Episode 641 · Thursday, 7 August 2014

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A massive federal database failure strands travelers worldwide as the administration pivots its economic hitman strategy toward Africa to challenge Chinese resource dominance.

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About this episode

The U.S. State Department faces a massive global crisis as a software glitch in the Consular Consolidated Database halts visa processing for hundreds of thousands of travelers. Secretary of State John Kerry and President Barack Obama are simultaneously navigating the U.S.-Africa Leaders Summit in Washington, where the administration is attempting to counter Chinese and Russian influence through new peacekeeping forces and economic investment.

Dr. Anthony Fauci and the National Institute of Health are under scrutiny regarding the ethics of the experimental Ebola drug ZMapp and existing antiviral patents as the outbreak worsens in West Africa. Meanwhile, the World Health Organization evaluates the crisis while the NYPD conducts large-scale anthrax drills in New York City. Domestically, the Federal Reserve Bank in Houston is characterized as a high-security charade, and the New York Times faces criticism for its native advertising partnerships with Goldman Sachs and Intel.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the linguistic tics of Hillary Clinton supporters and the semantic differences between weird and odd. The duo also explores the theory of Jihadi Disneyland and the alleged Mossad origins of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi while questioning the actual interception rates of Raytheon's Iron Dome defense system.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 641 Introduction, Server Transitions

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 641 of the No Agenda Show from their respective locations in Austin and Silicon Valley. They discuss technical difficulties involving a WordPress error on the stream and a transition between servers. The hosts reflect on the production process and the "642 pipeline" concept.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· south austin· fema region 6· drone star state· wordpress error

00:00 It's all corrupt. Sorry! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday August 7th 2014 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination epos sold 641 This is no agenda Tracking government glitches across Gitmo nation from the South Austin safe house in FEMA region 6 and the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we can pronounce episode on John C. Dvorak We could do it over. Should we be cussing people? Yeah, we could do it over. Cussing me out! Where's the fun in that?! Well, it was fun... I was going to say here are the first words I wanted to say after our opening was, I love you John and now I just am taking it all back. I don't want to say that. That is good for you. You've ruined them all. I'm glad! Who needs that aggravation!? I got enough on my plate

00:57 Oh man, I... You wanna start it? You want to hit it over again? No! No. I'm keeping it now and I love it now It's the ugly things that are actually the best It's the stuff that never made on MTV that was the best It should be known we could do it over if we wanted And we have done the beginning over a couple times Yeah when you messed up No, no sometimes like this the deck would stop. Oh yeah stop Yeah anything can happen today and know agenda stream calm that has some WordPress error So it's we've been in this long transition of servers and everything in void zero is basically even doing everything And this is like zeros our hero who made another rhyme

01:40 And this is one of those last things like, oh yeah we got to do that. Yeah we'll do that and then...yeah so we gotta make sure we do that and then of course something breaks you're like shit! We should have done that it's very typical I didn't say barely slept last night i have to admit right up front okay That's why your grumpy Oh not grumpy no in fact You've just twice already the show just began I'm very excited because last night was one of those moments where All the things now it's not quite like a six four two pipeline, but in fact not at all like that But all the things connected for me in the universe We're gonna call that from us six four to pipeline six four to pipeline. No I'm sorry It was that's not the episode number there wasn't but I liked it I liked this 642 pipeline and people go back to 642 There'll be nothing about pipelines in it and 6 4 2 hasn't even happened yet That would be some we on 6 4 1 yeah

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Global Entry Enrollment, Mickey Curry Secondary Screening

Adam Curry describes a road trip to Houston to enroll his wife, Mickey, in the Global Entry program to avoid repeated secondary screenings at airports. The process requires extensive documentation and an interview at an international arrivals enrollment center. Curry notes the redundancy of the information requested compared to previous green card applications.

global entry· resident alien· green card· secondary screening· goes· houston· enrollment center

02:36 May was four six two four sixty But before that John we miss Mickey and I had a little road trip that. I want to talk about briefly To Houston Wow you went to use all the way to Houston You need a special pass don't you from Austin to get to into? Houston isn't there some like some legal restrictions on Austonians well interesting you mentioned that we went there specifically for a pass As you know, my darling wife who is a resident alien and has a green card. She's in the database with a flag and whenever she re-enters the country she is always sent to the fish tank

03:23 to secondary screening and then Depending on how? Looks of her she's an obvious suicide And they always say the same thing oh, yes a flag you know we can't we can't remove it The only way to remove it is to become a member of global entry. Oh oh oh You went to bow yeah You know, I've signed up for and I just keep forgetting to go to the city to get my thing. And then they say yeah you haven't come in... Then they cancel me and have to start over! And you probably have to pay your 140 bucks all over again Tell me about it. It's a scam They never email you telling when your application is ready No no no, they specifically say keep checking back Hit refresh So i did this and its very annoying process

04:19 Moreover, which is a word everyone seems to be using these days. It is the exact same information I've already entered at least five times in thousands of dollars worth of documents for her resident alien card known as the green card which consists of the last five addresses that you know employers and not just for her but also for me they're trying to trip you up Well, we'll get to that. Oh! And I decided that for science and research for this show, I would also sign up for the global entry and become a part of the theater...to see how this worked

04:59 And so you have to make an appointment and they're, there's...they have a calendar. It's I mean it's so ludicrous the web-based system they have for GOES, G O E S Global Entry System. And it's just... Global overseas entry system? Yeah could be. Goes. You can do this at certain airports around the country. Austin actually all you can also do this interview as they call in Austin, but it wasn't available until November. And of course we're traveling end of August-September for my birthday to the Netherlands so we really wanted to get this done and so Houston was the alternative now for all of the annoyance of the signup system and you waiting to be conditionally approved and then you know of course having all the right documentation We've also I've been through this with the interview

05:58 for a green card, we have to have proof of address and utility bills and a copy of the lease. And of course we'd moved since I did all this entry stuff." So listen, we did not move! We still live here which of course makes Mickey nervous he's like oh i don't want mess up so they're wrong because she's used to the fascists in Europe well so we arrive International arrivals is where they have the interrogation center. I think it's called enrollment Center, but to me It's it I read in terrorists what his interrogation centers What it is and this is where you do this an interview for the global entry also And I didn't know that you are also then approved for pre-check

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Global Entry Interview, TSA Pre-Check Theater

The enrollment process includes watching a safety video about customs regulations and a brief interview with Customs and Border Protection officers. Adam Curry recounts a friendly interaction with an officer who recognized him from his MTV days. Despite a system flag on Mickey's record, both receive approval emails shortly after the interview.

trusted traveler· tsa pre-check· goes· logitech webcam· ronnie james dio· mtv· enrollment center

06:43 Yeah, no that's the reason yeah. So you see a trusted traveler. That's the only reason to get it. Trusted traveler program. Yeah so we now we're early and We left right away on time To make sure and were probably about half an hour early And where I would show up in there's three guys in a big office space offices is a big word three desks You know It's kind of like him like a Silicon Valley startup really And there's three officers, and there's one guy in a little office. And then there's an office next to him has a hand-printed sign that says amphitheater. What? Yeah, amphitheater A guy holding a sign that says amphitheatre No no, printed signs stuck on this second office wall Oh okay They say well you're here for the interview I said yeah we're together We're married so now you gotta do it by time Okay well your early than you can watch the video first

07:36 This was almost like at the gun range. We have to watch the safety video, and it's like- And I swear to God... And I'm doing this to the good lord. This was the stupidest video i've ever seen Global entry system and it shows you how to insert your passport into the system But then, you still need to follow all rules and regulations! And they show a-an Asian guy whose suitcase is being opened by a customs border um... uh protection officer and he brings out a bag of-a plastic bag of six apples You must adhere to all rules! And this is shown over and over again. The big violation is the guy, it's the Asian guy with the apples for some reason... Okay this is rather disturbing and it's 10 minutes in you know here's how it works and you type and you type in your name and you put your fingerprints on the scanner like are we totally morons? Okay we've seen the amphitheater theater movie

08:35 And then, actually these guys are all kind of nice. They're kind of joking around it's like hey and the guy in the back says hey you come over here I'll do you and this gal will do your wife But they're kind of fun. And this guy, I decided to get into it with him and said do you need proof of address? He says no, no, no, no, I just need your driver's license and your passport. He's not even looking at me he's not evaluating me! Then takes a picture with the Logitech webcam, that drill... Of course all ten fingers on the plate. Then he's like yeah so media technology what are ya doing?! This is the interview I guess. What exactly is that!?

09:12 I say, um you listen to podcasts? No man. I still use CDs Okay well and see you know they kind of co-invented this thing called podcasting no kidding! Oh man yeah, I love listening to old anything 80s music I listened to I said Yeah how old are you? 40 48 See ya, you ever watch MTV? Aw man I did it when they played videos! And then all of a sudden you see him looking at me looking at the name like i'll get this guy and then you know bingo boom shakalaka he makes the connection. I think he's going to shit himself He's like Ronnie James Dio man I love those guys White Snake oh yeah Oh man Robert Patton came through and just is on and on and on...He's jumping up and down this guy is so happy

10:00 And it's fun. I'm enjoying myself, so this is great! This global entry is so easy we just sit here because we've done 20 years of time and we're just happy you know? Just have to have a set schedule and he's basically telling me that this theater But in a fun kind of way, and we're just talking about books from different rockers who have done their autobiographies. And while walking out we're chatting you know? We're talking about stuff and Mickey's there now. Mickey of course because I guess of the flag or whatever... Or because she is not a passport holder but a resident alien green card holder The system said uh you know you will be notified if you've been approved

10:45 And so this one guy is saying, you know, cause we're I'm approved. I'm good in the case of all they still have to call me she's worried of course as a mind like oh, we're not going to get some kind of thing that pops up and the guy who would interviewed means like trust me We just gotta say that your approved your approved is good You're in the new database worry about it and the other guys are well We have to say because sometimes it pops up and this guy's now my buddy for uh for 30 years No, let's bullcrap your approved the system is bogus I'm not kidding. And of course, it's just a misspoke and then five minutes later being there's an email Mickey's approved just like he promised

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

US Visa Database Glitch, Consular Consolidated Database Outage

A major software glitch in the U.S. State Department's Consular Consolidated Database has halted visa processing for hundreds of thousands of travelers globally. The outage, which began around July 20, 2014, followed a software update to the Oracle-based system. Passports remain stuck at embassies, affecting students, athletes, and business professionals.

oracle database· state department· bureau of consular affairs· visa glitch· lois lerner· passports

11:25 So this whole thing is really you get moved from one database to the other and it's...and you're good to go. And it's not connected in any way whatsoever with immigration, which you'd think Customs Border Protection would have some of that I don't know immigration information in their database? It's too much work! Well so this brings me- You know the big dirty secret of data processing and big data is that you can't make these things talk to each other There's always some foul up. Well, this brings impossible... This brings me to our lunch which we had with our buddy from the uh oh we always say the consul just to make it easy but he is that from the Dutch or the Netherlands business support office and these are the guys who would always come to Austin with a Consul General that we hang out with and will have dinners and make them pay for it and they're yelling you know kraut at the German house remember those guys? Oh yeah crazy guys

12:18 I already knew this, but i brought it up with him. For three weeks now the US visa immigration database which of course in no way is connected to the global entry database has had a glitch And there are hundreds of thousands of people who not only cannot get their visas to come into the United States, and I'm thinking students is the big one. Of course classes are starting We have professional sports players entire soccer teams that have not been able to travel but worse Their passports are at the embassy because that's how it works you send your passport or you hand it to them and then they'll mail it back To you with the appropriate visa

12:58 Hundreds of thousands of people have not... What? Yes, and this is the most under-reported news everywhere. This is not reported at all! Well it is. Well it is on The No Agenda Show. Well let me give you NPR's way of reporting it and so again this is the Visa database and it's been essentially non-usable for three weeks. Hundreds of thousands of people are stranded, not able to travel. NPR the U.S State Department's global database for processing visas and passports is experiencing problems that could cause delays from millions of people around the world who are awaiting travel documents. US database glitch

13:37 There it is. Unspecified glitches in the department's consular consolidated database have resulted in significant performance issues, including outages in the processing of applications for passports visas and reports of Americans born abroad since Saturday." And this is July 24th so this is you know... This is the only report I've really seen from some serious mainstream media. And again, I will say it is inappropriate and it's just not okay for journalism in 2014 to talk about these types of huge issues as glitches or outages! Do some real work people this is an Oracle database and some...and I think

14:33 Some day in three weeks John something very something horrible went wrong. Oh, yeah I know this is a three weeks of a doubt database like that down for three weeks Somebody did something to it. Yeah, I think it's probably half destroyed They're probably trying to rebuild it from archives. I think that's the problem you write is that they don't have if a full Snapshot and so they are indeed rebuilding it and that could take that could take more that go take months Yeah, if they don't have whoever was doing the... Well we already know that there's backup issues in the federal government. We had it with the email situation. It may not be a coincidence that Lois Lerner's email was lost and they had to recreate it from archives instead of from backups. Air quotes yes. Here is a... Lost air quotes. The real problem emerged after Bureau of Consular Affairs updated oh here we go

15:30 This is AP. The real problems emerged after the Bureau of Consular Affairs updated the software for the Oracle-based consular consolidated database on July 20th, as has been recommended by the operating company. Quote... We patched it to try and address the issue! However our database began experiencing performance issues shortly after maintenance was performed. Oh, nothing was broken so we fixed it We believe the root cause of the problem was a combination of software optimization and hardware compatibility issues. Oh man... We believe there was no malicious intent, it's hardware and software issues that we are working on to fix said a dude named Ben This is a disaster!

16:20 And so the sort of thing is bigger than a lot of news media, of course a bunch of idiots They don't know what to be honest about it tech reporting is down the tubes and you know So nobody can report about it from that perspective and regular news guys. Don't know anything about Tech Well if Oracle had a phone which is fine If Oracle had a phone out then at least they could have tied it into the new phone Reporting and then it would have been a story But yes, this is a huge issue. Completely underreported. People are stuck! Imagine your passport is also no longer in your possession it's at the consulate. Well people should be warned out there if they want to get a visa to wait till this blows over they won't have a passport at all. My advice is just go to Canada and

17:09 Come in through one of the northern entries. Is there no, aren't there border patrols up there? The northern entry? Some of the smaller entries don't have a computer and just kind of waltz in well yeah but you still need... I don't think ESTA is a problem that's probably easy so this is the tourist stuff. Well maybe she should sneak into Mexico it sounds to me seems like that's the way to go these days! Go to Mexico come in with the kids Drop the kids off. Drop the kids off in a merry way! So Gerard, who is running the Netherlands Business Support Office that we had lunch with he said you know... You have no idea

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Federal Reserve Bank Houston, Monetary Charade Simulation

Adam Curry tours the Federal Reserve building in Houston, describing the high-security environment as a theatrical performance. He observes workers counting pallets of cash behind glass and views a video simulation of the vault controlled by a joystick. The experience is characterized as a "charade" designed to maintain public belief in the currency's value.

federal reserve· houston· vault· charade· simulation· pallets· money counting

17:52 Businesses that are doing business, there are entire business deals that cannot be done. There's so much stuff but particularly education it's really the... and from all over the world who want to have new semesters starting getting their stuff ready to go they can't start! And of course I was like oh poor universities they're gonna lose on the money They're not gonna lose the money, it's not their fault. The university will probably have something that says hey its not our fault you couldn't get in here we are keeping the money. Read the fine print here. And then one other lovely thing about our visit, Gerard office, the Netherlands business support office is located in the Federal Reserve building in Houston and he said would you like a tour? Oh!

