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00:00 He's vaped himself off of Skype? Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday October 13th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 556 This is no agenda Packed with college-inspired volume plumping here in the Travis Heights hideout, the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. From northern Silicon Valley where leaves are falling... Why? I'm John C. Dvorak. We had five and a half inches of rain in the past 12 hours. Nice! Yeah, it was rather interesting last night driving home we were invited to Sir Scott of the Armory. Sir Scott lives here in Austin and as you know he's the knight of the No General Roundtable but also he runs The Armory...and boy does he I'd not been to his house

01:01 You have we did we went last night. Okay? Yeah, he's got the armory is there for sure Not just that but he's got that whole thing you know the reloading station and all of that oh those are cool Yeah for sure I make your own bullets or actually mostly four shotgun shells But as he actually make his own bullet 45 yeah 45 nice. Yeah, I can load You put whatever load you want you can have like a real weak shot. You know just poof doesn't do anything yeah Yeah No, I don't think he does that variety It was great. His wife and their four dogs, lovely and he had some awesome friends over who interestingly enough were economic hitmen and didn't even know it. Most economic hitman don't know it. And I even said you know so your economics... Well what I'm saying when Perkins wrote his book he didn't know as an economic hit man Yeah and they'd not heard of the John Perkins or confession to be economic hit man and then over there getting oil contracts in Uganda

01:58 Oh yeah, that's just... And seriously like oh this is great you know. This is you know we're everyone's playing it fair They're dog trainers by day economic hitmen by night It was very very interesting You get ya if they got to read the book once they read the book they'll get a clue and then they kind of you know They'll be like holy crap What are we doing? That's some good stories about about Africa actually. I'm good. I'm good to hear him Yeah, well now I need to I need a little more probing we need another dinner This is kind of the exact opposite of the Oba dinners that we have yeah this is this is kind of like hey come on in you know I just I just Dressed the deer in the garage

02:44 Got the shanks. I'm not kidding Hey, what'd you guys bring? Oh look at this goose we got hey there may be a little shot left in there So just be careful when you're sure to be careful when you Mickey looked at me like what actually she knows cuz her and Her stepdad was a hunter so she knows to be careful for the shot Yeah, you bite into one of those things and your trouble. You're over modulating just a tad I don't know what it is almost like that's okay can turn down at two different places I'm not sure where to turn it down the overall you're overdrive on the gain on the M audio Amtrak ready yeah Okay, ten nine just tell me when to stop okay? And nine eight seven six five stop stop stuff so that would do it. Yeah, just weird I don't know what it is

03:27 Okay, so yeah. No if you have I was uh Yeah, if you're eating in the country even in the English countryside and some of these Obscure places oh yeah And you get grouse I've bitten into some shot before it is not fun no Have you ever had that do you actually bit into one? Yes? Oh my God grouse I thought I had a cover because your tongue kind of tongue it for awhile as I'm good to go Wait a minute Is this another know agenda tip Tongue your meat? Yeah, you better tongue that meat. How exactly does this work? How do you tongue the meat? You feel around and a piece of meat... chew it gingerly as though there's shot in there and then go all clear! And then put you away Another no agenda tip for The Armageddon

04:16 No, so it was really good. It was good Good to know these people fantastic Of course you know sir Scott has been trying to get us to either come over the dinner or to go like shooting Get them and the old boss together And then he head out as the shootout began on this this is such that would be such a mismatch It would not work it's not a good idea Oh man, how was your trip? Because you went out and back with a quick turnaround and all of that just to make sure you're back in the studio for the show right. Yes we go through a lot of trouble the two of us to make sure we do this show generally. We do miss a show or I mean we do push it off sometimes but it's rare. I think we've done it for at least a year but so I found a couple things out that are interesting to me when you were up northwest

05:07 Yeah. Okay? I didn't realize this, but when-I was in Oregon so I was driving around and Oregon is crazy gaga over one way streets And it's actually called a one-way grid. Oh boy, and so the whole center of Portland for example is a grit as a one way grid So every streets are one way street one where the other and so you have to always have to go over You know if you wanted to go around the block you got to go around two blocks every which way they get around One block do you have roundabouts as well or is it just the one? Okay all right so So I'm from California, we can make one-way turns from a left one way to a left one way. You can make a left hand one-way turn so i'm on a one-way street and I can make it left into another one-way street under the circumstances where you could make a left. You know how that works In New York you cant do any of that. You cant even make a right turn on red lightens and im always cautious about these look... Hold on hold on hold on! You could turn right in New York

06:08 Just not New York City. That's what I meant. Oh, okay all right in fact in Texas I think here in Austin we if we can turn left on Red you can turn left on red? If it's a one-way going left yeah That's what got, that's what interested me because I was reading. I said you know let me write cause I was watching how people operated and so they said okay everyone is making a left on the left so I can make it left from one way its all one-way so I have to make it left on the left So I'm making these left turns and some guy runs the light and makes a left turn on a one race street this is terrible look at this guy just run the light didn't care

06:44 So I looked it up and according to the article, I read this. The only states that allow this which is you're on a two way street. This way we're talking about in Texas on a two-way street? No you are on one-way street turning onto left hand one-way streets Oh no! You could do that everywhere. Okay. Now this is weirder...You are on a 2-Way Street at a red light. Now that doesn't seem like you can do that, that doesn't seem like it's appropriate It is legal in Washington Oregon Idaho and Alaska Yeah all states no one gives a crap about Oh they're pretty proud of these towns Seattle is not like a lame person No its true So your on a two way street people have to know this because when you see somebody doing it Yeah thats weird particularly if your coming from the other direction and you see this happening

07:39 Yeah, but you go to course. You know you're stopped from the other direction I get it But what if you think about it? What why not when oh why you'd know you're not stopped If he's if he's going through red turning left then you're apparently coming from the other direction you have a green don't you now you have a red? I'm sorry. No you got it. You gotta read. Oh yeah, you got a red. Yeah. I'm sorry your right here. I'm dumb. Yeah Everyone's got a rad you got a rag. He's got a rat and he makes in the end It's a one-way street going to the left and he makes a left turn right in front of you. Goes right through the light! Right It's kind of freaky to see it, I saw one guy do it and I just didn't know, I thought was a scofflaw, I didn't know that this is legal And did you roll down your window and go You scofflawed you! Scoundrel

08:24 Yes, I did. Can you turn it down just another hair John? It's you're just clipping the crap out of your... Just clippin' Yeah, I don't know why... I think you should-I think you need to turn down.. I dunno he just the output of something that goes into Skype You get the output going into Skype. I got my mic turned down on Skype Okay And I won't yell so much Maybe yeah maybe just over overly excited. I'm excited because I learned something new! Yeah hey I actually learned two things new. So, uh... My daughter taught me- she was stunned by this information and she told me about it She picked it up in one of her classes You know that Yankee Doodle song they called it macaroni? Yeah he- so its yankee doodle until you stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni yeah You know what that- you have- well I don't even- I'm asking rhetorical questions but you have no clue what this means Ummm No! No I really didn't- NO

09:26 No, of course not. Oh and in fact I was thought it was just a made up bullcrap When that song was written Was the era when macaroni was invented and macaroni became a slang term for things that are ultra cool No no yeah Really? Oh, well that's... He called it macaroni. That meant he said this was cool and everybody thought it was cool that he had a feather in his hat But that kind of makes sense because you know the Mac Daddy There is possibility of Mac daddy. That may be a reference Yeah I think thats an extension of it. Thats kinda cool Of course we all think about one thing on this show

10:08 And I hate to say one thing about this The amount of email tweets and other incoming messages that I saw, I presume you receive as well John. That reference macaroni and cheese people in restaurants People at food trucks people In weird parts of holding up powdered packages prices the mac-and-cheese phenomenon kind of goes unreported on our show after we started this whole thing but it oh and

10:50 Yes, we have seen the Velveeta Ham Radio Guy commercial. The first hundred times it aired a year ago so they just started a new I guess they did a new buy or something and you can see it, you know when this commercial is airing around the country because everyone starts emailing oh you won't believe this again we've seen it. Yeah we've seen a million times in fact there is a YouTube channel that has all those new commercials for mac and cheese. The Velveeta thing? And its not just Ham there's a bunch of other ones and every time I see that commercial I listen to that guy's voice and say, Adam could have gotten that gig. Yeah! I just did another voice over...another audition what was it? It was for Sheer Madness a reality show on National Geographic about people who move from the city to raise sheep You want to hear it? Sheer, I get it. I get it. Shear. Do you wanna hear it?

11:49 Yeah, well... Connery Vox Agency Sheer Madness National Geographic. I already sound so enthused don't i? As Natalie's wool business takes off bad news could run her farm into the ground. See they had an example and it was a little kind of like a drawl, a little southern drawl type thingie. Oh you can do that no problem! Yeah I thought yeah there we go. Connery brings home a working dog And the dog isn't the only one in need of a lesson. Yeah, I know you had a different agent or something. No no, I was never up for it. I have no idea. I don't know what's going on Um...I just want to start off with some observations It seems like

12:47 And I will have to ask you some questions about what happens if... because now of course we've gone from government shutdown to not raising the debt limit and it's going to be Armageddon, etc. But something very interesting happened yesterday which i'm going to call almost a dry run and I don't know if you were probably traveling so I don't know if you caught any of this by the way did you flew right? Yeah? Did you do opt-out or can't raise my arms. You know, I do the same thing all the time and it's only one arm and i always get out of it It's no big deal Okay So I have no idea what you... I don't opt out anymore so... Okay but everything cool? You flew breeze right through everything worked yeah No it works fine everywhere Good

13:35 So yes, there's one person gave me a funny look but I said sad eyes puppy dog guys I Will say this. This is interesting the Portland TSA are douchebags Piece of paper? Yeah, yeah piece of paper. Like tissue to blow your nose or... The boarding pass in my pocket And you could- In your shirt pocket? Yeah! and they said get it out of your pocket sleeve Yeah. Now that's nothing man, listen to a recording here of the uh this is Houston airport I believe it's George Bush H Bush Airport listen to this announcement which is...I can presume TSA induced but it is a full-on airport announcement

14:28 Pay particular attention to your luggage and personal belongings. Unintended luggage, wills and personal belongings may be treated as a danger to the facility Do not be persuaded by strangers or individuals you do not know well To take articles of torture applying You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks Or jokes concerning security May result in your arrest Don't make jokes slave. Yeah, I was actually in play even before 9-11. I never heard that I Announcement this is a couple of places around the country the airports had a signage signage don't make jokes Okay, well you'll be arrested yeah Get your thrown in the brig slave

15:17 Anyway Arrested for making hey that wasn't funny arrest him and so anyway all comics yesterday And the only of course this is technology news which there's no technological reporting on Other than you know some press release that was put out by some spokeshole, which was then subsequently Copy pasted through Reuters to everybody else the the EBT Electronic Benefits Transfer System, which is essentially a credit card type application for food stamps and the SNAP program stopped working after a routine software upgrade. I always think you should do those Saturday morning at 9am that's a great time to do your software upgrades and in 17 states as reported including California

16:12 the benefits cards stopped working. And I was tracking this on Twitter, which is really... you know you can turn on CNN and anything you want but you do a pound hashtag search on Twitter and I must have seen 300 tweets every 10 seconds And now they got it turned on after hours and hours and hours. But when you think about the total number of EBTs out there, this has got to have affected 10 million people probably. And there was no rioting but I think it was an interesting run to see what happens. So you think this is a dry run? Yeah yeah I do This is Cybersecurity Awareness Month

16:59 And I'm seeing coordinated efforts of certain things for instance. It does seem a little, I forgot what company was doing this it was only in certain states that it was Xerox or some well it's 17 states and yeah but there was one company in particular. Xerox. Yeah Xerox and their idea was all we were doing is upgrading you don't do as no slipstream upgrade the middle of a financial situation like the government shut down just don't but not even that if not on us its the money drops on the 10th and I think the 17th or something so everyone had just kind of gotten their money is this a holiday weekend is this Columbus Day weekend? I don't know. Well it's a weekend people go out and they go on buy their stuff on Saturday you know, you don't do this during working hours and then and Sunday after midnight kinda thing yeah no but they did this Saturday morning

