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00:00 And so you buy these intangibles and you get nothing, really. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday May 28th 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination This is episode 725 This is no agenda Still high and dry, and broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 in downtown Austin. Capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're wishing for rain...I'm John C. DeVore You know? We have not used our rain sticks recently

00:38 I don't think the times now well not for me, but for you perhaps yeah. Maybe yeah, okay? Yeah It was pretty bad there. I think there's 12 people dead another 13 or 14 missing there you go That's a ticket nice Anyway, I was saying it's pretty bad here complaining letters later hmm. It was bad He has a bunch of dead people and dead people and terrible Lamar was flooded the other day when is going on with all that oh Although, this is by no means unprecedented. No of course not especially down there in those flood plains they're all over the place people build they would get flooded out and then somebody some kind I guess a developer comes along says look at all this cool property let's build another housing track down here but um... But of course when i'm an it took a little while but what i'm getting is all kinds of emails are you okay?

01:34 From Europe obviously but also from the US. Yeah, you look at the footage You think I can barely keep my chin above water here But downtown like in the 60th floor or something on a massive skyscraper downtown 78 what are you talking about? Yeah now but even here in front it's everything's pretty good But it is expected to rain for the rest of the month and probably into halfway through June a month that you're kidding Yeah, I know Wow. I'm sorry yes two more days now and well into June will see we'll see

02:11 That's right. The month is almost over, but you know what this is all about obviously Well I have a clip that tells you what it's about. I have a clip that tells us What its about too? We'll play yours first. What is it? Let's see...I'm looking for it. I've got to many clips Texas floods I guess. Ken Bell of San Marcos Texas the heat wave and floods came as protests against the fossil fuel company Wait a minute! What heat wave?! She says it's a heatwave and floods She continues to talk, you'll understand why she said heatwave. So I'm going to ask you now...you're there? Is there a heat wave so the rain coming down is hot? Yes it's scalding my skin! No of course not although we...the typical Austin weather this is not abnormal You have rain and its 75 one day just storm crazy and then the next day It rains in the morning then it's 92 degrees And then it goes down again This is Austin this what happens

03:03 happens, but heatwave? No. Affirm that there's a heat wave in San Marcos. Let me start this 45 minutes from here I cut the San Marcos guy out, but I'm doing the transitions where she Associates the flooding with oil refineries and guess what? Yeah, I know Ken Bell of San Marcos Texas The heat wave and floods came as protests against the fossil fuel companies largely responsible for climate change face protests across the United States

03:41 On Sunday, in Santa Barbara, California, residents protested a major oil spill which has killed wildlife and soiled beaches. In Bellingham, Washington, two protesters suspended themselves from the anchor chain of a ship to oppose Shell's plans to drill for oil in the Arctic Chiara D'Angelo hung from the anchor of The Arctic Challenger from Friday till Monday morning, while fellow protester Matt Fuller joined her for 22 hours on Saturday and Sunday. Meanwhile, the University of Hawaii has voted to divest its $66 million endowment from fossil fuels—becoming the largest university to heed the growing divestment movement to date. OK. All right. Got it. May I play mine?

04:22 Oh yeah. I got a couple, since we're starting off on the Agenda 21 climate change stuff might as well go power through it...I know I promised not to do it but is very hard! Oh no. Yes you know who it is? I know who it is. Chris Matthews from MSNBC. I thought it was the other one. According to the National Climate Assessment, climate change contributes to harsh weather conditions like the flooding in Texas and the drought in California happening right now experts predict changing extremes of precipitation are projected across all seasons including higher likelihoods both increasing heavy rain and snow events and more intense droughts all at the same time All at the same time John! All at the same time! Columbia University Dr Jeffrey Sykes

05:07 Dr. Sachs, when you look at these two situations I'm just going to free-flow it here in terms of information what do you see in terms of the terrible... This is from Columbia University this entire division or department whatever you call it is dedicated to educating people about the dangers of man-made climate change. Which consistently now, I need to point it out again, has been shortened from global warming, man made global warming, man made climate change... ...to climate change! And I can't argue that climate change happens absolutely but somehow in the vernacular we've dropped the man-made part, which is very tricky.

06:15 Now here's what happened. The president has his new Twitter account which... Wait, can I stop you and throw a clip in the middle? Of course! Now you've brought up a question in my mind because we hear these guys constantly predicting one thing or another and then Well, play the clip Hurricane Season. Yeah this is a goodie We're just five days away from the official start of hurricane season but the good news is it's supposed to be weaker than usual with government forecasters predicting only three to six hurricanes in The Atlantic this year and it's possible that none of them will reach category 3 or higher I like the restatement What? Nothing will reach category three or higher which is not really devastating It shouldn't be

06:58 Wait a minute. I was under the impression after Katrina that we were going to have nothing but worsening hurricanes year, after year, after year...to the point where because of global warming man-made and now who's seen nothing and then we're gonna have another dud year? This doesn't make any sense at all! So i put it in the show notes link to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration And they have just changed their forecast. And this is also a forecast, below normal Atlantic hurricane season is likely this year." Look at the weasel words...likely but these were the same people who predicted it would be horrible. Dr. Kahney Can I throw in...same pick of people? I'm going to throw on a little observation here about and if I was on the other side of this debate, I think they made a huge mistake

07:51 There was, when the debate began which was during the Katrina period I believe or maybe before when people started getting skeptical because the numbers weren't adding up. They... Adam Chapnick Katrina or Superstorm Sandy? John Maher No, no, Katrina we're going way back. Superstorm Sandy was just a weasel word thing for storm that hit too far north in flood zones. Adam Chapnick Well they called it a super storm so the insurance companies didn't have to pay out but now in general people call it hurricane. The moment that they...if you remember early on, in fact it was probably during the first couple of years of our show where they would constantly say weather isn't climate. Weather isn't climate and then one day because things were working out for their argument because it was hot, there's a hot summer or it was unseasonably hot someplace

08:45 They began to accept, yeah. Yeah this is proof! This weather pattern is proof that it's climate change. It's proof so now all of a sudden weather became climate they got themselves into nothing but trouble ever since they accepted that idea that whether was somehow related to climate change when initially they said no just don't pay attention to that well sure they got themselves in hot water but with who? The normal shitisan on the street. Themselves! Yeah, like anybody cares the normal shitisan on the street It's hard to imagine climate, but when you have a storm or drought or heat wave then you can imagine climate. Or you can imagine the effects of man-made climate change or climate change I think it was a blunder. I don't care about the man on the street buying into it because the man on the streets also makes the observation hey wait a minute is freezing out we had a couple years with this horrible winters But that has also been

09:43 rectified by saying, oh that's the polar vortex and this is normal to be expected. That's how it works you can always expect extremes. Yeah they're right on message they messed it up I agree but that's for people like you and I who gives a crap about us. But this is... Well that's true This is uh.. The president has his tweeter account at POTUS so yeah I want to see what he's doing so I'm following him I'm one of the millions And he tweeted something reminded me, we both kind of had missed or maybe we didn't highlight it enough. I can't really remember on two shows ago when he was at the Naval Academy. Listen to what he's saying about climate change... Is this a naval or coast guard? A Coast Guard. Thank you

10:29 Listen closely what he says about denying climate change. is one of those most severe threats. So I'm here today to say that climate change constitutes a serious threat to global security. I do want to mention that i shortened this significantly by cutting out all the dramatic pauses because it's just unlistenable otherwise An immediate risk to our national security and make no mistake, It will impact how our military defends our country And so we need to act and we need to act now

11:08 After all, isn't that the true hallmark of leadership? When you're on deck standing your watch, you stay vigilant. You plan for every contingency and if you see storm clouds gathering or dangerous shoals ahead... ...you don't sit back and do nothing! You take action to protect your ship, to keep your crew safe Anything less is negligence It is a dereliction of duty And so too with climate change Denying it or refusing to deal with it endangers our national security. And that is the line that the president tweeted on May 20th, that I only just recently came into. So when you say denying climate change endangers our national security... That would make you and I—although we don't deny climate change, we deny man-made climate change—makes us enemies of the state!

12:04 by that stupid definition, yes. It would also make that anybody who's in the Coast Guard who doesn't kowtow to whatever the climate change people promote they're committing dereliction of duty which we did discuss... We talked about the dereliction of duty. To the extent you want them to do. I just wanna point it out That's what do you think these cadets are I mean if you're sitting out there in the audience and you're hearing this nuts nutty stuff You can our press than this is insane. No, they're not thinking that they're thinking They are no they're thinking I'm gonna get laid tonight. That's all their thinking well There's dad boy graduates. I wish this guy'd get it over with Any tension? I'm sure here is a but just one of them. I'll just power through him all get out of the way

12:54 And by the way, we're waiting for the Pope's interfaith cyclical Ciclamani Mudaba, his memo. to Catholics all over the world. This Pope guy, you know just like we... Turn off the lights is what it's gonna be. Yeah don't watch television true That would be good Young Turks this is they used to be on television now they have by Chunk's own account of the most popular most watched YouTube channel show Is that still on? Yes It is Now this does not feature Chunk But this is three guys in the Young Turks, I guess they have a number of shows and they are talking about how republic networks are. How Republicans deny climate change again? Again, I don't deny climate change. I'm happy that they've moved to that so I can't be thrown in jail for denying it So we understand that Republicans and Democrats defer on you know Climate Change or what should be done about it And whether or not

13:51 Not that they even trust the science itself, but apparently if you dig a little bit below the surface there are much more interesting numbers there. And it's not about the difference between Republicans and Democrats but between Republicans and insane right-wing Tea Parties. I mean these aren't 10 year olds who haven't taken classes yet, these are 50s 60 70 year olds who have grown up and just don't trust what trained professionals say. understand. We trust that 30,000 scientists many of which are climate scientists wrote the letter and nobody pays any attention to it we pay attention to all the hearings where they come out and say no that's not true that's not true that's not true and then the head guy in committee hearing says oh its all true! We pay more attention than these guys do

14:35 who have grown up and just don't trust what trained professionals are saying. I just don't understand people that would not trust an expert in a given field, not everybody's correct obviously but as the general theme of experts if you were to throw out your back you would go to a chiropractor probably No you wouldn't you wouldn't go to a say uh... podiatrist i love the analogy really good dude who's an expert in different part of the body well we live in a country that believes in the literal existence of angels and believes in psychics and believes black hole might have swallowed flight three seventy like they have a lot of crazy beliefs about it usually those are relatively possible those are usually pretty harmless but here were talking about something where

15:17 even if we marshal all of our economic power and influence worldwide to do something about it as a country, we might not be able to stop at this point. But we have to at least try and yokels are stopping us from doing that. Yokels? I guess they're yokel... Yeah! I want to play a clip here. This is good because i got the clips that... Why don't I finish this and then you will go ahead with that one still going yeah oh you stopped your own clip yet to say I don't know, go on. They're just so ridiculous it's funny to look at them... No no, I want to hear the rest of this. This is media deconstruction at its finest but this was a six minute segment so I only got 30 seconds left So that's a big problem and i think that stems for a lot from misinformation It also stems from-I've said this before This isn't scientific, this is my guess You know they learn bad ways of thinking because they are overly religious so they learned how to push facts out of their way Overly religious people can't think straight Somebody explain

16:15 The difference between a progressive and conservatives views of solutions to problems is thus. Conservatives think their solution works because it's the right solution, progressives think their solution is the right solution because it works. So those are two different things Just listen to the punchline just wait for the punch line. Just wait The punch line is what these guys say to me those are two different things, right? It's a bit long if it on about your sticker But I like it yeah, but you can put it on a t-shirt and then stuff it up your ass you fuck face anyway That's logical I Have two clips. I had to play yeah that kind of play right into what these idiots are talking about and I will call them Idiots tyt young Turks something Young Turks television, okay? Oh makes sense

17:08 Here's Jules Feiffer who was at a presentation, he won some award. He is very famous left-wing progressive communist. comic strip guy from the 50s and 60s, very popular during the 60's in particular. And he... people can look him up and he made a very interesting comment here which I think applies to what these guys are talking about. It had to do with how you know the use of language official or non-official language it's uh..you know um...the distrust for government and the contempt for government, and hatred for government that we now find with the Tea Party on the right really began on the American left. And it was that belief from the American left that nothing they tell you is the truth, nothing governments says is true was what I believed in part to be so. There was enough evidence to back it up at a time when I was starting

18:08 There were nuclear tests, underground nuclear tests. And the government was always bringing out statistics to show there were no harmful effects of radiation from these leaks that came from these nuclear tests as sheep and cattle are falling over in Out West and John Wayne eventually got cancer from working out there you know? So I did a cartoon called Boom on which the government is announcing as people fall over, that there are no harmful effects of radiation. And to take the language we use to fool people, to lie to people, to mislead people and to satirize way out-of-hand... To make it funny what was really going on in a way that would make people I hoped think about it and consider it

19:02 Now, that reminds me of a very famous bumper sticker that used to be passed around the progressive left environment in the Berkeley area which was question authority. And so it's just simple bumper sticker you used to see on cars. Oh yeah back in the day sure. Question authority but these guys are all-in and I think Pfeiffer makes a point is that they flip flopped here and people that use...the opinions of the Tea Party are pretty much the way the opinions were for our left back in the day and as these two guys, or three guys at the Young Turk show go on about crazy religious people if you haven't noticed there's a bunch of shows especially on PBS

19:46 ancient peoples and ancient wisdom, and all these things which is kind of a new form of religion for these people. They abnegate Christianity but they promote the idea that people living in a mud hut in Guinea have ancient wisdom that we should pay attention to. Right! But by the same token if I say hey, these hieroglyphics on this wall drawings show there were visitors from outer space then you're crackpot Well, there's all these elements but the one that got to me... There is a new show on PBS called Standing On Sacred Ground.

20:22 And it goes on and on with these people, and they do have those myths that you're talking about. But they don't push that part of it... They come up with new ways to reinterpret all this. And this is the outro to the show! They're playing the rolling credits, and they're going to promote the next show coming up. What little element do you think they just throw in? Because apparently ancient peoples were thinking about this. Oh, about the big climate change. Well, let's see. Next time on Standing On Sacred Ground Highland cultures in Ethiopia and Peru reveal ancient wisdom and show modern courage fighting intolerance and climate change For more information log on to standingonsacredground.org Okay because are you kidding me?

