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00:00 And there is close to be-heh. Officially declaring the C word to mean cracker here in the Travis Heights hot out and Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's sunny beautiful And I've decided that Martha Stewart can't cook. I'm John C Dvorak She's not too good at stock tips either

00:35 Well that brings up the point of my theme for today's show. Oh, what is that? Don't look over here! I noticed I have themes. Oh oh...I have problems you have themes and i got problems. My theme is liars. Oh well thats a good one isn't our theme every show? Yeah im thinking about it now. Isn't that just like the ongoing theme of this program? Miss Mickey is out she went back to Amsterdam for her special project she left yesterday So you didn't get your pancakes? No, I didn't get my pancakes exactly. And then yeah do everything myself. You're gonna be grumpy the whole show! Well it's low carbs no carbs and so you know and like i'm going to be great husband and yesterday we have a water restrictions in Texas pretty much permanent um something like okay it's gonna be at night me what

01:27 Does that even mean water restrictions? Oh, uh...water usage restriction. What if you're dehydrated? No no you can drink! You can drink all you can drink but it's watering your lawn that's a problem Do you have a lawn? Yeah we're on the corner so we have quite a bit of grass oh and I want you just to recycle your rainwater Yeah, well this is Texas John. What rainwater? Okay go on with the story So yes I'm the great husband because you know they're starting to turn brown it's like it's not looking good except for Welcome to Texas The grass is frying except we had these big oak trees and underneath the oak trees is fantastic It's beautiful green

02:05 And so I'm, you know it's dark out and I'm running around with the sprinklers. You know although they can actually look at your water usage bill and they will come and bust you if they think that you're using too much this is not even with the smart grid water meters. What are they going to do to ya? Oh! They fine you for doing that. Do they work you over? Yeah with ugly stick now they fine you for that Anyway, but you know we're in a family house and so just the two of us. You know like oh this took a lot of showers at this particular week So three hours of moving the sprinklers all around in the dark And I swear to God and I sit down and I string out the wire on the back porch for the new little bit of hamming Because we had a huge magnetic storm so 40 meters was cranked up

02:57 And boom, thunder lightning it rains. After three hours of doing all this crap and it rained all night! Well that's just the way it works. Did you try the rain stick? No but I'm thinking we should do a rain stick for everybody in Phoenix and Southern California How is there with you? Is it crazy hot? You'd think from reporting in Europe Armageddon is upon us They've taken this opportunity for what used to be called a heat wave And it's like, they're cooking eggs on the street. They're all gonna die! Death Valley, this is it! Armageddon Agenda 21, ohhh... This is global warming, it's over? Yeah

03:40 It's really sad how this is being portrayed. And you almost would think that the president, after announcing his climate change goals on the hottest day was wiping down his forehead... Whew! He's so hot! That they cranked up harp or something just to prove the point. You know? Just to hammer it home. In fact, the president yesterday did his little show, his little podcast the presidential podcast which I think... is that on iTunes? If it's not then I'll talk to the guys. I can have some pull and probably get the press on iTunes and he essentially repeats this entire message that he did in his 40-45 minute speech there at Georgetown University

04:29 He added a couple things that I wanted to highlight and of course he does not disappoint by giving us a hearty hi everybody Hi, everybody. A few days ago. I unveiled the new national plan to confront the growing threat of a changing climate Decades have carefully reviewed science tells us our planet is changing in ways that will have profound impacts on the world We leave our children That is a little new what he just said there decades of carefully reviewed science That's harsh. It's bullcrap! Yeah, but to say that this is so blatant and you have to admit this is the other Obama now This is number two it's like they've tag-teamed that little first guy was tired and he's invigorated He looks great. He looks tighter for some reason yeah I got a couple of shots in him

05:26 Already we know that the 12 warmest years in recorded history. Yeah, they've all come in the last 15 That's right and the last year was the warmest in American history Which doesn't mean it was the warmest in the world and but okay? This is global warming taking place only in America And while we know no single weather event has caused solely by climate change this is this is so good This is the this is the hedge he keeps putting that in there So we know... Yeah, they've had to go from weather is not climate, whether's not climate to whether and climate are interlinked and bad weather is related to the climate. Now they got this! This is the latest. They have been experimenting so much with various means which one will catch. Yeah, yeah, they're doing that with language very good science We also know that in a world it getting warmer than used to be

06:14 all weather events are affected by it. I love this, this is really good language he didn't say this either in a world that is getting warmer than it used to be what does that mean? It used to be last year, 1,000 years ago 10,000 years ago what does it even mean more extreme droughts, floods, wildfires and hurricanes. So we haven't had any hurricanes? Why did he say hurricanes and not tornadoes? Probably should have said tornadoes I think that was a mistake No no John yeah God man you and i know better than this nothing is by mistake with these people This guy's been making a lot of mistakes recently When did he give this speech after South Africa? No this before he left Yeah this was pre-taped

07:00 Those who already feel the effects of a changing climate don't have time to deny it. What? We don't have time to deny it! Wow, now that's a gem! He said this last time... I remember him saying we don't have time to deny it. By the way, the Flat Earth Society that he referenced has documentation that they're all in on global warming. Yeah, of course. It's kind of ironic. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Uh-huh. Yeah, so yeah now that we don't have time because what are they doing those apparently it's firefighters who deny global warming They're busy dealing with it the firefighters who brave longer wildfire seasons see this is a misread of the prompter Did you hear what happened here?

07:45 how he's just reading and he's not even thinking anymore about what he says it doesn't think now so you say those who the people don't even have time to do denied global warming because they're too busy dealing with it and then he goes in any inflection is the firefighters like the firefighters are denying it that's a good listen to it again but I was very poorly done for the work firefighters home back up a little bit more no it's it's if you were it's just know it's a team He's not paying attention to the script, he is just reading it. The firefighters who brave longer wildfire seasons. The farmers who see crops wilted one year and washed away the next. These are the deniers apparently, dumb. It was poorly done. Yeah. And families worried about water that's drying up. The costs of these events can be measured in lost lives and livelihoods, lost homes and businesses, and hundreds of billions of dollars in emergency services and disaster relief

08:59 And Americans across the country are already paying the price of inaction and higher food costs, insurance premiums and the tab for rebuilding. Now that's all I have. I didn't record all four minutes or five minutes but that last bit he just said where you're already paying the tab That is directly from the university that does climate change communication That is their line That is exactly their line. Remember when we read the documents and it's like here's what the new mission is to say you're already paying for so you might as well pony up and I guess that will lead to... Pay more? Yeah, that'll lead to... You're already paying for pay more! You're already being taxed what difference does making a tax make? What difference does it make if your are already taxed?

09:49 I love the logic. With this, we kind of got started on this and didn't even intend to do it...I got a note from our insider. We have an industry insider who really confirmed for us that all of these wind farms and solar panel farms are really concealing gas-fired electrical plants And he had some, he's a lawyer. He has some contracts and says you know oh my god all these contracts that I'm doing for these solar and wind farms they all have gas pipelines leading up to them and if you take that back even a little bit more this is a huge setup that we've seen and the setup was for natural gas

10:32 And a lot of these plants, mainly built by General Electric I might add. Big buddies there the Obama administration and of course NBC and all the other television channels who have been propagating this they got huge subsidies from the government for building solar and wind farms so the scam is now obvious We're just building, you know we're getting ready for natural gas. It'll be a part of the climate change plan. We're going to push everyone towards natural gas get in now on the ground floor and I'll ask you in a minute I'll ask you to give us some ideas of what we can invest in And by the way, we should mention that they are literally bulldozing The coal plants yeah pushing them down They don't want to have them there since to restart him They're gonna just tear it right down got another email from our insider

11:28 And this brought up something that we talked about three years ago, which I it was really cool how these things come around and what we already identified back in the day. So the insider will just call the gas scam insider I saw another energy-related contract yesterday, Adam. At first assumed it was another solar contract but instead it was for a fuel cell technology that turns natural gas into electricity using a quote electromechanical reaction rather than combustion having never heard of this before I looked up the company do you remember what company this is John?

12:05 I know the technology but don't remember the company. Bloom Energy, oh yeah Bloom right? I do remember. And Bloom Energy was the company that had a huge hype on 60 Minutes this was in fact I went back and pulled the clip because it was...I remember we We actually talked about watching this at the when you know, oh everyone's gonna watch this tonight. It's gonna be unveiled It's the big massive new it's the fuel cell it's the secret is being unveiled and this has been funded by Kleiner Perkins Right. John Doerr and so I wanted to just replay the opening... Oh you found the old clip? Oh yeah, that 60 minutes hype! That was an unbelievable hype And then i'll read the rest of our insiders communique to us In the world of energy The Holy Grail is a power source that's inexpensive Now remember this is three years ago almost Three years ago when this was being set up And clean with no emissions Well over 100 startups in Silicon Valley are working on it

13:08 One of them is Bloom Energy. This was also before all of the cylindras and this is when all the money was going into all this stuff that started to fail a couple years later. Their invention? A little power plant in a box they want to put literally, in your backyard. You'll generate your own electricity with the box and it will be wireless The idea is to one day replace the big power plants and transmission line grid, the way the laptop moved in on a desktop and cell phones supplanted landlines.

13:43 It has a lot of smart people believing and buzzing, even though the company has been unusually secretive until this past February when K.R. Schroeder invited us to be the first news organization to take a look at the innards of the Bloom Box that he'd been toiling on for nearly a decade Now you remember this right? It was like oh yeah, and they had the little thing in his hand. No well what here I got that I pulled that clip too. I had to I had to it's also it makes an extra funny because he's Indian and Yeah, it just has a crap in it or we've got the database here look at my hands very very close one What could this power this good power a u.s.? Home average United House entire house 24 7365 something that small

14:28 The way we make it is in two blocks. This is a European home, the two put together as a US home because we use twice as much energy and this will power four Asian homes So four homes in India your absolutely country four to six homes in our country We do need not need energy! like you people. Sounds awfully dazzling it is real, it works yeah only where is that he says he knows it works because the originally invented a similar device for NASA He really is a rocket scientist I remember when we looked into this bull crap right and so where's his cube on Mars with the rover? This invention working on Mars would have allowed the NASA administrator to pick up a phone and say Mr President

15:17 We know how to produce oxygen on Mars. Yeah, that worked out huh? This guy's an a-hole! This was going to produce oxygen so people could actually live on Mars Absolutely. Absolutely! Absolutely! When NASA... This is where you know the guys I mean you have to calculate the cubic feet of the atmosphere or what would could be in atmosphere and Mars it's just like ridiculous It's gonna produce it from what? By the way, I want people to know... From a vacuum?! We are not racist. We just love making fun of silly accents and funny walks. Scrap that Mars mission! In this case... Racist. We're not racists. This guy is a fake Yeah he's a phony but we're attacking the entire peoples of India

16:03 Well, if they donate more I don't think it would be such an issue. He had an idea he reversed his Mars machine so instead of... This is..I love this! How could? This is 60 minutes! He reversed his Mars machine and came up with the answer for all future energy making oxygen he pumped oxygen in oh he invented a new kind of fuel cell okay so yeah well 20 seconds left Yeah we I think we all get that point So the idea was it was not a fuel cell It is a well-known technology of creating energy from natural gas. And you can do it, but it's one of these things that has to run for more than an hour and I can't just like crap out and he was making it from sand on beaches and all this bullcrap so let's go back to our insider's email. He said he had not heard of this company actually sent him this link. He said oh man its too funny. Went back to the contract

17:00 And notice that it requires confidentiality about the actual performance of the device. So here's this fabulous fuel cell that is going to save the world, but they want to keep the performance of this natural gas slurper confidential Well, you know what that means of course. It sucks! It totally does! It sucks! Yeah. Here's the... Let's look at it from a marketing perspective if this thing kicked total butt and it had unbelievable performance which it doesn't you wouldn't want to keep that a secret because that's your marketing tool Yep

17:41 But you do want to keep it a secret if it's a piece of crap because keeping it a secret is your marketing tool. Here's where it all ties together, so the president comes out and says natural gas is the transitional fuel of the future as we get to fuel that farmers will have to grow which I guess will be sugar cane or whatever its going to be And all of a sudden these contracts start popping up for this Bloom Energy bullcrap. It's cash in time, that's what coming now! There is $7 billion dollars... That's only what he talked about and announced and all these guys are jumping on it with these confidentiality contracts so it's going to be incredibly inefficient

