50 Shades of Terror

00:00 This is designed for porn. Celebrating our final days as lawful content live from FEMA Region 6 in downtown Austin. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i am anticipating episode 700, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In the Morning! That is right... 69D9 dudes!!

00:38 That's cute. 69, 9. Amen fist bump. Amen fist, but I'm in for Stewart on why he's leaving the Daily Show says Conservatives are killing me What is this doing came out? Oh really explained at length why he's leaving the daily show He started by showing clips of reaction to his announcement And then he goes our Fox News channel where Megyn Kelly has seen talking about how nasty Stuart got I care not Well I do care because i have a number of Fox clips today. Because apparently Fox... Wait wait wait stop before we go anywhere, I need to give you some props! Okay As we say in hip-hop land Some props for your Redbook prediction which came true within two weeks of the prediction Yeah I try to keep it tight

01:35 Amen. Fist bump! Yeah, real good. Real tight. Brian Williams you predicted in the Red Book suicide and not even... headline big at the supermarket You called me on it when I made the prediction It was so easy No no that's not what you did I'll go back and get the clip What did i say? You said oh bullcrap what kind of dumb prediction is that Because its so easy I said of course its gonna be easy It doesn't matter if you called it. It's in the book, and you nailed it What was it? National Enquirer which is no no see this the problem you made a mistake wasn't inquirer. It was to glow That was the national Inquirers baby sister Oh boy And it's not it doesn't get you know so there's nothing scripted This is a script to get him back on track somebody sent an eclipse showing that he still actually doing

02:26 I don't know if this was maybe just older, the guy was misinformed but there's a thing called NBC Everywhere that they play in the taxi cabs in New York City. Yeah yeah They took a photo of him on this thing He's been relegated to taxi cab broadcast? Yeah, that's cool. I mean that's I think that I think actually there is one thing lower than Podcaster and that's got to be the yellow cab broadcast network. Well, I think even lower than that's the gasoline station Well you can't really hear it you can't see it Because the screens all sitting down on the monitor you can't see anything cab caster

03:07 Hi everybody, I'm Brian Williams your cabcaster for today in the morning. Hey, I'm much better now say oh well I thought was allergy so you can't be better no it wasn't allergies No, I had flu get a cold. I flew that was flu someone referred to me And hadn't heard this term in decades as typhoid Mary Have you ever heard that? Oh yeah here at all the time I don't know why I hadn't heard it in decades and I've had to look it up Oh, geez. Who was typhoid Mary? Yeah well how does...you're not in Typhoid Mary because you're actually sick! I was patient zero in Austin before the Curry's Typhoid Mary. Mary Mallon better known as Typhoid Mary. She never showed symptoms that was the deal Well it was the first oh let me see with a first person United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the pathogen associated with typhoid fever

04:03 She was presumed to have infected 51 people, three of whom died over the course of her career as a cook. So she was asymptomatic so she was a carrier but did not actually get typhoid herself? How does that work? She had typhoid but it was asymptomatic means she'd had no symptoms of typhoid but she had it It's just one of these things that happens with many diseases. So she was rolling around, you know feeling great and coughing on people, licking them, giving kisses and hugs, giving everyone typhoid. This is 1900 so it's interesting how

04:44 That stays around for a hundred years. I don't know, I kind of like that. Well it was good... well it sounds good Typhoid Mary. It was the guy named you know Gwyneth, typhoid Gwyneth wouldn't work or a guy named Bill. Mary has a nice sound. Bubonic plague bill? No. Bubonic Bill. Yeah so yeah there's I think most of the uh yeah no yeah and I think most of Most of the diseases have asymptomatic elements with certain people. But you were symptomatic, so that does this both ways... You're just a careless spreader! I didn't realize I was...I did not fit the description sorry

05:30 Well, you fit the description of an irresponsible. That's what I would say. Coughing on people. No, not irresponsible! You come in from New York sick and infect the whole town with your hugs and kisses. Two kisses in this smack-smack thing that you guys do? No man we don't do kisses anymore. Amen fist bump. That's all we do amen fist bump. It's to stay healthy amen fist bump. Wow. Douches. Every time I hear that it makes me shake your head. I know, I know Wow, I'm not nearly as irresponsible as Judd Johnson. Oh, Judd Johnson? Judd Johnson. Some call him... He went on the telescreens and said oh yeah that video with a guy who talked about the mall Yeah we need more where's my budget This was this was- I had to follow this story and i know that everyone has seen this about The Mall of America but it was very interesting

06:31 to follow what was going on. This is all politicized, and of course you know what do we have now? Tomorrow at midnight the Department of Homeland Security will be defunded! Now it's not gonna happen no... It's just more of the same bullcrap that always goes on and then then the news loves to jump on it And it was in fact the news who somehow we got this video of this guy and then they showed some of the Kenya mall. Hold on, I have the... Oh yeah! What are they showing the Kenya mall for? How long ago was that? Because all those 2013 because all they wanted to do was get Joe Johnson on to say hey you can't defund me and gave everybody a raison d'etre for talking here's CBS NBC little mashup of... A little French on us huh? Yeah may we

07:19 New little mashup of CBS and NBC. Someone gave them this video, and I'm sure it was the Psych Intelligence Group... Or maybe it was just someone, some staffer at DHS. Here let's get this conversation started. On alert the iconic mall of America tightening security in the wake of a new terror threat Meanwhile the clock is ticking with Congress locked in a bitter battle over how to fund DHS If congress can't resolve its differences by Friday The agency that oversees much of the nations security operations will run out of money. Days before the Department of Homeland Security... They're already in front of the Mall of America doing these reports. ...budget is set to run out, Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson laid out the implications of a looming shutdown 30 thousand would be furloughed if funding runs out by this week. The way they use the word runs out I know!

08:16 There's 300,000 people as far as I know in Department of Homeland Security that oh 30 000 will be furloughed. It was 10 percent! That's not quite as bad as they make it seem. The rest would be required to show up without pay what is complicating things is that Johnson's agency the department of homeland security is set to run out of money there is a battle in congress over the president... It works well because this is what people understand hey I ran out of money Oh yeah, run out. Recent immigration actions and DHS funding is in the crosshairs Funding for DHS runs out midnight Friday And as of now it's unclear how the Republican-led Congress will break the impasse Bullcrap, bullcrap But then Johnson goes on CNN and ABC...and he made a mistake

09:04 Because I know there's one thing you do not say in the United States of America. There is one thing you never ever want to thwart people from, and that's shopping! This is very dumb of Jeh Johnson to... Oh. This is very dumb, this is... I know where you're headed with this. This is not good, you're right. No! This is stupid. After 9-11 what did President Bush say? He said go shopping. You remember that?! Yeah. Go shopping like going to the mall tomorrow. And here's his initial response And the little nugget in here I didn't know.

09:52 We take any potential threat seriously and respond appropriately. We have implemented extra security precautions, some may be noticeable to guests and others won't." Some won't be noticeable? What are you telling Americans who might be planning a trip to the mall this Sunday? The answer is shop till ya drop baby! It's never this... What we're telling the public in general is you've got to be vigilant. We just revamped our If You See Something Say Something campaign. Hold on a second! They just revamped the campaign? Yes, they did. Did they use our... No! Nooo! Again, a missed opportunity from the Department of Homeland Security This is Sir Jeff's best work Sir Jeff Smith from Nashville

10:46 And it's catchy and everyone would be... nobody knows that you've revamped your if-you-see something say something campaign. The only the first time I heard about it is him saying it! I heard about it a couple weeks ago but I didn't hear no jingle! That would be a revamp! At the Super Bowl last month, so public engagement public awareness It's critical. Americans should still feel that they are free to associate, they are free to go to public gatherings but it is critical that we have public awareness and public participation in our efforts Are they safe going into the mall of America today? If you want to take your kids to the mall of America Yes! Go shop That was a question thrown in for specific reason to get him to save himself And what did he do

11:39 He dug the hole even deeper. I would say that if anyone is planning to go to the Mall of America today, they've gotta be particularly careful and as the statement you read indicates there will be enhanced security there that will be apparent The people that are security as well there will be enhanced security apparently not but public vigilance public awareness and caution In situations no, no. No juice on the right side of this you could tell she was playing it would come on You can say you know right he did I guess whoever hired him assumed That he knew the drill no no screwed it up and then Josh

12:18 Josh Earnest, a spokeshole extraordinaire for the White House. He had to go and downplay it all and it was very uncomfortable to watch him do this because what he had to say is... well, he had a couple of talking points and just kept... It's really outrageous when you hear these clips how the American public It's just being lied to and it is so obvious that we're being lied to. And then they walk these statements back, and cover it up with... Just-it's obvious! But no one ever says hey this guy is a shithead and he lied and there was no threat whatsoever? No. Do you think the secretary overstated the threat to America's models over the weekend? Uh, no I think the pre-the secretary was uh noting how important it is for the American people to continue to be vigilant. That said

13:10 The intelligence community has said that they are not aware of any specific credible plot against the Mall of America or any other... So, the intelligence community which I think includes Department of Homeland Security were very clear and he's gonna repeat this a couple times but they're not letting him go on. Because immediately after Jeb Johnson came out with his bullcrap Every store owner in the Mall of America called the White House complaining, hey you're killing us here. This is not how we run things in America. But we certainly are mindful of the threat that exists and that's why DHS has their See Something Say Something campaign. We encourage people to be vigilant. What? Again, again a missed opportunity! They license the damn slogan they can license the jingle. If-we could probably make licensing that jingle if Sir Jeff would donate it us. We could probably do like 10 grand a year maybe

14:14 Maybe. I don't know what they're thinking! They're not thinking straight, but the fact of the matter is that the intelligence community has indicated that there's no specific credible plot against... The intelligence community has indicated? Why do reporters not go- excuse me Who is the intelligence community? Does that not include Joe Johnson's outfit there? The mall and that, um... You know essentially this is a reaction to a propaganda video. Which means shut up just believe me. That was put out by a terrorist group in Africa. In Africa?! Far away! Far away! I love that. Man, this was essentially a video... Spoko Haram? It's put out by a terrorist group in Africa and I recognize that may be why the issue of mall security has come to the attention of people in this room but the fact is- No! it came to our attention because Judd Johnson said Be Careful! The matter is the administration has been mindful Mindful Of this risk Yeah

15:11 four years now. And that's why Secretary Johnson was yesterday when he was asked about this, was able to indicate that we'd already been in touch with local law enforcement and we've already been in touch with individuals who are responsible for security at shopping centers and even the specific shopping center But I want to reiterate what the intelligence community has said about there not being any specific credible threat that they're aware of. You just can't say it enough! I want to reiterate, there is no threat. No threat? Please go shopping here is...I think this is the guy from Fox again who's getting all that airtime so this is probably scripted And the answer certainly is. What he said specifically was, if anybody is planning to go to the Mall of America today they have got to be particularly careful Yes Does the White House agree with that specific statement? Pretty simple question If somebody's going to the Mall of America today How do we answer this one

16:06 Hmm. This is the crux of the problem. They've got to be particularly careful. Be careful, be careful. That would suggest a specific threat or heightened threat level right now at a specific place Yes and what I have said it would be more importantly with the intelligence community has assessed do it one more time What they have said there were not aware any specific credible plot against them all of America Or any other domestic commercial shopping center? And I think what that secretary was trying to say and what he Uh, as what's his responsibility to say is that the American people should remain vigilant. So you get the idea big mistake and while um the White House was trying to cover up this obvious faux pas Johnson goes out and I don't know where did this guy come from?