21:16 Because of all of that co2 emissions from the factories in the sacred ground. Ah, dumb Well you know I think we've seen this go in waves John and I'm sure it goes along with money being released Now we have this big push You've got that Columbia outfit chiming in the president with his hey denying It is the effects on national security And so as well a brand new show I believe its on Discovery Neil deGrasse Tyson And this of course is the tech horny's real doll, if you will. The tech horny just loves this guy and he's the director

21:54 What is the planetarium in New York? Hayden. Hayden, right. One of them And he is an astrophysicist? This guy runs a planetarium let's put it out Yeah he shines the light on the ceiling Is it... I mean I either demeaned that guy No no but he's an astrophysicist He's also a showboater Well this is the problem and he was on Charlie Rose so I watched this Most of it is just him laughing nervously. And I think Rose was even a little bit annoyed because he, DeGrasse Tyson comes up with these funny comebacks on, you know... Charlie Rose will set up just as an example. So we're all going to die from climate change and he'll come back and say well we're dead already! You know? Just bad jokes goes nowhere

22:39 But he is loved by the established... I'll just call them the tech horny because they also fall into a lot of this all in on man-made climate change. First, the question from Rose which I found to be fascinating taking it from Global warming, man-made global warming, man-made climate change, climate change deniers to science deniers. So now we're there! Charlie Rose no less! Do we have too many scientific deniers in our country? Or do we give too much prominence... Do we give too much prominence of the scientific deniers in our country?!

23:17 Let me just, the science is in. Now listen to this... Do we have too many scientific deniers in our country? Or do we give too much prominence to those who want to look the other way at science? There's some of those and dare I implicate Some elements of journalism in this because there's a journalistic ethos not to tell you what your ethos is. Oh, please I'm gonna tell you what you eat So now he's arrogant as well But as I understand it and it's been told to me the journalist obligation when writing a story is to give equal Column space to all sides Let me ask somebody who might actually be a professional in writing as a journalist John C Dvorak is this correct?

24:02 Not not completely you're supposed to do a balanced report is what he's talking about, but you don't give Necessarily right an equal. You have a point of view you have a point of view and it would you have a point of view? He just always gonna have one and some people who have slanted point of views And some people don't some people write objectively But typically there's a story to be told and there will be somebody that will say no It's not that way and you put them into the story, but you don't give them equal Okay, hold that thought and I will come back to you with more questions in a moment We're half to both into one of each side And if someone says the earth is round and someone says the earth is flat at some point You're gonna make a judgment this where there's it's flat people. It just flat-out wrong. I will not be giving them the attention we're wasting time and I'm not doing a service for

24:49 to in my role of informing the public. And so I think journalists are really smart people and they're highly educated and they're curious, they have a curiosity that kids have that they still have as adults it's the other kind of branch of curiosity manifested in society scientists and journalists and that's a great thing to have but at some point invest your brain energy to recognize when something is fringe and report it that way And so, when you do that people then are properly informed about what is and is not true. What is an emergent truth? What is a truth that's in doubt? What is something— Wait a minute. Emergent truth? A truth that has been refuted? Be responsible on that frontier! I think it will help my job certainly

25:42 So is that how you do it then? I don't know what he's talking about. What he is saying for, he's calling on his fellow questioners... He wants the journalists to just be good to him. Party line! Yes yes but he's actually asking people just ignore anything and they'll go back and use this, I've heard this before They go back and use the argument again. If you're talking about World War II, you don't give equal time to Hitler's perspective on the genocide! Who said that? Oh yeah I've heard it Isn't that kind of exactly what you need to figure out what that guy was thinking or how he made? No, this is a climate change guy. They mock everybody. You've heard it before on... I can't remember which we had a clip where somebody said the problem with the journalism is they should be all in! They shouldn't even be addressing any of these doubters. They shouldn't even be writing about them and they shouldn't even give many

26:38 attention. I mean, we should take the 30 000 real scientists as opposed to the people who are all in on this because very few of them have any science in their background...very few! And they just say let's just go for that you know just push with it because they were all gonna die which is why that Columbia boy don't have much time left yeah we need insurance every year there we were gonna was it past midpoint, oh we can if we don't do something by the end of this year 1999. We're all gonna die in 2000 comes along. We're all going to die is just I need to get cold it because you got a good role there but it's a few more things we need to listen to. We are all gonna die! Do I have this clip? Yes

27:21 I'm going to die? I don't remember. Was this one of your... Oh yes! Oh boy, I'm sorry i should have that handy. We're all gonna die!!! I'm gonna put that into my special bin right now. I'd forgotten about this gem very good John very good okay so Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about his hero Carl Sagan and how Carl Sagan was fantastic. Carl Sagan the guy who during the Iraq the first Kuwait-Iraq war came out and openly predicted that we're going to have a it's called the black something or other because the plumes from the oil wells are gonna go into the upper atmosphere cover the entire planet and kill us all? That Carl Sagan? Yeah, I think so. But what was interesting is... So Charlie Rose rolled out a piece of him, of course with his white Apple watch band What is wrong with you Charlie Rose

28:20 Interviewed him the last year that died the year that he died as Sagan was sick, and I believe that was a pretty famous Bit because he talked about dying etc. But Sagan gives a warning A real warning about science and interpretation And you know I'll stop it after After the Sagan bit and then we need to listen to Degrasse Tyson's interpretation of Sagan's words The little thing was big rotate here it is There's two kinds of dangers. One is what I just talked about, that we've arranged a society based on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology And this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces Who was running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don't know anything about it? The second reason

29:17 I'm worried about this, is that science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe with a fine understanding of human fallibility. If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority Then we're up for grabs, for the next charlatan political or religious who comes ambling along. It's a thing that Jefferson laid great stress on. There wasn't enough he said to enshrine some rights in the Constitution or Bill of Rights but people had to be educated and they had to practice their skepticism and education otherwise you don't run the government, the government runs us

30:13 Okay, your interpretation. Well that sounds pretty clear... Yeah! You should be skeptical you should question authority and in this case the authority is people like that say 90 even though they lie about it. Well here I have a philosophical question for you what so he said question authority on a topic is authority always determined by majority? Not necessarily not in the dictatorship Okay, well we don't live in a dictatorship. But is why is the authority so he's the president the authority? Is he a higher authority than Some on some matters I would think so who is the highest authority on climate change then that would be IPCC okay

31:00 So, questioning them would be the correct thing to do. Being skeptical always asking questions that...okay. And that's what people do and then they get demeaned for saying anything if you say anything bad about the IPCC oh! You're just a...you don't like science. Your science denier. Let us listen to the interpretation from Neil deGrasse Tyson. Charlie was at the same table? See he doesn't like these jokes Charlie. Same glasses? That's kind of spooky seeing him. I mean he is alive now as he was back then just but that was feeling sick Yeah, it was a famous interview idea yeah, you're great Charlie move on. Yeah Much longer than that 1996 1996 he died that year So yeah He said it better than any of us connecting science literacy with what it is to have an informed democracy if you want to take control of your fate and

31:57 You can't do it if you are misinformed or under-informed about what actually matters. And in this, the 21st century, it's going to matter." I think what he is saying is people who are against it or skeptical are just misinformed! Yeah that's kind of what he is saying He's he doesn't come in. Yeah, you're right doesn't come out and say but he's not saying hey wow gee I should have listened to him no none of that So just to carry on with the crazy about and say holy crap. I didn't think about it in those terms yeah I'm such an idiot. I think we should keep that Sagan clip because that's uh as you shouldn't he's an authority on

32:35 on black holes in the Middle East. He was one of the most popular pop scientists we've ever seen, I mean there's different ones that come and go but Degrasse Tyson wishes that was him. Oh yes! And he thinks he has taken his spot. I believe that Degrasse Tyson feels there is a vacuum to fill and he is what we call over de paart getilt Which means which is dutch for they boosted him up on the horse and he fell off on the other side Well, he's about to fall now bill nye the client in the climate guy or science guy another guy who wishes He was a high but he's making mistakes now

33:18 So he thinks that because, you know, he's hanging out with the president and he's seen as the climate guy. He is getting 35 grand for commencement speech at Rutgers. Amy Schumer which... She's funny. Rutgers paid him? Thirty-five grand I hear now it was what I heard Holy crap! Yeah, if he wouldn't go otherwise this guy he's all... Well they don't have a problem with not going if you're not paid but generally for commencement speeches you do them for gratis or for a phony baloney honorary degree Boy, I would do it for a phony baloney honorary degree in a heartbeat. Yeah! I do have the Connecticut School of Broadcasting diploma on my wall which was kind of deal like that. Does Amy Schumer show? And she's pretty funny as a comedian...I don't like the show very much

34:01 I think Comedy Central. And she did a whole bit with Bill Nye and was about the universe, and how women keep saying that's the universe telling me to buy avocados or something. But I'm just going to play the end of it where I think Bill Nye has jumped the shark on his own thinking that he can do anything Uh, because he gets so- they keep coming back to him saying oh no this is not what the universe is. The universe is... you know just whatever an electrical engineer would say or whatever the hell he is So here's the end. Episode of New Girl but it was preempted by this news coverage of this terrible cyclone where like everybody died It was so annoying

34:40 Then I just thought, like this is the universe's way of telling me... You watch New Girl on Hulu anyway. Don't pay for cable save your money for in-app purchases That just makes no fucking sense! It's bullshit So that's how the bit ends What? Yeah that's how the bid ends and of course he setting himself up for montages such as Climate change is real! That just makes no fucking sense it's bullshit Yes, exactly. He set himself up douche. Yeah send me those I can use them Moron moron moron moron the hell is wrong with you wake up get off your asses get out of the damn coma Okay, i'm good Although national geographic magazine is definitely one you want to pick up big article why do many reasonable people doubt science and

35:38 This is more of this, we've gone from climate denial. And when you think about it's really good to shift this into science denial because you can use that for anything! Yeah and no one questions this they just say and I just keep saying climate change maybe... harping too much on it, but... Well we got started on it and now we had a coincident number of clips so I think it worked out. Okay good good good Maybe FIFA? We got nowhere! We didn't really accomplish anything except ridicule these people once again and look like douchebags for doing that to some people. I do have two more Tyson clips that are not- But I think my Pfeiffer thing was important for the leftist who listens to our show to pay attention. Your Pfeiffer thing was very good

36:25 I do have two more Degrasse Tyson clips. I will play them later, they're not... Oh come on play them now let's get him out of the way Okay The first one is about, okay we could solve everything. We could make everything happen. We could have colonies on Mars All we need is money and this is his plea for cash It's only ever money Only ever money at all times. Are you supremely disappointed that we don't do more in space? I am really... the curiosity part of me is disappointed but the

37:01 The politically astute side of me fully understands why that's the case. We went to the moon because we have other priorities? No, no! No, no, no... There was a PR move you were telling us about. We've always had other priorities so that's it that's a false excuse when we went to the moon we had plenty of other priorities there was a civil rights movement there was the hot war in Southeast Asia the Cold War with Soviet Union right um campus unrest for PR we did it because we were at war with this oh wait we'd And that was an act of war, essentially. Without the weapons and if we were not at war the motivation to go to the moon? We tell ourselves oh we went to the moon because we're Americans and weird we're explorers it's in our DNA

37:43 OK, that might all be true but the people who write the checks don't give a rat's about any of this lofty speak. It is your security at risk? We will spend any amount of money to protect that and that is when money flows like rivers and we went to the moon in that moment. climate in that climate and should we create that kind of urgency again for something? That's interesting how Rose is saying, should we create that kind of urgency again. Like going to the moon? What do you think they've done with this terrorism crap? I joke...I say let me go visit China and whispered to the head of China

38:22 Can you leak a memo that says you want to put military bases on Mars? Go ahead. Don't tell anybody! That memo shows up in the Pentagon, we will be on Mars in 10 months I'm sure One month to design build and fund a spacecraft and nine months to get there We'll have astronauts...that's how motivated I think we would because that's how motivated we were back in the 1960s Okay There you go. Just nine months we could be living on Mars with bases final time now sure this sexuality It's in your DNA That's the question you should have answered here is the final clip and this this is disturbing

39:02 It turns out that Neil deGrasse Tyson is a kind of science fiction writing hack, although he claims he can't write. He doesn't know how to build characters but he's got a whole story and it sounds like he was almost there to pitch this. Oh yeah! And it's so reminiscent of what was the... now I've of course slipped my mind... the book about the from the dead author from Crichton State of fear. The state of state of fear reminds me a lot about this and here is... With the different twist, I'm sure not and it's not necessarily about climate change but another one of his favorite topics which pops up from time to time but you know i think his story might be someone might nibble on this because it's um it's it's the kind of thing that Hollywood loves. I've got a story! It's ready

39:59 I've got a good story and I could advise on such a story but in terms of character development and emotions, I don't have the experience. writing, certainly not writing it and probably also... But you would know a story that would be compelling. I have one in mind right now yeah i mean i can i'm happy to tell it i mean it's okay so the world is at war okay? You mean the world that we know is at war The world do we know is at war and in some very disruptive way not with large weapons but regional battles everywhere and people are choosing sides

40:38 and then an asteroid is discovered. Tell us what an asteroid is? Oh yeah, tell us what an asteroid is! It's in your DNA it's part of your sexuality. What?! Yeah he said tell us what an asteroid is! Yeah, yeah Rose needs to know. He was discovered. Tell us what an asteroid is... Oh yeah well an asteroid uh craggy chunk of rock of varying sizes there was countless tens of thousands of them probably hundreds of thousands of them and they were- By millions Mars and Jupiter, most of them. Some of them have wayward orbits that cross the orbit You do the math, you learn that Earth and these asteroids will collide with one another guaranteed eventually. Ideally you want to like put LoJack on them or something. Where are you? Hello 1980 calling we want our LoJack reference back! Now at this time it's 10pm do you know where your killer asteroid is? And so once you do that we learned there was an asteroid that could render us all extinct

