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00:00 so if you want to play were really annoyed with the plane is harmonic and i'm curious john c devorah first two thousand thirteen time to get my nation media assassination episode five six seven this is no agenda cities in june the heart of amsterdam and give them a similar ones in the morning everybody's and curry and from gitmo nation Mouse ears? I'm John C. Dvorak. uh... yes i was thinking about it well i had some ideas and then i a m just kind of froze so that you the two beats boom-boom john's thinking but yeah where are you what's going on with what happened to let me put them though

01:08 I'll be in Orlando till tonight and it's and unlike your weather. This is beautiful here I got the doors open, and I'm getting a nice humid Mid Florida Breeze it's nice okay you want to divulge what you're doing there? I mean You don't add a conference that was the enterprise software operation called open text where I just hosted a couple panels that were I don't know uninspired Okay, in other words someone paid you to actually leave the house and and you did this is the amazing thing You've been known to turn around And go home on your way to the airport. I have done that yes Usually happens in the bed though sleep buzzers going off at 6. I'm going why am I getting up? It's six

02:00 I mean if somebody's paying me, I'm gonna obviously get up. But if it was some volunteer thing or something... Oh no screw volunteer work! I don't really try to refuse all these things because It's not that I don't like to do stuff for people that want stuff done. It just is always inconvenient. It's like I have to get up really early which is outside my schedule Or luckily we got this Thursday and Sunday thing going on which can't work out. Thursdays out and uh... sunday can you get a beer to do the show but no one's in awhile the as u have noticed the over the years i've recent something in vegas or someplace in which i did it look up and it seems we have a good connection here so this is my business of these until i'm i'm still in amsterdam for those who were wondering will be flying back to uh... uh... to austin tomorrow and it's kind of same thing now when when i'm over here that's like well

02:52 Yeah, I can't really do anything on Sunday night or Thursday night. Normally we start the show at 6 here, 6pm and so instead of doing my prep all day Wednesday up until like midnight or 1 on Wednesday I just get up on Thursday and go all day. You hear the car alarms? This is also... So we're two hours earlier here now, we started like a little after four instead of six so we still have construction in the street you know it's a city there's like real and as a car alarm going off very nice. I can't hear it no that's because I had the noise gate on. Anyway so it's been uh been interesting here in uh in The Lowlands of course um I was afraid it would happen and indeed it did

03:41 They had a huge celebrity filled telethon for the Philippines. The stupid Dutch, they fell for it again. Where's the money supposed to go? Well it's interesting so they have well they um... they have a uh... central collection system This kind of goes back to the way banking used to work in the Netherlands. Back in the day when I was a kid, we had... and it may still exist, you had the post office would also have free banking services available to these citizens and you would have what is known as a Giro Rekening or a gyro account g-i-r-o

04:26 So you could take your bank book to the post office, and say okay here's my book. This is my number and I want 25 guilders or whatever it was, 50 guilders, where you could go put money into your account. It was all free! The statements and everything were all mailed around the postal service, the government run postal service managed that. And you would have these little cards And so when you had to pay a bill like your electric bill or utilities, pretty much any bill that you didn't pay in cash. You would take one of these kind of computerized... it was like a punch card! In fact it WAS a punch card now that I think about it. It was a punch card

05:06 Just a standard punch card size and you'd fill in the number of the gyro account that you were sending money to, and your gyro number account. and then you put that in an envelope, no post is necessary. You send it off and the whole system would work and you'd kind of get your statement once a month or whatever That has obviously been overtaken by a proper banking system quote-unquote proper but they still have the gyro system so when they have a big telethon like this, they use the standard gyro 555 number which you can send to from your... some people I guess still have the old-fashioned accounts but you can also send it from your bank account and that's like a central clearing house.

06:00 It's that you ask this, John but it's not really clear what happens with the money after that point. Which is kind of what makes it fun! It's like they have a... there's an NGO that will attach itself to the 555 number for that particular time period and they'll disperse it And of course everyone had gone through this several years ago with Haiti and there were some questions about well how do we know the money's really going to get there and everyone all politicians and everyone was on television assuring everybody that you know they had changed things and it was all going to get to the proper organizations this time, and there would be better oversight. They have a saying here called... Are you still with me?

06:51 yeah okay just wanna make sure i wasn't doing a soliloquy here it's always funny when you're talking to someone on the phone and the phone is disconnected um... and uh... that is a saying, I'm not quite sure where stems from but what it means is when someone's playing the violin and your using your bow on the violin like sometimes if you really push the bow all the way it might catch couple of Couple of bank notes and you'd pull it back and then you could like click slip it into your pocket I'm not sure where that saying comes from. Wow, that's a weird one. I should have probably looked at one up I have no idea where that comes from but it must've been from beggars in some day they used to play the violin on the street and people would Attach money to the end of the bow. Um, I'm gonna look it up right now because I should have figured that one out Let me see under strikes or bly for hunger let me see See where it comes from

07:45 Of course I'm translating this on the fly. I'm going to have to look into this, but anyway it means that money is being kind of dropped off... anything that drops onto the floor God can keep essentially And so they did the whole thing, man. They had all the public broadcasters, the commercial broadcasters... Everything all doing a common broadcast and they had the celebrities manning the phones and they had poor people and then of course the Filipino community dropped by and cooked food for the celebrity phone bank operators

08:33 I was just like, wow do people never learn anything? And one of our well-known singers here, Trankje Oosterhuis she had put on Facebook. I will donate a euro for every like that i get! She's buying likes... She got 200 000 likes Oh yeah now what is she gonna do? Well and this is the funny thing because she got a total pass And all the TV shows and the news, I was like oh man you know this is uh no of course she doesn't have to pay for that. You know i'm sure she really didn't mean it that way she didn't expect her campaign to be so incredibly popular but she will be giving royally she promised us. Let me tell you something if I had done that I'd have the fucking cops outside the house saying where's the money curry?

09:27 You know, these other celebrities they get a pass on this stuff. That was pretty unbelievable That's just sleazy. Yeah, and everyone is there like some other celebrities were serving beer at a well-known bar and the proceeds would go to the gyro 555. Everyone is in it for themselves and no one will admit but they're all in it just for their own popularity Oh, and look I'm going to auction off the first pink ruby studded jacket that i wore in my video clip in 1991. Please! So insulting It's like people care about the people of the Philippines Not at all. I am not buying it But there you go 18 150 000 euros

10:18 So pretty much a year over. Makes them feel better. Yeah, well there's that... It goes right near the coffers of the Red Cross Well, a lot of it does but unfortunately no one ever talks about the reality of what is really going on First off this was not the worst storm ever nor the most people killed during a typhoon in the Philippines in this region This is nothing new I guess because we have video of it what we barely have video of the storm itself in fact uh... we don't know that much video of the storm this kind of interesting we do a lot of overhead x helicopter shots at the ranch to areas and then we also have the same ones from the uh... that crazy um... weirdness storm that uh... he did the tornadoes which

11:07 And I don't want to sound like, you know because I'm not buying into a lot of the weather modification stuff. But I do have a clip which brings up a couple of interesting points about these tornadoes that ravaged Illinois last week. Do you want to come back to the Philippines? No, why don't you finish the Philippines and then we'll go on with this because I find it peculiar even though it hasn't been blen- The weird thing about the latest thing is that I haven't heard enough global warming. We'll transition into that because of course

11:43 the Philippines is a part of the global warming meme, but you have to know and I remember we have the 27 billion dollar aircraft carrier that George Washington sitting there. We now have... And this is what I'm pretty much convinced it's all about is just the strategic location of military assets Japan is sending its definitely going on is definitely going to have japan sending itself defense forces which is and believe that's uh... and his four thousand troops Japan. It's like getting pretty transparent guys, Australia has a ship they've sent over let's see we have another the Chinese of course they're like oh hold on a second so they're deploying their relief ship because this is all happening in the in the Sea of China and when you look at some of this relief I mean it's if the whole thing is really quite despicable particularly when you note that

12:43 a lot of the packages that have arrived have been unpacked and then repackaged by the local Filipino government officials so that it says, you know... what is the guy's name? like the Minister of Internal Affairs, he was repackaged with his name on it and his ministry on it. So its taking a couple days extra so they can repackage the reliefs as a political win for the internal government. The whole thing is obviously if it wasn't a scam to start off with

13:22 started it and whatever is motivating it, uh... It certainly has been misused to a great degree. And again in the show notes I have a couple links to many other storms going back to the seventies which and this is the interesting thing I think was nineteen... let me see here I believe it was 1970 there was a huge typhoon in the exact same region and guess what it was blamed on? Well if it was in the 70's they may blame it on global cooling. That is exactly right!

14:02 the exact same region a huge typhoon blamed on global cooling in nineteen seventy oh how quickly we forget and of course there's your media not reminding you not helping you out at all uh... the only thing that he has things have the only thing that is obviously happening is this being misused for uh... for global warming purposes i'm seeing that other political cartoons pop up everywhere it's already being talked about in at the COP19 and we can talk about that or we can go into your Illinois clip now which it does seem kind of coincidental if you read

14:43 uh... state of fear on michael crichton you'll know that you know these kind of things and it's it's it's kinda fun when they coincidentally happen when you have a big climate conference where a lot of people are saying they need a lot of money in compensation for all the horrible c l two this killing the people in the poor third world countries anything to do so the american taxpayer because then chinese indians are playing ball and so it's all in our court which is kind of interesting. Yeah, these were weird stories... just play this and then tell me what you think because I think and i don't normally go in this direction it's as if there was a cloud seeding experiment gone wrong or something because there are a couple of factoids here which Glenn Ifill is discussing with the climatologist from Oklahoma State

15:38 And he's talking about these anomalies and then she is obviously paying no attention because at the end, I cut it off. She asks the question that he answers right in the beginning. How unusual was it to see a wave of storms like this? Well, it's very unusual to see a wave of storms like this at this time of year. This is something that we expect might happen in March or April but it's extremely unusual to have such a widespread outbreak in the Midwest in November. the unusual features here. When was the time of day when these tornadoes struck? We're kind of used to hearing about late afternoon warnings that come, touchdowns of tornadoes but not an early morning one

16:27 Yes, this was extremely unusual. I believe the storms began around nine o'clock in the morning and usually we need to get the sun's heating during a day to get the storms going but in this case A very very powerful storm system came through that lifted the air Very very early and we didn't need to get to be very warm for the storms to be triggered How about the time of year? We just heard them What a douche! I know she asked this question that he answered right off the bat. So she's pink, so I could have played that whole thing but... She obviously had to say it again It was November instead of April But she is obviously not listening

17:11 So I just thought this is the problem with all, this is the problem with most certainly with most interviews but I would say with most conversations in general even when people aren't broadcasting they're not listening. All people wait for us for when it's my time to talk? I want to talk! When is it my turn to talk?! Am I going yet? Is it me now? Is it me? Is it me? Yeah that's uh well that's very sad when people are paid lots of money to do that as I'm sure she is uh... so what do you think i was a i wasn't amused by the uh... it takes place in november which is screwy and then there was that morning it would this never happens in the marine these were whoppers they weren't there's no fives he said but there are a lot of floors and they can ripped up a bunch of places that are never normally hit and i'd just thought the whole thing with slightly fishy even though i'm not uh... of that mindset yeah

18:04 but since you weren't in town to get this, someone has to do it. Harp! Weather modification. Well I'm glad i'm over here because there are a lot of interesting things happening and although its not really hitting super mainstream uh... there was a report here in one of the main Dutch newspapers about a dutch climatologist who just published a report in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, that's PNAS. He said PNAS! Yeah? pnas dot org I lost you. Do you hear me? Did you lose me?! Uh...I think they have a loose connection on this speaker. Hello? I'm broadcasting at ya. One two one two Can you hear me? I'm good You're good? Yeah Okay Sorry So you heard about the PNAS

19:03 No, I don't know anything about the P-N... I have no nothing about the P-N-A-S. Alright so there was a Dutch climatologist who published a study in the proceedings of The National Academy of Sciences on their website, thepeanass.org and it was put and there was a report about it in the Dutch press here, the report done by Siebren Drijfhout. I love those dutch names last name Drijfhout means driftwood And the title of it is Spontaneous Abrupt Climate Change Due to Atmospheric Blocking Sea-Ice Ocean Feedback in an Unforced Climate Model Simulation.

