Episode 613 · Thursday, 1 May 2014

Carbon Overload

Geopolitical tensions rise as John Kerry pushes for NATO expansion while the EPA attempts to rebrand climate change through the lens of identity politics.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 31m listen | 37 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 613

About this episode

Secretary of State John Kerry and the Atlantic Council are demanding a New World Order as the Obama administration pushes NATO allies to increase defense spending to 2% of GDP. This geopolitical maneuvering coincides with the IMF approving a $17 billion bailout for Ukraine, while local police in Eastern Ukraine defect to pro-Russian separatists. The conflict is increasingly framed as a proxy war over Syrian gas pipeline routes between Qatar and the Russia-backed Islamic pipeline.

In the United States, EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy and the Hip Hop Caucus are under fire for claiming carbon overload disproportionately impacts African-American communities through asthma rates. Meanwhile, Attorney General Eric Holder warns of a Cyber Pearl Harbor as Leon Panetta and Richard Clark are accused of selling vaporware security services. In California, the Alameda County Sheriff faces scrutiny after a deputy struck a pedestrian while speeding, yet avoided criminal charges from the District Attorney. Additional reports cover the ban of The Big Bang Theory in China and Senator Barbara Boxer confusing rapper 50 Cent with historical wage rates.

Comedian Louis CK takes aim at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation over Common Core standards that he claims are making children cry. Benjamin Netanyahu mocks the rise of selfie culture during a satellite interview, calling gadget-dependent users slaves. The program concludes with a technical breakdown of Net Neutrality by a network engineer who argues that Tim Wu’s original 2003 paper actually supports traffic prioritization over the current metered billing trajectory.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

New Studio Setup, Universal Audio Gear and Technical Difficulties

The hosts open the program from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, noting a recent illness and the debut of a new portable recording rig. This cutting-edge setup features a Universal Audio duo-core interface, a MacBook Air running OS X Mavericks, and a MIDI-controlled mixer designed to replace a massive analog rack. Despite the investment, the recording is plagued by system freezes and software instability during its first live trial.

universal audio· macbook air· midi mixer· mavericks· studio gear· technical issues

00:00 Big Bang Theory? Are you kidding me? Who cares? Celebrating the fruits of our labor here in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. Good morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's hot as hell and I'm late and I don't know what else to say, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Oh man, it's one of those days, John.

00:36 Yeah, it happens. Yeah, yeah, it's a random number. It's one of those days where I realize man we make it all look easy. We really, we really do. One little tweak and we're toast. Also, just to catch everybody up to speed, we do have people on the stream now as well. Good yeah, but good so first of all I've been really sick for two days in bed 48 hours straight Really? Yeah, and this from allergies. Are you saying you have a cold no no I? Saturday we went to that art thing for Miss Mickey's oh you shook a lot of hands someone's know someone spit in my face You know how that always works like hey?

01:20 I know who it was. Somebody sneezed in your face or just spit when they talk. Yeah, when they talk, exactly. I hate it when that happens. So I picked up something really bad. I woke up Monday with a throat ache, but then Tuesday I was really, really bad. And then I had this whole week planned that I was setting up the new gear for the new podcast setup, which is this, you know, it's cutting edge. It really is cutting cutting edge brand new stuff that is only just now on the market. And so I also didn't sleep a lot, I was spending a lot of time getting it all configured. Oh I see, so you were up a little late, you weren't getting a lot of sleep. No, not all of that. Now this gear, just give me the volumetric.

02:07 differences between this new rig and the old rig. Okay, well there were two rigs. There's the rig at home, which I typically would use in the studio, which is I have a whole 19-inch rack with all this outboard gear. I have a separate mixer. I'm pretty much an analog guy and we like to do everything live to tape. So if you don't want to be going back and doing your sound processing later, who has time for that? We don't edit anything. But I also have to be able to hear. So I'm continuously mixing the levels, making sure everything sounds right. We are of course the... The best podcast in the universe! We have standards.

02:48 This and this is and this is what I do. Hey, one of the buttons is it's turned John down a little bit here There we go. What are you doing? Yeah that button John down button. No, so whenever I was on the road I when you I had the ultimate podcast device so it has to be analog because you can't do real-time monitoring in software. There's always a delay. So on the road for the past six years, whenever I was doing the show, I would actually have like a half, you know, a quarter to a half second delay that, you know, go through USB or Firewire, but still there was always a little bit of delay. But certainly if you want to do any kind of real-time processing, where you can actually hear yourself, there would always be a delay.

03:36 and Universal Audio has come out with a thing that is small enough to take with me on the road. It's essentially a duo-core computer in a little mini box. with all the required connections and software. So essentially my mixer, all my outboard gear has now all moved into software. I can actually monitor everything in real time so the entire studio that would take up, you know, you couldn't even carry it if I wanted to. That's how much it weighs, all this outboard gear, and it's just huge and unwieldy. Now all fits in one MacBook Air and one small, let's see, what this thing is,

04:16 5 by 6 inches one small external box and then the microphone and And of course I have a MIDI controlled mixer just to to control the faders And I have a really small one a really cute one from I forget who makes it like bows or something like a really really tiny one So this could fit in a shoulder bag that I just sling over my shoulder But as with everything with cutting-edge stuff, you know, this is the first show that we're actually using it. So I don't know how the sound is, but of course my sinuses are all messed up, so I have no idea what I'm hearing anyway. And then all of a sudden little stupid things happen. Like the recorder just stopped working. And before, the whole Mac froze. This is a brand new Mac. Are you there? Oh, I thought that was your old clunker. No, no, no, no. I spent a lot of money on this setup. Wow. I really went all out now.

05:10 Well, it's the future. It's an investment in the future. It's an investment in the show for sure. But, you know, anything could happen. But now what was your old... Portable rig was never that bad and it was kind of okay. It was the most annoying... I had no enjoyment doing the show because of just the sound. I would not be able to hear everything properly. At the end of the day I could make it work properly but it wasn't... it's, you know, it's... how can I explain it? It's a piece of crap. Yeah, it's like...

05:46 It's the difference between putting on your comfortable overcoat, you know, the one that you're used to and it fits nice and you're walking down the road and you feel good, and then some crappy windbreaker that is not working right. And they still keep out the elements but not the way you want it to. But I'm a little worried about this Mac freezing all of it. This is Mavericks and all this stuff, you know, and Steve Jobs is dead so God knows what's going on with these devices now. Well, yeah, it pays your money. It takes your chances. Yeah, but if it does work, then we could live anywhere. This is why I told Mickey. Yeah, honey, we could live anywhere if this works.

06:31 could live anywhere anyway. No, no, no. You're shittier show. No, because that's the problem. I never had, I do not, it's okay once or once in a while on the road to have a crappy setup, but to have it all the time or to be somewhere else or be traveling often. No, I need a good, I need a good sound and now I have it. If it'll just hang together, that's all I'm asking for. It sounds like you're flying a biplane that's strapped together with bailing wire. Well, that's Apple Macintosh for you. Well, it sounds good. Yeah. Anyway, so I didn't have... well, I was actually watching a lot of television while I was in bed and just moving through, you know, whatever was out there. Wow, I mean, where are we? What are we doing? What is going on? Are we at war yet? Well,

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

George Clooney, Amal Alamuddin and Ukraine Political Connections

George Clooney recently resigned from his post as a United Nations peace messenger, coinciding with his engagement to human rights lawyer Amal Alamuddin. Alamuddin is notably the legal representative for Yulia Tymoshenko, the former Prime Minister of Ukraine known as the "Gas Princess." This connection suggests Clooney's humanitarian efforts and personal life are being leveraged as part of a broader geopolitical strategy involving the Ukrainian political scene.

george clooney· amal alamuddin· yulia tymoshenko· ukraine· united nations· sudan

07:26 Not yet, but according to your buddies in Europe, it's going to be another week and a half. I think I found the ultimate sign that war is coming in Europe and that Ukraine is involved. I think I have the ultimate proof. Okay. Did you hear about George Clooney? Well, that's funny you bring that up because I know that Clooney bailed, which is the reason I'm now thinking that we're starting to see this gay stuff come out. Okay i see you have a cloning clip what do you have and then i'll roll this is just another example and there's another one i do is a print out it was in saline thing with the salon magazine or one of these magazines are going on and on about how clean is not gay which is the worst thing you can write right. This one here is not.

08:19 This one here is actually about him being engaged but it's put in such a way that I think there's a lot of innuendo here and this is from CBS's Dave Letterman. This is capital of the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still have friends in Hollywood. A buddy of mine called me today. He said he earlier in the day had received a call from George Clooney. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. George Clooney screamed in the phone, I'm what? Now this I this is just recent and I think this is the good I don't want to sound like I'm completely nuts about this but it seems to me that he was put in play as a as an agent and he decided he's decided that he's sick of it

09:12 Well, I don't think so. Okay. I think well, he so he was put in play as an agent He was put in play of course in Sudan and now he has left His post as special UN peacekeeper spokeshole, but at the same time His girlfriend he has not but his girlfriend has announced that they are indeed engaged. His girlfriend's name is Amal Alamuddin and Amal Alamuddin. Right, yeah, and she's a Lebanese. She speaks fluent Arabic. And she's a lawyer. Right. And who is she a lawyer for? Okay. With me is Amal Alamuddin, Yulia Timoshenko's lawyer. She is the gas princess's lawyer.

10:02 Okay. I missed that. Good catch. Yeah, yeah, hold on. Welcome to you, thank you very much indeed for being with us. We'll try and bring those pictures in a moment. Annal, just answer me this. Is Yulia Tymoshenko part of the solution for the new Ukraine or part of the problem? Well I think she can certainly be an important part of the solution. She's already been asked to be the leader of the National Unity Government that's been formed. She was asked to be the Prime Minister during this period and she has declined that. But obviously the big question is, will she run for the presidential elections? You're writing my interview brief for me. You've said, will she run? Will she?

10:39 Well, it may be a bit of a Hillary Clinton situation where people think that she's going to run. It's widely expected that she will announce it. She hasn't announced it yet. But obviously we are operating under quite a tight time frame for these elections. It's been announced that they'll be held at the end of May. So I think if there is to be such an announcement we can expect it quite soon. So she's intimately involved in the Ukraine political scene. This is this cannot be coincidence John. No, no, this is not this is nonsense, especially with that crooked Julia woman. Yeah, so luckily the jingle still applies. Now of course everyone is distracted by the fact that I believe she also did some work with WikiLeaks and Julian Assange but that only more solidifies her involvement in Ukraine.

11:33 I mean, I was blown away. You can't make it any funnier than that. Clooney's tired of the dying black people. Let's face it, they got flies on their face and everything. It's annoying, those pictures. You know, he could be taking pictures with cute girls in Ukraine and be there with your woman. Yes, I support what's going on here. That's right. And of course his handler for Sudan was The guy from the New York Times, what's his name? No, that whore, he wasn't from the New York Times. Was he, he was from an NGO. Oh no, oh sorry, I was thinking Crystal. What's his name? Yeah, that guy, he was a pockmarked, horrible looking guy. Yeah, with the long hair and the, yeah. So that guy was annoying, you know, would be hanging out with him. No, that guy is not attractive.

12:24 I can see it. Even you, John, can see that that guy's just not attractive enough for George. No, it's not possible. I mean, George has his standards. He's not gonna hang out with guys like that for long. But in my, as I was writhing in feverish, what do you call it? You were in a feverish, not a stupor, not a coma. Close. Delirium. Delirium, yes. That's it. It made, all of a sudden things made so much sense when you see how it all clicks together. When you see how the real problem, what happened here, and Syria is of course completely connected to this.

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

Syria Pipeline Geopolitics, Qatar vs Iran-Iraq Routes

The conflict in Syria is characterized as a proxy war over competing natural gas pipeline routes to Europe. The United States and Qatar favor a route through Syria into Turkey, while Russia supports the "Islamic pipeline" connecting Iran and Iraq to Syrian ports. The Obama administration's failure to initiate bombing in Syria is viewed as a strategic blunder that disrupted the timing of parallel operations in Ukraine.

syria· qatar· russia· bashar al-assad· natural gas· pipelines

13:18 The whole idea was we were supposed to be able to have the pipelines running the gas up from Qatar through Syria into Turkey before, you know, the Ukraine situation, before we cut the gas off from Russia. So now we don't quite have the Syria thing all set up and the pipelines are pretty much there. Right, we don't have the leverage. Yeah, and the reason why is because Syria wanted the Islamic pipeline, the Iran-Iraq pipeline, which it's all Russian involved. Russia has their port there in Syria. And so, you know, because they stand to make a lot more money from that pipeline instead of the Qatari pipeline. And that's what all of this is about. And it just all kind of all came together for me. I'm like, ah,

14:03 It's so obvious what's happening, but someone messed it up. I think Obama messed it up, really, by not going in and bombing Syria when everyone was ready for it. Well, that was gonna be a tough thing to sell, especially as it's fallen apart. The rationale has already been debunked. These gas attacks were actually done by the rebels. Apparently, everyone's agreed to that. including the international bodies. So the whole thing was based on a false premise and it was, and as we watched it unfold, we have to admit that it seemed like a panicky thing to do. They were trying to get this bombing to take place before, you know, the jig was up.

14:48 And they couldn't pull it off because there was too many people in the Congress and just here and there generally saying, no, you can't do it. Just wait. What's the rush? Right. And what's the rush argument was the one that won. Yeah. Because what's the rush? The rush? Well, the rush is we were getting the Euro-Maidan. We got the Maidan cookies, as it's now called. Victoria Nuland handing out her pretzels or whatever, her cupcakes. Yeah, that was already in play. Yeah, they were gearing up and now, you know, now... The timing was, they botched it. Yeah, the timing is all off. So the choices are Israel, of course. You nailed this. Yeah. This is a mistimed series of operations that were supposed to run in parallel, reminding me a little bit of the Benghazi fiasco, which apparently had two operations running at once. And this is what happens when one of the operations fails. Now, um... But you know, these are very poorly designed, it seems to me. Well, but it's so big and

15:45 The way I see it now, and seriously this delirium helped me a lot. Yeah, I bet it did. The Obama administration has absolutely no idea what they're doing. This is all the State Department, this is all Cary, this is the Atlantic Council, this is the Trilateral Commission, and he's visiting all these places. This is the Export-Import Bank, It's everything but the actual White House who were involved in this. And I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton set a lot of this up and they just ruined it, and mainly because they're not in sync. Now China has come out and they're supporting Russia.

16:32 Which is key because we... You know, I just want to stop you before we get too far ahead on the timeline. You have to admit that the coolest, that Putin has been playing this well. We have to throw this one little fact in. You have to remember that the entire bombing Syria thing, just at the point where they still could have probably pulled it off, was submarine by Putin. He said, let's get those, we'll help you take the gas out of that place. Yeah, this is why you read in you know, policy documents, Putin's playing chess, Obama's playing checkers. And it's true, and you're right. Putin totally came out of left field and everyone else went, oh, okay, well that's a good idea. He came out of left field, we're all flat-footed. Wait, I'm gonna ask you this rhetorical question. Don't they have people in the White House, in the State Department, sitting around

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

John Kerry, Atlantic Council and NATO Defense Spending

Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a speech at the Atlantic Council emphasizing the need for a "New World Order" to counter Russian and Chinese influence in Eurasia. Kerry issued a directive to NATO allies, demanding they meet the benchmark of spending 2% of their GDP on defense. This push for increased military budgets is framed as a sales pitch for Western defense contractors under the guise of regional security.

john kerry· atlantic council· nato· gdp· defense budget· eurasia

17:30 Presupposing these possibilities in advance apparently they don't know no they have no strategy going on whatsoever and but there's mainly there's no coordination and carry is just out of control. He spoke at the Atlantic Council. Are you familiar with this outfit? Oh yeah, we've talked about it before. So the Atlantic Council, famous for their document from a few years back, Let me see who wrote this document. I forget. This is kind of like the operation in the Rubicon series, the Atlantic Council. The Atlantic Council truly is the New World Order. Everybody's in it. Everybody's in it. These are the guys who want the New World Order and they have their entire structure set up. This document from August 15, 2013.