18:39 And you would say and the likelihood of you saying yes was quite high, I'm assuming. I would say so! Of course it's total bullcrap security he didn't... He called some guy yeah i'm bringing some people over I don't have to register him do I? Nah, don't worry about it we're walking through doors people buzzing us through everything I'm sure you know he's well known but there was no... We got a little plastic badge. You could've had a gun to his back I'm taking all the money. There's nothing in the Federal Reserve building that you think is worth anything." It's better than that, it's better than that! This is such a beautiful charade or charade which of course has to be upheld in order for people to believe in the idea that this money is real

19:25 And we bumped into the guy who's running something and Gerard said, oh do you have time for a quick little tour? You can go to the Federal Reserve and get a tour. But it was basically closed. The guy says yeah let me show ya! So he takes us over to this viewing room...and it's like Disney with the animatronics where you see those people going eek-eek with their jerky motions doing things behind the glass. There are four people there and there are pallets of money bound, you know, oh that's $45 million there and then she's cleaning the money and he's counting the money. Then...and so it says it's a theater, it's a little play and then he says we have these GMOs, MGVs or automatic

20:09 Yeah, I forgot the acronym. He had some acronym for these robot trucks that then pick up a pallet of money said well you know when one bank deposits it and we have to put it in the other banks deposit and The automatic thing comes and picks it up And so you see these little trucks going into these doors Of course You can't see in the doors But then you move down To the end of the hallway and then they have A video screen...of the vault and your looking IN THE VAULT And you have a joystick and you can then control the camera. Which of course is a complete simulation, it's like Nintendo! There's nothing going on there... The charade is huge John this is so well done So well done I'm like where's the gold? Say uh I'm here on behalf of Angela Merkel she'd like to see her gold please The guy's like hehehe

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Symbols on American Money, Great Seal History

The hosts examine the symbolism of the Great Seal of the United States as found on the dollar bill. Citing Charles Thompson's 1782 description, they discuss the meaning of the unfinished pyramid, the 13 rows of blocks, and the Latin mottos. The "Eye of Providence" is explained as signifying divine favor for the American cause.

great seal· pyramid· all-seeing eye· charles thompson· novus ordo seclorum· providence· virgil

20:57 Yeah, right. Anyway I think Mickey... Another joker! I think Mickey... No, I was very calm because Gerard has been helping Mickey out getting shows you know art shows in Mexico and of course she wants to do something in Houston and he said oh Mickey's got some interesting art have you ever seen her In God We Trust crown-of-thorns piece? yeah so she showed a picture of that to this guy says oh yeah we'd love to buy that we would love to have that stuff on display Well, the price just went up as far as I'm concerned. Price just went up? Yeah this is good! Too much enthusiasm... He said that's very funny because it was essentially this oh sorry i said the word essentially This art piece that Mickey made is a crown of thorns which he did get official from Israel and then she wrapped cut-up dollar bills within God We Trust around the thorns and it's a beautiful presentation in a nice box with a mirror bottom And the guy loved it they have all kinds

21:54 crazy-ass art all over of dollars, of the money, their paper and product. In the Federal Reserve building? Yeah! It's a museum and I got picked up brochure Symbols on American Money Oh nice! You should have picked one for me and mailed it over. I can share this one So what I wanted to know is, you know... What's the deal with the all-seeing eye? Yeah. And they do say something about it It's explained Everything makes sense Let me just tell you what it says here. I got the booklet and wanted to read it to you They also explain how the arrows work with the eagle and its all very symbolic of course What page was that on? Magical

22:45 Of course it's magical. Here we go, to solve the mystery of what these symbols mean we go directly to the source Charles Thompson who presented his written description of The Great Seal to Congress on June 20 1782 So that's all the arrows and then where is the eye thing? The reverse of the great seal features an unfinished pyramid which Thompson states signifies quote strength and duration The pyramid is comprised of 13 rows of building blocks, on the first of which are the Roman numerals representing 1776. The Latin inscription Novus Ordo Seclorum translates to a new order of the ages Thompson explains that this refers to the new form of government influenced by the poetry of Virgil

23:31 He composed this motto himself, writing that signified the beginning of the new American era. At the top of the pyramid is an eye with rays that emanate in all directions above the eye The Latin motto annuit coeptis translates to providence has favored our undertakings which Thompson explains as eludes to the many signal interpositions of Providence in favor of the American cause Which I think means Don't mess with us. Isn't that what it means? Yeah, yeah. We got everything going. It alludes to the many signal interpositions of Providence... That's actually not a bad message! Signal interpositions of Providence. What does that mean? Interpositions of Providence I don't know and i don't know exactly what it means. I can make wild guesses but... In favor of the American cause. Interpositions of providence. Well, I don't know now. It's too complicated for me

24:31 It's only been on the money for a couple hundred years. Well, it's just all symbolism and you know, humumbo-jumbo and... Uh huh yeah And it just doesn't do anything. It doesn't make the bills float in the air The eye of... Ward off devils here look at this! Back off devils! The Eye of Providence So that was nice All an extension of Don't Tread On Me Yeah which is racist You can't have that flag anymore, the snake flag. What is that flag called? I forgot We should know as Confederates. We don't care Everyone knows what it is, the real people know what that is.

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Facebook Mugshot Taunt, Criminal IP Tracking

A wanted criminal in Anne Arundel County, Maryland, was apprehended after taunting police on their Facebook page. The suspect posted comments under his own mugshot bragging that he would not be caught. Authorities used his IP address to track his location and take him into custody.

facebook· mugshot· ip address· anne arundel county· maryland· criminal justice

25:23 Anyway, so it was a nice little trip and it was interesting to learn A. The entire American security system is just stupid Oracle databases of which half of them don't work... I know! I think the Customs and Border Protection database is an access database. I think that just runs on someone's Windows laptop And everything else is it's not connected and it's a huge. It's all theater you're right this theater It's all it's all theater just but also where was the are you a terrorist question? What's the whole what's the point of they had no I checked the blonde box so that took care of that Okay Thank You well on the other complete opposite side of the spectrum There was a funny story on France van cat

26:15 Which is the criminal boasting story, which is a clip. I have a clip okay? Oops sorry hold on second Why did that go wrong way too many clips today? I'm sorry no it's okay. I have even more When the Enrandal County Police in Maryland posted a mugshot of a wanted criminal to their Facebook page, they weren't expecting the man himself to help them track him down. But this is exactly what happened because he thought that he would taunt the police by posting a series of messages under his own mugshot on social networks He bragged you'll never find me but they did as they were able to identify his IP address and track him down

26:53 So, a simple story that it is. Some idiot sees his mugshot on the police department's Facebook page and being a Facebook guy he says you guys cops are dumb you'll never catch me. Neener neener! Just to prove that people don't know how technology even they're completely oblivious to the methodology of the technology basis of the technology that they would be that need to do something like that I think worse when i hear So that's why glitch makes sense to people. Yes, of course keep people dumb but it is an NPR and New York Times Associated Press who are using these terms yeah And the same as well of course Google scanning for a kiddie porn that's good! Of course they should do that

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Google Child Pornography Scanning, Privacy Slippery Slope

The discussion turns to Google's practice of scanning user accounts for illegal content, specifically child pornography. While the hosts acknowledge the illegality of the content, they warn that such surveillance sets a precedent for monitoring "hate speech" or other subjective categories. They suggest this leads to a "boiling frog" scenario for digital privacy.

google· scanning· child pornography· hate speech· account termination· privacy

27:42 If you haven't read it, yes this is illegal content and it cannot be in your possession. There are ramifications but it's always the way things start. You always start by thinking of the children of course because who would deny that? Oh! Won't somebody please think of the children?! But what's next? Hate speech Ah, you know and that's much easier than images by the way. You just scan for... Yeah you don't have to deal with image recognition. Yeah yeah you just scan for words. If you say something negative about LGBTQQIAP some slur it'll be hate speech will be called out and you may be arrested

28:30 could be arrested, you definitely would have your account terminated so there goes your free email. But this is the time...this is the moment where people have to realize it's you're all in and you're going to get voted off the island eventually or you opt out and all I'm seeing is or hearing is people saying oh but of course this is good they should do this! I agree with this, I'm okay with that. Yeah no that's exactly well that's just to be expected. It's very well done It's very well done. And so hard, yeah it is well done. I have another clip... The FBI and Facebook and you know they've been together for a long long time but the FBI in Gmail or Google you know um is it it is the boiling frog thing? I guess you just turn the heat up slowly and no one notices what's going on

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Ohio Algae Bloom, Small Farm Regulation

An algae bloom in Lake Erie has rendered the water supply in Toledo, Ohio, undrinkable. The hosts critique media coverage that blames climate change, arguing instead that the event is being used to push for increased EPA regulation of small farms. They mock an environmental advocate's call to "level the playing field" between human sewage and livestock manure.

lake erie· toledo· phosphorus runoff· epa· clean water act· manure crisis· climate change

29:27 It was a gradual thing. For one thing, you start at the schools and that's the clip I have here just to point this out. You start at the schools and you start indoctrinating early in anybody who has had kids in public school when they come home with some of these cockamamie stories from the teachers. You know, you have to wonder what's going on as part of a larger effort usually to promote big government And the best example of this, I have three clips. Which is the algae bloom, there's a big algae bloom which apparently has made water undrinkable in Toledo or... Yeah, I found this very surprising story

30:09 But I'll let you run with it because of course well, let's go with the beginning one Which is it's all because a global climate change of course defiable sources of pollution like municipal sewage treatment plants and the lake came back to life but in 2011 Lake Erie was hit by the largest algal bloom on record Regulators realized the problem went beyond the known polluters to thousands of individual farms and landowners with phosphorus runoff and leaky septic systems. Climate change made it worse. Now, okay so they've been thinking well they got through the climate change in there gratuitously this is a part of a movement that's been going on in the country

30:52 to regulate out of business small farmers. And we've seen it against the small raw milk dairies, which have to be small by their nature. They can't be big because you lose control of the cleanliness if you get too big so there's a maximum size that has actually been determined by small farmers and some small farmers are really part of the organic produce business, they're part of the raw milk business. They're part of a lot of things but the idea is to push them out of business and easiest way to do that is through regulation which is always a positive thing and here's the algae dummy part one clip I want to set this up this is a woman they brought on from some group some NGO group and she is a millennial dummy

31:40 He's with the Ohio Environmental Council. Christy, talk to us a little bit about this. I mean it seems like there would be a great deal of regulation when we talk about this sort of runoff. Yeah thank you for inviting me so actually actually under the Clean Water Act only the largest of the largest farms are regulated. And many farms in Ohio, and we're talking about livestock here particularly, many of those livestock farms fall right underneath that threshold to be regulated so largely there is very little regulation and when you think about If you just think about livestock farms, sewage is regulated. Human sewage is regulated but manure is not considered a commodity so we need to level the playing field as we heard prior industries

32:29 Wastewater treatment plants are regulated. We need to put in some regulation that says these best management practices are the ones that you need to strive for we know they work there's been a ton of research that have been done over the years Now, level the playing field. Level the playing field between human crap and cow manure. It must be equal! They must be equal. So she's all in on this bullcrap and there was another series of things that was on C-SPAN I don't have clips for today show discussing the over regulation of...in fact there are committees right now going on trying to back off

33:07 on all these laws that they're creating, just 400 laws a year. New federal laws... It's causing a backup in all kinds of judicial systems. And this is all EPA who have very broad powers Right which has to be stopped But to show you how stupid this woman is You can play part two Is she good looking? No, she's a goofy looking. She's a goofy looking hipster. What she's got the big glasses her name again? Christina something and she is a goofy-looking hipster that talks like like a hipster Christina something doesn't really work on do I don't have her name Don't worry about it was you know me I'd left the envelope downstairs again

33:52 Yeah, so you make reference to manure and the absence of regulation on that but that sort of points to the fact it's not just Ohio. There is farmland all over the country with farm animals with manure crisis I mean where else do we see this sort of a problem? That's a great question! Bullshit! No, you got me! That was a three-parter. It was very good. Now it was a good set up John very very good Good payoff, I liked it Du Zipoin. Great question, I like the manure crisis. Manure crisis? That's slipped in there. This woman is full of crap! Yeah well that's what that's the manure crisis right there wow and this is all part of the uh the new religion please you must believe in science that's what you believe in

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

Ebola Outbreak, Experimental Drug ZMapp Ethics

The World Health Organization is convening a panel to discuss the ethics of using the experimental drug ZMapp during the West African Ebola outbreak. Two American healthcare workers received the drug after being transported to Atlanta. President Obama stated that the government must let "science guide" the response to the crisis.

ebola· zmapp· world health organization· atlanta· experimental drugs· medical ethics

34:53 and we were still going to have a science-oriented clip allow so i'm watching the news hour woodruff and they're talking about ebola all the rest of it always there are a whole lot of saying yes that's on the body border as you know they're talking about Ebola and uh... would roughed is a couple things i noticed one is I could follow, this is a kind of an interesting clip of her talking to some guy who was one of the Ebola doctors and he tried to say that they won't let him use experimental drugs while it was in Africa. And she asked the question who's they?

35:41 And then here's his answer, and I'm not going to play the whole thing went on forever. But just play the part of this is news hour Ebola follow-up question. So unfortunately what I was faced with was resistance saying you can't do experiments during an outbreak and that didn't come to pass and unfortunately some my dear colleagues lost their battle to Ebola virus Where was that resistance coming from Dr Gary? Many people say that you shouldn't do research during an outbreak, but I think this outbreak is totally different. It's not in Central Africa it's not so easy to get around a small village. Do you think she does the follow up and says well I asked who there must be somebody not just people? Does she do that?

36:28 Let me think. No, no she doesn't it goes on and on and she just ignores the fact that he didn't answer the question so I would this is She loses a point So then she loses another point on this This is the news hour she stops the presses Oh breaking news essentially until and then listen to this stop the press's moment And tell me how important it really is Atlanta They have received an experimental drug, ZMAP that had never been tested on humans. The drug is extremely limited in supply and today the World Health Organization announced it is convening a medical panel next week to consider the ethics of making ZMAP more widely available

CHAPTER 11 / 43 Discussion

Dr. Anthony Fauci, HIV and Ebola Vaccine Patents

Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institute of Health is scrutinized for his dual role in HIV/AIDS research and the current Ebola response. Adam Curry highlights Fauci's ownership of an overarching IL-2 antiviral patent. The hosts question the connection between his past work on immune deficiency and the rapid development of an Ebola vaccine for human trials.

anthony fauci· nih· hiv· aids· ebola vaccine· il-2 patent· antiviral

37:09 And there is a late-breaking piece of information. President Obama was asked this afternoon as he met with the African leaders who are here meeting at a summit in Washington, he was asked about that drug made available to the two American health care workers He said quote all the information is not in yet on the new Ebola drug. He said we need to let the science guide us Okay, can I take it from here? Oh you got it okay First I will play a clip. Thank you very much for the lead-in and then of course, you did such a phenomenal job two episodes ago of explaining the relation of Ebola to HIV and AIDS and climate change. People, I encourage you go back and listen to that. That was just one of the classic no agenda deconstructions So there's a doctor from the NIH National Institute of Health And he is showing up everywhere He is doing a lot of interviews His name is Fah...

38:05 Hold on a second, I have it here. His name is Fauci and i'm just going to play his pretty much his party line that he's been doing in every single news show with proper care people can do well. I mean this is a very serious disease It has a mortality in some cases up to 90 percent if you give by the way What does that mean? Up to up to ninety percent Is that three percent Well, you know it doesn't actually make any sense if you think about it because here's what you have You have a group of people that have got it and some of them died. That's your mortality rate So how does it go up to 90%? It does I mean it's either gonna be I don't so how can vary its if you've got 2,000 people and and 60 percent of them die at sixty percent If ninety percent of diets ninety percent it doesn't fit. It's not like going up and down constantly unless the sample size is changing

38:57 I suppose there was a group amongst us, the Cote d'Ivoire group that there was maybe 10 people and 90% of them died. I don't know! It doesn't mean anything it's just like 97%. That would be the point yes and that to me...that was kind of my tip off like hold on a second This is the guy who's speaking on behalf of the National Institute of Health and I started to look into him, but we'll listen to the rest of what he had to say. But when you say stuff like this, like the science is in consensus up to 90% words matter people that is bullcrap percent if you give good care to individuals replenish their fluids make sure that their organ systems are functioning well they can do well We're very encouraged by the fact that Dr Brantley was able to get here

39:42 And at this point I'm thinking he talks kind of like a crook. You know what i mean? Like yeah, at this point Dr Brantley could get here we got it all under control you give the guy some fluids. He's now apparently recuperating in the sense of having his vital signs monitored and making sure that he does get a complete recovery which we're all hoping for. And the fact that he was walking doctor does that say anything to you about how he's doing? Yeah like is bogus That is very important. Everyone saw that on TV, him getting out with some assistance from the ambulance The fact that he's able to walk into the hospital is a very good sign It seems like maybe the next turn in all of this Is you guys have a vaccine on humans that you'll start testing in the next month What is the latest on this vaccine? Because so many people have heard no cure for so long Yes! And your getting to my point Again people need to understand the difference between treatment and a vaccine What I was talking about

40:34 Which we have really some very favorable results on is a vaccine to prevent infection and this would be very relevant to health care providers Who put themselves at high risk in taking care of individuals? Yeah tested it in monkeys. It was really good. It protects monkeys completely from challenge Ebola they don't ebolas here for the monkeys get say hey with them monkeys. And they don't die, whereas unvaccinated monkeys all do screw the monkeys are going to start human trials in September of in normal volunteers and that if that looks good by January we should be able to scale up in its production scale up in his production what this sounds very vaguely familiar to me

41:15 Sounds a lot like the swine flu virus scaling up production all of this stuff very vague type of talk. So looking at this guy Anthony Fauci, F-A-U-C-I Very important guy in the HIV AIDS medical circles And he, so I'm reading from the Wikipedia's this is kind of where i got on the trail. This part of my story is not complete and I'll have to finish this on Sunday. Fauci has made a number basic scientific observations that contribute to the current understanding of the regulation of human immune response and it recognized for delineating mechanisms whereby immune suppressive agents adapt to human immune response

42:00 He has developed therapies for formerly fatal diseases such as polyarteritis nodosa, Wagener's granulomotus or whatever that is. Here he made influential contributions to the understanding of how HIV destroys the body's defenses leading to the progression to AIDS." So very important guy in the HIV-AIDS immune deficiencies world And he holds a patent, and this is the thing that I'm going very deep on. If you Google this guy and you go deep there's a lot of people who are calling this guy a crook... it's a scam So the patent is the IL-2 antiviral patent Somehow this patent which he holds, and I guess is licensed to certain pharmaceuticals

42:52 is kind of like an overarching patent for all immune deficiency type diseases or viruses, or whatever you would call them. I'm not a medical doctor... Is this the patent that takes on any virus and then chops it off at the legs symbolically? I believe so! And so it's a general antiviral? Yes, yes anti-virus. It's overarching and he was a big part What was the drug that everyone was actually dying from? The cancer drug. There's a couple of them. Well, there was the one that was also... Oh man I'm sorry! It's okay hard to do these things though well and so i'm bringing this up because we have a lot of doctors who listen to the show and are co-producing the show And there are fora aplenty on the internet about this guy and his patent and people really despise him for it and he's got huge salary at NIH How do you spell his name again? F A U C I

43:56 F-A-U-C-I. Very super, super elite guy and he pops up in this conversation and now I'm connecting what you said about HIV and AIDS and connecting that to Ebola and then this guy... And it's all... He is working on the vaccines, it works in the monkeys. Yeah well it seems screwy that this guy who was an HIV expert would be involved in Ebola unless there was something weird going on. Exactly! Exactly. So while I'm researching that then all of a sudden it all comes together boom actually not boom Okay, no, okay. I'm all ears Bingo Out of the heavens there was a very interesting Little thing going on little party that happened in in Washington DC Did you happen to notice this? No, I was not in partying mood

CHAPTER 12 / 43 Discussion

US-Africa Leaders Summit, Dictators at the White House

The State Department hosted a summit in Washington D.C. for African leaders, including several controversial dictators. Adam Curry critiques the "theater" of the event, noting the extravagant attire of leaders from Gambia and Cameroon. He also observes that President Obama appeared disheveled and ill-fitted in official photographs with the visiting dignitaries.

