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00:03 That's enough rain stick for today. Increasing activation in brain regions from form the mesolimbic dopamine system. Here in FEMA region 6, Travis Heights, Hyde Island, Austin, Texas. Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's raining, and where it rains it pours, I'm John C. Dvorak. Okay. I don't know what this is not good. What the hell happened? No, it's not good. Something's going on. Let me see what's happening.

00:44 Why is the computer frozen now all of a sudden hold on let me just check that again Hey John, how you doing? Hey great Morning zoo. Hi boy. How you doing? Yeah, is it really raining? I heard you got something like 10 inches last night. Oh Is that true? It's about time. Wow! And you know that we're completely responsible for this. It seems so, or at least it's an amazing cosmic coincidence that once we got the rain sticks going it began raining finally. Even though they predicted it wouldn't rain until April. Let me just review. It had not rained for months. What was it, four months, five months it hadn't rained in California? Yeah. And we pull out our rain sticks as professionally licensed rain stick operators

01:39 Immediately it starts raining. We did it again on the previous show you got 10 inches, but Ireland is pissed off Well, they don't even listen to the show nor can yes, they did well some Irish listeners are I don't know that we do we have we have I we have this interesting I'm getting I don't remember I think yes, we do we do we got Tommy boy a couple other people there right right right right and they're really angry They're tweeting me stop with the rain stick. Yeah, I've seen this these tweets well I'm you know, it's not this I guess they're getting flooded. I have to say John I have lost the Olympic fever. Did you watch the opening ceremonies? Yeah, first of all, I watched the pre Games before the ceremony after the show on Thursday No, I had I had the fever. I was really I had Olympic fever. I was watching the figure skating you know how much I love the figure skating and the Russians were just kicking ass and

02:39 It was just beautiful and American sucked. Dude fell down. Ugh. For team skating. I miss that because I don't really I don't like judged sports because I don't think that's really Sports it's mmm. Well. There's a lot of technicality my mom was a figure skater. Yeah, there's a lot of technicality in it But it's still judge sport so it's it's subject to corruption Hello, that's part of the beauty of it. It's Wild stuff, but they didn't think it was appropriate so they get nicter. It's based on outfits in ice skating. Exactly. That's what I like so much about it. And makeup. Yeah, that's what I like so much about it. But they wear more makeup. I do want to mark it off in the red book even though it didn't exactly appear. It wasn't the mutt or the mongrel that we had predicted. I saw it in the newspapers. I saw it in USA Today. Stray dog interrupts opening ceremony. I think it's a red book come true once again.

03:37 And we this wasn't even a see we put it in the red book, but we knew it was gonna happen these things You know they're just they their self. They're just obvious Yeah, and now we have there's all kinds of fun stuff And we will get into a lot of f-russia stuff today no doubt because that involves our friend Victoria Newland but So one of the rings didn't open up and immediately some great hoax on the web. I was hoping someone would pick it up. Did you see this thing? Apparently the engineer whose job it was to have all the rings unfold, he was stabbed to death in his hotel room.

04:19 I don't have a clip, but I could get it. It was on Vancat. Yeah, that's supposed to be the American ring. Is that is that the yeah? Yeah, it was the American ring that didn't open. Oh, please. I like it. Come on. Yeah, man responsible... And then they said, but now we're represented by flakes. Well, par for the course. This is not an accident. The man responsible for operating the Olympic rings during last night's Winter Olympic opening ceremonies in Russia was found dead. Yeah. According to local reports, the body of T. Boris Avdiev... Right. T. Boris Avdiev.

05:03 was found in his hotel room this morning with multiple stab wounds. Sure. I wish that had gotten some play. You know, there's so many things. Of course, along with the whole Russia hates gays thing. It didn't take long for people to find out that, gee, NBC edits these broadcasts. And the president of the International Olympic Committee had a whole speech and he talked about diversity and they cut a piece out. and immediately go, oh, they're deceptive. Hello. It's an edited show, people. This is what they do. They need to fit in more advertisements. Yeah, I think there's some break that Matt Lauer goes, and now they're showing the Russian history, and here's where they break from the past to the future as we break for a commercial.

05:59 Or some crazy line like that. Exactly, exactly. No, I think what I saw, everything looked good and it's nice. I thought it was quite... I thought many of these events they did, especially after they had that horrible walkout of all these athletes and they went to the second part of the show, I thought the show was very entertaining. Yeah, I thought it was good too. And I kind of liked the whole opening montage and the little girl flying. The little girl flying around like a maniac. She's doing good. Good flyer. And yeah, there's a bunch of cool stuff. What people don't realize is how incredibly commercial these Olympic Games are. And people kind of gloss over it and... They do? Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Are you kidding? I think that... I think people really believe in this whole, you know, oh, you know, it's our Olympic dream and you're representing your country. No, you're not. You're representing Visa and McDonald's.

06:55 In fact, I I stumbled across and I don't watch it often, but I saw Amy Goodman show and she had some some woman on who She was she was clearly a Russian expert and she brought on Samantha retrosi Samantha retrosi. Let me see. I have it here. She competed I think in 2006 in the luge competition and she wrote a an article about how the Olympic Games are very similar to the Hunger Games and how in fact he says it's so eerily similar where we were all put into groups and it's really you know dog-eat-dog and then she went into the whole commercial thing and I thought it was great that this was on television because you rarely hear anyone really telling the truth now she is no longer an Olympian

07:50 And I was quite surprised they even went this far on the Amy Goodman... What is the name of her show? Democracy Now. The War and Peace Report. Yeah, the War and Peace Report about the commercial... Really, how these poor boys and girls, how they're really trained by the International Olympic Committee to do one thing, and that's basically to shill for the advertisers. Well, as a US national team athlete, I signed a contract every year with the US Leisure Association and that contract stipulated what I could and couldn't say, how I should use my media time. Essentially I was being trained to be a spokesperson for Verizon. What would you say about Verizon? I love that. What would you say about Verizon?

08:32 They give great phone service. Golly, I wish we had advertisers. I could talk about their call quality all day long. That would be awesome. Crapalooge bitch. Is enabled by Verizon. So that's kind of the line.

09:11 kind of defines how an athlete talks about their relationship to Verizon. Of course, it's not always that specific line. But during the Olympics, of course, you take on a whole other range of sponsors, you know, the sponsors of the US team in general, USOC sponsors. The Olympic Committee sponsors. Yes, the US Olympic Committee sponsors. I feel like Amy still doesn't understand the significance of it. It is a complete commercial event. And yeah, and everybody's working for free. This girl has to get a part listen She's gonna say she has to get a job and so then you you become a spokesperson for those sponsors as well so You know the sponsorship relationship and like the the sponsors themselves are contingent upon the actual event World Cup settings Verizon was the the main the main sponsor the Olympics and

10:05 you have the full range of US corporate US team corporate sponsorship. And yet despite the fact that corporate sponsorship plays such a big role you also point out that individual athletes in fact often have to take on other jobs just in order to support themselves because they see very little of that sponsorship money. Yeah like zero. Very little. They get a free jacket. Yeah they get it yeah well I think they pay for their travel. That's about it, and I'm always amazed that people don't see through this like this big Cultural event no it's not It's not it's just not you're surprised. You're amazed. Yeah, no, but if you are well No, I'm not really You're right, and you're right, but I lost the I really lost the Olympic fever with all of this every single channel just filled with

10:58 Terror this, terror that, oh it's gonna be... Jane Harman was on CNN. Jane Harman who looks like she should be on a 70s sitcom. Either that or she looks like the Partridge family. Yes, that's it, the Partridge family, exactly, you nailed it. and she's a former representative and she is on drugs. This is new though because I've heard her make sense. But when she, for some reason now she's working for the Woodrow Wilson building or foundation or not quite sure what that is. Some think tank of some sort. Yeah but she's also a contributor to CNN and she's off her rocker. Jane Harman you've seen all the reports of all the fears out there. Fear! Threats! Are they exaggerating? Are these overblown? Dude what do you think John? Are these exaggerating? Are these overblown? No not by any means.

12:00 U.S. intelligence officials have told me they are deeply concerned and these are people who are not necessarily alarmist. Well I think they're not necessarily alarmist. Let me see Mike Rogers not necessarily alarmist. What's that other douchebags name? Yeah, Peter King. Peter King. Well, I think we're prepared. These suicide bombers or whoever. Or whoever. You gotta listen to her. She's great. These suicide bombers or whoever. The garbage man. Whoever. Only have to be right once. We have to be right 100% of the time. 100% is not achievable. Not achievable. We cannot do it. We have pre-positioned Department of Homeland Security, FBI and military folks. Folks, what a waste of money.

12:45 money. We have naval warships in the Black Sea which abuts Sochi. It abuts Sochi. We have others in the neighborhood in the Mediterranean and these are the right things to do. Yes, it's the right thing to do. Yeah, let's move all these multi-million dollar ships that cost a fortune to drive one mile. Let's just move them into position. For what? What are they going to do? Pound the Sochi with cannon fodder? Yes, exactly. Fire. With cannons? Fire. Cannon shot? Yeah. Meanwhile, the Iranian fleet is sailing right into our waters. Like, hey, idiots up there abutting Sochi. Woohoo! It's a hard message to hear. Part of the message has to be what Janet Napolitano just said. Pride in our athletes. Yes. And the fact that the US is, I think, likely to win a lot of golds. That's right. And that's a great statement for our country. She's high. I'm telling you, she's high.

13:36 It is a very dangerous world. Why Vladimir Putin would pick a place that first of all is warm, He's about to actually say you're full of shit in CNN speak because she's going to see why Vladimir Putin picked a place that is warm. Vladimir Putin would pick a place that first of all is warm and with palm trees but that second abuts the wild west of Russia, the North Caucasus. Abuts the wild west of Russia. Now luckily Brof just can't take it himself. I guess he didn't toke it baffles me It was the International Olympic Committee They were the ones who selected you know, it feels like a vanity project for Putin Shut up bro dollars has really been spent there's

14:27 presumably a lot of corruption and there could be penetration by people in addition to black widows somewhere. A person prepared to take her or his life has a much easier time attacking than somebody who wants to survive. Thank you for this fantastic insight. Let me review. A person who is willing to take his or her life is much more dangerous than someone who wants to survive. Let me scribble that down. Morons! This woman is always a ding bad. This is really bad though. This is real. This has gotten crazy. Just keep her off the air. That's what she needs. No, she's she's she's got more. There's this I got more clips from her. Not about this about something else. She comes back all the time. It's like she's on CNN now. She should do a cooking show. Speaking speaking of which, and

15:23 Well, what well, you know, oh, yeah, it's another installment of Okay, I'm sorry I was kind of relishing the moment we okay. Okay. We're gonna go back to so she doesn't take a break right now ladies and gentlemen, and I'm gonna ask Adam the big question that I Hinted about it in the newsletter. You've got your newsletters. Yeah, I with the picture of the dog with the four eyes. Very nice. And I'm gonna ask him now, so here we go. We're gonna start the show off with a bang. Hey Adam! Yeah John? Hey I heard that you had another Obot dinner. That's right John, I sure did! Another installment though. Dinner with the Obots! Yeah! We are right on cue today. Well,

16:12 I must say it's been a while since we had a dinner with the Obots here in Austin, Texas. A reminder, these are my friends. Yes, and can I ask a question before you begin? Please. Did this include the guy who would not ever sit down and even have a coffee with a Republican guy? No, because he is not one of the Obots. I will, however, see him tonight. Oh, another dinner? Yes. Woo! Yeah, it's another dinner. Wow, back to back. Yes, this is actually a benefit dinner and we've been invited to his table. So we're joining him and his wife at his table for the... Nice. Yes, yes, yes. And I actually sent him a copy of the white paper that our Brian the Gay Crusader put together. He won't read it. He replied to my email and said, I'll take a look at it. I look forward to more heated debate.

17:08 Well, maybe we'll look at it. But I mean, that's his premise. I look forward to more heated debate. Were you having a heated debate with him? Yeah. That's yeah, that's why I sent it to him and over Christmas. Let me okay. Here's it. Let me do it Okay, you're sitting at the table. This is just just something to put in the back your mind is okay You're usually you're gonna be sitting at the table. You're gonna be put your hands are gonna be Touching the table edge or on the wrist area. No. No, I have my hands Just just once is the back of your mind. Okay, and you're gonna be that's gonna be your position The guy's gonna be talking yakking away, the wine glass will be about I'd say two feet from your right hand. In the middle of a sentence you thrust your right hand forward in one motion, grab the glass and throw it right in his face and then say douche. Okay. Can you thrust one? One fell swoop. Yeah. I splash him in the face and say douche. Yeah. Yeah okay.

