Episode 513 · Thursday, 16 May 2013

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A wave of federal scandals hits Washington as the IRS targets grassroots activists, Google expands its surveillance reach, and the Benghazi investigation reveals deep narrative fractures.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 513

About this episode

The Internal Revenue Service faces intense scrutiny as Acting Commissioner Stephen T. Miller resigns following revelations that conservative non-profits were targeted for ideological audits. Representative Peter King and David Petraeus are linked to a parallel investigation into the Benghazi attack, where discrepancies in official talking points suggest a coordinated effort to alter the narrative surrounding the 2012 consulate assault.

Attorney General Eric Holder confronted Representative Darrell Issa and Representative Doug Collins during a House Judiciary Committee hearing regarding the Electronic Communications Privacy Act and the seizure of AP phone records. Meanwhile, Google I/O highlights include Matt Cutts detailing Penguin 2.0 algorithm updates and Larry Page introducing facial recognition breakthroughs that analyze skin and jewelry. International reports from Mali and Syria suggest foreign aid is being diverted to protect Total oil pipelines while rebel groups resort to extreme propaganda to maintain media attention.

Queen Elizabeth II marks the 60th anniversary of the State Opening of Parliament with a ceremony critiqued for its lackluster trumpeters. Angelina Jolie’s announcement of a preventive mastectomy is analyzed through the lens of the Affordable Care Act and genetic testing patents. The program concludes with a look at Cody Wilson’s 3D-printed Liberator gun and the removal of the Gadsden flag from a New York armory.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Slogan Selection, Dame Lizzie

The program opens with a review of new potential slogans provided by Dame Lizzie. The selected slogan, "No Agenda like a kick to the crotch," is finalized after reviewing three different takes. Brief banter regarding the show's opening tightness and upcoming topics follows.

dame lizzie· slogan· kick to the crotch· podcast intro· branding

00:00 You guys are just a bunch of skeptics jerk-offs. That was one of the tightest openings we've ever done. Except you said whatever you said twice, but otherwise tight.

00:40 Yeah, but it was tight. It was tight. It was tight. It was tight Can we have a little meeting right here at the start of the show? Okay So I Dame Lizzie you're familiar with Dame Lizzie's work. Yeah, they lose. She's Dame Lizzie's work so she's she's checked back in with our new slogan and But I have three versions and I'm not sure which one we need to use so I think I know which one I like best. What is our new slogan? Oh No agenda like a kick to the crotch! Is that our new slogan? It is! It's like a kick to the crotch. That is definitely our new slogan. So, by the way, I think her handler is working on her. Here's our handler. Take it a little bit slower. There you go. Ready? This is take two. No agenda like a kick to the crotch! And then we have the third one. No agenda show like a kick to the crotch!

01:40 So which one's the third one third one? That's what I thought. Okay. Third one is it good? Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. That is our new slogan, isn't it? I thought that was in the in the previous meeting. I think it's usable. Ah Anything happen? No, not really. It was a I think a lot of these things have been dragging on. I did get a funny little thing though on the Benghazi deal I didn't pick up on until I was listening. In fact again, I was just, I was gonna make this a drunk or not drunk clip. Okay.

02:21 But I started as if it's a Peter King. Oh, yeah, and I couldn't tell if he's I Concluded that when you watched him he looked drunk, but when you listen to him like the jingle anyway Just so but as I listened to him there was a little tidbit in there that I Maybe you caught it when it came around, but I don't remember it, but it seemed as though well play the clip and then we'll talk about the tidbit and After he left the CIA and it was reported in the media that he said that from the very first moment He believed this was a terrorist attack

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Benghazi Investigation, Peter King, David Petraeus

Representative Peter King discusses discrepancies in the Benghazi investigation, specifically regarding whether the attack was recognized as terrorism from the start. The narrative explores the role of Mike Morrell in altering talking points and the potential ousting of David Petraeus due to his refusal to follow the White House narrative.

benghazi· peter king· david petraeus· cia· mike morrell

01:40 So which one's the third one third one? That's what I thought. Okay. Third one is it good? Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. That is our new slogan, isn't it? I thought that was in the in the previous meeting. I think it's usable. Ah Anything happen? No, not really. It was a I think a lot of these things have been dragging on. I did get a funny little thing though on the Benghazi deal I didn't pick up on until I was listening. In fact again, I was just, I was gonna make this a drunk or not drunk clip. Okay.

02:21 But I started as if it's a Peter King. Oh, yeah, and I couldn't tell if he's I Concluded that when you watched him he looked drunk, but when you listen to him like the jingle anyway Just so but as I listened to him there was a little tidbit in there that I Maybe you caught it when it came around, but I don't remember it, but it seemed as though well play the clip and then we'll talk about the tidbit and After he left the CIA and it was reported in the media that he said that from the very first moment He believed this was a terrorist attack

02:59 And obviously we know what the State Department people on the ground said that it was a terrorist attack. I believe that there was a narrative put out by the White House early on which has worked its way in from the start because Petraeus himself said later on he thought it was terrorists from the start. We know from the testimony of the people on the ground that they thought it was terrorists. We know that Ambassador Stevens thought it was a terrorist attack. So again, I think this raises questions about the CIA, and also you have Mike Morrell making these changes, apparently over the objections of David Petraeus, who's the director. So how does Morrell, the number two guy, get to make the changes when the director thinks that these changes should not be made?

03:36 There does seem to be some discrepancy there, but it also seems, I mean to ask you the question, are we ever going to find out who put those words in spontaneously inspired by protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo? Because of course by this trail it appears that that is what the CIA was done with and handed over for conversation. So it appears to back up the White House's assertion that that came from the CIA. I did see this and when he said, when Peter King talked about the number two guy overruling David Petraeus, I thought that there was gonna... smoke was gonna come out of Bernadette's ears for a moment there. She was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. In fact, she was probably getting instructions. That's why it took her a while to respond. Could be.

04:17 She definitely never even wanted to talk about it. No. But it seems to me, for one thing, it's kind of coincidental that this guy, the number two guy who ended up taking over for a little short time, was on board with whatever the program was. Yeah. Petraeus was not. And Petraeus, then next thing you know, he's ousted. Yeah, gee. We've almost forgotten about that. So Patrice is actually the honest man here for all we know. Oh, I think he is. There's a lot going on. Well, I mean honest. As honest as you can get. Whenever he's relative. When you have a 35 motorcycle motorcade, you know, and you got bitches everywhere. I mean, yeah, it's like within reason of what it is. Because all these guys are insane. They're all just out of control, completely whack jobs.

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

IRS Targeting Scandal, Tea Party Non-profits, Stephen T. Miller

The Internal Revenue Service faces scrutiny for targeting Tea Party and conservative non-profit groups for extra questioning. Acting Commissioner Stephen T. Miller resigned following the revelation, though the departure coincided with his planned retirement. The discussion posits that the scandal may be a setup to implicate Republicans who wanted to suppress the Ron Paul movement.

irs· tea party· stephen t. miller· non-profits· bolo list

05:04 And so many guys have retired from the from the armed forces, you know, we've been tracking this generals major generals Retiring without a huge party. It's not done in in the regular world. You know, it's like they're supposed to be flyovers, you know f-16s Mm-hmm 3,000 gun salutes and the other like I'm just retiring to see you later. Good. Bye. Yeah, I'm out of here But this is related I believe And you can put this in the book. This IRS gate thing, this is a setup. This is a setup of massive magnitude and the majority of Republicans are walking right into the trap.

05:48 So this, for those of you who haven't been following, turns out, gee, who figured the Internal Revenue Service, the tax collection and enforcement arm of the United States of Gitmo Nation government, Has been targeting groups and of course this is nothing new This has been this goes on every country I mean I've had it happen to me everywhere that I've lived in in the UK but particularly the Netherlands where was used to shut me up there because I was a pain in the ass to the aviation community to the established aviation community and

06:27 It gets used everywhere. This is nothing new. And I will remind you that in 2010, the Internal Revenue Service decided that their agents needed to have Remington shotguns. So they're armed. These guys are very, very armed and they can cause a lot of trouble to your life. I am not afraid of any organization the United States except for the IRS because they have so much power they can freeze your bank accounts they can walk right into your home essentially they can do whatever they want this is you know they're the collection arm of the mob of the organized mob and for this you know so it's this this singling out of tea party nonprofits and for extraneous

07:18 questioning and making the process very difficult which I'm not against by the way I think we have a culture of nonprofits in this country which is out of control it has to stop everyone's got a freaking nonprofit I'm starting one yeah no but you can because you know then you're starting one only way to go everybody in Austin I will say there's a lot of it's like hey it was a miss Mickey and I went to a thing yesterday a local art gallery, but really cool and she knows the guy very well. And so we're talking and the guy introduces himself to us and we got introduced to him. He's like, yeah, I know I put on shows and it's a non-profit for Austin Game and Wildlife.

08:02 You know, I was like, and so of course the next question is, you know, give me some of your art so we can display it for a good cause. And I'm sick and tired of this crap. I'm sick and tired of all these nonprofits because it's all one or two person companies who don't want to pay tax, who wind up producing events for big companies. Am I right or right? This is what it is. That's why I want to start one. It's an insult. I don't understand what your problem is. Let me move on to the real issue. So this is not an unknown thing that this has been going on since 2010 probably, 2011. This is known. This has been brought to the attention of members of Congress. All of a sudden now we have some very interesting events. We have on Friday a conference call that takes place where the IRS decides it's a good idea to admit to this.

09:00 Okay, so hold on please stop for one moment this lowest and her name forget her last name She decides it's a great idea to say oh by the way We really apologize for doing this now. You don't know I don't care certainly the IRS. You just don't do this You don't say to journalists ah gee I'm really sorry we did something highly illegal potentially illegal and we're sorry and And then we have this whole brouhaha, the president's like, whoa, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. I'm angry, I'm outraged. And then we make the guy who was set to retire in June anyway, the acting commissioner. He's not like a confirmed dude. The acting commissioner of the IRS, who wrote a letter to his IRS employees

09:48 saying, gee, you know, my term's coming to an end. Sorry, I gotta go, but nice working with you. It's tough times for the IRS. The president Says, oh I asked for his resignation and he gave it to me. The guy, oh he's resigned, his term ended. This is like... My favorite, have you seen pictures of this guy? Yeah, oh yeah. He looks like a character. Oh yeah, he's a... And you can't find, he's not even in the book of knowledge. No, no, he's just like, hey, I did my job. That's right, Stephen T. Miller is his name. You can't find the guy. You go to the IRS wiki page, everyone has an entry except for this guy, page not found. He's been in the IRS, coincidentally at the harassment department. Anyway, let me tell you what's going on here.

10:35 So, Benghazi is the real true only scandal that is taking place. And we know why, because it was a setup. The setup was to have the ambassador kidnapped and for the president to command the troops and all the resources of the United States and save him in time for the elections. And it was going to be kind of his throwback to the Carter. to the Carter days and fix everything and make it all great. And we had the Argo movie. Everything was planned perfectly, but then and I'm still convinced Ambassador Stevens knew about this and something goes horribly wrong. I think that someone didn't clue in the CIA guys who were there, which may be why Petraeus had to go or maybe why he was overruled because the CIA guys were fighting back at this CIA place. It was not a consulate. It was a CIA annex.

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Benghazi Kidnapping Theory, Republican Complicity

A theory is presented suggesting the Benghazi attack was a botched kidnapping plot intended to boost the President's re-election. Furthermore, the IRS scandal is framed as a Republican-led effort to dismantle the grassroots Tea Party movement in favor of establishment-controlled entities like the Tea Party Express.

benghazi· ambassador stevens· ron paul· tea party express· gop

09:48 saying, gee, you know, my term's coming to an end. Sorry, I gotta go, but nice working with you. It's tough times for the IRS. The president Says, oh I asked for his resignation and he gave it to me. The guy, oh he's resigned, his term ended. This is like... My favorite, have you seen pictures of this guy? Yeah, oh yeah. He looks like a character. Oh yeah, he's a... And you can't find, he's not even in the book of knowledge. No, no, he's just like, hey, I did my job. That's right, Stephen T. Miller is his name. You can't find the guy. You go to the IRS wiki page, everyone has an entry except for this guy, page not found. He's been in the IRS, coincidentally at the harassment department. Anyway, let me tell you what's going on here.

10:35 So, Benghazi is the real true only scandal that is taking place. And we know why, because it was a setup. The setup was to have the ambassador kidnapped and for the president to command the troops and all the resources of the United States and save him in time for the elections. And it was going to be kind of his throwback to the Carter. to the Carter days and fix everything and make it all great. And we had the Argo movie. Everything was planned perfectly, but then and I'm still convinced Ambassador Stevens knew about this and something goes horribly wrong. I think that someone didn't clue in the CIA guys who were there, which may be why Petraeus had to go or maybe why he was overruled because the CIA guys were fighting back at this CIA place. It was not a consulate. It was a CIA annex.

11:27 So this is the real scandal, and the reason why this IRS thing is now pushed to the front is because what will come out, and it's Max Baucus I will point out who will be running the investigation, Democrat, Democrat Senator. It will come out that the Republicans were doing this because the true grand old party the Republicans They're the ones that needed to Hijack the tea party movement. We recognize this almost from the get-go where? when the tea party first started splintering because the original tea party was wrong all of our nights were original tea partiers

12:07 and this thing was going off the rails real fast with these some of these politicos getting involved in fact running some candidates up in the in the New England area and losing and then you then you had these commercial operations like Tea Party Express is one of them there's a couple others. It just looked like the whole thing was co-opted and it was. It was originally kind of a, it wasn't even a drinking club. It was Ron Paul's Boston Tea Party. That's how it started. And everything was about Ron Paul. And then the Republicans had to stop that and nip that in the bud. So you'll notice they didn't stop the Tea Party Express.

12:48 They went at the Republicans in Congress. I guarantee you this is going to come out This will be the death knell for the 2014 elections and it's going to come out slowly. This is why you see ISA knows he knows I'm sure he may be complicit and he's trying to back off a little bit he's trying he's continuously trying to steer towards anything but the IRS gate if you will and It's going to come out that it was Republicans in Congress who suggested or asked the IRS to create this BOLO list, which I love the name, BOLO, the Be on the Lookout, the BOLO list for words like patriot, make the country better, for the true Americans who really care. This is what's so disgusting about the whole thing is that

13:38 Regardless of whether you think it was the Democrats, the President, and I'm convinced it was the Republicans themselves, these guys, they're elitist a-holes themselves, and they wanted to stop any true patriotic movement, true patriotic movement, and they're the ones that went after all of these small groups, which you'll see are two- and three-man non-profit shops who really, really thought they were part of something trying to change the process in the previous two elections, but certainly the previous election, and they will burn for it. They will burn for it. This is not

14:15 The White House, of course the White House is always involved in crap like that, but this is a setup from this president who all of a sudden is like, oh we got to get to the bottom of it. Oh yeah, well you bet we're going to get to the bottom of it and you'll see it's the Republicans. That's a good one. I'm convinced. And I agree with the basic thesis because the Republicans do not like these Tea Party-ers. they because they're used as a straw man by the Democrats too as like oh look at these guys are racist and all Republicans are racist I mean it just doesn't fit into the scheme of exactly exactly and it never has and right from the beginning when it was a Ron Paul movement and then you'd go to see watch the CPAC meeting and they have a straw poll who they think should be president always Ron Paul yep every time except this last time gee

15:02 And so every time Ron Paul was, so Ron Paul had, he was like messing up the place by being, you know, talking about the 10th amendment and about, you know, about various, constitutional ideas. By the way, play the Rachel Maddow thing. She is part of, you know, she's fitting right into this thing. She had taken a look and and and Lawrence O'Donnell is also another one who's got some. John, I'm convinced if they don't already know, they're going to know. and they're going to be let into the game. They have to be. They're going to be let into the game. They're the ones that go to the special meetings. Yes, and you put it in the book. I know I sound crazy. I'm the guy who called the Pope and all this stuff. So I know I sound crazy. You might want to slip it in the book because this will come out... I got it in there and I got your initials.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Rachel Maddow, IRS Criteria Commentary

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow is criticized for her framing of the IRS targeting criteria. The commentary highlights that while she described the criteria as ideologically neutral, she omitted the part of the sentence regarding groups that educate the public about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

rachel maddow· msnbc· irs· constitution· bill of rights

15:58 My monogram? My monogram? You'll see next year's predictions. Here's Matt Owens. And this we learned today was the new criteria they started using as of January of last year. I'm going to put it up on the screen so you can see it for yourself in terms of the actual language that we've got about it. This is being widely described today in the reporting on this scandal as being a set of criteria that obviously still targeted conservatives.

16:37 I don't actually read it that way at all. I mean, if you're going after groups that are talking about either limiting or expanding government, it kind of seems to me that is ideologically neutral and therefore proper. Okay, so she says limiting or expanding. She doesn't, she has the thing up on the screen. She doesn't read the next clause in the sentence. Oh. Which says, and educate the public about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Exactly. Which is totally what everybody's against. Yeah, we don't want that. We can't have that happening. Are you insane? We can't have people understanding what their rights are. No, no, no, no, no. We'll have none of that. No, we can't have any of that. That would be a huge mistake. So I'm watching this, listening to her and going, what does anybody buy into this crap of this woman? Yes, no. Oh, God, John.

