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00:00 They take it as truth. They take it as truth? They take it as truth! Destroyed, destroyed computers. Destroyed computers?! recommendations of the President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technology so you don't have to hear at FEMA Region 6 in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it is sunny, it's cold and everything is going great for the locals. I am John C. Dvorak.

00:40 It's always lame. We're happy everything is going great for the locals it's going great for the local Wow Yes, everyone there is rich Living it up Silicon Valley. I'm traffic does is reflecting that apparently it's just horrible. I'm lucky to be here I'm lucky to be alive I'm so sick. This is not you're still sick wait a minute you were sick on the last show I didn't tell I only told you after the show that I was sick I didn't even tell you during the show cuz no because you sound fine, and you sound fine now. I think you're faking it yeah Here's what happened one week ago after the show on Thursday? I went to a fundraising event for ham the health of my ham

01:29 It's H-A-M, Ham. Hom. The Health Alliance for Austin Musicians which gives healthcare to thousands of Austin musicians who are poor and on the street even those who aren't on the street can afford it And I got sick! Someone gave me something some horrible bug and it really... Who did you kiss? No, I'm just handshaking. Kissing is not where you... No handshake is worse than a hand shake And so it was really really bad and yeah It was in my head sinuses and then we did the show on Sunday And I kind of collapsed after the show I've been in bed and it's really weird like my back hurt My lungs are congested and then this report comes in yesterday from Houston You'll see only on 11 news

02:20 Police officials here with the health department are on a mission to find out more about this mystery flu-like illness. They don't want to scare the public but there is no question this is serious and it's raising both questions and concerns so far there are eight confirmed victims and four of those patients have died. They range in age from 41 to 68. Now here is the thing baffling doctors, all of these patients have had flu-like and or pneumonia like symptoms and all have tested negative for the flu sources are telling us tonight that two other surviving patients are being treated at Conroe Regional Medical Center and are very sick. We are being told that doctors at this hospital and others in Montgomery County are being advised to use extra precaution to prevent this from spreading, sources say. This illness also appears to be causing kidney failure. At this point we do not know if any of these patients had pre-existing conditions the Montgomery County Health Department is waiting on more conclusive test results hoping you get a better handle on exactly what they're dealing with. There ya go!

03:22 Half of the people who have apparently what I have are dead. Flu-like symptoms between ages... But no flu? Yeah, between ages of 41 and 68 kidney failure. I could keel over at any moment! Right during the show?! This would not be a good thing for the future this show No it wouldn't but have no fear i have a condom over my mic so I can infect anyone on the show today everything should be okay But I need to get better. I got the kids coming tomorrow night, Christina's coming... Oh yeah it's gonna be nut house here! It's gonna be crazy! What's the kids? What kids are you talking about? My kid Christina and her girlfriend they're coming from Rotterdam They're coming for two weeks. What happened that kid Dixon?! What?? Didn't she have a boyfriend named Dixon or something like that Dylan? Dexter

04:11 Dexter! What ever happened to Dexter? Dexter is doing great actually. They're still very good friends and they talk a lot, and Dexter went from... because it's very hard to find the job in England in the UK Very hard to find work so he for awhile was Domino's Pizza delivery but of course like all good Domino's pizza delivery he essentially delivered weed along with the pizza He did that for a while, then he thought to step it up a bit and he started growing weed in like his dad's apartment in London. Dexter is very entrepreneurial young man Did he get busted? I think his dad busted him but then he was like oh I can't believe someone was growing weed in your apartment Dad! That's nuts

05:04 I guess you finally fessed up and just Dexter's funny. Yeah, we'd like Dexter well There you go, but anyway that this is a weird I have my have a body buzz You know my whole bodies kind of buzzing so I don't know maybe I have a body buzz yeah Yeah So my body's buzzing eat me buzz what do you like your? Fingertips and your arms it just buzzed a little bit huh is this really never heard of a body buzz no I'm sorry. Well anyway, but i'm here and I spend all day in bed sound fine So you don't have pneumonia? Well pneumonia is the lung thing isn't it yeah Yeah well I had a severe pain in my shoulders and my lungs and I have i'm coughing and it's congested

05:53 You sound fine! This can't be. Okay, alright... Which is bad by the way this is the old you sound fine then you're dead Yeah could we just say I sound crappy that make me feel much better It might be a better idea jeez Anyway so they don't know what this is? Is it some crazy thing going around No they have no idea Only in Texas Well Houston's where the report came from Oh well your in Austin So yeah were far enough away sure Were there any Houstonian musicians You know, it was a bunch of rich douchebags and the whole idea is to kind of extract money from them. I didn't like how that went down. The whole thing was not fun for me. I gotta talk to these people or I'm not gonna participate if its like that We don't need to go into it but you know...I try to spend some time on some charity and we try to do something

06:48 and uh yeah well now it's gonna kill you no hey can you just give me a read for a second because there's i got to hum on you that is crazy I want to see if I can get rid of it oh I don't know it could be any home uh let me could be from anything because I'm over on the other side of the place it could be the machine humming and it could be I don't know. Here's the kind of for people out there listening to the show We got a few let me give you a little clip tease all right we got coming up anti-american mid Pacific on Russia today All right, no one cares and we're back We're fine. I think it's on your end. I know what's going on doesn't know I'm sure something It's not all that bad Agnes buzzing to me the whole room is buzzing alright So what maybe is you maybe your body buzz could be the body buzz

07:32 Alright, so where do you want to start? Because I already teased what i've been doing. What I spent yesterday struggling really plowing through 308 pages of the report and recommendations of the President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technologies Which is kind of... Well we can start with that. I have a couple of little ideas I'm reading myself And I have a couple things to go into but yours is probably more like what? What did you read Oscar Wilde No, I read the indictment or the court case that said that the NSA was violating the Constitution. Ah good let's start there and let me just to get everyone all clued in hold on a second...I have this

08:20 Clip to set us up, and then I want to hear cuz I did your clip to set it up. I won't play my clip to set it up because Mike I thought I went to a Dead end all right well I'm glad you read that complaint because i haven't. Here's my setup A federal judge in Washington ruled today that the government's collection of phone records of millions of Americans is likely unconstitutional It is the first time a federal court has ruled against The once secret surveillance program which was exposed by national security agency leaker Edward Snowden

08:56 In a blistering attack, Judge Richard Leon said he has little doubt that the author of our Constitution James Madison would be aghast at what Judge Leon said amounts to an unreasonable search. Okay! That's my setup. What is yours? Well, mine is Glenn...Gwen. Gwen Ifill who was an apologist you know Obama bot extraordinaire since she wrote a book on him Yes And so I heard this clip and then I went to listen to it He had a similar clip the one you played from France VanCat where the guy goes he quotes from them from The Complaint which actually discusses

09:33 The guy does say it's Orwellian. Yes, that is in the complaint right? It is in the complaint so the French guys... But Eiffel soft-pedaled the whole thing so much that I thought she was kind of wrong but then I went and looked at this thing and this word got me to read it She was actually right and probably more objective but let us play her little thing A federal judge ruled today that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records is likely unconstitutional Judge Richard Leon said a massive roundup of calls was an unreasonable search and violated Americans reasonable expectation of privacy. But he put his decision on hold pending a likely government appeal we'll have more on today's ruling right after the news summary.

10:14 I thought that her use of the word likely unconstitutional was kind of a soft peddling. That was the same they did in, uh... in the CBS thing also he also used the likely word The judge used it. He essentially said that so that was not misreporting as I was suspecting it was. He essentially what he did was he said this is horrible there obviously says this he never said it was a fact but he says its obvious they have a great case here, they're gonna...and it's a Fourth Amendment violation of Fifth Amendment violation and a First Amendment violation which nobody brought up in the news. But the most most newsworthy or most interesting thing for the no agenda thinking is this little tidbit that everybody seemed to overlook. Nobody wanted to bring it up and I'll read it right from the page. Now before you do that who has filed this lawsuit?

11:09 Larry Klayman founder of Freedom Watch. Okay, so this is a guy who sues a lot public interest organization Yeah He's in he does just to get yeah to get attention the Supreme Court right okay? He does the same thing as the ACLU that does only he beat him to it In fact people have talked about him beating the ACLU to the punch on this right okay Which makes you wonder but anyway, but here's the thing about it It's not just climbing or claiming It says, there's attorney Larry Klayman founder of Freedom Watch a public interest sources and Charles Strange. Now this is the interesting part. Charles Strange is the father of Michael Strange a cryptologist technician for the NSA

11:49 support personnel for Navy SEAL Team 6 who was killed in Afghanistan when his helicopter was shot down in 2011. Oh that's interesting! Don't you think that is kind of newsworthy? That would be clip of the day if it was a clip I don't have a clip no, I know but that's wow that's a great find and he's a co- Charles Strange is the What, complainant or? Plaintiff. He's the cold plaintiff and they just mentioned it here. We're a bunch of lawyers aren't we? We're not lawyers! We're not pretending to be lawyers. We speak law. And besides that we got it right

12:30 So anyway, so that was kind of interesting and they it says they were shot down in 2011. They assert which is strange and claimant and how they got about got this to happen They assert that their subscribers Verizon Wireless And they bring suit against the NSA Department of Justice several executives President Obama Holder Keith Alexander and the district judge Robert Vinnison as well as Verizon, and his CEO. Good! So this is going to be a really nice case but the judge himself stayed... he filed the injunction Yeah but he said I'm gonna leave it open because there's gonna be an appeal anyway

13:07 He says he's gonna stay it because otherwise there is just going to be a lot more paperwork. Right, right... So he gives the government like six months Do you think this guy is trying to make a name for himself? This judge or...? No no the way you read thing this thing this is very good case The judges try...the judges just He just looked at it and said, yeah this is legit. It's very well done So there are a couple of things... This is very interesting I didn't know about the father of the dead Navy SEAL And why would he specifically be filing? Just for the exact same reason It's the same complaint right Yeah Well if I was thinking about that too when I read this Here's what they're after and this is why its going to be a fun case to watch They're going for discovery

13:49 Yeah, just so we could find out. The old man thinks something's fishy about that bullcrap that when it came out in 2011 we talked about extensively on the show how half the team was wiped out in this crazy helicopter crash out of the blue what were they doing together? No no! It wasn't a crash they were shot down. They were brought down by a stinger or an al-Qaeda something. Or ours... Well yeah well of course it had USA on it Al Qaeda don't make no stingers So I think strange is after that's good now. It's interesting because And it's a I didn't pull any clips from it this guy who's the other plaintiff from Freedom okay, he was on CNN last night and Don Lemon kicked him off actually kicked him off the told his producer shut his mic and it's marginally funny but

14:49 It shows just how already mainstream is going to try and shut this case down, and how not a single word is uttered about this father. I think that's ... That is a great find. It turns out however if you listen to Dianne Feinstein here that there was another case just the month ago where exactly the opposite took place or then an opposite ruling, and she really wants us to go to the Supreme Court Well, this was not the first time. Last month there was a hearing of a case. The case of someone providing financial and other support to Al-Shabaab. It took place in the Southern District of California. The judge was Jeffrey Miller. He found that the 215 program was constitutional and the point of issue was specifically that

15:46 So you have one case a month ago which has not been reported on that I've seen and you have the case of a few days ago, which has been reported on extensively. Now what does this all mean? This means that clearly it's going to go up on appeal and go to the Supreme Court And I very much would urge the court to take the case Okay so this i think is a setup John Whichever case you look at The spider in the middle of the web, Dianne Feinstein wants it to go to the Supreme Court so it's a setup. Not necessarily. To be accepted you're saying that this judge who wrote this very nice piece is corrupt or... No well I think what I...the way its been reported

16:43 He stayed his judgment because it would be too much paperwork, cause it's gonna be appeal anyway. So he knows the whole point is we need to take it one step higher which I guess would ultimately be the Supreme Court. Well yeah, I think he's assuming that. Right and it seems like Diane Feinstein is happy. What are you implying though? Is this set up so the Supreme Court can say no, it's fine we can hell with the Fourth Amendment when you got Scalia in there I don't think that's going to happen Yeah, you know what this is what I've learned and let me lead-in with this clip Today an investigative panel raised some serious concerns and recommended some dramatic changes at the NSA

17:21 The 46 recommendations spelled out in the 300-page report are surprising and sweeping. The panel, chosen by President Obama is urging that the NSA stop collecting and mining phone calls from Americans. The advisors say that surveillance program creates potential risks to public trust personal privacy and civil liberty they also urge that spying on foreign citizens including world leaders must be carried out via duly enacted law or executive order and must be excessively directed at protecting national security interests. Okay, so that's the lead-in to this 308 page report which I plowed through... Oh you read this thing? Before you go there... On my desk there. It is interesting that do have the list of people who produced this report? There are a bunch of right now stooges! Hello, hello, this is how it starts off

18:18 Of course I have that. Okay, I wanted you to read those names because it includes of all people that guy Richard Clark Well no no back up back up back up hold on we'll scroll to that okay? Richard Clark You want to explain who Richard Clarke is Dick Clark yeah dick clark Who's been we've seen him since we began this show This character has been on and off the news he's He's essentially he's an ex-CIA guy who which he's began his career in media by bitching about the fact that you knew all about the uh... that that will some of them lot was a bad guy and he was party with him in their bearded guy that other character went on and on about how they'd nobody listen to them when they said this is going to happen and then he went from one thing to another enrich your car finally ended up seeing there there was a bonanza

