1:44:02 Well, here's what the I've been list obviously you know. I think we're like the only two guys and maybe Andrew or wait stop Do you think do you think the timing of the fappening has anything to do with this? Oh yeah Yeah, I think so too good one a good one just yeah, I just thought about it Besides the two of us and Orlowski, and maybe a few others that are either sys admins and know what they're talking about or deep network analysts. Any network admin knows this is bullcrap to start with but they don't have much of a voice But when you hear it being argued on one of the shows like any one of the twit broadcasts where they discuss this
1:44:43 and you bring up the lawful content thing, whoever it is. It doesn't have to be anybody in particular because everybody's all in on this. They all lament that yeah I know it says disconcertingly that says that but net neutrality so important because of then they have their rationale which is that all bits should be equal and here's one thing I think I would like to get into this debate again cause this what I'm throwing at people now Listen up, listen up people. I want you to be the promoting this... Can i be an all-in guy? You're the all in guy with all bits and packets are equal. Okay but what is my position in life what am I doing? Bro, your just a douchebag working at a company that really don't have much technical expertise. Well come on, come on! I gotta give me a like... You're CEO of a bolt company that makes bolts Yes okay thank you And you've heard it but keep up with
1:45:39 broadcast and you are going to argue that all packets have to be equal. I can't wait, i can't wait by the way my name is Ben, I run the Acme Bolt company yes ben! I am so looking forward right? To the iPhone 6 It's going to be so awesome, right? Let's get back on track here and talk about net neutrality. Oh yes hello! Yes oh you're a net neutrality oh wow do we need this I am so sick and tired of companies just getting the fast lane into stuff please i'm trying to sell bolts here just because some guy who has hollywood movies has more money now my website is gonna slow down
1:46:18 So you think that, what is your position? I'm the CEO of this company. No, I'm not talking about your position on net neutrality are you talking about packets being equal? You think everybody's got five... Yes! The essence excuse me Mr. Dvorak the essence of the internet was that everything is equal all It doesn't matter what you're doing, where you're coming from. This is how it was set up. This is what Tim Berners-Lee who I have met at a mixer...Tim Berners Lee meant this to be all things equal and may I point out Mr. Dvorak, Mr Smarty Pants? You were wrong about the mouse! Now let's take this net neutrality thing and look at these packets being equal process so you're telling me that for example if you didn't know this because you like YouTube
1:47:09 Netflix. Well, yeah most systems except Comcast I might add but in most systems they use what's called a Google Global Cash, and that is installed at the ISPs in the head office right there. Boom! Right with the main server. Hold on a second...CashMash all I know is we need to have our YouTube videos with our explanatory video showing how the bolts go into the nuts We need them to be equal equal I say to Netflix Why does Netflix get some kind of better deal than we do just because I have money just because we can't afford it. I feel that This is my these are human rights. It has a device
1:47:54 a network appliance that they give to free, to all the ISPs. To put in the office right by the servers hook right to the line so when you make a request for a Netflix movie it doesn't actually go to Netflix it goes right off the off the 100 terabytes that are sitting there and you get fed directly So what...so in terms of Yes, but I'm not listen. I don't stop you can what you're already made it full of yourself? I am Ben the bolt guy and I cannot afford to have some kind of device. I'm selling bolts here I use people to access my website quickly. I You know didn't even let me do my argument Ben I'm listening Here's the problem with packets being equal if you want to watch a movie from voodoo
1:48:45 And you want to watch a movie from Netflix. This is not part of the deal that they did with Comcast, because Comcast would not put these devices in. But if you have any other ISP, Netflix will have one of these devices because they're free! They give them to them free. It's got 100 terabyte drives and network appliances right there right there on the line. So when you request a movie from Netflix, it comes directly off this box straight to you. There's no packets coming from Netflix if you ask for a movie from Vudu that ISP has to go to voodoo and asked for the movie and move all the data all away did themselves And then to you this is not in equal packet situation There's no chance that packets are going to be equal if you have netflix throwing these devices out there by them
1:49:29 thousands and the same with the Google global cash. And Akamai has these things, everybody uses these things are used all over the place and they're selectively chosen by the various ISPs that this what you can do get rid of all these things which would just that would slow down the internet. Can I make? Can I respond now as Ben go ahead I, you are making my point for me. We cannot afford to put free boxes with more... we need these boxes need to go out! Net neutrality is about not letting anyone have any kind of advantage because we can't afford boxes so this should be illegal there should be no boxes from Netflix free or not because we can't afford it they can't afford it
1:50:16 I'm all on that actually would have to be the argument you'd have to take and this is what they will do John all these boxes in other words your YouTube's are gonna come through slow instead of fast everything is going to slow down it because you're gonna get rid of these box. These boxes are a way of speeding things up but if you looked at them objectively, I don't know...I've talked to a bunch of guys about this If you look at him objectively this is not packet equality Nobody talks about these boxes. No So the only problem with your argument, which I think needs a little refining is that it is on deaf ears. These people who are they thinking black people white people they're not thinking actual technology they're thinking American Indians getting shafted they're thinking yeah seriously it's like black people white people this is how they think of packet this would the general in America the population has been trained
1:51:15 to think in these terms. So you have two options, three options the way I see it You can try your argument which of course is correct! I mean i'm just being an idiot which you're going to run into The second one as you can say if you vote for net neutrality puppies will die that might work or douchebag nothing else is gonna work John they don't care they will not understand The internet is a magic box. It's a little fan thingy at the top of their screen, which has like a little reception thing and people have no idea where it comes from and as you pointed out astutely all of the revolution comes down to Netflix and Facebook and for however long we can do this show until we are taken off the air and or physically put into jail? Well there's that