Episode 656 · Sunday, 28 September 2014

Gap Focused Thinking

Federal intelligence agencies undergo a massive power shift as the Department of Justice faces leadership changes and the White House grapples with security breaches.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 12m listen | 62 chapters
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About this episode

FBI Director James Comey is centralizing federal power by establishing a new Intelligence Branch, effectively positioning the Bureau as a direct competitor to the NSA and DHS. During a recent address, Comey utilized corporate jargon like the "donut of smart thinking" to describe the integration of intelligence into criminal investigations while simultaneously condemning Apple and Google for implementing device encryption. This structural shift coincides with a series of high-profile security incidents, including a White House fence-jumping breach and the sudden resignation of Attorney General Eric Holder.

Attorney General Eric Holder’s departure follows the release of the Goldman Sachs tapes and ongoing scrutiny regarding the Department of Justice's failure to issue criminal referrals for banking executives. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi praised Holder’s civil rights record at a Congressional Black Caucus event, while critics like Amy Goodman argue he solidified a wartime legal architecture. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama utilized a weekly podcast to frame American leadership as the primary force against ISIL and the Ebola epidemic, committing U.S. resources to global "climate assistance" for over 120 nations.

Cultural shifts toward public fear are highlighted by the media’s framing of the Moore, Oklahoma beheading as a terrorist act rather than a workplace dispute involving Alton Nolan. In a lighter moment, the program deconstructs the Photoshop Liquify tool used by Dutch gossip magazines to manipulate images of Adam Curry and Mickey Hoogendijk. The episode also features a critical look at Sarah Palin’s Value Voters Summit appearance and the curious case of FBI crime statistics reporting zero murders in Newtown for 2012.


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CHAPTER 01 / 62 Discussion

How to Get Away with Murder, Graphic Content on Network TV

ABC aired the premiere of the series How to Get Away with Murder, which featured graphic sexual content and profanity. The depiction of a gay investigator propositioning an IT worker for information is noted as a significant shift in network television standards. Concerns are raised regarding the lack of FCC fines for the Disney-owned network despite the explicit nature of the scenes.

abc· how to get away with murder· network television· profanity· graphic content

00:00 There's some good crap going on that you weren't paying any attention to apparently. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday September 28th 2014 time for your Get Monation Media Assassination episode 656! This is no agenda Braving hours of mind-numbing C-SPAN footage so you don't have to. From FEMA Region 6 in the capital of your own star state, Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I was watching all sorts of TV not just C-SPAN I'm John C. Dvorak. And that's the end of our show. It does! People watch it, jeez... I know, it really is pretty bad

00:48 This season is particularly annoying. Oh, you're not talking about just news and stuff? I'm talking about the big time. The big networks! The big networks... Yeah yeah. I'll tell ya, well actually I better say this for later in the show but there's some pretty gruesome stuff on TV There was profanity and... Oooh profanity Well I mean y'know the kind of profanity they would fine you for The F word, as a matter of fact. On network TV ABC of course which is related to the White House so they're not going to do anything to these guys there's a show with this gay character who essentially we see graphic gay sex scene. What show was this? This was How To Get Away With Murder

01:35 And there's a guy goes in, this guy who is one of the biggest investigators for his kind of... I don't even know. To be honest about it, I don't even know what this show is about. Whatever the case is some sort of mystery detective but there's no detective and there's a team of people and this one guys gay and he went to a gay bar to get some information about a case that somebody might know something about him. So he propositioned some gay IT guy And the guy gives him the goods in more ways than one. Wait a minute, was it a dude named Ben? No, he was like...

CHAPTER 02 / 62 Discussion

Community Standards, Racial Slurs and Listener Feedback

A Pakistani listener on a monthly donation program provided feedback regarding the use of the term "Paki" on the program. The term was used in a segment discussing British perspectives on immigration, leading to a debate on whether certain groups can use slurs amongst themselves while forbidding outsiders from doing so. The discussion explores the boundaries of character roles and skits in the context of community ethics.

community standards· racial slurs· paki· listener feedback· ethics

02:22 You know what's funny about that little song is that he actually sounds like the congressman. Well, it's interesting you bring this up because we have been called to task...called to account three separate instances of our own violation of community ethics and standards on this very program. What community are we discussing here? The no agenda family? Well, I've received feedback from the NoAgenda family. Yes. Okay? But I received one exactly one

02:57 for what I believe to be a character role. You know, very often I'll pretend to be a Russian which is one of my better ones. Yeah this is our kind of... This is our entertainment part of the show where we do skits! That's a skit and sometimes I can be a gay white guy or I can be an over-the-top black woman I'd never heard any of these people. Oh, yeah, nigga please! No this is what i did it nigga please oh yeah you say that all the time and i got a uh an email from our producers who were shocked

03:36 shocked that I did this. Yeah, okay and when you did it i was shocked too please but oh my please what have we come to yeah and my response is always well no one complains when I make fun of Russians or the Dutch or all right yeah well here's but here's what happens... You said the UK wants to get rid of the Paki's Oh, no. No, no I receive very specific news from one of our Pakistani listeners who is also now on a $5 month donation program he said that is racist we say it to each other that's okay but you sir you may not say it yeah well the reason it was said in the first place was as a

04:28 self-referential not to me, but from the perspective of a Pakistani in England and you just like It's like saying something. I don't know. I'm not going to Justify your use No, I am gonna justify my use I think was fine because it was indicative Of what the Brits are thinking yes? Yes Thank You And that's the way they think. That's what they're up to, and that term works right into that sort of thinking. I don't think it's a good term. I would never use it especially in England. Here nobody even knows what it means. When I lived in London British people would say that all the time around me not when there were Pakistanis around. No course not. And I want to point out if you don't like a word then you shouldn't be saying it amongst each other

CHAPTER 03 / 62 Discussion

ISIL Flag Album Art, Religious Desecration Claims

Producers expressed outrage over a recent album art depiction that placed the ISIL flag, which contains Quranic scripture, on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. While some viewed this as religious desecration, the conversation shifts to the legality of flag burning and the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has historically protected such acts as symbolic speech, despite ongoing public controversy.

isil· quran· album art· freedom of speech· supreme court

05:23 You know, that's just rubbing it in my face. Oh I can say Packy's you cannot say it hahaha! It's like Fag Queen Tranny She-Mail. The list goes on. Cripple...you know you can't say all these things? Ugh please but no one seems to be outraged about our president killing people And then the final one which I found, which i received from a producer of and getting a lot of good feedback from. We had album art three shows ago where we had the ISIL flag with apparently it has holy Quran scripture on it. We desecrated that by abusing album art with this holy scripture on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich! This is considered

06:18 Yeah, I can see that one. That's what I think is a legitimate complaint." I really didn't think about it at that point. Well, I guess so yeah and of course the... You put biblical verses on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and Christians don't get upset about it? Well what the producer said was you know it's illegal for you to wear the American flag in America as clothing. And I said no its not true. That used to be true in the 50s I think there is some regulation about disrespect, but you should be able to burn the flag. Most of that has been eliminated by the Supreme Court. You can burn the flag as freedom of speech. Well let's see how long that lasts...

07:02 Well, it is freedom of speech. No I'm not disagreeing with you but so anyway yes so you don't get much of that anywhere else but here and it is because we're on the edge man yeah oh I just cut myself on the edge John gotta be very careful we are on the edge brother that's right Well, I feel I'm on the edge. Ben... Ben Lutzer We do listen to these complaints and we do act accordingly. Joe Mancini And I understand and I do like to engage with people and say okay you know I understand your shocked and outrage but please give me the whole list of all the words you don't want me to use? Then yeah I never get an answer to that. Ben Lutzer That's because a list is too long. Joe Mancini Yeah so just get over it people

CHAPTER 04 / 62 Discussion

Personal Anecdotes, Drinking Tips and Marital Status

A brief discussion covers a failed attempt to use alcohol to combat loneliness, described metaphorically as landing a Cessna with cartoon pontoons. The conversation transitions to the return of a spouse from the Netherlands and a clarification regarding the technicalities of marriage and annulments in the United States.

loneliness· alcohol· marriage· annulment· personal life

07:53 You know, none of this comes from... It's not going to happen. Forget about it I'm sorry almost sorry brought it up but I have taken your advice. Oh yeah! I tried that drinking tip you gave me you know to combat loneliness Man, that's really a tip. Well, combat loneliness just get plowed. It also didn't work that well. Oh no I probably make you morose! Well it was kind of lonely now and I'm drunk... It was kind of like landing a Cessna with giant cartoon plantoons

08:34 pontoons, you know I'm just kind of like just gonna be drinking if you could fall asleep and not worry about yeah It didn't really didn't really work. Yeah, I don't know just it But anyway miss Mickey coming back on on Thursday If she's still my wife because yeah got in a quickie divorce there in the Holland Yeah This was this was quite cool an annulment Well, it would have to be an annulment in the United States where we've been, we were married our technical marriage is in the United States. Oh okay yeah um and so there are a couple of things I need to say about... So here's what happened and I sent John this uh this photo because I thought it was too hilarious. In the newsletter? Yeah

CHAPTER 05 / 62 Discussion

Dutch Gossip Magazines, Adam and Mickey Divorce Rumors

A Dutch gossip magazine titled Party published a cover story claiming the marriage between Adam Curry and Mickey Hoogendijk had ended following a blow-up in Amsterdam. The article alleged that Mickey was staying in the Netherlands because she disliked America and that the couple's money was gone. The hosts identify the cover photo as a manipulated image designed to make the subject look unflattering.

netherlands· party magazine· gossip· photoshop· mickey hoogendijk

09:19 So anyone who doesn't get the newsletter, you missed out on some good stuff. There was a gossip magazine in the Netherlands and the front page full cover picture of Mickey and I. Yeah! You're famous in The Netherlands. And it said marriage is over after Adam and Mickey divorcing. Inside was even funnier actually loosely translated We were both in Amsterdam for my 50th birthday, but then there was a big blow up and I left to go back to Austin. Mickey doesn't like America so she's renting a place in Amsterdam and it's over Oh! And all the money is gone too

09:59 Which is which is a super insult to Mickey that mean well? Here's the thing they hate you. Yeah, well somebody hates me I think what's what's going on here of course no one contacted me No one contacted me, but my ex-wife had no comment about Wow, okay. So G where would this rumor be coming from? Your ex-wife is quite a player when it comes to publicity and manipulating the media She's horrible! Well it depends on your point of view You know if you're running a PR agency you'd want somebody like that working for ya thats for sure Hey way to go friend I was just saying she really gets the job done

10:41 And the minute you saw the picture, you identified what I thought was pretty obvious. I loved it by the way. My enemies hate me so much They photoshopped you! So Mickey looks gorgeous of course in this picture and it's from our, uh...I think its from before our bachelor bachelorette party when we were getting married No she is actually one of the best looking pictures ever I've ever seen She was dynamite Yeah And they-and my eye looked like Just a like I smell out of my mouth. You look like screwy McGeek! Doesn't it looks like I have bad breath in that picture? Dork, it was hilarious when I saw it and said oh... And I knew what they did so I did it myself This was the great thing about the newsletter this is what I thought was relevant to what we do Yes Explain

CHAPTER 06 / 62 Discussion

Photoshop Liquify Tool, Media Manipulation Techniques

The process of media deconstruction is demonstrated through the use of the Photoshop Liquify tool to manipulate facial features. By shrinking the mouth and adjusting eye placement, an editor can significantly alter a subject's appearance to make them look foolish. A demonstration involving a photo of Joe Biden illustrates how quickly these digital alterations can be performed to influence public perception.

photoshop· liquify tool· joe biden· kai krause· media deconstruction

11:36 Well, what I did... What we do is we deconstruct. In other words, we reverse engineer what's going on in the news and the media. And so I did the same thing with that stupid picture of Adam which i just think was precious where and I knew what they did because I'm a pretty adept at Photoshopping this is and it was the easiest thing you can do and the simplest thing you can do and the fastest thing you can do which is use the liquify tool. So I took a picture of Joe Biden. I could have used another picture of Adam. In fact, I did one but I said it was too much But I took a picture of Joe Biden and then with the liquify tool, six strokes took about 60 seconds. I shrunk his mouth pulled his lower lip down which is what they did to you and then I also brought his eyes closer together and then kind of caved his head in but that wasn't so noticeable and presented it as...and it looks beautiful!

12:26 But because the liquified tool is such an easy... It's slick, yeah. It's very slick. It just moves things around and it stems from a Kai Klaus' old GU program. Wasn't that the Power Tools or whatever that was? I think GU was a separate product but in a power tools type of... genre and Adobe just dropped it in the program. It's actually kind of hard to find where it is, but it's there and you can do all kinds of cool things with it. You can move people's eyeballs around, you make them look cross-eyed but dropping the lower lip and then shrinking the mouth is really the key to making somebody look like a total dweeb

13:07 I found it so, um you know. I don't get hurt by these things it makes me laugh but it's very it's very... I'm sorry? It must be annoying! It must be annoyed! It's insulting to Mickey. It's insulting. The insult... the insulting... To the listeners of our show Well its also insulting to everyone's intelligence because if you think logically We still have our two-year interview coming up, I think in March for her green card where I have to report that yes we're still married. We love each other and she's performing her spousal duties as expected after that! Yes after that is when she can ditch me. Yeah so get you now. Bullcrap makes no sense. She'll ditch ya later. Exactly thanks John but it's time the drink

CHAPTER 07 / 62 Discussion

Blog Propagation, Misinformation in Celebrity News

False reports from low-circulation magazines often propagate through blogs, leading to the spread of inaccurate details such as incorrect surnames and residential locations. Friends and family members frequently react to these rumors, causing personal annoyance for the subjects involved. The speed at which misinformation travels on platforms like Twitter complicates the process of correcting the record.

blogs· misinformation· social media· twitter· fact checking

14:03 Oh my goodness anyway, so that was a very funny Thank you for saying Mickey turns out posted it on Twitter. Yeah, and then you do got lovey-dovey I thought it's kind of gross you should mean you know Carving your names tree. Oh please well You know it's do you how many people call me or email me say hey? Hey man is everything okay? That's the part that you never think about, but that's so annoying. Yes I understand that. And family members and you know... So Mickey has all kinds of people. Right! He reads this crap in a rag called Party? Which is it has the smallest circulation it is really really low down on the totem pole what happens is do you get these blogs

14:50 And it propagates, blogs copy it. It gets better, Mickey's name changes from Hoogendijk to Hoogendoorn... I mean so stupid! It's so obvious and everything. Everything is wrong where we live, you know They say Houston instead of Austin all these things that's an insult Yeah There's all kinds of stupid things like that but really when when when friends and family oh, it's everything okay So, yeah, uh-oh, it's so annoying You should have some guys some boilerplate No, it doesn't really work that way Because, you know... And sometimes you'll say it and people won't even believe you. Oh yeah sure man. Alright. Yeah. It's also fun to see who pops up. Oh! Old girlfriends? Of course they are that's the first ones. So I didn't actually buy it but I was shopping and I saw this and I thought let me just check and see if you're okay. I could come back a drop by if you need any help.

CHAPTER 08 / 62 Discussion

State Department Briefing, Matt Lee and Marie Harf

Associated Press reporter Matt Lee celebrated his birthday during a State Department briefing led by spokesperson Marie Harf. Harf presented Lee with balloons before transitioning into updates regarding Secretary John Kerry's efforts to build an anti-ISIL coalition. The interaction highlights the ongoing dynamic between the veteran reporter and the department's communication staff.

state department· matt lee· marie harf· associated press· isil coalition

15:54 Yeah, it is just funny. There was more on the love scene that happened in the past few days and Gitmo Nation and this comes from I have to say one of my favorite shows on television today and not just because its humor but also there is only one person I believe in the press corps who by his investigative work alone. It never, it can't really show up in his reporting because he worked for Associated Press and you know it would all be hearsay and conjecture and one-sided and there's no way to check it but the guy who asks the right questions always is Matt, Matthew Lee from AP and he just is relentless and he hounds these

16:49 any spokeshole for the State Department. And that's really what is the most interesting, is what he's asking in the responses... It can't show up in reporting because it's just his word against whoever happens to be standing there so watching it as very fun because you get a lot of context of how people are stumbling around the answers and something beautiful happened Of course the best shows are when Matt Lee is in the press corps and Marie Harf, our band camp girl is at the podium. These are the most fun! And just the other day we had once again another episode... Well Matt and Lou They're talking sensibly They're sitting in a tree S-S-I-N-G

17:48 It's the Matt and Marie Show! Starring... Matt Lee. Also starring... Marie Hart And we join our lovebirds in progress! is the, thank you. The dean of our press corps it's Matley's birthday so I wanted to start the briefing on a nice positive friendly note with some balloons and he has to have them the whole time he asks questions. Some balloons! So just feel free to use that if people ask. Okay, thank you very much. It's a great day mainly because the bills are staying in Buffalo so that's the best... This guy doesn't know how to pick up chicks. Doesn't at all! So far. I'll put this right here. Tie them down with... Oh good

18:47 Anyways, happy birthday. Anyways? You gotta love a PR person who says anyways. Anyways, happy birthday Matt. Thank you very much I do not have anything at the top. The secretary is on his way to the region right now, and to continue working on building an anti-ISIL coalition as we've talked about a lot but besides that nothing else at the top except for Matt's birthday. All right. I may have gotten that tip from a few people that it was your birthday. Okay well you have good sources. Not as good as you do but... Anyway thank you again. Yeah they can pretend all they want. What?

CHAPTER 09 / 62 Discussion

White House Security Breach, Eric Holder Resignation

A security breach occurred at the White House when an intruder jumped the fence and entered the front door armed with a knife. This event coincided with the start of U.S. bombing campaigns in the Middle East and the sudden resignation of Attorney General Eric Holder. Speculation arises that these events may be connected to internal political pressures or the "Fast and Furious" investigation.

white house· security breach· eric holder· department of justice· fast and furious

19:27 You say you had good sources, not as good as you have or something. It was awkward. After the press conference, the crews are always standing around and there's no video only have audio of it because I guess the sound guy kept running and the video wasn't running they were standing outside Marie Harf's office door. Yeah. Okay onward to the real news! Yes we have some I There's messaging going on and we have talked about this before. I think you are the one that brought it up, and it may be related six days ago guy jumps the fence at the White House but no one shoots him No one tazes in the dogs not released The front door is open he walks right in He's got a knife Yeah says hello The day after that We start bombing make-believe bullcrap

20:44 I think the president, you know this is one of these messages like we can get to you anytime. We want yo so you gotta do what we tell you to do right which is obviously with We've pointed this out for years now because remember the phony baloney couple that snuck into an event? Or the translator, you know the phony deaf guy. Oh yeah! That was good. Yeah it was great. The phony guy up there doing signing at the Mandela thing. Yeah and he's standing right next to the president So I think it is all... There is a like a shadow network of

21:30 maybe we'll just call it the warmongers, who want stuff to happen. And this was a message and I'm thinking this Holder resignation is not unrelated. It's a possibility that it's kind of out of the blue I'd say... Howard Baetjer It doesn't really make a lot of sense. John Maass And, you know, there's they say all well because you know the judge ordered something about Fast and Furious to be released now and I'm not buying that. I don't think that's the reason. Howard Baetjer The whole administration has been good at covering up everything else and keeping from turning over anything in the wise white what's changed nothing?