18:25 expensive and it's going to be a bonanza. And finally Kleiner Perkins will get their money back because I think they invested couple hundred, but they got to get it out. They gotta get it back. It's funny cause the last piece of article written about Bloom Energy in terms of her press releases was on June 4th just recently 2013 Verizon to buy Bloom Energy fuel cells blah blah blah... Why would this? This is like a minor story season for me but who else would run it but Giga Ohm which is an Indian mafia company Yes, of course. Hey, GigaOM! It's time to turn on the marketing heat So why are these companies buying the Bloom Energy machine? Because they get a 35% tax credit That's why Google got them

19:15 Okay, so it's a government scam that is going to roll out this boom energy as an IPO. Or somebody is going to buy them but I think they'll be in the right mind to buy them right? It has to be an IPO because there are 400 million invested in this thing! So they will do an IPO for 1 billion and more than a billion. More than a billion. So ladies and gentlemen even though I don't give stock tips Sounds like a future short to just live with. It's going to be dynamite! Buy the stock when it comes out and just wait for it to go up... Hiccup. And then... As soon as it hiccups, fail. Then short the hell out of it

19:57 Wait a minute, yeah exactly. So we're gonna say okay I think you're right I think you're dead on i think this is a lead into an IPO that'll make Kleiner get Kleiner out of the woods make the government look good and make Obama look good And he will be out of office by the time this thing finally craters The cool thing well maybe not even Well you never know Some of these things can just fail immediately The cool thing about all of us is that the taxpayer gets screwed on both ends of the stick And we get screwed when these guys build these phony baloney fronts for basically gas-fired turbines with a wind farm in front as a facade. Look at the wind farm! Don't look, don't look at the turbine, don't look at the turbine, and they're getting huge tax breaks there... We get screwed

20:46 And then when the consumer, when the customer of the big you know who we're all in of course Google has it Verizon has it. When they buy it there's another tax break Right which again comes out of our pocket Yeah! We got screwed twice and then Verizon still sends you a bill Yeah they should be sending us money You want to hear John Doerr at that time? Oh yeah might as well Might as well Make me cringe In October 2001 he managed to get a meeting with John Doar from the big Silicon Valley venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins. How much do you think I need to come up with the next big thing? Oh, that's my job to find entrepreneurs. That's not my job! No your job is to make money for your limited partners which are not doing great job of by mine. They haven't really failed it has been

21:41 continuum of failures ever since they went green. Oh yeah! It was a huge blunder. Yeah, well this is... Green, green because he's you know his buddies with the Doors' buddies with Al Gore and Gore is over there selling his snake oil. All the time, all the time. His carbon exchange yes that okay so listen it gets better remember this is 2010 And, oh that's my job. We're gonna change the world! That's my job we gotta change the world! We are the world! And then help them. Help them by taking away all their stock and giving them nothing John Doar has certainly changed our world he's the one who discovered and funded Netscape Bullcrap! Who discovered Netscape?

22:27 What does that mean? This is 60 Minutes, mind you. On the Tiffany network... They're clueless about all this stuff. He didn't discover Netscape. Amazon. He didn't discover Amazon and Google! There are latecomers to Google. Yeah they had to buy a billion dollars worth of stock to get into Google. They weren't- they didn't discover nothing When he listened to KR, the idea seemed just as transformative Efficient, inexpensive clean energy out of a box. But Google 25 million I don't know where that came from and you can see his expressions like oh my god what did she come up with that number we did a backroom overnight deal for a billion before the IPO What are you talking about $25 million? Okay i'm just going to shut up about it will make me look good This man said how much money

23:17 At the time he said over a hundred million dollars. Didn't smoke start coming out of your ears? No, that was okay. So nothing he said scared you? Oh I wasn't at all sure it could be done But there was a selling point. Clean energy was an emerging market worth gazillions." Gazillions! I just heard... Gazillion? I didn't know there were gazillions, write that down. This is 60 minutes John CBS CBS The Tiffany Network apparently now has invented the monetary unit of a gazillion The fawning of this they are so complicit

24:01 in this bull crap. I like to say that the new energy technologies could be the largest economic opportunity of the 21st century Yeah, and that's what you told all your investors and gee how'd that work out? Was this your very first clean... Clean energy investment? Yeah This was the very first Yes, and then... Ah! I forgot THAT part It would be funnier if... You know it would better... But you start off on the wrong foot And it just gets worse Wouldn't it be funnier if John Doar was Indian John Doar, you know I think the funny thing is John Doar has dealt... The guy they used to have there was who finally got... There was a big battle royale between him and Door. The Indian guy Who's the Indian guy? Oh! You mean that wasn't Ram Sharam was it no No this is the real big shot the big Indian guy the guy who's who's the biggest blowhard of them all

24:56 I don't know who this is. And he was at Kleiner? He was one of the main guys at Kleiner and he was about to take over the place, and him and Dora got into this huge battle royale of egos...and he lost! And went ahead to go off and he was one of the founders of Sun. Uh, he got kicked out, booted out Vishni, Vishner... Vishnu, Vishnoy, that guy? Vishnoy is the Jewish guy. Vinod Khosla. They call him Vinod. And he got into him and Vinod is really up there in terms of like

25:31 he's got the right degrees, he has the right attitude. He is very patronizing. He looks like a... or like he should be on Star Trek almost. Yeah, he looks like an actor and him and Dore were always battling it out. And I... Dore won! Of course the company isn't big but Vinod was probably the highest end of these kinds Blowhards he was about the cabal talking. He wouldn't let you talk about anything, but himself That's just amazing guy he could be on this show He hasn't exactly he hasn't done anything since leaving Kleiner Perkins that I can tell when we see career career career 2006 his wife co-founded the KCK 12 foundation aims to develop open source textbooks of the philanthropist how boring

26:20 Open source proponent What is that? They're also donors to the Wikimedia Foundation. Oh, okay So if you know if you see something nasty about you on your wiki it's him He's doing it he's actually amazing his ego so big that he wouldn't even consider a stooping to you know anything and he was the guy with this with a big giant. He's the type of guy in India who has got the big, giant house, a bunch of servants and they just think they're fantastic people. Really? A whole bunch of servants! Okay in 2010 so his so he has Coastal Adventures Tony Blair is on board now here you take Al Hoare I'll take Tony Blair that's how

27:12 And he also raised $250 million for Coastless Seed, which will invest in higher risk opportunities. Damn! I thought it would be seeds that'd be funny. Seeds? He was selling coastless seeds. So there's the scam for you. Just want to make sure you understood it and and note that we spotted this three Three years ago, yeah When I first showed up well You can sniff it out It was just didn't make any this things don't in science particularly things may have there's this thing about making sense and also breakthrough technologies in batteries and fuel cells, there is none. I mean it's all fine-tuning what was invented in the 1800s. Yeah thank you! It has been around since the 1800s... Would you please explain that this so called fuel cell technology has indeed been around since well late 1800s?

28:07 throughout the 1800s but late 1800's and for example, the ones that technology has used in hydrogen cars. Oh and by the way whatever happened to hydrogen cars? And the hydrogen economy where did that go? Well... So anyway so the fuel cells going to be in these hydrogen cars and I've driven most of the hydrogen cars when they were with the prototypes that were around. And they're horrible, it's not like they're kind of cool have a car running on hydrogen but they make it... They all work on the same technology so weird fuel cell. And they run rough right? No, no they run fine. It's just that they scream and apparently you can't do anything about this They have a high-pitched squeal that I think would be banned if there was a city full of these cars There'd be people with blood coming out of their ears

28:57 Okay. And they still can't get enough hydrogen in one of these tanks to go, because you want to go 300 or 400 miles on a charge or fuel cell tank of gas or something like that and they had to finally get these things close to 300 miles. They had to use a tank technology that resulted in the hydrogen gas at 10,000 pounds per square inch in the tank. Nice! Which means that a rupture would blow the car to smithereens and everybody nearby. That would be so exciting wouldn't it? The i-35 And I was talking about the... It has an actual word What's the word? The wood burning cars gassogene I think is what they used to call it Yeah gasogene In World War II

29:53 There were tons of cars and if you just google wood burning car. Yeah, they're all over YouTube Oh my god! And some of them are really beautiful and there's just tons of cars that have these big burners on the back with burning wood driving around This has to make a comeback Well it's getting there So a lot of people sent me tons of links to 10 kilowatt wood-burning generators, which I really appreciate that there's people making these but you know maybe next time i have a spare $35,000 laying around all get one of those. I really would like just the home brew deal in the pickup truck and there's tons of guys who've done it! You're in the right part of the country those Texas like to weld they like to weld and we... what are you eating? Just eating a lozenge. Oh, is your throat hurt

30:50 You need a lozenge for your throat. I have a mild cough. Anyway, go on... Anyway i would like to wrap this up by telling the peoples of Europe that we are not burning up alive yeah it's warm and um and i don't know what this bullcrap is that they're selling people in phoenix they have grounded flights in Phoenix saying that because of the heat the aircraft cannot take off properly I happen to know a few things about aircraft. Yes, what is the problem with you? I've heard of this before that they it's sometimes difficult to take off and if it's too hot yes well do the air density definitely changes and you have less lift so this can be obfuscated in number ways longer runway is a good one but I think Phoenix has plenty long for what they're doing

31:47 I'm pretty sure that you can solve a lot of this with your weight and balance So there might be some Some flights that might be a challenge But you really the difference between 100 degrees and 110 degrees is not the difference between taking off or not taking off. I think something else is going on here And this is what we learned when we were on our last Hot Pockets tour, and we went up to Wichita and we stayed with our buddy there, the sand... what is it? Doonbuggygolfcarts.com Oh yeah, doonbuggy guy And he told me that... Whatever happened to him No he's still selling doon buggies He sold a couple of this Remember he sold some to like some A-Rabs Yeah vaguely

32:30 And he told me that the big problem with the planes that they're building now, the composite... The composite planes. The plastic planes is they start to melt around 130 degrees on the tarmac I'm thinking something else is going on! I'm thinking that the planes it can take off are the ones with sheet metal and rivets and the one's that have a problem They have to move them into the hangar because they become unsafe and its 140 degrees in Phoenix Is It Not? I don't know, but yeah. I know that ground temperature gets way up there Yeah It's horrible the place and you think they put coverings over their parking lots and things No You go to some strip mall in Phoenix you park your car outside five minutes later? You can't get back in the car you have to open either leave the windows opening you have two sticks kind of reaching without burning yourself Start the engine and turn on the air conditioner while you stand outside Until the car cools off enough because you can't even touch the steering wheel no And you'll get third-degree burns if you sit down

33:32 It's horrible. Yeah, well yeah and there you go that's what it is Hey let me say in the morning to you John C DeVore I'm saying good morning to you Adam Curry In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the water subs in the air and all the dames and knights out there yes indeedy how y'all doing? And to our...in the morning to our human resources in the chatroom noagendastream.com Noagendachat.net already bickering and fighting amongst each other great! I love it You get new people in the chatroom like, that a-hole doesn't know what he's talking about. And then people go Adam is a rated helicopter pilot! He knows what he's talking of! It's funny. Yeah it's always that way I've always noticed that when you come into or somebody

34:23 runs into you in a media market so you're presenting your information and a lot of people have the backstory what you know what you don't know, what your opinions are where your prejudices lie, your bigotries and all the rest. And they it's all factored in and you get some newbie who comes in and they're usually blowhards And they think, they start trying to lord it over a group of people that are insiders essentially and then they usually get shouted down and shut up slave for awhile. Exactly! Then they finally get a clue and then their allowed to discuss things So I'm reading...I'm looking at

34:58 I got a bottle of, and this is just an example how this kind of works in more serious venues. So I'm checking out...I'm going to auction off some of my wine collection. Whoa whoa whoa! Hold stop hold the front door What? You're going to auction off some of your wine collection. Now you can't just pass by that comment, just lightly! Yeah... Woah! Hello I'd like to be in- how can i get in on this?! You don't own any of it No but how could- I want to help you How could we get in or can we do- Oh no no you should give it to an auction house Or one of these places You have a collection thats That you can give to an auction house Is the kind of collection you have Like Christie's

35:42 Yeah, I got Christie's stuff. So it's hard times huh? Well yeah that is exactly right and that is why you have to sell the wine. That's heartbreaking! You have to turn over your wine anyway because some of these just never going to drink it It's heartbreaking to hear this. This is your collection. You are an archivist. You can't archive wine forever So anyway, so I'm noticing...I have a bottle which I actually received under interesting circumstances of Hennessey's Richard. And I didn't realize, I always knew it was on par with the...I didn't realize what it's worth because the Chinese have been screwing up the cognac market. Yes So uh..I'm reading about this but what this thing is worth and I am reading about the Hennessy operation and then the master taster? And how they do tastings because they can't... The thing about cognac is that has to taste the same

36:37 the Hennessy XO from 1950 has to taste the same as the Hennessy XO from 2020. It's got all tastes the same that then you have these master tasters who can blend them so we have this consistent product, so when you buy a bottle of it You know you're gonna get the same thing always going to disclose yeah That's what you're paying for isn't is not exactly and They so but they are always bringing people in and there's like main taster, the guy who's I think insured for five million dollars and then there are two or three of these other guys. He has the most expensive tongue in the business It's a nose mostly And so as they bring these guys in that...I just was reading about this and the guy says when you're one of the newbies you're brought in for the first time You're brought into The Taste & Click and you cannot speak for 10 years Really? That that's your non-disclosure? No!

