this? I don't know, John. I have no idea. It's kind of an anticlimactic way to begin. We could start all over if it would make you feel better. Well, the White House, they have a new guy that they hired from Google, of course, Megan Smith being a Googler. He worked at Twitter before that, and he is now the engagement director

01:58 And the engagement director, they have a little unit there in the White House, and they have been sending celebrities pre-programmed tweets. for them to send out. What? I know. Good catch. Yeah, and there's even a letter. Let me see if I can find this. Can you tweet this please? Yeah. There's a letter with recommendations mainly about gun violence and let me see, I can probably tie that into the NBC the morning show there, what is it called? The Today Show. They were broadcasting live from the White House before the State of the Union, which I found the preamble to the State of the Union from all the networks and then finally the analysis afterwards, I thought that was the most fun.

02:51 Well, I have to say that Today Show definitely had the upper hand with that being on the White House grounds in the basketball court. Yeah. Over the other guys who were just kind of wandering around. Here's the clip. This is the clip to get us off to the right start. This is the top gaff ISO. Ooh, starting off with an ISO. Always nice. That's not leadership. That's a recipe for quagmire. A recipe for what clogged my log mire isn't it quagmire yes? How do you want to do this? Again, I have a couple of state of the union clips Let me just get you the the NBC thing that's all the way before we start anything. Let's just each of us mm-hmm What did you think well? I I watched the state of the union and

03:52 Then I went back and I read the transcript. Then I watched it again, and I concluded that if you really want to deconstruct what the president was saying, you almost have to play the entire thing because everything was either wishy-washy, untrue, you know, just made up, and completely contradictory to... It was a pack of lies. It really was. Here's the... I just want to do this, the good morning show thing with... Oh, where is it? Is this Trouble Finding Clip Day today? It must be. Yeah, well, it happens. It's not about the Today Show again, I'm sure. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Here's the Today... And this is interesting. When you listen to this guy... So this is a former Googler, Megan Smith... Megan, not Megan Smith. Is it Megan Smith? Who's the White House... The CTO, our Chief Technology Officer of America? Megan Smith.

04:50 He also worked at Twitter. So guys, I'm sure he's got money. Megan Smith is a girl. I know, but this he this guy was hired by Megan. OK, I get it. And so not only he he thinks his poop don't stink and he talks down to the entire Today Show crew, which I really thought was great. When you see their faces like they're all standing in a row. Jason Goldman is the Chief Digital Officer here at the White House. Jason, good morning. Thank you for having us. Well, we have some news to share about a partnership with Facebook tonight in connection with the State of the Union. Tell us. That's right. We recently launched the President's Facebook page and tonight we're going to be doing our first experiment with Facebook Live. So you'll be able to see the President live, talk about what he's thinking about for the State of the Union. I think fundamentally the Internet's a platform for human conversation. People are looking to connect and authentic moments like that are great.

05:44 I think you guys do this really well with the today show That is such a Silicon Valley a-hole when he says, you know I think you guys are really doing well with this little show you have on the morning. I try to do really well because This morning showing stuff behind the scenes is really great a good example of that I think it's the kind of thing that people look for Wow and these are the guys that are sending out the memos to celebrities. Wow. What a presumptuous a-hole. Oh man. Yeah. Wow. I know. But you see Matt Lauer, who is, you know, I mean when you're making, what is he making? 20 million a year? Matt Lauer, he's going to be making a lot of money. I think he makes at least 15. And he thinks, you know, he thinks he's great, whatever. And then to be talked down to by this guy, you have to see the video. It's in the show notes, 790.noagenthenotes.com.

06:43 One more piece here from the today show. Matt Lauer speaks with the president. Let's see. Here we go. Another funny people said after eight years of George W Bush in the White House the American people were hungry For your message of hope and change, but so after seven years of the Obama presidency Do you feel you're responsible for a certain hunger out there for the message that Donald Trump is putting out? I think this is besides him saying Donald Trump. It's actually not a bad question. It's an interesting question, but it's a little

07:22 That's a well. It's a setup of course because you know we know where was this is on today's show This is the today show again yet. It continues. Oh, yeah, the message is Donald Trump's putting out his were you ever hungry for hope just as a side a side note Did you ever have you know during the Bush years for hope you're hungry for hope like a hungry hippo for hope no I was never a hungry hippo for hope but that's what Matt Lauer says People were hungry for hope during the Bush. Somebody was people said after a years of George W. Bush in the White House, the American people were hungry for your message of hope and change. So after seven years of the Obama presidency, do you feel you're responsible for a certain hunger out there for the message that Donald Trump is putting out? The message that Donald Trump's putting out has had

08:06 adherence a lot of times during the course of our history. What does that mean exactly? The message he's putting out, which I presume the president means of hate and xenophobia and racism, has had adherence several times throughout our history. What is he referring to? Civil war? I guess. No idea. Talk to me if he wins. Then we'll have a conversation about how responsible I feel about it. But I'm pretty confident that Overwhelming majority of Americans are looking for the kind of politics that does feed our hopes and not our fears. That does work together and doesn't try to divide us. That isn't looking for simplistic solutions and scapegoating but looks for

08:53 us buckling down and figuring out how do we make things work for the next election. So when you stand and deliver that State of the Union address, in no part of your mind or brain can you imagine Donald Trump standing up one day and delivering a State of the Union address? Well I can imagine it in a Saturday night skit. Look, anything's possible. And I think we shouldn't be complacent. Oh man, Saturday night skit. Okay. I think if anyone is running for president, even the crazy guy with the boot on his head, who has dropped out of the race. Who was that guy? Remember that guy? The crazy guy with a long boot on the top of his head? No. Yeah, you do. He always run every year, every cycle. I'm disappointed that the guy that did the rent's too damn high guy died and he would have been running.

09:55 Who? The black guy? Vermin Supreme. That's the guy with the boot on his head. It doesn't matter. I feel as president... And by the way, I have to say I'm glad they called Trump out on a simplistic message as opposed to hope and change. Which is not simplistic at all. Which is not simplistic. Very complex. So, overall, when I watched this, I was disappointed because I think the only thing the president should have done would be to tee up more hope and change, make people feel positive. But it's so difficult when you have to lie about the true unemployment numbers, the true state of the economy. It just wasn't true. It just was not true what he said, most of what he said.

10:40 I'd say a good yes at most. Now, before we get into...I see you have some clips from the State of the Union. I do. Something happened... And they're generally short. Something happened right before or in the hours before the president was ready to do the speech and this was the quote-unquote sailors who quote-unquote drifted into Iran. You don't have to do that. Okay, but the reason I think there was a reason for that by the way if you want to yeah I'd love that please. Quickie backgrounder just did clips as Iran, Iranian bullcrap.

11:25 Yeah, and I think I know why it's bull crap. The ten American sailors on display, their hands on their heads as the cameras roll. The sailors are asked if their vessels were in Iran's territorial waters. You will hear one sailor's answer and tonight's CENTCOM now saying the Iranian staged the video and that that sailor was trying to defuse a tent situation. ABC's chief foreign correspondent Terry Moran is in Bahrain.

12:04 Tuesday evening around 5 p.m. in the Persian Gulf, the capture. Two American boats are surrounded and subdued as Iranian Navy cameras record the scene. And then a few minutes later, the surrender. Images of the 10 U.S. sailors kneeling, hands on their heads, the Iranians in control. Through the night, Secretary of State Kerry makes five calls to the Iranians demanding the Americans be released, explaining it was a mistake. And those American sailors, nine men and one woman, spend a night in captivity. Their passports are examined, a meal is served, and then a mild but pointed interrogation.

12:44 They served him a meal? Oh my god, what torture. Why would you even do that? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. Okay, so here's what I think happened. Right, just maybe an hour before this, and why are we calling them sailors? This is very strange. I don't think, do they qualify really as just sailors? When you say sailor, I think, hey, ahoy, matey. You know, like a white hat and you know, it's got that bib on the back and everything. These, of course, are military guys. I checked with our military sources, and I will read to you verbatim. Well, sailors are military guys. Yeah, but just to call them sailors was strange. It kind of belittled somehow.

13:25 I'm not buying that, but okay. Yeah, you know... Managing to insult our sailors. Well, there's a couple... So first of all, from our insiders in the military, these types of craft, these watercrafts, often drift into Iranian waters. In fact, it happens every day. Nothing special there, nor was it special that they were, and I have to say in quotes, This was a distraction from the Hillary Clinton email release. I'm almost positive. Because it was Kerry who jumped in, Kerry who, oh, Diplo, I have a couple of clips we can listen to him. But this, they're short, they're short. But everybody was really starting to just do as much as we could,

14:14 All the news was about the sailors and then miraculously just in time for the State of the Union. I was all, will the president have to address this? No, because then Kerry quote unquote fixed it all. He fixed it all. Here's Kerry. I also want to thank the Iranian authorities for their cooperation and quick response. I'm appreciative for the quick and appropriate response of the Iranian authorities. All indications suggest or tell us that our sailors were well taken care of, provided with blankets and food and water and assisted with their return to the fleet earlier today. And I think we can all imagine how a similar situation might have played out three or four years ago. Oh, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets and water. Just send your cash. Now, here's the report, which I think Fox

15:10 did the best job of, because they brought in the pixie girl. The, uh, then you know when the pixie girl comes in, it's serious business. What's her name again? Catherine Harridge, I think is her name. Harridge, the agency. She's a total agent. And this was the news just before the sailor crisis struck. Developing tonight, Hillary Clinton issuing a fierce and outright denial to an exclusive Fox News report that the FBI has launched another investigation into her time as Secretary of State. Sources telling Fox News that agents are looking into whether Mrs. Clinton used her position as the nation's top diplomat to pay off well-connected donors. Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Ennard Apolitano is here to weigh in on this and a new twist in her email scandal. But we begin with Chief Intelligence Correspondent Catherine Herridge who broke this story today. Catherine.

16:00 Megan, three intelligence sources tell Fox News the FBI probe has expanded with one track focused on classified information found on Mrs. Clinton's server and the second track on whether the commingling of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business potentially violated public corruption laws. Fox News has told that FBI agents are investigating the overlap of State Department and Clinton Foundation work and whether donors benefited from their contacts inside the administration. But the latest State Department email released the number of classified emails identified on Mrs. Clinton's private account has risen to at least 1,340, including two at the top secret level. Speaking to the Des Moines Register late today, Clinton again insisted that nothing she sent or received was classified at the time and strongly dismissed Fox's reporting the FBI investigation is expanding. Now listen to the demeanor of Hillary Clinton. Her energy is almost dead and it's like she can't even, she can barely speak.

17:00 Absolutely not. It's an unsourced, irresponsible claim that has no basis and it is something that really is a Now my evidence is circumstantial, but

17:42 I believe that this is what went down and they created this fracas which is very easy because you know it's not like two boats all of a sudden both engines go out, oh our GPS doesn't work, come on. You can get out of there with an iPhone. With the GPS. So okay. The reason why is the video of these sailors kneeling on the boat with their hands clasped behind their head is a 100% blatant violation of the Geneva Convention. If the New York Times was the first to report that Russia were a-holes for doing it by parading Ukrainian soldiers through the street, you are not allowed to embarrass or humiliate any prisoner by the Geneva Convention. And we would be the first to stand up and say, you can't do this. It was a humiliation.

18:38 Great point. It's true, you're right, I forgot all about that, but that's true, you can't do that, and we would have bitched about it. Hell yeah, especially the video. This wasn't, it was staged all right. It was rigged, oh yeah. But it was staged with everybody taking part in it. Yes. Here's what we want you guys to do. Yeah. I think I have, let me see, I have a piece. But that shows you the incompetence of the State Department. They didn't tie up the loose ends. Yeah, it's a loose end. It was a dumb thing to do because that's probably what we do is we don't pay any attention to any of this stuff anymore. I have here a clip from the former Ministry of Defense official from the UK. I think it pertains to this. What have you seen in this video that troubles you or gives you cause for concern about what happened in this? This is, I think, MSNBC.

19:30 There's nothing alarming Lawrence to me in this. Nothing alarming? They bring in the limey guy because whenever you bring in the British accent it always sounds like oh well must be true. It's the British guy. Me in this I mean the... What about those shots? The footage that you're seeing right there on screen is standard protocol. They'll be put in those positions initially just to make sure that they're searched, they've got no weapons on them and just so they're in an orderly fashion so that the people that have apprehended the Muranians can watch them now During resistance to interrogation or during interrogation procedure, those type of positions can be used more... Scant. Torture expert. So they can be stress positions and they can be put there for a long time in order to break people down. But... And he goes on to say... Bull crap. That's Lawrence O'Donnell at his MSNBC. He should have called the guy out immediately, but no. He should have said, this is not a violation of the Geneva Convention. They're part of the game. They're part of the rig. Yes. Alright, so then we... This is my last one that I want you to get into the clips you have.

20:26 This was NBC and I recorded different channels. I also got, you know, the C-SPAN and everything and CNN. By the way, Donna Brazile as a political commentator, I didn't realize it, but she is the vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee. Did you know that? Yeah, I think so. Oh my God, they just bring in a shill. We always knew she was a shill, but I didn't know the credentials behind it. So NBC did a nice little piece, as we expect, you know, who are the celebrities? Who's in the audience? Mark Zuckerberg is there, of course. They had the big Facebook deal going on between the White House and the corporation Facebook, which is, what is that? Isn't that kind of a definition of... You smacked your lips. Yes. Isn't that kind of a definition of fascism? Corporatism. Fascism. Yeah. It's in there. It's an element. This reminded me a lot of Europe.

21:26 when I was back in Europe between 19, end of 1999 and 2010. Part of this night is also about how the outside issues find their way into the chamber through the guests that are here. I've spotted a woman who made a lot of news earlier this year, the Kentucky clerk, Kim Davis, is a guest tonight of an Ohio lawmaker who's the head of the Freedom Caucus, which used to be the Tea Party group in the House. She had been very controversial earlier this year over gay marriage. Also tonight we see the headscarves of many Americans who are Muslim, who were invited by their lawmakers, mostly Democrats making that gesture to try to counter some of the harsh rhetoric on the campaign trail.

