Episode 712 · Sunday, 12 April 2015

Kalette

A major legal victory for the podcasting industry arrives as the Clinton family faces growing questions over Haitian gold mines and missing earthquake relief funds.

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About this episode

The Electronic Frontier Foundation secured a landmark legal victory by invalidating a broad podcasting patent through the use of 1990s prior art. This ruling, which protects the fundamental RSS feed structure, utilized early digital media examples from CNN and the Mosaic browser to defeat claims by patent trolls. Despite the win, questions remain regarding the transparency of the EFF's relationship with major corporate donors like Google and Apple, who may have funded the litigation to protect their own video-on-demand interests.

In the Middle East, psychological operations are intensifying as transport carriers drop propaganda flyers designed to resemble local currency to encourage resistance. Domestically, the Department of Homeland Security faces scrutiny for a taxpayer-funded program flying children from Central America to the United States, while Surgeon General Vivek Murthy has officially designated climate change as a primary national security threat. Meanwhile, the FBI faces accusations of entrapment following the arrest of John T. Booker Jr. in a Fort Riley suicide bomb plot, with critics arguing the bureau exploited a man with documented mental illness to manufacture a homegrown terror narrative.

A Haitian Uber driver provides a rare look into the geopolitical tensions in Port-au-Prince, alleging that gold mining rights granted to Hillary Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, have fueled local resentment. While actor Sean Penn receives praise for his hands-on philanthropy, the Clinton and Bush foundations face sharp criticism over the perceived disappearance of billions in earthquake aid. The episode also features a trained opera singer warning that the cultural trend of vocal fry is causing permanent physical damage to the vocal cords of young professionals.


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CHAPTER 01 / 57 Discussion

Podcast Awards, Las Vegas Trip, and UltraFlix 4K TV

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing a planned trip to Las Vegas for the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) convention. They express confidence in winning a write-in vote for the Podcast Awards in the comedy category. The hosts also mention visiting a contact named Foley to discuss UltraFlix 4K television technology.

podcast awards· las vegas· nab· ultraflix· foley

00:00 Well, this is an outrage. We have a master bomb maker on the loose! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Sunday April 12th 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 712 This is no agenda Celebrating Russian Orthodox Easter and Cosmonauts Day! Broadcasting live from the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin, Texas. FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where they're cluster bombing the six-week cycle I'm John C. DeGore out It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Mornin' Yeah... They're cluster bombing it all right Cluster bombs That's the American way Why drop one bomb when you can drop two?

00:47 That's right. Hey, uh... Good news! Okay? I'm going to Vegas this week How is that good news?! Well, I'll tell you why-I am so convinced that we are going to be a write in winner for the podcast awards and the comedy Uh huh, and comedy, alright! What will we write in, I'm telling ya Guess those comedians they never get any votes Yeah, I think I should go Okay, yeah I think you should too. Now i don't have to it's the national association of broadcasters so I can roam around there You should go once in a while anyway Yeah I have to visit our Grand Duke Is Foley going to be down there? Yeah he has the ultraflix you know the 4k tv thing Oh okay and go visit him Well what im gonna do is take him to the awards Tuesday night So he can be on...I'll make him accept along with me Okay

CHAPTER 02 / 57 Discussion

Electronic Frontier Foundation, Podcasting Patent Invalidation, and Prior Art

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) successfully invalidated a broad podcasting patent by demonstrating prior art from the mid-1990s. The court ruled that the concept of a compilation file containing URL addresses to episodes is unpatentable, effectively protecting the RSS feed structure. The legal victory utilized early examples of digital media distribution from CNN and the Mosaic browser to prove the technology was not a novel invention.

eff· podcasting patent· rss feed· prior art· cnn

01:51 for the comedy award. Well, speaking of which... I don't know. Do we want to start off with this? We're going to start off with this so much the podcasting patent is actually something kind of interesting. Yeah he finally did something about that and so all the worry and fretting and oh what are we gonna do let's give our money to Adam Carolla maybe that'll fix it yeah so congratulations to EFF for

02:34 Literally, the TLDR version of this is even better than invalidating the podcasting patent. According to the documents, the court says... The concept of a compilation file with episodes or... What do they call it? I have to look it up. or URL addresses to episodes contained in the compilation file is unpatentable. Which is more than I could have hoped for because this means that an RSS feed with enclosures, which is a podcast feed, is unpatentable because of prior art But there's a few interesting things that popped up in this and first of all...I really liked reading the transcript

03:28 of the final arguments which took place in December and then, of course we have the opinion or decision of the court. But these guys... what is their name again? Audio whatever something doesn't matter They, their lawyer screwed it up. I mean big time really screwed it up this case was one on well two basic points one is that a compilation file and they actually use CNN example from CNN they had back in the day now we're talking 90 Wow 95 96 I think

04:11 They were using the mosaic browser, screenshot. Mosaic browser! That's how old this prior art was. CNN had an educational page and the argument from EFF lawyers which I want to talk about in a moment was that the compilation file did not necessarily have to be the same one, did not have to be replaced. It could be amended... They had all these extra pieces that the patent holders just didn't think to put in there and what was funny is it really came down to the difference between- The final argument was what is an episode? And what is a segment?

04:56 And the patent, this is where they screwed up. They said that the compilation file which we would just know as an RSS feed will have individual episodes that relate to each other and they argued that the CNN example was not a compilation file with episodes that related to each other because there were different topics However, they are of course related because they are segments of an overall world news show. So it really got into some very fine minute detail which these guys could have easily gotten rid if they had written their patent a little more broadly

05:34 And so the EFF ultimately prevailed. A very expensive path for EFF to take, to have a review of a patent and actually to have it busted but when you think about the implications for the internet in general if these guys had prevailed then they would've had a patent that would've applied to YouTube Because YouTube has a compilation file and there's information, and it has different segments. If you have a channel... It would've pertained to Netflix Any other video on demand service that pops up information about new episodes Everybody would have had to been paying these guys And that is probably why it wasn't EFS lawyers who actually won the case Isn't that interesting? Greenberg Taurig

CHAPTER 04 / 57 Discussion

Adam Carolla, Patent Lawsuits, and Crowdfunding Controversy

Adam Carolla's previous legal battle against patent trolls is reviewed in light of the EFF's recent victory. The hosts discuss the million dollars raised by Carolla for his defense and speculate on the status of those funds following the settlement of his case. They note that Carolla faces additional legal challenges from former employees while the broader patent issue has been resolved by the EFF.

adam carolla· patent troll· litigation· crowdfunding· charity

09:52 You know, and the whole thing I'm surprised nobody spotted this earlier. And in the meantime what happened to the million dollars that goes to Carolla? What was he supposed to do with it? Well so he did nothing with it except took the money and I guess used it for lawsuits... He's going to give it to charity. Oh yeah wasn't that the promise? Isn't he? No he's not gonna give it to charity. He has a couple of lawsuits from-I know exactly what happened with Adam Carolla now I figured it out He so Adam Carolla makes his money with his appearances with his shows and stuff like he's not making a lot of money on Podcasting and what is making? He's paying people fifty sixty thousand dollars to run his show and run a little bit of the network And yeah, well these they can have whatever is left over there And he's pulling in much bigger money. And that's why his former employers or employees are suing him His co-host is suing everyone's whooping this guy boy needs the money for suits Yeah

10:45 Anyway, so I'm incredibly happy. I just thought it was interesting that the EFF went out of house to the most expensive law firm and so yeah... So special interest groups they did this not for...I guess let's put it this way great job but we know you really did it for Google Maybe Apple is a little bit in there. Yes, because Apple already had to pay. It could have been the networks for all you know I mean it sounds to me like you're now describing it as though they had where they could go after everybody in the world who made a list shopping lists yeah yeah that compilation okay lady get over here give us five bucks for making a shopping list

11:25 I just thought that was interesting. I'm sorry, but these items are not related! I've read that patent. Milk has nothing to do with flour. Yes they do in baking a cake Well that is the patent system for sure I was happy. Yeah, I can tell yeah. I don't know why you were pretty neutral on this thing we didn't have... We weren't subject to the nasty note? That was the clue! That was the clue that were really unimportant in the universe. They sued everybody except me and you

CHAPTER 05 / 57 Discussion

Middle East Propaganda, Fluid C, and Resistance Flyers

A producer known as Fluid C reports on transport carriers dropping propaganda flyers over the Middle East. These flyers, designed to resemble currency with Arabic text, encourage local populations to resist. The hosts briefly discuss the physical appearance and intent of these psychological operations materials.

middle east· propaganda· flyers· fluid c· psychological operations

12:04 Well, they never sued anybody. They just sent nasty notes out. I never saw a note so i don't know exactly what... Yeah, Leo probably... Next time you show up here, I'm gonna ask to see the note. Since that is-I don't think it would show it but now that the case is over, moot! Mmhmm. I'll post it. Yeah? I'll post it right alongside of those flyers that they dropped in the Middle East which have been sitting over here and then I'm gonna post What fliers in the Middle East I talked about this, we had one of our producers Fluid C, one of the big transport carriers and at the end every run they fly back over to the area and throw out these little what look like dollar bills with a bunch of Arabic on them telling people to resist we much or something. Not sure what it says you already forgot. It wasn't, yeah it was something like that. But resist! We Much! Alrighty Okay lots of topics today Yes

CHAPTER 06 / 57 Discussion

Illegal Immigrant Children, Taxpayer-Funded Flights, and DHS Policy

The Daily Caller reports on a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) program that uses taxpayer dollars to fly children from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras to the United States. While critics claim it facilitates illegal immigration, government officials state the program is only for parents lawfully present in the U.S. to provide a safe alternative to dangerous smuggling routes. The program offers eligible children access to education, healthcare, and food stamps upon arrival.

dhs· illegal immigration· central america· taxpayer dollars· daily caller

13:06 Have you been getting enough sleep? Me? Yeah. Why do you ask? You seem groggy. Hold on a second... Hello, Kettle! This is the Pot calling. Who's groggy? I'm not groggy. Well if I stayed up all night working on this EFF thing and you just shot me down. Shot you down?! It's like how many people in the audience care!? I think people care in the audien- What do you mean?? I don't think anybody in our audience cares one way or another I think it's interesting that EFF doesn't use their in-house lawyers, hired these guys and you said they're an interest group. I just want to be clear that EFF is not necessarily your friend. They did a good job but they're an interest group." Well if you were Google they'd be your friend? Yes! That would be my point. Chatroom cares by the way... That's gonna be the chat room. Well there ya have it, that proves my point. Ohhhh, you are so mean!

14:10 I mean, well, I'm holding back now. Why don't you start off with something? I got a lot of stuff that nobody's covering. Uh-huh. Let's just start with this one now this I got off of the press conference. I never heard it this I didn't know anything about it. This is actually from about a week ago And I don't think anybody cares about this. It's more important than the EFF thing, but nobody cares... This is even worse in terms of anybody caring. Underreported story of the year. Our colleagues at The Daily Caller published a story reporting that potentially millions of current and former illegal immigrants now have the opportunity to fly their children to United States with taxpayer dollars

14:54 And that upon arrival, these individuals would be eligible for benefits including free education health care and food stamps. The story further alleges that this is a program being jointly administered by DHS and the Department of State." Well the first sentence you said was not true This program is not a pathway for children to join undocumented relatives in the United States. The program only allows parents from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras who are lawfully present in the United States to request U.S resettlement for children under the age of 21 who are still in one of these three countries so the parent or parents in the United States have to be lawfully present in the US

15:32 We've established this program to provide a safe, legal and orderly alternative as we talked about to this very dangerous journey that some children are currently undertaking to join parents in the United States. What's the price tag? The price tag... I don't know! Okay. Well doesn't anybody find it ridiculous if somebody comes over here on a tourist visa you know brings their wife and then they say hey by the way i want my kids here here you pay How is this not like a story that everyone's talking about? Well, because of...hmmm let me think. Global warming and climate change anything could be distracting us from that no one cares. Global warming! That's exactly it why didn't I think of it yeah I know I know it's horrible and in fact it's true here's the president on climate change The Pentagon has already said

CHAPTER 07 / 57 Discussion

Climate Change, National Security, and Surgeon General Vivek Murthy

President Obama and Surgeon General Vivek Murthy have designated climate change as a primary national security and public health threat. Murthy claims rising temperatures will increase the prevalence of asthma and tropical diseases like dengue and chikungunya in the United States. The hosts criticize these claims, suggesting the President's past smoking habits are a more likely cause for his daughter's asthma than carbon dioxide levels.

vivek murthy· climate change· asthma· pentagon· carbon pollution

16:33 Climate change is a primary national security threat that we're going to face. And we are working with the Department of Defense, uh...to start preparing for that and mitigating for that and A lot of our international policy and national security policy is centered around The very real concerns that's gonna raise So hold on second I'm let me go look out the window because I can see the bay here Is it attacking you yet? I'm looking, no it's actually a mudflat still. I don't understand that." We have a new Surgeon General his name is Vivek Murthy, I think is how you pronounce it? Young guy and he followed this has been climate change disaster week over there in Washington DC and he did... It never ceases to amaze me that these guys will do or take questions via Twitter. How stupid are they?!

17:30 You're smart. Nah, well... But the questions are always the same! Yeah that's the point Yeah, okay. Maybe just it's just what do they think they achieve out of these? You look at the top tweets on ask the surgeon general is all It's bad is just not exactly what they want as your wife hot Hey you saw my tweet Here is his now this is the thing that the president started and is now propagating which we have to put a stop To this outrageous lie I'm a change as it turns out has a number of impacts on health

18:06 Human health is affected, for example through extreme weather events. Through wildfire and decreased air quality. Yeah by being burned or drowning? By being burned to death! And through diseases transmitted by insects food and water. Diseases transmitted by insects food and water could it get any worse?! Many times people think about the direct health impact of extreme weather and issues like asthma and heat stress But there are also other impacts. Heat stress, it's gonna- we're gonna warm by two degrees and we're going to die of heat stress now? Please... That warmer temperatures can have on human health For example, warmer temperatures can increase the likelihood that insect borne diseases like dengue and chikungunya might make their way further north. Chikungunya?! Yeah no he's mixing up his diseases with his Indian food

18:55 Into the continental United States as temperatures become warmer and the climate becomes more favorable for tropical organisms to survive That was pretty well. There's one of the racist things I've ever hear you heard you say John, but it was funny Chicken Gunya sounds like a recipe. I could have done it without using the word Indian, I could have said you know, somebody had at the restaurant last night there's a lot of ways i can handle that but it seemed... I liked it quicker now let me ask you a question That wasn't racist? How is it racist? The indian people are caucasians they're just dark-skinned It was bigoted

19:33 Well, that guy was. It was bigoted. Yeah. They do have funny names for it. So the president said that one of his daughters has asthma and... Yeah he's made this claim recently. And he says hey you know this is because of carbon pollution now let's just review for a moment He doesn't really mean well if it actually is carbon pollution he's talking about but this is just a trick play on words instead of saying carbon dioxide which is what you exhale... Oh, yeah. They've been using carbon pollution for a while. You know that? Yeah we've been tracking this. Right. But I would like to say that perhaps someone should ask the president if it's maybe possible that his smoking aggravated her asthma. Well did we know he was still smoking? He smoked at least two years ago

CHAPTER 08 / 57 Discussion

Vocal Fry, Gendered Speech, and Authoritative Tone Research

The linguistic phenomenon of vocal fry, or "creaky voice," is analyzed as a growing trend among young women seeking to sound more authoritative. Research from 2010 suggests that lowering the pitch of the voice through vocal cord vibration is perceived by some as a sign of education and status. The hosts compare the trend to "uptalk" and discuss its rapid spread in media and professional environments.

vocal fry· creaky voice· gendered speech· linguistics· uptalk

20:26 I wonder if he smells like tobacco, like smoke when he comes out. Oh God that guy stinks, smells like a... Well if that's the case why not? The White House press corps, the people who bump into him should know whether he smokes or not because they would smell. They should ask from time to time Yeah I would say his secondhand smoke would have more to do with it than climate change Yes thank you Thank you Most email response topic Yeah, actually we had two of them top of the list vocal fry Oh vocal fry Yes We did get a lot of email about that and most people were on our sides and so far that it's annoying. Mm-hmm And then there was the well I think everyone agrees that it's annoying no

21:17 The, the apparently a couple of podcasts out there. I have it. I have one here calling one of our producers a racist. No, no sexist who is sexist as sexist pig? Wait a minute for this, this for claiming that one of their guests suffered from extreme vocal fry and I listened to her and she does. She does. What what podcast was that? I can't remember the name of it It's one of them is a new one that one of the new ones that she cropped up recently Someone gave me a definition of vocal fry From some Google Books medical journal. This is back goes back. I think this was published in 2010 and This was interesting to have a little snippet of it here gender and authority

22:06 The connections between gender and how one positions oneself as an authority needs much more study, but recent research indicates that even the way we produce our speech can be gendered. Women use creaky voice also called vocal fry much more than men! Creaky voice is an effect produced by vibration of the vocal cords at just one end, so sound comes through but it sounds raspy. One way to produce it...is to pronounce button without pronouncing the T. Buh-dunnnn It works! Buh-duuunnn Buh-dunnnn The sound you produce instead of the T can be prolonged and that's creaky. Creaky voice Recent research has shown that people hear it and believe that speakers are knowledgeable and educated

22:51 Yeah. Yuasa 2010. So what's this that in 2010 was becoming an epidemic? This is what is the most fascinating part of the story. Let me read on mentioned it at the last day, which is that for some reason would be with all I do There seem to be more authoritative. It sounds to me as if they're drowning! Some researchers hypothesize that young women may use it to sound more authoritative because it lowers the pitch of their voices. It is not used in every word, but can be used for a phrase or speaker's turn such as... Yeah I think I've heard of thaaaaaat It's rapid spread coincides with another phenomenon and that is a lowering of pitch in women's voices in comparison with 50 years ago. The lowering of voice pitch is significant in thinking about how women position themselves because generally speaking men have lower voices and generally more political and social power than women, and I have a fantastic example here okay of this authoritativeness and it's so fantastic because

CHAPTER 09 / 57 Discussion

Nilay Patel, Apple Watch, and Fashion Industry Vocal Fry

Nilay Patel of Vox Media is featured in a clip discussing the Apple Watch with fashion editors from The Rack. The segment highlights the prevalence of vocal fry and uptalk among fashion industry professionals. The editors express skepticism about the Apple Watch's status as a design object while acknowledging its appeal to those who want to feel important.