37:32 Really? Yeah, for 10 years. Wow! You shut up and sit down and watch the experts do their thing... Wow! ...and then you can save something in ten years that's the way the chat room should be A long way to go but I like it Ten year- okay we'll write this down We have a ten year moratorium I would like to point out one other thing This is a... Ladies and gentlemen, you have just witnessed the Black Swan event. JCD selling his wine collection is an economic indicator of- I'm not selling you the entire collection there are wines in the collection And I'll just tell you what the deal is. I'm not saying that world's gonna burn but this is clearly You cannot afford to drink these wines! That's the problem John this is an economic indicator epic proportions It might be This is the tipping point

38:29 Well, for my collection I hope. When is the auction taking place? Are you doing this on eBay? No no no there's these auction houses that specialize in wine. There are places that buy and sell wine. There is huge infrastructure for selling your wine if you have the right one to sell. The right one to sell would be just a single magnum of Latour 1990 I have a bottle of some wine. Can I guess the price of the Latour 1990 without googling or anything? Because, I've had Latour and I would say that's going to be about... it would for... I would say $2,000? Yeah probably something like that might be more because Latour 90 is considered one of the greatest Latours ever. And you only have one?

39:23 I have a bottle which i'm keeping and I have a magnum, it's the magnum that im selling. Can we... can I come over one day and just like go crazy running around naked and drink the other one? No Just like straight out of the bottle? It is nice thought but its not going to happen Oh okay well..I just had....i can dream You could drink a bottle or something Im sure one of these oh here it is heres the 1990 Latour Bordeaux Magnum from Colt wine You still there yeah, no I'm on the floor still for $2,500 that's close. Yeah you were that was actually good guess uh? I can't afford to drink a twenty five hundred dollar one oh duh ah

40:04 I just can't. No, of course not! But somebody else can so they have it right now. Well i'm sad for you because I wish we could hang around and drink $2500 bottles of wine that would be an afforded that would be a nice life and the hookers are getting cheaper and better looking this is Dvorak's law So that's not going to happen. However, we do have people to thank who keep us on a fine diet of mac and cheese as we continue to get by bringing you the best podcast in the universe value for value is our motto and We're going to thank the executive producer. Do we have producers today? And associate executive producers for show number 526

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49:55 You know, we got a long note from making up for it is Roy Pingel in New York 211. Hey guys are better than you guys are better than mythbusters love your deconstruction but what do you think sometimes it seems to me that the US public can pretty easily deal with the abstract knowledge that his government has the ability to spy on everyone this knowledge remains a suspicion, a rumor and idea. The public does not have to do anything about it except maybe use the knowledge in cafe small talk or small group discussions around conspiracy theories." And he goes on... I'm not seeing where he's headed with this. Keep going! Maybe something will happen. On the other hand when the knowledge becomes concrete with documentary proof that your government is consistently- Oh i see what he's referring to as

50:38 that we've known that this has been going on but because Snowden came around and actually had a slideshow because we're, because the public at large are idiots unless they see a PowerPoint. They don't believe anything. We need pictures pretty pictures with colors Don't make me read Now you really have to do something that about concrete knowledge now You have to act very few in the u.s Public want to be in that situation very few want to have the concrete proven knowledge at their government is criminal and That they're governing authorities are criminals and even fewer once you have to act on that knowledge to have to do something They will not be appreciated if

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54:55 It's a good group. Good group. Yeah, very very good group Thank you those of course are also official credits which means they're good in the in the world of show business You can use it anywhere. You can flash your cards excuse me executive producer I have a question ask Adam okay do I need to play the jingle or trust me? The jingle we don't need what are you sure oh Does she have a new one no? Okay play this is the clip we've had before me. We're gonna play it again Oh, let's play that clapper says no way Mm-hmm okay you know clapper I think it was with a C But I'll let you slide today

55:36 Jesus so what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds? Of millions of Americans. No sir it does not know data, but not wittingly There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps collect but not wittingly. Baby it didn't happen wittingly it just kind of slipped up a little bit I'm sorry So the question for you is why isn't this guy brought in front of Congress on charges of perjury? Well that would make no sense

56:19 He perjured himself, he lied. That was a lie. It was blatant lies and he admitted it later. Yeah well I mean do you expect me to ask? I'm just wondering why because they threw Martha Stewart in jail for less than this! This is right in front of Congress, a bold-faced lie. But clearly... Why isn't there contempt of congress?! I'm asking you, tell me. Explain it to me! I just trying to understand from my constitutional expert here, you. Oh well thank you very much for recognizing my years of study this is of course because birds-of-a-feather flock together they're all criminals and crooks and they're not gonna make any stink all they need to do is just kill a celebrity or bring... hey call up the globe

57:08 And tell him that Michael Jackson had sex with 25 kids. That'll keep him busy for a while Because they're all criminal, that's why. This is what's going on constitutionally of course They should be thrown out We should have pitchforks and shotguns And we should be on the mall in Washington D.C., we should be calling for their heads to be chopped off But again you know the nature of show business is just too appealing We are distracted by way too many things The New York Times Did you read the opinion piece? By any chance

57:44 that came out yesterday, I was blown away by the New York Times saying it is criminal. The Obama administration has overstepped their constitutional boundaries. Yeah of course I read this! And but they said but the American public just goes and look the New York Times wrote the American public goes meh. Meh? That's a word they used in the article... The New York Times yeah so there's your answer meh United States of America No, but it's a very important to Lindsay Lohan find justice. Yeah Of course I like that the United States of America That's who we are When did you see by any chance John the interview with Charlie Rose and mi5 no Okay well am i fine jealous? Mi 5 is of course The Guardian

58:48 The Brits now here's it hit me when I saw this and you've really got to get on the Charlie Rose tip because people think that they're talking to an elite audience who go on the show like, and Charlie Rose thinks that he is asking all of the right hard elite questions. Well we have tracked him before and find him asking a lot of leading questions. Oh totally! He is a handler but what's interesting Say things that never you know it's for it's like an insiders club because no one has It's you. It's hard to wear Charlie Rose is almost as hard to watch a C-Span He is in the level of paint drying when it comes to this show

59:32 So now he has the two editors on from The Guardian. And the first thing that strikes me is, oh my god! This whole thing, this Snowden thing which of course we know there's messaging, there's fractions warring internally... This is, you know... this is the MI5 has been setting us up for this and I'll play just a little bit of these two Brits. And it just makes you sick to your stomach that what are these? Go away with the Brits already! Just get out of our country! I need the premise better because you said there's no MI5 person here though technically

1:00:13 Technically, maybe not. We have two British editors from the Guardian... Well I would say one is MI5 and the other is the editor who had the handler who worked with Glenn who then work with Snowden but the big reveal is coming after this little setup. Its future remains unclear meanwhile the revelations continue today The Guardian reported that the National Security Agency had been collecting... Again this is The Guardian so Charlie Rose doesn't even go to the Washington Post. He goes to The Guardian. America's bulk email data for a decade, gentlemen now the editors under whose watch the leaks became public Janine Gibson is the US editor of The Guardian and Russ Bridger is the paper's editor-in-chief I am pleased to have them here at this table welcome so my question here and I have no more questions what does The Guardian know

1:01:06 Maybe you'll tell me! Well, we have more material. Listen to this guy listen to what he's saying very closely to the words We have more material and we're doing what a news organization should do which is to sit through it And I think the reason that Snowden gave it to a news organization Is he felt that this whole area of oversight This debate about the boundaries between security and privacy uh... is not he thinks safe in the hands of the people who should be doing that. Okay, stop right there! You're telling me that Snowden felt that the debate which was not going on that the debate about privacy and security was not in their right hands? Uh-uh That is a psychological operation this guy's playing right there That is bullcrap The debate came after

1:02:04 these documents came out. That's not why Snowden said, oh I don't know if the balance is right if it's in the right hands this is coming from The Guardian? John am I imagining things here? Keep playing at that this is interesting so the judicial well and then I think that's the debate we have to have what does he mean debate we have to have who are we Kimo Sabe get the F out And I think... And the debate that was suggested by the president, although i'm not sure it should be debated. Sure, sure and I think we know a lot more than we did a month ago um uh he thinks that congress has been misled and the courts that are doing this are secret and are effectively rubber stamp courts That's his opinion and so you're saying here is news organization will give to you want you act responsibly and put things into public domain that you think should Really? really

1:03:01 He went to the... which he did not. We know that he did not go to The Guardian, he was approached by the filmmaker Leni Ruffenstahl and whatever her name is, and she then went to the Guardian and to The Post. So this guy he's lying! I think they went to The Post earlier they just sat on it right? Correct correct It wasn't until Greenwald started doing stuff that The Post brought their stuff out but it came via the filmmaker Whatever the case was they were getting nowhere Yeah so this guy but this guy is lying And he saying he wanted to be in safe hands What?! That'd been known about

1:03:38 Okay, now here's what I understand. You call him up... Okay so now he is talking to the woman who is beside herself with how awesome she is and she's Glenn Greenwald's editor And say have a little story that you need to talk about? Well, actually I texted him. Oh you texted him? Okay. Of course you did! But yes, I did say... Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho John did you catch that little ditty she threw out there very good hilarious we have a little story that we might want to have a chat about

1:04:29 At that point I understood from Glenn that he had a significant amount of... He wanted to be in the reporters. Glenn Greenwald, yes that he had a significant amount of... No! Glenn Campbell what were you thinking? Yes but i was thinking Glenn! That was an unnecessary interruption to make yourself look knowledgeable on the topic interviewers do this a lot It's like throw out a non sequitur completely irrelevant to the... everyone knows it's Glenn Greenwald. Greenwald, I did my homework yeah plays Extremely secret material It's like Bono oh you mean of U2? Yeah thank you And the broad, very broad brush of what it was and of course what we didn't know at that point was whether

1:05:15 verified, whether we could verify the source and we were communicating by phone which you know as this story if nothing else shows that's not a great way to be communicating. One of the great challenges with this story has been how you can communicate with reporters in many time zones when you can't really communicate by phone This... That's not what this story was about I'm sorry that was the previous story of the AP reporters being spied on. This is not your story but okay So he got on plane and came to New York, and we had a look through a sort of sample. A sample? A sample! Was he showing like swatches of clothing? Which turned out to be the 41 page prism presentation. He looked at that and thought well...