17:53 And here's what the, uh... The spokeshole said. Yeah you know we had a problem and then here is the quote It just takes awhile to reboot these systems What are you running? Server 2000? This is dumb! Takes awhile to reboot these systems No no I feel this was a test To see how people would respond How would- To me it was oh my god That's a good test We forget And we forget what if the system just doesn't work? What if the ATM just doesn't work, or it just doesn't work. Yeah that's the problem that's why cash is king! Well there's a war on cash and also coincidentally happened this weekend in The Netherlands This was very irksome hold on a second I need to bring it out here They had mayors and members of parliament

18:53 Going out on something new which is the only pin everything on Saturday. So you know in Holland they have the pin stuff, which is the personal identification number and You have your debit card We've talked about this on the show where they some places don't even really want cash at all. Right, right you bitched about this when you were over there So they took Let's see who was it that went out? It looks like mayors of several cities You know how they'll get a mayor to go out and do the big promotion and the idea is let's all use our electronic cash on Saturdays

19:30 It's much better for everybody, it works more efficient. We can do more sales this way and of course it is much safer for the stores because then they won't get robbed." And so here we literally have the established government promoting the cashless society. Promoting it! And I saw the... Yeah, that's what they're doing. It's a control mechanism. But then I saw it yeah well thank you and this is exactly what we saw with this EBT thing yesterday and then we have CCNBC uh the i guess report came out from Tufts University about how expensive it is to not use digital money. I spoke to say cash is not going to go away electronic transactions are clearly taking on more of the market share

20:14 But cash is still being used by a number of people, lot of low-income people certain minority groups and the reason is because they trust cash. It's tangible it something you can hold on to its backed by the US government they know what's good for every transaction are going to do. Another thing that authors at Tufts pointed out was their market is so fragmented with digital payment systems that people really aren't sure if I use this Will somebody accept it? So until that sort of shakes out, cash for many people is the best alternative. However... For certain transactions Are there things you can do to lower the fees? Of course there are There it is First of all think about your transactions The whole point of moving you towards the digital cashless society Is the fees

20:56 Like, oh man you know you really... because a lot of people get paid with a debit card so which I think should be illegal but their companies essentially give them a debit card and they put the their salary on the debit card. Yeah cause the company is getting kickback. Well yeah and that thing is full of fees no matter how many you use it anywhere there's a fee being charged. Yes fees, fees, there are no fees with cash But but they but the whole idea is to charge you fees when you convert your digital money into cash That's how they're really forcing this and I think the study said that you know lots of people are essentially wasting a thousand dollars a year, you know poor people by Not using digital money by not having a debit card by taking their check and cashing it And if they have a debit card by taking money out, you know charge being charged four dollars a shot. Um

21:51 It's a concerted push, but what's interesting it's happening right now all at the same time across continents. You know what I mean? No! We've been following this since the beginning...I've always been- No but this month, this particular month in one day we have- Oh okay. ...we have The Mayor is doing that, we have you know this tough study coming out and this is the one that blew me away the most when it comes to cyber Now I'm gonna replay this trailer For October 27th on the Nat Geo channel, The American Blackout. It's really dark and I have to light some candles. Are you doing nothing too? Nobody is doing anything today because there is no power right now. No power! Nothing in here works. There are no AC. Totally doesn't work. What are we supposed to do?! Where did everybody go? We gotta get some water. When are you coming to pick us up? Oh no...

22:59 The current blackout is the result of a cyber attack. Alright, so... I have to ask you a question first. Yeah? So there's no power everything's done right right well how should get on the phone and say daddy when are you gonna pick us up? Well I like how we see a news report on the television that was my favorite Like the TV, how does that work? The telescreens will continue to work. Have no fear! Yeah how do you have the TV working and the girl on the phone with all of power every part all the powers out. Of course well the phone lines will still be working... No no no no no so cyber tech takes it down. The girls not calling anybody And by the way, not to continue to interrupt but it seems to me to be much more frightening for most people today if there's if the cell tower goes out they can't talk

23:51 Well, yes that would be quite frightening but what was interesting is this This movie this theatrical event on October 27th called American blackout Just one month ago in the United Kingdom's get Mo Nation East on Channel 4 we had Black out let's listen to that trailer We are in the midst of a power cut everything has gone down The transmission network of the National Grid has lost power. There's little doubt in Westminster that we have been the victims of some kind of cyber attack We've got a lot of evidence! We will do everything necessary. There are police helicopters overhead. The national mains electricity supply will be restored as soon as possible Don't lose the plot, Fred. It's raining cotton!

24:46 Brand new drama blackout Monday at 9 Exactly the same cut that piece out with the girl just goes to whining about whatever who knows I Love it. It's exactly the same even right down to the cyber attack is the same thing on the television Which apparently does not go off during a power outage? It's fantastic. Yeah, this is all that promoted the smart grid I mean we wish of course it seems to me they're not part They're promoting it awkwardly because if you have a grid that's all that's a national grid That's really interconnected the way can be like in the Northeast yeah and piece of it goes down The whole thing goes down. I mean if you have a localized situation We haven't some damn powering an area or one of those backyard nukes

25:37 Yeah, the small ring a neighbor which is this is all academic. There's a name for it It's the SMR its small modular reactor That's what that's the official name of the backyard nuke okay? Yeah well if you have an SMR This is that could do don't need this is meaningless driven right and by the way the cell towers I think they will most will continue to work because they're all independently powered. I think the cell towers will be okay Unless it's an EMP strike. If you're a smart cyber attacker, you should be able to turn them off! If you're a smart cyber attacker... yeah Yeah, we'll work on that I don't think they have generators They got there using the power grid No, but they all have cell backups now I mean solar backups and stuff I'm pretty sure they have battery power Well that battery is not gonna last very long Not forever But i'm pretty sure most of them run independently Believe me one of our producers will let us know who I am sure has set these things up

26:37 But it's all kind of academic, John. Because in case you didn't know we are already under martial law here in the United States No I didn't know this Adam Yes yes yes It's true and this is our representative here from Texas Sheila Jackson Lee who as you know I love dearly I think she's great She's the dumbest member of Congress fantastic Pretty close There are not enough voters members of Congress that would vote right now today to open this government. It's something called a continual resolution, but it is a bill that you put on the floor that has been passed already by Republicans and Democrats in the United States Senate. This is not an idea of anyone over another person. Republican and Democratic senators have already voted for this clean bill

27:24 that we could vote on today. We have martial law, what that means and my colleagues know what it means is that you can put a bill on in just minutes." Just so you know! What? I know... That was kind of what everybody says when they see this. What?! Can you play the last part again about the martial law? Yeah she says, we have martial law. Well here it comes. Republican and Democratic senators already voted for this clean bill that we could vote on today. We have martial law, what that means and my colleagues knows what it means is that you can put a bill on in just minutes." My favorite is when she says my colleagues knows what that means... My colleagues knows what that means! Yeah, we have martial law just so you know Wow Maybe we do I don't know maybe she spilled the beans That's what I'm thinking She's dumb but why would she say that?

28:21 But there's a lot of weird stuff going on. You know, just if you look at the overall picture... Okay so EBT went down I'm gonna say that was a dry run test just to kind of do 17 states or just see how that works you know we'll check that one out um We had some dudes- See how docile the public actually is? Yes yes! Exactly then we have some dude in Arkansas who has been trying to bring down the grid with like uh a truck or something he's been sabotaging And of course, this news, we've already discussed some of this but the rate at which the Department of Defense is being kicked out and all kind started after a year ago.

29:03 When we had the Benghazi stand down and we had generals, you know leaving without their Their typical big send-off parties and people just fading into the woodwork And retiring and going away. And then we had Petraeus and just all of all this crap Is this is this the nuke firings? You're gonna talk about yes I have a very short clip that explains it It's called nukes firing Okay I had a clip too, but yours is shorter. The U.S Air Force has fired the commander of its nuclear missile force Major General Michael Carey was responsible for the air forces 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles He's been reassigned over alleged personal misconduct

29:49 Earlier this week, the Navy fired a vice-admiral who oversaw nuclear weapons. He is being investigated over gambling issues. Yeah and I have Diane Sawyer doing the report Oh, is she drunk? No but we should play the jingle anyway. Drunk again! Drinkin' cyan dial to funk again! Diane these officers have some of the highest security... Actually she was so not drunk I cut her out Clearances you can get and have been in charge of the nation's most sensitive nuclear arsenal See this is much more exciting and important when it comes from ABC News John where it really sounds like everything is very very high priority importance

30:28 A stunning chain of events. Today, Michael Carey the two-star general responsible for the nation's three intercontinental ballistic missile wings fired from his command The reason? Personal misbehavior on a military business trip This comes just 48 hours after President Obama himself relieved the number 2 in command over the nation's nuclear arsenal over his suspected use of counterfeit poker chips These follow an alarming string of general officers losing their jobs this year for inappropriate behavior, misconduct or lack of leadership. Let me just ask you a question

31:07 Mean there's one thing to be using you know counterfeit poker chips and everything But isn't the fact that you've got your generals hanging out in the casino gambling disturbing by itself Something that we all do all the time two Marine Corps generals fired less than two weeks ago for not providing proper force protection in Afghanistan which of course is not explained as An army brigadier general relieved of duty for adultery. An Army two-star general fired for groping a civilian. Gay, baby! And in March, a Navy one star removed from racially insensitive comments and abusive leadership We are a bunch of assholes

31:47 We're just raping and groping and gambling and drinking, and not protecting... This really seems pretty weird doesn't it? I think this is- alright if we do the world is upside down. Either these people are completely out of control At the highest levels of the armed forces, which means that these wars and everything are completely screwed up because these guys are the leaders. Or this is something... there's something going on that we have yet to figure out how get rid of a whole layer of these guys so we can replace them with stooges. Let me go back to what clip did I just play before? We're under martial law my friend. These are the people... Yeah, these guys aren't going along with it Exactly! These are the guys who were like normal dudes you know they grab some ass they gamble a little bit but one thing they won't do is turn on the American people They're like no we're not gonna storm in and occupy the country Oh oh I'm fired?

32:45 Yeah, I think these are guys who... This is a bit of an Alex Jones kind of a... Yes. If you want to- You might as well just call me an asshole if you want but yeah that's fine. I mean you can do that Wow! That was really low blow John it was unnecessary It just seems to me now But think of no, no. No let me finish my thought as I said Waters at not Maxine waters but the Jackson whatever name is Maxine water word yeah Maxie versus the other one uh she's actually a Einstein compared to this Sheila Jackson yeah

33:22 But think, John... Maybe we're in a martial law. Should we be looking doing little more research into this? Well, we are in a state of emergency I mean We've been under perpetual state of emergency re-signed every year since 9 11 but remember the first guys to go were the ones that That would not stand down when help was being called for from Benghazi and then they were relieved from duty They wanted to send planes from Italy remember yeah these are the first guy's that went like shut up Go And then all of a sudden, you know we have the just all you know I don't know. I mean there's 30 more seconds. Hold on one thing these guys will disappear they I mean they won't get killed iIdon't think but they're going to disappear and they're going to have signed some document You do want your pet here it goes like this? You're the guy who just fired ya wait a minute Do you want your if you have to sign this non-disclosure about what you know All the basic everything you think might have been going on

34:18 and all the rest of it, then deny that you can't talk to anybody. So sign this." I said, do you want your pension? It's like 90 percent... Oh i think oh i think it goes much further. These guys got so much money! No no they did not. They wanted that. No one would not sign that document. You want that pension by the way if you don't take sign these will also shoot you maybe yeah well not yeah this this would get my attention Don't shoot me. Last spring, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was so concerned about all the high-profile cases he sent a letter to Pentagon brass urging a recommitment to ethical leadership That was the letter and believe me it wasn't ethical leadership as what's get on board with the program fellows Hey John would you like to buy some seeds?

35:04 Interesting. Well, now let's just take this to water filters for sale. Let me take this to its logical website through his logical conclusion. Yeah okay so here we have the of course everyone is talking about this now here is the World Bank president away from a very dangerous moment I urge US policy makers to quickly come to a resolution before they reach the debt ceiling deadline. The closer we get to the deadline, the greater the impact will be for the developing world. Inaction could result in interest rates rising, confidence falling and growth slowing." So there's some trouble with the banks?

