59:28 interview show and the woman is interviewing him in his office or wherever it is during the summit because of course he flew back for the summit because this is his show. This is the neocons, this is the yalies. This is the Kagan's. This is part of the whole game that as we said earlier push Russia and China off to the side We've got to get them all out of Africa. This is classic economic hitman stuff if you have not read the book this is something that our entire show was kind of based on in its genesis The book Confessions Of An Economic Hitman by John Perkins
1:00:06 who since then we think is kind of flipped to the other side or he just doesn't want to get shot. You would too if you had a gun to your head and what I like about the BBC methodology they don't ask the questions as if they have an opinion, they will always find a quote from someone who asked or said something and then they'll ask a question. So... An example would be Professor Nnambulu said that the American United States really do not have Africa's best interests at heart What is your response to this? which is a roundabout way of asking a pretty rude question, but it could also be crackpot and buzzkill. I think the size and shape of your head resembles that of a watermelon. Your response Secretary of State? So it didn't play all of those questions but this is why I think this style of interviewing gets to the heart of a lot of the questions that otherwise cannot be asked. And I encourage United States mainstream media to do this same kind...to apply this technique. It actually requires reading
1:01:07 Well, this woman I don't know who it is from Hard Talk. She's good. I appreciate it very much. Hard Talk has had its moments as a good show. Yeah okay the Deputy National Security Advisor in the White House Ben Rhodes has said as far as this Africa-US summit is concerned that US brings something unique to the table what is it that the United States can offer in terms of African policy that other nations cannot? Well what do you think the answer would be John? What do we bring to the table but other nations cannot? Security. Yes, a good one I like the security angle. Our dollars are our money as the base for all transactions Very good yeah i like that. Our good looks our whiteness yes look at our honky self man
1:01:54 We're not like those yellow people. Well, first of all I think there is no country that is as entrepreneurial and combines science and technology and innovation in the way that we do our companies are really unique in that regard and we have many of them already involved in Africa I mean, we have a company like General Electric. For years it's been doing business in Africa We have Dow Chemical for years has been doing it. I mean they've huge number of projects Do you dispute this these facts? Oh, was he just bringing out these big... First he goes on and innovation and all the rest. And then brings out these big giant corporations who are essentially exploitative at this point in their histories? They are true entrepreneur GE bringing entrepreneurialism to light. So we have experience and we don't come into a place as some countries do.
1:02:52 with a simple deal and simple finance, bring our workers in or something else. Which country is that you're thinking of? You can play with all of that. Is that China in brackets? What I'm saying is we could... He's not going to answer! Is that China in brackets?! He's not gonna answer that but he basically... Why wouldn't he answer that what a chicken shit thing to say well this is... He described the Chinese technique which was coming with simple deals then make sense then bring your own people in And that's what the Chinese do, so he... and that's what he described. Why didn't he say Chinese? This kind of thing is annoying! Well wait until you hear the rest. You're gonna point a finger?! Well he is a chicken shit and this is economic classic economic hitman stuff and he just doesn't want to worry He does bring up China later. He says the word but he just wants to keep it away and explain with all the good things we're doing and of course We know there's a meme coming up as a word
1:03:47 But of course, we know this is only about oil and minerals. That is what Africa is! That's why everyone is in it. Is that China? What I'm saying as we come in with a willingness to work in ways that train employees, build something... And increasingly people are looking at the downstream investment impacts for the long term here. Look these things evolve. Nothing happens overnight, but over the course of time I think the US brings a remarkable set of disciplines and of capacity in technology for transfer that is critical to Africa at this point. Okay so he basically said nothing other than we don't bring in our own workers like the Chinas do
1:04:34 And we have complex financial deals. We don't do anything simple where you just sign your X on the bottom line, Mr wearing a sheet with your dildo on a stick No we make it complicated but will pay you off Here comes the meme, the word that is very important because We need to give these African leaders of the nation of Africa a story. They need to go back and say, hey we're going to get health care education security and they're going to bring in democracy Yes, I'll get more money in my own private bank accounts and it's not at all about oil or anything. Please! Please the word is coming up we will use this word many times in the future You say that the United States unlike other countries does not rely on natural resources like oil and so on No of course we do that but what's the difference? We're looking much beyond that Of course we do we also have extractive and much... Extractive
1:05:35 We have extractive. That... Have you ever heard this term? I think he was trying to say something else. No, no it is a term It'll come up later in another clip This is the term they use extractive but with it and what was the context we have? Extractive yeah the extractive as in a whole industry I guess extractive instead of saying wait Wait let's back it up play the clip Backed a clip up 5-10 seconds and play it five ten seconds by your command here We go first we do we also have extractives We all, I'll back up a little more for you. No that's fine, we backed it up but then i want to hear what he says after that Yeah well you'll hear come back this is their turn on natural resources like oil and so on... No of course we do! You do? So what's the difference? Make no mistake we also take oil yeah? No no no no we're looking much beyond that Of course we do, we also have extractive and much of the relationship until recently
1:06:30 was defined by that. Our desire is to move it well beyond that, and partly because we've listened to people in Africa. We listened to, we heard them. Hear from people in Africa that they want more than just that They don't want a relationship in which they're simply exporting oil or gas or minerals of one kind or another They want to build their countries. Rare earth minerals of one kind or another They don't want that! They want more from us like money and the Swiss bank account And we respect that and understand that because it is critical to building civil society, respecting human rights and developing democracy. And ultimately being able to provide stability. Oh yes of course with all these jabronis wearing hats and carrying sticks that who hate gays kill them is disgusting
1:07:24 But of course, it may be better than the China's. Here he goes our economic hitman watermelon head Kerry and I think he does bring up China here. There are other global competitors and of course China for instance just take one statistic has 150 commercial attaches across sub-Saharan Africa you know how many the United States has? Eight. Snap! Snap! Yeah yeah we're not... You know yeah i think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States About 135 or more I love how he wheels his way out of this. Approaches between China and the United States. He said China, he actually said China! This is huge because he had to. The United States has eight. Yeah we're not you know...I think there's a difference in the approaches between China and the United States We're still the biggest investor in Africa
1:08:15 And I am convinced that out of this conference will come even more significant investment. We had a dinner last night with four presidents, four heads of government presidents from various countries all of whom were extremely excited by what they heard about the kind of partnership that is offered by the United States Look at this check! Umbutu where it is not just extractive and selling one particular kind of deal, but it's really structured and built around the needs of a particular country. And has much greater ability to be able to train workers provide workers with ongoing skills and longer term employment capacity which is very different from what other countries in other companies do
1:09:03 By the way... According to France 24, the Europeans which is mostly the French have three times more investments in Africa than the United States. He's very specific about this difference between investment and companies I don't know if i have that in the clip And the Chinese have three times more than the United States so he has obviously got some definition that is not right But okay, whatever.