1:05:58 that's quite a big story if it turns out to be true. Oh interesting, if it turns out to be true which of course has not really been verified and they really did no business verifying it so she goes on a little bit with that but here's where it blew me away and I don't understand why this is not front page New York Times well of course I do but that would be in Ask John it would be silly when Julian Assange went to with Wikileaks when Bradley Manning went to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks what did WikiLeaks do with the material? Did they a publish everything in a fine database format so the entire world could download it and take a look at it no or did they be

1:06:46 Handed over to a number of select mainstream media publications who then dissected it and talked to various agencies about what they could actually publish or not. Yes! Okay, how did it work with the Guardian John? Well at least to me that could be the same process You believe national security in United States has been damaged I do not. But the question was, do you believe by publishing this that the security of the United States... ...the national security of the United States has been damaged? Her answer as you just heard was, I DO NOT! Do you believe national security in the US has been damaged? I do not and we have consulted with the authorities about everything that we have published and invited them with the NSA, with the White House, DNI

1:07:39 Is this damaging to national security and should we, is there any real reason we should not publish this? We've invited specific national security concerns about...We let them know what were going to publish. And you know to the specifics of which slide or which presentation on which document on which date And... Well, do you tell me how that happens? Wait a minute. So they called the White House called DNI called the NSA said here's what take a look at this we want to publish these slides on this date at this time in this publication Do you have a problem because it's interesting to me It's come up before with other news organizations in the United States. Do you go to an essay authorities whether its General Alexander or someone else and say This is what we're prepared to publish

1:08:25 is what's the next part of the question? Well in this situation you're not really asking a question because you have information. You say I'm going to publish this, what your response? You're saying that this is what we have do you have specific national security concern that you would like us to alert us too? That's a question. Yes it is or we are inviting you to raise and then we don't guarantee that we will agree with their interpretation but what was saying is we'd like to hear that and... And you heard Um, actually we haven't heard specific national security concerns about any of the two. They've never expressed any national security-specific concerns?

1:09:06 Hmm. Hold on a second, there's a couple that brings up an interesting point. Well yeah how about the people are going to die? That water millers saying this is the worst disaster ever and they should arrest Glenn Greenwald! Here is the publication saying do you have a national security issue and they didn't even answer So, you tell me what's going on here. That sounds like a number of possibilities one all the information is bullcrap they're doing a lot more and this is just the smoke screen to make it look like they're not mm-hmm could be testing the waters we could have this phony slideshow maybe only has two five slides mmm and they're testing the water to see how at the public reacts to this as the public is good with it

1:09:48 Fine, throw the switch. We'll just put everybody in a database and we'll spy on everybody 24-7 who cares what difference does it make? It's funny you say that John because on my favorite show Aaron Burnett had our favorite guy Wes Clark known as the Wes Clark 7 And it's like you're taking the words right out of his mouth. Everything he was going to release that was a problem, was done at the beginning but then he said I'm worried about things he may still have so which is it? Well I think-I think that the fact is that the way it came out back at the time of this summit meeting with Chinese president It was hurtful But on the other hand there may be some more stuff behind it but the truth is

1:10:28 People know what's in there and the American people are solidly behind the prison program and all that's going on. The American people want protection, and most people say look if they can...if that's what it takes I'm happy so I think the president is on very solid ground here let it work out Edwards Snowden's gonna disappear from the pages of history. I love that little pause he's gonna disappear from the pages of history So now you can put The New York Times into context They are not on your side. They are part of the, oh everyone's fine with it program That's what's going on here It is to marginalize anyone's any dissenting voice saying excuse me You're clearly not with the majority you're not with the cool kids. Everyone's fine with this Everyone's fine Clearly America is behind prison

1:11:25 That's what he just said! And then Aaron Burnett goes, yeah! She said yes. She is in total agreement. Because she works at the...she is a council of foreign relations member Yeah and of course the president has to downplay it just a little bit I think that was the funniest line I heard all week Well I'm not going to be scrambling jets To get a 29 year old hacker I love that. I am keeping that Because this is in the same... to me, in the same line as this one. It hasn't happened yet but it will. Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city No racing to an airport and across a terminal no delays no sitting on the tarmac no lost luggage no taking off your shoes. Yeah okay we're lining them up they'll be more like that

1:12:25 and then his dad comes out. Snowden's dad this to me yeah this was interesting you got his dad your take on that okay well this is not his dad ah i don't know who this guy is but you're a father okay your kid screws up they'll say you know j or jc so you know they screw up in big time And let's just leave out of the equation whether you're conflicted about whether the kid did the right thing or not. This is not how a father talks. At this point I don't feel that he's committed treason. The father of former CIA contractor Edward Snowden told NBC News today his son is not a traitor He has in fact

1:13:20 broken US law in the sense that he has released classified information and if folks want to classify him as a traitor, in fact he has betrayed his government but I don't believe that he's betrayed the people of the United States. This is unbelievable to me First of all, the guy is a talker. He's spoken on television or he has spoken before microphone or before media I don't know too much about him and haven't put a lot of research in but I saw this and was like that's not his dad That's not his father! I do care what you're saying thats not how parents speak That's not how they act around their children. Your thoughts, Johnson Dvorak child behavior specialist? I'm 100% with you on this it sounds... Well he did break US law! Nobody would say that if you're generally speaking especially in some situations He didn't do anything wrong There are a million ways of doing this but don't come out with the statement like he broke U.S. law I know! I am programmed to talk this way But it was like

1:14:23 Yeah, yeah I think that you may be an actor. I'm thinking total actor. Lonnie Snowden also told Attorney General Eric Holder he believes his son would voluntarily return to the US to face espionage charges if the Justice Department promises not to hold him before trial or subject him to a gag order. Snowden himself remains out of sight His passport has been revoked by... This is another thing that's bothering me about this story this continuous messaging and this is where I think we get into the messages that are being sent with all this his passport has been revoked what does it blow up it burned in midair when you go to like Russia, they don't give a crap. What does it mean?

1:15:12 Well, there's a couple of things. I thought about this too and I've been...I thought it was very strange if i'm in South America with an American passport going from country to country just go from country to country look at the passport they look at you they stamp but your done yes they don't do not hook to the US database are not hooked any data even if they are what do they care Yeah, they don't care. The revocation... This passport's no good! Revocation means you're- Your money is no good with us. No I think it means that- It's like the PayPal thing we have. Well yeah well I think it's worse when your- let me consult the book of knowledge while you give your opinion. What I'm saying in the PayPal case apparently people get- we are killing peoples passports to pay us Anyway thats a minor point and I can't really go on about it

1:16:00 What does it mean when your passport, okay revocation I guess would be the word. What does passport revocation actually mean? I don't know what does it mean. I don't know how you even do it in fact if you're in court and you were gonna if You're a flight risk they take your passport that's the only way you can keep people from using a passport. Okay well have it here 51 point six five of USCIS gov's whatever they call it, notification of denial or revocation of passport. A, the department will notify in writing any person whose application for issuance of a passport has been denied or whose passport has been revoked. The notification will be set forth with the specific reasons for the denial or revocation and if applicable procedures for review are available an application for a passport will be denied or treated as abandoned if an applicant fails to meet his or her burden of proof

1:17:01 It doesn't say anything about what this means. I think it means you can't come back into the country! It has nothing to do with traveling around the world and revoking...it sounds like his passport flew out of his bag. You have no passport now all of a sudden, he still has a passport? This is very weird, this is messaging and I'm not quite sure if its really intentional but feels like it No, I have a hundred percent with you on this. It feels like it because i've noticed this meme coming up over and over all his passport was revoked Oh, how can the russians let him go? His passport was revoked obviously they have no concern for the rule of law by the way our economic hitman has some Stuff coming in on uh, the syrian situation. Ah nice and apparently according to his people is or his milieu yeah, the

1:17:58 Syria has long since, I don't have all the details but it's long since been a proxy war. Not about pipelines but pipelines are part of it but there is even more to it than that but its a proxy war with the United States and Russia using Syria as their you know... Sure And the Chiners Ah then drugs must be involved? I dont know but theres something going on he was in there, you sent him from the phone hes on the move Wait a minute wait a minute you didn't answer the call did you? Call, oh do you turn on the scrambler or how's he getting touch it was it was a text message over. Oh no I figured you know they've been you know they just do this any routine Did he use code like no code no code of God No, are you kidding me

1:18:47 No, this is fine because you were it's only apparently if you're using encryption the latest word is Yeah, if you use encryption or tor then you actually are targeted yeah Because you must have something to hide that's right. That's exactly it oh wait I had a jingle for that too hold on a second where is all my goodness Wow, there's- I have so many... So many cool jingles to play. First let's do this one. Aww

1:19:44 Could you hear that over the Skype? It was it was hard to understand. Oh someone tell me where the hell is Snowden because I know I need a little bit Am I over modulating no, no it was coming through clear as a bell. It's just like it was muffled Wow okay As a production well thing yeah, I don't think it's useable well. It's not I mean You know this is our producers. You know they just throw stuff Yeah like this one John Kerry is the Snowden. It's David Bowie sending in some tracks for us This time you really pissed the song Told the people all our secrets Now the drones are coming for your ass Cause' you and you, You're not playing by our rules

1:21:03 Well intended yes So it were I just said the word so good caught myself. That's a positive sign I cut myself saying amazing a couple of times not to not today No, no, I mean at the dinner table Oh, and they set to the point that we got the dinner table who has to oh? I know rules all its gotten so Mickey And I are catching each other on it now so so so so so far latido Where were we uh? That we're all going to a hell in the hand basket. South Carolina's Lindsey Graham was among the Republican supporters. You will be paying taxes, you're gonna have the pleasure of getting know the IRS like the rest of us. Welcome to America! That's right I just want to make sure that got that in there welcome to America So I think Anderson Pooper is kind on the Snowden side of this equation because I'm kinda keeping tabs on these guys What do you mean?

1:22:01 Sorry, what do you mean on the Snowden side? Well he's on the snowed and grin Glenn Greenwald side because he was had green walled on this is a why Is he playing the gay card is just like him. This is no no oh I didn't think of that mm-hmm could be Well he definitely is defending Greenwald. I have a couple clips that talk about the real sleazeball which is Peter King who apparently accused Greenwald of threatening the country by, by... He says he was gonna out all these CIA agents around the world! About time And... I never said that but Peter King says he should be jailed immediately and so this

1:22:40 Was kind of upsetting to greenwald. This is a king part one Yeah, I play King part when you get a little bit feeling for it on Fox News He went even further when he was talking about Megan Kelly He said that glenn Greenwald who writes for the Guardian? Should be prosecuted because he's in also because he threatened to reveal the identities of Ci agents and other personnel operating around the world we've researched this we found absolutely no evidence that Glenn Greenwald has ever said that and And in fact, we're going to talk to Glenn Greenwald right now from The Guardian. Hey girl! So Glenn, Congressman King is saying you are threatening to disclose names of CIA agents and officers and other personnel around the world and says that's a direct attack on America and that's the reason why you should be prosecuted I haven't found any quote where he threatened this and the congressman's office hasn't responded to our request for proof You actually said this so just for the record

1:23:32 Have you or are you threatening to disclose the names of CIA agents and officers around the world? Yeah, The reason you haven't found that Anderson is because it doesn't exist. I was really staggered that a United States congressman, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee actually could go on national television and make up an accusation literally fabricated out of whole cloth Really? You were stunned by this, Glenn? Stunned that he could- He plays a good what?! Stunned that this can happen really? That you were just flabbergasted. I think he's doing it for a guy who... I tend to agree may have been set up for this whole thing Yeah I think he has been playing this better than I could

1:24:15 Yeah, I was handling it. Well, I would have been not flapped my brass or what's fluster he's not a lustered yeah I would have just so done by now like okay? I've done the look act one two and three are over yeah No He's hanging in there is like this is more than 15 minutes of fame now the one that really got me And its woods and I've actually correspond with some people about Sorkin Andrew Ross Sorkin who's on CNBC another journalist from the New York Times saying that Greenwald should be prosecuted or maybe arrested which is a funny thing for a journalist to say about a journalist I mean David Gregory. It's an out chip, it's an outrage it isn't outraged for any journalists to talk this way you're not a journalist if you say that

1:25:02 And let me, I want to play these two clips because first he says this and the next day apparently got a lot of flack from everybody and so he apologizes. And the reason that i want to play the apology is because there is no apology! It's one of the great things to deconstruct it's got performatives its got all crap in there and he never says I'm sorry Glenn. Play the first where he actually calls for his arrest Let's talk about some of the headlines. The big one this morning, there is heavy security this morning at Moscow airport today National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden Yep he is there There are speculations that he is planning to fly to Havana on route to Ecuador The government of Ecuador has confirmed it is considering an asylum application for Snowden He faces American espionage charges now after he admitted to revealing classified documents and I gotta say

