Episode 683 · Thursday, 1 January 2015

Team Taylor

Global markets shift as Lithuania adopts the Euro while cybersecurity experts challenge the official FBI narrative regarding North Korean involvement in the Sony Pictures hack.

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About this episode

Lithuania officially joined the Eurozone on January 1, 2015, a move interpreted as a strategic geopolitical shield against Russian influence as Greece faces a snap election and potential return to the drachma. Meanwhile, the FBI continues to attribute the Sony Pictures hack to North Korea, despite cybersecurity firm Norse Corp presenting evidence of an insider threat. These shifting global alliances and digital skirmishes set the stage for a year defined by centralized financial control and state-sponsored cyber warfare.

In the European Union, new VAT regulations have transformed the digital economy by requiring merchants to collect sales tax based on the customer's location rather than the seller's, a move critics argue favors massive corporations over small businesses. On the domestic front, neurosurgeon Ben Carson and Wall Street Journal editor Jason Riley challenge prevailing narratives on racial politics, with Riley arguing that identity politics from Eric Holder and Al Sharpton distract from internal community issues. Technical analysis of the Regin malware framework reveals a sophisticated five-stage spying tool linked to GCHQ and the NSA, which was recently discovered infiltrating Belgian telecommunications provider Belgacom.

Technical glitches provide a moment of levity as the hosts investigate why Bluetooth headsets clip audio during silent gaps caused by aggressive digital noise gates. The production year kicks off with a knighting ceremony for Sir Ass Crack and a deep dive into the 'Sacred Texts' of global banking, specifically Carroll Quigley’s Tragedy and Hope. The show concludes with a toast to the surveillance state and a critique of the 'enhance' trope in CBS procedurals like Scorpion.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Austin New Year's Eve Party, Texas Socialites

A host describes attending a New Year's Eve party at a mansion in West Lake Hills, Austin, featuring guests from West Texas who have profited from fracking land rights. The gathering included numerous registered nurses and featured a private, low-altitude fireworks display. The host notes a demure mood among some attendees due to falling oil prices affecting local businesses like drilling pipe companies.

austin· west lake hills· fracking· texas· socialites· registered nurses· fireworks

00:00 Get some rockets, we'll give you some rockets. reruns or parades here just 100% live from FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tate House. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's 1-115, I'm John C. Dvorak Happy New Year!

00:49 Me too. Did you not go out at all? I did when i finished the uh sending the closing out the spreadsheet At midnight, I did rush out to the front of the house and because I have a view from here or I can see that other side of the bay I could watch the diminutive fireworks display in San Francisco which is as usual boring it was too cold to stay outside so I came back inside It was freezing in Texas Oh yeah apparently there's almost going to snow in Dallas And they canceled most of the New Year's Eve celebrations here. Oh, because it was too cold! Well we had freezing rain which I think is exactly what you want with fireworks personally. Actually you do because otherwise a big cloud forms and you can't send them fireworks. Exactly so I found myself... It's hard to clean. I found myself at a private Texas party which i think there are some things that need to share You actually left the house? I did With an Uber

01:47 Well, that's the way to go but it must have been a premium on no there was no surge pricing and Surge so why would there be? Well you'd expect there to be some kind of surge just Because people are going around using this service Not wanting to drive themselves for two reason one because most people expected freezing rain I don't think that happened until like 5 this morning. So But I know great drivers you go where you went to some event. Yes, I did I went to a party at a house in the hills Let's just say a mansion Hills in the in the hills yes in the yeah We have hills here the West Lake Hills. I've seen those hills Yeah bills and this was so this is like usually preceded by kind of a square triangle sign triangular science says bump

02:42 Yeah, right Austin Hill. This is the kind of mansion that has a paddock in the backyard with a horse a Paddock a paddock does it have a helipad? That's even more important no helipad although I have been asked if I would be interested You'd be interested in what? Landing helicopter there and whenever people know you fly helicopters. Hey Ben. Let's land it by backyard yeah, okay sure So this particular party, a wealthy Austin socialite.

03:21 Small party, small party. A lot of people from West Texas now if you live in Texas then you know when somebody says people from West Texas were there... Well that means they talk like this! No no no. Well the only west Texans I know talk like this it all sounds like Ross Perot. That would be incorrect that's more North Texas because he was Plano which is Dallas so not at all like Ross Perot Okay, if you say Texas I'm sorry. I'm thinking East Texas yeah Doug dynasty is what you're thinking no Yeah West Texas is different West Texas's were actually the money is one area where all the money is John It's wine growing too is where all the money is

04:07 Yeah, it's Texas where it is nice and dusty and there's lots of money. Well... And why is there money? Because there's dust! No! No because all these people own property that have leased the rights for these fracking companies Oh So they are people just who make a million dollars a month A million a month Just in letting some derricks on their land However Nice However Not so happy new year for this people Right. Land rights have not been executed, there's one guy he has a drilling pipe company or he collects Teflon and the Teflon he then sells to a fracking pipe company. He collects teflon? Yeah yeah yes 30 000 pounds a month or something I was trying to understand Bring out your teflon! Bring out your teflon! I wonder where does one get excess teflon

05:07 I don't know, probably somewhere. Maybe in a gasket company. Orders canceled postponed so people are kind of freaking out because of this oil price everyone's you know the money is just stopped and it will continue to stop yeah So there was like... The mood was somewhat demure Oh, so it wasn't very festive is what you're saying. Well there were a lot of registered nurses for some reason at this party just in case He's keeling over You know Nurses are great. I love nurses. I bet you do because you know it's kind of like a flight attendant all you have to Do is say, you know? You guys really are the backbone of the Pharmaceutical or the medical the healing industry I think I said and they look their faces light up and like yes We get no props Like flight attendants if you say now you you were the people who will save us if we if we crash into the ocean Mm-hmm. All right, but you will get us out on time

06:05 So when you say this to a registered nurse, they light up. It's great! Yes yeah exactly. Oh thank... You're just a flatterer. Yeah I try. I really do try now um the couple so a couple other these registered nurses or i don't think that they were all all registered nurses but there was Texas women, and this was just a little different. Oh, there's the fireworks they had their own fireworks. That's a party! Really expensive fireworks but what was cool about them is that they were kind of like You know, kind of like you'd expect from a big firework display. Like Macy's or whatever but these were rigged so they exploded at the perfect height for residential. So it was your own private little thing but it was filled with big starburst and stuff like that. But they were lower? Yeah much lower! Perfect altitude just kinda oh yeah... Just our own little thing there

07:00 So that was nice. That is very nice with an electrical board, you know the whole thing well yeah some pro was doing it sure It's actually some dudes from the party like hey we'll do that Maybe they were invited for that purpose You could be Okay, so the women all brought food. There was enough drink and there was crazy amounts of alcohol and weed very typically. Weed? Yeah! In Austin?! I would have never expected weed in Austin. Well there was a big like a holo book you know one of those Sir Jimmy Holo books yeah

07:49 Like I picked a wrong time to quit weed This is good. No the chin no, it's not mead chat room. They're thinking mutton and meat no no weed weed now so the women all brought food and this was one of the open food yes And this is one these places that have been huge kitchen with big you know multiple stoves and ovens and all professional looking stuff So first of all, there was some queso there. Now if you know Texas and you can't kind of go anywhere without people whipping out the queso which is pretty much melted cheese and but oh man this was like magic sauce from West Texas! And then came the pièce de résistance... The strippers? Oh I wish no

08:44 Although the registered nurses did tell me something funny that every year at Halloween their friends who are not nurses called him and say hey Do you have a nurse outfit or leftover that I can use? Like they have some kind of rack They're all flabbergasted by this they can't understand but who do you think we are? My like but but seriously, do you have one of those come on? Now if you've heard of this, then you probably have. I'd never heard of it and certainly never eaten this. And it is a more... there were couple women from Louisiana originally so this is Louisiana cooking by the way if you say yeah been in New Orleans doesn't count as being ever having been to Louisiana Yeah you gotta get out there! This doubt did not count

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Turducken Origins, Louisiana Culinary Traditions

The discussion centers on the turducken, a dish consisting of a deboned chicken stuffed into a deboned duck, which is then stuffed into a deboned turkey. While popularized by NFL announcer John Madden, the dish is attributed to New Orleans surgeon Dr. Gerald R. LaNassa. Historical precedents for multi-bird roasts are explored, including the "Roti Sans-Pareil" from 1807 which featured seventeen different birds.

turducken· louisiana· john madden· culinary history· multi-bird roast· dr. gerald lanassa

09:35 And if you've not heard of it, please don't watch them to buy you there and then you been Louisiana If you have not heard of this then don't look it up because I just want to walk you through it turducken Oh, God. Everyone's heard of this? No I've never heard of this John! Well see that's because you don't... Get out much? Okay it has been popularized at least for the last 15 maybe 20 years by NFL football ex-coach announcer now retired is how long ago who used to go on and on and on TV about his turducken that he has every year

10:17 Well, okay so I'm sorry. I'm behind the times let me ease everybody into it i can see from the chat room not everybody knows what turducken is a turducken is an abbreviation for turkey duck chicken you can actually buy frozen turducken at the local store here yeah hold on a second that is not how we do turducken You don't do turducken No someone at the party brought the turducken they had done the turducken They had created the turducken Okay, so yeah and tactic now. Did they do it right? Why do you why do you owned? Why do you mock me?

10:53 Because it's, this is old news but was it de-boned? So you're saying that I'm just a stupid idiot for even bringing that up. No no no, not saying anything. You're annoyed to watch football! This is where you lose out. This is where your annoyed because I bring something up that I didn't know about and your going to scoff at me. Okay good well you do that. Well okay the question now I have questions... Was the turducken completely deboned Completely deboned, yes. So you could literally slice it? In fact I stood while the one of the women carved the whole thing down up in chunks yeah so let me just explain Turducken is a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey What happens if the chickens bigger than the duck and then you stuff a beer can into the rectum of that whole contraption

11:53 And then you cook it. Well, you left out the main part! It's a boned chicken. Bones chicken yeah. Stuffed into a boned duck stuffed into a boned turkey. Yeah and then... There are no bones. ...and it congeals and when you slice it is kind of like a layer cake but its all, you know, it sticks together like you got to slice and there's a slice of turkey duck and chicken And then I'm here's the only thing. I want to know so you and I are in Texas, and we're sitting around one day Hey, Jebediah! I got an idea

12:35 Why don't we take this chicken and shove it up this duck's ass, and then we'll take that and shove it up this turkey's ass. And then hey I got this beer can, we'll shove that up the whole thing's ass and cook it, it will be mm-mm good." That's just to stabilize it? Okay turn Duck in on Wikipedia. You came up with this. That's what I'm looking for, Dr Gerald R. LaNassa a New Orleans surgeon was locally known for his, this is the guy because he had his scalpel and could debone birds but what? This guy at least took credit for it, Louisiana so it's a Louisiana dish makes sense to me.

13:16 In the United Kingdom, a turducken is a type of ballantine known as a three-bird roast or royal roast. The Pyramid Company offered a five bird roast goose turkey chicken pheasant pigeon Is this something from Old England? Stuffed with sauce well this sounds pretty decadent yeah now let's go over this again Goose, turkey, chicken, pheasant, pigeon. Stuffed with sausage instead of a beer can! So no beer cans, sausage. Explain the stabilization part I didn't quite understand what you meant? Well the thing is going to fall into a flat... it's gotta be propped up somehow so you need something in that middle, the empty middle right to keep the thing so it looks like a bird

14:00 In his 1807 almanac of gourmets, Gastronomus Grimaud de la Reinere presents his Roti Sans-Prales, the roast without equal. A bustard," which is like a turkey, "'a bustard stuffed with a turkey,'' which is big giant bird I guess, "'A goose, a pheasant, a chicken, a duck, a guinea fowl, a teal, a woodcock, a partridge, a plover, a lapwing, a quail, a thrush and a lark.'" And an order land bunting and a garden warbler Wow But although he states that similar roasts were produced by ancient Romans the roti sans perille Was not entirely novel. The final bird is very small, but large enough to just hold an olive Now so screw you in your turducken this is lame turducken is no good It's totally lame wow well

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Oyster Consumption Habits, Pacific Northwest Seafood

A brief discussion on the optimal timing for eating oysters notes that the French consider January the best month for consumption. A personal travel rule is shared regarding the avoidance of seafood, particularly oysters and shrimp, while traveling to prevent foodborne illness, suggesting overcooked beef as a safer alternative.

oysters· seafood· pacific northwest· food safety· travel rules

14:54 But I just find the whole concept of stuffing a dead animal into another dead animal and then into more dead animals very... It's like the first guy who said, that snail? That looks tasty. Let me try that! So what about oysters? Exactly same thing And by the way today is the beginning of The Real Oyster Lovers one month You know that's funny because now i understand They were eating oysters last night Like that's strange. I thought it was strange, but is that a thing you eat oysters on New Year's Eve the French believe that January is the optimal month for eating oysters huh and I've had oysters I have oysters I like oysters But I don't like oysters too. I usually eat them up in the Pacific North but John C. Dvorak rule of travel

15:44 Oh, never eat oysters when you're traveling. Just don't take it to... Any seafood really? Any seafood is a shrimp in particular, oysters anything any fish or seafood is just not a good idea. It's bad policy. Seamen are also not good. Eat overcooked beef. So really if you look at it although we dressed up in chaps and cowboy boots were pretty culinary here in Texas Oh yeah, it's like the South. All of the Southern United States is very culinary even though much of the food has kind of lost its history and much of it's too fat where you have donuts filled with sausage and things like that. There's a lot of crazy crap I agree

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Jason Riley, Black Criminality Narrative

Wall Street Journal editorial board member Jason Riley is featured discussing racial politics and the narrative surrounding police shootings. Riley argues that the focus on police incidents in Ferguson and elsewhere ignores the impact of non-police homicide rates within the black community. He criticizes President Obama, Eric Holder, and Al Sharpton for utilizing identity politics rather than addressing behavioral drivers of negative perceptions.

jason riley· wall street journal· identity politics· eric holder· al sharpton· black crime rates

16:34 But yeah, it sounds like you had a good time. Yeah, I was like it was OK and then you know that I was out in the hills and I flipped the app for Uber and this is honestly this was 215. I mean I was up late and 6 minutes there's the uber guy. A great guy by the way, who I start chatting with him and he's like yeah doing this part time. And then he just black guy and he starts laying into how pissed off is about being half black. You got me now. Now you've got my attention with your half black." And he's like, this is... I'm so mad at people in my own community that are all screwing around. They're not out there working or they just have their hand out and then the president and Holder. And it was like wow! Do you watch Fox News? No no man this is real. This is real. But I guess that leads me to another, I just have to call it the uncomfortable Black Man segment which I really like

17:39 because I feel it confuses people when you have black, well it's black men in this case. I don't think we have many black women who get on TV as Republicans which is... Well there's that really pretty black girl who used to be on Fox and then she was a little bit on MSNBC and can't remember her name but now she's a correspondent on The Blaze Okay, well I don't watch that. She's very very attractive so we have um... And she's black So the one we haven't played is Jason Reilly he is on The Wall Street Journal editorial board

18:16 You know this guy? Yeah, I do. I've seen him a number of times he gets a lot of play yeah I don't know if he's a Republican or not He is a Republican. I would say he is a Republican And I just wanted to play a little bit of him because I love when this has played and the thing This was with maybe was this on CNN. Okay can hardly imagine it was some CNN But it just must be so uncomfortable for people who are You know, really truly believe that certainly in Texas you know a bunch of white privileged honky Ku Klux Klan motherfuckers out killing black people and gays.

18:55 Because that's what a lot of people think. Yeah, of course. Well part of it is that the left has no interest in being post-racial I think they pretend to want to be post racial but they practice identity politics which is divvying us up by race and gender and sexual orientation then making specific appeals based on those characteristics so I think this whole notion that the left wants to be post racialist false I think demonstrates that, what we see with this false narrative being pushed in the wake of the Garner and the Ferguson incidents. The problem is not police shooting black men. That is not what is driving the homicide rate in this country. It is non-police shootings of black men that are driving a homicide rate yet we have protesters all over this country pushing a false narrative and everyone from the president on down refusing to simply correct

19:45 the record here. Tension between the black community and the police department stems from black criminality in this country, high black crime rates blacks about 13% of the population but commit more than half of all murders in this country blacks are arrested at two to three times their number in the population for all manner of violent crime, all manner of property crime if we want to address perceptions, negative perceptions of young black men. We have to address the behavior that is driving those perceptions and that is not a conversation President Obama or Eric Holder or Al Sharpton all the rest want to have because they have a vested interest in pushing a false narrative which is that racism as an all-purpose explanation of what drives what's wrong in Black America.