state department· barack obama· africa summit· equatorial guinea· gambia· cameroon· michelle obama

44:55 There was a summit organized by the State Department and kind of hosted by the President. You're talking about the African thing? Yes, sir! Of course I noticed that's where all the action was... Well where has all this Ebola taken place? Thank you Africa Now we have all the Presidents and royalty which will laugh about in a moment coming from Africa, all the African countries showing up. We're handing out billions of dollars we're making promises I'm pretty sure that there's a connection to be made with the Ebola virus because of course we are sending healthcare people and it is very important to help Africa and maybe you guys better play along or send some freaking Ebola to your house Remember Harf said the Ebola attack

45:48 I think the coincidence of the Ebola virus and it's with we have the OJ, there's the ambulances. The OJ shot at the ambulance is driving down the highway. Oh, there's a doctor! We may have vaccine. Hello African presidents! Hello! I want you to go to John, following URL Itm.im slash Africa. Itm dot i-n? I-M, I-M. I-M slash Africa. Oh slash Africa. That is a forwarding link to the mail online. Itm dot im slash Africa. Um... you have it? It should go to a daily mail page

46:30 Yeah, Daily Mail. So the article is about how the White House opened its doors to some of Africa's most evil dictators and homophobes which of course is true that you know these people kill gays but I just wanted to show you the lunacy of these people, of these African leaders so scroll down first you see the Equatorial Guinea president with his wife Yeah, just look at the remember these people you know they're president but there they dress and act like their Queen and King so here's his Why are the Marines saluting these two people? Are they part of the military, US military? No. This is all part of the theater that... So we had to have this because of course you want to get rid of the Chinas and we'll get to that in a moment but here are all these people coming into the White House and there's this woman in the big blue dress now look at the next one! This actually is okay President Blasey of where are they from Borkina Faso

47:27 The all these people have bloody coups and you know, they have billions of dollars. They've got 747 custom interior So his wife has a yellow outfit but looking down next the president of Cameroon and his wife she is complete pink Yeah, she looks like she should be on a chorus line in a Brazilian production of some sort. That is just outrageous what she's wearing! Now we scroll down... She also towers over this midget And then we have Angolan president Jose Eduardo dos Santos who isn't even African I don't know it's like some Chinese guy? He's in Japan so he's not part- This is not a picture taken at the event Ah okay thank you now next this is my favorite

48:09 This is Gambia Yaya Jeme. He is the president of the President of Gambia, Yaya Jeme. Now look at, now you scroll down and he's with the president. You see a picture of him with the president. Now he is wearing I think he has the sheets from the Lincoln bedroom that he took. And if you are an African leader... ...you can carry sticks and beads and he's shaking hands with President Obama He's holding his wallet because something is about to be inserted but look at this stick that he's holding! Here's what I think So this guy, he's talking, hanging out with hi buddies they're on the jet

48:49 Yeah, flying to DC. You know they're gonna go get a couple billion dollars of which they'll pill for most he says hey I got a great idea but i'm going to throw on these sheets and you see this butt plug? I'm gonna put it on the stick and hold it right next to the president and He'll be laughing Look at that thing! It's a butt plug on his stick It's impossible. I mean, what does this signify? Is this the talking stick or... This is outrageous theater! Then if you scroll down you'll see the president And his part of the theater is to hold up his glass there and a toast with the golden eagle in front of him. Meanwhile, you know I got all this toasting but when you get down to the Rwandan president of all the places you think are crude they look like they just stepped out of something...out of a show in Paris They look terrific! This guy he doesn't look great He looks pretty crappy But his wife

49:47 So this guy, he's got the 747. He's got the billions of dollars. He's got a supermodel! Give me one of those Iman things... yeah that's the one. He's got a supermodel Believe me this guy would never get her in a million years Now scroll down. Here's good luck Jonathan, right? Now look at the picture of the president and first lady in Good Luck Jonathan. Good luck Jonathan has gold braids on his dress with that stupid hat and a metal... he's pinned a medal on himself I got a medal! You've got a medal! Now let's just look at the composition of this picture because i really spent some time deconstructing this event This is not the President's event

50:25 State Department's event and they and these two the president first lady were just brought in to do some photos So look at his suit. Did he sleep in that thing? That is the worst It is ill-fitting. You know you're talking about Obama? Yeah, look at his suit! You gotta put a link to the show notes into this because... Of course I have it. ...you had very good observation about the suit. And look at Michelle she looks horrendous She's got her slave bangle armbands on really inappropriate but who came up with this setting and this is where they took all the pictures with the flowers and the door in the background Who is running this show? The State Department, Kerry. And they're making him look as bad as possible

51:07 And he took pictures with everybody there. If you scroll down, you'll see more of that Okay Now let's play his little clip Yeah and in fact there is another picture we've... this guy from Kenya and he's, you're right Obama looks like this does not look like the slick Obama we're used to seeing. Not being run by- He looks like he rolled out of bed! You're right it was just taking a nap And he was just rolled out to shake hands but did a four minute speech I'm very toast which i took care of What is George Bush doing there? Well he owns Africa Are you kidding me the Bushes please they own so much

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

Joe Biden, Nation of Africa Gaffe

Vice President Joe Biden referred to Africa as a "nation" during the US-Africa Leaders Summit. The hosts compare this gaffe to famous slips by Dan Quayle. They discuss the lack of mainstream media criticism regarding Biden's geographical error while noting the strategic importance of the summit in countering Russian and Chinese influence.

joe biden· gaffe· nation of africa· dan quayle· vice president· africa summit

51:48 So then they did the big group picture, all very uncomfortable. Everyone's waving and okay great...and this is going to lead to what we all know it's a beautiful...the timing is beautiful We've got Russia, we're squeezing Russia with by squeezing Russia were pushing China back Bingo boom we bring in everybody from Africa. We threaten them with the Ebola and we're gonna give you some money and play along nicely again, this is a Neocon move this has very little to do with the Obama administration here is his speech as he tries to To yuck it up with everybody and make everybody feel comfortable and show the significance of this event on behalf of Michelle and myself welcome to the White House This city this house Has welcomed foreign

52:39 I have two words for you. predator drones. You will never see it coming! Also with us are the words of a song... He just slipped that in there New Africa Very funny Inspired so many across the continent and that Michelle and I first heard last year in Senegal Come together, new Africa

53:35 Work together. Which by the way is Yusuf Undur who did that song and I have that in the show notes as well When you bring Yusuf Undur in to do a song then this thing is set up good, you know? This is- That's not Shakira You know this is uh... The elite- The elitist Shakira Keep on working for Africa Woo! Work for it And so I propose a toast Drink To the new Africa. New Africa! The Africa that is rising and so full of promise, uh-huh And to our shared task Yeah To keep on working for the peace and prosperity... ...and justice That all our people seek and that all our people so recently deserve Cheers Drink you fools Enjoy your dinner everybody Enjoy your dinner everybody Okay Um So this is

54:31 A big to-do and it's run by the State Department. Oh Biden, by the way gets to talk about this He always puts his foot in his mouth be such a douche Yeah he did an atypical Joe move you have this of course the sky is the limit I mean it is limitless There's no reason the nation of Africa cannot and should not join the ranks of the world's most prosperous nations in the near term, in the decades ahead. This is one country for Joe! The nation of Africa! This is on the level of...of the dumbest thing that George Bush ever said or beyond? Or what's the other guy that used to be in there? Dukakis? No, no, the kid who became the blood czar

55:18 The Blood Czar? Yeah, the Vice President of the United States who owns all the blood banks or whatever. You discovered all this! I did?! Now you're freaking me out and I don't know what your talking about... Oh my god! The Blood Bank President? The Blood Guy yeah! Chaney!? He was vice president Who was before Chaney The vice president before Cheney was, well that was Clinton Gore. Before Gore? Bush Senior with... No no, Bush Junior who's Bush Juniors Vice President? Cheney! No I mean Bush Senior. Senior uh, well that's a good question.

56:05 Wow, I don't know man. Quail! Quail! There you go quail. The blood guy. You don't remember developing his blood back? He owns all these blood operations... Yeah but he's the CEO of Siberius that's yeah people thought he was dumb but boy he's not no actually i knew somebody who knew him and said he wasn't dumb at all apparently was a gaff master Siberia's but he says somebody dumb as crap and this would be one of them. Yeah, well that nation of Africa Yeah, so very good did anyone in the mainstream media pick up on this I didn't notice off course

56:43 Sure, every time Quayle said anything like adding an E to the word tomato which you would do in plural and actually turns out or potato one of them. Potato, yeah. This was before our time but I looked into it at the time and apparently in some parts of the Midwest is quite acceptable to add the e. Yeah but it was funny to make fun of him! Oh yeah, oh dummy Republican So, Joe...he speaks of the nation of Africa which makes total sense. It's all right I mean he should say continent or the nations of Africa but... Nations would work. Before i get to the clips that are gonna just blow it all out of proportion we have a couple of news stories all these in show notes so we have US to help establish africa peacekeeping force

CHAPTER 14 / 43 Discussion

African Peacekeeping Force, Ebola Dirty Bomb Fears

President Obama announced the establishment of a new peacekeeping force in Africa to support trade and investment. Simultaneously, the World Bank pledged $200 million to contain Ebola. Media reports are highlighted that warn of potential "dirty bombs" containing the Ebola virus being used by terrorists.

peacekeeping· world bank· sub-saharan africa· dirty bomb· terrorism· bioterrorism

57:38 This is all coming out of this summit. President Barack Obama said the US will help establish a peacekeeping force in Africa, which they're always armed by the way, the peacekeepers. And this is of course because an experimental Ebola drug will be being tested in the U S and remains unready yet to be distributed in affected West African nations, but when they do then of course they'll need peacekeepers to billy club people down who want to jump the line. The peacekeepers will be there and by the way real test is going to be on these people that's for sure Then we have the president came out with a memorandum establishing a comprehensive approach to expanding sub-Saharan Africa's capacity for trade and investment. This is part of the $7 billion that just appeared out of nowhere, although it's accounted for unlike other pieces of money. Fact sheet also released by The White House US engagement on climate change and resilience in Africa so you see kind of how we're managing this story is climate change

58:41 Cap and trade, we have Ebola. We're going to help you peacekeeping Executive order for the president's advisory council on doing business in Africa and the World Bank Which I think we pretty much run don't we? Let's hope so Has pledged 200 million to contain Ebola in Africa Meanwhile, we have to be very afraid. We have to keep the citizens scared in America as disease experts warn terrorists could make dirty bomb containing Ebola. Let me write that one down! I really love that but then the following happens and this is where i just love this so much. Kerry does a sit-down interview with Hard Talk BBC

CHAPTER 15 / 43 Discussion

John Kerry, Economic Hitman Tactics in Africa

Secretary of State John Kerry participated in a BBC Hard Talk interview regarding U.S. policy in Africa. Kerry emphasized that U.S. investment is not merely "extractive" like China's approach. The hosts analyze his rhetoric through the lens of "Economic Hitman" tactics, suggesting the U.S. is attempting to reclaim influence over African minerals and oil.

john kerry· hard talk· bbc· china· extractive industries· economic hitman· investment

59:28 interview show and the woman is interviewing him in his office or wherever it is during the summit because of course he flew back for the summit because this is his show. This is the neocons, this is the yalies. This is the Kagan's. This is part of the whole game that as we said earlier push Russia and China off to the side We've got to get them all out of Africa. This is classic economic hitman stuff if you have not read the book this is something that our entire show was kind of based on in its genesis The book Confessions Of An Economic Hitman by John Perkins

1:00:06 who since then we think is kind of flipped to the other side or he just doesn't want to get shot. You would too if you had a gun to your head and what I like about the BBC methodology they don't ask the questions as if they have an opinion, they will always find a quote from someone who asked or said something and then they'll ask a question. So... An example would be Professor Nnambulu said that the American United States really do not have Africa's best interests at heart What is your response to this? which is a roundabout way of asking a pretty rude question, but it could also be crackpot and buzzkill. I think the size and shape of your head resembles that of a watermelon. Your response Secretary of State? So it didn't play all of those questions but this is why I think this style of interviewing gets to the heart of a lot of the questions that otherwise cannot be asked. And I encourage United States mainstream media to do this same kind...to apply this technique. It actually requires reading

1:01:07 Well, this woman I don't know who it is from Hard Talk. She's good. I appreciate it very much. Hard Talk has had its moments as a good show. Yeah okay the Deputy National Security Advisor in the White House Ben Rhodes has said as far as this Africa-US summit is concerned that US brings something unique to the table what is it that the United States can offer in terms of African policy that other nations cannot? Well what do you think the answer would be John? What do we bring to the table but other nations cannot? Security. Yes, a good one I like the security angle. Our dollars are our money as the base for all transactions Very good yeah i like that. Our good looks our whiteness yes look at our honky self man

1:01:54 We're not like those yellow people. Well, first of all I think there is no country that is as entrepreneurial and combines science and technology and innovation in the way that we do our companies are really unique in that regard and we have many of them already involved in Africa I mean, we have a company like General Electric. For years it's been doing business in Africa We have Dow Chemical for years has been doing it. I mean they've huge number of projects Do you dispute this these facts? Oh, was he just bringing out these big... First he goes on and innovation and all the rest. And then brings out these big giant corporations who are essentially exploitative at this point in their histories? They are true entrepreneur GE bringing entrepreneurialism to light. So we have experience and we don't come into a place as some countries do.

1:02:52 with a simple deal and simple finance, bring our workers in or something else. Which country is that you're thinking of? You can play with all of that. Is that China in brackets? What I'm saying is we could... He's not going to answer! Is that China in brackets?! He's not gonna answer that but he basically... Why wouldn't he answer that what a chicken shit thing to say well this is... He described the Chinese technique which was coming with simple deals then make sense then bring your own people in And that's what the Chinese do, so he... and that's what he described. Why didn't he say Chinese? This kind of thing is annoying! Well wait until you hear the rest. You're gonna point a finger?! Well he is a chicken shit and this is economic classic economic hitman stuff and he just doesn't want to worry He does bring up China later. He says the word but he just wants to keep it away and explain with all the good things we're doing and of course We know there's a meme coming up as a word

1:03:47 But of course, we know this is only about oil and minerals. That is what Africa is! That's why everyone is in it. Is that China? What I'm saying as we come in with a willingness to work in ways that train employees, build something... And increasingly people are looking at the downstream investment impacts for the long term here. Look these things evolve. Nothing happens overnight, but over the course of time I think the US brings a remarkable set of disciplines and of capacity in technology for transfer that is critical to Africa at this point. Okay so he basically said nothing other than we don't bring in our own workers like the Chinas do

1:04:34 And we have complex financial deals. We don't do anything simple where you just sign your X on the bottom line, Mr wearing a sheet with your dildo on a stick No we make it complicated but will pay you off Here comes the meme, the word that is very important because We need to give these African leaders of the nation of Africa a story. They need to go back and say, hey we're going to get health care education security and they're going to bring in democracy Yes, I'll get more money in my own private bank accounts and it's not at all about oil or anything. Please! Please the word is coming up we will use this word many times in the future You say that the United States unlike other countries does not rely on natural resources like oil and so on No of course we do that but what's the difference? We're looking much beyond that Of course we do we also have extractive and much... Extractive

1:05:35 We have extractive. That... Have you ever heard this term? I think he was trying to say something else. No, no it is a term It'll come up later in another clip This is the term they use extractive but with it and what was the context we have? Extractive yeah the extractive as in a whole industry I guess extractive instead of saying wait Wait let's back it up play the clip Backed a clip up 5-10 seconds and play it five ten seconds by your command here We go first we do we also have extractives We all, I'll back up a little more for you. No that's fine, we backed it up but then i want to hear what he says after that Yeah well you'll hear come back this is their turn on natural resources like oil and so on... No of course we do! You do? So what's the difference? Make no mistake we also take oil yeah? No no no no we're looking much beyond that Of course we do, we also have extractive and much of the relationship until recently

1:06:30 was defined by that. Our desire is to move it well beyond that, and partly because we've listened to people in Africa. We listened to, we heard them. Hear from people in Africa that they want more than just that They don't want a relationship in which they're simply exporting oil or gas or minerals of one kind or another They want to build their countries. Rare earth minerals of one kind or another They don't want that! They want more from us like money and the Swiss bank account And we respect that and understand that because it is critical to building civil society, respecting human rights and developing democracy. And ultimately being able to provide stability. Oh yes of course with all these jabronis wearing hats and carrying sticks that who hate gays kill them is disgusting

1:07:24 But of course, it may be better than the China's. Here he goes our economic hitman watermelon head Kerry and I think he does bring up China here. There are other global competitors and of course China for instance just take one statistic has 150 commercial attaches across sub-Saharan Africa you know how many the United States has? Eight. Snap! Snap! Yeah yeah we're not... You know yeah i think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States About 135 or more I love how he wheels his way out of this. Approaches between China and the United States. He said China, he actually said China! This is huge because he had to. The United States has eight. Yeah we're not you know...I think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States We're still the biggest investor in Africa

1:08:15 And I am convinced that out of this conference will come even more significant investment. We had a dinner last night with four presidents, four heads of government presidents from various countries all of whom were extremely excited by what they heard about the kind of partnership that is offered by the United States Look at this check! Umbutu where it is not just extractive and selling one particular kind of deal, but it's really structured and built around the needs of a particular country. And has much greater ability to be able to train workers provide workers with ongoing skills and longer term employment capacity which is very different from what other countries in other companies do

1:09:03 By the way... According to France 24, the Europeans which is mostly the French have three times more investments in Africa than the United States. He's very specific about this difference between investment and companies I don't know if i have that in the clip And the Chinese have three times more than the United States so he has obviously got some definition that is not right But okay, whatever.