CHAPTER 10 / 62 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, Congressional Black Caucus Hot Mic

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi announced the resignation of Eric Holder during a Congressional Black Caucus event. Background audio from a hot mic captured the reactions of attendees as Pelosi praised Holder's work regarding the family of Michael Brown and civil rights. Media outlets like MSNBC and PBS have begun "circling the wagons" to protect Holder's legacy.

nancy pelosi· congressional black caucus· eric holder· hot mic· michael brown

22:08 No, I do what's interesting to me though about this was all the was the That's the reaction to him quitting including my actual fate is my favorite one This is Nancy Pelosi who's at a if I don't know what she's doing there where she said the black caucus Congressional black because she's black of course talking to people there and half of them You know There's a lot of people in the Black Caucus and I think a few of them are senile. Oh And so they leave their mic open. So the mic technician is senile? No, no those are all these are all those button mics that they have in there while you see them to be pushed by button right push a button and the mic comes on right and then he pushed the button in the micro and if you don't push it off then you're going to be live

22:56 So they had a bunch of live, couple live people and this is Pelosi mentioning just mentioning that Holder's quitting and then you hear the stuff in the background. Working to calm tensions and find justice for the family of Michael Brown This attorney general has accomplished so much and so many are sad to see him leave. That feeling was captured this morning when White House, when the house democratic leader Nancy Pelosi announced his resignation at a congressional black caucus event The word is now that the Attorney General will resign today and he has served our country very, very well. But the message is that the attorney general will be... Now you sweetened this! Is this for real? I did not! Oh my god, this is great! ...submitting his resignation Wait a moment, hold on, I'm sorry I stepped on that Wow, that's fantastic! Oh shock and horror! ...that the attorney general will be submitting his resignation to the president

23:57 You can hear the shock and disappointment in him, but only because his record has been so impressive. And his commitment's so strong." Wow! That's good So what I got out of this was that black commentators except the ones on Fox of course but most of the other ones on PBS and else...PBS obviously all the main news outlets and MSNBC for sure. They're circling the wagons around this guy, they're going continually going on and on about how great he's gonna go down in history as a matter of fact I have the one here from Polar Analysis on PBS is with Gwen Ifill. Oh this is our hagiographer. Yeah, hagiographer so she comes on it believe this is the one where

CHAPTER 11 / 62 Discussion

Eric Holder Legacy, Civil Rights and LGBT Rights

PBS host Gwen Ifill and various commentators discussed Eric Holder's tenure, focusing on his impact on LGBT rights, voting rights, and criminal justice reform. Supporters claim Holder will be remembered as one of the greatest Attorneys General in U.S. history. Critics, however, point to his role in the pardon of Marc Rich and his aggressive prosecution of whistleblowers as defining parts of his record.

eric holder· gwen ifill· pbs· civil rights· voting rights

24:47 She has, she talks first to a black guy who has one of those California black accents which makes him sound like a white guy. But it's not, it's a black guy and he is all in on... You are such a racist! No, I should say an accent that you have black people that sound like white guys in California. I just want to point out that you would never hear this statement anywhere. No one would even think to say that. Yeah, I know but its what it is. Thank you. Are we good? Yeah, I hit that. Mr. Bonspikovsky earlier compared this attorney general—this outgoing attorney general to an attorney general who was brought—who was left apart under a cloud, shall we say? Mitchell. Who would you—I noticed today that one of the first calls he made notifying about his retirement or stepping down was to Ethel Kennedy. Is that who he identifies with? Well, I'll tell you, he certainly earned the comparison because when you look at the major issues and if you just take,

25:42 the cause of LGBT rights in this country. Eric Holder was on the right side of history, and he was on the right side of history in a way that not only allowed the department to comport with its traditional role but in a way that allowed us to move forward in a way that has transformed this country ever since. So I think when we look back, and again in the fullness of time we consider his tenure, we consider what he's done in criminal justice reform, we consider what he's done in voting rights, when you consider what he's done for civil rights, I think there is no question that Eric Holder will be one of the greatest attorneys general that uh...the country has seen. Well he outlasted critics Mr. Spikovsky? I don't think so. I think going down the road uh... the legacy that he's going to be considered it too have

26:29 is not going to be a good one and not one that's very complimentary to him. Final word? Well, I think... Yeah give her the final word! She throws it back to the guy who's gonna say something nice for the final word And of course he was on the right side of history when he actively helped Mark Rich get a pardon from President Clinton Yeah, right side of history. That was totally on the right side of history when he started going after whistleblowers. Totally on the right side of history I think it was threatened John. You know, you got to we have to keep a close eye on McCain. Have you seen any of these McCain with Al Baghdadi photos that have been circulating around which is not being shown anywhere on any news for obvious reasons? You know I wonder about the legitimacy of those pictures. I've looked at many of them yeah me too but still... Yeah but there's a lot of similar there's people coming and going from the picture

CHAPTER 12 / 62 Discussion

Eric Holder Critics, Race as a Political Proxy

Eric Holder previously stated that critics attacked him as a way to target President Barack Obama due to their shared racial identity. Commentators on MSNBC, including Krystal Ball, echoed this sentiment, suggesting Holder served as a proxy for the President's policy priorities. The discussion questions whether race is being used to deflect legitimate criticism of Department of Justice policies.

eric holder· race· barack obama· msnbc· drug law enforcement

27:30 The same exact picture, the same exact pose with a different person there? I don't know what the original is but i think most of these have been shopped. Could be... it's hard to say Well, let's listen to a couple. I got it. I collected a bunch of these because they're so funny but let's play yeah older stuff Yeah, just good music to watch these people circle the wagon and Amy Amy Goodman, of course Yes on actually Another and wait a minute here's one second should we just just for our you for our European Australian? People from other lands it just know that Eric Holder is the Attorney General in the United States. He is the top dog and all law enforcement. Is everything underneath him? Not just CIA, but FBI is... Everything but intelligence is not. But isn't FBI under him or not? Yes! Yeah they are okay

28:20 But more on that later. Okay, so people bust into pot shops in California where it has been legalized for medical uses all because of Holder. And this is yeah, Holders also the guy who famously said we need to brainwash people to give up their guns Right very just a bad guy. Yeah, well I guess not if you go to MSNBC and this that we're gonna skip Amy for a minute Let's go listen what crystal ball has to say okay? He didn't go to Birmingham no he did not right Eric Holder went to Ferguson himself but but let me deal with his critics so with you crystal because

28:58 because in 2011 Eric Holder spoke to the New York Times about his critics and said this about their attacks on him. Quote, This is the way they get at the president because of the way I can identify with him both due to the nature of our relationship and you know that we are both African American. What's your response? I think it's just true and Congresswoman in the last block said this exactly. He was seen as a proxy for the president both because they have a close relationship, they're friends and because he was pushing a lot of the President's policy priorities forward in terms of immigration, even approach to drug law enforcement Drug law enforcement? Really? She throws that in there

29:49 Yeah, and that's not okay for people to... Of course it is completely accepted. But it should not make any difference what race or background you are and that's all love doing this. That's crap as bull And they use it at the end then they gather their wagons around these guys Why why are they doing? This is I did so It appears to me this was a total surprise came out of left field nobody no one expected and even worse I think people what I'm hearing they sound frightened Well, I think you may be on to something because this was out of the blue. There's no pre-done packages. Yeah thank you. These are all flying out of there ad libbed and just yeah Amy here's it let's play the two Goodman ones because they're always entertaining Amy Goodman and she's got a guy who thinks he's a schmuck and then another guy circling the wagons your response is to his overall record in what President Obama said well regarding

CHAPTER 13 / 62 Discussion

Amy Goodman, National Security and Financial Prosecution

Democracy Now host Amy Goodman interviewed critics of Eric Holder who argued he solidified a "wartime architecture" within the legal system. The discussion highlights Holder's continuation of Bush-era policies, including indefinite detention at Guantanamo Bay and warrantless surveillance. Additionally, the DOJ's failure to prosecute large financial firms for money laundering led to the "too big to jail" criticism.

amy goodness· democracy now· guantanamo bay· money laundering· too big to fail

30:45 the intersection of national security and civil rights, I think he's had a very troubling legacy most fundamentally by extending and solidifying this sort of wartime architecture and narrative into our legal system. And so in some ways, he has been an extension of the Bush administration's Justice Department around indefinite detention at Guantanamo. the warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens, and in some areas has even gone farther around the targeting of journalists who seek to expose illegal federal government misconduct and the use of targeted killing practices to execute U.S. citizens without due process? Was there an alternative?

31:35 Certainly there was an alternative. The alternative I think had been articulated fundamentally by President Obama or candidate Obama How about not killing people? Can you believe she said that?! Is there an alternative to killing people!? Is there an alternative to all these illegal activities and spying on the public is there an alternative to that? I don't see it! I really don't see any alternative So, she's an idiot so she brings on a stooge Who goes on with, you know... Unfortunately he goes on too long and I cut this way down. It's okay. But I like it. It's fine. I like it. This is huge. Part two. Tens of millions to the worst recession we've faced in 70 years. Tens of millions of people being thrown out at work. Millions of people being thrown out of their homes. Is this a great country or what? Basically immunity and in fact when the Department of Justice under Eric Holder found evidence of large financial firms engaging in epic level money laundering Ah! Hold on a second

32:28 Could this be related to the Goldman Sachs tapes? I don't know. On behalf of narco-traffickers and countries the U.S. government considers to be enemies, it still decided not to criminally prosecute them on the grounds that they were too big to fail or as it became known, too big to jail. Essentially a decision was taken— Essentially? —that if you are financial institution and become big enough and powerful enough, you are above the criminal law. And unfortunately that too is going to be a major part of Eric Holder's legacy Professor Michael Eric Dyson, your assessment of the attorney general? Well, I agree with Attorney Parole. I think he's one of the most extraordinary attorney generals in the history of this nation By the time he finishes, he may be the third longest serving attorney general ever He has weathered a storm of an enormous racial backlash against black people in power at the top Really? He is arguably the second most powerful black person in the history of American politics after the president himself

33:30 So this is a man who was a proxy for the president in many ways, in terms of the symbolic representation of black power and the way in which—or American power in a black man I should say. And the way in which that has been responded to by such vicious and acrimonious, if you will, articulations by people in the Senate, people who are questioning the attorney general, by politicians who felt open season on him And as a result of that, when we look at his record we got to put it in the context of the abstract versus the real. The abstract versus what's achievable I think in that case he will stand tall in the history of American jurisprudence and certainly is one of the great attorneys general of all time. There you have it

CHAPTER 14 / 62 Discussion

Bank Regulation, Criminal Referrals and Eric Holder

A former bank regulator on Al Jazeera explained that the Department of Justice failed to reestablish the criminal referral process for banking executives. During the Savings and Loan crisis, thousands of referrals were made, but zero were made during the recent financial crisis. Critics argue that Eric Holder could have reinstated these referrals with a single email to regulatory agencies but chose not to.

al jazeera· bank regulation· criminal referrals· george w. bush· financial crisis

34:16 Now, just as a little background I have one more clip which is not about him specifically. It discusses him but this guy was a bank regulator and he was on...I can't remember what show but it was one of these shows And he has this very interesting little diatribe. This is Holder the banks and criminal referral I didn't know a lot of this. They have made it a conscious decision not to go after bankers if they had the authority and they had the law behind them, and they could've turned whistleblowers and Just for background, this is from Al Jazeera's financial show.

35:02 our big finance and in particular the only reason President Obama is President Obama is the ability to win the Democratic nomination which was a major upset as you recall. And he was able to out-raise Hillary Clinton who is an historic friend of of the banks. So there's that second thing is what people don't understand, of course, is that banks don't make criminal referrals against their own CEOs those criminal referrals can only come from the banking regulatory agencies in a savings and loan crisis which was less than one 100th

35:40 the size of this crisis. Our agency made over 30,000 criminal referrals that same agency in this massively greater crisis made zero criminal referral and it did so because under the Bush administration they eliminated the criminal referral process Now, obviously they're responsible for that. But Eric Holder could have reestablished the criminal referral process with one email to the regulatory agencies and he's failed to do so despite very substantial criticism from people like me. So there is a lot of analysis about this about the financial

CHAPTER 15 / 62 Discussion

Goldman Sachs Tapes, Holder Resignation Ceremony

The release of the Goldman Sachs tapes is suggested as a potential catalyst for Eric Holder's sudden resignation. During the official announcement on C-SPAN, President Obama made a recurring joke about "marrying up" in reference to Holder's wife, who is an OB-GYN. Observers noted the somber, funeral-like atmosphere of the event, which lacked the typical celebratory tone of White House announcements.

goldman sachs· c-span· barack obama· eric holder· ob-gyn

36:21 world. Yeah, maybe he's falling on his sword. I think the Goldman Sachs tapes which i really have not been able to get into mainly for lack of the Goldman Sachs tapes yes which is apparently some hours and hours of it could be something in there again I think you point out wisely that he quit out of the blue yeah and he could be in those tapes did you see I was of course watching C-SPAN when the president and the attorney general came in to announce his resignation. First, his wife came in who's...and I should have clipped this but I don't know why I decided against it but President Obama he made a joke you know like well like me Attorney General married up haha

37:11 Right, I saw this. And he said his wife was... The married up joke he uses all the time! ...and he said his wife is an OB-GYN. I've never heard of it. O B G Y N? An OB-GYNE? Have you ever heard it pronounced that way? I think its a science fiction character. Very good but when his wife and his sons came in, It was like awake man everyone was quiet. It was complete funeral they're all dressed in dark Did you see his kids? The Holder's kids. I didn't pay any attention to them. Yeah, no it was before they came in and I was watching the whole scene. They were all black! Yeah they were almost like a veil his wife had she was wearing a body veil nice sexy number there but it was veiled...I don't know It was really wake-ish. Huh yeah so then ladies and gentlemen the President of the United States no hooting and hollering no clapping everyone stands up like here's the body

38:07 I mean, let's really face it. There was an article that I saw just to give you an example and people can use this around the office. It is kind of fun to do this. And there were a lot of people who had been doing this for years or so. And they would say, well, we're going to have a meeting with the president about this. We now have a definitive... where is it? Ah, sorry. Yes this comes from... where's it come from hopefully some something valuable Fukushima It has now been certified as not contaminating the Pacific

CHAPTER 16 / 62 Discussion

Fukushima Radiation, Mother Nature Audio Clip

Nuclear expert Rod Adams reports that the Nuclear Regulation Authority has certified that Fukushima is not contaminating the Pacific Ocean to the extent previously feared. The segment mocks past alarmist claims about radioactive tuna and "death clouds." An audio clip is played featuring Rod Adams recording "Mother Nature" screaming, a satirical response to Secretary John Kerry's rhetoric.

fukushima· radiation· pacific ocean· rod adams· john kerry

39:04 Oh, and I'm bullcrapping us. Well, I bought this huge jar of iodine pills and I want to make sure...I thought we were supposed to die? Where's the big cloud by now where is the floating debris of radioactive waste where are the dying fish where is the radioactive tuna Yeah, where's all that stuff? Where is all that? What happened to those guys who were walking around with Geiger tellers? What happened to the guys who told us that was going to happen. Well they're still selling seeds and iodine. They're doing fine! Actually I got this tip from Suratomic Rod Adams

39:49 And of course is on top of all this stuff because that's what he does. Then even has, you know and it's in the show notes you can see that is now it's been certified. The nuclear regulation authority and everyone saying oh well it's okay we're all going to live or not gonna die. An then he sent me this other thing in reference to what Spokeshole Kerry said You recall that he said this the other day. who is screaming at us about it. And so Atomic Rod... By the way, turned out it wasn't Mother Nature some old lady across the street Well, Atomic Rod went out in nature with his iPhone and recorded Mother Nature screaming at him Oh my goodness How could any birds be alive? That makes zero sense They shouldn't be recordable of Mother Nature screaming

41:02 You get the point. Yeah, okay I have a much better bird clip than that. I'll send it in this is the birds of Holland when i was in the Netherlands with Jan Eelman we're taking a tour of all the restaurants in this country literally and I hate using that word but its fact I had him pull over because we were in some wooded area and there's a lot of woods there people don't realize. And it was, the birds were just out of control noisy because it had just rained and somebody mentioned that after rain the birds really started yelling at each other because there is all kinds of food coming up. I have good birds. This is my... You got birds in Austin?

CHAPTER 17 / 62 Discussion

Tech News, Russian Breeder Reactors and Nuclear Waste

Rosatom has produced the first batch of mixed oxide fuel tablets for next-generation breeder reactors in the Krasnoyarsk region. This technology aims for a closed fuel cycle that produces no waste, potentially revolutionizing nuclear energy. The documentary "Pandora's Promise," now on Netflix, is recommended for its exploration of environmentalists who have converted to supporting nuclear power.

rosatom· breeder reactors· nuclear energy· pandora's promise· netflix

41:47 Those water things that's like when you hit your head, and you're all dizzy Birds well if You mentioned rod Adams we might as well mention something said but since just a little stand the time for just for a second I do have tech news. Oh You know the tech news jingles on this one has it built in jingle oh hold on a second? Do I just play it Welcome back. It's the start of the second half so that means it's time for this month's tech news. Wait, there must be a new phone! Did I miss a new phone? Is there another phone besides the iPhone? No, this is actual tech news. Oh, tech news...

