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00:00 You're a boasting. Yeah, you're a boasting A-hole yeah Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday October 22nd 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 767 This is no agenda Taking full responsibility for the rain stick. Sorry, not sorry and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state in FEMA region 6 Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i can say you heard what he said I'm John C. Dvorak As in you didn't understand what I said? No, it's as in as in. I'm take full responsibility for the rain. I do and we were shaking it and finally last night rain came Shaking and baking And the difference is remarkable It sounds like your sick as a dog! I am so sick man.

00:56 Almost since Sunday pretty much all the time Why why do you laugh about my? Difference is remarkable. Yeah, I sound like crap now everybody congratulations No man has been so bad Well, explain this. What happened? The rain came... No the rain came last night. It's coming very hard too Yeah well we shook it a lot so sorry not sorry I needed that rain And the rain wiped out the pollens and goo But that started last night Oh I see it wasn't time to save you No no no I am coughing I'm completely blocked congested Thank you all for your thousands of helpful tips

01:44 A lot of interesting things people recommend. Yes, like what? Oh you know eat local honey I've heard that one before oh yeah well that's true but that's for allergies and the problem with the honey theory and by the way that honey thing People swear by it. My wife does she's allergic to acacia, and if she eats local Acacia honey doesn't even German acacia honey She her allergies go almost down to nothing doesn't work for me The problem is it's not gonna work with you because there's no such thing as mold honey I know hey dear would you like some mold honey? You know, people recommending all kinds of shots. Yeah no I'm not gonna go and get an injection. No the shots are no good. You know what helped a lot actually was Aleve strangely enough. Aleve? Yeah it did help out man it's just been so bad John Well you're okay now. It'll be better because the rains came If the rain... yeah I'll get better now Holy crap! I saw my next door neighbor in the hallway

02:47 Said hey, just how you doing. This is not how man I feel horrible says oh yeah? I'm all jacked up on On allergy meds. I don't really know what I'm doing People just floating around stoned on allergy meds. Yeah screw that man screw it hate it It's a short-lived phenomenon and it is actually quite amusing. I think it has helped the show. Except that this has been going on for three weeks now, this is the third week. We would have had some rain by now. Yeah well thank goodness! And we're here and while we are doing the show of course the Biganzi hearing is taking place on The Hill so... Well it will be available to us on the C-SPAN website. Oh yeah its gonna be hours and hours I'm sure of it

03:35 Yeah, I do actually have a little background on it. We can play just to catch up so we know what's going to... Good idea. ...we're probably talking about in the next show this is the Benghazi rundown. Rundown or preview? Preview sorry It was not a premeditated response to what had transpired in Cairo But Republicans charged that The White House knew almost immediately Benghazi was a terror attack and concealed it to protect President Obama's re-election campaign The administration insisted Ambassador Rice was speaking from the best information available at the time. Four months later, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took on Senate Republicans at a hearing. The fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job

04:23 to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. The incident launched parallel investigations by the FBI, the State Department and Congress to do just that One was by an independent accountability review board appointed by Secretary Clinton and headed by retired former Ambassador Thomas Pickering That December it issued a stinging report on what happened that night And it called the consulate's security posture inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack. And they told him to shut up. And we have not heard from any of those people, have we? I wonder myself this whole thing could be a giant scam. It was deficient in security supplies it was probably deficient in the security manning of the post

05:24 There were ongoing security problems in Benghazi, which we felt should have alerted the department to deal with those issues. Many of the questions presented to the department were answered in the negative when they probably should have been positively responded to. There were requests for additional security there, and they were denied? There was an ongoing request for additional security. And a number of them were not responded to properly and positively, yes. I love that the language that guy uses. He says they were not responded to positively.

06:02 He's a bureaucrat. Exactly! The Pickering Review cited quote systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at the State Department, a consulate that was severely under-resourced with regard to certain needed security equipment and a short-term staff rotation that resulted in diminished institutional knowledge, continuity and mission capacity. Pickering said the review board closely examined whether the U.S. military could have scrambled forces elsewhere to the attack site. And it was very clear to us that the nearest assistance was called upon right away but the requirement to mobilize aircraft and move those Marines in Spain

06:46 was not sufficient to get it there in time. Three State Department officials resigned immediately after the report, the report did not fault Secretary Clinton. You know it takes so long to get around to doing another one of these full-on hearings There's so much that we've forgotten You know and so much that has been swept under the rug. Where why doesn't anyone ever bring up the reports about? The ambassador being sodomized with a broom handle, you know dragged through the streets Well that won't come up in the conversation at all but it is factually correct well seem so yeah Yeah this will just be one big waste of time a shit show for six hours watching nothing but lies

07:31 Well, they'll be making some shots. You know, Trey Gowdy will come up and ask some poignant question then one of the Democrats have apologists you know just trying to make sure Hillary gets into office. Trey Gowdy. The Cummins are one of these guys. Trey Gowdy was raked over the coals Oh yeah now they're targeting him Here's James Carville he's a Clinton operative Yes We call that a Democrat consultant, but he's a Clinton operative and he knows exactly who is behind all this Benghazi stuff. Trey Gowdy is the creation of the Koch brothers in the whole climate denial industry and this committee was nothing but a creation of Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers. You know Fox ran over 1,000 segments in 20 months after this thing This is a taxpayer funded understand taxpayer funded partisan operation that they're running there

08:23 all they're interested in is driving her poll numbers down. They've admitted as much, it's just a fact and he got into Congress because the Koch brothers put him there. Yeah! Well I don't have that... You can fact check it. They can fact check it. I'm right here. Go go everybody fact check it. about the connection between them. I'm fine with that. You know, all was a result of pressure from Blupin Murdoch and the Koch brothers to know where Trey Gowdy comes from All of this stuff is in public record there's no doubt about it. We will follow up James and Congressman Gowdy is welcome to come on and respond. Ask him how much money the Koch brother gave him when he ran

09:08 Yeah, facts. Nothing but facts! Of course you never talk about where Hillary's campaign donations come from... Saudis. Yeah, Saudis. Facts. Saudis They're not gonna invite him back if he is that obnoxious No. No. Ummm....hmmm Well the biggest news There's a lot. There is a lot, but I think Pierre...Pierre? Justin Trudeau. Ah from Canada...Candanavia! Yeah we have to cover this because we have a large Canadian audience and they wonder what we think This is an interesting guy for sure

09:48 Well, a male... kind of a male hunk. Yeah he's good-looking guy for sure He also likes to take his shirt off and boxed in the ring with some other political guy and beat the crap out of him apparently But he is just another part of a dynasty which is you know what we... Worldwide problem Yeah worldwide problem The Dynasty Why would you? Was he really the best guy for the job Well, that's not the way Canadian works. Oh sorry it's not the best guy for the job That's the way it works in our place yeah sure It works great here The way the Canadian system works if you're not familiar with I am not listening I'm interested is they have various parties that come and go some of them disappear some Come out of the blue And they have an election every year for all the different people that are gonna be there ministers and the party that gets the most votes

10:39 is the majority party, and if they get enough votes then they can take over the place. They don't have to have a coalition with anyone which is very similar to England and it's...it isn't very similar in this way too. The leader of that party who has had to get himself to the position of leadership of that party just coincidentally gets to be prime minister. That's kind of how a parliamentary system works And so that's what happened with this guy because he were wormed his way into the lead because he's a good, well he's a good looking guy and there is a lot of...the whole Well, let's play—let's play a couple of rundowns for people in the international audience or even Americans, for that matter, that don't know quite what happened. I have two rundowns. I have one on Democracy Now!, which is probably superior to the NBC News. So let's play the rundown on Democracy Now! My full cooperation during the process of transition in the coming days A recent headline in The Guardian dubbed Harper, quote, "'the last remnant' of George W Bush and North America."

11:44 Under Stephen Harper, Canada became the only country to withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol—the international agreement setting reduction targets on carbon emissions. Harper slashed the funding of Environmental Canada and scores of environmental programs. OK, stop, stop, stop, stop. Federal scientists were barred from speaking publicly about their findings. That rundown is too much running down, Harper! Let's play the Trudeau rundown at NBC, which is actually the story. The U.S. presidential campaign of course has been underway for months and still has more than a year to go but Canada has just chosen a new leader in a campaign that lasted a mere 11 weeks and that's long for them. The winner in an upset his 43-year old Justin Trudeau, a relative newcomer to politics but one with a legendary name many promises some big changes. NBC's Gabe Gutierrez has this story

12:35 I have a simple message for you. On behalf of 35 million Canadians, we're back! Justin Trudeau is Canada's future and its past. The son of Pierre and Margaret Trudeau, the charismatic former Prime Minister and his former flower child bride. Canada's glamorous power couple in the 70s and 80s. Justin grew up in that spotlight... ...and last night claimed it for himself. His Liberal Party winning a stunning upset. It's time for a change in this country my friends! A real change!

13:11 Trudeau is 43, married to a former television host and model. He got into politics just eight years ago after trying his hand as a snowboard instructor, a nightclub bouncer and high school teacher. His critics called his resume thin. Being prime minister is not an entry level job But Trudeau insisted he was ready and the voters agreed sending conservative incumbent Stephen Harper packing. The people are never wrong. Trudeau promises to cut taxes, spend billions to boost the economy act against climate change legalize marijuana and lead the US led air campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria

13:52 Why should Americans care about Canadian politics? We now have a Canadian government that is politically more in line with the American government. Does that mean better relations? Relations have always been good, but they've actually not been so great of late. Will they now get better? That's why Americans should care You know, there's a lot of speculation about Justin Trudeau on the alternative sites. I would be surprised. Yeah but headlines such as is Justin Trudeau a product of mind control? Of course he was educated at the London School of Economics which is creepy and buncha creeps there

14:40 Well, he has...they tried to go after him at the very end because they were starting to win. Because the NDP was actually ahead in the beginning, New Democratic Party which was the most liberal and I would just bring this up because if you go to ndp dot org or no, no, ndp dot ca. Okay And then let's see what is this guy? There we go What are you looking for? Tom Mulcair? Yeah, Tom. Dude slash Tom. You sure it's not Thom? No it's Thom as a T. Thom is no t-o. Oh, Tom Story okay. Okay now go down a few photos and he has a very... I think this guy..I watched him give a speech and

15:31 I think there's a lot of gayness at the top of Canadian politics. And this guy in particular... Well, they're descendants of Britain! Hello? He's all gay guys. This guy in particular is ex- Here's his speech. He doesn't have the lisp that Joe has. That is required. But he has this you have to imagine this guy speaking He's got that full beard if you look at that second photo down where he's got that precious. Look on his face Yeah, he he purses his lips. He tilts his head yeah, he has all the earmarks of a guy who is Mind-controlled be out of the or out of the closet one of them. Oh yeah, but play

16:13 It says, Kabata Tom Mulcair. This is his little speech. We will be unwavering in our pursuit of better health care for Canadians we will stand strong in our fight against climate change and to protect our land air and water And we will be resolute in our efforts to build a true nation-to-nation relationship with First Nations Inuit and Métis peoples Someone actually went, woohoo! Did you hear that? An actual woohoo getting it started. Yeah crank it up! Woohoo! People. It's on these priorities and on many more that New Democrats will make real and lasting progress in this new Parliament With this election Canadians have asked us all to work for them

17:02 We will not let them down. Have you received any feedback from our Candian avian? Producers out there what their feeling is on the guy Who dodo yeah? Everybody they don't like anybody the Canadians are just you know they don't like people But they especially foreigners Harper there's such an extreme anybody Yeah, it's fine because Harper was just finally they got everyone got fed up with a guy cuz he's a douche now did I understand that Trudeau said he was going to cut Canada's participation in the joint strike fighter? Oh no, he is out. Yeah He is pulling out of the ISIS battle That's not very friendly Well he just doesn't think that things were... I have no idea what he was thinking but he wants out It's the right thing to do because it's bull crap

17:56 He's out. The Canadians haven't been in the kind of in bed with us and wars necessarily, including the first Iraq war I believe anyway let's go back to how this guy got in this guy is a pretty boy The Canadians want to imply that he's gay, but this is the liberals. Not the liberals but the conservatives who wanna imply that he's gay because they made a big point of him being a drama teacher and This was brought up in some of the ads Oh He's a drama teacher And if you listen to him talk play this play the Trudeau lisping thank-you speech my friends we beat fear