19:42 And that doesn't mean a lot until you get into it, and this is what luckily had been published here. And his models... So he's part of the big overall IPCC and this is all peer-reviewed The models that he is using—and we know the big problem with governmental reports has been their models have been off His model are showing quite severe and quite lengthy cooling But like mini ice age Yeah. This was first developed, these were the theories developed in the 70s and there's a number of people... There have been some reviews of this and there has been a number of people that were involved in it. There is a funny thing about global cooling stuff from the 70s. The people switched over to warming and half of them stayed with cooling and they have not changed their attitude that we are going to have mini ice age which is going to be a huge disaster

20:38 under whatever circumstance so I suppose this guy except if you live in Austin it's going to be quite nice actually. It is going to be fantastic It takes a while for these things to unfold. So what else did he say in the... I don't have my bell because i've said so, so many times now. That's all right, I got a bell for you. Essentially it says looks like around 2030 is when the ice age will start and could last until well into 2070 and it could actually be quite cold

21:17 And let's see, he is saying that the last... I'm also translating some of this on the fly. The last little ice age we had was between 1300 and 1850 which gave us really horrible winters but nice and cool summers. As I said Austin will be pretty nice when this does kick in if it does but it's just kind of interesting to see how these are these things are starting to show up um, In these journals and by the way what is peer-reviewed? I mean, I understand what its what it says But doesn't that mean that's like a big circle jerk and I mean should it be reviewed by non peers or Or it's some other way. This whole thing that it's like whenever someone says now I It's not true. It essentially refers to having the paper out

22:08 for review by other experts who can go through the data before it's published go through the data and find flaws, and say this 2 plus two is not 5.1 sort of thing or say the spreadsheet formula was wrong because there's a bunch you know this is kind of like peer review is what devolved into these Trekkies The guys who said oh that badge on your costume is over an inch too far the Federation would never put a badge there Wait wait wait You're not telling me that climatologists' peer review system

22:44 is a derivative of the star trek conventions no no it's its node did this start trick dimensions devote all over your view i get and i guess my thesis so that i got it in his fight school inside well i see the microphone insure inframe fifty six of this shot number ten right you know i can those guys now well uh... okay could be I just get a little tired of hearing it, that's all. What? Peer review? No! It's fact, it's peer reviewed and you know... It's like you and me could peer review stuff together. You're not a peer. Okay. But you could become one if went over these things took one of these papers and then said oh and as you found all these mistakes and then you presented the mistake to the group

23:43 And anyone said, well this guy's right. I've never heard of him! Who is this Adam Curry fellow? I don't know. Let's send him more stuff to do. It ends up being a nightmare but yeah you have to be peer-reviewed So while all this is going down we have these reports coming out Of course we have COP 19 in full swing and lo and behold it turns out that everybody's in it for the money who knew And is there a walkout or something? Yeah, I went to bed. You had a clip you have a clip. Um, i'm trying to throw it right to you my friend I don't know that I have a clip of the walk out um, i'm pretty sure I saw

24:21 A walkout clip? Maybe I misread it, maybe it was just wishful thinking. I think its wishful thinking because just as I was going to bed they were reporting the walk out. Okay so I don't have a clip of it but 133 countries Was it countries or delegates? Hold on, let me double check this. 133 countries walk out of UN climate meeting over global warming compensation argument. The G77 plus China group of 133 countries walked out of the United Nations climate change conference in Warsaw on the loss and damage mechanism after developed nations refused to agree to terms. And as you read through the reports, essentially what these countries wanted is an automatic compensation mechanism

25:18 that if they have a storm or something, some horrible event that they automatically get money sent to them. This is insane! What are we trying to do here? It's hilarious. And it's actually beyond insane and hilarious...it's disgusting So it really turns out this is just all about a bunch of poor countries let me just put it that way who want to soak us Yeah, and it's all this total I thought that from the first time. I saw one of these conferences when Amy Goodman was there and all she ended up talking to people from Micronesia or somebody from some island in the middle of nowhere It said and they're all bitching and moaning about how we screwed up the world And they owe them money get with that man for them to be so blatant about it. I was like what? So here's the new term climate finance

26:12 This is the word you've got to look out for. According to a report by the World Resource Institute, developed nations have spent $35 billion in international climate finance through the fast start finance period between 2010-2012 exceeding the initial target of 30 billion Just listen to this. Five countries, Germany Japan Norway Britain and the United States gave a combined sum of 27 billion dollars Adaptation funding received 5 billion while mitigating received 22 point 1 billion And so these 133 countries they went well that's not good enough You know we don't care how you guys do it but just got to make sure that we get money for extreme weather Wow

27:04 And why is not everyone up in arms about this? We are. Yeah, we're pretty tiny in this regard. Many people cares about what we think. So I'm reading from the Guardian now U.S fears climate talks will... so actually here's a report from the 13th where it was kind of set up in The Guardian that US climate officials were afraid that the talks would break down to this very point, the focus would be on compensation for extreme weather. Boom! Then we get the Philippines, you know... The whole thing happening, the typhoon

27:44 And all of this money, I guess the president said that we've spent or we sent 32... it wasn't 33 I would remember but it was in the 30 million dollar range. Which is bogative because every day that the USS George Washington is sitting there with 5 thousand men and a 27 billion dollar write off That's got to be 1 million bucks a day at least if not more So this is, you know... Everyone's misusing this thing for a whole bunch of reasons but the climate change thing it's just nuts. Yeah it's true Meanwhile the reports here in the lowlands It's kind of good to be here to get the vibe about stuff and of course me being here I'm getting for some reason Dutch people send me more email than usual

28:39 And they're sending me all kinds of... Because he's nearby. Yeah, he's close. It'll get you faster! He's close. They send me all these things about Fukushima and here is a report I got and this is a report that might even have been in Forbes let me see it This is The Ecologist theecologist.org Is that a real publication? The Ecologist Well, they must have gotten that. That's a great URL so they must have got it early on. Sounds pretty legit and we should look into it here it is Fukushima fallout damaged thyroid glands of California babies

29:16 Oh bullcrap, the ecologist is a fraud. You'll love the wording! A new study finds that radioactive iodine from Fukushima has caused a significant increase in hypothyroidism amongst babies in California 5,000 miles across the Pacific Ocean and this article will be published next week so I couldn't review it for you but it's in the peer-reviewed journal The Open Journal of Pediatrics. congenital hypothyroidism is a rare but serious condition normally affecting about one child in 2000 and one that demands clinical intervention. So if you read through this article, they say that they studied the whole bunch of babies born before during and after the Fukushima malfunction of the reactor and that they can show there was a 21% increase in babies

30:16 that have hyperthyroidism and they're claiming this is because of the Fukushima radiation cloud. And, you know I can't wait to see the report and i'm not quite sure exactly what the Journal of... These are all good names by the way. The Open Journal of Pediatrics? Take a look at what a subscription to these things costs! Let's take a look. Well the Open Journal of Pediatrics could be like it could be like the Palm OS of pediatrics. I don't know where they're when in what is this. We must have a pediatrician on that as a list

30:51 Oh yeah, sure we do. But you'll find the subscriptions like thousands of dollars an issue it's these things are somewhat built for papers for publishing papers yes you know you publish almost like you know the who is who books Would you like to be in the who's who of the West? I was invited to who's who over the West, Who's Who in business. Also the marquee who is who, the big one and it's always the same You can get your name in there with a whose-who listing And then part of the deal as you buy a book Oh yeah no of course so yeah have to buy the book well I'm looking here

31:29 Open Journal of Pediatrics, and it doesn't it doesn't really look like they have a website. It looks like it is actually a journal Yeah, yeah, they can put the stuff on the web People might read it well seems like you can download it let me say publish special issues sponsors associates and links that's always my favorite but when it comes out I'll take a look at it and all go through it but we don't even have these kinds of numbers for Chernobyl there is nothing like that. Yeah, 5000 miles away is pretty unlikely so they got a lot of numbers lots lots of stuff, lots of facts and of course this was published by the European Committee on Radiation Risk

32:22 My god, there's so many NGOs. You're at dcom dot org? We have to do an NGO because it is the only way to go I don't want to mention the name because... Okay, so there is a guy that I know from television from a long time ago and I hook up again with him in Austin And he actually kind of well known as a writer producer He was a writer on TV show I was on and he has also been in some pretty big serial stuff recently as an actor But you know, he's not swimming in dough. Let's put it that way. He is an actor and does bit parts... He gets by. Yeah, he is getting by exactly. He lives in Austin enough said! I meet him through some of our other friends and actually some of the wealthier O-Bots

33:13 and they've been talking about him and this project he was doing which involves kids in Kenya. I can't even say specifically what, we bought a table for the big dinner and you guys have to come here so... And i go looking at me like okay those dinners where you buy tables for your friends yeah for ten grand or whatever. Ten grand you get a table? You receive six. Nine! There's always one odd person out. He told me, he was like I'm gonna go look at the form 990 and see what this is about and you know it's like oh they got revenue so that they raised $350,000 his wife runs it she gets paid a salary of 71 he's a paid advisor

34:03 to make the videos that are made for the site and he gets $50,000 then there's $30,000 in rent which although I don't know probably is a portion going to their home wherever they're running it. Part of the home business? Yeah so there's like you know half of the money is to keep these people running and I'm like that's messed up! I don't like that You know, it's just like this is just a scam to me. I mean i'm sure its well meant and everything and I know that they're really doing the work but... Really kids in Kenya? Have you seen the money thats being poured into Kenya by the United States State Department, by the Chinese? It's not like Kenyans.. Its not all just kids with flies and pot bellies hanging around here there some money flowing in there

34:46 And so whatever's left of the 350 grand, you know... What about the kids in Austin? Thank you! Or anywhere in the United States. That's what I was thinking is like, I'd like to help a little more locally and you know at Mesa, well I know people go, oh you're dickhead how do we want to help people?! Well yeah, I want to help people that can actually... it's that guy again It's the same guy who comes out whenever someone hates me. I must have told it, I think i've told this story like three or four years ago and ill tell it again... Im in London and there was some beggar on the street and I gave him a pound note I believe And some guy in a lorry which is London for huge truck stops the truck In the middle of the street and starts screaming at me

35:35 for giving this guy a pound because he says people are full of shit you shouldn't be giving him money, he says it's ruining the country for guys like you and he just yelling at me I'm thinking Jesus is terrible what is the problem there? I don't know. It was kind of befuddling well no and I think to a certain degree the guy might have been right depending on It's kind of like the squeegee guys that we used to have when you drove by the Lincoln Tunnel. You didn't want them to touch your windshield because they mucked it up? Yeah, this is... It was extortion! Yes, of course it was-it's all extortion. Yeah, it was extortion but but it's my business not the truck drivers' Right, but you know you're just some tourist and you were coming here over here and ruining everything

36:20 We can't have that. Apparently, that's what does go on in India. I haven't been to India this is one of the places i've never been. I always wanted to go but less and less likely to go and less and less wanting to go over time. Mickey's gone she says she'll never go back again. I've heard that from a number people He said it's really in some of the towns you walk out of the your taxi or you walk off The train, whatever it is and a million beggars. Yeah, people with one leg and one eye They're all miserable looking at they're all in rags And they're all just kind of things wrapped around them and nuts hanging out and they all hold like beat-up old cops Or you've seen these pictures? Yes, of course that's one of the reasons I'll never go

37:06 And they all come up to you. I have pre-guilt. You're obviously rich! Yeah, of course. This is not right... No, I have pre guilt going there. I could never go it's horrible By the way the spreadsheet came in Oh? Good old Eric Alrighty, nice. Well although I don't know if we'd be that happy... Quick glance at the spreadsheet! It happens when we travel, we never do well. No yeah you're right oh well anyway so no Mickey was telling me that they would have you know something like a million kids and they take one kid and the kids like open sores and stuff and just throw them on the side of the road with a bucket in a sign and just wait it's horrible

37:54 It's horrible. It's not exactly the same thing as what we're talking about here, but... But anyway, just the NGO thing and in America in recent time because they also get I saw that you know They get money from three or four different NGOs And those NGOs at the end of the day all the NGO money comes from the taxpayer It's going to the really big NGOs like you know. The was it the Robin Hood foundation remember they did the Hurricane Sandy? I'm sorry super storm sandy benefit show and we looked at it. They distribute everything to all these little tiny NGOs all around the country, they also put a whole bunch of... because it's run by bankers they put a whole bunch of derivatives and other stuff on I'm sure they make money on it you know because that's what those guys do anyway is just putting in vehicles they know will make money And the whole thing trickles down as keeping all these people kind of working

38:51 Is it important? Do we have a culture of philanthropy?" Yeah, we do have a culture of philanthropy in America. But I think its gone too far and I just see too many people with their little non-profits like Dell has this to. I see it in Austin. People say, oh can you come and do this thing? It's for the Dell Foundation. What is your involvement? We'll have an NGO nonprofit and we'd do the organization of the artists." So basically your booker but you're not paying taxes You know, it's like...it makes me angry. Booker this is what they are their booker, but they just you know and they're booked and their specialty is getting people to work for free Yes So Dell can get a bigger tax You know that over in decision you get a big tax write-off on your dime exactly so it's a by the way No But if the problem as you can't it's hard to like you. You know instead let's say like no I'm from no no It's gotten really he's gotten easy for me. I just say no. I don't believe in what you're doing I like you as a guy but now

39:49 I'm just saying it, i don't care. What do...I can't be..i can't fake anymore and by the way this is this is the... I got this virus from you! what? I got this virus from you! what virus? This just being straightforward and honesty thing oh well no as a disease yes yes it's very contagious Well, you say... but I like the wording. I don't believe in what you're doing! I haven't used that. You should try it! That's sexy quite-quite... because your other one was no What was the other one? No, no, no. Somebody says... It depends. Do you want to uh... Oh, I hate children! DJ do you wanna help children? No, I hate children Just whatever it is just I hate it

40:38 Yeah. I don't believe in what you're doing is much softer. I could use that myself. Well, you should give it a wing! Although I don't... You know, I tend to... I'm trying to think when I... I tend to be one of those chicken shit types. Just an avoider aren't you? Yeah, it's like I go around the block. I need my exercise So take a block route around some guy looks to go by him or go buy the guy Hey, I need some money Oh, I'm gonna go get a pizza and I'll be right back with I'll have some change No change that's one

41:16 really should i mean i admit it and i mean i i'd need to be more like you know even though you say you got for me i think they do more of these the ways u you handle it actually aren't too proud of him yahoo especially that last one like a believe in what your doing hard to say that this is the bomb but i don't believe what you're doing so it was out at the other one is did they do both chris it bothers me when somebody comes up to me at a gas station which is not on your own yeah that happens and i'm playing with the credit card again broke okay right but you know i don't believe what you're doing all these guys are all over the place in their uh... just so i don't know if it's because i think it's a dishonesty of it if they were upfront and said here's what we're doing we're trying to