42:30 The first ever batch of mixed oxide fuel tablets have been produced by Rossatom at the Mining and Chemical Combine in the Krasnoyarsk region. The mixture of uranium and plutonium dioxides are designed for use in next generation breeder reactors currently operating at a Beloyarskaya nuclear power plant. The technology enables a closed fuel cycle that doesn't produce any waste, paving the way for new clear future! No waste. Yeah, it's the breeder reactors which we've been talking about for years This is the newest version and this has got no waste and apparently very efficient Oh wait a minute, we can't do anything like that in this country because we're scared of the radiation It was pointed out to me that Pandora's Promise is now on Netflix That's a movie you should...it's a documentary

43:19 Could have been better, but it's definitely worth watching. And if you search search dot any show notes dot com you can find the show where we reviewed it and when Miss Mickey and I went to see it and we were the only people in the movie. Yeah yeah only people The Only People wants to go see some propaganda like that. It's not going to be good Did she bring iodine pills? Well especially because it's Stuart Brand who is a known greenie who who converted during this, and a number of others. I know a number of greenies that have converted to this thinking but there's still so few that it just can't get any headway. And you'll bring...we should do it. So now you say hey, you know, it was like... The other thing is General Electric is a big nuke operation

44:06 And they're so in the White House. I mean, they go all in when they own NBC...still the remnants of NBC is all Democrat. They promote and do everything they can to get on the good side of the government especially the Democrats and they get nowhere with it when it comes to their new program. Yeah! And if you bring it up then people say oh yeah? You might want to talk to the people in Japan about nuclear energy Yes, that's what they do. Well most people died from the tsunami not from any kind of poisoning or radiation and radiation you don't really have to be afraid of radiation by itself radiation is not something that is going to kill you indiscriminately Kind of tying into tech news there and also a little bit of Holder

CHAPTER 18 / 62 Discussion

Battle for the Homeland, FBI Director James Comey

FBI Director James Comey is identified as a major power player with past ties to Lockheed Martin and HSBC. Comey, who prosecuted the Martha Stewart case, is described as being at the center of a "battle for the homeland" among various government agencies. The discussion focuses on his background as a lawyer and banker before taking over the Bureau.

james comey· fbi· homeland security· hsbc· martha stewart

45:02 I was thinking about the term homeland, which we've been identifying. People use this over and over... Right it's been irritating you more and more. Yeah. And I'm thinking there is a battle for the homeland. And then I fell into a path, a rabbit hole if you will that there are multiple agencies... Oh gosh sorry. Sorry you okay. No, I'm gonna say somebody out there the lozenge off button I need to off but more than what oh? I'm sorry you grossed out by a cough gee no no it's just it's you You've been your coffee. I'm here I'm concerned and I'll tell you why this cough has been getting worse and worse no no It hasn't know it hasn't though you were coughing if I rang the bell every time you coughed you'd be at least 10 20 times Okay

45:50 So I'm glad so good you should be because without me yeah, well Exactly or the show could be Adam Curry and Adam Curry Yeah, we can go with that. All right. So there's a battle for the homeland multiple agencies are vying for this and of course when you have a homeland when you call your country the homeland it is pretty obvious that Homeland Security is going to be a bunch of guys who are protecting the homeland which is pretty frightening especially when you know how large the Department of Homeland Security is huge so coming into this tech news

46:30 was a lot of, you know like an instant burst of information about something our new director the Federal Bureau of Investigation Comey had said. Now we've been looking at Comey for awhile for number reasons it turns out he I think it was also...he ran some or five years he was operational in some not Raytheon but what's another big one? A bunch of them let's look it up while And then he was also, I think chairman of the board at HSBC. So this guy is very well connected. Then now he's a lawyer. Yeah, lawyer banker. He was...yeah well that's the same thing. He was assistant district attorney and you know, he's been involved- He's a player? He's a big time player. Big time player. And he said something which at a press conference

47:25 on Thursday, which for some unknown reason there is no audio or video recording. So I don't understand if it was a press conference that the press was there why...and I looked on C-SPAN which is where I fell down the rabbit hole. Okay before you go on I gotta say this is a little tidbit I didn't realize since I used to bring it up all the time on the show. Comey is credited as the main prosecutor in the Martha Stewart case! Didn't know that either so he's a dick Apparently what what? Contracted some in the military industrial complex finding it five years

CHAPTER 19 / 62 Discussion

Apple Encryption, FBI Concerns Over Privacy

FBI Director James Comey expressed deep concern over new privacy protections from Apple and Google that prevent law enforcement from unlocking encrypted devices. Comey argued that marketing a "closet that could never be opened" allows criminals to place themselves above the law. He specifically cited child kidnapping cases as a reason why total encryption is a threat to public safety.

apple· google· encryption· privacy· james comey

48:04 And I'm not going to get into that. But, you know, it's a good question because I think there are some people who have been in this business for decades and they've had a lot of success with their businesses. Read what Comey said again. I'm very disappointed there was no audio or video Sorry wrong one are now speaking of the FBI and James Comey looks like the intelligence official is a little worried about his access to your phone The agency director said on Thursday that he was quote, very concerned about the new steps that tech giants like Apple and Google were taking to strengthen privacy protection on cell phones. Last week Apple announced it would no longer be possible to technically unlock encrypted iPhones and iPads because user passcodes could no longer be bypassed meaning the law enforcement officials

48:59 wouldn't be able to tap into your mobile devices anymore. Comey, however wasn't too pleased he said quote I'm a huge believer in the rule of law but i'm also believer that no one in this country is beyond the law what concerns me about this as companies marketing something expressly to allow people to place themselves above the law He went on to say, quote the notion that someone would market a closet that could never be opened even if it involves a child excuse me A case involving a child kidnapper. Think of the children! Oh yeah And a court order To me does not make any sense I find this completely to be the most absurd statement Yeah we don't care what you think So that- That I found an interesting statement where he is saying You cannot market a product That has complete

49:41 Security. Because then you place, you're saying hey criminals buy my product so I wanted to see what this press conference was could not find it could not find a transcript or anything but i did find very strange he...I guess he was forced to do..he's coming into his own now And now he's, you know...now it's a couple months. He's been in his department and this guy is like a nut job operator! And he is a frightening individual and I'm going to let you hear why So he was forced through this Friday afternoon—and this was the week before—keynote God knows what it was for but it was on C-SPAN It's from the 17th of September

CHAPTER 20 / 62 Discussion

Cyber Vectors, James Comey's Linguistic Tells

During a speech on C-SPAN, James Comey used the term "vector" to describe the evolution of crime from the era of J. Edgar Hoover to modern cyber threats. Analysts noted a recurring linguistic "tell" where Comey grunts or says "right?" softly after making questionable claims. He compared the proximity of Shanghai to Indianapolis on the internet to illustrate the changing nature of national security.

cyber security· vector· james comey· j. edgar hoover· shanghai

50:27 Or the 20th. And he is in front of an almost an empty auditorium, you know it's like people are like crap look at this guy this Comey guy his lawyer banker guy go see what he has to say and I'll start off with this bit about Cyber as this is one of his main main points of operational focus. I've tried to explain to people who know the world of cyber less than you that you would be the audience. Cyber touches everything I'm responsible for counter-terrorism, counterintelligence and all of our criminal responsibilities manifest in cyber because it's not a thing it's just away right? It's a vector. It's a vector John. You might want to write this down. Wow! This guy is... He IS a vector. It's a way that bad people do things. Cyber is a way the bad people do things Because we

51:26 As a people have connected our entire lives to the internet, right? It's where my children play. It's where I bank it's where my health care is It's where my nation's critical infrastructure is that's what our nation secrets are. It is where everything is maybe in this country and around the world Sorry, so maybe was a dumb idea connecting all this stuff. I was never but an advocate but also I find that to be an oversimplification. Oh, yeah. Cyber is not where your kids play and where you bank. That's not exactly that...that is more a series of tubes analogy. He's looking meta I guess. That vector change touches everything I'm responsible for. Vector change? What was the old vector? Ah! I'm glad you asked.

52:13 And they gave me, a local sheriff gave me a bullet fired from John Dillinger's Thompson submachine gun. As I stared at the Dillinger bullet it occurred to me that a great vector change of the 20th century actually gave birth to the modern FBI because in the 1920s into 1930s the confluence of asphalt and automobile was a vector change that the world had never seen before. Now pay attention to what he's saying here, it is very interesting Suddenly criminals could commit crimes across unheard of distances two states three states in the same day moving at speeds that were unimaginable 40 miles an hour downhill 50 miles an hour

52:56 County lines suddenly were not relevant. State lines were not relevant and a national force was needed to respond to that vector change there was the first director of the FBI, J Edgar Hoover and modern FBI was born to respond to that new vector that new way so you understand the vector analogy now? You good with vectors? No! Not really I mean i do understand but I'm not good with it but okay I can see what he's up too well Joe...you have no idea my friend And I'm gonna play a little bit more of this cyber vector thing and i started noticing something very strange that he does which really, and this is so typical of our show. It really didn't notice it until I started to listen...and not watch. As I stood there staring at the Dillinger bullet it occurred to me that Dillinger could not do

53:48 A thousand robberies in all 50 states, in the same day. In his pajamas from halfway around the world. That's what today's vector change represents right? The unheard of distances... Now I don't think you've heard it yet but I started hearing all of these he's grunting in between his staccato phrases and the grunts are sometimes But very, very quietly he sometimes... and usually after he says something that is total crap. He says right? Listen to this. By this threat I was in Indianapolis Shanghai's next Indianapolis on the internet Do you hear it? Yeah its going rrrr Well he is saying right Saying Right When he says Shanghai is next to the next Indianapolis on the Internet he says right

54:42 Yeah, but he says it very softly. I have a couple more exactly. Oh my neck! From halfway around the world that's what today's vector change represents The unheard of distance... You hear it right? He is saying it all constantly But only when its bullshit That is his tell It's like sticking your tongue out So to say Shanghai is next to Illinois on the internet yeah okay but it's bull crap And here's another one. Troubling tell, but I believe it will be very advantageous for us to pay attention to that when he's testifying or doing... So we need to know that. This is a fantastic find! Now this guy —I have a couple more clips here— and you're right it's very hard to hear. It comes from the subconscious deep in his throat. And when you really listen to it on headphones it's just oh my god

CHAPTER 21 / 62 Discussion

FBI Transformation, The Donut of Smart Thinking

James Comey described the "transformation" of the FBI as wrapping the core gift of human interaction in a "donut of smart thinking." Using Silicon Valley-style corporate jargon, he explained his vision for integrating intelligence into every aspect of the Bureau's work. This "donut" approach is intended to continue the structural changes initiated by his predecessor, Bob Mueller.

fbi· bob mueller· intelligence· corporate jargon· donuts

56:00 And he had so you use it a lot of sports metaphors. Oh, yeah and he is again He's an operator and listen and he just goes off the deep end on What he thinks the FBI should be doing and please be aware Well, I got a bombshell coming up in a minute first Listen to this one of my worries in communicating with my workforce is that sometimes, especially with people who've been around a while when they hear words like domain requirement gaps the terms of art of the intelligence profession. Sometimes for people who aren't familiar with them it sounds a little bit foreign I just described the entire thing to you without using those words what i said to the special agents at the FBI The FBI transformation oversimplified as simply this

56:49 The core of the FBI, the gift at the core of the FBI is to interact with other human beings and get stuff. Stuff? Get stuff! What we're trying to do is get more thoughtful about what stuff do we need to know how are we going to find that stuff out Did you actually hear what he said about the core of the FBI? Right Well were trying to... Hold on That was creepy There's a dropout in the tape unfortunately The FBI, the gift at the core of the FBI is to interact with other human beings and get stuff We interact with other human beings and we GET STUFF You know, like the Boston guys. We shoot your head off and we get stuff from you Maybe we'll get the stuff first then we'll interact with you by shooting you in the head Right? What were trying to do is getting more thoughtful But what stuff do we need to know? Oh! What's stuff

57:32 How are we gonna find that stuff out? And the stuff we find out, who needs to know that?" It's a lot of stuff he talks about. "-And how does it connect to the other stuff we know? To get that done... I need to wrap that gift in a donut of equally talented people." Why do these Cotwell guys...? "-I've noticed this about this character once before. He sounds like He, with slightly different language he sounds like a Silicon Valley bull crapper. Yeah! That's because he was at Lockheed Martin for awhile and picked up this style of presentation. And he is wrapping anything? And he is wrapping stuff in donuts?! Think about that all day long... What stuff do we need to know? How are we going to find that stuff out?

58:11 How does that connect to other stuff that we know and who needs to know the stuff? We just learned are you kidding me shit I can be the director of the FBI right, but that is my intelligence cadre To surround that gift which is my special agents oversimplified But that's how I conceive of it. The transformation that Bob Mueller began and then I'm gonna continue Is simply trying to make sure that that doughnut of smart thinking, of creative thinking, of gap focus thinking surrounds everything that the FBI does. The donut of smart thinking. Of gap focused thinking! So whether we're working a criminal case or cyber or counterintelligence or counterterrorism Or training recruiting Thinking about security Thinking about the budget Thinking about everything the FBI does All those activities are suffused with that same thinking so what stuff do you need to know?

CHAPTER 22 / 62 Discussion

FBI Intelligence Branch, Turf Wars with NSA

James Comey announced the creation of a new Intelligence Branch within the FBI, moving the intelligence directorate out from under the National Security Branch. This move is interpreted as a significant power grab, potentially positioning the FBI as a direct competitor to the NSA and DHS. The shift allows the FBI to integrate intelligence more deeply into criminal and cyber investigations.

fbi· nsa· intelligence branch· congress· national security branch

59:07 etc. etc. Yeah, thank you now Now this guy drops a bombshell and I didn't know this I have so far been unable to find the record of it But it blew me right off. It blew my socks off." Who's been traveling to that country? Who do you know who went back there? Who is studying the hard sciences from that country? Get me lots of stuff, bring it back and smart people will figure out what we're going to do with that and who needs to know that?" That by the way sounds perfect to me. That's how we do it. Give me some stuff! We'll have the smart people look at this stuff. This guy is an idiot. Now here comes... Because I believe this has to be part of everything the FBI does,

59:49 the intelligence directorate and taking it out from under the national security branch. The moment I walked in the door, looked at our organization chart, I said that doesn't make sense to me because if i'm trying to drive this integration this way of thoughtfulness into everything we do what's that doing sitting under the national security branch? I want a part of criminal, I wanted part of cyber, I wanted part of everything we do here and so I took it and created with congress' permission intelligence branch. Hold on a second Did something very drastic just change at the power that the FBI has? Sounds like it to me. Holy crap! And he took the Director of Intelligence and put him under him? He... Talking about Clapper, what are we talking about?! I think what-I'm not sure exactly

1:00:38 Because if you look at the FBI's website, you still see this national security branch. They haven't updated the website of any of this. There is no new... I can't find any congressional record of his change. He says that he did it with permission from Congress. Yeah play it back again. And I don't know if, I don't think so. But does this mean that are they now a true competitor to the NSA? It certainly seems like their competitors to Department of Homeland Security. Well it seems like well you know one of the things we've done on this show is we've seen these little feuds develop within the government and their turf wars. And so NSA looks like it's been spying on the public, and well they're not supposed to be doing that but we should do it we want to do that anyway but with the administration let's love why don't WE DO IT! And here is that piece again... Taking it out from under the National Security Branch. Back it up back back back. Well I have taken

1:01:37 The intelligence directorate and taking it out from under the national security branch. The intelligence directorate? Directorate! He has taken the intelligence directorate, I presume from the FBI or from the national...I don't understand how this works. The moment i walked in the door looked at our organization chart I said that doesn't make sense to me Because if I'm trying to drive this integration, this way of thoughtfulness into everything we do... Ah. I get it. What's that doing sitting under the National Security Branch? Ah! I want it part of criminal. I want a part of cyber. I wanna part of everything we do here. Okay. But I think he has created his own intelligence branch is what he saying. His own little spy agency. Yeah but there some else going on here. Hmm. He talks about national security branch so he's talking about NSA

1:02:22 I'm not sure that's what I thought. I'm not sure. I totally convinced of it, and this is the reason. This happened a couple of times they've used NSA data to do criminal prosecutions of drug smuggling and some other things they've done this it's been repressed but as we discussed on the show has been done a couple of times where the NSA says oh no no this is just dark we don't do anything with his date until we find out a terrorist threat and then it turns out the FBI has scarf some of the data, and then they've tracked people down. And then they rebuilt the evidence backwards to make it look legit... Yeah, reverse engineering. ...and arrested people. So the FBI knows how valuable it is what the NSA has been doing for them and the FBI's always been I believe

CHAPTER 23 / 62 Discussion

Maureen Baginski, FBI Intelligence History

The history of the FBI's intelligence efforts is traced back to Maureen "Moe" Baginski, a former NSA official who served as the Bureau's intelligence czar in 2004. Baginski was tasked with overcoming interagency friction to establish a functional intelligence network. James Comey's current restructuring is seen as a revival of Baginski's earlier, largely unsuccessful attempts to modernize the Bureau's capabilities.

maureen baginski· fbi· nsa· intelligence czar· soviet expert

1:03:10 An extremely lazy organization that would just love to have everyone's phone tapped without a bunch of bullcrap having to go through the court systems and justify the tap and all these things you gotta do. It's a lot of work when you can just tap the phone, why can't we just tap the phone? Because we're trying to stop crime! So while I did not find the quote that i wanted which was that Apple is marketing goods to criminals. I did find this in this little speech he did. Or other places when someone says, isn't it terrible the government wants to break encryption on the internet? No it's not! No! This is good, it seems good for us. It's a very good thing. No it's not. He said twice, no it's not. This is the director of the FBI. No it's not, we should be breaking encryption with lawful authority

1:04:04 overseen by the third branch of government. I need to be able to do that if i show probable cause." By the way, the national security branch uh... The initials are NSB which is you know kind of what did the Nazis use as their stool pigeons. What? I know, he's a dick. He just kind of changes the topic. Let's go back to his NSA NSB thing And so i took it and created with congress' permission That's what I want to find. I want to find the text of what was permitted and what it means...I couldn't find it John! I just could not find it. Intelligence branch

1:05:06 We last had an intelligence branch when Moe Baginski was running it. Ah, Moe Baginski! What do we know about Moe Baginski? I don't... never heard of Moe Baginski. He sounds like a character on The Simpsons. Um and it may be fair to say that the Bureau wasn't ready for it then? Uh this sounds like a dark period in the FBI. Moe Baginski come on let's look at this hold on a second looking him up too mo baginsky mo bag I don't even know I'm just guessing mow begin ski It's just probably just exactly expelled to me with a wire and I bag in ski BAG Baggins key moment by boom you keep him Oh, baby is ready for it now the work that Moe did and lot of other people did has matured our host a woman Maureen yeah What didn't what did mo do no around town as Moe begins key Russian linguist Soviet expert?

1:05:56 I'll look at it and see what we can come up with. This entire donut hole and donut in a way that i think we're ready for that more donuts so i've asked eric velasvelar to be the first... I love Velesvala this is good, he's not actually going to do anything he's getting Eric Velasvalar, Velasvala, Velasbalazbala, Hezbollah, what his name? Oh this is funny some guy that he knows from somewhere else okay work that he can blame the fall guy. Eric Velezvalar to be the first of the modern era. Václav Valar, executive assistant director for intelligence and I told our work force... You're screwed, Václav Valar! There's another practical reason why i want to do that. I wanna stare at Eric Václav Valar every single morning in my table and say how is it going? How is the transformation going?

1:06:47 This is this guy's job. I want to sit at that table every morning and say, how is it going? How is the transformation going? I think of sometimes the combination of operations and intelligence as a bit like an arranged marriage In the FBI, I'm told some arranged marriages result in crowds of grandchildren and lifelong love What?! And others don't And so I want to know, how's the marriage? How is it in Omaha? How is it in San Antonio? How is it Miami? How are we driving to make it better? White man speaking metaphor. Tell me about Moe Baginski. Okay, Moe Marine Baginski was the FBI's vision lady in a New York News & World Report article in 2004. Let me just read you this and show what she is kind of like. Marine Baginski is leery of heights yet every morning just before dawn the Federal Bureau of Investigation's powerful intelligence czar...