41:38 And so at that moment... And what do you think happens in the script? Wow, gee. That story's never been told yet! What do you think happens next? What happens with all the... They throw a bomb on it or climate change is fixed now that Asteroid goes and misses No no no no no no no no no no no If there was an asteroid that could render us all extinct So at that moment everyone who sees other humans as their enemy then come together to see the asteroid Oh my god And the technology bits that have been developed all around these countries of the world, there's a bit in the future so that formerly developing countries are now technologically able and they've been developing their technology to fight wars. We find we have to assemble pieces of all these technologies... So you develop a common front against the asteroid? Not only a common front but we need different pieces of technology for the deflection device that we put together and heads-of-state come into play

42:33 the conflicts, not only within countries but between countries. It's run with that so it can be quite dramatic and maybe we can have a little piece of the asteroid still hit Earth just because you got to flood a city or something otherwise Hollywood doesn't buy this story. You gotta destroy some city! So these guys are delusional He's nuts! That clip right there. Yeah, it just I think if you had started with that I would have probably rejected you listening to any more Well, it's an art. Crazy. Yeah yeah on the Charlie Rose show Well, you know the guy has a like you said you mentioned it that tech what do they you had in tech horny? Tech horny check horneys the tech horn is I liked up to cornies. You can also just come to corneys to corny's to corny's to corny's sounds like a family It sounds like a reality TV and here we are with another day into his life of its corneas And now ladies and gentlemen, it's time to rejoin the two cornies All right, yeah guys insane

43:36 With that maybe I should thank you for your courage and say well, I think it's probably a good thing to do I'm in the morning to you John see where the sea stands for climate denial Dvorak either more into you Adam Curry in the morning all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs of The water and In all the dames and knights out there in the morning everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm You are loved here And in the morning to our artists Sarcastquatch brought us the artwork for episode 724. Now you recall episode 724, the title of that was Nice Fabric and we used an older piece which was I think initially used for the pollen tsunami but it looks so great as kind of Austin's buildings in a big tidal wave. Yeah all this flooding... That was nice, good work. It worked. Completely original artwork very nice like that a lot

44:29 Yes. And this program, well I was just going to say this program is completely created and produced by its listeners who we rightfully call producers and we always just like Hollywood like to thank the executive producers and associate executive producers who do the most to help us financially um...and we thank them up front in kind of opening credits first hour credits Yes, and we want to thank a number of people for contributing to show producership status. Starting with Mr T. You fool! I pitted the fool! He writes in his handwritten letter. Pennsylvania, I see. It's typed on our computer. Was this sent through the bank? Yeah there is a check. Nice Even though i'm a long time listener this my first time donating This is the way it goes by the way. I recommend anyone who first-time donates

45:24 $1,010.10 Holy mackerel! That's not bad Well let me give him a de-douching right off the bat without doing anything You've been de-douched My goodness nice This is every time I would tell myself that i'd finally send in to check or set up a recurring payment something always got in the way Fast forward to 2014 which was the shittiest year I've ever had instead of boring you with the details Let's just say realized early on that no agenda would would be my company during the 2001, 2014 shitstorm. A lot of typos here. I made a promise to myself that after everything was done and settled, I would donate what I could and that day has finally arrived with that said, I'd like to make an odd karma request. I'm pretty sure some time traveling karma helped me out last year. Could you please fire up the no agenda time machine and send some karma back in time? To the beginning of 2014, you have the sound effects

46:21 Make that work. I do? I consider the donation payment for the services already rendered! Thanks again for helping keep me sane And then he's got some other bookkeeping and some other things on his furtherance of the list, which he doesn't think... Okay. He wants some karma for that? You want some karma for it? Let's put the karma back in January 2014. Okay hold on we need to go back to January 2014 and we'll do that like this. January 2014 time for some Karma! We're now back in January. Yeah baby!

47:01 You've got karma. On the fly! There you go, on the fly. Alright good Thank you very much Mr T we'll be knighting you later Does he have any special knight name or is it just Mr T? No he doesn't Eric had lived one there Sir Pity The Fool but I'm gonna call him sir mr.t until he wants us to change Or maybe its just sir-T Sir-T right sir-T yeah obviously not sir mister-T sir-T yes sir-T Onward with Alex Button who is in San Francisco 333 33. Thanks for the show guys I was wondering if I get some jobs karma me and some extra karma from my future human resource Who is running late not wanting to come out to meet the world? I'm a longtime boner who started listening because of John on twit I now know I I Now do not know what I would listen to without you two Oh

47:55 And that's it? Yeah, he just said jobs. Jobs and babies. What'd you say? And babies? Oh yeah pop out karma. Pop out karma. John Cox in Adkins Texas $250 to be associate executive producer for shows 2 whatever it is What is the number? 2-725. I've got two, I'm still stuck in the past with you. Oh it didn't bring us back! I'm sorry hold on John we need to come back. Hold on do you guys seatbelt on? You'll need it. Back to 2015 yes. Makes sense. Sorry about that. Which pushes Alex as he's been a donor for a year now

48:48 John Cox in Adkins, Texas. $250. Thanks guys for all your hard work I do not think i've ever asked for anything so send me some karma Okay karma it is on its way You've got Karma Ask Cox if he's done accounting He might be a knight Sir Edward Sheets who is a knight in Brewerton New York 23456 Lads you rock Sorry, I have been out of the loop a bit. Pretty sure this makes my second knighthood. I'll lay out math below so if so please designate me as Sir Sheets of the Cuban Leaf. Cigar's a connoisseur... Wait a minute! So he's not- is he on the list? Well there's his second knighthood Ah, I got it He's already Sir Sheets but he wants to add his little Let me just make sure that's- I'm just doing the administration He wants to do a little embellishment

49:47 to adding Cuban leaf. Okay, so insert sheets of the Cuban leaf is still a naive... I got it. Anyway your analysis of global warming is spot on well that's what we talked about today coincidentally as much as most of your work Or all of these. He doesn't say anything like that. Thank you for what you do, may I please have a refreshing relationship karma? Please remember Cuban cigars and single Mott Scotch. Cuban Cigar, Single Malt Scotch. You have that on there I think? I do For all the tables or sheets then he's got his accounting and so we'll give him his karma I wish i had a sound effect people ask for this all the time I don't think we have a sound effect for relationship karma someone will have to make that because we desperately need it but here it is The Karma is valid you've got karma

50:44 You can have a kissing sound or like pop kiss you were the kiss and pop get a loud pops Yeah, that okay. All right. That's it. Oh, we don't need anything I'll do that from now on do that God yeah perfect yes Wow This on the fly late. That's right. That's right theater of the mind Tony Nist in Granite Bay California two three four five six to in a row I'm currently an undergrad.

51:21 Oh, at the University of Nevada Reno and couldn't possibly be more frustrated with the amount of douchebaggery I hear and witness on a daily basis on a college campus. My professors are for the most part all in and consistently bring up some of your favorite memes it astounds me that these are the people that i'm supposed to be learning from when they bring up such crisis as Ebola and ISIS on The Regular." This is a waste. Where did Ebola go? I don't know, it's funny because you mentioned that because i'm digging through my desk stuff here on the little podcasting desk and somebody sent me this little Ebola pin. It says hashtag tackle ebola and its one of those little ribbons

52:12 little ribbon thing. Yeah, that you put on your whatever you put it yeah and its got a bunch of its got the African flags or something on there stop eating when you wear that Ebola ends well it worked It worked? Yeah it worked Anyway he goes on I'm not scared about any about either only the future humanity if these memes continue to be propagated because they're all in they don't question authority here's to the first of hopefully many more donations and by the way this is student people Thank you guys so much for your courage. I like an L Sharpton boom shaka la- uh, L Sharpton bing boom boom shakalaka. It's Manning but that's okay, I know what he means But maybe he wants a Sharpton too If possible can i also get a douchebag call out from my good buddy Jarrett DOOCHBAG Jarrett Shaw Chuck's a douche bag who hit me in the mouth over a year ago

53:03 Keep up the amazing work, gents. Sincerely Tony Nist-Reno Nevada. All right well we'll do a big combo deal for him here. But resist we much! We must and we will much about that be committed. Boom shaka laka boom shaka laka boom shaka laka and boom shaka laka dingo boom boom shaka laka boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom You've got karma I Love that kid. I forgot about the first one the long long one to resist we much oh no No, the boom shark alaka. I don't think we've played that very well. That's why I don't remember it anyway That's our contributors a executive associate executive producers for show We're back in the present seven five 725 and want to remind people that we do have a show coming up

53:59 Sunday, I'll come Sunday. Sunday we're coming back. Quick PR mention from Scott McKenzie. Now Scott McKenzie has written several No Agenda theme based giblets. Giblets are purchasable on Amazon for your Kindle that's what we call it And you can also find all of his work at noagendanovels.com He says, Adam and John in the morning just letting you know I'm still doing my bit to propagate the formula with a new No Agenda short story called Conscience for Sale now Now in the Kindle store and he has a blurb we love the word blurb It's only Polly Benton second day working for a multinational outsourcing corporation when she gets the call to attend a meeting at the White House

54:42 The president can't decide whether the United States should go to war in the Middle East or not, so the vice-president is looking for ways to speed things up and cost is not an option. But it isn't really possible to outsource a decision to go to war? And what price is Polly willing to pay to further her career?" Nice, huh? That's funny. And it also says it so is linked in the show notes for the US store and the UK story says I've also just finished The first draft of the next no agenda novel which will be called The Boy with Involuntary Social Network Disorder I Love that I'll be reading that this weekend Scott's giblets are always fantastic really love them as hey This isn't new sound was like a crowbar this yeah now

55:28 No, it's too high for a cup. It's a crystal wine glass that I happen to have up here You mean you didn't take it down to wash it? Exactly! Never took it down to wash it And then I looked at and said wait a minute this may sound terrific Yeah there ya go vorac dot org slash n-a Thank you very much to our associates and associate execs Please continue to propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Just little on tomorrow the little story which also contains an admission

54:42 The president can't decide whether the United States should go to war in the Middle East or not, so the vice-president is looking for ways to speed things up and cost is not an option. But it isn't really possible to outsource a decision to go to war? And what price is Polly willing to pay to further her career?" Nice, huh? That's funny. And it also says it so is linked in the show notes for the US store and the UK story says I've also just finished The first draft of the next no agenda novel which will be called The Boy with Involuntary Social Network Disorder I Love that I'll be reading that this weekend Scott's giblets are always fantastic really love them as hey This isn't new sound was like a crowbar this yeah now

55:28 No, it's too high for a cup. It's a crystal wine glass that I happen to have up here You mean you didn't take it down to wash it? Exactly! Never took it down to wash it And then I looked at and said wait a minute this may sound terrific Yeah there ya go vorac dot org slash n-a Thank you very much to our associates and associate execs Please continue to propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Just little on tomorrow the little story which also contains an admission

56:17 Well, get ready for the admission. So I like having now that i'm living on my own and learning to have things not run out of things Ah yeah, I'm sure you have learned how to do this. Oh two years ago Yeah, well, but I'm a late comer late bloom when I was a kid. Hey, how are they bloomer? so from time to time and this is the admission y'all like to smoke a little bit of weed it's right there not like I used to Not like I used to but that so that's the admission there. Yeah, it was like if you know actually find it very handy If you have friends over The best way to get rid of them is hey let's smoke a joint and then they're like okay time to go home It works yeah, it works very well um so

57:04 I have to, you know...I don't know drug dealers or anything but there's this guy we'll call him Danny for all intents and purposes. And Danny is a weed dealer but he's more like a hippie guy kind of? You know he's always talking about one day it's gonna build this sustainable community and will live off wind power. Alright Danny fine that's all good thats great! But he also has all kinds of issues like child support payments and the guys messed up So I've been trying to get a bag from him for days. But, I don't want to run out and not that...I just want to have some in case I need it." So you began this thesis here on this little chit-chat you're giving us with the idea that you don't want to run out and I'm thinking well he looks in the refrigerator there's no milk. There is no butter when he first toasts, that kind of thing. And then you take this to some level that is really

58:02 It has nothing to do with any of this. No, it's just a fun story! Yeah okay well continue I'm sorry you probably thought it was being misled that's the only thing I'm completely... no I'm just giving you some background Okay Just getting a little bit of background and so finally he said okay I'm showing up and this was uh Tuesday or whatever And um so I go down and uh and he- So I meet him in the garage Of course And he hands me an envelope and I said, what is this man? It's like a little wet on the corner. Oh no don't worry about it was just some watermelon juice already in my watermelon juice. And I thought it was a little light but I just put him back pocket we're chatting away and you have to know his phone was broken so he could only reach me on Facebook Messenger next to the federal building on Wi-Fi and the guy's a mess

58:47 And so we're talking and having, you know 15 minutes. Yeah he's a nice guy and so I go upstairs and open it up as it wait a minute before I opened on the envelope It's addressed to the Attorney General of the United States. I think wow that's a good idea If you're driving around with some weed and get pulled over You know cop may not say oh let me open up this letter to the attorney general So I think wow Danny is really smart now open it up in it are two bank checks to the Attorney General. I guess it's child support payments or something, so i'm trying to reach the guy and I can't get a hold of him because he is driving back for 45 minutes and then it hits me... He has probably put my weed into the mailbox! I haven't heard back from him!"