16:54 Where did we find him? I'm sorry, this is... We should look into it. Yeah we should look into this. He's just a bureaucrat that has been around let us check it out. It's possible he has one of those big like football rings on which I find very annoying on men in suits Oh yeah you got one of those big giant... Like Super Bowl ring or whatever. Yeah big crummy ring. You know quite like that. He went on ABC with the Stephanopoulos and just said it. My view was this. Surprise! Wow, and we couldn't stop that relatively simple command and control system?

17:43 We're now in a different phase that is more complex, more decentralized, more diffuse. Which involves pretty effective use by these groups of the internet of social media, of print and so we've got to bring to this a whole-of-government approach which includes... A whole-of-government approach? This is another one of those things that keeps being reiterated which just makes no sense You have the EPA in there doing this Who else is going to be helping? Not only does it happen all the time, but they never seem to be able to stop it. So I don't know what good this is going to do. What good is it doing? The community here at home and so...

18:47 That's one of the reasons, frankly why it is imperative that we have a budget for the Department of Homeland Security which is due to expire at the end of the week. Okay very good Jeff. Okay his background how he got into the position he's in on January 8th was the General Counsel for the Defense Department given the job by Obama in 2009 and then moving him up to like... He's a bureaucrat. He's a lawyer turned government stooge Yes, Stooge. Now... He did say something and I think this-I don't know where if this was CNN you know trying to localize this problem and have a funny another funny clip about this but the whole idea is hey if we let Department of Homeland Security run out of money then your local law enforcement runs out of all kinds of groovy grants

19:50 Um, that's not true. Well listen to what he says as long as we're on a continuing resolution We cannot fund new grants Oh this was a speech New Grants Yeah Of A non-disaster assistance nature so we fund several billion dollars year in grants for Homeland Security to state and local law enforcement. Well, we got a bunch of these things that look badass. I don't know how sexy they are if you don't mind military vehicles driving around We used to have these friendly looking cop cars black and whites Yeah black and white so now we've got these huge battering rams in front and light bars Now you're talking! Light up the sky You think hell is breaking loose when one of these guys turns these things on lights them up But Jeh has more To sheriffs police chiefs

21:00 police commissioners, mayors and governors. Apparently he gives grants to mayors and governors! All this money is just flowing right down... Does that sound like bribery to anybody? It does to me! For Homeland Security for their surveillance equipment, their communications equipment, they're things vital to Homeland Security are grant making with FY15 money as long we're on a continuing resolution so as long as we're on a CR It raping restricts our ability to do the things that we can't do for the American people. Good! Yeah, like raping us... So this idea of grants for local protection was picked up by and now she's the vice chair of the Appropriations Committee I did not realize this is Senator Mikulski This moron woman She's Democrat from California She's the one that looks like

21:53 the lady from poltergeist come to the light carry in? Oh yeah, I've seen this woman. She's a horror she looks she's nasty looking woman but not only that the things that come out of her mouth and she's on the appropriations committee you have to wonder why is this woman representing anybody anybody we need to pass the homeland security fiscal appropriations for 2015. We have the right money and the place to be able to do it with the right policies, to be able to do this. What? And when we talk about defending America and defending our homeland it comes back to local communities, to our local law enforcement and to our local fire department who are on the

22:43 on the first scene, any scene anytime 24-7. I thought she was going to say six at that point Our local, this is the fire department. Our local fire department are on the scene any scene 24... 5 6 7. She had that she had it she was using her fingers to get it through there What is she saying? The Fire Department now stops terrorism I'd like to know what happened in the Democrat Party It was the Republicans who put all this stuff into play and all of the progressives and liberals Oh! This a police state these nasty bastard Republicans shit heads, what are they doing to this country? Now these guys are more bloodthirsty than the Republicans. Let me tell you something really bad. So CNN apparently has a newscast for schools which is... And airports I'm sorry and airports yes it's a different one though obviously but this is the scholastic one for I think its middle and high school

23:43 And how can this, I don't know if this is actually shown. I should probably research this... How many schools show the CNN special school news report? But how can this be healthy for our children? This is CNN STUDENT NEWS, current events from middle and high school classrooms with zero commercials. I'm Carl Azuz. Today's show starts with coverage of a threat. The Al-Shabaab terrorist group which is based in Somalia is telling terrorists to attack shopping malls in the U.S., the United Kingdom and Canada Al-Shabaab is linked to the al Qaeda terrorist network and it carried out an attack at a mall in Kenya in 2013 that killed dozens of people. Woo! This latest statement from Al Shabaab, this is the news for schools

24:29 For kids. We're scaring the kids! Yeah Just scaring them and they show maps of- yeah, just make the kids nervous wrecks so they need to take drugs. Yeah Reflects on a new phase we've evolved too in the global terrorist threat in that you have groups such as al Shabaab ISIL Publicly calling for independent actors In their homelands to carry out attacks. Yeah What? I said there's so many Al-Shababians around the United States. They're gonna be carrying out attacks. These groups would send foreign operatives into countries after being trained someplace, we now want to stop

25:10 Give us one example of that happening here in the USA besides these phony baloney things that were lone wolves, that were set up by the FBI. Yeah give me one lone single one example of one of these events in the United States since it's apparently been going on for a while they've been planning this but give me one come on. Come on! Shoe bomb no um uh time square bomber time square bomber Isis uses social media I'm sorry go off by the way And by the way, the Times Square bombing was caught by civilians. Yes. The great security apparatus didn't do crap about it until after the fact! I just wanted to raise the issue that it is not okay... ...to have 10 minutes of terror news for children in school. Yes and they can't even balance a checkbook meanwhile. Elementary students were doing a- what was this?

26:11 Where was this? Oh, that was Japan. It doesn't count forget about it here is um Everyone everyone was all over anything we could do anything We could say about you know just frightening the American public and and subsequently the world because this doesn't stop here James Comey former board of directors of HSBC the corrupt money laundering drug running mega bank Who is now a prosecutor, he's a lawyer, a prosecutor. He famously threw Martha Stewart in jail good job so he's the man for terrorism and he had... Do you have a call? Yeah I keep talking You know there's a ringer you can probably shut it off And um... are you talking to somebody now No i'm just seeing if there was anybody on that line It's not just a dead call

27:05 All right. Comey, maybe a month or so, maybe six weeks ago said that he reported... He says there is ISIS lone wolves inspired in 49 states. Yeah I know i've got these clips. He didn't have Alaska So Alaska has now been added to the list. ISIS uses social media like a job fair! Woohoo! Have you noticed this? I haven't seen it yet, but... Yeah yeah, I'm picking up gigs everywhere. Job Fair. Oh there's 300 people in line. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

27:49 ISIS uses social media like a job fair. That, he says is how terrorists snagged three New York men the latest to face ISIS charges." Now remember this is the FBI who are the inventors of the six-week cycle A couple days early March 1st was supposed to be the date for the six week cycle so they came with it a bit early This is the best they could do? It's pretty pathetic! If you read The New York Times I have Hold on a second. This is the description, two young men living in Brooklyn were arrested charged with plotting to travel thousands of miles to fight under the banner of the Islamic State Well before you get off the call me thing I do have this clip you gotta play Do you want me to finish this one?

28:33 Well, this is the Comey clip talking about this. Well he's about to talk about it Oh okay play it I have homegrown violent extremist investigations in every single state and until a few weeks ago there was 49 states Alaska had none which i couldn't quite figure out but alaska has now joined the group So they know who it is then? There's a guy and he said, go get him. Go get him! So we have investigators that... This is another version of the same clip he keeps this is his theme for the week I want to play this because this is on Anderson Cooper show so he plays the clip and then he throws it and here she comes this is like so pathetic Fran Townsend

29:16 The CIA girl comes on to add a little embellishment. I have homegrown violent extremist investigations in every single state, right? Until a few weeks ago there was 49 states Alaska had none which i couldn't quite figure out but Alaska is now joined the group so welcome alaska we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states It's really interesting I think for a lot of people to hear that because you don't, as much as we know about when we've seen what has happened around the world and even here in the United States with the number of incidents it is still kind of shocking to hear that every state of the union there are investigations going on. And he didn't say is that in every state of the union there was one

29:57 in certain communities like New York, there's many more than one. The FBI's world investigative resources are incredibly stretched and so it's important in places like New York that they're working with the local police department to develop sources to develop leads and to do surveillance and follow them and so... Go away Fran yeah Fran. This is this pile on! Yeah well then everyone was jumping on of course we also are still waiting for the approval, what is it now? For the ratification of the joint proposal... a joint resolution for the authorized use of military force. We really need all this stuff so

30:35 But everyone, yeah it was just piling on and piling on. It was ex-FBI guys, everybody was being rolled out to just talk about this. Today in New York City the latest plot to blow up Coney Island. Coney Island? Really?! This is this is a goodie. You know what? Yeah, it's time to blow up Coney Island. It should really scheme authorities say by three Brooklyn men now in federal custody according to this criminal complaint unsealed today the manager right? It's two broken guys and again Florida they got details details 1924 and 30 from Uzbekistan 19 years old there's not a man the punk

29:57 in certain communities like New York, there's many more than one. The FBI's world investigative resources are incredibly stretched and so it's important in places like New York that they're working with the local police department to develop sources to develop leads and to do surveillance and follow them and so... Go away Fran yeah Fran. This is this pile on! Yeah well then everyone was jumping on of course we also are still waiting for the approval, what is it now? For the ratification of the joint proposal... a joint resolution for the authorized use of military force. We really need all this stuff so

30:35 But everyone, yeah it was just piling on and piling on. It was ex-FBI guys, everybody was being rolled out to just talk about this. Today in New York City the latest plot to blow up Coney Island. Coney Island? Really?! This is this is a goodie. You know what? Yeah, it's time to blow up Coney Island. It should really scheme authorities say by three Brooklyn men now in federal custody according to this criminal complaint unsealed today the manager right? It's two broken guys and again Florida they got details details 1924 and 30 from Uzbekistan 19 years old there's not a man the punk

31:22 This is a punk. He's just a blowhard kid! Yeah! They get this poor schmuck to say that and then they've got something... It's so... ah, this is so wrong My version I think having more details it's interesting 23 boneheads arrested Because they read from the transcript of the phone calls. Warning for the director of the FBI. Welcome everybody to The Kelly File, I'm Martha McCallum in for Megyn Kelly So as we continue to witness these atrocities these kidnappings These beheadings at the hands of ISIS the threat now They set the scene By the way i love watching Clayton Morris Natalie Morris's husband on Fox talking about this stuff

32:33 He's like, yeah it was all these beheadings and Clayton. And Kennedy now, Kennedy who broke my ass in the MTV shoot she is also on Fox this is pathetic you people are pathetic. He's closer to home today because three men originally in this country legally now face charges two nabbed here in New York they were living in Brooklyn the other in Florida plan to wage jihad overseas and if they couldn't get there, they threatened to kill Americans. One of their target? The President of the United States! It comes on the same day that the FBI director reveals his agents are inspecting and investigating suspicious people in pretty much every corner of America. Trace Gallagher joins us now with a full report from our West Coast newsroom Hi Trace

33:24 I think you could have cut that whole opening segment off. Sorry, you're right. Here's the actual report that is fun. Hi Martha! The FBI says plan A was for the men to join ISIS maybe hijack a plane to Syria? Plan B- Hijacking a plane to Syria?! How do you do that!? Just walk up and say hey! Hey, Duder! This is nuts. He was to launch terror attacks in the US, to bomb Coney Island and possibly kill FBI agents. The criminal complaint says the youngest suspect 19 year old Akur Saitametov from Kazakhstan said quote we will go purchase one handgun then go and shoot one police officer boom. Then take his gun bullets and bulletproof vest then we will go to the FBI headquarters and kill the FBI people. The two other suspects from Uzbekistan had other plans 24-year-old

34:16 Durisal, Jeroboav wrote on an Uzbek website quote is it possible to commit ourselves you know I would just like to see one blink to the Uzbek website that's all. It's not a huge journalistic feat that i'm asking for please show me the Uzbek website What is this, Uzbek WordPress? Or what-what is... Uzbeck.wordpress.com Yeah! What exactly is your Uzbek website?! This is so crap! Jeroboav wrote on an Uzbek website quote Is it possible to commit ourselves as dedicated martyrs anyway while here? Yeah! What I'm saying is to shoot Obama and then get shot ourselves will it do? Yep!

