Tangible Things

00:00 It was disgusting. I had to turn the show off. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 31st, 2014. It's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 639. This is no agenda. All rule followers off the island here from the South Austin Safe House in FEMA Region 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I haven't moved an inch. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's a crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. You're also not a rule follower, so you don't have to worry about it. I don't rule follow. You do not rule follow. I mean I do if there's a cop holding the baton over my head about to beat me. Well, but in general you're not just a rule follower. You know like someone who just follows the rules. But the rules are for idiots. I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it. There's lots of people who are rule followers. Let me give you some examples. Let me give you

00:56 Although she doesn't say it explicitly that way. This is Christine Lagarde, one of the most powerful people and certainly women. She's probably the second most powerful woman in the world. Yes. To hear about these matters today, please join me in giving a warm National Press Club welcome to Managing Director of the IMF, Christine Lagarde. Yeah, yeah. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes, everybody. Bonjour. Thank you so much. Merci beaucoup. As you can tell, I do as I'm told. That's right. And who else follows rules? I'm a rule follower, right? What do you do? Are you a rule follower? Oh yes, of course. As long as you've set the stage. You're just trying to get me banned from the show. Benched. Benched. In the morning there, John. How are you doing?

01:55 No, no, don't no no this was just a slight in the morning. It was not it was not a kick off. It wasn't the in the morning. No, it's just a slight little how you doing? How you doing everybody? Yeah, I'm doing okay. I'm doing okay. You're doing okay. I wanted to say something because it was funny just before we started you were looking for some pieces you have a way of managing the show And we have, we actually have an editorial system which is comprised of show notes and articles that are stored in full text offline. We built this carefully over many, many years. The digital part completely programmed, developed by Dave Jones.

02:36 And you often send me stuff to put in there, you know, all our clips, everything stored. You have Post-it notes, which unfortunately we can't really incorporate into the system. I also have the back of envelopes, but I usually leave those downstairs. And I did that again today, my dad. So I'm checking out the chat room, I'm doing the pre-stream. And someone comes in and says, hey does anyone know when the guys talked about Senate Bill 2277? I and I took this opportunity. I'd like you to do with me John I'm doing it at the beginning of the show so people understand how to utilize Your no agenda. This is your show and it's all there and I want you to see how it works. You ready? No, yes, I will be ready in a second. Do you know which is the process of getting my email? So I had the so I had it at the ready. Okay. Well, do you have a web browser? I need a web browser Yes, I'm looking at a web browser now now, which one is it?

03:31 Firefox very good. Let's go to search dot any show notes calm any better than anything else Search dot any show notes to come the brand new search dot and a show notes calm you got it up there you got I'm typing it in I have to stand to get there And I want you I'm sitting I'm looking at it now type in the text field there for the search two two seven seven Okay, right and hit search or hit return and what do you get? Loading text at s2 to 7 7 Russian aggression prevention act of 2014 and what does it say there in in brackets? It says introduced on the left on the left on the low 618 right and if you click on that link you'll see there's a full text of the the actual job actual document but 618 is the episode we discussed it on yes exactly now if you go to

04:22 Noagendaplayer.com Now you're gonna have some fun, okay? Now you're really gonna see... I know I'm having a ball already. I know! I know you're enjoying it. Okay, so go to noagendaplayer.com Yeah. And you want to go to the archive. Yeah, get all art and everything's cute. Very nice, much better than before. Right, so you want to... Yeah, go to the archive. Type in 618. Well if you like what I did this you could do that you could do that I didn't do that that way, but yeah, it's not your church for six one eight return no results Yeah, so what I did is I went to archive. It's it's it's still you know we're not Facebook. You know we're doing our best okay, so okay? Agenda play I'm gonna do it. I'm play along with you here. No agenda player calm okay, and under archive there you see

05:13 I'll just tell you where it is. It's May okay, so you could this lie. Well. How am I gonna know that well? It's numbered okay, so you see that, but it goes to the bottom it goes to six I'm gonna bitch about this okay, we'll fix that and then the bottom is 631 so I Jesus only like five shows on this page. We'll fix that we'll fix So I got a kind of guess where it might be well. Let me try me. It's me. I'm sorry it could have been better There's the Clooney clip. Okay, I found it. But if I was looking for show 202, I bet you it would take me a long time. So 618, and there we have a link that says, I think it's the fifth from the top, Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014. Right, so I click on that. Click on that. I'm clicking on it here. And then you click on it. And now I have a breakdown. And that neutrality can give that front page.

06:01 And let the American, this background go on with these... And so that is the show playing at the moment where we start talking about the Russian Negre... Prevention Act. It's over. No, probably... Hold on a second. Turn that down. Turn it down. But I don't want it playing, but I'm gonna stop it. Turn it down. Of the Senate Bill 2277. There you go. There it is. It works. Yeah, well, here's the problem with this, the way I see it. It auto plays. Well yes, it's supposed to go straight to 1 hour 26 minutes and 40 seconds. I don't know what you did. It started right at the beginning. Okay, it did for me. It worked for me. Well, it didn't work for me. Damn. Just saying. And it actually has a... And it auto played and I couldn't stop it to go click to something else. Well, do you... I'm sorry. Well, there you go.

06:54 There's nothing to be sorry about. It's fantastic. It's just not, it's fantastic. It worked for me. Well fine, it works for you. It's always funny how the developer always works for the developer. It worked for other people. And so they never do anything to fix the problems because it never works for anybody else. Well no, this will be fixed now. I had no idea. Because of a buffer, could have been for a lot of reasons it worked for you. Thank you for beta testing with us. So I beta tested, it didn't work right. But I have to say that it has the elements And what I like is that it also, you'll see down the left, has a little shortcut link to that actual spot in the file if it had actually worked. You know what, we need to get a hold of our dude's name. I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena. There was somebody whose name was... I can't even remember his last name. I think his first name may have been Ben. Oh, a guy named Ben. A dude named Ben.

07:47 I know who I am! I'm a dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude! You don't know what duty is! And there you go. Now you have to add to that little, uh, that little medley is, uh, dude looks like a lady. I don't have that handy. Dude looks like a lady. Mmm. Yeah. No, no, I don't have that. The only thing I always have handy is... Alright, okay. Let's get this going. You sent out a newsletter and I found this to be very... it was interesting. The timing of events that took place was very interesting. Your newsletter

08:34 Which I will point out to people you spend a considerable amount of time constructing. It's not just something that you say, oh, I'm just gonna throw this together. I mean there's... I have done that. Yeah, but I'm going to guess even, you know, outside of writing the actual newsletter, just the whole process has got to take you at least an hour and a half. That's probably right. It may be longer. Yeah, sometimes a couple hours only for it to be popped into the spam folder, right? Or it takes about It depends. It takes around maybe a half hour to an hour to write it and then it has to be edited by... And you have to send it to me, you have to wait for me to say I like it. I send it to Shana and then I'm gonna send it, Citizen X wants to see it. Right, right. So I get a couple of people looking at it for copy errors because I'm sloppy sometimes. Then I have to format it and then I have to put it in MailChimp, then I gotta go through a rigmarole, then I gotta find some art that's reasonably amusing and then I ship it. Right. Probably on two hours maybe.

09:36 And it's usually done the day before so you can do it up close. Yeah, there's two ways of doing that one I can sometimes do the The Australian version live probably. Everything comes out the same time. So with Time Warp you have to do it in two days in advance. You ship it and everybody gets it at the same time all around the world. When it's 11 o'clock in New York they get it. When it's 11 o'clock in San Francisco they get it. Now I don't do that that often because it loses a little of the immediacy. I like to write Sorry, I like to write it right away just before the you know just as late the last minute So here's what happened kind of move you through the process. Here's what happened this in this newsletter You said oh my everyone's talking about Israel Gaza, then you had a nice map Why is no one talking about Ebola and I? I'm telling you

10:28 Five hours after this newsletter drops in my box. I see nothing but Ebola news everywhere Everywhere In fact, here's the here is the meme of the day. It's annoying to me. I know I understand That's why I'm telling you that it was the timing was interesting just ahead new fears that Ebola may be spreading as one US official calls the deadly virus and I'm quoting now It's only a plane ride away. Yeah It's only a plane ride away Since it was your topic I was wondering if you had anything you wanted to say about this before we Delve into what is really going on with it? Well a couple of things one. I'm going to discuss the possibility that Ebola was one of the Viruses developed at Fort Detrick. Oh, and which is one of the theories that goes out there now. I'm not going to

11:25 subscribe to any of these theories, which claims that for Dietrich, Maryland under a... And you can look at something, there's a couple things you can look up. The Strickland Memorandum is one of them. And this guy named Strickland, and there's a bunch of people writing about this. Some guy's got a new book out on Ebola and AIDS, which are the two that supposedly were developed by the government in the 70s. And the crazy thing about Ebola is that we have these different strains and the thing never appeared before 1976. That's when the Ebola first showed up. And there's no natural immunity to it, which has got some people perturbed and that makes them think that something's amiss. This is an artificial agent and it's slightly related to Marburg.

12:12 Or not slightly related, it's familial related. It's a similar hemorrhagic, it means you bleed to death. Good word! Hemorrhagic. And your eyeballs bleed and it's a mess. It's not the kind of thing... Good word, bad condition. So the Russians have been trying to weaponize Marburg for years. And in fact most of the deaths from Marburg have been in Russian labs. And nobody ever talks about that. Hold on a second. You just kicked off your discussion of Ebola with pretty much a second half of the show crackpot conspiracy theory. Well, I'm not going to subscribe to it. So that's so it's not completely correct. But what would make you want to subscribe to what would you need the facts?

13:02 I mean a real memo. Now with the memos that are out there and the Strickland guy and this other character, they've dug up a lot of stuff. And what they've dug up is World Health Organization memorandums and essentially requests for proposals to actually develop an AIDS-like virus. Now, anyone who wants to read all the AIDS conspiracy stuff, they can read some of this material. They can call me, I got the books right here. And he's got the books. And it's all out there. But I'd like to take this to a different... I'd like to look at this from a different perspective, and I'm gonna take it right back to the fears about overpopulation.

13:42 And my conspiracy side of it would be that the fears of overpopulation, which began in the 50s and then hit a peak in the 60s with the book... This was the explosion we were going to go exponentially grow out of control. Right. And if you look at the time, the thing called Total fertility rate around the world during the actually been to even in 2013 if you looked at any map of the total fertility rate Which is tends to be around two which is replacement, you know Every couple have two kids and they replace themselves and then there's other people that don't prove I always grew up hearing my parents talk about 2.3 kids and that was what they were supposed to and of course I'm from the six and you know, I was born in 64 and

14:26 Right, but everyone's very you know, they want but the Africans apparently were not playing the ball game And so it's believed by the most the heavy-duty conspiracy guys that there was an effort and you can imagine it happening During a period of panic with the population bomb book, right? If you read segments from it, and if you listen to Erlich in 1972, for example He discussed the idea of how important it would be to put sterilization agents in the drinking water Right, and this was at the same time we had the eugenicist movement or was that earlier? The eugenicist movement came in earlier, but it was all part of the same... And that was Bill Gates' dad and Margaret Sanger who founded later Planned Parenthood. That's the genesis of birth control actually.

15:12 Yeah, in fact Sanger, in Sanger in 39, and you have to remember Ehrlich was born in 34. And so he, by Sanger's ideas in 39 were very popular. Let me read from a clip, a little segment from a book on this stuff. Margaret Sanger organized her Negro project. Yes, them damn Negroes she said. A program designed, and by the way this is the founder of Planned Parenthood. Yes. A program designed to eliminate members of what she believed to be an inferior race. Margaret Sanger justified her proposal because she believed that the masses of Negroes, particularly in the South, still breed carelessly and disastrously with the result that the increase among Negroes, even more than among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent. Which of course was a kind of a funny theme, not about Negroes, but about least intelligent people breeding in the movie Idiocracy.

16:14 resulting in a world of morons. Anyway, so this kind of thing was in the air, and you can imagine, I think you can imagine, because genetic engineering isn't the kind of genetic engineering we do today, but there was molecular biology that was taking place, and there was a lot of experimental stuff being developed. And you can imagine a moment in time from about 1955, all stirred up by this mania from 1955 to about 2000, no I'm sorry, about 1980, they say 1980, 55 to 80, where there was a hysteria and some do-gooders, you can imagine saying, can we do any gene, genetic specific types of viruses that we can ship down to Africa and kill the blacks?

17:08 Yeah, because they procreate way too fast and they're not smart. Their total thing was 8, their total fertility rate was 8.78 as opposed to 2, which is what you want. And then if you read all the conspiracy books you read about, well, they slipped a bunch of stuff into the smallpox immunization packages and all the rest of that. And that's all, you know, it's not yet to be proved or not. And of course AIDS at the time was perfectly constructed the way the conspiracy goes. So the number one form of birth control at the time in Africa was just inserting it into a different spot that did not... Anal sex. Yes, anal sex, exactly. Which is the quickest way to spread the disease

17:54 the human immune deficiency virus. Right, and then the homosexuals ended up being a secondary group that got infected. That was just a benefit. That was a side benefit. I don't know who thought it was a benefit. I can just imagine someone saying, cool, that worked out too. Yeah, well it's got nothing to do with controlling the population. Of course not. The homosexuals don't procreate. So that was just an unfortunate situation for a subgroup. Whatever the case is, uh... this all st it dot you can imagine this happening and then courses gets out of control and you don't know whether still working on any of the stuff in those labs and close down the labs are run by little i think is believe is a litany industries by own edX they got the contract it was at fort detrick maryland i first read about this in the eighties about that was the that aids in particular not ebola but aids was developed to uh... in fort detrick in that i read it in the new york times

18:53 And then that is now missing in action, all those details. So anyway, back to the point, which is that if this was going on with the population guy coming up with, you know, creating this kind of mania, what is going on with the exact same people and the mania around global climate change? That's kind of the point. So is there any... because I was at a conference in Korea and some guy, supposedly from NASA, even though I was sitting next to one of the directors at NASA and he says he doesn't know who this guy was, but he claimed to be from NASA and he had this idea of sending soot

19:35 into the upper atmosphere to to create a situation that would calm the global warming problem because they were every day with all your engineering yes, and that is you don't know if that's not going on because nobody knew anything about these the creation of these viruses oh I Haven't played in so long. Yeah anyway, so what we have is a an interesting situation developing because during the period of of of the population bomb, and the Club of Rome came out and essentially said that we're all going to die by the year 2000. And Ehrlich himself said that the population would be down to a billion by 1980 because of the situation, completely out of control. I ran into a thing called the World Catalog that had an outline of the book.

20:25 And I realized that this outline of the book is a gem of an...it's not really an outline, it seems to me. It's more of a formula for writing this sort of this hysterical, hand-wringing kind of... Global control. Yeah, yeah. Here it goes. And this is it. And if you think about this as a basic skeleton, the problem is Which is number one, the problem. In this case, it would be we have a situation with too many people. Number two, the ends of the road. And generally speaking, the model here is it's already too late. Because he had that in his book too, and we have it in all the climate change guys. Was there anything like consensus? Anything like that? It's already too late. Well, then there's number three, what is being done?

21:15 There isn't the 97% thing. That's a new invention. What is being done? And the answer is always not enough or nothing. Nothing's being done. So you've got a problem, you have a reaction. It's already too late. Nothing's being done. Number four is what needs to be done. And then it is we got to stop something. We got to stop reproducing in the old case, or we have to stop CO2 emissions, which is impossible. What in the number five is what can you do which in other words get involved? You know we're getting involved right start be like joy Behar just and Bill Maher Scientists yes, get involved yes, and then And I think the genius of the whole thing is what if I'm wrong I

22:05 Right. Which is always the following. Why it's better to be safe than sorry. So what if I'm wrong? This is and just to slip this in kind of a side note, the White House just came out with their report, the cost of delaying action to stem climate change. And there was only one piece I wanted to read from that, if you just bear with me, because I yeah, I marked it up in the in the show notes. Here it is. It's a PDF. It's like how many pages? Oh yes, it's 33 pages. I just want to point that out. No. Yeah, it is. Yeah, of course it is. Of course it is. And here it is. Climate policy as climate insurance. This is the main crux of the what if I'm wrong. Individuals and businesses routinely purchase insurance to guard against various forms of risk such as fire, theft, or other loss. This logic of self-protection also applies to climate change.

23:00 Much is known about the basic science of climate change. There is a scientific consensus that, because of anthropogenic emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, global temperatures are increasing, sea levels are rising, and the world's oceans are becoming more acidic. These and other climate changes are expected to be harmful, on balance, to the world's natural and economic systems. Nevertheless, uncertainty remains about the magnitude and timing of these and other aspects of climate change, even if we assume that future climate policies are known in advance. So essentially, they're saying, why would you not take out the insurance? Here it is.