59:36 Oh brother. Borderline shaggy dog story, but it definitely had a good punch line I can just imagine the Attorney General hey what's this? Bud yeah Shifting gears the Queen speech this is yes you know Yes, I was supposed to clip this. I didn't clip it but i'm glad you did Well, I did something maybe a little crazy what's going on over there Maybe is a little irregular why don't you explain? But give us some background The queen speech has already been kind of pre-telegraphed David Cameron and Jackie whatever her name is

1:00:15 Jackie Holmes, I forget her name. The of the interior she's kind of like the secretary of DHS and they're all evil and the Queen speech leads into new rules which will you know say things that are against British values. And of course, we played a very long clip of this Jackie woman on Radio 4 trying to explain...you know I know what extremism is when I see it or you know things everyone agrees with if you disagree with that's against British values now we have not seen the legislation yet and i didn't expect it but the way this works in the UK

1:00:52 is the Queen does her Queen's Speech, and in it she pretty much states all these things that are going to happen. And we have to be resilient against cyber attacks and just all kinds of stuff. But I love this theater! Even Brits who would call themselves Republicans—meaning they're not all-in on the monarchy— They all love what they call the big show. The Queen isn't really in charge of anything, and I wonder do people really have some kind of mask in front their faces

1:01:34 where, you know here's how it happens the sergeant at arms or whoever did whatever the British equivalent is walks into Parliament he says attention! The Queen wants you to all join her in the room. The Royal Hall boom-boom and then they all walk out behind the guy with a golden stick You know okay this is yeah It's still all just tradition if not that you're just being obedient slaves And then the queen does about 10 minutes of talking Now I cut this down To make a point to make a point and just listen to the words you can stop me whenever you want to John it's about a minute and a half uh, and I've cut it up this way. My Lords and members of the House of Commons my government will legislate in the interests of everyone in our country. My government will continue with its long-term plan to provide economic stability and security at every stage of life

1:02:26 My government will bring forward legislation to reform trade unions. My government will expand the troubled families programme. My government will secure the future of the National Health Service. My government will work to bring about a balanced economic recovery. My government will continue to legislate for high-speed rail links between different parts of the country My government will also bring forward legislation to secure a strong and lasting constitutional settlement. My government will continue to work in cooperation with the devolved administrations. My government will bring forward changes to the standing orders of the House of Commons.

1:03:07 renegotiate the United Kingdom's relationship with the European Union. My government will bring forward proposals for a British Bill of Rights, my Lords and members of the House of Commons. My government will continue to play a leading role in global affairs. My ministers will remain at the forefront... You get it right? Oh yeah, no hurry. My government. And do people not hear this? No. My lords, my governments Mine mine mine mine and it's either and the people who are anti-monarch The anti monarchists, and there's plenty of them in England lots of them

1:03:46 They're Republicans, they call them Republicans. They are very aware of this and that's what they're always bitching I mean why well if it's just a symbolic bull crap worth you know billions and billions of dollars for nice symbolism if it's just symbolically completely symbolic... Why all this my-my-my? Well not only that but why would you have these anti monarchists being so serious about getting rid of the monarchy It's just it's ludicrous. She did mention, she did say in there and I thought you were going to give this speech where she apparently decides that they're gonna renegotiate with the EU. She mentioned... Yeah it was in there

1:04:27 And she, I guess is giving them the go-ahead because Cameron ran it as a campaign promise that they're gonna have an in out vote. And now he has backup? Yeah, he's got backup. She's all in. But it is different renegotiate means you wanna stay in but you just want to have a better deal. Well that's what Cameron said. Cameron pretty much Weaseled his way into this in-out thing saying first they're gonna try to change the terms of the agreement And I think he wants to do that because if you can change it radically enough They'll still have the in-out vote, but now it will be easier not to vote out. To leave. And they're also switching...they got some deal where they're switching for yes I think yes doesn't mean leave Yes means stay in No means leave. I love that one! That's like the California...what was it? The gay marriage?

1:05:23 I forget what... We do that all the time. It was like Proposition 8 and you voted for it, you were actually against it is very confusing. That's what this... Very good. Staying in the EU or Euro land for a moment then this is the EU leaders have okayed military missions to halt Mediterranean migration first of all military mission so this seems more and more like there will be a European army and EU army And there's two documents. I won't go through them, but I did put...I marked them up and put them in the show notes. The idea is that the military is going to—and again you see Mediterranean migration not refugees from Libya people whose country had been destroyed and rubble-ized now. Yeah they're refugees. No no! They are migrants, not refugees. Heaven forbid we call them refugees because they're refugees

1:06:18 Representatives from the EU's 28 countries agreed on a joint initiative against boat smuggling migrants, which carry tens of thousands of people attempting the perilous journey from North Africa to Europe every single week. The idea is is to destroy the boats. Hopefully not if there are people on it." Yeah! They're going to blow them up into docks. In the document published last week, the European Commission announced a quota system to evenly distribute migrants... Who's trafficking? The EU is trafficking. Let's distribute our migrants, whoa! That's like Bitcoin. I never thought of it that way that's very funny That's actual-that's trafficking of human beings Yeah You guys over here you get 10 of these guys bring the ten over yeah Hold on a second let me see his teeth and his hooves let me see if he's any good It's reminiscent of times from past

1:07:09 So the system will evenly distribute migrants who arrive in Europe to relieve pressure off Italy. That's fantastic! This is human trafficking, you nailed it! The actual definition Yeah There you go so human trap under military rule with guns that's perfect Well because they're migrants. That's funny. So sad No one else really care. No one else know this is not, this is no agenda stuff. Meanwhile I'm watching talking about the sort of thing international

1:07:49 Affairs, Tom Hartman. Oh Thumb! Yeah Thumb is on the rampage Let me guess about the TPP? Well a little bit a little bit about the TPP especially the labeling laws he's come up I just have two clips I don't want to play The World Trade Club because they didn't do any research on whether how much horse shit He's delivering here but I realize that time is on the bandwagon because So he shows a picture of himself with his... actually, pretty gorgeous looking cat. But this is like a professional studio portrait of Tom with his cat. Somewhat creepy? It's very creepy but apparently the cats dead

1:08:29 and not in the picture, but play the Tom Hartman and his dead cat clip. And you wonder why he's on the rampage about labeling laws? It isn't! I mean yeah people are looking at how... The dollar trend is down like a third this year or something like that it's terrible But that does not have to do with poisoned food coming into the United States The World Trade Organization just ruled that you and i as Americans have the right to ask our government on our behalf to require labeling of country of origin. So we don't know where stuff is coming from and there are countries out there that use pesticides, that use hormones, that us herbicides, that use chemicals to promote growth and store foods that are illegal in the United States because they kill people because they cause cancer you know like I said my cat, my cat...you know we got some of that Chinese cat food and my cat, you know there's a picture of him he's dead

1:09:19 I mean, you know... tell that to my cat. Right? That had it been appropriately regulated Higgins would still be alive today. Higgins! Higgins from Magnum P.I.? Is that the...? Higgins yes. What a dick Higgins. I just got the biggest kick out of that so Chinese cat food kills Higgins Yeah, so he's not there by this you know is it so aware of things? He's buying Chinese cat food Yeah a memo dude once you give your cat the real food that the cat would be interested in and not canned crap Well, you know the it brings me to my daughter and there's a place in Berkeley that makes cat food Michael Butler makes great dog food. Yeah He makes dog treats Oh treats Okay By the way Michael Butler says hi when did you see him? I just went over his house the other day to pick if he is now they have Michael Butler Longtime friend of the show but also longtime friend John and I he's the rock-and-roll geek rock-and-roll geeks show these just is just one of the nicest guys in the world

1:10:17 He's just nice. He's genuinely nice and sweet. But he's a complainer, but a really nice guy. Well that's what he does yeah? And so you went over your son... Yeah he actually listens to the show I know! He never donates but he listens now Now he uh is decided to become an amateur butcher That makes total sense There's a lot of regulation involved To buying meat off the hoof And he got into it and then he read, I guess Michael Pollan's book and decided that he was never going to buy store-bought meat ever again. Haven't you purchased meat with him jointly in the past? Yeah.

1:10:56 just butchered himself, butchered a pig up in somewhere in Marin or Sonoma County. And he brought all this and he needs to get rid of some of it." So I threw in like 50 pounds of pig and so I went over his house to grab the meat and bring it back. That's what she said! In the process as I was packing the butchered meat and he's apologizing for not being a good butcher yet, even though he is taking classes. He said say hi to Adam! Oh okay. Say Hi back? Now don't you have... does he want to do that at home or doesn't he have to approve facilities? No I betcha' he can put the facilities up. He lives out in the middle of nowhere on the avenues Yes yes i know where he lives Way out there right at the end pretty close to the end yeah

1:11:49 Which is a foggy but pretty area. It's very nice yeah, and Yeah I think he at some point might do that now You know I'm trying to get him by pushing him toward learning the European style of butchery Oh which is different which is halal at this point There's two guys in the audience so get that joke The Jew and the Arab the French cuts are different than the American cuts of beef and pork and lamb. And some of those cuts are pretty interesting, and they let you cook differently." I just mentioned this to him hoping that maybe... Is it possible they expand on that? I've never heard of these difference in cuts. Oh yeah! The French cuts of meat or pretty much alien to what we... how we cut our meat

1:12:40 And it looks different. It's just cut differently, you know? You got an animal and you can...for example, just with a normal animal, you can cut T-bone steaks or you can cut little fillets in New Yorks. I mean there are two different kinds of cuts of the exact same piece of meat. Or porterhouse would be a better example. Do they have names? Yeah they do. I don't know any of them offhand. There is a bunch of things. Okay. I am genuinely interested There may be a butcher around there. A lot of butchers can do French cuts, and if you go to the old recipe books like the original Gastronomique or some of the very old Caramel and some of these really old French chefs and you read their books they talk about cuts then you go what the hell I don't know what this is? And it's a certain recipe for a certain cut of meat that we do not make in this country because you can cut the meat all kinds of different ways

1:13:37 I've learned something new. Yes, you have and i assume the Germans have a different way of doing it too. Uh...I need to commend you and congratulate you on being hands down without a doubt THE most skilled and expert email marketer in the business Why is this? The good one because of the newsletter yeah, which as always good it always enjoyable to read But it showed up in some people's inboxes In a rather peculiar way I tweeted a picture of it how it shows up but if there was something about what was that subject line about analysis Yeah this let me see what it with the real like real analysis. Oh

1:14:25 Yeah, this is a real... Let me go look it up. You did write it yourself! I know but I can't remember one thing for when you do it. I could probably find if I really wanted to look for it. Well just look at my own name and the email box and should be there at the bottom. This but there's a bunch of other crap in the way. This is very funny. Ah here it is your best analysis Your best analysis. That was the subject line of the email. The best analysis of these scandals, right? And it showed up in... I guess the iPhone and some other mobile devices Not not that is the iPhone email the regular email didn't show up that way But i'm pretty sure Gmail truncated analysis to anal

1:15:16 Yeah, it says your best anal. Yeah well, anal. I can't believe we got through the spam filters! Well no they got through the spam filter then it was truncated after the spam filter right? That would be the way it works you're not gonna mess with a headline yourself and then hey wait a minute... Did did you get a huge open rate I haven't checked the open rate yet. Well, in so that was funny and congratulations good work. I had to be very amusing. I know you planned it that was very well done we should try more we should try more count the counter your best analysis or I can do I can I'm thinking of ways of yeah just count the characters and you could do many more fun things dictator all kinds of fun things Yeah but in there you also...

1:16:09 You know, I'm gonna call you back. Are you on the Comcast or on the... Hello? What's your question? Yeah, you're cutting out a bit are you on the Comcast or on the other one Oh, I'm not-I'm on Comcast Can you switch? You can do that seamlessly i think right yeah i think so okay you do that it's magic uh in the newsletter while you're doing that there was a mention of the FIFA scandal very interesting this came out of nowhere and um I shall play you Let me see. Do I want this? No, I wanna wait for you to kick that off let me see if your back. Hello! Now that's so seamless. You there? Yeah i'm here. Your AM radio... Hold on give it a minute It'll snap out of that quickly Alright your back. Switched over seamlessly Lovely Alright but I have a couple clips but take us into the FIFA because you wrote it up in the newsletter and I also have some ideas about it

1:17:13 All right, well I have a number of...I looked at all. This is one of those things that I recorded all the network TV national news feeds. We need it we need to background on what's going on and what happened was the United...we got the new Attorney General and she decided...Loretta Lynch Loretta Lynch decides who used to be country western You took words out my mouth! I was just about to say that as Loretta Lynn but yeah Oh okay It's good enough She decided to make a name for herself because the other Attorney General wasn't going to go after the bankers and apparently she's not either, but they've decided some easy pickings. These five FIFA guys which we've bitched about for years and it's like nut news to us. And so she decides to go after them for corruption because the United States did not get the 2022 World Cup. It went to Qatar and it was

1:18:11 It was obviously because of bribery and so they arrested a bunch of people, found money. Found guys who flipped and they put a case together in concert with the Swiss who, if you listen to the analysis of why the Swiss are involved...of course the FIFA headquarters and so is the IOCC. Those guys will be next because the current Swiss government decided that they do not want a reputation of just harboring a bunch of these would-be racketeering criminal organizations in their country They just don't like it. They say, we're fed up with these guys that bring a lot of money through but most of it is illegal and they don't need it so they've decided okay were all in on this and so they jumped into bed with us And the best version of this story turns out I think is on... Is that ABC World News?

1:19:04 I think, is ABC the one? Yeah. I think so let's play that Now to that World Cup bombshell tonight all of those questions why did the US lose the World Cup well now a massive crackdown by the FBI nine top officials accused of taking 150 million dollars in bribes and kickbacks briefcases stuffed with cash raids around the world tonight and right here at home in Miami and ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross following the money With officials hiding behind bed sheets, the biggest scandal ever in the world's biggest sport unfolded in dramatic fashion this morning with arrests in Zurich Switzerland and an FBI raid of Miami at the offices of the officials who oversee soccer in the US and Central America.