19:11 cybercrime, anything. Right okay that's just one of the names the next name is Michael J Morel where we heard that name come on he's another ex-agency guy isn't he? He's the guy who was on his way out he's the right he's the assistant deputy director of the CIA 33 years he's on his way out gonna write a great book He did his first interview ever recently, you'll recall that. Then we have Jeffrey R Stone is the next on the list This is the cover... I think he wrote most of this. This is The Lawyer Of course from Chicago, Chicago law school gotta have your Chicago shield in there A very famous and very well respected lawyer if you look at

20:06 book of knowledge entry you can see all the things that he has done, but I thought you know the Chicago connection makes a lot of sense and of course. He's in a number on the boards of a number of interesting organizations And he writes being the operative word yeah then we have Cass Sunstein Now Cass Sunstein is of course the husband of our current ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Power. Powers? Power. Cass Sunstein authored the paper where he said that the authorities, the federal authorities need to infiltrate groups of people talking crazy like us

20:53 That's another reason we're never gonna get infiltrated. We don't have guests! So Cass Sunstein is a known operative when it comes to disinformation and he writes about it this is what he wants, what he does. Then Peter Swire is the other guy who to round out this list... He is professor of business, I believe. But most importantly he's a big wig over there at the... He is a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress so he is a super left-wing Obama bot who got thrown in there These guys were handpicked and this is almost like the 9-11 Commission

21:40 It's really, it's not the people you want to have some kind of independent analysis. Somebody on Democracy Now! they have a clip but it is not important mentioned that the entire operation was officed and worked under Clapper. He was the manager of the whole thing. Makes total sense And I have marked up this entire document. We're not going to do all of that, but I encourage you to go to 575.nashownotes.com and take a look at it and I've highlighted relevant passages...and I think I kind of know where they're going with this and the way the media is reporting on this is this panel—and no one ever says who's on it! I find that interesting

22:31 As far as I know, we're the only media outlet that has said hey it's the CIA guy. It's Cass Sunstein. It's Richard Clark and are you kidding me? No they all say handpicked by The White House even Glenn Greenwald hasn't mentioned the names which leads me to believe they're just parroting what they hear no one actually ever looks at this stuff. And by the way...I almost did die plowing through this really there is a lot of legalese But it's a very interesting history of how the FISA and the Foreign Intelligence Service Court came to be. It is well worth reading just to understand because it really goes back to the 1970s, to The Church Committee where that's where the FISA court was created and there's a lot of that history in here and I cross-reference everything even put some links into The Book of Knowledge

23:26 And there's a couple things that, you know they start off by saying well traditional distinctions between foreign and domestic are very unclear today. You know so there is a lot of this fuzzy wuzzy stuff and essentially this document is saying the same thing three times over which I think is what most good documents do Is you say it short, you say it little bit longer and then you say really really long with all your sources and all your important stuff in there And as with everything, every recommendation they make... ...everything they say should change which the media is running with as well this panel says. The NSA should no longer store the data! The metadata and in the document itself which is buried down on whoo this has got to be page like more like 79 I'm gonna see if I can scroll to it real fast

24:23 Second third party the NSA itself is happy with the Recommend a it says that in the document. It's happy with the recommendation of not having to store all this data themselves because a it's very costly and it's really complicated be they can't get it from everybody and so they would much more prefer that they had real-time ends in this document real time interfaces to all providers' data so that they can do this on the fly when they have the appropriate approval, which will be just as simple as ever. Yeah! They want to use a distributed database in everybody else's storage capability Yes and it says in the document The NSA is happy with this recommendation They wanted to do it anyway

25:10 It literally says that in the document. So for the media to say, oh this is... Oh they hit them on the shoulder and wrapped their knuckles didn't they? Bullshit! They give me exactly what they want. Exactly what they want. And here's the thing where the legalese that is coming into play and why I think this has been to the Supreme Court multiple times, The Fourth Amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that wiretapping is not unconstitutional against the Fourth Amendment. This is what, this has already been hashed out many many times and they just... we're like the boiling frogs you know this is just another one more we got to go through one more step then we really got all these stupid human resources and the approach is very interesting chapter 1 principles in this document

26:02 The United States government must protect at once two different forms of security, national security and personal privacy. Now here's the trickiness John and you're going to love what they're doing here in the American I'm reading from this document in the American tradition the word security has had multiple meanings aha were you aware of this John? I am now. In contemporary parlance, it often refers to national security or homeland security Thus understood it signals the immense importance of counteracting threats that come from those who seek to do the nation and its citizens harm One of the government's most fundamental responsibilities is to protect this form of security broadly understood Now... And then they go into a whole thing about September 11th At the same time

26:53 The idea of security refers to a quite different and equally fundamental value, captured in the Fourth Amendment to United States Constitution. The right of the people to be secure in their persons houses papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated This form of security is a central component of the right to privacy, which Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis famously described as the right to be let alone. The most comprehensive rights and the most valued by civilized men." And then they go into set to literally look at the etymology of the word security

27:35 It might seem puzzling or a coincidence of language that the word security embodies such different values, but the etymology of the word solves the puzzle. Ahaha! There is no coincidence here in Latin The word Securus offers the core meanings which include free from care quiet easy and also tranquil free from danger and safe People who are at physical risk because of a threat of external violence are by definition in danger. They're not safe! So too, people made insecure by their own government in their persons houses papers and effects can hardly be free from care or tranquil And indeed the first sentence of the Constitution juxtaposes the two values explicitly using the word secure

28:22 Meaning, and now they're saying secure means liberty and prosperity and the right to the pursuit of happiness. So they're trying to twist the word secure into something that government has to protect you from and against yourself so that you can have security i.e., liberty and they're saying that the secure, the meaning of secure kind of also means you have to have liberty so we have to protect that by looking at your shit. Does that make any sense? Well I can see what it's trying to make sense but it doesn't in fact makes sense and to go back to the etymology well-known terms

29:07 It's like pretty it's pretty specious. I'd say is its like a gimmick totally specious It's a total gimmick and so they're trying to find anything they can To rationalize what they're up to well, and I was watching just as a side clip here Which is part of this? How was that you saw Chris Matthews have had Obama on. And the weird thing was Matthews had, and it was a sit down someplace other than the studio... This is that tour that he did remember? Remember I told you that he was doing a tour and then the president showed up on his tour? Right right exactly what it was yeah and so Matthews's like his mouth was kind of agape the whole time that Obama said this Well no I think he was actually stunned

29:53 Because he had that look of the, there's a cartoon look that The Simpsons use where the mouth is kind of open and you're like in shock. But because you can't say anything because your like the number one Obama bot currently in the MSNBC place but listen to this nonsense from Obama I've said before and will say again, the NSA actually does a very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not reading people's emails and listening to the content of their phone calls outside of our borders.

30:32 The NSA is more aggressive. It's not constrained by laws, and part of what we're trying to do over the next month or so is having done an independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks civil libertarians lawyers and others to examine what's being done I'll be proposing some self-restraint on the NSA and to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence. So his panel of outside people is that? Yeah, Sunstein is the libertarian! How does Obama as the president... how do you or anybody impose

31:12 self-restraint on somebody on the basis of someone else. Adam, I want you to restrain yourself! I'm going to impose my will and make it... You have to restrain yourself." It's not possible! This is bullcrap! The way it's described in this document is through and of course this is where it gets interesting through the executive orders. An executive order should be uh... should make you...should constrain you to do certain things But if you look what's happened, they're reaching back to 2010-2011 executive orders that just show the setup to this. If you didn't know better and maybe we don't know better it feels like the whole thing is a set up just to solidify the way that they've always wanted it to start with which

32:00 You know, which is really to have full access just state. Yeah well yes and have the distributed database and good to go yeah that makes it a little cheaper better things do that money the interesting thing really is though to go back and see the history now really this started in 1928 this is when the Supreme Court first started looking at the emerging technologies of telephony And this is when wiretapping was deemed not a search within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment. Then in 1978, 76 I think we had the Church Committee

32:40 And again, it went to the Supreme Court and it came... you know, it keeps coming back. We're not... we the people are not going to win this one all that is really happening here is the systems are being set up so the minute it involves national security, imminent death or something, you know that's kind of their main things. Then all bets are off we can go immediately and there will be a change to national security letters or that is the proposed recommendation of which by the way 60 are written every single day The FBI writes 16 national security... they did in 2012 according this document over 30 000 national security letters

33:23 That's a lot of people that need to shut up. I think this is terrible, something has got to be done about those national security matters Well there is a recommendation in here that they would have yet another secret judge who would take a look at that and it shouldn't just be the FBI which I of course agree with But I don't see... He's using it as a, you know this is when i was doing like in the 90s when I was doing this radio show Real Computing we had an FBI guy on and this was when they were trying to push through uh It wasn't a clipper chip. It wasn't a clipper. It was some other thing. It was something that spies on your TV viewing or something with some ridiculous technology And my made the assertion and the guy really couldn't disagree with me but The FBI would love

34:11 for their job to just be so easy that all they have to do is just tap everyone's phone, listen in and figure out who the bad guys are and go arrest them as opposed to actually doing police work. Because if you're in law enforcement, you have a choice between just spying on everybody like the Stasi in East Germany. Just kick and bag drink some coffee. Yeah drinks to have donuts wait for the light to pop on and then yeah then you go bust again throw them in jail or throw the keys away and then you would wait for the next light that come on You don't have to do any work. You only even have to be trained And this is ideally what they want

34:48 Yes, and because when they have to do police work They suck at it apparently and they don't want to improve their capabilities. And let me remind everybody in the Time magazine cover interview of Mark Zuckerberg I think this is again The only program that has ever really discussed this in in the in this cover article There's Robert Mueller then director of the FBI pops his head around the corner while Zuckermurder being interviewed says hey I was in the building just you know wanted to say hi Because that's how they like it. And there is language in this document specifically saying that if people, and it's very caged so what this document I think does besides the make-it easy for the NSA to tap into everybody... If this would become a recommendation or a law or anything again this is just a document but you know how these things go nothing is by chance with the Obama administration

35:41 So it's setting up the NSA for much easier work, which they like as we've already identified. It's also setting up the conversation for well if you're giving all your information to other third parties anyway and you're not worried about what they are doing with it necessarily then why should be a problem for that to be searched? That will be the next conversation and then ultimately Let me see if I can find... Well you know they've already come up with some stories that have shown up on the media where the NSA has turned over data to IRS, to bus people and it's turned over data on protest groups. Apparently what was the thing in New York?

36:29 the protest group that took place. Occupy was busted by... so they're already doing this and I think they sneak these things out every once in a while to see if anybody squawks about it, but listen immediately doesn't say crap about this! In a series of decisions in the 1970's the Supreme Court held that individuals have quote no reasonable expectation of privacy in information they voluntarily share with third parties such as banks and telephone companies. Explain that quote, what a person knowingly exposes to third parties is quote not a subject of fourth amendment protection And then in Miller versus United States, the court applied this reasoning to bank records in Smith versus Maryland. It extended it to an individual's telephone calling records." This is history! They're just giving us fact they're throwing it in your face and you have no privacy slave shut up this has been decided so we can go back again but I don't see... The only time a change was recently in 2012 with the GPS device being attached to the guy's car

37:31 You recall that, right? That was seen as a breach of someone's privacy under the Fourth Amendment. That was actually Sonia Sotomayor — Justice Sotomayor — she wrote that in her opinion but otherwise you have no right to privacy with any information you give to a third party now the problem is of course that we can't do without a lot of third parties like well you know it's making it and the system is making it worse yes thank you Ted Kaczynski rules once again. It always comes back to the Unabomber I can't help myself! And gentlemen of the jury, you have to realize that Mr. Curry is a huge protege of Ted Kaczynski That's right Well I don't know if you...well you probably did hear

38:20 Here's the news, it happened or came out this morning. Here we go talking about centralization. Well sir I certainly know what consumers want to hear with the holiday shopping season now in high gear as you said the security breach involves stolen credit card and debit information and according to the Secret Service it could impact millions of people who shop at Target at stores all all across the country and tonight at this Target store at 7th & Fig shoppers we talked to are thinking twice now about using their credit after hearing what investigators say appears to have happened here a breach they say that may go back as far as Black Friday. Now somehow investigators believe cyber criminals hacked into the point of sale systems at Targets retail This by the way is very interesting report from KTLA and I want to play the rest of it because they have two men on the street interviews

39:09 And it literally is a no agenda guy and then all the rest. And it's those two people. This is about a supposedly 40 million credit card slash debit card numbers stolen from point-of-sale systems at Target, which of course is the problem with your forced centralization of money which is not always necessary there are ways around this. We know that's where you swipe your card give your personal information including your pin number now how they did it isn't clear yet The big concern of course is that these criminals may be using the information to create fake cards or use a person's pin number to get into their ATM and take out money. This has happened at other retailers in the past, and at least one consumer... I should have cut this down, I apologize. ...consumer told us that's why he only shops with cash. Yay! I just deal with cash now

40:02 That's the safest way to go about shopping for me anyways. Okay, that's our no agenda guy Are you ready? You're ready for the rest? That's kind of scary because you know that's like your life They could like steal your information and take-take-that's like they have their taking your life They can take your identity they take your life cuz out here Your identity is everything your identity was what matters because that's who you are That's right keep your identity safe Keep your ID cards, don't become an invalid in society. Yeah cash people we got to get back to cash this is crazy I shopped at Target the one time i go they steal the numbers We bought a Christmas lights for the house that decorated for the kids went to target The one time I go

40:51 Okay, anyway the recommendations are very... The only one that the media is able to pull out that makes any sense. That makes it sound like this panel this blue ribbon panel did anything is the one where they say oh well you know it should be a third party It should either be the carriers themselves or third party and I was looking at the the big circle jerk fest of the Silicon Valley douchebags in The White House the other day. Oh, can you play a clip? I have that because this was what seemed to me to be it would yeah I don't know if you saw any of the videos no I did I want To finish the thought and then okay there's but okay go on but there's I don't want to lose my train of thought on this well Then write it down make a mark put it Tie your shoelace okay

41:40 The... it dawned on me that looking at the list, and of course I saw the video and actually have 35 seconds of audio that i wanted to play from it. Uh, The People Missing You know, there was no Cisco wasn't there. The people that really matter who are really part of the backbone of the internet... These guys weren't there! It was Marissa Meyer who was strategically placed you know she looked all pretty Eric Schmidt is right across from the president and then we have the Netflix guy? And we have the Salesforce? Really?! No this was a pitch as to who can store all this data as far as I'm concerned

42:20 This was not anything else other than, hey let's go hang out at the White House. And these guys are dicks! Let me play my little 35 seconds here and I'll tell you what's happening so you can follow along it's kind of hard to hear this is the pool uh he's allowed to in the pool video is allowed to be shot and the president is making some joke about house of cards and then the Netflix guy goes... This is MY clip Well then I'm setting it up we have the same clip No no play it and the Netflix guy goes, huh? You want a cameo. And then Eric Schmidt is laughing like a moron. This is true. Like he's about to jump over and suck the president off it so scary. We brought the advance copies of House of Cards. Cameo. You're willing to do a little cameo? He will do a little cameo!