42:03 do some good here and we need to make a living doing it. It's kind of like our show, we need to make a living doing this so were asking for help from anywhere where can so that we can afford to continue this work I'd be a little more amenable to that than this kind of a scam-ish... Exactly. You know, you're just..I don't even know how they do it but i think an NGO is probably a real money maker Oh well its a lifestyle John not just a money maker look at who's the pink ladies what are they called? The one Mina is her name

42:41 crazy lady who's always standing up and the pink slip people not the pink slip go to think that goes the pink ladies that was greece actually i'm sorry i have a little confused yet no it would be increasing their with i said things that because that's how it began code pink was originally to give george bush right-wing slip your honor you're right here at so uh... the kind of crazy by the way in To me, in a very perverted way I think she's kind of hot. I'm not quite sure why... That old woman? Nahh, she's not old! She's not old What's old?! You're old! She's not old! She's older than ME Nooo, NO! She is NOT older than you! She's like mid-fifties maybe

43:29 Let's take a look. Code Pink, what's her name? Mina. Isn't her name Mina something or other? She actually had a big code pink operation. She changed her name I know that for some reason. Mina Benjamin there you go. Mina? I think it's Mina uh let's see Medea. All right Mina Medea she is age 61 so she's a little bit younger than you but she right now i'm looking at her again and she's not hot Yeah, I know what you're thinking. Well, I don't know Sometimes before we go to specially I should mention something I think somebody at Russia I find this hotel for some reason they have the Russia Today Network rather than just a couple of shows They have the whole network yeah And they've got this new woman who does that show called boom or bust and she used to she just said She's just got a weird background but she is

44:25 exactly she's pretty close to what we as the consulting group the the curry dvorak uh... consulting group would have picked this woman's name is aaron which is about since last name is eighty e well okay i don't know if you wish he has a beat jesus Here's the view I'd give you the run that we're gonna do just for a moment. We're gonna do our little TV producer douchebag Discussion yes, it's a big hit with the ladies by the way this this segment on the show and what works really well Okay What's her name again? Her name is Erin ERI nade so she comes on any here's the way I see it For one thing she has got world-class legs Yes She does and she shows she shows them off mm-hmm

45:12 She gets in a stool, sits awkwardly so her entire legs are... one of them is crossed over and the other one's down on the floor and she has high heels. You know what I like about her? Is that she has too many teeth for the size of her mouth. She has a huge, HUGE... if you put their number 1 smile maxed out Every tooth in her mouth. But that's, but that as long as we keep her smiling We need you know like you know with the horses they put ginger in their butt to make the tail stay up in a horse show So when he defined it with this You don't know about that? No Yeah! In a horse show When the horses are on parade They put a little bit of ginger in there butt so their tail will always stay out You know have the tail up so we need the equivalent of that for her mouth

46:00 I'm looking at a picture here on the Google Images where she's not smiling and it looks really goofy. Yeah, no she's not as good looking but with the big monster smile. Monster smile! It's almost freakishly big. Seriously attractive in some funny way She needs big hair though if the hair is flat it doesn't work she needs big hair He has different hairdos I've seen two or three hairdos for her because they have some promos of hers and i think they're working with he Now here's the problem I have. Uh oh! I think they got the right idea but, I watch her do her show now i realize that Abby Martin and this woman both there is a same coach involved. Oh she can't read

46:49 Well, besides the reading. Her reading is not good but it's acceptable because she's kind of attractive but I'm talking about the coaching if you watch Abby Martin her head is bobbing all over the place and arms are waving around and she trying to walk on these crazy steps that she can barely handle high heels staggering around this set with their head bobbing in our arms wavin' This girl does... when I first saw her said this is a clone of Abbey Martin Same thing waving her arms and staggering around on the set like she's about to fall over you're worried sick that she's gonna land on her ass it the whole thing and I'm thinking this has got to be a common

47:29 a common coach. There's somebody at that network that is teaching these girls how to handle themselves and they're teaching them wrong. And that person needs to be fired, I'm looking... That person needs to be fired! I just found on YouTube a video she uploaded which looks like her real it has our contact info here and mobile number and guess she was in ESPN Star Sports reporter based in Singapore It even has her apartment number in Singapore. Let's see if there is some video on this thing. Can you tell me a little bit about this engine? You're going to have to keep watching it find out! Oh, she did racing segments. Oh man! Yes, just motorcycle riding. Oh cool! She does extreme sports stuff John Yeah well if you look at her wiki page she worked for some crappy

48:18 local network that some turkish station in schenectady or something like that and i think somebody grabbed her and said hey wait a minute we could... And this by the way is what we are excellent at, it's finding these women on little you know little rinky dink stations and turning them into superstars actually. I'll tell ya that we could do better job with both these women than then the coach thats got these women staggering around the stage! Alright let's move on come one because we could talk about that for the whole show which is the sad part of it unfortunately but anyway so you have to keep an eye out for her she's gonna go places well as we do this bi-continental show and we're both on remote and I'm here in the airbnb in amsterdam and your in the hotel in florida. I think it is time to say, In The Morning To You John C. Dvorak And In The Morning To You Adam Curry, In The Morning All Ships and Seaboots On The Ground Feet In The Air Subs In The Water and all the dames and knights are out there yes and uh... and then in the morning too our

49:20 human resources in the chat room who at this point also are able to listen to the stream. So thanks for our team for getting that up and running as we're a couple hours earlier than typical, for a show time and of course thank all of you for your courage and thank you to our artists who are always working hard bringing us the artwork at no agenda artgenerator dot com Martin JJ gave us the arts on the previous episode 566 and today is of course we forgot to mention it 567 which would have been an excellent donating opportunity. And we as typical, we forgot to mention it. We never thought about that! It's not like we forgot anything

50:02 We didn't think of it. 567 is a great number for the numerologists out there who like to donate certain kinds of crazy numbers, 568-569-56570? There's nothing again forever but we do have a few people including Sir Anthony Montgomery If that is indeed his last name, as I have to stretch. But I'm on a little laptop so you have to correct my mistakes. Well i'm also on two laptops and one is running the show and the other is smaller and it's running the spreadsheet. So yeah Anthony Sir Anthony Montgomery Right in Westfield Indiana 5 And he did come up with... He came up with the idea of his own Yeah 567 He has been waiting for it! Yes yes there ya go

50:53 Typical that people are smarter than we are. Yeah, well it seems to be the case generally speaking as a little note here I was knighted last Thanksgiving and have not donated since so this is a catch up catch me up so to speak i'm also answering the call for support and the call for kale recipes. I strongly dislike kale, but i do occasionally eat it because my lovely wife makes it truly delicious. Oh okay! So she has a recipe for the Tuscan potato soup being an engineer I was interested in the chemistry required to make kale taste so good The short answer is that kale contains many healthy but foul tasting compounds mostly sulfurous

51:36 Some of these are water soluble and some are fat soluble. Her recipe for Tuscan potato soup includes cream, spinach, spicy Italian sausage and of course potatoes and kale the combination of fats and starches causes the kale to absorb the fats from the cream and sausage also they give up its fouler flavors sounds exactly like what it is, it's foul yeah everything blends together in a wonderful way he says there was no room to share the full recipe you can send it to me at johnatthepark.org but there are very many variations of Tuscan potato soup by the way the Tuscan

52:14 Kale, which is also called dinosaur kale or black kale is not as bad as the other kales And that's where we're headed right? We're headed towards the Tuscan black stuff. Is that isn't that what yeah That seems to be the goal here on they play the kale producers anyway some this is funny He says some versions claim that it's optimal but trust me It isn't some recipes even encourage you to discard the kale after its been fat I think you're supposed to give it to the cows at you're supposed to give it to the cows and This is heresy, that's the best part I believe. It is the only way to make kale taste good and it's worth it Thank you for the best podcast in universe and blessings to you all. And thank you so much sir Anthony for not just supporting this show but doing it with such a... well of course you'll not only be executive producer but also the sole member of The 567 Club

53:09 And it's highly appreciated. On the kale tip for a minute, John? You know what's big here? Quinoa! Yeah, there was a big... There was a good thing on PBS the other day about quinoa. Apparently quinoa is... You know what it is, everything most people do. Quinoa's kind of a grain that is from South America I believe Peru maybe or Colombia or someplace Ecuador and quinoa has become like some sort of superfood It's like a full craft food Superfood! It is, there it is Squirrels! So, Kanoa... here's the problem is apparently it's a sustenance

53:49 product for the indigenous people yes and we're stealing it all i don't know the exact same report they had the same reply here in the netherlands so this is a set up its apply to wheat people are there aren't people to stop us from using canola no actually the report here because they knew that went down to south america may show you know the uh... over starving because of all the rich white people who are eating our canoe and the, uh... and we have to plant more so we're gonna have to raise the price. It was all about gouging the customer. Oh gouge okay that makes sense. That was a gouge yeah easy one there is a funny story that Buzzkill Jr told me apparently canola they've been trying to popularize it now one of the problems with its its little ball shape product with a hard shell on the outside

54:42 and the hard shell is a pain in the ass. If you don't do it just right, then the hard shell stays on... It hurts and stuff like that. So they so the geneticists decided to breed a batch of Kanoa without the hard shell. GM? Yeah they're gonna do it GM version with or even there's no there was a fast way to do it so they had this huge test field supposedly of the shell-less Kanoa And as soon as the stuff got to the point where it was ripe and could be picked, millions of birds descended on that field and wiped it out. There wasn't one grain left. Apparently the hard shell is to keep birds from just devouring this stuff

55:26 so another another misplay by the uh... and is a pronounced can you know or is it keen while it's evidence act pronounced to nobody may be king walk but that sounds kind of weird yes do you get a note from sir lorry at june till i in helsinki finland well i i have three thirty three thirty-three i have a note on the spreadsheet Oh, there's a thing. Adam and John greeting from Finland the Nordic country east of Scandinavia of the Scandinavian Peninsula This is weird I don't have anything here it's just a big blank If i can click on something maybe that way the spreadsheets operate this donation is a birthday gift to myself and now Sir Luria he's friends with Sir Luke Wonderhelm

56:13 So these are like the only two people in Finland. They do meetups, which I think basically... Honey! I'm just... Exactly honey, I got a no agenda meet up and then they're out there drinking beer. The two of them. So birthday gift to myself for tomorrow November 22nd turning 33 Turning 33 on 11 22 there must be something special about it therefore I'm celebrating but with a donation to the best podcast in universe this 333 33 donation is also a triple making it rain donation. I'd like John to call onto the stage write these down, John. Hold on one second, I got this sheet here We have to have a separate admin for the club

57:00 for the make it rain club we should just call the club rain now who is he want Sophie Sophia kept with her on stage one yes pearl pearl I think you know to the champagne room I got the thing written okay all right said and do that and here's a name we haven't had in the club for awhile because she smoking hot her name is Matilda Matilda. As Thanksgiving approaches, I'm thankful for the podcast you do. You cover news and events that others ignore or don't dare to touch yes like calling out non-profits and NGOs and do it with great analysis AND humor! We do try

57:48 Please give a round of karma to everybody, especially fellow knights and dames. Take care Sir Laurie Black Knight aka the greatest guy ever as proclaimed by the greatest shill ever on no agenda 464 so uh of course we are more than happy to hit you with some karma there You've got karma Good sir And thank you for your courage Okay, now I'm trying to get this thing to read out right. Those are our two executive producers and then we have some one two three associate executive producers for the show yeah including

58:27 Oh, this thing. You know it's funny because besides his laptop being too small to deal with his wide column and it's not word wrapping I'm using LibreOffice which is actually what Eric ships it in. Now I'm using Open Office and works okay. Here we go John and Al... hold on Bernard Glynn, $281 from Blairmont New South Wales Australia. John and Adam I'm a new pre-knight and short term noob who was put into your show or put onto your show by my skeptical older brother Tony who to my knowledge has not yet contributed. Douchebag! I am now hooked on No Agenda he didn't call out for a douche bag. No it slipped

59:19 I'm now hooked on Noah Jenna and after having finally caught up with some back issues, now feel there's nothing to do but to join the associate executive producers of The Best Podcast in the Universe. I've Freddie the Firewall would be so kind as to open up Port 81 which according to the book of knowledge is Tor Park Onion routing port I'd be much obliged as i want to see how do I route an onion into a computer. Yeah, I guess you wouldn't be able too. The $200 is for your great work and the $81 is for Freddy

59:57 O.M. Jew I hope my wife does not question this donation but in case she does can i get an initial de-douching for me and my brother Tony? And a MILF shout out to assuage her anger Absolutely You've been de-douched MILF That's one mother I like Hey kids! It's Freddy the Vileport 81 Michael first name only in Sherwood Arkansas saw $222.20 see what he's got to say use my first name only Michael a double making it rain no you make it rains who's the call on the stage but I want to hear this stock market sound by said Adam mixed also credit 111 of this and my boy David who needs to be deduced as well is

1:00:58 as, um... A.K.A John Conrad Let me do the deducing first so we can figure out the next part of it You've been DEDUCED What is these stock soundbites? What is he talking about? Stock soundbites? Stock soundbites... cattle? Mmmmm... Stock market? That's what I'm thinking... stock market? Hmmmmm.... I don't know He's gonna have to be more specific We'll have to do it next time Yeah Okay Alright, let me slide this spreadsheet back over to Anonymous in Lost Wages Nevada. And what do we got here? Geez! This is a nightmare... These laptops are- I can't imagine people doing this on uh... That people actually use those to work?! No that people actually just say screw laptop lets get a pad! It's gotta be worse. I can't spread this out you have to read it. Okay ummm....I'll spread it for ya Johnny boy no worries

1:02:02 Anonymous use my... flu shot coercion in the Las Vegas hospitals. The health care workers are being forced to get a flu shot But what happens if you choose not to get a flu shot? Well, you have to wear surgical mask at work until March. You look like an idiot and are uncomfortable as hell for your entire shift Who paid off the hospital administrators to implement this please deed please douchebag the flu-shot Nazis I got a lot of email about this And i think it stemmed from the

1:02:40 the medical sales guys and gals, and there's something about... Oh come on. Of course! No but I mean they were forced to do it first because they were going from hospital to hospital to hospital and they were like carrying germs and there was something to it. I can't quite exactly remember what it was but that does give me an opportunity to play this little ad Which I picked up, uh from the new campaign which is now being rolled out nationwide brought to you by the people who make the vaccines. Uh... You don't want to be a flugitive John because if your are a FLUGITIVE! Do you call your biceps thunder and lightning? Are you under the impression that someone as physically bodacious as yourself is impervious to getting sick? Have you ever done parkour?