1:19:46 In all tonight, nine of the most powerful men in the soccer world stand accused of taking tens of millions of dollars in bribes. Cash in a briefcase in a Paris hotel room, wire transfers to offshore bank accounts even an expensive painting delivered from a New York City art gallery All for the officials votes at authorities on where World Cup and other FIFA tournament soccer games would be played and broadcast. This really is the world cup of fraud. The winner is Qatar! The investigation began after the US narrowly lost the 2022 World Cup to the country of Qatar amid allegations of bribery. But almost immediately there were questions about the wisdom of holding the World Cup in the Arabian desert heat, in one of the hottest places on earth as we saw

1:20:38 Now about 1 in the afternoon and the temperature is just at 124 degrees. Had the US won, it would have meant an estimated $5 billion to the 18 U.S cities which would have hosted the games I think the ultimate victim is soccer writ large But investigators say they also discovered payoffs that benefited the US. Some $30 million in alleged bribes to bring a major tournament, the so-called Copa America Games to the U.S., for the first time. This is making world headlines tonight Brian with us now we saw 124 degrees when you were there in Qatar which had us puzzled at the time but any chance of a revote tonight? Well it's not official saying the World Cup in Qatar and 2022 will go ahead as scheduled despite the allegations that it was bought

1:21:25 and paid for it, David. Before your analysis quick 13-second clip from CNN. Why should the US investigate and Arrest well that's simple if you break the law on us soil And if you use their banks to do it don't be surprised when the hammer comes down and by the way when they get You on white collar crime here, they throw away the key Yeah, these are Brit he didn't know what he's talking about is he talking about totally bullcrap okay? All right, I guess you saw Bernie Madoff That's what he was thinking I have, yeah... the hammer down. Martha Stewart and James Comey was there at the announcement along with Loretta Lynch. I have those clips which may be interesting to just listen to because they did a press conference it was Loretta and Comey and everybody was there and i think it's valid to listen

1:22:19 Because I found this very strange that, you know...obviously there has to be something else behind it other than using our world-class financial system for fraud. Here's the brand new attorney general. Yeah no, I'm gonna stop there and just...I'm going to agree with you on this. Something else is going on because this is not...why are we Because there's somebody using our banks for fraud? Are you kidding me?" Let's listen to what the Attorney General says and I have an idea but then we can start to deconstruct because a lot of different things that could be in play or maybe all of the above. The 14 defendants charged in the indictment, we are unsealing today include high-ranking officials at FIFA, the international organization responsible for regulating and promoting soccer

1:23:03 leaders of regional and other governing bodies under the FIFA umbrella, and sports marketing executives who according to the indictment paid millions of dollars in bribes and kickbacks to obtain lucrative media and marketing rights to international soccer tournaments. The 47-count indictment against these individuals includes charges of racketeering wire fraud and money laundering conspiracies spanning two decades And I'd like to point out that you'll hear from James Comey in a moment, none of the HSBC executives committing massive fraud with money laundering and with Mexico. No one went to jail no one was indicted. Yeah from drugs exactly. Beginning in 1991

1:23:50 two generations of soccer officials, including the then presidents of two regional soccer confederations under FIFA. One being the Confederation of North Central American and Caribbean Association Football known as CONCACAF which includes the U.S., And the South American Football Confederation, or CONMEBOL which represents organized soccer in South America used their positions of trust within their respective organizations to solicit bribes from sports marketers in exchange for the commercial rights to their soccer tournaments. They did this over and over year after year tournament after tournament

1:24:31 Now, the criminal activity that we've identified did not solely involve sports marketing. Around 2004 bidding began for the opportunity to host the 2010 World Cup which was ultimately awarded to South Africa – the first time the tournament would be held on the African continent but even for this historic event FIFA executives and others corrupted the process by using bribes to influence the hosting decision The indictment also alleges that corruption and bribery extended to the 2011 presidential FIFA election, and to agreements regarding sponsorship of the Brazilian national soccer team by a major US sportswear company. In short these individuals through these organizations engaged in bribery to decide who would televise games where the games would be held

1:25:22 and who would run the organization overseeing organized soccer worldwide. One of the most popular sports around the globe." Of course, no one gives a crap about it here in America. Interesting points here... Very annoying that she does not mention who these sports marketing companies are! I believe there's something called the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. And if...I don't know if they're bribing politicians, but it doesn't seem out of the question. Huh? There is no evidence of that. But really the only...so they used American banking system fine and we're a member of some organization never heard before which may be big in the soccer world and were a member of that.

1:26:06 None of this seems warranted to have everybody show up and all this big, oh it's just crazy. It's just outrageous what is going on we can't have any of this here's Comey. It's an honor to join the Attorney General in the US attorney to announce his important case And he is the director of the FBI which demonstrates I believe that if you touch our shores with your corrupt enterprise, whether that is through meetings or through using our world-class financial system... World class. ...you will be held accountable for that corruption Nobody is above or beyond the law Soccer football is an egalitarian sport It's a beautiful game because the pitch is flat

1:26:46 It is available to anyone and everyone, no matter where you come from rich or poor boy or girl. You can enjoy the beautiful game it has lifted billions around this globe and is incredibly popular in fast-growing sport here in United States The game, according to the allegations in this indictment was hijacked. That field that is so famously flat was made tilted in favor of those who were looking to gain at the expense of countries and kids who are enjoying a game of soccer There's a danger that cynicism creeps into our lives and folks shrug and say well that just the way things are That may be the way things are but that is not the ways things have to be

1:27:28 And one of the important lessons of this case is that we will not stop until we send messages that this is not the way things should be. Yeah, a message in a bottle! Now they had this huge infographic in the background and I set it up so you can take a look John It's fifa dot grumpy radio dot com Great...I thought that was a fun little domain name for us Grumpy Radio Dot Com Then you can see here they have The Enterprise You got it? Getting'it Okay They have okay, so they had the first slide is you see FIFA and then there's a concoct cuff.

1:28:11 which we're apparently a member of, and then you see below sport big red sports marketing companies. Which to me is messaging but the second page or if you scroll down a bit is even better the sports marketing bribery scheme who are unnamed in this indictment and who just unnamed it's just a major... You can look it up traffic group as one of them I found that while you were talking right so you can see here how the money flows and how these sports marketing companies are pretty much in the middle, and they're the pass-through of all of this money. And sports marketing... what do they market exactly? I don't have no idea. Probably media rights would say there in between they probably have something to do with like sports agents what do they do except for deals. They do deals!

1:29:03 So there's a couple of ways to... There has to be something else behind this. It was too big, although Comey is well known for grandstanding he's the guy that threw Martha Stewart in the slammer Big hero! Big hero, Comey now the director of FBI. So it could be a Clinton-related thing saying, oh well you know Qatar gave money and then all of a sudden they were the host city for 2016 that's possible? That was mentioned in the newsletter it turns out that the Clinton Foundation has is somehow interconnected with this scam Could be also And maybe an out to get Clinton we're seeing more and more

1:29:43 Yeah, well we've been talking about for years. Yes, about subtle Clinton go after Clinton then by going after the foundation and the library according to reports President Putin Said oh this is just another blatant attempt by the US to meddle outside its jurisdiction Russia I would agree with that right yeah? I think there's an element of that not our jurisdiction now you used our bank You know, you got a...you drove up. You rented a car." Well the Department of Justice has jurisdiction in the United States I think that's what he means and who knows how that's translated from Russian but the Russians have the 2018 World Cup

1:30:24 So maybe that's a...there was actually, I read it. There may be some connection there too as we're always just giving it to Russia. There was somewhere there was a oh here it is yeah this so the Senate some senators picked it up that way and read this to you U.S. Senators call for resignation of FIFA head Sepp Blatter, and by the way what kind of name is that? Sepp Blatter. S-E-P-P. Sepp! Sepp Blatter B-L-A-T-T-R. U.S. senators call for resignation of FIFA head Sepp Blatter for supporting Russia 2018 World Cup. And this is McCain, of course. Oh yeah. Menendez

1:31:08 said allowing Russia to host the World Cup would bolster the Putin regime at a time when it should be condemned. So whether this was... Because they have Snowden! Whether this was the plan or not, but I think there's something else behind it This happened two days before the announcement The beautiful game has become the latest playing field between Israelis and Palestinians And when I say the announcement I mean the announcement of the indictment on corruption charges A world sport turned into a regional conflict The Palestinians want Israel suspended from FIFA and they want a vote at the FIFA Congress. We are not interfering in the business of the Israeli Football Federation, this proposal is due to the acts and failures of the Israeli Football Federation with regards to their obligations towards FIFA rules and regulations

1:32:02 The Palestinian Football Association objects to Israeli teams in the West Bank. They also say Israel restricts movements of Palestinian footballers. The Israel Football Association says that's a question of security, which it has no control over. Association President Ofer Eini says football can bring these two sides together instead of forcing them apart. Overseeing this political sport, FIFA president Sepp Blatter who says the world's most popular sport could be a bridge for peace. In a visit to the region, Blatter met with both sides football associations and political leaders to find a solution he suggested a match between the national teams in Zurich Football has power to connect people Football has power to construct bridges And I'm coming here

1:32:49 to construct bridges. Blatter opposes the vote that would be at the next FIFA Congress scheduled for the end of the month, but he says it's within the Palestinian Association's right to call for it He says Israel follows all the FIFA rules and he doesn't want to see a national team removed The vote would require 75% of FIFA 209 member associations to suspend Israel when bladder was asked what he thought the outcome of the vote would Be he said I'm not a prophet. I believe this is One of the if not the core reason that the United States came into action. Israel does not want, you know like screw it you can't kick us out of FIFA and of course the claims are and I think probably valid they don't let the footballers practice freely move about freely all there's a whole list of things being kicked out of FIFA is a big deal is a lot of money in a lot of kickbacks just a lot going on and I think that signal went out hold on a second lets send these fuckers a message

1:33:52 I think that's a fine analysis. It's the best i can do? I think it's not bad, this could be...I mean the coincidence is too close that's the you know that we have a coincidence here and it was probably foretold i'm sure that was in the air so they could plan for this yeah But it's also handy to take it and say, oh, Blatter has to resign. And Blatter of course is the guy saying, Oh go ahead with your vote." He asked to resign and then we add in there like you know... You can't have Russia hosting the 2018... And yet you can give Russia the needle and... But knowing what America does for Israel so... I think by the way this may be the reason because we picked up on from various... Well, I got it from a comment actually looked it up

1:34:37 The Clinton Foundation has not been brought into the story. No, by the mainstream media mainstream we brought it in and I think other people have noticed it but It's not in the storyline In fact what you said is not in the storyline either so the storyline is just ah look at this corruption Let's bust them yeah But I'm pretty sure its related to us throwing our weight around Yeah Pretty sure Which We can do! Were very good at it extremely good at it Speaking of Israel Why have there been no ISIS attacks in Israel? Why do we not have ISIS in Jerusalem?

1:35:18 We the Western groups need to create the Islamic State Yes, for various political reasons and then we can go continue our rubble is ation process but we get We get Isis at the border and ISIS in America. We get all that Israel isn't Crawling all over the place was one walking down the street right now. Well, let me look stupid Hey Go home go back Nothing to see here Isis Give it hell! Isis. I feel good! Shut up, slave! Nice Alright, I have a couple of things just shorties This is an interesting little... the Walker Museum I'm not sure what the punchline is I've forgotten the punch line to this story but The Walker Museum which is one of the most important museums in the United States art museum has a huge collection and they're beautiful Where's it located? In Minneapolis

1:36:26 And Minneapolis is kind of an artsy town, Minneapolis-St. Paul. They're kind of artsy towns they have a lot of really cool museums and they have like public art that's really not well done and you go roaming around and just their art is everywhere there's in restaurants it's all over the place very unusual place for that so they've decided to start selling at The Walker they decided to start selling what was called intangibles Intangible something you cannot touch It's something you cannot, it's an experience as art. And so you buy these intangibles and you get nothing really. What kind of experiences are they selling? Well one of them for example the guy on PBS News Hour... I like that! That's what we sell

1:37:17 Yeah, well... It's so intangible. We're not selling anything but we deliver. Just asking for help. We deliver intangibles yeah? The guy who says here is one of the things he got a dance performance in the middle of the park out on the blue just by his... He bought whatever it cost and then they give you get a set of instructions to walk into the park and go over the bridge and say hello to the guy in orange Oh its like a rally Well, it's a little bit but usually for one person and so you go he does that the guy says hello And I guess starts dancing around like an idiot And that was his experience. And then another one will be a bunch of there's one artist one photographer 400 bucks You get you get a series of his photographs specifically made for you on Snapchat So as they appear they disappear. Oh, yeah, I don't have snapchat

1:38:08 Well, if you throw a Snapchat you wouldn't buy this intangible. Oh yeah? I thought it was specifically for you as in me... No, I get it! Yeah It would be specifically for you if he has Snapchat. But there was a little anomaly in the report that I just was taken aback. When i first heard it and had to replay, what are they talking about? In this regard play this and tell me if you can spot the anomaly. It's pretty tangible intangible I'm also trying to cover up holes in the wall. Nice! Monica Larson was one of Intangible's first customers, she bought what was advertised as a potential art exhibit by the design team known as ROLU. Maybe that door way that i was just talking about could come in a little bit? When we met her that exhibit was becoming a reality in her own living room after purchasing a zip drive of images and videos she selected or curated pieces she wished to display

1:39:08 Well, tangible intangible was the anomaly. I missed it? No yeah what was it and it has nothing to do with this story It's like after purchasing a zip drive Yeah that's a tangible A zip drive? Who has a zip drive?! Zip drive hasn't been on the market for a decade! What are you gonna do with this, have you ever seen one of these things they're big clunkers. So you have a zip driver and look at this thing go what the hell is this!? The chat room knew it by the way Zip drive, let me see can you still buy the on eBay? I guess oh who would buy one Oh that's right. It has the big the big hard floppy yeah That's what she said bro man So where is this report coming from this is PBS our great news hour and they're talking about zip drives Let me see if Amazon still sells them

1:40:07 That'd be funny. Zip drives? I actually have a USB zip drive that I can plug in on any USB system and read a zip drive if i ever had one, I don't even have one anymore Here you go still for sale an IOmega 31714 USB 100MB, woo! 100MB, I laugh at you Zip drive $81.50 yeah, I for 30 bucks that's a rebut on Amazon I bought for 30 about 35 36 bucks now I bought 128 gigabyte thumbdrive of course of course