18:27 The line is, and this was a big news item at the time, without an extraordinary crisis little is likely to be done to reverse or limit the damage imposed by failed or failing governance in the United States. And of course when you hear an outfit like the Atlantic Council write something, you hear it say that or they write this, you want to be looking out for some kind of crisis. Oh, isn't that special? So here is Kerry at this Atlantic Council and he gets... and of course they love him because he's doing exactly what they want. Yeah, you know, we're gonna push Russia away from... because Putin is getting Eurasia set up. This is so like 1984, it's not even funny anymore. What do they call it? We were always at war with Eurasia? No, it wasn't Eurasia. No, I forgot what it was. Go on.

19:17 So we have Russia and China and they're moving westwards. And these elites are just like, no, that's not going to happen, we're pushing back. So Kerry is the man, he's making it all happen and he gets this great intro. from the the president of the atlantic council and uh... well here you go join me in welcoming one of the great american public servants of our generation of our times a strategic thinker a creative diplomat a principled patriot and atlantis is the sixty-eight u s secretary of state john kerry

20:02 So after that I thought I'd just stand up and say I accept the nomination. See, this is what he's thinking. I'm gonna be president one day. I'm the man, I can do this. Yes! Fred, thank you very very much. Very very generous comments. Thank you all for the privilege of sharing some thoughts with you at this both timely And very very important gathering. Yes, very important gathering. This is this is how I think I'm very very important very very very very So at this Atlantic Council he is Do you remember we had that we talked about the saying Bort voor je koop? I'm sorry say that again the Dutch saying and Bort voor je koop Yeah So you have a big plank of wood in front of your head and you just plow forward and you know You don't see anything because you got this big plank of wood in front of your head. That's Kerry. I

20:55 And he, even though the news media has completely debunked these bogative photos of the bearded, you know, the Duck Dynasty guys in Georgia and in Crimea. Right, who looked exactly the same after six or eight years or whatever. Yeah, but they also did look like the Duck Dynasty guys. Yes, I know, there probably was one. He still is propagating this at the Atlantic Council and this is two days ago. What we hear are the outrageous claims from certain people that the CIA somehow invented the internet in order to control the world. He's still on this, which we know is not what Putin said. He's still on this trip. Or that the forces occupying the buildings, armed to the teeth,

21:44 all wearing brand new military uniforms with the same lack of insignia, with the same faces in some cases of people who are identified as being in Crimea and in Georgia. They somehow want to assert to people that these people moving in disciplined military formation to take over buildings and then bring the local separatists in to occupy the building while they move on to another building in an orderly, absolutely discernible, trackable fashion. They assert that these people are merely local activists seeking to exercise their legitimate rights. Why don't they bring some of these provocateurs, you know, these Russian agents? Why don't they go grab one or two? Didn't they have one? They had proof?

22:31 Well, they could put them on. Yeah, well, they don't go grab one either. Yeah, put them on TV so we can see you know, then you know Yeah, take the mask off and make him speak Russian as we have made clear Those kinds of claims are absurd I'm sorry defy any common sense they defy the facts and worse they're an indicator of the disingenuous dissembling the policy of complete fiction that is being pursued in an effort to pursue their own goals and their own ends. Oops, yeah you flubbed that one, Kerry. So here's the pitch. And this is really where he's at right now. This is the entire pitch to NATO. And I didn't know some of these figures and numbers, but it's a sales pitch.

23:24 And this is what this is really all about. We know all wars are banker wars and it is of course about gearing up for war whether we actually go to war or not. This crisis is a wake-up call for us to accelerate the other work we've been doing to promote a stronger more prosperous transatlantic community. Yeah. So to start we cannot continue to allow allied defense budgets to shrink. Clearly Not all allies are going to meet the NATO benchmark of 2% of GDP overnight or even next year. I didn't know this. I didn't know that there's a NATO mandate apparently.

24:02 2% of GDP. That's a lot. No kidding. That's a lot of money. And where did they buy that stuff from? Who do you think? The French get a few contracts. But it's time for allies who are below that level to make credible commitments to increase their spending on defense over the next five years. That's a little finger wagging, I'd say. Yeah, to those countries, especially in Eastern Europe that have been coasting like Moldova, Moldova. Are they part of NATO? I think they are now, aren't they? I don't know. I have to look at whoever it is. Before you go too far, because it's something he just said a second ago about the marching in lockstep, I want to play a little, just another little more background on what's going on in Eastern Europe from my go-to guy, Bald Herbert. Yeah, Baldi, yeah. On France 24. This is, you know, this

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

Ukraine Police Defection, Kiev Authority Loss

Reports from Eastern Ukraine indicate that local police forces are increasingly siding with pro-Russian separatists rather than the central government in Kiev. Officers in the region, who earn approximately 100 euros per month, feel neglected by the new Ukrainian leadership and refuse to fire on local citizens. This widespread defection has led to accusations of treason from Kiev as they lose control over law enforcement in the east.

kiev· eastern ukraine· police· separatists· france 24· treason

24:52 his incredulity over this, oh you know these guys they take over the place and then they rouse everybody and then... I want you to play this police in eastern Ukraine commentary. Betrayal? What have the police been doing as far as you've seen? Well, listen, he has a point in a sense because there's a sense of the law and order that the central authorities in Kiev are losing control of the police throughout the east of Ukraine. When the police aren't complicit altogether with the separatists, you often see them taking a very sort of standing on the sidelines, not intervening, not trying to take any forcible actions to try to prevent these seizures of buildings from happening.

25:36 The police themselves, they don't feel a lot of solidarity in this region with Kiev. They're not well paid at all, about 100 euros a month. They feel a little bit scorned and misunderstood by Kiev. So if anything, they're showing more solidarity, a lot of the police force, with the separatists, with the pro-Russian cause, than with the authorities in Kiev. And that is a big problem. And that is what the president is talking about. the treason. He's losing control of his police force. Yeah, these guys are not going to do it. They don't want to go in and fire on anybody. The army doesn't want to do it. The police force doesn't want to do it. No one's on board with this. Yeah, that's right. But Kerry has it kind of painting a different picture. Oh no, no, no. But this is it. This is not World War III. It's Word War III. It's just a bunch of propaganda. And certainly in the United States, I'm not too sure about the United States of Europe.

26:31 But people have no idea the lies and just the bullcrap that is flowing out of particularly this man's pie hole, which is a tiny little hole. They have this new player on C-Span. Have you? No, seriously. On C-Span they have this you can play. No, I'm sorry, it's not C-Span. On the state.gov website. I got a lot of videos of him there. And they say play inaccessible player, which is really the only player that's any good. But it goes almost like full screen. And his face, man. It's like a sphincter, his mouth. It's weird to look at. And his tongue keeps darting out. Yeah, well that's the bullshit meter. And this is what I've learned from CIA contacts. Whenever someone is telling a lie, they will stick their tongue out. Which essentially means bullcrap. And he does it all the time. And if we're going to move the trend line in a positive direction,

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

European Energy Independence, Turkey Gas Routes

Secretary of State John Kerry is advocating for European energy independence to reduce reliance on Russian gas imports. The strategy involves building new energy infrastructure and storage capacity across the continent while exploring alternative routes through Turkey. However, Turkey's energy minister is currently in negotiations with Russia regarding the South Stream pipeline, complicating U.S. efforts to isolate Vladimir Putin.

energy independence· russia· turkey· south stream· carbon overload· natural gas

27:28 This has to be an alliance wide effort. Aha! Two. Two. If we want a Europe that is both whole and free. This is like some rubalization threat or something. Then we have to do more together. Oh, that's interesting. Uh-huh. When he said whole and free. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, he's warm. More together immediately with a sense of urgency. To ensure that European nations are not dependent on Russia for the majority of their energy. In this age of new energy markets, in this age of concern about global climate change and carbon overload. Carbon overload! He's just making it up now. Carbon overload. He's just making it up.

28:12 What's wrong? I have carbon overload, man. We ought to be able to rush to the ability to be able to make Europe less dependent. And if we do that, that will be one of the greatest single strategic differences that could be made here. We can deliver greater energy independence and help to diversify energy sources that are available to the European markets, and we can expand the energy infrastructure across Europe And we could build up energy storage capacity throughout the continent. Now this is very interesting. So the storage capacity is one thing, but he's looking at the new routes, and they all go through Turkey by the way. And Vladimir is right there. He's already talking to Turkey about selling some gas directly to them. This is why Crimea was so important, as Crimea has all these routes as well.

29:06 It really is an energy play and they're trying to route the South Stream pipeline via Turkey. People are scrambling. They've really, really, really messed this up. Energy mystery... The Turkish energy minister is now talking to Russia. So, you know, Turkey is not our friend in this. They should be, but they're all over the map. Yeah, they're not. They're not. Okay, let's go to number three from our friend Kerry here. Third, we have to invest in the underpinnings of our economic partnership. We are together, Europe and the United States, two of the largest markets in the world. And the fact is that we can seriously strengthen our economic ties and accelerate growth and job creation and serve as a buffer

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

IMF Ukraine Bailout, Russian Payment Systems and Silk Road

The IMF Executive Board approved a $17 billion standby arrangement for Ukraine, with $3 billion made available immediately. In response to Western sanctions, Russia is moving to establish its own domestic payment system to replace MasterCard and Visa. Simultaneously, Russia is strengthening ties with China and North Korea by extending railway networks and planning a $30 billion oil pipeline to India, effectively bypassing Western economic influence.

imf· ukraine· mastercard· visa· russia· china· silk road

30:08 to any negative impacts of some of the steps we need to take if we move on both sides of the Atlantic rapidly to complete the transatlantic trade and investment partnership. Yeah, see that's, he's throwing that in. So we need to... He's throwing, this is a cornucopia. Yeah. Speech and meanwhile of course the news came out all right so lots of chatter about a possible bailout from the IMF for Ukraine well now we have those headlines crossing the IMF executive board is approving a in essence What is a 17 billion dollar what they call a standby arrangement? What is an essence of bailout loan 17 billion dollars over the next two years three billion dollars of which will be made of a immediately available to Ukraine again three billion dollars immediately available with

30:53 with other payments or other program, again, payments out of this loan program made when they meet certain performance criteria. So again, the IMF approving a $17 billion loan package for Ukraine over the next two years. The first $2 million goes to Russia. I heard Lagarde give this tell about this and I remember when she was going on about how well you know we're gonna we're gonna do the 17 minute deal but this is nothing we're not just gonna start giving you money. No no no. And we're gonna so all of a sudden they're just starting to give them money because there is no way they could have gone through any books or looked at any details to approve this two billion or three I think she said two I thought but yeah no one one is ours.

31:40 1 billion is our, you know, did you just send a check to the Treasury? That's your money. You're sending it. Meanwhile this, you know, the Shanghai cooperative continues. I think Putin is laughing. He's cut off a MasterCard and Visa because of these sanctions. And there was a big speech, I got a transcript of it here in the show notes. He says, well, you know, okay, so you cut us off and we probably should have had our own payment system by now anyway. Lots of countries have their own. So, alright, MasterCard and Visa, you're out. That's a big deal. Yeah, they're never going to get back in. No, no, no, no. And of course, MasterCard and Visa guys were told to do this, and so they did it because they know there's all this leverage over their heads. And now they're going to forever bitch about this.

32:37 to the U.S. government. Every time they try to, every time now you get your new president, that crazy woman from Massachusetts, when she gets in, Elizabeth Warren, and she tries to do something about the credit card scams like the one you experienced, they're gonna say, yeah, well, look what, all the good you did is with this Russia thing. We lost all our business there. What are we supposed to do about that? How are we supposed to make that up? So Russia is now... Nothing will happen. Russia is extending their railway through North Korea to China. So they're connecting the Silk Road there. There's all kinds of connections, but we've always known that was going to happen and here it is. So now you see the strategic importance of North Korea as it connects China to Russia. So that's opening up.

33:28 Russia is building a 30 billion dollar oil pipeline to India through Northwest China. Oops, that's exactly what our Afghanistan business is all about. We were supposed to build all of that through Pakistan to India. We're on the losing end of this, John. We're looking bad. Well, that could explain a lot of the craziness that I'm hearing. I got a Kerry clip, but I'm not sure where it came from. But I just thought this was odd because this is one of his discussions about the Ukraine. It may have been at the same meeting. This is his Russian intentions. The Russian intention speech. Russia seeks to change the security landscape of Eastern and Central Europe. We have to make it absolutely clear to the Kremlin

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

NATO Inviolability Claims, Asia Pivot and Philippine Bases

John Kerry recently asserted that NATO territory is "inviolable," despite Ukraine not being a member of the alliance. This rhetoric is viewed as an attempt to psychologically link Ukraine to NATO in the public mind. Meanwhile, the U.S. "pivot to Asia" continues with the establishment of new military bases in the Philippines to monitor the Strait of Malacca and contain Chinese maritime expansion.

nato· john kerry· philippines· china· strait of malacca· south china sea

34:21 That NATO territory is inviolable. We will defend every single piece of it. Yeah, I saw this. Inviolable? Inviolable, or whatever it is. He, of course, said Ukraine is not NATO. So what is, where's some evidence that they're doing, and neither is Crimea. So what's he talking about? I don't know. That's what I'm just wondering, it just sounds like he's making idle threats. I think what he's trying to do And I think this is to the media and the public. I honestly believe he's trying to associate Ukraine with NATO. So at some point, if you go out and ask a man on the street, if the Russians walk in some, which I still don't know that they will, go into Ukraine, oh, we have to defend them, they're a NATO country. Right, right, so we can just say it. Or they're, like SAG, NATO eligible.

35:16 You know, you could be SAG eligible for the Union. Yeah, yes, I'm SAG eligible. We're NATO eligible. But they're not because of Article 7 or whatever it is, that if they have some kind of beef, you can't become a NATO country. You have to resolve all that. But this is just insane people who, and to me all of this means, and I didn't hear your show with Horowitz, I saw the title of it which was Countdown to Boom or something? Like Countdown to Doom or Death? Yeah. To me this can only mean that there is some collapse in the financial markets on the way and that everyone's just hustling and bustling to get something moving as quickly as possible and be ready for it.

35:58 And a war is a perfect thing to go along with that. I don't see why they're doing it otherwise. Kerry has two more years at least before he has to step down as Secretary of State and can run for president or whatever he thinks he can do. Why all the hurry? Why is everyone freaking out right now? Yeah, this rushing around. Well, we saw the rushing around again when they wanted to bomb Syria and then we see the reason why because it was a timing deal. You had all these things in play. There must be something else going on that we're not either paying attention to and may have something to do with Asia and Obama's quick trip over there. It was just a quick trip. Well, that's China. The whole Asia, the pivot to Asia is to contain China.