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Julian Bond, Taliban Wing Comparison

Former NAACP Chairman Julian Bond refers to the Tea Party as the "Taliban wing" of American politics during a media appearance. Bond defends his comments as truthful, despite the harsh comparison to the extremist group.

julian bond· naacp· tea party· taliban· georgia

17:35 We don't have a dinner party. We do have a dinner party coming up I think the 26th at the the brain surgeons out the brain surge the brain professors house It'll be it'll be phenomenal to hear it. I mean and you've gotten and the whole thing is just I got a clip from this is pretty funny Julian Bond, he's the chairman of the NAACP? He's been involved in all this. He used to be the mayor of Atlanta. He's a very famous politician from Georgia. Oh, he is a politician though? Oh yeah. Okay, here's what he had to say about the Tea Party. Chairman Bond, what do you think that the fallout will be for the Obama administration, especially during a time where

18:19 The Tea Party had maybe lost a little air. Do you think that this is going to help inflate that, especially as we ramp up to the midterms for 2014? I hope not. I hope they don't get any more air. You know, they are the Taliban wing of American politics. We all ought to be a little worried about them. So do you think that's a little harsh, calling them the Taliban wing of American politics? Not at all. Not at all. The truth may hurt, but it's the truth. That's right. That's great. That to me is like that. Now there's a dude. Yeah, they're blowing stuff up. He does not give a crap. Suicide bomber department. He does not give a crap. That guy. Yeah. No, that's the truth hurts, man. They're the Taliban. The truth hurts of the Taliban. Fabulous. Absolutely. Do you think you're being over the top here? No, not at all. Right on target. Nailed it.

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

PayPal Donation Reviews, Compliance Messages

Listeners reporting to the show note that PayPal is flagging donations with messages stating they are being reviewed for regulatory compliance. There is speculation that the term "donation" is triggering automated flags or that the show is being targeted due to the broader IRS investigation into non-profits.

paypal· donations· compliance· irs· regulations

19:16 Hey, what's with the... This happened again. Since everyone's under investigation these days, what's with the weird PayPal messages that are popping up when people... donate to the show. I don't know. So I got another, did you see the email this morning? Yeah there's another one that came in. So people donate to the show and then it says, they get a message which says your donation is being reviewed for compliance with regulations. Could take 24 to 72 hours. Well I mean what you'd think of normally with the PayPal is that they're just doing something to hold on to the money so they can collect some interest.

19:54 But I think this has something to do with this IRS investigation. It has to. Well, I think, isn't the word donation like a big flag now? Is that a problem? Even though of course we pay taxes, we're not a non-profit. Because it's called a donation, is that an issue? I think we have to change the... well, they don't have any buttons for contributions. It's just donation. Yeah, they have a donate button, a subscribe button, and that's about it. a pay button I think we could change the buttons to pay or something like that. We don't use the buttons of course, we use email links. Right, but the PayPal system calls it a donation so it doesn't matter what your button is called. Right, and I've been told by the guys who are there that know about what we're doing, oh don't worry about it. They keep saying that to me. Don't worry about it. We know what you're up to. It's fine. It's fine.

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Personal Tax Audit Histories, FICO Scores

Personal anecdotes regarding IRS audits and bank account freezes are shared, including a $187,000 tax lien resulting from time spent living abroad. The discussion covers the long-term impact of these liens on FICO credit scores and the strategy of using audit insurance through services like TurboTax.

irs· audits· tax liens· fico score· turbotax

20:48 Yeah, when a pilot says watch this it's kind of the same thing. I'm telling you we're getting audited. For sure. I've been audited so many times it's funny at this point. My wife does a job on the day she does she puts like She had the way our books are done is she's got post-it notes and paper clips and all kinds of just I know tons of excess information that you know that she's always ready for it right now we can prove that and then the key to success with again audited is actually even though it's a little you know you lose some money in the deal never do your never

21:41 meet the real requirement. Don't actually do your taxes with all the deductions you really have coming to you. No, that would be wrong. You can't be on the money. You gotta always let something slide because you get screwed. So then when they audit you, they find those things and you get money. And so they say, oh, you paid too much taxes. Then they have to write you a check. And the guy who did the audit, I honestly, to God believe, he gets chewed out. That could be. I think they are you know they think that they're gonna lose money on an audit they're not auditing right well that's what you do you keep yourself on the other side of the fence yeah I I used to be in the system which I think was I was just stupid doing it you know with tax lawyers and accountants and everything and now of course we have a very you know we don't have a car I never had a really complicated

22:31 We I want to have a lot of money. It was made complicated for me by other people. Oh We got to take care. I didn't take all your deductions. No, not only Whatever, you know and no of course not but my tax attorneys and accountants everyone they got totally paid for everything and turns out later They they didn't do some things would screwed me over royally. However now I just do it with TurboTax and You know, the thing that Timothy Geithner, our previous Treasury Secretary, couldn't figure out. And then you, and I think that's, is that now owned by H&R Block? I have no idea. No, Intuit, yeah. And then you file electronically, and then for an extra like 20 bucks, you get audit insurance. So if you get audited, then they will send a guy to your house, and they'll have some slavelet for some intern who will come, at least you get an intern, who'll come over and can, you know, can help you out. But it's real simple. You know, we don't have a very complicated structure. Do they help you out with your taxes too?

23:33 No, no, no, never my sorry. I'm sorry. I was thinking something else going. Oh Very funny But I have I've gotten in really serious trouble I've been three times in my life. I've had my bank accounts frozen and it's and by the way, I've always gotten You know acquitted if you will So first time in Jersey how that was in the 90 maybe I was like 91 or something. I And all of a sudden my bank card didn't work. And I go in and say, wow, that's really weird. All your money has been transferred to this weird account with all these nines. Like, well, what is that? And it turns out IRS account. And then I call the IRS and like, you know, you had to fill out a... I don't remember what it was, but there was some form I hadn't filled out and so sent him. And I said, yeah, but you know, you took my money. He said, yeah, we got your attention, didn't we?

24:26 Yeah, they always have. That sounds right. Yeah, yeah. So that's... Bored bureaucrats. And then in the Netherlands, you know, I had this whole helicopter thing. You're just a troublemaker there. I am a... no, a big mouth. You get a big mouth and then, you know, they... and they froze all my accounts, put... seized houses, cars, everything. And I was... the only lucky thing is that it was against me And my ex-wife at the time had a bank account in her own name so we had money, we could actually get money from the ATM. And it took like a year. And then when finally they had to admit that they were wrong, that of course was not front page news.

25:16 And then in the United States, and this was what really screwed me forever. So apparently they couldn't find any filings on me for the 10 years that I lived abroad. And I think we've told the story before, they came into the office at Mevio at San Francisco, because all of a sudden I started showing up on payroll with their hands on their guns looking for me. And they garnished my wage, which basically meant I got no paycheck. and they put a hundred and I think I had a hundred eighty thousand dollar tax lien on me which of course after

25:53 It was another eight or nine months and I was living in London still at the time and commuting so it was a real problem I finally got that lifted but that stays on your record you see so whenever someone goes and looks at my By the way, it's FICO my FICO score not FICA, but FICO. We said that incorrectly on the previous episode if you go look at my credit report, you'll see Tax lien, $187,000. Oh, that probably gives you big numbers. It gives me... shit is what it gives me. But it won't... and I said, hey, this was... I didn't even... I didn't pay it. Didn't have to pay it. It was removed after I said, okay, everything's all right. But that stays on there until... it'll be there until 2017.

26:40 And that's crazy. This is the problem that we have right now. These secret, these are dossiers. They're full of crap. The information is no good. Yep. And it says, you know, because it has like a little asterisk and explanation and they'll say, has the lien has been removed or paid or satisfied? You know, because of course they don't have any information, which makes it look like you had this huge tax problem. Yeah. And then you had to pay off probably with with drug money yeah exactly from my with Bitcoin exactly so I guess Bitcoin as a segue yes Bitcoin is I guess under attack by the government yeah and interesting yeah finally finally interesting that the price of Bitcoin is going up I don't see that what the rationale for this I don't either

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Bitcoin Market, Mt. Gox Exchange

The price of Bitcoin and the dominance of the Mt. Gox exchange are briefly addressed. The exchange, based in Japan, is noted as a primary driver of market pricing for the cryptocurrency.

bitcoin· mt. gox· cryptocurrency· exchange· japan

27:38 Now I know there was a strategy a while ago that was going to be, oh, you know, because this is a Japanese firm. It's not Bitcoin, it's the major exchange Mt. Gox. Mt. Gox is, yeah, who apparently is the only exchange. They're the ones who set the prices. It's probably just set by some guy in the morning. I think it should be $120 today. It's not the only exchange. Don't send emails, please. It's not the only one. John at Dvorak.org. You know, I'm sick and tired of getting... Please, if you have an issue with donations, with your ring, John at Dvorak.org. Not to me. I'm sick and tired of it. I take care of all the other bull crap. I'll tell you right now, anyone who has a problem with me right now, send a message to AdamAtCray.com. He's the only one with any influence over what I do. This is true.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Queen Elizabeth II, State Opening of Parliament

Queen Elizabeth II's 60th anniversary State Opening of Parliament is reviewed, with a focus on the ceremonial aspects and the Queen's speech. The segment critiques the quality of the royal salute trumpeters, comparing the performance unfavorably to the theme of the old television show Ivanhoe.

queen elizabeth ii· parliament· house of lords· westminster· ivanhoe

28:31 Thanks, thanks buddy. Now you're talking about the the royalty that you were always hounding in the Netherlands. Yeah. So I'm watching on I guess it was I think was on yeah was on C-SPAN the Queen opens Parliament every year and this is her 60th anniversary. She opens the Parliament, she walks in, she goes into the House of Lords and everybody crowds in from the House of Commons into the House of Lords and they all listen to her read of what her government's going to do this year as if it all is going to pass. And it goes on and on and she comes wandering out. She runs the show.

29:14 Yeah, I know this actually shows that she runs the show the way she does it. She has a laundry list of things she wants to accomplish and she expects Parliament to do this. And everyone still says, oh that's just ceremonial. Dream on, slave! If you listen to what she says, it's anything but ceremonial. These are detailed things that she's commanding them to do. Thanks to the Majesty and says goodbye. No wait, stop the clip. Sorry. I gotta set this clip up. So anyway, this goes on and on and then she leaves. Now, she leaves and this clip is her leaving and she's getting in this horse carriage which is like, can you guys modernize this? Which is made of gold, I might point out. It's a big gold carriage. Gold and diamonds. But there's a guy shouting.

30:02 orders and he sounds like an idiot and then they play this and this this these horns that that tell the locals that the Queen is leaving the Westminster and I'm listening to this thing. It's Westminster not minister. Whatever. Yeah it is Minster I know. I don't know why, it's just one of those little things I keep saying. Anyway, so she leaves and this is like, is she tone deaf? Does she hear what they're playing? Just play this out completely and tell me that there's something wrong with this picture. Thanks to the majesty and says goodbye.

31:18 So the royal salute has sounded. Telling the world that the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are ready to leave the Palace of Westminster. That guy needs some lessons. Did you hear that? Yeah. I mean it sounds like a kid, like a ten year old. It actually, it reminded me when I was listening to it, it reminded me of a very old television show. See if you recognise it. Have you ever seen this have you ever seen Ivanhoe? I think so yes. This used to be on when I was a kid. They should have gotten the horn guy from Ivanhoe. It would have been better. Instead of this off-key thing. And it was the salute to the Queen. It's like you know what kind of a salute is this? Speaking of salutes.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Bra Usage, Saggy Breast Prevention

A producer's wife reports positive results after following a previous recommendation to stop wearing a bra to maintain breast firmness. The anecdote serves as a lighthearted follow-up to a past health-related discussion.

bras· health· anatomy· producer feedback· mickey

32:18 Miss Mickey received an email from one of our female, well actually one of our producers here in Austin and his wife is obviously a producer and he was thanking you indirectly so here's how this goes. Mickey is like, oh Adam come here and she's in the living room and I'm in the studio of course. Where I always am working and I was it was I thought something's on TV. She's ah, let me read this email I'm not gonna say who it was just because I you know, I don't know if I was supposed to tell you She's you know, the producer is very very happy about John's recommendation that if women don't want to get saggy boobs They should not wear a bra because she has stopped wearing a bra and he was very happy that her not only

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Angelina Jolie, Preventive Mastectomy, Affordable Care Act

Angelina Jolie's announcement of a preventive double mastectomy due to the BRCA1 gene mutation is analyzed as a potential PR move for the genetic testing industry. The discussion links the timing of her New York Times op-ed to provisions in the Affordable Care Act that cover such procedures and genetic sequencing.

angelina jolie· mastectomy· brca1· affordable care act· genetic testing

33:07 Was she going to maintain her pert and perky boobs? But she wasn't wearing a bra so congratulations on that So Angelina Jolie This is a very interesting to me. Could you look up the definition of mastectomy? me by the way my wife is you know who you notice is on Facebook a lot yeah I have barely in a huge rumble oh really with the women that are a Facebook fracas to Fraser Facebook fracas well let so I've spoken to a number of women and who came to me unsolicited because of course I am NOT properly equipped to really have this conversation

34:00 By the way, the definition of the word mastectomy is the surgical removal of one or both breasts partially or completely. This is not entirely what Angelina Jolie had done. And here at 100% of the women who I will say are NOAA general listeners who approached me in person, email or otherwise about this said, Yeah, she got a boob job and this is how she's playing it. Yeah now It's very you gotta be very careful with you know, the cancer the cancer card Cuz oh, you know, it's like just you can you get a geeky? Oh, okay. Oh the cancer, but my mom died of cancer one of my dear friends died in 1999 of breast cancer No, I breast can't cancers everywhere. I

34:58 And I have my own thoughts about where it comes from and what the cancer industry is doing about it. But this, besides the fact that there was no reason for this to be published at this moment in time, and oh by the way, she's also on the cover of Time Magazine which comes out Friday, which is wow, really? This op-ed in the New York Times, I mean it's almost, if I'm cynical, which gee, I am, And the White House is seeing all this crap coming down and then, hey, what are we gonna do? I mean... And Clooney goes, dude, I got nothing. I got nothing. Call Angelina. That's the only thing I can think of that this had to happen right now. If she truly wanted to bring some awareness, this is the worst possible time.

36:03 To do it, because you have no coverage in the news really in the right light and you're going to get snowed under. It's there briefly. I will say it worked perfectly because boy did the news cycle change for a couple hours there. Oh my god, Hensley and Jolie had their tits cut off, but she didn't. She has, they've been remade. And she has by her own admission and it's crazy, you know, the doctor who did this has blogged all over his his his web his blog about this. She had it done at the what is it? Here it is the patient's journey. I mean, the whole thing is is everywhere.

36:51 And there's a number of things that we really need to discuss when it comes to this. So one, every news story that I have seen is very quick to point out that this will be covered under the forthcoming Affordable Care Act provisions in 2014. So not only will the test be covered, which apparently in the United States at least is a very expensive test, but the procedure. And so as I'm following the news, I see a bill proposal which comes through the wire yesterday.

37:27 A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to raise awareness of and to educate breast cancer patients anticipating surgery, especially patients who are members of racial and ethnic minority groups, regarding the availability and coverage of breast reconstruction, prosthesis, and other options. So there's a push for this somewhere and I'm cynical about this. I'm really, really cynical. Well you don't think the push is for what's being talked about in my household? Please, because this is what... yeah, tell me. and elsewhere are these genetic testing. So you go and get your gene known, whatever they do. They pull out your genes and tell you all the possible bad things that can happen to you and that you're related to some bum in England. You're pre-everything. Basically you're pre-dead.

38:20 You're pretty dead and they have and everyone is getting these testing done and I think this is bringing more bringing it to light and Showing that the famous Angelina Jolie had it done and then she of course will show up in a movie in 2014 so next movie yep You know looking great beautiful breasts with no harm. No foul no wonder Brad Pitt who was so supportive I mean she had a couple kids I know I sound like an asshole to some women, but seriously. You sound like an asshole anyway. Some people, we both do, and I think a lot of people do. Hey, guess what? There you go. Someone's got to do it. I think it's all part of this scheme to get everybody gene sequenced. Yes. It's a huge movement to get gene sequences, how cool it is. My daughter's had it done. Really? My son's had it done. Really? Oh, they're insane. Really?