1:25:55 This is, I feel like A. we've screwed this up to even let him get to Russia B. clearly the Chinese hate us To even let him out of the country I mean that says something Russia hated us and we knew that beforehand but that's sort of right And now? I don't know and then my second piece of this I told you in the green room I would arrest him and now I'd almost arrest Glenn Greenwald the journalist who seems to be out there almost he wants to help them get to ecuador care whatever's i mean it's almost like a whole and if you can then we would really diplomatic issue as well but he's also just throwing stuff out there is that uh... wiki leaks in the snow cones when he was also on the bond

1:26:35 On the bubble he that that show that he does. He was moved to CNBC to take over Aaron Burnett spot And he that's did ratings have tanked and there's lots of stories about how they want to get rid of him So he's I think just grasping at straws trying to be mr.. Personality, but see no wiki leaks Yeah, then they have them and in the panel to get out there are the other people that are there There's one woman uh-huh like an old black woman So, uh... it's ridiculous. So the next day he realizes that he is an idiot for saying this and so he does his apology And I want you to listen every word of this apology because he is apologizing He says he regrets saying it Just address something that I said actually about Snowden Performative number one Let me address something

1:27:22 Right off the bat. I won't stop the clip anymore just wanted to say that I heard it right there Just address something that I said actually about Snowden yesterday in relation to that snowed and story and Glenn Greenwald The Guardian journalist who broke this note in story? I put my foot in my mouth, and I'm sorry about this so when I veered into hyperbole and suggested That he almost be arrested That was the quote and then have to say didn't come out right and I misspoke I'm sorry. I said it that way and I'm sorry, I said it I didn't realize actually the way I said until later when I saw the clip just a little context because I know there was some media around this I was trying as we did in another segment to raise a question not about the legality of publishing the leaked information about the NSA but About the implications if a journalist aided someone like Snowden in trying to evade authorities on the run And what that would all mean and I overstepped with my language Let me be clear just a couple

1:28:10 things here i'd leave of course in the first amendment transparency reports investigative journalism like the reports about the nsa programs and i think they're fair important questions to be asked about the government and our privacy on this ongoing story but i also think that their questions we have much better himself and the role of the media but all my comment about greenwald ira credit you know when you live uh... tv for three hours every single day sometimes make mistakes a thing we don't mean and out with hope by that when we do acknowledge it corrected and uh... I wanted to do that here on this program. Yeah, okay well regretting it is something different than apologizing i agree there's something different there and what is that awful music if they stay if they stop the music maybe they get some ratings deal is hum that's just super annoying super annoying and this guy is a dick he's a total dick he's and david gregory who got eviscerated chip

1:29:04 Chip, Chip Gregory who got eviscerated by apparently Frank Rich who wrote I think in New York Magazine and Frank Rich is considered the columnist's columnist. He is the top of the heap for... Oh no wonder I don't know he is Yes of course but if you were a writer you'd know who he is and he just essentially said that David Gregory is not a journalist and he's a clown. He's a douche! And when you play the David Gregory clip from the last show, which is the one where he's calling out Greenwald. Yeah, you didn't play the second one which was later in the show and he's with a bunch of creeps They're all the same boat. Oh You know this is terrible We know we should trust our government more But I want to play this clip because This is his apology kind of and it's not an apology in any way He's essentially gloating over the fact that he's gotten attention

1:29:57 You know, part of the tactics of this and part of the debate is frankly around journalism. And Glenn Greenwald referenced it when I asked him a question about whether he should or will face charges which has been raised and you know i want to acknowledge there's a uh... debate on twitter that goes on online about this even as we're speaking in here's what greenwald has tweeted after his appearance this morning who needs the government to try to criminalize journalism when you have david gregory to do it and i wanna directly take that on because this is the problem with someone who claims that he's a journalist who would object to a journalist raising questions, which is not actually embracing any particular point of view. Wait a minute! Did he just go meta? Because you said that I didn't say that I said it did he really say something that I said or not? And that's part of the tactics of the debate here when in fact lawmakers have questioned him there is a question about his role in this uh... The Guardian's role

1:30:49 and all of this, it is actually part of the debate. Rather than going after the questioner he could take on the issues and he had an opportunity to do that here on Meet The Press. What is journalism Mike Murphy? And what is appropriate is actually part of this debate. Absolutely! And the great irony to me about all this is a so-called whistleblower can only go to almost rogue nations to hide Because anywhere there's rule of law, he'd get extradited. He's a felon and he's a fugitive It's bad sign for Hong Kong that has built an image of having its own independence from the PRC with its own system of law That's up in smoke today And that's going to have repercussions on our relationship I think with the Chinese So we'll see what happens

1:31:27 on the run in Caracas but it's clear he is a felon and fugitive and he will not have a good life now. What do you mean? Sounds like a great life! Mike Murphy, as a Republican stooge should be ashamed of himself this man is not a felon how do you become a felon by being convicted yeah Yeah, he's not convicted. He hasn't even had his day in court so how is he a felon? A felon and fugitive! This guy should be ashamed of himself this is the kind of guy that sits there on the meet the press show saying this sort of thing and Gregory says nothing about it you know the so-called whistleblower as a felon and a fugitive then he goes on and on and nobody stops him and they other guys all round the whole table

1:32:09 are a bunch of, the whole group was huge group of douchebags and they were just thinking they were making points with I don't know who. But by the way, just to mention one thing, part of this show because one of things that i do is I'm the beauty contest guy and I... That's what you do? It's what I do. And there was, I saw...I caught this and we didn't report on it because it was all in Spanish but I saw the Miss Venezuela. Yes? The Miss Venezuela competition. I don't know why that was on the Dish Network but it was. If Snowden has a clue he'd go to Venezuela

1:32:50 I would say that this was... This was the most- There were like 50 of the most- It was outrageous! Stunning, stunning, stunning. Yeah, I'll bet let me check Miss Venezuela Did you record it? No no this is just like months and months ago Images for miss Venezuela Oh yeah there's- And they're all built Oh my goodness Ah i know what i want for my 50th birthday Miss Venezuela, runner up. Who cares? Give me the one who got the poodle prize I don't care What do you call it when your last... I think you have a word for that That's Dutch Poodle Prize It's the... Give me the door prize! I'll take anything Wow, that was pretty amazing Now Mickey is going to come home like Uhhhh I heard that Is there a problem? No honey

1:33:55 Anyway, so these guys are just really can I make an observation about this? Yeah go ahead okay, so oh God. I did a really long one that was bad the American public and the European public Europe is you know now we have Europe saying hey ah dash built is saying, hey the Americans spied on EU parliament members. The Dutch and the Germans and all these countries are handing over information this one big spy network every government everything the whole thing is everyone's spying on everybody and the population in general

1:34:36 It is meh. They don't care, and meh is close to beh. They don't care! They don't care! You gotta use that at the beginning of the show. Meh is close to behh. They really don't...care. Okay? And I see things in the chat room people say, hey you know Snowden's waking people up. I'm sorry no he's not waking anybody No it's not true. It is not true and what's happening is the corporate owned media and the little pieces don't make up that much individually, but together it's kind of the wall of information. And I'll talk about a little bit later when we talk about some local stuff here in Austin

1:35:21 And people don't really, you know, analyze stuff the way we do it. And they just take these bits and pieces and all these media outlets that just copy each other and its copying of copying before you know what you've got kind of your right. It can't be undone. You know? It just can't be undone and that's the way it is and its fact and it's the truth and that's what it is. People do not care in general. The thing that it's uncovering for me personally...and I have a little clip here about the generals and admirals as something that I didn't really realize. What this Chip Gregory thing, and all these guys... It is showing you the elite structure, the elite political military media industrial complex Really it's illegal to put the lawyers in there somewhere as well but the politicians are kind of lawyers these days

1:36:17 And they have nothing but one big fricking party, one big group and it's all who is above who and whose got the bigger jet. And whose got more cars in the entourage? You can see this I was always under the impression until i saw this report that when we... When I grew up It would be like hey man he's a five star general I thought a five-star general meant, you know someone... You get medals for stuff but then you've like beaten enemies with your bare hands. You know? You've jumped out of airplanes without parachutes. You led your men into battle! I thought that was an award and it turns out it's a job description

1:37:03 This is General's Row, a line of luxurious mansions in the corner of Washington where some of the military's top brass call home. Today's Navy has nearly as many admirals as it does ships. There has been an explosion of perks and officers to enjoy them. What it going to look like if somebody sees you staying at Ritz Carlton? you know, for four days and doing one hour's worth of work. The Pentagon is still struggling to reduce the number of stars nearly a thousand generals and admirals even as DoD civilians prepare for furloughs Meanwhile, the number of enlisted soldiers and Marines is being slashed. Since the year 2000 the ranks of generals have been swelling especially at the top The number of three and four stars rose by 20 percent The more stars, the more they earn up to a hundred eighty thousand dollars And they're surrounded by an entourage of speechwriters, schedulers in security even a personal chef In some cases their own sixty million dollar jet

1:38:07 I get that the four-star running NATO needs a Gulfstream because he's got to have a plane to get around Europe, but...but he is not the only one. There is also a Gulfstream attached too assigned to if you will the Secretary of Army Chief of Staff for the Army and the Undersecretary of Army and Vice Chief of Staff for the Army Former Pentagon Budget Official Raymond Dubois says the Pentagon needs to stop creating expensive 4 star slots for every new command Did you know any of this? Yeah, I knew all this. But really when it's in your face like that? Well probably nothing to think about but yeah and then you're out of control And then take into account that you've got Nancy Pelosi flying on her own jet You've got Watermelon Head flying on his jet The Obamas fly two jets Everyone has a jet 747s by the way Everyone has a jet Everyone has an entourage Everyone has personal chefs They make $108k a year plus

1:39:02 personal chef plus a limo. That's just pocket money, pocket money! Pocket money! Right because they get all these perks and the perks are at least $1 million dollars a year for each one of these guys and it's all one big douchebag elite circle and this, you know I'm thinking it's about time we blow up Washington DC. Look i'm sorry well have you know we'll have some poor people... Knock on the door coming! Yeah I'm sorry we'll have some poor people who die in the process but really uh oh. And and so now

1:39:38 So it's gotten so bad and I have to think a lot of this is coming from the White House directly, and not from the new President Obama. The new invigorated guy It's Valerie Jarrett. It's the Chicago mobsters whatever connection it is they...so first there was like oh he really watched what we do now? And they got Petraeus And they screwed that guy. They screwed... I'm not saying he was a douchebag, he had an 18 motorcycle motorcade and you know? He was part of the big thing like oh! You're not gonna play by our rules? You're not going to protect our ass in Benghazi? Watch what we do with you okay?! Boom! You are out

1:40:15 And just to show everyone, just to show everyone that you know what? You want to...you think you can get out? You think you can just drop out and then your out. I don't think so! There is more tonight on a story we broke here last night It's about retired Marine Corps General James Cartwright who was this country second ranking military official and how he is being investigated in connection with leaking information about a secret US cyber attack against Iran Now this report John, I wanna play the rest of it I don't know what you thought. I thought, wow they are messaging something really big here this is a message because it was the White House themselves who leaked this but the message is we can screw anybody did you get that? No I didn't I thought you're gonna play another clip no my question is did you get that did you get that message from what they're doing with Cartwright with Haas

1:41:16 No, I can't say that idea to it. But I think you might be right. Why don't you... yeah maybe. I'll play the rest of the clip and then you tell me. Play the thing and let me know. Now remember, the story broke NBC is taking credit for it. NBC is of course the White House General Electric. General Electric blah blah we know these stories. Insiders. Insiders. NBC's national investigative correspondent Michael Istikoff continues his reporting tonight General Cartwright retired from the Marine Corps in August 2011 after nearly 40 years of service. And Cartwright continued to serve, appointed to the Defense Policy Board and elite Pentagon advisory panel with top-secret security clearance

1:41:56 But last January Cartwright resigned out of the blue, a board member tells NBC News citing health reasons and the press of business. Legal sources tell NBC News that the FBI was already investigating Cartwright suspecting him of leaking highly classified secrets about a covert US cyber attack using your computer virus called Stuxnet on Iran's nuclear program A Cartwright spokesman said his resignation was unrelated Late today, Cartwright's lawyer Gregory Craig said in a statement Attorney General Eric Holder wasn't talking.