20:30 By the way, he sounded a little gay there. You think he's also gay? No He's got that California black accent this one way I can describe it that has of that kind of a gay a gate one day ish Yeah quality to it. All right you know This is all fine and Danny and even find these guys in oh, this is great now I feel better because I put a black guy on who yeah like it is but It doesn't address any and he doesn't address any of their real issues which is the education system That's delivered to the black community. It's just Crap if yes, but not just the black community. I'm sorry otherwise The white community is pretty particular for a mess up get up the butt whoa You know essentially good School for the black community and most of the country is Essentially pre it's like you have what's a pre was college prep this isn't prison prep And public schools of course

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Ben Carson, Uncle Tom Label Controversy

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson addresses being labeled an "Uncle Tom" by media figures like Touré. Carson references Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel to argue that the label is misapplied to him, as he is not being subservient to the prevailing political establishment. The hosts analyze how the term is used by progressives to marginalize black conservatives who deviate from the mainstream narrative.

ben carson· touré· uncle tom's cabin· harriet beecher stowe· political labels

21:27 Yeah, yeah So I hope you weren't saying that. I feel better by putting a black no no no no talking about the Fox or whoever was it puts that on well Then I have been Carson who I know you like ours is the best right so Ben Carson has been called? I think Toure called him uncle Tom ah Which is exactly what you and I said this isn't when when a black guy goes on and speaks against You know, certainly the mainstream media... The narrative I guess is what people call it. It's Uncle Tom! So Ben Carson and by the way he's a retired surgeon isn't he?

22:07 I think he's still active. Okay, because he's on now wearing it He's wearing a doctor's you know coat which i find a little like somebody You know that? I'm sure that wasn't his idea well then he should reject that Well the lot of people aren't used to either Let me use some advice for people out there who happen to run into having uh hello People out their advice coming down to advise yeah, he's 63 so he probably still he's accredited It doesn't say that is retired um A lot of people that aren't used to dealing with the media, whether it's the television or even the radio to a lesser extent but magazines and newspapers

22:45 They get pushed around yeah, and you end up with you. You'll find yourself You just say no because they want to do an interview with you right for whatever reason And they're going to try to do things like make you pose for a stupid photo Where you look like a moron? Yeah? Can't you stand oh I got an idea I got an idea why don't you put this on your head Hey a fez good idea and stand next to this guy over here or stand over here. I'll stand on your note Okay, sideways sideways sideways. I said okay now move the hat moving hello, but oh god I got it And so they you ended with an idiotic because the photographers got nothing better to do then look for it So did he get some kudos from his buddies? Look at this stupid asshole what he did dude X last say no Eminem said he's gay man perfect

23:35 Just say no. They're not going to kick you off the show, and if they do too bad... So this is John C. Dvorak media training advice quote just say no. Just say no. Perfect So here's Ben Carson. Oh, well there is no question they feel that if you look a certain way then you have to stay on the plantation You know I've heard some people refer to me as an Uncle Tom Well obviously they don't know what an uncle tom is because they need to read Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel Uncle Tom's Cabin and see that he was very very subservient kind of go along

24:11 to get along type person, obviously that's not what I'm doing. And what the left frequently does and some aspects of the right too is they try to make life so unpleasant for anybody who disagrees with them that people will keep silent And I know that it's working because so many people come up to me and say, thank you. Thank you for having the courage to express this is a same way I feel but most people won't speak up. I'm trying to get people to speak up because this country is changing into something else and we need to make sure that we really want it to change into something else and not just end up there and ask ourselves how do we get there? There you go Ben Carson everybody

24:52 Do you think he will be run as a president? I don't think they can deal with him. No, I want to make...I want to correct...Uncle Tom moniker is not what yeah it comes its stems mainly because I was in at the University of California and I know about the way these things are used by the liberals or progressives whatever you want to call them Uncle Tom was taken from the book, but is not the character in the book we're talking about. And uncle Tom is perceived as a person who plays for the other team and not... I'm near the gateway, but I mean, in terms of a Republican. He's all for the establishment, he's for the exploitation of the workers and all the other rest... every stereotype. And he's black! So this is bullcrap what he said in some ways, I believe.

25:46 Because an Uncle Tom is... I think what he's trying to say is, um, I'm not a pacifist go along with the message. I'm the opposite. Right but that's because he's defining Uncle Tom differently. He's defining it based on the book where Harry Beecher Stowe is Uncle Tom's cabin which nobody even no one none of them I would guarantee that Touré has never read that book or cares his definition Wow you're calling out the black man dude Uh, Touré is calling him an Uncle Tom because he's not agreeing with Touré. Right but well that would be the new definition I guess. Yeah don't agree with me. Don't agree with Touré you're an uncle tom That's good i like that! Uncle Tom...don't agreed with touré You know touré knows from the spin cycle or whatever it's called

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Times Square New Year's History, MTV 1987 Memories

The hosts compare modern, corporate-sponsored New Year's Eve celebrations in Times Square to the "grungy" atmosphere of the 1980s. One host recalls a 1987 live broadcast for MTV featuring Paul Reiser, describing a time when the area was filled with sex shops and lacked the current "Disneyland" feel of rubberized tiles and heavy security cordons.

times square· mtv· paul reiser· new york city· 1987· nivea

26:38 The circle jerk. Isn't that the name of the show? No. Crystal Ball should be I don't know what she's doing there Well, we got a new year Adam you we do John it's 2015 and I Was putting my clips together I decided hey You know There's a bunch of old clips from last year and the year before and the year before mmm that I could pull out To show what kinds of things we were not We've long since forgotten Okay, I actually have one of those but yeah okay good. You have one too? Yeah i do For example uh the new year celebration did I get the new dude new one yeah

27:24 Here was in 2013, it's two years ago. This is the New York New Year celebration outrageous aspect of why would you go to Times Square when this was the problem? More than 1 million people from all over the world crammed into several blocks around Times Square three hours before the ball dropped there were so many people you couldn't get close enough to see it and this year there were no food vendors or public toilets Oh No! Wow. Sorry and the good news in place bomb sniffing dogs and radiation detectors in the ground Also be monitoring hundreds of cameras in Times Square from inside this command center As protests against police are expected across the country from New York to LA over what protesters are calling oppressive police tactics already in st. Louis a group arrested after storming police headquarters

28:24 And back here in Times Square, the people here can't leave and come back. And no backpacks will be allowed anywhere near here again the concern is that more than a million people will be here tonight Elizabeth. All right Gio thank you so much we're going to turn now to news Do I get to tell my Times Square story from 1987? Yes, and then I'm going to bring out the good news about all this. Why would anybody go to Times Square? Well this is my story in 1987...I had arrived at MTV in October and a month before the guy got set up then my first big gig was live from Times Square!

29:02 I was on Times Square by one time square. That's So they had the camera up in there, you know one timesquare building and I was down there by the No, no, I was in the crowd On the ground in the crowd and they had to sign where their squealing girls Yes And they assigned them but there were no none of this Nivea crap This blue Nivea bull crap. I don't know what you're talking about, Blue Nivea Bull Crap? They didn't have that this year? You know the big...Nivea sponsors them and you know the- I didn't watch that! Well neither did i but i assume that Nivea sponsored it again they always do that. No i didn't hear anything about Nivea And they assigned to me an off duty cop with a you know the big ass gun

29:46 Okay, and Paul Reiser was a tossing to Adam. Let's toss it to Adam down on time rise to the comic It's typical whenever they're gonna do a live show They bring in celebrities who are anything but television hosts and they suck They always suck so Paul Reiser I think maybe Sandra Bernhardt as well Who is definitely not good at just off-the-cuff unrehearsed? Stuff when MTV wants to be you know trying to be a family friendly Yeah. But anyway, I thought it was quite an experience because those were the days when there were hookers on Times Square and sex shops... Oh yeah! The place was really grungy. And it was grimy and grungy and people just puking all over the place and bugging them. You know there as many or even more cops back in that era in Times Square but they didn't do anything about anything?

30:46 It was a corrupt little Enclave it worked fine peep shows. Yes, it was good crappy theater times Good times It was like Grand Theft Auto. It was really totally and now it's like you think you're in Disneyland with the rubberized Tiles on the on Times Square if you fall down in Times Square drunk your head will hit rubber isn't you're not gonna die now Do you want to have a scrape? Yeah back in those days what you're talking about there was blood everywhere and the taxi cab would run over here because they cut that's kind of where Broadway and seventh split right, but now they don't even allow you can drive. There it's all walking

31:28 They ruined it. Yeah, they did! It's ruined I tell you People were peeing in the street Oh rats the size of dogs Oh yeah At good times Crocodiles inside these sewers ready to come out When I was in New York with Christina, we went around to see where we used to live and where the original MTV studio was. Unitel Video 57th and I want to say like 10th or something 11th no i'm uh the other way it's second... Was it second? Yeah by the ea- was at East River? No I don't remember but you know now it's like all big CBS corporate looking building and Tony's Deli is gone! You know just been replaced It's strange

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Backpack Etiquette, Airplane Passenger Frustrations

A critique of modern travel etiquette focuses on passengers who wear large backpacks on airplanes, often hitting seated passengers while navigating the aisles. The hosts express frustration with "drunk hunchbacks" who refuse to remove their bags or check them, also touching on the absurdity of fanny packs and small decorative backpacks seen in urban environments.

backpacks· air travel· tsa precheck· etiquette· roller bags

32:15 Reminiscing sorry yeah onward well back to the point that there was made in the second report the one from just recently Backpacks are banned, and I just think this is the step in the right direction And I want it. I've been wanting to talk about this for a while It's really I don't want to get to talk about for too long Don't worry. I'll stop you you go on an airplane hmm Oh yeah, I agree with this should be bad right there especially when a nice aisle seat and comes oh Someone holes yeah, they turn around and the back with that's your face. Yeah They're carrying some bag or worse They're rolling the bag that doesn't have the right width you know There's two kinds of roller bags one is a regular one then You can't really roll down the alley should lift it up carry sideways and take it down to where your seat is But these idiots now you should check in the bag you just checked the bag

33:08 These idiots keep trying to roll the bag. Yeah, and they're pulling in Poland it's a joke and then they've got the backpack on and there so they're swinging around back-and-forth bashing into you And I'm always on their lookout for one of them when I wonder if him comes near me and just even push it I Do really oh yeah? And then do they look at you like asshole no no they say sorry Oh cool, I gotta try this. This is a good idea! When they're coming i'm ready and when the thing even gets close to touching me I push it and I push it really hard And they say oh, I'm sorry someone in the chat room just said that they're like drunk hunchbacks

33:53 Yeah, you know like donkeys or Sherpas carrying these stupid backpacks and they're wandering down walking down the aisle swinging back. And then the worst ones are the ones who keep their backpack on and then they lift up there this is where that one's all right and then it lifts up their roller bag and then the backpack is in your face! And I say...and that's when i really push it to get the backpack out of here sorry sorry sorry wait a minute Do you actually sit there and yell at them? Yeah, say that again. That doesn't happen that often but I'm pushing always you say get back with how do you say that? Get that backpack out of my face

34:31 Anyway, but I'll push it and I do the same thing with these women who have these huge purses And they're swinging them around because they're on their shoulder and I'll push them to the women never apologize by the way It's only the men oh man Extremely annoying. These backpacks have become a plague there stupid-looking Backpass we've gotta go this stupid looking When they first came into Vogue, which is about 20 years ago. I always think what you saw all over Berkeley people wandering there in grocery stores with this huge backpack

35:10 What are you going to, what are you hiking into? My favorite later today. My favorite. What is in there that you've got it carried around all the time? Well my favorite is when you have the big backpack and then on the front and you got your kid in a sling. That's my favorite. Yeah yeah you gotta double or that way you're balanced. Yeah! And its always like kind of like an effeminate looking dude. Man my wife made me do this There's a lot of people. I remember one time, going back to New York...I remember there was this trend and this is about 10 years ago maybe or maybe longer. There was this idiotic trend

35:49 I don't know if you remember it, of carrying a very small dinky diminutive backpack. The thing was the size of us have a purse but it was a backpack and it was more like a drawstring type things that we're talking about. Do you remember being a drawstring? But it wasn't like a backpack. It maybe was like a drawstring but it was over your back and it was in the middle your back I think this was something that came over from Japan or something or Europe you know these things Some woman wearing one some with a green piece patch wearing this thing and it was the subway we're on the side taking the subway and the subway was packed. And so she gets in on this I'm still waiting for his next subway, and she gets in and can barely get into the subway and then the door closes and squeezes the little backpack she's wearing and starts banging it

36:45 Bang bang bang into the backpack and then a bunch of tomato juice down that ball for the backpack onto her butt I'm thinking well, there's justice. Oh man you know that's almost as good as the turdurken Turducken sorry turducken yeah Well, that's right so so the trifecta really is the huge backpack The kid in the sling and a fanny pack Yeah, yeah you might as well just shoot yourself. Shoot the kid first so there's no spawn of you Yes, well... That's pathetic Anyway I've been meaning to bitch about that for a while Yeah well you did! I'm very happy that's a good point So when i came back from Seattle again TSA pre-op whole way You got precheck? On that was on Southwest

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Lithuania Eurozone Entry, Greek Economic Crisis

Lithuania's official entry into the Eurozone on January 1, 2015, is discussed as a move for geopolitical protection against Russia. Simultaneously, the economic situation in Greece is examined following the dissolution of parliament and the call for snap elections. The hosts debate the failure of IMF-imposed austerity measures and the potential return of the drachma.

lithuania· euro· greece· austerity· imf· snap election

37:36 How does that happen? I think if you're a frequent flyer on Southwest and you've flown within the last year, they just put you on automatically. But this is bullcrap because you have not been interviewed. You are not an officially trusted traveler. You're a frequent traveler but not a trusted traveler so this would be my peeve. This is bogative! Yeah, you know what I got to say Right on. Too bad! Hey, I want to say something too first of all everybody hello everybody in Europe things change today in Europe big changes particularly well first of all we have Lithuania joining the euro which now the only country in that basic region that is not on the euro is Poland of course

38:21 So we have Sweden and UK that's it in that region, okay Right. So we have Lithuania and Poland kind of neighbors and then you know Germany Mm-hmm. And so that's a change and I don't know why what Lithuania was thinking Why would you want to join the euro at this point? It just makes no sense to me Well if you could take it get some free money maybe I don't know Well, I know the Greek thing is falling apart again Wow. It could have gotten some old classic clips well They have so they're having a snap election because they couldn't agree on

39:01 Did the cabinet basically fall? Is that what happened because they had a because of they couldn't or they did they could not elect a president? Something like this something like this, right. Let's take a look and so Of course we have the you know, the very priest dissolves Parliament for January vote Okay So it would be the cabinet fell basically And so they're going to have a snap election and we have the radical guys, the dudes who are saying we are going to get in and we are going to stop this austerity business. And, you know of course... They should do that's the way to deal with it. Yeah well they suck and they should just make it work bring back the drachma or whatever they use but this is gonna be tough But thats' the only way isn't it? I don't see any other way for them to get out of this and say screw you IMF we're not going to

39:50 implement austerity. There's no work, that country is dead! The country was doing very well by the way before all this began when they started putting this austerity and firing people just as a downward spiral it was still the most productive country statistically yes they had worked the most hours Yes they worked in most hours and they had high productivity for those hours And that was turned around somehow. It was set up to fail for some reason they targeted them You don't think it has anything to do with the Russians taking over everything in Cyprus and Greece? And now we have... And the gas going through Greece? Well, yes! Yes Of course it did

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

European VAT Law Changes, Digital Economy Impact

New European Union VAT regulations taking effect on January 1, 2015, require merchants to collect and report sales tax based on the customer's location rather than the seller's. A KPMG promotional video outlines the compliance nightmare for small businesses, who must now navigate varying tax rates across all member states. The hosts characterize the "One Stop Shop" scheme as a burden designed to favor giant corporations.

vat· kpmg· european union· digital sales· tax compliance

40:32 But no one ever really looks at that at any bigger level. Anyway, so they're doing it there's something we don't talk about it There's something much bigger happening in Europe which I got to tell you I didn't even know Maybe I knew but I didn't know that it was like its happens January 1st as of today Well, you know what? Let me play a little clip here This is from KPMG It's a promotional video KPMG are the, is that one of the last remaining top three accounting firms? Well it's one of them. But I know Anderson is out. Yeah they're out. Remind me one day my Anderson story. So KPMG is now talking to... They have several different products but this affects any company no matter what size so if we were a company which we're not

41:23 and we were operating in Europe, we would be affected by this law. And this law is something that is discussed quite often here in the federalized states of the United States of Gitmo Nation which is... well here it's sales tax then that pops up and you know oh do you have to do want to be paying sales tax for something you bought um in a different state? Well, the VAT now must be collected reported and of course paid after the merchant collects it. Paid to the appropriate authorities in the appropriate country

42:08 based on internet sales. simplification scheme. Under either method the business will still have to understand the VAT rates and particular rules of every member state that they're trading in, and be subject to the audit of that member state." There's going to be quite some effect on systems and processes and this is fundamentally because businesses will now need to build to identify where their customers are actually located