1:03:37 Then you just might be Flu-gitive number 4, the fitness fanatic. This gym rat thinks he's invincible but today he is about to have his preconceived ideas challenged thanks to FluZone Interdermal Vaccine and its next generation device that quickly helps deliver protection against the flu just under the skin surface And by the way this is not a goof! This is real...and they have 10 of them They have all these different characters. So this is the guy who thinks he's so buff in the gym that he doesn't need a flu shot, so he's Flugitive number four! Flugitive? Yeah yeah it was a whole big campaign Talking about crazy words...so I'm at this event which is for Enterprise guys and I always look.. It's all buzzwords EIM CRM BRG BPS What's a BRG? A Big Red Gun Okay

1:04:34 so somebody said actually deep strip put a slide up and they actually use this new invention invented where which i get because it's just as good like one of your ron bloom once uh... uh... that's not an architecture it's a market wow market action well i think dick charles was he selling to do something about content management stuff markitecture in by the way is the big Is the big Salesforce thing going on in San Francisco? Was that last week? No, I think it was. I think he just ended but yeah there's a there was a big salesforce thing going on Those words are so beautiful the words they use. Apparently what's his name? The guy who runs that company whose name is Benny Hoffman He doesn't even go to work anymore and somebody told me most of his time is now spent at his new residence Of course he wants to get out of California with all this money

1:05:32 Maui. So he commutes from Maui, right? Oh yeah. I commute from Maui with the jet me and Pierre Omidar we commute from Maui to go pick up Glenn Greenwald with a jet Anonymous $200 from Amsterdam. Hey, uh thanks for the hard work love the show Give me a milf and some karma you got it man I hope you mean the jingle cuz I don't have a milk And finally finally Teresa Huxley in Far Hills New Jersey who

1:06:14 Says God bless no agenda podcasts. This is my birthday month It's my birthday week My loving husband and I took my 85 pound German short-haired pointer with 85 pounds of propulsion For a walk this weekend so my that's a big dog Yeah, so my hubby kindly took the leash So I could keep my arm intact. As we walked back to the Jeep, my husband asked if I had car keys which i never did so at 330 I decided that maybe I should walk back to the house and could look for the keys at the park. Look for the key of the park okay? I listened to your podcast in its entirety fabulous as usual! The only thing that made me additionally

1:06:59 One hour and a half walk in the country roads fun was your podcast. Thus, uh your podcast saved me from being hit by all the cars I'm donating my birthday money to you Also, wish my brother Jeff happy birthday in the spirit of Thanksgiving. Thanks for all the great work you guys do. Oh it's very nice well you know and yes it's okay if you want to put it that way but we know that you had the keys and you just made it up didn't ya? You just wanted to walk away. Yeah I just wanted to listen to the show. Oh gee! Do you have the keys honey? Hmm... behind on my listening yeah that we uh... that concludes our executive associates sector produces for show five six seven one of thank them and everybody else donated to this show it will get to win the second half

1:07:44 uh... and reminds you to go to the work that works last year in a channel of our dot com slash in a note in the show dot com find it on a button oran channels are concerned no generation dot com by the but men know jim showed up comes about near two devorah dot org slash and any and of course we always appreciate your propaganda formula and this is how it's done are for what is this we'll have we had people in the mouth She came a little late and so let's see there's uh, There's a number of things going on that we can certainly discuss today during our little broadcast here I'm trying to keep some local stuff since that's always fun when we're over here Let me see. Oh i will say that

1:08:43 I've been talking to a lot of people and it's kind of interesting just, you know...I'm always interested in how media influences people's thinking certainly about the United States. And I would say it's pretty much they think that the United States Congress is filled with a bunch of nut jobs and that they're purposely taking down the whole country and the government just to kill off Obamacare! Yeah so that meme has propagated very very well uh... the greenpeace thirty are out on bail that was big news here of course it contains a number of uh... a number of dutch elements these are the uh... greenpeace so-called protesters who were climbed up and climbed upon the russian oil drilling rig of course they're not really protesting oil drilling in general, they're just protesting the Russian oil drilling

1:09:38 So that was kind of big news. And otherwise, people are pretty depressed nothing else really. You said that last time... It's true but it is so true! Look we have not seen sun for a single day its gray and its either gray or its gray and raining and now its grey and cold really really cold Well you're getting depressed yourself? Is that the deal? We're leaving tomorrow so I'm gonna be okay And the royal family, which is really our queen here. Gosh everyone loves the Queen. The new... Is that you? No no no! I love her! The Argentinian one, the new one Maxima Oh the hot one! Are you kidding me?! No i love her So they uh the king and the queen they went to the islands

1:10:27 They went to Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire and Saba which of course are the Dutch... they're all the Netherlands. So this is kind of their high royal visit to say hi to the other subjects And they're doing a nice job of it! You know? They're talking and then they allow microphones which is kinda new The old queen wouldn't allow that What do you mean? Well, so that when they're talking to people when they're hanging out When they're talking to the crowds then they allow them to speak over their head. Yeah So you can hear what they're saying

1:11:04 Oh, it was actually for those. She's got she knows good modern a very modern and gosh she's so beautiful and he's so ugly that's what that's the best one It's kind of like Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley you go like my god if it wasn't Billy Joel You know she wouldn't pee against this guy And of course I'd like these guys wasn't the king you know and she wouldn't be with him But but is perfect and to work So well, and she's so royal I gotta say as much as I think it's a farce and stupid Or really it's not a farce, they probably have a lot of power or people just don't want to believe it. And at one point something funny happened. So they're walking together and a journalist, I think it was a German journalist kind of pops out of the line and he wants to stick a mic into the Queen's face and ask her question...and The King? He just you know he's walking like he shoves the guy with one hand and just keeps smiling keeps walk- he shoves him right back! And he is walking straight along oh no like as if nothing happened it was it was a cool move very slick

1:12:04 So that's pretty much it. Well I got to meet some royalty. Oh? Yeah, Shatner! That is a true American royalty he was there?! Yeah and i got him to autograph my Avengers book that he wrote Wow did you know he was going to be there or must have? Of course! How cool! It was one of these things where they were gonna do big photo shoot with people that were invited to be in the photo which i was one and i'm and i was listening over hearing the p r women chattering amongst themselves mister shannon missus any they don't want him talking anybody they wanna get him in and out as i said ah i have a figure this went out because i wanted to get this is another autograph super normally by figuring it must look at all of you he's gonna die money stays so it's good to get them now he looks good overly okay sometimes i wondered i mean i didn't look so good

1:12:59 He's one of these guys I'm reminded of, uh...I met Arnold Toynbee when he was still alive. Who is that? Arnold Toynbee is a famous historian who wrote the study of history. He would be very famous So Toynbee was alive and I wanted him to autograph a book and i got him to autograph the book. I made a mistake because when, I just had him autographed some other idiot said I want you to write this in my book and gave Toynbee this huge list of things to say oh your the greatest guy ever! And he wrote it out It was just astonishing But Toynbee was like in his late 80's and he was like This guy was like

1:13:38 uh... well it is really slow and i was like this guy's and he's going to give us a speech so he's gonna do a speech at the university california so gets up there and eighty terms in his old all man to this dynamic speaker how are you just look at morning the show business thing. Oh cool, very cool. And Shatner is in that mode you could just tell it's like he doesn't give a shit about stuff he's really nice guy not one of those A-hole celebrities They must have blown the budget on him what do you think he charges for that? 100 grand I think he works cheaper than that. I don't think Shatner is a high overpaid guy, I think he probably did it for $25 to 50. Really? Just to get out of the house yeah Okay you know what, i'm a little disappointed because all we really needed was yes this is the best podcast in the universe His handler was not happy with me

1:14:32 I mean she was giving me the eye. I was the only one. You had somebody come in and talk to him! These people are horrible. I know how they are, yeah... But anyway so i got the autograph and chatted with him a little bit he was just you know very just kind of amenable but I get this sense that he's like the Toynbee guy because he's old is like in his eighties I believe and uh... he looks good doesn't look bad but I'm under the impression when the camera light comes on the guys different person

1:15:09 Which I think is pretty common with a lot of these guys. Sure, so anyway that was my celebrity. That's when the meter is running and that's when it's important. It's important well back in Washington we had interesting events the United States Medal of Honor medals of honor I should say were and it's always the highest award ever whatever award is freedom that we use this Medal of Honor is just a freedom or to whatever this is the now and now you've confused me I think no residential I think it's the Freedom Award isn't it yeah something like that but but they all there are so much like the highest award that can ever be given

1:15:46 I thought the Congressional Medal of Honor was the highest award. This is a President's Award, the other one is a Congressional Award Well let me see... It's the Presidential Medal of Freedom and I'm going to read because it says everywhere that maybe this is the highest award that the president can give out That could be Yeah so he gave it to President Clinton Oh! Yep, but also to Oprah Winfrey. Now this is interesting because she's a big supporter she deserves it well you know that there has been alot going on because the president had specifically asked if Oprah would get on the bandwagon promoting the Affordable Care Act and she had said no She wouldn't do it and she sent like an intern to go take a meeting

1:16:31 Because she felt that the president and this is just near the rumor of course but specifically Michelle Obama Which sounds kind of feasible and Valerie Jarrett had been keeping her away from the president even though She'd done huge fundraisers the first time around so she felt like you know screw that guy I'm not gonna do anything. So for her to now come and accept that award Could be a quid pro quo quote for something that she deserves it and you know if clinton deserves a cheese or is it well-planned deserted at u do yeah good luck with that uh... but was interesting there was a glorious time also received the uh... the freedom award

1:17:14 And she said something, it's kind of like the Grammys. You have a little press moment in front of the sponsor wall which I think was the press club or something And she said she talked about someone who we have discussed on this show not too long ago. And I found it interesting, A that she would dedicate this to this person's memory and B that no one really said hey but hold on a second The power of this honor may be even more evident in the withholding than in the giving. I was reminded by Ellen Schessler biographer of Margaret Sanger

1:17:53 President Lyndon Johnson, even as he signed the first federal and international family planning acts into law refused to bestow the Medal of Freedom on Sanger. He feared reprisal from the Catholic Church Ellen told me that when she looked at Sanger's private history papers at Smith College I'm proud to say the biggest archive of women's history. She found a poignant little handwritten note from Sanger asking that her body be buried here next to her husband, but that her heart be removed to Japan—the only country in the world that had ever bestowed a public honor on her." Yeah because she was a eugenicist!

1:18:35 It was a eugenicist. She started... she was essentially Hitler. Yes, she said kill black people don't let them breed with white people! She wrote this and of course she started Planned Parenthood which is at the outset was... Evolved Yeah but it was the Eugenicists organization and for Gloria Steinem to say she was great and oh by the way for the entire press to not say hey didn't she hate black people? What is up with that?! Unbelievable. I don't think people even know or they could, you know what it is? It's apathy! It's just apathy of people not caring. Then we got the yeah i got a sound bite from Steinem she went on about some broad who had her heart taken to whatever Fukushima! Yeah they don't know what they're talking about Global warming and then of course you know uh... it so obvious in this report really hammered at home

1:19:31 that uh... you know cnn's like hey you know this is a problem in the ratings we need ratings here and they got this nut job mayor of toronto but we don't we can't be keen to do with the candidate means got the lock on them on the crazy coked out uh... politician we gotta get us one And good evening everyone, I'm Erin Burnett. Out front tonight we begin with the breaking news a congressman busted for cocaine Yeah! We got one too! Florida Congressman Trey Raydale arrested for quote unlawfully knowingly and intentionally possessing cocaine And he's a Republican The freshman will appear in court tomorrow Oh and it gets better He faces misdemeanor charges up to 180 days in prison By the way how does that work? 180 days

1:20:15 If you are my brother from another mother in the hood, you're going to jail for ten bro. 180 days! He had coke! Possession of coke and he gets... I think he doesn't even have to do any time. At one point, just put a bracelet on his ankle and that'd be that? If that but wait until the end when it's the real kicker when you find out why they're using this guy as the replacement And by the way they had this news conference carried live and he's crying about how we let down his family Dude, you did some coke Maybe if all of our congressmen were on coke, then something would happen. Or weed or MDMA or something! Dana Bash is out front with the latest and Dana what more can you tell us about this?