1:07:39 wills herself to drive over a narrow shoulder of this two-lane bridge across the river, part of nearly two hour commute from her home in Virginia to FBI headquarters in Washington. When I cross it in the dark my legs start to get rubbery," says Baginski." Wow! Anyway this is kind of the beginning and then turns out that she was... she came over from NSA and what he's describing now is what she was trying to do then And her supporters say that if anyone can do it, it's like what she supposed to do. She's supposed to be the defeat interagency crapola and she was supposed to set up shop and some sort of intelligence network. And I can... It's a very long article, I'll read it after the show and figure out why this didn't work and why she got kicked out. Here is what I'm seeing. This is why I said there was a battle for control of the homeland and it is my possible belief

CHAPTER 24 / 62 Discussion

DHS Disarray, Interagency Turf Battles

The Department of Homeland Security is described as being in disarray following the departure of Janet Napolitano. With over 200,000 employees, the agency faces significant management challenges and internal friction. FBI Director James Comey addressed these "turf battles" using a football metaphor, urging agencies to "run great routes" and focus on excellence rather than jurisdictional disputes.

dhs· janet napolitano· tsa· jay johnson· turf wars

1:08:38 that Department of Homeland Security is so messed up. We know that Lucy Napolitano left and the whole place is in disarray, it's incredibly male unfriendly there's lots of verbal abuse sexual abuse from lesbians against men but there are all kinds and I'm sure if there's does all kinds of crap going on just look at the TSA There is all kinds of stuff that is wrong. This is a new department, it started after 9-11 and its huge! How many people work in the Department of Homeland Security? It's the biggest of all agencies Yeah but that's not what I asked No no I don't have the number on top my head Well you know what to do! It's 200 thousand...200 thousand people

1:09:30 Yeah, that's not easy hard to manage. Yeah And here is a little Q&A session afterwards and here the here He is answering an obvious question about the turf how you in this woman by the way who worked with him I mean she should have just put the knee pads on Oh when she was introducing him and doing the questions. Disgusting! ...act to ensure DHS can perform both its departmental and its national intelligence mission... On the intelligence front it's fabulous, thanks to relationships built by some people like John Cohen and having Frank there all of you know who worked in Washington

1:10:12 Structures matter, but the nature of the people occupying the structures matters even more. So we have knit together in a way that's very good on the intelligence front We bump into it they have a lot of responsibilities I have a lot of responsibilities we've bumped into each other and a lot of different areas that are primarily law enforcement related And as I've told my troops, I haven't no patience for turf battles I don't think the American people have patience for turf battles I sometimes hear folks say you know is this agency or that agency encroaching on our traditional And my reaction is, that reminds me of a wide receiver maybe from my hapless New York football giants saying the quarterback's not throwing to me enough. My response to that is run great routes get open and every time you touch the ball score touchdown! You will get the ball just be excellent I just really love that metaphor when a bunch of kooky agents running around trying to find stuff

CHAPTER 25 / 62 Discussion

Security vs Liberty, James Comey's Park Metaphor

James Comey rejected the idea of a trade-off between security and liberty, claiming that effective security actually enhances liberty. He used a metaphor of a city park occupied by "gangbangers" where the introduction of a police officer restores the liberty of children and grandparents. Critics describe this logic as Orwellian, suggesting it justifies an omnipresent police state.

james comey· liberty· security· orwellian· police state

1:11:08 I gotta be open, gotta get the ball. And that's my message to my folks, Be excellent! But on the intelligence front we're in a great place and any other bumps were working them out Oh yeah... I've known Jay Johnson since i was a baby federal prosecutor so we have made it our mission to try and knit us together. We are already at good place on intelligence, on cyber especially and all of our criminal responsibilities The horrors of Martha Stewart Then here is the final clip that I'll play of him. This really shows you how this guy thinks and I am very saddened to see that. Why did this not come up in his confirmation hearing? I reject the notion, the framework of trade-off right of balance between security and liberty. I reject that trade off because i believe the most effective security is that which enhances liberty. Oh let me just see if I understand this... How does that even work

1:12:10 Well, he has an example but good interesting thing to say. The most effective security gives you liberty that reminds me of Orwellian. Well you know what that reminds me of? I reject the notion the framework trade-off, right? Of balance between security and liberty. I reject that trade off because i believe the most effective security is that which enhances liberty. Let's get an example from him If I imagine in my mind's eye a city park where gangbangers are hanging out in a way that allows them to dominate the park but not allow children or grandparents

1:13:11 to use that park and the city responds by putting a police officer in that park? Liberty and security have both been enhanced. It's just that simple! That doesn't sound right... So if that's the answer to everything, we'll just put uh... We'll just put an armed person in there so that you know no one overstands it If grandpa gets too rowdy, well shoot him This cannot be this cannot be the way it's intended This cannot be right, John. This guy is frightening. Comey. The best security equals liberty. Please. No enhances. Enhances? Whatever!

1:14:03 That's a good one. Yeah, so we'll be on the lookout for this guy a little closer now yeah you know that he's the guy the big shot that went after Martha Stewart dangerous criminal who played play again society We got to lock her up they put her in jail too This guy is my hero That's right and so are you John C. Dvorak? So I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, JCD. Oh and in the morning to you uh... And in the morning to all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there! And in the morning to everyone in chat room noagendastream.com good to see y'all showing up once again In the morning to our artistes man we had some good art at last show um actually did we had way too much to pick from secret agent Paul

CHAPTER 26 / 62 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthood, Sir Terry of Mobile Bay

Terry Stelly of Mobile, Alabama, was knighted as "Sir Terry the Cheap Bastard of Mobile Bay" after a $1,000 donation. Stelly's note expressed a desire to rid himself of "douchebaggery" by fulfilling the value-for-value model. The segment also clarifies the origin of the "Adios Mofo" clip, attributing it to former Texas Governor Rick Perry following a tense interview.

knighthood· value-for-value· mobile alabama· rick perry· donation

1:14:57 The secret agent Paul has done a lot for this. He's had a number of album covers, I think three but he is also... I didn't know that! I don't remember ever seeing it. It was been awhile ago But he also was behind many...I mean I can't even mention how many of the jingles we use on this show that he has made. He came up with the dude named Ben that i just played for you? Yeah Also this new one That guy's got talent. Yeah, he should be doing jingles. I like that All right. Well we have a big surprise today. I have to say oh We have two instant nights Wow Okay now I want to talk to these guys where because these both these instant nights went into the old account so means there was a link and

1:15:54 out in the wild for knighthoods that sends it to the old account, which is what we... One of the accounts has been trying to phase out. So I'm looking at the numbers and I see this thing, the incident come through when I go back and look at the paper, I say, oh it's in the old account so I find the old accounts there are two of them in there! And they both came about the same time which is odd And one guy, listen they may even read their little notes here. First one is Terry Stelly of Mobile Alabama comes in and he has a note says I just donated $1,000 to become an instant night using Visa? I couldn't find a place to email my note thanks dear John and Adam I just can't take it anymore after listening to the heartbreaking dejection in Johns voice on the last show

1:16:49 I realize that the guilt that i feel for listening to the best podcast in the universe without fulfilling my part of the value-for-value model by not donating has risen to climactic proportions. Bingo! Boomshakalaka I realize today that i must rid myself of my douchebaggery if im ever to enjoy the no agenda show again. So please accept my instantite donation with my profoundest apologies from henceforward, I would like to be known- you have to write this down. Oh isn't that on the- Isn't it? No because he didn't get this note. Okay hold on where am I... Sir Terry The Cheap Bastard Of Mobile Bay! Uh okay hold on a second

1:17:31 We have Sir Terry the cheap bastard of Mobile Bay. Alright! I would also like to challenge my buddy John P from Lafayette who has failed the value for value model. Uh oh. Accordingly, please give him a douchebag Douchebag! And relay to him this challenge. Now, this is interesting because this is something that could possibly catch on if he recants from his douche bag ways and starts to donate I will match his donations dollar for dollar until he too becomes a knight of the no agenda roundtable with any luck this can

1:18:16 I like that. No agenda challenge will spread throughout Gitmo Nation so you guys can keep up the outstanding work That's an addition to the douchebag callout, that's cool And he wants a de-douching of little girl yay karma Oh okay see this is the part when i don't have the uh... When I don't have the notes I understand. It's a de-douching and LGY what else was there? Yeah, and a car of course obviously okay let's do that You've been de-douched You've got karma. Yes, I do want to remind everyone that is an LG why a little girl yay as I've been replying in email that people that was LG y this little girl yay That's what you just heard Just so you know I didn't know it from my guy What was it he asked? He asks where does the yeah, no sir don't have any handy

1:19:12 Guy asks, where did you get? He says who is that what movies had from the adios mofo Is that any name a bunch of actors is that the Clooney or who's saying that I said this been we've been playing Adios Mofo for so long that I think people forgot or newcomers definitely do not know where that comes from. Adios Mofo When Rick Perry This is many years ago after a TV interview He was pissed off at the interviewer and he said adios mofo. And of course they recorded that, and that's where it's from. Yeah? Okay so... Cool well thank you very much sir Terry will be knighting you later We have to figure some way to monitor that

CHAPTER 27 / 62 Discussion

Sir Kurt of Team Winky, Job Karma Requests

Kurt Winkler of Townsville, Queensland, was knighted as "Sir Kurt of Team Winky" following his contribution. He requested "job karma" and "F cancer" wishes for his father. The segment also acknowledges Sir Don Tomaso DiToronto for his $656 donation, joining the "656 Club" with a palindromic contribution.

queensland· australia· job karma· f cancer· donation

1:20:00 Please make sure that yeah, I don't know. That's what I'm saying we have to figure out some way all right It's all write a script for that right once you write some JavaScript for us Kurt Winkle my muller and Townsville Queensland Australia Also known known as team winkie hi Jens just got around extracting my digit and giving the best podcast in the universe it's do oh I'm doing so, however. I mis-personalized note portion of the page. I think that the old... Maybe it doesn't have the note capability? It doesn't have a little note thing. We gotta find out where this link is so we can change it. So we have to swat and change it so it goes to the right location. Swat it!

1:20:38 So I just want to thank you both for your courage and hours of entertainment you provide to all us astute enough to listen regularly. And I agree with that analysis, please if this note finds you before the show could i be knighted and you need your pen again? Oh boy okay Sir Kurt of Team Winky Kurt of team winky W I n K ie no w a i n k y oh okay of Team winky I am presently battling with the boards of unemployed running around the lucky country of get-go down under. I would greatly appreciate some job karma and some F cancer for his dad who was in a battle of a different kind. Keep it up, boys! You're truly making a difference and that my friends is something very special in this world. Cheers Kurt! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:21:40 You've got karma Well, that is very nice to instant nights. Thank you very much Terry and curtain I look forward to these To the ceremonies later. This would be great Yeah, no I was impressed. Fabulous! Meanwhile we don't have any slouches here with Don Sir Don Tomaso DiToronto coming in with $656 Hey he'll be the club member He is the 656 Club Member couldn't pass up a palindrome he says I love me some palindrome Here's my palindrome for 6560 Some Karma For The Free Loaders You got it! You've got karma

CHAPTER 28 / 62 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Palindromes and Beheading Videos

Several high-level donors are recognized, including Sir David Foley and Nicholas Ramondi. Ramondi's note mentioned a disturbing beheading video involving a machete, which he forwarded for analysis. The hosts discuss the various numerical sequences and palindromes favored by the "Gitmo Nation" producers during the donation process.

executive producer· las vegas· beheading video· palindromes· donation

1:22:26 We have a couple donations of one of my favorite numbers starting with sir David Foley. Oh, yeah I'm sorry can't just do that. It was remiss Yeah, because I had this whole thing all all set up here Ladies and gentlemen, this contest is scheduled for one fall. Making his way to the ring weighing 333 pounds he's LeBron Duke of Gettin' All USA! Sir David Bully! I don't think he's really 333 pounds No, no he is not close to that...I mean..not close

1:23:10 I'm sorry. I'm just typing something in that's okay, okay? But he does come in with one of our favorite to sequence sequential donations five six seven one of my all-time favorite numbers ITM and John and Adam it closed find one of Johns favorite donations Thank you for your courage and continuing to deliver the news and analysis sans the typical media goo Please send some wonderful no agenda karma as I prepare for a big trade show coming this week. Yeah, he's in Vegas and I hooked him up with our producers there with our dame there. Oh yeah? Of course man these are important we gotta get these people hanging together. You've got karma. It was all part of the global intelligence network you bet! All right next we have is curiously a second

1:23:56 They had absolute second, you know. Favorite sequence? Sequence 34567 from Nicholas Ramondi and in Fremont over here I can see it from here actually and he did send a note in which I just had to look up which I was doing thanks for the show today listening to it now somehow I missed the special directions to add in the comment with my donation submitted a donation of three four five blah blah I miss getting in time for today's show, which i guess was Thursday. It would have been the top donation! Could you please add a comment about how you got me to start listening to the show when announcing this donation? How did I get him... I don't know Does he tell ya? No it doesn't Please also label my donations from Nick and Fremont Okay Nick and Fremont I came across a beheading video today that was quite disturbing

1:24:51 The one discussed on the show, I was finally using a machete. I'll look forward to you in a moment if you could also send it to Adam." Oh okay we'll send it...I think we've looked at that one. The machete one which is the way real beheading which is gruesome but not really very pleasant and her head is gone Yeah, there you have it. And I do not see where how he had started listening to the show. He has two notes sent in a duplicate. Okay? All right anyway that's 34567 from Fremont Nick from Fremont Richard Ryle whoops what am i doing here yeah Richard Riley in Loomis California at 33340 and I think I'm gonna have to look him up I'm sure there's a r-i-l-e-y

1:25:42 Was this a check that came in or no? How come these notes are not in the spreadsheet. I mean, I don't want to complain or anything but Because he didn't put a note in the oh okay so it came and separate they're not there. Oh All Eric does is just download it There's nothing there, he can't do anything about it. Right but then they're sending these things to you? They're sending these notes... Yeah they should be sending it everyone! To me yeah if you want something done send that to me. You know I yeah all right well I can't find Richard Riley's note there's no R-I-L-E I'll figure it out before they we will get it before the end of this show sure Tyler O'Brien two three four five six another favorite

CHAPTER 29 / 62 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Tongue Clicking and Final Donor Credits

Producer Brian Hall provided feedback regarding "tongue clicking" noises on the program, which he finds distracting. Other donors, including Sir Don Cool and Tim Nonomous, are thanked for their support. The segment concludes the primary donation honors for episode 656, emphasizing the importance of the value-for-value model in financing the show's independent analysis.

tongue clicking· brian hall· sir don cool· executive producer· donation

1:26:22 uh... in boca rata on two three four five six we're getting thematic here from tyler o'brien lister since episode one also daily so source code listener before that Just sending a little value for value your way even though the media we producers get from your podcast outweighs any monetary amount. This is a small thank you and another step on my journey to knighthood, yay! Can I get a little girl boom shakalaka de-douching for my beautiful girlfriend and myself? Do not read on show the rest of this. You've been de-douche'd. Hey! Yeah, this is where I would be with a prompter too. What? Do not read on show. Do not read on show. John L. Dvorak Okay now... okay now we have the issue with the notes here. Brian S. Sirloon. Yeah, you know what, listen and this is uh

1:27:20 uh... soon luke arkabob bark fudge fountain in and arbor michigan also known as brian hall two three four five six another one of my love he said a nice noted with the uh... with these ceiling wax on the note from his knighthood uh... ring yes it is always rain very interesting to run into their own in the morning please find a v for me value for value exactly I request the tricky and possibly lame, Putin-Hitler-Obama and a dedouching

1:28:04 For my last donations was before the club 33 apocalypse. He thinks so he feels he's behind So it needs those three things plus the de-douching in lieu of car No, he doesn't want karma in lieu of karma I'd like to register a gripe Oh Inspired by your diligent war on weird linguistic quality control It is tongue clicking it bugs me when I do it just as much as when I hear others Do it Adam seems to be a bit clickier than you John But then his signal offer often has the benefit of a couple more dog biscuits. So you got yourself turned up to laugh. I'm tongue clicking? Maybe it's the Tourette's, you'll have to... You know what thanks now i'm going to be clicking my tongue and now the Tourette's is kicking in thanks

1:28:55 Shout out to Morgan and Anta, and not Morgan of the Reflective Air podcast. Sometimes I think of it as No Agenda's eccentric British nephew which shows considerable promise. Thanks to Adam for his gracious handling of my sporadic and mostly ill-conceived emails. And thanks for the both of you for what I consider the no agenda secret clubhouse, I guess it is. Anyway he goes on and I feel many of us who haven't discovered no agenda would be listening to slack-jawed Terry Gross babbling about mad men. Are you ready? Yeah hit it.

1:29:41 You've got karma. It's interesting, I like that one. Yeah it is kind of interesting. That worked. Sorry I couldn't really read...I don't know why I was having trouble reading this dark in here and then we have Timnonymous oh i'm sorry did I skip somebody? yeah I did Sir Don Cool uh in Wyndham New Hampshire 21012 This donation is for Adam Disregard that asshole Dutch media bullshit! I must say Mickey is hot This is about the newsletter. Adam, give me your favorite combo! Love you guys! Sir Don... Thank you sir Don We are here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon. Thank You sir I appreciate that Tim Nonomous sent in a check from Worcester Massachusetts Massachusett nuts

1:30:31 $200 and he's our last associate executive producer for show 656. He sends a check says Tim anonymous It's just paper it's mailed in no note He just wants to send us the money perfect No comment well We thank all of these executive producers and associated executive producers for coming through doing their job This is how the show works yes financing the show Okay, and we'll do another one on Thursday So we do need the support to continue so it can continue To do this kind of analysis for you a lot of stuff coming up on today's show obviously and please go to to Oreck.org Slash N A Always try to do your best be out there propagate the formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth What are you doing?

CHAPTER 30 / 62 Discussion

Sarah Palin, Value Voters Summit Appearance

Sarah Palin appeared at the Value Voters Summit, delivering a speech that observers described as "Alex Jones-y" and potentially influenced by substances. The audio quality of her recent TV appearances is criticized for poor miking, sounding as if recorded in a hangar. A comparison is made between her current off-the-cuff style and her previous persona during the 2008 McCain campaign.

sarah palin· value voters summit· alex jones· rand paul· miking

1:31:33 Boy oh boy. Oh boy Okay, yeah I was always a big well. I wouldn't say I Defended Sarah Palin a lot You did? You read her material, you thought highly of her. I read her book when it was like oh I can't read this book! She's a moron and I'll read your book but it wasn't all that bad. I don't know if she wrote or didn't really matter Who knows who wrote it...I think we know there was somebody that has been identified Ever since Good book Ever since Oh there is it That's the tongue clacking okay I get it You just did it Yeah I'll try to stop that Okay Ever since

1:32:20 She's had some TV show which looks like she or sounds like she is recording it in a hangar. And you've seen this right? It is the worst micing ever! I do not get the miking. It makes no sense to me. Here's how it works, you get a sound engineer and he comes and goes okay anybody got a bucket? Okay now put that mic in there and pick up the whole room. It baffles me but something has changed with her from...this is not the same Sarah Palin who was in when she was running on the ticket with McCain and the way she, but still has that kind of, she wants to do that cutesy thing. But somehow she's moved into this it's almost a little bit of an Alex Jonesy thing in there. There's you know, there's terms certain terms and she's doing a lot off-the-cuff I think she'd she may be high

1:33:18 Or maybe she's drinking. I don't know, everything feels very strange about how she is speaking and how she is addressing people... Value Voters Summit, which I have no idea what that is. The value voters summit...I almost had a clip from it because... I have a clip here Well did you get the clip? Yeah! I got the clip. I'm gonna play the clip of Rand Paul No i'm going to play the Sarah Palin clip. I never heard the Sarah Palin clip. I was just saying You'll like it. That's a clip of Rand Paul where he said that.. I'll get the clip because it's like the dumbest thing I've ever heard go on well so anyways It's a Christian meetup

CHAPTER 31 / 62 Discussion

Sarah Palin Address Error, White House Location

During her Value Voters Summit speech, Sarah Palin incorrectly identified the address of the White House as 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue instead of 1600. She also spoke about "reloading with truth" and criticized the use of the "race card" against conservatives like Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. While her "screechy" voice is noted as a point of public irritation, the hosts reject labeling her as "dumb," suggesting other factors for her recent performance.

sarah palin· white house· pennsylvania avenue· racism· misogyny

1:34:01 And here she is and this was just it's so this is she must be high, drunk or something else is very wrong with this woman. Pulling the race card how much longer do you think they're gonna oh it's just a It's not even smart. One simply wants our government to live within its means and to not tax us beyond death, not mortgage our kids' future for todays selfish wants. Because of that we're racist?

