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00:00 So we blew up the Brotherhood pipeline. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, June 19th, time for your Gidmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 627. This is no agenda. Commandeering six screens simultaneously and coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights, head out to the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've got one crummy screen, I'm John C. Dvorak. Well, I gotta tell you, I'm very, I'm freaking out, I'm so happy, John. Okay.

00:38 Now, on Sunday I told you about... Wait a minute, this has nothing to do with Benghazi? No, I'm not happy with that. No, no, no, no. This is much better than Benghazi. On Sunday I told you that I had this issue where I have the new podcast set up in the rig running on a MacBook Air. And that's where kind of a lot of the audio stuff happens. And then I have these other screens, which is the kind of the legacy system. But they're big screens and that's where I've got the, you know, the show prep and the show notes and the web browser and everything. And inadvertently I'll be typing on one keyboard going, ah, and I'm typing, it's not the one for the machine I'm on.

01:17 Okay, and you know helpful producers sent me tons of ideas KVM switches And then Producer Mike the cock he was the first and a couple other people sent it blew my mind With this thing called the synergy project no oh man So the synergy project open source works on PC Linux and Mac You load it on the main machine that is going to be like the server, but is the one that has the keyboard and controls you want to use. Synergy-project.org

02:00 And then you load the client on any other machine. And then you can position these screens virtually. So I now use the one mouse and keyboard, and I go down to the bottom of the screen and it appears on my MacBook Air. I go to the right and it appears on the Windows machine that's running my ham stuff. It's the freakiest thing you've ever seen. Wow. It's really cool. It sounds cool. Well, nerdily it sounds cool. Oh, but I mean how often have you had like, you know, like, oh, if only I could have all these systems integrated. You know, if I could, you know, I hate going back and forth between... So it's called a Synergy Project. Yeah, synergy-project.org. Huh. And it's open source. I donated 50 bucks to the guy immediately. I mean, people, you have to support independent software developers like this. I mean, this is a fantastic... This probably saved me a thousand bucks on a stupid Apple monitor I would have had to buy. Well, if it saves you a thousand bucks, it's well worth 50. Yeah. Well, it's value... Hell yeah. I just never... I'd never even heard of this before.

03:04 Well, that's the problem, you know. In the olden days when I was a kid, a young writer, we used to write about stuff like this. Yeah, exactly. And it would be great and it'd be successful for the guy and then he could go to these little conventions and put his floppy disks in a plastic baggie and sell it for $25. Plastic baggie, you got it. Yeah, right? Yeah, nowadays they just write about phones. Oh, the new phone is a different shade of yellow. Oh, look at it. And you can drop it from a half a foot, six inches, and it won't shatter. Oh, I have to say, I was watching, I was flipping around watching the coverage of the Amazon Fire phone. Yeah. And it was really funny. If this thing had come from, if this had been from Apple,

03:47 People would have been, oh, they're so genius over there at Apple. And now it's all this disdain. It's true. It's Amazon. Oh, well, oh yes. And I think, you know, I don't want this phone because yeah, I don't need more cameras tracking my face. Thank you. But from Amazon, I think it's a genius move. That's a beautiful phone. It's a beautiful phone and you get a free year of Prime with it. So it's almost free. Mmm, not quite. You know it'll be free one day, but it's a little that's the joke of it It's got stuff in there that people actually care about oh yeah, just oh yeah, I got this buy this it's a cash register I know I but just the the disdain of the tech press because Amazon The joke of it is that the tech press is

04:43 Of which I am still a member the tech press in general is just They're not analytic anymore. Well, let me give you another example So also yesterday and they're all in you know, I was there when let me tell you this story So I this is from years ago when Mac user was hey, welcome. Welcome to the Walter and Statler show everybody. Oh So this was years ago, one of the editors of PC Magazine says to me, he says, you know, I don't believe that the kind of lack of objectivism there is involved with some of these people that are writing. This was a while ago where the Mac user staff was in a meeting with the PC Mag staff and in a meeting with the shopper. There was a big, giant editorial meeting of all these hotshots. And the Mac user staff gets up

05:36 This woman, I think her name was Pamela something, they get up and as they leave they say Mac forever. Macintosh über alles. It's like what? Wow, really? Yeah. So here's another example. There were a couple of different things announced yesterday. Yesterday T-Mobile unveiled their Unradio service. Is what they I guess what I'm not sure what they're calling it, but the idea is if you're streaming music on T on your T-Mobile phone that data will not count towards your Overall data usage and help you know that will hit make you hit your eventual data cap. Yeah Yeah, T-Mobile is kind of oriented toward unlimited data anyway, but the light but but where is the outrage over

06:28 Neutrality. This is, I mean, so wait a minute, so if you stream the No Agenda show, that does get counted against your data cap because we're not on Pandora or whatever other service. Right. But where is the tech press going, well this is a fine example of, no, instead they're fawning over it. Oh great, free all you can slurp music. Yeah, no it's true. I don't see anyone saying that. I don't see anyone saying that. Yeah, no it's a pathetic operation right now. I mean, there's just a bunch of, I don't know, I'll complain about it in my memoirs. When we're dead. As long as people are helping us out on this show, I'm fine. Right, when we're dead we'll talk about it. Dead, that's where we're dead. The guy sure held a grudge. He held a grudge into the grave. Oh man.

07:20 Well, well, well. Hey, I'm sorry to hear about your dog. Oh, jeez. And I heard about your dog on Facebook. Yes, and this is what irks me. I haven't really called her out on it yet. My wife's dog died. Her favorite dog. We have lots of dogs and we still do. It's a pretty dog. But there's a favorite dog, this Basset Hound who weighed nothing but a racket constantly ever since she was born. Oh, it's the one who would always be barking back in the day. Yes, indeed. And you'd always complain about this dog. Oh, now I feel bad. It's your fault. And so the dog was all... In fact, I still have a bunch. I should have... Oh, you know what? I'll do it for the next show. I'll clip some... I've got clips of the dog howling.

08:00 It used to be kind of funny, but we're talking five, six years ago. This is a long time ago. Well, the dog finally died because she had cancer. It was unoperable. And but Mimi, the dog was supposed to die like two years ago, like within a couple of weeks. Oh, so about two years ago when the dog was diagnosed with cancer and going to die in two weeks, Mimi started just, you know, pampering the dog. And so the dog went for two years. Sleeping on her bed. Oh yeah. I know, listen, I've had plenty of pets. I know the curve. So the dog goes two years even though she's supposed to die in two weeks, all the expertise out there. Let me guess, two years and how much?

08:48 I don't know. I don't believe. Thousands, I bet thousands of dollars. Oh no, no, no, no. No, we did, we got around that one. Oh. It was just really feeding her custom made food and it turned out she lived even longer due to the fact that the dog really perked up when she was given Vienna Franks. Now, it's not that, but Vienna Frank, of course, it's not because you're going to hear what I say. Vienna Franks are one of the worst abominations ever put in a can. These are canned Frankfurters. And they come in these little cans and these little Frankfurters. I think some people actually eat these things. And whatever the case is, the dog loves them. So she'd go through cases of these things.

09:32 So here's what galls me. My wife tells her Facebook community before she tells me about the dead dog. I knew that was extremely offensive. I knew that was the case. Just another element of the reason I hate Facebook. Well, I have to... People have to this, to these anonymous Facebook followers. Yeah. And of course, I mean, do you want me to read some of what the people said in response? Oh my God. Only if it's funny. Well, what do you think it is? And I doubt it. Oh, I'm so sorry. I know you love the dog so much that I feel for you and the dog. God bless. God bless. So here's the posting is from Mimi. Hannah, June 2004, June 18, 2014. Most demanding stubborn dog I've ever known. I didn't know she went June to June. That's interesting. Yeah.

10:31 Uh, ten years, I guess. Yeah, ten years, which is, you know, eh. Okay, twenty-eight comments. Let's see. Uh... Twenty-eight comments. Oh, I'm so sorry. OMG, I am sorry. Sending love and hugs to you! Hugs. Now that's saying something! H-U-G-Z? Now hugs in asterisks. So sorry for your loss. Happy trails, Hannah. Say hello to my gang at the Rainbow Bridge. So sorry, Mimi. Hope you feel comforted that you gave her the most loving home and lots of love for her life and may have been something she wouldn't have had without you. RIP Hannah.

11:13 Sorry, Mimi. Never easy. Oh, I'm so sorry beautiful dog. Godspeed Hannah I do love me some hounds and then there's a couple people just liking it. That's kind of weird. Just like So sorry for your loss. I'm so sorry for you Hannah I hope you connect with my Kobe you will get along great Mimi two years on 22nd my Kobe had gone to the bridge I'm with you God stop Yeah, that's pretty... I mean, that's all that Facebook really is, is reminding you that it's someone's birthday so you can do something completely uninteresting like, hey man, I remembered your birthday! Because of course you didn't. And if you look... So we have an MTV alumni private group that I guess it's people who worked there in the 80s and 90s

12:06 And at a certain point I posted in there, I said, look, the only thing I ever hear here is about reunions and who died. So I'm opening up a Deadpool. This is you. This is you getting kicked out of a group. No, I'm still in the group. But I said, hey, Kalman, my money's on you. I know he had cancer. So I'm like, you're going to be next. He has to laugh. We're very morbid like that. Of course now I haven't heard from him for seven months, so I don't believe he's dead Yeah, yeah, no the Facebook thing. It's just interesting because Never does anyone go on and say my life sucks. I'm depressed. I hate everything even when someone dies like oh Godspeed sending you hugs

12:54 It's a little rough. Yeah, you've made this point before and I think you're right because I'm not a member and I've really avoided it because I just don't have the time and I don't have the inclination. I don't care but I think you're probably your analysis of Facebook is probably as good as any. What, that it's bad for your health? Well, that and all the other stuff you've said. But the trick I do is... Of course, you're still in it, which is like... Well, the trick is I have my... So my RSS feed from my microblog automatically goes to... I can select if I want it to go to... If I want that post to go to Twitter. And probably about 70% does.

13:31 And then anything that's posted on Twitter gets posted on Facebook. And then once a week, my daughter deactivated her account so now it's less. I want to see what Mickey says. She deactivated what account? Her Facebook account. Your daughter? Yeah. She's on Facebook? Yeah. Well good for her! Oh yeah. She's sick and tired of it. You know, I'll go on and people will be responding and they'll have like a whole conversation about a post that was automatically reposted from my blog to my Twitter to Facebook. You know, like, these people having a whole conversation. They think I'm in it and I'm not because I didn't post it there. It just kind of showed up. Yeah, that's another thing that galls me. I've always been annoyed by these reposts. In fact, that's why I've said this before. Anybody that I follow on Twitter, and I follow a few, I think 900 people or so,

14:26 If they're posting, if I see four square something something something, they're boom. They're blocked. I don't want to, if I want to hear where they're having a hamburger or they're, oh I'm at Denny's eating a double Denny's. I don't care. Foursquare and it's got their check-in. They're done. I don't need them. I don't want to know this. I don't want to know. I don't even. I don't like it clogging up my brain. I don't even look at the people I follow on Twitter. I only go on to see what they're saying to me or about me. Well that would be you. Yeah, that makes sense for you. However, Google Plus

15:02 I do use the app on my Nexus because of you know all I go and this is commute. It's like a news group Yeah, yeah, well the ham guys are on there. That's kind of cool another reason. I wasn't really involved with news groups I mean, I followed him once in a while, but I always have no ads in the news group This is you're ruining the internet ruining the internet with ads What happened to those guys? Well, they're now hams There's always anything. Yes So right off the bat, I just want to say I have been evaluating The world of soccer World Cup soccer. Oh, right. We do have to discuss this We have to talk about remind people who especially newcomers to the show that that the two of us have predicted every World Cup winner Since the show and the inception of the show which I think is only one or two matches and and we've also predicted the Pope

15:55 We've predicted, also predicted, Super Bowls. We predicted, what else did we predict? Olympic champion. We predicted a lot of stuff. And we base it on the idea that the games are rigged. Yes. Well, and... Political leverage. And this is not, you know, just some conspiracy in the cloud. FIFA admits themselves that there's, particularly with these World Cups, you've got, aren't these guys, it's mainly Chinese, and they'll come onto the field, they've got the backstage passes, and they'll bribe players, particularly players of poor countries who aren't making mega million salaries like some of these European guys are.

16:39 And if you've seen some of the highlights recently of these goalies that drop, that can't quite catch the ball quite to them and then they throw it into the net. Yeah, oh well. Have you seen those? Yeah, of course, of course. Jeez, come on. Oh, the guy feels so bad. You know, even the football, the FIFA guys, the football association at the very top is pretty well known that they're... in fact, there's a big scandal now about the 2022 World Cup going to Qatar. After Bill Clinton brought in Brad Pitt and everything, it was like this was supposed to be our year in 2022. And it went to a place with a desert where it's 120 degrees.

17:23 That's in the morning. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. It hits one in the morning. And now it's coming out that all of these FIFA guys, you know, we're all bribed. You know, one guy's 10 year old daughter has a $2 million bank account, you know, in her name. Yeah. Yeah. So it was very obvious and that they were just bribed into choosing. So now this is probably the most challenging year we've ever had. because so many countries have so many problems. And there's also just a general, you know, sometimes it's just a general kumbaya feeling that a country has to receive because they're being screwed in a particular manner by the elites. And then there's also just, you know, who is mighty and who wants to show that they are the shit. And Germany, very interesting, Germany this year

18:24 Besides having the hottest footballers wives ever. Have you seen some of these women from the German team? No. Oh yeah. Yeah, but there's no sympathy for hot wives. No, no, but again this is for the we're all powerful and German, the Germans like kind of doing that and they've always gotten quite far in the World Cup. They built a camp in Brazil A 25 million euro camp. By the way, they're good at building camps. They built this... Sorry. Hey, I delivered, didn't I? Good. Actually, one of my Jewish friends gave me that line. Now you're ruined. Yeah, the Jewish lesbian. A 25 million euro camp.

19:14 And they, but it's like 500 miles away or kilometers away from the stadium. Well, it doesn't make any difference because those, the matches are like thousands of miles away. Right. But they're right near the airport. So they hop on the private jet, but it's like a resort and, you know, they're really all in on winning this thing. This is a big deal to them. Yeah. Well, what do you, so let's get to the, let's get to the best. Well, here's what I'm, so let me just give you, and it's also, it's a little early, to tell because... Yeah, we like to pick these, I mean, of course, this is something, well, you always pick get lucky at the end. I've already got my pick and I have a rationale for it. Okay, well, let me give you the feel. Obviously, Brazil, although they did quite poorly,

20:01 Brazil would be top of the list because, you know, they put a, you know, the 400 million dollars in stadium and, you know, people are eating rats in this, they're eating each other in the streets. So it's obvious that it would be nice to kind of smooth that over and make everybody feel happy because they're rioting and, you know, they're having, they have to kill the slaves because they're angry about this whole thing taking place. That would be the obvious choice. Yeah. But there are... And that, by the way, is my choice. Yes, of course. And I want to put it up there. But there are some other obvious ones. I would say Nigeria, for a number of reasons, should have a shot. If only for the fact that, was it just yesterday, 14 people were killed, they were watching the World Cup and someone blew them up. That's kind of... it's a tell, usually.

20:55 But also, let me see if I have this here, Argentina. Yeah, no, Nigeria, I can see the rationale, but the problem there of course is the team isn't any good. The strangest things have happened. That's true, but they're not going to give it to an African team. The Argentinian thing is a political nightmare because what happened, and I know what you're saying because Argentina is not... I have a one minute clip. We can play the clip and people understand the Argentinian situation. The International Monetary Fund has warned Argentina that its legal defeat against hedge fund investors may have wider implications.

21:37 Buenos Aires has already agreed a restructuring plan with the majority of its investors holding its defaulted debt. But on Monday, the US Supreme Court sided with the remaining bondholders who've refused to cut a deal. They're demanding that Argentina pay them almost 950 million euros. Yeah, we can't be prevented from honoring the commitments we've made with our creditors and bondholders who agree to the restructuring of our debts. That's 93% of our creditors who are collecting payments and have collected them on time and have control of their bonds. And by the way, I think it was the US Supreme Court that made a decision. Yeah, isn't that funny? That determines if they're gonna go broke or not. When I first heard this story I thought it was their Supreme Court, but it was ours. And then so the woman that runs Argentina, she goes, we're not going to be extorted! We don't have to pay our bills. And she's the wife of the guy who died, right?

22:30 Yeah, this is a classic Argentinian thing. I like her though, because she's kind of hot. I don't think so. She's got that milfy kind of thing. No, I'm not in agreement on this. I like powerful women. That's what it is. Well that could be. So you know Argentina, Nigeria, Germany just because they've put so much in and they need to show that they are uber-alice. Now how's Ukraine doing? Does Ukraine even have a team? I don't know. I don't think there... I haven't heard anything about the Ukraine team.

23:06 Let me see well, and it's also might not even be in it. It's so far away before Before the finals are played. Let me see well. We can wait until we get to the final I don't think you will call it at 8. Yeah I don't think you create and of course everyone's excited everyone's excited about the Netherlands, but the Dutch always choke at the end No, they're a good team though. It's a great team, but they always choke and Well, I don't think they choke, they're just not allowed to win. Yeah, I think if anyone takes bribes, it's those guys. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, USA would be nice, but... Nah, give us a break. Nah, it's not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. But I think it would have to be an African nation or a South American nation. I just don't see it making sense for it to be any... If the Germans would win, I mean, really? No, that's not gonna work. It's got to be Brazil or Argentina, but I think Brazil, because they're the ones who made the huge sacrifice, got blood in the streets, and they still have the Olympics to go, which is gonna, like,

22:30 Yeah, this is a classic Argentinian thing. I like her though, because she's kind of hot. I don't think so. She's got that milfy kind of thing. No, I'm not in agreement on this. I like powerful women. That's what it is. Well that could be. So you know Argentina, Nigeria, Germany just because they've put so much in and they need to show that they are uber-alice. Now how's Ukraine doing? Does Ukraine even have a team? I don't know. I don't think there... I haven't heard anything about the Ukraine team.