23:42 Research on the economic and policy implications of such threats is relatively recent. A conclusion that clearly emerges from this young but active literature is that the threat of a climate catastrophe, nice alliteration by the way, climate catastrophe, potentially triggered by crossing an unknown tipping point, great report, implies erring on the side of prudence today. This is great. Accordingly, in a phrase used by Weizmann, Weizmann-Pindick, and others, climate policy can be thought of as quote, climate insurance. The logic here is that of risk management in which one acts now to reduce the chances of worst case outcomes in the future. So it's exactly the same thing.

24:30 This report came out yesterday. The problem, the end of the road, what's being done, what needs to be done, what can you do, and what if I'm wrong? And at the same time, you create a bonanza of money for an entire group of insiders. Well, that's probably happened during that era too, because there's an awful lot of material out there on population control. But let's go back to the possibility that this resulted in a couple of these inventions, AIDS and Ebola. And I was always thinking, well, you know, is there anything that would maybe be like a smoking gun that would indicate that these two things were possibly invented?

25:07 And by the same group, the Lytton Industries Group, for Dietrich. So I ran into, just by coincidence, I ran into this guy. I ran into this guy. And the guy said, hey, you want some information? You know how when you're, I don't know if you've been in a Lexus, I don't know if you ever noticed this phenomenon. If you've ever been in a Lexus, And you never get in a Toyota and you finally get in a Toyota, you'll notice that there's a family similarity. They got the same kind of door handles, they got the same kind of things, how you get out, how you lock the doors. You can see the family resemblance. It's like Fords, where the Ford has the same ugly. There's a Ford thing. Yeah, it's ugly. And there's also a General Motors. They all have a certain thing. So what do you think? There's this kind of, let me read this.

26:02 You can look this up on the Wikipedia. NPC1 is identified as the gene that when mutated resulted in Neiman-Pick disease type C. Anyway, there's this very interesting gene that we have called NPC1, and when it is kind of mutated in some funny way, you won't get Ebola, because Ebola uses NPC1 to get into the system. It's important that it's there. And let me read this. And how does this...well, okay, I'll listen. Well, how does it mutate? How do you get this? Neiman pickin appears to be essential for Ebola infection. Now what other single disease out of the millions of diseases in the world also require NPC1 to work? I'm going to take a crazy guess

26:55 And say HIV? Exactly. Nothing else. Not that, not just, not cholera, not german measles, nothing. Call coincidence. But this is ridiculous. I mean this one, cholesterol pathways play an important role at multiple stages during HIV-1 infection cycle. HIV-1 fusion entry assembly and budding occur at the cholesterol-enriched microdomains called in lipid rafts. the HIV accessory pretext and it goes on and says in NPC one are needed for efficient HIV one production, you know, I Have a screwball. Let me tell you something really crazy I got an email from one of the techs at the at the the big AIDS conference you and I can't talk I can't really talk about him and he was involved in the production and

27:49 And, you know, when they heard that the MH17 had gone down and he was hearing there at the AIDS conference about how sad this was in some way. It's a little fuzzy on it, but it related directly to Ebola and these guys might have had something or... And I never thought of making that connection. Well, I didn't think about it until this guy did the book on Ebola and AIDS. And then I started, you know, he's a little nutty, he's a little wacky, but I started looking in some of his assertions and he's like, he's a little hysterical. But the other thing people should look at is a thing called NSSM-200, which is also called the Kissinger Report. And it's the National Security Study Memorandum 200, and it's available

28:39 for reading and they make all kinds of... it's not as overt as some of these hysterics make it sound, but it's worth reading. It's something you'd enjoy reading. There's some very good gotchas in there. And this was done in the 70s again and it was done in 1974 I guess, up to December 10th, and it was originally top secret and it talked about how we, you know, how can we in a world of population overgrowth maintain our ability to get minerals and wealth from these third world losers. And it's really interesting. Now you have to stop.

29:20 because now I have to give you my information. I've got information man! New shit has come to light! You just said something very important. How do we get the minerals from these third world losers? And if you look at the map of where this is taking place, of course we're all being focused now in the United States at least of Gitmo Nation. I see at the corner of my eye on the news or that channel that says it's news, I see all these spots on the map and here's where they're scanning for Ebola people coming through. We'll scan you at the airport. Heat's just like SARS, you know, we're gonna make sure and see if you have any heat. And maybe SARS was weaponized to kill Chinese. I don't know, but...

30:00 I didn't think much of this in that regard. Now you just triggered me big time because of course we're in all of these African nations. We are kicking the Chinese out. I wonder if they have, if they can mutate this gene. Probably not. Probably. I have a, we'll find out in research, Chinese are very susceptible to Ebola, but I was watching my favorite show. You know what that is, obviously. the band camp show, Marie Harf. Oh yeah, Marie Harf. You got me on this. And the way this works in these, in the state department press briefings, um, you know, she'll answer questions, but more often than not, she will answer the question by reading from the policy in the big book. They have a big book and it's tabbed. Giant book. And it's like, Oh, what is our position on, uh, on, uh, Liberia? Open note. What's the position on Libya? Open note. What's our position on Israel? And of course she's not very,

30:54 skills, and she still goes off and that's when she runs into trouble, but what you're about to hear, she was reading from the book. And that's very important. And if we watch the video, you'll see she opens the book, she's reading this. And sometimes it sounds like it's coming off the cuff because she's a shitty reader. Listen to this and see if you hear what I heard. Due to privacy considerations, can't provide more information about who those two are. We have... So the US missions in the affected areas have distributed messages to US citizens regarding the Ebola attack, and those missions are closely monitoring the situation. Did you hear it? No. Okay. I was just in that last bit. I'll roll it back. Listen carefully. Regarding the Ebola attack. You're not hearing? You don't hear what she's... Regarding the Ebola attack. Attack.

32:00 Well, if you're going to take it that far, you might as well rethink the use of the word missions. Because she didn't say, you know, she didn't say what those two people were. Those two people were missionaries and that would go right into your brain as well. You have the missionaries and then you say missions. Well, usually that's referring to a CIA operation. Well, now you, you trump me on that. Later in this briefing, she talks about the outbreak, but she's reading and the words on the paper say Ebola attack. Come on. Come on. Yeah. We have the U.S. missions in the affected areas. Wow. You're right. The U.S. missions in the affected area missions. Then think about it. These people who are roaming around from country to country, essentially on a mission, perhaps to spread this from one African nation to the next.

32:53 In the attack. The U.S. missions in the affected areas have distributed messages to U.S. citizens regarding the Ebola attack and those missions are closely monitoring the situation, continue to keep American citizens informed of what's happening. Now here's what's interesting to me is that There's three forms of Ebola currently. The original one came out in 76 by the Ebola River, I guess. That's Ebola classic. And that's Ebola classic. It's called Ebola Sudan. And then there was Ebola Zaire. And that came out also coincidentally both in 76 those two strains showed up at the same time. Never seen before in two parts of Africa, two different strains at the same time.

33:40 I thought that was rather peculiar. And then the newest one, which is the Côte d'Ivoire, the west coast, Ivory Coast, is the one that we're now seeing. And there's a very peculiar thing about this. It was supposedly The origins of this particular Ebola are supposedly, they always blame the monkeys for everything. Yeah, some guy had sex with a monkey and then brought AIDS back to America. The last known strain of Ebola, the Ivory Coast Ebola, was discovered in 1994 when a female ethnologist performing a necropsy,

34:21 On a dead chimpanzee from the Thai forest in the Ivory Coast accidentally infected herself during them during the event now She didn't die apparently because there's no fatalities from listed from 94 at least on this list But what did this? You know this whole thing is really a number 33 would a number 33 in this story help you at all would that make you with that? Do you have one? Dr. Kent Brantley went to Liberia to become a medical missionary for Samaritan's Purse. He was practicing family medicine when Ebola patients began showing up at his hospital. As the epidemic began to unfold... This is the guy in Texas, by the way.

35:04 He was asked by the hospital, Elwha Hospital, where he is serving in Monrovia, Liberia, to serve as the medical director of the isolation unit for Ebola. Dr. David McCray helped train Dr. Brantley, who graduated from residency at John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth last summer. Despite extreme precautions, a full body suit, and strict decontamination protocols, the 33-year-old physician fell ill last week with what was at first thought to be malaria. I love it! Well, it's interesting the number of people who have dropped dead that are trying to help. Yeah, with a full-blown body suit and everything. Well, he's not dead. He's in hospital now. In hospital? In hospital. That's the British way of saying it. He's in hospital. Let's play a couple of these clips because it's kind of interesting. Your take on this is blowing me away. Blowing you away! Well, not... okay. It's not really. No, it's intriguing. That you are bringing this up means a lot.

36:05 I'm just talking, what I'm doing is I'm doing a meta-analysis of the arguments that are out there. And I'm liking some of these coincidences like that crazy lipid thing. What is the etymology of Ebola, of the word itself? Is there anything? The river. It was one of the discoveries, early discoveries of Ebola was near the Ebola River. Ah, okay. So they named it Ebola. And Marburg, which is in the same family, which is the ones the Russians are working with, we're working with Ebola apparently, if you're going to go that way. The Marburg thing broke out in three places in Europe.

36:54 including the town of Marburg, where it was named, all at once, same thing, same crazy thing going on. So there's something fishy about it. You remember when we kind of just started the show and I read the Lisbon Treaty, which was the do-over of the European Constitution, which France and the Netherlands voted against, and this was supposed to be the next step in the evolution of the European Union, the Lisbon Treaty. Right. And then Ireland voted against it. They said, do-over, and then they voted for it. And one of the main things in this, in this, essentially is the constitution for...wow. I have to stop saying the word essentially. Oh, okay. I'll look for it. Adam, you and John routinely help each other and call each other out with language and presentation habits you wish to break. Lately, you have begun crutching your dialogue with the word essentially. This usage of the word... It's like the same as basically, and they're trying not to say basically. And this is from our producers. This usage of the word is weak.

37:50 It's used to signal the listener to not challenge but just accept the point or comparison being made. Thank you. Good point. We'll keep an eye out. Okay. Keep an eye out. In this Lisbon Treaty, there's a number of reasons when you can be locked up and jailed without due process. And one of them is if you have a communicable disease. And we talked about this as alcoholism can be a disease, swine flu can be a disease, but this would be a great one. You know, any kind of communicable virus, which I guess by definition is communicable, could get you locked up. It could usher in a totalitarian state. Well, I think it would stink up the place if they did it with something like Marburg, but okay. Anyway, let me play a couple of things that I think are kind of interesting as side notes.

38:48 The first thing that I noticed was that in the international press before I wrote the newsletter there was a lot more fear-mongering going on. For example, this front page of the news mail, I believe is Australian, might be New Zealand. Australia and New Zealand prepare for Ebola outbreak. And they show some guy in one of those suits. I think we need another clip. Ebola! And then from one of the British papers, this is the Mirror, which is one step below the male, is the deadly Ebola virus on the way to the UK. And then they have a same thing, a picture of a guy wearing this bunny suit on the... It's a different guy, different bunny suit, but it seems to be a stock photo of some sort.

39:34 Because they're both black, and one's in Australia, I don't know, it makes no sense to me. But we haven't done that kind of thing until recently because most of the reports are like this one, this is AJ, this is the Al Jazeera network, making it clear that there's conditions for Ebola in the United States are different. than they are in Africa, which actually lends credence to the idea that it's a targeted virus. But we'll see. are simply too dangerous. Jonathan Betz is here with that story. Jonathan. Well, John, as you know, the virus is highly contagious. There is no cure. Ebola is not only infecting locals but also doctors, aid workers, and at least three Americans overseas. Almost all those who've died were in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Now humanitarian groups are pulling their people out.

40:31 As the Ebola virus spreads, the Peace Corps says it's now pulling out hundreds of volunteers from West Africa. It's quarantined two workers after they came in contact with the man who later died from the virus. The agency says these volunteers are not symptomatic and are currently isolated and under observation. That could last up to three weeks. Africa is facing its worst Ebola outbreak ever. More than 670 people killed since March. There are fears the disease could spread, but U.S. officials say America is not at risk. People should realize that the risk of having an outbreak of Ebola in the United States is exceedingly unlikely and rare, in part because of the infrastructure that we have for good infection control. Still, the Centers for Disease Control has issued an alert to all doctors urging them to watch for anyone who traveled to the region and show signs of fever.

41:27 Yeah, that's the director of the NIH has done every single news channel saying exactly that. Our infrastructure is different. It's very unlikely to spread if it were. I find the coincidence peculiar. Now the French don't take that tech, they just go with the straight up report. And I think it's a, there's a good, it's a little long clip, but it's worth listening to. This is the Ebola from France, Venkat. Now, Pan African airline Askeye has suspended flights to and from the capitals of Liberia and Sierra Leone due to the worsening Ebola health crisis. It's the second African airline to do so. Almost 650 people in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea have died, including a doctor who was leading the fight against the outbreak. Charlotte Hawkins has more.

42:15 One of the latest victims of Ebola. A few kilometers from Kailahun, one of the infected districts in Sierra Leone, World Health Organization workers create a makeshift cemetery. This is the first time I've dealt with Ebola on such a large scale. Hundreds of people have died. There are probably more cases we aren't even aware of. We can't control this epidemic. We don't have the resources. Health workers cover themselves in protective gear, working day and night to combat the epidemic. Transmitted by contact with bodily fluids, including sweat, Ebola kills up to 90% of those it infects. News came on Tuesday that Sierra Leone's top doctor leading the fight against Ebola

43:03 has himself died from the virus. Hailed as a national hero, Sheikh Omar Khan was credited with treating more than 100 patients. Three West African countries are dealing with outbreaks and to date the virus has claimed more than 670 lives. Two major African airlines have now stopped flying to Sierra Leone and Liberia to prevent further spreading of the disease. But not before one of the airline's passengers recently carried Ebola to Lagos, Nigeria. The hospital where he died last week has been closed and quarantined. It's unknown how many people the virus may have been passed on to. Lagos is Africa's most populous city, sparking fears cases of Ebola there

43:49 could be easily spread. And it's going to be very peaceful in Africa. Lots of parking spots. This all stems back to the hysterical fear of the population situation in the 50s and 60s, specifically from Paul Ehrlich.

44:29 And this is a cookie cutter representation of what we're going through now with the global climate change thing, which is the thing that concerns me the most. Because some, if this, we're just gonna take it on face, the possibility exists that this all stemmed from that, if this was a creation, which it might be. It's not beyond the realm of possibility. You mean from the geoengineering? No, I'm just saying, going back to the Ebola and the AIDS being an engineered thing that came out of positive thinking by the community of elite.

45:09 Is something like that going on now that is going to screw us over because of some assholes who are all in on climate change, which is just a computer model? And by the way, this was the same kind of thing. It was modeled. It was, well, here's what's gonna happen if things continue. You run a computer program, gloom and doom scenario, write a book. And by the way, the guy was a butterfly expert. That's the joke of it. In fact, he said later in years, he said, well, she'd take it more science. That's great. There's a... let's just stay on... okay good, let's move right into Agenda 21 stuff is what I call it or climate change, whatever you want to... heading you want to put it under. Yale came out with a big study about communicating... actually the title of the study, how to communicate the scientific consensus on climate change. Plain facts, pie charts or metaphors.

46:04 And so this whole study is to find out which way people believe the climate change message quicker, with which methodology. And what do you think it would be? And again, I'll give you the three approaches. Descriptive text, pie chart, and metaphors. And I'll give you the examples here. Let me give you the examples. Here it is. Start a clock. In the first experimental condition, participants were shown a simple descriptive text message stating that 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening. In the second condition, participants were shown a pie chart representing the consensus visually.

46:54 Also tested a variety of different metaphors to describe the consensus. An example, if 97% of doctors concluded that your child is sick, would you believe them? Or the 3% that say something different? We have witnessed all three of these of course. So which do you think is the most effective? I didn't realize they were actually so paranoid that they can't get their message across with all this bullshit that they have to come up with this. So I would suspect based on just the storytelling metaphors and all the things that go on around how we communicate as humans that it would be the metaphor. Huh, interesting. You give people too much credit.

47:39 So it was just a simple sentence pictures now pictures of course people stupid all three approaches Improves pretty bad here we go all three approaches improve public understanding of the degree of scientific consensus overall Well, the first one requires reading the last one requires thinking thinking And the second one is just look at a picture. Okay, it gets better. It gets better overall I feel bad now. No you won't you won't Overall, the descriptive text and pie chart were the most effective, increasing consensus estimates by nearly 20% with just one exposure of the pie chart. The pie chart performed particularly well for Republicans, who of course are the stupidest of all.