1:34:39 What is it smart? Wait for it. Is when they try to slap that on Colonel Allen West and Dr Ben Carson and JC Watts and Raphael and Ted Cruz, and my husband Todd Palin yeah no those truly prejudiced folks just remember this that they scream racism our way just to end debate well don't retreat you reload with truth Which I know is an endangered species at 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue anyway, truth. Okay now...I don't understand how that happens? What? The White House is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Okay She says 1400 Yes she did That can only happen if you're high How can this mistake be made from someone who ran on the ticket? How can you- I do not understand how that happens

1:35:44 She could be drunk. It sounds like from the beginning she was slurring a little bit and then she pulled herself together, which I would credit... give her some points for that. Because you go, the way I see it, it's possible But you know, the thing that bothers me about her the most to this day is that screechy... She has a screechy annoying voice and it just grates on you. I think that really had a huge impact on the response to her. Sure. Yeah some people have been gone like perhaps people who went to a lot of metal concerts

1:36:27 They're deaf and yeah, they can't maybe you can't hear those high notes But generally speaking I think normal ears that haven't been damaged by rock concerts Yeah would be could agree the greats on people. There's something something is like very wrong with it And she says things like oh the lame stream media You know that We don't even do that. You know, the lame stream media? It's stupid! It's a short dumb thing... But I've never found this woman to be dumb. I've never labeled her as dumb and i find that horribly misogynistic of anyone who has done that in the past and I'm calling some other things some chemical dependency or some brain there something is wrong with her she needs help

CHAPTER 32 / 62 Discussion

Obama Podcast, American Leadership and ISIL

President Obama released a weekly address framed as a podcast, asserting that "American leadership is the one constant in an uncertain world." He detailed the mobilization of a broad coalition, including Arab nations, to destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL. The address emphasized that the U.S. began airstrikes in Syria because no other nation had the "balls" to act against the regime-backed territory.

barack obama· isil· syria· coalition· american leadership

1:37:18 It's different than saying, you're just stupid. Maybe she likes to drink. Hey I tried it and it didn't work out for me but... No well you can't drink anyways. No good. Terrible. I'm a horrible drinker! No two glasses of no glass and half of wine done And the guy is like 6'3". 517 to be precise So right now we've as we've already discussed the president is in kill mode which is fabulously interesting. A lot of... non-sequitur, really not even information being bandied about that is just telling us nothing. Really gives us no information at all about what is happening with this coalition... I hear a lot of course I read a lot of foreign publications and the Dutch are very proud of these six F16's they're sending.

1:38:23 That is so sad. The Belgians are sending some stuff, Denmark is sending F-16's... Waffles! Yeah, they're sending waffles. Well you know what we always say about the Belgian Air Force? you know, it didn't take off because they ran out of coal. That's just that's what the Dutch say this racist against the poor Belgians but then our president he did his little podcast there and holy crapola man the only thing that was missing was our dressing of the programming! You know they don't do this right

1:39:00 You know, if you do a show, you know it's like we got our stuff. Yeah, we always gonna be like hey Now you're ready for a show He just says hi everybody no No that doesn't work. You gotta start your shit here Here's how he starts Hi everybody And of course what he's about to say is phenomenal please listen to what the president has to say American leadership is the one constant in an uncertain world. Just so you know, hello world! I just want you all to listen up for a moment... We're the boss.

1:39:42 That was true this week. It was true this week? Oh! We mobilized the world to confront some of our most urgent challenges. We mobilize the world... Hello, World! Time to mobilize because we say so I apologize World for the arrogance that you are now being... that is not being spewed upon you America's leading the world in the fight to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL The terrorist group known as ISIL what is this Prince So soon it will be the terrorist group formerly known as ISIL. You watch, you can just mark it on your calendar this is going to happen and when he does this pointy thing with both his hands known as ISIL I'm doing it now but you can't see it but you point your fingers go doom doom doom Known as ISIL Thank you President

1:40:31 On Monday, our brave men and women in uniform began airstrikes against ISIL targets in Syria. Notice that our brave men and women did that because no other country has the balls to bomb Syria! They know what's gonna happen they know who's behind this Iran Russia No one is doing it we're doing that no one else is doing that And they weren't alone I made it clear America would act as part of a broad coalition And we were joined in this action by friends and partners, including Arab nations. Let's not specify who

CHAPTER 33 / 62 Discussion

UN Address, Ebola and Climate Change

At the United Nations, President Obama rallied global support against Russian aggression in Ukraine and the Ebola epidemic in West Africa. He repeatedly used the meme "the right side of history" to frame his agenda. The President also committed the U.S. to leading the fight against climate change, claiming that the world looks to America for rescue missions in times of global threat.

united nations· ebola· climate change· ukraine· right side of history

1:41:07 At the United Nations in New York, I worked to build more support for this coalition. He's so awesome! To cut off terrorist financing and to stop the flow of foreign fighters into and out of that region. And in my address to the UN, I challenged the world especially Muslim communities to reject the ideology of violent extremism." This is very again...this is what we identified as very troubling Really connecting this to Muslim, Islam. Very very troubling And to do more to tap the extraordinary potential of their young people America is leading the effort to rally the world against Russian aggression in Ukraine We rock! And notice we're putting Russia right up there with ISIL

1:41:50 It's not a mistake. Along with our allies, we will support the people of Ukraine as they develop their democracy and economy And this week I called upon even more nations to join us on the right side of history Oh yeah that's interesting We just heard that meme about Holder America is leading the fight to contain and combat the Ebola epidemic in West Africa Stop for a second The right...we have to start watching this now. The right side of history is obviously a meme. Well, they've been going on for awhile. Yeah I know it's been going on for a long time but we've never commented on it and it's used- Yeah we have! We have. Well, it's used as a differentiator for an agenda. If you're on this side of the agenda as opposed to the other side whatever it is, you are on the right side. It says who? I think Hillary Clinton started this, the Right Side Of History business.

1:42:43 It would sound like her. But I just want you to know... Sorry, you can go on. I just want people to know if you are from a different country other than America and you see me, I want you to get on your knees and thank me. Yeah! Kiss my ring. Kiss your ring? Do you have a ring? Yes, it's a big knight ring because we when you're in shit you call us. Support the people of Ukraine as they develop their democracy and economy And this week, I called upon even more nations to join us on the right side of history. America's leading the fight to contain and combat the Ebola epidemic in West Africa. We kick ass! We are so cool. We're deploying our doctors and scientists supported by our military to help corral the outbreak and pursue new treatments from the United Kingdom and Germany to France and Senegal other nations are stepping up their efforts too

1:43:37 sending money, supplies and personnel. And we will continue to rally other countries to join us in making concrete commitments to fight this disease and enhance global health security for the long term America is engaging more partners and allies to confront the growing threat of climate change before it's too late My goodness! Is there no end to how awesome we are? There's just no end This world would be dead Without us. Did you get by the way yesterday is it to interrupt because he mentioned Ebola? You find it peculiar I got a whole bunch of Ebola we've had oh, yeah a bunch of Ebola stuff Let don't don't distract me from that. Okay, go to Ebola in a minute. We're doing our part and helping developing nations do theirs

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Climate Assistance, Global Rescue Missions

President Obama introduced the concept of "climate assistance," noting that U.S. efforts now reach over 120 nations. He urged all nations to join the effort "before it's too late," a phrase noted for its frequent use in environmental rhetoric. The address concluded with a message that the world calls on America whenever it is threatened, a sentiment critics find embarrassing and abhorrent.

climate assistance· carbon pollution· global health· barack obama· propaganda

1:44:20 At home we've invested in clean energy, cut carbon pollution and created new jobs in the process. I think we have it. Hold on, he said something very funny here. Roll it back for a second. We're doing our part to help developing nations do theirs. Oh, it's back a little further... Here is it. America is engaging more partners and allies to confront the growing threat of climate change before its too late Did you hear that? No, it's too late. Oh yeah no before it's too late It's always before it's too late this forever before it's too late But I don't know if it's an ad lib because he sticks it in there you know in a very strange cadence and play it again Before it's too late No, it's on this prompter

1:45:01 America's engaging more partners and allies to confront the growing threat of climate change before it's too late. I'm afraid, when is it too late? No, it was in there. I don't want to be too late We're doing our part and helping developing nations do theirs At home, we've invested in clean energy cut carbon pollution and created new jobs in the process. But you better watch out! Abroad our climate assistance now reaches more than 120 nations A climate assistance? What is that?! Hello I'm from the United States of America Climate Assistance Agency I'd like to offer some assistance. And on Tuesday, I called on every nation developed and developing alike to join us in this effort for the sake of future generations. Yes! Children The people of the world look to us to lead and we welcome that responsibility We are heirs to a proud legacy of freedom

1:45:53 And as we showed the world this week, we are prepared to do what is necessary... ...to secure that legacy for generations to come. Yes! YES!! Thanks and have a great weekend. If there's a need for rescue mission when the world is threatened The world needs help It calls on America. And that's the story You may kiss my ring We are the best! That seems very harsh on Obama Well I'm sorry it's-it is Embarrassing. It is just embarrassing! I find it abhorrent. Yeah, well you apparently do. Alright, Ebola go. No no wow don't you want to do caliphate? You wanna do Ebola? Oh if we're gonna do a caliphate... Let's do... Unless you wanna do ebola. Uh no i want to do caliphate. I have to uh... Well you can't do caliphate without uh...

CHAPTER 35 / 62 Discussion

UK House of Commons, ISIL Military Debate

The UK House of Commons held a raucous debate regarding military intervention against ISIL. Prime Minister David Cameron and Labour leader Ed Miliband supported the motion, arguing it was necessary to protect democratic states. Critics in the House questioned the long-term implications of embarking on another conflict in the Middle East following previous failures in Libya and Afghanistan.

house of commons· david cameron· ed miliband· iraq· isil

1:46:55 There we go, I'm ready. Alright, I'm good to go. First of all, we have...I watched some of the House of Commons and there's 40 people that said no to this crazy Cameron although Ed Miliband is all in. I do have a little Ed Miliband just going all in with the let's-go get'em The order governed by rules, if it is about anything must be about protecting a democratic state which is what this motion before us is about. I believe although this is difficult it is the right thing to do. Is the Democratic state, is that serious? The Democratic state was beyond me. Okay well maybe they're... I don't know what they're up to here is a House of Commons complainer trying to make a point and just basically being shouted down. ISIS indeed are made up of murderous psychopaths that's not the issue we know that Iraqis

1:47:57 Afghanistan, a misgovernment Libya. None of the success stories are we going to embark on action that could last for years? The fact is this is about psychopathic terrorists that are trying to kill us and we do have to realize that whether we like it or not they have already declared war on us there isn't a walk-on by option there isn't an option of just hoping this will go away I saw this too. I saw all of this, I love this! It's so much more interesting than our phony baloney everyone is so correct and quiet. My colleague who i love. Oh, I love it when they just... angry and stuff. They're a little more raucous that for sure the Canadian ones are worse. I wish we had somebody televise that down here

1:48:44 I'm watching this stuff and they're talking about how are these, you know... They're doing the whole scary, scary thing about the number of foreign troops. And is it? I can't tell by the way is it total ISIS contingent 30 thousand 32 thousand Is it 33 thousand? Did you see George Galloway No, you got George Galloway clip. Oh my goodness while I was keeping this and yeah Okay, play ya know I'm oh, yes like I don't have a clip of it but play it's long so interrupt when you want but the And he's a backbencher now III maybe he's always been in the back bench or I don't know But he's weighing the back

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George Galloway, Imaginary Armies and Iraqi Politics

Member of Parliament George Galloway delivered a scathing critique of the war effort, calling the Free Syrian Army a "fiction" and ISIL an "imaginary army." He argued that ISIL's success is due to the local population's lack of confidence in the sectarian government in Baghdad. Galloway asserted that aerial bombardment would not solve a problem rooted in the "deliberate sectarianization" of Iraqi politics by occupation authorities.

george galloway· free syrian army· mosul· baghdad· sectarianism

1:49:22 And this guy is surprisingly good. This debate has been characterized by members of parliament moving around imaginary armies The Free Syrian Army is a fiction which has been in the receipt of hundreds of millions of dollars, huge hundreds of tons of weapons virtually all of which were taken from them by Al-Qaeda which has now mutated into ISIL. The Iraqi army is the most expensively trained and most modernly equipped army in history. And which I saw them in 2004 when I was in Iraq, Ben it was like dad's army with complete crap this training they received. Hundreds hundreds of billions of dollars have been expended on the Iraqi Army which ran away leaving its equipment behind it

1:50:22 ISIL itself is an imaginary army. Former defense secretary no less said we must bomb their bases! See, I think you'd like this because you're of the same opinion this is such bullcrap where's their Navy? Where are their ships? They don't have any bases The territory they control is the size of Britain and yet there's only between 10,000 and 20,000 of them. Do the maths! See? I love this. You're someone talking sense. They don't concentrate as an army. They don't live in bases

1:51:01 And the only way a force of that size could successfully hold the territory that they hold is if they have a population which is acting as the water in which they are swimming. That population is quiescent because of Western policies and Western invasion and occupation, that's the truth of the matter ISIL could not survive for five minutes if the tribes in the west of Iraq rose up against them. I, yes i will. Now this is cool because now people are going to start interrupting them because oh my god you're not on board with the program Galloway what's wrong with you? How appalled people will be to hear him say that women buried alive women buried alive women enslaved and we ask them to no persecution by these people! What a total disgrace

1:51:58 Total disgrace! Women buried alive. This is a new one by the way, I hadn't heard women and children buried alive either. I like it it's a good one. They don't like to up them Mr Speaker they'd rather have an imaginary debate moving around in imaginary armies ISIL is a death cult It's a gang of terrorist murderers. It is not an army and it certainly is not an army that will be destroyed by aerial bombardment ISIL is able to rule the parts of Iraq that it does because nobody in those parts has any confidence in the government in Baghdad A sectarian government helped into power, by Bremer

1:52:48 and the deliberate sectarianization of Iraqi politics by the occupation authorities. The government knows that, that's why they pushed al-Maliki out! This guy is good I'll give him that Even though he won the election if we're talking about democracy They pushed him out because they knew that far too many people in ISIL-occupied Iraq had no confidence in the government of Baghdad. Nobody has any confidence in the army emanating out of Baghdad, so this will not be solved by bombing

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Historical Bombing of Iraq, George Galloway vs Jackie Smith

George Galloway reminded the House of Commons that Britain has been bombing Iraq for a hundred years, including the use of chemical weapons in the 1920s. He engaged in a heated exchange with former Home Secretary Jackie Smith, accusing her of having the "brass neck" to urge another war after the deaths of a million Iraqis. Galloway proposed strengthening the Peshmerga and regional powers like Iran and Turkey instead of Western intervention.

george galloway· jackie smith· chemical weapons· saddam hussein· peshmerga

1:53:31 Mr Speaker, we've been bombing Iraqis for a hundred years. A hundred years! We dropped the world's first chemical bombs on them in the 1920s. We attacked them and helped to kill their king in the 1930s. We helped them...we helped the murder of their president in 1963 helping the Ba'ath party into power We bombed them again through the 90s. Yes, but that's that all falls under protecting the world Mr. Galloway. Mr. Galloway is off he's gone off the rails. He goes on. You have to remember when they when Saddam invaded Kuwait and then we took him out or George Bush thing there was lots of evidence at our State Department gave him the go-ahead to do that? Sure sure

1:54:27 I'll look it up. Yeah, she must have been involved with war somehow. Yeah, I remember. And yeah you remember her that she was always sitting next to the Prime Minister so she was up there You have it yet? I'm stalling. Jackie Smith British Labour Party She's the member of Parliament. Was she Secretary of Defence? I don't see... Home secretary Well yes a home secretary Yeah That's not Secretary of Defence No but she was in charge of home It would this kind like the Secretary State

1:55:23 I think. million of us on the streets of London told you so at the time and for you now to try and wash your hands of your share of the responsibility. I'm afraid that's a spot that will not out. All the perfumes of Arabia, Jackie will not expunge that spot. And all of your poetry George doesn't prevent people from being murdered and massacred in Iraq and Syria at the moment. I am NOT washing my hands what happened in the past. You killed a million people in Iraq. That is separate!

1:56:07 people in Iraq. It's incredible that you have the brass neck to be sitting here now urging another Iraq war after what we've already done. George, if I was still in Parliament I would be there tomorrow living up to my responsibility to answer the call of the Iraqi government and people to help support them and the fact that you aren't is something that you will have to live with Let me ask a final question to you George If not bombing, if not intervention how do we deal with this cancer? Give Iraq the weapons that it's already paid for but haven't been delivered. Strengthen the Peshmerga strengthen the governments of Iraq and Syria and ask Saudi Arabia Turkey and Iran to fight this battle It is their battle not ours

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Abrams Tanks in Syria, Targeting US Equipment

Reports from Russian media suggest that U.S. airstrikes in Syria are specifically targeting American-made Abrams tanks that fell into the hands of ISIS. The presence of these tanks with terrorist groups is described as "bad optics" for the United States. Speculation continues that the broader air campaign is a smokescreen intended to eventually facilitate the removal of President Bashar al-Assad.

abrams tanks· syria· isis· russia· bashar al-assad

1:56:52 What is this...he mentioned that in his parliament thing as well. What is this Iraq paid for some weapons but we haven't delivered? I didn't know anything about this. Yeah, honestly- I know one thing that's picked up from RT is that a lot of the bombing, I believe a lot of the bombing in Syria besides somebody said it's really just to go on there and still get Assad out but they seem to be targeting a slew of Abrams tanks This is according to the Russians. And I think that these Abrams tanks, which we obviously shipped over there and I guess there's some in Iraq too... There's an embarrassment because these guys are-and i'm sure they can't use the full uh... I'm sure they're not trained enough to be able to use the tank

1:57:41 you know, best abilities and things that kick ass product. But we got to get these tanks out of there because it's a humiliation that ISIS would have American tanks because it looks too obvious. It doesn't look too good does it? No no as we say its bad optics John So they're in there bombing these tanks, which I guess we gave to the Free Syria...gave to somebody that these guys ended up with them. And then I'm still pretty convinced that this is all just a smokescreen to get rid of Assad. Oh yeah! No doubt about that. That seems to be pretty much our goal now. The thing you pointed out earlier which kind of concerns me is the missing McCain.

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CBS News, Holly Williams and Border Smuggling

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reported from the Turkish-Syrian border, focusing on the influx of foreign fighters joining ISIS. The report featured an interview with a masked smuggler who claimed to have helped dozens of fighters, including one from London, cross the border. Critics questioned the authenticity of the report, noting the correspondent's attire and the desert background's similarity to green-screen setups.

cbs news· holly williams· turkey· syria· smuggling

1:58:21 Anyway, I was watching CBS News and they've got this new woman who's taken over from Lara Logan who has been sent out to pasture. We'll never see her again for at least two or three years...again! This is Holly Williams, and again it's another British girl that's kind of pretty and has to be kinda sexy because she's out there in the foreign areas. She's on the border supposedly I don't believe this by the way First they show her and she standing out with a desert background It looked just like the same green screen they use for The Beheadings And you stand in their yakina where she's wearing a tight-fitting black blouse

1:59:08 some kind of modern looking slacks, slacks means in the Middle East. Slacks that are...that actually accentuate when she turns around and we get to see her butt. So she's doing a stand up blah, blah, blah. And then they show a second shot of her walking towards a village in the middle of nowhere. A buttshot. And it's a buttshot! She has got a calipigious butt. Excellent And so she's walking and walking, and I'm thinking are you kidding me? Is it this is anybody gonna believe that a woman in the notion out wearing a head thing. I mean most of these women at least fake it they put their head stuff on they wear a flousy dress and they don't wear tight fitting not tight enough fitting but

1:59:58 accentuating pants and no headgear, big blonde hair. And where is she supposed to be? She's supposed to be on the Syrian-Turkey border where the Kurds are going back you know escaping this doesn't sound right it doesn't sound right so she's gonna interview a guy who is a in this clip she's an interview a guy who is a smuggler which end the war on ISIS today, Britain Denmark and Belgium agreed to join the US air campaign. Airstrikes hit tanks and checkpoints in Syria today and by one estimate ISIS still has more than 30 thousand fighters in Syria and Iraq many of them from the West or from Afghanistan and Pakistan so how did they get there? Holly Williams reports from the Turkish border

2:00:47 Turkey's frontier with Syria is mountainous and 500 miles long. The entry point for thousands of foreign fighters who have come here to join ISIS. For decades, Turkey's border with Syria has been notorious for smuggling but now now along with the contraband smugglers are spiriting people into the war zone. In one village we met a man who refused to show his face, but told us he made a living getting people in and out of Syria illegally. All together how many foreign fighters did you help across the border?