34:58 Trump was gunning for Obama to avenge the US airstrikes against ISIS. The FBI had the suspects under surveillance for months, but New York Police Commissioner William Bratton says this was real. It's real! Oh you should have told me it was real. Yeah it's real sorry. By the way I just wanted do us little side note here... This Martha McCallum who took over from Megyn Kelly for a couple weeks is an idiot. And I have a small clip, very small this is the brain dead Martha with Dana Perino the cute little ex-wife Um, yeah. She spoke to her with Dana Perino and I just have a small clip and tell me what's wrong with this clip when I say we'll meet behind closed doors. Their complaint about that is ridiculous because they were late in the game and that was not their initial response.

35:47 Netanyahu didn't set the deadline of the Iran talks to be right by his election. We did that! And so when Rice and Kerry are actively campaigning against Netanyahu in America, they're the ones who are making this more political than he is. Tina thank you very much. Really odd situation we're gonna see how it plays out good to see you. Thank You. Thanks Tina. So coming up tonight also just... She calls her Tina? Tina?! Why does she call her Tina? Thanks Tina for coming in She makes a perino Tina, perina Dana. Oh okay wow that Tina. Well it happens Pete. It does happen but come on it shouldn't happen I gotta wrap this up with them so there were some hearings and again bringing out retired dudes onto Capitol Hill

36:38 General John Allen retired. Oh that guy! And this guy, it's so... That was the guy who was having the affair with the girl who was having an affair with the other, with Petraeus' girlfriend? No questions about that unfortunately But you get, who is this? I forget who was asking the question. John Allen, he was kicked out because of that. Oh but now he's like some expert witness when they need to just have answers pre-planned. When I'm an expert witness, they try to demean me as much as they can on the other side... Oh no! This is all thank you for your service and everything. It's kind of interesting. He gets caught in his own words

37:22 So we're gonna start off by, of course we know everything. Yeah, we're tracking them and we know everything but what do you really maybe don't know? In your testimony, you say that ISIS has lost half its Iraq-based leadership How do we know that? Good question I'm sorry, say again your question. Oh shit! What did you... Wait a minute this wasn't what we rehearsed? You said that ISIS has lost half of its Iraq-based leadership how do we know that? Do we have pretty good intelligence for that standpoint? We actually do have pretty good intelligence on it. But its retired Wait a minute, this guy's not in the CIA or anything? But what he says if you listen... The question is do we have pretty good intelligence. He says yes we actually do have pretty good intelligence What is that?! I want outstanding intelligence! I don't want pretty good but he's just repeating the question because he doesn't know and then then he goes on to not know really how pretty good it the intelligence is

38:20 I'm sorry, say again your question sir. You said ISIS has lost half of its Iraq based leadership how do we know that? Do we have pretty good intelligence for that standpoint? We actually do have pretty good intelligence on this matter and in the process of tracking the elements within a senior echelons of... Within the process of tracking the senior elements within the echelons of the speak English man! ISIL's leadership We have been tracking and systematically as we're able to find them dealing with them.

38:58 He doesn't know any... They just bring these guys up and they say anything. Yes! Hey, what do you want to... hey Alan we got all expensive... We can put you in a hotel fly-in first class. Oh, it has to be coached sorry you have to upgrade yourself yeah come on out and that will have dinner And we'll get your meeting with some senior guy so he can hang out So I guess your meeting with some of the consultants at work Well who does he work for right now? Well let's find out You can keep playing and i'll look him up Okay We're able to find them dealing with them You also said that in the last six months we have amply demonstrated that ISIL is a little more than a criminal gang and death cult, which now finds itself under increasing pressure sending naive and gullible recruits to die by the hundreds. What's your evaluation of the accretion versus degradation ratio? I mean how many people are coming into the battle actually being drawn... His smoke coming out of his ears because he was just asked what is the accretion verus

39:53 That was a good sentence by the way. Who's this maniac asking these questions? By the hundreds, what's your evaluation of the accretion versus degradation? The accretion versus the degradation... I guess he wants to know if we're saving or creating jihadis. After retiring He on this, on this last just September. Let me guess. Let me guess. Is it one of the Homeland Security consultancy groups? It's similar United States appointed General Allen as special presidential envoy global coalition to counter ISIL. So he should know is that we well yeah you should book I so he should know if there was accretion versus degradation of recruits to ISIL

40:35 Which is a very, so is the line trending up or down? I think that's the question. That's the question let's see if he knows. Why do you ask just like that? Sounds better when you use a word like accretion. Accretion is sexy it's a Wall Street word. How many people are coming into battle actually being drawn and recruited by what they see in ISIS versus people who really are dying Well, I think that's a difficult number to... Wait a minute. You said you were tracking everybody! Is it positive or negative? I'm struggling here. What are you asking me joining the fight versus what we're able to show for the meeting that's right Did you not read your briefing? You said that, you know, I know all this stuff just ask away It says there's nothing I can I can wing it and then this comes up joining the fight versus what were able to say two things The numbers are up The numbers are Okay All right

41:36 John the numbers are up Numbers are what does that mean a creation decrease money? Yeah, and the numbers are up because we're now tracking the numbers in ways. We haven't before What well that doesn't meet make sense so you just try to do more number says the numbers are up because now we're actually counting I think the numbers are also Because of the so-called color fate And that has created the kind of some respects magnetism for those elements that want to be part of this They want to support this emergence within their own sense of their faith. Hey, General Allen you're talking shit!

42:17 This guy has given, this guy got this job. It's apparently just part of the drinking club he doesn't know anything and they drag him out and I'm sure he gets chewed out for this we dragged you out for this one time You don't do anything We pay a good amount of money you can't even perform because you can wing it Wait until you hear this one So this is another obvious question How do we defeat ISIS? ISIL IS how do we defeat it These are the things he should have ready-made answers for but you actually see it You have to it would be nice if you can see the video. He makes this face like really dude, you're asking me this It's really funny to watch his face Why are you doing this to me man? It relies on territorial check it out Gains and or holding on territory is that part of defeat is deny them all territory absolutely destroy that Caliphate no longer exists So we were talking about

43:15 Pretty much decimation correct. That's what secretary Kerry that was the word he used decimate You know a few I love the word decimate because the true definition of the word is to kill every one guy for every ten Yeah, so decimating there would be killing it 10th of a 10% gonna help and for some reason this is now Accepted as decimate means in people's minds that you're bringing down to ten percent white about to be but it's not yeah It is truly every 10 guys. It's just a definition, one out of ten you got to think that they mean doing this on purpose? Yeah we're going to decimate him which is not a lie will kill 10%. I think that they're doing it on purpose John and that's what I would do decimate good word. Good word. Nobody understands. Like after Nazi Germany few people scattered maybe around the world but pretty well decimation That's not exactly what I'm hearing out of view

44:10 Well, we can apply whatever term you'd like to. Decimation is clearly one of the terms that we might apply to it We want them to have no operational capability in the end Check it out That means break them up into small organizations Here comes... ...that don't have the capacity as it begins to attempt a mass To be a threat Define a small organization Define small organization the guy looks at him like really really you dick Why why are you pushing me through this ringer come on? You know I'm here to just make it all just come on man. Don't ask these questions No, again I'm just trying to get some sense of what we mean by defeat. It sounds great you know denying operational capabilities are we talking about taking 30 thousand down to 500? Are we taking thirty thousand down to ten thousand broken up into 10 different groups? It will take time it will take time that will ultimately be realized in a number of ways it'll be by breaking up the organization through kinetic and military surface terrestrial means

45:09 It'll take time to reduce the message and the attractiveness that gives it the capacity to regenerate its forces. It will take time ultimately, to deny it access to the international financial system that gives us the capabilities of restoring itself or generating... Why would that take time? I don't know! This is some ass enemy we're up against huh?! You can't even find their bank accounts. All of those things together, if we deny them that access... ...if we can defeat their messaging in the information sphere and break them up into small groups that can't mass to be operationally significant then that's defeat Wow! Well good luck with that That is really quite unbelievable. That is the most meaningless answer I've ever heard Because he has no absolutely no answers It's just a big show

45:56 A big farcical show. I have to show you this one image, was it Thursday? Maybe it was last Thursday that we had the new ISIS video with the multiple cages of all these different people who want to be burned alive and this is where the guy with a mic cube. This is the new ISIS with the mic flag and But there was, I got a tweet from someone and there's a screenshot which you have to see. Go to this URL itm.im slash ISIS cage i-s-i-s c-a-g-e And look at the screenshot here

46:45 of the guy with the fly, with the mic cube and he's talking... Domain blacklisted. This domain has been blacklisted! How can that be? That must be blacklisted on your... The short URL has been deleted from our record Who is saying this? What's... No agenda It just worked for me Well it didn't work for me I got a big no agenda logo And it says you do no agenda... I think YOU have been blacklisted You've been blacklisted Well then you blacklisted me. I didn't blacklist you, and I don't control this domain! Okay go to isiscage.noagendanotes.com Damn it... okay are you there? Not yet You have to remember that when i type in stuff I have to do with one finger at a time because its way behind the microphone and all the gear and I have to reach out Alright im sorry To type And here you will see a screenshot What do you see in this screen shot

47:51 Did you get it? Yeah, I got the screenshot. There's a... A cage- oh that is unbelievable! Describe what you see Okay so there's a guy in a cage and there's a guy with the microphone and his little thing around it It says SM58 probably a clone And then just over his head the lock thats holding the cage to keep the door from opening he has the key in it This is I mean come on and you know what heads will roll. This is the thing that they're under underestimating

48:32 Because eventually, there's no way you can really fool everybody in internet world. You're going to make mistakes and they're going to be picked up it just is going to happen. And this is... Oh the smallest of small errors will be picked up Yeah and this has gotta be one my favorites I really do enjoy the little key hanging out there It's stupid So stupid Okay so this has been spun into the six week cycle Well, there's still an opportunity over the next seven days for something bigger to happen. But I get this sense that Kony is something of a slouch and I don't think he knows how to set up these like Mueller and these other guys have had a clue you know they had a black ops thing going on it was probably... A good point i think he probably

49:25 He thinks this is a big deal. He thinks it's good one, yeah he has no idea. Oh god, oh god this will be good! He hasn't studied all the previous bull crap six-week cycle things that have been set up. Nonsense, yeah like the guy in the... My favorite is the cop burnt to death in Los Angeles Hills and then they bring out all his weaponry that it's just spotless. Pristine. It was never even a fire how could he be there? Well this I think coincides nicely with what happened with John Kerry John Kerry made it was testifying before Congress and said that, eh, it's not a big deal what's going on here in the world. And Fox again who seems to be the

50:10 the most bloodthirsty network. Here is the one-two punch here, play the clip Fox goes nuts over Kerry's comments. Okie dokie... ...beach in Libya yet today Secretary of State John Kerry said this truth is that notwithstanding the threat of ISIL now withstanding people being beheaded publicly and burned publicly and the atrocities they are perpetrating And it is a serious, serious challenge to us. Notwithstanding that there is actually less threat and less probability of people dying in some sort of violent conflict today than at any time in human history." Really? Mark Thiessen joins us he's former chief speechwriter for President George W Bush and a Fox News contributor How can John Kerry say that Mark

51:12 What on earth is he talking about? I mean, that is just absurd. Put aside all the things that you showed on your air. 200 thousand people have died in Syria while this administration stood on the sidelines and did nothing He says it's less likely than ever that someone will get killed in a conflict Tell that to families of Americans who were beheaded by ISIS How many families of Americans were beheaded by ISIS? Tons. One, two... We don't even know! 300 million people in this country how many so so carrying steps in it by saying you know which is what we say on our show more or less

51:51 You know, uh... This is the safest time you've ever lived. Bull crap! We're safe to quit being so panicky and crazy It was very strange it was the end of because I watched the it was three hours this guy and it could have been an hour and 45 minutes but it's the way he talks it's the way that he talks it's just he's so ultimately annoying Well, he says this at the end. And so now Fox in particular... I mean you just have to wonder about these and so the guy that i always thought was at least kind of an intellectual about the whole thing Charles Krauthammer

52:28 gets into a beef, he's on the Brett Baer show and he is all over this. They do a segment on it and he says the following... This idea that we are not in the middle of a world war It's not the battle of Verdun, its not D-Day Is somewhat irrelevant The real issue is what's happening to American influence what's happening to American interests and what is happening to American allies and adversaries. The other guys are on the march, you see it in Iran, you see it across the Shiite crescent, you see what happened in Yemen, the panicked evacuation of a US embassy And they are pretending that our threats are lower. Their own heads of intelligence have spoken to Congress and said that the hair stands on the back of their heads as a result of the threats that they are seeing, and it is the highest since 9-11. Boo! The hair on the back of their neck is standing up because they look at the budget and say oh my god... We need more money!