22:09 And we've also seen members of the Congressional Black Caucus take their seats along the aisle to wait for this moment when the president arrives. So the headscarf thing, I saw this happen in Europe where politicians, they were all for the multicultural society and we have to support it. And they brought it. This is how the Dutch would say it. This is my true experience, although I think I have. other anecdotal experience from other European countries, they would always bring in what they call the head scarves and then before you know it, things go wrong. This is pandering to... it's pandering. And it's not... it's been proven not... it doesn't work. It makes it worse. Oh, head scarves. Oh great. Is head scarves not by Quran

22:58 The definition of putting women at a lower scale than men. Well, it's not a Quran thing It's actually a cultural thing in parts of the Middle East. It's I thought the Quran is very clear about women I don't know and all it says is not mistaken. You can correct me if you can find a moment. It says women must dress modestly And by modestly, it's been assumed. But... Okay. But even that, modestly, who... What society do we live in where we think that's okay? Modesty you get in the United States. Oh, they wear bathing suits and, you know, some women will walk around with their midriff showing. Decency and modesty and interaction between members of the opposite sex. That is what's in the Quran. Yeah. There's nothing about headscarves.

23:49 It's just a symbol. It's like there's nothing in the Bible that says you should wear a cross around your neck all the time. And so if you're making a big scene, you want to make a big point of that you're a Christian or you're a Bible Maven you've been you wear this big giant cross all the time and you know and it gets in the way of everything you do This is you're doing it to make a point. You're not doing it because you're following any real rules And so this is just symbolism and this anyone who panders to that is really making a huge mistake as far as I know In fact if you want to go with that into that direction, I'll go right to the end of this speech and let's listen to Nikki

24:27 I guess Nikki Barber, the woman who was the governor of South Carolina who gave the idiotic Republican response. Who also, just like the president, and I don't know what's going on, John is my fellow television producing partner, who the hell was responsible for makeup during this job? The president looked like a Cheeto. He was orange. Well, Nikki Barber had yellow cheeks. She was also orange yellow. When I first saw her, first of all, she's made up and she looks exactly like, at least in this showing, Weird Al Yankovic. Dead ringer. Just needs a hat.

25:09 That blue dress was outrageous. It was borderline illegal blue for television. It was just horrible looking. And you don't need to use that much tooth whitener. Oh, that was also quite outrageous. I mean, you're not that Western woman. I gotta tell you, the woman who was the national spokeshole for Trump You know, kind of a mousy looking woman. I forget her name right now, but she's good. She knows how to present on television. Man, she must have an inch of sprayed on crap on her face. These people, now they're really not starting to look real, like human beings. They look like Borg. Like real dolls. I don't know. It's bad.

25:54 It seems to me that they need to get people that are, you know, there's different kinds of makeup. I mean, there's stage make- and it's very different. I want- yeah, but who- does no one have eyes? No, I don't think it's even that. They're just not professional. They do street makeup or they do makeover makeup or- Well, this is spray-on. This is all spray-on makeup. It doesn't look right. No, the color was wrong. The president looked like a Cheeto. Done. You'd be- like, touch him, like, the orange would come off on your hands. Ugh. Well, let's start with Nikki on fixing the broken. We need to be honest with each other and with ourselves. While Democrats in Washington bear much responsibility for the problems facing America today, they do not bear it alone.

26:39 There is more than enough blame to go around. We as Republicans need to own that truth. We need to recognize our contributions to the erosion of the public trust in America's leadership. We need to accept that we've played a role in how and why our government is broken. And then? We need to fix it. This is supposed to be a response to the president's thing. This wasn't anything. It was just a random speech and self-deprecating at that, which doesn't seem right. Why would you do that? Play ABC and Nikki Haley, see where this goes. Kidooking? Paul Ryan applauded.

27:19 From Trump, a big yawn. With the speech still underway, he tweeted, speech is really boring, slow, lethargic, very hard to watch. What happened next certainly got his attention. South Carolina's Governor Nikki Haley, the rising conservative star who famously called for the Confederate flag to come down, included an attack on Trump and the official Republican response to the State of the Union. During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call. of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation. The line caught conservatives, including Rush Limbaugh, by surprise. First time in my life I can remember the response to the State of the Union not going after the president.

28:03 But rather going after the frontrunner of, in this case, her own party. Big night last night. It was. Today I caught up with Governor Haley in Gaston, South Carolina. What is it that Donald Trump is saying that makes him one of these angriest voices? You know, I mean, the one that got me, I think, was when he started saying ban all Muslims. We've never in the history of this country passed any laws or done anything based on race or religion. What? Where is she from? What country is she living in? Is she absolutely clinically insane to say that? I think so. It's been the history of the country. It's what we're good at. Talk about putting the Japanese in internment camps. I mean, what is she thinking? Why is she saying this? She has got to go. The Republican Party is filled with idiots like this. Yeah. Yeah.

28:58 So clipping stuff from the from the State of the Union was complicated because well actually I tried at one point to just cut out all the pauses ah Which shortened you know a clip significantly he also by the way couple of things in the note I was watching as I was pointing it out someone and it was like oh He's smacking his lips. And if you really start paying attention to it, that's all he was doing. He was smacking his lips, which is why I caught you doing it, because I was all keyed up on it. Constantly. Every time he closed his mouth, you could pretty much expect a lip smack when he opened his mouth.

29:41 Well, my clips are all short, so I didn't really have these difficulties. I was looking for certain kinds of anomalies. Yeah, why don't you roll out yours and we'll see... Yeah, these are all pretty short, so let's go over a couple. Most of them were nonsensy. It was one of the worst... Can I ask you a question before we proceed? Yeah. Is this now... We've had famous parting speeches from presidents, but They have not done it in the State of the Union address. Will the president still do like an Eisenhower or a Kennedy type goodbye? Probably, knowing him, yeah, absolutely he's going to do that. And this State of the Union speech, it's gotten to the point where it's so casual. It's not really a State of the Union speech. It's like, listen, da da da da da.

30:25 Look listen, you know, he's like yelling at everybody. Let's start with Obama. What did he say? Okay Boosted graduates in fields like engineering in the coming years. We should build on that progress by providing pre-k for all. Oh, yes I know what he said Because I didn't know what did he say? Oh, you looked it up on the transcript? Well, I read the transcript. Yes. I understood it when he said it too because I'm tuned into it. This is the state takeover of your children by providing pre-K pre-kindergarten for all. Oh, pre-K? Pre-K, yes. You remember that cropped up? Play it again because it sounds like it says free K. No, he's saying pre-K. Boosted graduates in fields like engineering.

31:10 In the coming years, we should build on that progress by providing pre-K for all. And Tina and I looked at each other, we're parents of our own kids and we're like, I don't want to put my kid in the state-sponsored pre-K for all program. No. Of course not. It's ridiculous. But it'll make us better coders, I think is what the president's point was. This coding thing gets on my nerves. It reminds me of this little... Here's an interesting little naive... This is a guy who's never worked for a living, essentially. A president that's never worked for a living. Play this Obama on retraining. Yeah. Say a hard-working American loses his job. We shouldn't just make sure that he can get unemployment insurance. We should make sure that program encourages him to retrain for a business that's ready to hire him. How naive can you be to say what he said right there? But it's very easy because it's very easy to retrain for Uber.

32:10 or what is the Instacart? Any of these great services you can retrain. Can you answer an email message that says go buy this from the store and deliver it to someone's house? Alright, let's try another shorty. These are all decent. This switchback idiot. Switch back, idiots. Show them where the trends are going. And that's why I'm gonna push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources. So that they better reflect the cost they impose on taxpayers and our planet. And that way we put money back into those communities and put tens of thousands of Americans to work building a 21st century transportation system. What? I know.

32:54 Is this back to high-speed rail? What is he talking about? He's talking about the energy infrastructure and blah blah blah blah blah so we can build transportation. I mean it's the craziest thing I've heard. Let's listen to it over again. Let's listen to it again. Show them where the trends are going. The trends. That's why I'm gonna push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources. So that they better reflect the cost they impose on taxpayers. What does he mean by that? Is he talking about the so-called tax breaks oil companies get? Actually, that's another point within this little sentence. What does that mean? And our planet. And that way we put money back into those communities. I think he's talking about getting rid of the subsidies, which is not just for oil companies, I might add. Apple computer gets these. No, the oil company subsidies are mostly oil depletion allowances. It's an old tradition.

33:51 So, when you're drilling a well, it's become worth less and less until as a net asset, it's worthless by the end of its useful time. So, as an asset class, it doesn't have any value anymore. So, you have to be able to write off or write down the value. This is nothing new. But he wants to take away the write-off potential? Yeah, and then turn it into high-speed rail. Let's take the oil wells and turn them into rail cars. I have no idea how he came to this. It seems as though he missed a sentence. That's a good point. That's a good point. There was something that didn't show up in the prompt. He just kept reading like his quagmire. I wonder if they have... Can we find... Because I read as delivered

34:37 the State of the Union as delivered, but I wonder if there's a copy of the State of the Union as written. Yeah, because there's a it could be a difference because it seems that and if I'm doing this and you have enough staffers to do this and you're delivering a speech and then juice you add labor you do something or you miss a whole section or you just drop a whole piece that you don't want to talk about you would have somebody Dogging the script. Mm-hmm, and then they say oh shit. He's not talking about this and then they would X that out and then when you hear this I have I don't as written Now we've got to accelerate the transition away from dirty energy. Does he actually say that? Yeah, he doesn't say dirty energy. Let's listen to him. He doesn't say that. Let me see where he picks it up here. Show them where the trends are going! Okay, let me see if I can find that. Show them where the trends are going! Huh, this is... okay, the way it was written... Now we've got to acce...

35:33 Now we've got to accelerate the transition away from dirty energy. Rather than subsidize the past, we should invest in the future, especially in communities that rely on fossil fuels. That's why I'm going to push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources so that they better reflect the costs they impose on taxpayers and our planet. That way we put money back into those communities and put tens of thousands of Americans to work on building a 21st century transportation system. So that was in there. Yeah. But even as written like a non sequitur. Yeah, he's talking about one thing and he just throws it right then So this was I think this was his transition Because he's energy energy energy clean energy energy energy and then right after this transfer 21st century transportation system None of this will happen overnight. Yes, there are plenty of entrenched interest who want to protect the status quo And then he goes into climate change

36:29 It's just poorly written. It's just poorly written. They had the speechwriter on the Today Show. And he's talking, which is very rare to see. And the guy, you know, he says they produced this, maybe it was on ABC, but they produced this, it was a package. When they produced it, they said that they're having a 48-hour binge writing session to get this thing finished in time. And I'm thinking to myself, hold on a second, 48 hours? That means a lot of Adderall. It means a lot of some sort of drugs to stay awake because you cannot be sharp.

37:12 Take my word for it. Everyone should know this. You cannot be sharp as a tack if you're staying up 48 hours doing mental work like writing a speech. I know, and then you start to make mistakes like putting a yellow duckling in a newsletter. I mean, this is what happens when you don't take Adderall. I need Adderall. Okay, let's go to...we get to the training. Here's another thing. This is Obama on small business. This is one of the little longer clip. Like, I don't know, 30 seconds. Brenton Burchell Oh, like a whole 45 seconds, yeah. Jim Collins He...this...I mean, when I listen to him talk about any of this stuff, and you just have to keep thinking to yourself, this guy has never operated a business, doesn't have anybody in the White House with any business experience or small business experience, and you just listen to him off the cuff. It's like listening to a...

38:07 A 12 year old, you know, who know, a 12 year old knows everything, that doesn't know anything. It's borderline pathetic. Food stamp recipients did not cause the financial crisis. Recklessness on Wall Street did. When I heard that, sorry to interrupt your clip. No, it's fine. Where are the arrests? Recklessness? How about unlawfulness? How about illegality? That to me was a real slap in the face. It was a... what was the exact term? Stamp recipients did not cause the financial crisis. Recklessness on Wall Street did. Recklessness. Recklessness. Do you think that's correct? Recklessness did this? Well, if you start taking it apart, there's a lot of reasons for the collapse and the one that we're... kind of the mini collapse that we're watching right as we speak.

39:00 Recklessness. It doesn't matter. It's just not... Recklessness. How about criminal activity? But no. Let's pretend to piss on Wall Street, but not really. Immigrants aren't the principal reason wages haven't gone up. Those decisions are made in the boardrooms that all too often put quarterly earnings over long-term returns. No. Explain. Well, I mean, if you have a labor pool that is so extensive and you... Wages go down. ...and they work for nothing... Yeah, wages go down. It's remarkable. ...then wages go down. So you could easily say, more likely to say immigrants do cause this.

39:49 But then he says, no, the debate is determined in the boardroom. You've been in boards. I've been on several boards and I don't think we've ever had a conversation. The only compensation conversation that takes place in the boardroom is for the executives. How much they're gonna make right and they have a compensation committee for themselves Exactly, and you always put the guy on the board who's in charge of the comp committee as it's called as your friend You always want your friend there. Yeah, I think I think No clue no doesn't know how it works He doesn't know how it works. It's pathetic and after all these years you think you'd have somebody advise him now I'm not a Valerie Jarrett another well You know the true person who's never worked a day in her life as far as I can tell except for the government For the government's a job. It's a hard-working. It's a hard job, but it's not the same as you know corporate America's a different Let me tell you something doing a podcast is harder than being the president this case

40:48 It's sure not the average family watching tonight that avoids paying taxes through offshore accounts. No, it's the people applauding. The point is, I believe that in this new economy, workers and startups and small businesses need more of a voice, not less. Who's giving him less of a voice? Who are them? What's he talking about? Well they had a voice with Occupy and then Occupy got kicked out. They had a voice. There was Wall Street protests, and they got rolled up and kicked out and hijacked. Now, he begins this thing pretty early on with how great and big our army is and all the rest of it. And they had, of course, the Joint Chiefs of Staff sitting there in the front. Actually, they weren't quite in the front. They don't smile. And on that, we had these interesting shots.