2:01:29 20 or 25 from Chechnya and Indonesia, he told us. And one man who came here from London. Europe's counter-terrorism chief says a thousand Europeans have joined extremist groups in Syria and Iraq in the last three months alone Alone. Alone! Yeah, and the fear porn is just every everywhere. Australia it's really rampant the UK here in the United States they're telling military personnel families of military personnel you know they're gonna come up to your house and if your family of military

CHAPTER 40 / 62 Discussion

Vice News, Canadian ISIL Fighter Skype Interview

Vice News aired a Skype interview between a reporter in New York and a purported Canadian ISIL fighter in Mosul. The fighter claimed he was radicalized simply by reading the Quran and was interviewed by Canadian intelligence (CSIS) just days before leaving the country. The segment highlights the ease with which such interviews can be faked and the specific messaging regarding the incompetence of Western intelligence agencies.

vice news· skype· mosul· csis· foreign fighters

2:02:11 military personnel, we're gonna kill you. You want to cut your head off and of course we had the... well get to that in a moment. The incident? The incident yeah there's so when you question this report which could easily be done in New Mexico or wherever it is. I'm with you on this, my brother because... and I used to even call myself out as, you know, Kareena you're really thinking crazy about stuff but i put nothing past that anymore nothing. No and then this woman-I'm telling you cannot be wandering around with those tight fitting pants man have nice butt

2:02:55 and no head garb. So we have Vice... Why would you do that? Especially if this is an area where the ISIS guys are going floating around, those guys are supposedly very strict they wouldn't just shoot her! So vice pops up, the TV channel They always have these very coincidental things It's always good, they always have the shot They've got the crazies spinning donuts in their tanks They got all kinds of stuff And now there's a guy in New York who looks like he should be in the rockabilly band and he is interviewing a Canadian ISIL fighter, uh, who was in Mosul via Skype. And I just had to pull it because I think this has... It's obvious very easy to fake this. This is no proof of anything. Um, but the messaging is all there. It's everything you want to have. Hello?

2:03:53 So, where are you right now? We're in New York. And you're in Mosul? Yes yes I am. The whole set up is through social media accounts we were able to setup this Skype call really How long have you been in Mosul? About a month A month? I was on bar before that. How did you get recruited to go fight in Syria and Iraq No one recruited me. Actually, no one spoke a single word to me. All I did was open the newspaper and read the Quran very easily. And someone actually came up to me 5 or 6 days before I left

2:04:35 So you're saying that he was interviewed by the Canadian police five or six days before he left. Yeah, and this is the truth. All of their intelligence workers are imbeciles—FBI. So the Canadian police— No, CSIS. CSIS? Yeah. So CSIS interviewed you about going to Syria being a terrorist. You said no I'm not. I can't believe how someone that has extremist terrorist ideologies would say something like I mean, this is really what you... This is what are you gonna say? I can't believe that someone with terrorist ideologies was not stopped by the police and the FBI. They're morons! They're idiots! Okay. How many foreign fighters are in Iraq right now? Stop stop. I've noticed this before and this is a tell

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Passport Destruction, ISIL Threats to New York

The Canadian ISIL fighter interviewed by Vice News claimed that thousands of foreign recruits are mobilizing for a "brilliant attack" in New York. The fighter was shown ripping up his passport, an act described by analysts as a "phony" propaganda trope since real terrorists value Western travel documents. The messaging emphasizes a desire for Sharia law and warns the West to "leave us alone" or face martyrdom operations.

passport· new york· sharia law· martyrdom· propaganda

2:05:28 I saw this, and forgot to bring it up on the show but i saw about two months ago. American guy was a suicide bomber somewhere or other than he's ripping up the american passport these passports to terrorists are extremely valuable. You would not rip this up, I agree totally never rip up an American passport you would never rip up a Canadian passport they would go into the underground and be reused for terrorism so ripping up the passport itself is bullcrap So this is a fake, this is phony. This didn't happen. Anytime you see somebody ripping up a passport...this is bogus! I'm in agreement. They saw me ripping up my passport How many foreign fighters are in Iraq right now fighting for ISIS?

2:06:18 Ooh, upwards of 10-15 thousand. Upwards of 10-15 thousand all the new recruits now are coming to Iraq. I'm planning a very big attack been in Alayat ala. Inshallah we are... Whenever he says praise Allah God Allah is great that's what he keeps saying when you can't understand it he's saying praise Allah. ...to crush the Pashmerga The Pashmurga or the Kurdish army? Yes this is correct So who are your biggest enemies right now who are you fighting right now The world. Everyone in that coalition is trying to fight Islam and the Muslims. Everyone is trying to fight Islam and the Muslims, okay? Many martyrdom operations, alhamdulillah. Inshallah we'll make some attacks soon in New York. A lot of brothers there are mobilizing right now. And what are they mobilizing for?

2:07:09 mobilizing for a brilliant attack, my friend. Why is no one asking why they're getting so many foreign fighters? We're tired of oppression If you leave us alone we are going to leave you alone Right We are tired I don't want to fight I want to be at home with my family What do they call America? Land of the brave and home of the free Here is our home Land of the brave and home of the free Give us our freedoms You know if we want Sharia Allah Leave us alone Okay So that's the message Leave us alone. Let us have Sharia law in your country Which is totally the message that the warmongers want people to hear because that's what everyone's afraid of and that's why we need To go makes people more fearful yes, yes which is something I I It's foreign to me even though I've lived in well perhaps because I've lived in many different countries Americans were never

CHAPTER 42 / 62 Discussion

Public Fear, Pussification and Female CEOs

A cultural shift is identified where the American public is being "cowed" into constant fear of external threats like ISIS. This "wimpification" or "pussification" of the public is contrasted with the rise of women in major corporate leadership roles at companies like GM, IBM, and Lockheed Martin. The discussion suggests that modern society has lost the resilience seen during the World War II era.

fear· millennials· guns· gender roles· corporate leadership

2:08:05 fearful, this cower in the corner stuff. This shelter-in place... Yes it's a concern of mine I've been watching this trend and the frightening part about it is not That observation the frightening power Part about it is where does it lead if we're if the American public is constantly cowed into shaking in their boots? fearful that Isis is going to come up through the door and they even Propagandizing the military about this and chop off your head or kill your kids whoever you know, then they're coming up from the border They're in Texas now. There's probably one outside your door in Austin there all over

2:08:41 over the place and they're gonna get us are going to guess there's nothing we can do about it because a they've got the upper hand and we need more police powers. We you know, we need to protect the public. We have to do all these different things and it's cowing in the American public to the point where I think it's And there's more to it than that. I mean, i think that there is a whimpification of the public at large and you see on television, you see on TV shows with pretty much an agenda of soft male, they're not even... You can't say they are gay, just asexual whining, wimpy little males and oh we got to put more women in power. If you start looking at what women are running in this country CEO of DuPont is a woman the CEO of Lockheed Martin is a woman, the CEO of IBM is a woman, the CEO of Midlands Daniels whatever it is as a woman, the women...

2:09:40 General Motors is a woman. Women have already busted through the glass ceiling, they run most of the major corporations The men are all cowering in their boots We can't have guns on the street we're gonna all you know shoot each other if we have guns so we gotta get guns out of the hands of the public because you're going to get killed by somebody with a gun Vote Democratic and the whole I've... If World War II started today as we could somehow change this structure history I don't think we'd go to war, I think we just surrender. Let Hitler have the place! He knows how to run things!" And that's the story. Yeah yeah it's a... pussification which goes along with i heard the term yesterday generation wuss

CHAPTER 43 / 62 Discussion

Oklahoma Beheading, Workplace Dispute vs Terrorism

A woman was beheaded at a food distribution warehouse in Moore, Oklahoma, by a former employee named Alton Nolan. While initially reported as a workplace dispute, the FBI was called in to investigate Nolan's attempts to convert coworkers to Islam. Media coverage, particularly on CNN, has linked the "MO" of the killing to ISIS-style tactics, fueling fears of copycat attacks in the American heartland.

oklahoma· beheading· alton nolan· fbi· isis

2:10:28 is the term for the millennials. Well, this is again...we brought this up before the millennials cannot call out someone who cuts in line they'd have no mechanism for it They'll tell you we don't have a mechanism We don't know what to do somebody cuts in line in front of us. We just stand there like helpless sheep And so yesterday or the day before this was propagated I think we pretty much predicted we would see the copycats and people doing crazy crap It may not even be true But when you listen to how Don Lemon, Don Citroen from the CNN's with this Oklahoma workplace mishap. It was and especially when he brings in Martin Savage

2:11:20 It's just, can you make people any more afraid if you tried harder? So let's talk about beheadings shall we? Woo! Hey John. Let's talk about beheadings. By the way, can I bring up another point? Shall we? And her head is gone! I'm sorry yes? This is interesting... The beheading thing that was thinking about it and this is a you know they've always tried to find the scariest thing they can bring up to the public and there's something creepy about a beheading but if you remember during the era of this show the big scary scary thing was having your throat cut And all the guys, the journalists from The Wall Street Journal... Oh yes! I forgot about that. He's gonna get his throat cut, he's gonna get his throat cut and they pushed a throat cutting thing on the public trying to scare the public about throat cutting. Oh, we're gonna have a stroke, oh, the guy has got his throat cut. A man in a workplace had his throat cut. That wasn't creepy enough. They said screw it, we have not heard about throat-cutting for two years. Right?

2:12:25 Beheadings. Yeah, okay. Exactly but so let's just talk about beheadings for a moment Don Citron? So let's talk about the headings shall we yes I think it is great idea i haven't talked about the headings all day they're the MO of ISIS militants not the kind of crime you'd expect to hear in a small town outside Oklahoma City but now the FBI is investigating after a woman was beheaded while working at a food distribution warehouse and now we are learning that this ISIS style of killing may not be a coincidence.

2:13:06 Oh, there's no coincidence. There ain't no coincidence. Can't be a coincidence. Coincidence? I think not! We're going to go to CNN's Martin Savage he is following it all for us So Martin we're hearing that the FBI may be called in to investigate claims that he was trying to convert people to Islam Obviously there is a fear of copycat killings by ISIS supporters right here Fans What can you tell us about that? You know, as you point out ISIS itself has put out a call to people who may be sympathetic to their cause in these nations that have now joined the coalition to destroy ISIS. To launch attacks so... Really? I didn't hear the call did-did ISIS say go and cut people's heads off I didn't hear that. There's no doubt that there is that concern and there are some red flags as you point out yesterday this was first reported as a workplace dispute yeah, that's what it was...a workplace dispute until the headline writers got ahead of it got ahold of it and I think the woman was stabbed in the neck and maybe stabbed their head fell off

CHAPTER 44 / 62 Discussion

Alton Nolan, Social Media Footprint and Lone Wolves

Federal investigators are examining the "social footprint" of Alton Nolan to determine if he was directed by a terrorist organization or acted as a "lone wolf." CNN's Martin Savage reported that the FBI is looking for evidence of radicalization on Nolan's social media accounts. The segment mocks the repetitive nature of the "lone wolf" narrative used by federal authorities in the early stages of such investigations.

alton nolan· fbi· social media· lone wolf· cnn

2:14:04 And it should happen. Her head is gone. Stuff happens, you know if you stab someone enough the head will just topple over it does happen now the human body is frail It was a man who had been fired and it looked at that time like possibly this person had sought revenge by unfortunately attacking people where he worked However today we learned that MO that the first person he attacked was a woman He not only stabbed her but beheaded her and as you point out These days, anytime you hear that word you think automatically of terror. That's right! Oh yeah I think of terror all the time. On top of that according to authorities this same person who is now identified as Alton Nolan 30 years old is the suspect uh... that he tried to convert

2:14:48 fellow employees at that plant before he was fired to becoming a member of the Islamic faith. So now there's no man on the street, there is nothing about this, I think this is totally made up add those things together and people are starting to say wait a minute, maybe this was something inspired or maybe in some way he was sympathetic to the terrorist causes. That's why the local police have called in the FBI. The FBI now would be looking at this man social footprint. Social footprint John look out! on social media, in other words trying to find out what websites or with whom was he communicating. Was he actually getting orders from somewhere? Or was he merely finding these videos that are readily available out there and finding that he liked what he was hearing from ISIS we don't know it's... Hey! I like when i'm seeing this. This is good. I think you should behead some people

2:15:39 investigative but in the heartland of America it is sending shockwaves across the rest of the country. But it seems that at least on the federal level they are looking at this as if its possibly a lone wolf, in other words someone inspired by ISIS but not necessarily... Wait wait wait hold on! You gotta cut this down short or this guy's boring There's a reason Go You already ruined it never mind Okay, well in other words someone inspired by Isis But not necessarily a card-carrying member not necessarily somebody who was flown to the United States or directed to come here To carry out an assault which is really way too early. They are just starting to follow the threat No do you hear what he says they are getting stepped on it?

2:16:28 You ridicule? Yeah, yeah. Ridiculing and you step on it. To come here to carry out an assault It's really way too early They are just starting to follow the threats done. They're just- its only just begun! That's what I want. Yes we've just begun shitting I was a long way. Okay, you had a whole setup? I agree with what I ruined it for you, which is probably because you didn't tighten it up. You're right. I fucked that up. You're right. Because I should have been flat footed when you brought the one you know by now I fucked it up. It went on too long. Hey look What can I say I had a fever. That was a good idea. The idea was there. Good. It would have been very been hot

CHAPTER 45 / 62 Discussion

Scorpion TV Show, Aviation Safety and Radio Failure

The CBS show "Scorpion" featured a plot involving a virus that disabled air traffic control, leading to a "fourth option" of shooting down planes. This fictional scenario is compared to real-world aviation protocols for radio failure. Pilots are trained to look for emergency landing spots and use transponder codes to signal a loss of communication, contradicting the dramatic "shoot-down" narrative presented in the show.

scorpion· cbs· aviation· air traffic control· transponder

2:17:17 Unfortunately, it just totally sucked now. Thanks But I still have my back up and her head is gone. I always have that one let's talk about the Chicago thing Because this is a bunch of stuff I need to talk. This is your, you have an area of expertise on this show. But before we do...I have to play another clip from that Scorpion show where they talk about they're going to shoot down all these planes because- I'm surprised they didn't shoot down all the planes going into Chicago based on this particular clip. You know what? I'm gonna tell you it was a fourth team tracking the planes via radar circling over the ocean fighter jets

2:18:02 You'll shoot them down. Same protocol was activated 9-11 to prevent possible ground casualties. When you think of anything we can do, contact Director Merrick tell him I need to activate the fourth option. Oh the fourth option? That's the one where you shoot down all the planes! Right And so is that what happens? So I'm an airline pilot. This is the question, and actually wanted to ask this before...I am flying from London to LA or let's say Chicago but let's say L.A for this

2:18:38 And I get to near LA and they're telling me, you know across the country every once in a while somebody checks it. They wouldn't of course know anything about this LA thing that tell me in advance that this was going on and divert me to Portland but that's okay let's just assume that that's true so now I'm over LA I got no radio contact with anybody None and why is this 20 minutes would say half an hour's worth of fuel? And wait a minute. Why do you have no radio contact because the virus in this case has taken it out God has taken it out and somehow my radio doesn't work at all So I got no, but let's just say my radio doesn't work Okay What do I do today? Do I just go over the ocean let them shoot me down with an f-14 well as an airman

2:19:24 What you're always looking for even when everything is fine. You're always looking at where can I land? That's that's part of what you do every 10 minutes if my engine quit here, where would I land and You know you'd be surprised you can land pretty any aircraft. You know there's a lot of options There's more options than you think it would be may not be pretty but You're always thinking, where can I land? Now with this virus were the planes...was the aircraft incapacitated? This was vague. It would have to be because the planes seemed they couldn't communicate with anybody

2:20:03 Not not community, but not communicating doesn't mean you can't land the plane. No that's what I'm saying Oh is true then the place we're not incapacitated they weren't not landable They just there this story was so bad But I would wondering what would you do? Are you gonna go over the ocean like oh like a good boy and get shot down? No, I'm gonna find Stupid yeah, I'm gonna find a place to land of course And this would have happened in Chicago. So they set us up with this show and by the way, the first thing you do is you set your transponder hoping that someone will be able to read your non-communication transponder setting there's a number of things you do which even would include running lights I mean there's all kinds of ways you signal

2:20:46 that you have no communication capabilities. This is not uncommon, it happens. But you would be looking if you have no contact... You're looking to land somewhere if you're running out of fuel and you're gonna land! You're not gonna be shot down, you're not gonna land in the ocean either. You're going to find a place to land, of course. And there's plenty places to land especially in the LA region Yeah, I think there's enough opportunities. Yes. Yeah, there's Long Beach, there's Burbank, there's Ontario... And you're coming in and the traffic patterns can be very strange and rough and it's not pretty but yeah, I would land it. So this is just bullcrap we got a note from Chad Biederman who was in the Chicago event

CHAPTER 46 / 62 Discussion

Chicago O'Hare Fire, Air Traffic Control Sabotage

A fire at an air traffic control facility in Aurora, Illinois, caused the cancellation of over 1,700 flights at O'Hare and Midway airports. The fire was allegedly started by Brian Howard, a contract employee for the Harris Corporation, in an apparent suicide attempt. Despite the chaos, some travelers reported a surprisingly pleasant experience as the reduction in traffic allowed for on-time landings and clear customs.

o'hare airport· aurora illinois· sabotage· harris corporation· faa

2:21:35 And he sent us an email, I want to read it. Just thought I'd share my personal O'Hare horror story from yesterday resulting from the nut job sabotage of the air traffic controller site in Aurora." Now we do have one other listener or producer who says it's definitely CIA and I don't know where he gets that information but he made it clear that was a fact. My experience might not be the norm but for me personally, it was great! I took an international flight from Brussels to Chicago leaving Belgium at approximately 4 30 in the morning Chicago time roughly and roughly an hour and a half before the fire in Aurora was first reported. About halfway through the flight, the pilot notified us that there may be a delay in arrival because of the fire that one of the air traffic controller centers near Chicago

2:22:20 Seeing how it was a stiff breeze in Cleveland could result in the delay at O'Hare, I just assumed it was simple electrical fire. However due to the flight cancellations and the sharp reduction of Chicago air traffic my plane landed on time! Furthermore, it was clear sailing all the way through customs. The baggage came through in record time too. It was the single most pleasant arrival experience I've had at O'Hare. The FAA must have had enough time to manually transfer my flights planned to another facility like Indianapolis or Milwaukee so that I could return home without delay." By the way, he credits this with karma from The No Agenda Show. Well obviously! So what is your question? My question was the previous question... This is a follow-up to the question which you already answered which is what does a pilot do when he's out of communications as they go over the ocean and get shot down by jet? And then you answer no. But that's what they say in this story, this stupid scorpion thing

2:23:16 I have two reports from the event on CBS. Why was it... Go ahead, why would this? No, no, I didn't find this very interesting and I don't know what is going on. I do know that they built an entire backup system there that apparently either isn't operational or wasn't turned on or… Well you didn't think the story was peculiar I mean, the guy sets the place on fire stabs himself. Well that was not apparent to be stabbed himself well That's with them just telling you where it's reported and so it's reported with all this nonsense in you

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Brian Howard, FAA Subcontractor Sabotage