35:52 And the biggest problem came out with the announcement and I have a and I actually Haven't done one of these in a long time. I hopped on the conference call The you know, the quarterly conference call for JP Morgan Chase because yeah We're going Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Have a clip right? And so as we know, you know There's there's been some some minor regulatory issues just little stuff And for the first time in I think like eight or nine years, since 2004 JPMorgan Chase reported a loss of $398 million dollars and for the quarter. This is you know this is the first time they've lost money with our with the genius Jamie Dimon

36:43 And I thought it was okay, you know that makes sense that they've got this... They paid out seven billion dollars in minor regulatory things and fines. But when you hear the CFO talking here It's unbelievable what's going on over there. At this time i would like to turn the call over to JP Morgan Chase's chairman and CFO Jamie Dimon and chief financial officer. Listen to this lady who is the CFO she's pretty funny. Mary Ann Lake. Ms. Lake please go ahead Thank you. Good morning everyone, I'm going to take you through the earnings presentation which is available on our website and everything's lovely please refer to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements at the back of the presentation this is the anything we say here can't be used against us The firm made a net loss of 380 million dollars for the third quarter on the back of very significant litigation expenses So I want to take you first page two

37:39 We've added this page for this quarter only as we want to be as transparent with you as we can be and give you a complete picture of our litigation reserves. Now she's talking about litigation reserves so this is the charge they took on this quarters earnings for money they believe that will have to spend litigation and she's going to tell us how much that is and what this litigation is about. And the current perspective on the evolution of our reasonably possible range of losses for litigation, and as you know as transparent we would like to be, we are necessarily constrained in what we can actually say. Having said that on page two... What she's saying is she can't tell you everything. Why?

38:21 Because they're constrained by the negotiations they're having right now with the government. The government has a gun to their head on these Sorry, can you yeah? Well you're gonna. Can you hang I don't like to do this But can you hang up and read out or call me back because it's not that I'm watching the packets We're not losing any package whatsoever Yeah, but Skype is cutting you out so much that is getting to be incredibly annoying I can't hear half of these points You were trying to make okay, so this should be better as we're more back So yes, so the what she is now going to tell us about is Yes

38:58 What? Can you hear me or is it not working for you? You know what I did, I made a mistake. What did you do? What's your mistake? I hit the call answer with video and so i got this stupid thing on the screen. What stupid thing?! Oh no! Alright well let's do it again then So what we are about to hear from these...the happy chipper British woman is how much money they have reserved which results in this loss and of course they can't tell you everything that's going on. And this came out like a day before the earnings all of a sudden, like boom we're gonna lose money it's horrible We can't tell you exactly what's going on but wait until you hear how much money I'll start by saying that we appreciate that the litigation expense of $9.2 billion dollars What? Yeah so... So th-this is part of their- They've already spent seven

39:53 The litigation has spent nine point, I think she said two billion dollars. Highly charged and very volatile? We're talking about JP Morgan Chase and Jamie Dimon, golden boy of Wall Street. So they are blackmailing! They're doing something... Thumbs up I mean it's well give you the number and then we'll just finish this in the last 44 seconds 23 billion dollars they've had to reserve for litigation For interest on penalties And it all relates back to mortgage-backed securities Things have been very fluid

40:39 and the situation escalated to the point where we're facing very large premiums and penalties, the level of which has gone far beyond what we reasonably expected. However those are the facts that we're dealing with today in our reserving actions this quarter and are trying as far as possible put these issues behind us So let me quickly take you through the table on top page 2 which is a roll forward of our reserves We started 2010 with 3 billion dollars in reserve added around $28 billion through the third quarter, including the actions this period and have settled a little less than eight billion dollars across matters. Which leaves us with 23 billion dollars approximately of ending reserves which relates to a broad range of matters and includes a significant reserve for mortgage related matters including both securities and repurchase litigation." These guys are effed!

41:38 23 million? Well, that's weird because the stock is actually... No it went up! It went up!! Yeah the stock went up. I don't understand how does this work what is going on?! This to me and throughout this I didn't record all of the I mean I recorded all the call but now have any more clips with a couple of questions came in about CCAR And CCAR is something that is taking place in this month as well, which is the Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review. This is an annual exercise the Fed does to ensure institutions have robust forward-looking capital planning processes that account for their unique risks and sufficient capital to continue operations throughout times of economic and financial stress

42:22 So this is taking place this month and one of the questions about the C car for JPMorgan Chase was are you also prepared for a counterparty failure, which would be very similar to the Lehman Meltdown of 2008 so I'm just taking all this stuff John. I'm looking at the EBT thing and cybersecurity awareness month Got all this blackout crap, and then this stuff is happening. I Mmm. I don't know but you know we know anything something's up there may be

42:58 It just may be. We've got the World Bank guys saying... I mean, what really happens if we don't raise the debt limit in five days or whatever? What really happens? Can you answer because no one is talking about what really happens. Did the banks just start to explode and ATMs don't work out? What really happens? Well, it means that we can't expand the government because most of what we're dealing with here is new programs that have been promised. And we just shift our... We just take the income that comes in from taxes and pay our bills but we can't pay any new bills

43:35 Right, but this is not what the bankers are saying. Nobody knows what's gonna happen That's why nobody's saying this but we do have an income in this country It's a huge one and we do have an outflow which is a huge one We just can't borrow more money to you know to pad the To pad the thing we just act pretty much have to spend what we get in Saturday, Jamie Dimon said banks are already spending quote huge amounts of money preparing for the possibility of a default which he said would threaten the global recovery and this apparently has to do with the repo mark market. The repo market I guess there's this kind of shadow banking system where cash is borrowed at leverage it 40 or 50 times

44:22 the rate and the Treasury securities are, or Treasuries are being used to securitize those loans. And if that would change for some reason if the interest rates would change that apparently would undermine the fragile system. The house of cards? Yes! Yeah, the dominoes exactly. That's a wrong word. The house of cards thank you. Fragile system equal house of cards yes That's what I'm reading. Well, I don't know...I don't think this is going to happen? I think this is a bluff? By whom? Who's the bluff by?

44:59 Think is by everybody. I think the Democrats are bluffing the Republicans are bluffing the president's bluffing They're all trying to make the other guys look bad This is the kind of government we have working for us We have Republicans blamed for everything by the president says they don't even with a this is it's it's it's all you know, they each side has their little Bullcrap the Republic according to the present The Republicans want to take it or leave it right? You have to do everything we say hello And then the Republicans say, is my way or the highway according to Obama? They say Obama just see we were trying to meet with him. He says it's my way or the highway. So both sides are pretty much saying the same thing about the other side and what's ironic of course is that the Republicans are doing the worst job of public relations on this and they look like the bad guys because you know they're against health care there. It makes them look...they just do really mediocre publicity. Yeah, they kind of look like incredible a-holes

45:56 Yeah, they put themselves in this position. Both sides are the a-holes but it's beside the point to rip Hold on a second John before you before you go any other okay? The we're back hello Hello alright so While we had the recording unpause we figured all out We know exactly what's happening is too bad. We can't share it with anybody yeah, that's a shame It was too complicated So no you were basically saying that this is all one big bluff and This has always been our thesis that this is just one big show. It's all you know it well for media attention But when you get bankers getting in on it, yes, that's new That's new yeah, but don't forget my other thesis Which is the idea as you can make the market move up and down? You can make a lot of money Yeah, but this is what I do understand because the market unless they're all Short on the market And they're ready for the markets only been kind of going up hasn't it

46:52 The market wants to go up. Yeah, yeah But the numbers don't make sense There's no reason for the market they want to co-op so much because it's really we're still in a kind of a stagnant air You know era but okay Wow Okay So you're saying all this is being done just for personal profit and gain that would be my basic thesis about everything I'm down with it. It's just like wow okay, so this is the biggest pump and dump i've seen in a while This kind of beats 50 cents pump and dump They have lots of money you know Pump and dump schemes generally involve penny stocks And its like you can move them pretty quickly But if you have billions of dollars to move into out of the market You can't just casually do that

47:35 because it moves the market too much. But if you have the market pre-moved by a bunch of bull crap, then you can make these kinds of moves. It's funny because we were at on Friday Miss Mickey and I were at Ride which is where we know I'm still doing it John twice a week going to this spin class And so the owner and his, I think his wife owns it or whatever they own it together. But he's a banker and in New York... He works for Deutsche Bank and he is in New York three to four days out of the week. Then he has an apartment there then flies back to Austin for the other half of the weekend

48:11 And he's always on the phone. He's a nice guy, you know? I mean we're supposed to have dinner that hasn't worked out or whatever but whenever i see him walking out of the parking garage or he's always pacing outside and you know how I used to be in The Pod Show days remember? Outside smoking? Smoking on the phone the whole time Phone to my head You know on a conference call Or some crap like that and he's even noticing himself That this is kind of weird Oh there...I'm sorry Because he participates In some of the classes Said oh there it was again on the phone, you know I said yeah banker so yeah a banker So I said this must be great business You know get all that free money and then you know You just get to invest it and you you borrow you borrow it for zero point zero three percent And then you make two percent on it. He looks at me goes like you're not one of those in the Fed guys Are ya?

48:59 And I was and I'm like oh shit, I'm like and I and I pulled a Dvorak. I went no No man, I think we should be doing 800 billion dollars into the market every month. I don't think we're doing enough We got to get out of this. We gotta pump in ten times as much Anyone like you could just see him going really confused like oh Wait a minute, does this guy really know what's going on? It was the best thing ever. So thank you for saving me." You're welcome and I stick with that! I'm not insincere when i say this by the way. I know you're not which is but at that moment like if I say uh yeah like I think we should end The Fed... We'll never have dinner with them it's gonna mess up any relationships Like we can't have this like yeah man

49:51 whatever her name is. Yelly. She's gonna rock! All right, so but we have like five days and then we'll see what happens with the you know it seems to me that if you look at now because there's a video that's been floating around I didn't clip it but in the House of Representatives they essentially passed a vote that made it so that no resolution or bill can come on to the floor unless it's brought to the floor by Think was Mitch McConnell for some reason. I don't know exactly how no Boehner. No, no, it was McConnell but Boehner Gets the gets to do it or something again This only came in this morning So I haven't vetted at all But apparently there's no other way can happen so they are in complete control of this process and we know that several people have been voted In who said to their constituents? I will I will stake my entire reputation on killing Obamacare for you

50:43 That's why they were voted and they're not going to change their vote because they'll get shot. Exactly, yeah well no if you go to some little area and promise them some specific thing that your gonna do because this group wants you to do it They say okay, we're voting in because we want you to do this. This is it This is the one thing It would be like this it would be if I said okay vote me into Congress and I'll be your congressman And I guarantee you that I will work towards a legalization federal Legalization even though it's not necessary of marijuana and a vote came up and I went oh well You know we can compromise no I would be railroaded out of town

51:27 That's why you voted me in and how many that's what I guess what they're calling the tea party Which by itself is bullshit. It's total bull crap. Bullshit, they would totally hijack something that existed way before... Yeah let's remind everybody that the original Tea Party was really Ron Paul's operation and every time they took a straw vote on who should be the next president it was always Ron Paul and when CPAC had a big meeting and they took a straw poll, Ron Paul always won finally hijacked the whole thing to get Ron Paul out of there and even at CPAC they won't put his name up anymore. No, because that would be bad!