39:15 You haven't had it done. This is not nothing for you. No because people do say would you if there was a test would you said no and and you know and by the way that so she was tested for the BRCA1 BRCA2 gene I'm like, oh, let me look this up. Do you know what BRCA stands for? What? breast cancer Oh, I know it's I mean, but you expect to be like bio resistant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not BRCA breast cancer. So I mean, how does how does exactly how super creative? So, you know, they'll be like,

39:51 ANCR, you know, like anal cancer. Oh gee, now you've got anal cancer. Well, you might as well remove your butt. You might as well remove your butt. You have a new butt. But seriously, we have talked about that. We've noticed this coming. You're pre-cancerous, you're pre-diabetic. You know, now, that's funny. One of our doctors sent this to me. He said, you know, now they want to lower the legal alcohol limit to 0.5. Yeah. So zero. So why don't you just hand, hand up tickets for being pre drunk? Everybody's pre drunk. I mean, it's like you, you're, you are as a person, you're pre dead. You could walk out tomorrow. No, it's like, oh, well let's just not fly anymore because you could die.

40:38 And I mean I get hit by a bus and I fall down the stairs and this 80 a lot of opportunities and this 87% thing bugs me a lot. It's like because this genetic test is so good that they could say she had an 87 not 86 not 88 and an 87% chance of having breast cancer seems far-fetched right And these genetic tests, yeah, I've seen a lot of push on this. So I'm totally... So what is the argument Mimi is having that's interesting on Facebook? Well, she is upset by all these women who come out. She's so brave. She's a hero. And all the stuff that's on... All the Facebook stuff is just praising her to no end. And Mimi's argument is if she had an 87% chance of getting breast cancer, she could have a 13% chance of not getting. Why would you do this?

41:32 When all you have to do is test more and you just be a little more conscientious and you can probably, you know, why what's your don't have cancer? Why are you going to this extreme? She thought that was just a bad idea. I don't know that Mimi knows that it was really a boob job. Oh, it's a boob job. Yeah. If you look at so she did this at the Pink Lotus Breast Center. The Pink Lotus Breast Center is a is the place and the whole website is pink, which is a little disturbing. So she, her entire road... Kind of sexist. Her entire road, or entire journey is well documented here. Yeah, I know, it's publicity aspect to it. Another thing is annoying. But no, apparently all on Facebook, all the women are all, oh she's a brave, brave woman. You know, this is kind of like she's in World War II or something, taking out a Nazi, you know...

42:26 Tank or something, I mean, jeez. With a rubber knife and a compass. And a single grenade. But she, so she got to keep her nipples. Yeah, they did a special procedure that they apparently oversaturated her nipples with a bunch of blood or something and then, so the nipples were intact and still sensitive. Woot! No wonder Brad is so happy. and supportive. Hey, they're not of the same size, how about that? We're laughing about this, but I saw it blew me away. And you know, cause you, when you hear mastectomy. Yeah. You just think she's going to be flat chested and have, you know, just this horrible scars and the rest of it. And I know women who have had mastectomies in Austin here, you know, and, you know, and I'm sure that they would love nothing more than to have the Angelina version.

43:21 and get some beautiful boobs back, I'm sure they would love nothing more. It's totally too late or whatever. It's just like, this is a little... Anyway, so it appears that the genetic testing and the procedures will all be a part of the Affordable Care Act. And specifically, the people who can't afford the care will receive regulation that helps remind them that they can do this testing. What's it going to be? Do you get the procedure approved when you're 50%, 51% or maybe less? I mean, is it 30%? Will your insurance company say, oh yeah, chop them off, get some new ones?

44:04 I'm sure that there's a lot of women who will see the opportunity. Imagine if she didn't have cancer, but she got new boobs. Yeah, well, yeah, it's a sensitive subject. So I wouldn't get into the debate about it. No, I don't want to get too far into the debate. Well, I know, but you know, again, I do have a little clip here because I was I was reminding myself that one of the things about our podcast, we will talk about some of these issues that are actually in the public eye. They're important. They're changing the way people think. So I was having lunch with a friend and he says he's getting tired of some of the podcasts that are getting worse and worse. You got friends? Not ours. He loves ours. Wait, stop. You got friends? Yeah, I do. I have a friend. Oh.

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Podcast Quality Comparison, 5x5 Network

A brief clip from a podcast on the 5x5 network discussing X-Men mutants is played to contrast with the current show's content. The hosts critique the niche nature and production style of other digital broadcasts.

podcasts· 5x5 network· comic books· mutants· media criticism

44:49 So I have a clip which is, and I think it might be a regular clip that I'll do this every once in a while. This is what, just for the people listening to our podcast, this is what you're missing because there are other podcasts out there and you could be listening to this. You really, that's the best you can come up with? I've got teleportation but I can only go through doors. Now imagine an entire book built around a character like that because that's what they were basically doing by that point was, oh here's a character who looks like a chicken and has no other superpowers. Beak! Yes, Barnel Bohusk, yes I am.

45:25 I read the exiles, I read all the exiles. Well you see, you needed that many mutants because you had to populate the teams, right? Because there's... let's run it down. In the early 2000s they had like the extreme X-Men at some point. So we had the extreme X-Men, we got the X-Men, the uncanny X-Men, we got the X-Factor. Is this on the twit network? No, it's on the other one. What, 5x5? Yeah. Oh wow. I was... so I did something highly unusual. I went on a morning show here in Austin. Oh good, you know we both need to do that more. Yeah and you know what it actually it was good but not that it it helped I think we got new listeners but not necessarily because of the morning show so this is the Dudley and Bob show everybody in the morning to you weenie in the butt. Is this TV or radio? Radio, radio, radio yeah so Dale Dudley has been on KLDJ FM in Austin for 25 years

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Dudley and Bob Show, Career Destiny

A guest appearance on the Dudley and Bob morning radio show in Austin leads to a discussion about finding one's true calling. The narrative encourages listeners to pursue their passions over "slave jobs," despite the financial risks involved.

dale dudley· austin· radio· career advice· broadcasting

46:20 So he's kind of an institution, but they've done something interesting. This is owned by MS broadcasting, which is not, you know, your clear channel, but they own a lot. You know, they're pretty big, but in the scope of radio ownership, they're nothing. And Austin, of course, is a, you know, like a secondary market, but still. So they have done something where they go from six to nine on the air and then from nine to 10, they'd switch over and they do a podcast, which people pay for. And where you can say anything. So it was this really weird sensation of being on the radio in real time, live, and having to have all my filters in, because you know, you know me with the Tourettes.

47:02 And then switching over at nine o'clock and then it was like anything goes you could you know tell us talk about the management being crap at the station. Which I did of course. Yeah I don't know. I said can I. Makes no sense. Well and. You'll never listen to us. Well and well what they like is that the station's making money with people paying for the podcast. But what was most interesting is I received probably 20 emails from one thing that I said. And the thing that I said is, you can quit your slave job. You can find your true destiny in life. And I've done it several times and it's scary.

47:44 But I think that's kind of it was a little longer in the in you know in the conversation but that I am now at a place where yeah, we're just getting by but I have never been happier in my life because I'm doing what I want to do. I'm a radio dude. That's what I am. I'm not really a TV guy, I'm not a writer, I'm not really a programmer, I'm a broadcaster. That's what I am. And if you can find out what you are in life, wow, and you're doing it and you find out a way to at least eat some mac and cheese while you're at it,

48:24 That is true living. And I got so many emails from people saying, how do I do it? Just quit your job. Now that's not that simple obviously, but you know what I mean? I think most people can't do it. Yeah. I think a lot of people have the opportunity. There's a bunch of variables here. One is the kind of money you can make by working for somebody else who's throwing money away. Right. Right, but then you're focused on the wrong thing. If you were doing that, you know, it's like a it's like an owner of a baseball team. The team is worth a lot of money. They have a great net worth, but the amount of money they personally make from the team is not as much as they pay the players. Right. One or two players, or it's basketball. Some of these guys will make 20 million dollars just to run up and down the court and stay in shape. Right. You know, what else would they do?

49:15 Yeah, but they all wind up like OJ. They wind up in jail eventually and they lose all their money. Well a lot of them don't. There are some that are smart investors and they keep a low profile. Besides Magic Johnson. Now it usually ends bad. Yeah, a lot of them are broke. I mean the worst case is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who was one of the greatest players in history, the big tall guy from, came out of UCLA. He, I guess, got involved with one of those money making schemes where they put your money offshore and they invest it tax free, you don't have to worry about the government. You're just better off putting it in a bank. Wasn't it the Psychic Friends Network? With Dionne Warwick, didn't he put money into that?

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Personal Life Updates, College Scholarships

Updates on family life include a daughter receiving a scholarship to Yale University. The conversation shifts to television advertising, specifically criticizing the integration of Ford Focus commercials into the show Smash.

yale· scholarships· skull and bones· ford focus· smash

49:57 I don't know he might have all I know is that he essentially went broke. Aren't you doing what you want to do right now John? Are you in that place in your life where you're kind of doing you as as you move towards your twilight years? Hold on a second hold on wait wait wait this is this is serious talk so hold on people have been really busy for us Right now John, let's talk about how you can live your life to its fullest potential. As Miss Mickey said to me, this is our serious music, you like it? Ah, it's great. Yeah. As Miss Mickey said to me, you're not dead yet, you're only halfway there. Only half dead. Yeah, I'm dead. That part is in the bed. I'm pre-dead right now. So, I'm very happy where I'm at. How about you? Are you living the dream?

50:54 Yeah I'm living the dream 20 year old car. Yeah, just getting by I'm going broke sending my daughter through college. The good news is she will graduate Yeah, and think about all the actually she got she got her scholarship again. Oh wow so right sophomore She was down here. She went up to What's the name of the school again? It's like it's like the best college. I think we know what I'm sorry, okay? We don't but it's a great school. It's like a real high-end. It's a it's a good school. I guess it's where it's where I've been there a year I've never been to the campus just skull and bones like the skull and bones She's at Yale

51:38 I get a real short picture of you sending your kid to Yale Get in that skull and bones kid you'll be set for life So I go on with your you get the music is fading out. How long is this is this loop? Oh, I got tons of people I got like three different beds for us to talk over who feel that when we're talking about something important You know we need to have and so these guys sat on their synthesizer. Yes out these beds yes, I Isn't that awesome? This is a good one, I like it. This is great, this is a very kind of... Our show should just have the bed underneath the whole mansion. All the time, yeah, all the time, I agree. It really adds something here. It adds something. Not much, but it adds something. Anyway, I think that we could do a seminar. A webinar. Oh yeah! A webinar on how to live... A webinar is even better. Your favorite. We're going to leave our houses. Yes! This is part of the dream. And the whole idea is we're going to tell you how we did it, and then here, take that information.

52:37 It's always convoluted yeah, and I think we can probably get it sponsored by what's Leo's a advertiser there Or go to meeting oh go to me. Oh, yeah He's not Ford's not sponsoring him anymore. I as you forced John went someplace. I don't know what happened to Ford well they geez they they start advertising my favorite show smash and Which I still watch religiously. And it was great. They had Ivy Lynn, who plays Marilyn in the Broadway musical. Is that the blonde? The blonde one, the voluptuous blonde. They had her, so now she's a celebrity because she's on Broadway. So they have her at Times Square doing a commercial for the Ford Focus.

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Producer Credits, Donation Acknowledgments, Finland Meetup

The show acknowledges various executive and associate executive producers, encouraging them to list their titles on LinkedIn. A No Agenda meetup in Espoo, Finland, is announced for May 20th, and the "Value for Value" funding model is explained to the audience.

executive producers· linkedin· finland· espoo· donations

53:25 It's coming out of... I don't think she can even get in a Focus. No, please. And so there's the scene, which of course, before you hit another brake, is only eight minutes, and then the first spot is the Ford Focus again. It's unbelievable. It's corrupt. Yeah, it really is. In the morning to you, John C. DeVora. By the way, I do recommend... The Ford Focus, as Ford's listening, I do recommend that car to everyone I talk to. Anyway, yes in the morning to you and oh and in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air of subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there there you go and in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room there no agenda stream calm no agenda chat dotnet in the morning to sir 19 inch racks or get most slaves or oil everyone running the whole show make sure you support those guys at frown net and

54:25 Wow, we got all kinds of stuff to do here. I got like PR. Let me do the PR first. Sir Laurie and Sir Luke in Finland are... I'll read the email verbatim. We're getting together for a No Agenda Nights luncheon Monday, May 20th at noon in Kailaranta 1 Espoo. As in a spool ride. Yeah other nights producers are hereby invited as well Of course, I think there's one more night in the greater Helsinki metro area It's a hotbed of no agenda night activity up there So and I'll put the link into the to the place. So that's Monday the 20th Kyler on ta ke il r ke L kilo echo India Lima alpha Romeo alpha November tango alpha in a spool

55:19 And then, uh... let's see, what else did we have? Um, that's all I got. Do we have anyone helping us today on the show, despite all scary messages that, uh... that you receive now on the PayPal that you're under investigation, your donation is being looked at. It's kind of nefarious too. You think, oh wow, am I being investigated? Am I in compliance? I don't know what they could put it a different way. But we did get a complaint from some Mooniches about this. and I want to thank, we should thank our executive producers which includes Greg and his wife, Sir Greg actually. Sir Greg and Dame Kathy, yes. And Kathy, I think she sent a note in

56:05 bitching about this thing, we're just send a check from now on. Yeah, which we recommend, which gives us another 10 bucks. No PayPal fees, no nothing. And they came in with the episode number, which is great, which is not necessary to become an executive producer, but highly appreciated as the numbers go up. Yeah, and especially an exclusive member of that club. Anyway, they're in West Chicago, in the spirit of Benghazi, cover up surveillance of the AP's phone records and sticking the IRS to audit or seeking seeking seeking the IRS to audit Patriot groups I would like to taunt Mr. O with a Reverend Manning whoop him with the Constitution thank you sirs. I'm sorry I wasn't quite wasn't quite ready for that one whoop it with the Constitution

57:03 Thank you very much. I'm gonna give them karma actually. I think they deserve some karma from me to them. You've got karma. Sir Dan Gregg and Dame Kathy, thank you for being such long-term supporters. And of course they are from Chi-town. West Chi-town. So they must be sick and tired of that guy. Oh yeah. Dwayne Melanson, otherwise known as Earl Melanson of Oregon. Hell yeah. Tigard. He came in with 404, which is an error message. Here's my next installment toward Dukedom. I've gotten lots of notice from my producerships on LinkedIn. Telling you it's a great thing to do. Yeah, no, but if you've got a LinkedIn account, put your producerships in your bio. Yeah, people are always like, wow, what is that? That sounds cool.

57:48 had to organize them into seasons to overcome the character limitations. Oh, really? What is it? Because the bits are too expensive? But you can't go on forever with a, you know, although I've seen some of these that are huge. I think I don't know about this. I think he maybe needs to upgrade. Parker Snyder, Grand Prairie, Texas, 336.20. And you got some email, try to get rolling back prices quote out of John. Get the rolling back prices quote out of John. It was a quote that you said early on that really cracked his wife and him up where you said something like they're rolling back prices on crack. I never said this. Yes, you did. So say it again. They're rolling back prices on crack. That dramatic? Yeah, so that was pretty good. I like it. That was pretty good. So he and his wife liked that a lot and they've been fans of the show ever since you first said that. There you go. Yeah, well.

58:45 Anyways, I hope to get to a knighthood soon He does say everyone else feel ashamed. Yeah, everyone else feel ashamed. He's from Tejas grand prairie Stefan Gar who tea a gar tea a gar tea a gar tea in South how about steven? I'd say Steven a garrity You know a Stefan no no one says Stefan anymore some I've heard it now I'll get you a clip. Okay, you go do that record your one friend. It's 233 32. Itm don't worry about getting your chops around my name is just way too painful to listen to it the last time. But just listen to the episode with the Central Security Service or whatever it's called the great show didn't matter that it wasn't clip intense. Wow this is a long time ago this show. This is like

59:39 It's like two months ago. Your chat and interaction is every bit if not more enjoyable to listen to. I don't frequent the chat room but it strikes me that these douchebags should be paying a couple of bucks to get in and bitch slap each other. You could bank a grand a show. A thousand a year. Yeah. Surely it keeps the show going for all of us. Also if you put an IBAN number on your bank account somewhere on the donation page I think we could transfer money out of PayPal commission as well as set up repeat payments that will not get canceled. I think that's a real... if you want to transfer money to Mechanics, which is our bank from Europe, forget about it. Oh, it's too expensive. Yeah, it costs like 30 bucks. They're not good at that. And the Chase thing, which I've tried, it's not worth... it's just not... no wonder Bitcoin is popular.

1:00:31 It's really not worth it. It's not worth the hassle. It takes a week. This is dumb. Well, they need to streamline things, that's for sure. Daniel Serbas in Montevideo, Minnesota nuts. He came in and... I got a couple of notes from a couple of guys. No. Say yes. The president is in the Rose Garden and he's got an earpiece in. Oh he does? He's wearing an IFB? Nah, I mean he's- he's not an IFB, it's like half a Sennheiser.

