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00:00 And she found that she was the spawn of Satan. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 17th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 557 This is no agenda Good morning, the sink bay here in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state. We are at Austin Tate house in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where if you didn't take the garbage out it's too late! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Now there is a train going by. Oh what happens? There he is. Garbage trucks trains. Yeah its the ghetto. Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep

00:44 Hey man, stuff is bad here at the Travis Heights hideout. What happened? Miss Mickey is not well. Oh hold on a second let me close the window Yeah that'll help her Does she feel better now? Let me check yes instantaneous results Now she's got some weird kind of flu, man. This is not good. Oh you guys should have loaded up on vitamin D3 when you had the chance Yeah it's all- but this is a weird one where she has kinda like a semi dry cough Actually It's less like a flu and more like one of your favorite afflictions

01:21 Which is? Spontaneous human combustion. She hasn't blowed up yet! She's getting pretty close, she runs a little fever now and then but then in the middle of the night she'll be like, oh let's just throw off all everything has to go and then she says, oh I'm...everything's too hot everything's too hot And you feel her legs and her body is just like keep the gasoline away Yeah, so I don't know it's a weird kind of flu. It sounds like The doctors one of those could be one of those crazy funguses or something that you have in these desert areas You mean it could be more like a? Valley fever here in California. I have no idea what valley fever is oh he should look it up a lot of Californians and especially people that weren't raised in California and

02:15 can get this thing called valley fever. And it's from the dust that when you have certain times of the year when all the climate changes, blows... Well, climate changes, it changes during the year. Oh okay just a regular climate change yes of course and the wind is all of a sudden blowing out at the Central Valley and brings us these spores into San Francisco Bay Area for example from like Fresno and you get these things in your lungs and next thing you know, you got funguses growing inside ya. And you end up with this flu-like symptoms it's called Valley Fever is really a son of a bitch to get rid off. Yeah well we have Cedar here in Austin which I don't think has hit yet and I know that gets to her but these are different symptoms she'll be okay but... Does she have a fever?

03:04 Yeah, she's running a fever. And she's funny though She really is in bed since Tuesday Is she a good sick person or a grumpy sick person? No, no, she's a great sick person Sometimes that's a plus sometimes she lets it get away from her Some people are bad sick persons Shes really good I feel horrible. I just don't know I feel inadequate Yeah, I just like-I don't know what else i can do. And what's that got to do with this? Yeah thank you heyo However she does say funny things man You mean while hallucinating Yes So she says I have dastardly flu

03:45 I'm like what? Yeah, yeah. It's my and on Facebook my am I one of my doctor friends says the flu I have is dastardly flu And that's it you're so sweet honey You know your European you just never heard of this word because it's not used enough But dastardly flu was not like a version of swine. It's a description It's an adjective and she was all bummed out What I thought I had likes him awesome flue that no one had heard of Like the dastardly Egyptian flu or something and that's what one of her doctor buddies had put in. The whole Facebook thing when she's delirious is kind of interesting because she'd be like, look honey here's a video of dolphins clapping It's sad cause I don't want to laugh at her She's ill Why not? It's pretty bad! It's sad it's bad

04:40 This is no good. The household falls apart immediately, nothing works I don't know what to do Clean the dishes that's what you do? I throw it in the machine and everything just like oh my goodness And we missed out on so many great O-Bot opportunities because we had a whole bunch of things planned Oh that's a shame Yeah like dinner tonight Tonight would have been great because they'd be gloating Yes, yes indeed. They would be gloating and I'm glad you bring that up but first let me thank you for your courage John I want to thank you for your courage Adam This has become the meme du jour on no agenda Yeah We change just two changes from year to year it's weird though this one Just took hold well I think we only use it once or twice on the show and everyone every email I get starts with Thank you for your courage

05:31 and it feels good. I think we need to say this to each other more often just in general life, just in passing. He might as well make everything meaningless you know when I get one of those solicitors on the street the ones that I hate? The opinion solicitors and I'm always pretty good at coming up with you know when they hey would you like... I hate animals! Would you like to save the whales no I hate them. I think I'll start off by oh thank you for your courage See what that does to them. That's a great idea when somebody comes up to you like, hey can I ask you... But i'd rather not! Thank you for your courage but I'd rather not which is kind of like a veiled threat at the same time. I like it. I'm not from these parts

06:21 Today is the stored Monday, I guess. Maybe no maybe when did this go into effect? It's so hard to tell anymore with just we're gonna get to this to the shutdown bullcrap which of course as predicted right on time in then in the nick of time with the same script that Boehner used on The what was it the last time we had some crisis It was the same thing. He couldn't get the vote and then he, the plan B didn't work. Yeah. Boehner's just playing along with the Tea Party guys to show them that they can't win. He plays the game! I think Boehner is doing a pretty good job of it. The 11th... They passed as great- Did you see the thing where they- Oh, I didn't clip it. I should have clipped it. The Republicans slipped one through on the Democrats which has irked the hell out of a couple of em'. Where you can't bring anything to the House uh, to the floor unless its preapproved by Boehner

07:16 Well, you know we talked about that on the last show. Did we? I don't remember yeah but it only pertained to this crisis Yeah well not just a crisis but the Obamacare funding of the crisis quote-unquote crisis there was only two one little bit But really when you look at the whole I mean here's the analysis explain before we go no this is exactly. I'm gonna set you up for this because I know what you're gonna say The analysis that yeah, I think I do I think it's almost been six years John come on I know every nook and cranny of your body honey. I know exactly where you're coming from I resent Okay

07:58 The analysis that no one has given is how the process actually works and who was really holding up who. And I don't know anyone better than our very own constitutional law professor John C. Dvorak, the C stands for cash, who can explain the process and why it's always been in the Senate from day one not the House of Representatives? Yeah, no that's true I had no, they didn't intend that. Then i wanted to do the wrap-up that I recorded No you can get to that but you have to explain what it is first because people don't understand how their government works To simplify...I'm not really in the mood to do this but I'll tell you this to simplify all money that is spent by the government is called out by Congress. Congress is the holder of the purse strings and they do a lot of stuff

08:48 We got to stop at this because this is the power of the purse which I think is section 1 article article one section 8, I believe from the Constitution. You don't have the constitution in front well the constant the Constitution specifically states that the House of Representatives can decide which pieces of the government to fund and I believe that is In particular their their function if it is a taxation right? Well, yeah. Specifically they're the ones who find ways to get the money and how to spend it They're the ones who say here's what we got Here is the money that we've got here is where were going to spend it Generally speaking its called The Budget And the Congress you know the House and Senate work together on this at some point even though the House has supposedly supposed to do most of the work and the Senate is supposed to be a rubber stamp

09:34 And then the president has to sign off on it or not sign off. He doesn't have to sign it and if he doesn't sign like this what happened this time they had a budget, It was fine and they had decided to just leave the Obamacare funding out which is fine too They can do that has been done before but everyone went through all of the law of the land Now let me ask you question The way I understand it is they can pass this on they can pass on a bill about motorcycle rear tires the Senate can take that bill rip it all out they have the right to do that and put in anything they want which they've done in the past. They could, they could have written their own law, their own bill, but they still could have done that at any point. They could have passed any piece they wanted to. Any piece! But there's still...but at the end of the day the two houses have

10:24 approved the final product. Right, okay so you can do it if you want but I'm saying it's not just one side that is keeping stuff up No Dave the house had done a bill was completed It was weeks and weeks ago way before the shutdown And it was pretty much the budget with what everybody kind of wanted But they went...it had one thing in there which said were not going to pay for this Obamacare thing which was not an unusual thing. If people had read my news or your newsletter that was done in... Oh, it's okay! It is your newsletter now. Well I see the writing on the wall yeah. That is how it always starts

11:05 Yeah, right. So anyway the newsletter has a link to a very good column by Saul Yes I actually put it in the show notes under Shutdown Very good to read it's very simple and they had the bill written but Obama wasn't going to buy into this. And he apparently, he called their bluff essentially. Obama said I'm not even gonna talk it's my way or the highway which is what the Republicans always said But you know what? He did! He saved the world! So now everyone thinks he was a big hero when in fact he was a divider Yes and he's a fighter not a lover and he saved the world

11:49 He saved the world John, he pulled us back from the brink once again. Save the world. Yeah, the guy's amazing I you know me and like I like to go read these things so this is a God that's got to be the worst HR 2775 well of course they slipped a lot of things in here Oh yeah in fact I Know that's what they always do but there was a big one here from Mitch McConnell Yeah, Mitch McConnell snuck up beauty in or liked it like a two billion dollar Increase in some damn project in his in his hometown or whatever Uh, which and but the way they did it is so that it wouldn't look like he slipped it in. The deal they made is that Pelosi and Reid

12:32 said no, no we put that in because if we canceled out that project it would cost the American taxpayer like a hundred and six million dollars so or we couldn't have that. So you know what was a seven hundred million dollar project with now up to like a 2.9 billion dollar project? So I think McConnell he was really good at this! He got exactly what he wanted any had and he had the top Democrats admit they put in a shilling for him yes is great These guys are such a-holes. Grade A, number one top of the class douchebag! In fact I got a douche bag of them. It's unbelievable what this show comes down to is just money for their own crap You want to you're reading this guy? I want you to answer this question. All right there was a bunch of this... The shutdown

13:25 Cost the American it cost Americans 25 billion dollars to shut down. Yeah, that's just numbers being thrown No one can quantify you lay everybody off in a bit you got a building right? It's It costs so much to run it. You fire everybody in the building and shut the power off, now you're costing more than if you were running the building? No I know... This is what people fall for with this bullcrap numbers. I'm not falling for it! No no, you're not people. I'm telling ya why does this do- where does this come from?! Because because it's a lie In fact, right at the top here, section 115 of the settlement ensures furloughed employees are compensated and ratifies obligations made during the shutdown similar to language used in past shutdowns. Past shows they should say so as you predicted it was a nice paid vacation maybe it was a little unnerving because you know you sit home like crap man what's gonna happen I'm not going to support the no agenda show I got to save my money

14:26 So there was some of that, but now everyone gets back pay. The effective date for this joint resolution is backdated! This is one of my favorite things... They backdate it to October 1st I guess that makes all the- Oh that's got to be a financial thing. There's an authorization for the Food For Peace Act which I haven't gotten into but it looks like lot of fun Extends authority for activities to counter the Lord's resistance army and non-conventional assisted recovery Okay, now there was a hundred guys For the Lord's resistance army last time we were told about it This is the whole Kony thing. And so now this it... We had to put this into forgot about him Yeah, we had to put this clause in for 100 guys that stinks So you know do we have to look into that?

15:23 Let's see, what else was annoying? There were a lot of just annoying things. Extends authority for the chemical facilities anti-terrorism standards program... There are a lot of new things that come in here! It's a lot of crap. This is, this is... Listen, extend... Yeah I wish someone would start dissecting this. Well I am! This what you do best. You've got to just every day we should pound on this there's tons of crap like this in there so they wasted everybody's time put everyone through a ringer made everyone fret and made the old ladies worry about their pensions and all the rest for this crap that they put together with all these bullshit things in there like the Kony 2012. Listen listen to this

16:03 Extends... this is a good one, now this is a payoff right here. Extends authority for the Secret Service to apply proceeds from undercover investigations In other words if the Secret Service... Hookers! Find you with a hooker and some counterfeit bills they can put both into service for them. Extend authority for quote other transaction contracting agreements for the Department of Homeland Security Yeah no that's not suspicious It's, you know this is these things are oh have you ever heard of COLA? I had to look this one up. Prohibits COLA for members of Congress or fiscal year 2014. I'm like wow man that's harsh they can't even have a coke but apparently COLA... That's right it's their salary increase

16:58 Yeah, they gotta get that. No they don't it prohibits prohibit good yeah so that's time yeah that's a good thing find some other scam notice They're not gonna starve to death these guys no no So Let me just right here there is let me just roll out I got three things and I want you to wrap it up And I want to start by saying one thing I am of the belief how is that for performative? I am I do believe I am of the belief systems that I want my state representative in you know arguing for my state so this is a good thing and I'm not necessarily against

17:42 A lot of these things that are put in here, you know Mitch McConnell good on you man You got three billion dollars for your state and yeah Whatever project your boys your boys now and good on that's whatever is going. That's good on good Anya good Anya I don't see anything for Texas in here so but I'm okay with well That's your that's your Ted Cruz guy. Yeah, it sucks But they don't see anything in here either way that guys getting on my nerves. Yeah, no Didn't he say he was going to the White House? He thinks is gonna be president or something. That'd be funny Yes, he has the same chance as Rick Santorum. He is not an appealing person no he's condescending he's pompous

18:24 So what I don't like is all these federal programs and you know stuff for the Secret Service and Homeland Security that is unspecified now to go and figure out what that Is. That part, I find extremely annoying. I'm okay with your state's representatives trying to get What's best for your state because at the end of the day we're not a country We're not united. I live in Texas man! I saw bumper sticker the other day Y'all can go to hell And I'm gonna go to Texas so it's exactly right Here's two quick things. Now I want you to hear how this was being for people, this is 30 seconds for people who do not live in the United States of Gitmo Nation and as this was coming down to the wire as they were trying to scare people and then of course if you listen to No Agenda Show you just sat back and relaxed and you knew that it would all get taken care of at the last minute as happened as promised