18:12 The, um, you know, so we hadn't had one of these, uh, OBOT dinners for a while. And what happened, as you know, I was a bit disappointed. Not that we had nice dinners, of course, but I was a bit disappointed and have any, anything for the show. And what I learned is that these dinners were too close concurrently. So now we had a little more time. It was kind of like they went to the OBOT juice machine and filled up their batteries. I see. Oh man. It actually, you hinted in an email that you, that you have good stuff. Well, it started off... so the evening before I had seen two of the O-Bots and one of the female bots said, Whoa, oh boy, Sochi, you're getting hacked. Everybody's getting hacked over there. Richard Engel, I trust him. He's from NBC. And that's exactly what she said, by the way. I trust Richard Engel. Now, are you going to tell us that it's already been busted? Well, but it hadn't been busted at this point. So the next day, which is our O-Bot dinner day in the morning,

19:12 I send her the busted link. I say, um, hello, I told you that this guy is not to be trusted. It's completely bogus. I get an email back that says... Why don't you explain to the audience? I don't think everybody knows this. Okay. We actually played a clip from Richard Engel who was talking about the minute you open up your laptop or the minute you turn on your phone, you're immediately hacked in Sochi. He said Sochi, although he was actually in Moscow. Right, he was in Moscow. He wasn't an associate on this whole thing. It was completely scripted or as he would say yes it was edited that's why it looked kind of weird because what they didn't show is that you know they went to bogus Olympic websites which you arguably could have gone to from you know Austin and gotten to the same website and of course that downloaded some malware and he also side loaded an app on his Android phone yeah okay yeah that's kind of how you get viruses and crap that eats your

20:10 It's your address book. By the way, did you see that piece? Did you see the actual video of that piece? No. Oh, okay. I'll put it in the show notes. Because he opens up a brand new MacBook Air, and you've seen a MacBook Air, how beautifully Apple packages these devices. And you know, you peel off the little, it's kind of a ritual, you peel off the little sticker and the box opens and it says, from Apple. From Cupertino to you. The whole thing just says, fuck me. I'm sorry, that's really what it is. It's just love. Lovingly put together. This guy, he's opening the box on camera, he's ripping the side open. He's like ripping the box open. You know, it's very strange. Anyone who has had the pleasure of opening up a brand new Apple product knows how nice it is. He was just ripping it like a maniac.

21:04 It's something to be seen because it really confused me. Like, why is this guy doing this? Anyway, onward. So I send the email and she sends back and she says, well, you know, to be fair, Richard Engel was on Rachel Maddow last night and he did say they were in Moscow. And I fired back. I said, wait, you watch Rachel Maddow? She fires back. If I were gay, I would marry her. So this is already starting off on a bad foot for me. Brother! Yeah, right. How is Rachel Maddow's neck big? How is it actually bigger than her head? Have you ever noticed this? Her neck comes out and her neck is wider than her head itself. Yeah, it is. It's very weird looking.

21:51 There's a guy, a TV host in Holland who looks so much like her it's scary. Oh, do us, give me a photo I'll do it and put in the newsletter as I separated at birth. Let's just Google this for a second just so you see it. Martijn, so M-A-R-T-I-J-N. I don't have my keyboard hold on a second. You don't have your keyboard? John, did you come to school without your keyboard again? It's on the ground, I've got it now. Mark what? M-A-R-T-I-J-N M-A-R-T-I-J-N Space? Yeah. K-R-A-B-B-E. Krabbe. And he hosts The Voice actually in the Netherlands. The Voice of Holland.

22:37 You see it looks like a lesbian. Yeah, well, hello Doesn't he look just like Rachel Maddow? He's I this one picture of him that I have I know I know it's remarkable. It's frightening Separated at birth Martin Crave and Rachel Maddow. It's Jim. Yeah, isn't it? Okay, so that's anyway. Yes onward. Oh So remember we have the brain professor and his wife, Mary Ann. We have the artist who wants to marry Rachel Maddow and her husband. And by the way, I made killer crab cakes and shrimp and... It was at your house? Yes, yeah. And Mickey had the crostinis all set up, good to go. So it was really quite nice. And so, you know, of course, we're talking about the weather and I swear to God,

23:29 She turned to me and went, you know climate change that that's just global warming you know that right? They just use climate change now but it's really global warming you know that right? I said, yeah but you know it's... and then the professor chimes in, you know it's come on it's global warming it has been warming you know this is fact it's just science. And I was, they know my stance on global cool they know this. Yeah, global cooling. But it was frightening to actually tell me, you know that climate change is just, you know, it really means global warming. Okay. So I actually stopped and I waited and I said, I just want to go on the record. It's okay. I just want to say, I believe that global cooling is taking place. That's all. And I, okay. So there was no argument, but it was like they were having none of me, none of me.

24:29 They were doing a preemptive strike. But it was a little aggressive. Yeah, well they're sick of you. You mocked them on this show. I know who the artist is, I met her. And it's like, you know, I didn't know she was a huge Rachel Maddow nut. Yeah, I didn't know either. Okay, go on, let's go back to the meeting. Alright, so we're back. Now, both these couples And arguably we are as well, but are childless by choice and this adds a very phrase this It's not good. This adds a very interesting twist to how they view the world and it was kind of interesting at a certain point because they were here the

25:21 Have you ever been around people who are childless by choice? Oh yeah, I know a number of them. I know some of them. There's two forms of these people. One is resignation childless by choice, which means they wanted to have kids. Right. No, these are the... But then there's the aggressive ones, the other style, which is they hate kids and they don't want to have kids. Whenever I see a child in first class, I already know I'm in for a horrible crappy ride. Imagine cleaning your child's diarrhea. I've noticed the childless by choice and people who are pre-child and their relationship to children on an airplane is very interesting because I for example don't mind children, I don't like children sitting behind me kicking the seat. No of course not. You can usually stop them. Yeah you can stop them of course.

26:24 But I don't care about the kids screaming or crying or doing all these things because I had kids on planes that were my kids and I just think it's karmic justice and I kind of look forward to it. I say, ah, there's the kid screaming his head off. Mom is embarrassed. You can't get her to shut up. I had a flight once from Hawaii with JC Buzzkill Jr. when he was about four. And he, for some reason, he was always stubborn. And for some reason, we were trying to get him to get into the seat and he let out a blood-curdling scream. It was so blood-curdling that I swear to God, my wife would back this up, the entire airplane cracked up laughing. Great.

27:19 And it was like, holy mackerel, I didn't even think he had that in him. But it's like one of those things that I don't, you know, and so I hate people that bitch about kids on planes. Yeah, me too. But this went a little, and Mickey and I are just being very quiet. And we're watching this back, because the conversation, it was very interesting. It was like, oh my God, can you imagine cleaning up your kid's diarrhea? And so, wait a minute. This is what they think about. Yes, so I hear this line and I said, You know, I never had a problem cleaning up my kid's diarrhea. In fact, when she was still in diapers, I'd stick my finger in and pull it out if there was poop on it. I knew it was time to clean the diaper. You couldn't tell by the smell, I take it. Well, no, she pooped very sweetly. Oh, she was a sweet pooper. Yes. And so this goes back and forth. And then one of them says, oh, you know, I just realized you actually have, you're the only person here who has a kid.

28:24 And I said, yeah. And I actually recited some of the... Remember we talked about the book, about the joy of kids and how it turns out that it used to be an economic benefit, but these days it really makes people sad. It doesn't improve their lives at all because they have to be... you have to make the kid happy. So I talked a little bit about that. I said, but you know, I have to say that from a metaphysical, chemical, biological place, it's great. And of course kids are shit. They treat you like shit. They're a-holes. They forget everything. They make a mess. They break your stuff. But there's also beautiful sides to it. And then I said to the professor, I said,

29:10 I said something in that realm and he got really mad. There was anger. What did you say? It was basically about that. I think I said, you know, you really might be missing something. Oh, you implied that I didn't say that specifically. I didn't really, but the anger came back and I said, wow, you're angry. Why are you so angry? And then he let loose. He said, because all of our friends with kids are always telling us we don't know we're missing. And by the way, both these guys have vasectomies just to make it even funnier. So they can't go back. This is interesting to me for a number of reasons because I was doing some research on some

29:58 Women on Twitter that are just haters and they're this type and they like to get their men I won't mention who the one who I follow this one She's a famous writer and she likes she she put will put a picture of her husband with a big female purse And she'll say I think men are so sexy when they have a purse And you could do that you read the accent from the tweet That's pretty good. I like it. I think men are so sexy when they have a purse. Yeah, and it's if I find I I have a friend who I believe probably had a vasectomy because he was talked into it by one of these women and There's too many people in the world. You should get here. There's too many people in the world get your balls chopped off, buddy

30:51 Although that's not what a vasectomy is, I know. I don't want any letters. Right. Anyway, let me just move this forward a little bit. That would make you mad because I think a vasectomy is like you- That's why I think he was mad. You just closed yourself off from the potential. And Mickey's funny. At this point, Mickey's jumping in. And she's got a whole story unto her own about motherhood, but she says, Oh, I, you know, I would never ever let Adam have a vasectomy. So she's, she's now it's like, it's like, hello fire. Here's gasoline. Oh no. She's like, I would never want, I want him to always have the capability to produce more beautiful children. Now, now we've got, this is, this is the key to this dinner. Mickey is the key. So now we have a five alarmer. Now it's a

31:41 And so, well, eventually this simmers down a little bit. What? Holt? Yeah. And by the professor's wife, Marianne. She's very... She's like, I love your daughter. She met the kids when they were here. She's always really great. She is the funniest, and I'll get to her in a minute. I really love her for a number of reasons, because she comes out with the most insane crap. But before that, of course, it comes around to Russia. Now, I had sent the white paper previous to this dinner. Had anyone read it? Well, the professor had said, yeah, I read like the intro, 10 pages and yeah, you know, they hate gays. And then Mary Ann, Putin's a power hungry dictator. I said, yeah, unlike George Bush, Dick Cheney. Oh, you know, Bill Clinton. Yeah, he doesn't have any powerful people or money around those guys, or maybe even Barack Obama. It was just, you know, oh, it's not possible. Well, you know, please give it a shot. And in

32:42 In his defense and the artist's husband, both of those guys read it and went, holy crap, what is wrong with our media? They did a little Facebook thing. Okay, so in their defense they read it later. But they hadn't come prepared to my dinner, which was a little surprising. So as a part of this conversation about Putin being a power-hungry dictator, Mary Ann, Says, well, did you hear the Koch brothers are at it again? And I'm shitting myself. I said, what are you talking? Well, you can't deny the Koch brothers by the elections with Adelson. I, oh. Yeah. Oh yeah. You saw how good Adelson really kicked some butt. Yeah. That worked really well. Didn't it? Boy, those Koch brothers, they got Mitt Romney in, didn't they? Good work. They got Newt Gingrich in. That was Adelson's boy.

33:34 Those guys are great. So somehow this now morphs into... Oh, I know how it happened. In my mailbox shows up an I'm ready for Hillary sticker, bumper sticker, which I'm pretty convinced Armando the mailman put in there. Yeah, it's like, all right Armando, that's funny. And I tell the story and then it's like, oh, post office, horrible, losing money. Oh God, they don't listen to our show, do they? And so I mean I started you know, actually I kind of like the United States Postal Service, you know, it's a it's in the Constitution It's a you know, it's it's it really is a very important for privacy of documentation. Mary Ann goes Oh

34:16 You go to the post office? And Mickey loves going to the post office. I have to say our post office here is, it's a drafty, but she has, you know, you know Mickey, she goes in, she's got everyone wrapped around her finger. You know, the big lesbian whose girlfriend or wife is in the military and she's got every, everyone's beck and call for Mickey. But Marianne says, oh that post office, oh yeah, I love sitting there with all of Darwinism. What? All of Darwinism. Jeez. Right? Uh. And, and, and I'm, okay, but I give her a pass because she's lovely. She really is lovely. And then somehow we get into Islam. Now, now, now, now we're dessert.

35:11 And I said, well, it's been very interesting to see what's going on in Turkey and Syria and learning a lot about how things operate and the Ottoman Empire. And of course, Mickey and I, we grew up in the Netherlands. We've seen how things have changed. And we talked about Belgistan. And what comes back? Well, Islam is no crazier than Christians. Yeah, I think they might be. No, no, no, no, no. Fundamental Christians are just as nutty. All religions are crazy. Yeah, you got me on that, but this is something very specific that's going on. Could not get it past them, John. And then I made the big mistake. Wow, that means that, well, you're not, you know, they are reflective, of course. Of course, of course. And so their input to them, which would be, you know, we know what the inputs are,

36:09 must be extremely distorted because we don't really deal with that as much. You actually deal with it only as a... they're like a proxy for you. You get a good sense of this. I'm in the Berkeley area so I essentially it's around me. Yeah but they're in my house. The origins of this thought. And the funny thing is I still really consider them my friends and I really like them. But I'm a guest. They're not going to put up with you much longer. Well, no, I think they will. And what always happens is the next day there's always like, wow, you know, that was really great conversation. You know, we really learned a lot. You know, thanks for hitting. No, they don't say hit me in the mouth, but they do reflect on it. But it was too long and they came in and they've been reprogrammed and they're and they looked none of them really looked all that happy.

37:01 No, no, they didn't really look happy. This perspective and point of view. And with the whole kid thing, you know, it's like just so they're being depressed. They're being nagged at by their peers. You know, they've done something by choice, not irreversible, but, you know, they've kind of chosen this path. Yeah. And a lot of people do. And it seems seems yeah, sure. But, you know, here's the thing about that. If you're going to make that move, don't. That's why I think the gays can get away with being like this, because their entire milieu is reconfirming their belief system. If you're gonna mix with people with kids, you're gonna get a lot of flack. You'll hear this a lot from celebrities, you hear it all the time. It's like, oh I never wanted to have kids but when I had kids I would always want to have kids forever. Well it was also a, well you know, we all came from shitty households. I said, welcome to the club!