36:41 I mean that's just keep China back. Slow them down. We have the Strait of Malacca. We got a new deal with Indonesia. We got a new deal with Malaysia. Although not... We're putting bases in the Philippines. Why are we putting bases in the Philippines? Because that's the Strait of Malacca right there. Yeah, you're doing it to guard the area from the Chinese. Yes, yes. Hey China man, you can't come here. The douchebags of course are out in full force making tons of money on all this. There was a speech at the... what institute was this? One of these douchebag institutes and it was Panetta and Dick Clark. Of course they have a consultancy together. Yeah, Richard Clark. And the third guy, a former NSA guy who also left, what's his name?

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Leon Panetta, Richard Clark and Cybersecurity Fearmongering

Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and former counterterrorism official Richard Clark are accused of using their consultancies to sell "vaporware" security services to CEOs. During a conference on high stakes in cybersecurity, they compared the potential impact of a cyber attack to the devastation of Hurricane Sandy. This narrative is characterized as a marketing racket designed to create fear and profit from government-linked security contracts.

leon panetta· richard clark· cybersecurity· nsa· cyber attack· consultancy

37:34 Clean-cut guy. Oh Hayden? No, not Hayden, not Hayden. Well, it doesn't matter. And so they essentially, they do that, they're on the dais and it's about, the title of the conference is High Stakes in Cybersecurity. Oh yeah. Easy money. I'll play it in reverse order because we're talking about Ukraine. Just listen to this bullcrap. about why cyber and it's all CEOs in the audience and then they're oh yes well we clearly have to hire these guys because they know how to protect us and they had the whole first whole half of the of the conferences about how you've already been hacked if there are two people who've been hacked those

38:16 Those who've been hacked and are being hacked now and don't know they're being hacked. You're all hacked. You're all hacked. Because if we move to the heavy sanctions, the sectoral sanctions. This is Richard Clark, douchebag. What was he before? What was his position? He was like the head of the counterterrorism. I think he had something to do with the Osama bin Laden stuff. He was, he was, he wrote a bunch of books. He's a big book writer. CIA. Yeah. The Russians aren't just going to take it, right? The Russians are going to strike back in some way. And they can't strike back in a commensurate way because they can't put economic sanctions on us that would have the same kind of effect. So what are they going to do, John? What are they going to do? Cyber attacks. Cyber!

38:58 What they can do... This guy is so authoritative as well. What they can do, listen carefully... I would like to know if this guy even knows what a language is, how to turn on a computer. No, no, no, no. Covertly, so we'll never be able to finger them and say they did it. Now, this is the best part. So with all of our smarts and everything, Russia will be able to do something covertly And we won't be able to finger them. By the way, nice language, Clark. You don't have to finger anybody. And that's bullcrap. So now all of a sudden we don't even know who's doing it? It would have the same kind of effect. What they can do, and do it covertly so we'll never be able to finger them and say they did it, is a cyber attack or a series of cyber attacks to get back at us for the sanctions.

39:53 Attacking our financial institutions? Attacking our financial institutions in ways that we'll never be able to prove it was them. But we'll suffer the pain. Interesting. Interesting. That's the moderator. Interesting. Oh yes, interesting. He's getting a big fat check for this. Tell us, so Devote, you know, that was us. But, you know, when I was in government, we thought that the Russians were the best in the world at this sort of stuff, except for ourselves. We were number one, they were... Now listen to this, okay? I've done pitches where I was kind of the color commentary guy, you know, oh, this is Adam, he's the cute guy from television.

40:30 And you're gonna hear a pitch, it's really good. So you have Panetta, Clark is talking, and then this NSA guy, and he's the color guy. He's the color commentary. His job is to say, oh yes, indeed, you're right sir. So he's going to so the Clark is not going to say the Russians are really good for ourselves We were number one. They were a close second. I don't know Chris if that's still your view That's still a prevailing view. That's still the prevailing view see that this is the pitch confirmation. It's a pitch. It's a pitch That's right, that's right. So Panetta He is He you know, he of course has no clue

41:13 And he is able to not only turn Superstorm Sandy into Hurricane Sandy during this event, but he takes it one step further. Frankly, I think the issue of a cyber attack... Now this is the former... He ran the Defense Department, he ran the CIA, and now he's a consultant with Dick Clark to all these companies. He's selling. A major cyber attack itself on the United States is not something that was focused on that much until more recently, the last few years. Although it was raised by people like Dick Clark and others as a potential hazard, it really didn't get the attention it did. I mean, when we were hit by Hurricane Sandy in the Northeast, not a cyber attack, but Hurricane Sandy basically took down, shut down the electrical grid in that part of the world, shut down the transportation systems, you couldn't get gas, you couldn't operate hospitals,

42:15 You essentially paralyzed the Northeast as a result of Sandy. You can do that with a cyber attack. And there it is. Very sophisticated virus. Very sophisticated virus. Very sophisticated. And as a result of that, I think in more recent years, the issue of a potential cyber attack and the damage that it could do to this country is getting greater attention. You see, that's how you do it. You draw an analogy. That's bullcrap. Yeah. And by the way, they didn't shut down anything. It disconnected. The system because it was a storm knocking all the wires down that's hardly the same thing as a cyber attack number that he's in sales mode. And now let's go back to before you go on me i have to add another little comment. I'm reminded by these two guys but dick clark is the real real genius at this i mean we should be.

43:06 having him give us lectures on how to exploit the system. He's reminding me of John McAfee in the early days of the virus world. McAfee invented the modern virus by promoting it and then getting people to start writing them by doing a harem scarum kind of a newsletter. He used to have a newsletter. He called everybody up and made us all read it. And it was about the latest virus attack, the latest crazy new virus that was being written by some kid. And then that became, he managed to, it was a great job of marketing. And then he started his antivirus company. And this is what we're dealing with with these jokers. This kind of, you know, create something that doesn't exist and then exploit it. Yeah, that's genius. The guys.

CHAPTER 10 / 37 Discussion

Eric Holder, Cyber Pearl Harbor and Chinese Hacking

Attorney General Eric Holder stated that American companies are divided into those that know they have been hacked and those that do not. Security experts at the Poneman Institute claim companies are often compromised for an average of 253 days before detection. The government is warning of a "Cyber Pearl Harbor" while specifically accusing the Chinese government of stealing industrial research and development data.

eric holder· cyber pearl harbor· china· intellectual property· hacking

43:53 And you know these guys don't know crap about computers. Not a single thing, but... I mean Panetta's used the secretary all his life. He probably doesn't even know how to use a keyboard. But let's, again the title is High Stakes in Cybersecurity. Let's ratchet it up just a little bit more. The Attorney General Eric Holder said a little while ago that there are only two kinds of companies in the United States. Those that have been hacked and know it. And those that have been hacked and don't know it. So here you have our top law enforcement officer putting us all on notice. Notice that you have been hacked. You have been hacked. Now, there's a lot of information that... Hold on a second. Stop this idiot. Why isn't it with this being true?

44:37 Why hasn't every bank account, every social security number, every single piece, why hasn't the entire company been robbed? The entire country, every company, every bank, been robbed, robbed blind. Well, essentially what he's saying is that people don't talk about it. So they have been robbed blind. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but they just don't talk about it. That's what he's saying. It usually shows up in the 10k if you've been robbed blind. No, no, no. Corroborates that statement. Secret Service did a survey of companies that had been hacked and discovered that three quarters of them didn't know they had been hacked until the government came knocking on their door. So for all the money they spend on IT, they weren't able to detect

45:27 the attacks. The Poneman Institute then looked at how long these attacks had been going on before the companies were informed. How long do you think it was going on? Apparently forever. And on average Companies had been hacked for 253 days before they realized they were hacked. Oh, wow. What does this mean? What does hacked mean by this guy's definition? I mean, does it mean that somebody, you know, snuck into an IRC room? He's going to tell you right now. Okay. I'm all ears now. Companies have to realize is while we're waiting for the cyber Pearl Harbor. Oh, while we're waiting for the cyber Pearl Harbor.

46:11 Do they have this scheduled? Can we get the invite? I mean, that's a little creepy to say that while we're waiting for it. Yeah, no, it is. It's like something's planned. They attack the nation and then become a national problem. Companies have a problem every day. Every day. Companies are hacked. It's just a given. Given! Whether or not you can detect it, it's happening. And what you are losing every day is intellectual property, research and development, business intelligence, and you're losing money because they actually come in and create accounts payable and send money offshore. If you're in any sort of international competition, you have governments who are hacking you. This isn't the 14-year-old boy who can't find a date on a Saturday night. This is the government of China.

47:08 And they're coming in on behalf of Chinese industry and stealing any piece of information, however ephemeral the value of that information. I mean, right now, if I'm a CEO, I'm pooping in my pants. Unbelievable. Well, smart CEO is not pooping in his pants. Well, unbelievable that we're not in this racket. That's what's unbelievable. I know that. That's yeah, you're right. This is this is a huge racket. million dollar racket. And we're not in it. And we're not, and no, yeah, and these guys are in it, and these guys, they're just, they're just beside myself. When I think of Richard Clark as this computer expert, I just, it's an eye roller. And if you have a chance to see that video, whenever Panetta or the other guy, the NSA guy are talking, Clark is just sitting there with a big smile. He's like, yeah, he's just counting the money.

CHAPTER 11 / 37 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Donor Credits and Australian Deficit Levy

The hosts acknowledge the album artwork for episode 612 and thank the "Value for Value" producers. A significant donation from Australia mentions a new "deficit levy" being introduced by the Australian government, which the donor describes as a tax by another name. The segment includes the reading of executive producer credits and a discussion on the early end of the college school year in May.

no agenda art· 4k tv· australia· deficit levy· knights and dames· value for value

48:04 Like, look who I got. I got the former CIA director and the Secretary of Defense and the NSA guy and they're selling for me. And I'm gonna advise everybody. They didn't know they've been hacked until the government came a-knockin'. They don't even know you're being hacked. They're just selling you stuff that's not even happening. No, that's the way... that's what you sell! Vaporware. Vapor, vapor, whatever. Vapor situations. Hey, looking at the clock, John, it's been a rough show so far, but I, of course, as always, wanted to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And to everyone in the chat room who's been hanging in there, thank you very much. NoagendaStream.com, NoagendaChat.net, and thank you very much, Secret Agent Paul,

48:59 For the album artwork for episode 612, we always are looking forward to seeing what people come up with, what our artists come up with for album art. NoahJenArtGenerator.com is where you can upload and even though if it doesn't make it into the actual album art for the show, we do use it. We go back for evergreens and of course use it in our multitude of newsletters. God, I feel poorly today. Can you hear my voice? I'm straining. It's getting worse. Yeah, it is. You're getting clogged up. I would gargle. I've done the neti pot. I don't know what that means. It's like, it's a thing you stick in your nose and then you inhale and then you squeeze the bottle and the water with the stuff that shoots up your... Ah, I don't hear anymore. It sounds like an enema. Yeah, it's a nose enema. Exactly.

49:48 Well, it does help. Sounds healthy and sound right. Well, I want to thank a few executive producers and associate executive producers for show. It didn't have a lot today. It was, I said in the newsletter, we're getting kind of low. It's that time of year. But yes, it is. And it's going to get any better. But luckily, Sir David Foley came in for a second week in a row. with $613 for to become the show 613 member with 33 cents. ITM John and Adam, please find my club 613 membership plus 33 cents for your courage. Please send some of the wonderful Noragenda Karma as it always seems to hit the spot. Keep up the amazing analysis and tremendous value for value every week, not necessary to

50:29 Is this got more on here? That's all I have too. I don't have anything. I know what he's saying. He says it's not necessary to plug his 4k TV business. Oh, 4kspecial.com? Yeah, we'll just give him the karma. No problem. Here it comes. You've got karma. I don't mind plugging it, man. And then we ended up with having, because his donation last week came in like a minute after midnight. We put it on the other spreadsheet, but it came in because it's the way the spreadsheets are done. It showed up. Did you open up the window again? Well, barely. Yeah, I can hear it. It's it's. Oh, well, I'm sorry. You know, invest in a little a little climate control there. OK, we move on to Michael Baker. Now, I don't know if Michael Baker sent us

51:19 an email, let me take a quick look, because there's nothing here, it's $300, which puts him on the cusp for either associate executive or executive, I'll just make him executive. Baker, Michael Baker, here it is, April 30th, ah yeah, Michael Baker and Helen O'Toole sent a thanks note. Thanks very much for all your great work, please find attached my donation receipt from PayPal, thought better to donate and give the money to you before our government introduces their new deficit levy. And the Australian tax office comes a-knockin'. Apparently, that's like the government coming a-knockin'. Apparently a levy is not a tax. Yeah, well we have this situation in our country where a fee is not a tax. Or a, what, the Obamacare thing is not a tax. No, it is a tax. It's literally a tax. Yeah, they just like to change the name of it. All the best, Sir Michael of

52:14 Woolowin. Back to the spreadsheet. If I can just click on something that would open it. There it is. Anyway, Sir Michael Baker, Incognigro, who's also a Knight, Sir Incognigro in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, $250. This says, Bonerism, he says, been unemployed for eight weeks now. Oh no. Bipolar implosion now on medication. If bonerism hurts too bad, get on board you cheap bastards. The guardians of reality need your support. In fact, he's right. Slave strong boys, request take your medicine slave fluoride in my cup and karma welcome. All right, here we go. Best part of waking up is fluoride in my cup.

53:12 You've got karma. There you go. And finally Sir Bas Brunink in Worst. It's Sir Bas Brownings. Sir Bas Brownings. Brownings in Worst. Forst. Brownings in Forst. Forst. Forst. Forst. Forst. Very good. Don't look for a note, there is none, Sir Bass. Excellent Sir Bass. That's all we've got for our show 613. I want to remind people 614 is coming up on Sunday, short couple days and I want to hope that we get some support from people that apparently are going on vacation left and right and God knows what. You know the school, when you were a kid did you get out of school in May?

54:01 No, I don't think so. My daughter's goes to a college and the college is out in May. And then I'm looking around apparently a lot of places out in May. We just done? I mean out until when? Until next August or September. What? Yeah. That makes no sense. They're short sheeting us. But do you pay for a full year? Yeah, I guess. It's a jip, whatever it is. The whole thing's a scam. It's just turned into a unique scam. Anyway, well these are of course real credits. They are valid wherever credits are accepted just like Hollywood The only difference here is that if you want someone to vouch for you we'll be happy to take the call and do that put them on your LinkedIn account or your IMDB and We'll be thanking our other producers later on in the program. Please support us for Thursday for Sunday show at Devorac.org slash N A

55:00 And we can always use a little bit of help going out there and propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. New Order. Shut up! You know with the combination of this and allergies, I've got a lot of people telling me, you know, say, oh you should, you know, everyone has an opinion on what to do with allergies. Yeah, one of the things that does work, it's a wives' tale, but it works, my wife Mimi has a horrible allergy to acacia, which is very common around here. And so the old wives' tale is you take the honey from those plants. Yeah, yeah, the local honey, yeah, I've heard that. The local honey, so she took acacia honey, even though there's not a lot of it around here, we got even the German stuff, and the allergy went away. And then I mentioned to her and other people, there's no real honey for mold.