52:07 And you even got to question his motives at this point. There's so much weirdness going on in the world, but regardless they just hijacked this brand of the Tea Party and now everyone is a terrorist and it's just... The whole thing is like I don't see it coming to a happy resolution So we're gonna hit that five days and then what? No they are not gonna... They don't have the guts literally to see what would happen if they actually failed to raise the debt limit. Alright, so you're putting that in the book? Yeah no they'll do it and it'll be at the last minute right It will be like for six months or something They'll do some little thingy right? Yes a continued resolution and then everybody will take credit for it Right okay Obama will take credit for it No no no If at the last minute

52:59 There's some form of resolution and the limit is raised. You and I take credit for it, my friend." Okay. We did it! We saved the entire economy of the world from the brink. But someone's gonna profit? I guarantee it. Yeah, it's not going to be us because we don't know what the hell we're doing. That's okay because... We know how to analyze news but just don't know how to profit from these scams. Because we're not inside the scam that's the problem! No, we are not but we have people who support this program and that's why I'd like to say good morning to you John C Dvorak It's funny you would say that because you know what happens after your reboot a computer? You need to open your spreadsheet again

53:42 I have to go all the way back into the mail system. That's okay, log in let me explain how this works? I have to log in and then I have to scroll down where till I find Eric the shill spreadsheet in there And then I have to click on the download button and open with Microsoft Excel and then it opens that's what I have to do and In the morning to you Adam curry and in the morning at all the ships of sea boots on the ground feeding The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there hey In the morning to the human resources in the chat room no agenda stream calm. No agenda chat net in the morning there, mr Oil sir get most slave I toast void zero of the cast of thousands who keep this thing on the air We highly appreciate all that and I would like to remind everybody that in the case of Armageddon

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55:10 I think we should yeah, we should do the whole show on Twitter. I want to thank our artists and we had a great piece of art from Chunyi Ch-u-n-j-e-e chunyi who We used what was it? What did we have on five? Oh is the big 5-5 Of course It was for our 555th episode and we appreciate all the art that has submitted at no agenda art generator comm I had a meeting with The new lady in charge of iTunes podcasts. She was in Austin and so first of all she promised she'd put us into some promotional rotation Nice, yeah. Yeah now she's great. It's funny it's I'm looking at the turns out. She's 24 I'm having a meeting with my daughter This is the weirdest thing ever

55:56 She doesn't even know MTV played music videos, let alone who I am. I'm not kidding! Right well this is better... Yeah maybe get used to it and so she promised us a rotation also you said when you start your new technology podcast i'll also promote that as good but also she said you know all the art you have so why don't you put together a book For iTunes, you can give it away for free. You don't have to charge money for it." So we could still have our donation model in place and apparently you can make these really amazing multimedia books or something and she said that would be great for a e-book on the iTunes and she would promote that too! Oh okay... I'm like well someone will make it We should do that Someone could put together get the tools and figure out

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1:03:40 That was the Japanese minister of tourism, I think. Stop laughing! Mark Randall, 21312 in Halifax Nova Scotia. Thank you for your courage John and Adam by my calculation this should complete my knighthood great job on the show got a book for ya The Terror Factory all about the FBI creating terrorists out of imbeciles Oh! The Terror Factory nice yeah sounds like a book to read A couple arrested in Canada for plotting July 1st Canada Day terrorist bombing fits the cycle perfect as neighbors report the couple being too stupid to make bombs We'd love to get some more karma and a fractal if you can find it. And he has his accounting here for now. Oh yes, absolutely. You've got karma. Nice! The Terror Factory... I'm gonna look that one up. That sounds like an interesting... Udo Bereslov Marinov out of Eliso Viejo California Can you send some house buying karma so i don't get outbid?

1:04:38 This is what's happening now again. Yeah, yeah and the sellers accept my lowball thank you for congratulations on your sixth. Yeah low ball karma coming your way Boris Love. You've got karma. Mad enough? And finally sir upstart Josh Charles in East Melbourne Victoria $200 and he says there's a note I can't find it. You know I have. Josh or sure I have the note so somehow Sir upstart Josh and a cast of thousands there have created slave Mart CEO And we I think we promoted it, but then we kind of lost touch with it and you have to have you seen this slave mart dot co. This is Quite an India It's a store and they have put in the end this is a store with essentially their own made-up no agenda swag

1:05:31 Let me just go to it myself and they've made like fantastic shirts and with designs I've never seen before Everything costs $33 of course we want you to shut up slave They've got have you seen this thing now to all shit every picture yet Every models pictures gotta guy given the finger with a gas mask with the gas mask But there's like a shirt to all ships at sea in Australia, so this makes things easier than if the ship stuff there I'm assuming. I think so, i don't know It's an Australian operation. It is an Australian operation isn't it? Those would be 33 Australian dollars Good group of shirt designs including some of these are very artistic. Very artistic. The in the morning attack of the killer drone Yeah and he has a poster. Please send me a copy this poster So somehow we did actually they were very mad

1:06:30 and he sent a very mad email. Look at the picture of the guy we give him the fingers, obviously mad all the time! I know and then you said like you don't support this store and then you know we've got money for it... Sounds like Eric. No maybe it is Eric with the gas mask on? I don't know but I was like oh man yeah and then they closed the store they were so mad that you're like password only I'm like I didn't even think about it So I said, I'm sorry. You know we suck. I don't know it's like you know Sorry dude We're kind of busy like doing the show that's what we're good at and we liked this attack of the killer drones poster Yeah, there's a winner nice one It is nice so we highly appreciate what you guys are doing and we put you on There's a picture of the poster on a wall yeah How big is this poster doesn't say my size poster looks huge? Yes? It's probably a good poster

1:07:22 Huh. All right, there's your plug slavemart.co You're in Australia you want to get some swag from the from Noah Genishow this is fine. We approve! Yeah we'll never hear from us again God He just dropped a $200 donation and he gets all the promotion That's our VIG They've sold some stuff apparently and that's our take Somebody... There's an artist Oh yeah, somebody's an artist. Yeah it could be yeah somebody's an artist all right well thanks guys we really appreciate our donations from uh for show five five whatever five five six indeed and um we need your support to continue the program so we can bring you the type of

1:08:09 analysis that no one else can because they're completely compromised. Devorak dot org slash N A with native advertising thank you for putting that into the newsletter, that was a good one yeah we should probably discuss that little bit cause it's disgusting We have talked about it on this show I didn't realize it was so rampant and also as a PR mentioned Brad Rider set up an IFTTT for us. You familiar with this phenomenon? No, not familiar with this at all. Ifttt is if this then that And so he has added an IFTTT. It's a recipe, this is crazy stuff but you sign up for this thing and now if... You know how we send out the bat signal? And if you have the No Agenda app then you get a notification? So if you add this IFTTT recipe to your account you'll get a text message when we fire at the Bat Signal

1:07:22 Huh. All right, there's your plug slavemart.co You're in Australia you want to get some swag from the from Noah Genishow this is fine. We approve! Yeah we'll never hear from us again God He just dropped a $200 donation and he gets all the promotion That's our VIG They've sold some stuff apparently and that's our take Somebody... There's an artist Oh yeah, somebody's an artist. Yeah it could be yeah somebody's an artist all right well thanks guys we really appreciate our donations from uh for show five five whatever five five six indeed and um we need your support to continue the program so we can bring you the type of

1:08:09 analysis that no one else can because they're completely compromised. Devorak dot org slash N A with native advertising thank you for putting that into the newsletter, that was a good one yeah we should probably discuss that little bit cause it's disgusting We have talked about it on this show I didn't realize it was so rampant and also as a PR mentioned Brad Rider set up an IFTTT for us. You familiar with this phenomenon? No, not familiar with this at all. Ifttt is if this then that And so he has added an IFTTT. It's a recipe, this is crazy stuff but you sign up for this thing and now if... You know how we send out the bat signal? And if you have the No Agenda app then you get a notification? So if you add this IFTTT recipe to your account you'll get a text message when we fire at the Bat Signal

1:09:07 Nice. Yeah, I'm like well yeah that's we should have had that 10 years ago Well makes total show ten years ago but it's fine and and anyway And it made even more sense because last night Miss Mickey got a government giant voice system on her iPhone What did you tell her to do stay indoors flash flood in your area until 2 a.m? There's no flash flooding your area was last night Yeah. In your specific area you're that low? You're at zero altitude? There were flash floods all over Austin last night, yeah but it was interesting because we'd never had one of those and she has the new iPhone or the iPhone not the new one but she has an iPhone 5 and I guess with iOS 6 not 7 but six they included the government alerts Oh yeah you gotta do that! She said oh my god because it was going like whoop whoop

1:10:04 Cuz I told it do not turn that off you know we have to know how this works and this was the first time and We got a giant voice system alert, huh did he come in sound like a voices no Unfortunately not now then just has a message I'm like, how stupid do you have to be to not know there are flash floods? It was coming out of the heaven with buckets like swimming pools were overturned. I didn't need the government to inform me of the flash flood believe me But this is the dumbing down of the populace. Yeah, no you have to be led around by the nose Exactly otherwise it's like you know what's the point? All right thank you very much everybody appreciate it Our executive producers associate executive producers as you know and again these credits are completely valid anywhere where credits are taken And please continue to go out propagate our formula our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth

1:11:18 And I would like to say thank you for your courage, John. Thank you for your courage! And today by presidential proclamation General Pulaski Memorial Day Congratulations General Pulaski By presidential proclamation International day of the girl Today's the day of the girl? Today is the day of the girl Might have been yesterday I have Watermelon Head talking about that. He did a whole thing on it. This guy, this guy... So he's over here and he's over there. I went to the State Department website to try and look for a clip but couldn't find anything worthwhile But he's at meetings, he's at conferences

1:11:59 He's in Afghanistan one minute, he's in Paris meeting with somebody the next minute. Then he is in New York City giving a keynote at some bullcrap seminar... He loves it! This what he has dreamed of! He's traveling more than Hillary! This what he has dreamed of and then gets to do the same little happy international day-of-the girl thing As father of two daughters I know deep down that this unacceptable I believe with all my heart that supporting the rights of girls is the moral and just thing to do. How about kids in general and as someone who sits today in the same chair where extraordinary women like Hillary Rodham Clinton Condoleezza Rice and Madeline Albright Yeah, three women who I do not want to bump into in a dark alleyway sat before me. I know that it's also the smart thing to do Investing in girls is a critical part of our duty to promote prosperity security and peace around the world

1:13:00 Common sense tells us that empowered girls grow up to be empowered women. Oh, hold on a second Let me just write this down Empowered girls grow up to be empowered women okay? They grew up to be empowering mothers leaders and innovators They grew up to make the world a better place. Thanks to a number of global partnerships and programs led by the State Department." Okay, wait a minute! Are you ready for the department's or the state departments' programs? Wait for it... I love these! Like Tech Girls. Tech girls! Tech girls! Let's find this program. Tech girls. Hold on a second.

1:13:50 Tech girls I guess State Department would have to do oh, yeah and Google already knows State Department Let's see tech girls. Maybe we can get in on this if we wear a dress You anyway? US the department of state tech women no techno empowering girls Hmm here it is State Departments techy exchange program for teenage girls Yeah with all this bullcrap maybe that sort of ah Wow, now it makes sense. You know this thing about Twitter has no women on their board and there's no women in tech and all this bullcrap? This is bull crap! There are tons of women in tech. No I know but this part of it... Now what makes sense that I know about these Tech Girls

1:14:39 The CEO of one of the largest corporate, real large corporation not a on paper corporation is IBM as a woman. You got Marissa Meyer over here she's the one there's a bunch of women in tech lot of the small companies are run by women yeah a lot of them hey I don't know about you but my house is run by woman There ya go! I'm not running anything here I'm a worker bee and next scholars Next Scholars Yeah, and great USAID programs like safe schools. Safe schools! We have made important progress yeah good work watermelon head And also today by presidential proclamation Blind Americans Equality Day Okay And I would like you to know that we do a lot for the blind in fact we do five hours A week for the blind right this show is obvious yeah well here so i got an email here from

1:15:34 David the tech guy, davidthetechguy.com Hi my name is David I'm blind and autistic now that's a combo right there hi i listen to no agenda I'm blind and autistic congratulations yeah that's the kind of good for me I don't care I just got my twice weekly dose of the best drug ever No Agenda Now think about it, we've looked at what the blind get when it comes to programming. It sucks! Oh yeah? It sucks you know so I think were doing a real service Somebody mentioned they said they were looking at one of these government health websites and says if your blind then blah blah blah You can't read this how do you know that Well remember when we're talking about cadence of the guy in the assistant attorney general in Connecticut

1:16:25 Right, which was a we believe there's a blind to cadence. Yes Well speak David the tech guy comm says I think I know why blind people have a weird cadence while talking because we use A screen reader with a horrible voice cord called eloquence or deck talk unfortunately I don't have... we don't have much material in braille, so we have to listen to most of our materials with these crazy stupid voices. I believe that when we listened to the computer for years, we fall into this robotic speech pattern! I find myself having to yank myself out of it because i get teased at school about it. Really?