23:06 Let me see well, and it's also might not even be in it. It's so far away before Before the finals are played. Let me see well. We can wait until we get to the final I don't think you will call it at 8. Yeah I don't think you create and of course everyone's excited everyone's excited about the Netherlands, but the Dutch always choke at the end No, they're a good team though. It's a great team, but they always choke and Well, I don't think they choke, they're just not allowed to win. Yeah, I think if anyone takes bribes, it's those guys. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, USA would be nice, but... Nah, give us a break. Nah, it's not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. But I think it would have to be an African nation or a South American nation. I just don't see it making sense for it to be any... If the Germans would win, I mean, really? No, that's not gonna work. It's got to be Brazil or Argentina, but I think Brazil, because they're the ones who made the huge sacrifice, got blood in the streets, and they still have the Olympics to go, which is gonna, like,

24:11 create a revolution if something isn't done. But the Brazilians would be so happy, because they always, the Brazilians think of themselves as the best soccer players in the world, period. Nobody's as good. And so they would be, you know, see it was worth it. It was worth all the money we spent. I mean, it just makes sense to me. And they had to make some, have a couple of clinkers in there, so the game against Mexico, they won't lose a game. But that- Right, just to make it look good. So I go to the meat market, and it's just a, which is an Italian place with all Mexicans inside. And they're all listening, you hear this thing on the radio, the Mexican, Brazilian, Spanish. I once went to the Galleria Mall in Los Angeles during the semifinals, and I think it was Mexico then as well, maybe quarterfinals. And the whole mall was, there was no one in the shop, they were all congregated around the food court.

25:05 Where the game was playing. It was weird. Well, anyway, so they're playing this thing and everyone's cheering in the place. Yeah. And I'm going through the checkout and I'm saying, you know, you guys couldn't beat Brazil if you had to. And, you know, just was checking out before they could spit in my food. Yeah, right. And she screeches, yes, yes, yes. And I said, what happened? She says, it's a tie. Yeah, well, that's good. That's good. And I said, OK, Brazil. And I was assuming that there was like one to nothing and Mexico tied the game with the goal. There was no goals. And you were listening to these this Mexican announcer literally going berserk. And so this is the most exciting thing in the world. It was good. A zero zero game. Yes. It's a great game, isn't it? This is why it will never, never work in America.

26:00 We can't, we don't get excited over 0-0. I'm sorry, nil-nil. Yeah, nil-nil. That's the, it's not the American culture. No, we need, we need points. You know, you get the ball in the net, we want six points. Not one. The UK is in trouble though. There is a huge cocaine shortage in the UK and people are very mad. The Brits need their coke when they're watching the games. Apparently there's like some... I think they use a cocaine. Yeah, well, you watch... Watching sports. Well, no, but what happens is they drink, you see. They drink so much and then they need to, you know, do a little toot for the snoot and then they're wow, then they're okay. And if you don't, then they become annoying and they start fighting and... No, this is very important for... I live there. This is very important for British culture.

26:57 I guess some shipment got picked up or something. Bad news. It's just the spike prices. Well, it could be because of the... it's time to jack up the prices. Something we didn't discuss. The Dutch female field hockey team won the world championship. As you know, I'm a big fan of the sport. Yeah, well, you just like to have shorts. Well, you should just Google Dutch female field hockey team. No, they are super hot. I'd rather watch the Brazilian volleyball team. But anyway, go on. And otherwise, I've just become completely obsessed. With what? The Kagan's. Oh, the Kagan's. The Kagan's and... Do we have a jingle for them? Yeah, no, we have a whole bunch of jingles for them. We've got, we have the, well, my, I have to, I like the shout, but this is also...

27:59 Brought to you by Clan Kagan. So we have that. Kagan! And then just the Kagan's. What happened is, and you kind of turned me on to her, so it is partially your fault. You turned me on to Kim Kagan. Screw Kim Kardashian, Kim Kagan is the way to go. And she was on that C-SPAN call-in show. Oh, I missed it! I've been watching nothing but C-SPAN. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, No one from our show called in. I didn't catch it live. I saw the repeat on C-Standard. Because you would have called in. Oh, yeah. There were some good call-ins. Nothing that I clipped for the show, but there were some people just saying, oh look, hey, it's the same people who brought us into Iraq the past time are doing it again. But of course the questions all get circumvented. It's not really a good show. But right from the get-go,

28:55 She had me. Now her cadence, the way she talks... Oh yeah, it's odd. And she's pretty to look at. She's very pretty. She has this kind of... Now this is C-Span, so it's not like you're getting hair and makeup. Right. But she had, you know, her hair was kind of, you know, very dark, curly, a little oily, but, you know, long, and she had... you know, she's very pretty. But... Awkwardly pretty. Awkwardly, thank you, that's the word. Awkwardly pretty, but she talks like she's an MKUltra patient. Totally! Oh my god. I know. So just listen to the cadence. And this is after the introduction, which I just cut off, and she's being introduced, and this is the first minute out of her mouth where she's like, I'm going to now explain the whole thing in one minute. She's been drilled as to what to say.

29:48 The president has to take military action in some way, shape or form right now in this changing situation. In point of fact, airstrikes are obviously being discussed and are on the table, the theory being to bomb some of the positions held by ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham, the extremist group. Now very interesting, she continuously refers to ISIS as the... Let me just see what she... let me get the exact wording. Hold on. This is important.

30:30 bomb some of the positions held by ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. The Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. And she's very consistent about this. Yeah, she insists on using the accurate wordage. Yes. And this is very important and it's glossed over and I have not seen anyone in the media properly address this. I think we're the only ones who keep saying, what is it? ISIS or ISIL. Right. And some people... In fact, a lot of people say both. They say ISIL or whatever you want to call it. Well, worse, Associated Press has released their style guide and they say it's ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Right, which is bullcrap. It is bullcrap. Now, ISIL would be a little more correct because it's the Islamic State in the Levant.

31:22 Right and Levant if you google Levant you will see that the Levant is really the whole region that includes Syria, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Southern Turkey, and I did some research again. Heaven forbid we bring that up. Yeah, well that would be the reason and Al-Sham is the proper word for the Levant and So it means the same thing. And I believe she is correct. No, she is correct. She's the only one. I would say right now she is the go-to girl. We want to get what's going on from her. This crazy woman is the one. So what I liked about my research into the Levant or Alsham is it takes us back to something you brought into the group many years ago with the film Paris 1919.

32:17 When was it? 1912? I think it was 1919. It was after World War I. And it's a documentary type film about the divvying up of the Middle East. Right. By the Brits, basically. Well, it is the Sykes-Picot Agreement. This is what drew these lines. So it was the the Brits, Sykes and the Frenchman Pico and after the after the First World War they they essentially divided everything up and they drew these lines. And so Britain, you know, they got essentially they got Israel and they created that and then the French they got Southern Turkey and they got

33:04 Iraq and the... I thought the Brits got Iraq. I'm looking right now. No, I don't think the Brits got it. I think that the Brits had part of Syria. Oh, here it is. Well, anyway, the Russians, they got Istanbul. It was essentially just drawing lines. So there is definitely a geopolitical strife happening that is meant, and if you google the Sykes-Picot and you go back in the news reports back to even a year and a half ago, you'll see that this is in play. And the idea of removing these fictional borders, I was talking with Nikki about it this morning, and it's kind of like, you know, imagine you have

33:53 a country called Iraq and it consists of the Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany. You know, it's like three very different cultures, three similar yet very different dialects and languages. Oh, and add to it this religion thing. And this is the thing that slays me the most, is that the people of the world actually believe that this is all about religion. Yeah, well and so does Harry Reid by the way. Actually all of our Congress does. Oh yeah, well and you know... We're all in on this. And to me is if you're fighting about religion everybody deserves to die. What the hell kind of religion is it then?

34:34 It's stupid. I mean, the whole idea is insane that that's what you're fighting about. No. This is about oil, plain and simple. And we'll get to that. Let's continue with Kim's explanation. And you're right. She and she, of course, founded the Institute for the Study of War, which they have RSS feeds. I've been following that. And every day they have an update with a map. And God, I love what she's doing. Dreamist group that has taken over the city of Mosul and is moving southward. But Eric Strykes, along with I want to, this cadence that she has, you can back it up. This cadence that she has, and I want you to look this woman up to take a look at what she looks like. This sounds exactly like this woman, Pastor Melissa Scott. Is she the one with the crazy long hair with the blackboard? Yeah. I've seen her, yes!

35:22 It sounds just... this is Scott's wife. He married a younger woman, which is this woman, who's a... I guess she knows 30 languages or something and she has this exact same weird way of talking. This kind of stilted, hard to explain, kind of stiff... Yes. Precise. She's a televangelist, right? Yeah, she's a televangelist. Yeah, she has this whiteboard and she's walking up and dr... and I... she's fascinating to watch. I don't think I would know where to see her other than on the internets, but I used to like bump into her. She's on TV. Yeah, no, I'd bump into it sometimes, but I don't surf around anymore. But anyway, that's who this... Yes. Who is Jean Scott?

36:05 Gene Scott was this great televangelist who would stay on the air 24-7 begging for money and pretty much doing nothing else. And he was a fascinating... He wasn't an evangelist. He's dead, I think he's dead, isn't he? No, he died years ago. My god, this Melissa Scott is a smoking hot... Yeah, she's gorgeous. And Gene Scott used to... They have these crazy theories and he was an offbeat theologian. I think he got a degree in religious studies. Let me tell you, this is the kind of women crackpots attract.

36:40 Nice. All right. Yeah, very much like Kagan. Good call. It's a group that has taken over the city of Mosul and is moving southward. But airstrikes alone do not actually help with the core problem, which is shoring up the Iraqi security forces, which have received a terrible blow to their confidence. and which need assistance commanding and controlling their movements from where they are to where they need to be and maneuvering on the ground. In short, the United States really ought to send advisors to help

37:25 you know, in small groups with the Iraqi security forces. And also to make airstrikes effective because we need good ground intelligence to make sure that airstrikes do not kill civilians. And there is a huge mobilization of the Sunni population alongside of ISIS right now. And the potential for killing civilians is actually really high. So here she's pitching the idea of advisors. We'll come back to that in a moment. Let's just go through a couple things about how big the problem really is. Now, there's a number of players on the field here and the ones that are most quiet at the moment are the Kurds.

38:08 who now have the Kyrgyzstan oil fields, the refinery, and they've got the pipeline going right up into Turkey. So they're quiet and they're doing their thing. And then we have, of course, the Malaki government, and this guy is now in military fatigue. Yeah, he's walking around in a military uniform. What a gay hole that guy is. And so apparently, you know, the Iranians might be helping him and then we have this group led by the Al-Baghdadi. This is fantastic. Which is a fictional character. Al-Baghdadi. It basically means the dude from Baghdad. Like I could be Al-Austini or Al-Bundi for all I care. Al-Baghdini the Bundi.

38:58 And even the, just last week, what's his name, Brigadier General Kevin Bergner in a news conference said, this guy doesn't exist. There is no real leader. Of course not, because this is obviously funded by the Arabian states that are friendly to the United States. Because the whole idea here is, as you pointed out, is to rubbleize, is to turn this into a huge mess and have all Iraqi oil pumped circumventing anything Russia does because remember Syria also used to be a Russian issue. We were talking we talked about Syria, we talked about Russia and Iran and then with only Syria would only be Russia and then we cut Russia off in Ukraine and now we're cutting them off down below. I want to stop you there with the al-Baghdadi being a totally fictitious character. It's possible that he is but the other possibility is he's actually a trainee. Well he's a brand.

39:53 Well, he may be, but he came from us. He's one of our boys. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want you to play this clip, which I didn't know at all. OK. And this is the this was the hearing that took place this week on the there's a bunch of hearings on the the trade of the five Taliban for the one deserter. And everybody's up in arms about it. And this little tidbit came up. This is the one soldier, five Taliban clip. This little tidbit came out that I didn't know. Hold on a second. Was the transfer of one American soldier for five Taliban a wise decision in your opinion?

40:30 Congressman, you know, I think we should look at this policy as a whole and learn from it. Right now, a gentleman by the name of Mullah Abdul Zakir is the head of the Taliban military committee that we released previously from Guantanamo. And we're paying that price now. And further, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS that's terrorizing Syria and Iraq right now was also detained in in Camp Bucca and we need to learn lessons from these from these releases that we're paying for later. So in your opinion, it's probably not a wise policy to implement. Okay, right. So this guy came out of that one camp, which is very suspect to me. In Jordan. I think we trained all these guys. We trained these guys in Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, they're trained somewhere. And that's the reports I have.

41:21 They were trained... Look, this whole thing, it's fantastic. So ISIS, and we'll call it ISIS Islamic State in Shaham, just to be correct, they've got a Twitter app. Yeah. Well, there's Iraqis... Which I couldn't find by the way. I couldn't find it. They shut down the internet. Well, it's probably because they shut down the internet. No, but... Well, there's lots of news stories, but no one actually has a link. And I tried to... so apparently only on Android. So I'm trying to find there the ISIS Twitter app. But they also, they have a really nice annual report which they released. Did you see their annual report? No, you got me on that one. Oh yeah, no, it's a whole PDF. Now the cool thing is,

42:03 The original is hard to find and of course is in Arabic, but the Institute for the Study of War, obviously they have a shortened version in English, complete, and they've done not just a translation, no, they've done a whole beautiful layout. I'm sure they did the original as well, is what I'm getting at. And it shows, you know, well it's interesting, I'll bring it up right now. It shows how many suicide vests they've exploded with graphs and bar graphs and charts. Let me show you what they've got. The ISIS annual reports reveal metrics driven military command. I haven't seen this for American military command. Annual report organization.

42:51 Okay, they have the attack types. Assassination, armed attack, bombing, bombing and burning houses, prisoners freed, suicide vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices, suicide vests, motorcycle-borne improvised explosive devices, knife attacks, targeted attacks, sniping, apostates repented, cities taken over, checkpoints set up, and they've got bar graphs for every single one of these metrics, operations by province, percentage of attacks. It's fascinating to watch, but beautifully recreated by Kim Kagan's group there. And Kim Kagan's group, I need to point out, this is the group that also produced us with, produced Elizabeth Obagi, or Obagi, remember her? No. This was the girl who, and she was perfect. She was the one, she was the go-to girl for Syria.

43:52 And she was... in fact it was John Kerry and John McCain who would be quoting her research, and then it turned out that she didn't have a PhD and she had to go away. Do you remember this story? Yeah, I remember that vaguely. She was from the Institute for the Study of War. Uh-huh. So she was... and the problem was she was advising military politicians and industry Simultaneously. Some would say a conflict of interest. Some might say it somewhere.

44:28 Okay, here's a Kim regarding the really the the scale of this and that it's much bigger than just Syria and Iraq are doing this to provoke sectarian violence And we and the lie that it's for sectarian violence. Okay, I have to remember that Isis Actually wants to provoke sectarian violence It is trying to create a sectarian war throughout the Middle East with violence that goes from south of Baghdad the way through Syria into Lebanon and into neighboring states. And this civil war will make what we saw in Iraq in 2006-7 pale in comparison. It's gonna be a bonanza! It's gonna be a big one, baby! All the way down to Jordan. The rivers of Jordan are deep and wide.

45:13 It's been hinted at that Jordan would get sucked into this early on. Fair warning. Fair warning. If you're paying attention, you'd know that this is going to happen. Now, Biden said a number of years ago, man, we should split this place up anyway. Which, of course, is the mission. Is to create a new state, have the Kurds have their thing with the oil, which all of this is really about at the end of the day. Right, I think the Kurds are the key to this. That's why they're not getting mentioned much. And here is the C-SPAN guy. There are guys, by the way.

45:50 The Kurds, yeah. Yeah. And here is the C-SPAN guy bring this, this, uh, Bio Biden thing up. This is a comment from David who says, Vice President Biden might've been right when he said that Iraq may need to be carved up. This may happen regardless of what any president does. He made that comment back in 2008. I think that Iraq has tended to want to be a unified state and we saw that even in the 2010 Iraqi parliamentary election. I think, however, after this particular inflection, we may see the separation of Iraq rather unnaturally into component parts now that the Kurds

46:33 Unnaturally, good word. Through their Peshmerga forces have control over Kirkuk, a prize that they have sought through constitutional means for a decade. And now that we have a Shia mobilization that will secure southern Iraq in a way that's very different from how western Iraq may or may not be secured. This is an unnatural state and it will have consequences through the region in taking away the boundaries and borders of the states that have formed the core of the alliance system that we have worked with for so many years. And this is actually what the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham wants. It wants to erase the borders in the Middle East so that it can create its own emirate.

47:24 Perhaps on the road to a caliphate that spans through Islamic countries. It's always great to throw in the C word You just got if you throw in the caliphate word people just shiver Caliphate. All right. I'm narrowing this down to the to the big crescendo, but first we have to recognize that of course the Kagan's Specifically, Robert Kagan were Bush cronies. This is all William Crystal, these are the neocons, the Project for a New American Century, but they've now spread over to the other side through Victoria Kagan, nay, Nudelman, nay, Newman, whose husband Frederick is brother of Robert, brother of Kim.

48:08 And there's a great article, by the way, about the...what's his name? Frederick. Yeah, Frederick interviewed at his library home in Virginia because he's a historian. Bunch of a-holes these people are. So of course the obvious question is, well, wait a minute. Isn't this Bush? Didn't Bush do all this? Isn't it a Bush mistake? Didn't Bush screw it all up for us? Now whenever someone asks you a question that you don't want to answer, what is a good go-to way to circumvent that? You've taught us this, John. I don't know. What did I say? You're asking the wrong question is what you need to say. Oh yeah, you start with, you're asking the wrong question. The right question is blah blah blah. Now that you mention the blaming, you know, the blaming Bush, blaming Obama thing, it seems to be the model that's going on here. And I want to play something from the Senate floor.