nilay patel· apple watch· vox media· the verge· fashion

23:52 This is a woman, it's a couple of them but I really honed in on the one who's doing it. Who has the vocal fry? One place where you can always find certainly women and some guys who want to be authoritative is in the fashion industry because no one gives a shit if you're an authority or not but if you're an authority then you can be rich famous and powerful would you agree? Yes! You are all-in. This is Nilay Patel Who by the way is the epitome of fashion. Hello, Nilay 1980 called and wants your studded bracelet back dude Have you ever seen him wearing a studded bracelet? Yeah... yeah So he takes the Apple Watch to an I guess this is one of those Vox Media or no wait is it vox? Yeah Vox Media The Rack! I think it's called The Rack I don't know It's called The Rack

24:50 It's the rack, and so he takes the Apple Watch to the women of The Rack and sits at the round table. And says what do you think? Is this going to be a fashion accessory in Hey Now Vocal Fry! But wait a minute all this seems really interesting as a tech gadget but the watch is supposed to be a fashion item as well...is it actually cool I went asked the fashion editors at Rack.com to find out Is there like a lot of interest from your readers, from young women who read a fashion magazine? Is there not a lot of interest. What's the vibe? I think that there is a certain kind of person who wants to know what's happening and wants to have the latest product immediately because it makes them feel really savvy. I feel like that's dissipating a little bit though. Like that person has to have the iPhone first. I don't know if they're going to feel that way about The Watch In terms of whether or not the fashion world will adopt it

25:33 I don't know that they're gonna adopt it as a design object. I do think this is a watch that makes you feel important and people who work in fashion like to feel important. Is this cool? Does it stand the chance of being cool? It's almost over! I think if it gets adopted all over the place, fashion people are going to find a reason to love it but I don't think they're going to love it as a beautifully designed object They yeah, well you've got you've captured fry plus up talk yes What is wrong with these women? I don't know. Well they want to be a short and up talk combined This is the next step by the way this is the future some movement that started with uptalk deteriorated into fry and now we have the combination of the two and As you recall when I played one of the clips which was with some other

26:21 Ex-sociologist said you know this is they're setting trends in the way that we communicate trend Trending well, it's not good and it will end all by itself that girl whoever she was yeah But fry from the rack. Yeah people in fashion like to be an important You can't even I can't even do with it close to it This will end if she keeps doing that. Annie, one of our producers... She'll be dead in a week. Sound like Selma and Sister Patty on The Simpsons. Well you smoked a lot when you were younger! Exactly

CHAPTER 10 / 57 Discussion

Vocal Cord Damage, Opera Training, and Megan Trainor

A trained opera singer and podcast producer warns that persistent use of vocal fry can cause physical damage to the vocal cords, leading to the development of nodes. The friction caused by rubbing vocal cords together without proper airflow is compared to a frog's croak. The hosts speculate that pop singers like Megan Trainor may face long-term voice loss due to these speech patterns.

vocal fry· nodes· megan trainor· singing· health

27:02 Annie, one of our producers who forgot to send the obligatory picture says funny you should mention vocal fry I've been trained as a singer from a young age mostly opera jowls Broadway stylings and Vocal Fry is a huge issue as far singing goes when someone does vocal fry They don't actually run the air past their vocal cords. The vocal cords are rubbing together much like when a singer Goes too high too often causing strain vocal fries. I think it's the same as a frog croaking hmm or crickets. There's no air involved. Rubbing their legs together. Hey girl, stop rubbing your legs together! Vocal fry is damaging to the vocal cords and can result in nodes which can only be removed surgically hence why I cringe every time i hear Megan Trainor's all about the bass at this rate she'll have no voice by 35

27:54 Jays buskill jr. His wife is a trained singer uh-huh and she talks about this all the time She says it's extremely damaging to do that to your voice especially if you're a singer Yeah, so we will continue. Nothing to stop this trend now We have the uptalk combination version and but we'll talk about it It's a fry-up. We call it a vocal fry-up What do you do now when you run in Utah? You mentioned last time that you ran into some people in Austin Mm-hmm Yeah doing you run into somebody that does what they were doing mm-hmm you called them out

28:38 Oh, I punch him in the gut. Usually... No, but I try not to hang around those people! It's not good! Yeah just a knee to the groin Hey stop that you could lose your voice. No good. All right, well it's our vocal fry update. We need to jingle we do this is good material I agree believe me i think listening to somebody that exaggerates that phenomenon like jill abramson Or whatever Jill Abramson Jill Abramson Abramson I think it is fascinating Endlessly fascinating Well, we have some form of very strange fascination with words and trending topics of you know sayings and stop words

CHAPTER 11 / 57 Discussion

Veterans Administration, Medical Waiting Lists, and Secretary Robert McDonald

The Associated Press reports that waiting lists for medical care at the Veterans Administration (VA) remain largely unchanged a year after a major scandal. While some administrative changes were made, the number of cases delayed by more than 90 days has nearly doubled. The hosts criticize the government's failure to provide timely care to veterans despite public "support the troops" rhetoric.

veterans affairs· va· medical care· waiting lists· robert mcdonald

29:24 Yeah, that language is fascinating. Well, you were talking about the doctor or the new surgeon general. So this clip comes to mind which is another underreported story I want to get these out of the way. Another under...it's not completely under reported because since this story came from The Associated Press but nobody is paying any attention to it. I am and I think it was kind of funny. This is the Veterans Administration story It never stops. Thousands of US veterans are still on long waiting lists for medical care a year after a scandal at the Department of Veterans Affairs The Associated Press reported today the number of veterans waiting more than 30 to 60 days for an appointment has remained virtually unchanged But cases delayed more than 90 days have nearly doubled

30:22 So they go through all this rigmarole, they have the hearings. We had a bunch of them there chewing people out to get that Porsche and Shucky guy or whoever's name the general who was running the thing it was a very famous soldier and I don't know...I tried to do the best i can and they fire him! And they put in a new guy and now it's worse? Maybe they need a little time to reset everything Or they're just waiting for the veterans to die Dead man tell no tales. That was the original intent think of the money you can save yeah, yeah But letting vets die yes them day on to care for me screw him It is sad it is sad that in this country where we ride around with support our troops and yellow ribbons And then we ate it's actually bullshit We don't actually do that that's all moral self licensing Yeah, I have a bumper sticker. I'm like crap good to go. I got a bumper sticker. I'm good to go I think people are even afraid of veterans

CHAPTER 12 / 57 Discussion

Haiti Elections, Hillary Clinton's Brother, and Gold Mining Rights

An Uber driver from Haiti provides local insights into the political and economic situation in his home country. He confirms that the granting of gold mining rights to Hillary Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, is a major point of contention for Haitians. The discussion also touches on the presence of sulfur mines in Port-au-Prince and the continued displacement of 160,000 people living in tents since the 2010 earthquake.

haiti· hillary clinton· tony rodham· gold mines· sulfur

31:15 I mean, they're all crazy. They portray these crazy nut jobs out there. They know how to use guns! They can turn on us. We got a certification that came through... For us? No unfortunately but it is good for our program, our little broadcast here Pursuant to the authority vested in the Secretary of State, included under Section 7045E... Department of State. I hereby certify that Haiti is taking steps to hold free and fair parliamentary elections and seat a new Haitian Parliament. Is selecting judges in a transparent manner- Why don't we just play shows from four years ago? I think we could take a break here! Uh instead of that, I got very lucky this weekend. OOBAR! We've kept in The Loop with a super duper group of Uber Spots

32:04 That's right. That's right. Official segment? Yes, I had a driver from Haiti. I am on pins and needles! You should be now i'm gonna try and do this segment is that this isn't the first official segment... I'm sorry you're not going to do with a Haitian accent I hope no but I will use his Haitian accent because of course I recorded it I have to say the iPhone 6, the memo recorder is pretty good. It's okay. I'm just holding that, you know...I'm sitting in the backseat just kind of pointing it kind of his way so i think-i was very excited by this conversation and actually we drove 20 minutes in the wrong direction because i had a road instead or street instead of road. Oh yeah that's a problem

32:49 And I was like, hey wait a minute. We're almost in Bastrop. Do you want street? Do you want road? Do you want avenue or are you looking for boulevard? My mistake! But it was okay because I got 20 minutes with this guy, which have chopped down into little 20 second segments. Not the whole 20 minutes obviously but I learned things...I was able to ask questions that had been bugging me and so I just started up...this is chronologically the way it panned out. No other broadcast operation would do even think to do this! This is genius! And not only that but we did not get permission

33:25 He did not sign a release and he shall go as unnamed. Unnamed is good, yeah? Then let's get it going with just off the bat and you know me I'll jump in all that You gotta get the guy going you got to throw some facts out there that we know And then do you see the...and he was 41 he's driving uber but he's studying part-time to be a Medivac nurse i think or something or something like that And right off the bat, here's where he went with what he found strange of the things happening in his country. There you go! The gold mines... So this is a big topic in Haiti that Hillary's brother was

34:25 given the sole, I believe he's the only person to have the rights to export gold from mines. So this is bothering the Haitians and I thought it would but now we have confirmation Next How many people are still living in tents? What did we think it was John? I don't remember our estimates You know what...I'm asking myself really It's fucked up But how many people are still in tents a hundred thousand Uh, maybe. 160 thousand? 160 thousand but all is well in Haiti ladies and gentlemen What are they after of course the oil that he says that the oil The Haitian oil goes although it's so deep and so vast He says it goes almost all the way to Jamaica which I'm inclined to believe But he mentioned something else which I didn't know And he seems That's an interesting point Yeah oh yeah

35:22 But there's another one, and this is you as a chemical engineer will probably appreciate this. I had no idea it seems to be important. Oil, the gold mine... And so far they haven't said anything about the sulfur mine. Now let me ask, the sulfur mine? What's the sulfur mine? It's somewhere in Port-au-Prince actually. Oh really? That's also worth a lot. Yeah. Is sulfur a big deal? Is that important? We have so much excess sulfur I can't see how it can be, but I could be wrong. It's not a chemical engineer. Although I took chemical engineering in college. It's a byproduct of refining, I think. Yeah, big time.

CHAPTER 13 / 57 Discussion

Earthquake Machines, Sean Penn, and Haitian Philanthropy

The Haitian Uber driver discusses local rumors regarding "earthquake machines" and the 2010 disaster. He offers a positive assessment of actor Sean Penn's philanthropic work in Haiti, noting that Penn is physically present on the ground building houses. This stands in contrast to the driver's skepticism regarding the Clinton and Bush foundations' handling of aid money.

haiti· sean penn· earthquake machine· conspiracy· philanthropy

36:03 So for some reason there's a minor that we did. There's it unless there's a new use for sulfur around the corner someplace I don't see I Don't know either, but I thought it was interesting he brought about okay well Did I just put down work an eye out all right now? We get into my wheelhouse Haiti once had issues with earthquake That was way back like 140 years ago or something yeah alright So I asked him said was not strange that earthquake that just you never really have an earthquake there And then you get a really big one the way this one happens Some say it was tested to be right It could have been manifest. Yeah

36:49 It could have been what manifested oh I see. Oh is this on the second half of the show? Oh, this was in the uber man He said oh yeah We all kind of know about we all kind of know about the earthquake machine All right now we're gonna now a question that has been on my mind about Haiti and I was finally able to ask this Sean Penn is he good guy or not? A good guy. He's a good guy. Okay, that's what I'm hoping because I like he's a good guy You know from the grapevine you can hear it a lot of people say they don't believe Clinton Sold the money But

CHAPTER 14 / 57 Discussion

Clinton Foundation, Bush Foundation, and Missing Haiti Aid

The conversation with the Haitian driver shifts to the billions of dollars in aid money collected after the 2010 earthquake. The driver alleges that much of the $6 billion in aid was funneled through the Clinton and Bush foundations without reaching the Haitian people. He emphasizes that Bill Clinton is viewed as the primary power player in these dealings rather than Hillary.

clinton foundation· bush foundation· haiti aid· corruption· bill clinton

37:48 I feel the government should have never allowed Hillary's brother to be in control of the mine. You know, there is no news here and no one talks about it. It is interesting that Sean Penn is now on that train trying to let everybody know that Hillary's brother got the mine. It was funny you bring up Sean Penn because cruising the channels and I stopped on the Glenn Beck program, the TV version. Not the radio version that's repurposed but the original. And he went into a big rant about Sean Penn being a good guy He says he hates his politics, he doesn't like warming up to Chavez and all the rest. But when Sean Penn goes to feed somebody because he's a philanthropist that actually goes and does it for people... And cooks for people! ...and he actually does it. Yeah. You know? He is there on the ground. He isn't some guy writing checks. Correct. Now he's building houses and doing other things

38:47 Yeah, he seems to really like Haiti. No one talks about that. The US not even... I know! And they are saying it's not just the Clinton family... The Bush family too? Yes! Because they money first went to... Can you stop leading the witness?! I'm just telling this for future shows Okay. The money went first, went to Clinton Foundation and the Bush Foundation that's where the money went first. And did you guys know aware that there was 600 million dollars collected for eight? That's six billion! Dingo boom boom shakalaka boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom We just need cash. Yayyyy Now that- that's better than... That's not leading the witness when you correct him Right

39:47 So I don't want to discourage that. Okay, you're correct but this is not an expert witness he's driving a car! He's not in the witness stand he's driving a car...I gotta prompt the guy, I got to help him a little bit Yes, you are correct What you're doing is keeping yourself from the edit bay Yeah, I'm trying You could just edit later but I know you hate posts so I understand it Now, I think we're going to learn something incredibly new in a moment. But first the history and the problem with Haiti...

CHAPTER 15 / 57 Discussion

Haitian History, Currency Debasement, and US Influence

The Uber driver reflects on Haiti's history as the only nation to successfully overthrow a colonial power and its subsequent economic struggles. He attributes the country's poverty to the debasement of the Haitian currency during the George H.W. Bush administration, which destroyed the nation's export economy. He expresses a cynical view that the U.S. is gradually taking over the country by co-opting its intelligent citizens.

haiti· currency· exports· bush sr· colonialism

40:24 And I'm going to lead the witness again, I think in this. But he's going to tell us what the problem is with Haiti why Haiti is allowing the citizens to be steamrolled. The problem of Haitians right? I'm gonna say this and my father, my godfather these guys they used to say it and It started not even with Diwali, the father but the son really Haitians do not want to unite for greater good of their country. But they did it against France, you're the only country ever to get rid of the... Exactly! All those few blocs is gone because that was.. You're the only country in the world that has gotten rid of a colonial power. Yeah yeah. You see? The whole, the main nitty-gritty of it comes down

41:14 If you find 10% of the Haitians who want to see better for Haiti, the government here and there will wipe that 10%. They only need one or two people. What he's saying is... Yeah okay Charlie Rose by the way how do you come up with this? They're the only country in the world that got rid of a colonial power hello India the United States All of Africa? I'm not a historian, i'm an Uber passenger. Okay.

41:52 Remember back in the 80s when the US currency and the Asian currency was equal? When Bush Sr. came in power, he said F no! We owe these guys so much money for their money to be equal value to our money let's just kill it So they debased the currency and that is when everyone went broke They killed the idea of export Once you are on the import You know, that was of course something we already knew but good to have a refresher on the history that when the currency was no longer parity with the dollar they had no way to export and make any money and now they import everything.

42:33 huh once the country can only import and you guys have to import your fucking rice everything is imported as far as export good coming out of haiti they shut that see we used to have coco sugar and now no more so and you know what's funny if you go in new york alone you'll find so many millionaire Haitians yeah you lose count but yet Try to unite about ten of those guys and say listen. Let's go do it Right right, I'm gonna say hell no you know what's Gonna happen our family friends everybody gonna get murdered So if you wanted yeah He says it twice in this if you want to be one to change anything Haiti you get killed and the Haitians have turned into a bunch of pussies

43:24 who do not want to do anything for their country. Because they're gonna get killed? Yes, because they're gonna get killed exactly! Here's the future of Haiti... It's really bad my old man he said you know what kid the way haiti is going give it about 20-30 years down the road It's gonna be owned by the US once again from the get-go. Remember way back, the U.S wanted to take over Haiti just like they did to Puerto Rico Come to realize hey you know what? It might not be as educated as we thought they are but they will fucking cut our heads pour blood and build up another fort out of our blood Let's do it from bottom up

CHAPTER 16 / 57 Discussion

Pras Michel, Wyclef Jean, and Haitian Political Ambitions

Pras Michel, a former member of the Fugees, is reportedly seeking political influence in Haiti ahead of upcoming elections. The Uber driver describes Pras as a "cockroach" attempting to follow the path of Wyclef Jean and Michel Martelly. While young Haitian entrepreneurs are doing significant work on the ground, the driver claims they are often overshadowed by celebrity figures seeking office.

pras michel· wyclef jean· haiti· fugees· elections

44:04 We're gonna sneak our way in and start grabbing the intelligent ones and turn them around on our side. And that's what they are doing." So, they're stupid too is what he's saying? There are some intelligent ones and you put them on the US side! Millionaires floating around New York... And with these new elections coming up which have just been proclaimed by John F Kerry Which they're transparent, everything is good to go. We have a new player on the scene. Praz is trying to- This is...Praz Have you heard of Praz? No I didn't know who it was either until he explained it to me. Praz is trying do a lot and trust me A lot of people say hey you know what? Praz is trying get in the group. Praz, the guy who used to be with Rightcliff

44:52 So this is one of the Fuji's. We had Wyclef Jean, he got kicked out because he was on track to become the nominee for President. for president and he got all, you know he's too big for his britches and he was flying around in the Clinton jet too much. And they got rid of him! Then they brought in sweet Mickey Martelli another musician...and now there is another guy from the Fugees who is trying to weasel into action as well which I think will see maybe this election. Oh yeah he doing a lot in Haiti right now Is he trying to do good stuff?

