Episode 672 · Sunday, 23 November 2014

Taboose

A secret gold heist by the Dutch government and the militarization of Disney Junior highlight a world shifting toward centralized control and fortress mentalities.

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About this episode

The Dutch government secretly repatriated 16 billion euros in gold from New York to the Netherlands, signaling a major shift in European financial sovereignty. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze this clandestine move alongside the inauguration of the Single Supervisory Mechanism, which grants the European Central Bank unprecedented oversight of Eurozone banks. These maneuvers coincide with a massive avian flu outbreak in the Netherlands that has forced the culling of 200,000 chickens and a nationwide transport ban.

Senator John McCain led a delegation to the Halifax International Security Forum to pitch a Fortress North America strategy, while Vice President Joe Biden visited Turkey to negotiate ISIS containment with President Erdogan. In the United Kingdom, the UKIP party secured a second parliamentary seat as three men appeared in court for a suspected beheading plot. Meanwhile, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber faces backlash for his comments on American voter intelligence, and the Department of Homeland Security expands internal checkpoints 100 miles from the New Mexico border. Tech developments include the SPDY protocol rollout and a $20,000 Bitcoin donation to the OpenBSD project.

Adam Curry recounts a tense negotiation with Veronica Magazine over a reunion photo shoot for the show Countdown, eventually settling for Economy Comfort seating. John C. Dvorak shares a 1970s motorcycle story involving hypothermia and a failed attempt to pick up a hitchhiker near Lake Tahoe. The broadcast concludes with the traditional Curry family recitation of Psalm 121, a ritual performed whenever the homestead is vacated.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

Amsterdam Lowlands, John C. Dvorak Travel Plans

Adam Curry broadcasts from The Pipe in Amsterdam while John C. Dvorak prepares to travel north from Silicon Valley to Port Angeles. The hosts discuss the early start time of the show and the depressing, overcast winter weather currently affecting the Netherlands.

amsterdam· silicon valley· port angeles· utc· skype· the pipe· netherlands

00:00 Oh, right. You probably stunk. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday November 23rd 2014 time for Get Monation Media Assassination episode 672 This is no agenda Covered in the grayness of githound nation lowlands. Coming to you from The Pipe, in the heart of Amsterdam In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I am John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning! There we go. And cue Skype crapping out

00:35 Skype crappy no I queued it usually that's exactly what happens. Let's show when you're in this particular location We had some bad trouble the last time we started in this location Remember, no hmm anyway for those of you listening at know agenda stream calm. Oh, we are indeed an hour early Starting at 4 p.m.. UTC. I brought the UTC watch Just in case And as we were getting set up to start the live stream and recording, I asked John. I said are you at home? Are you up north in Port Angeles? And John says... I said no i'm leaving for North right after the show! And I said oh you liar

01:23 Then I said, what are you talking about? So I get an email last night. Yeah the first email is Newsletter coming your way stay you can go to bed after an hour Thanks dad Well usually conk out around and you know, I thought you'd missed the news no No, I was really ready to conk out. I was watching Dutch TV which was tripping me out Okay, we can talk about that after you get over your little yeah, but you or here. Yeah because after that Or I guess it came in this morning when before you went to bed use you send me an email Subject let's go early tomorrow and then in the body of the message for your sake since you are in Holland what?

02:07 You liar! It's so you can get out. That was what I was thinking at the time. You liar, no... You were not thinking that? You're thinking ah well i don't want to leave on time like four o'clock I don't really need to rush but I thought to myself I said you know poor Adams in Holland he guys gonna be like it's gonna be like midnight by the time we do this show I should ask him if we should go out early and then I said to myself Well, and by the way you'll benefit because you can get a little more time to pack so he won't have to pack last night I haven't packed for your sake since you're in Holland bull what a bunch of bull. Yeah, just it's so easy I look right through you Dvorak yeah You didn't notice it at the time Well, I actually thought to myself is does heat self oh

02:54 Does he not know that it's only six o'clock in the evening when I start the show? And it was not like, is... It means like it's really really late. It's not past midnight. You say it's not late. Is-is the sun out? Well, the sun started to go down around 430. It's now pitch black! It's like I'm living in the Arctic. It's horrible and it was already gray Go outside maybe you see the northern lights No because there's its overcast. This what happens in The Netherlands Near the winter, in the winter we enter a tunnel and this tunnel is just months long. And sometimes you never come out of it until like July. At least it's not raining but it's not really super cold, it's mid-40s but gray... Just gray and depressing. There's so much to be depressed about! You get that dour Dutch look Yeah But there are no Dutch people here either

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

Wagamama Restaurant, Polish Visa Issues in the Netherlands

A visit to a Wagamama restaurant in southern Amsterdam reveals a staff primarily composed of Polish and Latvian immigrants. A conversation with a Polish server highlights frustrations regarding the United States visa waiver program and the difficulty Polish citizens face when attempting to visit family in America despite Poland's status as a NATO ally.

wagamama· amsterdam· poland· visa waiver program· nato· latvia· pan-asian food

03:50 I've been walking around. They're all gone, they're in the US! Yeah you know they're all from other countries and i had dinner with Christina last night um have you ever been to Wagamama's? Are you familiar with this? No it's uh...I know that's in the UK but I don't know where it comes from originally so it's kind of like an Asian restaurant but it's very affordable You know, there's long benches. It's like but it's all kind of modern hard to explain you should look on the web Wagamama and looking at it as we speak. Yeah. Wha a mama walker? No waga mama waga mama. Mama walks now wagamama all one word Wagamamas is walking mom or wogga wogga w whiskey alpha golf golf I know you don't like me to give you the code they don't

04:42 Wagamama. There's nothing, please. What am I? You're not doing it right? Is it all one word yes wagamamas ooga booga Okay well while you're looking at up which seems to be incredibly difficult oh there It is waga mama alright you see what a British headquartered restaurant chain may yours yeah serving pan Asian food in the style of a modern Japanese ramen bar there you go that's exactly by Alan Yao and 1992 as old He's been around the UK and they have a new one open here in the south of Amsterdam. But you know, everybody in there was from somewhere else. Latvia, lot of Polish people...

05:25 And I immediately was like, hey. You know you when you go to a Korean restaurant there's a lot of Koreans in there that means it's a good place if you go to a Chinese restaurant sort of Chinese is a good places a lot of wagas in here? No zero. There was no Dutch people either they've gone they just they've been disappeared yes there's a lot of and then the servers were Polish and say hey how's that visa situation For those who don't know, this NATO ally of ours is not on the visa waiver program. And apparently the only guys who helped us during the George Bush war against Iraq... Yeah but I mean why would we reward them for good behavior? Why bother? And then this girl says yes i know yeah you know I want to see my uh-I can't do a Polish accent really but I want to see my sister she live there and I don't get visa! Why not?! Why can't travel??

CHAPTER 03 / 47 Discussion

Uber Experience, Austin Airport Transit

A recent Uber trip to the Austin airport involved a messy minivan that appeared to be used as a primary residence by the driver. The experience serves as a contrast to typical professional car services, noting the "trashy" condition of the vehicle despite the driver's proficiency.

uber· austin airport· rideshare· minivan· transit· texas

06:20 And I said, well it's because we hate you. And I apologize on behalf of the American public and she was very happy but let me reverse a little bit John if i can get into the getting just give you a bit of the travels or a little travelogue here yes okay? Yes because I want to know what happened Okay first of all Let's start with the trip to the Austin airport That's right Trip to the Austin Airport which I did since my wife Miss Mickey was in Houston But I took an Uber This is important, I think. We need to speak more about the Ubers and this was a complete different experience guy shows up in... It was the right car but it was what is this like? What are them the minivan kind of it's like a station wagon but it has a slot Caravan something like that yeah like a caravan

07:11 And this, it's trash. It just like I'm getting into some guys' trash." Oh! And the guy was really nice that's why... I just want to get the airport and he really knew where to go but it was trash you know? Just trash everywhere just junk and the seats were icky so strange like okay- He was living in the car Yeah thats what it looked like So this thing does happen as well Get to the airport. Now, I of course was prepared... It's a two-stage flight from Austin. First you have to go to Atlanta and fly that with the Sky Partner Delta which means nothing is integrated they don't know about each other none of your air miles work in the same place it's their sky partner! And then I of course from Atlanta would take KLM out to Amsterdam

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

TSA Pre-Check, Trusted Traveler Number Technicalities

Technical issues with Delta Airlines prevented a TSA Pre-Check status from appearing on a home-printed boarding pass. Re-entering a Trusted Traveler Number at the airport desk successfully triggered the Pre-Check status, while a separate discussion notes that Southwest Airlines occasionally grants Pre-Check status to frequent flyers who have not completed the formal federal interview process.

tsa pre-check· delta airlines· trusted traveler number· goes card· southwest airlines· airport security

07:57 And I printed out my boarding pass at home, and lo and behold no TSA pre-check. Now this would be the third flight with Delta that this has gone wrong. So I... Can't you whip out your GOES card or whatever it is and say, hey look. Not at the TSA checkpoint No they no i've tried that we you'll recall We discussed that and even they even say That's not a pre-check You don't want to argue with these idiots But I went to the desk And of course you always walk straight into The premium frequent flyer line

08:38 Because they don't, they don't care. Just so I just this is a tip for everybody another one I learned from Mickey being even I have um...I used to be gold with KLM. I used to be gold with all the airlines and now i have-i think they call it uh.. Now you're a schmuck! Yeah it's called either its pearl yeah your KLM Pearl which is nothing that's a starter yes means you signed up. It means like I ticked the box and I got a number But you just walk up and the girl says, oh come on over. And I knew she was gonna be good. I said going to Amsterdam before you do anything would you do me a favor? Would you retype my number, my trusted traveler number and then do the check in the boarding pass. And I could see that she was smart. The number was already in there it was the right number. She re-enters the number hits go boarding pass comes out I've got prechecked

09:34 I don't know why this worked, but it works. They probably don't like the over... they probably would if you did it at the kiosk instead of at home You'd probably get a pass now. Now I just got my boarding pass printed out this morning for Southwest and I got pre-checked and even though I'm not a member of anything. You're not even a trusted traveler? No Have you done the interview No, I haven't. Did you pay $140 for your... Yeah, I've done that part. I'm going to lose that money if i don't get my act together. Interesting how do you get pre-checked then? If you're not a trusted traveler apparently Southwest has its own system and they give it to you if you fly them a lot now this makes no sense

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Airport Security, Microphone X-Ray Identification

Carrying a Rode Procaster microphone through airport security often triggers manual bag searches because the device resembles a canister of explosives or a large adult toy on X-ray machines. An anecdote is shared regarding a former Spy Magazine editor who intentionally packed bags with adult toys to annoy security personnel.

rode procaster· tsa· x-ray· explosives· spy magazine· dildos

10:15 Makes no sense to me, but I'm not complaining. Yes, they usually get it coming out of Oakland to going to Seattle I usually get another way back this makes No sense you're supposed to be trusted traveler you have an interview they take your fingerprints Yeah, okay mom you know just tell you what? I got fine fine fine fine fine. I'm not a sucker Go on with the story So that goes well and I've actually gotten to the airport early. And you know, and I've learned now...I take the microphone which is the Rode Procaster, I take it out of my bag and just leave it in a leatherette pouch that you put it in which I'm sure is faux leather

10:57 I'm sure it is. Yeah, and and i've learned to do this because then they don't go searching through your whole bag to find this thing which of course looks like a canister of c4 or A steely dan pleasure toy because that's what it really looks like on the on the x-ray Oh, that's probably why they want to open your bag and... Yeah. To embarrass you? Hope they can find something. What?! There used to be a guy in there- What is this Mr Curry!? There used to be an editor at I Spy Magazine This was before 9-11 even he used to do this If he was on a short flight And didn't really need to pack A lot of stuff He'd pack his bag filled with dildos Like the most extreme weird looking ones Why? So they have to go through rummage through the bag That's funny

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

Sinclair Lewis, Babbit Novel Analysis

The 1922 novel Babbit by Sinclair Lewis is examined as a study of the stereotypical American businessman living a life defined by social memes. The narrative follows a character who is perceived as a success by his peers but is viewed as a sympathetic loser by the reader.

sinclair lewis· babbit· american businessman· 1920s literature· memes

11:43 Yeah, well I actually wanted to just fly. But every single time now it's they look at it and they can't identify it. Yeah just take it out is better yeah And they still have to do you know rub it for explosives rub my hands like God okay fine Now, I was in a particular kind of mood already. You know...I'm really trying to do less electronic stuff in my life when I can? Less the electronic communications? Go on simple! Trying to do it and we had discussed the book Babbit by Sinclair Lewis had we not? Yes So I ordered that book awhile ago and it came and I started reading it so I thought well I'm going to read Babbit now can you explain the story bit about Babbit

12:31 Just a story about a loser. Exactly! But he's not, he's not a loser in anyone's mind except the readers at the point where you start feeling sorry for the guy. It just it's okay... At that time in the late 20s this is an American businessman This is kind of an overview of the American business man and how he stuck living life of memes Right This 1920s, and I think this is one of his most famous books right? Yes it's one of the top five. And so you are in a very particular mindset that the language is a little older, old fashioned, the way its written

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Science of Survival, L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology

A package from a No Agenda knight in Australia contained a copy of Science of Survival by L. Ron Hubbard along with a six-page handwritten letter. The book, written after Dianetics, focuses on human tonality and frequencies, prompting a discussion on the lost art of letter writing and the Church of Scientology's recruitment tactics.

l. ron hubbard· science of survival· scientology· dianetics· handwritten letters· knights

13:11 And I had just received, before I left a box which was in the PO Box. I had to send one of Don's books off to one of our producers he wanted me have it signed by him for his dad's birthday like okay so i had to go the P.O. Box at the post office and man what is this you open up your PO box and get someone else's mail who used to have that box number Yeah, that's annoying. That's really distressing but yeah it's quite annoying and junk mail Why why am I getting junk mail? You know like circulars for shopping at HEB Why is that coming to the PO box? I don't understand this well They paid they paid to have a delivered every but as a program Okay can get out of it all right

13:55 So this box is heavy, and I just kind of opened it up before before. I left there two beautiful books in it One had already read but then I'll get to that in a second But the other one was called the science of survival are you familiar with this book no good? Because it makes the story easier to tell. And this book is like a reference book, you know? I used to have a Webster's Dictionary we had at home and has those indents so that you can put your finger in and flip to the right page Yeah What are those things called? Indents so that you can flip to the right page I'm sure there is a publishing term for it! I'm sure there is You wouldn't know these things No I wouldn't Nobody does that anymore Well its beautiful

14:38 Really, really pretty beautiful book. Okay great and accompanied with it is a letter...a six-page handwritten note It's not a note it's a letter! It's a full on letter from one of our knights down under So you know I'm starting to read this and he's a Scientologist in this book Science Of Survival is the book that L Ron Hubbard wrote after Dianetics Huh. And it's an interesting book and there is some controversy, of course about it but this is about the tonality of people and what frequencies they're on and just stuff that I'm interested in. You know me...I'm interested in that Yeah! This is all wrapped up your alley. It was really kind of nice. I mean this old-fashioned mode reading handwritten letter and then you thought really? I'm just gonna do that. I want to start writing people letters again

15:31 Okay, it's a lot more fun. Is that where this story led to is that was that's not the punchline well There's no well know the punch line is there's no punch line per se Well let's get back to them okay? Yes you want to ask something I thought we were heading to Amsterdam Scientology what we don't have to talk about it. You know they're an L Ron Hubbard loser Laugh you're gonna get that's adam at curry.com for all these psychologists listeners Lafayette Lafayette Hey, yeah, yeah, no you remember the Hubbard to the top Scientology Church of Scientology PR people You know we're in Austin and you know we hung out quite a bit So this is you know they're clearly on on a path to get me to suck me in it. They do it What's that nothing?