19:21 Here's MSNBC. This is Thomas Roberts, this is how he talks to...this is Marsha Blackburn I think she must be a Republican about the shutdown and it was just not okay. When it comes to Obamacare do you hate Obama care more than you love your country? I gotta tell ya something, I think that comments like that that you are making are just incredibly inappropriate what we have to have to realize it's incredibly hard to shut down our government and take all the hostages of Americans that you've taken. No, no, it is not inappropriate because you've taken the government hostage through a shutdown and all the American people are now walking them into a cliff economy and they're going to push them over one by one based on the fact that you don't like the ACA! That's all it is. You don't like the Affordable Care Act. Listen to yourself. Yes yes I mean she's right

20:21 What do you like these guys on MSM this is why this network is starting to fall apart oh yeah no that's dumb. This is not entertainment, you're just propagandizing people or even dumb people. At least on Fox when they propagandaize you it's entertaining yes and they've got better looking legs and this guy got no legs well yeah here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz who said a to me an unbelievable thing On the Morning Joe show again MSNBC and she was there with Peter King. I guess she was in the studio, Peter King was on The Remote Box. Peter King's Republican right? I'm gonna guess...I can't remember yeah he's like a douche they're both douches. Yeah one of the worst he's also the biggest Muslim bait-er so Debbie Wassum yes Debbie Wassam and Schultz

21:09 She is in charge of the Democratic Party. She's the chairperson and she said something I found to be very interesting, although right in line with MSNBC viewers who love this idea. You brought up a concept that you've been talking about with Republican women Tell Peter and let's see if he agrees So how this could be solved? So Peter If we put all the women Republican and Democrat in the house together The consensus from all of us is that we would get this done in a few hours. Cedar? So, she just said if it was up to the women then uh we'd have this done in a few hours you think yeah it's a sexist pig thing to say yeah

21:54 But this is a meme. This, by the way was not only her saying it there was a bunch of people saying this meme came out and then when they when the thing was finally finished in the Senate because Susan Collins was involved along with that woman from Alaska to women they took credit as women for doing this and so this has become kind of a meme that the women if we elect more women, this is just obviously you know an attempt to get more women elected. If we elect more women who won't have these problems because these men which brings me to another point that I'll be making later in the show. Okay bookmarked that Peter King did it had a good comeback he was ready for it oh

22:36 I don't know. I think you should put Sarah Palin in there also, and that would really... Let's make a hot looking woman from Alaska as the brunt of this joke! What do you say to that Debbie Wasserman Schultz? You know, I would argue that even if Sarah Palin were in the room we could find a way to get through it. You're all douche knuckles. So let's and by the way, I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope I pray I Pray to my god Lucifer that Hillary Clinton becomes president. I cannot wait How much coffee have you had today?

23:28 I've only had one cup because... God, James. Why? Do i need to calm down? You're wild wound up! Well, I'm excited because there's all kinds of stuff that I can ask you about, you know it's fun. Play the crisis rap so we can get rid of this topic. Well, I don't know if we're going to get rid of it. Under the Budget Control Act this is far less than many of us had hoped for frankly But it's far better than what some had sought. The framework came from a bipartisan group of 14 senators led by Republican Susan Collins of Maine This great country deserves a Congress that can govern

24:08 And that was the unifying theme of our group. The agreement they worked out funds government operations for three months at reduced spending levels already in place, and it raises the debt ceiling through February 7th. The deal also calls for a congressional panel to negotiate a long-term deficit reduction package and it requires that Americans verify incomes to qualify for subsidies under the new health care law. That was the sole section related to Obamacare after Republicans spent weeks trying to block or delay parts of the law. Last month Texas Senator Ted Cruz, a leading Tea Party conservative filibustered over the issue today he said he'd vote no but would not try to delay action I have no objections to the timing up this vote in the reason is simple

24:58 There's nothing to be gained from delaying this vote one day or two days. The outcome will be the same, every senator and every member of the House is going to have to make a decision where he or she stands." Arizona Republican John McCain meanwhile had opposed the shutdown and he voiced relief today. I think it's obvious that we are now seeing the end of this agonizing odyssey this body has been put through but far more importantly the American people have been put through. It's one of the more shameful chapters that I have seen in the years that i've spent here in the Senate. No please, every year you've been in is shameful. He is the definition of shameful, that guy right there. That guy horrible. What an idiot and

25:46 Of course this will only take us to what, February 1st I think? Yeah so it's like to be continued. We'll do a whole new- there'll be series 5 episode one all over again exclusively on... if they could just move it to Netflix And just take it off cable news so we don't... You know, if you're trading stocks. Here he goes. Screw stocks! Mitch McConnell got two billion dollars for his state! You want more action not less? No no yes okay that's for the peons in the game John but the real players because make no mistake Harry Reid State also benefits from this damn yeah The real players are in construction yo Yo

26:31 Yo, I'm sorry. That's a breaking bad thing. I can't-I have to stop doing that. Yeah, I'd say so here's my so all right hold on a second all right Let me explain every six to eight weeks seven or eight weeks but I made it rain early Mickey and I have a massage we have masseuse come to the house whoa she's actually a there goes the donations yeah right so you must be having a hair cutter come to the house too? no, so its six or eight weeks

27:09 a makeup artist show up before you go to dinner with the bots? She answers the phones at Mickey's chiropractor office and moonlights doing massage. Do you wear makeup yourself when you visit ObamaBots? No. You put a little makeup on, a little powder? No! What does this have to do with the massage?! I figured you'd have the makeup artist come over and a bunch of lights... No! ...and people directing... I carry her bed in from the trunk of her Honda. Okay. This is not like a hot... Oh she spends the night!? I don't know if a massage person is... Oh, never mind. I'll just drop the subject. She by the way is very funny she's from New Zealand and she's been here six years she just recently got divorced conveniently after her five-year period of having a green card but she's a New Zealand girl and you know and she finds it very hard to understand

28:14 In New Zealand in general, I'm going to generalize. Women who have casual sex because they want it and it makes them feel good are seen as independent strong-willed women. In America they're seen as sluts. Sluts and whores! And so she was like, I don't understand this... No, I'm sorry that was my John Lennon. I can't do with the New Zealand accent It's not that easy. No it's not, she said its really hard to understand because you know in New Zealand you know its very normal to have a nail and bail or a fucking chuck and she is rolling out all these... I'm like whoa! A what? A nail and bail or a fucking chuck. A nail and bail?! I know so anyways she tells these stories and shes very entertaining, shes really really funny

29:03 And then I said, but what do you want to be when you grow up? You know what her answer was a massage therapist. Scaffolding! She wants to be... and like scaffolding that makes sense this is why this comes back to the construction she says right now in New Zealand because of the big earthquakes they had I remember the really big one in Christchurch and surrounding area, and they've had a couple of follow-ons. The government has all scaffolding in place... there's no more scaffolding in New Zealand so no one can build anything because all the scaffoldings been slurped up by the government and is outside of you know government buildings etc. And she's like this is the business! And morons can put it together. I'm like...I'm IN!

29:56 The Curry-Dvorak Investment Group hedge fund are in. Scaffolding! Anyway, onward... Sorry about the sidetrack Obama as he announced this deal threw out the largest performative I have ever seen him give which I wanted to share. And as you know, we have learned from performatives that when a politician most likely but anyone is about to give you a load of crap and is going to purposely lie but without lying because he only is referring back to the performative that he uses right then it's pretty much all bullcrap and it's a lie. So if...I'll give an example please in fact let me say this

30:41 About that exactly you've done it already so you're just saying something You're not you can't say stating anything is true or a even as a break for the law And then so everything after that refers to what I just said which is let me see this about that Everybody's crazy. I mean and then you can right it's got nothing to do with anything No, what'd you say? So the the president so the lie is that he wants to work with everybody and he'll do anything necessary And he wants to help the people and so save the children and you know make the world a better place That's the lie but he sets it up beautifully with actually a Bill Clinton esque performative immediately

31:17 And we can begin to lift this cloud of uncertainty and unease from our businesses and from the American people. I'll have more to say about this tomorrow, and I've got some thoughts about how we can move forward in the remainder of the year and stay focused on the job at hand because there's a lot of work ahead of us... Stand by! ...including our need to earn back the trust of the American people that has been lost over the last few weeks And we can begin to do that by addressing the real issues that they care about. Alright, so here it comes! Get ready... I've said it before and I'll say it again Wow! That's a Clinton one! That's what Reagan even said! I'm willing to work with anybody. I am eager to work with anybody Democrat or Republican House or Senate members

32:09 on any idea that will grow our economy, create new jobs strengthen the middle class and get our fiscal house in order for the long term. Bullshit! So clearly you don't mean that I said it before i'll say it again please That's so insulting At this point that's just insulting to the no agenda audience Oh yeah for our group understands And then of course we had something crazy happen And I knew it was going to happen. I knew something, I knew something was up. The signs were everywhere when Senator Barb... What's her name again? McCluskey? McCluskey. Senator Barb this old bag of wind throws out not once not twice but three times as is perfect for the magic number! Thank you very much Mr President. Uh i rise then to speak

33:06 for approximately 10 minutes. Objection Mr President, we're 33 hours away from the possible default of the United States of America on its debt obligations. We're 33 hours away from the possibility of the United States of America becoming a deadbeat nation, not paying its bills to it's own people and other creditors." When do I get my bills paid by my own government? Wait, one more! One more. We're 33 hours away. He just doesn't stop. So the code was important because there was a bond trade that you could have made because just before they passed all this stuff...I was watching Bloomberg and there was some guy on one of the trading desk guys and he had this computer up and showed this spike

34:08 on one of these, there was some bond in particular that would have been the way he said this is the bond that'd be most affected so it collapsed because if the government defaulted supposedly even though we know wouldn't really done anything but if there was some situation occurred this was the one bond that would have not been paid out and right after she dropped her 33-33-33, if you had gone or actually if you'd gone short on that bond and then gone long on that bond within a one hour period. You would have probably made about 5 to 10x your money. Wait a minute how did you hear about this? And more importantly why did we not act on this? This is the problem that the two of us have

34:54 Cash flow? We're really good at Monday morning quarterbacking, sitting on the couch. Sitting on the chaise lounge. You know we could have made a lot of money on that one! Fuckers we could have been in on that! Yeah this is quite the problem Yes Well I took it differently although i appreciate that analysis and if there's any links I can throw into the show notes at 557.nashownotes.com I'd love to do that and maybe you can send me something So yeah, we've got a lot of smart people who listen who might be able to figure something out and help you know get us in early. Well there's another opportunity coming up at the end of the year where this will all play out again and it'll be a couple investments that you can turn around real fast You gotta be on your toes so you can't be sitting around...you can't be working...can't be watching C-SPAN or something...at McDonalds

35:45 Yeah, I didn't expect to actually pull this off. But if you're sitting at the terminal you could probably make some serious money really fast. I've always thought that if I gave up everything I do and only focused on like a level two screen and I just sat at home and really played...I've always thought I could do it! Have you ever felt that you could really do it? If you just did nothing else People can do it. A friend of mine actually does it he used to be a publisher and he used to have all these you work for a living and now all he does is day trade yeah, but essentially It's like I think I must have brought this up before it's like the guy knew that use me in HP engineer I knew him pretty well years ago And he was a professional poker player and he says even the most mediocre player

36:27 typically and most poker players professional poker's players make about a hundred twenty five thousand dollars a year playing poker all the time. The problem is you have to be playing poker all the time right? You're essentially just professionally playing poker all the time and that's the same thing with this, this doesn't sound like a lot of fun for 125 if it was 125 million yeah I could see doing it but for just Because you like playing poker, you can make $125,000 he says. And I think the guy who's playing the stock market is probably doing okay but it's not a fun thing to do." Yeah but at the same time... This show is more fun! Oh no this show was a lot more fun even if we don't make poker money But if I was playing the market You're kind of doing a little bit

37:20 of what we do for the show anyway. You can do a little bit of that, but since the market's rigged is what everybody who plays in the market tells you it makes it difficult unless your kind of part There's some scheme or you're, you know in the mob and you're part of a pump-and-dumper You know are you get some sort of insight inside? Are your part of Congress? Yeah. Yeah, I Know Annie Duke she used to live near us in When we lived in Los Angeles And I had her up to the house a couple times because she'd released books about yeah, I had The Big Book Show I was doing it actively and uh yeah and i always looked at her because she was one of these people she just plays poker in fact she started the poker league, I believe. I have no idea where that is you know the whole idea is to sell television rights or control rights over poker playing on tv and you know she's...she has the potential to be super hot but she just looks ragged from the poker play. It's just look at her go like girl you know

38:21 She was, you know, she's got some real potential but... Room sitting on your butt. And her butt was the thing that was the biggest problem! Like you gotta get off of that butt girl. Damn No, that's not a business I'd want to be in Anyway, I took this 33 as a warning for something weird to happen and boy did it ever right near the end of this vote. I want to show you the comments from the president also... This is from C-SPAN You may have seen at the very end of the vote that a woman came to the dais and was speaking The mics were off those mic are controlled by the house radio & TV gallery The microphones were off but here's reporting of Jamie Dupree from Cox Radio on that issue He says one of the house stenographers had to be taken off the floor

39:05 after getting up and screaming during the vote. We'll update that story as we are. So I look at this, and i have two pieces of audio to play... And they don't match up which is the infuriating thing there was a an NPR reporter who-I guess he has his own control over things? Because he started tweeting a SoundCloud file. He says, oh my god I recorded this woman's crazy rant so first i'll play the audio the real the wild audio where the, what do they call it? The Madam President is gaveling this woman to get her to try and shut up. So she's just hammering away and this lady's yelling you can't really hear what she's saying but the audio that the