1:01:12 What is that? Who is he with? He must be with someone. They must be doing a translation. Let's finish thanking these people, then we can talk about the President. Anyway, he sent a check in. I bet you $10,000 bucks it's pronounced Montevideo in Minnesota instead of Montevideo as it would be in South America. Yes. Jan Purseel. Sir Jan, do you in Hamburg... I would say Jan Purseel. Jan Purseel. Call it advertising just scored a well-paid job for my design studio per CL comm P E R S I E L comm and would like to share with the access and give value for value karma appreciated for busy times ahead take care right on here you go good good work on karma and also step Steven or Stefan as I would call him also requested some karma we didn't give him a no well I mean to that you've got karma

1:02:04 Those are executive and associate executive producers for show 513. We appreciate that hopefully and by the way the last couple of Sundays people have gotten executive producer shifts or just sending in the minimum with like $202 you might want to think about helping us because the Sunday show seems to be dropping off drastically. Compared to the way a Thursday show yeah, and it would be okay if the Thursday show made up for it But it's not really no generally speaking just falls off. No, I will you know figure out why someday Thank you very much to Nick the rat for creating the art for episode 4 1 5 1 2 that's highly appreciated good work Nick always good to see Nick come in with something humorous funny or something that makes you go hey

1:02:50 Because that's kind of what a lot of your reaction a lot of the art A lot of good art the art is is also inconsistent one time We'll have like 12 submissions, and then sometimes we'll have one. Yeah, it's true. We're done. Yeah, it's true We highly appreciate this. These are our real credits. You can put them on your LinkedIn. It will get you inquiries. You watch and this is the great thing about LinkedIn is you can see who's looking at your profile and what they're looking at and you'll see when you put you when you put executive producer no agenda show on you're gonna see that people know this is interesting. What is that? Now you may never work again.

1:03:28 But but you get a lot of ink they got a lot of increase for sure so yes, please consider us for Support on this coming Sunday show we'll have a lot more deconstruction a lot more head today We've got a lot to get to vorac org slash and and of course we do need you to always continue to propagate our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Good work girl

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Google I/O, Listener Criticism, Jon Stewart

The Google I/O conference is introduced alongside a critical listener email regarding a previous "Google rant." The hosts discuss the nature of audience relationships and the fatigue that comes from consuming high-conflict media like Jon Stewart or Howard Stern.

google i/o· listener email· jon stewart· howard stern· media fatigue

1:04:13 So, uh, I went to the Google I O on the TV on the TV. No, I mean I Streamed it over the internet. Oh, oh dear. I forgot all about it. I couldn't get in. I have a summary Here's a summary. Do I play this? Is this your summary? There's a summary of Google I O right here No agenda show like a kick to the crotch. Well, it's interesting you bring up the Google I O

1:04:56 because there's a I have some I have some actual clips that I think I think it would be prudent to discuss and this comes in light of an email I did I copy you on the reply to this I think I did don't know okay was that so as a subject quitting over Google rant oh yeah that guy well yeah we did a Google I think you got that he was aiming this at Complaining at you for some reason because of course I was the one writing about everything. No, it's always me I suck I'm an a-hole fault Yeah, hi Adam a few shows back a listener talked about getting to verge of donating only to be put off by your ignorance This is the good get let's stop right here. This is the

1:05:47 everybody out there is on the verge and all apparently they do they're never gonna donate they don't care they're ungenerous people they don't have a thought and how these things work they're not sympathetic to anything and they're always on the verge of donating and their whole job in life is to look for the excuse not to donate and then they just sit and wait, say oh god maybe I'll donate today, maybe I'll donate today, maybe I'll donate today, they never donate and then they get the excuse, ah that's the reason I didn't donate because of something you said. And that is really the real problem with their personality, this is a defect. I mean you're either generous and you're doing value for value, people who donate to the show are doing it for a reason. So the show continues. He's a pre-donor.

1:06:37 He's a pre-donor, he's a pre-boner. Permanent boner. A permanent boner. But this guy is not... I think he's donated. He's a pre-quitter. So he's been looking for a reason to quit. You see? This is the other thing. So you got people who don't want to donate and look for a reason not to. There's people who want to quit but look for a reason to quit. Listening to us or... I'm unsubscribing! It's my favorite. You know, the show has its... I, for example, we've talked about this before. I think the show beats some people up. Very hard, yes. And it's like the Jon Stewart show. I will watch that show and then I'll put it on the old DVR and make it so it records and records and records. And then after a few months of it, I am so beaten up.

1:07:26 by the show that I just take it off and I say, oh life is so much better. I don't have to listen to him, you know, do the disseminate. He's essentially doing character assassination in a funny kind of a way, commonly. And it's like, at some point you just can't, as funny as it is, it just gets, I don't know. Right, but this is why I think- It's a flaw in both of these shows, ours and his. It is the ultimate flaw, absolutely. And this is no different from the Howard Stern show, because I had witnessed this with Stern too. when I was driving in every single morning from Jersey to New York. At a certain point, it's like, oh, I get it. Lesbians ratings. Got it. You know, so yes, it happens. However, he brought something. The reason why he's quitting, he says, you know, you have we have no idea we're talking about.

1:08:14 I knew exactly what this person was talking about. Couldn't have written a better example than the recent farce with John's blog getting hacked. I could barely listen as you both flew off the handle, calling foul play, slamming Matt Cutts. It's not true people pay no attention to the browser warnings Google is out to get us it was a by the way we never slam Matt cut well you might I never really slam no cuts and what difference does it make well it is important because Jeff Jarvis really came about Jeff Jarvis who called Matt Jeff Jarvis Google shareholder who called Matt cuts the grand gentleman this is what this is why we went off the grand gentleman of Google

1:08:56 And I know why he's called that, because he is one of the most powerful men on the internet. And then so he goes on all this by the way before continuing to hypocritically use Google search engine for the rest of the show Yeah, okay. It's exactly this sort of paranoia narcissistic nonsense that turns people off the show I think it turns people on to the show actually I don't I disagree with that Yeah, actually a lot of people don't understand how broadcasting works okay, and sometimes the most obnoxious people just attract a crowd and So anyway, so he goes on all the way through, but okay, so he ends it up with, that's it for me, I'm out. And that's how he ends it. Now... It always gets me, by the way, why tell us? Who cares? I mean... Well, no, because the reason why is because he wants a response. He wants... he's been disappointed, of course, in himself, but I see this all the time.

1:09:55 Especially with email. I mean, I've made a study of this where people throw their baggage onto you and then nine times out of ten, sorry man, I was drunk. And I get that one a lot. I get a lot of the drunk. Yeah, I've seen that one. The drunk when I get a lot of that. Sorry, I blew up, man. Sorry, I was drunk, man. I lost my job, my wife hates me, my kids are morons. And then you're the guy who I listen to and I trust and you irked me. It happens in all relationships. And so we have a weird relationship with our producers of the show Of course now as a part of Google IO and I'm glad you brought it up Matt cuts and now Matt cuts is he is the Director of not director of malware not the director of protecting your computer. He's the director of web spam Okay

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Matt Cutts, Google Webmaster Tools, SEO Algorithms

Google's Matt Cutts discusses upcoming changes to SEO algorithms, including Penguin 2.0 and Panda updates. The hosts characterize Google's control over search and its "Webmaster Tools" as a way to force compliance with Google's business model under the guise of security.

matt cutts· seo· panda· penguin· webmaster tools

1:10:45 And what is web spam? Web spam is stuff that messes up Google's business model. Google's model is to provide you with ads, predominantly ads with search. So this is all about SEO. The specific, and this is, this is, and it's very important that we talk about this because Google is the Gestapo of the internet. And Matt Cutts is the Sturmbannfuehrer. And he even starts off at, he's, so he, as a part of Google I O, he talks about the new, their their new algorithm. So they had Panda, now they're going from Panda to Penguin to Penguin 2.0. These are all their code names. And of course, you know, hi everybody. Hi everybody. That's Matt Cush. Today's webmaster video is answering the question, what should we expect in the next few months in terms of SEO for Google? So very important, he says, what should we expect in terms of SEO for Google?

1:11:42 You're about to hear how Google really thinks about you and how they think about themselves. The hacked sites thing, right? Yes, someone was able to quote unquote hack your blog, not really your server, but they were able to inject some malware. You can call it malware, but not the kind of thing that you go to a website and it gets into your computer and it eats up your hard drive or crashes it or turns you into a bot on a botnet. No, it brought up a hidden frame

1:12:21 By the way this this producer this listener also says you know you could have find this in five minutes You stupid so the the what Google does is they found it in five minutes? What was being injected from somewhere? We couldn't find that right so we had to change the parameters of how things get onto the onto the code So that guy's that guy should never listen to the show that whoever sent that in so now Matt cuts Who fully says oh, we're just protecting everybody and and the way Google does this is and and by I wasn't in I didn't have any infected malware yet all my sites that had one link to an image from your site got the same little thief

1:13:03 Still you're walking away with a with a bag full of stolen ones and zeros or had his arm Creepily coming through your laptop screen touching your keys Which is these things really matter what they are communicating to people just like PayPal with their we're checking it out for regulatory compliance so here's Matt cuts and that what's really going on here is is pushing everyone towards Google's webmaster tools. This is a very, very, very bad precedent. And they are only doing it so that everyone is on board with their program.

1:13:39 for their advertising for their payday. We're still in the early days for that, but it's pretty exciting. We've got some data now that we're ready to start munging and see. Munging? They munged the data over there, John. Munging. See how good it looks, and so we'll see whether that bears fruit or not. Here, listen to this. We also continue to work on hacked sites. Hacked sites. And notice the language. Your site was not hacked. Okay, there was no no one had taken it over and put up you know a DHS sign or said John sucks cock in hell No, none of that not hacked like that In a couple different ways number one trying to detect them better we hope in the next few months to roll out a next generation of hack site detection that is even more comprehensive and

1:14:24 and also trying to communicate better to webmasters because sometimes they see we see confusion between hack sites and sites that serve up malware yeah you're creating that you're creating the confusion and ideally you'd have a one-stop shop where once someone realizes that they've been hacked they can go to webmaster tools and have some see one-stop shop John yeah in fact to get off of the yeah Yeah, to get off of the database. You got to go to... To get off of the database, that's right. I had to get an account with... Oh yeah, oh yeah. And then ask them to... Please, please. ...look at my site again after we fixed it. ...go and get a lot more info to sort of point them in the right way to helpfully clean up those hacked sites.

1:15:07 So, if you're doing high quality content... Oh, if you're doing... Now here's where... This is where it gets very, very dangerous. Not for me because I don't care. People who want to get my content, which is probably not considered high quality content in Google's opinion. They'll get to it anyway, but Google in future, as you're about to hear, is going to determine what is right, what is wrong, what is high quality, and what you should be able to see. Not what you find through their search engine. But what you're allowed to see, literally see on their Chrome browser and every other browser that uses their database, which of course is everybody including Firefox. The guy's wearing a Firefox t-shirt in this video just to show how powerful Google really is. Whenever you're doing SEO, this shouldn't be a big surprise. You shouldn't have to worry about a lot of different changes.

1:15:58 If you've been hanging out on a lot of black hat forums and trading, you know, different types of spamming package tips and that sort of stuff, then it might be a more eventful summer for you. You can have a very eventful summer if you've been trying to game our system, slaves. But we have also been working on a lot of ways to help regular webmasters. Regular webmasters, John? Do you hear what he's saying? Yeah. Regular webmasters. We're doing a better job of detecting when someone is sort of an authority in a specific space. Oh, an authority. You're doing a better job when you're an authority. But you have to sign up for webmaster tools to be an authority, I'm sure. You know, it could be medical, it could be travel, whatever. Yeah, what are we? Are we authorities in anything, John?

1:16:43 Not that I know of. Come on. Well, we're authorities on tech. Yeah. I think we can be authorities on political news deconstruction. Yeah. Put this in the red book. No agenda, the term no agenda to drop to zero within the next year. And trying to make sure that those rank a little more highly if you're some sort of authority or a site that according to the algorithms we think might be a little bit more appropriate for users. Oh, it's a little more appropriate for users. Do you hear what's going on here? We've also been looking at Panda and seeing if we can find some additional signals and we think we've got some to help refine things for the sites that are kind of in the border zone in the gray area a little bit.

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Search Rankings, Advertorial Guidelines, Anti-Competitive Behavior

The discussion focuses on Google's policy regarding "advertorials" and native advertising. Matt Cutts states that paid coverage should not pass PageRank, which the hosts argue is an anti-competitive move designed to protect Google's own advertising revenue.

search rankings· advertorials· pagerank· native advertising· anti-competitive

1:17:32 might be right I just typed in no agenda to the Google yeah and we still own first page completely uh-huh and let me take a look at page we had seven pages at one time we do have some people out there that work for us and with us yeah we have the second page is we got all of it no agenda entertainment no agenda soundboard no agenda oh the no agenda myth New York Times an article. That's in it. That's there it is. There it is. Nothing to do with us. But the whole the New York Times is clearly an authority in the space. You see, then we go to no agenda. Racing's on page two. Congratulations. No agenda. C.D. is on page two. So we got all of page two except one post now page three. No agenda on Facebook. No agenda. Art album. Art generator. No agenda. Chat. No agenda. Predicts Boston bombing.

1:18:20 the YouTube videos. Hey, wait a minute, we're experts in that. We're experts. No Agenda book club, No Agenda on Twitter, show of notes, chat. Let me finish this up. ...the effect a little bit for those sites that we believe have got some additional signals of quality, then that will help sites... Signals of quality. ...that might have previously been affected to some degree by Panda. All right, now. Very code words in there now. Oh well here So do you know about their guidelines their content guidelines and what you can and can't do this by the way? Why does Google have to do with this because it's their business because send me a link to the guidelines that I need this you can you can just Google that that now you're getting under my skin, okay? Well listen to the guidelines for advertorial

1:19:07 We've also been looking at advertorials, that is, Native advertising, native advertising. Like if we would like promote our own stuff for instance. So if I went on in the show notes and said, hey look at this cool gadget I'm working on. That would be native advertising or better known as an advertorial. And those sorts of things that violate our quality guidelines. So again, if someone pays for coverage or pays for an ad or something like that, those ads should not flow PageRank. Let me hear this. If someone pays for an ad, if someone pays me to put an ad on my site that of course doesn't go through Google, you don't get ranked for that. That's what he just said. So if... That's actually what he just said. This is anti-competitive. This is illegal in my book.

1:20:02 You can't, you know, Google does a lot of illegal stuff unknowingly. Because they are, it's hubris. It seems like a good idea to us. It's hubris is what it is. This guy is so, he truly believes that Google owns all advertising on the internet and luckily we don't have this problem but a lot of people are going to run into trouble right now because he just said to me If you are getting paid for an ad on your website, you will get penalized for that by Google. They play that again just so everyone gets it straight. Yeah. And if someone pays for coverage or pays for an ad or something like that, those ads should not flow PageRank. If someone pays for coverage, which is a journalistic term. So if, I'll make a very simple one, if Leo Laporte

1:20:56 is paid to talk about the Ford Focus, he will get penalized by Google for doing that because Google didn't get their piece. This is a... this is mafia. This is truly mafia. This is not okay. Now, again, I don't care. We don't have advertisers. We get by. But when we have a-holes who are yelling at me for saying that Google is the Gestapo and you've got to watch out, I'm not doing it for me. It doesn't affect me at all. People can find our content without us being approved or experts in the space. We've seen a few sites in the US and around the world that take money and then do link to websites and pass page rankings. Oh my god, it's called advertising! But that's not allowed. So we'll be looking at some efforts to sort of be a little bit stronger on our enforcement as far as advertorials that violate our quality guidelines. Come on, talk to me, John.