41:43 We had the shot of the Supreme Court justices. We had the shot. Exactly right. But we also had a shot of two nuns. I don't know who they were. Two nuns. And then you'd have a shot of two beards. It was like, oh, let's balance it out. Two nuns, two beards. To me as a television production executive, it seemed pretty obvious they're trying to like Like balance it out a little bit. Oh put some beards in there I don't know what the deal is with it who they were shooting They were shooting at a bleak angle to hit the joint chiefs of staff as though they were sitting right in front of him They were not no and they were chief justice is sitting yeah The justices weren't but they don't want to shoot them anymore peace since Bader Ginsburg fell asleep again

42:27 So they shoot these grumpy old generals over in the show were kind of an oblique angle They looks like they were sitting right there, and they weren't smiling they would stand up once but so here he goes he goes off on a very Contradictory little spiel where he says all these Isis I souls do what you calls them I so yeah, I so is dangerous, but they're Luke Excuse me, they're losers, but this is uh this clip is we are power. Oh This sounds like a show title to me. We are power. Hold on this one Let me tell you something all right. Tell me something. Let me tell you something the United States of America Which is a performative hold on a second? He's just telling us something you have to drop this and stop this a number of times oh

43:16 First of all, is he telling anyone anything new? He presents it as though this is news. He does! It's like, hey you idiots, let me tell you something. We're big! We got a big, big, big, big army. Oh, he should have played the jingle before he did that. I'll try that. I've got information, man. New shit has come to light. Let me tell you something. The United States of America is the most powerful nation on earth. Period. It's not even close. We spend more on our military than the next eight nations combined. Our troops are the finest fighting force in the history of the world. Look at the girth of our army. Long dong army.

44:32 Alright, patriotism, always good. No nation attacks us directly or our allies because they know that's the path to ruin. Kick your ass. Survey show, our standing around the world is higher than when I was elected to this office and when it- That should be Steve Harvey. Survey shows! You know, I'm gonna have to tell ya. I if I had a little more time on these clips you would have done that I would have done that exactly what I was thinking I thought the same thing when I heard it survey shows ding ding ding ding ding surveys show our standing around the world is higher than when I was elected to this office and when it comes to every important international issue

45:15 People of the world do not look to Beijing or Moscow to lead, they call us. If there's a need for a rescue mission, when the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. Yeah, that was a repeat. That was from his last State of the Union that we made that jingle. I think that he should, you know, talk about the Defense Department's budget and how it can't be audited and why it should be. Oh, no, let's not do that. All right. I got one left. That's the last one is small business. What do we have here? I got to bring out the magnifying glass so I can read this damn thing. And people... He really is getting out the magnifying glass.

46:01 The finale. Now go back and eat your kale. Now, what does it even mean to say the following? I believe in change as though it's a religion. I'm not sure what that means. I believe in change because I believe in you. Now, I want you to... I'm asking you, because I couldn't come up with anything. I want you to explain it to me. What does it mean to say, I believe in change because I believe in you? He believes that we, the people, can change and change things. This is my clip. This will bring us into my clips here.

46:55 The president was talking about change that we have to make and only the people of America can make. The future we want, all of us want. Opportunity and security for our families, a rising standard of living. This is the one where I chopped out all of the pauses. It gets a little crazy. Is this from the speech? Yeah. A sustainable, peaceful planet for our kids. All that is within our reach. But it will only happen if we work together. It will only happen if we can have rational, constructive debates. It will only happen if we fix our politics.

47:33 A better politics doesn't mean we have to agree on everything. This is a big country. Different regions, different attitudes, different interests. That's one of our strengths too. Our founders distributed power between states and branches of government. This part I liked, and again, this is, all the pauses are chopped out, and it's much better. It's like rolls a little, okay. Leaving a pause once in a while, but this part was okay what he said. Founders distributed power between states and branches of government and expected us to argue. That's true. Finally, truth. Just as they did fiercely over the size and shape of government, over commerce and foreign relations, over the meaning of liberty and the imperatives of security. But democracy does require basic bonds of trust between its citizens. Now, so when he says democracy, does he mean our entire system, which is a republic? Or does he mean just how democracy works with majority vote wins?

48:32 Because he's going to finish it up talking about the overall system. So he wants to change the we need certain things for democracy. That was unclear to me. It doesn't it doesn't work if we think the people who disagree with us are all motivated by malice. It doesn't work if we think that our political opponents are unpatriotic. This is just he's only saying this to Republicans. that everything is shut up Republicans. Or trying to weaken America. Democracy grinds to a halt without a willingness to compromise. Or when even basic facts are contested. Or when we listen only to those who agree with us. Our public life withers when only the most extreme voices get all the attention. Donald Trump. And most of all, democracy breaks down when the average person feels their voice doesn't matter. Mmm. I don't think democracy breaks down.

49:28 I don't know. This whole thing was very confusing to me. That was the right all the right wing talk show guys picked that one up Yeah, that he said he regretted that he had not been a uniter Yes, because he ran on the platform that he's gonna be unite. I want to remind. Oh yeah, oh Just a little memory lane thing we barely can do it We don't have any clips you probably do but hold on a second if you want to go down memory lane We have to get into our time machine. Where are you going to let me set the controls? I'm going to 2008

50:18 Hey John, welcome to 2008. So the Democrats have got the presidency. They have a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate that is filibuster proof. They own the place. You sound just like George Carlin when you said that. During this period, we were already serious. This is 2008, a few years ago. We were still very serious C-SPAN watchers. Well, I think we still are. We began around there. We still are. And I remember clip after clip of the Democrats in various committees

50:58 Shutting off debate, not letting the Republicans speak. Turning off the lights. Turning off the camera systems even. Turning off the cameras, turning off the lights, turning off the microphones with the Republicans moaning and groaning that they can't get a word in edgewise, they can't get a word in at all. And this was the way it was going along and that's when they, you know, Obama figured he could do anything he wanted and he did nothing. Which is the irony of it. He didn't take advantage of the situation. And then that was the end of it. Now we have, for the first time in American history, we pretty much have The House of Representatives, very rare, by the way, for the House of Representatives to be so dominated by the Republicans. Because I think people got a clue and saw that these guys, this president didn't come in to do any uniting. They came in to run roughshod, roughshod over the Republicans. And we had clip after clip of this. And then, of course, the Republicans took over that. All of a sudden, everyone, oh, well, wait, well, what are we gonna do now?

51:59 It was ridiculous. Let's go back to the current day. Oh Time travel nausea. It's a headache times. Yeah, okay next clip. I have that means if we want a better politics And I'm addressing the American people now. If we want a better politics, it's not enough just to change a congressman or change a senator. Yes, it is. Yeah, why would he say that? Because he's saying something very, I don't think was analyzed properly by most about change. Of course, he's talking about money in the system, but he wants to change the system or change a senator or even change a president.

52:39 We have to change the system to reflect our better selves. Our better selves? Was he calling for a revolution? I think he's calling for overthrow of the government? Yeah, he's calling for the ousting of the Constitution? What is he trying to say? You're right. This has not been analyzed properly. To me it means we need to change to maybe a socialist system? That seems to be the push. Parliamentary? Yeah, could be. with a king? I think we've got to end the practice of drawing our congressional districts so that politicians can pick their voters and not the other way around. Uh, this is about redistricting. Eh, gerrymandering is old. Let a bipartisan do it. Let a bipartisan what something do it? I believe we've got to reduce the influence of money in our politics. Okay, this is where I think he goes way off base. Um, well you'll hear. So that a handful of

53:45 This is obviously hinted towards, but as we've pointed out continuously, the phenomenon known as Donald Trump proves that you don't need rich families, that you don't really need a whole bunch of money at all. The whole city of United thing has turned on its head is bull crap. It hasn't worked out that way, but he continues as if the Koch brothers are funding Donald Trump. Bernie Sanders. Take it out of the rich guy's hand and throw it at Bernie Sanders. He's just going around getting a small donation. He doesn't have the Koch brothers or Citizens United behind him pushing against Hillary. No, thank you. This is nonsense. And he's a real threat to the presumed Democratic nominee. By the way, they've done this whole thing on the Koch brothers saying that, well, the Koch brothers, they funded Hitler.

54:44 Did you see this? Oh, oh my god, the Koch brothers didn't fund Hitler. Well, so apparently in 1933 the original founder of the original Koch had a contract to build parts of a refinery for the Germans. They were done with the contract by 1935, but yet somehow now this has turned into the Koch brothers helped Hitler. Of course, no mention of IBM or General Electric. Or Prescott Bush. Yeah, or Coca-Cola or Prescott Bush. None of that. And Hearst. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's nasty.

55:24 And if our existing approach to campaign finance reform can't pass muster in the courts, we need to work together to find a real solution. Because it's a problem. And most of you don't like raising money. I know. I've done it. He loves raising money. Here he does. Final clip. We've got to make it. Easier to vote now. This is interesting. I believe and this is all I have not seen any analysis of this I believe he is pushing towards online voting Internet voting worst thing in the worst thing you can think of we've got to make it easier to vote not harder See modernize it he's not talking about voter ID laws he's talking about modernizing for the way we live now which I believe to mean

54:44 Did you see this? Oh, oh my god, the Koch brothers didn't fund Hitler. Well, so apparently in 1933 the original founder of the original Koch had a contract to build parts of a refinery for the Germans. They were done with the contract by 1935, but yet somehow now this has turned into the Koch brothers helped Hitler. Of course, no mention of IBM or General Electric. Or Prescott Bush. Yeah, or Coca-Cola or Prescott Bush. None of that. And Hearst. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's nasty.

55:24 And if our existing approach to campaign finance reform can't pass muster in the courts, we need to work together to find a real solution. Because it's a problem. And most of you don't like raising money. I know. I've done it. He loves raising money. Here he does. Final clip. We've got to make it. Easier to vote now. This is interesting. I believe and this is all I have not seen any analysis of this I believe he is pushing towards online voting Internet voting worst thing in the worst thing you can think of we've got to make it easier to vote not harder See modernize it he's not talking about voter ID laws he's talking about modernizing for the way we live now which I believe to mean

56:17 internet voting or some kind of online voting. No, that's exactly what it means. It's not even a theory. That's exactly what he's talking about. Not analyzed as far as I could tell. Now, a couple things post the State of the Union. Very interesting. This was, I don't know if this was, this is not, I think, a mainstream. This might have been the Media Research Center or someone. They got a hold of Kim Davis, who was, you know, we heard one of the guests, Kim Davis is the crazy religious nut job who wouldn't sign the gay marriage certificate. Have you ever heard her speak? No, but she was there with that bouffant hair too. It's like, let's do your hair so you look the part.

57:01 I've never, I've heard her speak, yes. I haven't heard her give a speech, so no. But I would say, you really don't hear money, you see B-roll, you hear voiceover, you never really hear her speak. She's actually pretty calm and eloquent and no doubt as you're hearing this clip, she truly, truly believes, and I'll tell you, you'll see why in a minute. how it felt being out here at the State of the Union tonight? Well, it's very exciting. I consider it a great honor and I'm just thrilled to be here. Good answer does not not crazy nutjob. So how does it feel representing those who believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and Standing for this belief the way you have Well, I'm very honored to stand, you know for God's Word It's always something that I want to base my life on and I want to encourage others and be an encouragement to others to

57:52 the very same. What do you think is President Obama's legacy as he's about to give this last State of the Union tonight? Now listen to this, because this told me that the woman deserves a little more props for her beliefs. I'm not in agreement with her beliefs. You don't have to agree. She can't break the law. There's nothing wrong with that. But she's not a crazy religious, fucked up nut job because of this. I think he has chipped away at American Christian values piece by piece and I hope and I pray that he garners some

58:33 some light at the end of this dark tunnel that we've been in. I love that. She says, I pray for him. She didn't say he's an asshole, horrible man. I pray for, I pray for him that he sees the light in the darkness. She follows her rules. So she got convictions. Yes. So then, you know, and I don't think I can't remember hearing her speak. He always comes, Oh, she must have half a brain. And then we had drools when she talks. Then we had the post... Now, if a hagiographer...hagiography, which is...what is the definition again, John, of hagiography? It's a biography written for the sole purposes of boosting the target of the biography. It's all complimentary. So then someone who writes a hagiography is a hagiographer.

59:19 Well, nobody likes to be called that. Well, she had on two people. He, Charlie Rose, had on two people, which is just fantastic. The first one is, it was like a cum fest, like Bukake, Obama Bukake, Kathleen Parker from the Washington Post. Who is a journalist I believe or is this another is Kathleen Parker just another op-ed person? I don't know, but she's from the watch that you mentioned it I mean I'd have to look her up but from the Washington Post speaking about Obama of course He's an intellectual, but I think he also I love that He's an intellectual as a great deal of a high value of emotional intelligence emotional intelligence

1:00:02 Hold on a second. Let's get this right. High value emotional intelligence. It's off the charts, man. What does that even mean? His emotional intelligence is off the chart in value. Very valuable. He's an intellectual, but I think he also has a great deal of a high value of emotional intelligence You know he he's extremely perceptive and he's you know he's very he's watchful he's interested in the psychology of human motivations and the psychology he's interested in the psychology of human motivations and

1:00:40 Okay, this is I'm playing this just so we can hear the idiocy of the cheerleading squad who are in the mainstream media Conversations with him at all so you can sort of see it in his in his deliberations that whether you agree with his policies or not he he's he's been a very consequential president and he must feel proud about his record if he if you know if he doesn't feel great about having brought the peace love and uh... flowers he's loving flowers to them to capitol hill but i don't know what it is and i think that's too good to be right because i think that's something what's your name again kathleen parker you know i've heard of her she looked pretty official

1:01:26 She looked like she looked like she knew back to Charlie peace love and flowers interrupt you on that because I think that's too glib Because I think there's something wrong with our politics really wrong. There we go and here he's tying right in peace and love won't do it And because of the number of people that I talk to, you know, who I interview, who say, you know, our national security is threatened, our economic life is threatened by this inability to deal with these fundamental issues about our future, about entitlements, about so many issues. OK, so I think the message is Republicans are making us unsafe. Think the message.