38:21 She was, you know, she's got some real potential but... Room sitting on your butt. And her butt was the thing that was the biggest problem! Like you gotta get off of that butt girl. Damn No, that's not a business I'd want to be in Anyway, I took this 33 as a warning for something weird to happen and boy did it ever right near the end of this vote. I want to show you the comments from the president also... This is from C-SPAN You may have seen at the very end of the vote that a woman came to the dais and was speaking The mics were off those mic are controlled by the house radio & TV gallery The microphones were off but here's reporting of Jamie Dupree from Cox Radio on that issue He says one of the house stenographers had to be taken off the floor

39:05 after getting up and screaming during the vote. We'll update that story as we are. So I look at this, and i have two pieces of audio to play... And they don't match up which is the infuriating thing there was a an NPR reporter who-I guess he has his own control over things? Because he started tweeting a SoundCloud file. He says, oh my god I recorded this woman's crazy rant so first i'll play the audio the real the wild audio where the, what do they call it? The Madam President is gaveling this woman to get her to try and shut up. So she's just hammering away and this lady's yelling you can't really hear what she's saying but the audio that the

39:56 That the NPR guy recorded doesn't have any of the gaveling in it. So here's the wild audio first I'm sorry, this is actually the the wild audio It sounds like she's no longer in the In the house it sounds like she's in the hallway and her name is supposedly Denise But I think someone calls her Molly at some point No, it would not have been Constitution would never be written by Freemasons They go against God You cannot serve two masters You cannot serve two masters Praise be to god Lord Jesus Christ

40:52 I'm thinking she got one of those emails about Satan or something. Wife swappers, yeah. Refuses to take part So this is not the same audio as what happened here This has nothing to do with the 33rd. I'm telling you that the 33 was a coded message for people to go along No no, I am already there. I'm just saying that something happened and we've moved on We've moved on from being at 33 Well I don't see... so some crazy woman Well hold on a second Hold on a second, you can't just pass this off as some crazy woman. According to what the official report is she's a stenographer who has been there for many years and this is supposed to be her we don't know that for sure

41:38 because now apparently someone's name is Molly and she's yelling about you know the Freemasons didn't write the constitution they would never do that you can't I mean she's obviously going off in a atypical manner and this is the wild sound which I thought it sounded like people were yelling aloha bar quite honestly. I see now we're hammering her out All right now she's getting hauled off so it is clearly not the same recording at all No, this is something else but you're right. The other one was done in the hall Yeah She went to the hallway where they could put him thinking Mica or has stick a mic interface and then she Continued her rant in the hallway We have no idea what the premise was because I would have been on the floor of the Congress She's just bitching moaning about some Well

42:49 You think that she was triggered by some, uh... Some you know some code word next thing you know she's gone nuts? She was talking to a couple guys. Uh looked like she was talking to members of the house and then she, I mean if you look at the video you can see it. She's talking to some guys and she walks over...she walks right up and just starts yelling! You can hear if you really listen you can hear some things but we're not sure all that this is what she was yelling about this could be two separate incidents but it shouldn't be just what- you can't just pass over that when you have a woman shot to death, an unarmed mom shot to death outside because oh she's crazy

43:28 You know, and why didn't they shoot her to death? Why don't we have a big ceremony right now thanking the Sergeant in Arms for protecting them from the crazy lady. Another unarmed crazy lady! Another unarmed mom Yeah why don't we have that you can...why is this just being glossed over I don't think that's appropriate i'd like to know what's happening yeah and because yes I am concerned about the drugs people are being prescribed And I think, I'm on the Abilify tip now. I think Abilify is the one that's pushing people over the edge. Yeah man because it's always an additive drug so you don't take Abilify by itself from what i can tell Well at parties you can What? At a party? Yeah if your partying just pop in Abilify babe yeah its good The only difference is for the first time in three attempts this was not a black person

44:28 Which is another thing that's just not being discussed and I'll bring it up here. It's crazy that no one just says it. Another black guy! So we've had the black guy navy yard shooter, we've had the black unarmed mother who was not shooting anything but was killed. Oh by the way whose lawyer was arrested and so Miriam Carey's sister has been denied custody of her sister's 14 month old girl. She can't get that. The family lawyer said oh this is not over yet boom next day he's arrested on like bankruptcy charges and is thrown in jail

45:26 Yeah, yeah none of this is weird at all and you know but so then final oh And normally crazy people are white rednecks if we just want to stereotype and generalize From the south with AR 15s. So what what is going on? And why is no one saying, you know Hey, this is interesting This is not the typical profile it's not a sovereign citizen doing this It's people who are probably likely to have been on a number of... Abilify. Abilify, yes! And in the neighborhood of God knows what kind of external factors which could be radio waves or whatever so this lady was white but we don't know anything this will pass we will not hear a single thing and I find that uncharacteristically annoying of the press

46:23 No, you don't. Yeah I do. It's very characteristically annoying. Hmm no doesn't seem uncharacteristic at all look at how they blew up all the yes They've blown up all these other stories and now this one is just oh that's what they do hum yeah Okay, they've been doing that Hello since we started to show him before actually he's been doing it since the 1920s. Yeah, it was true well Then only there yes, if you fell off your chair or something no no You crap out rather have stories like this Like what? Man over here's sad tale in diner secretly pays for meal. When one mystery diner in Boston restaurant overheard a mother and daughter get some bad news, he took out pen and scribbled this note to his waiter do me favor bring me their check too someone just got diagnosed don't tell them the waiter impressed by customers active

47:20 Oh boy. Yeah, that's the kind of story we want. Oh now you know... hold on a second now I have to find this thing oh god. Story of the day? No no no this

48:02 This is the story of the day. Hold on a second Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine That's the jingle version here's the full sound bite Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine that's according to a study from Connecticut College research Researchers found that eating Oreos activated more neurons in the pleasure center of rats brains than exposure to cocaine. In the pleasure center? What is she thinking of her own pleasure center when she's doing this read? In the pleasure center! Or morphine... You trying to get a job in Hollywood with this act? I don't know man. Like most humans, rats like to eat the Oreo cookies creamy middle first

48:45 Oh Man yeah, can you believe that you just read that? Yeah. You did you really did sorry to say now That's are you there cuz you've been cutting out a little bit I didn't think so. I have a feeling we got to check Bull crap! Clip of the day Oh, thank you Well is it the question is is it the long clip or the short clip that is? The middle part that's a good clip of the day because this is bull crap Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine I love how she says it

49:23 Yeah, I know she's got a lot of enthusiasm. She's like yeah i'm really enthusiastic about the cocaine business! But she's obviously got something going on. Carol CNN Kind of a evergreen submission. I'm going to this gonna be new part of the show at least from my perspective for my side Here things that I think should be evergreen clips and then I'm gonna present them to you to either approve or Disapprove, or put in the Evergreens and never use again which is typically what happens but plot try this evergreen submission Okay, this'll be interesting. This is information the world needs to know! It's beyond the law... You still think it's just a little website? Yeah, okay. This is about-this is The Fifth Estate. This is something the world needs to know! You know, Julian Asange is pissed off about this movie

50:21 Oh my goodness hold on I have it one more time okay well we'll put it into the evergreens. This is information the world needs to know! He's beyond the law, you still think its just a little website? Yeah he was pissed off Good for him. Let me think, I've got to see what this...I have two clips. This movie's got to be a hilarious kind of parody or i don't know, I'm sure it's filled with government propaganda Here's uh well here's what he had this- It's a two parter really here's the first part where he's being interviewed by George Stephanopoulos for ABC and Stephanopoulos even sets it up

51:06 Well, uh hold on I think it's this one. This is what we need The fifth estate is being distributed by touchstone pictures a division of abc's parent company disney and with that There you go That says at all continue the debate We turn live to julian assange who joins us from the ecuadorian embassy in london And I wonder is he still at the ecuadorian embassy? Is he or is this point just a bookcase and his house somewhere in his bunker wherever he's living You think they could have snuck him out somehow Well, I'm sure they get him out once in a while. and with genuine concerns about the nature of the script being used in that film. He's reported to have said to Vogue and to The Guardian that he had fights with a director who wanted to present me as a quote, cartoon baddie. That's Mr. Cumberbatch' words

52:19 I don't want to put words into his... This is where Julian Assange, by the way jumps the shark. ...words into his mouth but of course he's under a contract and it is limited to what you can say in the film. I do know that he tried to ameliorate some of the worst elements of the script but unfortunately with limited success What's your biggest complaint? What's your biggest complaint with the films? Well, I don't know where to begin. We released the whole script well before this happened There was no approach to us by DreamWorks in any formal capacity whatsoever other than an informal approach by Benedict Cumberbatch just days before shooting began

53:04 This is a film that is based upon my life's work the work of my organization. We have people in extremely serious situations Sarah Harrison now so he is he is now He say he's about to say that they're irresponsible filmmaking, which is hello pot kettle callings like this Is the guy who's the radical? Whistleblowing, publishing... you know get everyone out in the open. Now he's being screwed by the system and his girlfriend which is Sarah Harrison now they're gonna keep coming back to Sarah Harrison which I think Stephanopoulos is poking because it's pretty well known that Sarah Harrison came in as an intern. Assange started giving her the special wiki stick and she became like, you know, the senior legal counsel at WikiLeaks and she apparently is now with Snowden in Russia

53:57 Or wherever she's hiding out. And I think that Stephanopoulos' job here is to... Binder! No, to tweak Julianne's nipples about this because she's kind of hot Being with Snowden. The possibility that she's nailing and bailing with Snowden. Yes, yes! We have a company that was Snowden out of Hong Kong now effectively in exile in Russia because of the terrorist investigation here Jeremy Hammond an alleged media source to 25 organizations including ours And no one cares we're gonna go back to Sarah Harrison this is what George will do Up for sentencing under a month time

54:33 an ongoing grand jury investigation that what are the responsibilities for ethical filmmaking? Oh, responsibilities for ethical filmmaking. They made a movie about me! It's not fair it's all my hard work and they're making all the money in that context none of the suggested changes that we sent to participant media I didn't get a writer credit. And now let's twerk his nipple about Sarah. A rich organization that is... He's trying to get in there, but the satellite delay is messing with him. You mentioned Sarah Harrison as you said it was a rich organization DreamWorks It's making a lot of money and tries to make a lot of money from this process But none of them has made any contribution

55:40 our defense fund to the defense fund of our leg sources and so on. Let me move onto Sarah Harrison as you said she's with Edward Snowden we saw Edward Snowden this week receive an award from four American whistleblowers now he is also going to throw this in his face hey how is that award you've gotten oh I'm sorry, you don't have any awards and listen he takes the bait You can hear him being spiteful. So basically he's saying, so your girlfriend was over there during the awards ceremony with Ed Snowden?

56:23 Hey, how do you feel about it? Yeah he's been a lot of time with him. Yes! He is in exile with him. What is he doing with them anyway what do you think? Nothing is going on between those two. Protecting his human rights no. Next for him and for Sarah Harrison Edward Snowden is safe we through a lot of work particularly by Sarah Harrison managed to gain asylum in Russia after our attempts to gain him asylum in South America were thwarted in a very bizarre manner by the State Department, by denying... by cancelling his passport while he was in Moscow. I'm sorry that's bullcrap but okay we've debunked that. So he is safe? He's working to

57:07 educate people, the journalists involved in these disclosures as to what is going on. He very rightly received that award from a former NSA CIA FBI and DOJ whistleblowers Hear what he's doing here. He's like oh yeah, no he's clearly Oh yes now that's fine. He received that award from the whistleblowers That was right on yeah I get nothing I Get no money awards come out. I get nothing and my girlfriend is screwing with this other It's a serious matter it's a threat to us democracy and to democracy more broadly in the West to have a surveillance apparatus of

57:51 on every single person that would have been the dream of East Germany. Yeah, and meanwhile he's screwing my girlfriend! This is not okay you watch this is this is you watch I guarantee you they're about to stick it to him What's there to watch we could see coming down Broadway? But it's so much fun because like Sarah Harris and she's she's hot She's a hot babe. She has her moments of she's probably a lot of fun. I bet she looks like a fun girl And then ultimately, uh, i've discovered probably has a new zealand frame of mind about these things you think? Yeah nail and bail maybe she's into scaffolding who knows Here's so here's the final advice that I had to take away from this interview You and I are doing it all wrong john

58:41 If you want to, I mean... We-I think we challenge our government twice a week at least. We challenge the narrative, we challenge the story, we do research, we really work on trying to uncover what is going on Our problem is that were doing it in America This where were stupid Well, I would leave this embassy. It's a bit of a prison in some way but I have good people here. But where would I go to? You know, I would end up in the outside world

59:21 where you are. Yeah, this is where we are John the outside world it's very horrible here What is happening to the outside world? That's a much bigger consideration It was a bigger consideration for me and my staff and the 12 different legal actions We have going in different countries But its consideration for everyone What type of place is Western democracy going to be? Is it going to be a place with a collapsing rule-of-law? Oh, yes. With massively... Oh yeah. ...populations all the Where's that siren? I can't find it. Where is that siren coming from? It's outside his cabin where he's suffering from cabin fever. Does that sound like a British siren to you? Yes, yes it does. Of totalitarian regime we don't yet have a totalitarian regime but we have all the getting pretty close into practical elements Is going to cross over into something else now let's hear about the people who really know how

1:00:15 blow things open. It's not us, because we're in America! That would be a hard place for an investigative organization like WikiLeaks To work in it is a hard place for Glenn Greenwald. He's now an effective exile in Brazil effective exile in Britain Play the BS clip he's not in effect He's not in the boyfriend in Brazil yes, he's got an egg effective exile But wait there's more Laura Poitras ineffective exile in Germany she's not in effective exile She's living in Berlin I would have give you this close to the chaos computer club and the brand-new German