53:28 I did like Kerry asking for more propaganda money. Did you see this part? No, you have a clip? Russia today can be heard in English. Do we have an equivalent that can be heard in Russian? Yeah! No, no we don't. Voice of America! It's...I don't think it's in Russian. No, I don't think there is any Russian language. And Liberty Free Europe, Liberty Radio. That's pretty expensive proposition They're spending huge amounts of money with speaking languages that other people understand and putting out information that other people understand in other countries. Not only is it in Russian, but I have a webpage for it. Oh okay! Well then he's full of crap... But he was asking money

54:20 uh... for to increase the propaganda uh... broadcasts are money constantly these people this is for the this is a bill that was put in for the broadcast board of governors this is to increase i think we talked about this couple months ago this is to increase the other propaganda budget it's way up there uh... must got turned off voice of american april last year uh... there you go as what he's been here's our tea refuting this uh... It's kind of funny. They put numbers to their operation and to the broadcast board of governors about RT spending a lot of money Let's just look at the facts, and those are completely open figures our T's budget for 2015 it's not a secret stands that 220 million dollars what I didn't know that we can use that kinda shit yeah

55:05 $220 million, not a secret. The budget of the BBG for the very same year stands at 721 million dollars. That's the broadcast board of governors so they got to have they got a nice little chunk of change there yeah we should just go do that now here let me finish my little bit here because it's just it's amusing I just want as a punchline I just want hammers on and on is pounding the drum war war we're gonna all die is horrible the world has never been worse So, they have this...they have George Will on who is the other conservative writer that's been around forever. But you don't see him anymore because he has been sidelined because he is kind of the voice of reason at least now. He says yeah this bull crap so he comes back, he's in his panel after there's another guy which is very similar to Tub Thumper but

55:55 will is the voice of reason. He's already said once that he thinks this is, what Kerry said is probably true it was a safe world we're in compared to where we used to be so he comes in with the follow up to Krauthammer and then they close the second before they can finally close it Krauthammer jumps in for last gasp little punch still by whatever metric you want to pick it does seem to me that the danger of human being on this planet that dying from organized military force and violence is exceptionally low today. So you're buying the Kerry stat? By and large, he's right between as Charles said everything is fine and we are in eminent peril there is a middle ground and that's where we are. Next up, go ahead. Wait until Iran has the bomb, that calculation will change radically

56:45 Wait until they've had the bomb man. Oh, let's ask Miss USA about that All right judge number one Manny Pacquiao If you were given 30 seconds to deliver a message to a global terrorist What would you say? We need to kill them. We need to bomb them. Yeah! Amen, fist bump. Perfect. Nice one. That's a good one.

57:32 Man, here's Lindsey Graham. He has a different opinion I agree with the Texas judge who said that the executive orders were illegal? I hope Republicans will come together and back the court case file a friend of the court brief with the court This is of course this is all going to end but The funding bill was passed by Congress and they slipped in a whole bunch of stuff to stop the so-called amnesty, whatever. Politics as usual. Lindsey Graham not on board with that he said no no we have to fund DHS because were going to be killed people. And fund DHS I'm willing and ready to pass a DHS funding bill and let this play out in court

58:14 The worst possible outcome for this nation is to defund the Department of Homeland Security given the multiple threats we faced our homeland and I will not be part of that. Okay, you won't be but can you get it through the house? Time will tell. I hope my House colleagues will understand that our best bet is to challenge this in court, that if we don't fund the Department of Homeland Security we'll get blamed as a party and to anyone who's watching the world as it is... I've never seen more terrorist organizations with more safe haven or more money with more capability to strike the homeland than I do today and that's a direct result of a failed foreign policy by President Obama.

59:10 Yeah, we didn't use that. It was never used? No. Homeland like it's... Oh the homeland! It's a Nazi thing. Yeah it's very fascist sounding thing. Yeah yeah of course. The fatherland I was watching-I put in the show notes because it's about an hour. It's a Disney produced propaganda movie, animation really about the Nazis and how the Nazis came to be and it's really although it doesn't have subtitles there is a lot of German in it. The German is Hochdeutsch very understandable if you speak a little bit of German actually I turned on the YouTube

59:48 closed caption. That was pretty hilarious, it finds English words for... I didn't know that's how it worked but it finds English words for the German that's being spoken on screen very strange But they have all of this like first Hans goes to kindergarten which is exactly like in America. I've seen this. Where he learns! Yeah and then there's a... There isn't. Heil Hitler. There's an overdubbed version of it around. That is probably funny Or is it a serious overdub version? No, it's not. It's not funny one that they put out one that has in English. All right. Well I think we should there are couple of the big topics some things happening today including some packet equality votes and we'll get to that after I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for Caliphate Dvorak

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1:23:52 Anyway, so it's a bit of a stick in the mud but I felt that anecdote was worth reading. So today is apparently there's going to be a vote the FCC the Federal Communications Commission will be voting on the new proposal for rules for net neutrality it appears to be exactly what the president's original plan was. I guess the way it split up is we have three Democrats, two Republicans and... I thought it was 3-3? I don't know! I thought it was three and 2. Like, I could be wrong. I though that there were only five commissioners. Well then its' two and a guy in the middle. So that would be three and two you're right. And of course the only thing that we've been looking at really

1:24:45 the term lawful content and lawful network traffic. These are the things that no one talks about or can...well, actually someone I think was on Twitter did someone post a maybe you did a link to your this is from last year, I believe? May! And I wrote one another year earlier every time I write when I get less of it. You're against net neutrality scum Yeah, so I'm... Let me just summarize one of the things in that article which will have linked in the show notes. It's in the show notes, of course.

1:25:26 In fact, I've noticed this with two different things. One was advertising and it started with advertising when the internet first showed up people every time any advertising was condemned oh can't have advertising on the internet this is going to ruin it which you did do you know that when I in the early days we're talking a 90 89-90 and he had the use net groups Oh, and I would go in there. At the time... did it have adamantmtv?com? I think it had mtv.com just as email address and I would post something to a user group and people be like Go away commercial whore! You're gonna ruin the internet! Go away MTV! Yeah just for posting Just for posting And then the next thing that came along was as the net grew

1:26:08 saw a lot of online ticketing airlines. Hey, that's kind of easy. Let's do that anyway There was a bunch of complaining about all this internet is fantastic Don't let the government get involved right don't let the government get involved they'll ruin it don't let the government get involved And then all of a sudden this hysteria about net neutrality by all these boneheads and knee jerks. Well, it's not boneheads these are people with very very specific agendas and this four million people who commented is all astroturf I think i can probably count 20 different lobbying groups that were involved in this on all sides of the equation

1:26:52 And of course, everybody has a stake for their own personal win. But no one is talking about the obvious problems with this which is now the regulation... We are! Well yeah we are the only ones to... I think there's a few others. I don't think so I really don't. I really don't think there's anybody else... Howard Baetjer Well, I don't know of any others but I have to assume that there has been someone with a brain. And I know Andrew Orlowski at The Register is adamantly against this whole thing just like us. Stephen Ruckman But EFF is all in on it and apparently Google came into the last minute with some tweaks and some changes. Of course Google has one of the biggest lobbying budgets in Washington at the moment

1:27:40 Now, I believe that this is going to there will be probably a yes vote and it will immediately go into court. And it's going to stick around all the way through the elections. The way this is set up, it almost cannot past muster because of the EPA lawsuit where you just cannot change a law to make different regulations. This has already been to the Supreme Court, you cannot do that and this was the EPA wanting to regulate greenhouse gases so just by saying we're going to jigger Title II... Jigger which is probably not a politically correct word is it?

1:28:18 Jiggers used I don't know. I'm worried about all these jigger Jigger it around It will go in it's nothing will come of it But the oh the conversation will go on and on and on and on and here's an example Of one of these groups the Ford Foundation Now, the Ford Foundation is huge Isn't this very large and somewhat corrupt? Okay And what do you very large? What do you base this corruptness on? the guys who run it.

1:29:07 for wanting this type of legislation. Here he is speaking to the converted on this issue. And just last week, I think we all collectively in this room were thrilled when the chairman of the FCC announced in his words the strongest open internet protections ever proposed And I love it how everyone's just yeah, so effeminate. That is what he is His proposal reflects the input of more than 4 million Americans Up and out in defense of a free open internet free

1:29:53 Is it going to be free, John? Is it going to be a zero-cost basis or does he mean... It's FREE! As long as it's lawful content. Free and open, as long as it's lawful network traffic. The prices are also going to go down... This is like what they did with the cable industry because the idea was to get the prices down and they passed all this legislation. The next thing you know now it's 200 bucks a month, you know, to have a cable. Yeah. And your internet prices are gonna go up! Oh yeah Oh, for sure. Yes! Open Internet. Open free. This decision I believe is a direct consequence of the tireless efforts of many of you in this room the organizations you represent to persuade and to challenge to evangelize and to inform the American people that we need to have the web we want and the web we need

1:30:49 Alright, so the web is not what this is all about. That's fine I want people to think about that as the web that's fine because the network itself you really can't enforce everything that you want The network is uncontrollable but the messaging is it's the web its Twitter It's Facebook Its Netflix This is all that really counts This is all that you need and please do not ask for any more... Boy did we fail John It's EFF is another example. We were all for this great equalize, this great internet that was gonna be fantastic. This wasn't expected. You know I had some hope. I had some distant hope and now the CEO... All you have to do is look at the suckers who are all in on this from the get-go and how adamant they wouldn't argue the points

1:31:37 With any logic, they were all glassy-eyed. It's fair! It has to be fair. They're spewing the same talking points that were fed to them from who knows who? You're probably right as a bunch of pressure. This was an AstroTurf thing that worked out like a champ. There are high fives going on somewhere. Probably at Comcast. The Tumblr CEO David Karp made a huge mistake by going on television. That was his mistake number one, this guy should not be allowed to speak about any policy I don't know why he agreed or who thought it was a good idea for him to go on CNBC when you're a CEO and He's an important CEO because of the acquisition by Yahoo! And the price that was paid but if you just type in any expletive

