2:00:31 Crocodile clips and broken pieces hanging off of it I'll be able to actually use this and I'll take it with me to we're gonna be in Los Angeles the week after next week and then we're going to the to revision to Which will have the digital audio converter in it and everything. So essentially you'll be able to use this you know to podcast and we've been talking to manufacturers and I've been pretty hell-bent on having this made in the USA and I have also checked because you know you'd be amazed what you learn with this kind of stuff. It's like, you know, if you have if the board has components on both sides, you know It's an extra 20 cents because it's got to go through the machine again and you pay like, you know four cents per pin of a whole through whole component
2:01:19 And if you have 200 capacitors of 10 microfarads, you have to buy a roll of a tape of 4,000. I mean, stuff like this, right? Like what? Because I've never met... Hold on. These fabricators don't have their own rolls of capacitors that you have to buy? don't they have just a bunch of them lined up because I've seen these machines they got these rolls of capacitors on this on this strip and there you know some do some do some do some do I mean it the point a point I'm going to make is that I also talked to some Chinese companies and by the time you
2:02:01 are done with shipping and import and I'm just calculating an X percent that it's just gonna suck just because it's Chinese crap. And you know, you hear all the time they substituted something without telling you or whatever. And I call one company, the CEO was on the phone first call. He had no idea who I was. He was like, oh, you know, small companies like up in Seattle. You know, they're like 25 people. And I'm like, it's going to be cheaper at the moment to do it in America. And I'll be able to put a big Made in the USA stamp on it.
2:02:42 and be contributing to the American economy. We are becoming cheaper than China. I think that's probably been true for a while. I didn't know this. This is a revelation. There's something else, there's other reasons people use the Chinese, but especially if you have to really ramp, they're really good at that. But there's all these new rules about import anyway. You should listen to Eric's horror stories about bringing some from China. Yeah, I've heard some of them. It's just like a nightmare dealing with our own government when it comes to importing. I mean, unless you're a big company and you essentially have your own division devoted to importing and they know what they're doing to an extreme, it's really hard for a small... the small manufacturer in this country has been screwed over by big corporations.
2:03:39 Yeah, but now I'm thinking that now with our cheap gas, and we should be having cheaper energy, I'm not seeing it, but we should have cheaper energy at the moment. Yeah, I'm not seeing it either. I think we're competitive again, I really do, it's nice to see. Well, let's get this product done. Hey, we should do a transistor radio next It's funny you know I've done lots of things I've done all kinds of companies, but it's been service or software But I've never done a hardware, and it's funny how people think about you have no idea what goes into this and I love the chatroom like just use a 3d printer and
2:04:25 Yeah, yeah. Now that'll be real. Are these guys out to lunch? That'll be real cost effective. The myth of the 3D printer. You couldn't do it anyway. No, no. Well, you can make the board maybe. That's about it. You can make the the pretty yeah, it would cost more to make the board than making ten of them complete pleated in a normal manufacturing you know those are for is 3d printing which is way ahead of the curve in terms of a public awareness because it's not they're not ready for prime time by any means or just kind of a gimmick right now and they're only for one-off parts and I've met it there was a 3d printer guy at the when I did the last twit and
2:05:07 And he's got a really nice little printer and he gave one to Leo and he says, you know, I know Leo's never going to use it but some of the people around here might use it. And it's just, you know, they use it to make, but they only make doodads. You mean like that? There's a little twit logo and somebody makes... Napkin rings. Napkin rings exactly is what these things are good for it No, it's good for Legos because they you know Legos of course, you know is out of patent so you can make Legos You can make napkin rings. And by the way, this is another one of those things It just you know, whoa 3d guns with it and it's just off the radar all of these news stories all of these all of these Crises that the media whips you up into a frenzy and he who even remembers Sandy Hook
2:05:56 Right, yeah. Who even remembers Aurora? We don't remember her. Aurora is still only remembered in Colorado as they try to pass more weird legislation. Yeah, but it's really, you know, this... There's an assault, an assault on your noggin. Wow, I still have this Rebecca Stevenson on my screen. Yeah, I just took her off a second ago because I was losing concentration. Yeah, I gotta do that too. Hold on a second, let me get rid of her. Go away, Rebecca. Go away. Anyway, so that was just my little contribution there. I just thought it was interesting. Yeah, well, it's gonna be a learning process. Yeah, that's for sure. That's for sure. Well, the good thing is that people want to send checks just to be first in line. They don't even care what it is. They'll send you a check. I know, why don't you wait? It's gonna be a little while longer. Great article in The Spiegel.