43:17 Yeah I wish things were that ruthlessly efficient. It's like Kevin Spacey, this guy is getting a lot of stuff done. Eric Schmidt is a weenie boy! He's a little suck up little weenie pussy boy did you see him? It was pathetic. Oh, and these are the people you trust anything with? Immediately! Shun Google! Opt out of- I'm canceling my Netflix for this just for that one guy So they had it set up so Biden was sitting next to Marissa Meyer Yeah, touch her! Which is just a horned dog sittin' next to the only blonde kind of cute blonde yeah And then on the other side By the way by the way by the way Cheryl Sandberg Hold on hold on Marissa looked hot

44:18 She looks hot, but she needs... She's photogenic. That's it! Yes, but she needs a little posture training because now it looks like she was put there like oh here is the chick that was she needs to figure out how to sit you know but she looked hot yeah photogenic all right Photogenic Yeah Very photogenic and once she realized that uh-huh You know she had me yeah then Cheryl Sandberg who's anything but photogenic? Yeah Was over on the other side of the other girl of Obama and there was somebody between Obama and her I can't remember who some other guy. And then Jarrett's in there, all the dicks are in there! Yeah it was just a they were just yucking it up they didn't have anybody... They were supposed to go there to tell us you know stop the NSA from doing this now they weren't that was just now let's go have is a drinking club and they we're there to pitch. And I'm telling you they were there so maybe Salesforce or someone wanted to pitch to store all the data

45:12 Because it can't the recommendation specifically is a third party, but let me tell you when These people they have they just want to suck up to the power That's all that they're doing there every single one of them. It was so pathetic Please the video is linked in the show notes 575 dot na shown us calm look at that video it is so you can tell you You can see by the body and particularly Eric Schmidt was Mind-boggling this is one of the richest most powerful technology people in the world, and he's completely molten goo but the fact that he's sitting across from the president I

45:52 And you know these people, hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho the conversation that will be, this is the only thing that we'll keep talking about even though this document itself says you really can't look at this being a balance between security and privacy because it's the same thing as you know. The word secure is what it's all about but uh... this is pretty much what

46:28 what the media is going to tell you. We're talking about security versus liberty ultimately you don't hear John Boehner your former boss complaining about these NSA programs he's actually very strong supporter of them right and the same with a lot of Republicans yes we have the Rand Pauls of the world and yet you have commentators talking about it, you know jerks like me covering it but but the bottom line I think the American people honestly Want security over freedom. I really do what it comes to these little things yeah, Oh Jake Tappan in he knows clip of the day Really you sure now because I may have more no no you can't beat that one It followed with douchebag It wanted to read on believable that anybody

47:18 In that sort of situation would say something like that for one thing is presumptuous. I mean it's condescending, its beneath contempt the guys a creep for saying that That's what he does Alright... I didn't know was that bad Now, I've discovered something in looking... The public they'd rather be slaves under a strong government that protects them because they're scared little bunnies. Can't use that slave word! And they don't want freedom they want to be safe in their little cages You can't use the S-word Do you know what slave means to people in America? Alright now here's what's interesting this is all about the NSA one of our main thesis

48:05 theorems, theoreticums is that there is an ongoing battle between agencies in particular the CIA and the NSA. The Church Committee that was predominantly against the CIA now this is interesting because this could be a tit-for-tat ongoing battle that spans decades In fact, Frank Church who led the church committee and he was a senator from Idaho I believe on Meet The Press said had the following quote. And of course there's no audio. In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air

48:58 Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know at the same time that capability Such is the capability to monitor everything. Telephone conversations, telegrams it doesn't matter there would be no place to hide if this government ever became a tyrant if a dictator ever took charge in this country the technological capacity the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance of the government

49:38 no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology I don't want to see this country ever go across that bridge but I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss This is the abyss from which there is no return. He was talking about, without mentioning it, the NSA after he fought the CIA in the church committee My feeling John Is that this is just The pendulum coming back at the NSA Because the CIA got such a beating This was about Of course the Pentagon Papers ultimately came from this Church Committee period This was about Watergate

50:33 But it was all CIA and the NSA was quietly building up. And here's Frank Church warning for exactly what we're seeing now, exactly what we're seeing! Then the media... this is the thing that no one really... they knew it but they didn't really see it like that Jake Tapper asshole The media is so in and I pulled a number of clips I felt my duty to pull clips from the CBS 60 Minutes NSA piece which started with the most hilarious thing I've ever heard. This by the way is something that in general

51:15 We need to watch out for in journalism and we'll discuss after we hear it. Unprecedented access to NSA headquarters where were able to speak to employees who have never spoken publicly before Full disclosure, I once worked in the office of the director of national intelligence Where I saw first hand how secretly the NSA operates It's often said... Alright This full disclosure thing? I see this a lot in reporting And it's like Kara Swisher would say, oh full disclosure I'm married to a woman who is an executive at Google. Therefore now that I fully disclose this you can believe everything I say! Have you noticed this trend John? This is funny you say this because there's a clip I didn't pull but I'll reprise it

52:01 They ran this on Democracy Now. I do have two clips from this interview that was done about the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos and the connection to the CIA where they're accusing... That's the next piece yeah well i can't wait for that. Okay when you go to that and they were talking to a professor of journalism up in Ithaca and I do have a clip from him but I don't have this part where he says He says exactly that he says, but he doesn't say it in the skeptical way. You're saying it He says well you know a lot of this wouldn't be a problem if they were just to fully disclose every time we do an article on the CIA that Jeff Bezos is associated with The CIA because of their 600 million dollar contract who do the server farm for the CIA? Well and I was so out of the blue. I'm thinking I was thinking to myself you know

52:46 exactly what you're thinking, what good does it do? I mean it's not...I think you have to mention it occasionally but I think for the most part in today's world people can kind of put two and two together or maybe shouldn't be doing a story on Google. No thank you! It's becoming a meme If you as long as you say full disclosure people like oh he disclosed it It doesn't mean that all of a sudden the reporting is gonna be non-biased. I got a great email from one of our producers I'd already clipped this and he said Oh Adam just so, you know this John Miller uh... who'd who was chosen to do the sixty minute piece in the nsa and by the way john miller's as far as i can tell is never done anything for sixteen hours that this whole why didn't they send in one of their regular guys at the time have the answer

53:32 As part of the deal for CVS to get the exclusive, the NSA demanded that the reporter be someone who had previously held a security clearance because a security clearance means you sign a lifetime non-disclosure agreement that covers not just classified information may be privy to in your work but all classified information even leaked classified information that you have seen in your entire life. So him doing this with his legally binding nondisclosure agreement is the reason why they let him in at all. So nothing that they could classify would ever get out through this reporter. It's worse than that because what it also indicates, which is the crazy part of it... ...is that anything Snowden revealed could not be used as a question! Exactly! That's exactly correct

54:21 So he could not counter anything that whatever was said if he had evidence to the contrary based on these leaks, he couldn't use that question. Exactly! Because he'd be thrown in a slammer and CBS put up with this bullshit? What is wrong with these guys? First they have this Laura Logan who's obviously a corrupt reporter and now we have this, and these guys expect people to take them seriously. Yes because we had become anesthetized to the whole full disclosure you can't...the full disclosure would've been I have a lifetime non-disclosure agreement, I can't even ask about information

55:00 uh... that has been leaked because i can't even talk about it if its classified and for a while in the non-disclosure you can say that either exactly so this is the tiffany network well all whitewater cronkite just puked his mouth Or was it Edward R. Murrow? I can't remember... Someone puked! It is unconscionable that 20 seconds, 15 seconds of oh full disclosure i used to work in the DNI's office Wow wow okay so while we're at it he might as well just sell the lie and when you listen to him this is what's so beautiful when you don't see that guy's big head that John Miller's big head filling up my screen my 4k screen

55:44 When you don't see his head and you listen, it's almost like it is scripted. If a terrorist is suspected of having contacts inside the United States... The NSA can query a database that contains the metadata of every phone call made in the US going back five years So you understand then, there might be a little confusion among Americans who read in the newspaper that the NSA has vacuumed up the records of telephone calls from every man woman and child in the United States for a period of years. That sounds like spying on Americans. Right, and that's wrong! That's absolutely wrong. There is no... You don't hear the calls? You don't hear the call? You don't see the name? He's giving him the answers! He's not asking questions! You don't see the names?! You just see this number called that number. This is NOT an interview!!

56:39 He's answering questions. This number, the to from number, the duration of the call and the date time group that's all you get and all we can do is tell the FBI that number is talking to somebody who is very bad you oughta go look at it By the way, one of the recommendations in the report I just remembered is that this is an extension of powers. The recommendation is if someone travels to the United States, the NSA would be given 72 hours to continue to follow him instead of currently where they are supposedly supposed to stop and then hand it over to the FBI so its an extension of power, 72 hours extra.

57:33 Another bad analogy that is kind of like the excuse for using this metadata because I think they should have used the analogy and it didn't do any of these joke analogies on 60 Minutes but this one here is just as much an eye roller as a submarine one. Billions and billions of books, of information that are out there There's no viable way to go through that information if you don't use metadata In this case, metadata is a way of knowing where those books are in the library and a way of focusing our collection the same that our allies do to look at where are the bad books.

58:11 From our perspective, from the National Security Agency's perspective what we do is get great insights into the bad actors overseas. I think we need to start burning books again! Bad books? Well you know what? We will turn it into a segment here is something about a bad book The New York Daily News says that author of the anarchist cookbook wants his work pulled from shelves. It's being linked to last week's Colorado high school shooting. Burn it! William Powell's guide includes instructions on making explosives. Burn it, I say burn it! Yeah that's where we're headed people don't worry don't worry

58:47 Okay, now of course you can't do anything in any kind of fear-based program unless you link it to 9-11. This is our standard... this is how we do it, this is how we roll We know its a part of the talking points so let's roll back to 9-11 And these phone calls may go between different phone companies If you only go to one company you'll see what that phone company has but you may not see what the other phone company has or the other So by putting those together, we can see all of that essentially at one time. Before 9-11 did we have this capability? We did not Is it a factor was it a factor I believe it was What General Alexander... No wait now listen to this now This is interesting so this is typical don't play with that thing John It's annoying when I'm trying to think I'll just drop in a coin in the jar This is very annoying when you have an interviewer ask a question

59:47 then the subject answers the question, but then they turn down his volume and then over his answer say what the answer is. This is, this is the worst lowest form of journalism there is. I believe it was. What General Alexander is talking about is that two of the 9-11 hijackers Khalid Al Midhar and Nawaf al Hazmi were in touch with an Al Qaeda safe house in Yemen The NSA did not know their calls were coming from California as they would today I think this was the factor that allowed Madar. So did you hear what they just did there? Yeah, yeah they took their he was saying something but it wasn't even... It wasn't... They were amplifying a point Yes Using a trick using a TV trick without even voicing over the guy's actual comments and you see and you see explain it to the idiots watching show But we don't even know what he said! Alright if your a cis admin

1:00:51 The war is on you. There are all kinds of figures out there about how much he took, how many documents... We've been told 1.7 million And by the way this number is a CBS number we have no idea where this comes from even Gregg Greenwald has not given us this number This is an interesting number we have no idea about this but okay I wouldn't dispute that How was that possible? So the people who control that, uh...the access to those machines are called system administrators. CIS admins! And they have passwords that give them the ability to go around those security measures and that's what Snowden did. I think you know how... Here is my prediction, okay? I have a prediction about this too but go ahead. CIS admins are going to be required to get licensed and they will all receive with a variation of a national security letter

