2:23:12 She's not officially in the presidential race yet, but Hillary Clinton is under tough new scrutiny this week after revelations that she relied exclusively on a private—not government—email account operated from her personal server when she served as Secretary of State. Today, a House Oversight Committee subpoenaed those emails for an ongoing Benghazi investigation. Street Journal's Laura Meckler has been covering the story. Laura, how unusual is it that anybody any Secretary of State would be using a personal email account exclusively?
2:23:49 Well it wasn't that unusual, frankly because there haven't been that many secretaries of state since email became sort of the normal way to communicate in business. Secretary Colin Powell used a personal account his staff confirmed this week. Secretary Rice who followed him evidently didn't use email and then we have Secretary Clinton. Secretary Kerry uses a regular State Department email address himself Okay I know what happened...I know what happened This is a total... this is, ugh. This is so obvious! Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Ooh, look at that! I figured it out! Well just go! Who broke this story? Who broke the story about the emails? The New York Times And I was watching the-I didn't clip it because I didn't understand and now I wish I had Maybe I can look it up Uh, the journalist who broke the story
2:24:43 Um, hmm. We have to figure out who that is now He was on Morning Joe This is why I didn't understand what was going on And he had a real soft take on it and Mika and Joe were wow we're kind of stunned this guy wasn't out for blood or anything Here's what happened Huge scrutiny on the Clinton global initiative with money being donated billions of dollars coming into the coffers of the Clintons which Hillary's on the door The little girl Chelsea is on the girl on the door at bills on the door and everyone's name is up there This is the real scandal. Oh my god, we need to do anything
2:25:20 we can to distract from it, boom New York Times comes out with this email bullcrap. She already gave the emails a year ago that printed them out whatever we know it's not an actual issue I think it's a complete red herring cover-up to remove the conversation from the foreign country donations to the Clinton family. This is a huge problem with them they have a lot of for the Saudis also big but no one's talking about that anymore No, they're talking about this. Now this was seems to be and you're right This is an old story because this is actually And nobody mentions this by the way cuz I don't think anybody wants to backtrack on it. This actually stems from a this hacker Mitnick a goosepher
2:26:04 Guccifer in March of last year, March 2013. And he went to jail! So this story actually predates his going to jail when he had hacked into Blumenthal's account which was an AOL account and pulled down the emails He discovered the Hillary email address I have here Friday August 2nd 2013 from search dot NA show notes dot com When Colin Powell's email was broken into by Guccifer This is where it started, I think. Probably and anyway the Guccifer guy who's into Slammer...I guess i don't know what..i think somebody you might be right that somebody said well wait a minute we got this kind of nobody gives a shit scandal that we can bring to the fore which will get a lot of attention
2:26:53 And that's exactly what's going on. But the funny thing about The New York Times story and all the rest of it, nobody mentions Guccifer! Well no we wouldn't want to... I looked down this Guccifer thing and i said oh Guccifer We don't want to reveal-we don't want to reveal the scam So I looked and looked and looked, and I found the New York Times didn't talk about Guccifer. The AP didn't talk about Gucci-fur. And then there's Reuters... Nobody! This is the way I got this was again from some like you had. This is some it's not a normal blog, but it's one of these new obscure No, this was from the smoking gun So I don't have I don't have a clip But I do have a a clip of this Do you want to listen to this MS? The morning Joe thing for a second just how weird they were weirded out by this New York Times guy Oh wait that didn't work Why does
2:27:48 Why is this? I need, oh. I'm sorry. I need to... Let me just set the... There we go. I got it. I can fix it! Here we go let's rock and roll! Go! Go! The guy can't get a megaphone It's not like he couldn't have gone on 60 Minutes. It's not like he could've spoken somewhere else He went before Congress- I'm sorry that's not the right one That's about Well, anyway so the woman stays on at news hour. We have a second part of it if you want to play it and its just going to wraps up. Yeah what's the name? Clinton Rundown Part 2. Okay let me put that in and I'll look for that. But exclusively without any other dot gov address involved?