45:31 He's trying, but everybody even my older brother he said you know this cockroach is just trying to get in good relations with the Haitians. That way he can run for office right? My brother say this kid is a cockroach. He sneak it and just like the others. And you know the funny thing till today in Brooklyn New York right there's a huge Haitian community There is an association called Young Haitian Entrepreneur Yeah, and these guys they did so much when that earthquake happened But nobody even damn to recognize what? So the young Haitian entrepreneurs are actually doing the good work And no one cares about them and pros is a cockroach who's trying to sneak in and get into good graces And we should see him running for an election soon now Something new that we can learn health related regarding these on man

CHAPTER 17 / 57 Discussion

Zanman Leaf, Pfizer, and Hypertension in Haitian Immigrants

Haitian immigrants frequently suffer from hypertension, which the Uber driver attributes to the loss of access to the Zanman leaf tea used as a traditional remedy. He alleges that Pfizer attempted to commercialize the plant and subsequently replaced natural crops with ineffective alternatives. The discussion explores the side effects of pharmaceutical blood pressure medications like Lipitor compared to traditional Haitian herbal treatments.

zanman· pfizer· hypertension· blood pressure· haiti

46:29 I'm pretty sure you've never heard of the Zanman. No! It's a tropical almond and the Zanman, it doesn't even have a Wikipedia page if you take the leaves... Yes yes If you take the leaves of the Zanman and you boil them and drink tea out of it, it lowers your blood pressure And is used as a blood pressure medication or hypertension medication by Haitians. And I was like, okay fine which doctor stuff? And I looked around and I found the nationalinstituteofhealth.gov a study definitive in management of hypertension among Haitian immigrants, a qualitative study and what they found is that immigrants in United States from Haiti all had hypertension high blood pressure

47:22 And they looked at a number of hypotheses as to why this could be. Obviously, you know your family may be back home in Haiti living in a tent pooping out cholera that might give you some hypertension but maybe just the idea that you're in a different country... But one of the things they found in the study is that Haitians did not have access to the Zanman leaf which they use to make tea and then it reduces hypertension So it's a natural product. Guess what happened? Zaman is, it has almond seed inside of it where you can eat or so it's the leaves that they use for high blood pressure to drink the tea when Pfizer find out about it so they went to Haiti and hire all these farmers to cultivate enough and then for some reason some people say others

48:15 I don't know if you could hear that but he's saying that Pfizer came in when they heard about this plant, this tree and they hired all the farmers cultivated all the plants. Pfizer of course makes what is the blood pressure? I don't know if it's Lipitor, it's one of them. There is all those...any one of the number of them. And then after they were done and whatever was left or replanted those plants don't work anymore. The theory here is that they took all the good plants and stuck them with some genetically modified crap that doesn't work anymore

49:03 Why would you do something like that to a country? A poor freaking Togglecountry! Oh, oh. Clint hold on a second your people are brown It's no good We are experts at killing brown people if you don't live in the sand You see if you're not like in the Middle East it's easier for the drones I just wanted to see if I could make him laugh about his skin color So this is Zanman I think because its z-a-n-m-a-n-n Very interesting plant Yeah, I knew you would be searching for it. Well there's actually a Zanman dot org which has been taken down for some reason so I guess... By Pfizer? It was interesting awhile ago and then it's not interesting anymore. Uh-huh. Well I don't know if that's... I'm not buying that conspiracy nonsense that Pfizer came in and screwed him They haven't even studied the thing

49:56 I mean, after they studied it maybe. Well, they have studied it. Whatever the case...I think is a possibility just looking at the logic of it even though this sort of analysis is dubious because it's reverse and now you're pushing that there's a certain word for this. He said, I didn't start with the Pfizer thing he started with that. Yeah yeah still Pfizer is evil whatever the case is. Is it possible? that Zanman, because if... and they wouldn't destroy something like this because from the sounds of it. If these guys all come over here with high blood pressure, all of them, and then they relied on Zanman is it possible that you get? It's like a vitamin C where you get scurvy once you stop taking it. There is something in the research paper

50:46 And this is written in kind of Creole, whatever they speak there. Oh I can take metzen leaf, zanman leaf... ...I have my garden outside whenever i need it just go outside and boil them when I'm done drinking these leaves. I pee a lot, it lowers my blood pressure. The leaf lowers the blood pressure more than the pill. Now they're talking about the Lipitor that's being given here You can get addicted to the pill you keep taking the pill the doctor gave you but its not good for your intestines When you stop taking the pill you feel very sick So here are people who were feeling fine for whether it's placebo or whatever it is, they were feeling fine and then they were put on the Lipitor or whatever medication. It's not specified and they feel that get hooked on it and they don't feel good. They get side effects We all know the side effects of these pills. Yeah anal leakage Imagine you're from Haiti and all sudden anal leakage is popping out? This no good Well thats interesting Whatever the case

CHAPTER 18 / 57 Discussion

Uber Driver Wrap-up, Car Accident, and New York Cabbies

The segment concludes with the driver's final thoughts on the "Clinton brother-in-law" mining scandal. Adam Curry then describes getting side-swiped by a Toyota FJ Cruiser in Austin shortly after the interview. This prompts John C. Dvorak to share an anecdote about a Russian taxi driver in New York City who retaliated against a tailgater by kicking a dent into their car.

uber· car accident· toyota fj cruiser· russian cabbie· new york

51:47 Zonmon yeah, well keep an eye out for that. Yeah, and then you learn something yes Well I learned a lot of things I learned about the Haitians being dumb and cowardly Cowardly which he's pissed off about because they get killed if they try to do anything That way yeah We have a new guy who works we have a new guy to look out for Pras And we should be seeing him popping up in in the run-up to these elections another musician from this same group I learned about Zanman and well this was the only really conspiratorial thing about the Clintons which i don't believe. The thing is there's so many people in Haiti right now with hundreds and hundreds of pages of dossier against Clinton, the young group back there that's robbing the gold. Who? You know Hillary's brother yeah

52:43 Clinton brother-in-law and nobody can bring those document up here yet, but they're trying to funnel it through messages and email. Okay sure yeah because that's so hard. It's impossible to get in the United States they try to maybe sneak it into my mail I preface this call an attachment I preface this by saying that was conspiratorial The thing I did like is when I said Hillary's brother, he categorically says Clinton's brother-in-law. See they don't even view Hillary as a player over there it's all Bill It's all about Bill. Oh I noticed that! Yeah yeah he keeps saying it the brother in law the brother in law Brother in Law? Yeah we would... We call him Bill. Oh! I spoke to my brother

53:39 There you go. OOOBAAAARRR! You're kept in the loop, with a super duper group of uber spies! There ya go That's a good segment that needs to be worked on And uh it's the first time and I tried to do another segment on the way home And this guy was... I didn't even get into the whole conversation. We got side swiped by another car, so... What? Yeah! And it just gotten through via the guys like oh but love this car you know is that yeah there's a nice Audi A6 i think yeah that's very nice car and then I'm I love Audis can afford them anymore but I'd loved them in a... Some guy hit ya?! Some lady. Oh jeez Asian chicken one of those Toyota Jeeps

54:26 Yeah, just moved over to the right. Swiped right into us. Huh... Well I don't know what to tell you. Nothing? Did I tell my two stories about my two cab accidents in New York City? No. Well the only one that was interesting was uh... I'm coming out of JFK in a brand new cab And it's a Russian driver, and I didn't think to interview him. But this is Russian driver and we're coming to a stop sign somebody plows into him He goes back and looks at the, you know it actually wasn't much damage but there was like a ding or something in his bumper. And he's just like I'm thinking to myself I just got here now i have to deal with this But no turns out the cabbie goes over to the guy who is behind there with his window closed and he's kind of looking up this big Russian guy and he takes him, well he has these big boots on and kicks a huge dent into the guys door As one does yes

55:32 And then he gets back in the cab, he says now we're even and we drive into town. Well there you go that's justice here in Texas We are very polite I'm sorry I hate you I'm so sorry You don't know what someone is packing Yeah it was true It was a Toyota FJ Cruiser which side swiped us Oh okay Not like when people in the chat room go There's no such thing as that! There's no Toyota Jeep! There's no Toyota Jeep? Doesn't matter Is this a Toyota Jeep? I'm not gonna argue They have a bunch of four by five, four wheel drive cars. They have one that looks almost like a Jeep and then there's this newer one looks like kind of a gumball thing. I'm just not going to argue. Which i rented once it was kind of cool looking but and roomy and four-wheel drive too you can offroad these Toyotas. I don't know who in the chatroom what they're talking about probably something do with

CHAPTER 19 / 57 Discussion

Show Art, 7-Eleven Logo, and Producer Contributions

The hosts credit Jay Young for creating the episode's album art, which parodies the 7-Eleven logo. They discuss the creative process of the show's regular artists and the role of the live chat room in providing feedback on visual contributions.

album art· jay young· 7-eleven· no agenda· chat room

56:26 Citric acid we need a bite of weed They smoked too much weed in the chat room that place is a health house You get a contact high just from watching that thing be careful about that and with that John Maybe I should just say well, I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John see We're have nothing Dvorak. Yeah Wow now you got me stunned. I've been expecting their one-liners on the middle initial oh Anyway, in the morning to you Adam Curry. Also in the morning to all ships at sea and all the boots on the ground and all the feet in the air and the subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. So it doesn't rhyme anymore.

57:04 the smoky chat room, listening live at the stream noagendastream.com in the morning to our artistes who always are somehow able to pull great album art out of their collective rear ends Jay Young did the art for us this was a good one this was the show 7-Eleven and he took the 7-Eleven logo above I guess the big gulp cup and incorporated it into No Agenda logo we immediately said yes this is it nice piece It was thoughtful, creative. I don't know it had all the elements we're looking for which sometimes are hard to explain but the artists all know and i'm sure when Martin J, Jay Nick Dorrat any of our regulars who keep coming in there's a bunch of other ones obviously and they

57:54 when they do one that is a known... They can tell themselves, ah! I've done it. Nailed it yeah exactly well they try it out in the chat room sometimes take a look at this which I think where they get distracted where they're trying to uh where their trying too you know get some consensus or something and then you know you know the chat room Yeah And not really now they make mistakes That's great Nick! and of course we don't choose because its Not the right one. I think they should have a kind of dead pool in the chat room and who would art can actually make it now this program betting they get a betting this let's thank a few people for show 712 let's do that Steven Berkowitz in Pembroke Pines Florida 350 $9.30 Adam & John Stephen B in South Florida again just helping fill that cute little kittens donation bowl while making my way to knighthood

CHAPTER 20 / 57 Discussion

Donation Segment, Spotlight Search, and LGY Jingle

During the donor thank-you segment, Adam Curry explains how he reorganized his jingle system using a customized Spotlight Search on Mac OS X. He discusses the technical challenges of indexing audio files and the origin of the "LGY" (Little Girl Yay) jingle. Donations from Steven Berkowitz, Ryan Jones, and Marky Boy are acknowledged.

donations· spotlight search· mac os x· jingles· lgy

58:57 Here's some pie, 31415 in LA. Happy birthday 4515 so this is a pie so he's asking for a Fletcher Fletcher Fletcher shout which can I get a Mac and cheese? I was gonna play the the Fletchers that we have from last last show Let's play him right at the end of this little segment Okay Can I get a mac and cheese LG Y and some awesome no agenda karma it really works We are still doing the Fletcher if were if we're still doing the Fletcher shouts yes, we are can I get a dr.. B Thanks from FEMA region for a doctor be Dr.. B. Dr.. Be I don't know I have no idea to be I have no idea what that is John Berkowitz he's a doctor oh for him. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the jingles like Somewhere there must be a jingle to do it doc okay? I'm sorry Wow all right that was that was okay gotcha um So you want some LG why not sure

59:55 Where our LGY kid is. I've been trying, here we go... I've been trying out some new things with the jingle machine. Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. There we go. Karma! What are you doing different? You reorg? Did you do a re-org? Yeah, here's what I've done since you asked. I typically had three different windows open—Finder Windows on the Mac with Jingles, Evergreens and Currents. And now I'm using...I finally was able to customize the Spotlight Search on OS X which I typically hate

1:00:39 just because especially when it's indexing and just craps your computer for a long time. But anyway, I spent 12 hours over the weekend letting it index everything and now I can just search for with some luck search for whatever I'm looking forward just by typing in and will only pick up MP3s or you know whatever other audio format there is AACs or even WAV files And so that's on that should make it what do you do? You got a little girl yay, which we are everyone always refers to the same way. Which is LG why yeah but it's in I know from experience that it is Yay. Why such as yay y type and yay. There has to be a lot of yeas now I type in YA H and I get us Yeah by the way oh man he's why let me ask your question. Yeah Did you get enough sleep No

1:01:37 I knew you were. But why, as you said? I have to correct you. I can't let that go. That...I know what it's called! Okay, I'm gonna change it. Right now I'm going to change this jingle and change the name to LGY so I can never find it again You'll find it Fine Marky Boy is coming in here So what time did you go to sleep? I went to sleep uh.. I don't know Marky boy 333 It was the night before where I didn't get enough sleep It was really not last night And I'm trying to catch up and you can't catch up on sleeping Would you mind not catching up on the show Marky Boy on Brandington, Florida. 333-333 long time listener since episode 68 so I call that there's a name for that Paleolithic era mainly 1111 donor people who don't donate are heartless wankers yes

1:02:30 Calling out Ewan, Ewan, Ewan. For being a douchebag. Douchebags may be enough for a nighting but I'm too drunk to add keep up the great work Marky Let me see...I think we have one nighting today i don't know if it's We do have one he is not listening No that's not him so We'll do some work and find out Keep drinking You're on the right path. Keep taking a shot at it. Ryan Jones in Quantico, Virginia 31415 this is another John Fletcher yell out thanks can be given to sir who's ever of cyberspace if possible I'd love a John Fletcher to yell cyber as a ringtone all right that's noted

CHAPTER 21 / 57 Discussion

Newcomer Engagement, Show 200.6, and Inside Baseball

A listener suggests dedicating time to explain the show's "inside baseball" terminology to help newcomers stay engaged. The hosts debate whether this would bore long-time listeners and recommend that new fans listen to "Show 200.6" for a historical overview. They compare their audience dynamic to Jim Rome's "Jungle" and emphasize the show's nature as a piece of performance art.

newcomers· show 200.6· performance art· jim rome· inside baseball

1:03:15 Down to associate executive producers with Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, also known as James Pyers in Escondido California. $228 and 11 cents. ITM John and Adam a minor recommendation to approve an already amazing show my dad is a no agenda guy at heart but he has a hard time with the show as a newcomer yeah he told me he does not understand all the inside baseball well don't give him today's show And so he lost interest. You know, the way I see these two guys are boring. My suggestion is that during a show we can't do that with the show is a piece of performance art it goes the way it goes It could be boring, it could be lively at the beginning, boring in the middle, it could never boring, it could all boring you know? He's gotta have faith! That's the thing

1:04:08 My suggestion is that during a show, a little time is dedicated each week to explaining the background of no agenda in the spirit of show 200.5 and six." I have an idea! Have him listen to show 200... Point five and six. Actually point 6 covers most of 200.5 so don't just that's good enough Old-timers love your stories and explanations, and the newcomers might be more likely to stay engaged if they understand some of the background history. And then to interrupt him I would also say that old timers might be bored stiff if we keep

1:04:44 repeating what's obvious to them. Yeah, maybe Jen we rely on them more than we rely on newcomers. We just hope for the best with them. Maybe just a few minutes each show is all it would take. Now I think you should direct every every newcomer to the chat room they will be very helpful. Will never get any new listeners now now now. Geez what a sick thing that tell people Although, I suppose if you went in...I've done this. I've been in chat rooms like this. You go in there and you ask questions and if you're lucky one sane helpful person will actually help you right before you get kicked off

1:05:27 Well, I don't think our guys kick off that much. Am i wrong? No only you when you come in that's what yeah I went into the chat room once and I got immediately tossed now do you see how I did that by now explain some inside some legacy of the show as to why your cranky about the chat room That is part of the problem yes Anyway, old-timers love your stories and explanations. Newcomer's might be stay engaged maybe a few minutes I thought John's recent comments regarding Jim Rohn Rome's jungle audience was relevant in the above context Isis yes it says true that's true. That's true. I agree It's kind of your research observation science And wit keep me on my toes and the fact that you two enjoy making this show as much as we enjoy listening its unique So I guess it is if you think about it

1:06:16 So thanks to both of you for your courage. Please extend happy birthday wishes to my son EJ, Noah Jenna listener who is 11 on the 12th? Yep, we'll get it 11 on the 12th 11 on the 12th Karma and mac and cheese life in melon head clip for EJ and some job karma for me or rack him this is a general uh... all case and i think you don't second other one of the sorry wrong show which are wire of the individual aka jim pyres s candidate on cds that he's asking for john kerry we'll have anything from melancholy carry that that week that is that won't make you cry I believe we don't. Oh, I don't remember a jingle or any sort of a clip of Melonhead. I don't either Yeah, I don't think so would so you were skipping that yeah then i'll just give just to the mac and cheese that's okay Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand You've got karma there you go There you good good all right And happy birthday Dave Bozeman in

CHAPTER 22 / 57 Discussion

Monty Python Requests, Real Estate Karma, and Donor Credits

The hosts process various donor requests, including a search for a Monty Python "Bring Out Your Dead" clip. James Graham requests "real estate karma" due to inspection delays on a home purchase. The segment reinforces the policy of giving executive producer credits to high-tier donors while acknowledging the community's unique sense of humor.

monty python· karma· real estate· donations· james graham

1:07:18 from Wilmington, North Carolina $200 to George and Ira Gershwin of Podcasting. Today's episode about vocal frying made me get back on track with my donations I was so happy to hear that it wasn't just me that was annoyed by this trend. I wonder if young women have adopted the Valley girl vocal fry speak which is the combo which we played earlier as a sort of self-defense mechanism to keep older people away from them? Well, that's possible. It works! I'm a 50-something year old yogi and sometimes have the pleasure of being around beautiful 20 something yoga women. I am of course visually attracted but when I hear most of them speak, I am repulsed. Ta da! Works. Like to hear the clippity clopping aka Monty Python not lady pants suit my way to knighthood thank you for keeping me sane ish

1:08:15 I'm not sure what i get for $200 but read all or nothing and if i get a jingle, i miss reverend al. Well first of all to reiterate We have a policy here if you're an executive producer or you are an associate executive producer, we thank you at the more around the beginning of the show and read as much of your note as we can. Or is that what you want? That's kind of the policy he misses Reverend now we played Reverend earlier but of course... You've got karma. Amen, fist bump! No not to correct you but he specifically didn't want the pantsuit Clippity-Clop Oh I'm sorry

1:09:04 What does he want? There's no clippity-clop a la Monty Python. I thought we had the bring out your dead clip or something like that, but I think that's so lost and... You mean what she says we came, we saw, we killed him? No, no, you know he's talking about uh... He said Monty Python did he say Monty Python Yeah well what Monty Python is he thinking about? I think to bring out your dead it was a clip we played a long time ago i think it was the one he's talking about where the guy's clipping along in a weird thing of cart And he's yelling bring out your dead. I have no idea what you're talking about You don't even remember from the movie? No, huh all right well which one the holy grail? All those three movies that life of Brian Holy Grail and the other when they all to me run together as one movie I only have one Clip that is outside of outside of the clippity-clop okay And you may sing along John if you know the words