1:17:04 You're teasing the blind autistic kid? What kind of an asshole are you?! I'm not worried about teasing, but think it needs working on so that I don't look like a freak in a job interview or an important event that i will need to go through to get a job. I've been bullied because of my disabilities and believe you take it in the correct way, you can make yourself a stronger person and build your character up. By the way, I want to be a sysadmin from the time i touch the computer when I get out of high school. I'll do whatever it takes to achieve this and will not sap social security off the taxpayers of America by the way I'm 16 would love to donate when I become free from my parents have a job all donated least a knighthood

1:17:50 David, you keep going man. davidthetechguy.com You keep going I like this as a kid 16 in high school listening to no agenda getting bullied and just saying fuck it night i like that That's the kind of listener I want Another day we might be overlooking Luke Vanderhelm sent us this note. Did you see it? It's happy International Failure Day in Finland. It's funny, I was like...I don't know if i should do this one! Yeah talk about it so that yeah Finn celebrate international failure day failures the last and their logic by the way is impeccable which is typically Fins are now some of the smartest people in the world they're

1:18:38 their educational system is the best and they deconstructed the entrepreneurial system in the United States and its base. largely on failure. If you start a small little tech company, maybe you can get some money right off the bat and then you fail. If you fail once, you'll get more money for the next one because it's seen as a benefit. And so if you fail the second time, you'll get even more money for your third effort because now really understand this situation. The worse you fail, the more money you get! So they figured this out and they say that failures are the last taboo in Finnish society according to the group behind the day. They encourage people to cast off their inhibitions and lose their fear of messing up, which apparently is a problem in Finland. The many current business leaders have gone from one failure to the next said the event's main organizer. The most interesting things are not success but they often rough growth stories that have led to success." And it says the students say they believe that overcoming the fear of failure is nothing short of a lifetime or lifeline I'm sorry for creative types so that's actually a good thing

1:17:50 David, you keep going man. davidthetechguy.com You keep going I like this as a kid 16 in high school listening to no agenda getting bullied and just saying fuck it night i like that That's the kind of listener I want Another day we might be overlooking Luke Vanderhelm sent us this note. Did you see it? It's happy International Failure Day in Finland. It's funny, I was like...I don't know if i should do this one! Yeah talk about it so that yeah Finn celebrate international failure day failures the last and their logic by the way is impeccable which is typically Fins are now some of the smartest people in the world they're

1:18:38 their educational system is the best and they deconstructed the entrepreneurial system in the United States and its base. largely on failure. If you start a small little tech company, maybe you can get some money right off the bat and then you fail. If you fail once, you'll get more money for the next one because it's seen as a benefit. And so if you fail the second time, you'll get even more money for your third effort because now really understand this situation. The worse you fail, the more money you get! So they figured this out and they say that failures are the last taboo in Finnish society according to the group behind the day. They encourage people to cast off their inhibitions and lose their fear of messing up, which apparently is a problem in Finland. The many current business leaders have gone from one failure to the next said the event's main organizer. The most interesting things are not success but they often rough growth stories that have led to success." And it says the students say they believe that overcoming the fear of failure is nothing short of a lifetime or lifeline I'm sorry for creative types so that's actually a good thing

1:19:41 And that's today. That's the best that today is it with the podcast already international failure day, and that's right now I've failed in many things yeah you can't help it and you Thanks Sorry, you just leave me wide open for these games well speaking of big fail this was quite a surprise then Norwegian The Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2013 is to be awarded to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, or PCW, for its extensive work in eliminating chemical weapons. You know these guys if anyone needs the Curry-Dvorak consulting group it's this outfit

1:20:30 I mean, they just look at their day. They seem to look over all the news stories What is everyone talking about? Let's give them a prize That's how Obama got his award but last year they gave it to the entire European Union No right because it was in the news a lot these guys are terrible did Norwegian Peace Prize guys stink I don't understand. They had a brand, you know? It was Mother Teresa... it was Nelson Mandela... maybe even Martin Luther King Let's take a look! Yeah, I think Martin Luther King got the Nobel Peace Prize This was a big deal But it was supposed to be an individual or two individuals if they had like a partnership Who neutered these guys

1:21:22 I think it's the US that is doing this. The CIA is taking over the place Why? Yeah, why? I don't understand So because the conversation right now... we've noticed this already They have changed the entire Dialogue they've changed the script. They've changed the narrative of The Syrian thing and and this draws attention to it and everything draws attention or whatever's going on that benefits us I do have a clip showing exactly how the narratives changing in Syria, and it's like It's like I'm listening to this going for one thing is there good? This is report on something happened a few months back And it's like are you kidding me with this oh

1:22:09 And where is Mike? What clip is it? I got, I got right here. Human Rights Watch charged today that rebels in Syria killed at least a hundred and ninety civilians and kidnapped more than two hundred others in attacks on August 4th It happened during a rebel offensive in the coastal province of Latakia Witnesses told of entire families being executed Human Rights Watch says Islamist groups including two linked to Al-Qaeda led the offensive The coordinated nature and advanced planning that went into this operation shows that this is not just the work of some rogue fighters within these rebel groups, but rather this was a planned attack against the civilian population. For that reason we do believe that the abuses may amount to crimes against humanity and they certainly amount to war crimes."

1:23:02 Now, the thing you have to... when you listen to this report which is definitely a narrative change that keep us off. Okay Syria's over we've done a deal with the Russians whatever has happened has happened and now were out of there and now we're going turn the tables on these rebels but with this new narrative right? The question in my mind when I'm listening to human rights person going on about the crimes against humanity when she says it was planned in advance How does she know this? Is this an intelligence operation, they got moles in the place and they can give them this. She made... I believe not only happened probably did because there's a ethnic struggle between the Alawites and they mentioned that and the Sunnis so that's not a struggle it's an attack. The Alawite have been sent in to actually attack Well you know the Alawites are the Assad side

1:23:54 These are the guys that were sent in from probably Hezbollah or whoever and they're attacking the Alawites because there's these two tribes that are fighting. And this is, the rebels are all of the bad guys right now they're the bad guys which is what they should have been from the get-go and they're trying to kill the Alawite's and this is a crime against humanity. They're assassinating families but this has been going on since the beginning! Yeah if we take care attention to it but we didn't have the narrative we wanted to get whatever deal we got with the Russians which is now over yeah and that peace price plays right into this into this new narrative and I think that Wow all of these have been playing into it from Nelson Mandela to Obama let's look at this because I've just pulled up the list and if you'll be able to help a little bit with the state of the world in these particular times so in 1963

1:24:48 The Red Cross won, but there was a hundred years of existence. 1964 Martin Luther King Jr., and they pretty much killed him right after that didn't they? We had 1965 UNICEF 1969 International Labor Organization so it's not you know then we have... You have to remember there is no prize in 66 and 67 during the Vietnam War That's right! Not awarded. You're absolutely right Why was that? Well, the narrative for the Vietnam War was never... wasn't fully resolved. They didn't know quite how to deal with it I guess. But they could have given it to somebody else! If they're going to give it then they could have given it to Ho Chi Minh for all we know. This is very suspect that they just have a hole

1:25:39 66 and 67. Take a look, 66-67... And also in 68 there is one but it's who was Rene Kissinger? Then 73 we get Kissinger then... There you go! Yeah exactly Hey can I get one of these? How does Henry Kissinger if you think about it get a Nobel Peace Prize ever?! and then Amnesty International got it in 77. Sadat in 78 which was combined with the Menachem Begin, Mother Teresa in 79 then it went to United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in 81. Tutu in 84 Lech Walesa 83 actually skipped him just doing the big names 85 it was the international physicians for the prevention of nuclear war well that must have been the height of the cold war

1:26:32 Well, it was definitely before the wall fell. Right then we got Elie Wiesel who was the big Holocaust guy in 86 then 88 United Nations peacekeeping forces see what was that? The Dalai Lama because we're trying to you know We're negotiating with China right and we were trying to give them the needle Yeah, yeah, we'll give it to the Dalai Lama And in 93 its Nelson Mandela and Willem de Klerk both...that was the whole South Africa thing okay Then we got... We also had Gorbachev in 90, you gotta don't overlook him. Yeah, yeah, Kofi Annan in 2001 so if you now look at this in 2006 it was... What did Kofi Annan do? Wasn't he even part of a corrupt operation of the guns for oil or something? Oh yeah! The food for oil? But think about it how cool is the name Kofi

1:27:30 Kofi's cool. I mean, that's just it that's a great macaroni It's macaroni right? Yes kofi is macaroni and then we have a bank the Grameen Bank Al Gore in 2007 with the IPCC Yeah look its the IPC see and al gore shared the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 That's when when the movie there was movie promotion time. Oh Now this thing's rigged and then so there's a couple people in between gotta get the gun to their head Hey, you want to live here? So you give it to that's very interesting. You know I might as well get into this now. So Here it is let me play this clip for ya

1:28:12 Here it is. Listen very carefully, this is Aaron Burnett talking about Snowden and on the box she's got Valerie Plame a known CIA operative who was outed actually. Right, she's got a little more background she just came out with the book and so she's on a book tour. And they're booking her on anyone who is part of the Council in Foreign Relations that she's on their show it's hilarious to watch this So there are couple things that are interesting one is I did some research on this award which I want to share with you but listen to what now we know that she CIA

1:28:54 So listen, there's something very specific that the way CIA people talk about Snowden. This clip is great. I know exactly what clip this is, but I wish they had it. I have a follow-up. Okay, follow up. Top secret US intelligence is actually being honored by four Americans who used to work for the US government They met Snowden in Moscow where he has been hiding since August to give him the Sam Adams award for integrity and intelligence By the way, that's nothing to do with beer Now this came as his father arrived in Moscow to see his son for the first time since this happened, saying that he is now trying to look for a job.

1:29:35 Our friend tonight, former covert CIA operative Valerie Plame. You'll recall of course her cover was blown in 2003 at that time by a member of the Bush administration and she is now the author of a new book called Blowback. Now listen carefully... Good to have you with us Valerie I really appreciate it Do you think Edward Snowden-I mean i cut straight through this because people hear this they're probably cheering for him and some are just appalled Does he deserve an award for integrity and intelligence? One thing is we know for certain, is we would not even be having this conversation about the appropriate balance of security versus privacy if it were not for Snowden's revelations. And President Obama had spoken about the need to have a really robust conversation about this because it goes right to the heart of the Fourth Amendment I think ultimately history will tell exactly where Ed Snowden falls on that line Okay did you hear? You probably didn't What was it

1:30:32 She is CIA. Everybody in the universe is talking about Edward Snowden, Mr. Snowden and all of a sudden she says Ed Snowden Okay Now Pooper Is also talking about this award ceremony We know that Anderson Pooper worked for the CIA This is admitted. Listen to Pooper.

1:31:10 To others, though, Snowden is nothing short of a hero. A courageous whistleblower... So this is just his script that he's reading? ...and now he has been honored by group of former U.S. intelligence officers who gave him an award at a ceremony in Moscow The award was from the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity and Intelligence named for late CIA analyst Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern Is in Russia at the ceremony Just spent the evening with Ed Snowden I spoke with him on the phone How is Ed Snowden doing Alright, so when you're in the CIA it's Ed. It's all about Ed. That's a great catch and I borderline clip of the day...I don't know why I don't want to give it to ya. That's okay but let me just get into the... First off I do want to mention that his script was the same as Aaron's script only they had reversed order But when they are both off-script not Aaron but its Ed

1:32:02 And so we know that this is a, our thesis is CIA fighting NSA. And in the New York Times they essentially admitted our theory the CIA in 2009 when Edward Snowden was working for the CIA officially thought that he would probably try to break into the NSA's systems to expose the NSA. They didn't tell the NSA, they sent him home They didn't like do anything other than well, you know, hey man you shouldn't do that officially but maybe we can work out a deal. So it's in the New York Times our theory has been essentially proven! Yes proven so and I'm like wow this is fantastic then i'm like what is this Sam Adams award?

1:32:55 So, you know because no one asks what that is and it's just like oh this is fantastic and I'm looking at comments on the interweb people going like It's about time he should receive an award. This is great! Like what is this award? The Sam Adams... This is according to the book of knowledge given annually by the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence And well, what does that even mean?! It turns out this is a part of GAP, the Government Accountability Project. Which you can find at whistleblower.org And I'm sorry but this is bullshit This is a non-profit who have couple million dollars in the coffer there and of course I pulled the form 990 for you None of these guys by the way they're just as bad as I am They haven't filed their 2012 taxes either

1:33:52 But if you look at what they do, these... I'll give you the... What they tell the IRS. The Government Accountability Project is a 35-year old nonprofit public interest group that promotes government and corporate accountability by advancing occupational free speech defending whistleblowers and empowering citizen activists Here is what they say is their number one, their proudest moment in their Form 990 filing for the IRS. These are the guys behind the pink slime scandal this is what they do so they are a lobbying group They spend over $1 million on lobbying

1:34:36 This is not some like really, oh these are just CIA guys who are rewarding Ed Snowden for being such a great whistleblower. No that's total bullshit! This is a lobbying group they hold the gun to people's heads there at 1612 K Street NW Suite 1100 Oh gee let's what else is there besides the government accountability project? Well we have Climate Science Watch Architects USA? This is all the climate science people are at this address. Including the Washington DC florists, which I find kind of strange... US Department of Transportation watch group! These are lobbyists! Lobbyists!! So this Snowden something is hijacked

1:35:27 Well, I think the CIA probably hired the lobbyists to give them an award. Exactly! How about that? Exactly exactly And here's what the giveaway is to me with you look at their list of all the people they've given the awards too Where is Thomas Drake and Benny and Weeby That got all these NSA whistleblowers that ended up being tracked like dogs in there lives ruined and they went out Of their way to stay on top of this day never even were mentioned in this no service for you You don't get an award Those are the guys who should be getting awards instead of this woman and some of these other people I've never heard of. Exactly. Let's look at Frank, see Andrew Wilkie. Let's just take a look randomly. Craig Murray

1:36:08 Who's Craig Murray? What did he do but the thing that really annoys me is that this is how... A political activist. Yeah. Okay, he's not even in it! No. It was supposed to be for intelligence. It should be in the intelligence community where are these NSA guys listed anyway go on I'm sorry well no so the point I'm making is that here you have CIA operation to bring Snowden back into the news. They had to bring him back and so his dad went over, which is not his dad. Lon Snowden is not Ed Snowden's dad he's like a contact, this handler.