1:00:53 The intelligence agency building is right around the corner. Berlin, you Berlin as a partying place historically has always been. In Brazil, Laura Poitras in effective exile in Germany Sarah Harrison UK citizen ineffective exile in Russia yeah uh-huh Sarah Harrison ineffective exile riding the pole! Wood Snowden in Russia me asylum here the West is becoming a place where the best and the brightest who keep the government, hold the government to account are ending up in asylum or exile in other countries. We are doing this wrong! In Germany? I mean come on... John we're doing this wrong you and I have to go into exile

1:01:38 Yeah, I'm in exile already. Texas is not part of America by the way! I'm in exile... effective... I mean effective exile. In exile in Texas. Effective exile all my exile... effective exile in Texas. I'm an effective exile in my office which I can't seem to clean up That is a FEMA region disaster site. FEMA Region 9A Let me say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs of the water and all The dames and knights out there And in the morning to our human resources in the chat room noagendastream.com Noagendachat.net thank y'all for showing up very nice To have you here in the morning to all of our artists in particular Patrick Bausch who was the artist who scored the artwork for album art work for episode five five six

1:02:32 We always look forward to seeing what you can bring to the table. Noahjendartgenerator.com is where you can submit and Ron Boyd, who is the developer behind the Noagenda Karma Generator app which you can just go to the App Store and find that I think it's only for iOS he sent me a nice note and he says hey I'm gonna start working on the iBook for you guys with the album art remember we talked about that? Yeah, we did now. Yeah yeah we did but he's I book is that so it goes into the iBook stores? Yeah remember what the the right and he said a casting lady would promote it for us the new good then right right Right right So I thought they'd be good and then she links it together You know she'll put on like the iBooks page you'll link it to the podcast And she's really smart yeah She's all that's great. Yeah, I just wanted to throw that out there

1:03:29 well hopefully that'll work we do have a few executive producers and associate executive producers Eric seems to have demoted him to Archduke when in fact he's the Grand Duke yeah Stephen Pelsmachers in Belgium came in with 666.66 which is whole sack of sixes. Dear Amos and Jedediah, he writes a whole sack of sixes in preparation for the sixth anniversary of the show in order to help you continue your sterling work of hitting us slaves-in-the-mouth also to help celebrate my own birthday last Tuesday the 15th please be so kind as to bestow around of swazzle enough karma on all no agenda Knights and Damers out there

1:04:18 I am truly privileged to be among them. On to the next six years! No, and we'll hand out the cards... Thank you so much Grand Duke You've got karma. Hey, ya know it's-I just love that guy. Thank you He is our he is truly our patron of patrons A man amongst men He is the uh Hold on a second He is the Archduke Oh and his arch is not grand? No I mean Grand Duke He is the Grand Duke Yes No, Arch is underground I was just looking, because i sent a note to David Julian who's next on the list. I'll read his note. Wait a minute... This is David Julian 3333 Morgan Hill California came in again Again with the same code? The note says blue fire hydrant no agenda We have no idea what it means but.. I asked him what it meant Okay He refused to respond

1:05:14 He just didn't respond at all or he said I'm responding, but I'm not telling you no response whatsoever hmm well again Just because so yeah. I like these short notes Let's split it up you do the with this three sections So oh yeah, I'll start go blue fire hydrant No agenda that's a guy and that's the kind of support. I appreciate well I'm in Falcon in the snowman now all of a sudden Alright, do you have the beginning of this note from VP live vape team? 3333 in Waltham Massachusetts. I got it where it starts off podcast in 2001 Oh no, I have this is from our vaping producer the VP live vape team

1:06:08 which you can find at vapeteam.com I heard you guys talking about vaping on episode 556, i've been vaping for four years since the first products hit the market and went from one-and-a-half packs per day to just vaping in around a week! I haven't had a cigarette since I started vaping we had seen thousands of people quit smoking dramatically reduce the amount of cigarettes they consume... I love how the product has helped me and my family so much that I decided to start the podcast in 2011 it's a vaping podcast We don't take money from the industry.

1:06:48 We don't take money from the industry but do take free products as giveaways. We fund the show out of our own pocket, YouTube ads and with the occasional donation The FDA is about to regulate these products Now I will say that I've received several vaping emails But this is an executive producer so we're going to read this standalone and talk about the vaping later if we get to it So the FDA is about to regulate these products. It has been in progress for several years since the FDA declared them tobacco products in 2009 The regulation is supposed to drop this month, but the government shutdown might delay it well good luck there ever since the ANTZ anti-nicotine tobacco zealots found them on their radar you find that

1:07:27 Repressives, oh I'm sorry. Representatives from groups like American Cancer Society and the American Lung Association and the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids are against these devices even though they clearly have many healthy benefits and actually help people reduce quit smoking no matter what Adam thinks he's wrong hold on he's wrong what does Adam know The truth is that nicotine and tobacco are two different things. Nicotine has similar health risks as common stimulants such as caffeine, yeah true the problem with nicotine currently is the delivery method burning tobacco releases thousands of other chemicals which are known to have significant health risk vaping produces no secondhand smoke and no toxic byproducts then he goes on to say that the pharmaceutical industry is against vaping since their current nicotine replacement therapy drugs patches gum shanties etc are highly ineffective

1:08:18 They can't sell electronic cigarettes as drugs since they are tobacco products also drugs like shantyx which have insane side effects Yes, we know our big profit centers So he winds up by saying I've been an advocate for vaping around the country It's an industry that is exploding and helping people continue using nicotine in a much safer fashion If you have any questions, please let me know. I believe he's the one who sent the email which accused Pfizer of of being behind, if I'm not mistaken. Yes we got the it's all in the show notes by the way yes that Pfizer gave two almost three million dollars to let's see in total that is to the American Academy of Pediatrics American Cancer Society American Heart Association American Lung Association campaign for tobacco-free kids American Medical Association American Legacy Foundation action on smoking and health

1:09:13 total of $2,757,300 and that was Pfizer of course who don't they make the shantix? Yeah I think they do. and other products, and so that of course that's how it works. And in fact I think that as much as i hate to do what I think John you and I should get on the anti-vaping train It seems like oh yeah we can use the money That's where the money is Yeah we should say hey this vaping thing sucks man Action on smoking and health $200,000? Yeah! Vaping blows Don't blow your life don't vape

1:09:55 Come on! Send me some money. Yeah, well there's... I think it's actually Glaxo. Isn't Glaxo who makes it? What, Shantaxx? No no, Glaxo doesn't make it. It has to be Pfizer. Well here let's don't continue the show until we find out reality. Shantix. S-H-A-N-T-I-X space wiki Wow! It's also called Varenicline which is the I guess the uh... The medical name? Drug name. Marketed by Pfizer usually in the form of tartrate it says prescription medication used to treat smoking addiction Okay, good

1:10:47 I do understand that there's different types of vaping. There are, you know...there are- there is a type of vaping where kids just have like some cherry crappy liquid and there's like a wick in a pen and then it batteries burns it and this actual did that is actual smoke It's not like a vaporizer they're burning like cherry goop. I got a couple emails about that And dr. Sharky checked in a lot, but it was it's an interesting topic It is definitely on people's minds like and I'm just happy that we're in the game We got some skin in the game because we have received a three hundred thirty-three dollar and 33 cent Donation from the VP live vape team yeah, so we're in the game

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1:12:34 who writes in, after almost running off the road myself laughing at Adam's commentary to the White House mum incident. I figured this though Nate... Why? Did i say something weird? I don't know it was apparently something funny to The Australian I figured this donation was long overdue. I finally hit my husband in the mouth after years of trying... This is always stunning to the two of us because uh, of our previous experiences with men always... With spouses? Yeah No that men have always been trying to get their spouses, their wives particularly generally who are tended being generally not as

1:13:15 amenable to our message. Yes, maybe the misogynistic nature of our speech has something to do with it? That could be that's possible and then it would be reversed because there is this southern hemisphere so that the toilet... I finally hit my husband in the mouth after years of trying and he's recently delighted in pointing out that I am one of those evil people who listen and double speak. Oh no! So, he does listen to the show because we must have caught our rant on that. Despite knowing... That's why she was laughing at your thing you sound like a chipmunk Exactly Despite no agenda being against me I knew all was not lost This realization came when John told The Fact That Kale is horrible

1:14:04 I throw this in my husband's face as he has many a time been unable to understand why I refuse to eat kale salad and any other horrid green veggie he can find. And I please request as much needed shot of karma for my husband. My God, you gotta get the guy some meat and meet karma for him here you go. You've got Karma This is not good We'll have a man down soon Man down kale overdose man down kale overdose I was at the Whole Foods yesterday because miss Mickey wanted this particular type of peanut soup

1:14:40 Yeah, I said what do you want? She says. I want the peanut soup from Whole Foods Okay, I'll go get that no problem. Okay dear yeah It's nice she's bad in a badge he's gonna pour away and uh and I look and I was there meaningless I really only had to get the soup You know some kind of walking around looking at other things. I just can't afford She did like cheese and cheese blocks with cranberry for $18 are you kidding me anyway And I'm looking all the women there So all the first of all the dudes are hipster. They got that douchebag hat on you know the one I'm talking about pork pie Pork pie, what is it pork pie? There's a pork pie had they like to wear yeah? Yeah also app from Burberry Yeah, oh douchebag And you know and with it shirt tails out in there send the converse sneakers on but that's a vest yeah But they've got money so their whole foods

1:15:34 And then, but the women. That's most of them and some of them do but most don't did that in the reason they don't have money is because they go to Whole Foods yeah well Then there's this than the women you know by the way By the way You never see these these hipsters at the farmers market Never Have you ever seen him? No Never never or at Wheatsville we have a co-op here which just opened up that I'm really that's I mean screw anything else Okay, but now the so the women they all have a high level of hotness and pick up ability what they Yeah, well I was saying there most of them are pretty thin because they're you know They don't eat anything. They have kale. They kale anyone's throwing up most of the time green kale version of bulimia

1:16:28 Kalemia! There you go, write it down. Kalemia... Yeah but they all look unhappy that was gonna be my punchline because they've got kalemias yeah they look unhappy they just all of them just have a grouchy growl on their face oh yeah they do it's just is wow it's not this is not a good place to be and now and they've changed Whole Foods now with monitors and stuff in the aisles are talking to you it's very creepy I think it's just creepy. We're going, we got a Wheatsville that's our co-op we like that Occasionally you'll find the ones that have been doing the veganism long enough and they have this weird

1:17:06 Taller to their skin they get these little cross hatch. They're like in their 20s, but their skin looks like is into 60s Yeah, you have to look carefully Before your pro-life it looks like a little spider webs like webbing It's called there's a name for it You got to look very close because they haven't got enough oil in that system whatever Whatever it is They don't have they've been missing something for sure yeah The end up grumpy and they lose their sense of humor and once you lose your sense of humor I can assure you it's all over done What was it called again? Kaleemia. There goes our free box from healthy surprise doc. No, no he's a fanatic. He says you're gonna double up on the kale snacks Anyway thank you very much these are our executive producers and associate executive producers the way it works on this show is

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1:17:06 Taller to their skin they get these little cross hatch. They're like in their 20s, but their skin looks like is into 60s Yeah, you have to look carefully Before your pro-life it looks like a little spider webs like webbing It's called there's a name for it You got to look very close because they haven't got enough oil in that system whatever Whatever it is They don't have they've been missing something for sure yeah The end up grumpy and they lose their sense of humor and once you lose your sense of humor I can assure you it's all over done What was it called again? Kaleemia. There goes our free box from healthy surprise doc. No, no he's a fanatic. He says you're gonna double up on the kale snacks Anyway thank you very much these are our executive producers and associate executive producers the way it works on this show is

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1:20:27 Excuse me? Would you like to go down under for a moment. We have Australian news! We sure do, in fact let's set it up. Australian News! Tough new laws to tackle motorcycle gangs will go before Parliament in the Australian state of Queensland today The move is part of a crackdown taking place in several states against biker gangs In recent months there have been several cases of gang-related violence. For more on this issue, let's speak now to my colleague John Donison who joins us from Sydney. Good to see you John! Now this is a fine piece of slave training legislation which was brought to my attention via this BBC report which I'll play the rest in a moment also producer Alex down under in Queensland

1:21:11 Sent me the legislation and he actually did I love it when this happens now we have our producers Sending in PDFs pre-marked up for your convenience that are that hit the show notes. Yes This will be an ass John when this is done What do you think? This legislation is really about tell us first of all, how powerful are these guys? Oh Well, they're pretty powerful and of course the police say they have connections to drug dealing organized crime. There's a lot of intergang violence not just in Queensland but in states across Australia it's estimated there are around 3500 members at these so-called outlaw biker gangs such as The Hells Angels 35

1:21:55 different gangs across the country and Queensland just the latest state really to sort of say it's had enough. These laws that they're trying to get through Parliament, the State Parliament this week being billed as the toughest Australia has ever seen large rewards being offered for information leading to gang activities at the bikes all any gang member who is convicted will be crushed and turned into scrap metal, restrictions on gang members wearing their colours or their leathers in public. Leathers! They're leathers! They're leathers! Riding in large groups and even one saying no gang member will be allowed to own a tattoo parlour