CHAPTER 12 / 37 Discussion

Local Honey, Hookworm Therapy and Allergy Remedies

A discussion on seasonal allergies explores various remedies, including the consumption of local acacia honey to build immunity. A more controversial treatment mentioned is "hookworm therapy," where patients intentionally ingest parasites to suppress autoimmune responses and allergies. The hosts compare these modern biological treatments to the historical use of leeches in medicine.

allergies· acacia honey· hookworm therapy· leeches· prednisone

54:01 No, I don't think so. My daughter's goes to a college and the college is out in May. And then I'm looking around apparently a lot of places out in May. We just done? I mean out until when? Until next August or September. What? Yeah. That makes no sense. They're short sheeting us. But do you pay for a full year? Yeah, I guess. It's a jip, whatever it is. The whole thing's a scam. It's just turned into a unique scam. Anyway, well these are of course real credits. They are valid wherever credits are accepted just like Hollywood The only difference here is that if you want someone to vouch for you we'll be happy to take the call and do that put them on your LinkedIn account or your IMDB and We'll be thanking our other producers later on in the program. Please support us for Thursday for Sunday show at Devorac.org slash N A

55:00 And we can always use a little bit of help going out there and propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. New Order. Shut up! You know with the combination of this and allergies, I've got a lot of people telling me, you know, say, oh you should, you know, everyone has an opinion on what to do with allergies. Yeah, one of the things that does work, it's a wives' tale, but it works, my wife Mimi has a horrible allergy to acacia, which is very common around here. And so the old wives' tale is you take the honey from those plants. Yeah, yeah, the local honey, yeah, I've heard that. The local honey, so she took acacia honey, even though there's not a lot of it around here, we got even the German stuff, and the allergy went away. And then I mentioned to her and other people, there's no real honey for mold.

56:02 No, I don't think mold honey would really be something to be too attractive, but it's it's not just mold. It's pecan It's cedar. It's oakus God. There's no honeys for these things, but people have come up I mean and very nice everyone has a different opinion You know, there's some drops and you know the herbal stuff and then there's Of course, there's all kinds of shots, which is like hormone. There's pretty zone people have Pretend isn't that a guy cancer drug? No, it's a hormone. It's a steroid. And then the worm therapy, have you heard of this? No. It's a... what are these worms? Oh yeah, where you get a tapeworm and all your allergies go away. Yeah, you eat the worm.

56:41 Yeah, I don't know that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Apparently it works. Yeah, I got a body gets the tapeworm and it goes Oh my god, we got more important things to do that should show off the allergies What are we gonna do about this damn worm in this guy? It's not it's just on the allergy man. Yeah, it's not a tapeworm It's something with an H like a Hookworm yeah, that's it hookworm. I thought it was a tapeworm. No hook hookworm therapy. Oh, I Who the hell wants a bunch of hookworms every time? I don't want to go into it, but it's just... Yeah, well, apparently... Disgusting. Apparently there's no side effects except for the first time you do it. I'm like, okay, that doesn't sound good. I'm not in. No side effects. I don't want... Sorry, this is the state of the art in medicine today. This is... How different is this from leeches? Maybe we should... Maybe leeches will help. No difference. No difference at all.

CHAPTER 13 / 37 Discussion

Older Americans Month, Senior Status at 55

President Obama issued a proclamation designating May 2014 as Older Americans Month. The SeniorCorps.gov website defines a "senior" as anyone aged 55 or older, a threshold the hosts criticize as being too young. They argue that labeling 55-year-olds as seniors is a way to marginalize experienced workers and push them out of the primary labor market.

older americans month· seniorcorps· barack obama· ageism· retirement

57:34 Hey, today is the start of a brand new month. We're very happy, of course, that the president has proclaimed this month a number of things and, of course, all these different outfits will share the month of May 2014. Are you ready for the rundown? Go for it. By presidential proclamation, this is National Physical Fitness and Sports Month. It is also Jewish American Heritage Month. And It is Corporation for National and Community Service Month. No, sorry, that's not right. It is National Foster Care Month. Here's my favorite, National Building Safety Month. If you wonder what that is. During National Building Safety Month, we celebrate the dedicated professionals who keep our buildings secure. Really, this is not helping my illness.

58:42 And we recommit to maintaining resilient energy-efficient infrastructure. Very nice. But most importantly, and at first I was just gonna laugh and make this all about you, but then I found out I'm very close to being the right age. This is by presidential proclamation. Let me read it. Older Americans have fortified our country and shaped our world. I fortified myself last night. I have some things I just don't want to know about you. They have made groundbreaking discoveries, pioneered new industries, led our nation's businesses and advanced our unending journey towards a more perfect union.

59:24 So let's kill them all now! They have raised strong families and strengthened communities, and with unwavering courage and patriotism, many rose in defense of the land we love. But that's not you. Well, they're talking about World War II veterans, most of whom are over, you know, there are not that many left. This month, we celebrate the remarkable contributions and sacrifices of our elders, and we offer our renewed gratitude and support for, by presidential proclamation, for Older Americans Month 2014. And at first, you know, I was gonna laugh and do some ageist crap on you. But do you know, he speaks specifically here, I encourage older Americans to learn about opportunities in their area by visiting SeniorCorps.gov. And do you know what a senior is according to this website? Anyone over 50? 55! Oh, that's you! Yeah, I'm five more years and I'm a senior!

1:00:24 What is up with that? That's deplorable. I don't think anyone 55 is a senior. Anyone. Unless he's a physical wreck and then he's still not a senior, he's just a physical wreck. What the president is saying here is if you're 55, can't drive 55, you're a senior. But... Yeah, that's just to demarginalize the older because we can't get nobody over 55 and get a job except working at McDonald's or being a greeter at Walmart. So let's marginalize them, call them seniors and say, it's too bad they're seniors. What do you expect? Yeah, this is just another scam to get rid of older people. Died too bad. Ah, seniors, you know, they can't be expected to live too long. Screw them. I don't know. Screw them. This is definitely a screw the seniors moment. Screw the seniors. I find it somewhat unnerving to hear all this. Yeah, because once you become 55, you're a senior and you're screwed. Where's that gonna go? Anyway, you're next. Yeah, no, I'm totally next. And I was all laughing like, oh, this is funny.

CHAPTER 14 / 37 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly, Marijuana Legalization and Senior Demographics

Bill O'Reilly recently used his Fox News program to argue that marijuana legalization in Colorado is leading to drug use among fourth graders. O'Reilly criticized the Denver Post as a mouthpiece for the marijuana industry. The hosts note that O'Reilly's high cable ratings are driven primarily by the "senior" demographic of viewers over the age of 55.

bill o'reilly· fox news· marijuana· colorado· denver post

1:01:31 Yeah, not so not so not so funny now. Eh uh Okay um the big couple let me do a little side thing yeah, please little I want to point out that the war against pot is still going, especially on Fox for some reason with people like Bill O'Reilly. This was on yesterday, I just happened to catch it, I was flipping around. And here he is answering his letters at the end where he has somebody writes in a letter and then they, here's the way the letters work on this guy's show. Somebody writes in a letter and he says, no, you're wrong, because criticizing him, no, you're wrong and here's the reason. And then here, no, you're wrong, here's the reason, yes, you're right because you agree with me. Yes, you're right, you agree with me. And then he does a slam's pot and then he does the last letters are,

1:02:18 I read your book, Bill. It's fantastic. Yeah. And he says, yeah, I love my book. I like that book. I hope everyone gets a copy. So here's the pot segment. Dr. Michael Sullivan, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Bill, do you really think the fourth grader selling pot in grade school has anything to do with legalization in Colorado? Of course it does. The drug is now socially acceptable and the kid in Greeley knows it. The drug is now out in the open and the kid in Greeley got it from his house. Do the math, doc. Patrick McCarter, Denver, right on O'Reilly, the Denver Post is the mouthpiece of the marijuana industry in Colorado. No doubt, Pat. Check out the ads. So that, now I don't know if anyone else agrees with this, but I think that this guy defines glib. Yeah, I don't, I can't watch him. I typically just don't. Well, he's the number one guy on cable. Well, in prime time, yeah.

1:03:17 I'm just saying, somebody's watching them and they're going, yeah, Bill, go get them. Yeah, have you seen the demographics? It's seniors. Yeah, they're right. They're all over 55. Yeah, it's all seniors. It's not important. Anyway, that's my little... Yeah, we had this in... There was a big fracas here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, which I think one piece has not been analyzed properly. About this Sterling guy, the NBA owner. I was even thinking of getting a clip, I avoided it.

CHAPTER 15 / 37 Discussion

Donald Sterling, TMZ Leaks and Barack Obama Reaction

The controversy surrounding Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling and his leaked private conversations dominated national headlines, prompting a response from President Obama during a press conference in Malaysia. The leak, published by TMZ's Harvey Levin, involved a recording made by Sterling's associate, V. Stiviano. The hosts question the timing of the scandal and the President's involvement in a private dispute.

donald sterling· nba· tmz· barack obama· harvey levin· racism

1:03:55 But yeah, go on, why don't you explain it and I'll tell you my take. You probably have the same take. Well, I'd like to hear your take and then if you don't mind, because as usual, mine's elaborate. Okay, well mine's not elaborate. I would say if yours is elaborate, you may be onto something, because something's fishy about this. First of all, it's a violation of some sort or other, because these are private conversations. The guy's 85 years old and he never used the N-word and he's dating a black woman, but somehow He doesn't have any, he made a big stink about her having her picture taken with black guys and posting it on Instagram. And the only analysis that makes any sense is that besides the fact the guy is a notorious douchebag.

1:04:40 But the only thing that makes any sense is that he's humiliated by the fact that she's having her picture taken with all these black basketball players and posting around as though she's fucking him because he's inadequate at 85 years old and she's a hottie in her 20s who's already soaked them for 1.8 million dollars to do this tape. All right, that is all right. I have a obviously that's not what I'm looking at. Okay, but there are some points and some people can I make one last point of course? Which may work into yours this guy is and it has been notorious for all kinds of He wouldn't have rent to with blacks. He had a bunch of lawsuits Because he's a slum supposedly a slumlord, but won't rent the blacks which kind of just

1:05:22 contradictory it seems to me and the league is known about him being a douchebag for 20 years but they haven't done anything and now they're gonna do something right I find odd okay and well there's a lot more that this this was so weird to me Let me set it up by this. So first of all, this went all the way to the president who's in Malaysia doing a press conference. Which is peculiar. Well, very peculiar. And we know these questions are not... As a member of the press, traveling with the president, going to Asia, do you really think someone just gets to ask a question that is not known before or scripted? No, they're all scripted. No, of course not. We know this.

1:06:09 So when someone says, hey what's your take on that douchebag? That's a setup question. Why does the president need to address this? First let's hear what the president actually said which I found peculiar in itself. I don't think I have to interpret those statements for you. They kind of speak for themselves. You know when people When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything. You just let them talk. And that's what happened here. Now, he didn't advertise his ignorance. He did not. It was a private conversation in his home. So why does the president say this? He didn't advertise anything. It was taken by Harvey Levin. I'm saying that specifically of TMZ.

1:07:01 And edited, his comments were of course, by now everyone knows how it was put together. But backing up a little bit, this woman, which I think is also debatable, but that's just my wishful thinking. I'm like, yeah, that's a cute lady boy. But anyway, she is being sued by this douchebag's wife, Sterling's wife. for trying to get this 1.8 million dollars back. So, you know, there's a lot going on there with the family and she of course wants to blackmail him but something happens that needs to be used and needs to be covered up. And what really happened on the day before this whole thing happened is

CHAPTER 16 / 37 Discussion

John Kerry, Apartheid State Gaffe and Israel Relations

Secretary of State John Kerry faced intense criticism after private comments to the Trilateral Commission suggested Israel could become an "apartheid state" without a two-state solution. Representative Louie Gohmert and other politicians condemned the remarks as offensive and ignorant of history. The hosts suggest the Donald Sterling scandal was amplified by the media to distract from Kerry's diplomatic gaffe regarding Israel.

john kerry· israel· apartheid· trilateral commission· louie gohmert· chuck schumer

1:07:53 Secretary Kerry saying the following. With his effort to broker a Mideast peace deal faltering, Secretary of State Kerry resorted to politically charged language when in private comments to the Trilateral Commission at a swank DC hotel on Friday, he warned Israel of the consequences of failing to achieve a two-state solution with the Palestinians. It's kind of hard to hear there, but to what Kerry said and which started to turn into a big deal was

1:08:32 Israel might turn into an apartheid state. Right, and that was getting some play and that needed to be covered up and we needed to cover that up with Sterling. But listen to what Sterling actually said in this piece of audio that came out later. You think I'm a racist? I don't think you're a racist. Yes you do. I think you... Evil heart. I don't think so. I think you have an amazing heart, honey. I think the people around you... a poisoned mind and have a way of thinking? It's the world. You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs. So do you have to treat them like that too? The white Jews, there's white Jews and black Jews. Do you understand? And are the black Jews less than the white Jews? 100%, 50, 100%. And is that right? It is the question. We don't evaluate what's right and wrong. We live in a society.

1:09:34 We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture. So this tape was taken by uber-Jew Harvey Levin, I'm just going to call him out like that, because there's a couple things you don't do. One, you don't call Israel an apartheid state, John Kerry, moron. Two, Sterling, you don't let anybody know that the Jews hate the Schwarzes. This is the biggest gaffe ever so Harvey Levin ran interference and had to do two things here. He had to one, help cover up Carey's gaffe and boy did it blow out. Everybody got the memo. We're only talking about Sterling, not about Carey. But he had to do something quick before the real audio came out. What he just said there, that is really damning. That's some horrible crap that he's saying. True or not?

1:10:28 That is like saying the Jews own the media. Seriously, it's that egregious. So they had to do something really quick to get it out, which by the way, this girl, I don't think she doesn't get to blackmail them the way she wanted to now. She's gonna be a victim in all this, I don't feel bad at all. But that's really what's going on here. And every other analysis is, yeah, of course it's correct. But you know, why was this now all of a sudden the big deal? Because they needed to cover up Kerry's incredible gaffe with some news and that's now pretty much gone. No one knows about it. Gohmert tried to do something. That's the Republican from Texas. Today, Secretary of State Kerry accused the Jewish people of Israel of risking guilt for the crime of apartheid.

1:11:16 He said that about Israeli Jews who the UN unanimously provided a nation after the worst genocide in world history. Secretary Kerry is both ignorant of history and of the offensive apartheid. Our Secretary of State has effectively cursed Israel. It's not Israel who sent suicide bombers against Palestinians, nor denied the right of Palestinians to work in Israel. nor advocated for completely wiping them off the map, nor taught their children in their textbooks to hate others like vermin or rats, nor named landmarks and holidays for murderers with suicide bombs.

1:11:55 nor launched rockets every day hoping to terrorize and kill innocent people. It's Israel that's fought against such racism and hatred. Secretary Kerry stands for those who support the destruction of Israel. He should not be speaking for this nation. He needs to stand down before he brings judgment against us. So we needed to run a little bit of interference and the president took the question. For that very reason but wow I think the stuff that sterling really said that I mean you haven't heard a single person say hey. What's this about the israeli israelis hating black people what's up with that. Yeah well there's a definitely it was a.

1:12:42 I avoided doing this sort of analysis on, although I think you're correct because the giveaway was the president discussing it because that draws attention to it and everyone says, well, it must be important because the president is the moral leader. And so if he is addressing it in any way, just by acknowledging he knows about, then you have to react to that. So that was, I think that's the interesting takeaway that you came up with. The rest of it, still carry in this stupid apartheid's comment, I don't think it would have gotten that much traction anyway. But it definitely blew it out. That's for sure. I looked at the timeline and it was Kerry first and then this thing. I mean, it was pretty uncanny. Well, you can't take a chance. You know, why take a chance? Yeah, exactly. So you roll this thing out and Kerry's reprimanded, I'm sure, by Schumer.