1:36:43 Maybe that's what they call it. Oh yeah, he's my dad That's the new term. He's my dad! That's right Daddy! Who's your daddy-o? I'm your daddy-o So you know he goes over there that got no traction so then like oh let's do an award show and if you look at RT They have video of it And you know the shitty audio then they mute the audio You can't hear anything...they're having dinner It's like five people having dinner and that's an award ceremony to give the guy a candle A candlestick Which is the symbol for whistleblowing apparently. Well, it's leading to the light. And so like and you can see the truth and this is like the JD power and associates award You know This is like one of these like if you want you can basically buy that You buy the research in J.D Power & Associates will give you an award for whatever category you want It's like The Who's Who book

1:36:08 Who's Craig Murray? What did he do but the thing that really annoys me is that this is how... A political activist. Yeah. Okay, he's not even in it! No. It was supposed to be for intelligence. It should be in the intelligence community where are these NSA guys listed anyway go on I'm sorry well no so the point I'm making is that here you have CIA operation to bring Snowden back into the news. They had to bring him back and so his dad went over, which is not his dad. Lon Snowden is not Ed Snowden's dad he's like a contact, this handler.

1:36:43 Maybe that's what they call it. Oh yeah, he's my dad That's the new term. He's my dad! That's right Daddy! Who's your daddy-o? I'm your daddy-o So you know he goes over there that got no traction so then like oh let's do an award show and if you look at RT They have video of it And you know the shitty audio then they mute the audio You can't hear anything...they're having dinner It's like five people having dinner and that's an award ceremony to give the guy a candle A candlestick Which is the symbol for whistleblowing apparently. Well, it's leading to the light. And so like and you can see the truth and this is like the JD power and associates award You know This is like one of these like if you want you can basically buy that You buy the research in J.D Power & Associates will give you an award for whatever category you want It's like The Who's Who book

1:37:39 My favorite. Remember that? That was a good skit. I always like this stuff going on, people still tell me oh i'm in the who's who in tech. How much did you have to pay for the book? Yeah yeah...I got the bound copy. Yeah who's who. Got the bound copy and spent 500 bucks. You know what I'll go to people's houses once in awhile very rarely get invited out, but sometimes I do. And so if show up and if I see... It doesn't happen too often because most people that I know have a lot of integrity and they don't fall for this bull crap But if I see somebody's Who's Who in America or who is who in California or who was who in tech or any of these phony books? So they paid to put their name in this book They're in there you know it when they have the book who would have this book otherwise

1:38:24 And it's just the weirdest, you know your name here scam and it's filled with people. They charge like 500 bucks I forgot what the fee is for those books but they give you the listing for free this how works. You do get to listen for free and then you have the opportunity buy the book for five hundred bucks or three hundred bucks whatever cost. Well now you can get different levels if you want the bound leather-bound copy you could get some more. Yeah there's not just a paperback version And you get the book and then you can put it on your bookshelf, and then your kids can say oh look my father and mother they're so famous. You could flip through it and have a bunch of details in there less usually... I got an idea! I just had a money-making idea. The new agenda? Who's who? Who is who in quantum physics? That's a money maker! Imagine making any more money than that would make. Hey, I'm on page 33 of who's who in quantum physics

1:39:23 Would you like to see my penis? We could do a whole series, you know this is... You'd like to be in the who's who of quantum physics hell yeah! Yeah what else can we do the who's who of financial fractal analysis. What else can we come up with? The who's and great love making. The whose-who oh no how about the great love Really John is that way that this man the who's who of great lovemaking now? I'm not gonna buy that how about the loser ever the who's who of jet test pilots? The who's who have black belt taekwondo masters yes, I am on page 29. This is an idea oh

1:40:15 You create a bogus title and then you put your friends in it, and they buy them for 50-60 bucks. It's great! So yeah this looks like one of those kinds of things. Meanwhile... Well they did the job they did get a lot of attention so that this is exactly what you want. You want to get the attention? They got the attention if that's all but it's about I mean unfortunately its on the network that can't buy an audience in both cases. No, Burnett and Pooper! Oh yeah no those guys are done. Yeah no they're totally... I mean even the rumor is that Piers Morgan is getting thrown out or moved back later and they're bringing in we-is his name Weir? Bob Weir something from ABC Nightline or something? No it's Bob Weir from The Grateful Dead that would get a bigger audience. That'd be good

1:41:07 Because apparently Rachel Maddow is even getting more ratings than Piers Morgan now. Oh, that's got to be humiliating! Well send that a-hole back. His career is over here He never had a career here Nobody likes him. He tried. He was a British snob Yeah Telling us how to run our lives and not use guns How could we be so stupid? NPR had a very good report I have to say. They did about ten- you know, I've stopped carrying a cell phone And it's working out quite well. I have to say this no, it's true I carry around I have a third generation iPod touch with iOS 6 and I keep the Wi-Fi off until I'm ready to use It and I built up a nice little database of places that I'm that I'm at that I can connect But you know There's no cell phone tower tracking or anything like that going on and also is you know Just like I don't need it be able do you can get ahold of me?

1:42:05 You know, okay. Like you! It's like sometimes you say oh the newsletter have a look at it and send me a text message and I don't get back to you for like 45 minutes right? That's because i'm out And does the newsletter get... do we proof it is okay does it work? It works right?! Doesn't have to be instantaneous connection No, and also I find that. I'm not you know if i'm in the car with mickey we're talking I'm not on the phone looking at bullcrap You know we're listening to the radio or listen to some music or singing singing songs together So it has enriched you two sing songs together as you're driving down the road We sing songs all the time Together as you're driving down the road yeah who's driving mickey usually

1:42:46 So Mickey's driving the two of you, swinging your heads back and forth singing songs as you're driving around. Yeah! Wow! Just without the radio just us singing a song? Yeah no that's what I'm figuring yeah true true story Anyway, so NPR had a big thing about you know of course. You know no one gives a crap No everyone's getting used to it because that was the whole plan is oh well Oh yeah It's now punchline but it's a punch line on twit essentially Isn't isn't that like the punch line to every joke now in technology, but the

1:43:26 The NSA has the backup, what? It's not just on Twitter it's everywhere. It's on TV shows! Yes. It's on sitcoms right it's on Law and Order I think is on half of these shows on TV yeah it's and it's become a punchline and they had something that I thought I would share because it was a good piece of information Of course it wasn't just pure NPR reporting they brought in someone else to do the research Apparently, you actually not apparently. You would be surprised at the information that's available who can get it and for what reason particularly those of you who are in the Who's Who of best lovers of the universe? So history helps answer our question is it conceivable that somebody someday might try to use your digital records against you

1:44:12 Today, a television ad helps answer that question too. How did our marriage ever come to this? The decision to get a divorce isn't easy. Lee Rosen I hear that divorce lawyers like you are crazy about the Internet and about the rest of our digital world Well it's what literally the floodgates have data have opened up to us Visit rosen dot com to learn more Lee Rosens law firm is based in Raleigh North Carolina He says you might not realize it, but North Carolina and some other states consider private lawyers to be officers of the court. So his staff can issue subpoenas a lot like prosecutors can so they can dig up evidence on people like cheating spouses Just the other day Rosen asked his assistant to fill out a new subpoena in a child custody case. So we're going to ask for all the cellular billing and usage statements right?

1:45:02 Okay. He says they send out dozens of subpoenas every month read it to me, please send any available geolocation tower or GPS data from 1-1 11 to present perfect go ahead and print that one for me and And I'll sign it in we'll go from there Rosenstaff subpoenas people's bank records and travel records and credit card statements. I sort of think of your credit card as the table of contents of your life, And he says text messages are like the whole book hardly anything proves adultery so easily

1:45:37 Everything is right there in the text messages. Everything from what time we're going to meet and where we're going to meet, how much we love one another... ...to what were going to do or did in a hotel room or somebody's apartment or backseat of car. Yeah! There you go. The Unabomber was right Don't know why this surprises anybody no it doesn't surprise me, but I think what you should do though. Mm-hmm It's just make up an invisible friend And get yeah and then get a second account You know from some hottie you put a picture up? And I actually have a fake account of that I've been working on a project with oh with a hotty Oh, yeah Are you are you a woman in the

1:46:25 Don't tell me I had sex with you in Second Life, because that'll really bum me out. I don't do Second Life... Anyway the point is that you could create a f- The way to do it is you create a fake and then you uh... And you'd create this phony affair that you're having with somebody and then when you get busted for it, then you accuse the other person of spying on you. Show all the documentation that this has never happened and all they're doing is invading your privacy and then you sue them! And take him for all their money? Take him for everything yeah. That's gotta happen. Excellent So you're working on a project where you are someone else? You have a pseudonym? It's going to take me about a year to accomplish what I'm trying to get accomplished. And now, I'm gonna write it up as a story maybe even into small book. A giblet? A giblet! Very nice indeed... I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab!

1:47:27 We do have a few people to thank for show five, five six and in the case of this spreadsheet it's 556-1 for some reason. Anonymous $183.48. Three years into it I still enjoy this show more than any other show over any medium However, I recently realized that it could disappear at any moment if the analysis of some sketchy operation is too good so to speak. Lucifer could literally get rid of Adam in a day! Yeah, I'm sending him a gift card by a poisoned oryx sausage This would ruin my day Which is why decided to control this risk by selectively awarding certain aspects of the show oh okay? This donation is then he's got it broken out. By the way you did have this anecdote about these devil worshippers Yes And I realized I was thinking about this and what is the ways Adam even in

1:48:23 And they said they don't want money, there's not really a church or anything. You know what my conclusion is? Okay Wife swappers I'm telling you that just the state of Texas is crawling with wife swappers Just they're just covering their tracks at this bullcrap. Hey, get into the pentagram No you swingers come over here on this side of my pentagram Watch you know that's a little boil down to well I I think that Satanism that there is a lot of sexy stuff going on with it. They got sexy outfits, yeah Yeah, yeah wife Swap swappers watch okay? I'll watch I'll be on the lookout and I will report back sir page snakes

1:49:15 and 6660 1666 out of Amsterdam and since he's a famous one of our famous people two sacks of sixes at 3333 3 completing his triple knighthood, and he wants to protectorate of Holland and Friesland Friesland Friesland Wow that's very that's Friesland is a very famous part of the Netherlands. It's kind of like Wales Right in fact the I think the Friesland that language the dialect they speak and Welsh is I think they might understand each other? I think it's similar even and he needs some fresh batch of karma to help his uncle recover from cancer treatment. Oh Let me give him a special Treatment here hold on a second here you go

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1:56:30 in Gitmo Nation Lowland, so we congratulate him on that. That of course will be in the credits and show notes at 556.nashownotes.com And of course you hear the swords coming out! That means it is time to bring Richard Garrett and Michael Randall, gentlemen both of you have supported the No Agenda Show. The best podcast in the universe. In the amount of $1,000 or more and therefore we are very proud to welcome you to the round table of our knights and our dames. I pronounce thee Sir Richard Garrett and Sir Michael Randall both knights of the No Agenda Round Table for you my friends! We have Cookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay Hot Pants & Booze, Wenches & Beer Rubenes, Rumen & Rose 3 Geishas And A Bucket Of Fried Chicken Or If You Want Some Mutton And Mead We had mutton and mead last night actually at Sir Scott's dinner party When was this? Last night! You had mutton and mead? We had mutton and mead yeah I find that hard to believe Yeah it was sparkling mead It took about 6 weeks to make the mead They made it themselves? Yeah. And mutton