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

Obama Legacy, African Growth and Counterterrorism

John Kerry defines President Obama's legacy as fostering growth in Africa and providing an alternative to extremism. He cites the Affordable Care Act and economic recovery as domestic pillars of this legacy. The hosts remain skeptical, suggesting the African strategy is a Neocon-driven move to secure resources under the guise of humanitarian aid.

barack obama· legacy· healthcare· counterterrorism· boko haram· al-shabaab

1:09:46 you're going to tell me that no other scientists are going, let's solve this huge crisis and let's get a vaccine for Ebola. None of that! No it's the Americans and we're bringing our guys back and see if we can save people when they're alive? John I'm telling you this Ebola thing which you called very early on...you said watch out for it but is not like people haven't been dying for years of Ebola, of course they have. But I have the feeling that something we may have a little hand in this if not just the media story which is also bad maybe there's something else to it Why have this summit at the height of the hype? It's all beautiful Here is Kerry

1:10:28 I only have two more clips here, showing us the true globalist nature of his ways. He doesn't really care about America he really cares about just being part of the ruling set and even that...I think he just cares about what movie is gonna watch him but if you're gonna get popcorn But he's pretty slick. You do invest in Africa, let me just tell you what Ali Khan Satchew chief executive of Rich Management Nairobi that has been approved by the Nairobi Securities Exchange as an advisory service says look at Kenya America is already heavily invested we issued a euro bond in Kenya where we borrowed two billion dollars 66% percent was bought by North America and just in that you see that North America putting their capital down as you say but Africa is then using to build

1:11:15 infrastructure. The irony is that most of this stuff is being built by Chinese contractors and not the Americans you're putting the investment in but somebody else perhaps it's benefited well that's life yeah I bet it is oh that's his answer? That's life, yeah! Well he goes... He expands but notice her quote is she didn't say United States she said North America And that includes Candanavia. Canada's a big investor and they've got a big relationship with the Chinas, which we of course are losing out on without the pipeline deal. You know it also shows that we're not in it just to have our own contractors come over. We are doing this because we think is the right thing for Africa. Oh yeah. Fail! Epic fail! Save the poor black children in Africa exactly

1:12:02 And indeed other countries and other companies will benefit more power to them. Oh, yeah ultimately as long as I got stock This is good for Africa, and it's good for these countries to have the stability and the capacity as they build. We will all benefit from that on a global basis there will be less Boko Harams, less Al-Shabaab. There will be less cause for people to have their minds filled with extremist ideology rather than do engage in the broader benefits of society And we're interested in that and I'm glad we are as a country So I hear him in reverse

1:12:40 I hear him saying, do you like the Al-Shabaabs? Then go ahead don't do business with us. I hear it as a veiled threat! How can he say because we're going to deal with Nigeria that there will be less Boko Haram?! How can he say that? Only one way either we control them or bring in more drones and troops and we'll control them that way I find that very offensive as a... Well, that would be no agenda style interpretation. Yes but as a member of the... The BBC woman is not going to even consider it. But as a member of the African nation? I'm highly insulted! Final clip because of course he has to... It depends on whether they pick up on it. They probably communicated differently to them okay go on

1:13:29 Remember, these are the guys wearing chutes and sheets and carrying sticks. It's a huge scam this! Okay, of course Kerry has to make his boss look good or his so-called boss because he's there taking all the pictures in his bad suit and we talk a bit about his legacy. I just love the legacy that is being created by the neocons for the president. This Africa summit with the US gives Obama an opportunity at the end of this term for people to see a clearly defined legacy what will that be? Well, I think... look the legacy clearly will be this remarkable growth and development that takes place in Africa and it begins to benefit the world. And begins to bring people together and offers an alternative This is..this is the legacy of President Obama? All a sudden he saved Africa? Is that his legacy?! To some of the poverty and extremism that fills the vacuum That's one thing but beyond that

1:14:25 The president's legacy is not going to be defined by one specific initiative abroad or elsewhere. This is the president who has passed health care for all Americans, the president who saved the economy at a time that it was in crisis... He put on his cape and flew around and saved the economy! Does he hear these words coming out of his piehole? Who has created, I mean there are a whole series of things in counterterrorism and other things. Counterterrorism! Not defined by one thing but i think it will add to that sure. It's a powerful addition. Powerful edition

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Chinese Exit from Africa, Oil Interests in Guinea

The hosts discuss the displacement of Chinese infrastructure projects in Africa by U.S.-backed interests. They cite the precedent in Libya where Chinese workers were evacuated during the revolution. Current Ebola-affected regions like Guinea, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone are identified as areas with significant oil and mineral wealth.

libya· guinea· nigeria· sierra leone· boko haram· oil rights· infrastructure

1:15:03 So there you have it. It is, in a nutshell very very simple we've got hundreds of millions of dollars from the World Bank We have seven billion dollars appropriated to go to building and democracy etc in Africa And then I think the Trump card which...and by the way The Chinese are leaving places in droves My theory has always been Thank You Very Much Chinese for building the road, the schools, the operations Now get out If you don't get out, we will have Bokaram, Al-Shabaab, the al Qaeda in the Maghreb. What all these names will have someone go in and kill you

1:15:43 And this is what happened in Libya. Everybody out, oil is flowing. This is what's happening all over Africa." Yeah we have to remind our listeners what happened in Libya because the Chinese were actually building cities there and now they're just shells...there are no Chinese left. The first 30 thousand people to evacuate were all Chinese! All Chinese! Then we rebelized the place for letting the Chinese into the first place. Teach them a little lesson Yeah, well there's a less... We can rubbleize Africa. Maybe that's what's in the cards? Well I believe they've...I truly believe they want to do it in a less rubbleized way. I don't see why! Well they're trying this...I think they're trying the Ebola trick see if that works and these guys are all corrupt is very easy you go down that list of that Daily Mail article even if you chop everything in half

1:16:39 And of course, right off the bat they are allowing known anti-homosexual... I don't want to use the homophobe word because i don't think they have a crazy fear of homosexuality. I think that just you want to kill people? Kill some gays! They kill gays, they throw them in jail. They overthrow countries. They have hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars these so-called leaders and they got funky suits airplanes hot models you know and uh...and they got oil

1:17:15 And they have some infrastructure already built by the Chinese. And here we have our African-American president, perfect story, perfect guy to bring it all together for the African coup while everyone else is preoccupied and being shoved away and everyone else being essentially The Bricks. This is Brzezinski's grand chess game to a tee John! To a TEEE! Well, more power to him. That guy Anthony Fauci? We know him! We have heard him before on an Evergreen clip I've seen him before what is he on? What clip is he on? Dr. Fauci thanks so much as always for joining us

1:18:01 Good to be here, bro. Yeah Bro he really carries the girls guy you're the broth guy exactly Exactly this year do any work? He seems to be on shows all the time Fauci that guy Fauci so this and so this to me is It can't be a coincidence Its summer You know it's hot everyone supposed to be on vacation then we have this big thing going on with the Marines saluting everybody a bunch of douchebags Known killers of people in the nation of Africa Joe. I mean just look at John good luck Jonathan, please It's insulting this guy that's the hat he got from George Bush correct? I believe it is yeah He just keeps wearing it with his dress and a dress on Gold braids and stuff its so we shall see if they can really pull it off because I don't think these guys are sitting back And go okay

1:18:56 You know, let's forget Ebola for a moment. How much money are you going to give me? What am I getting under the table?" Now we have limits on that stuff! The Carys of the world say screw you man my kid is gonna get the money Joe Bidens kids gonna get the company in Ukraine that he is running They have limits... We'll just bring our extractive unit known as the Pentagon and Department of Defense and will kill you No, that's why we like to give people generous loans. Exactly you can see or you can skim from the loan That's your business so where no out now bribes by us the Chinese do that yeah? Oh of course So where is uh? Where's ebola hit the worst and so I would like to just how about Ebola map of Africa? I haven't actually done the work. I think Cote d'Ivoire still word most of it is

1:19:49 I could be wrong. Guinea, maybe it was Guinea one of the two. Let me just see here's the CDC... Guinea you are correct sir! West Africa, Guinea what do they have in Guinea? So Guinea Liberia Sierra Leone and Nigeria so Nigeria we know to have huge oil yeah big oil and lots of Chinese and Boko Haram which I guess we don't care about those girls anymore. Sierra Leone also has a... What happened to the girls? No one cares, they don't care about that. What's in Liberia? A woman! Apparently a woman from Liberia. There is a woman in Liberia Who runs the place? Now this is reference to a song from the... There once was a lady from Liberia... Was that what you meant?

1:20:36 Liberia, so here's the no agenda search ladies and gentlemen. Guys over 50 will get that gag I'm clearly too young Well you're not gonna be for long! Liberia oil And then let's do China This is how you search NoCal.com TLC Africa, ah okay Liberian Oil and Gas in Liberia Okay did they have a big pot? Is there anything new? So keep your eye on those Uh...I would suspect Where else do we need to be? Let's just keep it at that for now. Let's keep it those and see what happens with any oil rights or anything, our noagendanewsnetwork.com guys Barrett and WT they'll be all over it they'll be posting hundreds of articles they seem to find stuff all over the place whatever we talk about They're always finding it So that is my analysis of this situation The coincidence is beyond belief

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

NYC Anthrax Drill, Bio-Terrorism Simulation

New York City conducted a large-scale drill simulating a response to an anthrax release. The exercise involved the NYPD and the Health Department setting up 30 antibiotic distribution sites across the city. Officials emphasized the need for preparedness against biological threats, which they described as a major counterterrorism concern.

anthrax· nypd· nyc health department· bio-terrorism· antibiotics· drill

1:21:37 And the Ebola, having this Fauci guy in there with some kind of patent is being misused and we are of course being terrorized. This weekend New York City who as you know had... Some guy came in and thought he had Ebola locked down the airport! This weekend though we've got something else coming up It's a five o'clock wake-up call they hope it never real The largest of its kind NYC Health Department drill simulating the response to a release of anthrax. We want New Yorkers to know that in the event of an emergency, that we have plans in place and there's no need to panic. Dr. Osiris Barbot says 30 distribution sites for antibiotics would be set up citywide in eight hours. NYPD playing a big role

1:22:26 Deputy Chief for Counterterrorism Salvatore De Pace. From my experience in counterterrorism, bio is probably the most unknown. If there was an explosion boom you know what happens? The bio's very concerning. You get that Ebola stuff all over you if you get it... Boom! Boom boom dingo boom boom chugga lagga lagga boom poopoo boom boom chugga lagga boom boom. And with that I say thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C. Burke! In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water all the feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to our artistes we like to thank oh Nick The Rat was back? The rat is back

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

Value-for-Value Model, Mainstream Media Constraints

The hosts discuss the "Value-for-Value" funding model of the No Agenda Show, contrasting it with advertiser-supported mainstream media. They argue that their independence allows them to criticize government officials and report on topics like the visa database outage that corporate outlets might ignore or sanitize.

value-for-value· advertising· censorship· mainstream media· independent media

1:23:05 with the album art for episode 640. And in the morning, oh by the way find all of the album art at noagendaartgenerator.com In the morning to all our human resources in the chatroom NoAgendaStream.com and NoAgendaChat.net are down So we're gonna work on that after the show to get that back up But in the meantime I think these are kind of...I like these two pages We have It's like we have chat.noagendahosting.com and stream.noagendahosting.com, then we'll also have the integrated page The new stream is really kick-ass everything is working well except of course that little snafu with the page beyond our control So will work on that and this is a program That is supported by the producers many many people email and help us out from all walks of life

1:24:02 and I have some emails to read to you later, to share. We do have a...you know we have to mention the people that this is the only way we can do this show all the analysis we do what on all of deconstructions and all those things require some sort of commentary that is not acceptable by mainstream media editing. For instance, um, you haven't-I don't know why but you certainly have no heard about the Visa database outage and when you do it's brought into the context of a glitch. Of a glitch, there's that and then also you do the moaning and groaning about the attire of the African phonies that came over here is nothing that would be acceptable by anybody in mainstream media just won't let you do it. And I can assure you that you'd have a guy got no no no you can't say that what you can't say that why i just want to... You cannot say they kill gays? You can't say any of that!

1:24:59 It's just the way it is. You can't say it, its all clamped down. And if we had advertisers we wouldn't be able to say because the advertisers would... Gone! Gone to lagoo They would quit and we'd have no money. I was doing this morning with Miss Mickey once you step out of that page ITM dot IM slash Africa Once you step out of the realm and objectively look at these crazy getup these guys are wearing To signify some importance With big sheets and sticks, and... Yeah! It's almost as bad as Petraeus. Yeah it's their version of it which we also call out is Bogative with a million medals in your Bakelite name tag. Medals for being punctual. Yeah exactly. The Lords, Dames, Knights, Slaves & Elites please be upstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke Ron Helzhakker.

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, CRM Consulting

Adam and John acknowledge high-tier donations from executive producers, including Sir Stephen Pelsmacher from Belgium. They read a note from a donor in the San Francisco Bay Area who is recovering from a mountain bike accident. The segment highlights the personal stories of the show's financial supporters.

grand duke· sir stephen pelsmacher· belgium· crm consulting· san francisco· donations

1:25:53 In fact, we do have some donations. Some people to thank some executive producers and associate executive producers beginning with Sir Stephen Pelsmacher from Belgium and the Grand Duke of Belgium in France $333.33 he says ITM gentlemen sorry for the slackness in contributions I've had very little time to spend with the show these past few weeks and lots of demands on both my time and cash flow. I apologize for dropping the ball! Hey, maybe you should go squeeze some of the citizens man for cash? In LGY karma for all donors please And thanks for your courage in the incredible work you continue to do it's appreciated by everyone Well thank you very much Grand Duke Pels... Baron von Pelzmachers Grand Duke Sir Pelzmachers

1:26:36 And very happy to see you on the list. But also thank you for all of the great articles yo I send my way, which is it's great! You know he's looking at the Dutch stuff, the Belgian stuff and of course I can read that so... He has good inside tips on what would be known as Belgistan where he lives now So thank you very much sir. You've got karma James Bonchek in Plains, Pennsylvania 24482. Adam and John I'm here wearing my shirt junkinthetrunk-bucket.s3amazonnaz.com blah blah blah. What is that? There's a photo there we should be looking at it

1:27:21 He's wearing, okay. And here is the donation for the dude named Ben T-shirts I decided to say screw it and donate all the proceeds. Just the dude name Ben entrepreneur. Yeah, the dude name Ben T-shirts yes! Yes and did not donate all of the proceeds plus a double nickel on the dime $189.72 Plus the rest of it, which is the official due name. Ben donation plus 5510 double nickels on the dime equals 24482 keep doing what you do I used my twice weekly dose if you could i'd like to get Adam's live rendition of Gren Greenwald's Don't Laugh live rendition

1:28:00 Yeah, well you say oh my god. Oh okay? All right followed by a doctor keep each dr.. Kiki Keepy maybe Dr.. Kiki shut up and finished off with an oh my god It's so amazing all right and a karma as well But he doesn't say so but yes alright So this is the now official the number of the number for the dude named Ben donation is what is it now I Does he have a number for it 189 72 for some reason okay here we go dude named Ben? I just noticed something what dr. Kiki and the amazing chick could be the same person It's kind of the same cadence

1:28:53 It's... it's similar. It's got something. Maybe. Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York 22222 I do not have a note from Edward Sheets let me see if there is something in the mailbox Let me check too Is that a check or? No no that's not a check I got one good cheque that came in. Hmm. His name was Edward Spelled weird S-E-H-E-S search We have a notification of donation received. Okay, and his email is edsheets at me dot whoops sorry It's alright it could be at me org Let's actually know what it is but let's say yeah sure no it's not

1:29:45 I don't have anything so i don't know what's going on. Okay, imma try one more time nope nothing. Thanks Ed We're gonna get an email that is really angry Is this the guy who was already angry? I know my name is Mary and you missed my email we do have an email made good I wanted to read in a minute Steve Chipman yeah? Is it Steve yes Yeah this is the guy who was mad Oh, the guy was mad right? The guy who's mad is... Steve. No that was Tim Tillman no it wasn't Tim Tillman. Where is my Steve email? There are tons of mad guys. Steve Chipman meanwhile sent a check in and he sent a note I do have it sometimes all it takes is around sustained belly laughter to convert one from a boner to a donor

1:30:37 The commentary on NPR's WTF segment about Al Qaeda switched to sophisticated encryption in episode 640 was priceless. I have to say, I actually listened back to that one again it was for a comedy show pretty good yeah we're doing okay on the comedy Unrehearsed, by the way people. Unscripted unrehearsed you are witnessing a live performance Yes which is why sometimes once in awhile it doesn't happen alot but it does happen we lose stuff and sometimes you'll sit there and in Dutch we say teen kromend Teen kromend Which means your toes are curling its that bad Oh ok

1:31:26 uh... okay onward what was i a good deal yet he recently read my mind no agenda value meter So I could use a short, a shot of blue bird inducing karma as I had a bad mountain bike crash in April. The early recovery time which put a dent in the landing of my new customer engagements for my CRM consulting business. As John knows with the spectacular cost of living in the San Francisco Bay area you need to keep the ball constantly rolling to stay... In other words, to put food on the table

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

Podcast Production Gear, UAD-2 Plugins

Adam Curry provides technical details on the show's audio production. He uses an Apollo Twin interface with UAD-2 plugins, specifically the API Vision Channel Strip and the Neve 88RS. He explains how these tools create the show's distinct "flat" waveform and professional sound signature.

apollo twin· api vision· neve 88rs· universal audio· daw· audacity

1:32:02 On a different topic would Adam consider revealing which UAD 2 plug-in or plugins he's using with the Apollo twin as well as what his magic DAW of choice is, MacDAW D A W of choice is. Yeah I have to document this because I really want people to see how easy it is and they'll make a giblet just... I'm watching Watermelon Head carry But I will tell you right now very quickly, I'm using the API Vision Channel Strip for both John and myself. That is the only plugin we use. We use the noise gate, the compressor limiter and a little bit of EQ very important Then I route that all through... ...total signal, end fed signal if you will through the Neve 88 RS which is why if you ever open up this show in an editing program like Audacity it's flat

1:32:59 It's just one big flat line. There is almost no waveform, but this is part of our sound... So that Neve which is a very famous preamp, one of the most famous in the world and it has the filter that supposed to sound like that? No its a compressor limiter and of course I mean a compressor limiter filter thats a plug-in you don't have a neve! No but this is what Universal Audio business they sell you a box and then they continuously market all these They have licensed the sound and the overall look in the name of all these very famous studio gear. And they'll send you an email like, hey remember this great box used to hook up your guitar too when it sounded like Eric Clapton?