1:22:35 John, give us a bit of background to this. When I heard the leathers and tattoo parlor, I'm like... This is bullshit thing! Something is going on with this. There's specific incidents that have triggered this? Yes! Are motor cycle gangs rampant throughout Australia?! Are they just raping women and pillaging villages and chopping children heads off!? Surge this interest in legislation to crack down on the gangs? Well, this is a long-running problem. I think since... Oh well you surprised me with that question! Since the 1980s there have been 100 people killed in gang related murders and more than 1,000 shootings we've had. Let me get this right In 30 years 100 people have been killed by gangs? Wow gee what a statistic A spate of violence mostly intergang violence rivals

1:23:31 drive-by shootings, that sort of things in recent months not only in Queensland but also in the state of Victoria. Last week we had police in Victoria carrying out raids on more than 60 different properties linked to the Hells Angels gang and there they seized a large amounts of guns, weapons some sort of military style uh... weapons and all right so this just goes on into bullcrap what do you think this is really about? What do you suspect in this anti-motorcycle gang legislation John Well, there's a number of possibilities and by the way I think it's rather peculiar that they crush the motorcycles instead of putting them on the market selling them or making some money for the state. This is part of the meme to really help you associate this legislation with motorcycle gangs specifically

1:24:22 Big Pharma? No, no. So this is the... Helmet laws? It's better than that! This is Slave Training 101 I have a document in front of me and will just highlight a few things even though our producer Alex has highlighted it alot This really is the vicious lawless association disestablishment bill for 2013 This is not about motorcycle gangs. No, this is about any group or association defined as follows... Any group of three... Oh I get it! Here it comes! Any group of three or more persons by whatever name called whether associated formally or informally and whether the group is legal or illegal. The Ladies Knitting Club? Yes that's an association that falls under this act

1:25:15 For this act, a person is a participant in the affairs if—and I have a couple here—the person has attended more than one meeting or gathering of persons who participate in the affairs of the association in any way. Or has taken part on anyone or more occasions in the affairs of the association in any other way." So the quilting club is already in trouble? Yes, yes. And book clubs where those women sit around talking about shades of grey. Always at least five of them Now you can have a club unless one of the persons in the club is a vicious lawless associate

1:25:57 Yeah, I can see that in any quilting club. There's always one woman in there that is just a vicious person It can be if you commit a declared offense or are participant of the affairs of an association that commits offenses and as part of this bill If you are deemed a vicious lawless associate In addition to the fine for the crime committed You'll get an additional 15 years sentence just because of how it's defined in this bill. Now let's go down to the next bit here I have some of the offenses that you might be interested in sorry that didn't oh here we go okay, of the criminal code there's a number of things you can do if you're in a group of three and if you've had a meeting more than one meeting and

1:26:58 Have committed a fray are you familiar with this word afraid? No, no. You have to explain it AFF r-a-y Afraid an instance of fighting in a public place that disturbs the peace bar fight bar fight Yes if you have attempted to pervert justice if you commit a bomb hoax If you operate a vehicle in a dangerous manner if you receive tainted property, or if you possess dangerous drugs are amongst the 25 I have listed here. And if you're in a group of three or more and if you call yourself something... You can get an additional 15 years for any of these offenses This is a slave act! Is what this is Now the way I understand it It's only for the province of Victoria

1:27:56 No, it wasn't Victoria. It was the other one. Victoria's also a problem. Queensland? Isn't that in Victoria? No, Victoria I think is a separate province. Oh, it's Queensland! Yes, this is Queensland...I'm sorry to show you what I know. This is very disturbing The way it's being sold to the public is hey, you know This is this is almost like the EU protocols on human rights Unless you know You have the flu and then we can arrest you and throw you in jail or any other communicable disease? No, you can't be shot dead by a police officer unless you're running away from the police officer because clearly no then you're dangerous And so now if you were afraid and you're in a group of three

1:28:44 Which could easily, you know don't wear your no agenda t-shirts together. If there's three of you it someone has to wear the twit t-shirt two can wear the no agenda shirt and someone has to wear something different So for as much as we are always looking at Australia and saying wow those guys got it together this sucks nice slave training Australia Yeah It's outstanding I'm glad that they're Doing something. Well, I'm glad that we have producers who are wide awake down there and you can find this marked up legislation in the show notes 557 dot na show notes calm what

1:29:38 Nothing, I was just...I'm in stunned silence. Every single time like is he there? Did he drop out? You're getting paranoid now! Hey so what i found interesting is the news of Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill Grenwald leaving the Guardian to start up his own organization backed by this one of the guys from eBay or PayPal? What's his name? I don't know anything about this. You're kidding me Pierre Omidar? Yeah, you don't know him? He started it but the guy is a total flake he has started a number of publications and then out of the blue as far as i can tell he gets bored and then just pulls the funding so these guys are going to be left hanging oh no they're gonna be swinging in the wind! You hadn't heard about this

1:30:34 No. Oh my god, oh this is...this is earth shattering! Okay so here's the deal Glenn Greenwald has announced his departure from The Guardian he's going to start up a new online only news venture So wait a minute stop So let me get this straight. He's with Salon, a huge money losing operation which is exactly what you're describing goes to the Guardian makes a reputation for himself he's probably got carte blanche and he says that screw this I'm gonna go back to this to a similar situation that just loses money and i'm going to right now I'm gonna be losing the money but I'll be losing on behalf of Peter it's Pierre

1:31:21 Pierre Peter Well, yeah So what was there's a couple of things interesting about it one is so this pierre actually wrote about this and he did a couple interviews And he says well 250 million dollars. This isn't okay Let me give you what? He actually said he said that he was offered the Washington Post well as the eBay boy, the Amazon boy. What's his name? Bezos and that he also I don't know if you looked first or whatever but so apparently he was like well this is great they want 250 million dollars but now I think I'm gonna go do something else and he has had a civil beat

1:32:08 The Honolulu Civil beat running for a couple of years, which is a... Oh that's a runaway breakout hit? That is. And he's actively involved with that so he is kind of I guess enjoying being a news guy So even though he has not said he is dedicated... Stop the presses! Even though he has not said he is dedicating 250 million dollars, He says well I didn't spend 250 million on the post so that you could see that as my possible inlay. He has not committed that Well according to The Guardian and I'm reading from The Guardian Do you think there's any sour grapes in The Guardian? In an interview Omidar said he was committing an initial

1:32:51 250 mil. Okay, that's the yet unnamed venture That's not what he's quoted as saying in a quoted interview but that's okay To me What I found interesting was exactly what you highlight is Salon is essentially a publication that cost three million dollars a year run by sugar daddy Sugar Daddy who is the chairman of Adobe? whose daughter happens to be the president of salon and or CEO maybe, I can't remember which one it is. But you know so they essentially bring in a million dollars in advertising and cost them four million to run the outfit so he puts in three and Greenwald left that... And you're right! He built up a reputation A reputation which I'll add is built with collaborative effort I think with editors and some staff Now he has all this stuff, I guess he has a trove

1:33:51 he's going to build I don't know if he's going to build it or the way Pierre says that he says that Poitras and Scahill and I guess a whole bunch of other people from the why just hire this staff from democracy now right exactly sounds to me as though what he's doing is he's rare America is what I'm thinking well I don't think nothing could be that bad Democracy Now at least is hung in there. Democracy Now and the stuff that you get on Pacifica Radio, KPFA and these guys where they have to devote at least an hour a day to Navajo poetry so they make sure- Hey hey hey I resent that! The funny thing is about the Navajo poetry they actually read it in Navajo. It's just like jeez can you find something more entertaining than this? Even the Navajos don't like it

1:34:47 So he's gonna 250 by the way is a lot because you don't need a lot of money. Yeah internet era your need for this kind of Overhead is 350 is buying the Washington Post where you have a plant this day on online I mean if you can't do a publication with Glenn Greenwald and all these people for five mil, kind of the budget that Salon has. Yeah. I don't know what you're thinking? Well i'm thinking a lot of people are going to be like hey Glenn! Yo Bob always thought you were great get me a job get me a job

1:35:23 I just don't understand, you know for a guy who is everything is important about it. You know at the end of the day turns out for him It's not about...I think The Guardian was certainly letting giving him free reign on publishing. I don't think he was curtailed in any way. I think he's able to do his side projects So it is ultimately for just like everyone else. It's for the money, I guess so yeah If you really wanted to do it right? He would have done a book Well, that may be a part of the deal Well, maybe. Maybe they're gonna help him do the book. The book should be out by now by the way yeah and it's also very possible...the way Pierre says it himself as part of my and this is from his own blog as part of my learning process these rich guys and I think he is actually the guy who wrote the first eBay code

1:36:17 So I think you know this is kind of a success story, you know just kind of a nerdy guy wrote some code for an auction site and really Now he's a publisher. As part of my learning process Listen to Ev Williams if you get a chance every you know these guys who like wrote some code and were head yeah first now They're all like oh well um You know as part of my learning process I recently reached out to Glenn Greenwald to find out what journalists like him need to do their jobs well. As it turns out, he and his colleagues Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill were already on a path to create an online space to support independent journalists We had a lot of overlap in terms of our ideas and decided to join forces Hold on second you okay?

1:37:10 I don't know. Yeah, can you wait? Is she okay? Has she been eating kale or anything like that? Hold on one second let me just check to make sure she's okay That sounded like a distress call hold on one sec All right She's okay What happened to her? I think it was just a really loud cough and it hit the noise gate And it sounded like a dog being run over Oh! I'm just ready to run in there and see like the bed inflames with their legs on fire oh You mean because of spontaneous human combustion Yes It starts in... no You have to understand how this works. Oh, I thought it always started in the legs! It starts along the midriff... ...along the belly and kind of across the center of your body. And then it spreads up and down simultaneously into your nuts. Okay, I thought it always started in the legs? No no no no, the legs are last thing they light up. What do I know?! Yeah If you read about it This is an actual phenomenon. This is... See, I really hope someone has a... Hold on one second here John

1:38:14 Yeah, today's recording is going to be very interesting. It'll be fine I'm gonna have to patch together a million. Oh you're gonna actually have to do some post Somehow I still had it set up to start new file when goes below a certain level of audio. You screwed the pooch is what you're telling me? I have like 20 files, it's okay i can patch them all together It'll work out don't worry about it. I'll do some work Hey you know now that we have 250 million dollars to build our operation with I just find this extremely interesting where we get these free people who now are going to let themselves be tied down to a billionaire, who may have some kind of agenda. Who knows? Although the guy seems pretty cool... He's still what he is

1:39:07 Well, he was Mr. Moneybags and with it in he does have an agenda they all do well This is the same guy who I mean? He's in the club with Jeffrey Skoll you know of course financed Inconvenient truth But also yeah Yeah, you think there's gonna be any anti climate you know, uh... reporting at all? Well the question is what is it going to be I mean Glenn Greenwald not just known for his sports reporting you know so this guy and he's just going to be all about whistleblowers. Is it all going to be one... The Whistleblower's Daily from Palo Alto California! I'm your host Exactly So yeah this seems a... It seems dodgy I'd say

1:40:01 Dodgy I'd say dodgy dodgy very dodgy. I'm surprised you didn't know about that I was kind of excited to talk to you about it, and I guess she could have sent me a heads up like I sent you John this is like this is huge news. I'm what's huge news is not huge news to me. I'm flabbergasted me I care, you know. Oh jeez they're starting another douchebag publication with way too much money Every time they've done this by the way The only guys who operate well are the ones that operate on a shoestring If you have all this money, I guarantee this thing will be a dog They're gonna hire a bunch of guys who aren't going to do any work because they got their money coming in and don't have to worry about making money so they're not gonna be lean and hungry It's gonna be a piece of crap! I mean I can guarantee it

1:40:51 Portfolio did it when Condé Nast rolled it out. You could see right away that it wasn't going to succeed because they just had too much money, they were just coming out of their ears or overpaying everybody I'm thinking that the whole concept of a network of anything is just inappropriate in today's age I don't see the necessity for Glenn Greenwald to need to be part of a network. If Greenwald, with the stuff he's doing... if he just said hey support me and my sources? The guy would make a million bucks! Well that's what Sullivan did. Sullivan... What was his first name? The guy who was the political commentator. Gilbert O? Yeah. That was his first name. Gilbert O. Sullivan

1:41:39 Ed Sullivan? Andrew Sullivan. I think it's Andrew, isn't it? Andrew Sullivan. Andrew Sullivan! Right and what did he do? Andrew Sullivan decided he was going to go on his own. He is going to a pay per view... not a pay-per-view but a subscription firewall Publication oh the dish is that his thing is that still uh? I don't know if the dish is what it turned out to be by the way your volume goes up and down And up and down. It's driving me nuts, okay hold on I have to turn you up hang out a second Now your sound terrible all right am I too loud yeah, you're wrong one two one Two how's this 1 2 1 2 1 2 better well at least I can hear you Okay How about this 1 2 1 2 is this better once that's fine okay? It was set to automatic on this computer. I'm sorry um

1:42:29 Uh-huh. So isn't that what became the Daily Beast or is that where he... No, no, no, no. He left the Daily Beast. See, he spun out for it. He quit all those things and says screw it I'm just gonna write by myself and I want you to pay And he got $650,000 right off the top Wow A lot more than we get Yeah Oh, that's like at 650 grand plus. I don't know if he can sustain it These are all in subscriptions and they're all right 25 bucks subscriptions or something like that But he had a pretty big audience and he was well He'd marketed himself very well Yeah And I don't see why green wall could do the same thing and he you know make a million dollars