1:21:56 I'm just stunned by this quality guidelines thing. What does Google have to do with it? They're a search engine, they're supposed to be serving the public. They're not. Because I'm looking for something and if they, it could be filled with ads, but I'm looking for this page and they're not going to deliver it because the guys are taking money away from Google? That's right. Could someone please make the word Gestapo with the Google letters and logo for the art? That's what I want. But I also want it separate, just something I can just put on a t-shirt. You know, it's the Google logo with all the little pretty colors, but it says Gestapo instead of Google. Nothing wrong inherently with advertorials or native advertising, but they should not float page rank and there should be clear and conspicuous disclosure so that users realize that something is paid, not organic or editorial. The hubris of this is, and I think you're right,

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Larry Page, Google Maps, North Korea

Larry Page's appearance at Google I/O is noted for his comments on medical records and human happiness. Additionally, Google Maps announces the inclusion of North Korea in its "MapMaker" tool, reaching a milestone of 200 countries covered.

larry page· google maps· north korea· mapmaker· eric schmidt

1:22:50 He's probably a really nice guy. He doesn't even know how inherently horrible the things are that he's saying. You know, I don't have the clips of... I do have the recording, but I didn't clip any of... Larry Page came out at the end of the Google thing and talked and talked and talked. Unfortunately, something's wrong with him. He talks like this now and he can barely get his voice up. He can't get any high notes. From the chip implant, obviously. And he seemed, and the one clip I wanted to get, and I will have it for the Sunday show, is where he says, all we want people to do is to be happy. Yeah, well how's that working out? And he said it over and over with remorse. And I believe that these are just dorks that are just unaware of the way things, why they're, in fact he went on about how cool it would be if

1:23:46 He says he went on about how terrible the situation is because his medical records are protected and he believes that is only because of insurance companies because people are afraid they're not going to get insurance. That doesn't make any sense. They should everyone should be able to get insurance and we should be able to get everyone's medical records so we can study them and we can do we can search and we can do these things that will be beneficial to everybody which is not the case at all. It's bullcrap. Some people don't want their medical records out because they have AIDS for example and nobody knows their gay and they don't want anyone to know they're gay and it's their business not yours and all this is completely ignored by these guys are completely naive about the way things are I think Schmidt probably isn't but he's never really there he's not run in the place he's you know about selling his book everywhere and I don't know I just baffling I do have a couple of Google clips if you want to hear them yeah unless you've got more to listen to with the

1:24:37 Well, I just wanted to I have a 30 second closer from from that play the clothes from going a couple of from the from the grand gentleman And and so this is the guy who implements the changes each time He runs the team where you know, all of a sudden you wake up and like you're not found on Google. That's that's his team That's what he does. He is not the protect your computer division He's the protect Google's advertising business division and he is an extremely powerful individual on the Internet and I would presume within Google And here he is closing off just making the distinction between people who are on board with the program and regular webmasters. In the summer of 2013, I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm really excited about a lot of these changes because we do see really good improvements in terms of

1:25:25 of people who are link spamming or doing various black hat spam would be less likely to show up, I think, by the end of the summer. And at the same time, we've got a lot of nice changes queued up that hopefully will help small, medium businesses and regular webmasters as well. Just you little a-holes. Just you little people. You little people that we spit on, that we roll over in our Rolls Royces and our Ferraris on the way to work in the morning. You regular little small businesses, not like us the big business over here at Mountain View. So a lot of the things at the event were kind of creepy. The keynote went three hours and 36 minutes and it was all, you know... Was it Scoble? Was Scoble doing the keynote? Scoble wasn't there. So anyway, I took two clips that are kind of interesting. One of them explains something. It's like all of a sudden, when you hear this clip, the Google Map guy, when you hear this clip you're going to go, oh, ah,

1:26:24 I'm telling you, you're going to say, oh, that's why that way. Oh, OK. Recently, we launched two more countries, Thailand and Indonesia, bringing to total of 43 countries overall with the ground truth data. But this doesn't cover the whole world. In many cases, countries didn't have good maps. We created a tool called MapMaker. MapMaker allows its users to contribute their data and make the best maps they can. In some cases, those maps are now the best maps that country has anywhere. And that's helped us cover 199 countries around the world. But there's one country that was missing. We had some of it in MapMaker, but just very recently, we published North Korea. making 200.

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

OK Google, Facial Recognition Breakthroughs

Google introduces the "OK Google" voice search feature for Chrome, raising privacy concerns about always-on microphones. Furthermore, breakthroughs in facial recognition technology are detailed, allowing for deep analysis of skin, eyes, and jewelry in photos.

ok google· facial recognition· privacy· chrome· google plus

1:27:24 Oh, that explains why Schmidt was there. What other reason would he be there? So anyway, so that, but a lot of the event was creepy and it's just like, it's actually a creepy subtext. It's not out and out creepy because these guys are smiling all the time and when you're smiling, you know it's okay. And so I found that this was kind of creepy, which is the guy who's doing, there's a new photo app. that has all these supposed features that I am going to test because I don't believe half of them will actually work because everything always sounds good on paper and it works in the lab. And they also have this thing called OK Google which is my favorite new thing which I'm actually in conversation with the press office now about this. Now they know how to find you when they need some PR.

1:28:11 No, no, I was asking them about this and that, but I can't say who they are. It's funny. It's piss off. I don't want to take credit for saying anything. But OK Google is like you've got your Chrome browser up and you say OK Google and then the microphone picks that up and it opens up a search thing and you say Google, where's the nearest Chinese restaurant? And then your browser says to you on your desktop, nearest Chinese restaurant is right down the street. Take a left. Hold on. Hold on. So there is no other action I perform before saying, OK, Google, right? Well, then it's listening to me all the time, which is what I talked about two years ago. It's the first thing I thought of, too. No. Three years ago on Twit, I said Google is listening to you and they're giving you ads based upon what they're hearing.

1:29:03 And it was already admitted in paperwork at that point. So I had asked him about this exact same thing. I said, you know, what's the point when you just ask the question as though the thing is just listening to you all the time? And they said, well, there's a couple of things. One, it doesn't just do that without a plug in, which means that you are like partly responsible if this does happen. And second, then I got another note back a few hours later because they apparently reread my question. saying, ah, the Google, the Google, OK Google thing is not listened to by Google. It's a little piece of code in the computer that you have that when it hears OK Google, then it opens the channel. Of course. Of course. It's possible. Yeah, sure. If that's what they want to say, you know, but anyway, OK Google is this I said, you should just call it Siri 2.

1:29:51 Anyway, so here's it then it gets a little freakier now This is the guy who's got the new photo app and you can play this as Google and faces. Let's talk about recognizing people's faces if you have an inexpensive phone or Even an expensive camera those devices can recognize faces But the state of the art today is to put a rectangle around a face and say we think there's a face there. Oh Isn't the state of the art to put a target on the face? Isn't that the true state of the art? We've had several breakthroughs at Google. We're now able to deeply recognize the human face and skin. We can tease apart exactly where is the hairline, what are the eyes, the teeth, is the person wearing jewelry, do they have glasses on, and we can separate all that out.

1:30:36 That breakthrough means that when we do the other effects, things like structure, tonal enhancement, we can do something different on the clouds, the water, the mountains, and we can treat the human face completely separately. Like a professional would in a tool. Wow boy. There's another thing they've had. They had the Google Plus upgrade. They're changing the look and feel of Google Plus and they're adding these self-assigned by Google hashtags and the example was they said look there's a picture of me in front of the Eiffel Tower and now look the hashtag Eiffel Tower has been put there by Google since it recognized the Eiffel Tower.

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Climate Change, Carbon Levels, Cap and Trade

Time Magazine's Jeffrey Kluger discusses atmospheric CO2 levels reaching 400 ppm, comparing the current era to the Pleistocene. The hosts express skepticism toward the "global warming" narrative, arguing that the "Cap and Trade" system is primarily a financial scam.

climate change· carbon dioxide· pleistocene· cap and trade· jeffrey kluger

1:31:22 So I mean it just it all sounded like such spook stuff. Yeah, don't you think? Totally. No, it's tools for the press so the press can make more fake photos, you know more fake. I think it's all tools for the CIA. What isn't that the same thing? Press CIA. Meanwhile climate change has hit the United Kingdom really hard John. Springtime in Shropshire and two weeks after May Day winter is back. This morning they woke up to a whiteout, two inches of snow, plenty of surprise, a shock. It is, uh, we're halfway to June.

1:32:03 and they have snow. Which was predicted. The kids would only see it in snow globes. It'll never come back. Good call on that one. They're in panic mode right now. I've noticed as they're trying to drop in all this global warming stuff as fast as they can. They got to solve it before it's solved. I noticed that there was a couple of massive sun flares. CME is Coronal Mass Ejection and it screwed up the ham radios. Oh, did it now? Yeah, no, I can hear. You can hear the static. It's almost flowing. And all of a sudden you get a whole bunch of... You just hear everyone from everywhere and then it's gone. It's just nothing but white noise. You hear nothing at all. Oh yeah, it's really... It's very bad for hamvention, which is coming up this weekend.

1:32:56 and I'm glad you're keeping up with it. Are you going to go to Hamvention? No, I can't. No, it's Dayton, Ohio. It's a little complicated. It's too complicated. So anyway, so we're, and I was reading about these flares and it appears that we're at the end of one of the sunspot 22-year cycles. That means things are going to go the other direction, which means we're not going to get We're at the solar maximum. We've talked about this before, I think there's going to be regression in the warming and then at that point it's too late. If we can push the global warming stuff in as fast as we can,

1:33:33 Be on board by the time the regression began then you can say well, it's a good thing We passed all these laws. Yeah, the things are going back in the right direction But if we don't get that done, then they're screwed and there's their cap and trade scam is done Yeah, and then the president won't have his legacy that he saved the earth and and time magazine of course is on board with it here's the senior writer Kluger on the CBS morning show and When you listen to this, I don't know if we should... I don't think we can not interrupt it.

1:34:10 Because if you ever if you ever want to hear someone who's on board With the whole program of getting people to believe in this with just crap. He's throwing out there that is completely unprovable This is the guy let's learn more now from Jeffrey Kluger. He's a senior writer for Time magazine Jeffrey. Good morning. Good morning. So how serious is this and how concerned should we be? He's talking about the recent revelation that we have gone from 350 parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere to 400 parts per million. We are pre-dead. It is serious and we should be concerned. The last time the parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere, they're currently 400 ppm. Okay. God. Were this high, it was 2 million years ago.

1:34:58 We're in the Pleistocene era. It was two million years ago, John, during the Pleistocene era when this took place. Because, you know, he was there. He was hanging around. He has fact proof. There were forests in Greenland and sea levels were 66 feet higher than they are right now. What this means is we are on the west side of Manhattan at this moment. If this keeps up to what it was back then, we would be swimming at this address. And my understanding is that... So if we don't stop it, we're gonna be swimming at this address. We're gonna be underwater proof back two million years

1:35:34 years ago. Plants and animals can adjust when CO2 levels rise, but just not when it rises this quickly. Well that's exactly right. Plants and animals do adjust. They acclimate very easily to this, but it takes centuries and even millennia for this to happen. If we're at 400 now, we were at 315 back in 1958. That is way too fast for anything, humans, plants, any kind of the ecosystem to adapt to this. I'm having trouble adapting, John. How you doing? I'm flopping around like a fish out of water. Whoa. Yeah, no, no, I'm so happy that we have from day one. We have never wavered from our stance on this. Yes, but I want to remind people because all you guys are just a bunch of skeptics jerk offs. I am. That's only the hot chicks who talk like that to me. I don't know. I am.

1:36:30 The reason I've always subscribed to the skeptic side of this equation besides... smart people like Freeman Dyson and Michael Crichton and Rutan, Bert Rutan has a PowerPoint stack which you can have a look at. They're all funded by fossil fuel man and big oil, what are you talking about? There's a lot of smart engineers out there and then you hear about guys who are climatologists who won't say anything because they get shouted down which is what Crichton complained about. None of this was the reason I am on board with the skeptic side. It's because of cap and trade.

1:37:07 If you're so serious about this, what is the point of the trade? Just cap it. You can't cap it. If you were really, if this was a horrible situation, you would cap it. You just cap it. They don't cap it. They cap and trade. So nothing changes. All the very, you just, oh, it's all bull crap. It's just a, it's a financial scam. Cap and trade makes no sense. Anyway, that's the reason. Okay. John C. Devorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. There was a fun little bit on C-SPAN yesterday.

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Eric Holder, Email Privacy, ECPA

Attorney General Eric Holder testifies before the House Judiciary Committee regarding the government's ability to obtain emails without a warrant. Holder references the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) and expresses a desire to balance law enforcement needs with modern technology.

eric holder· ecpa· privacy· fourth amendment· email

1:37:44 Which of course you know had to move over to C-SPAN 3 and so you know I'm glad I have two machines running because I was recording on one and then like oh it's not important anymore go and a lot of people don't even have C-SPAN 3 I found out. I do but I don't I only get it on the computer. Really? Right the dish only has one and two they don't have three? Right. Well, there you go. So of course, the Attorney General, the Oversight Committee, the Judicial Oversight Committee with Attorney General Eric Holder, of course that moves to C-SPAN 3. So you know, psshhh, so you can't actually hear it. We don't want to watch it.

1:38:23 So there's a number of things that were talked about here and I pulled a couple clips just because I thought they were funny. Did you see any of the hearing? No, I missed the whole thing. Oh good. Well, here are the highlights. You don't need much more than what I'm going to play for you. First we start with Representative Delvaney and she has a question regarding the IRS. This was in the news recently so it's a very relevant question. The IRS having the authority to read your email. Unlike, you know, they can't read your mail, they can't come into your house and just bust it open and just grab stuff. And it's really interesting to hear how hold is, because you don't, obviously, you have to see it to know what happened here. So this question comes up, and people were handing him notes the entire time. And he is now trying to read the note and not doing a good job of it.

1:39:19 A few weeks ago there were news reports about documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU, that revealed internal memos that said the FBI believed it could obtain the contents of Americans emails without a warrant if the emails were sent to or received by a third-party service like Hotmail or Yahoo Outlook.com Gmail Do you believe the government has a right to obtain emails without a warrant? And well first I'll ask you that Here's like you're gonna write back to our post office argument the show is getting repetitive. Yep, I

1:39:57 Well, the um... He's looking at the note and he can't figure out, it's either he can't read the handwriting or... There's a talking point on there, he can't find it. He can't figure it out. The authorities that we have are I guess in some ways, you know, decide or defined by ECPA. So he's just reading ECPA, which of course is the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, but he doesn't even, he's an ECPA, because he has no idea what he's talking about. And we have testified, people have testified on behalf of the Justice Department, is how we... This was funny, right? I'm like, you can't write this. This is a gem. Update the abilities that we have so that we are

1:40:43 we have the ability to conduct investigations in as quick a fashion as we can given the technology, the new technologies that we face. And how would we apply rules that exist? Let's try this one. The Constitution, you douche. With regard to obtaining information without court orders in this new era. And so I think that's the question that we wrestle with. I just thought that was great how he's like, uh, wrestle very hard do they well so there's a follow-up and he just wants new rules new rules this we can certainly we can find some rules to I don't know

1:41:27 over just trample on the Constitution. You do not have the right, but they're going to come up with these rules. And of course, now everyone is all on board with their Gmail, their outlook, their hotmail, whatever. I run my own mail server, people, and I think you should do that the same. So the only way they can get to it is physically coming into my house or hacking into my computer, which both would no one here except Miss Mickey maybe is going to hand it over like Google, like Google, your friend over there, Matt Cutts. Now you're not going to get that. So here's him talking about the rules. We still have and should have expectations of privacy however it is that we communicate. At the same time, I want to make sure that law enforcement in the way that it did 40-50 years ago has the ability to acquire information. Now what was, help me with this, 40-50 years, he wants it to be as good as 40-50 years ago so that would place it at

1:42:31 The 70s? The late 70s, the Nixonian era. Was that a great time for everybody? No, it was a depression from 69 to about 80. So he feels that he wants to go back to those good old days when I guess you could just like bust down and get whatever you wanted? I'm not sure what he means by that. Can you play it again so I can listen to it more carefully? Yeah, what are you doing? I'm listening, but I wasn't listening with that in mind. To make sure that law enforcement in the way that it did 40, 50 years ago has the ability to acquire information and how we strike that balance I think is really important and is really one of the most important conversations I think that we can have in the 21st century and one that I think that this administration would like to engage with Congress on so that we come up with a set of rules that probably not perfect but will meet

1:43:25 We'll meet somewhere in the middle so that we have that we can maintain privacy while at the same time maintaining that ability that law enforcement has to have. Law enforcement has to have that ability! Maybe it's because there was no encryption, you could just put an alligator clip on the telephone pole, is that what he means by that? You know, I think he's blowing smoke. I don't think he means anything by it. So he got really so now we get into some anger which was always fun Yeah, yeah him and I said got into it. Mr. Attorney General. This is about okay, so there's a little setup to this so he is he's been called in and you know, of course the White House the most transparent administration all of history ever

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Darrell Issa, Eric Holder, Email Headers

Representative Darrell Issa confronts Eric Holder over the limited release of email records related to Department of Justice investigations. The committee has reportedly only seen 34 email headers out of 1,200 requested documents, leading to accusations of a lack of transparency.

darrell issa· eric holder· subpoenas· federal records act· transparency

1:44:12 have released a whopping 34 emails, headers only by the way. Just headers, not even the content of the emails, which is fair because that's all they get from us when they tap us. And Isa cracks a joke and Holder goes off on it. Our investigators have seen 34 of the 35 admitted emails that violate the Federal Records Act. They have only seen the to and from, they have not seen the deliberative contents, and they have not seen the remainder of the 1,200 emails. Mr. Cummings, my ranking member, joined in a letter requesting that we have the full contents pursuant to our subpoena of all 1,200. Will you make them available to the committee based on our bipartisan request?

1:44:58 I will certainly look at the request. It's not something that I've personally been involved in, but I'll look at the request and try to be as responsive as we can. I'm sure there must have been a good reason why only the to and from parts were... Yes, you didn't want us to see the details. It's shameful! Stop pestering me! It's shameful! Don't do that anymore! So this of course is a Republican dominated conversation which makes it even funnier. And we have, I think he's a new guy, Collins? Is Collins new to the process here? I've never seen him. I don't know a Collins, the only one I know is the woman Collins up in... No, this is dude Collins. I think he's from Texas.