48:30 These results suggest that it's possible to improve public understanding of the scientific consensus on climate change. Notice they don't say the fact. In a way that does not trigger political polarization. So we have to have lots of pretty pictures and pie charts because we're too stupid. to understand. So wait, so you're basically you're taking the 97, 97% of all scientists agree. Yeah. And instead of just saying 97% of all scientists agree, you make a pie chart with a little sliver showing 97% and then the word agree. Yeah. And then a little sliver that says losers.

49:07 And which one do you want to be? Yeah, which one are you? I personally think that I like to be in the majority people. That's the reason for the 97%. I think they overdid it with the 97%, but I bet that was debated. I think we see, of course we need. And also, you know, I don't mind saying 97%, but please give me the total number. Give me the exact number of climate scientists. And then I'll calculate 97%. Has to be a lot because we know 30,000 of the client scientists signed that petition saying this is bull crap. So there must be a million in total or something, right? A million in total? 30,000 would represent the 3%. So it has to be 970 million. 970,000. 970,000.

49:51 I don't think there's that many climate scientists. This number is not possible. I don't mind the 97% number, but if you're going to be so exact and say 97%, you need to show me the number. Just show me the number and give me the names and then we can move on from there. Wait a minute. I've never actually found that data, strangely enough. That would bring it up to 9.7 million, wouldn't it? No, I think that 900,000 is right. I personally like metaphors because we don't do video or anything on the show so pie charts don't work well for us. I like metaphors like what NBC does. The fire season not just expensive but historic. Nationwide so far this year more than 32,000 wildfires have burned. 1.6 million acres charred, most of them in the West.

50:40 Feeding the fires, drought crippling 60% of the West, intensifying across the region, creating what's called mega fires, burning faster, hotter and more explosive than ever before. Cruz called this the front lines of climate change a longer more destructive fire season notice There's no guy no firefighters saying we're on the front line of climate change however when we had clips on this show from the Congress of Experts on wildfires saying that this is bullshit particularly in Australia where that where this is also being a

51:18 brought out in the same way where it has to do with population migration, with a lack of burning... Or blame it on the aborigines. Yeah, well, of course. I just thought the front lines of climate change. We're on the front lines of climate change too. Yeah, I guess. But the fun little thing I picked up is that apparently NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellite data was stolen from a contractor's personal computer And they're kind of freaking out about it because... Well, they got more of these memos, another weathergate thing. Climategate. Yeah, exactly, because this is the data that they've been showing us of temperature data that measured by satellites, which of course is, you can't dispute that. It's science fact.

52:13 There's a lot of freak out about this theft, so we'll see if that surfaces. And at the same time, you know, Greenpeace, for some reason I think Greenpeace has a lot of its base in the Netherlands. I know a lot of their ships are registered there, and I know they start missions there. The guys who were arrested by the Russians, I think a majority of them were Dutch. They certainly came back to the Dutch port. And there's a strife internally at Greenpeace. We already found out that one of the executive directors flies to work. Which is kind of cool. But they also apparently they lost something like 35 million, I'm trying to find the number here.

53:01 a huge amount of money on investments. You see, they get all this money that people send them. Oh, and then they invest it in the stock market. Yeah, good luck. And so there's Dutch Greenpeace members who are calling for resignations and they want to...there's documents that are out there. A lot of this is in the show notes. How the financial affairs have been in disarray for many years. Yeah, Amsterdam headquarters, there you go. A staffer had lost three million on the foreign exchange, pounds that is, on the foreign exchange market by betting mistakenly on a weak euro. Wow! That's a huge blunder. Three million pounds? Yeah.

53:49 The euro is like, how can you screw it up on the euro? It's ridiculously strong and it's like, I can see how you make the mistake because it makes no sense that it's what, buck 35, buck 36, something like that. Whatever it is, I can look it up. But it's ridiculously strong. There's no rationale for it except unless we figure that, somebody came up with an interesting thesis. I didn't make any clips of this, but he said that Why isn't the Fed, this is something I'll talk about on DHM plug, why isn't the Fed doing something about raising the interest rates when there's apparent evidence of inflation?

54:26 And the answer is, all the evidence of inflation is all, when taken in total, is bogus. We're actually trying to fight off a genuine depression. We've got to keep this interest rate down to nothing, no matter what anybody wants to pretend is going on. Well, now we're back to our discussion about globalists and these people not actually caring about the United States, but about their own globalist agenda. And if you look at, you know, someone put together, I'm not quite sure who did this, but if you go to Bricksmap, B-R-I-C-S-M-A-P, Bricksmap, it's kind of funny he drew this by hand, I liked it a lot, bricksmap.noagendanotes.com. Bricksmap.noagendanotes.com. And there's two charts that he kind of drew by hand, I really like it. Are you there?

55:21 I'm hitting it. Here it comes. Bricks vs. Bis-MF by Adam Curry. You wrote a scribble on this? No, I didn't do the scribble. That page is just because I posted the page. So what he has here is red is the Bank of International Settlements, the IMF, and the gang, as our producer says. Green is the bricks. And if you see, So South America bricks, we have the Asian continent bricks, and then you see where the red is, which is the IMF system and our Bank of International Settlements. And if you go down you'll see where the influencers are trying to move and who's trying to influence who in which monetary system.

56:01 You kind of see that the Fed is just a very small cog in the wheel and this seems much more... I like this. It's like, okay, this puts it in perspective for me. Who's fighting who? And I'm not saying the green guys are as strong as the red guys in terms of monetary might, but those are the divisions. I like that. I like it a lot. Now, Argentina, of course, defaulted last night. Yeah, it's about time. And China's coming in, Russia's coming in, everyone's gonna... I'm sure that these guys are gonna get paid off by either the Chinese or Russians. And the globalists who are on the receiving end, they won't care. They'll just give me some money. I thought it was an interesting way of looking at the world. It's a definitely different look. It looks pretty small, our world, doesn't it, when you see it like this? Just a bunch of a-holes in red and green.

56:48 I do have a clip about China and this was on, you know, of course everything you get on, especially the RT news coming out of Moscow is a little different than the ones you get on. Well, because they're doing business with the Chinas and they love them. So here they are needling, let's see where it is, needling the USA. The event is to target China's ever-growing economic influence there. Bayomi is a Kiwi from the Pan-African Newswire. He believes China's well ahead in the battle for hearts and minds. Many African opinion makers and analysts have said that the relationship between China and Africa, as opposed to the relationship between Africa and the United States, has many advantages for the African people.

57:36 The Chinese interventions have resulted in infrastructural developments, whereas there's an extensive history. of exploitative relations between the United States and other Western European countries vis-a-vis the African continent. I believe that the Obama administration is late in taking this initiative, but I think it's very important for him to somehow enhance the image of the United States on the African continent. Yeah. After the Ebola has wiped some people out, then we can enhance the image. Yeah, that would help. I have an email.

58:12 from about China, from Morgan who lives there. He is in the architectural business. The Chinese corporate culture is totally money hungry. It's all about making more money. It has been proven. Yeah, this is a known fact. And he's on the boots on the ground. Two years he's been there. It has been proven time and time again they are totally fine with killing each other and anyone else. After living in China for two years now, I have huge trust issues with the Chinese race in general. Call me a racist if you want, but they are all dishonest, self-interested dickheads. Look into the planned world's tallest building, so this is an architectural business, where the concrete supplier was using beach sand in the foundation concrete. Or take a look at the new apartment buildings that just fell over. They are careless to the point of stupidity. I am very worried about any world where they are a major power. Thank you for your courage, Morgan from China. I have gotten this feedback a number of times. I remember one of the first times I went to China,

57:36 The Chinese interventions have resulted in infrastructural developments, whereas there's an extensive history. of exploitative relations between the United States and other Western European countries vis-a-vis the African continent. I believe that the Obama administration is late in taking this initiative, but I think it's very important for him to somehow enhance the image of the United States on the African continent. Yeah. After the Ebola has wiped some people out, then we can enhance the image. Yeah, that would help. I have an email.

58:12 from about China, from Morgan who lives there. He is in the architectural business. The Chinese corporate culture is totally money hungry. It's all about making more money. It has been proven. Yeah, this is a known fact. And he's on the boots on the ground. Two years he's been there. It has been proven time and time again they are totally fine with killing each other and anyone else. After living in China for two years now, I have huge trust issues with the Chinese race in general. Call me a racist if you want, but they are all dishonest, self-interested dickheads. Look into the planned world's tallest building, so this is an architectural business, where the concrete supplier was using beach sand in the foundation concrete. Or take a look at the new apartment buildings that just fell over. They are careless to the point of stupidity. I am very worried about any world where they are a major power. Thank you for your courage, Morgan from China. I have gotten this feedback a number of times. I remember one of the first times I went to China,

59:13 And I went to Beijing and I was treated like a king. Because I went into a store and everybody was... they were all... essentially, I believe they were just trying to... Scams? Trying to sell you something? No, no, no, they were trying to practice English. There was no... I didn't see any evidence of any sort of scam. But did they call you sir or your highness? Your highness is what they... So anyway, I came back and discussed this with some Chinese. who were American Chinese, but they were, they had like either dual citizenship or they worked at a Chinese company or whatever. And they gave me grief saying that, well, you got, just because you were white, if you were Chinese, they'd have been giving you crap and you have no idea and you can't really trust them. These are Chinese telling me this. You can't, but they work for, I think it was Acer. And if you talk to the Taiwanese about the mainlanders, because the Taiwanese have been- Oh, they've had some issues.

1:00:08 They've had lots of issues and they say the same thing even though they have to do business with them and they do constant business. And then you talk to other kind of ethnologists that study this and they say if you really want to get to the nasty ass, mean Chinese, you have to go to Malaysia where you have the Malay Chinese and they're the ones who are the kick ass. And that's where I think the Foxconn guy comes from. The Foxconn guy, the guy has a factory with a million people and a steel mill. He's, I think, Malaysian-Chinese. In fact, I don't know if I told you this story before. or if I told a story. So I'm going out to dinner with another Malaysian Chinese guy from...he ran the...or the owner's publisher is like a Murdoch of South China and he ran the South China News. And we go out to dinner with a bunch of different people and he finds out I'm a wine

1:01:01 guy and he starts bragging about his wines. He says, I know what we'll do. Let's have a bottle of 1962 or 82, but 1982 Lynch Bosh. Let me guess. Let me guess. $2,500. Well, whatever the price was he had his own cellar at the restaurant. Oh, the price was never reviewed. I'm sorry, but it was an expensive wine, whatever the case. It may have been even better than the old Lynch Bage. So he brings, or the way it works though, he brings out the wine, shows everybody's going to get his wine, looks at it and says, you know, I think we should have something else and sends the wine back. And then we get a piece of crap.

1:01:39 Yes, you have told this story. Go and finish it. Yes, I remember this. This to me was the epitome of this. Total Chinese dickhead move. Like, I've got this, but you know what? Here's some South African So I always thought that was very revealing. It's rude. Well, yeah, but it's not seen that way. First he bragged about the wine, showed the wine that he had it, and then was the end of it. Oh man. But anyway, the note from that guy is not unusual. Eric got screwed by a Chinese vendor. It's a bunch of money. It is no agendization operation.

1:02:16 Somebody never shipped anything. Ah, fuck you. And then you get there's no no way of going through any process to To redress anything. It's terrible. Well a number of our producers work for Silicon Valley companies some very well-known fruit companies and Go to China you know like mmm sometimes once a week, whenever it's necessary, essentially, because what they do, and there's all kinds of issues with machines and phones and stuff, and what happens is they'll just replace a chip with a different chip. Then they won't tell anybody, and then all of a sudden things start breaking, and then they have to send guys over who have to troubleshoot and work backwards until they find out that, oh, well, wait a minute, you put a cheaper piece in here and you didn't tell us.

1:03:06 And they're doing that to big companies who I would presume are good clients. Well, the key to success is... So it's just cultural. I mean, we're generalizing, obviously. No, I know. And it's not necessarily a bad thing from their perspective. But the key to success with working with the Chinese is to have your people on the feet on the ground in China as running the inspection operation. You inspect everything they do. Because there's great products that come out of China if it's well inspected. But if you have that situation like the meat, and the chicken that was in the uh... it reported in that other story we did the last show where this is falling on the ground is right now it's shit they throw it in there anyway they don't give a crap if you don't want to say and we were feeding that to the chinese this is a probably a a good thing yahoo is that it is a chance to use they screwed themselves there's all kinds of the problems and i would think that the food

1:03:57 I have one clip that relates to China, but it's really about Russia. And I just want to play this and then we've got to get to our opening. Before you do that, I got to play one clip from China. Oh, please. Yes, of course. China. What do you got? I have got, this is the one, there was a report that came, I didn't get this clip, which is apparently in China, there's a bunch of crappy chicken that's being processed. And now we have The Willis report, which is this blonde on Fox, who's for some reason, I don't know if it's her voice or something, she's just kind of, it's hard to... Wait a minute. Is it time for...

1:04:40 The War on Chicken. And I believe it's maybe not the war on chicken anymore, maybe the war on Chinese chicken. Never go shopping when you're hungry and also think about replacements. When you want that steak, maybe it's either a smaller cut of steak, fill the rest of the plate with vegetables or think about another protein. Seafood for example is much less expensive. Right now we've got higher prices on chicken because of Foster Farms recall and And China is saying they're going to import chickens to us. I don't want Chinese chickens. Me neither. I'm going to eat seafood. Me neither. I'm with you on that. We have to start a national protest right here on this show about Chinese chicken. Keep it off our shores. That's what I say. Phil, thank you. Good to see you. Hey, OK, hold on. This is now making sense.

1:05:27 Maybe, well it's not like we didn't know this, but a lot of this Russia stuff is really also a proxy war with China and there was an interview that Sir Malcolm Rifkin did, he's a member of parliament in the Gitmo nation east there, the UK's, and he's talking to the BBC about Putin of course, you know that's what everyone has to talk about. Listen to his slip up in this fragment from the interview. And what is it exactly that we want? What is Putin gonna do tomorrow, next week, next month for us to call off the dogs? It couldn't be simpler. He's got to actually close his borders to not just the exporting and transfer of military equipment. Oh, hold on a second. Did you hear what he said?

1:06:15 The export transfer. No, listen carefully. Close his borders, export oil, transport. Be simpler. He's got to actually close his borders to not just the exporting oil and transfer of oil. I mean military transport. It's about the oil they're selling to China. Stop that. It could be. Oh, it's part of it. It's not the whole thing. It's gotta be some part of it. Yes, part of it. We're definitely overdoing this. I have a good thing we'll do later in the show. You know, it's like the poles have flipped. It's like north is south, south is north. You know, the good is bad. The poles are flipping. Black is white. Fear is freedom. Freedom is liberation. Contradiction is truth. Those are the facts of this world and you will all surrender to them. You pigs and humans.

1:07:10 And with that I say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Yeah, in the morning to you Adam Curry. Where's that day? Everyone cited that clip is from some anime show or something. Yeah, some all-in-all is something or other. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Everybody can't believe that we're playing it. Well Well, we're gonna probably play it again before the show's over. I think so. You love that clip. I just love the ending you pigs in human clothing I say that anyway in the morning to you Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and in the morning games and nights out there Yes in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room you pigs in human clothing NoahDinnerStream.com in the morning to our artistes

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1:11:44 Well, I sure hope so. Let me see. I just want to just check. I'll check. I believe so. It's not in blue. We were well that's because we were looking for his you know he's not what is this? Henceforth I'd like to be known anyway write this down. Yeah, I'm gonna write this down I'd like to be known as sir Dan builder of battery cars night of porn Valley Saluting us from the barrio and an sir Dan night of battery cars builder Oh, sir Dan builder of battery cars. Yeah night of porn Valley. Oh my

1:12:21 I'm gonna get this right. Builder of battery cars, Knights of Porn Valley? Yeah, Porn Valley. That's where he is. He's in Van Nuys, which is the San Fernando Valley for people who want to travel around. I'd recommend the most picturesque part of Los Angeles Basin. is the San Fernando Valley and this all where all the porn is made and when you drive around you'll see nothing but porn people wandering around. And we appreciate him putting our No Agenda signage and the Magic 33 number on the vehicle as I'm sure it will go on to be legendary and the subject of many, many documentaries.

1:12:58 And here is his sequence including some karma which he didn't ask for but I'm going to throw in there for obvious reasons. Caliphate in Iraq I think I'm gonna crack my pants. We must and we will much about that be committed. You've got karma. Hey now! And we congratulate and thank you. Aidan, Aiden, Aiden. 48166 Clark, Aiden Clark in North Lakes, Queensland. Oh he's in the chat room all the time. Snorkel. Snorkel? Snorkel. Please knight me a sir snorkel. It's not snorkel. I'd like to request a girlfriend experience and good bourbon.

1:13:59 Okay, let me just put that on the list. Girlfriend, experience, and good Bourbon. Yeah. Craigslist much? If it's not too much trouble. No, no. Also, a general karma and a de-douching. I'm about 20 shows behind due to life getting in the way, but I plan to catch up and need to give some value for value for all the value that I'm sure is awaiting me. We really do appreciate it. Here's your de-douche. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. The karma. Thank you.