1:01:53 that will require them to not do certain things, report certain things and actually be a partner with the government. You know how in a nunnery? In a convent all the... they only have eunuchs around I think that's where we're headed They're gonna cut the nuts off of the sysadmins Poke your eyes out Yeah you'll have one capability so maybe you can use your hands but you'll have to have the guy with the eyes sit next to you They are going to disable you one way or another That's the extent to which these people are crazy John and of course We know sysadmins, and I know a sysadmin who worked on the drone program when this is admin left They said hey would you please change the root password and give it to you to the next guy? Are you kidding me

1:02:46 This is how dumb it is. They're just dumb! These people, they are fiefdoms... They don't give a crap about security really. They just want... Ugh! It's disgusting and of course ummm.... It's the Chinas. So I'm going to assume that there's one in there about China and there's one in there about Iran And there's another in there about Russia Many more than let me just get this right we're about to accuse China and Russia and Iran of hacking and spying and being horrible It's many more than one. Yes, how many of those are there? About 31 thousand if those documents fell into their hands What good would it do them it would give them a road map of what we know what we don't know and give them implicitly a way to protect Exactly so then now we go into the dashboard

1:03:35 This is so funny because this is the proof that these are basically Silicon Valley yahoos. Twice a week, under the dim blue lights of the NSA's operations center... ...the director is given a briefing. Sir we added three new hostage cases this week With his deputy Chris Inglis General Alexander listens to a rundown of global issues and international crises the NSA may be asked to collect intelligence on. Sir moving to Afghanistan? The meeting is called the stand-up because no one sits down. This is when they're wearing camo! Well, I got an answer about that... I got the answer too. Same letter from the guy who talked about the camo? Yeah we've got a camo letter. Okay but this stand up is a Silicon Valley thing

1:04:22 I remember this at Mevio that we had a new CTO came in and he decided we should do a stand-up meeting. All the engineers... He's also changed the name of the meeting to uh... Stand up! The daily stand-up No, but there was another thing that was changed. Anyway go on who cares? It's just it's the whole culture of this thing is just creepy Especially with the camo on Which is okay well The camo is standard apparently We got so many people yelling at us about it. Heaven forbid, snipers! The camo is standard that just we were wrong about the camo but... No we weren't? Yeah we were. The perception from the people... Yes we were Our assumption is as stupid how was that wrong?! That's not you're right I'm sorry I forgot that was our assumption It's they're comfortable apparently

1:05:16 All right, here's Alexander setting up the pitch. It could take down anything from the power grid to Wall Street Could a foreign country tomorrow topple our financial system? I believe that a foreign nation could impact and destroy major portions of our finance Answer the question! Yes How much of it could we stop Well, right now it would be difficult to stop it because our ability to see it is limited. One they did see coming was called the Bios Plot. Ah! This is my favorite. This is the one that anyone who has any knowledge of how things work saw right through Now Kaiser Alexander's smart he's not gonna roll this bullcrap out himself so here let's push a woman out there oh wait let's push a black woman out that's even funnier

1:06:05 I'm telling you John, this is how these people think. And did you see? You saw this! You saw what happened This is disgusting Make her tell the big lie about the BIOS that bricks the economy Plunk it direct cyber defense Oh yeah, this was horrible This was really really bad and they made her tell it which was just disgusting The NSA for the first time discusses the agency's role in discovering the plot One of our analysts actually saw that the nation state had the intention to develop and to deliver, it's actually use this capability up to destroy computers. To destroy computers? So the BIOS is a basic... They said it three times in a row! Did you hear that? Destroy computers, destroy computers, destroy computers That's how you remember things This is mind control people 60 minutes... He says destroy computers, he says destroy computers She says destroy computers You remember 1-2-3 punch

1:07:04 And 60 minutes is what the intelligentsia, what the elites, what schooled people my friends in Austin Texas watch 60 Minutes and take it as truth. Yes. They take this like it's 60 minutes man! They take it as truth? They take it as truth, they take it is true? They take it as truth. Destroyed, destroyed computers. Destroyed computers? Destroyed computers. BIOS is a basic input output system It's like the foundational component firmware of a computer you start your computer up The BIOS kicks in, it activates hardware, it activates operating system, it turns on the computer This is the biosystem which starts most computers

1:07:44 The attack would have been disguised as a request for software update. If the user agreed, the virus would have infected the computer. So this basically would've gone into the system that starts up the computer runs the systems tells it what to do? That's right and basically turned it into a cinder block? A brick After that there wouldn't be much you could do with that computer. Hold on a second, hold on stop the presses! Stopped! Presses are stopped So you're telling me the government is buying computers That don't have a factory reset hard reset On the motherboard which all of them do I've got machines all over the place And there's a little clip you put on and it resets The BIOS to factory reset in case something like this happens? How is this at cinder block or brick does it make the thing catch on fire What am I missing here

1:08:34 Or are they just full of crap? Ah, that would be it. I will point out that this is a major security issue It's an issue with the Microsoft Update Tuesday. It's an issue with any centralized updating system. It is probably the most looked after system in any computer or peripheral company Interesting that one of the recommendations of this document, the 300 page document is specifically to allow the NSA under certain circumstances to launch zero-day attacks. It says it's specifically in the document

1:09:20 that under certain circumstances the NSA should be allowed to launch zero-day exploit and attacks to protect our national security. And this is a good way to do that! Think about the impact of that across the entire globe, it could literally take down the US economy Yeah I don't think so What is she saying? She's insane This woman should be ashamed of herself. No, she shouldn't! She's just being pushed to do this It is shameful they made her do this I don't mean to be flip about this but... But okay stand by everybody Standby here it comes It has a kind of little Dr Evil quality to it that I'm going to develop a program that can destroy every computer in the world It sounds almost unbelievable Don't be fooled

1:10:11 There are absolutely nation states who have the capability and the intentions to do just that. Based on what you learned here at NSA, would it have worked? We believe it would have. Yes, it would have worked and they stopped it John! How did they stop? The BIOS bricking I don't know they killed...they saw the guy was shot in the head. If somebody wants to do this because they're out to get us why won't they do it now what's the point wait

1:10:52 A couple more really quick hits here. I had a question about this... This week, the CEOs of eight major internet providers including Google Apple and Yahoo asked the president for new limits to be placed on the NSA's ability to collect personal information from their users What exactly... I don't like this internet provider meme anymore. They're not Internet providers? Exactly! And they are providers of services on the Internet, but an Internet provider is essentially an ISP. More interesting the actual Internet providers weren't there This is this is the whole joke The internet providers were not at the meeting

1:11:30 The guys who actually open up the light port so that the NSA can tap in, they're not there. They've got nothing to say like oh yeah you're in and here's proof in Kaiser Alexander's words that they are sucking it up from the network So our objective is to collect those communications no matter where they are but we're not going into a facility or targeting Google as an entity or Yahoo! as an entity but we will collect those communications of terrorists that flow on that network. As long as it flows on the network you see, it flows on the network John! That's what its about there is um here I gotta go back to the document then have one final clip and round this out these yahoos these geniuses these shills who wrote this report had near the end they say

1:12:23 It might reduce budgetary costs and political risk if technical collection agencies could make use of artificial intelligence software that could be launched onto networks, and would be able to determine in real time what precise information packets should be collected. Such smart software will be making the sorting decision online as distinguished from current situation in which vast amounts of data are swept up and the sorting is done after it has been copied onto the data storage systems. We're unable to determine whether this concept is feasible or fantasy, but we suggest that should be examined by an interagency information technology research team. Bananas!

1:13:04 That's what I just lose you read that first thing. I'm thinking but Jc is gonna do next for the next programming it'll be that this is hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain Richard Clark will be in it somehow Billy, of course he will that's why he wrote it right in there This is his setup for and for the neck instead of her just score in the big dough oh yeah And then there's a one other thing You'll hear is A recommendation that a civilian should be running the agency. Now, let me just tell you what that means... That's code! Okay? And this is code for a spy

1:13:41 My uncle Don, when he would read about him in his early career in the New York Times it would say Donald Gregg civilian at the Pentagon. This is code! They want a CIA guy to run the NSA yeah that Obama nixed that already Yeah I know well alright and then while we're at it just to finish up the whole 60 minutes why don't we completely discredit uh... edward snowden by making him seem completely cookie he was taking a technical examination for potential employment and it's heat i mean i say uses system administrator privileges to go into the account of the nsa employee who was administering that test this is the guy you want to promote isn't this the guy who's in the ad is my eyes as you missed the being they threw them he met us

1:14:29 High school dropout. He was taking a technical examination... I forgot to put that in, you're right ...for potential employment at NSA he used his system administrator privileges to go into the account of the NSA employee who was administering that test and he took both questions and answers and used them to pass the test At home, they discovered Snowden had some strange habits. He would work on the computer with a hood that covered the computer screen and covered his head and shoulders so that he could work and his girlfriend couldn't see what he was doing This seems like standard procedure to me! But no... No let's call it very... Well he was supposed to be protecting the data It seems like he is doing hi job Yeah but no that's kooky That's pretty strange

1:15:15 Sitting at your computer kind of covered by a sheet over your head in the screen. Agreed agreed agreed agreed agreed We also learned for the first time that part of the damage assessment considered the possibility That's Snowden could have left a bug or virus behind on the NSA system Yeah, this is the funny I love this part like a time bomb a time bomb Like a time bomb it's so So all the machines that he had access to, we removed from our classified network. All the machines in the unclassified network and including the actual cables that connect those machines... The cables! It could be lurking in the cables. Are you telling me that's the technical expertise of this entire organization?

1:16:04 has gone to removing cables? Problem solved. Because they're afraid there's some evil thing lurking in the cable? Problem solved! Holy mackerel, this is the most frightening thing they said on that show This has to have cost... millions and millions of dollars. Millions, million-moons! Alright so to summarize everybody this document which is now being touted as a great recommendation is nothing more than a big bonanza for some of the... by the way Morell's leaving you know he'll wind up at some kind Company that does this stuff CEO? Chairman of the board, she's not gonna we're not gonna run anything just get paid and die. You won't be see you right He'll be just beginning exactly They're gonna build they're going to build this software which is a recommendation The NSA is going to have much easier access It'll be interesting to see I have a feeling that there is going to be a pitch and there will be a third party I think that I'd I've had a feeling that that's

1:17:02 It's just it's too nice of an opportunity. Too much money, too much money and it could be Adobe who can all they have to do is just walk across the street in Utah that data center right across from the NSA. Well Adobe has been left out of the picture they weren't given the opportunity to sit at a table with Obama and yuck it up drink Well, they're part of the... They may be. You might be right. They may be this setup for Adobe to waltz in. Yep! So I have a feeling that Adobe is ready for them already have the information. Omniture Please look at Omniture. Look at what it's doing, look at what it stores, look at the information, look at their white papers They have a military and governmental program for Omniture so you can find out what's happening in real time with someone's computer This is what Adobe is very... We're gonna see I think they got a little ding with the password thing that hacked Maybe that was

1:17:57 industrial espionage to make them look bad with this pending. I'm sure there's competition for that job Nothing is off the table at this point and with Tapper on CNN what he's saying, and with this completely unjournalistic all-in scripted 60 minutes piece There is nothing left to believe except us of course because we have nothing left to lose Well, we don't have the conflict of interest as we pointed out in the newsletter. We rely on the listeners of this show to do the kind of research that we do and come to conclusions that we come to sometimes were not right rarely

1:18:44 But it happens. And but we're not, if nothing else we're not influenced I mean we are influenced by the media itself but we try to catch most of the bull crap and i think we reveal that we've caught it 90% of the time suppose something sneaks through rarely but you can't rely on anything else. And I don't even know any other shows like ours that are so complete to do this. We really need the kind of support that we're not getting enough of from the number people that listen to the show and i'm also disappointed in people that bail from the show after a while because they find what we do is depressing when that's not the point No, it's...in fact it's quite the opposite you're supposed to feel enlightened that you know what's going on You know? I mean I guess there's the blue pill red pill

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1:21:22 He's in Hilo, Hawaii. What a life! Which is a cute little town I don't know when i was in Hilo...I was only there once ever and I was there when there was a um..when the old airport was still in business and the old Hilo Airport was the quaintest thing you've ever seen. I mean they had uh everything was outside It's just really cool. Anyway, Hilo Hawaii and he has a note he sent in. Hello Adam and John. Enclose little Christmas wish for you and yours. You certainly have helped me me make my year a great one i still do not deserve a dd she has some way behind in the value for devalued deal we have made you're finally receiving your due as i just made the very last payment to the crappy divorce lawyer of course and he certainly deserve more than he does industry thirty three thirty three more will follow thank you for your courage and thank you for enlightening us slaves well thanks is really yours and merry christmas security much uh... dennis and of course

1:22:23 uh... that is a real executive producer trip accredited can use anywhere the credits are accepted invalid hollywood would be one place you're going to be but also linkedin is great place to put your credit as executive producer of the no agenda show episode five seven five brian calvin from phoenix arizona rights and he gave us two twenty-two twenty-two service been so long i've been in law school the last three years although it managed to finish my knighthood and Is this the finish of his knighthood? I don't know. No, i think he's already a uh... a knight isn't he? I'm not sure yeah yes it says Sir Brian so you say he's already a Knight okay that's what i thought and maintain a 1212 subscription i graduated in May became a member of the Arizona Bar in October