1:46:02 and that yeah there is a car he's new right yeah he's new I think he's new yeah consult the book of knowledge on that so Collins so here's here's Google to look it up yeah please oh you you you are so hypocritical you you hypocrite okay by the way I use ye see as my search engine y AC why yet another search engine which is a peer-to-peer search engine I see you should use go yeah that's not venture-funded they're not trying to make any money They're all good. They're all good. They're all great. Who bought AltaVista? Remember AltaVista? I think it was bought by Google. I think didn't Yahoo buy that? Oh, maybe Yahoo and Google would start buying everybody up and then Yahoo end up using the Microsoft product. It just baffles me. Anyways, go on. Yeah. Y-A-C-Y, YACY, you should really look into that. It's pretty, it's not fast, it's not fast enough for

1:46:56 for doing stuff during the show. That's the problem. But it'll get better. I stick with this stuff. Anyway, so Collins, so part of the IRS issue, is it IRS or AP? One of the scandals. Attorney General Holder, who of course works for- Is it Chris Collins? He's in New York. Or Doug Collins. Chris Collins? Ford Collins. It's Ford Collins. It's gotta be, he's a Republican, so I don't know. Anyway. So, Holder was supposed to recuse himself from the investigation. This is AP. This is spying on reporters. Right. A classic. A classic, of course, but we had to do that obviously for national security because we were all going to die if they didn't spy on the journalists.

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Doug Collins, Eric Holder, Committee Confrontation

Representative Doug Collins of Georgia engages in a heated exchange with Eric Holder regarding the Attorney General's recusal from the AP phone records investigation. The confrontation highlights tensions over committee procedures, time control, and Holder's perceived arrogance during testimony.

doug collins· eric holder· georgia· recusal· house judiciary committee

1:47:47 And the journalist, you know, is like, you know, they're making a big stink out of it for some leverage. But, you know, let's really be honest. You know, they they need this complete compromise situation to continue. So it's meaningless. But because of Holder's previous law firm, he had to recuse himself from the investigation. But he forgot to put it in writing, which kind of means like you didn't actually recuse yourself. But maybe he did. Maybe he's not sure about... Well, gee, now I'm not sure what... He doesn't know what he's doing? He doesn't really know what he's doing, no. I'm trying to find out who authorized the subpoena. You can't tell me if Deputy Attorney General Cole authorized... I'm sorry, that's the wrong clip. Here's the clip I meant. The question that I have is, this being the committee in which is oversight that you come to, and this will be maybe the first but probably not the only time we'll talk in this capacity.

1:48:49 is it concerns me the lack of preparation. He's from Texas for sure. He's definitely not the same guy I'm looking at. Perceived lack of preparation, which you come here today. And Ms. Lofgren from across, I made a statement about did you put it in writing and we've had this discussion about your recusal and your answer to that was that I don't think I put it in writing. I'm not sure. Did you not think those questions were going to be asked of you today? That is a classic the way he did it. Did you not think those questions were gonna be... Did you not think when you put your dick in there that that was not a bad thing to do? Gilly Bob? That when you recused yourself from this, when you were actually... Did you just honestly think those would not be asked today?

1:49:32 I didn't think about whether or not you were going to ask me that question at all one way or the other, but I wanted to. You're kidding me. You come to this committee today with these issues like they are right now. This guy is great. This is so country, so country, and it's about to get ugly. Let me finish, Congressman. What I was going to say was that I asked my own people. I reclaim my time. Mr. Chairman, can you make your ruling again on who controls the time? Give him extra time. The time is controlled by the gentleman from Georgia. He can have extra time. Who controls the time? Give him extra time. The time is controlled by the gentleman from Georgia. He can have extra time. Let me just answer the question. He can't say he has extra time. I know, I know, here it comes. You don't control the time here. You don't control the time, bitch!

1:50:24 I love it was so wonderful. I'm willing to give okay, that's okay. My question is this I'm willing to give now Holder is saying I'm willing to give you more time this guy is so arrogant as I come back to this Could the witness have a chance to respond? The witness will have a full opportunity to respond, but the gentleman from Georgia has the opportunity to ask his question. Mr. Chairman, just to make a point, the Attorney General stayed here extra time... Now these of course are the Democrats all piling on. And you're about to hear our favorite, what's-her-face, Cheryl Lee Jackson. Oh, Cheryl Lee Ralph, whatever, oh.

1:51:09 uh... why can't he answer the question as opposed to he will get an opportunity to answer the question just as soon as mister collins finishes posing his question will give him extra time after mister collins time is expired just as we have done for the attorney general on several occasions for a while and i'll have a minute may i just a moment now here's your i would appreciate it i know that some of us have Deep base like voices might sound that we're not being friendly and happy, but I would appreciate a little civility in the questioning of the Attorney General as we proceed to the conclusion. And this, I didn't, what the hell is she talking about? Cause Collins doesn't have a deep base voice. Who has a deep base voice on here except for Holder. She does. Mr. Chairman, can we have some civility? Stop pestering my man. I yield back.

1:51:58 the gentleman from georgia may proceed i think you mister and a post-it i just have just a simple question it was amazing to me that the question was did you not think that you would be asked about maybe the timeline of when you might have recused yourself because you also said at one point your accused of before subpoenas or it was a there was some question even in your own dialogue about when you actually did this so i'm just asking now and just just so you hear how your government works wait for it a simple question As the others on the other side, they've got the answer to their questions. I'm now asking mine. Did you not think that someone on this panel would have asked you those questions? I did not know whether anybody would ask me that question, but irrespective of that, I thought that was an important factor, an important fact, and it was one of the reasons why I asked my staff to find out, irrespective of what was going to happen up here today, whether or not there was in writing a recusal. I asked that question myself, thinking that it was... I said to myself, self?

1:52:54 Did you put that recusal in writing or did you could you make it a little vague so you can say you did that recusal postmortem so you can rectify the Abilify problem when it comes up? Important question. I did not know. I don't know what you are going to ask me. So that's why I was saying I didn't know whether or not you were going to ask the question, but I thought it was an important one and one that I put to my staff. I put that to my staff and they said, we don't know, but you can say you know that you didn't know that maybe you had the recusal written in writing, but you know, hey, I don't know what you want to ask me. So here is the final clip that I'll play from this where his true colors come through, where he gets his extra time and he throws a smackdown shut up slave. Because the Attorney General, what is he to the American people? He's the number one law enforcer. But is he the boss of me? Well, he shouldn't be. He's working for you. He's actually your servant. Thank you.

1:53:51 a civil servant. He works for me and his primary job is to uphold and protect the Constitution. But that's not how Attorney General Eric Holder sees himself. when you get in his face. And just so you know, I can fuck you up. This is crazy! These people are so out of control. Anyway, so that was about it. I mean, of course there's nothing else because they're all just playing little footsies and little games, and they're all complicit in the game. Anyway, the guy's Doug Collins. He's District 9 in Georgia. Oh, Georgia. That makes sense. Good. Good on him. Well, I thought it was pretty funny. He was certainly entertaining.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, Donation Credits, Space Station Message

The show continues with a lengthy list of producer credits and birthday shoutouts. A notable mention includes a successful APRS message sent to the International Space Station by a listener, which was "digi-peated" back to Earth.

birthdays· donations· international space station· aprs· ham radio

1:55:03 as a new player on the scene. Yeah, but he was on C-Span 3, so he was on a minor league team. So you'd have to move up the ladder here to get our attention. You've got some work to do. Seems that you like that. I like it very much. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I do. We do have a couple people to thank and let's thank them. Kevin Lacombe in Port Orchard, Washington. $146. Pleased to hear of the many producers in Port Orchard and other parts of the Kitsap County. That's so awesome. Sounds like a great place for a future Hot Pocket tour. Stop today. Thursday is my wife Adelaide's birthday. Do we have her on the list? Do we? Let me check. Let me check. Let me check. Let me check. Let me check.

1:56:03 Adele Adele sorry Adele Lacombe no capital L small a capital C small o small m small b small e hold on where are you even looking what I where are you reading this from I'm reading it off the spreadsheet I don't see it okay when I put it on okay well so it's Kevin Lacombe I but this is not my job it's Yeah, yeah, you can do no comeback Kevin look home. I'll bitch about it to the to the says happy birthday to what's his name Adele What's her name? Yes Adele Adele a DLE Adele okay? I got it geez He wants a one hot milf in an LG why I thought we weren't doing this anymore We get to do sweet spot. We do spots. Oh

1:57:02 Okay, but you know I was like I'm writing down I'm doing a lot of work here like I'm writing down birthdays. Oh my god now we gotta do this like that's one hot milk baby. Yay! Alright. Okay, Alejandro 1111 Michael Sopko Belmar Joysey $100 that was a check Christopher McClymont in Lewisham New South Wales $100 He sends a hundred because love is the most powerful... Never mind. It's the most powerful thing on the planet. By the way, that was... I did go back to the Google thing again. They kept doing the love thing. Well, they ripped it off from... Love. It's the most powerful thing on the planet. They ripped it off. That's what it is. They're trying to kill you with love. Be careful. Be careful of unicorns. That's a karate photography. San Francisco, $88.88.

1:57:58 In Guthrie, Oklahoma 88 88 now hold on a second. I got to rewind it a new tape recorder a new tape recorder yeah on Sunday you sent a successful in the morning message via APR s up to the International Space Station I checked he did it was received and Digi-peated? What? Digi-peated. As in digi-peated. Oh, digi-peated. Way to go, Ham. It was digi-peated back down to, oh, nothing like using a 120 billion dollar space station for our personal fun. 73 KD5 PDN. I love that. It's true. So the APRS you can

1:58:43 It's uh, you can send messages, we can send location data and it connects to the internet But it's really fun when it connects through through the through the radio waves. Yeah, he sent it to the space a good work We need more of that much more of that very good. I like this. I like the expense of it, too. Yeah And that was Doug cook right? Yeah. Yeah Paul Schneider 69-69 that's our new theme for 69-6. That's one of our producers little kid. Yes Gross, that's what I meant in Alberta. There should be a note about that Is there not a note? I didn't see it. You know, it's like I'm getting worried now because

1:59:30 Michael let's go on this get these done Michael Miller and Tiburon Calif don't get worried 69 69 he's everybody over here Christina Lake and Lisbon, Maine 69 69 and do we have the 32nd birthday to her awesome husband sir Richard Harriman Yes Patrick Vaughn sir Patrick Vaughn in Traverse City, Michigan 69 69 And he needs his ring so I'm on it. 69! 69, dudes! Barbara Klein, Greenwood, Indiana, is 67 bucks and she had a check. A check. She sent a check with a note I have here. She goes on and on. By the way, did you know that kids today can't read longhand? Really? Yeah. Is that fact?

2:00:22 It's a fact. My son, Buzzkill Jr., can't read longhand. My daughter can't read longhand. They don't teach it anymore. Well, what did they learn in that homeschool of yours? Oh, they wouldn't learn longhand. They would say type. Everything is on the computer. They don't write. And so when somebody writes in a long note like Barbara Klein did here, I have to read it myself. Okay, so here's how I'm trying to figure out where you're going. I get it. So the spreadsheet is being put together and a check comes in with a note and the kids are all like, can you read this crap? I don't know about that. Screw it. Just throw the note in front of dad's nose. He'll figure it out.

2:01:01 So anyway, she says our efforts are heroic. I had to read that. And she says you'll soon be permanent residents of the SPLC list. I have been on that list myself. She's talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center is what she's talking about. That's the SPLC. Yeah, that's what I think. You're a hate group. Oh, that's what she's talking about. Okay. I didn't get it at first. We're not a hate group. Yes, you are. What do you mean me? You, specifically you. I'm smelling like a rose because I talk about unicorns and rainbows and you're all about just hate and anger. Personal auto advisors in Gardner, Kansas. 6788. He was saving to become a knight with one big donation, but the IRS decided that I made too much money. Now my wife says all the extra money has to go to the IRS bill before I can have a life.

2:01:56 I hate that. He's going for Grand Duke. A. Schlundt-Bodeen. Sir Scott William. Sir Scott William. I don't know what that is all about. Ann Arbor, Michigan, 55-55. And we have Alicia May. Is she on the list? We have a lot of birthdays today. We do. We do. Stephan from Denver. Or Stephen. Double Eagles on the dime. James Mann in Ringgold, Louisiana. Double Eagles on the dime. Also a check, right? These are all checks. This is good. Sorry what these are all checks that are coming in people using checks goods Stephanie Lusby and mid Mid low mid Lothian yeah, you know how to pronounce that so why so why do we think it's Steven? But then it's not Steven II I don't think it's Steven. I think it's Stefan and it's Stephanie. I think it's Steven and Steven II Okay, all right he needs a milf call out for his wife's

2:02:56 Stephanie. Stephanie. It's a donation from Tom. Ah, but it's on her account. Well, just give her a milf. Milf? That's one mother I'd like to f***. Matthew Forreston, Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire. Double nickels on the dime had a tough couple years does he want a karma? I don't see anything Oh, he would like to hear a kiki science as her voice gives me a semi. All right already Science yeah, back off You have a semi for more than three hours consult your health care provider Marvin's bolts fuss

2:03:41 I'm not having any fun. Marvin Stoltz fuss in Honeybrook, Pennsylvania. 5550. Thank you. 5150. Sorry. Mary Mesner in Fair Oaks, California. $50. Kevin Payne. Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia. 50 bucks. Eric Olson. Do we have another? We have another birthday. Anika. Anika. Not Anika. Anika. Okay. Annika. Is she on the list? Yes, she's on the list. Water Valley Mississippi Nuts and Josh McDonald, the Brunswick Victorious, Jason Fortune, Geneva, Illinois, Chris, Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta where all the money is. Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington, another one. Mike Westerfield, Sir Mike to you and finally Philip Meason in Pows,

2:04:36 Dan Greb in Lansdale, Pennsylvania all 50 bucks and we want to thank every one of them for contributing to the show 5 1 3 and You have a note from someone who's Said he just wants us to acknowledge the note. Yes note acknowledged. It's a fear fan at Yahoo! So we'll, Billy. Oh, Billy. All right. So this could have been better and I'm very concerned because there's a lot of knights and dukes and earls who are in this list. Not a lot of new people, not a lot of people who've been, I know you've been listening and haven't contributed, so you clearly don't see the value in it. Okay, good.

2:05:21 But I do know a lot of nights in this list. Well, that's what's great about it. But you know come Sunday. We'll see how to girl Yeah, we'll see how great we feel come Sunday the 69 69 by the way that is a little Damien whose dad Aaron that's a Damien yo-ho, you know Aaron yo-ho and He's a long-term supporter of the program. Damien turns four today and much to his mom's chagrin, this is what he keeps repeating around the house. 59, 59, dude. You just see mom getting really pissed about that.

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Homemade Maple Syrup, Moonshine, Limoncello

The hosts thank listeners for sending homemade products, including maple syrup from Maine and high-proof moonshine. They share anecdotes about enjoying these items and the "liquid gold" status of authentic maple syrup.

maple syrup· moonshine· limoncello· maine· gifts

2:06:02 What is this no agenda crap? Those guys are ruining our child! I also have a quick note here that I neglected on Sunday. I want to thank producer Mike from the main town of Newport. We live in a small main town of Newport on a double lot have several mature maple trees on the property. Three years ago we tapped our trees for the first time and started down the road of making our own maple syrup ever since and they sent us a jar of their own maple syrup. Indeed. Which I did you get some as well? Yes. Have you tried it yet? Of course. And what'd you think?

2:06:44 I think it's outstanding. Outstanding product, I would agree. I had it on the pancake sundae, and for some reason I didn't get to it, and I will have- but it goes quick! It's just like gold, it's like liquid gold! Like, oh man. And we had guests over on Sunday and they got up a little bit late and here's what I did. So, Ms. Mickey, of course, always makes pancakes on Sunday. It's for good luck and karma. So, I had my pancakes with the homemade maple syrup and our guests came down for pancakes. I gave them the whole food stuff. That sucks! I didn't- I- I'm not going to waste my great maple syrup directly from Maine on the peasants. That's exactly right! In fact, it's Mickey's family! And she said, no, don't give them that. Oh, shi- And she's right! Screw that.

2:07:38 I do love, I do love getting all the homemade products. We never heard from our Noah Jenna Moonshine guy again, ever. I know, what happened to him? I don't know, I mean that product is so outstanding. I gotta figure out who he was. I don't think, I don't know, maybe he missed the fact that we love this stuff and this bottle's dynamite. And I have like a little layer left in the bottle and I'm just saving it. Oh, I have only had the one, no I haven't even, I had the one taste of it, I refused to drink it down because it's, It's too much of a conversation piece. I have almost just annihilated the whole bottle and I'm just keeping a little bit left for, you know, that moment in time where the planet's going to crash into the earth and we're all going to die. That moment I'll be like, ah, this is what I've been looking forward to. And I'll have that last sip of Noah Jenderman shine. Adios, mofos.