1:02:07 Now he brings in John Meacham. Well, that was confusing. Yes, there's no heads or tails to any of this. It's just all Obama's great. This is the cheerleading squad. John Meacham, who has written a book which includes uh... an interview he did with the president so i'm just gonna call this guy a semi haitiographer and came in with a group terrific defense lawyer uh... and uh... to some extent uh... you know who and great doors who i think would agree Great presidents are ones who are in conversation with the culture of their time. Exactly, exactly, exactly. In conversation with their time. And Bill Clinton was, forgive me, Thomas Jefferson was, Franklin Roosevelt was. I want to raise two big issues about him that it does mean. Is there any Republicans ever? No, of course not. To me. And John, all of you. How smart is he?

1:03:07 Are you ready for the because he has to be no drama Obama super intelligent high intellectual capital intelligence value Culture yeah sense of is he one of our brightest presidents You know where this is going Yeah, I think so yes absolutely I think so, and I think it has the pluses and minuses of that. I'm asking from a real standpoint. It's a keen analytical intelligence. He's a great admirer of 41.

1:03:46 And, um, uh... We skipped the other ones. In fact, I interviewed him for the book and he gave me this, uh, you know, he speaks in these wonderful paragraphs anyway. And, uh, it was, it was... Refreshing, isn't it? It was brilliant. You can get a whole page done with it. It's so refreshing. It's so refreshing. It's refreshing. It's refreshing. He speaks in a whole paragraph. It was, it was... Refreshing, isn't it? It was brilliant. You can get a whole page done with it. Oh, yeah, okay, I'm done. I think he... Well, I think, I don't think, I think there's very little he doesn't understand. I think he understands just about a lot more than certainly than I do. Oh yeah, no kidding. He doesn't seem to know how to understand how unemployment works and how retraining works and how small businesses work and how boardrooms work. He doesn't have any understanding of what was important. What are they talking about? Global warming? Yeah, they're just talking about how great he is. This was just to show the cheerleading squad. Well, you showed it. Yeah. Wow. Borderline clip of the day.

1:04:46 Seriously. Oh, thank you very much. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and passion and keep pushing and say in the morning to you, John C with a C stands for see you next Tuesday, Dvorak. Well, I'm pushing as hard as I can. And I want to say in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning, all the boots of ground boots on the ground, boots in the air, boots in the ground, boots on the ground, boots in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. There. In the morning to Look Rad, who was the artiste for episode 789er. I think this is a new... a new artist on the scene. And of course, 789, the title of that was Kidults, and he brought us the image that was the... Now, we should talk about this for a second. This is the Land O'Lakes butter.

1:05:37 And everyone who's listening if you can if you have an opportunity to go to seven eight nine dot no agenda notes calm John's going to explain the gag behind This this image not as used for our show, but for future overall the kids future joke that it's only really shows up in the Midwest because the West Coast is very only recently had Land O'Lakes and nobody knows his gag and The gag goes as follows you need either two cartons or two of those images because you're gonna cut one into pieces and Now, first of all, you take the...and this is a thing that everyone who has Land O'Lakes butter and if they're raised in the Midwest, they've all done this gag and they think it's hilarious. And it actually, the first time somebody shows it to you, it's quite funny.

1:06:25 So what you do is you take that little butter box that the girl's holding in her hands, she's got a copy of the box right there, and you cut it, you cut the top of the box and the sides, so there's a hinge. Yeah, it's like a Christmas calendar, so you can pop it down and see what's behind. So you can pull it down, and then you can pull it down, and that's where the gag is. You then cut out from another image, not the same one, the two knees, just the tips of the woman's knees, you just cut that little square out and then you paste it behind the box that you cut out where it has a little hinge on it. Because those two knees, if you look at them carefully, look like two breasts. And so when you move the knees behind the little butter box,

1:07:09 And then you show somebody, say, hey, look at this, and then you flip the little box on the hinge down. It looks like she's showing her breasts. Now, this is the classic Midwestern landed legs butterbox gag in a nutshell. Hilarious. That's great. By the way, I still do that gag. And there was... somehow... I'd still do that, gang. Somehow that doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me. Hey look! Hey kids. Although it was interesting that neither of us caught the blatant spelling error in the artwork. Oh, what was it? Let's see if you can find it. No, well I don't have it in front of me so I'll look later. Oh. I just wanted to say we have a very poor turnout for this show, 790. And we have one

1:07:57 One person came in with $200 and that is she will become the executive producer for show 790 and that's it. That's all we got. So it's gonna be a short segment here. This is Tina Tawfal. from Half Moon Bay, California over here for 200 bucks. And she says that Ed Tawfal and I have been listening to the show for many years. A shout out to Ed for happy birthday, which is he's on the list. Thanks from his wife. And since we got time on our hands, I think we should give her a big dose of karma. You know what? Why don't I give her a dose of karma with, let's see, maybe I have something new I can play here.

1:08:40 Yeah, I got something to play here. You've got karma. All right. Just some new sounds, some new tunes. Very nice. New tunes we're dropping here on the best podcast in the universe. Yes. And we, of course, will look to the congratulations. We also we have no nights today and all very short birthday list. I do want to mention.

1:09:42 that there are a couple of, you know, since the success of the Dallas-Fort Worth area meetup, people are setting up meetups all over the country. I want to encourage that despite the fact that it's meetup.com, which is admittedly somewhat confusing. Go to meetup.com slash noagenda. There's plenty of them taking place. And as people start to get closer to their meetup dates, drop me an email and we'll certainly promote it for you. So that's it for the executive producers. That's it, that's all we got. Well please remember that we have a show. We're showing, I say. We have a show on Sunday. We do need your help. Dvorak.org slash NA. And if you can't even help us that way, if you had fun today listening to the show, propagate the formula! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

1:10:41 Well now it was just we got to go bomb and stuff out of the way We should go to the funnier side of the of the elections of the elections and talk a little bit about Trump Okay, so I I poached on your territory. That's okay. You went to CNN or you go to the view? Oh No, no, no. CNN. You went to CNN. Okay. That's all right. Caught Aaron. Ah, burn it. Interviewing Trump. Do you need a setup? I don't know if we need a setup, but Trump is funny because he will, he'll turn on the, he's pretty friendly with her and back and forth, but he only puts up with so much. He doesn't really suffer fools is the old word for it because it's like,

1:11:32 He played this clip and this is a good example of him just not putting up with nonsense. This is the clip of where he says the word disavow. So it's Trump disavow clip. Hold on, I had the wrong one. And one question before we go, Mr. Trump. There's a white nationalist super PAC. They say they've started a robocall campaign in Iowa. It urges voters to vote for you because of your proposed temporary ban on Muslims. And I wanted to play for you a brief clip from the robocall. Here it is. Hello, white people. We don't need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people who will assimilate to our culture. Vote Trump.

1:12:14 That didn't sound like a phone call at all. That sounded like—that was not recorded through a telephone. Doesn't sound like it. I don't know where they got it from, but that's not what I know. Mr. Trump, when you hear that, does that shock you? Do you denounce that? Nothing in this country shocks me. I would disavow it, but nothing in this country shocks me. People are angry. They're angry at what's going on. They're angry at the border. They're angry at the crime. They're angry at people coming in and shooting Kate in the back in California, in San Francisco. They're angry when Jamil Shaw is shot in the face by an illegal immigrant. They're angry when the woman, the veteran, 65 years old, is raped, sodomized and killed by an illegal immigrant. And they're very angry about it. And, by the way, and thousands of other cases like that. They're very angry about it. So I would disavow that. But I will tell you, people are extremely angry. People are extremely angry. But to be clear, when he says we need smart, well-educated white people to assimilate to our culture, vote Trump, you're saying you disavow that, you do denounce that?

1:13:16 Well, you just heard me. I said it. How many times do you want me to say it? A third would be good. I said I disavow. And they just kept on going. It's like, you know, what is the, what is she, what was the point of her doing that? Was she had somebody make him say it again? Probably. What is going on with these, these networks? They're trying to, he says it, he says it. And then she says, can you say it? I said it. I said it. Okay. I'll say it again. I mean, in fact, I actually stunned that he gave into her, but she had to, he had no choice. Now, the interesting thing about this is the guy who's that voice was vote Trump, that guy. Yeah. That's Jared Taylor.

1:13:53 who I happen to know. Who is he? Jared Taylor is a very interesting character. If you got a minute, I'll give you his background. Of course I got it. I got all hours. Jared Taylor used to be the... No, stop, John. We have to hit the commercial break. The spreadsheet guy for PC Magazine. He was the spreadsheet reviewer. During the era where there were various spreadsheets that had to be reviewed, it wasn't all just one. You know, this is in the 80s and 90s. 80s mostly when you could actually have stuff that, you know, it wasn't all one product like today. And so, Jared was the most intellectual, if anybody, that worked at the magazine. And he wrote a book in 1983 that I would recommend everybody get a hold of if you wanna understand Japanese culture. He was raised in Japan. I think he went to Princeton, called, Shadows of the Rising Sun, A Critical View of Japanese Miracle. And this is written during that era where, if you remember, in the mid-'80s,

1:14:50 Everybody was saying, oh, the Japanese are killing us. We should, all of our business should be run like Japanese business. Oh, I remember that. In fact, we had shadow management in firms. Yes, it's all this crap going on. Then the Japanese stock market collapsed. Like, to an extreme and never recovered sense, by the way. And then everyone, shh, don't talk about this anymore. Jared's book was more of a critique of the Japanese culture as a whole and thought the whole idea of the Japanese miracle was bogus. And this book was really good. And this guy, and then he did another kind of a follow-up book. But this guy would have, should have been like one of the great sociologists in, I don't

1:15:36 in the university system. I mean, he really, this, reading this book is dynamite. So the question, of course, is you know him. Do you know him as a white supremacist? Well, only recently. So, I'll give you the rest of the story. So, he continues on his career and he decides to write a...this is in 1992 or 91 when he started this because at the time I was still in contact with him. He decides to do this book called, The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions. which was the title was changed, which irked him to paved with good intentions. The failure of race relations in contemporary America. And this book was a very, I mean, I think it took him like two or three years of being in the library at Stanford just documenting everything he could about mostly about black dysfunction.

1:16:30 And it was like...the book came out, he had volumes. I talked to him about this book. I said, this is the way you're doing this book, I don't think it's right. I think you're gonna get in trouble because it's just too much. I mean, you're just...you're not tempering anything, you're just going crazy. And so he...which is what it did. And it just slammed the black community and the black culture for being a bunch of screw-ups for all practical purposes. That's what it came out to read like when you read it. All his facts were there, but it was presented, I thought, poorly. And of course, if he heard me say this, he'd probably think I was an a-hole for saying it. But he got so much backlash

1:17:16 Tons of it from whites and blacks and everybody in between for this book that he turned him literally I believe turned him into a white supremacist. Well, I'll correct us. White nationalist, not supremacist nationalist. Right, he's not a white supremacist. He's a white nationalist. White nationalism is an ideology that advocates a racial definition of national identity. These individuals identify and are attached to the perceived white nation. It ranges from a preference for one's ethnic group to feelings of superiority and forms of white supremacism, including calls for national citizenship,

1:17:55 to be reserved for white people as in Rhodesia. This is where it all led and so he went to next book was the real American dilemma and then he went a race against time racial heresies and he got worse and worse and this he kept painting himself into a corner white identity became one of his here's how I believe that it was the result of his I think he was actually sincere and an honest Straightforward researcher that was driven literally driven into this corner According to the Wikipedia and Jared is mentioned here But the first heading under the descriptor views white nationalists argue that every nationality feels a natural affection for its own kind they advocate racial self-preservation and claim that culture is a product of race according to

1:18:47 White nationalist Samuel T. Francis, it is a movement that rejects equality as an ideal and insists on an enduring core of human nature transmitted by heredity. Jared Taylor, a white nationalist, claims that similar racial views were held by mainstream American leaders before the 1950s. It wouldn't surprise me. The optics of this are not good. The optics of this are not good for Mr. Ticot. No, the optics are terrible. And he's never had an appreciation for that as he went off. And now he's... I mean, of course, he wouldn't give me a review copy of a couple of his books. Well, that ends that. I found that was very annoying. He's a guy who's giving me a book, a free book. All right. But he said... I haven't heard from him for... I haven't heard from him for 20 years. All right. But I want to cover a few things about the Clintons.

1:19:35 Bill Clinton was supposed to jump in and start campaigning and kick an ass and boy have they been quiet, both of them. Very, very quiet. And this is, I think because Donald Trump called out and said, you know, if you're going to play the woman card, you're going to call me a misogynist and you're going to have your husband on the campaign trail, I'm going to call him out for all of his creepy behavior. So let's have a little rundown of some of the mainstream media's addressing that very point. We start off with Nancy Pelosi would be a good way to start off. Let's hear how the excuses are made.

1:20:15 And we saw a noticeable change in Clinton world. I was out on the campaign and the pulling back by both Hillary and Bill Clinton, the new caution out there because obviously Donald Trump is a volatile adversary. How fraught is this with risk for the Democratic Party and for Hillary Clinton's candidacy? Well, I believe that Hillary Clinton wants to talk about the issues that affect people and their everyday life. But on this issue of sexism and the issue of Bill Clinton's past, is that fair game? It would be if he were running for president, but he isn't. Hillary Clinton is running for president. But he's a chief surrogate for her.

1:20:58 What do you do now that Trump has opened this up? Well, I think that you stick with what is important to the American people. And what is important to American people is their financial stability. What happened to security? And that is what elections are about. And that's why I say it's a race between trickle-down economics, tax breaks for special interest and the very wealthy, and hopefully it trickles down and creates jobs. We're recognizing we're a consumer economy and the success of the middle class and its consumer confidence is what is going to grow our economy. It's essential to the growth of our economy and that's what this election should be about, not about what Bill Clinton is doing.

1:21:36 Clinton did two decades ago. Oh, see when it's two decades ago then it's okay. She said what he did. She didn't say what he's alleged to have done. That's true. Here's NBC addressing it with Hillary Clinton herself. You called Bill Clinton your not so secret weapon but Donald Trump recently went on the attack saying because you accused him of sexism you opened the door to allegations about President Clinton's past misbehavior. Was that a tactical mistake on your end? Did you open the door to those attacks? No answer to that, obviously. Donna Brazile, the CNN...