37:57 Everyone comes from a shitty family. All families suck in one form or the other. Anyway, so now we're near the end of the evening and it went downhill. The professor brought up the Tom Perkins letter regarding the 1% and I said, oh, That's interesting. On the show I took Tom Perkins' side. Eyes could not have rolled further back in heads. And of course I defended my position. I said, you know, look, you know, all I know is that the Germans didn't wake up one day and go, Hitler's great! Kill the Jews! They said that something else must have gone down and yeah. And literally

38:42 Five minutes into this people are standing up and like did I just like run did everyone run off because of the Jew talk Like no, no, we're tired And that was the end and you know what? You didn't talk about Jew gas I didn't. But I said, you know, there's something to be said for any persecution of any minority at any time. You have to be very careful, particularly if you're poo-pooing it. I said Hitler was person of the year, man of the year on Time Magazine in 1935 or 37. I think he hit Time Magazine twice. Twice, yeah. You know, so we were poor students of history. Anyway, everyone thanks me and they're out the door.

39:26 You sound like to me you're argumentative. I mean I had to be I had to be gonna bring up that that time and I'm on their side on this of course, but I didn't bring it I didn't bring up the Tom Perkins letter. I responded to bring it up I'll tell you how it came up it came up in regards to because the the artist used to work for compact and And that's how, and then you know, I was talking about old days at Compaq, of course HP, and that's how Tom Perkins came up. And I said, you know, and she's like, Tom Perkins is a moron. I'm like, yeah, you know, but I, so that's how we kind of got into it. And it was like, you know, John Doerr, no, now there's a smart guy. I'm like, nah, I had him on my board. I don't think he's all that smart. You know, he's okay.

40:16 You know, but it's not like he knows anything about... You know, I've known Dore for a long time. I mean, I'm not friends with him by any means. But every time I'm around him, I don't know if this is with everybody, but he's always shaking. And he always... Have you ever looked at his fingernails? He's biting them? Oh yeah, no. He has to have band-aids on his thumbnail because he chews it all the way off down to like the bone. It's the most disgusting thing. Yeah, that's... There's something to be said about people who do that. Yeah, so anyway. I I certainly hope that well we have another we've already scheduled our next dinner, so yeah, I'm telling you're done Here's why? I do real-time analysis Do when we talk a lot of stuff is just at the end yeah, and in this case it was you're revealing that the two guys are

41:08 put themselves in the corner by having vasectomies I think was personal. I think it's something they didn't want everybody that listens to our show to know about. Of course nobody knows who they are but that's another that's different and and I think it's gonna you're gonna eat shit for that. Well hopefully it'll happen during the dinner so I'll have some material for the show. He didn't appreciate you ridiculing us for a vasectomy and my high-pitched voice. I didn't ridicule anyone for a vasectomy. Mickey did. I didn't do that. Anyway, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Hey. Hey kids. In the morning to Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And yes, I am prepared. Yes. And in the morning to everyone in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. And in the morning to our artistes.

42:00 who always provide excellent art for us. Peter Quistgard, who I do not believe has had a piece chosen. He was the artists who succeeded for episode 489 to be the album art, but as you know, NoahGenArtGenerator.com, we choose lots of that art for newsletters, people print it out on coasters, on t-shirts, there's tons of cool stuff to be done with it, and all the art is highly appreciated. And of course, we could not be talking the way we speak on this show For sure this this first half hour If we had advertisers if Verizon was sponsoring us we'd we'd have to talk about How great Verizon phones aren't Verizon this vasectomy brought to you by Verizon So instead we have just like your calls get cut off Good one rhymes with calls

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43:39 Keep up the great work. We look forward to seeing Adam and Mickey at the Saturday market. Thanks, John Harrison, Austin, Texas. Yeah, these guys are great. They actually moved from North Carolina to Austin. They now live in, they moved, they came to visit. We met him at Halcyon, we had coffees and you know, we met him at the market and they came back another time and now they moved. They moved to Austin. We see him in the market all the time. And the first 600 club producers. This is great. Were they from Pinehurst, anywhere near Research Triangle where all the spook research companies are? Totally. Yeah, and they're both... So then they moved to Austin. Keep an eye on me. They're both educators. Wink wink. I'll bet they are. Milk! That's one mother I'd like to

44:23 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And his son, I met his son too. I think he's also moved his son. He's also in Austin. Interesting. Yeah. James Von Aiken in Temple, Texas, another Texan. 36333. In the morning, John and Adam, I must say you guys create an outstanding product that keeps me entertained and informed during my drudgery at work. I believe you should share in the fruits of my labors as it is bonus time again for me. My wife keeps telling me to donate again. There you have it. So here it is. Please send some job karma as I'm interviewing for a new job and MILF. He wants the same thing. Exactly the same thing. The exact same. Well, I can do a little different combo.

45:15 I can do the... This wife Kate. Okay. And it says keep up the good work. Alright. That's one hot milk, baby. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Do you really think they're pissed off? Do you really think they're gonna be mad about the vasectomy thing? Yeah. They should have told me. Fools. Did they tell you they had a vasectomy on the spot? Yes! At the dinner they yes, yes, they know that this dinner is yes. Yes. Yes. Well, that's your out. That's my out Yeah that and a bulletproof vest is my out and a helmet I know this I have this situation with the Economic hitman and he says stuff of that, you know, and once in a while I go well, maybe it's like this guy why he's

46:07 I'm gonna tell this to all our, we have a lot of people that provide us with information. I'm gonna make a blanket statement here. If you do not want us talking about something, specifically tell us. Don't talk to us. No, don't talk to us. Just stop. Well, you could do that too, but I will abide by a, this is not to be discussed in caps. And put that at the top of your note in case we're reading something live on the air. Do you remember the guy who sent in the thing, and even though I didn't reveal his name, he was talking about heroin and I said, oh, he's at the bottom, he's an addict, or he was an addict.

46:44 And we make it a joke about it. You got really pissed off about it. You made me sound like an addict I'm sorry you sent me an email Yeah, yeah, so yeah, if you do we don't use somebody's name even though in some situations that person could be identified I'm less concerned about it Yeah, but if you're right if you don't if you do not want something discussed say that I still often if I if I'm thinking about I'll ask is it okay if I use this on the show and I will, but it saves us a lot of time, saves another round of emails and all that stuff. So please do that. Yeah, and the other thing that you should know is that because we're a public distribution mechanism that acts as a news outlet, any mail sent to us is like letters to the editor. Yeah, true. And they can be used. Yes. With or without your name.

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53:53 I think we need to talk about Victoria, Newland and Ukraine. Yeah, okay. And the reason why is because we have a jingle. Are we good or what? Wow. Yeah, that's Matt, producer Matt. He's good, man. Do you know if we were working at a radio station... Nailed it. Yeah, I know. And he also did a short one. So, you know, so that was the long one. Then we just have a shorty to wind things up.

54:32 If we were working at a real station we'd have to have a meeting call the production guy Oh, yeah, call the music bed guy from you know, Tom legal pepper Tanner legal We'd have to call legal and it would be you There'd be some debate with legal our producer would have to take credit for winning You know, if it wasn't for me, you know, legal would have probably shut this down. So I did such a great job because I argued with him. Exactly. Exactly. I have a couple of.

55:09 Did you have anything to start off? I should actually I should ask you Newlands or you want to the new ones? Yeah, I want to do new one cuz I guess I have the RT version of Because RT is the one in the Russians kind of they now they deny they they clip this and you know Nobody knows for sure, but we pretty sure the Russians I have a number of Meta thoughts about this, but I want to hear yours first, okay? But that's a good scoff at me Sorry? You want to hear my first so you can scoff at my ideas? I'm not going to scoff at anything, but what is it? No, no, no. RT report, is that the one you want me to play? Yeah, play that and this will get us started. Alright, that's a long one. Okay. Our top story this hour, a scandal brewing as Washington's real stance on Ukraine may have leaked on the web and alleged phone conversation between US assistant

55:59 Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador to Ukraine has appeared on YouTube. Let's get more from Arteez Marina Portnaya live for us in New York. So Marina, what did the two allegedly discuss? Well, what you hear these two high US officials discussing is literally putting members of the Ukrainian opposition, moving them around like as if they were playing chess on how to configure a new government in Ukraine. The US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Payet and the US Assistant Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, were trying to figure out who would fit best in what position.

56:36 that one of the opposition leaders, Yatsenuk, is the guy with the economic experience and the best governing experience, that he's the guy that should be on the inside. They also mentioned Klitschko, another opposition leader, and one more, Tsini Bok. Hold on a second, I have what I thought was the full call, I have not heard that about the marriage.

57:21 Have you heard that bit? Yeah. Really? I think the two of us are going to come to pretty much the same conclusion about this whole thing. Well, but that was did it in there no no 30 more seconds newly formed Ukrainian government They spoke about keeping the moderate Democrats together. They also spoke about the fact that they need Something to make their plan stick once they a new government is formed if it starts gaining altitude they need some kind of symbolism, be it a UN figure to come into Ukraine, give a nod to it. They say if that doesn't happen, they said that the Russians could come in and torpedo any plans the US is now putting in place for the new Ukrainian government.

58:09 I left out the EU commentary because I think that was slightly a distraction, but anyway. Well, the real distraction of course is the actual fuck the EU that she says. That's what, yes, that of course is the actual distraction. I want to just go to the very end of that call. I have it here. I have the whole thing in the show notes. I just want to go to the very end to understand. I heard some things. I just want to make sure that I'm hearing the same things that you were hearing. And in general, you're here, the way these people talk, it's almost like you and I wrote this skit. You know, it's like, what do you think Yat should do? Ah, screw that guy. You know, he should stay home. We should study his history, his political tradecraft. We could have literally written this phone call.

59:02 That's and particularly for just go fuck the EU which is how these people talk and she and Victoria Nuland is a longtime elitist in Council on Foreign Relations. She's been intelligence. I think she was in She might have even been in the agency. I think for a while Which kind of makes sense with her backgrounds very spooky Can you just check for a second while I while I rack this up was she in the CIA? I just had a no about that. She was not right now. Okay, and you know Saki was Saki right so here so here's the the fuck to you, but then listen to what she's saying about She talks about Jake Sullivan who is Joe Biden's national security advisor

59:47 she talks about Biden himself and essentially what I hear her say, and then there's one word I want to focus your attention on, she's saying to the ambassador, I spoke to Jake, No problem, we got Biden to give the current Prime Minister an attaboy, which is... I've seen this in Silicon Valley. You did a good job. You get an attaboy, you get $500, an attaboy. It's like a little rub on the head. Give an attaboy to the Prime Minister. So they're playing all sides of this. Exactly, and I think we've got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will Be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. I love the mixed metaphor there by the way That's very strange if it gains altitude we're gonna shoot a torpedo at it. Yeah, really? And again the fact that this is

1:00:42 there right now i'm still trying to figure out in my mind why yanikovitch but in the meantime there's a party of regions faction meeting going on right now and i'm sure there's a lively argument going on in that group at this point but uh... anyway we could uh... we could land jelly setup on this one if we move fast so they work on but he worked on kushko and if you can just keep i think we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to mid-wise this thing. Yeah, so then just so you know, this is very clear they've got the Dutch, former Dutch ambassador to Ukraine who wrote a book about Ukraine.

1:01:21 That's the Sari guy who they're going to bring in, along with Ban Ki-moon. So they're literally saying, you know, we've got cover, we've got, you know, the United Nations is going to help us out. They're going to do the whole statecraft tradecraft thing of essentially putting together the government that the United States wants. But here's the end is interesting. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we probably... So he's asking for outreach to Yanukovych, who's the current prime minister. ...group on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place. So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note, Sullivan's come back to me via far saying you need Biden. And I said probably tomorrow for an attaboy and get the deeds to stick. Biden's willing. Now she says to get the deeds to stick. I googled myself nutty. I could not what I thought this might mean.

1:02:13 The deeds, would that be the drilling right deeds? What other deeds could she possibly mean that need to stick? I don't know but somebody that's overhearing this knows and let me put right here where what I think is going on as my basic meta thesis on this and this was triggered by a note that somebody sent me. referencing some guy, I can't remember, but it's not gonna be in the show notes, but it was a news analysis site where the guy's going on, condemning Newland for being an idiot because she must know that these conversations are being taped. And once he said that, I says, oh, okay. Now, he didn't get this, but as soon as he said it, I got it.

1:02:54 This is rehearsed, this was meant to be intercepted, they got lucky when the Russians ran it out, but this was a message to the Russians listening. to try to turn the conversation, to try to manipulate the situation. The fact that it went public I think was just a bonus and it got the benefit of the fuck the EU and all the other stuff and the reason I suggest that this whole thing is rehearsed, it was designed to be overheard, it was designed to be snooped on because there's no way that they, in fact this guy was right, there's no way that people at this level don't know they're being snooped on. So this was a, this whole thing is a rigged

1:03:32 bullshit conversation that was designed for the Russians to listen to, to tweak them a certain way, to push them this way or that way, or to get some sort of result. The rest, the fact that it went public, is just a triple bonus. They couldn't have asked for a better situation. Now they've got their message out there. We don't know what they're really trying to accomplish. Are they telling us that Klitschko is not to be one of the governors because they want him to actually be the governor? Or are they They saying fuck the EU because they actually want the EU to get more involved and actually take in the Ukraine, which has got to be a great benefit for us because the Ukraine is a is literally a terrible place. And it would be just dynamite for me to become part of the EU and screw it up. It's like a poison pill. It's like, hey, it's like, hey, want some cancer?