49:02 which is Harry Reid on what he's claiming is a civil war and why we shouldn't be in there. And he kind of addresses a few of these things that you're talking about. And these guys in the Senate are just superficial about this. And it's actually fun to listen to them yak about this. And this is just as part of a longer speech. That servicemen and women from Kentucky and other 49 states across this great country should be inserted in the middle of their civil war. I don't think so. Fighting between sectarian factions in Iraq cost thousands of Iraqi and American lives over the last decade. And it spawned a new breed of terrorism now. Yet the original architects of the war, of the invasion of Iraq, would have us believe that this is all President Obama's fault. Mr. President, think about that. Is there any- Wait, I had to think about that. Okay, I'm ready. Anything that could be further from the truth, I don't think so.

50:05 This is an Iraqi civil war and it's time for Iraqis to resolve it themselves Those who attacked the president Obama for bringing our troops home from Iraq are wrong and out of step with the American people After a decade of war American people have had enough American families have had enough Yeah, but you know who's not had enough? No, no, they're just getting started everybody All right, so here's Kim answering the question with a denial of the question. Of course, it's the wrong question to ask. Rick makes this point on our Twitter page. No WMD, weapons of mass destruction, no yellow cake, no aluminum tubes. Why did Bush elect to invade Iraq?

50:50 Again, I really think that we're asking the wrong question if we go back and focus on the decisions and actions in 2002. I think it's even better to say we're asking the wrong question. You involve yourself, you see. We're asking the wrong question. Yeah, you might as well. 2003. Again, I will emphasize that what decision makers thought at the time was that Saddam Hussein had a chemical weapons program, and we have discovered that that's not true. that he was engaged in concealing the fact that he did not have one. But you mistake the issue if you go back to try to re-litigate the situation. We're in an emergency crisis now. And that emergency crisis... I love the emergency crisis. This is a great term. Not just a crisis, an emergency. It's an emergency crisis. ...is that an al-Qaeda splinter is... Ow! Ow!

51:47 I have an al-Qaeda splinter in my finger. It's taking control of terrain in the heart of the Middle East from which it will launch terrorist attacks and establish a state. It has an organized army. So the question is not re-litigating what happened in Iraq before. The question is... No, don't re-litigate. That's not the question. The question is what do we do about the fact that there is a large al-Qaeda Al Qaeda has a terrorist safe haven right now in Iraq and Syria that can stop A couple of things. I want to add, it seems a lot of, this is, I'm actually disappointed that she went this way. Well, wait until I'm done with her. I mean, the big finish is coming. Okay, well why don't you finish that because I have to play another couple of Senate clips. Yeah, I just want, I do want to finish off with her. Yeah, let me finish off with Kim. Let me finish off with Kim. Okay, finish her off. In fact, I'll stop this clip and I'll finish her off with, now this rarely happens.

52:52 Only on C-SPAN, I have to say. Again, quite impressed with the C-SPANs. Where is my thing here? Okay. The question is, what is the Institute for the Study of War, and who is funding you? I think this is a very good question. What is the Institute for the Study of War and who funds your organization? The Institute for the Study of War is an organization that does not advocate war. We study it. Now when someone... he didn't say, hey you advocate war what are you all about? He said, what are you about?

53:33 And she immediately goes on the defensive by saying, we do not advocate war. No one said you did, but maybe you're a little too defensive. And we study ongoing conflicts in order to provide policymakers and decision makers with the best possible information about what's going on in war zones, including Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon. Lebanon to help them by giving them the best possible information to make their own wait, okay wait decisions about matters of war and peace the organization is funded through private

54:17 donors, foundations, corporations, and I think most importantly does not take any money from the United States government in order to keep itself fully independent from the United States government. Let's go to the documentation! Of course I was more than happy to pull their form 990 for 2012 which is cleverly obfuscates any contribution from anybody. It's not required by law. They do a little under two million dollars. All of it goes into salaries and conferences and travel. That would sound right. The only person who is on the payroll is Kim.

55:00 But of course not much 150 grand very very meager. I thought yeah, well she's got other means of income I'm sure but of course on there always prime you cannot take money from Individuals and corporations without thanking them You have to hunt around their website is not very easy to navigate to find that but in their 2012 annual report they thanked the following for their award, for their sponsorship of the Institute for the Study of War. Are you ready for the list? This is good. General Dynamics. Okay. War. DynCorp International. War. Palantir. Huh. Those are the, those, yeah, those are the guys who do spying. Northrop Grumman. War. And my favorite, CACI.

55:59 Now CACI should ring a bell, if not because I just rang a bell. These are the guys, these are advisors, you see. This is what she's talking about, the advisors that need to be sent in. They were the ones that were blamed for the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, if you recall. CACI awarded, look at it, awarded 31 million, and they only load And it's a 31 million prime contract to continue modernizing the US Navy personnel and pay systems. It's a good computer operation. Now, CACI here... Ever vigilant. CACI were running the Abu Ghraib prison and there was a big lawsuit.

56:51 And the judge dismissed the lawsuit alleging that CACI employees directed mistreatment of detainees. But he did not dismiss it because they were not guilty. He dismissed it because the judge I mean, the judge did not explicitly rule on CACI's role in the alleged abuse, instead deciding that because the incidents happened overseas, the US District Court in Alexandria has no jurisdiction to hear the case. These were the people who... these are the bad guys. These are the horrible a-holes who directed electrocution of detainees nuts.

57:29 These are a-holes and she is all in her job and here's the pitch I have it right here is to get these people in right away What I think is really incredibly important right now is to understand that we're not not talking right now about we we invading iraq no and we are not talking right now about sending boots on the ground what are we talking about here's the one that becomes a pitch combat forces in large numbers no iraq there is an iraqi security force there it needs to be bolstered

58:05 Bolster John that's the word we need to bolster the Iraqi security forces with and it needs to be bolstered through Advisors who can help overcome the flaws that we have advisors from you know companies like Frankly over the emerge over the past year that the Iraqi security forces have low morale that they have not replenished their units with new soldiers as they have sustained losses against al-qaeda splinters and other enemies. Can I just point out that we've spent according to the defense department 20 billion dollars to train these Iraqi forces. This by the way that's where that number comes from the 20-25 billion

58:50 Everyone's talking about, oh we spent 25 billion. It's not on the whole war in Iraq. It's just on training the forces. No, actually Harry Reid in his little long speech brought the number up. It's 1.2 trillion. Right. That's the overall number. Right. the number that we question, whoa, we spent 25 billion in Iraq. Yeah, you're right. This is a propagandistic technique to make people stick with that number. So it's in your brain, oh well, I guess we could afford it. 1.2 trillion. And I think that's a low ball. I think that's a low ball too. So, but anyway, the 20, he now says 20, but I've heard 25 billion was only for the training of these guys, which I with my own two eyes saw was a scam.

59:36 That is absolutely correct. That is absolutely correct. I need to say these long drawn out sentences. Well, I think of what I'm going to say next. And I think that part of the problem that we have had over the past two years is that we have thrown money at training the Iraqi forces. We need to throw money at my people. Sustaining some of the programs that were effective at keeping the Iraqi security forces effective. We have sold weapons, we have sold weapons systems, but we

1:00:11 We removed our embedded advisors. Embedded advisors? From the Iraqi security force. We got to bring them back. So what do you think, so I'm looking at the, I'm looking at CACI, it's a stock, sells for 71 bucks a share, probably, it's a huge upswing if you'd invested in this company in 1990 and made a lot of money. Yeah, when it all started. Now what do you think their sales, annual sales are in revenue? CACI? Yeah, just guess. Well, they have 16,000 employees, so I'm going to guess each employee has to be bringing in at least, I'm going to say 16 billion in sales. No, no, only 3.5. Okay.

1:00:51 I'm too optimistic. Military .5 billion in sales as consultants. As consultants, advisors. Advisors. And I'd like to point out this little undiscussed or non-discussed item from May 14th, 2014, when the United States military industrial complex In fact, the Pentagon Defense Security Cooperation Agency, that's the guys who sell on behalf of the military industrial complex in the Pentagon, informed Congress of a planned sale of $1 billion worth of warplanes, armored vehicles, and surveillance aerostats to Iraq.

1:01:31 Quote from the from the document the vehicles will help Iraq's ability to defend its oil infrastructure against terrorist attacks We could have seen this coming in May who could have We sold them we sold them the stuff. We sold it right into it What a scam Hey, we got us quick quick quick guys quick. Let's sell some stuff. They're gonna need it so that is Kimberly Now she's not the end of the Kagan's, but I'd like now to... Well, I want to point something out here that we haven't pointed out, which is the obvious. This woman dropped in out of the blue on a parachute. Yeah, well, and she's perfect because she's pretty, she has a good rep, she has a bit of a pleading thing, and by the way, there's also this Anne Marie slaughter, and I heard, I could not find it on NPR, I heard her on NPR

1:02:26 She is the CEO of... now this is a real Silicon Valley group. She is the CEO of... what is this thing called? The New American Foundation, I think? She literally wrote the New World Order book. She wrote a book called The New World Order. And this New American Foundation, you know, top sponsors with a million plus, Eric Schmidt and his wife, Millon Belinda Gates, You know, it's the to- and she goes on and she's like, that's why I'm pissed I couldn't find it. Every question she'd answer, instead of this pleading like, well people are dying, she'd go, ha ha ha, people are dying, ha ha ha.

1:03:11 Don't you see people are dying? She had this little irritating laugh like one of those people that laughs at the end of every sentence no before she laughs at the beginning before like what a stupid question Don't you see people are dying and we have to do something about it? Ha ha ha ha I'll find it for Sunday because they just didn't post it. I guess please yeah So it's this these are the salespeople to be dropped in to sell the idea of Because the President Obama is ineffective at this point and he's not running this show. And these are all Yalies, every single one of them. Yeah, he's a Harvard guy. He's out! If he even went to Harvard. Harvard losers! Yeah, loser. Yeah, these are all Yale people. Even Clinton's a Yalie, isn't she?

1:03:57 No, I think she was Yale Law School. Right. Let me look it up while you're talking. How can that be? I'm looking it up while you're talking. No, no, no. You're looking it up. Oh yeah, okay. Yale Law School. There you go. Yeah, she's Yale. Yeah, Yale-y. Yeah, Bill's the Harvard guy. So these are all Yale-y's. And the idea is robalization. I'll give you a rundown and then I'd love to hear some of your clips. So we have ISIS has taken over the Baiji refinery. Of course we had the Brotherhood pipeline. I'm sorry. That's Ukraine. I'm confused wrong pipeline. I got a whole pipeline thing here We're blowing them up everywhere. We just blowing up pipelines wherever you want pipelines, but funny We're not blowing up the refinery. No. Why would we do that that would make no sense? They did shut it down, but it stills this is a sitting duck Yeah, so this is our sitting ducks you can you hit one of those things with a few rocket launchers? And yeah, but that thing is done. That's the prize. We're not going to blow that up. No

1:04:55 No, that's gonna happen. And so now of course there's a lot of players in the game and you know blowing up the pipeline, the northern route pipeline, which only takes a couple days to repair, that's very good because that will remind us here in America that it does affect us. When the pipeline goes, and Iraq of course is arguably the largest producer of oil used by the West, that it affects our prices. So you watch the gasoline prices go up. Actually, the largest producer of oil used by the West is Canada. Russia. The largest producer of oil used by us is Canada. Right. They are the largest. Iraq has the largest reserves. They're big. Yeah. Look, that's why there's this war going on. What do you think this is all about? I'm a disco jockey. What the hell do I know? It's huge. Here's a... Let me play this. So back on the scene.

1:03:57 No, I think she was Yale Law School. Right. Let me look it up while you're talking. How can that be? I'm looking it up while you're talking. No, no, no. You're looking it up. Oh yeah, okay. Yale Law School. There you go. Yeah, she's Yale. Yeah, Yale-y. Yeah, Bill's the Harvard guy. So these are all Yale-y's. And the idea is robalization. I'll give you a rundown and then I'd love to hear some of your clips. So we have ISIS has taken over the Baiji refinery. Of course we had the Brotherhood pipeline. I'm sorry. That's Ukraine. I'm confused wrong pipeline. I got a whole pipeline thing here We're blowing them up everywhere. We just blowing up pipelines wherever you want pipelines, but funny We're not blowing up the refinery. No. Why would we do that that would make no sense? They did shut it down, but it stills this is a sitting duck Yeah, so this is our sitting ducks you can you hit one of those things with a few rocket launchers? And yeah, but that thing is done. That's the prize. We're not going to blow that up. No

1:04:55 No, that's gonna happen. And so now of course there's a lot of players in the game and you know blowing up the pipeline, the northern route pipeline, which only takes a couple days to repair, that's very good because that will remind us here in America that it does affect us. When the pipeline goes, and Iraq of course is arguably the largest producer of oil used by the West, that it affects our prices. So you watch the gasoline prices go up. Actually, the largest producer of oil used by the West is Canada. Russia. The largest producer of oil used by us is Canada. Right. They are the largest. Iraq has the largest reserves. They're big. Yeah. Look, that's why there's this war going on. What do you think this is all about? I'm a disco jockey. What the hell do I know? It's huge. Here's a... Let me play this. So back on the scene.

1:05:54 And now doing his own show without McCain is Lindsey Graham. Lindsey, if you see Lindsey Graham, tell him, hey Lindsey, Adam Curry says you're an asshole. You're, and give him my email address. This guy, I thought John McCain was bad? Well, it's a, I think it's a toss-up. No, I think Lindsey Graham, so he's... You think he's worse than McCain? Yes, he is, so he's interviewing Dempsey, who of course is our little gnome guy who is... And Dempsey they're out to get. Well, but yeah, but Dempsey is all in on this. Well, I think Dempsey's knuckling under, but McCain has been out to get Dempsey now for months. Right, but this is Graham and Dempsey. So Graham and McCain have split. And Graham is all in. I don't believe that's not true. Well, let's listen to this where we have Dempsey and Hagel. And Hagel, of course, he's just a yes man.

1:06:51 He wouldn't know what an about face meant. And now they're just talking ISIS, ISIL, it's not ISIS, it's not ISIL, it's OIL is what it is people. Now to Iraq, is it possible General Dempsey to stop ISIS without US air power? IS-ISIL, ISIS, Da'ash, whatever we call them. Da'ash? Da'ash? This is new to me. Da'ash? Da'ash, gosh, ba gosh. Are the people that Al-Qaeda kicked out.

1:07:29 or who broke contact because they're more radical than I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, these people. Great. Yeah, oh yeah. I suspect, well first of all we have a request from the Iraqi government for air power. You do? We do. Air power. And do you think it's in our national security interest to honor that request? It is in our national security interest to counter ISIL wherever we find them. Wherever we find them. Oh, under the bed! But cause, and I want the American people to understand, There's a lot at stake for us, right, Secretary Hagel? Okay. Leading the witness. Leading the witness. Yes, man. Hey, let's get the yes man to say yes.

1:08:11 There's a lot at stake for us, the region, consequences. And for the large, if Iraq falls and Iran dominates the south and this group, ISIS, owns the Sunni territory all the way from Aleppo to Baghdad, Kurdistan breaks away, that would create economic chaos in the region which would affect us here at home. Is that a fair point? outcome. Leading the witness. Well, I don't know what an outcome would be if that occurred. Senator, all I can tell you is what we are looking at providing to the president. The economy of Iraq would collapse.

1:08:48 Well, I think that's right. If they lose their oil... He's an economist now. Don't question it. Yes. Yeah, that's right. And if ISIS has assets from Iraq, from Aleppo to Baghdad, they're enriched. The country we know as Iraq financially collapses. Don't you think that would affect the region and energy prices? From the average American point of view, Iraq matters. Well, it does. We got to make you know, Iraq matters, people. But also, you know, You've been there many times, Senator. The southern part of Iraq possesses a tremendous amount of oil. So different scenarios that you're- So if Iranians dominate the southern part of Iraq because the central government collapses and there are no force in Baghdad, the Iranians enriched, and I think the world as a whole suffers particularly, we'll get hit in the wallet. But ISIS, General Dempsey, they- How does that work? We'll get hit in the wallet. How does that work? How's the logic here? I don't get it. Shut up.

1:09:43 Just say yes. Vowed to attack the United States, is that fair to say? Oh, oh, oh, whoa, back it up. About, we're about to be attacked, John. Hold on a second. General Dempsey, they have vowed to attack the United States, is that fair to say? Vowed. Oh, vowed. There is open source reporting that they- Open search reporting? What? Did he say open source? What is open, is that Twitter? Yeah. Is that fair to say? There is open source reporting that... I've never heard of open source reporting. We're using it. I love it. Open source reporting. Twitter! They, although currently a regional threat, they do have aspirations to attack Western interests. And if they have a safe haven in Syria and Iraq and operate from Aleppo to Baghdad with impunity, that's a bad scenario for us. Is that true? That is a high-risk scenario. Yeah, to our homeland being attacked by this group. Over time, not at this time, but over time. Ah, wait a minute, over time. Not at this time, but over time.

1:10:42 Not exactly what Lindsay said on Meet the Press Sunday. Syria is a launching pad and it's all come together. It's a launching pad. They're gonna be terrorists like, you know, they strap rockets to their back and they launch right into America. We need air power immediately to stop the advance toward Baghdad. Stop it! If the central government in Iraq collapses, and that's the goal of ISIS, Iran will own the southern part of Iraq. That's where the Shias live. They can operate ISIS from Baghdad to Kurdistan all the way into Syria. They will eventually march on Jordan and Lebanon. Our best ally in the region is the King of Jordan. And they will attack us from that part of Iraq and Syria, according to our national director of national intelligence, FBI director. The next 9-11 is coming from here.

1:11:29 Yeah, bitch is the next 9-11 it might be on 314, but it will be the next 9-11 It's coming from there, but I don't understand Because these are these are our terrorists and now this douchebag Cameron is saying that they're gonna attack them the prime minister chaired a meeting of the National Security Council in response to the crisis in Iraq before speaking in the Commons But I'd also disagree with those people who think this is nothing to do with us And if they want to have some sort of extreme Islamist regime in the middle of Iraq that won't affect us, it will. The people in that regime, as well as trying to take territory, are also planning to attack us here at home in the United Kingdom. No! They're attacking us? They can't attack you! Everyone's taking credit for the attack!