1:32:24 Into a search engine and then space tumblr. This is not going to be deemed legal content No, they're doing tumblr is it's just poor no put you can do that anything Yeah, let's go put any perversion you can think of okay space Tom and you will have site after Tumbler site yeah showing graphic pictures of the perversion To the point where you'll animated animated gifs What animated gifs there be thousands of yes, this is a tip from no agenda for all your porn needs type in porn need space poor tumblr so he goes on and He he is all-in on the talking points But he has no way to back it up. And this is the but this is a great fail from this guy I just thought it was funny that

1:33:15 It goes on forever. Yeah, David Karp the CEO of Tumblr. I think the way that we see the most innovation is by sort of separating the layers of the stack so making sure that... John! We need to separate the layers of the stack such a Silicon Valley douche What does that mean? Well he's gonna explain it The Layers Of The Stack stack don't you understand the stuff I think the way that we see the most innovations by Sort of separating the layers of the stack so making sure that there's a competitive market for carriers When they're competing to deliver us the fastest best internet that we can get access access to with modern technology. And then on top of that, you have a free open marketplace of services that can count on a neutral internet to build their profits. Their point though is if you touch someone like AT&T or Randall Stephenson he will say right now they have more capital expenditures than any company in America they have invested heavily to build their network and that if you turn it into a utility it will not be profitable to continue investing like that and as a result things will slow down It's just no true its been disproven

1:34:16 Okay, ask him how's it been disproven? Yes. Good yes not she doesn't but What's the guys name Joe Kernan? Just bag it up. Yeah, Joe Kernan jumps in and says hold on a second what are you talking about and that is where it gets funny. And as a result things will slow down. It's just not true its been disproven by the tech end of it too there's a tremendous amount of artificial throttling going on right now they have Artificial throttling! Tremendous! Just everywhere bandwidth to the limit. He asked him how's it been disproven and he just steamrolled by but here comes Kernan. For this in there if look if we could move further and breaking down the near monopoly situation that we have right now, we would hopefully see even more competition You have a monopoly because its really expensive to build the pipes so you haven't had multiple people who will build pipes to the door I confess not my area of expertise But in general

1:35:18 Hold on. Get better! The industry has had kind of a light touch in terms of the government, it had like touch in terms of regulation would you say that that's been beneficial in the past? That there's been a light touch or... In general do you think heavy-handed government regulation is a good thing or bad thing for an industry I think a bright line rule that spells out these sort of pound cakes Oh he's using the bright line rule this guy is prepped and good to go but he's failing! ...principles we believe in I think the Bill of Rights is a good thing. Even without getting into the weeds, spelling out something like the First Amendment that just says this is a truth that we believe in... Let me ask you question? I don't see how that's an answer at all comparing this to the bill of rights but... This bad behavior under the current law

1:36:05 isn't illegal unless we're treating the IFP as a Title II carrier. If Randall Stephenson has said point-blank, I'm not going to build out certain things that i was going to build out...I'm gonna finish this stuff for DirecTV but then I'm going to Mexico if he said how is that been disproven How can you tell him he's been disproven that he is actually not going to do it? I mean, that's just the word you use. It has just been disproved that they won't build it out. The CEO of AT&T came on this network and elsewhere and said... Just talk over him! ...I'm not gonna invest in that money, I will say. Was there a huge number of consumers who are willing to live who are already paying out the nose for access to the internet? But how has it been disproven that he's not going to actually pull in on his build-out of more infrastructure. The consumers are demanding faster Internet

1:36:53 So it's been this so he's This guy should go on twit. He's an expert is going to spend money building it out, and they just lying okay They are they have been right well. You say no you're not gonna add any additional let me ask you incremental missus his Now this this is the kind of Thinking that goes on in Silicon Valley oh yeah, it's pathetic But somehow this rally... And I love the way he's throwing these short-term cliches and talking words like bright line, and these sorts of things. That's in Obama's actual proposal, the word bright line. Well he picked it up from probably Schmidt. Yeah

1:37:35 But these kinds of, this guy is not saying anything. He's a pathetic classic... By the way he's probably a billionaire out there for people. I know he is, I think. Oh yeah, I think he did very well on the Yahoo acquisition. Sure sure. I don't even know why he was involved in the discussion. It's because these guys... Just go by a palace in Italy and take some girls and move there! It's, everybody thinks they're Mark Cuban. That's what it is. Yes the more cubanism and Mark Cuban actually gets kind of he's the only guy speaking some sense although he's also a little... Yeah Cuba is dead setting and he realized that what's going on. Cuba is one of the more savvy of the tech guys that ever made a lot of money yeah on vapor

1:38:19 Yeah, he was the best. He really was! I got a URL. He sold broadcast dot com for $1 billion dollars. Three. Was it three billion dollars? Yeah and it was nothing there right just some videos. Yeah. He had essentially sold a domain name for 3 billion dollars to Yahoo again. Genius genius you're right about this tumblr thing This thing is going away. There is no way the level of pornography, pornographic... I, you know just... Well your point in yours is pornographic material that's accessible by everybody. Any little kid is going to remain on the internet they're gonna have to shut this thing down and there's not a blog on it that's not porn that's worth if your smart blogger you'd be using wordpress dot com and having some power this is just set up This is designed for porn Yeah Lots of pictures and animated gifs

1:39:23 And this guy's a douchebag. Yeah, the point being that I'm pretty sure we'll get this vote, everyone will be real happy. Then of course it'll be all Republicans don't want net neutrality. It's so tiring! I am getting so tired of this game. It cannot pass legal muster what they want to do. So if it's all about something that just is going to be another talking point for the elections in 2016...it's just annoying

1:40:00 Waste of time okay, so big wait Bob brought you this is gonna really get ya broadcast calm was sold to Yahoo in April 1999 don't hurt for 5.7 billion Wow what happens if you go there now broadcast comm what's their? It probably has under construction That would be cool let's see what do we have oh Broadcast.com, then it goes to Yahoo! Wow. And it just takes you to Yahoo! It just takes you to Yahoo! Hey money well spent, Yahoo! As a five billion dollar forwarder good work redirect man how about that did they write that off? How does that work

1:40:46 That's your legacy. No, of course that's the worst managed company in the history of... Mark Cuban is that someday when they finally go under people are going to look back at them and go what were they thinking? Wow! Hey Mark Cuban there's your legacy you're a redirect 301 They say we should redirect it then to the Dallas Mavericks Man that is something huh? That is something Yeah I think it's still the classic So we'll see what happens. But my money is on court case, it will not happen, it will not be implemented and it will become just another big talking point and the Republicans are evil or they don't want net neutrality... Edwin also is going to have people who are going to come to their senses because these

1:41:40 schemes only stay afloat for so long. And then it's gonna go like, here is what I can put this in the book... Okay all right let's do this, I like this one. It's going to come out and then there are gonna be re-discussions about because 333 pages people are gonna start going through this and they're all of a sudden oh! This is not good, this is not good, this is not good and end result is going to be well Net neutrality is great, but this is not what we wanted. This is not net neutrality. This is not what we wanted. It's not what we wanted And then they're gonna go, we've net neutrality and then it's gonna die. The whole thing is gonna die and you're probably right the court case should throw it out or keep in court forever because they've actually incorporated mobile data and the woman from the mobile data operation who I think was an ex-FCC person she said, if you do that, you're going to be in court for the rest of your life. Of course, of course! And they added that... We had that clip on this show Was that what was added?

1:42:41 That's probably what it was, that's probably what Google added. It's just a farce! I'm so sick and tired of it... There is nothing that is legitimate reporting anymore! Almost nothing! Well on that note So I've got this, I link to this. I subscribe to a couple of operations that have newsletters and this is a list of the media and journalism awards that come out every couple months. And there's a couple deadlines. There's a Society for Professional Journalists are gonna just for articles and stuff. Then we have The Ansel Payne Awards for Ethics in Journalism. Then there's another award for ethics in journalism. My comment was

1:43:26 How do you get an award? Is it so rare that there's ethics in journalism, that there is only one guy who actually has an award for it. There's one guy per year who wins because he had some ethics! The award honors journalists who inspire public trust and demonstrate exceptional journalistic ethics behavior. So the guy who is a, I don't know you have ethics or you don't have ethics, exceptional ethics is like...I don't know what that even means it's just bullcrap but to give an award out for journalism ethics, to me tells you all you need to know about journalism in today's world. In fact it has probably been that way more or less before but now with the internet it makes it more obvious that we're being

1:44:14 toyed with and again I think a lot of it does have to do with your is advertising. Advertising causes the problems yes you have you won't have ethical issues with shows that are like ours because we don't have any, were directly funded by the listener and producer So we don't have, we don't say oh well we gotta make sure that we don't say anything bad about Harry's razors. Don't say anything bad about you know this crazy security like all the right wing talk shows plug, it's that one security system where they get your name and they follow it and make sure you don't have identity theft. I can't remember but it was one of these companies and this is bogus! This isn't gonna work? Yeah okay we did check a couple things...

1:45:06 No, nonsense. Yeah well... But you can't never hear anybody say anything like oh no no no they're gonna... Can't say anything bad about them. Can't say anything bad about Disney if your NBC. You can't see anything bad about General Electric if your CBS. Although it seems that the network wars are just on a tear of who's lied more about their reporting on military I think everybody is exaggerating. They were set off by those kids that got the measles in Disneyland and this is just worse than until somebody apologizes, yeah And it doesn't help that we have government officials running some of these networks or ex-government officials or people married to government officials so the only guests they ever have on to tell the public what's going on are government officials or ex-government officials or spies Yes Or sources

1:46:02 It's just sources. Which are spies and government officials, so I guess there is an award for ethics in journalism? Oh let me see oh this year's award will not be given that's what i'm gonna say expect that next okay um So let's talk about Kleiner Perkins talking about ethics. Oh, okay this is good night Kleiner Perkins I know intimately or knew them in a version intimately when they funded Pod show and so I know the players here yeah but I know

1:46:42 Bill Dorr, and this woman who was suing them for sexual harassment. Did you run into her? Oh yeah several times What did you think of her? Well I didn't think very highly of a lot of these so-called experts I remember there was, what was her name? Trey. I'm going to think her name was... And do you remember the Skype guys had like some crazy video play? What's that thing called?

1:47:19 All right. It was a full screen channel. What was that Skype video? Skype video, we have to now we have to stop what was that thing called? It's like juiced or something. That's some crazy Swedish idea for a name. Was it Juiced? It was something with J O O S T or something like that. Oh, Juiced! You're right, Juiced. Yes you nailed it good job yeah so And then, you know we sit in meetings like... Oh you guys really should look at Juice. They're on the cutting edge this is where it's going this is the future Oh, I remember when they were talking to you guys about that. Yeah it's funny yeah that's what you get that is Silicon Valley in a nutshell It's groupthink and the other thing you get at Collinear Perkins The best example was there were all in All In with the uh... that Segway So they're all in because he's going to change the world and the segway He's going to change the way cities are built Genius And he's gonna come around the office and say hi Wait didn't he Didn't the guy who created

1:48:24 The Segway die falling off a cliff with the Segway? No, no. That was the CEO of the company that finally started manufacturing it. Good enough! The CEO fell off a cliff driving one. Anyway so they had in the offices of Kleiner Perkins every cubicle... It's a hot babe! Every glassed-in office, a little glassed in offices and they're seeing this kind of standard venture capital setup. They had every single partner had a Segway in the corner charging. Yeah exactly and then they all had the fantastic electric car which they then got $500 million from the government for which caught on fire all the time... The Fisker!