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Dutch Gold Reserves, Repatriation from New York

The Dutch government recently admitted to secretly repatriating 16 billion euros worth of gold from New York to the Netherlands via ship. This move follows similar actions by Germany and Switzerland, leading to speculation about the future stability of gold prices.

netherlands· gold reserves· repatriation· new york· dutch bank· germany· switzerland

16:28 Although but you're you've got okay the TSA right so I'm not anyway, so and I do thought I'd do all that again on the plane Atlanta and of course they have the The newspapers the Dutch newspapers. Okay? I don't know if KLM does this I really like that And there's three or four different Dutch newspapers You just pick one up then you go when you start reading the news from that day front page big big on the Big Tabloid the telegraph The Dutch government has admitted now that they snuck back, repatriated but under huge secrecy something like 16 billion euros worth of gold from New York and it came on ships. And so they say oh now a third of our reserves are back in the Dutch bank and it was really kind of... I don't know, it was interesting

17:22 This is happening a lot. We have Germany doing it, Switzerland's talking about it and was just as strange the whole secrecy of it. Have you heard anything about this? Nope! But I'll tell you this much since we always end up being the winners in these deals that me surprised if gold is gonna drop like a rock. Really? Yeah until it goes back up but maybe will drop like a rock to screw these guys pulling that stunt. Hey hey hey... Okay well that's a good tip put that one in the Red Book Okay, well all right so I arrive. I'm in the apartment my buddy's apartment Let's us rent it from him cheap because he lives in LA and he's only here once in a while So that's all good and then beyond waiting you know done my dinner. I'm really tired I want to go to bed And then I'm waiting for the newsletter thing and just the Dutch TV John It's really insane. It's so How do you keep forgotten how crazy? It is and there was only here like two months ago

CHAPTER 10 / 47 Discussion

Credit Card Security, European Chip and Pin Failures

American credit cards equipped with chips are failing to utilize the standard PIN security protocol in Europe, instead defaulting to a signature-based system. Furthermore, European point-of-sale terminals are offering dynamic currency conversion that applies unfavorable exchange rates to unsuspecting American travelers.

chip and pin· credit cards· exchange rates· fraud· starbucks· apple pay

19:13 Really nice. I mean that I know look they look gorgeous, but the i8 does looks gorgeous Yeah, it's good on a four to go off two miles before it craps out and then you're screwed It's a hybrid no it has a three-cylinder engine That's the hybrid is right in three cylinder But the i3 I guess is completely battery yeah, I 3 yeah Okay So to finalize then we caught up here in the Netherlands besides its gray and gloomy and dark and dismal The pin and poke thing. I now have an American credit card with a chip on it for the pin and poke. And it doesn't work? It works completely the opposite, people are looking at me like what let me explain so the idea is you pay for something You stick your card into the machine of the edge one the short side with the chip on it you stuck them to stick in the machine

20:07 Then you're supposed to enter your pin number and then I'm teaching this is how it should work. I stick it in It sounds good. I stick it in and it says do you want this transaction? Euro or dollars, but why would they even ask that if it's the same amount of no idea oh So you do have that choice. I'll tell you why, so there's some... That mechanism it kind of includes some way to screw you out of a dollar or something. I'm thinking myself exactly that like oh what's the rate? What's the rate? I'm getting fucked on this deal! I don't know what the rate is because they just say a number. Wow shoot hold on a second let me get one of these things right now maybe this this is okay here we go ready for it uh let me see

21:01 They don't have a terminal there What are you doing? I thought on one of these. I saw that it had both amounts printed on it the euros and Shoot calculator to make sure you don't get screwed here. It is yeah I'm guessing that you... Here it is. It was the exchange rate i got today, okay? You'll love this all right here we go This is why it's done you're absolutely right this is going to be an incredible revelation if you take your pin and poke and piss pass over To Europe And you stick in the machine and gives you the option of paying in US dollars do not select that option

21:44 It's for the dummies from America. So we go oh yeah dollars as well flum, and I did this today For the first time And I'm here ready for the exchange. What is the exchange rate today according to the John C. Duvore Act LIBOR charts? Well, if you want a real number, I can guess right now... No no! But I need the real number this is... I'll give it to you hold on a second. I have an exchange rate that's... Right here right at Japan... Let me tell you... Right now it's 12386. 12386 do you have a pen write that down 123.86 I also have four after the decimal for the exchange rate by selecting US dollars my exchange rate today was 129 52 well they made a but they made six cents on you per euro per euro but what is it that's a ripoff yeah

22:43 Yeah, they're scamming you. Good so we learned that but then but then you say okay And that's when the first I said do you want to pay this? Okay The next step would be enter your pin number okay instead it says if you look at a little happy face like and Then I didn't enter anything and then the person behind the terminal goes oh And then some extra piece of paper comes out for them not expecting So not just my receipt, but another piece of paper. They're stunned by this! They are so far I've seen it every single time like what? The Starbucks girl is really funny and they all you have to sign so what's the point of that?! What is the point that's dumb It's almost like Apple Pay

23:32 You still have to sign something. So now it's like, it's acting... They're holding this thing you signed they've never seen one before what do they do with it? Stick in their pocket? No! It's what they used to get when you swipe your credit card so its identical to swiping your credit card is just reading your information off of the pin. It's a joke. So it's completely not interactive Anybody can steal this, stick it in... anybody can steal it, stick it in and rip me off. Yeah because there's no pin involved No pin! It was bogus! It's just a credit card and they've moved the magnetic stripe info onto this chip Huh I had no idea that wa-that was that bad Well you've learned something here Already at the best podcasting universe Where? I am in the middle of bird flu

CHAPTER 11 / 47 Discussion

Avian Flu Outbreak, Dutch Poultry Culling

A significant outbreak of avian flu in the Netherlands has resulted in the culling of over 200,000 chickens across multiple farms. Authorities have implemented a 72-hour transport ban on poultry, eggs, and manure to contain the virus, which has also been detected in Germany and the UK.

bird flu· netherlands· avian flu· poultry· chickens· germany· agriculture

24:23 Bird flu? Yeah. Oh that's right, there is bird flu going on over there! What's the story? I'll give you a little update... We probably should do this properly as of just- I didn't even realize it because it's not just any old bird that this has happened to The War on Chicken. Another 10,000 chickens are to be slaughtered in the Netherlands where a third case of avian flu has been found on a farm It brings to more than 200,000 the number of birds culled in the last two weeks after there were also cases in Germany and the UK The Dutch may be the worst affected but they believe they've quickly taken the right measures We've announced a standstill which means that it is not allowed to transport poultry eggs

25:13 poultry manure and things like that. Hey, no chicken shit here! For the next 72 hours from this area and from the rest of the Netherlands as well so we can keep the virus as small a process as we can So chicks risks to human health remain small in this outbreak and they show this is this farm Where the farmer it's indoors, and it's just a million little cute yellow chicks And you can just say you're all gonna die And they're cute and they yellow, a little peepee and they're running around. The farmer walks through them and they go... They kind of flow around his feet. They are so cute! And the farmers are biting their nails ahead of the make or break Christmas season. I'm biting my nails when poultry sales are sore and there are birds on nearly every European table A couple things about this report one

26:11 People are eating. Okay, I was this is an 11 year cycle 2003 is when we last had avian flu bird flu in the Netherlands and we had the The castle light in Belgium And we were no more than, I think two kilometers from the circle where they were culling all birds. And we had black swans and ducks and just a million different... It would have been horrible because it would come in and just kill everything But I remember that as a burning event and I haven't seen any of that That's why you have to burn all of it You can't just kill them, you gotta kill them and then burn

26:57 Man, I smell like a giant barbecue going on. Hey no one's... they didn't say that they're not selling it that you know they're just killing them now huh? They didn't actually say you know how their disposing of it It's always astonishing to me how many chickens they can just get rid of and nobody seems to be affected monetarily Well they did say the farmers were biting their nails because this is the big chicken-killing season Yeah they gotta bring up a new batch It only takes like a month or so for chicken to become mature I think. And they're so cute and yellow!

CHAPTER 12 / 47 Discussion

Chicken Farming, Aggressive Behavior of Roosters

A personal anecdote about keeping chickens deconstructs the "idyllic" image of farm life, noting that fresh eggs require time to congeal and that chickens are often aggressive, reptilian animals. The story highlights the difficulty of retrieving eggs from protective and pecking roosters.

chickens· roosters· farming· eggs· animal behavior

27:36 The chicks. Yeah, little chicks. They're brutal they're pecking machines. You see a dot on some of them and they'll peck another cute little chicken to death. They are horrible animals. They are reptiles, reptilian. They look cute to you! Hey I had chickens we had this idyllic idea that every morning i'd go to the coop and get fresh eggs from the chicken. You can't really eat a fresh egg by Why not? It's just hashed egg. For one thing, the shell is still soft and the egg hasn't congealed inside perfectly so it won't stand up in a pan. It usually falls apart. You know it just makes a mess and you have to let them sit for a couple of days right

28:22 But that's not the story. When you have the castle and you're in this make-believe fake life with helicopter pads and stuff... Yeah, if you have your hand under a chicken it plops an egg in your hand then you're eating... It's almost like that but here's how the story differs You go poopoo poopoo I'm going to my chickens are gonna get an egg And you come near and the chickens go... And they're mean. Oh yeah, and especially the roosters. Oh! And they peck at you and they don't want even in the coop. No? It hurts when they peck your hand like what?! Yeah well you have to be more aggressive That's not how the idyllic story goes that I grew up with

29:06 Yeah, no you have to like just You put your take grab the chickens and throw them every which way they grab the eggs and run for it. Yeah That's yeah, that's hardly ideal. That's the best way to do it exactly yeah I was very disappointing among many other things well. I'm glad you settled in well kind of And only reason here is this photo shoot You're at a photo shoot? They're taking pictures of you? No, on Tuesday. There's a photo shoot What photo shoot? It's uh... they were- Didn't I tell you the story? No Oh it was about- Not about a photo shoot Okay OH! Yeah There was Adam in Austin Hey there's a photo shoot Adam they're gonna take your picture Really?! Where!? I'll fly there tomorrow Exactly how it went Yeah No

CHAPTER 13 / 47 Discussion

Veronica Magazine, Dutch Media Reunion Photo Shoot

Veronica Magazine, a major Dutch lifestyle publication, invited Adam Curry to participate in a reunion photo shoot for former hosts of the show Countdown. The negotiation involved the magazine's reluctance to pay for premium airfare, eventually settling on "Economy Comfort" for the international flight.

veronica magazine· netherlands· countdown· economy comfort· photo shoot· media

29:52 So they were putting together the Veronica magazine is it is the biggest has the largest circulation I'm thinking of a million million copies a week for country 17 million. That's not bad no, that's It's like a TV guide media magazine lifestyle then it's a derivative of the old pirate ship Veronica but you know lots a lot of a lot of steps in between the old pirate ship and this magazine an And so they want to do a, uh, some kind of reunion with all of the different people who have hosted this show countdown. I don't know maybe it shouldn't even made this supposed to be some big surprise? I dunno maybe i'm messing at all up too late now. Whoops! All right. Uh, some, some show reunion thing and then said they emailed me a couple times like hey buying a chance are you going to be in The Netherlands on this? And I'm like no

30:44 And again, it's like wow you know we're doing this really cool idea and then really be ashamed. We can't do this without you! I'm thinking bah oh now i don't have to say anything. What happened was they were going to do this but they were going to try to keep it a secret and to get you to come they actually had to tell you the secret? I don't think it's that deep... It is. No, I think they're just cheap They're just cheap. No, they're cheap because and then they said well How about if we fly you in I said okay? I'll do that cuz I think I could see Christina You know be fun a little trip for all I see what you're saying Yeah They were hoping to God that you were gonna be there somehow some way yeah Cuz it's cheap with a million copies of a week cheap bastard. I understand their cheaper It's very common And then the guy says okay will do is it okay cool and then you know it was like so it's easier If I just

31:29 If I just pay for it, oh, I'll order the tickets and you can reimburse me. Um, so then it would have some money in the Dutch bank account which has no money in it and then I would have that, you know, just as a like a backup." And the guy's like, okay yeah great just to reiterate and I'm like we only pay for economy class. Like fuck really? Fuck cheap! Cheap! And I even said this Oh yeah okay fly the guy who is the tallest Yeah, put him in economy for the photo shoot. Ever hear of Photoshop? Okay! Make it Economy Comfort. Because okay... Economy comfort. Well that's at least something I'll give you that because you can't have the right now ever since they invented that economy

32:14 or economy extra, whatever they call it. Depends on the airline. They made all the other seats...you might as well shoot yourself if you got into one of those seats you could never...you can't even get out! Here's a little-known secret. They didn't create Economy Plus. They just shrunk Economy down to three rows and then put in smaller seats in the back Yeah, this is what used to be normal like oh my knees are not actually touching the seat in front of me It's not by much and until the person you know puts their seat back And then you have to go with the flow Anyway so that's why I'm here. Okay well That was good. You know that way we get to get you out of the house yeah, all right We have Just seen here the spreadsheet just came in Oh

CHAPTER 14 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Show 671 Dictator Artwork

The hosts discuss the lack of new artwork submissions for the current episode, leading them to use an "evergreen" piece titled "Dictator" from the archives. They encourage listeners to continue submitting art to the show's gallery.

artwork· podcast· creative commons· dictator· evergreen box

33:07 I'm gonna wait for that. Yeah, Eric didn't it was unaware of our well of course I mean why would I follow telling him? I know I have these same thoughts and why what oh no I didn't tell Void zero is like well. I didn't tell him why would he have to know? They should be able to they should really figure it out on their own, but I think that everyone else gotta tell somebody everything Yeah, I think that there's no always listening to every single second of the show and know everything You know that's what you hope I'm always surprised. No more surprise Well then you might as well greet me when get on with this show all right Well thank you very much for your courage and let me say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak

33:52 In the morning to you Adam Curry, also in the morning all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes! And in the morning too everyone in the chat room NoahJenIsStreamed.com checking us out live on the stream. And also in the morning to our artistes I'm gonna bring this up here artwork4671Dictator now this was um wasn't that evergreen? Yeah it was an evergreen Yeah, we couldn't find anything. There was very few submissions for the last show. A little disconcerting I don't think it's ever been that... maybe there was something wrong. Maybe sometimes it goes on the fridge and you know it's to the headless droop. That's possible

34:33 But so we had to dig into the evergreen box, right? And which is lots in there and you could find something in there usually that it will suffice Suffices the key. Yeah, and it's sufficed. It was good Okay, so I'm just getting them did we get any support today? Ah Well, okay. Well, we do have some people who thank yes Let me thank them hold on. I know what I need for show 670 and yes, please. Oh Grand Duke I said, hey, it was David Foley's tops the list today with three four five six seven one of his favorite Thursday show He says was an excellent example of why this is the best podcast in the universe. Oh

CHAPTER 15 / 47 Discussion

Aftermath Movie, Chris Penn and Tony Danza

A No Agenda producer announces the release of the film Aftermath, featuring the final performance of Chris Penn alongside Tony Danza and Michael Anthony Hall. The movie is described as a gritty exploration of human devolution influenced by money and power, drawing comparisons to Reservoir Dogs.

aftermath· chris penn· tony danza· michael anthony hall· reservoir dogs· independent film

35:33 The breakdown and analysis of several key topics was incredible. Incredible! Balanced with a lot of humor, please send some no agenda karma to all of us traveling this coming week for safe journeys." That includes you Adam. Yeah! Hey-o! Nice! You thought karma. I love that. Not just like a financial contribution but actual kudos. Yeah yeah that was good That was really good. Do you have the beginning of this long note that was sent here by our next associate? By the way, Foley's the only executive producer. Dave DeDouche in Malibu. Hold on a second. 26666 will be the associate executive producer for show 672 and sends a note that starts out, Out there that might love to show... Hold on a second

36:28 I'm working on only one very small screen here, so things are just taking me a little longer. I know what he said! There's people out there that might love the show but don't have the guts to donate because they're either nervous about being called out on a list someday or they find you terribly amusing but think your bat shit crazy and would never donate anything etc. Hopefully they're doing their part by propagating the formula...and some of them are Some of them are. You guys are definitely the most fun informative show out there. I actually like the fact that i don't agree with some of the things you say, which speaks to the whole promise of the no agenda philosophy... ...to deconstruct the scenarios we see in front of us and think carefully for ourselves about who or what is behind them. From that perspective, I am forever in your debt! One of the many blessings of this show is to remind us that we are all free thinkers that should ultimately come to our own conclusions

37:28 I have a movie coming out November 20th. I love that, nice! Slick! Called Aftermath which...I provided the music and i'm one of the producers. I think the No Agenda listeners will love it It's right on topic regarding the devolution of the human mind as it becomes infatuated with money sex and power Not necessarily in that order And he has his special offer Which will put in the show notes, okay? Well figure out what it is as it gets harder and harder to do something edgy and creative. It's seen in these screwed up X-Men 15 Batman 25 types of time is only playing in New York and Los Angeles okay? This is movie He's got the two major markets that's good

38:16 Yeah, well that's just a two minute... Oh this is Chris Penns final performance. Yes! His Aftermath was his final performance and he did an amazing job Tony Danza is also incredible And there are quite a few other excellent actors in it People are saying Aftermath has the style of Reservoir Dogs and True Romance Michael Anthony Hall gives a stellar performance for his total asshole. Wait, wait...Michael Anthony Hall? Who's he again? Look him up! Which is sadly enough isn't much of a stretch if that says saying something I guess if any of the NOAgenda listeners like it please hit somebody in the mouth all right okay anybody that goes to see Aftermath and says In The Morning at the box office will get three dollars off the ticket price

39:00 Or you'll get one of these looks. What? Go see Aftermath in New York on the 28th as a quad cinema in LA on the week of December 5th. Here's to the greatest podcast in the universe! He was in Weird Science, that's who that is. Weird Science? Yes. You know when they made like the weird science thing where they made a girl come to life? Yeah Yeah, she was a very attractive female. Kelly LeBrock is who that was. Yeah, LeBrock looked great! She ended up marrying Ringo Starr. What?! Well... Yep I believe so. Oh no, it's the other girl he married. The other girl who married Ringo Starr looks just like Kelly LeBrock

CHAPTER 16 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Donations, Knighting and Barony Ceremonies

The hosts process several high-value donations, granting titles such as the Baron of South Orange County. Contributors request "karma" for various life events, including apartment hunting and relationship stability, while the hosts debate the rules of the No Agenda Peerage Court.

donations· knighthood· barony· orange county· karma· peerage court

39:47 Anyway, he says he's gonna finish his knighthood and me wants to be well He has to tell us when it happens which is sir douche of doucheland. Okay, which I mean she probably lives in LA Oh no, yeah, he lives in a Malibu haha Yeah Or Slav Marinoff and go Canyon California very close to that 233 33 Please send me an apartment buying karma and successful purchase by the way Please send me an apartment. Hold on a second, uh... We have to- we have some clips here. Oh he got one! I'm sorry Dave LaDouche. Yeah we've got some clips. It has the very bottom he wants Obama that's the story little boy boom shaka laka and a karma

40:28 For douche land. Okay, hold on a second... Uhh.. Little boy boomshakalaka- What was the first one? Obama That's The Story?? Yeah just that's the story. That's the story? He probably means the whole thing this time but I don't know! I dunno what it is so we're just uh- And thats the story! Go Boomshakalaka! That's not the right Boomshakalaka Oh damn this is gonna be one of those shows. BOOMSHAKALAKA! BOOMSHAKALAAA- And the karma!! You've got Karma. Okay, just wanna make sure we get that done man Because I get a note. You didn't give me my karma! That's true. A lot of people complain. Sir Borislav Marinov, we always give it eventually. 23333 in Trabuco County. Please send me an apartment buying karma and successful purchase by the way. Karma? I guess... I'm pretty much sure I have donated over $3000 on my behalf and $3000 for my three boys nights. Wow. One was the youngest night at age two days.