42:50 So you really need to start planning how your system is going to cope with the changes. And that could mean changes like introducing new VAT invoicing procedures or requirements, it could mean capturing and holding particular data which helps you determine where your customer's located. Uh-huh! Can you imagine this nightmare? This is designed to ruin the smaller companies Thank You And if you look giant operations, they don't. They have all these systems engineered. They could do this because they're they can just cover it right so that but they've come up with something called the one stop small shop scheme or something and why did they call it a scheme? I mean come on that's like it is a schemes yes being honest now schemes scam what does it called here It's the one stop something or other which I guess there's going to be some clearing house that you have to pay yeah and you'll be fined If you don't do it right

43:48 They're just... And you have to submit. They don't run you out of business, okay? You can ask just be a local little shop selling to the walk-by customers if you want to stay in business. This is part of I presume the one digital Europe that they keep talking about how does that even make sense when because every all these countries have different VAT rates some as high as 21 maybe even 23 percent i think Belgium has 21 The Netherlands I think went back to 19 And then there's this crazy system if you're an American and you're shopping over there, you can get these little chits. They show your password to various tech... I've never really completed this process have you? I have numerous times because I used to buy a lot of stuff

44:33 And so you get the beginning back when when the money was flowing John back in the game that way I find this stuff as far As I'm concerned the way these rates are if you buy $100 with it like some clothes or a jacket It's twenty one dollars of tax 21 dollars. I want that money back So you fill out the forms, different countries have different ways of doing it. In one country you show your passport and they somehow deducted at this right there but then they put some coupon or I don't know... What exactly is a chit? A chit's a little sheet of paper that has something written on it. Because I remember the camera shops in New York like 7th Avenue camera shops

45:12 They if you came in and paid some overblown price for something that you just couldn't get anywhere else But they their mark, or you could haggle down 50% easily If you knew what you're doing then they had this additional thing was well Okay So if you don't pay with a credit card of course That's because I didn't want to pay any 3 percent and we'll give you this This shit and then you can recollect the sales tax when you leave the country which I don't think that was ever that ever worked Well, I do know that...I can't remember which country I was in but it was at...I think maybe it was England. But whatever the case was you could do this and go, oh great! And then get all these chits and just gonna use them at the airport? You'd want to be able to get your money back? The line was like two hours long. That's what it was. It was not encouraging. Yeah wait a minute. So you couldn't just hang around that long. You had to go to your gate

46:08 So that was a scam. But anyway, so just back to the reality of this... This is a travesty! People should be rioting in the streets. How can you really maintain a digital... How can you grow a digital economy when you have this crazy... You could be audited by a whole different country for your VAT if you pay that other country? Come on. It's a little schmuck selling beads. Yeah, which is that's what comes after podcasting yeah Everybody it's no agenda beads here so I was blown away And hadn't really even heard about by the way lithi Lithuania Joining the euro from our expert our resident expert

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts thank artist Martin JJ for the show's cover art featuring Kim Jong-un on the Walk of Fame. They acknowledge the start of the 2015 production year and introduce the first batch of executive producers for the New Year's Day episode, emphasizing the show's "Value-for-Value" model.

martin jj· no agenda art· executive producers· newsletter· podcast art

46:56 They are, here it is and this resident expert of course would be a comic strip blogger. He says Lithuania... you should have asked me why Lithuania joined Eurozone! I'm doing the comic strip blogger voice. Not quite Because they are ready to pay any price to protect themselves against Russia First, they joined NATO then the EU now the Eurozone. So now full integration with West and thus maximum protection against Russia Okay I would buy it actually to buy that because we're pretty good at scaring a crap out of everybody Yeah, yeah, hey rush is gonna get ya and maybe they'll get some you know cool stuff Hey rush is gonna getcha. Yeah Maybe well, they'll get some cool stuff like some rockets or something Get some Rockets will give me some rockets

47:43 Hey, why don't we take a short break here John? Since we are moving up towards a but like 45 minutes into the first show Topics no We haven't but I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning in them Let me get to it and they in the morning to you John see See you later with your backpacks, Dvorak. Noahjindustries.com and in the morning to our artists Martin JJ We used his work for The previous show what we had a lot of good art actually I think yeah, but JJ's one was just just let me see What was it again?

48:38 It made it all come together. What was JJ's... you don't remember? I do. It was the Cib Jung Ung Star on the Walk of Fame! Right, The Walk of Fame with Kianis. Very good. Excellent Excellent. That's what happens, after a while you get this knack. Oh yeah? I've worked with a lot of artists over the years and cartoonists are the ones that fascinate me the most because you can give them an idea for a cartoon and then they put it together and go my god how do you even conceptualize it? Right. Get this...it's great people don't appreciate it. John Chitt Dvorak! I should have done that one damn stupid.

49:19 Anyway, the no agenda art generator calm. Thank you very much Martin JJ and all artists who participate looking forward to the first new art for the New Year and of course We also use these in other Venues such as the no agenda newsletter we have a few people to thank we have a lot of People that decided to become executive producers for showed number one show from night 2015 1 115 were actually people should note we are actually working on on the first... The stores are all closed, nobody's doing anything but we're here working on New Year. Okay? And I think that's kind of a testament to what we do and who we are right? Okay yes! So you might as well play that.

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Bluetooth Audio Bugs, Digital Noise Gates

A technical discussion addresses a bug where Bluetooth devices go into sleep mode during silent gaps in the podcast. This occurs because the show's digital noise gate drops the signal to absolute zero, triggering battery-saving features in headsets that then clip the first word of the next sentence. The hosts discuss potential workarounds, such as mixing in a low-level "comfort noise" signal.

bluetooth· noise gate· digital signal· audio engineering· battery saver

50:22 Okay, Sir David Foley came in with a the most interesting of all the donations for today 2015 2015 is the year no beats for you 2015 yeah, that's cool. I tm and happy new year Hopefully this donation will start off a new year in a great way the Christmas show was excellent Thank you That's cool looking forward to another year of deconstruction and insight an analysis from the best podcast in the universe You must just throw some karma his way heck Yeah You've got karma. I get the one thing I got from the Christmas show a lot of people were interested in yeah, we talked about The silence of the noise gate not that bothers people but it bothers some people who are using Bluetooth

51:11 What does it do well if because our signal is all digital and when the noise gates kick in? Then it's not like it's just quiet. It's zero so this zero signal It's just zero nice, so see that it's gonna be either one to some degree or zero and when its 0 many Bluetooth devices go Oh time to go to sleep They turn off yes That's a bug it Well I think it is too. I think that yes you can have a battery saver But it should be adjustable. So then what's happening is when we kick in again, then they're missing the first piece of the word because the Bluetooth is going... it's time to open up!

51:50 I agree you said alright. That's a bug it should be as least horrible bug to be and it happens on Bluetooth This is digital technology bluetooth shouldn't be thinking well everything's analog so there'll be some noise in there all the time Yeah, yeah in 1950 well So here's here's what we can do typical of this sort of thing so the things we can do are just bitch and moan about it until at least this is that's my favorite. I like, you know, I think you're right. It's a bug. I agree it should be user configurable after a minute or something. And what does a minute difference going to make in your Bluetooth battery supply? Nothing. Well we don't go a minute of dead air. That's my point. That's seconds. That's my point so you should be able to set it to a minute. You shouldn't have to set it to anything the users in today's world should not be setting these things

52:40 The other thing we can do is I can mix into our signal a my plus one yeah like as plus zero zero zero one Something yeah, that would probably solve the problem But you know I was out here solving the problem is solving our immediate problem. Yeah It's not solving the users problems not solving We don't have users for do well anyone who's using Bluetooth it's me. It's not solving a problem for humanity Is what you're saying? Well, I just wanted to point that out. It's not solving the problem right? I just wanted to point it out. It's a workaround! It's not even a solution. Yeah... But its crap! See right there we were quiet and a whole bunch of people's bluetooth just turned off

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Producer Donations

The hosts conduct a knighting ceremony for high-tier donors, including "Sir Ass Crack" from Lake Geneva and brothers Steven Fettig and Ramsey Cain. They discuss the logistics of physical CD distribution and the "No Agenda" archive, while acknowledging various producers who have reached the level of knighthood through cumulative donations.

knighting· sir asscrack· ramsey cain· paypal· donations

53:26 Coming in second in today's sweepstakes is Ass Crack, in Lake Geneva Wisconsin with $1,000. Thanks for getting people to think outside of the box that they want us in. So this guy actually came in on PayPal as Ass Crack? Ass Crack. Nice and he's going to be his knight. He'll now be knighted today so he'll be Sir Ass Crack. To you! Cool. Steven Fettig and Ramsey Cain from another Wisconsin, or a couple more Wisconsiners. Well, Ramsey Cain of course is from the noagendacd.com Yeah he is the noagendacd.com guy And I handed out these things all over the place. I gave them to people I was sitting next to on the airplane. I gave it to the person that checked me my rental car in Hey there's an old kooky guy with the CDs

54:19 He must think he still works at AOL. Funny thing is, when you give somebody a CD nowadays they light up! Really? Yeah! Oh it's like a gift! Wow what is this strange object?! Huh... yeah no I tell you go give some CDs away and people will go oh thanks they just light up. You said, you know. Did I say it? Yeah you said yeah no. You also did two essentially's earlier right after each other. And by the way... But by the way, I think somebody came with a deconstruction of yeah and no is yeah i know. Yeah but this incorrect is weak let's not do it. I'm trying to switch though if I can say yeah I know that I can catch that easier

55:04 Well, by deteriorating. By going backwards! It's weak I just don't like it we can be above this we can do this well yeah well that's what yeah you rise above this uh Stephen Fedek and Ramsey Kane in Delavan Wisconsin uh Ramsey introduces you okay this is their brothers they're brothers Brad i can assure you Apparently Fetig is annoyed that his brother, there's a blood feud going on between them. It's Abel and Cain! So here's my donation to attain knighthood an extra month I would give Ramsey Cain this came from Steven Fetic the same status in all seriousness keep up the awesome work love the show so there he is.

55:46 Is he donated enough to make both him and Ramsey a knight? Right, so this is the double knight. That's cool They were up to the point where that blows were coming yeah well And then there's the brother yeah let me just see hold on we just see what do they have names they have none you Just check yes in the thing yeah They do have yes it wants to be known as sir pants okay all right okey-dokey Yeah, but this is just gets we don't go get into that no James Pyre sir wire of the hidden jewel in Escondido California 333 33 beautiful I TM John and Adam how it felt wishes for the holidays and happy New Year's to you and your family space at you two are Working over the holidays because you would miss each other if you didn't well. That's not entirely true. I don't think so There are entire days that go by they don't think mmm

56:39 But I did miss the Christmas show. I missed doing a show, but not to... Well yeah, I talked to you- You said that in the last show you were lamented. Yeah. I did not feel that way. No well your- As far as I'm concerned- You're jaded, you're jaded! Noah Jendreev's education is the best schooling in the universe. Thank you for your courage Sir Wire of The Hidden Jewel Oh, thank you. Okay. Christopher Dolan in Berlin Connecticut which he must be a night yeah 333 33 he'll be at night Yeah I guess it will and he says don't read on the show blah blah blah He wants to be Sir Christopher Dolan of pancakes got it got it got it got best podcast in universe

57:23 Sir Paul Boyer in Howell, Michigan. 333-33 another one is a lot of 333s I just wanted to make sure the best podcast universe was happy new year almost every show you guys say something that reminds me why i'm a producer and I wanted to take this chance to do it wanted to say I love the Christmas special thank I have been listening since the beginning and I was kind of fun to be reminded how much this show has evolved and changed Keep yes, it went from correct. Well you know we don't talk about the news To hey hold on a second John I've discovered something that's incorrect in the news We should do this more often keep up the great work as I slowly worked my way up to Baronet Baronet see mmm better Baronets nation mitten

58:15 Sir Dr. Sharky, hey Jackson Tennessee 333-33 Mac Daddy and Daddy Mac I apologize for my absence over the past six weeks that was it I was taking a total news fast for my sanity not a bad idea unfortunately the day i broke my fast that was the day that we learned that North Korea had hacked our national defense computers! I mean Sony Bullshit My first thought was bullshit It's probably a disgruntled employee. My no agenda super sense was right on! That's Spidey-sense, actually... Well, he says super. Yeah I know As i listened to your latest show at the time where you were saying the same thing Now that meme is all over the news and in the internet as well So im back to listening on a regular basis We have this... A lot of people have this effect They drift away Right yeah they do You'd have to be sucked back in otherwise they start And so they get... Im sorry They get colds They get the flu They get itchy All kinds of bad things happen out there Oh yeah Rash

59:19 Rash rash, but I think the way it works is something shows up and you have the The training this the eyes peeled by his wide open training And you look at something and go, that's gotta be bull crap. And then they're like...you know maybe the guys have been talking about it. You check back in lo and behold, you get confirmation, you're back on the train! You get confirmation in a big way with all kinds of backup details which is important. Oh yeah with show notes to go. Yeah true True, true fact.

1:00:08 Greg Zella in Fairfield, Connecticut. $300. John and Adam happy new year this donation brings me over the level of night as counting below he's got it there I wanted to complete my knighthood at show 666 but I'm an ass and didn't follow through so i am through So I am...so I though what? Whatever you see thought that January I thought that January 1st would be better the show continues to be a great filter for the mainstream media crap out there I've directed a number of folks to it in hopes of hitting them in the mouth, but alas few have converted. Seems they may need a swift kick in the ass." Yeah just if...if it doesn't work just let it be. You know people that are already kind of thinking along the right lines we just help them. People these people have to be voted off the island someone's got to go

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Job Karma, Birth Announcements

The hosts distribute "job karma" to listeners seeking employment and "hot chick karma" via a link to a Raven video. They celebrate the birth of a new "human resource," Emma, born to a producer in Portugal, and discuss the "excruciating pain" of childbirth as a reason for the survival of the human race.

job karma· raven· emma· childbirth· producer notes

1:00:57 Please knight me a Sir Mad Hatter Knight of the Fifth Column. Please serve sake and sushi at the table for me, if you want to write that down." I'd like to hear Oreos are more addicted than cocaine. Team Obama could use a whole lot of karma for 2015 The job still have no house and I'm seeking a new job. So he needs job karma, right? And then the cocaine thing Yeah, your wish is my command Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine There's a need for rescue mission when the world is threatened the world needs help it calls on America

1:01:41 And that's the story. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. I'm really grateful for being a No Agenda listener. Before I heard your show, I was listening to the other radio host from Austin Texas even though he had on Cool Guests, I couldn't stand the crazy rants and hyperbole that was part of his show. What you do is what I want when it comes to the news straight up no BS information and I was wondering if I can get a hot chick karma

1:02:31 Spending New Year's sick and alone really sucks. I'm about to pass out from the medicine so I better hit the donate button in PayPal before it's too late! Best regards, Sir Reishmeister Yes By the way what does it come to become a Duke? What is it take to become a Duke? It takes 30 nights Oh no that's Grand Duke That's Grand Duke yeah I can look it up Alright Give it up for Raven! You've got karma. It's all the hot chick I could think of. Where did that come from? Well, he wanted hot chick karma so I gave him Raven. Actually, I will put a link in the next newsletter to the Purage... Yes. IT'S REAL! THE PURAGE IS REAL! Don't ever doubt it! It's happening now! It's real!!

1:03:22 Pedro Vaz in Coimbra somewhere $250 I do not know if I have an email from him. God Queen for a dog I can look up see we have something from Pedro. Yes, it is a new Pedro I don't recall anything coming in from Pedro Pedro Pedro last name again Pedro here it is Good. Here it is, this is when did this come in? December 28th yeah just released a $250 donation I don't think PayPal attached my note to it correct The donation is to acknowledge the quality of your recent shows thank you My daughter Emma was born today at 4am central

1:04:13 European time. So please add her to the birthday list." Well, okay I don't know if she's-I don't think she is. "'I love you baby.' Props from my wife and the women in general. I don't know how they handle it. I think if men had to go through the excruciating pain of childbirth, the human race would have become extinct long ago.'" Uh... Please give karma everyone for a better 2015. Sir Endipity That's who we're talking about here. I like that yeah Let me put that in the list. I don't think Eric had that, um... So we have birthday... let me just double check No we don't so Sir and Dipity His brand new human resource Emma Okay And she was on- born on the

1:05:01 28th of December. I'm going to be associate executive producer with Sir Rieschmeister. Nice! Eric Van Martyr in Van Nuys, California 23456 Happy New Year old crackpot and buzzkill may i have two shots at 2014's ugly head and some karma for my best buddy Mike who got laid off before Christmas thanks yeah good work how nice is that? Eric yeah you've got karma Alright, uh... Actually the Dame Melody Man who's now going to be renamed. She is a Baronetess. Dammit Janet!