1:13:30 And the rest of these guys. Yeah, you think just Schumer? Well, Schumer for sure. He's the one that's the leader. And he would be the one who would make the biggest fuss. And Jack, how about Jack Lew? I was looking into this Jack Lew guy. Lew, Jack Lew, we could do a whole show on that guy. You know, he's an Orthodox Jew. He's a really yeah. Yeah, he's the first Orthodox Jew ever to be at this high in any Administration. Oh, I didn't know he was Orthodox and apparently yeah Orthodox and apparently that's wild the story goes that the president called him during Sabbath And he didn't take the call right why would he yeah, he's Orthodox you can't do that. Yeah, yeah

CHAPTER 17 / 37 Discussion

Barbara Boxer, 50 Cent and Minimum Wage

Senator Barbara Boxer made a confusing reference to the rapper 50 Cent during a Senate discussion on the minimum wage. Boxer appeared to conflate the historical 50-cent hourly wage with the modern recording artist, asking colleagues if "50 Cent is a singing group." The hosts highlight the comment as an example of a politician being out of touch with contemporary culture.

barbara boxer· 50 cent· minimum wage· senate· gaffe

1:14:19 But I didn't know that. I didn't know he was Orthodox. Orthodox anything kind of freaks me out. I don't care what religion you are. I'm not sure that the Orthodox Jews would be more adamant about the Israeli situation than Chuck Schumer. True, true. Because most of the Israelis, and the ones I know for sure, they don't even like the Orthodox Jews. No, they don't. They hate them. They think they're nuts. Yes, they think they're nuts. The Israelis are very practical people. You know who's really nuts is Barbara Boxer, your girlfriend. Did you hear her little spiel? On what? Oh, you'll love this. Suppose the other side had taken that attitude. Don't raise it.

1:15:14 Well, it would still be, I guess, a buck an hour. 50 cent if you were kids. Today, 50 cent is a singing group, right? Am I right about that? Okay. What a moron! He's a singing group. 50 cent is a singing group, am I right? The kids are all into that. What a douche knuckle. Stupid. So here's a story that you may get a kick out of that I wonder if you have a take on it. This is the story about, apparently China has banned a bunch of American television shows. And it's become kind of a big stink, especially in China and all on the online forums, especially about one show in particular. Play this clip.

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

China, Big Bang Theory Ban and Western Lifestyle

Chinese authorities have pulled several popular American television shows, including "The Big Bang Theory" and "The Good Wife," from mainstream online streaming platforms. While some cite paperwork and regulation issues, the Wall Street Journal suggests the ban is part of a crackdown on Westernized lifestyles under leader Xi Jinping. The move has sparked significant backlash on the Chinese social media platform Weibo.

china· big bang theory· censorship· xi jinping· streaming· wall street journal

1:16:05 Since Saturday, Chinese web users trying to watch some of their favorite American TV shows on different streaming platforms have been greeted with a black screen and an error message. The Big Bang Theory, The Good Wife, NCIS and The Practice have all been pulled from China's mainstream online video services, to the great dismay of fans who have taken to the web to share the disappointment. The Big Bang theory alone generated a thread of over 300,000 messages on China's Twitter equivalent Weibo. Web users say they don't understand the move, saying there's nothing controversial or offensive about the show. Certain media outlets have expressed a similar viewpoint and question the motives behind the censorship, as the four series don't contain scenes of violence or explicit images.

1:17:00 In this online article, the Chinese edition of the Wall Street Journal suggests the government doesn't like the very westernized lifestyle conveyed in these programs. Content that had apparently not been submitted for validation to the national body tasked with regulating audiovisual programs under new rules issued by the authorities in March. It comes in the midst of the massive government crackdown on online content initiated a year ago following the appointment of Xi Jinping as China's new leader. So why the Big Bang Theory? Is that the question? Yeah, I mean it's now it's possible that just this is just a paperwork issue. But I don't see for example the NCIS folks who this is the which is the top show in the United States with a way above everything else wouldn't have done the paperwork and that's CBS and so is Big Bang Theory. So the whole the paperwork issue either they drop the ball at CBS or

1:17:59 Or there's something else going on here, but Big Bang Theory? Are you kidding me? Who cares? Maybe it's because they don't want their people to know that we have smart kids? It's a stretch. I don't know. I mean, I'm at a loss for ideas. Yeah, I don't have analysis either. I just thought it was interesting. I think that it's one of those things I just wanted to throw in because it's going to, I think, something's gonna happen on the show in the next few months and we're gonna go, ah, that's why they killed that show. I just believe there's something's up, something's screwy. Maybe messaging, I don't know. There's something to happen in Hayward. I just wanna, this is, I'm gonna stop these crazy little clips here for a while, but this is a story about, this just happened like yesterday.

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

Hate Crime Reporting Act, Internet Speech Monitoring

Senator Ed Markey and Congressman Hakeem Jeffries introduced the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014, which directs the NTIA to analyze the use of the internet and broadcast media to advocate for violent acts. While currently only a mandate for a report, critics fear it lays the groundwork for future legislation targeting "hate speech." The bill specifically references protections for race, religion, and sexual orientation.

ed markey· hakeem jeffries· hate crime reporting act· fcc· internet· lgbt

1:19:53 So when you get into your next accident and you say, oh no, I was only doing 25, they'll just pull the chip and then you'll figure out you've been doing 50. And I don't know, just a bothersome clip to me. Got a lot of tweets from people regarding a bill which is, in fact, I think even Eric's tweeted this, maybe that's where I saw it first. A real shut up slave moment about this is Senator Markey and Congressman Jeffries have introduced legislation to examine and prevent the promotion of hate crimes and hate speech in the media. And I just want to clarify what the bill actually is. It is not, we're not there yet. It actually only calls for a report and adds internet to the mix.

1:20:47 Yeah, so this act may be cited as the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 and it refers to section 155 of the National Telecommunications Information Administration Organization Act, which I think was signed into law by George Bush. And what is required is a report not later than one year after date of enactment of this Act with the assistance of the Department of Justice, the Commission, and the United States Commission of Civil Rights shall submit a report to the Committee on Energy and Commerce. That's what these guys are in that committee. A report, the scope of the report, analyze information on the use of telecommunications including the internet, broadcast television and radio, cable television, public access television, commercial mobile services,

1:21:36 which could be your phone, I guess, and other electronic media to advocate and encourage violent acts and the commission of crimes of hate, as described in the Hate Crime Statistics Act. And that's, yeah, that's, of course, that's what you want to go and look up, is the Hate Crime Statistics Act, and that was signed into law in, I think, 1990. And it requires the Attorney General to collect data on crimes committed because of the victim's race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or ethnicity. Signed into law by George W. Bush and was really the first federal law to recognize LGBT. So the way I read this is the legislation forthcoming, not this, this is not, this is just a report.

1:22:28 So, you know, it's just a report to gather some data. It'll take a couple years. But the true laws will be about hate speech against LGBTQIAP. That's the way I read it. And if you say something hateful against LGBT, well, you know the acronym by now, there will be laws against that, which of course is inherently unconstitutional in the United States, but these laws are being put in place everywhere. So we do have to be on the lookout for what's coming, but it's not like there's an anti-hate speech law just yet. Well, this is kind of interesting because the, you know, I'm not gonna use the term gay agenda, but there was a screwy commercial that I saw that, this was a Toyota commercial, and they never say the word Toyota, but they do

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

Toyota, Lesbian Marketing and Risky Advertising

A recent Toyota commercial featuring two women buying a car is identified as a "risky" marketing ploy targeting the LGBTQ community. The ad uses a "trick" narrative where the relationship between the women is revealed as a punchline at the end. The hosts discuss the use of "lipstick lesbian" actresses in corporate advertising to appeal to specific demographics without alienating broader audiences.

toyota· oakland· lesbian· marketing· advertising· lgbtq

1:23:24 show the signage at the end that says Toyota, Oakland or something. But this is a commercial, this is the risky Toyota marketing. I think this is risky marketing but very interesting. I bought the car. No, I'm not kidding. They had the exact car we wanted. The discounted price was posted right on the window so there was no negotiation and just one person handled everything. Oh wait, let me guess. Honey turns out to be a woman? It was really fast. And the sale was so transparent, I didn't even have to tell them I was married to an attorney. You wanna see it? Come outside! I nailed it! Nailed it! Lesbians!

1:24:11 Yeah, lesbians. Well you nailed it, I think it's a nice setup. It was obvious, yeah. It made it obvious. So what is the point of getting at here? And there's a couple of things. One, I think this is slightly insulting to the LGBTQ whatever community because it's a trick commercial. It's like to lead you down one path because, by the way, neither one of these women look very lesbian to me. Were they hot? They were just actresses. They were like journeyman actresses. that didn't look any kind of orientation whatsoever, which I think was part of it. You don't want a couple of diesel dykes or anything doing this. Lipstick lesbians, that's what we want in our Toyota commercial. So they did this and I just thought, this is a very unusual marketing ploy. It was kind of funny but then at the same time you're like, well wait a minute, why are they trying to trick me into, is that a punchline?

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

EPA, Hip Hop Caucus and Climate Change Racialization

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy released a video for the Hip Hop Caucus attempting to link climate change directly to the health of African-American communities. McCarthy claimed that black children are five times more likely to die from asthma and that "carbon overload" disproportionately burdens people of color. The hosts characterize this as a strategic attempt to use identity politics to build support for environmental regulations.

gina mccarthy· epa· hip hop caucus· climate change· asthma· environmental justice

1:25:10 I just, I don't know what to make of it, but it just seems, I thought it was very peculiar. Well, this is just the beginning. You know, my thesis is if you really want to get people behind climate change, all you have to do is find some connection between climate change and the killing of gay people. That, everyone is, the minute you do that, everyone's, oh, well we got to stop this climate change thing. And there's... No, no, no, you... This is impossible. Well, I wouldn't say that. We have our EPA administrator, Gina... What's her name? She's from Boston, Massachusetts. She has a huge accent. And she... I guess she couldn't make it, but she sent in a video to the Hip Hop Caucus.

1:25:57 Which, by the way, as far as I can tell, is kind of bogative. I did a lot of NGO and non-profit research today. The Hip Hop Caucus, they say that they're a non-profit, but they actually run their donations through the Network for Good, which is one of those, in itself, a non-profit. that collects money for non-profits because they have the agreements with the mobile phone operators, etc. So you can't really... and of course I go to GuideStar, I look for Hip Hop Caucus, cannot find anything, although apparently they've been around forever, so I'm always very suspicious of this. But she's all in on trying to connect climate change to killing black people.

1:26:45 And she's, by the way, she's completely into the lingo of the kids these days. Hey everybody, I'm Gina McCarthy, Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. Let me start by thanking Reverend Yearwood and the Hip Hop Caucus for putting all of this together. I also want to give a shout out to Reverend Durley and everyone else at the Hip Hop Caucus's Climate Tool. Now she's doing shout outs, John. Let me give a shout out. Shout out, y'all. Hip Hop Caucus. We'd be down with the kids. At EPA, it's our job to protect public health and the environment. Too often, low-income neighborhoods and communities of color are overburdened by air pollution, water pollution, and contaminated soil, as well as dangerous floods, fires, and storms that have been worsened by climate change. In the U.S., an African-American child is five times more likely than a white child to die from an asthma attack.

1:27:41 and climate change means hotter temperatures and even more air pollution which especially burdens minority communities. This is a stretch I think. There's more white people who are in ghettos than black people. It's fact. So I don't know where she's getting off with, oh, this is only for minorities and people of color. Bullcrap! It's tough to go to school or to find a job when you're sick or caring for a child who is sick. Pollution is holding back millions of African-Americans fighting for middle class security because the first few rungs of any ladder of opportunity are clean air to breathe and clean water to drink.

1:28:25 President China McCall's closing those gaps of opportunity the defining issue of our time Yeah, so she's making the connection there and that's very poorly done. Well, but there's not a stretch I mean we surely we can do something with With the L. I'm a change killing gays somehow that that is that's the minute. That's what gets everybody all riled up That would be the goal Yeah, we'd have to own, we'd have to have the top ad agency people in the same room. That'd be a tough one. We can't even do a skit on that. There's a strike going on in London. They apparently, I have part of this, if you could want to just play the beginning of it. I just thought something was quite funny when I watched this on, I think it was on the BBC, I'm not sure. Or no, it was on Al Jazeera. Now, if you're in London this Wednesday. No, France 24. France 24.

1:29:22 This is the one though, right? Yeah, yeah, you're right. You'll be aware that it is somewhat harder to get around the city than usual. A strike by workers on the underground train system is into its second day over plans to close all ticket offices, putting close to a thousand people out of work. Now with only half of normal services running and more than half of all stations closed, Londoners have been finding ways to adapt as Siobhan Silk has been finding out. On their bikes, on the bus or in their walking shoes for the second day hundreds of thousands of London undergrads... I wish you'd stop it. I'm just gonna summarize because the clip is too long.

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

London Underground Strike, Boris Johnson and Modernization

Workers on the London Underground train system initiated a two-day strike to protest plans to close all ticket offices, a move that would eliminate nearly 1,000 jobs. Mayor Boris Johnson defended the modernization plan, insisting the city must adapt despite the disruption to hundreds of thousands of commuters. The hosts note the media's difficulty in finding residents who support the labor action.

london· underground· strike· boris johnson· ticket offices· france 24

1:28:25 President China McCall's closing those gaps of opportunity the defining issue of our time Yeah, so she's making the connection there and that's very poorly done. Well, but there's not a stretch I mean we surely we can do something with With the L. I'm a change killing gays somehow that that is that's the minute. That's what gets everybody all riled up That would be the goal Yeah, we'd have to own, we'd have to have the top ad agency people in the same room. That'd be a tough one. We can't even do a skit on that. There's a strike going on in London. They apparently, I have part of this, if you could want to just play the beginning of it. I just thought something was quite funny when I watched this on, I think it was on the BBC, I'm not sure. Or no, it was on Al Jazeera. Now, if you're in London this Wednesday. No, France 24. France 24.

1:29:22 This is the one though, right? Yeah, yeah, you're right. You'll be aware that it is somewhat harder to get around the city than usual. A strike by workers on the underground train system is into its second day over plans to close all ticket offices, putting close to a thousand people out of work. Now with only half of normal services running and more than half of all stations closed, Londoners have been finding ways to adapt as Siobhan Silk has been finding out. On their bikes, on the bus or in their walking shoes for the second day hundreds of thousands of London undergrads... I wish you'd stop it. I'm just gonna summarize because the clip is too long.

1:30:01 So everybody is that I use the word so everybody in London is you know adamant about this Oh these douchebags You know and then they had Boris Johnson come out says we're gonna modernize whether anybody likes it or not He's the mayor right of London. I see you's right. Sorry, and I'm catching myself in the fly Are you okay John you see you seem a little off like you are you do you need a breath you need to get some water Yes, so I do the clip goes on and it has all these people bitching and moaning and then they have they could only find one person and if you could go to the end of the clip to near the end and then you're gonna hear the one person that said it was okay for these people to strike because they need jobs and the rest of it and this is not a person from obviously not a person from England and when she spoke

1:30:48 I just said, oh this is hilarious because of where she's from, obviously. Okay, hold on a second, because I'd already dumped the clip out. You kind of caught me off guard there. Oh. And for some reason, I can't get to it. What's going on here? No, I can't do that. Okay. I'm sorry. It's not as hilarious. Yeah. Funniest thing you've ever heard. We'll fix it in post. I promise. I promise. I don't know. This stuff's a little weird today. Well, then let's go to the new bed bugs trend.