41:28 which should make me at least a baron or a viscount. No, it'd be a baron. The other three is used by the other people. He's in for three. Did you write this down? Have you adjusted this in the ledger? Yeah I have it and we get apart of Orange County to South Orange County if its taken... Oh he wants to be the Baron of South Orange County Think about which part of getting all the way out. You can have all of Orange County I don't think that isn't it the whole county no one has an orange County No, are you looking at the right ledger? The full ledger? Don't believe anyone has that this is off to top my head. I don't have the list on okay That's risky protectorates If we get if there's a dispute it will be resolved in our arbitration peerage court Orbit ration called court will come to order done by fiat okay

42:25 Alright, so we'll put him on the list for that. And we'll give him some karma right? We definitely should. Hold on here's the karma. You've got Karma. Whoa! Anonymous $222.20 from München Deutschland He did leave a note saying make sure I'm anonymous Okay Sir Upper Decker in Escondido $200 as a knight I would like to request you add an option for your knighting ceremony. Oh brother, get your pen out? Wait a minute... Dos Equis and Dutch Dominatrix

43:05 In honor of Adam's trip to Holland and my sexy Dutch fiancé. Do we have a picture of her? Sir Upperdecker I want to see her in leather Okay, here we go And does he need anything? He has no car park. Okay, we don't okay dose Equis and dutch dominatrix is added is added sir HFMIC Oh, by the way this note was cut off. He sent a couple of them he's I think he was very drunk Did you it was but he was plowed? Did you get an email from him that because I said I got one sent me What do we have from him we have? The meanings apart if part of a note

43:50 Now you know what, we'd like to get someone who reads full notes when he wants us to. As a knight I would like to request that you add an option... Wait no, it's below that. HFMIC 200 bucks from Montpelier, Vermont been meaning to donate and now following through after seeing the meager offerings of the last few shows Sunday show is always low despite Out fucking stander stand out standing is what he really wants to say Analysis and value delivered to touch on a point you brought up a few shows ago regarding DOD advising troops on there Oh, I think it was on their taking Flags and symbols off of their cars in their houses don't don't fly flags because Isis is gonna come and kill ya Yeah, they're gonna kill you the ISIS. Yeah

44:38 He sent a couple of notes and he was like, I'm drunk. And it's just...I'm drunk! Okay. Well, we have to stop interrupting him. Well, I have a clip that actually replies to this little bit. Okay? But let's finish with Ed Laboutier And he just sent in Ed Labudia, sent in 200 bucks from Hesperia California. All he wants us to do is pronounce his name correctly. You did and what were you missed when I left out Dowie? Dow-wah and Ella from Mars than that dick. I think that where'd you get the S there's no s it's Martin's dike Martins dike yeah exactly martin's dike

45:24 Yeah, yeah 200 bucks and what do you have the good work? I'm sick of the MSM since the m8 17 like many Dutchies. Yeah people are getting very annoyed by this Good and there's a human and that's any The booty ain't never done we get that's 200 bucks 200 bucks for both those two guys And let's show 672 we want to remind people doing another show coming up on Thursday hot and that'll be Show 673 and go to Dvorak.org slash NA to help us finance that show and the ones in the future that we need money for Absolutely, these are of course official credits And they're good wherever credits are accepted Unlike the phonies in Hollywood We'd be very happy to vouch for you Dvorak dot org Slash N A In addition to that kind of support We always like your propagating formula Our formula is this

CHAPTER 17 / 47 Discussion

Kenya Bus Attack, Al-Shabaab Quran Recitation Test

Al-Shabaab gunmen killed 28 people in northern Kenya after singling out victims who could not recite passages from the Quran. This event prompts a discussion on the ability of religious individuals to memorize scripture under pressure.

kenya· al-shabaab· quran· terrorism· psalm 121· france 24

46:20 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Because that was mentioned about the flags and you know, the nonsense about ISIS. There was an interesting incident I think this is an Al-Shabaab incident. And I have a clip which gives...I think this gives you some idea of what you might want to just maybe do in your spare time if you like to memorize certain things play it play them memorized clip. Hold on one second. This was on what again?

47:03 This was on France 24, I believe. 28 people were killed today in a pre-dawn attack on a bus in northern Kenya when as they say al Shabaab gunmen singled out the targets by asking them to recite a passage from the Quran those who could not were shot in the head oh yeah this story Yeah, that was KTVU our local station. Memorize it! You know you say something and you're good to go. Crazy... That's really interesting I mean i would assume that most Muslims don't have a chapter in verse they can just spew

47:41 I mean, I know most people can't do that with biblical stuff. I lift up my eyes unto the hills from whence cometh my help, my help coming from the Lord he that shall protect thee so the sun shall not burn thee by day nor the moon by night What are you reading? That's Psalm 121 No i'm not reading it, that's for memory Some of you remember Yes Memorized yes, that's our going away prayer in The Curry family Oh Isn't that interesting It is very interesting Every single... I don't think we ever talked about this Sounds very Cultish. Yeah, I think we are a cult. Whenever we would leave the homestead Mead Road which is where my dad grew up and the grandparents had that place until they passed away and then it's where Don is now

CHAPTER 18 / 47 Discussion

Curry Family Traditions, Psalm 121 Ritual

The Curry family maintains a tradition where the oldest grandchild recites Psalm 121 whenever the family departs from their homestead. The hosts discuss the ritualistic nature of this practice and its intersection with personal superstitions and obsessive-compulsive tendencies.

psalm 121· family tradition· prayer· superstition· tourette's· ocd

48:27 Three ponds, I think it's called. He calls it now." So when you leave is there a garden in front? Yes! And the red seagull flies at night?! Are we all standing there listening to that? You're allowed to pass?? Listen to me... so when everyone's leaving from one of these gatherings but not just when Mickey and I were there but if there was a whole bunch of family then we all stand in circles- It IS cultist crap We stand in a circle, hold hands and then the youngest grandchild no, the oldest grandchild has to read Psalm 121. And I'm always happy when Lucy is there, or Allison because you never want to go oh crap! I gotta read the prayer. Well this is interesting yeah and then where did this derive?

49:14 I'm sorry? Where did this come from, who started it? Well this is the way it's been up there ever since... It goes back to when they were... I have no idea. It's called... Who knows, Yelzabub perhaps? Psalm 121! Is not the devil. Say it again Like now I can't do not really conscious of it. It's really bad I lift up my eyes and to the hills from whence cometh my help My help cometh on the Lord he that shall shelter me so the sunshine a Burmese by day nor the moon by night And something like that well, let's work so far well This is a good point

49:53 And you're superstitious anyway, so. Oh yeah I do well that's part of the OCD Tourette thing a lot of people have that don't step on the cracks and I have to say Cinco de Mayo Actually i remember in this special I saw in the Tourette's and a lot of tourettes sufferers You won't step on a crack and they won't step on a line. They do crazy things like that, or if they see a pen that's not sitting in the right place they move it. I'm not that bad No but you're a neat freak Not really But believe me, I should know Right How do you know?

CHAPTER 19 / 47 Discussion

UK Terror Plot, Beheading Allegations and Grey Tracksuits

Three men appeared in a UK court charged with an imminent plot to behead a member of the public. The suspects, who were detained in armed raids, reportedly laughed and joked during the hearing while wearing standard police-issue grey tracksuits.

westminster magistrates court· old bailey· beheading plot· high wycombe· terrorism· grey tracksuits

50:32 because I can spot a neat freak a mile away. I'm not all that neat and i always think to myself, huh? I wonder if he got his training in the army or he's got Tourette's you've always thought that huh yes actually I have alright So while we're being frightened on France 24, BBC has their own version of it. Within an hour of the charges being announced the three men were driven into Westminster Magistrates Court in two dark blue armoured high security police vans they were accompanied by unmarked cars The hearing lasted less than an hour and a district judge quickly passed the case onto the Old Bailey The suspects didn't ask for bail

51:17 The three men appeared in the dock in standard police issue grey tracksuits and laughed and joked through parts of the hearing. Listen to this, laughed and joked! At the heart of their charges against them is that there was an alleged imminent plot to behead a member of the public in England They were detained in dramatic armed raids at High Wycombe and West London three days before Remembrance Sunday. Am I living in a television show? Hey! I hear you're gonna chop someone's head off, you're under arrest. They could have thrown him in a cab

51:57 you know those giant armored vehicles that protect these dangerous men who have somehow said they were thinking about cutting some people's heads off. I mean it's one thing to say they were plotting a bomb because then you even Even if it's not true, at least you'll think now they had ammonia. They bought that and nails and shrapnel and pressure cookers a beauty salon Yeah I mean I got all kinds of visuals that are all good to go You know but then when you say gonna cut people's heads off So what were they doing like sharpening their blades? You know this doesn't sound like a real big offense yeah, huh? Yeah, I think it's gonna be hard to prove

CHAPTER 20 / 47 Discussion

UKIP Election Victory, Mark Reckless and Geert Wilders

The anti-EU UKIP party won its second seat in the British Parliament, a story that received significant coverage in the Netherlands due to parallels with Dutch politician Geert Wilders. The victory involved a former Conservative member switching sides to align with shifting voter sentiment.

ukip· mark reckless· british parliament· geert wilders· anti-eu· local elections

52:37 That's why they were laughing and joking. Well, you know the thing is some of these guys I mean we had this with those characters that were caught in the Florida warehouse They're plotting a scheme Those three clowns are four clowns. They were they were dumb morons. It was dumb and dumber alpha There were just these dumb guys Cool man whatever kind of joshing with each other and the next thing you know there in jail yeah Of course, they probably should be but it's beside the point just for being stupid. Fantastic! So on UKIP I do have a British clip since we're in Britain there for a second. UKIP grows by one! Now it was a local election but the eyes of a nation and indeed the world were on it The anti-EU right wing UKIP party have won a second seat in British Parliament That was front page news here...I did see it

53:30 So the world was on it, but it wasn't in the United States. Nobody cares or even knows what UKIP is. Yeah But that was actually a story picked up in Holland? Oh yeah because you can all because that's another reason to talk about Geert Wilders You know, so Ukip blah-blah member in parliament but you know he couldn't work it out with Geert Wilders the crazy guy on the right! Crazy bugger. He's nuts look at his crazy hair yeah and somehow a lot of people still vote for him very funny how that works you know it was one of those and I may be very Dutch also...I'm going to say this but I'm gonna do that

54:15 Yeah, yeah I guess it is stupid. Why don't we just why don't we just say because people? Don't its politically correctness It's just what a really came from that's really an unnatural state anyway So they got one but he used to be a Cameron guy He used to be a conservative and they know that he switched sides hmm does you know what he did was he looked at the way the winds blowing in his area as district and he said I better do this or I'm gonna get kicked out of here by some UKIP guy who actually comes in as a real UKIP." That's what it was. Anyway... There was something pretty significant that happened in European Parliament, and I think probably got zero coverage. No one even knows it here. It's something that we've looked at before in a lot of the dealings during the Euro crisis

CHAPTER 21 / 47 Discussion

European Banking Union, Single Supervisory Mechanism Inauguration

The European Union has inaugurated the Single Supervisory Mechanism (SSM), centralizing the oversight of all banks within the Eurozone under the European Central Bank. Officials described the move as a "revolution" in financial architecture and a major step toward deeper European integration.

single supervisory mechanism· european central bank· brussels· mario draghi· banking union· financial architecture

55:09 They celebrated the singular or the single supervisory mechanism which has now been put in place. And this is a financial... It's not an agreement, maybe I don't know exactly what the legal form of this is but it's all the banks now are controlled from Brussels and the European Central Bank every single bank in every country in the EU zone And Heiko Hermann is still here. I guess he gets to sit all the way up until January 1st or December 31st, and he celebrated along with everybody else as one of his final... This is the whipped cream and the icing really on top of the Heiko Hermann cake! It's a great pleasure to be here and take the floor at this important moment

56:00 Take the floor. This guy's great. Don't take the floor! This is clownish Yeah, yes I'm glad you see it that way too Today's inauguration of the single supervisory mechanism Supervisory? That's what... Supervisory Signals a revolution in Europe's financial architecture A revolution The definition of a revolution Is they captured something They overtook something These words matter Just as importantly, we are celebrating the opening of a new chapter in the wider history of European integration.

56:39 The banking union is the biggest leap forward since the creation of the euro. The banking union? Cool! It is for me a particular satisfaction to celebrate the breakthrough today at the very end of my European mandate, which has been so much shaped by our crisis response. Oh yes! You're so awesome thank you for saving us. It feels as if la boucle est bouclée. Hey, la boucle est bouclée! What? Michael Boublet, the boucle de bouclé, it's a French thing. As we are...as if we are coming full circle I guess it means as if we are as if we are coming full circle

57:28 I also want to take this occasion... Comes around, goes around. That's got to be what it is. Oh! Makes sense On these premises to thank the European Central Bank Aha! Thank you And in particular its two presidents Jean-Claude Trichet and Mario Draghi Aw man These guys are all congratulating each other too I'm surprised they're not pinning medals on each other. Who'd you wait for their role in taming the crisis of the eurozone? Put that in the book, put that in the book! They already have the SASH thing going on yeah put it in the book. I'm putting it in. Medals to be awarded to European EU politicians just...I think that's broad enough any politician can be awarded a medal

58:13 I didn't quite understand that. He's talking about... Let me hear that last little bit one more time. I was like, what are you saying about it? Is it new currency? I didn't quite get that. It was a little... Crisis of the Eurozone and shaping a new European currency for the world financial system A new European... Yeah no he is talking about it as the euro. The work is not over The four presidents report on a genuine economic and monetary union is a roadmap for the upcoming years. The next frontier will be to move towards closer economic policy coordination. Yeah! Closer economic policy coordination... In other words, do what we say? Yes, when we're putting medals on each others' breasts

59:11 This is when you will do as we say with your money. The challenge will now be to bring back sustainable growth and jobs Bring back some growth in the jobs, this will be the challenge Here also We must put aside taboos Taboos? How about the caboose in your taboos What did he say? He said he meant taboos Taboo as in taboos things. Oh taboo, but it says taboose Back sustainable growth and jobs here also we must put aside to boost This is a lot of people who listen to this show and really hate it when we laugh at people how they pronounce stuff

59:57 It's great ideology obsession. I have no, I'm messing it up now. It's not just taboos its ideologies hold on side to boost the booze ideology obsessions and be pragmatic and result oriented. The booze? I don't know ladies and gentlemen without growth and jobs The European idea itself is in danger. But we can overcome... What is the European idea then? Just enslave everybody! Yeah, yeah you got it. Economic policies are not an aim in themselves. Financial stability is not an aim in itself

1:00:44 We are doing this to safeguard and increase prosperity for all Europeans. We're going to save you, and they're gonna give me a medal for it after I've saved you... Europeans? To consolidate and deepen our European projects. Hmm! Consolidate and deepen our project. When we keep this fundamental inspiration in mind. Is- is he like as a...? a high school assignment, their projects. This is like insane! Yes I know this is exactly what it was when I was watching TV and got this like... It's happening here John, its happening Of course it is Next thing you know they'll take the bikes away and Germans will be running everything When we find out stuff

CHAPTER 22 / 47 Discussion

Angela Merkel Spying Probe, BND and NSA Relations

German authorities have dropped the probe into the NSA's alleged spying on Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone, citing a lack of evidence. The discussion touches on the capabilities of the German BND intelligence agency compared to the Russian FSB and American CIA.

angela merkel· nsa· bnd· germany· espionage· fsb

1:01:29 You're right though, man. You're so right! Oh by the way the probe into the US NSA spying on Angela Merkel The Germans said oh you know turns out that was nothing didn't really happen So we were just stopping with a probe it's all good now We're fine didn't really happen It was just some phony baloney report Some quid pro quo we don't have any idea of Exactly How about that? Yeah, she was all miffed about it. And I guess finally one of her own spy agency went up to him and said don't worry about it. This is bullshit. He says we've already got this other stuff that's all balanced out. Everything's good! The BND the German intelligence they're good. I hear that from Agent Orange like pfff...BND guys are the best in the world he thinks better than CIA you know

1:02:17 Really well, maybe domestically. I don't know about how they will internationally It's pretty hard to beat us but the Russians what it what is their thing? It's what's there is that KGB anywhere something else FSB yeah FSB Yeah Well you did say your time by the FSB What's the German one? No, no. It's BND. The German is the BND. FSB right? FSB is better than the FSB? Hey man! Why are you questioning my sources?! I'm just asking...I don't know! Rhetorically. Yeah, that's what I heard. Well that's why I put it out there so I can get some feedback from one of these guys who knows.

1:02:59 And is BND just domestic and foreign, or is this separated out like the MI6-5? I don't know. Why don't you look it up? I don't know. I don't care. I do not care! This is a new John I'm hearing. Yeah... I just don't care. California's finally caught up with me. That's sad. Well okay into the military industrial complex we go then outside of intelligence This is one of our producers was watching Disney Junior with his human resource who is two. Two year olds would like that channel, of course! And here is a little toy involved but it's a family and this is

CHAPTER 23 / 47 Discussion

Disney Junior Militarization, Saluting the Air Force

A segment on Disney Junior encouraging children to salute military parents is criticized as a form of early-childhood militarization. The hosts also discuss the increasing presence of patriotic rituals at sporting events, such as singing "America the Beautiful" with armed guards during baseball games.

disney junior· air force· militarization· propaganda· national anthem· baseball

1:03:47 I don't have the name of this spot, but have a listen. Be inspired with Disney Junior to salute those who serve our country just like Riley's dad! My daddy is in the air force In the air force my husband keeps all our equipment running and um all the jets in the air I like playing with my dad and I like coloring with him We Skype almost every morning me and the kids My daddy makes me laugh What? You gotta back it up...I like to play with my Dad and call him a Russian Is that what you said Okay, my daddy's in the Air Force. In the Air Force, my husband keeps all of our equipment running and um... All of the jets in the air I play with my dad and I call him Russian I think you're right! I call him Russian Almost every morning The spy

1:04:42 My daddy makes me proud. There are lots of brave people who protect our country, even Doc has a pal she's extra proud of! Ready to serve? Ready to serve! It's better than you and me! Lord have some love for you! He is willing to sacrifice...that is the best kind of toy to be. For courage strength and fun! Be inspired with Doc and Disney Junior to say thanks to those who keep our country safe No, there's no militarization taking place. Nothing to see here! I'll tell you what bothers me the most... This is all just a...I don't know what the point of any of this is these little kids aren't paying attention but it's when they've changed the baseball besides having a big to-do at the beginning of a game where they sing the national anthem and all this which I think by the way sporting events and

1:05:39 this proud to be an American combination. I think it's demeaning to America, to be honest about it. Of course it is! But then now in the seventh inning instead of the seventh inning stretch where you take a little time off so they can do the field and smooth things out... And then they used to sing Take Me Out To The Ball Game just to kill some time Now they've changed it to singing America The Beautiful with armed guards I'm not going to do this.