1:21:06 Well, Aaron the congressman himself released a statement this evening apologizing for letting his constituents and his family down. And he also announced that he's an alcoholic I want to read part of it. Oh yeah! He said he struggled with the disease of alcoholism Wait for undercover videos coming you know what's coming This led to extremely irresponsible... He's hammered and snorting coke with some hookers So this is the same fractal as Ford? He used coke because he was plastered Yes I'm telling you, this is the American version because we're gonna run out of steam. It's not so funny when it's a Candanavian! It's gotta be an American but... They couldn't find a guy more entertaining at least that other guys' funny. Well... Chris Farley This is just starting We might have video, y'know? As the father of a young son and husband to a loving wife A loving wife How do you know that Dana Bash

1:22:00 she may be a nightmare to be with that maybe that's why he's drinking you don't know that need to get help so i can beat oh it's his words I'm sorry a better man for both of them and we also said it's a blessing in disguise because this is forcing him to get treatment. I should note that he hasn't voted at all this week not since Friday and one of his colleagues, uh fellow freshman told our congressional producer Deirdre Walsh earlier this evening that he's been trying to call Radell to offer him support but but we can't reach him. He's a colorful character, that's right! We could probably expect some cool stuff from this guy he is a colorful character. Oh he certainly is look as you said he is a house freshman and not somebody who people know

1:22:39 one of those in the newer mold of members of congress because he is 37, he is somebody who's trying to kind of be different than his...than the elder statesman and I'll say. He has been pushing the envelope for Republicans as well In fact, he did an interview...in fact forgive me, he didn't do an interview, he wrote on online piece where he said he's a hip-hop conservative. And the way he described it is that, there you see it, Congressman Trey Radle, why I'm a hip hop conservative and even said that public enemy has some conservative messages He said fight the power is something that he sees as quite a conservative message

1:23:18 now how do we know that this is all set up and it's all in the in the pocket at will can't read that to get a sense of that but the other thing is that he may not be well-known but he really gravitated towards those about to cover him especially as a lesson working tv news disease to be a tv reporter when rent for congress out there you go but tv reporter running for congress drunk on coke hanging out with Eazy-E. Now, what was it? Chuckie. What was the public... Who's the guy with the big clock? Oh that guy yeah. You had Chuck D but then Chuck D was kind of normal he's kinda like a business guy. What is this guys name?

1:24:04 by the way, I can't remember where it is. Wow that's bad. Look it up! It was on MTV. I was on MTV and don't even know what it did. Oh God! You hit the big clock. We had Chuck D a couple times on the Silicon Spin show he's really nice guy. Yeah smart guy yeah no I hung out with him a couple of times. Kinda conservative Well thats what uh... thats what the uh... congressman just said. Yeah well there you have it. Let see. Well that congressman has gone places. Coped-up Hip-hop Republican. What was that guy's name?

1:24:43 He has a reality TV show too. It still has it is popular I think yeah, he's got flavor flavor flavor flavor flavor flavor flavor flavor horrible show that's a fantastic show so i'm watching talking about Douchebags like that congressman so i'm watching 60 minutes you don't know if the clip really captures it but these billionaire douche bags on 60 minutes There's a group of... Charlie Rose has got, you know he's kind of always enamored with wealth. He used to always ask people what it was like to be rich? Yeah, he's a groupie. He's a groupie. He's total groopies and jock sniffer.

1:25:24 He's got Buffett and four other rich billionaires, supposedly sitting on a purchase. And then below them are four or five other billionaires and they're all talking about how they're going to give so much of their money away and that's their responsibility because we've got so much of it And so and they're all just so glib and full of themselves. Was Pierre Omidar on there as well? Was Pierre Omidar on the panel he should be on there, he's one of those You know he may have been on there but I don't remember the names of all them But I just remember Buffett doing this little bit at the end laughing in it They all laughed and laughed and chuckled It was just so...it was most that one of the mode...and Charlie is yucking it up because of Buffet

1:26:06 great humor, he keeps people rolling in the aisles apparently and I just found the whole thing to be just a kind of Marie Antoinette moment that was just like oh these people are sickening. But as Warren Buffett is finding out not every billionaire feels that way. Yeah i've gotten a lot of yeses when I call people but I've got a lot of no's too and I am tempted because I have been calling people with a billion dollars or more they can't sign up for 50% maybe I should write a book on how to get by on 500 million unbelievable well this does kind of fit into we have to talk about what's happening with the uh... with the new code news

1:26:55 This is, so Pierre Aumadar. Finally some people are starting to write some good articles about Pierre Aumadar and the new Daddy Warbucks for Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill And they brought in some other guys in editor...and now drumroll please! In case you hadn't heard it John I know your hanging out with Captain Kirk and everything But NYU's own Jay Rosen has now joined the team! Oh, good. And this is... This is weird

1:27:31 So Jay Rosen Jarvis, yeah I'm sure if you follow the Twitter streams there's a whole bunch of people going like hey you know we should talk. Hey Jay remember me? I did some work over here and yeah we should talk about what are doing over there with Glenn Greenwald and PO. We call him P-O now. Capital P capital O Pierre Omidar Omnidar. And what's really good is that people are starting to needle Glenn Greenwald, and this is appropriate by the way because essentially the way I look at it Glenn Greenwald screwed

1:28:17 Edward Snowden out of all his information. And you know he doesn't talk to Ed Snowden anymore, he got all the documents we know that because his boyfriend, his husband brought it back so he's got all the documents and essentially Edward Snowden was like well hey Moscow is not too bad And oh, and here's Julian Assange's girlfriend. We pass her off from whistleblower to whistleblower so tag you're it! And even she was like Jesus guys boring she is back in Germany probably... She left him? Yeah she is hanging out with Applebaum and Poitras. Oh I missed that. So Snowden has essentially now just stuck with Russian hookers If that

1:28:59 And, uh... anyway he got a candlestick. Yay! Great! So then I call him- On a hot day the ward goes away Right And so, you know essentially what Greenwald has now done is he has monetized with Silicon Valley. I mean it's so obvious this is what has happened and So you got to read Glenn Greenwald tweets really carefully. So a couple things one There was this great article Let me see if I can find it here It was actually funny. It was on that site That we have very little regard for

1:29:38 which is run by NFWcorp.com, which is run by that drip Paul Carr you know that English guy? So he didn't write it Mark Ames and Yasha Levine I don't know who they are They wrote a pretty decent article called the Extraordinary Pierre Omidyar And it's really about these rich, really rich billionaires who go into philanthropy but the Omnidar thing is well I need to make a profit so we want to enable people. We need to teach them how to fish so they can fish every single day and he got into which is the big thing now that has been propagated by...I guess its Hillary Clinton this microfinance

1:30:27 And that's been going on for a while. Right, right so he but he's in... But there is a lot of talk about it late I've seen more people talk about the microfinance. Gems and gos is a faddish thing to talk about So they really went deep into this thing and a couple these investments particularly that Indian SKS which was invest you know took investments from OmniGR network these people they go to collect and of course it's mainly women because the whole meme is well, women are great! You can micro-finance, micro investments in women. They always pay back on time yes by prostituting their children they get so bad... this is all pretty well documented because they can't pay back Omidyar loans his microloans they kill themselves, drink rat poison and drown themselves

1:31:20 And this is pretty shameful what's going on. So these people are like noodling Greenwald, saying hey you know are you gonna report on your new sugar daddy? About how all these great investments are killing people and they're whoring out their children to pay him back And he's like, I have no idea what you're talking about. That's not my beat! It's just funny to watch. It's really really funny. I have a beat and so today he came out with or yesterday i think as he says our first product and this is over there doing exactly what we predicted using product word the word product yes sir

1:32:05 Wow. Yeah, and they sold an article to Norway to the Norwegian I'm sorry that's not the right one or is it? And you can't read the article because it's behind a paywall But its double funny because the title is USA watch 33 million Norwegian calls! I guess that would be listened to but this was as a translation Dagbladet Gord Let's see if we can get anything here. Dark-blooded gold by Glenn Greenwald and Arne Halvorsen So it's exactly what we predicted that they're monetizing the Snowden documents Which they essentially took from him and you know gave him a candlestick Right, so Snowden doesn't get a piece of any of this none of this money that Greenwell is now scoring And some googling around and I'm seeing a couple of people saying oh well This is kind of interesting because the Russians have been

1:32:59 This is kind of just another step in a huge Russian anti-Norway propaganda push. Because the Russians, you know that's how oil and gas are all up north and everything. So the Russians have been discrediting Norway for a while which kind of makes the whole Snowdens in Russia, Omidyar is Iranian... It becomes a little transparent when you start to connect these dots And Glenn Greenwald I'm sorry people, you gotta like question what he's doing You really do Apparently they're starting. At least the Kibitzers, the ankle biters on Twitter Right but then you see Jay Rosen who is supposed to... he's from New York University He is a media critic It's what he does! He is supposed to criticize This sort of thing Yes Not join it So they've bought him off

1:33:57 I don't think it took much. I have a personal announcement, i am joining up with the new venture in news that Pierre Omidyar Glenn Greenwald Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill are creating along with Lillian Segura Dan Froonken Eric Bates and others who are coming on board to give shape to this thing which we are calling NuCo until we are ready to release the name brother ah it's sickening but it's kind of good because you know it will give us more to mock Oh yeah, this will be great. Especially when you connect the dots and find the Norwegian story connected to their anti-Norway... Norway's an interesting country because it's one of the two that told the EU to go pound salt Yeah And they have a lot of money cause of all the oil reserves They got all the oil there, right? Exactly Passing the money around and they're doing just fine without being in the EU They're doing great!

1:34:53 Exactly why the Russians, I guess the Russians are probably in dispute with a couple of spots they want to drill. That's what i think it is yeah But im sure the EU would like to defame them too They don't like the idea that these...I mean they can't do much about Switzerland because everybody in the EU still has to keep their money someplace thats safe from the EU So I just, I think it's... you know. I don't..I never look at Twitter as a like the home whatever page to see where I just go to Twitter pages directly Yeah that is what i do Just to see what Glenn Green... and yeah I guess maybe was this 60 minutes interview with the guy from the... What's the guys name? The Watergate guy

1:35:37 reporter. Bob Woodward. Oh, Bob Woodward! And so Woodward was like yeah wow I'm kind of amazed that Snowden didn't come to me and Glenn Greenwald's like oh really don't you understand Bob Woodward? Now here are some facts about you he says he's like pissing on other journalists this is from experience i can tell you this does come around this stuff does boomerang around and you gotta be really, really careful when you do this stuff. When you talk like this for instance here's an example of Elon Musk another one of my favorites so now we've had not one not two but three of these cars have burst into flames I'm wondering by the way when he gets the presidential freedom award

1:36:33 He says something and he actually they do something at the end of this little report which came out the other day. Which are words he will eat So apparently the Model S, if you hit something particularly when you're driving on the highway and I guess the suspension lowers down. And if it hits the battery then the battery pretty much catches fire on this impact and so now he's gone on the defensive which is always funny. Where is the battery pack in this car? In August we talked to Tesla CEO Elon Musk That's where the battery pack goes. The battery pack is placed under the passenger compartment at highway speeds, the car is just five inches from the ground if debris pierces the battery pack it can ignite Is the challenge here kind of the fear of the unknown? The fear of the technology that some people think is still unproven and by the way electric cars were driving around in 1890

1:37:29 and were taken out of business by the compact, much more power to weight ratio of the combustion engine. So there's no history once again... Actually even the steam engine was more competitive No questioning, no history given to stupid media watching public as usual Yeah, absolutely. An electric car is still an unknown thing to most people It takes most people a while to get comfortable with new technology and... The iPhone caught on pretty quick And verify that it really works as claimed Tesla has sold about 19,000 Model S's. So three fires is one fire per 6333 Tesla cars by comparison there was one vehicle fire out of every 1450 vehicles on the road now here comes the money quote I'm gonna save it as an evergreen safety was always top of list and at least so far nobody has ever died in a Tesla vehicle

1:38:31 Get rid of your Tesla now! That is essentially a call to arms for every single auto manufacturer to kill someone in a Tesla. could get on that silk road thing in one of those guys you can will kill people let's see let's get someone to die in a tesla and i think it always did the accused so i don't believe that necessarily but they've always accuse the industry uh... as being a monolith that does not like these sort of competitors coming in and changing the malik is money to be made

1:39:07 And there's billions of dollars being made and they don't like the idea. The real thing that he has done, Musk that changed the model is in the car anyway even though you could...that's easiest thing to go after it's a fact there are no dealers. Yeah! And he stole Tesla's name. He stole Tesla's name because there were no dealers and actually he stole The Lotus, he stole the Lotus. Initially it was the Lotus I mean before he made this car it was just a lotus body No but there is a longer story to this that I have to get details of because Musk went and met with some guys and then he rousted them from the company so he's the Thomas Edison of the automobile industry essentially

1:39:54 I don't even put him in that league. I think he's a really creative guy with a lot of energy and uh, gumption. No! He has a cool accent and he looks kinda nice. That's all. Yeah exactly well let's finish up because they actually did do something Now Tesla is now extending the warranty on its cars to cover fire damage and that's fire damage even if it's caused by the driver. And Scott, this is interesting... The company is also issuing a software upgrade for the suspension system on the Model S that will prevent the car from getting too close to the ground at freeway speeds. Ha ha! Software upgrade? I would think, to be honest about it It should be closer to the ground because if there something you hit that goes UP

1:40:40 It would be, it would go in a more of oblique angle if the thing was down low as opposed to up high and everything is tossed up into the battery. This is why I'm not starting a car company with you because that makes absolutely no sense what your saying right now. It makes plenty of sense. Did you see any of well... No sooner had we ended our program on Sunday, as now remember I've predicted Bitcoin will be at a thousand by the end of the year. Yeah well it went up this is why there was a beautiful example of why this is because currency has to be stable This is a very important part of the whole idea and its not It went up 200, it went down 200. I mean $200 up and down