1:22:12 Ex-political commentator who is an insider, a highly ranked official in the Democratic National Committee. Donna, let me read this to you from Michelle Goldberg, a feminist writer writing in the liberal website Slate. She says, feminists have repeatedly and convincingly made the case that when women say they've been sexually assaulted, we should assume they're telling the truth. Particularly when it comes to the story of Juanita Broderick, it's not easy to square the arguments against believing her with the dominant progressive consensus on trusting victims. What do you think? Well, first of all, in the context of Donald Trump who has built his campaign on mocking women, attacking immigrants, of course, and smearing Muslims. Smearing Muslims? Hey, Wannabegel wants a Muslim smear on that? I'm not surprised. What's she talking about? She's smearing Muslims. First of all, attacking women. Really? Attacking women? With the dominant progressive consensus on trusting victims. What do you think? Let's review.

1:23:14 Well, first of all, in the context of Donald Trump who has built his campaign on mocking women. I think he built his campaign on the slogan, Make America Great Again. But okay, mocking women. Attacking immigrants. Attacking immigrants with a... blackjack maybe I don't know he's just attacking of course and smearing Muslims smearing Muslims I think it should be smearing Muslims I'm not surprised that Donald Trump has decided to go into what I call the sleaze basket to try to bring up anything that would keep him from having a real conversation about issues that matters to the American people. When it comes to sexual assault, violence against women, I think Democrats and liberals and progressives have a good history on ensuring that women are able to tell their truth and to ensure that there are laws properly on the books to allow victims of these

1:24:07 crimes and abuses to have their day. So I don't think there's any contradiction there. Now, if Donald Trump believed that this is one way to silence Hillary Clinton when she brings up his misogyny and his attacks on women, I don't think that's going to work either. Yeah, we'll see. We shall see. Seems to have worked already. I agree. And I have to say, Alison Camerota from CNN Not that Hillary Clinton replied. Before you mention it, I want to point out something that's a generality that I found very interesting. That when Trump first presented this idea, everybody in the media

1:24:46 All the Democrats in the media, almost to a man and woman, said, yeah, he's fair game. Yeah, he's fair game. Just like Trump said, he's fair game. They all took, I don't know if they did it because it's going to be entertaining, but it seems as if, and I think you're going to show another example of this, that the Media's all in with Trump blasting Clinton. I'm getting the sense that they're sick of Bill Clinton. Listen to Allison Camerota, I agree with you. I want to talk about an issue that Donald Trump wants to make an issue in this campaign and that is our allegations from your husband's past. He's going further actually than that. He's making it about you. He's saying that you are an enabler of bad behavior and of sexual assault. And now my analysis would be yes.

1:25:32 Yes, and it was most definitely Hillary Clinton who anyone who said that Bill Clinton had sex with them or whatever been claimed But she would shut up. Don't give them the benefit of the doubt don't get the benefit of the doubt response I have no response. I'm gonna let him whatever he wants to say he can run his campaign however he wishes I'm going to keep talking about what the next president is will have to do starting January 20th, 2017. I have deep disagreements with what he's proposing. His tax plans would cut trillions of dollars of taxes from the wealthy and corporations.

1:26:11 He doesn't believe in equal pay. He thinks that American workers are already making too much. So I'm going to draw the contrast with him that I think the American people are interested in seeing. But when someone accuses you of being an enabler of sexual assault, don't you need to respond to it? I mean, particularly since this is an issue that you wanted to talk about on the campaign trail. Campus sexual assault. You say that survivors need to be believed and they need to be heard. Yes. you of doing something that is the antithesis of what you want to talk about. Don't you need to address it? I'm gonna let the voters decide what's relevant and what's not relevant in their decision as to who they're going to support. So she's just not going. But I thought that was good. I thought that was good. I thought very good. Allison Camrota did that. So now I have a little segment which is things the media will not discuss. And this is a jingle we should have one.

1:27:06 We do not have a jingle. Damn. Things the media will not discuss. Things the media will not discuss. Tuesday marks six years since a 7.0-magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, killing an estimated 300,000 people. Tens of thousands of Haitians are still living in tents. Here in New York City, a group of Haitians gathered in front of the Clinton Foundation to protest former President Bill Clinton's role as head of the interim Haiti Recovery Commission. Activist Dahoud André was among them. Today is the 12th of January 2016, six years after the earthquake. And for us it was important to be in front of the Clinton Foundation because Bill Clinton as head of the

1:27:49 IHRC, Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, was responsible for the $6 billion that came into his hands. He had unlimited control of this money. Six years after the earthquake, not much has changed. And as a matter of fact, Haiti is in worse condition than it was in 2010. Only Bill Clinton can tell the world what happened with this money. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. So, nice that Democracy Now! at least covered the protests, but things that will not be discussed in the media. Number two... Excellent one. Yes. And thank you, sir... We talk about it all the time. Sir Atomic Rod Adams caught that one for me.

1:28:36 Then this was Morning Joe and this is so, I mean it's just so obvious that everybody knows what's going on, everybody's heard about it, but we're not going to talk about it. And the Joe guy, which is Scarborough, kind of goes in, he's really couching, not really saying, doesn't want to get in trouble himself, but he's saying that the media will not talk about Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein is the guy who had a private island where he had his friends, including Bill Clinton, come and have sex with underage girls. Minors. Minors, yes. Minors. And so Morning Joe tries to

1:29:18 explain what it is but without really explaining it and then saying people won't talk about it. The same thing has happened in the lead up to this campaign. Everybody's talking about, I don't know this Jeffrey Epstein guy. Is that his right name? Oh, oh gee, I don't know who's this Jeffrey Epstein guy. I have no idea who he is because I don't have access to Wikipedia. Jeffrey Epstein. People in the know, always talking about Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. I don't even know who that dude is. But I know that people that are in the know, that are in this media area that don't do what I do, which is go to work and then go home and hang out with their kids, they talk about Jeffrey Epstein. And this is going to be a big problem because Bill Clinton and da-da-da-da-da. And there's always this swirl. And it's not by right-wingers. It's by

1:30:04 the most powerful people in media and they're always going like, these would be really bad, bad issues for Hillary and Bill if anybody had the guts to bring it up. Nobody does. That's what makes Donald Trump more dangerous than any person. out there, he will bring up stuff that nobody else will bring up. And anybody thinking in the Clinton campaign that they're going to get a break because it's Donald Trump doing this instead of Jeb Bush, you are in la la land because there are no rules when it comes to Donald Trump for any of us, for anybody, anywhere. And I believe truly this is the reason why the Clinton shut up and shut down.

1:30:51 Because Trump will do it. I'm sure he'll do it. Of course he'll do it. Yeah, how about that minor island? These other guys should have been doing it. If you remember last, the 2012 campaign, The right-wing talk show guys and largely some of the left-wing talk show guys were always talking about how come they nobody went for the juggler. Oh, why don't they bring this up? Why don't they bring that up? Why don't they talk about this? Why don't they talk about that? They never talked about anything was a genteel thing Romney was like, you know, he was too above it all. Yeah, I wasn't gonna bring he wasn't going to leave I'm not going there. That's why you lose I'm a nice person that loser the

1:31:28 Well, that's what it amounts to, is a loser. But the thing is that I'm sure that they've got skeletons in their closets too. Sure. This is the most interesting thing that we've seen because Trump will bring all this stuff out. I'm convinced of it. Then we have a new tactic. So, which is... Just for a second. Trump, by the way, was on The Tonight Show again. Yeah. on Monday. You got a clip? No, because there was nothing to clip. But I watched the whole thing and it was a complete... This was Jimmy Fallon who always likes to do skits and gags. He does a kind of a minor little gag with him doing a job interview with Trump. Yeah, I saw this. Dumb. It's dumb. Yeah, dumb. Jimmy Fallon is dumb.

1:30:51 Because Trump will do it. I'm sure he'll do it. Of course he'll do it. Yeah, how about that minor island? These other guys should have been doing it. If you remember last, the 2012 campaign, The right-wing talk show guys and largely some of the left-wing talk show guys were always talking about how come they nobody went for the juggler. Oh, why don't they bring this up? Why don't they bring that up? Why don't they talk about this? Why don't they talk about that? They never talked about anything was a genteel thing Romney was like, you know, he was too above it all. Yeah, I wasn't gonna bring he wasn't going to leave I'm not going there. That's why you lose I'm a nice person that loser the

1:31:28 Well, that's what it amounts to, is a loser. But the thing is that I'm sure that they've got skeletons in their closets too. Sure. This is the most interesting thing that we've seen because Trump will bring all this stuff out. I'm convinced of it. Then we have a new tactic. So, which is... Just for a second. Trump, by the way, was on The Tonight Show again. Yeah. on Monday. You got a clip? No, because there was nothing to clip. But I watched the whole thing and it was a complete... This was Jimmy Fallon who always likes to do skits and gags. He does a kind of a minor little gag with him doing a job interview with Trump. Yeah, I saw this. Dumb. It's dumb. Yeah, dumb. Jimmy Fallon is dumb.

1:32:17 What's interesting to me is that the first time he had him on, they did a very demeaning routine with him. And Trump took it, you know, he's got a sense of humor, he didn't care. But this was so different in tone and so close to the last time he was on this show. I have this suspicion now as a 3x3 analyst that NBC has changed its position on Trump. Hold on a second, Joe. Now it's time for 3x3. Experiment by JCD Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC The never-ending 3x3

1:32:57 I'm assuming because the Comcast, Comcast is kind of well known as Republicans, they were, as we noticed watching the whole thing, they were running ABC, I mean, sorry, they were running kind of, they weren't running for anybody. They were doing a pretty good job of staying kind of neutral and kind of slamming everybody. But I think that they had a little thing going for Jeb like ABC did. Only they weren't gonna commit. I think they've committed to Trump. I think NBC. I'm gonna watch NBC. Okay, okay, Trump bias Yeah, you need to continue the three by three for that. I'm gonna go very important. I see times of peril So here's what parents do when they're in trouble. You're in trouble. You know, it's like your wife's running for president You know, she's got all these emails that implicate her in you know, really knowing what was happening in Benghazi this you know,

1:33:50 Sidney Blumenthal and her going back and forth recommending that we get the Palestinians to protest, which has completely gone unreported or severely underreported. And then we've got your husband's philandering, misogyny, impossible illegal sexual activity with minors. What do you do? You tell your kid to get out on the stage. That's what I'd do. Of course. Yeah, have Chelsea come out and say something. In this case, she's going to distract away from all of that by talking about Bernie Sanders. A couple of things are interesting here. The most interesting is her lack of ability to enunciate.

1:34:32 I'm surprised that someone who grows up in the Clinton family just can't speak well. Senator Sanders wants to dismantle... Senator... Senator... She misses entire consonants. Senator... Senator Sanders wants to dismantle Obamacare. Dismantle... Dismantle... Dismantle... Dismantle... not dismantle. She keeps saying dismantle. She says dismantle. Dismantle. Dismantle. Senator Sanders wants to dismantle Obamacare, dismantle the CHIP program, dismantle Medicare, dismantle private insurance. Now, the Republicans in Congress have voted against the Affordable Care Act 55 times. So I worry that if we give Republicans Democratic permission to do that,

1:35:14 We'll go back to an era before we had the Affordable Care Act. That's not an era, darling. There wasn't an era before the Affordable Care Act. It was a couple years ago. We'll go back to an era of medieval times with bloodletting. I don't know, but no. Before. I'm not having permission to do that. We'll go back to an era before we had the Affordable Care Act that will strip millions and millions and millions of people of their health insurance.

1:35:56 We're just going to Bernie Sanders now briefly. His response to the head of CBS had a big question and answer forum thing and this question came up. Is it off-brand for a democratic socialist to live in a mansion like the White House? Well, I would consider it more like public housing. Very funny answer, but... Good one, yes. But it's true. He should pronounce that. He said, open to the people. I'll sleep in the trailer. Well, that's actually kind of what Jerry Brown used to do when he was first governor of California. I think he still may be doing it. He refused to live in the statehouse and preferred living in an apartment nearby. He thought it was a waste of the taxpayers' money. So it's not unusual.

1:36:49 I caught something that I believe to be very important and this goes back to the beginning of the show about the new global engagement officer. Sorry. Before you get off to Sanders and Hillary, I do want to mention one thing. Some of the polls that have come out recently have shown that women The women, the Democrat women voters that are the ones that want a woman president now are way, they're 55% in favor of Bernie. They want Bernie. They don't want Hillary. They want Bernie? Yeah, they want Bernie. Dave Weiner, co-creator of podcasting, posted that he's voting for Hillary and his re, he said, I will not vote for Bernie because he's too Jewish.

1:37:34 And I did not know this term, but he has a pretty interesting blog post about it at scripting.com. And he says, Jewish people understand this. He's too Jewish, which means he's a hard nose, he doesn't want to agree with anybody, and apparently Jews don't like old coots who are too Jewish. Then, of course, I can't say that. I'm not Jewish. I can't...you know, you're not given that permission. But I thought it was interesting and this seems to be a thing. So you'd rather have a criminal? Yeah, apparently. So I received this...well, I didn't receive it through one of these many...I subscribe to a lot of the federal technology news blogs.

1:38:14 which is fascinating if you look at the amount of money that's being spent on technology. For instance, we have a tender out there for $50 billion, which will go to a single provider of technology services. So this is big, big business and it's all coming ahead now. But we've created the State Department, who are no strangers to this, have now gone official and they released January 8th, The news about a new Center for Global Engagement. And this will be called, it's a State Department Department, the Center for Global Engagement. And I'd like to share the press release with us. The State Department is revamping its counter-violent extremist communications efforts through a new Global Engagement Center.

1:39:09 This center will more effectively coordinate, integrate and synchronize messaging to foreign audiences that undermines the disinformation espoused by violent extremist groups including ISIL and Al-Qaeda and that offers positive alternatives. The Center will focus more on empowering and enabling partners, governmental and non-governmental, who are able to speak out against these groups and provide an alternative to ISIL's nihilistic vision. To that end, the Center will offer services ranging from planning thematic social media campaigns, to providing factual information that counters disinformation, to building capacity for third parties to effectively utilize social media to research and evaluation.