1:04:19 And so you have all you don't know it but if you look at it from the perspective that this is bullcrap and they're just talking to be heard to be listened to to be eavesdropped upon and the whole thing is manipulation at some very high level and I was talking to Buzzkill Jr. about this and I said here's the key this my my thesis may be wrong but if Victoria Nuland doesn't resign or quit or get reprimanded then my thesis is absolutely correct and I've seen no evidence that she's in the hot seat for this. I like it. I came to that conclusion and another one

1:05:00 And it was mainly based on this sound bite from her that I thought they thought there might be one other possibility other than to say It was pretty impressive Tradecraft the audio was extremely clear. So this is a giveaway to me. I thought it's also possible This was an FU from one of the agencies to the state so that maybe NSA is kicking back at state CIA Impossible. To what end? I don't know. I don't just to say I we can listen to anybody We can... Well that's a possibility. Or could be... Well somebody suggested it was one of Snowden's buddies. Possibly. Or somebody, just somebody in the NSA. But I think it was too pointed. I like that idea that somebody's pulling a stunt like this. But I think they could have found something better than this. And this is really pointed. It's about one thing and one thing only. It's not about their sex life. It's not about anything really embarrassing. Right, right. It's about the Ukraine. Well, hold on. The Ukraine. Yeah, but it's embarrassing to Newland.

1:06:04 who is definitely all in all state shill. It's embarrassing to Biden because he's treated like a you know like a like a fluffer. I don't think it's embarrassing to Newland at all. No the fuck the EU that's embarrassing to her. I don't think so. I think that was done on purpose. So in the of course I watched all of the State Department press briefings and you can always count on some good questions there I of course Matt was asking some some interesting questions, but then a shot or a shroff whatever his name is I forget his name Yeah, the guy sounds like Matt. No. He's the guy in the back. He's kind of the soft-spoken guy He there's a guy in the front that sounds like Matt. Yeah, this is a different guy how you discuss things do State Department officials routinely use encrypted phones mobile phones for their conversations so that comments like

1:07:03 that one do not become public? Well, Arshad, for obvious reasons I can't outline for you everything that we do. I can tell you that data encryption is available for all Department of State employee issued government owned BlackBerry devices regardless of rank. All Department of State government owned BlackBerry devices have data encryption, however they don't have voice Encryption and of course as you know I know you didn't ask this but just to add one more additional point always interesting when when the spokeswoman volunteers information classified processing and classified conversation on a personal digital assisted device is prohibited in accordance with department policy which of course is not what this was but now he's going I like this guy although he's by the way this guy's this is the guy with this guy's got voices like Matt's I know

1:07:55 Yes, when him and Matt are talking to back and forth it's you can't tell who's what's talking here's Matt He's not way in the back. Here's here's Matt Torrey's phone call Okay now go to him Okay, so they don't have voice encryption. Yeah the same cadence you're right, but it's noticeably different So nobody at the State Department has a phone where their voice is a mobile phone where their voice can be encrypted? I'm not going to outline it further for obvious reasons. I think we don't... What obvious reason? Why don't you just say, of course, our shit's locked up. We need to convey every step we take and every precaution we take. That's the information I can provide to all of you. Does the Secretary... I mean, I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask if the Secretary of State has a mobile phone or access to a mobile phone near him or her. This is a good question. I think it's a very normal question.

1:08:48 Does the Secretary of State communicate on encrypted phone lines? It's perfectly reasonable to ask, but I think it's perfectly reasonable not to answer either. So, I mean, here's the... No, this is really weird. That's why I take this. Like, why is that? And he's not having it either. Problem, though. If you're not answering that about the Secretary of State, it leaves open the possibility that he or she does not in fact have access to an encrypted cell phone, which would suggest that all kinds of... This is, this plays into your theory, John. They're honeypotting this thing. Yeah, yeah, Carrie doesn't have any encryption either. Yeah. Yeah, take a listen. They're honeypotting. Secret, top secret, classified, private comments that he or she might make could be accessed by

1:09:38 the intelligence services of other countries. I just said that classified processing and classified conversation on a personal digital assisted device is prohibited. Beyond that, all I'm conveying is that we're not going to outline every step and precautionary take and what we have access to, whether that's the secretary or anyone else in the administration. I think she's honeypotting. Now that I hear your theory, I'm thinking she's like, yeah, no, no, no, we don't have any, we can't tell you about that. Yeah, no, this is very suspicious in every way. I'm in agreement. And she was totally impressed with the tradecraft, the quality of the call. Let's listen to that again because that was, that was a, she's saying that in a certain way that bugged me. Other than to say it was pretty impressive tradecraft, the audio was extremely clear. What is she, yeah it was clear, it was very very clear.

1:10:35 What is she trying to say? I think she may be condemning our own people for not getting stuff. Dude, you made it sound too good. It's probably not as good as this. What are the Russians up to? No, I think it's different. I think what she's saying is, you made it sound too good. To make it sound like you're tapping us for Christ's sakes. No, you might be right. It's kind of a reverse. Yeah, like it sounds like you're on the... Hey, you guys! Sounds like you're on a conference call with us. Sounds like you're in the room. By the way, it was probably... we're on a conference call. That's what it was. That's exactly how it sounds. Because if you listen to the recording, both her and the ambassadors are equal in quality and... What do you think? Yeah, listen. I think we're... That sounds like a conference call.

1:11:19 It's just a third party conference call. Yeah, it does. It sounds like you're using one of those conference systems. Yeah. Yeah, one of those free ones. 1-800-CONFERENCE-CALL. Probably. I like your theory. I like it. I really wanted to try and shoehorn it into mine, but I think yours is much better. Makes a lot of sense. Now, the fact that she's not resigning or getting fired, I mean, that's kind of part for the Corset State Department. You can have your ambassador killed and you don't have to resign. Yeah, because move to another job. That gives us a different model. Just move to another job. I think the thing that has to be done now is to re-evaluate what is being said with it in mind that this could all be just misdirection, disinformation. They're saying one thing because they want the Russians to do something else. And then if you want to go one step higher,

1:12:17 Maybe the Russians actually sense that this is because they're not idiots They sense that this is bullcrap, and that's why they released the thing in the first place No, I I want to fishy about this whole thing. Let's face it. I want to stick with your theory Because essentially it is a move and Putin hat is at is it's his move he has to make a move and If he doesn't, just from a, I'm taking my shirt off and hunting down this tiger perspective, he has to do something. It's like poking the gorilla through the cage with a pencil. Don't you think he has to say something? He's going to have to. Well, I don't know, did you watch him in the Olympics when he was seated at the middle of everything? Of course. He was thinking about something. He looked preoccupied to me.

1:13:14 Now you can never tell with these guys. That's true and he's pretty stone-faced generally speaking but I don't know, yeah he has to do something. This clearly justifies some form of intervention in Ukraine. He has to make a move. Even the president, wow it's coming, it's kind of coming together. Do you remember, did you see the, I don't have a clip of it, the president was interviewed by Bob Costas. Which was a very funny interview because Bob Costas has like this stink eye and one eye is closed. His eye is closed because he's got an infection. And the president looks like he's been smoking 15 doobies. Yeah, the president, everyone thinks he was stoned. I don't think he was stoned but he looked tired for sure. And at the very end the president says, well you know Putin he likes to sit there and you play the tough guy. You know that's kind of his shtick.

1:14:00 Can you imagine someone saying that about our president? Hey, being a stoner douchebag is a shtick. I think they're poking him and if so I have to say bravo. Very very smart move. And they also gave the EU a little what if. And they deserve that. No, I said that's what I was gonna say. Newland's great. Yeah, I have to say she's great. She really is. If that really was set up that way and I think she has it in her, she's been around, man. Did you look her up or not? Yeah. Oh, no, I did. No, she's not an agency, but everything else smells of it.

1:14:47 And if you got to actually you have to go look it up. You have to go to the Wikipedia and look at just to see her picture. Okay. Wikipedia. All right, everyone do this at home. If you're in the car. This is a picture. This is a picture of a girl who's having too much fun. And it's funny because she's very cute. But when you see her whole body, which we haven't really seen because she's always behind the lectern, she's like Humpty Dumpty. I'm sorry to say it. I mean, I don't like to. Yeah, she could use a little exercise. She could get on. She could do a little spin class. Okay, daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor, okay. Coat Rosemary Hall. Is that a, is that like some huge like elite?

1:15:27 She went to Brown. Brown is spook heaven. Schote, I have no idea. Coach Schote. She speaks Russian, French and some Chinese. I didn't know that. Senior officer of Foreign Service. Spook. Hello. Worked for both Democratic and Republican during the Bill Clinton administration. She was Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Strobe Talbot. W. Bush, principal deputy foreign policy advisor to Cheney. Okay, she's in the zombie crew. U.S. ambassador to NATO, that's the military industrial complex. Special envoy for the conventional armed forces in Europe. Yeah, she's... And in terms of manipulation, you have to remember she's married to Robert Kagan. Yeah, that's it. Who is a Brookings guy and he's the founder of the Project for the New American Century, a right wing

1:16:19 Deal con well no these are the guys that said we need a new Pearl Harbor. Yeah before 9-11 took flight Unfortunately, they wrote that before 9-11 gee yeah, we need a new 9-11 and we need to blow up Syria That's also in the I you know I need to get that I need to review those documents again the the PNAC Because there's a lot of stuff in there that is I think is happening now I know Syria was listed in PNAC as we have to rubble eyes it I Wouldn't surprise me if there's something in there about Ukraine and Belarus and all these other kind of in-between countries. I had a clip of Matt, I don't remember what it is, let me just listen for a second. He was bitching about something in regards to this as well. Yesterday and Toria's phone call, you've seen the comments from Chancellor Merkel's spokesperson saying that this is unacceptable. Do you have any thoughts on that? Do you agree?

1:17:18 Well, I think if you were to, if Toria were standing back here again, she would convey to you that she apologized, obviously because that's not, doesn't reflect how she feels about our relationship with the EU. It's also important to note that she's been in close touch with EU officials since then, not about this, but about work we're doing together on Ukraine. So we have a long and enduring relationship with Germany. The Secretary was just there last week, as you know, and discussed a range of bilateral issues we work on, and we expect we'll be back to business as usual with them as well. Right, but she, in the phone call, she didn't say, F Germany. She said, U.S. Exactly. Yes.

1:18:00 I love Matt. He's really good. I felt the same way and Merkel you say you say fuck the EU which is what she said and why is Merkel all of a sudden why? Jump up. She was personally offended. Uh-huh Because that's that was as it's a giveaway use until it in the big magazines. That was telling that was telling Chilling, yet telling. Totally. blowing this out of proportion? I mean what's do you is what would your response be to her is it the diplomatic equivalent of like you know lighten up angola or something what what is it? I think I would I think we're just conveying that obviously we've moved forward in our relationship with the EU. Yeah blah blah blah blah blah. All right uh we close it out? Well I do have one thing because I just I it's not better than that clip but I do have one more little clip here that came from the

1:19:04 Also Pataki, Saki, whatever her name is. I keep saying Pataki when it's Saki. Saki. Saki. Saki the P. It's Saki, Gem Saki. And by the way, they're doing a different angle on her. You must look at the video. She has her hair, she has kind of one of those Yeah, you know what it is, it used to be like a posh spice, no what's her name, Victoria Beckham. Yeah, it's kind of cut down so it's longer in the front but it's a very straight edge cut and they're catching her on a different angle which I'm sure is someone thought about.

1:19:41 She looks kind of cute in this new shot. She's interesting because she's, you know, she worked for the agency so she looks like she's a field agent. She's got all these different looks. You'd never recognize her on the street. She's perfect. Yeah, and she's redhead so she has no soul which is great for her for being a spokeswoman. Perfect. So and you can tell when she tries to be funny. Now this next, this thing I got, this is Saki's an idiot clip. I see it. I want to set it up. This was the, and this is actually two clips put together. This was the clip that or two there were two clips with a little conversation in between used on RT. So RT when they were doing their package believed that these were the most important clips and one of them just seemed to ridicule the woman for having no sense of humor with that stupid joke about the fishing boat and I just thought it was again telling

1:20:33 that they would think these clips from, because you had different clips completely, I thought you were going to actually have one that is part of one of yours, but generally, but the RT people for some reason thought this was important. She's been in close contact with EU High Representative Ashton, also let me convey that she has been in contact with her EU counterparts and of course has apologized. But for these reported comments, of course. So you're not confirming that the comments are accurate? I saw this is very funny. I'm just not going to speak to a private diplomatic conversation, Arshad, but I'm obviously speaking to the content of the reports. You may know the story of how she lived on a Russian boat for about eight months when she was 23 and she learned how to perfect

1:21:19 perhaps certain words in a couple of languages so perhaps it speaks to that more than a pervasive viewpoint. You're not suggesting that she has a predisposition against Russia? No, I was suggesting that she learned Russian curse words and curse words on the fishing boat. But this was in English. I was making a joke about her learning curse words on a fishing boat. Wow, okay, alright, memo to Department of State. We'll do the jokes. Unbelievable. And I did hear that. But I like the one woman who took it out of context, does this mean she hates the Russians? That is beautiful. Immediate work. It is beautiful. Hey meanwhile how about all those athletes protesting about the gays huh? Yeah. Yeah exactly nothing happening. Let's close this segment out.