CHAPTER 24 / 37 Discussion

San Francisco, Rat Infestation and Construction Booms

San Francisco is experiencing a significant surge in rat populations, particularly in the South of Market neighborhood near major construction projects like the new subway extension. Residents report seeing dozens of rats at night, and the Department of Public Health warns of the potential spread of salmonella. The infestation is attributed to the displacement of rodents caused by large-scale urban development.

san francisco· rats· construction· south of market· public health· salmonella

1:31:26 Instead of bed bugs, this is my prediction, I'm putting it in the Red Book. We're gonna see story after story about this. And bed bugs, remember bed bugs? It was like two, three years ago. You couldn't get through a news story or news hour without bed bugs. Now we haven't heard about bed bugs. Okay, rats. This is the new San Francisco's building boom south of market is displacing many of its longtime residents But we're not talking humans here. These are the four-legged long-tailed residents ABC 7 News reporter Vic Lee has more on a rat infestation in parts of the city Under the cloak of darkness rats sneak out near the 4th Street off-ramp south of market in San Francisco looking for food They'll even chew through plastic trash cans to get it. How big are they? They're between six and eight inches long dark-colored

1:32:18 you know, mangy looking, not the kind of rats you'd want to hold. People in the neighborhood say the rat population boomed two years ago when work started on a new subway extension. Over here, across the street, they come out late at night. But it's just one of many major construction projects in the neighborhood now. I mean, you see little things off in the peripheral scurrying around. We went looking for rats around the city and we found them all over the place. Now, at the South of Market off-ramp, we found a thriving infestation. Not only were there dozens of adult rats, but babies as well. So you see once in a while a couple now like the other night I swear to God I must have seen 50 of them. Exaggerating? No, I'm not exaggerating. I kid you not. They were just coming out of these garbages like it was nuts. It was like a waterfall full of rats.

1:33:05 Hernandez is even worried the rats will hitch a ride home with him to San Mateo. I don't want to get bitten by one. I suppose they take one home and they keep it in the house and they bite somebody else in the house. Go down the street, open up the hood, check inside, make sure there's nothing in there. Johnson Ojo is with the San Francisco Department of Public Health. He says rats are just part of urban life and they show up all over the city. Left unchecked, they can spread bacteria like salmonella. When you drink water food that is contaminated by rat feces you're more likely to get the bacteria also. Okay, stop this thing. Meanwhile they had the head of the Department of Health is some guy from Africa? Where's he from? Johnson Ojo? I think that's a Kenyan.

CHAPTER 25 / 37 Discussion

Twitter Financial Losses, USAID Global Development Lab

Twitter continues to report significant financial losses, leading to speculation about its long-term viability as a private company. Meanwhile, USAID has launched the "Global Development Lab," a $1 billion incubator for technology and development. The hosts suggest that because Twitter is used as a strategic communication weapon by the State Department, the government may eventually find ways to subsidize or take over the platform.

twitter· usaid· global development lab· venture capital· state department

1:33:54 I just thought that was weird. Whatever the case, this rat, I'm predicting more and more stories about rats. Do you think that's a real issue? That this is a real problem? It's always been a problem in San Francisco. Really? Yeah. I thought Twitter was the only rat problem you had. Well, there's that. Those guys are going fast nowhere, or nowhere fast, I should say. It seems to be, yeah. Well, they don't have a business model. No, they lose money. Yeah, they lose money. I was thinking about this, not that we want to talk about tech. Yeah, we do. We can. Yeah. What happens, I mean if Twitter just keeps losing money and losing money, they don't have the kind of play that Amazon does. Amazon has a lot of fireworks and they make it look great even if they lose money, they're doing great. Twitter doesn't, it's pretty much what we get is they're gonna have to do something drastic to get any sort of revenue to break even but let's say they never do it, they can't pull it off.

1:34:51 And people start bailing out. What alternative, because the idea of Twitter is now in the public consciousness, where you have a giant forum that is set up exactly the way Twitter is, which is followers and people you block and all the rest. What takes its place? I don't think anything takes its place. I think it'd be, well, I think either, well, the government takes over. That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, no, I think so. You sent me, I think it was an email from the USAID about the Global Development Lab, which is essentially a venture capital company, an incubator if you will, paid for by the US government with a fund of $1 billion. $1 billion!

1:35:48 Nice fund. Right, I'm thinking these guys will either recreate Twitter or buy it or buy some assets or something. To me it seems like that's the obvious. What's not so apparent or obvious is why the hell is the US government making, why are they running an incubator? Well, let's think about the Twitter thing first. Twitter is used by the State Department as a weapon. So you might be right, the government could take it over or at least phony up some way of funneling money into it to keep it going because it's very valuable. It's a very valuable weapon. Very easy to do if you just follow all the NGOs, very easy to funnel money in. Very easy. But you know the NBC Universal executives are saying, yeah, Twitter doesn't really work. The Financial Times had this report.

1:36:43 said Alan Wurzel, who does all the ratings, he says, yeah, it may sound great, but we really can't point to Twitter helping us with the ratings. So that was kind of what Twitter was hoping was going to be their place, was that, you know, along with the, you know, be the roving screen as a part of television, and it's just not working. And now NBCUniversal is saying this. Well, one of these days they're going to say the same thing about almost all these social things. Of course! None of them work. Once everyone figures out that Facebook's revenue comes from people accidentally clicking on ads... Oh shit, on mobile... No, it's all going to go away, John. You and I will witness that. We're still young enough, even though we're seniors by the US government standards. We will witness that. I'm convinced of it. Well, these things don't last that long before they... The cycles are short.

CHAPTER 26 / 37 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu, Selfie Culture and Gadget Slavery

During a behind-the-scenes moment before a satellite interview, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu criticized production crew members for their obsession with taking "selfies." Netanyahu mocked the need to document every moment with electronic devices, declaring himself a "free man" while calling those dependent on their gadgets "slaves."

benjamin netanyahu· israel· selfies· smartphones· slavery

1:37:36 In tech, they always have been. It's never been, you know, even the Sony Walkman. How long was that around? Like the big thing, everyone had one and then the next thing you know it doesn't exist anymore. Well, this is where the Freedom Controller comes in. This is what I've been building for years. So there is a way to do this and there is a way to do it decentralized. You know, but will it catch fire? Will all the stupid slaves understand it? Unlikely. No, it's not possible. It was funny, Bibi Netanyahu was, he was waiting for some, I think he was doing a satellite thing. So he's the prime minister of Israel. And so you always have to be very careful before a satellite interview because people are recording what you're saying. Yes. And he goes off on the crew and he's saying, what are you doing? And saying, well, taking a selfie.

1:38:29 And a lot of it's in Hebrew, so I cut that part out, but he's funny. He goes back and forth between Hebrew and English. And he's like, well, why are you doing that? I said, well, because you... and this is the camera guy or gal, you know, someone from the production crew off-camera, they're saying, well, you know, if you don't take a picture, then, you know, you can't really prove that you did this. And he's like, this is nuts. I've never had to do this. Live a little. Just live your life. This is crazy. You don't need to prove picture. What are you doing with the picture? He's going off. And then he winds up with this gem of a line. So I'm the only person here? One minute. Without all these electronic devices, okay. I'm a free man and you're all slaves You're slaves to your gadgets Your slave I couldn't care less your slaves He just rose 15 points in my book. Yeah, I've given him a full credit for that idea and you can be rest assured that Dick Clark feels the same way. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

CHAPTER 27 / 37 Discussion

NYC, FEMA Shipping Container Housing

New York City's Office of Emergency Management, with $1.5 million in FEMA funding, has unveiled a prototype for post-disaster housing made from stacked shipping containers. The units are designed to house displaced New Yorkers either temporarily or permanently following natural disasters. The hosts describe the project as a grim vision of future urban living conditions.

new york city· fema· shipping containers· disaster housing· urban post-disaster

1:39:33 Speaking of slaves in New York City, they've come up with a genius idea I'll play the clip and then I'll tell you what I think is really going on behind me here at the city's office of emergency management Construction is taking place on a project that will potentially help with thousands of people who've been displaced from their homes after a natural disaster It's called the urban It's a post-disaster housing prototype and it's a 1.5 million dollar project being funded by FEMA and the city. This will be the first shipping container based model of its kind in the country that will serve to house New Yorkers either temporarily or permanently should they be displaced from their homes after a natural disaster. So they've got these shipping containers.

CHAPTER 28 / 37 Discussion

MH370 Conspiracy Theories, Sarah Bajc and Remote Control

The search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 continues with frequent media appearances by Sarah Bajc, the partner of a passenger on the plane. Bajc's use of technical jargon like "leverage of assets" has led to speculation that she may be an intelligence asset. Discussion also touches on theories that the Boeing 777's fly-by-wire system could have been taken over via remote control using classified patents.

mh370· sarah bajc· cnn· boeing 777· fly-by-wire· remote control

1:40:15 And they're stacking them up and they're putting four people to a container. New Yorkers, welcome New Yorkers, this is your new life. That's your new life, exactly. That's your new life. Quick update before we go into our little thank you segment here. On Malaysian Airways flight MH370, CNN's still all over it, although it's a little bit less now because luckily they had, you know, some other like racism to talk about. Sarah Bajek is still the go-to gal, but she's slipping up really bad now. Oh, this is the woman who, yeah, okay. Yeah, so this is who we believe is an asset, a CIA or some agent whose job it is to go on every single television station and talk about this aircraft. Now, there's this new outfit, and I haven't really delved into it too much, but this company that apparently

1:41:11 has located something. This is what they do for oil and gas exploration. They've located something that has the dimensions of an aircraft at the bottom of the sea, and it could be in a spot that makes sense, but it's 3,000 nautical miles away from where anyone was searching, and doesn't really look like anyone wants to go and take a look. Now one of the main conspiracy theories that, and we haven't really talked about that too much here, because as far as I'm concerned, I don't even know if this plane crashed, One of the main conspiracy theories is that this aircraft was taken over by remote control, as the 777 does have a fly-by-wire system. It could be, it is, I guess, technically comprehensible that it could happen. And there's all kinds of websites that talk about patents that Boeing has that have been classified by the United States military.

1:42:03 And I didn't give much credence to these theories until I heard Sarah Bajak on, and this was I guess yesterday or two days ago, on with Aaron Burnett, and she said something in this little piece here. that made me think, well hold on a second, if our go-to girl is saying these things, what might really be true? Well it does feel that way, but I also understand it. I mean the likelihood of there still being floating debris is pretty small and I would rather see those assets used in some other way. However, the pullback in general on a global level of pursuing finding this plane is troublesome because this is still a very serious

1:42:44 security concern for every single person who gets on an airplane. Really? Why is that a securities concern for every single person who gets on an airplane? Hmm. It's interesting that you read that into that. Well, what else could it be? What is the issue? Of course when you get on an airplane anything can happen, but she's... I don't know. But then, just to give me a little more juice, just listen to the word she uses and tell me this woman is not Some agent of some agency or just I mean just listen to what she's talking about. Well, I hope it is not the plane But I do believe it's worth looking into. I mean we're talking about you know, either an Indian or a Chinese Navy vessel with some sort of sonar capability to go to that spot. It's only about a two-hour Distance from the coast of Bengal. It is not a huge leverage of assets. I

1:43:42 But it would confirm or deny a reasonably plausible lead. It's not a huge leverage of assets. Yeah, this is how I talk all the time when I'm... Nobody says that unless they're working in some agency and they're hearing that kind of chat all the time. Leverage of assets. Why would some woman out of the blue, who supposedly is only on the air because she had a loved one on the plane... Her partner. Her partner. Talk like this. You're right. Very bad giveaway. These people need to be trained better. They need to call the Curry Devorah Consulting Group. How many times can I say it?

CHAPTER 29 / 37 Discussion

Producer Donations, De-douching and Global Credits

The hosts read a series of donations from listeners in California, the UK, and Idaho, providing "de-douching" and "karma" in exchange for financial support. One donor from Greater Manchester mentions quitting a job due to "douchebags," while another from Idaho calls out specific individuals as "boners." The segment reinforces the show's "Value for Value" funding model.

donations· paypal· burlingame· manchester· idaho· value for value

1:44:35 We have a few people to thank for show 613. To remind people that we got show 614 coming up, go to Dvorak.org slash NA and we can bring up our donations a little bit. Adam Bosley in Burlingame, California, $127.11. That's an adjustment for PayPal fees. First donation after a year of habitual listening. I got my first paid design gig. And he wants a de-douching in karma for those who haven't received or who haven't donated. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. There you go. Gregory Ball in Atherton, Great Manchester, UK, 125-33, and he's lucky enough to get a producership in 571 and ended up quitting his job.

1:45:21 Because douchebags are moving from Walsen to Manchester. Anyways, on his way to night, we're just going to get through some of these. Diane Nybo in Athol, Idaho. Hey, Athol! $111. We'll get your de-douching at the end, but we do have to call out Ross and Jerry as boners. That's what her message says, which I think requires a douchebag. Franklin Kuzenski, Racine, Wisconsin $101.01. E Paggio Limited London, UK $100.00. Paul Levy $76.20 in Grinnell, Iowa.

1:46:09 Frank Pugh in Tallahassee Florida $75.6969 from Carl Boshits. That's over now. The $69.69. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Carly for one thing, not Carl. Carly and his Boshits. What do you think? I don't know. Boschitz. I don't know. Boschitz. Boschitz. Boschitz. I got the Boschitz, man. Alright, she's in the UK. She's in Holland. Samuel Brown, West Winfield, New York, another 69. Ternosa. Ternosa. Ternosa. Ternosen.

1:46:48 David Helman, Fargo. Did you get Samuel Brown? We skipped him. Samuel Brown in West Winfield, New York, 69-69. Fargo, North Dakota, David Helm, Alan Bowes in Langley, British Columbia, 66-66. Mats Kjæsrud. Kjæsrud. Kjæsrud. Kjæsrud. Mats Kjæsrud in Spijderberg, Norway, 63-64. Uh, he said I was great on Twit. Really?

1:47:24 That's what he said. Well, I think it was hard for you this last episode. Well, I was surrounded. Yeah, you were surrounded by... I felt like I was the one Indian that was surrounded by custard. You were surrounded by incompetence is what it was. First ball in Chicago, Illinois, 60 bucks. Vassal Daniel Torellio in Charleston, South Carolina, 5678. Jesse Simonin, 50 double nickels on the dime. Josh Mandel, Greenville, South Carolina, double nickels on the dime. He needs to, he has some note here. Matthew Crowey, Cowie, Matthew Cowey, sorry, Sowie in Bourbonais, Illinois, which I'm sure the way they pronounce it there would be Bourbonais.

1:48:22 The one that goes on and I'm Andy Benz in St. Louis, Missouri. Tanya Salander in Montreal, Quebec, 5420. Andrew Lemensany in Colorado. Lemensany. Lemensany. I always say that, don't I? Sorry for me not to say Lemensany, but it's Lemensany. In Colorado Springs, 5420. Eric Hochel in Berlin, Deutschland, $52. And finally, a couple of leftovers. Peter Tangney in Randolph, Massachusetts, 51-52. Cheryl Skar or Skari in Sacramento or Sacra Tomato, California, 51-50. Sir Kevin Payne, Richmond, Virginia, 50-69. Adrian Cooper, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 50-42. Max Turnquist in Roxbury, Massachusetts,

1:49:15 $50.33 and these are all $50 donors. Our buddy Greg Brunsell, Sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Sean Clunk, parts unknown. David Durrell in Fort Royal, Virginia. Sebastian Ulscher in Frankfurt, Deutschland. Thank you, Germany. Scott Hamilton in Fair Play, Maryland. And finally, good old William Bauman in Port Hueneme, California. We did have a few notes just mostly telling us how they love the show. Nothing, let's see what we got. Scott Hamilton, a large note, let me read that. In close, please find my initial donation. This is his first donation for the valuable work we do. The Noah Jendis Show, twice a year, I have to thank my 17-year-old son, Matthew, of whom I'm most proud for his ability to think for himself, for hitting me in the mouth last June when we started listening to your show together on our daily drives to his college for summer classes.