18:36 with hope. We beat cynicism with hard work. Do you really want to do this because now I'm gonna be talking like this the whole show? Negative divisive politics with a positive vision that brings Canadians together Most of all, we defeated the idea that Canadians should be satisfied with less. That good enough is good enough and that better just isn't possible Well my friends this is Canada and in Canada we lift better

19:17 is always possible. Thank you! and she's quite attractive, and he's got three kids. But he still has this horrible Sylvester the Cat sound that is just completely out of control, which is actually quite funny! One thing Harper managed to do up in Canada was get rid of this hour-and-22 minutes for his famous show

19:57 And marginalize it so it's not important anymore. They got to bring that show back just to have somebody do this guy's voice because It's very funny here the political satire yeah, now he whether he's gay or not I don't know Or by three kids do Canadians care? Apparently, the Conservatives do. Yes and the religious do so a lot of Canadians do care but they don't care so much that they rather have him in there than Harper right and he's not you know flaunting it except for the fact he can say politics politics I Don't know it's hard to say I mean is definitely a rank amateur but there was a couple of good

20:37 kind of discussions about him on Democracy Now. And I think the one to play, which I have here is one on First Nate... Actually let's play this one. He was all in on this law up in Canada which we don't talk about down here but- Oh the C51? The C51 Patriot Act. Yeah it's crazy! OK. During a debate in August, Justin Trudeau expressed support for the controversial anti-terrorism act of 2015 known as the C-51 surveillance law—it's called Canada's Patriot Act. The government of Canada and the Prime Minister is expected to do two things by Canadians. The first one is to keep us safe, the second is to uphold and defend our rights and freedoms Now Mr Harper doesn't think we need to do anything more to protect our rights and freedoms And Mr Mulcair with his position on counter-terrorism laws doesn't think we need to do anything more on security. The Liberal Party has been very clear We need to do both of them together

21:36 That's Justin Trudeau in a debate in August. Pamela Palmiter, talk about the C-51 Surveillance Act. One of the biggest criticisms of the Liberal Party when Justin Trudeau was running was his support for Bill C-51. And some of the people that were running for the Liberal Party were viciously defensive of Bill C-51, whereas other liberal candidates were saying, look, once we get in, we're going to make amendments to make sure democratic rights and freedoms are protected, to make sure that First Nations aren't particularly targeted. So it's going to depend

22:13 where he goes from here with this legislation. So if he just supports the legislation as is, which is a clear violation of our constitution—the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that his father brought in—all First Nation Aboriginal treaty rights and international human rights… I mean it's really the most offensive legislation Canada has ever enacted in this country. If he does something about it then I think he could really build some goodwill that he's committed to protecting democratic rights and freedoms, as well as First Nation rights. And if I could just add to that—he voted for it in Parliament. It is a law now. Yeah. So it wasn't something just discussed in the election. The Liberals supported it in Parliament. They tried to amend it but of course the Conservatives had a majority.

23:01 And this is very concerning, because there's nothing in Bill C-51 that's needed to protect Canada's security. The only reason they voted for it was because at the time it was very popular and then groups like Open Democracy— democracy, campaigned against it—lots of groups campaigned against it. And public opinion shifted. So by the beginning of the election campaign, it was no longer popular, but the liberals had already voted for it. So this is what I mean about what—you know, what the concern is about the liberals, is they're willing to do anything—not anything—they're willing to move and shift to do what's

23:37 popular, but when push comes to shove they're still a corporate party. They're a party that's mostly supported by corporations financially or have been in the past and you know they have a bad history now maybe Trudeau can change that and I'm with Pam I'd like to be hopeful it's kind of hard when you know that history and C-51 is a good example of it right? That's exactly what you want to do You want to bring a cool guy in who promise all kinds of things that he'll fix and change but he won't No, he won't. He's not going to do that. Does he have to go kiss the Queen's ring soon? I mean if you're... doesn't have to go and get his approval or... Oh, you mean the queen of England Yes. I presume that has to happen Yeah there is some process Well yeah! I think he has to go and say howdy

24:29 Yeah. Hey, howdy Queen! Howdy Queen There was a woman there on Democracy Now that was from the representative of indigenous people of Canada and we have to know that the Canadians relationship with their Indians Their tribes it was a lot different than ours for one thing the Indians in Canada or natives, or native peoples are first persons. What do you want to call them? First peoples I think. First persons. First peeps. OG Peepz were really a tough group. It's not as though the Apaches were slouches but these guys... And they were funded by the British and there tend to be tough to this day and there has always been this bit of war between

25:18 country of Canada and they're Indians, they're indigenous people constantly. Well the Canadians didn't do it right? They didn't kill him like we did! Yeah you didn't... You gotta get rid of the problem early on. I think they tried to be honest about it but the Canadians can write it. We'll get a number of letters from our Canadian producers who will give us some better information yeah but let's play this little breakdown this was a woman who represented a lot of the indigenous and she was discussing this is true no first nations right first nations that all p well i think you know for most first nations as a collective sigh of relief that harper's god i mean like he said he's been the worst environmental disaster democratic-right disaster and he would be

26:03 know, epic enemy of First Nations. And so what you have with Prime Minister Trudeau is the possibility for change. He really has an opportunity to be a leader in First Nation issues and environmental issues and democratic rights and freedoms versus a politician. So he has the opportunity—we have to give him a little time to see if he's going to do it. However, he does come from a very problematic liberal legacy. His father was the one who introduced the 1969 white paper which would have essentially— Was racist clearly. Annihilated Indians and reserves and treaty rights and all of that which was brought about massive national protests by First Nation leaders.

26:53 I mean, but to his credit he's distanced himself from his father's policy and he is saying that he wants to do it differently. A nation-to-nation relationship which is key for First Nations because First Nation consider themselves to be sovereign with their own laws and jurisdictions so... You know? His dad Pierre dated Barbara Streisand Yeah! He was a real bon vivant And Margot Kidder Huh. Imagine growing up... His wife is better looking than either two of them. Imagine growing up and Barbra Streisand walking around in the house? I think that was before he was born, oh, I could be wrong maybe not. Bummer. But you have to imagine Trudeau had this anti-Native people First Nations policy that was very popular

27:50 Well, it was popular until then there was an uprising. And I remember this vaguely when I was a kid that these Indians were burning up the place...they were creating havoc in Canada and all the Canadians had to back off. So you think that we'll see a repeat? You think that they're coming home to roost? Well here's the thing is he was brought up at a dinner table where there was probably a lot of grousing going on. Yeah! And I would think that he says well it's not me. I think that it might be even Well, it's possible that he you know got around this and he wants to make make amends I don't know all I know is that this is He's either gonna do absolutely nothing Which is what? I would guess because that's what they always do they talk a big game And then nothing happens. You know take that to the bank mm-hmm which is probably the smartest thing to do because you can't really you know you just keep putting it off and putting it off like Keep putting it off put it on where's get most not close though take it to the bank and

28:47 But this debate this discussion is interesting to me because it's gonna change a little bit at least changed Canada A little bit okay. Is that the end of that yeah, that's all I got well Do you have more on Trudeau or can we move over? All right We just think maybe one more thing on Trudeau there was so what I want to hook into the c51 I Think we can be I think Trudeau is It's gonna be entertaining for us. Okay, good! And Harper was very... Canadians always bitching at us and oh you guys never covered Canada Right Well there you go We covered Canada Never covered Canada It was borderline boring but we covered Canada Yeah well it's actually not as boring as you make it out to be No I'm just kidding John, I'm just kidding Alright hit it That's not boring at all While you're hooking into C-51 in the United Kingdom Gitmo Nation East The beta test for all things shut up slave

29:47 They finally released their extremism strategy, or I should say the counter-extremism strategy white paper. And in that we have a full-on definition of extremism. And I also have a clip here from Theresa May, the Home Secretary who is responsible for keeping the home safe, the homeland safe From the document first chapter one, The Threat from Extremism Here we go This is the definition John you'll want to pay attention because we are going to be in violation of this many times in the future

30:23 Extremism is the vocal or active opposition to our fundamental values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs. There's nothing in there about free speech? No yeah it's all about free speech and how you don't have it! We also regard calls for the death of members of our armed forces as extremist Life in our country is based on fundamental values that have evolved over centuries. Values that are supported and shared by the overwhelming majority of the population, and are underpinned by our most important local and national institutions These values include the rule of law, democracy individual liberty, and mutual respect tolerance and understanding different faiths and beliefs

31:10 So this tolerance meme, which is an EU-wide thing that's been going on. But probably we'll see that here too—tolerance bullying all of this. Really they're taking away your ability to be vocal about fundamental values of Great Britain And Theresa May is going to try and explain this on one of the morning shows. She's going to give a couple examples in what is very wide-ranging counter extremism strategy that we're launching today, and we're launching that because we do face unprecedented threat from extremism

31:48 groups like ISIL can put their, can send through the internet their message of, their perverted message of hatred into family homes. We see men and women and indeed whole families going out to Syria I think that shows us that we need to step up our actions to counter extremism what we are saying today is that we need to do more And we need to do more to counter the message of extremism and a counter that message of extremism across the board We've seen last week for example significant rises in reported hate crimes, and so what this hate crimes gotta love it actually talks about is dealing with extremism of all sorts So Islamist extremism but also neo-nazi extremists and those who are promoting Messages of hatred and division. This is this complicated

32:34 Or as we would say, a slippery slope. If you're communicating messages of hatred so you can't hate anybody anymore in the UK? You can't say hey those guys suck! I don't know how that explains soccer hooliganism. Well, that is the neo-nazi part they'll be they got to be rolling people up day and night at every soccer game in our football game communities we need to deal with that too and today is a recognition that there is more that we need to do uh in order to counter these messages of hatred these messages of division that the extremists are promoting but we also want to work with communities to promote mainstream voices

33:14 and to build more cohesive communities. So it's very much looking, I've seen from the work that i've done already the excellent work that is being done so in terms of parents what we're saying is that we would extend the ability for parents who are concerned about their youngsters perhaps going off to Syria perhaps getting involved in fighting If they go to join ISIL, it's a terrible brutal regime. And so there is a safeguarding issue for parents there So their ability to actually say to the authorities please could you withdraw your passport But of course at the other end of spectrum if you like The police also have a new ability and power which came in earlier this year To remove passports temporarily from people when they are at port When they are about to travel and the police are concerned about them

34:03 Now, you can't travel. You can't go anywhere." A couple of things strike me one is the cohesiveness and then a diversity I don't see how that works but the other thing is about the way they promote or try to dis-promote the ISIL group as a brutal regime that you go there and the next thing you know, you're dead. And generally speaking for one thing there's a lot of people following these guys so they do have a group of followers and their army is doing whatever it does to take areas even though maybe a front for some intelligence groups

34:41 In any war, one of the things that is always a problem for A-hole leadership is the thing I think you refer to as fragging where you shoot the guy. You have a gun And it happens in Vietnam, it was scandalous how many guys were shot by friendly fire accidentally sometimes in the back of the head as they were... Come on men! Let's go do this. And then you know next thing you know the guy was dead and by accident. Fratricide?