1:12:19 Here's what bothers me first. Let's play the McCain clip that I have which shows that he's still in I believe what you're what you're observing that you think there's this rift between McCain and Lindsey Graham is not the case I just think that they're sick of McCain because he is worse that he's a tub thumper And I think the media is tired of him so he gets to go up in front of Congress He gave a long speech. I just took a clip of it and say stuff like this the Obama administration blames Iraqis for for failing to grant the necessary privileges and immunities for a U.S. force presence beyond 2011. This too is totally misleading because as we saw firsthand, Senator Graham and I traveled to Baghdad, to Erbil, and we met with Maliki, we met with Allawi, we met with Barzani. We met with all of the leaders of the main political blocs and we heard a common message during all of these conversations.

1:13:15 Iraqi leaders recognized that it was in their country's interest to maintain a limited number of U.S. troops to continue training and assisting Iraqi security forces beyond 2011. But when we asked Ambassador Jim Jeffery and the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, Lloyd Austin, in direct response to a question in a meeting with then Prime Minister Maliki, he said, okay, I want to know how many troops and what their missions are. We turned to General Austin. The answer was that they still not made a decision. In Erbil,

1:13:56 Barzani said he would fly to Baghdad. Allawi, the actual winner of the election, said that he would agree. I'll go in with you on that. Everyone, including the media, are just sick of him. And I think he overdid his exposure before all this. You could always call McCain for anything. Yeah. And he's boring. He's annoying. He's boring. And he goes on and on and on. Now here's the disappointment, we'll go back and discuss more of the details of what we think is going on here, which I think you've already outlined mostly, which is a scam. This is the big disappointment in my opinion, which is that Marco Rubio, who purports to be a candidate for the presidency, although there's no way he's ever gonna get elected, is one of the guys who got into office by being a Tea Party guy

1:14:55 I was kind of espousing the thoughts of the Ron Paul camp in these conservative meetings, which is, get out of these wars, stop doing this, stop doing that, legalize drugs. I mean, the libertarian philosophy. Let me guess, did the check show up from Halliburton? Well, you listen to the clip and you tell me. And that is why it's so critical that we be engaged here. The reason why we should care about this issue is not because we want to force upon Iraq democracy or force upon Iraq the kind of government we think they need. The reason why we care is because we cannot allow a safe haven to develop there that can be used to carry out attacks that can kill Americans, including here in our homeland. This is why we should care. And this is why it is so important that the Commander-in-Chief of the United States, the President,

1:15:49 Come as quickly as possible before the American people and before this Congress where they plan to address this risk Well, he doesn't need to do that now now I have the Rubio. That's the short clip play the longer clip which is weirder and We again hear this thing at the same thing. We're hearing from these other nutcases. Let's go. Let's send them in Let's go spend some money guys are gonna bomb us here at home these guys. Yeah, whoo-hoo Whoo these and look they got stinger missiles. I don't think they can fly all the way over Well the stinger missiles and a lot of people don't you know most of these missiles that we supplied are we sold we sold yes We sold they're they have beacon Awareness and so when an American plane is flying and they fly away from it They won't the missile won't won't do it plane ever no of course, and you can't fix that that's that's a hardware piece of

1:16:41 It's in the EEPROM. We've burned it in. Now the EEPROM. And so... Wait, wait, wait. Does ISIS have box cutters? I don't know that these missiles... missiles, besides just missing the plane. I don't know for a fact, and I think I would program this way, if it was fired at an American target, the missile should turn around and blow up the guy firing it. Like a boomerang. Yeah, I don't see any reason you can't do that. That's what I'd do. Play Rubio's longer... well, no, actually don't play it. I'll just say what he went on and on about, oh, we're going to be under attack. Now, here's the here's the kind of the irony to the whole thing. It's only a minute. I'm happy to listen to it. Well, play it and you'll hear more of his panic.

1:17:23 They have done good. We need to understand how afraid we have to be. ...grown in strength over this time and they have begun to grow in their influence in Iraq and their goal is simple. They want to establish the premier Islamic caliphate in all the world. Caliphate! The premier... We need a new jingle. Caliphate! You just yell that anywhere people go, oh no man, it's a caliphate. People don't even know what it means. Sunni Islamic caliphate in the region. Caliphate basically means Islamic kingdom. And they don't care about existing borders. The kingdom they envision is a vast safe house, safe haven that encompasses portions of Syria that they already have under their control and portions of Iraq that they're now gaining control of. And what is their goal for this place that they're trying to set up? Their first goal is to institute Sharia law and they have a particularly brutal brand of Sharia that they have forced upon people both in Syria and now increasingly in Iraq.

1:18:21 But their second goal is to establish an Islamic Caliphate state. A safe haven from where they can plan and train and ultimately carry out terrorist attacks against the United States and other countries. Including attacks here in our homeland. Okay, let me say this. There were hundreds of guys at HamCom, where I was, who would listen to this and go, yeah! Yeah, let's go get him, fuckers! And I think he's, unfortunately, when he pulls out caliphate, sharia law, and then attack on the homeland, I think he actually does get a large portion of his audience riled up.

1:19:08 whether he's initially part of the Ron Paul substitution movement or not, these people have been programmed that way. They live here in the United States and there's a lot of them. Now I think that, just to finish my thought, all we need to do, what the president needs to do, and this is what it's... I don't understand. We are not that stupid. All you have to do is say, we have a solution. We're going to send in the triple canopy, the Academy Blackwater Z guys, what was the name? The Castilian group, CACI, and here's the bill. And they've already, they've given us an estimate and we agreed, you know, estimate plus 20%. And that's what it's going to be. And they're going to go take care of our business for us. The American public is so

1:20:02 Tired of war but also so insanely programmed we would go get good idea. Yeah, you know what? Can you get some free mugs with that? Yeah, we're all in I see I'm mugged and then and it would be done with but no we have to scare everybody and Trick them into being afraid and they end up doing the same thing sending these guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's well, here's the here to me is the anomaly which no one wants to bring up or ever brings up. I The entire concept of the modern terrorist movement is that's an asymmetrical warfare, which means there are non-nation states, terrorist groups that do not have a place to hide that are causing these problems. Once you establish a nation state that can't be bombed into submission, it's no longer viable as a terrorist organization. Excellent point, Mr. Dvorak. I think that we should now revise my strategy

1:20:57 Let's sit back, wait until they're nation-state, then we go bomb them to kingdom come. Yeah, you know where they are. They're they got a flag. They got a flag. We can declare war on them. Yeah, they got a little Parliament Judges yeah, we can go declare war exactly Yeah, well now we have somebody to declare war and we never have before because there's nobody can surrender now We have people that can even surrender. Yeah, so what's the problem? Well, then we can't use words like al-qaeda splinter anymore. It's so fun to say So the president of course, he's doing his little bit there and he's calling on his war powers and powerful. I have war powers. We can tell you that in just the last few minutes, the White House has released a letter that the president has sent to the speaker John Boehner. This is a war powers letter that was sent over to Congress officially notifying lawmakers that the president has

1:21:55 authorized the deployment of 275 US armed forces personnel. Those personnel will basically be in Baghdad there to provide security and support for US personnel on the ground in Iraq, in Baghdad, and also to the embassy in Baghdad. So he just uses his war powers and he'll do nothing otherwise. Interesting guy back on the scene was Petraeus. And I want to mention before you bring that up, For some reason, I again, I shortened the McCain clip, McCain again, and I've seen this three and four and five times, McCain going on and on about how we should bring Petraeus back into the game. What is the deal with those two? Well, as I've mentioned before, the military would be all in, and I hear from Agent Orange,

1:22:48 So that's a European, EU military everywhere that he's going to run. And he's a serious contender. I don't know if he can really do it, but he shows up on the scene and he actually says something kind of funny. There has to be a huge idea here and it has to be that... And when you say huge idea, that means you know you got to have a guy to run the program. You know, this is not just like you gotta have a plan people. It has to be a huge idea here and it has to be that we, if there is to be support for Iraq, it has to be support for a government of Iraq.

1:23:26 that is a government of all the people and is representative of and responsive to all elements of Iraq. President Obama has been quite clear on this. This cannot be the United States being the air force for Shia militias or a Shia on Sunni Arab fight. It has to be a fight of all of Iraq against extremists who do happen to be Sunni Arabs. So we can't just be supporting the Shias, but unfortunately the other guys are the Sunnis. That's just too bad, isn't that? That's a little transparent, Petraeus. Sorry. You know, he doesn't have any presidential timber in his voice. He just has a uniform. That's the only thing that might work for him. Yeah, well that's, you know, he looks like Gan. I've said it before and I say it again.

1:24:22 He looks, when he wears his uniform, when he used to, he looked like a generalissimo from Chile with all the crap hanging off of it, much of it meaningless, you know, minor, you know, kept his room neat, folded, you know, a badge for that, folded his bed well, you know, good corners, you know, he had a badge for that. He had it all hanging from him. He was an Eagle Scout, I believe. It was just like ridiculous. And we've gotten to this discussion before and I've gotten many letters People say, well he has to, he's by military law, he has to wear all that crap. No, it's not true. Any general can do whatever he wants. He can wear a blazer. In fact, the Navy guy wears a blazer, one of them, in the Joint Chiefs. He can wear a blazer, he can wear khakis, he can wear a short thing, he can wear a tube top.

1:25:09 And he's fine because he can design his own uniform. And that's the fact that he doesn't do that and design something tasteful. In the case of me, he's not presidential caliber. Going back to my favorite angle on the issue, the oil and the resources, some interesting moves. Royal Dutch Shell is selling almost all of its stake in Australia's biggest oil and gas producer, Woodside. And the reason they're doing that is because Woodside withdrew from the Leviathan gas deal. They were supposed to be a contender and a member of the... Leviathan is the Israeli gas field that was discovered a couple years back, which turns Israel into a player on the market.

1:26:00 And they didn't, you know, Israel has been trying to screw all these partners but with a tax that would be higher than, you know, it's all about money, obviously. But the guys who are really in are Nobel Energy from Houston, who have, oh, Bill Clinton as one of their advisors. And the Israel-Turkey pipeline is in the works. So there's yet another and they're very quiet right now. You don't hear Israel saying too much. I haven't heard. Not even mentioned. No. It's funny because you'd say well this caliphate is going to attack Israel because they seem to have. The Levant goes all the Levant region goes all the way to Egypt according to the maps. Right and it takes over Israel. Yeah.

1:26:42 Yeah, but no one mentions this. This is like drop. This is dropping the conversation just the same way as a state-sponsored terrorism is yeah It's just drop from the conversation because what we're watching we're not even watching a real conversation No, we are the public the American public is watching a scenario. No. No, we're watching World Cup We're watching World Cup. We're not watching anything. It's true the World Cup exciting World Cup another nil-nil game Who undid nothing. The world, not just the American public, the entire world is being spoon-fed this bull crap of terror and just lies and just nothing at all that even comes near the truth. And I'm going to tell you, when you see Anderson Cooper doing a live stand-up from Baghdad, you know it's phony baloney. When something really heavy is going down, Anderson Cooper, a Vanderbilt, does not go there, CIA guy.

1:27:42 He worked for the CIA. But when Anderson Pooper is live from Baghdad, you know it's a setup. Please! The member the first time, Tahrir Square, he was there because that was all set up. Every other time after that, oh crap, these people are really killing people. I'm not gonna do it now. Fuck you, I'm not going. No way. I'm Anderson Vanderbilt Pooper, people. So it's a scam and it's all about... okay, sum it up for us, John. From the north and the south, obviously this is about the oil. It seems to me that if we look at the Kagan's in the north and the Kagan's in the south, it's about cutting

1:28:21 Russia out of everything north and south the Russians are the target they were cutting them out until he give us back Snowden And then we're still gonna cut him out Snowden I still believe is part of this issue Yeah, and especially when they renew his you know visa his asylum. Yeah, it's And the idea is, of course, we've wanted to do this forever, which is to let the Kurds take over the real riches. Since 1990, I think we've been trying to do this. Yes, we wanted them to take this over because they, we can work with them. They're good businessmen. They're not nutty. They're not shooting each other. There's nothing crazy going on. They have nice cuisine.

1:28:59 And now there is a moment apparently the Turks are actually contemplating giving them part, that part of Turkey that they've been fighting over because it will save the Turks a lot of money and it will be in exchange for either a pipeline running through Turkey and a payment, probably a lot of money involved. And the Kurds can run their little businesses and that would be the best thing for us. The rest of these guys can fight it out. We're not going to ever get the Iranian oil fields. That's not going to happen. And the, this thing, we're going to let it burn out. And let me just make a lot of money on the side because we can send in all these consultants and the taxpayer can take another hit of billions and billions of dollars that these guys do nothing. And then everyone's waves are I'm screaming in a circle running in a circle. And I'd also like to point out that while we have an

1:29:44 literally blown up the pipeline now from Russia through Ukraine to Europe, even though Russia doesn't really want to turn off the gas because their customers on the other side of Ukraine. So we blew up the Brotherhood pipeline. We have the Baku-Tbilisi pipeline, which comes right into Europe. It's, you know, Baku, that's...we own that. Baku is us. Georgia, Tbilisi is us. If they got a George W. Bush airport, please. You know, and Clinton was there. We got the U.S. Coast Guard protecting the pipeline coming in from Baku into Georgia, into the north, into our region.

1:30:21 And by the way, I want to mention something here about that pipeline being blown up. They were showing some footage... That was not of a... Yeah, go ahead. Well, they were showing different footages, but they were showing some spots where the pipeline was still intact and they were... Somebody was in... There's France 24. That pipeline that was built is old. Yes. It needs to go. And I think the Russians would like to put in some new pipes in. I mean, they showed one of these systems in the Ukraine side. The Russian side is gorgeous. They show it's beautiful, all high tech. good-looking pipes painted yellow and blue. And then the other was rusty, bent. The Ukrainian stuff was just a disaster. It was just like a bunch of crap that was lucky it could hold together. And I think there's maybe even more to this insurance scam or something like that. Reuters reports Iraqi Kurdistan has built a link connecting Kirkuk to its newly built pipeline into Turkey.

1:29:44 literally blown up the pipeline now from Russia through Ukraine to Europe, even though Russia doesn't really want to turn off the gas because their customers on the other side of Ukraine. So we blew up the Brotherhood pipeline. We have the Baku-Tbilisi pipeline, which comes right into Europe. It's, you know, Baku, that's...we own that. Baku is us. Georgia, Tbilisi is us. If they got a George W. Bush airport, please. You know, and Clinton was there. We got the U.S. Coast Guard protecting the pipeline coming in from Baku into Georgia, into the north, into our region.

1:30:21 And by the way, I want to mention something here about that pipeline being blown up. They were showing some footage... That was not of a... Yeah, go ahead. Well, they were showing different footages, but they were showing some spots where the pipeline was still intact and they were... Somebody was in... There's France 24. That pipeline that was built is old. Yes. It needs to go. And I think the Russians would like to put in some new pipes in. I mean, they showed one of these systems in the Ukraine side. The Russian side is gorgeous. They show it's beautiful, all high tech. good-looking pipes painted yellow and blue. And then the other was rusty, bent. The Ukrainian stuff was just a disaster. It was just like a bunch of crap that was lucky it could hold together. And I think there's maybe even more to this insurance scam or something like that. Reuters reports Iraqi Kurdistan has built a link connecting Kirkuk to its newly built pipeline into Turkey.

1:31:26 Ryan Kirkuk is the thing that Kurds just took. Yeah, and that's where the refinery is, and over in the fields. Cementing Kurdish control over the northern oil hub and reducing its reliance on Baghdad, which as we know is just a show. It's a big show there. The link will allow the Kurds to start exports of Kirkuk crude oil through their own network giving them a major source of independent revenue and boosting any ambitions of sovereign statehood as Iraq falls into increasing disarray. So there's the prize. There is the prize. And that is the whole... that is your play. That is your third act.

1:32:03 Create this situation, give the Kurds what we've wanted them to have, because we're buddies with the Kurds big time. And there you go. We're done. And listen to this from Reuters again. Iraq's Kurdistan region is ramping up independent oil exports with a third tanker set to load a cargo of crude from its disputed pipeline as Iraq struggles to stop an insurgency. The third tanker is scheduled to depart Turkey's Mediterranean port of Ceyhan The one that we showed to you on the show on Sunday. That will leave June 22nd carrying oil pumped through Kurdistan's new pipeline, which bypasses Baghdad, and that is according to Turkey's energy ministry. So there you go. They're pumping it, they got the new, it's their own pipeline network people. These are not just a bunch of towel heads on camels, which is what you're supposed to believe by the way.

1:32:58 Well, so how sad is it? I think we pretty much were done this to death unfortunately we're gonna have to talk about it more because they're gonna Come at us from all kinds of different angles with all more bullcrap about how the homeland's going to be attacked by Idiot the homeland is under attack by the That's the Kagan's yeah, we are under attack, but by our own government. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I And then Kerry wants to draw Iran, and I guess that's just the whole idea. It's just this talk of, oh, Iran can come and help. I think that's just to bring him in to rubbleize them, too. Well... Do you see it there? I don't know if we even need to get into it because I'm so tired. Yeah, I don't know what that's all about, to be honest about it. I mean, I have no idea. I think it's just to bring him in just to rubbleize.

1:33:50 Just to connect it all. Maybe if they're that stupid, I think they're pretty... a lot of these Middle Easterners, you know, they talk a lot and I think a lot of them have some common sense because they, you know, they know what... Well, what's interesting is that... They should know better. Right now, if you want to understand what's going on in your world, and I can really... I can speak on behalf of Dutch, Belgians, a little bit of the Brits, the population, and certainly the United States, the population has no, and I'm like 0.1% education of these affairs in the Middle East and in Eurasia. This is not taught in your common core. It's like even when I was going through school, what's Egypt? Pyramids and the Sphinx.

1:34:41 And the pharaohs and Cleopatra. Right. And what else did you learn? Nothing. Zero. School, the schul is meant to dumb you down and not actually teach you anything. Nothing. And I'm struggling. It is worse than ever. And I'm struggling myself. I'm a disc jockey. I went to, you know, I dropped out of college after three months because the radio station was too lame. And people just doing drugs and drinking, I was interested in being a disc jockey. And now I'm struggling to catch up and understand this stuff and going back and, you know, we should probably recommend everyone watch that Paris 1919 movie.