1:23:11 uh... he by the way he wrote this by hand and just started working and got my first paycheck it looks like a psychopathic right but is accused of lawyer obviously no easy young he's under thirty or how whatever age it is excellent that you can write yeah but he's a lawyer andy's a lawyer doctors to be worse he got my first paycheck as a lawyer yesterday congratulations might two twenty two twenty-two donations just to make it rain the nice clubs these days are giving are giving out two dollar bills instead of ones. That's interesting, so not a double uh no particular call-out I would be happy with everyone else's

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1:26:25 Well, except for our fine friends here. Yeah and that's it we'll have a relatively short segment for thank yous as well but okay yeah I don't know this is not like last year yeah i know it's weird for sure uh please consider us uh as we are working very hard to bring you more value than you get from your cable bill perhaps then you get from maybe your newspaper or magazine subscription um You know, but more insight that's for sure. A lot of people say well say oh man what do you think about this? What do I think about that? You know what just wait until the show we don't have to read or watch anything and will give you all the angles and you can probably make up your own mind ultimately but will certainly give you a fun perspective to look at

1:27:15 And people do that more and more. You know, why bother? We'll do all that for you! That's...that is our job It's what we do so you don't have to. Devorac.org slash N-A-S-E And please, we would appreciate you going out there and...oops What did I do wrong here? This is the one I want Yes, we wanted to go out there propagate our formula. I'm sorry Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Order! Shut up Yeah, that's the uh... I'm gonna have a cup- little bit of coffee here. That's the uh.. The illness creeping in. And rest in peace there Al Goldstein died! Oh screw magazine. Ehh

1:28:04 I used to have a show, my favorite thing he ever did. The guy was disgusting by the way He was great! The best thing he did... he was on Public Access in New York Yeah Manhattan Cable Which is always the funniest I was in New York when Midnight Blue was the show When he had that show, I lived in New York at that time It was Channel J I thought Alex Bennett did Midnight Blue I'm pretty sure it was... Well, whatever the case was Goldstein was always on public access doing one thing or another. And my favorite one was he had this show where you were invited to come out and cuss out people Yeah He had two complaints. I saw this show a couple times All it was was Goldstein On the screen giving the finger

1:28:50 and saying, fuck you hammock or Schlemmer or whatever the company's name. Whoever he was angry at. And it had fuck you United Airlines and he was... He tells some story about how they screwed him out of a dollar or just they wouldn't refund his money or something. Yeah. Then he would sit there and scream at them. I just thought this is like well this isn't what has come to? Yeah but on the other hand those were the golden days of free speech that The whole idea of cable access, when cable first started no one knew what to do with cable. They didn't get it I mean you kids here today you think is normal that's television No they didn't know advertisers were like who's gonna watch that crap? You know...no one got it

1:29:32 And part of the deal was in order to have a cable company, which is kind of a monopoly in the region you had to allow public access and anyone could show up with their tape. You'd have to have channels for people to put it on. Al Goldstein who was really yeah he was disgusting creep but he was a free speech advocate and you need people like him to push those boundaries to show that you're supposed to be able to do that and I guarantee today you tried to do this type of show on anywhere on cable that it would be thrown off yeah if you didn't get jailed exactly and so of course that's why we've migrated to podcasting which brings up one other thing I wanted to I didn't see your name on it did you see this

1:30:26 Writers for free speech thing that they sent to the president. It might it was it maybe the air was a ACLU or the PN was a pen I think Pen America Center and it's like four four five hundred writers all said, you know Stopped the surveillance because we're self-censoring You didn't see this at all. And that's self censoring Sorry, no you're not. But... No I think i've heard about it and didn't pay much attention to it. Well there's a number of articles and and I'm just bringing this up for this very reason why it's interesting that we have taken to the podcasting in our artistic expression because

1:31:10 There's many articles saying how you know writers are not talking about things as much on the phone You know they're because writers are pussies apparently and and journalists are probably the bigger pussies And of course they're right to be worried because that you are being listened to but also what people write They're holding back their self-censoring, and I thought to myself. This is kind of beautiful Because the podcast you know, yeah I think some transcription may be possible but in general i think it's not. The NSA no one has time to listen to what we're saying the type of information and news that we are actually giving and if they did they'd be sucked in within a minute they'd be donating so we are kind of the perfect avenue because it's not something that gets you know sucked up in machine language that can read words

1:32:03 And it's too much work to go through everything, but if someone does take the time I think they'll probably like it. Yeah, I think so So this is a very important service! That's what we say. That's what we keep trying to convince ourselves Just pointing it out just doesn't need to per se convince myself nobody's got to do it I mean, it's a once in a li- essentially the would would I saw on the Elle Goldstein show and I think is that was called now they think about it and Robin What's her name? Robin Bird Robin bird she was nude Yeah And you just gave interview she was naked and we give me interview the bang your butt song at the end

1:32:44 I don't remember that, but whatever. And then there was the extra E is for extra P girl and all the rest of it that was on there was a goal... It was just a funny moment in history that disappeared completely. It's beautiful! As we get to this day as they start clamping down and smashing dissent and all the rest of it. And I want to tell people out there who think about donating say screw those guys. Let them go where I can get it for free why should I give him a nickel? I want to just say, you know you probably listen to something that won't ever be seen again anything like it. Probably five or ten years and then it'd be like oh I remember those guys who used to tell all these things and they used to go through documents now they won't even let us see the documents. Remember how I never donated to those guys? And now they're dead!

1:33:29 Yeah, I never donated because you know i didn't think it was worth why should i donate and now they're dead Now we got people that donate over and over again which is you know the ideal yeah but there's so many people out there that just are too You know it reminds me in fact talking about cheap. It's like the story going around will get to next which is the Indian diplomat story Well which had...it's a funny story in itself Before you get into that let's just pause for a second With 99% of all the information products you consume, which are changing by the way and Internet services you consume which you think of for free like, you know Like gmail and you know And then they change all the time. You know this is...You are being upgraded for their actual customers Okay That's what's going on here. You, the product, are being upgraded for their customers Which is the advertisers no one has given you the actual information we're giving you a

1:34:30 real information and we're giving you community. We're giving you a whole bunch of things, and the opportunity to support it." All right now are going talk about some cheap-ass Indian because that's usually what comes after the word Indian? Well there was this funny story that went on this week which is the diplomat in where i guess working out of New York Council or something which I always thought diplomatic immunity meant what what it says...which is immunity But that's for parking tickets, isn't it? I thought it was for murder too. Based on what I've seen in the media. Really? Well, I mean...I'm going by what I see on television. We should try that out! So there is this story becoming quite funny because this woman apparently was and its all based on a cheap Indian meme she claimed on her visa form we might as well play it so we can go through it that way This is incident one

1:33:29 Yeah, I never donated because you know i didn't think it was worth why should i donate and now they're dead Now we got people that donate over and over again which is you know the ideal yeah but there's so many people out there that just are too You know it reminds me in fact talking about cheap. It's like the story going around will get to next which is the Indian diplomat story Well which had...it's a funny story in itself Before you get into that let's just pause for a second With 99% of all the information products you consume, which are changing by the way and Internet services you consume which you think of for free like, you know Like gmail and you know And then they change all the time. You know this is...You are being upgraded for their actual customers Okay That's what's going on here. You, the product, are being upgraded for their customers Which is the advertisers no one has given you the actual information we're giving you a

1:34:30 real information and we're giving you community. We're giving you a whole bunch of things, and the opportunity to support it." All right now are going talk about some cheap-ass Indian because that's usually what comes after the word Indian? Well there was this funny story that went on this week which is the diplomat in where i guess working out of New York Council or something which I always thought diplomatic immunity meant what what it says...which is immunity But that's for parking tickets, isn't it? I thought it was for murder too. Based on what I've seen in the media. Really? Well, I mean...I'm going by what I see on television. We should try that out! So there is this story becoming quite funny because this woman apparently was and its all based on a cheap Indian meme she claimed on her visa form we might as well play it so we can go through it that way This is incident one

1:35:24 Yeah, India will outright won. India's government says it is shocked and appalled at the manner in which its deputy consul general in New York has been quote humiliated. Devyani Kobragade arrested last week charged with making false statements and visa fraud on an application for a housekeeper she pleaded not guilty and was released on $250,000 bail A diplomatic tit-for-tat is underway. On Tuesday, concrete security barriers were removed in front of the US Embassy in New Delhi India's responding to what it says was the heavy handed treatment of one its diplomats Last week India's Consul General Divyani Kobrade was arrested over charges visa fraud She was handcuffed strip searched and made to share a jail cell with the general prisoner population India has warned United States of consequences until it gets an apology

1:36:14 Every country has dignity and cannot be dealt with in this manner. More steps should be taken against the United States until they give an unconditional apology Kubera is accused of lying on her domestic workers visa application saying she would pay 9.75 an hour when in fact she paid 331 below minimum wage while India has not disputed the charges it says this is not how diplomats are friendly nations ought to be treated shaken up by the Indian response the US has said this is an isolated incident well then Jen or whatever name is Harf oh band camp

1:36:59 And she's the band camp girl comes out and she makes, she doesn't really say anything as usual. I mean, Psaki or Harf? Is it Marie Harf or Jen Psaki? Okay. Marie Harf. Harm. Harf. Yeah. Can I go? Isn't she the band camp girl? She's the band camp girl yeah. This limited episode with somebody who was charged with a crime is separate and isolated incident. We know this is sensitive issue though, that's why we're looking at what transpired and talking to the Indians about it. Bilateral relations between India and United States have grown stronger in recent years. Many believe India's reactions are way for the government to flex its muscle and stand up to the US ahead of next year general election. Welcome back Friday briefing, sorry August is over

1:37:45 Oh, and this one time at band camp I don't have anything at the top today. I stuck a flute in my pussy." I just can't help myself She can that's it That is the grossest thing that we consistently play as an evergreen But it sounds just like her Yeah It was from a number-one movie that everyone knows this great if you if I oh if I ever met her I'll just be like well anyway Indians and then we have the I don't understand why they had to strip search the woman because it just seems funny. It's much funnier Well, it is a hilarious and we all admit that in the Indians Don't have much of a sense of humor from what I can tell hmm. I mean I've seen their movies

1:38:26 But now they've like, they took all the barriers away and they stopped the Indian Guard around the US Embassy. They essentially invited them off to attack the embassy. Isn't this kind of just... She's gonna pay three bucks an hour? No but this is what we do when we want to pick a fight with somebody The Russians are doing the same with the Netherlands right now We arrested one of their diplomats, they arrested one of ours. Now they're like oh we're not gonna take your milk products anymore! It's this childish it's just going back and forth when it's all really about buying some big gun or something...it's always the same and Indians I don't know I-I-I-I don't understand. I don't understand Indian are there is India any good to us at all?

1:39:12 Is India of any use? Well, they provide us with most of our semiconductor designers. They seem to have a real knack for designing hardware. But we could grow those guys here! Yeah...to a point. These guys are really good at that. That's about it from what I can tell but uh.... I could be wrong, but i don't know because we don't have too many. We know Indians admit to ever listening to the show except a few that have you know become Americans and I'm not...I don't think they count. We never have a dashboard. They do once every two years one of them donates but they're just really it's of the opinion they have this their religious their basic religious orientation with reincarnation and the rest is that you get what you deserve

1:39:55 Well, there's no reason to donate anything right then they get what they deserve or they get our scorn well They do get our scorn which is a DM the FBI Something really I'm gonna get this from this must have been it was really funny Of course we had our six-week cycle and the FBI. I think they're pissed off because You know, this is what they do. This is the big oh you know we've entrapped some guy but they never really tell it like that but we stopped someone from blowing up the airport We thwarted this self-radicalized homegrown terrorist plot He intended to kill lots of people and he got snowed under because of this unfortunate school shooting So the FBI comes out and they send a douchebag And this guy IS a douche bag

1:40:44 a really weird, round funny sweaty head to say the following. Today the FBI said that this year its agents prevented 150 attacks like the one in Colorado. They're so angry! What? Are you kidding me?! Wait wait it gets better because they're actually going to now say that they always try to stop someone from violence well the opposite is true because they tried to honeypot them into doing it. This is the funniest clip. The Bureau is working with communities to spot potential threats early and our Homeland Security correspondent Bob Orr got an inside look at how it works

1:41:25 Andre Simmons runs an FBI unit charged with stopping mass shootings before they happen. Three times a week, Simmons and the Behavioral Threat Assessment Center confront a case dealing with a potential shooter identified through tips from churches police campus security and businesses when you study somebody What is it that jumps off the page at you as this is a real problem? Oh pay attention, pay attention. This is what they're looking for perhaps what we look at Is there a fascination with previous attacks hmmm I hope no one looks in my Google searches. Uh is there an overwhelming sense of a downward spiral oh yeah

1:42:07 Often in mass shootings, as in the attacks at the Colorado Movie Theater and the Washington Navy Yard gunmen reveal warning signs to co-workers neighbors or classmates Simmons says when the FBI gets an early heads up about threatening behavior analysts work to redirect the subject from violence to mental health treatment. This is okay so stop here A this is clearly another notch in the war on crazy because you know your crazy And two, this is a lie. The FBI says oh hey here's the guy who wants to blow something up let's go egg him on! Monitoring or custody? The FBI team researches the subject's background and often interviews the person and acquaintances