1:39:54 The State Department is pleased to announce the appointment of Michael D. Lumpkin to lead this new effort as the director of the new Global Engagement Center. Mr. Lumpkin currently serves as Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations slash Low Intensity Conflict, a Senate-confirmed position he has held since late 2013. In this role, Mr. Lumpkin oversees all special operations including counterterrorism, counter-narcotics and humanitarian disaster relief efforts. Uh, then... Social media expert? Techno experts, baby. Under Mr. Lumpkin's leadership, the Global Engagement Center will employ a strategy defined by... Here we go. Drawing upon data and metrics to develop, test, and evaluate themes, messages, and messengers. Gotta love this. Building narratives around thematic campaigns on the misdeeds of our enemy, e.g. poor governance, abusive women, narratives of defectors, not the daily news cycle.

1:40:51 focusing on driving third-party content in addition to our own and nurturing and empowering a global network of positive messengers. The Central implement its strategy by Seeking out and engaging the best talent within the technology sector, government and beyond. Engaging across our government to coordinate, integrate and synchronize counter-terrorism communications directed towards foreign audiences. Identify and enabling international partners with credibility and expertise. Establishing and implementing a campaign-focused culture. Scaling up data science and analytics and using both throughout the design, implementation and evaluation phases of these campaigns.

1:41:33 providing seed funding and other support to non-governmental organizations and media startups focused on countering violent extreme messaging, identifying gaps in U.S. government messaging and counter-messaging capabilities directed toward foreign audiences and recommended steps to resolve them, and sharing information and best practices with U.S. government agencies focused on the challenge of homegrown violent extremism. This is propaganda. Yeah. institutionalized. Yeah, well now what's the budget you said? No, we don't know the budget, but just for technology alone there's a 50 billion dollar budget. This is going to be within the State Department. Oh, it's going to be a lot of money. Let's start a couple websites. Yes, this is my point.

1:42:20 They're going to fund startups. Yeah, like Pando Daily. We need some jazzy name. We got good artists that can help us design the thing. We can get some dough. We should be able to get a lot of dough. And some dough, yeah. We don't even need a website. We just need tweeters. They're going to support tweeters with information. A room of tweeters. Yeah, a room of tweeters. You could do that. The Russians do it. They have like this thing. Apparently we had a clip that they had 50 people. They have 50 people in a room tweeting all day. They all subscribe to each other's feeds. And one of the things they lack, they're not very good at getting their numbers up in terms of followers. Yeah, but if they have enough of them. And I think that can be solved. If they have enough of them.

1:43:06 They just don't have, you know, if you look at these phony baloney Twitter people, the Stooges, they really very rarely have over 50 followers. It's just not right. You gotta buy followers, pat it, nobody ever checks. But here, it's very simple to do because you get someone else to tweet and then you have the POTUS account retweet it. Done. It's that simple. It's that simple. Yeah, well, you'd have to do that, but you can't overdo that. It would have to be done with every one of the 50 people. Say over a year period, you could promote every one of the 50 people through the POTUS website and they would jerk up their followers by hundreds immediately, maybe thousands.

1:43:48 The technical experts... Yeah, it's very doable. We could do this. This is something we, you and I, as media experts could do just the drop of a hat, especially if we have donations like this. Well, that's my point. This is a viable plan B, John. It's a viable plan B. Yes, very viable. I just want to... We should consider it as a viable plan B. It's a very viable plan. And all of this comes in... And it would be fun anyway. It would be totally fun. And all this comes amidst very sad news. Slumping oil prices are one reason the oil producing nation of Qatar is shutting down the cable news channel Al Jazeera America. Al Jazeera's Arabic language channel has a reputation for being anti-American. This may be a bit of a stretch to say it's because of oil. I wonder what happened. The clip where Hillary says everyone should watch Al Jazeera. Remember that one?

1:44:44 Oh yeah. Well, this shutting down thing, I got a different perspective on this from a local sports network, NBC, CBS, whatever it is, I think NBC Sports Net. And what happened is Al Jazeera, even though this didn't get a lot of publicity, but they got enough publicity in the sport lovers community, they slammed Peyton Manning and some other athletes and accused them without ever using their names but accused them, it was pretty obvious who they were talking about, for taking HGH and maybe steroids. And so the bunch of these guys decided to turn around with a good case from everybody's perspective and sue Al Jazeera America. This lawyer that was on he says,

1:45:32 He's pretty sure that the way this because they were losing their ass anyway, and there were there was kind of on You know they were not making money at that with this network because it was nobody watched it I did but nobody watched in general they decided this cut their losses and bail and get out of town and go back to Qatar. And so if you're going to sue us for slander, it was the slander suit or something along those lines, you're going to have to get the money out of us over here because they know no one's going to do that. They're not going to track them down. And that was one of the main reasons that they've buttoned up.

1:46:12 Okay, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's... Tens of millions of dollars. Wow, that's good. Yeah. That makes sense. So the American system wins again. Okay. Man, there is a lot going on. A little entremont just to kind of get in. Again, something I've discovered based upon a news piece. I think we're one of the few people who like to report on vape and vaping as accurately as possible. Yes, in fact, you went to the vaping conference. The Vape Summit. You probably know as much as anyone broadcasting in the world today. Thank you, I do. And I've...so a law, a bill passed the House, it already passed the Senate, and it's going to be signed by the President.

1:47:00 which is always interesting when people report on a bill and you have to, no one reported on the bill number or none of the print, I had to really search for about 20 minutes just to find this bill that passed. Here's the story. The US House of Representatives passed a bill today which would require childproof packaging e-cigarettes and the liquid that goes with them. More than 3,000 people reported e-cigarette and liquid nicotine poisonings in 2015. That's up more than tenfold from only five years ago. According to the American Association of Poison Control Centers, more than half of the reported calls in 2014 were for children.

1:46:12 Okay, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's... Tens of millions of dollars. Wow, that's good. Yeah. That makes sense. So the American system wins again. Okay. Man, there is a lot going on. A little entremont just to kind of get in. Again, something I've discovered based upon a news piece. I think we're one of the few people who like to report on vape and vaping as accurately as possible. Yes, in fact, you went to the vaping conference. The Vape Summit. You probably know as much as anyone broadcasting in the world today. Thank you, I do. And I've...so a law, a bill passed the House, it already passed the Senate, and it's going to be signed by the President.

1:47:00 which is always interesting when people report on a bill and you have to, no one reported on the bill number or none of the print, I had to really search for about 20 minutes just to find this bill that passed. Here's the story. The US House of Representatives passed a bill today which would require childproof packaging e-cigarettes and the liquid that goes with them. More than 3,000 people reported e-cigarette and liquid nicotine poisonings in 2015. That's up more than tenfold from only five years ago. According to the American Association of Poison Control Centers, more than half of the reported calls in 2014 were for children.

1:47:37 under the age of 13. And this I agree with. Nicotine is a very dangerous thing to have laying around the house. You can get nicotine poisoning very, very quickly. But this is a red herring for when one goes in to read the actual bill and God forbid the media do that. This is the Senate version the House passed at 142. known as, this act may be cited as the Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015. They go through a whole rigmarole on how you have to package these dangerous liquids. But that's not what it's really about. The last paragraph here includes an exclusion. And this tells us where the vaping industry is going. So first of all,

1:48:32 to get the approval on your packaging, it's tamper-proof, forget about it. No small guys are going to be able to do that. No one making e-liquids in their bathtub. But I think e-liquids are going to go away entirely through legislation because of this exclusion. The term liquid nicotine container does not include the a sealed, pre-filled, and disposable container of nicotine in the solution or other form in which such container is inserted directly into an electronic cigarette, electronic nicotine delivery system, or other similar product. If the nicotine in the container is inaccessible through customary or reasonably foreseeable handling or use, including reasonable foreseeable ingestion or other contact by children, this is where it's going to go.

1:49:17 And that will be impossible for anyone who's in the business of vape devices, which will also have to be approved, and vape liquids. You're going to be out of the market. That's it? Yeah. Okay, well let me, can I counter a little maybe? Yeah, sure. So what you're saying, and I don't think you explained it very, you could have explained it better. I think you could have. Well, you're I could be wrong with the interpretation But what I'm hearing you is that the entire process of the vape device itself will be some sort of a contained system that will use like cartridges Yes, special kinds of yes, just that have like they're like a Nintendo cartridge. They have some sort of yes License or patent and you put the thing in there and then you could pull something and the next thing you know You're vaping up and it's all part of a closed system. Yep, and

1:50:12 that is only allowable by the manufacturer of the product, the vaping device. And that's why we do the show together. So thank you for explaining my position. I think that... Well, good. I'm glad that's what you were saying because that's what I thought was an interesting idea. Because it is the logical way these things... It is the way the business works and then somebody gets a, you know, a monopoly and you can't... Now, the question is, will it be allowable or will the government, depending on whether or not we have the kind of Regulators that will allow this that you can clone make a compatible, a plug compatible, as it were, little cartridge that has the goo in it that you can use in the XYZ patented vaping device. I'm guessing yes. Yeah, what I'm seeing is the regulatory language around creating the devices and the cartridges will be...I mean, this is...no one has done this. Everybody's making juice in their bathtub or something on a bigger scale.

1:51:13 And they don't have the manufacturing, the tooling, any of that. None of it. No, they will not be able to do it. I am in total disagreement with that part. Okay. And here's what I'm thinking, because what happens, generally speaking, when you have a market that's this monstrous... You have jobbers that show up, entire companies whose job it is. It's like a semiconductor company, a CMOS plant. You can go in there with your plants. You can go into a place, it's like a foundry. You can go into a place with your juice. You got a tanker full of it. And you say, I need to make 100,000 of the cartridges using your...you have the license for the cartridge and you can make them.

1:51:53 they make them for you and yet you pay the fee to have this stuff. Ah, okay. That would be just like white labeling a product. Yes. Okay. Sure. Sure. And so the little guy in the bathtub will still be able to stay in business, but he's going to have to up his game. And by the time this happens, yeah, he'll have the money to do that. I don't think this is going to change much of anything. Okay. Well, we'll see. Well, we'll see. Speaking of products, quick story. When I was in Dallas, for the meetup. On Sunday, my building decided Sunday is the day you can drag your Christmas tree down to the loading dock and they'll take it away, which is a handy service. But of course I wasn't there. So Tina graciously offered to do that with one of her daughters.

1:52:40 And so as they're dragging the tree, I love the didda, so dragging the tree, my neighbor Seth walks out of his apartment. Now you remember Seth is an emergency room doctor, ER doctor. And so they're chatting on the way, waiting for the elevator and said, oh, it's at least his birthday today. And he says, oh, whatever you do, do not ask for one of those hover boards as a present. He says it's the number one injury in the emergency room. Really? Oh, number one. This is not underreported. Number one injury. He says massive head trauma, broken bones, faces beaten to crap. No, that's not... This is not reported. No, it's only the blowing up is reported. Yeah, all we talk about is the fire. Yeah.

1:53:32 Well, I mean, I've seen reports showing a guy slipping off the thing, falling on his ass. Oh yeah, oh yeah. But he says that... But knowing that it's the number one... Currently, currently number one ER problem. Why is there local media there in Austin? And by the way... I don't know. So, so you're going to change the name of David Bowie? No, no, you got this all wrong. But go ahead, give, give your disinformation. I'll call the State Department. I believe, I believe that I have always suspected this from the early days of your meeting with various Obama bots. Here's the genesis of the story. Should I give that first? Yeah, you might as well. I tweeted a link to an article that says very specifically, but I noticed almost nobody read the article, just the headline. I did.

1:54:17 that, as we say, Bowie Street here in Austin, we say Bowie, has been changed to David Bowie Street by fans. And the city, of course it's vandalism, but the city said, we'll let you, we can keep it up until the 19th and it's coming down. But most people took this to be some kind of how Austin is great and we're honoring David Bowie, but we're not, it was just some fans. I think you misread it and you said, because your first response was, well, do they have an Elvis Presley boulevard? Do they have an honor? That's what I said. When he died, they might have. I believe that this is going to be made permanent by the city of Austin because Austin is filled with Satanists.

1:55:02 Now, I would just give you, one of the great churches of Satan is in Austin, and there's another one, Church of the Redeemer, in Austin, which has a very slick website. But the most positive proof that this is going on in Austin is that it is the Satan center of Satanism. Is the Satan's cheerleaders you can look them up there in Austin? I have all of your six six You don't have that you don't have this one. Oh look up Satan's cheerleaders squad 666 and find out where they are there in Austin. I'm telling you it's a dangerous place Okay Satan's cheerleaders calm John hail from Austin, Texas Wow

1:55:44 Hello, yeah, hello Satan that way have you seen this website? Oh, yeah, these girls look good Wow mm-hmm As you're going to meeting having these crazy meetings and every once in a while I've said this to you before I keep thinking they're there you're inviting you for threesomes Oh my god, it just keeps getting better, this Satanism. It's not for dinner so much as to kind of hint around about maybe doing a little swapping. Well, you brought up the Obots. There can be only one reason why this is happening. Austin, Texas is, of course, extremely liberal, an island of blue amidst a sea

1:56:27 of red and the Obots all congeal here and congregate and it is because... congeal... I like congeal. It is because of the subliminal programming that has been bestowed upon them for four... almost seven years now, seven years and I'm going to prove it by playing this backwards. This is the president's famous yes we can speech. the end of it and it says the girls could be coming out for the new year's here it comes thank you Satan thank you Satan

1:57:47 Yeah, I love it. I think it's proof positive. I don't know why people don't pay more attention to the subliminal. Since you brought up David Bowie, I need to tell you something kind of interesting about Patricia. First wife number one. First wife. Ex-wife number one. There we go. Who is, if anything, John, what is she? She is a promoter. to be admired by anyone involved with publicity. And I always hold the belief, I think I've mentioned on the show, that when you use the media for your own benefit, when you use the PR for your own benefit by whatever it is to get your PR, your message into the media, when you least expect it,

1:58:40 It comes back like a boomerang in 10 times force, then knocks you down. And this is exactly what happened to her. But what happened? So David Bowie dies. As with every country, every television station, they had a talk show and they brought in a whole bunch of people to talk about David Bowie. And they had five or six people. There's always like, you know, the DJ with the orange hair. You always got the guy who's writing for like the Dutch version of Rolling Stone magazine, who has, you know, like a cardigan and a pipe, you know, a bunch of douchebags who have never met David Bowie, never met David Bowie. The only person who's met David Bowie is Patricia.