35:20 Or a grenade would go off by him or something. I mean, you don't... These types of brutal military operations are just propaganda. It's not as bad as they say it is. They're these guys who will be dropping left and right to kill each other! I agree with you. And this also is part of the Strong Cities Network? Have you been following this? No. StrongCitiesNetwork.org And this is a now it's funded by the US State Department and the cities involved are New York, London Beirut Arhos Atlanta Rotterdam Victoria Stockholm Copenhagen Kano Montreal Palermo Mumbai Denver Mombasa and They are training Denver. Yeah

36:20 Here, the Strong Cities Network aims to connect cities and other local authorities on an international basis to enhance local level approaches to prevent violent extremism including facilitating information sharing mutual learning and creation of new and innovative local practices. And uh... Yeah this is troubling. Violent extremism in Denver? Yeah yeah Hey man! What happened to my pot?! But I think you have to see it as interconnected with, you know...we're seeing Canadian cities. We're seeing British cities or US cities, French cities and there's this...I guess we're putting our guys in to train people to catch extremists and people who are troublemakers pretty much if you're vocally opposed to the values. Yeah all they doing is managing the catch complainers

37:27 I don't think there's a...I don't know. It's just that, you know this idea that this is an attack on free speech everything that you've talked about since the beginning of this segment Yes well That's why i'm talking about it because that's it's an attack on free speech exactly what it is Here The Strong Cities Network SCN has been created to achieve a focused and rapid exchange of ideas And methods to strengthen the safety security and cohesion of communities in cities The Strong Cities Network will connect cities and local authority practitioners through practical workshops, training seminars, webinars. I just threw that in... And sustained city partnerships. They should use webinars! Strong City Network members' cities will also contribute to and benefit from an online information hub. Oh sounds like a dashboard of municipal level good practices and web-based training modules there you go there's your webinar

38:19 Well as city to city exchanges strong cities network member cities will be eligible for grants supporting new innovative pilot projects and money grab Yeah, it's a money grab But but it's also to you know tell people to shut up. Yeah anything they get people to shut up It's really annoying to have the list of people complaining not good not good at all Okay So we have this interesting story about a so-called 15 year old stone kid who hacked into John Brennan's email. I have the backgrounder on this. You got a backgrounder, okay? Which one... by the way they got all of these from that I got all these backgrounded I've got all of them three by three networks Oh hold on a second 3x3 It's time for 3x3 Experiment By JCD

39:18 comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. There you go! The never ending 3x3. Now the 3x3...the three networks it's funny I know this is a new observation we're gonna make Is it really funny? Monday. It's hilarious okay on Monday it is Almost, almost all three of the networks on Monday have the exact same stories. It's strange! Well we had The Weeknd... Every other day they're all over the place but on Monday all the stories are pretty much the same and it's pretty amusing because the end of Brennan story was one of them

40:01 I looked at all three of them and said the CBS report seems to be the best. So this is the email hack rundown on CBS, I think it was the best out of the three. The personal emails of two of the highest ranking national security officials have been hacked CIA director John Brennan and Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson An anonymous hacker has been bragging about breaking into the accounts, but now multiple law enforcement sources have told us the breaches actually occurred. Jeff Pagais is breaking this new development in our Washington newsroom Scott, this is a criminal investigation and authorities are working to locate the suspect. He seems to be feeding off the publicity and that's in part why investigators are reluctant to talk about it but multiple law enforcement officials tell CBS News that he had unauthorized access to both private email accounts

40:56 Late in the day, the person tweeting under the handle of CWA followed through on threats to release sensitive information. I like CWA by the way crackers with attitude very cool You know we don't lie what you have all been waiting for sorry for the delay Along with that statement came an attachment with the names, social security numbers and phone numbers of about 20 people said to be affiliated with the head of the CIA. In fact, the unidentified hacker who claims to be a high school student says the information came from the private email account of CIA director John Brennan. Whoever it is also claims to have hacked into the private email account of Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson

41:40 Throughout the day, the hacker appeared to be taunting the officials and others in government. We are not doing this for personal satisfaction we're doing this because innocent people in Palestine are being killed daily Now, it goes on by the oh yeah. Oh yeah well a couple of things that we know first of all anyone who has an AOL account for their email you're just a loser no matter what Just right off the bat You know I was like are you kidding me this appeared to have been a dormant account though and I found it surprising right on the heels of the news that Julian Assange would no longer be

42:21 locked in the embassy with police guard 24-7 outside, Wikileaks goes ahead and publishes this information including his background check form which has a lot of personal information I didn't redact it so his address you know as kids is where his in-laws live. Which to me You know, I think we've collectively always had a suspicion that WikiLeaks is more aligned with CIA than anyone cares to admit. So it was interesting that WikiLeaks did that and there's no real discernible value to the emails that came out. They all were from 2008-2009 before Brennan became enlisted as a civil servant

43:07 So not necessarily like a Hillary email thing. But then, so I'm already like why is this happening? What is going on and why are we... Why do you have some stoner kid who's being blamed for this? And we'll leave it to one of our dopey Texans. Sorry to say because I wanted to like this guy for personal reasons Mike McCall who was the chairman of the... He's the new chairman of the Homeland Security Committee He's the Republican here in Texas? Is he actually... Mike McCall, is he...? Okay.

43:43 Yeah, he's the guy is either got to go from Mike Rogers. Yes He's a new guy because that was the intelligence committee not the Homeland Security it's different intelligence I'm sorry and he is a total I Don't know why you said that because we've talked about this guy in the show before and I called him out as a douchebag Right he refused to look at Feinstein's Report yes Which was kept is it kept in a locked room? And anyone can in Congress can go read it It's about the bit about the CIA torture program, and anyone can go read it. And only Democrats have read it. These Republicans won't read it! The guy...and this guy made a big point of it. I'm going to be the head...wait let me get this straight. I'm gonna take over from Mike Rogers. I'm gonna be the head of the Intelligence Committee for the House. The House Intelligence Committee is called Oversight Committee?

44:32 I'm not going to, I am going to not read this. What kind of a guy is this that would do that unless he's a douchebag? Well not only that but he didn't read his script and went on with Brolf Now, let me ask you just a side question. Has anyone actually been implicated in the OPM? The Office of Personnel Management hack and the theft of possibly up to 20 million? No! And I want to... since you mentioned it that's where I was going. I don't think this guy, this kid if it was a kid could be anyone let alone a stoner. I don't believe this kid did anything other than get ahold of the OPM files because all this information seems to me

45:10 There's no what opiate what opium files or Jim Brennan's OPM file Yeah, right all the OPM fuzz is a big file with four million people in it all the CIA Hold on he got he got Brennan's Security clearance form which is this thing is in that file right but but it was in his email That doesn't make sense It was it was called. It was if you look at the WikiLeaks release and It's called draft, uh... what is it? Whatever the form number is. And it was his draft of his form that he was sending in because this was before he was in the agency Yeah and he's gonna do over email I'm just telling you what we have now No, no, I know what your saying Okay so it has- I think that's the way its presented but I think this is just some data that was pulled from the OPM hack Well I think your- Whoever this person is part of that deal Well You're faster than I could get to it in your analysis I think you're right

46:05 And it is Dumbo, let's call him not douchebag but Dumbo Mike McCall who blows the script entirely. First of all do you know who was responsible for this hack? Not at this point in time Wolf but the idea that John Brennan's personal emails could be vulnerable to a cyber attack like this to a hack is very disturbing. Of course there's been a lot of discussion about it." Now listen, he just said that John Brennan's email could be vulnerable to a cyber hack like this is very disturbing! "...personal email servers as of late and you know the idea that they could

46:43 get his information and I know that Jay Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security who testified before my committee talked about some of his private information being stolen as well. This is a breach at OPM 20 million security clearances stolen by China There are various nation states like China that engage in espionage. I wouldn't be surprised if China was behind this one. Hold on, hold on a second. Did you hear what he said? Yeah, I heard what he said! First he said China's behind the OPM attack The first time we've heard the real number of 20 million It has always been 11 or 12 Or 4 And then he says...I think China was behind this as well

47:27 Yes, we said now. Now Brof of course is confused because bro has the script right in front of him Yeah, that's supposed to say that and remember that it was horrible It's very troubling that so that John Brennan's emails were hacked behind this one because it seems Like this hacker claims to be under 22, a young kid who's stoned all the time. You think that- I apologize you're correct about that. Oops! How is he? Oh backpedal what's he gonna do what's he gonna do? This was actually a young sort of anonymous type figure Wait a minute... Listen to what he says listen to what he says the whole thing is funny listen. This was a young sort of anonymous type figure

48:11 that did claim to be stoned at the time he did that, which is remarkable given what he accomplished. So instead of it being a horrible very troubling thing all it was just some stone kid and actually it's amazing what he did being so hammered What is up with this? Well I think you're correct in your assumption that there was a script involved and he went off script because he was getting a little irked cause he got emotional when we started talking about the Chinese who they suspect of everything He says, he says outright crap and he thinks China did this which is probably what he does think. And then all of a sudden the script cut, then Brof reminds him and says hey hey you're in the wrong script man what are you doing? This is the stoner script! Oh yeah we were supposed to be going with this and your going off the deep end Here's where Brof will come in That was horrible Yeah wait

49:04 But you're saying that China was responsible for the hack of all that personal data from the Office of Personnel Management, the government's agency. That is my opinion because it was a big data theft Big Data Theft! Now first of all this is the first anyone ever any stature has said China No no one has said China. This is the first guy this is the first time he says China and he says It's a big data theft Oh, that of course China big data theft is not done for criminal purposes. Oh no, no, he's lost it completely here. It's to get big data to exploit that data and then compromise

49:48 individuals in the federal government. So this is a classic case of espionage, the attribution and what we know about the OPM hack is that it was a contractor who shared credentials with somebody and then someone got in use those credentials found been administrator account open use that Yeah, it's like this is not so obvious that it was China. It goes back to the same source as the Anthem Blue Cross attacks into China. The Chinese of course are saying they had nothing to do with this but the way it was done... The fact that it was espionage all fingers all roads point to the PRC as being responsible. Okay well thanks! I didn't realize that Mr McCall

50:38 You want to hear a little more of him and Brov? Brofka brings up some other new information which we've not heard yet. Mr Chairman, today in a hearing it was revealed there have been more than 300 cases of small-scale cyber and physical attacks against power grids here in the United States since 2011 And not one suspect from these attacks has been identified let alone arrested Why can't these suspects be tracked down? What do you think the answer is to this? China Well, they can be and that's a reason to take place so we can't tie it back to the actors. The problem that you saw at the hearing was we have no response there are there are no there's no proportionate response To these attacks. There's no responsibility if you don't have consequences Bad behavior will continue I had five teenage

51:29 teenagers and if they're not consequences to bad behavior, they're going to continue. That's the same thing." He's again trying to bring in stone teenagers for some reason? But that's not what he really wants to say. And there are no rules of the game here. It's not defying what cyber warfare really is at this point in time and again, the president met with the leader of China and I know they're talking but I haven't seen any response to the OPM breach whatsoever. Oh man, blah blah blah China, blah blah blah China, blah blah blah China!

52:12 This guy is, he should be reprimanded at least for this. Well he shouldn't be on these shows And then the military industrial complex has ramped it up This is a little promo reel that I grabbed from Raytheon which is new Which I think our dude's name Ben will get a kick out of Raytheon has a new concept they're selling to government and to military It's called cyber hardening John Cyber hardening and we all have to do it. Cyber Hardening and Raytheon is the company to do it for you! Embedded computing systems are commonplace in today's connected environment Everything from vehicles and appliances, to defense systems and satellites are making our lives easier with amazing efficiency

53:01 To ensure these systems continue to operate properly, they have to be secured through a process called cyber hardening. Insider negligence and cyber attackers can expose vulnerabilities that could destroy alter or take over any given connected device Globally, governments, militaries and private organizations must take these four steps to reduce risks. Wow! Four steps... You ready for the four steps? You might want to take notes. Are you ready? Got my pen out. Alright here we go. Conduct vulnerability assessments and penetration testing of software and hardware. Okay... Penetration test got it check Updating outdated and unpatched software Yeah And removing any unnecessary software in user accounts

53:45 Set up intrusion detection. Intrusion detection, what a concept! Intrusion prevention and tamper resistant protections And make sure members of their supply chain employ strong cyber hardening practices cyber hardened brag I'm hard right now somebody should hack Raytheon Hey you hackers out there, I think this is kind of the beauty of The situation a the on the situation we're in right now is all of this is going to be hacked everybody everything You put in place. There is no You know, fail safe all secure. It just doesn't exist does not exist it's not possible but everyone believes

54:26 in this farce that it's all safe and secure. But you know, with Raytheon I'm sure we can give those guys a couple billion dollars to cyber-harden me. Well executed and continuously updated Cyber Hardening plan will help minimize risk. I need to continue the marketing. Yeah! Continuously updated Cyber Hardening plan. I am your Cyber Hardening expert. And do you know who they're using? We could make more money selling Cyber Hardening advice. We've got virtual Viagra to harden your cyber. It's just it's it's an insult to anybody who knows that character you Had the clip of McCall Mike McCaul McCall my mic mic I can tell us in my guys first name has to be Mike Mike Rogers this guy More Michael man we I think his initial attempt to like

55:24 discussed this was designed to make, to do a parallel thought process where you'd say oh if these guys can have their accounts so easily hacked because there weren't government accounts it was an AOL account and the other one was who knows what. This could have happened to Hillary. No I don't think that's it but I think something else is going on again we have WikiLeaks Publishing for no discernible journalistic purpose, as far as I can tell. Publishing what they have like eight emails all from 2008 before Brennan was in service. Why those eight? That's all there is!