1:42:44 Cartwright was known as a politically savvy general with backchannel contacts at the White House where he worked closely with top aides even helping select the targets for drone strikes. But his real mark was in developing the country's future military needs in cyberspace I'm telling you this is a message that nothing's gonna happen to the guy but this is a message... No, nothing will happen probably the message I think you're right about what you know see did something they had And I'll bet that there wasn't even, I'll bet that they actually get him to resign because instead of making a stink which he could do. They pulled out the old blackmail thing and they probably find these like one of those guys who's probably screwing around with one of his secretaries and the NSA just pulled this file pull all those old phone calls put their brand in program to show the connections. There she is! And then they went over to her and threatened her said look did you screw cartwright?

1:43:40 Yeah Okay, good. And then you know as you shut up now and then they went and they told him to I mean this is what this is all about. This is political in fact there was a good article on one of the online magazines about one of these old 71 year-old colonelists in the Stasi, the East German police yeah? He said two things that were interesting. One he says if we had this kind of capability could we do some serious damage it would be great! If we would have won the war then he says, then he says though this is you know the East Germany and the communists. Then he says there's no way that you collect all this information and not use it! He says you always use it of course and if people don't realize that this collection of all their everything they do isn't going to be used against them if they want to get you I mean you obviously yeah most of you people listening into show

1:44:34 It's just nothing is going to happen because they don't care about you. But if for some reason somebody, and it could be a bureaucrat you crossed or somebody you lacrosse-eyed at... They want to go after you? They'll find a way and they can just take stuff out of context and put dossier together but have someone following you around I've had this happen! This happened to me in the Netherlands we've been through this several times And they humiliated me and called me a cheat, and tax cheat, liar, screwing my partners. I went through a year of bull crap and then finally when the judge ruled that I was right they had to publicly issue an apology! That was never printed of course... No fun. Before we go into our next topic... Yeah, one more Greenwald thing I want to do

1:45:26 So Greenwald went before, well before I do it let me preface it with this and by the way look for the cadence tell me that when you hear this woman. This is at a meeting called Socialism 2013 then tell me when you hear this woman introducing the session in front of the audience of 2013 tell me that You don't hear a cadence, a specific cadence that you've heard elsewhere and I'll just tip it off by saying microphone. Mic check, I'm sorry mic check. This is the way the woman opens she's up at a mic there's an audience sitting there and she instead of saying hello everybody I'm so-and-so and have a listen to this. My name is Sherry Wolf

1:46:16 This is the Socialism 2013 conference, a weekend of revolutionary politics debate and entertainment. I'd be like can't wait to hear what the entertainments gonna be like So she's yelling like Mike check. My name is Sherry Wolf! I think someone actually said that when she yelled. I think someone said my name... oh whoops I think someone actually started to say it. Good evening, my name is Sherry Wolf! I can hear someone go goody-oh! I think you're right. Oh whoops. Went too many... Greenwald was on and I have to say

1:47:04 He was on through Skype at this meeting and he was trying to be humorous but he did say something I thought was actually quite interesting. And this is it. Is this Cooper, King & Greenwald? No no no...this is Army Blocks Greenwald. Got it got it. So a lot of journalists and editors have debates about what the most prestigious journalism award is. Is that a Polk Award or Peabody or Pulitzer And those are definitely all prestigious awards, but I actually think the one that we got yesterday is a significant level above them all. And I'm very humbled and honored to have received this award The US Army announced yesterday that it was blocking access at all army facilities across the world Wow! We get blocked by Google all of time Our award is bigger than that

1:47:59 Well, the point is that we have the army of... arm of the government. While we moan and groan about China... Yeah! The reasoning and I've seen people who sent me many people who sent me the notices they received because it's all part of the same charade because some of the documents that are published in these articles are considered to be top secret they have no clearance to view them So yeah, we're totally China Russia. This is what our immigration lawyer told you that we are in we are living

1:48:37 We are, and when we played all those clips from that caucus that was discussing with the congressional aides all these interesting issues like the 50 bogus things that never happened to prevent terror. One of the guys I didn't know if I clipped it or not but one of the guys said, said uh...I know you can read The Guardian because apparently the congressional staff Can't read the Guardian? They can't read- they were apparently spooked. Really?! That's what he implied! Huh... Clark

1:49:14 Sorry Clark implied that no No, one of these guys that were giving the member that all these guys that were in front of it the congressional The party where everyone's It's its stacked with all these people right and so One of the guys implied there. I know you can't read The Guardian because of this And they just casually said it I guess everyone who watched him knows that because you don't have an iPhone So you don't have an iPhone? You can't read The Guardian Yeah, I just found out when Greenwald's new name is Clark Clark green walled. Yeah, this is a pop cultural reference I don't know if you get it. I don't Clark Griswold No national lampoons holiday Chevy Chase that's a pretty old old reference

1:50:05 Yeah, Griswold. I remember him. Chevy Chase playing the bonehead dad. Yeah okay well i guess we'll just buzz myself off for that. I think so yeah Before we go to thanking some of our supporters for the program... ...I have finally found the actual language from travel.state.gov who are in charge of your passport Passport restrictive action and future passport information. Denial or revocation of a passport does not prevent the use of an outstanding valid passport. Passport revocation may be affected when the person obtained the passport fraudulently, when the passport was issued in error, when the passport certificate of naturalization was canceled by federal court, or when the person would not be entitled to a new passport

1:50:53 The physical revocation of a passport is often difficult and an apparently valid passport can be used for travel until officially taken by an arresting officer or by a court. In other words, it's meaningless. Wait a minute! It gets better. Revocations are coordinated with the Department of Justice and the requesting agency A passport will not be revoked when whereabouts of the bearer is unknown Wow, now that's the price of admission. Right? Yeah! I'll read that to you again this is from the State Department. Revocations are coordinated with the Department of Justice and the requesting agency so that would in this case be DOJ NSA I presume or DOD a passport will not be revoked when the whereabouts of the bearer is unknown when there is a passport hit

1:51:57 on an individual within the United States based on the request, the interested law enforcement agency will be informed of the person's address so that an arrest can be made. So... The way they're playing this first of all it can't be done according to their own rules they break their own rules if it is true. So all these guys are pontificating about well he lost his passport now we can go anywhere! No it means nothing because that literally saying that a revoked passport means nothing. You can use it as a valid passport and... So he could get out of China the way he did? Yes, and the only point of... It wasn't that PRC's sneaking him out! No, the only point of the revocation is when you enter the United States when you re-enter you'll be arrested

1:52:43 That's and they call it a hit literally in this document when there is a passport hit in quotes Uh-huh, that's Hillary's old gang who wrote this I'm sure so bullshit play the bullshit. Yeah, I will Bullshit I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah, that'd be fab No Agenda! Bullshit What does it take to look this stuff up? I did it while we were talking. Yeah, I know you were doing something because you weren't paying much attention to me but you're digging away on a podcast. You did it on the fly! While we're doing the show and these guys with all their staffs... On a podcast no less. Hello! It's a podcast. These guys are all there staffs they can't even look something up and question they're on there's David Dick

1:53:38 Jim Gregory, sitting there and he could say well how did they revoke his passport when it's clear you can't really do that. Nobody asks! No because they're reading the memo that comes directly from the Ministry of Truth. But we shouldn't... This is a horrible situation were in In all your years John in all your 59 years Have you ever felt this bad about the situation at hand? There's nothing like it. Nothing to compare it to Well, that could be good The way you say it could be a good thing So we have some people to thank for this show 526 $150 came in from and says PayPal is apparently sending us money And would like to call out Google Wallet as a douchebag Hell yeah! Douchebag

1:54:29 Villiers Straus in Cape Town South Africa beautiful place by the way $119.74 and he says in de ogend Adam and John what does he say? In de ogend. In de ochtend. Oh okay yeah but okay so this is oh that's a South Africa see it's South African yeah afrikaans in de ochtend He says, he agrees with that. He says your recent episodes have been fantastic I decided could no longer continue to be a boner will other people please listen to this?

1:55:05 I agree with Adam that Nelson Mandela has been dead for a while now. We're going to talk about that right after the break by the way because i think he, I'm now wondering whether it was alive or dead but whatever the case was Obama was snubbed oh yeah well yes not being played is no one's talking about it you mean people actually hitting pictures of him with their shoes Did you see this? No. Oh, I've got the video it's in the show notes the video and people carrying signs of him and he-and it's Obama And the sign says I have changed and its Obama with a Hitler mustache Nice! Did you see that?! And I'm like they listen to our show Heil everybody is beautiful It'll be orchestrated Heil South Africa Um

1:55:52 The ruling ANC can benefit more from him being in critical condition than from him being dead. If all the slaves keep praying for Mandela to get better, they'll forget about the president's $200 million private home built with taxpayer money and the fact that police killed 34 not 33 but close striking minors last year among other scandals please call Jacob Zuma out as a douchebag. And we have the birthday call out on the list. Yes, we do. Okay. Onward Anonymous 100 bucks from Randwick New South Wales Australia We get some karma for him at the end Richard Ballard in 7272 from Auburn Vermont Andrew Lemence or lemessony I think he would skipped over Sir Borislav Marinov

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1:59:12 Uh, yeah it's just like an Arabic in the morning. Please call out Joel Mifsud as a douchebag. Fialsaba? Actually that came from Paul Webb. Well Paul Webb called out Joel as a douche bag and he is in Twickenham Middle School. That's all we got! of the $50 donation. I just gotta keep saying it's a great word, great phrase. Fiyal sabah ala Akbar! They'll be knocking on the door pretty soon aren't they? You know you can make jokes about it but you better hope they don't because ya know... Yeah I know I'm screwed We're each others ticket baby

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2:00:48 They will be, because there's no change for them. It was just another Thursday to all other countries except for the United States of Gitmo Nation which obviously is still one of our biggest markets Wait wait you're telling me there's no July the 4th in Holland? Right What comes after July 3rd then Okay, so what will happen is you're going to be hanging out with your friends and relatives And Friday is gonna be the big day because you know after you're drunk Can you do all the hot dogs and everything? And then you can just stay overnight. And then you're gonna need something to talk about and what's gonna come up It's this it's gonna be this whole weekend regardless of where you are. He's going to be oh How about that NSA spying on ya? Man

2:01:36 And that's when you get to strike. I had to call AT&T today because Ms. Mickey, even though I had the international services set up maybe it was because it was a new phone or something wasn't working. Yeah this always happens. It's annoying so I call And the guy's like, hey what can I do for you today? Like oh it's gonna take a little this morning too. It was like this is going to take 20 minutes of my life more and you know because he has to go through the whole script Do you want how many and how much data do you want? You definitely turn off the data when you're overseas now But she she's working She needs to have some access so she get tell her to get a little card over there Yeah John you can't put that into an AT&T phone it won't work doesn't have an unlocked phone

2:02:26 Okay, I'm not gonna play this game with you. Okay go on no she's not a technician She's not I am hurt to her her sysadmin okay? So she's gonna get a bill that shit the shit just has to work and let me tell you This Apple stuff it doesn't just work It doesn't just work. And then when you're trying to get it to work, and just for simple use of people who just want to use the device... ...it costs you an arm and a leg. All this jailbreaking? I'm not going to do that to my wife's iPhone! Anyway, the point is... So he then does this whole thing because well you know the data was turned off because she was there last month it was turned on I'm gonna make a put a note on your account so you won't get $1,000 bill if she went over and like he was going back and forth this whole rigmarole. And i said well the NSA has recorded this call so I know that I can always sue you for lying to me. And he went ha ha ha

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2:06:37 For your contributions to the best podcast in the universe, we highly appreciate the support. Onward to the baronets and subsequently Baron status as you move up in the world of Sherwood Forest! Need to I need to talk about something here, or did you want it? Did you have something a little thing here just to get your good just to get you in A bad mood just the piss me off good. This will work so did you see Bill Maury this no more yeah No, I don't watch him. I don't watch television. I don't want television. I'm done. You're gonna like this one She's so play is actually two of them There's one that's a little there's a mild when they had climate change guy on and it was kind of weird to listen To this clip

2:07:19 Where the guy where Mar asked a guy is it or is it too late? Is it too late We're all gonna die and the guys says no, it's not too late and mar in the background goes. Oh good It's just like jeez what is wrong when I gotta play Well, play that one for the just that's a teaser for the one that you're gonna get a kick out of. He probably can achieve that if he actually implements everything laid out and he said he said the time I love this quote he said that the time for waiting for the flat-earth society to adjourn is over That that's the kind of red meat i like to eat up but uh You know? Is it too late? I mean... The time he was talking about