1:49:09 Yeah, the flaming Fisker. Good work! So these guys haven't hit a home run forever and then when it looks like they hit which a lot of people don't realize that all we did so well were investors... They get it there's like Google they had nothing to do with Google until it got to the point where they're gonna go public Then these guys insist on getting a piece of it Do you know? They actually weren't in the Google deal and then they had this midnight I've heard this story But they had a midnight deal and said, we need to be in this deal. We need Google. And there was like somehow they got $1 billion worth of stock overnight because they excluded it was do you know the whole story? How that... No I don't know the whole story but what you said is pretty much what happened. It

1:49:55 It was a prestige thing. You have a couple of these venture capital firms that they always brag about how they lead the way because the big money killers for Kleiner Perkins were mostly like Genentech, this is years ago. Genentech and some of these genetic engineering operations and then they got Netscape. That was a big one. Then they became known as the geniuses of high tech They had to get in the Google thing because it looked bad. The optics were no good, the optic sucked if they were not in the Google deal. And I think it was Ram Shriram from Sherpalo Ventures who brokered the deal and just coming back to me and I think it was with Sequoia guys. Oh yeah. There was some fight there was some rift between... anyway it's all bullshit

1:50:50 Although they get very rich. The Kleiner Perkins went all green and then they really... Oh, that's right! They had Green Tech. All green? Yeah. And they lost a billion on it. They lost a lot of money. A lot. Abe in the juice thing that was... You know the guy Randy Komizar is like their genius boy genius there look him up he was with... Actually I know Randy. Tevo He's the Tebow guy. And he wrote a book like The Monk and the Man, or... And every new company, every founder of the company would have to read Randy's book! Hey I wrote this book! Let me find his book. Anyway, you'd be questioning, y'know? You had to read his book otherwise, y'know, Randy Combs- The Monk and the Riddle there ya go. The Monk and the Riddle everybody. Had to read that book

1:51:45 So let's play getting a life while making it so this is woman that Adam met what's her name? I can't make sure her name we mentioned the report at some point She is suing them because she made of fuss and in California It's very rigid about what you can can I cannot do in a big company if your Ellen Powell Ellen. She was senior she was she was senior She was got her she moved up the ladders and she was a borderline partner. She's gonna be made part And then they passed over because she was always fussing around complaining but just complaining about me she was left out of meetings, and they wouldn't invite her to parties and

1:52:23 All this sort of thing, which and then some guy tried to hit on her. And he said there was some I guess it was an Indian that was working there not the big shot Indian that quit but this other guy who I guess was something of a douchey guy. Yeah. And you know he's always feeling or up or doing stuff in trying go in a room, and he did this with all the women apparently. But let's play just some of the reports—some of them it's in court now should be entertaining. Let's play part one. Yes! It's very intense. This is a hugely historic case. Clannar Perkins is a really respected venture capital firm here and Ellen Powell was a really respected entrepreneur now she's the CEO of Reddit one of the largest websites on the Internet

1:53:03 And she is alleging that she was passed up for promotions and ultimately fired from Kleiner Perkins based on her gender, and on her complaints about gender discrimination while she was there. So the stakes are high if she wins—it's a very big deal Yeah, so Kleiner Perkins is time for a downfall. You know it's time for them to take the fall and they're going to be branded as misogynistic A-holes which quite honestly they are. Yeah! In my experience I'm just remembering something. So Kleiner Perkins always had smoking hot receptionists

1:53:47 They had some beautiful women in the front of the receptionist and I forget the, the, it was a young woman. Forget her name. Um, but you know what? We'd often be waiting. We have to go there every week and have, you always have to wait at the meetings like just Oh, it was a board meeting show how we're doing here. Showed the damn charts against spending your money well huh And I would always hang out talking to her. She was kind of cool, she was a snowboarder or whatever but it's just good-looking fun interesting good jokes and always be hanging out there anyway and then you know Kleiner Perkins had these Christmas parties and stuff and i got a call from Ray Lane one morning say uh hey Ray what's going on well um there's a complaint for sexual harassment

1:54:35 Oh, really? And it was this receptionist. And she had this whole list of people who had propositioned her and it was clear that what became apparent is that she had a history of doing this at companies and she pretty much gone to Kleiner Perkins and saw people out. At one point, she asked me, hey you want to go get high? I'm like no man, I got a meeting here...no And, but that came back in some complaints that I wanted to smoke illegal drugs with her. And this was Ray Lane senior partner was reading this to me over the phone and say, hey, this is insane right? What's going on with this so they were targeted and anyway they had like a guess

1:55:20 like as a detective, because I saw all this guy showed up before this complaint came in. This guy showed up and he was like a co-receptionist? It was very strange. So they had brought him in as the people are starting to suspect something and he was there... No one's going to notice that! And he was there to trap her. She apparently had done this to other companies Yeah, it's a business. You figure out what companies are... Especially if you're good looking woman you can get jobs pretty easily in those positions. And I was offended! I would never ask someone to go smoking legal drugs with me? No. Let the girls ask you out? In fact that sounds like what happened in that case. I never heard anything else after that but it is a weird place. It's a weird place

1:56:06 Well, let's play part two. I think they're fighting back I think some of the cases that we're seeing are so egregious like what I'm saying in the courtroom are a lot of really egregious examples of Whether it's gender-based discrimination or what of gender issues with incline or Perkins are coming to light So for example there was today the revelation that there was an all-male ski trip in which one entrepreneur said, hey let's try to bring some women on this and a partner at Kleiner Perkins said actually no. On this trip let's have it be no gals. And then... Yeah girls suck! There is another... Actually after your story its possible that they're getting a little gun shy. If you bring chicks around before we know you get sued

1:56:49 Yeah, and you would if you look at the guy You never took them course I did on a sexual harassment course that it was required of all of me. No, I Started it but I wanted to go click-click-click. I said you're going too fast. You're not reading the pages like no Whatever the case is in fact in California? You could be like when you were talking to that shill woman That was the receptionist yeah She could sue Kleiner Perkins based on something you did, even though you weren't a Kleiner Perkins employee. It's happened in California numerous times and it can happen after work and it can happen at parties and it can happen on all sorts of situations. And so I...it is possible that Kleiner Perkins got gun shy and then the process made it worse for themselves because now they were excluding the females from things that they have to invite them too.

1:57:43 My general feeling, I will just say this is my general impression of Kleiner Perkins. Is that they liked having hot women around and they...I feel that the women who were there as limited partners or junior partners were token I really felt that it always felt that way to me. And by so in the meetings, they you know, they do their thing and yeah, i was at men's club and if Yeah, and eventually if you had a So we were at one point We got Trey what was her last name? She was the juiced girl

1:58:22 And I knew it was over. They'd given up on us. Yeah, and I had seen how they would treat her opinion in meetings and personally, I don't want to defame anybody but I always had that feeling that yeah it's a men's club For sure, for sure. This trip let's have it be no gals and then... Yeah they go shooting turkeys and stuff yeah no gals There is another story in which a one partner sort of lured a Kleiner Perkins, female Kleiner Perkins partner to New York on the auspices of meeting with an important internet executive and he turned out not to be there and it was just a date between the two of them

1:59:03 And then, that night he tried to push his way into her hotel room. And she had to push him out of it. And then when she went to her Kleiner Perkins superiors to say that she'd like this man not be on her review board they actually denied that request and and he was a reviewer. So later he was fired to be fair But I think we're seeing some really bombshell events coming out of here. And so, I think the ripple effect will be huge. But Nellie Bowles, we're also seeing—I mean, the company is putting up a strong defense, right? Yes. Oh yeah. They came out swinging. It's not—there's little room to compromise.

1:59:42 To put it lightly, they are saying that Ellen Powell was hired basically as a secretary to do scheduling and calendaring. And then that she was never up to the job of being a venture capitalist and just didn't have the skill set, didn't have interpersonal skills wasn't just wasn't capable of it with very strong language so there's little compromise here. Yeah Nicole Sanchez back to the industry more broadly It should be entertaining. I should go down and watch the... Well, they're going to have some pieces which will be secret because they say it discusses how they do their business which is poor so we really don't want to know. How you doing? First thing make people wait 45 minutes in the lobby And um..I think that any Kleiner Perkins company should be boycotted by women Let's start with Google

2:00:38 Yeah, you're right. That will not happen. You weren't going to boycott Google because of this case? No. And most people don't know what a Kleiner Perkins company is. All right now it's just it's just gonna be... It's gonna be a local phenomenon. While we're on Pete Aubert there are some fabulous news being pretty much ignored by mainstream media and this is about the creep known as Pachauri I got the clip. You have the backgrounder? Well, no this is the best i can do which is Pachari ousted for sexual harassment you give us the background but this is a short clip just introducing... We'll listen to it

2:01:24 Top climate scientist Rajendra Pachauri has stepped down as head of the U.N.'s Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change amidst an investigation in India over sexual harassment. A female researcher at Pachauri's group, the Energy and Resources Institute, accused him of sending her harassing email and text messages. Pachauri's attorneys say his accounts and phone were hacked. But it's much worse than that. This is a bullcrap report from Democracy Now! They love that guy. They're obfuscating, the main complaint is that he would pick people up like a toddler women under their armpits? That's creepy man

2:02:11 He would pick him up and call them by nick on little nicknames. And, and you know it's just oh man if you ever see that guy take a look at his picture Oh he's he's a creep! He's a creep of the highest order You have I always ask people or... You see people with these crazy looking mustaches and beards Or the long hair whatever ponytail but this guy is so creepy-looking Greasy creepy when he looks in the mirror i'm always wondering this This is kind of a point of interest to me When do you make love? love. Do you look in the mirror and say to himself, good looking guy? Particularly the beard with a white patch in it is scraggly greasy. So he has had to step down in the middle of some pretty big negotiations. You know, you also wrote a sex novel which people say

2:03:08 Kind of you know the Sounds a bit like the main character is him. Oh really I didn't know this you got me on that yeah, let me see if I can find a Guy find it a passage from his from his book It's very very very creepy um hold on a second. I have it here somewhere so Chowrie novel This guy, the racing novel written by the top dude. Let's see if there is your climate change. Climate change guy. Okay page 16 Sanjay is ready for his first liaison with me in a hotel room and 90 tall. I read it like you're reading a book on tape

2:04:00 She then led him into the bedroom. She removed her gown, slipped off her nightie and slid under the quilt on his bed. Sanjay put his arms around her and kissed her first with quick caresses and then the kisses becoming longer and more passionate. May slipped his clothes off one by one removing her lips from his for no more than a second or two. Are you hot yet? He remove this clothes and began to feel Sanjin's body caressing her voluptuous breasts The excitement got the better of him before he could even get started. Oh, preemie! Eugh... He enjoyed the sensation of gently pushing Susan's shoulders back a few inches an action that served to lift her breasts even higher Climate change is real! Show me your boobies! Lift them higher! This is creep I don't mind sexy books or anything but come on the guy's a creep Creep So he's out

2:05:04 And Ben, you know then this should of course if this is how he treats people then why can you trust him with anything? And as you know, there's been all kinds of issues with the reports that have... Oh yeah. ...strange things. Corrupted guy is corrupt. Yeah. Corrupted. He looks corrupt. He is corrupt and this is interesting I'm reading a blog that is called The Dog Ate My Data and he says Rajiv Pachari was apparently too busy to check into glacier gate problems in December we now know why and it goes on about this book but

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2:21:27 You know, I was reading up a little and diving into some more of this. But I liked your assertion that Putin has failed miserably and he is not the grand chess master there is how it there? I think one thing has changed they had the bit the you know, the continuing Minsk agreement And I read a report that Putin and Merkel who speak each other's language that they had a private meeting without any translators. No one was allowed in the room, you remember? You don't need translators! Well but yes you don't need them but there was just no one in the room it was just the two of them yeah They apparently talk on the phone all the time too although then there's somebody in the room right and say... But well maybe

2:22:10 But the results, you know...Merkel then went to DC and met with the president I guess to deliver the message. And i think the message is back off on Ukraine apparently they only have two days worth of gas right now if they don't pay another bill than Russia turns it off and that is gas that also needs to be shuttled through to Europe. I think this-I think if anything he may have a minor win on his hands with ultimately with Ukraine, Germany stopping not sending weapons to Lithuania and other countries. I don't know it feels... I think you're right it's a minor win. Yeah minor okay yeah then we there were an agreement.