1:22:18 I love that. That's one of our better ones. That's an evergreen. It's a gem. It really is nice. Dozens of gay protesters were arrested, John, two days ago in Idaho. They had, I have to play this clip, this is from the gay news because Andy Hump got a copy of the thing. He looked like he was on the show. Andy, wait, wait, wait, what did you just say? Andy Hump got a copy of the thing? What is this? What are you talking about? Of the, of the, of the paper. Our white paper? Our white paper. Oh. And he looked, he would never respond to it, but he looked perplexed during the, because they were doing their, like your Obama bots.

1:23:05 You have a perspective and you stick with it and screw the facts. And he just didn't seem himself. But I have to play this as the clip that they were discussing some company got mad and they pulled out of their sponsorship and some nobodies, I don't even remember who they were and I don't have the clip of their name. He does have another, he mentions another major protest which I will then describe for you because a picture was flashed on the screen. IOC sponsors or you know the major Olympic sponsors, they are, but they're the first major corporation to condemn the anti-gay laws in Russia, the first!

1:23:42 You'd think by now someone else in the corporation would have condemned these laws. Also condemning it, second corporation, DeVry University, which you see advertising on TV and you think is cheesy, but in fact many Olympic athletes are students of DeVry University. So there was a protest against all this in London. We have a picture of it. Very creative. They did Swan Lake. Outside the Russian embassy there in protest of the Sochi Olympics and the anti-gay laws in Russia Also in London out of London a UK observer is calling for same-sex kissing from the podium in Sochi and the waving of rainbow flags Yeah, this is not gonna happen people no and it's and it's actually ludicrous now that they did this protest in front of the Russian Embassy in London

1:24:37 Four people. Swan Lake with four people? Four people dressed in blue tights and tutus with stuff written across their chest and they were dancing around. These four people. And this is newsworthy. So yeah, this is all this is this is a fail in my opinion. Well, it's a fail But it's I think it's wildly successful, but Brian here. Yeah. Well, yes here Brian the the gay crusader So this is his first real journey into the world that we live in every single day and

1:25:13 And you know, he sends me a story an hour. Apparently, you know Grindr? You ever heard of Grindr? The app Grindr? G-R-I-N-D-R? Oh right, right. Grindr is the gay... Yes, the gay app. Match.com. Gay hookup app. And it's, you know, it uses geolocation and unreliability information. Right, for stalkers. This has never... a heterosexual version of this has never appeared because it would be probably illegal. Yeah, but for the gay guys out here, it's very, very popular. and there's a version of this in Russia, and the Daily Mail wrote this whole article. It's totally bogative, of course. If you use this app in Russia, it pops up and says, you can be arrested because, you know, you're propagating gay propaganda, section 6, with a K, by the way, not even, they've even misspelled it, and so they have all these screenshots

1:26:06 You know, there's a story a day here in the United States and everybody is just so all in. I've given up. I'm not going to tell anybody what I think. I'd forget it. I gave up right away. Yeah, well, I still had, you know, me, I'm an idealist, John. You can pass the thing around. I think this little paper and I, yeah. That's the best thing. And if people read it, great. We did get a nice email back from the two Yale professors who had written a an op-ed in the Washington Post saying, hey, you know, do you know how bad it is in America? Are you crazy? And it was almost like they had read the white paper they had and Brian sent it to them and they went, oh crap, this is great. And they're not going to follow it up because, you know, they got tenure. They don't want to ruin their careers. No, no one wants to do that's why this is why the only reason why we can do this. We are the only people who can do this.

1:26:55 And then Pussy Riot, this is funny, Pussy Riot did a show with Madonna at Amnesty International, which of course is state department run and funded. So they're all in it, it's all hate Russia. And this is the liberated duo, but the rest of the band has disowned them. They're not even allowed to use the name Pussy Riot. They're not real, they've been hijacked. Didn't know this yeah, yeah, let me see if it's in the show no, it's pretty funny Okay, six members of Russian rock punk rock collective pussy riot have signed an open letter insisting Maria al-yokhina and Nadzhenza Tolko-Nanovia Not be billed as not be billed as members. It said the two had forgotten about the aspirations and ideals of our group and

1:27:46 The pair performed alongside Madonna at a concert in New York on Wednesday. Of course, Madonna's always there and she means well, but she's misguided. These two were jailed for two years after singing a protest song in Moscow known as Masha and Nadia. The six members of the collective who signed the letter, and all their names, they say their group belonged to a leftist anti-capitalist ideology, but the pair had become institutionalized advocates of prisoners' rights. Unfortunately for us, they are being so carried away with the problems in Russian prisons, they completely forgot about the aspirations and ideals of our group. Feminism, separatist resistance, fight against authoritarianism,

1:28:25 Authoritarianism and... Authoritarianism, Moratoriumism, Personality Cult, all of which as a matter of fact was the cause for their unjust punishment. And they're saying, hey, we don't... our performance are always illegal, staged only in unpredictable locations. We would never do a set up thing, build as here's Pussy Riot. Right on girls, absolutely. This is illegal performance. So they've been disowned. They're not even pussy riot. Well the thing is though you have to say they've got their the taste of prison and then they saw the injustices and now they're actually doing something that's not just a general bullcrap you know political statement we're against it. They're actually focusing now which I think is a probably a positive thing for those two women.

1:29:15 Okay, I think it's better. I think you're better off if you're one of these types these activists to find a problem and focus on it and do something about it rather than just bitch. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So anyway, so for me the games are ruined. There's too much too much terrorism talk. They just started! No, too much terrorism talk, you know, Widows 2.0, Black Widows 2.0, you know, we're all gonna blow up, it's just, you know, gay this, gay that. By the way, did you catch the the opening song? And this I thought was the funniest. When they opened the ceremony, the song was by a group called Tatu. Are you familiar with Tatu? No. Google T-A-T-U.

1:30:00 In 2000, they had a huge hit, and they're not really lesbians, but they portray lesbians in their video clip. They're Russian. Russian lesbians. This is like the ultimate FU. Like, hey, West, here's our lesbian song. Oh yeah, they look like pretend lesbians. Right, but I thought that was cool. Well, the other thing is they had in the second half where they had the really spectacular showing after they marched all these athletes out, they had a just an outrageously gay ballet that they presented. I don't remember which ballet it was. But there was this one ballerina and she was flirting with these two guys a fat guy and as an a soldier and then the fat guy and the soldier were gonna get together they look like they were gonna become gay lovers and then she broke them up

1:30:48 And then there was a third guy who looked like a guy from the YMCA group, Village People. And he was in there and now they were having these guys, there was three guys and a girl, it looked like some sort of a sexual thing. And it was just all, it was just, and nobody, of course, they noticed. Can I make a suggestion? Can I make a suggestion? Get out of the house a little more? Really like I don't know what you're seeing in all of this. I'm telling you I could I actually have it I kept it on the DVR because I knew you'd say something that I'm gonna send it to you on a DVD and I want you to tell me I'm wrong about this. Okay, this was a homoerotic ballet. That's what hello. It's ballet Ballet is by definition homoerotic. Oh, this was over the top and it's beautiful. Oh

1:31:38 Although I find the ballet... sometimes. I can do Broadway musicals, no problem. Ballet gets a little old for me. It's all right, it's a parody, you know. And I like the athleticism of it all, but I look at those guys' pants and I'm like, why am I sitting here? I'm inferior. Completely inferior. I'm a loser. They're using socks. No, that's not true. Well, they just guys work out a lot. Yeah, that should be it and I don't work out at all I'm down that bike all the time trying to vote. Come on grow grow grow grow. I see we both got the Well, I my clip is titled Sarajevo. Your clip is called Bosnia is next Let me see. I'll play yours first. Mine's just a short clip. Oh

1:32:28 Those are the headlines this hour here on France 24. I'm Shona Badacharya, thanks for joining us. Protesters fought with riot police in Bosnia's major cities in the third straight day of unrest. Large crowds set fire to government buildings including the presidential palace. Around 145 people were injured, more than half of them policemen. I'll play mine, hold on. And the looting and the robbery is taking place in the center of Sarajevo, including the very popular shopping mall in the heart of the town. To my mind, there are two major reasons for these protests. This is the poverty and injustice. Bosnia has more than 40% of unemployment rate, and it's the number one for the corruption in Europe. The people are very unsatisfied with it, and they are demanding changes, demanding law to take place.

1:33:37 Yeah, rubalization I think is in play. And when they set the White House on fire, you know something's up. Yeah. Rubalization is probably needed. Bosnia, they just got done being rubalized. Well, they weren't rubalized enough. It's very, very sad. And we can bring our guys in there to rebuild the thing in the... so it looks like another Bechtel operation, you know, these modern cities that we're putting up here and there, like, before the Chinese do, I guess. Based on our previous conversation about heroin and fentanyl and Narcan, we received a couple of emails.

1:34:25 which I think will be kind of interesting to go through. It's kind of off the news but you know once the Olympics are over then we'll get back I guess Hoffman you know. We got the Academy Awards coming up so it'll be talked about again. Oh yeah they have a big tribute to him. So he's one of our producers who says most people I know that are addicted and as it turns out we have a fair amount of people who have had or are having their experiences with all kinds of narcotics, legal and illegal, and also Narcan. But this particular producer says, most people I know that are addicted had their first exposure to opiates at the dentist. Vicodin is the number one prescribed drug in the country. Generic name, hydrocodone. They get you hooked. If you want to get clean, you have to get addicted to another drug like suboxone or methadone. And he goes on to say, doctor's just a business like everybody else. Just gotta keep pushing it all the way through.

1:35:28 and I found that to be interesting that Vicodin would be the gateway drug. Yeah, don't you think so? I've had Vicodin. You know, you take a pill once in a while. But I literally got it from the dentist, which is kind of funny, but I didn't get hooked on it or anything. But here's the story that turned me on the most, and I was of course, you know, one of my, part of my thesis is that perhaps we are poisoning the heroin supply to get people back to the expensive pharmaceuticals. It turns out, in 1926, the United States government poisoned alcohol, which resulted in 30,000 people dying, I think, in like a month, to get people off of the illegal stuff and prepared for

1:36:33 you know, to get them out of the speakeasies and to prepare them to either, I guess when the 21st amendment was passed. When was that passed? That was, I don't know exactly. It was after World War I, I think. Yeah, both. But this article very clearly, because of course there was a lot of denaturing of alcohol so people couldn't just take, you know, there was alcohol around but the government and states of course would poison it but denature it so that it wouldn't really be tasty or drinkable at all. But this article very clearly lays out how the government was complicit in actually poisoning alcohol to get people to not use the illegal product.

1:37:18 Which I didn't know they had done. I didn't know that till right now, but it doesn't surprise me. This is classic government looking out for you. That's poison to public. Maybe that'll help our cause. In the 70s, the government sprayed the Mexican marijuana fields with Paraquat. Right, which is toxic. Paraquat is interesting. I used to, when I was, worked at the, as an air pollution inspector, I had the standard oil, standard oil Chevron chemicals made Paraquat. And the stuff was just, I don't even know if they make it anymore. The stuff was, unfortunately, it was a nasty product because it looked, it had the consistency, it looked like Coca-Cola. And every year, the number of people died because they saw it in a bottle or something and they thought it was Coke. And just one little sip of it and you're done.

1:38:10 Anyway, onward. Yeah, so I thought that was interesting to note that that is not foreign for our government to poison the supply to get people off of it. And I was watching the McLaughlin group and normally Eleanor is a total twat. She, and I don't have a clip of her because she was just so good it wasn't even funny. She had it everything. She had it down. She's like, oh people are getting hooked on the prescription drugs. Either the doctor takes them off or whatever. It's just cheaper for them to go to heroin. She had it completely down. She knew exactly what was going on. Pat Buchanan, on the other hand, is either he's a total moron, possible,

1:38:56 Or he's lying purposely. Outlawing heroin will at least save some people from taking one. It ain't gonna save them all. You wouldn't necessarily, you would probably not know this, but the UN has been sounding the alarm about increased opium production in Afghanistan. But the White House did not connect the dots. Oh, forget the UN for heaven's sakes. Everybody knows that the, frankly, you know who finished off the drug business in Afghanistan? The Taliban outlawed it and burned up all those fields and everything. And now they're back. population and they decided now they embrace the poppy field. Does he really think that's true? I don't know what he thinks. The guy's unbelievable. He ran for president. Well okay then yes he must believe it because that's about the level of the intelligence of our presidents. Anyway so just to finalize my addiction segment here I have been searching

1:39:54 for some backup to my thesis that Facebook is a gateway drug. And I have found a Harvard study, very interesting, who did MRI scans, and they did MRI scans of people, a lot of it's about the anticipation, by the way, of getting a notification that someone has commented on your thing or your like. But the MRI scans of patients waiting for Facebook feedback and playing a slot machine and those using cocaine look exactly the same. That makes sense. Self-disclosure... And the people who are Facebook addicts seem to have an addictive personality to begin with. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have any... I have no research on that yet, but I did get this. This is from the... Is this the MIT... No, this is the Harvard study. Self-disclosure is strongly associated

1:40:56 Self-disclosure. This is what you do on Facebook. Self-disclosure. Strongly associated with increased activation in brain regions that form the mesolimbic dopamine system, including the nucleus acumen bends and ventral tegmental area. People are even willing to forego money to disclose about themselves. So my thesis And I think what's kind of interesting, if you have a friend or a family member who uses Facebook and they're on it a lot,

1:41:34 Look over their shoulder. They just say hey, can I just watch where you scroll through your newsfeed and Observe what they're doing because what you will see is that nothing you will see there is of any interest to you zero And and I'm convinced if they do if I were to do it I'm and if I was doing Facebook and someone else would look who's a Facebook addict They would find nothing of interest because it's not about actually what you're reading. It is 80% about affirmation being made to feel good because you have a lousy life and you're depressed and the Olympics suck and you have a vasectomy, whatever the problem is, and it's a lot more these days, Facebook is a drug. It functions like a drug where you post something about yourself, which is always a lie. Amazing cupcake! Beautiful sunrise! I love this analysis of yours for this, by the way.