56:03 This is an old account, you see. But I'm thinking that they're doing this for a reason and it's possibly kind of what I thought you were going to do is we have cyber legislation coming up for vote in the next two months We have the Sharing Act, CISA, all these different cyber acts And I think this is meant purposely or not, but you know to say hey this so severe that we even have our top guys Juh Johnson and John Brennan the drone Meister. Yeah is it they're being hacked? Is it possible since you if you want to make the assertion that WikiLeaks is tight with the CIA That's what we've always asserted I think. Okay It has been a long yes-it-has And they're sick of Brennan

56:52 And we're going to start seeing a possible an internal policy of embarrassing Brennan at every step. That could be possible way so we get him out of there because he's screwing up that could be, because the CIA is always assumed to have like a shadow government running it yeah you know it's like the There's the head of the CIA, which is a political guy. George HW Bush was one of them. But then you'd expect something to be in those emails that was damning but there's nothing in this. Sorry I'm just doing little cyber effects. I love seeing these cyber effects it makes me... Well I think the hack itself is the damning part. Cyber hardening? Hold on we got cyber hardened. Okay! I think that the hack itself was the damming part how can this guy let this happen?

57:41 But he and arguably it's the same thing happened to portray us hmm the trace was also outed right not out But that was by the FBI. That was we don't do we know that it was no again No, we don't know we don't know We don't know That does not a good sound I'm cyber hardening the show It's it's not the right sound its dirt is the same sound as the CNN Sound is their sound So something is up with this. And the thing that really got me is when you have McCall saying, oh it's so horrible that Brennan got... It probably just to implicate the Chiners. That's the only thing because that's where the guy goofed up and he said, Oh, this was done by China. I think he's just an idiot. Impossible!

58:31 I don't think he knows what's done by it. Maybe he just suspects the Chinese do everything. But for him to say it is the Chinese, that's big news! It IS big news but again if he's just a moron shooting from the hip and doesn't really know who it is and no one has testified to that effect even in closed hearings then maybe he's just an idiot which I'm more inclined to believe Don't take away my thunder man I'm loving the China connection. I'm loving it well, I mean I had a I had a meeting with the CEO of cloudflare because i'm looking into some of these crazy outrageous networks out there that are taking over the world that was this week

59:14 It was last week. Oh interesting yeah cloud flow They're also the guys who you can turn to if you have a DDoS attack They're pretty good at helping people with that I think they can stop any DDoS attack Yeah, he says right now their network is so big there is no player that can make a bigger DDoS attacked and they can handle or That they could make that's just your side yes, we wanted to okay? Well, he was relating a story of some DDoS attacks that started with DDoS attacks against hookers in Turkey.

59:50 There's a bunch of hookers in Turkey and they were having this DDoS attack. On their advertising websites? Yeah, because there was some consolidated sites or something and they took care of it And then there was another one similar kind of thing not the hooker but then there was a big bank There was a bunch of these in a row and they and the attack was according to their one experts kept coming from the same place and many if not a majority of DDoS attacks come from all they can identify it as is northern Iran. Any been in mostly political attacks so that hookers were you know sinners yeah? So they were attacked and then somebody and the bank was like screwed him out of some I don't know He wouldn't tell me which Bank it was. I suspect it was HSBC, but it was a big international bank And they were getting pounded and they came into to stop the DDoS attacks using their methodologies and there is they have a very unique architecture and

1:00:55 But it seems to be that a lot of this stuff comes from the Tehran area. This is never discussed by anyone and he said that, you know, they also do... Cloudfarer also works for the government Most of the big agencies use their, they have a layer. You just buy the layer and the layer itself will prevent any sort of DDoS attacks and you shouldn't be having DDoS attacks in this day and age when these guys are around it's not an overpriced product you can get a free version if your small user. It's really interesting operation I have to say Next I visit with Engine X. EngineX? That from Atlas shrugged isn't it?

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1:06:31 which I'm trying to get to make a chocolate, Swiss chocolate orange ice cream. I got the guy who's... A kid, he's an adult but he used to work for Swenson's and i talked about this on the show that Swenson's used to have a bittersweet chocolate orange chip or something it was the ice cream I had in in France once, but it had these little chocolate chips and I didn't like that. But orange and chocolate is a great combination as an ice cream is fantastic He said, this is a little aside but I want to bring it up because people should know this especially younger people out there. And I don't want to say that everyone should be a personal spy but he worked for Swenson's and then they folded and I asked him did you get the recipes? Did you take the recipes home?

1:07:23 Now, I'm sure it's illegal. It's probably unethical." But if you want to make some ice cream for your friends or something, I don't see it as really that unethical to have a professional recipe to do it with," and he says no, he didn't. He forgot to take the recipes and he should have. And then I related that when I worked for Union Oil as an analytical chemist... They had a binder full of proprietary tests. Let me guess, it's somewhere in a pile in your office? No! I was too young to realize how valuable that binder was and especially one test in particular they had a test for tetraethyl lead in gasoline which would be valueless now but it was the best test for... It was an outrageously accurate test And anyone who is an analytical chemist will know that testing for this and that in solutions

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1:09:55 If we take the numbers estimating 10 million migrants who didn't previously need heating, divide that up into family units gives potentially 4 million new households each spending around $1,000. pounds a year on additional gas imports. That gives four billion a year in potential extra revenue to the Ruskies and energy distributors, assuming they stay living in Europe over a lifetime that's a lot of money. So basically bombs equals displaced people equals new gas market equal great business model Shout out to my dude named Ben website. I just need to respond right now there they're intense They're intense they have no toilets they have no food their end of walking in mud But if they're cold, they're starving like this guy's the way I like thinking and then it is Of course Turkey isn't a part of the new The new Russian gas pipeline that the new

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1:15:11 You know, I feel real bad now. Why? Well telling people that if they get fired from their mean-spirited employer that they should take some company secrets with them. Yeah... dynamite! I think it's against the law by the way so i shouldn't do that yeah yeah be careful you know that is vocal extremism against uh Norms and values, but I would have been nice to have the rest you know the funny thing was he thinks He can reproduce the recipe guy And he gave me the basic kind of recipe for that chocolate ice cream that they made But he didn't have a real rest. I got so I gotcha. I gotcha well we learned something new yesterday

1:15:49 And I was dumbfounded, having grown up in the Netherlands. You know? Having many playdates and friends who had their grandparents around with tattooed numbers from concentration camps on their arms...on their forearms We learned something brand new from Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. Here is the Jake Tapper CNN report. Tensions continue to run high after days of bloodshed between Israel and the Palestinians adding fuel to the fire today claims made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claims that Hitler just wanted to expel Jews from Europe

1:16:24 But then a prominent Muslim leader in Jerusalem suggested that Hitler exterminate them instead. The comments have drawn widespread condemnation not only from Palestinian leaders and Israelis, including those in his own party but from leading Israeli historians and advocates for survivors of the Holocaust There is growing concern that Netanyahu's remarks will only throw flames on the fire So I figured we'd listen to the actual piece of his speech just to get a better understanding because this is probably gonna talk about the grand Mufti. Yeah, he's talking about Muhammad Effendi Amin al-Husseini who indeed was against the Jews and teamed up with the Germans but the way Netanyahu put this in his speech was

1:17:07 really, really baffling for anyone who's learned about the Second World War. Or anyone who did any student of Himmler! Yeah I mean when you listen to this you'd think that Hitler was kind of a moderate guy... You know? Ehh.. The Jews are just a little troubling and then the Mufti comes along and says, you gotta burn them! Burn them!! And this attack and others attacks Other attacks on the Jewish community in 1920, 1921 and 1929 were instigated by a call of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini who was later sought for war crimes in the Nuremberg trials because he had a central role in fomenting the final solution. He flew to Berlin Hitler didn't want to exterminate Jews at that time – he wanted to expel the Jews

1:18:00 And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, if you expel them they'll all come here. So what should I do with them? Yes. He said burn them! This is a holy ground. During the Nuremberg trials for prosecution he escaped it later died in cancer after the war, died of cancer. But this is what Haj Amin al-Husseini said he said the Jews seek to destroy the Temple Mount my grandfather in 1920 seeks to destroy the sorry the Al Aqsa Mosque. So this lie is about a hundred years old yeah okay

1:18:41 So, apparently... I just love that. Hitler was kind of a cool guy! He's like the Jews are just a little annoying and we're on the express train you know? Yeah we'll send them away and then the Mufti came along and said burn them! Burn them! And Hitler went hmm well that's a good idea i think we should change the common core textbooks to include this now I'm trying to get the date of uh... It was 1941 apparently when they had this meeting. Yeah it was in 41. The, the, the, the, it's already underway But there is no evidence that the Mufti said this and Hitler went oh hmmm that's a good idea

1:19:25 There's no evidence of that. No, there is no evidence he didn't do it. But this is Netanyahu saying once again It's the damn Arab Arabs! It's the Palestinians that...it's their all to blame They did it Oh yeah this is gonna be the end of this guy Is he insane? I don't know why they keep voting him in but there are people who are sticking up for him saying Yeah That's true, that's true, that's true There scholars who were saying it There's lots of scholars who're saying its not true But, man. Speaking of bullcrap and not true... I've been- ever since you brought it up and I had kind of dismissed it because I followed the Bellingcat guys Elliot Higgins the blogger who testified before the MH17 committee in the safety board in The Netherlands And he's now an expert on weapon systems through his crowdsourcing

1:20:30 So he tweeted two days ago, huge thanks to Google. Google for media I should say what is Google for media? It's one of those things they got going on over there you can charge to keep up they don't tell anybody what they're up to They have a closed shop and very little public relations. They never send out press releases. Huge thank oh this Oh Google News Lab Okay, huge thanks to Google for Media who have provided funding to keep Bellingcat alive for the next year and pay it for our first full-time hire. Well well well! Isn't that tidy? Huh Super super tidy I'd say That's interesting Yeah so these guys... This guy is just full of crap Oh yeah well you know if you look at bellingcat dot com You know and i'm really

1:21:31 I really don't trust them at all. Google's now supporting, are you kidding me? So much for independence There are a lot of things they're not really discussing They still are all over this MH17 shoot down Well, he's the number one guy. He comes around and says it came from Russia. Russia did it! Well what is interesting I caught NPR doing something very very nasty. This is Corey Felthoff. Are you familiar with this guy? Yeah. He is...I think he is the main Moscow correspondent for NPR

1:22:09 And he did this reasonably long piece... Is NPR not News Hour, right? No. NPR and he does this piece about the report and it says well you know as a law is nine or ten minutes well then the book guys they said it can't be one of our couldn't have been to Russians because an outdated model only Ukrainians have that and they built some stupid airplane and they tried to make it look like so he's very very negative And then he winds up this report with an outright lie, which was nowhere in the report whatsoever. You know Corey obviously you've traveled around this region many times during the conflict and you were at the wreckage site in the days after MH17 went down what's your take on everything that's known at this point?