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Dammit Janet, December Birthday Struggles

A donor is dubbed "Dammit Janet of Transylvania and the Louisiana Purchase." The conversation shifts to the plight of "December babies" who receive a single gift for both Christmas and their birthday. One host shares a story about a sister born on New Year's Eve in 1967 Uganda, describing the traumatic hospital experience during a chaotic night in Africa.

dammit janet· louisiana purchase· uganda· 1967· birthdays

1:05:45 23456 from Ringpool, Louisiana and she sent a note in. Okay. Handwritten along with an accounting it says dear dude named John and dude named Adam this is both handwritten and a drunk donation. Oh whoa! For John she says okay here we go I'll try to do it Actually, you should do it. I can't really do that And with today's contribution I give myself a birthday gift of nightly upgrade you're not doing drunk. I am drunk. I'm drunk This is the way women are when they're drunk. Ha ha I know I would ordinarily be a baronetist but as more of your listeners are ordinary and that's an amazing an unnecessary mouthful

1:06:36 I claim the title by might and main of dammit, henceforth to be styled Dammit Janet of Transylvania and the Louisiana Purchase. You may want to add that to that. Hold on a second! This is not anywhere in my notes. Why would it be? I'm reading it now How could it possibly be in your notes? Well, don't you send this stuff to Eric so he knows? He hasn't written notes. No! Alright... So what am I writing down here? How many people can read Longhand but me? True But what am i writing down who is what Who's becoming what? She's going to become Dammit Janet of Transylvania and the Louisiana Purchase Of Transylvania and the Louisiana Purchase

1:07:28 And she's a baronetess? Yes. As the gift to me, please play three oldies. Train is good. Don't eat me! and climate gate. And please give karma to all the other December babes who as kids only got one present to cover... This is true! Say this again? She says, give karma for all the other December babies who has kids only got one present that covers both Christmas and the birthday I know it sucks so bad is horrible. It totally sucks in the morning. My sister's birthday is January 1st

1:08:09 Does she get two gifts or one? No, it was like no one... She's completely ignored. Yeah it was my birthday. Right yeah you're screwed! Imagine that she was born 1967 in Uganda Can you imagine what the hospital... She's yeah, her middle name is Nankia. Can you imagine what it must be like in 1967 to give birth on New Year's Eve in Africa and Uganda? My mom... The taxi! She couldn't even talk about it she couldn't Who my mom she it was such a traumatic experience for her better was just driving She said they were just people because there are all these bars You know like shanties next to the road, and I think they killed a couple people Just you know they were just drunk and walking from the car. And he's driving into the hospital Kill the couple Africans yeah, sorry leave a chit behind

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

101st Airborne Ebola Division, Bitchit.com

A producer from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, mentions the 101st Airborne's involvement in Ebola relief efforts. The hosts briefly discuss the missed opportunity to register the domain "bitchit.com" as a parody of Bitcoin, noting that most "chit" related domains are already taken.

101st airborne· ebola· fort campbell· bitchit.com· domain names

1:09:10 Eat me Hillary Clinton! To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates. You've got karma. I threw in extra karma and i'll give it a... Just throw that in for the drunk thing. Eric Blake Hopkinsville Kentucky 20150 and he sent an email- I killed your husband here's a chit Nice I sent in my $201.50 donation via my bank, it should arrive on the 26th or later and I've been listening for about a year and started donating when I picked up the show from the first episode via the NA archive noageneration.com. I live close to Fort Campbell Kentucky and 101st Airborne Ebola Division.

1:10:02 Apparently it's the Ebola division. Thank you for the show. Please play Obama, A-Team. Oh there is the team over here. And Karma to thank the men and women of 101st for their courage! Hell yeah well then we should also play a little marching stuff with them I think that is kind of cool. Little marching. Those are the facts of this world and she will all surrender to them! You pigs inhuman creatures There's a need for rescue missions. When the world is threatened, and the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story... You've got karma. Ah, damnit! What happened? Well I wanted to register bitchit dot com

1:11:04 Bitch it yeah, I thought bitch. It would be cool like a Bitcoin only a bit shit And it's already yeah that is already gone of course now all the chits are gone when the shots and shits are down Joshua shiny in Kansas City Missouri $200 this we have one more But I don't know if there's an email or from him. I didn't notice who were looking for Joshua Joshua was shiny and my system. I'm gonna look oh I've been lucky with the system today, Josh. We should do this in advance but we don't have time because we... We're busy preparing the show! And so when people send emails and they sometimes get missed Hold on a second what do i have? Uhh..I got nothing. I have uh... Let's see what his email looks like What is his name now Josh? What was his last name? Shiny S-H-I-N-E-Y Oh okay and I got his email let me look it up. I can't I'm not gonna say what it is Please don't But it starts with gloss Gloss

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Megatron Man, Mac and Cheese Karma

A listener recalls laughing in a grocery store at a clip of "Megatron Man" mocking a selfie girl. Another anecdote involves "No Agenda Karma" manifesting at a Gordon Ramsay restaurant, where a listener found a wire fragment in their mac and cheese, resulting in a free $300 meal for the table.

megatron man· gordon ramsay· mac and cheese· kobe steak· wire fragment

1:12:01 Yes, very funny. Funny. Okay I don't know nothing all right sorry Thank You Joshua for the $200 Christopher Peterson Portland Oregon $200 you'd be a final executive not or sorry associate exec producer for show 683 Hello, gentlemen. It has been a while since I last donated and have meant to go for awhile today However, I was listening to episode 680 is he gonna are you mocking? Is he mocking us as you know? I believe this is what it sounds like when he talks not fucking anybody Okay When you played the costumed of Megatron man making fun of the selfie girl. Mm-hmm

1:12:46 Your generation is such a disappointment. Yes I was in the frozen food aisle in the grocery store at the time and busted out laughing Which earned me quite a few looks from the other shoppers. I went home immediately and donated Thank you for the show, and here's a prosperous new year if you have that clip saved And i would love to hear it again If not please play one of your choice Chris in Portlandia You know i think you told me actually to iso that one bit about your view Generation is such a disappointment. Yeah, I have the clip though of course let me just grab it here hold on but I don't believe Seriously come on people what is uh? Really you don't even want to know what's going on hold on Wow so I try to open the clip and I say show me the original which you can do in and oh wait maybe

1:13:49 I just want to open this and they opened the mail There you go nailed it nailed it yeah, you should clip that out. It's a clip that is clipped Someone been made a jingle for us oh cool. Yeah, I have a note just an random note from Wesley Newbern I just thought i'd read him because it was sent in by over the transom, over the mail system or the snail. Sorry I haven't been able to donate he sent us two little Christmas ornaments that were carved out of wood that spell out shut up slave

1:14:36 Nice, and there's two. There is one for you and one for me? Are they identical or are they... Yeah yeah they're exactly the same. Same from the same lathe? Well it was a laser thing. Cool! And are you going to send that to me never?! Yeah no I'm gonna send it right after this. No yeah no yeah no. Yeah yeah I'm gonna send it but- But I think you said no I'm not gonna send it. That's what it sounds like I said right. Erics' gonna send if anyone sends it Well, then I'll actually get in a box of stuff to send you when the box gets big enough. I'll send them all I think I have an extra challenge going for you Sorry, I haven't been able to donate recently. I'm sending you these if it's fits at ships You remember this right chits? Ornaments as a token of my appreciation for the show I should donate more often as every time I do karma hits me in the mouth The last time I donated I was it was just before trip to Vegas and

1:15:27 My son is an aspiring chef, so I was treating him to a dinner at a certain angry man's restaurant. That would be uh... Angry man. Ramsay Gordon, Gordon Ramsay Oh okay When I saw that one of the side dishes was mac and cheese I just couldn't resist! I got my Kobe steak with my side dish And i sat down on and on my first morsel of mac and cheese I heard a crunch What the heck? I pulled out a 1 inch piece of wire from my mouth WHAT?! I showed it to the waiter and the whole restaurant freaked

1:16:04 The manager came over to check me twice end of story We got five complimentary desserts and a whole $300 meal for free. No agenda karma works I don't know why it felt good. I have to give throwing a Putin there yeah I don't know what the Putin was doing. I want to remind everybody we do a show coming up on Sunday, and would like to see continued support. It would be nice if it was at this level. Dvorak dot org slash NA is the place to go. Yeah, I'm going to give him a little karma for that because that was nice. Mac and cheese karma works John!

1:16:47 Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. There we go, all right everybody Thank you so much these of course are real producer credits executive producers associate executive producers Goes along with our peerage titles all of this is real It's real! And you can use these credits... You know your getting a little better I know These credits are real! You put a little echo on that. Yeah, it's good isn't it? It's better! I'm working on it... Still not quite the same because the pacing of the you got to get right-you're getting closer to gravel but not quite to the same pacing but it's good keep going keep going yeah I'll work on it. So of course we all need people to go out there and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out, hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

AirAsia Flight 8501, Cumulonimbus Cloud Dangers

The disappearance of AirAsia Flight 8501 is analyzed, with a focus on the meteorological dangers of cumulonimbus clouds. One host, a pilot, explains that these clouds can drive an aircraft into the ground or shoot it into space, suggesting the pilot's decision to enter the storm was catastrophic. They also critique CNN's coverage and Richard Quest's reporting style during aviation disasters.

airasia· flight 8501· richard quest· cumulonimbus· aviation safety· black box

1:17:44 Now, alrighty. I wanted to talk briefly about AirAsia that uh... Just because those people were expecting us to talk about it in some way Mimi was complaining to me about the coverage that She says there was a they showed actual bodies floating around and every news. Yes area, but in the u.s They killed at all know that did pop up it popped up on yeah is good popped up again You know well The best coverage of course is CNN whenever there's an aviation disaster the no agenda

1:18:33 Thinking oh, yeah. I saw this too you must because Richard quest who is doing meth again This guy he's on the air high is that what you're talking about? What yeah Yeah, I was watching him. I didn't see think he was on meth He's always been this way but now here you are saying it was always on meth No, I think I think he did some a couple of episodes I saw him and I think maybe it was last night before I left and he looked high man. It was uh And he draws these things out of this long... Oh, he's an old lady. He's like a stand-up guy! He's no old lady is what you're right? He's an old lady Yeah Okay so I just want to say a few things first of all surprising they really haven't found much You know and there's it's a little dubious as to whether They've Really located the wreckage. You know the sonar yeah maybe yeah No We're not sure

1:19:33 There's a picture of the Indonesian soldiers carrying, that's really gruesome I felt. The two coffins and one has 001 and the other has 002 sign on it and they have one blue suitcase so not exactly great You'd think there would be more stuff. You think there'll be more stuff now, what is coming out now and this is not flight data recorder data it's a so-called black box but looking at some of the ADB, ADBS tracking systems which are you know notoriously they can be often really wrong

1:20:14 We saw this aircraft all of a sudden descend at between 5 and 6,000 feet per minute. This is outside of the envelope of the aircraft and the forward speed was I think 61 knots which means this thing was going straight down I mean, just no forward speed. Just nosedive or could be could have been who knows? But I think it had to be a nose straight down and the speed of the aircraft is coming apart in this trajectory But here's the thing that I don't think anyone has really explained this. When you learn how to fly, and of course I learned in the UK and the Netherlands and Belgium... There is a lot of inclement weather. And you learn weather was one of the main tests if you learned how to fly or you learned engineering, electronics, if you learned human performance, and you learned meteorology

1:21:18 And when you are flying for the first time, your first cumulus nimbus cloud is pointed out which this thing... The top of these can be in space. Yeah, Nimbus! That's the cloud In space and it's pointed out to you and here's what every single pilot has learned that sun is something you do not fly into ever And of course you go, why not? Clouds are fun to fly through. Yeah but you could fly into that and you could be shot out into space or you could be shot down and driven into the ground like a spike because that's the fierceness that is going on inside that cloud so for anyone...and I heard this last night well ATC was wrong they killed all these people! ATC they kill it! No

1:22:09 Pilot always in control. Any pilot who thought it was a good idea to fly into this thing, 20 thousand hours the sky had? No! I can't believe that any airman purposely said oh yeah i can make it. No you don't do that ever ever ever You swing to the left whatever you have to do you do not go into that thing so im puzzled It went and if they find the flight data recorder, then we will have some more information. Although strangely the reports are already saying well this flight data recorder may not be very useful I'm not sure why they're saying that because there's all kinds of data it's not just your you know the basics of direction speed etc... There's a lot more information that can be garnered from this

1:23:03 But I, what it looks like is they went into the cloud and the clouds shot them because you could easily be popped out of the top. And you might live people have lived guys have gone in and thrown out at 60,000 feet and somehow they made it back and you can live But that's not really the, you know, that's the exception to the rule. So I, this is very curious to me that any pilot would make that decision. Especially with all those hours precisely. That's there's no guy who can be, you can go through storms and wind situations but you don't know what's on the inside of that cloud which is why you were trained it says a couple things you don't do. You don't go in and if this is what happened there when you can go around

1:23:49 Well, this is... Yeah. That is no-no you must go around. No you do should right? You know must not should yet must I was in Texas coming out of Texas once and that we were on some flight and there was some nimbuses but they weren't the big mud there would they were just as though it was just a huge pocket of tons of clouds and the pilot I guess was given to go Eddie he warned everybody yeah that he's going to go around all these clouds And it'll be for about a half an hour. And it was one of the greatest flights I've ever had because we were banking and we go around. You're looking at these clouds right off the side of plane, beautiful. Yeah and then you banked the other way and go around another one... It was one of the most pleasant flights that I've ever had there was no turbulence he didn't hit any of the clouds but he was just going around and around it was quite entertaining! And you get to see these clouds out the window nasty-looking some of them Well I find them quite beautiful really

1:24:49 Yeah, some of them are but even you know you can eat so that if the tops are still below 40 thousand feet You can go over them although usually not recommended because they can all of a sudden it's 50 thousand feet They can go pretty quick But I find it just beautiful to watch now someone in the chat room. Just pointed out. You know today's planes Do a lot of flying themselves? Maybe this was not a pilot decision. I don't know maybe there was an Airbus God knows what this plastic plane is thinking Running I think I can do it running Windows NT Hey

1:25:25 Yeah, there you go. So anyway I just wanted to make sure that everyone heard my... I think it's good that you did this. Just so we have a little more information and now if we can all go back to looking at Richard Queston just visualizing him with his nutsack tied around to his neck with the dildo in his boot and meth in his pocket being arrested in New York City Because that's all I can think of when i see the guy. Well, it is pretty disgusting! No you don't know that have you ever done meth? I'm not gonna do meth. Just no I didn't think so just asked if you had ever done it. No I've never done meth okay alright It's just a bit like taking too much amphetamines

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Methamphetamine vs. Adderall, WWII Benzedrine

A discussion on the chemical similarities between methamphetamine and prescription Adderall leads to a historical look at amphetamine use. The hosts note that "Benny's" (Benzedrine) were distributed like candy to Navy gunners during World War II to keep them alert, comparing the jumpy side effects to modern "tweaking."

methamphetamine· adderall· benzedrine· world war ii· amphetamines

1:26:08 How do you know? It makes you feel like a million bucks. It's an amphetamine! They're all the same, it's all from the same family of drugs Really?! I thought meth was some hallucinogenic crazy crap No it's just another amphetamine Methamphetamine is what it is only in form of crystalline substance but still meth is good...it's Adderall homemade Oh so it just makes you jumpy makes you jumpy, makes you feel good. Oh that's why they call him tweeter. I can fight that guy! Yeah exactly That's not what Adderall does. No Adderall has been blended back to do other things

1:26:50 But it's still amphetamines. It's not good, these things are not good drugs These are horrible drugs They were given out freely in the 40s apparently Meth? Methamphetamine? No, not...it was benzadrine Ah, Benny's! Benny's! That was the original Apparently when you're in the Navy during World War II You just go to the supply room and get handful of these things so that you can shoot the guns Like M&M'S Nice I have a let's go back in time. Okay? Oh hold on a second We want to do that properly don't we Do you know what year we're going back to we're going back well this in this case, we're going It's probably further back than this but the flip were going back to is from 2013 going back in time to 2013 From John C. Dvorak I can't remember

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Liberty's Kids, 2010 Terrorist Attack Prediction

The hosts revisit a 2010 Senate Intelligence Committee hearing where Senator Dianne Feinstein asked officials about the likelihood of a terrorist attack within six months. They analyze the responses from Dennis Blair, Leon Panetta, and Robert Mueller, characterizing their "certain" predictions as a tactic to maintain public fear without providing specific evidence.

liberty's kids· dianne feinstein· dennis blair· leon panetta· 2010 hearing

1:27:48 I'm not happy about the fact that we don't get these clips like this as much as we used to and i'm going to try to change that because I think this is one of the great clips ever on the show. And, I want to remind people that with the show has been doing this for seven years and we've been digging up stuff like this for your entertainment purposes... a kids show, this is the kids children's cartoon show called Liberty Kids that was showing the history of the United States and during the revolution and it had all kinds of cool propaganda in it. And it was very entertaining but there were occasionally crazy stuff that you know board writers put in to see if they can get through the censors. There's nothing seditious about an intelligent woman wanting