1:42:31 Nothing is funnier. I really believe no, no, you're dead serious That's why it's so good because everything you say is accurate and I have and well I was gonna say I don't use Facebook, but I know people who do I said it before and and yeah I could this all makes nothing but sense to me. I'd be one of the reasons I dislike it so much me too me too and and because I have And Twitter is not the same by the way. It is not the same because you know the first thing you do is you collect your friends right? This is not really broadcasting. This is because if you do something on Twitter, you know you get a retweet. Big whoop.

1:43:08 But you want your friends and your family and your distant friends who are, you can't have more than 5,000. And by the way, you rank them, you know, it's like you have acquaintances, unfaithful acquaintances, so you'll see their stuff more often. And I think this is why Google Plus is not working. Because you need this, the plus one, they tried to do that, but they've messed up the whole friend thing with the circles. That's where Google Plus, they didn't understand. And I think Facebook, Zuckerberg is a genius. If you've never seen the movie or heard the history... They started this thing out making it with algorithms. If you saw the movie, drew the algorithm on the window so that you would see people that you would be attracted to, would be interested in. And so they're very, very smart and they just, they made this crack, this drug. It's like snow crash. You know, it really is, excuse me, I have something in my throat. It truly is built to trigger your mechanism, trigger your brain. I'm very curious.

1:44:09 how paper is going to work, which is their new app. I haven't played with it at all because it looks like that is much more of a consumption versus what is really the drug and that is the post something about your lousy miserable life. If you have nothing to say then you can always post one of those pictures, a kitten or some joke or a link to something unbelievable! You won't know, this is crazy! So that people will then re-share it and like it. And I know a lot of people and I'm friends on Facebook, very very smart people

1:44:48 And I can see they're depressed. They are depressed and they need the feedback loop. It's a necessity. And it's very, very unhealthy in my opinion. Very, very unhealthy. And particularly if like most teens you like drinking energy drinks, you know, add some Red Bull to that. You're hyping, your whole body is up just going nuts. And you get this, you know, this little, oh, I got a like. Oh, I got a comment. And by the way, likes, and you can, John, maybe you can observe this if you know anyone who has Facebook. So people will scroll through their timeline and when they really can't be bothered to make a comment or, you know, but they really do want that person to like them later, you click like. I got to click like, otherwise he won't like my stuff. Yeah, no, the whole like thing is, I think is somewhat nauseating.

1:45:43 Like us on Facebook and the other thing I've said it before I'll say it again because I like saying it which is I hate any any website or initiative or software that says sign in using Facebook and I've run into ones that won't let you sign in using anything you have to have Facebook bullcrap Yeah, this happens a lot other apps that you can't but that that's that's because why would another app want you to do that? It makes no sense Because when you do that, it makes no sense to me. Oh, then you need to do a little research. In the development program, if you do that, you get all this information about these people because you get to have all the things they've posted, their movies, their preferences, their sexual preferences, their status, their school, their friends, their friends' information. You should look it up. If you use the Facebook login and you're in the developer program, you get so much info.

1:46:43 I mean tons of it and that's that's why they do it man and yeah sure there's some ease of use but really it's all about just getting information so you can you know satisfy your venture capital investors. You're telling me that when I'm at some site that's you know Sign in on Facebook. They want me to sign in on Facebook so they can further exploit me or get book on me or figure out what? Yes, let me let me ask you that. Let's look at the equation differently. You're getting a free thing that someone developed, someone put money into, probably venture capital or angel investors. They really want to be purchased by Facebook because that's the only way out these days. Yeah.

1:47:32 You're getting the free shiny trinket. I'm getting free nothing. It's always always pay somehow. Exactly. This free thing doesn't work. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, you're right. It does not work very well. Well, what works is that if you have people like our great producers who come in and help us finance the show by becoming producers, then it works that way, but then it's not free. And it shouldn't be. James Rockle, we'll start with, out of Waterloo, Ontario, 12345. Wait a minute, where... He sent us a note. Funny, I have a different name here. You don't have James Rockle? No. Right under Michael Miller, number 11 on the spreadsheet?

1:48:29 Uh, no, I have completely different names. You sure you got the right spreadsheet? Oh wait, maybe I got the wrong spreadsheet. I think you have the wrong spreadsheet, darling. Oh, darling. Number nine. Which show are we on? Oh yeah, I do. Somehow last week's spreadsheet opened. Oh, I see. Okay, I got it. I got it. I know what happened. Oh, I'm glad someone's paying attention to the show. I wonder, I couldn't find, I'm looking for some guy's name to X out because he doesn't want his name revealed and I have to be careful. Okay, you're talking about David Bebber. Yes, yes, yes, yes. But his also won 2, 3, 4, 5. I know, I know. That's what threw me for a moment there. Yeah. I want to see what he, he does have a note, we're not going to read these notes, but this one, Statler and Waldorf took me months to get that bingo list working, to work out and here I am already hit it a second time.

1:49:25 This is a true reason for the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 donation. Huh. I'm not, I'm not getting what he's talking about. Sebastian Allscher, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 out of Frankfurt, Germany. And he wants, I think he, the, go click on Clinton-divorce.com. Yeah. Okay. I know we have this. We have different permutations now. What is it? What's the joke? Well we have ClintonDivorce.com and now Clinton-Divorce.com. Well I'm sure it just forwards to No Agenda Show doesn't it? Oh okay. I can check it. Don't forget Obama Divorce is coming up. Oh wait a minute that's the one we had. Hold on a second. You're right. Clinton-Divorce.com.

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1:52:55 to do the seal with the ring, which you have to have sealing wax. You have to go to a stationary store, you have to go to noagendashow.com. But you do get sealing wax with your night ring. Yes, you do, and you use it up if you use it much. But Eric at the noagendashow.com, he sells it. But you can get it all over the place. Instead... Is he doing refills? Is that what he's doing? Yeah. So instead... Count the money here, used a apparently his wife's strawberry scented lipstick? Paraffin candle. Oh. Yeah, how'd that work out? Which is not the same. And so there's a gob of goo and because paraffin is just an oil-based product, it just, the whole envelope is just stunk of strawberries. It stunk up the house. And you know, it was all greasy. And your mail carriers are angry. Because it soaks into the paper. So you get this gob of grease. There's no evidence that this was ever done. It worked out at all. Don't do that.

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2:00:13 N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n- Some of you will recall that on July 8th, 1947, a little more than 66 years ago, numerous witnesses claimed that an unidentified flying object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and mule ranch just outside of Roswell, New Mexico. You recall this, John? Oh yeah. This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered up by the U.S. Air Force as well as other federal agencies and organizations. What you do not know

2:01:20 is that in the month of April, the year 1948, nine months after the historic day, the following people were born. Albert A. Gore Jr., Hillary Rodham Clinton, William J. Clinton, John F. Kerry, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Charles E. Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama Jr. Senior, sorry. This is the obvious consequence of aliens breeding with sheep and jackasses, of course. And I almost flubbed the line, too. I got a book for people to read. It's another one of these alternative

2:02:24 histories, essentially. This is probably, I think, the definitive book about Roswell, at least insofar as it ranks the highest in both controversial for the government side of the equation and the Flying Saucer people's side. I recommend everybody read this book. It's quite entertaining. It's called The Day After Roswell by Colonel Philip J Corso. And I did a bunch of research on Corso, including reading a bunch of papers that were apparently released from the Freedom of Information Act by the FBI that have since been suppressed, but they're available if you dig around long enough. And the guy has got, he's definitely got the creds that make him credible, even though there's, and the people that criticize him and this book

2:03:16 seemed to be sketchy and so I would say that if you want to read about you know flying saucers, alien technology, a couple things he says in there and again I'm not completely buying into it because it's written with a fictional sound base, the voice is fictional or it seems fictional even though it's not supposed to be. He claims, among other things, that once the Roswell wreck, which was a flying wing, was grabbed and hauled out of town on the back of a flatbed truck, they took a bunch of alien technologies out of it, which developed into the transistor, integrated circuits, the laser, and a number of other things, pulse beam weaponry, and a number of other things that actually make

2:04:06 fairly, get fairly close to making no sense in the way things work with science because he came out of the blue with a few of these things. And this is a very funny book to read because you it's long so it seems long. I'll read this I'll read this I'll put it in the show notes. You will like the book. I'm sure it's matter of fact. It's just like yeah these things have landed we've been using these technologies that we steal from these guys. We're under attack. You'll love the book as it talks about You, me, surely will like this book because you bring up these wars in space, heat wave, defense, strategic defense initiative, Star Wars and all the rest of this that was put in play was specifically to bring down alien saucers that if they ever invade. It's time to invade. Get the old geezer first.

2:05:02 It's a book everyone should read. I'm not saying it's the... but there's a number of interesting facts. We'll put it on the list. We'll put it on the list. A couple of those side notes. You know me, I'm all in. I know you're all in. There's a couple of things that I personally know that kind of like make you wonder about what he's claiming. And it's hard to find this stuff out. There used to be Northrop, the guy who invented the American flying wing, was told to stand down and stop all flying wing production shortly after this crash occurred. Coincidence? By strong sermon. Coincidence? Wrote the foreword for this book. Read the book.

2:05:41 And the other thing is Shockley, one of the inventors of the transistor. George Morrow used to be a famous computer guy until he died and came out with a bunch of, in the 80s mostly. And he worked at Shockley Labs in Silicon Valley and the people working there Because Shockley never did any did much of anything in terms of new designs or ideas they all wonder where he got the idea for the transistor because they there was no evidence that he could have done this in the first place and So this book is a band. I don't know how Corso got away with writing this book But apparently he was he was read in so early in the game In 1940s in the 40s that he never had to sign all these you know will shoot you if you say anything documents

2:06:35 A very good book. Good book. Wow, that's quite an endorsement. And I'm not buying it necessarily, but I have to say in terms of an alternative explanation for a lot of things, the book is great because it covers... you'll see. You'll be impressed. Anyway, Day After Roswell, it's as cheap as a buck 19 in Valor books. But you know I put it on the Kindle. It's a very fast read on the Kindle the paper white I Know you do Hey, if this ever happens to me do not accept this news report founder and CEO of American title services in Centennial Colorado was found dead in his home this week the result of self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun

2:07:25 John, if they ever find me... He had nails to the head. Well yeah, he actually had seven nails to the head. Seven nails to the head. And they're calling it suicide. Please. I love that kind of thing. Please, when this... If you hear this... Seven or eight, they couldn't even count. Self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun fired into his torso and head. Yeah, that sounds like the way to go, doesn't it? I know what I'll do. I'll shoot some nails in my torso and then in my head. This is, this is, please do not allow that to be ruled a suicide. And I want a full title screen on the dead segment. Damn it. Okay. Um, we got a flu report. Oh, I want to say, do we need, uh, do we need to set it up with it? Like we actually have less flu deaths than you would have in a normal cycle, but no. I just want to mention, by the way, I'm going to say it again. I've said it before. I'll say it again.

2:08:30 The swine flu vaccine when it first came out, everybody was lined up around the blocks to get it. Do you think the entire society would be immune to this disease? Can I do the jingle? Yes, please. I'm sorry. We got a lot of mileage out of that jingle. And this comes as statewide deaths from the flu hit 202 yesterday. The Monterey and Santa Cruz County Health Departments say they have plenty of flu shots to go around, but they ordered them from manufacturers and could run out temporarily. Another free flu shot clinic right around the corner, this time at Salinas Valley Memorial Healthcare Hospital.

2:09:10 It's happening on Saturday, February 22nd. The clinic will be set up in the parking lot from 11 a.m. until 2 p.m. Anyone from the Tri-County area can be vaccinated. Come on, it's good for you. Get your free shots, free shots over here. You know what I'm reminded of? I did first and when they said, I visualized a bunch of people standing around a parking lot to get a shot. When lobotomies were first invented, and I think this was in the twenties, I could be, it could be the thirties. I think it was probably the twenties. It became a very popular, uh, method for calming down the hysterical. A lot of women.