2:28:31 Secretary Kerry, well Secretary Clinton of course just used as you said just use her personal email address. Secretary Powell did in fact do that just to use a personal email as well yes and and have your own personal server they called homebrew which is connected to her home actually how unusual I guess it's unusual for most people but how unusual is that I guess the question is how much does this keep public business private? Well, I think that's the real question here. I think you put your finger on it and as a question why does she have her own not only her own email address and not just get the one that it's assigned to at work like the rest of us do but you know why did she take the additional step to set up her own network now Jeb Bush also had used in personal email address and he also had his own owned his own servers as well
2:29:22 But in his case, he was regularly turning them over to the state. So there was a difference. In the case of Hillary Clinton she didn't turn any of these over for public examination until after she left office and received her request. Well that's one of the questions. She has been under with this Benghazi investigation pretty constant investigation for awhile why are we just hearing now about the existence of this private account? Well, I don't think people really knew that it was only the case. It came out through the committee's investigation as they requested those emails. Now we should say that the State Department did request those emails themselves as part of what they say is a routine effort to comply with federal records keeping requirements and so they asked for all of her e-mails and then subsequently turned some of them over to the House Committee. All right here we go
2:30:07 I had this is the Michael Schmidt from The New York Times who broke the story with Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski. didn't do email according to my reporting Colin Powell did and But the rationale that Hillary's side said was, well we didn't have to have a state account because the emails she was sending were to the State Department and those people's accounts were caged in. Hold on! Talk about the difference between Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton How is it different between what Colin Powell did from 2001... There is no difference. It's not so much as different. There is a difference. What Colin Powell did from 2001-2005
2:30:46 and what Hillary Clinton did in her four years as Secretary of State. Well, Colin Powell's not running for president What else? Did-did Colin Powell release the emails? No, Colin Powell didn't release the emails and Hillary Clinton is the only former secretary of state to actually go back and give the State Department her emails which after I just So this guy is now defending her! The guy who broke the story in The New York Times is saying, oh no she did a good job and wait until you hear their response. and said yes, I had 55 thousand pages of emails. Okay so the difference according to...I believe i read it in your story this morning It must have been your story because you broke it The difference was that when Colin Powell was Secretary of State there weren't the laws in place because we obviously moved into a new era And so once we've moved forward- I'm trying to fast forward this cause I know what's coming just can't do it for some reason The federal government decided that they needed
2:32:01 these accounts is that correct? That's true. There were new regulations between Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton, Colin Powell was not required by law to do this Hillary Clinton was required by law to do this true or not? There were explicit regulations in place when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State that said they had to be retaining her emails on government servers sort of in an active sense right And that was not the case when Colin Powell was Secretary of State, correct? I don't believe so. Okay so now there's a response here. Kudos to The New York Times for breaking the tough news story and putting it on the front page. Yeah, I'm telling you uh... i think your absolutely right and just watching a massive onslaught
2:32:42 lot of hatred from what I've been following on Twitter as Hillary supporters. It's hard, there is a big wall around her of people who work very hard to protect you. I wonder because they are absolutely brutal Mika. I wonder if the New York Times reporter himself was getting abuse through the night because his interview with us was a strange interview? I think we have it, but we have another story to get too. I think we need to be careful how we say it because there was something else happening in this interview and you wonder about that if the fear of retribution or something gets into your head. No no she's got at the wrong... they're right somethings weird with The New York Times guy. Yeah they got him backwards They got him backwards! This was set up to cover-up the other story
2:33:34 Wow. Alright, well we've solved... I like the way that you were getting it backwards he does even a better job and draws even more attention Fantastic! To this bullcrap story So they're by the way... Implicit in these two, great This is the bull crap story And we figured it out. If Hillary became president, I hope she'd have her own server and she would just give people a clue that you don't need to be on these Gmail... Oh! The only reason she got busted was because this other guy was on AOL But not even busted? This is set up just-this is all known, this is an old story She did get busted back in
2:34:12 two years ago. Exactly, when the guy came across her email on this with Blumenthal and the only reason that would even happen in the first place because these places these big systems that are they're not secure And the government's always asking for, give us all the emails and... Adam. Google scans your email for Google Now to see what you're doing to alert you. Of course it is not secure. It is built into it that is being read processed. Anyway so when you are around the water cooler today tomorrow or rest of week and people are talking about Hillary's emails a lot of you will be talking about this because your dude name Ben or dudette name Bennett
2:34:49 And people will be like, oh, what can we...not safe email. Serve at your home! You just say this is all a red herring has nothing to do with that whatsoever. This is all old news. This was to cover up the donations from Saudi Arabia, Algeria and other countries of billions of dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative which for all intents and purposes, we don't see go anywhere but into the Clintons pocket in their hotels in Haiti. Well again how did Bill Clinton become worth half a billion dollars overnight? Magic! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fab! On No Agenda! Morning! And we do have some people to thank for Show 701. You gotta hand it to the Clintons man. They're geniuses. Top notch criminal organization. Top notch. They know how to do this. Hey you see that problem of billions of dollars? Gone!