1:06:23 It's just dumb. Why not? You're already in a fighting kind of mood, you know it was your guys against their guys this is the whole thing! That's just the American version of the people here sitting here waiting for the Germans to come and take their bikes away again. It's the same thing. Which has happened It's the same thing. You're going to get your bikes taken away again! That is so offensive, you have no idea... Sure they are all offended by it but that's not true The EU is great and we have a lot of listeners who are big They're very...it's like the global warming of Europe Yeah So right along these lines there was one of our producers sent in

CHAPTER 24 / 47 Discussion

Halifax International Security Forum, Fortress North America

Senator John McCain led a congressional delegation to the Halifax International Security Forum to discuss the creation of a "Fortress North America." McCain used the threat of ISIS to justify increased military cooperation and spending between the United States and Canada.

halifax· john mccain· isis· fortress north america· military industrial complex· canada

1:07:08 some info about this security forum that was being held in Califax. I meant Halifax, when i say Calif- Halifax! Sorry from now on it'll be known as Califax and this uh forum is known as Fortress North America so and um this is a guess let me see who's running this well it's obviously just you know it's military industrial complex and sent us this clip On this forum and if you look around, you'll see This is really just where they have the tanks on sale and all the cool guns. It's a gun show. It's a trade show

1:07:47 Yeah, and they're great. And one of their featured speakers of course who you expect at a show that likes to sell Dick Cheney stuff that kills brown people in sandy areas. Dick Cheney! No come on the guy that guys is zombie You know how about someone who's in Congress now? Oh Rogers Think bigger asshole I think bigger asshole than Rogers? Yeah. Think bigger asshole Alright, tell me. John McCain! Welcome back to the West Blog from the Halifax International Security Forum I want to point out something here we have the largest congressional delegation ever to come to Canada led by Senator John McCain of Arizona and Tim Cain for Virginia thanks very much as senator McCain you've been involved in this forum since the beginning

1:08:36 You're obviously seized with the issue of how we operate here in North America, especially cooperatively. What do you think about the idea of creating a greater fortress North America? Does that make any sense to you?" Well, it makes a lot of sense to me because I think that there's very little doubt of what the intentions of ISIS and other terrorist organizations. But this guy... Are they gonna come over here with their fighter jets or their battleships? Their submarines man! They're on their way with their floating Toyotas and their white sneakers. With the pontoons on each side of it to top in the pack! Yeah, this is... They got the design from Haiti Exactly This is why we need you know to have more more more more more Now I'll be the first to say economically speaking outside of the petrodollar It's all we got so we might as well

1:09:31 And we're doing a good job because we're selling stuff. We just sold $1.2 billion worth of C-17s to Australia, which is four of them by the way and 600 million to Iraq in cool stuff It's all in the show notes, by the way. It's all registered. We both agree that this is good for the economy. Right? So let's listen to the rest of this guy who is...so the only problem I have he's sitting there just giving you some really bull crap to justify doing this and the problem is I don't mind you building it and selling it to other people but eventually you have to light

1:10:15 It sucks. You just kill people particularly as we see them strengthening and enlarging their influence throughout the Middle East Mr.. Baghdadi who is the leader as we know of Isis who spent four years in our camp hookah in Iraq? Wait a minute I thought we got him didn't mean like hurt him to me chop an arm off or something no That's another guy with the same name on his way out the door said to his American captors then He's a bullshit story by the way, New York Really? Didn't I just set that up by telling you he was just talking crap and yeah known for his sense of humor Oh, it's not known for a sense of humor. So I don't think there's any doubt that He says Baghdadi is not known to be so he does not know him for a sense of human riot By the way, there are pictures of McCain in Baghdad II

1:11:13 It's like the same pictures of McCain and I wonder about those videos. Me too, it's hard to say. It's got Photoshop written all over it. It should be at least. Director of National Intelligence, director of the CIA and our director of Homeland Security have all stated that ISIS over time pose a direct threat to the United States of America and that, of course means Canada as well. Don't you remember? Oh those ISIS guys who got Canada in their sights Yeah You know why? Crosshairs You know why they have Canada in their crosshairs? And you know why they hate the Canadians Because of their... For their freedom That's the same as here They're jealous I don't know if I can remember that it was so simple They hate them for their freedom

CHAPTER 25 / 47 Discussion

Serena Shim Death, Turkish Intelligence Allegations

American journalist Serena Shim was killed in a suspicious car accident in Turkey shortly after reporting that Turkish intelligence had accused her of spying. Shim had been investigating the smuggling of militants into Syria using World Food Program trucks as cover.

serena shim· turkey· press tv· syria· militants· world food program· espionage

1:12:06 Well in a related note, I've got three clips that kind of I'm directing these at McCain. Good, let's start with the story nobody knows about in the United States that I can tell and this is...these are reports and I'll tell you in advance these are reports from RT needling us, you know? They like to do that. Many of the reports...RT is a very entertaining news network especially if they have the channel RT not just occasional RT show I get to watch all the stuff. They're constantly needling us in one way or another, and here's a good one... This is the dead journalist in Turkey story that you've never heard of!

1:12:47 Moscow, good to have you with us. Our top story this hour— The U.S. prides itself on defending its citizens abroad, but the mysterious death of a U.S. journalist working in Turkey for PressTV has so far failed to trigger reaction from Washington. Gayan Ececikian looks at more. It's been a month since the death of journalist Serena Shim in Turkey and the investigation is still yet to release any information On October 19th, Serena's rental car collided with a cement truck Exactly two days after she claimed Turkish intelligence had accused her of spying and threatened her. I'm very surprised at this accusation.

1:13:45 I am a bit frightened about what they might use against me. Turkish police say her death was an accident We at RT have requested a comment from the Turkish authorities and are yet to receive an answer All right, wait a minute Now by the way i want you to look her up so you see what she looks like Because you know my next question What's her name? Serena S-E-R-E-N-A Shrem S-H-I-M S H I M Okay let's see if she is hot See if she's this is like. This is the downfall of the show okay your pre-launches beautiful She's gorgeous yeah nice eyes, and she's pretty and she did you know where they had great in the headpiece in the so she got killed nobody's talking about this because she works for that crazy operation at a that Iranian car accident Yeah, well cement truck

1:14:40 Apparently, well then where she or pull right in front of I'm looking at pictures. Yeah not looking good Okay Now she sees a dead woman So the play part two and this is where it gets kind of interesting when they discuss what she was working on Serena Shin had been actively reporting on militants being smuggled into Syria from Turkey I got images of them in World Food Organization trucks over the past years has been accused of turning a blind eye to and even aiding the inflow of militants into Syria. They're just pulling that same stunt again with the UN World Food Programme, it's a complete weapons pipeline! As the story goes on it turns out many of ISIS fighters are coming directly from Turkey through these bullcrap organizations and just joining ISIS right through Turkey and she has got goods on them so they killed her

1:15:33 Now, at the same time I've got this clip while this is going on and we are just oblivious to it. Hold on a second! Where are these journalists who fight for journalistic integrity? Where's Grenn Greenwald? Where's Jeremy Scahill? Where's Laura Poitras?! Where is the outrage in the journalistic community? They haven't gotten their walking orders. They don't know, you know they're doing what they're told to do. Then let us be outraged for her! Well we should be yes now was she a real journalist or is she some spy? I believe so well she could have been a spy but uh... Well this is important to know. She's working for us. She was our spy yeah she's our spy. I believe that it's just a possibility. You can't go cement trucking our spies

CHAPTER 26 / 47 Discussion

Joe Biden in Turkey, ISIS Proxy State Theories

Vice President Joe Biden visited Turkey to urge a more active role in the fight against ISIS, while Turkish President Erdogan remains focused on toppling Bashar al-Assad. Speculation arises that Turkey is using ISIS as a proxy state to manage Kurdish populations and expand regional influence.

joe biden· turkey· erdogan· isis· syria· humanitarian aid· pkk

1:16:18 So now we play Biden and Turkey. Hold on, this will not stand! That's right, Biden was over there... Oh man You're on to something here, John. You're onto something big I can feel it already Biden wants Turkey to step up its role in the fight against Islamic State extremists The Turkish president wants the US to focus less on fighting the terrorists and more on toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad Biden also announced that the U.S will give an additional 135 million dollars in humanitarian aid feeds civilians affected by Syria's civil war. Hmm, humanitarian aid!

1:16:55 So something's up here and Turkey is right in the middle of it. We suspected this sometimes... We knew this was gonna happen, we knew it would happen. But exactly how the rift is going to take... I mean we tried to overthrow this guy with some of our tech experts and the rest are twittering over that park and there has been some riots and they backed him off. Yeah that didn't work out and then he got rid all the grueliness... We weren't as effective as we were in Ukraine But I don't know, we have to do something because this can't stand. If the scenario we've created with the ISIS threat being bolstered by the Turks which are screwing things up so they can somehow get involved at some point...I don't know, I don't have an overall thesis all i know is that this is taking place, this woman's death as part of it and Biden's over there trying to do something he's just a schmuck

1:17:50 He's the messenger boy. They send him with messengers, but he probably told them to just stop doing something and then you know idea no there was something that we don't know let me just see what What Serena Shim's background is? She has a very very very small wiki page for someone with journalistic here it's journalist of Lebanese descent This is her entire wiki page. What is this? There was no wiki pages While covering the siege of Kobani as a war correspondent for press TV, she was killed in a car crash That's the entire intro and then biography American citizen of Lebanese origin They've already got it past tense so they wrote this after she died Interesting In her biography that has one line

1:18:46 Serena Shim, a 29-year old American citizen of Lebanese origin covered reports for Press TV in Lebanon and Iraq and Ukraine. She was married and had two children." This is new biography! Yeah it just popped up probably wasn't anything there before. Accusation of spying by Turkey here we go Shimtol Press TV, the Turkish national intelligence organization MIT had accused her of spying. She stated that it is probably due to some of the stories she had covered about Turkey's stance on Islamic State of Iraq and Levant militants in Kobani." All right so yeah they accused her being a spy. Yeah and then killed her. Unfortunate accident! No I said terrible coincidence. It was very you know funny

1:19:35 But anyway, so that's what going on. They're using these NGOs as cover to move people from God knows what part of the Turkish government or military into ISIS to work with them and take over the place for some reason I think Turkey has got expansionist ideas And they're... In what direction? What do you mean expansionist. I think they want to expand Turkey, you know they were always worried about the Kurds being a part of this thing let's just take over the place So what would so what they would want northern Iraq that would want Kurdistan Yeah i think so Why not why wouldn't it Don't have a big problem with the PKK though is that That's why they have to get rid of the PKK in order to do it

1:20:19 Yeah, if you surround everybody by taking over the place. I think there's a definite... Although I think they'll use it as a proxy state ISIS is a proxy state doing Turkish. When they were bombing that Kobani area and that northern part of Syria or that part of Syria near the border they had there all they showed lots of b-roll all along during that entire episode of The Turkish army with all those tanks just standing there. I just stand as though They were gonna do something about to what was going on But no, they were just there to protect the border and make sure that things didn't go south for the Isis folks hmm well

1:21:02 They're in it to their... right up to their neck with ISIS, these guys. Yeah and you know the Fatah al-Ghulam hasn't been very successful with any kind of internal strife that's our guy in Pennsylvania Our guy didn't cut it? The whole thing fell apart they didn't have any made on deal? You know there's a problem like if we were having the meeting I mean, I'd say it's very simple. There is only one thing we can do for Turkey. We got to give them some Ebola." I don't think they're going to get Ebola...I would guess the only real action that could be taken is assassination. Yeah which wouldn't be the first time they tried to kill him. Yeah he has been...I think yeah but I'm gonna put in the red book that he will be gone. I think that's already in the red book. I think we already predicted... Erdogan was gonna get shot?

CHAPTER 27 / 47 Discussion

French Jihadists, ISIS Online Recruitment Memes

French media is highlighting the "self-radicalization" of citizens joining ISIS, focusing on the group's supposedly sophisticated online propaganda. The hosts question the narrative that a group of militants in Toyota trucks possesses superior digital marketing skills compared to Western agencies.

france· isis· jihadists· syria· online recruitment· propaganda· twitter

1:22:00 Or poisoned or something. He's gotta be freaking out! Yeah, oh interesting always fun to watch... Die! Meanwhile of course in France There's a big scandal because of the Frenchmen joining ISIS and this is kind of interesting. Okay, I hadn't heard this even though i'm not that far... To focus on the French citizens who are continuing to join the ranks of the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq That's right now an estimated 400 of French citizens are believed to be fighting alongside the Islamic state group It's really been in the spotlight this week in particular after it emerged that at least one French citizen had been identified

1:22:41 video that was put online by the Islamic State group. This is the front page of Le Croix, the Christian paper. It's wondering who are these French jihadists? And it takes a closer look inside interviews some specialists to try to put together profile who are these young French citizens who go fight jihad well according to this article they're often isolated people who are are, you know have become self-radicalized online and that kind of prized hunting ground the world wide web. That is the focus of Liberation today. The prize hunting ground we're living in one of those Hunger Games movies here John you and I. It's like yeah now here's what by I heard this second part of this clip which you're gonna play which is Frenchman 2

1:23:28 I realize this meme, well i know we've maybe touched on bitching about it but i think we really have to start to complain about this particular meme which is at this point now getting on my nerves. They talk about the online jihad and they point out that the Islamic State group is very active online, it has very good communication skills online. And well this propaganda often works and that's how they manage to attract these young French citizens to Syria in Iraq Online the meme is that these guys are really good. Yeah online They're really online and how does this well? How does this why are these guys so talented supposedly with online propaganda Twittering they tweet, so well well That's easy it's bullcrap as they were trained by Hillary Clinton Must have been techno experts yeah

1:24:25 Absolutely. This is bull, oh well. But I'm getting annoyed by how talented the ISIS people are on... There are a bunch of guys driving around Toyota trucks with machine guns strapped to the back of these things and hooting with kind of a generic flag that they got swinging around and chopping peoples stuff up. I am very ummm....I like alot of...let's put it this way you have much stricter filters on your email than i do So I get a lot of stuff and I do have to implement filters when i just can't get rid of it. And then, not necessarily spam but there's a lot of promotional things that I get and I'm always interested in seeing what people are doing. And I am pretty open and susceptible to getting stuff including Nigerian Princess stuff and PayPal. Hello Paypal member! Please click here update your account profile with password.

1:25:19 But I have just never ever, ever come across any ISIS recruitment. You know i'm on Twitter a lot now...I presume that I don't have to speak Arabic and all the Arabic tweets that you know that's not how they recruit just kind of people who are ready to be self-radicalized? No! I have no idea but all I know is they're great at it yeah well if people believe what they want to believe All right. So Biden was also in, he went to Ukraine? Yeah he's been on the move. Well that's in his portfolio it's always been... Ukraine has always been his deal and then they release a fact sheet I'm on all of the White House news feeds some of its just fascinating sometimes you know we had got to talk about remind me to talk about the Afghanistan extension like just gonna be there another year don't need to talk about

CHAPTER 28 / 47 Discussion

US Assistance to Ukraine, IMF and Sovereign Bonds

Vice President Joe Biden announced a $20 million aid package for Ukrainian law enforcement and $3 million for food rations. The US has also guaranteed a $1 billion sovereign bond for Ukraine as part of an IMF-led effort to stabilize the country's financial sector following the 2014 change in government.

ukraine· joe biden· imf· sovereign bonds· kiev· osce· military aid

1:26:24 US assistance to Ukraine. Now what we hear from our government and the media's message is Russia has taken over, they're encroaching, they're crossing, you know, redrawing borders... They are just total revisionist Russia crazy guys taking over the whole country! Does that sound right? Yeah or no?! They are horrible people! Listen what we're doing The United States remains firmly committed to supporting Ukraine as it works to establish security, restore economic stability, strengthen the rule of law, advance the fight against corruption and carry out democratic and constitutional reforms. Bingo! Boom shakalaka! The United States stands with Ukrainian people in their choice of democracy reform and European integration... Your Choice!!! Now in pursuit of these objectives Vice President Biden announced today in Kiev

1:27:17 That pending approval from Congress, the White House will commit $20 million to support comprehensive reform in the Ukrainian law enforcement and justice sectors including prosecutorial and anti-corruption reforms. The Vice President also announced the U.S. will be directing an additional 3 million to the UN World Food Program emergency operation Ukraine for food rations and assistance to people displaced by the conflict in Eastern Ukraine And then I'll just skip down a little bit. Here are the, this is the whole fact sheet examples of US assistance to Ukraine in response to crisis include the following economic stabilization reform and growth Ukraine issued a 1 billion dollar sovereign bond fully guaranteed by the United States. What? Yeah yeah well we know that

1:28:00 Can't they guarantee their own bonds? The US loan guarantee was part of a coordinated international effort to ensure Ukraine has the resources it needs, providing 27 billion to Ukraine as it implements its IMF program. Hello you people! Citizens of Ukraine, YOU are the IMF program just so you know. The government...the U.S. government deployed... Here's immediately following Ukraine's change in government The Putsch in March, the US government deployed advisors to help stabilize the financial sector and implement key reforms in partnership with the Ukrainian Finance Ministry and National Bank. Who's taking over the country? You might ask yourself. EU where they did a big deal with the EU? Remember it was Russia or the EU but who sends advisors well that would be us

1:29:02 We've got Georgia as one of our buddies with the George Bush airport. And we might as well have these guys because we were creating the buffer state that Russia wanted to create, but it's us! But what is the point? Why not? I think it's impossible that we think the EU is so incompetent and boneheaded, that unless we set the... We stabilize and set the foundation correctly they'll just screw it up. John, I think I have to remind you Does that ring any bells?