1:43:05 a year or at least for awhile until people got sick of reading the same thing over and over again. Well, he would have an operating budget which is really what you want You know you want to budget to be able to operate on To travel I guess yes traveling as he has his sources And stuff like that but in general What are the costs really when you have a brand Which i think he carefully built I'd say some of it off Salon, but at the Guardian is really where he came into the mainstream view and you go on every single news show and you're the authority on something. Why ruin it with an Uberlord? Why ruin it with colleagues for Christ's sake? Why would you even want to have Poitrass and Scahill sucking off your dime

1:43:53 Yeah, Scahill's definitely incredibly competitive. He does movies... He's much better as a harem scare-em type of person in interview shows. Exactly! He gets on there and scares the crap outta ya, Greenwald bores you with his monotone blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah he keeps getting...he interrupts you. He's not interesting compared to Scahill. Scahill is very entertaining when you hear him go oh my god all these things are happening what we're gonna do? We're all gonna die right Whereas Greenwall is just like monotone, monotone, monotone. Meanwhile the mainstream media certainly in the United Kingdom's of Gitmo Nation East have their own strange way of spicing up their news coverage this is from The News Hour which I would say is a reasonably prestigious program

1:44:44 This is a download from the BBC. To find out more and our terms of use, go to bbcworldservice.com slash podcasts. This is Tim Franks with News Hour recorded on the 14th of October at 20 hours GMT Coming up we begin a week of special programs with prominent female guest editors. This is Chelsea Clinton vice chair of The Clinton Foundation in New York I'm in the News Hour editors chair today as part of the BBC's 100 women season. We'll be looking at attitudes towards the ivory trade in China. So Chelsea Clinton... Are you kidding me? She is now the special guest editor of The News Hour! Yeah, I know

1:45:27 It's wow. Yeah, I know it's bad man and not in our favor buddy no We maybe should do some of that you know that i'm gonna start a new segment on the show besides the other segment yeah Which you're looking for this embedded stuff So I'm watching the KION and so they have, out of the blue in the middle of a new show they bring out this Wells Fargo guy. What is KION? Is that a station? It's the channel, it's an NBC affiliate in Salinas California Oh okay gotcha And its in the valley somewhere Right right right And so uh...its kinda local Hick, its a Hick version of the NBC stuff compared to KR or not KR but uh...Hick as in Redneck

1:46:15 Just okay. It's a leak this you know come hey, right we get no donors Oh Salinas is where Bill and Ted are from excellent adventure Yeah They were from Selena that figures so they bring this guy on and there's essentially just a plug for Wells Fargo They have it's the two people in his own phone bank You could call and ask crazy questions And so but just play this and then there's a little irksome Aspect to this chin Center and our friends from Wells Fargo are here and they're helping you at home determine what is a good time for your children to start saving. And I'm here with Luis Dominguez, so we wanted to ask you that question. A lot of you out there are thinking you could call us here the phones aren't ringing so if you want free information call the number on the bottom of your screen but Luis tell us when it's a good time for children to start saving? What should you tell parents? Ideally as soon as a child is born it's the best time because just like anything the longer that you can save the better it is

1:47:14 However, I would say the best time is right now. There's no reason to wait and it doesn't matter how old the kids are Right now would be the best time because if you haven't already started saving then The longer you wait that later if he comes so as soon as you can start that's the best time Okay, okay when they're born what do they understand when they're born? What would you tell parents? What do you do when you have a child well eat them yeah? That's a great question and Great question Are you sure it's not a great question? It's an idiotic question. What do you do as soon as they're born? The kid goes on, he says the kids can't really... They don't understand savings so what should you do and the guy says this is a great question. It's not a great question! I don't get these people with that's-a-great-question

1:48:07 I mean, what would you tell parents? What do you do when you have a child? Yeah. That's a great question and How is that a great question i'm asking You it's not A Great Question It'S Just Not the only Reason Is The Great Question Because it put the Guy From The Bank in The in Frame for Another Three Seconds For the Commercial isn't you know this I'm Seeing a lot of This I'm Seeing a lot of The bank making it hard for you to have your money. Chase is doing something where if you deposit more than $50,000 in cash in a week so if you have a cash business like a restaurant then that's not allowed unless you are upgraded to a new type of business account

1:49:00 which of course you know then gives you the right to do a hundred thousand it's like they're just coming up with ways to restrict what you can do with your money and when your money is in the bank I mean what is this great percentage rate we get one? I don't even know if it's that much. It's even that much yeah, and I saw the...I keep getting offers from From chase for the sapphire card. Have you seen this? No, oh my god So put in $50,000 into a savings account Okay I don't have that but alright let's presume I had fifty thousand dollars and I put it into a Chase savings account I will get the Sapphire card which is a credit card made of metal And I'd like that That's which is a takeoff on the MX black black correct and I'm seeing people

1:49:48 And what difference does it make if it's made of metal? Well because, well its a very pretty card I mean It has this blue royal kind of purplish-blue hue to it. Let me take a look at that and then people will drop the card This is from Chase? Yeah and so I've seen people pay with this card and they will throw it down nonchalantly or drop it and go you know it has this like ding! Yes metal People go how oh yes this is my sapphire card It's you know, it's things is that that bluish looking? Yeah. Who she card yes sapphire 20 and bull crap yeah does the card work or not mine mind doesn't always be harder for them to cut the card mine doesn't always seem to work

1:50:38 By your estimation, John how long have we been broadcasting if you take out the stops we had? Is it time for our donation segment? The stops lasted about 2-3 minutes each. Okay is it time for the donation segment because I've lost all time... I think we're way over doing a donation segment and was just waiting to cut to it Oh here we go! Indeed so we do have a few people to thank Andrew Holcomb in Ann Arbor, Michigan 100 came in with 125 dollars and silently requested karma yesterday and it arrived nice Thank you. Here's the donation to confirm that karma and supporting to Confirm that Karma works and to support your hard-worked gentlemen. Oh, thank you so much That's very kind of you And then we cut right to the chase

1:51:31 Oh, pfft. Wow! Uh... Yeah that was- I was not uh, not expecting it here we go. Tie it again. Yeah Meanwhile, we have a black knight apparently because Craig Porter in Jacksonville Florida donated $69.69 to show 556 and it was not announced as a night I think this is because they changed my PayPal email after i was knighted I was knighted on show 2328 So has he got another knighthood? What's the deal? He wants to be called a Knight and Sir Craig Porter under this donation. So it needs to renamed I guess. Yes, we have them on the list for ceremony today Eric Thorsen Bergen Hordeland in Norway 6969 these are all 6969s P Boe in Maastricht

1:52:27 Pym, as he calls it. He would like some 69-69 karma and I suggest you give it to him Yes because that is the end of our 69-69. Okay here we go You've got karma 69! 69 dude We get down to one and that little guy yelling 69-69 dude. We had somebody complaining that we threatened to kill it, but were going to kill it. It's done! When its over, it is done Because I don't want to do 69-69 and then do 61 guy and then play the thing again. That would be dumb Yeah, very dumb We'd rather have 66-66 which now we have 66 people including Lucas Zeewa? Munich, München, Deutschland

1:53:15 Andrew Gardner in Charlotte Hall, Maryland. Harshad Patel in Bilston West Midlands Brian Watson and Sugar Grove Illinois Terry Floyd in San Leandro California I do have a note from him he did write it in my hand with the hand of the handwritten longhand cursive that's something I don't know where is lost it there's no Yeah, well that's working out great. That is like it's like I'm like a feel like a bureaucrat I got all these things printed out. I got the lists I get the note and the note seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth wait a minute hold on a second could be in here I bet you this

1:54:08 Yeah, great. Yes Do you want me just to continue while you're looking for that or is there anything I can do the help? It's not here is not here Who was this again? Terry Floyd Terry Floyd yeah he sent a note He signed it at the bottom. I don't have to know anymore now Maybe find it by the end of this section good work Sorry, I had two notes. It's annoying okay We'll come back to Terry. I need a rubber stamp or something, or... I need filing something, I need a system! Oh wait a minute, I found the note. And we will read some of these notes when they're hand-shipped In the morning, I donated Bitcoin to Adam back when you guys accepted them but decided that I owed you something more after the outstanding work you two have done and generated over the past few months. I sat on this check for too long and it stinks by the way

1:55:07 The check? You sat on it too long. Okay, it wasn't funny. No, not even close! I decided to send out now that I heard your analysis of the Silk Road takedown Adam was right on the money There are several fishy and contradictory details in the affidavits from Maryland and New York filed against the dread pirate Roberts by the way We haven't followed up on that story. The guy well I keep seeing cartoon drawings You know because I guess he's they bring in front of some judge somewhere which apparently press is not allowed because ooh That would be too scary so I keep seeing drawings Of him, so I guess he's real

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2:01:48 Yes, indeed. Oh hopefully miss Mickey will be better by then and better people I'm sure she'll be fine tomorrow just three this day three She's not looking too good. She was okay last about three days Lay off the kale I Think it's the kale that did it so I got a kind of a gripe local play this clip And then I want to do I want to deconstruct us a little bit and read and sewage Because my conclusion about this kind of thing is just annoying Palo Alto emergency alert system. Some Peninsula residents were surprised by an emergency message they received. Yes, some 27 thousand Palo Alto residents got this noisy smartphone emergency alert about

2:02:39 Of all things, a charity pancake breakfast. No it obviously was not an emergency KPIX 5's Len Ramirez spoke to some people who say the fire department is abusing this system The instant message went out on the county's emergency notification system to tens of thousands of people in Palo Alto all at once. I got the alert in three ways, text and email a phone call under the header Alert SCC the Palo Alto Fire Department sent out word that they were A holding a pancake breakfast Saturday morning and B that a helicopter would be landing at a local school for demonstration purposes only. In retrospect if I had to do it again I probably put the helicopter

2:03:18 in the first or second sentence. Fire Chief Eric Nickel defended using the alert system which was designed primarily for major emergencies and says so on the systems home page, for the community event which benefited Project SafetyNet Yeah, I've been following this and as you know Well, I've got some some some info so I can under well project safety net is the key here. Yes What is this project safety net? And in fact LD there's a bunch of these things going on in Palo Alto and they tend to be oriented or about The as they put it on if you start digging around their websites, and I thought it was interesting because they keep changing It's the LGBTQ Q community cute double queue yeah

2:03:59 Yes, double Q. Queer and... Queenie? questioning that would be you my friend. I'm questioning, i prefer bi-curious but questioning is...I think I fall in that, I do fall on this category there's also LGBTQC and I and there's a bunch of other ones so I started looking into this realizing that apparently the the LGBTQ community has taken over the emergency system and they're the ones making these broadcast because it's really important And I realized, you know it's so funny to follow this the history of this moniker. And there is a really good page LGBT webpage on the Wikipedia and of course i'm always reminded when I was working at Mevio and Brooks who's a fairly notorious gay guy that was there he always said he never could figure out what happened when they change from GLBT

2:04:58 to LGBT. It used to be gay and lesbian, it used to be GL. It was gay and lesbian but then the lesbians didn't like that at first it was gay because lesbians are gay but the lesbians didn't like that because they don't want to be associated with men with penis so they have to make it... you know GLBT was cause the bi's were irked and so were the transgenders and now everybody is irked And it doesn't seem to be like a group with cohesion even though they have a party once in awhile. It seems that they just at each other's throats and there is bunch of crazy stuff that goes on including these, you know the third gender identity which is one of this things that being promoted India and so you end up with... What is? Well hold on what is... LGBTIH because hijra, H-I-J-R-A third gender identity has its own subculture

2:05:52 And so this is getting really carried away with all these kinds and I would recommend people reading the entire page of the LGBT page on Wikipedia because it discusses kind of the history of this. And, uh...I just find the whole thing to be a... I don't know if it's laughable but why are they sending out emergency messages for a pancake breakfast? Have you ever been to a pancake breakfast?! No, it's ludicrous. It's a bunch of cheap pancakes with a bunch of cheap the cheapest There's no real maple syrup there I guarantee it even in Palo Alto It'll be some sort of high fructose corn syrup mixture that you dump on there with a bunch of cheap butter or margarine and then You eat this in public Well people are watching you

2:06:44 I scold the LGBTQ community for misusing this system. So let me understand by the way, I expect Amber Alerts to have advertisements within the next five years. I'm putting it in The Red Book. I was as I received a couple of screenshots from the first of all that this is all part of the commercial mobile alert system CMAS And CMAS, also known as Wireless Emergency Alerts. As we know they work through the cell tower system and they're broadcasting to you directly We got another one of these on Mickey's phone the other day because it has almost been raining kind of like non-stop for a couple days here in Austin really flash flooding etc

2:07:32 And this is all part of the giant voice system as we know it as the you know, the slave training tools Which will tell you to shelter in place? Cower in the corner or you get this is the giant voice system on Saturday. There will be a pancake breakfast Exactly he sent us a second I've got it. I saved him here in the show notes and So in the Canadian system on Android, because this as far as I know right now. I've only seen this on the iPhone. I haven't seen it on the new Android so he has... This is crazy! You can set your preferences. So sell broadcast settings here's the preferences show extreme threats and these are all checked by default of course

2:08:22 Which and I'm reading directly from the screen show extreme threats display alerts for extreme threats to life and property. No, I'm gonna uncheck that one That was that sounds boring Show severe threats Display alerts for severe threats to life and property that's checked by default show amber alerts display child abduction emergency bulletins turn on notifications altogether And then you can select the alert sound duration, which is four seconds by default. Vibrate on alert and also speak alert message use text-to-speech to speak emergency alerts and then we have the ETWS settings... Do I have these here? Yes! Display test broadcast for earthquake tsunami warning system