1:35:24 It does give you a good...you'll be blown away when you see a hundred years ago, there was no Iraq and Syria and Turkey per se. These lines were drawn up and it was made up and there was negotiation and there was weeks of infighting about who would get what and it was the spoils of war and who was going to pay how much and how much was a citizen worth. It's a fascinating thing to watch. I'm sure it's on, we can find it online, we'll post a link to it. It's probably on Amazon. Yeah. Or Netflix. And it's just sad. And sit your kids down. And force them. Say, have you heard of Iraq? Is that in, is that Minecraft? Actually, if we went onto the street today and asked people to tell us where Iraq was, probably one out of 20.

1:36:19 Could point it out on a map or point it out even in a region. If you drew four quadrants on the paper, they might be able to point to one of the four proper quadrants. Yeah, one chance out of four. 25% chance, yeah. But that's beside the point. But that's okay. It's not what our listeners are allowed. But understanding that this is now a hundred years, a hundred years of this bull crap and it's coming to a head. And yes, of course there's, you know, because of McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken and Internet and CNN, people in the regions are going, F that! What is going on here? So of course, they're easy. What else? They got nothing better to do than to join up. And seeing that they're being raped for a hundred years by the Brits and the French and the Americans, then them damn Turks up north and the Kurds.

1:37:17 Yeah, it's logical, but we have no understanding of the culture, of the history, and I'm really mad. I feel gypped. Where you feel gypped, you know more than most people now. I feel gypped, I thought I had an education. I got no education, I got nothing. Zero. Total gyp. Gyp. Yeah, it's a gyp. You're being a racist against the gypsies. Yes, I am, and screw the gyps. Well, besides it being by presidential proclamation National Day of Making 2014, as the president had a maker fair at the White House. Well, I thought that's funny because I thought you were going to say in the morning to me. I was going to say thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you Adam Curry. Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to the

1:38:10 Human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. In the morning to Sir 19-inch rack, Void Zero is working on the new infrastructure for the show. Very happy that we're getting all that Fortified for delivery outside of you know completely independent of of the everything everything networks and in the morning to Nick the rat who delivered us the fine artwork for episode 626

1:38:48 Which is starting to show up now on all the different podcatchers. Thank you all very much for yelling and bitching and moaning and groaning at all these different apps out there. Where our feed was broken, I think. Yeah, a lot of them got fixed. Yes, and you know what it really told me? There is such a market for doing this right. I mean, seriously. Well, maybe there's some we should think about. Yeah, I mean there is no one is really doing the podcast player right. Can you spec out the proper way to do it and have one of our geniuses code it and then we start a little thing on the side there? I think if we now busy you'd have to bring in Dave Weiner. You'd have to. Well, Weiner, you know, Weiner's a weird character because he's a he's kind of like an idiot savant genius. Yeah, but he. When you actually talk to him it's like, oh that's a great idea. Oh, that's interesting. I never thought of it that way.

1:39:43 He can be challenging to work with as possible. No, you can't work with him. So I think you have to bring him in as an advisor in the region. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I think that we are uniquely qualified to create a podcast app that actually does what it says on the box and how it's supposed to work. Right, with all the error back end that takes care of podcasts that aren't formed properly. Just make it work. Yeah. Alright. And of course, artgenerator.com is where you can find all of the artwork. I thought that's what Podshow was supposed to do. That was my idea. Well, interesting.

1:40:34 All right, let's thank a few people that helped us out here as the executive and associate executive producers for show 627 including sir pap smear from Mount Stewart Tasmania Australia $627 and 33 cents coming all the way across the water I TM John and Adam wrote a big message in the PayPal comment section, but the browser timed out at A synopsis of the message, sorry for not donating since my knighthood, but I've been hitting people in the mouth, my wife and daughter included. Hope donations pick up, otherwise the Daughters Education Fund might need to be raided.

1:41:11 No need to read this out. It's not worth it anyway! You won't learn anything! He says you don't have to read this out, but he just would like to have some karma and an OMG amazing jingle, which makes him laugh every time. He says our work has been outstanding lately. Thank you. And have been, he's been intending to donate for a while. Okay. Now by the way, he wants to, he calls himself Sir Papsmear and his wife has been demanding he change it, but he's not going to do it until he gets his second knighthood. Thank you very much. You've got karma. Oh my god, that is amazing! A lot of people like that jingle. Where's that come from? I have here on my sheet, Rona Thorn Archer. I have no idea. That's from, I guess it's from a movie? Yeah, it sounds like it's from a movie. Oh my god! It is pretty good. It is pretty good. People are like, I want that as my ringtone.

1:42:09 Sure. Yeah, it's not annoying enough. Ian, Ian. Very good. You said it right. Auckland, New Zealand, came out 333.33. It's been three weeks since my last deconstruction. I've been listening to your show for some time now and have found a great deal of value in it. I have tried to give value for value, however, because John ruined a great marketing idea by burning Club 33 to the ground. John can't figure out how to make Windows 8 boot to the desktop. What? I can't... I used the classic shell, it boosted the desktop fine. Adam has an atrocious fake Australian accent. This is his bitches. So we have to read him. Of course. Executive producer credit. John cannot pronounce my name correctly. What did I just do? You did it correctly. He said Ian. Okay, well I don't know what his complaint is. Somewhere along the line non-donors changing from boners to douchebags.

1:43:07 Well, we didn't do that. No, we don't have anything to do with that. There has been too little mockery of the British Parliament. Well, we just mocked them now for stealing our terrorists. John cannot pronounce Auckland correctly in a Kiwi accent. Ork-land. Ork-land. Ork-land. Gas is 220 a liter, about $7 a US gallon. What does that have to do with us? That's not my fault. Blame it on ISIS. I'm willing to let another day go by without donating. And if any of the producers have doubts about the way media works, I can say that until recently I worked in a large media company. The way the news works is really about advertising, and the pressure is placed on media by advertisers to write stories and not print stories based on ad revenue.

1:43:54 It's outrageous. The way news works is really about advertising and the pressure that is placed on media by advertisers to write stories and not print stories based on ad revenue is outrageous. It's a run-on... It's one of the issues you have with the cold read, which I'm a specialist at. I'm pretty good at it too. Recent news is ignored while drivel is published as news that is really just puff pieces and there's always a counter-argument to any negative threads that have to be published due to profile of story. It's sickened me so much I quit! And now on behalf of the kittens everywhere I salute you. And he says he sent us the money after he got laid off. He'll be back. There's no way. Well actually he said, I got laid off today and I'm still throwing down the gauntlet to other boners. Yes. Thank you Ian. And now we have a theme. Oh boy, I hadn't even seen this.

1:44:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm getting there. Eight seven six five four three two one. Yeah for some reason it didn't reach Let's try it again here we go Took a while but Sorry. Yes, our original first Grand Duke comes in. It's not in my case because I like to show less or do not value what you do. I can't speak for the other listeners. Please do keep the great work and analysis coming. It's appreciated more than you may know. LGY Karma for all my friends in need of love and better health or a general good cheer. Ah, so kind from our grand duke. You've got karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

1:46:06 Mr. Scott Spence in Dawsonville, Georgia, 33333. Black Knight Scott, you don't need to read this on the air, but thank you for your courage! Now, this is a drunk donation here, but he says it's a drunk donation. You have to read it. I suppose he wants me to read it such. Yes, of course. This is a drunk donation. Just asking for some jobs karma followed by some Dr. Kiki. John, get your ass on HF. You also need to visit some of our North Georgia wineries. Adam, give me a call any time that you and or Miss Mickey have any problems in Atlanta. Black Knight Scott. And he's November. Soon to be baron. November, November 4 whiskey. No, that's what, that's a short one that you must be an expert. An extra. That doesn't mean he's not an expert. No, that's true.

1:47:03 You've got karma jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Already science I'm sure he's an expert. I am apparently just losing my grip on the ham I have to get back on track with this. Yeah, if you I'm telling you this d-star thing it's for you. I You tell me that, yeah, but what is it, why is it so special? What would be the reason I'd want it? It's because it really is simple to operate. I mean, this is why I like it too. So you're calling me an idiot? No, no, no, I'm using it too. I like it. It's, it's the big Linux hacker culture around it.

1:47:47 Because it is kind of... the iCom has kind of cornered the market and it's cool because people like to, you know, try and hack against that. At the same time they all have iCom gear so it's kind of cool. But what's nice about it is it really does work anywhere and you can communicate anywhere and through the internet that's worldwide and of course in an emergency it could save your life. Well, in what way? Because then you can still communicate without the internet. You see? Oh yeah. No, that's what I would assume. But it's essentially, it's a social network for people who had to take a license. I think that last night, you know, I listened on Reflector 33 Charlie, of course. 33 Charlie you were on, huh? That's our number, 33 Charlie. Yeah, 33 Charlie. You know, and we get like guys, hey in the morning, they just pop in and pop out, you know, and we're just hanging out there and it's all digital so the quality is really nice and

1:48:47 I have a little hotspot now, which is basically like having a little repeater you can take anywhere, plug it into your computer, and now people are hacking Raspberry Pis and, you know, and adding a Wi-Fi hotspot and they drop it somewhere and you've got a essentially a repeater for this whole network anywhere you want it. It's interesting. It's very hackerish, yet internet, RF, it's like a radiophone Network and I love tell you the NSA is not listening in on this. They're not. Yeah, believe me that believe me They're not interested. So, all right. Well, I said that you know one we have a good donation day. I'll get one of those Okay Okay. Now we're onward. Yes Oscar Zamora. Oh, it looks like you sent an email and here it is right here in front of me Wow amazing here Adam and John longtime boner first-time donor. He said longtime Bonner actually, you know, it happens I'll accept that. Okay, what?

1:47:47 Because it is kind of... the iCom has kind of cornered the market and it's cool because people like to, you know, try and hack against that. At the same time they all have iCom gear so it's kind of cool. But what's nice about it is it really does work anywhere and you can communicate anywhere and through the internet that's worldwide and of course in an emergency it could save your life. Well, in what way? Because then you can still communicate without the internet. You see? Oh yeah. No, that's what I would assume. But it's essentially, it's a social network for people who had to take a license. I think that last night, you know, I listened on Reflector 33 Charlie, of course. 33 Charlie you were on, huh? That's our number, 33 Charlie. Yeah, 33 Charlie. You know, and we get like guys, hey in the morning, they just pop in and pop out, you know, and we're just hanging out there and it's all digital so the quality is really nice and

1:48:47 I have a little hotspot now, which is basically like having a little repeater you can take anywhere, plug it into your computer, and now people are hacking Raspberry Pis and, you know, and adding a Wi-Fi hotspot and they drop it somewhere and you've got a essentially a repeater for this whole network anywhere you want it. It's interesting. It's very hackerish, yet internet, RF, it's like a radiophone Network and I love tell you the NSA is not listening in on this. They're not. Yeah, believe me that believe me They're not interested. So, all right. Well, I said that you know one we have a good donation day. I'll get one of those Okay Okay. Now we're onward. Yes Oscar Zamora. Oh, it looks like you sent an email and here it is right here in front of me Wow amazing here Adam and John longtime boner first-time donor. He said longtime Bonner actually, you know, it happens I'll accept that. Okay, what?

1:49:44 Finally got me to donate was your discussion of the b1 friendly fire strike on US troops in Afghanistan in your analysis that was connected to the retirement of the a10 otherwise known as the war dog as a self-proclaimed history and military buff since a young age I should do this, I'm sure there's a way. I would like to point out the real reason for the retirement of the US only purpose-built ground attack and support aircraft, the A-10, to pay for a huge prices to pay for that piece of junk, the F-35. I think our analysis included that, Ted, did it not? Yes, we talked about this. And I have included a link to interview with Pierre Spray, the designer of the A-10 and F-15. I think that's the guy we played. I think so.

1:50:28 Two planes that are beloved by pilots and ground troops alike for the ground attack roles, in particular the case of the A-10, the last gunfighter with a 30mm anti-tank Vulcan cannon for ground attack. planes are universally loathed by the Air Force brass as the Air Force hates to run ground attack missions as it makes them feel subservient to the Army Marines. Oh yeah. That would make sense. Yeah. And would rather fight its own war using high-altitude strategic bombing. Here I come! I do wonder why the Pentagon made a point of blaming the friendly fire incident on such an aircraft like the B-1 strategic bomber. That is wholly inadequate for ground attack roles. In the interview, Pierre Sprite points out the F-35 can't turn, can't climb, is totally useless as a ground attack plane and a stealth tech in general is totally bogus, as then he goes on with what we played on the clip. And I think that thing is... ...the assassination. He would like more Al Sharpton clips. Oh, I believe that thing has also cost

1:51:27 What is it now? 600 billion or something? Oh, it's a fiasco. Some outrageous amount? It's a fiasco. Uh, which, uh, we have, uh... Oscars in San Francisco. There's no real conflict! You know, I just throw out a... conflict. That's good enough. Yeah. Dame Astrid's... here. Dun-da-da-da. Wait, I don't have her on. Oh yeah, here she is. Oh, Sendagaya. Yes, Dame Astrid. Tokyo. Tokyo. She says, I've been listening for years, you guys make me laugh. Okay, well she's giving us like a background on what we know, but she's been listening for years, you make me laugh and think you are my friends. Aww, you're our friends. It's a twice weekly date.

1:52:10 And you don't have to wake up with us all smelly and stinky in the morning. Yeah, how lucky am I? So no, there is no alternative to the best podcast in the universe, but we need to talk about those UGGs, Adam. You wear UGGs? All the time. Don't raff! Thank you always, Dame Astrid Viscountess of Tokyo. Don't raff! Why are you raffing? Shut up. I owe her a picture. She gave Mickey and I both a Kiana? Kiana? I think it's a version. It's kind of like a kimono design bathrobe. Uh-huh. And I wear them with my Uggs. Oh, okay. We don't want to imagine that. Yeah, you do. Oh, no. Arthur Gobitz. Thank you, Dame Astrid.

1:53:02 in Zondom. Very good. $303. Six years later and he's nailed it. Dear John and Adam, in order to keep you two out of the poorhouse, we decided to again donate last week's $33.33. Did not bring you guys food on the table. Hope today's amount will help a bit more than the $3.03 amount. Brings me a whole dollar over $1k. Yeah! I did it. Oh, we didn't get this noted. Please knight me put it on the list. He's on the list. Please knight me Arthur son of Luther Pendragon from the castle of Camelot King of the Britons the leader of the Saxons sovereign of all England a No, that's like that lines been taken by Graham Chapman. Okay, just knight me Arthur hugger of kitties So he will be knighted Arthur hugger of kitties. Oh

1:53:52 Thank you. Your continued verbal efforts keep me of legal and illegal medication. Keep me off of legal and ill medicated and illegal medication, which is probably true. Please, please, please look into some decent whiskeys to try out. Adam Santori is a brave attempt into the real stuff. So is riding a tricycle. Dank voor alles en grote knuffel van mijn 3 brave monsters Rambo, Kenny and Lila. That was pretty close. Dank voor alles en grote knuffel. Grote knuffel. Knuffel. Knuffel. Knuffel. Like a knush but say knuffel. Knuffel. Knuffel. Not kn, no, knuffle. Knuffle. Knuffle. No, no, connect the k and the n. Knuffle. Knuffle. There you go. That's a hug.

1:54:45 Thomas, we... Come here, I'll give you a nice hug. In Norway, $300. I can't find a note from you, Thomas. Oh, boy. but he sent 300 in, which is nice. Sir Craig Jones in Danville, Pennsylvania, 300. John and Adam, thanks for all you do. The show is better than ever and you deserve some more support. I'm a grad student studying education who hasn't donated much since becoming a knight three years ago. So de-douche me if you feel a necessary relationship. Karma would be great too. Keep the great work. Shameless plug for my humble little podcast on the No Agenda Radio Network, Just Getting Tech, is the name of it, I guess.

1:55:27 So he needs karma and a de-douche. Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake. That was for me. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I don't think I've heard just getting tech. I have. Oh, fantastic. Sir Tom Dari in the somewhere Japan he's in Yokosuka 244 associate executive producer having been contributing 42 monthly since August 2012 check on that by the way this should bring one to an even $1,200 in recognition my daughter's recent graduation from high school and her birthday on June 17th I would like to bestow Dame Ashley to a baronetess very nice

1:56:23 She'll be attending Lawrence University in the fall, and will need an LGY Karma shot. Also, when can we expect to see the Ultimate Podcaster for sale as your device? Well, when? Well, the problem with this... Well, let me guess what the problem is. The problem is you ran into some other gear that took you off the track and this thing will never be available now. No, that is incorrect. But I most definitely ran into some... the gear that we're using now that is just so incredibly good that I would not want to sell anybody something that is not equally as good because then it couldn't be called the ultimate podcast device. Oh, a rewrite of what I just said. Now, here's where it gets more interesting.

1:57:12 The setup that I'm using for most podcasts would probably come in, if you already have the laptop, you have to have a modern Apple Macintosh laptop, would come in at around 600 bucks. What, I'm going to come in at 400 and think that this is, you know, it's no. So I would rather Quite honestly, I would rather hook up with these guys at Universal Audio and create the ultimate podcast package and help them market it. That's what I think would make more sense.

1:57:50 Okay, don't you think? That's reasonable. I'm not gonna argue about that. The goal is to get something to people that works. If I can do this with something that already exists but just needs to be configured in a certain way, that seems like a good idea. And Universal Audio has almost all the pieces. I could show them what we need to finalize it and market it properly, and I think that they could, it would open a whole new market for them. There's your answer. Okay, I'll buy that okay, and I think you're been it would be better for you because you don't really want us to be selling hardware it's a lot of work and Sounds right yeah, all right. Let me get another karma as requested. You've got karma and LG why?

1:58:38 So you want to put her on the list for the... I guess she's... No, we mentioned the titles. Baronet, Tess... Nick Johannes in St. Louis Park, Minnesota, NUTS 20627. Could John call my non-contributing friend who introduced me to the show a douchebag? DOOCHEBAG! Oops, I slipped. I'm bad on the douche today. That's okay, you can do it again right here. His name is Eric Humphries. DOOCHEBAG! Adam should tell him to finally get his ham license too. We'll tell him. Hey! Eric Humphries, get your ham license already.