2:09:52 Lobotomy. You drill in the head and pull out a little bit of brain matter. You don't have to even do that. Apparently, they used to do lobotomies in Central Park the same way they're doing these shots in the parking lot. People would line up, there'd be a doctor there and he'd have a long needle. Wait a minute, people would go to the park for this? Yeah. It was very popular for a short period of time. No, no. Yes. No. Yes. Wow. And the guy had this very long, very crazy kind of a needle and what he'd do, because this is why it was no big deal, they would take your left eye and open it up, put the needle in behind the eyeball and really seriously go to a spot in the brain and then nick like the connective tissue between the frontal lobes and the rest of the brain and then you'd go home.

2:10:45 That's was the that was because these were very popular for a while and everyone then they started noticing it wasn't working out but for the most but it would calm down the one calm calm down the wife. I always thought that they could that that's how the vibrator was invented that the that the the woman would be hysterical in fact they called it hysterics and they'd send her to the doctor and he said oh well what you need is is you need the orgasmatron And the doctor had the first vibrators and it would... that's why you have all these movies back in the day when, oh, the handsome doctor and they all were in love with the doctor because he basically had this big jackhammer and the women... Yeah, if you look up the history of the vibrator you'll see exactly this. Because women were hysterical because they basically they just needed an orgasm. Well... Now this guy could do two for in the park. Hey baby, open your eye and your legs.

2:11:40 It's a lot of weird stuff that goes on. And you know what? We're here to keep people from getting involved. Thank you. And in 80 years from now, people might be saying, can you believe those idiots? He went into the park and got shot up with some kind of goop. So Bill Maher is a douchebag. Okay. Fact. Hold on a second. Do we have it? I think we have. Yes, we do. We have it right here. On the best podcast in the universe. Okay, all right I'm ready. All right so Bill Maher goes on a rant against again it's an ageist rant and by the way and they had S.E. Cupp. She's the token right winger on MSNBC. She thought this was hilarious everything you're about to hear and listen to the laugh was more she was

2:12:39 just thinking Mar's so funny, let's make fun of old people and bitch about the fact that they get Social Security, which to me is peculiar because as a liberal that Mar, Professor Fentrell, they're all for Social Security it seems to me, but not when it comes to old people because they should all just starve to death in the streets apparently. So let's just play a series of clips giving you some insight into this guy's, something's wrong with him. The first one. And finally, new rule in the battle for government giveaways. We have to stop thinking in terms of rich versus poor or black versus white and admit it's really a war between the young and the old and the older winning. When it comes to meeting the needs of our seniors, money is no object.

2:13:28 You know, in America we talk a lot about entitlements and who are the takers and who are the makers. Here's the bottom line from the current issue of Harper's. Federal yearly spending per child, $3,822. Federal yearly spending per senior, $25,455. Seniors keep asking, what kind of world are we leaving for our grandkids? Well, one where Head Start, nutrition assistance and child welfare are being cut. These days when grandpa finds a quarter behind your ear he keeps it Now of course the granddad the old lady we're talking about here has to pay for utilities and rent and and housing and food grocery How are you comparing it to some child that's being raised by my parents?

2:14:19 Are you saying that the kids should get $25,000 and the oldster should just get nothing? And let them move in with the kid and the sons and daughters? I mean what kind of... What is he trying to say here? It's also just comedy, John. I mean, you know... It's very serious for comedy. Play part two. But that was part two, you mean part three? Yeah, part three. But let's not kid ourselves where our tax dollar goes. It goes to grandma because she votes and young people don't. So this is his like, his conclusion is all about the vote. And that's the reason they should get nothing.

2:14:58 He goes on and on, he makes jokes about the penal pump, Viagra, all the sex that's going on in the house. Apparently there's another thing you run into with liberals. The idea that anyone over 60 has sex is disgusting to them. Oh, it's just weird, weird, weird. It's weird. Why would you have sex? Like my parents having sex. Weird, weird. I can't think about it. Very juvenile. My grandparents. They were well into their 80s. I knew there were some hanky-panky still going on with them. And I thought that was beautiful. Good for them. And anyway, this finishes with Marr Part 4. But here's what I don't understand. Why, if seniors are having all this government subsidized fun, why are they the angriest people politically? And they are. 76% of seniors say they're quote, dissatisfied with the way things are going in the country today.

2:15:59 Why? You're getting all the money and half the pussy. Alright, that was funny. That brought S.E. Cupp into hysterics. She just thought this whole thing was funny. He had a joke about Astro Glide as long as they don't mix it up with the polydent. I mean, the materials. But it's hateful. And actually it was Buzzkill Jr. watching this and he says, you know what's interesting to him? and he's a Lacanian philosopher basically, he says that generally speaking the comedians of the world are the stem from the court jester. The court jester is a guy who who with within reason ridicules the king, ridicules the cardinal, ridicules the people. To entertain them, to entertain the elites. Yes but it's but the target is the powerful, it's always the powerful. You don't start targeting the people, you don't start targeting the

2:16:56 elderly, you don't start targeting people that are usually helpless. What kind of a comic, and Bill Maher does this constantly, targets the people because they're idiot Republicans or because they're old and in the way? And he never targets the powerful. He's a pathetic example of what comedy has become with these liberals. Right on. Well, that's why I don't watch him. Well, it's hard to watch. He goes on these rants. I mean, I always catch, I try to catch the new roles. He's got a couple of jokes in there, but this and then to watch S.E. Cupp all in. Oh, why would you? Come on, man. Why would you do that when you have the president's podcast? I mean, seriously, you want some entertainment, you want some quality programming, my friend, you go to the president's podcast. Yeah, hit me.

2:17:54 And there's a couple of memes in here that we just need to be aware of. I want to work with Congress on this agenda wherever I can. But in this year of action, whenever I can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more American families, I will. I've got a pen and I've got a phone. All right. There you go. That's our president. Putin is shooting bears with his riding horse back with his bear back with his shirt off. Our president has a pen and a phone. Very, very sad. Talking about the emasculation, I have two clips that are about Syria that, actually a couple of Syrian clips, but I have the two that I want to play back to back. One of them is Susan Powers. Ah, this is our new ambassador to the United Nations. She did a little, they have a name for that thing. They call it a stakeout, I think.

2:18:50 When she goes to the microphone at the United Nations. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's called this. Let me just check. If you go to video.state.gov, that's where I was. I think I saw this. It's, let me see. Yes, Security Council Stakeout. stakeout well I'm listening to her and then there's this United Nations spokes guy who comes on at some time after her and he's the number one guy under Banky Moon hmm I I don't know I can do this a lot of different ways, but I think it's just good to play him back-to-back because Powers has the masculine voice and then you can hear what the guy sounds like I know regime statements this morning describing a willingness to evacuate innocence Given that the regime up to this point has described just about anybody living in opposition territory as a terrorist

2:19:48 and has attacked them as such. You know, we have reason on the basis of history to be very skeptical and frankly very concerned about anybody who falls into regime hands. Is that the one you wanted or not? The one that said, is UM ambassador... I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought I had the wrong one. Hold on. I got it. I got it. I got it. This is the guy. This is the male. Now you heard the female with the male voice. Now you're gonna hear the guy. The United Nations and humanitarian partners have pre-positioned food, medical and other basic supplies on the outskirts of homes ready for immediate delivery as soon as the green light was given by the parties for safe passage. Aid staff are also on standby. And then we have Jade Johnson, who was our brand new Secretary of Department of Homeland Security.

2:20:37 Who was interviewed by Jane Harman. We know individuals from the US, Canada and Europe are traveling to Syria to fight in the conflict. At the same time, extremists are actively trying to recruit Westerners, indoctrinate them and see them return to their home countries with an extremist mission. That's pretty alarming stuff when you think about the thousands of folks that have gone to Syria either to simply fight the Bashar al-Assad regime or to be trained. Folks! Well, no question about it. And some of those folks, by the way, Syria is pretty close to Russia, might try to go... Syria is pretty close to Russia. Should we look at the map for a moment? Jane Harman? She really means geographically, John.

2:21:28 This woman is such a moron. She was in Congress. Syria's pretty close to Russia. Might try to go up through the Caucasus and attack at Sochi too. The Caucasus? The Caucasus. It's like 10,000 miles the other direction. How is she? Am I crazy? Am I missing something? Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong at all. Syria's not at all near. She's an idiot. So Syria is the apple. I'm trying to get the distance. I'll give you in a second. Okay. But here's the quote. Here's the money quote. So Syria is the Afghanistan of 2014. It's a new training ground for a global terror threat. Well, we're trying, our intelligence services are pretty good. Pretty good! And we're trying to find out who these folks are, where they're going, and if we're good at tracking where they are, we will find them before they return and cause us harm. We'll kill them! How far is Syria from... It's 1,500 miles.

2:22:25 No, that's not that. That's not that. I thought it was further than that. It's still a three-hour flight. Yeah, these guys are on camels. Yeah, it would take about a couple months. But Syria is the new Afghanistan. This is very important because what she's saying is, I guess she's trying to tell us that terrorists come from Afghanistan even though we know the terrorists were in Pakistan and, oh, I know, Germany. That's where the terror cell was. And, oh, yeah, they were Saudi Arabians. Okay, turn off your television people or turn it on when the president has a visitor. We had a visitor from a very highly ranked visitor at the White House, Sweet Mickey Martelli of Haiti and you'd never guess. How did he get here? On a car? On the poop express. Car with the pontoons? On the poop express. Of course, to review, there are still approximately 150,000 people homeless

2:23:31 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that can't be because the Clinton Bush guys, they took in billions and billions of dollars and then people, they phoned in for 10 bucks a pop. Just send your cash. Now there's still 150,000 people. These people should all be living in first-class accommodations by now. 150,000 people living in squalor in tents where rape and sickness of course the United Nations from the Blue Helmets came in and gave everybody cholera cholera and what's pooping that people are dying yeah the united nations refuses to pay a nickel thousands of people die what is it uh restitution and uh just horrible horrible of course we have the the bill clinton suite at the new hotel we we have all that all gone and we know that's them there we've got the gold and mineral rights up there in the hills but 150 000 people by the un's own admission

2:24:33 billions of dollars missing just missing no one knows where it is and I haven't forgotten the big George Clooney oh yeah Clooney was there Clooney to the benefit and Bon Jovi before everyone's oh my gosh oh so horrible how quickly we forget but our president will just play along at the four-year anniversary of that tragic event that devastated such a large portion of of the mobilization of international support which the U.S. helped to lead but also because of a strong leadership from the Haitian people themselves. You'll recall that you know there was like there were riots there was all this fake elections. The guy they wanted was the other musician. He got a big head and they kicked him out and said get the fuck out. Don't be flying on private jets you moron.

2:25:38 There was like all the scandal. We remember this stuff. We track it. We're not falling for this, you liar. Liar. President Martelli, we've begun to see progress. Progress? The economy is growing. Security is improving. Security is improving, John. Economy is growing. How about the 150,000 people in the tents? Infrastructure's getting rebuilt. Oh, we're rebuilding the rubble? Rubble's been removed. I'm sorry, we're removing the rubble? Health facilities are beginning to open up, schools are... Health facilities are... Does this... Is he... Is he... He must be high. How can you sit there and lie like this? And where is the media? Excuse me. ...starting to get back into place and businesses are starting to return to Haiti. It's been a very slow and difficult

2:26:28 to pooping In your tent, the children of Haiti. This is wild. Opportunity. Oh, I'm sorry. Making what? Baseballs? And prosperity and security. Security! Prosperity and security! This is the one that really makes me angry. And I'm very encouraged by the fact that

2:27:12 Haiti has now made progress on election law that could ensure elections this year. Yeah, we can bring the same shills in again? Help to resolve some of the political roadblocks. Political roadblocks? Oh, you mean the corruption and the ballot box stuffing and the lying and the cheating? Stalled some progress in the country and I appreciate the President's efforts on that front. I'm looking forward to hearing where we can help in other reforms that I know he cares about such areas as human rights, prison reform, dealing with... Prison reform? It's laughable. It's just laughable. ...that are inhibitors to progress in any country, including ours. And... Now he's just making it up. We will continue to stand by

2:28:09 Haitian democracy, Haitian leadership and the Haitian people in the slow and steady progress that needs to take place. So, Mr. President, welcome. We're very proud of our relationship with Haiti and we look forward to deepening it. Now if you're this guy, what would you do if you just got this from the President of the United States who clearly is all in on keeping you in there so that you can run drugs through the country and have cheap labor? What would you do? I'd say, Mr. President, where's the billions of dollars collected by the Bush-Clinton Foundation, the billions of dollars collected by the marathon event that they had on all TV stations? Around the globe. That's what I'd ask. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to first thank the people of the United States. Oh, you're welcome. You're more than welcome. You're welcome. The government and you, Mr. President.

2:29:13 for always standing by the Haitian people. No, just standing by. Wait, wait, wait for it. Also like to acknowledge the presence of the first lady. Oh yes. Compliment the president's wife. That's what you got to do. Michelle Obama in Haiti after the earthquake. Yeah. I'd like to thank her for her support also. Through this meeting Mr. President, I hope we have a chance to discuss matters pertaining to Security, security in Haiti, security in the region, our ability to fight together narco-traffic. Ah, there it is. To fight narco-traffic. Uh-huh. Sure. Now you disgust me. I know it's a pet peeve of yours. Yeah, yeah, but not enough to play the jingle, but yeah, it is a big pet peeve. Interesting train route being set up. Oh, another one? A new one? Yeah, yeah, this is a new one. So we have the Strait of Hormuz.