1:59:19 And I think I've told the Bowie story, her Bowie story, haven't I? No, I have not heard Patricia Bowie's story. So when she was 20 and Bowie was 25, then I was minus two. I was not in existence, barely in existence. She did these song contests and she did one in Malta and David Jones, David Robert Jones at the time was performing before he changed his name to David Bowie. This is how long ago it is. And so she's asked about this story. She wrote it in her book and she tells a story that, you know, they hooked up and they smoked some weed and they, you know, had some sex and they were running around the beach of Malta and that he had some kind of loincloth outfit on that looked really funky, really strange. He had the shitty teeth.

2:00:04 And her punchline is, he kept playing this song on his guitar as we're walking on the beach and it's like, oh, can you stop with this annoying song already? And it was Space Oddity. So I think that's a funny story. The Dutch, and I'm talking the biggest newspapers, even the left-wing intellectual newspapers, everybody said, Patricia is a whore. She's a whore for telling the story. She's a horrible person. She's trying to pick off, you know, publicity from a dead guy, but literally, John, calling her a whore in the, a whore. And then even referring to David Bowie's, I think it's the second or third track on his new Blackstar album. She was a whore. Oh, Patricia would know this is her song. And, and I was flabbergasted. What caused the turn?

2:00:56 Well, I think it's severe dissatisfaction with people in general, but it was an opportunity. She messed it up. She never should have done that. She should have known better because, you know, David Bowie's not for everybody, you know, then she said, oh, well, I had sex with him. It wasn't a put down story by her. No. And you know what? If a guy had said, oh, I had sex with her, it would have been fine. No one would have said anything. But because it's a woman saying she had sex with a man, I'm defending her. Oh, because she said she had sex? Yes. And they just came, but it was columnists. It just, I texted her, I said...

2:01:32 damn, what's going on?" She said, yeah. Her response to me was, people are so unhappy here, particularly with the migrants and there's fighting and looting and crap and everyone's confused. So I was the easy target, which I think is probably true. And David Bowie, everyone feels that he belongs to them. But the way this whole country, the media, but also the commenters on these articles... Oh, the commenters are out of control. I can't believe this is misogyny. This is misogyny. And we have our own version of it here in America right now and I want to call people out on it. A modest announcement in the Times classified ads. Mr. Rupert Murdoch and Miss Jerry Hall are delighted to announce their engagement. Media mogul Murdoch, 84, set to wed the former supermodel, 25 years his junior. Now before I continue with the report,

2:02:25 Obviously, what happened is everybody, the first thing they say is, whore, gold digger, whore. You don't know Jerry Hall. But for people, and this is a Facebook thing, Facebook, the most liberal echo chamber in the universe have the audacity to call a 61 year old woman a whore and a gold digger. It's an old lady. It's a fourth marriage for him. And listen to this news report at the end. And a second for her. Though Hall's former husband, Mick Jagger, says the two were never legally hitched. The announcement confirms speculation sparked by their appearance together last year at the Rugby World Cup. No word from Hall on what drew her to the ageing billionaire, or if there's a prenup involved. Though Murdoch's six children are likely to be watching with interest. Murdoch aides say the relationship has given him a renewed vigour.

2:03:19 And as owner of the Times, he presumably got a discount on the announcement. Even in this report, no one knows what drew her to him. But people, check yourself. You can't be calling out Donald Trump as a misogynist when you're calling Jerry Hall a gold-digging whore. That is... I wish they had an Obot dinner so I could... You know it would be great to call him out on that. Yeah, you're totally correct. Just got me a little worked up. And I like to in fact, the guy's 85, she's 25, they make a big deal out of it. She's 61, she's 60 years old, 59, 60, 61. And they make a point out of her that she's the younger woman. Oh, he ran off with a younger woman. She's 60, he's 85. It's going to be almost impossible not to find a younger woman.

2:04:15 Yeah, but if she was 20, yeah, I could see maybe there'd be some complaint. It's the hypocrisy that just gets to me. Yeah, I know, I agree. But it's amusing. Well, it's definitely amusing. Before you start, John, I have a special request from one of our knights, Sir Eponymous. Which he requested this morning. I've been sick for a year and it took them that long to figure out what it was. Colorectal cancer. Ow. Yeah, right where I've... Let's see, right where you don't need it.

2:04:58 if you don't like wearing a bag for the rest of your life. He says he's 55. This is my Christmas present. Now shoveling in every natural concoction known to man, making sure I exercise every day no matter how tired I am and doing every color meditation healing exercise I can find. And today I'm waiting to get the call to see where my chemo radiation begins. Actually pretty positive about anything designed to shrink, kill the tumor. I want to avoid surgery if at all possible. The surgery is a day record. Yes, we know. I've been healthy all my life, but 50 to 55 have been Chinese cure interesting years for me. And he says I need to keep up those spin classes. And of course what he wants is an F cancer karma. We'd be glad if you could do that. Yeah, very important.

2:04:15 Yeah, but if she was 20, yeah, I could see maybe there'd be some complaint. It's the hypocrisy that just gets to me. Yeah, I know, I agree. But it's amusing. Well, it's definitely amusing. Before you start, John, I have a special request from one of our knights, Sir Eponymous. Which he requested this morning. I've been sick for a year and it took them that long to figure out what it was. Colorectal cancer. Ow. Yeah, right where I've... Let's see, right where you don't need it.

2:04:58 if you don't like wearing a bag for the rest of your life. He says he's 55. This is my Christmas present. Now shoveling in every natural concoction known to man, making sure I exercise every day no matter how tired I am and doing every color meditation healing exercise I can find. And today I'm waiting to get the call to see where my chemo radiation begins. Actually pretty positive about anything designed to shrink, kill the tumor. I want to avoid surgery if at all possible. The surgery is a day record. Yes, we know. I've been healthy all my life, but 50 to 55 have been Chinese cure interesting years for me. And he says I need to keep up those spin classes. And of course what he wants is an F cancer karma. We'd be glad if you could do that. Yeah, very important.

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2:07:27 You don't know this came right off the spreadsheet. Maybe he spelled it differently. I'll do it anyway. He got hit in the mouth by Chris Travis and another douchebag. You could see some no riot slash house selling. He could use some house selling karma for a house near Ferguson. He's been trying to sell. All right. Okay. We'll put that at the end. You bet. Ronald Smith in Fort Myers, Florida. 5150. Now the rest of these people are $50 donors and there's a short list of them. Eric Olson in Water Valley, Mississippi. Sammy Minkinan in Espoo, Finland. We love the Finns. John Haller in Missoula, Montana. Mike Westerfield, sir, Mike Westerfield in parts unknown. Patricia Worthington, I think it's Dame. I believe so. I think Dame Patricia. In Miami, Florida, Brandon Savoie in parts unknown. Yakub Wojciak in North Vancouver, BC.

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2:09:13 for all the states in the country. And Mimi's going to get this book because she's so politically active now. This would be great for her. Yeah, so this book is The National Survey of State Laws, the seventh edition. And it's a beautiful book. It's a hardcover. It's a big book. It could almost be a coffee table book inside. Every single law comparative by state, every single state. It's a great reference, a great reference. Page 347 about the minimum wage. This really helps understand laws, state laws, and how they differ from state to state. Yes. Very appreciative. I really love that. Okay, that was pretty shitty donations. Yeah. I really appreciate everybody who helps us and particularly people under, because there's always the people under $50 that does, you know, keep it going, but man, poor showing.

2:10:08 We can always become one of those techno expert websites. Yeah It's it's not a bad plan. I bet there's a lot of money in it. Well, we've got the chops I'm just thinking, I sent a note to Eric, there was another make good, which now I don't think he

2:10:56 I don't think he got it. He's got some problems with his mail. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a very... This is from... Well, this is... It's... It came out of Taylor's... Something for his kid. Alright. Sir Tyler Fox, we're gonna fix this for you. But we have some email problems, so just so you know. We'll get the appropriate thing. It's a long note and we gotta figure it out. Oh, sorry. We're working on it. We have no staff. We do have a staff, us. Yeah, that would be the staff. Not really a staff, I guess, technically. Agenda 2030 news, John. There's a new tactic, which I had to look into, I'd never heard of this before.

2:11:43 This is a protest that was held under a procedure I was not aware of. When five oil train protesters head to trial today those defendants known as the Delta Five received a blessing at Seattle's Woodland Park Presbyterian Church. The five were arrested back in September of 2014 for blocking the tracks at BNSF's rail yard in Everett. Members of the Delta Five will be allowed to argue in court that their actions were necessary because of the threat of climate change. This is a nationally significant trial. even globally significant, because it's the first time the necessity defense has been allowed and will be argued in an American court for climate civil disobedience. During their trial, the... So we have two terms here. Climate disobedience. Yes, it's climate disobedience. We have the necessity defense, and this is something from U.S. criminal law.

2:12:41 In US criminal law, necessity may be either a possible justification or an exculpation for breaking law. Defendants seeking to rely on this defense argue that they should not be held liable for their actions as a crime because their conduct was necessary to prevent some greater harm. And when that conduct is not excused under some more specific provision of law such as self-defense. So what you're saying is that because they stopped the train, climate change is over? No. I'm not saying anything. What they're saying is because trains with oil are killing the earth,

2:13:21 They have the right to be disobedient for necessity and duress to save the planet. And I agree with the guy. If a court says, oh yeah, all good, where does it end? It starts with the Climate Disobedience Center, that's for sure. This is a nice little place I found. ClimateDisobedience.com. A great little place where they help you out to be disobedient and not get convicted. Well, so if they're behind it and so all these laws are being broken because of these guys, wouldn't that be the same thing that the Southern Poverty Law Center used as leverage against a bunch of, I guess, supremacist groups and fascists because they were behind law breaking? Do you remember this case where Southern Poverty got to be so famous? No, no, no, no. They couldn't bust these guys.

2:14:18 They were protesting, doing all these different things, but they fought. It was almost like a borderline on a racketeering charge because they were the trace back from a crime scene, like a crime had happened and they trace back to these groups. The groups could be held liable. So if there's people breaking the laws, like standing in front of trains, just for whatever reason, and it traces back to this little operation, I think they could be liable and be run out of town. I don't know. It could be wrong. Well, I'm following this case now. It's very interesting. If a judge says, yeah, it's okay, you broke the law, but it was under necessity and duress, therefore no conviction. Almost everything is related to climate change, so you can do anything you want. Rob the store. Yeah. I think you need to have a little more solid case, John. But robbing a store, yeah, will probably come up. If you rob the store of things that are bad for the climate,

2:15:19 Like well go steal some Volkswagens They're very bad for the climate. They lied. We know those guys are all bad. Go ahead and steal some or disable them, you know, slash the tires. That may be possible. It may be possible. Well, it depends on how this case goes. I've been looking at a little international news and I got some interesting stuff going on. Catalonia, for one, is borderline... Clip of the day. I mean, they're really getting more serious than these other groups of Spain to split off. And Catalonia's new fiercely secessionist president, Carles Puigdemont, has taken office with a clear mandate to lead the wealthy Spanish region towards independence from Madrid. Now he carefully avoided swearing loyalty to Spain as he was inaugurated, although he did swear allegiance to the Catalan people. He was elected at the weekend after months of infighting amongst the members of the pro-independence parliament.

2:16:22 And then the other interesting thing that people need to be aware of is what's going on in Poland. Now, Poland is getting a little...there's a back and forth going on between Poland and the EU because the EU, the Polish put in charge a bunch of right...not right-wingers. I mean, they're right-wingers probably no more so than the Ukrainians. Which are right-wingers, but they but this is not going fitting in with the with the EU's? Things the EU's we're all one nation Yeah, we're all one nation, but so you can't really have a democracy within the EU apparently the Polacks are being reprimanded You just say Polacks Yeah, the Polacks. I'm Polish I can say that oh Since I know you can I call you a Polack

2:17:10 Again if you want okay cool and Poland is accused the European Commission of attempting to pressure what it's called It's democratically elected right-wing government Europe has escalated warnings after the government's legal maneuvers to gain control over the country's top court and public broadcasters The Commission will debate the state of the rule of law in Poland later today, which could lead to punitive measures Seems about time Angela Merkel, you know invaded them This just sounds wrong. Of course, it's falling apart, John. It is falling apart. I'm going to look into the Polish thing a little more because it seems as if... Well, we have... They're not the only ones doing this. I think all these Eastern European countries, which have a clue. I mean, they joined... This whole thing is falling apart. I don't know when it's going to completely fall apart, but this isn't... It's falling apart very, very quickly.

2:18:07 And it's because the people just don't want to, they will not take it anymore. And it's interesting that, you know, we reported on, I think we reported correctly on the New Year's Eve harassment and groping and potential rape. That was, you know, a genre provocateur's riling some drunk immigrants to do stuff. But they do have the rape game. There's a lot of evidence. And, you know, I get grief. People are like, I can't believe you believe the stories. You know, that didn't happen. Now, listen, look, I have friends in these countries and they give me the same report.

2:18:48 And particularly the fighting at these at the migration centers. Let's stop for a second. They're throwing the food away. How can there not be fighting? You have hundreds of thousands of many men Bumping into each other in a miserable trip a miserable walk. How can there not be fighting? It's so bad that Canada who are all come on in Syrian refugees They don't accept single men coming in you can't come into Canada as a refugee And get that you're gonna be turned away single guys. Sorry no Families or women with children yes, because it's it's a fact and I've seen it that Christina come arrives tomorrow and

2:19:37 Good for you. Yeah, I'm gonna have to chain her can't go back girl. Sorry She's going back. Sorry. Sorry like it or not Now now another thing going on we had a bomb bombing and some action in Turkey Turkey And so I'm digging around looking for it because we know that Turkey's big supporters of Isis and there they have an infrastructure within Turkey that allows the transport of the fighters and munitions, everyone assumes. Well, this is actually discussed because it seems as if the Turks, this most recent event that took place, which was a bombing. Which killed mainly German tourists. Yes, it killed tourists. I haven't found a good analysis until this analysis. I think this analysis is the best that just takes it right to the core of the matter and tells us what the hell's going on. This is it right here. The Middle East program at the Woodrow Wilson Center for Scholars in Washington. Henry Barclay.