2:09:13 Show CMAS test broadcasts, which is display test broadcast for the commercial mobile alert system and show the opt-out dialogue at the end Which says show an opt out dialogue after displaying. The first CMAS alert other than presidential alerts you see when when their food or talks then obviously You know me you can't turn that one off So this is just another great reason why I don't carry a cell phone anymore. This is insanity and you're right, you're getting pancake breakfast commercial messages. I'm still kind of thrown by the cue thing that yeah... You can't complain as much anymore because I'm questioning but now I'm part of the group

2:09:59 Yeah, you're part of this group. This crowd outlet is that what they're called outlet? Yeah outlet is an LGBTQ youth organization Oh I can't be youth but I could be a big brother at outlet yeah, you could Hi kids and they're here to support and empower the LGBTQ Q I've been questioning all my life Is there anyone here who could help push me over the edge? There's another one. ACS, Just for Teens Adolescent Counseling Service empowers teens and their families in our community to realize their emotional and social potential through counseling and preventative

2:10:55 Preventative education, whatever that means. As long as you're not black you can go to that The Trevor Project is the leading national organization providing crisis intervention and suicide prevention services for lesbian gay bisexual Transgender and questioning youth so I guess the questioning youth are also suicidal Palo Alto's got issues Yeah no kidding Wow And it was just named a best place in the world to live If you can afford it Yes, the most expensive place in the Bay Area generally speaking unless you go to Hillsborough anyway That's my little gripe for now. That's good and it looks like I got an email titled red book denial It's like what yeah so this Red Book with this RB? What is it our RDB K net

2:11:52 So apparently one of the Redbook entries that we have in our official red book went on this website And and my redwood prediction was deputy director of the National Security Agency John C Inglis will become the next secretary of Homeland Security replacing Janet Napolitano when she leaves now We've had no replacement as far as I know and The news came out that Kaiser Alexander is quitting. Yes along with his second-in-command John C. Inglis and yeah, and then so someone went on the Redbook site and said I think it's safe to say this is not going to happen now that he's being forced out you're denied Yeah, yeah, then I got an email like I'm denied and it's not true did they could see me you denied That's what it says It says deny hate on the website night me. I don't know This is the this is the site

2:12:45 Anyway, it said denied so I guess that mean my my red book entry has been denied. I don't know what that means What was your red book entry? What I just told you that English is gonna go to Homeland Security Yeah, I think it's still possible yeah sure it is So why would it be denied well this is why I don't like it okay? Why did they mention of this not going to get any more approval if Adam Curry who has Red Book authorization. He's in the highest secret authorization to actually use the Red Book. I have clearance, I have... Whatever he says goes in there! I have red book clearance. Yes total clearance for The Red Book so whatever he says you could be full of crap which is possible

2:13:34 It still goes in the Red Book to be used later as a pointer. He was full of crap on this, no that's terrible I don't think... Maybe they used the wrong IP address maybe they saw you as just some interloper not the real Adam Curry Regardless of that it is very interesting to see Alexander saying he is going to leave in six months Along with English and I will say that the smart thing for these guys to do would be to start their own consulting company. I mean, they've set up beautifully right to work probably for Chair top you think it'll go straight because this guy they actually don't call him Kaiser

2:14:14 Look, let's face it. He is not an entrepreneur take a look at him but as a guy who has a stooge in Chertoffs operation to do some lobbying and probably take a few records with him if you know what I'm saying? You know be kind of the official blackmailer for the place. Got some info yeah he was they used to call him Alexander The Geek when he was a kid. If he wasn't a geek he wouldn't have that Star Trek thing oh yeah take that with him Yeah break that down and put that in the truck They called him the Emperor actually. I've been reading up on his past and that is what they would call him inside the hallowed walls in DC, they call him Emperor Alexander so we actually by calling him Kaiser were... We're close! Close but it's I think emperor is above Kaiser isn't?t I think they're equal

2:15:11 So yeah, that's surprising yet is it really? I mean here's the guy who has the goods on everybody. He has built this army and frightened all these nincompoops in Congress about you know the horrible threats to our world and he and his cronies are just sitting there lying and no one calls him on it and they just get to phase... I betcha' there'll be a big party too when they leave They get the huge party. He'll throw in for himself But if I was him, I wouldn't go to work for Chertoff. I think i'd start my own gig. I think he could do it. I think he has the goods on enough people don't you think? Yeah no If I would...if YOU were him You would start your own thing and you have like a five-person operation It would be kind of an intelligence security operation Be little different than Chertoff's operation I believe

2:16:09 But you know that other guy, Hayden went over to work for Chertoff and he's kind of the CIA guy. He was a head of the NSA for awhile and he felt fit right in And he'd be the guy who would kinda cajole Alexander, like can I go over here? You know you could always start your own thing later but you wanna get the... You want to get your feet wet, see if you like it here, you might like it here! We got plenty o' money boy! Build up your Rolodex Get your creds and you know, go do your own thing. I love the we got plenty of money boy! That's my favorite. We've got plenty of money boy So he'll do okay And i just don't see him being the top guy Chertoff is the bullcrap artist that can really do some damage

2:17:04 You know, he's a good front man. He is hardcore like the devil you know does he does got a skull for a face? It's horrible Get the crap out of ya So we have a horse problem in the Western States a horse problem Yeah worse problem play wild horse problem There is renewed controversy in New Mexico over a plan to reopen horse slaughterhouses, which have been banned in this country for six years. Hari Sreenivasan has our report about what's triggered this debate. And then bring them on along the fence line... Several times a week this summer residents of the Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico mapped out a game plan

2:17:50 They set up a temporary pen and then headed out by horseback and ATVs to round up groups of wild horses that have become a threat to the livelihood of farmers and ranchers here. These horses are bouncing in between ranches, in between homesteads they're again eating the forage drinking the water each horse feral horse we estimate eats anywhere between 5-18 pounds of forage a day They drink between 5 and 15 gallons of water a day. Ernie Zha, spokesman for the tribe estimates that feral horses that is horses that run wild but at one time were domesticated cost the Navajos $200,000 a year in damages. There are approximately 70,000 of them in northwestern New Mexico alone and Zha says they're putting a tremendous strain on the land and resources Land that is already struggling from a catastrophic drought I say eat em

2:18:47 Well, that's what we're trying to do. But the animal rights folks don't seem to care about it and you know they think a lot of people eat horse meat in a lot of cultures I mean they do in China they do and Slovenia is like a big horse meaty even though they don't like to admit it to outsiders but I went to a horse meat specialty steakhouse when I was there and had a big slab of sirloin horsemeat which was kind of dense. I don't know, it's not that...I don't dislike horse meat but it's not something. It makes a good taco. I had in Mexico once. I've had it! It's fine with me and also have no problem with it. I'm not... I don't have problems with the thought of it. There was one big thing recently like couple months back in UK. Horsemeat is everything and it's at Tesco's and it's at Burger King

2:19:42 you know, Mac King burger world. It was obviously coming in from outside the country because they banned it somehow but play this out, play Horse Part 2. Roundups in which horses are chased across open land into makeshift corrals and then loaded into trailers to head to auction many of the horses end up in slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico their meat exported to China or Europe where unlike the US horsemeat is regularly consumed The United States shut down horse slaughterhouses in this country six years ago when it prohibited federal funding for inspectors. But recently Congress removed that prohibition... But it was the law of the land! And this summer, the USDA awarded the first permit that would allow horse slaughter to resume in the US It was a decision that ignited a nationwide debate about the practice of killing horses for meat Well I can just see this coming here in Texas

2:20:40 There's gonna be protests and it's all sad. I can see this happening. The Obama people should discuss this at the next dinner. Yeah, oh the poor horsey you can't eat a horsey So play part three and I'll have a couple of second comments. Rios concedes that humane euthanasia and population control are very expensive remedies. Euthanasia costs roughly $300 per horse, and that's not including the cost to round it up Right now, contraception for wild horses is difficult to administer. It involves shooting darts from helicopters with a treatment that must be re-injected every two years. Rios is opposed to slaughter but she says it's not a simple issue

2:21:25 She says horses are dying every day in trucks as they're shipped out of the country and on the rangeland when they run out of food. She thinks that government has been delinquent by not spending enough money to deal with the problem It's inhumane to let animals starve to death, dehydrate to death, procreate at... Excuse me isn't it the definition of inhumane is animals? Inhuman means not treated like a human Well, if you say it's inhumane to treat animals that way isn't that like some kind of paradox? Let we have now you brought this up. I have two we have to look it up I'm gonna finish the last 16 seconds of this procreate at a level that the environment is unable to support

2:22:16 So, that's why at the shelter we wouldn't just say we were against slaughter. We are for humane alternatives. Cremation? What other human do we have? I think we should bring wolves back to Mexico. Whatever! What humane alternatives do we have for animals? This is going... this is a little crazy. Okay, inhuman means lacking pity or compassion It's got nothing to do with anything really said well. Oh, okay? I thought the word human was in there Yeah Well no it means like not acting like a like as compassionate human without compassion for misery or suffering Period okay about people no okay, it seems. It seems like maybe that has

2:23:07 And it says here that's part of the definition confining wild horses is inhumane. Whatever you do is inhumane but anyway they've sued to stop the slaughterhouse and they have all kinds of reasons why and that meanwhile these horses are being shipped out to Mexico where they're there just such a great job down there, you can count on that! But so you know they have an injunction and those whole things going on we have too many horses that need to be eaten and they're running all over the place we have people starving in the streets homeless that would love to have a horse steak but no we have people eating mac and cheese yeah if you will in 69 cent Mac and shit 39 cent mac and cheese dinners anyway that's just I did they just thought that was an interesting situation i didn't realize there were 70,000 of them there apparently is quarter-of-a-million to a million wild horses running around Wow well

2:24:02 Here's another I got one more. Okay, I have some other stuff that I Got did they finally gave the Medal of Honor to this one soldier? Did you see that ceremony yeah that was creepy Well, it's creepy because they didn't want to give the guy the award but they already gave it to one of the Marines that was involved. They gave it to the guy who then they took it back and they arrested him and they accused him of lying there is all this crazy stuff going on this whole thing is a debacle this Medal of Honor so now for the first time in like 200 years they've given the medal of honor two guys from the same battle

2:24:41 Yeah, right. Yeah Okay well they didn't want to give it to this guy who was the captain I believe and so play part one of this and then what I thought was funny about this essentially The rationale that the army finally came out with was that the dog hate ate the homework. So Will stops treating Kenneth long enough to respond by lobbing a grenade And finally after more than an hour-and-a-half of fighting air support arrives A helmet cam worn by a crewman in a medevac helicopter showed Swenson kissing the sergeant's head to reassure him. Westbrook ultimately died, joining the four Americans ten Afghan troops and an interpreter killed in the ambush Another man involved in that fight Marine Corporal Dakota Meyer was awarded his Medal of Honor in 2011

2:25:31 The Pentagon is now investigating allegations that Swenson's nomination was delayed because he criticized superiors over the handling of the battle. The military says his paperwork was lost. You know, they literally deleted this guy's name from the database inside the Pentagon Yeah Like took his name out Well it was one of the congressmen from Missouri up in Washington State Who's claiming that apparently, supposedly helped. But play part two and there's a little rundown by this other guy that discusses some of these issues. To help fill in this story I'm joined now by David Nakamura of the Washington Post he's interviewed Swenson many times and while this is a story of uncommon heroism

2:26:20 Is it also fair to say that it was an uncommon path to today's medal ceremony? Absolutely. It has been a long four years, Ray for Will Swenson He left the military two years ago and he went back to his native Seattle where he is from Where he went to college And he really kept a low profile in part I think because of the controversy surrounding his award There are a lot allegations that the army was concerned about his criticism Concerned about what kind of representation he would give if he were on public stage like this However, there's been pressure from outside both from reports and in the media but also US congressmen got involved asking what happened to this nomination. He deserves the award he's got it today He stood up there like a good soldier and accepted the award and that was back in his uniform So it was a very powerful moment The president touched on it lightly as he did as he does at all medal ceremonies He told the story of how this Award came to be It took a long time

2:27:12 for those men to get air support when they were pinned down by the sniper absolutely are you know our reporting show that it's about took about ninety minutes i'm probably understand from my witnesses of people involved in the ambush on ninety minutes appear fighting others were eleven or so u s trainers with afghan at national army troops and border police who work allied with the u s but we're not completely under our command and sell us some of those folks just ran off in the battle the u.s. soldiers got bob and Marine Corps got separated from one another, which was part of the problem. Their communication was cut off at one point and so they were really stranded on the battlefield for a long time it took two hours for Will Swenson and his men to move back they suffered casualties including Kenneth Westbrook as the video showed and that was a problem and eventually we're able to regroup go back out and they found three Marines in a Navy corpsman who had been killed unfortunately

2:28:03 Anyway, so they go on and talk about the why did it take an hour and a half? And supposedly somebody was reprimanded but they won't say who apparently this was under McChrystal's watch by the way who had changed the Rules of engagement the rules of engagement to being something weird now Here's the disgusting thing about this is the dead soldiers were just you know no arriving ceremony No flag draped coffin. No salutes, no oh yeah? I know what happens But then you don't see it on the news no the president is not there that never that's forbidden for voting we can show Dead people don't show the dead children mr.. President

2:28:46 Press shameful episode in the army's you know typical beer some bureaucrats got In the middle and they had to you know, they were gonna be embarrassed by their by the guys that apparently I don't know why there still no explanation for why it took so long air support I'm not sure why we're discussing it other than. I'm just disgusted by the crew We're discussing it because a good story is yeah, no that's what I mean But it's creepy it is creepy only creep how this happened? I mean the package I had was I actually titled it Creepy Medal of Honor Packet just want to hear it Just a little bit of this play the whole thing creepy of compassion and loyalty