1:14:37 You'll be on word later on well, so he won't hear his knighting for the for three more months apparently Philip Meason in Welsh pool UK At first I'd like to encourage you both on the outstanding content you produce twice weekly, the No Agenda Show truly is the best podcast in the universe. Long after I got bored stiff of the Twit Network, I continued to receive unparalleled content and entertainment from the No Agenda Show. Whilst not dedicated to tech news, you still managed to produce the best analysis of what is really going on with the internet. Suck on that, our friend. We all know who he is. I'm not gonna say it.

1:15:15 I have included my accounting as I believe I have reached my barony and would like to claim the nation of Wales, UK as my protectorate and to be hence known as Sir Philip Meason, Baron of Wales. We should... he should probably give us some Welsh to speak, shouldn't he? You'd think. There'd be some kind of way to say... Yeah, you'd have to spit a lot. It's not good for the microphone. Maybe one day I too will have a jingle of my own, though I have a feeling I will need to find a much better paying job before that ever happens. In the meantime, please accept this payment of $333.33 as another donation of the Value for Value system. I'll be speaking with my bank this week in hopes of getting a mortgage. Rest assured my monthly donation of $50 will be listed as essential spending. In fact, I believe it increases your credit report, your credit rating.

1:16:09 It could, you know, I think setting up a time payment plan. Yeah, to the No Agenda show. Well, whatever you do, I think time payment plans show that you're very dedicated to paying stuff on time. I would wager to say that No Agenda producers are in so many different places. It could happen that you would run into someone who is a mortgage loan officer at a bank It might see this and you might say, oh, this is, you know, this podcast, no agenda show on them. Oh, let me sign off for you. Don't you think that people, that we have producers everywhere? Yeah. I'm constantly. In fact, I have a quick clip here. Cab drivers, shoppers, gas station people. I believe that. Computer guys. Do you think that producers on television shows, I'm just going to say it, they're always looking for material.

1:17:05 But they're always looking for interesting things to point out. I have been an answer or a question I should say on Jeopardy before. I've been like, why would someone make me a question on Jeopardy? But when this clip was sent to me of two questions back-to-back, I'm thinking, in the morning, Jeopardy producers. Food 800. A couple of minutes in the microwavable sleeve makes these Nestle meat and cheese sandwiches. Probably had one. A Hot Pocket. Back to you, William. Food, 1,000. In the morning, you can have instant this from Quake. I mean, come on. Come on. Maybe Alec Trebek is actually, he's like, he said it so nicely. In the morning.

1:17:50 Yeah, yeah, it's possible. You did Hot Pockets and then came Great Way. I mean, it could be just a weird and wild coincidence, but I know we have a lot of Hollywood people. Of course we've got Hollywood people listening to us. Of course we have Hollywood people. A lot of them are sick of the propaganda. Of their job. Just sick of their job. Let me give let me give our baron their Baron of Wales some karma for his mortgage the loan officer you've got karma well deserves Thank you for your courage of supporting the best podcast in the universe Nicholas McFaul and Herndon, Virginia $203.33 will be associate executive producer for show 639. Time to top up my donations I like some travel karma and an amazing, amazing with Reverend Al of your choice. I'm a little behind on shows another one so I'm not just because we were running long.

1:18:44 So I'm not sure if this has been covered. I just saw a commercial this morning reminding parents that the HPV vaccine is mandatory in DC for 6th graders and it protects from 7 types of cancer. That's not exactly factually true, but okay. That's why they push it that way. Yeah, of course. Of course. We're very happy to give you a little bit of the rev. There's no real conflict! Something like that, perhaps? You've got karma. Okay, now we got let me do a quick search on Judy Schwartz. I recall seeing an email from her. S-C-H-W-A-R-Z. Whoops. Well, that's nice. You ever type into the box and then you look up and there's nothing there? I hate it when that happens. Judy Schwartz via PayPal. There's the PayPal donation.

1:19:44 And her email is Judy Schwartz. Okay. I got it. I got her. You got it. I don't have it. Here we go. No agenda is truly the only news I listen to. I enjoy your international as well as your local. By the way, I sent this to Eric. Okay. I enjoy your international news as well as your local Texas news. Let John know I love him. Let John know I love him. He is very dear to my heart. She said this to you? Yes. Okay. Even if he mispronounced my hometown's name, how would you pronounce this John? B-O-E-R-N-E. Uh, Bern. That's Bernie.

1:20:25 Bernie. Bernie, yeah. B-O-E-R-N-E, Bernie. It's a Texas German settlement. We've got a lot of Texas Germans here. Bernie, Bernie Texas. Bernie Texas. I'm working towards my knighthood. I live in Bernie, Texas. I'm working toward my knighthood. $450 to go. Thank you again for keeping us straight on the fact. Side note, please don't leave Texas. We're going to need a good governor soon. I'm not sure. Does she want me to be governor? Yeah, seems like I think I have more but I can improve people's lives more during the show than being governor of Texas. You can be governor and do the show. Double dip. Do I get to live in the governor's mansion? Yes, and you also don't just take care of your housing problem and also you get a pension when you're out of office. Hmm.

1:21:12 And lifetime health insurance. Well, it's worth that alone. I'm not going to be able to afford that eventually. Well, Judy, thank you very much. I'm going to give you a little bit of karma for that. And we'll see. I hope to be governor one day. You've got karma. Governor mansion? Yeah. We turn that into a party palace. We got stripper poles. We got bouncy castles. So David Cost in Arlington, Texas, another Texan coming in at $200. I was listening to Twit tonight because I was out of no agenda to listen to. And then he complains about something, which I will not read. Why not? I was groaning out loud after a 30 minute conversation about the future of emojis. Now this is interesting because I don't even know what he's talking about. Well, I have, you don't know what happened, do you? You are completely oblivious to what went down. What?

1:22:08 Yeah, I am because I didn't watch the show. Okay, but I watched the show because I always enjoy you like the show I do like the show, but I've always said I like the show and you like the show then I am a two-year thing about I'm gonna tell give people a secret the weird thing about it you watch this show hoping you're on and Yeah, to see if I'm on the show. Yeah, you watch the show and they say, damn, not on again. I'm not on the show. I want you on the show. And I'll tell you what happened very shortly because I had the same, the exact same response They had, who were they, Jerry Purnell and then an even older guy, not that I want to be ageist about it. Actually Jerry was the oldest guy but there was another guy. Agate looks for some reason. So they had those two guys on and then the film girl from Mashable.

1:22:55 Right. And that is her Twitter, at film underscore girl. Yeah. And so the show then is about emojis and about how...you know what an emoji is? No. Oh, an emoji is when you, um, if you do a smiley, which is... Oh, that's that new emoticon replacement. It's not really new, but now everyone is using it. And there was a 15 minute conversation about the depiction of the poop emoji on Android versus Apple. And it was quite interesting. And it was serious too. But then Leo starts talking about the Kardashians app and then this film girl starts talking about it. And I am, and of course now I'm just beside myself with a lot. So I'm not tweeting at anybody. I'm not doing at twit live. I'm not interested in this film, not saying anything to her.

1:23:45 Dan, I'm just laughing out loud, but oh my god, this is so stupid. And what I really felt was stupid and really Really well a very sexist although of course I get called out as being a total dick you are no I'm not no I'm not okay. That's fine. I didn't know no I'm not a total dick, but what happens is you know so I'm not trolling anybody I'm just entertaining the no agenda people and I'm not at this at doing at sign and you're in the chat room No, I'm doing this on Twitter I'm just doing this on Twitter. I'm just doing things like, oh, look at this. Oh, the Kardashians app. And then, you know, so, and of course, then all of a sudden.

1:24:27 Like, the next morning I wake up and there's all these tweets about, Curry's a dick, you know, super, super sexist, horrible, misogynistic. And then Film Girl tweets, hey, if I were a washed up former VJ who had failed business ventures and a dwindling audience, I'd probably be an asshole to strangers too. Wow! Yeah, but here's the thing that is overlooked by her, and that's all I have to say about it. I actually was incense that no one saw the obvious sexism of only talking... I think Christina Warren is her name. I think she knows a lot about technology. I believe that what she tweets and what she may write in her blog shows more of her understanding of technology than what Mashable has her write. Or the Twit Network, who can only apparently talk to a girl about technology, about the color of an OS,

1:25:25 emoji poop signs and the Kardashian app. That is sexist. It's exactly the opposite. But no one sees this. Everyone says, I'm a douchebag. It was it was it was really it was very entertaining. And the and the aftermath was just wow. OK, so anyway, well, I think you made your point. Made my point, but it's fall on deaf ears my friend come up and say that to you That's a dumb thing to do she's obviously not been a writer very long now. She's young she's young all right So you excused her, you gave her the benefit of the doubt here instead of just punching her for the rest of your life and making it a thing. No, I tweeted back and I said, you know, actually I was kind of defending you if you don't mind because I feel that it's... Apparently she does mind. Well, she should be outraged that when she goes on a tech show, she's, as a girl, she's thrown the Kardashian app in emoji poop.

1:26:22 Please. Yeah, no, I think that would be insulting. Yeah, well, she doesn't. Of course, the bigger question is, is why would this be discussed at all? Kardashian, I guess it was. Oh, yeah, you know what? I was a little tired of watching dead children on television. I'm sorry. It just, it just got to me for a moment. Like, ah, finally some entertainment. So anyway, Sir David Koss says, I decided it was time to donate to the best podcast in the universe. I'd like to give karma to Dave Welsh, who is still working at my former employer. I got him hooked on the show before I left. And lastly, I'd like to plug my 3D animation tutorial website called brograph.com. That's a good domain actually. Brograph.com. And we thank Sir David Koss, of course, for helping us out. And here is the karma. You've got karma.

1:27:11 Well, I had a little run in with, I guess, some guys who were giving me crap about my column in PC Magazine. Which column was this? Which just came out on Wednesday. I think that I said that I don't think the iWatch, iTime or whatever they're going to call this thing is going to work as a winner. It's going to probably have an initial good sales. This is the promised Apple wearable? The watch. Wearable. Yeah, it may not be a watch, a wearable. It's going to be a watch. Whatever they give is called I time which everyone seems to think did you piss on the the fanboys cereal it happens? And so then Ryan Block went after me of all people Wait a minute I get the emoji poop girl didn't you get Ryan Block? That's not well. I think I'd rather have the emoji poop girl Okay

1:28:08 Hey, join the club of washed up dwindling audience losers. Boy, she's gonna regret ever saying that. Nah, no she won't. Yeah, she will. That's a terrible thing to say to someone. Yeah, well, she's just dumb. Young and dumb. It's okay, she'll grow up. But what did Ryan Blockhead say to you? What happened? Oh, one of these grumpy old tech colonists. There it is. Ageist. Ageist. Same old stuff. He didn't use the word old, he just said grumpy, but it was implied. It was very good about avoiding the ages that couldn't come back towards and you're not grumpy. You're just direct Well, there's a yeah. Well, I should live in New York a guy

1:28:48 You have to live with this type of personality. Well anyway, so that's... Sorry, I'm sorry for you. So sorry we went off the edge there with that whole thing. Anyway, Sir David cost $200 to make a long story short. Ironbound Designs is our final associate executive producer. $200, New York, New York. Hi John and Adam, been listening to the show since August of 2010 when Adam appeared on Twit, of course. So, this is like one of those moments of random number theory. We have way too many mentions in this. No, it's not a random... On our show. No, what happened is I enhanced the viewing experience for people with a running commentary of hilarity. As you know, I am a comedian. Washed up, but I'm a comedian. Because of your Twitter thing. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. I'm gonna have to go back and read this now and see what you said. I personally... I'm just surprised you didn't do it in the chat room and get kicked out.

1:29:41 No, but it would be in there for three seconds. Yeah, you don't last. I don't even think I can connect. I think my I think all of Austin has been banned. I'm sorry. Bench. Bench. Can't take a chance. Bench. Been listening to the show since August when Adam appeared on Twitter. Of course, I had heard John plug no agenda hundreds of hundreds of times. But something about Adam just made me want to listen more. Thanks for nothing. Take that, John. I will be a college freshman in a few weeks and decide I finally needed to be de-douched. Oh, yes. Please play something Putin. Two to the head. We came, we saw, he died karma. Timothy in New York City. Okay, so he wants something Putin. Two to the head and a de-douching first. You've been de-douched. Putin!

1:30:32 High school note John high school students sending us money high school. Yes high school He's in high school. He's gonna go start going to going to attending some college and get ripped off by the system I'm very happy we had this nice lineup of executive producers and associate executive producers our donation segment will be very short today Yeah, we've got it's getting a little it's top-heavy today. I want to remind people we do have a show coming up which will be Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday

1:31:11 And that we need some continued help. So Dvorak.org and A is the place to go. And I have two quick PR mentions, one from Ramsey Kane, our friend from noagendaCD.com. Having heard the recent comments from producers regarding the early shows, I've been inspired to dust off an old project I've been meaning to launch for a couple of years now, classicnoagenda.com. I'm republishing the show starting from episode one as a podcast. So it is a podcast feed, it's on iTunes, it is classicnoagenda.com, a great idea so you can relive the memories in this new time-life series. Classicnoagenda.com.

1:31:50 And the note from Scott McKenzie, we know him from One Day in Gitmo Nation. He's published books completely surrounding the memes and the No Agenda show. I thought you'd like to know I've published another No Agenda short story as we say on the show, a giblet. And it's on Amazon. Here's the blurb. A 90-year-old man lies in critical condition after being foiled in his attempt to murder a Republican candidate for the upcoming presidential election. Hospital porter Gordon Gunderson finds himself drawn to the old man, but why would someone so old and frail try to assassinate a public figure? And what does it have to do with an event in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947? He's also making the foot on the shore story free in the Kindle store.

1:32:34 And you can find all of the links for this at noagendanovels.com Portions of the prosees always support the program and it's just fun to have. I love it. When we moved and I unpacked my books, I had a hardcover of One Day in Gitmo Nation signed to me by Scott. And I think it's cute. Did you ever read that? Did you read the One Day in Gitmo Nation story? Outstanding work. It's a pretty good story. I have to say, I liked it. So check all that out in the show notes at 639er.noagendanotes.com. Dvorak.org slash N-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-N-O-A-

1:33:09 And of course, you can always do something very important, which is go out there and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Sleaze! Shut up, Sleaze! That was a long segment with all these anecdotes filled with anecdotes. A lot of stuff to do. Oh, I also tweeted Matt from AP.

1:33:47 Oh yeah, good. What did Matt say? Well, he had another... We talked about it on the show where he said to Bandcamp girl Marie Harf, he said, is there a YouTube video we can see for proof of this? Yeah, that was great. Yeah, great line. So I tweeted, I said, if you're ever in Austin, drink something. Yeah, he told me. He said this on the last show. Yeah, but he tweeted back. Oh good, what'd he say? Deal. Anything for a journalist, anything for a free beer. Deal, he's in. I'm all good. He'd be a great guy to know. He looks like he'd be a lot of fun, for sure. I have one little segue clip that I think is worth noting. This is the Mac and Cheese kills clip, local story.

1:34:35 Okie dokie. KTVU News has learned of disturbing new information about a deadly pedestrian accident in Berkeley. The victim was well-known psychology professor Joe Luft who was out for his daily walk. The 98 year old professor was struck and killed back in April while in the crosswalk at Sacramento Street in Bancroft. Police said the driver, 56 year old Robert Gilchrist of Oakland, was legally blind and driving on a license that had been suspended 14 years ago. And they say he may have been eating a bowl of macaroni at the time of the crash. Few slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Not a day goes by that I don't receive a picture of some mac and cheese meme somewhere in the universe.

1:35:24 I don't... this story is the most ludicrous thing I've heard for a year. And why even mention it at all? Blind license. Why? Why even mention it? Eating macaroni. Why even mention it? Top of the news, my friend. Top of the news. That's what it's all about. That's... we got to make it fun somehow. But I... last night I was... I have to say I was somewhat depressed. Why? Just the constant showing of footage. It's not like this is new. Oh, the Gaza footage, right? Oh, man. Yeah. It's just, they're really, really, really rolling it out. They're pouring it on. Yeah, it's, yeah, pouring it on is the way to say it. It's very not okay.

1:36:13 No, not only that, but it's just a little excessive in more ways than one. I mean, it's top of the news. They run half the news item. I mean, if you listen to any of these stations, all the foreign ones, Van Cat, half the show is... I mean, but how can it be that, you know, someone in a performance on live television shows a nipple And the whole world freaks the fuck out. And you're showing people being blown to bits and dying and dead and bleeding and just ripped apart. And it's just repeated because it's great. How sick is that? How wrong and sick is it? Well, talking about sick, the whole educational side of the equation, like, for example, the public broadcasting group has a series now I wanted to get it. I should get out, maybe get a clip for the next show.