1:10:11 Sit on my face and tell me that you love me I'll put it in the show notes. You can listen to the rest later, okay? Yeah Crazy song it's a great song all right here we go James Graham in Fairfield, Connecticut. $200 I need karma for over a year now we've been requesting real estate karma We thought it was working this morning We found out that the seller never scheduled inspections for the work they did and the inspector won't be around until after our closing date Oh no And by the way This is a problem everywhere inspectors if people want a good job you wanted lifetime employment become a building inspector

1:10:56 It's good money, you get good retirement benefits and you just don't... You do it when you feel like it. Anyway he says we can't close ARG so I'm doubling down on a lucky episode even though you've already started recording happy birthday to my husband Craig oh we have to put him down yeah I'm sure he's not listed no I got him now I got him now happy birthday but to my husband Craig who I am still madly in love with despite having a cursed apartment complete with a hate couch instead of a loveseat Wow, okay. That's Jamie Okay Onward to us. Oh, she didn't that's it give her a karma She wants a karma this way salute You've got Karma I think I understand what would the Monty pipe? I believe that

1:11:43 Dave, who wanted Monty Python. Maybe he thinks that when you just send in a note that I could make a clip...I'm downloading a movie and clipping out the relevant bits? I have no other idea why they would—we've never played anything like that. I think that was played. Okay. Oh we do have one more here! I see one more associate executive producer Yes, Sir Christopher Dolan who wrote in nothing and I don't see any email from him. But he's constantly helping from Brookline Massachusetts and that's $200. Thank you Chris Are you sure we didn't get a note? I'll just double check to make sure... I looked but couldn't find it unless he uses a different name when he sends email Okay, I don't see it either

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Raspberry Pi Backups, Bill Hudek, and iTunes Criticism

Producer Bill Hudek has developed an automatic backup recording system for the podcast using a Raspberry Pi. This leads to a discussion about the technical failures of iTunes, which the hosts describe as a "horrible piece of legacy code." They criticize Apple for failing to improve the software despite its central role in the podcasting ecosystem.

raspberry pi· bill hudek· backups· itunes· apple

1:12:27 A couple of PR mentions, just brief- actually not even PR mentions. Just something I wanted to mention First of all, karma to Fletcher by the way Someone ran a red light and banged up his Jetta So i want to give him some car de-denting karma You've got Karma And also I wanted to thank Bill Hudek who has created an automatic backup recording system for the best podcast in the universe, which is... it's really I asked him to send me some details on how he made it. He's even going to fit this whole thing onto a raspberry pi so you can just have a little card

1:13:08 You get the SD card. We'll pre burn them and anyone can then become a backup recording device for the show But you could also use it for other Other streamed podcasts, I think was good device to spy on people Yes, John that's exactly what I was thinking No, it's it's a fine let me hook this up to your machine all right We will be doing another show on Thursday. We'll be thanking everybody else in our Thank you segment a bit later on the program and these credits the executive producer and associate executive producer Credits are real ones unlike the phonies in Hollywood will be very happy to vouch for ya devorek org slash Everybody can always do this simple task of going out there and propagating the formula Our formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth

1:14:03 Amen. It's like the hitting him with a mouth thing. Last we had the show I read from the card, and in there it says my husband hit me in the mouth or finally hit my husband in the mouth about this show Mimi was reading she was going through the mail and she said when she goes to go read the card what is this from? And so she's reading this thing and she says what is... She says are there... Is this guy wife beater? I don't understand. Nice!

1:14:55 I said, oh you've heard the show. But yeah, I guess that thing we play, that little ditty right there where it says our job is to hit people in the mouth which has become kind of a meme for turning people onto the show...I had to actually explain it to her even though she's listened to hundreds of shows. Yeah! The first hundred Yes. But then she quit. True, here's what it is... She comes off as very authoritative on Facebook in the no agenda group like she knows everything yeah now it goes like this The iTunes thing doesn't work. I can't download from iTunes! She still uses an iPod, and so when she's on your phone she says it doesn't work. Nothing works! I get the sense that sometimes they say operator error is involved here. Well yeah of course... iTunes does suck. I don't understand why somebody hasn't topped it?

1:15:54 Well, because it's become an integral part of... well they're trying. They're trying to move it away the app store you know they moved that out and used to get all your apps there and they're trying but this is a horrible piece of code that is just legacy that they're gonna have to get rid of one day It was horrible from the get-go how many years has it been? Yeah since the most since the iPod came out The first one I think yeah Right Oh, here's the Fletcher Fest jingles. These are from Thursday show. Anonymous! That's a great one that can obviously be used for many people Here's my next one Ed Moffo in charge! Gil Byrd And then Matt Bosch Did we get the one where he yells internet?

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Hillary Clinton Medley, Sniper Fire Claims, and White House Furniture

A compilation of Hillary Clinton's most controversial public statements is played, including her claims of landing under sniper fire in Bosnia and being "dead broke" upon leaving the White House. The hosts revisit the 2001 reports that the Clintons took historic furniture from the White House when their term ended. They analyze her rhetorical style and the "vast right-wing conspiracy" narrative.

hillary clinton· sniper fire· benghazi· white house furniture· conspiracy

1:16:46 Yeah, we got that a while ago I think. Oh, I missed it... Now do you post these on the show notes? No, I haven't done that yet. You're gonna post them as one large file maybe? INTERNET! There you go. We have to hit the cutoff date then i'm going to publish all of them so everyone can grab them but also hopefully some of our mixers are musicality mixers or musical directors Greg Fillinganes, everybody. Musical director for the best podcast in the universe can put together a cool little track Okay, well I've got something for them then. And in fact for anyone who wants to put together a medley of Hillary clips this is a small selection and I know there's more like he died he died he rewalked whatever it is He came when he died. I know where you don't have that. You didn't put this together yourself? No, I didn't put it together. I pulled from the television From the television yeah the telly Yeah, this gets funny. They're in color now. High def

1:17:48 Oh, yeah. Well not... Yeah Anyway this is the Hillary medley of clips that I would recommend people help and expand The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it Is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president I don't feel no ways tired! I've come too far! that the road would be easy. Landing under sniper fire

1:18:26 There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles. To get to our base The fact is that we had four dead Americans Was it because of a protest or was it guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference does this point make We came out of the White House not only dead broke but in debt Uh...we had no money when we got there and we struggled piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea's education. It was not easy." Now you'll put this in the show notes so people can get it without stuff in the middle? Yeah well that was nice I recommend people get by the way that last bit

1:19:14 It reminds me of something we talked about on the show, and it is another thing everyone forgets about Hillary. When they left the White House broke that they were stealing furniture. Yeah there was... I do remember this! I do remember this! They were moaning about how a bunch of furniture was being carted out of the White House. I like that chair let's take it home. I do remember lemme see if I can find this if it's still uh hmm I remember that straight. There's some things that pop up and you say, oh my God! I've got completely forgotten about that. And there are a lot of things not even...not even that long ago just a couple months ago things popped off. That is the nature of news cycle we forget so easily. It really is. Word one in few shows it actually tries to remind people. No matter how tough it is. So Hillary has still no declared I guess this is proper term She supposed be declaring as we speak Oh

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Social Media Campaign, Willie Nelson Hoax, and Elizabeth Warren

Hillary Clinton is expected to announce her presidential candidacy via a produced social media video rather than a traditional press conference. Meanwhile, the hosts debunk a recurring death hoax involving Willie Nelson. They also speculate that Elizabeth Warren may be seeking a leadership role within the Democratic National Committee (DNC) rather than running for president.

hillary clinton· social media· willie nelson· elizabeth warren· dnc

1:20:12 Yeah, well Willie Nelson died again too. So anything can happen he died again yeah this Willie Nelson dead hoax keeps popping up Yeah, you can take that to the bank. Yeah You absolutely can if I could be monitoring one of this networks or something because yeah No she's supposed to take that to the back She is a as your practicing mm-hmm she is Supposed to be announcing on social media She's not gonna do any comedy show or anything and she's got a produced video So that she can announce on Twitter or Facebook And then the video comes out and you link to it, and you watch her on your computer going on and on about how great she is. John? It looks like it's happening right now live Hey now y'all! Can we just get real?! Do we really have to- She's announcing on social media John here she is Maybe I shouldn't do it Nooo I don't know why- We've lost our way

1:21:10 Yeah, it's about the people remember we are people people another like fan or share So we need another post to show up everywhere I hope as we scatter that we never forget that our posts live forever even when we go to bed everybody now Maybe this will cheer you up Social You want more or can I cut it? No, thank you. I would normally yes but you're in such a bad mood. We've been playing it so much some people probably don't like it. Rampall! Can't see how

1:21:59 I had that song ringing in my ears recently. It's a very catchy tune, even off key! It is super super catchy makes me want to put on the Leonard Cohen record and jump in the bathtub with the toaster pretty much Elizabeth Warren, not running but everywhere promoting her book. And is it possible that maybe... Wait wait don't forget this is not really her book this is the paperback of the book I know! Is it possible that she is vying for Debbie Washerman Schultz's job to be the...to run the Democrat Party? That's what I'm... She was done by a congress person as opposed to a senator. Senator?

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Rand Paul, Charles Krauthammer, and Neoconservative Philosophy

Rand Paul's presidential announcement sparks a debate over his foreign policy stance compared to traditional neoconservatives. Columnist Charles Krauthammer has criticized Paul, leading to a public rift. The hosts discuss the evolution of Krauthammer's views and the shifting definitions of "rubbleizers" within the Republican Party.

rand paul· charles krauthammer· neoconservatives· foreign policy· putin

1:22:44 Is that a rule? It doesn't make much sense. Well, or either somebody outside that's just a party hack You know this and I've never seen the senator do it hmm. I don't think unless somebody can correct me Oh Let's see if the chat room knows Ran Paul has declared son of Ron Paul and I was a big Ron Paul supporter in the 2008 cycle And then the 2012 cycle, and actually we interviewed... I interviewed Ron Paul. We put on the show when that was one of our earlier episodes, I think? Yes! And I asked him if he was a folder or scruncher and that kind of ended the interview you'll recall Yeah yeah You have way doing it. Ran Paul his son has announced and It's kind of weird and maybe weird is not the right word That's just a weak word to use

1:23:35 But it's confusing to me where we have the neocons, which everyone bitches about and they want to rubbleize everything. And then Rand Paul comes in and he's like I don't want to rubbleize everything but then everyone is talking about him being a horrible rubbleizer because he's Republican or he's with the Republican Party I don't think anybody knows anymore who's on what side and who is behind these strategies. And then we had, uh... What is the... Krauthammer? Yeah! Charles Krauthammer! He wrote something or said something nasty about Rand Paul and he was asked about it. Oh he's a robalizer. Krauthammer?! Yeah! That makes sense that he's a robalizier

1:24:18 Really? He seems like such a nice guy. He seemed like it logically, you know It was like him and George will were the two kind of Superstar writer Republican conservatives for a long time and then Krauthammer became more and more hate, you know Putin hater I'm sorry we got to do this Isis is gonna kill us. Let's let me need to hit on blind people and a couple more categories before we have to say that's the only excuse I can see for him changing his mind. And then so he gets into beefs now with the other guy and the two of them is, I don't know, Krauthammer. I've lost. I used to think it was one of the best. I used to like him a lot until it starts talking about her. But now he's just apologists for the rubbleizers.

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Rand Paul Interview, Megyn Kelly, and the Kagan Family

In an interview with Megyn Kelly, Rand Paul refuses to name specific "neocons" he disagrees with, leading the hosts to call him a "pussy." They identify the Kagan family, including Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland, as the primary architects of the interventionist policies Paul opposes. The segment highlights the continuity of neoconservative influence from the Bush administration into the Obama era.

rand paul· megyn kelly· robert kagan· victoria nuland· neocons

1:25:05 shocked to find out that rebelization is going on here. Here's Rand Paul, the only show that'll probably let him talk a little bit on Fox with Megyn Kelly and it turns out Rand Paul is pussy just a pussy you won't call people out if you look at who's closest to President Obama on foreign policy it would be the people who have supported his policies like the war in Libya I think the neocons both in our party have been very close to President Obama on all of these issues, the only place that they have differed is in degrees. I've been the one who opposed the war in Libya. I was the one opposed to Obama bombing in Assad

1:25:42 when the Syrian beginning of the Syrian notice how he says Obama bombing Assad that's pretty interesting conflict began I was the one opposed to Obama's arming of the Syrian rebels and Islamic rebels see the neocons have been in favor of all these things and they're actually much closer to President Obama than I am almost every major foreign policy well i would say that Charles on this issue is incorrect and the thing is we can have an honest disagreement. I'm just trying to understand who you mean because you've been saying a lot about neocons, and who are they in your mind? You know, who are they what section of the Republican Party do you mean? It's more of a philosophy. Is it like Bill Kristol? Lindsey Graham? It's...it's more of a philosophy and they will know when you talk about them they will know who they are.

1:26:29 The reason I don't choose to bring up names is, I don't want to make this about personalities. You pussy! You big pussy! Yeah you're right...you know? And I didn't use it because i thought It was stupid but now realize that what you yeah, I noticed this too when he was talking. He wouldn't name names and Bill Crystal yes you could have said absolutely. You know he couldn't win he said Lindsey Graham because Yes doesn't take two years and so in other words is going to run a campaign on innuendo That's what she should ask them So everything's innuendo with you

1:27:06 They'll know who I'm talking about. Well, let me name a few so it's Robert Kagan his brother Fred Kagan and of course who was there in Ukraine handing out pretzels donuts cookies cakes whatever it was Noodleman Victoria Noodleman we know her as Newland and she is married to Robert Kagan! And that's exactly what she said on the phone fuck the EU Because they're neocons, or they're now called neoliberals. What is the...what is it now? No, no, neoliberal's different. Okay, still neocon and President Obama himself says he recognizes and appreciates the input from the Kagan specifically, the same people who took us into Iraq with Bush. And this was a great opportunity for Ron Paul to say... Don't forget there's also Paul Wolfowitz, he goes in there too when you show something. Now I have a...that was the clip that...

1:28:02 I believe that was done on Wednesday or Thursday, that interview. Could be. And so Megyn Kelly comes back on with somebody else and she actually defends Ron Paul a lot because everyone accused him of being a sexist cause he's... Alright. And racist! Isn't he a racist and a sexist? Obviously a racist. Yeah, fuck hello. Buddha But here is Meg Kelly and I just cracked up because we're getting... Actually today is pretty low donation day And she's getting millions of dollars. And she uses the word irregardless, can you imagine? I was doing this to him in the interview and if you watch the whole thing She didn't give him a lot of opportunity to respond and he just lost his patience because he was irritated by the interviewer Irregardless irrespective of gender yeah i'm sorry that is incorrect

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Megyn Kelly, Irregardless, and Interview Patience

The hosts mock Megyn Kelly for using the non-standard word "irregardless" during her coverage of Rand Paul. They observe that Paul appeared to lose his patience during the interview due to Kelly's aggressive questioning style. The segment focuses on the optics of the Fox News exchange and the perceived sexism in the subsequent media analysis.

megyn kelly· rand paul· grammar· irregardless· fox news

1:27:06 They'll know who I'm talking about. Well, let me name a few so it's Robert Kagan his brother Fred Kagan and of course who was there in Ukraine handing out pretzels donuts cookies cakes whatever it was Noodleman Victoria Noodleman we know her as Newland and she is married to Robert Kagan! And that's exactly what she said on the phone fuck the EU Because they're neocons, or they're now called neoliberals. What is the...what is it now? No, no, neoliberal's different. Okay, still neocon and President Obama himself says he recognizes and appreciates the input from the Kagan specifically, the same people who took us into Iraq with Bush. And this was a great opportunity for Ron Paul to say... Don't forget there's also Paul Wolfowitz, he goes in there too when you show something. Now I have a...that was the clip that...

1:28:02 I believe that was done on Wednesday or Thursday, that interview. Could be. And so Megyn Kelly comes back on with somebody else and she actually defends Ron Paul a lot because everyone accused him of being a sexist cause he's... Alright. And racist! Isn't he a racist and a sexist? Obviously a racist. Yeah, fuck hello. Buddha But here is Meg Kelly and I just cracked up because we're getting... Actually today is pretty low donation day And she's getting millions of dollars. And she uses the word irregardless, can you imagine? I was doing this to him in the interview and if you watch the whole thing She didn't give him a lot of opportunity to respond and he just lost his patience because he was irritated by the interviewer Irregardless irrespective of gender yeah i'm sorry that is incorrect

1:28:50 But she's... I just thought it was funny. Yeah, but from that same long clip i have a sub-clip Mmhmm That again this is..I guess I'm being flippant on the show today Do you think? And I have a sub-clip that could go into the evergreen pile because It has an interesting Talking about innuendo This has kind of a...I don't know It has a funny meaning Because she was doing this to him in the interview That's all I got Let me hear it again She was doing this to him in the interview Okay. All right, well that didn't go over I can tell you. No no it didn't quite understand what you were trying to say It seemed funnier at the time when I was doing it Maybe if you see the video its funnier Well yeah that would be useful I guess okay But we will not go into the Evergreen theme That was the last film every year of it Now Joe Biden still thinks he's a contender? Well that brings up a point Everybody who watches any of these shows

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Joe Biden, Hillary's Temper, and George Stephanopoulos

While President Obama travels abroad, Joe Biden fills in for his weekly address, which the hosts find amusing. Sean Hannity features a segment on Hillary Clinton's legendary temper, citing accounts from George Stephanopoulos and Dee Dee Myers. These reports describe her as personally belittling staff and running campaigns against people behind their backs.

joe biden· hillary clinton· george stephanopoulos· temper· hannity

1:29:48 Nobody mentions anybody running against Hillary. Well, we know but all they say is Warren is not running. They said Warren's not running and then Hillary's gonna just get it somehow And Joe's running and you know what Joe does? I love Joe! I would like to see him as president quite honestly that would be so fun for the show It may be a little dangerous but he's fun for the show So President Obama is off in, I think he's still in Jamaica? He may...he's probably already gone. He left Caribcom. Wasn't he in Panama last week? Panama? Yeah maybe he went on to...I don't know but he didn't do his podcast! Oh and you know when the president can't do his podcast

1:30:31 Here's what we get. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Joe Biden and I'm here filling in for President Obama who's traveling abroad He actually thinks it's a show! I've taken over the show But this is what you say when you're on the radio Hey everybody its Adam Curry here filling in for the president whose on the road Filling In He said filling in. Everybody, it's Joe Biden here! You know Cap'n Joe Ladies and gentlemen this is Joe Biden and I'm here filling in for President Obama And we got Bubba the Love Sponge out on prize patrol. I am Joe Biden sitting- filling in for President Obama. I just think its cute Well we have- I was watching Hannity who I believe if Hillary gets elected president will be murdered