Brian Howard has been charged with a felony for the destruction of aircraft facilities following the fire in Aurora. Howard, who had the necessary security clearance as a contract employee, was found in the basement with self-inflicted stab wounds and burns. The incident has raised questions about the vulnerability of the FAA's centralized control systems and the reliability of government subcontractors.

brian howard· faa· sabotage· harris corporation· felony

2:23:55 And then they had to shut down the airport for, you know five or six hours and midway. And then they have all these reports from the field on The National News are making a big deal about it right after the same this is CBS reports right after the same CBS show Scorpion shows a similar situation You don't think this is like a coincidence? I gotcha. I hadn't made the scorpion connection Yes Okay, I got ya. I'm with you What do you got Well, I don't have anything. I was asking you! I thought YOU'D have something because it was your special... No! But you have two clips you said? Yeah let's play the clip CBS report on the fire this is just a news item Today A man apparently bent on suicide showed us just how fragile and vulnerable The air traffic control system can be A regional control center outside Chicago Was evacuated when an employee of the Harris Corporation A government subcontractor allegedly started a fire

2:24:47 He has been identified tonight as Brian Howard. He's been charged with destruction of aircraft facilities, which is a felony This is a check-in counter at O'Hare Airport where things are slowly getting back to normal tonight but more than 1700 flights were canceled Travelers tried to rebook but many won't get out until tomorrow or even later We have two reports beginning with correspondent Dean Reynolds When firefighters arrived on the scene, they found a federal facility in the dark and a 36-year old man in the basement with burns and self inflicted stab wounds. Greg Thomas is the Aurora Illinois police chief At this time we believe that the injured man set fire and used some type of accelerant

2:25:34 All right, now there's a couple of things I'm getting out of this. One is that there are some FAA action going on they want to modernize or God knows what and the other one is that say...there's the messaging as we've heard for a couple years now subcontractors are bad? Well, that is what I got immediately from it and I was immediately thinking sabotage from one subcontractor to another, that kind of thing Or maybe showing that the backup system that was put in place doesn't work right, or trying to make someone else look bad. Or perhaps an entire event that just didn't work out? Which I would be thinking in terms of because of these follow-up when they did the second part which is the Part 2 this clip...I have never seen a news conference especially on something had just happened with a news organization using a three camera shoot

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Three-Camera News Conference, Psychological Operations

Observers noted that the press conference following the Aurora FAA fire featured a sophisticated three-camera shoot, which is highly unusual for a local breaking news event. This professional production quality, combined with the thematic similarities to the TV show "Scorpion," leads to speculation that the event may have been a coordinated psychological operation. The "isolated incident" narrative is questioned given the extensive media preparation.

aurora· illinois· news conference· psychological operation· scorpion

2:26:25 On location? Yes, at the news conference. There was no... I'm gonna ring the bell when they change cameras and angles This is never done. Huh! There was no explosion Police confirmed that this vehicle being towed from the lot at the FAA facility belongs to Brian Howard of nearby Naperville, Illinois Who is now hospitalized in stable condition and hours after the incident law enforcement officers converged on an address in Naperville Believed to be Howard's home. Howard was identified as a contract employee of the FAA with the necessary clearance to be in the highly secure building. John Lehman is the Aurora Fire Chief.

2:27:18 They encountered him, they attempted to get him out of the building. There was some degree of effort on their part to drag him out of the building but he was conscious. Okay, they went to Correspondent Dean with a shot on him and there's like a bunch of press guys and put this camera on the guy as he's, as a specialized question and as soon as he finishes the question camera number two hits the chief of police from the straight on shot answering the question. And in the middle of his answer a third camera goes to a side shot of him and the press corps

2:27:57 Reynolds now the police are stressing that this is an isolated incident with no connection to terrorism but an isolated incident with endless implications. All right so what you are implying, speaking of implications is that this is a multiple psychological operation. Well, what I'm implying is that this was set up to be a big deal and you have a three-camera shoot at the press conference which turns out not to be a big deal somebody dropped the ball on this thing...I have no idea

2:28:34 or the head be heading at them all over there or that workplace maybe if taken this didn't work out is what i'm saying i think i've i agree with that i agree first they set it up with the good scorpion nonsense and then they try to do whatever they're trying to do here i don't know what it was big and anybody because you are always stabbing serenity to go in three camera shoot the whole thing about that since i was and and then we get nothing so i think we just dodged six-week bullet of some sort okay Now, while on that topic since I'm going to just take over for a second. The six-week bullet dodge...I think they've been dropping the ball on a lot of stuff and I think maybe because Mueller's gone and they don't know who took his team with him or something they haven't been able to get any these things to click. Well, the guy running this show is talking about donuts all day long what do you expect? He's a cop! What do you expect?!

CHAPTER 49 / 62 Discussion

Eric Frein Manhunt, Smith-Mundt Act Propaganda

The manhunt for suspected sniper Eric Frein in the Pennsylvania Poconos has reached the two-week mark without an apprehension. Police claim to have found evidence on a hard drive suggesting Frein planned his escape for years, yet sightings have remained scarce. The ongoing "boogeyman" narrative is linked to the 2013 overturning of the Smith-Mundt Act, which now allows the U.S. government to use propaganda against its own citizens.

eric frein· pennsylvania· manhunt· smith-mundt act· ndaa

2:29:27 This is the story that started two weeks ago, and they do think it was a complete dud. And now they're trying to get it out... this is the one where the Pennsylvania manhunt, this is the Pennsylvania manhood follow-up They can't find the guy. They shut down a whole town because of this guy on the loose He's gonna kill everybody! And this went nowhere and this is neither trying to get out of the story Just across the river from us here in the state of Pennsylvania, the manhunt for a suspected sniper and cop killer has hit the two-week mark now. Tonight Eric Freen remains on the loose but police today said they have found new evidence left behind We get a late report tonight from NBC's Ron Allen A very stark example today of how daunting this manhunt is

2:30:14 A huge tactical team scoured the massive Buck Hill Inn, one of the largest resorts in the Poconos. 900 thousand square feet, 9600 acres abandoned some 20 years ago and now haunted by ghosts according to local legends. Police say they had information Kreen has spent some time at the site but no sign of him Police have found evidence on a computer hard drive that Freen planned his escape for years. Researching topics such as how to avoid manhunts, police technology, survival skills... They also believe he experimented with explosives and may have set up booby traps in the woods where he's been hiding for two weeks You've not said you're closing in still do you think you are?

2:30:54 I believe we're close, i believe he's in the area and it is a matter of time until we apprehend him. Police say they are still finding clues items hidden or discarded by Frieden but there hasn't been a possible sighting for almost three days. They are convinced that he is still in the area. Are you concerned about going in there? Yes And residents around here hope this nightmare in their neighborhood soon ends Ron Allen NBC News Blooming Grove Pennsylvania DUD. Yeah, it appears to be part of your overarching theme today Just keep the people afraid of everything the boogeyman's under your bed is around the corner He's gonna take your head off It's gonna take a kid's head off if you're flight is gonna get shot down over the ocean

2:31:41 And this of course is the moment when I need to remind everybody that the Smith-Mundt Act, which forbade the American government from propaganda against its own people was overturned in 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. This may very well be a part of the propaganda that is intended and now no longer illegal or unlawful against the American people! I don't see many other explanations for this type of behavior. I don't either. And, I think your Smith-Mund reference needs to be repeated. Well that's why i do it Yes well you should continue until people realize this is connected to what we're seeing in the news. I wanted to take a break here and I realized looking at the spreadsheet we got really lucky today with our instant nights and number of other knights and dukes coming in

CHAPTER 50 / 62 Discussion

Personal History, Greenpeace and Climate Change

A look back at a 1985 concert in Rotterdam reveals a host's past involvement with Greenpeace, specifically "rocking for Greenpeace" during a televised event. This "cringe-worthy" moment is used to satirize current climate change rhetoric and the "reawakening" of former deniers. The anecdote serves as a reminder of how long environmental agendas have been promoted through popular entertainment.

greenpeace· 1985· rotterdam· climate change· personal anecdote

2:32:41 Donors above 50 is quite short. Yes And I would and I've been as you know preparing for the future Which you might want to consider as well, you never know what's gonna have property? Well yes, that's true I don't I don't have any property but I have no ownership of crappy cars is what I have yeah, why? Although my car is not crappy. I think that's my cough ever since I was in your car All that dust? I think that's what happened. You had this cough for a while and as i was thinking now they, I don't think I've shown it to you but they made a great video for me for my 50th birthday and it contained the number of things I'd done throughout about my career

2:33:32 It's always fun to embarrass somebody. There was one real cringe-worthy moment in there, which I see yes, and this happened in 1985 it was a huge concert called the Rock Night. I believe this was with InXS and I'm very happy. I have it now for when plan B has to go into effect and I'm going to say, Oh, I don't know if that's a good idea or not. But I think there are some things that we can do in terms of making sure that we're doing what we need to be doing. And so I'll play this short clip for you. It was at the Rotterdam Mahoy, which is a,

2:34:19 For years I lived amongst the climate change deniers. But you didn't know? No, I knew it. But you weren't awakened? I was living dangerously and then I was reawakened mind you, reawakened and I discovered the error of my ways that now I can help fight climate change and fight the deniers. Now when someone says oh that's bullcrap, I say please let me take you back in history to prove to you... You've always been on board Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Veronica Rock Night 1985. And as you may or may not know tonight we're rocking for Greenpeace! How embarrassing is that? That's bad We're rocking for Greenpeace everybody! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab! On NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 51 / 62 Discussion

Seventh Anniversary, SACA Sevens and Global Donors

The program prepares for its seventh anniversary on October 26th, with many donors contributing "7777" amounts to celebrate. Donors from Switzerland, Germany, and the UK are recognized for their ongoing support. The segment also clarifies that the "No Agenda Airport Wi-Fi" is exclusively available at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, despite requests from listeners in other cities.

anniversary· saca· switzerland· germany· donation

2:35:30 We do have some people to thank for rocking for green peas including Jonathan Vaughn in Fairfield, Illinois. One two three four five one of my favorite donations we have another doublet of one two three four fives again which is interesting to me first time donation he says each episode of late has been excellent puts a skip in my step each Thursday and Sunday keep up the great work would like to call out Alan and Joe Allen oh and Jordan's bag and Jordan they're not donating okay yeah good work all right thank you Joel, I think there's Bueller, Bueller, Bueller. I can't... There is a missing letter. Yeah but I don't have it on my spreadsheet either It's at PayPal They don't use Unicode and you don't get the numbers. It's probably Bueller or Bowler. Bueller. One of the two. And what did you pick for five? Erlenbach Switzerland, Suisse. I do not have the feeling that

2:36:32 I do not have the feeling that I really have to contribute. There are enough donors out there, right? Apparently not." Then I listened to the show 493 Here Is My Money. What did we do in 493? Remember Show 493 says you must listen and give money! 493? That's a while back. Yeah, but so is that where he is on the spectrum? He says four times I guess maybe he's either catching up or he's just randomly going back. I have no idea Well if you give me a second I can just look at 493 and I can tell you what it was But that's rather... While your doing that I'll continue Angela Castaneda in Henderson Nevada nice town $111 Gareth Butler in Buckingham Buckingham sure

2:37:18 in the UK and he thanks you for $99.99 for you for the Schiphol Airport Wi-Fi. Oh yeah, I need to mention something about this Schiphol airport Wi-Fi yes Schiphol airport in the last three weeks has now decided to make all Wi-Fi free so it's been a great run and I like it still being up It might be faster. It may be faster, but also people need to understand we only have this at Schiphol Airport for some reason I don't know how this happens people say hey can i have the new agenda airport wi-fi? I'm in Denver!

2:38:02 People don't pay it careful attention. They really don't I'm gonna be in London can I have the Wi-Fi? No, we only have one for one Airport Yeah, or not that big Suria sir Brian Ferguson the Baron of Costa Mesa and Foothill Ranch California 7777 celebrate our anniversary sir Christopher Walker, I forgot to say Angela Castaneda is of course in lost wages she's gonna be hooking up with a with Foley. Yeah, it's cool good yeah uh Sir Christopher Walker in Hortonville Wisconsin

2:38:38 7777, John Anderson 7777 in Youngsville Louisiana. And that's for SACA sevens for our seventh anniversary coming up on the 26th of October. Yes, coming soon. Stuart rushing at Corvallis Oregon 7777 6969 from Christopher Pousatary, Pusatory, Pousatary, Pousatary I guess Bethel Park Pennsylvania 6660 from Curtis Smith and Corrigan Texas Keith Gibson, Holly Springs North Carolina 6550. Werner...oh I'm sorry Joshua Mandel in Greenville North Carolina and he's highlighted on here always because there is no note 6452. Werner Bogila in Hamburg Deutschland 5533. I think the highlight means that you do have a note.

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Anonymous Lesbian, Job Karma and Final Credits

The "Anonymous Lesbian" producer sent a note reiterating her "crush" on the hosts while contributing to the show. Other donors from the Netherlands, the Philippines, and various U.S. states are credited for their support. The segment concludes with a final call for "job karma" and a reminder for producers to include their titles in future correspondence.

anonymous lesbian· job karma· netherlands· philippines· donation

2:39:34 No. I do not have a note. All right, I only have one note left and it's from our friend the anonymous lesbian Tim Schallberger in Bend Oregon 5510 is after the hatchet job on Adam to make him look like the Crypt Keeper i had to donate thank you good These things pay off Eric Huckel in Berlin Deutschland 52 want to thank him I he's must be a server by now. We got to get that right sir Jeffrey Gerlach of Viscount actually of the area My area you need some job karma at the end and how that happened But we'll get him some right at the very end is the Lincoln He's not only can isn't conquer as far as I know Rene or Lafayette, I believe

2:40:24 Rene Worley in Elmere, Netherlands. Elmera. Elmera. Olmyra. Olmyra! Yep. You know what I just yell louder at you. It's like the Americans. Si senor! Je m'en fous! David Hahn now these are all 50s. David Hahn in Hartford Wisconsin. Marion Avila in the Philippines somewhere David Durrell in Front Royal, Virginia. Peter Totez, Sir Peter Totez as far as I know... Yeah people put that on your notes when you send it in because it's hard for us to track that but we're just doing this from memory so please put your titles on your correspondence. Ross Turpin and Troy Kansas Gerald Inabinet.

2:41:21 I'm guessing. It's a very unusual name in South Carolina, Shad Rich and Bendigo in Seattle Washington Michael Towan in Hayden Idaho Anonymous lesbian there we go does have a note I will read I always enjoy reading her notes because she's the anonymous lesbians She has a crush on you as she does and she reiterates that in this note by then This is the actual note blah blah blah violin blab Blah blah blah, I have a crush on John. Blah blah blah, actually I think Adam is kinda great too in spite of him getting a little whiny in his old age I'm not whining. Her head is gone. I'm not whining. Yes, anyway that's uh according to Aaron JTD has love letter sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California is our last donor for show 656 we hope to get some more people involved in shows 657 coming up on Thursday go to Dvorak org slash

2:42:22 NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA, NO AGENDA show and noagendanation.com both have buttons you can push if you can't get to dvorak.org slash na. Thanks! We got a couple $49 donors and yeah, four dollars. So what we need to do now though is we need to do the jobs karma that's what I almost forgot jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs here we go you've And only be one for today Brian Hall sir fudge mountain says happy birthday to his friend M who turns 40 today? Happy birthday from your friends here the best podcast in the universe And now two instant nights very happy to do this always nice So we'll get our blades at the ready, sir. Hello, sir Terry Stallion Kurt Winkler step on up tonight

2:43:29 Up to the podium, please. Both of you have contributed to the best podcast in universe. In matter $1,000 more, you are now Instant 9th so I hereby am very proud to pronounce thee Sir Terry The Cheap Bastard Of Mobile Bay and Sir Kurt Of Team Winky! Gentlemen for you we have Hookers And Blow Red Boys And Chardonnay Puppies And Port, Poor Stars And Pot Bad science and perky breasts, opium in warm orange juice. Hot librarians and Jaeger bombs Three geishas in a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze Vodka vanilla or maybe some mutton in mead see I made another selection there you see yes I know this on the fly is how I do it tastic that's right go to no agenda nation comm slash rings pick them up And but we'll have Eric DeShill send that out to you ASAP Thank You so much

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Instant Knight Ceremony, Uber Public Radio

Sir Terry and Sir Kurt are officially knighted in a ceremony celebrating their $1,000 contributions. The hosts describe the show as "Uber Public Radio," an independent, listener-supported alternative to traditional media. The "Global Intelligence Network" of producers is credited for providing the research and analysis that fuels the program's deconstruction of the news.

knighthood· public radio· global intelligence network· value-for-value· ceremony

2:42:22 NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA, NO AGENDA show and noagendanation.com both have buttons you can push if you can't get to dvorak.org slash na. Thanks! We got a couple $49 donors and yeah, four dollars. So what we need to do now though is we need to do the jobs karma that's what I almost forgot jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs here we go you've And only be one for today Brian Hall sir fudge mountain says happy birthday to his friend M who turns 40 today? Happy birthday from your friends here the best podcast in the universe And now two instant nights very happy to do this always nice So we'll get our blades at the ready, sir. Hello, sir Terry Stallion Kurt Winkler step on up tonight

2:43:29 Up to the podium, please. Both of you have contributed to the best podcast in universe. In matter $1,000 more, you are now Instant 9th so I hereby am very proud to pronounce thee Sir Terry The Cheap Bastard Of Mobile Bay and Sir Kurt Of Team Winky! Gentlemen for you we have Hookers And Blow Red Boys And Chardonnay Puppies And Port, Poor Stars And Pot Bad science and perky breasts, opium in warm orange juice. Hot librarians and Jaeger bombs Three geishas in a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze Vodka vanilla or maybe some mutton in mead see I made another selection there you see yes I know this on the fly is how I do it tastic that's right go to no agenda nation comm slash rings pick them up And but we'll have Eric DeShill send that out to you ASAP Thank You so much

2:44:15 Everybody, thank you. Thank you for everybody who participates in the program. Everybody is by default a member of our global intelligence network. You know we are Uber Public Radio and this is exactly what it is! Yeah nope we are public radio modern public radio independent uber independent uber public radio independent uber Something like that. Yeah, well something um Did you want to do Ebola still or we want to keep that for four Thursday? I think Ebola will be around I don't have any I do have something interesting now. I think when you hold off an Ebola I still have a big bigger report to put together Oh, I know I'm sorry stop. I have something that is for you. I saved it for you We need to I need to do this for you It's a two-parter one is

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Sandy Hook FBI Statistics, Zero Murders in Newtown

FBI crime statistics for 2012 show zero murders in Newtown, Connecticut, despite the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting occurring in December of that year. While other cities like Hartford and Bridgeport show double-digit murder rates, the Newtown entry remains blank or zero. This anomaly has fueled significant online debate and skepticism regarding the official reporting of the event.

sandy hook· fbi· newtown· connecticut· crime statistics

2:45:10 The FBI releases its statistics. You may have heard this, it's been floating around for a day or two. The FBI always has the statistics of deaths and murders and other types of crimes throughout the United States And for 2012 in Connecticut, if you go to the page... The page is of course in the show notes at 656.nashownotes.com If you go to Connecticut then go to Newtown and you go to the column for murder and non-negligent manslaughter

2:45:51 For 2012, what should the number be? I don't know. How many were killed? 26? I think that was the number yes Yeah i think so So it should be 26 Or more Wait no it has to be at least 26. That's what it was It was more than 26 and the number is zero what? The number is zero how could the number be 0 yeah, and the number is zero They screwed that one up Yeah The number is zero And I'm looking at them live page now so it hasn't changed the numbers still zero and as a part of this So we had the year wrong maybe 2013 No, you know in December 2012