2:20:37 This is not the first attack by the Islamic State in Turkey. They did three attacks between June and October, mostly targeting Kurds, first in Diyarbakir, then another town called Suruc, and then Ankara, that killed 135 people, almost as many people that died in Paris attacks. This one is different in that it attacked kind of the soft underbelly of Turkey, i.e. its tourism sector. And by attacking Germans, they essentially attack both the West and also Turkey. And I suspect that this is probably a way for ISIS to tell the Turks,

2:21:18 not to go after them. Here's a problem for Turkey. There's a very, very large ISIS infrastructure in Turkey that has developed over the last three to four years. This infrastructure helps ISIS get foreign fighters into Syria. It helps get arms. It gets money. There's a whole support infrastructure in the border towns of Turkey helping ISIS. So the Turkish government recently has decided to go after this infrastructure and start to take it down. And it may just be that ISIS is sending a message saying, don't continue with this because if you do, we can really hurt you in your really very important sector, which is tourism. I thought that nailed it. All right.

2:22:13 Explain? Well, apparently ISIS four years ago, as you said, had set up shop. The Turks were fine with it because Erdogan is like a radical Islamist for all practical purposes. So they set up shop and then they put the system in there and this the other guy, the Prime Minister, who's getting, they're getting a little annoyed by this because everyone's pointing the finger at Turkey as being part of the problem, being all in with ISIS and they're not really helping anything. So these guys, so they do a little gratuitous, well let me, let's try to take down this system or that system. The ISIS guy says, hey,

2:22:49 Hey, we've been here. What are you doing? Yeah, I guess now we got a move. We got to shut this down We got to shut that down. So they blow up a bunch of tourists and say you want to keep doing this or what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So where do you think Erdogan goes with this now? Well, is that you haven't heard everyone at all about this? It was it's been everything about this most recent event has been discussed by the real power of Turkey the Prime Minister and Erdogan is the figurehead that's managing to accumulate power, kind of like Hitler, need to say that. And so he hasn't said anything. I don't know what he's going to do. I know what they're going to do. They're going to have to just back off and let the ISIS guys take over the place. That's the only thing I think they'll work. Otherwise, you're going to see a lot more bombings. Yeah. That, I think, is what we have in store.

2:23:36 And half the bombings will be not even by ISIS themselves, just people who want to change agendas. We're going to see that here in the United States. We'll see it all over the EU. I think we predicted clearly, you know, if it's not climate change, you can blame everything on ISIS. Everything! Because they're here. You can't see them, but they're here. They're secretive and they're around. Just blame everything on ISIS. This is our future. This is our future. Now I heard you and Horowitz I have to apologize, but I was listening to it late last night as I got into bed and I fell asleep, but you were talking about something that you've been keeping your eye on the Baltic Dry Index. Yeah. And I have now multiple stories showing that there really aren't a lot of ships crossing the Atlantic Ocean right now. Like very, very few. The Atlantic or the Pacific? That's a good question. I thought it was. Let me check. I'm pretty sure it was the Atlantic.

2:24:43 Do you want to just fill us in in general? The Baltic Dry Index is an old measurement that doesn't really...is not taken as seriously as it once used to. I brought it up on the show a few years ago and I was poo-pooed as something you shouldn't really be too concerned about anymore because the way shipping has changed. And most of the action being from China to the West Coast and then China and around through the Panama Canal and China from here to there and China on trains headed west from there. But apparently it's still important enough in some funny way that it's a bad thing that it's gone down, fallen down to the point where it's really cheap to ship stuff. The index seems to me to be more about price.

2:25:40 than anything else. And when there's a lot of empty boats sitting around looking for cargo, they make these deals and you can ship a container, I think now, for about a fourth the price or less than you used to be able to from anywhere. And is that because of demand being down? Yeah. Yeah, everything's slowed down. It's a big slowdown that we're witnessing. It all happened at once. It's part of the Chinese numbers. You know, this is actually...we talked about this on the show if you want to... Six months ago, we started noticing that the numbers coming out of China were hinky. And Fort Worth is preoccupied with this, which is that these numbers, the Chinese are producing numbers that don't make sense.

2:26:27 They're liars, I tell you. They're liars. That's the...summarize. They're liars. And they could always figure there's something...the Chinese are also somewhat optimistic, I believe. I think they lie with it in mind that, oh, this will...don't worry, it'll work itself out. You know, just, you know, this is like the joke. This reminds me of the...I think it kind of epitomizes the Chinese's joke. which is they're optimistic. A guy goes into the doctor and his pecker's green. And the doctor looks at it and goes, oh my God, this has to be chopped off immediately. So that doesn't sound good. I got to get a second opinion. He goes to a second... I'd say maybe a third.

2:27:11 It goes to a bunch of doctors and they say, oh no, no, no, no, no. This has got to be removed. It's got to go. So he says, I'm going to a Chinese doctor. So he goes to a Chinese doctor and the Chinese doctor says, oh, what did they tell you? Oh yeah, yeah, Western doctors, all they want to do is cut, cut, cut. Just let it sit for a couple of weeks. It'll fall off. This is kind of...this epitomizes, to me, the kind of awkward positive attitude that the Chinese have about things. They work themselves out. So they lie about these... Because they think it'll work out. They figure, well, you know, they were...and they also think their government can fix everything by edict. This is the one...they're a capitalist system that has been a hybrid

2:28:00 It's a hybrid system, it's different than ours. Hybrid? Hybrid? Hybrid. You know, it's a combination of communism and capitalism and it works very well. Except it doesn't work all the time well and when it doesn't work They don't know that they can't let it just do its own thing like capitalist systems have to do they have to metal and when you metal you mess it up you make it worse you ruin the mechanism and that's what they're doing and this is a This is huge. It's a big disaster waiting to happen and you want to give us a time frame Well, they're pretty good. I think this is recoverable, at least where they can make some adjustments and they can fake it. You can fake left and fake right. They can do a lot of fast... They can try to... It's like the Dutch dam. You've got a bunch of holes in it. You've got to put your finger in the hole. Yeah, put your finger in the dike. Yeah, put your finger in the dike.

2:28:57 And they can do that for a while. Again, it's just right into my cycle. So 2017, the whole thing's going to fall apart for a while. Yeah. This just in Turkish ground forces pounded Islamic State jihadists in Iraq and Syria after a suicide attack blamed on extremists. The intense shelling of some 500 Islamic State positions on the Syrian border with Turkey and northern Iraq. is in just a 48 hour period following the attack. So there's something going on. Counterattacks. Well, that'll be on the next show. Oh yeah. Got some, just the last bit for here, the interesting analysis on the executive action that the president took regarding guns. As we know, this is about anybody able to, you know, certain entities, but pretty much anybody able to report you as a nut job,

2:29:54 And Judge Andrew Napolitano, who used to have his own show on Fox and got kicked off. Too libertarian. Yeah. And he's lost so much weight. He looks so good. Yeah, he doesn't look good. Here is... He did an analysis of the executive action and two clips, one extremely surprising. Here's the first one that really explains what can happen with the crazy factor. There is no other way to read this but that the president plans to use federal agents to do something about the presence of a gun in the house of someone who is unwell.

2:30:34 even if the person who lawfully owns that gun is not the person who is unwell. I will tell you judge do you remember we were at Fox together at the same time when when Obamacare happened and I said you watch This is Glenn Beck actually, sorry. Because I don't remember what it was now, but there's something in Obamacare that we zeroed in on and we said this is the door that is opening to have the doctors tell the government about your guns if there's anybody unwell in the house. And people mocked us. The president mocked us. Yes, I remember exactly what it was. I remember exactly what it was. It was the federal distribution of 40,000

2:31:17 laptops to internists, to general practitioners who were required to put into digital form the records that they have with their patient and to give access to the laptops to the Department of Health and Human Services. And we were mocked about it. Well, guess what? Here it is coming. The chickens are coming home to roost and it will happen in the next year. That sounds cool. Yeah, that's a nice little overlap. Although I believe the judge misspoke. I don't think it was 40,000 laptops. I think it was $40,000 or something. But the idea is the same that there was a setup for the crazy meme and that got implemented with the executive action. Now something about executive action that I didn't know

2:32:01 But I thought executive action really didn't mean all that much. It was just like, yeah, I'm doing something, here's what I'm doing. And the president published his executive action. But there is a legal difference, an important legal difference between executive action and executive order. Did you know any of this, John, about the real... I know there's a difference because you talked about it before. And I always say, hey, an executive order is not the same thing. Well, you said that, but anyway, Judge Napolitano explains. The president keeps referring to this as executive action rather than an executive order. Executive action is when he tells someone in the executive branch to do something and he either doesn't tell them in writing or he keeps the writing secret.

2:32:44 That will make it even more difficult and cumbersome to challenge. When he did the immigration shenanigans, he put everything in executive orders. We all saw it. We all analyzed it. Then Attorney General, now Governor Greg Abbott saw it. His team of lawyers analyzed it, challenged it, and they won. They had a writing to challenge. That's interesting. Oh, I did not know that that's how executive actions work. So they're like, they're like an executive order, except you don't really publish everything. You say, I'm going to take some action in this area. Then you tell the people what to do, but you tell them verbally, you tell your stooges what to do, your stooges, what to do. You tell them verbally where you keep the document secret, which you don't have to release unless there's a FOIA, but okay. Good luck with that. Yeah. Five years from now, you'll see it. Yeah. Um, so this is,

2:33:47 Very concerning hmm. Well. This is a lot. Yeah, that's what he's He's protesting well you were not trying to take guns away I think still the logic of well if you want to take guns off the street you want to lessen the amount of guns out there Well, are you gonna? What are you gonna? Do they're gonna just disappear you have to take them away. It's take them away from people That's the Occam's razor this if you're going to have less guns they have to go somewhere and I think the first clip the judge Where he said, oh, you know, even if you are a completely healthy person and a gun owner, if there's someone in your home like your kid who's on Adderall or Vyvanse, you know, your guns will be covered. Every kid in the country. Unfortunately. God, that's a shit. Yeah, it's a pretty interesting little trick.

2:34:30 I'm not gonna get away with it. Oh Good news from the tech news. We don't have to do a tech news Segment, but some good news for you, and I John is old-school guys. Yeah. Yeah from DARPA no less remember those guys DARPA Yeah, DARPA who created the Internet's DARPA DARPA is bringing back the vacuum tube Before you go on So I'm up in Port Angeles floating around and all the banks out there, and I think this is true in most of the country, around here I don't see it, but in most of the country they have vacuum tubes at the drive-thru banking. Well, that's a different kind of vacuum tube.

2:35:10 We're talking about two different things, my brother. Like the transistor progenitor. No, like the cathode anode. Yes. What I said. Yeah. Transistor progenitor. Progenitor. Yes. Before the predecessor. Transistor was a vacuum. Oh, it's not the vacuum tube. I was hoping they would... We were thinking about this. Apparently, New York City, for example, has vacuum tubes... Tower of Babel. ...underneath the city. There's just like millions of them, and they're still active. You know what you should do if you roll up to a bank, and our Chase Bank still has vacuum tubes at the drive-thru. I think that's pretty much... every bank has that. Put a gerbil in that thing.

2:35:53 See what happens. I'm sorry. I've misunderstood. I feel like an idiot and I and I want to thank Bobby a Winski for his inner circle music production podcast This is where we pick this up DARPA is bringing back the vacuum tube And there's a couple of really good reasons for it. The first is can you guess? I would assume EMP is probably affected differently. Yes, sir. The vacuum tube can actually do things that solid-state electronics cannot, especially when it comes to high-frequency, high-powered electronics. And this is mostly the realm that we're talking about, the 75 gigahertz range, way, way, way, way above hearing.

2:36:35 Anytime you need high power at that particular frequency or frequency range, what ends up happening is any kind of solid-state electronics just fries. So the best thing is to bring the vacuum tube out of semi-retirement. The vacuum tube has actually been around and if you own a microwave, there's a vacuum tube in it. And also if you fly in a plane, most of the aviation radar still uses vacuum tubes and we still see it in some radio transmitters as well. So the vacuum tube isn't gone completely. There's another interesting side effect from using vacuum tubes and that's the fact that they're not affected by EMP. EMP is electromagnetic pulse. An EMP is this pulse that's generated when a nuclear device is set off.

2:37:22 And what it does is it fries solid-state electronics. Guess what? Vacuum tubes are immune to that. I'm in the market now for a Collins set. Collins from the 50s. Yeah, oh they're still great. Oh, the Collins set. They're beautiful. It's hard to find a good one cheap. That's because people don't sell them. Yeah, I'll even take a Heath kit if you got one. Well, you know, up at Leo's place. Yeah. Somebody gave him like a whole rig and he has a huge vacuum tube transmitter. What a waste. Yeah, I know it just sits there but they did turn it on for me once and the thing has got these big giant tubes and they glow and they look like they want to kick some butt. It's beautiful of course. But I think you could probably pick up a rig from an old radio station. Uh, eBay. eBay's got stuff, you know. I'm just logging up on eBay. But I'm definitely in the market. Definitely in the market for one.

2:38:21 Yeah, you might as well be just that freaky. What do you say Johnny boy? Should we? Verde cage. That's the way to go. Should we wind it up? Yeah, I think so. I think we're done. I think we've done well. We've certainly delivered more value than received for today, but that's okay. Yeah, we do that all the time. It happens from time to time. Generally speaking, that's our MO. Yeah, it is. So please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for Sunday show will be back. We'll do more the tonight. There's another Republican debate I guess or something. Yes, but we'll look at that Why are they doing this is stupid? They don't talk about anything that ratings are gonna go down cuz nobody cares. No

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