1:31:16 Oh, really? I just think so because he is such a tub-thumper for the Bushes pretty much. You think Hannity will get murdered?! I think so! SeanHannity.com by the way is where you want to go. Well hopefully they won't make The Connection... whatever that case Here's a piece he did on Hillary's temper on his show like yesterday Hillary's temper. So much has been made, I'll ask both of you this about Hillary's temper Let's go to Gail Sheehy's book and she described her temper in the book Hillary's Choices as quote She is angry not all of the time but most of the time then we go to former Clinton spokesperson Dede Meyers And she said Mrs.. Clinton got really angry. She attacked George meaning George Stephanopoulos and anybody that stood up

1:32:01 and tried to say that was a bad idea, you know? Was smashed down, belittled very personally. And I mean where I said the president didn't really attack people personally Mrs Clinton sometimes did and not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around Hillary tended to run a campaign against the people behind their back and that was certainly my experience. And one more, George Stephanopoulos himself she just jumped down my throat and basically said you never believed in us, you never stood for us we were all alone in New Hampshire and it was fierce and chilling and I was kind of stunned it was the most hurtful thing I thought that she could say especially in front of all of my colleagues at the time so much has been made this week about Rand Paul

1:32:48 in Perkly, and interviews with Savannah Guthrie. This sounds like an angry woman! This is an undertone of lesbianism that's what I'm hearing from him...angry lesbian You know i wonder about this we've heard from other sources when you were taking your trips back to the Hot Pocket store and other people they thought Hillary being kind of uh well the Secret Service hated her The Secret Service hated her. They talk about a little bit this in this clip, and I don't know if this clip but at least in this segment And she is an angry woman and maybe she's an angry lesbian Reason why I'm glad to play this clip right now It's because you second ago said Joe Biden would be a funny president But maybe dangerous This woman sounds to me To be the dangerous choice Because that is the land of unconfirmed Yes we came

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Orgy Island, Jeffrey Epstein, and Bill Clinton's Office

A discussion on Sean Hannity's show details an alleged incident where Hillary Clinton reacted furiously to news regarding Bill Clinton's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and "Orgy Island." She reportedly cleared Bill's desk in their Chappaqua office in a fit of rage. The hosts debate whether Hillary's temper makes her a dangerous choice for the presidency, referencing her "What difference does it make?" outburst during Benghazi hearings.

hillary clinton· bill clinton· jeffrey epstein· orgy island· chappaqua

1:32:01 and tried to say that was a bad idea, you know? Was smashed down, belittled very personally. And I mean where I said the president didn't really attack people personally Mrs Clinton sometimes did and not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around Hillary tended to run a campaign against the people behind their back and that was certainly my experience. And one more, George Stephanopoulos himself she just jumped down my throat and basically said you never believed in us, you never stood for us we were all alone in New Hampshire and it was fierce and chilling and I was kind of stunned it was the most hurtful thing I thought that she could say especially in front of all of my colleagues at the time so much has been made this week about Rand Paul

1:32:48 in Perkly, and interviews with Savannah Guthrie. This sounds like an angry woman! This is an undertone of lesbianism that's what I'm hearing from him...angry lesbian You know i wonder about this we've heard from other sources when you were taking your trips back to the Hot Pocket store and other people they thought Hillary being kind of uh well the Secret Service hated her The Secret Service hated her. They talk about a little bit this in this clip, and I don't know if this clip but at least in this segment And she is an angry woman and maybe she's an angry lesbian Reason why I'm glad to play this clip right now It's because you second ago said Joe Biden would be a funny president But maybe dangerous This woman sounds to me To be the dangerous choice Because that is the land of unconfirmed Yes we came

1:33:37 We saw he died. You're right, let's finish this clip and see what where it heads It is an angry woman And recently when she heard about the Jeffrey Epstein matter in the Orgy Island orgy island went barreling into Bill Clinton's office in Chappaqua took her hand and cleaned off his desk while Wiping off everything including his Chihuly sculptures Furious at him and practically killed him. I mean she has this terrible anger You know her? I do know her! Right, isn't one of her... She's doesn't have.. she's a mediocre politician Let's be honest She doesn't have the skills the political skills that Bill Clinton has What about this temper how bad is it well i'll put it in personal terms Sean Okay, I was invited to play a significant role

1:34:30 in the 2008 presidential election. I chose to pass on that and i've never had any regrets she is a talented woman, she's a smart woman but she is not somebody I would want to associate my political career with even though I will vote for her and I hope be able to vote enthusiastically. I'll try and convince you otherwise. Rebecca how big of an issue is it if that temper really This is only three examples. I have dozens more of people saying the same thing on the record. How big... Is it, this is a long clip John. Is there more? Does that have a big payoff?

1:35:06 No, it's just a bunch of anecdotes. You can kill it if you don't like it. The temper is an issue especially because she has a long history of distrust of the press. She is suspicious of the press and our motives and that makes it hard for her to sit for an interview and seem happy and relatable but its also a larger problem of can she seem relatable when she's interacting with voters? And this why she not a great campaigner. It's very forced for her though. You know what Sean Hannity if they murder him it'll be a positive. It'll be a positive I'm from the future Here's the meeting, The Meeting About Hannity

1:35:43 Here's the meeting. Dan is a good kid, stand up guy just like his old man. That's the way I see it. I agree he solid fucking marine He's okay He always was. Ramon what do you think? Look why take a chance at least that's how i feel about him That's right. You're using that little search engine of yours yeah, you're not paying attention to the show How could I fell asleep? I fell asleep during the Hannity clip how can I pay attention to the show it's good stuff And here's what's gonna happen them just smart media I don't think everybody likes her the Smart Media is gonna try to Needle her into doing so get a blow up yes below Don't you think I don't think they can do it

1:36:29 She is skilled, man. She's skilled! She blew up in front of that hearing when she yelled what difference does it make? Yeah... That was borderline nuts! She's pounding her fist and yelling what difference does it make?! I agree but that was not the media that was on C-SPAN What difference at this point does it make!? You know Well, maybe. But if she can... It was on the hills? ...on C-SPAN in a congressional hearing where she should know better I can't... No no no we'll see it'll be fun to watch Oh for sure! but Hannity is a goner Yeah I just can't watch him it's just I don't know what it is Just annoying I don't care what he has to say I don't care about his guests it's all fake and set up and I just think to myself self that guy's making a lot of money

CHAPTER 31 / 57 Discussion

The Gay Bomb, Pentagon Research, and BBC Reports

A caller to a religious radio program asks about the "Gay Bomb," a theoretical non-lethal weapon researched by the U.S. Air Force. The BBC previously confirmed that the military investigated chemicals that would make enemy soldiers sexually attracted to one another. The hosts use this to mock government spending and the absurdity of psychological warfare research.

gay bomb· pentagon· bbc· aphrodisiacs· chemical weapons

1:37:25 For being a douche. He's making a lot of money, but yeah, I don't know how much, but lots and lots. Somehow I don't understand how his radio show manages to be numbered...I think it's number two? It's just clearance. Just how many stations you get man. It's just the number of stations that there is. There is a show where the guy's name is Craig James And he is from the Family Research Council, which is a religious... It's a religious pressure group. Yeah anti-abortion but certainly that's one of their main things I'm sure they're all about religious freedom. I just thought this was a funny clip because I don't listen to this but someone alerted me to this segment on Craig James' show He gets a call and this is what the caller says. I know this is going to sound off in left field

1:38:17 pentagon gate bomb and it comes up an article by the BBC which basically said that the Pentagon was using certain chemicals in aphrodisiacs to spray into put on the soldiers where they'd be attracted other men as a weapon. In war times my question is, I wonder did some of those same techniques get used on the American people justify? But, uh... there's articles out there. Did you get your gay bomb yet? Now you can explain that this is explaining your constant wariness of chemtrails Yes! Exactly! They're making us all gay

1:39:00 Yeah, the BBC did indeed run an article. It's in the show notes. Another crazy stupid idea from the government. Wasting a taxpayer's money! The US military investigated a gay bomb which would make enemy soldiers sexually irresistible to each other I'm thinking this is a great product how can we get ahold of this chemical? I'm not gonna use it... The Gay Bomb That's fantastic But that's the kind of stuff that goes on like terrestrial radio. How sad is that? We just did a story on it I got a note from Tranny Lucille, this was sad...I'm gonna quote from this Actually I should do Adam's email because this is one of those notes John You know what I mean? No

CHAPTER 32 / 57 Discussion

LGBT Allyship, Hate Speech Accusations, and Brian the Gay Crusader

Adam Curry reads an angry email accusing him of being a homophobic Republican and a "misogynist." Curry rejects the Republican label and shares a supportive note from "Brian the Gay Crusader," who defends Curry as a true ally to the LGBT community. The segment addresses the difficulty of maintaining a nuanced perspective without being labeled by partisan interests.

lgbt· ally· hate speech· republican· brian the gay crusader

1:39:52 Yeah, one of those notes where someone says something horrible to me. Oh they said something horrible to you about? Are you just doing random searches and coming up with stuff? You're going oh I forgot all about that one! Girl you're such a viper always pretending to be on the LGBT side here's how you roll John, I'm a bi-curious as you know but my flower brothers and lessie sisters should all be arrested. So this guy was arrested because he killed a bunch of homos? Ah gay brothers and sisters you're being manipulated! I'm disappointed You say your bi curious just to license your hate speech curry the truth is you're not gay or even a yestergay. You're actually a headdy, a misogynist, a homophobic and a Republican And that's where i get pissed off people

1:40:39 You can call me anything you want. The punchline to that reading is, Republican? Do not call me a Republican! You can deny it but just listen to yourself. Shame on you Curry! That was hurtful Yeah well I think you have your uh the gay crusader Well okay... I think you have-you have to let he-you have to have some judge of this sort of accusation that's a neutral party Either say, well a little bit or no not at all. Or this is bull crap. The third party has to come in and make a judgment call on the validity of this complaint." I copied Brian the Gay Crusader on my reply and he sent a very lovely note back which is... A lovely note! ...I'm not going to read it all but we'll put it in the show notes that I am an ally! An ally I tell you

1:41:41 A true ally that will advocate for equality and also shine a light on issues that impact LGBT community the mainstream media does not report. Exactly, there you go I would say that's true yeah i think you're snide about a lot of it but i think that's the way that's an ally...I think that's fine if you're an ally you're an ally You don't have to be a lockstep nazi ally Of course not where you do everything everyone tells you to do you can do it any way you want yes This reminds me of something else, but I can't think of what it is. Um... Got one here? So the Elite's game- Well do you wanna- I was gonna- I think it's time to talk about the six week cycle really. I think we need to slide right into that. Oh okay well let's start with the six week cycle. Uh, but I have a backgrounder because there's two guys not just one. Two guys- Well I have the Two Guys clip Okay where's the Two Guys clip does it say Two Guys Clip? I wish it did It says whaaaaat? It saaaysssomethingabout

CHAPTER 33 / 57 Discussion

John T. Booker Jr., FBI Sting, and Fort Riley Plot

Federal prosecutors have charged John T. Booker Jr. and Alexander Blair in a plot to detonate a suicide bomb at Fort Riley, Kansas. Booker was arrested during an FBI sting operation after attempting to arm what he believed was a real explosive. A second man, Alexander Blair, is accused of failing to report the felony and providing financial assistance for a storage unit.

fbi· john t. booker jr· fort riley· isis· sting operation

1:42:43 I don't see it. See, I got too many clips. I need that little spot at that new tool of yours. No you it's a Mac You can't use that tool shall I just play my background or then and we'll look for yours? I'll play mine if I have to within the past three hours A second person charged in an alleged terror plot to kill us soldiers out for Riley late today federal prosecutors said the second man helped John Booker jr Investigators say Alexander Blair shared extremist views with book The criminal complaint also says Blair loaned Booker money and says Blair told Booker not to talk about the plot publicly so he wouldn't get caught. Prosecutors charged Blair with failing to report a felony if convicted, he faces three years in prison despite wanting to die in the attack prosecutors say Booker had a plan to get his message out

1:43:29 Today's threat was real. Real! It's real! And Booker is fully committed to his plan A planned prosecutor say he was in the final stages of putting together. He told another individual that detonating a suicide bomb was his number one aspiration, a deadly ambition allegedly inspired by ISIS. He repeatedly stated his desire to engage in violent jihad on behalf of the Islamic State of Iraq otherwise known as ISIL. But investigators say his death wouldn't have silenced him, adding Booker put together a martyr video and he said he wanted

1:44:06 members of the public whose sons and daughters were members of the military, that he wanted to get their loved ones out of the military immediately. He said because the Islamic State is coming for them." So that was the news today. The bomb material Prosecutor Saye Booker assembled was inert meaning it was not capable of exploding. The FBI says you can all learn we can all learn from today's arrest Kansas City's top agent says this situation highlights why we all need to report suspicious behavior Now more than ever, we must remain vigilant. We must continue to work with our law enforcement and rat on each other partners and we must rely on you the community at large to be attentive and report suspicious activity as for what's next? The FBI says it still conducting search warrants related to this case Meanwhile today a court put Booker in the custody of US Marshal Service pending his trial if convicted Booker faces life in prison

1:45:03 Now this is one of the most disgusting examples we've had of the six-week cycle, of the FBI. Oh well before you go I want to play my intro clip still because it's shorter and a little more to the point And this is the clip, it's called Booker Case Expanded. in an effort to kill as many soldiers as possible at Fort Riley. Booker was arrested yesterday in a FBI sting operation, a Muslim cleric said today Booker is mentally ill.

CHAPTER 34 / 57 Discussion

Mental Illness Exploitation, Informants, and The Flames of War

The hosts argue that the FBI exploited John T. Booker Jr.'s documented mental illness to orchestrate a "homegrown terror" plot. Booker had voluntarily checked into a mental facility a year prior and was later targeted by two confidential human sources (CHS) who encouraged his radicalization. The FBI provided the inert bomb materials and directed Booker's actions, leading to accusations of entrapment for budgetary and PR purposes.

fbi· mental illness· informants· entrapment· isis

1:45:56 Booker, and now this John T. Booker which I don't know why did you say Thomas? Why was it T? Normally we have the full name is always three names John T. Booker... I think it's a Booker T and the MGs Yeah, Booker T Washington exactly Booker T in the MGs He checked himself voluntarily into a mental facility in March of 2014. Then he came out, went...he was an ROTC program so he went to have his interview and he was denied service and the FBI sat him down talked with him had a whole conversation and went hey Bill this guy's fucking nuts I got an idea

1:46:38 Hey, nuts you want a gold star? I know what is gonna be a lot easier. Let's make this guy Let's make this guy do it for us so I got the criminal complaint And I just want... Yeah, did you see anything? I saw a couple of things that I found interesting. Was there anything that you...? Not that it stood out. It looked like standard set up. They had the two guys who were FBI guys urging him to do this and that and then telling him they did everything but finance the whole thing. This other guy didn't finance the bomb but he financed the shed which is why he...and actually something interesting about him with his three years etc.,

1:47:18 But after he came out of the facility in March 2014, that's when the guy starts posting crazy stuff on Facebook like, getting ready to be killed in jihad is a huge adrenaline rush. Yeah okay FBI you need to take children like this because he's 20! He's a child! He's younger than my kid! You need to take them and get them help instead of exploiting them for your own budgets and for your own I guess ego it's truly truly disgusting and disturbing It is sick So here's October 8, 2014 and we have confidential human source CHS-1 who then starts to engage him. And he even says that he... He even says to the CHS-1 at that point, oh I've talked to the FBI before but here is my favorite. On or about February 3rd 2015 during a conversation with undercover agent CHS-1 Booker made reference to a video called The Flames of War

1:48:19 So let's just put in that bogus, highly Hollywood produced video of the guy burning in a cage which he could have pushed over but he didn't. Who burns with his hands in the air not all crouched over in a fetal position so we've now given more validity to the video And then he talks about a video, and there's another undercover informant CHS2. So it was like two undercover people. He had watched the video by an American Syrian suicide bomber called Jihadi Joe...