1:28:29 That's for black dick to decide That's what the sailors call I don't know how give us black dick and we feel nothing Nice Give us black dick and we have nothing to fear or something like that? I think this evolved into something Christina and Mickey and I started doing at Nobu in Los Angeles. Although, this is... no wait maybe it was 2013? No, we weren't in Los Angeles We would go to Nobu and ask for Black Cock

1:29:21 I have one, but this comes with a little bit of a... A little setup. This is 2010. This is a clip that you often, often I say have called for. This is the clip where Dianne Feinstein asks this panel including it starts off actually with the who was Blair guy? Wasn't he the director Intelligence? Yeah, it had all the top directors. It had the head of the army they headed a chief of staffs that intelligence guy CIA guy I don't know if the NSA was there and then Chief of Intelligence it was all of them They're all sitting there at a Senate hearing so hold on a second as we go back in time to 2010

1:30:17 All right, here we are 2010. Now Dave Jones sent me a note to accompany this clip what is your belief that this clip says? John? That we're going to have an attempt at...a terrorist attempt in the United...in the homeland in the next six months And the question she asks is the following. What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the US homeland in the next three to six months? Three to six months, this was of course 2010. Now I've always thought these all guys immediately went and said oh yeah definitely it's happening

1:31:00 That's not exactly how it gets set up and Dave Jones says he believes that this Blair guy is a genius The way he deflected the question and set up all the other answers here. It is high or low Director Blair an attempted attack the priority is certain an attempted attack Well, you listen to the whole thing He says an attempt to detect the priority as certain yep exact player An attempted attack, the priority is certain I would say. What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything but it's beside the point They're scaring the public Mr Panetta...I would agree with that Mr Muller...agree General Burgess Yes ma'am, agree So yes no but its better because they are scaring the public by not really saying anything scary Well yeah That's great! Uh..I guess if you want to call THAT great

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Strait of Hormuz, 2012 Iran War Scare

A look back at January 2012 highlights the media-driven fear that Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz, potentially crippling the global oil supply. Judith Miller is featured warning of an escalation into full-blown military conflict. The hosts dismiss these past alarms as "bullcrap" designed to keep the public agitated.

strait of hormuz· iran· judith miller· oil prices· act of war

1:32:02 But it's still the same old thing that we've been following on this show, which is needless frightening of the public. Yes! In fact they have... What was the one? What do you think in fact this one I forgot all about in 2012 Uh-huh Do oh hold on, do we need to go to 2012? Yeah, 2012 Hold on a second We need to travel and now January 2012 There we go Ladies and gentlemen, we now travel back in time to January 2012 What was the big fear in January 2012? I have a clip here with Judith Miller kind of outlining what she thinks about it. This is part of about foreclosed, but let me outline and let me say

1:32:39 say what it was, so you can then... the clip makes some sense. In January 2012 we're being scared to death by our own government that they were gonna- that the Iranians were going to bomb the crap out of the Strait of Hormuz and wrecked the world's economy any minute! But Iran has been flexing its muscle, Judith now for years and years and years. I mean they threatened us like four or five times a week why this time are we paying such close attention to this threat? Well because in fact one-fifth of all the world's oil moves through the Strait of Hormuz and because let's face it Trace if they actually carried through on this threat

1:33:20 It would be regarded by many states as an act of war, and this situation could escalate very quickly into full-blown military conflict in a very sensitive part of the world. So it is something that the administration is watching very closely." Oh man! That was good times. Good times... This is kind of bullcrap we always forget about these old These crazy things that make the public nutty. And it's good- Straight of her moves, it was gonna be bombed! What were we gonna do? This is almost as realistic as the Stargate in the Gulf of Aden... Which I still believe will happen one day. Yeah, you know what's gonna come out of that stargate? What? Fish

1:34:07 Thank you, we'll be here all week everybody. Okay can I bring us back into today's world for just a little bit? Yeah i'l do this more later in the show. Yes very good. And now ladies and gentlemen welcome back to 2015! There you go, we're back. All right. I've got it the way I wanted to say a couple of things about...I do have a list of events that took place in 2014 that everyone seems like forgotten about and it's like there was big news at the time and now nobody cares. But I can't travel back to 2014? We just got to 2015! Right so but I want to... Can you hold on to it?

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Word of the Year, Jake Gyllenhaal

The hosts play a clip of actor Jake Gyllenhaal repeatedly using the word "amazing" during an interview. They mock the overuse of the word in Hollywood and debate whether "selfie" or "amazing" truly defines the current linguistic era.

jake gyllenhaal· word of the year· amazing· golden globes· selfie

1:34:51 I know this is something else. Okay, I do have a word of the year that i think will continue through 2015 but you have to guess what it is! Word of the year okay and you're going and it's not essentially... hold on a second word of the year All right. You have to guess the word, and this is Jake Gillianthal or whatever his name is the actor on The Today Show and he says the Word of The Year a number of times you have to figure it out what the word is So I get to play the clip and then guess? Yeah! The clip was only 12 seconds long He must say the millionth time Can I guess the word before I play the clip then? Sure Okay so the word could be... Is it a word we've used on this show? Yeah all the time

1:35:46 We try not to use it. Is it yeno? No, that's not a word. Oh thats right. Is it essentially I said to introduce the segment It's not essentially sorry well angry The minute you introduced the segment my brain was already thinking and couldn't listen anymore Well this is not new You get one more guess okay now that your guessing you're going to be extremely annoyed because you didn't get it Yeah I know I said, yeah. I know that's what i want to say you but you don't. I know. You know.

1:36:27 Mean the easy guess would be selfie, but I think that can't be right no No And the fact that it works just first and foremost is such an amazing feeling It gets acknowledged in any way is pretty amazing But the Golden Globe is even cooler because my sister got nominated too so that's pretty amazing Doosh knuckle made this word of the year they did oh It's not an official thing yeah, you fool it's no agenda official. Okay? That's right well I got something I'd be you know but I did one of those and There's the na things You know like ah I gotta go look at thee who are these people okay? Go on all right for all yours shows yours

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Kim Jong-un, North-South Korea Peace Talks

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's New Year's speech expressing openness to peace talks with South Korea is discussed. The hosts suggest that actual reunification would be "bad for sales" for the global military-industrial complex, which relies on regional tension to sell hardware to Japan and the Philippines.

kim jong-un· south korea· reunification· arms sales· shinzo abe

1:37:08 You say take the wheel curry. Take the wheel curry and drive it Drive that stuff first we have this report which continues This is so under reported This is euro news North Korea's leader has used a New Year speech to announce that he's open to resuming peace talks with South Korea As the North remains under the spotlight over claims of cyber threats against the US, Kim Jong-un spoke on state television. The comment comes days after South Korea proposed to restart dialogue. And there you go this is the reunification talks continue which as we know is very bad for sales

1:37:50 This is not good. They need to stop talking about this because... Right, otherwise arms sales will be reduced in the tank. In the tank! But we have to sell- Yeah you lose money on this. And we have to sell to Japan? Because Abe has changed the constitution We have to sell to South Korea because they're taking over OPSEC Probably Philippines would be a good market Tons of, even China maybe. You know who knows? They probably just casually would be a great market. Right right for some of the outliers. Hey man! Okay so the FBI as we all know has been brought into question

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Norse Corp, Sony Hack Attribution Debate

The FBI's attribution of the Sony hack to North Korea is challenged by cybersecurity firm Norse Corp, which suggests an insider was involved. The hosts deconstruct Norse Corp's board of directors—noting connections to the DOD and the music industry—and mock their "IPViking" live attack map as a flashy sales tool designed to scare unsophisticated clients.

norse corp· fbi· sony hack· north korea· dark viking· ip viking

1:38:29 regarding their forensics they presented. And we have this one company, and this of course is the company I looked into who says no no i'm sorry you're wrong FBI! You are wrong and let's hear...this is a short bit where the FBI is just holding on to what they think is right with a step-in for the State Department Uh, who is it? Jeff Rathke. So both the girls are out And Jeff Rathke is the one now having to hold down the fort. The confusion is that a private company called Norse combed through the malware that helped hackers access and erase so much confidential information on Sony servers, and they concluded that a lot of detailed insider information only available to a Sony employee was used in the hack. Now one of the cyber intelligence

1:39:24 And experts from Norse told FoxNews.com they briefed the FBI about their findings for two or three hours on Monday in St Louis, but the FBI is still blaming North Korea and so is the State Department. The United States government has concluded that the North Korean government is responsible for this attack and we stand by that conclusion And there are other private security firms who share the FBI's conclusions that North Korea is responsible. So this debate is not over." Now when I heard that... Who are these other security officials? Right, so when I heard that I didn't really care so much but now I cared a lot more about this Norse outfit Have you looked at Norse- Well we talked about this on the last show where I went online and looked at these guys You brought up Norse before! I don't think we actually looked at board of directors

1:40:16 I don't think we looked at a board of advisors. I don't believe we looked at that and we certainly did not discuss the dark Viking tool, but they use...that they used to prove if you go to Norse-Corp.com. Yeah there now as a matter of fact. Okay Yeah, I looked at it. We didn't go into this. You were already discussing Norris and I found these guys to be a bunch of sales clowns and some miscellaneous guys. They obviously got out in front of this whole thing and pushed it to get a bunch of free publicity when we were citing some

1:40:55 some blogs done by real security experts that had already deconstructed this to show as bogus. And so I guess Norse jumped on board. I just want to point out the people, because we did not discuss specifics... No, we didn't. We passed it over. Okay. So we have the most interesting ones are Robert F. Lentz, president of Cyber... these are board directors... Cyber Security Strategies so he's in a think tank that advises people to use these guys He was the former security officer for the Department of Defense

1:41:34 where he oversaw the department's $3 billion cybersecurity program. Yeah, that's the guy you want on board! Then there is Howard A Bain III which I can only think is a Bain man... But then this is interesting Henry Marks This is the entertainment company connection they brought in a guy who his...I love his bio and because you can see how a Silicon Valley firm goes yeah this guys great we need him on the board He's the president of Big Deal Records LLC. Whenever someone has a company and it's like, hey my company is Big Deal Records LLC It's like uh yeah okay that's not so great And Music Force Publishing LLC with over 40 years in the independent record industry His management expertise has guided the careers of artists as diverse as Bobby Caldwell Ain't he like who? Yeah Laura Branigan Who's dead

1:42:33 The Tower of Power, which barely exists anymore. Well they don't the original band definitely doesn't yeah and his marketing expertise has guided many artists to the top of the billboard charts and then here it is but here's the example which brings in his collaboration with Bobby Caldwell the hit song by Peter Cetera and Amy Grant whoo I mean, you didn't just it's not like something Neil Diamond boss. The question is what's this guy got to do with computer security bullshit? He he's a connection to Hollywood that this company apparently thinks is great. This is one of those companies. It's not Jimmy Iovine so we put it that way if you'll also look at Tommy Stinson, chief technology officer attended HIV the University of Bergen Norway

1:43:22 attended, studying computer science. He didn't even get a degree! Now look at the advisors we have Anthony Bargar, industry veteran thought leader I want to be that Hi my name is Adam Curry and I'm a thought leader in podcasting he's a thought leader in cyber security Can you get... Is that a title? Can you use that, Thought Leader?" You can put anything you want on your business card. I know but I like it. He served in senior positions within the financial services sector of the United States Department of Defense and intelligence community. Okay then we have down here, we have The Venture Guy, The Money Guy is always on the board or an advisor

1:44:04 some guy from Prudential Insurance, which is probably good to have in there. Now the reason I say this because this company has been co-founded by some... what's his name? Norwegian dude Tommy Stiansen he's the co-founder and CTO and he developed this product which is called... I gotta do it right! His product is called Dark Viking So Dark Viking, I'm sorry. Dark Viking is a product that is a black box that sits in the cloud and can see all these attacks and if this is what I discovered If you go to this website people in the chat room listen to the stream right now Norse-corp.com N O R S E dash corp dot com at the top it says watch live attacks You must click on this John

1:45:01 You see the little button? I just missed it first time around. Uh-huh, yeah Yeah, and click on it And it takes you to map dot IP Viking calm as you can see I bet you this works too! I bet you that their companies go oh my god look at these attacks are taking place in real time And it has like a scroll here, and you can see it's coming from China. This is very good! This is fantastic! Now this is funny because this is very similar to what I saw maybe five or six years ago at Panda Software in Barcelona It's probably the same thing... It may be the same code but look at that look at the right attack targets country United States 10 11 113 116

1:45:41 And 2 to mil dash slash gov and it's HTTP port 80 attacks John. What are we gonna do? This is This is the biggest piece of... This is a gem. This is the biggest piece of bullshit I have seen in a long time! It's a gem! And you can see, notice that all of the flying attack packets are all inbound on the United States There's nothing going out to like Iran or anything from us But it's all inbound to us

1:46:17 We are under, John we are under fucking attack my friend. It looks like there is a- it looks like they're being bombed And you know by who? Attack origins. It's mostly China Well from the US, China Mexico but right up there the Netherlands hello Netherlands The Dutch are attacking us John I'm just seeing an attack right now coming in from Iceland Oh my goodness! Iceland has got a packet coming in and its about to hit Deflect deflect deflect deflect shields! Shields! Put on shields It's going right to Washington State. Oh, here comes one from Latvia it looks like or Estonia. One lone packet. Yeah? One packet deflect shield! This is this... That's what you need a boink-a-boink flashing thing that blocks it yeah We should have we should be able to control this actually I yeah this is one of the great greatest web pages ever But here's the thing now we've been looking at this for how long two three minutes

1:47:19 I'm looking at the leaderboard. Look at the leaderboard, I do not see any North...I see South Korea attacking us but i don't see any North Korea and have we just thwarted them? Yes so we put him in their place But these Chinese man that looks like they're hammering us Yet it seems like we attack ourselves the most yes We apparently are attacking ourselves according to this list Suicide mission Well, actually... Yeah. 315 to China's 271 right now. So when I see this, of course this is bullshit. Mexico? Hey! Juan stop that. This is... Sure packets fly all over the place but anyone who looks at this who knows anything and says yeah we're under attack then you're a moron

1:48:18 This is the stupidest thing. It's kind of a it's a way in a way, a throwback to war games you know what I mean? I like it! It's beautiful. It's a sales tool of all sales tools. Real time. This is real! This was genius So, I'm thinking these guys are in on this game somehow. These are not just guys popping up because they got DOD, they've got advisors so they are maybe the chosen ones possible? I don't know... Are they public? No, I don't think it's public. Joe Masini No, Oak Investments is their number one funder and they haven't gone public yet. Adam Chapnick Is Oak big? Are those big? Joe Masini No, it's not that I know of unless it might be big in the Defense Department sphere. Adam Chapnick They may be.

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Sony Recovery, US-PER-2 News Organization

Details emerge regarding Sony's manual recovery process, including the use of old BlackBerrys and dot-matrix printers to cut paper checks. The FBI has reportedly warned an unnamed news organization, code-named "US-PER-2," that they may be the next target of the "Guardians of Peace" hackers.

sony· fbi· phone tree· dot matrix· wolf blitzer

1:49:01 So then there's a second part to this report that I had not heard yet. The FBI is warning in the new bulletin that this news organization referred to only as US per 2 may be getting the Sony treatment from these hackers soon, from a bulletin on 20 December the GOP guardians of peace posted pastebin messages that specifically taunted the FBI and this news organization for all tree to spread the word of updates on their network being restored. One person would call another, that person calls somebody else they've got 6,000 employees so no small undertaking. Gmail accounts and old BlackBerrys that could connect to the network were also utilized and the payroll department started cutting paper paychecks with an old machine they took out of storage Sony's still recovering so the FBI obviously taking the threat to this unnamed news organization very seriously

1:50:10 By the way, since this is news organization. He was unnamed yes It's a code name with the code named us all uppercase USP er2 So would it that implies us I would say us expert Well, I hope they... What I would like. First of all this is of course really tech news because it's about a phone tree so it's about phones so we get to talk about... Phone tree. SkipLogic phone tree. Hey get that check printer out of storage like they'd keep it and does anyone know how to hook up this old check printer to an AS400? It's dot matrix. Does anybody know how to hook this thing up?