2:07:58 No, it is not too late. It is not too late great we absolutely have this within our power to limit cheese to level six like it's always like Will they still have chocolate shakes at the burger King? Yes are great Okay, so now this is the one this is gonna make you know Marr marr maher yes what Marr? All right, I bring this up because besides the heroic Wendy Davis there were two stories in the news last week Dealing with teenage sex and just to be safe the Vatican issued a denial One story was about plan B. That's the morning-after pill that's the FDA says is safer than Motrin and which any American can now buy over-the-counter Just like milk and ammo

2:08:57 And because it's a birth control pill, it will prevent abortions. Now the other story was about the vaccine for HPV which is the STD that leads to cervical cancer and how that vaccine since its introduction in 2006 has reduced teenage infections by 56%. All good news right? Wrong! No over-in family values world Things like Plan B and the HPV vaccine are bad because they remove God's natural intended punishments for sluts who put out. That is awful! Awful, awful, awful... A. Being saddled with a baby you don't want or B. Stricken with a horrible disease You don't think that's how these people think? Then tell me why conservatives always couch their objections to the HBV vaccine in parental rights

2:09:53 But never complain about other state-mandated vaccines their kids have to get. Why not throw a shit fit about the measles vaccine? Or mumps, rubella, whooping cough, chicken pox... Because you don't get those diseases from screwing or yodeling in the canyon. Laugh track by the way! Total laugh track They do not want a vaccine for HPV because that's the good kind of cancer that makes hussies think twice about going all the way. That is terrible! Ron Paul, a fucking doctor said this vaccine which prevents thousands of cases of fatal disease was quote not good medicine and Michelle Bachman said it caused mental retardation Her source? The New England Journal of A Lady Who Stopped Me On The Street And Told Me That

2:11:00 Yes, Republicans actually think this vaccine encourages girls to have sex because now there are no consequences. Just the way when I got my first tetanus shot, I couldn't wait to jab rusty nails into my feet! It was a freebie! I knew you'd love it! He is the first on the train He's got a first-class ticket. Yeah, I can't even get into how asinine... Hey John fuck you fuck you It's just like it's so For it's like he's on Mars or Neptune with his analysis This is like his analysis But then but then the and laugh track are not the result is the same The audience is like oh

2:11:52 And then the hatred for people who have a different opinion and the science is in, and you're a moron. Okay so this leads me into what he started off with The heroic Wendy Davis Yes I knew that you could make a new segue Yeah So thank you it's almost like we planned this which of course we didn't because now I don't have to I'm still picking my jaw up from the floor after that clip. I need to, I'm going to recompose myself by playing a little medley of your mainstream media and the heroic Wendy Davis

2:12:28 Senator, state senator in Tejas. It was a live and unfolding political drama A woman who chose to make a stand in front of her fellow lawmakers And a viewing audience that grew based on word-of-mouth and social media It went on until the early hours this morning In the Texas State Senate An by the time it was over a lot people knew the name Wendy Davis Our report tonight from NBC's Chris Jansen The raucous cheers from the Texas Statehouse capped a long, dramatic session that had started almost 13 hours earlier. Democrats were fighting a bill they said would close 37 of the state's 42 abortion clinics. Republicans said it would make them safer and expected to win. Then came Senator Wendy Davis... I'm rising on the floor today In an elegant white suit and comfy pink sneakers, the marathon began

2:13:26 Hundreds of supporters packed in the gallery and lined up outside erupted, hoping to stall the vote. Browning out attempts to pass the bill by then nearly 200 thousand viewers had logged into a live stream of the event Amid the chaos, the bill didn't get signed in time. An unexpected victory for a woman who had defied expectations before A single mother of two who graduated with honors from Harvard Law School and today a rising political star Now what I want to talk about today because I follow this and this of course happened over a week ago And i've done a lot Thinking about this a lot of talking to people and I was trying to figure out why it bothered me so much

2:14:11 And it starts off with, I love protests. I love it when people get raucous and you see the video there were hundreds of people inside the Capitol here at the Capitol building and yelling and screaming and I loved this but I have to say you are nothing more than a bunch of icon changers and your pathetic and I'll tell you why When you hear all the news reports about this particular bill, Senate Bill 5 and i have to ask you john what is your impression that this bill is about by no you haven't read it i have of course yeah what is your impression of the bill and and the controversy surrounding well you know this is funny because i didn't think much about this whole thing window or the bills as he would like a texas bill was about taxes in his wendy davis has got a little attention for herself but those who's publicity seeker and i didn't look into my if you start at just from what i got for the mainstream media

2:15:09 Although again, like I said, I didn't even bother with it was that it closed some abortion clinics and... It was they hate women in Texas or something. That's about all like that's that's it right so the protests and it was interesting that the that all of the news reports only bring up the closure of Clinics and the reason why and by the way, there is either way know there are many clinics there but okay well And it's also this is a meme that has been propagated There is no as to my knowledge actual calculation of how many clinics would close someone said oh I If you implement these rules, and the rules are certain standards for the clinics and predominantly they have to be within 30 miles of a hospital.

2:15:56 and therefore a number of them would have to close unless, of course they I don't know like improve their situation. So but that's not what these people were protesting that's what's interesting about this because i'm so convinced that and this is a lot of battleground Texas women you know the ones like that right which I signed up for their newsletter and I started getting it. And then the next thing you know, unsigned because it's horrible spammers. Right? So a lot of battleground Texas women were there they were all saying men particularly Republican men stay out of my womb And so they weren't, you want to control our bodies. Control when we want to have an abortion and you want to make it impossible for us to have an abortion? I'm looking at that like okay, I have to read this bill what is in this because all i'm hearing from women around me who have not read the bill who only get their information from mainstream media. Yeah the fucking Republicans! They wanna tell me whether I can have a baby or not!

2:16:57 Okay, you're angry. I get it! You don't like men telling you what to do So the bill, it specifies very clearly and that's part two of the bill by the way. It's almost a minor part about what that a clinic has to adhere to certain standards which I think is kind of fair but you know there's all this pontification that because of the proximity they're going have close so many... Look! You can drive anywhere in Texas in a day You know, if so if you get an abortion. I mean are we in? Are we truly in the stone ages in Texas that the distance you have to drive and people in Texas drive four days To get anywhere that if you really feel you need an abortion, okay It's for some reason this is a problem. Oh, I'll give you that The main part of the bill

2:17:52 Was about the and this goes this goes to the core. The core of the argument in America Roe versus Wade etc is when is human life a life at what point is it as a life a human being and What does that human being or life have rights? And I was astounded To find that what was being proposed was a 20-week cutoff That's five months I was, wow. So it and this is Texas. This is supposed to be the most hick redneck crazy ass Republican state in the universe and they're actually saying well if you want to have an abortion after five months of being pregnant... You've had five months! And typically don't announce a pregnancy until three months but then five months...I remember when my ex-wife was pregnant for 5 months we were talking about this thing like it was a kid

2:18:52 Five months is a big deal. I personally feel that then there's something that has rights, but it's kind of irrelevant. Five months and they're not saying it's forbidden! Not saying that at all... They're saying you know then we have to have some questions you know? Then there has to be some really good reasons if you've been pregnant for five months or had five months to do this now women are Get insane when you and at least these women when you see when you put any type of restriction on it And I personally, you know, I've changed my views throughout the years. I'm thinking well You know if we really look at pure human rights, you know The human right start when you pop out of the womb what does it start earlier? But that's my personal conviction doesn't matter with a problem I have is

2:19:38 is that here are these icon changers who go there and they're supporting their mythical hero Wendy Davis and her shoes. You can look at the Amazon review for these shoes, like a thousand comments and one's more hilarious than the next And I'm like where is the protest for all of the real outrage in this country? And why do I not see you come out for that? You come on for this, you spend 10 hours of your day hooting and hollering about something that really is very manageable. I believe...and you go home and change your icon and tweet Sarah Palin that she's an idiot

2:20:20 But do you ever complain about the other things that happen with your body and your reproductive rights? Do you ever protest about the fluoride, another crap they're putting in your water which directly affects your child or can even give you spontaneous abortions. Genetically modified shit in your food. Chemtrails are being sprayed like bugs! And then if you do decide to have a child Do you go out there and protest for the actual vaccinations, and a-holes like Bill Maher who are telling you to stick your children with all kinds of crap that they absolutely do not need? Do you ever look at what really could be beneficial or would not could be beneficial. Or then you send your kid to school and give them psychotropic drugs like aspirin

2:21:04 and all this other crap that could be in the slave training institutions we call schools, and then to add insult to injury because you're so apathetic about the economy and society that your part of it. And your meh attitude towards everything else except some icon changing event You allow your kids to take a job at the only place still offers jobs which is the military So they can get their shit blown off while fighting some other futureless kids in the fucking sand! Where's all the writing and campaigning for that! So this is the one you've been sitting on? This little rant. Yeah, yeah makes me mad

2:21:50 Yeah, you didn't seem to be into it. I feel much better now This is why i love doing this show That was good You got out of your system my hope Oh yeah no its out of my system I just get a little annoyed by... I talked with the chicken lady at the market she's pretty funny She loves our show by the way and um..and she and she's very very new agenda And she said, oh it's so I'm so sad that Carrie uh Carrie that um Mitt Romney didn't win. I'm like are you kidding me? So he won that a-hole as president she said ah but then at least we'd have real protests! I'm like there's that that's true wow what a great line i said i gotta use that line you're so you're so right We would have had real protests people getting really angry

2:22:42 She says, no because you can't offend Obama. Which is true and I think we should probably move on to this now that Obama Have we seen this on American television? Of course it is, on RT. The US president who's on his first visit to Africa since 2009 has pledged $7 billion to help build up the shaky electric power grids of sub-Saharan countries. The move has been seen as an effort by Washington to step in and rival China as a key investor on the continent Barack Obama's, being met by protesters angry at unfulfilled pledges he made last time around. Washington has slashed aid to Africa in recent years while stepping up controversial military activity in the region as anti-american protests spiraled out of control in Johannesburg stun grenades and warning shots were fired by riot police hundreds have also been demonstrating in Pretoria and Cape Town South African politician Solly Mapaila

2:23:39 says America's pursuit of its economic interest comes at a heavy price for the continent. And this is what is amazing to me... Ah, the Russians are back! Yes and what but what amazes me is that we so now so this is what Obama was doing in Africa He's gone over there and said, oh I'm unveiling... Hello poor Africans. Hello black people! This is totally what he's doing. Hello black people of Africa you poor saps i'm bringing you electricity we have this thing we developed called electricity so you in Ethiopia Ghana and Kenya We're going to put you on this electricity stuff it'll be great And I'm going to use the OPIC

2:24:24 Yes, have you heard of the OPIC John? The Overseas Private Investment Corporation. Yes dot gov. So it's an American operation Well it's a government operation yeah government operation is OPIC let's go straight to the board of directors of the OPIC. This is, the economic hitmen are out of business! The government has become the economic hitman on the board Littlefield who's the chair Rajiv Shah he's the USAID which is you know basically State Department CIA Ambassador Miriam Shapiro United States Trade Representative So they... okay but look on the right hand side

2:25:15 Kennedy, director of Kennedy Enterprises. Then we have CEO of Gale Foods and then we have Albright Stonebridge Madeline Albright those are the economic hitmen. Demers Blaisdell Torrey Family Office what the hell's that? I'll look into that one $7 billion. And they had to AFSCME, one of the AFSCME guys. So seven billion dollars is going to be given to American corporations to go over there and do exactly what the Chinese have been doing for years! Right? The Chinese have been doing this for over a decade?! Yes!! And so we come in with our drones in Djibouti

2:26:00 And in Djibouti are the people who are protesting. Yeah, no wonder they're protesting! They're like dudes we have the Chinese we're happy... They built the roads they build the infrastructure and build the dams a lot of them don't finish so that can scam to people. Now you coming in an showing me fire and telling me something beautiful? We have something called wheels It's an insult! There is some professional organizations protesting because you can see the signs The signs are professionally made with really good American slogans But the one with Obama with a Hitler mustache is hilarious. and what do they call him, top assassin in the world. That was a good one. This is Russia? These are the Russians Yeah we welcome the top assassins We're going to be on this proxy war I think more on this show now that as we become more aware of some of the details yeah and when when this situation occurred in South Africa and then that fact that Obama went all the way down there was snubbed