1:29:49 I can see why Putin's irked. Yeah, and what he's got to be thinking to himself is doesn't anybody else see this? It's so obvious what's going on now. Well yeah that's it's exactly what we talked about earlier say this do that people you know Russia crazy horrible revisionist nutball taking a case hey dog taking over the Ukraine invading sovereign no word listen we We are in, we're running the government. The finance sector here security sector where a government committed equipment and training to Ukraine's security forces this assistance includes provision of body armor helmets vehicles night and thermal vision devices heavy engineering equipment advanced radios patrol boats rations patrol boats

1:30:39 Foul, tense counter-mortar radars uniforms first aid equipment supplies and other related items falling under the other category. The United States has also begun a process led by the EU European Command and Department of Defense civilian and military experts sounds like consultants to work with Ukraine to improve its capacity to provide for its own defense we gotta teach you we teach your democracy we teach you how to kill people when you tell me tell YouTube This includes medical and security assistance, and then there's national unity democracy and human rights and media. Oh John would you like to hear we're doing how we're helping the people of Ukraine? Oh yes! You gotta say yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah I love that guy The United States has contributed funding and personnel to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe That's the OSCE here so much about

1:31:36 the special monitoring mission that is monitoring and providing daily reporting, particularly in the conflict regions in the East. That's United States not Europe, not Ukraine, United States during Ukraine's presidential parliamentary elections this year US assistance supported the work of international and domestic election observers. Here's how it goes Hey hey listen do you see what I'm seeing? Oh you don't see it that way oh I'm sorry You saw wrong I am monitoring This is really bad. Election observers as well as efforts to strengthen election administration? Yeah, we're good at that! How'd that George Bush thing work with Al Gore? Yeah, we're very good...at votes. Voter education, election security and independent media?! Oh I guess i must have missed my invitation

CHAPTER 29 / 47 Discussion

Ukrainian Constitutional Reform, Broadcasting Board of Governors

The United States is actively assisting Ukraine with constitutional reforms and "voter education" through the Broadcasting Board of Governors. This includes launching Russian-language television programs produced by Radio Free Europe to counter local narratives and align Ukraine with European standards.

ukraine· broadcasting board of governors· radio free europe· wto· constitutional reform· propaganda

1:32:32 US Assistance is also supporting Ukrainian constitutional reform efforts. And now they just closed their coalition, so they have five parties now together will be the coalition of this 300 person parliament and now that they have a coalition, they can now change the constitution and that is what we are assisting Supporting Ukrainian constitutional reform efforts that will drive decentralization and help Ukraine meet European constitutional standards. Well, okay! The US government is supporting civil society organizations NGOs to engage in public outreach participate in the government reform process and monitor and defend human rights And here we go the Broadcasting Board of Governors We know who they are don't we John?

1:33:29 No, I don't. Yes you do they're the ones who wanted the Smith-Mundt Act overturned Oh those guys yes So he propagandized the public at large? Yes The broadcasting board of governors BBG launched Russian language television news programs airing in Ukraine that are produced by Radio Free Europe slash radio Liberty RFE slash FL and the voice of America as well as multi-language and the voice of America. So instead of letting the Ukrainians do their own damn news, we're like taking over their stations and broadcasting it as though it was local? And we have multi language websites devoted to events in Crimea! You've been listening to our news?!

1:34:21 And then we got RT like saying, hey I'm just being a bad boy by saying these things. We're running their shit! And also of course we are providing some energy security to the helpless people of Ukraine. The US government is working with other international donors. Who could that be? International donors... What is this?! The US government is working with other international donors to help Ukraine develop strategies to ensure that energy subsidy programs are targeting the most vulnerable Ukrainians and to increase and use energy efficiency including among households in the industrial sector. A new program will accelerate new investments in energy efficiency. Hello, this is the sales office calling we got shit for sale here people

1:35:20 Please enter the international donor line. Who are these international donors? Well, they can join in a new program to accelerate investments in energy efficiency! There'll be a trade show next. Definitely it's going to be great. Selling to Ukraine that will be the name of it. No strengthening Ukraine Something like that. Well, if they're honest it'd be called selling to Ukraine and then just human assistance Screw it's a bit sickening I can't even do any more your trade diversification in promotion The US government is providing training and technical assistance to build Ukraine's expertise on World Trade Organization obligations And rights and how to meet WTO food safety standards My god

1:36:19 You see what's happening. Oh, that's interesting so they want him in the WTO They at least want to understand That's for sure it's what they want yeah the off and interest the Ukrainians are corrupt It's a corrupt society well you know I can happen then somebody for a ride here hmm Well, I think did you create okay? You guys wanna do all this sure I just wanna hear what you said The Ukrainians are corrupt society is that what you said yeah really everybody in Ukraine or business Yeah. So like saying Americans all are crazy militaristic a-holes? Yeah, and when you do that you have to go yeah yeah yeah... That's the different guy. So that's what I have there. Huh well at least we're doing our job

CHAPTER 30 / 47 Discussion

Jonathan Gruber, Affordable Care Act Transparency

The controversy surrounding MIT economist Jonathan Gruber's comments on the "stupidity of the American voter" regarding the Affordable Care Act is discussed. The segment links this lack of transparency to modern tech reporting, citing BuzzFeed's failure to disclose financial ties to Lyft while reporting on Uber.

jonathan gruber· affordable care act· obamacare· buzzfeed· uber· lyft

1:37:10 I actually... ...Dulin opens up the door with some donuts, our CIA guys roaming around the streets during that period. I can't believe that part! Oh no, he was just there on vacation. What did he say? Some bullcrap. Yeah and... Can you imagine if this head of the FSB was like at the Occupy Russia... A vacation man, I'm on vacation. On vacation, love New York. This is not, this has gotten to the point where it's almost so laughable that it's like... It's almost as if they're inviting being found out and nobody cares. Except us we kind of like it because we are in dark. Okay, so this is an overall observation that we have gotten to this point where for example

1:38:02 There's, you know...most people have heard about this Jonathan Gruber guy who was the speechwriter and...not speechwriter. The economist from MIT who put together a lot of the Affordable Care Act and he's on all these video saying yeah if you want to get something by this stupid voter or the stupid American public, you gotta twist your words and you gotta sneak it in. You gotta trick them! Right? It's not even that hard. You just don't say anything, don't even put it in there because they're dumb and they don't care and they're not going to find out And this of course is generally true

1:38:39 But it's also a thought I had with Uber. So here we are, the press that completely compromised technology news press which is owned by...I mean all these guys are owned by the same group of investors and it turns out BuzzFeed who broke the story of this Uber executive who said, hey you know what? We're going to use our God view and we're going to check on Sarah Lacy's crap. Buzzfeed broke that story, same investor in Uber And Lyft, I'm sorry. Not Uber, Lyft. A competitor. Yeah, he was a competitor. Competitor of course! Yeah so that makes sense Right So this is how these things work What's the guys naming him? Both Lyft and Uber have been known for dirty tricks in the past Which is okay... What's his guys name? Hold on let me get you the guy's name Oh and of course the thing is That BuzzFeed didn't disclose this while writing this piece about Uber

CHAPTER 31 / 47 Discussion

Uber and the Downgrade of the Middle Class

The rise of Uber is framed as the "downgrade" of the middle class, where individuals use their personal vehicles to serve as "slaves" to the elite. The hosts argue that the gig economy has rebranded a scummy, difficult business—taxi driving—into a trendy lifestyle choice for the economically displaced.

uber· middle class· taxi· gig economy· rideshare· danny devito

1:39:36 They should have said, hey one of our financiers is invested in Lyft. Don't you think that would be? They should have yes they should I think so. Ken Lerer. Who's gonna know yeah well i think this disclosure thing you might as well just forget it at this point. I just want to make a different point though okay my okay so back You know, just how stupid we really are just in general as citizens. So here we're celebrating this Uber company and you'll see they're valuing it at $30 billion dollars all this crazy stuff and I kind of hit me yesterday because I was taking the Uber back and forth this Wagamama. I took an Uber to the Wagamama man i'm such a hipster. Oh they have Ubers in Dutch? Yeah! And works on your same account everything is really quite stunning and so much easier. I hope taxi Eric never hears me say this but screw it...so much easier

1:40:29 Now, of course these guys wind up paying 25% of their... That's the VIG for being a part of Uber. But really I was thinking about cab companies and what this has disrupted if you will in turn and the experience is really good but really we're talking about taxi cabs okay? Now maybe they look better and these guys have a suit on, but really ever since I've been on this planet going back to the original TV series Taxi. Remember that with Brian De Palma and Tony Danza? That's Brian De Palma! And Louis de Palma... Brian de Palma! Who was the little tiny guy? My little friend! Who was the little guy who was the little actor? Yeah yeah What's his name? Yeah that guy Danny Devito! Danny Devito! There you go, Danny...Louis de Palmas character

1:41:15 Danny DeVito, what's the guy from a mash? No. Was he in there and wasn't the guy from mashing there for awhile to go into the point we don't care unless the actors have some bearing on this. It's all crap has always been crappy crummy it's a scummy business and these people I talked with Uber drivers they're driving around drunk people who throw up all the time it's a crappy crumby scummy it's a horrible business to be at It's not for the elitist. Well, that's all Uber is for and it's expensive but really we're celebrating the fact that people who are kind of middle class have now moved down into taking their car like a slave. Enslaved to the man and we're celebrating you now have people puking in your car for money! It's fucking sad people

1:42:04 I got to the point. It took me a little while, but that's good. I like that one it wasn't when I bitched about Wasted all my time with that no That's a very good point is you've actually you think something right so beautifully You take in the middle class that was a successful group of people nice car had a nice car It would their nice cars and then usually two of them in a dead-to-car garage living in the suburbs doing just fine sending their kids at Good schools And then, you know and they're not saving a lot but they're doing very well. Now they are reduced to having to be at second rate cab driver of gypsy cabs

1:42:41 toilet job now and they're happy about it. And yeah, I feel good that's what so pathetic they're happy about it this should be revolting. Yeah It really is because this been dressed up in this beauty of the of your misogynistic bro guys know it's even better now we're a big worldwide club of People who have been downgraded the whole country. You've got a massive downgrade at the, yeah well they're not telling you to get in the car with an Uber guy or say, or gal and say, Oh how's it going? Yeah good. How long have you been doing? I think do you like it? So do you draw, you know, do a lot of the night? Yeah that was a lot. It's always busy. You know so how do you like people throwing up in your car? Like yeah well this is kind of getting on my nerves

1:43:28 You don't have to watch and you can't if someone's in your, you know, the thing is gonna puke. You have to say, you know, you can't tell me get out but it's troubling and these people aren't hardened cabbies waiting till a couple of them get their throat slit Yeah, that's true. This is this reminds me now what you mentioned it and now that you mention it This is funny because I've been looking for an analogy for this Now and I believe maybe this isn't uber and lyft in the other would there's another one hold on one second? I just want to know I just I just need everybody to realize what is happening here. I Have a sound effect hold on a second before you get into it This is this is what happens when two guys come together from an unrehearsed performance

CHAPTER 32 / 47 Discussion

Hitchhiking History, John C. Dvorak's Motorcycle Story

John C. Dvorak shares a story from the 1970s about riding a Kawasaki motorcycle to Lake Tahoe to see BB King. After winning money gambling and attempting to ride home in freezing temperatures, he suffered from hypothermia and was unable to speak when he tried to offer a ride to a hitchhiker.

hitchhiking· motorcycle· kawasaki· lake tahoe· bb king· hypothermia

1:44:16 John, let's hear your uber analogy. Well I'm always into the 40 year cycle because I believe 40 and 80 year cycles determine the way things go and I've never found an analogous situation for a parallel Well, actually parallel and analogous. Something that was very similar but not the same so it's not a thing running in time together is something that happens and then it happens again 40 years later. Hitchhiking was huge! In the late 60s through the mid 70s everybody was hitchhiking I knew two guys who hitchhiked all the way across the country That was Uber without the app

1:45:03 This is, this was the ride sharing in the olden days. There was no lap you just stick your thumb out and people were... And I used to pick up people all the time but at that time I was driving around on a motorcycle and so you'd see some... You see something...I got stories! But it's these girls hitchhiking. Well give me one story of a hot girl A lot of girls hitch-hiking and you always give them a ride Yeah okay i got my one story So I took my bike up to Tahoe to gamble at Caesars because i wanted to go see a BB King concert. Hold on, just let me... hold on a second because we all remember this is theater of the mind you took your motorcycle okay it's cold and it's snowing up there but say that sequence again

1:45:53 I took my motorcycle up to Tahoe, to see BB King and I figured I'd gamble a little. And how old were you? I don't remember. 24? Something like that. Do you have long flowing hair and... No! My-I have very thin hair. What was the motorcycle? What kind of motorcycle? It was a Kawasaki Triple. Rice burner! Okay Oh, it was fast. Yeah, rice mariner. Anyway, hair would... If I got too long, I'd get these split ends and make my face itch so I never could grow really long hair It's driving me nuts. So I go up there and I go to the tables before the concert, and I win...I don't know $200-$300. And I decide that instead of spending the night, I'm going to come back after the BB King concert. Go watch it." And I had a great seat. Right in front was like a lounge act, BB King. You were doing blow or just drinking scotch? No, no.

1:46:52 I'm on a motorcycle. It's bad enough with the big gouges in Highway 80 that you could get killed just driving back, so I say at the concert stores around midnight, I said hell with it! I'm driving home. I'll save the hotel costs and i'll just drive home. So it's not quite snowing but it's below zero so it's freezing out. You're aware that it's snowing? But I'm gonna get there, once I get down the hill it's not going to be snowing for long. And so I start to get what do you call when you get too cold? It's called... Hypothermia. Hypothermia! So I started getting hypothermia and so I go into a gas station and make the mistake of warming up which is because if you're gonna be cold yet you want to kind of keep your... You don't want to go warm-cold warm-cold

1:47:44 So I got, so I started shivering like a maniac after I left the gas station. After I warmed up and it's once that was true. And so I started driving on the entrance there is a beautiful woman hitchhiking. I mean dynamite you can see it was dressed up in a lot of gear ago. You could just see her face fantastic and she said hiking and I pull over to ask her if she wants to go but I'm so cold and freezing, i say to her... And she takes a look at me like im a crazy guy. She pulls out her gun. No! She slowly walks backwards like Homer Simpson says no thanks

1:48:29 And I realized, like... So I said fuck it and just drove off. No no you said... Yeah that's right I said... Yeah I couldn't talk! How to Pick Up Chicks by John C. Dvorak where the c stands for chick magnet So that was uh okay You sure it wasn't The Ludes? The Ludes... No I never took ludes I've never had one of those in my life. But talking about the pickup artist, there's this interesting thing... This is a pickup artist bullcrap! This is the story going around about this guy who does the pickup artists seminars and he's- And this bogus story shows up on France 24 about what's going on with this guy. Hold on, but I can't find it. I don't see pickups. Pickup Artist Bullcrap Ah sorry okay I got it Oh man by the way John great story thank you

CHAPTER 33 / 47 Discussion

Julien Blanc, Pickup Artist Controversy

Dating coach Julien Blanc is the subject of international petitions seeking to ban him from various countries due to his "sexist" pickup tactics. The hosts suggest the controversy is a calculated publicity stunt designed to increase his visibility and seminar attendance.

julien blanc· pickup artist· brazil· online petition· sexism· chick-fil-a

1:49:23 I really appreciate everyone loves those wait hold on before we go get out of the story for a second Okay, everyone shake it off. Yeah back to reality. An online petition requesting the Brazilian authorities deny entry to dating coach Julien Blanc has garnered over 400 000 signatures from Brazilian web users in just a few days The self-proclaimed pickup artist is currently at the center of lively debate after a sexist video showing him in full seductive mood was posted online early November world over are outraged by his behavior and tactics. From Iceland to Singapore, from the Netherlands to the United Kingdom, the online petitions keep coming." Okay. What a publicity stunt! This is fantastic. You know we can be dating consultants you're a great one John C Dvorak consultant Dvorak and what a great story this is exactly how to learn listening to you

1:50:24 This guy is obviously a promoter of the highest order. He managed to get these petitions started against himself to get news about him, I never heard of Julian LeBlanc or whatever his name is. He's a controversial dating consultant! A controversial dating consultant... Nailed it he just gotta piss off women and gays that seems like the way to do it That's what Chick-fil-A did they pissed off all the gays and now their business is way up Yeah, because all the gays were showing you know they were tweeting pictures of two guys and two girls kissing in front of The Chick-fil-a. And people are like hey I'm gonna go there! Hey wait a minute where's my two guys kissing? Damn it got ripped off again by chick fil A oh yeah no it was very good what uh what was the controversy he just had some sexist things he was like

1:51:18 I don't even know. Apparently he's got a seminar where he says sexist things about women and how you can manipulate them or something, so I have no idea but all I know is that these phony petitions began... Great promotion! By the way that was just the beginning of this. This was a package that went on for another two minutes. Oh wow with pictures of him in front of a crowd. It was on France 24? Yeah! That's that's a good start because they're seen as, you know, journalists who have integrity. Yeah well they got suckered on this story I actually spent some time reading through and understanding this executive action by the president on immigration and i am invested in this

CHAPTER 34 / 47 Discussion

Immigration Executive Action, Prosecutorial Discretion

The debate over President Obama's executive action on immigration is analyzed through the lens of "prosecutorial discretion." The hosts argue that the media and politicians are ignoring the legal reality that the policy simply instructs agencies to prioritize felons for deportation over families.

immigration· executive action· prosecutorial discretion· luis gutierrez· democracy now· dhs

1:52:02 Because you would think with what I have been through, or what Mickey has been through with me that I would be one of those people saying hey man you don't get to jump in front of the line. You get to cut in line man! You gotta do some crap man and we went through some crap including deportation and thousands of dollars most of it directed...I think the lawyer fee really was probably $2,000 in lawyer fee And that's just standard. I mean, you know, there's set prices 500 for this part of the journey, 500 for that part. Yeah it's like going to an auto mechanic they look it up in the book and ask Joe. This guy does everything for Endemol and John Demol personally. The guy out in Santa Monica with one office. So that's how Mickey knows him he has always done her O1 stuff. I totally screwed up on letting her leave on the ESTA visa she had overstayed by a couple days so its totally my fault because

1:53:02 You know, it's not completely insane here because I've been through some immigration stuff before and so yeah you can figure it out. You can work it out but no this all changed when it moved from the State Department to this new fangled outfit called Department of Homeland Security and this is what I found interesting then I looked at some coverage before I left on Friday tried to read as much as I could just wanted to see what the coverage was with people are saying And I'm hearing all these things of, you know, it's anti-constitutional and...and I'm hearing people mess it up by saying executive order where there is no such thing. There's no executive order has been signed

1:53:43 a presidential memorandum, yes. But it has very different weight in what it does but that's not even really where all of this is coming from and there's one term which I don't think...I have not heard except Newt Gingrich once with someone who sent me a clip — I of course didn't see this live — had not used the term prosecutorial discretion Because all of this, the posturing by Republicans and whoever else is opposed to it. It doesn't matter everyone who's discussing this that you see and doesn't talk about prosecutorial discretion is just there to be on TV or whatever they say has nothing to do with what has actually been done or what needs to be done

1:54:29 Do you have an opinion on this, John? One way or the other. I feel the same way the whole thing is vague. I watched a whole speech and it was just horrible. And I don't know what he did. I can tell. Okay. And everyone saying oh, he's done this, He's done that. What's the evidence of that right now everybody on either side goes Oh, yes, he didn't know he didn't Yes, he did. This is like, you know, the temperature is like the global warming thing. The temperatures going down It's going up, it's going down, it's going up, staying the same Give me some definitive answer to this question. Is it going up? Is it going down? Is it staying the same? I don't know, I can't tell! I have a couple of clips that might show you how confusing it is... That's a good place to start yes? I watched Democracy Now and Juan Gonzales... Wait a minute, wait a minute! You're telling me Democracy now could not even make it understandable?!