1:33:44 We've got it and they have a picture of this looks. It looks just like it, and it sounds like it's a small company But I'd like what they're doing And then I use the audio rack suite open source This all by the way all on the Mac as the DAW if you will but I will be happy to send you Then when I finally get around to documenting it. I will include my settings for everything so you can go ahead and you can just recreate settings Well, it's kind of cool if you get the set is what you do to the settings or everything Yeah So that you'll be good to go and good to go and you go where? Anywhere good podcasts can go. Okay, so if it was Bernie Glynn Oh

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Missy Jubilee Art

The hosts read a colorful email from an Australian listener, Bernie Glynn, who initially vowed not to donate but changed his mind. The email promotes the artwork of Missy Jubilee, described as sitting on the line between erotica and fine art.

missy jubilee· australia· erotica· listener email· bernie glynn

1:34:31 who sent in the note, he was an exhausted executive producer and his thing got cut off. And then he got irked at us because we weren't responding to his email. I sent back him a note...I generally don't open email that has a subject line of RE as in spam does. Yeah think about it people you need to use hash tags with John because that goes to spam yes use hashtags with me And put something useful in the subject line. Yeah, like no agenda important. That's what I always tell people to put. You know dudes when Dvorak burned down Club 33 and what can only be described as some we read this weapons grade pathetic

1:35:12 theater, I promised myself that would never donate to you two boneheads again but would instead bone you both for years to come while suckling on the tasty free nipple of your podcast. So we already know that Bernie's a little one of those guys he probably likes Andrew Dice Clay from The Sounds Of This. Dickery dickery duck! However, the fantastic analysis you do time and time and time again. The fact that you made me laugh out loud whilst I continued to commute on the train, and the overwhelming guilt of not paying you is making life a living hell! If you need to see original art cutting edge stuff dead

1:35:52 that rides shakily on the better side of the line between erotica and porn, visit missyjubilee.com Missy's doing real art and deserves a look but only if you are open-minded Damn You Both! So that's Bernie from Blair Mount, New South Wales. He's an Aussie. Thanks for the tip on Missy Jubilee! That's pretty cool. Yeah, Missy Jubilee... I guess he's dating her? Not safe for work kids. Not sure if he's dating her but i would think he'd like to. I like what she's doing. Anyway we do have a show coming up

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Defcon Meetup, 26th Anniversary

A No Agenda meetup is announced for the Defcon conference in Las Vegas, organized by Ramsey Cain. John Dvorak mentions his upcoming 26th wedding anniversary, which he refers to as the "paperclip anniversary," and plans a trip to Washington State and Canada.

defcon· las vegas· ramsey cain· anniversary· paperclip anniversary

1:36:32 Is that it? Are we done, that's it. Yeah, that's all we got. We didn't get a lot and it was a little short but on Sunday hopefully you can make it up devorick.org slash NA you can come in and yeah we only have one executive producer which is the Grand Duke. Unusual. Huh quick plug for the Defcon No Agenda meetup Ramsey Cain hosting that what is Defcon isn't coming up I don't know I asked Ramsey for a date Of the meetup. I'll probably be in Washington, going to Washington State. Oh? Well it's our anniversary we always get together It's a concept really y'all you always get together what is the date of your anniver... oh its 888 right? 888! We could uh yeah the thing we had a special donation everyone still wants to do that and I can put it back in the newsletter. Aww. And then take her up to Canada. Canadia But let me finish before..I'm gonna forget this plug if I don't do it well I want to know when the date is

1:37:31 There it is, Ramsey Cain. No Agenda Media. Okay read go So if you go to noagendacd.com there's a link in the menu for Defcon and that's where all the information will be posted And on this page it says everything except for the date Yeah, I sent him a note. What's the date? He says we're making arrangements with a concierge at Encore Las Vegas for a private room that will hold about 20 comfortably For further details email me at noagendacd at gmail dot com I did! I want to know what the date is The date is right here...I think it starts today actually

1:38:09 The meetup is today? No, the meetup is not today. But the DEF CON 22's August 7th to 10th Rio Hotel and Casino Los Wages Nevada Lost Wages So that should be probably tomorrow or who knows Saturday Who knows we don't have a date I don't know! I got no idea Ramsey hook us up bro We want it promoted we think its great idea Send pictures Well im guessing its going to be over by Sunday But I guess you could go to or send him an email, which i just read his email address noagendacd at the gmail.com and if you're in the Vegas area...I would have gone if I didn't have an anniversary! No agenda c d at gmail dot com So you're leaving after the show today? I'm leaving actually tomorrow morning Oh well that's nice How many years will it be 26

1:39:05 Is that a... is there's, uh, a surface attached to that? Yeah. Paperclip! Really?! Yes, this paperclip anniversary. 26th is pa- who comes up with this crap!? I don't know. All right, please support us we will have a show on Sunday and of course i'll be looking forward to giving you the Fauci analysis of this patent which is a lot of work and I hope some of our doctoral producers will check in and uh... We do need your support for every single show since we have no ads it's the only way that we can make it work Devorak dot org slash N A And in addition to that we always can use some help

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

California Proposition 19, Marijuana Legalization History

The hosts critique a media segment regarding the failure of California's Proposition 19 in 2010. A guest claimed the bill failed because it favored Oakland as a "new Amsterdam," which Dvorak disputes as revisionist history. They discuss the tendency of news media to allow guests to make unsubstantiated claims without pushback.

proposition 19· california· marijuana· oakland· legalization· revisionist history

1:39:43 of propagation due formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth shut up In the morning. Alright, in the morning! You know what bothers me? That clip that we're adding to this thing with that concept that there's this you know it is all bullcrap I wonder...you were in California during the Proposition 19 thing weren't you

1:40:40 When Proposition 19 came up to legalize marijuana in California, I think you were in California. You had to be! You had to be in San Francisco or Los Angeles. I think Los Angeles yeah...I didn't really pay that much attention to it. You don't vote okay well no oh no I vote but- I don't understand why didn't pass but it didn't pass and Oh of course there was a yes and it was nutty Yeah, well it didn't. There's no promotion for it and everyone was stoned that's how we saw it Hey man I wanted to vote but then I got hungry It's gonna be okay So nobody voted for it if they'd lost and now California By the way turns out that California according to at least Uber facts which could be bogus California was the first people who make marijuana illegal in the whole country That wouldn't surprise me

1:41:25 Anyway, but let's get back to this. What bothers me the most is this kind of rewriting of history now I have a clip that some expert was on discussing marijuana in Colorado and what they're discovering all the rest as there was brought up about why California didn't pass Proposition 19 and This was dropped on the host nobody asked questions if I was the host I would have said I never heard this California is still the wild, wild west. We are working right now with different political groups and super PACs to get our points across but the reason that Prop 19 failed which is what you had referenced earlier is because it was heavily favoring just Oakland to become the new Amsterdam of California and a lot of growers didn't like that Oh I remember that yeah they had this Superstore and everything Yeah I remember this But I don't think that was in the legislation It wasn't in the legislation? No she just meant... Oakland?!

1:42:20 Yeah, they had that big... the Ikea of pot or whatever they called it. But she says it didn't pass because it was favoring Oakland! Yeah she's full of shit She's totally full of shit! Sorry don't mean to sound crass or anything but yeah and who is this woman? Oh it was somebody I think it was on Fox or one of these shows you know again I get the envelopes downstairs and I don't care The point is that this attempt to rewrite history is ongoing Let's just make it up as we go along. Nobody in the news media is going to question any of it." Instead of saying what like I said if I was the guy had gone. I never heard this Where did you get that information? I want to document I do it at the table by the way a dinner because JC's always coming up with stuff like this For dinner tables discussion, this is not good for your marriage by the way It's okay with your kid but then no it's fine we all do it and

1:43:18 Everybody in the family does it. We all question... I love you, honey! Happy anniversary! Show me some documentation you love me! Where's the paperwork? It's not like that! Oh okay You're just like- see there you go, you're exaggerating it just like this woman did about Prop 19 That's not what we're talking about I think it's a very valid point How can I know for sure that you love me Well that's what women do in general I don't think its got anything to do with dinner table conversation Wow Only women? Wow, alright. I think men are more secure generally speaking. Not me! Well yeah a lot of people would say that about you. I'm totally insecure Yeah i know That's why you produced the show so that's why your perfectionist. Well I also know when to stop But a lot of this has to do with Tourette's even though you won't admit it Interestingly enough ever since

CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

Tourette's Syndrome, Superpower Reactions

John Dvorak discusses his personal experiences with Tourette's Syndrome, suggesting that the condition provides him with "superpower" reaction times and an ability to memorize numbers and addresses. He notes similar physical tics in professional baseball players like Coco Crisp and explains why he prefers not to do video for the podcast.

tourette's syndrome· coco crisp· oakland a's· reaction time· super power

1:44:21 The Secretary of Defense, which I don't mean Hagel. I mean the soccer player? Our USA team soccer player who has Tourette's? Hero of the Tics? He attributes a lot of his quick response to Tourette's and I have been noticing Two things that I have with my Tourette's, besides the ticks that move all over the place. One if a glass falls or is about to tip... ...I can catch that sucker so fast Yeah, well I could do that. I'm like Rain Man... no? Okay! Well maybe you have Tourette's. But stuff that falls, I can catch it halfway to the ground if someone else's glass falls It is very strange. I had this lightning fast reaction for that stuff and I can catch it. Well I am thinking there are a lot of baseball players who hit up 95 mile an hour fastball

1:45:13 You can't be normal. Possibly? And I noticed that a lot of you watch baseball and you watch the batters, you watch a lot of them have ticks up there. Their arm is slapping down their fingers are wiggling around the bat they can't keep the bats still now some guys go out there and they have the batters still steady it looks like a rock There used to be this Garvey, it used to be this player for the Dodgers and he was like a robot. They called him Mr Robot. He would stand up there stoic but most of these guys are jerking around their heads bobbling their arms snapping back and forth... And now at the plate the robot is ready to go! So I was thinking for example that one in Oakland A's that is the most nervous up there seems like a Tourette's guy is Coco Crisp

1:45:59 His fingers are wiggling, he's always...he just can't sit still. And it's all tick-like though! It's not the normal just...it's like ticks! It's like a lot of ticks. So here is... Maybe you're right? Maybe you're onto something? Maybe that the reaction time is just a little better Also, typically starting clips and stuff based on your cue. I mean there's a lot of things...I have some kind of reactive response that I believe is a superpower. That could be training! No it's a super power! And by the way, we could never have video on this show. Even if we... besides the fact that we think it would ruin the show because I think it would ruin the show Totally But I ticked the whole time during the show Sometimes its so bad Im squeezing my eyes closed when im talking If Im trying to make a point Oh no! Now I think wait a minute Lets rethink this video thing Its really..I cant have anyone near me If I know theyre looking I can't do my ticks you know? It's like go away

1:47:00 It's funny that this comes up now, but it's true. I'm just ticking away and not much worse than I do... It's funny you sound as slick as they come. Slick. You don't sound like your ticking, buh-buh-buh-buh-but you're not doing anything. No? But talking about it, I have a series of clips that bring up a couple of... Can I tell you the other superpower I have that I've noticed? Yes please! Numbers and data such as addresses You can tell me the code to a padlock or something once, or phone number or an address. Even if I just hear it you're not even telling someone else that I can recite that correctly for sometimes months or years later. You would have made a great spy! Funny you say that but that's for another show

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Barack Obama, Torture and Extraordinary Interrogation

The hosts deconstruct a clip of President Obama discussing the CIA's past use of torture. They focus on his use of the word "some" when referring to banning extraordinary interrogation techniques and his warning not to be "too sanctimonious." They argue these semantic choices imply that some forms of torture may continue.

barack obama· torture· extraordinary interrogation· sanctimonious· semantics

1:47:55 Yeah, all right. Here we go. All right I got a clip i was leading up to something but I thought it was play your clip player because my guy gonna run out of material if I well I was uh I was coming out of um you know what people say and how words matter and I received a number of emails from people about the clip we played of Obama where he talked about we tortured some folks And there were two things that were said in there, I think i was so happy to just catch him on some crazy crap he was saying. That I didn't hear what he was really saying and thank goodness we have some producers who caught it and called me on it We did a whole lot of things that were right but...we tortured some folks So that's the clip that uh..that im talking about now listen to what he says now

1:48:45 And, you know it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks had. Okay so we were talking about sanctimonies but did you hear what he actually said? Don't be too sanctimonious! Yeah no he implied there could be sancti-money I'm wondering, as I listen to that clip since I did make a clip of him stammering. If his... if any of those are tells? Of a lie! Yeah or yeah or lie or yeah it'd be a lie what else would it be?

1:49:30 I'm just wondering if we've never made a correlation between his... and the next comment. We just assume he's this guy who is stammering, stuttering constantly when he doesn't have his teleprompter when he's doing stuff on the fly. Well, so not too sanctimonious is actually much worse than just saying don't be sanctimonious and sanctimonious is you know like hey you know we're superior we can do that I read this email I didn't take it quite so I thought it was too casual to be important as a words matter topic. Yeah, don't be too sanctimonious and yeah okay maybe so you can be a little sanctimonious is what the implication is which is okay maybe be a little sanctimonious... So what? And then all right we can't be sanctimonious at all about torturing people! You just can't torture people

1:50:29 That's the problem. You can't torture people, that was not our values! So if you don't... If you can't torture then you shouldn't be sanctimonious not even a little bit he says two sanctimonies so we could be sanctimonious but still you can't like go neener-neener-neener or what where does it end? I just didn't think it was that important but here's next part of thought was good yeah And that's the reason why after I took office, one of the first things I did was to ban some of the extraordinary interrogation techniques. Some! Yeah. I missed that one. We should have both caught that. Some. Didn't ban the waterboarding? What did he ban then? Well some... Who knows? It must've been something horrible. Who knows? Something we don't know about. We're not in a loop on who some what

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Pawn Stars, Weird vs Odd Semantics

A clip from the reality show Pawn Stars is used to illustrate a discussion on the words "weird" and "odd." The hosts suggest that "odd" is a better substitute for "weird" in professional conversation. They credit listeners for providing highly specific clips that aid in their semantic deconstructions.

pawn stars· chumlee· semantics· weird· odd

1:51:24 And then I did have another one more words matter just because someone said you ever see Pawn Stars Stupid reality show about don't watch reality. No me neither But someone sent me this clip the because we the word weird has come up in and conversation I've got myself twice Oh, so now I'm catching myself So I'm on the road to recovery Very good. Once you start catching yourself, then you're on the upswing Yes And the word to substitute if you're just in a bind and can't think of something is odd Odd works very well and here's this... Strange This came out in Pawn Stars and someone sent me the clip He's a little odd today isn't he? Odder than normal I think that what we are looking for is weird

1:52:09 He's odd. Weird. It's weird if you don't love him, we love Chumlee he is like family so he is odd Well I love Chumlee but Chumlee is weird Interesting that would come up in front Great clip! That's a very highly qualified clip Nice huh? Yeah very good This when people started helping the production of the show it's very nice to have this A little F Russia stuff Well, I want to go on there before we do Russia because i'm going to go to Russia. I want to Do a little uh observational Analysis here good love it about the Hillary book brand Brand hillary so brand hillary is actually what it's called and they there was a thing at this idiotic operation called net roots

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Brand Hillary, Netroots Social Media Strategy

The hosts analyze the "Ready for Hillary" PAC and its presence at the Netroots conference. They critique the corporate "brand management" language used by social media representatives from Facebook and the PAC. The discussion focuses on how Hillary Clinton is being marketed as a "venerable brand" to millennial voters.

hillary clinton· netroots· ready for hillary· facebook· brand management· pac

1:52:56 Yes, I played a clip from this. Yes you did it was about a week ago we played Elizabeth Warren the famous... She was there! We believe in science Right she was there and she's part of this group so they had a meeting of a bunch of the social media types And I've discovered a couple of interesting things. Is this YouTubers? Facebookers, the big ones, the big boys...the Twitter-er's, the people that run Ready for Hillary, she was there, the Ready For Hillary gal was there. In fact let's play her first

1:53:35 She is ready for Hillary. This would be the Hillary brand, Ready For Hillary rep or the Facebook girl that you're hearing it's okay? Well I don't even know which is which but I think it's the ready for Hillary clip and here's why you should support them financially So we stop stop stop It's not how much to start over because they do have to set this up a little bit now I think about it she Is a very annoying blonde oh gee? Valley girl Valley girl and she talks with in a lot of Silicon Valley speak and you see if you can catch a few of the little bull crap Commentaries that she makes in the process of discussing Discussing. Can we set this up a little bit more and explain what ready for Hillary is? Oh, I'm sorry that we don't know what that is No, I agree 100% Ready for Hillary is a pact that was set up about a political action committee

1:54:29 said maybe six months to a year ago and it was in the i'd believe that hillary somehow behind even though it's illegal if she is and it's been sending out emails and bumper stickers and we see ready for hillary bumper stickers as from this group and they may collecting names and addresses and five dollars and three dollar donations have got tons of money and their there were essentially leveraging day as they call it the hillary brand brand hill Brand Hill and it's just gotten completely out of control. They're huge, and this is one of the women running the thing." And here's why you should support them financially so we plan on mobilizing our network not just financially but will also be driving folks to engage on the ground whether its volunteering or turning out to kind of organize themselves in their own community

1:55:17 We think it's a really great value add. We have folks who have come out and said that they are really for Hillary, that's awesome! Some of these folks are specifically interested in her so they might not be out there engaged in the 2014 process So here's an opportunity for us to take a group of people and really direct them into the midterm election. So I think we are looking forward to watching our members hit the ground across the country, and really amplify the work that we anticipate Hillary is going to do as we head into the last 90 days or so of the election season. So I think that that's our presentation. Our presentation!