1:22:52 Well, the separatists actually seemed to have boasted at one point that they had a book. We reporters saw purported photos of it online and we managed to geolocate one of the places where one of those photos was taken That's the Bellingcat work right? You go stand there and oh this is where we saw that little brief piece of YouTube video I went there and the location matched the photos But I have to say, I was unable to find an eyewitness who could positively say that they'd seen a book there on the day MH17 was attacked. Okay so okay... So that's some good fact-checking there but then... It was attacked! Based on everything i saw and independent investigations I've read since then, I think the Dutch investigators are right it was a book fired from separatist territory

1:23:38 And because the Buk is a pretty complex military system, I think it was beyond the capacity of the separatist militia fighters to operate. So that would make it likely that the Buk was operated by a trained Russian crew. But Russia can't admit that because to admit that would be to admit that Russian officials have been lying for more than a year about their involvement in Ukraine. It also isn't not part of MH17 Safety Board report. Nowhere does it say that this had to have been operated by Russians That's really bad journalism right there Well, depends If you listen to what he says He works for the government Gotta get this message out there or somebody I don't know It's just speculation But he kind of weaves it into saying well according to the report So its not speculation Exactly

1:24:37 That's douchey. It's douchey, it is very very douchey that's the whole thing that is going on we're out there you know and now its getting worse you know get in going after Putin and there's a lot of good stuff coming out well I really liked to you know the embarrassment all embarrassments to the United States and President Obama. Its' the first foreign visit for Syrian president Bashar al-Assad since the start of the Syrian crisis in 2011 He came to Moscow to personally thank Russian President Vladimir Putin for Moscow's military support in the war. The meeting comes three weeks after Russia launched an air campaign against Syrian insurgents in support of its Mideast ally For his part, Putin said progress on the military front will make a political solution in Syria that much easier I love these guys! Hey here I am over in Moscow didn't see me leave did you? Nanananana

1:25:31 Well, this... I have the same report but at the very end of the CBS version using a 3x3. Yes? You get this little tidbit which i believe is just bullcrap but this is the CBS Assad visit clueless clip. But he's still Moscow's man And Scott the clearest sign that Vladimir Putin has his own agenda and is now a powerful independent actor on the Syrian issue No one in the US government had a clue about the Assad Moscow visit until after it happened Mark Phillips in our London newsroom mark. No one had a clue until after it happened I don't believe that

1:26:16 I mean, for one thing how would you know? Half the CIA could have known about this or the NSA who's following all this stuff. Well apparently not! If he was just flying in the air why didn't we shoot him down?! Isn't he a horrible dictator who uses chemical weapons on his own people and why can't the president have us sit down with him!? Everybody sits down with this guy Putin Charlie Rose everybody is hanging out with them Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie But the president can't talk to the guy. No this whole thing is it shows it shows the Emperor has no clothes Our lesser since we're talking about Syria and Putin hmm, who wouldn't put food food?

1:26:59 I want to go back to the networks and we might as well hear what the official because Richard Engel is the official guy That's right. The official guy winner liar put but they put the top guy the top official guys Put him in person for the intelligence community that way when you see it, that's right And this is a Richard Engel report on Putin and Syria and he brings up a bunch of points that we've made about like weeks ago. For almost five years now Syrian President Assad has hunkered down in Damascus while his country disintegrated. Hunkered down! So it came as a surprise today to see pictures of him in Moscow with Vladimir Putin It's been three weeks since Russia began air strikes against Assad's enemies in Syria but as chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel tells us tonight the meeting in Moscow was more than just a thank-you visit

1:27:49 Syrian President Assad made a surprise visit to Moscow to meet with his defender, Vladimir Putin. His first known trip abroad since the war began. How Assad traveled was kept secret. The trip revealed only after he was back in Damascus Russia seems to want to show the world it's a superpower once more releasing new footage today of what it claims are more than 40 airstrikes over Syria in the past 24 hours. A lifeline for Assad, but Russia may be trying to broker an end to the conflict. Putin is saying military operations will lay the base for a long-term political settlement

1:28:31 But after a quarter million dead, can any political solution include Assad? US officials tell NBC News that Putin may be propping up Assad only to transition him out later. Whatever the master plan this war also has a fringe benefit for Russia showcasing its latest weapons advanced cruise missiles and fighter jets. for every drop of propaganda. State-controlled media brags about Russia's military prowess, even releasing dramatic footage from a drone flying low over battlefields near Damascus. Putin has brought Russia to the front lines in Syria and wants the world to know it maybe to end the war maybe to sell weapons certainly to gain as much prestige as possible Lester

1:29:27 That's right. Show how good our stuff works! There was one of the think tank meetings I watched that discussed the fact that Putin has over the last two years modernized all their weaponry and I think they're back in business to sell this stuff And you have to put it into use to sell it. This is an old trick that we've known for a long time That's the best way to show, you know your stuff works Yeah, it blows things up It's not getting shot down Meanwhile, you know I think we're spot-on about Turkey being the odd man in the middle or not really odd but having a lot of power. Turkey of course as mentioned previously will be the new conduit for Russian gas with the Turkish stream and little bit research...I think actually this was Dame Angela who sent this to me We were looking at Victoria Newland also known as Noodleman Also known as Mrs Kagan

1:30:29 what she's doing in the Balkans and now I've got a full report. She was in Macedonia, and it looks like she is organizing one of her favorite color revolutions in Macedonia. And Macedonia would be one of the key links for Turkish stream gas to flow through Macedonia further into Europe And so it looks like... I have a rhetorical question. Why does any country allow that woman to travel freely within their country? She should be on the terrorist watch list! I think a country like, you know when you look at Nikola Gruevski who's the prime minister these guys are afraid You know didn't they organize a bank run when they were talking some crap off here have a bank run shut up

1:31:26 Now, Newland is powerful man. She's powerful! So the Turkestrine pipeline will be transporting gas from Russia through Turkey Greece Macedonia Serbia Hungary and then into Central Europe that's the plan so I think anything is being done not to mess with Turkey because we're afraid of Turkey Because they really do hold a lot of the cards But we're going to mess with all these smaller states and you know look for something bad to happen in Macedonia That's why they're afraid of her she takes no prisoners. And then, of course, we had

1:32:17 the A country Angela Merkel believes holds the solution. We can see that there's a migration flow, this flow might increase and come to the European Union from Turkey and we believe that we should share Turkey's burden and support Turkey in helping tackle this problem But it is what that help is proving controversial

1:32:53 Merkel's offer to push forward Turkey's bid for EU membership has prompted public criticism from within her own power base. The first chink in the armour perhaps, made worse by a slew of weak economic data. Opinion polls in particular are sounding the alarm bell, Merkel's popularity sliding to its lowest level in nearly four years. So she also offered three billion euros... ...to help I wonder if all three billion goes straight into Erdogan's private account or how are they going to work that out? Yeah, it does. This is so obvious the turkey is blackmailing the EU and it's bad I mean this is this is I? Mean even it hurts me now I'm looking at this video of these poor slums And you got cops in riot gear pushing people back to slipping down the mud they're trying to assist you This is just it's beyond on its beyond horror and these people are in English are saying hey You know if you have no human

1:33:56 compassion. You have no empathy." I thought Europe was going to be great, Europe sucks balls! Sucks! Scenes of anguish and despair as thousands of migrants gather on Serbia's border with Croatia. The kids screaming... They are virtually spastic, stranded waiting on cold wet borders after Hungary closed its southern frontier. It's an all too familiar scene at the epicenter of the greatest migration of people in Europe since World War II The UNHCR struggles to hand out raincoats Coordinator Iroda Askarova says they are doing what they can.

1:34:40 As you can see, this is a humanitarian—seriously humanitarian situation. You can see if you go to the crowd, you will see women with children with disabled people. They are all trapped and the border at the moment remains closed from Croatian side." The EU has agreed to a plan resisted by Hungary and several other ex-communist countries to share refugees among its members But with thousands pouring in each day, it may be a promise that is hard to keep. Leaving scores in a virtual no man's land offering little but hope." So you know this is all happening based on what has been called the second wave that Turkey let go

1:35:26 And I think that was, you know, that was the final straw for certainly for the Germans. But everyone...the EU can't figure out what to do and people in these individual countries, you know? I'm just reading The Dutch reports. The people are mad! They're freaking out like we can't handle this. We can't have this many immigrants. We don't know what to do. We have high unemployment as is they're all getting money and shelter and then they're taking away our resources You know, to me you look at it this World War III is perhaps already being fought. It's just not going to be done with cannons and stuff. Oh yeah some people who live in the sand screw them they'll get messed up but I mean...I don't think uh this is epic this is really truly of epic proportion what's happening

1:36:20 And this is going to fast track Turkey into the EU. They'll probably get some... I presume that's all that can happen, here are 3 billion euros thank you and maybe there is another three into your own private account everyone is corrupt and please stop don't let a third wave happen it's not if the optics are gonna be pretty bad for the EU. Optics? Yeah they're gonna be pretty bad I don't understand why this isn't the number one news. Number one, Sweden says they're close to collapsing! There's no way there will be no more Swedish people in Sweden. Stop them!

1:37:02 Well, Sweden is the one they've all... I mean the Swedish government is all in on all this stuff. Yeah, they're stopping it. They're like come on down! Yeah but now there actually... The Swedish government is borrowing money to be able to afford the immigrants coming in which I found peculiar but just reading their reporting No, this is the number one thing going on in the world that is going to destabilize...it's gonna destabilize the EU. And when the EU gets destabilized bad things happen. Very bad things happen. Well we'll see what happens. I don't see if I was one of these immigrant folks, I would like to know…I mean this is a story that's not told and then we have Richard Engel roaming around with these people as they walk and walk and walk. They walk a lot.

1:37:55 It never gets explained adequately to me. A couple of things, one you're in a refugee camp to begin with on the border of Syria and Turkey or some place there's a bunch of them they all surround they surrender in Lebanon they're everywhere and I've seen some reports where people go into the camps and look around little stores have been set up it's like a little small Tent town. They all have electronic debit cards Yeah, they got these cars is a little tent actually a functioning horrible city right of I guess a Slaves, well there's no slaves because they had nothing to do. It's it's like favelas in Brazil They have all these... The crappy slums the slums slums is the slums made out of tents of this similar to what's going on in Haiti so you're in those slums made out of tents and

1:38:56 You have a choice. You could stay there, and I'm sure there's a lot of crime and other weird things that go on to make it miserable... you can stay there and wait it out! And things do stabilize eventually so you can stay there and wait it out or Or you can be told hey There are some great... oh the Europeans are gonna welcome us with open arms like we were supposed to be welcomed. And it's possible that people hand in an envelope with okay here is 1000 euros Go. That could be that, and we do know that there's already books and maps and things that they give out to these people so they know which route to take and what road to take... And how to get from here to... And these people are walking across Europe John! They're walking across Europe! It's astonishing. Walking! Walking!

1:39:47 Yeah, for time down they get thrown into a bus and they get you know shipped off somewhere yeah Then they gotta walk after they get out but did you see that the tent camps on fire like burning? Oh my god. It's just a joke And it's being, you know... We're of course largely responsible and you have to wonder whether we did it on purpose or not. The No Agenda thought with the noodle-mans and the people like that our thought is yeah! Yeah fuck the EU screw them! Yeah because if she says when she says that she means it But the question is are are we in cahoots with Turkey? Is Turkey in cahoots with Russia? Are we afraid of Turkey? No we're never we're not afraid of anybody

1:40:36 Well, I don't think we're handling the situation very well. You don't know that? We're not handling exactly the way we wanted to handle it. Oh this is a good point. This is a good point but it really... For all we know It's all going along to plan. Okay, so let's take that stance for a moment We're responsible it's all going along to plan then the EU counter strikes with this landed with a hefty new tax bill for 20 to 30 million euros it wasn't exactly a cappuccino moment for Starbucks That's the amount The Netherlands has been ordered to recover in back taxes from the coffee shop chain

1:41:11 A similar amount by Luxembourg from Fiat Chrysler. Those countries giving those companies special tax arrangements or rulings according to European competition commissioner Margrethe Vestager. The tax ruling have artificially reduced the tax burden of both companies And this is illegal under EU state aid rules. Last year, fiat finance and trade paid not even 0.4 million in corporate tax and Starbucks manufacturing paid not even 0.6 million in tax

1:41:48 Feared to deny receiving any state aid, Starbucks says it will appeal. Luxembourg disagrees while the Netherlands says it's surprised at the ruling Amazon and Apple are among other companies in the Commission's crosshairs though Vestager said those cases are different while also warning that the commission would not stop here One tax advisor who spoke to Reuters agreed The ruling he said would rock the corporate world to its very core. So it seems like there's a little retaliation going on, really? You're gonna be like that well why don't we just screw all your companies with their Irish Dutch reach around taxation scam

1:42:26 Now the Netherlands... It's about time they did that. Yeah, well this is just small because you know Google and Apple and Yahoo! And all those guys that's the big money Starbucks nothing to be sneezed at And was it also Facebook? I think Facebook UK they paid 300 thousand pounds in taxes last year That's great So maybe this is all on wars Just economic war It certainly not very nice of them to do that The way its working we're winning That's all that matters, I guess. Yeah, it is exactly right! It's all that matters as long as we're winning. Very competitive you know? Alright enough of that... Sorry i was coughing off air. I've been looking at some more looking for more As I wrote in the last newsletter I did a lot of stuff on or bitched about native advertisers which now I have to say is completely out of control