1:55:18 No, in fact Juan Gonzales made it more confusing by bringing in that idiot Gutierrez. That Chicago congressman who's just a racist And they try to explain it. He says that there's no... It's just a, well play this one. Juan Gonzales explained and Gonzalez by the way would have vested interest he should recuse himself but no. Why is that? Because he's Mexican. He's Latino. Let's play this. He calls it a temporary resolution. It's not even that. A resolution? This temporary resolution is just that, a temporary resolution in fact it will be six months before any of the parents of undocumented immigrants can actually apply for legal status and so the Republicans

1:56:11 Republicans in Congress, a new Republican majority has basically a six month window as Congressman Luis Gutierrez said to finally do something rather than just complain and whine about what the president has done now. And you know this whole no wait let me interject one thing go this whole our immigration system is broken no one ever says well what exactly is broken? No one knows there's no one is ever saying please explain what is the broken part of it Which I, by the way can tell you what the broken part of it is but i'm leaving that until the end and when we conclude this. Okay, so well they just use this as a methodology that Democracy Now! shows especially Gonzalez to bash the Republicans and the classic example is this next clip. This is Ron Gonzalez in the litany of hate they bring out an illegal alien who is apparently a political expert she goes on and on with a whole bunch of talking points and it's just like oh why don't we just bring the Democratic Nationalists? Bring out what's his name?

1:57:12 Schultz Wasserman Wasserman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz Let's bring her out and let her say this, and this to me was just an eye roller. And when you hear that already some of the Republicans in Congress are threatening to go to court and some Republican governors are saying they will fight in their local states against providing work permits or providing driver licenses under the president's executive order what is your response? Well it's not surprising I think that Republicans have been really good at showing that they're anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-poor, anti children. Hey! We gotta shoot your children you stupid Latina women. Did she say religious? No no we are religious. The Republicans are proven to be anti-immigrants and anti-women, anti-children... Anti gay! She forgot anti gay.

CHAPTER 35 / 47 Discussion

Presidential Memoranda, New Americans Task Force

President Obama signed memoranda creating the "New Americans Task Force" to integrate immigrants and refugees. The discussion highlights how these actions empower the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to make discretionary decisions on who stays in the country, often based on arbitrary criteria.

presidential memorandum· task force· dhs· ice· immigration· haiti

1:58:08 Well, she probably dropped that when she couldn't remember that many things. Now okay and he says in here he's talking about executive orders... Okay I'm sorry i'm saying okay? I shouldn't be saying that but oh yes you're right! I'm sorry I didn't catch it Yes okay but okay I really have to stop all right here we go These were executive actions, and that's not where the meat and potatoes is. He creates these presidential memoranda... Memorandah? Memorandi. Each memorandum- here's one There's only two this is what he actually signed it's a memorandum It's not law its on executive order his memorandums I got a memorandum! Here, it's like I need those TPS reports That's exactly- in fact that is a very good analogy Yeah really like me like the TPS reports And what these do

1:58:52 form committees that one is here's immigration lawyers clarify what I'm sorry, that's not the one creating welcoming communities and fully integrating immigrants and refugees. And what he's, we're going to put together a focus group of steering wheel or steering group and everyone. Everybody is like secretary state attorney general, secretary of agriculture, commerce of labor health and human services housing urban development transportation sector education chief executive offer for the corporation for national community service. Uh, and it was going more meetings. I hate meetings

1:59:28 Sending a White House task force, the New Americans Task Force. So that's the first presidential memorandum doesn't say anything about amnesty it doesn't say anything it has no operational law wording at all other than sending of a task force second presidential memorandum modernizing and streamlining the U.S immigrant visa system for the 21st century this isn't has nothing to do with what is being discussed this prosecutorial discretion This is about, let's put together a task force. A driving steering wheel committee where we've come up with the new way of doing things. Oh man okay this could be kind of fun meeting because this task force has to you know do important things like work in consultation with private and non-federal public actors including business people labor leaders universities and other stakeholders people yeah

2:00:27 This is a call, this is a call for money. Recommendations from these people to streamline and improve the legal immigration system including immigrant and non-immigrant visa processing with a focus on ref... eh! Ching ching IT project with the focus on reforms that reduce government costs improve services for applicants Services for applicants Are you with me? Yeah Reduce burdens on employers. Combat waste, fraud and abuse in the system. We're here from the government we're here to help. Developing recommendations that set forth established metrics yeah all right uh here where we have I love this all this private sec- In consultation with private oh no we already had that one Oh in consultation with technology experts inside and outside the government

2:01:15 Oracle's going, everyone Microsoft. Send the sales guys out! So that has nothing to do with this where it does come down to is Department of Homeland Security and this is the immigration action you can actually get to by dhs.gov slash immigration dash action and here are the true executive actions that are going to take place and it is called prosecutorial discretion Which gives the agents of agencies complete license to say, you know okay there's two guys doing something wrong. It's against the rules I'm gonna let that guy go this is the whole folk deport criminals not families or whatever not children What a great slogan how can i be against that?

2:02:12 No, that's the key. The Democrats are... How can I be against that? Love to dream these little... Once you get the slogan then you can go for it. You can go, oh we got the slogan let's do something! Yeah well what is this? It's deport... Deport criminals not families. No no it was something else. Deport... give me felons not families. God I had to think about it. You shitty! Well they're not promoting it enough they're doing it right So because- We need a jingle. Born felons, not families! Something upbeat yes but not that one because thats our see something say something Yeah thats failed yeah well yes okay

2:02:56 So what this, so truly this means that you will go out and focus on felons and ignore families. That's how simple it really is! And this is completely at the discretion of not just Department of Homeland Security which includes all the agencies, United States Immigration Security Police ICE INS Border Patrol CPB I don't know. You don't need to name them all." That's a lot, but this is all... It's a laundry list and so they'll go by whatever they feel like anyway. Yes it's exactly what it is yeah I'll let her go because she's got nice boobs that's exactly what this is! There you go you nailed it or nail it but you nailed it But this is in place for lots of people Haitians

2:03:48 People who have been displaced from Haiti, they keep getting extensions. I feel bad for these... Ah man it's the Haitians! Haiti sucks you know? Earthquake, Clintons took over You know we got all that money didn't get the money where'd the money go They got screwed out of their money let him stay extra time This is very normal. This happens all the time, so anyone who's not mentioning this as very normal happens all the time under all these circumstances and it is indeed just like saying let the woman with a big nice boot let her go or go first that's all that it is and no one's talking about what really needs to be done which is remove the morally corrupt unnecessary secret police of America which is the Department of Homeland Security It needs to go

CHAPTER 36 / 47 Discussion

Life and Death in Shanghai, Sinclair Lewis Comparison

The book Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng is recommended as a factual account of what happens when "creeps" gain power in a society. It is compared to Sinclair Lewis's fictional work It Can't Happen Here, illustrating the rise of authoritarianism and the suppression of dissent.

nien cheng· life and death in shanghai· sinclair lewis· it can't happen here· china· communism

2:04:35 This is where the brown shirts will come from. These crazy people, they're TSA today They're going to be knocking on your front door tomorrow and they insane not all of them Of course but they will all be insane there's zombies that create it's crazy this is what happens a couple good books to read The two books to read, which discusses exactly this potential. One of them is a true book the other one is fiction. The true book is Life and Death in Shanghai, a book that was banned by the Chinese very good read. Fantastic! Who wrote this book? Do you know? A Chinese woman I have to go look it up now. It could be written by anybody. It had to be a Chinese woman. What do yo think that's funny about that? Let's see Amazon

2:05:23 Life and death in Shanghai, it's a quick read. And it shows you what happens when these sorts of creeps that you're describing get in power and maybe I'm gonna find it. It was very popular in Hong Kong. We've talked about this book before. How do you spell Shanghai? S-H-A-N-G-H-A-I, I believe. Do we do it in the code? Life and death in Shanghai in books. Just the right one? Yeah, this one here by Nien Cheng. We've got a Cheng Cheng Nian either way Chang or Ching C H E N G N I E N C H E N G is available five or six bucks. It kindles eight bucks

2:06:07 I'm not gonna, i want the real book. I'm also done with Kindle in my whole Babbit world. Okay fine well then get a real book this paperback is...I don't even know if it ever came in hardcover and said 12 to 28 fantastic book now the other one of course is Sinclair Lewis's It Can't Happen Here. We have discussed as many times And this book is the fictional version of this book, Life and Death in Shanghai. Ah that's why they're connected okay! When you read the two books either one of them...either one or both I have a part of it Oh I see It's exactly what you're talking about This is exactly what will happen This is exactly what happened in Germany with the brown shirts

CHAPTER 37 / 47 Discussion

DHS Border Checkpoints, Internal Immigration Enforcement

A story about a border patrol checkpoint 100 miles inside the New Mexico border illustrates the reach of the Department of Homeland Security. Another anecdote involves a traveler being questioned aggressively by US customs after visiting Canada solely to obtain a flu shot during a domestic shortage.

dhs· border patrol· new mexico· flu shot· canada· 9/11

2:06:44 shirts. And this will, you know...or if you read that we've been reading those books about what life was like during the Nazi era and, you know, if you weren't going heil Hitler constantly people would beat you up in the streets! That's what we're running into and I think you're right about the DHS it should be disbanded there is no reason for it. They are making decisions about your life your freedom to move your travel and and you know I told Uncle Don about the time that we actually Mickey told the story When we were driving, I think it was from... No. We were driving from California to Texas when we first moved here and we ran into that New Mexico border control 100 miles from the border where you cannot get around if you have to go through it then the dog got all happy and then they completely ripped everything apart and made Mickey pee in a jail cell

2:07:34 I don't know why I don't remember that. You don't remember? This was fantastic! And, I was still smoking at the time until they thought it had weed and everything... Oh right you probably stunk. It was there was and these guys were seven feet tall and Mickey was telling a story about yeah about these Nazis. I'll call them that it's not really what nationalistic people than that in the nationalist party are but you get the idea Brown church yes crazy Whereas if I were alone, I would have said am i detained? Am I free to go? You know she's not a citizen. Don't need to get deported it would make me very unhappy great material for the show actually and Uncle Don just went oh is this the sound he made

2:08:21 Since this, since 9-11. He really has no clue as intelligent and worldly as he is...he's just now waking up..He still at the 9-11 thing! Oh this is what happened after 9-11? Yeah Don, this is what happened after 9-11 We became a militaristic crazy A-hole Nazi state And this new division who took away the... You used to be at State, who took this away from the State Department. We put all of this stuff... Their only mission is to stop terrorists from coming in or flying in and blowing us up! And we know that they're completely incapable any of that because it's just not happening. Yeah sure there's some stuff though there's always something but it's to the detriment of the security over freedom. Okay

2:09:11 And they take money and they steal money from you. $1,000 per submission. It's a bunch of thugs! They're constantly stealing. Just to apply for a visa...$1000 per application paper. I thought he was literally stealing what should do at the airports? It's the same thing. What is that money for? It's stealing it. I do remember, because one of the forms it's $420. And I said they made that up just to fuck with me! Ha ha he sent a check for 420. Ha ha ha ha ha. 420? That is funny. You don't remember...I know we talked about this. I have a bit of the audio book from Life and Death in Shanghai. Don't laugh why are you laughing?! Sorry. Come on there was genius. Genius. Come on good Paul alright now

2:10:03 So, all of this is complete posturing. Seriously it can be one agency that does this. DHS has to go! It was run by the crazy lesbians and men are really suppressed. I would rather be hounded by a guy with a gun than a lesbian with a gun Angry. Look at Janet Napolitano, and I'm not making this up there are lawsuits guys who think I was completely harassed in this agency. Yeah it's true Yeah, horrible place. Okay. Let me just see what else did I have there? Who's this new guy is that the you know this guy what is his name? Jay Johnson J-J-E-H-J-J-Johnson Yes, J-E-H-J-Johnson But this is also Holder, you know. Holder also has this prosecutorial discretion which the judges had to take with the cocaine sentencing

2:11:07 You know, where crack and cocaine you get sentenced differently. And this is where they had to harmonize it so it didn't look like black people who can't afford the good shit. Hey man! You're black! You better be smoking that crack! That's how racist the whole thing was whereas it's the white people smoking the crack. Have you heard Whitney Houston? Crack is whack So you have this kind of discretion and that's all that this is. And when they say, you know, Reagan did it Bush did it... It's all just distraction from nothing. Nothing! It's completely unimportant but they're really not doing anything and we need to have this part fixed. This all has to go- Department of Homeland Security okay they can do TSA just do TSA only get rid of everything else everything and get the Border Patrol people nice and happy again

2:12:01 They used to say, welcome to America. Welcome home Mr. Curry! How come your wife doesn't use the same last name as you? That's what I get. Yeah well i've gotten one time coming through Canada and got uh... What were you doing in Canada? And what was your answer? I'm telling you what he said. What was your answer? This is when I had to go see a doctor because I had to get a flu shot during some season this was years before the show but after 9-11. And so I couldn't get a shot around here, because it was the one year where they didn't make enough or something and everybody got one. So when I said oh, I'll get a flu shot and go to Canada to get one because I know I could get one. I made a few phone calls and there was a clinic up there yeah we've got plenty of it. So I went up there you know Port Angeles drove across the border drove up to this clinic got my shot came back and then guy asked me what are you doing in Canada? And I said I want to get a flu shot. He says well we have got flu shots

CHAPTER 38 / 47 Discussion

Moral Self-Licensing, Lauren Smith's Essay

Lauren Smith, daughter of a No Agenda knight, received a top grade for her essay and speech on "moral self-licensing." The hosts discuss the concept and apologize for their previous skepticism regarding the academic reception of the topic.

moral self-licensing· essay· education· lincolnshire· psychology

2:13:02 Really? Like, yeah. Of course! And then I said well there's none available that i know of has been sold out you had to come to Canada that's why he came here He says I never heard this and he kind of stamped my thing and let me go and didn't continue the conversation but it was like what kind of a greeting is that? It's ridiculous to make what I went to Canada for... It's sad and it's really maddening You know this is not okay All right. I want to move on here, i did want to read a quick little note do you recall Sir Quiston of Lincolnshire donating to... Vaguely vaguely. I'll read Lauren Smith's note and then you will remember ITM my dad sir Quiston of Lincolnshire donated in my name on yesterday show all right this was really emotional for me and a massive thank you to him

2:14:02 He mentioned that I recently did an essay on moral self-licensing, which Adam said he would like to read. I have attached a link to the email. It was designed as an oral speech in which i got a 1, the highest grade being a one plus. I told you get a good grade! You said he'd get a lousy grade. She... she? What was a she? Oh sorry And my teacher said, I didn't say that. It would be horrible because he kind of left it in the open... No dad! Oh yeah? So Kristin and I said if she wants to tell you what she got for it then she should email you and I said well that means it could have really stunk

2:14:40 I didn't say... Your supposition was that the concept, which was an accurate concept. No my... You fairly understood you believed that it would be rejected because it was too much money? No no no! I read too much into the way Sir Quiston of Lincolnshire wrote then the memo so I would have presumed that he would say although he's actually a very proper guy said all yeah I'll leave that to my daughter for her to tell you what she got for it But to me, my conspiratorial thinking was must be shit. Must be bad. Must be really bad because he's not saying it. That's a very negative attitude you have? Yes and I'm sorry if I apologize for it. It is one of my problems. I am working on it. I'm in therapy.