1:48:57 If anybody out there has ever been sold an insurance policy they didn't wanna buy or a car that really didn't wanna buy, or anything like that. We're talking about...we're assuming at least that we're dealing with super salesmen. Super salesman if you've ever run into them and everyone has can sell anything and they do an outstanding job of it. And when you have somebody as lame-brained or borderline moron You could really sell them pretty much anything you want. Any skills. Allow me to give you an example, the spam email that we spoke about just before we started the show which is this magical cure to hearing loss which was... Who discovered this? The Aborigines or some...? The Amish! I'm sorry and they've kept it a secret so that i think most people have received this spam because even you got in you don't get spam

1:49:52 people fall for this. People fall for the Nigerian princess thing, people are stupid! So yeah it's easy and then they brought in a second guy who said- The closer? Well the close... Yeah he said hey man you know it's not safe to store things at your house because you share with your cousin so at this point CHS-2, that means Undercover Human Resource 2 suggests Booker may want to rent a storage locker. Oh man! Okay so he gets the storage locker then they tell him to go buy some stuff actually what is it? They don't even say what it was but they say they purchased stuff to construct bombs and they had a second storage unit for that

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Misprision of Felony, Alexander Blair, and See Something Say Something

Alexander Blair is charged with "misprision of felony" for having knowledge of Booker's plot and failing to report it to authorities. The hosts note that this obscure common law offense has been abolished in most jurisdictions but remains a federal crime in the U.S. They argue this legalizes the "See Something, Say Something" campaign by making silence a punishable offense.

misprision of felony· alexander blair· fbi· surveillance· law

1:50:41 and he was going to make a VBIED, a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device. I've never heard this is a new term on maybe it's been around... They didn't make up new terms before. And so then they said you know they say oh drive to Fort Riley and they go to the utility gate and then they say okay press the button and then of course nothing happens in there arrest them and take the kid stupid stupid sad ass kid to jail And then we have this Alexander E Blair again, why not the full middle name? This is new. Normally we have the full middle name and he's been arrested and the complaint against him is having knowledge of it...of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States namely attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction

1:51:31 in violation of 18 U.S. Code, we know a weapon of mass destruction can actually be an M-80 firecracker that qualifies as a weapon of mass destruction and he attempted to provision the material support to a foreign terrorist organization no... He gave the kid some money to rent um.. The shed or whatever where you hid the storage unit thank you But now, of course that's material support to a foreign terrorist organization. What is interesting is that he is being charged under misprision...is it misprison? ...of a felony I think they say pronounced it. I have no idea what that word is Well, I looked it up It's M-I-S P-R-I-S-I-O-N Misprison of a felony was an offense under the common law of England and was classified as a misdemeanor

1:52:28 And it's pretty much been done away with everywhere except in the United States where it is still under federal law, misprision of felony as an offense. Here it is, whoever having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court or the United States conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years or both. And the fine is defined as $500 or three years in prison up no more than three years in prison or both but I find this to be

1:53:08 This is more frightening to me than getting the nut job and making him press a button. So this is a guy... Yeah, they're slipping it- This is legalizing or legalizing forcing the see something say something Yes Because if you don't If you don't say... You can be arrested and convicted of misprision of felony It's a felony too But I So you can't even make a judgment. So this other guy's...ignoring the guy is nuts, this second person who got arrested for this act of silence shedding up which is by the way as far as I know it was constitutional, you can testify. Ah well! But whatever If if you're aware here's that here's that the trick word is commission

CHAPTER 37 / 57 Discussion

ICD-10 Medical Codes, Jet Engines, and Struck by Duck

The transition to ICD-10 medical coding introduces thousands of highly specific and bizarre diagnostic codes. Examples include "Sucked into jet engine, subsequent encounter," "Struck by duck," and "Problems in relationship with in-laws." The hosts argue that these codes transform medical profiles into comprehensive personal dossiers that track social behavior and lifestyle rather than just physical health.

icd-10· medical records· ehr· healthcare· billing

1:57:53 They are tasked with this, it's an entire IT project and so we got a lot of feedback on that. I'd like to share a couple of them The first one would be... now one of our dudes named Ben sent me an overview which I put entirely, of course I've removed anything identifying about him He has the whole thing, everything. The history of how messed up it is in hospitals where nothing talks to each other they have downtime they have hospital systems going down for 10-20 hours at a time in order to implement these types of systems and everyone has to go back to paper. It drives everybody nuts, the medication cabinets are unlocked during this... This is a great letter! It's fantastic it's really really detailed

1:58:44 Yeah, people should read it in the show notes really. Yes what I mean yeah they should be reading at this moment no and then i think you know just knowing... It's really messed up and it seems that it does it is really not helping at all. I did get a couple of new crazy codes from people So these are the different things that can ail you, that will be attached to your personal record for... in perpetuity. Yeah, in perpetuity and put on the web and connected to the internet Here's a couple of crazy ones that popped up V97.33XD Sucked into jet engine subsequent encounter That seems like a medical issue Accidental striking against or bumped into by another person This could be on your health record

1:59:37 Pedestrian on foot injured in collision with roller skater. That is VOO.01XD Activities involved arts and hands craft If you were wounded during, you know with a glue gun or knitting needle there's a code for it Dependence on enabling machines and devices not elsewhere classified This is interesting You know what this could be? This could be a social media or your iPhone. This is going to be a big one, 12.Z99er.89er. Would that mean somebody threw an iPhone in the head? No! Did I count? It's probably different code... Oh yeah, I'm sure it is. Well you have swimming pool of prison as place of occurrence of the external cause and there probably should be a hot tub code somewhere. Lid closed on hot tub

2:00:28 Other superficial bite of other specified part of neck. Okay... Struck by duck, that is W61.62XD Problems in relationship with in-laws This isn't no longer a medical profile this is a profile of who you are! Other contact with cow I couldn't find the initial contact Beastiality hello Yeah there ya go There ya go So a lot of people sending in crazy, crazy codes. There's thousands of them. Yeah 16 thousand actually. So if you go into the doctor and use and you happen to mention that your mother-in-law what an asshole or anything like that it goes into your medical record? Yeah that's right on your records. How does that work? You would have record

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Physician Reimbursement, Search Engines, and Medicaid Compliance

Doctors must implement ICD-10 codes by October 15th to remain eligible for Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements. While some argue that doctors won't use the more obscure codes, the hosts point out that specialized search engines now allow physicians to quickly attach multiple codes to a single visit. This system incentivizes more complex diagnoses to justify higher billing tiers.

icd-10· medicaid· medicare· physicians· billing

2:01:20 Zed six three dot one in fact of course the joke of this is not implementable unless the doctors out to get you Because no doctor's gonna put any of this stuff, and they haven't got time. They don't have enough well talk to you And it isn't so none of us going to be reported unless you have a bad doctor Well good doctor it's not gonna do this we had a note from dude He spent all his time in the office with you looking this stuff up a note from Jack known as dude named Ben Adam, you mentioned ICD-10 in the last show. Although hospital billing is very boring I thought a couple things were interesting during my time at industry. I used to work for company that you could call the ICD search engine doctors just enter and search and diagnosis pops back with the appropriate code he says about 80% of all doctors use this ICD code search engine

2:02:13 But, of course that means that all that data is in a search engine somewhere. A huge search engine! We should look up... we should get hold of somewhere getting access to the search engine. Yeah I'd love to do that. Just look up various things you know whiskey and the reason why i think you're incorrect doctors need to have this because otherwise particularly with Medicaid and Medicare you don't get paid So this is the whole thing. If you don't implement, if your hospital or your practice does not have the ICD-10 codes implemented by October 15th you no longer will be reimbursed for Medicaid Medicare. You won't be reimbursed as a physician. I questioned this analysis What do you mean? It's true!

2:03:02 No, it's not true. Here is what you're claiming is true I go to see my doctor and now they are billing whoever my insurance company Medicare whatever I am I go see the doctor now I'm on the clock for the visit based on a certain amount of time he tells me okay your fine let me check this or whatever he does He checks a bunch of things and sends you on your way gives you prescription He's not going to get any more money by putting in the code that says that I hate my mother-in-law or anything. That's not what I'm saying, John! Stop! That's not what iIm saying. I'm saying two different things one if your hospital or practice has not implemented the new codes there'll be different codes so you'll have whatever you said even if the mother-in-law is not in there it the code is now different new codes

2:03:53 Yeah, okay. I didn't say that's not the case That's what i said and you said Well im talking about the doctor being a fink and putting all this crap into your head If he is going to prescribe something for you And wants to get paid for prescribing You He has to attach a code to it Yeah! I've got asthma lets say Okay so then he'll go and type in Asthma Yeah But hes not gonna type in all this miscellaneous information No This is what Im talking about All this bullshit Are you? Your insane! Its not gonna be put in Okay, you come in and there's... we have to qualify that visit. And you say I'm not feeling good what's the problem? Well i have this, I got me, I'm angry about something uh but I'm addicted to myself, I keep looking at myself whatever it is he needs to get paid for that visit if you're fine! I don't think there's a code for he's fined needed nothing

2:04:41 Certainly not if he's prescribing something. So they will find... You still get paid for the visit? You have to have a code, otherwise you don't get paid for the visit I don't believe this is true. I think the visit itself is a code Going to the doctor is a code In other words, what you're saying is that some healthy person who's a hypochondriac... Well I guess there's a code for that. There you go! There's a code for hypochondriac of course there is But that's not the same as prying into your personal life and putting all this data in there No but there's a search engine for it So you just put in, y'know he's on social media too much He's angry at his mother-in-law You got two codes now They won't put it in

2:05:23 In the search engine? No, there's no doctor in his right mind. At least a decent doctor who knows this patient is going to put in all these personal details into the box just because he can and just because it was a search engine. I mean you spend the whole day putting stuff in! I don't think you're right if... You have preventative care, you have... He wants to prescribe you something this is how the system works we need to keep you on the system- I do not have a doctor like that. No, you don't You don't. But if you're prescribing something, that needs a code. Sure! Asthma medicine is amazing. Yes but people... we know the industry is built on keeping people on pills would you agree with me? Yeah and there's a lot of bad doctors out there

CHAPTER 39 / 57 Discussion

Medical Billing Debate, Pharmaceutical Spiffs, and Diagnostic Codes

The hosts engage in a heated debate over whether more diagnostic codes directly result in more money for doctors. Adam Curry contends that the medical and pharmaceutical industries benefit from keeping patients in the system with multiple diagnoses and prescriptions like Ritalin and Prozac. John C. Dvorak remains skeptical, arguing that a 20-minute visit has a fixed value regardless of the number of "miscellaneous" codes entered.

healthcare· billing· pharmaceuticals· ritalin· prozac

2:06:17 So I do think that the search engine and not only, look i can only tell you what our audience what our producer says. Oh, how about... I mean there's just so many things that can be prescribed but all you need is a code and you can do so much more now with all these codes. You think the doctors are like oh! I don't want to get reimbursed, I don't want to prescribe more, I don't want to get any money of course they do. I don't believe what you're saying is even remotely true okay? They're not getting more if you spend an hour at the doctor's office they're not getting more money because you they prescribe something If you prescribe... Why would they

2:06:57 Okay, neither of us know enough just go nuts and to be prescribing millions of things if there's any Have you seen children today? They are on Ritalin. They're on adderall they're on Prozac Yes They're going nuts and every single prescription needs a curl in the medical community is that they're getting paid? They're getting paid by the drug companies directly for all like spiffing It's not like they write up a million prescriptions. If everybody got more money from the government, let's say for writing more prescriptions there would be writing more prescriptions to everyone! And that is exactly what's happening. Oh bull... Okay

2:07:33 Well, not happening. In fact there's a huge prohibition against writing too many prescriptions for painkillers for example in the state of California. They go after you if everyone has to go to Florida to get their pain medications from phony doctors. Our producer Angela from Vegas as a former billing instructor I can confirm every procedure requires an ICD-9 the procedure codes are CPT codes, a doctor visit is a CPT code requires an ICD-9 soon to be ICD 10. ICD10 qualify the liability of the cost of the visit whether it's insurance or third party." These codes are key this is...the whole industry is built on this. Doctor office everything has an ICD-10 code applied to it and there's just going to be more so they can bill more. And I'm sorry I think you're incorrect on this. Howard Glassman Well let's have some doctors read, doctors will listen.

2:08:22 We only have dentists we only have dentist the guys who couldn't take the real test Hopefully, we'll see you sometime in the future. They know they know let's Here's the question. If your patient comes in and you take a million of these idiotic codes that have to do with his personal life, like oh he doesn't like his mother or he doesn't like...he got a sore knee, he got hit by baseball, had a broken arm when he was kid, has trouble, a million things. You write every one of them down And you take example two where you write down, he came in and has a cold. I looked him over and told him to take two aspirin and call me in the morning. Stop right there! You're saying that the first situation with all these codes gets the doctor more money? Yes your mistake is making doctors say take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning now each visit level has different criteria so even just talking to the nurse at

2:09:24 at reception, all of these things are related. And the higher you go the more billings you make, the more you are making as a doctor with reimbursements. These aren't billings! It's not a billing! Yes these are billing codes! Like your mother-in-law is not a billing it's just a code The ICD code is a billing code yes it is a code that so if you are going... Okay let's just take one example Why are you so... I don't understand. Because it's bullcrap what you're saying, that's why! You're making it sound as though the- Tell me what I'm saying and then we'll tell me what I'm saying What am I saying? You are saying that the more codes you put in a patient's record The more money you get Yes Okay That's what I say you're saying That's what I've been trying to say And you say that's bullcrap No, you say that's bullcrap I say that's bullcrap Let that be the question that shall be answered

2:10:18 I believe the more codes you put in, which means more treatment. The more reimbursement comes to the facility, the doctor etc., yes. Dr. Yes. We're talking about the doctors? It's the doctor's best interest to put in all these codes that are many miscellaneous codes like you don't like your mother-in-law... Would you agree with me that it is in the medical and the pharmaceutical industry's best interest to keep you coming back and that there is pretty much no longer a scenario in the world where we say, We've cured you! Goodbye. What's that got to do with the question? Nothing. I'm not going to go in that direction, we have one simple question to answer. You get more money by putting a lot of codes in the same meeting you have one meeting and one hour or give me a break. You've gotta 20 minute visit with your doctor. One doctor tells you take two aspirin, the other doctor writes a million miscellaneous codes about your whole life

2:11:16 That, you're saying the second doctor who writes all the codes down gets more money. That's the question not some philosophical crap that you're trying to bring into the conversation? Dr. Lowells That's the question and you're saying that's not true. You are saying if you do not receive a number of...more than one diagnostic code, ICD-9 code which means you could be treated for each one with the CPT code, as Angela just told us. That there's not going to be more money? Of course there is! So it behooves to have more diagnosis and you can always throw in hates his mother-in-law that's free money right there. But this what...that's the question right there. That's the question You put down...you get more money for saying he hates...for putting down that he hates his mother-in-law. That's not the case There's no way if that's the case

CHAPTER 40 / 57 Discussion

Cyber Security Drama, Ted Kaczynski, and Bad Acting

A dramatic clip featuring a "cyber bomber" named Miles Jensen is played to illustrate the media's portrayal of technology addiction and domestic terrorism. The character rants about society's dependence on social media before being confronted by the FBI. The hosts mock the "bad acting" and the heavy-handed message of the segment.

cyber security· fbi· technology addiction· social media· drama

2:12:07 I can't eat the book, but that is not...I would like to see some backup on that. This is just prying for the purposes of government spying and snooping." No! It will be misused for that because it's now available and connectable to people, of course. But I do not believe these codes were made for prying and snooping on people. Well maybe the question is already answered in the chatroom by the many doctors who are in there! Now there are a lot of pissed off dentists in the chat room right now actually... That's different. Well we'll see. All right well meanwhile here's The Future Of Cyber you might like this clip

2:12:51 This is the clip. Yeah, this needs no setup or explanation I'm reminded of Ted Kaczynski Oh Really? Are you now yes Okay, this is the CSU cyberclip with a mad bomber Stop it! FBI, hands up. Stop right there! Drop it! I will blow us all to hell You don't want to do that There are children next door Shut your mouth, I swear People have to know the truth And I'm going to be the one who shows them the truth They're gonna know the truth and you're gonna show them and I'm gonna help What's your name? My name is Miles Jensen Miles, I am Elijah

2:13:36 Why don't you people have to know that we are a society addicted to technology, to social media. No one sees it You don't see it I'm the only one who's paying attention to what we become Well you've got our attention Miles and you've got a point but you need to put down that detonator before we- Don't tell me what to do! I'm in control here not you These people need to be stopped and I am the only one who can do it They didn't listen before But they're gonna listen now. I'm listening to you miles I'm listening to you right now And I'm telling you if you let that bomb you link to the website go off nobody is going to care what you have to say Tell me where the bomb is and we could do it's not too late Put down a dead man, you shouldn't have come here miles stay with me all right Now I have to take you all with no Miles my mile look at me You think they're gonna listen though?

2:14:35 Wow What an exciting show yeah, I like that a lot. I don't like no sorry interesting well anyway I'm still reeling here, John. I can't believe that you're on the side of the government on this That's very strange and somewhat appalling actually Apparently also on the side of bad acting Yeah well...that's why we're still waiting for your bit part to come in It hasn't happened yet Oh! I've never made that connection Yes I don't like knowing something i cant do anything about

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Donor Roll Call, Russian Rubles, and International Producers

The hosts read a list of donors from around the world, including contributions in Russian rubles and from producers in Ireland and Canada. They note the fluctuating value of the ruble and thank individual contributors like Bill Hudek and Sir Greg Stone for their continued support of the value-for-value model.

donations· rubles· russia· ireland· san antonio

2:15:15 I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fab! You know what people? There are very few, very few media outlets who care so much about your health and how you are treated in the system as The No Agenda Show We are willing to go to bat and fight each other over it Who's collecting these Leo clips for you? Eh, Leo He sends it to me. Send a batch in every once in awhile? Yeah, I'm like hey man you haven't mentioned me on the show recently so send me something Zachary Gilbreth we want to thank him for on the show which is in Cordova Tennessee these are our good over $50 donors 123-12345 one of my favorites he says belated happy birthday to John Tom Seeler in London UK 111 dollars and eleven cents something we don't see a lot of anymore 111 111 no we don't Which is kind of disappointing

2:16:17 Crocata Computer Services in Pacifica, California. 100. Bill Hudick in Timonium. I just love the name of that town. Timonium. I've got some Timonium in my pocket! Timonium Maryland $100. Anthony Cuzzella in Lost Wages Nevada 5878 Anonymous Paul in Rochester New York He had some karma for you at the end. Sir Greg Stone, Rapid City South Dakota double nickels on the dime Eric Asnes in Lawndale California 5510 double nickels on the dime Michael Slusinger in Macomb Michigan double nickels on the dime Ksenia Tishu I think it's Xenia?