CHAPTER 30 / 37 Discussion

Club 33, Audio Production and Jennifer Briney

A highly produced audio segment titled "Club 33" features a chaotic mix of screams, police sirens, and helicopter sound effects, simulating the "burning down" of a fictional club. The production included voice contributions from Jennifer Briney of Congressional Dish and the host's wife, Miss Mickey. The hosts joke that the intense audio caused listeners to flee the live chat room.

club 33· jennifer briney· miss mickey· audio production· grand theft auto

1:50:12 Your podcast has made me laugh almost as much as it made me think and my life is richer for it. As much as your show has done for me, it has done even more to help me relax about the future of our nation. Why? Because we are passing the baton to young people like my son who will not be shackled or stifled and will ask questions and demand answers. We need more people like you guys and my son is one of them. That's very nice. They got a tough road ahead of them though. I'll tell you that. Especially with this common core stuff. Now, we didn't get a donation for the Club 33. We did reopen the club. Oh, okay. Hold on a second. This is news. Wait, wait, let's get this. We'll do it right after the whole segment's over. I recorded the entire, I would call it a situation and you're just going to have to listen to it and figure out, you know,

1:51:02 It's not good news necessarily, but it's interesting. Okay, so what you're saying is we now have something that we rarely do on this program, a complete production. Ladies and gentlemen, I present you with... Are you ready for it? Yeah, let's do it. Club 33. One that'll take a bow. Gina, Raina, Tony, Lisa, Newton, Stockholm, Jessica, Maxwell, Megan, Naomi of Oregon, Gina, Bina, Jenny, Patricia, Simon, Nicole, and Citizen X, get up there. Patricia, beautiful Tracy, Jamie, Yuki, Angel, and Dasha, Missy and Joanne, Debbie's girls, Buck, Randy, Hillary, Clinton, and Chelsea, with Christine Lagarde,

1:52:06 They're not making it. And Nicola, get up on stage ladies and let's roll out a round of applause for these beloved women and bring them out on stage. Let's begin with Gina and Ray Holt. Hey, no fighting in the club. No fighting in the club. No fighting in the club. Some cops and they want to see the owner. Hey! Hey you! Some cops out here and they want to see the owner.

1:52:51 You're shooting! You're shooting! Please proceed quietly to the exits. Please proceed quietly to the exits. Please proceed quietly to the exits. Some planes have been delivered to Moscow.

1:54:47 That was, uh... so realistic. Wow. I have to give it to you for sure, there's no doubt about it. You are your own Grand Theft Auto 5 1⁄2 here.

1:56:14 Pretty much, yeah. That pretty much wraps up the Club 33 for good, I'm sure. People actually left the chat room while that was playing. It was burnt to the ground, what am I supposed to say? People are actually like, what is this? I'm leaving, I'm out of this show. They're actually leaving the show. Yeah, well, screw them. That was good. Good work. Well, thank you everybody. I want to also thank Dame Tanya for contributing it with a couple of her friends, the Screams and some of the other things, and also Jennifer Briney. Oh, from Congressional Dish. Yes, she has a microphone, so I said, can you do this? And she gave me, I wrote a script and she put it in. And did you use Miss Mickey? I couldn't hear her. And Miss Mickey was right at the beginning. She said, what's going on? Oh, that's what's going on here. That was her. And she also had a couple little things you couldn't hear because a lot of it was just under... Well, it was highly produced, so it was all mixed in. It was... Yeah, it was like lots of dimensionality. Yes. Oh, dimensionality to the max. Yeah.

1:57:15 Well, thank you everybody for it. No wonder donations are down. What are we doing? Good work John. That was funny. I like that a lot. It was very real. I tell you, very realistic. A lot of noise. Choppers, a lot of stuff going on. Thank you all so much for supporting the show. We could do a lot better on Sunday. We have to, quite frankly. And I'm also going to be working like a dog for the next couple of days figuring out why stuff is crashing and why stuff is bogging out. But, it's what we do. And you can support us by going to... Dvorak.org slash N-A-M-E

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

Net Neutrality, Network Engineering and Metered Service

A network engineer provides a detailed critique of "Net Neutrality," arguing that treating all data packets equally is technically negligent. The engineer explains that traffic shaping and prioritization are essential for network performance, particularly for time-sensitive data. The hosts argue that the push for neutrality will inevitably lead to metered internet billing and play into the hands of large providers like Google.

net neutrality· cisco· quality of service· traffic shaping· metered internet· google

1:57:56 And Rob Boersma says happy birthday to Stefan Claessens, celebrated on the 29th, as does Eric, who gets happy birthday wishes from Kitty. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe, the No Agenda Show! And as you already guessed, no title changes, no nightings, no nothing. I'm just glad I'm barely alive here. Yeah, I feel like we need to continue discussing the net neutrality stuff a little bit seeing as you

1:58:37 Well, you saw how people think about this. Yeah, this is what they think. And the first thing, I got a pretty cool note. I will admit that I dropped the ball because I was getting some of your messages and then I missed the one I should have gotten. I was on the Twitch show and we discussed this and there was, you know, I was the idiot that, and you tell me the chatroom, Dvorak is an idiot. Yeah. He doesn't know what he's doing. And I really missed it because one of the things that I've been arguing about for years is, and I dropped the ball, I admit it, when Leo brought up, he says, well the internet should be like a utility. Yeah, that should be metered. And I dropped the ball because I have always argued that the internet should be metered. Yeah.

1:59:21 And Leo's always said the internet should never be metered. But now here he is, he hands me this, he tosses me this softball and I was just beside myself. You blew it, you blew it. And I was on my deathbed. I swung and missed. I know, I know, it's alright. I was on my deathbed. Actually I didn't even swing. The ball went right by. Strike. I was on my deathbed texting you like, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz So our, and we're in agreement on this, our thesis is network neutrality is, first of all, it's just a buzzword. Oh man, there's these outfits. What is this one that I found the other day? Fight for the future. You should, I received an email from Kevin from Fight for the Future. I have no idea how it got on this list.

2:00:09 Hi, hey, Kevin from Fight for the Future. I noticed you haven't signed this important petition yet. Will you stand up for net neutrality? Last week, FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler announced a proposal for new rules that would allow for a fast lane of internet traffic for content providers. And so we keep on going, this whole thing about how horrible it is. And do you want to support us in the fight for net neutrality? Donate $15 today. That's fightforthefuture.org. And I go looking for who this is. And of course it's not really an org. Fight for the Future was established in late 2011 under the legal name Center for Rights in Action with seed money from the Media Democracy Fund. Are you with me, John? I'm following you. So I'm looking up all these different... and so Center for Rights in Action also doesn't exist. None of these have filed any kinds of paperwork, but it eventually leads back to the Proteus Fund. And the Proteus Fund

2:01:09 Throughout our history, Proteus Fund has managed and provided a range of services to family foundation clients. These foundations turn to us because we provide a personalized approach and scope of work tailored to their specific goals and support needs. So the way this works is families, and now we don't know which families because no one has to disclose this on any of this paperwork, They funnel money through the, what is it, the media democracy fund who then give it to the Center for Rights in Action who then give it to Fight for the Future which is essentially two people with a hundred thousand dollars between them to split to go and send emails all day. This non-profit work is bogus and it's very very annoying because you can't find out who is actually behind this stuff and who is pushing this. But luckily

2:02:03 When John and I take our stance saying, you know, you may not want to be all in on this network neutrality because it may get you exactly what the ISPs want, which is metered service. And I got a first, Mike D, one of our producers, he says, Adam, I'm a network engineer, Cisco certified professional. I know about quality of service, traffic, traffic shaping, packet queuing, prioritization. I can explain how to implement them on routers and switches using access list. traffic classes, policy maps, but I won't. It's boring. Suffice to say I know a little bit about this stuff. I didn't specialize in this area during my first 15 years in IT, but I can confidently say that most people who don't specialize in it don't understand it at all because I was one of them. Being good with other techie things or knowing how to configure your home router does not even come close. Anybody who would suggest that, quote, all bits should be treated equally is deeply ignorant of networking and should would be better served to take some classes rather than spouting such nonsense.

2:03:00 If I continue their stupid analogy about roads, it would be like arguing that all traffic should drive the same speed, whether it's a semi or an ambulance or whether it's through a residential zone or on a highway. It's ignorant nonsense and I don't want to propagate the stupidity. Traffic shaping protocols exist for a reason. They are created to improve the performance of a network. Time-sensitive traffic should be prioritized over traffic that is not. Bandwidth-hogging traffic should be rate-limited and segmented from other traffic so that everything performs better. Failure to do so is negligent and wasteful and increases the amount of congestion. None of these protocols were developed to make someone's experience worse and to suggest that they will is ignorant nonsense.

2:03:42 All of these methods are standard practice in a corporate network. If I went to my bosses and insisted that all packets should be treated the same, I would be fired. If our CTO instituted a policy of net neutrality and proposed buying more hardware to solve the congestion instead, he would be fired. Anyone who argues that carriers and ISPs should not be allowed to use protocols and best practices of network engineering and traffic shaping should be fired. Or at least shut up until they know what they're talking about. Thank you for the long rant. Thank you for your courage. Now, so this is someone who knows what they're talking about. And by the way, if we're talking about net neutrality, why isn't it bi-directional? I don't hear anyone talking about that. If you really want all packets to be equal, why can't I run a server? You don't hear anyone talking about that, do you? They're only thinking about their Netflix. That's what the net neutrality Nazis are thinking about, is only the downstream. Because you're playing into actually Google's cards, I believe.

CHAPTER 32 / 37 Discussion

Tim Wu, 2003 Net Neutrality Paper and Price Discrimination

An examination of Tim Wu's original 2003 paper on Net Neutrality reveals that the concept's creator acknowledged the necessity of "close vertical relationships" between ISPs and content providers. Wu's early work suggested that true application neutrality might require upgrades that are impractical without some form of managed service. The hosts argue that modern activists have misinterpreted Wu's original technical framework.

tim wu· net neutrality· 2003· broadband· price discrimination· quality of service

2:04:41 But Tim Wu is the guy who came up with the term net neutrality. And I figured I'd do something completely radical and I'd pull his original document from 2003 where he said we need net neutrality and what he said that was. Is that a crazy idea for me to do that, John? That's nuts! I mean, isn't that just... you wouldn't expect anyone to do that, particularly not a journalist. There is reason to believe that open access alone can be an insufficient remedy for the likely instances of network discrimination. The basic principle behind a network anti-discrimination regime is to give users the right to use non-harmful network attachments or applications and give innovators the corresponding freedom to supply them. On the whole, evidence suggests that the operators often pursue legitimate goals such as price discrimination and bandwidth management.

2:05:39 In short, the recent historical record gives good reason to question the efficacy of self-regulation in this area. I'm jumping around the stuff I've highlighted. You'll find it in the show notes. Network neutrality as shorthand for system of belief about innovation policy is the end, while open access and broadband discrimination are the means. You see, if you go through this document, it was just crazy that I did this. He actually says at the end, The technical reason IP favors data applications is that it lacks any universal mechanism to offer a quality of service guarantee. IP doesn't care, it runs over everything. Network design is an exercise in trade-offs. True application neutrality may in fact sometimes require a close vertical relationship between a broadband operator and the internet service provider. OG! An internet service provider in this case means the Netflix.

2:06:35 Delivering the full range, the full possible range of applications either requires an impractical upgrade of the entire network or some tolerance of close vertical relationships. The guy who came up with net neutrality is advocating this and he actually advocates metered service. If chat programs have, so here's an example. If chat programs have positive externalities for other network applications, say if a chat program is middleware for a file exchange program, as in the case of Amsterdam, this is 2003, dependent applications are hurt as well. Second, to the degree other applications depend on a critical mass of high bandwidth users, they are hurt by potential subscribers who at the margin are not willing to pay for broadband without the chat programs.

2:07:23 Do you see? The only way to have what people call net neutrality is to meter your usage. And we knew 10 years ago, 11 years ago, that video was going to mess it up. And you think you get a free ride with your Netflix for $5 a month or whatever, now it's $7 or whatever, even if it was $10, it doesn't matter. It's a very, very small amount of money. That is going away. You already have this on mobile. People don't talk about that. You have caps and limits and you can't go over it. This is going to happen to the home. But you're playing into Google's cards and the ISP cards by demanding this net neutrality bullcrap. And look at your electric bill and your water bill. They are not $50 a month. So everyone who's doing this, you are actually

2:08:19 making it worse for yourself if it becomes regulated that all packets have to be equal and the only way for the networks to manage it is by bringing in new hardware and providing more bandwidth, you are going to be paying for it. Goodbye to the days of eat all you want. It's gone. So stop the insanity! Does that make any sense, John? It's gonna make no sense to anybody. You are peeing into the wind. Well, put it in the Red Book. Do you hear my voice? I'm so shot. Put it in the Red Book that you're screwed. You are screwing yourself on this. You really are. Putting you're screwed in the Red Book is what I've been in the Red Book. Make a whole page. You're screwed. Here is Michael Powell.

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Michael Powell, NCTA Keynote and Infrastructure Decay

Michael Powell, Chairman of the National Cable Television Association, delivered a keynote arguing against regulating broadband as a public utility. Powell pointed to the crumbling state of U.S. roads, water mains, and the electric grid as evidence that government utility regulation leads to decay. He contrasted these failing systems with the privately funded, rapidly expanding broadband network.

michael powell· ncta· broadband· public utility· infrastructure· blackouts

2:09:11 He is the chairman of the National Cable Television Association. He's Colin Powell's kid, of course. And this is a part from his keynote at the recent NCTA meeting where he explains why you must be happy that broadband is not a commodity. He does it in a very funny way though. It's that Internet's essential nature, however, that fuels a very heated policy debate. that the network cannot be left in private hands and instead should be regulated as a public utility following the example of the interstate highway system, the electric grid and drinking water. The intuitive appeal of these arguments is understandable but the potholes visible through your windshield, the shiver you feel in a cold house after a snowstorm knocks out your power

2:10:04 and the water main breaks along your commute should restrain one from embracing the illusory virtues of public utility regulation. The Federal Highway Administration estimates that $170 billion is needed annually just to fix our congested and crumbling roads. Most Americans' drinking water infrastructure is nearing the end of its useful life. There's an estimated 240,000 water main breaks per year. And reports say the water system needs $1 trillion in improvement. America's electric grid is no better. It's suffering and desperately needs a $768 billion shot in the arm by 2020 to keep it from failing. And the number of massive blackouts?