1:40:49 Yeah, that's a good anomaly. I wouldn't have caught that. I forgot what a zip drive was. Yeah, that's 1996? It's 95? Yeah! I'm listening... That's why I said i had to go back because there was some stick in my brain after watching this report. That's very funny yeah. I like that you can-I don't know if we-if I can call this an official Redbook checkmark because it's not really being marketed by a huge firm yet so Monday after our show where I said you watch Cricket Flower coming to cupcakes. I started getting all kinds of emails Here it is from nextmillenniumfarms.com chocolate zucchini cupcakes with cricket flower Yeah, yeah see here's what I'm not giving you any credit for this and i'm gonna tell you want to know why ask me? Why um why

1:41:41 Because I believe this cricket flower thing has been going on for a while. You read about it. I wouldn't have you. And it's stuck in the back of your brain, you forgot that you read about and you threw it out This is old memories, repressed memory. You probably repressed it I would have repressed it. Eww cricket flour then you repressed and then you brought it out Okay for a minute I'm not crediting this Oh man! I could use a cupcake right now let me go see on the way ooh cricket flour Look buy these Someone's buying it This is I'm telling you they're gonna let you look your own daughter-in-law eat my daughter not my daughter Oh, even worse. It's your own flesh and blood Yes as far as we know it's yeah bugs oh Yeah bugs now We may have maybe people like that jingle which one the bugs yeah, the legs jingling. Yeah? I think I should play it because that's people all this my favorite jingle of the moment

1:42:51 While the FIFA thing was going on on the same ABC News and this exact same show, they actually ran the following story that I'm gonna play. Breaking news... not breaking news but important news making! News making by Hillary. Oh this is new? News making? News making by Hillary and they gave this report This is the entire report, which was nothing more than a ABC again. Nothing more than a free plug for Hillary with this stupid story. Hillary Clinton in the meantime making headlines of her own tonight we've seen the effect The White House could have on a president people have long talked about the evolving gray hair Tonight Mrs. Clinton making a prediction I've been coloring my hair for years You're not gonna see me turn white in The White House

1:43:48 Hillary Clinton and her prediction tonight. Yeah, I had the same clip Maybe did you see those women in the back? That's what I wanted to talk about cuz you can't going The woman off to her left from our from our viewpoint with she has a whole bunch of pearl blonde. Yes. She has pearl Bracelets that blonde yeah Yes Ruben ask I think mine clipped me, you might be able to hear it even better. Hillary Clinton in the meantime making headlines of her own tonight We've seen the effect the White House could have on a president Just listen to her And she's clapping like a crazy person. Clinton making a prediction. I've been coloring my hair for years

1:44:29 This is some kind of... Why is that so hilarious? It's not. It must be something about women who, I don't know age and color their hair. I don't understand it's like oh wow gee like President Obama colors his hair Yeah he has to yeah I picked up a quick little bit which is part of a prediction or something we had talked about the Castro brothers from Texas And this was the report. One Democratic ally considered a potential running mate by some should Clinton win the nomination called it a side show What you have here with these emails is basically a witch hunt. Clinton is dominating the field, a far cry from the crowded field of Republicans competing to be their standard bearer So that's one of the Castro brothers from Texas now mentioned as possible vice presidential candidate

1:45:25 with Clinton? Yeah, they're Democrats. I'm guessing that... Well this guy's deluded! Deluded?! Well he didn't say that it was Andrea Mitchell who said it That he is deluded? No she said potential vice presidential candidate well she wouldn't have said if there wasn't something going on yeah exactly deluded they're diluted yes what they are really doing is soaking them for money Oh, I got an answer. We've been asking... By the way what's his name? What's his name of the Republican? Santorum He just now the other guy he just announced this morning I saw it. Another one. Was it Bradley now who is it to Bradley Cooper? Hold on look announces run for president another another guy another blast from the past

1:46:22 George Pataki, he announced this morning. He's running... But here is how it works I got a... Good! We've been waiting for this. Yeah okay. How? Why are they doing this? What's the money scam? Okay the money scam is the following and this is from The Christian Science Monitor funded by all kinds of interesting groups, but it looked pretty good to me. The election is over what happens? What happens with all the campaign cash? This is an older... this from 2012 but it kind of explains so when you raise money for your campaign and you don't win if you still don't spend at all you still have money left over

1:47:01 There's a number of things you can do with it. And here is the Federal Election Committee spokeshole, surplus funds may be used in connection with a future election. Funds may be transferred between authorized committees of the same candidate without limit as long as the committee making the transfer has no debts outstanding and then there are some some legal pointers. Alternatively, a candidate may redesignate a former campaign committee as the principal campaign committee of his or her current campaign and use the excess funds of the previous campaign in the current campaign So, and then this article the way it's...of course you can't spend it on hookers and stuff. But you can go quite far in this but the real deal is that you can become a kingmaker if you raise a lot of money or even several million dollars could be important to someone else

1:47:55 And so all these, it's a power game. So you will have other pieces of money and I think all these guys are just jumping in A so they can travel in private jets and there's a lot of things that you can continue to do even though if now you're no longer running your campaign, you can designate a committee that will then spend their money on another candidate. It was really about becoming a kingmaker or a valuable contributor to the actual winners' campaign Yeah, okay. That's as far as I could go political it sounds right and you get this You know live it up while you're running our country in Western star Loretta Lynch Before she started the FIFA indictment speech did you see didn't see the whole thing? Did you know I didn't see anything I watched the whole thing She started off with this somewhere hello Bad edit on my part sorry She's coming in all right good morning everyone hey good morning

1:48:57 Thank you all for being here today. Before we begin with today's announcement, I do have a brief comment to make on the situation regarding FISA. As Attorney General, I am committed to ensuring that this nation protects the civil liberties of every American while also keeping our country safe and secure. Unfortunately some of the vital and non-controversial tools that we use to combat terrorism and crime are scheduled to shut down on Sunday making this not an ordinary weekend The House of Representatives has passed a bipartisan bill called the USA Freedom Act that would extend these tools while addressing important and valid concerns about other aspects of the government's ability to protect data.

1:49:40 But without action from the Senate, we will experience a serious lapse in our ability to protect the American people. Today I join the President in urging the Senate to work through the current recess In order to make sure that we can continue To appropriately safeguard this country and protected citizens Now for today's announcement Okay now when she is talking about tools I wondered if there was something about encryption In the Freedom Act. I could not find it in the bill that passed the House, but I would like people to help me on this because there is reporting

1:50:18 here and there, that this specifically deals with encryption. The word encryption as far as I could tell doesn't even show up in the USA Freedom Act but there are some other things that we haven't discussed since all of this was changed has been through committee and it went through a vote. And just a couple things i thought were interesting to mention should have this pattern now we know that what this really does is it allows the federal agencies to just say to the telco companies, okay we need this and this give it to us and we'll take a look at it. And oh by the way run it through this company FireEye or whatever interim party and you are indemnified. So there's couple things in the Freedom Act that are worth noting section 102 emergency authority

1:51:06 Emergency authority for production of tangible things. That's interesting, that comes up...that's random number theory that comes up tangible and comes up twice. Notwithstanding any other provision attorney general may require the emergency production of tangible things if the Attorney General A reasonably determines that an emergency situation requires the production of tangible things for an order authorizing such a production B, reasonably determines that the factual basis for the issuance of an order under this section to approve such production of tangible things and informs either personally or through a designee. A judge having jurisdiction under this time on this section at the time that the Attorney General requires the emergency production and makes an application in accordance with this section so there's a couple steps but you can then

1:51:49 acquire all tangible things. That could be computers, drives, zip drives for all I care it can be a number of things so this new attorney general is clearly manipulable... Manipulable? Is that the right term? Yeah! Well she's in this all on the FIFA thing and I thought it was kind of interesting to start up with a FIFA announcement with a FISA comment. Yeah that is odd Liability protection, this is the one we need to be looking at. Section 105 no cause of action shall lie in any court against a person...person can be company you know that's how the law works who A produces tangible things or provides information facilities or technical assistance pursuant to an order issued or an emergency production required under this section or B

1:52:36 otherwise provides technical assistance to the government under this section or to implement the amendments made to this section by the USA Freedom Act. So there's your complete indemnification, because you hand it over if you even help them if you even hand over and all of it you're completely indemnified and Section 106 as amended by 102 of this act The government shall compensate a person for reasonable expenses incurred for producing tangible things so everyone makes out they make money Now they can't get sued. All right, just all super duper? I'd like a lawyer out there to tell me the following. Right now they can't get sued. What if they changed it back and they just dropped this whole thing or during this moment where it's not gonna be passed because it's gonna expire for a couple of days then they're gonna all freak out. What about during that moment when you sue somebody? Does this last forever and is even legal? Is it possible that Supreme Court could throw out the indemnification clauses

1:53:33 Throw it out saying this is bullshit. You can't do this and then you can be sued Well, there's large come I'd be very if I was a large company. I wouldn't be all in on this Yeah Well there was to me that the big gotcha was at the very end page 44 section 701 sunsets So remember this is the USA Freedom Act And here in section 701 of the USA Freedom Act it says, USA Patriot Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 is amended by striking June 1st 2015 and inserting December 31st 2017. Effectively the USA Freedom Act extends the Patriot Act until 2018

1:54:25 and B, Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 also amended by striking June 1 2015 inserting December 31st 2017. So what the hell is this all about? You can argue all you want about the USA Freedom Act but what it does is it extends the sunset provision Maybe I didn't know this. This was not revealed to me now and well, I didn't know this either but this is the The version that passed us about about all June 1st it's gonna expire What are we gonna do? We're all gonna die because people don't read these documents But it's like the congressmen that are saying yet if they don't read the documents, I guess It's disgusting. It takes a VJ Doing your VJ

1:55:16 I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fab! We actually do have some people to thank for Show 725 And let's find out who they are and thank them. Starting with Brian Waltersdorf in Maryland Heights, Maryland he came in with $176.57. Now he is going to be a knight so maybe read this note. Yeah we'll read his thing because he's gonna be a knight. Sir Brian of the Mac & Cheese St. Louis, Louisiana into the order of the Pugner I think there was few people in that order my co-workers showed up at work yesterday talking about their kids

1:56:02 or taking his kids to the Destination Imagination 2015 Global Finals in Knoxville, Tennessee over the weekend as the NASA Disney program to inspire kids from kindergarten through elementary level to get involved with space. He told me that keynote speech by Buzz Aldrin at the opening of the convention welcoming delegations from all over the world including China Ukraine and Korea He was astonished at Buzz's performance for the kids. I couldn't find any news reports on it, but I found a few YouTube clips which I combined to this full clip of the speech that might be a little long for the show and we didn't notice. It would be brilliant drunk or not drunk... Yeah right actually we saw that. Buzz Aldrin was drunk? Well that's what he says is possibility. That wouldn't surprise me

1:56:52 Anyway, okay onward. He wanted a drunk or not drunk jingle And we'll be knighting you in a bit Ryan Donald Borowski and Spokane Washington I think is I think it's Spokane Valley he said no because this came in on the over though over the transom and Unfortunately what does transom mean? Over the you know over the wire The transom, you know it came over he came through the door and I only read his notes. Well maybe he is in Spokane there's another guy from Spokane Valley no it says Spokane Valley that's where he's from Eric left a valley out. A transom is of the flat surface forming the stern of a vessel or horizontal beam reinforcing the stern of a vessel or strengthening...I don't know what you're talking about man? It's a colloquialism

1:57:46 I only read this because it comes in on official stationery from the United Federation of Planets. Ah, the planets! Of course this is through the transom then? Yes exactly by definition In The Morning Gentleman he says on his note my pittance is not enough to turn around the trend of low contributions but as the Reverend Sharpton says resist we much yes keep up the good fight Don Borowski WA6 O-M-I. 7 3's Could you send me a picture of the stationary? I'd like to see that Okay, good You can probably look it up I'm sure it's online Everyone who is a member of the Federation has... Has stationary? Has stationery Edward Holstein San Francisco California $100

1:58:37 He thought that he liked the FIFA cat in the news. That was good, yeah! Well the joke was it's fixed get it? Cat fixed. Uh-huh uh huh yeah So I know some people didn't get it Ben Smith and Greenville Texas $100 got a birthday coming up Michael Bowling in Watsonville California and bowling also sent a note in through the transom And I believe he's going to be knighted so he wrote a handwritten note that is Unreadable. Okay, he's something about something I'd have to look it over and like the idea that people are sending handwritten notes but really... And this is written in appears to be written in pencil

1:59:23 I don't know. Oh, that's right! He sent some coasters in... This guy is no slouch he is an engineer with a big aerospace company but they're big And they're noteworthy. It's only a few, John. It's okay we get it! It's big. Yeah really big. He sent in a challenge coin from something they did the company and then he sent a couple of coasters which apparently they've passed around at the company and on one side has got a little puppy dog that says if you see something... Oh no

2:00:02 You flip it over and it says, say something. And on the back is got a duck mother duck with three ducklings following her and a small chick Like a hen following the three ducklings and there's a big duck and they're just like following it in thing so this to these guys is hilarious because if you see something ah Say something, and there is a chicken in a line of ducks. This is you know level of humor we're dealing with your that's almost a bill nye science guy level humor and It's totally Bill nice anyway he just wants to be knighted sir bowling I

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2:01:38 He's got something to say, no rules of Fight Club. Stephen Schwartz in shirts Texas 56 kilo alpha 5 whiskey Juliet Yankee 7 threes in the morning yes Richard Zula Where's 5678 coming from? Richard Zula in North Huntington, Pennsylvania. I just said that 5678. You know but I think when we mentioned that you need to get your ham radio license it works people are getting their ham radio licenses

2:02:24 Because of our show and this is very good. This is a very good development you need this I'm still monitoring 33 Charlie on the d-star not hearing much, but I'll get back on the machine I'll get back down to horn later last night. I checked out your reflector 14 Charlie And I fell into the after show net of Ham Nation. Oh, right it goes over that repeater yesterday? Everyone's talking about the show and checking in I checked in say hey KF5SLN here yeah Pitton & Austin just checking in no traffic did you say anything about the show? Yes! I had...I did see ham nation and they act they had a nice segment about our home builder guy who did amazing work so You know that shows not that bad