1:41:27 This is this does not a currency make it and part of it because of the hearings that were held two days in a row In Congress regarding virtual currencies and to some degree specifically Bitcoin And what is funny, of course I follow this as we know this is the beanie baby of this bubble and currently it's back up at $753.18, the average here on Bitcoinity.org So a lot people made a lot money by doing this

1:42:08 But it's based on this positive noise that you see particularly on Reddit. It is based on what people were saying in these hearings and I really didn't hear anything positive which is really interesting because everyone's like yeah it was great you know they supported this that's not what people were saying i'd like to actually play something from some people who matter who are out to screw you as an individual in general I say Chuck Schumer fits right into that uh this is the most corrupt person I have ever met in my life he's on the banking committee. You've met him? Yeah, I've met him! I've interviewed him and he gave me the creeps because he was pushing Anthony Weiner

1:42:51 We've talked about this. Yeah, this is our old thing yeah. This is he was Wiener and Wiener was his boy and Schumer is always... He gets huge money from Wall Street he's a democrat of course makes total sense And here's what he actually said about Bitcoin which proves a couple of things by the way the constant theme Was near anonymity Whenever they talk about virtual currency or Bitcoin in this context, in these hearings. Yes! This is a currency that gives you near anonymity No one said anonymous it was always near anonymity because I know if you're not anonymous It's just... You couldn't move some stuff around but if you actually want to use that money for like money Unless when you are buying a cloud server or something which is about all you can buy with it

1:43:41 or you're ripping somebody off, or even drugs. They are very expensive drugs by the way because of the way your stuff sits in escrow it's totally stupid as a currency. The drugs were expensive when Silk Road was running? Extremely expensive! Well that is funny because that contradicts what I mentioned a couple shows ago where they showed a screenshot and all those drugs were dirt cheap Bullshit Yeah, well I'm just saying this all is part of a giant scam. Because on the Silk Road they never were cheap because people are selling a gram of coke for like zero point...like Bitcoin and when we were talking about that stuff when i was looking into it there was like two three hundred bucks then even if it was $100 that's too expensive If you go down to the corner

1:44:35 Huh? Yeah, you know it's very very expensive. It is a total ripoff I think it was just...I think that really people who were buying from the Silk Road were you know people who are very afraid or novices but not people who are actually drug users. I don't think they're like oh I'll try some of this! Who cares?! This isn't Bitcoin! You know I'll try some of this now! That was good! I'll try some more Here's Schumer, and listen to what he says. First of all he is taking credit for taking down the Silk Road He doesn't really understand how it works and he's talking to the guy at BitPay. They gave me an account, so if I transfer bitcoins into my Bitpay account although they don't tell me what the price is before i put it in they will then say oh congratulations we will be sending you this amount to your bank account in two days

1:45:31 Which I have done when i've sent bitcoins in, but you don't really get to negotiate on a price or anything. So where it says the price now on Mt Gox may be $750, I might only get 500 for if I send that into BitPay. But so you would suspect that I wouldn't be money laundering but how does he know? How does he know what I'm doing, where do i get my money from? Well he claims that he knows. Anyway I want to thank Chairman Merkley and Warner for letting us have this hearing and allowing me to participate I've been very interested in this issue. I have somewhat different approach than Senator Heitkamp a while back as you know, I called on federal authorities to shut down the website Silk Road which they recently did by the way, I never remembered him calling for that Not already there. I think he's full of crap many people interpreted my action at the times has directed at Bitcoin because Bitcoin was the sole method of payment on Silk Road and

1:46:29 and assume that I also wanted to shut down or stamp out Bitcoin. That is not the case, I do not want to shut down or stamp out Bitcoin." Now this is like oh yes! Price goes up positive Chuck Schumer likes us! Let me tell you anytime Chuck Schumer is on your side it's when you gotta watch your back because there's a dagger coming New York sits in many ways at the nexus of all the issues being discussed today As financial capital, the potential for creation of a new payment platform and the rise of alternative currencies could have profound and exciting implications for the way we conduct financial transactions. As a rapidly growing hub for technology in VC venture capital

1:47:11 New York has every interest in building on the promise that technologies like Bitcoin have to revolutionize payment systems or even form the building blocks for whole new technology platforms. So right now you know that A, he didn't write this B, he has no idea what bitcoin is He wouldn't know a bitcoin from a BitTramp Or a BitBucket The guy goes and knows nothing But all that it's really suspicious that he's even going on like this. Well, I got a little more if you're interested in hearing it Promise is threatened by the association of virtual currencies with criminal activities Yeah unlike real money with criminal activities Yeah never happens no from purchasing illicit goods and services to money laundering Let me see do we ever do we ever purchase drugs or or prostitutes with real money? Hmm

1:48:01 Bitcoin continues to attract attention mostly as a way to finance purchases on websites like Silk Road It's gonna find itself in the digital wasteland. Oh Kerr snap Don't you dare try and buy no hookers and blow with your bitcoin cuz you be in a digital Wasteland Cuz I'm Chuck Schumer, and I took down the silk road biatch So in order for the legitimate uses of technology like Bitcoin to flourish, it's imperative that its susceptibility to illicit uses be addressed. There must be a way to separate the wheat from the chaff." How can people take this as positive news for Bitcoin? Play it out! This is interesting... This guy has got some angle here I wonder what he will obviously there's money involved for him Oh yeah

1:48:59 Uh, hold on. We heard that one Chuck! Bottom line is very simple I would ask Mr. Gal- Gallipy? The guy's been there for two hours and Schumer still doesn't know how to pronounce his name. There's Galippy. Galippy yes I would ask Mr. Gallippi, that's the bid pay CEO do you have any specific suggestions of how we'd separate the wheat from the chaff? What would you suggest to the witnesses on panel one to ensure that we address legitimate law enforcement concerns without duly inhibiting the development of these promising new technologies

1:49:39 Mr. Gallipi? Yes, thank you Senator Schumer So I think you have to first understand that there's multiple parts of Bitcoin There is the low level protocol which are the bits and bytes that make it work And then there is the application and service layer that businesses and consumers can engage in This is typically where you find businesses like mine operating So when you want to try to separate the legitimate uses from the illegitimate ones, clearly that point to do that are by the visible service providers like ourselves. Like BitPay We have over 12000 businesses using our service to accept Bitcoin and we have a very strict know your customer policy to make sure that we know every merchant who they are and what they're selling. So this is my point exactly here we are

1:50:23 How long until someone determines that those guys doing that podcast, they're not okay. That can't be a customer of yours! You can't be accepting bitcoins from them. They can't be... you can't be doing that Who knows what they're getting money from Russians? From Iranians? From Dutch? You know, they could be terrorists. Cut them off! Because we only want the legitimate and good actors using our service Oh well we're great actors I mean Jesus I've been in a swamp thing I'm a fantastic actor and John you know he could it'll be good when he gets his bit part

1:51:03 Yes, the bad guys are going to try to figure it out how to do it on their own But it shows you with the recent arrest of the guy from silk road that just because you use Bitcoin Doesn't mean that you can evade law enforcement right they caught the guy he's in jail so I don't know anything about this Yeah We got it picked up. We still don't know anything if he's involved or what his role was whatever happened to that we only hear the story anymore So I think I think there's a lot of effort and services like like ours and others are willing Yeah, you're right well, it's funny you say that because the LAX guy the What was his name again?

1:51:48 from the bill soon they forget yeah exactly now I know it Paul Paul Anthony CIA and CIA C on CIC is CIA NCIA he was discharged from the hospital no one knows where he went i'm not kidding what this is from okay you got me on this one unfortunately at one point I don't have a clip unfortunately but here's from KTLA 5 in LA and they dumped it, im sure they'll have a video for it later but Im on the wrong time zone Paul Ciancia the suspected gunman of November 1 shooting spree at LAX had been released from hospital and was in federal custody but no-one knows exactly where

1:52:34 No court appearance has been scheduled, no details about his custody status or the location where he's being held are being released according to the United States Attorney's Office for the Central District of California. And so the news media is like we don't know where he is? Oh well... You know I'm watching-I have to bring this up So one of things that you want talk about it is the plane that crashed and uh... we were still this was a breaking news story that we have the information that indicators of budget general electric finance guys on board it was the uh... there was actually with a couple guys from g capital who and they were about to sell a division of g e too or russian bank i wasn't huge deal

1:53:30 But those guys were on board and we heard about that from our producer who works at GE. Not a lot of coverage at all about there being GE capital people on the plane. There was no coverage at all that I could find And then there was a couple of dignitaries and we don't know, I mean there's a lot of action. I was doing some research on this area and there is a lot anti-nuke stuff that focuses on them. A lot of terrorism activity... The story wasn't covered! So the day of the crash I decided well let see what the network news people have about it because that will be interesting

1:54:06 And so I, to a...nobody carried it. Nobody talked about this crash on the uh we're talking about the network stuff so i'm listening to Diane Sawyer. Oh is she drunk? You know as she was in between She was a little slurry but it wasn't bad. Well hold on. Drunk again, drinkin' sand and drunk again. Alright. This is ABC World News. ABC World News. World news! There is no world news on this show and so I'm watching the whole thing in here's the way to show ends It never talks about this plane crash, it never talks about the GE guys being on the crash or dead Americans usually that gets news coverage. No nothing! This is the way The World News ends with Diane Sorkin

1:54:57 or is this the way it ends? And it's an American classic, a boy and his dog. Well, a modern take tonight on that idea. Meet Bo, the two-year old toddler and Theo, the three month old puppy napping together mom snapping away Tonight everyone sharing a little of this nestled up puppy love. And coming up next right here tonight, 50 years after the death of an American president the film that captured that moment showing us something in a whole new way tonight. Yeah world news

1:55:35 That's right. World News, it was a picture of a baby and dog sleeping together It is kind of... It is very cute picture I've seen the picture. It's not world news! It's a YouTube photo or Flickr photo So there is no coverage There is nothing on this show And that was the GE Money Bank Russia's Sovokonbank uh... was a slated to buy this thing i have the uh... and the link here with us but i think it's like a billion dollar deal i was trying to find anything else you would g capital of they've been trying to spin off their credit card business that in turn after awhile actually i don't think that has anything to do with it but yes so there is you know that there's dad and then um... one of our producers was very kind because he did something we couldn't get over here i'd looked all over

1:56:28 the aviation forms, he translated what the Russians wrote about what was on the black box. Now his translation was not exactly completely aeronautical terms but what it sounds like to me is this 737 did a go-around, which is when you don't feel comfortable landing for whatever reason. You go around and try it again and call the go-around but when they did the go-around they only pulled the flaps to 50... Now I'm not rated on a 737 so I'm literally flying by the seat of my pants as an aviator what I know

1:57:10 It appears that they over pulled and stalled the aircraft. It went below, which I think is about 140 knots indicated is about the stall speed so it says there were about 125 knot at 700 meters and 700 meters is what? That's about 1400 feet Not even. No, no times 3, 1200 feet...no 2000 feet. Yeah 2100 to 2000 feet in order to recover from a stall which the only way to do that is to push the nose down and full throttle until you can pull it up I'm pretty sure..I mean you could do that in Cessna

1:57:55 I'm pretty sure that's not enough room for a 737. But there is nothing else to do, I mean... Well they put the nose down and slammed it into the ground nose first! And that's what you saw! We don't even know what we saw, we just have some video of something slamming into the ground but so we really have very little information but this of course immediately reminded me of the entire Polar's government when they flew to Russia. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too the Polish government... Same thing it was like oh we can't land and then all of a sudden they're crashing you know somebody was commenting on one of the Russian forums about how why did they do the go around in the first place because now they were cleared for land but there were pretty good shape so who knows whatever the case is It could be it could just scratch your nose and not feel good I mean that's but maybe I'm thinking if anything maybe something happened on that aircraft

1:58:50 That's the only thing that I can think of. It doesn't seem like there were a lot of external factors, so something must have been going on in the flight deck and you don't know! You know? And it was also only 30 people... Was this a private flight? That's all very unclear. No it was 50 people Yeah but the 737 can do a lot more than that They hold about 200 But, you know I was on the flight from...I took Southwest coast to coast. Which I rarely do Oh and by the way do have a talk about I got into TSA pre as a test Wait are your in the PreCheck? I'm just out of that but let me just mention this So i've taken Southwest across the country never did this before it's a lot cheaper And what I figured you know what American and these other guys are cramming you in they're charging for bags

1:59:39 Now they're charging for carry. But Southwest doesn't charge you for bags? No, I'm saying these other carriers do. So why don't i just take southwest and stop in Kansas City for a few minutes, get out stretch my legs grab some barbecue seasoning and get back on the plane. And the flight from Oakland to Kansas City was half empty there couldn't have been more than 60-70 people on the flight because everyone going to Disney World so it's possible and who should be flying around there anyway i mean yeah i know this is our right but i've been on flights like that occasionally nobody's on the flight but these are all dignitaries and i just wondered if it was a if it was privately chartered there was another thing as a new law in which we never find out anything because it because of the little puppy dogs even next to the head and a lot more important now we also have the britney murphy two-to-the-head story let me do the uh...