1:37:05 On sex with sex and animals it might as well be sex with animals. I want They're showing they're masturbating an animal screen no no no no no do you have a clip? I get the clip for the next show what kind of animal it was a porcupine no You gotta be very careful doing that Yeah, you're gonna hurt yourself. Why were they doing this to show that he had a two-headed dick? It was disgusting. I had to turn the show off. I mean, it was all they had all these animals having sex and then they jerked off some poor porcupine who do the guy claims enjoyed it. And I'm thinking this is bestiality. It's illegal.

1:37:48 How is this not bestiality? And they're showing it on public broadcasting. Just no problem. Hey, kids need to learn this. There's nothing there. You have no need to learn this. In my day, you know, we might like, you know, fry a fly with a magnifying glass. That was kind of the extent of what we would do. Yeah, well, they make a big fuss about that cruelty to animals. Well, apparently in the American In the entertainment industrial complex, we have no shame whatsoever as long as we can promote something that'll make money, i.e. the porcupine masturbation show, which caught your attention for some reason. But we will go to any length to create controversy

1:38:37 In order to get people to pay attention to something. Okay. And I have two movie PR clips which I'm all ears bugged me bugged me This opens up in a week or two and of course we need some controversy right now for the movie Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Which did this when I was they did this years ago? What the the movie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, they're doing it again doing it again a reprise of all things So we need to promote this Of course, so... And I know one of the producers which irks me, Scott Mednick, who's kind of like a Hollywood sissy nanny boy. You know, he comes from money and he's always, you know, Facebooking pictures of him with, you know, like Robert De Niro. Oh, on set with Bobby. Fuck you, Mednick dickhead. And now he's promoting the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and this, I don't know who this, whatever actors are in there, he's like, oh, we're on set with blah, blah, blah.

1:39:34 So he's promoting and then I saw and I hear this story. Okay, good work everybody. We need to go see this movie. Paramount Pictures has found itself in the middle of some controversy. A poster for the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie appears to have offended some people. On Tuesday, the studio's Australian branch tweeted this image that shows the turtles in mid-fall from the roof of an exploding New York City skyscraper, along with the movie's Australian release date of September 11th. Some people say considering the parallels between the image, the release date and the 9-11 attacks against the US, it was an insensitive choice. This is a completely fabricated story. And this is... No one complained about this. They're making this up now. I got a great idea. I know... Here, put the... Wait until this hits the wire. They're gonna love it.

1:40:25 Yeah, no, this is a totally fabricated story you can tell. Great way to promote the movie because now people are talking about it. Oh, did you hear about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle? Let's go see it and see what's in the movie. And we can do lots of, yeah, we can do lots of stories. It's a great little story and then you can have people tweet about how outraged they are. And here's the other one. Apparently, Philip Seymour Hoffman did a movie before he died. I'm sure he did a couple actually before he died. And, you know, so we got to promote the movie that he's in and it seems like there's some good actors in this movie. And, you know, let's clip something from this movie that'll grab people's attention. And we'll put that in the trailer and we can have some, you know, we can talk about like, oh, I can't believe they did that. Annabelle, good to see you.

1:41:11 Excellent she's talking right to Philip Seymour Hoffman. She says that Just might get you killed every little bit of heroin. That's just a piece of crap heroin. Yeah, I guess there's that implication. Yeah, it's exactly. Talking about the thing, there's a meme going on. I don't know where it's headed. You might have some thoughts on this. I don't know if you even picked it up, but you probably did. About the 28 missing pages. And we talked about this. We, we played the clip. Yeah.

1:42:01 And there is a website which we promote. Oh, there's a website. I don't know about the website. Yeah, 28pages.com or .org, I think. Yeah, they tweeted me and I retweeted them. Yeah, this is... People are, you know, they want this out. They want the 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission Report declassified. So I have a clip that just came out with Beck. Glenn Beck, and he's got some guy on who read the thing and there's a hand wringing over it and the guy can't say anything. And by the way, if the congressman read this thing and he signed no matter what he signed, he can go. I mean, if this thing is so important, that's what makes me think it's not important. Or I think there's some sort of a red herring, this 28 pages. A congressman can go on the floor

1:42:42 say whatever they want. They can reveal state secrets on the floor of the house. Is that true? Yeah, you're immune from anything, any legal action. You're immune from all legal action, from whatever you say on the house floor. And that's what these guys have been bitching about the guys who moan and groan about the NSA. I think it was Snowden or one of these or Luke Greenwald or some of these guys have mentioned that these guys they bitch and moan but they could say some of this stuff on the House floor but they won't do it. Because it's a gentleman's agreement, essentially. So somebody could go on and say exactly what's in this 28 pages on the House floor, but they won't do it. So we get this sort of thing, and then I wanted to discuss it one more time. Some sense of control. Right now, all of those things are upside down. Congressman Nassi joins me now from Washington, D.C.

1:43:34 Congressman, how are you? Doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me. I'm concerned. This is the guy who did the press conference. Messy. There's been a bunch of these guys, right? Well, this is the guy who played the clip. Because I know you can't say anything because anything that you say can and will be held against you. So, you know, you're going to have to talk as cryptically here. But I was gravely disturbed by your description where you said you had to stop and refigure history every couple of sentences. Can you give us any other description other than that? Well, absolutely. You know, when 9-11 happened and shortly thereafter, we were all like sponges. We're trying to absorb as much information to understand the who, the what, the why, the where.

1:44:22 And then, but at some point you quit collecting information because there's no more information to be had or you think there's no more information and it all sort of sets up like concrete in your brain. Well as I was reading these 28 pages I had to try and take apart that concrete that had set up my own understanding of what had led up to 9-11 and what had enabled it. And then also what really hurt me was to wonder why Why did my government keep this from me for 13 years? What were their motives? And I'm, you know, there will be anger, frustration and embarrassment when these 28 pages finally come out. Those are all emotions that you described that I had. I just had a thought about this. Okay, good. It's the timing. The timing that is most interesting.

1:45:13 I'm sure that what's in it is something about Mossad or Israel. And I believe that's why it has come to the forefront now. Well, the two key words in this, and that's the reason I wanted to reintroduce the topic because we didn't really get anywhere, is led up and enabled. Yes. So this is not about... It's not a smoking gun or anything like that. Right. This is not about explosives being in the building and then it was brought down by pushing a button like WTC7. It's got nothing to do with anything. This is about led up and enabled. So in other words, it's all pre 9-11 information. Yes, exactly. It could be Mossad something or other. It could be... Well, that's long been the conspiracy is Mossad involved. I don't think it's anything other than... I don't think it's going to be anything like this. I think it's going to be very boring. I think it's a red herring. Well, someone has to be

1:46:09 someone has to be the scapegoat. So let's just think about this for a moment. Who could be the person who's going to get shafted over essentially what is going to be nothing? And I agree that The way it's being played up and the minute Beck gets involved and this guy's on Beck, please now you're insulting my intelligence Yes, so it sounds like there's someone's going to have to get shaft and I believe Beck saw it seen the doc you might have you might have who do you think there's a couple people who do you think will get shafted for this I saw it's funny because I saw some Well Beck indicated if you I would try to deconstruct assuming that he may have seen the document or he's talked to this guy on the side Confidential, you know stuff in the background

1:46:48 He said, Beck said that it won't affect the Obama administration in any way. How about Powell? How about this for now? Well, Powell's already taken a hit. Recently, news indicates that he was left out of the loop, the CIA loop about a lot of stuff. Which I think is actually clearing his name, if anything. I think that's bull, I agree with that. I think it's bull crap and I think it's also bull crap. I think this is just another, this is one of the Many, when it boils down, it's going to somehow affect Clinton and it's going to hurt Hillary. This is another roundabout way of making sure Hillary doesn't get on the ticket. I would agree with that. I would agree. That would be a good way to do it. Let's throw 9-11 on the bitch. Right. Whereas the true travesty is the Wall Street Journal reports today, the total bill to date

1:47:46 And the Wall Street Journal, I would say they've done their homework. Healthcare.gov. Now we've complained in the past, John, about $18 million websites for things and, you know, Drupal thing, you know, for $12 million and just crazy, crazy money. Yeah, you can get some kid to do it. I got it. I can just trip over some bum on the street and they could do a Drupal site. Well, that's only in the mission. What do you think the Wall Street Journal reported as the cost? The headline reads, poorly managed healthcare.gov construction cost. I'm going to say that a lot of that was also back end stuff and integration. So it's a lot more than just a website. I mean, that's ludicrous to even report that. And tech reporting in general, including the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and all of the leading publications is so

1:48:37 Pathetic that words like glitch are used and it always ends with the future of tech will show us who knows how things will develop. There's not a tech...well there are actual tech reporters but they're not allowed to write anything because it's too...people don't care. They don't care, they just want to know if their phone is going to work, whatever. How much do you think they calculated this cost to be? 1.2 billion. Not quite that. 840 million dollars. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it is kind of ridiculous. Got a note here from going back to Hillary. Do we have to?

1:49:20 I can save this for the Sunday show. Yeah, why don't you do that? There's so much other stuff. Do you have anything on the Israel and Palestine thing? I've got a couple of clips we just listened to. You know, I was... Since I was working on the Ebola thing... Yeah, you kind of... I just... Makes total sense. Fast forward all that stuff, it just seems like a bunch of two-way propaganda. Everybody's trying to push their side. I don't believe any of it. I mean, I believe people are getting killed. Yeah, but that goes on all the time. You know, looking at what's going on, the way this is being presented, I'd almost think that Twitter and Facebook are behind this to increase engagement. Well, they're definitely getting their money's worth. Because that is really working. Now, I got a couple of dumb clips here. Let's see. Jen was back briefly. Jen Psaki. Oh, Jen was back. She was back briefly. Did you get a clip of her? I got a clip of her and Matt, of course.

1:50:13 I just love that guy. I bet no one in DC takes him seriously. Oh, there's that grouchy old drunk. You know what I mean? Yeah, who knows? They defer to him. So that's a plus. Well, he needs a fan club and I'd send him hookers. Hey, there's plenty of hookers in DC. You don't have to send them in. We can't afford those. I mean, we sent something from San Antonio. I have to say, in all of the press, mainstream press,

1:50:49 I have a bit of hero worship for him. Is that strange? Yes, it is very odd. Very odd. Because he's funny. Man crush. Yeah, it's a bromance. Yes, exactly. He's funny in a very snide way. He reminds me of a younger John C. Dvorak. Drunk the reports of the children killed while playing on a playground is devastating and tragic I don't have more information at this point But we certainly urge all parties to respect the civilian nature of schools and medical facilities Are you ascribing? I don't want to use the word blame. Are you ascribing the attacks on? the explosions of the schools and hospitals and

1:51:32 Are those Israeli strikes or are they Hamas errant missiles? We don't have any blame to ascribe at this point in time. Obviously, these events just happened over the past 24 hours. I love it. Just a missile. That's all we can do. You can't put any blame on anybody. It's just a missile. Marie was back on broth. This is now... Wait, wait, wait. Stop before you continue. Since you're in contact with this guy, why don't you ask him what the deal is with Saki? What why she got I did I I did tweet that oh you didn't what do you say? I did not get an answer. Okay, he doesn't follow me. So I Guess I just have to get lucky. I don't know why why doesn't he follow me? I am a bit hurt by that He probably doesn't follow While you're talking I'll figure out what his mentality is regarding this. Oh

1:52:24 He tweeted the so-called proof of these pictures with arrows of Ukraine and you know, all the here is clearly where there's a missile base or a launcher and here's the name again. What's his full name? It's a P Diplo at a P Diplo I think is a Twitter a P Diplo Matt Lee. Yes, Matt Lee, right here is a summary Harf bandcamp girl and is, I guess everyone likes the show she does with Brolf, with Wolf Blitzer. Because she is on all the time and Brolf gives her a little bit of crap and she pushes back and she's got a cute little dimple in her right cheek and they do real close up and she's got the nerd glasses on and I can see where the producers are enjoying this little tata tat as Brolf is pushing very hard. He's in Israel right now and he's going through tunnels

1:53:20 And he's doing all on the, you know, all on the boots on the ground reporting and he's got a fantastic tan. God, that guy looks healthy. The Obama administration, the US has accepted Israel's request for a resupply of ammunition, some weapons stockpiled in Israel for Israeli use right now in this war. That's presumably going to cause some diplomatic headaches from the United States if some of those weapons, some of those munitions wind up killing civilians, for example, in Gaza. Are you concerned about that? Well, Wolf, we've said, not just in this conflict certainly, but in this entire administration, that we are going to stand by Israel and do a number of things to help it defend its security and to help it, whether it's Iron Dome, which is of course a defensive system, or helping the Israelis with security funding. We're going to stand by them as they fight this threat.

1:54:09 But that doesn't mean that when we think they could do more, we won't say that. And I think the Secretary's been very focused on the diplomatic efforts. He's in India today, as you know, but has already made a dozen phone calls to partners to see if we can get a unilateral, excuse me, an unconditional, not unilateral, unconditional temporary ceasefire put in place so we can stop the fighting, so we can take some time to see if we can negotiate a longer term ceasefire. Stop the fighting? Unilateral, I mean unconditional. A note from Sir DH Slammer. Gentlemen, Mrs. Sir DH Slammer went to high school with a guy that now works for Booze Allen Hamilton and is assigned to the State Department Image PR team. Unfortunately, he is not assigned to Marie Harf, but he knows the person who is. We have planted the subconscious idea that he should get Marie to say on microphone, and this one time at band camp,

1:55:08 If this wonderful, amazing, fabulous event does occur, then the Slammer family takes full credit. I pray every night for this. Oh, and this one time at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. So, this is one of the few times, John, when I am just... I don't know anymore. I just don't know anymore. I do not know. We've been through the recent history of what is going on here. We've been through the historical history. It's just everyone who is... People just killing each other. That's it. We kill them, you kill us, and the media porns it up and shows all the blood and the gore. I don't see anything else. There's nothing else that makes any sense. Oh, and by the way, everyone has an opinion. That's also... I don't know what to say. I'm kind of almost done with the topic.

1:56:07 I am kind of done with the topic. Mm-hmm. Okay, you talk about the Middle East mom Israel Palestine or Gaza? Yeah, Gaza Middle East is not the Middle East is to Intercept the case to his action. We got all that kind of good stuff a lot of interesting hat and stuff happening We just sold We've approved a 700 million dollar sale of Hellfire missiles to Iraq That's the biggest order so far Well, we're making money on the deal. We have right off the coast here, I can see it from my house, we have a tanker of Kurdish oil. which is now being offloaded onto buyer's tankers. Although a judge has tried to sign an order to seize it if it came within the territorial waters, which it's not. So, you know, this is a hundred million dollar cargo which came from the Kurds, from Kirkuk, through Turkey, into the big ship and we're buying it here. And I don't know if we're going to use it or we're going to ship it off to other ports of other origin.

1:57:11 The pipelines are so full bore from Kurdistan that the tanks at the Turkish port of Sayhan are full. They have to actually stop the pumping through the pipeline. So much oil has come free and I'm looking at $3.20 here for gasoline. It should be about a buck fifty. Sure, but I haven't seen it this low in a long time. Yeah, it's not that low. No, but it's much lower than it's ever been. Yes, well, it should be lower. Okay, but you get the point. Yeah, I know, it's putting downward pressure. Yeah, I'll say. I'll say.

1:57:56 So, you know, I read the Institute of Research on War or whatever, you know, the Kagan stuff every single day and it just seems like, you know, we're...seems like everything is A-OK, good to go. I mean, Turkey's in a weird spot. We have...so we...they've had to halt the oil, as I just said, because everything's filled up there. There's also, I got a Turkey, little crazy thing going on in Turkey that's needed. This was, I believe this was on... Is this about the arrests? More arrests? No, about the women smiling. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good, good. Where is it? Women in Turkey, sniling. Yes. Yeah. This was a good one. Time now to see what's trending on the web. Let's check back in with Hermela. Antonio, photos of Turkish women laughing are going viral, but it's not because they're happy. They're doing it in protest of recent comments made by Turkey's deputy prime minister.