2:03:09 No, it's not bad at all. It no, I mean... There are two good shows on that network. I wish they had there was a little bit too much icom in there now they're kind of just doing a whole segment... Yeah, icom owns the show as true. They own the show but I like when they bring in stuff about digital things which these guys don't really like and what they're not really into with their more than big AM Bob Hile of course famous for his microphones and other audio products But they had a home builder, you know like guys in 80 years old. They look like store-bought so beautiful just it was very nice to see from a techerny point of view

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2:08:13 address and send it off to you. Yowza! I had this thing on my rundown list for a couple shows now about Reddit, and...I guess we knew it but kind of forgot that Ellen Powell who tried to sue Kleiner Perkins — she's the CEO there? Yes And she made a statement recently which I thought was interesting It's not our site's goal to be a completely free speech platform, she says So, Reddit will be ruined. Stuff will be deleted but more importantly... I'm sorry? Well what i am saying is that big talk doesn't mean reddit's going to be ruined or they're gonna actually do anything. Okay. Will they moderate? Well let me see what the rest of this article was from

2:09:15 Ah, it's a harassment for bullying. Yeah they're gonna be deleting things for bullying. Of course you know that's going to happen but maybe more exciting is that Reddit is now an official funding partner of Tor! Good work! Huh? Yeah so I'd say... Are we doing tech news? Is that what you're doing? How come he didn't play the jingle? I got Tech News. I didn't know it was tech news. But that's Tech News! Just cause it's not a watch or phone. No, but that's tech news you don't know what tech news is I know what tech news is now Tech News Is about to hail Apple Hail Apple Looks like Motorola sorry Here we go The landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite

2:10:10 There you go, it's tech news at John C. Dvorak has tech news Tech News Tech News Hey, well I thought you were still talking about your story Well, I have stories but okay well let's do a little tech news this little combination thing on only one of the networks played this particular Story which is I found weird and It's the Airbus 330 Singapore engine failure story, which seems kind of disconcerting. We turn now to that scare in the air a passenger jet virtually brand-new somehow both engines giving out at the same time dropping 13 thousand feet ABC's David Curley with what those pilots did next

2:10:53 With 194 people on board, it was a wide-body Airbus A330 like this one that suddenly lost power to both of its engines. It was cruising more than three hours into its flight from Singapore to Shanghai at 39,000 feet in bad weather when the engines shut down no power the jet would lose 13,000 feet in altitude before pilots were able both of the engines working. When you've got a highly computerized airplane, maybe this was a glitch in the program or something. Whatever it was on the new airplane is highly unusual Singapore Airlines tells us the first engine restarted almost immediately procedures call for the pilots to descend keeping speed up and then turn the engine start switch to try and reignite the jet engine It worked The jet landed safely and mechanics found nothing unusual on the week's old Jetliner

2:11:45 David, this happened over the weekend. We don't even know if passengers were aware Singapore Airlines Airbus and the engine maker Rolls-Royce apparently still trying to figure out why both engines shut down All aboard trains good planes bad This this report did a better job than most reports. I read online which had the headline plane plunges 13,000 feet as both engines fail Yeah, so they went into a obviously controlled descent Which is quite normal and you if they flamed out? There's no news yet isn't just not enough information to figure it out

2:12:25 If they flamed out, yeah you're following procedure. You descend and then when there's actual oxygen that can be used to re-fire the engines you re-fire them I don't know this does seem very closely related to the Airbus 400 This is a military aircraft that two of them have crashed now The most recent one killing a couple people who were on the test But this is all unintended consequences of technology, but you now you have to go look for bugs or glitches This is pissing me off. Did you hear though? I'm sure you heard about the iPhone text crash Yeah well here it is play the iPhone malware Okay Yes

2:11:45 David, this happened over the weekend. We don't even know if passengers were aware Singapore Airlines Airbus and the engine maker Rolls-Royce apparently still trying to figure out why both engines shut down All aboard trains good planes bad This this report did a better job than most reports. I read online which had the headline plane plunges 13,000 feet as both engines fail Yeah, so they went into a obviously controlled descent Which is quite normal and you if they flamed out? There's no news yet isn't just not enough information to figure it out

2:12:25 If they flamed out, yeah you're following procedure. You descend and then when there's actual oxygen that can be used to re-fire the engines you re-fire them I don't know this does seem very closely related to the Airbus 400 This is a military aircraft that two of them have crashed now The most recent one killing a couple people who were on the test But this is all unintended consequences of technology, but you now you have to go look for bugs or glitches This is pissing me off. Did you hear though? I'm sure you heard about the iPhone text crash Yeah well here it is play the iPhone malware Okay Yes

2:13:11 Well, Apple is working on a fix for messaging bug that can cause iPhones to shut down and restart. Of course when I guess users see text message containing string of characters some in Arabic then their phones just crash The bug is allegedly not limited to the iPhone If the code is sent via SMS text it can also trigger shutdown other phones as well Seems like some sort of malware to me. I thought i had a clip from CNBC... They call it a glitch? Oh, 20 times! Crap, somehow I didn't know maybe I'll find before the end of the show so a lot of people calling this a glitch

2:13:51 And I do know what happens. It's, and because I tried it on myself you know had a friend send this message to me and it didn't crash! Oh this is bogus but that's because I have all notifications turned off on my phone. That is the notification part of the OS that can't...I mean, really you can't handle double byte encoded stuff or Unicode? Is that the problem with these Arabic characters?" So it's a relatively easy fix. But how someone figured this out I'm not sure. It is a funny gag! Do you remember there was this similar gag, it was one line PHP

2:14:36 One line and if you had someone's IP address, then you fired that script. It would give Windows the immediate blue screen of death. Oh cool now I'm talking must have been 98 or something. There was still stuff out there like that nobody cares anymore but it was fun But I want to commend you. Wow, I don't know why should be doing all this today nice article in PC mag Ah the Internet of Things a surveillance state in disguise Yes very good Lincoln that was actually triggered by some listeners who kept Pastoring me what do you think about the internet and things? What do you think about the internet? I know that guy I recognize his voice Yeah said you've heard him he's always around

2:15:16 What do you think about the Internet of Things? I haven't read that you've heard...I have written about the Internet of Things now and again, but now I said okay let me just focus on the Internet of Things to tell you what i think. Very good! And that's what I think. Very good and I have three clips from Vint Cerf who is... You know we..I guess we have to be thankful because he helped create TCPIP. TCPIP, the stack. And of course along with that goes Bob Metcalfe I guess who came up with Ethernet? He's the Ethernet guy really. But that kind of goes hand in hand and so Vince Cerf who is...and he works for Google. I don't think he works there anymore does he? Oh yeah oh yeah okay. He's a VP senior advisor etc and you know he's so Googlized

2:16:07 that he's arrogant. Well, here is an example of his arrogance and this is the thinking that is inside Google at a VP level at an advisory level... This is Google talking right? Right! And this is very telling just a short clip He started MCI Mail. This was the email service from MCI, it was pre-internet I guess...was that pre-internet? Yes or no? Well it was a coincidence but it was pre-web. Yes, pre web and then he left and then came back so they had MCI Mail but The internet was taking off and MCI Mail didn't make much more sense, and so they decided to shut it down. But just listen to the arrogance you know understand how Google thinks about its users. And around 2003 it was very clear that charging people for email wasn't exactly a great business model anymore So we shut down the MCI Mail service and I got a whole bunch of angry emails from reporters who said, ''I've had my MCI Mail address since 1983! How can you do this?''

2:17:07 But the honest answer is that it was time for that service to go. Yeah, that's how Google thinks He could have easily given forwarding email addresses or something like that now this says something up if he wanted but he actually does the voice and So that's how good That's a thinking inside of Google about users when they're just gonna shut something off because they don't give crap They do then and Google does that constantly? Here's the Internet of Things clip from Vint Cerf, and obviously he is all in. So you can do me two favors one as individuals talk to your ISPs and demand an answer when am I going to get IPv6 addresses? I want dates and times. And second as reporters will you kindly do the same thing but do so with a megaphone that is afforded to you by The Fourth Estate.

2:17:54 Now why do I care about having lots more IP addresses? Well one answer is that the next wave of stuff is the internet of things you all know that yeah, but this is real It's real every appliance as you can possibly imagine if shifting from electromechanical controls to programmable controls And once you put a computer inside of anything there's an opportunity To put it on the net now There are good things and bad things about that. The good thing about the Internet is everything is connected The bad thing about the internet is everything is connected. Oh, so we really need the address space in order to accommodate this explosion of devices Cisco says that there may be 50 billion devices by 2020 and they may not be as crazy as it sounds because Every light bulb could potentially have its own IP address My light bulbs have their own way They don't have their own IP address internally They do the Philips hue that I've been well around with

2:18:49 Yeah, that's interesting. That is interesting but...so he's shilling very hard for the IPv6 and I don't know... Yeah he wants IP...He has a t-shirt that says IP everywhere it's one of his jokes Why is it so hard for IPv6? Why aren't people impl...I see my computers have IPv6 addresses Everybody's all prepared yeah Okay Because the back end, the infrastructure on the other side Still not already It's not cheap Yeah, you spend all this money for IPv6 that really not that many people are really give a shit about. Yeah they've got their IP address they don't care. Yeah I get it. There's an aggravate and you can never write it out what the IPv6 which your IP address is like a million miles long. Yeah you can't remember it like we used to

2:19:38 I might be able to remember a few. There's now a market in IPv4 class, like Class C address space you can sell that at a nice markup because we are running out. We'd run out actually if it wasn't for network address translations we wouldn't have enough Now here is the last clip and this... We fake it Yes we do This boggled my mind Here is Vint Cerf debunking the net neutrality issue. I don't think he even knows what he's saying, no in fact i know he doesn't know what he is saying

2:20:14 And he is telling us why Netflix is buffering. Now, the popular story we heard, the story that the president has reiterated that every tech or tech-orny person has said, oh this is because of how the peering is working and they're not paying for it and all the transit fees... No no no! Vint Cerf is going to tell us what is really happening! The label is buffer bloat and you might think okay so what is this? When you're watching streaming videos, have you ever noticed that sometimes they get real jerky and things slow down? The delays are going up and you sit there waiting for things to reload. He's describing Netflix buffering issues I believe could also be YouTube but i think he's saying what we're talking about here Well it turns out that it is not true That having more buffer memory space Is always a good thing Let me explain

2:21:04 You have a router at home, typically. Maybe it's supplied by cable or telco company or maybe you bought one and installed it Or you hired a geek to do that And so this thing has memory in it And imagine for a moment that you're running the local network at home and it's running at maybe 100 megabits per second or maybe 10 gigabits, or maybe even 1 gigabyte per second. But the connection that you have out to the rest of world is not running that fast unless you happen to be on one of Google fiber networks in which case your getting a gigabyte per second but most them don't quite get there speed so what happens? The program that you have running inside the house is pushing data like crazy into this buffer, which is filling up and emptying slowly because the data rate on the other end is slower than the rate at which your pumping it in. Which means there are increasing amounts of delay from the standpoint of this center over here waiting to hear acknowledgments coming back from the other end At some point, the program inside your house

2:22:03 is saying, oh my god they didn't get what I sent. I better send it again and so you keep retransmitting pretty soon you create a highly congested condition So it's counterintuitive but what you have to do is design the system so that it doesn't put too much buffer space in the path It should only put enough to deal with the differential between high speed and low speed side Of course this also works at the other direction To me, that is an undocumented not discussed issue that most certainly could be... has been attributed to... I actually don't know what he's talking about. And, I don't know what relationship it has the net neutrality. Okay well you were playing with your toys and weren't listening! No a bunch of stuff fell over as I was picking it up So sometimes you get buffering on Netflix He didn't say Netflix but buffering and he says that is attributed to buffer bloat in your router We've never heard that part People may be experiencing buffer bloat

2:23:09 But thinking it's some other net neutrality issue. Yeah, I'll look into it. Hey all right don't hurt yourself. I won't believe me Okay back to the... I do want to mention The No Agenda Show servers are all IPv6 compliant thank you very much VoidZero. VoidZero is the best. Hell yeah How's he doing by the way? Should I send him a note when he was ill and that. He is great, he'll have an interesting announcement coming up in a month or so. Good. Ok let's go on Smartphone usage research, I think it was an interesting little tech news item. Wait a segment about phones

2:23:58 Well, I see how you have tech news without a phone is like bicycle without a woman Any will report on technology trends reveals some interesting statistics on the mobile habits of young adults first off 87% of those between the ages of 18 and 34 are that is always have their mobile devices with them. They'll say the first thing they do when they wake up is reach for their smartphones and secondly 78% spend more than two hours a day using their smartphones There you go. Very interesting. And I wanted to mention along with this, I want to mention...I have been experimenting with keeping all—keeping the phone completely silent on notifications off that even have the was a do not disturb thing on and it is fantastic for couple reasons one your battery life is extended by at least 1 third yeah maybe even 33 percent it's really quite noticeable and second

2:24:58 No Pavlovian responses. You just pick up the phone from time to time, you know? No one needs to get me in a hurry. If they... No, no, you're not a surgeon on call! I'm not a fireman and so it's easy for me to say and you can even set up your iPhone So that special numbers do get through if somebody calls but this has been such a lovely change Well, you know my phone right now is off. Yes, it's off! I also have started turning it off if I go to spin class or just turn it off and leave that thing on. Yes, Spin Class yes, yes. All right let's get onward with the more tech news like a Tech News Digitally Connected story says giggly starts with the word tech got it here we

2:25:47 A new report shows that in five years, 80% of the entire world's internet consumption will be dominated by video. Cisco published its annual study today looking into the near future of the Internet. The study shows part of the growth in online videos will come from adding new people to the World Wide Web and more than half the world's population will be digitally connected Great last story, then we're done. I have let me interject one before you know yeah I'll let you do the final but Paul Krugman Truman your buddy The hey he is that he's the on-staff Economist shill economist for The New York Times so they've been right for the elites yes Do you read him or you don't read him? Yeah once in a while

2:26:36 He published his column titled, The Big Meh. M-E-H. Oh the big meh! And to you know too long don't read he says that even if you take in all of the technological advances into account That really the contribution to the economy is pretty much just as crappy As we were in the 70s and 80s that it has not added anything to our bottom line Yeah And he said, well we keep hearing about Internet of Things and it's going to change everything. And maybe, maybe, maybe but all this other stuff according to his calculations has not really changed our bottom line as a country. Good for him!