1:59:18 But seriously, it's us, or he says it's the us or Alex Jones comic that really hit home. It worked. Put that in one of the good work. It's true. Yeah. I think there'd be some more alternative media outlets, but no, no, they're all lockstep in with some advertiser. And I would include Jones with that. 1776 is upon us. It's going into the ground and coming for our guns. You know, there was only...I've heard one podcaster do an imitation of him with that polyp-y voice. And you really have to have...I don't know how...I don't think you...you're not even close. I don't even want to try. No, you blow your vocal cords out. Yeah, exactly.

2:00:01 Kelly Sandin in Birmingham, Alabama, $200. My brother, Stephen Sandin, punched me in the mouth a while ago like a douchebag to my boyfriend, Jordan Davis. He won't even listen to the show with me. I need some job karma because I'm going to take the bar in July for Tennessee and I need a job offer that... I need a job offer after that. Love you guys. Kelly. I tell you, it might be time to look for a new boyfriend. Yeah, really. You gotta be honest. If he won't even listen to the show with you, that's a big, giant wedge in the relationship. Yeah, find somebody else. You've got karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yeah! Most of these Alabama women get a pick of the litter anyway. They're generally gorgeous. Gorgeous, yeah. Thomas M. Brecks.

2:00:58 I'm thinking in Namur, Belgium, 200 bucks. One step closer to knighthood, you matter more than you might think to a lot of people. Thank you. Regime Books says regime. In Perth, our favorite town in Australia, $200. I've never been there. One step. Oh, I'm sorry. Please credit Nathan Hondros. Quote, I heard JCD on Twit when they started talking about Jolie Odell's poetry. Leo brought up a collection she published, Manque by Regina Alexandra and Google scanned, and I wrote the foreword. Ha! Figured that the universe was telling me to crank up my support for the best podcast in the universe.

2:01:48 Meanwhile, I've been hitting every artist and writer I know in the mouth. They're the ones that used to have the courage before sucking on the sugary tit of government funding. P.S. Google can bite my ass. Any chance of a shut-up slave and a karma? You bet. Shut up, slave! You've got karma. Happy to do that. Always happy. That was a pretty odd coincidence, don't you think? I think that whole episode of This Week in Tech was interesting. Why? What was it about it that you think was needed? That I've been banned because of my denialism. What did you think? Well, that's not why you've really been banned and I made that clear on the show. That's not true. Because after you left,

2:02:40 There was a whole conversation. Oh really? After I left you're talking behind my back? Oh, they even ragged on you. John, the last couple of times, John has really just taken the show off the rails. What is that with him? Who said that? Leo. He said I took the show off the rails? Not just this show, the last couple of times. Oh, you mean I took the show off of away from the pandering to advertisers? Yes, yes, that would be the definition of off the rails. Yes, and why did he just it just last couple of shows just You've not you've now you've been a bad boy Anyway, I was anyway, there was Jolie there to defend me or did she leave already? Uh, no, this was when no, she was, I think she was gone. She was not sitting at the table. She was gone. Yeah. But now this is, I can't have Adam on a new show. He doesn't believe in the moon landing, which is not what I said, by the way. I said, I questioned the official story. That's different than I don't believe it. He doesn't, he's crazy, but I can have him on triangulation. Yeah. You can sit in my triangulation douche.

2:03:44 Oh, God, sorry. And finally, last but not least on our list of associate and executive producers, Neil Liston in Edinburgh, UK, $200. I do not have a note from him that I can find. Neil, if you have something to say, let us know and we'll say it. Wow. I want to thank all these people. Yes. Quite a few of them for donating as a kind of a carryover from the last donation period. For show 627, we want to remind you we do have a show 628 coming up and it probably will be short executive producers from the sounds of things. So, um, dvorak.org slash NA. And thanks very much. Congratulations, uh, New Ham, kilo kilo six November Delta X-ray.

2:04:28 Hmm, I don't have a name, but anyway, we always like to look him up in the database can you can we always like to see new ham operators coming on board? He's got a cheap China rig Bay of Fang fantastic That's a good way to start and we encourage that because besides it being a cool thing to do, it might save your ass in an emergency. All right everybody, support us please! And of course we need you to continue to help us go out there and propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, snake!

2:05:22 And I want to mention that we had a number of people that missed the deadline for the Happy Father's Day call out. That means anything they donated would have been called out. Their name would have been mentioned. We do have them to be called out at the end of today's show. We'll call them all out and then that'll be the end of it, no more. That donation thing will be shut down. Very nice. Let's see what's uh... Well I got a couple things that might be good segues. Yeah please, seg us into something new. This upset me. Play the France giving up on nukes.

2:06:00 Okay, what is this going to be about? Let's come back to France shall we? I'm one of President Francois Hollande's electoral promises overhaul France's energy sector He's handed that task an environment minister hasn't he? C'est Galen Royale. That's right. So it was a tricky test task trying to live up to your campaign promises well three-fourths of France's energy comes from nuclear the highest level among developed economies and The socialist government wants to drastically shift that focus to non-nuclear renewables. The new law does not specify whether any of the country's 58 nuclear plants will close, but the cap makes it seem inevitable. But the government says going green will create 100,000 new jobs. Luke Brown has all the details. We have to diversify our energy sources.

2:06:49 So the level of nuclear power has to be stabilized and then it has to be reduced when it comes to electricity production." Despite calls from the anti-nuclear lobby, the government has no plans to force the closure of any aging plants. But with a new cap on total nuclear production, electricity utility EDF will likely be forced to shut some as new generation sites come online. A deadline that opponents say will cost France dear. Very soon it'll be 2025. This means we have to close more than 20 reactors. That's ruinous. Ruinous for jobs, ruinous for our ability to compete. Ruinous because it will cost the state to pay back EDF. Well break my baguette. These guys are nuts. This is the most effective nuclear power generating

2:07:44 State society society in the world. They're the they're the head of the curve This is crazy everything standardized and it's never had what's the big accident that they had did they have something that wiped out the vineyards of Sheen on where I know there's a power plant. This is just this is a big Well, of course, this is all about subsidies. So like in Germany, you know every all of the solar and the wind it's all subsidized and And every single windmill in the Netherlands is its own LLC. And they have shareholders. And it's a big moneymaker. Not because of the energy it's produced, but because of the subsidies. Yes, when I was floating around the Netherlands looking at some of these farms,

2:08:29 And apparently you put one of these up in your farm, you don't have to do any more farming, which a lot of people are not doing. They just stop farming because they're making just enough money off the phony baloney subsidies for these things. And by the way, two things, I didn't find a bunch of dead birds under any of them. But it makes a creepy whooshing sound that apparently drives people nuts. Oh yeah, there's lots of examples of that. The sound pollution and it's an eyesore. Yeah, and it's an eyesore. I've actually, when I flew, I once flew down with the Cessna to Cannes from the UK and I flew past a number of these reactors in France. It's beautiful! So nice to see. But you can't come too close of course because they will shoot you out of the sky. They're pretty clear about that.

2:09:18 They got AWACS flying around. It's all protected. Sir Rod Adams will, I'm sure he can clue us in as to exactly what this is all about, but this sounds like a money grab from a bunch of douchebags who just want to be a part of the hip new crowd, which is really, it's stealing money from the public. It makes no sense to me. Renewables. Sir Rod Adams, a call out to you and I'm sure I'll have an answer by Sunday. Anyway, I found that a very disturbing story. It was like, here's the leader, world leader in the whole process of independence. And the standardization, you're absolutely right. Well, there's a lot going on since you bring in the Agenda 21 climate change. What is the percentage of scientists that agree that... 97%! When it comes to climate change, when it comes to food security, we are literally facing a moment of adversity, perhaps even

2:10:19 dire necessity. It's hard to convince people, hard to convince people of a challenge that isn't immediately tangible to everybody particularly. But it is clear to at least 98, 99% of all the scientists in our country... Oh God, he's up for another one! ...to confront these challenges. That's Kerry. 98, 99, whatever. Yeah, so I have some climate change clips because there was another hearing. Oh, yes with Whitehouse and Markey the two guys are just lockstep into this now unfortunately I have two of the clips named climate change Botkin three yeah, but there's one is is one the duplicate never mind okay? There's where's do you have climate change Botkin one?

2:11:07 No, I don't see that. There should be three clips. No, I have two and I have three and I have a duplicate of three. Right, which is actually a duplicate. That's a real duplicate. Yeah, did you... I did not see. I can look in the... Okay, I don't have it. Well, let's start with climate change. Do you want to email me something real quick and I'll play another... No, I don't have it. This is what I got. I've seen everything I have. So, let's start with two. And this is an emeritus professor being grilled by one of the guys, I think this is the right clip. Emeritus, that means... He's retired, University of California, Santa Barbara, very famous guy and he's been on the... he's one of the 97%. It means you're retired and you deserve it.

2:11:51 Exactly. It's unacceptable that scientists like Dr. Botkin and others are being... Stop, stop, stop. This is the one you told me to play. Yeah, I know I did. Now I'm very disturbed because I don't have the opening clip. Interesting social media. Dr. Oz. Let me change Botkin to... Huh. Well that's disturbing. It happens. Because it's the setup for the punch. Well do you want to just hold it until Sunday? Yeah let me hold it till Sunday because it's the same old story. Yeah I'll hold it till Sunday and then we'll deal with it then. It's another disgusting series of clips. Well let me come in to save the day. Okay. Have you noticed an abundance of seagulls recently in your area?

2:12:36 Not at all. It's natural to see California gulls by San Francisco Bay, but not in the numbers seen today. It's just an absolutely amazing increase from 20 to over 53,000. And that's still growing. It is still growing. Absolutely. Catherine Burns of the San Francisco Bay Bird Observatory cites all the available food in the Bay Area. So, you know, like people moving to California, the gulls are now moving to California. The word is out. They've discovered the Bay Area. Yes. Are you sure you haven't noticed? There's not a bird in sight and pilots are discovering the gulls.

2:13:15 This sounds really bad. We gotta do something about this. San Jose Airport, there were 95 plane bird collisions last year, often with gulls. At San Francisco's AT&T Park, huge flocks scavenged for food. They show the whole stadium filled, empty of course, filled with seagulls, John. I cannot believe this. Hold on a second. This is not new. For the last 30 years, the stadiums, both the mostly Candlestick Park and then the new Giant Stadium. When you go to a game there, and this has been going on for years, you go to the game there, when it gets to the ninth inning, the birds start to show up.

2:13:57 And they start to ring the stadium and pretty soon by the end of the game, it's wall-to-wall birds. And they sit there. And then when everyone leaves, the birds swoop down and eat all the french fries and potato chips and all the shit that people throw on the ground when they're eating their food at the park. And that's been going on forever. It's kind of a sight because the whole place is ringed with thousands of birds. Yeah, that's what they're showing. Yeah, so what? That's been going on forever. Well, I think this report, now I'm convinced of the bogativity of it. Since you are telling me there is no increase in birds, they've just pulled out some bird watcher to say there's more birds. But there is a more nefarious reason. Disgusting fans with their droppings. The gulls eat just about anything. Rick King runs Newby Island Resource Recovery Park, commonly called a garbage dump.

2:14:52 He sees gulls as a sanitation threat. The seagulls are incredibly smart and well organized, believe it or not. Using flares, they frighten the gulls away. On the ground, they unleash the dogs. In the air, they employ falcons to keep the gulls from congregating. Okay, where do you think it's going, John? What could this be? What could the cause be? It costs this one dump $300,000 a year to control the gulls. And they're pretty determined, but so are we. So far, it's a stalemate, with scientists unable to say whether it's climate change or a shortage of predators. Climate change! There you go.

2:15:38 Usually climate change will be killing off them, whatever it is, they're killing them off. It's climate change. Too many birds. Now these seagulls, by the way, I have not seen an increase in any of them. I mean, just a steady population. Sometimes they do, if there's a storm coming in, they all move inland. It's kind of interesting to get them all over the place. But I have been to the park a number of times and they're not crapping all over the patrons. They patiently wait. for the stadium to clear out. They might crap on the people that are trying to clean up the place afterwards, but they don't necessarily crap on the people. And the other thing is this has been going on. The seagulls around here have been doing this crap forever. I one time just a story. I was why I was at the Sam's or someplace. There's an open air restaurant in Sausalito. I was eating with somebody there and and there was a bunch of the birds like to sit around the outside in case somebody dropped something. They'll swoop in and grab it and fly off.

2:16:33 So there was this one woman sitting there gesticulating with her left hand holding a burger, and she's waving her hands around. And this couple of birds were looking at this, and I was watching too, because I couldn't, I wish I had my camera running, because I knew what was gonna happen. She says something, and the bird swoops down, one of the seagulls swoops down and grabs the burger from her hand and flies off with it. This is what these seagulls do. They're just astonishing. Yeah, they're great. Have you heard about these new ants? New ants? Well, I know they're not new, but it's a new plague in the... I think it's in the southeast. These ants have had... Fire ants have been around for a while. They have jaws that are so powerful they can fling themselves through the air. Yeah, what is it called? They're like lockjaw ants or something? No, I have not heard this.

2:17:32 I just don't have it in front of me, but I read something about it. Well, let me go to this since I don't have my global warming clips in order. Let's bring up something that happened, which is Dr. Oz had to testify Yeah, before Congress and I promise I discuss this a little because there's there was one note of humor actually two notes of humor in here But let's start off with they did what we out there. What was it about? What was going on? It was about false advertising It was an FTC hearing and it was done by the Senate committee and Claire McCaskill was the one that was reaming this guy, right? So they started off by playing this embarrassing commercial, which he denied have anything to do with, but this is the Dr. Oz commercial that they played in front of Congress. You may think magic is make-believe, but this little bean has scientists saying they found a magic weight loss cure for every body type. It's green coffee beans. And when turned into a supplement, this miracle pill can burn fat fast for anyone who wants to lose weight. This is very exciting and it's breaking news.

2:18:35 Millions of you love coffee, but now you're going to love it for a whole other reason. A staggering newly released study reveals that the coffee bean in its purest, raw may hold the secret to weight loss that you've been waiting for. The study presented at a meeting of the world's largest scientific society triggered unprecedented excitement for a weight loss study. It showed women and men who took green coffee extract lost an astounding amount of fat and weight, 17 pounds in 22 weeks by doing absolutely nothing extra in their day.

2:19:15 Could this be the magic weight loss bean to help melt away unwanted pounds that you've been waiting for? Go now to poopitout.com. Now he claims over and over again that he doesn't get paid for any of this, and I'm thinking, what bull crap. So here's, I got too close to McCaskill reaming him out, and this is clip number one, which is the long one. McCaskill reams Dr. Oz. Can't figure this out, Dr. Oz. I, you know, I, I get that you do a lot of good on your show. I understand that you give a lot of information that's great information about health and you do it in a way that's easily understandable. You're very talented, you're obviously very bright, you've been trained in science-based medicine. Now, here's three statements you made on your show.

2:20:06 You may think magic is make-believe, but this little bean has scientists saying they found the magic weight loss cure for every body type. It's green coffee extract. Quote, I've got the number one miracle in a bottle to burn your fat. It's raspberry ketone. Quote, Garcinia Cambogia. It may be the simple solution you've been looking for to bust your body fat for good. I don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true. So why when you have this amazing megaphone and this amazing ability to communicate Why would you cheapen your show by saying things like that science? Well if I could

2:20:50 disagree about whether they work or not and I'll move on to the issue of the words that I used. And just with regards to whether they work or not, take green coffee bean extract as an example. I'm not gonna argue that it would pass FDA muster if it was a pharmaceutical drug seeking approval, but among the natural products that are out there, this is a product that has several clinical trials. There was one large one, a very good quality one, that was done the year that we talked about this in 2012. I want them to know about that clinical trial. Because the only one I know was 16 people in India that was paid for by the company that was in fact, at the point in time you initially talked about this being a miracle, the only study that was out there was the one with 16 people in India that was written up by somebody who was being paid by the company that was producing it. Shut up already! It's science!

2:21:42 So he goes on defending himself and then she comes up with a second commentary which is McCaskill, this is a second McCaskill clip. There were internet scam ads picking one or two supportive words where of course I support them I wouldn't be talking about otherwise. Well. It still ended up out there. I, I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm surprised that you are defending, um, I mean, I've tried to really do a lot of research in preparation for this trial and the scientific community is almost monolithic against you in terms of the efficacy of the three products that you call miracles. Now, what trial? She gives you the trial. Can I just say something about this for a moment? Yes. All right.

2:20:50 disagree about whether they work or not and I'll move on to the issue of the words that I used. And just with regards to whether they work or not, take green coffee bean extract as an example. I'm not gonna argue that it would pass FDA muster if it was a pharmaceutical drug seeking approval, but among the natural products that are out there, this is a product that has several clinical trials. There was one large one, a very good quality one, that was done the year that we talked about this in 2012. I want them to know about that clinical trial. Because the only one I know was 16 people in India that was paid for by the company that was in fact, at the point in time you initially talked about this being a miracle, the only study that was out there was the one with 16 people in India that was written up by somebody who was being paid by the company that was producing it. Shut up already! It's science!

2:21:42 So he goes on defending himself and then she comes up with a second commentary which is McCaskill, this is a second McCaskill clip. There were internet scam ads picking one or two supportive words where of course I support them I wouldn't be talking about otherwise. Well. It still ended up out there. I, I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm surprised that you are defending, um, I mean, I've tried to really do a lot of research in preparation for this trial and the scientific community is almost monolithic against you in terms of the efficacy of the three products that you call miracles. Now, what trial? She gives you the trial. Can I just say something about this for a moment? Yes. All right.

2:22:22 And we have discussed this on the show when it started. Dr. Oz, by the way, he's part of the Oprah empire. Yes. Harpo. He is part of Sharecare. If you look at his website, sharecare.com is the big connection. And I'll just read to you from the New York Times. In 2010 when this started, websites to offer health advice, some of it from marketers. And this is Sharecare.com. Those behind Sharecare, a company formed last year to operate it, would hope its features will enable the new website to thrive in a crowded field. Others in the online healthcare category include About.com, AOL, CNN, eHow, Everyday Health, Health.com, MSN, WebMD, and Yahoo.