1:58:49 At a celebration for Eid, Boulent Aring said that to protect moral values, women should not laugh in public. Hundreds of thousands of Turkish women are defying that sentiment. They're posting photos of themselves laughing all over social media. But for many of them, it's really not a laughing matter. Turkey is one of the worst countries for women's rights. According to a 2013 Global Gender Gap Report, it ranks 120th out of 136 countries. Given that reality, the Deputy Prime Minister's comments provided fuel for members of the more secular opposition party. Opposition member Melda Onur tweeted, while so many murders are being committed, the Deputy Prime Minister makes women a target by stressing the need for chastity. To her point, in the last decade, the murder rate of women in Turkey has skyrocketed and domestic violence is also

1:59:38 also a major issue. About 40% of women in the country have suffered physical abuse at some point in their lives. What you're not hearing is, or maybe you are, is more and more Gulenists, Gulen supporters being arrested, thrown in jail. 11 police officers, 103 people detained. I feel that this is still all a setup to get Erdogan out. in the president and the elections that are coming up. I don't think there's any question about that. I think we've already decided that. Right, but this is good because you have this clip. The Washington Post also wrote a scathing article. I just don't know who is going to come in his place. You know, they got some guy lined up. We just don't know who he is. They've kept him under wraps. I'm sure if we had some... Do we have any producers in Turkey?

2:00:29 Um, I don't know. Yes, we do. We have one of our producers is teaching over there. Well, he would, if he was thinking, if he actually thought about this, he would figure it out. He will let us know because this is, yeah, yeah, he'll, he'll get, I'm sure now that he's heard this, he'll get back to us. Now, I'd like to talk about Russia and the Ukrainian situation, but it's really much more than just, it's really just all F Russia, essentially. And I ran a couple of backgrounders on this before you started. Yeah, please do. I have, because Doug Herbert, my absolute favorite analyst, Doug Herbert's the guy, the bald guy on France, France, Mancatra. And he was the one who clued us into the Crimean situation months before anybody else even noticed. Is this about the deal?

2:01:22 This is about the deal. The deal. The deal is... I love this deal. All of a sudden things fall into place, don't they? Well, a lot of things do, but let's listen to his summary of the deal about the sanctions against Russia. And the deal. that came up and he's got a different little take on it. The other people I've listened to the Addy or whatever her name is, Ade, Libby Ade or whatever her name is, that blonde girl on Boom Bust on RT. And of course she's going to be spouting the party line. And it was a little different than this. The headlines sound great, right? Toughest sanctions against Russia since the Cold War. And look, let's not poo-poo them. They are tough in the sense that they hit a lot of different sectors, defense, energy, banking, financial. Key element being the oil industry, right? Russia depends heavily on its oil industry. It needs to get at hard to reach oil deposits as its own production sort of tapers off.

2:02:30 in the Arctic, in the deep sea, shale gas. It doesn't have that technology. It needs it from outside. So that's where the sanctions in the future could really bite. That said, as one analyst referred to these, these sanctions come with both the EU and the US loopholes that are large enough to drive a couple of giant warships through. And what they meant by that It sounds a little glib, but what they meant is literally the French Mistral, the naval contract to sell ships to Russia, that's excluded. That's exempt from this. So they're going to probably still get at least one of those warships. The entire Russian gas industry, let me say that one more time, the entire Russian gas industry, perhaps

2:03:10 The biggest thing on which Europe relies from Russia is exempt. They have no part in these sanctions. The sanctions apply to the oil industry and technology, not gas. Totally exempt. Plus, and we often forget this, Europe does actually buy military equipment from Russia to service things like tanks and other weapons that it purchases. It's going to continue most likely buying those parts. That's not exempt from these sanctions. So Russia's defense industry, while hit and and there will be an arms embargo. It's not going to be crushed. It will continue to operate. So there are big holes, there are loopholes. These are tough. They're not the giant sectoral sanctions that we've been talking about.

2:03:46 That is correct. And I have here the background, the transcript of the background conference call on Ukraine. This is what the White House does this and they're never allowed to, the reporters are never allowed to name the officials by name, just a senior administration official and the background on the sanctions. And besides what would extremely correct here on your guy, what's his name again? Doug, Doug Herbert. Old Doug, bald Doug. Here's the senior administration official from the transcript. You've seen the actions that we've taken here are very carefully constructed. Yes, indeed they are. These are not prohibitions that would attach to a Russian account holder moving money and dollars or moving money abroad. These prohibitions are targeting the banks themselves and their long-term stability. Here's what's interesting. It's not blocking.

2:04:34 What it is, is a prohibition on them obtaining medium or long-term debt financing up to 90 days. So you're allowed to do business with the Russian banks as long as it's a 90-day deal and not over 90 days. And what they're saying is that all of these sanctions are hitting the banks who have huge... who hold US dollar debt. I think that's very significant that they're essentially, the way I see it, not allowing the Russians to unload their debt to strike our economy. Does that make any sense?

2:05:11 It makes lots of sense. It would be a good thing to try to attempt. I don't sure that you can't circumvent anything such as that. When you're discussing this, the thing that also kind of got my attention was when the private banks aren't affected. And I think there's five banks in Russia that are owned by the government and they only affects four of them. There's one bank that's free to continue on its merry way. I have not gotten to the bottom of why that is. Independent today, They announce a big story, headline, Land for Gas, Merkel and Putin discuss secret deal which could end Ukraine crisis. Nice picture of Putin and Merkel shaking hands. Very, very good. And here it is, Germany and Russia have been working on a secret plan to broker a peaceful solution to end international tensions over Ukraine.

2:06:07 The Independent can reveal that the peace plan being worked on by both Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin hinges on two main ambitions, stabilizing the borders of Ukraine and providing the financially troubled country with a strong economic boost, particularly a new energy agreement ensuring secure degrassed supplies, which makes nothing but sense. Now remember, we're not so sure the Germans are on our side in this. In fact, there's a lot of evidence that says they're not. More controversially, if Ms. Merkel's deal were to be acceptable to the Russians, the international community would need to recognize Crimea's independence and its annexation by Russia. Sources close to the secret negotiations claim the first part of the stabilization plan requires Russia to withdraw its financial and military support for the various pro-separatist groups.

2:06:52 As a part of such arrangement, the region would be allowed to some devolve powers. At the same time, Ukrainian president would then agree not to apply to join NATO, which of course is a big deal. This is the border, this is the front line. In return, Putin, President Putin would not seek to block or interfere with Ukraine's new trade relations with the European Union under a pact signed a few weeks ago. Second, Ukraine would be offered a new long-term agreement with Russia's Gazprom for future gas supplies and pricing. At present there's no gas deal in place as we know and supplies are running low. So Merkel is trying to broker this deal and at the same time we have the IMF making all kinds of horrible noise because of course, you know, we need more sanctions. You know, this is not working out, you're not able to pay us back, we need more tax hikes. So a real fight and if this secret negotiation is true,

2:07:50 Then we will have a major problem with Germany. At least the Atlantis' globalists such as Kerry and the Kagan's and the Yaley's and all these a-holes are going to have a big problem with what she is doing. At the same time, there is a bonanza going on with the money. There's a lot of money that has been frozen, frozen assets. And you'll recall in my initial analysis of the Netherlands after the MH17 crash, how much the Dutch economy really thrives on Russian imports and exports of the same imports. They are just a pass-through country. But they also have very, very favorable tax laws, i.e. almost no tax on certain types of income, no holding tax.

2:08:40 And many, many Russian oligarchs and corporations have their financial base in the Netherlands. They're all BVs. And when the Jukos case came up several years ago, the Dutch overturned a Russian decision. And that's when the Russians said, oh my God, we can buy off these judges here in the Netherlands. We need all of our stuff in Holland. And would you know it? The Yukos case came up again. There was an international court case in The Hague with Dutch judges on the panel and look what happens. I'm delighted to confirm that those final awards, which were unanimous, are very favorable to the claimants, the GML Limited Subsidiaries, Hulley Enterprises Limited and Yukos Universal Limited, together with Veteran Petroleum Limited. The three claimants have been awarded total damages of in excess of $50 billion.

2:09:36 This is, by a multiple of more than 20, the largest arbitration award ever. But I do want to note that the Tribunal, in the final awards, specifically and unanimously confirmed that in their view, the attacks by the Russian Federation on Yukos Oil Company, its founders including Mikhail Khodorkovsky, and its employees were politically motivated. and that the primary objective of all the Russian Federation, the primary objective of the Russian Federation was not to collect taxes, but rather to bankrupt Yukos and appropriate its underlying assets for the benefit of the state in the guise of Rosneft. So they have assets frozen in Europe and now they're just saying, oh, okay, here it is. And they're going, this is not reported this way, but someone's getting 50 billion and the pussy ride, they're jumping right on it. Oh,

2:10:29 Yes, we are there in Strasbourg in court. They want to recover $336,000 from Russia for their costs and all the stress that was imposed upon them. Everybody is now jumping in. Hey, do you have some kind of emotional distress because of the Russians? You can just start a lawsuit and there's a big pile of money. Go ahead and just sue them. Take it. You're going to see all of these lawsuits because there's money to be had. This is the old trick. And then of course... ...crease assets over here in our banks and then sue them and they take it from the frozen assets they got no control over. Exactly. So it's a bonanza. No! Yeah, I got, yeah, I had lunch at the Russian tea room and I didn't feel good, but I'm gonna sue them. Give me my money. Don't you think this is beyond chicken shit? Well, Russia hitting back. We know one thing is a fact to date.

2:11:33 The United States of Gitmo Nation, the military industrial complex filled with the Atlantisist globalists, have never invaded a country where we have a McDonald's corporation on the ground. I believe this is true. You've heard this. No? Yeah, but still, I mean, McDonald's first showed up in 1955. It's like a track record of like 60 years or so. I don't think that's much of a standard to compare with. McDonald's makes a lot of money in Russia. I think it's time to kick them out. And that's exactly what Russia is doing. The production and sales of some of McDonald's products is likely to be banned in Russia. Legal sanctions may affect cheeseburgers and royal cheeseburgers, fillet of fish, chicken burgers, ice cream with bear fillings and milkshakes. Wait a minute, did you hear that? Bear fillings? I heard ass cream.

2:12:26 Ice cream with bear fillings, burgers, filet-o-fish, chicken burgers, ice cream with bear fillings. Ice cream with bear fillings? What kind of a hamburger is that? It's a Royale! Ice cream with bear fillings. Hold on a second. How come I haven't been offered that here in Austin, South Congress? And royal cheeseburgers, filet of fish, chicken burgers, ice cream with bear fillings and milkshakes. Such requirements were submitted to the Tverskoy Court of Moscow from the Russian Federal Service for Consumer Rights. The content of fat, protein and carbohydrates in these products did not correspond to the data indicated in information sheets. The violation was revealed as a result of a routine checkup conducted in May of this year in two restaurants of the chain in the city.

2:13:23 Well, you might as well play Doug Herbert's part two because here's where he talks about what the Russians can do to us. What about a potential backlash? Could this come back to bite Europe? Yes. Yes, in the ass cream with bear filling. European companies are openly already talking about this. One of the biggest companies targeted by the sanctions is the largest oil producer in Russia, Rosneft. And there are several companies, European ones, with big ties. British Petroleum, BP, has an almost 20 percent stake in Rosneft. It has said, it's come out and said, we are going to be, and its words were, adversely impacted by these sanctions. You have ExxonMobil, U.S. oil giant. It also has a joint venture with Rosneft to do what? To explore for

2:14:07 article that we're just talking about it in the sanctions exxon mobile company can be hit beyond the oil industry carmakers french carmaker renowned giant carmaker it along with a nissan in japan they have a a controlling stake in russia's largest selling automaker a company called off to a pause day could be hit. Renault already says it's seen a big sales slump in sales to Russia. And you can just, the list keeps going on. And Putin himself has warned of very big consequences, a big backlash. Russian lawmakers are sitting there right now and they're considering new laws, new legislation that they say could outright ban certain Western companies from operating

2:14:44 all together in Russia, companies in the energy and the defense sectors. So Russia's not sitting down and going to take this lightly. They are going to bite back. They are going to lash out. And so you have to sit tight. The question is, how much pain ultimately is Europe going to be willing to take? How long will these sanctions last? And will they be actually willing to take them to an even deeper level if things come to that? I think, I think, no of course not. 2017 you've always called it John, I think we're seeing the beginnings of just that, of the war in Europe. Did you see the economist?

2:15:27 Which of course is a Atlanticist, a globalist British publication. Totally. Russia, MH17 and the West. A web of lies. This is the economist. Vladimir Putin's epic deceits have grave consequences for his people and the outside world. And they lay it out, John. In 1991, when Soviet communism collapsed, it seemed as if Russian people might at last have the chance to become citizens of a normal Western democracy. Vladimir Putin's disastrous contribution to Russia's history has been to set his country on a different path. And yet, many around the world, through self-interest or self-deception, have been unwilling to see Mr. Putin as he really is.

2:16:12 And then they go on to say, the shooting down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, the killing of 298 innocent people and the desecration of their bodies in the sunflower fields of eastern Ukraine. It's above all a tragedy of lives cut short and of those left behind to mourn. But it is also a measure of the harm Mr. Putin has done. This is the Economist, man! Wow, that's a good catch. That would be clip of the day. The whole article! Under him, Russia has again become a place in which truth and falsehoods are no longer distinct and facts are put into the service of the government.

2:16:50 Mr. Putin sets himself up as a patriot, but he is a threat to international norms, to his neighbors, and to the Russians themselves, who are intoxicated by his hysterical brand of anti-Western propaganda! And it just goes on from there. Huh. But it's pretty loaded up. Oh, and the whole thing is... it's mind-boggling to read this account. It's almost like someone went to the State Department and said, Hey, you got any copy? What are we gonna do? And the State Department apparently, it just sounds like if we back up from this whole scenario, it looks like, and I think with good reason, we would like to screw the EU as Victoria Nuland said. Yes, I wasn't quite ready for it. In any way we can, because they are a threat to our long-term goals of the kind of empire that we've established.

2:17:44 And you gotta, you know, I think this Merkel is, that's why we're spying on her. She is not on our side on this deal. She's a European, is a German, doesn't trust us as well as she shouldn't. She's got a clue compared to the other ones who are clueless. Or too chicken shit to say anything because the Dutch, sorry, get Monation lowlanders, but without Russia, You're already one of the weakest brethren of the EU at the moment. Your entire economy would just disintegrate. Gas, oil, money, that's all you do. You don't produce anything. Right, but they're going to be on our side.

2:18:29 Well, kind of, but they won't really do anything. Well, they won't do anything, they'll just be... Well, they're appeasing people like, oh, how would you... I know! Let's have a sham arbitration lawsuit looking thing and put on some black robes and say, here's 50 billion dollars, go away! Whatever the case is, Merkel is not playing the game the way we want it played, obviously. She's an independent thinker and it's screwing things up. And so now we got to figure our way out of this. Who do you think was her case officer? Who was supposed to get her in line? Was that Obama? Who did they think was going to talk to her and make her see the way? Well, it wasn't George Bush who one time put his hands on her to give her a shoulder massage and she'd just shoot him away. She freaked out.

2:19:15 I think, I don't know, I think that the German intelligence service has probably got some savvy people working there and they're just not putting up with what we want them to do. And it makes you wonder, and I'm glad this is coming up, it makes you wonder with all these Tor people, I'm looking at you Applebaum, all of these, Grengreen, Donald Rav, Laura Poitras, everybody hanging out there, WikiLeaks, Sarah Harrison, they're all spies, the whole thing, they're all against us. Tor completely compromised Look at the financing of it you can figure that out and they're all living in Berlin I mean Snowden's one thing but you've got these a-holes living in Berlin Come on people

2:20:12 Of course, I don't have any dog in the hunt. I mean, I'm a world lover. Oh, we do. I love everybody. Just look at these things and say, well, maybe this is what's going on. Totally. Definitely not going the way we want. And then somehow, I guess Obama felt really bad that he wasn't involved in the deal. He's kind of like the sad kid who doesn't get chosen for the dodgeball team. Like, oh, they breached the nuclear treaty. Which is like no legs. Oh, yes.

2:20:50 They've been testing missiles against all laws from Reagan's time. Come on, do better than that. It's, yeah. So I think it'll be very, very important to see what happens with, if this land for a gas deal is true. It probably is true. You usually leak those things in some fancy way to get, to see what happens. And so you can deny it. But you wanna see what the reaction will be. So this stuff, you can't just pull this off out of the blue. Because this is the mistake that companies make with new products sometimes. They just bring a product out and then they just say, hey, you left the, this happened to Texas Instruments when they brought out the TI-99. Hey, you know, a control key is usually valuable. You know, they kind of.

2:21:44 There was a missing key. I don't remember this controversy. Yeah, well, it was back before your time. No control key, I love that. There was no control, there was a key missing. You know, lots of kids listen to our show and they love our show. It's our theory for... The jingles. I tweeted this out but I want to make sure I played the audio. It is a video of producer Craig's daughter, two and a half year old daughter. She's sitting in the car seat in the back of the car with that big smile on her face. You know, she's got like her socks on, her legs are sticking in the air. You know how kids can be, right? Like she just took a dump. Like, hehehehe. And then she says...