1:56:02 She's an uptalker and so I started but I started listening more carefully the cadences in some of these there was a very Identifiable stuff going on now this next woman which is the clip Now, I have a question about you because you mentioned this off-the-cuff So the political action committee cannot have any involvement with the candidate herself That is illegal by the by the rules by the rules and the rules that legally yeah This up to election committee this up talking millennial If she and Hillary are friends on Facebook, would that be considered illegal? I have no idea. Okay Well It's something to be looked at because the Facebook woman was there apparently some executive from Facebook another one of these Valley girl names

1:56:47 She's there with her jargon and all the rest of it. And she, then I picked up on something she does and then I listened to person after person and a lot of people at Netroots had this anomalous way of speaking that I will epitomize by the last clip but play the bass voice. Also, I would just add is...I think it's really interesting in politics and in this space there's very few I think organizations that have access to this kind of brand. Like, this very much is... In my work when I look at or sort of think about trends and look at where people on Facebook are having the most success and marketers on Facebook it's ultimately the really big brands that are approaching Facebook from this idea

1:57:35 It's a constant brand management and how they're going to consistently add value so that at the end of the day, you can make those asks. And you can continue to keep people engaged. I think Ready for Hillary is really unique in the sense that you guys have access to this amazing brand- Amazing! There is an element of consistent on the page reinforcement of that brand and display and promotion of that brand. As well as you know asking people to take actions and driving conversions around that brand but more so than most other super packs I mean, I can't really think of another one that has this much of a real sort of brand strategy That's particularly on Facebook

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Hillary Clinton, Linguistic Cadence and Ums

John Dvorak identifies a specific linguistic pattern among Hillary Clinton supporters and staff, characterized by frequent use of "um," "uh," and "you know." He suggests this cadence is a marker of the Clinton political milieu. The hosts observe these speech patterns in several speakers from the Netroots event.

hillary clinton· linguistics· cadence· speech patterns· netroots

1:58:15 Oh man, okay now before you do anything else. I would love and I can't believe I didn't clip this I don't know why we're gonna play it from the from the YouTube This is the native advertising clip. I know you saw it um I wanted to clip this too, sorry. Why? I don't know why we didn't do this... We can do it as a segment because there's lots to be said that you're talking about the New York Times woman Yeah with an eight about should we just finish right now or Do you want to finish up and then we'll go into a little thesis here please do so i'm starting to notice A certain pattern now This is epitomized by the next and last clip which Is hearing a trend clip Which actually says part two on there

1:58:58 It's the use of um Ready now we had um People before and they tend to be hummers. Um you know what I mean this guy uses three things in tandem he uses um uh And so no, and you know oh You know, I find is very weird but that's a lower middle-class kind of thing It's also found in liberal community. They will say you know But to come out and say I find you no weird is that's messing with me right? And you said it weird Yeah, I said messing with my brain. Yeah Hello was 1970 call and we want our stop word back, you know Organization what sort of different messages are you guys using on social and fundraising? That maybe would be different than what other people would have seen before

1:59:46 I mean, one of the things that's really unique about this organization is that we're not so... It would be presumptuous to think that Ready for Hillary could dictate what Hillary Clinton's message is going to be. This is not a campaign. It's focused on building grassroots army and building grassroots infrastructure. Army! So for every time that Hillary goes out and gives a speech about recent things that have happened in voter suppression, we're really echoing that and making sure our email list knows the key points she's hit on and giving people opportunities to really

2:00:28 join in the efforts that she's promoting. And then also really just using her as a force of personality, and so a lot of the imagery that you see on the Facebook page and on the email list and other social network channels are things we've done a lot of testing on and seen people really respond to because she is, you know, an inspiring figure." You should add right! And by the way he says she's an inspiring figure what was the next thing he said? Right um He's telling you he should have added a right in there to everything that was never says writer. You never uses so it's um ah You know It was bad as bad as bad Astonishing to me and listen to this guy, but I think this is a very common Hillary cadence the um you know um

2:01:24 Especially the ums. So if you hear people saying, um a lot because I don't know here it is here It is if people are saying um a lot they're hanging out with her no there's Somebody's hanging out with somebody. I think it's the milieu itself has as right and that's why I think that woman That was the editor of The Executive Editor from New York Times who was a hummer and said um a lot? I think it's all part of the same group. It's a milieu So just keep an eye out for if you hear somebody saying um, um, um they are Hillary people. Just a little observation and you can take it or leave it. No I like it! What we should play now is Meredith Levine...I think her name is

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Native Advertising, New York Times Storytelling Tools

Meredith Levine of the New York Times is featured in a clip explaining "native advertising" as a way for publishers to share "storytelling tools" with marketers. The hosts argue this is a deceptive form of propaganda that erodes the boundary between editorial and advertising. They mock the comparison of the New York Times to BuzzFeed.

native advertising· new york times· meredith levine· storytelling tools· propaganda· buzzfeed

2:02:12 And there's some confusion out there about native advertising. A lot of people think product placement is native advertising, that it is not what it is? No no no and even John Oliver's otherwise pretty good piece on native advertising really put a bit too much of the product placement in there which is just not what it is! I believe in this clip native advertising is explained very well and also in how incredibly lame it is, and that this is the future of news will be stories about products and services that advertisers deliver. And it will all positive about them... It's already done! But I thought this was a good clip also because this woman when she's on stage at the IAB, Interactive Advertising

2:03:05 Bureau I think the I think it's brute bureau. Hmm that may have been at ad tech. I'm not sure where she was IB Okay, you know Interactive Advertising Bureau right when she's talking and she has these high leather boots on she keeps squatting down Did you notice that no? She makes a point she goes. No she's good Squats a little bit. Very disturbing, very disturbing the whole thing is was not getting I'm so excited you were You know an early forger into the whole native world at Forbes a forger and you've now gone to the venerable institution of The New York Times To bring your trade to their nice publication And you know I had the good fortune being able to find some mock-up

2:03:52 creative of what the New York Times is going to look like. Here it is, folks under Meredith and yes first of all you'll notice in tabloid format but what struck me was this fascinating Tom Friedman article on how Pepsi was gonna help solve peace in the Middle East This was a joke obviously. Let me vigorously dispute that for a moment. Good.

2:04:44 Do I want to engage with the marketers content do you hear yourself lady squat woman? And we say that in a different way would just say good native advertising is just not meant to be tricked It's meant to be publishers sharing its storytelling tools with a marketer. Storytelling tools! We're sharing the storytelling tools. So I think the real question that you mean to be asking me is how can a publisher who is sharing their storytelling tool set with a marketer maintain consumer trust and maybe even extend it? Oh, I got your question. What is a storytelling tool?

2:05:25 Can I buy this at the Home Depot? A storytelling tool technically would be the computer, the word processor. Yeah! Am i missing something? Well storytelling would be the format in her parlance or the process... It would be how you present the story of the advertiser in a way that's palatable Or in a way that you can trick the reader into thinking it's objective. But it's not objective, in the least. So it's propagandistic methodology. That's a tool, yes propaganda and methodology thank you. First way that they have to do that is by holding the marketers who tell stories on their platforms to the same standards that consumers hold them too and those trust standards I think are very simply based on three things

2:06:15 Tell the truth, be transparent about who's telling it and add value to the conversation. So I want to break those three things down very quickly. Add value to the conversation John? What does that mean lady?! What does truth mean in the context of editorial? I think simply it means getting to the consumer with the best possible information available on a topic and ideally doing so with experts on the ground very close. On the ground, like experts on the ground. Get off the ground! It was hugely read New York Times story done a couple months ago year after Benghazi

2:06:54 That was meant to bring kind of clarity and to a very complex topic that had a lot of confusion around it. That's the way we do truth, so what does that mean for marketer? How does the marketer do truth I am not suggesting... John how do you do truth? This whole thing is the most.. To me it's an indication that the war is lost Essentially, you've turned over the editorial department. And the guy from Time Magazine was worse when he says I don't understand what this church and state thing ever was about! Makes no sense to me! This is what's funny about The New York Times...

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Journalism Ethics, Junkets and Samsung

John Dvorak discusses the hypocrisy of journalism ethics rules regarding gifts and junkets. He explains how the New York Times uses strict "pay-your-own-way" rules to maintain exclusivity while smaller publications are priced out of international coverage. He argues that the rise of bloggers has disrupted this gatekeeping system.

journalism ethics· junkets· samsung· korea· detroit free press· bloggers

2:07:34 Let's do just a stop for a minute and discuss some of the things they've done. New York Times established the ethics of journalism, just on a de facto basis not everybody goes along with it but most people do and they have all these little rules and regulations to keep journalists in line. I need to ask questions Is this codified? Yes, it is. The New York Times has an ethics guideline. Most publications do this. The Wall Street Journal has one the New York Times has one and they send it to the writers if you start working for them. Can you give me example or that's too drawn out? An example of what? One of the rules? You cannot take any gratuity or gift over thats worth valued more than $25

2:08:22 And that would include t-shirts. So you could, as a New York Times reporter... You can take a free T-shirt if you're at an event but you can't take a free hoodie if its value is $35. You just can't take it. It's illegal. That seems... I mean, it's ethically bad even though to me it's bullcrap. I think who cares what you'd take? Right. Who cares? A piece of garment. The same thing with meals. This is what they're worried about?! Yeah, yeah. Now I want you to reason that I'm discussing this at this point because in light of what we're hearing from this woman you have to really wonder what kind of slave training were discussing here in terms of the journalists when they are running blatant

2:09:06 advertising as editorial in the same publication that has all these rules. So, the rules are obviously bullcrap so let me... The one that always gets me and I'm always debating this rule with Times people and everybody else in between it has to do with junkets Ah, yes. The junket of course! But the junket has always been a bone of contention with me. The New York Times has this policy that if you go on a junket in other words if Samsung which is a typical one wants to fly you to Korea to show off their new semiconductor plant You have to pay for it. You cannot let Samsung buy you an airline ticket, you cannot let Samsung buy you a hotel room, you can't buy anything if you're a legitimate ethical journalist. Now this rule, this sort of rule only applies as it was established by the New York Times and really only applies to American journalists because in Europe

2:10:05 Very few publications will pay you to go to the Samsung. They expect Samsung to pay the bill, and I feel the same way if somebody's going to fly me To Korea which is an inconvenience? I might add and make me listen to propaganda in the ass they're paying for it right not me And that's always been my attitude about this But I would I would surmise That seeing that a bloggers gladly take the offer Journalists at the Old Grey Lady are very perturbed about this. No, that's not what happens is this is what the trick is... Is that the journalists of The Old Grey Lady will pick up the tab and send a journalist there and journalist writing for The Detroit Free Press or other

2:10:51 important publications that are higher end. They don't have the money to do it, so the journalist stays home. The bloggers go for free! So the only people covering the event is The New York Times and the bloggers which means that Detroit Free Press gets no coverage they can't cover because they can afford to send the guys. So the whole thing is a scam to keep you New York Times kind of on the scoop level of things where everybody else can't afford it. Whereas in Europe, that's an interesting take I get it. It's a game! It's a gambit now the gambit has been destroyed by the bloggers because these bloggers will flock to these things and how come we're never invited? And they'll write it up really well there totally...I get invited once in awhile. That's too much work anyway that well you know if you're on the right mailing list here's one thing I know about John

2:11:36 He has been invited, I won't mention any brand names. He's been invited to places uh...to drive vehicles and he just wrote a shitty article about him! You do that? I like that you just say it was crap. Well i tell people, I do a thing-I tell other writers who argue on my side of this debate That generally speaking the dumb bloggers will go there and then they'll fall over themselves. Yeah, I'm looking at you CC Chapman as a, oh this is the greatest thing I've ever done. Because they feel that they got a gift of a trip to Korea or some place because they wouldn't have gone otherwise and probably never get to Korea in their lives. Well it may not be true but so they feel an obligation which is what the companies want you to feel, an obligation. And then write nice things about them. I always lecture them that you're never gonna get invited back if you write good things they figure ah

2:12:28 Our job is done. We got him to write the good thing, now he's... you put him on the C-list He's never gonna... we don't need to invite him back. Get some new guys! So he's done, he's never going to go back and if you write a bad thing You're not gonna get invited back no matter what you do, you might as well be honest. And live it it like it is, what happened if you liked whatever you saw fine. If you didn't, you didn't have to be that way but this idea that they scanned a scam about the New York Times has tried to pull off has always been seen by me as a scam to keep them as an exclusive purveyor of information which has been destroyed by the bloggers and now they've come up with this other thing. They're adopting native advertising which just

2:13:11 confirms, in my opinion, confirms that this New York Times operation is always or never been on the up and up. It's always been slightly corrupt and all these ethical things that they've come up with are just to keep these guys in tow as a bogus facade. There was no ethics to a New York Times or any other newspaper that adopts native advertising as some sort of a good thing, a way to make money. This just proves I was right Proves it! So it accentuates when she squats, when she's making a point. She's standing on stage here. With this that marketers should become investigative journalists but what I am suggesting is that marketers many of them have deep domain expertise very close to where the center of where a story is happening How does that work for KitKat?

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Associate Executive Producers, Birthday Call-outs

The hosts read a list of $50 and $100 donations from listeners across the globe, including the UK, Sweden, Australia, and Israel. They provide "jobs karma" and "F-cancer karma" to various producers. A special anniversary shout-out is given to a couple from Montreal.

bristol· leicester· tel aviv· sydney· fargo· donations

2:21:29 We may not get everything right, but at least we have the freedom to analyze and not have to trick you into being entertained and to engage with some kind of story of boots on the ground. What does that even mean? It's crazy talk! Yeah it is...it's sad. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah they'd be phat! Oh no agenda shortlist today short short shorts uh... some of the security it's summer time someone and i'm so sorry that someone has a return summer times on the job sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes it's not my choice steve curtis in bristol bristol uh... hundred thirty three dollars said this is in the u k and putting himself on the mailing list in the g c h q watch lists all-in-one smart move wesley clark

2:22:32 of the Wesley Clark five, not seven. The same Stanley North Carolina version of Wesley Clark one two three four five which I need an F cancer and he needs a good F cancer at the end we'll do it again jobs enough cancer for everybody Adam Duke in Leicester Leicestershire in UK We have a birthday call out for him coming up 108 dollars Brian Warden Downs Illinois It's coming out of his false teeth budget After John Capslock Dvorak punched them all out with an Ebola stunner. Stunner! Capslock. And he wants a job, karma?

2:23:09 We got a job. I just want to say, I don't remember his name but we were we'd gone shopping in Houston which really means Mickey tricked me into going to buy a shirt because I never wanted you know and then he needed the shirt yeah I need Tim my H&M stuff is falling apart it's made you know it's made wherever there's H&M and Austin Yeah, but she was tricking me. I know there's H&M and all...she was tricking me we went to Express which is kind of a level up from... L'Express! Whatever. And i'm sitting there like at a fountain some guy says are you Adam Kurzy? In the morning! Hey! Of course I forgot his name so I said I'm a producer and um I'm buying a tie at Banana Republic because I got a job interview

2:23:53 So I'll give him job karma as well. Of course, I forgot his name feel stupid and you forgot his name But you can remember numbers you said yes only numbers Matthew Mattel Mattel Macieux, Macieux, Haley. Haley in Gatineau Quebec $133. Christine Zachman in Last Wages Nevada SACA 7 You skip over the fact that he felt he had to donate because of the 97% consensus extrapolation That was excellent by the way I want to get together with you and get all those things because I think it's worth article worthy

2:24:31 to an extreme. I want to write it up and give you the byline so we don't have... Really? Or a co-byline, because if i write it you can take credit Well it'll be something that will say, actually be a co-byline or Adam Curry contributed to this No no no! I'm not putting that in there. I think that's chicken shit to do that You have to know John C. DeVorek & Adam Curry Wow! And then we get an agenda show The dynamic duo Yeah why not? You need some of those things Superpowers Sir Mike Sh... I got you on that. Hey, I got it! Super power! I have super powers...super Tourette's powers. Sir Mike Schumacher, Baronet Sir Mike Can we get it peer reviewed? Our paper? In Kelsey yeah, it'll be peer reviewed

2:25:16 Kelseyville, California 6969 Joseph Costello in Pittston Pennsylvania. Sorry do you do Christine Zachman because I think he might have skipped her and yeah, I said Christine Zachman SACA 7 plus Shut up now. No, you're all giddy now. Hi. Just a stella pits in Pennsylvania Adam Curry published author George Vanderhorst sorry George for you 6969 Richard Hedenberg in Salmon, Sweden 6960 and he's got a birthday. Sir Tim Tillman the baronet Tim Tillman and Prince George Virginia 6660 so we're gonna do this cut we're doing the contest again on Saturday The contest? Oh yeah oh Sunday it's gonna be I'm gonna ship that email out on Saturday So be aware of the email

2:26:14 Maurice Tate in Vallejo, California 6660 David Han in Sydney New South Wales 6660. These are all 6660s not that many David Helm Fargo North Dakota Station X LLC and Little Rock Arkansas Itay Sekele Zekely? Zekely. It could be Zekely. It's from Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv! And finally, Colin Sloman in... Sir Grebulon is who that is. Sir Grebulon Oh, Grebulon Where's Grebulon? It's Sir Grebulon Oh okay well that's where we get it normally Colin Sloman in London