2:22:53 a stone cold loser that can't do anything right and he falls down when he tries to walk. Wow, these little things are happening because he's got a lot of advantages and I don't see him exploiting them as much as you can but this is a good one. Crazy not too they didn't pay their bill! Just the merchant selling something this guy won't pay. When Kerry was up on the hill it was Royce I think? Is that Senator Royce? Ed Royce, is he a senator I think he is. No, I think he's a congressman. He asked the question which really made me laugh like wow okay it's such a good question and Kerry has such a dumb...I mean there's no other way to answer it You agree with me that when Russia says there are no Russian weapons or troops in the Ukraine they're lying Yes Why why do they lie you asking me

2:23:51 Yeah, yeah. Why would he lie about that? And care to... You're asking me! And his tongue was flipping out like a lizard through the all three hours. There's a lizard. He is a lying lizard whenever he's lying whenever it's bullcrap and this is what we know from CIA when people stick their tongue out pretty much signal to you I'm lying, to tell him lying. Mr Chairman Russia is engaged in a rather remarkable period of the most overt and extensive propaganda

2:24:29 exercise that I've seen. Really? It's very successful, this propaganda. Very successful propaganda. Here is Victoria Newland on how successful it is All you have to do is look at RT's tiny audience in the United States to understand what happens when you broadcast untruths in a media space that is full of dynamic truthful opinion They get their messaging straight. Sure, Vicky Yeah What is it? Is it big small? Is it nothing? It's just a fantastic campaign back to watermelon head since the very height of the Cold War This is since the very height of the cold war this propaganda campaign is just all out awesome they

2:25:18 have been persisting in their misrepresentations, lies whatever you want to call them. Advertising? About their activities there to my face, to the face of others Oh no! Oh no you didn't You did not lie to my face My face?! Because he's a face of America Oh I thought he meant that website MYFACE have been persisting in their misrepresentations, lies whatever you want to call them about their activities there to my face and the face of others on many different occasions. So we can all collectively say that the Russian leadership

2:25:57 Lie when it comes to their behavior in the Ukraine. Do you agree with me that stop saying the Ukraine idiot? They're Russian dismembered You agree with me do you agree with the wifey? What is something have to agree with this this guy is the biggest people in South Carolina, which we have very few listeners It should be ashamed of themselves to have this guy represent them And by the way John McCain recently said he feels that he's his illegitimate son and Oh, do you have a clip of that? No. I've been trying to get it but... That's what we got to find out. It's going around now. Now here's something that was interesting. We always are suspecting or suspicious of scripts and how they're played out and Charlie Rose can really be no different

2:26:38 He has his own scripts. He has his own ego thing and he's but he's clearly part of the elite And he had to twerp rice on Susan Rice the twerp. He's a member of the elites Stooges yes, is it himself? Is he counsel in foreign relations? He must be I don't think so No come on. He must be well. He might be but let's see oh I think it's a conflict of interest for journalists to be in the CFR, but... Oh, Erin Burnett. Erin Burnett is a CFR member? Is that a conflict for her? Wolf Blitzer? I think it is! Well let's take a look. How can that be a conflict? It's a conflict of interest. No, it's not. It's where they get their marching orders experts. Well, I'll say this though Charlie Rose questioned attending the Bilderberg meeting

2:27:28 So he went to Bilderberg 2008 and 2010. I'm just looking at the experts right now who they have... Because again, that's just a drinking club. I don't take tattoos seriously. Anyway so he has the twerp on and they're talking about NATO and Russia and Putin. Bill Myers or Moyers was the director of CFR from 67 to 70. Oh that takes the cake! All right go on sorry And he does something He, and I don't know if he mixed...I think he just made a mistake. And he jumped ahead to another part in the conversation, he screwed it up because there's a difference between the eastern flank of NATO which would be Poland what else is that? The Balkans this is the eastern flank of NATO not the eastern flank of Ukraine which is where we have of course you know

2:28:31 Pro-russian funded little green men, whatever. Okay fine And she gets so thrown off by it She calls him out and says what the fuck are you doing pretty much listen Charlie with respect to our NATO allies is we the United States and our other NATO partners have beefed up our presence in the eastern flank of NATO and we are now there In larger numbers air landed see those troops have to leave was enough Which troops? When the... Kiev troops and Ukrainian troops when they move. Sorry, but I'm yeah you're making a different point. You trying to... No. What are you trying to do? Go ahead.

2:29:14 This is so, they're laughing because you're like what are you trying to do? You went off script. Off script moron! What are you trying to do this isn't I'm not talking about the Ukraine troops that are withdrawing i'm talking about NATO what are you trying to do? We tryna... No we... no... What are you trying to do? Go ahead. I'm trying to keep you on track. I was just simply saying that we're taking this time... You sound like a street chick, black street chick when she actually talks casually

2:29:50 I disagree. I don't think she sounds like that She's getting a little low. She's not her normal self if you listen to her normally she has a very rigid cadence She's very serious, and she always ends with it kind of well I think she's so embarrassed about this this gaffe the Charlie makes It has nothing to do but laugh really like hyena nervously Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. I'm trying to keep you on track. You're trying to get me off track. No, go stand up. She does have a little bit of the... Yeah, I'm on track! What are you doing? What are you doing man?! Trying to keep me off track!! Let's talk about this spy memo. Hey man fist bump

2:30:40 Spy memo. The spy memo that Al Jazeera uncovered? Now, you know I don't think i'm up to speed on the spy memo you need to educate me Well let's start with the spy memo long form and maybe that's got it in there The talks from Israeli counterparts speaking last week White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Israel has spread false information No no no that's not it hold on I guess, I thought you would have something but... No. ...I'm looking for an intro. Okay so there's this... I'll just intro it myself. South African CIA leaked a whole bunch of or somehow it got leaked from South African CIA and it's a whole bunch of stuff about Israel and all this other stuff and the whole thing seems to me to be about let's play this clip as a setup Netanyahu versus Congress versus Obama

2:31:32 Okay, set up. A war of words escalated today between the White House and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu It involved his planned address to Congress next week on the nuclear talks with Iran Republicans invited him without consulting the White House Some Democrats have now said they'll skip the speech Last night National Security Advisor Susan Rice offered this sharpest criticism yet To PBS's Charlie Rose What has happened over the last several weeks by virtue of the invitation that was issued by the speaker and acceptance of it by Prime Minister Netanyahu two weeks in advance of his election is that on both sides there has now been injected a degree of partisanship which is not only unfortunate I think its destructive of the fabric of the relationship. Netanyahu who's in the middle of an election campaign fired back today during a visit to a Jewish settlement near Jerusalem

2:32:30 There are many reasons to worry about the agreement that is forming now. The world powers have committed to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, but it appears that they have given up on that commitment and are accepting that Iran within a few years will develop capabilities to produce material for many nuclear weapons. They might accept this but I am not willing to accept this." The Obama administration has said despite early reports no deal is in place Now, this is two weeks before his election. He's coming over to try to clear the deal with Iran by bitching and moaning. So coincidentally two weeks before his election... By the way nobody points the election coincidence with these spy memos that show up supposedly the biggest leak since Ed Snowden of all these memos many of them from Mossad telling everyone that Netanyahu is full of shit

2:33:27 So, let's play the short version of the Netanyahu spy memo clip. And maybe that will be an intro that we can use. A new report has raised questions about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's effort to thwart a nuclear deal with Iran. According to Al Jazeera Israel's spy agency, The Mossad contradicted Netanyahu's own dire warnings made before the U.N. General Assembly about Iran's ability to produce a nuclear bomb within a year The news comes as U.S. officials have reported progress in nuclear talks with Iran and as Netanyahu is due to address Congress next month." Now, I believe that Mossad's behind this leak because it has got some little snipes against the CIA. It is oriented toward getting the Israeli public to vote this guy out and get rid of him once and for all. Who was the contender? Is there a contender?

2:34:18 I don't know. That's a good question. Spy memo slam against Netanyahu is the clip I'd play next. loggerheads with his Mossad chief, Meir Dagan. That was discussed and in fact Meir Dagan even publicly said that a war with Iran would be a bad idea but what is just I think what was breathtaking for the journalists who work on this is to see Mossad's classified documents—a top-secret assessment no less—that has now available for the entire world to peruse and read at its own leisure. I mean, clearly Netanyahu came and spoke before the entire world presenting information that was in direct contradiction to the country's premier intelligence service. It begs a strong question where did he get his information from? Was he taking talking points from The Washington Institute and AEI or was he listening to his own intelligence services who

2:35:16 government of Israel pays to look after this sort of material. So it makes it a question similar to what Americans experienced in the run-up to the Iraq war, is this based on intelligence or is this based on political fiction? Hmm... so that's become a big deal Al Jazeera has exclusive on and only people playing this story which probably why you didn't pick up is Al Jazeera and The Guardian. The Guardian's always in on these things, so they're going through these... apparently it says cash It's a Bradley Manning sized theft of some sort

2:35:53 The guy kind of explains, I think if you play spy memo long form we'll hear a little explanation as to how where this may have come from. They keep calling the guy who you just heard is the reporter for Al Jazeera who broke this thing and he keeps referring to it as a digital leak I feel very bad. This completely passed me by and this is the kind of thing that i thrive for, i want to see these memos, i want to read them Yeah, I'm actually surprised you didn't have a— Well, this is—well, I was looking at the new EU energy union. It's a different issue. Well anyway… So play this long form and you get some interesting data points in here. The talks from Israeli counterparts speaking last week White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Israel has spread false information about the proposed nuclear deal

2:36:48 There's no question that some of the things that the Israelis have said in characterizing our negotiating position have not been accurate. There is no question about that With the White House accusing Israel of spreading falsehoods, new revelations about Israel's own intelligence assessments mark the second time in one week tying Prime Minister Netanyahu to dishonest claims about Iran Couldn't we... why don't we call this propaganda like we do when it comes from Russia instead of just call it propaganda They don't do that? No. The leak cable appears to have come from inside South Africa's intelligence service, revealing its exchanges with counterparts around the world including the U.S., Israel, Russia, Britain, France and several Arab and African nations. Ah! South Africa this is where we have a lot of the self-loathing Jews live in South Africa, the people who fund like Scahill's movies and stuff.

2:37:42 Good point. Yeah, this is where a lot of them are what's the name of that big group? The yeah we got to put signs up on our walls. It's true it's true it's true keep running into these organizations and then we run into him again birth of foundation Birth of Foundation. That's what it is. Other revelations so far include CIA attempts to establish contact with Hamas, despite a U.S. ban and threat by President Obama to force the Palestinian Authority to abandon its bid for UN recognition More disclosures are expected in the coming days. For more, we go directly to Doha, Qatar—to be joined by Clayton Swisher, director of investigative journalism at Al Jazeera which broke the Iran story and several others in a series of articles called The Spy Cables. He co-wrote the piece Leaked Cables Show Netanyahu's Iran Bomb Claim Contradicted By Mossad that appears in The Guardian newspaper

2:38:37 Welcome to Democracy Now! It's good to have you with us, Clayton Swisher. Explain what has happened? What did South Africa get a hold of? Is there a South African Ed Snowden? Well I think after the Edward Snowden experience someone would have to have their head checked fess up to being the source of such a leak, given all the travails that followed Edward Snowden after he essentially outed himself. This was a digital leak made to Al Jazeera. And one of the reasons people bring information out of Zira in the past—as they did with The Palestine Papers and other projects—is because they know we'll take every step we can to protect and shield their identity.