1:57:39 We had lamb, mutton. Lamb shanks? Yeah! Guy- He was- Lamb is not mutton. Oh well what is mutton then? It's older and it smells as stinks Well no that's what we had I'm just kidding It stinks. Why does mutton stink? Why does mutton stink?! That's the fat, old sheep fat just stinks to high heaven when it is cooked. Ah! It is disgusting that actually the smell and taste of lamb that people don't like has got a little bit of that mutiny quality And by the way I want tell people out there if you do a leg of lamb and you wanna try something interesting actually smoke it put it over on Texas style smoker so you can actually cook it takes about

1:58:27 Two and a half, three hours. And all the smoke from the mesquite, whatever wood you're using, let's say mesquite hickory probably less... I haven't tried hickory. Hickory is nice yeah. Oak would be probably really do the trick it will completely eliminate that muttony lamb flavor. Lamb taste yep. It becomes very good Yeah, that's... I think you're right with the mesquite. That's kind of the... Mesquite is a milder wood and it's easily obtainable because they burn these mesquite forests down left and right in Mexico so they can make this place more barren And then they ship all the charcoal up here and we get real wood charcoal It works great! Got great flavor That's what we do here in Texas by the way

1:59:12 It's religion. The top smoking wood in Texas is either pecan or pecan shells, but they use pecan wood and pecan shells. Interesting you say pecan instead of pe-con. Yeah I say pecan. Yeah, as opposed to pecawn You have any pecawn Yes, it's right next to the vault Hey you're cutting out again what's this? This is not right. No no what it is yeah Skype is not working today. No It's not you rebooted your whole machine right ah and the router oh, no, it's not a this time It's not a packet. This was frustrating has nothing to do with the connection this time

1:59:56 God knows. Alright, something in between yeah but if it gets bad then we have to do something about it but anyway well let's play more clips well what you got for me big I got a new drug clip oh nice they've changed this is the eloquence or whatever its called and now as if you take this drug your gonna bleed to death Wow, look at you. I've always tried to give it my best shot These days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to AFib A type of irregular heartbeat not caused by heart valve problem At first I took warfarin but...I wondered could I up my game? My doctor told me about Eliquis and three important reasons to take Eliquis instead One, Eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than Warfarin

2:00:48 Two, Eliquis had less major bleeding than Warfarin. And three unlike Warfarin there's no routine blood testing Don't stop taking Eliquis unless your doctor tells you to as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding don't take Eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding While taking Eloquist, you may bruise more easily. And it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. Seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding like unusual bruises Eloquus may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. Tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures I've got three important reasons to up my game with Eloquus Ask your doctor today if Eloquus is right for you What kind of bleeding are they referring to? You just bleed to death The thing that got me, this whole thesis on this commercial was

2:01:39 my game yeah yeah how's this upping your game you're just taking a different drug I'm gonna up my game didn't you already play this up my game thing? Yeah some other issue, this upping my game is a big theme. Yeah no I heard it somewhere else this up my game thing...I think so maybe someone sent me this clip and i just forgot to play it! Yeah that's what happened one of our producers now remember where this is coming from yeah I've heard this But it's on TV a lot too. Yeah, well I don't know...I don't watch tv. We're gonna keep the troops in Afghanistan? We are? Well i mean that's the hint this is beginning to show up as a hint and this little report on NPR or not NPR but uh NewsHour troops are going to stay in Afghanistan just a little subtle thing just to bring it into

2:02:37 Secretary of State John Kerry made an unannounced trip to Afghanistan today to help revive security talks. He met with President Hamid Karzai, to discuss keeping some US troops in the country beyond 2014. Talks have stalled over how to preserve Afghan sovereignty. And there you have it! I think we need to keep the poppy production up probably that's why we gotta keep the troops there The CIA is getting screwed by the NSA. They're not getting the money they want, so thus we put into play that okay we're gonna stick around Afghanistan longer so it can keep financing our operations. Yeah makes nothing but sense I'd really love some in some real investigation into that from time to time you'll read a whole movie on it nobody cares yeah but that was a while ago now I mean yes what was that movie again

2:03:37 It wasn't uh... Was it Denzel Washington? No, no what's his name? It was one of the- it was Denzel Washington. Wasn't it? The Denzel- it was the with Gene Hackman? No that's the other movie What was it? Ah I know stupid can't remember. It's a true story though Yeah! But you know from time to time you'll read, I think the other day i saw oh well we're trying to teach the afghan farmers to make uh... to grow cucumbers instead of poppies. Cucumbers! Because there's such a huge demand. Yeah and then it will say 90% percent of the world's opium 95 % of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan

2:04:21 And there's no follow-up. It was just like, okay... Ixnay on the Anstorpe of the Ugdreys on Illitary May Eitflaes So there is a clip here. Play this clip and have it as story to tell This is electronic devices on a plane Oh God The FAA is getting even closer to letting you fly with your cell phone or iPad turned on. They've been investigating this issue for a couple of weeks now, but their social committee has officially said that Wi-Fi won't cause the plane to malfunction Your cellphone will not bring down a 747 and Alec Baldwin can still play words with friends on the tarmac But make no mistake about it rule isn't on the books yet, but the study means that someday It will finally be there Okay John You do know

2:05:12 that you played this clip on Thursday. And you went on about, well... You went on about something or other but I have another story to tell. Okay. They uh- and i just want to say, I went on about something or other thanks podcast partner! Thanks for listening to the opinion of an actual pilot on the issue thanks buddy! I now remember what it was. You said that they... Don't worry about it, no! It was something or other don't worry about it. Do you have evidence? I didn't have enough to top my head what am I supposed to do just stay silent?! What was that? That was my coffee cup. So you know what this sounds like? No. It's the sound of Skype going dead. Oh no, no don't worry we're here in that part too Anyway so you talked about how it actually was a problem

2:06:04 So now Southwest has instituted a new, instead of putting monitors in the seats like JetBlue have and all the rest of it. They've got free Wi-Fi in this cabin that streams the DISH network to your laptop or phone. And for people who ever tried to use it didn't work at all But if you switch to, uh... If you find Internet Explorer it does work. I believe it to be Silverlight and so nothing works except on Internet Explorer because nobody can make Silverlight work on that. Oh, Silverlight! Yeah It's totally Silverlight Anyway thats my story American Gangster 2007 American Gangster You must see this movie

2:06:56 if you have not. It's a great movie, yeah and this is it is the truth! It's a true story and the guy was still alive... And he was on a 60-minute show that criminal that did uh Frank Lucas? Was that who it was? That's who Denzel played Yeah that guy and they had interviewed him in there and he was just the coolest guy He said y'all yeah this going on it was just astonishing that this was going on This is a true story Let me see, is Frank Lucas dead? I don't know if he is or not. Let's take a look. He must be very very old. Born September 9th 1930 apparently still alive 83 yeah and here it says under celebrity net worth

2:07:50 Frank right now is worth 1.5 million that's all he's got left, ran successful drug operations in Harlem during the 60s and 70s and on and on it was like Denzel Washington played him yeah and it's fact this story you watch this story and you know what still going on yeah it's so easy And nowadays, especially when you can't take the... all of a sudden they said you can't take pictures of the coffins anymore. Remember that? It's funny you say that. This actually comes in... listen to this! This is what's happening almost on a daily basis and there's a whole back story to this but this is just some of the actual reporting At Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Hawaii A JPAC team returned with remains from Vietnam and World War II

2:08:40 The as of yet unknown remains received full military honors while veterans from different generations saluted. I think it's so important, it is a closure for not only the families and those that served themselves but to all those who are currently serving and have served to show we fulfill the responsibility of bringing our folks home The remains will now go to the joint POW-MIA Accounting Command Central Identification Laboratory. There, scientists will begin finding out who these heroes are." Okay so as it turns out these so called arrival ceremonies as they're called... The coffins are quote unquote empty there's no remains in the coffins and the planes that are there for this ceremony don't even fly their dragged into position on the tarmac

2:09:35 What? Yes, and yes this is a huge scandal. In fact in the military they call it the big lie. Photos behind the scenes show the flag draped boxes had not just arrived on a military plane but you know just basically pulled out of the hangar then walked around and the planes have been dragged out onto the tarmac at the arrival ceremony is what its called but it's not true so I'm thinking There's got exactly what you said there is something up with the coffins not being shown on television anymore Now turns out that most of them are empty when it's about MIA You know Vietnam or other Remains that are unidentified. I think it's time for some investigative work here No one's gonna do anything now, I'm of the opinion that the reasons they're not letting you shoot to coffins Is because they can't

2:10:35 coordinate they can't carry the coffins are too heavy if they can't court that's possible to they can't coordinate the dead soldiers with the coffin right in the number away and they're actually but the numbers and I may actually have more coffins coming into the heroin Wow they may have more heroin being exported to support the operation than the dead I think you do not know that guys we need this is what a just so right John week all if we could just get someone to count because you know and by the way another six uh young men and i think maybe four men and two women died in afghanistan that you didn't hear about on the news but why would you? You know, and you're not going to see it on the news there will be no flag grave coffins but there should be six coming back. Right then they'll probably 10. Billed to the rim now this is a just this

2:11:37 That people, everyone who listens to this show should watch that movie American Gangster. Yeah and it's You know, and Lucas is still out there roaming around. He's he's out of jail I think isn't it? Yeah he's out of jail doing documentaries saying yeah really is a good time those were the days 83 you see the same thing with you see the movie cocaine cowboys about South Florida banks about the banking all these guys are out of jail except the ones that got killed Who were really bad guys, and they're all talking and telling the great stories. Oh those were the days we were living it up world-class Champagne you know the whole thing is just hilarious kind of an insult in the show notes though You can find a statement from the Department of Defense They will no longer be calling it arrival ceremonies now that they've been busted on it Yeah I didn't know this story

2:12:34 Now what a scan is it terrible scam. It's in it's an insult It's already an insult that the media won't cover this By request I might add So that's already an insult, but then you know to have phonied up. That's lame so I have a long thing that we can either do or not Do I'm gonna keep putting it on here until we do it? It's about vapes About what? Vapes. Vapes?! Yeah, vapes! What are vapes? By the way I'm putting in the red book my prediction about you and v... vapes Am i a vape? No you're not a vape A vape is something you do What's a vape? It's vaporizers those little smokeless cigarettes that electronic cigarettes they're called vapes Oh, vapes The ones that have uh-that are being outlawed in uhhh In the UK

2:13:31 Right, you start playing this and we'll go through this whole thing because I think you'll be amused. Because essentially what they've done in the Bay Area is... ...because there's shops that are opening up everywhere... ..is they made a vape for cigarette smokers and a vape for marijuana smokers and they're trying to tell people how bad it is but the whole special that's been pieced together is actually a promotion. To smoke more tobacco product, and this is going to be a huge boom in the tobacco market It's very, very slimy. A whole new generation of smokers We're talking about e-cigarettes if you don't know what they are your teenager might The number of high school age kids who have admitted to trying e-cigarettes doubled last year it's almost 2 million NBC Various Stephanie Truong joins us now and Stephanie this is actually called vaping Yeah that's right Vaping as in vaporizing And by the way I've never heard of this term Never

2:14:24 And I'm a weed guy. Never heard anyone call it vaping, sorry It's called...I've questioned around here JC knows the term He knows, okay alright CNC knows the term Alright baby, I quit a couple years ago so maybe I'm out of it I'm not Mac Caroni Burning nicotine and marijuana and inhaling the vapers instead of smoke But like other tech gadgets these devices have gotten smaller and more advanced allowing some kids to smoke literally right in front of their parents Lighting up 2.0 There's less of a burn, it feels less dirty No actual lighter required It doesn't smell E-cigarettes also known as vaporizers or vapes have a battery powered heating element that warms the liquid turning it into vapor

2:15:12 You can choose nicotine levels or how much marijuana you want to put in. These are hand built generally Frank DeLevy loves vaping so much he opened up his own shop The vape scene is growing every day in the Bay Area Only Vapor in downtown San Bruno is the latest in the bay area to sell the vapes He says this is the secret to helping smokers kick the habit. If you're burning vegetation, you're building up tar in your lungs if your vaporizing liquid, you're not. Can I just stop the report for a second on that particular? You can stop it as much as you want because it's hilarious So do remember when we were in... so Miss Mickey and I quit smoking year and what three months ago