1:43:32 It's just, it's everywhere now and I'm now making the assertion that all news will be except our news and other people that do not need this huge amount of advertising income. These overstaffed newspapers that went online... Right! And what we're seeing is outfits like Vice which is a native advertising company they're owned by an advertising company We got a letter from a producer whose friend worked at Vice and the producer says He was told that Vice is really an ad agency. Yeah, yeah! And when you read this... so a friend of mine... some of the things afterwards I was looking at the Native Advertising Institute Yes, I ordered my free book yes, you have to order it. Thank You, I appreciate it

1:44:26 So, on the first page of one of their pages is this friend of mine who used to be an editor at PC Magazine. She went to work for Fortune. And then she'd been floating around and then she worked for Dell as part of the branding team or something. And then, she got this job at Politico and so I sent her a nasty note which looks like... Wait a minute! You sent your friend a nasty note? What did you say to her?! Well, I was chiding her. What did you say!? I said that you should milk this. She's become the queen of native advertising. Oh man.... and when she did it as a stick in the middle of your eye aren't you well he so she's she went to work at political is a big article about her on an advertising agent i want to read a paragraph from that justin show how pervasive this now she works out the native advertising institute now she works for political political okay as the as they see guide to the native advertising department chiefly it has been a made of officer season yeah

1:45:27 So she's going to be the political is going to have a lot of native ads like everybody else. But in the, there was some editorializing in the Ad Age article and I want to mention this. And then discuss it for a second. Politico, it says may find itself already late to the game of native advertising. Late to the game? Although it began selling so-called native ads that is ads that resemble editorial content three years ago. The site was relying on the advertiser to produce the content. Oh what a mistake! Meanwhile, its Capitol Hill competitors like the Washington Post and The Atlantic have carved out departments to make articles themselves and videos themselves for the advertisers. Nice! This is nice...nice to hear

1:46:20 It said, Mr. this other guy I guess who's the boss there said Politico will set itself apart by applying its style of journalism and relentless focus on Beltway influencers and policymakers to branded content We didn't want to rush into it, he said. And the hiring of Ms. Locey gives the company a holistic perspective on the industry one that includes time inside a big brand," he goes on. So here's what has been going on and we've been following this for couple years now and it is getting worse Well, what's funny to me is that the advertisers are at the point now where initially they had to produce the content which means they had to go hire somebody to write an article.

1:47:08 And they are not in the business. You know, all they've got is... They have a product and then they have an advertising agency to write an article but advertising agencies are peopled by copywriters and copywriting techniques are alien to reporting technique. It requires a new type of beast. A new type of thinking. Another kind of article you need so they had to go find a freelancer and most Most honest writers don't like doing these gigs unless they really pay well, then they love them Yeah And then do under a pseudonym and you can use the pseudo name so you just write this great P That's what I would do. All right a great piece he had paid two three bucks a word which is cop Wow Really? Yeah Oh yeah for good people Okay noted

1:48:00 and you get, then they take the thing and then they run it. They can run in different places or they can do whatever they want with it but then runs as an article in the magazine or newspaper now that advertisers are getting Now, why are we doing this? Because the...and I can imagine the rationale. I'm thinking to myself if I'm gonna place something in The Washington Post or The New York Times, I'd rather have a Washington Post reporter write it so it really sounds like it belongs there." Yeah and preferably with a byline from a post writer Right, you're gonna have more trouble getting that but I think that's just this. That's the next day coming That's coming yeah right now You can't do that you can't get the writers because their newspaper guys are still up uppity about They're not hungry enough yet don't worry it'll come yeah they get when they start starving to death and then hungry Then the whole newspaper will be a native ass because why would you do a story about anything? This is a perfect storm with blockpocalypse where when you know

1:49:00 There's almost no value now in display ads on websites. like the Native Advertising Institute and all these different, oh there's a... it could be a club of these guys because there are all these different processes that you can do this would get together themselves and they themselves would create and promote ad blockers. Oh yeah! Of course! That gives me to build their business. These ad blockers and term blockpocalypse Sounds very much like something an advertising agency would come up with To promote something yeah, so you start promoting this stuff You kill the normal advertising method and my and mind you one of the biggest at isn't it? Who does Apple's ads is still ogilvy or is it? I think Ogilvy has been was a ddb. It's Omnicom. I guess did he be need him. I think that could be yeah

1:49:56 They don't use the super creative guys as much as they used to. No, but they would certainly be able to help promote the blockpocalypse part. They're in on the native advertising so all advertising is trending toward this and I think most content on a lot of these magazines because there's no... In the olden days, I've talked this over with some people. In the olden days when you could do an editorial style, you could write an article and have it placed in not so much The New York Times because they wouldn't do it although they do now. They wouldn't do...but the local paper, but you had to two things. One, you had to put advertising, advertising, advertising across the top so as clear to the reader that this was an advertisement there are reading

1:50:41 Fonts and the style had to be different than the paper. Yeah, so you'd have to have a different like in The New York Times if it was in The New York Times You couldn't use times Roman and you couldn't use their headline font whatever it is that has been thrown out the window That's out that's done And then you don't even have to put advertising advertising across-the-top you can put this right into the flow of things and you can Put at the end you know this is a sponsored article or something like that, and that's good enough And so the whole church and state thing that they always like to brag about, it's all gone. The corruption is...it's taken over and nobody is complaining about it because if the New York Times is doing it and the Washington Post is doing it— Then everybody can do it then it's fair game? Yeah that means everyone can do it because those are the leaders. In fact everyone is doing it and why…if you're owning the place I'm owning the place of newspaper I'm thinking

1:51:37 We just did an article on the new McDonald's something or other. Why are we even doing this article unless they're paying us? That would be my rationale for everything, why are we doing this article unless they're paying us so everything is going to be... I mean yeah there'll be some weather report that you can't find anybody give any money for maybe get some global warming guy help you out sponsored by The Global Warming Committee here's today's weather You know, you have sunny and fair. It's going to get worse." Yeah it's a horrible situation and people should appreciate it that we are not playing that game because we are sponsored by the people that listen and produce the show yeah it did so it's baffling to me

1:52:26 Well of course yeah, I know it actually is not baffling. You're not going to see and the The journalists are not gonna be talking about this themselves. I don't think there's gonna be a lot of articles Oh you can't native advertising Yeah, yeah well here Let's look at some of the native as it's the disconnect what's interesting is that disconnected? You have Silicon Valley in one hand talking about you know Acceptable ads how we're gonna make it all work this by the way is horrible for Google It was horrible for them This is now what they want They want to have the search results be, have the ads in all the places at right time. That's a big promise they still haven't really reached it but that's really their business and I think that's why Google is so panicky and they start all these other businesses looking for a way out because it is going to end It won't be tomorrow let's look 10 years out maybe we can somewhat

1:53:22 I mean, but now we're getting situations. And I want to play this clip This is the national anthem clip and everyone knows that I moan and groan about sporting events playing the national anthem because they're not military events Well, we already know what this is. This is native advertising Well, this takes it...this is not as the native advertising you think But this is the Monday night football game This is the end of the national anthem and just let it play out You'll see what I'm talking about First mango, then a worm Be all that you can be. Gotta love it!

1:54:23 So they played a commercial for this military insurance company. I was just stunned by that, but not as much as this one. Now this is the beginning of this and then the end... This is on 3x3's. This is CBS out of The Blue. They decided to play this long feature on retirement and it's actually kind of interesting. And the first part is, and it goes on and on so there's like six seven eight nine ten minutes but I only have a little bit from the beginning but play CBS On Retirement Prelude

1:55:00 travel. A new study says that new college graduates won't be able to retire until they are 75, in part because average student loan debt is over Hey, happy future kids. For $35,000 and that's up more than 5,000 from just three years ago their financial problems are also forcing their parents to delay retirement and Anthony Mason has tonight's eye on money

1:55:39 This area has pretty much always been home. Steve and Beth Bureau both grew up in the Chicago area, and were hoping to retire here soon but then the youngest of their three daughters went off to college When we started realizing that little one was going away to school We knew it was gonna be delayed. I don't see it before 70 at least that's probably not what you planned No, no Steve is a 58 year old packaging designer Beth who's 56 works in a medical clinic? I thought when I got a little bit older that we could travel or we could do other things But right now all I'm looking at is working and making money

1:56:19 That's right, slave! You do not pass go. I just have to editorialize a little bit here. This is... Again it's like John's advice if you want to travel, you know, you're looking forward to traveling, travel when you're young When you just get out of college or just out of high school, don't plan on spending your whole life so you're an old fart traveling. This is not... Holding up the lines I might add. Holding up traffic with your blinker on. Who's gonna take those tour buses? It is no fun to travel when you're older. Go travel when you're in your 20s that's when you wanna travel. You meet people, you have affairs on the road there's all kinds of cool stuff that goes on none of it when you're older

1:57:03 Travel from Turkey to Germany. It's a great trip lots of people are doing it, it's fun you get to see the countryside So this retirement thing continues and continues and here we get to the end which is that where all of us sudden You realize what they're up to when they get to the end. This is the after retirement segment clip. Most of all, Scott financial planners say put something aside and remember a late start is better than no start at all. Anthony Mason thanks very much and we'll be right back tonight's eye on money segment is sponsored by Voya Financial changing the way you think of retirement

1:57:44 And they go right into a commercial for this. Yeah, yeah. Shameless! It's shameless! They don't even care that you'd notice. Well you know what most people don't notice? That's the sad part. Unbelievable I saw this my jaw dropped it's like are you kidding me and I respect the CBS News but... No, no Well, that just goes to show that even though we're not perfect we try very hard and it is your support that makes all this come together. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab On NO AGENDA morning We have some people to thank for Show 767 named after The Jet starting with Andrew Brown 1-2-3-4-5 out of London Ontario Canada

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2:00:08 And what we use as jingles, what we don't use or talk about. We have a meeting after the show, it's the only meeting that we ever have and it is called post-mortem and we discuss things like this... He says I've not heard for last year and half though we told you so on no agenda. So good jingle like this should be brought back he says! So this was during the period that JC was doing the books and he researched and researched a lot of stuff on what we do. Would you like to hear it just as a nostalgic sound? Yes, we can play it. Play it so we know... No that wasn't the one! Yeah I think- That's a newer version The older one was annoying. We told you so! Now watch. That's the one we did

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2:12:40 And remember to tweet out a picture of your certificate. We haven't had a lot of nights lately. That's true, we have not had a lot. I do want go back pre-segment just say one more thing about native advertising which they did mention in the newsletter but i forgot to mention during my spiel...I do think that we get the point but yeah No you don't get this point Which is it's the millennials It's the millennials that have driven native advertising. And we give a story, JC Buzzkill Jr., I remember when he was little kid or actually in high school maybe and he would talk about his generation as being a generation that was... He would brag about this and it seems that they all believed this. They were a generation because of whatever however they're brought up, I'm not sure what they're trying to prove by saying this, that was immune

2:13:36 to advertising. Oh, it didn't work on them? Yeah. Right. So we're immune to advertising and so we were independent thinkers and native... Bull crap! They are not immune to native advertising. Native advertising is for them and you'll find all millennials even the ones that listen are all in for one thing. Oh, Vice! Did you see the last Vice video? Vice, Vice, Vice... They're big fans of Vice and Vice which is a native advertising operation is just one of the many things where if you find out what they like it's always something that there's a product involved but they don't even know they're being... They are suckers! And I think I mentioned this before that the dead giveaway is what Vice is paying their crews

2:14:24 Everyone I hear who have spoken to has worked for Vice, and it's like man those guys got budget. It's all cool They don't care about it Let me tell you something if you're in a pure Advertising play business there is no budget the whole idea is to create content as cheaply as possible Now the whole point is to create great content that obfuscates The fact that its native advertising That's why there's budgets yes one of those beyond There's money I got a little clip blitz John, want to do a couple of elections. Ooh, clip blitz! Elections 2016 some clip... some clip blitz things here Let me see first of all I'm very sad very sad very sad that the guy that I liked the guy who I thought was best or most interesting during the Democratic debates Jim Webb has decided to cut out and I can pick him can't I? Some people say