1:50:58 Does it have a USB port? No, what was that big plug with the... Some IEEE port. No no no. SCSI! That's the one, SCSI. That thing was bigger than my head. Can anyone find a SCSI port on your regular printer here? I can't find it. The ham radio guys still have serial ports please If they're going to attack a news organization, here would be my dream scenario. Wolf Blitzer's head explodes Wouldn't that be perfect? Well, I don't know how that would even be possible. Well with the same magic that Kim Jong-un's head exploded in the movie... Oh! I see what you're saying By the way, That was the first time i've ever heard Kim Jong Un speak and he didn't sound like a little feeble boy as he always described him He sounded like a man saying hey And if there is anybody who has a full clip of his Christmas speech and can translate or translated verse I'd love to know what he said

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Port 8009, Tomcat Manager Exploits

A technical dive into common server exploits focuses on Port 8009, the default for the Apache JServe protocol and Tomcat manager interface. The hosts discuss how unsophisticated "probed attacks" often target these known vulnerabilities, alongside Microsoft's Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) on Port 3389.

port 8009· tomcat· apache jserve· rdp· cyber security

1:52:04 You know, have we ever... We have some Korean listeners. But it's an old-fashioned form of Korean. Right but have we ever seen Kim Jong Un in a full speech that has been translated? I can't recall! What's the point?! Why would anyone do that!? Well no you don't want that. WE want that! It's not gonna happen. We wanted but there's obviously nobody wants it in this system that intends on selling the South Koreans a bunch of garbage. I'm sorry high tech gear to protect themselves yeah But you notice at the bottom of this thing there's like a barcode that scrolls. It's kind of cool on to watch live attacks Yeah, and down below that it's like a colored barcode when I check turn it off I'm gonna try this seems to be a lot of activity on port 8000 all the colored barcode yeah This is going to be a lot of I'm looking at the attack types This is kind of cool a lot of

1:53:00 So they're just using known ports or 80 HTTP then they have 8080 which is you know alternative HTP 23 telnet really someone's using talent well Maybe for routers. I thought yeah, it was all SSH by now then they have eight port 8009 What who what or who uses port? 8009 because that's getting a lot of attacks Dude name Ben. I'm sure there's a dude named, so we have the SSH for 22 Which anyone in their right mind doesn't use standard ports for SSH but okay Oh VoIP hmm Yeah it's 8009 the forgotten Tomcat port That's like the oldest exploit in the book Really?

1:53:43 The fun and forgotten thing is that you can also access that manager interface on port 8009. Isn't Tomcat like a web management application? I don't know... Man, I thought it was! I'm not a real port guy 8,000 nine year me read about here's a whole web page about it. I thought Tom cat that using war files WAR Exploring tomcat usually involves accessing the tomcat manager interface on tomcat HPP HTTP 5 and it's a job of base web server That's what it is fun and forgotten thing as you can also access You can also access them at that

1:54:19 That manager interface on port 8009 in the port that by default handles the Apache Jserve protocol. Yeah, there you go It's a bit server side job web server yeah So that's their big that whoa we're going after the Tomcats! Yeah, that's gonna really do it. They don't take him down and what is MSWB at Microsoft obviously? What does it WBT server on 3-3? What is that three three eight nine I think It's kind of small. So there is a Microsoft WBT server, these are all known and another unknown just popped up 49156 This I find interesting because these seem to be very unsophisticated

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Regin Malware, Belgacom Hack

The "Regin" (or "Regen") malware framework is identified as a highly sophisticated spying tool likely operated by US and British intelligence (GCHQ). The malware was famously discovered within the systems of Belgian telecommunications provider Belgacom. Symantec reports that the tool uses a five-stage attack process to monitor targets in the energy, research, and hospitality sectors.

regin· belgacom· symantec· kaspersky· gchq· nsa

1:55:05 Probed attacks if this map is anything of anything real Okay, three three eight nine and a mize bull 3389 is RDP which is remote desktop protocol. Okay that makes sense the That's what that's for okay to try and bring up a remote best desktop I guess this kind of brings us into, so you sent me the link and of course there's been a lot of stories but not a lot of real information. But to know that we're at least looking at this and are trying on it is this... How do you pronounce it? Do you think it's Regin or Regin? Is it R-E-G-I-N? Yeah, REGIN. I have no idea how to pronounce it. I always just call it Regan. Well, we need to claim the official pronunciation now

1:55:53 Because I can do people will say oh, there's no agenda show says Pronounced ray. You know see I think it's reg in because the I think the are you region? Because that's part of the registry and it seems like this baby This does attach itself in at some port attaches itself to Windows Regis registry Seth Regin. Oh here it is and it's already re-gen, regen. The semantics got a pronunciation they call it regen. R E G E N pronounced r e g e n. Re-gen They say region? Regen. Although the way they have it here could be re-gen No because then it would be gif. I think it would be gen. Regen. Oh wait here It is S in let me just open this

1:56:42 We've already, the claim has been long. This thing's been around for a while it just nobody knows what it is. Yeah well what is interesting and this is just a small part of what I've been reading about it is that this was so first of all its being said that this is US and Israeli intelligence That seems to be in overarching agreement by the Kasperskys of the world And the second part is that this was really tracked down big time at the Belgium hack, which wasn't talked about a lot. Now I know or Belhacom is how you would really pronounce it. Of course, Belgium Brussels are very important to when you're making international calls in fact, I think a lot of calls cell phone calls internationally, a lot of them already are routed through Belhacom for some reason I read

1:57:37 So it's kind of like a super hub and they don't want to talk about it anymore because they say, oh this is old news for us. Don't look at us anymore. It's all cleaned up but I find the idea of a framework an entire platform that has been... Is this not just the long heralded legend of the Microsoft Windows backdoor? That maybe it wasn't a back door or maybe it's just really a framework that they built into this that has always been there? I have no idea. I mean, well, I've been reading that white paper and I've looked into this and it seems to be nobody that's a high-end security analyst has made...has been able to explain it. It looks like a framework with a lot of programmable characteristics perhaps buttons

1:58:31 Check boxes, I don't know how it works but... Check boxes? Oh no! Extremely powerful and if you want to go do something specific. The powerful check box Well you put a check, yes that's the way, who else is there? You can't build one of these things For people who have high-end coders, you wanna build it for some guys in an office that doesn't know much more than check boxes. And so you go through and you have the master code that actually is uncompiled and then you check a bunch of things then you compile in off it goes to do whatever it has to do. That seems to me to be the way you would structure something like this. Yeah I agree well we got our eye on it. No one seems to know how to use it

1:59:20 Except apparently the people who broke into Belhacom. Yeah, I know it's kind of a you there we go haha nailed you one more time yeah No, no it's one of those things that You know we can call stuff being is being used and no apparently It also hides well so it could be on your machine for all we know right now Sending this show to somebody well that would be handy Distribute for me This of course all falls under the protectorate of the Grand Dukes or Stephen Pelsmacher, so I think he should be sending out orders. So the Minions can figure it out! So this is as far we get with our analysis of regen and according to this it's pronounced region as in regenerate. So its regen. Yeah but it's spelled with an I that's strange How do you pronounce the word gin?

2:00:24 Well, Jin region not regenerate would be regen for the slight difference. It should be region I would say I'm agreeing with you it should be region not region and region Yeah, why is a wire these guys claiming in that way? I don't like that this is according to Symantec yeah I don't know named it. I don't like that whoever discovers these things gets the name of them well I don't like Let me read from this article on this thing. Okay, Symantec said Regen monitors its targets with a rarely seen level of sophistication internet service providers and telecommunications companies make up the bulk of those that are initially infected

2:01:08 The researcher said, region then targets individuals of interest in the hospitality... What? The hospitality energy research and airline industry among others that are served by those same ISPs. Regions operators continue to use infected companies as a springboard to gain access to more individuals." You know it sounds like a Trojan some sort It does this is not a good explanation. No more than half of observed attacks have targeted Russia and Saudi Arabia Semantics, which is why it's supposedly us then or the Israelis or something of that ilk Yeah, that's yeah The rest are scattered across Europe Central America Africa and Asia the initial infection came from a variety of sources such as copies of popular websites over web browsers and USB drives That have been plugged into contaminated systems

2:02:01 Region has five attack stages. It begins with an initial drop called the Trojan horse or backdoor breach that allows it to exploit the security vulnerability while avoiding detection. Avoiding detections? Avoiding Texans! Yeah, well that too... The first stage deploys what is called a loader and okay this is just meaningless. Okay all right so you know what we have alerted We have alerted our dudes named Ben and people will get back to us. We got a lot of really smart people I have Cisco router logins and logs of North Korean traffic which from are some of our dudes name been kind of shows that yeah They're they had no transit they had no connectivity for a while at least according to these logs in North Korea

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Sacred Texts, Tragedy and Hope

The hosts enumerate the "Sacred Texts" of the No Agenda show, including *Confessions of an Economic Hitman* by John Perkins and *Family of Secrets* by Russ Baker. A major focus is placed on Carroll Quigley's *Tragedy and Hope*, a 1,300-page history of the world that details the operations of the Federal Reserve and global banking systems.

carroll quigley· russ baker· john perkins· neil postman· economic hitman

2:02:52 And they show all the Russian satellite connections and the Chinese. We got some interesting people listening to this program. Yes, it's something good to listen too! I wanted to bring this up...I got an email that was kind of a nice one in the morning to you This is from Rich he has fortheloveoftech.com podcast I think there is a podcast too In the morning to Adam Tiberius Curry thankyouforyourcourage The Christmas episode was great Because of the Christmas episode I bought Confessions of an Economic Hitman on Audible. Now, did you use the code TWIT2? Now I finally know what you guys are talking about when you talk about Economic Hitman! Fantastic book and now he's referring to so what other sacred texts are there now that i'm done with this one He says he also got Brave New World and Babbitt. Babbitt is not really a secret text it was just something we discussed recently. Brave New World would be a sacred text

2:03:51 And he says also is the no agenda show based on confessions of an economic hitman? Well, I think some of our thinking may be based on general premise. At the end of the book He starts talking about how we have to ask the important questions and such The whole audiobook seems like a No Agenda Show zero that's number zero not hashtag zero gotcha What do you think has happened to the EU? He says toward the end he talks, the whole thing relies on the US dollar being most important currency. If another currency came along that was stronger than a dollar, the whole system would fall apart. He says that currencies is the euro. Do you think that's what started all of the troubles over there? The jackals well no but I thought...I think we have not

2:04:34 Officially compiled these sacred this is the first time you brought the term up sacred text. Well, I think what's of no agenda books that what is the family secrets Russ Baker? Right? That's another one family secrets is great Legacy of ashes ashes Yeah, and I think pot shards should be in there just to keep them absolutely it's totally totally belongs there Now there's a book, if you really like reading... Well how about It Couldn't Happen Here? Very good book. Life and Death in Shanghai I would put that in there. That is another sacred text yes. Nice book. We have The Merck Index Yes! Hell yeah

2:05:22 But my browser just dropped dead. So I can't look up this book. Yeah, it says Nien Chang is life and death in Shanghai. Sinclair Lewis It Can't Happen Here Russ Baker Family of Secrets Pot Shards by Donald P Gregg Is there another one that i'm thinking of? One Day In Gitmo Nation from Sir Scott McKenzie Maybe do it Thomas Woods notification is that that's not really that's more like a I like that book. I don't think it's good to understand I don't think it's a sacred text no, and I don't think so But I think I would look for I'm trying to get the name of his book Carol Quigley Wrote a history of the United States that or actually history of the world That I think is really good reading Oh what does he would by the way? I would put on there Neil Postman

2:06:17 Amusing ourselves to death. I would, i think that would be...that qualifies. I've never read it Well then it doesn't qualify if you've never read it And you haven't read this either which is uh..I've read this book The Quigley book? Oh no no, amusing ourselves to death No quiggly book what is the uh no I have not read that It's a huge monster Uh yeah oh hold on got another one garden of beasts Oh, the one with the Nazis? Yes. That is an outstanding book to read! Yeah... Is that Garden of the Beast or Garden of... I think it's Garden of Beasts isn't it? It's Garden of Something that's horrible and it's a real account of life in Nazi Germany in the 30s. Garden of Beasts yes. Outstanding book and we came to conclude that was important to read because

2:07:08 Think a couple years ago on the show we introduced the concept that what would it be like? What is it the day-to-day life that were having today's this anything like Nazi germ like Nazi Germany in so far as oh Yeah, just the way. It is don't worry about it. Oh yeah, are we gonna get they hate us common sense? That's right I think the book is this one. Eric Larson is who wrote it. Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World in Our Time, and it's a 1348 page just dynamite product. And the great thing about this by Carol Quigley... Carol Quigley? I'm buying this right now! Somebody turn me on to this. Is you can read like the Bible. You do not have to start

2:07:54 on page one and start reading. I mean, i would read the first couple of chapters or at least the intro in chapter one but you can jump around and it's just filled with cool stuff. I am going to give myself a present and this is a very expensive book now you can rent it from Amazon! You want to buy the hardcover? 35 bucks Yeah, it's not too bad. It is a beauty. It is a gem. I mean, it talks about the Federal Reserve System and how it works... Does it have pictures? No. There are two in there of course otherwise it would be terrible. Although 1300 pages with no pictures.

2:08:38 Uncle Don's book has a lot of pictures. Did you know that? Yeah, I saw it and have a copy Have you have you read the book? I have perused the book. I've not read it Right now in the process of reading Sid Caesar's autobiography You know what strange when when you look at the shipping address for If your ship to a friend or anything on Amazon yeah this stays on there forever Yeah And just a couple people here that are dead Oh, yeah, it's little strange Don't put me on that list. You don't want to be on my list, man this is not a good place to be

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Bill McKibben, 2014 Hottest Year Claims

Environmentalist Bill McKibben claims 2014 was the hottest calendar year on record, citing irreversible melts in the West Antarctic ice sheet. The hosts contrast this with the "Polar Vortex" news from the previous year and mock media portrayals of residents in Jasper, Alabama, struggling with extreme cold.

bill mckibben· global warming· polar vortex· jasper alabama· climate change

2:09:22 Right. Well, that's good! Yes? You were going to say... I was gonna say if we go back to January 2014... Ohhhhhhhhhh.... I don't think you need to do the intros anymore. Okay alright This is what the news was about last year at this time and this I play only because well let me play them current clip which is Bill Kibble, play this clip Bill Kibble just won some award the alternate Nobel Prize award or something at some phony award and bill kibbles the guy who just retired as the head of 360 dot or 340 345 whatever it is you know that little organization He's like one of the two main guys about global warming. Oh, that's 350 420 Dude its 420 do it all right play yeah

2:10:16 Yeah, Bill Kibble. As we meet here today the world is almost done with what will be the hottest calendar year in all the years that we have measured temperatures 2014 saw the warmest temperatures by far ever recorded in the northern Pacific It was also the year when we learned tragically that the melt of the West Antarctic ice sheet is now irreversible 25 years ago when I wrote the first book-length account of this crisis, none of these wounds could have been predicted but that's because scientists are conservative. The damage has outpaced their forecasts every ocean including the one outside these doors is now 30% more acidic than a generation to go Yeah and 5,000 feet higher water level It's terrible what's going on

2:11:11 This time last year, it was the polar vortex. Yes! It was... We're all freezing to death everybody was a mess and of course I had a lot of clips on it but only took this one clip because I figured that while you're in the process of slamming the story to everyone that you're going to freeze to death any minute Let's go to Alabama where it is extremely cold and let us do what the media loves to do, we point out every so often. And make the southerners look like they are biggest dummies ever! The cold is expected to reach into the deep south all the way to Jasper, Alabama and Tawana Blaze's house. We hate wood and that's about how we eat with this wood and kindling to keep warm And we put the chicken inside the duck and then we put the duck inside the turkey? And we put a big beer can upside his butt and then we eat thats good eating Want some queso

2:12:13 Let's make sure we keep these memes intact everyone in the south is an idiot. Yeah, and they live on kindling Kindling! And you can barely talk in there They're in a shack I know one tooth The B-roll of this was always dynamite because it was just literally a shack that was on kind of Cinder blocks. I'm loving it man great fantastic You know, back in 2014...actually back to 2013 we were doing a lot more of this. People say well you know all your show does is ridicule. Yes. Just ridicule each other even yes We ridicule a lot of things and but it's always changing so you never know what can I ask you a question?

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Gun Culture, Gender Politics in Media

An anecdote about an Australian woman's fear of Texas gun culture leads to a discussion on how political parties market themselves. The hosts argue that Democrats position themselves as the "safe" and "touchy-feely" party to appeal to maternal instincts, while criticizing MSNBC for failing to use ridicule effectively in their programming.

guns· australia· msnbc· democrats· gender politics

2:12:53 Who says that to you always people are who everybody everybody says all you do is ridicule. Well, you get an email No It's like I mean not listening in the show because all you do is ridicules women who say this Women are mad and think we all we do is ridiculed This is my experience. I think you might be right about it. Don't know why I'd say that no guys like hey That was cool man. You weren't being nice Yeah there you got women who have children perhaps Last night there was an Australian girl who was three more months, about six months pregnant with her second child and she does not want to live here. I think they had their first kid

2:13:39 In Australia, the deal was with her Texas husband that they would live there. And so they lived there for five years and there was tension between these two and she was well back at the party. Oh yeah okay. She's Australian? Shes Texan? No she is Australian he is Texan Okay. And shes incredibly cute with a big big belly just everything you want in a pregnant Aussie just beautiful. Australian women are generally great looking Yeah But has something in there the way she talks that you just want to like, hey don't knife me. I know there's something nice about it and The guy is texting him he is not having this well You know we're here now and this I'm never going back to Australia She's saying well I really am my kids they could be a dual citizen They can get free health care if anything happens to them So I want to have this kid even in Australia in that she wants do a water birth and whatever

2:14:33 But Why did I even bring this up you were talking about? Right and so then And I'm told what do you like Texas yeah, but listen San Antonio which is not great. This is dirty and I agree san Antonios I'm sorry It's just doesn't if you can be in Austin or San Antonio You would choose Austin she can't choose for whatever reason he's in real estate And, you know so I bring up guns and she... because I said yeah well you know you- I liked you guys a lot until you gave up your guns. She freaked on me! I don't understand this gun culture that just makes no sense how can you have kids going out with- She was basically yelling about her husband they have a five year old boy. I don't understand why do five year olds have to go out hunting? Why did they have to learn how to kill things? Can't they wait until the 10th?!