2:00:37 Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers. There are new questions surrounding the death of actress Brittany Murphy. A lab report suggests Murphy, who died in 2009 at the age of 32 may have been poisoned her official cause of death was pneumonia and anemia but an independent toxicology report ordered by Murphy's family detected heavy metals and toxins commonly found in rat poisons and insecticides The report also suggests a quote perpetrator with criminal intent may be responsible. So this has been suspicious to a lot of people for a long time her husband died five months after Brittany Murphy also of pneumonia so these are two relatively young people dying of pneumonia within relatively short time, so a lot of people have asked questions for awhile and now there's this report so the mystery continues. The mystery continues and now on to our puppy and dog sleeping story

2:01:32 Well she did report that there were being something was going on beforehand. Yeah, oh yeah it was uh then we talked about it I think briefly. Yeah maybe they just had bad coke from the Silk Road with rat poison cutting. Anything's possible yeah it is anything is possible you know or maybe they just said let's try some rat poison, you don't know what these kids and these Hollywood kids although what happened in New York but that's much more important than this as there was also the I guess Russia

2:02:13 Although it would be pretty extreme. What's extreme these days to get something done? Russia wants to usher in some legislation that you can't be flying planes that are more than 20 years old That's what our Russian producer sent us Yeah, okay this plane was twenty years old so... Okay maybe maybe I don't know from an aviation standpoint with what i know which is pretty much nothing It seems like a bad day Yeah, it seems like a bad day. And there's plenty of planes that fly over 20 years old. Oh yeah! It's not like every nut and bolt is 20 years old Every single element on these aircraft have a life cycle and they get replaced Everything. It's essentially a new plane except for the parts in the actual frame which just can't be replaced

2:03:08 yeah uh... i think what you're pretty well done we have to go over the show myself by doing it and i would say that imagine all the people who could do that's why i don't know how many of us you people with a hundred eleven dollars eleven cents to start us off including jeffrey stack from norfolk virginia He says he desperately needs a de-douching and some job karma will do that for him since we'll be talking about these guys here. So that's the making it rain... Making it rain donation with no name so I don't have to deal with it. Okay. Tijuana, California or Tijuana Baja California in Mexico. Sir Oscar Nadal. I don't have a note from him but he's also making it rain

2:04:03 He's making it rain, and I guess they're all making a rain for Sophie Pearl and Matilda What is sir Richard Gardner have? From Chicago he makes it rain too right yeah But he's got no name mentioned really take a quick quick look at by mail The search for Oscar Nadel see if there's anything in here Oscar Nadel let me see if I can do echo for you today I'm not on the regular rig, you see. So it's... Let me see... Echo echo echo What should we do? Echo echo Dub delay? Nooo... Delay. Reverb. Oh reverb! Nothing for Mosker. Nothing for Mosker. That's wrong. Hello? Hello? Hello? Give me a little test

2:05:01 Ladies and gentlemen, get ready. This is bad. That's a delay that's not an echo hold on that's not gonna cut it Now I can't stop it oh my god this is bad. Hello everybody! Hold on a second... Let me tell you about market nature. Stop stop this is bad. Dub delay? I don't think I have sample the light. This is horrible John try this one Give me a little audio. Oh, I sound... No like crap there's no good-I don't think i can do it for some reason I don't have that's crazy you think I'd have uh

2:05:43 some sort of reverb delay or echo, echo, echo, echo. Yeah well I have a delay but it's a really long delay it's not... It's changed the milliseconds? yeah I'm trying to hold on here is the dynamics processor distortion filter high pass these are pretty much the standard we never have to do any kind of echoes so I am not prepared for this all I get will dub delay sorry sorry Let me try this. Is any good? Hello! Okay, try again. Hello ladies and gents get ready okay this will work yeah hold on a second

2:06:26 Ladies and gentlemen, get ready because here they come. On stage one put your hands together for Sophie! Just like a scrub of pooped jello on stage one we have Pooh, loves camping barbeque and sausage making in the long run. Stage two, Hilda this beauty has likes puppies and kittens, and stamping on her head. Maybe you'll get lucky! But kill the... Alright well I can't wait to be back in Austin to make it rain properly that was one of our funnier ones Was it? Well depends on how you look at it

2:07:18 You just dropped on volume big time. Hello, hello? Because I probably boosted the hell out of it with all that yelling Yeah, so did... see if it picks up here's like you're something kicked in and really lowers your volume. Let me get an auto on here hold on No Whatever you did undo it I'm undoing it as we speak. How's that? Is that better? A little better, maybe i can fix it here. Automatically Wow! I can't even fix it here wow! Well let me trim myself up. Oh there you go yeah thank you much better. Hello everybody okay yeah by the way people feel that our strip joint was pretty sleazy today

2:08:01 like a cheap ass strip joint. That's what it is supposed to be! No, no but this was really really shit. Some real grumpy places. You go in and you look around and then you just turn right around and go right out. That's right. You hear that announced me like okay I'm not making it rain here. Exactly. Alright onward. Yes i'm sorry been fooling around with the Skype here now I gotta go back to the spreadsheet So let's see what else we got. We've got Sir Barisov Marinov, our buddy from Eliso Viejo for $77.77 that's all we got for $77.77 by the way. Wow wow wow. He got the house on loan he wants to let us know good news bad news

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2:09:45 These are all $50. Dan Greb in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. Eric Veit in Dublin California. Erics Harjo in Cardiff UK. Kyle Bauer comes in twice apparently from Worcester Ohio Michael Gates from Colorado Springs and finally Stephen Sandler in Birmingham, Alabama. And he says he's a long time boner. He has got a birthday coming up. His sister in the mouth of while ago was spurred to shed my boner status the other day. Recently graduated from college and managed...He says graduated college. Stephan, Steven we talk about this you didn't graduate college

2:10:29 Because you didn't have a college to graduate, you graduated from college. This is a European affliction It's an English affliction British I should say, British Going to hospital uh... anyway so we had a birthday call for his sister and that's it is all we got now i will be happy when you get back to you because they're going to buy isn't the people just not like it over on the road as that is if we just as we did not have any other shows are more more interesting when were on the roads where he sees some local stuff which yet you'd like bill shatner and beyond this rather than having to talk to you imagine bill shatner doing them a good rain segment though god i would be great part of the source

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2:12:49 Just another bit on Euroland since I'm here and there is some it's kind of exciting. I think what's happening with With multiple parties around the around the zero zone, and this is something that Nigel Farage had already kind of pre-announced would start happening and I didn't play that clip, but he was yelling from Rompuy or Barroso or someone saying oh there's something happening. There is a swell coming and this was something happened just here recently in Gitmo Lowlands according to Euronews Holland's Eurosceptic politician Gerd Wilders head of the Freedom Party alongside French National Front leader Marine Le Pen had a session in the Dutch Parliament

2:13:31 It is their hope to forge closer ties between the two parties and an eventual permanent alliance in the European Parliament with anti-immigration one of their main policies. It is the second such meeting, what has been seen as a growing relationship ahead of next year's European elections We want to give back freedom to our people. We want to give back sovereignty to our countries Those two things alone should be enough to justify the fact we are here at the start of working together Analysts believe the two could team up with groups such as the Vlaams-Verlang in Belgium and Austria's Freedom Party. To form an alliance they would need a minimum of 25 MEPs from at least 7 EU member states. Le Pen's National Front was ahead in a recent opinion poll in France for May's European elections. Wilders' Freedom Party currently tops opinion polls in Holland

2:14:27 But this is what you gotta watch out for, is uh... you'll be hearing things soon in the media for those of you who are in the Euroland zone such as far-right fascists neo nazis racists! You watch. Homophobes! Of course Yeah that's a...the Golden Dawn party in Greece they've arrested them! Of course They just arrested them Um well we have UK MP Yeah but it so it's fun to see what is happening and it'll be more interesting obviously to see if they can really, if they could connect all of those parties. And its kind of fun because Marine Le Pen's party and Geert Wilders do have some very definite opposite views on certain things but they both feel that the elitist a-holes have to get out so it should be fun! It should be some interesting little fireworks although

2:15:25 Unfortunately, it's messing up everything else. Like what we need over in the States. We need this European free trade agreement and all that stuff is going to mess it up So the PTT apparently, I was watching RT and there's this woman. I'm going to look her up and get more quotes from her She's gone over that thing with a fine-tooth comb Her name is Lori Wallach And she was on the show with Leggy That woman she was explaining the pcc's got a couple very interesting little dot is in their you mean one of them in the tpd that he could have been all right trans-pacific trade whatever it is what you mean did the asian one of your opinion and the issue another thing to be picked up at the ttp the agent when it has uh... it apparently gives ah... within the document it gives the president you'd write now congress has all control over commerce

2:16:28 Well, this transfers it to the president. The executive office... Yeah! Hello? This is hilarious and there was one other guy she ended up with... But John you'll agree with me the document gives nobody nothing it's just an it's still an ongoing conversation I know but it opens the door because if the Congress passes which she doesn't think they will uh you know I think that they're always the executive office just wants to take over the place Yeah, and the Congress has already given up way too much power. This war thing is out of completely out of control this what happens when the president gets to declare war or whatever you want to call these these battles You know on a whim it's just the Congress is just giving up I mean, I don't know what their problem Is they should be that they should be like dominating this situation But they're not there are just a bunch of passive puppies with boys sleeping with little boys and you take pictures of them

2:17:23 uh... that's fine it was kind of interesting i'd like to take us to well by the way from watching this artie network larry king's on and now so yeah no i don't think we have a look at the quote of the year from larry king are accused interviewing somebody says and is the quote node jews like cats wow larry king said that she had her what would you like them for him to Anyway, go on. There are a couple of topics that we broach from time to time on the No Agenda Show that really hit a chord with people and I kind of expected it but not to the degree...I'm only going to read one for you today

2:18:13 uh... adamant i was listening to the latest show and have some insight into how common core will affect college now common cores man we struck it with this one john this is a huge winner this is going to take us through the year he had been in and and it turned out that week yeah we do admire at the high school kids are you guys talking about this was somebody other days like cool kids who listen to this show when they write in, it's always really interesting. Their observations are very unique. The fact that I'm listening to the show and then write in... It warms my heart! They're not slouches? No. So this is a PhD student in engineering mechanics which is basically applied physics with an engineering focus currently researching education ie flipped classrooms and team-based learning In addition to my Ph.D research

2:19:08 Common Core will affect universities. Common Core is being implemented in K-12, something similar is being actually slowly implemented in undergraduate and graduate programs. Universities are now businesses and a business can best maximize profit by maximizing throughput while minimizing quality all the while convincing the public that its product is absolutely necessary for survival! This is good observation because you're seeing the pattern start to form here when uh... you know the president one of his main points of the American dream is, you know besides retiring with dignity is sending your kids to college. All academic standards are being constantly lowered to meet the throughput requirements because the students ie the customers are coming in with less and less ability a college education will still be necessary after all how can you get it did that job without a bachelor of dronedom

2:20:06 Here's the current education climate in colleges and universities. Note that these are current trends, and these trends are slow to take hold because most professors are too lazy to implement them. Some professors do actually care about education. So it gives us some education buzzwords to look out for. TBL which is task-based learning I think. Flipped classroom continuous improvement of course STEM education we knew about that underrepresented minorities, let's see he ends up here. Oh for some reason I'm missing the second half of this and this is no good oh crap well that was really good I really set us up for that to the conclusion I got it all the way to the conclusion which i didn't have for some reason well I ran another one besides the market picture there's a VOC

2:21:06 VOC? I'm gonna do these now, and you have to guess what they mean. VOC... And is this a Common Core thing or is this a marketing thing? No no no, it's just a marketing thing so that you'd find the voice of the customer! You knew this?! No, it's easy to guess once you get into the idiocy of it Oh yeah, not that hard Here's another one What was that one guy always bitching about? It's stuff like that Now, the whole thing is all marketing talk. I don't want to get off track of the Common Core things because i have like all this stuff that I've looked into. Alright go! Yeah okay so it's really Pearson This is what it comes down to. Somebody did send us... you just mentioned this we should probably put in the show notes It's a diagram that shows you all the things that are linked to Common Core now of course common core was really implemented and funded by the Council of Governors

2:22:04 uh... but when you look when you look we really pick it will you really pick up the the curtain and look behind it pearson is really the company that has the most skin in the game and he appears publishing yes so they own uh... while penguin warden popular apprentice on just everybody i mean is a it's a guy can i give my pierce instorey not to be back on how these guys operate please so in the early days of computer business there was always computer books i would come out as always independent computer book uh... company selling computer books you went to the story of the computer books about you know wordstock are all this mold by ten different publishers

2:22:42 And Pearson decided that the best way to go about taking over the business was just buy all the publishers. So they bought everybody, they bought Simon & Schuster, they bought Macmillan, they bought Peach Pit Press, but everybody did it. But the core company that they ran was Q and Q which was out of the Midwest and Q is interesting in one way only, they paid no royalties Q did everything, it's like here is 5 thousand bucks or 10 thousand bucks write me a book and then go away. Everybody else was a normal book publisher they paid whatever royalty 7 to 15 percent so now they owned all the companies and so every company had you know their same bunch of writers working for them So let say Macmillan had a book that they were gonna print and I think Prentice Hall in this group They put a book out about

2:23:35 some product the book starts to sell well and immediately they take and have a guy do the book for Q and put all their publishing PR and all the effort behind there on marketing the cue book right to screw anybody that actually had to be paid royalties right and this would this is the way that I always thought this was actually genius from their perspective because it was just basically, but it was again to screw you know this like let's play the game. Let's be on...let's play this new game we've come up with and so now they're I would believe if wouldn't surprise me in the least that they were right behind this whole scam well so they are there really the guys who are cashing in but as a couple other little organizations that we have to look at one of them being America's Promise Alliance