2:27:22 Probably true. Yeah, I think most of this is bogus he said the techno revolution It was a one-time spurt which about a decade ago it's sputtered out since then we'd be living in an era of iPhones iPads I don't know it's very funny Paul but even if you adjust for the effects of financial crisis growth and trends and income have reverted to the sluggishness that characterized the 1970s in the 1980s Yeah, the 1970s in particular because this is a 40-year cycle and you have it down decade. And then the 70's you're having this decade and that's sad. So that was a bit specious though. Don't tell the president. Right? All right I have one last little story and this is really... It's kind of tech news. This is the...I don't want to play the clip yet there's a SpaceX so we can cue it up. Now you always like to talk about the wars between Airbus and Boeing.

2:28:11 Oh, Airbus and Boeing. Yes? Airbus and Boeing... What do you think's gonna... I'm just putting this out there for thought maybe I'll put it right up in the Red Book what do you think is going to happen to Musk into and Tesla and SpaceX if they're good if this story actually goes into play Well, I don't know exactly what the story is. So play it. Oh OK. The Air Force has certified the California-based SpaceX rocket design and manufacturing company to launch military and spy satellites a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing has had a monopoly on those launches since 2006. The privately held company is headed by Tesla CEO Elon Musk that already contracts with NASA to ferry cargo and crews to the International Space Station

2:28:58 What is going to happen to those guys? Don't you think that this is a bit much. They're stepping right on Boeing's territory here It's a good way to don't get in the hot tub Elon Hot tubs are not your friend In this case You know, Boeing always uses friendly chemists as their nasty competitors Yeah, they took McDonnell Douglas out. Why we know that there's pot at least the possibility That there's an all-out war between these two this is so big these arrow arrow This isn't billions and billions of dollars and then nothing to sneeze at no it's a rough game run game And it's easy to kill people

2:29:37 We'll see I just thought i'd throw that out as the end of the tech news segment. iPhone schmiphone, the way I see it The only good phone's a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite You let them run over weak and innocent people! Everybody next you stupid self-centered yuppies I will kick your ass! I am sick of your crap Is somebody monitoring this guy's peroxygen? Yes, they do it so we don't have to. Wow! They're doing a great job. Yeah that was great I did have a minor technical issue. He blew up that much. I'm sorry? I didn't know he blew up that much. Apparently...I did want to mention we started a no agenda slack

2:30:24 Yeah, you...I saw the invite for that. I didn't know if it was...did you send me one or was it part of the...let me grab your whole address book and send everyone an invite? No, no. You can add your domain name for people to auto sign up. And I'm certainly not going to be taking emails from people and manually sign them up but you can add gmail.com, you can add yahoo.com but I was able to add hushmail.com and hush.com So you just need a little account. But it's very interesting, first I like that these guys have everything wide open you can add RSS feeds... Well stop for a second and tell me what is this product? This product is

2:31:04 In short, a front end to an IRC server. Not that that's the technology but when you look at it it functions just like an IRC server You can create channels but its web interface. You can actually connect to it with an IRC client You can connect to it with an XMPP client. It's all the same thing, which is why it makes it interesting and we have one of the oldest type of decentralized...although this has not been decentralized...one of the oldest type of chatroom systems being IRC

2:31:40 I always like it when people repurpose things and just, it's the context of it that makes it work. And is...I have to say, it's interesting we've uh we have 70 or 80 people in now. Why would I want to join it? You don't! Is this a chat room? Yes, In a way it's a chat room but of course its non um It's not full time you know everythings archived, all searchable Oh, the chat room with an archive. Yeah that's one way of looking at it but it's all the context but the context is interesting so... Context is king! Yes and I have a... I like that I'm gonna write that one down. Context is King okay. I amuse myself yeah. Did you have anything on the PBS front line?

2:32:29 I thought you would have a couple of them that came out. You would have some clips? No, I didn't make any clips because it was like it was too hard to make clips because it was a propaganda piece. I'll say and yeah and it was such a contrast to the previous one which I mentioned in the newsletter that one the one they did on what was it the week before we talked about and I forgot already It was about something bad. And then they did this one... Oh, it was about the Osama bin Laden raid? Right! It was about the bull crap surrounding Bin Laden and this one was about torture. It's about tortures. Yes yes that's it that's it. This one was about war and there were bombings

2:33:16 What bothered me is they had this ex-ambassador and he's coming out talking about... It was promoting boots on the ground, is what it was doing. Yes, yeah 10,000. And they were bringing out these old memes. Oh, they're using weapons, you know? They were using gas and they were gonna... Chlorine gas. Which has been debunked to an extreme by universities and everybody in between that there...it was the rebels that used the gas not the Syrian government And when I started seeing this old bullcrap memes appearing, so what is this? This is not normal. And so I'm guessing this was like some sort of after they did that blast the previous one where they had to find Stein and that report and they were just given it to everybody that I think this was a make good

2:34:05 Yeah, I did watch the whole thing and I found it interesting that no one from the Obama administration cared to appear on the program but a little Smurf man. What's his name? Dempsey he was interviewed He was all over yeah, he was all over it But I don't see how he gets a pass to do that. Oh No, I didn't think it was a good show. I thought it would say yeah, very slanted I agree I Did catch a Bob Woodward now Bob Woodward is he Does he have a political affiliation? He's the CIA guy. Oh, Bob Woodward! Yeah Isn't he one of all the presidents men... Yeah, he is in the book. Ah okay that makes sense. He was brought into Washington as a favor to someone and he writes all these books that no one could possibly be writing

2:34:58 Yes, well that explains this clip which I might as well play. Yes, well Iraq is a symbol and you certainly can make a persuasive argument it was a mistake but there's kind of line going along that Bush and the other people lied about this. I spent 18 months looking at how Bush decided to invade Iraq and lots of mistakes But it was Bush telling George Tenet, the CIA director don't let anyone stretch the case on WMD. And he was the one who is skeptical and if you try to summarize why we went into Iraq it was momentum that war plan kept getting better and easier. And finally at the end people were saying hey look it'll only take a week or two and

2:35:50 Early on it looked like it was going to take a year or 18 months and so Bush pulled the trigger. A mistake certainly can be argued, and there's an abundance of evidence but uh... there was no lie in this How does that jibe with anything? Wow! Besides being a CIA show I saw- I was watching back then, I was watching Wolfowitz testimony literally say, we know where the weapons are. We know specifically where they're buried and he went on and on like this it was just a right lie! Well how does even jibe with with the West Clark 7? I don't what that was... That was actually the West Clark seven yeah man no strange doesn't and i would say that this is again a uh... the approach of just

2:36:44 Let's just rewrite history and have the right guys say it over and over again, like the front-line show that talked about the gassing of the civilians which was not done by the government. It was proven not to be done by the government. Let's just keep bringing it up! The media will go along... let's just rewrite history for whatever reason or some reason behind it." And that is apparently what Woodward is up to here. That's just rewrite history and just saves. Repeat a lie enough times, you'll be forgiven many times. And then in Memorial Day this happened. At 530 a drone crashed right in the middle of a Memorial Day parade in Marblehead The tiny aircraft hit a building then hit a man The drones operator told police he never thought that gadget could do any damage Ryan Katz spoke with the victim who fortunately

2:37:34 Yeah, this is the problem. I never thought it could crash! That's impossible! It's technology! It can't happen? It's not possible! How can that happen?! I didn't expect it to crash! Well you bring that up we should mention the six-week cycle is upon us... Ah! June 1st Just when the Patriot Act is supposed to expire. There would be a good time for big scare or bunch of little scares which I think is this model they're using now and then the commentary about all our homegrown terrorists are all over the place, it progresses some guy

2:38:13 You know, there's big right-wingers all up in arms about this. Oh they found two guys that were horrible terrorists from San Diego or someplace who are going to join...they're gonna fly to Turkey and join ISIS. Who cares? If they want a flight of turkey and go kill themselves with these idiots I don't see what the big deal is. How is that a threat to us? Are they gonna come back and then they're gonna kill themselves here? It just none of this makes any sense I wonder, I would think it would be some form of... planning for an EMP because the EMP has been big most recently. I don't know, i'm not buying that one well it would be someone who planned oh yeah what could like the whole thing's gonna whatever it is going to be bogus also this um what's his name Cantlie which I really just can't lie that's the the Brit who still apparently is held hostage by ISIS ISIL IS

2:39:14 And he's reporting now in this new magazine, so it's... what is this thing called? The new...? There's a new... not the Inspire. It is... What is this thing called? Oh, Da Beak! Bad name. Da Veek?! Da Beak D-A-B-I-Q Bad name. That's a bad name, sounds like a fountain pen company. And in this he has a column, this hostage John Cantley. He has a column? Yeah he has a column Everybody is trying to get into the act Well he's over there and got nothing better to do, he's got his orange suit on might as well write a column and he says oh you know it looks like ISIS is ready and has enough money to acquire nuclear weapon

2:40:09 And that, of course would be used for an EMP. I'm just trying to lay it out as possibilities for the six-week cycle if anybody has any other ideas we're open to them. Well, we'll see shortly because most of these are just FBI sting operations that they've set up some dummy... They haven't had anything, you know interesting like the naval base shooting that was kind of interesting and the maniac doctor who shot up the other Fort Hood shooter. That's that was unusual and some these other things I would do another theater shooting would work but they get this other guy on the stage now this clown from Aurora

2:40:47 And they revealed this notebook, and I wish I wrote some of it down. They showed pages of it. We gotta get a hold of this notebook! Oh, this is the Joker? The Joker. He's got the notebook and some of the stuff in the notebook is crazy. The guy has been programmed. MKUltra You can see the programming fail...and the failure of the programming is what caused this incident, I'm sure of it if you look at it but somebody's gotta have a copy of the notebook Because they released it in the, I think the prosecution has. We need a copy of this is what you're saying? There are some lines in there that are like because they were showing on TV and there's some crazy one-liners and they're like what does this mean

2:41:30 So that's got to be obtained. I think we can also see some form of international incident or accident in the South China Sea, there is just too much of this and... Yeah they're doing too much of a lead up. We had CNN all of a sudden yeah we had CNN oh we're on the secret spy plane no one's allowed on it. I immediately got emails from our friends in military who said that's not the secret spy plane! That's not you know that's a plane. It's just surveillance plane And someone else said if it was really the Chinese Navy, they wouldn't have said this is Chinese Navy. They would've said this is the Army-Chinese-Army Navy something? Yeah you always have everything's a division of the army there's no Chinese navy yeah um and well I've got one good funny kind of thing left about time

2:42:22 So I just was tuning in, I was eating breakfast so I turned on the... What were you eating for breakfast? I was having oatmeal. The way you make it? Yeah the good way. Good excellent I caught the Kelly and Michael show, whatever it's called. Kelly Rip and Michael Strain. I haven't watched that since Regis and Kathy Lee. Yeah well that was a long time ago. Now its the same show and this Strahan guy who is nice enough guy but he has a lisp and he always got this phony laugh. Where's this guy from? He's a football player with a defensive end

2:43:06 For the Jets, I believe. New York Jets. And he went into media and you know he's personable and he has a big gap in his teeth and looks normal If you call that, he's only 76 foot 8 or something and big. But they go on and on about this...Kelly Ripa has a story about her…I guess she sends her kids to some private school in New York because it's pretty much the only thing you can do must cost a fortune. And she is discussing which I think is the most decadent almost insulting camping trip that the kids go on which is an urban camping trip

2:43:43 where they go in with no money and they're supposed to spend the night in New York somehow, like poor kids. Like homeless kids in some very pretentious way I just found this extremely insulting on many levels as people were laughing and thinking this is so funny that it was great that the kids would have life lessons And then at the end...I'm prefacing the whole thing for you At the end she talks about her son when he did this He had a real life lesson and then the anecdote she gives is not a life lesson in any way. It's some bullshit, but anyway play What they do is they go camping it's sort of

2:44:26 It's a life experience trip where they camp throughout the city without any money, the five boroughs of Manhattan without money. And it is team bonding experience so they live in shelters and wash dishes for their lunch and they live a life of children who might not have anything except I caught her cell phone. I was like, what's this? You can't have $20 in your... She's like no, I need to hide 20 dollars. No you cannot hide 20 dollars! No, she said all the other kids are hiding 20. And not this kid so I had it you know I had to toss her bag before I packed her bag. Half the kids were like well they got a credit card anyway

2:45:09 But that sounds like an interesting program. I remember when my son did it and he got so much out of it, one of the greatest things happened to him... He's a very low-key kid, you know Michael. He is like your Michael as a matter of fact and they were on this trip and they were in a diner And they had offered to do their dishes in exchange for a meal which they accepted A lot of these people know that these kids are coming in The show was playing in the diner and one of the kids because Michael would never say anything But one of the kids in his group said that's his mom

2:45:47 And so they gave them their meal for free without having to wash the dishes which really irritated me because that's not part of the program They should just You know these kids huh? I don't know what to say about that is that is extremely elitist. It's unbelievable it is its its elitists and insulting. And then she says he had the greatest experience, and then the greatest experience was recognizing his mom on TV. How's that? Anyway that's the New Yorkers' what they think is like a life experience. Go camping! Actually go camping! What an idea! What a crazy idea!

2:46:40 All right Anyway, yes bring the show down. That's okay I'll bring it back up with a nice end montage And it's about to all hell is about to break loose I can see the skies are almost black here in Austin ice Yes, yes, yes Thank you. Thank You amigo And thank you. We'll be looking forward to another show on Sunday, thank you everybody for checking out the live stream in the chat room coming at you from FEMA Region 6 here in downtown Austin, The Crackpot Condo in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm just sitting here waiting for it to rain and I'll be waiting for months. I am John C. Dvorak we will back on Sunday with another episode right here On No Agenda

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