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Nuclear Quality Assurance, Rod Adams, and Atomic Insights

Sir Rod Adams provides a clarification on the "10 CFR 50 Appendix B" knighthood title, explaining that it refers to federal regulations for nuclear quality assurance programs. Adams, a nuclear energy expert and creator of Atomic Insights, is recognized for his contribution to the show's understanding of the energy sector.

rod adams· nuclear energy· quality assurance· atomic insights· knighthood

2:18:41 Finally, Carol Garrett in Eureka Kansas. Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California rounds it off. Thank you Mark and everyone else who came in. Yes and we had a note from Sir Rod Adams which I need to bring up here. Oh yes he solicited this note No, I didn't. Did we solicit this? Yeah you solicited a note. You said we're going to ask him something. Uh no i didn't ask this... We had a nighting on Thursday show Night of 10 CFR 50 Appendix B. Do you recall that title of the knighthood? Yeah and I looked it up too. Well I didn't look it up but Rod said oh I had to stop mid-show to say hello tonight of the 10 CFR50 appendix b

2:19:26 That is the section of federal regulations that defines the measures required in a nuclear qualified quality assurance program. He says he didn't think many producers had heard that as a call out. Well, they have for good reason. Atomic Insights is where you can find Sir Rod's information And that's it. This was not a super duper day, Sundays are hard. Sundays usually are rough and then everyone has lost their mojo. There is no You know the numbers show 700 is past and birthdays are over. Just look at yourself, how do you feel today? I feel crappy! Let's give everybody a big dose of karma okay? You've got karma. Thank you very much remember us for Thursday Show

CHAPTER 43 / 57 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Paul, and Order of Pugner

Anonymous Paul from Horseheads is knighted into the "Order of Pugner" for his significant contributions to the show. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, welcoming him to the round table and reciting the standard list of humorous rewards associated with the title.

knighthood· sir paul· horseheads· pugner· ceremony

2:20:19 And then we do have anonymous Paul who will be knighted today. Do you have your blade somewhere near? Yeah, here it is. And on it was Paul, come on up man. Thank you very much for your contributions to the Best Podcasting Universe You help us produce this program and therefore we welcome you into

2:20:58 the round table of the knights and dames, and I hereby pronounce to Kate the Sir Paul from Horseheads Order of Pugner. For you my friend we have hookers & blow, rentboys in chardonnay bad science in perky breasts malted barley in hops puppies in tailors vintage port Cuban cigars single malt scotch hot librarians in Jager bombs opium in warm orange juice vodka vanilla bong hits in bourbon sparkling cider in escorts and obviously mutton and mead go to noagenomination dot com slash rings We have everything there for you You'll be registered. I think it was broken, Eric fix it again if not shoot us an email we will hook you up We'll hook you up brother indoctrination of children in schools hmm first I want to revisit the what the theory was in the newsletter which we didn't discuss really which is there's been a cluster of Six-week cycle events they don't do one anymore did we have to remember Comey now the guy yeah comey who is

CHAPTER 44 / 57 Discussion

James Comey, HSBC Money Laundering, and Homegrown Terror

The hosts discuss FBI Director James Comey's past as a board member for HSBC during a period of massive money laundering. They posit a theory that the FBI is pivoting toward "clusters" of small homegrown terror events to justify increasing budgets. This strategy focuses on domestic jurisdiction where the FBI has more control and can blame the internet for radicalization.

james comey· hsbc· money laundering· fbi· budgets

2:21:58 He is a super elite board member, former board member from HSBC during the time of the money laundering and the price fixing on interest rates. And of course he put Martha Stewart in jail. Let us remember this big man, big man put Martha Stewart in jail. Big Man good impressed with you Well, she probably was not a customer of the bank. So here's a rundown of the thrusts these all kind of came within that and I think they're just...I think the new theory is I'm positing which I hate that word but i'm going to use it this thesis that the six-week cycle still valid but instead of having a major event that is like you know people lose interest in or they see this none of these big events have worked to achieve anything

2:22:50 And now it's the theme that I'm seeing with... I'm sorry, can I ask you a question? Yeah. When you say achieve anything, the initial analysis The only thing it's meant to achieve is validation so the budgets continue. No, that's an element but to make it a big...a big-to-do thing like this...the what's the name of school? They shot everyone up supposedly. Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook for gun control didn't have any effect and none of this seems to have any effect except the budget thing. But if we're gonna do these Hell with that, let's change our theory. We'll do a lot of little events and we'll promote...we get the budget because actually we may even get more money the way they're doing these. We'll get a good budget and will also promote something which will increase...see the other thing about like the Sarnoff brothers

2:23:36 They can increase the budget for just general stuff, but they can't do what they can do if you have a lot of homegrown terror. You could make the budget even bigger because you can't do anything about terrorists that are being trained overseas in Pakistan or... In fact we don't even do anything. We see them go and watch them come back and then we're just tracking him there's nothing there this is no money to be spent on it. So now it seems that every single one of these events has the same... And by the way Taking the terrorists out of the country is no longer FBI's jurisdiction, right? Which is another thing there's no money in that so you keep them in the country You make him homegrown terrorist. You blame the internet for everything which gives they did know we gotta do a cyber thing We need a cyber general and so the FBI will be all over cyber as much as everybody Everybody's oh, right because against that way things spend all day with checking their Facebook status that's good use of this government time and

2:24:33 And so everyone, but we have to do a lot of little ones to make it look like homegrown terrorism is a huge plague. Here's the rundown of the ones before this guy they all took place in the same within a framework that you could call six-week cycle and this is the NBC rundown of the threats All about homegrown terror. Tonight there are concerns about home grown terror in this country, what appears to be a growing number of Americans looking to join the terror group ISIS The latest case involves a Philadelphia mother-of-two NBC's Ron Allen has our report Kiana Thomas stood in court, only her eyes visible. The 30-year old Philadelphia mother of two accused of planning to travel to Turkey then Syria willing to fight and die for ISIS That would be amazing a girl can only wish she allegedly messaged an ISIS fighter Thomas whose home displayed American flags had purchased an airline ticket days before her arrest according to prosecutors But now she's among at least 25 Americans charged with supporting Isis

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ISIS Recruitment, Pressure Cookers, and Female Jihadists

NBC News reports on a series of arrests involving Americans allegedly attempting to join or support ISIS. Cases include Keonna Thomas in Philadelphia and two women in New York accused of plotting to build bombs. The report emphasizes the use of social media for recruitment and the discovery of "bomb-making recipes" and pressure cookers in the suspects' homes.

isis· keonna thomas· pressure cookers· philadelphia· chicago

2:23:36 They can increase the budget for just general stuff, but they can't do what they can do if you have a lot of homegrown terror. You could make the budget even bigger because you can't do anything about terrorists that are being trained overseas in Pakistan or... In fact we don't even do anything. We see them go and watch them come back and then we're just tracking him there's nothing there this is no money to be spent on it. So now it seems that every single one of these events has the same... And by the way Taking the terrorists out of the country is no longer FBI's jurisdiction, right? Which is another thing there's no money in that so you keep them in the country You make him homegrown terrorist. You blame the internet for everything which gives they did know we gotta do a cyber thing We need a cyber general and so the FBI will be all over cyber as much as everybody Everybody's oh, right because against that way things spend all day with checking their Facebook status that's good use of this government time and

2:24:33 And so everyone, but we have to do a lot of little ones to make it look like homegrown terrorism is a huge plague. Here's the rundown of the ones before this guy they all took place in the same within a framework that you could call six-week cycle and this is the NBC rundown of the threats All about homegrown terror. Tonight there are concerns about home grown terror in this country, what appears to be a growing number of Americans looking to join the terror group ISIS The latest case involves a Philadelphia mother-of-two NBC's Ron Allen has our report Kiana Thomas stood in court, only her eyes visible. The 30-year old Philadelphia mother of two accused of planning to travel to Turkey then Syria willing to fight and die for ISIS That would be amazing a girl can only wish she allegedly messaged an ISIS fighter Thomas whose home displayed American flags had purchased an airline ticket days before her arrest according to prosecutors But now she's among at least 25 Americans charged with supporting Isis

2:25:33 How dangerous is what we've been seeing, do you think? I think that it's... You can't answer that question how dangerous it is. I would say that there's a heightened level of attention by the authorities. I think what they're really trying to say is there's danger and we're paying attention to it Earlier in the week Noelle Valencia 28 and Asia Siddiqui 31 faced a New York judge The two women accused of plotting to build bombs in the US Court documents say Valensis told an undercover FBI agent she didn't understand why people were traveling overseas to wage jihad when there were more opportunities of pleasing Allah in the United States. This is a scary feeling

2:26:11 Yeah, especially when you have Children. It's a scary feeling. Court papers say their homes contain gas tanks, a pressure cooker recipes for bomb making and that Valencia had been obsessed with pressure cookers since the Boston Marathon attacks in 2013 I know it's a serious case but we're going to fight it out in court. Thursday authorities indicted an Army National Guard soldier and his cousin for allegedly supporting ISIS guard specialist Hassan Edmonds arrested as he was about to board a plane from Chicago bound for the Middle East, and Jonas Edmonds accused of planning to attack a military facility using his cousins uniform as a disguise relatives have spoken out against the allegations

2:26:53 As the US-led coalition launched more airstrikes against ISIS today, the battle continues against new recruits here at home. Ron Allen NBC News New York Now, this sort of report is like hectic. It makes it sound like all hell's breaking loose even though these things are all obvious. Now the two things about the report... Of course you busted these guys for giving them the anarchist cookbook and now they're reporting that they had it. And the pressure cooker was something she was talking about cooking food in which of course is now code for explosives! Yes yes exactly. But I think that was outstanding that reading

CHAPTER 46 / 57 Discussion

Niqab in Court, Religious Freedom, and Identity Verification

The hosts question the legality of a defendant appearing in court wearing a niqab that covers everything but the eyes. They debate the tension between religious freedom and the court's need for identity verification. They suggest that such appearances might be part of a broader "gag" or ruse related to the high-profile nature of terror arrests.

niqab· burka· court· religious freedom· identity

2:27:34 But the first part, there was one thing in here that was just a little baffling. At the very beginning they had some woman and the report says you can play the first part of this clip. Tonight there are concerns about homegrown terror in this country what appears to be a growing number of Americans looking to join the terror group ISIS The latest case involves a Philadelphia mother-of-two NBC's Ron Allen has our report Kiana Thomas stood in court only her eyes visible She stood in court with this, with the thing on. With only her eyes... What kind of a court? allows a defendant to stand there with a mask on. It's like, could I go to court and wear like a Nixon mask or something and stand there? Well this is where the religious freedom becomes very interesting And it's...this is the dichotomy that certainly liberals have The problem is you can't...on one hand

2:28:33 Well, you know it's her religious freedom. She believes therefore she should be able to wear either the niqab or the full-on burka on the other hand... YOU HATE GAYS! You can't make a cake!! This is what's crazy. This is what drives people insane. Those outfits are Arab outfits, they're not necessarily religious. They're kind of taken as religious but it's nonsense! It's more cultural you're saying? Yeah, it's a cultural icon. I believe there is some language in the Quran. I mean they wear sometimes a headscarf, okay fine we're talking about a facial cover-up yes so we don't know who this woman is the judge doesn't know who it is it could be anybody could be someone else

2:29:19 It could be, it could be a guy. This is crazy that they allow this if it's true or just part of a joke, giant gag played on the public and they have her in this as though its acceptable in court. They shave your hair off a lot of times. They make you wear jumpsuits like your prisoner sometimes. They keep your handcuffs but she can wear this? Well here's a question maybe maybe it was all a ruse Maybe the whole arrest was a ruse. That's what I'm thinking, actually. Okay? Okay and i'll go with that... You mentioned the Boston Bombers Bob Bair

CHAPTER 47 / 57 Discussion

Bob Baer, Boston Bombing, and Sophisticated Explosives

Former CIA operative Bob Baer tells CNN that the Tsarnaev brothers could not have built the Boston Marathon bombs alone. Baer cites the sophisticated rewiring of the pressure cookers and the use of flash powder as evidence of professional training. He suggests that the "knuckleheads" lacked the expertise to deviate from the instructions found in Inspire magazine.

bob baer· boston marathon bombing· cia· explosives· tsarnaev

2:29:58 Who is, I love Bob Barry. He's always on CNN he's their analyst and they always call him the former CIA operative. What do you think he did at CIA? I don't know, did you look him up? No i dont think it says. I think it just says CIA Operative. You can kind of figure out what his itinerary was. Let me take a look... I never thought to look him up but your right. I think we did look him up at one point but Let me see, Bob Bair. Robert Bair American author former CIA case officer who was primarily assigned to Middle East so case officer that's not station chief that means you're not really in the field you talk to people amen come here and have a it does meetings

2:30:47 That's what I think he does, meetings. Okay meeting guy. So they asked Bob Bair about the Boston bombers of course it'd be an interesting trial there's a lot of questions about in fact there's a lot of things that were not did not come up in the trials the transcripts I've read but remember those all those guys who are walking around in paramilitary outfits from this...what was the name of that contractor? They had all the hats on, they had this super secret vans with all the stuff on top and the bomb squad was there. It was also coincidental that these things happened and Bob Bair Very similar to what you just said about, you know wanting to expand we need more. We need to have clusters He's just coming out and saying oh this is not done I haven't seen the investigation And I haven't really got deeply inside of it but a couple law enforcement people who want them bagged the evidence on this have been quite insistent to me that

2:31:41 that these two didn't build that bomb alone and undoubtedly they got help. And it's not for lack of trying, they tried to identify a third party Who they killed but they said the rewiring on the pressure cooker deviated from the inspire magazine They added that 35 pounds of flash powder those guys didn't make it alone and then there was the detonator and the command detonator which is clearly a Sophisticated device, and as one of these investigators told me these two knuckleheads did do this on their own This is I find this to be pretty interesting

CHAPTER 48 / 57 Discussion

Dagestan Training, FBI Failures, and Third Party Accomplices

Bob Baer speculates that Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have received explosives training during his time in Dagestan. The hosts interpret Baer's comments as a subtle critique of the FBI's failure to identify potential accomplices. They suggest the possibility that the brothers were "patsies" whose devices were not intended to explode, but were cut loose by their handlers.

dagestan· fbi· tamerlan tsarnaev· training· insurgency

2:32:18 Yeah, that is a great clip. He has a follow-up to it if you want to hear him because... Where is he again? No but he's no... What's he talking about in what show? CNN with Jake Tapper. And he's no longer in Colorado. He was in Irvine California for some reason Is law enforcement still actively looking for potential accomplices Oh, I think undoubtedly. And it goes back to Dagestan where Tamerlan spent a long time there and the question is did he disappear into the mountains of Dagestan and join an insurgency group? And get training or actually get instructions from somebody up there

2:32:55 But, you know the FBI is running into dead ends no doubt about it. And if they get any leads they will pursue them and they will indict a third person if that's who was one involved. No, kill him! So Dead Man Tell No Tales... Just to be clear and refresh our viewers there was this Inspire magazine, this jihadist magazine that had instructions on how to build a similar bomb But this one was different and you and your law enforcement sources say that neither brother had the expertise necessary to A, build these bombs in the Inspire magazine. And certainly not to do the rejiggering or rewiring

2:33:36 That actually happened. No we can now add to glitch and blip read jiggering rejiggering This would never get I've not heard this at all Everyone was all in oh they built it from how to build a bomb in the kitchen of your mom from inspire magazine It was all everyone was all-in This is where it came from their self radicalized their homegrown now turns out they probably according to Former CIA operative Bob Bair, these knuckleheads could not have built this. It was sophisticated! Well, this is an outrage. We have a master bomb maker on the loose! It's the rewiring that got them confounded because they really improved that device considerably and to make sure it went off and had maximum detonation on it so... And these two guys there was nothing in their background would suggest they could easily figure this out from experience or the rest of it

2:34:33 the possibility of someone helping them either on the ground in the United States or somebody at some point walking Tamerlan through this and letting him actually work on these devices. Oh gee, now I'm thinking... Are you thinking what i'm thinking John? Yeah two more Patsy's set up by the FBI but this time they were cut loose and the FBI backed off because these things weren't supposed to explode That's right And here's Bob Bair, former CIA operative making the FBI look bad. I think... It's just what he is doing but not overtly though. He is only doing it to people that can read between the lines which are not the public. 25 seconds

2:35:14 And then you talk to a lot of other people that just looked at the chase after this and the fact that they used improvised devices to break contact with police. That's something you don't pick up on the internet, you've got some sort of training or experience for instruction. So I think chances these guys... Shutup! Go away! Cut him off! The chances these guys operating alone are zero. You stepped on it. Listened what he says in the last video. Got some sort of training or experience for instruction So I think the chance of these guys... Go ahead, just finish your thought. Yeah the chances of these guys operating alone are zero. It's not anybody trying to cover this up they just can't identify that other party Oh okay How about FBI? I'll identify them for you. FBI is disgusting And how come we never see any interviews with any family members of the three victims? Ehh.. I think we have but I can't say But I couldn't find it

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ISIS Media Unit, 30-Second Briefing, and Social Media Propaganda

MSNBC introduces a "30-second briefing" on ISIS, focusing on the group's dedicated media unit that produces English-language propaganda. The segment highlights how ISIS uses platforms like Twitter and YouTube to inspire Western recruits by promising camaraderie and purpose. The hosts mock the brevity and sensationalism of the news format.

isis· social media· propaganda· msnbc· recruitment

2:36:16 So MSNBC has a new segment. Okay, it's called the 30-second briefing and let me out. Let me guess do I have to guess is it already seconds? Is this no and now it's not just that one of my I checked at this You have take their first a bunch of music they play like 10 seconds where the music on top of the third All right, but if they take one expert one topic 30 seconds is the way they begin it, and then they tease it. But then they have some guy come on about one topic where this guy's supposed to bring us up to speed and this topic is the one on this particular show. ISIS has been successful at recruiting by identifying a niche audience of extremists around the world and using social media. ISIS propagandist have focused their efforts on platforms like Twitter YouTube and Facebook. ISIS as an entire media unit dedicated to producing nothing but

2:37:07 English language propaganda aimed at young Muslims living in the West. By highlighting the roles recruits play on the battlefield, the group has successfully inspired others seeking camaraderie and a sense of purpose even as it shockingly executes innocence on camera." Oh, there's your ISIS in 30 seconds. Yeah. Well that is part of the giant...the big narrative with the clusters it's the same thing it just as this is going on they're targeting Americans oh my god what now? yeah Americans service personnel there's master bomb makers on the loose And the song is haunting. I love this song, such a hit! Oh this is the enhanced version with the swords? I love that version. There's a little interesting kind of double dealing going on This is just a very short clip I just thought was interesting The arms business Mody

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A-10 Warthog, Major General James Post III, and Treason Threats

Major General James Post III was dismissed after threatening his subordinates with "treason" charges if they spoke to Congress about the A-10 Warthog's superior capabilities. The Air Force has been attempting to retire the A-10 in favor of the expensive and troubled F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The hosts describe this as a whistleblower suppression issue intended to protect the interests of the military-industrial complex.

a-10 warthog· james post iii· air force· whistleblower· f-35

2:38:08 Oh, in India. There's a little clip here, it's kind of unique. Ah, Le Mirage! Very nice... very nice. Well I have some military industrial complex news, a follow-up kind of. I learned a lot about the A10 Warthog And I normally, also known as silent death or the zipper. These are terms that I'm now familiar with and we all shall become familiar with them

2:38:49 You'll recall there was a, and this is a couple months ago. They wanted to get rid of the A-10 Warthog actually this goes back much further they wanted the joint strike fighter the F35 which is this 400 billion dollar turd Yes, exactly Which doesn't fly I don't think it can fly It's no good Now they're trying to replace it with the Scorpion which... But the Warthog or the 35? No, the Warthog. The 35 that's ongoing but the problem is the warthog has been in business for 40 years and it had consistent upgrades and I'll get into it. It's a fantastic... The people in the field boots on the ground 11 Bravo they love it! And you're gonna hear why in a moment

2:39:35 But we need to...it's a very cheap plane. It only cost ten, when the first one was built it was less than 10 million dollars to build it if you continue to build them which they don't But you're still under $20 million per aircraft. You know, this thing is so beautifully constructed and flies low and slow at low altitudes I'm pretty sure with with an afternoon of ground flight training i could probably fly this it's a bit has the most powerful Gun gun yes, we have all air craft now they want to replace this remember the A-10 warthog And he's called the warthog because it's ugly and there's another reason for the sound that makes

2:40:13 It's called Silent Death or the Zipper. The Scorpion, and the boys and girls out there in the sand who are you know doing whatever they're told to do uh they call the Scorpion the Barbie Plane and if you look at the Scorpion it does look like a barbie plane actually it has a little bit of a... If you made it pink it would even look even better now the A-10 has a number of things You mentioned the gun it has this big 30 millimeter cannon like a Gatling gun on the front that has its engines mounted up to the rear, very efficient turbo fans. It can linger for... Two engines? Yeah two engines it can linger for four or five hours it can go slow and main thing is the pilot can see everything doesn't have to look through what they call the straw you know not some little video screen but because of the way the cockpit is constructed it's a big bubble he can see everything

2:41:04 And there's also a ton of titanium under his ass, which protects him from being shot by ground forces. So there was a general and his name is General...it is Major-General James Post III who was fired removed from his position for the following he had told everyone under his command and I can find his exact title, actually. He was in the Air Command and he told everybody if there's a congressman who asks you about the A-10 you may not tell that congressperson about the A-10s capabilities or I will have your court marshaled for treason. And this of course... What?