2:29:27 to a brother in arms. Westbrook dies a month later at Walter Reed, but Swenson stayed in touch with his family who were at the ceremony today I looked into a room that was there to support me This guy...I have to say it kind of would creeped me out The guy who won the medal But I was there to support them and will continue to be there to support them My colleagues, families of the fallen Listen to him It's powerful moment So was September 8th 2009 US forces got ambushed by 60 Taliban en route to meet village elders Maybe it was just creepy looking at it. I'll stop but now I know maybe it wasn't creepy because the guy still irked Yeah, yeah the way he's become bitter yeah The way he was talking and He sounded like you know he was talking like someone who would just was about to blow and he knew better Yeah so he made it clear that he was not a happy camper

2:30:22 I have a few. So here's one for you, here's one for you But you've done three in a row now? This will be three in a row but I just want to ask you this question This is an Ask Adam actually this is the IHT rebranded...I'm gonna ask it in advance Why would anyone in their right mind do what just happened And out goes the International Herald Tribune In comes The International New York Times after 126 year run the IHT is rebranded You're like the you're that one of the world's experts on brand. Yes, I am That's correct. I am a brand expert Nike would be nowhere without me In fact, I said hey just do it and then that became pretty famous

2:31:06 So why would they do this? For one thing when you're overseas, I mean the New York Times when you subscribe to the New York Times. I don't care where you are but say I get used to have it coming here now only have it on Sundays and actually forgot to pay for so they don't even send me that anymore but I'll sell it eventually because I'd like to do online research with it whatever the case When I get to New York Times and I open it, start reading it. I know I'm reading a New York City newspaper about what's going on mostly in New York. They got the art museums they got Broadway places kind of makes you think you're kind of like maybe a little bit in New York if you feel a little cosmopolitan. Yes of course

2:31:42 Now, when you're overseas and you see the International Heritage Tribune it's an international paper about everything all over the place. But it is written and published by The New York Times Corporation correct? Yes, but actually a joint venture with them in The Washington Post for a long time and then The Washington Post gave up But so why but it's still a brand that has been around for over 100 years Why would you change it to the International New York Times? It makes no sense. New York is about, New York Why would you put the name New York on at The International Times would make sense So I'm asking you in a branding basis what what is what's the thinking here sounds to me like we have a pending sale or investment or something else is happening that is exterior to this and

2:32:27 and either a board member had a great idea. It sounds like someone who has no idea what they're doing is doing something, in fact maybe Eleanor Clift is running the New York Times Listen to this. Well, this is one of the big problems now you've got a race to be first whether your tweeting or your on the air or your writing and blogger what are writing a story? You've got so many demands as journalists now on you Eleanor. You're at The Daily Beast. You're doing this Do you have somebody editing every tweet every story every word that you know Nobody edits the tweets as far as I know No In fact, I say to myself every day Eleanor think less tweet more. There you go that's the slogan ladies and gentlemen think less tweet more Is this woman a moron? That would be clip of the day Oh it goes on Because i don't tweet enough What do you mean think less? That'd be really scary

2:33:17 Sounds like she's talking about masturbation. Don't do it, I mean I tweet fairly irregularly. Just replace tweet with masturbate in this story is much better for Eleanor. Hold on come on Eleanor! Come on, you're stuck. No, you have to kind of trust yourself and put... I don't do it. I mean, I tweet fairly irregularly but in today's world we are encouraged to tweet to get our stories out there or promote our colleagues

2:34:13 And if we're analysts and pundits, we should get our thoughts out there. I've never done anything or said anything that's career-ending yet but we're all about two steps away from that. Actually actually I think she has said something career ending on the Twitter. It's a constitutional look! There you go...that was her tweet So...she said That nobody edits her tweets that she knows of yeah does she know how this even works because she's actually writes down in longhand and Then she goes, and she counts with their pen one two three four five six seven 120 good And she hands it off to someone they go then in tweet oh

2:34:57 That sounds like it. Let's take a look at Eleanor Clift's Twitter. Thank you! This is something, this is why we're great team John NBC polls find Obamacare gaining popularity since shutdown thank you House Repubs for doing better job selling the ACA than the White House Last from the past, New York Times digs down into the GOP shutdown strategy and finds Ed Meese. Reagan era hardline AG back in vogue!

2:35:35 She's fantastic. Is this all someone tweet number three? Someone should tell the House Republicans The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result Wow, that is that is just stellar stuff so it goes on with these sorts of lame It's not even good Obama but bought stuff. Yeah There's one here, it is out of the blue. She doesn't retweet she doesn't answer anybody's tweet you know you're supposed to do she's not even a good at this she just says John Kerry poised to make history Oh doing what? It's just all it says there's no reference there's no link All right let me uh let's get off Eleanor so to speak

2:36:25 Please but you should follow her just to know annoy yourself. No, no, no Okay a couple stories here I just wanted one two wins by 3200 followers that's how bad it is one and There was I had this on the show notes I think maybe for a week now The workers who are demolishing the Sandy Hook Elementary School at a cost of 50 million dollars To build a new school on the same site are required to sign confidentiality agreements Why? To protect the families, of course. I know It's like... Like this couldn't get any more annoying this whole ordeal So they're not allowed to talk about what they find inside when they're demolishing the place You mean like the microphones and cameras in the walls?

2:37:21 The confidentiality agreements are forbid public discussion of the site, photographs or disclosure of any information about the building where the so-called Sandy Hook shooting took place. Allegedly because we haven't seen anything No I mean it's right there with the Bin Laden pictures and and we haven't seen that crazy medical examiner around either Wonder what happened to that guy? Remember the crazy guy? He has a movie he could deal with Then this is kind of a red book, although we've I think we've checked this off several times but now headline by the way IBM's Watson wants to fix America's doctor shortage as it turns out and this this by the way is This isn't old story. We don't know no, this is a little different It's a little different

2:38:14 This is because this kind of ties into the Affordable Care Act and as you know, and I know many doctors who are just being fired. General practitioners there's no use for them Everything's going to be done by your health care provider. We've tracked this for a long time here on the show and in fact you'll what you really get is registered nurses and other administrative personnel who are going to, you know put bandages on you and subscribe prescribe certain medication of one doctor just signs off on stuff it's all going into this you know the general practitioner's office is going into this kind

2:38:52 automated mode, the only real money to be made is with specialists. So anyone who's a general practitioner you're just kind of out the hospitals are firing these guys and gals... This story says that there should there will be as many as 45,000 primary care doctors shortage by 2020 but the idea is to have IBM's Watson do your diagnosis this is a little new And they're actually talking about a trial phase that they've set up now, where you go in and answer questions on the computer which of course you can do from the comfort of your own home. Then Watson will just prescribe stuff for you. So removing people altogether from the process... This is kind of little new!

2:39:44 So it's kind of like the guys just sign off on the marijuana. There is a doctor, you know you go to these conventions in California and there is this marijuana pot thing or whatever and you go in there... Right right And there is a doctor in the corner You get your diagnosis for schizophrenia or whatever What's the deal? I'm having trouble sleeping. Okay here is the temperature Oh! I got a sore throat. Here we go. Yeah yeah oh I've got horrible headaches that won't go away. Exactly exactly Okay, well that's a nice depressing piece of news. Yeah well it's... And then there was this big article which to me was new in Fast Company which I think the article

2:40:26 or the interview was done a while ago because this is about 23andMe and I've been following this company. This is one of your pet peeves yeah it's just math everyone's DNA is going to save your life now this of course is Sergey Brin's wife who, I believe is now ex-wife aren't they getting a divorce? Or they're separated? Yeah he found a younger woman so this story by Elizabeth Murphy who took her adopted six year old daughter and made her do the DNA test. And she found that she was the spawn of Satan! Well, it's kind of crazy when you're reading through this... So she talks about Sergei and how Sergei has a 54% chance of Parkinson's based upon her $99 test. And so, y'know, he's drinking coffee and exercising in between meetings

2:41:25 Wow. Yeah, really? But really the idea, because now I understand what this company is about. It's not about really helping you... This is about scaring the crap out of ya! Well there's that. 75-80% chance maybe it would be something trying to go for the 10 but its 50-50 toss up? Well I've been reading a lot of medical... By the way just not to keep interrupting which I'm doing If you look at it's just math. Its like a meme It's just math, it's about social security. It's just math. Yeah. It's just math, just math, just math... Well the human genome is not just math I hate to tell you because this thing when did we decode this in 99? The human genome early recent yeah we still don't know how it completely works like 15 16 years ago

2:42:19 And this is a parlor trick, according to many people who are familiar with this. So again if you want to know some parlor tricks about yourself that's great but what they're really doing as I read this article it's like Twitter where they're taking your DNA information... They want to have a lot of it like 20 or 30 million samples of DNA and then they're going to start say oh well now we can do big data Right, this is this is all throughout this whole article big data and then we can figure out what really causes cancer And give us some money. Yeah and this big data thing I've got to tell you the more I hear it The more I see up yes, I'm a hundred percent with you on this one You're well, you're the one that kind of alerted it to me and it has gotten to the point now where I find it as sport to see what Amazon is recommending to me

2:43:17 It is really interesting. They have no clue they really do not know I mean yeah, they keep trying to get me to buy the diesel generator Which I had which I looked at once and which I won't buy because they're all made in China even though They say American power horse or whatever on it That's the only thing they know how to do They can do that they send you the email like oh You looked at this look at it again And that sometimes works my recommendation is if you can somehow get on somebody else's computer and go to Amazon and hope that it auto loads with their account, which it tends to do. Start looking up weird crap! Plastic dildos... Look at all these crazy things that are just nuts And then from then on every time they go anywhere they're gonna get these ads No no its worse It cropped everywhere by the way Its worse because you get the dildo ads when your on any old site that has like an Amazon thing Yeah thats what I'm saying That's kinda cool

2:44:14 Yeah. Dildo ads? Yeah, you'd be so you go to some regular some Reddit site and the dildo ads will start popping up while you're there it's a great gag to play on someone So I guess the only thing i want to say is that, um...I'm kind of on board with this. This is just a parlor trick and uh actually I was talking to the voodoo doctor about this yesterday you know? The applied kinesiology herb guy acupuncture guy yeah yeah I see him every six weeks and I'm feeling good! But he says you have caught what she has a lot of people come to him With their 23andme printouts, and he says throw it out And he said your DNA is not your destiny is the quote He says You know all you're gonna Do is if someone tells you you have this gene and you actually have this gene? And you're thinking about this gene. You're going to activate it

2:45:14 Well, I don't want to get on board with that kind of crackpot thinking. But it's possible that if you're preoccupied...I mean this is the old trick with motorcycle riding when you're driving around on a cycle same thing with cars but to a lesser extent although they did car when you were the race driver and there in your two racing around they tell you do similar things is if you look, if you're coming down a dirt road on a bike and your worried about this huge boulder that's right there. If you look at the boulder... You will crash into it! Yeah, you will crash into it. Exactly to the side of the either side of the boulder and you concentrate on that spot You will zoom past the Boulder its its and it always happens So when you're focused on something in this case your preoccupied with your genetic Mishap yeah It may be just like the boulder you may were actually maybe true Maybe the guy's righted you could possibly at least are thinking about it too much. Yeah

2:46:15 You know 50 so I will agree based on my boulder ending well, then didn't you know like the 54% and all that stuff? It's just insane yeah We should put in the red book Sergei will get Parkinson's just put it right in Yeah Put it in good to go alright. I'm gonna save this other stuff. I got some common core stuff I'll save that for for Sunday. I'm gonna have quite a Oh, you also want to do the podcast patent thing? We'll do that Sunday. All right, the podcast patent. Yeah, it's very funny. That's what I sent you a note about because you're the expert on podcasting. And patents! I'm pretty good on patents too.

2:47:01 I want to hear about this podcast patent situation. Yeah, well pretty much I can just say this that you know my name is not mentioned anywhere in any of the documentation nor is Dave Weiner This is this this is the idiocy of not only the patent system but of people who feel they need to defend something which really does no one any good and You know, other than just like yeah we got to do another lawsuit and other people paid for it. It's... To me the whole thing is a waste of energy but I do want to get into it and explain it so I'll be happy to do that on Sunday A winner! Yeah, yeah uh winner for sure um what did I have here? I had hmm

2:47:55 I think we're done. Yeah, I think we're done too. Maybe this ISS thing will just be nice. International Space Station quick 20 seconds. Swirl pictures from the international space station the astronauts saw a strange and unexpected view out their windows American astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted saw something launch into space today not sure what it was but the cloud it left behind was pretty amazing and boy is he right turns out It was a plume from a Russian military missile test. Oh yeah, space wars but nothing to see here could be all right so I've got a lot of patching to do here this will be interesting it's just gonna take you a few minutes okay alright everybody make sure you go by that ITM box dot-com take a look at that and John

2:48:51 Yes, thank you for your courage. Thank you for your courage Adam More of this type of analysis for you And I think some new things will creep onto the radar now that The big show was over as predicted everybody back to work. Yeah finally yeah well It was time we knew what happened and thank you all for the good karma for miss Mickey's well-being That's appreciated Coming to you from the sickbay here at the Travis Heights hideout in Austin Tejas. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry and from the very hot northern Silicon Valley where if you didn't take your garbage out by now You have to wait for a week. I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday Please join us and support us at dvorak org slash na For Sunday's show The Sunday Service right here on no agenda

2:49:54 Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.