1:42:50 In the past year, the behavioral team has tackled 150 cases. Not one resulted in violence. Do you believe this John? Do you believe what they're doing? This is great! I think you thought this would be clip of the day. That's what i thought yeah. This isn't about making arrests or locking people up...this is about stopping events While prosecution obviously remains as the FBI one of our main priorities we really think prevention is even better Still the challenge is growing. Prevention through entrapment. Fire at a Colorado high school is the latest reminder These active shooters are continuing so we're doing everything we can to unite mental health care resources with law enforcement and make a positive change Yeah, war on crazy mental health care two things to say about that one you're not going to hear much more about the Arapahoe High School shooting for two reasons one it was an armed

1:43:42 security officer who stopped this armed... Before you go on I was watching one of these shows and they were going on it right now the litany was there, was just you know gun violence. The They played two clips, they play the head of the NRA who recommend he says you guys got a problem with this we like our guns put an armed guy in the school and that'll stop it. Yes! And so they did that now everyone's going whoops wait a minute but let's back off on this because this is actually what the NRA suggested... And there's this little ditty here's what another student had to say about him He was friendly enough, very proud of being a socialist. He was very outspoken on his political views to him it just meant economic equality more economic equality yeah proud to be a socialist oops kid picked the shooter yeah proud to be a socialist oops oops yeah no I think we should shh don't talk x-nay on the Ocialists say

1:44:47 Okay, somebody's gonna get shoot out for this. Um they put it into the public domain I mean there obviously is a hundred and fifty of these events commonly happening And they could have put any one of them up there except but they did put up to Wichita thing But meanwhile that some who are let this thing slide into the public consciousness was made a huge mistake huge mistake And remember we had, well actually I'll bring it up after this. This is the latest development in the Boston bombing of course where apparently there is videotape of the Sarneff brothers one or two depositing a backpack with said

1:45:26 pressure cooker explosive into the wastebasket. Oh is that right Adam? Have you seen that video? No we have not seen the video nor has the governor of Massachusetts seen the video although he's reliably informed it exists but...but why? Why haven't we seen this video? Well because its for your own protection 9-11 security, cyber something but of course Now, we know the real issue.

1:46:14 So I'm watching Democracy Now before you go on. I want to play this clip, fewer psych beds and they go on and on about this... And I have to make a comment after this clip but this is the war on crazy. We certainly hope that the Newtown massacre causes people to realize that for years we've actually been going in the wrong direction on mental health. The states have been cutting billions of dollars out of mental health budgets and so the relatively modest increases we've seen in the last year are only beginning to make up for that fact. We have 90% fewer inpatient psychiatric beds today than we had in 1950s. We have no place to put the crazy people!

1:47:06 The funny thing about this is unfortunately there's people old enough such as myself who remember the whole scene as it evolved. It was, I guess it began probably before I was born but there was this movement amongst the liberals only to close down these horrible mental facilities because the life there was so miserable and hard on them that they should have had community servicing or something else. We had to shut down these mental hospitals, and there was a bunch of them around in the Bay Area. There's one up in Napa, the Sonoma, one for the insane... There were Agnews down in San Jose. There was one here in Austin. And we're moaning and groaning about this it was all brought to a head by the movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest in the book

1:47:46 And so when Ronald Reagan got into office, he was being hounded by the liberals. You know that they're gonna dismantle... He basically just shut them all down and said you guys this is what you want? Fine! So he shut them all down and then it's been sliding ever since but now because we can use this as leverage to get people to vote against the Republicans. I don't know how you make that connection because it was the Liberals who wanted these places shut down and release the crazies into the public It's actually very, I have to say this is one of the best turnarounds of concept versus reality I've ever seen. In other words it's like if the reality of what's going on is completely misused. Yeah well I think its going one step further

1:48:30 Mental health and the diagnosis and treatment of mental health is determined by one main system in the United States. And you know what this is, this is one of my favorites! It's the DSM, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In the DSM we have ODD which we've discussed when it first came out...it's now published Oppositional Defiant Disorder Even the best behave can be difficult and challenging at time, but if your child or teen has a persistent pattern of tantrums arguing an angry or disruptive behavior towards you and other authority figures he or she may have oppositional defiant disorder as they should

1:49:17 As a parent you don't have to... So just drug them so they'll be more compliant. Let me give you the, this is from the Mayo Clinic I'm not reading from some bullcrap thing mayoclinic.com as a parent you don't have to go it alone in trying to manage a child with oppositional defiant disorder doctors counselors and child development experts can help treatment of ODD involves therapy training to help build positive family interactions and medications to treat related mental health conditions This is where it's going. And then once you're drugged, once you're on the drug then you are in the system and they have your information and... Then you can't do a lot of things like drive a car be around children other children, being in civil service. Can't buy a gun

1:50:04 Your child- so here's some of the symptoms, just so you know. Uh your child and by the way it says child now this could also be your neighbor... ...your brother, your sister, your father, your mother that's just a matter of definition may be displaying displaying signs of ODD instead of normal uh moodiness if the behaviors are persistent if the behavior has lasted at least six months how about six years on this show? Are clearly disruptive to the family and home or school environment The following behaviors are associated with ODD. John, you ready? I'm-I'm ready! Negativity What?! Defiance Okay Disobedience And hostility directed towards authority figures Well there you have it and here are some of the behavior show yes

1:50:59 These behaviors might cause your child to regularly and consistently, so this is how it may surface. Have temper tantrums Be argumentative with adults Refuse to comply with adult requests or rules Annoy other people deliberately Blame others for mistakes or misbehavior. Act touchy and easily annoyed, feel angered and resentment, be spiteful or vindictive, act aggressively towards peers have difficulty maintaining friendships have academic problems and feel a lack of self-esteem I mean this is from the manual that determines if you have a mental health issue

1:51:48 So go ahead and laugh, and let it go. And don't say anything because they're coming for you eventually. Coming for everybody? Yeah You get rid of those personality characteristics from the general population...you've got problems Nobody's left No It pretty much includes most people that think for themselves You know as you stand up to say that's bull crap Yep That puts you in that category The ultimate answer is lobotomy Well there's that Did you see this clip that's been going around, Barbara Walters? What she said about Obama. No! Oh it was a great clip. Just little... what do you call the thing they serve in between to cleanse your palate? Entremont. An entremont of Barbara Walters about... Of course she did her... Hold on a second. What is this people? Go away. Well he has gone ladies and gentlemen That's the old Nokia E71 I have laying around. It's the only phone I possess

1:52:57 Oh, is that what you're using now? Yeah. It doesn't have GPS? Pretty much nothing. It's got a keyboard! 1-2-1-2... I thought i heard a weird sound. Um yeah it has a real keyboard. So she has her most interesting people of 2013 Of course it was Hillary Clinton, gee who would have expected that. But here's what she said on CNN I think it was... She said what she said about Obama was kind of funny. Well you've touched on him to a degree he made so many promises we thought that he was going to be I shouldn't say this at Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole Obamacare or whatever you want to call that a formidable affordable She does it double one. I got to play that again She says Obama care or a formidable whatever you want to call it? You can't even say affordable I think she's drunk. I think she's drunk and then she doesn't know how many years he has left I think she's gone senile promises We thought that he was going to be

1:53:54 I shouldn't say this at Christmas time, but the next Messiah and the whole Obamacare or whatever you want to call that a formidable affordable health act. It just hasn't worked for him and he stumbled around on it and people feel very disappointed because they expected more It's very difficult when the expectations for you are very high. You're almost better off when they're low and then they rise and rise, his were very high... ...and they've dropped but he still has several years to go What does he have? Three more years Pierce? And there will be a lot of changes at one point. You're an idiot! What does he have three more years Pierce?! The blind leading the blind brother I know That was your entremont Yeah that was cute I probably have something like that

1:54:45 Alright, I'm just holding back and waiting. Okay well if you want to play an entremont for me play Stonehenge. I have a- this is pet peeve! Okay oops ooops... Stonehenge tried to get away from me The droids of Salisbury Plain have voiced their displeasure They're comparing a new display of neolithic remains in Stonehenge To a Victorian peep show one of Europe's oldest and most mysterious man-made attractions getting a 27 million pound makeover that includes a 21st century state of the art visitor center. What? Can you imagine You know, I went to Stonehenge...I'll be real quick. I went to Stonehenge as a kid and there was no gate around it you could say this is what i'm gonna bitch about all right go so i went in 1973 so exactly 40 years ago i went to stonehenge and i sat on the stones yeah and there was nobody there there was like i was with someone that they were which i was warming around with and there was a bunch of cows nearby

1:55:48 And there was nothing. There wasn't anything you had to go visit, hey look at this cool... I think there was a small shop that sold little stone hinges or something and they were closed It was like you walk up there and kick the stones do whatever you want So then some hooligans came along and painted the damn things so they fenced it off and now their making it- The last time I went which is with the kids The place was packed! There's like 200 people there. Yeah, I went my dad to ruined it My dad took me and it was probably 78 he took me on a trip to London Which is not a good trip for number of reasons anyway? Whoa um so then we went to we went to oops

1:56:30 We went to Stonehenge and you're right. I think there were a couple of druids walking around, like who was that? Just some weird guys don't worry about them. People are kind of spaced out walking around but you could sit on everything, you could lean against it You took the picture, hey here i am in Stonehenge And then they got roped off and now they have a 23 million dollar pound visitor center Yeah It's like the time when I did the documentary in Thailand And it was supposed to be this rough guide thing, you know all kinds of weird stuff. You do like drink cobra blood and go up to the Burmese border and the Golden Triangle... ...and chew on leaves and opium. It was great! Then we went let's see The Long Necks. Like okay? We drive for hours and I'm like wow this is really where only a few people have seen The Long Necks in Thailand

1:57:27 And then there's a big sign with like, a finger pointing long neck this way. Like you know it's like... and I was really buying into it! And we even made the other guy go, oh this is very few Westerners have been. The minute you get there they're all yeah they're all like give me bot bots bots that's all they could say but but but they want money so you can take a picture with a long neck It's all be- it's all the whole thing is one big Disneyland. There's not much- It's unbelievable There's not much originality left, is there? Speaking of bot bot bot! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On No Agenda Morning

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2:05:06 From popular technology done that I created a shortcut go to ice age curry calm Ice age curry calm and then I will play The video that's on that page This is essentially a link from the 70s and it shows starts off right there with the time magazine Cover the big freeze weaker time time. Oh, do you have the page? I'm on it now Yeah You see that you see the big Time Magazine there I haven't scrolled down. No, it's at the top! Why do you have to scroll down? It's the top. I don't have that it just a movie. You don't have a whole bunch of links? Yeah there is a bunch of links and then on the top is video with says in search of coming Ice Age Oh this should be well maybe hasn't loaded on your system or something above that Is the Time Magazine cover but here is here's a piece of that video They took that down looks like might be Well no it loaded for me

2:06:07 This is there it is okay cropped up when I refreshed. This is Leonard Nimoy better known as mr.. Spock from Star Trek doing a voiceover for the coming ice age this is from 1978 and you can just replace everything you hear with well, let's see Al Gore Just think the voice al gore and think global warming when they say global cooling. This is 1978 not even that long ago In 1977, the worst winter in a century struck the United States. Arctic cold gripped the Midwest for weeks on end. Great blizzards paralyzed cities of the Northeast. One desperate night in Buffalo eight people froze to death in marooned car. Pat Bushnell was on the road that night

2:07:02 Traffic just absolutely stopped. I was afraid of being stuck in the car all night long with the cold and the wind running out of gas, and then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through. I think we'd have to think about moving someplace else. Move where? The brutal Buffalo Winter might become common all over the United States. Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence it could come sooner than anyone had expected

2:07:42 At weather stations in the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Seacoast long free of summer ice are now blocked year round According to some climatologists within a lifetime we might be living in the next Ice Age. Woo! It is exactly the same propaganda that's going on today Exactly the same Now that would've gotten clip of the day Right I can't accept it It is exactly... I'm just telling you it's a good clip. You've got three clips today that were all worthy. Yeah, but it's

2:08:21 Where did that, that is this good find on this website? Yeah. This page is great it has just a million links about the ice age from 1970 all the way through 1979. I mean there's not one or two links we're talking about...there are like 100! And look at the publications LA Times Is Mankind Manufacturing A New Ice Age For Itself Let's see St Petersburg Times Pollution Called Ice Age Threat Uh, dirt will bring new ice age. Ice Age refugee dies underground! Pollution might lead to another ice age! Air pollution may cause ice age! There's a new ice age coming! Ice Age begins a new assault in the north This is great Time Magazine Science! Another ice age? Isn't this fantastic? This is a great collection Yeah it's really really good and this is what you need to hit people in the mouth with Climate change is called ominous New York Times

2:09:16 Let's look at that one. Let's see if that one still exists- oh, do you have to pay for this? If you go to select... yeah You gotta pay for it. Climate change is called ominous scientists warn predictions must be made precise to avoid catastrophe Changes in the Earth's climate are inevitable and mankind must learn to predict these variations to avoid potential catastrophe A group of prominent scientists has concluded after two years study Oh I could do that voice Yeah, almost. You get a Carlton-born or whatever his name was Okay let me try the Chicago Tribune and see if I can do that Oh you have to buy all these man Die sage cometh! The system that controls our climate and...you have to buy the rest of the article