2:15:55 Yeah, August of last year. So you've done very well by the way and I celebrate your success. Thank you. And I congratulate you for your honesty what is that term we've been trying to use? Thank you for your courage! Your courage thank you for your courage for stopping us And it's gotten to the point where we don't even think about it anymore. It's got, I mean that and this is only in the last couple months we were like you know because in the past year or so once over the hump yeah we're way over the hump and now we're like oh my god that stinks and it's pretty unbelievable but we're not Nazis. I hate people like that. That's a plus! I'm not a Nazi. Eww you smoke dad stinks! Yeah however

2:16:37 We, you'll remember that we tried stopping before when we were still in Los Angeles and we had the e-cigarette things in LA as to help us quit smoking. Let me tell you what the result is You're smoking and you're doing the e-cigarette. It does not help you at all! That is absolutely bull crap, it's like people use the patch and then smoke it. None of that works, none of that works is just not how you quit smoking. The nicotine...that's the addictive property and you still getting it AND you sticking something in your face

2:17:21 You know, so that is a lie. It just it will not help you quit smoking if anything it helps you into the real deal." Or even vape meets where people get together to compare and talk about their vaporizers. I've seen the growth of popularity within last year Candace Garcia who works with troubled teens and young adults in Santa Clara County says there are so many colors to choose from now girls are turning vapes into accessories. If you're pulling out lipstick, you know like you want to look like you match so with this electronical cigarette or vaporizing pen if it's a hot pink and have hot pink purse it looks cool So I've seen that alot. The kid can use it anywhere And for therapist Phil Boisier therein lies the problem he says kids are getting hooked A kid could just have right here and just slip it out of their jacket do this and be done You know they could have it like this...You're never gonna see it

2:18:14 They could do it in class, in front of a teacher. They do do it in class and in front of the teacher He says teens have even confessed to playing a sort-of game We were using them on the airplane And we were told not too by the way when we're doing that Like lighten up an e-cigarette on the air What assholes we are now I think about It's terrible. I know it's total addiction man, that's what it does using vaporizers for both nicotine and marijuana in the same room as their parents without mom and dad catching on the technology continues to advance It's made a cigarette look like an iPod

2:18:50 It's made it sexy again. We all are a little bit addicted to our technology whenever you or I pull out of our pull out Our smartphone there's a little release of dopamine when people use drugs and alcohol There's a large release of dopamine and you've got a double whammy and oh man, I just had a great idea for a product John for the court for the quantified selfers so we have an e a vapor an E cigarette and vape and it can eat through Bluetooth or maybe well the iPhone not NFC so Bluetooth It's talking to an app. And then when you when you take a hit it registers your dopamine level God, yeah That's actually something that someone would make ya make money you can tweet it

2:19:37 Tweeting, exactly. Like four square. Yeah yeah I just took a hit- I just vaped! I just vaped and it'll give your location your heart rate because you got it you combine it with your fit bit and that'll be yes so we can do like I just vaped my heart my heart rate went up 13% yay with your location at the library This is a this is a I'm telling you money-making product right there perhaps luring in first time smokers. A recent CDC study found about 160,000 middle to high school students who reported using vaporizers had never smoked actual cigarettes San Francisco General Hospital doctor Neil Bennewitz says the impact goes beyond individual

2:20:22 individuals. E-cigs could make smoking much more popular. People don't see as many people smoking anymore all of a sudden everyone's carrying e-cigarettes so smoking behavior becomes renormalized Dr. Benowitz who is also a nicotine expert with UCSF Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education says the newest devices are far less toxic compared to the first e-cig that came out 10 years ago Most likely, e-cigarette users are right. That e-cigarette use if they stop smoking would be much less harmful Still he warns a lack of regulation has left many questions hanging in the air Some of the cartridges are really big and contain a lot of nicotine Oh yeah I've seen some of these things at Halcyon here on Saturday's which is when we all hang out and have coffee after the market It seems like it looks like this guy is carrying a bong

2:21:15 Like, it's huge. Have you seen these? Are you even here John? Are you just comp- Hello?! Hello! I lost John He's vaped himself off of Skype Welcome back So the big is a bong? Would have big lantern battery in it. I mean well, it's huge It's like a huge glass thing and then he inhales and there's all the smoke that's turning inside You know the it's like you know, it's like a multiple paper not smoky a vapor Yes, but it's like a multiple chamber deal

2:21:57 It's pretty wild. Let's listen to the rest of this. In theory, if someone were suicidal or a child got hold of them they could get potentially lethal dose of nicotine For Delevy the last eight months of vaping is all the proof he needs I've lost that smokers cough and i feel more clear Now the vapes or e-cigarettes have not only gotten smaller but cheaper. You can actually pick one up that could last for a couple years for as little as 20 to 30 bucks now and legally you can actually smoke these anywhere including at work and in restaurants now there was a Senate bill in California designed to ban e-cigarettes the same places traditional cigarettes are outlawed and to regulate the advertising of them, but that has been put on hold yeah I think what's going on here? I think your spot on John this is just

2:22:44 a promotion to move people off of uh... tobacco that's all going to third world so going to africa you know what will get all those people hooked on that uh... here is the e u doing something very similar um... and of course when it yet we know that you can't get ten packs of smokes anymore are you keen at this big warning labels but you know they're working on this year on this easy thing now what is the best way to stop young people starting to smoke well the european parliament will vote on a wide-ranging package of new rules today aimed at trying to make the habit a little less attractive. The proposal includes a ban on menthol cigarettes along with other flavoured tobacco, packs of 10 cigarettes would be taken off the shelves slim cigarettes would also be forbidden they tend to be bought apparently by women and health warnings could cover as much as three quarters of a cigarette packet

2:23:35 But one of the most controversial proposals is to restrict access to e-cigarettes. A yes vote would see them reclassified as medicines right across the EU, manufacturers would then need to get their products licensed by drug agencies which could be both costly and time consuming. It's a bonanza! Oh yeah money money money... It's a bonanza I tell you it's gonna be great Yeah, well I think there's something to our app there with the Bluetooth. I'm liking this app! But it has to interact with the Fitbit and what else is there? What other crazy crap that people wear to track stuff? I think that's the least of our problems. The main thing is you've got to get the e-cigarette Bluetooth enabled or Wi-Fi enabled

2:24:24 in such a way that it's not clumsy. Yeah but I don't think that's the problem, you need to... well there are couple things one on the app it'll show you your nicotine reservoir so you know it have like a fuel meter so you can see how full your smoke is if time for new charge Yeah, you can see that on your phone. Yeah of course! You pull out your phone and you have a little gauge Yes And the battery life It'll automatically order new charges for you But it's kind of cool if you take a hit Your heart rate goes then it tweets out I just vaped This is good I'm telling ya this is a good idea

2:25:18 We need some developers. We have developers. Yeah, we got the promotion side of it covered. Yeah now the Curry Divorce is yeah now we've got that covered we just need to the actual app done in Gitmo Nation East there the UK for the first time since World War Two The Red Cross has launched first aid emergency food aid for all of the UK as people are starving there apparently Austerity measures and the economic downturn in the UK have prompted the British branch of The Red Cross to begin formulating an emergency food aid plan for Britain. The first time the charity has done this in the UK since World War II." Huh! Yeah, oh yeah this is gonna happen across Europe too by the way it's gonna happen in Portugal It's gonna happen Spain...it's good can happen in the Netherlands

2:26:17 And the funny thing is it's all just about banks and bankers and bullcrap. And now people are actually starving! Yeah, that's one way of getting their attention Getting their attention or just getting rid of them? I mean...I think this is culling perhaps It could be, thats what the Russians did to the Ukrainians Didn't the Russian do it to their entire Russian population in general? No they had some targeted place where they could actually starve people out The rest of them they killed. They didn't have any qualms about that. Stalin? He didn't have to starve anybody, gun him down! Right but you can't do that anymore I don't think those practices work these days But i was a little surprised by uh... A little taken aback I would say that is actually happening because when the collapse takes place I guess a lot of us will still just be watching reality television like nothing's happening

2:27:12 Isn't that what's going on now? Yeah, but the collapse isn't completely here. No it just a bunch of dry runs to test the publics uh how much they'll put up with apparently put up quite a bit I like the blackout thing yeah black out coming near you Okay, what else do we have here? I got a little thing just a little heads up on the head scarves in Turkey They let those back on board and then turkey is gonna be keep an eye on turkey It's gonna all hells gonna break loose there they've had a couple of dry runs on that and the big story is yet to come with it Oh

2:27:57 One day after the lifting of a nearly 90 year old ban on women wearing the Islamic headscarf in Turkey's state institutions and the issue remains as divisive as ever being religious or secular dictates response. For Turkey's Prime Minister it is a positive move and one of his reforms meant to improve democracy A painful ban that has caused a lot of suffering for parents of young people is lifted, a dark era has come to end The decades-old ban has kept many women from joining the public workforce. Supporters of the scarf see the change as the restoration of freedom of religious expression. This teacher says, according to the former regulation if you wore a headscarf you could receive a warning and reprimand within a certain period nothing else was said it was done without even asking us to explain ourselves

2:28:51 But Erdogan's critics see his Islamist-rooted AK party as seeking to erode the secular foundations of the republic. Ilkner, who lives in Istanbul says this is not good I can't even imagine a civic officer wearing a headscarf This was not the right decision to take and i don't approve of it Isn't amazing just what we've become in the world The things that were arguing about? I find that quite interesting Well, in this case it's Turkey's history with its own state religion essentially has been sketchy at best and they're going to turn the place into another.

2:29:37 I mean the idea of an Islamist democracy is self-abnegating. You can't be both, everything goes by the book Sharia law and all the rest and have a free society. They're freaked out about this possibility because it's just one more step with the way it works with this guy Erdogan. It goes well first we're going to free everybody so they can wear the headscarf part one, part two everyone has to wear the headscarf which is the way these things work. I think we should start wearing one on the show you yes i shall go with the dress that you're wearing as you do this show yeah it'll go along with that over modulation that we got since so he reconnected the skype it'll go nicely i think we should quit while we're ahead

2:30:24 Yeah, it's a shame that the... I don't know what it is. We gotta figure out what's going on but uh Did you get an upgrade? Was there an upgrade of Skype that you got on Windows maybe? No this machine has just dedicated to this and never runs the rest of the week But no, but you do not know if you got an upgrade or not Is Skype now included in the Windows update? I would hope not It's possible! No because they still ask you. I did an update about a month ago And But then we were screwed up by the packet losses now. We got that fixed Yeah, I think just a bad day yeah well It's it's a bad day. I think it's on my end actually I have a feeling that it may be the the Mac version of Skype for some reason well used up as Possible no yeah, well it seems to be in there somewhere, but it's okay

2:31:19 I think the show was acceptable to the majority of No Agenda listeners. Well, certainly the people who were listening to this on the podcast version where we had... Yeah because we cut out all the hours of crap. We're always rousing about this. Oh it's terrible! Anyway as an end-of-show little ditty here producer Jim Savastak created a little A little montage, he's done this before. This is the shut you down montage which I think we should probably play which would be fun just to wind things up. Sounds good Yeah you know it just he just grabbed some douchebags and mix it in with some music and that's always fun to listen to that We will be back on your bat channel on Thursday And of course there will be even closer to the Bogative Showdown

2:32:09 So we'll see who gives in first. It'll be fun to watch it. What's the date of that? I think that will be Friday is maybe the date and Thursday, we have the show. I think it will probably resolve just before the show because they really can't do it at the very... No! They always do it right after we're done with the show. That's... Yeah they always do stuff like that. Noah Jenner Producer Update coming up on the stream right after the program if you are listening live and As always, I am packed with collagen-inspired volume plumping for your pleasure. And i'm here in Austin Texas it is the capital of the drone star state in the morning! I'm Adam Curry. No plumping here...I'm in northern Silicon Valley John C Dvorak speaking We'll be back on Thursday right here on NO AGENDA

2:33:16 Mr. President, billionaires! Billionaires! Mr. Speaker, unemployment rate in my home state of Ohio is now over 11%. I mean that it's just obscene. That it's just obscene They have a long list of issues. Talking about $700 million welfare program for wild horses and burros. Legislation passed in the last 80 years that protect the middle class and working families... Oh yeah, 700 million dollars today to save wild horses and burros And yesterday we weren't even allowed to offer an amendment

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