2:15:23 My teacher said it was an interesting topic. We handed the typed version attached in for a written assessment, which I have not received back yet Thanks for the great show! ITM Lauren Smith." Isn't that beautiful? Yeah And she sent me a copy of it and... Did you read it? Of course I did Was it any good? I would've given it a 1+, I tell you Not just a simple one I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, they'd be fab On NO AGENDA I want to preface this by mentioning that this is another example of a very poor Sunday, which we've been having very consistently. Of the number of people that sent in $50 or more most sent in 50 except for a few at the top here there's only a total number of people totaling 27 people

CHAPTER 39 / 47 Discussion

Keystone XL Pipeline, Warren Buffett and Railroads

The resistance to the Keystone XL pipeline is attributed to the financial interests of Warren Buffett and his railroad holdings, such as Burlington Northern. Shipping oil by rail is highly profitable for these companies but has created a shortage of railcars for Canadian farmers trying to get their grain to market.

keystone xl· warren buffett· berkshire hathaway· railroads· canadian national· grain

2:16:16 Now, generally speaking we have...it's always over 30-40 sometimes 50. But we have 27 people... Adamous Someone tweeted and said that you know, we're just no good, we've changed our attitudes are no good. Dr. Muckerman No, but most people are like our Grand Duke he says this stuff more recently especially like the last show loaded with top-notch deconstructions and good stuff. That's what I would think too, so it's not that? It's just people are broke? Yeah, it is...I don't know what it is. It could be just the… They need to be reminded more often. Sure, I know what it is. Well anyway let's thank the people that did come in at this amount and we do want to thank all of the people who have come with lesser amounts. When I send these mailings out, I look at two things one, the total number of people that come in over 50, the total number of people coming under 50 and it creates a spreadsheet as a certain size. This is a small spreadsheet overall

2:17:07 So we didn't even have that many people came in low. I mean, a lot of it was only like 62 K. It was it was it was Hey Ben you're light. You're only 62 k. That's how when I see the email come in what 60 UK the size of the attachment of the spreadsheet Oh the size yeah and I'll see if it's like 62 I'd be disappointed if it should be 100 some 198k Wow this is gonna be awesome Yeah, those are the good old days. Sir Scott in Herndon, Virginia... I should just pat it with his nose. Holy crap! Get really happy. Sir Scott in Herndon, Virginia $133.33 and he's got his last name is worried about outstanding newsletter regarding the XL pipeline

2:17:55 Oh, can I say something about the XL pipeline quickly? Yeah. One of our producers said... Can i just tell you because we were saying what is the big deal with this XL pipeline? What is the deal who cares about it? Our producer said okay it's very simple this is all about the trains He said, we have our families... you know the farmers up in Canada they can't get their goods on a train. They even have to go and rent an entire car on a train to do it either by themselves or with a couple of them so that not just buying through a middleman because all these trains are being used for oil! The people who put President Obama in office, the Berkshire Hathaway guy, Warren Buffett

2:18:44 He's laughing his ass off at how much money he's making transporting oil on his train lines. That's why they...it'll never happen, it's not gonna happen and it's not about global warming any of that bullcrap, it's all about money for him! I like it and we used to think about trains more than we do currently maybe that's what people need be reminded of Isn't that interesting? Yeah, no I like it. That's a very good analysis and it makes nothing but sense because it is a bonanza for them. That's what they talk about all the energy in effect is anti-global warming so if you're producing more CO2 by running these trains all that way... Let me read this. It's huge trains there are some of these trains run down here. Should I read the email to you real quick and then we'll move on? In the morning every time I hear YouTube bring up the Keystone pipeline I cringe! Canadian guy of course

2:19:35 And usually when people say that I get mad. I'm like, really you cringe? Like physically like you want to puke? I cringe and wonder why no Canadians have clued you into what they see is the most obvious reason that there's strong resistance to building it! It's all about railroads and shipping oil on steel instead of in a tube. Warren Buffett, Berkshire Hathaway, Burrington Northern along with Bill Gates Canadian National Railroad... Oh hello is Gates an investor in Canadian National Railroad I don't know. Check that out. Our cleaning up is... All we have to do is go to Washington, D.C., and go into the archives and find out what White House and Barbara Boxer and some of their investments which are kept in a closed room You cannot copy them? You can only... I don't know what the process is. No you have to get the microfiche and make a copy in the basement And you have to pay 25 cents a copy That's fine

2:20:29 I don't have a problem with any of that, but you still have to go there physically because they could put it online. But they refuse to because they know what's going to happen people are gonna look into this... And that was by executive order by the way Yes. Okay, let me continue. They're cleaning up using grain cars by the thousands to ship sweet and crude out of the northern US states and Canadian locations to be refined in Texas leaving the farmers of these areas with no cars to ship their grain to market I have friends and family farming in Saskatchewan isn't that where all the money is? No, that's Alberta. That have ordered producer cars railcars that are ordered and delivered to a specific siding that a farmer will fill the capacity on their own rather than sell their grain to a middleman over a year ago as they order it over a year ago and they're still waiting in return there sitting on hundreds of thousands of bushels of grain and they can't sell it seems like a no-brainer the ones that put the scum in office would be quite against a cheap pipeline oh there you go Rick I think you're right on I think that said

2:21:29 Okay, well that's gonna be our new... That's our XL pipeline. And let's see what agricultural people in Congress and the governments are getting involved with. We'll see! Yeah, Buffett. Oh! We need a Buffett yell. Buffett!!! I don't think we have one do we? This guy is going to blow out his throat. There are people who want to pay him good money now for making We're star makers. Currie and Dvorak, the star makers! And we don't have a Buffett. No we don't I know we don't. Let me continue... Nicholas Princeipe in Raleigh North Carolina 12345 sending along some pre-thanksgiving support well thank you very much

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No Agenda Support, Knighting of Sir Beardmaster General

The hosts acknowledge financial support from the "producers" and perform a knighting ceremony for Sir Beardmaster General. They reiterate the value of their independent analysis compared to mainstream media and confirm titles for the protector of Orange County.

donations· knighting· beardmaster general· orange county· peerage· support

2:22:22 Crocutta Computer Services in Pacifica, California $100. Patrick Hopple and Della Field Wisconsin a hundred dollars Richard Foshee It could be Foshee. $80 and it's going to complete his knighthood, so after two years of donations he goes... He's crossed the threshold I'd like to be referred to as Sir Beardmaster. Sir Beardmaster General? Wow! I wonder what that refers too. And you would like some relationship karma as his is apparently falling apart after 10 years. Huh. Oh let me... And a little girl yay give him that too. Okay hold on one second let me just get everything again i'm on one small screen here momentarily Just in a small screen

2:23:05 All right, here we go. And where'd the karma go? You've got karma. Thank you very much sir. Knighting ceremony on his way. Roy Buska in Miamisburg Ohio 7770 and he says your show with the analysis from Uncle Don reminded me of why No Agenda is such a unique and valuable program. Wow that's nice Sir Thomas Nussbaum, Baron? Baron Nussbaum of Virginia Beach. Oh yes! 7117 And he has a reminder 121314 is coming up Yes so we have to start reminding people in the newsletter that we have 121314 The only logical donation with that amount is $1213.14 for a super night It's an instant night somebody's gonna have to do it

2:23:58 Let's just... I just want to clarify, you will not receive a super night. You're just supposed to be super night let's be a little careful with what your promising here. Well i mean yeah okay it is an instant night and it's on a Sunday no it's on a Saturday That would be the day after. JK Shields in Wick, Highland UK $69.69 and he somehow made it using pounds I think. Joaquim Formalas in Zurich Switzerland $67.20

2:24:33 Thor Lye in Oslo, Norway 6710. Ed Zolo in Rostravor South Australia 6660. Paul Webb in Twickenham, Middlesex UK 55-55. Arthur Altman in Winnipeg Manitoba 54 and now the rest of these are $50 donors including Brandon Chrisham in Vallejo way up the street from me Lacey Toms in Ottawa Canada Michael Oliver in Fresno Sandra Geisler in Watkinsville Georgia

2:25:13 Macy Stolowski in Calgary, Alberta. Brandon Menk in Tempe Arizona Jason Daniels and Dallas Texas T. Ebell in Burgfield Berkshire UK Andy Clements in Taylor Mills or Taylers Mill or Taylor Mills I can't it's one of the two Kentucky Eric Veit in Dublin, California. Benjamin Smith in Oakland, California our new Oaklander Brian Edelson and Edlin Edelin in Myrtle Beach South Carolina and finally Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California and David Trotsky in Romeoville Illinois I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on show 672 a reminder we do have a show 673 coming up Dvorak org slash na is the operative

2:26:03 place to visit. Yeah, you are. I like that a lot. We're not throwing money away if that's what you want. No! You're very stingy. Stingy is not the right word. Can't we send them a wooden ring? I've never suggested a cigar store or a cigar roll. You suggested pins. That didn't fly. No one liked that. What a crappy pin. Everybody likes to pins. I wanna go to pins. Everybody likes rings man...rings

2:26:48 Crazy. All right, so we have no birthdays! No birthdays whatsoever- I didn't see one listed anywhere in the United States. We do however just give everybody some general purpose karma as we always do at the end there. You've got karma. Well deserved thank you for those of you who are supporting us to really needs more support. Come on... We're giving you some real analysis and information here Yeah, nobody else even comes close. I think we just nailed Uber! I mean come on this is so obvious And this is how sick society is. Celebrating the downgrade of the middle class with their hard-earned vehicles to puke mobiles for the drunken elite. For the drunken elite. Great gag, Bill! Let's set it up so that middle classes have to loan out their cars and then people puke in a car. Yeah great idea I love it!

2:27:52 You wouldn't have any of that analysis without us, so support us please. Nor the railroads nor anything yeah you're right we congratulate Sir Boris Lafmerinoff on his barony he now is the protector of Orange County We've given him the entire Orange County I'm pretty sure someone has it but you know if the Peerage Court can step in... I would like this well will who uh this will be resolved within the next two shows Yeah for sure And then we do have one knighting, so of course I always bring my little collapsible blade to the Homeland Security Brownshirtstone to arrest me and you obviously have yours there. Wretched Fahsi! Come on up to the lectern, my friend. You are now entering that very exclusive gang of knights and dames at the round table we hereby happily pronounce thee Sir Beardmaster General Knight of the No One Dinner Round Table and for you we have quite a list of great things including Hookers & Molly, Dos Equis in Dutch Dominatrix, Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys in Chardonnay, Porn Stars in Pot

2:28:51 Bad science and perky breasts, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch. Hot pants some booze or maybe just some mutton and mead." And see I even put the Dos Equis in Dutch dominatrix in there Yeah right at the top good huh? Yes now you're a pro you're a pro man Pro Thank You Man hey man thank you Hey man There was another analysis actually by The Word Girl Okay, about our show and she'd done something for her professor. I don't know if this is...I guess she's in college? I don't know. I thought she was the professor anyway She sent it to me It's called gender interaction analysis male slash male at University of Massachusetts

CHAPTER 41 / 47 Discussion

Gender Interaction Analysis, No Agenda Academic Study

A student at the University of Massachusetts submitted a paper analyzing the gender roles and power dynamics between the two male hosts of No Agenda. The hosts deconstruct the analysis, arguing that their interactions are a form of "performance art" and "improv" rather than traditional social behavior.

university of massachusetts· gender roles· performance art· improv· red bull· stammering

2:27:52 You wouldn't have any of that analysis without us, so support us please. Nor the railroads nor anything yeah you're right we congratulate Sir Boris Lafmerinoff on his barony he now is the protector of Orange County We've given him the entire Orange County I'm pretty sure someone has it but you know if the Peerage Court can step in... I would like this well will who uh this will be resolved within the next two shows Yeah for sure And then we do have one knighting, so of course I always bring my little collapsible blade to the Homeland Security Brownshirtstone to arrest me and you obviously have yours there. Wretched Fahsi! Come on up to the lectern, my friend. You are now entering that very exclusive gang of knights and dames at the round table we hereby happily pronounce thee Sir Beardmaster General Knight of the No One Dinner Round Table and for you we have quite a list of great things including Hookers & Molly, Dos Equis in Dutch Dominatrix, Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys in Chardonnay, Porn Stars in Pot

2:28:51 Bad science and perky breasts, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch. Hot pants some booze or maybe just some mutton and mead." And see I even put the Dos Equis in Dutch dominatrix in there Yeah right at the top good huh? Yes now you're a pro you're a pro man Pro Thank You Man hey man thank you Hey man There was another analysis actually by The Word Girl Okay, about our show and she'd done something for her professor. I don't know if this is...I guess she's in college? I don't know. I thought she was the professor anyway She sent it to me It's called gender interaction analysis male slash male at University of Massachusetts

2:29:36 Do you want to hear this for a second? Yeah, I'm all game for this. Gender Interaction Analysis Mail-Mail For this paper on gender interaction analysis, I have chosen the 15 minute exchange between two male participants slash cohost of an audio podcast called No Agenda The purpose of this paper is to explore the different gender roles each speaker assumes as they individually and collectively navigate a conversation. Although the speakers are both male, the roles that each assumes is compelling to witness! One placates while the other pouts... I guess he was the pouting bitch in this That'd be you. Yeah, this analysis begins with when one speaker fails to pick up on the subtle cues put forth by his conversation partner... This is our performance art fails that happens well actually Well let me finish the intro and then I want to say something about that okay? Um i failed to pick up on the subtle clues put forth by his Conversation partner yet takes offense when the conversation partner must assert himself more forcefully in order To convey his point in a manner where the first speaker will take notice

2:30:38 What follows is an exploration of the male propensity to lecture rather than converse, and how it is perceived by another male. Issues of politeness both negative and positive as well as a glimpse into the gendered nature of gossip." And this is very... If this were just a conversation between two people, yes. She has all kinds of other surveys that she refers to and this is the time when I played the John Kerry clip recently and you said it was boring we got into a little conversation where I also said it on the next show or at the end of that show I said you were right but what she overlooks in...and this is very typical I think although it's actually quite flattering and yeah she talks about our relationship which is kind

2:31:25 disturbing. Well, I think women always say... well you know... She's citing like Edwards... I'm sorry? Yeah no, I would think... I betcha' I can deconstruct her deconstruction in such a way that it would explain whatever it is she said So just..well I'm just gonna give you one little example and then I just want to say why this is worthless as analysis. I hate to say it It is at this point where we witness Adam being overly polite, albeit negatively polite. And then in parentheses, Wardog 2010 page 277. Apparently I'm like some... This is a male thing we do with the seemingly insincere repetition of it's fine, it's fine and with emphasis mine and with that we begin to detect the slight shift in gender role as a result where I become a bitch

2:32:14 Excessive politeness such as this, Edwards informs us is quote often associated with subordination and deference which can in turn reinforce its feminine connotations. Edwards 2000 page 146 Edwards adds, the speech characteristics traditionally associated with women are not after all exclusively theirs. That's on page 136 As evidence of this we see Adam continue in this vein as John deploys positive politeness In an attempt to defray Adams increasingly heated exchanges Alright so here- oh! Oh! Here Perhaps John instinctively recognizes this as a traditional male female disagreement and intuitively assumes the role of the placating husband Ha ha

2:33:06 Oh daddy, don't be mad at me. Wow how sick is that? I got heebie-jeebies. But what she's overlooking is that this is a performance and we actually, when we argue... We're more arguing about the pleasure of the people, the producers who are making the show with us and listening in because it's like Jon Stewart. He's got 60 writers. There's a lot of work. A lot of people work on the show. Granted, you know there's a whole bunch of restrictions that come along with television or video in general which is why we don't do it because we are theater-of-the mind and not as this paper asserts at the beginning... I have it here It's audio only Here it is

2:33:58 Hmm. It's audio only because they don't use video because that would degrade the quality of the sound No, it's audio only because but we shall she also meant we wouldn't have audio like visual cues to play off of each other Which I realize this is a part of did I have to say the greatness of this show? I am controlling all of the clips and everything and starting them And I'm always trying to have the right clip ready at the right moment so John doesn't have to you know he usually not It depends. Sometimes we have better days, when you say something I know which clip bang it's in there sometimes right? Depends on the clipless. This is a yes script this show and we can't possibly... It's like the world's longest improv session between two guys who have absolutely no comedic quality just speak for yourself but it comes out

2:34:51 It comes up when we're in a husband-wife role, then all of the sudden it's true. People always say mommy and daddy are fighting because I'm always mommy! Yeah there's that you're always a mom. No this woman...I don't want to demean her because she obviously thinks enough. We love her no she knows it's great paper. She is one our favorites but like a lot of women I believe there's a very strong subtext amongst women analyzing guys they always want to watch two guys making out I don't know why, i'm just telling you. There's a lot of women out there... If this were a clip, I'd give you Clip Of The Day. You're absolutely right!

2:35:29 It turns them on like nobody else's business. I want to see if any take it further they want to see two guys getting it on there's something that's a thrill about and there's rumors about various Hollywood starlets married the various kind of gay guys are supposed you know They're actually gay, and we all know they are but their marriage is some beauty lot of people the rumor is always that that woman likes to watch two guys making out doing it and Yeah, I could name names but i just won't. This is some of the best analysis you've ever done! It's always built into a lot of this analysis so beware! I also happen to agree that I do take on the female role sometimes and it's annoying to me...sometimes

2:36:14 You take more of the son-dad-son thing, more than the female. I mean maybe you do... No! I got over that. I got over that. No no. Well the pouting is yeah and i can feel it. You go ohhh. I got over the son dad thing because as a dad you're an asshole. So I'm like no. I just don't want to use my dad. I already got one of those. I don't need another one. I'm fine. I like anything like your dad Anyway, so the point is you can always analyze stuff. But what we're doing is live performance sometimes it works I think most of the time It's outstanding and at least within the show there are two or three items that are just like You'll never hear this ever And also it would not come from one person Like how we figure these things out on-the fly No, you can't do it We had... The analogy for with Uber The analogy for hitchhiking That stuff only happens in

2:37:03 It's magic. No, it's because we're triggering thoughts... We've both experienced it and been around the world and seen a lot of places and done a lot of things And we have a lot of personal experiences that get triggered by the conversation Some of them are interesting and some aren't Generally speaking I think most of them are interesting But anyway this is just the way... We'll talk about this stuff on The Christmas Show Yes, I was thinking about saving this for the Christmas show. But really...I think actually want to promote the Christmas show by bringing this out. This is what the Christmas show will be about. Yeah it's gonna be about the show and it was kind of self- What do you call that? I just made that lip sound. Well talk about..this is also very OCD Tourette thing we're doing with words we use

2:38:04 We'll talk about that on the show too. And we get a lot of comments from people, there are some things that really annoy listeners and stammering probably some of it but no one can... Let me just say something you have a huge hangout I've known know you're long enough You had a huge hang up about your stammering which i never really notice It's like my Tourette's you don't notice my Tourette's because they tell you about it No But no one ever complained about your stammering Which now I hear all the time, I hear prose. Not all of them! I mean Brian Williams never does it but you see it on RT show and here on the radio a lot. I'm just thirsty that's all. I drank like two cans of Red Bull before the show What? Yeah I was tired. I had jet lag and thats why... You thought I was drunk?! I was high on red bull

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

Vice Media, Tom Freston and Shane Smith

The credibility and valuation of Vice Media are questioned, with the hosts suggesting that many of their "edgy" documentaries are scripted or rigged. The involvement of former Viacom executive Tom Freston and founder Shane Smith is highlighted as Vice moves toward a multi-billion dollar valuation.

vice media· tom freston· shane smith· mtv· viacom· afghanistan

2:38:57 Oh, that makes sense. But it's now kind of not where you sound tired You did sound tired you sound fine now because I'm gonna love I'm leveled off a bit whoo I never drink that so and I'm sorry I had one is monster things and Red Bull the monster energy drink but can't drink those together See legal in some states So let's get back to do some clips and do some ketchup. I Do a clip blitz How are we? We had a cutout. So where are we on time? Aren't we almost done? Yeah, we got about 10 minutes left because I Wanted to do one more little thing and then you could do your clip blitz Can we do that one like is how I pick on somebody yeah go pick on him It's fine with me maybe can segue a lot of people are always talking about how great vice is vice

2:39:45 And I don't trust these guys. They get... We both talked about this, I'm on board with you and the other day there was a dinner conversation where Vice came up and said that they think half of their videos are rigged. They're scripted. Yes definitely! The only thing that makes sense is the ISIS video. They got these documentaries all over the place. They're always in the right place at the right time with some documentary. And they have credibility. And I know that a lot of people who've spoken to say we love Vice because they pay a lot of money and they have nice budgets. And I think, I heard Rogan maybe talking about this or someone on Rogan and I know people who's like yeah we did the special for Vice and they're great you know they're really professional which means that got fucking paid at Vice so if I start off as a magazine...and then it got really exploded by a guy i know very well Tom Freston

2:40:38 And so this is his comeback for getting fired over not buying MySpace. Can you imagine? He got kicked out of Viacom because he let Murdoch buy MySpace and, of course that turned out to be a great decision. Tom before he ran MTV—this is why I know him so well—he had an import-export business in Afghanistan Hello. So do you get what kind of guy this is? Yeah, I'm getting a picture. Great guy who everyone loves him because he's he's kind of Indiana Jones in his suit and little dorky looking if you Google the picture of Adam Curry Michael Jackson He's the one on the other side of Michael Jackson that Tom Freston just stands there. Hey, I'm Tom. I'm Tom effin Freston I'm gonna stand here next to Michael Jackson so he and he financed it and they're talking that it may be worth eight billion now or

2:41:33 And they're gonna try, you know there's... They're looking for buyers. So this thing isn't really... They've ramped it up and the founder is a guy named Shane Smith and this guy just has douchebag written all over him He's the guy who did the interview with Snowden that was all strange Yeah, yeah, and then the always the other one we he talked to some The guys who were tearing up their passport remember? He was talking to some terrorists there in Crap where was it remember you had a big deal about this. This can't be a British guy Oh, no was the British know I my deal was that he wore the passport so work too much money right?