2:26:58 5510 from Eric Young in Salt Lake City and Catherine Lee in Malaysia. Oh, Malaysia! They don't have too many Malaysians who've been donating. Email sent to John I hope he gets it I guess you got it. I don't know that i did but, I'll look and see if there's something that we need to read on the Sunday show okay sir Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia 650 69 these are all $50 donors and we just run through them for your listening pleasure as I move the spreadsheet down a little bit yeah you can always tell when you're doing that Paul Girdo in Barong New South Wales

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CHAPTER 34 / 43 Discussion

Parenting Advice, Two-Wheeled Vehicles

In response to a listener's request, Adam and John offer advice for a nine-year-old girl. Adam advises against riding any vehicle with two wheels or less, including motorcycles and Segways. John suggests taking children to high-end restaurants early to develop their standards for future dating.

parenting· advice· motorcycles· segway· restaurants· ear piercing

2:29:23 No! This is gonna be in the top three, we'll get a special mention. Please, no please please please just do a number of this it's gonna it's not oh it's not gonna end well all right fine you mean add a penny to it or something like that? I'd...do whatever you want okay how about this I'll take your advice. No I would actually like you to try it out but I'd like to know if it works You're right. It probably won't work it'll be too much of a mess I will be able to spot the ones then we get an angry emails. I Have documentation that I was the first quick little special mention here from sir d8 slammer my daughter Simona is feeling left out of the no agenda family experience since dad is a knight mom is our way on her way to Dame hood and Andrew got a Freddy the firewall call-out

2:30:11 Maybe the guardians of reality can impart some wisdom for a young lady nine years going on 17. Well, we both have daughters John do we have any salient advice? I don't know Do we have any salient advice for a 9 year old stay away from boys Don't get it tattooed! Wait until you're 17 before you get an ear piercing Really, what's wrong with the ear piercing? I think it gets encouraging younger and you like younger until you end up with these babies with your piercings. It's kind of creepy But not fully developed yet You know, you don't want to put holes in yourself until you've grown up What is 17? Yeah, well 70 is an arbitrary age 16 you make a 16. I don't care Here's here's what I say not 9. I'm gonna give advice to dad and daughter Okay its transportation advice

2:31:08 It's a very important one. Number 1, daughter do not get on any vehicle that has two wheels or less just stay away from it you say no I don't i promise my dad i do not got get on vehicles with two wheels or less 2 Dad tell your daughter if you ever need a ride home for whatever reason You're drunk, whatever. No questions asked! Call me? Promise no questions asked I'll pick you up take you home no questions asked that is the deal So your advising people not to get on a Segway Is that what your talking about Absolutely Get off of that thing

2:31:51 Don't get on a unicycle, but I would also say you should take your daughter to high-end restaurants at an early age Get him get him used to some what's good Yeah that way they won't get cheaped out by some boyfriend when they start dating later. Good point Hey What is this McDonalds crap? Te quiero Taco Bell All right for everybody who needs some jobs karma regular karma and f cancer karma here it comes Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Youthbox, come on. Alright lovely and we have no nightings today sadly however we do want to remind everybody contest coming up subscribe the newsletter is always in the show notes you can find those at 641.noagendanotes.com and go help us with a donation to vorac.org slash n

CHAPTER 35 / 43 Discussion

Abby Martin, Joe Rogan Experience Interview

Abby Martin's appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience is critiqued for her use of profanity and her "vitriolic" comments about former colleague Liz Wall. Martin claims Wall was a "pawn" for neocon think tanks like the Foreign Policy Initiative. The hosts find Martin's ego and unprofessionalism revealing of her character.

abby martin· joe rogan· liz wall· rt· neocon· foreign policy initiative

2:32:46 And we have a couple of birthday call outs. Jacob Duhlman turns 30 today, Adam Duke celebrates today as well and Richard Hedenberg turns 32 tomorrow! Happy Birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe! Hey hey hey! Alright I gotta do a little eff Russia stuff what are we at on time? Yeah we got to hurry up We got what? We're almost at two and a half. Abby Martin was on the Joe Rogan experience Oh yeah, she was bragging about she's gonna be on Joe Rogan there's like they're gonna be the greatest thing of her life She was on Twitter just going on and on about it Did you listen? No

2:33:36 And the Joe Rogan experience is really a perfect companion, really. If you want to...you know if you have enough time to listen everything because he has people on and interviews them it really gets interesting not always but he can get pretty deep with people. Yeah I agree. I think he does. I think one of the... Larry King's a good interviewer too but i still think the greatest interviewer in the world is Howard Stern Oh total agreement I mean, it's people to say stuff they should not say. He's a little one-sided but i'm a huge fan and I oftentimes find myself emulating some of the early Howard Stern just...it's in there, I can't help it! But Abby Martin was on Joe Rogan Experience and I found this to be fascinating because there are two things that pop out well three actually one foul mouth

2:34:30 You thought I was bad. Oh, Abby Martin? Yeah! She's got a foul mouth?! Now i'll say... Why am I not surprised? I find her to be a phony she just a phony in my eyes. Well she's- No let me finish my thing. Okay go on now just listen She talks a big game. Her show is produced by, I think poorly written...I don't think she writes it herself. She's very bad at reading. Over-dramatizes the whole opening leader of her in a helicopter. It's three minutes too long. And she's breaking the set, I hate the title, well I don't hate it but it's dumb breaking the set! What are you breaking? What does that mean? You're not breaking anything and then she does these dramatic walks past the camera... No no it's not working, it seems over dramatized and phony. Then she's a horrible interviewer. Oh the worst

2:35:29 You want to say, you want to add something? No no I'm in total agreement with everything all your observations. I find her to be annoying she's not as polished that she should have having worked as much as she has on this show and elsewhere and she is kind of a knee-jerk liberal And she has a huge ego! As we're about the find out Oh... Her ego problem is with What was her best friend, her homie? Her BFF was the chicky who quit on air.

2:36:06 They were tight. Liz Wall? They were friends, they were tight! Now you're going to hear some information here which you heard in an analysis from the No Agenda show immediately namely that Liz Wall was working with the FBI as a foreign policy institute that's where the Kagans are and they were tweeting her oh something big is happening so they were all in on that so this is no news to us but Abby Abby's really foul-mouthed and angry, and her ego is quite ugly. If anyone has watched House of Cards that's exactly how this shit actually operates in DC. That's exactly how this shit operates in DC you know? What do ya think John? Is this how the shit operates in D.C.?

2:36:43 Do you hear this? If anyone's watched House of Cards, that's exactly how this shit actually operates in DC. Like I made the statement and then this girl Liz Wall which was my colleague and actually one of my best friends in D.C., saw all the attention that I was getting And she was just like a newsreader very generic never heard her voice any opinions Two days after this happened I was getting all this international press and then so she resigns live on air She stole my thunder bitch What international press is she talking about Um... What is she talking about? Al Jazeera?! Well, that's the whole point. And so first she says... What international? What all this what was the attention? How many? OK, just play and stop interrupting and let's listen to it then analyze I'll roll it back a little bit because I love how she said some girl but she used to be my best friend like a newsreader very generic never heard her voice in opinions two days after this happened I was getting all this international press and then so she resigned live on air and is like I can't work for Primone

2:37:44 This is a horrible network and we're, and you know I'm for the truth. And I am like pro-American and all this shit." An then she got picked up and lauded all this shit. Then I found out that there was actually this think tank called The Foreign Policy Initiative. Let's just stop here for a moment because it's not going to come back to this. This is really telling about this woman! She stole my...I was getting on with international press but she had to trump me by quitting on air. Stupid news reader! She has no opinions! She's a news reader And she took away this woman who used to be my best friend. This woman, wow! Or this girl? Yeah it's pathetic! Rogan must be just...

2:38:25 Having fun with this props to Rogan Good I mean way to go to get this out of Abbey great work. It's fucking weird fucking full of neoconservatives It's the same people who started the Iraq war Bill Kristol You know all these motherfuckers who basically forced us into a rock They're like the most militant neo con faction of the entire DC establishment They've resurrected into a new think-tank called the foreign policy initiative and I found out that Liz was like essentially being used by these people These people Probably reached out to her and they just said like look we're gonna like help you get this media tour behind you because their whole Platform if you look at their mission statement, they want a new Cold War with Russia That's what the FBI is all about. And then you saw Liz working with these dudes Like she was fucking idiot pawn who was basically used by all these dudes in this neocon tank To spread their agenda dudes Dudes not just dudes how about that? Huh?

2:39:24 Wow. She was used by all of these dudes. KAYGAAAAAAA! Which would be nice if you'd mention that, if she actually talked about some of the actual politics behind it but just all about her and her not getting depressed because she had an opinion and she was a real journalist And she's not just some news reader. Wow that was... That was terrible. It was vitriolic. That was really nasty Yeah that shows you how she is Do not go on and be like that, people. Anyone out there with a little media training? You just heard an example of how not to do it! Yeah you know... You say oh yeah she's I'm sorry that she left. You know you don't speak ill of the dead. And he totally brought attention to her what i couldn't even remember her name. Thanks for bringing it up. Unbelievable

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit, Turkish Pipeline Prophecy

A listener points out that the 2014 film *Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit* features a plot involving a Turkish pipeline designed to bypass Russian energy dominance. The hosts discuss how Hollywood often foreshadows geopolitical events and serves as a vehicle for propaganda.

jack ryan· shadow recruit· hollywood· turkey· pipeline· russia

2:40:20 I knew you'd like that. Oh, it's frightening and i liked that the Joe Rogan did this You know gives me a reason to play something from his show? I like it a lot Well tells you that yeah, can't get stuff over there regular media. No no no On the NO AGENDA show... In the morning! Wasn't sure how all of this connects or if it does, but I found it pretty odd. I travel about once a month for work and to kill time on the plane sometimes I'll buy a video on iTunes to watch This time I bought Jack Ryan's Shadow Recruit movie released in 2014. In the movie about 10-15 minutes in and what sets off the plot is the explanation of the US installing a Turkish pipeline that will defy Russia's dominance in Europe

2:41:08 In the movie, Russia calls it an economic act of war. This is pretty good! There's some big stars in this movie too. Whenever Hollywood is connected to events then you know its a really big set up and the timing is great Good work on that, guys. Yeah there'd be some propaganda in there what was it? What was it did our listener producer tell us? A glance appears to be foreshadowing what is currently taking place... There's some code in there! We'll have to watch it I guess if we want to get the code It probably is Here's something I learned this is kind of funny The- Our king In the Netherlands

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

King of the Netherlands, Putin Greek Neighbor

The King of the Netherlands has reportedly purchased a large estate in Greece, where Vladimir Putin is also a neighbor. This follows a controversy regarding the King's previous property in Mozambique. The hosts discuss the escalating tensions between NATO and Russia over Ukraine and the potential for war.

netherlands· greece· vladimir putin· king willem-alexander· mozambique· pipelines

2:41:58 formerly known as Prince Pils, the beer prince. Now king who has a Queen Magzema from Argentina smoking hot what a reward that guy gets yeah He so they had bought a house in Mozambique and that was a big problem. You know, it was not politically correct So they had to sell that so they bought a huge piece of land and have harbored their building in their own harbor Which is now also controversy in Greece because this is where all the elites are And then you know, they're buying up entire what used to be pilot public beaches islands Yeah, and I built this huge house and I don't think it's big news yet But it will be his neighbor

2:42:43 Any ideas? What could be the worst neighbor? Who's the worst neighbor? If you're the king of the kingdom of The Netherlands and you have this place in Greece which is already, you know... You bought up and that is already annoying. The bushes? No. Putin! Putin?! Yeah, Putin has a house next door. I thought Rumpoy would become the first. No, Putin Who's got a place in Greece and he's next to this guy? Yeah. Wow, the neighbor! Why not go ahead very good we're trying to make Russia look really crazy now I think this may be a meme the tank biathlon This is...I don't know if it was really true but news reports about bizarre new sport invented by Russian military It's just like a biathlon but with tanks These guys are so crazy man they play games with tanks

2:43:38 Yeah, they're really trying to discredit a lot. Meanwhile there is some actual news... Armenia now there's fighting going on in Armenia it's Azerbaijan and Armenia if you look at the map which everyone should do from time to time and you'll see that Armenia is kind of an annoying spot for for the pipelines coming from Azerbaijan, Baku. This is where all the US companies are Hillary, the Eurovision Song Contest and I'm pretty sure... Does Russia have a big hand in Armenia? Is that how it works? Not that I know of. It's possible! The Armenians they're always pissed off about being recognized for genocide or killed. Yeah, the Turks had a genocidal moment and killed like a lot of Armenians millions yeah And then pushed them into their little hole where they are now

2:44:27 And the Armenians have been irked about this because nobody seems to want to acknowledge that it happened. And everyone's, you know...and the Turks have never been admonished. I thought they admitted it. I thought they admitted it this year from time-to-time someone comes out and says something like, yeah we did that, that happened, yeah that happened." What they need is they need the Kardashians to say something about them people will care. They're Armenians! Yeah, so they should do that. And then let's see what do we have on Russia? I had something... Oh Putin did a 20 billion dollar oil deal with Iran which is floating under the radar as news which of course would break all the sanctions So you're seeing the lines being drawn very very clearly They are now discussing and there's uh.. What's his name? The foreign minister

2:45:21 I can't even pronounce his name, which is a problem. Sergei Glazyev and he went on TV did a roundtable conversation i think it's the assistant form he's kind of like an undersecretary of foreign affairs right? And this video is subtitled...it's in the show notes And in this he's essentially saying, look America is controlling the puppet regime in Kiev. They've got about 50 thousand neo-Nazis now all over the place. There's genocide in eastern Ukraine. The whole idea bring Russia down and we have kind of little time to move on this, particularly with the moves being made in NATO. Breedlove just came out and said, oh NATO's ready for Ukrainian defense because they have the friendly agreement with the EU and by extension a little bit with NATO. And I haven't verified independently that the translation is correct but if you're listening

2:46:20 You hear a lot of the things that are in the subtitles. It sounds like he's talking about it I have to get that verified, but I have no reason to believe it's not true what he saying He probably is just as crazy as the Kagans But there's some pretty harsh talk about you know what we essentially have Deconstructed as well. This is Newland who was married to Kagan The whole idea is to push Russia back to screw them now Russia wants a No-Fly Zone I love this. Just like Libya, so they will not allow any international flights over Russia was a pretty big area to not be allowed to fly over and that makes it a big deal. So this is then according to the to our guy at the Dutch

2:47:12 consulate business support office there in the Netherlands. And he's a complete crackpot, but he is on board with our analysis, on board with everything that is happening and he says this Russia thing...that is really really serious and this is not going to end. You know the Dutch guys they always know that war is coming. Remember we had an email from someone? An ambassador said oh my god it's gonna be war with Russia And look at where we are now. That was a couple months ago, do you remember? Yeah no they're hyper sensitive to it for some reason So it truly is happening and I find it... Yeah thank you Kagan's Thank You John Kerry Thank You Obama for doing nothing Well he's just totally

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Israel-Gaza Conflict, European Anti-Semitism

The hosts discuss the media's focus on civilian casualties in Gaza while ignoring similar violence in Eastern Ukraine. They suggest the lopsided coverage is fueling anti-Jewish riots across Europe, particularly in France and the Netherlands. They analyze the situation as a deliberate attempt to create social strife within the EU.

israel· gaza· anti-semitism· netherlands· france· riots· propaganda

2:48:06 He's just doing, yeah he is doing nothing. It's very strange how he's just gonna ride this out... It's kind of like he's like, screw it! We got a year and half we do this, we go the house in Palm Springs, you know, we'll get all kinds of payoffs, shut up Michelle, SHUT UP! Brought to you by Clan Cagan. Then Israel-Palestine, I cannot go on the show without talking about this for a moment because i have kind of a theory brewing... Can I mention one thing before you do that? Of course! There was some talk radio and somebody pointed out there's in fact they have a bunch of clips for maybe Sunday of the guy who wrote the book from

2:48:50 David to Goliath, how Israel has been repositioned by the world's media. How they will have these... They won't show pictures of the kids in the school that were shot up? Oh yeah! They show Gaza kids, Gaza kids, Gaza kids and they showed nothing from Eastern Ukraine where this same kind of children and women bloodbath has taken place. There is nothing we see nothing So, there's just all targeting Israel in terms of the negative publicity. There is nothing that targets them obviously why would we? The Kiev government for being brutal bastard Nazis but anyway they pointed that out I thought it was an interesting observation because I haven't seen anything either you see once in a while on RT you might see something.

2:49:42 I am thinking that there's more to this. And the reason why it's so...because this could end very simply, very easily, very quickly. There are so many...why does this keep going on and coming up? But I believe it has to do with a combination of messaging we've been receiving because this is...I do think it's connected and this is the whole Caliphate, ISIS, Jihadi Disneyland. They're coming to America they're gonna blow us up but more importantly the thousands of jihadis who are now in coming home they have European passports and they're in Europe and EU countries then we sometimes forget or just gloss over the incredible influx

2:50:32 immigrants into the EU who are Muslim. And of course I have first-hand experience with this in the Netherlands, Amsterdam is no longer safe for homosexuals You get beat up, you can't hold hands anymore. It's really really disappointing what has happened there but this is now been going on for 10-15 almost 20 years Belgium they don't...they call it Belgistan for a reason Scandinavia also in Germany France Paris entire streets are shut down when when it's time to pray five times a day What was the city in southern France? Lyon

2:51:10 Leon is it's completely Muslim Islamified and with what I'm seeing here with the continuous ongoing battle and the way It's positioned on television, which is very interesting if you would if you knowing that so much of this I know this is a horrible thing to say and please Anti-defamation League and all the ship. You know, I've gotten in trouble for saying this before but yeah, of course we have a lot of Jews in American media and And all I hear is complaining about how Israel's being put in a negative light. And I'm thinking it almost seems like it's on purpose at this point and the purpose, what it feels like to me from an American Israeli standpoint... ...is to cause crap in Europe! And it's working

2:51:58 Well, I'm not gonna argue that theory because i was thinking something similar because there's too much of it. And again, I point out nobody shows the school kids getting blown up but they show incessantly Gaza and then they have the NBC guys pulled out And then you have all these guys carping and moaning and groaning. And then, coincidentally there's all these not anti-Israeli riots in Europe... Anti-Jew riots!