2:15:31 It was so tense, man. But I think this kind of ridicule comes from a motherly thing because really what she's saying makes no sense other than she's projecting her fear that that, you know, her kid's head is gonna get shot off or something while they're out there hunting which is actually quite unlikely because he's learning gun safety at an early age. And her head has gone. But I think that's where it comes...women have a...if it's with children involved and they can...you don't wanna ridicule, you don't wanna piss anybody off, don't be bullied, don't say something nasty, don't say cuss words. The Democrats have honed in on this particular theory

2:16:09 which you obviously observe in real time, to get them to vote for Democrats. The Democrats are the safe party they're against guns they're against these things or their touchy-feely and they don't say mean things that which is one of the reasons that Democrats on That's the way MSNBC is always going to fail. In fact, all these liberal progressive... You hear that Al? Al! You're gonna fail. They have to fail because they can't be mean which gets attention and ratings. They can't be negative which gets ratings. for guns, it's all touchy-feely. They can't ridicule. It's all phony is what the problem is. They can't ridicule which gets ratings. You can't ridicule. Well we used to ridicule BS on television and there's an example here where you'd see this bull crap where somebody says oh there's the camera let's get another let's widened view

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

TV Science Tropes, Scorpion Viewership

The hosts mock the "enhance" trope in procedural dramas, specifically a clip from *Bones* involving a fictional Library of Congress font database. Despite the "idiotic" science, the show *Scorpion* is noted for its high viewership, pulling in over 10 million viewers on CBS.

bones· scorpion· cbs· library of congress· tv ratings

2:17:07 of the camera and maybe we can see or let's there is a mile away, there is the guy's license plate. Here push that... Oh like CSI rotate zoom enhance yes This was an enhanced kind of bull crap thing from the show Bones that I pulled in January 2013 Ah yes okay Being overweight could actually help you live longer I'm sorry Click the wrong one. You see, let me explain why this is complicated because you're giving me cues but typically I can look at your list and say oh it's going to be this one but here you've done classics. Yeah, you have to go past that part where its classics. Oh yeah, to the end of a sentence

2:17:51 Well, putting it to a controversial new study into the effects of obesity. Oh man I'm hitting the wrong one again here we go. Why that we should...Brennan! I was able to restore part of the text from the paper scraps that you sent me One contains a fraction 1 3rd and the letters A R G A R It comes from the word margarine and one third is a one-third cup The papers were from a cookbook. Eight different pages. Is there any way to tell which cookbook? Yeah, I ran the typeface through the Library of Congress database and I got the name and date of publication and tips on how to cook for prisoners It's the Gordon Institutional Recipe Index 1993 edition And Big Hit. This show had big hit What database in the Library of Congress of fonts?!

2:18:41 What? I don't know. Is there a Library of Congress database of fonts? Have you done any research on the topic? Do i have to well, you're asking the question maybe you should do some research before you start ridiculing Well we don't do that much anymore I think it was with the show Scorpion for a couple of shows and that was it. Because that was just idiotic! I have, and like McPhee...I like the whole concept. I liked the show It's a hit show. What? Scorpion?! Yeah Bull crap Alright But every single time we go through this conversation We look up the numbers And they're doing 8 million 9 million viewers No

2:19:27 I don't know where you're getting this from, it's a dog. That's okay if you like the show that's fine! No- I don't know why you'd like the show but... I told ya here Scorpion 10 point 45 million viewers Let's see the most recent ones Are they must be might be in repeats by now But yeah there between 8 and 10 million viewers John This is not a dog this is just not a dog I'm sorry It's not It's a bonanza Oh brother Well, luckily we never have to worry about that. We don't have to have meetings and sit down with the advertisers who go, uh yeah...we think you probably...um hi...we're from Ford and we think he would do much better if you cut back on the Tourette's talk. Tourettes people are not high in our demos so we really don't like that. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all of the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Procurement Poem, Regional Pronunciations

A listener in government procurement shares a rhyming poem about the legal restrictions on accepting holiday gifts. This sparks a debate on the pronunciation of "poem" versus "pome" and a challenge for the host to pronounce "milk," "Illinois," and "pillow" in a Chicago regional accent.

procurement· poem· illinois· milk· chicago style

2:20:29 All right, here we go. We do have some people to thank for show 683 including Mark Pugner who came in with a good old Mark. He's in Schaumburg, Illinois and definitely wants to be anonymous because he sends in postal mail orders. Wow! It's like you know what are those things called? A mail order bride, I mean a money order. Not a mail order bride. I didn't get the mail order bride, I rejected her. I'm already married 135, it's a post office thing. What do you call it? A money order, money grab, Western Union kind of thing. Yeah. 13579 which means something to him

2:21:14 And by the way when we mentioned that we can't mention the names because under $49 or 150 dollars You don't mention people, but when sir David Foley came in with 2015 I was at the dinner table last night and somebody mentioned Oh you must have gotten a lot of donations for twenty dollars and fifteen cents because that's the obvious yeah some text of the show right and One yeah then let me let me guess was this our marketing department who? Ashik L. Mousani in Muscat, Oman 1-2-3-4-5 he says, Fie El Sabah John and Adam your combined news... I have to read this your combined news analysis is wait a minute your combined news analysis is stupendous! Adam's zealousness for sound quality is phenomenal! John's grouchiness is stupefying

2:22:15 The synchronicity between you two is spectacular. You now have a few more words to use instead of... And I don't have it, that's where it ends for me. It ends? Okay. By the way Mark Pugner 13579 Yes Odd numbers Okay Oh yeah so they are Mark's always up to something Giles Pavot Gil He's from France, he'll be Gilles. It's from Paris? Yeah, France! His name is Gilles This is stunning to me. This is stupefying. It's stupefying Here's a donation for both Ending Well 2014 and my birthday today. He's on the list Can I get a job karma for we put that at the end for several upcoming exams with job karmas and exams? I don't know The Christmas deconstruction was great

2:23:14 That's the Christmas show. Brandon, we should do more things like that. Brandon Fenton in Colorado Springs $120 and 15 cents. We should have done one for today so I could be hanging... Well there is nobody listening. ...behaving with a hangover. Chad Inman in Los Angeles California 1-20-15. Sir Bashar Osman in Harrow Middlesex $111 and 50 cents. Matthew J Milligan in Boca Raton Florida 104 Sir Bernie Atima in Hinton, Iowa. $101 and 15 says ah here they are these are the people that came with 10115 which designates the New Years Sam Manor 10115 Box Hill South Victoria Australia Sir David Pugh in Massillon Ohio

2:24:08 Wayne Lacombe, Sandy Bank Hills in Queensland. These are all 10115s. Callan Nistore in Northville Michigan 10115 and finally Swicheroo here and Kevin Lacombe in Port Orchard Washington 101.10 and there's a note that came in I put it on there for a reason because I think there was something interesting in it this is mailed I mean, it's one thing when i can't figure out your clips but when you can't figure out your own system. It's a little... Whatever Merry Christmas fellas in addition to just sending uh Did you just whatever me? No! I wanted no-I didn't. I wanted to pass along a

2:24:59 A handout, Mike. Oh yeah he sent a poem that apparently was passed around the office that the government paid to have written. He works in procurement... I'm not gonna read the whole poem but i want to mention i'm going to scan it and put it in the next newsletter. Oh love that! How long is it? Well let me read you a couple of the first verses The holiday season at time for good cheer this is not a poem by the way it's a rhyme For eggnog and parties for friends to be near but I must be careful lest. I accept free a gift Not permitted no matter how we

2:25:38 Part 2635 of the 3 CFB explains in detail the relevant bar. It defines the term gift to mean all things worth money. That will assume that sound is The Hook. But this will be in the newsletter and I do want to point out since I heard you say it there are two sacred Not sacred text, but we pronounce measure as major and poem as po-em. What did I say? No you said poem that was beautiful! I loved it Yeah i say poem Poem and measure Now the one thing that people there's there's pome poem and poim

2:26:27 Poem that I would I would qualify poem valid as well. I don't like poem and the reason is because it was in high school somebody I never heard the pronunciation, but in high school somebody mentioned that they hated it And I said you hate what the pronunciation of poem as poem hmm? and I said I never heard that and I've never heard it since but then of course its Iran and Iran and Iraq Afghanistan Well, we do have a pronunciation thing coming up. Somebody wants... in fact I think it was Ramsey's thing in here? He wants me to pronounce three words. Okay. He wants me to pronounce milk, Illinois and pillow

2:27:19 Now he puts this in his notes specifically to get me to mispronounce the 8th m or to pronounce them Illinois style so it's not Illinois, it's Illinois Milk and pillow and don't forget Washington well Washington. I've never heard anyone actually do it all the time What you always say Washington weapon Washington Okay now alright well And there's no 10 million viewers for scorpion either Can you say milf? Milf? Milf. Alright, onwards... He wanted me to- I think he was trying to make fun of me knowing that I pronounce these in the Chicago style but i know how to pronounce the words correctly but I can do both so just to make it clear to this Wisconsinites who think is hilarious because they pronounce everything like that crazy talk yeah all right all right where was I don't know

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Global Producer Roll Call, Job Karma

The hosts read a final list of producers from around the world, including donors from Sydney, Munich, and Johannesburg. They grant "job karma" to several listeners starting new positions in early January and thank the "anonymous lesbian" for her continued support.

sydney· munich· johannesburg· saskatoon· producer credits

2:28:21 Was that the 101 or 102? Okay. Then we have David Bierce in Altoona, Iowa And 10101. And then we go to Gavin Boud in Sydney, New South Wales Australia $100 33 cents John Tharp 9999 Duval Washington Sir Jason of the Fox Valley Geneva Illinois $99 Sir Dennis Nutting $99 and Hilo Hawaii where there used to be this great airport Elizabeth Borazan in I think it's Dame? I'm not sure Tucson Arizona 88

2:28:58 I'm way behind on the jingles here. Yeah, okay? Yeah 8888 Eric Wilka in Rushaville Indiana Yes, yeah Eric is $70 Kevin McLaughlin in Locust North Carolina Swazant Nuff, 6969. Also Harry Reese in Nagoya Japan and he wants the Chemtrails to play and I think you might as well play it because we haven't played that for such a long time. He came in with 6969 Lucas Zuwa in Munich München Deutschland 6789 sent some cuss words to us William Smock

2:29:45 6234 in San Diego, California. James Wolfe 5927 Appleton New York Kevin Dills Charlotte North Carolina 55 double nickels on the dime J Jesse Simonen Double parts unknown 5510 Daniel Rudin Cedar Rapids Iowa Sorry for not donating in 2014 will start 2015 right? Birthday shout out he's a January 1st baby Capricorn And so he gets the gypped. Well, unless you're born in Uganda I think is more of a gyp. Chris Barton in... Yeah and then you're an African? Yes. 5510 Springfield Utah Andrew Aletto in Channel Islands Jersey wow! That's where all the money is

2:30:40 Uh, yeah. You know that's not even a... That's not even part of the UK! No it is his own place they got uh.. They have uh... But its its own place but it's not part of the... It's not even part of the globe I know they've got child abuse and banks and this and that Oh besides that but it's a protectorate of The Queen Yes but thats why there all the child abuse And in the uh... The orphanage up there Its a crazy place Yeah it was frightening Well it was supposed to be rather pretty Because it was a tourist attraction. Oh, yeah Jimmy's level is the great money laundering out of that place Yes money laundering and children smuggling well It was probably going on Mario Baptista in Johannesburg South Africa Joe Joe Berg South Africa Johanna nice Joberg Joburg he wants to put some karma at the end for him leaving the slave workplace doing pursuits pursue my dream job He's gonna be knight of the nation of africa well

2:31:38 Cool. Polis Solutions, LLC in Denver Colorado 5280 Christopher Dolan in Berlin Connecticut 5102 Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia gorgeous little town by the way $50 and 69 cents sir inside jobs in Seattle Washington 5033 Roger E Esty Esty in Palm Harbor Florida 51, 5015 which is a happy new year thing. William LaRock 5015 in Locust North Carolina he says he got donated 22222 for job karma wanted to say it worked I began my new job on January 5th let the people know that karma works! Karma works people! It's real! These people are...

2:32:29 You're really getting into that. Well ever since you said I was starting to sound good now, are you are but it's really got a have more than just There skin there and get okay these are all $50 donors want to wrap it up with anonymous in Milton Ontario Canada $50 Shane Rizzo ski Rozdilski in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada. Maxwell Frey Brooklyn New York Michael Salvagna in Southville Ontario Adam Pribola in Plymouth Michigan Dustin Martin and Salem Oregon Kirk Daniels in Hendersonville North Carolina Sir Scott Fuller in Cumming Georgia

2:33:16 Anonymous lesbian! Hey, there she is. Somewhere cold $50. Sir Bogdan LeChandro or Bo... Now he said it's a real pronunciation like Hendro, Leh-hen-dro in Roanoke, Texas. I'll wrap the streak for you and finally Matthew Stevens in North Highland Texas 50 bucks want to thank all these folks of course for really starting off a new year right or show 683 and we hope that it continues throughout 2015. And the appreciation that we have for how this has worked now in our eight-year right

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

New Year's Toast, Knighting Ceremony Conclusion

The show concludes with a toast to the "surveillance state" and the "police state of Gitmo Nation" for providing constant material for deconstruction. A final knighting ceremony is performed for Sir Asscrack and others, officially launching the 2015 production year.

surveillance state· police state· knighting· round table· 2015

2:33:53 the case here in our area to your one of uh... that also into their job car meeting at the end also had a couple deductions which were requested by people such as michael uh... sold and not I'm just happy. I'm happy that we're still alive, we've still eaten and we're still doing the show." Right? And we're still deconstructing and discovering new things every single day there's new stuff by the way. Just stunning when you see that cyber attack map... That is worth the price of admission right now! It's just stunning to me this is taking place and why then we should not ridicule women tell us

2:34:35 That is...that needs to be ridiculed. Yeah, well I'm pretty sure that we're not going to change our personalities. Well no that may not happen Thank you very much. We of course do have a show coming up on Sunday, this is the first day of the new year January 1st 2015 and we're doing the show and we look forward to the next show The second one And we are working on the first We are working Please start the year off right away working at your feet hitting the ground running That's right You know what? It keeps you... it keeps ya... no no it keeps you going This is important Can't just be goofin' off

2:35:17 No, no goofing off aloud. devorak dot org slash n-a You've been de-douche'd! ISIS We will follow them to the gates of ISIS Jobs jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! Yaaaaaaay! Karma It's your birthday, my day Daddy daddy oh no

2:35:59 And we start off with Serendipity who says happy birthday to his brand new human resource Emma, who was born on the 28th of December 2014. That's last year's news! Welcome Emma! Gilles Pabot...uhh...Bon chance? Bon anniversaire? Gilles? Je m'en fous! Happy Birthday along with Danielle Rudin turning 34 years old today Happy Birthday from all of your friends here at the magnificent good ship No Agenda! Now we have... where did I write it down? We were changing, for some reason of course it didn't take. Sir Dame... let me go back up. Dammit Janet! Yes, Dame Melody Mann aka dammit Janet and why didn't- Where did it go? Hmm because she wanted to be something else she wanted to be

2:36:55 Transylvania was involved. Yes, well do you have I'm sorry Louisiana purchase? Transylvania and the Louisiana Purchase all right let me read it to you now she wants that henceforth be styled dammit Janet of Transylvania and the Louisiana purchase she's a baronet got it Got it. I don't know if she's ever been knighted Oh Dame Melody man has been damed okay? Oh, we've got one trip yeah III would have thought so too But I remember that was a year Yeah, I wouldn't forget a good daming ever Okay So we would like to first grab our blades here John grab yours Thank you very much and not ask ass crack step forward Stephen Fetting Ramsey Kane Chris

2:37:37 Christopher Dolan and Craig Mazzella. Step forward, all of you becoming Knights of the North in a round table today I hereby pronounce thee Sir Asscrack, Sir Pants, Sir Ramsey Kane, Sir Christopher Dolan of Pancakes and Sir Mad Hatter Knight of the Fifth Column. Gentlemen for you we have Sake & Sushi, Root Beer & Pepperoni Pizza, Hookers & Blowout, Red Boys & Chardonnay, Ass Cream & Bear Fillings, Cabinets &...Cabinet...Canabis & Cabernet, Geishas & Sake Bong hits and bourbon of course mutton and mead Wow what a big list nice feels good my arms are tired from all that oh Nice, we got some ASCII art as he argued in the chat room of us. That's the stuff Yeah, it's kind of hot Oh, but Doug kicked him out. Oh well ah Doug is it you know flood? You can't flood if you flood then you fled your yeah dog will kick your ass bloods or duds

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Obesity Study, Matt Lee vs. State Department

A 2013 study suggesting that being slightly overweight reduces the risk of early death is revisited. The segment then shifts to a State Department briefing where reporter Matt Lee grills a spokesperson about the Turkish Prime Minister meeting with a leader of Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.

obesity· sky news· matt lee· hamas· turkey· state department

2:38:37 Yeah, floods or duds. Since you kept wanting to play the... I might as well play it now since we've been talking about it and I keep playing it. Play it. Being overweight could actually help you live longer according to a controversial new study into the effects of obesity researchers in the United States say carrying a few extra pounds might actually reduce your risk of an early death Sky's health correspondent Thomas Moore explains A new year and a new determination to get fit and lose weight. But those extra pounds from Christmas indulgence could in fact be a lifesaver! New research shows people who are a little overweight are less likely to die prematurely than those who stay slim, contradicting the long-standing advice of most doctors. It's good to have a little bit body fat. I don't think you should

2:39:34 trying to stay a very little wait but It's like everything else is in moderation. That has to be utter b******t, that's true as my French. Where do they get this stuff from? Oh so you don't believe it at all then? No This was two years ago to the day almost and we haven't heard anything of this since because this is no good. It's not true! This is like South Korea selling them weapons, we need to keep these diet pills and drugs, and gyms, spinning classes, and all these... Hey hey hey hey hey. All I need to say in business so don't even talk about anything like this it's crazy! Did you see Taylor Swift's gift-giving of 2014 video?