2:30:15 Which is very important. Of course, that's... Does Iran control that? I think they do, right? I believe so. Yeah. And it's very important to be able to get primarily, of course, oil and freight through this channel. It's 21... You should really pull up a map to see the Strait of Hormuz. Are you doing it? Yeah, I'm gonna do it right now. In fact, I'll do it with you. It's kind of cool, this. Strait of Hormuz. Let's see if I get it. Here's a nice map. All right, here's the map. So we got the strait there. You got Iran on the right-hand side. And on the left-hand side, you got Oman. Now, I need to zoom out a little. Actually, the strait itself is really bordered on the north by Iran, and Oman is at the bottom. Well, you're looking at it at an angle. Yeah, it depends on how your globe is turned. Oh, yeah, if you're looking at it right. If I flip it over. It does kind of depend on how you look at it. Okay.

2:31:15 Um, so what they're doing now, I just have to zoom out for some reason Google doesn't want to zoom out very well on me. What they're doing is instead of going through the, if you look on the left, Oman, instead of just going through the straits, they are building a $3 billion railroad through Iman. Who's they? Oman, Oman, Oman, on the left, Oman. The Oman National Railway Company are going to take over the straits business and they're going to build this railway from south to north, right parallel to the strait, all the way up into the mountains through Muscat. And they plan to have this thing done in a year and a half. And this is all part of that GCC, you know, that the Chinas are a part of, and you know, that the Russians want to be a part of. Everyone's, you know, building the big railways everywhere.

2:32:19 So they're just trying to bypass all of these waterways. So, okay, I'm looking at, let's say, there's going to be a railway that runs from Oman through Duke to UAE, up through like near Qatar and then through Bahrain, Kuwait. All the way up, yep, all the way up. So instead of going through the strait and then going to any of those ports, there'll be, and there's mountains here. Where's it going to start, at Muscat? I think so, yeah, Muscat, yeah. So you dock there, You pour all your stuff out, put it on the train, goes all the way through the mountains in the friendly territory you see. Right through Saudi Arabia. Yeah, so that's a three billion dollar... Well that's because everyone's freaked out about the straightest of who's being a choke point. Of course, and along those lines I learned that the, this was a pretty interesting

2:33:17 delays to the Panama Canal, which we've been looking at. So we have the Chinese... One of the few news outlets that looks at that. Yeah. Why would anyone look at it? It's so boring. So the Chinese are building their own canal through Nicaragua. I'm not quite sure what the status is, but trust me, the Chinese know what they're doing. So the expansion of the Panama Canal is... I'll read you the headline here. Delays to the $5.25 billion expansion of the Panama Canal will extend a surge in rates for vessels hauling liquefied petroleum gas to Asia from the US. Aha! Now we kind of know why this is in play. It's going to cost us a lot more money to ship the same amount of liquefied gas that we want to ship if we don't have this canal expansion.

2:34:19 As long as the Panama Canal remains unfit for taking VLGC's, the very large gas carriers, it's going to have a positive impact on the freight market. Assuming exports continue as normal, volumes will continue to be shipped. Rates for VLGC's will rise to $45,000 a day, up from $30,000. So this is big. It's a lot. This is a big increase. Yeah. 50%. Exactly. These are big, big, big forces at play here. Well, I mean the Keystone pipeline of course, which is going to be part of this scheme, I believe, runs through the country and goes down to those refiners that are in the Gulf Coast, which it has to go to get out of there to China. They got to go through the Panama Canal. Yeah, got to. Now, the West Coast refiners, not too many of them deal with this particular product. Yeah, but Japan really needs our gas badly because they shut down all of the nuclear.

2:35:19 Huh. Yeah, so they're gonna gouge us. That's interesting. Yeah, of course, you know, this is the banking dispute. So it's kind of hard to tell who exactly is behind the gouging. Yeah, who's gouging who and where's the money going? It's hard to tell. But we got to be careful because, you know, if they delay that long enough, the Chinese are gonna go, hello, Nicaragua. They're gonna open that up. Yeah, they're probably just because everything in China is best price. Mm-hmm. It will give us a better deal. For sure. And if they're competing with us, they'll give us a better deal. And I would be amiss if I did not mention that apparently the Federal Reserve has issued a warning for bank drills and system stress testing on the 15th and 16th of February. Interesting. Yeah. Of course, this is what we, we have a false flag warning for this type of activity. Always have to be looking out for something weird going down.

2:36:22 his memo came out. The next area within the six-week cycle is actually March 15th. So we have to kind of note that. I would just say I don't think of well this much. So this is the last thing that I really have that I wanted to share today. I'm pretty sure let me see where is it here oh yeah I'm sure when it happened when it first was reported which was months ago there was this attack on a Silicon Valley or yeah Northern California power station. Oh yeah I keep forgetting to bring that up too. What do you think of that? Well let's explain what it is first. Okay so apparently six months ago and it was caught on camera some bad actors went in with I think automatic assault rifles and they shot out

2:37:21 17 or 18 transformers at this one power station. Now here's the weird thing. The reporting concludes that the shell casings had no fingerprints, that there were rock formations consistent with, you know, a very well organized operation, and there is some video. It's very tough to see what's really going on in the video, but They did succeed in effectively blowing up that power substation and of course power was diverted. And it all worked out. What's weird is that it's only coming out now, and it's only being really discussed now. Although, we've seen this report for weeks if not months, but certainly not six months, I don't think. No, no, this is only within the last couple weeks actually. So I got this report, an interview with a guy named Jenkins who's from the Rand Corporation, and he was on Al Jazeera America.

2:38:19 And I he said so a couple of things that were very interesting I cut it down because it was very long interview because Al Jazeera has no commercials so they can just talk forever I liked what he was saying and you know ran corporation these guys you don't really often see ran corporation guys on news channels Very rarely, so I thought I figured that was interesting by itself. There of course have been no arrests We don't know what motive might have been behind this attack but a former vice president of Pacific Gas and Electric said recently that this wasn't an incident where Billy Bob and Joe decided after a few brewskis to come in and shoot up a substation. I'm very disappointed that that's not what was going on because That's my idea of a Saturday night

2:39:02 He said that this was a very well thought out attack and that they targeted specific components. What does that tell you? Well, that suggests that they had either done their homework or potentially they had inside knowledge of how the system works. You know, we look at these facilities, there's an array of transformers and power lines. To the ordinary outsider, it's mystifying. One wouldn't know which one to fire rounds at, which ones to go after. The fact that in this case it's reported that they were targeting specific components,

2:39:42 does suggest a degree of more sophisticated knowledge. Alright, and John Wellingoff, the former chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, has said that he believes it was an act of domestic terrorism and that it was likely a dress rehearsal for a bigger terror plot that could take down the US power grid and black out much of the country. Again, what... This is a... Now he's got my attention. I'm like, okay. And now the Rand guy comes out of the blue with something that I had completely forgotten, you may still remember. What do you think? I can't say that. I mean we certainly have seen in our own history in the United States attacks by terrorists on the power grid. In fact, in years past there were attacks on the same power grid that was attacked last April. Ah, John, can you recall?

2:40:36 Last April? No, no. He says in the past... I don't know. I'm sure if I'm more reminded I could. This is very interesting. What he's saying is on the exact same power grid, similar attacks, but many, many years ago. 1970s, a group calling itself the New World Liberation Front. Do you remember the New World Liberation Front? Vaguely. They are the people that targeted Nancy Pelosi. The reason why she always said she had a gun. Huh. Interesting, huh? Carried out a bombing campaign directed against the electrical power grid and caused some fairly serious blackouts in Sausalito and in San Jose. So it's certain... Were you there that time or were you not in the valley area in the 70s? I should have been. Not unprecedented.

2:41:32 But to carry out a major attack that would bring down the system nationwide, that would require hitting a number of specific points simultaneously to preclude the possibility that the authorities could reroute power. Well, I think he's setting us up there. That's how to do it. Well, here's the way I'm looking at this. Is that again this would be ideal for the March 15th six-week event hmm they bring this up now? Why? Yeah, exactly. You could have just let the sleeping dogs lie. What's the point of now bringing it up unless it's a prelude to something that the government's doing? Well he has one more zinger in here in his last 30 seconds. U.S. officials warn about attacks on electric power facilities and on the grid. The first thing that

2:42:28 most often comes to mind is a somehow sophisticated computer hackers somehow getting malware and shutting us down. Is that, you think, the bigger threat? Now listen to what he says. I don't know that it's the bigger one. Certainly we've seen more activity in the cyber area as opposed to the area of physical sabotage. And that's simply because we are now so dependent on these information systems, because there are so many people with this technical know-how which has become increasingly available. And we also see a lot of activity because it's criminally driven. That is, there are commercial opportunities here.

2:43:08 Yes! Doesn't he just say it? It's like, oh, it's criminally driven by the computer industry who are criminals and want business opportunities to sell governments a bunch of hooey. Yeah, it was something we should get in on. Well, I'm thinking for one thing the question was weird it was planted because if somebody's going out of their way to shoot up a place and then they're targeting certain components, it's got nothing to do with cyber. No. At all. No. There's no connection. But he even said it. He said, well, I'm not so convinced. I'm pretty sure. Of course. Yeah. And that would actually be really good because the defense contractors and you know everyone's all in on cyber. Perfect.

2:44:01 To have an old school attack saying, oh people we need more military crap there. We need you know, personnel and tanks and... Well they're gonna do something with these kids from Afghanistan when they bring them back. They can put them around these places. Yeah, I'm not feeling too good about this. Now I got a clip that'll make you roll your eyes. No, this has got to be the last one. I'm cutting you off. This is just too funny. So this is... Don't make it Thom Hartmann. I'm gonna make it Thom Hartmann. It's the rad cast. I'm gonna set it up. This is what he's added this not to his RT report but to his regular daily radio show. He has added this ludicrous segment of his show and just tell me what you think when you're done hearing it. I'm Marley Smudels.

2:44:49 According to Radcast.org, we're seeing the higher levels of radiation leaving the states for the most part. but we should be seeing the rise of fallout once again in a few more days Lakewood, Colorado is reporting 66 counts per minute with spikes to 90 and Charleston, West Virginia is averaging 43 with highs of 65 counts per minute Colorado Springs, Colorado is sitting at 65 counts per minute with spikes of 94 and Oxford, Michigan is hovering at 29 with highs of 71 counts per minute Frederick, Wisconsin is reporting 46 counts per minute with spikes to 80 and Spearfish, South Dakota is sitting at 50 with highs of 83 counts per minute. Salisbury, Massachusetts is hovering at 81 counts per minute with spikes all the way up to 122. And Ithaca, New York is averaging 41 with highs of 65 counts per minute. Radcast.org's alert level is 100 counts per minute. However, they remind us that there is no such thing as a safe level of radiation. Okay, I got it. Very smart of you. And I caught it. First of all, Radcast

2:45:53 So these are the radiation levels of Fukushima, I'm sure. We're all dying from Fukushima. And he brings out spearfish. Yeah. Which is landlocked. Thank you. Thank you. I was listening. One of our donors is from spearfish. He must be dying from the rad count. Now, the funny thing is when they hit Massachusetts, they had the numbers all go up, which makes no sense because the distance from one place to another. Hold on one second. Stop. Just stop. This was so ridiculous. Yeah, no, I agree. That I'm gonna give this to you. I'm giving it to you. Late but not forgotten or whatever. That is so ridiculous. He is reading like it's... Like it's the weather. Yeah, like the fishery report. Or the sunset sunrise. What a dick! He's an idiot. Now, but the thing I want to point out is that even with this bullcrap which just can't last. No.

2:46:52 It would seem logical that if there's radiation coming from Fukushima, which there's not, it would be higher on the West Coast than the East Coast, but all the East Coast numbers are really high. Never explained, of course, that, especially Massachusetts. just laden with radioactive radon. To the point where if you live in Massachusetts you usually get a radon detector. We had it in New Jersey we had to have a radon detector. Yeah because the earth and the East Coast ground is oozing radon. Yeah you cannot buy a house without a radon survey. Right and then many times you have to put like this

2:47:31 Like either covering, you gotta do different things to keep, because the radon is the gas and it comes into the house and everyone's breathing it. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's horrible. And you grow an extra eye. It's really crazy. Yeah. Anyway, I just thought that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Was that it? Oh, yeah, okay. Seriously. No, that's good. Thank you very much. That was very depressing. Oh boy. Okay. Yeah, we didn't get to any turkey stuff or Central African Republic. We're bad. Yeah, well I'm going to talk a little bit about them and the newsletter and because my thinking now is the poppies are going to be moved there. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, they got to because we're leaving Afghanistan, we got to put the poppy someplace else. Well for sure and I have a report for Thursday. For sure, we are ramping up big time and Djibouti of course is the main base.

2:48:26 That's it's... I saw a video of Djibouti, they got Subway, they got Burger King, it's just like Basra. It's unbelievable. The Djibouti base is... So we're launching everything from Djibouti. Makes sense. Yeah, and so it makes sense we need to start, yeah well, let's, we should check out the earth, the climate, the poppy growing climate there. I did, I've got all the maps. Oh good, okay, fantastic. That will be coming your way Thursday. Remember to support us, Dvorak.org slash NA here in FEMA Region 6 in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, my name's Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's raining, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we'll be back on Thursday right here on your NOAAgenda.

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