2:15:26 I'm a Republican who became a Democrat, but that I often sound like a Republican in a room full of Democrats or Democrat in a room full of Republicans. And actually, I take that as a compliment more people in this country call themselves political independence than either Republicans or Democrat. I happen to agree with them our country is more important than a label. Democrats and years past understood this, people like Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson Mike Mansfield John Kennedy among others. I know i'm going to hear this so let me be the first to say it. I fully accept that my views on many issues are not compatible with the power structure and the nominating base of the Democratic Party

2:16:14 That party is filled with millions of dedicated, hard-working Americans. But its hierarchy is not comfortable with many of the policies that I have laid forth and frankly on that comfortable with many of theirs. No kidding? For this reason, I'm withdrawing from any consideration of being the Democratic Party's nominee for the presidency This does not reduce in anyway my concerns or challenges facing our country I like that he said our country. That's kind of my hot button there. I provide the best leadership in order to meet these challenges or my intentions is to remain fully engaged Okay, so He's insinuating that he may run as an independent now with our inside information that Gary Johnson is planning on running Will we see some form of independent candidate debate? This is going to be very interesting

2:17:11 Because this is not what the system wants. The system wants red, blue right left... Yeah of course. Uh crats uh and uh You know, Dems and GOP. Because those are the guys who are going to get all the money from the Super PACS and everything else they're gonna spend it on advertising these people. I mean how much money did Gary Johnson spend as on his campaign as a libertarian last season? So you say...you're saying they will have no debate? Right if we actually what i'm saying All right well hopefully there'll be some outrage They would have to buy the time! Donald Trump did something very interesting

2:17:50 I'd say extremely interesting. He was able to needle Jeb Bush into responding to his brother, you know saying well look I don't know which way you want to how you want to twist this but George W Bush your brother was president when we were attacked so he's to blame. Hey you better leave it! He is the blame and... He never said that Okay, but let's the insinuation is there and Jeb Bush is responding and they're bringing out guns man. We hit let's see here is Sure top my Mike was it may a Michael Chertoff who? He ran TSA did he also run he was home no? Yeah Top guy so he comes on I guess he's with days. I think he's with Broll

2:18:45 And he's telling us, what I liked about this clip is he's rattling off this whole... You know, list of great things George W. Bush did for us but that all depends on your perspective if they're great or not. So let's be clear first of all a number the critical hijackers actually came into the country prior to President Bush assuming office this was a plot that was planned years in advance it unfolded over period of time fair point fair point there was no actionable intelligence that pointed specifically or even in general to an aviation plot of the kind that we saw Rolf is going to jump in.

2:19:38 patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks including recent surveillance the federal buildings in New York. Correct, so that would lead you if your gonna focus on that to look at federal buildings being surveilled on the ground my point is Wolf No, I know. Listen to his list. We had a system that needed to be repaired and President Bush did repair it There was no specific intelligence that pointed to the plot that actually happened But what did happen after the plot after that terrible day on September 11th And I was part of this Yeah we know you were part of it douche It swung into action

2:20:16 and immediately began to change the entire infrastructure of our defense. And we got great things for it! Listen to the list... We created much harder and tougher barriers to people coming in from overseas Right, screwed up immigration good work! We expanded our intelligence capability Spying on American citizens guilty or not? or not? We tore down the legal barriers that had prevented information sharing. Shut up slave! We're gonna share your information with the companies that you work with The president went into Afghanistan and pushed Al-Qaeda out of its safe haven. Wooo, poppies galore And by the way we discovered laboratories where they were experimenting with chemical weapons Oh, oh, laboratories And shut that down Yes All of us remember within a day or two after that terrible day the President got

2:21:02 in front of the World Trade Center, which was still smoking and said we're gonna bring justice to them or we're gonna bring them to justice. And he did it. Alright Michael Chertoff you are without any doubt far ahead of the pack and a ginormous douchebag! Yeah don't use that word sorry. What a dick Oh I realize that not everyone understands when we say brolf Does he I don't want you remind him why we say save broth dr. Fauci? Thanks so much as always for joining us Good to be here both Now Did he mention how much it cost the US economy and it probably is what responsible for sending in their tailspin in a recession has never ended No, of course not Of course not Oh But what would I love that I would kind of focus on oh

2:21:51 Here is the morning Joe show who are they're losing their crap because they finally discovering Donald Trump is from the future And we of course all knew this I know this clip. Yeah, it's a good one Let me show you something else BuzzFeed dug up an old quote from Donald Trump talking about a large-scale terror attack 19 months before 9 11 in his 2000 book The America We Deserve Trump wrote I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the 1993 Trade Center look like little kids playing with firecrackers. Trump also mentioned the mastermind of the attack, writing quote one day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden

2:22:37 is public enemy number one and US jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few new cycles later it's on to a new enemy and a new crisis Wait, wait. Okay hold on a second is this really Trump before 9-11? Have you read this? It's 2000 in his book. Are we making this up? Did you make this up Mika? Nick! I mean so Willie that was... 2000. In the book he wrote in the year 2000. Well it was published in 2000 and could have written 1999 probably. Exactly He might have been more precious. So what he predicted basically predicted these attacks from Osama Bin Laden

2:23:19 Well, we've had the world trade bombings in 93. We've had the embassy bombing right? In 98. The coal. I love how these guys are saying oh well of course it's so easy to see how he came to this conclusion like but they never came to the conclusion and then the coal as well so yeah. Obama was in there. Excuse me Osama. I love that little flub there where he confuses Obama for Osama. 98. Right. and the coal as well. So I think there was Obama, excuse me Osama bin Laden was in the atmosphere and he wrote about it in the book All right. Well, there's a bunch of...there's a sea change going on and I think that this sort of publicity for Trump is part of it because ABC who I've always claimed or said or observed they're all in for Bush all the time because Bush is a Floridian and Disney's in Florida as we talked about this. And Disney owns ABC yeah.

2:24:20 They're gonna start to give up on Bush if he doesn't start performing better. And every time that you turn around, he's not. He is getting into arguments about his brother... I agree with Trump. He looks weak. He has got a big giant head like steroids. Low T. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on steroids. So let's play this ABC... Well first there's this... Let's first play this little clip here. This is the ABC. David Muir making an offhanded comment. I just want to know if you can catch it or not when they bring up Hillary because Hillary is a target of theirs, and they're talking this is the end of their discussion about Biden dropping out of the whole race he's not going to go in ever

2:25:04 always be on the front lines and always fighting for all of us. And also, if you know Hillary Clinton, you know that she would like to see a Joe Biden endorsement and soon and see Joe Biden fighting for her. All right well we'll see about that in the meantime John stay with us because Republicans are now reacting to Biden's announcement too from one... The little comment was we'll see about that. Yeah, we'll see about that I thought that was this night comment Do you think that Biden is is hoping that Hillary will win and ask him to be vice president? There's no way Oh, there she wouldn't do it anyway So let's play This is the day this is where I see ABC who's very anti-trump all of a sudden kind of warming up to the guy a little huh because they have

2:25:46 He's ratings because Jeb Bush is zero ratings. Donald Trump is a loser so let's go with Trump may get nomination clip. Donald Trump tonight tweeting Biden made the right decision adding he'd rather run against Hillary Clinton because of her record and new numbers tonight prompting The Washington Post to ask, is it time to concede that Donald Trump is likely to win the nomination? And here they are, the new ABC News Washington poll numbers reflecting very strong numbers for Trump. 42% of Republicans now say they expect Trump to be the eventual nominee 43 percent say he has the best chance of winning the general election their top pick for strongest leader They also say he's best on immigration and the Republican who understands them best some very strong polling for Trump tonight

2:26:31 So John, here's the question. The Republican Party when they see these numbers do they think this could eventually be Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton? Well Republican leaders in this town have been in denial for a long time saying Trump cannot win the nomination you no longer hear that said with confidence they are starting to come to terms with the fact that he may be their nominee David He has been the frontrunner for three solid months This is no longer a flash in the pan All right John Carl with us tonight and John thank you Okay, I noticed something as well about a change in the tide for Donald Trump from the show that i have been obsessed with for the past few weeks

2:27:10 Housewives of Hollywood? The View. Oh yes, you know... This is Joy Behar and oh my what a difference a day makes! You know I'm starting to warm up to Trump a little bit now. Wait wait what?! Yes yeah yeah yeah. Well you are? Hold on, hold on! I'm not voting for him and i don't like the race. I love when people say that you know I'm not voting for him but he does have a point I hear this all the time. Well, you know, Shuri has a point but i would never vote for him. I don't agree with you guys all the time. Yeah yeah but... I'm not voting for him and I don't like the race baiting let's get that out of the way and he'll never replace my arousal feelings for Bernie but the guy is not as bad as the rest of them

2:27:55 First of all, he may not be pro-choice but Rubio for example believes no abortion even in the cases of rape and incest. Trump doesn't say that. He believes in single payer. He wants everybody to have health care from the government. That's what he agrees with Bernie. He believes in Bernie. I mean, look this up! I couldn't believe it! You know? But... and he was against the Iraq war and he said so in one of his books before 9-11 even happened So he was like Nostra Trumpus you know what I'm saying? Wait, but he said that book that it's gonna happen! He is not as bad as the rest on them team Ohhhh okay Joy Behar now

2:28:35 I did a little research because, it kicked off when i saw Joey Diaz on the Joe Rogan show. Joe Rogan Experience and Joey Diaz said something that... you know..I went to look and dig a little bit And didn't have to dig very far What are you digging for? Well, I don't want to tell you just yet. I'm setting it up Okay But I didn't have to go much further back than July of 2015 to find some stories, but well listen to this is a report from CNN. This is about the ground game

2:29:14 Because of course when you're, now Trump is pretty serious. He's got his policy papers out there even though people say he doesn't They may not be the way people want them to be but this tax plan is theirs immigration plan You know that he's got plans But he has a ground game and I caught this earlier or maybe four shows ago but let's listen to this and you'll see what I mean. employees in states holding the first four nominating contests and the operation is still growing. Our ground game is all over Iowa, New Hampshire all over South Carolina tremendous ground game. Iowa offers a unique challenge turning Trump superfans into committed caucus goers to make it happen

2:30:08 The campaign is teaching supporters how to caucus and organizing precinct captains to help deliver a victory. But the question remains, can Trump turn his poll numbers into actual votes? We attract people from all over we go to the population centers. We do the things that are necessary to get people out. We get the cards filled out, we put them into our database and then we get ready to crank up the ground game. Yeah bingo boom badda-bing! We just put him into the database, we get it all good. Did you hear that guy earlier? We're all doing our part. That's a guy getting signs out of his trunk at Iowa. We're all doing our part alright and then...