2:22:25 And she said it with all her might, you know, like she's like, it comes from her gut. It's really good work. Get on those kids early. Very, very good. Hey, let's take a quick break. Cause we, before we do, I'm sorry. I do want to go right after this. I want to bring this up, but you were talking about PBS and NPR. Yes. Yes. I think, I think I heard some violations by the way. Yes, I'm hearing them all the time. Now tell me, I'm going to play a KQED, little bit that was on one of their shows, it's a PBS TV, and tell me that this is not call for action. Okay. My name's Kaki, I'm a teacher, and I am KQED.

2:23:16 Donate your car and help pay for the programs you love to watch on KQED. Are you a fan of Masterpiece? Can't get enough of Antiques Roadshow? Never miss a night of the PBS NewsHour? Call 1-866-573-3123 or log on to kqed.org slash cars to schedule a pickup. While you're there, learn more about the tax deductibility of your donation. That's 1-866-573-3123 or kqed.org slash cars. Who's you can trust on KQED? And it's just a front. It's a front. It's phony. And there's a call for action. Give them your car. Yes, that is what is not allowed. You are not allowed to have a call for action. You are not allowed to say something is the best. And I didn't know you were going to bring this up because they always have this lumosity.com for the brain, the brain games. This is NPR. And they do say created by the leading scientist, which would be illegal. A violation. A violation. Exactly. And it's so sickening. It's every 10 minutes.

2:24:35 Yeah, well people don't know. And they get suckered into believing that they're people like you. People like you. That's okay. We on the other hand have nothing to promote. If we say something is great it's because we actually love it. If we say something is lame it's because we don't love it. And the only thing we really do love is the people who help us produce this program. Patrick Sullivan is amongst these folks in Sturgeon County, Alberta, Canada, where all the money is. $125 is now missing that much money. I need my summertime driving entertainment and analysis, he says. Michael Bradbury in University Heights, Ohio, $102. It's a combination of $72 and $30, which is the temperature. Apparently $72 in sunny Cleveland as a temperature donation of sorts.

2:25:38 uh... causes the best podcasting universe says i was god walled hair in rheinlander wisconsin a hundred dollars anonymous from somewhere oklahoma i want to read a letter from some from a from a low and donor right here now from a another student and uh... he writes a a a a kind of a new handwritten notes in the mail you could only afford uh... Like 20 bucks. From a cash paying poor student with poor spendmanship to the best podcast in the universe in the morning to you from Gitmo Nation, SoCal. Your analysis is astounding as always. The Hobby Lobby breakdown was my favorite in a long time. It received many blank stares and I was told to shut up in my political science class because of it. Oh wow. Thank you.

2:26:38 Sincerely, student number 33. I love that. Yeah, shut up. You create, don't, you gotta be very slow. You gotta go easy. You gotta find the teachers who might be able to open up and you've got to co-op them, but it's generally not gonna happen. Well, you know, he probably, you got a kick out of it, it seems. Yeah, of course. It's beautiful. Anonymous in Summer, Oklahoma, $100. And that's Mark Pugner getting the $99.99 in from Schaumburg, Illinois. Jason Kirk, Williamsport, Pennsylvania, $78.23. Jake Sims in Raleigh, Mississippi, $7.777. Sack of sevens. Johannes Hammerson in Munich, Deutschland, $75.

2:27:28 Been listening to the show for quite a while. I finally hit two of my friends in the mouth and realized, holy crap, they're going to call me out as a douchebag. So he donated. Paul Webb, 6666, in Twickenham. He wants to fuck cancer. UK, yes, give him that. I'll do that with the Jobs karma at the end for everybody. Sandra Ferreira in New York City. Oh, guess who's back? Anonymous Lesbian. Oh, did you get a note? Yes, I got a long-winded note. This is a long note. She says we don't have to read the whole thing. We do know that she loves you. She has a crush. Crush on you, yes. Crush. It's different than love. It's a crush. Yeah. I polished, sent a Hayden CD. I expect, I apologize for the long pause between donations. I've been traveling for work too much to stay on top of my postal obligations. Thank you for all the excellent analysis of late. Without you, I don't know how I would get through each crappy day. Oh well. I think it's funny.

2:28:36 John, now that I have a sense that you like your classical music straight up and old-fashioned, in quotes, by the way, I think that's why it's called classical, I thought you might enjoy my latest CD, which is more classical instead of experimental. Is that something that we can play on the pre-stream one of these days? It's a little, no. No? Well, I played List this morning. Oh, you played List? I'm all we have a DJ power boy. He he always sends me tracks and He sends me classical from time to time and I really like and I start off with some classical tracks as usual She says please feel free to read this or not on the air. I don't want to waste our time I'm off to save the world one violin concert at its concerto at a time. Yeah, and it's nice it would the address return thing was a dot L dot being

2:29:34 And it had a bunch of 69 cent stamps on it. Anyway, that would be the anonymous lesbian. Thank you. Marv Santalia in Tucson, Arizona. Double nickels on the dime. Andy Benz, St. Louis, Missouri. Double nickels on the dime. Jesse Simonen. Double nickels on the dime. Eric Ryan Osnes, which is a very, I don't know how to pronounce that name, A-A-S-N-E-S-S, in Lawndale, California. Osnes. Oskree.

2:30:15 Yeah, and bear filling. Austinous. Austinous. Stephen Rico in Winston-Salem, 5321. Oh, okay. He's gonna want some karma. Yep. Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, $50.69. And he comes in commonly. And we only have a few left. There's only two, as a matter of fact, with $50 donations. Calum Dugan, Parts Unknown, and David Durall in Fort Royal, Virginia. And that concludes the segment here of the producers that donated $50 to $200. And we appreciate every short list today, I have to say. Well, we were lucky with the execs and associate executive producers. Well, Horowitz saved the day. Horowitz. Yeah, Horowitz. Not Hora, Horowitz. I never said Horowitz, I've always said Horowitz.

2:31:06 But of course we highly appreciate everyone who comes in under $50, our 1212s, our 33s, our some 4 an episode. It's all appreciated every bit. Right, including the note from student 33. Heck yeah. And our student who was an associate executive producer. High school student. Yes, these kids got a clue. Yeah, well... And that is what Mickey and I talk about this all the time. I am finally doing what I want to do. You're doing God's work. No, far from it. Don't you feel good about this? I like our range of donors. I like kids that like the show, even though there's some profanities in the show which could be reduced. But I like kids who, and I'm partly responsible, I like the fact that we have a range of students. We have a lot of college

2:32:01 Students we have a lot of people in the intelligence community. We have army navy air force marines science Doctors lawyers around the world. Yeah, we have a very I like the broad range of people who are free thinkers gay straight transgendered lesbian queer questioning Asexual all kinds of sexualities all kinds of religions right it is. How does that possible? I think we have too many Rosicrucians that I know of. You never know. I just like it when someone says, hey, you changed my life. You made me feel better. That's what I like. Well, I think it's I think what I like is when they say we're not taking a different view of things. So we just don't we're just not fishing the water and getting hooked on every stupid thing that comes along. And some of this stuff is pretty lame. Yeah.

2:32:49 A lot of it's lame. I watch these shows in the morning and these bobbleheads are bobbing yeah, yeah, yeah to every stupid thing that comes along. They agree with everything and then you hear it on the streets. It's terrible. Did you ever watch Morning Joe with Mika Brzezinski? That became Morning Jew? Eastern Times. Until I had a new health care crisis, the US Surgeon General is calling for immediate action to stop the rise of skin cancer. He'll explain why the new cause for concern. Keep it right here on Morning Jew. Joe. And I'm thinking, that's a great floor. This should be a show, Morning Jew. Why not? Yeah. No, of course not. I would love to hear that. I'd tune in for that.

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2:35:06 Yeah, the Dutch Frisian. Yeah. Yeah, well it could you would know I wouldn't I know Frisian and I'm no good at it But I'm told there's there's similarities there and we have two nightings today, which is always a very joyous occasion Which means that we need to that there were three? Don't think so let me check we have Philip we have Daniel and Aiden became a baron So there's three on the list, but Sir Philip became a Baron, Dan becomes knighted, and Aiden is knighted. By the way, Aiden says he'd please knight me, Sir Snarkle. Yeah, Aiden will be knighted. Sir Philip became Baron. Aiden is going to be knighted.

2:35:52 We don't have a huge... Sometimes it's too confusing. It's not a big operation here at the Noah Jenner Show. We make it look easy and we make it sound good. I know I make it look easy if I can't keep track of two guys. Basically just stuck together with some gaffer tape and bailing wire. That's kind of what we're like. That's the way we like it. Luckily though, we always have our blades at the ready. Yeah, it's going to be good. There we go. There you go. Okay. Dan Horowitz, step forward in Clark. to The Brotherhood and I hear by night the Sir Dan, builder of batty cars, knight of Porn Valley and Sir Snurkle for you. Girlfriend experience and good bourbon. Porn stars and pot, puppies and pot, mushrooms and maker's mark, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, bomb hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts and maybe just some mutton and mead.

2:36:47 And head on over to noageneration.com slash rings. Your well-deserved rings will be sent to you courtesy of Eric the shill and thank you again. It really, really, really, really is appreciated. Can't say it enough. Can I? Hey John, do we have any tech news? Uh, there's no new phones. Oh no! What? No, there's no tech news. I hate to be... There's no new phones and uh... No. Apple hasn't made an announcement so... Well then I'll have to talk about something boring that's not tech news.

2:37:23 I may have something on my clip list here that might be... We need to talk about the podcasting patent, the developments in this. Oh yeah, yeah, I know, it's great. Well, we're going to be hated again because we're the only guys who seem to have our heads on straight about this. I think I have some, although it appears less and less, some validity to talking about podcasting and the... You were once known as the Podfather. I still am, but people on the street still call me that from time to time. Do they? But that's only in Texas. Yeah, Jesse the Pool Boy. Yeah. He calls me the Podfather. He's also 18.

2:38:06 Yeah, the old pod. The old, hey, old man. So we were quite, I certainly was quite adamant that the, first of all, that this lawsuit or this suit that was brought by Personal Audio against a number of outfits that they were trying to protect their patent, that they, I do not feel they actually qualify as a patent troll. Although the reporting on this is so atrocious, even Ars Technica, it's just so bad. People do not do the work at all. These are the actual owners of the patent who have brought suit. And then we find out that Personal Audio dropped their suit against Ace Broadcasting, Adam Carolla, what's the name of his LLC?

2:39:00 I don't know, Corolla Broadcasting? No, it's something weird like Loritz or something. I don't know it. Something kind of stupid. And what they say in a note, they say, we've investigated and there's no money to be had from any of these outfits, certainly not from Corolla, so we're dropping our suit. We find it interesting that Adam Carolla continues with the, it's not a counter suit, it's counter claims. I know something about this because I've been through this and they say, you know, he is raising money now to fight a fight that doesn't exist and we feel he's only doing this to raise money for his own personal gain and to have material for his show. Now the response

2:39:48 First, as expected, from people who continue to send him money and who support the David versus Goliath story, is, as expected, hey, they're backing away, they're afraid, and the big man's gonna go kick their ass. So let me put some sense into everybody about what is actually happening. On the 10th, the 14th of July, the parties entered into arbitration. And that means they were trying to work out a deal. And the deal, I presume, was going to be, let's just all back away from this. And of course, money has been spent on lawyers and it's, I remember my MTV lawsuit against Viacom, it wound up costing me hundreds of thousands of dollars to essentially settle out of court. They did allow me to start a company, but the lawyers got the majority of the money, which is always the sad thing in all of these cases.

2:40:48 There is no counter suit per se, there's a counter claim for lawyers fees and as is typical with this type of lawsuit for the judge to declare the patent invalid. This will not happen and there is only one course of action that should be taken, and I urge Adam Carolla to send the money he raised. I'm fine if he wants to deduct his lawyer fees or whatever, and I'm sure it is, you know, $100, $150, $200,000. The rest of the money should go to the EFF who get no ink at all, who are going the proper route to invalidate a patent with a patent review process,

2:41:26 The judge has agreed that there is a possibility the patent can be overturned. It is the only correct course of action. Any other course is, in my mind, the borderline criminal to take money and give it to lawyers to pretend that they can have a judge overturn a patent, really in a case that is not going to happen this way. It's just not. And although I don't like the Electronic Frontiers Foundation, the way they also jumped on the patent troll bandwagon, because as much as it pains me to say,

2:42:06 Their patent was awarded and the way it was awarded, just like one-click ordering, which if you have that on your website, you have to pay fees for that. MP3 is not free. If you have a player, you have to pay a license fee. The patent system may be broken, that someone is able to patent this type of quote-unquote process or invention, but it is... You were doing no justice by focusing on a so-called patent troll who actually is not a patent troll when the system is broken. And it's now boiled down to, let's kick the troll's ass instead of look at how stupidly broken the entire system is. And even EFF has used the troll meme, which

2:43:00 What does it even mean, really? I mean, is... are these guys really ugly people living under a bridge? No. They are going through the proper process, a very expensive process to do, and they're moving forward. They're getting no ink on this at all, and this process will take... the schedule is out, it'll take up until December of this year before they've even done all the discovery. And I think there is a very good chance that the patent, the 504 patent as it's known as, will be invalidated. Apple is already all in. They were very smart by paying a license fee for Playlist. Also, no one's really talking about that. How ludicrous is it?

2:43:38 in this world that the concept of a playlist can be patented and Apple lost but they were very smart and they said, okay we'll pay this 8 million dollars but it's for any other version of your patent so when podcasting came out they didn't have to pay anything extra. For Adam Krohler to say that there's a gag order. I see no gag order in the in any of the piece any of the Documentation I think that's a lie He's just being very quiet, and I don't like that people are being hoodwinked for this money to essentially go to a Process which I don't think can win and here's the interesting thing I mean he's a publicity guy he knows how to do it. He's smart and

2:44:23 And if he actually, he could actually bring attention to the EFF, look like the great hero, and give the money to them. Take that pot of money and give it to them and they'll spend it, you know, they don't steal money. They're not a bunch of guys that say, oh, thanks for the money and then pocket it. They will use it because they got a lot of lawyers. They will use it to really fight this thing. And he'll look like the good guy. I mean, he could take credit for the whole thing. He can still take credit for it if the EFF does it because he essentially financed it. So that's all I want to say, really. I think it'd be a smart move on his part to do what you suggest. But whenever I suggest that,

2:45:05 The hate. What? Yeah, people hate me. Why do people? Yeah, I don't know. It's how people are. You don't have to think about how this is going. You seem to have a background. You know this better than most. You're just jealous that you're not number one on iTunes like he is. You're just jealous that you didn't patent all of this stuff. Oh my God. I don't give a crap. Why do they care? It's like these These Apple fanboys, and I write something which is fairly mild about how I think the I Time is not going to be a winner because it's just a you know another gimmick And I don't even think it's gonna see the light of day quite honestly

2:45:41 quite honestly. Everybody's, the Qantas apparently make manufacturing them. Oh, okay. Well, that's possible. So I mean everybody's got it lined up, it's going to come out, but whatever, but whether it goes anywhere is another story. I think it will initially, because all these guys will buy one and it'd be kind of cool to have one, I suppose, for a while. Sure. Sure. Like the nerd, especially if you have a Google Glass and the watch. Of course. You look like, you know, I'm a cheap magnet. So anyway, so leave me out of it, everybody, please. But definitely Let's do that. I mean, I'm all for stopping this, this ludicrous process and I'm all for Adam Carolla getting his lawyer's fees back and you know, he could be a little more transparent about it, whatever. That's fine. I don't care. I really don't care. I just don't care. But I think EFF is, and they asked me very early on and I said, look, I don't like how you speak. I don't like you using patent troll. You know, why don't you just be a fucking professional lawyer and go after these guys, but don't try and,

2:46:36 sucker me into something and Dave wanted the same. We were like, no, I don't want to be a part of that. You know, then we never, never intended any of this to ever be patented because if there was a patent on it, if there was something that was restrictive, podcasting would have never taken off. The whole idea is to have it open. So of course, you know, you've got idiots trying to grab money, fine. But let's do it properly. And not just give money to lawyers, just throwing money away. Nothing against lawyers, as you know, I'm a groupie. But it's just, man, please. So, all right. Another jingle we've been playing... This is from the animated series Archer, I guess. And I don't know what came first, us or them.

2:47:25 This is a two-parter and it's an animated series, John. Are you ready for the... It'd take about nine months to get out of the can. Well, this is an old theme. Nothing that is unknown. It's in based on fact in the way, but the nuances are so no agenda You just have to I've never seen the show, but these clips nail it okay Slater I know it's a little sooner than we wanted operation dropkick Roger that what's operation dropkick? Well the endgame has always been for us to invade San Marcos, so hey Donna We got a carrier group in the Gulf right wait if you were gonna invade San Marcos Then why have you been selling weapons to?