2:09:58 The end of the world is to be heralded by a summer that is no summer. The bitter cold persists and the sun gives neither light nor warmth. If you tilt your voice to having kind of like, some-ah... You need to mispronounce things in certain way so it's very... And it has to be stiffer, not stiff enough. Okay let me see I'm just gonna bring up a new one Right around the corner Ice Age predicted Cambridge Massachusetts UPI A scientist predicts a little ice age could begin in about 135 years. Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorologist Herd C Willett, in an article in the latest issue of Technology Review, predicts temperatures generally will get lower in the coming years He said this could lead to a period when glaciers begin building up! A little ice age

2:10:49 How's that? It's better. I like it, you can use it So this is great when you look at all these articles and maybe you should print these out and take them into school Take him into school kids Hey teacher what is this? Time Magazine Are they lying to us? Time magazine 1977 The Big Freeze And the main one thats been floating around we've had on the show before That main article was in Newsweek so everybody was all-in on this Yeah. And they were all in for look how long it was all in for like eight years! No, ten-ten years out through from 70 through 79 Well okay 10 right

2:11:28 What else are they? Oh there's more videos, I hadn't even seen this. The Weather Machine... Yeah a decade of frightening the public right to November 14th 79 as a matter of fact here is the new ice age almost upon us Here is the BBC's 1970... Get ready to freeze! Spokane Daily Chronicle 1979 The BBC 1974 documentary The Weather Machine Let's listen to this There's the ever-present threat of a big freeze Will a new ice age claim our lands and bury our northern cities? It's buried Manhattan Island before when great glaciers half-a-mile thick filled the valley of New York's Hudson River. The warm periods are much shorter than we believed originally, they are something around 10 thousand years long

2:12:17 And I'm sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just passed its 10,000 years birthday What of course means that the Ice Age is due now anytime. Anytime! Oh and a reminder as of January 1st because of all this global warming climate change bullshit new light bulb bands kick in your 40 and 60 watt bulbs are going away Convert to LEDs everybody or worse those mercury RF emitting pieces of crap. Yeah that go They make a bunch of racket give you one I have one of those things in the dining room when you turn it on It sounds like a sirens are why do you even have it in your house? Take it out

2:13:07 I like it because it, I can barely hear but the but everyone else in the group they... It's DOD or whatever. It's called. I found this annoying. I'm purposely annoying people! I found this other outfit called climate nexus. What is it again? Called climatenexus.org Climate you should go to the climatenexus.org and these are the climate change propagandists Under the what is this is just interesting. So this is how they do it What we do, We strive to tell the climate story in new innovative in-innovative ways That's how the British say it, Innovative Ways

2:13:47 A few examples of our work. Superstorm Sandy, the idea... this is a pitch to this website. Superstorm Sandy approached the mid-Atlantic on October 26th 2012. Polling indicates that making connections to extreme weather helps people understand the significance of climate change and its associated impacts In line with his research Climate Nexus identified the storm as potential messaging focus! Hey! This should be us We're dumb.

2:14:37 During the storm and its aftermath, we put journalists in contact with our expert partners, Dr. Kerry Emanuel, Dr. Kevin Trentberth, Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, Dr. Jay Marshall Shepard, Dr. Anthony Leiserwitz, Dr. Jennifer Francis and Jeff Mesters Our efforts helped secure dozens of interviews for these experts on the storm and climate change which generated hundreds of stories in mainstream media This is how it works. No, this is exactly how it works and our goal... ...is to find the sources that are pulling this stuff And to replicate them and get rich! Well yeah ideally Wow the PDF they have Superstorm! This is great Oh my god these guys are good

2:15:20 Press coverage includes AP, Bloomberg Times Los Angeles Times. You can change that moniker from press coverage to suckers. Yeah really? Suckers include the AP, Bloomberg New York Times, Los Angeles Times Washington Post The Guardian of course yeah The Boston Globe Time Atlantic Journal Constitution Politico Hardball with Chris Matthews CNN NPR and the NBC and PBS News Hour That is there's mainstream media in a nutshell And now on Reddit Science Forum if you are a climate change skeptic your comments will be banned from the reddit. Well, your comments if you're a climate change skeptic are banned from Wikipedia! Yeah there you go. That's a well-known problem and we've been had... Good catch that is good one We've been had I can't but so a producer to point it out to me I can't believe how dumb I am in this case This Chinese moon landing

2:16:24 So-called moon landing, alleged moon landing. It's so obvious it's fake They handed it to us on a silver platter and I didn't see it Here is the headline Jade Rabbit Rover Basks in Lunar Bay of Rainbows Really? The jade rabbit is a well known sex toy that has been around for decades And bay of rainbows if thats not a metaphor for vagina then I don't know what is. These guys are laughing at us! I'm surprised they didn't use Happy Valley. It may come, I don't know it's...I can't believe it! Don't ruff! Jade Rabbit basks in Lunar Bay of Rainbows Are you kidding me Chiners? I give them props for that though. It went by- I didn't even see it first now actually Paul Pierdemon

2:17:27 Turn me on to that. You remember the talking about China? The incident supposing one of our destroyers was damn near rammed, that piece of crap that Ukrainian aircraft carrier that the Chinese have built out? Yeah yeah this is this... they had to change direction to avoid... Oh move quick! So here's what actually really happened which has never been reported here. Of course not And I agree with this report because this report came from the NHK Japanese news service and they're unlikely to be on the side of the Chinese in any dispute. No, but here's the way they tell what happened. China has rebutted US criticism concerning a near miss between their naval vessels earlier this month in the South China Sea U.S Pacific Fleet officials said last week that the Aegis equipped cruiser USS Calpins narrowly avoided collision with the Chinese naval vessel The incident occurred on December 5th and international waters

2:18:30 U.S officials said the Chinese vessel maneuvered too close to the Aegis cruiser and it failed to act in line with international norms, which resulted in a near miss China's defense ministry issued a statement on Wednesday saying its vessel handled the encounter in strict accordance with protocol It said that two defense departments were kept informed of the situation and carried out effective communications The ministry added that both sides are willing to maintain close cooperation and make efforts to ensure regional peace and stability US media reported that China's Liaoning aircraft carrier had been conducting training exercises and the Aegis cruiser had been gathering intelligence. The report said that although the Chinese side ordered the USS Calpins to stop, the cruiser kept moving because it was in international waters then the Chinese vessel blocked its course. Mm-hmm That sounds about right

2:19:24 It was just harassing them. Yeah, spying on their deals. Well we're in the Chinese sea anyway you know I'm sorry we're saving people in the Philippines with the USS George Washington biggest aircraft carrier in the universe yeah we're saving people here A couple of sorties a day saving people. Of course we report it, misreport the whole thing Yeah I mean i think it'd be fine if we honestly say yeah We're out there harassing the Chiners Yes! We came by and shot them in that crappy old aircraft carrier But no, they way they have it If you listen to some of these reports Oh the Chinese are building up their munitions They're gonna have a bunch of these aircraft carriers This aircraft carrier is a piece of crap

2:20:04 The funny thing is, the way you just said that which sounded very Top Gun-ish. Which of course is our culture of our movies and everything... The American people I think we're ready for that kind of talk! We're okay with it! You don't have to lie and..I mean seriously if the news just came on and then you had Dempsey well Dempsey's not the right guy but he needs someone with a little more stance they go yeah we're harassing them dem chinks Yeah, you know why? Because we're protecting these islands here. That's important to us and our allies here. Nobody is... yeah, well I think the idealism that you expressed there is it to an extreme

2:20:44 including the epithet. We got to call the jab because it's not going to happen in this country because of the old women that really are behind, oh you can't say that or if you do even said something bad I would stop your ad you know take your ad which let's go after the advertiser which they're doing on a number of shows now wait stop! I have another example of this cultural Marxism by the way you miss me saying jabs and nips I did. Yeah, well and here's another one we can't do Jennifer Lawrence She's an actress people who judge other women especially on the red carpet you're very sensitive to that Why? Because why is humiliating people funny And also and I get it and and I do it too We all do it but then why is it funny because she's a dick I think when it comes to the media

2:21:34 The media needs to take responsibility for the effect that it has on our younger generation, on these girls that are watching these television shows and picking up how to talk and how to be cool. So then all of a sudden being funny is making fun of the girl wearing an ugly dress or making fun of the girl You know, and the word fat. I just think it should be illegal to call somebody fat on TV if we're regulating cigarettes and sex and cuss words because of the effect it has on our younger generation why aren't we regulating things like calling people fat? How about smelly bitches Why aren't we regulating things like calling people fat? That's the exact quote. Yeah, that's what it is! Why aren't we regulating things like calling people... by the way should be such as but that's another story. Wow and of course Barbara Walters How do you get like this?! This is.. What do you mean how do you get like this she's a part of The Establishment that's how you get like this

2:22:33 This is what the establishment talks like. This is how the elites... And Bill Gates and Melinda Gates, they're in on this too They walk around talking this R word S word T word C word V Word This is how-this is what happens! Then we lose everything We lose language, meaning, identity, freedom of speech We lose the opportunity to talk freely as human beings. Definitely lose freedom of speech, that's what this is all about Yeah! What happened to you can say I may not agree with what you say but i'll defend your right to say it to the death? No everyone was like screw that You shouldn't say that That's what it has evolved too You shouldn't say that It's not nice and its hurting someone's feelings You cant' say that

2:23:34 Okay, how about this then? This is actually... I thought this would get clip of the day. We do know as we look at the larger picture here Sean that LGBT rights it's just one of the points of friction between- This it another F Russia about Soshi games and you know Oh yeah I got a couple clips to follow Our country in Russia right now as we look at the litany of other things right now It's Russia support for Syria their relationship with Iran current crisis in the Ukraine, also the protection of asylum that was granted to NSA leaker Edward Snowden there in Russia. So how do you think that the president can balance all the delicate foreign policy issues but still take a decisive stand on human rights because so many people consider President Obama to be the first gay president?

2:24:22 I don't think he meant to say that. I don't know if that's...I think it may be wrong because, don't forget, he was on the cover of Business or Newsweek as first gay president. Yeah yeah and has come up in other venues that he is gay. We know we know them we know the facts fact But I don't know, it depends on what outlet that was. I know there's a lot of stuff going on in fact if you want to see the classic, it is all anti-Russian and anti Putin stuff and apparently, I guess there's some sort of... Well play the clip USA sends gays to the Olympics. Oh God!

2:25:01 Hey, where's my memo? Barack Obama may be even a slap in the face for the Russian delegation. An openly gay athlete tennis legend Billie Jean King will be part of the US delegation to the opening ceremony in Russia on February 7th there will be no U.S. President there will be no U.S First Lady no Vice President and not a single member of the cabinet here in Washington instead that would be gay rights activist And there is this statement from the White House to back things up. The Obama administration says that its delegation, quote, represents the diversity that is the United States. We haven't even spoken about the closing ceremony yet. That will also have as part of its delegation an openly gay American athlete. That will be Caitlin Cahill. She's a two-time Olympic medalist in ice hockey

2:25:56 clear snub and a protest almost on behalf of the Obama administration. Russian President Vladimir Putin will not be happy." Hold on a second, okay so besides the fact that Pakistan actually has outlawed gay sex constitutionally and you know everything's all good with them in fact you know they're still letting us drone their terrorists and there's not a word said about that We are now going to continue this bullcrap meme that Russia has some anti-gay stance, which is categorically not true. And in fact Russian laws are much more LGBTQLMNOP friendly than United States laws in general but then we're sending Billie Jean King?