2:30:49 a clip earlier, couple weeks ago. I think it's really gross in all honesty that Hillary is talking about raising $2 billion. Hillary is talking about raising 2 billion dollars to win the presidency. Others with 100 million dollar super PACS. Super PACs John these are goombas Donald Trump has had notorious ties to organized crime to the mob. Of course But no one is bringing this up Well, that's because he probably has an answer for it. No no no I think they're afraid? This is the most recent thing i could find was a video on July 31st

2:31:34 talking about Donald Trump's glittering empire of New York skyscrapers and Atlantic City casinos have long had a darker side, allegations the mob helped build them. I mean yeah come on are you kidding me? You're gonna build in New York City and you're not dealing with the concrete business not dealing with the mob? Of course he is! Why is this not even brought up why? I don't know... And this kind of brings- I can think of a couple reasons why you wouldn't bring it up if you don't have any.. He has done a really good job of staying away, you know he's not hanging out with the mob bosses when most of them are gone. But listen to the guys he's got with their super packs! I know they sound a little mobbed up... They're all the guys yeah we got it here in Iowa We've got everyone doing our part Everyone is doing our part They're the Mob Guy It reminded me of the movie What is the damn movie? The member of the movie where they ummm..the mob went in and they kidnapped people who were Nielsen Holmes

2:32:38 And then they made everyone vote. Isn't that in The Sopranos? No, no it was a movie... What the hell was that in the chat room I know! Yeah and they had this- They were sitting with those people for weeks on end and then the mob guy had some kind of television show and it got the highest ratings because everyone's voting yes we watched it we watch it because the mob everywhere was sitting It reminds me of this maybe that's how the polling works Hey you're gonna say Trump right?! We don't want to get hurt over here I mean, it's at least worth discussing. Well you're discussing it right? But no one discusses this in mainstream are they afraid to say this nobody discusses anything that we discussed if Trump is if they want to get rid of Trump so badly why don't the Democrats bring this up why doesn't anyone say hey

2:33:27 You want to do that if you can get somebody that you have the goods on actually nominated. The Democrats might be behind the nomination and they got plenty of mob ties, and you can imagine with Hillary's but you wait till the last minute so your guy gets in. You don't give a crap about the other guy after that. You wouldn't do it early. You'd do it late when it counted. He is not going to get the nomination. Okay? Why not? They're going to get, this is a fractal. The exact same thing happened to Ronald Reagan in 1976 He was on his way to getting the nomination and they derailed him at the very end And then he got into the next go-round and I believe it's gonna be exactly the same thing that happens here The movie was the ratings game Starring Danny DeVito Rhea Perlman It was a comedy? Yeah Oh yeah yes it was a comedy That's a funny idea

2:34:39 There was a Simpsons that had similar storyline. Right, well I find it peculiar that this is... Okay or maybe it was a family guy? In the meantime the Democratic National Committee has approved and now they wanted to hold debate but they've approved a presidential town hall with Black Lives Matter told you these guys were up to no good So now we're gonna have a town hall with Hillary and I guess Bernie or maybe someone else. It's not going to be a full-on debate, but a town hall which they've approved okay we'll do that and they're gonna televise it for Black Lives Matter. Well still more than a year away before... Oh i know that's the annoying thing is we have to deal with this for so long it's so annoying all right

2:35:35 That's all I got for my clip. It wasn't much of a blitz you didn't come in with anything well I didn't know you didn't give me any openings because you had thematic stuff going on okay? Let's play I got just here's a couple Blitzy clips short shortened sweet this is an interesting story dead reporter in Turkey Oh, yes. I've heard this. A British journalist has been found dead in Turkey under mysterious circumstances and her colleagues are calling for an international investigation. Jacqueline Sutton, a former BBC journalist and Iraq country director for the Institute for War & Peace Reporting was reportedly found dead in the bathroom at Ataturk Airport in Istanbul over the weekend where she was supposed to board a flight to Iraq

2:36:20 Turkish media reported her death as a suicide, but her colleagues are questioning that account. Her predecessor at the Institute for War and Peace Reporting was killed in a car bomb attack in Iraq in May." So there's something these reporters have found out about Iraq that requires them to be assassinated? This woman, you know, supposedly committed suicide. Bull crap. Yeah I mean she was hanging it... She just left the store. I gotta hang myself in the airport It's such a great place to do that Hang yourself in the airport after you bought a ticket to get out of town Supposedly what she couldn't afford the upgrade or she couldn't afford... She missed her flight But she had $2200 with her turned out That they searched for

2:37:01 her dead body and she just went to the store, she had a couple bags. She was just shopping so you're shopping you got plenty of money and then hang yourself out in the blue yeah uh huh no so that they made that claim to me is like something's wrong there well we've had a couple interesting two-to-the head moments Lord Ashcroft this is the guy who Was going you know leaked that in his book he was going to reveal how David Cameron Put his wang into a dead pig's mouth Lord Ashcroft What I vaguely remember this tale

2:37:40 Well, this is only from a few weeks ago. But he was going to launch a book and so he leaked this like oh this is gonna be in my book and then all of the sudden he gets septic shock liver and kidney failure and he misses the launch of his own book hmm maybe that wasn't such a good idea or you never want to hear this when your Pope The story is splashed across the front page of Italy's quotidiano nazionale Pope Francis is sick the paper says The report claims the 78-year old pontiff has a benign brain tumor that a Japanese medical team secretly visited the Pope some months ago and spotted the tumor, saying it was treatable without surgery.

2:38:22 But according to Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi, the story is not only untrue. It's reprehensible No Japanese doctor has been to the Vatican to visit the Pope There have been no examinations such as those written about in the article The officers responsible have confirmed to me there were no helicopter flights into the Vatican from outside Even in the month of January unless they were ghosts they weren't seen Lombardi says that while the Pope does have some leg pain because of sciatica, he's in good health. The Japanese doctor cited in the newspaper is reportedly based in the US but hasn't commented on story. Lombardi however is being outspoken He says such misinformation about the Pope has to stop You know I think this a warning shot across the bow for the Pope Well that would be our basic thesis when these things happen Why isn't the Pope saying... I'm okay! Climate shine

2:39:19 I'm not poor That's what he should have done. No, he has a spokeshole come out and say it no no This is not good this does not bode well because you know oh well gee I guess It's the old you know the poison in the ring into the chalice there you go goodbye Pope We know very little about relapsing Ebola at this point because this is very much frontier science. Frontier science, y'all? This is a new term! Because Ebola has returned! They were baffled when they saw Pauline Caffer go back into treatment again because it was 10 months after she'd recovered

2:38:22 But according to Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi, the story is not only untrue. It's reprehensible No Japanese doctor has been to the Vatican to visit the Pope There have been no examinations such as those written about in the article The officers responsible have confirmed to me there were no helicopter flights into the Vatican from outside Even in the month of January unless they were ghosts they weren't seen Lombardi says that while the Pope does have some leg pain because of sciatica, he's in good health. The Japanese doctor cited in the newspaper is reportedly based in the US but hasn't commented on story. Lombardi however is being outspoken He says such misinformation about the Pope has to stop You know I think this a warning shot across the bow for the Pope Well that would be our basic thesis when these things happen Why isn't the Pope saying... I'm okay! Climate shine

2:39:19 I'm not poor That's what he should have done. No, he has a spokeshole come out and say it no no This is not good this does not bode well because you know oh well gee I guess It's the old you know the poison in the ring into the chalice there you go goodbye Pope We know very little about relapsing Ebola at this point because this is very much frontier science. Frontier science, y'all? This is a new term! Because Ebola has returned! They were baffled when they saw Pauline Caffer go back into treatment again because it was 10 months after she'd recovered

2:40:03 recovered from the Ebola virus. Now, doctors in the field in Sierra Leone are saying this was not an isolated case or it may not have been an isolated case they say there have been a number of mysterious deaths in Ebola clinics among survivors who've left the clinics and then come back complaining of various symptoms from respiratory problems to Ebola symptoms again too severe constipation and handfuls them have died For the 17,000 Ebola survivors across West Africa this is devastating news. Not only have they had to live with stigmatization and marginalisation for months now people are accusing them of potentially harbouring a virus and infecting other people You know what I think? We should send more troops to Western Africa More troops! Do we have 3500 there now already? And Ebola never really happened

2:40:58 Didn't really pop out the way we expected not everybody died and now oh Well turns out ten months later You can still have it and you can still and we have a nurse in central London with Ebola who's been walking around visiting schools hmm More troops. Something's up with this story, I agree with that. More troops! It's more troops we've got the pipeline, the Cameroon... You know there not gonna be an announcement if there is going to be more troops this will not be a news item it's gonna be somewhere you have to read stars and stripes or something to find it out well it will be in news item on your NO Agenda show Well I've got two things I can do

2:41:37 to finish the show off. I got some great tech news which we'll do on Sunday, Sunday's Tech News Day! Got a great tech news segment you're gonna love it. I have apparently well i'm going to save this one...I think I want to do this London story because it's something Americans are unfamiliar with You've talked about it We talk about on the show once in a while that London The capital of the UK and the City of London. It's separate? A small little operation inside London proper Has its own mayor, its own everything right? Its a complete... It is all different. It's a whole country. It's explained a little bit to the Chinese on CCTV because apparently the city of London has decided to do a deal with the Chinese that is outside whatever else goes on with Cameron

2:42:27 and the rest of the UK. And they explain a little bit about London, the city of London here and I want to point out to people that as this report is read by or discussed by the Chinese...it's not a Chinese guy, it was a Brit when you say City of London And London, you are talking about two different things. One of the most important speeches President Xi will give during his state visit to the UK will be in Britain's financial center, the City of London. Richard Bestek has been down to the city to find out what they want to hear

2:43:07 It'll be here at the Guild Hall in the ancient City of London's financial centre that the President will be guest-of-honour at his second banquet of this state visit. The City of London is effectively a city state within the UK capital, boasting many of its own bylaws and privileges dating back centuries. The audience gathered in this august chamber will be very much looking to the future and clues from the President on ways in which they can work with the Chinese currency, the renminbi. So I've come down to the City of London to find out what the President's audience hope he'll say and what they actually anticipate. Mark Beaulieu is the City of London's policy chief

2:43:53 I'm sure that the city will want to hear that developments between China and Britain have been excellent over the last few years, much stronger relationships. We now have London as a leading offshore centre for renminbi trading. We have Chinese banks rapidly expanding in London. We have investment from Chinese life companies and other institutions in London. So we'll want to hear acknowledgment this has all been very successful And we want to hear that there's a bit more scope for things going the other way as well because British institutions would like to do much more in China. The City of London will be looking at ways in which it can work more closely with the Chinese and the internationalization of the Chinese currency, the renminbi?

2:44:35 Many city institutions have relationships with Chinese institutions. There is going to be a number of signing ceremonies this week, a memorandum of understanding about developing stronger links. The Chinese financial system is undergoing significant reform – it's very large but it is not fully internationalized. We want to see that happen as do the Chinese authorities, it's a question of the time scale and getting it right. It's not something that's easy to do and we're very keen to work with our Chinese counterparts on how are the markets can best be opened up? How there can be better cooperation and collaboration this is going to be highly beneficial both London and China

2:45:17 If they can pull it off, working with China and the Chinese currency, the renminbi should help cement the City of London's role as Europe's and arguably the world's paramount financial centre. It all depends on course on what the President has to say. Richard Bestakes CCTV in the City of London Your analysis Mr Dvorak? Well my analysis somethings up! This is not being reported anywhere. Now he goes to the UK and he goes to London, and he has meetings and he has a big state dinner then he has his second state dinner in this... And they show this place, Gilded Hall or whatever it's called? Gilded is the right word. Beautiful!

2:46:04 huge and is he right in the city of london is gonna have a dinner there and this is like going to use my going to you know uh... real this is the real deal when it comes still like this shadow government sort of thing right and this has to do i believe with the creating I think they're starting to free...I think the world financiers, especially the Brits even though there are buddies. I think they're freaking out a little bit about where we're going with the dollar and some of these schemes and sending all these refugees over to Europe and you got them into it. I think they're getting tired of us. I think we've gotta be careful. Well not only that but but we've beaten them down. I mean Deutsche Bank is on the brink of collapse

2:46:50 All the European banks, they're all screwed. The regulation is no longer beneficial and I think...I was going to say that the main thing as strange as it sounds The main thing that needs to happen right now is this T-TIP. You know, the TPP which I guess is fast track... It'll happen it's going to happen while everybody's yelling new world order when that happens That is going to turn America back into a powerhouse We need to be able to produce and send things for free over to other countries. And it's the only way the dollar I think is sustainable, it's not going to be on oil anymore what else could it be? It's just musical chairs everyone's running around. Well they're definitely freaked out. I don't know how you see it but... Well I see it similarly

2:47:47 I do know that we're always scheming and we've always got the best ideas, and so far as this is all concerned. We've got it...I mean, we always come out at the winner. Yes! And I don't see that changing anytime soon. You know why? America my friend, America. It's hard to say why it could be. We're America. Yeah well all the smart bankers know that were are ones to back. Okay, I am going to Collapse yeah it sounds like it. Yeah It's never been this bad that really affected my voice well actually didn't you got through it pretty? Well, I think if nobody ever heard the show and they wouldn't think you were sick well And he did a good job of covering up most of your coughing and gagging yes Then there was a lot of it believe me You don't have a button though do ya? Yeah, I do just not easy to reach

2:48:50 Oh, but final news Caitlyn Jenner Glamour Magazine's Woman of the Year We're all gonna die Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in downtown Austin, Tejas. The Crackpot Condo In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we don't have mold Well we do but it's not that mold Uh...I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday Please remember us at dvorak dot org slash N-A We are your NOAAgenda Until then Adios mofos! And now it's time for 3 by 3

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