2:23:11 Shareco will begin with content contributed by organizations like AARP, the American Cancer Society, the American Heart Association, the American Red Cross, the Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins, the National Academy of Sports, along with medical professionals like Dr. Mehmet Oz. Those contributors are to be known as experts on the site. There is another label knowledge partners for marketers that are paying an estimated 1 to 7 million dollars to become sponsors of sharecard.com including Colgate-Palmolive, Johnson & Johnson, the medicines company, Pfizer, Unilever, Walgreen, and of course we know that Dr. Oz Shield for the Walgreen vaccines. This is a known

2:23:52 Bullcrap operation, and I don't know what McGaskill is going on about but I mean hello. You don't need What is this this a whole the whole thing you just pull in one guy and about one coffee bean What about the real shit that's going on here? Well, they still focused on him because I think he's a celebrity and so they were all asking him questions But then you know how people always tell the truth Yeah, without wanting to do it. Without wanting to do it. There's a very interesting truth-telling thing here in the Dr. Oz clip itself. And in your testimony you address online advertisements. What would you like to see done?

2:24:28 If I can just give three ideas, I'm just trying to be constructive. I'd like to hear them. I think the private sector can help by creating a quick reference registry that lists celebrities who are legitimately connected to products. So I don't happen to have any products that I sell, but whether the services are being promised and involve Ellen DeGeneres, Jimmy Fallon, Rachel Ray, and a list of scam celebrities goes on. What? What did he say? Did he say Ellen DeGeneres? He said the list of scam celebrities goes on. Including himself. But what he meant, or he wanted to say... Is the scam advertisers. The scam advertisers. Yeah, no, you're heading up the list, my friend. So the list of scam celebrities. Scam celebrities. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Which is what I think they are. They're scam celebrities. I think most celebrities are scam celebrities.

2:25:24 I think Freeman Dyson would be a real celebrity. Well, that's a good question. It's not really a question, it's a statement. Well, yeah. Well, you said, I think. Yeah, it is a statement. You're right. I believe. I want to say this about that. There's a couple of... So, of course, Hillary Clinton doing the rounds. Live CNN town hall with Christiane Annapur. Just when I had respect for Christiane Annapur, she goes back down in the toilet. Flush her down with the pandering bullcrap. Apparently the book has only sold 60,000 copies. Yes, this was a clip I had for the last show I wanted to play, but I forgot, which was a listing of all the top 10 best non-fiction sellers and it included at number 8 Elizabeth Warren's book. And the question was going to be to you, what book is missing from this list? It was on BookTV on Sunday. Yeah, of course. And Hillary's book is not up there. And even though she sold 60,000 copies, that's not enough to make a real list.

2:26:27 And I think this book's a dog. I think it's a turkey. I mean, they spent, I don't know, what, eight million bucks for her to do this book or something? I think they have to recover. I didn't do the calculation, but I would guess they probably have to sell at least a quarter of a million to half a million books to break even. Now you are a, without a doubt, you have experience in the literary field. Why is it that even I, who will read a book from Cass Sunstein, Why? I mean, I'll read a book from anybody. Why am I not interested? What did they do wrong? Somehow they did something wrong with this book.

2:27:07 Yeah, yeah. Well, now you ask the question, I have to think about it differently. There was errors made in the marketing of this book. I think one of the errors is Hillary herself. They sent her on a book tour. She had nothing interesting to say and all the feedback on the book was, oh, she's soft peddling, she's not really telling the truth, she's just covering her ass for the Benghazi thing. Everything that she has said about the book herself is not interesting. She has not, and we had a clip of her sitting down. Yeah, it was completely broken. She's boring, and she's not making the book sound any very interesting. And the name of the book, Hard Choices. Bad Choices would have been a better name. Yeah, bad title. What is the name? The book cover is horrendous. I was just going to say, let me look at the cover. It's a very unattractive photo of her, I believe. I mean, I've seen

2:28:04 Let me see. The picture itself is not appealing. Yeah, it's not really an interesting... It's staring at you, it's kind of creepy. And the book's long, it's too long. Elizabeth Warren books is short. Like, it's not short short, but it's short. Yeah, it's a little creepy. 600 pages of what? It's 600 pages, that book? Really? Yeah, I believe so. Again, I didn't get a copy either. But it's not... Well, there's another problem. Maybe they didn't see the media properly. That's it. There was no... Okay, I think that she did too much pre-stuff about, you know, before the book came out. Well, and don't forget, remember the leaked chapter that came out? Who cares? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not well executed. Now, who is the publisher of this? Let's see who they are. Somebody's heads should roll. Yeah, well, I have no idea. This is the worst book. Nancy Pelosi's book, when she came out with the book, nobody bought it. Period.

2:29:05 Yeah, I didn't buy that one either. This is pretty much in that same league. I think also what hurts the book sales is the whole idea of, you know, the only question we want answered is, yeah, I'm gonna run. I think that's also a problem. That's all that the questions are about. And she's, I mean, like in the sea, I watched the CNN, uh, uh, town hall, please town hall. You know and it's all every single time is like well as I wrote in the book as I wrote in chapter 29 as I say in the book it's like enough already. He does a lot of that. Enough already. Yeah. Well then why are you here? Let's just go read the book. Go home.

2:29:47 There is some anti Hillary sentiment out there of course fueling your I want to just throw this in which is Politico you can see where they're coming from sources Hillary books sell strong 100,000 copies officials with Hillary Clinton's publishers Simon and Schuster insist her book has fared well It reports of weak sales Well, I don't see her on any list Not that I care. Here is CNN and this is, you'll recall Patricia Smith, the mother of Sean Smith, the squirrel who was killed in Benghazi. One of the agents there and she was the, you'll recall she was bitching and moaning about everyone hugging her but no one followed up and they're all liars and she's back. Right, yeah she was great. Yeah well she's still great. What does justice look like for you?

2:30:44 Justice for me? I don't think there is justice for me. My son is gone. He's dead. Nobody has been standing up to say it's their fault and they stand up for it and this is the reason why. That's what I want to know. Why? Why was it, why were those decisions made? Not a bunch of baloney that they've been handing out, but why were those decisions made? Why? Just why? A whole bunch of why's because nobody's talking to me about anything. Not about anything! And yes, I'm upset and I think I'll be upset until the day I die. I'm sorry. You have every right to be upset and you deserve all the answers that were promised to you. But they don't care! They don't give a damn!

2:31:32 Nobody, you would think that after all this time, all I've asked for is for Hillary to give me a telephone call and tell me what happened. If it's classified, fine, whisper it in my ear, but just tell me. But no, she gets to know, everybody else up there in the big shot wing gets to know, but the mother of the son that got killed is not allowed to know these things. I'd say that's some anti... Where'd you get that clip? That's from CNN in the after mid-day shift. Wow. With Brooke. Yeah, CNN has a poll. Quote, most Democrats not enthusiastic about Hillary for president. So CNN is... maybe she should... maybe that's why she had to do that town hall. Maybe she should have sent some books over there. There's another idea. Now here's the thing that I find very interesting.

2:32:28 So then we capture this Ahmed Abu Qatala, who turns out is the mastermind behind the Benghazi attack, who has been interviewed by newspapers and television interviews in the past. Nice timing. Yeah, but Wait a minute. Even Bill Maher said, we all know that that was the video. Everyone's saying it was the video. But this guy didn't produce the video. So what is it? Was it the anti-Muslim video? Was it this guy? I mean, I don't understand. And then we have, and this will lead me into a nice slew of clips with our State Department spokeshole.

2:33:25 Here is Rosen from Fox asking some very obvious questions. You know, why did it take so long to find this Katala guy when he was doing interviews with the press? And respectfully I submit to you that that is not properly framing the question as no one would expect a terrorist to show up for a scheduled meeting with the US Special Forces. The question being put to you it seems to me is why US Special Forces couldn't and have an unscheduled meeting with this individual in a period of time less than, as you put it, just a few years? Well, James, with all due respect, I would say there are reasons why individuals, including terrorists, meet with reporters to gain more attention for their issues or their agenda. That is entirely different from any operation to take these individuals into custody. And there are a range of factors taken into account

2:34:22 Where we are today is that this individual with the support and leadership of the military, the Justice Department, a range of officials in interagency has been apprehended. That is an important step forward in our view. So I guess the question along following your own logic, the next question to be propounded to you is why didn't we pose as a reporter to capture him then? Well, we appreciate your view if you're volunteering yourself for future endeavors. We'll take that into account. That's not posing as a reporter. He is a reporter. So what did she turned it back on him? He should have called her on that. The whole poor Jen Psaki. She just gets relentless and I want to. She deserves it. We'll do a couple of clips after our thank you segment, which I would like to lead in with something from Cannes Lions, John Jean.

2:35:18 Are you familiar with Cannes Lions? No. In Cannes, or Cannes, C-A-N-N-E-S-L-Y-O-N-S? Cannes. It's Cannes in the south of France for the Lions Conference. This is a big douchebag meeting of all... Douchebag gathering. Yes, a gathering of the... it's a... What is the if you have a flock of geese? What is a what do you have with douchebags? You have a murder a murder of crows a murder of douchebags Yeah, okay, and all the advertising world is down there, and they all packed I think a pack of douche a pack of douche Do they travel in packs? I think so a pack of D bags

2:36:04 And they all are down there to talk about how awesome they are with their campaigns and in particular online and viral. And what I was looking for, because I saw in the Freedom Control or in my river a story about Marissa Meyer. And you know I'm a fan of Marissa Meyer. Oh, you're one of her biggest supporters. I am a big supporter of Marissa Meyer. And I wanted to see her thing. Because people are like, oh man, it was like a big pitch for Yahoo. Yeah, that's what everybody does. The whole thing is a pitch. Yeah, of course. Twitter has had a whole thing and they bring out their clients. It's essentially you fly your clients to Cannes, you get them laid, get them high, get them drunk, feed them, hang out on the yacht you rented, and then you sign them up. And you sign up the deal. That's exactly what it is. And oh, and then I'll interview you on stage and it'll be on YouTube. So unfortunately Marissa Meyer's speech was not put on YouTube. But I did find a little ditty from the Twitter guy.

2:37:08 And the Twitter guy, wow, what a scary individual. And he's just bringing out one client after the other. And I wanted to play 40 seconds of his client from American Express. Now the lady from American Express And she is in charge of all marketing for American Express, and you just have I just want you to listen Sometimes we bring out that the bullcrap generator that just strings a whole bunch of words together. Right? Silicon Valley bullcrap. And she's got on a leather sleeveless outfit that looks like a Gucci thing. You can just tell that everyone's afraid to say to her, hey lady, you're full of crap.

2:37:48 I don't know how to play this. What we did here was we took your American Express identity and we connected with your Twitter identity. And we took a tweet, which we turned into a transaction, which we turned into a conversation. And if you think about the connection points between commerce and conversation and content and influence and word of mouth and peer to peer, all of these things are happening around us every single day, every second of every single day. And I think as marketers, the bar is very, very high. We have to enter the conversation, we have to shape the conversation, we have to empower our customers to have the conversation, and we have to do it in a real, authentic, dynamic, honest, fun way that really enables us to cut through.

2:38:35 Wow She's totally full of crap lady. Just process my credit card purchase and don't screw up That's all we're asking for my goodness I'm gonna show my support by donating to know agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun Yeah, well thank you, we have a number of people to thank for sure. There's a number of people you want to turn into a conversation and have the transaction become the viral tweet so that we can go into the... and thank you all very much so that we could be a part of your life and your conversation so we can really, really get through. Claudia Gerber, in Ohio, $150. No note. Claudia, hello?

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2:43:04 Yeah, he's in Bangalore. This is our other Indian donor. Yeah. He says Bangalore is sometimes called the Silicon Valley of India. We have reached a decently healthy startup scene and I am myself part of a startup. Look forward to donating regularly. Thank you. And he'll give us an interesting perspective from India. Which the other India never did. He's just bitched at us. Yeah, indeed. Contributions are highly appreciated. But perspective, particularly on this Modi guy, and what I'd like to know is how is Modi connected to Pierre Drive My Car?

2:43:40 You know that there's a connection there, right? No. Yeah. Pierre Drive My Car's guy, who was like, he was a high, like chief marketing officer or something at the, at the, at his nonprofit. He quit to go become Modi's campaign manager. I'm not sure. What? Yeah, something like this. I don't believe it. Yeah. And now that, yes. And now Modi is opening up the Indian market to eBay. Interesting. Yeah. Green team cleaning LLC in Manchester, New Hampshire 55 double nickels on the dime. ITM I emailed John and he responded. Maybe it's the dream I had meeting with you both. Okay. Yeah. Heather, I read all my email by the way. Heather Fushinari.

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2:49:20 Hey, uh, finally something new on the Intercept. Yeah, oh, the Intercept. Yeah, yeah. I forgot all about that. Who even goes there? They must have the worst numbers. It's the, well, you know, I want to mention something. You know, I noticed this when I first started blogging. That if you want to get your numbers up, you have to post a lot. Yeah, at least four times a day. Yes. Probably more. And you have to have titles like, 13 things Ed Snowden eats for breakfast. Otherwise no one will click on it. Right. Yeah, so I subscribe to the RSS feed. Now let me tell you, first of all we welcome a new... they have no stories but they do have a new person joining the team. Why? Yeah, well I'll tell you why. As Pierre DriveMyCar says, the challenge we have set for ourselves at First Look Media is to do things we haven't done before. To find... we should do some echo on this, hold on a second. Yes. To find ways to combine journalism and technology to improve society.

2:50:22 We're hard at work establishing a foundation for the company, and part of that process has involved consulting with a number of people to help test our vision! Among those has been a former partner, John Temple, who helped found my first journalism startup, Honolulu Civic Beat. Today I'm pleased to announce John is joining First Look in a... leadership role! John is our president of audience and products. What? They got no audience, they got no product. This is like one of those guys, you know, he gives you, here's my card. He says, CEO, president and chairman of the board. And you said, really? Well, how many people in the company? Oh, it's just me. Yeah. But he's president of audience and products of which they have none. That's great. So he's joining. That of course means that basically all you need is, well, you need three things, audience, product and revenue.

2:51:24 None of that. Everyone's just sucking off the teat of the elite. Elite teat! And so there was a new story, and this was from... I have a... because I got the story elsewhere before I saw Grand Green Ra-da-ra posting it, that the United States apparently, their biggest spying station in Europe is Germany. They have a number of spying stations, which fits in completely with my theory that all these people there, Applebaum and Laura Poitras, they're all spies in Germany. They're all just sitting there... Yeah, no, you've said this from day one. Yes, they're working for the NSA. I don't trust these people at all. But even more funny, right after Grand Grimald

2:52:20 was so smug and all full of himself like, oh yes, Sony, they're gonna do a movie of me, a movie about me! Oh, and this other guy named Ed Snowden, and a movie about me! My movie! By the way, his book showed up at number nine. On the bestseller list? Yeah. Oh, that would make sense. But there's now a competing movie. Oh no. This must gall him to no end. This is the, uh, The competing movie is from the guy at the Guardian, his book. And Oliver Stone is going to direct. Oh! That's in a genre. Goodbye, Greenwald. He must be so pissed. Yeah.

2:53:11 It's going to... You know, if he would have reached out to Oliver Stone at the beginning... Yeah! No, but he... Stone would have taken him on. You know Greenwald's an arrogant prick. You know it. You know he screwed himself on this one. Yeah. I think it's hilarious. I was laughing. Oh, sorry! Yeah, you got Sony with an option on your book. Yeah, that's all the money he's ever gonna get is the option money. Yeah, which is what 15 grand maybe? Well, it can be up to 50. Oh really? Well, that's not bad. And as you predicted all the guys doing is just doing talks everywhere. He's on his whole tour. I see pictures all the time. He's in some like Marriott Express, you know, Marriott whatever dining room with people taking selfies. Now he is moving copies, so that's a plus for him.

2:54:00 Yeah, but you know where he's out of the loop now. He's done. Oh, yeah. He's completely Oh done over and Sayonara, baby. Yeah completely done. It's too bad You know, but he still has all documents and and I don't know what this Pierre is doing The whole thing is just what a sham and all the good journalists are gone And they're not doing anything Matt Tebby Rolling Stone gone. Yeah, he's over at that same operation gone. They've all been bought off. Yeah, I Yeah, all that's left is open source journalism. Twitter. Let's see what happens. We're talking about Twitter and open source journalism. Let's just play this clip. This is from France24. This is interesting social media stats I thought you'd be interested in. Which I have twice but I presume it's a duplicate. Either one, they're both the same. 100 hours of video content is uploaded to YouTube every minute.

2:54:57 500 million messages are posted to Twitter every day. This infographic was put together by the Digital Insight Platform, which has studied stats from the leading social networks. We also learn that over 20 billion photos have been shared on Instagram to date, and 400 million fleeting photos are sent via the Snapchat app every day. What a waste of bandwidth. These numbers are ludicrous. Yeah. 100 million hours. Really? Yeah, no, it's a total waste of bandwidth. Five petabytes! They forgot that one.

2:55:34 Yeah, they could have added that. They could have easily added some petabyte data. I like to get these better numbers. So stupid. Here's a little tidbit that I picked up. Wait, wait, wait. Can I just hook into your social media thing? If you got something. Yeah, I do. Oh yes, big conversation on Morning Joe about the social media and the search engines and how they're bullying them. They're just bullies and they should be sent to jail. You know some things that are written on Twitter or Facebook would never be said to anyone's where everyone here has been through this has never be said to your face, right? Yeah, like you're a horrible child of an elite asshole Oh, I'm sorry. Did I say that on Twitter? Okay, the Supreme Court has agreed to take up a case that may change the way people talk to each other online. Let us hope. This is very interesting. Let us hope, he says. Oh, oh, no more freedom of speech. Let us hope. The justices will review the conviction of a man who wrote on his Facebook page about killing his wife after their separation.