2:24:24 And this is set up by Colin Powell and his wife. This goes back to, wow this is 15 years old! If you look at the alliance, it's americaspromise.org. And if you look who was involved in this thing let's look at the trustees Let's see, we have Kathy Payne of State Farm Insurance. We have Stacey Stewart of United Way. We have Nicole Anderson of AT&T. We have... let me see I just want to get the names that we all know. Let me go down here

2:25:04 Wow, this list is so incredibly long. The Casey family programs we have George W Bush Institute We have the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network. The Boys & Girls Club of America Voices for National Service Of course the National Governors Association We have the national PTA I'm looking at the partners page And it shows that this one page has 81 showing 81 out of 160 Out of 369 partners all on the level you're mentioning First Bankers, Focused, Firefighters

2:25:43 finance project, Feed the Children, Fidelity Corporation, Ford Foundation, Ford Motor Company Fund. Let's look at the board of directors so of course Alma J Powell who is Colin Powell wife is chair then we have Kathleen Murphy she is the secretary so of course she's with fidelity and we have a General Powell himself then we have Donna and James Barksdale uh... isn't he the next day back james are still so these are all really rich people who all you know want to make the world better and of course they're the ones do it because that their riches overwrite you know this how it works there were two everything we do is right as everything they do is going to be fantastic we should meet we should be thankful privileged in the process and until you look at what you had mentioned a partner page so i found one other partners is

2:26:38 Crayola and they are funding something called the Partnership for the 21st Century Skills. You got to see this thing, I mean this is all that this is connected to teaching your children not how math works but how to apply math in everyday situations ie giving change at the drive-thru So the Strategic Council, which is p21.org Partner for 21st Century Skills You have to look at this John On the Executive Board The President of Lego Education We have Dr. Elizabeth Fogel Of the Walt Disney Corporation We have Robert Lippincott Of course of Strategic Partnerships At PBS

2:27:33 We have, let's see... we have oh of course Kathy Hurley who is a president of Vice President of Education Alliances of the Pearson Foundation. Where you going love? Oh okay Tell her I said hey. We have, let's see what is down here? Crayola of course is on the board here so all these people are all a UNICEF it's just really common sense media oh my god remember those guys? Common sense media No, I'm trying to... Oh! Hold on a second. We did a whole thing on Common Sense Media. Let me find these guys They are the ones that do Didn't they do like ratings or something? It's some let me see what the hell were these guys about we remember we looked into them was another one of those Anyway government tax money goes into this crap it's

2:28:32 billions of dollars, billions of dollars. Just crap! And you wonder why the government spends so much money? I mean... and then Paul, of course all these ex-government guys they can't just leave out their life without getting rich on this crap. Yeah and then we have... They know somebody So Crayola yes the people who make crayons They have launched the creativity as 21st century skill program at the US Department of Education. That by the way is a definition of fascism, when you have the government in bed with The Crayon Company Are you kidding me?

2:29:11 Crayola has teamed up with the National Association of Elementary School Principals, The National Art Education Association and the Partnership for 21st Century Skills P-21 to create... The Champion Creatively Alive Children Program. What the fuck is that? Champion Creatively Alive Children Program! What is that?! If you don't champion dead people or what I dunno what is this? Creativity is a skill that every child needs said Mike Perry, Crayola president and chief executive officer. We started this program asking ourselves what if every principal and teacher championed creatively alive children in their schools? Creatively alive! Okay so it turns out this is also happening uh... in other parts of the world And remember we talked about the number lines and all these crazy concepts It's predominantly the math part

2:30:10 uh... this is now also happening here in gilmore lowlands exact same thing and it's it's really good it's really astounding how far the end of the year they call at the uh... safer liner which is basically number lines has the same names and and and you know it's it's new relations i want to mention a letter from one of our producers that uh... but believe as a female she said When until you talked about SMSG student math study group out of MIT which hold on John I lost you Come back. All right, I completely lost you there Are you still there? No, we're reconnecting Let me see that I lose the stream. Hmm. I don't think so. See he's still appear to be streaming Oh would you like to leave a video message for John no, I'd like you not to interrupt our call Thank you very much crapola

2:31:27 I'll see if he reconnects. Let me see, I can go back and do a little bit more on this... some of the stuff i got in from Common Core. Arnie Duncan who is the Secretary of Education here in the United States of Gitmo Nation. He's backpedaling a little bit about what it what he said about the... It was just urban white moms who were all in a huff and puff about the Creative Core standards Okay, I think you know what happened. You know here's what? I'm thinking happen. I'm thinking well try to call John again that maybe he's in the hotel room and he had bought the Wi-Fi and But he only was cheap so maybe it only bought it until a certain time And they just cut him off oh wow He said says online let me check Skype lady make sure it's all working here

2:32:47 Hello, welcome to Skype Core testing service. She's working. Try again? Doesn't even look like he is online really. Meh! I hope we get him back...I don't mind doing the edit. Hi, after what you've been through.

2:33:47 I think my internet went down. Yeah, we were thinking that you're getting kicked out of the room and you have to check out and the internet just died. Check this guy out! Hey pull a plug on that mofo! Tell me again about the email from our female producer? She said she always wondered why she never could do calculus when she got to college and realized when i told her about SMSG she had the same thing shoveled into this bull crap program which was discontinued and is now she realizes it was uh... who did the ruined it made you think

2:34:23 Awkwardly and you couldn't do calculus. It was a complete disaster it's funny because I got one email from one of our producers who is like, oh, I'm a genius and I can program in 30 computer languages And you're wrong about common core because this is how this is higher level thinking I'm like yeah You are exactly the problem This is exactly what we don't know what the kids need to learn now long division and I don't see how there can be a new system based upon essentially visual memory tricks because i've really been looking at this. A lot of people are sending in, oh I wish you could find this uh... there was one email I got and it was like the question was like what is 47 plus 23

2:35:14 And then the second question... 69 immediately. Yeah, and the question after that was Why did you not get to this by adding 10 plus 41st or something? It's like what?! Yeah right we I got that letter too Do you have do you have that image he sent us there it was like an image That was a part of it. Yeah, yeah, it was insanity! Yes So I'm like wow you know how does this really... People gotta stop this. on that chart and uh well i think what's happening so pearson of course is the big name and then there's a whole bunch of people who are just sitting around in a circle jerk because they're all rich and they all have to fix everything and make it better. And its guys like bill gates because bill and melinda gates foundation are very big into this, I think it's because after the programming guy note i'm like

2:36:22 Yeah, that makes sense. You know a whack job who's really good at programming which by the way I don't think is it a math skill? I think writing code is more Writing than anything It's not no historically historically programmers are always considered failed mathematicians My point you know so but like for some reason we have to teach them this applied math and And it just, you know... I've looked at it. I've had other teachers I know look at and they're like, I have no idea what they are even saying in this thing! What are we teaching these kids? It seems to defy logic and all it does essentially is

2:37:05 Yeah, I think get them ready for some kind of test. But the test may not be... Here's a mathematical problem that tests maybe Pete works at the drive-thru and has to have 15 hamburgers ready by 730. If someone comes up with an EBT card I mean what else could it be John? Yeah, you know make sure to say would you like fries with that and want something to drink. In addition to that... Of course, it's completely removing educators from the equation. They've now become spreadsheet jockeys! I can't point to one single thing because just the deluge of information and videos and documents that is being sent by people is quite astounding And...I think the general consensus is that its all pretty much crap

2:38:03 Well, what's interesting to me is that nobody except this show your no agenda show seems to be discussing it in these terms. I mean nobody! I have not heard anything any critical analysis of this or read anything. We do have a few publishers who've noticed a few things Yeah we got a couple links to look at but nothing really mainstream for sure So whatever, you know yeah here's an interesting one and all this is in the show notes of course 567.nashownotes.com let me see this it's a catchy little title This is actually from the Orlando Sentinel so right down the street from you John Yeah I'll go over there say hi Common Core comments run from great to commie brainwashing

2:38:52 Oh, that's the way to do it. There you go! That's how you accomplish it. What does this accomplish? Nothing Well, no it accomplishes that. It's all the only nut jobs are against this exactly You want to associate associative you take a thing? That's a piece of crap and then you associate the negative input with some nut jobs right And then so you have to accept it because otherwise your nuts job So this is kind of typical mainstream reporting now that I look at this article I recall again Florida's Common Core education standards make for dry reading Yes, dry. Oh boy! But they've created such a fierce political battle...mind you, political battle not about educators or teachers who hate this crap but when the state asks for public comments more than 19000 of them poured in and then they have sampling let's do a little sampling here

2:39:43 No common core period. Our federal government can no longer be trusted, keep everything having to do with schools at the state level. No for the common good. Commie brainwashing wrote a parent." So that's what they start off with so there is your Tea Party nut job Republican with a gun What's more dangerous to a child than a stranger with candy? How about a government subliminally attacking our children with negative reading material in our schools. It is my feeling this is an attempt to attack the minds of our young, to adapt a liberal passive mindset." Stop Common Core as quickly as you can," wrote a resident. Yeah, you're right this is really the extreme stuff. And now on the other side I love Common Core! Please do not bend to political pressure from a small group of non-educators, wrote one teacher

2:40:26 Keep all the Common Core State Standards. This is a true abbreviation, CCSS. Students in Florida need to be held to the same high standards as the rest of United States We want our students to be able to compete in the job market now and in the future Yeah how about the artists? The musicians? The crazy ones! This is exactly what we want our students to do. It is the heart of mathematics instruction, wrote a teacher." And so just to wrap this up for now because we'll get a lot of email... There's this one of these guys who was a part of this who wrote some of these books that are part of this new mathematical applied thinking is a gentleman named James Stewart

2:41:15 Are you familiar with James Stewart? He used to be an actor. Dead now! No, James Stewart made his fortune writing textbooks and this is a great article we have in the show notes in his 18 000 square foot home which is one of the most important homes in North America he's a Candanavian And he wrote one of these books. He's been writing a lot of these books, but it was apparently a bestseller and his house cost 30 million dollars So you know these are the guys that are in on this great Common Core stuff The guy is a textbook writer and he is living in a thirty million dollar house? Yeah Wow I took the wrong road Uh huh All I got was the Silk Road Alright

2:42:15 I think they're about to shut down all your internet, so we should probably... Yeah. Probably not a bad thought. Fuckin' outta here. You're flying back now right? Or in a couple of hours or so? Yep! Okay. I will be leaving tomorrow and I shall arrive tomorrow evening late in Austin Tejas and uh... will be a bus to my little behind to make sure we got some good stuff for sunday i think the common core stuff will continue there's some war on men stuff we gotta talk about internet freedom a lot of activity in africa africa don't forget bullying, don't forget it is also an interesting commercial but actually its news story which turns out to be a butter bowl commercial do you play that as

2:43:01 As end of show clip here? You could, I'll set it up. It's a classic produced commercial that somebody gave to the station and said here you know here is play this but the kicker on this one i have to just give me generally speaking never have anything like this The person who put their name push themselves into this phony package at the end she comes out of it she says you know we went to the store and this is all bull crap The main dish at most Thanksgiving meals. The turkey is the centerpiece, the turkey and the dressing, the turkey and more and more people now want them fresh I like to taste we think it tastes better but fresh turkeys may be harder to find this year especially if you like them large. 10-16 pounds. Manuel Rodriguez of Lucky's supermarket says Butterball the nation's largest Turkey producer

2:43:53 is advising markets around the country to expect fewer fresh birds. We won't know until this week how many we're getting Butterball says it expects to ship about half its usual supply of big birds between now and Thanksgiving The reason? The company says it's tom turkeys, those that are supposed to weigh between 16 and 20 pounds aren't eating. In a statement it says we experienced a decline in weight gains at some of our farms and we are continuing to evaluate the potential causes Some grocers are crying foul This is the Super Bowl of turkey season But not to worry other turkey suppliers say they have their usual fresh stock but butterball does make up 25% of the market

2:44:33 And there should still be plenty of frozen birds out there. Just remember, large turkeys take three to four days to defrost so you better buy them soon! It's not too soon to buy a fresh turkey if kept refrigerated it should stay fresh until the big day. In two or three weeks there is an expiration date on the turkey as long as the customer doesn't open up that nice seal and there shouldn't be any problem. But don't wait too long or you may be out of luck And that has some Thanksgiving cooks pondering some new recipes. I'd probably get like another poultry, um... Like roasted duck So how big a problem is this really? Well today we actually saw fresh turkeys on sale for less than the frozen ones Alright

2:45:15 Yeah, well she actually went out and did the thing- did a follow up and found the whole thing was bogus. I don't know why they ran the package at all Except to promote Butterball! Yeah well they didn't promote Butterball but it but at least they didn't just kill it there and just go on with another story They said this butter ball things may be dubious And by the way Butterball is the worst turkey out there as far as I can tell their tasteless that they stink Get in a Heritage Bird people Well I'm gonna be all alone on Thanksgiving What? First of all, we have the show. Yeah? We always do the show on Thanksgiving right and that Mickey has a huge shoot She's doing in Los Angeles and said hey you know today don't even think about it go oh Yeah, so why'd you fly out to the coast here? You can have dinner with us yeah

2:46:06 I'm not falling for that. No, no, no, no...I've done that one year. You won't let me up into the studio? I'm not interested. Yeah okay well it's gonna stay that way. Alrighty! That's it have a good flight and yeah bullying we got all kinds of stuff Boy, it's been a quick trip. It's been weird doing it late at night but we always do our best to bring you the value for value that you expect and I hope you support that on Sunday's For Sundays show devorak.org slash NA coming to you from a very chilly Gitmo Nation lowlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Gitmo nation mouse ears is very balmy I'm John C. Borack We'll talk again on Sunday right here On NO Agenda

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