CHAPTER 43 / 47 Discussion

Fukushima Radiation, Vice Media Cesium Claims

A Vice Media documentary on Fukushima is criticized for using "sweetened" audio and sensationalist claims about radiation levels. Nuclear expert Rod Adams provides a counter-analysis, stating that the levels of cesium and iodine released do not pose the long-term public health threat suggested by the film.

fukushima· radiation· cesium· vice media· japan· thyroid cancer· rod adams

2:42:10 So now this guy has a piece and it's a long piece, but as typical you know vice 17 minutes. I cut down just a little bit just like a minute and a half so you can get the idea which i submitted the main premise of this documentary to Atomic Rod Adams A guy who I know actually knows about radiation and nuclear energy And something is the new meme is cesium! Cesium! It's the cesium that's gonna kill us How you doing? Are you dead yet from the cesium there in the Pacific? I'm still kicking. It's astonishing but true. Are your fish all radiated and you're dying from poisoning? Yeah, doesn't seem to be the case. Do people have a Geiger counter? Have people died on the street of radiation? No no no In 2011, the Tohoku earthquake created this tsunami so large that when it struck Japan it killed approximately 16 000 people

2:43:04 This is very good what he's doing here. He is putting you into the disaster mode of things that have nothing to do with the actual... well, of course it was the cause of the Fukushima reactor issue but the dead people and all this- this just oh yes sir oh dead people floating bodies Oh horrible! And he accentuates these things really smartly. Destroyed 130 000 buildings and caused an estimated 210 billion dollars worth damage making it one of the costliest natural disasters in world history. On top of that, when the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was hit by the tsunami it began releasing the largest amount radioactive materials into the environment since the Chernobyl disaster 1986 Now there's other examples of

2:43:50 You know, radiation that isn't all just nuclear power plant related. But okay we'll use that one and just more imagery very good And of course we see the images at the same time obviously The assertion is coming up pretty soon Now almost three years later there are continuing and serious concerns over the levels of both initial and ongoing radiation contamination not only in Japan proper but also what's leaking into Pacific Ocean The Pacific Ocean again. Now, information regarding this nuclear accident has been very tightly controlled by the Japanese government so we sent Vikram Gandhi to ground zero of this environmental disaster to see first hand what's really happening in Fukushima.

2:44:31 Now there's a whole bunch of stuff where they go back with people to their homes and you know, they take a look at... They're all there. And they have like surgical masks on like that's gonna stop radiation or something They're walking around in normal clothes with Geiger counters. How is this surgical mask going to come? So they send the Indian guy To ask some questions The Japanese government has declared most of these ghost towns unlivable What do you hear in the background was a geiger counter sound So they have Geiger counters everywhere. Oh, it's not showing the real reading! Oh this is government-issued Geiger counter It's showing a lower rating and you know the reading is nothing just nothing okay But what is more disturbing is what they are NOT telling us And this is the meme that has continuously used Government cover up because that makes our conspiracy theorists also nutty. Government coverup You got...it's REAL! You get an iodine! Akirame yo

2:45:30 In the days following the tsunami a series of explosions ripped through three of the Fukushima react and do you hear the? Sweetened audio there is no audio like that of the showing the explosions and they're just yeah No, there's no audio. There's echo on it through three of the Fukushima reactors despite global concern if a potential nuclear catastrophe The Japanese government downplayed the severity of the situation As a member of the Japanese House of Representatives at the time of the disaster, Hiroshi Kawachi witnessed firsthand the inadequacy of the government response. Now you're gonna hear- You're gonna hear it I cut all this out just a little bit

2:46:11 Japanese and then a translation. Do you think the government is lying about the extent to which the damage has been created by this accident? Wondering how radiation levels 168 times worse than Hiroshima could ever be perceived as okay, we decided to investigate further So here- And of course, you know what the visuals are because the guy says and they have that subtitled he repeats it the radiation released by Fukushima was 168 times the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima. And then of course you see big, there are the typical mushroom clouds and then this all... actually there's a little more piece here In this school there is an NGO that is going around testing people for thyroid cancer Thyroid cancer is one of those diseases that caused by radiation It's caused by a lot of thyroid issues

2:47:12 not just thyroid cancer, but thyroids that become hyperactive or hypoactive. It's not all just caused by radiation. That is one of those diseases that is caused by radiation. Move ahead faster! I'm getting this old stuff that I've seen already and it's... I'm just saying it's a meme and it's coming up. Is this new video? Brand new. This is brand-new yeah. It's just old crap! Yeah but it's all about energy you know it's all about downplaying the nuclear angle So all I did is ask Rod, you know what is this 168 times the radiation? And I just want to give his answer. The atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't release much cesium and it was not the cause of the exposures received then What sounds like a scary number doesn't mean much It's like saying that a pickup has 168 times as much cargo capacity as a Harley I calculated the Cesium in iodine release

2:48:10 And he has a URL though, which is in the show notes. And it says that the Fukushima... or the Hiroshima Syndrome website has good status. Oh crap man this email is shit. Steadily with nothing to worry about from a public health perspective cesium does not accumulate It has a biological half-life of just 40 days compared to its radioactive half life of 30 years. It passes through, as very high doses it's deadly. At Fukushima concentrations after treatment the water was drinkable except for the salt and other minerals in it." That's a scientist talking not the guy from Vice. Liar! Yeah Huh

2:48:57 Yeah, no this thing... well what do you think the point of it is? No I think the vice guys are... I think their reports are very sketchy. Why are they worth 8 billion dollars? What because they must be making big money where's the money coming from Well whoever is interested in to make this kind of stuff and they're making political stuff John They're not making..you know...they doing reports about Middle East about ISIS We have to keep an eye on these guys we've ignored them Yeah, well we haven't just spoken out properly about them. I think it's very...I think they are yeah they have to be watched. Yeah no i think so too. I've thought this before but for some reason that I'm not even interested in what they're doing People are all-in a lot of our producers go hey man there is great documentary advice and when I hear everything in my body goes man this wrong! This wrong and its like Uber now know why was like this is wrong Now understand why It takes little while to get into

2:49:53 Well, we have to get to the bottom of it. Because I have the same thing people are all in on Vice they think is fantastic And they found something like that naked African warlord, I think it was one of their early productions. It got all kinds of attention and then they've done the Korean thing which now is pretty sketchy. Yeah well we know yeah! That was Shane Smith and I think they banned him from the country because he made everyone look like clowns Well it's better than getting killed over a cement truck. The real people actually do work

2:50:30 Yeah, it's interesting. Well I don't know how to even... Just keep on... It's so tedious to watch their documentaries because they're always there. I think they're fake! I just think a lot of them are fake. I think they use actors because yes go to places that nobody can go. They get into places no one can go without getting killed and real journalists don't go in the same place. Don't even do that eight billion dollar valuation from what? Advertising revenue forecast? It's unlikely. Please, no! Because we know who is going to be financing this it's all legal and that's part of Smith-Munt Yeah Smith-Munt And this is Goldman everyone's gonna be in on it all over again and they've done a very good job Tom Freston knows how to sell something to young people he did it with MTV now he just hit the jackpot

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Anthony Bourdain, Food Photography in Paris

A clip of Anthony Bourdain in a Paris restaurant shows him encouraging the practice of taking photos of food for social media. The hosts lament this trend, suggesting that the obsession with documenting experiences for Twitter and Instagram detracts from the actual enjoyment of the meal.

anthony bourdain· cnn· paris· food photography· selfies· social media

2:51:30 And he's selling it. You watch, you watch who buys it and you watch how that runs and they will become the propaganda arm. Why don't they just have Department of Homeland Security buy them? That's all they're missing over there. They probably should. Let me get a couple things out of their way so we can get out of here. Yeah please. Did I bum your eye? Sorry! I got a disgusting clip... Well, Lewis, you didn't have to go that deep into it. We know its bull crap. I just wanted to point it out when the big sale comes I have a, okay. I have a disgusting clip that will you have to this is video obviously so you can't see what's going on and you will guess what's going on by the end of the clip but i think this is especially important clip for you and this is Tony Bourdain he's in Paris at a restaurant. Oh Tony Bourdain the CNN... Tony Bourdain no restaurant. He's the guy. The CNN food guy

2:52:28 It's not in CNN at all. He has a CNN show! Oh right, it's the one where he- it's called Stopover or something right? That was on Trump. It's called Tony Bourdain Food Show Okay, well anyway he's got three shows then. He has no reservation stop over where he goes to some place for a short time as though you were on a plane and tries it damn. And this is the show and this one in Paris at some fancy restaurant and if you overhear the conversation without seeing the visuals, if you saw the visuals you know what I'm talking about You should be able figure out what they're up too and you should be appalled. ...racing some of the newer ideas working their way through French modern cookery

2:53:07 But tonight, it's Le Paul Bear. Gotta love it! That's how I like it... that is great We are such nerds! I'm going to tweet on that Me too Do people do this in Paris? Is this acceptable behavior now? Yeah, completely It's stupid but... In New York you're not allowed to eat until you take a picture of it I am trying not to do it, it's kind of ridiculous but it's fun If you haven't tweeted about it, it didn't happen. This was a good sauce. This was a good steak. Yeah you look happy. Shooting pictures of their food. Yeah, we have to help him he's nice He seems like a nice guy that you could do this is oh We're the ones that are out of touch you and me On the wrong side of history I Give up Wow yeah wow yeah You should give up well III hadn't expected it But I think you deserve it

2:54:25 Yeah, it summed it all up for me. When you have Tony Bourdain... Tony Boltini and he's like encouraging- He was making selfies in a restaurant in Paris on our food show and encouraging that it didn't happen if there is no picture of it Very very sad day Sad of the day so that sad very second for depression than your dad live for the day I have one. I got a couple more I can carry over the next show or I can run them quickly well It's kind of thing we had the longer break are you in a tweet today? No too bad how could it be on Twitter then taking off on an airline oh, I'm sorry um Just smack my lips again. I do want to try this one detect let me try this

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Julian Assange Update, Swedish Court Appeal

A Swedish appeals court has rejected Julian Assange's request to withdraw an arrest warrant, maintaining that he remains a flight risk. Assange's legal team argues that Swedish prosecutors should question him at the Ecuadorian embassy in London to move the investigation forward.

julian assange· wikileaks· sweden· ecuadorian embassy· london· pussy riot

2:55:15 Well, I get these are all good stories but let's at least get this one out of the way. This is the Assange update so we know where he stands in the scheme of things because I just like to report and then I'm done. I'll use these others. I was reading about him...I think he had some chicks over or something and then he better get more than that. Pussy Riot came to visit him Oh, isn't that sweet? A Swedish court has rejected an appeal of the arrest warrant that's kept WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange confined in Ecuador's London embassy for over two years. Assange is wanted in Sweden for questioning on allegations of sexual misconduct though no charges have been filed

2:55:53 His voice fears he would ultimately be sent for prosecution in the United States if he were returned to Sweden over his involvement with WikiLeaks. Assange's attorneys have petitioned for the warrant to be withdrawn, arguing it cannot be enforced while Assange is in the embassy and Swedish prosecutors refuse to question him in London. On Thursday, the Swedish appeals court rejected Assange's challenge to a ruling against him earlier this year. In his statement, the court said it factored in that Assange is a flight risk and that he is, quote, suspected of crimes of a relatively serious nature. But it also suggested prosecutors should consider questioning him in London saying their refusal to do so, quote, is not in line with their obligation—in the interests of everyone concerned—to move the preliminary investigation forward, they said. What?

2:56:42 Did you understand any of that? The good argument was, and I think it's a good argument. They said his lawyer said look bring in these guys and question them here and then either indict him or don't indict him but do it here that'll move things along otherwise this will drag on forever and there'll be witnesses that are forgetting and there's all these evidence is going away You want to do it sooner not later And the fact that they're not doing it sooner A proof that all this is about is a scam to get him out of England so they could, the United States can grab him. Grab him yeah! Yeah, so I agree it's anyway that's my little update for Assange poor bastard. And I think he had Pussy Riot visit him which is kind of... It's those two hot girls. Yeah they're good looking ladies. He got the watch.

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Tech News, SPDY Protocol and WhatsApp Blue Dots

The tech segment covers the SPDY protocol, a $20,000 donation to the OpenBSD project from a Bitcoin billionaire, and the emergence of Li-Fi technology. Additionally, user backlash against WhatsApp's "blue dot" read receipts is discussed, alongside decentralized chat alternatives like Tox.

spdy· openbsd· li-fi· whatsapp· bittorrent· tox· facebook

2:57:35 Oh, and by the way ladies in case you didn't get enough of John's hate on war on women speech There's nothing dudes like more than two women getting it on so it was fair square It's just we got all the porn of it And you don't I know well maybe you do. I don't know this maybe there is probably is yeah Look around how many dudes are like? I don't know uh is enough. It isn't enough go get enough hate mail Okay No no people love you for this stuff Just real quick if you don't mind. The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite! Alright... Quick little tech news John- Tech news! Tech news! Um...tech news? Alright I just wanted to let everyone know who is sending me information about the SPDY protocol. If you say anything to an engineering audience they lose their shit

2:58:31 It's like HTTP 2.0, man! No? Okay... It's about the implementation by the Open Web Alliance if they want to use your SPDY connection to the big Google proxy That's what it's about Steve Gibson did a whole thing on SecurityNow about it, man Like, Speedy Yeah, about that but not about the Open Web Alliance implementing it Okay, that's one OpenBSD project is now continues to survive thanks to a 20,000 donation from my Romanian Bitcoin billionaire. A bitcoin billionaire? Yeah! I thought this was great news yeah the guy owns of course he's we owns one of the exchanges that's why well okay he owns the what is it when its exchanges

2:59:26 I didn't know the OpenBSD was on the ropes. Yeah, but did it need like $100,000 to keep it running? I don't understand. It doesn't...I never knew this either and doesn't make sense to me actually We've talked about this before but Li-Fi seems to be going mainstream This is instead of using Wi-Fi you use existing LED lighting Oh! It can transfer up to 160 megabits per second And you'd use it because... Instead of Wi-Fi. Just instead of Wi-Fi, just a different... You can have the electricity grid with lights attached to it is much more vast than Wi-Fi can be. Okay. The only last thing I have is... I picked this up from my daughter's WhatsApp

3:00:23 Facebook bought that. Who bought that? Facebook? Yeah, Facebook bought WhatsApp didn't they? Like a huge obscene amount of money. So she says it's now ruined because they've added something... I don't have it because I don't have a phone but they've added something called the blue dot. The blue dot tells you if the other person, the recipient has read the message which is a Facebook thing! I hate it! I never look at Facebook private messages because it's like getting an automatic email receipt Yeah, so it's like oh you know the you read this message at so-and-so time and the person who sent that to sees that. And they're like, well if I don't reply he's gonna think i'm a dick because he knows I saw it but I don't want to reply to him at all because it's annoying. So they've done that too uh to WhatsApp now apparently and people are going to start defecting and this is why we see these um Beatorin like chats popping up

3:01:22 And I told you DHT, distributed hash table. I told you that was going to be the future? Here it comes! So of course the BitTorrent guys have released BLEEP but they do it in a closed source way and then I got turned on this thing called TOX, T-O-X which is like Bitcoin for chat and file transfer and talking. It's time to close the tech section That's all I had, so don't worry about it. iPhone schmife phone! Alright then... Alright then Are you annoyed? Oh yeah You have to leave-I forgot that's right Sorry Yes i have a flight to catch Yeah I understand Okay Let's hold hands Let's do the going away prayer Share a secret Let's do the going away prayer Ok hit it The oldest grandchild has to do it John

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Outro, Psalm 121 Sign-Off

The hosts conclude the episode with their traditional sign-off from Amsterdam and Silicon Valley. Adam Curry recites a portion of the family prayer, Psalm 121, before ending the broadcast.

amsterdam· silicon valley· psalm 121· sign-off· netherlands

3:02:17 I don't have, i don't remember it. I'd have to go look it up. Lift on my eyes and to the hills from whence cometh my help My help cometh from the Lord Oh there was this one part in it where its uh The word is yey Y-E-A And invariably, you know the new kid on the block when a grandchild became old enough would say yeah and we go Snickerd idiot it's yay. Did you know that? You tripped on it It's like initiation Hey coming to you from That's the heart of Amsterdam, The Netherlands. In the pipe! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i remain until later I am John C. Dvorak And we will return on Thursday with one more show from Gitmo Lowlands right here on NO Agenda in the morning

3:03:21 That's how we go- that's how we roll. It was worth it! It was worth it, and her head is gone.