2:10:59 have increased. That, by the way, was a sound effect he had on stage. In 2007, there were 76 major blackouts. In 2011, there were 307. Now, can you imagine if the Internet blacked out 300 times a year? No, because it doesn't. Because the Internet is not regulated as a public utility. It grows and thrives, watered by private capital and a light regulatory touch. It does not depend on the political process for its growth or the extended droughts of public funding. This is why broadband is the fastest deploying technology in world history, reaching nearly every citizen in our expansive country. Okay, couple takeaways from this. One,

2:11:51 Our future is one where everything is shit except we have broadband. Because the toilet's not going to work, no water, the roads are going to fall apart. But we'll have broadband! We'll have a house of cards! Two, if this net neutrality bullcrap goes through, which it's going to happen because you're right, the storm is so huge. People are lobbying for this but you know who's really behind this? Google. Google because they will become the competitor. This you can write in the book. I'm from the future, you know, I'm a time traveler. This is why I know this stuff. I'm listening to Moliere's. People are going to see that their bills are going to triple or quadruple for what you're using with your Netflix and all your porn and everything you like to use and all your YouTube videos and Google is going to come into every single community with their fiber and they're going to say, oh,

2:12:50 We're gonna give it to you for free. We have one package and one package only. Free. But we get to do everything we want with your packets for advertising. They're already making this offer in Austin. Take your Google Fiber. It's not free. I think it's like you pay once. You pay for the setup and it's free and then they get to do deep packet insertion of ads. That is what you are doing if you are for this net neutrality bullcrap. What you want is you want the smart engineers who really know how to do this stuff to manage the network, try and make the services work. You definitely want Netflix to pay more money to be inside your local provider. And yeah, that will cost you more. Whoop-dee-doo!

2:13:45 But if you choose for the net neutrality route, you're going to get metered service and the only alternative will be Google, who will be tracking you for everything and will basically own you. Was that an applause? Yeah, applause. That's the best I can do. Yeah, that's where it's headed. That's what's gonna happen. I like it. I think it's a good analysis. I think it's incredibly sad is what I think it is. I think the combination of the, if it wasn't for my clip, I would have given the Michael Powell thing a clip of the day. I think the Michael Powell clip combined with the letter that we got from our producer,

2:14:32 I think, summarize it better than anything. It was definitely better than a bunch of people just willy-nilly running around waving their arms in the air while spinning in circles and screaming, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Net neutrality, we need net neutrality because we're gonna be screwed because Comcast is gonna, and these imagined scenarios. That's why I died on the show the last week. I saw it happen. It was so stupid that you couldn't even get into it. It was imagined scenarios that are just unlikely. But it always goes like this. Imagine where you can't watch Twit, or imagine where you can't watch Young Turks, or imagine, imagine, imagine, or when it slows down, or these are... this makes no sense. These are just... I mean, and they call me a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, yeah, that's the irony. And everybody is all in on this.

CHAPTER 34 / 37 Discussion

Louis CK, Common Core and Bill Gates Foundation

Comedian Louis CK sparked a viral conversation about Common Core education standards, tweeting that the curriculum makes his children cry. This celebrity pushback comes as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation continues to fund pro-Common Core "front" organizations. The hosts also highlight a plaque at the Gates Foundation headquarters that promotes vaccines as the most effective way to ensure a healthy life.

louis ck· common core· bill gates· melinda gates· education· vaccines

2:15:28 I don't understand it man. It's horrible, what's gonna happen? Well this and that and the other thing and I said that again. I'm making mistakes today. Wow. But they would go on with their analysis which was just borderline hallucinatory. But what are you gonna do? I mean, you can bitch and moan, you can make your arguments, and you still got, you know, you got powerhouses that are pushing this. Well, the problem is we need more people like Mike D to, you know, jump on, jump in their pens and write something and say, you're wrong. This is not how it works. You know, this is not how it works. It's the same, it goes back to your Twitter question. So what do we do when Twitter just basically has to fold? Well, there's a lot of things we could do.

2:16:23 A lot. But people don't want to take the effort, don't want to put in the elbow grease to make the network actually... I'm doing it. Screw it. There'll be enough people who I care about who will be doing this. Protocols, we've got RSS, we've got all kinds of things that work perfectly fine. It works. But no, it's not great for following celebrities. Yeah, okay. So that's a problem. Or... Celebrities. Or for following the Common Core teachers. Here we go with the of course is big problems now with Common Core people are catching on even Louis CK is I loved his tweet if you saw this This got went pretty viral says my kids used to love math now. It makes them cry So this is now becoming a problem for the Common Core people

2:17:21 And this is the latest public service announcement that they are rolling out. There's a lot of confusion about new standards in education called Common Core. As teachers, we're on the front lines. And we support Common Core. So here are the facts. Common Core is not some Washington mandate. That myth gets an F for misleading. Common Core is about raising standards so our students learn more and go further. All decisions on how to teach are made at the local level. Go to learnmoregofurther.org and get the real story on Common Core. With their fake Twitter accounts telling you fake information about how Common Core is, oh that's not some government thing. Parents want to know what's going on with testing and standards. As teachers we're on the front lines. And we're excited about a new plan for higher standards called the Common Core. Common Core is about learning to apply knowledge and critical thinking, not just testing rote memorization. The new standards will be challenging.

2:18:29 But students will learn more, which will help them go further to college and good jobs. Get the good news about Common Core at learnmoregofurther.org. Yeah, and if you follow the learnmorecommoncore, learnmoregofurther.org, you eventually wind up at ACT. Again, you just have to follow it. It's all these websites. They're all fronts. There's now three, four layers deep. And then when you finally get to ACT and ACTIV, It's Bill and Melinda Gates! Did you see the, I'll put it in the show notes, one of our producers went to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation headquarters and took photos. And so they have this plaque outside the building. Yeah, you gotta kick out of this plaque. And it's a bunch of vaccine, vaccination, not needles but the tops, in bronze. I'm looking at the picture here.

2:19:28 Quote, vaccines save lives. They are the simplest, most inexpensive, most effective way to give all children a shot at a healthy, productive life. Bill Gates. These people have to be stopped. They are crazy. Well, I think the wheels are coming off the Common Core train. A little bit. A little bit, but it doesn't take much with you got people like Louis CK and some of these other celebrities who are actually influencers. Yeah, made me very happy to see him jump on this. That's good news. And so you're gonna end up with certain kinds of ridicule. They're gonna try to get him on board. In other words, they're gonna send some agents over there to try to, you know, find out what's wrong. We'll see.

CHAPTER 35 / 37 Discussion

Prison Industrial Complex, Correctional Corporation of America and Non-Profits

A Frontline documentary on the U.S. prison system highlights the lack of rehabilitation and the difficulties faced by former inmates. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is criticized for investing in the Correctional Corporation of America (CCA), a private prison operator, while failing to fund community halfway houses. The hosts argue that the foundation uses a complex web of non-profits to obscure its influence and spending.

cca· bill gates· private prisons· frontline· non-profits· transparency

2:20:14 If the wheels come off this thing, which is hopefully it will, it's going to put the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on a rocky footing. And let me mention something else about that group. There's a special right now, it's this week's front line, I think it's an hour and a half, on the prison system. And they go on and on, they show some, these poor bastards, they go into the, you know, this is cradle to prison is what we're dealing with here. Oh no. Instead of cradle to career, we're cradle to prison? That's the way it looks like. How about, we need something catchier, like penis to prison.

2:20:53 They so they can't these kids are going to they're all end up adult black mostly. And they show these guys they get in, they can't once they get out, they can't get a job because impossible, and especially if they're older and they're not educated well, and they're nobody's rehabilitated in prison anymore that ended. And then they showed this poor bastard who was in a small halfway house. And he's then talking about how, you know, how they don't have enough money to get by. And these halfway houses are a godsend. Some of these halfway houses in certain parts of the South, especially places like Kentucky, are a godsend to these poor bastards because they would be on the street. They'd have to commit crimes to go back to jail. Right.

2:21:31 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation gives money to the to the prison, the private prison system. Oh yeah. But do they give money to any of these halfway houses that are actually doing good work? I'd like to know. I'm gonna look into it. I doubt it. But if they're gonna give money to the, what is it, criminal corporate, what is the Correctional Corporation of America, which has got nothing to do with charity, And they're going to invest in that operation and not invest in these halfway houses? This is not good. This is going to really be a black mark on this operation. But how do you see the problem is they have the media so locked up. They've got the PBS and NPR, which are really the only two outlets and the New York Times. The only outlets that people will take, you know, people who are intelligent or think they're intelligent, you know, like the Obama bots.

2:22:23 will take seriously as, oh I heard it on NPR, so this must be true, this must be a error. They sponsor so much, they pay for so much of the programming indirectly, there's no way that these guys are going to bite the hand that feeds them. It's a corrupt, the system won't work that way. Well that level of corruption at some point, it's too corrupt. I mean corruption is corruption but Bad career. I mean, there's a point, you know, every culture has this level of corruption of Chicago if you live in Chicago It's different than if you live in San Francisco, although it's bad in San Francisco But it's different if you live in the middle of nowhere, Indiana Let's say and it's and if you live in the Ukraine It's a corruption level is very high and it has its elements and you have to work within that corrupt system But when you go completely out of control with a corrupt with a type of corruption, that's not acceptable. I

2:23:16 In other words, it's beyond corruption. It's bad for the body politic, which is what seems to be going on with both Common Core and what the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation may be doing with this investment in the Correctional Corporation of America with private prisons, which has nothing to do with any charity I can think of. I'd like to I think it would just a matter of time before this thing comes crashing down I don't care what support they have from these these stooges and Obama bots Well, the question is there's so much money if you look at all the connections, you know, this happened right under our noses It is the Governors Association of America the NGA National Governors Association. I should say that's where the five billion dollars the federal money went into and

2:24:04 and under the race to the top Head Start programs. And these people got their hooks in it, and now it's so hard. Every single day there's another non-profit that is thrown up with basically, it's the same as instead of hiring someone, instead of expanding the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation building and putting another wing on it to house all these people, They find someone and they say, oh you're going to start this non-profit and we're going to fund you with $125,000 and you're going to get it from this non-profit, which really isn't a non-profit but it's from that non-profit which handles money from families who do non-profits. And so it's untraceable where this money comes from but you have, they still get the same talking points and the messaging. And that's all they do.

2:24:55 Go out and tell people that it's great. And of course in Bloom, someone made a very good point. The data repository, that is shut down, but someone made a good point to me. He said, oh yeah, you just watch. They'll come back with a new name. I'm like, oh yeah, of course. How stupid am I? It'll just come back as a new name with a new non-profit with a new name. These non-profits, there should be better disclosure. This is a big problem to me. Because I read these forms religiously. And in 98% of the time, you can't find out where the money's come from. You just can't find out. Yeah, yeah, that has to be more transparent. But transparency, the theme of the Obama administration has never gotten anywhere. Well, it's like anything but. Well, that's depressing. Have you, yeah, no. Yeah, and the Club 33 burning to the ground. I don't know what kind of a show we got here. I was gonna make it even worse. I was gonna say, have you ever seen, in all your 60 years, John, have you ever seen it this bad in the world?

CHAPTER 36 / 37 Discussion

History Commons, National Security State and Civil Liberties

Data from History Commons suggests that 90% of the impingements on American civil liberties occurred after the establishment of the national security state in 1947. This era, beginning with the Truman administration and the creation of the CIA, marked a shift toward a permanent "security consciousness." The hosts argue that the erosion of freedom has accelerated every year since this turning point.

history commons· 1947· cia· truman· civil liberties· security state

2:26:00 Well, I'm not going that far. But it was pretty bad during the...I believe during the 50s when there were kids were forced to duck and cover. Right. What's the difference? It's the same thing. It's just to frighten the public. Shelter in place, duck and cover, cower in the corner. Same thing. Same thing is that nothing's changed. It began in 1947 when we put in a security state that Truman put in, and we began the CIA and all these other agencies were all kind of formed at that moment, and we've turned the country into a security consciousness. There's a thing that was called History Commons. It's on the internet. It's just thing at historycommons.org. And they have, and I downloaded this. I actually, when I was at Mevio, I got a reputation at Mevio for doing this. I probably went through three reams of paper.

2:26:50 I downloaded the entire document on freedoms in the United States and how they've been impinged upon. And it's a very, and it starts in 1770 and they have these, you know, what did your law was passed or some law and that was impinging on free speech. And so I printed the whole thing out and from 1777 to probably 2013 or 2012. And it was so obvious that after 1947, it was 90% of the document, thousands of pages, 90% of that all started in 1947. And they got thicker and thicker to this day. So every year since 1947, the number of impingements on American freedoms and liberties has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where I don't know that we have any.

2:27:41 I think it's a miracle we can do this show. Yeah, well, we're coming up on an hour, so everything's about to break by itself anyway. All right. But I do want to say that, you know, I want to help my wife not go through all this hassle coming into the country. And people, I got lots of email from people about this, about hooking into your freedom speech here. coming into the country through Houston with green cards, detained for 13 hours, no reason why. So I want to set her up with global entry, which is, you know, essentially you get your biometrics, it's slave scanning. And so I go to the website, oh my god,

CHAPTER 37 / 37 Discussion

Global Entry, Biometric Scanning and Sign-off

The hosts discuss the frustrations of applying for "Global Entry," a government program that uses biometric scanning for expedited travel. They describe the application website as a "nightmare" designed by a police state. The show concludes with a final plea for listener support and a humorous "sentence" of 72 hours of Piers Morgan for telling the truth.

global entry· biometrics· cbp· police state· net neutrality· pierce morgan

2:26:50 I downloaded the entire document on freedoms in the United States and how they've been impinged upon. And it's a very, and it starts in 1770 and they have these, you know, what did your law was passed or some law and that was impinging on free speech. And so I printed the whole thing out and from 1777 to probably 2013 or 2012. And it was so obvious that after 1947, it was 90% of the document, thousands of pages, 90% of that all started in 1947. And they got thicker and thicker to this day. So every year since 1947, the number of impingements on American freedoms and liberties has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where I don't know that we have any.

2:27:41 I think it's a miracle we can do this show. Yeah, well, we're coming up on an hour, so everything's about to break by itself anyway. All right. But I do want to say that, you know, I want to help my wife not go through all this hassle coming into the country. And people, I got lots of email from people about this, about hooking into your freedom speech here. coming into the country through Houston with green cards, detained for 13 hours, no reason why. So I want to set her up with global entry, which is, you know, essentially you get your biometrics, it's slave scanning. And so I go to the website, oh my god,

2:28:28 I spent three hours going through this yesterday. It's a nightmare. I've tried to go through it myself and I've actually got an account and then I because you have to answer it you have to wait and then you get an email but you don't get an email they never tell you. No, you don't get an email. And then they cancel it. Yeah at the end at the end they don't even give you a date they say oh keep checking back with the website. Yeah. No, that's it. And it's the only website in the universe that I've come across that asks for dates of expiration dates year, month, day. What is that? So instead of a regular date structure, it's reverse. The whole thing is perverse is what it is. Yeah, well, okay. Yeah, I had the same problem with them.

2:29:17 It's a police state. Well, I'm speaking up about it and I'll go down fighting. Okay, I'll be watching. You'll be right there, right by my side, right behind me. I'll be saying, go Adam, go. Go, go, go, go, go. Quit hitting him, quit hitting him. Don't tase him. Alright everybody, thanks for sticking with us. Tough show today, but somehow we made it through, we always do. Just a reminder that we make it really look easy. And I guess I'll figure out what's killing my colonel. Hopefully someone has recorded the whole- I think I have the individual files, but if someone could drop those in a box somewhere so I can bring in the recording that would be very very helpful as well. And please remember that we need your support to continue this analysis. Even though you may not like it and you may want to change your icon for net neutrality, I think it's worth giving us a listen. We've been around for a while. We've got no dog in the hunt. Yeah, seniors. Yeah, we're seniors. We got no dog in the hunt here.

2:30:21 So go to Dvorak.org slash NA to help us out. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6, close to my deathbed. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And for Golden Silicon Valley where it's getting hotter and I had to reopen the window, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we'll be back on Sunday with another episode right here on No Agenda. The court hereby finds the defendants Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak guilty of telling slaves the truth. And our sentence is 72 hours of Pierce Morgan. Court is now adjourned. 4, 3, 2, 1. Fabulous! The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-L-S