2:48:06 So he could fight the rebels. Which is you. Well, technically they're mercenaries from Honduras and Guatemala, but yes. Yep, airstrike, naval bombardment, amphibious landing, whole magilla. Calderón needed weapons to fight the rebels, but he didn't have money to buy weapons. He only had cocaine, but Iran was like, no way, cash only, so... Iran? Ooh, sorry, Iraq. Wait, no, Iran. Doesn't matter who. Anyway, to buy the weapons, we needed to monetize the cocaine. And what do you think they're talking about in clip number two? Go we've been selling cocaine for the CIA so they could buy arms from Iran did we at least free some hostages No, this was about our annual budget. We don't spend it this year. We can't get an increase next year. It's a good show What show is this Archer Archer? Yeah and amidst the we kind of predicted this we needed a lot of

2:49:05 noise and distraction. In fact we could probably call this the... The Distraction of the Week regards the brand new Transparent Airfares Act of 2014, which includes a nice little hike by the TSA for their per passenger fees for each individual airport, which goes straight to the ticket. It's actually each segment that you fly.

2:49:40 The Transparent Airfares Act, which is just so appropriate the way they mentioned that, now allows advertising of the base fare. So here is an example. Round-trip New York, $99! And it does not have to include taxes, baggage fees, handling fees. That can all be in a small disclaimer. And that is now it's going to be codified in law that this will be the transparent way. So essentially the law itself has allowed for consumer deception. Yeah. Legally it's now consumed. This is how Elizabeth Warren is going to get into office. Let me read it to you and you'll shit yourself.

2:50:30 So this bill or this act amends existing code, Title 49. Title 49, the other section, amended by adding the following. It shall not be an unfair or deceptive practice under Section A for a covered entity, that's going to be airlines, to state in an advertisement or solicitation for passenger air transportation the base fare for the air transportation if the covered entity clearly and separately discloses a a. the government-imposed taxes and fees associated with the air transportation, and b. the total cost of the air transportation. For purposes of paragraph 1, the information described in paragraphs 1a, 1b shall be disclosed in the advertisement or solicitation in a manner that clearly presents the information to the consumer.

2:51:17 You know what this is? This is like the car commercials where you have those little letters that fly by. It's more than fine print. And with respect to an advertisement or solicitation for passenger air transportation that appears on an internet website, this isn't law, people. How does the government, why the government is encouraging deception by law, actually almost requiring it? Yes. What idiot would go any other way? If it appears on an internet website, the information described in paragraph 181b may be disclosed through a link or a pop-up, as such terms may be defined by the secretary that displays the information in a manner that is easily accessible and viewable by the consumer.

2:52:03 IE they don't even have to put the fine print on the same page. Oh, so here's what here's how this works Everyone turns off their front pop-up, so there's no pop-ups that no Yeah, so you have the simplest the kind of pop-up that is always blocked by Firefox And that's where you put the information and you get a little message. There's a pop-up you want it now No, no, I don't want it click. Yeah And the covered entities in this case are air carrier, including an indirect air carrier, foreign carrier, ticket agent, or person offering to sell tickets for passenger air transportation, or a tour or tour component that must be purchased with air transportation. So this can even go for tour components, which could be your cruise after you fly there.

2:52:45 Yes, this is indeed complete corruption. It's not just a tax, it's going into commercial companies' pockets. This has been lobbied for. It is just disgusting to see this. And to cover for all of this. We have the TSA who come out with a just fantastic idea. John, we could have come up with this. We're going to issue a reward of $15,000 if you can figure out how to make the checkpoint lines, which of course are meant to save us from a terrorist, the checkpoint line move faster.

2:53:28 Let's listen to a report about this heading through the airport security and is isn't exactly what you would call fun But the TSA is holding a security checkpoint challenge The security checkpoint challenge to offer you some cash to play along King fives Jake Wittenberg's at SeaTac Airport to show us how you could help get lines moving faster. All right Even at TTAC Airport, things can be frustrating. The lines pile up quickly for the morning and afternoon flights. It can be frustrating for a lot of folks. So now the TSA wants to offer $5,000 to the person who comes up with the best idea of how to overhaul all of this. They've got several categories now. General screening, premium, pre-check. They have passengers in wheelchairs, crew, flight attendants. How do you merge them all together? We asked a lot of you passengers about whether you had any ideas for the money.

2:54:17 I wish I did. That'd be fabulous. But no other than maybe not having to take your shoes off. Pre-boarding, pre-check-in, pre-security screening. Yeah, I get tired of having to undress everything. But I don't have a lot. I'm not traveling business this time. So with family, it's a little slower. I hate taking my shoes off. We don't want to walk around where people have been walking around in who knows what out there. Over the past year TSA's tried to make things run smoother with fewer restrictions and the new Pre-check system, which is a kind of express lane for you frequent flyers Oh for this challenge though TSA wants more than just a rough sketch They want a legitimate concept that can be used in airports across the country and evidence that the concept could actually work Now let's two things here one

2:55:02 Notice how the pre-check has gone from you have been pre-screened and we have checked you, your background, we have made sure that you are not a terrorist to you're a frequent flyer. This is a very big change. The best idea gets put to use. $5,000 for first prize, but they're offering up to $15,000 for other prizes as well. Second, third, fourth, best ideas to overhaul the system. The deadline for you is August 15th. So again, we're not looking for a back of the napkin kind of thing here. The TSA wants a legitimate idea, whether it's a mathematical configuration, better ways to shorten the lines and make things less frustrated. Okay, I have an idea. Do you have an idea?

2:55:45 No, I got nothing. I got no idea. Yeah, I got an idea. I got an idea. Go back to the old ways. Here's my idea. Build a bigger theater. I'll take my $5,000. Thank you very much. Build the bigger... has spotlights. And now coming down aisle one, Mary Morgan. Oh man. I have one more thing I'd like to do before I'm done for today. We promised.

2:56:25 This is a... Alright, now to the latest in the battle for NSA reform. Senator Patrick Leahy introduced new legislation today that puts sweeping limits on US surveillance through the USA Freedom Act. Here's Leahy announcing the bill this morning. This is a debate about Americans' fundamental relationship with their government. About whether our government should have the power to create massive databases information about its citizens or whether we are in control of our own government not the other way around. This is a bill 14602, 97 pages, known as the Leahy Bill. Everything about it sounds good doesn't it?

2:57:18 Oh yeah, yeah, I like the title too. The title's good. This act may be cited as the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective Discipline over Monitoring Act of 2014. It's an acronym, John, for USA Freedom. Nice. Really, they paid someone a lot of money for that one. And as you might guess, this is anything but freedom. In fact, there's a couple of things that I...something I need to ask you. This is all about what the NSA or FBI or the DNI or any of these security agencies and communities can or cannot do when it comes to assessing a threat and tapping phones, requesting records, etc.

2:58:09 And they specifically, there's a new term which it's not defined in the document, which is rare. Because typically when they come out with... Yeah, they have definitions. What's the term? Tangible things. Tangible things? And everywhere they're talking about a record, a call record. So of course the section I look at is emergency authority. Emergency authority for production of tangible things. And I'm not sure why it's tangible things. And there's no definition in the document about tangible things.

2:58:52 Internet of things is the first thing that comes to mind, but tangible things... So anyway, if there's a... Discernable by touch. Helpable. Possible to touch. Possible to be treated as fact, real or concrete. Tangible evidence. uh... possible to understand or realize law that can be valued monetarily tangible property something palpable or concrete tangibles material assets tangible adjective capable of being touched or felt having real substance a tangible object capable of being clearly grasped by the mind substantial rather than imaginary tangible evidence having a physical existence

2:59:38 corporeal, tangible asset, often plural, a tangible thing, a tangible thing or asset. I don't think any of this is tangible unless you print it out and put it in someone's hands then it's tangible. There's a reason for it we don't know why lawyers, lawyers will let us know. Stek will probably have an idea. So the thing, I looked at two things and specifically section 102, emergency authority, this is the overriding So basically everything is senseless because of this clause. Emergency authority for production of tangible things notwithstanding any of the provision of this section, the Attorney General may require the emergency production of tangible things if the Attorney General can A, or if the Attorney General A reasonably determines that an emergency situation requires the production of tangible things before an order authorizing such production can with due diligence be obtained.

3:00:34 I don't think our Attorney General is reasonable. In fact, I think he's quite unreasonable and he's just a man and he can make up whatever he wants to make up. So this document is useless with this clause alone. He also B, reasonably determines that the factual basis... reasonable, reasonably, just reasonably. What is, what is, give me the definition of reasonably, John, please, since we're at it. Reasonably. Okay, reasonable. Or reasonably or reasonably. Reasonably determines. Reasonably determines. Okay. Reasonable. Capable of reasoning. Rational. A reasonable person. Governed by or being in accordance with reason or sound thinking. Being within the bounds of common sense. There's our word. Ah, there it is. That's all we need. It's common sense. It's done. You're done.

3:01:30 It's just common sense that he determines the factual basis for the issuance of an order under the section to approve such production of tangible things exists. C. Informs either personally or through a designee, a judge having jurisdiction under this section at the time the attorney general requires the emergency production, he has to tell a judge, and makes an application in accordance with this section within seven days. So basically, you know, all these, I don't even have to tell you what the other uh section say about when you can be spied upon because the attorney general can determine it's an emergency by common sense and then we have section 105 liability protection liability

3:02:17 No cause of action shall lie in any court against a person who a. produces tangible things or provides information, facilities, or technical assistance in accordance with an order issued or an emergency production required under the section. So any company like Apple, well you know, has a back door into your phone, they can receive an order, an emergency order. Law side? So Obama was coming into the city, and JC, Buzzkill Jr., has an office across the hotel where Obama was coming. What hotel does he stay in when he's gone? In this case, they were blocking off the Intercontinental, but we don't know what hotel he was staying at. But the Intercontinental was going to have a meeting or something. It was right across the street, that big blue one, that big new one. We ate the lunch there once at the restaurant. I'm going to have to make a trip to San Francisco.

3:03:13 I need to come and hang out with you. We need to have lunch. Yeah, I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? Yeah, okay, come on out. Anyway, I would like to go to Austin. I haven't been there for a couple years and I'd like to look around. You are welcome anytime. But anyway, so he noticed that all of a sudden all the iPhones in the office were draining. Wow. And you do this at the end of the show? I didn't think about it. I could have talked about this a couple of shows ago, but I forgot about it. But he says they were draining like crazy. As if all the speakers had all been turned on or whatever. He says there was nothing you could do about it. The batteries were just going... and of course they're apples, so you can't take the battery out.

3:03:56 And so these things were just on doing something. He didn't know what. He just, you know, he put it in aluminum foil or something. Wow. It was like right across the street. Apparently he talked to one of his friends that was a few blocks away. And this was everybody's phone, not just his. So everybody in the office. But he talked to some guys a few blocks away and it wasn't that their phones weren't being affected by whatever it is that they were doing. And no other platforms were evaluated such as the Androids or anything else? No, all the phones were being tapped. But you can turn your Android, you can take the battery out of your Android. You can't do anything about your iPhone. Well not only will... Because you get with a dead phone in like no time. So according to this bill, no company shall be liable for providing this access even if there's no order for it other than the Attorney General has used some common sense. You will also not be held liable if you otherwise provide technical assistance to the government under this section.

3:04:55 Or to implement the amendments made to this section. And of course, section 106, compensation. The government shall compensate a person for expenses incurred for production of tangible things. Here's... Oh nice! Yes, reasonable expenses. I guess just as reasonable common-sense expenses as common sense for the emergency order. Yeah, a man hour or two, a man day. Whatever it is. of top men. Yeah. And then there's a, of course I did look at the definitions, address, a term address means a physical address, electronic address, such as an electronic mail address, temporarily assigned network address,

3:05:39 or internet protocol address, or even your Mac address. It's a beautiful, beautiful document with a fantastic name which is just going to give the government the powers they really truly seek. The FBI is all over this thing with all kinds of indemnification because they of course are allowed to actually listen in. And then... It's been a pain in the ass for the FBI to have to go get warrants on every time they wanted to wiretap. This is so much easier and then it allows, you know, you got more donut time. And then there's the national security letters have changed in... They're not going to call them NSLs anymore. It's a prohibition of certain disclosure.

3:06:26 In general, if a certification is issued under subparagraph B and notice of the right to- That's in this bill? Yes sir. Holy crap. Notice of the right to judicial review, no financial inci- this is for the banks in this case. That receives a request or officer, employee, or agent shall disclose to any person that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained access to this information or records under subsection A. So they can say, emergency! They can call up all your financial records which is also insurance records, it's all kind of stuff and no one is allowed to disclose this. The director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, designee of the director, the only thing that will be allowed is the CEO of an entity will be allowed to say yes, the federales have requested some information and that's about it.

3:07:23 And it's a lot of legalese, but not hard to read, and it will all go through the FBI. This, I think, is telling and new that the FBI, and maybe it's just Leahy is the FBI guy in Congress. He's definitely not the CIA guy. He's not the NSA guy, but the FBI and the NSA are in bed. I think this is part of the big battle between the agencies. Might as well be called the FBI snooping act of 2014. And when you see the line, it's marked up in the show notes, anyone can go and take a look at it. When you see the non-disclosure, it's just, it's reams of text.

3:08:07 And this is all good news nice way to end the show too. Yeah What do you want you want dead children on a beach or do you want to hear about to the FBI? Well up to you up to you. It sounds like the same well Play us out with something fun then big boy. Give us. Well. It's nice. Give us some I want something fun I got it. Okay. Well, let's get out with something. That's meaningful not just fun. Oh Let's play the douchebags on Meet the Press. And it's very disappointing to hear journalists be so one-sided about marijuana. I'm sorry, okay, yes, I get it. Why don't we tackle something that few people can agree on here at home and that's marijuana. So the New York Times this morning with a major statement, a lead editorial calling for the legalization of marijuana by the New York Times. Here's a portion of the editorial board piece this morning. There are no perfect answers, the Times writes, to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use, but neither are there such answers about tobacco or alcohol

3:09:06 We believe that on every level health affects the impact on society and law and order issues. The balance falls squarely on the side of national legalization that will put decisions on whether to allow recreational or medical production and use where it belongs at the state level. David Brooks, you've weighed in on this debate before. I disagree with him on the larger issue. I don't know what they've been smoking up there. They go to the office. I'm sorry. That was such a good one, John. Anyway, I have two basic issues one the effects on the teenage brain really are pretty significant They acknowledge that it is real. I just don't I don't think we can sanction say adults fine vote if you're 18 You can't do it. That's just not gonna work. I don't think second Activity that most of us mature out of most of us age. I guess the way we

3:10:04 Stop, stop. Most of us, when somebody would come out and say most of us, meaning us, us, us, mature out of it means he was a pot smoker. Yeah, isn't everybody? Well, he was definitely a pot smoker, so you got to be the height of, I mean, he could have been in jail to this day. because of some... No, no, no, no. Only if he was black. Well, that's... Big mistake. Big mistake. Definitely be in jail. You gotta be black and smoke some pot. The level of hypocrisy with these people is beyond... it's just unfathomable. You can play it out. We want to spend our minds, but...

3:10:41 And here's something I do agree with my colleagues on. I could be wrong on marijuana. And so I wouldn't mind some state experimentation. And really what the editorial is calling for is federal legalization to allow some states to leeway. So even though I'm opposed to it, I think throwing it to the states might be a good idea. So what are we learning from the states? Yeah, I think we're learning from Colorado that at least in terms of revenue there's a great deal of revenue, right? 184 million, something like that. Also, at least these early statistics show that there's a slight decrease in crime. I think it's about 3% year over year from 2013 to 2014. But isn't it still early? It's still really early, it's true.

3:11:19 And marijuana legalization as a budget issue seems a lot of tough for the parents. We can make a lot of money on tobacco also, but we don't want that. I'm with David. You're making like your make on tobacco. I don't have a huge problem with letting states experiment, but I think for states to decide to go the full legalization route is a problem precisely for my mommy reason. You know, you can say that it's okay for adults, but everybody knows who has teenagers like me. The fact that alcohol is legal increases their access to alcohol, making marijuana readily, legally available will increase their... and my kids are at home laughing at me. All right. Go put a helmet on your kids. Put the knee pads on. Make sure they always feel like they're a winner.

3:12:03 And don't let him grow or smoke a plant lady, please. It is a vast social experiment. We do not know the outcome except that the best evidence is that you lose, if you use marijuana as a teenager regularly, eight IQ points and I don't know about the rest of the table, but I don't have eight to lose. Well, that's yes, fact. That's for sure. Finally she said something about eight IQ points. What does that even mean? What does that even mean? It sure is not nine. Study show. And is that from one dose? And what is a dose? Alright everybody, we have shown you the hypocrisy of the mainstream media. We have gotten to the bottom of, I think exposed... Bottom of the barrel. Bottom of the barrel.

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