2:46:32 Okay, we didn't they have the 1212. What was that? Wasn't that there didn't they have that thing 1212 remember the 1212 of 12 wasn't it to get two people to join a club or something and Was at it They had a they had a thing let me look it up I think I don't believe you It's 2012 then I'll look at other so in Connecticut There were other deaths so Hartford Connecticut 23 murders what else do we have Bridgeport 22 Um, you look up Newtown and it just doesn't really have much going on here. Newtown shooting June 2013 is the report where's it was to say they have a debate back there? Maybe don't come up in the 2013 stats. I dunno, but that would be my guess. But this leads into another report now of course we know Adam Lanza who was the suspected

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Homeschooling Oversight, Sandy Hook Advisory Commission

The Sandy Hook Advisory Commission released a draft recommendation suggesting increased state oversight for homeschooled children with "social and emotional challenges." This proposal stems from the investigation into Adam Lanza, although reports indicate he attended a mix of public school, tutoring, and homeschooling. Critics argue the move is an attempt to close "gaps" in state control over private education.

homeschooling· sandy hook· adam lanza· connecticut· mental health

2:47:29 a homeschooled. Oh yeah, you can't have that." This week the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission released a draft recommendation saying if parents choose to home school children with social and emotional challenges they would have to have an education plan approved by the special education director in that town. Hamden Mayor Scott Jackson is the chairman of the commission and says the additional oversight is aimed at making sure kids with mental health problems are getting the help they need

2:48:08 We as a community have to watch out for every child and one of the ways we do that is when they're in the school buildings But we can't forget The young men and women who are not inside those buildings We have to pay attention when you're not in your shula. When you're not in your shula, you may be up to no good." Donna says it's not the answer and she wants the state to prove that Newtown school shooter was homeschooled She says its likely he had a home based education through the school system and still fell through the cracks The states attorney report says Adam Lansom attended a combination of public school classes, homeschooling and tutoring

2:48:45 Mayor Jackson says regardless of Lanza's education, their job is to look for gaps. Yeah it is controversial but it creates a change but isn't that what we're supposed to do? Yeah I think thats what you are supposed to do. The shooting was December 14th 2012 so here's the meeting What are we gonna do? We're trying, you know... Hey Bill! What?! We've got this report we're working on and uh..we got an anomaly here. We have to keep these numbers going lower And we don't have the Sandy Hook numbers. We didn't put them in Well there were no numbers Well that may be true but we should have to put them in because somebody's gonna notice

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Global Citizen Festival, Tiësto and Ronan Farrow

The Global Citizen Festival was held in Central Park, featuring performances by Jay-Z, Carrie Underwood, and DJ Tiësto. MSNBC's Ronan Farrow interviewed Tiësto backstage about his involvement with the World's Childhood Foundation and efforts to end extreme poverty. Critics dismiss the event as "star showboating," while organizers claim it is a substantive effort to engage youth in global issues.

global citizen festival· tiesto· ronan farrow· central park· poverty

2:49:30 No, nobody's gonna notice. Just put them in zero it's fine we gotta keep our numbers down we don't need to... there aren't real numbers anyway just go with the zero which is accurate you can't go wrong by being accurate and indeed nobody notices I'm surprised YOU noticed! Well a lot of people noticed You got me on that one Nobody noticed, nobody cares Hmm. So there's, of course are debunk sites out there with all kinds... very complicated explanations of how this happened and how these numbers were not in there? Okay fine sure alright I'll take it i'll put that in the show notes what I can't like don't have time to look at it right now Meanwhile Uh-oh! I hate it when you start off like that There's some good crap going on that you weren't paying any attention to apparently And I'm very disappointed in you Oh really?! Yeah The Global Citizen Festival

2:50:30 Oh crap, how could I have missed it? Where's my invitation?" And you missed out because they had... Because I caught the beginning of it. It was co-sponsored by some operation called KICC, The Global Citizen, MSNBC and NBC is all in it together and here are that guy Chris Hayes and some other geek and somebody else from MSNBC hosting the event on a die ass and then they get Frank Sinatra's kid in the back to interview of all people someone you should know. Tiesto!

2:51:11 Wait, where is this being held? In New York? In New York. They got the new mayor because they haven't done any big concerts on the major big giant lawn where Simon and Garfunkel sung. Yeah. They haven't had one concert since then and now they get a new mayor who's all in with MSNBC. They allowed these guys to put on a concert and here's a little background on it you can play this. So much coming up including live performances from no doubt Carrie Underwood, on with Tiesto, Alicia Keys, The Roots and Jay-Z. The intrepid Ronan Farrow is backstage with Tiesto. Ronan what a get! We're just in the first 15 minutes of the show. What do you got for us my friend? I'm rounding up the good sources for you guys be thankful. Tiesto are you excited about tonight? You've seen this crowd what is different about the energy out here tonight? Well it's very special occasion to be at Central Park

2:52:01 with so many great artists, it's going to be amazing. And what inspired you to get involved in something that is musical yes but also about some more substantive issues? Well I've been very lucky in my life always meeting the right people at the right time and getting a break and its really important for me to give back and see what global poverty does and the Childhood Foundation is amazing, and I want to be part of it. So talk about that you've transitioned from working on music to working with this group The World's Childhood Foundation why? Well I met the people personally behind it and I met Queen Sylvia and Princess Nathalanda from childhood And they told... And they'll be here tonight They will be here tonight and they told me all about it and we're so passionate about it I wanted to get involved in give youths a better chance to be successful

2:52:47 and to keep them safe. And also the Global Poverty Foundation, yeah. So what do you say, Tiësto? To people who say oh this is star showboating this isn't really substantive this isn't what we need to add to the conversation I think they're wrong! You know... I met the organization from this whole thing You know... Who is this guy? Well, of course he's a colleague. I'm DJ Terezzo and he is DJ Tiesto. He's a club DJ and he's very famous, very popular makes… This guy must be doing $20 million dollars a year minimum

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NPR Planet Money, Ebola Fundraising Lack

NPR's "Planet Money" aired a 20-minute segment discussing the lack of public fundraising for the Ebola epidemic compared to past disasters like the Haiti earthquake. The segment noted that despite the "horrible, scary, and wretched" nature of the disease, there have been no major benefit concerts or viral Twitter campaigns. Analysts suggest the piece is a "pre-sell" to generate public support for increased government spending and troop deployment.

npr· planet money· ebola· fundraising· west africa

2:53:33 And it's all he just travels around the world Mainly private jets just from one gig to the next, you know spinning records. You could be doing this Yeah, yeah could be I could be but I'd be doing it for Greenpeace though. Which would be a little different You might get the global citizen thing they're gonna eliminate extreme poverty. Yeah, you know This has been very successful in the past. I think hands across America as a Homeless it's funny because well now I will play this this is I do and then use you've taken me there We have to go

2:54:11 We have to go into Ebola. You've opened it up, we're now into Ebola there you go! There was a 20 minute piece on NPR on Planet Money about the lack of fundraising for Ebola. Twenty minutes I've cut it down to just a few which by itself is a feat The woman in this...I don't listen to Planet Money regularly I don't know if she's on the show planet money. Yeah, it's a pretty popular and is a money show the woman who is on the cheap now? On one hand I like it because her voice is so recognizable Her tone The way she speaks as you can pick her out of a thousand She could be doing Toyota commercial voiceovers cuz it's very this very very recognizable But it's also one of the most annoying voices have ever heard Oh So the crux of this

2:55:10 is no one's raising money for Ebola. Why not? And as this whole thing goes all the way through to the end, no one's doing anything people are dying they interview people from Liberia everyone why and no one cares and it's obvious they're trying to get something started to cover up the fact that it's either bogative or it is just a new way of economic hitman taking over a country and listen to her I've been thinking a lot about Ebola. Oh yeah, she's perfect! This is voice over voice. I've been thinking a lot about Ebola recently. Recently? I read all the news about it. It is a horrible fascinating epidemic there are thousands dead in West Africa. It's fascinating how many are dead in West Africa

2:55:59 And I guess, I've been a little surprised at how little action I see around this terrible disaster. Yeah it's in all of the newspapers on all of our radio programs and yet no one has texted me with you know donate to Ebola relief send this code back There's no big benefit concert with Elton John, Lady Gaga, John Legend singing for Ebola. No huge Twitter campaign hashtag stop ebola I called up some charitable organizations that deal with disasters and they say yeah there has not been a lot of money coming in to help A lot of money coming in with Ebola We all remember the... we have to say it like that...EBOLA

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Ebola Statistics, 1.4 Million Infection Projection

The CDC released a projection that 1.4 million people could be infected with Ebola if no action is taken to slow the outbreak. This "worst-case scenario" number has dominated headlines, despite being based on the assumption that "nothing whatsoever" would be done. The segment highlights the disconnect between these shocking projections and the actual funds being raised by organizations like Doctors Without Borders.

ebola· cdc· liberia· doctors without borders· fundraising

2:56:39 Ebola. How's the E-BOMA doing for E-BOMA? Big fundraising campaigns after huge disasters, but listen to these numbers when there was an earthquake in Haiti 1.4 billion dollars came... Hold on a second that's just what Clinton stole It was $10 billion. They're very revisionist here in your history, but also we had this take place... We just need cash I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash. The tsunami 10 years ago that hit Indonesia raised $1.6 billion,

2:57:27 Clearly the problem with raising money for Ebola is not the severity of the disaster. Do you think it's from Buffalo or something? I don't know, but it's very funny. Ebola... Ebola is horrible. It is scary and wretched and miserable. It is gross You're in terrible pain. You bleed from everywhere And you die quickly I gotta isolate remind me to isolate that bit That hit Indonesia raised 1.6 billion tell me buddy, but with something like Ebola happens So far people have been looking the other way can I have a couple of answers be bola? Tell me about your bola clearly the problem with raising money for ebola is not the severity of the disaster no because Ebola is Horrible it's scary and wretched and miserable

2:58:17 miserable is... We have to stop. We must have some linguists out there that understand accents and their regionalism aspects, and where they're from. Somebody who listens to this show has to know where this accent comes from. You might be right. It could be Rochester New York. It could be some part of Long Island or I don't know but now I'm so curious because it's an accent. It's a strong accent but as I can identify it definitely back east What is her name? Well, someone's going to look. It's almost over this Ebola. You're in terrible pain you bleed from everywhere and you die quickly the people on the ground there it's mostly doctors without borders they are overwhelmed which is what amazes so far no mention of the 3 000 combat troops we have there to fight ebola right these supplies these people the money needed to do all these things has not yet shown up in west africa and

2:59:17 And without all these things, without the money, without the supplies, without the people... What do you mean without the money? Hundreds of millions of dollars we're spending. Why is this on NPR? The situation's getting worse. So how do you- Set up! Sorry just set up. Yeah, I'm gonna roll get people to give in this situation like this is something that charities are thinking about all the time Yeah The CDC just released this remarkable number they said if nothing is done to slow down Ebola 1.4 million People will be infected with this disease This is where it's all headed with this Pre-sell for the big

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Leonardo DiCaprio, UN Climate Messenger

Leonardo DiCaprio has been appointed as a UN Messenger of Peace for climate change, replacing other celebrities who may have fallen out of favor. The discussion links this to the broader "Global Citizen" movement and the use of high-profile entertainers to promote political agendas. The role of electronic dance music (EDM) and DJs like Tiësto in these large-scale "awareness" events is also examined.

leonardo dicaprio· united nations· climate change· tiesto· edm

2:59:57 This is very clear. Ebola will have 1.4 million people who will die, but maybe that's just a number that's not true in January. One point four million people? That is very scary. That is scary almost as scary as being beheaded. It's a shocking number to read it a couple of times when it came out to say wait a minute one point four million people now They do say this is a worst, worst case scenario. Remember John 20 minutes of this and interviews with All this stuff and then going to Staten Island with his Liberians who are trying to raise money if they only get $25 in their little Indiegogo. I'm not kidding 20 minutes of this and it is an unlikely scenario, and then they open

3:00:53 It's so scary, but it is unlikely. They're saying, oh but you know. It is sending troops to Liberia the UN is talking about how they can send additional help and the 1.4 million was calculated assuming that nothing whatsoever would be done But the one point four million number is making headlines it's a shocking number and maybe it's supposed to be shocking ah it's essentially saying hey the telethon

3:01:29 One thing that you might get around to throwing next year if this keeps getting worse and worse and worse when things are terrible, you might want to try that now before it gets much worse. Well, you know what that means? Although I think he's out of play now. He's been taken down. Yeah, yeah, I think your eyes have been taken down. It has to be DiCaprio or something. No, DiCaprio is the new go-to guy because then he dropped a ball somewhere He probably objected to doing something he should have done. He said, no I'm not going to do that and they said okay well you're screwed then you're gonna marry this woman and you're gonna be...you're done! You can do...number of movies is going down These things don't happen by accident these 20 minute pieces on NPR...on Planet Money?

3:02:26 It's bull crap. Yeah, well yes but I'm very disturbed by how it's being and recall the president hey if you got to believe they have to get Tiesto. Yes yeah no that's not great television Tiesto is not great television he just a nerd spinning records which is probably coming from a USB stick I'm not saying that you can't do it. You know, if you're a good person and you're doing something right, then you should be able to get people to come in and help out

3:03:03 I'm not a raver and i'm not really into this type of entertainment but you know, this type of music has been paired perfectly with the drug ecstasy or what MDMA. And it is an enhancement and if your good DJ you know exactly how to get everybody in the flow and when the dealers are out in the audience then bring everybody up and bring everybody down there's art to it no doubt about it And this guy, he does stadiums in South America. I mean it's incredible what these guys do. It's incredible! Incredible, I tell you. I have one last thing if you don't mind... I do not mind. I think this is an underreported story and i think its got legs

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German Ethics Committee, Incest Legalization Debate

A German government ethics committee has recommended the decriminalization of incest, citing the right to "sexual self-determination." This follows a high-profile court case involving a brother and sister who had four children together. The committee argues that current laws are an unacceptable intrusion into private life, sparking a debate on the boundaries of modern sexual freedoms.

germany· incest· ethics committee· sexual self-determination· human rights

3:03:54 These legs are apparently belong to both brothers and sisters. This is the incest is coming clip. Council thinks as it's pushing for an end to the criminalization of incest, claims that current law violates people's basic freedoms. Here's Peter Oliver It's one of the most taboo subjects in the world, illegal in most countries frowned on in almost every society. But a German government ethics committee has said that incest should be made legal in the country. Now this follows a court case in which a brother and sister gave birth to four

3:04:34 children. Now, the brother in that relationship has been sentenced to more than three years in prison a sentence that's being upheld by the European Court of Human Rights however the ethics committee say they're having laws against incest is an unacceptable intrusion into the rights of sexual self-determination. Woo! Sexual self determination? That's a new one They're gonna push this through because there's just not enough inbreeding amongst the Royals I guess, you know if you're going to have LGBTQQIAAP and everybody can marry anything and have relationships. Why not? Is that is that isn't that a part of that's logical that I don't know how logical it is very logical in sexual self-determination That's a big deal. Yeah, yeah. And then there are other things like there are some people who say, well, we should be able to get married because we're gay.

3:05:35 Can you play them just the beginning of this clip on how to get away with murder where she says the gay scene and see if The word and just as he uses the curse word the f-word mm-hmm on network television ABC by the way, okay? Tell me if that's what you hear too because I also couldn't be saying something else makers Manhattan two chariots So, you know Your co-workers seem to want a show so just say the word and we can start making out Ignore them. I just don't talk to guys at bars that often. Let's see. Yes You guys I didn't know I didn't hear it. He says I don't fuck the guys of bars Play that back on those. I think he said I'll talk two guys in bars Okay

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Harrison Bergeron, Kurt Vonnegut and Equality

The short story "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. is discussed as a metaphor for modern societal trends toward forced equality. In the story, the "Handicapper General" ensures no one is smarter, better looking, or stronger than anyone else by using physical and mental handicaps. The hosts suggest this dystopian vision is becoming increasingly relevant in the current political and cultural climate.

kurt vonnegut· harrison bergeron· equality· handicapper general· dystopia

3:06:24 Sounds like, doesn't sound like it to me. No sounds like your brain is somewhere else! I would like to give everybody a little homework assignment before we get out of here...I would like you to read and have a copy in the show notes isn't it's very short story by Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Harrison Bergeron are you familiar with this story John? no Wow. Of all people, I would have expected you to know this. I never lie...I can't...I have trouble reading Vonnegut that's the only reason It's so short and i don't think i've ever read any Vonnegut ever in my life? Yeah, it's just his structure is just...yeah..i just don't enjoy it Okay then uh... But i'll read it! I can read if its short You can accompany me and i could just give you a little bit and you may understand where it's going with this yeah are you gonna come for me? Oh oh oh! I see what your saying

3:07:21 The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law they were equal every which way! Nobody was smarter than anybody else nobody was better looking than anybody else Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th and 213th Amendments of the Constitution and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General." Some things about living still weren't right though. April, for instance, still drove people crazy but not being springtime and it was in that clammy month that the HG men took George and Hazel Bergeron's 14-year old son Harrison away

3:08:11 George, while his intelligence was way above normal had a little mental handicap radio in his ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times It was tuned to a government transmitter Every 20 seconds or so the transmitter would send out some sharp noise that keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains Alright that's enough That's enough That's enough This is very funny story where And I'll read it. It sounds good where this is where we're all headed so in To make everybody equal if you're too smart, you have a little transmitter which blasts something in your ear So you just try to answer the questions If you're too good-looking then you have to wear a mask get punched in the nose and if you're Photoshopped and if you're too fast too athletic then you have to wear weight belts or

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Lada Vesta Sport, 500 Horsepower Russian Car

AvtoVAZ president Bo Anderson announced that a sport version of the Lada Vesta, featuring 500 horsepower, will soon go on sale. The car is slated to compete in the World Touring Car Championship with British drivers. The segment mocks the idea of a high-performance Lada, suggesting the chassis might separate from the body at such high power levels.

lada· lada vesta· bo anderson· moscow· touring car championship

3:09:01 It's a good story and I think people... It's totally fair. And it is totally fair, and I think people should uh oops that's the wrong one i think people should have one last thing then oh this is the scariest story of the day scariest story of the day This should frighten everybody! This is the Lada in the news story After VAS president Bo Anderson announced that the sport version of the Lada Vesta, first unveiled at the Moscow International Automobile Salon last month will go on sale to the public soon. The car which packs 500 horses under the bonnet would take part in the World Touring Car Championship next year piloted by British drivers Rob Hough and James Thompson. A LADA with five hundred horsepower!

3:09:44 Way I think the chassis would separate from the body This is dangerous That's not good Scary good one. Good one good one all right good All right, everybody I'm out of here yeah You're not doing Twitter day are you do new? I'm good oh Good miss Mickey coming back Thursday, but that'll be after the show. I'm very happy about that my estranged wife Yes, well glad you get glad you two are getting back together

3:10:23 Well, that's another cover you should be should be you should report the story and you could do a whole Photoshop I could be making it made lots of money off. We've talked about this yeah You don't seem to ever really you know get on the stick exploiting my friend Love it because we couldn't split the proceeds That would be oh bad So All right, everybody. Thank you very much for being with us. Remember to support us at Dvorak dot org slash N A we do need the support to continue it's extremely important I hope he found some value give us some value in return coming to you from FEMA region six here in the capital of the drone star state In The Morning! I'm Adam Rippa And from FEMA re- You know, I forgot my FEMA region I think is nine Yeah yeah well coming from FEMA Region 9 also known as Northern Silicon Valley and The Greater West I'm John C. Dvorak

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