2:08:30 That'll be it. It's stronger than Everclear. It's 90% alcohol. It's 180 proof. Yeah. It is Everclear. You can blow up the place with that. It's probably a weapon of mass destruction if you think about it. It's Windex. What are you talking about? But it's an outstanding product and I really miss it. And I also, I just want to thank Elise Garling again who sent the limoncello which Somehow your bottle got mixed up with my bottle John. Yeah, I know it's a bottle of gauze. It's war Both bottles are gone That stuff strong Yeah, and I'm glad I stopped drugs cuz alcohol is so much more fun. It really is Drugs known to be great It's fantastic

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

TSA Employee Feedback, Birthday Roundup

A TSA employee known as "G Roper" sends a note regarding their fifth wedding anniversary. The segment concludes with a final roundup of birthdays for various "slavelets" and producers associated with the show.

tsa· g roper· anniversaries· birthdays· blogger bob

2:09:22 It really is. We just gotta watch it. You know, Miss Mickey gets a little loopy. Oh, and you're a lightweight. Oh, no, I am. I'm two or three. I'm done. You know me. Yeah, I do. And it's like, I find it highly amusing. Because I would have to, at this point, assume it's genetic. It's like you're Asian. I'm sure I can do it. I'm Asian. Yeah. I need to test for that Asian gene exactly Please consider us with your donation even if the monthlies are great by the way I love it when you guys sign up for the monthlies because if we

2:10:02 Ask long enough in about 10 years. We'll be able to sustain enough even though they cancel people left and right for no apparent reason And now they're sending him notices to scare the public I got an email from mrs. G Roper our TSA shill who gave us all the inside dirt on on How to get through the without going through the slave scanner yeah, so he is an actual TSA employee and she sent me a very long very lovely note and And what she really is, you know, there this is we really have no money as a lowly low life I think she meant to say a TSA employee, but we we really are big fans of the show and that's why they you know, Give us all these tips but 5 the 17th is their fifth wedding anniversary And she wanted me to say happy anniversary to G Roper and and to her of course, you know what send a picture I wonder what these TSA guys are getting

2:10:59 You know, it would be nice if I could see your face, but that's okay. You know, the, uh, I was, yeah, these, some of the TSA people, I'd get a miserable job and then they have to put up with us, with us, with us, well, us and the public in general, and they're represented by blogger Bob holes. There's no doubt about that. And you run into, you're always would cite the guys who used to be shouting all the time. Yep. Yep. Yeah, you know those guys of course they've all quit by now now that people are left over kind of like you know I can't get out of the castle work imagine the the public facing front of your organization is blogger Bob I mean how hard that guy's an idiot what a dick yeah, what's bad? Okay, and now it's

2:11:53 Kristina Lake Harriman says happy birthday sir. Richard Harriman turned 32 on the 14th. Sir Scott William says happy birthday to Alisha May. She celebrated yesterday. Eric Olsen says happy birthday to his daughter Annika. She celebrates tomorrow. Aaron Yoho of course as we know says happy fourth birthday to slavelet Damian. He is celebrating today. John congratulates himself turning 46 tomorrow. Dan Dudas. His brother Chris Dudas turned 35 on the 10th. Happy birthday. Sorry we missed that, by the way. Not quite sure what happened, but... No, I do know what happened. Buzzkill Jr. messed it up, so... Happy birthday belatedly, Chris. And Kevin L'Adol-Lacombe says happy birthday to the lovely Adele. And we say happy birthday to all of you from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe! Hell yeah. Um... how about...

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Slave Training, Lockdown Drills, Columbine Aftermath

A high school student shares an email about being singled out after the Columbine massacre due to his appearance. He describes how he challenged school officials on the flaws of lockdown procedures, arguing that they create "fish in a barrel" scenarios for potential attackers.

lockdown drills· columbine· school safety· bullying· guidance counselors

2:12:47 How about this? Adam's gonna read his email. Adam's gonna read his email. Adam's gonna read his email. On the No Agenda Show. This is a faster version, you like it? Much better, because the other one's just too, it just drags. Yeah, but it's a hit! This is a great, this is an existing melody? Cuz I wind up singing this to myself. I wind up singing it to myself. I had something I was singing to myself the other day and I still do this and I think everybody listens to the show a lot does this you're watching television some guy comes on and you think you hear that you hear it in your head douchebag

2:13:27 Yeah, I hear that a lot. You know what a lot of people have in their head is... That one really, really freaks people out because you see the signs everywhere now and then you see the words and then you're like when are they gonna license this from us? I think it's a great... play it again. Yeah, I mean this is so license worthy. And that is the Jeff Smith, you know, so... Yeah, no, that's good stuff. That is It's amazing how talented a jingle master can be when they do you just take the simple words and then you know it is better than autotunes So we're in our slave training topic here and of course we encourage human resources to send us emails regarding their experiences in school with drills and the like

2:14:20 And also we've been asking parents if their children come home with something weird. And the thing that is just really, I'm loving so much John, is that we have young people listening to this show. We have teenagers, high school students listening to this show, which means there is hope. Yes, there is hope. So I'd like to share a couple of these emails if you don't if you're okay with that. I think that's what the segment's all about. All right so here is producer Aaron. I'm not only gonna give first names because you know I they're underage and we got to be careful. Hey Adam Heil everybody! When you get an email from a high school student who says Heil everybody I mean does that not just put a smile on your face John? It does for me.

2:15:04 I just listened to last Thursday's episode, was listening to you reading about lockdown drills and just had to chime in on my experience. Right after the Columbine quote massacre, I, in particular, was singled out as a potential shoot-'em-up nutjob because, I suppose, I wore black all the time, listened to metal bands, and it was widely known that until 10th grade, the year before Columbine, I was often the victim of physical and emotional bullying. Unlike modern bullying campaigns, I ended this by stomping the ever-living shit out of the last person that bullied me, just as my father had told me to. Finally. And that pretty much ended it. Very good.

2:15:43 Anyway, moving on. After Columbine, I was called down to the guidance office all the time. A county brownie, i.e. sheriff's officer, was present at all meetings. At one of these intellectually exhaustive meetings, I was asked if I were to go on a rampage like the kids at Columbine, how would I go about it? Tired of these overt, conspicuous meetings that made me even more of an outcast among the school populace, I decided to see if I could make these two assholes crap themselves like Al Roker in the White House. Can you believe that these kids are great writers, John? This is such a future. They may not be able to read longhand, but boy, they got word skills.

2:16:26 I told them that since they've instituted these lockdown procedures, I'd found out that the principal's office area, a group of offices for the principal, vice principal and guidance counselors, was where I'd go first, because there was a single button unlocked by a key the principal and vice principal had that magnetically sealed all classroom doors in the building. I told them I'd be the that'd be the first place I'd hit lock down the school cut the outside phone and network lines Cell phones weren't something very every kid had at the time Then using the principals master key and knowing the windows didn't open I'd go from room to room opening them up chucking in a grenade or something Finishing off anyone who was left this way. I told them I'd get the maximum kill count well the look on their face was priceless I

2:17:11 I told them that in locking down the school they were in fact putting everyone in more danger and would essentially be responsible for a school full of dead kids. That I told them that doing that would be easy, but I'm way too lazy to carry it out so they had nothing to fear from me but every reason to fear their own procedures. After that it was adios mofos and they sent me on my way never to interrogate me again. They changed lockdown procedures after that by way of never having them again. But I did notice that two more police were stationed there giving a total of three. So this has been going on for some time, at least over a decade in regards of lockdown procedures. Just had the chime in with my experience. So I thought that was a very good email. That's a very good email and it actually makes sense.

2:17:58 Yeah, lockdown procedures for one thing. Let's take here's the way it's been going We've forgotten the notes and the kids get locked down They're told to hide and they lock the doors and then they don't say anything So the guys coming in they kill all the kids and all of a sudden the school's empty Is that what they're trying to make him think it's match. There's nobody here. Oh There's nobody here, I might as well go someplace else? Have you ever... Is that what they're... Yes! No, this guy, our friend here, he is... he's right. It's creating a situation that will end up with a school full of dead kids. Because that's what you do, you lock it down so you can't get out and then you throw a grenade in each one of the rooms. Exactly what he said. He's dead on, dead right. Second email from Nick Hill.

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School Security Procedures, Armed Resistance, Cafeteria Food

Additional emails from students describe modern school security drills, including "Code Blue" lockdowns and new strategies involving barricading doors with desks. One student from Kalamazoo, Michigan, critiques the "slave food" served in the cafeteria and the frequent presence of police on campus.

school drills· swat· armed resistance· kalamazoo· school lunch

2:17:11 I told them that in locking down the school they were in fact putting everyone in more danger and would essentially be responsible for a school full of dead kids. That I told them that doing that would be easy, but I'm way too lazy to carry it out so they had nothing to fear from me but every reason to fear their own procedures. After that it was adios mofos and they sent me on my way never to interrogate me again. They changed lockdown procedures after that by way of never having them again. But I did notice that two more police were stationed there giving a total of three. So this has been going on for some time, at least over a decade in regards of lockdown procedures. Just had the chime in with my experience. So I thought that was a very good email. That's a very good email and it actually makes sense.

2:17:58 Yeah, lockdown procedures for one thing. Let's take here's the way it's been going We've forgotten the notes and the kids get locked down They're told to hide and they lock the doors and then they don't say anything So the guys coming in they kill all the kids and all of a sudden the school's empty Is that what they're trying to make him think it's match. There's nobody here. Oh There's nobody here, I might as well go someplace else? Have you ever... Is that what they're... Yes! No, this guy, our friend here, he is... he's right. It's creating a situation that will end up with a school full of dead kids. Because that's what you do, you lock it down so you can't get out and then you throw a grenade in each one of the rooms. Exactly what he said. He's dead on, dead right. Second email from Nick Hill.

2:18:43 Hi Adam, I've been a listener to the show for a year now, but I'm a high school junior so I have no money to donate. I'll donate once I have money to spend. Such logic is great. At our school they used to have drills similar to what was talked about on show 512 where the principal would come on the intercom and tell us, code blue! Code blue to trigger a lockdown. We would then all hide in a corner like the subservient slaves that we are until the principal would say, all clear! Wow. This school year, as apparently district policy, we've been told to adopt a new strategy for combating any potential threat. Arming ourselves! Not with guns, of course, but with textbooks and calculators, pencils and pens. We arm ourselves to attack an invader with whatever means necessary. We also barricade the door with desks. Apparently, they didn't think that a school shooter could break the glass window right next to the door.

2:19:40 Needless to say, I prefer the new strategy better than cowering like slaves in the corner. I like the concept of armed resistance in schools very much. Live in the mac and cheese life. Hopefully soon to be producer. You are always a producer when you contribute. You're just not an executive producer. All right, no worries. You'll hook us up when appropriate. Okay, last one from Keegan. Adam. I really enjoyed your analysis of the anti-bullying epidemic. I was talking to my dad about the issue of taunting, him being a sports fan. He told me that the Ohio State Buckeyes

2:20:16 Frequently get the taunting penalty pulled on them. Apparently they have an O for Ohio printed on the underside of their gloves that they flash after scoring touchdowns. They are prohibited from flashing this at the crowd as it arouses their fans and in turn hurts the other football team's feelings. This guy is great. Okay. After thinking more on this, I realized that my school is just as bad as their see something, say something bully policy. I go to the elitist white school, Matawan, in the right wing hillbilly capital of the Communist Republic of Michigan, Kalamazoo. Wow, this guy's good.

2:20:59 I realize that you two are completely correct about it being a slave training camp, and they've only upped the gun, not literally, because guns are bad when the slaves have them. My French teacher, for example, has locked her door every day since Columbine, which makes bathroom breaks a bitch, especially when one is late for class after the giant voice system has given us a FINAL WARNING. The teachers are also required to wear name tags and drills are very frequent. In order to strike fear into our slaves, we are ordered to turn the lights off, crawl into the corner of the room on the same side of the door so that there are no peepers through the window of the door. We then crouch down, or as we refer to it, bend over and shut up for 15 minutes.

2:21:44 My English teacher tells of a story when he was first teaching. The SWAT team came to perform a safety drill at the school, and teachers were informed not to open their doors or speak at all. Ten minutes went by, and assuming the drill was finished, he heard a knock at the door, and proceeded to open it. When he did, the stage shooter proceeded to shoot him with a blank in front of the class. Oh, God! This'll show you, you douche! Wow. But this is nothing compared to the slave food lunches that we are served. Everyday nachos are served. They are essentially stale tortillas with cheap as wet cigarette butts, horse meat, and cheap cheddar melted on the top.

2:22:28 I have suggested to the office many times they should be serving tuna a la King, but they haven't responded so I'm assuming it doesn't fit their budget. The staff seems to have taken this just as well as they took the No Agenda CDs I gave them. Love the show. Wish you two best of luck. Hookers and Blow from Keegan. Good work kids. I love this. Yeah, it's good stuff. But this would be a regular segment that we'll probably have for about six months before we run out of material. I mean, it just keeps going. It really does. It just keeps on going. Yeah, so we invite anybody out there who has one of these school experiences at any level, including college, that's so ludicrous that you can't... it's just that you're beside yourself. Send the letter, we'll read it.

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Mali Conflict, International Aid, Total Oil

A report from a producer at NATO HQ suggests that the conflict in Mali is primarily about protecting oil pipelines and interests for companies like Total. Despite a minimal weapons cache found, international donors have pledged over $4 billion in aid to the country.

mali· nato· total oil· foreign aid· european union

2:23:25 So was it not our economic hitman who told us, was it Malawi or Mali? Was he, did he say Malawi? It was the other one. Malawi or Mali? I think it was... Now I can't remember now. I can't remember either. But we've had our eye on Mali and what has happened in... It may have been Malawi. May have been. What has happened in front of our very eyes? And this actually came at the same time as the email. Actually, the economic hitman was in town recently. I didn't get in touch with him. I gotta send him an email today, I guess, to figure out where he is. Well, so this kind of fits in with an email that we got just briefly, one of our producers who was in Belgium. He said, in the morning, guys, I just want to let you know that today I sat in on a series of NATO presentations at NATO HQ for all the Chiefs of Defense staff. How cool is that?

2:24:14 That's very cool. Yeah without giving too much away. You are so absolutely spot-on with your pipeline theories It really is all about the pipes Also, you may be interested to know that I am that I had an I am awake moment the French gave a brief About Mali and one of the slides about the weapons arsenal they found in my remember we were listening to the stories about they invaded the capital and they found like a Dude with a hand grenade. That was it. That was the entire like all the terrorists and They found in Mali... The weapons arsenal they found in Mali consisted of a few boxes of rounds and 27 rocket launcher grenades. I said to the guy, sarcastically, that was scanning for illicit communication devices in the room, Oh my God, look at all those weapons! To which he replied with an open mouth, aghast, saying, Yes, that's really serious stuff!

2:25:05 People are such idiots. So of course Mali was all about total oil. That's why the French went in there, you know, because this is all about their, this is their oil turf. And what happens, and this just blew me away, international donors, including over almost two billion from the European Union, But international donors have pledged 4.22 billion dollars. So this is your money too, by the way. Everyone's in on this, but mainly the Europeans, the EU. The people have no jobs in the EU, but they're sending this money to Mali to help Mali recover from a conflict with Al-Qaeda linked Islamists exceeding the West African country's target. Because of terrorism,

2:25:58 They're sending your tax money, people in Euro land, to Mali. But not to help the Malians, but to give it to international companies to build stuff that will benefit private organizations. Mainly BP and Total Oil. The EU's executive commission, God knows who they are, will allocate 524 million euros to Mali. Large pledges by France, the United States, Britain, Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, the Islamic Development Bank and others, I gotta keep an eye on that one, and others, enabled the West African country to exceed its goal of raising 2 billion euros. Hey, do you think it'll be just like Haiti? Why don't you send them some cholera?

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Syria Conflict, Cyprus Loan, Cannibalism Video

The Syrian conflict is discussed in the context of a viral video showing a rebel fighter eating a soldier's heart, which is framed as a desperate attempt to gain media attention. Meanwhile, the IMF has approved a $1.3 billion loan for Cyprus following its banking crisis.

syria· cyprus· imf· rebels· propaganda

2:26:57 People seem to like that when you do that. That's really cool. And then, while we're on it, they're so desperate to get something going in Syria that now we have videos of the guy eating the guy's heart. Did you see that? This is new. Yeah, oh yeah. But it's a rebel, which is interesting. Cuts out the soldier's heart and eats it. This was obviously staged to get people into that, what I think was the second or third Indiana Jones movie where the guy pulls the heart out of the person? Is it a movie promotion? No, I don't think it's a movie promotion. Well maybe, it might be a movie about this sort of thing.