2:26:46 as our gay sent someone hot this is dumb who cares Billie Jean when is the last time she was on a tennis court when's the last time she was on a woman this is dumb let me look at this Caitlin, is she hot? This Caitlin, uh... By the way I listened to this and it's like oh that's just you know they did this one other time. I remember years ago they had the commonwealth games against them. I got all dizzy from that outburst i'm sorry. Well it was because your ill. It was a good outburst though I enjoyed it so we've done this before in the past but why doesn't you know the people that have to crack down on this is not the Russians they should just who cares we get whatever money we get where's the Olympic committee

2:27:32 They're the ones that, these guys run the world. They should be coming over and saying hey you're never going to get another Olympics in your country if you keep this bullshit up How could they even choose this country? Because it's not true! They love it It's all about the money for them This is fantastic! It's a promotion everyone will watch But Billie Jean King Well yeah they'll watch that but I'm saying well...that's true But come on If we are gonna send a lesbian to Russia Let's send a good one You know, geez Louise why does it have to be Billie Jean King? That's like Elton John with a bra. I mean come on! I don't know where that came from. Please vote for us. Oh man

2:28:22 So they're going after the RT is finally getting out of its shell and they're just trying to blast the US every way they can. So let's look at this clip which is the anti-American Middle East pitch on Russia Today, which I just think was off the wall. What do you make of how the U.S. is responding to this issue given that conflicting interests here for example in Syria? You have the Assad government which has been friendly to the Christian communities, but the US is opposed to the Assad government and instead favors the rebels. Which we're now seeing factions of the rebels not being friendly to Christians Can you even play a role in mitigating this problem? Nobody understands what the U.S game plan at this time in the Middle East The U.S for the first time in a very long time

2:29:07 are perceived in the Middle East, even by its strongest allies such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt as an unreliable partner. This is quite harsh I have not heard such a harsh criticism for the US government probably since the height of the anti-American sentiments in the Middle East in the 60s So they're going, believe me story after story all they're doing is blasting our foreign policy and blasting the US on RT with various anchors and they are all in on this. It's actually quite entertaining I have to say. Meanwhile there is... I think Putin changed something. He did away with RIA

2:29:53 He closed down the RIA news organization and has bolstered RT. I think there was, I read about some change so that makes sense if we're seeing an increase in anti-American sentiment from them Yeah and pro Syrian sentiment including this...I've got a couple clips on the Syria thing Play great Assad propaganda Okay... Yes, yes those are the rebels by the way. That's the rebel yeah that's of course it's completely believable They're throwing children out of windows and nobody is doing anything about a play Assad part 2 Oh this is getting good very nice hearing authorities say they have evidence confirming that massacres have taken place in address Sadat Latakia and many other areas which remain under the control of the armed opposition

2:30:54 The situation in Syria has now deteriorated to the point that international norms of combat are no longer being observed. Of course, they're throwing kids out windows! Now these are the rebels who were throwing the kids out of the windows? Yeah yeah obviously and then we go to part three and wrap it up. Adra is an industrial town with a lot of its residents working both in the private sector and for government agencies horrifying crimes have been committed in this town Houses were set on fire with people trapped inside the Syrian army which is positioned just outside the town Continues to carry out surgical strikes as part of their effort to liberate Adra Which is now the only hope of the families waiting for news of their loved ones inside the town You know how

2:31:39 Well, before you say that I just wanted... That thing you just heard. That thing there is so amateurish! Surgical strikes? Yeah it's my favorite word. And all the rest of this... These Russians suck at this! Yeah well they yeah yeah they suck and they need help with surgical strikes. I heard it. I was thinking that um you know how uh my mom would say like you know if if you don't clean up your room we're going to send So now parents have about sending the food to starving Chinese right so now you can just say, you know If you don't behave yourself Adam Clark Curry I'm sending you to Syria where they throw children like you out the window Yeah, they sure got the window. Damn no apparent reason No, of course not well This is not very good. I have a couple of throat callbacks to their earlier part of the show Oh, okay

2:32:38 One of them, which is not... the callback is the Saab wins the jet deal. Listen to this little piece of propaganda I believe that think this was on Vancat so it wasn't a Russian propaganda but I think its very telling and if anyone should be at the table with laughing Obama and Biden It should have been the CEO of Boeing. Now Brazil has managed to put several noses out of joint in both France and the United States, in choosing who to buy new fighter planes from. Yeah a simple deal that's caused a lot of diplomatic uh...tussle I suppose after decades of on-and-off negotiations it was Sweden's Saab

2:33:15 which won the four point five billion dollar contract to supply fighter jets to brazil now the deal will see sap out of west applied with thirty six new jets by twenty twenty one s over competition from france's death toll and also boeing an american company now when brazilian government source said that he was the nsa spying scandal because the american firm at its chance that winning back contracts about certainly is surprise choice interesting uh... You know, Snowden wrote an open... well I'm sorry. Grant Greenwald! Don't rough! Wrote an open letter on behalf of Edward Snowden because it's Greenwald writing you can tell. Actually there are analytic tools that you could run and probably find it was him Do we have those tools handy?

2:34:04 Actually, I have a couple of them but you know they're buried somewhere in the office. Don't count on it! You could've just said no... Yeah No Where he is now vying for asylum in Brazil and everything starts to come into vision now, you know what I mean? Well actually the unreported Snowden suggested deal is that clip about exactly what you said Wow, you come prepared white man and as NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden offers to help Brazil dig deeper into NSA activities He said he could do so in exchange for political asylum Snowden's leaks have provoked outrage about US mass surveillance worldwide. Yeah. Yeah No, I did it's all coming into view now but what was interesting about this letter? Hold on a second And the reason I don't need any

2:34:58 Any tools hold on I have a letter here Open letter to the people of Brazil. Let me just open this up in the web browser There was something very annoying in here that caught my eye and as an no agenda producer everyone else will go Oh brother, so it says says and open letter to people of Brazil Edward Snowden six months ago. I stepped out from the shadows la de la de la de la and then we have I have expressed my willingness to assist wherever appropriate and lawful, but unfortunately the United States government has worked very hard to limit my ability to do so. Going so far as to force down the presidential plane of Evo Morales to prevent me from traveling to Latin America! That's a lie." Well it's not only a lie but he wasn't on that plane. No

2:35:59 So it's a double kind of a it's a lie in different dimensions The the plane was not forced down. We have the air traffic control audio we've played it several times They add they they had their own Lie on the flight crew at their own lie that I wanted to land because something was wrong with their gauges They asked to land no one was forced down No matter how you put it, going so far as to force down the presidential plane. That is a lie and that tells me that Glenn Greenwald wrote it He writes this stuff This guy...is okay Hey I need to remind you we were gonna talk about something related to that

2:36:45 Come on, about Bezos' Washington Post. Oh yeah, Bezos and the Washington Post. Well I got the two clips that sets it up we can talk about it. Yeah The first one would be... Bezos Washington Post. No, no it would be Bezos. Yeah the Bezos Washington Post and CIA story. Moving on the Washington Post is dealing with conflict of interest questions that newspaper was recently acquired by Jeff Bezos the founder and CEO of Amazon And as CEO of Amazon, Bezos recently signed a $600 million contract with the CIA to provide cloud computing infrastructure. The 600 million that Bezos is getting from the CIA eclipses the 250 million he paid to buy The Washington Post newspaper and there are questions over whether or not this deal could affect The Washington Post reporting on CIA matters Here's Bezos responding on 60 Minutes

2:37:42 Does that present any conflict for you the fact that you provide the cloud that does CIA uses for its data? I don't think so. We're building what's called a private Cloud for them Charlie because they don't want to be on the public Cloud But here's what former Washington Post reporter John Hanrahan told the Huffington Post. Quote, one thing is certain post reporters and editors are aware that Bezos as majority owner of Amazon has a financial stake in maintaining good relations with the CIA and this sends a clear message to even the hardest-nosed journalist that making the CIA look bad might not be a good career move right Is it Bezos or Bezos? Oh, who cares. Beznos! Play the professor on the CIA and Bezos in Amazon Story

2:38:26 This is the guy that, this by the way was all on Russia Today to you know again go after us. I mean i would hate to be a Washington Post reporter on that beat. I'd hate to be a Washington Reporter on a few other beats uh that Bezos you know was involved in but yeah it has a chilling effect everyone there knows at The Washington Post that Amazon already played a role, it wasn't a very kosher one in kicking Wikileaks off of its web hosting which really hurt Wikileaks during the height of the controversy awhile back.

2:39:03 And so the relationship of Amazon and Bezos to an agency like the CIA is very relevant. Remember, an Amazon spokesman last month was saying we look forward to a successful relationship with the CIA. Yeah! Of course that's what I'd say. That's what i say too with that kind of money It's funny not a lot of people talk about that actual point that Amazon EC2, the Amazon Web Services kicked Wikileaks off. I'd forgotten about that actually. People only talk about the PayPal stuff but yeah Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure remember that? Yeah

2:39:44 So, which is why it's so great that we're using BitTorrent Sync. Because you know what? Even if someone shut down... If they took away my computers and cut off my cable all I'd have to do is give the one number which I've memorized That one key to anyone else who anyone in the world and then they could automatically become the seed the main seed for the no agenda show Propagation how cool is that? Back to this Washington Post story. Does anybody think that The Washington Post has not long since been compromised Yeah, that's it's funny because No one seems to understand anymore that because internet is just done

2:40:29 The Washington Post, the day they took their first advertisement was compromised. Hello? Yes of course it's compromised and no one cares about the Washington Post other than the people in Washington so it's... The whole thing is all of this stuff It's just whatever you can move finagle and get something gets some heat and get the other suckers to flow along with it And get everyone talking about it then you've got your moment Then you can push something through when you're done and we're on to the next thing Yeah Of course they are compromised And what, like Carlos Slim is not compromising the New York Times to write about telecommunications? Of course.

2:41:12 So this is a non-story. Who cares what Bezos does at the Washington Post? What we're seeing here is it's kind of like your beanie babies, this is when the journalists are starting to eat each other now they're all yelling at each other you see because essentially The Washington Post has been saved most of these things are money losing operations It's been saved for the foreseeable future. Everyone is happy, they got a job I think there are journalist unions, they have minimum wage contracts... The Guild! The Guild thank you They've got pensions and this is big deal people care about themselves first and foremost And other journalists are sick of it

2:41:54 This is gonna go back and forth, and then meanwhile the thieves are laughing stealing our money and tiptoeing away into the sunset. I have a third part to this which says WAPO Part 2. It was the perfect lead into the donation segment, which... Well the clip is longer than the donation segment! It's only 270. Washington Post isn't the only newspaper that is seeing its reputation questioned In fact, Americans are losing confidence in all newspapers As a Gallup poll found back in June Only 23% of Americans almost a new historic low have confidence in newspapers Yes according to whose poll? A newspaper poll

2:42:46 No, 23% is a low number. The newspaper polls would jack it up! Well there you go. 23%, in other words less than one in four persons have any confidence in major media I mean Gee, if that's not a lead into like how people support us a little more I don't know what is. Well yes absolutely true and we have more time... We focus on less topics perhaps because you know uh i don't know we don't have to do the Lindsay Lohan story or the Kim Kardashian story-we can if we want! We have time to do what's playing on the TV? Not for ratings

2:43:24 You know, I went through your 308 page document. No one even gave you the names they all... Even Gregg Greenwald, rah don't rap! He said, nah just White House shills he didn't even give you the name it's interesting to know who those names are and then you can then immediately understand the insight this is the kind of analysis that anyone could give you but not with the model that they're using They have to be on the high pace short hit the news at the top of the hour we got a cut off for the commercial break That's why I think that's why we've been doing it for more than six years and oh by the way, we make it look easy. So Consider what goes into it try you know? Hey Please do a show anytime give it a shot go look at people try Yeah Go look at the show notes five to be kind of yet They have a very tolerant family Oh since I'm sitting there watching like the news hour and C-Span And whatever else there is and I'm getting crazy clips

2:44:22 You know, they want to watch something. Actually they've all given up now they're all playing video games so they got their own... They all hole-up in their own... I just say you have to have a tolerant family to do this. Yes! Especially if your just studying all the time Yeah it never really stops she's always analyzing and always looking for Unfortunately always looking for the angle which sometimes there is just no angle and I think family members get tired of you always being looking for the angle. And it's just, can't you shut up and enjoy it for once? That's what I get sometimes I haven't gotten that. Well, no but from... That's for my daughter It's understandable So please support us devorak.org slash NA That is where you can it doesn't and it doesn't matter what you support us with all these all the bits and bobs help I'm always astounded by people who say they they Can't donate cannaf... like five dollars really? Really five dollars You couldn't find that

2:45:22 Okay, no it's nonsense when we have kids like the worst of First check a kid wrote he wrote to us. There's a lot of students there's you know starving artists They don't they could come up with this no excuse I mean It's always just an excuse is because you don't want to support us We just want to have a private conversation on email let me argue without him for a little while that's fun He'll do that for free But this is a moment to stop and just reflect What has happened to us, we are in a fundamental monumental change in the world and we're glossing over it because Facebook Twitter Google etc YouTube Spotify iTunes iPods iPhones what is capable? What you are a part of listening to this podcast. That is that is the true revolution that is taking place

2:46:21 Because while everyone is fighting for position, remember newspaper ads they had the classifieds. That's why newspapers ran out of money because the classified went to Craigslist and Angie's List and all these other places. And even though they were warned that was their money maker was the classified ads And they had no way to make money without being completely compromised because all the advertisers... Go look at CNET. You know, you look at CNET what are they advertising? Technology! Electronics and gadgets phones these people are compromised there's no two ways about it this is what goes they say they're not but they are

2:46:58 We are not broadcasting this on YouTube. We're not on Facebook, we're not on the Twitter network...we're not owned by anybody! We're run by you! You help us distribute the program with these brand new protocols that are disrupting life as we know it The music business is dead over and done with The movie business they're dead They have to figure it all out all over again again and it's gonna take another 10 years of this struggling and everyone yelling and fighting in legislation and eating each other up meanwhile we are just kind of kind of eking through the window of opportunity and as long as we can keep the support going I think we can keep the program in the analysis going. And that is truly something spent, just mind-blowing that is happening in your lifetime! And you're a part of it. That was good yeah thank you. That was a ten pointer

2:47:50 From the three-pointer line. But I really feel that way. Oh, and by the way... This is why the people at An Hour of Code aren't teaching Linux They aren't teaching PHP No they're teaching all the commercial crap At code dot org Thank you for the number of producers who pointed that out to me They don't want you to really realize That The network is there, the protocols are there, the software's there You can do it I think we'll go collapse now. Yes, it's time for you to get some rest my friend yes Thank you for the Sunday show coming up Yeah The big show there will be some cool stuff over You know there's always some cool stuff at the end of the week they like to throw some stuff into the pot So it gets forgotten by Monday yeah especially with Christmas coming up and Christmas is coming up someone was gonna be shopping Someone will be shopping somewhere Someone's shopping at all times always in the morning

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