2:41:56 for treason. It would be treasonous to tell any congressperson that the A-10 is better than anything, saves lives and the guys on the ground love the A-10." Now who was this again? General... Major General James Post Why don't they bring him up in front of Congress and read him the riot act? I think they might have to do that. I'm not sure what happens when you're dismissed, I'm not exactly sure but he...the main thing was it would be treasonous and he threatened this is a whistleblower issue really, he threatened

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Close Air Support, 11 Bravo, and the Sound of Freedom

Ground troops, known as "11 Bravos," express a strong preference for the A-10 Warthog due to its effective close air support and the psychological impact of its 30mm Gatling gun. Pilots describe the aircraft as a "grunt in the sky" that can linger over battlefields and withstand ground fire thanks to its titanium armor. The distinctive sound of the gun is referred to by soldiers as the "sound of freedom."

a-10 warthog· close air support· 11 bravo· gatling gun· titanium

2:42:32 Everyone under his command, you cannot tell anyone in Congress about how good this plane is because obviously he's part of the military-industrial complex. His job is to usher the Barbie plane into existence." I have two quick clips here. This is a couple of Warthog pilots talking about what they do and how much they love this aircraft. It's a pretty easy answer to in terms of why are we here? Number one priority is always saving guys on the ground, The people that we so closely work with, the guy on the ground That's my whole soul and being is that guy on the ground you know He could be an 18 year old guy We hear the bullets flying

2:43:14 We hear him taking cover, we hear him breathing hard and it becomes a very personal mission especially when you start hearing about guys taking casualties down there. That hits very close to home nobody ever wants to hear that. Come on man! This is inside the cockpit as he's firing Hey kids

2:43:53 All right, so you can watch it. It's easier to see the video but the whole point here is when troops are on the ground and they're under fire and they need help... They love the Warthog because it comes in low. It can directly just blow everybody up on the ground with this 30mm cannon And their constant contact with each other with the pilot So they love it! Love it, love it, love it And it's really the air support for boots on the ground. Then we have the, this is the... what is he called? The JTAC, which is a joint

2:44:35 It's, I looked this up too. The Joint Terminal Attack Controller and these guys are all there in all these videos they're blurred out the voice hasn't changed but you can identify them because they might be dismissed under for treason so these are the guys who actually operate the theater and control everything going on They're even more in love with this aircraft as a witness in this clip With the 11 Bravos with the ground troops that I work with when they think close air support A-10s. If you tell them something else, you can always kind of hear them like I don't care about that. Tell me when the A-10's are on station and i think the reason for that is they almost share the same mentality if you were to say there was a grunt in the sky it would be a hog pilot They know the ground picture their mentality as well as 11 Bravo mentality its the same get down there

2:45:32 down and dirty, and kill bad guys. That aircraft is suited for doing that. It reassures 11 Brawlers every time you have a hog on station I think they know lot of the capabilities just because they're exposed to it and it's very distinguishable The noise when comes overhead has that squeal When you hear that gun...that sound is so distinguishable Everyone on the ground, it literally shakes the ground. It is amazing! You hear at first when it fires and then you hear echo from the gun in the sky That sound right there just drives 11 Bravos nuts. It's amazing. It's that sound of

2:46:15 Corny like freedom, but it really is. It's just it's the sound of don't mess with me scares off everyone and shows you're in good hands Now you do not want guys like this if you're in the military industrial complex You know what guys like this testifying like this In Congress? It's the sound of freedom It's like don't mess with us no you want to sell the Barbie plane And that's why these troops were threatened, and now this guy is being fired. I think so they can't bring him up on charges They just he's dismissed He's you know get him away and let's not have anyone talk about it This is scandalous. It IS scandalous! I want to play the sound of this thing that it makes like a little 30-second clip of the wine it makes and of The cannon with the echo the guy was talking about Now you understand the warthog There's the wine

CHAPTER 52 / 57 Discussion

Textron Scorpion, Barbie Plane, and Defense Contracts

The Textron Scorpion, dubbed the "Barbie Plane" by troops, is being positioned as a cheaper alternative to the A-10 Warthog. However, critics point out that the Scorpion lacks a built-in gun and the ruggedness required for close air support. The hosts argue that the push for the new aircraft is driven by corporate board memberships and defense contracts rather than the safety of soldiers on the ground.

textron scorpion· a-10· defense contracts· barbie plane· military

2:47:12 And here comes the fire. It's almost unbelievable, it sounds like a fart! Like a really loud fart... That's the warthog that's where it comes from. Yeah. It's like this Gatling gun on the front. I love it! Take that! Take that ISIS! It's funny because that is a Republic jet, and this new one is Textron. Yes it is Textron. And the new one looks pretty flimsy and they're bragging about how much it costs...they are claiming that the new jet which has no gun...it doesn't?

2:48:05 It does not have the... it is $20 million and in today's dollars compared to the Warthog, you have to assume that the 20 million will go to 40 then 60 and still be a piece of crap. This is just making jets for the purpose of making jets. But also in this case, it's going a little further if they should really replace the A-10, it's putting lives at risk They don't care. I know, but the thing that i guess i'm pointing out is that you would never hear about this on the mainstream because these guys have to be all in on uh...on the military industrial complex. You can't just start meddling with that No and it cost somebody some money and this general post guy he's probably got a job lined up outside mm-hmm And he has to do his you know he's gotta be in there

2:49:00 Doing what he has to do you want that job general you really want that board membership, but you better get this This deal done. I got that done We don't want to hear a bunch of soldiers bitching and moaning no No oh Hello yeah? Oh, I lost you there for a second it lost me Yeah, did you just saying this guy would be saying you know they do you take care your soldiers They're supposed to be taking orders not complaining well Get him shape them up So I'm in the brig. Yeah, well that's what he threatened He threatened treason which is even worse? Well i think that they needs to be taken before congress and read the riot act and again the dead contract should Be killed hmm do you really think it's going to happen a 10 thunderbolt 2 Go back into them they actually have that plane lot of them are the Thunderbolt twos yeah might Do i think That's gonna happen i think It could Happen I'd be surprised i

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PBS Science, Fart Rockets, and Space Suits

A PBS science segment explores the hypothetical physics of "farting your way through space." The program analyzes the mechanics of propulsion and whether biological gases could provide enough thrust to move a human in a vacuum. The hosts use this as an example of the declining quality of public television content compared to actual news reporting.

pbs· science· space· fart rocket· physics

2:49:59 I'd be surprised. I don't, wouldn't be surprised there's been crazier things that happened nobody pays attention to it i mean the guy could be out there and literally fired from his position by congress and they wouldn't be reported anyway there's not even a reporter watching these things no you know what PBS should be all over this don't you think is on a PBS type of thing I think they've actually discussed this a little bit already. But don't forget, they got all bunch of jet makers... Yeah! Boeing and Textron... I don't think Textron is one of the responsible but- I think they have? I do not think so but i think that could be Here's what PBS is doing They have science show Science! Let us no beat around bush You know you thought about it And today we're gonna answer

2:50:44 Could you fart your way through space? I mean, this is the kind of stuff that's on public television. This is fabulous! Why report on actual news?! You're kidding... No If space suits didn't put a firm barrier between you and the outside environment, space would kill you. But for the sake of this episode let's take some biological license and pretend that you could survive without a suit or if you prefer, pretend that you have a suit with special valves which allow you to pass gas into the vacuum of space Could then propel yourself with fart? And if you could how fast could they make me go before we can analyze the concept of a fart rocket? We need to understand the mechanics of those two ingredients separately that is arts and rockets That's PBS. I kid you not a fart rock Yeah, well you've been waiting for that one no I was really more of a throwaway actually but here's what I was waiting for my phone

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Same-Day Delivery, Amazon Prime Now, and Fingernail Polish

Amazon and Google are expanding same-day delivery services in Austin, Texas, promising groceries and household items within an hour. Reports indicate that a significant portion of these urgent deliveries in cities like New York consist of fingernail polish. The hosts compare the trend to the failed Webvan model of 1999 and question the actual necessity of such rapid delivery for most consumers.

amazon prime now· google· austin· same-day delivery· retail

2:51:43 The way I see it, the only good phone's a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. There you go! iPhone schmifon! Alright Johnny boy, I see you have tech news clips? I presume you have a tech news segment ready for us to go? I-I have two pieces of tech news... One involves Austin. I think we should play this Oh my goodness yeah That's terrific to a story that shows how apps and the tech economy are delivering a jolt to the traditional world of retail with the growth of same-day delivery. It's on the rise in a number of metro areas, and just today Amazon announced a plan to expand these services into Austin Texas. Ah! The Tech Economy? Did she really say the Tech Economy? Yeah yeah yeah...

2:52:27 Yes, I received this. It's a long segment that i didn't clip any other pieces out of but it goes like this Oh, we're going to have same-day delivery. We're going to have both Google and Amazon doing same day. And they are going to get groceries and then there's gonna be the little drone that is gonna drop packages off if you need it fast." There was actually Paul Solman who did the piece says, "...trending towards same day or better," which I'm thinking you get it yesterday... which seems unlikely. It's an hour, it's an hour to... Anyway goes on and on and then they finally conclude with there is only a very few people that need this service and it turns out that much of it is fingernail polish in some metropolitan areas especially New York where they have same day people who need fingernail polish apparently and they get a lot of it quickly from

2:53:17 and the post offices are getting involved, everyone's getting involved but then they study show that it's really a who needs it thing. I mean yeah people are into Silicon Valley San Francisco, they use it. They used it in 1999 when these stupid places...you know all these delivery services cropped up and then it failed and this is going to fail again. Webvan? Was that the name of the... Webvan was one of them. I received a notice from Amazon. I have downloaded the app. It's called Prime Now and you receive your goods within an hour, at the most two hours. And I've looked at some of the reviews and most of what i saw is... I was cooking baskety! And I ran out of an onion Thank You Prime Now

2:54:08 It seems like that's pretty much what people are using it for. Like, I forgot one little thing or maybe as you say... A $6 onion! By the way anyone who can cook worth a crap and get by without a lot of stuff in the recipe. You know how to cook? But you can also-I was thinking if you could buy a lawnmower they'll deliver it within an hour. I just looked at what was available. Who needs a lawn mower within an hour?! And what kind of pressing matter do we have? Most of this is pretty much like, why don't you just get off your ass and go to the store. We can agree that these news reports and that was from PBS NewsHour it sounded like... This is just advertising its commercials for these companies. It's just advertised I mean the Apple Watch from Kron, that's public television isn't not Kron? KRON that's up in your neck? No KRON is independent

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Apple Watch Launch, KRON News, and Retail Hype

Local news stations provide extensive, commercial-like coverage of the Apple Watch launch, featuring interviews with "techies" waiting in line at Apple stores. The reports detail shipping delays and the excitement of potential buyers trying on different models. The hosts criticize the media for providing free advertising for Apple and treating a gadget launch as a major news event.

apple watch· gabe slate· kron· retail· techies

2:54:56 Oh, it's not a... I thought it was a PBS company. No no no. It used to be an NBC affiliate. They lost their affiliateship because they couldn't play ball and then they just ended up becoming second-rate independent stations. They did this long commercial for the Apple Watch which was just disgusting! Disgusting? And everyone who is in this... and they're in the Apple store on their interview. Do you want to hear it or where is it? Now listen the Apple watch it is now on display in Apple stores people can hold it they can get a closer look Can't buy it yet that watches back ordered until June. In fact, some models will ship as late as August They're giving shipping details Just be ashamed people stores in the Bay Area packed today with potential watch buyers trying it off

2:55:42 Getting a close look at different models. It's horrible went online early this morning and quickly sold out our tech reporter Gabe Slate visit Gabe slate Do we know Gabe slate? No, okay He's a tech reporter just so you know which apparently means fashion that is an Apple store today to see I I don't hear anyone saying this is bogus. Where's the John C. Dvorak interview? I'll have my heart rate going and they actually did a funny thing here They did stop it and say wait a minute my best friend And

2:56:35 Did he just say the watch would be his best friend? Okay, so yeah as you can imagine a lot of the people packing the Apple stores today to check out The watch are serious techies. The ones who have to have the latest gadget I Have to stop I can't listen to it anymore the whole thing is one big commercial Yeah, oh commercial you're right Oh and everybody is doing this just providing commercial content for Apple its It's baffling. Unstoppable, baffling we have another tech news here or we can skip in that you have another one here cam app when this is actually interesting. Actually, we can put it to the next tech news it's not timely enough but

2:57:18 But I want to say that was listening to one of these podcasts. It has a lot of people talking like this, and they were...and it was like the...let's just say, I'm not going to berate them but I'm gonna say this is an Apple-oriented podcast which is not unusual. And they were just going on and on about how great it is that Apple's new policy to try to minimize the lines at the Apple store by having people order online. It's such a great, great idea from Apple! They are our fantastic company for doing this because those long lines were kind of like who does that? Nobody does weights in line and good thing for Apple. They went on and I'm thinking

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Apple Online Policy, Line Management, and Fanbase Loyalty

Apple's new policy to move product launches online to avoid long lines at physical stores is praised by tech podcasts. The hosts find it ironic that the same media outlets that previously hyped the lines as a sign of success now praise their removal. They mock the extreme loyalty of Apple fans who adapt their opinions to match the company's marketing shifts.

apple· retail· online ordering· marketing· suicide

2:56:35 Did he just say the watch would be his best friend? Okay, so yeah as you can imagine a lot of the people packing the Apple stores today to check out The watch are serious techies. The ones who have to have the latest gadget I Have to stop I can't listen to it anymore the whole thing is one big commercial Yeah, oh commercial you're right Oh and everybody is doing this just providing commercial content for Apple its It's baffling. Unstoppable, baffling we have another tech news here or we can skip in that you have another one here cam app when this is actually interesting. Actually, we can put it to the next tech news it's not timely enough but

2:57:18 But I want to say that was listening to one of these podcasts. It has a lot of people talking like this, and they were...and it was like the...let's just say, I'm not going to berate them but I'm gonna say this is an Apple-oriented podcast which is not unusual. And they were just going on and on about how great it is that Apple's new policy to try to minimize the lines at the Apple store by having people order online. It's such a great, great idea from Apple! They are our fantastic company for doing this because those long lines were kind of like who does that? Nobody does weights in line and good thing for Apple. They went on and I'm thinking

2:58:03 Wait a minute, they were all in on the waiting in line and all the free publicity they used to get. But now that Apple doesn't want to do that anymore... Right! That's great! It's like whatever these guys say you should all Apple users should commit suicide Wow what a great apple is genius for suggesting because I think a lot of these Apple users should commit suicide That wraps it up then I guess Phone my phone the way, I see it The only good phones a landline and the phone should be made out of bacon last right We need to update with some watch stuff didn't get that tech grouch guy out there and do something for us I Only had one more thing just as kind of a tosser for you really was for you. I've only built this for you if you want Here and now is a NPR program

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Kalettes, Hybrid Vegetables, and Show Sign-off

The show concludes with a discussion on "Kalettes," a new hybrid vegetable crossing kale and Brussels sprouts. NPR promotes the vegetable as a "superfood" for children, while the hosts describe it as a combination of the two worst vegetables. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from FEMA Region 6 and Northern Silicon Valley, promising to return on Thursday.

kalettes· kale· brussels sprouts· npr· sign-off

2:58:58 And they have a chief, the resident chef Kathy Gunst. She's talking about teaching kids the value of growing vegetables at school and you can only guess what kind of vegetable it would be Marijuana? Why yes, John. That's exactly what it is no kale of course hello. Oh kale and by the way just before the car crashed I was at a cool little restaurant here in Austin and they were selling sauteed calettes and this apparently is a real vegetable

2:59:41 A hybrid of a Brussels sprout and kale. Wow, take the two worst vegetables in the world and blend them! Who would come up with... what maniac? I know it's a kalette. K-A-L-E-T-T-E Kalette. Have you heard of this? No i have now yeah It's hurtful and while you look it up I'll play this uh how we are teaching our children and I had a whole argument that the waitress she got mad at me I said, what is this? A calet? Is that actually kale and a brussel sprout that's real she said yes. I said do you want some i said no absolutely not! And she kind of pissed at me who wants the kale as garnish and now you're ruining the brussel sprouts with it yeah all right here is um here and now

3:00:30 And this is teaching children the value of kale. So you get a lot of bang for your buck, but the most exciting thing is the education that goes on I can be in the grocery store locally sometimes and I'll see kids from the school shopping with their parents and they'll hold up a bunch of kale in their basket next to the toilet paper and the paper towels where it belongs by the way belongs next to the toilet paper you kale the paper towel And the mother looks at me like yeah, he's hooked on kale and I think this It's really working hooked on kale look a new t-shirt Have more tail have more tail have more tail have more tail have more tail have more tail You will find this thing. Oh there it is colette yeah, colline Lee Yeah, it's a disgusting problem and Brussels sprouts hybrid

3:01:31 Where do you even get this stuff? It's also, that's broccaflowers another Broc- Brocaflower. Yeah and that's none of this is good John This probably gets tons of money for the per pound better than Brussels sprouts These are the new vegetables for 2015 according to NPR superfood Super food It says, does the cross between Brussels sprouts and kale sound like your vegetable dream come true? Sure does. No no all right we'll finish with that thank you very much for listening remember us there at Dvorak.org slash NA we need all the help we can get wouldn't mind it being up a little bit more from today coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of drone star state in the morning everybody

3:02:27 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am going out right now to track down some Kletz. I am John C Devorah We will be back on Thursday, right here on NO Agenda. When the voice is that high and contains hook or fry thats annoying There's a need for rescue mission when the world is threatened The world needs help it calls on America

3:03:11 And that's the story. Adios, mofo!