2:52:36 And they point this out. It's about, let's gas them! Let's finish the job and all the stuff that they do... Old ladies being beat up because they have an Israeli flag... Showing you the ugly underbelly which may be something they wanted to expose Dutch chief rabbi Benjamin Jacobs ponders... Benjamin Jacobs has been attacked five times his house in the Netherlands He is a Jewish community leader And this is the Netherlands where we hid Jews in basements during the Second World War. I am now seeing articles, ISIS spread makes Europe a tinderbox

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

ISIS Caliphate, Mossad Operative Theory

A theory attributed to Edward Snowden claims that ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is actually a Mossad-trained operative named Elliot Shimon. While skeptical of the source, the hosts discuss the "Jihadi Disneyland" narrative as a potential Western intelligence operation designed to radicalize European Muslims and justify military intervention.

isis· edward snowden· al-baghdadi· mossad· psychological warfare· amsterdam

2:53:19 So imagine you've got... As, to be honest about it as if it had anything to do with ISIS. No of course not! This ISIS thing I'm convinced is an American scam. Oh completely, completely the whole thing is bogative and we know we know ISIS uh I think even Snowden although I can't trace this back to Snowden himself there's reports that Snowden said here it is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the so called caliph the head of ISIL According to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, so that's you know I have an actor named Elliot Shimon a Mossad trained operative is actually al-Baghdadi. I love this they got the guy from central casting which i would believe Simon Elliott or Elliott Shimon aka... That why he doesn't want his picture taken! Yes Al Baghdadi Let's look at that part objectively how many of these guys ever don't want to have their pictures taken? Yeah They're always in front and center

2:54:21 They're always front and center. They're always, look we did it they like these are the group these radicals or the groups that like to brag oh we blew the place up right? And then a guy likes to be in front of a camera this guy's camera shy Why? Why is he camera-shot, what's he worried about? So I'll read the article. This is the same information everywhere but again...I don't hear Edward Snowden saying it and I doubt he did but I like that I like this good trick Elliot Shimon aka al Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and as a Mossad agent which is easy to say we offer below three translations here from the Caliph Al Baghdadi proving that he's a full Mossad agent

2:54:59 Real name is Simon Elliot. The so-called Elliot was recruited by the Israeli Mossad and was trained in espionage and psychological warfare against Arab Islamic societies This information was attributed to Edward Snowden and published by newspapers and other websites I know it's shitty, but i do like the idea. I like the idea you know that whether or not he's even Mossaud I'd be more inclined to think as American But so but they're talented the Mossad's talented. They could pull this off So look at what you just said about the and we've been noticing this of course dead children dead children Dead children nowhere else that we see dead children in any story We don't see any dead Israeli, we don't see dead Israeli soldiers nothing This is pure propaganda it makes no sense to not show

2:55:54 you know, horrible images of dead children in every other instance. Can't even listen to the 9-11 tapes of Newtown because it's so disturbing! They don't even disclaim dead children anymore on CNN. They don't even say, oh this could be disturbing! They do not even say that anymore so this has to be some form of propaganda meant to create strife against Israel and it's not happening here in the United States. Yeah we change our Twitter icon whatever but In Europe, there are... I sent a video that had no voiceover of Muslim youth attacking police cars in Paris. And the cops are like they're barely getting away with their lives! Yeah So it seems like you know It's definitely working in terms if you want to create a lot of Muslim hate They've definitely fallen for it so who is radicalizing who?

2:56:53 People will find out at the end of the day, but I thought my I'm an agreement This is something very suspicious about this because it comes up out of the blue. We see no it's not comparative There's you can't use like the dead children are only seen in one One arena the rest of its all cover your eyes You're right exactly way they would put it and now we're seeing these riots in Europe which are you know? I'd I would say if I'm on the side of the of the Israelis trying to prove a point that I think i'm being very successful proving a point that people are not paying attention to. Look what's happening these guys are building up and you yourself talk about this, you noticed it they're building up dangerous numbers in Europe and watch how easy they are to set off this is not...this is a dangerous situation we're proving it nobody's saying we're proving it but they are proving it and now what are you going to do?

2:57:46 Well, what do you think the solution... So if this is a threat to showboats? I don't even think it's a threat! I think they want it to happen. Just have crap happen in Europe. I think it's to have crap happen in Europe, to bring to the fore the problem that you identified in Holland which is that you can't be...the free country of or the free city of Amsterdam two gays can't even hold hands without fear of getting beat up. Let alone three gays! There ya go. Whatever the case this is bringing attention a light

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

Iron Dome Defense, Raytheon Debit Card

The effectiveness of Israel's Iron Dome defense system is questioned, with some experts claiming a near-zero interception rate for artillery rockets. The hosts suggest the system is "outrageous theater" and serves primarily as a financial pipeline to defense contractor Raytheon. President Obama recently signed a $225 million bill to fund the system.

iron dome· israel· raytheon· interceptor· military spending· theater

2:58:24 lighting up the problem, bringing attention to the problem and is doing a very good job of it. And then of course Israelis have to eat crap for being these butchers but in fact you know they have an argument that we're defending ourselves which reminds me this defending themselves thing this whole thing I said this a long time ago and i'm still wondering about Play the clip, Iron Dome is it bull crap? Yeah. I'm with you on that. Then President Obama signs a $225 million emergency spending bill to enhance Israel's iron dome defense system but does iron dome actually work

2:59:06 I would not spend money on an interceptor that has a near zero chance of intercepting an artillery rocket. The interceptor probably costs well in excess of $100,000 per interceptor and it's maybe achieving a 5% rate, maybe could be lower against rockets that maybe cost $1,000 each or $500 each. What's with the Dave Cost jazz music? You know this is like this is democracy now trying to bring up their game and they have they're tasteless it's a you can just take a look at Amy Goodman Intel It's a tasteless run operation and they think there's jazz music let's put a little what's-it called Kenny G

2:59:52 No, let's put... What is it called? A floor. What's the term for a track? A music background. Music bed. Let's put a bed behind her and what are we going to use? Oh let's use some jazz instead of you know what you would use on ESPN that actually is attractive but besides that I wonder about this myself because this whole thing may be theater I'm, I am so with you John. We've got the app that goes off which is really just a message board where people yelled...I hate Jews! I hate Muslims! You know the red alert app or whatever but so what? The app went off that's proof no it's not proof. Oh Iron Dome! A rocket goes up and you see an explosion but at night you didn't see the other thing come up. I'm sure stuff has fallen down.

3:00:44 I'm gonna be in agreement with you. This whole thing feels to me, my bullshit detector is going off... this is some kind of outrageous theater and seriously? They clearly don't give a crap they could just get rid of this whole problem so quickly it could be done quickly but I really don't know what the truth is You cannot believe anything that's being said And also if you have any alternative opinion you get shouted down is very annoying. That's happening in mainstream media too, but you bet Israel hater! It just feels completely off it's so off I cannot understand the messaging Israel evil and show dead Palestinian children that messaging just makes no sense because that's the only messaging we're getting yeah i know it's very straight up

3:01:41 And then we do get to see the riots. Yes, and we'll keep our eye on it there's a couple of stories in the show notes of different riots going on I think Victoria Nuland said it and she meant it! She meant it man We don't give a shit about you, we're gonna screw you Yeah, we gave them the... We let the Israelis play this out. We gave them 200 million bucks here to buy some more of these things. Shoot em off! $100,000 a pop? Holy crap! Nice huh?! And that's all Raytheon It's basically a debit card to Raytheon. That's exactly what they did with the crappy Patriot from years ago Didn't do anything I have just a couple funny clips kind of interesting to play at the end here Okay This is uh Now we know that we had that tweet bot

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

iPhone 6 Launch, Russian Hacker Story

Apple is expected to unveil the iPhone 6 on September 9, 2014. Meanwhile, the hosts dismiss a New York Times report about Russian hackers stealing 1.2 billion passwords as a "bogus" cybersecurity sales pitch. They also critique former NSA Director Keith Alexander's attempts to monetize his expertise through private consulting.

iphone 6· apple· russian hackers· cybersecurity· keith alexander· patents

3:02:44 tracking and retweeting any edits made to Wikipedia that came from Congress or anywhere on Capitol Hill, essentially government-changing Wikipedia pages? Oh before... okay. I was just thinking maybe i should throw a clip in before we get off the completely off the topic Wait! You mean we have tech news?! Oh well there's tech news Well hold ON a second Oh, do we want to do tech news? Well I mean might as well. I do have some tech news. Oh good is there a new phone out? Play the clip! iPhone users you're gonna mark this one on your calendar Apple reportedly planning to hold a media event on Tuesday September 9th many are expecting that is the date that the company will unveil its new iPhone 6 The speculation is for two different sizes of iPhones

3:03:34 Tuesday the 9th of September phone phone phone well that was under slave training today show by the way Which I've decided that the Today Show is and those morning shows are all slave training. I have documentation for this No, I wanted to talk about this I just want to get us out of the way since we're talking about Putin and then there's other all the bullcrap That's going on. Oh, I have a lovely Putin shout hold up please wait This is little girl Luna two years old pretend Yeah, kids love our show. They love the Putin thing? Yeah they love the Putin. This story's been going on and on and it's just a Russian hacker story there is nothing! There is no...there's not one concrete piece of heaven that this is just a smoothie. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Look at! Ready for it? Hit it

3:04:26 Taking a look at the headlines, it could be the biggest security breach ever. Russian hackers reportedly have stolen 1.2 billion user names and passwords in thefts affecting more than 400 thousand websites The New York Times is not identifying any of the web sites that were broken into Hackers have also collected about 500 million email addresses Okay they won't identify one site? Oh, that would be horrible because you know because they have no proof. They've got no proof there's no story here this is a bogus story I totally agree And everybody's playing it up. Yeah, well it's time for cyber you know everyone's jumping in by the way Stek did a lot of work on trying to figure out Kaiser Alexander's claims of his patents and everything. He can't find any he's a patenter. It's total bullcrap so this IronNet cybersecurity has eight investors who own the company total capital invested $845

3:05:26 There's also no confirmation of this million dollars a month. Then really what Kaiser Alexander is doing, he says if I retired from the army as a brain surgeon wouldn't it be okay for me to go into private practice and make money doing brain surgery? I'm a cyber guy! Can't I go to work and do cyber stuff?! And then his firm is developing as many as 10 patents. This is a sales job and he sucks at it because... Yeah, he's not like your buddy's, uh, what was his name? Chernobyl or Chertoff? Chertoff! No, he's doing a crap job. No, Chertoff is genius. He's a marketing genius. Alexander is a moron. Apparently... He has no patents nothing filed not even a provisional that we can find

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

Wikipedia Bans, Arwa Damon Biting Incident

Wikipedia issued a 10-day ban on edits from Capitol Hill after disruptive changes were made to Donald Rumsfeld's biography. In other news, CNN reporter Arwa Damon is facing a lawsuit for allegedly biting two EMTs while intoxicated. The hosts joke about Damon being a "reptilian shapeshifter" due to her erratic behavior.

wikipedia· donald rumsfeld· arwa damon· cnn· biting· lawsuit

3:06:16 Okay, and he's defending this just so we it's just a sales job and is sad. He's shitty at it okay? Why is it Star Trek guy what do you expect yeah I Have more tech news oh no We have a new meme Tech up Tech up yes This is the Verizon slogan Tech Up for school with the latest most innovative smartphones, but now it's a verb Tech up Let me see, I'm not going to play that. You had something to finish the show with? Yeah well have a couple clips here's the so here's the Wikipedia edits made by computers and users of these computers on Capitol Hill, Capitol Hill by Congress and some of these pages because of the blatant abuse have now been put on hold no edits for three weeks in the penalty box you go

3:07:12 Wikipedia is... just look at my wiki page and I encourage everybody to mess it up. Adam Curry sees himself as, what does it say there? Bicurious! However he's considering heteroflexibility. Who puts that in there on their wiki page?! Now this, but it's a joker. This is even better. The New York Post says Wikipedia is blocking members of the House from making edits on the website. The online encyclopedia issued a 10-day ban. Wikipedia says disruptive editing is going too far. This month someone revised the biography of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld It said he was an quote alien lizard who eats Mexican babies I don't think that's true No its not She doesn't think it's true But she doesn't know for sure

3:07:59 I would like that on my wiki page, please. I would like to say I eat Mexican babies That would be my favorite and this story but I love this story. I wish there was a video of it I Love it because this woman has annoyed me ever since she kind of came onto the scene in the Middle East arwah Damon who works for CNN She's kind of cute if you google her. A-R-W-A D-A-M-O-N Her beat has been Iraq And apparently something's wrong with Arwa. Now she was on assignment and apparently she hadn't eaten much but she had a few drinks, and so she became unruly while she became unruly She allegedly bit two individuals who filed the lawsuit against her now according to the lawsuit that has been filed in the New York State Supreme Court

3:08:50 Damon has a quote, history of becoming intoxicated and abusive. And just to give you all a better sense of what the plaintiffs are claiming Charles Simons and Tracy Lamar EMTs who were working for private contractor alleged in a suit that they were providing assistance to an intoxicated Damon when she bit and threatened them while saying that she was quote, a major reporter for CNN. I can call broth anytime. I want that she was biting them both pretty furiously She has good teeth eventually they subdued her I can just imagine this chick drunk We need a jingle for her a drunk jingle, but I have to pay attention now if she's drunk on the air Oh, I don't think so. I think this story there's something else behind this storm not sure what oh

3:09:46 Well, if you look her up on Google Images they have the different little sub things you can look at. Boyfriend, husband, Vogue... I guess she was in Vogue Magazine and then reptilian! She shows up as a reptilian Yeah there is a theory that she's a shapeshifter Well if you look at enough pictures of her see where that comes from Whenever she's on camera, the video glitches a lot. I'm using the word glitches. Yeah you use the word glitches! But a video glitch is... that's exactly what it is. It's like a blip or blurb of disturbance. Yes because that's why yeah and they say that's because she's a shapeshifter. I'm down with that

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

Radio Shack Liquidation, TRS-80 Collectibles

John Dvorak discusses the impending bankruptcy of Radio Shack, noting the company has very little cash remaining. Adam Curry mentions purchasing vintage TRS-80 equipment on eBay as collectibles. The show concludes with a reminder about the upcoming newsletter contest and the Sunday broadcast.

radio shack· trs-80· receivership· retail· ebay· bankruptcy

3:10:31 Yeah, you okay? Yeah me too. I just-I just like the idea that uh... No there's a bunch of them looking at this now and they got pictures of us bro! I think i'm gonna puke Well thats because I think lizards can't drink thats the key There he goes where did you go? Uh no im here I was thinking I was contemplating Oh Im gonna puke! And I know Brolf do you know who I am?! Thats what Brolf means That's Ralph I just love the idea. And then, as finalizing tech news actually...I forgot to do that. Um..I have ordered a couple things from the eBays which i never do. Okay! I have ordered 101 project kit with book and wires and a TRS-80 model 100 with acoustic phone coupling modem cups What? Why?! Because Radio Shack is about to go out of business

3:11:35 Oh, and you think it's a collectible? It is for me. They have 4,000 stores and only $62 million in cash left... And the creditors won't even give them enough money to shut down more stores. I know they have a problem I don't know why somebody doesn't bail them out. Well, for what? They've completely ruined everything! No they got real estate their book value is like 75 cents and the stock is 60 cents...I mean come on there's you know this is an opportunity well the question is with all of the downsizing of a real estate would you buy it all in one go? I think you'd have to. These are good storefronts many those are well located

3:12:17 They're established. Yeah, they're next to other out of... Cheap! It's cheap to get the land early it's not like they bought this stuff during their run up But this is no longer a play I mean retail outlets is You keep an eye on this thing I think it's something to watch Well I This would be the strategy if someone wants to get real cheap just wait until they are in receivership and then grab it No that can happen That's also possibility Anyway, okay. You got anything else? No I'm just looking at pictures of this lizard woman she does have a lot of looks She has an interesting look so I kind of like her now that I know she's a sauce bunny Yeah you can finally find someone that you can out drink

3:13:08 You know, with my two drink minimum maximum. That's about it. Two drinks and in the bag? Yeah, it's completely... She has a husband! Oh who is her husband what does he do? I don't know there's no if you click on Arua Damon Husband in the list There's not one picture of her husband just all more pictures of her Excuse me but I'm an ethical journalist. I only report the news I manufacture. Ugh, I want to blow ya. Ugh man this place sucks It's like a desert. And Rolf is in Israel on the beach, fucker! I can just see her being really really funny drunk but not the biting stuff. Eh, biting That's not so nice Uh, okay Part of our biting coverage So remind me that i have a really uh...funny email to read about you About me? Yeah I don't wanna do it We're done for today, we've- what is way over time Why did we go so long What are we doing? Because you were the producer

3:14:09 Can't stop talking. Well, I'm a major journalist Do you know who I am? We should have major journalists What was that guy's name his name was Major Oh Major...Major is just a great name He's just called Major Yeah as Major was his name Forget it. I got a few things to talk about on Sunday Remember the newsletter with the contest everybody It's coming Good contest on Saturday. We know how much you love it! Keep an eye out for that and hopefully we uh... And get video of Arwa sauced on the air for me, will ya? You know what I'm sure she's one of those teetotalers that doesn't drink except at night If she's a biter she can't be on the air drunk It's very hard to get away with that

3:15:05 Coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I can pronounce some word. I forgot what it was I'm John C Dvorak we will be back on Sunday right here on your no agenda If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news. There's one thing you must remember no agenda in the morning For a healthy balanced news diet try noagendashow.com In the morning, in the morning, in the morning, in the morning, in the morning, in the morning, in the morning, satellites and other monitoring systems and systems special secret satellite systems moon bases. Califasia! I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen

3:15:51 Adios, mofo.