2:39:18 So, the way that we got these files is not up for discussion. But it is I will gladly describe for you an unprecedented window into how espionage is conducted not just in South Africa but the broader continent And what we have obtained is perhaps best thought of as—you know, if you looked at a discarded bag of rubbish, you won't know what's inside it until you open it up. Similarly in this, it's not rubbish. It's actually very useful information, but it's an absolute assortment of things that are seemingly unrelated but nonetheless highly newsworthy.

2:40:04 I was looking at the Bertha Foundation, a couple of films and documentaries they have funded. Dirty Wars, Citizen Coke, The House I Live In, Pussy Riot, A whole bunch of other ones I haven't heard of. Yeah, well there's a Russian angle to this of course and it is possible we don't know it's not up for discussion apparently where the stuff came from And there's a number of snipes at the CIA, there are a number of snipes at Mossad and then there is a lot of snipes that all named Netanyahu. Alright I have work to do on this. Which is good guy they want to get rid off so the Russians could be behind this whole thing because there are no snipes against FSB that I know off but we haven't you know just opening now so only seen one or two articles and it will like to you know its gonna competing with Snowden stuff

2:40:58 But the thing that was kind of a giveaway here, I thought it was like a bullshit thing they added and Cutter being the source of this information. You know you shake your head because it's like these things about let's get rid of Netanyahu any way we can and then well lets give the Jews one of these kinds of punch to the guts with this bull crap. Play The Water Sucking Plant. Hold on a second what is it called? It's a spy memo, the water sucking plant. Here it is. It also says Israel is working assiduously to fuel insurrection inside Sudan. Israel has even targeted Egypt, the first Arab country to give it recognition

2:41:45 readying itself to sabotage the country's water supply. Israel has created a type of plant that absorbs such large quantities of water as to significantly reduce the volume of water that reaches Egypt In this way, Israel sabotages its enemies and friends alike furthering its own interests in Africa. Clayton Swisher, Al Jazeera. Wow! So they've invented a plant... Enemies and friends alike that's those evil Israelis? Wow! They've invented a plant that sucks up all the water?! I like this. Yeah, they've got this plant. This is good. It sucks up all the water nice ways and meanwhile They show pictures of the Nile the Niles them you know this is like the Mississippi it's huge Anyway so they have to give that you know give these guys a needle as good but this this is a developing story that will I think we'll

2:42:42 May dislodge Netanyahu hopefully because the guy's a crazy man and And anyway, so yeah you better catch up on that cuz it's yeah I do. I'm sorry. That's completely did you get did you know about the other big break? That's happening then thing falling apart apparently Our buddy, what's his name? Reese Witherspoon. What is it who is the mayor of Chicago? Reese Witherspoon. What's his name? Rahm Witherspoon. Rahm Emanuel for some reason Reese Witherspoon. Chicago Mayor clip, this is news to me. The race for mayor of Chicago will go to a runoff in April incumbent Rahm Emanuel fell short of winning a second term outright on Tuesday he got 45% of the vote to 34 percent for Cook County Commissioner Jesus Chui Garcia as results came in they urged their supporters... They wrote us off! They said we didn't have a chance

2:43:43 They said we didn't have any money while they spent millions attacking us. Well, well we're still standing! This is the first step in a real important journey for our city to those who voted for me in this election I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart You're welcome, too. For those who voted for someone else I hope to earn your confidence and your support in the weeks to come. Garcia has appealed to teachers unions and neighborhoods unhappy with Emmanuel a former White House Chief of Staff for President Obama The runoff takes place April 7th Yeah but...I've seen a couple different...the president was in Chicago recently trying to help him out although it was there for other reasons

2:44:37 I think people are sick and tired of this guy. Yeah, it's what looks like in Chewy this Mexican character you know Chicago Chewy is the midget Mexican on the Chelsea Handler show oh i don't know that oh wait i do know that yes this little guy comes out he's always making fun of him. The mexican porn midget yeah yeah Chewy amen fist bump so Chicago, when I was a kid... you know spent some time in Chicago as raised. I did not know this! Third and fourth grade? I did not know this. This is news?! Yeah and when i was a kid, Chicago had three ethnic groups that were all very Polish. The polish pretty much founded chicago. Blacks and Jews That was it

2:45:32 A few years ago, and I've kind of commented on this a number of times. Everyone always throws back bull crap! A few years ago, I went to Chicago and drove around. I always have my places that I go. And I noticed that the town was probably 50% Mexicans, the whole town. Once you're outside of the downtown area... In other words, you go past Western Avenue and it's Mexicans especially as you go north. And there were some taco places and all kinds of Mexican...it was actually looked more like Los Angeles, Mexican town than it does around here. And I was always surprised by that how the Mexicans had just gone to Chicago and took over the place. Now it's coming home to roost with guys like Chewy. I think this guy can win. I vote for Chewy. I vote for Chewy? Hell yeah! Yeah. Mayor Chewy. It just sounds better.

2:46:25 The guy looks like a character. Chewy, I like it! Is that his last name? Chewy? No it's Garcia. Oh Chewy Garcia can't get much better than that. Chewy Garcia you can't get much more Mexican than that. Chewy Garcia everybody! I have a couple things before we move on things that need to be mentioned another departure from the 250 million dollar WordPress organization known as PieroMediaDRs DriveMyCarDon'tRapGranGrimo Ken Silverstein leaving First Look Media big. Yeah, it makes a big stink about it. Like they're dishonest management? Gee you think at the same time Ronan, the Sinatra kid fired finally but he's like Chris Hayes will also be moved out

2:47:14 He's, I think is probably one of the best guys on there. No ratings man! No ratings. They should get rid of that out. That's the problem. No ratings no ratings no ratings or ratings Euroland okay a couple things that are important as i said and this is very important for our European EU listeners you are being duped I know, surprise. But the EU, the European Commission has now finally put forward something they tried three years ago where they want to have a banking union so all of the banks are under control and now they want an energy union. And this is very bad particularly for countries like The Netherlands who are pass-through countries who make

2:47:58 make their money on buying energy from Russia and then reselling it, storing it, reselling it. And this is truly a very...I can't believe that there's no outrage over this but they want to combine 28 energy markets that means any country that buys energy which is pretty much all of the EU so they have centralized buying Which is not a good idea. No, it's if it's a horrible idea and people just pay too much everywhere instead of exactly Yeah France has been given a stay two more years they don't did you not have to adhere to the 3%? Debt three percent of GDP for the next two years while they figure it out They'll never figure it out but I got a free pass on that and of course

2:48:50 Greece, it was actually kind of funny. There was a... and I'm not sure how factual this is because anything can happen in these types of fails but the actual document which was the Greek reset with the IMF and how they were going to handle the payback of loans and bonds etc., someone got ahold of it You know, something we've been doing for a long time on... It's one of those things you always look up who owns the domain name and these little things you got to do. And they looked at the Word document it was a word document was a PDF or Word document? A PDF! And it says right there author Declan Costello who is from the EU

2:49:40 He's a member of the Muckity-Mucks there in Brussels. What? Yes, and his name is author on the PDF that is supposed to come from... There's supposed to be Greece's own proposal. Very funny! The Germans are angry they do not want any money going to the Greek. Greece going to the Greeks now they see the Greeks as con men I have actually had a copy put it in the show notes of Bildt And it says there's a huge... Nein! Keine weiteren Milliarden für die gierigen Griechen. For the greedy Greek, the greedy Greeks no more money for the greedy Greeks said the Germans and lots of people in Germany are just outraged that they're getting away with it again. That's what they do. Then we have big shock

2:50:37 There was a little exchange with Janet Yellen, who is our new Ben Bernanke. The Bernank. She runs the Federal Reserve Board... I wanted to get some clips apparently Elizabeth Warren went after her yet again. Nah, I'm not interested in Warren. What I like... By the way this is prediction for the Red Book. Elizabeth Warren or Hillary, either one of them are going to kick Yellen out and get rid of this policy of printing money. Essentially buying our own bonds as a form of printing money and it's gonna collapse the economy whoever you watch. The economy will collapse after the next election of a Democratic woman. Well 2000... if why don't you just put it? If a woman is elected no I'm not going to be in there when that woman is elected the economy collapses because we all know women can balance a checkbook

2:51:29 Hey, there it is. That's the joke in the comedy corner that's for sure! Yeah here is now this was a great exchange something we always talk about the U6 numbers versus the unemployment number so that though the idea that we have 5.7% unemployment in the United States is of course a joke because the people who have been voted off the island who are no longer looking for work or who only have some part-time gig That number is closer to 12% unemployment and someone actually asked Yellen this question, and her answer I thought was surprising. And it fits right into she's got to get kicked out She cannot be talking like this Do you agree that the unemployment number that you cited 5.7 percent in your opening statement paints a rosy or a better picture of the true Unemployment rate that i just cited

2:52:22 So, Senator it's the U6 is a broader measure of unemployment. It includes marginally attached and discouraged workers and also an unusually large number of individuals who are working part-time who would like full time jobs so it is much broader indicator under employment or unemployment in the US economy and while it's come down, it was 12.1%. A year ago its come down from there to 11.3%,

2:53:09 definitely shows a less rosy picture than U3 or the 5.7% number and I did mention that we don't at this point in spite of the fact the unemployment rate has come down, don't feel that we have achieved so-called maximum employment impart for these very reasons. Labor force participation has come down, has been trending down that's something that will continue for demographic reasons I don't expect it to move up over time but i do think a portion of the depressed labor force participation does reflect cyclical weakness in that in a stronger job market more people would enter

2:53:58 But you have to, you basically concede that 11.3% of underemployed people... That's not good in this country is it? That's abnormally high level and it signifies weakness that would be good to address Well there ya go! Finally finally someone's honest This will not stand. You gotta go. Can't be honest, can't be sitting there being an honest lady that's no good Nobody picked it up as a news story Cause she is boring She is boring But she does say major That's what you want I like how she says major which is the official Noah gender She says measure Measurement Hey John big 700 coming up Big 700

2:54:49 Very excited about the big 700 on Sunday. We hope you will consider becoming an executive producer a producer in general and we will have I'm gonna dive into this spy memo stuff. I got two days to do this Very interested, I want to read them all very interested. Yeah, it's give me like the snow and stuff They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna leak the leaks. Do you mean more like the? Chelsea Manning stuff Or also Snowden. Yeah, that too but Glenn Greenwald's slow death by water torture is another one and a week later is another one... By the way, Snowden's girlfriend was on stage at the Oscars? Did you know that she was there accepting the award with Greenwald and Portra? Where does this woman interview her?!

2:55:44 This is nuts. We should be interviewing this lady. The original girlfriend? The one that he... Lindsey, yeah the stripper. The dancer? Yeah the pole dancer. The stripper! Yeah that one yeah She was on stage?! Yes she- Lindsey Mills was on stage in a kind of a froufrou dress and she um..she was there when uh...when Poitras Accepted the award interesting mm-hmm. Oh, yeah you lost the bet on that Yeah I did there was no Snowden appearance But I think having his girlfriend appear was yeah, but that wasn't a man and that was nothing bad all right Onward we get 700 to go Hey John seven hundred more All right everybody

2:56:33 Sundays when we will return remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for your double producership 700 pennies is all it takes if you want, 700 dimes or $700 and John amen fist bump Amen fist bump to you Adam Curry Coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where the mockingbirds are outside making a lot of racket I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday for episode 700 right here on no agenda. 69 D9 dudes! Alright, judge number one Manny Pacquiao question please If you were given 30 seconds to deliver a message to a global terrorist what would you say? We need to kill them we need to kill them morons we need to bomb them and bomb them again in the US of course right? F-U USA will send you back over there Can fate

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