2:40:22 Oh, what a promotional genius this woman is. I mean, I had tears in my eyes. This was...I did not see it because I refuse to watch any more Taylor Swift stuff. Well she was like in the news everywhere she- I don't know who her publicist is but she's- I'm sure they work together because this is not something that anyone person can accomplish. Well, I think FedEx was also involved with a lot of signage for FedEx everywhere Yeah. But wow, I just love this girl now as much as I ridiculed her in the beginning and you should continue to ridicule her. And I want a banger. Sorry little girls hearts around the country just went crack

2:41:04 Is it well worth that I put it under the real news category any little girl who's a big Taylor Swift fan? I can assure you does not listen to this show right well So if you watch this video You'll see all these girls and just Taylor sent them Christmas gifts and some even a Hanukkah gift And they're all wearing their brand new is so obvious. They're brand-new Taylor Swift t-shirts while they're opening their gifts, huh? Wow what a coincidence would have thought oh But there's, it's so cute. And but then Taylor is in her Manhattan pad packing all these gifts up well she's packing up some. Yeah she's packing up one. Maybe? No a couple and then she writes little handwritten notes and uh-huh and she just as cute as a button I gotta say it. It's...I've been infiltrated

2:41:53 Yeah, you've been corrupted. I've been violated and corrupt by the mainstream media. I have been violated and corrupted! Taylor Swift has finally gotten to me. I can't help it now because I'm all Team Taylor. It was worth it... Team Taylor. Hey let's do a couple other things before we get out of here. First oh yeah so both girls are gone at the State Department They're off on vacation. They need to have a New Year's party, but who is there? Who is in the trenches in pole position carry our man Matt? Oh man. That's still there. Yeah, of course works. He got to do

2:42:38 And so there's this douche who is filling in. He's actually the press office director, I don't know... Is he above? Is he Jen and...? From the sounds of it yes, he would be their boss. What a moron! Okay, so it starts off like this. You may have missed this little ditty that occurred in Otomania also known as Turkey You may have missed this little ditty where, you know, a senior Hamas representative was hanging out in this NATO ally country known as Turkey. They are an official terrorist organization according to our State Department so if you're the director of press for the State Department you might expect a question about this! Oh wow I don't know what happened there hold on a second

2:43:39 They blew up the State Department. Do you have anything to say about the Prime Minister of Turkey meeting and spending significant time with senior leader of Hamas? I don't think i have any comment to offer on that, I'm happy to see if we have more readout but nothing to add right at this point You'd think someone would have a tab for that, don't you? Yeah. And of course Matt isn't having none of this. Matt Lee our diplomatic reporter, hero of the C-SPAN

2:44:20 He is a star. We should get his own walk of starved star walk of fame star Can you can you push really hard to get an answer on this because it seems kind of unusual that the prime minister? Of a NATO ally of yours is meeting with the head or the political chief of an organization that you designate as a terrorist group And you guys don't have anything to say no we'll come back with something this afternoon for you, I will come back something this afternoon well So, this afternoon they came back and let's continue with our little saga here with the boss man douche dickhead and Matt Lee. We continue to raise our concerns about the relationship between Hamas and Turkey with senior Turkish officials including after learning of Khalid Mishal's recent visit there. Now how would you retort to what he just said if you were Matt Lee?

2:45:15 Oh, I might ask him that this doesn't mean anything or what do you mean? Or further explain. Just say that's what i would say Well...I mean is that the extent of it? You just say we're concerned? This is a NATO ally hosting an avowed enemy of one your biggest allies Well, we have urged the government of Turkey to press Hamas to reduce tensions and prevent violence It was almost like Hey, I got an urge man. Don't do that no more okay? Stop it! We raise this at senior levels with our Turkish counterparts and... Do you think that an invitation to him in the prime minister of Turkey receiving him and welcoming him is an indication that your concerns are being addressed

2:46:06 Do you love this guy or what? Yeah, well he does what he's supposed to. That's what everyone is supposed to be doing! Well he's the only one doing it! I think uh... You can draw your own conclusions from that but certainly we take Hamas as a terrorist organization very seriously and that's why they're designated FTO Foreign Terrorist Organization. Well here's what Matt needs to be careful of getting killed like Helen He's a perfect candidate. Well, again, you're like Helen Meese being set up to get fired. Yes! And then you die. Well she died of old age but... But it was sad. It was sad. She got fired and it was sad.

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

2014 Forgotten Stories, Kill Lists

The hosts review forgotten headlines of 2014, including the Ice Bucket Challenge and the Sochi Olympics. They discuss a *Der Spiegel* report based on Snowden documents regarding a US "kill list" in Afghanistan that included drug dealers, and mention a Bernie Madoff documentary titled *In God We Trust*.

ice bucket challenge· afghanistan· nsa· edward snowden· bernie madoff

2:46:51 I was going over the list of major stories of the whole last year and the ones that have been forgotten, and there's a whole slew of them. And it compares a lot differently to what you have on Yahoo's top stories which seem to be all celebrity news. Well they know they're doing it right if you want ratings. Besides Snowden North Korea, the GM ignition switch to Polar Voice... Michael Brown, I Can't Breathe, Ray Rice. But the one that seems to be kind of forgotten is the... Oh and we forgot about the Olympics!

2:47:28 Nobody even talks about that anymore. And the ice bucket challenge, that was pretty stupid. Okay it's Borg-Bergdorf and in exchange for the guy who now runs... We by our theory assume there is one superstar drug guy that was in Gitmo which released to take over the drug business So I found that this clip was kind of interesting because it was kind of slipped in a Democracy Now report. And this is the targeting drug dealers in Afghanistan, which says to me things are back without our people there, I think things are going to be fine

2:48:12 A new report has revealed a kill list used by the U.S.-led NATO coalition in Afghanistan targeted not only high-level commanders of the Taliban, but mid and lower level operatives and even drug dealers—the secret documents, at least some of which came from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, spanned from 2009 to 2011. According to the German news magazine Der Spiegel, which reviewed them, they showed targeted killings were, quote, not just viewed as a last resort to prevent attacks but were in fact part of everyday life in the guerrilla war in Afghanistan. In one case, a young boy was killed and his father injured by a British helicopter pilot who was targeting a suspected mid-level Taliban commander.

2:48:57 So all along we've been, you know... part of the game is to target the Taliban guys. There's one of these renegade drug dealers doing business on the side which we've got nothing to do with. And American Hero is another sacred text as in a movie? the people should watch? Was it American Hero? I don't know what American Hero is. Oh no, American Drug Kingpin? Come on! Denzel Washington. Yeah that was a movie. Yeah American Gangster. Thank you. American gangster. That's very good movie. True story and it's a true story and if yeah... It's a very.. It's a true story and everyone should watch that. If you're going to watch documentaries

2:49:40 I was watching the, last night it was chewing up some time. In God We Trust which is a documentary about Bernie Madoff and it turns... And when you watch this, I'll have some clips of that. Was this on? Is this on Netflix or...? It's on our TV. Yeah, it's on Netflix I think called, it's called In God we Trust very interesting. It turns out that the Madoff Ponzi scheme was actually a front for money laundering operation There's gambling going on and so it is fascinating And I would if anyone gets a shot at that. I would I would check it out I don't really have anything a clip from it. I thought I did

2:50:23 I do have this clip though, this is interesting. This came out of a bunch of NSA stuff now this could be a red herring and bull crap just to make you think that this doesn't work but i thought the encryption works clip was worth listening to. And where's it from? Democracy Now again? This came from Democracy Now Meanwhile, another round of documents from Snowden published by Der Spiegel show some encryption tactics have successfully thwarted spying by the National Security Agency. An NSA document describes, quote, catastrophic levels of difficulty penetrating the communications of users who employed a combination of different encryption technologies."

2:51:03 Well, what is your feeling? What is your feeling on this well I know true crypt which was then taken off the market right used to promote the idea of multiple encryptions one on top of the other so you take this type and then You combine it with this type and you combine it with a third type Is possible that that Creates a problem in terms of decrypting. You know by hard you know taking their biggest machines you can and going after your password. I don't know. I think it could be bull crap that they finally figured out how to do that or it might actually work, just think a combination of high crypt numbers you know 256 this and then plus another crazy thing in another one can't be that easy to decrypt. Well I think here's the only thing really is important look at what happened with Sony and you know the smallest things

2:52:03 And I have lots of stuff in my email that could be very, very embarrassing to you John if that ever came out. So it should be just good practice that you just learn to encrypt and decrypt the stuff that you're sending. No one wants to help people do this. Just no one wants to help. Although I'll say Apple's not gonna door if you've got me that guy who did PGP was harassed for years Zimmerman Zimmerman yeah, well here. I think didn't he eventually just buckle maybe Yeah, that's the word I never realized that there they're panned left and right

2:52:53 Oh, the knocking? Yeah. Mine is left and yours is right that's kind of cool. That's funny. Well I don't know... I'll say Apple's mail application in conjunction with GPG tools is pretty stunning because when someone sends you an email it automatically and I have yet to see it fail will parse out find this person's public key And when you reply it just works. You don't have to go rooting around searching key servers It does it and adds it to your geared GPG keys Yeah, I find that that is the closest I've seen to being any good

2:53:41 By the way, The Spiegel which Democracy Now is quoted now twice in two of these clips. The Spiegel... Der Spiegel as Amy says. You know their crack reporting team as witnessed by the tweets from I O Error that's Jacob Applebaum. Our new story on mass surveillance and the kill list in Der Spiegel me and Laura reporting. Poitras But are they reporting? They just have this Snowden document that they're parroting. Yeah, but they're now reporters...the Spiegel, the new team, new reporting is a little icky. You know, Applebaum was a promoter. I don't think he's really a journalist who should be receiving...let me see if they get it by-line. Will they get awards? Oh yeah! They get all kinds of awards

2:54:36 Let me see if they get the... Oh, okay. That's funny. So he has to hype himself because it says Obama's list a dubious history of targeted killings in Afghanistan by Spiegel staff. That's us man. That's really me and Laura Poitras. Us? Ha ha! That's lame, that's very lame It's not lame it was just super lame Yeah that's super lame They didn't give us a byline bro. Man when you get a byline man...that really sucks mom Let me see this other one And here he says secret uh hold on This is quite funny actually

2:55:18 Connecting hashtag NSA mass surveillance. I'm sorry, following up to their at Der Spiegel reporting at Laura Poitras and at IO error talk at oh 31 C3 did you see this thing? Did you hear about this is 3C TV no crap. I gotta look at this. This is the idea I missed and I feel bad about it there was another one of these conferences from the chaos computer in Computer Club And the, you know, the Assange's girlfriend did another speech. So we have to ridicule I just haven't had time to look at it on the next Sunday agenda for something no agenda on Sunday? Yes and I will ridicule Okay good Yeah, poetry and wait for you get into it yeah I'm never getting laid ever again in my life okay that's good yeah nice fine let me give more tense

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

South Stream Pipeline, Putin Medieval Meme

The episode wraps with news that Gazprom has taken full ownership of the South Stream Transport BV. The hosts also identify a coordinated media meme describing Vladimir Putin as "going medieval" following the sentencing of opposition leader Alexei Navalny and the arrest of his brother.

south stream· gazprom· alexei navalny· vladimir putin· medieval

2:56:19 I'm done. Okay, well good luck to Taylor Swift! Oh yeah i would like to point out that Russia...I have to say the South Stream is not dead as far as I'm concerned there's all kinds of reports Russia's Gazprom now bought 50% stake in this is- I got this from Europe obviously the South Stream Transport BV which is a Dutch corporation BV are dutch corporations So now it is 100% owner of the South Stream Transport, BV. These are the guys who were doing some of the pipelines and transport on South Stream. I wonder if it's a buyout or just an opportunity? I'm keeping my eye on it. Anything could go right? Turkey is up in the air right now! You know, Turkey's doing strange stuff. Then we have Academy confirms

2:57:18 That they will be training the Ukrainian military for street fighting. Geez, what do they expect to be going on? I guess you're gonna move into that area where there are Russians. Well we know they've been there We have all the videos of people literally pointing at them and going Blackwater! Blackwater! Okay Academy... Yeah but we got nothing to do with it though No no no that's all Putin And here is is the meme of the day Put in a book Uh..we had revisionist Russia And now You probably heard Where he had this, uh... This possible political foe Alexei Navalny Arrested. But his brother is arrested I think he has house arrest And are you ready for the meme? You got- do you have the book? I got the pen Putin goes medieval Well they come up with something better than that It's popping up everywhere What is he doing that makes him go medieval Is he eating turducken

2:58:27 There you go No, man. This is about me of throwing your political Opponents in jail that's medieval and it sounds cool this is this is I'm this is coming from somewhere hold on Let's do a search Putin Mid evil how do we spell medieval? What's the question yeah central question MED ie ve al m m E-D-I-E-V-A-L, medieval. Medieval alright Putin now taking his rival family members hostage like a medieval king there's the first story Putin goes medieval on the Russian opposition Putin getting medieval nice Putin goes medieval on Russian opposition

2:59:20 Who else do we have? It's interesting, there is two. Putin is getting medieval, Putin goes medieval, Putin goes medieval, Putin goes medieval... This is coming out of everywhere! What's the source? That's the hard part I don't know Well it could be... The getting comes from Newser and Putin Goes Medieval comes from Bloomberg We'll find a sentence in here and maybe we can figure this out. But that's obviously going around You do that, and I'll watch the the computer chaos club to ridicule all right? We're in business does it sound like a deal 2015 looks like a winner Yeah starting off with the bang everybody very nice Hey John I have to say

3:00:19 The year starts off good when the first person I physically speak to is you. That's good, it's not bad... It's not bad! It's not bad! It's not bad! I'm happy. I'm happy. Well i'm happy too that we get another year underway here with some good stuff coming up. Yeah. I think it's going to be loaded. I think so too. It's great We live in great times my friend Last night during the New Year's celebration we went and had some champagne, and I toasted the surveillance state. It keeps no agenda in business! I too toast the police state of the United States of Gitmo Nation proud of it And i'm here in FEMA region 6 my name is Adam Curry In The Morning everybody

3:01:09 And from... Yes? I thought you had something else to say. Yeah, I said be in the morning everybody and Madame Courtenay. Oh okay well then from Northern Silicon Valley where it is also part of the giant police state which works like a champ i'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda The fact that it works just first and foremost is such an amazing feeling and the fact that it gets acknowledged anyway is pretty amazing but the Golden Globe is even cooler because my sister got nominated too so that's pretty amazing It was worth it. It was worth it. Boom shakalaka, boom shakalaka! Bingo. Boom boom shakalaka laka. Boom boom boom boom boom boom shakalaka boom boom There's no real conflict! Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe Dvorak dot org slash n a