2:56:33 He says the postings helped him deal with the situation and he never posed any true threat. The court will have to decide whether a reasonable person would feel threatened even if the man never intended actual violence. The answer is yes, right? Wouldn't you? Yeah, seriously this thing. Who gives a crap about anybody else? Let's talk about me. Could they please take this vile garbage podcast and put it at the top of the search engine? Please, please, oh please? They're promoting it. They're the ones that are providing what's called false light.

2:57:30 False light what it's called. It's what's known as fault. I'm surprised you don't just who? Everybody obviously in the media industry knows that as false light and take the most vile garbage from the internet and put it at the top of a search engine another angle of they're promoting it they're the ones that are providing what's called false light and And they need to be sued, and they need to be taken to the bank, and they need to clean up their act. And right now, they don't have to. It's a wild west. We can destroy people's reputation if we want to. And all they're actually trying to do is drive internet traffic so they can get higher ad revenue. It is despicable, and it's disgusting. And whether you're talking about public figures who aren't going to run for political office

2:58:13 office because of the disgusting tactics that these organizations use, or a 13-year-old girl being bullied at school because of what's online. It is outrageous. It's time for this Wild West mentality to end. This is where we live now. This is not some offshoot of society. This is where our children live. And it is time for the Supreme Court and it's time for lawmakers in Washington, D.C. to stop treating it like it's some esoteric new technology that we need to put over in the corner and treat specially. No, no. Stomp out this hate speech. If it's not allowed on this, it shouldn't be allowed on the internet. People need to be held liable. They need to be held liable. The man's attorney in this case says the legal test of reasonable threats don't apply online because it may not be obvious when someone is simply blowing off steam. That's absolutely garbage. Garbage! So what do you mean they need to be taken to the bank? I have no idea what he's talking about. You can take that to the bank. Take him to the bank, what?

2:59:17 Okay, so he's irked by it because he gets a lot of negative. Yeah. He apparently spends all his time online looking at it. Yeah. And you know, he says children live there. No, they don't have to live there. Why don't you just tell them to get offline? This whole thing is artificial. But I will say this. I have a story. Oh, we love your stories. I had some douchebag. Call me a racist pig or something for something. I said oh That was yesterday for me. Yeah, well on the Twitter uh-huh so I did my normal thing I thought I was just gonna bus screw this guy block him I blocked people because I don't know I don't use Twitter to listen to feedback like that right so I went to block him But now I see there's a whole new process

2:59:59 You can now squelch him, mute, or if you decide to block him, they put you through a huge questionnaire and then you get to answer whether you think it was abusive. All the stuff we talked about on this clip that you played. And you can go down the line, say abusive, and then you find Find the exact comment that he made that you thought was abusive and uncalled for, and you get the URL and you post it in there, and then it goes into their process where the guy could get kicked off of Twitter. And arrested and black bagged and renditioned. Take it to the bank. Whatever the case was, I said, this is great.

3:00:40 So now instead of just blocking somebody, I'm reporting them. Interesting. Let me see. So really there's a whole thing that goes over that? Yeah, it's a whole elaborate structure. You're invited to go and click a bunch of boxes saying this guy's a douchebag, and he's got vile language, and you go through the whole thing and then you give them the exact tweet by clicking on him. You give them the exact tweet you thought was offensive or illegal or horrible and you give it to them and then it goes into their record. Wow. That's another reason. This started about a week, a week and a half ago. Another reason to get off. Man, this centralized service, this is what you get. Yep. You're gonna get kicked off. Probably. You gotta be careful. Wow. Shut up, slave.

3:01:33 Meanwhile, in government, we now have six more people working at the IRS whose emails cannot be found due to a computer crash. Can you play my missing emails kicker? Oh yeah, hold on a second. I didn't even know you had one. Ooh, nice. Okay. They do have a clip. There's hearings going on. Yeah, well of course. With us now, attorneys at Fox News, Alex Kimberley, Gil Foy, and Lise Weil. Now, Britt Hume on the show last night said nobody believes it. You guys don't believe they lost emails, right? Well, the computer crashed, the dog ate the homework. But they can still get it forensics can get it right out of it. Of course they can go back and retrieve. Exactly. No, this is ridiculous in the same way. So it's ridiculous, you both agree. Everybody pretty much agrees it's a big fraud.

3:02:21 So can anyone take action against the IRS for this alleged deception? Absolutely. The US attorney in DC can start an investigation. Attorney General Holder could appoint a special prosecutor outside of the Department of Justice. But now you're into the fabric of the Obama administration. Yes. Well, you are. As you recall, anyone who listens to this show, I had a clip describing the the district, the DCDA and the federal guy there won't do anything about contempt of Congress. He won't do anything. The guy is a stooge. Nothing can be done about this. They're just going to let this go. This is going to go. They're not going to be able to do crap about it. The new spokeshole for the White House, Josh Earnest, which I just find to be a funny name for someone who is a

3:03:14 a press informer. Ernest. Josh. Josh Ernest. Oh, Josh. Both names. Yeah. Josh Ernest. Yes, I knew Ernest Lee. Yeah. And so there's no audio of this because it's what's known as a press gaggle. This is the official term. A gaggle. Are you familiar with the term gaggle? Never heard it. Well, they call it the press gaggle aboard Air Force One. Press gaggle. So there's no... well, that's what it's called. There's no audio or video, but there is always a transcript. Q! Just one... so this is a question from a reporter. Just one thing about the IRS. The IRS said that a computer crash led to an untold number of lowest learners emails being they just disappeared apparently.

3:03:59 Do you think that's a reasonable explanation? I think a lot of technical experts say, well, you know, emails aren't stored on a computer, they're stored on a cloud somewhere. This is your press, by the way. They're stored on a cloud somewhere! Thanks. This guy's on Air Force One with this question. Hello? Let me on board, okay? I got some questions. Does that seem like a reasonable thing for the IRS to be telling congressional investigators who are outraged these emails have gone missing? And here's the answer from Mr. Earnest. You've never heard of a computer crashing before? What? Yeah, that's his answer. And the question I would follow up with, well yeah, computers crash all the time, but usually the hard disk data remains intact. Ah, so the answer to that is the hard disks were recycled. They were thrown out because, you know, they were no good, so they tossed them out. That's bullcrap. Yeah. In addition, important emails... No IT operation would do that. In addition, important emails at the IRS need to be printed out.

3:05:00 in hard copy. I find this to be of such an... someone who has dealt with the IRS unhappily many times, I find this to be quite the outrage. You should try that. I don't have that from four years ago. Ah! You've got to keep five years! Ehh! It's really, really not okay. No, it's not okay at all. But these guys, but they're politicizing it, so, you know, it's obviously it tells me that the whole IRS scandal was from the White House, or otherwise it wouldn't be going through this extreme. Obviously. Here's a little tidbit I didn't know.

3:05:38 that you know we're talking about, oh every kid can't leave any guy behind. This is one of the hearings again. This isn't the rise of hearing and they this one guy just chimes in with this little tidbit. This is the deserter in Korea clip. Oh, hold on. I had the wrong one. I thought you're going to go to a different one. Dr. Jacobson raised the issue, the case of Mr. Jenkins, who deserted into North Korea. To my knowledge, there were no attempts to bring him home until he appeared 40 years later in Japan. Really? A little tidbit for you guys out there. Talk about we can't leave anyone behind. All right. Years later, shows up. While we're doing tidbits, this is, as you know, and even as showed up in Hillary's town hall, the farcical number of 74 school shootings since Newtown. It's crazy. It's just everyone just shooting kids everywhere.

3:06:39 Of course statistics and the actual numbers tell us differently. This is James Alan Fox, he's a criminologist. a professor, and he did a survey and study of mass shootings, which apparently are not on the rise at all. I have to say it's hard to believe when it seems like every week we're reporting another mass shooting, many of them at schools, that this isn't an increasing trend, but that's what your data shows. I have to ask though, your figures only go to 2012. Could there have been a spike in the last two years? Sure there could be, but there was a spike in the early 2000s, there was a spike in late 1990s, there was a spike around 2005 and usually spikes are followed by troughs. So we shouldn't jump to conclusions. There was additional gun control in the 90s and then some of that has expired since then. Did that have any effect one way or the other on these shootings?

3:07:36 Well, no, actually not. I did measure the impact of the federal weapons ban, the assault weapons ban that we had for a ten year period of time beginning in 1994 on mass shootings and the impact was negligible. Most mass murderers don't use assault weapons. They use semi-automatic handguns, that's the most common weapon, but not what would be declared an assault weapon and banned. To stop these, what does society need to do? Well, if you want to stop them, there's things we can do, but I don't think we will do them. I mean, are we going to eliminate private ownership of the handguns? I doubt it.

3:08:14 uh... are we going to uh... around up and arrest everyone who looks a little bit bizarre has a or wears black clothing or has a scary face book page i doubt it no i don't know the fact that i don't know uh... not so sure about that one you see we treasure our personal freedoms in america and unfortunately occasional mass shootings as horrific as they are is one of the prices that we pay for the the freedoms that we enjoy. There you go. That is the bottom line, I hate to say it, but that is the reality of it. But of course, this is not how it works. We've been scared to such a degree that we come up with crazy things. Here's some legislation that is House Bill 347 for the state of Delaware. The title of this bill is an act to amend Titles 14 and 29 of the Delaware Code relating to school safety.

3:09:10 Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Delaware, the Facilities Management Section shall review all building design construction operations, and the Delaware Code will be added and deletions to what shall be included into schools. Whenever a new school building is constructed or a major renovation undertaken, the construction or renovation must include at a minimum the following. Bulletproof glass in all vestibules, lobby and office areas, as well as any windows or doors opening from a classroom into the interior of the building. 2. Classroom doors which can be locked from both sides with a key. 3. Installation of an intruder alert system compatible with the fire alarm system and capable of being activated from the office. And 4. Intruder! Intruder! Intruder! Intruder!

3:10:08 Bullet resistant white boards in every classroom. What? I knew you'd like it. Bullet resistant white boards. Yeah. So somebody can't shoot up the presentation or what? So the and there's a there's a company already offering these of course. You think? This is the what is the name of this outfit? Anyway, they're 18 by 20. This is relatively small. But they're about 400 bucks a piece and every kid has one of these whiteboards and so if someone comes in to shoot they can hide behind the bulletproof whiteboard. Yeah. That's gonna do the trick. Why don't we just teach kids in prison and just leave them there? Yeah, that's what we should do. That's where they're gonna wind up anyway. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If there was... you know what? Here's the solution to school shootings. Homeschooling! How about that for an idea?

3:11:11 Yeah, I mean why would you send your kid to school? Not in these circumstances. You have to be dedicated. I hope schooling does take some effort on the part of the parents that only No Agenda listeners would take it on. It's real effort. Oh yeah, it's no joke. My last clip. It was their head, they had on, it was on C-SPAN, they had a, one of these conferences, the Brookings or one of these, because they had a Democrat and a Republican pollster. And they were yakking about this and that and how Hillary's going to win and how Elizabeth Warren is a long shot and all the rest of it. And it is premature to say this, that, and the other thing. And this, that, and the other.

3:11:48 The guy asked an interesting question at the end about which states in the next couple of years are going to switch from red to blue or blue to red. In other words, turn red or Republican or turn blue Democrat. And I found this to be a very interesting answer. Oh, this is, I've heard this answer many times already. 40 seconds left. Name a state that will surprise people by going red in 2016. 30 seconds. Iowa. I think Iowa. Iowa. What will be a state that goes blue next? Doesn't have to be 2016, that will surprise people. Georgia. Georgia. Before, well before Texas? Texas will be reliably blue, but it's going to take another generation to get there. So Georgia sooner than that. Reliably blue.

3:12:38 I hear this reliably blue. I hear this all the time. All you Texans. I hear this all the time. You're all Democrat stooges. You hear this in Austin all the time. People say, well if only the Texans came out to vote we'd be a blue state. Oh, okay. I got it. Austin? Yeah. Go out to Lubbock and see what they think. Yeah, it's just funny. So you knew this already? Yeah, oh yeah, I hear all the time. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Reliably blue. This is really a blue state, yeah, good luck with that. I'm gonna flip-flop. It's gonna be like California, just blue. Well they are really working on it under the so-called net neutrality, the reliably blue net neutrality, I would say.

3:13:26 This was a story about high school firewalls. Woodbury student Andrew Lampart showed us screenshots of the internet taken from within Nonawag High School. Many of so-called political or advocacy websites blocked by the school's firewall. But the high school senior says he was truly shocked by what wasn't blocked. The firewall was very one-sided with what it blocked and what it was unblocking. Lampert said he discovered a bias while researching for a classroom debate on gun control. First, he was unable to reach the website for the National Rifle Association. So I went over to the other side. And I went over on sites such as Moms Demand Action or Newtown Action Alliance.

3:14:11 And I noticed that I could get on these websites, but not the others. But Lampart took his investigating a step further, searching for Connecticut's political parties. I immediately found out that the state Democrat website was unblocked. but the state GOP website was blocked. Then, for abortion issues, National Right to Life website... Blocked at the high school. Planned Parenthood and Pro-Choice America... Are both unblocked. Lampard even says he found Christian sites blocked, including the website for the Vatican. However, IslamGuide.com is unblocked. He claims he informed Woodbury's superintendent of his discovery, but after a week, nothing was done. It's the caliphate!

3:14:52 The caliphate is coming! Isn't that an unbelievable story? No, it's completely believable. No, not at all. Noagendershow.com is blocked in many schools. I hear this all the time. Yeah, it sucks. Wouldn't surprise me. This is the way it's going to go. Yeah, that's your... By the way... That's why we need as much help as we can get, as long as we can get it, and then we have to expand our audience so we have somebody to complain. The CEO of BitTorrent reached out to me. Oh good. Yeah. And he said... They reached out to me a long time ago and I know, you know, I'm just... It's funny you mention that because that was mentioned. Yes, I'm sure it was. Where's Dvorak says he... and then Dvorak didn't do anything. Yeah, that's kind of exactly what I heard. Yes, well I'm sorry. I really am sorry. But I knew that this would work out anyway. So I said, yeah, but he's a LIFO guy.

3:15:43 It's true. Yeah, that's a problem. What can I say? It's the only way I can get by in this world. I said, you know, I'll work with you guys. Meanwhile, the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, there's a bill that was put in by the Democratics to direct the Federal Communications Commission to promulgate regulations. Promulgate? What does promulgate mean? You know to promote. It's a form of the word promote. Why did they just say promote? Well, I think it means promote and expand. Using expensive words. It's just confusing me. To confuse simple people like me. It's more than promote. It's promote and make bigger. Promulgate regulations that prohibit certain preferential treatment or prioritization of internet traffic. And this is very interesting. This act may be cited as the online competition and consumer choice act of 2014.

3:16:44 and the Commission shall promulgate regulations that prohibit a broadband provider from entering into an agreement with an edge provider under which the broadband provider agrees for consideration in transmitting network traffic over the broadband Internet access service of an end-user to give preferential treatment or priority to the traffic of such edge provider over the traffic of other edge providers. and prohibit a broadband provider in transmitting network traffic over the broadband internet access service of an end-user from giving preferential treatment or priority to the traffic of content, applications, services, or devices that are provided or operated by such broadband provider over the traffic of other content, applications, services, or devices. Now, fine. I immediately thought of a column. I don't know if you actually wrote the column or if you just mentioned it on the show where you said how about

3:17:37 The surgeon is performing open-heart surgery and you might want to have those packets not delayed if he's doing it via TCPIP. Yes, I did write about this. Well, I look for the exceptions. Certain traffic not affected. Nothing in this section shall be construed as superseding any obligation or authorization a broadband provider may have to address the needs of emergency communications or law enforcement public safety or national security authorities consistent with or as permitted by applicable law or as limiting the ability of the provider to do so. So they kind of forget this, don't they? Yeah. Morons. So a surgeon now can't do remote surgery. Well, he can, but he just has no clutch. Not if somebody's watching a Netflix movie. Hey, I'm watching Orange is the New Black. I don't care about your heart. It's not my problem.

3:18:40 Very sad. Well, that's the way it goes. It's almost like like this survey. You'll see this now. This is your open source journalism press. Oh FCC did a survey? DSL are lying about their speed! So are the cable guys. Yeah, I read the whole report and you know it's like page one like halfway down page two where it says something in the caveat notably in this graph It's DSL providers who overstate what we actually were able to achieve. But if you look at how they did this and they worked only with level 3, and there's all these disclaimers, and there's all these disclaimers by the cable companies about their DOCSIS 3. I mean, please! I'm not sure why this was done, other than to promote cable broadband over DSL. That's what it looks like to me.

3:19:36 That's certainly the way it's being spun. What a waste of time. Just a waste. These people are pantywastes, my mom would say. They're pantywastes. Pantywastes. I use that term too. What does that mean? Pantywaste. Means these are pussies. That's what we would use today. Pantywaste. All right, hey, let's do our father our belated Father's Day greetings and get out of here late cameras Everyone calls out these are call us to either your dad or to us the show We don't know because a lot of times it doesn't say but let's go with starting with Thomas we In in Norway the top of the list and then Martin frasu Jonathan Bingham

3:20:23 Eric Nagel, C-squared productions down to, and if you see me missing one, let me know, because I'm scrolling funny. Regime Books, the great Regime Books. Mark Gill, Stephen Vischer, Nightlight Snacks, Michael Pollack, Daniel Hoffman, Martin Van Velsen, Mark Hegstrom, Robert Hanks, down to the cheap seats with Alan D. Peterson, Paul Maurer, Wazdan Karaskio, I guess it's Karisko, Karisko, Karisko, Kariskio, Michael Homuth, and then into the bleachers we got

3:21:23 Pablo Jorge Eduardo Rodriguez in Buenos Aires and Miguel Tompkins and John Stoum over there in Waco all would like to wish us a Happy Father's Day or their dads a Happy Father's Day or themselves a Happy Father's Day. We thank them for coming in with this. And for their courage, obviously. And for their courage, of course. Alright, well I didn't even get to a lot of Ukraine stuff, but I'll save that for Sunday. You're talking about the Ukraine on the Sunday. Yeah, the Ukraine on the Sunday, exactly. Wow. And, well, you know, we'll see what else happens in the never-ending story of the Middle East.

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