2:27:43 But I'm just saying that's what it's kind of a reminiscence. So, so, so, that's terrible. But it's also something that throughout history, warriors have, have been known to eat, eat their enemies to make them stronger. This is nothing new. I mean, it's just now we're all shocked by it, but it's nothing new. But it's just like, we're so desperate to get attention for the Syria deal, which nobody cares about because Angelina Jolie cut her tits off. Who cares? And the IMF the International Monetary Fund has okayed a 1.3 billion dollar loan for Cyprus good work good work everybody That's after they stole the money and then they get more money of course of course got a lot of feedback from from people on the on the war on 3d printers a lot of agreement and

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3D Printed Guns, Cody Wilson, The Liberator

The "Liberator" 3D-printed gun created by Cody Wilson is examined, including reports of the weapon exploding during tests in Finland. The hosts speculate on Wilson's background and accent, questioning if he is truly American-born or potentially from Australia or South Africa.

3d printing· cody wilson· the liberator· gun control· defense distributed

2:28:40 A lot of people saying, wow, you have no idea how huge these printers are for what we do. There's so many companies that are against this. This is a big lobby. But still, no one's really been able to tell me much about this, what's his name, Cody, Cody Wilson. Now, a few things that are interesting to note. And Sir Luke sent us this. So first of all, this Liberator is kind of a throwback to the FP-45 Liberator, which was a very cheap single-shot gun manufactured by the US, or for, by the US military during World War II. And the idea was, you know, you drop a whole bunch of these things so the guys could, you know, if they were behind enemy lines, they could pick one up. It was a .45 caliber single shot.

2:29:32 And you know the rain Accuracy range about three feet, but you could use it to go You know go up and kill a guy and then grab his gun So calling it the liberator and a lot of people picked up on this like oh hold on a second, but then in Finland They printed they took Cody Wilson's CAD files they printed the 3D liberator is a great video of it in the show notes 513.na show notes calm fire it thing explodes the bullet goes poop poop poop poop poop the thing it just it explodes the minute you they pulled the trigger yeah piece of crap and I have a feeling that that maybe just to kill said like a suicide gun

2:30:18 So here's something someone sent me a very interesting email this morning. Let me see who that was Michael producer Michael Adam, I'm listening to the Sunday May 12th. No agenda episode I honestly had never heard of 3d printing. I let alone that in conjunction with gun manufacturing I heard you discuss there not being any real info in the book of knowledge about Cody R Wilson outside of a bio supposedly about him a more American born blah blah blah so I went and Onto the video book of knowledge the YouTubes and found the 3d printed guns documentary. This is the click print gun Documentary which was done over I think a year and a half ago When I see it in watching it I picked up on what I to believe an accent So I closed my eyes and listened to Cody speak. I believe he is from Australia or somewhere in the UK and

2:31:13 I'm pretty good at detecting accents, even disguised ones. Like you always say, words matter, but what also matters to me is pronunciation. Take a little look at the documentary. I think it holds more clues as to where this gentleman is really from and about his backers' true intentions. I'd be willing to bet he is not American-born. And I listened... Do you want to listen to a little bit? I can... I think... I've only been in Texas for, you know, 14-15 months. And it sounds a little Texan, but wow does it sound- does he sound Australian once- I have to agree. Listen. Even the way he says sir. Did you hear that? Right off the bat. Sir's my warehouse. It's like Julian Assange. Which puts a whole nother connotation to it.

2:31:59 So this is my warehouse. God, that sounds British. Basically it's a space that we've been using since August. We have a 3D printer on site which means when you get a federal farms license your activity and the location are all tied together. Okay. I'm gonna disagree because he sounds enough like Elon Musk to make me think he's South African which would make a lot of sense because this is where these guns are gonna end up. Ooh, South Africa that could be true too. That could be true. Well so you're not really disagreeing you're saying it's just not Australia. Right. But I could pick up on South African I didn't really catch that let me listen. The license so I can't have the license and go do things somewhere else I have to have it at a location.

2:32:40 And this is the object, uh, Kinect printer that we've been using from the very beginning. Our very first low receiver is printed here. You know, hooked it up to an upper and fired it. So the project begins and no one will listen to you. And no one will listen to you. I don't think it's South African, John. I know South Africa- Well, it sounds a lot like Elon Musk and he's South African. South Africans not you know it's not yeah but it's more of a South Africans sing more because we have here at the market we have the happy vegans with their pastries and they're South African and this is not this okay well I'm just saying it may make more sense but it could be anything but it's not helping us still I mean always not from around here we can say well I'm crowdsourcing this in the chat room right now it's to continue for another 30 seconds

2:33:34 Okay, so this is a test. Oh by the way people in the chat room 513 dot na show notes calm isn't live until after the show is published Duh thing that printed lower with an ar-57 upper you fight just to be heard We break it. And then something changes and then you're hurt. We hypothesized a gun control future, right? Even when there weren't coming for us back then. You said that three or four months ago. That's right. Joe Biden, this is no country for old men. We really don't think it's a stunt, man. I think the state's now making it easier for us to prove this point. Whatever this permanent assault weapon ban is going to be. How's that national conversation going? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard. Whatever.

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Guantanamo Bay Costs, Camp 7 Renovations

CNN reports on the high cost of maintaining prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, estimated at $900,000 per prisoner annually. Despite promises to close the facility, the military is requesting $50 million for renovations to the secretive Camp 7.

guantanamo bay· gitmo· camp 7· military spending· cnn

2:34:26 We'll figure it out eventually. I don't know what he's up to. The gun can't fire once, the little pistol is useless. It's certainly weird that there's no real bio on him. Law student. Yeah. So I found a couple of interesting things. Aaron Burnett had a little report on Gitmo and I just want to play this because this is a As you recall, our president said the first thing he was going to do when he became president was shut down Gitmo. And you'd think with the rationale of what it costs, do you have any idea, what does it cost to keep a prisoner in a Texas jail, for example? You know? Yeah, well I saw this report so I won't give it away, but in a Texas jail I think it's about $75,000 a year. That's high. Most jails are about $40,000.

2:35:18 We're Texas, man. We do things big here. So let's play this cost to get mo clip. Continue to believe that we've got to close Guantanamo. It costs taxpayers about $25,000 a year to keep someone in federal prison. At a supermax high security prison where convicted terrorists are held, the tab can top $60,000. Sounds expensive until you compare it to what it costs here at Guantanamo Bay. It costs $930,000. $100,000 per prisoner per year to hold detainees. So each man in Gitmo is equal to the cost of operating three months of White House tours. Four Guantanamo detainees would pay for training one new Air Force pilot.

2:36:01 CNN got exclusive access inside the cell blocks of camps 5 and 6. But what we don't see here is camp 7, the ultra-secretive compound where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other high-value detainees are being kept. It's totally off limits to the media. But it may hold the clue to what the Obama administration really has planned for Guantanamo Bay. Officials won't divulge details on potential renovations to Camp 7. I'll simply say that there is a need. I mean, the facilities are in need of upgrade and replacement. The military is asking for $50 million to build a new Camp 7. Does that suggest that this isn't closing any time soon? We have to always plan to conduct that mission.

2:36:48 Anyway, so they're building building the place up Most of the cost, it turns out, is because we have bad relations with Cuba, because they can just outsource. Apparently you have to ship the food in there from the United States. Well, you know what we have there? We have, there's McDonald's, Domino's, there's a shopping mall. I have to remind you, you don't see this, but Guantanamo Bay is paradise. If you get shipped off there to go work, it's great. The weather's nice. You got, you know, you got a Dillard's. I mean, everything's there. We need to get some photos of the prison, because you're not going to get those in the town. I have photos of the green zone, it's the same thing. Big Ass Blonde will send it to us. She just got back from Gitmo, or she's on her way back. She tried to get us to visit the Big Ass Blonde from San Antonio. Oh, the Big Ass Blonde. Actually, I'd love to visit. I'd like to go to Cuba. I'd like to visit with her.

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Al Sharpton, Aviation Metaphors

Al Sharpton is featured in a brief clip using the phrase "over jumping the runway" in relation to the IRS scandal. The hosts mock his use of technical aviation terms in a political context.

al sharpton· msnbc· irs· aviation· metaphors

2:37:45 I got a new Sharpton idiotic comment. Oh fantastic. Put it in our segment in our melody medley. Play it? Yeah hit it. Could this ultimately end up backfiring on the Republicans? Are they over jumping the runway here? Well, he's clued in. What is over jumping the runway? It's a technical term that happens when you're flying. Sometimes, like, I'm going to put her on a land here. Oh, I over jumped the runway. Oh, damn it. I hate it when that happens. But he knows. Was this in relation to any of these scams? Was this in relation to the IRS scandals? Yeah. So he knows he's already been clued in. Yeah, I'm sure. Dr. Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Dubai Tourism, Sharia Law, Qantas Partnership

Australian media reports highlight the dangers for tourists in Dubai, specifically regarding strict Sharia law. Cases of women being jailed after reporting rape and couples being arrested for kissing in public are cited as warnings against the city's "paradise" image.

dubai· uae· sharia law· qantas· tourism

2:38:36 Good to be here, bro. Just had to play it. Just had to. Once in a while, you just gotta play that thing. So the Australians have got something going on with Dubai. there apparently has been a deal done with Qantas and Emirates Air to start making Dubai, which is still a long haul from Australia, the destination if you want to go on vacation and now it turns out that you don't really want to go there, especially if you're a woman. And you can just play the opening clip which is Dubai 1 and then I'll play clip 2. The dark side of Dubai and the United Arab Emirates

2:39:19 It promotes itself as a desert paradise and is set to become a mecca for Aussie travellers. But don't be deceived by the apparent tolerance of Western ways because fall foul of Sharia law and you're in a whole world of trouble. Just like Australian Alicia Ghaly, jailed because she was raped. This special investigation from Roscoe Tart. Anyway, it goes on it with this long story about this poor woman who worked at the W Hotel And she was raped by a bunch of employees gang raped actually really and it was all men and she She was told not to go to the police because they'll throw her in jail. That's somebody else advised Yeah, no, don't worry about go to the police. You went to the police. You got eight years in jail and Wow, I've been to Dubai on vacation. It was the biggest mistake ever. Yeah

2:40:10 Yeah, it's a very sketchy place. You can play Dubai clip and it's just another, to show you what an extreme it is, this clip has a... With four male friends, Charlotte came here for a late night snack after an evening out. Earlier she'd given Eamon, a fellow Londoner, a friendly kiss on the cheek to say hello. Code blue! They finished their meal, they paid and left, only to be stopped by the police. There is a yeah there and then on the spot. What did they accuse you of they didn't say anything at first? They didn't say anything We got driven to Jabal Ali police station And they called us in one by one and then he was just asking me like what I'd been doing that evening So I said, you know, just been out like got some food and

2:40:57 He was like, were you kissing him? And I was like, no. And he's like, did you kiss him? And I was like, well we would have kissed on the cheeks to say hi, but apparently as soon as I said we kissed on the cheeks, that was it. It was like, kissing on the cheek is illegal. Charlotte spent 23 days behind bars before being deported. Hold on, I gotta put some serious music behind us for this. Alright. So I, these are good stories and I'm not sure who's behind them or why because you'd think they'd be promoting the Qantas connection but I think it's probably the Indonesians because the place that they want to send the Australians is Bali of course. Right. So I suspect there's some foul play behind these reports but these reports are probably true and I want to remind, I think I may have told you this before, I took an Emirates flight once

2:41:50 And it's always rated by an airline magazine as the greatest airline, and it's not. It's one of the good airlines, but it's not the greatest. The greatest airlines are either Cathay Pacific or Singapore, those guys. But what they do is you get on the plane and they walk down the aisle with the magazine and the And the page that says, nominate your favorite carrier. And they literally make you sign the document with their name on the top. Do you want good service on this flight? I just thought that was hilarious. Wasn't Bali where a whole bunch of Australians were killed in a bomb? Yeah, Muslim extremist group. So that's what it was all about, huh? That was promotion for Dubai.

2:42:36 Yeah, maybe. Maybe some battle going on between Dubai and these other destinations. But Dubai, if I was a woman, I probably wouldn't go there. It's not... I found it to be... This is back in the money days. And I stayed at the Burj Al Arab. And everything was so perfect, it was boring. It was boring and it's nowhere to go and women are not welcome. The whole place is just icky. School that they pick you up in a in a Rolls Royce at the airport that was cool. Yeah, no it's got it So it's a lot of money. I mean the whole yeah, and by is gold-plated I mean I'd say the holiday in I didn't say the holiday in but I went visited it to meet for a meeting and The holiday in it was like what this is a holiday. Yeah, everything was gold What do you think about the Rubicon music is that working for us? No? I don't like it. I don't either at least we tried I

2:43:34 Yeah, it's a little too... we're not doing a Rubicon-like show, we're kind of light. We have to mock the main news guys who are putting music behind their chit-chat. Yeah, I was trying but it wasn't funny, it was just as boring as the main guys. As Dubai! Yeah, yeah. Alright, well that's all I got. Well, Indonesia is interesting. Because I think that we've also been droning in Indonesia, which no one is talking about. Tuna, there's a lot of stuff. I mean, did you so you know that Pakistan had an election you do you were you aware of this? I mean, I'm sure you were too busy thinking about Angelina Jolie. So Pakistan had

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Pakistan Elections, Corruption, Bin Laden Burial

While the White House praised Pakistan's recent elections as transparent, local reports suggest widespread corruption, ballot stuffing, and voter intimidation. Additionally, newly released emails suggest that no US sailors actually witnessed the burial of Osama bin Laden at sea.

pakistan· elections· imran khan· osama bin laden· burial at sea

2:44:17 had an election, the president comes out with a statement, I congratulate the people of Pakistan on the successful completion of yesterday's parliamentary elections. The United States stands with all Pakistanis in welcoming this historic, peaceful, transparent transfer of civilian power, which is a significant milestone in Pakistan's democratic process. By conducting competitive campaigns, freely exercising your democratic rights and perspective, Persevering during imitimina? Violent extremists, you have a firm commitment. We have people who live in Pakistan, who from time to time, you know, our producer who tried to get a shot of the compound before they tore it down, of the Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad. Have we heard from him recently? Yes, he sends me an email. I am so depressed right now. Bear in mind what the president just said. Great work, lovely, transparent. Everything is great there in Pakistan.

2:45:16 Our producer says, I'm so depressed right now. It was election day yesterday in Pakistan. The popular vote should have gone to Imran Khan. But on election day there was rampant corruption. Some examples are armed people walking into polling stations and shooting into the air. When everyone ran away, they filled in ballot papers and stuffed the box. In certain polling stations, the doors were locked to stop people from entering the building. In certain areas, there was a 100% voter turnout. And all of those magical 100% voter turnout stations went to the government, the incumbents. There were people stationed at polling stations to guide people in the voting process, meaning they would take their ballot, stamp the right candidate, and put in the ballot for them into the box.

2:46:02 Videos on the internet showing whole boxes of ballots being thrown out or burned. Another video showing women voters so mad at the police and army rangers assigned to stop corruption who were not doing anything, they took off their jewelry and presented it to the cops and army to shame them and say, here you should wear these and stay home. And he put a link into... which I put in the show notes, because this is kind of the first time that we have video of all this taking place in Pakistan. And I just wanted to point out that these sham elections and our president is like, hey, good work, great, transparent, everything's fantastic. United States and Pakistan have a long history of working together on mutual interests, like killing people with drones.

2:46:45 my administration looks forward to continue our cooperation with the Pakistani government as I could not be further from the truth it was not a not a transparent election it was a scam oh that's being reported on all the news shows and my favorite in I don't know if you caught this in all of these emails that are now being released by the most transparent government in the history of mankind Apparently the emails now show that not a single US sailor witnessed bin Laden's secret burial at sea. There are no photos, no one can find them, and I thought people in Congress had seen them, but now it turns out that they can't, the Pentagon can't even find pictures or any of the DNA testing materials. How nuts is that?

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Gadsden Flag Removal, Show Sign-off

The Gadsden "Don't Tread on Me" flag is removed from a New York military armory after being labeled as racist by city officials. The program concludes with a final plea for listener support and a reminder of the "Value for Value" model.

gadsden flag· new rochelle· veterans· racism· outro

2:47:40 The guy's shaved his beard, got a new haircut, he's working in one of the offices there in DC. But it's in the emails! No one cares. No, no one cares. Yeah, the narrative works. On the public. It does. And following up on our Gadsden flag, the Don't Tread On Me, this is being removed from the New York military armory. The flag? What? Yeah. It's an important historic flag. No, no, it's racist now. What? Yeah. It's racist. Yeah, yeah, it's racist. Official US name, group of New York veterans, the city of New Rochelle, New York has removed the Gadsden Don't Tread on Me flag from the new Rochelle Armory after the city council refused to let a veterans organization display the flag. United Veterans Memorial and Patriotic Association, oh, call yourself a patriot. Can't be doing that. Big mistake.

2:48:42 It's fighting the decision, uh, let's see... pa-pa-pa-paaa... Well, they're removing it. Yeah, it's... You can't do it, it's racist. It's like the Union Jack. It's racist, you're racist. Because, you know, it's like racist towards... I don't know. Snakes? Uh, non-rattlesnakes? Snakes, snakes. I don't know, it's snakes. It's really, it's really quite... quite sad where we are. It's disturbing. Alright. Uh, well, the only thing you have to remember... You know.

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