2:27:00 by Mandela and wouldn't see him. And of course we'll start to see memes about well, Mandela apparently is not happy about the drones assassinating people even though Mandela's dead. There will be all this kind of messaging going on. The Russians are behind it all because they have given up on trying to be our friends. And the only good Russian is a dead Russian, John what do you say? Yeah it sounds right! This is exactly what we're gonna start seeing and it'll be interesting the way they sneak into the general public's mind that the Russians are enemies

2:27:39 It's so and it's so clear. They are starting to fool around but they're just because they can't take it anymore And what's happened? The Syrian thing was the end of the line for them that was their last port! Have you heard about the internet cables all around Africa being cut Yeah, I have heard about like every three weeks. It's cut again yeah so who's doing this? I don't know Well if you look at all means you got three players You got the United States to Chinese who are playing coy even though They're the ones getting they've got this biggest screwjob from us in Africa and the Russians we just can't take it anymore alright Alright So let's play this game Go To Maps dot Google com

2:28:19 I did this the other day and it just made me crazy. Maps.google.com, and let's just type in... Just for shits and giggles we'll just type in Israel because that will give you kind of a center point. All right, you got to zoom out all right? Excuse me. Zoom out from Israel are you doing it? Yeah man looking at Israel now okay. Zoom out so that's kinda your center point and then you see Okay, we started with top left Tunisia Got It! Then we go Libya, got it. Then we go Egypt? Got it! Then we go Israel? Got it! Then we go Jordan? Got it! We go Libya or Lebanon just about got it. And then Iraq? Got it! Syria? Got it! Turkey? Got it! Do you see what's happening do you see this entire ring all around the northern part of Africa and in the western part of Middle East

2:29:17 It's a total ring, a total buffer zone which is locking out Russia and anything they want to bring on from the right-hand side. Now the crazy thing if you type in 33 North 33 East on the map it puts you right smack in the middle of the Leviathan gas field Puts me on 33 North 33rd Street, San Jose You gotta do three three and yes. That's where the Leviathan gas He that's the Mecca right there Man I need to shake his hand exactly

2:30:03 So there's your proxy. This is global geopolitics on a global scale that most people cannot imagine because meh! And you should, anyone who's listening to this program count yourself like a lucky bastard because you have some understanding of what's going on in the world despite every effort being made to deprogram you and put in new information of important things like Well, Lindsay Lohan. Yeah exactly no I think it's a very positive thing for people to do us and it's kind of relaxing to know what's going on even if they don't have all you should know

2:30:51 You're not being suckered into believing all this weird crap that they keep throwing out there. So anyway, in today's front page of the Sunday Times... and by the way I'm killing my New York Times subscription. Maybe take it Sunday only and use some of their online resources but it is ridiculous you pile up newspapers a pile-up pile if you don't get to read half of this stuff And then stuff is dumb! There are too many features and a bunch of dumb articles about So, it's gone. Yeah it's dumb you're right. Oh can you put something in the book for me? Yeah July 12th Okay July 12th What happens on July 12th? Riots in Ireland big big big riots Could be Northern Ireland and I'll tell you why

2:31:37 Of course we will. By the way, I want to mention that this coming week is FBI six-week cycle time. Oh perfect! Well that's 4th of July we predicted something big on fourth of July right? Yeah yeah we've been predicting it for months That's why we'll be live on the air We won't stop until the FBI strikes So the Irish if you have not heard the tapes of Anglo Bank, Fitzgerald and Boe these two douchebags who were sitting there laughing about going to the Irish regulator and saying oh we need 7 billion euros to plug our hole and we're never paying you back ever. And they're laughing about it. These tapes came out and there's a hashtag, oh yeah the icon changers at work! There is a hashtag Anglo bank and jailed bankers

2:32:25 But on July 12th, and we have several Irish producers out there because I said they sent me these links. And I've put the...I'm not going to play it for you it's kind of hard to hear You can listen to it on your own It's in the show notes 526 at nashownotes.com You can listen to these douchebags laughing about how they're gonna screw the public and it turned out to be more like 30 billion The 7 was just kinda a down payment And I said to these producers, oh well this yeah. Oh wow where's all the rioting? Where is everyone running around and causing a ruckus? Nothing going to happen and they point to July 12th and if you look at the book of knowledge July 12 in Ireland is already a huge ruckus day

2:33:15 Are you familiar with this? Okay, so July 12th. They just call it the 12th in the Orange Order I'll read from The Book of Knowledge A yearly Protestant celebration held on 12th of July originally in Ireland during the 18th century Celebrates the glorious revolution and victory of Protestant King William of Orange, the Dutch douche over Catholic king James II So what happens is everyone parades around in their colors up there in Northern Ireland and they always, there's always some kerfuffle and some fighting. Prediction? July 12th will be a massive, massive protest in Northern Ireland and with a little bit of luck it'll all just be about killing bankers. I'm just hopeful! I mean jailed...I'm sorry did I say kill? I meant jailed the bankers And it could just be a massive hashtag

2:34:09 Because that's pretty much par for the typical citizen of the universe these days. Yeah, man Mep hashtag Matt Okay You must have something. I got a couple fillers Let's not bother with the filler once you feel I want you to listen to it this This is Stossel's get an award for being at libertarian that actually gets airtime Which is quite a feat? It is quite a feat so he did a couple things that caught we can use I'll just play one of them

2:34:48 We're going to play the prostitution clip. He's got a bunch of girls from one of the bunny ranches in Nevada... Why do they always go for that? That is so lame! But they are cute, that is why. Oh come on it totally lame And then he has some woman who is arguing with them and apparently Harry Reid I didn't know this was trying to abolish prostitution in the state I'm thinking, what? That's dumb. Why not just ruin the state? But just listen to this sanctimonious woman

2:35:28 Chewing out these prostitutes for being you know having a job essentially. We like it, we like it It's your own choice if you want to do it Do it and if you don't like it then leave I'm happy that you're happy That's terrific the fact that you are having a good time is not an excuse to ignore the harm tell me why It's so bad for me. Look darling, it isn't about you And you say we get our souls sucked? I have been nothing but happy! I believe that the majority of prostituted women suffer harm that is so serious... ...I would compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women absolutely So you want to basically tell everybody in the world what they can and can't do with their own bodies and take away everybody's freedom? I would like to live in a world where people didn't hurt each other

2:36:15 You should be ashamed of yourself. The Senate Majority Leader agrees! The time has come to outlaw prostitution That is a great point that I should have put in my rant Everyone's so like, oh you know I'm the boss of my own body but then you get this like but we have to outlaw prostitution and by the way... It's just same woman. That woman that your bitching about in your rant is the same woman who was sitting there telling these girls they can't do that and she'd be glad to take their freedoms away just save them right? Just the same one yeah And I'm always amazed that women say, you know, I want to have an abortion and with the right to kill my fetus or whatever. But then they're all outraged that Texas has killed 500 people on death row. Which way do you want to have it?

2:37:07 I just think... That's one of the short circuit models that i always like to use. Yeah! You know if you're for the death penalty, you should be for abortion. And if your against a death penalty, you should be against abortion but that's not the way it works No It's just the opposite is that its a short-circuit. I'm for reality shows of all of this I want to have Death Row, I want an electrocution reality show. We should have a reality show about abortions! That would be fantastic! Debbie is five months pregnant She wants to remove that baby bump Hey-o!

2:37:47 Well, we have 16... was it? I was 16 and pregnant. I love this MTV show where the kids are always like oh! I was pooping on the toilet and a kid slipped out and went through the drain pipes Those shows are outrageous Yeah You can have that but then my idea is crazy yeah Alright, well I think that's oh no. Well then we know no you can't just end me on that No, no, no, yeah like a downer as an open or no? No, no We'll end on a new sickness Oh a new type of dementia has been reported now a new type of dementia A new type of a new type of dementia Wow and you and I are prime candidates my friend

2:38:34 Doctors at the Balance Brain Center in Seoul, Korea have noticed a deterioration in our cognitive abilities that is usually only found on people who've suffered head injury or psychiatric illness. And the worst part about this dementia is it's self-inflicted according to the researchers It is overuse of smartphones tablets and game devices that tampering with balanced development of the brain so a person who spends more than seven hours a day on devices shows a significant lack of development in the right side of their brain. That is the side of your brain responsible for concentration and memory." This, by the way according to my brain professor pal The right-brain left-brain stuff has been debunked years ago And it's total bullcrap

2:39:18 He says there's no empirical evidence that one side of your brain does more than the other, does specific tasks versus the other. Did you know that? Nope! It is said in no empirical evidence whatsoever has been known for years. I'm not shocked and i don't know that because obviously the mainstream media doesn't like to discuss recent developments and science. Science?! And of course, if you're Aaron Burnett you have to take this story of the digital dementia diagnosis and make a dumb joke. That can lead to emotional problems and yes the early onset of dementia. Dementia is horrific to witness and horrible to imagine in your own life impossible to imagine this is not something to take lightly

2:40:00 And while we're not saying you should stop using your device altogether, there is a reason why for months we have warned about the slippery slope that is technology. Yes probably we sound like a broken record but you know what? We like records and probably a lot of you don't know what a record it is! But we do and were proud of it We look outside our devices for some mental stimulation and that is why we here at Outfront are not worried about digital dementia. AC360 starts right now." Wow! She thinks that people who are watching her show are young, for some reason. Memo to Ms. Burnett... Your average age is 65 girl? These people know what a record is?!

2:40:41 Douche. How dumb is that? Who writes this stuff for her and she doesn't have any ability to say- That's stupid! Jeff Zucker, I'm sure. Is Michaela gone already at CNN? Michaela?! Yeah... No she didn't even start yet as far as i can tell. No there's- Oh pfft come on the show has been on the air. I have a feeling that she's gone already something..I think I saw a message somewhere No, it said... okay hold on. CNN what is it? First Shout? What does it first...? I think she's from Saskatoon Really?! Yeah That's where all the money is! No no that's Alberta Oh. OH! Saskatoon is the Paris of Canada You know what's happening in Alberta Did you hear about this? About the floods? Yeah but not about the floods. You hear what the Mounties did

2:41:36 No, they beat someone up. They're already impatient now anger is building about what has happened while they've been out of their homes. We are supposed to be here to protect us and keep looters away and they're the ones doing looting It came to a head yesterday as word spread among High River residents The RCMP had seized hundreds of guns from evacuated homes The RCMP's own video of the days following the flood shows they did go into houses. Looking for any sign that anybody was in distress or needs assistance But the force says it only took guns that posed a safety risk In those situations when they were out in plain view and they were not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP members and safely secured The Prime Minister's office jumped into the controversy with a statement chastising the RCMP

2:42:31 We expect they will be returned to their owners as soon as possible, the statement reads. The RCMP should focus on more important tasks." Human resources in Canada are outraged by this so they came into... Video bullcrapping stupid website shit Hey! I'm sorry! Well i'm sorry I got like pre-rolls popping up I can't stop this music from playing. I'm angry Yeah, but you're gonna lose your concentration. I'm looking here June 27 2013 there's Michaela who looks different for some reason? I don't know what she did CNN's New Day rating sluggish morning show ribbed on Twitter as Jeff Zucker near six-month mark out their toast Sorry Micaela hope you got a good deal

2:43:19 Yeah, probably pay for play or whatever it's called. So what does sluggish mean? They must have zero ratings! What is sluggish on CNN?! You didn't even know if the show had started yet this is how bad it is! That's sluggish and you're in show business I'm in show business! Anyway sorry about that people of Canadia And it's like, yes you can get your gun back if you can show our legal owner of the gun. Yeah in your house that is now completely washed out

2:43:59 You're gonna go find your receipt. They took their guns! That's pretty scary Yeah, well that's gonna happen here Oh yeah of course They just can't figure out how to do it here They've tried this they try that you know they're gonna do it They haven't figured it out yet They haven't they been working on it I guarantee at a certain point the American says will just go meh Exactly, meh Here ya go All good Alright everybody, have yourselves a fantastic weekend the rest of the weekend and enjoy your week leading up to the celebration in Americas. Of our independence. I shall... I won't even-I'm gonna be nice. And remember Google Reader shuts down tomorrow

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